The Megyn Kelly Show - Campus Antisemitism Chaos, Trump Trial Kicks Off, and Biden's Anti-Woman Title IX Rules, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson ｜ Ep. 772

00:00:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.100 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.300 Former President Donald Trump is back in court today.

00:00:18.060 This is it. Opening statements and potentially our first witness.

00:00:22.780 An abbreviated day though, so far, because one of the jurors had a toothache.

00:00:27.300 So court is expected to adjourn early today so that the person can get to the dentist.

00:00:34.100 I mean, we've all been there. It's tough to function in the face of an aching tooth.

00:00:38.980 But we've got opening statements underway right now, and of course the media is back.

00:00:43.140 They're back to their bizarre reporting about their favorite target, including one report about alleged flatulence in the court.

00:00:51.040 Objection, Your Honor! Objection, flatulence.

00:00:54.020 Just when you think it can't get any stranger or stinkier, apparently it does. 0.76

00:01:03.240 Meanwhile, elsewhere in New York City, oh my gosh, have you been following what's been happening at Columbia and Yale?

00:01:09.160 Don't send your child there. My God. Especially if you're Jewish. 1.00

00:01:13.540 I mean, if you happen to worry about, like, your child's safety and he happens to be Jewish, 1.00

00:01:18.840 Columbia University is not the place for you.

00:01:22.280 It's now in campus, in chaos on campus, as anti-Jewish protesters are literally attacking students.

00:01:29.620 Even the Biden administration is condemning it, finally, through a spokesperson, not through Joe Biden.

00:01:37.420 While many in the press try to pretend it's really just not happening, it's not a thing.

00:01:41.060 Don't worry, look over there. Nothing to see here.

00:01:42.900 Joining me now, the EJs, Emily Jashinsky, who is culture editor at The Federalist and host at The Federalist Radio Hour,

00:01:49.980 and Eliana Johnson, who's editor-in-chief at the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the Ink Stained Wretches podcast.

00:01:59.440 Ladies, welcome back. 1.00

00:02:01.400 All right, let's kick it off with Trump, because that's happening right now, though there's plenty to get to on these campuses and beyond.

00:02:08.540 And here's the update. They started off the morning ruling on, it's called a Sandoval hearing in New York State.

00:02:16.120 It's a special thing in New York where the judge and the lawyers sit down and they go over what the prosecution will be allowed to confront the defendant with if he takes the stand.

00:02:28.140 So that the defense knows exactly how bad it's going to get in terms of his past bad acts.

00:02:34.880 And they can hash it out, prosecution and defense attorneys, before the prosecutor tries it.

00:02:42.720 And basically everything is in except for Trump's cheating on a math test back in the fourth grade.

00:02:48.740 So it's basically a total green light for every alleged bad act in Trump's past.

00:02:57.180 He can be confronted by the ruling against him in the civil fraud case brought by Letitia James, the $474 million judgment.

00:03:06.960 He can be confronted with the findings of his gag order violations in his civil fraud case, not just this case, in the civil fraud case.

00:03:15.880 He can be confronted with the, with two federal juries findings that he defamed E. Jean Carroll, not the sexual abuse liability, but the defamation liability.

00:03:30.660 Good luck to the Trump team in trying to explain or whatever team's going to be charged with this, what he defamed her about.

00:03:39.920 How are they going to get in that he defamed her without getting into the underlying allegation?

00:03:47.180 She said he sexually abused her. 1.00

00:03:49.000 He said she's a lunatic. 0.99

00:03:50.880 And then she sued him for defamation and won on both. 0.93

00:03:53.980 So I think this is a little too cute by half.

00:03:57.380 It's a way of getting a both end, but trying to seem fair because he excluded sexual abuse finding.

00:04:03.140 Trump can also be confronted with his agreement to dissolve the Trump foundation.

00:04:07.320 Uh, the judge said he will allow prosecutors to introduce Donald Trump's infamous access Hollywood tape into evidence, not the tape itself, but the transcript so they can get, grab them by the P word in there.

00:04:22.220 I mean, so basically Trump can't testify is the first effective ruling of the day because Emily, all he's going to be doing is trying to prove to the jury.

00:04:33.200 I'm not a bad person.

00:04:35.040 There's a reason in the law we exclude character evidence as a role because you're not trying somebody on whether they're a good person or a bad person.

00:04:42.840 OJ Simpson seemed like a perfectly nice person when he sat there to be tried for nearly beheading his ex-wife and Ron Goldman.

00:04:50.360 The trial wasn't actually about that.

00:04:52.480 It was about whether there was proof beyond a reasonable doubt about whether he committed this crime.

00:04:56.960 Your character doesn't say whether you did it or didn't.

00:04:59.260 Here in New York, we're going to allow a trial in Donald Trump's character.

00:05:03.640 And he's been in business so long and has been such a colorful character for long enough that he really can't effectively allow that to happen, which means he can't take the stand.

00:05:12.280 But what do you think?

00:05:13.760 Yeah, I mean, I agree with that completely.

00:05:15.160 It just also seems like such a great use of everyone's time just going through the annals of Donald Trump's various expressions of his own personal character.

00:05:23.660 I think that will serve the public very well at this point.

00:05:26.520 He has been so shy to reveal his true self up until now.

00:05:30.060 But maybe, maybe finally they will get to the bottom of it here.

00:05:33.260 I'm also wondering how real this toothache is, because I would honestly, if I were sitting and listening to this, probably spontaneously have a toothache as well.

00:05:43.140 But, you know, I agree with exactly what you're saying here.

00:05:46.280 And I think also it's important to remember that this is clearly a tactic.

00:05:50.520 Liz Cheney has an op-ed in the New York Times opinion page today talking about how important this trial is.

00:05:56.960 And you're starting to see, I think it was Pramila Jayapal said on a Sunday show just yesterday, something to an extent as, you know, we wouldn't have even been here if Donald Trump had just been impeached.

00:06:07.520 So what's also on trial, I think, are the tactics of the left here.

00:06:10.720 And the more that we're sort of putting Donald Trump's character on trial after, you know, everybody has had years and years and years to listen to a trial of Donald Trump's character, the left is going to lose in that sort of court of public opinion ruling.

00:06:23.840 This just in, Pecker's up.

00:06:29.340 Sorry, had to do it.

00:06:30.540 That was like a New York Post headline.

00:06:33.400 Had to do it.

00:06:34.440 Is it New York Post?

00:06:35.740 I missed that this morning.

00:06:36.820 I got it from Steve Krakauer.

00:06:38.080 No, I'm saying you should write the New York Post headline.

00:06:40.480 Oh, yeah, no, Steve Krakauer should do it.

00:06:43.840 Pecker's up.

00:06:44.560 He's on the stand.

00:06:45.260 David Pecker, I think now former head of AEI, or not AEI, AMI, American Media, which, yeah.

00:06:54.140 Very different.

00:06:56.040 Very, very different.

00:06:58.560 They finished the opening statement.

00:07:00.000 After Trump got all those negative rulings on what can come in if he takes a stand, they did opening statements.

00:07:06.260 And now the first witness for the prosecution is David Pecker.

00:07:10.020 There's a lot to go over here.

00:07:11.140 Before we get to Pecker, because I know you ladies love Pecker. 1.00

00:07:14.780 What?

00:07:15.080 I can't.

00:07:17.440 I can't stop myself.

00:07:18.840 I don't know if we should blame you or Steve.

00:07:22.660 That one was me.

00:07:25.060 Okay.

00:07:26.280 The prosecutor.

00:07:27.280 I'm going to give you guys and the audience just an overview of what's being said in opening statements.

00:07:31.460 Just keep in mind, as you listen to this, there's a reason they call them opening statements, and then they call what happens at the end closing arguments.

00:07:39.860 You're allowed to argue the evidence in your closing.

00:07:43.280 Opening statements are supposed to be just statements of what you will be proving in front of them without tying, you know, fantastic conclusions together and stitching a narrative and so on.

00:07:55.260 The opening statements are supposed to be factual and not argument.

00:07:58.840 So this is what the prosecution says they are going to be able to prove, Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo.

00:08:05.300 He begins by telling the jury that Trump, and just for the listening audience, there's no audio, there's no video.

00:08:10.600 So this is the only way we can get through this trial.

00:08:12.640 We get updates from the court, and then we have to read them to you.

00:08:14.960 That's why I did a dramatic reenactment of the press coverage the other day.

00:08:19.020 Begins by telling the jury Trump lied over and over and over again by disguising his business records.

00:08:24.820 Trump, Michael Cohen, and David Pecker formed a conspiracy at a meeting early in the campaign to help Trump get elected.

00:08:35.420 Colangelo has referred multiple times to this conspiracy between these three men.

00:08:39.260 For the record, Trump is not, he is not charged with conspiracy.

00:08:42.920 It's just a colorful term to describe.

00:08:45.900 They met and reached an agreement about what the National Enquirer and other magazines within the AMI empire would do when it came to Trump.

00:08:55.560 The New York Times reports, let's see.

00:08:59.060 Okay, they're talking about how the National Enquirer did indeed go on to try to help Trump's campaign in 2016,

00:09:06.580 including by embarrassing some of his opponents, like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.

00:09:11.100 They put up a couple of the headlines, reports of the New York Times, Jonah Bromwich, I see one juror smiling slightly, as Colangelo describes some of those headlines.

00:09:22.580 Remember, they accused Ted Cruz of his father of participating in the Kennedy assassination.

00:09:30.140 It was a long list.

00:09:30.940 Okay, they say, the prosecution, Pecker, will testify that $150,000 was more than the National Enquirer would typically pay for such a deal,

00:09:41.880 and that Pecker had trouble being reimbursed for the money.

00:09:45.820 Crucially, Colangelo says Pecker will testify that he spoke to Trump about it.

00:09:50.700 Forgive me for not understanding the math on the $150,000.

00:09:53.320 Stormy, I think, was paid $130,000.

00:09:55.920 I think they paid $30,000 to a doorman at Trump Tower.

00:09:59.240 And then there was another, it might have been $150,000 to Karen McDougal, who was the Playboy playmate.

00:10:04.600 So, you know, what's that, $330,000 or so all in?

00:10:07.900 Now, critically, they say that David Pecker is going to testify he spoke to Trump about this, so he's going to put it first person.

00:10:15.680 You know, I can tell you Trump was in on it, because this is all the alleged election interference that they claim Trump was up to.

00:10:23.900 Give me a couple of other, give me one more minute to lay this out.

00:10:27.180 He says he has an audio recording, the prosecution does, regarding Cohen, Michael Cohen, that Cohen made, between himself and Mr. Trump, discussing the Karen McDougal deal.

00:10:38.180 She was the Playboy playmate of the year in 98, with whom Trump allegedly had an extramarital affair.

00:10:43.520 The National Enquirer paid her off to write, quote, health columns for the National Enquirer.

00:10:49.020 She never wrote any.

00:10:50.860 This was really a payment, they say, to keep her quiet instead of going public with the affair.

00:10:55.740 Ultimately, the National Enquirer assigned a reporter to write the articles and put her name on them.

00:11:01.820 Okay.

00:11:03.080 Jurors will hear Trump, the prosecution promises, in his own voice, urging that this money, the $150,000, be repaid in cash.

00:11:17.100 I'm not sure I understand what that means.

00:11:18.940 Be repaid in cash to whom?

00:11:20.960 The National Enquirer is paying her the $150,000.

00:11:23.260 And I know that the Michael Cohen payment to Stormy was out of a Michael Cohen payment, and then he got repaid, he says, by Trump.

00:11:32.120 This does not connect Trump to the actual crime, which only relates to a payment to Stormy Daniels.

00:11:37.220 Okay, sorry, getting confusing.

00:11:38.740 But anyway, they're saying that this pattern of paying off Karen McDougal suggests a pattern of behavior that prosecutors will urge the jurors to take into account.

00:11:47.700 Make assumptions about Trump's involvement in the payment to Daniels based on what he did with McDougal.

00:11:53.820 He also, the prosecutor, described a communication from Keith Davidson, the lawyer for Karen McDougal, to Dylan Howard.

00:11:59.920 This is the guy actually running the National Enquirer under David Pecker, the owner.

00:12:03.920 As it became clear that Trump was winning the election.

00:12:07.040 This is where Karen McDougal's lawyer says to Dylan Howard, as it became clear what Trump was winning, what have we done?

00:12:16.320 And then Colangelo says it was election fraud, pure and simple.

00:12:20.680 This is their theory, they're covering up an affair, like you have some obligation to let your affair partners come out and humiliate you.

00:12:26.700 Otherwise, it's election interference.

