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00:01:14.300Welcome to this special episode today featuring some highlights from our MK Media stars on our MK Media Podcast Network shows this week, just in case you missed their highlights.
00:01:24.260I got them for you, Emily Jashinsky had Adam Carolla live on After Party this week, where they dug into Stephen Colbert and the truth about Ellen.
00:01:32.760Link Lauren, he took a look at the way brands like Nike and, yes, American Eagle have swung back from their woke moments back in 2020.
00:01:40.980Thank God he did that on his show spot on Mark Halperin got into the state of the Democratic Party on Next Up and why their leaders are in denial right now.
00:01:51.720And Maureen Callahan took on Gwyneth Paltrow's bland new biography on her show, The Nerve.
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00:02:53.500One reason, actually, people alienate half of their audience is because so many fewer people are watching in general that it's easier to sell ads to a loyal group of people rather than trying to bring in a giant piece of the pie because everyone has so many different choices.
00:03:09.160Do you think that's what's going on here, or is there something else happening?
00:03:13.860I, you know, I don't know what the dynamic is behind a lot of stuff.
00:03:20.600Like, I can't tell if it's just a personal preference thing or it's an overt, you know, attempt to make money.
00:03:31.280I personally have just always sort of said what I wanted to say, and I never really thought much about who was angry or who was listening or anything.
00:03:40.660I mean, every comedian says that, but I think some probably don't.
00:03:44.480I think, I think Colbert and any late night comedian, and by the way, news anchors used to be this way, and Sunday show anchors used to be this way, and reporters used to be this way.
00:04:02.020They felt there was a kind of a thing in our society in general where you were a little bit stoic about things.
00:04:12.400There's no Pedro Pascal talking about all his emotional difficulties he's having.
00:04:23.000Like, well, what I'm saying is, is there isn't, I mean, I'm just sort of thinking this out in real time, but it wasn't about late night, and it wasn't about politics.
00:04:43.800I'm not going to take to some Twitter that didn't exist back then, but, you know, write op-ed pieces and stuff talking about how much I hate my daughter or something, or my son's transitioning or something.
00:04:56.040You know, it was like there was a decorum.
00:04:58.220You know, it's like people used to dress to go on an airplane.
00:05:01.000You know, and so late night show hosts, news anchors, news reporters, doctors, and lawyers weren't going to oblige and give you, let you know how they felt about everyone all the time.
00:05:14.520You know, they, you know, if you brought up a Trump-like character, you know, in the 60s, then Jack Parr would have said, well, not exactly my cup of tea, but I'm sure some people find him amusing, or something snarky and a little underhanded.
00:05:30.260But then when you go, fuck Trump, and start screaming it over and over again into a camera lens, you know.
00:05:37.760And we didn't know what Johnny Carson thought politically because he didn't want us to, because he didn't believe just like whatever marital issues he was having or situations at home.
00:05:54.660He was there to entertain us, and we weren't there to know everything about him.
00:06:00.420And now we've gone into some realm where these people have to be more than talking heads who entertain us.
00:06:09.080They have to be our friends and our, you know, co-sponsors.
00:06:12.980And so they're going to start talking about things that they never would have talked about that were personal.
00:06:22.720You know, Jay, I should say David Letterman famously had his whole heart situation and a medical scare, and he got out there and, you know, came to tears and was talking about the surgeons that saved him and stuff.
00:06:35.360And it was a moving moment, but Johnny Carson wouldn't have done that because that wasn't for us, you know, and it wasn't comedy.
00:06:47.600So I think in general, it's just a lot more sharing going on.
00:06:51.480And I think if it's, you know, the ladies from The View or a late-night show, I think we're going to know how they feel about politics nowadays.
00:09:24.720I don't feel like Colbert's been victimized and I don't feel like this is anything other than what shall be when you just do what you want to do.
00:09:56.040This was a truth social from last Tuesday.
00:09:58.320He said the word is, and it's a strong word at that,
00:10:01.440Jimmy Kimmel is next to go in the untalented late-night sweepstakes and shortly thereafter, Fallon will be gone.
00:10:08.220These are people with absolutely no talent who were paid millions of dollars for, in all cases, destroying what used to be great television.
00:10:14.320It's really good to see them go, and I hope I played a major part in it.
00:10:19.180Let's also then put up Kimmel's response.
