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00:00:12.260 manulife at manulife.ca health welcome to the megan kelly show live on sirius xm channel 111

00:00:19.600 every weekday at new east hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show oh we've got

00:00:30.700 a good show for you today steven a smith of espn is here and then victor davis hansen who's been on

00:00:37.280 vacation for the past insane month or so is here to weigh in on everything that's happened looking

00:00:44.080 forward to both of those conversations but first we begin with the character assassination of jd vance

00:00:51.080 jd vance is a threat to the democrats because he understands and is attractive to the working

00:00:56.380 class voters of the swing state rust belt including pennsylvania michigan and wisconsin in a way kamala

00:01:02.600 harris a san francisco liberal is not this in a nutshell is why the democrats and their media

00:01:07.400 allies are on an all-out campaign to destroy him first the governor of kentucky who is auditioning

00:01:13.660 to get on the ticket with kamala harris openly called jd vance a phony suggesting he's overstated

00:01:19.840 his connection to hillbilly culture and i want the american people to know uh what a kentuckian is

00:01:26.720 and what they look like because let me just tell you that jd vance ain't from here jd vance is a phony

00:01:33.620 he he's fake i mean he claims to be from eastern kentucky tries to write a book about it to profit

00:01:40.920 off our people and then he calls us lazy and he called them lazy acting like he understands our

00:01:47.440 culture and he's one of us he's not said it was weird that i attacked and this is in his words

00:01:53.080 his quote origin story fictional characters have an origin story real people have childhoods

00:02:02.260 so let me be clear jd vance ain't from kentucky he ain't from appalachia and he ain't gonna be

00:02:09.600 your vice president it's a lie it's a lie grew up in middletown ohio his family is from kentucky and

00:02:19.380 he spent his summers there as a kid with his grandparents uh this is pretty rich coming from

00:02:24.540 a guy whose daddy paved his way into kentucky legal circles and who unlike jd is not self-made did not grow

00:02:30.800 up in an abusive fatherless household with pepsi in his baby bottle but okay i guess he knows more

00:02:35.360 about the working class and their troubles than jd whose mother is right now a recovering heroin addict

00:02:40.160 in the wake of the assassination attempt against donald trump the democrats and the media may feel

00:02:46.320 may feel a tinge wary perhaps about immediately continuing their incendiary messaging about trump

00:02:53.160 being a racist sexist pig hitler not all of them the lincoln project released an ad comparing trump

00:02:59.320 to hitler within 48 hours of the shooting but some who better to turn on then than the young

00:03:05.700 attractive great american story holder jd vance jd who used to be more of an establishment republican

00:03:12.780 without much love for the 2016 version of donald trump went through a fairly significant change

00:03:17.820 on maga and its leader over the last eight years that's true this has led much of the media to assert

00:03:24.200 he's an opportunist he's a money grubber he's a phony just last night on cnn aaron burnett paraded out a

00:03:32.880 trans person who was one of jd's closest friends in law school this was despicable this coward angry

00:03:40.460 that jd vance does not support so-called gender affirming care for minors that's not what it is

00:03:46.580 ended their friendship over this issue and then released dozens of their private texts with jd

00:03:54.000 to the new york times then the person goes on cnn to call jd craven what i've seen is a chameleon

00:04:03.080 someone who is able to change their positions and their values depending on what will amass them

00:04:09.980 political power and wealth and i think that's really unfortunate because it reflects lack of

00:04:16.600 integrity he just started talking in this divisive dismissive and cool way about people who were

00:04:23.300 different from him and that is just not the person that i used to know not only did cnn allow this

00:04:30.500 person to mischaracterize jd vance's position he is against sex change procedures for minors not adults

00:04:38.360 they smeared his wife usha too suggesting she's also a whore for the mighty dollar well i don't think

00:04:45.620 anyone knows what jd or usha believe because they have literally changed their principles on every

00:04:51.960 imaginable issue what i think is reflected in both of their changing of their principles on every single

00:05:00.220 issue is that their core value is amassing money and power not the integrity and kindness

00:05:07.100 that i think are core values of everyone in the ross belt kindness this person wants to lecture us on

00:05:13.680 kindness as they stick the knife in both of these people who are very very good to this person who

00:05:20.020 goes by sophia i have no idea whether this is a biological woman posing as a man or vice versa i don't

00:05:24.960 care all of this ignores the fact that a genuine and heartfelt turnaround on donald trump

00:05:31.120 is not only possible it's fairly common in america just today the wall street journal has a piece up

00:05:37.120 noting that young men backed joe biden over trump in 2020 by 15 points today they backed donald trump

00:05:44.460 by 14 a 29 point swing even yours truly has had a turnaround on trump who you may recall was not my

00:05:54.180 favorite person and vice versa in the lead up to the 2016 election what caused my feelings to change

00:05:59.660 he governed he implemented policies to for example restore due process on college campuses for young men

00:06:06.400 accused of sexual assault he passed the anti-sex trafficking law protecting women and young girls

00:06:11.260 he revved up our economy he rolled back regulations he cracked down on illegal immigration he struck racist

00:06:17.060 dei policies from the federal government he kept us out of new wars and showed strength on the world stage

00:06:22.680 this after eight years of an american apologist in the white house i can relate to jd's reversal on trump

00:06:30.020 and i can relate to his change of heart on the trans issue too first of all i think this person is

00:06:35.760 despicable for attacking attacking their old friends publicly in this way jd went to visit this person

00:06:42.560 after their gender surgery with like food and comfort he showed kindness and love throughout because he

00:06:52.060 doesn't want these barbaric procedures being performed on children now he's evil come on and cnn with no

00:07:00.040 pushback with any of that as our audience well knows i too used to think the kindest route was to support

00:07:06.660 kids who say they're trans however possible and i now see this issue so very differently we are hacking

00:07:13.400 up children's bodies we are ending their fertility we are ruining their chance at a healthy sex life

00:07:18.740 all in the name of not offending the radical trans activists and it is morally unforgivable

00:07:26.320 this is the democrats policy and it is harshly anti-woman women and young girls are being forced

00:07:33.960 to share locker rooms and bathrooms and showers with men who parade around with their penises out

00:07:38.900 not to mention share their prison cells with serial male rapists i guess we don't care because

00:07:45.960 they're prisoners who cares what happens to the female prisoners i do they're forced to compete

00:07:52.260 against men in sports in which teenage girls are suffering injury and permanent nerve damage field

00:07:57.760 hockey volleyball basketball boxing how is any of this pro women but the democrats want you to believe

00:08:05.820 the real problem is jd vance's view that childish childless leftist politicians don't have the same kind

00:08:12.780 of skin in the game that pro-family politicians with kids do is disqualifying now even some republicans

00:08:19.820 are suggesting maybe trump should dump vance over this whole thing the wall street journal just did a

00:08:26.720 podcast on this very subject surprise surprise they're owned by rupert murdoch who desperately wanted

00:08:32.740 doug burgum as the vp nominee according to the papers that position is patently absurd

00:08:40.180 and ignores the gop long history with the media the problem with jd vance is not his comments about

00:08:46.740 women and the solution to his problems with the press is not finding a better more moderate nominee

00:08:52.780 the gop has tried that if you do not think the press would be doing this exact thing to doug burgum or

00:09:01.240 glenn youngkin or ron de santis or nikki haley you haven't been paying attention they tried to paint

00:09:09.100 john mccain as a racist for weeks after he released an ad in the 2008 campaign comparing barack obama

00:09:19.000 to paris hilton and britney spears a celebrity not a serious person he's the biggest celebrity in the world

00:09:26.920 but is he ready to lead ezra klein called that ad crypto racist bill press deliberately racist

00:09:36.840 liberal blogger john marshall mccain portrayed obama as a caricature of an uppity black man

00:09:42.820 don lemon mccain incited hate hat tip to joe concha by the way for some of these reminders

00:09:48.760 john mccain who adopted a three-month-old bangladeshi girl from an orphanage his daughter

00:09:54.800 bridget a racist sure no surprise though according to pew research the unfavorable articles about john

00:10:01.880 mccain outweighed the favorable by a nearly four to one margin less than 14 of mccain's press was

00:10:08.600 positive in the lead up to the election obama's 71 positive or at least mixed how about mit romney

00:10:17.820 four years later in 2012 they practically made the man into a harvey weinstein after an innocent

00:10:23.960 comment at a town hall about wanting to hire more female employees and reviewing binders full of

00:10:29.060 women to make sure he found them you would have thought he said he liked to grab women by the p word

00:10:33.980 here's just a small sample oh hello i was just taking a look at governor romney's binders the idea

00:10:42.400 to go and ask where qualified woman was he just should have come to my house but i'm not surprised

00:10:49.400 that he needed the help i'm less concerned about his awkward construction and what it might say about

00:10:54.280 his attitudes than i am about his record which is poor what does that mean i don't know but he had

00:11:00.000 binders were they naked it was a decent answer from a guy who clearly does not give a crap about

00:11:06.820 gender equality right you would think he would at least keep all the women in the kitchen romney's

00:11:10.440 like oh damn it they came with a binder full of women we don't have to collect a bunch of binders to

00:11:16.160 find qualified talented driven young women ready to learn and teach binders of qualified women that

00:11:23.240 he learned we're out there we catholics call that an epiphany they also played the race card with

00:11:32.180 romney arguing his push for welfare reform akin to what bill clinton pushed through was racist

00:11:40.180 debbie wasserman schultz just as one example head of the dnc told us flat out she called it a

00:11:45.880 shockingly transparent attempt to play the race card and on and on and on it went look the target

00:11:53.160 here is not jd vance just as it wasn't mitt romney or john mccain it's any republican up against a

00:11:58.920 democrat especially in a presidential race it does not matter the man it only matters the party they

00:12:06.100 will take perfectly benign comments and make them truly awful there is no avoiding this so stop

00:12:13.020 pretending that there is finally a word on reversals jd vance is accused of having changed his mind on

00:12:21.080 trump and gender procedures and even on cops his ex-trans friend says he hated police and produced

00:12:27.400 a text message reflecting that but now he praises them from the stump reversals absolutely fair game

00:12:34.260 for a campaign but that rule must apply to both sides in the course of hours kamala harris has reversed

00:12:42.840 herself on no less than four major policy positions she wanted to ban fracking now she says she doesn't

00:12:49.800 she wanted to take away private health insurance now she says she doesn't she wanted to institute a

00:12:54.980 mandatory gun buyback program in connection with an assault weapons ban now she says the buyback program

00:13:00.480 is a no-go and she backed biden's hands-off approach to the border until days ago when she said she now

00:13:05.820 supports more funding for enforcement how did the press respond by highlighting her old positions and calling