00:12:27.940 Okay, so Eliana, if you ever run for office and something bad in your past comes back to haunt you and somebody says, I'm going to tell everybody about how you cheated on some math tests, which we know Eliana Johnson never did.

00:12:41.580 You can't do anything to make them go away.

00:12:43.860 Otherwise, it's election interference.

00:12:45.100 You have to sit there and let yourself be embarrassed, whether it's true or not.

00:12:48.280 Otherwise, you could wind up in New York State Supreme.

00:12:50.980 So I'll stop there for now.

00:12:52.700 What do you make of this theory of the case and how it's going so far?

00:12:57.940 So I'll stipulate that I am not a lawyer.

00:13:00.880 However, I am familiar and I've talked to folks who are familiar with the defense, the Trump side's legal strategy here. 0.60

00:13:09.580 It's pretty clear to me that the prosecution's goal is to throw the kitchen sink at Trump and make the case that he's a bad, skeezy person.

00:13:17.440 Look, we know all of this stuff, and I think the defense is going to try to focus very narrowly on the crime for which Trump is being prosecuted.

00:13:28.340 And they're going to argue it is not actually illegal to have an affair with someone and then sign an NDA.

00:13:35.460 That is not illegal.

00:13:38.520 People sign NDAs in the course of business all the time.

00:13:41.280 And the challenge, I think, for the prosecution is going to be to prove that Trump personally ordered whoever the person was in the Trump organization, some junior person.

00:13:58.220 And I believe that guy is going to testify to falsify those business records, that he had control over how the record of this transaction was entered when he got a bill from Michael Cohen.

00:14:11.300 And that, therefore, Trump personally was responsible for the falsification of that record.

00:14:18.620 So it's a lot more complicated, I think, than the prosecution is presenting it, which is Trump's a bad, skeezy guy and does bad, skeezy things and all that stuff is illegal.

00:14:29.040 But they're clearly trying to paint a larger picture and obscure what I think is like a pretty minor, flimsy and weak case.

00:14:38.960 And there's a reason that Alvin Bragg's predecessor did not bring this case.

00:14:45.300 The defense is going to say that they can't tie any of this to Trump, that apparently he's going to argue that Trump repaid Michael Cohen, that one hundred and thirty thousand dollar check that Cohen cut to Stormy, that Trump repaid Michael Cohen for legal expenses or legal retainer, I think is how it was listed in his business records, four hundred and twenty.

00:15:05.220 So he's making the argument. Ask yourself, would a frugal businessman like Donald Trump, would a man who pinches pennies like that repay a one hundred and thirty thousand dollar debt to the tune of four hundred and twenty thousand?

00:15:17.360 That's what the defense got up to say. And they went on to say this follows.

00:15:21.060 President Trump is innocent. President Trump did not commit any crimes.

00:15:24.300 He's doing what any of us would do. They say the story you were just told by the prosecution is simply not true.

00:15:31.140 He says, let's see, that money that he gave to Michael Cohen was not a payback.

00:15:39.400 He was President Trump's personal attorney.

00:15:41.500 So they are going to dispute that the monies Trump paid to Cohen were reimbursement for whatever was paid to Stormy.

00:15:49.540 And they're going to be relying on Michael Cohen's testimony that there was a deal between Trump and Cohen that Trump would use one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to pay off Stormy and he would do it through Cohen.

00:16:02.220 That's how they tie it around Trump.

00:16:04.100 He says in closing, well, in closing to this particular piece, I have a spoiler alert.

00:16:11.020 There's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election.

00:16:14.480 It's called democracy.

00:16:17.300 I mean, I like that.

00:16:19.280 It's true.

00:16:20.100 That's what they do.

00:16:20.980 They do all day long.

00:16:22.060 They try to get elected.

00:16:22.800 The point is, though, if he paid money to get himself elected and he didn't document it as a campaign expense, it could potentially be a campaign finance violation.

00:16:36.200 Emily, it's not in this case, because as former FEC election officials have told us on this show,

00:16:43.960 it's not a campaign finance violation unless the only reason one would ever pay it is to advance one's political interests.

00:16:55.900 If it has a dual purpose like that.

00:16:58.560 Plus, I'd love it if Melania didn't know or that.

00:17:01.620 Plus, I really don't want to be embarrassed with the public knowing I slept with Stormy Daniels.

00:17:05.980 Then it's not a campaign finance finance expense, which is undoubtedly why the feds also refused to bring this case.

00:17:15.840 Despite being very eager to bring a case.

00:17:18.800 Yeah, I think that's important.

00:17:19.760 The absolute crux of the case is that it has to be the only reason for the payment.

00:17:25.180 And if they had classified it, actually, as a campaign expense, who knows what legal routes the left would have pursued to challenge that, actually.

00:17:32.960 So that's another interesting question.

00:17:34.480 That's so true.

00:17:37.360 I mean, there's an argument that there's nothing that he could have done in order to prevent his wife.

00:17:42.900 Again, this is the hypothetical.

00:17:44.740 Let's say you'll concede Donald Trump's argument here.

00:17:47.420 If you give him the most charitable version of this, it never happened and he just didn't want Melania to have to deal with the pain, which is certainly legally an argument that he can make because nobody's in his head.

00:17:59.380 And unless they have documentation proving otherwise, that this was only the specific reason that this happened was just for one thing, the campaign only.

00:18:08.600 Now, that may be the case, but can they actually prove that it was the only, only reason?

00:18:14.320 That's highly unlikely.

00:18:15.740 And it feels silly to even bring the questions about Michael Cohen as a witness into this because it's the case.

00:18:22.980 I mean, you have to go through so many layers of ridiculousness just to get to how the jury is going to look at Michael Cohen.

00:18:28.160 But that is another legitimate question.

00:18:30.160 It's one that the Trump defense is obviously going to raise over and over again, the credibility of his testimony.

00:18:36.120 If he is what this is all hinging on, if he's the one who can say that was the only reason for the payment, does it matter to the jury?

00:18:43.640 If it's coming from Michael Cohen, I don't know.

00:18:46.520 But yeah, this case is just weak all around.

00:18:48.740 We've known it for a year and it's just going to become increasingly clear as the process goes on.

00:18:52.560 That's so true because the normal way we get into arguments about campaign finance violations is when somebody tries to use campaign money to go buy themselves a suit for a presidential debate instead of their own money because they're cheapskates.

00:19:10.200 And then they get in trouble because that suit is not something that would only ever be purchased for a debate.

00:19:21.100 It's something that people purchase all the time for various reasons.

00:19:25.240 And the way it was explained to us by this former FEC guy was even if the person can say, yeah, but I never wear suits.

00:19:34.060 I literally only bought it for this debate.

00:19:36.820 It's not going to fly.

00:19:38.600 So they're like they don't have it.

00:19:41.420 They're trying to turn the hush money that was paid to Stormy into something that could could could have multiple purposes.

00:19:50.160 Right.

00:19:50.960 And that they that was actively being used to interfere with the election and only for that reason.

00:19:57.600 And I just don't think it's going to fly, at least if the jury comes to understand what the law is.

00:20:02.620 Here's a little bit more from the defense, Eliana.

00:20:06.760 Prosecutors, this is via New York Times, objected multiple times during the defense's opening statement.

00:20:12.040 That's bad form.

00:20:13.020 You're really not supposed to do that.

00:20:14.180 But unless it's egregious, there were two bench conferences that interrupted the state the opening.

00:20:19.300 That's also extraordinary.

00:20:20.400 In one, the defense attorney, Todd Blanche, tried to tell the jury that Michael Cohen has perjured himself.

00:20:27.740 The prosecution objected.

00:20:29.840 The objection was sustained.

00:20:33.060 It seems that Blanche, the Times goes on, Todd Blanche will not be allowed to accuse Cohen of perjury directly, but he will say that Cohen lied under oath.

00:20:42.400 The legal distinction may matter to some jurors, but the concept is likely more important as the defense team continues its efforts to undermine Cohen.

00:20:48.880 They're not going to care.

00:20:49.560 The jury's not going to care one bit, whether he lied under oath or whether he lied in a way that it amounted to a legal definition of perjury. 1.00

00:20:57.640 He's a liar. 0.99

00:20:59.000 He took a stand and lied. 1.00

00:21:01.240 That's all they need to hear.

00:21:03.360 Blanche brought up, that's Trump's lawyer, Stormy and Cohen.

00:21:08.280 He calls Stormy biased against Trump.

00:21:10.580 The money she made from the Cohen payoff was pure opportunism on her part. 0.91

00:21:14.460 Says she's made a lot of money since this story came out.

00:21:17.240 Of Michael Cohen, Blanche calls him a criminal. 0.91

00:21:20.140 He says Cohen has publicly called Trump a despicable human.

00:21:24.160 He says Michael Cohen, quote, wanted a job in the administration.

00:21:27.100 He didn't get one.

00:21:28.420 Offering a motive for Cohen's testimony against Trump.

00:21:31.240 And he equates the catch and kill scheme involves involving the National Enquirer alleged by prosecutors to ordinary editorial decisions made by newspapers.

00:21:41.200 I mean, you're the editor in chief of a news publication, Eliana.

00:21:45.420 You don't do catch and kill, but I don't think he's wrong.

00:21:50.340 I don't think he's wrong about that.

00:21:52.100 Like, look at the number of things we see the Biden administration has gotten killed or massaged in the press.

00:21:58.120 Over the past three plus years and when he was running as well.

00:22:02.380 By a complicit media who's who in return got the hopes of electing him.

00:22:08.020 Maybe they didn't get.

00:22:09.600 Oh, that's all.

00:22:10.480 I mean, that's all the National Enquirer got to David Pecker didn't get money.

00:22:14.380 He wanted Trump to win.

00:22:16.540 So he buried some stories and promoted others.

00:22:20.180 And that's exactly what the New York Times has done.

00:22:23.700 What NPR has just been outed is doing.

00:22:26.880 Like, how is it so incredibly different?

00:22:31.200 The Pecker and catch and kill thing, I think, is super interesting because there I have a couple of questions about it.

00:22:38.880 The first is you're right.

00:22:40.780 I think that raises questions about Pecker and the National Enquirer, which is not known as the most reputable news organization around.

00:22:49.080 But the question is, is it illegal?

00:22:52.040 So Trump had an arrangement with this guy.

00:22:54.340 But was it was there a legal issue with that?

00:22:57.480 And is that what this case is actually about?

00:23:00.620 I don't totally understand how they how that relates to me.

00:23:06.580 I guess my focus and what I've tried to wrap my head around is the NDA Trump struck with Stormy, how it was billed and represented within the Trump organization and whether that was a legitimate or not campaign expense.

00:23:23.380 And our friend, Andy McCarthy, is the one who has really helped me understand this by talking to him and listening to his podcast, where he distinguished between, as you were talking about, a campaign expense is polling, is something like that that literally would not have existed but for the campaign, an advertising there.

00:23:46.820 Or, as Emily said, there are lots of plausible reasons one could have signed an NDA with Stormy and paid her $130,000 to keep her mouth shut.

00:23:56.060 The campaign is one of them.

00:23:57.720 But there are lots of other reasons, too.

00:23:59.920 And then the second is Michael Cohen was Trump's lawyer.

00:24:04.880 An NDA is a legal agreement.

00:24:06.720 This was billed as legal fees.

00:24:08.680 They have to show that the entry in the Trump organization's docket of this agreement, the payment to Cohen as legal fees, was intended to cover up this campaign finance crime.

00:24:22.340 That's that's complicated.

00:24:24.980 And I think it this it's frustrating to say, but it's actually going to hinge on the jury being impartial and fair minded.

00:24:33.700 And I think that really is the challenge of this trial.

00:24:36.520 And my understanding of the how the defense is going into that is that is also the challenge that they see.

00:24:42.220 This is a hostile jury pool.

00:24:44.580 Manhattan had a, you know, like not a not a friendly jury pool to Trump.

00:24:50.480 And the real challenge of this of this is like getting the jurors to look at this with fresh eyes and to view Trump to view this on the merits.

00:24:59.800 OK, so to that point, we ran this soundbite last week and I encourage everybody to go back and listen to the whole episode.

00:25:06.860 But we had Brad Smith.

00:25:08.320 His name was he was appointed to the FEC under Bill Clinton.

00:25:12.540 All right.

00:25:13.060 He now is a Republican, but he was appointed by a Democrat.

00:25:16.280 He's a fair minded guy.

00:25:17.440 And he came on.

00:25:19.080 I don't know how long ago it was within the last year or so.

00:25:22.880 And episode five, two, two, five, two, two.

00:25:25.680 You can go back and listen to the full discussion.

00:25:27.240 Well worth your time.

00:25:27.920 And you'll learn.

