The Megyn Kelly Show - Budweiser's Permanently Tarnished Brand, DeSantis' Furry Battle, and Following the Culture War Money, with Adam Curry

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.940 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.280 A pitcher for the L.A. Dodgers openly criticizes the team for planning to host and give an award to an anti-Catholic hate group, and he does not hold back.

00:00:25.240 This, as some in the media say, Governor Ron DeSantis is far, far more dangerous than former President Trump, and that President Trump is more dangerous than President Trump.

00:00:35.900 At least the 2016 version. And maybe, just maybe, according to our media, John Bolton can save us all?

00:00:44.380 Joining me now to discuss it all is Adam Curry, better known as the Podfather and co-host of the No Agenda podcast.

00:00:52.220 Adam, great to have you again. How are you doing?

00:00:53.880 Oh, Megyn, it's so good to be back, and I'm surprised that no one got fired today.

00:00:58.260 Usually when I'm scheduled, it's like Sharon gets fired from her show, or Tucker gets thrown off the Fox.

00:01:07.440 You're like the Grim Reaper of media personalities. Every time we schedule you, someone big gets the axe.

00:01:13.580 Yeah, yeah, it just happened. I used to have that with Duran Duran all the time.

00:01:16.900 Whenever I would be there to introduce them at a concert, either it would get rained out, their plane couldn't take off, Simon was sick,

00:01:23.520 and whenever they saw me, they'd be like, oh, no, not Curry. No, no, no, no. What's going to go wrong?

00:01:28.400 Well, you know, the day is long, so we'll see whether Joy Reid makes it.

00:01:32.280 We believe she's the next to go here at the Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:35.580 All right, let's kick it off with Target, because I think this is fascinating.

00:01:38.500 I mean, the boycott, the pain that's being delved out to them, it's working. It's working, and how?

00:01:44.140 My God, their numbers are terrible. Here's the latest via the New York Post as of this morning.

00:01:48.500 Target's stock has dropped. It's lost $12.7 billion over the past two weeks. Holy schmoly.

00:01:56.140 $12.7 billion over the past two weeks. It is their longest losing streak since November of 2018.

00:02:05.760 It is clearly in response to their pride display. And just to be clear, there are pride displays at

00:02:12.760 stores all over the country going into June, as there have been for years. It's what they've done

00:02:18.680 in their pride display that has made them a target, pardon the pun, with the trans stuff and the

00:02:26.120 trans stuff for children, and in particular, the trans stuff for women's bathing suits with the

00:02:32.340 extra material where you can tuck it. I mean, it is like Americans are very tolerant, but they have

00:02:38.600 pushed us too far. We saw that with Bud Light, and I've got updated figures on them as well,

00:02:43.300 or as Michael Knowles calls them, Transheiser Bush. Love.

00:02:46.980 I heard that. That was pretty funny.

00:02:48.680 Um, but this target thing is real, and they've got to be feeling the pain. What do you make of it?

00:02:54.420 Well, um, what's interesting about this, and also about Bud Light, is that once there was pushback,

00:03:00.940 when they did not stand up and push back against the, you know, the, the, the activists,

00:03:07.460 um, all of a sudden, the so-called LGBTQ community is now saying, you know what,

00:03:12.460 we're not going to support you either. So they're in a lose-lose situation.

00:03:16.360 What is interesting to me, and I, I'm always looking at, you know, what is the root of this?

00:03:22.940 And this is, it always comes down to money, and you're mentioning Wall Street figures, you're

00:03:27.040 looking at, uh, market capitalization. Um, all of this stems from literally Wall Street. It comes

00:03:33.360 from, uh, uh, I would say the genesis is BlackRock, who are just an incredibly large financial

00:03:39.660 institution, $10 trillion in assets. Larry Fink, uh, really reigns the scepter there, but there's

00:03:45.540 a lot of people involved in that. They even actually run money for the U.S. Treasury, and they

00:03:50.660 started, um, the ESG, uh, movement, or the ESG, I would almost call it regulations, environmental

00:03:57.000 social governance, um, which, of course, beget the DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion,

00:04:03.460 and that now has led to the CEI score, which literally forces every single, uh, certainly

00:04:09.680 public company into a situation where they have to do certain things in order to be even

00:04:15.200 investable. And from, in my mind, I mean, I know that, uh, Wall Street money guys, they

00:04:21.620 don't care if the stock is going up or down. They can make money either way, as long as they

00:04:26.940 know in advance which way it's going. So this is, you know, for a love of money is the root of all

00:04:32.860 evil. This is truly coming from the big, big money, the, the almost invisible people behind the scenes

00:04:39.260 who, um, I think have, have started this, have perpetuated this. Uh, they love it. You know,

00:04:45.480 they love knowing that it's going down. They'll make money and, uh, there will be a moment. There'll

00:04:49.740 be, uh, uh, probably, uh, a change of CEO. The target CEO is kind of an interesting guy by himself.

00:04:55.920 You know, he's, uh, he's been in all kinds of companies and has not done incredibly well in some

00:05:01.820 of them. So they'll fire someone and then the stock will start to rise. They'll remove whatever

00:05:07.500 they need to do. It's all a game. I think we're all being played and we're getting really, really

00:05:12.580 spun up over it. And this is across the board. This is in all areas where, um, you know, it, I hate to

00:05:20.560 see how we're now being pit against each other. Um, everyone's broken in one way or the other,

00:05:26.620 you know, and some may be more broken in the eyes of others, but it's being taken advantage of, uh,

00:05:31.980 by wall street and they have their own. And I say wall street just as a collective, uh, but for their

00:05:36.920 own initiatives. And of course that gives politicians, uh, a reason to jump in and use this.

00:05:42.700 And the American media model, if you will, is always pitting, you know, two sides against each

00:05:49.020 other, red against blue, left against right. Um, that's what cable news, I mean, cable news is so

00:05:54.080 broken that they don't even have money to do news. They just play clips of the other guy,

00:05:58.440 you know, it's the whole, and then politicians jump in and take advantage of that. The whole thing

00:06:03.480 is very, very, very troubling. And honestly, disgusting where we're arguing against our own

00:06:09.580 people. And again, I'm broken. I, you know, I think everyone's broken in some way. There's some

00:06:14.540 that, you know, if you look at the trans movement, uh, I think there's a lot of breakage there and we

00:06:19.800 have to start working it out and not let us be played and saying, Oh yeah, you know, we're winning

00:06:25.140 and you know, our team. Yay. I think that's a problem. So that, I mean, that's a fascinating

00:06:30.500 perspective. I, I guess I don't agree because I'm for the first time in my adult life, I'm seeing

00:06:36.460 conservatives actually start to push back effectively. I mean, for the most part,

00:06:41.740 especially like Catholic groups, they just take it that, you know, you had Bill Donahue of the

00:06:46.200 Catholic league out there every once in a while being like, why won't you honor the death of

00:06:50.500 mother Teresa, the empire state building? You know, he, I'll never forget. He was like those preppy

00:06:55.160 little boys at the empire state building are going to learn. Well, they didn't learn. Um, so for the

00:07:00.200 most part, they've kind of rolled over and conservatives, while they complain about some of these

00:07:04.520 cultural issues, they would, they never, they weren't the boycotters and they kind of prided

00:07:09.160 themselves on that's not us. And you know what? They failed. The left took over all of our major

00:07:15.280 institutions and would exhort pressure on any institution that, you know, went far field when

00:07:21.440 it came to one of their ideological, uh, prized issues. And now finally the right is getting it.

00:07:27.640 And I think making some progress, I don't want to see the wokefication of a baseball team of a beer

00:07:34.860 company of a mass, you know, appeal, a store like target. I don't want to have to look at somebody's

00:07:42.580 ideological agenda when it comes to penises and women's bathing suits when I take my kid through

00:07:48.440 that. So what is the answer if not to fight? Well, and I'm, I'm not disagreeing that we have to stand

00:07:55.720 up and fight. And luckily we are seeing certainly when it comes to, um, men participating in women's

00:08:02.100 sports. I mean, and this, there's really two different sides of the trans, uh, issue. We have

00:08:06.620 80% of transitioners are teenage girls. You know, there's a huge, they have a huge target on the back,

00:08:11.500 but why they're transitioning is for different reasons than why men, uh, typically they're a little

00:08:17.060 older while they are transitioning. It has, in my opinion, very different background. If Michael

00:08:22.240 Noel spoke about, I don't think so, but you know, porn has a huge, uh, uh, influence on men making

00:08:27.940 this transition. It's really, it's, it's mental illness. And I'm just afraid that, okay, while we're

00:08:34.820 winning, let's not forget that we have to view everybody in 3d. Everybody needs an out. Everybody

00:08:39.940 needs some respect. And if you're, if you're dealing with mental illness, we have to recognize

00:08:45.120 that. And we have to say, okay, why is this happening? And the capture, we saw this with, um,

00:08:50.380 that just look, looking at the medical industry, big pharma, the, the capture is so apparent and

00:08:55.820 so huge. Just started with COVID where you couldn't even discuss an alternative, uh, remedy. Um, you

00:09:02.900 know, we had the mainstream media calling Joe Rogan a nut job and he was eating a horse paste because

00:09:08.200 he was taking ivermectin, um, which, you know, is now back on every schedule is, oh, it's okay. It

00:09:14.520 might even have some benefits against cancer. So when you have young children or even older

00:09:20.260 younger, uh, uh, or young adults who are confused, there's a lot going on in the world,

00:09:25.900 they have screens that are capturing them, you know, phones, social media, this goes all

00:09:30.440 the way back to Tumblr, um, drawing them into all kinds of issues. You have psychologists

00:09:36.760 and therapists who literally cannot do anything else according to their own, their own industry

00:09:43.000 and capture then prescribe transition. Oh, you know, this is the answer. I can't, I can't do

00:09:48.380 anything else with you. I can't talk about, you know, other issues that may be troubling

00:09:52.280 you. So in order to break out of that, and that's the same for the media, it's the same

00:09:56.860 for almost every single industry we have, uh, education, you know, are the, are the teachers

00:10:02.580 doing horrible things and teaching what woke, I quote unquote, woke ideology? Yes, but they're

00:10:08.160 captured. They can't, they can't turn and say, oh no, I'm not doing this because they're

00:10:12.160 out and they get no pension and everyone's in this, everyone's cancelable now. Everybody

00:10:17.600 is cancelable. Great. And I just want to use to just be one side. Yeah, well, correct. And

00:10:22.560 I just want to make sure that we, that we, you know, we just had Memorial day and, you

00:10:28.540 know, we all sell it. Well, first of all, we would go out and buy a mattress, you know,

00:10:31.300 that's mattress sale is now Memorial day, but we're supposed to honor the fallen who gave

00:10:36.700 their life for this country. And now we need heroes to stand up and say, you know, no more,

00:10:42.960 but we still have to recognize that we're all in this together. And if we just keep fighting

00:10:47.780 and declaring wins, I mean, it's going to end up really, really poorly. We have to recognize

00:10:53.660 the true enemy is people who are playing us against each other. And we all have something

00:10:58.580 going on, but we're looking at mental illness above all. Is there gender dysphoria? Of course.

00:11:03.840 Um, we were a great country. We accepted gay and lesbian. That was not a problem. You

00:11:09.120 know, I think in general, you know, homosexuality happens in nature. And, you know, if, if people

00:11:16.060 decide that they don't want to procreate and want to live with same sex, I grew up in the

00:11:19.380 Netherlands, so I'm very liberal on this. Uh, they want to live with same sex, sex partners

00:11:23.440 fine. Um, but there's been such a attack on the family that we're now, you know, let's

00:11:29.840 make sure that we don't have families. Let's make sure that we don't procreate. Let's

00:11:33.640 make sure that we sterilize our children, uh, through any means possible. I don't even

00:11:38.520 want to get into Planned Parenthood and how we moved from responsibility to kind of have

00:11:43.780 an abortion or not. You know, it used to be, you know, be responsible. Now it's just,

00:11:48.000 oh, you know, it's only, only that's the only fight.