00:10:23.200He said, I'm hearing you're next, responding to Trump.
00:10:26.580Or maybe it's just another wonderful secret.
00:10:29.060Alluding, of course, to that Wall Street Journal report that Donald Trump said something about a wonderful secret in a Jeffrey Epstein birthday book,
00:10:37.700which is something that sounds like a Mad Lib, but Adam, did you predict that Kimmel would become a chick this quickly?
00:10:46.540Well, first off, can we leave poor Jimmy Fallon out of this?
00:10:50.140That guy just does impersonations, does a great Bruce Springsteen, plays acoustic guitar.
00:12:42.420So, I cannot summon any negative words about Jimmy Kimmel.
00:12:47.020I don't agree with everything that comes out of his mouth, but I didn't agree with everything that came out of his mouth when we shared an office together for all those years.
00:12:55.500But I've always loved Jimmy and I've always felt indebted to Jimmy.
00:15:47.740Like, if the resistance wine moms are laughing at something that Colbert said and the, like, MAGA voters are laughing at something that a kind of right-wing coded comedian said, it's funny because people are laughing.
00:16:00.260It's sort of the same – it meets the same very low bar.
00:16:04.680Well, I don't – you know, I do think – I do think Trump is responsible for a lot of people's, I don't know, demise.
00:16:18.480I'm not talking about Kimmel, but I'm just saying, in general, he gets under their skin and then they get a sort of obsession with him and then they become preoccupied.
00:16:28.900And it's like in a movie – it's like in a basketball movie where you say to your little player, you know, go bug their star center.
00:18:10.760Speaking of babies, let's bring Adam Carolla back in to weigh in on Ellen DeGeneres, who is now in the United Kingdom for some reason.
00:18:19.280So let's go ahead and roll this clip of Ellen DeGeneres from last week, S7, talking about what she perceives as a grave injustice occurring under our noses here in the United States.
00:18:31.300People in America and Republicans who would quite like to undo the right for gay people to get married.
00:18:38.860I mean, that's back on the table as a debate, I think, isn't it?
00:19:41.480And I mean, look, I'll tell you truthfully sort of how it works when you do every show.
00:19:47.100Every show has its own kind of personality, the show itself.
00:19:52.580Not the on-air show, but the behind the scenes.
00:19:56.440They all take on sort of the personality of their leader.
00:20:01.880And it's sort of like when you go into a business and people are always all friendly or they go into a business and everyone's sort of douchey, you know,
00:20:48.320They're scared because Dave would scare them.
00:20:51.960And Ellen's show, people were scared, real scared.
00:20:55.780And I knew they were scared because it's like I was just sitting in my dressing room and they're like segment producer came in and he went, all right.
00:21:05.480So we went over all the stuff we're going to talk about, you know, Christmas vacation or whatever it was.
00:22:28.880But so she's not a nice person at all, which now everyone knows what I knew 15 years ago or whenever I learned it.
00:22:42.460But now that seems to be common knowledge, which I would I was trying to explain everyone how mean she was, not because she was mean to me, because everyone was scared of her, which means she's mean.
00:22:55.560So I wouldn't know it for my exchanges.
00:22:58.000I would know it with how her staff was cowering.
00:23:02.220What will the effect of the sparring between President Trump and the Federal Reserve be?
00:23:07.820Can the Fed take the right action at the right time?
00:23:09.980Or are we going to be looking at a potential economic slowdown?
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00:25:03.600They tried one thing, right, the last four years with Joe Biden.
00:25:06.480In this post-November 5th world where President Trump won overwhelmingly, they're switching back now because it's popular to love your family, to be healthy, to be active, to get outdoors, to promote traditional conservative values.
00:25:19.860That is what's popular now, and so Nike and a lot of these big brands, because of the free market, because of capitalism, they are going back to what they knew years ago, and it's why you see this side-by-side of how the ads looked years ago and how they look now.
00:25:33.720And, of course, some people are going to choose to be offended, but there is no guarantee in life that every single brand is going to have someone that looks like you in an advertisement, okay?
00:25:42.140If you want to get upset with Nike, that's fine, but you can also just go to buy the sneakers and the shorts and the athletic gear.
00:25:47.680That's what you're supposed to be in the store for.
00:25:49.380But there are also some other brands like Calvin Klein, right?
