The Megyn Kelly Show - Bryan Kohberger's Explosive Sentencing： Roommates Speak Out, Families Give Victim Statements, with Howard Blum, Phil Holloway, and Matt Murphy

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00:00:46.340 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:51.920 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, starting today at a special time.

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00:03:44.420 Guys, thanks so much for being here.

00:03:46.020 So we're awaiting the start of this.

00:03:48.300 We've been watching the families file in all morning,

00:03:50.440 and you can only imagine what a heavy day this is

00:03:54.380 for the poor family members who now already know

00:03:57.440 what Brian Kohlberger's fate is going to be,

00:03:59.600 but probably feel, Howard, like they owe it to their loved ones

00:04:04.920 to be their voice today.

00:04:07.620 I mean, they do feel a sense of duty.

00:04:10.380 This is their last public chance to share how they're feeling,

00:04:15.480 to tell the world how they feel about even this plea agreement,

00:04:20.240 and they're going to take advantage of it.

00:04:22.200 I know I've talked with one of the family members,

00:04:24.240 and they've put a lot of time and a lot of energy

00:04:26.760 into crafting their statements.

00:04:28.340 Yes, and one of the surprises I had this morning,

00:04:33.000 sticking with you on this, Howard,

00:04:34.200 is that Steve Gonsalves is there, Kaylee's dad,

00:04:38.240 and he had suggested earlier on he was not going to go.

00:04:42.580 And I don't know whether he's planning on speaking.

00:04:44.340 I think that his other daughter is going to speak,

00:04:47.440 but he did show up today, and he's sort of, in a way,

00:04:50.520 been the most visible family member on this thing from the start.

00:04:53.460 Well, I know his family contacted me about a week ago,

00:04:59.120 and we've had some disagreements over the course of this whole thing,

00:05:01.980 but now they just want to focus on the facts,

00:05:05.100 and they're trying to find out, and this is extremely poignant,

00:05:08.620 is that they're asking, how many times was Kaylee stabbed?

00:05:12.180 They want to know that.

00:05:13.760 They have a number 54, and they want to say something that's accurate,

00:05:18.260 and they can't get any information from the coroner.

00:05:21.300 And that's sort of the predicament they're in,

00:05:23.500 and that's what this settlement deal will keep them in this predicament.

00:05:28.240 They won't get the answers they will need,

00:05:30.080 not even to basic questions as to how many times was my daughter stabbed.

00:05:34.820 How can they not know that?

00:05:36.880 Why is that not released from the coroner?

00:05:40.240 The coroner will not tell them that.

00:05:42.280 They're calling me to try to find that out.

00:05:44.800 That's how desperate they are.

00:05:47.100 And your heart goes out to them.

00:05:49.660 I mean, at one point, Steve Gonsalves said early on,

00:05:53.660 you send your daughter off to college,

00:05:55.480 and she comes back to you in a box.

00:05:58.560 And how do you live with this?

00:06:00.580 This poor man, Phil, he and the other family member,

00:06:03.220 we understand Ethan Chapin's parents will not be there.

00:06:06.500 They don't see any point.

00:06:08.540 The mother is like the most pulled-together person

00:06:11.860 you've ever seen in the wake of a tragedy.

00:06:14.520 I was watching her on this new documentary

00:06:17.720 that just hit Amazon Prime on the Idaho 4,

00:06:21.180 and she's very, I mean, she's remarkably composed.

00:06:24.260 My hat goes off to her, but she was basically saying,

00:06:27.640 we don't see the point.

00:06:28.660 I think the rest of the family members will be there and will speak.

00:06:31.100 And just what a huge responsibility they must feel, right?

00:06:35.660 Because it's like the victims can't speak,

00:06:38.100 and this prosecutor has failed to speak for them.

00:06:42.200 You know, Megan, I've been very critical of how,

00:06:47.740 not necessarily how the prosecution has handled

00:06:49.740 their case presentation or how they've handled court,

00:06:53.240 but I've been critical and I remain critical

00:06:55.400 as to how they have dealt with these families.

00:06:59.320 You know, the issue of how many times someone was stabbed,

00:07:03.540 I mean, that should have been information provided

00:07:06.060 to the family long ago.

00:07:08.680 They should not have to be begging the coroner

00:07:11.720 to get it right now, here right on the eve of sentencing.

00:07:14.960 The prosecution should have shared

00:07:17.060 as much as they possibly could with them previously,

00:07:21.060 and certainly now that the gag order has been lifted.

00:07:24.020 The family should not be treated this way.

00:07:25.880 And in fact, I am of the belief

00:07:28.460 that we should not have had this plea deal

00:07:31.340 to take the death penalty off the table.

00:07:34.700 They're starting, so we don't want to miss that.

00:07:36.360 Let's dip in.

00:07:37.300 Yep.

00:07:37.440 Yep.

00:07:37.500 Yep.

00:07:37.520 Yep.

00:07:37.620 Yep.

00:07:51.060 Mr. Herwitt, Mr. Nye, and Ms. Allen.

00:07:56.220 This is the time set for sentencing in this case.

00:08:04.020 The defendant previously entered a plea of guilty

00:08:07.360 to four counts of first-degree murder

00:08:09.340 and one count of felony burglary.

00:08:12.140 In exchange, the party stipulated

00:08:15.440 to recommend a sentence consisting of

00:08:19.480 on burglary, 10 years fixed.

00:08:22.000 On each of the four counts,

00:08:23.680 first-degree murder, life fixed.

00:08:29.480 The parties waived a pre-sentence investigation.

00:08:33.720 To my understanding,

00:08:35.280 neither party submitted a sentencing memorandum

00:08:37.560 or other materials for the court.

00:08:39.600 The court is familiar with the file

00:08:41.840 and the evidence submitted previously.

00:08:45.440 by the parties

00:08:46.860 as it has reviewed them throughout the case

00:08:49.460 and in anticipation of trial.

00:08:51.820 Is there any legal cause

00:08:53.560 why a sentence should not be imposed at this time?

00:08:59.800 No, Your Honor.

00:09:05.880 Does the state,

00:09:07.120 before impact statements and arguments,

00:09:10.440 wish to present evidence today?

00:09:13.120 Your Honor,

00:09:13.680 the state does not intend to present evidence

00:09:15.720 in a documentary

00:09:17.420 since we have provided the court

00:09:19.540 through the clerk

00:09:20.220 with photographs

00:09:21.580 that we would like to use

00:09:22.840 during the course of our sentencing argument.

00:09:24.640 Sure.

00:09:25.320 All right.

00:09:25.560 Thank you.

00:09:26.320 But no testimony

00:09:27.760 other than impact statements?

00:09:29.300 That's correct, Your Honor.

00:09:30.440 All right.

00:09:30.760 So with that,

00:09:31.520 let's start with impact statements.

00:09:34.340 Ms. Jennings will be introducing...

00:09:37.760 In my understanding,

00:09:38.660 just so I'm clear,

00:09:39.480 I indicated through the trial court administrator

00:09:41.980 that we need to see

00:09:44.340 if any of the victims

00:09:51.120 wish to have the camera

00:09:53.260 not running in audio only.

00:09:56.260 And my understanding is

00:09:57.320 all of them indicated

00:09:58.820 they are fine with the video.

00:10:00.420 Is that correct?

00:10:02.280 Yes, Your Honor.

00:10:03.020 That's correct.

00:10:03.580 All right.

00:10:03.760 Very well.

00:10:05.080 Go ahead.

00:10:06.900 Your Honor,

00:10:08.080 the first...

00:10:09.040 And we're taking these in the order,

00:10:11.420 victim impact statements,

00:10:12.520 in the order

00:10:12.980 that the charges were listed

00:10:14.660 in the indictment.

00:10:16.420 The first charge being burglary.

00:10:19.120 So we will have

00:10:21.360 Bethany Funko's statement

00:10:23.140 and she has asked

00:10:24.640 that her friend,

00:10:25.500 Emily Allant,

00:10:26.420 read that statement.

00:10:27.560 All right.

00:10:27.880 Any objection to that?

00:10:29.260 No objection.

00:10:29.800 All right.

00:10:30.020 Very well.

00:10:30.360 Thank you.

00:10:30.420 Thank you.

00:10:30.680 Thank you.

00:10:30.780 Thank you.

00:10:34.220 Thank you,

00:10:38.900 Your Honor.

00:10:41.580 I'll be speaking

00:10:42.520 on behalf of Bethany

00:10:43.740 and so,

00:10:44.880 yeah,

00:10:45.140 here it reads.

00:10:47.020 My name is Bethany Funk

00:10:48.600 and I was roommates

00:10:49.920 with Maddie,

00:10:50.720 Kaylee,

00:10:51.260 Zanna,

00:10:51.640 and Ethan.

00:10:52.940 I not only lost

00:10:54.040 some of my best friends

00:10:54.980 but I also lost a sister.

00:10:58.900 Never in a million years

00:11:00.260 would I have

00:11:01.160 would I have thought

00:11:06.360 that something like this

00:11:07.700 would have happened

00:11:08.220 to my closest friends.

00:11:09.940 I thought that we were

00:11:10.800 going to wake up

00:11:11.620 and go upstairs,

00:11:13.040 see them,

00:11:13.580 and tell them

00:11:14.100 how they had scared us

00:11:15.700 and that

00:11:16.140 they were going

00:11:18.140 to tease us

00:11:18.840 about how

00:11:19.480 we are constantly

00:11:20.960 scaredy cats.

00:11:23.100 I make jokes about

00:11:24.340 it as we would go

00:11:25.580 to Taco Bell

00:11:26.160 like always

00:11:26.800 but sadly

00:11:28.160 that is not what happened

00:11:29.240 and what turned out

00:11:30.160 to be my worst nightmare.

00:11:32.680 When I first woke up

00:11:33.740 that morning

00:11:34.180 I had no idea

00:11:35.580 what happened.

00:11:36.680 I woke up around 7

00:11:37.620 with a terrible toothache

00:11:38.780 so I called my dad

00:11:40.260 who is a dentist

00:11:41.140 and he asked

00:11:42.900 what I should do.

00:11:45.100 He told me

00:11:45.800 to take Advil

00:11:46.520 so I did

00:11:47.120 and I went back to sleep.

00:11:48.660 I was still out of it

00:11:50.080 and still didn't know

00:11:51.000 what happened.

00:11:52.140 If I had known

00:11:53.040 I of course

00:11:53.760 would have called

00:11:54.220 911 right away.

00:11:55.700 I still carry

00:11:56.540 so much regret

00:11:57.280 and guilt

00:11:57.820 for not knowing

00:11:58.900 what had happened

00:11:59.640 and not calling

00:12:00.900 right away

00:12:01.420 even though

00:12:02.520 I understand

00:12:03.120 it wouldn't

00:12:03.880 have changed anything

00:12:04.900 not even

00:12:05.900 if the paramedics

00:12:06.760 had been right

00:12:07.280 outside the door.

00:12:13.860 I was so frantic

00:12:15.040 that morning

00:12:15.540 and scared to death

00:12:16.420 not knowing

00:12:17.000 what had happened

00:12:17.720 and when I made

00:12:21.460 the 911 call

00:12:22.640 I couldn't even

00:12:23.360 get out the words

00:12:24.960 and from then on

00:12:27.200 I don't remember

00:12:27.680 a thing.

00:12:28.820 It was like

00:12:29.200 my brain wiped

00:12:29.860 that whole memory.

00:12:33.220 That was the worst

00:12:34.140 day of my life

00:12:35.000 and I know

00:12:36.480 it always will be.

00:12:45.460 While I was still

00:12:46.280 in shock

00:12:46.740 trying to process

00:12:47.620 the fact that

00:12:48.160 my friends

00:12:48.480 were truly gone

00:12:49.160 I had been

00:12:50.740 attacked by the public

00:12:51.920 I was grieving

00:12:53.780 numb

00:12:54.480 and unsure

00:12:55.580 of what had happened

00:12:56.360 was even real

00:12:57.800 and at the same time

00:12:59.060 I was getting flooded

00:13:00.960 with death threats

00:13:01.780 and hateful messages

00:13:03.500 from people

00:13:04.180 who did not know me

00:13:06.060 at all

00:13:06.380 or know the dynamic

00:13:07.240 of our friendship.

00:13:09.420 Social media

00:13:09.920 made it so much worse

00:13:11.000 and strangers

00:13:11.700 made up stories

00:13:12.560 to entertain themselves.

00:13:14.620 The media harassed

00:13:15.540 not just me

00:13:16.040 but also my family.

00:13:17.700 People showed up

00:13:18.300 at our house

00:13:18.920 they called my phone

00:13:20.980 my parents' phones

00:13:21.940 other family members' phones

00:13:23.900 and we were chased

00:13:24.920 while I was still

00:13:26.460 trying to survive

00:13:27.100 emotionally

00:13:27.540 and grieve

00:13:27.940 the loss of my friends.

00:13:29.960 I hated

00:13:30.680 and still hate

00:13:31.440 that they are gone

00:13:32.040 but for some reason

00:13:32.840 I am still here

00:13:34.360 and I got to live.

00:13:35.980 I still think about

00:13:36.820 this every day.

00:13:37.860 Why me?

00:13:39.340 Why did I get to live

00:13:40.740 and not them?

00:13:42.860 For the longest time

00:13:43.980 I could not even

00:13:44.760 look at their families

00:13:45.640 without feeling sick

00:13:46.480 with guilt.

00:13:48.920 I did not know

00:13:49.760 what to say

00:13:50.360 or what to do.

00:13:51.140 I was terrified

00:13:51.760 that my presence

00:13:52.580 just made their pain worse

00:13:53.960 and I was still here

00:13:55.360 when their kid

00:13:56.100 their siblings

00:13:57.420 and their friends

00:13:58.120 their loved ones

00:13:59.400 should have been here instead.

00:14:01.860 After everything happened

00:14:02.960 I was afraid

00:14:03.500 to go into my own backyard

00:14:04.740 or alone in my house.

00:14:07.460 I was scared

00:14:08.280 that the person

00:14:08.840 who did this

00:14:09.600 would come for me next.

00:14:12.640 I was always scared

00:14:13.820 that the media

00:14:14.360 would try to catch me

00:14:15.320 at any moment

00:14:15.920 of any day

00:14:16.920 even when I was

00:14:18.560 just walking

00:14:18.960 around my house.

00:14:20.400 I made my parents

00:14:21.040 close all the blinds

00:14:22.000 during the day

00:14:22.560 so no one could see me

00:14:24.500 even in the slightest chance.

00:14:26.380 I barely left the house

00:14:27.320 and when I did

00:14:27.980 I made sure

00:14:28.620 I was never alone.

00:14:33.660 I slept in my parents' room

00:14:35.060 for almost a year.

00:14:36.800 I made them double lock

00:14:38.100 every door

00:14:38.660 set an alarm

00:14:39.820 and still check

00:14:42.020 everywhere in the room

00:14:42.940 just in case

00:14:44.120 someone was hiding

00:14:44.880 and I still check

00:14:45.760 my room every night.

00:14:47.480 before

00:14:47.920 and I double lock it.

00:14:50.000 I have not slept

00:14:50.960 through a single night

00:14:51.760 since this happened.

00:14:53.060 I constantly wake up

00:14:54.080 in panics

00:14:54.640 terrified.

00:14:56.320 Someone is breaking in

00:14:57.480 or someone is here

00:14:58.540 to hurt me

00:14:59.140 or I'm about to lose

00:15:00.340 someone else

00:15:00.820 that I love.

00:15:02.640 The fear never really leaves.

00:15:07.780 For a long time

00:15:08.840 I could barely get out of bed

00:15:09.980 but one day

00:15:10.780 I realized

00:15:11.280 I have to live for them.

00:15:13.420 They did not get the chance

00:15:14.560 to keep living

00:15:15.180 but I do

00:15:16.800 and I will not

00:15:17.300 take that for granted

00:15:18.000 so now every day

00:15:19.060 I remind myself

00:15:19.920 to live for them

00:15:21.100 and everything I do

00:15:22.060 I do

00:15:23.660 it with them in mind.

00:15:26.160 I am still scared

00:15:27.000 to go out in public

00:15:27.780 but I force myself

00:15:28.660 to do things

00:15:29.220 because I know

00:15:30.460 that they would want me

00:15:31.180 to keep living

00:15:31.860 my life to the fullest.

00:15:33.260 I am beyond blessed

00:15:35.660 to still be here

00:15:36.440 and I refused

00:15:37.500 to take that for granted

00:15:38.380 when they did not

00:15:39.820 get a chance.

00:15:43.060 Our house

00:15:43.620 was not just a house

00:15:44.460 it was a home

00:15:45.140 it was where we laughed

00:15:46.520 till we couldn't breathe

00:15:47.540 make meals

00:15:48.980 did crafts

00:15:49.660 binge watch reality shows

00:15:51.260 played games

00:15:51.960 and spent lazy days

00:15:53.180 on the couch.

00:15:54.860 It was movie nights

00:15:55.540 wine nights

00:15:56.120 morning debriefs

00:15:56.920 pranks

00:15:57.180 hot chocolate

00:15:57.740 cookies and warmth.

00:15:59.520 I will cherish

00:15:59.980 those memories forever

00:16:00.980 and I will not let

00:16:01.840 what happened

00:16:02.340 erase how special

00:16:03.980 our home was

00:16:04.720 or how much

00:16:05.700 those memories

00:16:06.240 meant to me.

00:16:08.740 Now I would like

00:16:09.520 to share some bits

00:16:10.260 and pieces

00:16:10.700 of who they were

00:16:11.560 as people

00:16:13.740 and some of the

00:16:14.800 memories that we shared.

00:16:16.560 One of my favorite

00:16:17.500 memories was Halloween

00:16:18.460 and we all went

00:16:19.300 to Sigma Chi

00:16:19.980 but instead of partying

00:16:21.980 we just sat in an apartment

00:16:23.140 talking and laughing

00:16:24.380 all night long.

00:16:26.080 I do not think

00:16:26.960 I've ever laughed

00:16:27.500 that hard in my life.

00:16:29.140 We did not care

00:16:30.020 about the party

00:16:30.560 we were just happy

00:16:31.220 to be with each other.

00:16:33.380 Zanna was one

00:16:34.000 in a million.

00:16:36.660 She was the life

00:16:37.560 of the party.

00:16:52.240 But she was also

00:16:53.160 the kindest

00:16:53.820 and funniest person

00:16:54.740 I knew.

00:16:56.680 Everyone loved her

00:16:57.640 because she made

00:16:58.660 everyone feel so loved.

00:17:00.560 She was just someone

00:17:03.540 you always wanted

00:17:04.220 to be around

00:17:04.840 no matter the circumstance.

00:17:07.080 One of my favorite

00:17:07.880 days with Zanna

00:17:08.560 was when she laid

00:17:09.740 on the couch

00:17:10.260 when we laid

00:17:11.060 on the couch together

00:17:11.780 all day

00:17:12.160 watching movies

00:17:12.800 and snacking.

00:17:14.680 When she,

00:17:15.540 Maddie and I

00:17:16.040 would go and get

00:17:16.620 margarita chips

00:17:17.280 and salsa

00:17:17.780 she would also

00:17:19.060 light up a room

00:17:19.700 with her presence alone.

00:17:22.560 Kaylee had the most

00:17:23.460 beautiful radiant smile

00:17:24.660 and she was so kind

00:17:26.480 but also one of the

00:17:27.840 funniest people

00:17:28.400 I've ever known.

00:17:29.960 She loved playing

00:17:30.940 little pranks.

00:17:33.340 She always had us

00:17:34.440 laughing so hard

00:17:35.180 that we could not breathe.

00:17:36.760 She was so full

00:17:37.480 of energy and life.

00:17:40.120 I really believed

00:17:41.060 that she could have

00:17:41.640 ruled the world

00:17:42.180 if she wanted to

00:17:43.000 and she would have

00:17:43.600 been America's

00:17:44.220 sweetheart.

00:17:46.820 Ethan was the sweetest

00:17:47.760 most genuine guy.

00:17:49.740 He was always smiling

00:17:50.960 and always making

00:17:52.220 other people smile too.

00:17:54.180 Ethan was the kind

00:17:54.920 of person you wanted

00:17:55.860 around.

00:17:57.560 He was so kind

00:17:58.760 and easy to talk to

00:17:59.760 and just so fun

00:18:01.060 and the way he cared

00:18:02.540 for Xana was truly

00:18:03.360 something to admire

00:18:04.240 and really was proof

00:18:06.920 that storybook love

00:18:08.120 and true romances

00:18:09.760 really do exist.

00:18:12.480 I was not only,

00:18:13.640 it was not only obvious

00:18:14.620 to me but everyone

00:18:15.520 that was around

00:18:16.180 Ethan and Xana

00:18:17.000 that they were

00:18:17.480 absolute soulmates.

00:18:21.520 Maddie was not only

00:18:22.620 one of my best friends

00:18:23.440 but she was the older

00:18:24.380 sister I would have

00:18:25.940 always wanted.

00:18:27.920 There was no one

00:18:28.880 I looked up to

00:18:30.020 or admired more

00:18:32.120 than Maddie.

00:18:33.880 She was truly

00:18:34.780 a ray of sunshine

00:18:35.480 and everyone

00:18:36.460 was drawn to her.

00:18:38.180 She was so kind,

00:18:39.220 loving, funny,

00:18:40.400 fun, and passionate.

00:18:43.660 She had the sweetest soul

00:18:45.020 and wanted nothing

00:18:45.760 but the best for everyone

00:18:46.920 and to love

00:18:49.140 and show love

00:18:49.660 to everyone.

00:18:50.860 She took me

00:18:51.400 under her wing

00:18:52.020 and always made me

00:18:52.820 feel so safe

00:18:53.560 and included

00:18:54.120 and above all

00:18:55.740 loved and valued.

00:18:58.600 She never failed

00:18:59.540 to make me laugh

00:19:00.200 or put a smile

00:19:00.820 on my face.

00:19:02.180 Still to this day

00:19:03.040 I am beyond grateful

00:19:03.860 that she chose me

00:19:04.640 to be her sorority little

00:19:05.740 and I thank God

00:19:06.640 every day

00:19:07.160 that I not only

00:19:08.200 got to know her

00:19:09.700 but had her

00:19:11.000 as one of my best friends.

00:19:13.080 Honestly,

00:19:13.560 I cannot pinpoint

00:19:14.200 one favorite memory

00:19:15.240 with Maddie

00:19:15.680 because I have so many

00:19:16.740 and this would be

00:19:17.400 a very long read

00:19:18.140 if I did.

00:19:18.600 But if some little

00:19:21.440 memories with her

00:19:22.240 that I cherish

00:19:22.880 is when the two of us

00:19:23.980 made a nice dinner

00:19:24.740 and split some wine

00:19:25.720 or when we would

00:19:26.600 binge watch Jersey Shore

00:19:27.700 or Summer House.

00:19:30.220 When we came up

00:19:31.140 with a whole dance routine

00:19:32.060 on Halloween

00:19:32.600 and danced

00:19:33.200 and sang all night

00:19:34.020 like no one was watching.

00:19:36.380 All the late night walks

00:19:37.640 home from going out

00:19:39.340 and just little shopping trips

00:19:40.740 and so much more.

00:19:43.040 I am beyond blessed

00:19:44.240 that I had the chance

00:19:45.200 to know each

00:19:45.700 and every one of them.

00:19:47.180 They changed my life

00:19:48.140 in ways I would have

00:19:48.780 never put into words.

00:19:50.760 I hope that they are

00:19:51.720 remembered for who they are

00:19:52.920 and not what happened

00:19:53.520 to them

00:19:53.860 because who they are

00:19:54.840 were so beautiful

00:19:55.580 and they deserve

00:19:56.580 to be remembered

00:19:57.120 in the highest way.

00:20:00.200 My heart breaks

00:20:01.100 every time

00:20:01.680 I go to text one of them

00:20:03.000 or how badly

00:20:03.620 I wish I could see

00:20:04.660 and hang out with them

00:20:05.600 and then I remember

00:20:07.480 I cannot.

00:20:09.180 I will never be able

00:20:10.260 to again

00:20:10.860 but I still talk

00:20:12.660 to them in my prayers

00:20:13.440 every single night

00:20:14.280 and I always will.

00:20:15.080 I wish more

00:20:17.840 than anything

00:20:18.360 I could hug

00:20:19.080 them one last time

00:20:20.080 and I wish

00:20:21.740 I could tell them

00:20:22.360 how much I love them

00:20:23.300 and even though

00:20:24.840 I cannot

00:20:25.220 I still tell them

00:20:26.200 every night

00:20:26.780 I will keep living

00:20:28.660 for them

00:20:29.080 as long as I am

00:20:29.920 lucky enough

00:20:30.380 to still be here

00:20:31.140 and they were all

00:20:32.640 truly one of a kind

00:20:33.720 and they will be

00:20:35.100 in our hearts

00:20:35.620 forever and always.

00:20:36.400 Thank you

00:20:41.780 and please

00:20:42.320 convey

00:20:42.940 to

00:20:43.660 Bethany

00:20:44.980 my appreciation

00:20:45.920 for her courage

00:20:46.780 and I hope

00:20:48.060 that she heals.

00:20:53.400 Next is

00:20:54.100 Dylan Mortensen.

00:20:55.160 We're asking

00:20:55.660 for some accommodations

00:20:56.640 for Ms. Mortensen

00:20:57.500 and does she be allowed

00:20:58.560 to sit in my seat?

00:20:59.820 Sure.

00:21:00.100 Thank you.

00:21:06.400 Dylan, just take

00:21:15.140 your time, all right?

00:21:16.100 Okay.

00:21:36.400 Thank you, Your Honor.

00:21:55.440 What happened that night

00:21:56.640 changed everything.

00:22:02.400 Because of him

00:22:03.500 for a beautiful

00:22:05.160 genuine

00:22:08.520 compassionate people

00:22:11.240 were taken

00:22:13.000 from this world

00:22:13.860 for no reason.

00:22:22.260 He didn't just

00:22:23.300 take their lives.

00:22:24.700 He took the light

00:22:25.460 they carried it

00:22:26.120 into every room.

00:22:28.460 He took away

00:22:29.580 how they made

00:22:30.240 everyone feel

00:22:30.880 safe, loved

00:22:32.300 and full of joy.

00:22:33.360 He took away

00:22:36.040 the ability

00:22:36.680 for me to tell

00:22:37.400 him that I love

00:22:38.060 them

00:22:38.300 and that I'm

00:22:39.060 so proud

00:22:39.660 of them.

00:22:42.920 He took away

00:22:43.840 who they were

00:22:44.280 becoming

00:22:44.860 and the futures

00:22:46.440 they were going

00:22:46.940 to have.

00:22:48.560 He took away

00:22:49.140 birthdays,

00:22:50.900 graduations,

00:22:53.440 celebrations

00:22:54.040 and all the memories

00:22:57.400 and all the memories

00:22:57.420 that we were

00:22:57.800 supposed to make.

00:22:58.680 All of it

00:22:59.360 is gone

00:23:00.020 and all the people

00:23:02.940 who love them

00:23:03.660 are just left

00:23:04.660 to carry that weight

00:23:05.380 forever.

00:23:07.580 He didn't just

00:23:08.460 take them from the world.

00:23:09.840 He took them

00:23:10.720 from me,

00:23:12.000 my friends,

00:23:14.100 my people

00:23:15.540 who felt like

00:23:16.100 my home,

00:23:18.400 the people I looked

00:23:19.460 up to

00:23:20.020 and adored

00:23:20.960 more than anyone.

00:23:23.280 He took away

00:23:24.400 my ability

00:23:25.040 to trust

00:23:25.700 the world

00:23:26.040 around me.

00:23:27.740 What he did

00:23:28.520 shattered me

00:23:29.420 in places

00:23:30.360 I didn't know

00:23:31.020 could break.

00:23:32.480 I was barely

00:23:33.400 19 when he did

00:23:34.520 this.

00:23:35.840 We had just

00:23:36.360 celebrated my birthday

00:23:37.340 at the end

00:23:38.080 of September.

00:23:39.820 I should have

00:23:40.560 been figuring out

00:23:41.300 who I was.

00:23:42.560 I should have

00:23:42.980 been having

00:23:43.480 the college experience

00:23:44.660 in starting

00:23:45.840 to establish

00:23:46.520 my future.

00:23:48.600 Instead,

00:23:49.920 I was forced

00:23:50.960 to learn

00:23:51.420 how to survive

00:23:52.140 the unimaginable.

00:23:54.860 I couldn't

00:23:55.580 be alone.

00:23:59.660 I had to sleep

00:24:00.700 in my mom's bed

00:24:01.500 because I was

00:24:02.040 too terrified

00:24:02.900 to close my eyes.

00:24:04.900 Terrified that

00:24:05.520 if I blinked,

00:24:06.400 someone might be there.

00:24:09.200 I made escape plans

00:24:10.720 everywhere I went.

00:24:12.480 If something happens,

00:24:13.720 how do I get out?

00:24:15.480 What can I use

00:24:16.520 to defend myself?

00:24:17.860 Who can help?

00:24:20.440 Then there are

00:24:21.140 the panic attacks.

00:24:22.980 The kind that

00:24:23.900 slam into me

00:24:24.900 like a tsunami

00:24:25.560 out of nowhere.

00:24:26.900 I can't breathe.

00:24:30.400 I can't think.

00:24:32.620 I can't stop shaking.

00:24:39.120 All I can do

00:24:40.060 is scream

00:24:40.700 because the emotional

00:24:42.540 pain and the grief

00:24:43.940 is too much

00:24:44.620 to handle

00:24:45.180 and my chest

00:24:46.880 feels like

00:24:47.400 escaping in.

00:24:51.480 Sometimes I drop

00:24:52.580 to the floor

00:24:53.180 with my heart racing,

00:24:55.000 convinced something

00:24:56.140 is very wrong.

00:24:57.800 It's far beyond

00:24:58.800 anxiety.

00:25:00.000 It's my body

00:25:01.000 reliving everything

00:25:02.240 over and over again.

00:25:04.900 My nervous system

00:25:06.140 never got the message

00:25:07.160 that it is over

00:25:08.140 and it won't let me

00:25:09.700 forget what he did

00:25:10.600 to them.

00:25:13.080 People call me

00:25:13.980 strong.

00:25:15.300 They say I'm a survivor,

00:25:17.000 but I don't see

00:25:18.260 what my new reality

00:25:19.140 looks like.

00:25:20.380 They don't see

00:25:21.180 the panic attacks,

00:25:22.720 the hypervigilance,

00:25:24.200 the exhaustion,

00:25:25.920 the way I scan

00:25:26.960 every room I enter,

00:25:28.620 the way I flinch

00:25:30.180 at sudden sounds.

00:25:32.220 They don't know

00:25:33.020 how heavy it is

00:25:34.460 to carry so much pain

00:25:35.780 and still be expected

00:25:36.920 to keep going

00:25:37.680 and that's because

00:25:38.440 of him.

00:25:41.540 He still parts of me

00:25:42.800 I may never get back.

00:25:45.480 He took the version

00:25:46.840 of me who didn't

00:25:47.580 constantly ask,

00:25:48.720 what if it happens

00:25:49.440 again?

00:25:51.960 What if next time

00:25:53.040 I don't survive?

00:25:54.000 He may have

00:26:05.940 shattered parts of me,

00:26:07.360 but I'm still

00:26:08.720 putting myself

00:26:09.400 back together.

00:26:11.460 Piece by piece,

00:26:13.040 I'm learning how to live

00:26:14.000 in this new version

00:26:14.740 of life.

00:26:16.100 It is not easy.

00:26:17.600 It hurts,

00:26:19.000 but I'm still trying.

00:26:21.180 Still trying

00:26:22.220 and I'm not

00:26:22.780 trying just for me.

00:26:23.880 I'm trying for them,

00:26:25.340 my friends.

00:26:28.260 About a year ago,

00:26:29.620 I had a dream

00:26:30.960 about them.

00:26:32.180 I got to say goodbye.

00:26:34.240 I told them

00:26:34.920 I won't be able

00:26:35.680 to see you again,

00:26:36.820 so I need to

00:26:37.840 tell you goodbye.

00:26:39.440 They all kept

00:26:40.040 asking why

00:26:40.880 and all I could say

00:26:41.720 was I can't tell you,

00:26:42.860 but I have to.

00:26:45.260 When I woke up,

00:26:46.840 I felt shattered

00:26:48.100 and heartbroken,

00:26:50.160 but also strangely

00:26:51.720 grateful,

00:26:52.260 like maybe in some way

00:26:54.200 that dream gave us

00:26:55.160 the goodbye we never got.

00:26:57.500 Still no dream

00:26:58.420 can replace them

00:26:59.320 and no goodbye

00:27:00.900 will ever feel finished.

00:27:04.080 He is a hollow vessel,

00:27:06.480 something less than human,

00:27:08.720 a body without empathy,

00:27:11.140 without remorse.

00:27:12.060 He chose destruction.

00:27:15.900 He chose evil.

00:27:18.360 He feels nothing.

00:27:20.300 He tried to take everything

00:27:21.900 from me,

00:27:23.120 my friends,

00:27:24.260 my safety,

00:27:25.460 my identity,

00:27:26.700 my future.

00:27:28.600 He took their lives,

00:27:30.120 but I will continue

00:27:31.760 trying to be like them

00:27:32.900 to make them proud.

00:27:35.760 Living is how

00:27:36.600 I honor them.

00:27:38.080 Speaking today

00:27:38.800 is to help me find

00:27:39.740 some sort of justice

00:27:40.740 for them,

00:27:41.620 and I will never

00:27:43.220 let him take that

00:27:44.040 from me.

00:27:45.040 He may have taken

00:27:45.780 so much from me,

00:27:47.100 but he will never

00:27:48.060 get to take my voice.

00:27:51.860 He will never

00:27:53.000 take the memories

00:27:53.940 I had with them.

00:27:54.840 He will never

00:27:57.940 erase the love

00:27:58.760 we shared,

00:27:59.700 the laughs we had,

00:28:01.240 or the way

00:28:01.860 they made me feel

00:28:02.560 seen and whole.

00:28:03.760 Those things are mine.

00:28:05.480 They are sacred,

00:28:06.660 and he will never

00:28:07.960 touch them.

00:28:09.760 I get to feel sadness.

00:28:11.840 I get to feel rage.

00:28:13.420 I get to feel joy

00:28:14.660 even when it's hard.

00:28:16.460 I get to feel love

00:28:17.800 even when it hurts.

00:28:18.980 I get to live.

00:28:21.260 And while I will still

00:28:22.240 live with this pain,

00:28:23.580 at least I get to

00:28:24.720 live my life,

00:28:25.920 he will stay here,

00:28:27.620 empty, forgotten,

00:28:29.340 and powerless.

00:28:33.600 Jillian, thank you

00:28:34.480 so much for your courage.

00:28:35.840 I appreciate it.

00:28:50.640 Next, we have members

00:28:51.760 from the Madison-Mogan family.

00:28:54.720 First would be

00:28:55.740 Scott Laramie,

00:28:57.100 Madison-Mogan's

00:28:58.120 stepfather.

00:29:12.240 I'm standing by home

00:29:13.580 as Karen Laramie,

00:29:14.900 Madison's mother.

00:29:15.780 Thank you, Your Honor.

00:29:21.880 My name is Scott Laramie.

00:29:24.520 I'm Maddie Mogan's

00:29:25.920 stepfather and the

00:29:27.160 husband of Maddie's

00:29:27.980 mother, Karen Laramie.

00:29:30.240 I will read this

00:29:31.200 victim impact statement

00:29:32.380 on behalf of Karen

00:29:33.400 and myself.

00:29:36.400 Maddie was our gift

00:29:37.480 of life, our purpose,

00:29:39.260 and our hope.

00:29:41.680 Maddie quickly became

00:29:42.860 Karen's joy,

00:29:44.280 identity,

00:29:45.320 and purpose in life.

00:29:48.280 My joy in Maddie's

00:29:49.440 life when she was

00:29:51.160 two and a half years old

00:29:52.080 experience transformed me

00:29:54.280 into a life of joy,

00:29:56.720 love,

00:29:57.260 and family.

00:30:00.960 Maddie was bright,

00:30:02.260 beautiful,

00:30:03.880 kind,

00:30:05.380 empathic.

00:30:07.440 She listened carefully

00:30:08.820 to others and was

00:30:09.960 observant,

00:30:11.100 seeing and caring about

00:30:13.080 the hearts and the minds

00:30:14.700 of all she encountered.

00:30:17.380 She loved music

00:30:18.640 and music festivals.

00:30:21.040 She had a wonderful

00:30:21.980 sense of humor.

00:30:24.260 She excelled in school.

00:30:25.520 She was an easy

00:30:28.900 child,

00:30:29.720 cheesy child to raise,

00:30:31.380 almost never requiring

00:30:32.620 discipline,

00:30:34.060 and almost always

00:30:34.760 given us

00:30:35.700 parental joy.

00:30:39.380 One time,

00:30:40.720 Karen,

00:30:41.120 one time Karen remembers

00:30:42.440 disciplining Maddie

00:30:43.580 as a little girl.

00:30:46.280 Maddie responded,

00:30:47.640 you broke my heart,

00:30:49.400 which of course

00:30:50.960 melted ours.

00:30:53.700 She had a,

00:30:54.400 she had a keen

00:30:55.300 wit,

00:30:55.720 even at that young

00:30:56.480 age.

00:30:59.240 But she

00:30:59.960 transitioned

00:31:00.500 into teenage years.

00:31:04.900 She prioritized us

00:31:06.540 and extended family

00:31:07.800 over many of the

00:31:09.120 distractions

00:31:09.540 that capture

00:31:10.880 teenagers.

00:31:12.900 She showered us

00:31:14.040 with her presence

00:31:14.740 and love

00:31:15.460 at family events,

00:31:17.460 barbecues,

00:31:18.380 picnics,

00:31:19.260 birthdays,

00:31:20.040 holidays,

00:31:20.460 and others.

00:31:22.760 She spent

00:31:23.700 countless hours

00:31:24.580 with her papa,

00:31:25.980 her uncle David,

00:31:28.400 Ann Aideen,

00:31:29.780 and her other

00:31:30.860 close family

00:31:31.720 and friends.

00:31:37.160 This world

00:31:38.200 was a better place

00:31:39.800 with her in it.

00:31:40.480 As she reached

00:31:43.780 adulthood,

00:31:45.580 Maddie applied

00:31:46.300 her studies

00:31:46.900 to be

00:31:47.680 a marketing

00:31:48.520 professional,

00:31:49.960 entering into

00:31:50.700 an internship

00:31:51.340 at Payne West

00:31:52.260 and started

00:31:53.460 planning her

00:31:54.000 professional

00:31:54.660 future.

00:31:56.860 As with all

00:31:57.780 things,

00:31:58.940 she involved

00:31:59.780 Karen and myself

00:32:00.840 in the joy

00:32:01.540 of her journey.

00:32:03.880 As she

00:32:04.600 transitioned

00:32:05.080 into womanhood,

00:32:06.420 Karen and I

00:32:06.920 continued to be

00:32:07.920 astounded

00:32:08.420 at this

00:32:09.040 wonderful

00:32:09.520 and accomplished

00:32:10.500 person we

00:32:11.400 had created.

00:32:12.940 All parents

00:32:13.880 dream of their

00:32:14.740 children accomplishing

00:32:15.700 more than them.

00:32:17.720 We realized

00:32:18.820 this dream.

00:32:20.500 All we had

00:32:21.280 not become,

00:32:22.200 she was becoming.

00:32:24.900 Karen and I

00:32:25.860 are ordinary

00:32:26.320 people,

00:32:27.520 but we lived

00:32:28.520 extraordinary lives

00:32:29.680 because we had

00:32:30.460 Maddie.

00:32:33.240 Maddie was

00:32:33.940 taken senselessly

00:32:35.320 and brutally

00:32:36.200 in a sudden

00:32:37.920 act of evil.

00:32:40.380 She was taken

00:32:41.160 along with

00:32:42.040 the young,

00:32:44.120 promising,

00:32:45.580 and bright

00:32:45.860 lives of

00:32:46.560 Kaylee,

00:32:47.400 Zanna,

00:32:48.100 and Ethan.

00:32:52.100 First,

00:32:52.800 we felt

00:32:53.080 disbelief.

00:32:56.320 Next,

00:32:57.000 we felt

00:32:57.340 disorientation.

00:32:58.240 then we felt

00:33:01.700 grief

00:33:02.360 overcome us.

00:33:04.800 Our grief

00:33:05.640 has compounded

00:33:06.740 even more

00:33:07.400 for the

00:33:07.920 Goncalves,

00:33:08.820 Cronodal,

00:33:09.540 and Chapin

00:33:09.900 families.

00:33:11.720 We speak

00:33:12.540 of hope

00:33:12.880 and healing,

00:33:14.260 and we do

00:33:16.300 have hope

00:33:16.820 and some

00:33:17.420 healing.

00:33:19.400 But the

00:33:20.120 vast emotional

00:33:20.860 wound

00:33:21.240 will never

00:33:22.500 fully heal.

00:33:23.020 Since

00:33:26.460 Maddie's

00:33:26.800 loss,

00:33:27.500 there's

00:33:27.760 emptiness

00:33:28.180 in our

00:33:28.700 hearts,

00:33:29.480 home,

00:33:29.940 and family,

00:33:31.280 an endless

00:33:31.880 void.

00:33:34.940 After

00:33:35.520 losing

00:33:35.800 her mother

00:33:36.240 in a car

00:33:36.800 crash,

00:33:38.220 Karen

00:33:38.420 took

00:33:39.080 years

00:33:39.580 to grieve

00:33:40.840 and recover.

00:33:46.080 The feeling

00:33:46.780 that her

00:33:47.160 life with

00:33:48.060 Maddie

00:33:48.400 and they

00:33:48.860 was perfect

00:33:50.220 helped her

00:33:50.820 to start

00:33:51.700 to heal.

00:33:53.020 Now,

00:33:54.060 this is

00:33:54.420 no longer

00:33:54.840 perfect.

00:33:56.820 After

00:33:57.420 Maddie's

00:33:57.760 loss,

00:33:58.320 Karen felt

00:33:58.740 like she

00:33:59.060 was spinning

00:34:00.100 out,

00:34:00.680 emotionally

00:34:01.120 collapsing

00:34:03.460 into anxiety

00:34:05.820 and depression.

00:34:08.440 She

00:34:09.000 sometimes

00:34:09.440 asks,

00:34:10.100 how am I

00:34:11.420 supposed to

00:34:11.820 go on

00:34:12.240 when I've

00:34:13.460 lost my

00:34:13.920 favorite

00:34:14.140 person in

00:34:14.640 the world?

00:34:16.640 I felt

00:34:17.400 the same,

00:34:18.800 and we

00:34:19.280 continue to

00:34:19.840 struggle.

00:34:23.020 The loss

00:34:24.040 of Maddie

00:34:24.440 has impacted

00:34:25.240 so many

00:34:26.040 beyond our

00:34:27.140 family.

00:34:28.420 Her second

00:34:29.480 family is

00:34:30.160 her sorority

00:34:30.620 sisters who

00:34:31.800 grieve alongside

00:34:33.040 us.

00:34:35.920 She has so

00:34:37.080 many close

00:34:37.520 friends who

00:34:38.460 suffer from

00:34:38.980 her loss.

00:34:39.500 loss.

00:34:42.280 We will

00:34:42.580 continue to

00:34:44.360 be felt

00:34:46.900 by the

00:34:51.480 Vandal

00:34:51.680 community,

00:34:53.180 including

00:34:53.920 Vandal

00:34:54.980 Solutions on

00:34:56.060 campus where

00:34:56.700 she volunteered

00:34:57.400 her time

00:34:58.660 for others.

00:34:59.380 It helps

00:35:05.780 us to

00:35:06.080 know

00:35:06.340 that he

00:35:06.780 is in

00:35:07.060 heaven now,

00:35:08.800 freed from

00:35:09.280 the trials

00:35:09.800 of this

00:35:10.120 earth.

00:35:11.480 We,

00:35:12.180 however,

00:35:12.760 continue to

00:35:13.500 live on

00:35:13.980 without the

00:35:15.720 grace and

00:35:16.440 support of

00:35:17.020 her presence.

00:35:18.900 We will

00:35:19.600 grow old

00:35:20.140 without our

00:35:20.960 only child,

00:35:22.780 our bright,

00:35:24.140 beautiful

00:35:24.460 friend and

00:35:25.220 daughter.

00:35:25.460 In the

00:35:27.840 end,

00:35:28.280 there are

00:35:28.560 no words

00:35:29.100 that can

00:35:29.600 accurately

00:35:30.420 capture the

00:35:31.900 devastation of

00:35:33.320 losing Maddie.

00:35:36.420 We will

00:35:37.200 endure and

00:35:38.960 we will go

00:35:39.480 on.

00:35:41.180 For Maddie,

00:35:41.920 we will not

00:35:42.480 let our grief

00:35:43.340 consume us.

00:35:45.480 For Maddie,

00:35:46.520 we will continue

00:35:47.300 to love and

00:35:48.620 care for our

00:35:49.320 family and

00:35:49.940 friends,

00:35:51.120 including the

00:35:51.920 families of

00:35:52.600 Kaylee,

00:35:53.580 Santa,

00:35:54.100 and Ethan.

00:35:55.460 we will

00:35:57.840 remain united

00:35:58.560 with them.

00:36:00.180 We can only

00:36:01.080 hope that

00:36:02.000 others out

00:36:02.500 there suffering

00:36:03.380 similar losses

00:36:04.600 can look to

00:36:06.280 us and see

00:36:07.160 that we can

00:36:07.820 overcome hatred,

00:36:09.080 darkness,

00:36:09.660 and evil.

00:36:12.180 We know

00:36:12.920 the law

00:36:13.320 allows us to

00:36:14.060 comment on

00:36:14.660 the defendant

00:36:15.160 and the

00:36:15.800 sentence.

00:36:18.560 As for a

00:36:19.440 sentence,

00:36:20.000 we support

00:36:20.460 the plea

00:36:20.940 agreement.

00:36:22.700 Society needs

00:36:23.600 to be protected

00:36:24.180 against this

00:36:24.720 evil.

00:36:25.460 As for the

00:36:27.780 defendant,

00:36:28.980 we will not

00:36:29.760 waste the

00:36:30.080 words,

00:36:31.480 nor will we

00:36:32.480 fall into

00:36:34.900 hatred and

00:36:35.960 bitterness.

00:36:38.440 Evil has many

00:36:39.560 faces,

00:36:40.560 and we now

00:36:41.420 know this,

00:36:42.500 but evil does

00:36:43.340 not deserve

00:36:43.940 our time

00:36:44.680 and attention.

00:36:45.620 we are done

00:36:50.380 being victims.

00:36:52.620 We are

00:36:53.220 taking back

00:36:53.680 our lives.

00:36:58.580 We will

00:36:59.200 turn our

00:36:59.520 time,

00:37:00.320 talents,

00:37:00.740 and attention

00:37:01.180 to hope,

00:37:03.060 healing,

00:37:03.700 and helping

00:37:04.260 others,

00:37:05.000 and to the

00:37:05.740 future.

00:37:06.020 we invite

00:37:08.300 all those

00:37:09.040 who have

00:37:10.120 suffered with

00:37:10.620 us on

00:37:10.940 this to

00:37:12.940 join us

00:37:13.380 in our

00:37:13.820 journey.

00:37:15.400 We can

00:37:16.000 make this

00:37:16.320 world a

00:37:16.840 better place.

00:37:19.200 We can

00:37:19.820 move on

00:37:20.240 from tragedy.

00:37:22.820 Adversity

00:37:23.300 will visit

00:37:23.860 us,

00:37:24.840 evil will

00:37:25.340 visit us,

00:37:26.040 but we

00:37:26.380 will overcome.