00:11:50.780 The abortion is now the birth control. Keep going.

00:11:53.160 And that comes back to, I know a lot of people, a lot of people in the money business,

00:11:58.460 they only care about one thing. Is our population growing? As long as our population grows, we win.

00:12:06.600 So they're not afraid of China because China's population is declining, but our population is

00:12:11.320 not growing because we're procreating and creating more children. And by the way, same sex couples can

00:12:16.840 be great parents. You know, we have a lot of children who need parents and need a loving

00:12:20.160 household. And we had no problem with this. We were set, you know, we had, we were more liberal,

00:12:24.720 actually than most countries in Europe when it comes to gay marriage. And then what's this push

00:12:29.980 all about? We have opened our borders in order for the bankers to win. I'm just saying bankers

00:12:35.100 is a general term for them to win. So, and why is that great? Because those people coming in will

00:12:41.060 be obedient because their ultimate, they are the ultimate cancellation is like, oh, you don't play

00:12:45.540 by what we say. You're out. We'll ship you out. And they'll be cheaper. In the global scale of the

00:12:51.120 world, things were divided up. And this happened, you know, arguably back in the, in the Clinton

00:12:56.440 days, probably earlier than that, where America is in the global scheme. We don't produce, we consume,

00:13:02.580 we're the consumers. And as long as we can keep the consumers alive to consume and buy stuff and

00:13:08.100 somehow make sure that either throw credit or ultimately, I don't know, universal basic income

00:13:13.340 can keep us as the consumption arm of the world. And China and other Eastern countries, Far East,

00:13:21.120 be the producers. That's kind of what they want. We're all up against the globalists. And this is

00:13:26.520 what we need to realize in order to truly win back humanity. Otherwise, I just see it going down a dark

00:13:32.100 path and just fighting for forever. Well, I don't think you're wrong about that, that 30,000 foot view,

00:13:39.840 but I feel more like we're in the midst of, you know, the actual hand-to-hand combat that, you know,

00:13:47.380 the, the, the, the war requires an overall strategy, but it also requires victory in the

00:13:52.780 small battles. You know, we needed to win at Normandy. It was an important victory and each

00:13:58.360 of these battles. And that's what, that's what we're doing. That's what target is. That's what

00:14:02.040 Bud Light is. We're starting to turn the tide. Whereas we were just taking the beatings before

00:14:07.120 and we were losing the overall war, but the more they recognize that our side, and I say this as I

00:14:13.780 don't, I don't know. I don't even know what I am anymore, Adam. I always consider I'm a registered

00:14:18.120 independent, but if I take a test online, what are my, yeah, I don't know. If I take a test online,

00:14:23.400 what, like, what are my politics? It says I'm a conservative Republican. So I'm like, okay, I

00:14:27.460 don't, I never thought of myself like that, but whatever. I'm definitely more conservative in my

00:14:31.520 leanings, but we're, we're figuring it out. And, and to me, it's exciting because maybe these are

00:14:38.280 the first steps in sort of winning some of these cultural battles and then winning more political

00:14:43.040 battles and getting some more control over the issues that you're discussing. You know,

00:14:48.580 the problem, the reason I think target and Bud Light in particular are resonating is because

00:14:54.080 those are mainstream middle America brands. You know, it is not like, I don't know, say Nike.

00:15:01.340 That's like sports. It's like an athletic thing. They have this particular clientele. You know,

00:15:08.040 I don't know that people are going to get all that outraged over Nike taking political stances

00:15:11.560 like they have, they've been sort of left-wing appealing for a while, but Bud Light, no target.

00:15:18.000 No. And both of those things impose a different sort of threat. Now we're talking about threats

00:15:22.960 to children. You know, these crazy surgeries, these crazy sex hormones and the procedures that

00:15:27.860 forgive me, make you grow a baby carrot out of a clitoris. I'm sorry, it's graphic, but that's what

00:15:33.180 happens when you cross over to testosterone. That's what you're setting your, your 12 year old

00:15:37.800 girl up for. Uh, when you say you, I've just got to affirm who she is. And by the way, no 12 year

00:15:42.720 old girl knows that she's a boy. It's very rare for a girl to have actual gender dysphoria. To your

00:15:48.320 point earlier, the 80% is driven by something else and it tends to be social contagion. In any event,

00:15:54.200 um, that's why this is so exciting to see what's happening. They're being punished. This,

00:15:58.960 I don't know if you saw this, but this, um, they're gospel singers. They're pro Trump gospel

00:16:03.900 singers. They released an anti-target song. It's number one on all the charts. This is your

00:16:08.560 business as a former MTV VJ. Um, I'll play it for the audience. It's a, it's number one everywhere.

00:16:15.880 iTunes, you, you name it. And, uh, they're celebrating and thanking God that this has resonated

00:16:21.560 so much at South 13. Yes. So this to me is impactful.

00:16:51.540 This is empowering. This is empowering. These guys are, um, Jimmy Levy and Forgianto Blow.

00:16:57.120 Um, Levy says he's not a rapper. He's a gospel singer. And on Tuesday, it hit number one on

00:17:01.160 iTunes. Um, Levy tweeted out as a man, it is my job to stand up for the children and their future.

00:17:07.660 My children will know their father did not stay silent. He said target just lost 9 billion this

00:17:13.820 week. And of course now it's up as I pointed out to 12.7 billion. Yes. I agree with him as a man.

00:17:18.900 It is your job to stand up for children. It is your job. We need more guys like this saying no.

00:17:25.100 And I get your point about compassion. These people are going through something,

00:17:28.240 but I'm just, we're, we're in the bomb throwing phase of this revolution where we're just saying,

00:17:34.420 no, we've learned how to fight and we're going to fight. You want to fight? It's on.

00:17:37.520 Well, um, absolutely. I understand what you're saying. Expect bombs to be thrown back. Expect

00:17:44.220 real rhetorical. Just make that clear. Keep going. No, but, but I'm, I'm, I'm serious about

00:17:50.900 that. Expect, you know, there's now there's expected to be thrown back. We've been on the

00:17:55.080 receiving end of the bombs, Adam. We've been, we have our kids now to your point. They can't go see

00:18:00.120 a psychiatrist without getting affirmed in their momentary gender dysphoria, which is fake

00:18:05.160 nine times out of 10 and comes from really just my parents are getting a divorce. Those are bombs

00:18:09.080 coming our way and they're serious. So who's the enemy there? The enemy there is the pharmaceutical

00:18:14.100 industry. The enemy there is the complete capture of our medical system. I have a daughter. She's 30.

00:18:19.560 She's 33. I have two stepdaughters, 26 and 29. They have all at one point been on Adderall,

00:18:26.900 Vyvanse, um, uh, Zoloft, all different kinds of pharmaceuticals. We didn't have that growing up,

00:18:32.980 Megan. You and I didn't have that. That didn't happen that way. We are the only country except

00:18:37.160 for New Zealand in the world where you can advertise pharmaceutical products direct to

00:18:42.260 consumer. This is part of the reason why I believe Tucker Carlson was kicked off. The minute you start

00:18:47.220 to question that system, which is one of the true enemies. I mean, let's go after the pharmaceutical

00:18:52.920 companies. Let's, let's de-platform them. That will help everybody. Those are, those are the quote

00:18:58.780 unquote targets I'd like to go after. I'd also like to go after the war machine. I'm, I'm inherently

00:19:03.760 anti-war. And I think there's, you know, these are the real problems that, okay, we can take a win.

00:19:10.020 Just be careful because now there's calls on, you know, on the woke side for arming ourselves,

00:19:15.920 you know, let's get ready. You know, we're all at the practice range. You have the, uh, socialist

00:19:20.520 gun club of America. You know, we don't want to get into an actual shooting war. It can go beyond what

00:19:26.040 we, but let me give you an example. Okay. So we aired this clip of this trans person named Tara

00:19:30.660 J. This is a man who's not faking being a woman very well at all. Who's now threatening to shoot

00:19:36.820 us. If we try to stop him from going into the ladies' rooms, wherever he's so pleases. We ran

00:19:41.520 this not long ago. Watch this. I dare you to try and stop me from going into a women's bathroom.

00:19:49.560 It will be the last mistake you ever make. I dare you to try and stop a transgender woman

00:19:57.460 in my presence from using the bathroom. It will be the last mistake you ever make.

00:20:03.380 This is a call to action and a call to arms. You need to arm up plain and simple,

00:20:08.300 go out, buy a gun, learn how to use it efficiently.

00:20:12.580 And he is not the only one. We have a lot of trans people online making threats. If we try to

00:20:18.360 stop them from getting into women's spaces, that's not on me for fighting. That's not,

00:20:22.520 that's not on those of us who have said, get out, get out of our prisons, get out of our locker rooms,

00:20:26.100 get out of our sororities. That's on that lunatic.

00:20:29.180 I agree. Um, yesterday you were talking with Michael Knowles about the gynecologist. And to me,

00:20:35.200 what didn't come up in that conversation is it's your gynecologist. That guy needs to be in

00:20:40.660 trouble. And for him to allow that to come into his practice, that's on him or her.

00:20:46.820 Well, imagine, I mean, mine's a female, but can you imagine her in there? Like, where is it? I

00:20:50.420 don't, I looked, there's nothing here. I can't help you, sir.

00:20:54.240 But yet she's pretending she's going along with the facade because she doesn't want to get kicked

00:20:58.360 out of her profession, lose her practice. We saw this during COVID. You speak against it. Your

00:21:03.560 practice is gone. You get no insurance. You're completely wiped off the map. This is,

00:21:07.780 this is the true problem there in sports. I think the true heroes right now are the

00:21:12.500 women who are saying, you know what? No, I'm not going to do it. You had a couple of them on your

00:21:16.440 show yesterday. We need, you know, Martina Navratilova. And by the way, where are the gays

00:21:21.080 and lesbians? More gays and lesbians standing up against this stuff.

00:21:26.360 There's a group on Twitter called gays against groomers, which is doing a good job. And there are

00:21:31.020 some others, but the, the, I think it's one of the most dishonest things of the, the trans community

00:21:36.680 activists to try to glom on to the LGB, uh, activists. And why has it never has been like

00:21:44.680 where, why wouldn't glad say, you know what? Your battle's not our battle. Godspeed. Um, but

00:21:50.820 we're, we have very different interests and we're representing very different things. I mean,

00:21:54.580 Andrew Sullivan had an unbelievable post about seven days ago. I didn't see where he was talking

00:21:59.720 about how the new conversion therapy is what the trans community is doing. The little gay boys

00:22:04.960 and what's happening to adult gays and lesbians, like where are the lesbians bars? They're gone.

00:22:10.920 And now they're being called bigots. If they don't want to have sex with trans people, like

00:22:16.600 if you're a lesbian who gets turned on by women, biological women, you're now considered a bigot

00:22:21.880 if you're not into a trans woman. So again, there's, there again is a penis there again. You're,

00:22:29.140 it's not a woman. It's not what turns you on. So it's, he's wondering why there isn't more activism

00:22:36.220 by the LGB community to, to sever the tie and say, we have a divergence of interest here. It's a fair

00:22:44.480 question. And I completely agree. And I'll call out Kara Swisher as one of the top people who was

00:22:50.000 on the wrong side of this, who should be calling this out instead of, yeah, instead of, you know,

00:22:55.040 basically saying, oh yeah, no, all Republicans are horrible and they want to erase trans people.