00:13:11.600 her a flip-flopper a political opportunist guess again here's politico harris campaign pledges she won't ban fracking

00:13:21.600 after trump accusation quoting trump accusation how about after she said repeatedly that she would ban fracking

00:13:32.480 on camera and elsewhere the body of the piece actually says the harris campaign is now pledging not to ban fracking

00:13:39.660 quote rejecting what it called false accusations by donald trump that she would if elected president

00:13:46.700 end quote you know it's a he said she said instead of this was absolutely her position and there's zero

00:13:54.800 doubt about it roll tape what a fail politico you ought to be ashamed bottom line is this the republicans

00:14:03.480 are always up always up against dishonest media that loathes them they were in 08 they were in 12 with

00:14:11.880 moderate across the aisle kind of nominees like mccain and romney and they are with trump and vance

00:14:19.600 the solution is not to reassess the nominees the solution is to fight fire with fire stay on offense

00:14:27.320 call out the bs and as donald trump said two weeks ago blood dripping down his face after being shot

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00:15:40.140 rates may apply joining me now for the first time ever espn's stephen a smith he is the host of the

00:15:47.180 stephen a smith show and author of the deeply personal book out last year straight shooter a

00:15:52.900 memoir of second chances and first takes stephen a welcome to the show it's been a long time megan

00:15:59.680 how are you how you doing how's everything i hope you and your family are well thank you very much all

00:16:05.300 is well with me it's such it's been such a crazy month right how are you experiencing it from your

00:16:11.780 side i know you want to vote for kamala but are you feeling euphoric like we see with a lot of

00:16:17.420 no leaners no no no no i'm not um and i wouldn't say i i want to vote for kamala i'm an independent and

00:16:25.640 i've been on the record on many many occasions that i would have voted for a republican if it were

00:16:30.660 anybody but trump um i just view him as a divisive force that i would be i think would be on a

00:16:36.620 vengeance tour and that's just that's just my thinking but i'm not going to fault anybody especially

00:16:41.240 somebody as knowledgeable as yourself feeling differently particularly with the cases with the

00:16:46.040 cases that you've articulated nevertheless i would tell you that i'm just happy that biden's gone

00:16:51.560 and you know when i was talking about the whole trump kamala harris thing on my on my podcast slash show

00:16:59.140 one of the things that i i got excited about megan was that i love the idea of a competition from the

00:17:05.660 standpoint of what kind of things that you just articulated because so much has gone we've been

00:17:11.120 talking so much about what trump was going through in terms of the civil suits you know the criminal

00:17:16.940 cases and all of this other stuff that was going on with him you know but still he was the presumptive

00:17:22.560 gop nominee who is now the gop nominee officially you have to deal with this man and this is something

00:17:28.020 that i've been saying for a year and i thought i got a lot of heat from it particularly from the

00:17:33.260 african-american community because people wanted me to focus on that and i was like no i said the man

00:17:38.280 is going to be the gop nominee you're going to have to beat him and so my attitude is okay kamala harris

00:17:45.380 you're the one you're the presumptive democratic nominee now you're going it's going to be official

00:17:49.960 come mid to late august let's get it on let's find out who indeed is the best candidate for the job

00:17:55.860 compared to you two let's see what you do going up head to head against one another

00:17:59.800 what do you make of what they did with biden and the elevation of harris without a single person

00:18:05.280 voting for her i didn't have a problem with the elevation of harris because she was the vp

00:18:10.880 i did have a problem with how they clearly were lying to all of us about what was going on with

00:18:16.840 biden uh sean hannity had played it chris cuomo had played it almost a year ago i said we need a new

00:18:24.460 president it's it's slippage it's too flagrant it's too obvious um he he does not need we don't need i

00:18:31.780 think one of the most embarrassing moments that i've ever seen in politics is when biden gave his

00:18:36.660 state of the union address and folks were standing up chanting four more years that to me was utterly

00:18:42.100 ridiculous you knew he was going to be 82 by the time election day rolled around and you're talking

00:18:47.780 about four more years but you call yourself a progressive party i just thought that that was utterly

00:18:52.980 ridiculous and so it was some of the things that i was pointing to in terms of the cognitive decline

00:18:57.960 or what have you clearly had lost his fastball to some degree he wasn't there and then we saw the

00:19:03.060 debate on june 27th and it was obvious uh that that you know what i had been saying for months was

00:19:09.140 absolutely correct so clearly it was a change that needed to be made i have no problem with kamala harris

00:19:15.060 being that nominee and in place of him considering the fact that she is the vice president and the

00:19:21.720 campaign dollars that were thrown in his direction it is it is the biden harris campaign not just the

00:19:26.680 biden campaign i just thought that it was too late in the game to even go in a different direction

00:19:31.060 but i also am a bit salty at the fact that there was no primary there was no battle to for anybody to

00:19:37.700 oppose joe biden for him to really really show that he was capable to begin with to even show up to the

00:19:43.660 debate this past june 27th so that's where i'm at with it do you there's a debate going on now about

00:19:50.740 how much kamala harris should be held responsible for what republicans are terming the big lie

00:19:56.420 about joe biden's mental acuity and um there's a republican strategist alex castellanos who says

00:20:04.440 don't go there because most people are going to forgive her he's her boss she kind of had to do it

00:20:09.960 what was she going to do run around saying he's not compass mentis you know he can't do it um but

00:20:15.640 this is definitely a line that's being pushed by team trump and others against kamala harris as she

00:20:21.480 was in on it and she should be held responsible for not outing his condition how do you feel

00:20:26.940 i don't feel i don't i don't agree with with trump's folks on that regard because i think it's too late

00:20:31.740 in the game for all of that look my man you're the gop nominee go up there and beat her you know what

00:20:36.660 record does she have you've been touting the fact that you have a record and she really really doesn't

00:20:40.960 you've been saying all of these things and now you know you were when it was biden you were talking

00:20:45.640 about how not one not two i'll debate in five different times let's get it on but all of a

00:20:50.460 sudden it's somebody that's 19 years younger than you instead of three or four years older than you

00:20:55.740 and now you're talking all of this we don't want to hear that you know i and i and i took a lot of hits

00:21:00.340 for this uh megan as well i said listen uh regardless of the cases the legitimacy of some of the

00:21:05.900 cases that were against him the fact of the matter is that when you talked about engaging in law fear

00:21:10.740 the line that he kept saying that was resonating with me is you guys are doing this because you

00:21:15.980 can't beat me you can't beat me well now you've got a vice president who's the who's the presumptive

00:21:21.520 democratic nominee that's saying let's get it on i'm going to beat you i know i can beat you i want

00:21:27.060 to take you on let's have a debate let's go at it she's doing exactly what you were saying they didn't

00:21:33.000 want to do and so when i look at it from that standpoint it has me looking forward to the

00:21:37.740 campaign and it has me looking forward to what i believe will be an imminent debate and so because

00:21:42.660 of that that's what i want to see don't don't try to distract us with oh she didn't dime out her boss

00:21:48.420 there's a lot of people that's not going to do that i mean if you're a part of an administration

00:21:52.980 no matter what what slippage you may see you're not going to go out there and advertise it to the

00:21:57.960 world you're going to talk about things internally and that's where i give credit to senator booker

00:22:02.000 cory booker when he was questioned about what they're going to do in terms of the democrats that

00:22:07.660 were looking for biden to step away and step aside cory booker did not lie he simply said these are

00:22:14.600 conversations that should be had in private it shouldn't be have it shouldn't happen in public

00:22:19.300 now whether you agree or disagree it wasn't a deceitful comment he was simply saying i think we

00:22:24.900 should be this should be handled in-house i if he's telling biden you need to step aside he's saying

00:22:30.780 i'm not going to advertise it to the world i'm going to tell the president i think you need to

00:22:33.820 step aside and whether we agree or disagree with that i don't think that's a position to be offended

00:22:38.500 by is what i'm saying and so i say we just move on from here how can she not be held accountable when

00:22:45.100 she also took an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united states and if she saw a man

00:22:51.040 who now is essentially admitting he is he cannot be president if she saw that didn't she have an

00:22:58.260 obligation to do something about it as far as we know she did absolutely nothing about it and let

00:23:03.500 him remain in control and he's still in control well you're right megan if she did nothing what i'm

00:23:10.620 saying is if she did if she spoke whether it was to senator schumer whether it was to nancy pelosi

00:23:20.480 whether it was to senator booker uh you know house rep hakeem jeffries uh former president barack

00:23:26.960 obama and others if she were working internally to make sure those issues were being addressed

00:23:33.380 because of what she witnessed and she saw but she didn't just go outside and in a public forum

00:23:39.620 come across as betraying the administration that she works under i don't have a problem with that

00:23:45.300 you are right if she did absolutely nothing i don't know that she did nothing because look what

00:23:51.700 ultimately ended up happening it not it i think it's i think it took too damn long but the bottom

00:23:57.640 line is he's not going to be he's not going to have a chance to be the president in 2025 and that's

00:24:04.200 the bottom so what do you what should happen with him right now because a lot of folks are saying how

00:24:08.600 like i just said how can he not yeah should he step down because every day we got another example i don't

00:24:14.760 know if you saw this yesterday but he's getting off uh air force one and somebody shouted out to him

00:24:19.220 that uh speaker mike johnson said i think it's his supreme court reforms that he proposed are dead

00:24:25.600 on arrival they said he's okay dead on arrival and we'll play the clip you can't hear the president

00:24:30.520 he can't hear it but what joe biden said was he's dead on arrival and this reporter's like what and

00:24:49.200 he said it again he's dead on arrival that makes no sense he's not making any sense that particular

00:24:55.420 quote right there makes no sense i can't argue with you i'm not going to even try to argue with

00:24:59.580 you on that one megan you're absolutely right but what i will say is this he's the president

00:25:04.020 of the united states he's got about five months to go um when i look at it from that standpoint and i

00:25:09.440 look at the kind of things that he's trying to accomplish within his administration we all know

00:25:14.220 at the end of the day there's a whole bunch of people that work for an administration that go about

00:25:17.960 the business of getting things done a lot of times one of the things that i lament i'm just saying

00:25:22.340 i'm it could it could be no i hear you but we didn't elect them i agree but you know listen you

00:25:28.680 know a hell of a lot better than me megan that's not how it works the people that we elect ended up

00:25:33.360 end up actually doing the little the littlest amount of work it's the people that work for

00:25:37.860 them that go about the business of pounding the pavement we have the ultimate decision maker

00:25:42.000 we have the ultimate decision makers the commander-in-chief you know ultimately it was

00:25:45.760 barack obama who had to say okay go ahead and take out bin laden that's true donald trump who had to