00:25:52.000Calvin Klein, Calvin Klein, which was all about hotness, right?
00:25:56.820Calvin Klein, they did all these hot ads with Mark Wahlberg and Nick Jonas.
00:26:01.120Everybody was doing these Calvin Klein ads, you know, in the 90s and the early 2000s.
00:26:06.920Calvin Klein decided to go woke and go broke.
00:26:09.260Also, I believe they put a bunch of, like, non-binary women with beards and men in dresses.
00:26:14.480Calvin Klein, I don't know what was happening in those marketing meetings.
00:26:17.080We'll put it up on the screen, but they decided to go woke and go broke as well.
00:26:21.460Now, can we just have some hot people, okay?
00:26:23.720Is it too much to ask that we have some hot people in ads?
00:26:27.540Maybe it will drive some traffic to the website.
00:26:29.680Maybe it will drive traffic to the stores.
00:26:31.060Because I don't want to see, like, some overweight, non-binary man, woman with a beard, like a freaking circus clown, selling me underwear.
00:26:54.200If you look at Bad Bunny, if you look at these other people in the Calvin Klein ads, they have clearly done an about face, a 180.
00:27:01.540They've left the non-binary Chewbacca trolls behind, and now they're prioritizing hotness.
00:27:07.400And what confuses me also when it comes to these brands that went so woke and so broke, non-binary people are, like, 0.0000 whatever percent of the population.
00:27:18.100But Calvin Klein, because of DEI, ESG, whatever, a lot of these big brands thought, we need to jump on this bandwagon.
00:27:25.820Sort of like Bud Light with Dylan Mulvaney.
00:27:27.800Let's stray from everything we've known and everything that's worked for years and try this ridiculous tomfoolery, buffoonery, and clownery.
00:27:41.100But also, this is something money can't buy because you'd have to spend a lot of money to get people talking about your brand.
00:27:46.160Now they're all talking about your brand.
00:27:48.500Now, last night, I was talking to my producer, and this reminded us of the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
00:27:53.360Now, as a gay man, a 100% gay man here in 2025, I will tell you with unequivocal certainty, I would make it appointment viewing to sit down and watch the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
00:28:26.580That is why I like the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
00:28:28.900And it's probably why a ton of you also tuned in to the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
00:28:32.860Well, a few years ago, they tried to cancel the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show because Ed Razek, one of the developers of Victoria's Secret, one of the producers of the iconic fashion show, made a comment about, oh, trans women aren't the fantasy.
00:29:20.280Unless you're insecure and you're not living in reality, you know that these are alien superhuman people who have personal trainers, personal chefs, plastic surgeons, estheticians.
00:30:11.400If American Eagle decides we're going to put Sidney Sweeney, a skinny little hot blonde chick on Genuine Hollywood in an advertisement, and you choose to be offended, that's on you.
00:30:20.740You're allowing that to erode your happiness and eat away at you.
00:30:32.180I don't make being gay my entire personality.
00:30:34.520And so for these folks at home, these liberals on the internet, they feel so upset when they see Sidney Sweeney or so upset when they see the Victoria's Secret fashion show and these skinny models because they're so insecure.
00:30:45.720They need such outside affirmation all of the time.
00:30:48.840They need to see someone who looks exactly like them, which is tough because some of y'all look like trolls and you look like Chewbacca.
00:30:56.420Some of these, like, LGBTQIA, R2D2 non-binary folks sitting around on TikTok with the pride flags in the background as we just showed you, they choose to be offended.
00:31:05.840But someone isn't always going to look like you in every single TV show.
00:31:08.960And they've ruined plenty of good TV shows, which we'll get to later in the episode, because they feel like they have to check every single box and every single quota.
00:31:16.260If you choose to be offended by Victoria's Secret, that's on you.
00:31:19.420If you choose to be offended by American Eagle, that's on you.
00:31:22.260And you should go look in the mirror and get comfortable with who you are and your own skin.
00:31:51.780Because a brand puts some skinny model who doesn't look like you in an advertisement.
00:31:56.200You can't be knocked off your rocker because someone makes a negative comment about the way you look maybe on your social media because that's the way the world is.
00:32:03.400Do the work to figure out who you are and to be confident and secure in who you are so you can go out into the world and get shit done.
00:33:42.080He wants to reengineer global trade by leveraging the U.S. market and other American advantages without hurting the American or global economy.