00:22:59.660 That's of course a lie. That's not true. These people are afraid. They're afraid to be

00:23:04.620 canceled. That's, that's what it is. But that's why I brought up Memorial Day. We have to have that

00:23:09.900 courage to stand up to the true evil, the true, the true power behind this, which yes, on the

00:23:16.280 battlefield, yeah, in a way it's target, but you, you keep bringing up, you know, what's happening in

00:23:21.480 the medical community. Um, uh, in 1990, if you want to transition, you had to go through at least a

00:23:28.180 year of living as the other sex. You had to have that whole year under supervision of a psychiatrist,

00:23:33.660 uh, not just a therapist, you know, and then you had to, uh, uh, uh, you were slowly transitioned onto,

00:23:40.920 uh, onto hormones. I mean, it, it took about two years to transition to another sex. And I'm talking

00:23:48.020 more male to female. Cause that's what I get these numbers from, but now it's without your

00:23:52.640 parents' permission, you know, you're immediately told within 20 minutes, oh, you, you're having

00:23:57.580 issues because you're not sure about your sexuality, young girl. And, and of course, what are girls,

00:24:02.480 what choices are there? Become a Kardashian. Um, wow. I don't know. Should I get a breast enhancement

00:24:07.340 or should I go over this way? Cause I really don't want to be sexualized. And oh yeah, you're a boy.

00:24:12.340 I mean, you're talking young girls, young girls. They're so susceptible. Middle school is tough

00:24:17.220 as it is for girls. And that's the true target. That's what we're really, we're really messing up

00:24:23.240 the girls here. And you know, the, have you seen Affirmation Generation, the documentary?

00:24:28.520 Yes, I had them on the show. I had the filmmaker and two of the stars of the movie on the show

00:24:32.840 and recommend everybody. I've been giving out the website. It's, I think it's affirmation

00:24:36.940 generation movie dot. Watch it with your kids. Watch it with your kids. This will really help you.

00:24:42.820 Yes. It's a, they did a beautiful job. It costs $7. You got a Venmo, the payment to see it. It's

00:24:48.540 well worth your time. Go through the two minute, you know, filling out the box. Um, they're not

00:24:53.820 going to sell all your information. They just want you to learn. And this is the only way they could

00:24:57.620 get it out. Of course, because a movie like that, in the same way, Abigail Schreier had her book banned

00:25:01.820 on Amazon, Amazon over and over a movie like this is never going to be mass distributed, but not just

00:25:06.580 that Adam Carolla wouldn't have her on the show to talk about the book, but he was afraid of

00:25:10.920 whatever he was afraid of. You know, my friend, Joe wrote, Oh yeah. Joe Rogan was the one who,

00:25:15.560 who said, okay, come on my show. No way. I don't believe it. I, Adam, he's fearless. Adam,

00:25:21.360 that doesn't sound right to me. Okay. That's, that's the information I have.

00:25:26.800 All right. I'm going to, maybe he wasn't, maybe he wasn't fearless at that moment in time.

00:25:30.260 I'm going to send him a mean text and we're going to reverse it. He's going to have them on.

00:25:34.380 And I like Adam Carolla. I have no problem with him, but you know, there were a lot of people who said,

00:25:38.040 no, no, no, I don't, I don't want this problem right now. And, uh, and Joe Rogan said, okay,

00:25:42.900 come on my show. Yeah. Well, that's, this is what happens. I mean, this is why that leads me back to,

00:25:47.860 um, the, the, the target and the Bud Light and what's happening in baseball, because what's

00:25:53.240 happening in baseball is now a couple of guys. I mean, a handful, I think national review said it

00:26:00.080 was four, or maybe it's the federalist said it was four out of the 900 professional baseball

00:26:05.960 players have made mild comments on these boycotts. And also the, the drag queen show that makes fun

00:26:15.780 of the nuns. And there's already been massive backlash backlash. And that brings me to the

00:26:21.200 blue Jays, Toronto. Now, of course, Canada is like, it's one big San Francisco. Um, but the Toronto

00:26:27.700 blue Jays have a relief pitcher named Anthony Bass. He's the guy who was in the news recently for

00:26:32.500 complaining that United airlines forced his pregnant wife to get on her knees and clean up

00:26:37.960 after their two-year-old daughter, who was like to hot mess, dropping popcorn everywhere. And

00:26:41.080 everybody was like, shut up. Your, your wife should have cleaned it up. Anyway, he decided it'd be fun

00:26:46.680 to tweet out something else. And, uh, he shared an Instagram reel from an account that called on

00:26:52.380 Christians to avoid target and Bud Light. The original clip, again, he didn't say anything. He just

00:26:57.320 retweeted it or reposted it. Um, the original clip says, here's the reason biblically why I believe

00:27:03.120 Christians have got to be boycotting target and Bud Light and other corporations pushing these

00:27:07.380 things. Um, and they go on to say, this is evil. This is demonic. We won't stand for it. That's

00:27:12.180 essentially it. Um, so now immediately there were calls for him, this Toronto blue J relief pitcher,

00:27:17.760 Anthony Bass to be fired. They wanted him to be traded, released, or designated for assignment.

00:27:23.460 And then immediately he caved at him. I mean, like that he caved, uh, he apologized. The re-education

00:27:30.640 camp is underway. That's always part of it. I made a post that was hurtful to the pride community.

00:27:36.160 Truly sorry. Oh, we have it on, it's a, it's a soundbite. Take a listen. It's not a living.

00:27:42.020 I recognized yesterday, uh, I made a post that was hurtful to the pride community, which includes

00:27:48.380 friends of mine and close family members of mine. And I am truly sorry for that.

00:27:53.460 Um, I just spoke with my teammates and shared with them my actions yesterday. I apologized

00:27:59.520 with them. And as of right now, I'm using the blue Jays resources to better educate myself

00:28:04.240 to make better decisions moving forward. Uh, the ballpark is for everybody. Um, we include

00:28:09.340 all fans at the ballpark and we want to welcome everybody. That's all I have to say.

00:28:13.580 Okay. This poor guy. So he's obviously been, you know, browbeaten. And what does his team manager

00:28:20.440 do? Oh, Canada's the worst, but it's not just their problem. It's our problem too.

00:28:25.600 Love Canada. Love parts of Canada. Love Canadian Debbie and Kelly McGuire. Those are my producers.

00:28:30.360 Um, that kind of, kind of reminds me of LeBron James, you know, when, when, when a bad comment

00:28:34.940 about China came up and the Chinese said, you know, this is King, King LeBron, you know,

00:28:39.840 King James here. Oh, I got a buckle here. I mean, so these are not heroes to me. These

00:28:45.260 are weak men. And until you stand up for what you say.

00:28:48.900 Adam, a certain, what's the word? Uh, vulgar term for a cat comes to mind when I see this

00:28:57.480 behavior, because it's like some of these guys have millions and millions, only hundreds

00:29:01.740 of millions. So this is what happens. The manager comes out, John Schneider, who ought

00:29:06.620 to be shamed and says, this guy Bass, who we just listened to needs to go beyond making

00:29:10.920 a statement quote, we're not going to pretend like this never happened. We are not going

00:29:15.240 to pretend like it's the end and move on. There are definitely more steps that are going

00:29:20.240 to follow that he will get his pound of flesh out of, after this, out of this Anthony Bass

00:29:25.380 in order to make an example of him. Um, because you know, we can't have anybody else doing

00:29:30.580 this and I'll, I'll give a shout out to my pal, Jim Garrity over at national review,

00:29:34.920 who said the following, and I love this. Imagine a beer company that just wanted to

00:29:39.480 make good beer and sell it to you. Imagine if your company, if that company wanted to

00:29:43.820 sell beer to everyone, but did not feel that its job was to make you more accepting of

00:29:49.140 transgender individuals any more than it felt. It was its job to warn you about the national

00:29:53.180 debt or teach you the value of standardized testing in public schools, or warn you about

00:29:57.520 North Korea's intercontinental missile program. Imagine a beer company that liked its existing

00:30:02.480 customer base and did not feel a need to reeducate those customers and get them to give up their

00:30:07.300 fratty kind of out of touch humor. And it goes on to say same thing about target. Imagine an

00:30:12.780 everything store like target that wanted everyone to shop there, but had the good sense to realize

00:30:16.520 that partnering with a brand that had satanist inspired merchandise was not the way to win over

00:30:19.980 shoppers. And on it goes, right. That used to be the way we were right. When you and I grew up,

00:30:25.080 they weren't doing social messaging like this and target.

00:30:28.620 In 1996, I started a company called OnRamp. And one of my first customers was Anheuser-Busch

00:30:35.000 before they were bought by the Belgians. And I built Budweiser.com. I built BudLight.com.

00:30:40.780 And they had a lot of content. You had sports marketing and just a lot of interesting things.

00:30:45.920 We're in St. Louis on the ground all the time, figuring out, you know, what are we going to do

00:30:49.440 with this brand? How are we going to bring that to the web? They literally had never been on the web.

00:30:52.820 It was all new. And I remember us saying, you know, wouldn't it be great if we could put the

00:30:57.560 URL Budweiser.com or BudLight.com on the cans and bottles. At the time, August Bush IV was not quite

00:31:06.740 in power. It was his name. His nickname was Woody. And he was busy looking at Porsche catalogs. But

00:31:13.480 Grindr, his dad, the third, he pulled us into his office. He said, young man, you will never,

00:31:21.120 ever, ever, ever put anything else on our cans or bottles than our beautiful logo. You're never

00:31:27.460 going to touch that. That was their attitude. And then to, and of course, ultimately that did happen,

00:31:33.480 you know, because other brands were doing it. But to, when I saw even one can, if even it wasn't in

00:31:38.840 production with anything else other than the Budweiser, the Anheuser-Busch logo, the Bud Light logo,

00:31:44.940 with not just that, but someone on the can in front of the logo. This is not even questionable,

00:31:52.200 you know, less than 30 years ago. So we have, something has happened, which has been really,

00:31:57.760 really bad for that type of shift to take place. And okay, so then you get exactly what you deserve.

00:32:04.340 And I think it was not even so much the Mulvaney character, but, you know, the smugness of the

00:32:11.100 marketing people and the non-apology. You know, I think that's really what made people angry. And

00:32:17.940 I'm just blown away by how you, and I think it may really be over for Anheuser, not all of InBev,

00:32:24.500 but I think that they have damaged their brands so much. This could be a huge, huge disaster for them,

00:32:30.000 bigger than what we're seeing now.

00:32:31.180 Right. They're down. The latest sales figures had them down 29 and a half percent. That's the

00:32:36.660 latest ending, I think, May 20th. 29. This has been sustained. Their account, the Bud Light Twitter

00:32:42.740 account has not tweeted since this thing began, which was, I think, April 15th. They've gone

00:32:46.600 totally silent. They have no way out. They can't figure. They've made it so that it is uncool

00:32:53.540 and a middle finger to women and to people who don't want children to transition and all those things

00:33:00.420 to have a Bud Light. That's what you're now signaling when you order a Bud Light. And if you

00:33:05.900 don't know that and you order a Bud Light, you'll find out soon because people are openly shaming the

00:33:11.660 brand. I mean, people look at you funny right now if you order one of them. That's, I don't know how

00:33:15.300 you recover from that.

00:33:16.560 We have listeners everywhere. We call them our boots on the ground producers. And we, I won't say where,

00:33:21.940 but you know, really the beer business is the local distributors and the bottlers.