00:25:50.960 say go ahead and take out soleimani and those are the men who by the way risked their lives by making

00:25:55.540 those decisions you know there was that iranian hit that was just taken out on trump was in response

00:25:59.500 for the solema so it we do respond especially in the commander-in-chief role to one decision maker

00:26:04.980 and we don't seem to have that right now well let me depress you with this because you cover

00:26:10.200 politics far more intensively than i ever want to let me say this to you one of the things that i've

00:26:15.940 said to people i said do you realize the times that we're living in megan the work is in

00:26:20.860 the campaign that's it once you're an elected official i've seen politicians literally publicly

00:26:29.420 stating we didn't read the bills all we do is get somebody to look over and give us some cliff notes

00:26:34.080 and we sign it they don't work they if you're a democrat you're gonna side with the democrats

00:26:39.120 if you're a republican you're gonna side with republicans they talk about how many seats are

00:26:43.580 separated in the house between the democrats and the and the republicans they're not doing any real

00:26:49.360 work once they get in there that's the problem with politics that's the problem because you don't

00:26:55.120 really have to do the work comes with the campaigning once you're in office you literally

00:27:00.440 just have to march along the party line you really do and that's the sad part about it and and if if

00:27:06.940 i'm wrong tell me because you would know better than me i'm i'm certainly not about to challenge you

00:27:11.160 i'm just telling you what i'm seeing and i've seen literally seen politicians literally talk about

00:27:16.740 we haven't even read the bill yeah well this is where we're gonna vote i mean there's no question

00:27:21.420 a lot of them are lazy and they don't do their work on capitol hill and in the white house but

00:27:25.320 the president of course still has massive powers and can shape yes he does really fundamental policies

00:27:29.780 you know i mean i mentioned in my opening the title nine changes and what's happened on college

00:27:33.780 campuses and you know if you have a young man a son who goes to a college campus under joe biden and

00:27:39.920 gets accused of sexual assault he basically has no due process rights he's effed he's going to get

00:27:44.580 labeled an accuser just based on an accusation i mean an offender and he's probably going to get

00:27:49.820 expelled with very little remedies under donald trump he reversed that he just restored due process he

00:27:54.500 didn't take away women's right to be heard he just made the system a little bit more fair and balanced

00:27:59.660 for all parties involved that's just that's that is within the power of an executive you know you decide

00:28:05.780 what do we want to do to title nine what do we want to do to in various procedures and laws anyway i do

00:28:11.860 think there's still massive power in that office and i'm not denying that what i'm saying though

00:28:16.180 megan is that in the end you're still walking along party lines you're going to do what most people if

00:28:23.560 not everybody within your party wants you to do that's the time that we're living in that's the

00:28:30.100 unfortunate part where you're looking for the maverick you're looking for the independent let me ask you

00:28:34.840 follow up please i i believe that joe biden and kamala harris even though joe biden ran as a

00:28:39.580 centrist and more moderate dem he's been governing governing more from the left and i believe that is

00:28:44.420 because the team around him is more left and i think the trans issue is a good issue to show this

00:28:50.160 because i don't think for one minute that joe biden actually is in favor of these procedures on

00:28:56.200 minors or letting 14 year old girls get their breasts chopped off i don't think that man actually

00:29:00.400 supports that and i actually think that most normal democrats don't want that either and they

00:29:06.860 definitely don't want boys and girls sports the polls show that that's opposed by 70 percent of

00:29:12.540 the american people so why is he doing that right like what he is governing more leftists than the

00:29:17.860 populace because because because of political expediency um and i know with him it sounds crazy

00:29:24.060 because he's 81 and this is it for him 36 years in the senate eight years as the vice president

00:29:28.280 four years as the president um you would think that enough time has been served and you know you

00:29:33.740 get to operate with a level of freedom and dare i say impunity in the event that you put off some

00:29:39.120 people but nevertheless sometimes folks are concerned about their legacy they're concerned about

00:29:43.960 towing along party lines to appease the people that have supported them along the way

00:29:48.260 these are the kind of things that i think have elevated the profile of a donald trump dating back

00:29:53.640 to 2016 because you have folks that felt like these elected officials weren't our own that the people

00:30:00.000 that we put in office that went up there on capitol hill were doing their own things and they were doing

00:30:04.120 it for themselves or for political expediency purposes where they could remain in office and they could

00:30:09.140 continue to pad their wallets and do whatever and do whatever else they could do i think that that

00:30:13.740 ultimately was the birth of donald trump because donald trump comes across as a maverick that's going to do

00:30:18.800 things his way and it's going to get them to do what he wants them to do as opposed to it being the

00:30:23.160 other way around and you have tens of millions of american citizens that are very attracted to that

00:30:28.960 fair enough but most politicians if not damn near all of them are all about the business of making sure

00:30:36.360 that they retain power and they remain in a position of influence and power where they can they could

00:30:42.520 push their agendas and their objectives forward along party lines and in willing and having a

00:30:48.740 willingness to do that you're subjected to the whims of of the party itself and that is why to the big

00:30:55.460 money donors why this is enter the big money donors and the lobbyists and that's why you have so many of

00:31:00.560 the american people so damn turned off on both sides which is why we hear more noise from the fringes

00:31:06.460 as opposed to the centrists because centrists like myself are like there's got to be a better way let's

00:31:11.500 operate with the quorum let's find you know some peace amongst us somehow some way to work compromise

00:31:17.120 it's not something that we're allergic to and you have people who think like that but folks on the

00:31:21.580 fringes are like damn that we don't want to hear that enough of that and they're you know they're

00:31:26.660 making a lot of noise and that's the reason why in my opinion yeah no you're not wrong the pritzkers

00:31:32.600 are big big money uh donors to this cause and they've gotten a lot of democrats elected and they will

00:31:37.880 not go silently into the night if you don't back them on the trans radical stuff even though the

00:31:42.640 populace again is against it i want to get back to that when we talk about the olympics in a minute

00:31:46.140 but let me just double back to the the discussion about the debates i'm actually very interested in

00:31:50.380 the debate um i think it will happen i definitely think they'll debate i don't know how many times i

00:31:55.460 hope it's three but times away so do i um i think the reason trump said no to the debate

00:32:01.220 as scheduled is on the democrats entirely i think he agreed to the two debates that biden said he

00:32:08.740 would do trump said what whatever you want i'll do it i'll do it with abc who i know i know doesn't

00:32:14.300 like me i'll do a cnn who i know doesn't like me and i'll do it without a studio audience even though

00:32:20.000 i want that i'll do it with the mic's cut even though i don't want that all of your terms i accept

00:32:24.760 and it went so poorly for his opponent that he dropped out of the entire race why should trump

00:32:30.920 agree to this second debate with all the things that he didn't want he only agreed because he

00:32:37.360 really wanted to get across from biden now that the whole situation has changed why why isn't it

00:32:42.880 let's start over let's have a real negotiation about what network will host it what the terms of

00:32:48.220 the debate will be let's have that and then i will be there but i'm not just going to go with

00:32:52.500 the debate that i didn't really love because i really wanted to make joe biden do it now that

00:32:57.020 joe biden's gone well what i would say to you is this first things first you can know there's nothing

00:33:04.440 wrong with him renegotiating the terms i'm certainly not implying that he's just supposed to show up

00:33:09.580 under whatever conditions they want without taking himself into consideration what i'm saying is you

00:33:15.780 talked a lot of smack about how you'll debate biden anytime anyplace anywhere because you knew that

00:33:21.900 even though he was older somebody like nancy pelosi is older but you don't see the slippage from her

00:33:26.600 that you see from joe biden so you saw an opportunity to take advantage of an aging individual

00:33:32.980 that had some slippage that clearly had lost his fastball and you were gung-ho about going after

00:33:38.260 that individual well this is his vice president who doesn't have that problem but obviously is somebody

00:33:45.060 that supports all the same policies well if that's what this is about you shouldn't have a problem

00:33:49.980 going up against her either and then remember megan but wait because you're a sports guy you're a

00:33:54.660 sports i was going there i was going to the sports i know zero about sports okay because i feel like

00:33:59.780 in sports you know you would renegotiate to make sure the rules are are fair right you you might give

00:34:05.300 up all the advantages on the football field to the other side let them have the coin toss in their

00:34:08.720 favor whatever however it works that's about as much as i can do as the sports analogy but but

00:34:13.640 he doesn't have to do that with her now it's a level playing field so why would he go in and say

00:34:18.900 okay you get all the advantages i was going to give to him you don't it's level let's renegotiate

00:34:22.940 let's go on fox let's do it someplace that's well again again for me i'm i'm not opposed to the

00:34:27.560 renegotiation i told you that but what i'm saying to you is to use a sports analogy well let me give

00:34:32.160 you a sports analogy since you brought it up it was simple i'm gonna keep it simple i'm gonna keep

00:34:36.760 it simple for you if you want to go up against the boston celtics because you know what they got

00:34:42.020 jason tatum and they got jalen brown they're pretty damn good but we think we can take them right

00:34:46.860 and you're in pursuit of a championship when they acquired a seven foot three chris steps

00:34:52.860 porzingis you don't get to say oh i don't go against i don't want to go against them now i'm

00:34:57.140 not going to go against them now no you still got to go against them do you want the chip or not

00:35:00.520 do you want the championship or not well that's standing in your way they didn't have chris steps

00:35:04.380 was against the year before but they had him the next year you got to go up against him you don't get

00:35:09.120 to run dillabron james is still one of the greatest in the world you want to go up against the

00:35:13.420 lakers that's who's waiting for you you don't get to say he won't debate i would be with you if he

00:35:18.320 were saying i'm not debating her he's not saying that he's like let's do it i want to do it but

00:35:22.280 we'll renegotiate it and he said let's do it on fox why doesn't she just say yeah let's do it on fox

00:35:26.420 fox will be very fair i have no problem opinion host will be brett and martha i have no problem

00:35:31.500 with it whatsoever i'm just saying we want to debate i want to see kamala harris versus donald trump

00:35:37.940 that's what i want to see and remember and remember i don't know if you i don't know if you

00:35:41.660 know this trump and i haven't spoken since 2014 before we haven't we haven't we haven't spoken

00:35:47.240 since then back then yeah he was obviously heavily involved in the world of sports and we used to see

00:35:52.860 him at sporting events whatever he was always somebody that was very very kind to me i don't

00:35:57.260 like what i've seen in terms of his behavior since he ran for president and that's why you know i

00:36:01.500 haven't communicated but you know before then clearly you know he was a guy that was ingratiated and

00:36:07.000 connected to the world of sports and this guy you know when you talk about competition this is