00:34:17.380This concept that we've had for decades that the federal government is just going to keep growing, he's figured out a way to change that.
00:34:25.500Again, popular, not in every respect, overreach in some areas.
00:34:30.600But this is another area that Democrats are simply criticizing.
00:34:34.520Finally, as I mentioned before, NATO, where Trump has ensured that terms and conditions apply now to be a member.
00:34:40.800He's changed the relationship from one where the European countries were free riding and freeloading to one now that's more transactional.
00:34:48.820It's a post-globalist arrangement in which the alliance can live on, but on terms that are far more favorable to the United States.
00:34:56.600Now, again, I'd say again, in each case, there are objectively downsides to what Trump has done.
00:35:01.960But I'll say also in each case that overall, these directionally are positive and popular, and no other recent president has had the requisite desire or drive to change the status quo in such a fundamental way.
00:35:17.260In this country, the Democrats simply accentuate the downsides of these achievements, they find and highlight the weak links, and there are weak links, rather than grappling with what's actually happening that I think is more important, that the trends in this country in terms of public opinion have fueled Trump's rise in capacity to get stuff done.
00:35:37.320Trump has understood where public opinion was on these issues and others, and the Democratic Party has been and largely remains clueless.
00:35:45.240OK, this is, to me, fundamental, if you're thinking about the connection between what Trump has done and what's happened with the Democratic Party.
00:35:55.480Trump has read the mood of where things are and these issues and others, and the Democrats have failed.
00:36:02.460The American left has failed on these and other issues.
00:36:05.420So if you look at Europe and the other industrialized democracies in the West, you see the same conditions that have grown over decades that have caused a rebellion against the parties on the left, out of control mass migration, out of control crime.
00:36:22.060The dominant influence of wokeness in all sorts of cultural institutions, the LGBTQ changes that many have seen as overreach, particularly in the area of trans censorship, overregulation, cancellation, neo-socialism, all these things exist in other countries.
00:36:41.440Kim Strassel has written about what's happened in the United States in The Wall Street Journal.
00:36:45.600Very good focus that most Democrats haven't even thought about.
00:36:50.100Open borders, unrestrained spending, supports for teachers' unions when they're acting antithetical to the interests of our kids.
00:36:59.500Bashing the police, being against Israel, the dominance of identity politics.
00:37:04.480All of this has caused Democrats in this country to lose support from demographic groups, independent of Donald Trump, although Trump has taken advantage of that.
00:37:12.820Imagine if the Democrats, if the Republicans, rather, were losing support from interest groups that had long been a bedrock of their electoral success.
00:37:21.120Imagine if the reverse were happening, how much the media would cover it.
00:37:45.340They haven't had Trump's level of aggressiveness tough enough and determined enough to take on the old order.
00:37:51.280So what's happened to these other countries with their left parties, their equivalents of the Democratic Party, is they're weaker than they were before.
00:37:59.500They haven't declined as precipitously, in most cases, the way the Democratic Party has, who is now as low as they've been in poll after poll.
00:38:07.940I'm thinking about this stuff, and I talked to some Democrats who are, but very few prominent Democrats, whether you're talking about people in elective office, you're talking about activists or writers or people in think tanks, they're not even vaguely grappling with this problem in public.
00:38:23.080Because they fear that the activists left will push them out of the party or cancel them, and because most of them lack the creativity and self-awareness that's required to say, how did this happen?
00:38:37.460Some of these trends go well before Donald Trump's rise.
00:38:40.280When the few Democrats do tepidly and timidly put their toe in the water and say, what have we done wrong, they do it in a way that doesn't really give voice to a full analysis of what's happened and what needs to happen next.
00:38:57.380Because they're afraid, as I said, of being canceled by the left.
00:39:00.340They're afraid of being out of step with the activist wing of the party.
00:39:03.800So, Neera Tanden, a liberal, advisor to Hillary Clinton, advisor to Joe Biden, one of the smartest people in the Democratic Party, in my experience, very knowledgeable.
00:39:13.080She wrote an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal, not in the Washington Post, not in the New York Times, but in the Journal, a conservative editorial page.
00:39:19.360And she admitted that the Biden administration that she was part of, a big part of it, in advising on domestic policy, screwed up on the Mexican border.
00:39:28.160And she called for comprehensive immigration reform.