00:25:28.400 Um, he explained it this way.

00:25:31.340 It's very clear.

00:25:31.940 Listen.

00:25:34.480 Stormy Daniels had the right to blackmail Donald Trump, whether he was running for office or not. 1.00

00:25:38.980 Trump could have paid it whether he was running for office or not.

00:25:41.300 So, you know, people could judge for themselves what they think of the behavior and so on.

00:25:45.400 And that's legitimate things for voters to look at.

00:25:47.540 But in terms of is it a violation of campaign finance law?

00:25:50.260 I just think the answer is no.

00:25:51.580 And I think we wouldn't want it to be yes.

00:25:53.440 That would open up a whole can of worms down the line. 0.97

00:25:55.540 Hold on.

00:25:57.680 There's another soundbite that I want to play that we ran the other day that's more explicit.

00:26:02.180 We're trying to find it.

00:26:03.040 We'll get it up in one second because it's this guy lays it all out very clearly.

00:26:07.080 Now, the question is, like, this jury is not going to have expert testimony on the law.

00:26:11.360 Right.

00:26:11.680 That's an argument you make to the judge when you're crafting your jury instructions.

00:26:15.800 Right.

00:26:16.000 Like.

00:26:17.420 Did this is where the lawyers go in behind the scene and say to the judge, this is how the jury should be instructed.

00:26:23.100 I would say the question is, did Trump pay off Stormy Daniels through Michael Cohen?

00:26:29.880 Number one.

00:26:30.520 OK, if yes, then if yes, was the purpose of paying off Stormy Daniels entirely to get himself elected?

00:26:46.360 If no, then proceed to not liable.

00:26:50.960 If yes, then proceed with asking additional questions.

00:26:54.180 OK, that's how it works for lawyers.

00:26:55.800 You've got to style it for the jury so that the law, the relevant law is baked in.

00:27:00.920 You don't ask the jury to figure out what the relevant law is.

00:27:04.000 That's the job of the judge and the lawyers.

00:27:07.600 We found the soundbite, Emily.

00:27:09.060 So this is this argument you're about to hear is the accurate statement of the law.

00:27:14.060 And what they need to do is find a way of getting this into the jury instructions to reflect what we're all talking about here.

00:27:19.840 Let's suppose I decide to run for Congress and I say, you know, I need to be in a debate and I need a really good suit.

00:27:28.540 So I go out and I spend, you know, two thousand dollars on a suit, which I would never otherwise do.

00:27:33.140 Right.

00:27:33.840 It doesn't make it a campaign expense, even though my purpose was to do it to influence the election.

00:27:39.440 Or suppose I'm an individual and I have a messy divorce in my background and I decide I'm going to run for office and I say to my lawyer, can we seal those records?

00:27:48.500 And I pay my lawyer to try to seal those divorce records, even though I'm doing it for the purpose of influencing a campaign.

00:27:53.860 It's not a campaign expenditure.

00:27:55.440 Because those are things you might do for non-election related purposes, as is paying off a lover whom you allegedly had had an affair with while your wife was pregnant.

00:28:11.500 That's the allegation here.

00:28:13.220 So I just don't see this.

00:28:15.640 Just I know the judge doesn't like Trump, but you know what judges don't like more than anything else?

00:28:19.800 It's getting reversed.

00:28:21.780 And the law is the law.

00:28:24.000 Like someone's actually going to have to take a look at these legal standards, which are black and white and easy to understand relatively.

00:28:30.760 And wrestle with this reality at some point, like it's it's one of the reasons why the case never should have been brought, frankly.

00:28:37.700 Yeah.

00:28:38.400 And Brad Smith writes such a good point there about also the potential ramifications for precedent down the road if you do this, because to your point, Megan,

00:28:46.100 say Donald Trump had classified these payments as campaign expenses, what would have happened then?

00:28:52.200 And what happens if this ruling comes down and says that it was improperly not classified?

00:28:58.180 What happens to those purchases people make that are intended to influence an election but are not exclusively election related?

00:29:06.600 And I suspect that there's going to be an argument made that Stormy Daniels herself wouldn't have needed to be paid off if Donald Trump hadn't run for president.

00:29:16.660 Therefore, this is all just about the campaign.

00:29:19.240 But that is also not a good argument because it brings it back to, oh, well, you would never have needed a suit if you hadn't decided to run for president.

00:29:27.000 I mean, it's just not good enough.

00:29:28.200 No, not at all, but that I mean, we can be really cynical and look at the jury and say, you know, it comes down on this area that voted 85 percent for Joe Biden over Donald Trump being able to assemble an impartial jury there.

00:29:42.980 I'm pretty cynical about that, honestly, but I know some people on the left are frustrated with Bragg for even bringing this case because they look at the other ones down the road and say, listen, we're talking about a potential hush money payoff to a porn star for Donald Trump, a man who was like actually planting stories about himself in the tabloids for years.

00:30:03.700 This is known to the American public long before he decided to run for president.

00:30:07.760 Meanwhile, they're trying to focus on January 6th cases, on documents cases. 0.54

00:30:12.160 I mean, it just it does look extremely silly next to all of that.

00:30:15.860 The media coverage continues to be a joke.

00:30:20.700 Brian Stelter just tweeted out a source close to Trump tells at Dana Bash CNN that he what he confessed?

00:30:29.280 He is mad at the world right now.

00:30:33.700 What? As he's being confined to a courtroom.

00:30:36.600 What the this is so absurd.

00:30:38.960 Eliana, you would fire somebody who works for you who sent out such a dramatic breaking.

00:30:42.760 Breaking was the headline.

00:30:44.380 He's mad at the world because he's confined.

00:30:47.160 Get a hold of yourself.

00:30:49.000 Trump reportedly struggling to stay awake and his lawyers yawned.

00:30:54.020 This is from The New York Times.

00:30:55.140 At least two of his lawyers have let out yawns this morning.

00:30:59.100 Poor legal team.

00:31:00.880 You mean they're human?

00:31:03.000 They're normal humans who sometimes in their early morning court hours yawn?

00:31:09.340 What else?

00:31:10.220 Blinking?

00:31:11.080 How's the breathing going?

00:31:12.780 Update to follow.

00:31:14.900 Okay.

00:31:15.740 That brings me to this soundbite.

00:31:18.640 It's from Bob Micellas of the Midas Touch.

00:31:23.500 And this is an interesting update he brought.

00:31:27.460 Hold on a second because this guy's, he's got some thoughts for you.

00:31:33.100 Okay.

00:31:33.680 He's the co-founder of the show, The Midas Touch.

00:31:38.460 He, let's see, it's a liberal political action committee formed in 2020 to stop Trump from getting reelected.

00:31:45.660 The guy's also a partner at Garagos and Garagos, so he knows our pal Mark well.

00:31:51.460 And he's also business partners with Colin Kaepernick and works across all of Kaepernick's ventures as well as his nonprofit.

00:31:57.920 So that's the guy you're about to hear, Ben, who's got some thoughts, some hot breaking news that you guys should hear firsthand.

00:32:05.320 Take a listen.

00:32:06.860 And I'm hearing from credible sources who know what's going on in the courtroom. 0.98

00:32:12.160 And what I'm hearing is, is that, take it for what it's worth, but that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom and that it's very stinky around him. 0.94

00:32:22.540 It's a putrid odor in the courtroom and that Trump's lawyers are like repulsed by the scent and the smell.

00:32:30.200 I'm hearing it from actual credible people that as he's kind of falling asleep, he is actually passing gas and that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell.

00:32:42.920 I think you'll actually start to hear more of that.

00:32:47.780 I mean, they're hot on the trail of the flatulence.

00:32:54.840 They, they, they could see it coming.

00:32:57.920 They sensed it coming from a mile away.

00:33:00.280 And Emily, this is like the breaking news from the courtroom that Trump is allegedly passing gas and his own lawyers can't stand it.

00:33:07.720 Eliana likes it.

00:33:08.960 As opposed to the lawyers who would be really happy about this situation.

00:33:14.620 This is, you know, great happenings in there.

00:33:17.340 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:18.580 Right.

00:33:18.800 It's like, well, how do we know, like, how do we know it's Trump?

00:33:21.440 How do we know it wasn't the lawyer sitting next to him?

00:33:22.940 Can you, can you locate the source of the gas exactly?

00:33:25.820 I mean, I, I would ask for a criminal probe on that, Emily, he might get indicted for this next week.

00:33:30.300 Yeah.

00:33:30.800 Well, don't put it past them and don't give them ideas because they're going after this case.

00:33:36.020 So who knows what they will do next.

00:33:37.960 But, you know, saying that he's, he wouldn't be surprised if the media starts talking about this more.

00:33:43.760 I mean, I guess he's probably right about that because the media is already reporting on the yawns.

00:33:47.940 They're reporting on the nodding.

00:33:50.260 I mean, it's just, of course, though, if they can, if they can find a credible way by their low standards to get this into print, they will.

00:33:58.160 They definitely will.

00:33:59.300 Eliana, they're on the scent.

00:34:00.740 They're on the scent of something big, possible flatulence in the courtroom.

00:34:04.920 I mean, it's weird how, like, I don't know.

00:34:06.960 You tell me if Trump were sitting across from E. Jean Carroll and she let one go.

00:34:10.320 Do you think the media would be updating and reporting on that?

00:34:13.240 Or is it just Trump gas that makes national headlines?

00:34:16.340 I'm curious.

00:34:17.000 I wonder.

00:34:17.740 No, I actually know the answer.

00:34:19.160 It's just, it's, it's a farce.

00:34:22.000 It's a different kind of FAR.

00:34:23.680 It's a farce.

00:34:24.420 Look, I think it goes to sort of bigger issue here, which is that voters don't really like Trump.

00:34:33.180 They don't really like Biden.

00:34:34.540 And the candidate in the general election that's hurt is the one that's in the headlines.

00:34:41.240 And the fact that Trump has these legal cases against him and is sitting in a courtroom, it gives the media a very easy excuse to keep Trump in the headlines every single day.

00:34:53.220 And this is the sort of news that we're going to hear about him.

00:34:57.520 And this is the real reason I think a lot of these trials are damaging for him.

00:35:01.620 It keeps him at the center of the news when the headlines we should really be seeing are Trump out campaigning and prosecuting the case against Biden.

00:35:09.760 And instead we're hearing about, you know, his odors from the courtroom.

00:35:13.880 Not to mention Biden fails to say anything about the rampant antisemitism on college campuses coast to coast.

00:35:21.040 That we're not talking about that.

00:35:22.540 We're talking about possible Trump gas, which, again, remains unproven.

00:35:28.480 Whoever smelt it, dealt it.

00:35:30.180 That remains the default rule, both in court and out of court.

00:35:34.360 Sorry, Ben, but that's just the way it is.

00:35:37.420 Update from inside the courtroom.

00:35:40.460 David Pecker has left the stand.

00:35:43.520 He has taken the stand and has left the stand.

00:35:46.640 Court is over for the day.

00:35:48.460 He was not cross-examined.

00:35:49.780 And it looks like he's going to come back and resume his testimony tomorrow.

00:35:53.040 This was because of the it was a 1230 appointment for the juror's tooth.

00:35:57.180 So everything remains in abeyance.

00:35:59.840 And so far, David Pecker talked about how this is basic checkbook journalism, where all the tabloids pay money for stories.

00:36:08.640 Legitimate news organizations that are in the business of actual news.

00:36:11.480 We don't do that.

00:36:12.640 We would never do that.

00:36:13.640 So that's a distinction.

00:36:14.380 But if you're a tabloid, you can do it.

00:36:16.420 And it's let me tell you something.

00:36:18.120 And the, you know, highbrow news organizations are not sin free on this either.

00:36:23.840 I remember we'd we'd watch Good Morning America crush on pictures on a huge story.

00:36:30.540 I don't know.

00:36:31.100 Let's say it was like Casey Anthony.

00:36:32.800 And we're like, my God, how are they getting these?

00:36:34.760 You know how they do it?

00:36:35.880 They pay a licensing fee for the photos. 1.00

00:36:39.080 It's all fucking smoke and mirrors. 0.99

00:36:40.860 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:36:41.260 It's just like that's disgusting, too.

00:36:43.380 You know what you're doing.

00:36:44.160 You're paying a licensing fee.

00:36:45.300 You're buying.

00:36:45.780 You're buying a story.

00:36:47.560 You know, are you really that much better than the National Enquirer?

00:36:50.160 I don't know.

00:36:50.920 I'll let the viewers decide that.

00:36:53.400 All right.

00:36:53.540 Stand by.

00:36:53.940 Quick break.

00:36:54.640 And we're going to get into Columbia and Yale and the Biden administration.