00:33:25.220 And so one rather large bottling plant has kept me up to speed and said that just before Memorial

00:33:32.480 Day weekend, they had no one working on the line. There was not a single beer or can bottle being

00:33:39.160 produced for Bud Light just before Memorial Day. Has not happened in 30 years' time.

00:33:45.260 And now the rival company, forgive me, what's the name of it? It starts with an M.

00:33:49.680 Coors Miller, probably.

00:33:50.920 No, it's like at the manufacturing level, the equivalent of Anheuser-Busch Modelo.

00:33:56.080 They make a lot of the competitive beers. Their sales have gone up some 30%. They're about to

00:34:02.520 take over. Anheuser-Busch is the number one seller of beers. I mean, you can see the direct

00:34:07.960 proportionate response by the consumer and Target, as we point out, losing between 12 and 13 billion

00:34:14.380 dollars. It's just share price. It could go back up. So it's not an actual loss necessarily,

00:34:18.240 but their sales are going to suffer too, undoubtedly. Bit by bit, these companies are

00:34:23.980 learning the hard way. I will say this before we leave the subject of baseball. There is a guy

00:34:30.040 on the Dodgers that's hosting this drag queen group that mocks nuns. It's not exactly the same

00:34:36.520 as Dylan Mulvaney, but it's, you know, a sister.

00:34:39.800 I've seen it. The, the, the aerobatics on the cross and everything is, yeah, it's pretty lame.

00:34:44.480 Yeah. The sisters of perpetual indulgence being honored, not only showing up at pride night on

00:34:50.100 June 15th, but actually being honored this group, despite what they say about Jesus and Catholics.

00:34:54.380 And this guy, um, he is, what's his, uh, let's see. Hold on. No, it's Blake Trinan. Uh, he'd come,

00:35:05.360 he tweets out. I'm disappointed to see the sisters of perpetual indulgence being honored

00:35:09.920 as heroes at Dodger statements. He's a stadium. He said they promote hate of Christians and people

00:35:14.780 of faith. Uh, people like baseball for its entertainment value and competition. The fans

00:35:18.820 don't want propaganda or politics forced on them. The debacle with Bud Light and target

00:35:24.380 should be a warning to companies and professional sports to stay true to their brand and leave the

00:35:28.540 propaganda and politics off the field. Exactly. Good for him. And I think he's exactly right. And I

00:35:35.520 think more and more, there's another guy, uh, is it Clayton Kershaw who spoke out about this as well

00:35:39.500 here and there, you're finding these guys who say, okay, try and cancel me. Try to, try to get rid of

00:35:46.360 me because I said, I stand with my fellow Catholics or I said, I don't, well, let's recognize what's

00:35:51.120 going on here. What's happening here is, is truly, um, now you're seeing the real war between good

00:35:57.640 and evil. Um, I'm a recent, uh, Christian a little over a year. Uh, and I literally came to my faith

00:36:03.920 because, um, I saw the evil that took place and I truly believe there's evil. And if there's evil,

00:36:09.380 there's gotta be good. And so my choice was Christianity. You can crap on any religion and

00:36:14.260 you can't crap on any religion except Christianity these days. Oh, the Christo fascist, et cetera,

00:36:19.040 et cetera. So let's recognize that that is a real war, maybe even at the base of a lot of this

00:36:26.480 between good and evil. And the whole idea is don't let people come to their faith, keep them away from

00:36:33.000 it. Um, what closed during the pandemic churches, you know, all, all these things, there's all reasons

00:36:38.660 for that. And so that's not just a culture war, that's a religious war and that's serious business.

00:36:45.220 Yeah, you're right. It's, it's alarming. And, and, you know, I look at what's happening out in

00:36:50.580 LA with the Dodgers. You think they'd ever be honoring a group that, um, made fun of Muslims

00:36:56.460 that thought it would really be really fun to mock Islam? No, of course not. No, never. They would

00:37:01.520 never do that because Catholics tend to, well, we're taught to turn the other cheek and we, it's,

00:37:06.440 it's baked into our religion to be forgiving. Um, though, you know, be nice if somebody would ask

00:37:11.940 for the forgiveness though. They're not, they're not sorry. They're doubling down. The group will

00:37:15.800 be honored. And it's just absurd. I mean, look at what happened to Charlie Hebdo when they tried to

00:37:20.720 draw Muhammad. That's it. Can you imagine if people dressed up a drag group dressed up as Muhammad

00:37:27.740 and then did all the insulting things that they've done, you know, with respect to Islam there,

00:37:33.140 people would get killed. So, but it's fine because Catholics don't behave like that. So

00:37:38.600 that makes us targets and Christians in general.

00:37:42.740 Yes. Um, unfortunately that that's the fact, you know, that, but that's why, um, you know,

00:37:48.680 the surgeon general just released this 81 page report about, uh, the true health crisis in America,

00:37:54.780 which is according to him, loneliness. He says that, um, that's, you know, the loneliness that

00:37:59.600 people experience is just as deadly as smoking 15 cigarettes a day, a weird comparison. Um,

00:38:05.060 but the word church appears, uh, exactly one time in these, uh, 81 pages. And it appears they're

00:38:12.220 only in the context of in 1999, 73% of Americans say they attended a church. And in 2022, of course,

00:38:21.640 it was, uh, it was, it was only, you know, 43%. Um, but there's never any suggestion of, Hey,

00:38:28.160 you know, America kind of built on Judeo-Christian values. Uh, maybe you should seek your community

00:38:35.040 at churches. No, it's everything else. In fact, disgustingly, that whole report kind of pushes

00:38:40.580 us more into the, we need 15 minute cities. It doesn't say that literally, but I can read through

00:38:45.220 the lines. Like you should be, you know, closer and not really go out anywhere and have everything

00:38:49.800 near you. And, you know, there's, there's some evil, evil, evil ideas, uh, at work here. Um,

00:38:56.860 uh, connection is protection, Megan. We've got to connect with each other, not just online,

00:39:02.620 but in person and start talking about this and bring more people into the conversation.

00:39:08.140 You know, we've been, we take our kids to mass. Our kids are nine, 12 and 13. And, uh, we were there

00:39:14.440 on Sunday and the priest was talking. He's great. We go to this one that's more child-friendly,

00:39:18.960 this mass. And by the way, for those, you know, non-observant Catholics out there and,

00:39:23.900 and Christians writ large, you can find a service that is more devoted to children. So it's a more

00:39:29.820 pleasant experience for your whole family. But the priest was talking about how, if you're feeling

00:39:34.920 lost, if you're feeling a struggle, if you're feeling untethered, you should call on the Holy

00:39:40.340 Spirit, pray to the Holy Spirit to come fill you up and help you. And he talked about how,

00:39:44.920 and this is great for the kids about how, when you're baptized, it's like making chocolate milk.

00:39:51.280 And he was asking the kids, how do you make the chocolate milk? You pour the Hershey syrup in,

00:39:54.760 but do you have chocolate milk yet? No. What do you have to do? And the kids are all saying,

00:39:57.940 oh, you know, you got to stir it. And he's like, you got to stir it. And he's like, that's same with

00:40:01.980 having Christ in your life and the Holy Spirit. You got to stir it a little. You got to go pray.

00:40:05.960 You've got to ask for this, the Holy Spirit to come fill you and help drive you. And I thought,

00:40:10.160 this is so great. It's just giving these kids tools, tools other than wokeism or identity politics

00:40:17.340 or vitriolic politics, where you just judge everybody unforgivingly by inviting the Holy

00:40:22.780 Spirit to come fill you up by thinking about Jesus in your moment of feeling listless or lonely.

00:40:30.020 Why wouldn't you make the effort to bring your child, you know, to services, whatever your religion

00:40:35.720 is just, even if you don't feel it, bring your child and give them the gift of at least having

00:40:41.700 that option. I love how you phrase that. Our pastor, Jimmy Pruitt, he talks about every morning,

00:40:49.300 I start off with my wife and say, good morning, Holy Spirit. And then as I pray, I'm like, fill me up.

00:40:54.440 And the whole idea is fill up my buckets, my leaky buckets. So fill those buckets up. So as I walk

00:41:00.240 around all day, I'm just splashing out goodness everywhere. That concept, I think is exactly what

00:41:05.360 you're talking about. Right. And it's not, and then, you know, it's look, it's not, I mean,

00:41:09.880 when I grew up, they didn't do anything for the children. It was just like the mass, most of what

00:41:14.060 you didn't understand. The homily was like a foreign language. I really think if you make a

00:41:19.100 little effort, you can find a great service for your family, whatever your religion, and you will

00:41:24.040 leave every week. We leave feeling better, feeling lighter, feeling more connected with God and more

00:41:30.120 connected as a family. These are all good things. All right. Stand by. We are happy to be connected with

00:41:34.300 Adam Curry today for the entire show. We owed him. We owed him a solid after canceling him on Tucker

00:41:39.920 the day, the Tucker and the Don Lemon. It was such a sport and it's an honor to have him. Stand by for

00:41:45.720 more with Adam. So during Women's History Month, we celebrate and we honor the women who made history

00:41:54.500 history during a month historically while being women. I mean, it's like, it reminds me of Cliff

00:42:15.000 Clavin from Cheers. Remember, like, wait, what? It's nice to be nice to the nice Sammy. So there's

00:42:24.580 a new defense running now, Adam, for these kind of just completely awful speeches that are uninspirational.

00:42:31.620 Her attempts to offer profundities are the worst in politics. She's number one. So here's the view

00:42:39.000 running cover for why Kamala Harris keeps doing this. I don't know if she's going off script and

00:42:45.300 ad-libbing or improv-ing. And if that's the case, she needs to stay on script. If it's her speech

00:42:50.220 writer, they need to change the speech writer. I would add that as a lawyer, you're generally told

00:42:54.860 when you're speaking that you speak in threes because that's what people remember. So if you're

00:42:59.600 going to talk about a car, you talk about the car, the red car, the fast red car.

00:43:04.200 Oh my God. It's a, it's a law thing. You see, Adam, it's a law thing. It's weird how we don't

00:43:09.740 hear every lawyer talking that way. In fact, it's an advertising thing. That's why you hear the 1-800

00:43:15.600 number three times in a row. That's what it is. Yes. Well, was she really wanting us to know about

00:43:22.040 women's history month in the month of women? If you look at them historically, there's a lot of women

00:43:27.800 in many months. I mean, it's just what an absurd attempt to cover up with somebody who is just

00:43:31.960 not that articulate, not inspirational at all. And I would posit that she absolutely is ad-libbing.

00:43:38.380 I mean, if, if, if this is written for her by a speech writer, it's even more egregious.

00:43:43.540 I think it is a speech writer, honestly. And I, and I think that this is all purposeful. They do not

00:43:48.200 want her to be, they never want her to be president. She's a placeholder. She just put in there to fill,

00:43:54.340 fill a box. Similarly, I think even Democrats recognize that Joe Biden is not really running the show.

00:44:01.380 Unless he's kind of like that old gangster who pretended to walk around peeing his pants and

00:44:06.240 was really running the show from Sicily. I don't know, but I doubt it. And when you're that age,

00:44:13.040 you know, you probably just get slower in general. Most people do. This is all just, just a placeholder

00:44:18.340 to either keep it going for, oh, God forbid, another four years or waiting for the next, the next,

00:44:26.320 you know, the, what is it now? The fifth term of Obama, who I think is still running behind,

00:44:30.480 running things behind the scenes. Certainly his people are. And by the way, I don't think a

00:44:34.880 president has ever left office after two terms and stayed in Washington, DC. So there's something

00:44:41.640 going on there. You know, there's all kinds of people still running around. I have to say,

00:44:46.520 I'm, people laugh at me when I say it, but I still believe we will see a last minute Michelle

00:44:51.380 Obama entry. I mean, they, they need a miracle and she's probably the best way of providing it

00:44:57.280 because if they don't, and God forbid something happens to Joe Biden, we're stuck with this.