00:39:30.720She rightly, in her piece, put in sharp relief all the unpopular elements of President Trump's immigration policies, because some of the things Donald Trump has done are unpopular on the border.
00:39:43.420But she also felt compelled to call for a path to citizenship for some of the people in this country illegally.
00:39:49.360That is known by many Americans as amnesty.
00:39:52.600And she criticized other elements of what Donald Trump has done to try to stay on the good side of her liberal wing of her party.
00:40:02.080If the Democrats can't figure out how to lead with being tough in 2028, whoever the Republicans nominate, whether it's Vance or somebody else, they'll make mincemeat of the Democrats.
00:40:14.260In Trump world, they laugh at how, even now, even after Donald Trump's victory in 2024 was clearly fueled in large port by immigration, they laugh at how much the Democrats still don't have a clue on immigration and a range of other issues.
00:40:31.060Then you think about New York City and the nomination by the Democrats of Mr. Mondani to be their mayoral candidate.
00:40:38.220The reaction to that, again, reveals how clueless far too many Democrats are about what his election would mean for their brand.
00:40:45.500Republicans are salivating at the notion of having Donald Trump be able to run against Mondani and campaign against him if he is the mayor of New York City.
00:40:55.760Now, there are people in Trump's orbit who don't want him to win because they think he'd ruin the city and some of them have pretty big investments in New York.
00:41:03.740But on the left, they continue to not grapple with what it would mean to elect someone with Mondani's background and stated positions on the economy and law enforcement, a range of other issues.
00:41:14.020There was an op-ed piece of The New York Times by a woman named Tressie McMillan-Kottom.
00:41:19.600She argued that the opposition to Mondani is based pretty much solely on his racial heritage rather than, say, the fact that he's a socialist.
00:41:27.600OK, New York Post's story this week talked about how so many prominent people in the party, in the Republican Party, plan to make Mondani the face of the Democrats.
00:41:38.580And then you have people like Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the leading Democrats in Congress, both from New York City.
00:41:44.700Kathy Hochul, the mayor of New York, the governor of New York.
00:41:47.080They know how dangerous this is politically for the party.
00:41:51.880But except for the fact that none of them, none of those three have publicly endorsed Mondani yet, they're frozen in amber because the base does not want to see them be outspoken against the nominee.
00:42:05.360And they're worried that he may win, but they're not doing anything, at least overtly, to stop his march to victory.
00:42:15.860I don't think that the current Democratic Party chair, Ken Martin, or the past party leaders, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, these folks are not well positioned to try to stop Donald Trump on his march to achieving more or to do the other task that needs to be done in parallel, rebuild their party's brand, to try to come up with policies and ideas and messengers that could really make a difference.
00:42:40.780OK, Trump's going to continue to have success and failures.
00:42:43.240The Democrats may do very well in the midterms.
00:42:47.760But in each case where Trump may have failure, I don't think it has much to do with the Democrats having a capacity to affirmatively and assertively meet the moment, to rethink why voters are so down on their brand, to change their image on the economy, on social issues.
00:43:04.140Because based on all the available evidence, the Democrats actually, right now, are in worse shape than the polling suggests.
00:43:11.980Because the polling is a snapshot of where we are.
00:43:16.160Again, because of the nature of the midterms, because we don't know where the economy will be, we don't know what's going to happen with the Epstein story, it's possible that the Democrats will have a good 2026.
00:43:26.760But the Democrats I talk to are far less worried about 2026 in the midterms because this history suggests that even weak, the party could still do well enough to take back the House.
00:43:39.100What they're worried about is the capacity of the party to redefine itself and to win back voters that'll need to win the White House, particularly because they are a party right now without strong candidates.
00:43:51.300The Democratic brand on its own right now, it appears to be on the wrong side of both the polling and of the history.
00:44:00.440It's a big problem to be on the wrong side of polling and of history.
00:44:03.200You think back to where did this start to go wrong?
00:44:05.760As I said, some of these trends have been around forever.
00:44:08.020But what's to me and talking to the smartest Democrats I know, what to me is their biggest concern is not the history, but the future.
00:44:18.220How can they fix this when so many of the dynamics on social issues, teachers unions, the economy, immigration?
00:44:27.640Government spending, relationship with NATO on so many of these issues, there's no reflection about where things went wrong.