00:36:59.580 More with the EJs just ahead. 0.98

00:37:04.620 Columbia University cancels in-person classes as a new encampment forms on university grounds.

00:37:12.020 And a sign on the perimeter reads, welcome to the People's University of Palestine.

00:37:18.580 Well, I appreciate the honesty.

00:37:20.340 I mean, that's really true.

00:37:21.200 So good for them for finally getting it right.

00:37:23.220 This photo is courtesy of Columbia student, author, and former Megyn Kelly show intern,

00:37:29.800 Ricky Schlott.

00:37:31.300 Per CNN, this new encampment has around 200 protesters inside of it.

00:37:36.560 It's taking place opposite the lawn where the original encampment took place before police

00:37:41.060 went in on Thursday.

00:37:41.860 So they had already started.

00:37:42.840 Then on Thursday, after the Columbia president testified on Capitol Hill, they went in and

00:37:47.740 tried to disband the whole thing. 0.97

00:37:49.200 They removed it because she, under fire, finally authorized them to break this damn thing up. 0.98

00:37:55.660 Meanwhile, these Jewish students are trying to go to class and learn past these like, 1.00

00:37:59.700 globalize the Intifada chants.

00:38:01.740 Okay, sure.

00:38:03.600 NYPD officials held a press conference just a short time ago saying university officials

00:38:08.540 have currently requested the NYPD only patrol the exterior of the campus.

00:38:13.660 But they said, if there's a crime in progress, we are going to go in.

00:38:19.040 Over the weekend, Jewish and Israeli students on and around campus were subjected to chants like,

00:38:24.340 yes, Hamas, we love you.

00:38:27.480 We support your rockets too.

00:38:29.940 Do you believe these turds?

00:38:33.440 Watch this video, courtesy of the Israel Files.

00:38:36.200 You say justice, you say how. 0.90

00:38:56.720 Burn Tel Aviv to the ground. 0.98

00:38:57.960 All right, you get that. 0.97

00:39:05.800 I can barely read the little words on my own screen, but it's all anti-Semitic stuff.

00:39:09.440 Time to rebel. 0.99

00:39:10.600 Hamas, give them hell. 0.99

00:39:12.220 Some said they were told to go back to Poland. 0.99

00:39:14.420 And this woman here stood in front of the protesters who were holding up Israeli flags.

00:39:19.840 And for the listening audience, she used a cafe headscarf to disguise her identity because 0.97

00:39:26.480 they're all cowards. 0.98

00:39:28.060 You want to be an anti-Semite? 1.00

00:39:29.980 You do you, sweetheart. 0.68

00:39:31.460 But be woman enough to show your face. 1.00

00:39:34.640 You're disgusting because you know it's wrong and you don't have the guts to just own it. 0.99

00:39:41.500 You want to get your job at what? 0.99

00:39:44.820 Goldman?

00:39:45.560 Good luck. 0.88

00:39:46.200 And you know you can't show your Jew-hating face, so you cover it up while you hold a sign

00:39:51.840 that reads, Qassam's next targets. 0.56

00:39:54.820 Al Qassam is Hamas's armed military wing.

00:39:58.500 Their next targets, American Jews or their supporters holding up Israel flags. 0.99

00:40:06.500 She wants them dead. 1.00

00:40:08.180 You see, she's not hiding the message. 1.00

00:40:11.620 She's just hiding her disgusting face. 1.00

00:40:14.780 But you know what? 0.97

00:40:16.060 We'll find out who she is and then companies will be free to hire her or not. 0.99

00:40:21.140 That's the great thing about America.

00:40:22.780 They can make their own choices.

00:40:23.800 By Sunday, a rabbi linked with the University, Columbia, sent a message to a group of mostly 0.53

00:40:30.760 Orthodox Jewish students that stated, quote, I strongly recommend that you return home and 1.00

00:40:37.780 remain home until the reality in and around campus has dramatically improved.

00:40:43.240 Back with me now, the EJs. 0.94

00:40:44.740 Eliana, I'm so disgusted by these rabid anti-Semites.

00:40:49.960 This is not anywhere near the same as someone saying, I think Israel's gone too far.

00:40:57.060 Too many people have died.

00:40:58.660 I don't like the disproportionate response in my view.

00:41:01.360 That's a legitimate debate we can and should be having.

00:41:05.100 This is something else entirely. 0.99

00:41:09.240 These protesters are calling for the elimination of the Jewish state and for the death of Jews 1.00

00:41:16.840 on campus. 0.98

00:41:18.080 And you have, as you mentioned, campus rabbis saying that Jews on campus are not safe.

00:41:23.700 And there was a follow-up.

00:41:25.540 I'm not actually totally clear if it was from the same rabbi or a different rabbi saying that

00:41:29.820 Columbia is now offering armed escorts to students who remain on campus.

00:41:34.600 It's not that easy if you live across the country to just jet out of Columbia.

00:41:40.000 Passover begins today.

00:41:41.340 They're offering armed escorts to students to get to and from their seders.

00:41:45.440 So that is what it takes for Jewish students on campus to go about their daily lives.

00:41:52.780 And these students have shut down the school.

00:41:55.800 They can't have classes in person.

00:41:58.480 And it's interesting.

00:41:59.960 We heard President Shafiq last Wednesday testify before the House Committee on Education and

00:42:09.020 the Workforce saying, I really don't think these people are mostly driven by hate.

00:42:14.080 These are legitimate political disagreements.

00:42:16.480 And it's just a small minority of the students.

00:42:18.820 And I think we're seeing the protesters give lie to that.

00:42:22.860 These are hate-filled chants.

00:42:25.200 And whether it's a small number of them or not, they are showing their ability to exert

00:42:30.780 control over the campus.

00:42:32.580 The solution, I think, has come to is it's time for expulsion, removal and expulsion of

00:42:38.720 the students so that the school can function.

00:42:40.520 100% kick them out, get out, get all the way out. 0.99

00:42:47.940 If you're not from here, go back home to your whatever country, your Jew-hating country, 0.99

00:42:53.620 which is probably how you learned it.

00:42:55.480 I mean, it's amazing to me that they want all the benefits of being at an American university.

00:43:00.680 Some of them aren't even from here. 0.96

00:43:02.260 They just want to come over here, bash our country, bash a bunch of Jews, hold up signs 1.00

00:43:05.640 encouraging people to kill Americans on campus and then, you know, OK, on their merry way. 1.00

00:43:12.500 And some of those are Americans, too, which is even more disgusting. 1.00

00:43:16.000 They're like a cult, Emily, because we cut this one video just to show what's wrong with 0.98

00:43:20.380 these people.

00:43:20.860 Like what what's happening here?

00:43:22.840 Listen to them mindlessly follow this man in the chanting like they're, you know, it's

00:43:27.940 like church.

00:43:28.660 This is it's like church where you chant there.

00:43:31.960 You pray to God here. 0.99

00:43:33.820 You're praying to some loser student representative who apparently has zero tolerance for Jewish 1.00

00:43:38.760 people. 1.00

00:43:39.240 Watch this.

00:43:39.880 Sot three.

00:43:40.580 So that we can.

00:43:42.040 So that we can.

00:43:42.920 Maybe it's a woman. 1.00

00:43:43.620 Start to push them.

00:43:45.060 Start to push them.

00:43:46.600 Out of the camp.

00:43:48.120 Out of the camp.

00:43:49.600 One step forward.

00:43:51.000 One step forward.

00:43:53.900 Another step forward.

00:43:55.620 Another step forward.

00:43:56.940 We ask that you please respect our privacy and our community guidelines, which you have

00:44:11.540 so far disrespected and leave our camp.

00:44:17.680 And leave our camp.

00:44:20.380 One step forward.

00:44:21.740 One step forward.

00:44:25.620 Oh, my God.

00:44:27.200 They all have their little beanies and their masks outside way post covid.

00:44:33.260 Emily, you tell me, why is that?

00:44:35.020 Why are why are they masking outside?

00:44:36.560 No, it's a great question.

00:44:38.820 I mean, protesters at least used to have some style.

00:44:42.220 I also I'm curious.

00:44:43.420 They they said this is like the encampment university of Palestine at Columbia.

00:44:47.480 I feel like they probably can't do their like queer study classes. 1.00

00:44:51.560 That's their Palestine University at Columbia.

00:44:54.200 That might make it a little bit more complicated.

00:44:56.100 Yeah, it raises so many questions, but I mean, I think it's important to support free speech

00:45:03.180 when it's hard precisely because we are now seeing fully on display how absurd their claims

00:45:09.880 to not be, you know, I'm not saying all of these protesters are anti-Semitic, but clearly

00:45:14.920 some very vocal leaders of these protests are anti-Semitic.

00:45:18.700 So on the one hand, I think it's important to support free speech when it's hard.

00:45:22.260 I think it's also reasonable for schools to have narrow codes of conduct that determine,

00:45:27.560 you know, we're we're here and we respect inquiry at these temples of inquiry, American

00:45:32.360 universities.

00:45:33.720 But we do it for the sake of the good.

00:45:35.600 We do it for the sake of learning.

00:45:36.900 We do it for the sake of enlightenment.

00:45:39.000 And so, you know, when you're crossing those very obvious boundaries, camping outdoors,

00:45:44.460 you know, civil disobedience that's crossing into obvious violations, like saying Al-Qasam's

00:45:49.300 next target and pointing towards a Jewish student at Yale, they're playing music that says Israel's

00:45:55.240 going to die. 0.95

00:45:56.540 That kind of stuff is so it's not just the obvious hypocrisy that people like Bill Ackman

00:46:01.540 picked up on after October 7th with Claudine Gay and the other university presidents is also

00:46:06.440 just in some cases so very clearly crossing the line to not being good faith criticism of

00:46:11.820 Israel and being like blatantly anti-Semitic.

00:46:15.220 And there's just been so far, you know, repercussions that totally are disproportionate to how the

00:46:22.520 left would react if there were, you know, violations of student conduct from the right, if there

00:46:28.060 were actual legitimate hate speech coming from the right.

00:46:30.480 I mean, I've watched these universities for years say that you can't host a lecture by a 0.90

00:46:34.440 conservative speaker because of the security concerns.

00:46:37.900 You can just camp outside and say Al-Qasam's next target and play music that says Israel's 0.97

00:46:43.180 going to die. 0.95

00:46:44.520 Come on. 0.99

00:46:44.840 And then some Jewish students are going to have to go into class and sit next to that 1.00

00:46:48.300 lunatic. 0.98

00:46:49.220 I mean, it really is one of those things, the thought experiment. 0.96

00:46:51.760 Like, imagine if this were a bunch of anti-black protesters out there with a sign in front of 0.93

00:46:59.880 the few black people who nerved the angry mob to come out with, you know, American flags. 0.97

00:47:05.740 And then one of these white supremacists goes over and stands in front of them with a sign 0.81

00:47:10.240 that reads the KKK's next targets.

00:47:13.700 Imagine what would happen.

00:47:15.120 They would not be keeping the police off campus.

00:47:18.120 They would not be letting the students go back to their dorms and eventually resume classes and 0.83

00:47:24.340 sit next to the black students.

00:47:25.880 They would be expelled like that because there are behavioral codes on college campuses that 0.89

00:47:33.920 include anti-bullying and anti-harassment.

00:47:36.500 And that's because there are federal civil rights laws that ensure that these students should not be

00:47:41.640 subjected to that while they're on campus.

00:47:43.240 We're not talking about snowflakes, hurt feelings after some mild comment. 0.99

00:47:48.660 They're they're threatening and calling for the death of the Jews. 0.99

00:47:53.500 It's a problem. 0.99

00:47:54.920 I got to take a quick break.

00:47:56.740 Eliana, I give it to you when we come back.

00:47:58.320 We'll pick it up right there.

00:48:03.140 Eliana, I'd love to get you to weigh in, but I do want to point out it's not just

00:48:06.540 Columbia over in Yale.

00:48:09.900 It's alarming, too.

00:48:11.400 So in the video we're going to show you here, Yale students formed a human chain to block

00:48:17.720 a Jewish student from entering the university.

00:48:21.300 Like, I can't believe this is happening in America.

00:48:24.480 Watch this.

00:48:27.340 You're literally talking about.

00:48:29.200 Get in my way.

00:48:29.940 I'm allowed to walk.

00:48:30.960 I'm allowed to walk.

00:48:32.320 That's right.

00:48:33.320 I'm going to walk.

00:48:34.200 He has some freedom.

00:48:35.580 I'm just trying to walk around.

00:48:37.220 Let me walk around.

00:48:38.440 You can walk to us.

00:48:39.760 We're here.

00:48:40.160 Don't get in my way.