00:37:28.880 We can

00:37:29.660 and will

00:37:30.380 endure.

00:37:30.700 Karen and

00:37:33.280 I express

00:37:34.280 our gratitude

00:37:34.800 to your

00:37:35.440 honor and

00:37:36.420 to the

00:37:36.640 prosecution

00:37:37.060 team for

00:37:39.760 allowing us

00:37:40.280 the opportunity

00:37:40.840 to make

00:37:41.340 this statement.

00:37:42.900 Thank you.

00:37:44.580 Thank you so

00:37:45.320 much for your

00:37:45.840 courage, and

00:37:46.700 I am so

00:37:47.240 sorry for

00:37:47.700 your loss.

00:37:48.540 God bless you.

00:37:48.880 Thank you,

00:37:49.040 your honor.

00:38:00.700 Your

00:38:10.480 honor,

00:38:11.120 this is

00:38:11.640 Leander

00:38:11.980 James.

00:38:12.780 He's the

00:38:13.240 attorney for

00:38:13.840 the Mogan

00:38:14.180 family and

00:38:15.000 victim advocate.

00:38:16.780 He'll be

00:38:17.140 reading a

00:38:17.620 statement for

00:38:18.260 Karen Laramie.

00:38:23.160 May it

00:38:23.840 please the

00:38:24.180 court,

00:38:24.620 counsel?

00:38:25.440 My name

00:38:26.060 is Leander

00:38:26.460 James.

00:38:27.160 I am the

00:38:27.740 pro bono

00:38:29.320 counsel for

00:38:30.020 Karen and

00:38:30.900 Scott Laramie.

00:38:32.320 Karen has

00:38:32.940 asked me to

00:38:33.400 read the

00:38:33.680 statement into

00:38:34.220 the record.

00:38:37.680 I thank

00:38:38.460 my husband

00:38:39.020 Scott for

00:38:40.840 his statement,

00:38:41.860 his courage,

00:38:42.980 and his

00:38:43.640 unending love

00:38:44.840 and support

00:38:45.940 during this

00:38:46.480 dark time.

00:38:48.180 While words

00:38:49.060 are inadequate

00:38:49.500 to capture

00:38:50.100 the impact

00:38:50.640 of this

00:38:50.980 horrific crime

00:38:51.600 on our

00:38:51.820 family,

00:38:52.840 he expressed

00:38:53.400 it as best

00:38:54.160 anyone could.

00:38:56.240 For

00:38:56.580 Maddie's

00:38:56.960 sake, I

00:38:57.300 will add

00:38:57.800 my supplement

00:38:58.520 statement that

00:38:59.420 incorporates

00:38:59.940 additional

00:39:00.380 impact in

00:39:01.620 the context

00:39:02.160 of my

00:39:02.540 extended

00:39:02.900 family.

00:39:04.720 I am

00:39:05.580 grateful to

00:39:06.620 Maddie's

00:39:06.940 great uncle,

00:39:07.780 Brian Caulfield,

00:39:09.120 for assisting

00:39:09.820 me with the

00:39:10.740 difficult task

00:39:12.660 of putting

00:39:13.580 our pain

00:39:14.200 into words.

00:39:16.600 For me

00:39:17.560 and my

00:39:18.160 extended family,

00:39:19.040 Maddie was

00:39:19.440 our hope

00:39:19.900 and our

00:39:20.700 light.

00:39:21.980 Her beauty,

00:39:22.900 both outside

00:39:23.680 and in,

00:39:24.580 shone its light

00:39:25.380 upon everyone

00:39:26.180 with whom she

00:39:27.000 came in

00:39:27.360 contact.

00:39:29.220 Her beauty,

00:39:30.300 both,

00:39:30.600 pardon me,

00:39:31.900 she carried

00:39:32.660 that hope

00:39:33.140 and light

00:39:33.560 into the

00:39:34.740 future for

00:39:35.780 our entire

00:39:36.160 family.

00:39:37.560 We have

00:39:38.220 memories of

00:39:38.720 our Maddie

00:39:39.180 and grief

00:39:39.940 and pain

00:39:40.560 at her

00:39:41.020 being taken

00:39:41.660 from our

00:39:42.720 presence.

00:39:44.420 Any one of

00:39:45.020 us would have

00:39:45.460 given our

00:39:45.840 own light

00:39:46.320 to have been

00:39:47.420 outshone by

00:39:48.160 hers.

00:39:49.320 We now look

00:39:50.280 to our

00:39:50.580 Creator to

00:39:52.040 know that

00:39:52.500 her light

00:39:52.940 continues where

00:39:54.480 we look to

00:39:55.040 see her in

00:39:55.880 his presence.

00:39:58.060 Those who

00:39:58.940 commit evil

00:39:59.660 for their

00:40:01.080 own twisted

00:40:01.660 gains and

00:40:03.040 purposes truly

00:40:03.900 defile the

00:40:04.660 efforts and

00:40:05.880 sacrifices of

00:40:07.620 mothers,

00:40:08.480 fathers,

00:40:09.640 families,

00:40:10.920 teachers,

00:40:12.360 clergy,

00:40:13.760 public

00:40:14.020 servants,

00:40:15.440 service members,

00:40:16.400 and all

00:40:17.000 those who

00:40:17.480 commit them

00:40:18.480 themselves to

00:40:19.060 the greater

00:40:19.380 good,

00:40:20.240 freedoms,

00:40:21.500 and the

00:40:22.020 future light

00:40:22.600 of our

00:40:22.860 nation.

00:40:25.800 Condemnation

00:40:26.360 falls heavily

00:40:27.320 upon those

00:40:28.460 who squandered

00:40:29.220 the lives of

00:40:30.300 our future

00:40:30.760 hopes and

00:40:31.340 dreams.

00:40:33.180 Some may

00:40:33.960 offer forgiveness

00:40:34.640 for what the

00:40:35.200 defendant has

00:40:35.800 done.

00:40:36.900 However,

00:40:37.860 we cannot at

00:40:38.960 this time,

00:40:40.080 or perhaps

00:40:40.640 ever,

00:40:42.140 nor will we

00:40:42.920 ask for mercy

00:40:43.840 for what he

00:40:44.300 has done.

00:40:45.600 His acts

00:40:46.180 are too

00:40:46.540 heinous.

00:40:46.940 the agony

00:40:48.560 and grief

00:40:49.160 he has

00:40:49.700 caused

00:40:50.120 too great.

00:40:52.820 But we

00:40:53.440 will waste

00:40:54.780 no further

00:40:55.400 words or

00:40:56.540 thoughts on

00:40:57.320 him.

00:40:58.420 For

00:40:58.840 Maddie's sake,

00:40:59.520 we will

00:40:59.860 move on.

00:41:01.260 We will do

00:41:02.140 our best to

00:41:02.880 carry Maddie's

00:41:03.660 light into

00:41:04.880 this world and

00:41:06.080 make it a

00:41:06.540 better place.

00:41:08.320 I thank the

00:41:09.220 court and the

00:41:10.580 prosecution for

00:41:12.200 allowing me the

00:41:12.880 opportunity to

00:41:13.460 make my

00:41:13.800 statement.

00:41:14.980 And I

00:41:15.380 thank all

00:41:16.040 those who

00:41:17.820 have and will

00:41:18.520 support my

00:41:19.180 family and the

00:41:20.360 families of

00:41:20.940 Kaylee,

00:41:21.960 Xana,

00:41:22.980 and Ethan.

00:41:24.340 Thank you.

00:41:25.040 Thank you.

00:41:25.600 Thank you,

00:41:26.080 Mr. Slarmer.

00:41:26.840 Appreciate it.

00:41:27.740 Thank you.

00:41:28.240 Next is Ben

00:41:42.200 Mogan, the

00:41:42.760 father of

00:41:43.480 Maddie

00:41:43.740 Mogan.

00:41:47.040 Yes, of

00:41:47.800 course.

00:41:48.620 Actually, Your

00:41:49.200 Honor, it will be

00:41:50.200 Kim Chealy, the

00:41:51.780 grandmother of

00:41:52.640 Maddie Mogan.

00:41:53.180 Thank you.

00:41:53.860 Thank you.

00:41:54.440 Thank you.

00:41:55.300 Thank you.

00:41:55.820 Thank you.

00:41:55.960 Thank you.

00:41:57.100 Thank you.

00:41:57.420 Thank you.

00:41:57.680 Thank you.

00:41:58.240 My name is

00:42:07.240 Kim Chealy.

00:42:08.600 I was Maddie

00:42:09.520 Mogan's paternal

00:42:10.620 grandmother, as

00:42:12.260 Ben Mogan, her

00:42:13.520 father, is my

00:42:14.520 son.

00:42:15.880 I'm here today with

00:42:17.220 my sister, Lori

00:42:18.360 Chealy, Maddie's

00:42:19.680 great-aunt, and

00:42:20.800 my son, Ben

00:42:22.020 Mogan, and my

00:42:23.280 daughter-in-law,

00:42:24.260 Corey Hatrock.

00:42:26.420 I'd like to

00:42:27.360 begin by

00:42:27.820 thanking a

00:42:28.540 number of

00:42:28.960 people involved

00:42:29.780 in bringing

00:42:30.240 this case to

00:42:31.200 closure.

00:42:32.420 In my

00:42:33.080 daughter's words,

00:42:34.460 the plea deal

00:42:35.620 the prosecution

00:42:36.320 team reached

00:42:37.340 this month is

00:42:38.900 one that

00:42:39.360 punishes the

00:42:40.160 perpetrator of

00:42:41.040 this horrendous

00:42:41.780 crime, protects

00:42:43.440 the public from

00:42:44.520 further harm, and

00:42:46.440 allows all of us

00:42:47.440 who knew and

00:42:48.100 loved these kids

00:42:49.160 the time to

00:42:50.380 grieve without the

00:42:51.540 anxiety of the

00:42:52.660 long and

00:42:53.540 gruesome trial, the

00:42:55.360 years of

00:42:55.840 appeals, and

00:42:57.220 potential for

00:42:58.140 missed trials

00:42:59.260 along the way.

00:43:00.760 My family and I

00:43:02.000 are so grateful to

00:43:03.360 Bill Thompson and

00:43:04.900 his prosecution

00:43:05.620 team for their

00:43:07.000 dedication and

00:43:08.540 painstaking work

00:43:09.740 that forced the

00:43:11.060 perpetrator to

00:43:11.880 admit his guilt.

00:43:12.760 We want to

00:43:14.360 thank the

00:43:14.800 Idaho State

00:43:15.500 Police, the

00:43:17.060 Moscow Police

00:43:17.940 Department, the

00:43:19.420 FBI, Judge

00:43:21.380 Hippler.

00:43:22.480 We'd also like to

00:43:23.820 thank the

00:43:24.300 University of

00:43:25.040 Idaho officials

00:43:25.980 who have treated

00:43:27.360 the families of

00:43:28.280 the victims with

00:43:29.060 such dignity and

00:43:30.780 kindness and who

00:43:32.420 have honored the

00:43:33.160 four victims

00:43:33.900 beautifully.

00:43:34.540 Maddie was my

00:43:38.020 first grandchild, so

00:43:39.860 when she was

00:43:40.900 born, all her

00:43:42.600 grandparents had

00:43:43.640 the distinct

00:43:44.300 pleasure of

00:43:45.080 deciding what

00:43:45.840 we'd like to be

00:43:46.640 called.

00:43:48.020 I chose Nana,

00:43:49.780 pretty original,

00:43:51.160 but when Maddie was

00:43:52.680 about a year and a

00:43:53.760 half old, her

00:43:55.300 papa, Ben's dad,

00:43:56.800 and I were

00:43:57.260 planning to visit

00:43:58.080 the new little

00:43:58.720 family in Oregon.

00:44:00.980 Maddie didn't

00:44:01.540 have an extensive

00:44:02.480 vocabulary at the

00:44:04.060 time, but

00:44:04.540 for some unknown

00:44:06.520 reason, she

00:44:07.460 called bananas

00:44:08.860 ba-deedle-deedles.

00:44:11.600 When Karen and

00:44:13.060 Ben told her Nana

00:44:14.680 was coming to

00:44:15.680 visit, she figured

00:44:17.360 I say deedle-deedle

00:44:19.700 for that word, so

00:44:21.400 I became deedle-deedle,

00:44:23.940 shortened to

00:44:24.940 deedle when she

00:44:25.720 was about six or

00:44:26.720 seven, and I was

00:44:28.340 deedle all her

00:44:29.520 life.

00:44:30.520 I don't think her

00:44:31.680 stepdad, Scotty,

00:44:33.060 ever knew my

00:44:34.160 given name was

00:44:35.000 Kim.

00:44:37.180 Maddie's and my

00:44:38.180 birthdays were one

00:44:39.360 day apart, and a

00:44:40.720 couple years before

00:44:41.680 she was killed, she

00:44:43.480 gave me this

00:44:44.220 necklace with

00:44:45.600 deedle and Maddie

00:44:46.680 engraved on it, and

00:44:48.580 I added an angel

00:44:50.060 wing, and it's one of

00:44:51.980 my treasured

00:44:52.920 possessions.

00:44:54.220 I also got an

00:44:55.600 angel wing tattoo,

00:44:57.240 never thought I'd see

00:44:58.280 the day, but along

00:45:00.400 with many members of

00:45:01.560 our family, replicating

00:45:03.680 the one that Maddie

00:45:04.800 and her sorority

00:45:06.020 sisters had.

00:45:07.560 I wanted mine where

00:45:09.300 I could see and

00:45:10.180 touch it often.

00:45:12.980 From preschool through

00:45:14.600 grade school, I

00:45:16.380 stopped teaching piano

00:45:17.680 lessons early on

00:45:18.800 Wednesdays and picked

00:45:20.600 Maddie up for bubble

00:45:21.800 baths, brownies, and

00:45:23.280 books.

00:45:24.180 It was our special time

00:45:25.620 together, and she

00:45:27.340 went home those

00:45:28.180 nights in her

00:45:28.940 jammies with a pan

00:45:30.420 of warm brownies for

00:45:31.600 her family.

00:45:33.620 Although Karen and

00:45:35.000 Scotty raised Maddie

00:45:36.460 and did such a

00:45:38.320 lovely job of

00:45:39.260 parenting, we

00:45:40.880 Mogens were lucky

00:45:42.100 to have her for

00:45:43.120 holidays and many

00:45:44.820 other family

00:45:45.580 gatherings.

00:45:47.080 We'll always have

00:45:48.320 our treasured

00:45:49.160 memories of Maddie

00:45:50.140 growing up in our

00:45:51.760 big extended

00:45:52.840 cooperative family,

00:45:54.680 and I thank Karen

00:45:56.340 and Scotty Laramie

00:45:57.760 for being so

00:45:59.160 generous and open

00:46:00.360 and sharing Maddie

00:46:01.880 with her Mogan

00:46:02.620 side of the family.

00:46:04.920 When the four kids

00:46:06.500 were murdered,

00:46:08.200 the foundation

00:46:10.340 fell out of our

00:46:11.320 world.

00:46:13.680 Initially, the fear

00:46:15.120 was truly

00:46:15.920 debilitating.

00:46:17.920 The first six weeks

00:46:19.700 were excruciating,

00:46:21.780 despite the vigils,

00:46:23.920 memorials,

00:46:24.680 candlelight gatherings

00:46:26.160 of students,

00:46:27.600 friends,

00:46:28.420 family,

00:46:29.500 community members.

00:46:31.360 After the arrest

00:46:32.740 in the past two and

00:46:34.100 a half years,

00:46:35.120 my family has lived

00:46:37.020 with grief,

00:46:38.260 with the effects of

00:46:39.540 traumatic grief,

00:46:40.820 of which I was

00:46:42.380 blissfully unaware

00:46:44.020 before all of this.

00:46:46.240 I now have a stack

00:46:47.900 of books on grief.

00:46:49.180 I've attended grief

00:46:51.020 classes at hospice.

00:46:53.060 I've tried

00:46:54.120 EMDR,

00:46:55.460 a technique that

00:46:56.400 helps replace

00:46:57.440 disturbing visions

00:46:58.700 with something

00:46:59.580 more comforting.

00:47:01.140 My son,

00:47:02.460 Ben,

00:47:02.960 his two sisters,

00:47:04.480 Maddie's aunts,

00:47:05.800 and I

00:47:06.320 have all experienced

00:47:08.020 depression

00:47:08.640 and anxiety

00:47:09.980 and sleep

00:47:11.320 disturbance,

00:47:12.460 requiring medical

00:47:14.080 intervention at times.

00:47:15.560 we've all sought

00:47:17.320 counseling off

00:47:18.440 and on.

00:47:20.040 The struggle

00:47:20.700 with media attention

00:47:22.260 was extremely

00:47:23.200 difficult,

00:47:24.540 especially for Ben.

00:47:26.920 No one

00:47:27.860 should live

00:47:28.580 through the violent

00:47:29.460 murder of one's

00:47:30.660 child.

00:47:31.920 Some days,

00:47:32.740 it's beyond me

00:47:33.700 how the parents

00:47:34.520 of these kids

00:47:35.300 are still upright.

00:47:37.240 I'm thankful

00:47:38.420 for the strong

00:47:39.340 families and communities

00:47:40.800 that are supporting

00:47:41.880 the survivors.

00:47:42.700 At the time,

00:47:46.460 I could think

00:47:47.780 of only two blessings

00:47:49.120 surrounding

00:47:50.420 the horrific murders.

00:47:52.980 One was that

00:47:54.200 Ben was living

00:47:55.160 with my partner

00:47:56.140 Tom and me

00:47:57.040 at the time

00:47:57.860 and that we could

00:47:59.260 support each other

00:48:00.280 emotionally

00:48:01.160 through it all.

00:48:03.240 Sadly,

00:48:03.880 Tom died

00:48:04.660 a year ago

00:48:05.480 of a rare

00:48:06.420 brain cancer

00:48:07.500 and he won't

00:48:08.740 be here

00:48:09.280 to see justice

00:48:10.320 served.

00:48:11.680 He was our

00:48:12.340 family's rock

00:48:13.440 and we all

00:48:14.840 miss him

00:48:15.340 every day.

00:48:17.260 A second

00:48:18.020 blessing is that

00:48:19.000 my mother died

00:48:19.960 of COVID

00:48:20.600 several months

00:48:21.580 before the kids

00:48:22.500 were killed

00:48:23.120 and she didn't

00:48:24.600 have to live

00:48:25.300 through the horror.

00:48:27.160 It was difficult

00:48:28.260 to identify

00:48:29.180 blessings.

00:48:31.280 So we've all

00:48:32.520 lost our dear

00:48:33.860 child and a

00:48:35.080 future with her.

00:48:37.020 I ache

00:48:37.820 for the loss

00:48:38.600 of the dreams

00:48:39.380 that she and

00:48:40.220 her true love

00:48:41.140 Jake held.

00:48:43.160 And my heart

00:48:44.220 goes out

00:48:44.740 to Karen

00:48:45.320 and Scotty

00:48:46.180 and your side

00:48:47.500 of Maddie's

00:48:48.080 family.

00:48:49.480 You've had

00:48:50.320 more than

00:48:50.920 your share

00:48:51.480 of loss.

00:48:55.340 My heart

00:48:56.320 aches

00:48:56.720 for the kids'

00:48:57.560 roommates

00:48:58.020 and the families

00:48:59.980 of the other

00:49:00.560 victims

00:49:01.080 and also

00:49:03.540 the family

00:49:04.180 of the

00:49:04.620 perpetrator.

00:49:05.340 going forward

00:49:15.600 we Mogens

00:49:17.300 are choosing

00:49:17.920 to put

00:49:18.380 our energy

00:49:19.120 and focus

00:49:19.860 into honoring

00:49:21.560 Maddie's

00:49:22.200 too short

00:49:22.920 life

00:49:23.420 and sweet

00:49:24.480 spirit

00:49:25.000 by celebrating

00:49:26.960 Maddie May Day

00:49:28.060 which my

00:49:29.380 two daughters

00:49:30.020 established.

00:49:30.920 on May

00:49:32.920 25th each

00:49:34.020 year

00:49:34.380 Maddie's

00:49:35.660 birthday

00:49:36.080 we encourage

00:49:38.400 folks to do

00:49:39.300 random acts

00:49:40.180 of kindness

00:49:40.800 in Maddie's

00:49:41.700 name.

00:49:42.740 In my

00:49:43.720 daughter Katie's

00:49:44.640 words

00:49:45.080 may we all

00:49:47.380 protect our

00:49:48.260 peace in

00:49:49.100 whatever way

00:49:49.760 possible

00:49:50.440 unite in

00:49:52.420 community

00:49:52.980 and focus

00:49:54.240 on joy.

00:49:55.200 please do

00:49:56.920 enact

00:49:57.400 in kindness

00:49:58.300 in Maddie's

00:50:00.080 honor

00:50:00.400 during this

00:50:01.100 week

00:50:01.500 so a

00:50:02.740 glimmer of

00:50:03.360 Maddie's

00:50:03.900 light

00:50:04.300 may live

00:50:05.400 on.

00:50:06.640 Thank you.

00:50:07.660 Thank you

00:50:08.120 and I

00:50:08.760 appreciate

00:50:09.620 your courage

00:50:10.600 and bless

00:50:11.520 you and

00:50:11.780 your family.

00:50:12.700 Thank you.

00:50:18.640 Now

00:50:19.280 it's been

00:50:19.700 Mogan

00:50:20.000 Maddie

00:50:20.820 Mogan's

00:50:21.200 father.

00:50:25.200 Benjamin

00:50:40.000 Mogan

00:50:40.420 and

00:50:40.920 Maddie's

00:50:42.380 dad

00:50:43.100 and

00:50:44.920 first I

00:50:50.820 just

00:50:51.160 want to

00:50:52.840 say thanks

00:50:53.300 to all

00:50:53.680 the people

00:50:54.540 that helped

00:50:55.260 bring this

00:50:56.160 all to

00:50:57.560 a close.

00:50:59.440 I know

00:51:00.540 it's not

00:51:01.080 the resolution

00:51:02.660 that everyone

00:51:03.400 wanted but

00:51:06.360 I think

00:51:08.840 that

00:51:09.100 everyone

00:51:13.360 worked so

00:51:13.860 hard and

00:51:14.300 we really

00:51:14.820 appreciate

00:51:15.180 all their

00:51:15.520 efforts.

00:51:16.260 It was

00:51:16.620 such a

00:51:17.100 hard thing

00:51:17.540 to go

00:51:18.160 through

00:51:18.340 for

00:51:18.520 everybody.

00:51:23.680 Maddie

00:51:25.880 was my

00:51:26.260 only

00:51:26.620 child

00:51:28.520 that I

00:51:29.160 ever

00:51:29.820 had.

00:51:33.200 She

00:51:33.440 was

00:51:33.820 the

00:51:36.420 only

00:51:37.780 great thing

00:51:39.280 I ever

00:51:39.620 really did

00:51:40.160 and the

00:51:40.720 only thing

00:51:41.180 I was

00:51:41.420 really ever

00:51:41.920 proud of.

00:51:43.100 I thought

00:51:50.460 we would

00:51:50.860 have

00:51:51.860 the rest

00:51:53.300 of our

00:51:53.540 lives

00:51:53.740 together

00:51:54.160 to

00:51:54.560 be together

00:51:59.840 and

00:52:00.140 know each

00:52:01.980 other

00:52:02.240 and I

00:52:04.020 really

00:52:04.340 took for

00:52:05.420 granted

00:52:05.720 the time

00:52:08.860 she was

00:52:10.260 in college

00:52:10.760 and I

00:52:11.080 thought

00:52:11.280 we'll

00:52:11.840 have

00:52:12.060 the

00:52:12.260 rest

00:52:12.440 of

00:52:12.580 our

00:52:12.720 lives

00:52:13.040 to

00:52:13.400 do

00:52:19.200 all

00:52:19.360 the

00:52:19.520 stuff

00:52:19.720 that

00:52:19.880 we're

00:52:20.020 supposed

00:52:20.240 to

00:52:20.380 do

00:52:20.600 and

00:52:21.120 she

00:52:24.400 was

00:52:24.640 just

00:52:24.860 about

00:52:25.100 done.