00:36:12.780 somebody that i know loves it and embraced it all of the years that i knew of him i didn't know him

00:36:19.240 personally or anything like that we would just see each other in passing but that was his reputation

00:36:23.920 for those of us within the african-american community within the sports community and beyond

00:36:28.280 white black and beyond with his boxing matches at trump casinos with you know some of him showing up

00:36:35.360 at nick games and things of that nature he was about competition he wanted to be an nfl owner he

00:36:40.780 was trying to acquire ownership of the buffalo bills in 2014 and that was the last time we spoke

00:36:46.740 megan and at that time as i've said publicly on numerous occasions he called me and he said i want

00:36:53.180 to own the buffalo bills and the price tag was about 1.4 billion dollars for the franchise at that

00:36:58.860 time and he said these mf is better not getting their way in my way talk about the nfl owners he

00:37:06.460 said if they do i'm gonna get them all back i'm gonna run for president that's exactly what he said

00:37:12.120 to me and sure enough you know it didn't happen and he ran for president and i don't think any of

00:37:18.300 them thought he would win but here we are promises made promises kept right yeah that's right that's

00:37:23.620 what okay so let me ask you we're on sports a little bit about the olympics and what's happening

00:37:28.700 over there did you catch any of the opening ceremony and um yes did you really enjoy their

00:37:33.920 their tribute to christianity and the last supper no i didn't no i didn't no i didn't i i played it

00:37:40.140 on my podcast yesterday i played their explanation they said that you know they weren't trying to

00:37:45.620 emulate the last supper and they made some kind of explanation for that or what have you but i saw

00:37:50.540 what speaker mike johnson said i saw what others have said and you know what religion is a very

00:37:56.400 very powerful thing there's no question about that and and as i've been taught over the years

00:38:01.140 a lot of times people go to the polls and you know it's their one salient issue in their mind

00:38:08.140 and that determines what they how they're going to vote and who they're going to vote for and when

00:38:14.480 you mess with folks religion in any way perceived or literal or otherwise it could potentially be a

00:38:21.220 price to pay i think that there's about you know 2.4 2.6 billion christians in this world um and in

00:38:28.760 this country obviously you know a vast majority of american citizens consider themselves christians and

00:38:34.880 you just never know how that's going to affect i i spoke to several people that were highly offended

00:38:40.380 because they were watching the opening ceremony with their kids and they didn't see that coming

00:38:44.380 and they didn't anticipate that and they were very very put off with that i didn't understand why it

00:38:49.640 was necessary at the olympics or what have you but they do what they do and that's just the way it goes

00:38:55.820 what can you say it's we're the greatest group for offense because they know we won't riot in the

00:39:01.640 streets we're not going to kill anybody if you insult jesus uh like we see if you even draw the

00:39:06.780 prophet muhammad and it's just it's gone too far i'm sick of it too you want to watch the opening

00:39:10.860 ceremonies like that it's supposed to be something that brings us together stevenite right it's like

00:39:15.100 yeah the olympics the reason you watch is to have that few moments of like yeah we're all together

00:39:20.720 sports and the athletes and they completely ruined it and they made a lot of families not want to watch

00:39:26.400 it at all which is an insult to the athletes yeah i don't disagree i don't disagree because that's

00:39:31.540 a lot of people were calling me and saying that very very same thing family members friends and

00:39:36.220 what have you you'd be surprised so many times in this country uh in particular you know we're

00:39:40.920 divided on a lot of different things but there are some things that we come together on and a lot of us

00:39:45.100 are unified in terms of our thinking and when you watch the opening ceremonies you didn't anticipate

00:39:50.040 seeing that and so when you saw that you knew that a lot of people were going to have a problem with it

00:39:55.320 i certainly understood where they were coming from okay i want to talk about men performing in the

00:40:01.120 olympic games in the women's categories the international olympic committee committee not

00:40:06.660 known for its like courage um decided to leave this issue to the individual sports to decide whether it

00:40:13.040 would be okay or not and in boxing in boxing they're allowing it okay so now you've got two i don't know

00:40:22.920 how to describe these people to be honest with you all i know is they reportedly have x y chromosomes

00:40:27.680 which in my book is a man i don't know if they're intersex you know whatever it doesn't matter they're

00:40:33.700 they have x y chromosomes and they have high testosterone and both were disqualified at the

00:40:39.800 2023 world championships for quote failing gender eligible eligibility tests um but however

00:40:46.520 they're going to participate in paris one is from algeria a main caliph and one is from taiwan

00:40:54.980 lin ya tang you tang and this imane caliph this person boxed against a mexican opponent brianda

00:41:03.500 tamara back in december of 2022 it was posted on x there's a little bit of the video here

00:41:08.800 um and just my god beat the hell out of this woman and she said the female opponent said you know

00:41:17.560 during this fight i felt very out of my reach this person's blows against me hurt me a lot i don't

00:41:23.440 think i've ever felt this way in my 13 years as a boxer not in my sparring uh with anyone including

00:41:29.260 men and thank god i got out of the ring safely it's good that i did is this right is this fair

00:41:37.620 should this be allowed i don't think it should be i've been on the record stating that on many many

00:41:42.240 occasions and again i'm a centrist who leans left i'm a fiscal conservative i'm fiscal with my dollars

00:41:49.560 okay make no mistake about it but i'm so i'm socially liberal for the most part but there are

00:41:54.700 lines that get crossed and when you talk about women competing against men uh particularly in a sport

00:42:01.300 like boxing it becomes incredibly incredibly alarming i remember there was a swimmer and it's swimming

00:42:06.720 obviously so that's different and it's a non-violent sport but i think there was a i forget his name

00:42:11.800 i apologize it's my it's my lane but i forgot his name there we go there we go and you're you're you're

00:42:17.640 you're like 400th in the world you know amongst men and and then obviously you you had the you know

00:42:25.120 the gender transformation and you're number one i mean it's like you're just saying this up you know

00:42:31.220 at least ask the question in our society we pride ourselves on fairness we certainly want to be as

00:42:38.020 fair to to ladies as we possibly can we're ultra sensitive to it you could bring up title nine you

00:42:43.440 could bring up issues of domestic violence and other things and we're pointing out about the

00:42:47.320 iniquities that have transpired against women on so many levels okay and then we have that heightened

00:42:53.640 level of sensitivity and then it comes to something like this and we're not being sensitive to the fact

00:43:00.240 that you're having ladies compete against individuals who biologically were men and obviously

00:43:09.080 uh had a gender transformation and so you know a lot of times it's difficult to speak on that because

00:43:15.000 then doctors and scientists and others get involved and in the world we're living in you and megan you

00:43:19.560 know this better than me probably i can't tell you how many times i would i would have a position and

00:43:24.440 somebody will call up and say hey you don't understand and then they're giving me a whole

00:43:29.600 bunch of explanations as to why it is the case and what have you and i'm like okay you know listen live

00:43:36.620 and let live i get that but when you're talking about a sport like boxing where somebody's going to be

00:43:42.880 getting beaten up by somebody that they're in the ring with that was you know born uh of an opposite

00:43:51.440 sex and then now they're in the ring and against one another what do we say about that how do you how

00:43:57.900 do you how do you speak on that i don't know the answer to that question i just know everything about

00:44:02.440 it everything about that feels wrong and i can't deny that but that's the world that we're living in

00:44:07.540 and it goes back and forth back and forth now years ago you couldn't even say that couldn't even say

00:44:11.960 that but now it's got to a point where people are more open-minded about the debate uh that it entails

00:44:19.100 and so what i do is i try to lean towards okay what do the experts say what do they tell us but

00:44:25.180 then i'm a parent too and so i know that i wouldn't want you have to be careful because they're so

00:44:30.660 rabid the trans activists are just rabid on well it's not just that discussion it's not just that

00:44:37.400 it's that some of the experts ain't really experts you know what i'm saying i mean they got partisan

00:44:41.480 you know they've got partisan agendas and so you find that out as well you know we we're not just

00:44:46.780 trusting their expertise we're trusting their neutrality we're trusting that you're giving us

00:44:52.020 just the bare bones what's the truth and then you find out there are agendas attached to it which is

00:44:58.540 why it it becomes so difficult which is why people like yourself and so many people both the right and

00:45:03.500 the left anybody that's bringing the heat and bringing attention to what the truth really is

00:45:08.840 is something that i embrace because it edifies all of us because the reality is a lot of times

00:45:13.800 we just don't know a lot of us just don't know you can do your homework you and in this day and age

00:45:19.720 that we're living in you can have the facts and two sides have two different versions of the same facts

00:45:26.960 and it drives folks crazy because you're like what what are you talking about you gotta find who you

00:45:32.280 think is broker and listen that's right um that's okay i want to ask you one other thing so trump it

00:45:37.600 was just announced today is going to be attending the national association of black journalists

00:45:42.720 annual convention and career fair this week and um they there's going to be a q a and so on in any

00:45:50.060 event this has led to some sort of a firestorm on x where nicole hannah jones of the new york times

00:45:56.460 is against it saying uh this is not about reporting the news it's about making the news let's be real

00:46:04.360 about this this invitation jamelle hill formerly vspn she said she's okay with it and then these

00:46:11.320 two kind of got into it and nicole hannah jones said normalization is part of the process and we've

00:46:17.260 seen how trump has moved around black journalists we've seen how he's insulted and degraded them and

00:46:21.600 so on and jamelle hill i think standing her ground saying no he should go and be put to the you know

00:46:26.640 to tough questions do you have a problem with quote normalizing trump by inviting him to this event

00:46:34.660 i don't want to hear that i side completely with jamelle hill on this um he's the gop nominee

00:46:42.280 i mean we just got to grow up he's the gop nominee whether you like it or not one or two people are

00:46:49.040 going to be president of the united states come january of 2025 it's going to be donald trump

00:46:53.160 or it's going to be kamala harris period so if you're the national association of black journalists

00:46:58.900 um i'll be there this week by the way in chicago i won't be there wednesday when he's there

00:47:04.620 um listen the same platform that you would give to a kamala harris the same platform that you would

00:47:11.240 give to a senator or a congressional figure you should certainly accord to the gop nominee for the

00:47:18.120 presidency of the united states and if trump is willing to come more power to him now personally

00:47:22.600 speaking i think he's being slick as hell and i'm gonna tell you why megan because he's coming

00:47:26.800 from my understanding he's coming on wednesday at 12 noon let me tell you something about the

00:47:32.840 national association of black journalists most people ain't getting there before wednesday night

00:47:36.780 i can assure you that most people not getting there before wednesday night okay so if you really

00:47:42.620 really want to be in front of the masses and you want to be in the eye of the storm you show up on