00:48:44.800 All right.

00:48:53.540 So it looks to me like a conservative Jewish person.

00:48:57.660 He's obviously openly Jewish and they're not letting him pass. 1.00

00:49:01.160 The mob follows him.

00:49:02.800 He moves left.

00:49:03.560 They move left.

00:49:04.120 He moves right.

00:49:04.580 They move right as a swarm and they're not letting him.

00:49:08.920 This is America.

00:49:09.780 This is this cannot happen at Yale University.

00:49:14.300 Didn't you go there, Eliana?

00:49:15.660 I'm a 2006 graduate and the Beacon also had a reporter up there covering the events as they transpired on Friday and Saturday, where just much like at Columbia, the students were camped out in tents on a university plaza.

00:49:33.080 And it is noteworthy that these events took place at a World War II memorial to Yale students who served in the wars and tore down an American flag and cheered as it was brought to the ground at that memorial.

00:49:47.820 We actually have that.

00:49:49.440 Here's a bit of it.

00:49:50.340 Sot 7.

00:49:50.780 Tearing down the American flag.

00:50:00.900 That's what they're cheering at, folks.

00:50:05.520 I'm sorry.

00:50:06.220 I'm sorry.

00:50:06.800 But that weird like it's like a part of the call to prayer.

00:50:10.220 That sound.

00:50:11.720 I've heard it in too many terror videos.

00:50:13.980 It still brings a chill when I hear it.

00:50:15.760 It's alarming.

00:50:16.560 And to see it, to hear it yelled when an American flag falls on one of our most prestigious or at least used to be university campuses, Eliana, brings up something very like vile.

00:50:33.080 I mean, it just I recoil.

00:50:36.080 I can't believe this is not free speech.

00:50:40.880 This is not about free speech. 0.99

00:50:42.520 These people are calling for the death of Jews. 0.96

00:50:45.260 They're tearing down American flags on American university colleges. 0.99

00:50:49.580 And we're just sitting back saying, you Jews, go ahead, Eliana. 0.99

00:50:53.540 Shredfield, perfectly comfortable going to class and crossing their little picket line as the mob swarms in front of you, tearing down a flag, our flag, to say, no, try it.

00:51:03.760 We dare you.

00:51:04.380 Yeah, at a memorial for young men who went and fought and died fighting the Nazis.

00:51:12.260 It's insane.

00:51:13.260 And it's noteworthy that administrators issued warnings on Saturday, but did nothing.

00:51:22.820 And at late Saturday evening, a young Jewish student, a young woman, was sent to the hospital when one of these protesters poked her in the eye with a Palestinian flag.

00:51:35.020 And this morning, the police were called in to start arresting people.

00:51:40.760 It must be Yale University's president, Peter Salovey, announced a year ago that this would be his last year.

00:51:47.680 They are looking for a new president.

00:51:49.300 And so I think that has motivated him to take a more hands up approach.

00:51:52.580 This is not his problem.

00:51:53.660 It's the next person's problem. 0.52

00:51:54.920 However, he must be watching what is taking place on the Columbia University campus and thought, I've got to start clearing this out.

00:52:03.700 But if these guys don't know already that their response to this is not to issue warnings and stand by as people start to get hurt, as private property, private university property is desecrated, rules are broken, university entrances and exits are blocked from students.

00:52:20.360 You know, warnings are not enough.

00:52:22.240 Time to start calling the cops.

00:52:23.480 I listened to a recording that we were not authorized to share, that a student took of her call to the Yale University Police Department, where the police officers told her, we are concerned.

00:52:36.340 We have not been authorized by the university to do anything yet.

00:52:40.240 That obviously changed overnight.

00:52:42.420 But 48 hours this went on.

00:52:45.060 Students were hurt.

00:52:46.760 Property was desecrated.

00:52:48.820 People were not allowed to pass freely through campus.

00:52:52.220 Enough is enough.

00:52:54.380 You know, you don't have a right to attend Yale University.

00:52:58.920 Time to, you know, students to be expelled.

00:53:02.420 Yeah.

00:53:02.980 Honestly, I would expel them and I would do whatever I had to do to get them off campus.

00:53:06.480 Whether it's cops, National Guard.

00:53:08.540 We have to get dramatic.

00:53:10.080 This cannot be allowed.

00:53:11.640 This is not about free speech.

00:53:12.840 You know where you can go and have perfect free speech rights?

00:53:15.200 Out in the town square.

00:53:16.640 Emily, you know, you mentioned it earlier.

00:53:19.860 Free speech is important. 1.00

00:53:20.760 Yes, no one's saying they're not allowed to scream this hateful shit. 1.00

00:53:25.080 That is the glory of being an American. 1.00

00:53:27.120 You can scream hateful shit unless it amounts to incitement. 0.99

00:53:29.900 Um, but you, you have limited free speech rights when it comes to the center of the campus square. 1.00

00:53:35.680 And this has gone beyond that menacing that they're doing to the Jewish student that we just showed there.

00:53:40.980 That's illegal.

00:53:41.900 You can't do that.

00:53:43.060 That is not okay wherever you are.

00:53:45.320 And it's certainly not okay on a college campus. 0.99

00:53:46.740 Because I don't like when, and no, you weren't doing this, but when people try to reduce this kind of behavior to free speech, it's bullshit. 0.94

00:53:54.040 That's not what this is.

00:53:56.120 So we need to be really clear on acceptable behaviors.

00:53:59.400 And all you need to do is picture a bunch of whites doing this to a black student about 40 years ago and ask yourself whether you defend it.

00:54:10.840 A reporter got kind of trolled on Twitter over the weekend.

00:54:13.640 I want to say she was from the New York Times or the Washington Post for saying she was there.

00:54:17.440 And what she saw at Columbia was, you know, a lot of, you know, a lot of that crazy stuff was happening.

00:54:22.280 Karen Atiyah.

00:54:23.300 She's the one who blocked me.

00:54:25.460 She, I used to follow her and then she cheered. 1.00

00:54:28.180 This is what resistance looks like after a bunch of Israel babies and women and children were murdered.

00:54:34.860 And I was like, okay, it's over between the two of us.

00:54:37.820 But she's out there.

00:54:39.000 So she's a Washington Post columnist who is out there.

00:54:42.340 Hold on.

00:54:42.720 And I pulled it.

00:54:44.020 Oh, here it is.

00:54:44.740 Okay.

00:54:44.900 Just to add to what you're saying and then I'll give you back the floor.

00:54:47.460 I teach my last class of the semester at Columbia this coming week.

00:54:53.160 God help them.

00:54:53.940 That explains a lot.

00:54:54.980 And the university has made this situation into a war zone.

00:54:59.920 Well, so far we agree, but we disagree on how.

00:55:03.620 It's by them permitting these protests in the first place.

00:55:06.660 No, she says most of the people posting about Columbia have not stepped foot on campus and

00:55:10.700 have no idea what's going on.

00:55:11.720 As I said, the demonstrations I saw last week were comprised of students of all faiths and

00:55:17.820 backgrounds.

00:55:18.800 Columbia escalated the situation by calling an armed police.

00:55:21.660 The ones I saw, Hitler's always been very nice to me, Emily.

00:55:26.380 All I saw was a perfect gentleman who was a very talented public speaker.

00:55:30.680 That's what she's doing here. 0.96

00:55:32.120 I didn't see any problems.

00:55:33.560 Oh, then none must have existed, Karen.

00:55:35.580 Well, it's insane to put the burden just on the university for the actions of the students.

00:55:41.480 I mean, I agree.

00:55:42.400 Like, I think we all agree the university is doing too little.

00:55:45.860 So, yes, she's right on that point.

00:55:47.980 I guess she wants the university to do too much. 0.96

00:55:49.840 But some of this is the university's fault.

00:55:52.140 But you're seeing so little of people holding, people who are organizing these protests, people

00:55:59.820 who are, you know, peacefully participating in legitimate civil disobedience.

00:56:03.760 They are not being asked to take control of the situation because to the extent that

00:56:09.380 Karen Atiyah is allowed to teach whatever nonsense she's teaching in that class, clearly 1.00

00:56:14.260 Columbia University is letting people make these arguments, these ridiculous arguments

00:56:19.100 that Hamas is the resistance, something Judith Butler has said before as well.

00:56:23.660 Clearly, those arguments are happening just fine.

00:56:25.860 In fact, they're being facilitated and encouraged by these universities. 0.73

00:56:28.740 And, you know, I think those arguments are ridiculous and wrong, but universities are obviously 0.61

00:56:34.160 teaching them.

00:56:35.240 But nobody is saying to the students that are organizing these protests, the burden is on

00:56:39.780 you to reel back the violence, the calls for Israel to die, the people holding signs that

00:56:47.000 say Al-Qassan's next target pointing at Jewish students.

00:56:50.280 If you organize a protest, you should be held to account when things get out of control.

00:56:56.220 How many times have we heard this exact same argument made about people on January 6th?

00:57:00.500 You know, or they point the finger at Donald Trump, even though he said, go protest peacefully.

00:57:04.340 And I think to some extent that's reasonable.

00:57:06.380 But it's the same thing.

00:57:08.200 But there's nothing in this case.

00:57:09.620 Nobody is saying, hey, those students that are organizing this, they really need to step

00:57:13.620 up and tell those other people to cut it out because they don't, in some cases, want

00:57:17.480 those people to cut it out.

00:57:19.320 No, God, they're leading them.

00:57:21.020 I mean, it's I mean, like, I think we could all agree if they were having a protest on

00:57:26.020 campus or even a sit in, if it weren't, you know, incredibly disruptive.

00:57:29.100 And, you know, that's really the test disruption under Supreme Court precedent.

00:57:33.500 But if they were having a protest and chanting something like Israel's committing genocide.

00:57:39.320 OK, that's an opinion.

00:57:42.080 Many people have it.

00:57:43.360 You that is an OK.

00:57:44.360 But threats, threats against Jewish students are not OK on a college campus.

00:57:51.020 That's just crossing a line that they would never allow anyone else to cross.

00:57:57.160 And it's insane that these Jewish families now have to worry about these schools at which

00:58:02.160 they spend almost seventy thousand dollars a year in tuition.

00:58:05.400 I think it is sixty seven thousand, I think, for a Columbia now at last check.

00:58:08.740 I've got to talk to you about Ilhan Omar's daughter, Eliana, because she's made herself

00:58:15.240 a public face of these protests.

00:58:17.860 You're shocked, shocked.

00:58:19.680 I know.

00:58:20.760 And she's at Barnard, which is right next to Columbia and is participating in this sit in

00:58:26.880 this nonstop off again on again, I guess is a more accurate term, but pernicious sit in.

00:58:33.100 And she, along with the other students who are not complying with the police directives

00:58:37.580 and so on, came out, got the full Vogue.

00:58:42.460 Is it Teen Vogue treatment?

00:58:45.000 It's always Teen Vogue.

00:58:46.340 It's always Teen Vogue.

00:58:47.940 And look, here she is. 1.00

00:58:51.300 She's such a hero.

00:58:52.820 The headline, Isra Hirsi, Ilhan Omar's Daughter on Columbia Arrests, Barnard Suspension, Palestine

00:59:02.940 Protests.

00:59:04.340 The subtitle is The Longtime Social Justice Activist and Barnard Jr., 21, talks to Teen Vogue

00:59:10.080 about the 48 hours following Columbia University's decision to send NYPD into a campus Palestine

00:59:16.480 solidarity encampment.

00:59:18.920 That's not exactly how it went down, but she decides to paint her time there as like she

00:59:29.100 was basically just kicked out of the last homeless shelter in New York with no food and no roof

00:59:34.760 over her head and says as follows. 0.98

00:59:39.040 We were reading our email and it said we had 15 minutes to go get our shit if we wanted 0.99

00:59:43.460 it and we'd have to go with a public safety escort. 0.98

00:59:46.760 I was like, I'm not going to do that.

00:59:49.620 But I was a little frantic, like, where am I going to sleep?

00:59:53.840 Where am I going to go? 0.97

00:59:56.140 And also, all of my shit is thrown into a random lot. 0.99

00:59:59.800 It's pretty horrible. 0.98

01:00:01.380 I don't know when I can go home and I don't know if I ever will be able to.

01:00:06.720 I mean, could you spare me?

01:00:09.640 You're like, I've only got crocodile tears for this person who was out there leading all 1.00

01:00:14.160 this shit. And then to double down, she goes, of course, on MSNBC and listen to this. 0.99

01:00:20.340 Now, I want the audience to pay particular attention to something we discussed last week,

01:00:24.820 which is her reference to the alleged chemical weapons that she claims were deployed

01:00:31.640 against her.