00:44:37.900And it's very hard for Democrats to criticize Donald Trump and praise him, because if you give him any praise, think about in the first term with the Abraham Accords, ask any Democrat privately.
00:44:48.800What do you think of the Abraham Accords privately?
00:44:53.540Ask them what they think about shutting down the border.
00:44:55.640Most of them will say, great, huge accomplishment.
00:44:58.440But in our polarized red, blue America now, it's very hard for either party to praise.
00:45:03.940And you take heat from the base if you praise Donald Trump.
00:45:07.800And they're worried about what Donald Trump would do with that praise.
00:45:10.440But a realistic appraisal shows that Democrats are not getting on the right side of these issues.
00:45:19.300We're on the wrong side of public opinion, the wrong side of history.
00:45:23.400These other industrialized democracies, their liberal parties, have survived because they haven't faced Trump.
00:45:29.580And I'll say again, if you think Trump is a bad political athlete, you're making a mistake.
00:45:34.020Trump has lots of unpopular policy positions, but he knows how to mitigate them better than the Democrats know how to mitigate theirs.
00:45:42.340And he fights to get on the right side of issues when he's on the wrong side.
00:45:46.340Democrats, for instance, are counting on being on the right side of Medicaid and Medicaid spending and people on health care.
00:45:54.140Trump's not going to sit back passively and be on the wrong side of that.
00:45:57.260He'll do whatever he can as much as he needs to change.
00:46:00.240The Democrats have not shown the same level of awareness, the same level of nimbleness.
00:46:07.240And so I say again, this question, how did the Democrats go wrong?
00:46:11.660And there's plenty of other things we could list.
00:46:13.220We've talked about some of them here, trying to block Bernie Sanders from winning the nomination in 2016 and 2020, trying to keep Bobby Kennedy off the ballot, lawfare against Trump.
00:46:23.220There's a whole range of things that are kind of episodic that Democrats did, in part because of Trump derangement syndrome, in part because they were too wedded to the establishment of their party.
00:46:34.880It's a long list, but the core of the list is being on the right side of the issues that matter to the American people.
00:46:42.100I still rarely find any Democrats who can speak with passion about how they got on the wrong side of the issue of trans athletes and girls and women's sports.
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00:49:33.100She got famous when she was in her early 20s.
00:49:35.140I mean, we've been living with Gwyneth Paltrow for a long time, and if the best you can come up with is the headlines.
00:49:42.660Okay, so there were a few takeaways we got last week.
00:49:45.340One of the most Gwyneth anecdotes ever, she complained allegedly to a friend that she had to tell Brad Pitt the difference between beluga caviar and Ocetra caviar,
00:51:39.500So here's John explaining this sex act to a writer at Boing Boing in a piece that was published April 17th, 2009.
00:51:48.260John Waters, and I quote, teabagging, it sounds so dainty, doesn't it?
00:51:52.280It sounds like you took your teabag out of your fine china and you just put it daintily on the saucer out of your sight.
00:52:00.460Teabagging, John tells us, is, quote, by my definition, the act of dragging your testicles across your partner's forehead.
00:52:10.360In the UK, it is dipping your testicles into your partner's mouth.
00:52:14.880I didn't invent the term or the act, but I did introduce it in my movie Pecker.
00:52:20.460Teabagging was also a popular dance step that male go-go boys did to their customers for tips at the Atlantis and now defunct bar in Baltimore.
00:53:22.260She was going on social media posting images and video of herself to Katy Perry's girl on fire.
00:53:26.820Or, I'm sure, I'm sure during his infamous Oscar speech, which we all just revisited an episode or so ago, in which he said that their marriage was work.
00:53:36.940Or when he told Howard Stern that he drank himself into oblivion because he, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, this is a, what do you call it?
00:53:50.860I mean, I think Ben can take this one, okay?
00:53:52.720I think he can field it elegantly and just accept it as payback.
00:53:57.060And we will come back to him later, as promised, in the show when we get to J-Lo's latest onstage, I mean, I would call them sexploits, but that almost sounds like it's darker than that.
00:54:20.860Do you really want to read about how she got the idea or how she came to, you know, do Series A rounds of funding or how her, her, she interacts with her employees or her managerial style?
00:54:35.060Like, do you want to see the P&Ls, the profit and loss sheets?