00:52:25.960 She

00:52:26.480 actually

00:52:26.780 earned

00:52:27.040 all of

00:52:27.380 her

00:52:27.560 credits

00:52:27.980 for

00:52:28.360 her

00:52:28.880 college

00:52:29.120 degree

00:52:29.520 and

00:52:30.020 Karen

00:52:31.220 and

00:52:31.500 Scotty

00:52:31.820 and I

00:52:32.060 got to

00:52:32.420 go and

00:52:32.800 get her

00:52:33.480 diploma

00:52:33.900 that she

00:52:34.320 actually

00:52:34.660 earned

00:52:35.020 and she

00:52:36.200 served

00:52:37.560 every bit

00:52:38.040 of that

00:52:38.420 and

00:52:38.620 but I

00:52:39.740 I

00:52:40.920 I thought

00:52:42.220 that

00:52:45.740 that

00:52:46.200 that

00:52:47.960 was going

00:52:48.280 to be

00:52:48.660 just the

00:52:50.120 beginning

00:52:50.420 of

00:52:50.760 a

00:52:51.480 long

00:52:53.180 life

00:52:53.800 together

00:52:54.160 and

00:52:54.440 we never

00:52:56.240 got that

00:52:56.840 Karen

00:53:01.440 and Scotty

00:53:01.980 did such

00:53:02.380 a great

00:53:02.700 job

00:53:03.000 racing

00:53:03.320 her

00:53:04.480 after

00:53:05.020 Karen

00:53:07.420 and I

00:53:07.840 split up

00:53:09.740 and

00:53:10.040 I'm

00:53:10.980 so

00:53:11.200 thankful

00:53:11.560 for

00:53:12.260 Scotty

00:53:14.260 and

00:53:14.540 the role

00:53:16.240 that he

00:53:16.700 played

00:53:17.040 in her

00:53:17.700 life

00:53:18.080 when I

00:53:18.600 wasn't

00:53:18.940 able to

00:53:19.460 but we

00:53:21.080 got to

00:53:21.520 spend a lot

00:53:22.080 of great

00:53:22.340 times together

00:53:22.940 Maddie

00:53:23.260 and I

00:53:23.560 she was

00:53:25.280 my

00:53:25.660 favorite

00:53:26.620 person

00:53:27.120 to go

00:53:27.380 to a

00:53:27.660 concert

00:53:27.920 with

00:53:28.360 and we

00:53:28.940 got to

00:53:29.240 see some

00:53:29.660 fun shows

00:53:30.280 together

00:53:30.660 and I

00:53:31.800 told her

00:53:32.260 if there's

00:53:32.580 ever a

00:53:32.940 show that

00:53:33.260 you want

00:53:33.500 to go

00:53:33.740 to let

00:53:34.420 me know

00:53:34.740 and I'll

00:53:35.180 get you

00:53:35.920 tickets for

00:53:36.840 you and

00:53:37.200 your friend

00:53:37.640 or if

00:53:38.580 we want to

00:53:40.260 go together

00:53:40.760 we'll make

00:53:41.820 it happen

00:53:42.260 and we

00:53:43.200 my favorite

00:53:46.140 memory with

00:53:47.060 her was

00:53:47.640 when the

00:53:48.500 Mac Miller

00:53:48.940 show sold

00:53:49.840 out here

00:53:50.220 in Spokane

00:53:50.860 and

00:53:51.260 everyone

00:53:53.100 wanted

00:53:53.500 tickets

00:53:53.960 no one

00:53:54.280 could get

00:53:54.600 them

00:53:54.780 and the

00:53:55.160 last day

00:53:56.440 before the

00:53:57.000 show

00:53:57.180 they did

00:53:57.540 a radio

00:53:59.720 thing

00:54:00.240 and I

00:54:00.640 got four

00:54:01.500 meet and

00:54:02.120 greet tickets

00:54:02.700 for Maddie

00:54:03.960 and her

00:54:04.240 friends

00:54:04.640 and me

00:54:05.200 to go

00:54:05.580 and see

00:54:06.680 the show

00:54:07.080 and that

00:54:07.840 was her

00:54:08.120 favorite

00:54:08.440 artist at

00:54:09.040 the time

00:54:09.400 was Mac

00:54:09.820 Miller

00:54:10.080 and he's

00:54:12.900 gone now

00:54:13.440 too

00:54:13.720 and my

00:54:14.540 little cousin

00:54:15.320 Zach

00:54:15.720 drove us

00:54:16.380 all there

00:54:16.860 that night

00:54:18.000 and he's

00:54:18.480 gone too

00:54:19.060 tragically

00:54:19.720 and yeah

00:54:21.620 anyway

00:54:24.300 the last

00:54:28.700 thing that

00:54:29.000 she ever

00:54:29.300 wrote to

00:54:30.000 me was

00:54:30.440 this

00:54:30.680 Father's Day

00:54:31.200 card

00:54:31.560 and I'm

00:54:34.920 so glad

00:54:35.280 I still

00:54:35.600 have it

00:54:36.060 I'm just

00:54:37.740 going to

00:54:37.960 read what

00:54:38.320 she said

00:54:38.840 it says

00:54:40.980 happy

00:54:41.300 Father's

00:54:41.780 Day

00:54:42.000 I hope

00:54:43.060 you have

00:54:43.340 the best

00:54:43.740 day

00:54:44.080 I can't

00:54:45.600 wait till

00:54:46.040 we can

00:54:46.400 hang out

00:54:46.780 again soon

00:54:47.440 I'll be

00:54:48.320 in

00:54:48.480 Coeur d'Alene

00:54:49.020 624

00:54:50.980 to 74

00:54:52.620 hopefully

00:54:53.540 we can

00:54:53.960 find a

00:54:54.420 time

00:54:54.740 then

00:54:55.100 I love

00:54:56.260 your birthday

00:54:56.680 card that

00:54:57.160 you sent

00:54:57.520 me by the

00:54:57.960 way

00:54:58.220 maybe we

00:54:58.820 can see

00:54:59.240 a concert

00:54:59.840 sometime

00:55:00.240 soon

00:55:00.760 I'd love

00:55:01.900 to see

00:55:02.220 the gorge

00:55:02.700 when it's

00:55:03.100 not so

00:55:03.460 smoky out

00:55:04.180 I hope

00:55:05.320 you're doing

00:55:05.680 well

00:55:06.080 I'm proud

00:55:07.520 of how far

00:55:08.040 you've come

00:55:08.620 thank you

00:55:10.160 for always

00:55:10.620 encouraging

00:55:11.100 me to

00:55:11.540 do my

00:55:11.900 best

00:55:12.400 love you

00:55:13.840 lots and

00:55:14.320 lots

00:55:14.680 love

00:55:15.200 Maddie

00:55:15.540 May

00:55:15.820 she did

00:55:17.560 encourage

00:55:17.940 me to

00:55:18.420 not just

00:55:20.140 to do

00:55:20.480 my best

00:55:20.900 but to

00:55:21.280 live on

00:55:21.800 I went

00:55:23.420 through a

00:55:23.840 lot of

00:55:24.340 issues with

00:55:27.360 addiction

00:55:27.760 and with

00:55:28.580 substance

00:55:30.760 abuse

00:55:31.340 and when

00:55:33.940 I wasn't

00:55:34.520 wanting to

00:55:35.000 live anymore

00:55:35.740 she was

00:55:37.380 what would

00:55:38.020 keep me

00:55:38.660 from

00:55:41.000 just

00:55:42.240 not

00:55:43.460 caring

00:55:43.780 anymore

00:55:44.260 and

00:55:44.880 knowing

00:55:45.840 that she

00:55:46.260 was out

00:55:46.760 there

00:55:46.980 and that

00:55:47.280 she was

00:55:47.560 such a

00:55:48.760 beautiful

00:55:49.080 person

00:55:50.340 kept me

00:55:51.140 alive

00:55:51.460 a lot

00:55:51.800 of

00:55:52.740 rough

00:55:54.380 moments

00:55:54.920 and

00:55:55.320 I'm

00:55:59.360 so glad

00:55:59.920 she was

00:56:01.760 able to

00:56:02.080 meet

00:56:02.280 Jake

00:56:02.720 he was

00:56:03.320 the only

00:56:04.000 one that

00:56:04.340 actually ever

00:56:05.740 got to

00:56:06.040 take her

00:56:06.320 to the

00:56:06.640 gorge

00:56:07.040 they went

00:56:08.440 and saw

00:56:08.700 water shed

00:56:09.200 together

00:56:09.600 and

00:56:09.900 yeah

00:56:11.860 they

00:56:12.180 had a

00:56:12.860 heck

00:56:13.020 of a

00:56:13.220 time

00:56:13.600 I'm

00:56:15.660 glad

00:56:16.480 she got

00:56:16.840 to

00:56:17.020 that's a

00:56:17.440 really

00:56:17.580 special

00:56:17.940 place

00:56:18.300 for me

00:56:18.600 and I

00:56:18.800 always

00:56:18.960 wanted

00:56:19.240 to work

00:56:20.260 out there

00:56:20.660 with me

00:56:21.040 in the

00:56:21.380 summer

00:56:21.620 sometime

00:56:22.280 and she

00:56:24.340 never got

00:56:24.780 to but

00:56:25.280 at least

00:56:25.900 she got

00:56:26.180 to see

00:56:26.520 it once

00:56:26.900 with Jake

00:56:27.380 he was

00:56:27.800 such a

00:56:28.120 great

00:56:28.280 guy

00:56:28.600 he is

00:56:29.180 such a

00:56:29.640 great

00:56:29.800 guy

00:56:30.100 and I

00:56:31.480 really

00:56:31.900 wanted

00:56:32.220 to see

00:56:32.640 what

00:56:32.880 a future

00:56:33.660 with them

00:56:34.200 would have

00:56:34.600 looked

00:56:34.780 like

00:56:35.320 I

00:56:44.260 I

00:56:44.480 I

00:56:49.600 never

00:56:49.840 I'll never

00:56:55.420 be able

00:56:55.760 to

00:56:56.000 replace

00:56:58.680 right now

00:56:59.220 I wrote

00:57:00.560 a bunch

00:57:00.840 of stuff

00:57:01.220 I don't

00:57:02.420 I just

00:57:03.000 don't know

00:57:03.320 what to

00:57:03.640 say right

00:57:04.020 now

00:57:04.220 except

00:57:04.640 I just

00:57:05.080 miss her

00:57:05.440 so much

00:57:05.860 and I

00:57:06.120 just

00:57:06.400 suffer

00:57:07.280 more than

00:57:09.360 anything

00:57:09.780 and

00:57:10.580 it

00:57:13.480 shouldn't

00:57:13.820 happen

00:57:14.220 and

00:57:14.500 you know

00:57:16.820 a death

00:57:19.020 sentence

00:57:19.340 is one

00:57:20.500 thing

00:57:20.880 you know

00:57:21.300 you know

00:57:21.640 when it's

00:57:22.400 going to

00:57:22.640 happen

00:57:22.900 and you

00:57:23.980 know

00:57:24.100 it's going

00:57:24.460 to be

00:57:24.660 all gentle

00:57:25.200 and stuff

00:57:25.740 you know

00:57:26.460 life without

00:57:27.200 parole

00:57:27.520 with a

00:57:28.180 room

00:57:28.780 building

00:57:29.480 full of

00:57:29.840 people

00:57:30.060 that all

00:57:30.580 just want

00:57:31.860 you to

00:57:32.300 not be

00:57:33.740 around

00:57:34.160 anymore

00:57:34.660 winking

00:57:35.800 at

00:57:36.100 every

00:57:36.800 morning

00:57:37.120 not

00:57:37.400 knowing

00:57:37.620 if that's

00:57:38.000 the day

00:57:38.180 they're

00:57:38.360 going to

00:57:38.560 pull your

00:57:38.920 card

00:57:39.200 I mean

00:57:39.500 that's

00:57:39.980 it's not

00:57:40.560 a very

00:57:40.820 nice

00:57:41.160 sentence

00:57:42.180 either

00:57:42.540 so

00:57:42.940 you know

00:57:46.580 I don't

00:57:47.440 I don't know

00:57:50.240 I just love you

00:57:51.360 Maddie

00:57:51.680 and I wish

00:57:52.760 you were still

00:57:53.180 here

00:57:53.420 thank you

00:57:55.340 thank you

00:57:55.360 so much

00:57:55.780 your honor

00:58:05.420 next would

00:58:06.000 be members

00:58:06.480 from the

00:58:06.860 Kaylee

00:58:07.120 Gonsalves

00:58:07.680 family

00:58:08.200 first will

00:58:09.480 be her

00:58:10.060 father

00:58:10.560 Steve

00:58:11.100 Gonsalves

00:58:11.740 today we

00:58:30.260 are here

00:58:30.700 to finish

00:58:31.560 what you

00:58:32.020 started

00:58:32.420 today

00:58:35.800 you've

00:58:37.300 lost

00:58:37.540 control

00:58:38.020 today we

00:58:41.440 are here

00:58:41.820 to prove

00:58:42.300 to the

00:58:42.600 world

00:58:42.880 that you

00:58:43.520 picked

00:58:43.760 the wrong

00:58:44.140 families

00:58:44.660 the wrong

00:58:48.300 state

00:58:48.700 the wrong

00:58:49.680 police

00:58:50.000 officers

00:58:50.560 the wrong

00:58:52.280 community

00:58:52.780 you tried

00:58:55.320 to break

00:58:55.800 our community

00:58:56.720 apart

00:58:57.120 you tried

00:58:58.120 to plant

00:58:58.580 fear

00:58:59.040 you tried

00:58:59.900 to divide

00:59:00.400 us

00:59:00.740 you failed

00:59:01.760 instead

00:59:03.920 your actions

00:59:04.580 have united

00:59:05.160 everyone

00:59:05.760 in their

00:59:06.460 disgust

00:59:07.000 for you

00:59:07.800 I just

00:59:10.180 learned from

00:59:10.600 these lead

00:59:11.080 investigators

00:59:11.700 to their

00:59:13.460 shock

00:59:13.860 they worked

00:59:15.760 in an

00:59:16.340 investigation

00:59:16.880 and actually

00:59:18.040 worked with

00:59:19.360 Pennsylvania

00:59:20.100 police officers

00:59:21.240 and the

00:59:22.120 federal FBI

00:59:22.780 you united

00:59:24.280 everyone

00:59:24.800 everyone

00:59:25.940 was united

00:59:26.580 after you

00:59:27.400 none of us

00:59:30.980 are divided

00:59:31.460 we are united

00:59:35.560 in our

00:59:35.920 disgust

00:59:36.560 and our

00:59:39.120 love

00:59:39.440 for these

00:59:40.000 children

00:59:40.340 today you

00:59:43.240 have no

00:59:43.780 name

00:59:44.120 because when

00:59:47.000 this all

00:59:47.380 started we

00:59:47.820 all came

00:59:48.240 together and

00:59:48.800 we said

00:59:49.140 let's stop

00:59:49.680 even talking

00:59:50.300 about his

00:59:50.880 name just

00:59:51.520 use initials

00:59:53.620 so even

00:59:54.380 the media

00:59:54.840 just calls

00:59:55.380 you BK

00:59:56.000 that's all

00:59:57.460 you are

00:59:58.000 looking back

01:00:00.760 when the

01:00:01.040 police officers

01:00:01.720 knocked on

01:00:02.220 my door

01:00:02.720 told me

01:00:04.980 what happened

01:00:05.420 to my

01:00:05.700 child

01:00:06.040 told me

01:00:06.920 what happened

01:00:07.300 to Matty

01:00:07.640 May

01:00:07.800 I don't

01:00:09.960 think he

01:00:10.220 was even

01:00:10.580 out of the

01:00:10.940 driveway

01:00:11.280 before my

01:00:11.920 kids turned

01:00:12.380 around

01:00:12.640 looked at

01:00:13.080 me and

01:00:13.340 said

01:00:13.500 what do

01:00:14.260 we do

01:00:14.580 dad

01:00:14.900 I told

01:00:17.420 them

01:00:17.620 you get

01:00:19.000 to work

01:00:19.440 you get

01:00:21.300 your ass

01:00:21.680 to work

01:00:22.140 and we

01:00:23.200 started

01:00:23.460 calling

01:00:23.880 we started

01:00:24.700 texting

01:00:25.160 we started

01:00:25.900 emailing

01:00:26.640 and you know

01:00:27.960 what

01:00:28.260 within hours

01:00:29.780 within hours

01:00:31.000 we had your

01:00:32.160 white car

01:00:32.620 and the camera

01:00:33.060 we knew

01:00:34.500 we knew

01:00:35.340 from the

01:00:35.700 very beginning

01:00:36.320 we had

01:00:36.760 you

01:00:36.940 police

01:00:38.800 officers

01:00:39.200 tell us

01:00:39.680 welcome

01:00:39.700 everyone

01:00:40.020 this is

01:00:40.440 Megan

01:00:40.640 Kelly

01:00:40.940 we are

01:00:41.640 in live

01:00:42.240 coverage

01:00:42.640 here

01:00:42.980 of the

01:00:43.540 sentencing

01:00:43.940 hearing

01:00:44.240 for

01:00:44.620 Brian

01:00:45.160 Kohlberger

01:00:45.680 confessed

01:00:46.280 killer

01:00:46.580 of the

01:00:47.420 Idaho

01:00:47.680 four

01:00:48.020 and Steve

01:00:48.580 Gonsalves

01:00:49.120 is speaking

01:00:49.580 now

01:00:49.940 father

01:00:50.720 of

01:00:50.940 Kaylee

01:00:51.180 you're a

01:00:52.820 joke

01:00:53.100 complete

01:00:54.340 joke

01:00:54.800 but we

01:01:00.020 took this

01:01:00.420 disaster

01:01:00.940 and we

01:01:02.380 did what

01:01:02.700 we could

01:01:03.080 we put

01:01:05.340 everything

01:01:05.740 online

01:01:06.200 we took

01:01:06.600 our kids

01:01:07.020 we took

01:01:07.420 our images

01:01:07.860 we took

01:01:08.340 everything

01:01:08.760 that they

01:01:09.160 did

01:01:09.380 their videos

01:01:09.980 their photos

01:01:10.640 the girls

01:01:12.260 pranks

01:01:12.820 Ethan

01:01:14.320 singing

01:01:14.740 we put

01:01:15.860 it out

01:01:16.120 there

01:01:16.260 we shared

01:01:16.600 it with

01:01:16.860 the world

01:01:17.260 and the

01:01:18.980 world

01:01:19.200 united

01:01:19.680 and all

01:01:21.060 they ended

01:01:21.500 up

01:01:21.740 when they

01:01:22.640 talked

01:01:22.880 about

01:01:23.060 this

01:01:23.240 case

01:01:23.540 is they

01:01:24.800 talked

01:01:25.060 about

01:01:25.460 Kaylee

01:01:26.360 Jade

01:01:26.680 Maddie

01:01:27.520 May

01:01:27.760 Zanna

01:01:28.860 and Ethan

01:01:29.860 everything

01:01:34.700 what these

01:01:35.220 people meant

01:01:35.920 to us

01:01:37.040 a father

01:01:38.400 a mother

01:01:39.160 a brother

01:01:39.900 a sister

01:01:40.620 we shared

01:01:41.600 that with

01:01:41.940 our community

01:01:42.580 then we

01:01:44.100 shared it

01:01:44.360 with our

01:01:44.600 state

01:01:44.920 we shared

01:01:46.140 it with

01:01:46.360 the country

01:01:46.840 and eventually

01:01:47.900 we shared

01:01:48.320 it with

01:01:48.560 the world

01:01:48.960 the world's

01:01:50.820 watching

01:01:51.160 because of

01:01:51.800 the kids

01:01:52.240 not because

01:01:52.940 of you

01:01:53.220 nobody cares

01:01:54.840 about you

01:01:55.300 you're not

01:01:57.760 worth the time

01:01:58.360 the effort

01:01:59.160 to be

01:01:59.520 remembered

01:01:59.940 in time

01:02:02.880 you will be

01:02:03.320 nothing but

01:02:03.780 two initials

01:02:04.820 forgotten to

01:02:05.440 the wind

01:02:05.840 no visitors

01:02:06.760 nothing more

01:02:07.820 than initials

01:02:08.520 on an

01:02:08.820 otherwise

01:02:09.460 unmarked

01:02:10.720 tombstone

01:02:11.300 from this

01:02:14.260 moment

01:02:14.580 we've all

01:02:16.440 started

01:02:16.880 from this

01:02:24.000 moment

01:02:24.300 we will

01:02:24.940 forget you

01:02:25.480 we want

01:02:28.640 to

01:02:28.820 I'll leave

01:02:29.420 in closing

01:02:29.840 one last

01:02:30.680 thing

01:02:30.900 you picked

01:02:31.980 the wrong

01:02:32.320 family

01:02:32.780 and we're

01:02:34.280 laughing at

01:02:34.740 you on your

01:02:35.160 trip to

01:02:35.560 the pen

01:02:36.360 that will be

01:02:37.280 today

01:02:37.680 or tomorrow

01:02:38.800 I'll close

01:02:41.360 with

01:02:41.660 God bless

01:02:45.060 all the

01:02:45.440 men and

01:02:45.740 women

01:02:45.940 that worked

01:02:46.660 on this

01:02:46.960 case

01:02:47.280 and all

01:02:48.480 the hard

01:02:48.780 work that

01:02:49.120 you guys

01:02:49.500 did

01:02:49.780 you guys

01:02:53.080 allowed us

01:02:53.660 to grieve

01:02:54.480 and allowed

01:02:54.860 us to get

01:02:55.280 through this

01:02:55.720 the amount

01:02:56.940 of work

01:02:57.200 that you

01:02:57.480 guys put

01:02:57.880 together

01:02:58.200 and the

01:02:58.500 way that

01:02:58.780 you guys

01:02:59.120 put it

01:02:59.480 together

01:02:59.740 was beautiful

01:03:00.400 there was

01:03:01.640 hard times

01:03:02.220 to be

01:03:03.440 expected

01:03:03.840 but thank

01:03:05.300 you all

01:03:05.660 and God

01:03:06.540 bless

01:03:06.780 thank you

01:03:08.180 you're on

01:03:13.620 our next

01:03:13.980 is

01:03:14.320 Stephen

01:03:15.140 Gonzalves

01:03:15.840 Kaylee's

01:03:16.320 brother

01:03:16.900 Stephen's

01:03:22.820 actually

01:03:23.060 going to

01:03:23.320 pass

01:03:23.600 I'm

01:03:23.800 going to

01:03:23.960 go

01:03:24.140 Olivia

01:03:25.420 Gonzalves

01:03:26.080 Kaylee's

01:03:26.880 sister

01:03:27.160 hello

01:03:32.340 I'd like

01:03:32.940 to start

01:03:33.320 by thanking

01:03:33.760 the court

01:03:34.180 for allowing

01:03:34.800 me the

01:03:35.140 time and

01:03:35.500 opportunity

01:03:35.980 to speak

01:03:36.520 today

01:03:36.840 my name

01:03:38.040 is Olivia

01:03:38.480 and I'm

01:03:39.280 the big

01:03:39.580 sister

01:03:39.940 of Kaylee

01:03:40.360 Gonzalves

01:03:40.980 and I was

01:03:41.660 blessed to

01:03:42.120 love Madison

01:03:42.640 Mogan

01:03:42.920 as a sister

01:03:43.580 too

01:03:43.900 I'm not

01:03:45.120 here today

01:03:45.620 to speak

01:03:46.100 in grief

01:03:46.600 I'm here

01:03:47.160 to speak

01:03:47.560 in truth

01:03:48.140 because the

01:03:49.400 truth is

01:03:50.020 my sister

01:03:50.960 Kaylee

01:03:51.340 and her

01:03:51.660 best friend

01:03:52.160 Maddie

01:03:52.500 were not

01:03:53.280 yours to

01:03:53.840 take

01:03:54.220 they were

01:03:55.940 not yours

01:03:56.420 to study

01:03:57.120 to stalk

01:03:58.040 or to

01:03:58.600 silence

01:03:59.220 they were

01:04:01.300 two pieces

01:04:01.840 of a

01:04:02.180 whole

01:04:02.400 the perfect

01:04:03.180 yin and

01:04:03.600 yang

01:04:03.840 they are

01:04:05.000 everything

01:04:05.560 that you

01:04:06.120 could never

01:04:06.580 be

01:04:06.960 loved

01:04:08.200 accepted

01:04:09.200 vibrant

01:04:10.360 accomplished

01:04:11.760 brave

01:04:12.680 and powerful

01:04:13.760 because the

01:04:15.260 truth about

01:04:16.180 Kaylee and

01:04:16.680 Maddie

01:04:16.960 is they

01:04:17.760 would have

01:04:18.060 been kind

01:04:18.560 to you

01:04:18.960 if you

01:04:20.040 would approach

01:04:20.480 them in

01:04:20.900 their everyday

01:04:21.420 lives

01:04:22.000 they would

01:04:22.640 have given

01:04:23.000 you directions

01:04:23.720 thanked you

01:04:24.820 for the

01:04:25.140 compliment

01:04:25.620 or awkwardly

01:04:26.900 giggled

01:04:27.320 to make

01:04:27.920 your own

01:04:28.700 words

01:04:29.160 less

01:04:29.780 uncomfortable

01:04:30.280 for you

01:04:31.500 in a world

01:04:33.220 that rejected

01:04:33.980 you

01:04:34.340 they would

01:04:35.220 have shown

01:04:35.840 mercy

01:04:36.300 because the

01:04:38.120 truth is

01:04:38.820 I'm angry

01:04:40.600 every day

01:04:42.640 I'm angry

01:04:43.740 I'm left

01:04:45.220 shouting

01:04:45.820 at the inside

01:04:46.920 of my own

01:04:47.720 head

01:04:48.080 everything

01:04:48.980 I wish

01:04:49.900 I could

01:04:50.220 say to you

01:04:50.840 the truth

01:04:52.620 about me

01:04:53.320 is when I

01:04:54.820 heard the

01:04:55.200 news

01:04:55.560 I didn't

01:04:56.520 cry

01:04:56.880 I listened

01:04:57.960 for them

01:04:58.520 I promised

01:04:59.820 them I

01:05:00.260 would

01:05:00.540 that I

01:05:01.440 would fight

01:05:01.880 for them

01:05:02.340 that I

01:05:03.280 would show

01:05:03.740 up no

01:05:04.320 matter what

01:05:04.940 it cost

01:05:05.440 me

01:05:05.740 I swore

01:05:07.740 I'd never

01:05:08.400 let them

01:05:08.880 feel alone

01:05:09.540 because you

01:05:10.980 see I've

01:05:11.940 always been

01:05:12.500 their heavyweight

01:05:13.260 I've always

01:05:14.680 been the one

01:05:15.220 to fight

01:05:15.540 the battles

01:05:16.040 they didn't

01:05:16.520 feel ready

01:05:16.940 to fight

01:05:17.360 themselves

01:05:17.860 all it

01:05:19.040 ever took

01:05:19.440 was a

01:05:19.740 call

01:05:20.060 and they

01:05:21.020 knew I

01:05:21.340 would handle

01:05:21.780 it for

01:05:22.160 them

01:05:22.460 no matter

01:05:23.160 the time

01:05:23.720 no matter

01:05:24.640 the cost

01:05:25.140 they could

01:05:26.560 wave their

01:05:27.060 white flag

01:05:27.800 because they

01:05:28.660 knew I

01:05:29.520 would never

01:05:29.980 back down

01:05:30.660 not for

01:05:31.480 them

01:05:31.780 and not

01:05:33.440 even death

01:05:34.020 could change

01:05:34.600 that

01:05:35.020 somewhere

01:05:37.340 along the

01:05:37.900 line I

01:05:38.720 started to

01:05:39.200 think about

01:05:39.600 what I

01:05:39.880 would say

01:05:40.180 to them

01:05:40.560 if I was

01:05:41.100 given just

01:05:41.660 one last

01:05:42.280 chance

01:05:42.800 if I could

01:05:44.700 gather enough

01:05:45.220 heartbreak

01:05:45.740 or love

01:05:46.320 or sacrifice

01:05:47.080 or whatever

01:05:47.720 it took

01:05:48.160 to get

01:05:48.620 just one

01:05:49.140 message

01:05:49.500 across

01:05:49.980 what would

01:05:51.480 I say

01:05:51.960 throughout

01:05:54.260 this entire

01:05:54.920 process

01:05:55.460 I've

01:05:57.320 written my

01:05:57.860 feelings down

01:05:58.560 at every

01:05:58.960 moment

01:05:59.360 my wishes

01:06:00.300 my love

01:06:01.120 my denial

01:06:01.800 my anger

01:06:02.520 and as one

01:06:04.040 final act

01:06:04.600 of love

01:06:05.020 I'd planned

01:06:06.160 to read

01:06:06.720 these thoughts

01:06:07.640 even jarring

01:06:08.740 and discombobulating

01:06:09.820 and not even

01:06:10.520 making sense

01:06:11.360 because for me

01:06:12.980 that was true

01:06:13.640 love

01:06:14.040 as bare

01:06:15.620 and as

01:06:16.120 naked

01:06:16.540 as it

01:06:17.320 could be

01:06:17.760 not laced

01:06:19.180 in pretty

01:06:19.640 words

01:06:20.040 or dressed

01:06:20.480 for the

01:06:20.780 occasion

01:06:21.180 but written

01:06:22.400 through bleary

01:06:23.020 eyes at

01:06:23.520 2am

01:06:23.980 with clenched

01:06:25.000 fists

01:06:25.560 angry

01:06:26.260 at this

01:06:27.000 reality

01:06:27.480 my true

01:06:29.380 final act

01:06:29.960 of love

01:06:30.440 was to

01:06:31.380 continue

01:06:31.820 on without

01:06:32.460 them

01:06:32.900 for them

01:06:34.300 that dream

01:06:36.800 to read

01:06:37.180 aloud

01:06:37.520 my love

01:06:39.600 to them

01:06:39.980 to bring

01:06:41.440 meaning

01:06:41.800 through pain

01:06:42.480 was the

01:06:44.640 latest blow

01:06:45.260 in realizing

01:06:45.920 you don't

01:06:48.360 deserve it

01:06:49.000 and Kaylee

01:06:50.520 and Maddie

01:06:51.020 don't need

01:06:51.800 it

01:06:52.260 Kaylee

01:06:53.180 and Maddie

01:06:53.620 have always

01:06:54.380 known my

01:06:54.860 love

01:06:55.260 and they

01:06:56.180 would never

01:06:56.760 ask me

01:06:57.660 to prove

01:06:58.140 it

01:06:58.380 by further

01:06:59.200 victimizing

01:06:59.940 myself

01:07:00.440 to a

01:07:01.180 defendant

01:07:01.540 who has

01:07:02.020 shown

01:07:02.280 no guilt

01:07:03.340 no remorse

01:07:04.680 no apprehension

01:07:06.200 they would

01:07:08.000 say to me

01:07:08.620 why would

01:07:10.080 you give

01:07:10.360 the satisfaction

01:07:11.140 of showing

01:07:12.300 vulnerability

01:07:12.840 now

01:07:13.420 you promised

01:07:14.900 you would

01:07:15.580 never

01:07:15.860 back down

01:07:16.600 and for

01:07:18.020 that clarity

01:07:18.560 I'm thankful

01:07:19.160 I won't

01:07:20.900 stand here

01:07:21.400 and give you

01:07:21.740 what you

01:07:22.060 want

01:07:22.360 I won't

01:07:23.220 offer you

01:07:23.640 tears

01:07:24.020 I won't

01:07:24.460 offer you

01:07:24.880 trembling

01:07:25.360 disappointments

01:07:27.020 like you

01:07:27.400 thrive on

01:07:27.940 pain

01:07:28.340 on fear

01:07:29.500 and on

01:07:29.920 the illusion

01:07:30.440 of power

01:07:31.000 and I

01:07:32.880 won't

01:07:33.180 feed your

01:07:33.600 beast

01:07:34.120 instead

01:07:36.680 I will

01:07:37.760 call you

01:07:38.120 what you

01:07:38.440 are

01:07:38.860 sociopath

01:07:40.620 psychopath

01:07:41.820 murderer

01:07:43.340 I will

01:07:45.260 ask the

01:07:45.660 questions

01:07:46.180 that

01:07:46.820 reverberate

01:07:47.640 violently

01:07:48.240 in my

01:07:48.780 own head

01:07:49.340 so loudly

01:07:51.000 that I

01:07:51.740 can't think

01:07:52.400 straight most

01:07:53.160 any day

01:07:53.720 some of

01:07:55.240 these might

01:07:55.600 be familiar

01:07:56.200 so sit up

01:07:57.120 straight when

01:07:57.640 I talk

01:07:57.980 to you

01:07:58.380 how was

01:08:00.500 your life

01:08:01.060 right before

01:08:01.820 you murdered

01:08:02.320 my sisters

01:08:03.040 did you

01:08:05.320 prepare for

01:08:05.860 the crime

01:08:06.320 before leaving

01:08:07.000 your apartment

01:08:07.600 please detail

01:08:08.980 what you

01:08:09.300 were thinking

01:08:09.800 and feeling

01:08:10.800 at this

01:08:11.220 time

01:08:11.560 why did

01:08:13.860 you choose

01:08:14.280 my sisters

01:08:14.940 before

01:08:16.820 making your

01:08:17.880 move

01:08:18.280 did you

01:08:19.260 approach

01:08:19.580 my sisters

01:08:20.280 detail what

01:08:21.680 you were

01:08:21.900 thinking

01:08:22.160 and feeling

01:08:22.700 before leaving

01:08:24.720 their home

01:08:25.240 is there

01:08:25.780 anything else

01:08:26.420 you did

01:08:26.820 how does

01:08:28.720 it feel

01:08:29.220 to know

01:08:29.820 the only

01:08:30.580 thing you

01:08:31.180 failed

01:08:31.480 more miserably

01:08:32.700 at than

01:08:33.580 being a

01:08:34.080 murderer

01:08:34.420 is trying

01:08:35.440 to be a

01:08:35.880 rapper

01:08:36.240 did you

01:08:38.960 recently

01:08:39.300 start

01:08:39.720 shaving

01:08:40.140 or

01:08:40.720 manually

01:08:41.180 pulling

01:08:41.660 out

01:08:41.880 your

01:08:42.040 eyebrows

01:08:42.620 why

01:08:45.040 November

01:08:45.440 13th

01:08:46.700 did you

01:08:48.560 truly think

01:08:49.220 your Amazon

01:08:49.740 purchase

01:08:50.260 was untraceable

01:08:51.220 because you

01:08:51.860 used a gift

01:08:52.560 card

01:08:52.940 how do you

01:08:55.060 find it

01:08:55.400 enjoyable

01:08:55.840 to stargaze

01:08:56.680 with such a

01:08:57.260 severe case

01:08:57.920 of visual

01:08:58.380 snow

01:08:58.760 where is

01:09:00.940 the murder

01:09:01.400 weapon

01:09:01.880 the clothes

01:09:03.080 you wore

01:09:03.400 that night

01:09:03.940 what did

01:09:06.820 you bring

01:09:07.160 into the

01:09:07.540 house

01:09:07.760 with you

01:09:08.240 what was

01:09:10.140 the second

01:09:10.640 weapon

01:09:11.020 you used

01:09:11.620 on Kaylee

01:09:12.140 what were

01:09:13.960 Kaylee's

01:09:14.580 last words

01:09:15.780 please

01:09:17.800 describe

01:09:18.500 in detail

01:09:19.680 the level

01:09:20.720 of anxiety

01:09:21.480 you must

01:09:22.000 have felt

01:09:22.480 when you

01:09:23.140 heard the

01:09:23.540 bear cat

01:09:24.200 pull up

01:09:24.640 to your

01:09:24.960 family home

01:09:25.760 on December

01:09:26.800 30th

01:09:27.920 2022

01:09:28.600 which do

01:09:31.220 you regret

01:09:31.560 more

01:09:31.860 returning

01:09:33.520 to the

01:09:33.900 crime scene

01:09:34.420 five hours

01:09:35.040 later

01:09:35.420 or never

01:09:36.940 ever

01:09:37.900 going back

01:09:38.980 to Moscow

01:09:39.560 not even

01:09:40.620 once

01:09:41.160 after stalking

01:09:43.380 them there

01:09:43.800 for months

01:09:44.480 if you

01:09:46.900 were really

01:09:47.240 smart

01:09:47.700 do you think

01:09:48.520 you'd be here

01:09:49.000 right now

01:09:49.460 what's it

01:09:51.480 like

01:09:51.820 needing this

01:09:52.680 much attention

01:09:53.400 just to

01:09:54.520 feel real

01:09:55.100 you're terrified

01:09:57.660 of being

01:09:58.120 ordinary

01:09:58.640 aren't you

01:09:59.400 do you

01:10:02.940 feel anything

01:10:03.500 at all

01:10:04.000 or are you

01:10:05.820 exactly

01:10:06.380 what you

01:10:06.800 always feared

01:10:07.460 nothing

01:10:08.800 if you're

01:10:11.200 so powerful

01:10:11.900 then why

01:10:12.380 are you

01:10:12.600 still hiding

01:10:13.240 defendant

01:10:13.920 you see

01:10:15.460 I'm here

01:10:15.880 today

01:10:16.140 as me

01:10:16.660 but who

01:10:19.120 are you

01:10:19.520 let's try

01:10:21.040 to take

01:10:21.400 off your

01:10:21.740 mask

01:10:22.060 and see

01:10:22.500 you didn't

01:10:24.760 create

01:10:25.120 devastation

01:10:25.960 you revealed

01:10:27.140 it in

01:10:27.500 yourself

01:10:28.180 and that

01:10:29.380 darkness

01:10:29.740 you carry

01:10:30.320 that emptiness

01:10:31.080 you'll sit

01:10:32.260 with it

01:10:32.640 long after

01:10:33.160 this is

01:10:33.620 over

01:10:33.940 that

01:10:35.140 is your

01:10:35.660 sentence

01:10:36.000 and it

01:10:36.940 was written

01:10:37.320 on the

01:10:37.680 wall

01:10:37.920 long before

01:10:39.140 you ever

01:10:39.520 pled guilty

01:10:40.340 you didn't

01:10:45.020 win

01:10:45.320 you just

01:10:46.060 exposed

01:10:46.620 yourself

01:10:47.080 as the

01:10:47.420 coward

01:10:47.720 you are

01:10:48.240 you're

01:10:49.020 a delusional

01:10:49.820 pathetic

01:10:50.620 hypochondriac

01:10:52.280 loser

01:10:52.960 who thought

01:10:54.240 you were

01:10:54.500 so much

01:10:55.120 smarter

01:10:55.540 than

01:10:55.840 everybody

01:10:56.260 else

01:10:56.820 constantly

01:11:00.540 scolding

01:11:01.300 turning your

01:11:02.180 nose up

01:11:02.640 to grammar

01:11:03.040 mistakes

01:11:03.520 nitpicking

01:11:04.140 and criticizing

01:11:04.880 others

01:11:05.480 you wanted

01:11:06.760 so badly

01:11:07.600 to be

01:11:07.980 different

01:11:08.460 to be

01:11:09.120 special

01:11:09.560 to be

01:11:09.920 better

01:11:10.340 to be

01:11:10.780 deep

01:11:11.200 to be

01:11:11.760 mysterious

01:11:12.340 you found

01:11:13.780 yourself

01:11:14.160 thinking

01:11:14.580 you were

01:11:14.920 better

01:11:15.260 than

01:11:15.500 everyone

01:11:15.820 else

01:11:16.240 and you

01:11:16.880 thought

01:11:17.100 you could

01:11:17.440 figure out

01:11:17.880 the human

01:11:18.320 psyche

01:11:18.720 and see

01:11:19.140 through it

01:11:19.680 all while

01:11:20.160 tweaked out

01:11:20.720 on heroin

01:11:21.260 lurking in

01:11:23.260 the shadows

01:11:23.720 made you

01:11:24.180 feel powerful

01:11:24.900 because no

01:11:25.900 one ever

01:11:26.220 paid you

01:11:26.640 any attention

01:11:27.160 in the light

01:11:27.760 you thought

01:11:29.140 you were

01:11:29.400 exceptional

01:11:29.940 all because

01:11:30.620 of a grade

01:11:31.100 on a paper

01:11:31.760 you thought

01:11:33.940 you were

01:11:34.240 elite

01:11:34.620 because your

01:11:35.180 online IQ

01:11:35.840 test

01:11:36.280 from 2010

01:11:37.060 told you

01:11:37.780 so

01:11:38.060 all of

01:11:40.000 that effort

01:11:40.440 just to

01:11:40.940 seem

01:11:41.160 important

01:11:41.700 it's

01:11:42.540 desperate

01:11:43.040 there is

01:11:44.520 a name

01:11:44.900 for your

01:11:45.260 condition

01:11:45.700 though

01:11:45.980 your inflated

01:11:46.800 ego

01:11:47.100 just didn't

01:11:47.540 allow you

01:11:47.880 to see

01:11:48.140 it

01:11:48.420 wannabe

01:11:49.880 you act

01:11:52.780 like no

01:11:53.160 one could

01:11:53.420 ever

01:11:53.600 understand

01:11:54.020 your mind

01:11:54.540 but the

01:11:55.260 truth is

01:11:55.760 you're

01:11:55.960 basic

01:11:56.660 you're

01:11:57.800 a textbook

01:11:58.260 case of

01:11:58.820 insecurity

01:11:59.320 disguised as

01:12:00.060 control

01:12:00.480 your patterns

01:12:01.580 are predictable

01:12:02.340 your motives

01:12:03.360 are shallow

01:12:04.040 you are not

01:12:05.620 profound

01:12:06.420 you're

01:12:07.020 pathetic

01:12:07.580 you aren't

01:12:10.560 special

01:12:11.100 or deep

01:12:12.100 not mysterious

01:12:13.060 or exceptional

01:12:14.140 don't ever

01:12:15.680 get it

01:12:16.480 twisted

01:12:16.840 again

01:12:17.320 no one

01:12:19.620 is scared

01:12:20.020 of you

01:12:20.300 today

01:12:20.620 no one

01:12:21.480 is intimidated

01:12:22.020 by you

01:12:22.680 no one

01:12:23.220 is impressed

01:12:23.720 by you

01:12:24.340 no one

01:12:25.200 thinks that

01:12:25.740 you are

01:12:26.140 important

01:12:26.660 you orchestrated

01:12:28.720 this like you

01:12:29.400 thought you

01:12:29.740 were god

01:12:30.240 now look at

01:12:31.460 you begging

01:12:32.440 a courtroom

01:12:33.020 for scraps

01:12:33.980 you spent

01:12:35.740 months preparing

01:12:36.540 and still all it

01:12:37.740 took was my

01:12:38.280 sister in a

01:12:38.960 sheath

01:12:39.300 you work so

01:12:40.840 hard to seem

01:12:41.460 dangerous

01:12:42.140 but real

01:12:43.740 control doesn't

01:12:44.380 have to prove

01:12:44.920 itself

01:12:45.320 the truth

01:12:48.840 is

01:12:49.220 the scariest

01:12:50.960 part about

01:12:51.540 you

01:12:51.820 is how

01:12:52.460 painfully

01:12:53.000 average

01:12:53.500 you turned

01:12:54.060 out to be

01:12:54.640 the truth

01:12:56.180 is

01:12:56.540 as dumb

01:12:57.700 as they

01:12:58.060 come

01:12:58.400 stupid

01:12:59.960 clumsy

01:13:00.740 slow

01:13:01.880 sloppy

01:13:02.780 weak

01:13:03.840 dirty

01:13:04.880 let me

01:13:07.180 be very

01:13:07.740 clear

01:13:08.180 don't ever

01:13:09.940 try to convince

01:13:10.580 yourself you

01:13:11.200 mattered

01:13:11.600 just because

01:13:12.640 someone finally

01:13:13.540 said your name

01:13:14.180 out loud

01:13:14.740 I see

01:13:16.160 through you

01:13:16.900 you want the

01:13:18.920 truth

01:13:19.260 here's the one

01:13:20.560 you'll hate

01:13:20.900 the most

01:13:21.520 if you hadn't

01:13:22.800 attacked them

01:13:23.600 in their sleep

01:13:24.540 in the middle

01:13:25.660 of the night

01:13:26.200 like a pedophile

01:13:27.520 Kaylee would

01:13:28.740 have kicked

01:13:29.140 your fucking

01:13:29.860 ass

01:13:30.340 thank you

01:13:31.780 thank you

01:13:32.620 next is

01:13:56.220 Christy

01:13:56.560 Gonsalves

01:13:57.160 Kaylee

01:13:57.560 Gonsalves

01:13:58.080 mother

01:13:58.560 just relax

01:14:15.380 thank you

01:14:16.600 thank you

01:14:27.480 your honor

01:14:27.800 I never

01:14:31.100 imagined

01:14:31.680 having to

01:14:32.400 speak to

01:14:32.840 someone so

01:14:33.580 devoid of

01:14:34.100 humanity

01:14:34.620 for a long

01:14:37.580 time

01:14:37.960 I didn't

01:14:38.660 think I

01:14:39.020 find the

01:14:39.480 words

01:14:39.860 low enough

01:14:40.440 to meet

01:14:40.780 you

01:14:40.920 where you

01:14:41.260 are

01:14:41.580 but now

01:14:43.640 I realize

01:14:44.260 this isn't

01:14:44.960 about you

01:14:45.580 it's about

01:14:47.200 what you've

01:14:47.620 done to me

01:14:48.220 and I need

01:14:49.100 you to

01:14:49.360 hear it

01:14:49.880 when you

01:14:53.020 murdered my

01:14:53.600 daughter

01:14:54.020 Kaylee

01:14:55.200 Jade

01:14:55.480 Gonsalves

01:14:55.960 you didn't

01:14:57.380 just take

01:14:57.820 her life

01:14:58.360 you shattered

01:14:59.580 others

01:15:00.080 you attacked

01:15:01.860 what you

01:15:02.320 could never

01:15:02.740 be

01:15:03.140 and in

01:15:03.840 doing so

01:15:04.440 you left

01:15:05.300 a trail

01:15:05.700 of devastation

01:15:06.440 far beyond

01:15:07.140 that house

01:15:07.820 you stole

01:15:09.800 my peace

01:15:10.520 you've

01:15:12.600 altered my

01:15:13.100 every waking

01:15:13.720 moment

01:15:14.160 every sleepless

01:15:15.520 night

01:15:15.920 the way I

01:15:17.000 view the

01:15:17.300 world

01:15:17.640 people

01:15:18.220 safety

01:15:18.940 trust

01:15:19.600 it's all

01:15:20.740 been changed

01:15:21.280 by your

01:15:21.700 your cruelty

01:15:22.760 I no longer

01:15:25.140 recognize parts

01:15:25.980 of myself

01:15:26.820 joy is harder

01:15:27.920 to find

01:15:28.500 laughter feels

01:15:29.580 foreign

01:15:29.980 the world

01:15:31.240 world moves

01:15:32.160 forward

01:15:32.580 but I'm

01:15:33.240 suspended in

01:15:33.880 places sorrow

01:15:34.620 and rage

01:15:35.300 you've taken

01:15:36.640 from me

01:15:37.060 something that

01:15:37.580 can never

01:15:37.980 be restored

01:15:38.700 the grief

01:15:39.680 sits with me

01:15:40.280 every day

01:15:40.880 some days

01:15:41.540 quietly

01:15:42.040 and other

01:15:43.100 days so loud

01:15:43.760 it drowns

01:15:44.240 out everything

01:15:44.740 else

01:15:45.200 the emotional

01:15:47.020 toll you've

01:15:47.500 inflicted on me

01:15:48.180 is immeasurable