00:47:49.840 thursday or later that's what you do to come any earlier it's almost one of those things where he's

00:47:55.780 saying see they invited me they wanted me there they support me you know and then he skips town

00:48:01.220 you know before i mean i should say harris was invited too they're they're awaiting her answer

00:48:05.880 i know that but i mean trump listen you get you got to give him credit for going at all because

00:48:10.060 this is not like black voters trump's doing well he's doing well with black voters for a republican

00:48:14.560 black journalists he's not doing well with virtually any journalists that's the truth

00:48:18.800 i'm not i'm not knocking him for showing up at all when i say he's slick it ain't an insult

00:48:23.900 i think it's a good move on his part because the later he comes the more intense the scrutiny will be

00:48:30.380 if you should show up in the week she you should go and you should show up at noon and give him the

00:48:35.000 hard questions i well first of all they didn't invite me to give him a question i'd love to sit down and

00:48:39.820 interrogate donald trump personally i i don't know how good of a job i would do but i would love

00:48:45.400 to do it and by the way i can't wait to interview you one day but i gotta tell you i'm i'm looking

00:48:50.520 forward to him coming i think that he should come and i think that on too many occasions it's about

00:48:56.000 what we like it's about what we prefer and all this other we gotta stop that we really really gotta

00:49:01.280 stop that he is the gop nominee he's the former president of the united states of america i don't care

00:49:08.960 what you say about him he belongs showing up at a journalism conference there is no excuse for

00:49:16.360 anybody to oppose that if he's willing to show i think it's we should want him i think it's great

00:49:21.840 they invited him and i think it's great he's going i mean the guy's got he's got guts i have to say he's

00:49:26.340 going back to butler pennsylvania for another rally too which is just like oh my god steven a smith

00:49:31.660 what a pleasure i will come on anytime thank you for being that's right i'm thank you for having me and

00:49:36.600 i'm definitely going to invite you on my podcast absolutely awesome it's a date we'll see you soon

00:49:41.440 all right all right take care all right when we come back victor davis hansen is back so many times

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00:51:09.900 kamala harris to entirely change her core political beliefs without sitting for an interview

00:51:16.800 and being asked a single challenging question no problem it's fine she didn't do any of that stuff

00:51:22.980 it's just a donald trump accusation joining me now victor davis hansen victor is a senior fellow at

00:51:28.160 the hoover institution and he's also the author of the case for trump the book is now being re-released

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00:51:40.400 again the case for trump vdh welcome back thank god you're back we've really been missing you

00:51:48.320 can i just before we get into the news of the day let's get your overall take on what the hell's

00:51:54.540 happening in the country over the past month well i think it goes back to february uh march april of

00:52:02.800 2020 when you remember after joe biden lost the first three caucuses and elections and then

00:52:09.940 sanders surge and elizabeth warren was being considered pete but there was a lot of radical

00:52:14.980 people in the democratic the people you've talked about before the donor class the grandees the city

00:52:20.960 bosses party bosses they came in and say old joe biden from scranton is a moderate veneer and then

00:52:27.280 everybody dropped out they were promised various things but a jig with got a cabinet post and there

00:52:32.920 was a faustian bargain and it was a ceremonial role we knew that for joe biden he was the moderate from

00:52:38.800 scranton and then we had the hard left agenda probably the most radical since the fdr administration

00:52:44.440 that was kind of a coup in itself and then we knew almost immediately that he was non-composmenta so

00:52:51.860 then for three years there was kind of another subterfuge and that was that he was fine that

00:52:57.520 there was a cheap fake and then suddenly i think the donor class megan came in and said this is not

00:53:04.040 this is no longer covert it's over and we've got to do something because he's going to lose the house

00:53:10.560 and the senate and the white house so they said to joe you have to have a stress test and we're going to

00:53:15.260 have a historic debate before either convention meets or before either party nominates and if you do well

00:53:20.880 maybe you can survive if you don't we're going to have time to adjust before the names have to be

00:53:26.320 institutionalized on the ballot he didn't do well he thought that he could fight through it with

00:53:31.220 subsequent appearances they attack people like yourself or me anybody who questioned his cognitive

00:53:37.240 facilities and then they they flipped in an orwellian fashion and they said you know everybody was right

00:53:43.300 he's not able to do it but he is able to continue his presidency and that's what they told him if you

00:53:48.360 you get to have your presidency we want 25th dominion but you're gone and then on suddenly

00:53:53.460 they had said you can't get rid of joe biden his supporters said because of the problematic kamala

00:53:59.720 harris and then that same orwellian narrative kicked in she's fine she's cicero she's wonderful

00:54:06.800 she's articulate she's ebullient and so they nullified the wishes of 14 plus million primary voters and by

00:54:17.320 coronation before any discussion she is now the nominee and it's the same problem though with joe biden

00:54:23.980 and that is they think that because she gave one or two successful performances she's free now she's going

00:54:30.740 to be wonderful but she's innately unable to do extemporary speeches or to do interviews with

00:54:38.520 disinterested journalists so she's she has a parallel problem with biden and so just to finish i think they

00:54:45.560 think they have the formula from 2020 that tripart formula keep joe in the basement under the guise of

00:54:52.040 covid so he doesn't have to campaign outsource it to the media and the party's surrogates two

00:54:57.660 in addition to that uh he has to be a moderate so it'll we're going to resurrect old joe biden as a

00:55:07.100 moderate for the veneer and three they changed in most of the swing states the balloting laws so that

00:55:13.360 70 percent did not show up in election day they they mail in ballot and they were overwhelmingly

00:55:18.360 uh had an advantage on the democratic side for mail in so i think they're going to repeat that

00:55:23.640 she's not going to be out as a normal candidate she's going they have those institutionalized

00:55:29.920 voting changes and they think they can still master early and mail in balloting to their advantage

00:55:34.580 and they're going to try to uh reinvent her as a moderate and that's going to be harder because

00:55:40.520 she's a san francisco lifelong california politician that said some pretty wacky things and she doesn't

00:55:47.360 have the ability to be camouflaged the way that joe biden did in the 80s and 90s when he was sort of a

00:55:53.380 interest that's where we are politically i think what's amazing is they her stances are there for

00:56:00.500 the taking they're on camera that she ran for president a lot of this was said in town halls

00:56:05.840 at presidential debates in one-on-one interviews with cnn anchors there's no wiggling out of these

00:56:11.620 prior positions we we can see and hear them for ourselves but now you're getting the whitewashing

00:56:17.760 like by politico it's a trump accusation that she opposed fracking a trump accusation just for the

00:56:25.900 record here she is in 2019 sot 21 there's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking i have

00:56:32.100 a history of working on this issue we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact of fracking is

00:56:37.460 enormous in terms of the impact on the health and safety of communities i'm committed to passing a green

00:56:41.900 new deal creating clean jobs and finally putting an end to fracking once and for all

00:56:47.720 okay she opposed fracking now it's just a trump accusation that she did that because suddenly

00:56:55.140 she's realized she needs to win pennsylvania where fracking is very important and popular and creates

00:57:00.120 a lot of jobs so now she doesn't she doesn't oppose fracking anymore so they tell us and you get

00:57:05.660 articles like the one in politico and this one in the new york times where they the headline is why

00:57:10.820 the kamala harris of four years ago could haunt her in 2024 basically kamala harris opposes kamala harris

00:57:18.380 um that the subhead is republicans are now digging up her old stances and weaponizing them they're

00:57:28.040 weaponizing the positions victor literally they've appeared in i think one ad that just plays what she

00:57:36.360 said on fracking i'm getting rid of private health insurance and making us all go on medicare

00:57:41.220 on the border which now she says should be funded but before she said shouldn't and on a mandatory

00:57:47.300 buyback program for assault weapons meaning any semi-automatic pistol that she wants the government

00:57:52.940 to seize from people yeah i i think it goes back to that point you see joe could get away with it

00:57:59.640 because he's he was he was in the senate for over 30 years and he had to horse trade back and forth and

00:58:06.100 he was from not really a completely liberal state delaware he used to brag remember in kind of bizarre

00:58:12.320 fashion that it had been a slave state i thought i didn't know what he meant but he i think he was

00:58:16.200 trying to say i had to be pragmatic to be elected seven or eight times in the senate but she's never had

00:58:22.440 that problem she's always been a state either a san francisco city attorney or county attorney

00:58:28.140 in the most left-wing area of the united states our statewide office for attorney general which

00:58:33.280 by the way megan she almost lost she only won it by about a fraction of one percent people were so

00:58:39.220 disgusted with her and then they kind of coronated her as a senate and then when she ran she never got a

00:58:44.980 single uh delegate and she pulled out before the primary but my point is that every environment in

00:58:50.480 which she's worked within has been hard left and she's adjusted that to that or maybe she was innately

00:58:56.100 that way but she's never had to articulate a position where there would be somebody who disagrees

00:59:01.940 with her and that's going to haunt her because in every one of those scripts um she every one of

00:59:08.440 those episodes she doesn't just say she's for fracking or their new green deal or amnesties or

00:59:14.340 things like that she she doubles down she re-emphasizes it she's unambiguous she's strident

00:59:20.300 and that's going to really uh um i think they're going to do to her what they did to michael dukakis

00:59:26.140 in 1988 he came out of that democratic uh convention he said i'm not ideological this is

00:59:32.220 not about politics it's about competency i had the massachusetts miracle i balanced a budget that

00:59:38.560 wasn't quite true and he and george hw bush was kind of hapless and then they got a guy named as

00:59:44.940 you remember megan lee atwater and he ran the tank ad and willie horton ad and the boston harbor

00:59:51.460 pollution ad and they hounded him and pounded dukakis and when they got through with him uh he lost by

00:59:57.480 seven or eight points in the popular vote and that's the last time by the way the republicans have

01:00:01.640 ever won 51 percent of the popular vote because after that they all turned on lee atwater and they said

01:00:07.960 read that not in my name how dare you do that to poor mike dukakis we're better than that we play

01:00:13.060 by the marcus of queensberry rules he died of a brain tumor he apologized to michael dukakis but

01:00:18.620 that's how they won that election and they've lost seven out of the last eight popular votes in the

01:00:24.040 presidential election and part of the reason is romneyism and mccain and the bushes they just

01:00:29.120 didn't want to do what the democrats do and trump is not he's he has no inhibition so i think he's

01:00:35.020 going to do what lee atwater did to i hope he does and redefine yeah i do too he's going to redefine

01:00:41.480 who she really is just who the caucus is and i think that league that kind of artificial

01:00:48.200 bump she got in the polls is going to dissipate very quickly as people find out what she said and