00:45:01.300 Listen to Kamala Harris. You heard at the end of that little soundbite, one of her favorite phrases

00:45:04.320 is something about unburdening. You can unburden whatever. You'll hear it here because this is

00:45:09.360 her go-to. Unburdened by the time or whatever. Yeah. This is all she's got. And the, it was the RNC

00:45:14.960 put this together. I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been, you know,

00:45:21.380 what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be

00:45:34.860 unburdened by what has been what we can see what we believe can be unburdened by what has what can

00:45:43.880 be unburdened by what has been adam you gotta have the hand motion too you gotta add that

00:45:51.340 to it otherwise she's an actor she's an actor she has nothing actually interesting or profound

00:45:59.060 to say yeah well she's she's never been an impressive politician i mean i think everyone

00:46:04.400 kind of knows her history if not it's worth it's worth reminding people how you know she through

00:46:09.480 willie brown uh came into uh into positions in california so to speak you know to me the

00:46:16.120 psychological operation of calling her black as in black american uh that you know the same with

00:46:22.280 obama by the way except michelle obama is just not you know black american as and what i say is you

00:46:28.560 descendants of slavery that's that's not what she is she's jamaican and she's indian so even just how

00:46:35.540 that has been pushed upon everybody has been insanely weird well meanwhile tim scott is tim scott's got a

00:46:44.000 legitimately black american experience and look how he's been treated he's already being treated like

00:46:50.140 he's getting with clarence thomas too they're both being dismissed as you know kinfolk or skinfolk but

00:46:55.940 not kinfolk right so it's like they'd much rather elevate her just because she's got the right

00:47:00.400 politics as they try to keep joe biden propped out because her politics may be good but they know she's

00:47:05.940 not electable i will just say this before we go to break you know the movie dave was a great movie

00:47:10.400 about start kevin kevin klein and he was playing the president and sigourney weaver was his what was

00:47:15.380 his wife and he was a the one version of kevin klein was an impersonator of the president and the real

00:47:20.580 president has a stroke and this manipulative chief of staff decides to put him down in the basement

00:47:26.220 try to keep him alive long enough to bring in this impersonator who's also played by kevin klein

00:47:30.360 and see if he can get his agenda you know by pulling the puppet strings of the fake president

00:47:35.140 we're a couple steps away from that some of these days i look at joe biden i think

00:47:41.100 is this a dave situation is he still think so can you can google that movie while we go to break

00:47:47.920 and uh we'll be right back with adam curry as we talk about the furry convention that ron de santis

00:47:53.700 is changing in florida and the freak out by rolling stone adam an offshoot of the weird focus on gender

00:48:05.260 identity is the even weirder focus on some animal identities that is becoming a thing i shared the

00:48:13.440 story on months ago of a friend of mine who knows a guy who has a big company he hired this totally

00:48:20.340 normal seeming young woman out of college she crushed the interview hired her showed up first day

00:48:26.320 running marketing i think it was and uh she said i identify as a tiger she was wearing the tiger ears

00:48:34.220 tiger tail and this person had to interact with customers and this poor guy is like holy shit what am i

00:48:41.760 going to do and in the it could just be a long game to extort the guy for money but he should play the

00:48:48.340 game and he should play it fiercely because that is not a protected identity you identifying as a tiger

00:48:53.180 is not and i brought a protected identity you can fire somebody for doing that so that's my free legal

00:48:59.120 advice to that guy it's a growing thing and unfortunately it's capturing like children it's capturing

00:49:05.900 children um and i was a witness to this too where there was a young girl in this shop that i was in

00:49:11.800 it was a pet shop where i was shopping for dog food and she was mad at her dad she was 16 around there

00:49:19.480 she was mad that he would only buy her the leash and not the collar or maybe it was the collar not

00:49:24.760 the leash and she said you dad you know i identify as a furry i need them both i mean it's just crazy

00:49:30.100 what's happening so there is a furry convention that takes place i guess there's probably many of

00:49:36.300 them this one takes place in florida in orlando in september at the hyatt hello weird florida sun

00:49:43.820 furry fun is the tagline the name of the group is megaplex that's not the name of the organization

00:49:49.640 or of the host there it's being held at the hyatt regency it's the furry group is under the banner

00:49:55.460 of megaplex now they're not going to be able to invite children to this this year because of

00:50:01.380 desantis's new protection of children act in florida which is overwhelmingly supported by the voters

00:50:06.940 and it prohibits children at adult live performances it covers sexualized drag shows things like this

00:50:16.040 and it's good stuff it says uh kids can't attend presentation that depicts or simulates nudity

00:50:22.560 sexual conduct or specific sexual activities right that you can go look at these pictures my god

00:50:27.540 you can go when you're 19 you can't go or 18 you can't go when you're 17 so now you get

00:50:34.160 rolling stone used to be a respected magazine that would be sort of the voice of the people on a lot

00:50:40.180 of cultural issues no more now they are lamenting through an article by a woman named ej dixon

00:50:45.940 that desantis has successfully sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys

00:50:53.660 from drag brunches to disney uh and now maybe bringing the axe down on furries ej dixon writes

00:51:04.080 that many furries are marginalized in some way many identify as lgbtq a sizable percentage of furries are

00:51:13.320 also neurodivergent and as a result they tend to view the furry community as a safe haven of sorts

00:51:20.480 so she thinks it's a wonderful thing that young people who are struggling with something some sort

00:51:25.880 of neurodivergence whatever it may be um and with sexual identity immerse themselves in the furry

00:51:32.020 community which not for nothing but it has heavy sexual overtones it has a heavy sexual bent in its

00:51:40.240 history and in 2011 a surrey a survey of furries found that a third said sex is actually an important

00:51:51.160 part of their furry participation i would submit for the record ej dixon doesn't know what the hell

00:51:58.480 she's talking about so what do you make of it well rolling stone first of all for a decade now has been

00:52:05.080 just shameful i mean this is not the rolling stone i know from my mtv days this is not the rolling stone

00:52:10.740 that had matt taibbi report on the financial crisis you know accurately which of course also went nowhere

00:52:16.260 rolling stone has done some great things this is this is just shameful um i know furries um uh og furries

00:52:22.980 and yes 100 oh i can't believe i said that i despise people who say 100 i'm sorry i i take that back

00:52:30.080 oh um i know them um it is completely a sexual thing um and they're listeners of my podcast and

00:52:38.680 they they sell me straight up oh yeah no this is a whole sexual thing we love these conferences we

00:52:43.940 we love this fetish which is fine you know justice i've been to drag shows i've been to burlesque shows

00:52:49.180 you know that's fine um is that inappropriate for children of course it is so that that uh law in

00:52:55.660 florida is is spot on um this is part of the victim mentality that's been created you know i think

00:53:02.580 we're living in what i call the trans maoist period of the united states where we've just all been set up

00:53:08.780 to um you know to be a victim of anything you want and you get points for that and then you can make a

00:53:15.000 big deal out of it and it's all very egotistical um i wish that more people would focus on their local

00:53:21.800 politics and what's happening in their uh cities their states their counties and the schools and

00:53:27.100 the rules and regulations that are taking place there instead of an obsession with presidential

00:53:31.800 politics which is still quite a way off um so i'm you know straight up i have nothing against furries i

00:53:37.320 have nothing against drag shows and i don't and you know it's so disingenuous for mainly politicians but

00:53:44.720 also um you know other voices to be saying they which always means the other side want us dead they

00:53:52.080 want us erased that's far from the truth but when it comes to children you've just got to stop that

00:53:57.900 it's all about targeting our children for anything and we'll just see more and more of that and that

00:54:02.720 of course has been a very good move and it's not just i don't think it's the governor i think it's the

00:54:07.360 legislature etc um we you know we need more action that took place in florida in all of our other

00:54:14.320 states including texas you know we could that's where i am you know greg abbott isn't isn't necessarily

00:54:18.960 out of the woods as far as i'm concerned no this is the great stuff of ron de santis he does not care

00:54:23.860 he's like bring it furry you know you like you say you do what you want on your own private he's not

00:54:30.420 saying you can't have this privately like that the grown-ups can't go that would be another thing

00:54:35.340 entirely he's saying keep your furry paws off of our children and it's very easy to support

00:54:42.020 it is um and you know the the problem i have with uh governor de santis and i guess

00:54:50.040 you know uh he's he's running now obviously um you also have to be for something you know you can't

00:54:55.740 just be against again if you want if you want to win if you want to be president then you also have

00:55:00.620 to be for something that both sides can agree on maybe border would be one thing but he is funded

00:55:07.020 by you know the same people in my mind who literally created esg you know it's this it's it's big money

00:55:14.900 it's also you know some of the bush gang is getting back together so we have to be careful as to you

00:55:20.980 know what we really want and you know do you doubt then adam that once if he were to get into the

00:55:27.140 presidential office he would be the way he's been as governor well but that doesn't matter

00:55:33.500 the president is not going to determine what books are in your school you know that is not a

00:55:38.280 presidential uh power he just doesn't have that so we can all cheer and you know but i'd like to see

00:55:44.680 a little more um you know of what can we do for all of america and not just anti-woke i have arguments

00:55:52.460 with my own listeners about this who are like whoa what what are you talking about he's great you know

00:55:56.540 he's he's getting rid of the woke i'm all about getting rid of the woke yeah but they're still

00:56:00.020 americans so we have to find something where we all agree he i would like to he has a lot to brag

00:56:05.300 about great economy all kinds of good things were done in florida uh although it's not it's a little

00:56:11.340 disingenuous that he you know he wasn't pro kind of some of the covid measures in the beginning

00:56:15.940 um he did a good job and other than christy noem there's not a better governor on the covid record

00:56:22.060 uh well when you have a state of 800 000 people it's easy not to close close that down um man i i

00:56:30.120 just spoke to a friend who's uh uh and she's their governor and man they feel differently i mean and

00:56:36.600 these are these are right-leaning christian probably republicans i don't know his politics and he's like

00:56:41.940 you know christy noem we're not so happy um there's a lot going on that that i have to study and

00:56:46.480 understand between you know their one representative and their two senators and what she wants to do

00:56:51.800 she seems totally totally the business right i mean the the image is there everything's

00:56:57.520 and covid come on you got to give her covid i'll give her covid but you know we also had you know

00:57:03.480 smaller cities that you know pretty much stayed open as well i mean her state literally is 800 000

00:57:08.540 people and spread out so that was pretty easy call all right so back to desantis and um the furries i mean this

00:57:16.480 well i want to say a couple things number one um more than half of the furries surveyed in that

00:57:21.720 survey i just mentioned said that they would be zero percent human if they could

00:57:26.780 so this is not just like a fun little costume that they wanted like they actually want to become

00:57:34.240 animals um they have a term for sexual activity between furries it's called yiffing supposedly named

00:57:42.940 after the sound foxes make during sex who the hell's listening to foxes have sex and then they name a

00:57:48.160 whole thing after you got too much time have you ever seen foxes foxes make weird noises and they

00:57:53.980 jump around in weird ways and foxes i'm familiar with foxes i know we had one come to our house in

00:57:59.960 montana during covid and we made the mistake of oh so cute oh let's put our leftover chicken fingers

00:58:04.920 for it and then we're like you're a bunch of idiot secret city slickers the montanans are like

00:58:09.240 it'll bite your face off like oh that's it with the chicken fingers do you know what foxes really

00:58:14.140 like in uh i lived in the uk and my daughter had her own apartment and there was a while there where