01:15:48.840 I live with

01:15:50.180 a constant

01:15:50.620 ache

01:15:51.000 with birthdays

01:15:52.040 that are

01:15:52.520 now memorials

01:15:53.620 with holidays

01:15:55.240 that feel

01:15:55.760 hollow

01:15:56.160 with empty

01:15:57.980 chairs that

01:15:58.800 scream louder

01:15:59.380 than words

01:15:59.980 ever could

01:16:00.560 I am

01:16:02.000 forever

01:16:02.320 changed

01:16:03.000 but for you

01:16:05.000 as a person

01:16:06.480 working on a

01:16:07.060 PhD in

01:16:08.160 criminal justice

01:16:08.840 you really

01:16:10.240 didn't think

01:16:10.700 this one

01:16:11.060 through

01:16:11.360 you're not

01:16:12.540 that good

01:16:13.100 in fact

01:16:14.540 you're not

01:16:15.000 that good

01:16:15.400 at anything

01:16:16.140 you couldn't

01:16:18.000 secure a job

01:16:18.820 you couldn't

01:16:20.560 get along

01:16:21.200 with others

01:16:21.820 you couldn't

01:16:23.420 even get a

01:16:23.860 female to

01:16:24.320 look in your

01:16:24.700 direction

01:16:25.200 all because

01:16:26.780 you are

01:16:27.380 pathetic

01:16:28.120 now you're

01:16:32.920 a joke

01:16:33.300 in this

01:16:33.700 courtroom

01:16:34.120 I wish

01:16:35.760 I could

01:16:36.020 crown you

01:16:37.600 with a

01:16:38.160 jester hat

01:16:38.760 to complete

01:16:39.400 your orange

01:16:39.860 jumpsuit

01:16:40.420 clown look

01:16:41.700 a dead

01:16:44.400 killer

01:16:44.740 doesn't

01:16:45.400 kill again

01:16:45.960 so while

01:16:46.780 I'm

01:16:46.900 disappointed

01:16:47.420 the firing

01:16:47.960 shot won't

01:16:48.480 get to

01:16:48.760 take their

01:16:49.080 shots at

01:16:49.520 you

01:16:49.700 I'm

01:16:50.400 confident

01:16:50.840 that the

01:16:51.260 men in

01:16:51.540 prison

01:16:51.760 will

01:16:52.100 have

01:16:52.860 their

01:16:53.020 way

01:16:53.200 with

01:16:53.400 you

01:16:53.580 in

01:16:53.920 more

01:16:54.120 ways

01:16:54.360 than

01:16:54.540 one

01:16:54.860 you

01:16:56.020 will

01:16:56.160 finally

01:16:56.440 get

01:16:56.760 what

01:16:56.980 you

01:16:57.100 wanted

01:16:57.480 physical

01:16:58.520 touch

01:16:59.020 just

01:17:00.320 probably

01:17:00.600 not

01:17:00.800 how

01:17:01.000 you

01:17:01.180 were

01:17:01.340 expecting

01:17:01.740 it

01:17:02.160 see

01:17:03.340 you

01:17:03.500 haven't

01:17:03.740 beat

01:17:03.920 the

01:17:04.120 system

01:17:04.500 you've

01:17:05.640 simply

01:17:05.920 entered

01:17:06.200 a new

01:17:06.480 one

01:17:06.800 where

01:17:07.680 the

01:17:07.860 rules

01:17:08.120 are

01:17:08.300 cruel

01:17:08.580 and

01:17:08.820 the

01:17:08.960 consequences

01:17:09.420 will

01:17:09.720 never

01:17:10.180 end

01:17:10.620 you

01:17:16.660 are

01:17:16.820 entering

01:17:17.100 a

01:17:17.360 place

01:17:17.680 where

01:17:17.920 no

01:17:18.100 one

01:17:18.260 will

01:17:18.440 care

01:17:18.640 who

01:17:18.840 you

01:17:19.000 are

01:17:19.220 and

01:17:19.480 no

01:17:19.660 one

01:17:19.800 will

01:17:19.980 ever

01:17:20.340 respect

01:17:20.840 you

01:17:21.100 you

01:17:21.920 will

01:17:22.060 be

01:17:22.260 forgotten

01:17:22.740 discarded

01:17:23.620 used

01:17:24.560 and

01:17:25.000 erased

01:17:25.400 you

01:17:26.300 will

01:17:26.480 always

01:17:26.800 be

01:17:26.980 remembered

01:17:27.680 as

01:17:28.160 an

01:17:28.360 as

01:17:28.940 a

01:17:29.100 loser

01:17:29.400 an

01:17:29.840 absolute

01:17:30.300 failure

01:17:30.760 and

01:17:31.520 when

01:17:31.640 those

01:17:31.840 prison

01:17:32.140 doors

01:17:32.420 slam

01:17:32.740 shut

01:17:33.020 behind

01:17:33.420 you

01:17:33.700 I

01:17:34.680 hope

01:17:34.880 that

01:17:35.060 sound

01:17:35.300 echoes

01:17:35.620 in

01:17:35.800 your

01:17:35.960 heart

01:17:36.200 for

01:17:36.360 the

01:17:36.480 rest

01:17:36.680 of

01:17:36.820 your

01:17:36.940 meaningless

01:17:37.460 days

01:17:38.000 I

01:17:39.080 hope

01:17:39.260 it

01:17:39.360 reminds

01:17:39.720 you

01:17:39.980 of

01:17:40.440 what

01:17:40.560 we

01:17:40.720 all

01:17:40.960 already

01:17:41.500 know

01:17:41.820 you're

01:17:42.540 nothing

01:17:42.900 may

01:17:44.180 you

01:17:44.340 continue

01:17:44.660 to live

01:17:45.140 your life

01:17:45.520 in

01:17:45.680 misery

01:17:46.280 you

01:17:47.000 are

01:17:47.180 officially

01:17:47.720 the

01:17:48.420 property

01:17:48.740 of the

01:17:49.060 state

01:17:49.240 of

01:17:49.380 Idaho

01:17:49.700 where

01:17:51.160 your

01:17:51.340 fellow

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01:17:53.400 awaiting

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01:17:54.000 arrival

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01:17:57.560 there

01:17:57.700 to

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01:18:10.160 in

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01:18:11.340 and

01:18:11.500 college

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01:18:12.800 you're

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01:18:13.900 D's

01:18:14.380 in

01:18:14.820 prison

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01:18:35.880 Shannon

01:18:36.240 Gray

01:18:36.680 the

01:18:37.000 Gonsalves

01:18:37.440 family

01:18:37.800 attorney

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01:18:38.880 statements

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01:18:40.100 Gonsalves

01:18:40.600 grandmothers

01:18:41.880 morning

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01:18:46.620 honor

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01:19:03.740 darkness

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01:19:11.660 J

01:19:11.860 Gonsalves

01:19:12.420 away

01:19:12.780 from

01:19:13.000 us

01:19:13.160 all

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01:19:16.860 remorse

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01:19:20.640 expressive

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01:19:24.380 team of

01:19:24.900 women

01:19:25.200 defend

01:19:25.660 you

01:19:25.960 Kaylee

01:19:27.920 was a

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01:19:29.940 caring

01:19:30.260 person

01:19:30.680 and

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01:19:54.380 left

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01:19:56.180 future

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01:20:08.500 Kaylee's

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01:20:24.480 all

01:20:24.680 of

01:20:24.800 us

01:20:25.020 she

01:20:26.060 was

01:20:26.220 so

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01:20:32.940 women

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01:20:34.140 their

01:20:34.280 own

01:20:34.460 beds

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01:20:36.240 nothing

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01:20:37.100 a

01:20:37.240 coward

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01:20:39.620 not

01:20:39.840 right

01:20:40.080 that

01:20:40.260 you

01:20:40.380 have

01:20:40.520 received

01:20:40.800 life

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01:20:43.000 you

01:20:43.220 meet

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01:20:44.720 darkness

01:20:45.180 burn

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01:20:46.320 hell

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01:20:50.260 other

01:20:50.440 statements

01:20:50.800 your

01:20:50.980 honor

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01:21:09.080 this

01:21:09.100 is

01:21:09.300 Linda

01:21:09.560 Luken's

01:21:10.080 statement

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01:21:10.840 is

01:21:11.020 Kaylee's

01:21:11.400 grandmother

01:21:11.740 I

01:21:15.180 really

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01:21:15.620 know

01:21:15.780 how

01:21:15.940 to

01:21:16.100 address

01:21:16.360 something

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01:21:17.800 but

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01:21:18.280 try

01:21:18.680 nothing

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01:21:21.460 and

01:21:21.580 a

01:21:21.620 half

01:21:21.740 years

01:21:22.080 has

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01:21:22.520 any

01:21:22.780 sense

01:21:23.160 all

01:21:23.940 I

01:21:24.080 get

01:21:24.280 is

01:21:24.600 you

01:21:24.800 cowardly

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01:21:25.820 home

01:21:26.000 at

01:21:26.160 night

01:21:26.480 filled

01:21:27.240 with

01:21:27.440 what

01:21:27.600 I'm

01:21:27.820 sure

01:21:28.000 you

01:21:28.160 thought

01:21:28.380 was

01:21:28.580 all

01:21:28.760 sleeping

01:21:29.020 girls

01:21:29.440 and

01:21:30.280 went

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01:21:30.600 a

01:21:30.720 vicious

01:21:30.920 killing

01:21:31.300 spree

01:21:31.660 for

01:21:32.280 no

01:21:32.440 other

01:21:32.600 reason

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01:21:33.380 to

01:21:33.540 appease

01:21:33.900 your

01:21:34.060 demonic

01:21:34.420 urges

01:21:34.860 you

01:21:36.580 took

01:21:36.760 my

01:21:36.920 granddaughter

01:21:37.300 Kaylee

01:21:37.780 from

01:21:38.160 us

01:21:38.520 plus

01:21:38.940 three

01:21:39.160 other

01:21:39.360 beautiful

01:21:39.700 lives

01:21:40.180 you

01:21:43.640 took

01:21:43.820 my

01:21:43.980 granddaughter

01:21:44.340 Kaylee

01:21:45.680 beautiful

01:21:46.420 sweet

01:21:46.880 soul

01:21:47.180 doll

01:21:47.480 face

01:21:47.760 Kaylee

01:21:48.140 who

01:21:48.560 was

01:21:48.680 getting

01:21:48.880 ready

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01:21:49.240 start

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01:21:49.560 amazing

01:21:49.920 life

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01:21:51.040 bright

01:21:51.240 future

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01:21:55.760 she

01:21:56.620 had

01:21:56.820 a

01:21:56.960 life

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01:21:58.120 you

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01:21:59.700 so

01:21:59.960 beyond

01:22:00.360 human

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01:22:01.500 definitely

01:22:01.940 a

01:22:02.340 demon

01:22:02.620 from

01:22:03.100 hell

01:22:03.360 I

01:22:05.000 truly

01:22:05.320 wish

01:22:05.640 your

01:22:05.820 punishment

01:22:06.180 would be

01:22:06.540 the same

01:22:06.960 death

01:22:07.300 you

01:22:07.480 inflicted

01:22:08.000 on our

01:22:08.440 kids

01:22:08.800 but I

01:22:10.080 think you

01:22:10.440 will meet

01:22:10.720 some new

01:22:11.080 friends in

01:22:11.580 prison

01:22:11.900 who will be

01:22:12.660 there just

01:22:13.140 to help

01:22:13.500 you

01:22:13.800 thumbs up

01:22:15.000 and I

01:22:24.940 have

01:22:25.060 one last

01:22:25.480 statement

01:22:25.760 your

01:22:25.960 honor

01:22:26.120 this is

01:22:31.300 from

01:22:31.460 Cheryl

01:22:31.740 Gonzávez

01:22:32.420 Kaylee's

01:22:33.060 other

01:22:33.240 grandmother

01:22:33.640 John

01:22:36.560 1

01:22:37.100 5

01:22:37.480 says

01:22:37.940 light

01:22:38.460 shines

01:22:38.940 in the

01:22:39.200 darkness

01:22:39.660 and the

01:22:40.260 darkness

01:22:41.060 overcomes

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01:22:43.940 in your

01:22:44.280 life

01:22:44.580 something

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01:22:45.740 jealousy

01:22:46.260 envy

01:22:46.780 ego

01:22:47.240 something

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01:22:49.460 all

01:22:49.660 light

01:22:50.040 until

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01:22:50.920 became

01:22:51.260 dark

01:22:51.660 and

01:22:52.060 evil

01:22:52.340 and

01:22:53.820 when

01:22:53.940 you

01:22:54.080 saw

01:22:54.280 my

01:22:54.480 granddaughter

01:22:54.920 and her

01:22:55.380 friends

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01:22:56.980 light

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01:22:57.760 have

01:22:57.900 such

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01:22:58.360 light

01:22:58.620 you

01:22:59.060 couldn't

01:22:59.320 stand

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01:23:01.000 the

01:23:01.220 darkness

01:23:01.540 in

01:23:01.860 you

01:23:02.040 could

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01:23:02.840 the

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01:23:03.880 and

01:23:04.920 so

01:23:05.080 you

01:23:05.260 decided

01:23:05.640 to

01:23:05.880 destroy

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01:23:09.320 walked

01:23:09.640 into

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01:23:10.080 rooms

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01:23:10.840 dark

01:23:11.160 and took

01:23:11.660 their

01:23:11.820 lives

01:23:12.380 hoping

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01:23:13.140 rid

01:23:13.320 of

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01:23:13.560 darkness

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01:23:18.000 know

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01:23:19.120 light

01:23:19.320 shown

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01:23:25.640 sees

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01:23:26.780 smile

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01:23:27.620 beauty

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01:23:49.980 will

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01:23:50.560 in

01:23:50.660 the

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01:23:51.260 all

01:23:51.420 eternity

01:23:51.860 and

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01:23:53.480 will

01:23:53.620 be

01:23:53.720 in

01:23:53.820 the

01:23:53.920 darkness

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01:23:54.640 you

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01:23:56.280 failed

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01:24:01.400 cast

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01:24:02.960 my

01:24:03.120 life

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01:24:03.660 my

01:24:03.840 family

01:24:04.200 from

01:24:04.560 this

01:24:04.740 earth

01:24:05.020 I

01:24:05.640 will

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01:24:06.240 your

01:24:06.480 hatred

01:24:06.800 to

01:24:07.020 penetrate

01:24:07.300 into

01:24:07.640 my

01:24:07.840 own

01:24:08.060 soul

01:24:08.440 you

01:24:09.360 did

01:24:09.500 not

01:24:09.700 get

01:24:09.920 that

01:24:10.140 power

01:24:10.500 you

01:24:11.160 are

01:24:11.360 evil

01:24:11.740 and

01:24:12.760 in

01:24:12.900 the

01:24:13.060 end

01:24:13.460 evil

01:24:14.340 is

01:24:14.620 eradicated

01:24:15.300 you

01:24:16.680 didn't

01:24:16.920 take

01:24:17.140 Kaylee's

01:24:17.520 light

01:24:17.860 you

01:24:18.260 spread

01:24:18.580 it

01:24:18.760 into

01:24:19.040 the

01:24:19.200 world

01:24:19.480 thank

01:24:20.580 you

01:24:20.700 honor

01:24:20.900 thank

01:24:21.240 you

01:24:22.700 are

01:24:27.700 you

01:24:28.760 moving

01:24:29.220 to

01:24:29.380 a

01:24:29.480 different

01:24:29.660 family

01:24:29.980 now

01:24:30.260 why don't

01:24:30.900 we

01:24:31.020 take

01:24:31.260 a

01:24:31.460 10

01:24:31.660 minute

01:24:31.840 recess

01:24:32.320 extraordinary

01:24:39.680 extraordinary

01:24:40.200 extraordinary

01:24:41.420 good god

01:24:42.940 what just

01:24:43.340 happened

01:24:43.720 that we

01:24:44.660 watched

01:24:44.940 together

01:24:45.400 Kaylee

01:24:46.300 Gonsalves

01:24:47.220 sister

01:24:48.500 Olivia

01:24:49.520 with the

01:24:51.520 most

01:24:51.740 powerful

01:24:52.320 victim

01:24:53.260 impact

01:24:53.760 statement

01:24:54.140 I've

01:24:54.600 ever

01:24:54.780 heard

01:24:55.180 completely

01:24:56.460 flipping

01:24:56.940 the whole

01:24:57.340 narrative

01:24:57.760 refusing

01:24:58.960 to talk

01:24:59.740 about

01:25:00.020 her

01:25:00.400 pain

01:25:01.340 or to

01:25:02.120 read

01:25:02.620 as she

01:25:03.500 described

01:25:03.920 it

01:25:04.180 from the

01:25:05.040 journal

01:25:05.300 she's

01:25:05.580 been

01:25:05.720 keeping

01:25:06.100 as she's

01:25:07.380 gone

01:25:07.580 through

01:25:07.980 all of

01:25:08.420 the

01:25:08.580 emotions

01:25:09.660 following

01:25:10.160 her

01:25:10.380 sister's

01:25:10.780 murder

01:25:11.040 something

01:25:12.040 she

01:25:12.280 considered

01:25:12.680 doing

01:25:13.140 and

01:25:14.280 instead

01:25:15.240 going

01:25:16.700 on

01:25:16.880 offense

01:25:17.360 diminishing

01:25:19.760 him

01:25:20.220 mocking

01:25:21.160 him

01:25:21.700 laughing

01:25:22.680 at him

01:25:23.180 literally

01:25:23.720 there was

01:25:24.140 a laugh

01:25:24.560 at one

01:25:24.840 point

01:25:25.140 and she

01:25:25.880 called him

01:25:26.480 pathetic

01:25:27.180 a loser

01:25:28.380 and said

01:25:29.860 in that

01:25:30.320 moment

01:25:30.620 that we're

01:25:31.140 we're all

01:25:32.500 still reeling

01:25:33.680 from

01:25:34.060 hold on

01:25:35.340 I want to

01:25:35.640 get it

01:25:35.860 because I

01:25:36.080 wrote it

01:25:36.320 down

01:25:36.440 exactly

01:25:36.840 if you

01:25:40.100 hadn't

01:25:40.420 attacked

01:25:40.780 them in

01:25:41.080 the middle

01:25:41.360 of the

01:25:41.640 night

01:25:41.800 while they

01:25:42.260 were

01:25:42.440 asleep

01:25:42.980 like a

01:25:43.660 pedophile

01:25:44.300 Kaylee

01:25:45.300 would have

01:25:45.620 kicked

01:25:45.840 your

01:25:46.020 fucking

01:25:46.460 ass

01:25:46.900 that was

01:25:48.600 the position

01:25:49.060 she came

01:25:49.740 from

01:25:50.080 Olivia

01:25:50.580 Gonsalves

01:25:51.160 from a

01:25:51.560 position

01:25:51.980 of

01:25:52.280 strength

01:25:53.040 as the

01:25:53.940 big

01:25:54.120 sister

01:25:54.460 who

01:25:54.640 always

01:25:54.940 protected

01:25:55.400 her

01:25:56.280 younger

01:25:56.600 sisters

01:25:57.140 as she

01:25:57.800 called

01:25:58.140 both

01:25:58.480 Kaylee

01:25:58.820 and her

01:25:59.220 best

01:25:59.400 friend

01:25:59.600 Maddie

01:25:59.920 Mogan

01:26:00.180 wow

01:26:00.980 that was

01:26:02.840 something

01:26:03.180 to watch

01:26:03.900 Steve

01:26:04.280 Gonsalves

01:26:04.860 who

01:26:05.160 originally

01:26:05.520 had said

01:26:05.940 he wasn't

01:26:06.380 going to

01:26:06.800 speak

01:26:07.080 at all

01:26:07.500 at this

01:26:07.800 thing

01:26:08.080 got up

01:26:08.960 turned

01:26:09.600 the

01:26:10.120 lectern

01:26:10.540 to face

01:26:11.220 Brian

01:26:11.560 Kohlberger

01:26:12.080 to stare

01:26:13.120 him down

01:26:13.760 and to

01:26:14.520 have his

01:26:15.000 say

01:26:15.540 in the

01:26:16.000 same

01:26:16.300 defiant

01:26:17.020 tone

01:26:17.920 in the

01:26:18.720 same

01:26:19.160 with the

01:26:20.460 same

01:26:20.660 righteous

01:26:21.320 anger

01:26:21.840 he addressed

01:26:22.900 him

01:26:23.160 both of

01:26:23.820 the

01:26:23.920 Gonsalves

01:26:24.420 there

01:26:25.160 and the

01:26:25.620 mother

01:26:25.820 too

01:26:26.160 refusing

01:26:27.260 to sound

01:26:28.380 like they

01:26:28.820 had been

01:26:29.100 victimized

01:26:29.800 saying today

01:26:31.060 you've lost

01:26:31.580 control

01:26:32.080 you picked

01:26:32.900 the wrong

01:26:33.420 families

01:26:33.920 the wrong

01:26:34.460 state

01:26:34.820 the wrong

01:26:35.300 police

01:26:35.840 he said

01:26:37.300 your

01:26:37.700 actions have

01:26:39.920 united

01:26:40.260 everyone

01:26:40.840 and they're

01:26:41.160 discussed

01:26:41.640 for you

01:26:42.320 none of us

01:26:42.920 are divided

01:26:43.480 we're united

01:26:44.640 in our

01:26:44.960 disgust

01:26:45.640 and in

01:26:47.140 our love

01:26:47.640 for our

01:26:48.140 children

01:26:48.540 you have

01:26:49.480 no name

01:26:49.980 we only

01:26:50.320 call you

01:26:50.760 BK

01:26:51.180 the media

01:26:51.640 has been

01:26:51.880 calling you

01:26:52.260 that too

01:26:52.600 you're a

01:26:53.040 joke

01:26:53.400 he said

01:26:53.920 Steve

01:26:54.180 Gonsalves

01:26:54.680 he made

01:26:56.100 the point

01:26:56.440 that we've

01:26:56.920 shared the

01:26:57.300 videos of

01:26:57.800 our four

01:26:58.320 children

01:26:58.900 with the

01:26:59.760 world

01:27:00.040 that's what

01:27:00.500 they know

01:27:00.880 they know

01:27:01.280 their names

01:27:01.720 they know

01:27:02.040 their joy

01:27:02.540 they know

01:27:02.920 their love

01:27:03.300 for one

01:27:03.600 another

01:27:03.900 they know

01:27:04.700 their zest

01:27:05.140 for life

01:27:06.240 that's who

01:27:06.980 they've been

01:27:08.000 discussing

01:27:08.500 he said

01:27:09.560 the world

01:27:10.460 is watching

01:27:11.120 because of

01:27:11.640 the kids

01:27:12.120 it's not

01:27:12.320 because of

01:27:12.720 you

01:27:13.140 no one

01:27:13.660 cares

01:27:13.980 about

01:27:14.220 you

01:27:14.520 you'll

01:27:15.020 be

01:27:15.200 forgotten

01:27:15.700 from

01:27:16.920 from

01:27:17.340 this

01:27:17.960 moment

01:27:18.460 we

01:27:19.080 will

01:27:19.240 forget

01:27:19.700 you

01:27:20.000 ending

01:27:21.020 with

01:27:21.260 you

01:27:21.400 picked

01:27:21.600 the

01:27:21.780 wrong

01:27:22.300 family

01:27:22.980 again

01:27:23.400 we're

01:27:23.700 laughing

01:27:24.240 at you

01:27:24.680 on your

01:27:25.600 trip

01:27:26.180 to the

01:27:26.520 penitentiary

01:27:27.280 and then

01:27:28.960 the big

01:27:29.840 sister

01:27:30.260 Olivia

01:27:30.680 making it

01:27:31.240 even more

01:27:31.820 clear

01:27:32.180 is the

01:27:32.900 panel

01:27:33.140 with me

01:27:33.560 Steve

01:27:33.840 so

01:27:34.120 I'm

01:27:34.700 yeah

01:27:36.280 they're

01:27:36.540 with me

01:27:37.000 okay

01:27:37.180 back

01:27:37.480 with me

01:27:37.780 now

01:27:38.060 Phil

01:27:38.560 Holloway

01:27:39.080 Howard

01:27:40.960 Bloom

01:27:41.320 and also

01:27:41.800 Matt Murphy

01:27:42.220 has joined

01:27:42.600 us as

01:27:42.900 well

01:27:43.140 guys

01:27:43.840 that was

01:27:44.980 extraordinary

01:27:46.000 Phil

01:27:46.460 I'll start

01:27:46.820 with you

01:27:47.220 yeah

01:27:48.520 you know

01:27:48.840 Megan

01:27:49.060 I posted

01:27:50.020 in response

01:27:51.000 to something

01:27:51.380 you posted

01:27:51.920 on X

01:27:52.520 during that

01:27:53.180 that

01:27:53.420 that

01:27:53.740 that statement

01:27:54.980 by the

01:27:55.700 the sister

01:27:57.020 is just

01:27:57.520 the most

01:27:58.180 powerful

01:27:58.680 thing

01:27:59.200 that I

01:27:59.820 have ever

01:28:00.180 heard

01:28:00.440 in terms

01:28:00.900 of

01:28:01.120 victim

01:28:01.680 impact

01:28:02.180 statements

01:28:02.580 and I

01:28:02.920 hope

01:28:03.280 that

01:28:03.900 her words

01:28:04.920 will echo

01:28:05.560 in his

01:28:06.580 despicable

01:28:07.260 brain

01:28:07.900 for the

01:28:08.760 rest of

01:28:09.240 his natural

01:28:09.800 life

01:28:10.120 because look

01:28:10.560 he doesn't

01:28:11.080 have to

01:28:11.380 sit there

01:28:11.800 in prison

01:28:12.240 and worry

01:28:12.800 about ever

01:28:13.780 facing the

01:28:14.500 firing squad

01:28:15.560 in Idaho

01:28:16.680 but hopefully

01:28:17.800 she has given

01:28:18.740 him something

01:28:19.240 to think

01:28:19.700 about

01:28:19.980 and I

01:28:20.340 hope

01:28:20.540 that it

01:28:20.920 haunts

01:28:21.420 him

01:28:21.700 for all

01:28:22.420 of his

01:28:22.660 days

01:28:22.940 all of

01:28:23.500 these

01:28:23.700 speakers

01:28:24.180 did a

01:28:24.780 very good

01:28:25.260 job

01:28:25.580 so far

01:28:26.140 in expressing

01:28:27.920 to the

01:28:29.180 public

01:28:29.520 what this

01:28:30.580 kind of

01:28:31.060 thing does

01:28:31.720 to families

01:28:32.300 it shatters

01:28:33.000 families

01:28:33.580 you bring

01:28:34.920 step parents

01:28:36.360 in

01:28:36.820 and you bring

01:28:38.020 extended family

01:28:39.060 in and

01:28:39.580 the reverberations

01:28:41.240 of this

01:28:41.760 type of

01:28:42.560 cruel

01:28:43.400 evil attack

01:28:44.360 just seem

01:28:44.980 to be

01:28:45.400 never ending

01:28:46.180 but these

01:28:46.780 human beings

01:28:47.600 have come

01:28:48.020 into this

01:28:48.380 courtroom

01:28:48.740 and have

01:28:49.640 expressed

01:28:50.340 to the

01:28:51.080 world

01:28:51.400 now

01:28:51.820 what the

01:28:52.640 impact

01:28:53.260 is of

01:28:53.800 this

01:28:54.020 type

01:28:54.300 of horrific

01:28:54.800 crime

01:28:55.260 even though

01:28:56.180 it's not

01:28:56.600 going to

01:28:56.960 make one

01:28:57.440 difference

01:28:57.880 in the

01:28:58.220 sentence

01:28:58.560 hopefully

01:28:59.420 it gives

01:28:59.980 this guy

01:29:00.900 something to

01:29:01.480 think about

01:29:02.040 as he

01:29:02.520 rots in

01:29:03.000 prison

01:29:03.320 it's

01:29:04.120 satisfying

01:29:04.600 to watch

01:29:05.200 whether

01:29:05.560 it changes

01:29:06.200 that sentence

01:29:06.780 or not

01:29:06.980 there's

01:29:07.120 something

01:29:07.260 very

01:29:07.660 satisfying

01:29:08.200 about

01:29:08.540 watching

01:29:08.900 them

01:29:09.100 say

01:29:09.340 those

01:29:09.580 things

01:29:09.800 to him

01:29:10.160 Howard

01:29:10.840 the

01:29:11.440 sisters

01:29:11.960 Olivia's

01:29:13.000 remarks

01:29:14.100 must have

01:29:14.560 jumped out

01:29:15.200 to you

01:29:15.580 because

01:29:15.940 of those

01:29:16.640 questions

01:29:17.200 she was

01:29:17.840 asking

01:29:18.200 him

01:29:18.500 yes

01:29:20.080 it was

01:29:20.560 very

01:29:21.200 poignant

01:29:21.700 it was

01:29:22.200 Old Testament

01:29:23.000 fury

01:29:23.580 she was

01:29:24.280 just

01:29:24.520 unleashing

01:29:25.080 all her

01:29:25.560 rage

01:29:26.040 though at

01:29:26.940 one point

01:29:27.440 she said

01:29:28.100 you're afraid

01:29:29.180 to be

01:29:29.760 ordinary

01:29:30.160 I think

01:29:31.540 really

01:29:31.920 when the

01:29:32.500 people were

01:29:33.040 discussing

01:29:33.820 what they

01:29:34.720 missed

01:29:35.020 most

01:29:35.440 they missed

01:29:36.280 the ordinary

01:29:36.800 moments

01:29:37.480 with their

01:29:38.120 loved ones

01:29:39.340 that they'll

01:29:39.660 never have

01:29:40.200 again

01:29:40.620 it was like

01:29:41.500 a scene

01:29:41.840 from the

01:29:42.160 Thornton

01:29:42.480 Wilder play

01:29:43.280 where he

01:29:43.840 comes back

01:29:44.420 and he

01:29:44.660 looks at

01:29:44.960 his family

01:29:45.440 having breakfast

01:29:46.180 he's in

01:29:46.660 heaven

01:29:46.980 and he

01:29:47.460 can never

01:29:47.800 have that

01:29:48.180 experience

01:29:48.740 again

01:29:49.260 and that's

01:29:50.360 what they're

01:29:50.680 missing

01:29:51.060 Kohlberger's

01:29:53.600 fate was that

01:29:54.200 he could never

01:29:54.720 be part of

01:29:55.400 that world

01:29:55.960 he could never

01:29:56.620 be ordinary

01:29:57.660 it wasn't

01:29:58.420 that he

01:29:58.780 didn't want

01:29:59.840 to be ordinary

01:30:00.480 he didn't

01:30:00.920 know how

01:30:01.380 to be

01:30:01.660 ordinary

01:30:02.120 right

01:30:03.780 and she

01:30:04.220 went through

01:30:04.720 Matt Murphy

01:30:05.180 it was

01:30:05.400 fascinating

01:30:05.880 that those

01:30:07.260 recitations

01:30:07.880 the questions

01:30:08.440 that she

01:30:08.760 asked

01:30:09.140 seemed to

01:30:10.260 me to be

01:30:10.800 pulled from

01:30:11.620 Brian Kohlberger's

01:30:12.720 questionnaire

01:30:13.200 that he

01:30:14.620 submitted

01:30:15.640 as a PhD

01:30:17.720 student in

01:30:18.620 criminology

01:30:19.240 it was either

01:30:19.840 as a PhD

01:30:20.600 student or

01:30:21.200 as a master's

01:30:21.960 student at

01:30:22.340 DeSales

01:30:22.760 but he

01:30:23.380 submitted that

01:30:23.980 questionnaire

01:30:24.460 for criminals

01:30:25.260 asking questions

01:30:26.420 like the ones

01:30:26.960 that she

01:30:27.320 posited

01:30:27.940 there

01:30:28.880 like

01:30:29.320 why did

01:30:30.340 you choose

01:30:30.900 and then

01:30:31.240 she said

01:30:31.580 my sisters

01:30:32.200 referring to

01:30:32.700 Maddie

01:30:32.940 as her

01:30:33.200 sister

01:30:33.480 is to

01:30:33.840 detail

01:30:34.420 what you

01:30:35.040 were thinking

01:30:35.540 and feeling

01:30:36.160 if memory

01:30:37.080 serves

01:30:37.360 these are

01:30:37.640 pulled

01:30:37.940 in part

01:30:38.560 directly

01:30:38.940 from his

01:30:39.620 survey

01:30:40.160 and then

01:30:40.860 she inserted

01:30:41.460 her own

01:30:42.000 questions

01:30:42.560 like

01:30:43.420 where's

01:30:44.020 the second

01:30:44.600 murder

01:30:45.120 weapon

01:30:45.540 you used

01:30:46.160 on

01:30:46.400 Kaylee

01:30:46.880 which was

01:30:47.720 a brand

01:30:48.280 new

01:30:48.560 fact

01:30:49.060 none

01:30:49.340 of us

01:30:49.620 had

01:30:49.760 ever

01:30:49.960 heard

01:30:50.320 well

01:30:53.840 she knows

01:30:54.720 that

01:30:55.120 with the

01:30:55.840 prospect

01:30:56.320 of a

01:30:56.640 statement

01:30:56.900 and

01:30:57.080 allocution

01:30:57.800 looming

01:30:58.640 he's going

01:30:59.220 to have

01:30:59.380 an opportunity

01:30:59.960 perhaps

01:31:00.620 to answer

01:31:01.820 those questions

01:31:02.540 so she's

01:31:03.180 calling him

01:31:03.800 out ahead

01:31:04.180 of time

01:31:04.540 which I

01:31:04.800 think is

01:31:05.100 very very

01:31:06.240 clever

01:31:06.600 because of

01:31:07.100 course he's

01:31:07.380 not going

01:31:07.620 to answer

01:31:08.000 any of

01:31:08.400 those

01:31:08.580 questions

01:31:09.040 another

01:31:09.600 thing

01:31:09.860 that I

01:31:10.320 think

01:31:10.480 was

01:31:10.620 incredibly

01:31:11.340 powerful

01:31:11.900 about

01:31:12.240 that

01:31:12.440 and we've

01:31:12.700 talked

01:31:12.920 about this

01:31:13.300 before

01:31:13.700 Megan

01:31:13.980 is that

01:31:14.960 when it

01:31:15.240 comes to

01:31:15.560 the personality

01:31:16.140 of the

01:31:16.540 psychopath

01:31:16.900 and that

01:31:18.140 really is

01:31:19.000 what I

01:31:19.500 think Brian

01:31:19.960 Kohlberger

01:31:20.640 is

01:31:20.940 they don't

01:31:21.300 really

01:31:21.560 respond

01:31:22.140 to

01:31:22.360 things

01:31:22.600 like

01:31:22.820 a

01:31:23.200 grandmother's

01:31:23.800 tears

01:31:24.160 or

01:31:24.700 the

01:31:25.280 emotional

01:31:26.240 impact

01:31:26.800 on

01:31:27.300 a

01:31:28.300 mother

01:31:28.640 who's

01:31:28.900 lost

01:31:29.160 her

01:31:29.320 child

01:31:29.660 they're

01:31:30.220 almost

01:31:30.600 immune

01:31:31.240 from

01:31:31.460 that

01:31:31.640 sort

01:31:31.820 of

01:31:31.920 thing

01:31:32.180 but

01:31:32.560 when it

01:31:32.820 comes

01:31:33.020 to

01:31:33.140 the

01:31:33.300 narcissism

01:31:34.500 that

01:31:34.820 is

01:31:35.340 possessed

01:31:35.860 by a

01:31:36.260 lot

01:31:36.620 of

01:31:36.760 psychopaths

01:31:37.800 he

01:31:38.200 cut

01:31:38.680 deep

01:31:39.320 and

01:31:40.080 using

01:31:40.720 the

01:31:41.000 language

01:31:41.340 of

01:31:41.980 people

01:31:42.540 in

01:31:42.720 their

01:31:42.860 20s

01:31:43.520 he

01:31:43.800 heard

01:31:44.160 all

01:31:44.320 that

01:31:44.560 you're

01:31:45.140 a

01:31:45.420 loser

01:31:45.780 you're

01:31:46.800 basic

01:31:47.520 you're

01:31:48.080 not

01:31:48.440 profound

01:31:49.040 you're

01:31:49.300 pathetic

01:31:49.660 and

01:31:49.960 you're

01:31:50.140 exactly

01:31:50.520 right

01:31:50.780 she

01:31:51.320 obviously

01:31:52.100 spent

01:31:52.440 a lot

01:31:52.980 of

01:31:53.100 time

01:31:53.460 going

01:31:54.060 through

01:31:54.420 his

01:31:54.780 own

01:31:55.140 writings

01:31:55.620 and

01:31:56.360 knew

01:31:56.580 exactly

01:31:57.320 where

01:31:57.540 those

01:31:57.760 exposed

01:31:58.220 nerves

01:31:58.540 were

01:31:58.760 and

01:31:58.920 I'll

01:31:59.060 tell

01:31:59.240 you

01:31:59.380 what

01:31:59.640 as

01:31:59.840 I'm

01:32:00.020 listening

01:32:00.320 to

01:32:00.480 that

01:32:00.760 it was

01:32:01.260 incredibly

01:32:01.800 powerful

01:32:02.320 I've

01:32:02.720 sat

01:32:02.960 through

01:32:03.340 dozens

01:32:04.260 and

01:32:04.520 dozens

01:32:04.860 of

01:32:05.600 these

01:32:05.780 things

01:32:06.000 over

01:32:06.200 the

01:32:06.360 years

01:32:06.600 and

01:32:06.840 that

01:32:07.280 one

01:32:07.560 will

01:32:07.780 stand

01:32:08.240 out

01:32:08.500 because

01:32:08.800 if

01:32:09.100 he

01:32:09.340 listens

01:32:09.780 to

01:32:10.000 anybody

01:32:10.440 if

01:32:11.020 he's

01:32:11.220 going

01:32:11.340 to

01:32:11.420 go

01:32:11.560 into

01:32:11.740 prison

01:32:12.120 with

01:32:12.500 anybody's

01:32:13.300 words

01:32:13.620 ringing

01:32:13.960 in

01:32:14.280 his

01:32:14.500 head

01:32:14.800 it

01:32:15.380 is

01:32:15.620 that

01:32:15.980 woman

01:32:16.380 just

01:32:16.960 laying

01:32:17.620 it

01:32:17.860 out

01:32:18.160 and

01:32:18.440 that

01:32:18.820 last

01:32:19.260 thing

01:32:19.560 that

01:32:19.760 you

01:32:20.080 already

01:32:20.280 hit

01:32:20.500 on

01:32:20.700 if

01:32:21.140 you

01:32:21.200 hadn't

01:32:21.340 attacked

01:32:21.680 them

01:32:21.860 in

01:32:21.960 their

01:32:22.100 sleep

01:32:22.400 like

01:32:22.580 a

01:32:22.820 pedophile

01:32:23.440 and

01:32:24.080 that's

01:32:24.300 something

01:32:24.520 he's

01:32:24.740 got to

01:32:24.940 be

01:32:25.160 concerned

01:32:25.760 about

01:32:26.100 especially

01:32:26.500 if

01:32:26.680 he

01:32:26.780 ever

01:32:27.040 sees

01:32:27.540 or

01:32:27.720 even

01:32:27.900 sniffs

01:32:28.280 general

01:32:28.560 population

01:32:29.140 which

01:32:29.380 I

01:32:29.500 don't

01:32:29.620 think

01:32:29.800 he

01:32:29.920 ever

01:32:30.080 will

01:32:30.500 you

01:32:31.680 know

01:32:31.860 she

01:32:32.180 is

01:32:32.380 she

01:32:32.740 is

01:32:32.900 raising

01:32:33.380 that

01:32:33.780 the

01:32:34.060 sexual

01:32:34.600 component

01:32:35.020 that

01:32:35.180 we

01:32:35.280 talked

01:32:35.540 about

01:32:35.720 before

01:32:36.160 and

01:32:36.920 my

01:32:37.160 sister

01:32:37.460 would

01:32:37.600 have

01:32:37.700 kicked

01:32:37.880 your

01:32:38.040 fucking

01:32:38.340 ass

01:32:38.700 that

01:32:39.360 is

01:32:39.760 he

01:32:40.220 will

01:32:40.500 hear

01:32:41.500 that

01:32:41.780 and

01:32:41.940 he's

01:32:42.140 going

01:32:42.260 to

01:32:42.340 remember

01:32:42.620 those

01:32:42.860 words

01:32:43.120 I

01:32:43.280 think

01:32:43.560 it

01:32:44.260 was

01:32:44.440 extra

01:32:44.740 powerful

01:32:45.220 because

01:32:45.800 obviously

01:32:47.220 this guy

01:32:47.980 has

01:32:48.260 some

01:32:48.740 seriously

01:32:49.540 deep

01:32:50.220 misogynistic

01:32:51.380 issues

01:32:51.860 and

01:32:52.640 so

01:32:53.020 for

01:32:53.300 this

01:32:53.580 young

01:32:54.100 beautiful

01:32:55.060 woman

01:32:55.600 who

01:32:56.200 he

01:32:56.400 knows

01:32:56.720 would

01:32:56.900 also

01:32:57.320 never

01:32:57.980 have

01:32:58.420 him

01:32:58.700 to

01:32:59.260 stand

01:32:59.620 up

01:32:59.900 there

01:33:00.120 and

01:33:00.380 laugh

01:33:00.960 at

01:33:01.140 him

01:33:01.420 and

01:33:01.680 call

01:33:02.000 him

01:33:02.240 pathetic

01:33:02.880 and

01:33:03.640 a

01:33:03.960 loser

01:33:04.300 and

01:33:04.820 tell

01:33:05.120 him

01:33:05.540 this

01:33:05.640 other

01:33:06.060 woman

01:33:06.340 who

01:33:06.500 he

01:33:06.740 could

01:33:07.480 only

01:33:07.960 subdue

01:33:08.620 because

01:33:08.920 she

01:33:09.120 was

01:33:09.340 sleeping

01:33:09.900 would

01:33:10.740 have

01:33:10.880 kicked

01:33:11.240 his

01:33:11.440 fucking

01:33:11.940 ass

01:33:12.300 was

01:33:12.800 so

01:33:13.320 powerful

01:33:14.140 a

01:33:14.460 moment

01:33:14.900 that

01:33:15.260 you

01:33:15.500 yes

01:33:15.960 you

01:33:16.200 feel

01:33:16.580 like

01:33:16.860 well

01:33:17.680 while

01:33:18.060 he

01:33:18.220 has

01:33:18.420 no

01:33:18.600 empathy

01:33:18.980 whatsoever

01:33:19.360 for

01:33:19.780 victims

01:33:20.120 he

01:33:20.720 does

01:33:21.100 have

01:33:21.320 feelings

01:33:21.620 about

01:33:21.900 himself

01:33:22.540 and

01:33:22.800 his

01:33:22.940 own

01:33:23.120 deep

01:33:23.580 inadequacies

01:33:24.500 and

01:33:25.240 yes

01:33:25.600 she

01:33:25.820 knew

01:33:26.020 exactly

01:33:26.880 how

01:33:27.420 to

01:33:27.620 twist

01:33:28.020 the

01:33:28.220 knife

01:33:28.560 which

01:33:29.080 is

01:33:29.260 I

01:33:29.500 mean

01:33:29.620 a

01:33:29.980 perfect

01:33:30.520 for

01:33:31.680 now

01:33:32.100 ending

01:33:32.720 to

01:33:33.380 their

01:33:33.600 relationship

01:33:34.160 can I

01:33:36.040 add another

01:33:36.440 element to

01:33:36.900 that as

01:33:37.300 well

01:33:37.500 there was

01:33:38.840 a bit

01:33:39.240 of minor

01:33:39.680 rebellion

01:33:40.260 in that

01:33:40.960 which I

01:33:41.400 also

01:33:41.720 kind of

01:33:42.380 love

01:33:42.680 and

01:33:42.920 Judge

01:33:43.520 Hippler

01:33:43.820 handled it

01:33:44.420 perfectly

01:33:44.920 when somebody

01:33:46.020 gives a

01:33:46.360 victim impact

01:33:46.920 statement

01:33:47.300 they're not

01:33:47.800 supposed to

01:33:48.300 address the

01:33:48.800 defendant

01:33:49.040 directly

01:33:49.480 they're

01:33:49.720 supposed to

01:33:50.220 address

01:33:50.620 the court

01:33:51.160 so the

01:33:51.780 fact that

01:33:52.280 Mr.