01:00:55.220 they run clips of her and her own voice it's the same dishonest messaging as we saw with barack

01:01:03.200 obama who ran on hope and change but meanwhile as i pointed out at the top of the first hour

01:01:08.300 was sticking the knife in john mccain suggesting he was a racist this guy who adopted a girl from

01:01:14.800 bangladesh uh he's a racist okay sure he's mit romney's a sexist okay this is for all barack

01:01:22.100 obama hope and change now we get to kamala harris who's running on freedom freedom and her boss on

01:01:28.080 unity unity let me show you the latest messaging out of team democrat this isn't from kamala harris

01:01:35.160 herself this is from a pack supporting her called the won't pack down it's absolutely disgusting for

01:01:42.900 the listening audience you need to know what we're going to play and you should go to our youtube.com

01:01:47.900 slash megan kelly page for this one you're about to see a bunch of obese men with actual sweat

01:01:54.120 stains in their pits and around the collar like sweat all over them they look disgusting

01:02:00.260 and like overly geeky weird nerd guys delivering the following messages watch we want the government

01:02:09.800 involved in all aspects of your sex life way more involved way more involved when you have sexual

01:02:16.460 intercourse it should be illegal to use contraception no pills no condoms your genitals are reserved for

01:02:22.320 procreation if you freeze 12 eggs you should be required to have 12 babies or else you're a serial

01:02:28.240 killer and i'm definitely not a serial killer are you i'm voting in november i'm voting in november we're

01:02:34.240 all voting in november are you because what happens in your bedroom is up to me is up to me and my son

01:02:40.580 also mouth stuff is a sin

01:02:43.400 that is unbelievable victor that is the most disgusting ad i've seen yet and that is what

01:02:53.300 the democrats think of republican voters

01:02:55.720 yeah it's kind of the visual counterpart of barack obama whining that he lost the pennsylvania

01:03:03.320 primary uh that was to a private group of donors when he said they were clingers and then what hillary

01:03:08.480 blew up her campaign when she said they were irredeemable and deplorable and then of course

01:03:14.940 she said she was going to put the coal miners out of business so that doesn't work because this this

01:03:20.640 election unlike 2020 is going to be decided in pennsylvania wisconsin and michigan and that

01:03:29.140 the degree to which the republicans can get out the base and get an extra four there were about four

01:03:34.920 500 000 conservative blue collar white male voters that did not vote in 2020 in those three states if

01:03:42.520 they can get them out they're going to win because this time i think they've got a very good chance of

01:03:46.640 winning nevada arizona and georgia so those are going that's going to be where it's going to be

01:03:51.280 decided and that type of commercial is going to hurt them it's so offensive but it's right in line

01:03:57.900 with the messaging we've seen from kamala harris from her supporters there is a disgusting governor

01:04:06.140 of illinois jb pritzker who's part of a disgusting family that's been funding the trans agenda being

01:04:12.140 shoved down our throats and that of our children in school and this guy is auditioning to be her

01:04:19.480 choice for vp reportedly on the short list though not one of the top top choices and he is out there

01:04:26.540 peddling this smear disgusting smear against jd vance that forgive me because i hate to even

01:04:33.100 repeat it that he masturbated into a couch that's basically it and this gained such traction amongst

01:04:41.020 these leftist loons that the ap decided to take this far left claim totally unsupported because they

01:04:48.880 said it was in his book another lie and to fact check the claim oh we fact checked it it's not in

01:04:57.300 his book which is really just a backdoor way of perpetuating and spreading this smear but to hear

01:05:04.780 it from illinois governor jb pritzker is another thing listen to sot 26 i mean on the other side

01:05:13.480 they're just weird his running mate as you probably have heard is uh you know getting known for his

01:05:19.280 obsession with couches that's deeply immoral supported by messengers like chelsea handler

01:05:29.140 another absolutely gross commentator always out there swinging for the democratic ticket listen

01:05:36.160 listen up you wingnut elegy this country is still controlled by men in systems that were set up by

01:05:42.920 men that are carefully crafted to continue to benefit men you sad diet mountain dew drinking

01:05:48.580 couch humping dolphin porn aficionado and before you tell me he didn't really fuck a couch spare me i

01:05:54.440 grew up in new jersey in the 80s where everyone had a couch in their basement and i know a couch fucker

01:05:58.380 when i see one i don't even know what to say about the the level of depravity that is now

01:06:06.100 making its way into the democratic messaging yeah i i think again there's two things they're not going

01:06:12.560 to talk about they're not going to talk about the harris biden record compared to the prior trump

01:06:18.300 record and what trump's agenda will be in 2024 they're not going to do that and they're not going

01:06:24.180 to talk uh about kamala harris and how she's had a wonderful record as a politician or a vice president

01:06:32.180 or as a senator and what her view her vision of america is because all of the issues whether it's

01:06:37.760 a border or crime or inflation or foreign policy or the military whatever it is are women and men and

01:06:45.340 women's sports they don't pull 50 percent except for abortion we're not going to in january 6 it's not

01:06:51.500 going to be this campaign is going to be on stuff like that january 6 and abortion and uh we'll see if

01:06:58.740 the democrats if the republicans can understand that and then the other side of the coin is they're

01:07:03.280 going to have to master early and mail-in balloting because remember megan in those key states after

01:07:10.460 they changed the voting laws and most of them in march and april of 2020 we went from election day

01:07:17.160 70 percent of participation to 30 percent and when we looked at those mail-in ballots we discovered two

01:07:24.140 things post facto one they were overwhelmingly democratic and two the traditional rejection rate

01:07:30.940 for improper names or faulty addresses are not matching the registrar's name or filed after the

01:07:38.420 deadline it went from a traditional three to four percent and then double the number of ballots and it

01:07:44.720 went down to point three or point four remember mark zuckerberg injected 419 million dollars for drop

01:07:50.860 boxes and for extra partisan workers to aid government registrar employees so that's what this

01:07:57.440 that's what they're going to do in this this campaign they're not going to talk about the issues they do not

01:08:02.520 want to put her out and i think they're they're they're making a big mistake though because they feel

01:08:07.980 that because she's young and she's apparently compost mentes they think that she won't have the problems

01:08:14.240 of biden but in a weird way she has the same problems of biden only it's not innately physical or mental

01:08:19.980 it's just who she is she's not able to speak she's not able to talk to people extemporaneously

01:08:25.140 and her whole life especially as a young attractive woman in california and somebody that she felt and

01:08:33.300 claimed that she was a minority she felt that her charm or her gestures or whatever that was would in lieu of

01:08:41.040 actually making a coherent rational argument would suffice and it did suffice but not now and she's going to

01:08:49.080 have to come out and i think they're going to really i think you're going to see something like

01:08:53.200 the dukakis campaign that we're all going to be caught up in this hysteria that she went from

01:08:58.480 incompetent in the democrats own words to you know majestic and and we'll see but i think in the next

01:09:05.580 two or three weeks if the democrats did what if the republicans did what they did in 1988

01:09:10.360 it's going to be um it's not going to work for them and honestly like they they shouldn't hold

01:09:17.900 back that as we just demonstrated the democrats are not holding back in the complete character

01:09:23.680 assassination of trump and jd vance in particular but before i get to that i have more on that

01:09:30.060 you mentioned her record and her ties to biden it's a tick tock now to see how long it's going to

01:09:38.280 take her to disavow what joe biden did on afghanistan they're already now harris biden trying

01:09:46.440 to blame it all on trump all we did was implement trump's plan that's it but there is no way she's

01:09:51.720 going to wiggle out of being fully on board with the way joe biden handled that we have that too

01:09:58.280 on tape uh here we go this is back to april 2021 listen president biden always said that he wants

01:10:08.840 you to be the last person in the room particularly for big decisions just as he was for president

01:10:13.740 obama he just made a really big decision afghanistan yes were you the last person in the room yes

01:10:19.580 and you feel comfortable i do and she went on to elaborate and she felt totally comfortable on it

01:10:26.440 so afghanistan victor speak to that because we talked i mean obviously the the border she was the

01:10:30.680 border czar whatever i don't care what the label was she was in charge of it and she didn't do

01:10:34.280 anything the economy there's absolutely no evidence she knows what to do on the economy and now the you

01:10:41.480 know when it comes to foreign policy and being commander-in-chief she was fully on board with his

01:10:45.240 afghanistan plan yeah i think if you talk to military officers and i've talked to a lot of them

01:10:51.720 they all admit the same thing and that is donald trump had a plan and mike pompeo for about 3 500

01:10:59.860 troops to occupy hold possess bagram air force base they spent about 300 million dollars to retrofit it

01:11:08.620 it was the largest base in central asia with access to russia china iran and they wanted

01:11:15.120 to hold that they had we had a billion dollar embassy and they had about 50 billion dollars

01:11:19.740 worth of munitions and trump likes to in a bragyadash's fashion he likes to tell people and

01:11:25.320 it's public knowledge that he told the hierarchy of the taliban if they he wouldn't interfere in their

01:11:32.520 government because they had taken over the country basically and they had done that for a long time but

01:11:38.020 he was going to hold this base and if they tried to kill americans he was going to go after their

01:11:42.520 hierarchy so you could criticize or that particular policy but that was unambiguously the policy to

01:11:50.340 hold this huge base and not to do what biden did and he and he said people around him said that he

01:11:57.020 wanted a 20th anniversary of our supposed misadventure in getting into afghanistan close to 9 11's 20th

01:12:03.980 anniversary so he could say in a big parade or some type of celebratory fashion i was the one only me

01:12:10.800 after 20 years i got us out and i don't think they had any idea of the mayhem and and disaster

01:12:19.320 and humiliation that it entailed but it was very important megan because that was not the end of it

01:12:23.660 that presage the chinese balloon embarrassment that presage putin going into ukraine that presage

01:12:31.700 the idea that hamas and hezbollah thought there was going to be a lot of light between us and israel

01:12:37.720 they were correct in that and that really destroyed deterrence that he had inherited from trump and

01:12:42.480 it kind of explains why the world is in chaos right now that was the turning point that august

01:12:47.760 humiliation of 2021 already you've got uh former obama spokesman tommy beater tweeting out oh it's

01:12:56.360 very helpful this clip of it's john bolton who obviously had a big falling out with trump uh a couple

01:13:01.500 years ago saying um this was trump's deal the afghanistan withdrawal that was trump's deal

01:13:06.080 very helpful clip from john bolton for rebutting attacks on harris and biden over the withdrawal

01:13:10.680 from afghanistan this is foreign policy magazine says that the afghanistan disastrous withdrawal

01:13:16.220 is an opportunity for harris first they say it remains to be seen how much she's weighed down