00:58:19.040 no more fox hunting because it's cruel towards foxes so of course what happened is the foxes were coming

00:58:23.960 right into the city they were coming right into london she had her back door open and they came fox came

00:58:29.520 in stole one of her shoes they love shoes apparently pumps even is their favorite so there's something with

00:58:35.420 foxes that it needs to be studied oh yeah they love stealing shoes who knew is that an actual fox

00:58:41.180 or a furry fox because that i can understand with a shoe and again the furries you know this is america

00:58:47.380 we have a great tradition of being crazy and doing weird stuff and furries is no exception you know we

00:58:53.140 have people i like stilt walking you know we have all kinds of weird stuff and that's always been okay

00:58:58.580 you know but i can't take that seriously that they really want to be and that's it's like they're

00:59:04.000 probably promoting a convention and a lifestyle which is definitely a sexual uh sexually oriented

00:59:10.700 lifestyle well that's fine but just well that so it's not that unrelated right okay so fine i agree

00:59:15.620 with you and i've told my audience before i'm very very against kids going to drag queens that shows

00:59:19.980 that are sexualized and most of them are i'm totally fine with adults doing it and i've done it myself i

00:59:25.000 went back in my days in chicago when i was in my 20s i loved it there was this great club and we used to

00:59:28.980 have tons of fun my girlfriends and i and laugh and we'd leave very confused because those women

00:59:32.980 quote women the drag women were better looking than all of us we were like we need to try harder

00:59:37.960 we need to make more of an effort so it's just wrong on many levels but de santis he this is the

00:59:43.400 reason they're suffering with this is because he is worried about the kids and i do think you know i

00:59:47.700 see take your point about how he's got to be more about stopping things he's got to be you know proactive

00:59:52.100 in his policy but this has become an issue for him not so much on the drag it's a little bit on the

00:59:56.080 drag but more on the disney and so he made remarks on this um was it yesterday i think it was

01:00:01.100 yesterday in iowa where he's putting all of his effort i mean he's got iowa coverage to the point

01:00:07.760 now where like if you're going to knock on your door you know it's a de santis person he's going

01:00:11.320 for iowa and this is his message for the voters out there and for all of us i suppose uh yesterday

01:00:16.540 we run the state of florida they do not run the state of florida i know all these republicans

01:00:24.240 are lining up against me to take the side of disney but i'll tell you this we stand for the

01:00:31.220 protection of our children we will fight those who seek to rob them of their innocence and on that

01:00:37.940 point there will be no compromise all right so he's reading from a script there but it's one i believe

01:00:46.440 is near and dear to his heart so you know where do we go on disney because this is becoming an issue

01:00:53.120 within the gop field he's taking heat on it from nikki haley and others who are saying it is not

01:00:59.240 conservative to go after a company whose viewpoints you don't like we had a debate on this uh show on

01:01:06.440 friday with dave rubin in which i raised some of those same concerns my audience was definitely

01:01:11.460 against me just having read the comments and i i get that i stand by the way i feel as a lawyer and

01:01:17.760 as a citizen i really really really don't want government punishing private viewpoints their

01:01:22.680 position was and dave's was this isn't really a punishment because he's just reduced disney down to

01:01:27.960 the level it otherwise would have been he's taken away a special privilege as opposed to

01:01:32.680 you know reducing them to lesser privileges than the average citizen has well the whole you know

01:01:39.740 reducing privileges and then disney you know saying oh well we're going to pull out our billion dollar

01:01:44.640 project you know they don't put in there or you don't see at the bottom of the press releases

01:01:49.380 you know we're still putting 17 billion into florida this is all just posturing disney is killing itself

01:01:56.040 and it's the citizens and it's you as a mom and it's um it's people consumers who are killing disney

01:02:01.940 because just look at their numbers they had to bring in bob eiger one of my good friends uh was in the

01:02:07.760 the recent layoff he's an executive um and so i know a little bit more on the inside uh but they

01:02:14.060 they completely this is a true example of go woke go broke people consumers their their general audience

01:02:21.540 is sick of it and disney plus is losing a lot of money um they just they put so much into content that

01:02:30.360 people really aren't interested in even if certainly if you look at uh what they're what they've been

01:02:35.560 doing with some of their great properties with marvel cinematic universe the customers are walking

01:02:40.640 away from it and they are hurting themselves i i think disney is in really big trouble just from

01:02:46.740 what they are doing you don't need government intervention for them to be taken down a notch

01:02:51.700 or 10 this is happening all by itself and this is something just like target everybody can participate

01:02:58.000 in and it's not just people on the right it's people on the left too it's like i'm just sick of it i

01:03:02.340 just i just want to have be entertained have something nice good good wholesome content which

01:03:09.680 is what disney stood for the minute you take it political all americans get turned off by that

01:03:15.340 they are screwing themselves it kind of happened with the oscars too you know when people tuned out

01:03:21.020 oh my goodness yeah right i was just thinking that was another victory because half the country said

01:03:27.200 we're out we're sick of these just terrible people lecturing us on morals from these podiums then you

01:03:34.760 find out later it's like harvey weinstein how many women did he molest or rape right he's in jail right

01:03:39.340 now for doing several of those things so they turned off and the oscars plummeted nobody's watching the

01:03:45.300 oscars anymore not to not to mention the emmys and all that once they got rid of rich ricky gervais

01:03:49.200 nobody watched so now here we are with bud light with target with the la dodgers controversy though the

01:03:55.040 dodgers are a unique position because you can't just go buy another dodgers you know like you love

01:04:00.420 your sports team that's your sports team you can't just like go get another beer i think there's a

01:04:04.560 little more going on with award shows um what happened is people got sick of celebrity they got

01:04:09.700 sick of celebrities telling us what to do how we should act what we should believe in um we now have

01:04:16.260 influencers who are way more important than any than i'll just say john legend who was very bigoted person

01:04:22.600 horrible yeah it just you know he believes that the only creative good creative people are democrats

01:04:27.500 he says it literally um so you know this is an and it's also the demise of mainstream you know there

01:04:35.580 is so much um content that has been made available really with cheap money which is you know that that

01:04:41.680 train has ended that um you know people are flocking to tiktok and tiktok does something very interesting

01:04:47.540 which is good and bad they don't follow the american media model of let's create some opposition and

01:04:53.160 strife no they say oh you like this kind of content you like red stuff you're red you want blue you got

01:04:57.740 blue you're right you're right now of course you want trans you get indoctrinated over here with trans

01:05:02.700 not all necessarily good but um all the money all the money is going to tiktok and that's your new

01:05:10.540 that's your new um uh influencers and successes and and the money is really all that's why google

01:05:18.400 initially google and twitter and meta that's why they wanted um tiktok gone not because of some

01:05:25.880 mythical chinese influences going to kill our children we're doing fine by ourselves with that

01:05:30.640 we don't need china um it's because they're eating their lunch this is what's happening um and now the

01:05:37.320 internet it has good and bad has just taken away all the power that mainstream had um we saw this

01:05:44.760 first happen with newspapers and print and now that you know that business is pretty much dead and now

01:05:49.680 it's a slow motion demise where you just can't monetize the network anymore you don't have a monopoly

01:05:56.560 on who gets on the air you're a great example of that you know there's many people who have figured

01:06:02.880 this out like don't become part of a network who determine what you can do or how the ad buys are

01:06:08.460 distributed no go and do it on your own this is podcasting this you know i started this 19 years

01:06:13.720 ago now the whole idea was as an entity you can have an audience you don't have to be number one

01:06:19.760 you have to be the number one in the country you can have a million people or even a thousand people

01:06:25.160 they will support you and if and you can have advertisers who will support you who will support your

01:06:30.620 message and stand for your message may not support other things this is what they haven't figured out

01:06:36.160 yet they're all just kind of circle jerking thinking that they're the boss but they're not

01:06:39.740 it's over yeah i i had a conversation with tucker carlson that sounded just like that in between his

01:06:47.800 unceremonious ouster from his role uh and and now you know just trying to explain how look i don't know

01:06:54.500 that you're at the center of the universe and the way you would be when you're tucker carlson on fox

01:06:58.380 news at 8 p.m but i think it's almost a good thing like perhaps there's just a few fewer knives

01:07:03.760 out for you and yet you still have enormous influence especially if you're tucker carlson

01:07:08.880 um and and yet you will find brands i mean i of course say some controversial things and so does

01:07:14.200 you know matt walsh and so do a lot of people and yet you can find these wonderful advertisers who

01:07:18.960 will stand by you and i'm so grateful to them you know it's like it's almost like you become

01:07:24.620 uncancellable because if you've got steely spined advertisers then you can say you do have the

01:07:30.580 freedom to say what you want and i like doing it with advertisers as opposed to a purely subscription

01:07:36.000 model because that gets expensive for the customer you know like i don't want to ask all my viewers to

01:07:40.320 pay money to listen it's just it's a lot um so it's great i mean and look that's why i really look

01:07:47.100 you i really want people to support the average like go buy rosetta stone like go go buy your products

01:07:52.780 from genucell do it i use them myself to make sure they're good before i push them but that you're

01:07:57.620 supporting more than just the brand there's there's a third option which i started with the no agenda

01:08:02.320 show we call it value for value and the idea is no one's a listener you're all an active participant

01:08:08.360 and you can participate in the program by sending whatever you get from the show if it's if some value

01:08:15.600 to you and if there's no value why are you even listening but if there's some value send it back

01:08:20.480 with either time talent or treasure so we have never built a website we have never had to worry

01:08:26.240 about um our servers all of this has been contributed by the people who listen to the show

01:08:30.720 and there's about four percent who will actually send us back money and the amazing thing is is when

01:08:37.920 you leave it open-ended and don't say oh this is going to cost you 99 cents or a dollar or ten dollars

01:08:44.020 a month it turns out that if you ask how much was this worth to you people send you much higher

01:08:49.920 amounts and yeah it fluctuates over time but when you get to um an audience that is believes and

01:08:56.060 understands they are a part of it it's sustaining dvorak and i with no agenda we've been doing this

01:09:01.180 now for almost 16 years we've never had an advertisement of course we're completely uncancellable

01:09:06.640 in that regard we don't have to worry about it we also have meetings with advertisers um and does it

01:09:12.220 fluctuate when it's tax time yeah it goes down a little bit but when they get there when people

01:09:16.360 get their refunds it goes back up and are we billionaires no but we live comfortably we have

01:09:22.140 put our kids through school or whatever they wanted to do and anybody can do this you know if you have a

01:09:26.960 thousand people who want to support you whatever your your community is about and if they can support

01:09:33.280 you with uh with a hundred dollars a year you have a life you can sustain and this community can

01:09:40.540 continue and that's what people are figuring out you know what i noticed this like one of the things

01:09:46.980 i love about this position is the people are here because they they want to listen to these

01:09:52.020 conversations right like there's a there's a loyalty that they have to the show and the cast of

01:09:57.380 characters that we put on it and i hopefully i'm part of it and there's a loyalty i have to them

01:10:01.880 and so when i get because people take they write in mail uh to the show by the way you can email me

01:10:07.100 megan megan at megan kelly.com or they post comments on youtube sometimes they post comments

01:10:13.460 on apple i read them i read them and so i'm getting all this feedback from people who i know

01:10:19.560 are rooting for me so it's different i listen it's not like just getting trolled by who knows whom you

01:10:26.320 know the left nine times out of ten when i was on fox on any comments that i'd see online that i knew

01:10:31.580 to discard these i can tell when they're actual fans and they actually watch the show and so i

01:10:37.000 listen to their criticisms i take them in i think about them what's what's valid what i don't want to