01:33:52.600 Gonsalves

01:33:53.040 and her

01:33:54.420 sister

01:33:54.900 both

01:33:55.580 faced him

01:33:56.340 directly

01:33:56.660 and spoke

01:33:57.020 directly

01:33:57.380 to him

01:33:57.580 it's

01:33:58.180 kind of

01:33:58.740 pushing

01:33:58.980 the limits

01:33:59.380 of the

01:33:59.640 rules

01:33:59.960 but that

01:34:00.640 was their

01:34:00.980 opportunity

01:34:01.500 to do

01:34:02.180 it

01:34:02.360 and I

01:34:02.980 really

01:34:03.760 appreciate

01:34:04.360 the fact

01:34:04.800 that the

01:34:05.200 court

01:34:05.720 did not

01:34:06.040 attempt

01:34:06.300 to correct

01:34:06.860 them

01:34:07.080 on that

01:34:07.620 they had

01:34:08.020 their

01:34:08.200 moment

01:34:08.560 and

01:34:08.920 I

01:34:09.480 mean

01:34:09.820 look

01:34:10.060 in the

01:34:11.340 victim

01:34:11.680 rights

01:34:12.880 the victim

01:34:13.480 impact

01:34:14.040 world

01:34:14.440 people that

01:34:14.980 have suffered

01:34:15.440 from violent

01:34:16.020 crime

01:34:16.380 I mean

01:34:18.300 that woman

01:34:18.780 that woman

01:34:19.540 spoke for

01:34:20.100 a lot of

01:34:20.540 people today

01:34:21.140 and that

01:34:21.560 was very

01:34:22.080 powerful

01:34:22.500 I thought

01:34:22.900 we are

01:34:23.560 right now

01:34:23.920 awaiting the

01:34:24.580 remainder

01:34:24.940 of the

01:34:25.300 Brian

01:34:25.580 Kohlberger

01:34:26.060 sentencing

01:34:27.000 hearing

01:34:27.460 we've heard

01:34:28.040 from the

01:34:28.420 families

01:34:28.780 of

01:34:29.140 Maddie

01:34:29.460 Mogan

01:34:29.780 and

01:34:30.320 Kaylee

01:34:30.600 Gonsalves

01:34:31.120 we have

01:34:31.400 not yet

01:34:31.760 heard

01:34:31.960 from

01:34:32.160 Ethan

01:34:32.420 Chapin's

01:34:33.000 or

01:34:33.140 Xana

01:34:33.420 Kornodel's

01:34:33.920 families

01:34:34.260 we also

01:34:35.400 heard

01:34:35.760 and I'll

01:34:35.980 get to

01:34:36.200 this

01:34:36.320 in one

01:34:36.540 second

01:34:36.760 but

01:34:36.960 an

01:34:37.160 extraordinary

01:34:37.840 moment

01:34:38.880 from

01:34:39.760 the two

01:34:40.360 surviving

01:34:41.100 roommates

01:34:41.740 which was

01:34:42.860 shocking

01:34:43.780 one had

01:34:45.360 her statement

01:34:45.700 read by

01:34:46.140 a friend

01:34:46.540 one

01:34:47.020 the one

01:34:47.820 we've been

01:34:48.180 speculating

01:34:48.640 about

01:34:49.000 all along

01:34:50.180 Howard

01:34:50.540 Bloom

01:34:50.880 Dylan

01:34:51.300 Mortensen

01:34:51.900 took to

01:34:53.580 the lectern

01:34:54.260 she sat

01:34:55.020 she wasn't

01:34:55.700 able to

01:34:56.420 stand

01:34:56.900 she was

01:34:57.900 a wreck

01:34:58.840 but she

01:35:00.340 spoke

01:35:01.260 about

01:35:01.960 what happened

01:35:03.620 that night

01:35:04.240 it was

01:35:04.740 remarkable

01:35:05.800 to hear her

01:35:06.640 for the first

01:35:07.120 time

01:35:07.460 you have to

01:35:08.640 admire her

01:35:09.140 courage

01:35:09.660 to be able

01:35:10.840 to do that

01:35:11.680 to relive

01:35:12.320 that moment

01:35:12.900 publicly

01:35:13.660 my heart

01:35:15.340 goes out

01:35:15.860 to her

01:35:16.180 and yet

01:35:16.540 I'm filled

01:35:17.020 with respect

01:35:17.640 for her

01:35:18.040 at the same

01:35:18.580 time

01:35:19.080 and

01:35:19.980 I know

01:35:21.680 Koberger

01:35:22.400 or I speculate

01:35:23.600 Koberger

01:35:24.120 must have been

01:35:24.540 staring at her

01:35:25.320 and wondering

01:35:26.220 you know

01:35:27.200 he saw her

01:35:28.020 at that moment

01:35:28.720 he let her

01:35:29.640 live

01:35:30.060 what was going

01:35:31.400 on in his

01:35:31.940 mind

01:35:32.320 he sat there

01:35:33.260 and he looked

01:35:34.080 in my opinion

01:35:35.800 diminished

01:35:36.660 today

01:35:37.040 we saw him

01:35:37.980 earlier on

01:35:38.720 the proceedings

01:35:39.560 he was wearing

01:35:40.220 a suit and tie

01:35:41.100 his hair was

01:35:41.760 gelled

01:35:42.220 he was trying

01:35:43.240 to look like

01:35:44.200 a swaggering

01:35:45.040 figure

01:35:45.420 now he looks

01:35:46.520 like

01:35:46.940 as the sister

01:35:48.220 said

01:35:48.560 the loser

01:35:49.140 he's become

01:35:49.820 yeah

01:35:50.760 he looks

01:35:51.260 like a convicted

01:35:51.960 felon

01:35:52.760 sitting there

01:35:53.220 in his orange

01:35:53.600 jumpsuit

01:35:54.020 and Phil

01:35:54.760 he was

01:35:55.220 almost expressionless

01:35:56.900 for most of

01:35:57.500 the testimonials

01:35:59.680 though

01:36:00.100 at one point

01:36:01.100 when they were

01:36:01.620 talking about

01:36:02.260 Maddie Mogan

01:36:03.000 her family

01:36:04.040 went first

01:36:04.660 he had his

01:36:05.440 hands on his

01:36:06.180 swivel chair

01:36:06.820 and he was

01:36:07.560 swiveling a little

01:36:08.400 like swiveling

01:36:09.600 like a kid

01:36:10.160 boarding class

01:36:11.360 and then

01:36:12.300 he stopped

01:36:13.140 and just

01:36:13.600 stared everyone

01:36:14.480 down

01:36:14.880 he was

01:36:15.240 almost

01:36:15.560 expressionless

01:36:16.340 when the

01:36:17.000 sister said

01:36:17.560 sit up

01:36:18.220 he didn't

01:36:19.220 he just

01:36:19.740 he remained

01:36:20.380 motionless

01:36:21.320 but your

01:36:22.600 thoughts on

01:36:23.180 the fact that

01:36:23.880 back to my

01:36:24.520 other point

01:36:24.960 the two

01:36:25.780 surviving

01:36:26.480 roommates

01:36:27.200 took the

01:36:28.800 stand

01:36:29.040 the first

01:36:29.520 one

01:36:30.000 Bethany

01:36:31.160 Funk

01:36:31.600 didn't

01:36:32.400 she had

01:36:32.860 a friend

01:36:33.760 who was

01:36:35.360 featured in

01:36:35.840 this documentary

01:36:36.380 that I mentioned

01:36:36.900 on Amazon Prime

01:36:37.640 read her

01:36:38.420 statement

01:36:38.760 this is a

01:36:39.240 very dear

01:36:39.600 friend of all

01:36:40.120 four of the

01:36:40.460 roommates

01:36:40.680 she got up

01:36:41.080 and read

01:36:41.360 Bethany's

01:36:41.880 statement

01:36:42.100 and can I

01:36:42.960 I'm just

01:36:43.260 going to

01:36:43.420 play part

01:36:43.940 of what

01:36:44.160 she said

01:36:44.420 because this

01:36:44.780 is the

01:36:44.960 first time

01:36:45.460 we've

01:36:45.680 heard

01:36:45.920 essentially

01:36:46.760 from

01:36:47.060 Bethany

01:36:47.440 Funk

01:36:47.680 the roommate

01:36:48.580 who was

01:36:48.980 in the

01:36:49.240 basement

01:36:49.580 and didn't

01:36:50.340 hear

01:36:50.540 anything

01:36:50.940 to whose

01:36:51.900 room

01:36:52.340 Dylan Mortensen

01:36:53.320 ran

01:36:53.960 eventually

01:36:55.200 through

01:36:55.660 at some

01:36:56.300 point that

01:36:56.720 night

01:36:56.960 because she

01:36:57.360 was terrified

01:36:58.000 explain

01:36:59.600 what her

01:37:01.600 experience

01:37:02.120 was in

01:37:02.940 those hours

01:37:03.740 and why

01:37:04.200 she didn't

01:37:04.700 immediately

01:37:05.160 know something

01:37:06.020 was wrong

01:37:06.420 or call

01:37:06.720 police

01:37:07.020 here's

01:37:07.340 her friend

01:37:08.180 reading her

01:37:08.600 statement

01:37:08.880 listen

01:37:09.280 my name

01:37:11.580 is

01:37:11.720 Bethany

01:37:12.100 Funk

01:37:12.460 and I

01:37:13.220 was

01:37:13.440 roommates

01:37:13.800 with

01:37:14.120 Maddie

01:37:14.420 Kaylee

01:37:14.900 Zanna

01:37:15.360 and Ethan

01:37:15.880 I not

01:37:17.320 only lost

01:37:17.920 some of

01:37:18.160 my best

01:37:18.500 friends

01:37:18.840 but I

01:37:19.360 also lost

01:37:19.900 a sister

01:37:20.380 never in a

01:37:23.540 million years

01:37:24.120 would I have

01:37:25.000 thought that

01:37:27.240 something like

01:37:27.820 this would have

01:37:28.220 happened to my

01:37:28.820 closest friends

01:37:29.580 when I first

01:37:31.020 woke up that

01:37:31.520 morning I had

01:37:32.800 no idea what

01:37:33.380 happened

01:37:33.780 I woke up

01:37:34.740 around 7

01:37:35.260 with a

01:37:35.600 terrible

01:37:35.860 toothache

01:37:36.400 so I

01:37:37.220 called my

01:37:37.540 dad

01:37:37.880 who is a

01:37:38.400 dentist

01:37:38.760 he told me

01:37:40.120 to take

01:37:40.440 Advil

01:37:40.840 so I did

01:37:41.440 and I

01:37:41.700 went back

01:37:41.980 to sleep

01:37:42.420 I was

01:37:43.360 still out

01:37:44.040 of it

01:37:44.400 and still

01:37:44.880 didn't know

01:37:45.320 what happened

01:37:45.880 if I had

01:37:47.040 known I

01:37:47.660 of course

01:37:48.080 would have

01:37:48.340 called 911

01:37:48.800 right away

01:37:49.500 I still

01:37:50.560 carry so

01:37:51.060 much regret

01:37:51.600 and guilt

01:37:52.180 for not

01:37:52.960 knowing what

01:37:53.420 had happened

01:37:53.980 and not

01:37:54.960 calling right

01:37:55.420 away

01:37:55.760 even though

01:37:56.840 I understand

01:37:57.460 it wouldn't

01:37:58.200 have changed

01:37:58.720 anything

01:37:59.220 not even

01:38:00.220 if the

01:38:00.580 paramedics

01:38:01.100 had been

01:38:01.400 right outside

01:38:01.880 the door

01:38:02.320 oh Phil

01:38:04.940 yeah look

01:38:06.740 there's there's

01:38:07.480 just no amount

01:38:08.620 of counseling

01:38:10.120 or therapy

01:38:10.780 that can I

01:38:11.780 think ever

01:38:12.480 bring these

01:38:15.360 survivors

01:38:16.080 you know

01:38:18.100 what they've

01:38:18.820 lost I mean

01:38:19.280 they have to

01:38:20.260 live the rest

01:38:20.960 of their lives

01:38:21.800 with this guilt

01:38:22.940 I mean I

01:38:23.360 don't personally

01:38:23.940 feel that they

01:38:24.940 have anything

01:38:25.640 to be guilty

01:38:26.300 of or to

01:38:26.840 feel guilty

01:38:27.300 about but we

01:38:27.960 know they do

01:38:28.680 actually feel

01:38:29.620 that way

01:38:30.200 and this

01:38:31.660 is

01:38:32.000 part of

01:38:33.240 you know

01:38:33.700 this is

01:38:34.140 part of

01:38:34.540 what this

01:38:35.360 individual

01:38:36.180 did

01:38:36.560 he not

01:38:37.520 only ceased

01:38:38.200 the lives

01:38:38.960 of four

01:38:39.700 individuals

01:38:40.220 he effectively

01:38:41.460 destroyed

01:38:42.320 the lives

01:38:43.220 of these

01:38:43.580 other two

01:38:44.300 because all

01:38:45.440 of the things

01:38:45.940 that they

01:38:46.200 were working

01:38:46.780 on all

01:38:47.280 the things

01:38:47.780 that they

01:38:48.260 were dreaming

01:38:49.080 and hoping

01:38:49.640 for for the

01:38:50.300 future are

01:38:51.140 now gone

01:38:51.720 and all

01:38:52.160 they are

01:38:52.460 left with

01:38:53.100 is this

01:38:53.900 survivor's

01:38:54.840 grief

01:38:55.240 and so

01:38:56.260 to see

01:38:57.620 them have

01:38:58.280 the courage

01:38:58.880 to finally

01:38:59.760 speak out

01:39:00.380 after all

01:39:00.840 this time

01:39:01.460 you know

01:39:02.860 hopefully

01:39:03.760 that lets

01:39:04.460 the world

01:39:05.020 sort of

01:39:05.620 understand

01:39:06.120 better

01:39:06.680 the impact

01:39:07.780 of what

01:39:08.780 happens

01:39:09.420 to families

01:39:10.520 and individuals

01:39:11.200 when they're

01:39:11.620 shattered

01:39:12.040 by such

01:39:13.280 violent crime

01:39:14.140 to your

01:39:14.820 point a

01:39:15.380 moment ago

01:39:16.000 about

01:39:16.580 the sister

01:39:17.800 telling

01:39:18.380 Koberger

01:39:19.340 to sit

01:39:20.040 up straight

01:39:20.520 Megan

01:39:20.920 I thought

01:39:21.540 I saw

01:39:22.260 a little

01:39:23.040 bit of

01:39:23.360 a smirk

01:39:25.580 on his

01:39:25.980 face

01:39:26.380 I'd have

01:39:26.960 to go back

01:39:27.320 and see

01:39:27.720 it but

01:39:28.120 I think

01:39:28.980 that she

01:39:29.400 did get

01:39:29.980 his

01:39:30.140 attention

01:39:30.520 I don't

01:39:30.880 know if

01:39:31.120 it was

01:39:31.360 a nervous

01:39:31.860 smirk

01:39:32.340 or if it

01:39:33.660 was some

01:39:34.060 kind of

01:39:34.440 just evil

01:39:35.120 smirk

01:39:35.540 on his

01:39:35.900 face

01:39:36.160 but I

01:39:36.500 felt like

01:39:37.000 when she

01:39:37.480 told him

01:39:38.080 to sit

01:39:38.460 up straight

01:39:38.980 I felt

01:39:39.780 like she

01:39:40.220 did get

01:39:40.780 his

01:39:40.980 attention

01:39:41.380 he does

01:39:42.360 sit there

01:39:42.940 without

01:39:43.360 emotion

01:39:44.060 and without

01:39:44.680 remorse

01:39:45.360 which goes

01:39:47.280 to the

01:39:47.720 point that

01:39:48.380 I've been

01:39:48.740 making for

01:39:49.300 all this

01:39:49.620 time

01:39:49.880 is that

01:39:50.240 the death

01:39:51.140 penalty

01:39:51.500 should still

01:39:52.320 be on

01:39:52.760 the table

01:39:53.220 for him

01:39:53.620 because

01:39:53.860 there's

01:39:54.300 no

01:39:54.740 value

01:39:55.560 to

01:39:56.300 remaining

01:39:57.040 in a

01:39:58.300 world

01:39:58.540 with him

01:39:58.920 living in

01:39:59.400 it

01:39:59.560 I think

01:40:00.400 he should

01:40:00.680 have to

01:40:00.980 live in

01:40:01.420 prison

01:40:01.800 every day

01:40:02.820 worrying about

01:40:03.900 the firing

01:40:04.460 squad in

01:40:05.120 Idaho

01:40:05.500 will the

01:40:06.580 marksman

01:40:07.340 hit their

01:40:08.360 mark or

01:40:08.840 is it going

01:40:09.500 to hurt

01:40:09.960 and he

01:40:10.400 needs to

01:40:10.680 be thinking

01:40:11.180 about those

01:40:11.840 things but

01:40:12.300 instead he

01:40:13.420 gets to

01:40:13.840 live the

01:40:14.240 rest of

01:40:14.620 his days

01:40:15.280 perhaps giving

01:40:16.240 interviews and

01:40:17.080 maybe even

01:40:17.820 writing books

01:40:18.520 but to be

01:40:19.460 able to sit

01:40:19.980 there all

01:40:21.060 day and

01:40:21.640 just swivel

01:40:23.000 in his

01:40:23.320 chair and

01:40:23.780 just wait

01:40:24.200 for his

01:40:24.520 trip to

01:40:24.900 prison

01:40:25.220 seems like

01:40:25.860 a very

01:40:26.300 anti-climatic

01:40:27.260 end to

01:40:27.800 all of

01:40:28.180 this

01:40:28.500 Matt Murphy

01:40:29.520 it seemed

01:40:29.940 to me

01:40:30.180 that the

01:40:30.520 Gonsalves

01:40:30.960 family had

01:40:31.720 made

01:40:32.060 was making

01:40:32.980 a concerted

01:40:33.700 effort to

01:40:34.560 set the

01:40:35.000 table for

01:40:36.220 this guy to

01:40:37.080 be taken

01:40:37.460 out in

01:40:38.000 prison

01:40:38.260 I mean

01:40:38.800 if there

01:40:39.180 was a

01:40:39.480 theme

01:40:39.820 from the

01:40:40.520 Gonsalves

01:40:41.060 to me

01:40:41.800 that was

01:40:42.660 it

01:40:42.880 Steve

01:40:43.260 Gonsalves

01:40:43.700 saying

01:40:44.120 you picked

01:40:44.860 the wrong

01:40:45.360 families

01:40:45.940 you picked

01:40:46.540 the wrong

01:40:47.100 state

01:40:47.640 you picked

01:40:48.580 the wrong

01:40:49.100 group of

01:40:49.640 people

01:40:49.960 he was

01:40:50.640 basically

01:40:51.240 because I've

01:40:51.800 heard him

01:40:52.040 on other

01:40:52.320 interviews

01:40:52.620 before

01:40:52.960 saying

01:40:53.340 this is

01:40:53.900 someone

01:40:54.180 he's not

01:40:54.860 one of

01:40:55.180 ours

01:40:55.540 he's not

01:40:56.400 from

01:40:56.620 Idaho

01:40:57.000 he came

01:40:57.620 from the

01:40:58.020 east coast

01:40:58.700 and murdered

01:40:59.520 four of

01:41:00.160 ours

01:41:00.620 and I don't

01:41:01.520 think the

01:41:02.120 prisoners are

01:41:02.720 going to take

01:41:03.080 too kindly

01:41:03.700 to that

01:41:04.120 the sister

01:41:04.560 calling him

01:41:05.060 a pedophile

01:41:05.720 then the

01:41:06.660 mother

01:41:07.000 saying

01:41:07.860 explicitly

01:41:08.900 I'm confident

01:41:09.840 that the

01:41:10.660 men in

01:41:10.960 prison will

01:41:11.420 have their

01:41:11.860 way with

01:41:12.340 you in

01:41:12.740 more ways

01:41:13.440 than one

01:41:14.060 and reading

01:41:15.020 Kaylee

01:41:15.960 Gonsalves

01:41:16.420 little sister

01:41:17.660 statement

01:41:18.200 you may

01:41:19.500 have received

01:41:20.060 A's in

01:41:20.620 schools but

01:41:21.340 in prison

01:41:21.840 you'll be

01:41:22.240 getting

01:41:22.500 big D's

01:41:23.440 which everyone

01:41:24.420 laughed at

01:41:25.360 and clapped

01:41:26.040 at

01:41:26.280 I mean the

01:41:26.620 Gonsalves family

01:41:27.260 got a lot

01:41:27.720 of applause

01:41:28.400 in response

01:41:29.440 to those

01:41:29.760 statements

01:41:30.020 it seems

01:41:30.560 clear

01:41:31.020 what this

01:41:31.900 family wants

01:41:32.540 to have

01:41:32.860 happen to

01:41:33.440 Brian Kohlberger

01:41:34.100 next

01:41:34.560 well he'll

01:41:37.220 be in

01:41:37.480 protective

01:41:37.880 custody

01:41:38.380 no doubt

01:41:39.180 and they'll

01:41:40.240 do their

01:41:40.560 best to

01:41:40.980 keep him

01:41:41.360 safe

01:41:41.720 he won't

01:41:42.100 be in

01:41:42.400 general

01:41:42.660 population

01:41:43.240 but look

01:41:45.180 40 plus

01:41:46.460 years is

01:41:46.920 an awful

01:41:47.400 long time

01:41:48.140 and there's

01:41:49.780 he will

01:41:50.460 he's gonna

01:41:50.800 have a target

01:41:51.260 on him

01:41:51.600 and he's

01:41:52.080 gonna have

01:41:52.340 to worry

01:41:52.620 about that

01:41:53.180 and protective

01:41:54.380 custody

01:41:54.860 is

01:41:55.660 it's not

01:41:56.980 infallible

01:41:57.720 and on my

01:41:58.780 Rodney Alcala

01:41:59.340 case

01:41:59.860 he got

01:42:01.020 beat up

01:42:01.300 in the

01:42:01.480 hallway

01:42:01.680 one day

01:42:02.060 when we're

01:42:02.460 in the

01:42:02.660 middle of

01:42:02.920 trial

01:42:03.240 you know

01:42:03.640 they're

01:42:03.800 just

01:42:04.020 taking

01:42:04.560 an

01:42:04.780 inmate

01:42:05.120 past

01:42:05.520 him

01:42:05.700 who

01:42:05.880 had

01:42:06.400 better

01:42:06.600 than

01:42:06.700 spit

01:42:07.100 on

01:42:07.320 him

01:42:07.520 and

01:42:07.700 went

01:42:08.240 off

01:42:08.500 on

01:42:08.700 him

01:42:08.820 so

01:42:09.220 it is

01:42:09.900 you know

01:42:10.360 he will

01:42:10.680 have to

01:42:10.960 look over

01:42:11.340 his

01:42:11.520 shoulder

01:42:11.780 and

01:42:12.360 you know

01:42:13.400 most families

01:42:14.300 they're back

01:42:15.100 in session

01:42:15.540 so hold

01:42:16.100 that thought

01:42:16.480 and we'll

01:42:16.920 get back

01:42:17.280 to court

01:42:17.720 and then

01:42:18.000 back

01:42:18.140 to the

01:42:18.340 panel

01:42:18.520 the next

01:42:21.960 family

01:42:22.280 is the

01:42:22.580 family

01:42:22.880 of

01:42:23.100 Xana

01:42:23.360 Kurnodel

01:42:23.780 and

01:42:24.640 first

01:42:25.000 would

01:42:25.140 be

01:42:25.280 Jasmine

01:42:25.660 Kurnodel

01:42:26.160 Xana's

01:42:27.140 sister

01:42:27.460 thank you

01:42:50.880 to

01:42:51.080 everyone

01:42:51.580 who's

01:42:51.940 been

01:42:52.140 involved

01:42:52.560 in

01:42:52.860 this

01:42:53.260 for all

01:42:55.820 the hard

01:42:56.360 work

01:42:56.700 and dedication

01:42:57.520 I also

01:42:57.980 want to

01:42:59.380 make

01:42:59.560 everyone

01:42:59.980 support

01:43:01.400 and

01:43:02.000 just

01:43:02.300 my

01:43:02.720 family

01:43:03.060 and

01:43:03.280 friends

01:43:03.580 around

01:43:04.580 through

01:43:06.720 this

01:43:07.100 time

01:43:07.720 I went

01:43:10.620 back

01:43:10.980 and forth

01:43:11.500 on whether

01:43:12.260 to speak

01:43:12.740 today

01:43:13.200 because

01:43:13.700 the truth

01:43:14.160 is

01:43:14.640 you don't

01:43:15.700 deserve

01:43:15.980 power

01:43:16.720 over my

01:43:17.180 feelings

01:43:17.760 my words

01:43:18.780 or me

01:43:19.320 thank you

01:43:21.420 in the

01:43:23.080 end

01:43:23.440 I

01:43:24.300 realized

01:43:24.860 this

01:43:25.780 moment

01:43:26.040 isn't

01:43:26.360 about

01:43:26.660 you

01:43:27.060 it's

01:43:27.440 about

01:43:27.780 justice

01:43:28.540 for

01:43:28.820 Xana

01:43:29.240 Ethan

01:43:30.360 Kaylee

01:43:31.180 and

01:43:31.480 Maddie

01:43:31.840 it's

01:43:32.840 about

01:43:33.040 honoring

01:43:33.420 the

01:43:33.980 beautiful

01:43:34.300 people

01:43:35.480 they were

01:43:35.940 and still

01:43:36.380 are

01:43:36.620 in God's

01:43:37.080 eyes

01:43:37.460 on

01:43:38.920 November

01:43:39.220 13th

01:43:40.060 2022

01:43:40.700 peace

01:43:43.280 of my

01:43:43.520 heart

01:43:43.660 was ripped

01:43:44.020 away

01:43:44.400 there's

01:43:45.880 no way

01:43:46.180 to

01:43:46.380 ever

01:43:47.120 fully

01:43:47.420 describe

01:43:47.840 the

01:43:48.020 weight

01:43:48.280 of

01:43:48.540 losing

01:43:48.840 my

01:43:49.080 sister

01:43:49.500 my

01:43:49.780 best

01:43:50.040 friend

01:43:50.360 no

01:43:51.960 sentence

01:43:52.400 or

01:43:52.740 punishment

01:43:53.120 will

01:43:53.420 ever

01:43:53.600 come

01:43:53.860 close

01:43:54.160 to

01:43:54.300 the

01:43:54.440 justice

01:43:55.000 Xana

01:43:55.600 Ethan

01:43:56.220 Kaylee

01:43:56.720 and

01:43:56.880 Maddie

01:43:57.180 deserve

01:43:57.700 Xana

01:44:00.020 was

01:44:00.260 everyone's

01:44:00.780 best

01:44:01.040 friend

01:44:01.480 she

01:44:02.540 was

01:44:02.700 kind

01:44:03.920 she

01:44:04.460 was

01:44:04.620 funny

01:44:04.960 she

01:44:05.780 was

01:44:05.900 a

01:44:06.020 gift

01:44:06.240 to

01:44:06.460 each

01:44:06.640 person

01:44:07.060 she

01:44:07.280 was

01:44:07.440 able

01:44:07.620 to

01:44:07.760 make

01:44:07.920 an

01:44:08.060 impact

01:44:08.420 on

01:44:08.740 Xana

01:44:09.900 was

01:44:10.120 someone

01:44:10.360 I

01:44:10.580 turned

01:44:10.820 to

01:44:11.040 when

01:44:11.220 I

01:44:11.340 needed

01:44:11.520 direction

01:44:12.020 or

01:44:12.320 advice

01:44:12.780 although

01:44:14.040 I

01:44:14.500 am

01:44:14.640 her

01:44:14.820 older

01:44:15.100 sister

01:44:15.600 I

01:44:16.200 often

01:44:16.500 found

01:44:16.840 myself

01:44:17.220 looking

01:44:17.540 up

01:44:17.760 to

01:44:17.880 her

01:44:18.100 she

01:44:19.120 had

01:44:19.260 a

01:44:20.360 love

01:44:21.180 and

01:44:21.520 she

01:44:21.660 always

01:44:21.920 knew

01:44:22.200 the

01:44:22.440 right

01:44:22.620 way

01:44:22.780 to

01:44:22.900 approach

01:44:23.220 a

01:44:23.380 problem

01:44:23.840 she

01:44:25.160 knew

01:44:25.380 how

01:44:25.800 precious

01:44:26.900 and

01:44:27.360 special

01:44:27.780 life

01:44:28.180 was

01:44:28.600 and

01:44:29.480 she

01:44:29.620 truly

01:44:30.040 did

01:44:30.340 live

01:44:30.660 every

01:44:30.940 day

01:44:31.100 to

01:44:31.200 the

01:44:31.340 fullest

01:44:31.720 yet

01:44:33.200 her

01:44:33.460 story

01:44:33.760 was

01:44:34.060 cut

01:44:34.800 short

01:44:35.020 by

01:44:35.240 an

01:44:35.380 act

01:44:35.640 of

01:44:35.820 evil

01:44:36.280 I

01:44:38.880 believe

01:44:39.220 in a

01:44:39.660 God

01:44:39.980 whose

01:44:40.580 justice

01:44:41.100 is not

01:44:41.560 bound

01:44:41.880 by this

01:44:42.380 courtroom

01:44:42.900 I

01:44:44.140 find

01:44:44.440 peace

01:44:44.820 knowing

01:44:45.280 that

01:44:45.620 judgment

01:44:46.040 ultimately

01:44:46.680 belongs

01:44:47.200 to

01:44:47.420 him

01:44:47.700 for

01:44:49.020 your

01:44:49.240 sake

01:44:49.700 I

01:44:50.400 hope

01:44:50.620 one

01:44:50.860 day

01:44:51.120 you

01:44:51.340 feel

01:44:51.500 the

01:44:51.660 full

01:44:51.880 weight

01:44:52.120 of

01:44:52.260 what

01:44:52.460 you

01:44:52.600 did

01:44:52.860 I

01:44:54.420 hope

01:44:54.580 you

01:44:54.700 take

01:44:54.920 accountability

01:44:55.460 I

01:44:56.780 hope

01:44:56.980 you

01:44:57.120 truly

01:44:58.040 experience

01:44:58.840 the

01:44:59.080 guilt

01:44:59.420 and

01:44:59.820 surrender

01:45:00.260 yourself

01:45:00.740 to

01:45:00.960 Jesus

01:45:01.220 Christ

01:45:01.700 because

01:45:02.780 no

01:45:03.060 punishment

01:45:03.500 on

01:45:03.800 this

01:45:04.000 earth

01:45:04.380 can

01:45:04.780 ever

01:45:04.960 compare

01:45:05.260 to

01:45:05.400 the

01:45:05.520 isolation

01:45:05.960 and

01:45:06.220 pain

01:45:06.540 of

01:45:06.860 eternal

01:45:07.560 separation

01:45:08.160 from

01:45:08.460 God

01:45:08.780 Zanna

01:45:11.640 deserved

01:45:12.080 more

01:45:12.620 they

01:45:13.400 all

01:45:13.640 did

01:45:13.940 but

01:45:15.180 I

01:45:15.320 come

01:45:15.520 here

01:45:15.660 to

01:45:15.820 say

01:45:16.060 this

01:45:16.560 I

01:45:18.100 am

01:45:18.320 strong

01:45:18.940 I

01:45:20.020 am

01:45:20.220 brave

01:45:20.760 I'm

01:45:22.020 a

01:45:22.180 fighter

01:45:22.540 just

01:45:23.340 like

01:45:23.600 Zanna

01:45:23.960 and

01:45:25.500 you

01:45:25.600 don't

01:45:25.740 get

01:45:25.860 to

01:45:25.980 control

01:45:26.300 how

01:45:26.520 I

01:45:26.680 move

01:45:26.880 forward

01:45:27.240 or

01:45:27.400 what

01:45:27.560 I

01:45:27.720 believe

01:45:28.160 I

01:45:29.000 walk

01:45:29.280 with

01:45:29.460 the

01:45:29.620 comfort

01:45:29.860 of

01:45:30.220 knowing

01:45:30.420 I

01:45:30.620 will

01:45:30.780 see

01:45:30.940 my

01:45:31.140 sister

01:45:31.480 again

01:45:31.980 Zanna

01:45:34.380 didn't

01:45:34.680 get

01:45:34.900 the

01:45:35.100 future

01:45:35.380 she

01:45:35.580 deserved

01:45:36.160 she

01:45:37.500 won't

01:45:37.660 be

01:45:37.760 the

01:45:37.900 maid

01:45:38.020 of

01:45:38.140 honor

01:45:38.320 at

01:45:38.460 my

01:45:38.600 wedding

01:45:38.920 the

01:45:39.900 cool

01:45:40.260 aunt

01:45:40.640 to

01:45:40.900 my

01:45:41.080 future

01:45:41.420 children

01:45:41.900 I'll

01:45:43.580 never

01:45:43.780 hear

01:45:44.020 her

01:45:44.220 laugh

01:45:44.760 or

01:45:45.640 see

01:45:45.840 her

01:45:46.020 light

01:45:46.440 up

01:45:46.880 a

01:45:47.020 room

01:45:47.180 ever

01:45:47.440 again

01:45:47.920 but

01:45:49.780 I

01:45:49.900 will

01:45:50.080 carry

01:45:50.360 her

01:45:50.560 with

01:45:50.780 me

01:45:50.940 for

01:45:51.080 the

01:45:51.180 rest

01:45:51.380 of

01:45:51.480 my

01:45:51.600 life

01:45:52.000 I

01:45:52.800 will

01:45:52.980 live

01:45:53.200 in

01:45:53.340 her

01:45:53.500 honor

01:45:53.960 fight

01:45:55.100 to

01:45:55.260 be

01:45:55.380 the

01:45:55.540 best

01:45:55.800 kind

01:45:56.180 of

01:45:56.340 woman

01:45:56.700 and

01:45:57.440 someone

01:45:57.660 she's

01:45:57.940 proud

01:45:58.200 of

01:45:58.520 to

01:45:59.120 make

01:45:59.300 sure

01:45:59.500 the

01:45:59.660 world

01:45:59.940 never

01:46:00.440 forgets

01:46:00.880 who

01:46:01.000 she

01:46:01.160 was

01:46:01.560 Zanna's

01:46:03.160 story

01:46:03.500 doesn't

01:46:04.520 end

01:46:04.860 with

01:46:05.080 what

01:46:05.280 was

01:46:05.440 taken

01:46:05.720 from

01:46:06.040 her

01:46:06.260 it

01:46:07.080 lives

01:46:07.380 through

01:46:07.560 the

01:46:07.720 love

01:46:07.880 she

01:46:11.900 protect

01:46:12.360 her

01:46:13.900 light

01:46:14.140 still

01:46:14.400 shines

01:46:14.920 and

01:46:15.880 her

01:46:16.020 voice

01:46:16.300 will

01:46:16.520 echo

01:46:16.840 louder

01:46:17.340 than

01:46:17.600 this

01:46:17.860 pain

01:46:18.260 you

01:46:19.500 didn't

01:46:19.780 take

01:46:20.020 that

01:46:20.260 from us

01:46:20.740 and you

01:46:20.980 never

01:46:21.200 will

01:46:21.540 thank

01:46:23.560 you

01:46:24.160 I

01:46:36.700 just

01:46:36.880 want

01:46:37.000 to

01:46:37.100 say

01:46:37.280 before

01:46:37.500 I

01:46:37.560 start

01:46:37.740 I'm

01:46:37.900 Zanna's

01:46:38.240 dad

01:46:38.640 Jeff

01:46:39.400 Kernodal

01:46:39.840 it's

01:46:43.680 been

01:46:43.820 a

01:46:43.920 hard

01:46:44.080 road

01:46:44.440 down

01:46:45.300 you

01:46:45.500 know

01:46:45.740 because

01:46:46.680 she's

01:46:47.180 gone

01:46:47.580 and

01:46:49.100 I

01:46:51.680 want

01:46:51.820 to

01:46:51.900 thank

01:46:52.060 everybody

01:46:52.460 other

01:46:52.720 their

01:46:52.900 families

01:46:53.240 that

01:46:53.400 speak

01:46:53.860 and so

01:46:54.220 far

01:46:54.620 spoke

01:46:55.120 about

01:46:55.480 things

01:46:56.160 I

01:46:56.760 agree

01:46:56.940 with

01:46:57.120 everything

01:46:57.420 they

01:46:57.580 have

01:46:57.700 to

01:46:57.820 say

01:46:58.060 it

01:46:58.220 all

01:46:58.380 comes

01:46:58.660 back

01:46:59.020 to

01:46:59.300 a

01:47:00.020 lot

01:47:00.140 of

01:47:00.240 the

01:47:00.360 same

01:47:00.560 things

01:47:00.900 that

01:47:01.160 I've

01:47:01.680 had

01:47:01.780 to

01:47:01.900 deal

01:47:02.060 with

01:47:02.320 and

01:47:02.560 we

01:47:03.200 as

01:47:03.320 a

01:47:03.400 family

01:47:03.660 have

01:47:03.800 had

01:47:03.900 to

01:47:04.020 deal

01:47:04.180 with

01:47:04.560 and

01:47:05.840 that

01:47:07.960 brings

01:47:08.180 me

01:47:08.380 you

01:47:09.020 know

01:47:09.180 basis

01:47:09.740 of

01:47:10.180 what

01:47:11.080 I'm

01:47:11.200 talking

01:47:11.400 about

01:47:11.560 a

01:47:11.660 little

01:47:11.760 bit

01:47:11.980 is

01:47:12.160 on

01:47:12.420 my

01:47:12.600 way

01:47:12.780 up

01:47:12.940 here

01:47:13.140 flying

01:47:15.220 up

01:47:15.380 here

01:47:15.480 on

01:47:15.560 the

01:47:15.640 plane

01:47:15.940 and

01:47:16.360 about

01:47:17.960 halfway

01:47:18.240 through

01:47:18.420 the

01:47:18.580 flight

01:47:18.900 there's

01:47:19.340 a

01:47:19.440 little

01:47:19.600 girl

01:47:20.340 calling

01:47:20.920 out

01:47:21.160 for

01:47:21.320 her

01:47:21.460 dad

01:47:21.860 dad

01:47:22.940 dad

01:47:23.280 dad

01:47:23.580 and

01:47:23.820 then

01:47:24.680 in

01:47:24.980 my

01:47:25.360 mind

01:47:25.680 I

01:47:25.820 was

01:47:25.900 kind

01:47:26.040 of

01:47:26.140 asleep

01:47:26.620 it's

01:47:26.760 dark

01:47:27.040 on

01:47:27.180 the

01:47:27.260 plane

01:47:27.540 I

01:47:28.180 heard

01:47:28.420 Zanna

01:47:28.800 calling

01:47:29.720 out

01:47:29.920 for

01:47:30.060 me

01:47:30.240 like

01:47:30.460 she

01:47:30.600 did

01:47:30.860 you

01:47:31.040 know

01:47:31.180 back

01:47:31.480 when

01:47:31.700 she

01:47:31.820 was

01:47:31.960 little

01:47:32.180 five

01:47:33.360 years

01:47:33.600 old

01:47:33.960 and

01:47:35.260 those

01:47:36.260 times

01:47:36.540 were

01:47:36.740 hard

01:47:37.180 it

01:47:39.020 was

01:47:39.180 chaotic

01:47:39.580 but

01:47:40.440 we

01:47:40.620 always

01:47:41.000 had

01:47:41.280 something

01:47:41.660 to

01:47:41.840 work

01:47:42.000 toward

01:47:42.380 that

01:47:43.480 was

01:47:43.620 in

01:47:43.720 a

01:47:43.820 positive

01:47:44.080 direction

01:47:44.680 compared

01:47:47.100 to

01:47:47.440 right

01:47:47.620 now

01:47:48.040 which

01:47:48.580 is

01:47:49.200 necessarily

01:47:49.680 not

01:47:50.040 as

01:47:50.280 positive

01:47:50.600 as

01:47:50.820 that

01:47:51.000 for

01:47:51.200 sure

01:47:51.540 I

01:47:54.860 miss

01:47:56.240 Zanna

01:47:56.460 a lot

01:47:56.980 my

01:47:57.940 life's

01:47:58.220 been

01:47:58.340 changed

01:47:58.740 and

01:47:58.920 Zanna

01:48:01.760 had a

01:48:02.080 great

01:48:02.380 impact

01:48:03.220 on me

01:48:04.100 and

01:48:04.700 the

01:48:04.820 impact

01:48:05.120 was

01:48:05.440 when

01:48:06.380 she

01:48:06.520 was

01:48:06.680 gone

01:48:07.020 I

01:48:07.220 realized

01:48:07.620 how

01:48:07.880 important

01:48:08.320 she

01:48:09.880 was

01:48:10.440 and

01:48:11.860 what

01:48:12.100 she

01:48:12.300 really

01:48:12.800 did

01:48:13.600 for

01:48:13.800 me

01:48:14.140 influenced

01:48:15.080 me

01:48:15.560 was

01:48:16.500 way

01:48:16.980 beyond

01:48:17.300 what I

01:48:17.580 ever

01:48:17.740 thought

01:48:18.080 she

01:48:18.820 called

01:48:19.120 me

01:48:19.300 up

01:48:19.580 on

01:48:20.340 the

01:48:20.460 weekends

01:48:20.940 check

01:48:21.460 on

01:48:21.660 me

01:48:21.880 see

01:48:22.140 who's

01:48:22.400 with

01:48:22.620 me

01:48:22.940 she's

01:48:24.160 like

01:48:24.560 accountability

01:48:26.220 to your

01:48:27.080 youngest

01:48:27.360 daughter

01:48:27.700 and

01:48:28.960 that

01:48:30.920 really

01:48:31.180 made a

01:48:31.620 big

01:48:31.720 difference

01:48:32.080 and

01:48:32.200 made

01:48:32.320 me

01:48:32.400 really

01:48:32.580 think

01:48:32.820 about

01:48:33.040 things

01:48:33.540 and

01:48:33.720 what

01:48:34.000 it's

01:48:35.120 all

01:48:35.280 about

01:48:35.580 you

01:48:35.760 know

01:48:35.980 that's

01:48:38.040 the

01:48:38.400 things

01:48:38.640 that I

01:48:38.980 miss

01:48:39.340 most

01:48:39.720 is

01:48:40.000 those

01:48:40.180 calls

01:48:40.660 on

01:48:41.780 the

01:48:41.880 weekends

01:48:42.240 the

01:48:42.780 calls

01:48:43.060 at

01:48:43.180 what's

01:48:44.420 going

01:48:44.600 on

01:48:44.940 you

01:48:45.640 want

01:48:45.780 to

01:48:45.880 meet

01:48:46.000 my

01:48:46.160 friend

01:48:46.500 you

01:48:47.160 know

01:48:47.400 whoever

01:48:47.820 she

01:48:48.040 was

01:48:48.560 a couple

01:48:48.820 of her

01:48:49.020 friends

01:48:49.280 I

01:48:49.440 meet

01:48:49.720 them

01:48:49.840 talk

01:48:50.080 to

01:48:50.220 them

01:48:50.400 and

01:48:51.280 she

01:48:52.500 always

01:48:52.900 did

01:48:53.180 that

01:48:53.600 and

01:48:54.680 it's

01:48:55.080 pretty

01:48:55.240 cool

01:48:55.600 pretty

01:48:56.040 cool

01:48:56.160 I

01:48:56.260 really

01:48:56.420 miss

01:48:56.620 that

01:48:56.960 and

01:48:57.800 she

01:49:00.860 made a

01:49:02.080 big impact

01:49:02.580 on me

01:49:03.380 on other

01:49:05.040 people

01:49:05.440 her family

01:49:06.020 but

01:49:06.760 the impact

01:49:07.600 that she

01:49:07.920 made

01:49:08.300 is so

01:49:09.620 extensive

01:49:10.200 on what

01:49:10.780 happened

01:49:11.100 here

01:49:11.400 and it

01:49:13.120 goes so

01:49:13.540 far

01:49:13.800 people

01:49:14.080 from

01:49:14.360 everywhere

01:49:14.720 in the

01:49:15.680 world

01:49:16.080 are

01:49:17.940 following

01:49:19.020 things

01:49:19.420 and

01:49:19.860 Xana

01:49:20.760 has

01:49:20.940 made

01:49:21.100 a

01:49:21.260 difference

01:49:21.580 in

01:49:21.720 their

01:49:21.860 lives

01:49:22.280 countless

01:49:24.040 people

01:49:24.400 told me

01:49:24.680 that

01:49:24.840 they

01:49:25.500 might

01:49:25.740 not

01:49:25.880 even

01:49:26.620 know

01:49:26.860 her

01:49:27.000 they

01:49:27.220 never

01:49:27.480 knew

01:49:27.680 anything

01:49:27.900 about

01:49:28.160 her

01:49:28.280 it's

01:49:28.500 what

01:49:28.680 they

01:49:28.860 see

01:49:29.180 and

01:49:29.920 they

01:49:30.080 just

01:49:30.280 love

01:49:33.460 her

01:49:33.660 and say

01:49:34.080 how they

01:49:34.540 wish

01:49:34.720 she could

01:49:35.260 have been

01:49:35.460 their

01:49:35.620 friend

01:49:36.020 could have

01:49:38.820 been

01:49:38.920 their

01:49:39.100 friend

01:49:39.400 could

01:49:39.640 hung

01:49:40.140 out

01:49:40.420 and

01:49:40.660 it's

01:49:40.820 like

01:49:41.080 this

01:49:42.760 is

01:49:42.880 a

01:49:43.460 blessing

01:49:43.800 you

01:49:43.980 know

01:49:44.100 this

01:49:44.280 is

01:49:44.360 the

01:49:44.460 kid

01:49:44.780 was

01:49:45.160 and

01:49:45.540 definitely

01:49:47.420 was a

01:49:47.840 big

01:49:48.040 blessing

01:49:48.680 in my

01:49:49.840 life

01:49:50.260 and so

01:49:50.980 was

01:49:52.080 Jasmine

01:49:52.720 and

01:49:54.220 basically

01:49:59.460 you know

01:50:01.000 we worked

01:50:01.380 hard

01:50:01.700 to do

01:50:02.280 the things

01:50:02.600 we did

01:50:03.200 except

01:50:03.700 you know

01:50:04.180 through the

01:50:04.540 times

01:50:04.800 they were

01:50:05.020 growing up

01:50:05.580 and

01:50:06.820 through

01:50:11.420 those

01:50:11.660 times

01:50:12.020 I

01:50:12.600 realized

01:50:13.480 that

01:50:13.920 I

01:50:15.460 wanted

01:50:15.660 both

01:50:15.900 of

01:50:16.000 them

01:50:16.100 to

01:50:16.220 graduate

01:50:16.480 college

01:50:17.080 and

01:50:18.400 that

01:50:18.560 would

01:50:18.640 be

01:50:18.700 the

01:50:18.840 ultimate

01:50:19.060 thing

01:50:19.420 for

01:50:19.600 them

01:50:19.840 to

01:50:20.540 do

01:50:20.720 to

01:50:20.880 prepare

01:50:21.160 for

01:50:21.340 the

01:50:21.460 world

01:50:21.860 then

01:50:23.500 it

01:50:23.680 came

01:50:25.880 back

01:50:26.120 to me

01:50:26.480 Santa

01:50:27.960 didn't

01:50:28.260 get

01:50:28.420 to

01:50:28.560 finish

01:50:28.880 college

01:50:29.400 she

01:50:31.500 had

01:50:32.300 it

01:50:32.420 all

01:50:32.580 figured

01:50:32.860 out

01:50:33.280 quick

01:50:36.500 break

01:50:36.840 we'll

01:50:37.180 be

01:50:37.320 right

01:50:37.540 back

01:50:37.800 with

01:50:38.020 ongoing

01:50:38.380 coverage

01:50:38.820 of

01:50:39.220 the

01:50:39.400 sentencing

01:50:39.940 hearing

01:50:40.320 of

01:50:40.960 Brian

01:50:41.320 Kohlberger

01:50:41.860 confessed

01:50:42.540 killer

01:50:42.940 of

01:50:43.400 the

01:50:43.500 Idaho

01:50:43.760 four

01:50:44.060 what

01:50:44.600 does

01:50:44.720 feeling

01:50:44.980 safe

01:50:45.440 at

01:50:45.640 home

01:50:45.940 really

01:50:46.340 mean

01:50:46.560 to

01:50:46.720 you

01:50:46.980 having

01:50:47.740 good

01:50:48.000 locks

01:50:48.400 maybe

01:50:49.020 an

01:50:49.180 alarm

01:50:49.520 that

01:50:49.740 would

01:50:49.920 you

01:50:50.020 know

01:50:50.160 make

01:50:50.480 a lot

01:50:50.700 of

01:50:50.800 noise

01:50:51.060 if

01:50:51.220 someone

01:50:51.420 actually

01:50:51.700 broke

01:50:51.980 in

01:50:52.220 but

01:50:53.060 true

01:50:53.340 security

01:50:53.800 actually

01:50:54.160 takes

01:50:54.400 more

01:50:54.720 takes

01:50:55.520 a

01:50:55.660 system

01:50:55.860 that

01:50:56.040 works

01:50:56.240 to

01:50:56.440 prevent

01:50:56.860 the

01:50:57.320 break

01:50:57.540 in

01:50:57.640 in

01:50:57.660 the

01:50:57.800 first

01:50:58.000 place

01:50:58.300 that

01:50:58.860 violation

01:50:59.320 of

01:50:59.540 your

01:50:59.640 space

01:50:59.940 from

01:51:00.140 ever

01:51:00.520 happening

01:51:00.920 now

01:51:01.660 I

01:51:01.720 want

01:51:01.820 to

01:51:01.900 tell

01:51:02.020 you

01:51:02.120 about

01:51:02.360 simply

01:51:02.760 safe

01:51:03.120 it's

01:51:03.880 about

01:51:04.060 security

01:51:04.460 that's

01:51:04.760 proactive

01:51:05.160 not

01:51:05.440 just

01:51:05.680 reactive

01:51:06.140 most

01:51:07.120 security

01:51:07.460 systems

01:51:07.860 respond

01:51:08.260 only

01:51:08.600 after

01:51:08.880 a

01:51:09.020 break

01:51:09.220 in

01:51:09.340 but

01:51:09.600 simply

01:51:10.060 safe

01:51:10.440 new

01:51:10.840 active

01:51:11.320 guard

01:51:11.660 outdoor

01:51:12.160 protection

01:51:12.660 helps

01:51:13.400 stop

01:51:13.780 crime

01:51:14.080 before

01:51:14.360 it

01:51:14.560 starts

01:51:14.900 AI

01:51:15.820 powered

01:51:16.240 cameras

01:51:16.740 and

01:51:17.240 live

01:51:17.560 monitoring

01:51:18.040 agents

01:51:18.620 detect

01:51:19.000 suspicious

01:51:19.440 activity

01:51:19.960 if

01:51:20.640 someone's

01:51:21.040 lurking

01:51:21.420 agents

01:51:22.380 engage

01:51:22.980 in real

01:51:23.620 time

01:51:24.060 activate

01:51:24.820 spotlights

01:51:25.460 and can

01:51:26.120 call

01:51:26.340 police

01:51:26.740 proactively

01:51:27.480 deterring

01:51:28.000 the intruders

01:51:28.540 no

01:51:29.220 contacts

01:51:29.820 contracts

01:51:30.700 I should

01:51:30.980 say

01:51:31.200 no

01:51:31.480 hidden

01:51:31.960 fees

01:51:32.340 named

01:51:33.080 best

01:51:33.540 home

01:51:33.840 security

01:51:34.240 system

01:51:34.600 of

01:51:34.740 2025

01:51:35.220 by

01:51:35.700 CNET

01:51:36.140 trust

01:51:37.240 to pay

01:51:37.460 over

01:51:37.640 4 million

01:51:38.200 Americans

01:51:38.720 monitoring

01:51:39.680 plans

01:51:40.140 started

01:51:40.440 around

01:51:40.740 $1

01:51:41.120 a day

01:51:41.880 includes

01:51:42.800 a

01:51:43.180 60

01:51:43.620 day

01:51:43.860 money

01:51:44.100 back

01:51:44.320 guarantee

01:51:44.720 visit

01:51:45.600 simply

01:51:46.140 safe

01:51:46.440 dot com

01:51:46.860 slash

01:51:47.100 Megan

01:51:47.400 simply

01:51:47.900 spelled

01:51:48.280 S-I-M-P-L-I

01:51:49.680 safe

01:51:50.420 dot com

01:51:50.860 slash

01:51:51.080 Megan

01:51:51.340 to claim

01:51:51.640 50%

01:51:52.220 off

01:51:52.580 a new

01:51:53.400 system

01:51:53.720 with a

01:51:54.020 professional

01:51:54.460 monitoring

01:51:54.960 plan

01:51:55.420 and get

01:51:56.120 your first

01:51:56.540 month

01:51:56.940 free

01:51:57.300 simply

01:51:57.980 safe

01:51:58.300 dot com

01:51:58.700 slash

01:51:58.940 Megan

01:51:59.220 there's

01:51:59.740 no

01:51:59.900 safe

01:52:00.220 like

01:52:00.600 simply

01:52:01.040 safe

01:52:01.380 cozy

01:52:02.160 earth's

01:52:02.600 mission

01:52:02.840 is to

01:52:03.400 transform

01:52:03.900 your

01:52:04.200 five

01:52:04.880 to

01:52:05.080 nine

01:52:05.480 the

01:52:05.960 time

01:52:06.180 that

01:52:06.320 matters

01:52:06.540 most

01:52:06.940 into

01:52:07.520 the

01:52:07.660 most

01:52:07.840 comfortable

01:52:08.160 part

01:52:08.440 of

01:52:08.520 the

01:52:08.600 day

01:52:08.800 their

01:52:09.440 bamboo

01:52:09.820 sheets

01:52:10.200 are

01:52:10.460 a

01:52:10.640 total

01:52:11.160 game

01:52:11.720 changer

01:52:12.200 made

01:52:12.820 from

01:52:13.040 viscose

01:52:13.520 from

01:52:13.720 bamboo

01:52:14.120 their

01:52:14.340 temperature

01:52:14.820 regulating

01:52:15.360 helping

01:52:15.680 you

01:52:15.900 sleep

01:52:16.160 several

01:52:16.620 degrees

01:52:17.160 cooler

01:52:17.560 I have

01:52:18.340 never

01:52:18.580 slept

01:52:18.920 better

01:52:19.260 science

01:52:20.400 backs

01:52:20.860 it up

01:52:21.180 cooler

01:52:21.720 sleep

01:52:22.080 environments

01:52:22.520 help

01:52:22.780 your

01:52:22.920 body

01:52:23.280 naturally

01:52:24.000 lower

01:52:24.340 its

01:52:27.300 so

01:52:27.680 you

01:52:27.820 fall

01:52:28.020 asleep

01:52:28.380 faster

01:52:28.860 and

01:52:29.140 you

01:52:29.260 sleep

01:52:29.540 deeper

01:52:30.020 and

01:52:30.700 if

01:52:30.820 you

01:52:30.900 deal

01:52:31.080 with

01:52:31.260 night

01:52:31.460 sweats

01:52:31.760 these

01:52:32.200 sheets

01:52:32.460 can

01:52:32.620 make

01:52:32.760 a

01:52:32.860 huge

01:52:33.100 difference

01:52:33.500 cozy

01:52:34.280 earth

01:52:34.520 makes

01:52:34.760 it

01:52:34.920 easy

01:52:35.260 to

01:52:35.460 try

01:52:35.660 them

01:52:35.860 risk

01:52:36.160 free

01:52:36.440 you

01:52:36.860 get

01:52:36.980 a

01:52:37.100 100

01:52:37.400 night

01:52:37.640 sleep

01:52:37.860 trial

01:52:38.180 test

01:52:38.900 them

01:52:39.040 out

01:52:39.260 on

01:52:39.520 the

01:52:39.660 hottest

01:52:39.900 nights

01:52:40.160 of

01:52:40.280 the

01:52:40.360 year

01:52:40.580 if

01:52:41.120 you're

01:52:41.220 not

01:52:41.400 in

01:52:41.540 love

01:52:41.780 return

01:52:42.140 them

01:52:42.400 hassle

01:52:42.780 free

01:52:43.060 but

01:52:43.440 I

01:52:43.540 doubt

01:52:43.680 you're

01:52:43.820 going

01:52:43.900 to

01:52:44.240 plus

01:52:44.920 there's

01:52:45.140 a

01:52:45.240 10

01:52:45.460 year

01:52:45.620 warranty

01:52:46.040 that's

01:52:46.560 decade

01:52:47.020 of

01:52:47.360 cool

01:52:47.780 quality

01:52:48.200 sleep

01:52:48.620 upgrade

01:52:49.520 your

01:52:49.780 summer

01:52:50.040 go

01:52:50.300 to

01:52:50.460 cozy

01:52:50.840 earth

01:52:51.140 dot

01:52:51.400 com

01:52:51.720 and

01:52:52.340 I'm

01:52:52.520 telling

01:52:52.880 you

01:52:53.220 use

01:52:54.320 the

01:52:54.540 code

01:52:54.920 Megan

01:52:55.560 to

01:52:56.500 get

01:52:56.700 up

01:52:56.920 to

01:52:57.060 40

01:52:57.660 percent

01:52:58.200 off

01:52:58.740 their

01:52:59.260 best

01:52:59.540 selling

01:52:59.780 temperature

01:53:00.120 regulating

01:53:00.520 sheets

01:53:00.820 apparel

01:53:01.060 and more

01:53:01.260 I

01:53:01.800 recently

01:53:02.360 bought

01:53:02.740 a bunch

01:53:03.220 of

01:53:03.420 cozy

01:53:03.720 earth

01:53:04.060 and

01:53:04.960 I

01:53:05.180 almost

01:53:05.660 forgot

01:53:06.060 to

01:53:06.360 use

01:53:06.640 the

01:53:06.800 code

01:53:06.980 Megan

01:53:07.300 at

01:53:07.960 the

01:53:08.140 last

01:53:08.520 minute

01:53:08.800 I

01:53:09.740 type

01:53:10.200 it

01:53:10.340 in

01:53:10.600 and

01:53:11.140 my

01:53:11.340 order

01:53:11.660 was

01:53:11.880 cut

01:53:12.200 virtually

01:53:12.980 in

01:53:13.580 half

01:53:14.020 I

01:53:14.840 couldn't

01:53:15.180 believe

01:53:15.440 how good

01:53:15.680 the

01:53:15.800 discount

01:53:16.080 was

01:53:16.260 I

01:53:16.400 know

01:53:17.080 I

01:53:17.260 talk

01:53:17.540 about

01:53:17.720 it

01:53:17.820 every

01:53:17.980 day

01:53:18.220 but

01:53:18.660 people

01:53:18.980 it's

01:53:19.340 real

01:53:19.660 go

01:53:20.180 on

01:53:20.420 there

01:53:20.600 next

01:53:20.880 time

01:53:21.020 you

01:53:21.140 need

01:53:21.320 sheets

01:53:21.620 if

01:53:21.760 you

01:53:21.900 want

01:53:22.100 some

01:53:22.280 pajamas

01:53:22.740 if

01:53:23.320 you

01:53:23.400 need

01:53:23.520 some

01:53:23.680 loungewear

01:53:24.460 check

01:53:25.300 it

01:53:25.660 out

01:53:26.020 it

01:53:26.640 that

01:53:26.960 40%

01:53:27.560 is

01:53:27.920 huge

01:53:28.900 check

01:53:29.840 it

01:53:29.940 out

01:53:30.160 sleep

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01:53:31.860 stay

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01:55:25.180 is those

01:55:25.500 memories

01:55:25.920 and those

01:55:27.120 are what

01:55:27.340 I have

01:55:27.600 left

01:55:27.960 the memories

01:55:28.520 with her

01:55:29.000 and the

01:55:29.400 ones I

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01:55:29.980 with her

01:55:30.420 and the

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01:55:33.360 which is

01:55:35.680 what she

01:55:35.980 wants

01:55:36.460 and

01:55:39.280 I say

01:55:40.100 that in

01:55:40.560 present

01:55:40.820 sense

01:55:41.160 because

01:55:41.340 that's

01:55:41.560 what she

01:55:41.780 wants

01:55:42.060 because

01:55:42.340 I've been

01:55:44.720 told that

01:55:45.180 you know

01:55:45.540 I've had

01:55:46.100 countless

01:55:46.700 ways

01:55:47.140 that she's

01:55:48.080 out there

01:55:49.340 and has

01:55:51.000 a way

01:55:51.560 to communicate

01:55:52.320 which I'm

01:55:54.040 very grateful

01:55:54.480 for

01:55:55.520 that goes

01:56:01.200 to say

01:56:01.720 that

01:56:03.340 the impact

01:56:07.260 of what

01:56:07.900 happened

01:56:08.340 to them

01:56:08.840 all the

01:56:10.180 four kids

01:56:10.820 goes so

01:56:12.020 much further

01:56:12.620 than just

01:56:13.420 not

01:56:13.840 me

01:56:14.780 the parents

01:56:15.960 the families

01:56:17.080 the community

01:56:18.620 it goes

01:56:20.080 so far

01:56:20.900 because

01:56:21.840 a lot

01:56:24.000 of kids

01:56:24.460 you know

01:56:24.920 in the

01:56:25.220 colleges

01:56:25.580 just for

01:56:26.340 an example

01:56:26.780 they locked

01:56:27.740 their doors

01:56:28.100 now

01:56:28.380 the door

01:56:29.140 wasn't

01:56:29.360 locked

01:56:29.600 in the

01:56:29.820 back

01:56:30.060 you know

01:56:30.820 Penn State

01:56:31.440 or wherever

01:56:31.860 it was

01:56:32.340 all the

01:56:33.060 colleges

01:56:33.360 I know

01:56:33.820 that

01:56:34.100 I've heard

01:56:35.080 they all

01:56:35.460 locked

01:56:35.660 their doors

01:56:36.000 now

01:56:36.260 so maybe

01:56:37.340 the impact

01:56:38.620 that it's

01:56:38.920 going to

01:56:39.120 make

01:56:39.380 is going

01:56:39.720 to help

01:56:40.100 out

01:56:40.400 and maybe

01:56:41.220 protect

01:56:41.620 some

01:56:41.880 people

01:56:42.220 having

01:56:43.460 this

01:56:43.740 outreach

01:56:44.180 and having

01:56:44.940 the influence

01:56:45.500 of what

01:56:45.920 these kids

01:56:46.380 what happened

01:56:46.940 these kids

01:56:47.460 did

01:56:48.220 all I know

01:56:51.960 is I was

01:56:52.260 seven miles

01:56:52.640 away

01:56:52.880 when it

01:56:53.140 happened

01:56:53.500 and I

01:56:54.820 had a

01:56:55.820 she wasn't

01:56:56.600 feeling that

01:56:57.060 good

01:56:57.380 it was

01:56:58.040 1130

01:56:58.600 and I

01:56:59.300 almost

01:56:59.660 went over

01:57:00.040 to Susanna's

01:57:00.920 to say

01:57:01.340 and I

01:57:02.060 would have

01:57:02.220 been sitting

01:57:02.560 right there

01:57:03.140 in that

01:57:03.840 couch

01:57:04.220 and you

01:57:05.340 wanted to

01:57:05.600 deal with

01:57:05.960 me

01:57:06.260 so they

01:57:07.720 would have

01:57:07.940 had a chance

01:57:08.460 and I

01:57:08.860 regret that

01:57:09.540 and regret

01:57:10.000 not going

01:57:10.980 but the

01:57:11.820 reason why

01:57:12.220 I didn't

01:57:13.200 is because

01:57:13.940 Susanna said

01:57:14.460 don't be

01:57:15.240 drinking and

01:57:15.660 driving

01:57:15.980 got the

01:57:17.220 rental car

01:57:17.700 don't be

01:57:18.180 drinking and

01:57:18.520 driving

01:57:18.760 you know

01:57:19.060 the week

01:57:19.360 before that

01:57:19.960 so she

01:57:20.740 she was

01:57:21.560 she would

01:57:23.080 have been

01:57:23.260 mad at me

01:57:23.820 to do that

01:57:24.560 but I

01:57:25.300 really wish

01:57:25.820 I would

01:57:26.040 have drunk

01:57:26.400 and drove

01:57:27.700 you know

01:57:28.240 because

01:57:29.580 they would

01:57:30.320 have had

01:57:30.480 a chance

01:57:30.920 all four

01:57:31.340 of them

01:57:32.100 at this

01:57:36.600 point

01:57:36.940 I just

01:57:39.160 have to

01:57:39.460 go on

01:57:39.980 we're going

01:57:40.540 with everything

01:57:41.200 it makes