01:00:33.160 We know the truth thanks to the Free Beacon, Eliana's publication.

01:00:36.580 Listen.

01:00:36.720 Do you feel that you are being targeted because of the fact that it is in solidarity with

01:00:42.920 Palestinians and against what Israel is doing to Palestinians?

01:00:46.500 Oh, this is 100 percent targeted.

01:00:48.200 Every single protest that we have, there's a group of counter protesters that bring all

01:00:52.380 of their items, their flags and things like that.

01:00:54.680 And they're not seen as having unsanctioned protests or really receive the kind of disciplinary

01:00:58.900 warnings that many of our fellow organizers receive just for being seen at these protests.

01:01:04.140 And so there is definitely some hypocrisy here, especially you can kind of see it with the

01:01:09.520 students that were that were sprayed us with the chemical weapons and the fact that there

01:01:14.440 is no public information as to what happened to them, but rather the university is actively

01:01:18.380 discussing what is happening to the students here and making it a whole public spectacle rather

01:01:23.400 than when we haven't done anything to physically harm students, whereas those that sprayed those

01:01:29.200 chemical weapons physically harmed students.

01:01:31.300 Care to comment on that, Eliana?

01:01:35.620 Let's just start with the facts.

01:01:38.600 The chemical weapon in question was a fart spray purpose purchased on Amazon for $26 called

01:01:48.180 Liquid Ass. 0.82

01:01:50.260 OK, and I really have that New York State Supreme in the Trump trial, too.

01:01:56.000 Yeah, and she says nothing happened to these students.

01:02:01.600 These students who sprayed that were suspended, which is why they are now suing Columbia University

01:02:08.200 for accusing them of spraying a chemical weapon.

01:02:12.120 They were suspended immediately.

01:02:14.880 Columbia President Manu Shafiq testified before the Columbia University Senate and said that these

01:02:22.300 students had used chemical weapons.

01:02:24.680 These students were former IDF soldiers and then came to Columbia.

01:02:29.080 So she spread this misinformation and the fact that this was not any kind of chemical weapon,

01:02:35.060 but in fact, this harmless fart spray purchased off Amazon surfaced in their lawsuit where they

01:02:41.340 are litigating their suspension.

01:02:43.160 So what she said that we can't protest, but they can and nothing happens to them is total and utter 0.99

01:02:52.040 bullshit. 0.99

01:02:53.040 She's on MSNBC and got a spread in T-Vote. 1.00

01:02:56.740 They got suspended and she got a slaughter in SMBC.

01:02:59.480 And she said our protests appear to violate the policies.

01:03:02.620 Either the protests violate the policies or they do not.

01:03:06.800 Her protests, her behavior violated the university policy.

01:03:11.220 Beyond that, her mother, let's, you know, Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, was questioning 0.64

01:03:18.620 the Columbia University president weighing in on behalf of the protesters and never disclosed

01:03:24.160 to the American public that her daughter is one of the protesters who's going to suffer

01:03:28.320 the consequences.

01:03:29.500 One would think, at least in the interest of propriety, that Representative Omar would say,

01:03:35.120 you know, my daughter's on the campus and she's one of these agitators.

01:03:38.680 No, no, no.

01:03:39.820 She didn't say a word about that.

01:03:42.660 But in the interest, Omar was actually the one who got Columbia President Shafiq to say,

01:03:49.360 there are no anti-Jewish protests that I've seen and allowed.

01:03:53.140 Was she?

01:03:53.860 She did.

01:03:54.800 Right.

01:03:54.980 She was the one who asked the question.

01:03:57.000 Have there been anti-Muslim protests?

01:03:58.660 Shafiq said no.

01:03:59.460 She said, have there been anti-Jewish protests?

01:04:01.460 Shafiq said no.

01:04:02.460 And then Elise Stefanik stepped in and said, I'm sorry, there have been no anti-Jewish protests.

01:04:09.420 Would you consider death to Zionists? 0.98

01:04:11.480 Is that anti-Jewish? 0.99

01:04:12.520 And Shafiq had to backpedal and say, oh, actually, death to Jews. 0.97

01:04:17.180 They weren't labeled anti-Jewish.

01:04:19.820 Like when the notice that they were happening went out, they just evolved in that direction.

01:04:26.280 And then her three co-panelists, the chairman of the board of trustees, Jay Carney's wife,

01:04:31.380 Claire Shipman, and David Scheiser, Scheiser, whatever his name is, they all contradicted.

01:04:37.540 Erin said, of course, there have been anti-Jewish protests on this campus.

01:04:40.780 So anyhow, you know, what she said is a total and utter lie.

01:04:46.480 I think we're being too hard on Ilan Omar's daughter, who, let's face it, for a brief period

01:04:50.880 of time, her uncle became her stepdad when her mom married her brother.

01:04:56.360 So it's, you know, that kind of stuff can cause lasting damage, which can manifest itself

01:05:01.000 in a number of ways, Emily.

01:05:03.060 I'll tell you why the campus cops are not throwing the Israeli protesters off campus.

01:05:10.240 It's pretty clear.

01:05:11.300 It's depicted, for example, in this soundbite from Columbia with the Jewish students sought

01:05:17.440 for.

01:05:20.880 They're singing, they're waving American flags, and Israeli flags.

01:05:34.920 They're not covering their face.

01:05:37.280 No face is covered.

01:05:39.800 This is why they don't get bothered, Emily.

01:05:43.060 They're not doing anything.

01:05:44.620 And I realize Israel right now is in the midst of a bombing campaign against a group that attacked

01:05:50.580 it viciously on 10-7, which is controversial.

01:05:53.360 But these students are getting protested.

01:05:57.180 These Americans are getting harassed.

01:06:00.620 That's where we enter.

01:06:02.060 Well, this show isn't a big foreign policy show.

01:06:04.360 This is probably not where you come if you want daily, you know, 501 foreign policy updates.

01:06:09.220 But we get into it when it crosses over into what's happening to us, right, to Americans.

01:06:15.200 And this war is a great example of that. 0.99

01:06:17.700 We're not doing daily updates on this bombing campaign or that bombing campaign.

01:06:21.020 There are shows for that.

01:06:22.380 But this you target Americans for their beliefs or just because they happen to be Jewish and

01:06:28.800 all Americans should be standing up against you, that you're not allowed in the United 1.00

01:06:33.740 States to do this to a group on a college campus.

01:06:37.060 Well, and I think our standards for our campuses have just slipped and slipped to the point

01:06:42.900 where we're almost numb.

01:06:44.640 But, you know, to watch this happen, yeah, again, that like temples of inquiry, like the

01:06:49.120 American university system used to be the pride of the country.

01:06:53.620 It used to be the envy of the world.

01:06:55.660 And what we see now, you know, again, people, they burn American flags.

01:06:59.620 They take American flags down.

01:07:01.340 Some of this is protective speech, et cetera, et cetera.

01:07:04.280 That's not what we're talking about. 0.93

01:07:05.540 We're talking about people saying death to Jews.

01:07:08.940 We're talking about people saying Al-Qasim's next target.

01:07:11.700 We're talking about, in some cases, some very obvious incitement, violence, and stuff

01:07:16.880 that goes well beyond what our college is, why they enshrined free speech, free expression,

01:07:22.500 and free inquiry into their missions.

01:07:25.000 And that is for the purpose of bettering our society.

01:07:28.260 What we are seeing is not bettering our society.

01:07:30.840 And if you are going to practice civil disobedience, and if you are going to practice completely

01:07:37.560 non-civil disobedience, and then go on MSNBC and cry about the consequences for you, which

01:07:44.760 so far appear to be like maybe losing some stuff you were camping with, but also getting

01:07:50.340 an MSNBC slot spread in Teen Vogue, all kinds of plaudits from the media, then you've completely

01:07:59.520 lost the plot here.

01:08:01.860 Universities are so deeply, they're now so deeply run by an ideology that is utterly incoherent,

01:08:09.320 although it's coherent when it's convenient for people who believe in that sort of oppressed,

01:08:14.240 oppressed dichotomy.

01:08:15.260 When that's convenient to them, it's all that they can cling to, and that's why they

01:08:20.460 struggle so much, just like Claudine Gay did in front of Congress so many months ago. 0.96

01:08:25.440 So the same thing happened just last week.

01:08:28.240 They struggle so much with this because they can't fundamentally cop to the logical conclusion

01:08:33.920 of their belief system.

01:08:36.280 And that is where they're hitting the brick wall.

01:08:38.940 And it's why they're not capable of treating people equally when it comes to cracking down

01:08:45.800 on protests, when it comes to cracking down on speech.

01:08:48.340 That's why.

01:08:49.400 It's because they're held hostage to this completely incoherent ideology.

01:08:54.480 I would love to see, like if Ron DeSantis were president right now, I would love to see

01:09:00.180 what he would do.

01:09:01.100 I just feel like it would be a post-Brown versus Board of Education moment.

01:09:04.140 He would say, not one Jewish student will be prevented from going to class.

01:09:09.920 Not one Jewish professor will be intimidated on his way into the university.

01:09:14.920 No.

01:09:15.740 And I don't care what it takes. 0.98

01:09:17.120 And I don't give a shit if you don't like National Guardsmen here, or if you have a problem 0.99

01:09:20.740 with the large police presence. 0.99

01:09:22.580 Too bad.

01:09:23.600 Too bad.

01:09:24.280 You brought it on yourselves.

01:09:26.020 It's not just over here.

01:09:28.020 As I watched this video from London, Eliana, all I could think was, thank God we divorced them.

01:09:33.200 Thank God we divorced England.

01:09:35.580 But then you look back here and you're like, well, we're actually not doing so well ourselves.

01:09:40.400 But this is outrageous.

01:09:41.960 Look what the London police did and said to a Jewish man who showed up at a pro-Palestine

01:09:48.140 protest.

01:09:49.600 Sat 9.

01:09:51.100 You are quite openly up to it.

01:09:53.160 This is a pro-Palestinian mark.

01:09:54.900 I'm not accusing you of anything, but I'm worried about the reaction.

01:09:58.020 If I remain here, you'll arrest them.

01:10:05.700 Because your presence is antagonizing the larger people.

01:10:08.500 We can't deal with all of them if they attack you. 0.55

01:10:11.340 Okay, so your presence is antagonizing them because you're quite obviously Jewish. 0.99

01:10:19.980 Now, they've tried to dial that back because there was such outrage.

01:10:24.680 And so, first, the London Metropolitan Police Service apologized for the language of that

01:10:30.560 officer, but said, look, counter-demonstrators have to be aware that, quote, their presence

01:10:36.060 is provocative. 1.00

01:10:37.980 You know, those damn Jews, they just keep showing up and, like, wanting to cross the 1.00

01:10:41.600 sidewalk. 1.00

01:10:42.040 It's very annoying.

01:10:43.400 And then the Metropolitan Police Service later deleted that apology and issued a second one

01:10:50.400 that simply reads, in an effort to make a point about the policing of protest, we caused

01:10:55.300 further offense.

01:10:56.380 That was never our intention.

01:10:58.180 We have removed that statement and we apologize.

01:11:00.880 Being Jewish is not a provocation.

01:11:03.300 Okay, you finally got there. 0.99

01:11:06.260 But what a disgrace.

01:11:08.560 I feel very provoked by Eliana right now.

01:11:12.040 It's, you know, it's a disgrace.

01:11:15.460 And to your point, Megan, I do actually think that the situation in Europe is worse than the

01:11:20.200 one that we've seen in the United States.

01:11:22.580 And in many ways, what we're seeing on these college campuses, it is a warning sign that if

01:11:27.640 we don't nip this in the bud and we don't, that these university administrators don't

01:11:32.800 lay down the law about what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, next, it will be

01:11:37.940 our workplaces and many other places in this country.

01:11:41.840 We've seen that.

01:11:42.640 Like, we've seen the ideology already.

01:11:44.760 In fact, it came into our newsroom.

01:11:47.040 It came into the workplaces.

01:11:48.520 Next will be these sorts of protests.

01:11:50.060 We will have tent, you know, tent camp outs in our offices and city streets.

01:11:56.160 And like, this stuff doesn't stop.

01:11:58.260 It is not contained on college campuses.

01:12:00.920 The Europe stuff is a real warning for what could happen in this country.

01:12:04.640 I'm like, I feel like we're months away from Stars of David.

01:12:08.220 I know we've seen some of that spray painting, but like some identifier or like what the Christians 1.00

01:12:13.000 now are going to have like a cross.

01:12:14.280 Like, don't get me.

01:12:15.540 You know, Christ is king.

01:12:16.480 It's just, we're getting, we're on a dangerous pier right now and we need to not jump.