01:10:42.620 respond to because i know that we're on the same team you know what i mean i'm not speaking

01:10:46.820 ideologically just speaking about what we're doing here what we're building here that's been one of the

01:10:51.680 most meaningful parts for me and um you know i i kind of found out my true mission in life

01:10:58.820 because there is still a danger i mean spotify apple uh these people de-platform you in a

01:11:05.700 heartbeat megan if they get enough complaints so you know we built a complete value for value podcast

01:11:11.580 index uh which now 60 or 70 apps and services are using so you know if if you ever get kicked off of

01:11:21.080 apple or spotify which could happen i mean this conversation by itself could be deemed transphobic

01:11:26.080 you know you can go to podcast apps.com and there's a whole bunch of great podcast apps that

01:11:31.260 are independent that are completely separated from any of this infrastructure so it's and it's really

01:11:37.040 truly one of the last things that uh that has that luxury it's it's quite amazing how podcasting

01:11:43.220 you know has gone to the gotten to this point i have to say i dare you i dare you to de-platform me

01:11:51.600 apple i dare you i will rain hell down on you for a woman speaking up for girls and for her fellow

01:11:59.760 women and our rights to be safe and to have our spaces i dare you i will unleash hell on that company

01:12:07.980 i will actually lead protests in the street i will go to the outside of apple headquarters they cannot do

01:12:14.460 it they can't they will live to regret i will make them a bud light if they try to shut down these

01:12:18.860 conversations because we are finding our voices and we're getting help from men right matt walsh has

01:12:23.520 been amazing all the guys at daily wire and so many others and the the audience i mean people are

01:12:29.620 figuring it out right now after girl after girl gets hurt woman after woman gets hurt loses money

01:12:35.320 loses safety loses something so i don't think that they're that they can do that i really don't i don't

01:12:39.760 not on this issue and that's really the only one that i think i'm potentially cancelable on um i don't

01:12:45.100 know maybe i'll find out the hard way i'm wrong you just scared i'll go down with a fight to be i would

01:12:48.800 hate to be tim cook right now and hear that what you just said so yeah and i agree and and i and i

01:12:54.280 you know we're a megan kelly household my my wife listens religiously and oh and if i don't hear she

01:13:00.560 always tells me what's going on um and she does believe me and i really uh appreciate what you are

01:13:07.440 doing for women um because our children under are under attack and our women and our future women

01:13:14.100 this is this is a real thing and i'd like and again i'd like to see all women join in this pushback

01:13:20.180 including uh lesbians you know come on you're women you have to stand for this i completely concur

01:13:27.000 yeah um one comment you made earlier that i wanted to follow up on because it was this is a story that

01:13:32.320 caught my eye in the news you were talking about how um there's this instinct to go to the victim

01:13:38.080 place you know the the poor furries as rolling stone wrote about it you know like they're they're

01:13:42.920 neuro whatever diseases and they you know we should feel sorry for them and uh they need to work out

01:13:48.940 their issues in a box costume all right so you said they they always learn to play the victim

01:13:54.300 this select group of people and they complain about erasure okay i've just got to touch on this adam

01:14:00.360 so you know how the oxford um it's let me just get the actual title because they've invited me to go

01:14:07.420 out there quite a few times it's not actual oxford the oxford debates it's not actual oxford it's like

01:14:13.440 an offshoot but it's it's on campus i think in any event they brought on this woman former professor

01:14:19.120 at the university of sussex named kathleen stock and she's great she's a warrior she wrote a book uh in

01:14:25.400 2021 called material girls why reality matters for feminism and it was critical of this crazed

01:14:32.180 ideology we've been discussing um she essentially lost her job because nobody would support her she

01:14:37.880 got so dangerous for her on campus that the police warned her to stay away for her own safety said

01:14:43.260 install security measures at your home in the wake of this book which did not say anything beyond what

01:14:48.120 you and i are discussing and um her local union refused to support her and she basically had

01:14:53.660 enough and she peaced out well they invited her at the oxford union to go and debate these issues

01:14:59.380 because it's getting a little bit more okay oxford union is called at oxford university to discuss it

01:15:04.440 she so she went but not without a protest about her even appearing and the protest got so loud and

01:15:10.720 vociferous um that the prime minister had to weigh in in her defense saying hello rishi shunek came out

01:15:16.940 and said it is wrong for a vocal few to shut down discussion you got to let her speak just my god

01:15:22.420 get a hold of yourself people so hundreds of people showed up and there were the other side was

01:15:27.520 represented you know it's not like she just had a platform to say whatever she wanted which would

01:15:32.440 have been fine but they were represented listen to what happened um they set up welfare rooms

01:15:41.740 in an oxford college for the trans activist protesters who were distressed even if they

01:15:47.760 hadn't attended the talk just distressed through the air if it had wafted over somehow they hadn't

01:15:53.400 heard a word of it they were just distressed it was happening uh in an email an lgbtq plus society

01:15:59.300 representative told students we have set up welfare rooms if you cannot get to it you can also go to

01:16:06.060 the backup welfare room so you haven't heard the speech you can go to a welfare room or the backup

01:16:13.340 welfare room how how strongly does it waft from the original speaker then they say that these rooms

01:16:20.980 will be operated by trained peer supporters and first aiders so you need first aid just in case you

01:16:28.920 need the vapors from the waft they will offer water bottles energy bars wait for it earplugs

01:16:37.440 from what they're already saying you can't hear even if you haven't heard the speech

01:16:44.660 this is the level we're at and of course they did complain of erasure saying we believe trans

01:16:52.760 students should not be made to debate their existence yeah i mean so this shows you the weakness

01:17:01.400 of the of the so-called enemy we have nothing to worry about if you know if people the minute

01:17:06.160 something happens like i need my my special room or the backup room where i need some candy

01:17:10.320 um and and and the uk i mean rishi uh the prime minister is sunak is very very disingenuous the uk

01:17:19.640 has of course doesn't really have a constitution that says you know that you have a absolute god

01:17:25.860 given right to free speech uh people are getting arrested just for being mean on twitter so to me the

01:17:31.820 uk is completely lost and and this professor is absolutely right to leave uh she is what we would

01:17:37.880 consider the og turf you know trans radical exclusionary feminist um but this is the capture of the

01:17:46.100 uh of our institutions you know this comes from the endowments the endowments come from

01:17:50.620 big big institutions big foundations and they say okay here's a billion dollars but you can only use

01:17:56.900 this for certain type of studies and that would be you know your lgbtq or you know whatever issue you

01:18:03.240 have and in america we let this sneak in well you know while we were all looking at other things

01:18:08.540 maybe presidential elections seven eight years ago uh it started with a bullying and i remember

01:18:14.840 playing clips of oh you know we have to have bullying laws and i grew up as you did with sticks

01:18:20.640 and stones will break my bones names will never hurt me but that became a thing in schools you can't

01:18:25.820 bully and then from there it went to actual bullying laws and then we got hate laws now you're a lawyer

01:18:31.480 uh you know explain to me what a what a what a hate crime is or how a hate law works because a crime

01:18:38.620 is a crime and just by adding some term to it i think if you commit a crime against someone you're

01:18:44.680 hateful by definition we let this go and we just accepted that and that's and we're also americans

01:18:50.340 are good people i can't speak for the british although i live there i had a good time but you know

01:18:55.100 we're always like yeah just let everyone do their thing you know but we got taken advantage of

01:18:59.280 you know it's like okay so now we have to stand up and say no this is stupid and ridiculous and we

01:19:04.540 kind of have to turn the clock back on this whole hate thing because that's being codified into law

01:19:09.640 somehow i'd love for you to explain to me how that works yeah well of course it's like taking a terrible

01:19:14.680 crime and trait making it's super terrible it's super terrible so there has been an extra level of

01:19:19.380 punishment and now that has trickled down to just hate speech needs to be disallowed needs to be and

01:19:25.420 and there are a large number of young people today who believe hate speech is not protected

01:19:32.020 by the first amendment that somehow it's unconstitutional to say hateful things as if

01:19:39.500 the founders said all the lovely sweet nothings that people are going to whisper those need protection

01:19:44.640 we got to make sure we have a whole amendment number one to protect all the lovely things that

01:19:48.820 people want to say that everyone's going to agree with it's just so bass backwards fine first amendment

01:19:53.200 great make a new amendment that hate you know hate speech is not protected by the way make a new

01:19:59.200 make something against the second amendment that you know that's the system we don't teach civics i guess

01:20:04.260 but it's real easy you know it's a very simple process it's known it's laid out no instead we're going

01:20:09.980 to first thing we need to do is discredit one of the three branches of government we've got to make

01:20:14.080 sure everyone knows the supreme court is just no good it's worthless just look at that guy and that's

01:20:20.060 you know clarence thomas of course i mean the it will not i don't i can never see this happening

01:20:25.580 um are we maybe if we devolve into idiocracy maybe that movie will come true i sure hope not

01:20:31.740 um but this is all just attack after attack and honestly the news media the news in general doesn't

01:20:37.920 report it fairly doesn't report it accurately what is actually going on and the fact that you're right

01:20:42.980 that young people even believe now because they've been so psyoped into it that hate speech is illegal

01:20:50.680 is crazy well you're raising good points that lead me beautifully to my next point the media

01:20:57.580 this hate rhetoric um desantis and trump i'm going to tell you what they're now saying right after a

01:21:03.940 quick break and we'll get back uh into the media messaging if you didn't think they were going to try

01:21:08.160 to make desantis into the new trump you weren't paying attention but i know you saw it coming

01:21:13.260 stand by donald trump has shown himself to be the most reprehensible and dangerous of presidents

01:21:21.980 in the history of the united states a dangerous dangerous most dangerous president donald trump is

01:21:28.060 the most dangerous person to the republican party it would be a very dangerous devastating and destructive

01:21:34.300 thing if donald trump got anywhere close to 1600 pennsylvania avenue he's a dangerous person now

01:21:41.460 he wasn't dangerous before he was only dangerous to people who would believe him very dangerous very

01:21:46.160 dangerous in your view is donald trump dangerous absolutely and the last thing the united states needs

01:21:51.840 to do is to elect somebody like trump and very frankly it would be very dangerous for the world

01:21:57.280 very dangerous dangerous what he has laid out is the most dangerous reckless approach to being

01:22:04.280 president than i think we've ever seen the most dangerous man ever to run for president the

01:22:09.180 united states i believe that hmm welcome back to the megan kelly show adam curry host of the no

01:22:15.260 agenda show podcast is with me today so that was some of the messaging about trump uh back when he was

01:22:21.760 running the first time and i think there were some second time thoughts in there too the most number one

01:22:28.060 number one most dangerous ever to run and then number one day yeah you're number one um and then came

01:22:36.220 the belief amongst some in the republican party that they needed to switch him out too many issues too much

01:22:42.760 baggage the messaging it's crazy maybe we can upgrade to somebody who won't be attackable in that way

01:22:49.200 enter ron de santis problem solved or is it here's the latest messaging courtesy of

01:22:56.300 msnbc medi hassan's show and commentator former republican congressman david jolly

01:23:02.820 i say this with conviction i think ron de santis is far more dangerous than donald trump ron de santis

01:23:08.040 i believe actually in his ethos is a culture warrior who wants to take us back a hundred years ultimately

01:23:13.180 has a very dark vision of what america will be ron de santis tonight a very dark figure on the

01:23:19.860 political landscape far more dangerous than donald trump far far more dangerous adam got it he's dark

01:23:27.420 and dangerous megan oh fun trick on your microphone i don't know yes thanks

01:23:33.220 well this is how it's gonna go i mean this is first of all we need to give thanks to president