01:57:43.180 things better

01:57:43.780 in my life

01:57:44.780 because that's

01:57:45.160 what it's

01:57:46.100 all about

01:57:46.600 closure

01:57:47.520 and things

01:57:49.500 and the

01:57:51.320 part that

01:57:51.720 we miss

01:57:52.200 is Santa

01:57:52.880 her influence

01:57:54.240 her smile

01:57:54.880 the things

01:57:56.160 that she

01:57:56.480 did

01:57:56.900 and we

01:57:59.500 have the

01:57:59.800 memories

01:58:00.080 left

01:58:00.500 the great

01:58:01.820 memories

01:58:02.240 and she

01:58:04.440 just wants

01:58:05.000 us to

01:58:06.120 make more

01:58:06.460 memories

01:58:06.660 that's all

01:58:09.980 I got

01:58:10.320 thank you

01:58:11.040 for your

01:58:11.700 words and

01:58:12.540 your courage

01:58:13.000 and bless

01:58:13.380 your family

01:58:13.900 next

01:58:25.960 Kim

01:58:26.340 would

01:58:26.920 like

01:58:27.080 to

01:58:27.200 address

01:58:27.440 the

01:58:27.620 court

01:58:27.840 thank you

01:58:55.300 your honor

01:58:55.680 my name

01:58:56.180 is Kim

01:58:56.520 Kurnodel

01:58:56.940 I am

01:58:58.060 Zanna's

01:58:58.480 aunt

01:58:58.820 I was

01:59:00.420 very blessed

01:59:01.060 to have

01:59:01.520 her

01:59:01.860 in my

01:59:03.280 life

01:59:03.760 and our

01:59:04.620 family

01:59:05.100 and I

01:59:08.260 thought I

01:59:08.580 had everything

01:59:09.080 in my head

01:59:09.800 what I

01:59:10.120 wanted to

01:59:10.560 say

01:59:10.860 but it

01:59:12.300 kind of

01:59:12.600 went out

01:59:13.060 and I

01:59:15.500 try

01:59:15.720 I'm

01:59:16.540 always

01:59:16.840 looking

01:59:17.120 for the

01:59:17.440 positive

01:59:17.820 thing

01:59:18.320 because

01:59:19.900 evil

01:59:21.320 hate

01:59:22.200 can destroy

01:59:23.860 people

01:59:24.380 and that's

01:59:26.640 what it

01:59:26.980 started doing

01:59:27.680 with our

01:59:28.180 family

01:59:28.660 it created

01:59:30.480 anger

01:59:31.560 with our

01:59:32.420 family members

01:59:33.300 and then

01:59:38.420 I had to

01:59:38.900 look

01:59:39.260 because

01:59:40.400 Santa was

01:59:40.840 everything

01:59:41.380 that the

01:59:42.440 media

01:59:42.780 her friends

01:59:43.720 said

01:59:44.100 she was

01:59:45.360 that

01:59:45.720 fun

01:59:47.140 loving

01:59:47.960 high

01:59:49.220 spirited

01:59:49.700 beautiful

01:59:50.820 person

01:59:51.520 and I

01:59:53.880 no longer

01:59:54.320 get to

01:59:54.680 get my

01:59:55.100 nails done

01:59:55.680 with her

01:59:56.060 have lunch

01:59:57.360 with her

01:59:57.800 sorry

02:00:04.760 but how

02:00:07.020 I look

02:00:07.400 at it

02:00:07.700 now

02:00:08.040 is this

02:00:09.600 tragedy

02:00:10.180 this horrible

02:00:11.660 tragedy

02:00:12.240 on all

02:00:13.180 of our

02:00:13.600 the four

02:00:14.860 children

02:00:15.380 has brought

02:00:17.480 us closer

02:00:18.160 you united

02:00:19.920 us

02:00:20.320 with your

02:00:21.380 actions

02:00:22.040 we're united

02:00:23.920 now

02:00:24.300 and we're

02:00:24.800 stronger

02:00:25.240 than ever

02:00:25.720 we have

02:00:27.220 family

02:00:27.720 and friends

02:00:28.480 now that

02:00:28.900 we never

02:00:29.500 knew we

02:00:30.060 had

02:00:30.460 and

02:00:32.940 you know

02:00:33.900 this is

02:00:34.540 probably

02:00:35.000 going to

02:00:35.840 bother

02:00:36.740 everybody

02:00:37.220 but Brian

02:00:37.800 I'm here

02:00:38.880 today

02:00:39.220 to tell

02:00:40.200 you I

02:00:40.640 have forgiven

02:00:41.240 you

02:00:41.600 because I

02:00:42.540 no longer

02:00:43.300 could live

02:00:44.720 with that

02:00:45.180 hate in

02:00:46.080 my heart

02:00:46.740 and for me

02:00:47.840 to become

02:00:48.280 a better

02:00:48.600 person

02:00:49.140 I have

02:00:50.300 forgiven

02:00:50.620 you

02:00:50.940 and anytime

02:00:52.680 you want

02:00:53.240 to talk

02:00:53.620 and tell

02:00:53.940 me what

02:00:54.260 happened

02:00:54.700 get my

02:00:55.720 number

02:00:56.060 I'm here

02:00:57.020 no judgment

02:00:58.200 because I

02:00:59.360 do have

02:00:59.780 answers

02:01:00.300 or questions

02:01:01.440 that I

02:01:01.920 want you

02:01:02.220 to answer

02:01:02.740 and

02:01:05.180 I'm here

02:01:06.120 I'll be

02:01:07.000 that one

02:01:07.500 that'll

02:01:07.780 listen to

02:01:08.280 you

02:01:08.480 okay

02:01:09.600 thank you

02:01:11.440 your honor

02:01:11.780 thank you

02:01:12.160 very much

02:01:12.580 my name

02:01:14.780 my name is

02:01:14.900 Stratton

02:01:15.220 and I'm

02:01:16.280 Zanna's

02:01:16.840 uncle

02:01:17.260 Jeff's

02:01:18.660 brother

02:01:18.920 sitting here

02:01:21.960 today

02:01:22.260 listening

02:01:22.640 all the

02:01:23.580 stories

02:01:25.200 and feelings

02:01:26.340 and feeling

02:01:27.620 the pain

02:01:28.280 from everybody

02:01:30.060 is pretty

02:01:31.920 a pretty

02:01:33.020 powerful thing

02:01:33.860 it's

02:01:34.440 each

02:01:34.980 each time

02:01:36.220 a statement

02:01:36.900 was

02:01:37.340 read

02:01:38.720 it

02:01:40.060 sort of

02:01:41.620 would tug

02:01:42.060 into my

02:01:42.660 center core

02:01:43.420 as I

02:01:44.320 felt

02:01:44.840 everybody's

02:01:45.480 anguish

02:01:45.960 and

02:01:48.700 Zanna

02:01:50.340 meant a lot

02:01:51.680 to us

02:01:52.120 and we

02:01:53.060 loved her

02:01:53.420 very much

02:01:54.040 but I

02:01:56.140 started thinking

02:01:56.680 about

02:01:57.140 instead of

02:01:58.880 rehashing

02:02:00.620 everything

02:02:01.100 that everybody

02:02:01.700 else has

02:02:02.240 talked about

02:02:03.380 I wanted

02:02:05.240 to direct

02:02:05.820 it another

02:02:06.360 direction

02:02:07.000 toward Brian

02:02:09.340 and what

02:02:10.500 he's done

02:02:10.940 to his

02:02:11.360 family

02:02:11.860 his parents

02:02:14.160 his siblings

02:02:15.540 his friends

02:02:17.560 his universe

02:02:20.020 he has

02:02:21.220 contaminated

02:02:22.100 tainted

02:02:23.520 their family

02:02:24.540 name

02:02:25.100 and pretty

02:02:26.680 much

02:02:27.100 made

02:02:27.960 a horrible

02:02:29.920 miserable

02:02:30.800 thing to be

02:02:32.540 ever related

02:02:33.300 to him

02:02:33.940 and I

02:02:34.820 know that

02:02:35.260 that's what

02:02:35.700 he has

02:02:36.100 to live

02:02:36.480 with

02:02:36.780 and that

02:02:37.800 has to

02:02:38.140 be his

02:02:38.560 pain

02:02:38.980 and that's

02:02:41.400 all I have to say

02:02:41.980 thank you

02:02:43.300 next your

02:02:49.500 honor

02:02:49.640 I believe

02:02:50.020 Randy Davis

02:02:50.840 stepfather

02:02:51.720 to Zanna

02:02:52.140 Cronota

02:02:52.480 would like

02:02:52.820 to address

02:02:53.180 the court

02:02:53.580 hi my name's

02:03:06.320 Randy

02:03:06.700 stepdad

02:03:08.100 of Zanna

02:03:08.520 I just

02:03:10.180 feel the same

02:03:11.000 way we all

02:03:11.460 do

02:03:11.720 all of us

02:03:13.000 are united

02:03:13.860 because of

02:03:15.380 something that

02:03:15.860 happened

02:03:16.200 and I am

02:03:17.180 grateful to

02:03:18.180 know

02:03:18.820 and have

02:03:20.380 met some

02:03:20.980 new family

02:03:21.720 because of

02:03:22.800 this awful

02:03:23.580 event

02:03:24.120 but this

02:03:26.320 is probably

02:03:26.700 the last

02:03:27.180 time we're

02:03:27.640 all going to

02:03:27.940 be in the

02:03:28.340 same room

02:03:28.920 together

02:03:29.300 let's be

02:03:29.820 real

02:03:30.200 so I can

02:03:31.060 say I

02:03:32.000 love you

02:03:32.620 all and I

02:03:34.020 feel your

02:03:34.360 pain

02:03:34.820 and just

02:03:36.920 God bless us

02:03:37.660 all you know

02:03:38.840 just get

02:03:40.300 through it

02:03:40.920 I had

02:03:43.840 stuff wrote

02:03:44.460 up it was

02:03:44.900 probably best

02:03:45.840 I didn't

02:03:46.200 read it

02:03:46.600 out

02:03:46.860 probably get

02:03:48.720 kicked out

02:03:49.200 of here

02:03:49.480 so

02:03:49.900 you know

02:03:54.580 I'll share

02:03:55.500 one thing

02:03:56.180 to you

02:03:57.080 guys

02:03:57.580 not to

02:03:58.480 you

02:03:58.880 with

02:04:00.360 Zanna

02:04:00.700 so

02:04:02.660 I was

02:04:04.140 working in

02:04:04.620 North Dakota

02:04:05.200 and came

02:04:05.740 home

02:04:06.180 and

02:04:08.140 Jazzy

02:04:08.860 and Zanna

02:04:09.340 had

02:04:09.640 taken

02:04:11.280 our son

02:04:11.820 Elijah

02:04:12.280 and put

02:04:13.940 him in

02:04:14.140 a dress

02:04:14.780 makeup

02:04:17.020 and it

02:04:17.560 was

02:04:17.760 it was

02:04:18.180 awful

02:04:18.640 you know

02:04:19.560 I was

02:04:21.100 like I

02:04:21.500 just

02:04:21.740 I

02:04:22.140 I don't

02:04:23.220 know

02:04:23.400 she was

02:04:23.900 funny

02:04:24.340 I told

02:04:25.080 her she'd

02:04:25.440 be in

02:04:26.640 the movies

02:04:27.120 and be

02:04:27.540 somebody

02:04:27.880 great

02:04:28.260 one day

02:04:28.620 like that

02:04:29.260 and now

02:04:29.820 she is

02:04:30.340 just above

02:04:31.100 us as an

02:04:31.620 angel with

02:04:32.140 all the

02:04:32.540 other

02:04:32.720 beautiful

02:04:33.040 kids

02:04:33.440 so

02:04:33.940 let's

02:04:34.980 hold that

02:04:35.540 to our

02:04:35.880 hearts

02:04:36.280 because

02:04:37.120 this evil

02:04:38.440 thing

02:04:38.820 is not

02:04:39.480 going to

02:04:39.700 take

02:04:39.940 nothing

02:04:40.560 from

02:04:41.360 us

02:04:41.860 you

02:04:43.100 man

02:04:44.420 I don't

02:04:45.700 know what

02:04:45.980 my limits

02:04:46.520 are here

02:04:47.120 but I'm

02:04:48.220 really

02:04:48.680 struggling

02:04:49.420 dude

02:04:49.900 I am

02:04:50.920 struggling

02:04:51.560 so I

02:04:51.840 want to

02:04:52.140 welcome back

02:04:53.240 to the

02:04:53.460 Megyn Kelly

02:04:53.880 show

02:04:54.140 we're listening

02:04:54.560 here to

02:04:54.940 Zanna

02:04:55.200 Kurnodal's

02:04:55.980 stepdad

02:04:57.140 Randy

02:04:57.540 I'm not

02:04:58.800 I believe

02:04:59.240 I love

02:04:59.700 God

02:05:00.140 I wouldn't

02:05:00.720 take your

02:05:01.160 life

02:05:01.540 that's up

02:05:02.000 to him

02:05:02.500 but I

02:05:03.640 guarantee

02:05:04.220 you

02:05:04.620 you are

02:05:05.200 weak

02:05:05.740 God

02:05:07.080 I would

02:05:07.980 just

02:05:08.240 give a

02:05:09.420 moment

02:05:09.760 man

02:05:10.080 five minutes

02:05:10.680 out the

02:05:11.020 woods

02:05:11.360 man

02:05:14.040 you're

02:05:16.260 gonna go

02:05:16.680 to hell

02:05:17.260 I know

02:05:18.440 people believe

02:05:19.160 in other

02:05:19.520 stuff

02:05:20.020 you're

02:05:20.580 evil

02:05:21.240 there's

02:05:22.000 no place

02:05:22.520 for you

02:05:22.840 in heaven

02:05:23.320 you took

02:05:24.460 our

02:05:24.720 children

02:05:25.140 you are

02:05:27.560 gonna

02:05:27.840 suffer

02:05:28.460 man

02:05:28.940 I'm

02:05:30.480 shaking

02:05:30.920 because I

02:05:31.260 want to

02:05:31.580 reach out

02:05:32.080 to you

02:05:32.380 but I

02:05:32.740 just

02:05:32.980 I hope

02:05:33.400 you feel

02:05:33.900 my energy

02:05:34.760 okay

02:05:35.140 go to

02:05:36.460 hell

02:05:36.720 next is

02:05:49.820 Kara

02:05:50.100 Northington

02:05:50.900 Zanna's

02:05:51.540 mother

02:06:03.900 this letter

02:06:22.520 is to

02:06:22.820 you

02:06:23.000 really

02:06:23.400 but it

02:06:26.220 is for

02:06:26.440 my daughter

02:06:26.980 who was

02:06:28.100 murdered

02:06:28.400 by you

02:06:29.000 today I

02:06:32.140 stand before

02:06:32.700 you the

02:06:34.440 man who

02:06:34.840 was

02:06:34.960 responsible

02:06:35.440 for

02:06:35.780 murdering

02:06:36.360 my

02:06:36.820 beautiful

02:06:37.320 daughter

02:06:37.980 Zanna

02:06:38.440 Kurnodal

02:06:39.000 my daughter

02:06:43.520 was beautiful

02:06:44.160 both inside

02:06:45.000 and out

02:06:45.600 she possessed

02:06:46.640 love for

02:06:47.560 those around

02:06:48.300 her and

02:06:49.560 had a

02:06:49.880 light so

02:06:50.380 bright it

02:06:51.480 will live

02:06:51.800 on forever

02:06:52.300 in our

02:06:53.020 hearts

02:06:53.440 she brought

02:06:56.440 joy and

02:06:56.880 laughter to

02:06:57.420 her friends

02:06:58.060 her family

02:06:58.920 and anyone

02:06:59.840 in her

02:07:00.200 presence

02:07:00.700 our

02:07:03.340 Lord and

02:07:03.780 Savior

02:07:04.080 Jesus

02:07:04.520 Christ

02:07:05.060 now has

02:07:08.020 her in

02:07:08.440 his loving

02:07:08.880 arms in

02:07:09.460 heaven

02:07:09.800 where she

02:07:11.940 can never

02:07:12.420 be harmed

02:07:13.020 ever again

02:07:13.740 for eternity

02:07:15.360 because of

02:07:17.420 her I came

02:07:18.300 to know my

02:07:18.760 Lord and

02:07:19.160 Savior Jesus

02:07:19.720 Christ

02:07:20.280 because of

02:07:21.580 her many

02:07:22.200 will come

02:07:22.620 to Christ

02:07:23.200 it is

02:07:25.900 Christ who

02:07:26.460 lives in

02:07:26.900 me that

02:07:27.840 has given

02:07:28.240 me the

02:07:28.760 strength to

02:07:29.220 forgive you

02:07:29.860 it was of

02:07:33.200 no power

02:07:33.680 of my

02:07:34.060 own

02:07:34.320 in return

02:07:36.380 the Lord

02:07:37.240 has filled

02:07:37.760 me with

02:07:38.320 joy hope

02:07:39.680 and peace

02:07:41.000 that surpasses

02:07:42.040 all understanding

02:07:42.940 Jesus has

02:07:45.260 allowed me

02:07:45.920 to forgive

02:07:46.580 you for

02:07:48.020 murdering my

02:07:48.660 daughter without

02:07:49.880 you even being

02:07:50.700 sorry or

02:07:53.380 asking for

02:07:54.080 this this

02:07:55.980 is only

02:07:56.540 possible because

02:07:57.700 he who lives

02:07:58.500 in me is

02:07:59.740 greater than

02:08:00.240 any evil in

02:08:00.980 this world

02:08:01.540 for God

02:08:04.160 hath not

02:08:04.580 given us the

02:08:05.160 spirit of

02:08:05.580 fear but

02:08:06.340 of power and

02:08:07.060 of love and

02:08:07.620 of a sound

02:08:08.060 mind I do

02:08:11.120 not fear you

02:08:11.980 or even

02:08:13.200 let you rent

02:08:14.760 space in my

02:08:15.360 head anymore

02:08:15.920 this forgiveness

02:08:18.740 has released me

02:08:20.100 from any and

02:08:20.940 all evil you

02:08:21.780 have inflicted

02:08:22.940 on me and

02:08:23.440 my family

02:08:23.960 it has

02:08:26.740 allowed me

02:08:27.260 to let

02:08:27.800 our Lord

02:08:29.820 deal with

02:08:30.280 you

02:08:30.500 you have

02:08:33.800 accepted a

02:08:34.440 deal that

02:08:35.140 will prevent

02:08:35.540 you from

02:08:36.120 receiving the

02:08:36.840 death penalty

02:08:37.400 nothing man

02:08:41.600 can do to

02:08:42.080 you can

02:08:42.980 ever compare

02:08:43.820 to the

02:08:44.380 wrath of

02:08:44.780 God

02:08:45.120 inevitably

02:08:48.420 you will

02:08:49.540 stand before

02:08:50.080 our Lord

02:08:50.580 and we'll

02:08:51.720 have to

02:08:52.060 answer to

02:08:52.480 him over

02:08:53.560 the sins

02:08:54.000 you have

02:08:54.260 committed

02:08:54.640 in murdering

02:08:56.320 our children

02:08:56.840 I pray you

02:09:00.540 come to the

02:09:00.980 end of

02:09:01.240 yourself before

02:09:02.320 that day

02:09:02.860 whether you

02:09:05.420 like it or

02:09:05.860 not heaven

02:09:06.920 is for real

02:09:07.880 and so is

02:09:08.600 hell

02:09:08.820 the innocent

02:09:11.880 life of

02:09:12.380 Zanna

02:09:12.660 that you

02:09:13.560 stole from

02:09:14.020 myself and

02:09:14.540 my family

02:09:15.080 and the

02:09:16.280 destruction

02:09:16.800 of this

02:09:18.220 and the

02:09:21.160 destruction

02:09:21.660 it has

02:09:22.200 caused

02:09:22.720 I am

02:09:27.980 washing my

02:09:28.660 hands of

02:09:29.140 you and

02:09:30.560 turning you

02:09:31.060 over to my

02:09:31.620 Lord and

02:09:32.080 Savior Jesus

02:09:32.640 Christ whom

02:09:33.880 vengeance

02:09:34.300 belongs to

02:09:35.160 in closing

02:09:36.560 I want to

02:09:37.400 read a

02:09:37.840 passage from

02:09:38.560 the Bible

02:09:39.040 Ephesians 6

02:09:40.340 King James

02:09:40.940 version

02:09:41.420 finally my

02:09:43.780 brethren be

02:09:44.580 strong in

02:09:44.980 the Lord

02:09:45.360 and then in

02:09:46.280 the power

02:09:46.660 of his

02:09:47.080 might

02:09:47.420 put on the

02:09:50.840 whole armor

02:09:51.320 of God

02:09:51.760 that you may

02:09:52.320 be able to

02:09:52.820 withstand the

02:09:53.900 wiles of the

02:09:54.520 devil for we

02:09:56.100 wrestle not

02:09:56.760 against flesh

02:09:57.460 and blood

02:09:57.940 for we wrestle

02:10:05.960 not against

02:10:06.520 flesh and

02:10:06.920 blood but

02:10:07.280 against

02:10:07.560 principalities

02:10:08.340 against

02:10:08.760 powers

02:10:09.220 against

02:10:09.860 the

02:10:10.180 rulers of

02:10:11.220 the darkness

02:10:11.660 of this

02:10:12.180 world

02:10:12.560 against

02:10:13.720 spiritual

02:10:14.160 wickedness

02:10:14.640 and high

02:10:14.980 places

02:10:15.480 wherefore

02:10:16.840 take unto

02:10:17.400 you the

02:10:17.820 whole armor

02:10:18.280 of God

02:10:18.760 that ye

02:10:19.380 may be

02:10:19.720 able to

02:10:20.640 withstand

02:10:21.120 in the

02:10:21.640 evil day

02:10:22.180 that ye

02:10:22.840 may be

02:10:23.160 able to

02:10:23.680 stand in

02:10:24.180 the evil

02:10:24.480 day

02:10:24.780 I'm not

02:10:45.300 I'm not going

02:10:47.600 to share

02:10:47.920 memories of

02:10:48.740 Zanna or

02:10:49.760 any more

02:10:50.340 honor of

02:10:52.180 the goodness

02:10:52.720 of her

02:10:53.120 with you

02:10:53.640 because I

02:10:54.280 do not

02:10:54.640 want that

02:10:55.660 to be in

02:10:56.080 your head

02:10:56.480 I don't

02:10:57.940 want it to

02:10:58.380 be in your

02:10:58.740 head you

02:10:59.040 don't deserve

02:10:59.500 that you

02:11:00.140 don't deserve

02:11:00.620 our good

02:11:01.180 memories that

02:11:01.760 we have

02:11:02.240 I do pray

02:11:04.560 for you I

02:11:05.020 pray that you

02:11:05.440 come to the

02:11:05.880 end of

02:11:06.120 yourself I

02:11:06.700 pray that

02:11:07.920 before this

02:11:08.440 life is

02:11:08.860 over that

02:11:10.340 you ask our

02:11:10.920 Lord and

02:11:11.280 Savior in

02:11:11.740 your heart

02:11:12.100 and to

02:11:12.720 forgive you

02:11:13.280 I do pray

02:11:14.800 for that

02:11:15.260 but after

02:11:16.060 today I

02:11:16.500 wash my

02:11:16.900 hands of

02:11:17.300 you and

02:11:17.540 you are

02:11:17.760 no longer

02:11:18.240 a thing

02:11:18.640 thank you

02:11:23.220 thank you

02:11:24.860 I don't

02:11:36.980 believe the

02:11:37.280 state has

02:11:37.620 any other

02:11:37.960 victim impact

02:11:38.540 statement

02:11:38.860 okay

02:11:39.860 right

02:11:52.700 let's take

02:11:53.380 and argue

02:11:53.740 thank you

02:12:06.180 your

02:12:06.220 just as a

02:12:13.840 housekeeping

02:12:14.240 matter

02:12:14.700 start

02:12:15.180 there will

02:12:16.560 be the

02:12:16.840 issue of

02:12:17.180 restitution

02:12:17.760 that is

02:12:19.300 the

02:12:19.740 documentation

02:12:20.180 is being

02:12:20.700 gathered

02:12:21.060 and we

02:12:21.380 ask

02:12:21.660 if the

02:12:22.040 court

02:12:22.200 would

02:12:22.420 defer

02:12:22.780 that

02:12:23.500 for

02:12:23.760 30

02:12:24.180 days

02:12:24.620 so we

02:12:25.040 can

02:12:25.240 present

02:12:25.640 it

02:12:25.860 in an

02:12:26.180 orderly

02:12:26.600 fashion

02:12:26.960 and make

02:12:27.380 sure

02:12:27.560 it's

02:12:27.840 comprehensive

02:12:28.440 for

02:12:29.180 everyone

02:12:29.600 any

02:12:30.280 objection

02:12:30.620 to

02:12:30.820 leaving

02:12:31.060 restitution

02:12:31.680 open

02:12:31.980 in 60

02:12:32.400 days

02:12:32.820 all

02:12:34.060 right

02:12:34.220 thank you

02:12:37.300 your

02:12:37.400 honor

02:12:37.560 I think

02:12:47.200 it's

02:12:47.560 necessary

02:12:48.240 and

02:12:48.440 appropriate

02:12:48.840 to share

02:12:50.300 for everyone

02:12:51.760 here

02:12:52.200 including

02:12:52.860 the

02:12:53.120 court

02:12:53.440 the

02:12:55.280 background

02:12:55.680 that brings

02:12:56.360 us

02:12:56.780 in front

02:12:57.780 of your

02:12:58.060 honor

02:12:58.260 today

02:12:58.680 for these

02:12:59.720 proceedings

02:13:00.220 as

02:13:03.000 the

02:13:03.580 record

02:13:03.840 reflects

02:13:04.440 and as

02:13:05.300 everybody

02:13:05.660 in this

02:13:06.160 courtroom

02:13:06.480 knows

02:13:07.020 the

02:13:08.000 defendant

02:13:08.340 has

02:13:08.620 pleaded

02:13:08.920 guilty

02:13:09.320 to

02:13:09.800 all

02:13:10.200 five

02:13:10.600 counts

02:13:11.140 charged

02:13:11.900 in

02:13:12.360 the

02:13:12.720 indictment

02:13:13.340 under

02:13:14.940 oath

02:13:15.260 before

02:13:15.640 your

02:13:15.920 honor

02:13:16.160 he

02:13:16.440 has

02:13:16.660 admitted

02:13:17.100 that

02:13:18.220 the

02:13:18.420 charges

02:13:18.760 against

02:13:19.300 him

02:13:19.600 are

02:13:19.880 true

02:13:20.300 he

02:13:23.060 has

02:13:23.260 reassured

02:13:23.840 the

02:13:24.060 court

02:13:24.420 that

02:13:25.620 he

02:13:26.620 has

02:13:26.760 not

02:13:26.940 been

02:13:27.140 coerced

02:13:27.720 or

02:13:27.960 threatened

02:13:28.320 to make

02:13:28.920 those

02:13:29.180 admissions

02:13:29.620 and

02:13:31.200 your

02:13:31.380 honor

02:13:31.640 did

02:13:31.920 an

02:13:32.100 extraordinary

02:13:32.500 job

02:13:33.180 in

02:13:33.480 taking

02:13:33.780 the

02:13:34.020 pleas

02:13:34.460 back

02:13:34.820 on

02:13:35.020 July

02:13:35.280 2nd

02:13:35.800 we

02:13:35.980 appreciate

02:13:36.580 the

02:13:37.140 court's

02:13:37.460 discipline

02:13:37.900 and

02:13:38.540 insight

02:13:38.960 the

02:13:41.460 defendant

02:13:41.740 has

02:13:42.000 also

02:13:42.360 waived

02:13:42.720 appeal

02:13:43.300 on

02:13:44.300 the

02:13:44.600 multitude

02:13:45.240 of

02:13:46.280 rulings

02:13:46.880 from

02:13:47.140 this

02:13:47.400 court

02:13:47.740 and

02:13:48.280 your

02:13:48.420 honor's

02:13:48.760 predecessor

02:13:49.340 in

02:13:49.920 Lataw

02:13:50.280 County

02:13:50.760 on

02:13:52.120 dozens

02:13:52.540 of

02:13:52.860 literally

02:13:53.280 dozens

02:13:53.840 of

02:13:54.360 motions

02:13:54.840 seeking

02:13:55.380 to

02:13:56.180 dismiss

02:13:56.580 the

02:13:56.820 case

02:13:57.180 seeking

02:13:58.240 to

02:13:59.320 control

02:14:01.260 or

02:14:01.500 limit

02:14:01.840 evidence

02:14:02.460 seeking

02:14:03.720 to

02:14:04.020 offer

02:14:04.400 evidence

02:14:05.080 that

02:14:05.620 would

02:14:05.760 not

02:14:05.960 be

02:14:06.120 appropriate

02:14:06.660 and

02:14:07.540 we

02:14:07.660 appreciate

02:14:08.080 the

02:14:08.400 court's

02:14:08.740 consistent

02:14:09.320 rulings

02:14:10.120 based

02:14:11.000 on the

02:14:11.280 law

02:14:11.580 based

02:14:12.720 on the

02:14:13.000 facts

02:14:13.420 as

02:14:17.500 your

02:14:17.620 honor

02:14:17.760 will

02:14:17.940 recall

02:14:18.440 on

02:14:18.940 june

02:14:19.560 18th

02:14:20.540 it's

02:14:20.980 just

02:14:21.160 really

02:14:21.420 not

02:14:21.600 that

02:14:21.800 long

02:14:22.060 ago

02:14:22.380 we

02:14:23.460 appeared

02:14:23.840 before

02:14:24.180 this

02:14:24.500 court

02:14:24.880 for

02:14:25.280 arguments

02:14:25.760 on

02:14:26.300 what

02:14:26.680 became

02:14:27.640 the

02:14:28.500 defendant's

02:14:29.200 final

02:14:29.880 motions

02:14:30.620 to

02:14:30.860 this

02:14:31.120 court

02:14:31.480 motion

02:14:33.080 where they

02:14:33.900 wanted

02:14:34.220 to offer

02:14:34.860 evidence

02:14:35.440 suggesting

02:14:36.000 that other

02:14:37.000 people

02:14:37.360 were

02:14:38.360 responsible

02:14:38.900 for the

02:14:39.360 defendant's

02:14:39.880 actions

02:14:40.360 and

02:14:42.140 the

02:14:42.320 motion

02:14:42.640 seeking

02:14:43.180 essentially

02:14:43.900 an

02:14:44.160 indefinite

02:14:44.740 continuance

02:14:45.420 of the

02:14:45.700 trial

02:14:46.020 it was

02:14:47.780 readily

02:14:48.060 apparent

02:14:48.760 to all

02:14:49.860 of us

02:14:50.140 in the

02:14:50.400 courtroom

02:14:50.800 from your

02:14:51.400 honor's

02:14:51.720 comments

02:14:52.240 that those

02:14:53.360 motions

02:14:53.740 were not

02:14:54.140 going to

02:14:54.460 be

02:14:54.600 granted

02:14:54.940 so we

02:14:57.080 returned

02:14:57.520 to

02:14:57.740 Moscow

02:14:58.040 and

02:15:00.460 continued

02:15:00.980 with what

02:15:01.420 we've been

02:15:01.760 working on

02:15:02.280 for months

02:15:02.720 in preparation

02:15:03.260 for trial

02:15:04.100 we have

02:15:05.740 no qualms

02:15:06.460 about

02:15:07.100 going to

02:15:07.640 trial

02:15:07.980 if trial

02:15:08.660 was what

02:15:09.400 was necessary

02:15:10.060 and appropriate

02:15:10.820 the following

02:15:13.760 week after

02:15:14.460 we were

02:15:14.820 in court

02:15:15.300 we were

02:15:17.460 approached

02:15:17.900 by the

02:15:18.380 defense

02:15:18.900 with an

02:15:19.740 inquiry

02:15:20.200 about a

02:15:20.840 possible

02:15:21.260 plea

02:15:21.640 and I

02:15:21.980 can tell

02:15:22.340 the court

02:15:22.720 this is the

02:15:23.240 first

02:15:23.580 suggestion

02:15:24.260 ever

02:15:24.740 that there

02:15:25.300 was any

02:15:26.220 consideration

02:15:26.900 because

02:15:27.600 indeed

02:15:28.040 the defense

02:15:29.260 had maintained

02:15:30.040 from the

02:15:31.820 beginning

02:15:32.120 that Mr.

02:15:34.320 Koberger

02:15:34.940 the defendant

02:15:35.720 was factually

02:15:36.900 innocent

02:15:37.500 it's clear

02:15:42.620 that the

02:15:43.140 reality

02:15:43.660 of the

02:15:45.000 evidence

02:15:45.520 and the

02:15:46.140 case

02:15:46.600 that had

02:15:47.280 been

02:15:47.580 investigated

02:15:48.720 and prepared

02:15:50.160 and that we

02:15:50.960 were ready

02:15:51.460 to present

02:15:52.120 in court

02:15:52.820 became a

02:15:53.900 reality

02:15:54.400 our

02:15:58.880 reaction

02:15:59.460 among other

02:16:01.960 things

02:16:02.340 was to

02:16:02.720 reach out

02:16:03.340 to all

02:16:04.480 the families

02:16:05.140 and in fact

02:16:07.320 later that

02:16:07.900 week on

02:16:08.400 Thursday and

02:16:08.980 Friday of

02:16:09.420 that last

02:16:09.920 week of

02:16:10.360 June

02:16:10.660 we met

02:16:12.260 with

02:16:12.460 representatives

02:16:13.040 by teams

02:16:14.060 virtual

02:16:14.500 meetings

02:16:14.980 with

02:16:15.700 representatives

02:16:16.220 of all

02:16:16.740 the families

02:16:17.400 and we

02:16:18.520 talked about

02:16:19.020 the status

02:16:19.600 of the

02:16:19.940 case

02:16:20.360 and the

02:16:22.120 upcoming

02:16:22.520 trial

02:16:23.140 and things

02:16:23.880 related to

02:16:24.580 the trial

02:16:25.080 and we

02:16:26.440 also

02:16:26.980 let them

02:16:29.380 know that

02:16:29.900 there had

02:16:30.220 been an

02:16:30.540 inquiry

02:16:30.980 about whether

02:16:31.780 there might

02:16:32.380 be an

02:16:32.740 offer for

02:16:33.400 a plea

02:16:33.840 and we

02:16:34.960 asked the

02:16:35.500 family members

02:16:36.160 for their

02:16:36.660 thoughts and

02:16:37.220 feelings

02:16:37.580 and they

02:16:39.040 were candid

02:16:39.560 and they

02:16:40.940 have been

02:16:41.240 candid since

02:16:42.020 and we

02:16:42.340 respect that

02:16:43.120 and we

02:16:44.540 understand

02:16:45.260 recognize

02:16:46.720 and acknowledge

02:16:47.880 that there

02:16:50.440 was a

02:16:51.240 difference of

02:16:52.060 opinion

02:16:52.600 among

02:16:54.280 representatives

02:16:55.260 of the

02:16:55.760 different

02:16:56.040 families

02:16:56.520 we understand

02:16:57.140 that

02:16:57.700 one of the

02:16:59.460 challenges of

02:17:00.140 this case

02:17:00.640 one of the

02:17:01.000 unique things

02:17:01.940 about this

02:17:02.460 case is

02:17:03.020 we have

02:17:04.220 multiple

02:17:05.560 victims

02:17:06.220 each unique

02:17:07.940 unto

02:17:08.280 themselves

02:17:09.080 their families

02:17:10.860 and friends

02:17:11.480 unique unto

02:17:12.240 themselves

02:17:12.760 and all of

02:17:13.540 them entitled

02:17:14.260 to their

02:17:14.740 opinions

02:17:15.280 all of them

02:17:16.800 entitled to

02:17:17.400 their thoughts

02:17:18.020 over the

02:17:20.340 following

02:17:20.660 weekend

02:17:21.260 our

02:17:21.900 prosecution

02:17:22.740 team

02:17:23.180 very

02:17:26.240 skilled

02:17:27.660 attorneys

02:17:28.220 who were

02:17:29.420 personally

02:17:29.960 as well as

02:17:31.080 professionally

02:17:31.660 deeply invested

02:17:32.660 in this case

02:17:33.200 met

02:17:33.520 and we

02:17:34.940 talked

02:17:35.300 and

02:17:36.060 the decision

02:17:37.640 was reached

02:17:38.320 to start

02:17:40.260 with

02:17:40.580 were there

02:17:41.300 to be

02:17:41.740 any sort

02:17:42.360 of plea

02:17:42.860 offer

02:17:43.380 or discussion

02:17:44.220 there's only

02:17:44.800 one possibility

02:17:45.720 and that

02:17:47.800 would be

02:17:48.120 for the

02:17:48.440 defendant

02:17:48.780 to plead

02:17:49.580 guilty

02:17:50.000 straight up

02:17:50.620 to all

02:17:51.040 charges

02:17:51.560 there would

02:17:53.120 need be no

02:17:53.760 bargaining

02:17:54.200 about counts

02:17:55.220 there would

02:17:56.460 be no

02:17:56.780 bargaining

02:17:57.320 about reduced

02:17:58.420 sentences

02:17:59.060 and so we

02:18:01.120 made

02:18:01.620 the proposal

02:18:03.600 to the

02:18:04.000 defense

02:18:04.520 that if the

02:18:06.140 defendant was

02:18:06.700 willing to

02:18:07.120 plead guilty

02:18:07.880 up front

02:18:09.620 to all five

02:18:10.720 counts as

02:18:11.260 charged

02:18:11.740 and waive

02:18:12.400 appeal

02:18:12.920 of the

02:18:15.160 court's

02:18:15.640 myriad

02:18:16.240 decisions

02:18:16.960 during the

02:18:17.740 past two

02:18:18.540 and a half

02:18:18.920 plus years

02:18:19.680 on all

02:18:20.860 these motions

02:18:21.560 that would

02:18:22.660 have consumed

02:18:23.640 years if not

02:18:24.820 decades

02:18:25.480 of time

02:18:27.200 in the

02:18:27.540 future

02:18:27.940 by the

02:18:32.760 end of the

02:18:33.060 weekend we

02:18:33.640 were notified

02:18:34.100 the defense

02:18:34.780 defendant was

02:18:35.580 prepared to

02:18:36.380 plead guilty

02:18:37.080 as charged

02:18:38.540 and factually

02:18:41.240 acknowledged his

02:18:42.040 responsibility in

02:18:43.140 court for

02:18:44.260 these horrible

02:18:45.200 crimes

02:18:46.100 obviously those

02:18:50.640 discussions and

02:18:51.440 negotiations

02:18:52.080 were confidential

02:18:53.760 and as your

02:18:55.780 honor noted

02:18:56.360 I believe

02:18:57.660 that was

02:18:58.660 necessarily so

02:18:59.600 because if

02:19:00.600 the defendant

02:19:03.320 had decided

02:19:04.020 not to plead

02:19:04.760 guilty

02:19:05.120 it would have

02:19:06.480 been devastating

02:19:07.300 to our jury

02:19:08.040 pool

02:19:08.520 for there to

02:19:09.740 be public

02:19:10.460 information

02:19:11.260 that there

02:19:12.040 had been

02:19:12.360 consideration

02:19:13.060 by either

02:19:14.400 party

02:19:14.980 to a plea

02:19:16.840 resolution

02:19:17.420 and protecting

02:19:19.160 the perspective

02:19:19.820 integrity of

02:19:20.720 trial after so

02:19:21.820 many years

02:19:22.540 was paramount

02:19:24.100 so the end

02:19:28.500 of the weekend

02:19:28.940 came

02:19:29.340 we notified

02:19:32.040 the victims

02:19:32.800 families

02:19:33.240 of what had

02:19:34.320 occurred

02:19:34.660 we recognize

02:19:36.460 I recognize

02:19:38.620 and acknowledge

02:19:39.580 personally

02:19:40.300 and I respect

02:19:40.960 the fact

02:19:41.640 that of these

02:19:44.120 fine

02:19:44.640 suffering people

02:19:45.900 here not

02:19:46.320 everybody agreed

02:19:47.200 with the decision

02:19:47.840 we make

02:19:48.300 I accept that

02:19:49.340 it's my

02:19:50.580 responsibility

02:19:51.240 in the end

02:19:52.080 I recognize

02:19:53.660 that that's

02:19:54.680 the duty

02:19:55.240 of the office

02:19:55.960 that I hold

02:19:56.820 so now

02:20:03.400 it is time

02:20:06.720 for the

02:20:08.000 judicial system

02:20:08.960 to impose

02:20:11.400 final judgment

02:20:12.160 and close

02:20:14.420 the door

02:20:15.000 on this chapter

02:20:16.140 of these tragedies

02:20:17.820 as the court

02:20:21.660 is aware

02:20:22.220 by the agreement

02:20:23.640 of the parties

02:20:24.260 it is the

02:20:25.000 state's

02:20:25.880 prayer

02:20:26.300 perhaps

02:20:30.860 have the

02:20:31.460 elbow

02:20:31.920 please

02:20:32.200 turn on

02:20:32.600 thank you

02:20:42.000 that on

02:20:45.720 count one

02:20:46.420 the felony

02:20:47.480 burglary

02:20:47.960 the court

02:20:48.660 sentenced

02:20:48.980 the defendant

02:20:49.600 to the

02:20:50.460 maximum period

02:20:51.140 of 10 years

02:20:52.020 fixed

02:20:52.580 in the custody

02:20:53.480 of the

02:20:54.620 Idaho

02:20:54.900 excuse me

02:20:55.660 Idaho

02:20:56.060 Department of

02:20:56.720 Correction

02:20:57.040 and on

02:20:59.300 count two

02:20:59.840 that the court

02:21:06.020 sentenced

02:21:06.340 the defendant

02:21:06.900 to fixed

02:21:07.500 life

02:21:08.020 for the

02:21:08.540 murder

02:21:08.840 Maddie Mogan

02:21:11.260 on count

02:21:15.460 three

02:21:15.860 that the

02:21:20.080 court

02:21:20.340 sentenced

02:21:21.580 the defendant

02:21:22.160 to fixed

02:21:25.240 life

02:21:25.760 for the

02:21:27.080 murder

02:21:27.360 of

02:21:28.440 Kaylee

02:21:28.720 Gonzalez

02:21:29.180 on count

02:21:33.100 four

02:21:33.540 that the

02:21:37.640 court

02:21:37.880 sentenced

02:21:38.300 the defendant

02:21:38.880 to fixed

02:21:41.200 life

02:21:41.700 for the

02:21:44.500 murder

02:21:44.780 of

02:21:46.860 Zanac

02:21:47.160 Kern

02:21:47.360 Hotel

02:21:47.600 on count

02:21:52.680 five

02:21:53.200 that the

02:21:55.740 court

02:21:55.940 sentenced

02:21:56.280 the defendant

02:21:56.860 to fixed

02:21:58.680 life

02:21:59.120 for the

02:22:01.520 murder

02:22:01.860 of Ethan

02:22:04.060 Chapin

02:22:04.460 and the

02:22:07.300 state

02:22:07.480 further

02:22:07.760 prays

02:22:08.200 that these

02:22:08.520 sentences

02:22:09.020 be ordered

02:22:11.440 to run

02:22:12.320 consecutively

02:22:13.580 back to

02:22:14.520 back

02:22:14.840 not at

02:22:15.340 the same

02:22:15.760 time

02:22:16.240 to recognize

02:22:18.940 and respect

02:22:20.340 the unique

02:22:22.120 individuality

02:22:23.220 of each

02:22:23.920 of these

02:22:24.340 beautiful

02:22:24.740 young people

02:22:25.460 whose lives

02:22:27.180 were taken

02:22:27.880 brutally

02:22:29.300 and for

02:22:30.300 no reason

02:22:30.860 and hopefully

02:22:41.680 now

02:22:42.120 as we

02:22:43.720 have heard

02:22:44.280 earlier this

02:22:46.820 morning

02:22:47.220 it is time

02:22:49.120 to afford

02:22:50.520 the families

02:22:51.400 and the

02:22:52.300 friends

02:22:52.680 and the

02:22:53.120 community

02:22:53.620 and the

02:22:54.740 state of

02:22:55.060 Idaho

02:22:55.340 and the

02:22:58.380 nation

02:22:58.660 and the

02:22:59.020 world

02:22:59.380 to move

02:23:00.520 forward

02:23:00.840 we can't

02:23:02.920 undo

02:23:03.420 and we can

02:23:04.160 never undo

02:23:04.820 the horror

02:23:05.540 of what

02:23:06.200 occurred

02:23:06.620 on the

02:23:07.140 early

02:23:07.320 morning

02:23:07.620 hours

02:23:08.120 of November

02:23:09.300 13th

02:23:10.840 2022

02:23:11.860 at 1122

02:23:13.660 King Street

02:23:14.460 in Moscow

02:23:15.680 Idaho

02:23:16.060 for a long

02:23:20.860 time

02:23:21.300 the presiding

02:23:22.340 district judge

02:23:23.080 in Latow

02:23:23.520 County

02:23:23.880 was John

02:23:24.400 Stegner

02:23:24.860 who eventually

02:23:26.160 became a member

02:23:27.620 and justice

02:23:28.440 of the Idaho

02:23:29.040 Supreme Court

02:23:29.880 and judge

02:23:31.180 justice

02:23:32.440 Stegner

02:23:33.040 often observed

02:23:36.960 that even

02:23:40.020 God

02:23:40.500 cannot change

02:23:41.520 the past

02:23:42.140 but everyone

02:23:46.120 in this room

02:23:46.860 has the ability

02:23:49.180 to take

02:23:50.120 themselves

02:23:50.640 forward

02:23:51.180 and we

02:23:52.900 want

02:23:53.340 the judicial

02:23:54.320 system

02:23:54.840 to afford

02:23:55.980 them

02:23:56.640 the opportunity

02:23:58.080 today

02:23:59.340 to do

02:24:00.040 that

02:24:00.340 from today

02:24:05.100 forward

02:24:05.540 our memories

02:24:06.280 should be

02:24:07.240 focused

02:24:07.700 on these

02:24:10.080 innocent

02:24:10.600 victims

02:24:11.260 whose lives

02:24:12.080 were taken

02:24:12.820 on their

02:24:13.500 families

02:24:13.900 on their

02:24:14.260 friends

02:24:14.700 on the

02:24:15.180 community

02:24:15.660 the court

02:24:20.560 has heard

02:24:21.220 discussion

02:24:21.900 talk

02:24:22.600 today

02:24:23.000 reminisces

02:24:23.980 today

02:24:24.440 about

02:24:26.100 a special

02:24:27.340 family

02:24:27.980 that our

02:24:29.460 victims

02:24:29.760 shared

02:24:30.400 not just

02:24:31.820 their natural

02:24:32.540 legal and

02:24:33.580 biological

02:24:34.120 families

02:24:34.880 not just

02:24:36.140 their university

02:24:36.920 family within

02:24:37.860 their sororities

02:24:39.360 for example

02:24:40.120 but this

02:24:53.760 family

02:24:54.080 this is the

02:24:59.680 picture

02:25:00.100 taken

02:25:02.000 on November

02:25:03.000 12th

02:25:05.160 2022

02:25:06.080 of the

02:25:09.500 special

02:25:09.980 family

02:25:10.600 of

02:25:11.780 1122

02:25:12.820 King Road

02:25:15.080 and you

02:25:17.220 can see

02:25:17.640 all six

02:25:18.720 of these

02:25:19.800 dynamic

02:25:20.660 vibrant

02:25:21.860 loving

02:25:23.460 special

02:25:25.440 innocent

02:25:26.140 faces

02:25:26.740 taken

02:25:28.220 together

02:25:28.700 just across

02:25:29.420 the street

02:25:29.860 from their

02:25:30.240 residence

02:25:30.800 and barely

02:25:32.720 12 hours

02:25:33.860 before

02:25:35.220 four of

02:25:36.040 them

02:25:36.340 would be

02:25:37.500 brutally

02:25:38.080 murdered

02:25:38.640 in their

02:25:39.160 sleep

02:25:39.540 they've been

02:25:43.880 described

02:25:44.600 consistently

02:25:45.560 as being

02:25:46.120 bright

02:25:46.620 caring

02:25:48.040 vivacious

02:25:49.500 with

02:25:52.540 futures

02:25:53.100 we can

02:25:53.800 only imagine

02:25:54.700 now

02:25:55.160 but they

02:26:00.320 were

02:26:00.680 and they

02:26:02.100 remained

02:26:02.560 a special

02:26:03.420 family

02:26:03.840 that I

02:26:05.520 think

02:26:05.780 we should

02:26:06.280 all

02:26:06.460 recognize

02:26:07.140 and

02:26:08.500 appreciate

02:26:09.100 so it's

02:26:11.380 time to

02:26:11.700 move

02:26:11.860 forward

02:26:12.220 there have

02:26:16.460 been a

02:26:16.740 number of

02:26:17.220 statements

02:26:18.400 directed

02:26:18.860 specifically

02:26:19.660 at the

02:26:20.160 defendant

02:26:20.500 today

02:26:20.940 I have

02:26:23.600 one last

02:26:24.480 thought

02:26:24.940 after

02:26:27.780 your

02:26:28.000 honor

02:26:28.200 imposes

02:26:28.720 judgment

02:26:29.260 and

02:26:30.840 sentences

02:26:31.200 the

02:26:31.460 defendant

02:26:31.780 to

02:26:32.140 spend

02:26:32.720 the

02:26:33.460 rest

02:26:33.700 of

02:26:33.860 his

02:26:34.000 life

02:26:34.360 in

02:26:34.660 prison

02:26:35.000 in

02:26:35.960 other

02:26:36.200 words

02:26:36.560 sentence

02:26:37.460 the

02:26:37.820 defendant

02:26:38.240 to

02:26:38.860 die

02:26:39.440 in

02:26:40.480 prison

02:26:40.820 he's

02:26:43.900 going to

02:26:44.060 stand up

02:26:44.680 in the

02:26:46.700 belly

02:26:46.880 chains

02:26:47.460 and leg

02:26:48.380 irons

02:26:48.860 that he's

02:26:49.260 wearing

02:26:49.540 today

02:26:49.960 and he's

02:26:51.620 going to

02:26:51.820 be escorted

02:26:52.640 into the

02:26:54.360 custody of

02:26:54.940 the Idaho

02:26:55.300 Department

02:26:55.740 of

02:26:55.900 Correction

02:26:56.200 and the

02:26:59.500 door will

02:27:00.420 close behind

02:27:01.400 him

02:27:01.860 forever

02:27:03.540 that is the

02:27:06.320 closure

02:27:06.780 that we

02:27:08.600 seek

02:27:09.080 that all

02:27:11.980 of these

02:27:12.540 people

02:27:13.900 these loving

02:27:14.740 friends and

02:27:15.380 family

02:27:15.780 deserve

02:27:16.460 so we

02:27:19.240 can move

02:27:19.620 forward

02:27:20.020 thank you

02:27:22.980 thank you

02:27:26.040 all right does

02:27:40.420 defense have

02:27:41.120 evidence to

02:27:41.720 present today

02:27:42.260 all right

02:27:45.140 it's

02:27:46.600 fence

02:27:46.940 wish to

02:27:48.320 make

02:27:48.460 argument

02:27:48.780 today

02:27:49.140 Mr.

02:27:58.860 Kohlberger

02:27:59.160 you have an

02:28:00.080 opportunity to

02:28:00.580 make a

02:28:00.860 statement if

02:28:01.240 you wish to

02:28:01.680 I take it

02:28:02.080 you're

02:28:02.300 declining

02:28:02.740 I respectfully

02:28:05.040 decline

02:28:05.700 please

02:28:18.760 all right let

02:28:23.440 me start

02:28:25.440 this morning

02:28:27.240 by acknowledging

02:28:33.200 and thanking

02:28:34.140 those that have

02:28:36.640 come here today

02:28:37.400 in support of

02:28:38.180 their loved

02:28:38.580 ones and I

02:28:39.340 appreciate your

02:28:40.280 courage and

02:28:42.040 your strength

02:28:42.660 and I hope

02:28:45.700 that you are

02:28:46.500 able to move

02:28:47.200 on as best as

02:28:48.160 possible

02:28:48.640 thank council

02:28:51.300 for the

02:28:52.300 professionalism

02:28:53.060 that they've

02:28:53.460 exhibited

02:28:53.820 throughout this

02:28:54.440 case

02:28:54.780 it's been my

02:28:56.040 great honor

02:28:56.700 to preside

02:28:58.580 in this

02:29:00.000 case

02:29:00.400 and to

02:29:01.920 help bring

02:29:02.560 to the

02:29:04.120 extent possible

02:29:04.920 some

02:29:05.300 resolution

02:29:07.240 and hopefully

02:29:08.800 justice

02:29:09.360 to this

02:29:10.020 case

02:29:10.360 during the

02:29:16.700 quiet

02:29:17.160 morning hours

02:29:18.080 of November

02:29:18.560 13

02:29:19.220 2022

02:29:20.600 a faceless

02:29:22.200 coward

02:29:22.660 reached the

02:29:23.300 tranquility

02:29:23.940 of six

02:29:24.960 beautiful

02:29:25.360 young

02:29:25.700 people

02:29:26.140 and

02:29:29.780 senselessly

02:29:30.500 slaughtered

02:29:30.960 them

02:29:31.180 four of

02:29:32.600 them

02:29:33.000 who

02:29:35.860 committed

02:29:36.240 this

02:29:36.540 unspeakable

02:29:37.320 evil was

02:29:37.880 unknown for

02:29:38.640 several weeks

02:29:39.300 but due to

02:29:41.380 the killer's

02:29:41.940 incompetence

02:29:42.680 and outstanding

02:29:43.880 police work by

02:29:44.880 numerous local

02:29:46.140 state and

02:29:47.000 federal law

02:29:47.520 enforcement

02:29:47.900 agencies

02:29:48.600 the person

02:29:50.360 that slithered

02:29:51.020 through that

02:29:51.400 sliding glass

02:29:52.060 door at

02:29:52.820 1122 King Road

02:29:54.300 now stands

02:29:55.640 before the world

02:29:56.440 and this court

02:29:57.360 unmasked

02:29:58.580 this unfathomable

02:30:02.040 and senseless

02:30:02.980 act of evil

02:30:03.880 has caused

02:30:04.820 immeasurable pain

02:30:06.340 and loss

02:30:07.360 no parent

02:30:14.040 should ever

02:30:14.760 have to bury

02:30:15.460 their child

02:30:16.240 this is the

02:30:19.940 greatest tragedy

02:30:20.860 that can be

02:30:21.520 inflicted upon

02:30:22.360 a person

02:30:22.980 parents who

02:30:26.520 took their

02:30:26.900 children

02:30:27.260 to college

02:30:28.480 in a truck

02:30:29.520 filled with

02:30:29.980 moving boxes

02:30:30.720 had to bring

02:30:31.760 them home

02:30:32.360 in hearses

02:30:33.380 lined with

02:30:33.900 coffins

02:30:34.360 the loss

02:30:38.200 this killer

02:30:38.660 inflicted

02:30:39.320 was not

02:30:39.920 just the

02:30:40.340 death

02:30:40.680 of these

02:30:41.560 people's

02:30:42.500 children

02:30:42.980 siblings

02:30:43.900 grandchildren

02:30:44.840 as we've

02:30:45.920 heard today

02:30:46.440 it has

02:30:48.700 ripped a

02:30:49.040 hole in

02:30:49.360 their soul

02:30:49.860 destroying

02:30:51.020 a special

02:30:51.840 part of

02:30:52.360 their very

02:30:52.760 essence

02:30:53.200 any person

02:30:58.220 who is a

02:30:58.740 parent

02:30:59.120 defines

02:30:59.960 themselves

02:31:00.640 foremost

02:31:02.060 as such

02:31:03.720 it is

02:31:09.420 their

02:31:09.600 existence

02:31:10.080 and purpose

02:31:10.760 of being

02:31:11.240 and it

02:31:13.580 has been

02:31:13.940 stolen

02:31:14.320 from these

02:31:14.840 parents

02:31:15.260 none of

02:31:24.320 us have

02:31:24.600 experienced

02:31:25.160 the loss

02:31:25.620 these

02:31:25.840 victims

02:31:26.200 have

02:31:26.680 in

02:31:27.280 the

02:31:27.940 unspeakable

02:31:28.580 way

02:31:28.860 that they

02:31:29.220 have

02:31:29.560 and

02:31:30.580 therefore

02:31:30.860 none of

02:31:31.280 us can

02:31:31.740 nor should

02:31:32.480 we

02:31:32.700 question

02:31:33.120 the way

02:31:33.500 in which

02:31:33.780 they have

02:31:34.060 handled

02:31:34.360 their

02:31:34.540 loss

02:31:34.880 whether

02:31:36.000 that be

02:31:36.440 in private

02:31:36.880 mourning

02:31:37.300 removed

02:31:38.000 as far

02:31:38.460 as possible

02:31:39.040 from this

02:31:39.580 media

02:31:39.860 circus

02:31:40.300 or in

02:31:42.080 front of

02:31:42.360 a camera

02:31:42.780 demanding

02:31:43.280 retribution

02:31:43.940 with the

02:31:44.400 loudest

02:31:44.800 megaphone

02:31:45.420 I've

02:31:48.120 listened

02:31:48.460 intently

02:31:48.940 to the

02:31:49.340 stories

02:31:49.860 and pain

02:31:50.580 that have

02:31:51.220 been shared

02:31:51.640 today

02:31:52.060 with great

02:31:53.680 awe at the

02:31:54.320 courage and

02:31:54.920 resilience of

02:31:55.720 the surviving

02:31:56.320 family members

02:31:57.460 of those

02:31:58.200 wonderful

02:31:58.800 children

02:31:59.260 I've

02:32:01.480 listened

02:32:01.720 also to

02:32:02.400 the

02:32:02.640 surviving

02:32:03.060 roommates

02:32:03.620 both in

02:32:05.060 person and

02:32:05.840 through

02:32:06.160 their

02:32:06.760 friends

02:32:07.260 and I

02:32:09.580 can't

02:32:09.840 think of

02:32:10.480 how

02:32:10.920 frankly

02:32:11.840 courageous

02:32:12.340 they have

02:32:12.820 been

02:32:13.140 despite

02:32:13.560 the hell

02:32:14.200 that they

02:32:14.540 have faced

02:32:15.160 by uncaring

02:32:17.200 people

02:32:17.820 who have

02:32:19.980 come up

02:32:20.400 with all

02:32:20.760 kinds of

02:32:21.400 crazy theories

02:32:22.300 about two

02:32:24.740 kids

02:32:25.100 simply being

02:32:26.240 kids

02:32:26.600 the parents

02:32:31.380 siblings

02:32:32.100 and other

02:32:33.200 family members

02:32:33.940 who have

02:32:34.240 spoken today

02:32:35.020 are designated

02:32:36.880 as victims

02:32:38.080 in our legal

02:32:38.800 system

02:32:39.320 but going

02:32:40.220 forward I hope

02:32:40.980 that they can

02:32:41.500 shed that label

02:32:42.340 as it gives

02:32:43.500 too much

02:32:43.900 power to

02:32:44.520 the evil

02:32:44.940 that condemned

02:32:45.540 them to

02:32:46.040 that role

02:32:46.520 they are

02:32:50.420 and should

02:32:51.020 be known

02:32:51.520 as survivors

02:32:52.300 fighters

02:32:53.300 and foremost

02:32:54.180 as witnesses

02:32:54.960 to the

02:32:55.480 tremendous

02:32:55.820 lives of

02:32:56.460 value

02:32:56.860 and unbounded

02:32:58.000 promise

02:32:58.440 of these

02:32:59.240 four young

02:32:59.720 people

02:33:00.100 but those

02:33:03.100 speaking today

02:33:03.840 and those

02:33:04.240 who did not

02:33:04.800 speak but

02:33:05.400 who carry

02:33:05.840 the same

02:33:06.320 burden

02:33:06.680 the same

02:33:07.480 loss

02:33:07.940 now carry

02:33:09.220 forward the

02:33:09.700 memories

02:33:10.140 of these

02:33:11.420 now perpetually

02:33:12.260 young people

02:33:12.980 these forever

02:33:13.900 children

02:33:14.320 these survivors

02:33:17.220 carry the

02:33:17.800 responsibility

02:33:18.520 of ensuring

02:33:19.160 that the

02:33:19.680 voices

02:33:20.020 of these

02:33:22.440 children

02:33:22.920 Maddie

02:33:24.000 Kaylee

02:33:24.680 Zanna

02:33:25.320 and Ethan

02:33:25.920 are never

02:33:27.080 forgotten

02:33:27.520 and the

02:33:28.800 positive impacts

02:33:29.680 that they have

02:33:30.180 had on so

02:33:31.400 many lives

02:33:32.000 are never

02:33:32.460 minimized

02:33:33.140 and that the

02:33:34.060 love they

02:33:34.420 shared

02:33:34.840 the light

02:33:35.580 that they

02:33:35.880 shined

02:33:36.300 onto others

02:33:37.040 is forever

02:33:37.620 celebrated

02:33:38.200 as we sit

02:33:41.340 here today

02:33:41.800 this case

02:33:42.320 is ending

02:33:42.740 and we are

02:33:43.360 now certain

02:33:43.940 who committed

02:33:44.460 these unspeakable

02:33:45.300 acts of evil

02:33:46.000 but we don't

02:33:47.540 know

02:33:47.960 and we

02:33:49.520 what we

02:33:50.200 may never

02:33:51.400 know

02:33:51.780 is why

02:33:52.460 I share

02:33:56.480 the desire

02:33:56.980 expressed by

02:33:57.720 others to

02:33:58.240 understand the

02:33:58.920 why

02:33:59.240 but upon

02:34:00.300 reflection

02:34:00.800 it seems

02:34:01.520 to me

02:34:02.000 and this

02:34:03.100 is just

02:34:03.440 my own

02:34:03.820 opinion

02:34:04.200 that by

02:34:05.460 continuing

02:34:05.900 to focus

02:34:06.480 on why

02:34:07.020 we continue

02:34:08.200 to give

02:34:08.580 Mr.