01:12:22.320 We need to not jump.

01:12:23.300 We need to pull it back, get back together and stop the nonsense.

01:12:27.440 And there's certain core principles we can all agree on, which is civilized debate and

01:12:31.560 safety, not the fake kind.

01:12:34.000 Again, like I can't hear your controversial opinion on abortion, but real safety.

01:12:37.980 Like I'm not going to get killed on the way to biology on college campuses where, you

01:12:44.060 know, our best and brightest, or at least some of them are just trying to get an education.

01:12:48.020 I've got to ask about Joe Biden.

01:12:50.360 Emily, this was Joe Biden in his campaign ad when he was running for president on Charlottesville

01:12:57.700 and Trump.

01:13:00.240 It was there in August of 2017.

01:13:02.560 We saw Klansmen and white supremacists and neo-Nazis come out in the open. 0.96

01:13:06.860 They're crazed faces, illuminated by torches, veins bulging, and burying the fangs of racism, 0.97

01:13:17.100 chanting the same anti-Semitic bile heard across Europe in the 30s.

01:13:21.520 And that's when we heard the words of the president of the United States that stunned the world

01:13:26.640 and shocked the conscience of this nation.

01:13:29.060 He said there were, quote, some very fine people on both sides.

01:13:35.040 Very fine people on both sides?

01:13:38.340 But those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between

01:13:44.100 those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it.

01:13:49.960 And in that moment, I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had ever seen in my lifetime.

01:13:56.400 We can't forget what happened in Charlottesville.

01:13:59.240 You get the picture.

01:14:00.280 Okay?

01:14:00.800 Can't forget what happened in Charlottesville.

01:14:03.280 The horrible anti-Semitism that we saw on camera.

01:14:07.960 That wasn't the only time he's remarked on it with his face, with his voice. 0.53

01:14:12.620 Now that he's president and we see death to the Jews and Al-Qasam's next victims right here 1.00

01:14:20.300 and death to America and pulling down the American flag. 0.57

01:14:24.660 What do we get?

01:14:25.500 We get a spokesperson from the White House saying,

01:14:31.600 The ancient story of persecution against Jews in the Haggadah, which is the book they

01:14:37.180 read during Passover, also reminds us that we must speak out against the alarming surge

01:14:41.920 of anti-Semitism in our schools, communities, and online.

01:14:45.700 Silence is complicity.

01:14:47.700 Even in recent days, we've seen harassment and calls for violence against Jews.

01:14:51.220 This blatant anti-Semitism is reprehensible and dangerous, and it has absolutely no place

01:14:56.760 on college campuses or anywhere in our country.

01:14:59.700 Now, if you could just put him in front of a camera, stick that in the teleprompter and

01:15:04.420 let him deliver it with any sort of vigor, anything.

01:15:08.220 I'll take what we saw in 2020.

01:15:10.020 It could be a W, but it's not, because the spokesperson put this together, understanding

01:15:15.320 they had to do something, and there's no heart in it, because Joe Biden probably doesn't even

01:15:19.740 know it was issued.

01:15:21.580 What do you think, Em?

01:15:22.180 Yeah, and let's say he does that a couple of days from now.

01:15:25.580 I mean, it's already way too late.

01:15:26.840 The campuses have spiraled completely out of control.

01:15:29.160 It's just a complete absence of leadership.

01:15:31.780 And, you know, leadership, not even just in a policy sense, but in the sort of sense of

01:15:36.220 this is like the calming national figure who is supposed to be also sort of a thought

01:15:41.480 leader, somebody who kind of puts their foot down when things are spiraling out of control,

01:15:45.760 and that's obviously what's happened on college campuses.

01:15:48.120 So I don't know that they actually would have said anything if they didn't also feel like

01:15:52.760 they had to put out a Passover statement.

01:15:55.240 You know, if it hadn't been Passover, I genuinely wonder if they would have said anything to this.

01:16:00.460 It's not surprising at all that it's a statement from a spokesperson as opposed to the president.

01:16:05.520 They don't want to draw any attention to this whatsoever.

01:16:09.100 We saw that there has been so much backlash on the left to the president's policies that they

01:16:15.960 went to Dearborn, they dispatched, you know, high level people from the administration to

01:16:20.480 Dearborn to try and modify people in that area who are just absolutely incensed by the

01:16:27.720 Biden administration's policy.

01:16:29.140 So he can't.

01:16:30.340 I mean, if he does it, it'll be too late.

01:16:32.440 But he certainly doesn't want to draw any attention to pushing back because he's getting

01:16:37.860 so much heat for being, you know, relatively supportive, as they see it, of Netanyahu and

01:16:43.720 the prosecution of the war up until this point.

01:16:46.140 So, I mean, it's just he's he's in a little bit of a trap, but it's one of his own making.

01:16:50.880 He really needs to watch it, Eliana.

01:16:52.800 He needs to watch it if he caters to this fringy element of the left, because there are a lot

01:17:00.140 of liberal Jewish voters who are with him so far, but are starting to turn on him and

01:17:09.380 take a fresh look at Trump.

01:17:11.360 Dan Senor was just tweeting about this today, and I don't think he's wrong.

01:17:15.940 I think the president may be misjudging how strong a voting contingent the Ilan Omars of 0.93

01:17:23.840 the world control and maybe not factoring in as much a big core of the Democratic Party is it.

01:17:31.740 Trump's not wrong that, you know, American Jews tend to vote Democrat, like the more 1.00

01:17:37.980 conservative, Orthodox.

01:17:39.600 They're a little bit more Republican.

01:17:41.200 You tell me if I'm wrong, but he's going to start to lose this core, the core people

01:17:46.660 if he caters too much to that far left flank.

01:17:49.800 Biden is between a rock and a hard place on this because he cannot get far enough in the

01:17:58.720 real world, speaking in real world terms, he cannot get far enough to the left to pacify

01:18:04.840 the Ilhan Omars and Jamal Bowmans of the world, the squad members, the folks protesting on campus.

01:18:12.180 They are going to protest his convention. 0.92

01:18:15.160 They are going to make his life miserable.

01:18:17.100 Clearly, what he is doing, which is essentially calling for conditioning aid on Israel, he has

01:18:23.160 put so much pressure on Israel.

01:18:24.640 They have not gone into Rafa.

01:18:26.320 You know, he has turned and become a strident critic of the way Israel is prosecuting this

01:18:31.620 war.

01:18:32.120 That is not enough for them.

01:18:33.860 He cannot get far enough to appease them.

01:18:36.800 At the same time, the chaos that they are sowing and the general impression, I think, among

01:18:43.460 the public, that there is chaos afoot in the country, on our college campuses and elsewhere,

01:18:49.420 is really, really hurting Biden.

01:18:52.840 But issuing a statement like the one he did and doing it in front of the campus, or doing

01:18:58.780 it in front of the camera, excuse me, saying, this is totally unacceptable.

01:19:02.800 We need to restore order.

01:19:04.000 Look, we saw Ronald Reagan do that when he was gearing up for a presidential run.

01:19:08.020 Um, would further inflame the very people he is trying to appease and whom he needs not

01:19:13.940 to disrupt his convention. 0.96

01:19:15.740 Um, I think he is, he has screwed himself here. 0.62

01:19:18.760 Um, he's in a very, very difficult situation. 0.51

01:19:22.460 And even with like suburban moms who see what's happening on campuses. 1.00

01:19:25.920 So it's not even necessarily just democratic, uh, typical democratic Jewish voters.

01:19:30.360 Look at a suburban mom is going to look at Biden, you know, and say, this is, uh, it's

01:19:35.260 offensive.

01:19:35.700 This is out of control, uh, and dangerous.

01:19:38.600 And by the way, we saw urban moms. 1.00

01:19:40.620 Yeah, go ahead.

01:19:41.480 Oh, uh, you know, we saw the Columbia president try to do a, a kind of Biden.

01:19:47.620 She was also between a rock and a hard place where she said, I'm not going to go before

01:19:51.920 the committee and say, Hmm, ha.

01:19:53.780 I don't know. 0.58

01:19:54.400 Is a call for genocide of the Jews harassment.

01:19:56.780 She wasn't going to make the same mistakes as the folks who came before.

01:19:59.420 So she went up and said, this stuff is bad.

01:20:01.900 She was really apologetic.

01:20:03.540 And in the testimony that her testimony went much better.

01:20:08.260 She was well-prepared.

01:20:09.660 She returned to campus and now she's paying the price.

01:20:13.420 Like there is just no way for, uh, Biden, the democratic party, the left to escape the

01:20:20.200 actual ideological, uh, ideological reality that they have created.

01:20:25.300 OK, so those suburban moms need to be paying attention to this among other things, um, and 1.00

01:20:32.100 title nine and what happened on Friday as this administrative agency engaged in a power

01:20:37.840 grab, unlike many others.

01:20:40.260 And you're going to get a little preview when we come back from this break of what's coming

01:20:45.260 soon to a bathroom near you or your daughter. 0.99

01:20:49.600 Don't go anywhere.

01:20:50.440 Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson.

01:20:52.380 Stay with us.

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01:21:56.280 So there was zero coverage, zero on the Sunday shows of what just happened to Title IX in which

01:22:04.040 the Biden administration, through one of its administrative agencies, redefined the term women. 1.00

01:22:11.660 Trans women, which is fake, that's men pretending to be women, are now included in Title IX, 0.99

01:22:18.080 which is meant to protect women. 0.98

01:22:20.180 But now if you're a man pretending to be a woman, you get the same protections that we get. 0.79

01:22:24.100 You can come into our locker rooms.

01:22:25.480 You can come into our bathrooms on any school campus, on college campuses, on K through 12.

01:22:31.240 It's just fine because we're going to be completely safe because there are absolutely no sickos who are going to take advantage of this bastardization of Title IX.

01:22:43.160 Or are there? 0.94

01:22:44.660 I take you already to the University of Tampa and Young America's Foundation, which happened to catch one of these fakers coming out of the women's restroom. 1.00

01:22:57.040 I think it's just on Friday.

01:22:58.360 Watch.

01:22:59.560 Excuse me.

01:23:00.200 What are you doing in the women's bathroom? 1.00

01:23:02.140 I'm sorry?

01:23:02.800 What are you doing in the women's bathroom? 1.00

01:23:04.200 I'm peeing. 0.96

01:23:05.560 Okay, but you're a man.

01:23:08.500 Yes, you are.

01:23:10.400 You are clearly a man and you were just in the women's bathroom. 0.69

01:23:13.540 Do you know how much money I pay for this school and now there's a man in my bathroom? 1.00

01:23:20.220 Well, you should talk to the administration.

01:23:22.340 Oh, I definitely will.

01:23:23.560 Good.

01:23:25.300 But why do you feel the need to go into women's spaces as a man?

01:23:30.200 No comment on that?

01:23:32.240 Do you think women don't deserve their own private spaces? 1.00

01:23:37.140 Nothing?

01:23:38.720 Really?

01:23:40.340 Do you support women's rights?

01:23:44.100 No?

01:23:45.760 Okay, so there's just a man in our bathroom.

01:23:48.080 That's wonderful.

01:23:49.580 So we have the University of Tampa allows this.

01:23:53.420 We also have drag queens as well. 1.00

01:23:56.880 And then drag queens walk by at the same moment. 1.00

01:23:58.800 Okay, for the listening audience, that was a man who looked over 6'2", who had teeny-weeny hot pink, like, biker shorts on. 0.97

01:24:10.360 You know, the kind where, like, your butt hangs out. 0.79

01:24:12.200 With a black belt going around, Barbarella style. 1.00

01:24:15.820 And a teeny-weeny green bikini top with what appeared to be some sort of fake breasts going on up there. 1.00

01:24:21.660 And hot pink sneakers. 0.98

01:24:23.420 And his long, man midriff exposed. 0.55

01:24:28.460 It does look like he actually tried to shave his body here.

01:24:30.680 So, thumbs up on that one.

01:24:33.000 And a blue wig.

01:24:34.540 This is the absurdity that these young women... 1.00

01:24:37.280 When I went to college, I was 17.

01:24:39.600 There's a 17-year-old walking in there, having to deal with that.

01:24:42.440 And then you're supposed to pull down your pants.

01:24:45.400 You're supposed to take your pants off.

01:24:46.640 Or lift up your dress.

01:24:48.300 And do your business.

01:24:49.140 And, oh, not to worry.

01:24:50.960 You're good.

01:24:51.700 Not to worry, Emily.

01:24:52.620 You just take your prejudice.

01:24:53.960 And, by the way, to that point, Riley Gaines had just tweeted out.

01:24:56.300 She gave a speech at the University of...

01:24:59.320 What was it?