01:23:42.240 trump for what he did give us he showed us fake news he showed us what the media was really doing

01:23:49.460 i think that was important i know he was not kind to you so you know that we got past that i i think

01:23:56.320 you are um but he also put in um uh federal judges and did uh stack the supreme court it's not it's not

01:24:03.460 really a right or left thing for me uh but this just shows you that the only thing the media or the

01:24:09.420 politics can resort to is doing this in the media and there's danger to this the what we've created

01:24:16.600 now is a whole generation of zoomers gen zers who've just become apathetic they don't care they've

01:24:22.760 checked out you know the uh where you might have gotten some people to vote in the uh in the first in

01:24:28.260 that dangerous election uh this generation is not interested they're not engaged they don't care

01:24:33.500 they've checked out they also don't care that they're being tracked by silicon valley we've just

01:24:38.200 created a generation of um people who've withdrawn from that um what i'm afraid of is what is happening

01:24:46.860 by focusing purely on the presidential election and and a hand in my own bosom for in the 80s and 90s

01:24:54.680 uh you know i was you know at mtv i was making money i'm doing things having a good time building

01:25:00.120 career uh city council losers you couldn't get anything better like school board yeah whatever

01:25:06.460 and we got into this place where now we have a very very sick culture in uh all over in these in

01:25:15.140 local uh offices and even here in fredericksburg i live in fredericksburg texas it's a beautiful

01:25:20.740 you know like you could be not not could not be more americana 15 000 people you know founded by

01:25:27.360 by germans and in the weekend we grow to 50 000 with tourism for our wineries uh but even here

01:25:34.260 we had books in school that were just not appropriate for children of forget anything just

01:25:40.540 not appropriate you know bringing in therapists no no no so you have to remain very vigilant this i

01:25:47.140 think is what happened to california california was a red state but when you get all these little

01:25:52.020 little local things this is also the george soros method you know put in put in district attorneys

01:25:57.700 who will do certain things and follow certain methodologies if you don't pay attention to what's

01:26:03.440 happening locally you're going to wind up in trouble and this if anything the presidential election is

01:26:10.120 distracting people from what's happening locally so yes it's important and yeah but again the president

01:26:16.320 doesn't hold some magic wand president trump couldn't do everything he wants in fact a lot of stuff he

01:26:21.780 wanted to do he couldn't do and neither will the president de santis or even a president michelle

01:26:26.600 obama i mean we have to stay very vigilant in our local communities we're still the united states of

01:26:33.420 america we have the 14th amendment we have a lot of power uh over uh and that's what the whole

01:26:39.680 constitution is about or the the bill of rights these amendments it's telling federal government what

01:26:45.520 they cannot do and i wish people would remind their children of this the first amendment doesn't give

01:26:50.900 you the right to free speech no it tells the government they can't stop you it's a god-given

01:26:55.860 right these are the things that we need to stay vigilant on and remember particularly in our own

01:27:00.960 communities no you're right you're right 100 right i mean oh 100 you said it oh yeah sorry i didn't why

01:27:08.260 do we hate that term again just because it's carol uses it that's why she's always using it that's

01:27:13.100 why it irks me can i ask you why i mean i used to be friends with her but we're not friends

01:27:17.960 anymore but why why do you not like her well she is my hate listen i listened to her and scott

01:27:23.200 galloway because she's disingenuous and bad it's really bad for america the things she says and the

01:27:29.760 things that she's standing for is the exact opposite of what someone in her position should

01:27:34.400 be doing it's not a political thing i mean she makes it into a political thing but no i mean and i

01:27:39.480 hate to pick on her but you know if you saw uh omg o'keefe media group's latest uh expose which i thought

01:27:45.740 was brilliant talking to john fetterman one of john fetterman's uh assistants and he literally

01:27:51.400 was saying you know we get we we have access journalism so we get the real puppets who will do

01:27:57.100 anything just to get access and he said it was uh scarborough from msnbc it was pod save america and

01:28:03.520 he said the absolute best you can get to say anything is kara swisher so she's just not a great

01:28:08.740 journalist okay so back on on point what i think is interesting about the trump is so dangerous

01:28:15.420 narrative is it does speak to this terrible media and how they make up their mind on what the

01:28:21.340 narrative will be and then they will mind control you right up to the voting booth at least they'll

01:28:25.900 try so we heard the narrative there as i mean that was everybody on the left every it was cnn msnbc

01:28:31.060 all of them um even you know some former republicans in there and now it's desantis and by the way it

01:28:36.540 wasn't just that guy on medi hassan here's cnn on may 25th why desantis is just as dangerous as trump

01:28:43.020 or more may 17th huffington post no one is more dangerous for the white house than ron desantis ron

01:28:50.200 de dangerous they're gonna be starting they're gonna call it dangerous okay um so this is the new

01:28:56.520 and then there was this uh there's a writer on substack named paul thacker who tweeted out if trump

01:29:00.280 is hitler but desantis is more dangerous than trump then who is desantis satan trying to

01:29:06.520 keep all the labels in order here but then enter msnbc again just as a reminder because trump is up

01:29:14.080 30 points in most of these polls over desantis he's still very dangerous himself he hasn't gotten

01:29:19.900 less dangerous and by the way it's not just trump mike pence he is dangerous none of these people

01:29:25.060 should even be platformed they're all too dangerous to be platformed or discussed at all

01:29:29.580 here is a clip from msnbc's katie fangs show listen to this what does it tell you that donald trump is

01:29:37.940 actually going to be doing a town hall that's going to air and it's going to be on fox news

01:29:41.980 mike pence he's going to have a cnn town hall what does it tell you that there are media outlets that

01:29:46.860 are providing platforms for potential gop primary candidates to be able to get out and i guess sell

01:29:52.020 their wares i mean so extremely dangerous katie that they're normalizing the former president that

01:29:58.440 was impeached twice and they're acting as if as if you know it's business as usual politics as usual no

01:30:04.100 we are on really the last line of defense here for our democracy and our freedoms and it's extremely

01:30:10.880 dangerous so extremely dangerous to platform people like mike pence or the man who's 30 points

01:30:17.560 up in capturing the gop nomination yeah i mean this i think this is why uh tucker and don lemon

01:30:25.040 actually both on the same day were fired this was a message to the media it was and to fox news more

01:30:30.600 than anything we've got you we we do not care if you don't toe the line we'll get rid of you even if

01:30:36.200 you're tucker carlson you know don lemon arguably was on the way out but you know he he was a staple at

01:30:41.020 cnn and the message was just clear you toe the party line and that's the money line it always is

01:30:46.660 and if you don't then you're going to be gone and we don't care about whatever statue you have no

01:30:51.720 matter how important you think you are and that's the media for you which again brings us back to

01:30:56.260 thank god for the megan kelly show wow and also yours but there's so many now popping up that are

01:31:02.680 like absolutely invaluable i got started with ben shapiro who's one of my dear friends too and i

01:31:08.080 learn so much from him all the time and everybody's got a different voice that's one of the things i love

01:31:11.400 about it too it's not like turning into fox where you sort of get the same messaging all day

01:31:14.940 you know other than tucker when he was there sure you get you get differing viewpoints like you have

01:31:19.600 a differing viewpoint on some of the stuff we do and i like that i'm learning causes me to challenge

01:31:23.700 my own views you know like we talked about before i hear back from my audience they give me different

01:31:27.700 angles and i love all of it um one just final point on it then you get um the new republic writing

01:31:32.840 a piece why trump 24 is far more dangerous than trump 16 so trump's still dangerous actually more

01:31:38.620 dangerous but maybe not quite as dangerous as desantis just for those of you playing at home all right i've

01:31:43.920 got to end on this tara reed tara reed not the actress but the joe biden accuser came forward

01:31:52.200 in 2020 to say that when she worked as an aide for senator joe biden when he was running for president

01:31:58.040 at this time he had sexually assaulted her in um in a business capacity in the u.s senate i went out

01:32:04.660 there during covid everything was shut down i flew to see her i interviewed her we put it on my youtube

01:32:08.820 channel my first offering on my youtube channel one of them i think and um

01:32:13.920 then and there was some discussion about whether she was a little too in love with putin based on

01:32:18.940 some of the writings that she had written by that point i asked her about it a bit and she was

01:32:24.600 completely dismissed and discredited and attacked by the left right they're all about believe all

01:32:29.740 women and unless you're attacking the leader for the democratic nomination in which case you will be

01:32:34.200 destroyed and boy did they they did everything to tara reed it was very sad what they did to her

01:32:38.940 well she was about to go before congress and testify about what joe biden did to her and maybe some

01:32:47.020 other things too i'm i'm unclear on it i'm getting clear in in front of a hearing that was being

01:32:51.240 organized by matt gates switch to she has defected to russia she did a press conference yesterday from

01:33:01.780 moscow saying i'm asking vladimir putin for citizenship i'm not safe in the united states

01:33:08.480 and um i i will testify but i have been told by matt gates that i could be in danger in the united

01:33:16.700 states i want to tell our audience she's coming on the show exclusively tomorrow we're we're going

01:33:21.200 to talk to her from moscow which ought to be kind of interesting right so i'll ask her all the

01:33:25.620 questions people are saying she's been a russian agent all along but what do you make of this

01:33:29.420 extraordinary turn of events well first of all um i think it's really sad she was used as a

01:33:35.180 political football you know this was announced in march she was going to testify clearly to um use

01:33:40.620 this as uh weaponization against the current president in the presidential election then she

01:33:46.120 gets told oh by the way we can't really protect you um i'd be afraid uh in that case now i personally

01:33:53.600 believe having been to moscow before the wall came down i know you and i disagree on putin but

01:33:58.720 leave him out of it for a second uh russians and americans have no beef with each other i don't

01:34:03.200 see anyone hating the russian people i don't see the russian people hating americans we are in fact

01:34:07.940 very much alike we we stand for a lot of the same values and uh you have to understand that maria

01:34:14.580 butina is the one who apparently brought her over and maria butina um really is pro-america and uh if

01:34:22.300 you look at her history with patrick byrne from overstock and how that all went down essentially she

01:34:26.720 um she was arrested because she admitted she was you know a foreign agent who wasn't registered which

01:34:32.120 is like half of washington is you know it violates the farah act i think this if anything was more of

01:34:38.180 an outreach from uh the russian people the russian because maria butina is now um a representative in

01:34:44.540 russia i think it was an outreach to say hey you know what just like snowden we kind of believe in

01:34:50.340 the freedoms that america should have and um maybe we should think more about that and less about

01:34:56.700 you know what we're trying to do to the current president or a new president i see it as in general

01:35:01.820 positive but it has to and i'd love for you to ask her about that because i feel like there's something

01:35:06.140 very important going on there i will i mean i'm i'm fascinated by what made her make this decision

01:35:13.840 the media of course does exactly what it's going to do which is pile on more but she's got a daughter

01:35:18.640 back here she's got all these animals she loves and tara reed is she's not a nutcase you know she's

01:35:25.180 been beaten up um she doesn't like joe biden for sure and i can't wait to find out exactly what made

01:35:31.760 her take this drastic step she says she would like to be able to come back and forth between the

01:35:35.820 countries she would like to feel safe here but doesn't so we'll get into all of it adam you always

01:35:40.320 have unique insights it's a pleasure to see you again thanks for coming on thank you megan i appreciate

01:35:45.060 the invitation yeah and don't forget folks tune in tomorrow because tara reed will be with us

01:35:49.360 thanks for listening to the megan kelly show no bs no agenda and no fear

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Budweiser's Permanently Tarnished Brand, DeSantis' Furry Battle, and Following the Culture War Money, with Adam Curry ｜ Ep. 562

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