02:34:08.920 Kohlberger

02:34:09.300 relevance

02:34:10.100 we give

02:34:10.820 him agency

02:34:11.400 and we

02:34:11.920 give him

02:34:12.180 power

02:34:12.560 the need

02:34:15.140 to know

02:34:15.540 what is

02:34:16.100 inherently

02:34:16.660 not

02:34:17.160 understandable

02:34:17.900 makes us

02:34:19.320 dependent

02:34:19.720 upon the

02:34:20.240 defendant

02:34:20.600 to provide

02:34:21.180 us

02:34:21.500 with a

02:34:22.120 reason

02:34:22.420 and that

02:34:23.300 gives him

02:34:23.700 the spotlight

02:34:24.360 the attention

02:34:25.820 and the

02:34:26.660 power

02:34:27.060 he appears

02:34:28.220 to crave

02:34:28.780 yet even

02:34:30.800 if I could

02:34:31.200 force him

02:34:31.640 to speak

02:34:32.080 which legally

02:34:32.960 I cannot

02:34:33.560 how could

02:34:34.720 anyone ever

02:34:35.360 be assured

02:34:35.880 that what

02:34:36.280 he speaks

02:34:36.740 is the

02:34:37.100 truth

02:34:37.440 do we

02:34:40.100 really

02:34:40.400 believe

02:34:40.900 after all

02:34:42.120 of this

02:34:42.460 he's capable

02:34:43.040 of speaking

02:34:43.580 the truth

02:34:44.140 or of giving

02:34:44.900 up something

02:34:45.440 of himself

02:34:46.060 to help

02:34:46.860 the very

02:34:47.220 people whose

02:34:47.800 lives he

02:34:48.260 destroyed

02:34:48.700 rather I

02:34:51.180 suspect the

02:34:51.760 so-called

02:34:52.180 reason

02:34:52.660 would be

02:34:53.720 dished out

02:34:54.220 in enticing

02:34:54.860 self-serving

02:34:56.220 and aggrandizing

02:34:57.180 untruthful bits

02:34:58.340 leaving people

02:35:00.240 wanting more

02:35:00.940 information

02:35:01.520 more insight

02:35:02.280 and thus

02:35:03.140 enhancing

02:35:03.800 even further

02:35:04.520 the power

02:35:05.040 he seeks

02:35:05.480 to hold

02:35:05.960 even if we

02:35:07.980 could get

02:35:08.420 truthful insight

02:35:09.820 into his

02:35:10.560 why

02:35:10.880 I suspect

02:35:11.960 it would not

02:35:12.540 in any way

02:35:13.260 quench

02:35:13.660 one's thirst

02:35:14.340 for actually

02:35:14.960 understanding

02:35:15.800 why

02:35:16.260 in the first

02:35:17.100 instance

02:35:17.580 because there

02:35:19.040 is no reason

02:35:19.700 for these crimes

02:35:20.500 that could

02:35:20.820 approach

02:35:21.200 anything

02:35:21.840 resembling

02:35:23.440 rationality

02:35:24.360 no conceivable

02:35:26.980 reason

02:35:27.500 could make

02:35:28.340 any sense

02:35:29.460 and in the

02:35:31.980 end

02:35:32.240 the more

02:35:32.800 we struggle

02:35:33.320 to seek

02:35:33.820 explanation

02:35:34.520 for the

02:35:35.000 unexplainable

02:35:35.780 the more

02:35:36.960 we try

02:35:37.340 to extract

02:35:37.920 a reason

02:35:38.440 the more

02:35:39.240 power and

02:35:39.860 control

02:35:40.280 we give

02:35:41.000 to him

02:35:41.380 in my view

02:35:42.980 the time

02:35:43.380 has now

02:35:43.720 come to

02:35:44.200 end

02:35:44.420 Mr.

02:35:44.820 Kohlberger's

02:35:45.460 15 minutes

02:35:46.260 of fame

02:35:46.720 it's time

02:35:48.020 that he

02:35:48.300 be consigned

02:35:48.920 to the

02:35:49.480 ignominy

02:35:50.360 and isolation

02:35:51.400 of perpetual

02:35:52.280 incarceration

02:35:52.940 I know

02:35:56.060 there has

02:35:56.380 been concern

02:35:56.940 about him

02:35:57.380 collaborating

02:35:57.920 on books

02:35:58.580 or movies

02:35:59.100 or other

02:35:59.520 media projects

02:36:00.260 and I

02:36:00.640 truly hope

02:36:01.340 that someone

02:36:02.300 does not

02:36:02.820 stoop to

02:36:03.320 affording him

02:36:04.100 this spotlight

02:36:05.200 that he

02:36:06.020 desires

02:36:06.560 in the name

02:36:07.180 of cliques

02:36:07.800 royalties

02:36:09.560 or profits

02:36:10.840 well criminal

02:36:12.780 behavioralists

02:36:13.600 should study

02:36:14.480 him

02:36:14.780 away from

02:36:15.800 the spotlight

02:36:16.420 in an attempt

02:36:17.500 to prevent

02:36:18.460 other would-be

02:36:19.600 killers from

02:36:20.240 acting on

02:36:20.760 their worst

02:36:21.200 impulses

02:36:21.880 there should

02:36:23.100 be no need

02:36:23.840 for that

02:36:24.380 to spill

02:36:24.860 over into

02:36:25.360 the public

02:36:25.780 eye

02:36:26.100 the great

02:36:28.520 Idaho

02:36:28.960 jurist

02:36:29.680 Edward Lodge

02:36:30.640 was known

02:36:31.360 for trying

02:36:31.780 to find

02:36:32.160 something

02:36:32.520 positive

02:36:33.100 about every

02:36:33.780 person

02:36:34.140 he ever

02:36:34.560 sentenced

02:36:35.020 and with

02:36:36.440 over a

02:36:36.900 half a

02:36:37.260 century

02:36:37.500 as a

02:36:37.820 trial

02:36:38.060 judge

02:36:38.440 that was

02:36:39.240 a lot

02:36:39.480 of people

02:36:39.900 this was

02:36:41.880 often

02:36:42.140 challenging

02:36:42.660 and I

02:36:43.760 recall in

02:36:44.260 one case

02:36:44.800 he said

02:36:45.160 that the

02:36:45.460 best he

02:36:45.800 could come

02:36:46.180 up with

02:36:46.680 was the

02:36:47.340 defendant

02:36:47.660 had good

02:36:48.120 penmanship

02:36:48.620 truth be

02:36:51.660 told I'm

02:36:52.400 unable to

02:36:52.940 come up

02:36:53.260 with anything

02:36:53.800 redeeming

02:36:54.340 about Mr.

02:36:54.920 Koberger

02:36:55.320 because his

02:36:55.940 grotesque

02:36:56.600 acts of

02:36:57.520 evil have

02:36:58.380 buried and

02:36:58.880 hidden anything

02:36:59.620 that might

02:37:00.620 have been

02:37:00.960 good or

02:37:01.660 intrinsically

02:37:02.160 human about

02:37:02.980 him

02:37:03.240 his actions

02:37:05.160 have made

02:37:05.560 him the

02:37:05.860 worst of

02:37:06.240 the worst

02:37:06.720 even in

02:37:08.680 pleading

02:37:08.920 guilty

02:37:09.360 he's giving

02:37:10.640 nothing hinting

02:37:11.460 of remorse

02:37:12.120 or redemption

02:37:12.900 nothing suggesting

02:37:14.460 even a

02:37:15.740 recognition

02:37:16.260 or understanding

02:37:17.440 let alone

02:37:18.260 regret for

02:37:18.960 the pain

02:37:19.780 that he

02:37:20.040 has caused

02:37:20.600 and therefore

02:37:22.320 I will not

02:37:22.860 attempt to

02:37:23.320 speak about

02:37:24.780 him further

02:37:25.440 other than

02:37:26.220 to simply

02:37:26.680 sentence him

02:37:27.400 so that he

02:37:28.680 is forever

02:37:29.160 removed from

02:37:30.040 civilized

02:37:30.680 society

02:37:31.420 and accordingly

02:37:33.560 based upon his

02:37:34.380 conduct and based

02:37:35.260 upon the record

02:37:35.880 before this

02:37:36.460 court

02:37:36.800 recognizing the

02:37:38.820 standards that

02:37:39.380 govern this

02:37:39.860 court's

02:37:40.560 sentencing

02:37:40.920 decisions as

02:37:41.680 set forth in

02:37:42.360 state B2

02:37:42.960 Hill

02:37:43.200 I hereby

02:37:44.500 sentence Mr.

02:37:45.180 Kohlberger as

02:37:46.160 follows

02:37:46.660 on count

02:37:47.960 one

02:37:48.320 burglary

02:37:49.140 10 years

02:37:50.640 fixed

02:37:51.100 zero years

02:37:52.880 indeterminate

02:37:53.680 I also

02:37:55.280 impose a

02:37:55.860 fine of

02:37:56.220 $50,000

02:37:56.960 count two

02:37:59.640 first degree

02:38:00.300 murder of

02:38:00.920 Madison

02:38:01.300 Mogan

02:38:01.660 I sentence

02:38:02.820 the defendant

02:38:03.340 to a fixed

02:38:04.620 term of life

02:38:05.320 imprisonment

02:38:05.980 without the

02:38:06.460 possibility of

02:38:07.260 parole

02:38:07.640 a fine of

02:38:09.080 $50,000

02:38:09.840 and a

02:38:11.320 civil penalty

02:38:11.920 of $5,000

02:38:12.800 payable to

02:38:13.540 the family

02:38:13.940 of the

02:38:14.220 victim

02:38:14.500 on count

02:38:16.400 three

02:38:16.760 for first

02:38:18.420 degree

02:38:18.680 murder of

02:38:19.300 Kaley

02:38:19.600 Gonsalves

02:38:20.180 I sentence

02:38:20.900 the defendant

02:38:21.400 to a fixed

02:38:21.960 term of

02:38:22.460 life

02:38:22.700 imprisonment

02:38:23.380 without the

02:38:24.040 possibility

02:38:24.540 of parole

02:38:25.160 a fine

02:38:26.180 of $50,000

02:38:27.040 and a

02:38:28.120 civil penalty

02:38:28.720 of $5,000

02:38:29.700 payable to

02:38:30.580 the victim

02:38:30.980 of the

02:38:31.320 family

02:38:31.660 or to

02:38:33.160 the family

02:38:33.520 of the

02:38:33.780 victim

02:38:34.040 pardon me

02:38:34.880 on count

02:38:35.920 four

02:38:36.320 for the

02:38:37.240 first degree

02:38:37.720 murder

02:38:38.060 of

02:38:38.360 Xana

02:38:38.960 Kernotal

02:38:39.440 I sentence

02:38:40.560 the defendant

02:38:41.040 to a fixed

02:38:41.620 term of

02:38:42.000 life

02:38:42.220 imprisonment

02:38:42.860 without the

02:38:43.480 possibility

02:38:44.000 of parole

02:38:44.560 a fine

02:38:45.740 of $50,000

02:38:46.620 and a civil

02:38:47.620 penalty

02:38:47.980 of $5,000

02:38:48.920 payable

02:38:49.420 to the

02:38:50.300 family

02:38:50.640 of the

02:38:51.200 victim

02:38:51.520 on count

02:38:52.880 five

02:38:53.260 for the

02:38:53.600 first degree

02:38:54.060 murder

02:38:54.400 of Ethan

02:38:54.860 Chapin

02:38:55.300 I sentence

02:38:56.180 the defendant

02:38:56.740 to a fixed

02:38:57.320 term of

02:38:57.760 life

02:38:57.960 imprisonment

02:38:58.620 without the

02:38:59.380 possibility

02:38:59.840 of parole

02:39:00.400 a fine

02:39:01.480 of $50,000

02:39:02.440 and a civil

02:39:03.300 penalty

02:39:03.640 of $5,000

02:39:04.620 payable to

02:39:05.740 the family

02:39:06.200 of the

02:39:06.580 victim

02:39:06.880 the

02:39:08.300 sentences

02:39:08.680 on counts

02:39:09.220 one

02:39:09.520 two

02:39:09.800 three

02:39:10.180 four

02:39:10.600 and five

02:39:11.520 shall run

02:39:11.980 consecutively

02:39:12.760 to one

02:39:13.200 another

02:39:13.560 restitution

02:39:14.940 will be

02:39:15.300 left open

02:39:15.780 for 60

02:39:16.300 days

02:39:16.680 defendant

02:39:18.140 will be

02:39:19.120 required to

02:39:20.140 submit a

02:39:20.480 DNA sample

02:39:21.140 and a

02:39:21.380 right

02:39:21.520 thumbprint

02:39:21.980 impression

02:39:22.360 to the

02:39:23.280 Department

02:39:23.600 of Corrections

02:39:24.200 and comply

02:39:24.660 with the

02:39:25.200 DNA

02:39:25.420 Database

02:39:26.000 Act

02:39:26.340 I

02:39:27.440 remand

02:39:28.320 the

02:39:28.440 defendant

02:39:28.740 to the

02:39:29.080 custody

02:39:29.400 of the

02:39:29.680 Idaho

02:39:29.900 State

02:39:30.100 Board

02:39:30.320 of

02:39:30.480 Corrections

02:39:30.980 for to

02:39:32.000 be

02:39:32.120 imprisoned

02:39:32.540 in an

02:39:33.020 appropriate

02:39:33.300 facility

02:39:33.960 and execution

02:39:34.600 of the

02:39:34.980 sentence

02:39:35.300 where he

02:39:35.720 will remain

02:39:36.320 until he

02:39:37.540 dies

02:39:37.920 though you

02:39:40.700 waived your

02:39:41.140 right to

02:39:41.460 appeal

02:39:41.840 you do

02:39:42.500 have a

02:39:42.860 right to

02:39:43.200 file a

02:39:43.580 notice of

02:39:44.000 appeal

02:39:44.360 and any

02:39:45.620 such appeal

02:39:46.160 must be

02:39:46.600 filed within

02:39:47.080 42 days

02:39:47.860 the date

02:39:48.340 of the

02:39:49.120 written

02:39:49.320 judgment

02:39:49.760 which will

02:39:51.920 be entered

02:39:53.000 shortly

02:39:55.080 hereafter

02:39:55.840 though the

02:39:57.460 appeal you

02:39:58.320 should be

02:39:58.700 aware may

02:39:59.360 be deemed

02:39:59.780 a violation

02:40:00.420 of the

02:40:00.820 plea

02:40:01.020 agreement

02:40:01.440 and so I

02:40:02.400 certainly

02:40:02.780 suggest you

02:40:04.100 discuss that

02:40:04.780 with counsel

02:40:05.360 if that

02:40:06.260 is your

02:40:06.920 desire

02:40:07.320 I ask

02:40:10.940 the

02:40:11.500 media

02:40:14.100 and public

02:40:14.940 present to

02:40:15.760 allow the

02:40:16.600 families to

02:40:17.740 be escorted

02:40:18.740 out first

02:40:19.400 before they

02:40:19.940 leave

02:40:20.280 again thank

02:40:22.440 you to

02:40:23.040 everyone for

02:40:24.060 your stories

02:40:24.700 today I am

02:40:25.540 strengthened by

02:40:26.360 them and I

02:40:27.340 am encouraged

02:40:28.000 by your

02:40:28.520 humanity and

02:40:29.400 strength and

02:40:29.980 God bless

02:40:30.420 you

02:40:30.700 we're adjourned

02:40:31.940 incredible

02:40:38.420 day in

02:40:39.520 court in

02:40:40.160 Boise

02:40:40.480 Idaho not

02:40:41.320 far from

02:40:42.100 where these

02:40:42.520 crimes were

02:40:43.000 committed in

02:40:44.280 Moscow Idaho

02:40:45.020 were for

02:40:45.560 college students

02:40:46.280 with everything

02:40:46.900 in front of

02:40:47.460 them happy

02:40:48.520 lives beautiful

02:40:49.720 friendships

02:40:50.260 boyfriends

02:40:51.200 girlfriends

02:40:51.600 families who

02:40:52.300 love them

02:40:52.800 went to

02:40:54.080 college one

02:40:54.560 day and

02:40:56.100 for some

02:40:56.540 reason as

02:40:57.740 the judge

02:40:58.060 points out

02:40:58.980 that we'll

02:40:59.440 never fully

02:41:00.140 understand had

02:41:02.020 their lives

02:41:02.380 snuffed out

02:41:02.960 at 412 in

02:41:04.080 the morning by

02:41:05.420 that thing

02:41:06.040 sitting there

02:41:07.240 at counsel's

02:41:08.520 table wearing

02:41:09.540 orange Brian

02:41:11.380 Kohlberger he

02:41:13.160 didn't speak at

02:41:13.820 all except for

02:41:14.680 the one line

02:41:16.000 when the court

02:41:17.560 said Mr.

02:41:18.620 Kohlberger do

02:41:19.100 you wish to

02:41:19.540 make a

02:41:19.820 statement and

02:41:21.660 like the good

02:41:22.200 little school

02:41:22.740 boy he said

02:41:23.780 I respectfully

02:41:24.480 decline still

02:41:25.440 looking for

02:41:26.020 some sort of

02:41:26.700 pat on the

02:41:27.620 top of the

02:41:28.100 head still

02:41:28.680 acting like

02:41:29.560 the PhD

02:41:30.120 student who

02:41:30.860 could get

02:41:31.140 an A for

02:41:32.440 his classroom

02:41:33.300 behavior and

02:41:34.300 trying to fool

02:41:35.140 us into

02:41:36.060 thinking he's

02:41:37.140 respectful in

02:41:38.500 any way here's

02:41:39.180 here's that

02:41:39.620 moment

02:41:39.920 all right Mr.

02:41:41.900 Kohlberger you

02:41:42.820 have an

02:41:43.140 opportunity to

02:41:43.620 make a

02:41:43.900 statement if

02:41:44.300 you wish to

02:41:44.720 I take it

02:41:45.120 you are

02:41:45.360 declining I

02:41:47.460 respectfully

02:41:48.100 decline what's

02:41:51.760 that about what

02:41:52.420 does he think

02:41:52.740 he's fooling what

02:41:53.880 a joke this man

02:41:54.680 is I use that

02:41:56.300 term very loosely

02:41:57.020 the judge

02:41:58.060 sentencing him

02:41:58.700 as expected to

02:41:59.760 the maximum on

02:42:00.900 all counts 10

02:42:02.320 years in prison on

02:42:03.360 the burglary

02:42:03.820 count life without

02:42:05.700 well he didn't say

02:42:06.380 without parole talk

02:42:07.120 to Matt about that

02:42:07.740 a minute but life

02:42:08.520 for Maddie life

02:42:09.720 for Kaylee life

02:42:10.540 for Zanna life

02:42:11.600 for Ethan to run

02:42:12.440 consecutively meaning

02:42:13.500 one after the

02:42:14.900 other along with

02:42:16.440 $50,000 in fines

02:42:18.620 for each victim

02:42:19.540 and a $5,000

02:42:22.060 civil penalty to

02:42:23.680 the family

02:42:24.160 this is the end

02:42:27.940 technically guys

02:42:28.900 my panel's back

02:42:29.780 with me Phil

02:42:30.280 Holloway

02:42:30.760 Howard Bloom

02:42:32.200 and Matt Murphy

02:42:33.060 this is the end

02:42:33.820 I don't know

02:42:35.920 it's it feels

02:42:37.140 I guess it feels

02:42:39.060 unsatisfying

02:42:39.980 Matt you've been

02:42:40.580 through this so

02:42:41.060 many times

02:42:41.620 does it always

02:42:42.140 feel unsatisfying

02:42:43.420 well it's it's

02:42:48.180 always a little

02:42:48.680 anticlimactic when

02:42:49.740 there's a plea

02:42:50.380 Megan I think

02:42:51.660 that if this was

02:42:53.100 a sentencing

02:42:53.660 after a jury

02:42:54.400 trial we might

02:42:56.280 feel a little bit

02:42:56.840 different because

02:42:57.560 we would have

02:42:58.100 really seen the

02:42:59.240 exhaustion of all

02:43:00.020 the evidence that

02:43:00.600 was available we

02:43:01.320 would have seen

02:43:01.980 and heard every

02:43:03.560 detail of this

02:43:04.480 investigation and

02:43:05.820 I just again I

02:43:07.520 have said it

02:43:08.000 before but kudos

02:43:08.840 to the police

02:43:09.480 here they really

02:43:10.500 are the heroes

02:43:11.180 on this from the

02:43:12.560 local police

02:43:13.100 department to the

02:43:14.700 state troopers of

02:43:15.760 Idaho to the

02:43:16.780 FBI they really

02:43:18.300 did an outstanding

02:43:19.300 job and I hope

02:43:20.560 people remember

02:43:21.780 that the only

02:43:22.560 reason why we

02:43:23.080 had the sensing

02:43:23.640 is because of

02:43:24.360 the hard work of

02:43:25.020 those men and

02:43:25.500 women and I

02:43:26.740 was really grateful

02:43:27.960 to see the

02:43:28.700 family members

02:43:29.560 acknowledge them

02:43:30.440 and that even

02:43:31.460 even Mr.

02:43:32.840 Gonzales as

02:43:34.000 angry as he

02:43:34.580 was he he

02:43:35.560 gave a shout

02:43:36.040 out to the

02:43:36.460 police which I

02:43:37.320 thought was

02:43:37.800 really dignified

02:43:39.980 but I'm just

02:43:42.140 I'm struck by

02:43:42.780 this judge it's

02:43:43.520 important for

02:43:43.960 people to

02:43:44.320 remember that all

02:43:44.960 judges are not

02:43:45.660 created equal

02:43:46.400 and this judge

02:43:48.840 Hitler did a

02:43:49.500 fantastic job I

02:43:50.500 thought that his

02:43:50.940 comments were

02:43:51.460 exactly on point

02:43:52.260 and I think that

02:43:52.960 he really spoke

02:43:54.000 to all of us

02:43:54.540 when he said

02:43:55.260 you know the

02:43:56.300 more we wonder

02:43:57.040 why in something

02:43:58.160 that he would

02:43:58.560 never tell the

02:43:59.160 truth on and

02:43:59.940 is really

02:44:00.440 unexplainable

02:44:01.240 anyway the

02:44:02.220 more we

02:44:02.920 continue to

02:44:03.420 give him

02:44:03.740 power now

02:44:04.280 everybody wants

02:44:04.920 to know why

02:44:05.580 because we

02:44:06.020 want to prevent

02:44:07.200 it we want to

02:44:07.820 see it coming

02:44:08.480 we want to

02:44:09.020 know what to

02:44:09.620 look for to

02:44:10.380 prevent the

02:44:10.820 next Brian

02:44:11.540 Koberger but

02:44:12.580 I thought that

02:44:13.220 I thought that

02:44:14.180 he was

02:44:14.560 outstanding and

02:44:15.760 remember he

02:44:16.640 did not have

02:44:17.180 to impose

02:44:17.660 that this

02:44:19.040 was discretionary

02:44:20.040 with the

02:44:20.460 court that was

02:44:21.160 one of my

02:44:21.520 criticisms of

02:44:22.300 Thompson at

02:44:22.800 the beginning

02:44:23.160 he surrendered

02:44:24.020 that power to

02:44:26.320 sentence to

02:44:27.140 the they call

02:44:28.400 it fixed life

02:44:29.120 in Idaho which

02:44:29.800 is life without

02:44:30.400 possibility or

02:44:31.120 parole the

02:44:32.000 court imposed

02:44:32.860 that upon its

02:44:33.560 own discretion

02:44:34.180 so hats off

02:44:36.180 to the court

02:44:37.480 I thought I

02:44:38.180 thought that

02:44:38.680 judge really

02:44:39.460 did an

02:44:39.900 outstanding job

02:44:40.640 today and he

02:44:41.680 did exactly the

02:44:42.400 right thing and

02:44:42.920 I thought his

02:44:43.580 comments are

02:44:44.540 something that we

02:44:45.280 should all think

02:44:45.720 about it was it

02:44:47.860 was a new

02:44:48.460 perspective setter

02:44:49.280 because we're

02:44:49.880 also unsatisfied

02:44:50.880 without with him

02:44:52.300 not having to

02:44:52.960 explain why but

02:44:53.880 it was a good

02:44:54.360 reminder of like

02:44:55.320 who cares who

02:44:56.940 cares could it

02:44:57.480 what could he

02:44:57.800 possibly say

02:44:58.600 that would

02:44:58.900 satisfy any

02:45:00.260 of us

02:45:00.700 you know

02:45:01.020 this this

02:45:01.560 cretin this

02:45:02.260 this human

02:45:03.140 excrement

02:45:03.700 sitting there

02:45:04.180 I don't know

02:45:04.560 what happened

02:45:05.040 to him but

02:45:05.980 he doesn't

02:45:06.320 seem human

02:45:06.920 to me he

02:45:07.520 seems other

02:45:08.260 worldly and

02:45:09.560 I don't mean

02:45:09.960 that in a

02:45:10.400 complimentary

02:45:10.760 way he just

02:45:11.520 seems like

02:45:12.000 something frankly

02:45:13.420 that needs to

02:45:13.940 be snuffed

02:45:14.360 out but the

02:45:14.920 next best

02:45:15.380 thing Howard

02:45:16.340 is to have

02:45:17.000 him rot in

02:45:17.560 prison for

02:45:17.960 the rest of

02:45:18.340 his life and

02:45:18.820 I'm picturing

02:45:19.660 the door closing

02:45:20.720 behind him as

02:45:22.180 the judge said

02:45:23.020 I'm from

02:45:25.180 the set

02:45:26.180 that finds

02:45:26.660 this deeply

02:45:27.420 unsatisfying

02:45:28.580 there are two

02:45:29.840 diametrically

02:45:30.980 opposed positions

02:45:32.060 presented today

02:45:33.200 one was by

02:45:34.280 the Gonsalves

02:45:35.060 family that

02:45:36.280 raised questions

02:45:37.760 specific questions

02:45:38.880 they wanted

02:45:39.340 answers the

02:45:40.900 judge in

02:45:41.620 effect said

02:45:42.280 let's move

02:45:43.000 on he said

02:45:43.560 that literally

02:45:44.200 let's move

02:45:45.200 on we can

02:45:46.100 forget about

02:45:46.660 it well I

02:45:47.900 think it's too

02:45:48.440 soon to forget

02:45:49.060 about it yes

02:45:49.860 we'll never know

02:45:50.840 a rational reason

02:45:51.880 why he did it

02:45:52.840 but there still

02:45:53.940 are other

02:45:54.400 questions remaining

02:45:55.600 where is the

02:45:56.800 knife how did

02:45:57.840 he cover up

02:45:58.680 his tracks I

02:45:59.940 would like more

02:46:00.760 answers I think

02:46:01.780 the people of

02:46:03.380 Idaho the

02:46:04.220 families and

02:46:05.420 all of us the

02:46:06.320 public should

02:46:06.920 have been

02:46:07.200 presented with

02:46:08.300 more answers

02:46:09.060 you know I

02:46:10.520 did think it

02:46:10.840 was a little

02:46:11.200 odd Phil that

02:46:12.260 the prosecutor

02:46:12.920 Bill Thompson

02:46:13.580 spent a good

02:46:14.780 chunk of his

02:46:15.520 closing remarks

02:46:16.200 trying to talk

02:46:17.680 about how he

02:46:18.380 notified the

02:46:19.180 families of

02:46:20.540 the pending

02:46:21.060 plea it was

02:46:22.420 like he was

02:46:23.000 trying to

02:46:23.420 rehabilitate

02:46:24.300 himself in

02:46:26.340 response to

02:46:26.980 Steve

02:46:27.220 Gonsalves

02:46:27.720 complaints about

02:46:29.260 the way the

02:46:30.100 plea was

02:46:30.480 handled I

02:46:30.980 just thought

02:46:31.300 that was

02:46:31.560 totally

02:46:31.900 inappropriate it

02:46:32.880 reminded me of

02:46:33.500 the judge at

02:46:34.960 when Kohlberger

02:46:36.020 you know pleaded

02:46:37.700 guilty making it

02:46:39.400 all about the

02:46:39.960 phone calls he'd

02:46:40.820 received from

02:46:41.400 people who are

02:46:41.920 out like stop

02:46:42.700 making it about

02:46:43.200 yourself this

02:46:43.820 isn't about you

02:46:44.520 rehabbing you

02:46:46.020 you know I've

02:46:48.100 been pretty

02:46:48.440 critical about this

02:46:49.540 prosecution team

02:46:50.680 not for the

02:46:51.480 quality of the

02:46:52.800 case they put

02:46:53.420 together because

02:46:54.120 as others have

02:46:55.000 correctly mentioned

02:46:56.220 they did a great

02:46:57.160 job along with

02:46:57.980 the law enforcement

02:46:58.720 who investigated

02:46:59.680 this case but

02:47:00.540 from a PR

02:47:01.940 perspective I

02:47:03.140 think that they

02:47:03.960 really dropped

02:47:05.060 the ball and to

02:47:05.840 see an extension

02:47:07.180 of that today it

02:47:08.460 was almost like you

02:47:09.360 saw a little bit

02:47:10.420 of grandstanding

02:47:11.300 this is not a

02:47:12.560 there's no jury

02:47:13.520 present it's just

02:47:15.140 a judge this is a

02:47:16.120 non-jury proceeding

02:47:17.160 so it was a bit

02:47:18.760 over the top in

02:47:19.720 terms of theatrics

02:47:20.920 and and as you

02:47:21.920 mentioned it seemed

02:47:22.720 to be aimed at

02:47:24.320 rehabilitating their

02:47:26.260 own image for for

02:47:28.280 those of us in the

02:47:29.000 public who are being

02:47:30.300 somewhat critical

02:47:31.180 they in my view

02:47:32.780 should have had all

02:47:33.800 of the families in

02:47:34.820 agreement on this

02:47:36.480 plea deal or there

02:47:37.600 would be no deal

02:47:38.440 that's just my

02:47:39.280 opinion that's how I

02:47:40.280 would have played it

02:47:40.980 if I had been the

02:47:41.780 prosecutor because

02:47:42.640 that would have

02:47:43.460 perhaps left us

02:47:44.900 with perhaps some

02:47:46.200 little bit

02:47:46.900 more increased

02:47:48.400 measure of

02:47:48.980 satisfaction we're

02:47:50.280 all left unsatisfied

02:47:51.400 right now think

02:47:52.200 about how the

02:47:52.800 families must feel

02:47:53.800 as they're leaving

02:47:54.480 the courthouse but

02:47:55.240 had there been a

02:47:55.820 trial and a

02:47:57.020 sentencing hearing

02:47:57.880 with evidence and

02:48:00.060 aggravation we

02:48:00.940 might have known a

02:48:02.640 lot more because as

02:48:03.780 we go forward today

02:48:04.880 we're all left with

02:48:06.060 these lingering

02:48:06.620 questions of why

02:48:07.860 why did this have to

02:48:08.980 happen why did it

02:48:10.000 happen and because I

02:48:12.200 think the decisions

02:48:13.080 the prosecutor made

02:48:14.240 we're going to be

02:48:15.080 left with these

02:48:15.800 answers and let me

02:48:16.520 just point this one

02:48:17.620 thing out this

02:48:19.160 court today rendered

02:48:21.200 a judgment there

02:48:22.720 can be a judgment

02:48:23.560 in any case but

02:48:25.160 when we speak of

02:48:25.880 what justice is was

02:48:27.580 justice delivered you

02:48:29.320 know justice is one

02:48:30.260 of those words that's

02:48:31.160 incapable of being

02:48:32.160 defined and it's in

02:48:33.660 the eye of the

02:48:34.300 beholder but I would

02:48:35.220 submit that there is

02:48:36.640 no amount of

02:48:37.760 justice whatever it

02:48:39.060 may be that can

02:48:40.720 possibly apply to

02:48:41.960 this case because the

02:48:44.460 magnitude of the

02:48:45.760 destruction not only

02:48:47.560 of the individual's

02:48:48.920 lives who were

02:48:49.560 taken but the

02:48:50.320 but the destruction

02:48:51.660 that is left in the

02:48:53.180 wake of this evil

02:48:54.940 evil evil act is

02:48:57.160 not capable of

02:48:58.760 receiving adequate

02:49:00.400 justice in my view so

02:49:02.040 there's I think

02:49:03.980 always going to be

02:49:04.900 some measure of

02:49:05.780 dissatisfaction because

02:49:07.020 justice just can't

02:49:08.560 address this kind of

02:49:10.100 evil.