01:13:23.660 during the campaign by this problem by one of biden's lowest foreign policy moments as president

01:13:28.340 then they cite lisa curtis a former white house uh cia and state department official it was fairly

01:13:34.640 clear that it was biden's personal decision to fully withdraw in the way that he did it was it was all on

01:13:40.780 biden you see and then miss harris thinks this is a wonderful opportunity for kamala harris uh because

01:13:48.080 she says miss curtis thinks this because she says as a woman hopefully we can expect kamala harris if

01:13:53.880 elected to focus more on supporting afghan women as somebody who's fighting for women's rights in

01:14:00.140 the united states it would be hard for her to ignore it and on from there so see it wasn't on her it was

01:14:05.800 entirely him and now this is actually a plus because she's a woman who cares about women so she's going to

01:14:11.040 go in there and help all the women she ignored over the previous four years yeah but i think the clip

01:14:17.480 that you just played is going to be well known to the american people that she was the last person in the

01:14:22.680 room when that decision was made and i think it's there's kind of a narrative now about that

01:14:27.980 humiliation it's just not that we abandon all those weapons that turned in turned up in the

01:14:33.180 international terrorist markets and it wasn't just that we destroyed our own deterrence and it wasn't

01:14:38.480 just we gave up all of stuff this valuable base and embassy but it was also this eric cultural

01:14:45.860 arrogance that why we were weak and being humiliated and fleeing we had the intellectual cultural

01:14:51.620 arrogance to have the pride flag flying from the embassy to brag that we'd spent 80 million dollars

01:14:57.520 on a gender studies program at the university of kabul that we had george floyd murals on some of the

01:15:03.160 main boulevards in other words we were cultural imperialists but unlike the british of the 19th century

01:15:08.820 we were completely impotent and uh that that story is sort of connected that we were trying to impose

01:15:17.720 this left-wing progressive uh agenda on a traditional islamic society at the same time

01:15:24.760 that we were pulling troops out and showing them that we were both arrogant and weak culturally arrogant

01:15:30.780 but militarily weak and that's i think most people see that's the narrative of the biden administration

01:15:36.060 we put we always lecture people all abroad about how superior the progressive vision was on issues of gender

01:15:42.580 and equity and di and all of that stuff and then they they got insulted whether it was saudi arabia

01:15:49.880 or some of our nato allies they got they they got the message that they always talk about what we

01:15:58.240 should be doing and how uh morally superior they are to us and how progressive but then when it comes

01:16:04.240 to standing up for us they don't do anything and that's the message they they were in other words

01:16:09.340 they talk loudly and carried a twig right so team trump is starting to get its advertising going

01:16:18.020 they have spent money on advertising and i don't live in a swing state so i don't see much of it

01:16:22.180 but they've just dropped an ad addressing not afghanistan i'm sure that will come eventually

01:16:26.740 but a bit about the border it's a 30 second ad here's here it is sat 24

01:16:31.040 i'm donald j trump and i approve this message this is america's border czar and she's failed us

01:16:39.080 under harris over 10 million illegally here a quarter of a million americans dead from fentanyl

01:16:46.000 brutal migrant crimes and isis now here do you have any plans to visit the border you haven't been

01:16:54.180 and i haven't been to europe i don't understand the point that you're making kamala harris failed

01:17:00.220 weak dangerously liberal i think it's very effective right it does unlike the other side

01:17:07.160 it didn't get personal just talked about her her policies yeah that was in the tradition megan of

01:17:13.580 lee outwater that was that was like the tank ad or the willie horton ad it was actually factual it

01:17:18.680 was tough and there's no it's that was a brilliant ad and they're going to show that everywhere and again

01:17:25.240 uh i think this hysterical bounce that they have got i'd just like to add one other thing

01:17:32.780 the relief that joe biden everybody felt on the left that joe biden was no longer an albatross around

01:17:40.100 their neck that they were not going to automatically lose the election that they could rehabilitate

01:17:45.920 kamala harris from kind of a liability to an asset all of that gave them and the media especially that

01:17:53.120 the glee in the media gave them that three or four point bounce so that in some polls are equal some

01:17:59.220 one or two behind trump but they also i think on the conservative side people said well it's because of

01:18:05.900 joe jd vance i don't think the appointment of jd vance had much to do with it and you can argue

01:18:12.320 whether it was wise or not but the idea that suddenly trump lost uh this huge lead he had in

01:18:17.800 some states or maybe nationally by five or six points because of vice president selection i don't

01:18:23.840 think that was the reason at all and i think the polls will yeah the polls will show that either

01:18:28.920 he's more popular than kamala harris i think a wall street journal poll today said that that he was

01:18:33.820 more popular than uh kamala harris herself and the asset that he has again it's not a traditional

01:18:41.540 selection to balance uh ethnic or regional considerations you know that would be a marco

01:18:47.020 rubio or tin scott it's to concentrate on three states where the election is going to be decided

01:18:52.180 and more importantly to get somebody who can go on television and explicate the maga agenda the trump

01:18:58.560 vision better than trump can and people don't quite i i've known him a a bit and uh many of he was

01:19:07.680 very young when he got all of this attention and everybody said well he's just flipped he's an

01:19:12.680 opportunist what had happened to him from when the period i have talked to him was i think that he had

01:19:19.020 no idea that this book would be a bestseller he had no idea the film he came out of nowhere he was

01:19:24.980 just saturated with attention money and it was mostly from the liberal side and i think he got caught up a

01:19:31.360 little bit and they had interpreted this kind of honest dissection or autopsy of appalachia as well

01:19:38.600 he's saying that white poor white people are pathological if you read the book he didn't quite

01:19:43.240 say that he was honest about their strengths such a misrepresentation he he was honest in the book

01:19:48.580 because you heard bashir say he says our people are lazy exactly yeah he was from this group of people

01:19:54.220 yes kentucky but his book is really about his upbringing in middletown ohio and he's saying

01:19:58.900 you can dump all the money you want on these communities and just say oh they need to be

01:20:03.420 helped financially but i'm telling you with some there is an attitude of apathy and he walks you

01:20:09.420 through some people he knew who didn't show up to work on time would he and his buddy would watch a

01:20:15.360 third guy go on 40 lunch breaks or smoke breaks or snack breaks or bathroom breaks and each one was

01:20:21.860 getting longer than the previous one and he was trying to get at there it's more than just a thing that

01:20:27.340 the government can throw money at there's there is an attitude amongst some who are raised in these

01:20:32.420 areas characterized by blight that we have to be honest about and of course that gets used against

01:20:37.760 him by governor bashir like he hates us okay just stop yeah yeah but i and i think that's exactly right

01:20:45.440 and so that when he was put in that world that media hollywood left-wing media world and he and they he

01:20:55.860 then he you know opposed trump but the problem he had was as he started to digest what people were

01:21:04.840 reviewing his book and what they were saying about him he started to realize that they were deliberately

01:21:10.200 trying to misinterpret his message and that actually culturally historically traditionally he had far more

01:21:16.980 in common with the people he was trying to constructively criticize than these newfound opportunistic

01:21:22.780 wealthy bi-coastal elites and he soured on them because he never really i mean he'd he'd experienced

01:21:28.820 them before uh in school and in his businesses but now he was he they were saying you're one of us and

01:21:35.100 he was trying to say no i'm not and i think that he went through that transformation i could relate to

01:21:41.040 it i grew up in a very poor community i'm speaking that from that now it's 90 mexican-american and

01:21:46.440 to the degree that it's white most people are from the oklahoma diaspora i married a wonderful woman

01:21:52.220 who never went to college and it was nobody in her family had ever gone to college and i went to

01:22:00.240 stanford and i thought wow this is so good to get out of the san joaquin valley and i get off the farm

01:22:05.820 i don't have to get up and do all this tractor work and then i started to experience that entitled

01:22:11.140 credentialed smug left-wing media university academic in my case the coastal elite from san

01:22:20.620 diego to berkeley and i just saw i i started to see in my 20s that there were values that i grew up

01:22:26.620 with that i thought maybe were restricted but as you started mature you say if it's a choice between

01:22:31.620 middle america and those people then you'll take middle america's common sense and pragmatism and

01:22:37.420 decency every day i think that was similar to what he he he saw in his 30s so i don't think he

01:22:44.300 was opportunistic at all it just it was just a maturity and and comparing his newfound friends

01:22:50.820 with the people he grew up with seeing trump govern it changed a lot of us on trump you know you got

01:22:56.640 over very quickly mean tweets when you saw the policies that were being pushed out of his

01:23:00.940 administration versus the ones that had come down over the previous eight years i just feel like i am a

01:23:05.980 great example of this trump didn't spend a year going after jd vance and attacking him over and

01:23:11.920 over and over with hundreds of nasty tweets but i did and if i can see trump in a new light and

01:23:18.860 actually openly say i'm gonna vote for the guy and i support his policy then why can't jd vance why is

01:23:23.860 it just automatically oh some money grab by jd vance he wanted power he went no there are some of us who

01:23:29.980 legitimately didn't really love trump originally had a lot of questions about his temperament and

01:23:36.280 the way he might govern and then saw him do it and said you know what i feel differently i just it and

01:23:42.020 they know that they know that's possible they just are determined to smear jd to character assassin

01:23:48.460 assassinate the man that brings me to some of what i said in the first hour which is you weren't here but

01:23:54.920 it was about how they're just attacking him as everything i mean misogynist in particular but of course

01:23:59.400 we'll get to the racism that's what they're that's going to be another attack and molly john fast a

01:24:04.160 left-wing commentator is picking up on these comments about childless american leaders childless

01:24:10.900 leaders is really what he was limiting it to listen to what she said victor i saw 25 well so what's

01:24:17.500 interesting is this is this natalism that comes from an authoritarian playbook right that there there

01:24:22.700 need to be more white children right that's the idea that there's you know this is about great

01:24:27.700 replacement theory racism right this is what this is so don't misunderstand it for him wanting more

01:24:33.780 children he wants a certain kind of you know racist thing she's actually saying he wants more

01:24:42.140 white children we'll just put out on the board a picture of jd vance his wife there and their three

01:24:46.760 children here is jd vance with his non-white family if he what he really wants is more white children

01:24:54.580 in the world he's doing a very crappy job of it victor jd vance just reiterated what has been the

01:25:03.420 republican mainstream position that people who have exorbitant costs to raise children need a tax break

01:25:10.920 and that is to encourage fertility and they and they felt that way not without any racial considerations

01:25:17.620 because as as late megan as 1990s we had a 2.1 fertility rate it's down to 1.6 we're down into

01:25:26.220 germany italy greece spain territory and historically a society that does not have 2.0 is less dynamic