01:24:59.980 It was one of the state universities in New York.

01:25:02.360 SUNY Cortland.

01:25:03.600 And she put up on Twitter the sign that was in the bathroom there. 0.62

01:25:09.000 Which was basically telling all women to ignore any objections that they might feel.

01:25:13.740 Here it is.

01:25:14.720 Upon seeing...

01:25:15.640 Oh, here it is.

01:25:16.820 Do you feel like someone is using the wrong bathroom?

01:25:19.560 It doesn't then finish with,

01:25:21.300 If so, say something.

01:25:23.080 Go get help.

01:25:24.380 It says, if so, don't stare at them.

01:25:27.260 Don't challenge them.

01:25:28.980 Don't...

01:25:29.620 What's the third one?

01:25:30.600 Insult them.

01:25:31.840 Don't purposefully make them feel uncomfortable.

01:25:36.820 Do respect their privacy.

01:25:40.360 Respect their identity.

01:25:42.840 Carry on with your day.

01:25:45.640 Transgender and non-binary individuals,

01:25:48.200 you have every right to be here.

01:25:50.960 So in that fight we just saw between the young woman and the pink bottom guy,

01:25:58.220 he wins.

01:25:59.900 And now it's national policy and K through college education and beyond in the education front

01:26:07.120 that he wins thanks to no lawmaker other than Joe Biden.

01:26:13.060 In full disclosure, I'm completely biased about that Tampa video because my part-time job is at YAS

01:26:20.440 Journalism Program and we're very proud of that student because the first time I saw that video,

01:26:24.540 I was like, that girl conducted herself brilliantly and was like so sharp in that interaction.

01:26:31.700 And the video going viral sort of, it just puts it all into perspective for people who aren't on

01:26:36.220 college campuses right now, you are looking at the reality of it.

01:26:40.320 And on that poster that Riley Gaines tweeted out, so important, in the bottom right corner of that,

01:26:45.840 you see it says Title IX. 0.89

01:26:47.920 On the freaking poster, telling college students who are uncomfortable, 0.95

01:26:53.860 it doesn't matter if they're conservative or liberal, 0.94

01:26:55.320 young women who are uncomfortable with what just happened on that video,

01:26:59.020 that it is a Title IX sanction policy for you to shut up and take it.

01:27:03.300 And that's exactly what the Biden administration's position on this is.

01:27:06.300 And the Biden administration's position to schools is that if you do not follow our law,

01:27:13.720 our regulation that wasn't passed through Congress, it was just done by an executive decision,

01:27:17.960 if you don't follow it, we are threatening your federal funding.

01:27:21.700 So if you're not responsive to these women who feel unsafe, to these girls who feel unsafe,

01:27:27.140 your federal funding gets yanked because you're in violation of Title IX,

01:27:32.580 which was a massive achievement of the women's rights movement.

01:27:35.040 It's a farce. 1.00

01:27:36.020 It's pathetic. 0.99

01:27:36.700 And the fact that none of the Sunday shows, as you mentioned, felt that they should discuss it 0.99

01:27:41.020 tells you exactly how far the media has gone and how far the left has gone.

01:27:45.300 Yeah, they don't care.

01:27:47.100 By the way, I forgot to mention the man in that video is probably about 50.

01:27:49.780 I mean, this is like not what a college student looks like in any way, shape or form.

01:27:54.060 There was a video posted online over the weekend of two men posing as women having some knockdown

01:28:00.120 drag out in Costa Rica, and they are wearing similar outfits to the one I just described.

01:28:04.840 They look absolutely absurd with their big belly sticking out and they're going at it.

01:28:09.120 And I'm thinking, coming soon to a restroom near you, ladies. 1.00

01:28:13.000 This is what American locker rooms are soon going to look like as these sick guys work out

01:28:18.600 their issues in our presence, where we are just in there to have our safe space,

01:28:24.020 to do our business, to get change for Jim, whatever.

01:28:27.440 I don't want to look at it.

01:28:29.200 And by the way, Eliana, let's not pretend that men don't tend to be more violent as a rule than women.

01:28:36.240 We just saw that at a school in Pennsylvania this weekend,

01:28:41.060 where a boy pretending to be a girl beat the hell out of a young girl.

01:28:45.860 He took one of those Stanley mugs, you know, which are big and substantial,

01:28:51.220 and beat a female student who was 12 so hard with it that they're not showing the video online.

01:28:59.040 She received several staples in her head,

01:29:01.600 and it led to a bunch of parents and students speaking out at the school board meeting right after,

01:29:09.920 not understanding why no one in the media or even at the school will mention that the attacker

01:29:16.720 was so-called trans, was a boy pretending to be female.

01:29:21.280 Watch.

01:29:22.900 I went to the guidance counselor and told her since I was second on the hit list,

01:29:28.600 Then I went to chorus and I was told, watch your back.

01:29:32.300 He is going to come for you and this other girl.

01:29:37.980 The girl who got attacked didn't see it because she was faced backwards,

01:29:42.500 and all of a sudden you just hear these terrible, like, loud bangs of the Stanley bouncing off her head.

01:29:48.660 And then you see Mel grabbing her hair and hitting her against the table

01:29:53.360 and just repeatedly hitting her with the Stanley.

01:29:56.380 There was blood going everywhere.

01:29:58.260 And laying in bed last night, I just kept repeating it in my head,

01:30:02.520 and we shouldn't have had to sit there and just, like, watch that, like,

01:30:08.340 watch them clean up her blood with the mom. 0.99

01:30:10.740 Watch her repeatedly yelling that I'm going to murder you. 0.97

01:30:14.360 There was multiple complaints about him. 0.97

01:30:16.640 This was a teenage boy who beat on a little girl, all right?

01:30:23.960 Call it what it is.

01:30:25.520 I don't care.

01:30:27.440 I'm here because people reach out to me.

01:30:29.920 I'm here because apparently too many people are afraid to just say that.

01:30:34.840 Men and women are different, all right? 0.98

01:30:36.940 How come none of the articles said that it was a boy attacking a girl?

01:30:43.060 How come half the people here kept switching between he and she?

01:30:47.600 And again, I have nothing against any type of community, but what's right is right and what's fair is fair.

01:30:53.140 This is not the place for a platform for transphobia.

01:30:56.680 I do not agree with that.

01:30:58.560 And I know many others there, too.

01:31:01.560 And they booed her. 0.99

01:31:02.860 This was at the Pembroke Middle School in North Wales, PA.

01:31:06.300 Megan, I actually think that the two things we've talked about are connected, one of which is the treatment of Jewish students on college campuses, and the second is this reaction to men and trans folks using women's bathrooms.

01:31:22.260 And it's like what we see of the result of having these hierarchies of oppressions, and a lot of these anti-Semitism committees on campuses have said what we're seeing on campuses is this double standard where when Jews say, hey, this is discrimination, we're not comfortable with this, this is a problem, they're not believed or they're told we're privileged, and we're going to discount what you say.

01:31:47.820 You're the only group not allowed to say we're being discriminated against.

01:31:51.340 And it's the same thing that we're seeing with this bathroom issue where when women are saying it, and look, I remember visiting colleges with my parents, and in fact, like, I had mixed-sex bathrooms in college. 0.98

01:32:04.080 It felt weird and awkward.

01:32:05.780 It wasn't with trans. 0.99

01:32:06.680 It was just like we're across the hall from a boy's suite, and we go in and out.

01:32:11.800 And there's just a natural feeling of, like, this is strange to get out of the shower and see a guy brushing his teeth there.

01:32:17.420 But the response is, now, when women are speaking up, you're not the oppressed. 0.53

01:32:24.300 The trans are the oppressed. 0.99

01:32:25.700 You cannot speak out about this.

01:32:27.960 The men are the oppressed. 0.87

01:32:29.060 You are lower on the hierarchy.

01:32:31.520 Be quiet.

01:32:32.220 You're right.

01:32:32.660 What you say is not valid.

01:32:36.300 And that was my reaction to seeing that sign.

01:32:39.480 Your claims of discomfort, feeling attacked, are not valid.

01:32:46.200 You must shut up because there is a class that is higher on the oppression scale.

01:32:50.960 And let me show you what you're going to get. 0.96

01:32:52.240 Let me show you what you're going to get as a result.

01:32:54.160 Okay?

01:32:54.660 Coming soon to a bathroom or locker room near you, Tara J.

01:32:59.940 Here's Tara's original video.

01:33:02.940 Tara is someone who likes to post naked D's all over his Twitter account. 0.99

01:33:09.880 I mean, left and right, it's like a gay porn Twitter account. 1.00

01:33:13.240 And pictures of himself in a diaper who now has decided he's a she. 1.00

01:33:20.960 And this is how we first came to know Tara last March when he made his original threat on the bathroom issue.

01:33:29.920 It's SOT 12.

01:33:30.440 I dare you to try and stop me from going into a women's bathroom. 1.00

01:33:36.920 It will be the last mistake you ever make. 0.98

01:33:40.620 I dare you to try and stop a transgender woman in my presence from using the bathroom. 1.00

01:33:47.960 It will be the last mistake you ever make. 0.91

01:33:50.300 This is a call to action and a call to arms.

01:33:52.560 You need to arm up.

01:33:53.940 Plain and simple.

01:33:55.260 Go out, buy a gun.

01:33:57.320 Learn how to use it.

01:33:59.640 Efficiently.

01:34:00.440 Well, he's back, Emily.

01:34:03.220 And now he's threatening.

01:34:05.040 Well, you'll hear.

01:34:06.040 Take a listen to SOT 11. 0.99

01:34:06.820 Yeah, I'm that person and I stand by every fucking word I've ever said. 0.98

01:34:11.040 Nowhere in that video did I threaten women and children. 0.98

01:34:13.620 Getting my name defamed and slandered in news articles.

01:34:19.380 I've even had famous people mention me.

01:34:22.560 People calling me a pedo.

01:34:23.760 As long as I can find out who you are and where you live, you're going to get in trouble.

01:34:28.300 You're going to get, you know, you're going to get a knock on your door for that. 0.54

01:34:32.080 Calling me a pedo because I am a woman and I use a woman's restroom and I use a woman's locker room. 0.98

01:34:37.040 No one has ever fucking stopped me. 0.98

01:34:39.200 No one. 0.96

01:34:39.820 No one will ever fucking stop me. 0.97

01:34:43.640 Great. 0.99

01:34:44.420 Great.

01:34:44.820 That's what we're going to come up.

01:34:45.680 By the way, the people he threatened were Tim Pool, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, lives with TikTok with a lawsuit.

01:34:50.180 And you tell me, I mean, it sounds like they're going to get a lot more than a lawsuit if they run into this man posing as a woman.

01:34:58.480 And that's the Biden administration's answer to the dad that you played before, who says men and women are different, etc. 0.97

01:35:04.680 At a middle school is now screw you.

01:35:08.480 This guy is right. 0.79

01:35:09.840 The guy who's saying take up arms.

01:35:12.000 But that's not a threat to women and children. 1.00

01:35:13.980 You know, we need to take up arms to anybody who stops a man from entering a woman's bathroom because their identity is of a woman. 0.67

01:35:21.240 No, that person is correct.

01:35:24.040 And I could not possibly agree with Eliana more that this is exactly connected to what we talked about on college campuses.

01:35:29.820 They don't want to own the logical conclusion of their own oppressor-oppressed dichotomy, which is that now men who identify as women, they are taking the priority. 0.63

01:35:43.540 They get priority over actual women because they say they feel like women, because somehow they've rewritten Title IX, not by Congress, but by executive fiat, to include men.

01:35:54.820 I mean, it should be a massive scandal that the media is covering like crazy, that parents are outraged about, and parents are outraged.

01:36:02.120 But you're barely even hearing anything about it from the Republican Party.

01:36:05.320 And the Republican Party, you know, opposed it during the Obama years, but should have been going full-court press then, too.

01:36:11.360 Thanks to the policies of this administration, never mind their corporate enablers like Planet Fitness and so on,

01:36:17.020 you or your kid could be minding your own business in the locker room, getting ready for a workout or post-shower, toweling off,

01:36:24.820 and that lunatic can come in wearing his diaper, claiming he's a woman, but packing a gun. 0.99

01:36:33.920 And you're in the wrong. 1.00

01:36:35.540 You just shut up and take it.

01:36:37.680 And you can say thank you, Joe Biden, because he's the one who made it happen. 0.51

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01:36:46.020 Thanks, Megan.

01:36:46.660 Thanks, Mike.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 22, 2024

Campus Antisemitism Chaos, Trump Trial Kicks Off, and Biden's Anti-Woman Title IX Rules, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson ｜ Ep. 772

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