02:49:10.400 that's so well

02:49:12.020 said it's just it

02:49:13.260 captures what I'm

02:49:13.980 feeling right now

02:49:14.680 when when I listen

02:49:15.900 to for example

02:49:16.760 Kaylee's sister speak

02:49:18.380 I felt like yes

02:49:20.000 this is what I want

02:49:21.340 you know I want to

02:49:22.100 hear him humiliated

02:49:24.460 I'm enjoying this

02:49:25.560 that piece but

02:49:27.420 everything else has

02:49:28.940 just left me with

02:49:29.600 this empty feeling

02:49:30.800 of like why not

02:49:33.340 not demanding an

02:49:34.520 explanation but just

02:49:35.280 the you know the

02:49:36.080 human evil that the

02:49:37.200 evil that that walks

02:49:38.920 amongst us as human

02:49:40.100 beings and the

02:49:41.080 snuffing out of these

02:49:41.960 four lives with

02:49:42.740 nothing but promise

02:49:43.700 in front of them and

02:49:44.660 Steve Gonsalves was

02:49:45.680 right they did a very

02:49:46.660 good job those families

02:49:47.680 of getting out the

02:49:49.580 videos of those four

02:49:50.900 kids and helping us

02:49:52.120 get to know them

02:49:53.160 Howard and fall in

02:49:54.560 love with the four of

02:49:55.400 them and their huge

02:49:56.400 thousand watt smiles

02:49:58.140 and the the joy they

02:49:59.560 clearly felt on the

02:50:01.160 Idaho campus and the

02:50:02.560 football games they

02:50:03.380 celebrated and the

02:50:04.160 dance parties the one

02:50:05.980 sister mentioned you

02:50:07.560 know like these these

02:50:08.940 were jubilant really

02:50:10.420 happy lovely kids just

02:50:13.120 American kids trying to

02:50:14.440 get an education and

02:50:15.260 have a good time and

02:50:16.980 he he resented it

02:50:18.820 without him saying

02:50:19.580 anything we know you've

02:50:21.000 written about it he

02:50:21.960 couldn't stand their

02:50:23.440 happiness I mean Steve

02:50:25.840 to my mind is a hero

02:50:27.400 throughout this whole

02:50:28.320 thing he refused to

02:50:30.140 just move on everyone

02:50:31.520 else to judge the

02:50:32.940 prosecutor they kept on

02:50:34.520 repeating that phrase

02:50:35.580 it's time to move on

02:50:37.160 it's time to move on

02:50:38.340 well the reality is none

02:50:40.420 of these families are

02:50:41.340 ever going to be able to

02:50:42.320 move on I don't think

02:50:43.520 the town of Moscow will

02:50:44.700 be able to move on and

02:50:46.100 I think we should have

02:50:46.960 been given some answers

02:50:48.540 you know the sister

02:50:50.240 Olivia raised the

02:50:51.440 questions the questions

02:50:52.920 were as you pointed out

02:50:54.100 very similar to the

02:50:55.600 questions Kohlberger

02:50:56.960 included in his master's

02:50:58.700 dissertation they

02:50:59.540 distributed prisons he

02:51:01.280 should be asked those

02:51:02.800 questions we should be get

02:51:04.200 those answers you know

02:51:06.680 that's the other thing

02:51:07.400 the judge is like well I

02:51:08.320 really hope no journalist

02:51:09.860 or you know publishing

02:51:11.240 house gives him the

02:51:13.340 opportunity to give an

02:51:14.100 interview or write a book

02:51:15.040 first of all he's not

02:51:16.040 allowed to make money on a

02:51:17.020 book that's that's illegal

02:51:18.740 but that's not to say I

02:51:20.800 guess one couldn't be

02:51:21.620 published and where he

02:51:22.440 wouldn't get paid and he

02:51:23.620 certainly is going to get

02:51:24.540 the knock on the door from

02:51:25.600 journalists up and down

02:51:27.640 the spectrum and Catherine

02:51:30.780 Remsfeld or Rumsfeld or

02:51:32.500 whatever her last name or

02:51:33.240 unless I'm forgetting her

02:51:34.540 last name thank you

02:51:36.280 Ramsland his former

02:51:37.920 master's professor at

02:51:40.480 DeSales University has

02:51:41.600 said she'd like to study

02:51:42.520 him he'll love all of

02:51:43.740 that look that's just

02:51:44.600 human nature people want

02:51:45.840 to study serial killers

02:51:47.400 it's a natural thing we

02:51:48.720 want to understand but I

02:51:50.140 will say to this judge

02:51:51.260 Hitler you know what

02:51:52.400 would have made it

02:51:52.980 slightly less likely is

02:51:54.620 if your DA required him

02:51:56.640 to really cop to the crime

02:51:58.700 and explain himself at this

02:52:00.880 sentencing hearing Matt

02:52:01.880 you know like him

02:52:02.720 allowing this defendant to

02:52:05.440 remain an enigma to not

02:52:07.100 say anything is only going

02:52:08.680 to make the press and

02:52:09.700 everyone else more

02:52:10.900 interested in him yeah can

02:52:14.400 I I want to add on onto

02:52:16.120 that a little bit Megan

02:52:16.880 and I want to be fair here

02:52:18.280 because it's a tough job

02:52:20.460 you're the elected DA you

02:52:21.640 got a lot going on you have

02:52:22.700 the families there are good

02:52:24.600 reasons look when it comes

02:52:26.600 to appellate issues things

02:52:28.260 like that all of that is

02:52:29.360 real and it gives some

02:52:31.340 finality I hate the word

02:52:32.780 closure he used it I think

02:52:34.220 that's a trope these

02:52:35.160 families like Howard

02:52:36.340 pointed out there's no

02:52:37.080 closure for them but so

02:52:39.320 that said I want to be

02:52:40.840 fair to the prosecutor

02:52:41.580 however that little speech

02:52:43.440 that he gave that

02:52:45.340 performative aspect of that

02:52:46.620 first of all the seminal

02:52:47.940 case in the United States

02:52:49.360 okay things to be out of

02:52:51.400 Idaho to Sonia Sotomayor

02:52:53.200 2019 opinion from the

02:52:54.620 United States Supreme Court

02:52:55.720 called Garza versus Idaho

02:52:57.560 see Thompson made this big

02:52:59.800 point of saying he waived

02:53:00.820 his appellate rights the

02:53:02.480 case in the United States

02:53:03.640 is out of Idaho that says

02:53:04.800 you can't actually ever

02:53:06.240 waive your appellate

02:53:07.080 rights okay so that's not

02:53:09.120 real and it is the law

02:53:11.600 that he can still as the

02:53:13.180 court pointed out at the

02:53:14.360 at the end you got 42

02:53:15.380 days to file your notice

02:53:16.360 of appeal it might breach

02:53:17.860 the plea because that

02:53:19.640 essentially is a contract

02:53:20.720 but now it's post

02:53:21.420 sentencing I wouldn't be

02:53:22.960 at all surprised if we

02:53:23.880 see him file notice of

02:53:24.920 appeal and you can do that

02:53:26.640 and that's for direct

02:53:27.640 appeal we still have the

02:53:28.740 entire habeas process which

02:53:30.440 is another way to challenge

02:53:31.520 a conviction and Thompson

02:53:33.940 gave that up with this

02:53:35.200 plea he did he did he

02:53:36.720 knows he did and look

02:53:38.480 there's good reasons for

02:53:39.720 good reasons against I'm

02:53:41.360 going to fill up here I

02:53:43.160 wouldn't have given him

02:53:44.220 this deal you know

02:53:45.820 death penalty cases are

02:53:46.840 hard that goes with the

02:53:48.280 job dealing with family

02:53:49.820 members who disagree you

02:53:51.140 know also that's a part of

02:53:53.380 the job but another thing

02:53:54.980 that really does disturb

02:53:56.620 me a little bit on this

02:53:58.500 is there's a saying

02:54:00.160 Megan so goes California

02:54:02.440 goes the rest of the

02:54:03.320 nation we've all heard

02:54:04.200 that before there are

02:54:05.640 huge movements and

02:54:07.900 legislative pushes in the

02:54:10.900 state of California to

02:54:11.720 eliminate LWAP or life

02:54:12.980 without possibility parole

02:54:14.200 as a sentence 40 years is

02:54:16.220 a long time and the last

02:54:17.700 time we talked about this I

02:54:19.780 said I think he's going to

02:54:21.080 get a parole hearing one

02:54:21.960 day and under current

02:54:23.960 Idaho law he he will not

02:54:26.280 the way the court did

02:54:27.420 this they call it fixed

02:54:28.460 life almost every other

02:54:29.480 state calls it life

02:54:30.340 without possibility of

02:54:31.160 parole I think it's

02:54:32.920 North Carolina calls it

02:54:34.040 life without mercy every

02:54:35.240 state has its own

02:54:36.200 I want to hear the end of

02:54:38.140 this but I'm about to

02:54:39.360 hit a hard break on

02:54:40.140 Sirius XM what will

02:54:41.180 continue on pod and

02:54:42.160 youtube.com slash Megan

02:54:43.180 Kelly Sirius XMers thank

02:54:44.840 you for tuning in and

02:54:45.640 we'll see you over at

02:54:46.340 YouTube and on pod

02:54:47.520 and we're back Matt

02:54:53.760 go ahead and finish it

02:54:54.780 up the the DA's sort

02:54:58.800 of statement that he

02:55:00.320 waived his appellate

02:55:01.340 rights it's just he did

02:55:03.180 on paper but it doesn't

02:55:04.400 doesn't actually mean

02:55:05.820 anything he can still

02:55:06.820 appeal it may be a

02:55:07.860 tougher appellate road he

02:55:09.220 can still do a direct

02:55:10.160 appeal he just has to

02:55:11.360 accuse his defense

02:55:12.160 lawyers of ineffective

02:55:12.980 assistance counsel I

02:55:14.340 wouldn't be at all

02:55:14.900 surprised to see that

02:55:15.880 and then of course 40

02:55:17.160 years is an awful long

02:55:18.140 time for them to get

02:55:19.020 an opportunity to to

02:55:21.380 switch the law you

02:55:22.360 know and look the

02:55:23.860 Menezes brothers got

02:55:24.760 life without possibility

02:55:25.640 of parole in

02:55:26.120 California and we know

02:55:26.940 what just happened

02:55:27.520 there there have been

02:55:28.120 significant legislative

02:55:29.180 actions that allow

02:55:30.500 people with life

02:55:31.640 without possibility

02:55:32.320 parole sentences in

02:55:33.720 other states to now

02:55:34.780 get them so that was

02:55:36.800 he stood up he said

02:55:38.300 that it sounded awful

02:55:39.600 good however you know

02:55:42.040 there's a lot more to

02:55:43.120 it and I hope it's the

02:55:44.120 end I hope him going

02:55:45.540 away and the door

02:55:46.620 closing and all that

02:55:47.660 stuff is is the end

02:55:49.600 but it legally it's

02:55:51.040 really not

02:55:51.780 tell can I add let me

02:55:54.340 add something to that

02:55:55.120 if I can I'm glad that

02:55:56.460 we're talking about

02:55:58.240 ineffective assistance

02:55:59.160 of counsel this of

02:56:00.160 course being a sixth

02:56:01.720 amendment right that

02:56:03.640 you have under the u.s

02:56:04.440 constitution and each

02:56:05.440 state has their own

02:56:06.400 all he would really need

02:56:08.000 to do is say look we

02:56:10.620 had identified four

02:56:11.960 other people and we

02:56:12.900 were prepared to blame

02:56:14.040 them uh at trial as

02:56:16.340 being potential the

02:56:18.280 other the real killer

02:56:19.340 okay but my lawyers

02:56:20.980 talked me out of going

02:56:22.600 forward with the trial

02:56:23.500 even though um I

02:56:25.360 wanted to say that

02:56:26.320 other people uh committed

02:56:28.480 this crime and then

02:56:29.500 you've got that could

02:56:30.500 really happen that

02:56:31.280 would just just to

02:56:31.940 interrupt you for one

02:56:32.580 one quick second that

02:56:33.700 really could happen as

02:56:34.680 Howard was reporting

02:56:35.600 on this um leading up

02:56:37.680 to the trial that Ann

02:56:38.840 Taylor was jumping up

02:56:39.800 and down seemingly

02:56:40.560 wanting him to plead

02:56:42.100 this out and

02:56:42.860 Kohlberger there was

02:56:44.400 talk about whether

02:56:45.080 she'd have to like try

02:56:45.920 to get him declared

02:56:46.720 incompetent or do

02:56:47.700 something with around

02:56:49.120 his alleged autism to

02:56:50.360 try to force this plea

02:56:51.800 deal on him keep going

02:56:52.800 Phil yeah so you know

02:56:54.440 so he can raise this

02:56:55.760 issue on collateral

02:56:57.040 attack on what we call

02:56:58.320 a habeas kind of an

02:56:59.460 appeal um and he's not

02:57:01.600 essentially I think

02:57:02.660 breaching the plea deal

02:57:04.220 because he's not

02:57:04.960 necessarily uh appealing

02:57:06.760 any of the pretrial

02:57:07.800 rulings made in the

02:57:08.700 case he's saying that

02:57:10.020 my rights were

02:57:11.140 violated today during

02:57:13.360 this sentencing process

02:57:14.680 because my lawyers uh

02:57:16.780 didn't do their job now

02:57:17.720 that's not saying I'm

02:57:18.760 not saying that's the

02:57:19.580 case necessarily but

02:57:20.480 that's the argument that

02:57:21.980 could be made so to for

02:57:23.960 the prosecutor to sit

02:57:25.100 there and say for

02:57:25.980 everybody's benefit I

02:57:27.600 guess that there's just

02:57:29.020 not going to be any

02:57:29.920 appeal was a little bit

02:57:31.140 disingenuous and it

02:57:32.420 certainly doesn't reflect

02:57:33.600 the law that exists in

02:57:35.960 the United States as

02:57:37.120 was correctly pointed

02:57:38.300 out uh and it also

02:57:40.080 you know just to wrap

02:57:41.480 up this point if

02:57:43.260 you're going to file a

02:57:44.580 motion saying to the

02:57:46.280 judge look we want to

02:57:47.780 blame three or four or

02:57:49.280 five other people for

02:57:50.560 this and we've we've

02:57:51.620 got some evidence of

02:57:52.660 it you better have

02:57:53.620 really really good

02:57:54.720 evidence because when

02:57:56.280 when that motion fails

02:57:58.300 and then you're on the

02:57:59.140 the eve of trial and

02:58:00.840 your client figures out

02:58:02.040 okay the limelight is

02:58:03.320 over it's time to put

02:58:04.700 up or shut up and

02:58:05.580 we're at the foot of

02:58:06.240 the cross you look

02:58:08.020 like a fool for

02:58:09.420 bringing this motion

02:58:10.620 saying we've got

02:58:11.420 evidence that four or

02:58:12.400 five other people may

02:58:13.700 have been the guilty

02:58:14.440 party here uh and

02:58:16.280 then you just kind of

02:58:17.300 immediately switch gear

02:58:18.560 to admit under oath

02:58:20.200 that no uh this

02:58:21.680 individual client did

02:58:23.140 in fact commit this

02:58:24.340 crime exactly as

02:58:25.680 alleged so I'm like

02:58:27.080 why do you even try

02:58:28.400 to go down that road

02:58:29.640 unless you've got

02:58:30.360 really really solid

02:58:31.700 evidence of it

02:58:32.600 I think I did that

02:58:34.580 I'm sorry

02:58:35.040 I think you look like

02:58:38.200 a fool I mean that's

02:58:39.740 something pernicious and

02:58:41.000 malicious they put four

02:58:42.500 names into that document

02:58:44.080 the document and the

02:58:45.480 motion has been redacted

02:58:47.040 but someday this might

02:58:48.360 very well come out

02:58:49.380 those four people we

02:58:50.600 branded as life as

02:58:52.860 possible suspects

02:58:54.240 possible killers and

02:58:56.040 yet the judge said

02:58:56.880 there's no evidence

02:58:57.860 that was a very

02:58:59.380 pernicious act on the

02:59:01.960 part of Ann Taylor I

02:59:03.100 think it's unforgivable

02:59:04.140 well let me add to that

02:59:05.700 just one other point

02:59:06.420 that you heard a lot of

02:59:08.120 people reference it um

02:59:09.320 the DA referenced it

02:59:10.440 the judge referenced it

02:59:11.860 some of the family

02:59:12.620 members mentioned the

02:59:13.820 media attention and in

02:59:15.480 this very interesting

02:59:16.160 Amazon Prime documentary

02:59:17.260 um on this case that

02:59:19.440 just hit forgive me I

02:59:21.620 can't remember the name

02:59:22.220 of it it's like the

02:59:23.320 it's about the Idaho

02:59:24.220 four um but it's on

02:59:25.840 Amazon Prime right now

02:59:26.660 one night in Idaho

02:59:28.700 thank you my team um

02:59:30.240 they talk a lot about

02:59:31.740 the online crime sleuth

02:59:34.500 community and how

02:59:36.020 rabid they've been and

02:59:37.480 frankly irresponsible

02:59:38.900 some have really been

02:59:40.420 in reporting on this

02:59:41.640 case and pointing the

02:59:42.860 finger at anyone and

02:59:44.180 everyone and sort of

02:59:45.080 dragging innocent young

02:59:46.520 men who are just

02:59:47.200 standing there into this

02:59:48.420 case as alleged

02:59:49.220 suspects and terrorizing

02:59:51.940 you know the other

02:59:52.740 roommates and some of

02:59:53.800 the friends and um like

02:59:55.980 the one guy who was

02:59:57.220 just the sober driver

02:59:59.080 at the local

03:00:00.100 fraternity where

03:00:01.920 Ethan Chapin's uh he

03:00:04.180 was I think he was a

03:00:04.900 member there his name

03:00:06.460 was dragged through the

03:00:07.040 mud and so on so they

03:00:07.900 they did make a point

03:00:10.200 about you know all

03:00:11.320 those media people and

03:00:12.860 how irresponsible they

03:00:14.780 were I mean I think

03:00:16.000 that's a legitimate

03:00:17.000 point I can't remember

03:00:17.880 why I'm raising this

03:00:18.680 but but oh that's why

03:00:20.300 that's why because

03:00:20.900 because now and Taylor

03:00:23.820 you know she puts in a

03:00:25.920 document these four

03:00:26.580 other names that

03:00:27.500 eventually is going to

03:00:28.300 go out there and what

03:00:29.600 do you think that

03:00:29.980 online community the

03:00:31.040 ones who are

03:00:31.520 irresponsible they're not

03:00:32.500 all uh is going to do

03:00:34.120 with those names I

03:00:35.580 literally am still

03:00:36.800 getting texts from

03:00:37.920 random people some I

03:00:39.560 know some I know

03:00:40.300 rejecting this telling

03:00:42.320 me he didn't he either

03:00:43.560 didn't do it or he

03:00:44.940 didn't do it alone I

03:00:46.540 mean these are smart

03:00:47.340 people who just aren't

03:00:49.000 accepting this because

03:00:50.280 of Ann Taylor you're

03:00:51.720 right Howard those four

03:00:52.540 people are about to get

03:00:53.320 their names dragged

03:00:54.000 through the mud even

03:00:55.280 more because she

03:00:56.100 irresponsibly threw them

03:00:57.240 out there go ahead

03:00:57.820 Howard and then I'll go

03:00:58.360 to you Matt well I

03:00:59.120 mean as a journalist

03:01:00.040 you don't really move

03:01:01.400 on I mean I listened to

03:01:02.460 proceedings today and I

03:01:04.020 heard one thing one

03:01:05.040 thing that I never heard

03:01:06.040 before that there was a

03:01:07.580 weapon used on Kelly

03:01:09.120 now two two weapons

03:01:11.580 it was a knife and then

03:01:13.740 he had something else in

03:01:14.900 his hand I think the

03:01:16.780 sister said she said

03:01:18.280 what was the second

03:01:19.100 weapon we heard

03:01:20.000 testimony about a

03:01:21.500 vacuum cleaner Dylan

03:01:22.620 had said that a vacuum

03:01:23.620 cleaner she thought she

03:01:24.840 saw a vacuum cleaner in

03:01:25.960 his hand did he bring a

03:01:27.300 vacuum cleaner in did he

03:01:28.340 hit her with a vacuum

03:01:29.380 cleaner savagely beat

03:01:30.720 her the father said her

03:01:32.520 cheekbones were broken

03:01:33.660 is that how he's able to

03:01:35.840 get out without leaving

03:01:36.700 the trail these are

03:01:37.700 questions I as a

03:01:38.900 journalist and I think

03:01:40.120 the Goncalves family too

03:01:41.420 wanted answers and I

03:01:43.600 don't know if we should

03:01:44.380 be moving on after

03:01:45.820 years before I toss it

03:01:48.620 to you Matt I do want

03:01:49.280 to play a soundbite on

03:01:50.060 that Steve Gonzalez

03:01:50.940 spoke to Ashley

03:01:52.660 Banfield and did fill in

03:01:54.460 some of the details

03:01:55.140 around what he'd been

03:01:56.220 told about Kaylee's

03:01:57.940 murder she was on the

03:01:59.740 top floor with Maddie

03:02:00.600 Mogan believed to be

03:02:01.900 this the main target of

03:02:03.220 the attack here it is

03:02:04.400 that one people so

03:02:07.340 angry what was

03:02:08.860 happening in that

03:02:09.500 courtroom that they

03:02:10.240 would literally pick up

03:02:11.060 their phone and call us

03:02:12.040 and say this is what's

03:02:13.840 on Brian's phone this

03:02:15.560 is what he was

03:02:16.200 searching this individual

03:02:18.160 was sexually motivated I

03:02:19.820 don't care what what

03:02:21.140 Thompson said coming out

03:02:23.060 of hearings there would

03:02:23.740 be people who would call

03:02:24.540 you and say I don't like

03:02:26.040 what's happening in that

03:02:26.760 courtroom I know what's

03:02:27.860 on his phone I know what

03:02:29.280 did you learn from those

03:02:30.720 phone calls without

03:02:31.440 divulging who it was who

03:02:32.520 called

03:02:32.840 it's just weird weird

03:02:35.620 porn fetishes but two of

03:02:37.300 the fetishes were in that

03:02:38.700 room drunk passed out

03:02:40.360 girls and gagging girls

03:02:41.840 and those are two things

03:02:43.320 that were part of that

03:02:44.200 crime scene for so for

03:02:45.440 for Thompson to say that

03:02:47.320 there was no sexual

03:02:48.400 assault of course there

03:02:49.840 wasn't he didn't have

03:02:50.840 enough time somebody came

03:02:51.960 up there that was that

03:02:54.920 was additional color but

03:02:55.820 he also did talk about how

03:02:57.180 it was clear Kaylee had

03:02:58.500 been beaten I think that

03:02:59.740 he said her nose had been

03:03:01.240 broken so clearly there

03:03:03.360 had been some sort of a

03:03:04.680 fight some sort of an

03:03:05.460 altercation go ahead Matt

03:03:06.480 well I think that that

03:03:10.200 that hits on exactly what

03:03:11.740 we were discussing last

03:03:13.080 time is the the use of

03:03:14.980 that word that there's no

03:03:16.440 sexual component I think

03:03:17.940 that that was really

03:03:18.680 inappropriate by the DA

03:03:19.780 because you can't get into

03:03:20.880 Cobrager's head and we've

03:03:22.560 heard those rumors

03:03:23.220 consistently that that

03:03:25.060 Mr. Gonsalves was just

03:03:26.120 talking about there that

03:03:27.000 there were porn searches

03:03:28.460 that were found on the

03:03:29.540 computers and phones I can

03:03:30.740 tell you maybe four years

03:03:32.060 in sexual assault and 17 and

03:03:33.320 homicide unless they get

03:03:35.040 rid of the computers

03:03:35.840 there's always porn there's

03:03:38.640 always something on there

03:03:39.940 especially when you're

03:03:40.700 dealing with with people

03:03:41.600 that are motivated by

03:03:42.460 sexual predation so I was I

03:03:45.020 think that was a very poor

03:03:46.320 choice of words by Thompson

03:03:47.480 in the original plea he

03:03:50.240 didn't repeat that again

03:03:51.340 today but look one of the

03:03:53.500 things that he did say you

03:03:54.880 know he talked about we

03:03:55.760 didn't we didn't reduce we

03:03:58.000 didn't reduce the sentences

03:03:59.140 what did he say he said no

03:04:01.560 bargaining about reduced

03:04:02.540 sentences it's like dude you

03:04:04.080 gave him the biggest reduced

03:04:05.740 sentence you came off death

03:04:07.360 I mean I don't I don't know

03:04:09.440 what he was talking about

03:04:10.480 there unless he's referring

03:04:12.260 to this specific counts and

03:04:14.660 and I'm sorry again I don't

03:04:16.040 want to be overly critical

03:04:16.900 here but that's called

03:04:18.300 pleading to the sheet that

03:04:20.000 that's something that

03:04:20.640 happens in every courtroom

03:04:21.800 every day by prosecutors

03:04:23.480 there's nothing heroic about

03:04:24.920 that it's like you want us

03:04:26.100 to come off the biggest

03:04:27.000 potential sentence in a

03:04:28.120 state that might actually

03:04:28.800 execute him of course he's

03:04:30.140 going to plead to the sheet

03:04:31.020 so that that I thought was

03:04:32.880 really that was designed

03:04:34.880 that language I think was

03:04:36.800 designed for the general

03:04:37.740 public because there's a lot

03:04:38.980 of lawyers who practice

03:04:40.820 criminal law I guarantee

03:04:41.880 across America that were

03:04:42.960 kind of rolling their eyes a

03:04:44.120 little bit on that and

03:04:44.880 again guys got a tough job

03:04:46.580 there are advantages

03:04:48.020 certainly to taking a plea

03:04:49.720 my riding alcohol case like

03:04:51.260 we talked about I did the

03:04:53.240 third version of that it was

03:04:54.600 reversed twice he was

03:04:55.780 convicted twice sentenced

03:04:56.880 twice I did the third

03:04:58.880 trial and it was brutal on

03:05:01.140 the families all of that

03:05:02.600 stuff is real but again we

03:05:05.240 talked about this I don't

03:05:06.700 know what changed behind

03:05:07.700 the scenes other than just

03:05:08.800 Kohlberger coming and want

03:05:10.280 to make a deal and it

03:05:11.160 sounds like nothing that's

03:05:12.460 it and Bill Thompson not

03:05:13.980 wanted to try the case I did

03:05:16.100 find the comment that Steve

03:05:17.660 Gonsalves made to to people

03:05:19.420 magazine well sorry people

03:05:22.480 magazine wrote up an

03:05:23.540 interview he gave to the

03:05:24.340 today show where he said he

03:05:26.440 and Christy Gonsalves said

03:05:28.680 the coroner gave the

03:05:29.580 parents a breakdown of the

03:05:31.220 wounds 21 year old Kaylee

03:05:32.860 suffered quote she had

03:05:34.560 definitely been stabbed

03:05:35.600 multiple times and they

03:05:37.420 kind of described it as a

03:05:38.800 drowning that can occur but

03:05:41.120 she did say gagging

03:05:42.960 Kohlberger struck her in the

03:05:44.940 face Christy Gonsalves added

03:05:47.160 Kaylee had a broken nose

03:05:49.220 septal hematomas asphyxial

03:05:52.020 injuries and defense wounds on

03:05:54.020 her arms she was stabbed

03:05:55.680 many many times how many we

03:05:57.780 don't know and that's where

03:05:58.720 you come in Howard where

03:05:59.680 you're saying Steve

03:06:00.420 Gonsalves asked you if you

03:06:02.520 could find out that he's

03:06:03.700 relying on you they're still

03:06:05.800 trying to find things out and

03:06:07.280 today they revealed for the

03:06:08.560 first time at least that there

03:06:10.260 was perhaps something else in

03:06:11.740 the hands they used to beat

03:06:13.460 Kaylee I'd like to hear more

03:06:15.640 about that but instead we've

03:06:17.040 been told it's time to move

03:06:18.220 on I think here's the thinking

03:06:20.540 here's the sister Olivia in a

03:06:23.760 series of questions she posed to

03:06:25.220 Brian Kohlberger directly

03:06:26.540 raising some of these points

03:06:28.540 some of these might be

03:06:31.060 familiar so sit up straight

03:06:32.720 when I talk to you how was

03:06:35.800 your life right before you

03:06:37.320 murdered my sisters did you

03:06:40.620 prepare for the crime before

03:06:41.960 leaving your apartment please

03:06:43.880 detail what you were thinking

03:06:45.140 and feeling at this time why did

03:06:49.160 you choose my sisters before

03:06:52.120 making your move did you

03:06:54.540 approach my sisters detail what

03:06:56.960 you were thinking and feeling

03:06:57.980 before leaving their home is

03:07:00.940 there anything else you did where

03:07:03.360 is the murder weapon the clothes

03:07:05.720 you wore that night what did you

03:07:09.560 bring into the house with you what

03:07:12.620 was the second weapon you used on

03:07:14.440 Kaylee what were Kaylee's last

03:07:17.900 words if you were really smart do

03:07:20.440 you think you'd be here right

03:07:21.360 now what's it like needing this

03:07:24.860 much attention just to feel real

03:07:27.280 oh I mean as someone who's put

03:07:31.700 these psychopaths in jail Matt how

03:07:34.460 do you think that made him feel

03:07:35.680 well look every family member

03:07:39.180 Megan winds up landing anybody that

03:07:41.900 goes through something like this

03:07:42.860 they initially land somewhere on a

03:07:44.920 spectrum between just supreme grief

03:07:47.360 and supreme anger and a lot of them

03:07:49.100 will will sort of change on that on

03:07:51.560 that scale over the course of the

03:07:53.080 proceedings in the course of time

03:07:54.320 I actually really thought that was

03:07:58.520 incredibly powerful for her to do

03:08:00.640 that and I think that's the purpose

03:08:02.100 of a victim impact statement

03:08:03.160 because that young woman Olivia will

03:08:05.100 be able to go through the rest of

03:08:06.280 life or less for life knowing that he

03:08:09.240 had to sit there and listen and

03:08:10.780 again when we're talking about the

03:08:12.860 psychopath they have no capacity

03:08:14.620 for empathy but their narcissism is off

03:08:17.220 the charts so to have a as you pointed

03:08:20.220 out Megan a very attractive young

03:08:22.260 woman Olivia speak to him like that in a

03:08:25.900 in a setting where he had to sit and

03:08:27.340 listen to him that stung because that

03:08:29.740 that will impact his sense of

03:08:32.560 grandiosity and she really just laid

03:08:34.940 him and laid him low I mean I was

03:08:37.200 cheering for her she was doing that

03:08:40.260 taking notes that was awesome and I

03:08:43.020 think that if he if there's anything

03:08:44.880 when he gets on that bus to go to

03:08:46.440 whatever prison they send him to

03:08:47.880 that's going to be echoing around in

03:08:49.600 his mind it's going to be the words

03:08:51.220 of Olivia Gonzalez I have to say I

03:08:53.880 thought it was a courageous act too

03:08:55.820 because he is a quadruple murderer and

03:08:59.400 I mean I just can't continue to think

03:09:01.540 back to his first question when he got

03:09:03.420 arrested which was is anyone else in

03:09:06.020 custody and so you know there is at

03:09:08.380 least a question mark lingering over

03:09:11.220 the case about whether somebody helped

03:09:13.200 him in some way and I just thought

03:09:15.780 that's very brave of her to be so

03:09:17.980 provocative and antagonistic toward who

03:09:20.680 we know is a man who's a quadruple

03:09:23.380 murderer and has zero empathy and she's

03:09:25.400 a young woman I mean that the piece of

03:09:27.760 it her her testimonial is the one that

03:09:30.340 everybody's going to remember it was

03:09:31.400 extraordinary but it was important also

03:09:34.320 to have the full panoply of emotion

03:09:36.080 filled because we also saw what this

03:09:40.080 thing did to for example Dylan Mortensen

03:09:44.840 I mean Dylan's so interesting she's one

03:09:46.980 of the two surviving roommates there was

03:09:49.020 Bethany who was in the basement who

03:09:50.280 didn't hear a thing and then there was

03:09:52.540 Dylan and Dylan showed up and spoke her

03:09:56.740 statement herself and she's been at the

03:09:58.900 center of the storm since these murders

03:10:00.300 happened because she saw him he got into

03:10:04.120 that house we believe around 4 12 a.m. he

03:10:06.360 left within 12 to 18 minutes at most

03:10:08.880 later and he upon leaving past Dylan

03:10:13.780 Mortensen in the hallway she didn't know

03:10:16.340 what she was seeing she's the one who

03:10:17.940 described him as wearing some sort of

03:10:19.900 like a balaclava or a mask with bushy

03:10:22.260 eyebrows Howard pointing out she later

03:10:24.980 Vicki Ward reported that she she believed

03:10:28.120 Dylan did he was holding some sort of a

03:10:29.760 vacuum cleaner upon exiting we've never

03:10:32.480 heard her we've never she hasn't given an

03:10:35.020 interview we haven't heard anything

03:10:36.420 from her she shows up today and that

03:10:39.140 woman's anguish was palpable it was a

03:10:44.520 reminder that he took four lives but in

03:10:48.280 some ways he ruined far more than four I'm

03:10:52.000 just gonna play a soundbite from her and

03:10:53.380 then you can take it Phil here's part of

03:10:55.400 the Dylan Mortensen impact statement

03:10:57.240 montage it's top 21 my nervous system never

03:11:01.700 got the message that it is over and it

03:11:04.460 won't let me forget what he did to them

03:11:06.200 he is a hollow vessel something less than

03:11:09.420 human a body without empathy without

03:11:13.460 remorse he chose destruction he chose

03:11:18.780 evil he may have taken so much from me but

03:11:21.720 he will never get to take my voice he will

03:11:27.060 never take the memories I had with them

03:11:29.400 he will never erase the love we shared the

03:11:34.620 laughs we had or the way they made me feel

03:11:37.080 seen and whole those things are mine

03:11:39.420 they are sacred and he will never touch

03:11:42.880 them

03:11:43.200 oh both both she and the other roommate

03:11:47.140 Phil testifying that for a year after this

03:11:49.640 happened they had to sleep in the bed with

03:11:52.080 their parents

03:11:52.780 you know it to take someone's life

03:11:58.100 obviously is one of the worst things that

03:12:00.640 you could ever do to someone but I think

03:12:02.480 you could make the argument that doing to

03:12:05.080 her what Koberger did to her it may be even

03:12:09.000 worse because the people who have passed

03:12:12.020 away they're not hurting or suffering in a

03:12:14.480 physical sense anymore but she is and she's

03:12:16.560 got to carry that with her for the rest of her

03:12:18.820 natural life and those of us who are parents

03:12:20.920 like in my case of a soon-to-be college-age

03:12:24.000 child you know this is the worst nightmare

03:12:27.420 for for any parent you want what's best for

03:12:29.900 your family you want what's best for your

03:12:32.000 kids you want your kids to go out into the

03:12:33.800 world and succeed and to to be happy and

03:12:37.920 that's the most important thing you want your

03:12:39.440 kids to be happy but there's no amount of

03:12:41.360 counseling or no therapy that can ever help

03:12:45.020 undo what Koberger did to her and to make her

03:12:48.880 happy and so you know that's this all goes

03:12:53.400 back to part of the problem that I have with

03:12:55.700 this plea deal in the first place we're just

03:12:58.100 left with so many questions that might help

03:13:02.040 some of these people move forward and at least

03:13:04.500 maybe a little bit more satisfactory fashion the

03:13:07.560 prosecutor had every reason I think to to go

03:13:11.680 forward with the trial not all the questions

03:13:14.380 would have been answered but a lot of them

03:13:15.740 would we would we would not be talking like

03:13:17.840 how many stab wounds or was he carrying a

03:13:22.080 vacuum cleaner we would know the answers to

03:13:25.440 a lot of this if there had been a trial and

03:13:28.420 maybe in the weeks and months and years to

03:13:30.780 come the maybe the families will be provided

03:13:34.000 with the evidence that they didn't see at the

03:13:36.940 trial that didn't happen and maybe they'll be

03:13:39.560 able to provide it to the public maybe

03:13:41.520 journalists will be able to get their hands

03:13:44.260 on some of this stuff now that the gag order

03:13:46.240 has been released but remember it's still all

03:13:48.500 in the possession custody and control of the

03:13:51.200 prosecution and it's really going to be up

03:13:54.540 to them how to to get this information out

03:13:58.360 into the public if they're willing to do it

03:14:00.380 at all and I think they probably have some

03:14:03.200 things that they just to protect themselves

03:14:06.520 they don't want the the public to find out about

03:14:08.920 I think that there was some hesitancy about the

03:14:13.840 prosecution I'll just that's the nicest word I

03:14:16.500 can think of right now some hesitancy to move

03:14:18.720 forward with the trial I don't know if it's they

03:14:20.720 didn't feel they were capable or they were

03:14:22.380 somehow scared of going to trial but they

03:14:25.580 certainly seemed to jump on Coburger's Coburger's

03:14:29.700 really the one that made the offer say look I'll plead

03:14:31.720 guilty if you take death off the table and it's

03:14:34.120 almost like Coburger's team is making the plea

03:14:36.680 offer and the prosecutor accepting his

03:14:38.660 terms and so yeah they jump at that pretty quickly

03:14:42.160 yeah they act like they're the ones that made

03:14:44.280 some kind of plea deal I see it the other way

03:14:46.480 around I see Coburger made the plea deal and

03:14:48.580 the prosecutor accepted that you're so right go

03:14:51.700 ahead Howard that's exactly right I mean and

03:14:55.180 then for the prosecution for Bill Thompson to

03:14:58.840 talk about we will move on the door is closed the

03:15:02.720 judge said that well we all heard Dylan Morton's

03:15:05.960 statements no one is moving on this is going to

03:15:08.960 linger forever and only thing that's going to

03:15:11.620 happen is the possibility of getting answers to

03:15:14.800 specific questions well that's going to be a lot

03:15:18.300 harder now I think the families and the citizens of

03:15:23.300 Idaho and the public are have been disserved by what was

03:15:29.440 done in the courtroom today now was the time you know it's

03:15:33.360 creepy in the in the movie that I keep referencing one night

03:15:36.140 in Idaho they have a very interesting segment with the

03:15:39.080 women who ran one of these public chat groups about the

03:15:42.320 murders these two women run multiple true crime blogs and

03:15:46.400 they added this one after the murders and this was the forum

03:15:49.720 into which Papa Roger appeared posting his theories about

03:15:53.340 the crime it's clearly Brian Kohlberger and they walk you

03:15:56.540 through his posts which really kind of gave up the game first

03:15:59.880 of all the photo like the sort of icon that's used to

03:16:03.660 represent Papa Roger looks just like Brian Kohlberger I mean

03:16:06.420 identical and second of all his posts know way more than any

03:16:11.080 civilian who didn't commit this crime should have known long

03:16:14.420 prior to the release of that police affidavit which had the

03:16:16.820 details of the crime I mean he was already speculation speculating

03:16:19.500 about he knew it was a knife he he speculated that they found the

03:16:23.420 knife sheath he asked some of those same weird questions that he

03:16:26.500 asked in that questionnaire he wanted to know what do you think

03:16:29.540 was in the mind of the killer when he walked into the room they

03:16:31.900 were like it was more than I'd ever heard from the Papa Roger

03:16:34.680 account as these two women who ran it went through his

03:16:38.500 questioning and then as soon as Brian Kohlberger was arrested dried

03:16:42.480 up Papa Roger never posted again which tells me he wants attention he

03:16:49.600 loves reveling in the crime Matt he seems to have been getting off on

03:16:55.620 it because at that point he was getting away with the crime so why

03:16:59.500 would a killer like this would as of then gotten away with it be so

03:17:03.900 provocative to be making these posts in a public online crime forum

03:17:08.680 well we've that goes back to Jack the Ripper right Megan it's like

03:17:14.600 there was he would that person wrote to the police and they they think

03:17:20.840 that those letters came from the actual killer we saw that in the

03:17:23.720 Zodiac killer too that's that speaks to the narcissism the arrogance and

03:17:28.240 the grandiosity of the great American psychopath or even you know outside of

03:17:33.320 America it's the it's the mindset of these guys and oh it's like I'm

03:17:37.480 thinking of the thumbs up photo after the murders Matt you know as you say the

03:17:40.460 grandiosity it's it's his selfie with the thumbs up like yeah he's

03:17:44.180 celebrating himself keep going or yeah it looks like a vampire in that too and

03:17:49.120 and and look Megan that photo there there's a very common thing and and

03:17:53.960 it's and it comes from a good place I think with most people but when they're

03:17:57.440 considering death versus life in prison one of the things you hear very

03:18:00.840 commonly is people will go well the worst thing I can imagine is if I was in

03:18:05.060 a cell and I had to think about what I did every single day that's imposing

03:18:09.420 humanity onto the mind of the psychopath they don't think that way it's a

03:18:14.860 mistake it comes it it comes from it's almost like psychological projection we

03:18:20.180 think about ourselves and we think about how we have the capacity for guilt they

03:18:24.580 don't think that way and the arrogance of posting stuff to an online chat room I

03:18:29.000 mean it's just it's a modern version of the same thing and they these guys I I

03:18:35.420 hate to say it but they don't they just don't experience remorse like other

03:18:39.380 people and that's why I loved I really love the comments of Olivia today because

03:18:45.660 that kind of stuff is biting that kind of stuff Matt that was the other thing she

03:18:49.860 got to she said so Jack the Ripper was never caught but Brian Kohlberger was

03:18:54.520 caught and she got on him like how are you so stupid like mockingly like did you

03:19:01.740 really think you're gonna be able to cover up your Amazon purchase of the

03:19:05.160 knife by using a gift card it was so diminishing look I love that I love that

03:19:12.700 I loved her you're basic you're nothing you're she went she read everything that

03:19:18.120 she hid her hands on written by Brian Kohlberger that is a very intelligent woman

03:19:22.280 who wanted she wanted to sting him and she did I guarantee that stuff hurt today okay

03:19:28.900 now speaking of stinging there speaking my friend Ashley Banfield she had on a

03:19:36.460 guy his name is Larry Levine and he's a former federal inmate and prison

03:19:41.200 consultant and he's literally written the book that people read when they get

03:19:44.740 sentenced to prison unlike how to deal with prison so she had him on not long

03:19:49.340 ago and asked him some questions about what what's gonna happen now to Brian

03:19:53.640 Kohlberger this is after understanding he was pleading guilty and listen here to

03:19:57.480 Sat 16 remember that these people in there none of them well I shouldn't say

03:20:02.320 none of them a great deal of them are not mentally stable anyway so that's highly

03:20:08.060 possible maybe somebody will shove him or something that is part of jailhouse

03:20:12.880 justice I've seen people get stuck before I've been in three different prison

03:20:17.040 riots so I've seen all this shit but I predict within a year or less that he's

03:20:24.180 either going to be dead or he's going to be physically injured in some way then

03:20:28.760 they'll transport him take him to a real hospital and they'll let him stay there

03:20:33.560 and get well and all this bullshit finally they'll move him back over to the prison

03:20:38.700 back to Boise and he'll be in protective custody for the rest of his life because

03:20:45.440 they won't be able to put him in general population and Matt you've been saying he's

03:20:51.380 going to go to special custody right for right away do you do we know that

03:20:54.780 I guarantee they're gonna they're gonna put him in it's called PC or they're gonna

03:21:00.020 make him a total step or a total separation that's I guarantee he's he's been in

03:21:04.680 that in that status almost certainly the entire time since his arrest because of

03:21:08.900 the notoriety of the case it'll only increase today but you know what a sad

03:21:14.860 statement of the American system of justice when we're all here and we are

03:21:19.960 hoping that not not that we're hoping for it but that people are calling for

03:21:25.120 prisoners like we need dirtbag inmates to to achieve justice in a case like this

03:21:30.720 it's just it speaks to that unsatisfied feeling you were talking about earlier I

03:21:34.680 think that a lot of people across America are cheering for dirtbag prisoners to

03:21:39.740 carry out what the American justice system couldn't and back to Philip's

03:21:43.940 point you know the the idea that the DA kind of blanked on this that he he

03:21:50.300 accepted Koberger's terms and I just don't see any other way of looking at it

03:21:55.500 because it sounds like that is exactly what happened go ahead let me just

03:21:59.560 disagree a little bit I think the prison system has a responsibility to protect

03:22:04.880 him I I think that that should be enforced and it would be it would be an

03:22:09.940 American tragedy if you were killed in prison I think that's not the way

03:22:12.880 America works Howard amazing no and I don't disagree it's my dear liberal friend

03:22:17.360 I'm not I'm not calling for it well I certainly wouldn't be crying any tears I

03:22:21.580 would not cry one tear to hear I actually would like to see him suffer for a

03:22:25.460 little while before they take care of him but I don't know in this matter I

03:22:28.640 feel I feel like those prisoners those fellow prisoners to him are our allies I'm

03:22:33.500 willing to look the other way I just he shouldn't continue breathing our air I

03:22:36.820 don't really care about the explanation at this point Phil I want him gone I

03:22:40.260 feel like the state fell down on the job if prison justice has to do it

03:22:43.680 nobody cried when you know Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison I mean you know

03:22:50.260 things like that but the the the state does have a legal obligation to at least do

03:22:57.020 their best to protect those in their custody such as prisoners they don't always do

03:23:02.960 such a good job at it and you know these letting men in women's prisons yeah well

03:23:08.140 you never know what's going to happen but the thing that about his being in

03:23:12.280 custody for life is look over time whether it's a year or two years three years from

03:23:18.160 now over time the the guard will let will get let down he's going to become more in

03:23:24.680 the rearview mirror and not so much of you know today's prisoner celebrity kind of

03:23:29.460 thing and so over time he's going to be exposed to many different opportunities

03:23:34.200 for things to happen either at the hands of other third parties or at the hands of

03:23:38.680 himself and you just you just never know he's not going to be well liked by other

03:23:45.700 prisoners he's going to be in that category of inmates that really do need to be

03:23:50.080 looking over their shoulder for their own safety and he better hope for his sake that

03:23:54.340 he is in protective custody and he better hope that it's sufficient protective custody

03:23:59.520 and that there's no gaps in it because he's going to be universally hated by the rank and

03:24:04.880 file inmate people that are in there for you know let's just maybe theft offenses

03:24:09.520 property crimes not necessarily you know limited to just violent prisoners he's going to be exposed

03:24:18.100 potentially to all different manner of people that are just in there for short sentences and some

03:24:23.620 are in there for life and some people in prison have nothing to lose either and so he's got a lot

03:24:29.780 of things that he needs to be concerned about it's a long way from that selfie that we saw where

03:24:35.940 it's just disgusting to me because it's right after apparently the murders it looks like he's

03:24:40.740 standing in front of a shower maybe he's just cleaned himself up and he's giving this thumbs up

03:24:45.380 like hey i'm very proud of myself i'm proud of of that i just achieved my mission i think he was

03:24:51.560 trying to duplicate um you know maybe a jeff uh ted bundy or uh some other serial killer and he's very

03:24:59.080 proud of himself in that picture right there but uh he he's got a a different road in front of him

03:25:06.020 moving forward megan he's got a lot to be concerned about here's a little bit more from this larry levine

03:25:10.800 who's got some interesting takes on it all right here's here is one sought 19

03:25:18.400 i remember something you once told me uh that almost everybody cries

03:25:25.040 they do because the whole realization has hit them people lay awake and they can't sleep and

03:25:33.200 every little noise and the pipes in the wall everything freaks them out and then you know this

03:25:41.200 is an old prison in uh idaho maybe there's rats in the walls maybe he'll get a little pet or something

03:25:48.320 then he's gonna hear the other inmates are gonna be assholes banging on the wall they will they're

03:25:54.080 gonna bang on the wall they're gonna fuck with him and they're tell they're gonna tell him they're

03:25:57.920 gonna kill him it doesn't matter how tough you are and he's got no hope that's what a lot of people

03:26:05.840 they live to see their families they know they're all getting out so a person serving a life sentence

03:26:12.080 their first night in there it just completely fucks with their head you know maybe he'll try to kill

03:26:18.560 himself i'm starting to feel better i don't know howard um he he wasn't he already asking when he got

03:26:26.080 arrested for like vegan vegan menu and like the proper cooking utensils that hadn't touched meat

03:26:32.240 it was kind of crazy when he first got arrested memory serves yes and he was also asking if he

03:26:36.240 could have a coffee date with the officer who arrested him i mean he was sort of cut off from

03:26:41.040 reality he thinks he thought this was all somehow going to work out uh yeah and he's about to learn

03:26:48.560 the hard way will he be able to have people interview him in prison we'll actually suppose katherine

03:26:54.240 ramson wanted to visit him would she be allowed i'm not sure that's even allowed in maximum custody

03:27:01.520 well here here's what um brian enton of news nation tweeted out he he posted coleberger will likely have

03:27:07.440 his own tablet in prison like like an ipad with music email and movies in his prison cell also he can buy

03:27:17.440 his own tv to keep in his cell this is why people favor the death penalty because we don't want to see

03:27:24.000 them phil sitting there watching probably one night in idaho reliving it for good time's sake in his case

03:27:33.520 as opposed to standing in front of the firing squad yeah he's going to be re-watching all his uh

03:27:39.520 court appearances and and reliving his glory days but look here's a question that that i've got maybe for

03:27:45.600 the rest of you the megan and the rest of the panel and for those watching is there a possibility

03:27:51.920 now that president trump has weighed in on this case that maybe the federal government brings some

03:27:56.160 charges because you know it's it's possible there's concurrent jurisdiction there's no such

03:28:01.120 thing as double jeopardy um vis-a-vis the federal and the state system and if the justice department

03:28:07.040 were to try to pick up this case the federal death penalty could potentially be on the table and he

03:28:12.400 could have a whole new set of problems to be dealing with so look this today this sentencing

03:28:18.960 hearing is over this idaho case is over but this saga is not over and i just wonder uh if there's not

03:28:27.040 going to be some uh just say thought given at the federal level to bring in some kind of federal charges

03:28:33.440 because in the federal system the death penalty is it's real it applies and the justice department knows

03:28:39.760 how to use it here here was the president's tweet just i think two days ago colbert brian coleberger

03:28:45.280 who was responsible in idaho for the deaths of four wonderful young souls has made a plea bargain deal

03:28:49.760 in order to avoid the death penalty these were vicious murders with so many questions left in

03:28:54.320 unanswered while life imprisonment is tough it's certainly better than receiving the death penalty

03:28:59.200 but before sentencing i hope the judge makes coleberger at a minimum explain why he did

03:29:04.960 these horrible murders there are no explanations there is no nothing people were shocked that he

03:29:10.000 was able to plea bargain but the judge should make him explain what happened thank you for your

03:29:14.480 attention to this matter the judge pointing out today he didn't have that ability but matt you

03:29:18.960 pointed out last time we were together the da did i'll give you the floor in one second i want to

03:29:24.000 say this my information is that thanks to doge the doj right now is severely undermanned um you can it

03:29:31.200 doge is not like usa id where you cancel the grant and you cancel the person overseeing it and you're

03:29:36.400 fine when you fire something like 240 lawyers from doj the cases they were on do not go away they now get

03:29:44.160 dumped on other lawyers who are at doj so my info over there is that a lot of lawyers are really stretched

03:29:50.640 thin they need to hire good lawyers over there hello my friends on screen left you do phil i know you're

03:29:57.840 busy with the new mk media show but you should do it you too matt you you recently left the

03:30:02.320 prosecutor's office anyway i don't think they have the manpower to go after a case that's already

03:30:07.600 wrapped up but your thoughts on it matt well they they could they certainly could we're talking about

03:30:13.920 the resource of the federal government the problem is would they and then what effect would that

03:30:18.080 ultimately have and philip's right they they i i don't know if it's called dual jurisdiction i don't

03:30:24.080 know if there is a if there necessarily is a federal um way into this uh it wasn't on a military base i

03:30:31.040 don't know if there'd be any federal jurisdiction because there's a college campus i don't know if

03:30:34.560 they would necessarily have jurisdiction but the problem there megan um is we just saw uh the the

03:30:40.800 midnight pardons and commutations by joe biden were i think they they uh commuted uh 37 of 42 federal

03:30:49.520 death penalty cases i think was the was the number um they the vast majority on his way out the door

03:30:56.400 of federal death penalty sentences were commuted to life in prison so even if we did get one federally

03:31:03.120 you know i mean megan you cover this you cover national politics uh you know that's a 40 years is

03:31:09.280 a long time for there to be a president as we almost saw last time that's hostile to the death penalty

03:31:14.800 hostile to life without parole who would likely commute that long before it was carried out um

03:31:20.320 i'd like to correct your statement the auto pen was hostile to the death penalty

03:31:24.640 and the auto pen decided to get rid of it in many cases whoever was turning it on right i want to

03:31:30.480 play the following because we did not on amazon he went on amazon and to to make purchases and so i

03:31:36.560 think there's a there could be a federal hook here uh and he left the state of idaho and further it

03:31:42.080 so yeah he crossed state lines desires to to cover i think you're looking at it in a too legalistic way

03:31:47.680 i think if the president believes a great number of the american people still want answers

03:31:54.400 i think he will somehow move things so that there will be things will move forward in the courts

03:31:59.920 i i think you know philip philip just hit the nail on the head sorry i didn't mean to step on you

03:32:04.160 howard uh he philip's absolutely right he crossed state lines that's the hook they could do it if they

03:32:08.880 want that does give the feds jurisdiction if they wanted to pursue death um i don't know how the

03:32:15.600 families would feel about going through that entire process but they would be walking with the backstop

03:32:19.600 it's a very interesting idea wow okay so that we possibly we've plowed new ground here i wanted to

03:32:27.120 play this just because um that we we listened to this whole thing together and we heard from maddie's

03:32:31.760 family we heard from kaylee's family we heard from zanna's family but we heard nothing from ethan

03:32:36.080 chapin's family and there was a reason for that his parents did cooperate with the one night in

03:32:41.040 idaho documentary his mother who i mentioned earlier stacy an incredible woman i mean i don't

03:32:46.480 i've never met her but boy i was very impressed by her and here's what she said in episode three of

03:32:51.440 that four episode series sat 11 sitting in a courtroom this doesn't feel right why would i go sit in a

03:32:59.360 courtroom with that person have you attended any of the hearings no no i will not we won't we won't

03:33:06.080 attend any of the hearings what's the purpose definitely not the trial no no i don't have a

03:33:12.800 need to go look him in the eyes or i don't it is what it is we cannot change the outcome on this thing

03:33:22.640 we cannot bring it back she's she's certainly right about that she's got a very strong head

03:33:30.080 on her shoulders maddie's mom karen is a is a real tearjerker in this series because she looks

03:33:37.120 just like her daughter first of all and second of all she she talks about how she raised maddie and how

03:33:44.720 you know when maddie cried in the crib she went and got her like she she was always like sort of the

03:33:50.480 and i mean this sweetly like the sucker of a mom like i i can't take it i can't take her upset you

03:33:55.520 know life's too short i need to help her with her distress and by all accounts maddie turned out

03:34:00.160 amazingly and turned into just an absolutely wonderful young woman and so you can see this

03:34:05.600 mother's just acute pain talking about getting the news and dealing with the news and here's just a bit

03:34:14.960 of her talking about that yellow sweatshirt that's in that photo of the six of them the very photo

03:34:22.080 that the sentencing proceeding today ended on and and the photo we've come to know so well that really

03:34:28.560 encapsulates their friendship and the love and the vibrance and here's maddie's mom karen talking

03:34:34.080 about it suck 12. we didn't honestly get a lot back just to be you didn't you didn't want it back or you

03:34:42.960 just wasn't able to come back so the stuff that was able to come back i went through and like oh some

03:34:50.160 of this is silly some of this is very sentimental like i still have the yellow sweater that she was

03:34:54.720 wearing that day the sleeves are still rolled up

03:35:03.760 so i found this sweatshirt when we went down it was the first family weekend

03:35:08.400 and maddie really wanted this sweatshirt and it wasn't her size we couldn't find it

03:35:14.640 and i found it like a total different place and when i found it i was like scott look we found the

03:35:20.160 sweater and then i'm on video with her and she's cutting it i'm like we were on facetime i'm like

03:35:31.280 what are you doing she's like this is how everything is worn mom i'm like okay i gotta get used to this

03:35:37.840 i gotta let it be but yes super glad we got that back oh my god you guys you look at it it's a there's

03:35:48.880 this sweatshirt with no girl in it and no girl will ever be in it named kaylee gonsalves because

03:35:54.640 of what that monster did those moments really bring it back to what this case is all about

03:36:00.320 those four wonderful lives lost for no reason i i don't know my own take up away on this story and

03:36:09.760 this crime is it's so basic but it's hug your kids hug your loved ones remember that no tomorrow's

03:36:16.960 promised don't assume you have the time you might not you have to tell everybody you love that you

03:36:23.280 love them you have to tell the friends that you have that you value them you have to go outside and

03:36:28.240 look at the sky or look at the ocean and think i'm here on borrowed time i'm a renter not an owner

03:36:34.160 i have to treat the things around me and the people around me respectfully like a like a renter should

03:36:39.200 and make sure make sure that you're connected you know that you're not spending too much time

03:36:43.440 working and not enough time loving and having experiences with those who mean something to you

03:36:49.840 it's the only comfort we have when something horrific happens and the only comfort those

03:36:54.880 parents have who were close to their kids by all accounts i mean especially in the case of the

03:36:59.280 chapins and and maddie and kaylee i don't know the i don't know zanna's family as well but my god

03:37:04.560 what a day you guys are i value you truly and sincerely all three of you have helped us get

03:37:10.400 through this case and um especially you howard thank you for everything and um we'll continue it

03:37:15.760 on with many other cases to come thanks guys for being here today always a pleasure

03:37:23.440 all the best guys wow and thanks to all of you for listening this is a this is an emotional one i

03:37:28.560 wonder how you're feeling i'd love to know how you're feeling actually helps me sometimes to read

03:37:33.120 the emails i don't know i'm kind of like emotional it's um it's my son's 12th birthday you know and

03:37:41.680 you just they're growing up too fast and they're moving on they're moving on you know to new stages

03:37:46.560 of life where they're a little less dependent on you and that's a beautiful thing and it's a necessary

03:37:51.440 thing but man you there's such perspective setters they're what matters that is in the end all that

03:37:59.520 matters you know and i love my job as you guys know i love doing the news but my god you know

03:38:04.080 your family that's they're everything that's everything so hug your loved ones hug them dearly

03:38:10.160 and tightly today happy birthday thatcher and um we'll all get together tomorrow on a less heavy

03:38:18.960 news day though things are really breaking today on the tulsi doc tulsi gabbard documents we'll have

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The Megyn Kelly Show - July 23, 2025

Bryan Kohberger's Explosive Sentencing： Roommates Speak Out, Families Give Victim Statements, with Howard Blum, Phil Holloway, and Matt Murphy ｜ Ep. 1114

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