01:25:35.800 it's an aging population it accrues enormous overhead for health care and it's always it's always beneficial

01:25:43.640 to have a replacement fertility rate and that doesn't apply just to white people if you look at

01:25:48.880 second and third generation hispanics african americans and asians are even lower than whites

01:25:54.200 so when jd vance says we need to encourage child raising he's talking about to defer these enormous

01:26:01.160 costs to allow people of all backgrounds to have a traditional family and to keep a healthy

01:26:09.660 i dare i say young and robust population and we're looking at china where if you look at where

01:26:16.480 china and countries in italy are uh places in italy or germany they're in deep trouble

01:26:22.380 because they're not going to have a sufficient labor force they're going to have enormous health

01:26:28.000 care costs and there's something about a society that is that gets older and older and older it's less

01:26:34.060 dynamic it's less risk-taking and that's just historical it happened in rome and happened uh

01:26:39.380 in the byzantine empire and any historian worth his salt when you look at a society in crisis the first

01:26:45.300 thing you look at is it's monetary policy it's inflation policy its borders and especially its rate of

01:26:51.580 fertility it's it's amazing because there was no pushback by that anchor on msnbc of political jonathan

01:26:58.800 lamir no hey maybe you're being a little too hard on him he did marry a non-white person and has three

01:27:05.560 non-white children no that was not relevant but i want to take a break but before we get to that i do

01:27:11.560 want to say so now every day we're getting another drip drip drip of jd vance clips and he's been

01:27:16.860 making this comment about the birth rate and about how we need more children and also to be fair

01:27:22.460 shots against childless politicians for a while including back in 2020 this clip that came out

01:27:30.560 today as far as we can tell is from november 2020 he was on the chris buskirk show who has 115

01:27:38.580 followers on rumble 115 and this is the clip making the rounds today of jd

01:27:46.020 right there's just these basic cadences of life that i think are really powerful and really really

01:27:53.040 valuable when you have kids in your life and the fact that so many people especially in america's

01:27:59.100 leadership class just don't have that in their lives you know i worry that it makes people more

01:28:04.260 sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less uh less mentally stable and of course

01:28:10.340 you talk about going on twitter final point i'll make is you go on twitter and almost always

01:28:15.960 the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids at home

01:28:20.300 so what do you make of a victor because the left uses this all these clips to say he hates well you

01:28:27.260 and i know who made a different life choice than he did yeah i think he didn't put it the way he had

01:28:32.400 intended but you and i know people that don't have children that are wonderful people and they're

01:28:37.880 engaged but i think what he was trying to say that and you know as a parent and i know as a parent

01:28:45.100 i had three children that when you can't you don't have the resources to do what you want because

01:28:52.140 you're you're going to invest which today economists tell us about a quarter a million to a half million

01:28:57.840 dollars per child then it changes your your outlook that you have to sacrifice for someone else and it's

01:29:05.820 not me talking the wall street journal i think you saw that essay about 10 days ago where they talked to

01:29:11.700 people who didn't have children and they were worried or they were curious about why so many

01:29:16.720 people are choosing married couples we're not talking about gays or transgender people but married

01:29:22.220 couples who deliberately did not want to have children and the answers were that they inhibit your

01:29:29.720 opportunity you there and they had anecdotes i can't go out to eat like i could we can't go to

01:29:34.800 florence we can't do all the things that this new world has entitled us to as upwardly mobile

01:29:40.520 highly paid urban professionals so i think that's what he was trying to say i don't think he needed to

01:29:46.580 you know the psychopath all that stuff but that's that i don't think that's that controversial and i'm

01:29:52.740 speaking to somebody who has siblings that both have children and don't have children and it does seem

01:29:59.280 that if you don't believe what he said megan and then you would say there's no difference between

01:30:04.620 people who don't have children and people who do and we should all not then it doesn't matter we should

01:30:11.160 all not have children we would cease to exist so there has to be some positive argument for fertility or you

01:30:17.100 won't have a society it'll crumble and that means if it's not going to crumble and people are going to have

01:30:23.080 children they're going to have to make sacrifices they're not going to have the wherewithal the

01:30:27.400 disposable income as other people and that's what he was trying to articulate and the republican party

01:30:32.620 has said that that it's too expensive in today's world with two income for people to raise children and that

01:30:39.880 shouldn't be so and we need to have policies that reward people who wish if they want to have children

01:30:46.080 and that that's all he was trying to say and he got caught up i know both the p yeah yeah go ahead

01:30:51.820 i'm sorry it's the same thing it's the same thing as when someone says you really need to go outside and

01:30:56.580 touch grass go outside and touch grass see nature it's he's saying the same thing that his most ardent

01:31:03.320 critics online are these leftist politicians and who who don't have children like an aoc who make it a

01:31:11.640 point who want who wear it as a badge of honor these are not people who just say you know i just don't

01:31:15.820 think i'm the mother and type or i tried for kids and it didn't work out for me and i'm sad or just

01:31:20.500 people who said like i don't want them because whatever it didn't work for my lifestyle he's

01:31:24.620 talking about bitter angry leftists who are so rabid in their policies and their beliefs often around

01:31:34.220 this issue they think you're a bad person if you have them because you're ruining the environment and

01:31:38.820 you're bringing them into a world in which the world is going to end in 10 or 15 years and it's

01:31:42.900 irresponsible this is all over this is not a one-off there are many people who believe this

01:31:47.680 on the left that those people are nuts and that they shouldn't be our leaders that is very clear

01:31:52.960 he went on tucker a bunch of times i know tucker's views on this issue that tucker would never and nor

01:31:59.060 would jd ever see a person who just chose not to have kids because it just you know whatever people

01:32:03.340 said not everybody wants them or who tried and couldn't have them and say you're a sociopath it's

01:32:09.400 these loons who are all over the internet who excoriate conservatives as like these paternalistic

01:32:15.560 like the people who put together that ad i ran of like the fat guys with the sweated pits like i'm

01:32:20.580 coming for your family they see all republicans like that because they haven't made the life choices

01:32:25.860 that these leftist politicians like aoc have made and to me it's jd fighting back against those jerks

01:32:32.440 trying to diminish them a bit by saying you know what touch grass have a kid spend some time worrying

01:32:38.560 about someone other than yourself and then tell me how to run the country yeah and then you have

01:32:45.020 to ask what is that commercial and what are all of those uh social postings intended to influence

01:32:51.080 are they intended to influence somebody in i don't know hillsdale michigan or rural wisconsin that

01:32:58.840 there's a family two two members of the family had three kids one chose not to is the one that chose

01:33:04.780 not to is going to get very angry all of a sudden and vote against jd vance i don't think so that that

01:33:10.700 whole trope is intended for people who already are going to be solid harris support i don't see that

01:33:18.000 it's got much traction all of these things to go back and they they're basically saying we're going

01:33:24.420 to try to show you that jd vance favors a uh family that would that has children a family that works

01:33:32.720 hard a family that stays together and i don't i don't see how that's going to be a drawback especially

01:33:39.620 in the states in which the election is going to be decided because it doesn't do any good to get a

01:33:45.300 bunch of smelly people supposedly and overweight and character them and ridicule them when that

01:33:51.460 demographic is going to to decide the election they think it's going to make people in where i

01:33:58.260 work at stanford or silicon valley happy it will but they're going to be irrelevant in this it's going

01:34:03.400 to offend people who really matter in this election and i don't think that i don't think anybody's ever

01:34:09.020 won a presidential election by spending the entire time attacking the vp on the opposite no

01:34:15.980 trump is the one running for president trump that didn't work with protection a little bit because

01:34:23.440 the assassination attempt and so they're wary of looking like assholes right now and going after

01:34:29.620 him full bore i do believe this is why one of the reasons jd is front and center but soon they will go

01:34:35.600 back to their favorite target and we'll resume all the old fights that we've been having over him

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01:35:41.500 kamala harris clearly is capable and is probably and is the most qualified individual to run for

01:35:51.760 president in fact more um qualified than the last four presidents my office sued donald trump over

01:35:57.540 100 times we were the firewall and it is my singular focus to have her elected as president of these

01:36:05.020 united states organizing mobilizing and educating individuals about all that donald trump did to

01:36:11.100 this country to divide us based on artificial constructs such as race and class and gender

01:36:16.900 whatever happened to actually fighting crime as the attorney general of new york that was letitia

01:36:22.960 james victor davis hansen's with me the author of the case for trump and she's been a she's a leading

01:36:29.400 player in the case to get trump and now is apparently abandoning law enforcement in new york to do one

01:36:34.660 thing get kamala harris elected she's the poster person for racial divisiveness and she ran on a campaign

01:36:40.360 almost as a bill of attainder to go back and target donald trump in the same way that fanny

01:36:46.700 willis did and alvin bragg and and i think history is going to show that that didn't work

01:36:51.020 and but more importantly if that was true what she said why would donald trump uh be on a trajectory to

01:36:58.960 get more black voters or more latino voters than either george bush or john mccain or maybe even george

01:37:05.740 w bush and so they don't ever answer that or ronald reagan so they keep saying that he's racially

01:37:11.860 divisive and at the same time he's appealing to minorities in a way that a republican really hasn't

01:37:17.240 we know the answer is because she mentioned class but what he what he did was he's trying to substitute

01:37:23.220 substitute class for race he's trying to say to the indian american truck driver the the black

01:37:30.200 electrician the hispanic contractor the the lower middle class white plumber you all have things in

01:37:37.060 common with each other that you do not have in common with the wealthy white bicoastal elite with

01:37:43.520 the professional dei czar class and we're going to unite you in a nationalist movement and that's why

01:37:50.200 they're so scared because if he's able to pull that off and suggest to the black lower middle classes and

01:37:56.860 latino classes and white lower middle classes that they all have been shorted by this bicoastal elite

01:38:03.160 of every ethnic and racial background that's a revolutionary thing to do it really is

01:38:08.480 that's why they're scared that's why we have to make it about jd vance allegedly hating childless

01:38:15.660 people and whatever else they're going to resurrect against trump as soon as they feel an appropriate

01:38:20.660 amount of time has got past since they tried to kill him in front of our very eyes victor great to see

01:38:26.220 you thanks for being here so glad you're back and we thank you for back tomorrow yes all the best we're

01:38:32.140 going to have dr drew on and also batia angersargan she's taking a deep dive into the jd vance uh

01:38:37.940 situation and we'll have her thoughts for you love to hear your thoughts on all of this email me megan

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The Megyn Kelly Show - July 30, 2024

Character Assassination Attempt on Vance, and Offensive Olympics Opening Ceremony, with Stephen A. Smith and Victor Davis Hanson ｜ Ep. 851

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