00:54:47.500The only passage, by the way, that's relevant for our purposes at The Nerve, it goes to one Amy Griffin, who I think, I think her claims are specious at best.
00:54:59.200Those claims that are in the tell we addressed again in a recent episode, but I'm going to read the passage in this otherwise snooze of a book about, well, okay.
00:55:14.000So this graph first goes to Derek Blasberg, who, she does clock accurately in here.
00:55:23.040And he is the guy who last summer, Gwyneth was reportedly spreading the word that Derek had been a guest at her house in Amagansett and had fled in the middle of the night after literally shitting the bed.
00:55:40.960And he left a mess for the maids to clean up and didn't leave a note or apparently even send a text, giving a heads up.
00:55:49.960Fled like a thief in the night down Montauk Highway.
00:56:03.220Anyway, the author then goes on to say, Gwyneth's circle around this time also included Amy Griffin, wife of billionaire hedge fund founder John Griffin, whose firm G9 also invested in Goop.
00:56:21.540At first, Gwyneth told friends Griffin was one of her, quote, disciples and, quote, wants to be me.
00:56:44.860I also want to give you guys just a little peek behind the curtain as to how most of this stuff works, especially when it comes to unauthorized celebrity biographies.
00:56:53.100So, the author will have a meeting with sales and marketing about six months before the publication.
00:57:01.940And they will say to the author, what are the headlines?
00:57:05.520What's the stuff that nobody knew before?
00:57:07.280And that's the stuff we're going to try to plant as a first serial in, like, meaning like a serial edition in, like, a People magazine.
00:57:16.880We're going to try to get you booked on CBS Sunday Morning or The View or The Today.
00:57:22.580You know, one of the very, like, there are very few mainstream media outlets left you can go to.
00:57:29.020So, to get in is, like, is really hard.
00:57:31.580And so, usually what happens is, unless you are bringing something really weighty to your subject matter, it's going to be the flashy stuff that gets the headlines and the first serial in People magazine, which I believe was, like, three or four pages, like, with art.
00:58:07.000So, Gwyneth, just the other day, this started going viral.
00:58:11.980You know, her ex-husband is Chris Martin of Coldplay, who has found himself in the news cycle over the astronomer couple who are having an affair and have since been fired, let go, resigned, whatever.
00:58:24.900And so, I bet an astronomer went to her and they came up with this.
00:58:38.880I've been hired on a very temporary basis to speak on behalf of the 300-plus employees at Astronomer.
00:58:45.440Astronomer has gotten a lot of questions over the last few days, and they wanted me to answer the most common ones.
00:58:53.920Yes, Astronomer is the best place to run Apache Airflow.
00:58:58.040So, if you're listening, the question in that little typing sound accompanying that was a graphic that said Q colon underneath OMG period what the actual F.
00:59:17.020And then we get – so, that's likable Gwyneth.
00:59:21.560And see, this is where I really think a better author, a smarter one, frankly, would have been able to bring some sort of cultural criticism to bear here.
00:59:32.500Because you have a Gwyneth who can be completely likable and funny in something like that and, like, winking and nodding and we're all in on the joke.
00:59:41.580And then you get the totally insufferable Gwyneth, who last week was doing an Ask Me Anything for her podcast.
00:59:49.560And she's asked, what do you think your husband most loves about her?
00:59:57.580And this is what – buckle in, buckle in.
01:00:00.840This is a little bit of a lengthy segment, but we've got to run it at length for the full effect.
01:00:16.860Your physical beauty, the way your body moves through space, the way you disappear a little when you're working, the way your hands add something to a pan.
01:00:27.120Your love of dirty jokes and well-plastered walls.
01:00:31.240How much you know about art, that you feel so comfortable naked and hate fake people.
01:00:36.280I love when you're needy, when you're angry on the road.
01:00:39.360I love when you chug water by the bedside at night.
01:00:43.080I like the things you choose to worry about and how you handle problems.
01:00:47.000I love your morning routine and when you act like I've been demanding you to get out of the bath when I haven't said a word about it.
01:00:54.060I love the skin on the back of your knees and the arch of your feet and when you smile at me in bed after you've put in your retainers.
01:01:03.320I love how hard you try and how often you succeed.
01:01:37.480I mean, a person with a little more self-awareness and a little less narcissism would have stopped less than halfway through that text and said, this is a lot and I'm not going to subject you guys to it.