The Megyn Kelly Show - Colbert's PAINFUL Goodbye, Lemon's Whining About White Men, and Trump's Hilarious Rant, with Stu Burguiere ｜ Ep. 1322

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00:01:00.760 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.460 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.400 Happy Thursday and happy last day of The Late Show, forever.

00:01:20.260 Stephen Colbert is hosting the final episode of The Late Night Show.

00:01:23.600 I mean, finally, tonight on CBS and the left is reacting with existential dread. 0.98

00:01:30.100 blaming the cancellation on the evil and fascist Trump 0.65

00:01:33.340 and ignoring the fact that the show hasn't been funny in a decade

00:01:36.080 and is losing a reportedly astronomical sum of $40 million a year, a year.

00:01:45.500 You don't need an MBA from Harvard Business School

00:01:48.600 to know that CBS cannot keep paying Colbert a reported $15 to $20 million a year

00:01:55.200 to lose even more.

00:01:57.920 What are we doing?

00:01:59.420 His weak competitor, Jimmy Kimmel, apparently thinks Colbert deserves to be paid millions

00:02:05.660 in perpetuity.

00:02:07.100 And because he's not getting that wish, he is now urging viewers to watch Colbert tonight

00:02:13.520 and then never, ever turn the dial to CBS again.

00:02:19.620 Oh, gee, who would that help?

00:02:21.860 Watch.

00:02:22.920 We will be off tomorrow night out of respect for our colleague and friend Stephen Colbert

00:02:27.520 and the writers, producers. I hope the people who did the pushing feel ashamed of themselves

00:02:34.700 tonight, although I know they probably won't. I will be watching tomorrow night.

00:02:38.760 I hope that those of you who watched our show will also tune in to CBS for the last time.

00:02:45.040 Don't ever watch it again, but watch tomorrow night to wish Stephen and our friends at the

00:02:50.260 Latro off on farewell. Not too clever. Then there's good old Bruce Springsteen,

00:02:57.220 who's clearly become a woman, who thinks Colbert is being taken off the air because President Trump

00:03:02.400 and the owners of Paramount are just too sensitive.

00:03:07.900 Stephen, I'm here in support tonight for Stephen because you're the first guy in America who's

00:03:15.320 lost his show because we got a president who can't take a joke. 1.00

00:03:20.260 and uh and because uh because larry and david ellison feel they need to kiss his ass to get 0.99

00:03:28.680 what they want so these are anyway steven these are small-minded people they got no idea what 0.98

00:03:37.320 the freedoms of this beautiful country are supposed to be about this is for you

00:03:42.440 But we have a few groups to explain them to us.

00:03:48.180 He should ride that guitar right off into the sunset and be quiet.

00:03:51.320 Just be quiet. 1.00

00:03:52.340 No one gives a shit what you're saying. 1.00

00:03:53.880 Your weird little songs that you've parodied up to make fun of Trump. 0.99

00:03:57.920 Like during his performance, it was truly like something out of a leftist presentation in high school.

00:04:03.480 They had slogans projected on the backdrop onto like an American flag that was up there.

00:04:09.460 Resistance.

00:04:10.480 Honestly, this happened.

00:04:11.440 peace, truth, hope, unity. Okay. So inspirational. People have their marching orders. Hope,

00:04:21.720 unity. That is such a typical leftist move. They don't want unity. Those are lies. They absolutely

00:04:28.980 don't want unity. They want dominance. These are the same people who are pretending to shoot

00:04:33.460 themselves in the neck to this day in the wake of Charlie's murder. They think that the people

00:04:39.500 who are praising Luigi Mangione

00:04:41.540 have started an interesting conversation.

00:04:44.140 There'll be no unity.

00:04:45.180 It's a no.

00:04:46.760 And let's check in with Robert De Niro,

00:04:48.520 who's even crazier than Springsteen. 0.85

00:04:50.460 He's crazier than Rosie O'Donnell. 0.92

00:04:52.900 He truly, I think, 0.98

00:04:53.980 has the worst case of TDS

00:04:56.280 we've ever seen,

00:04:58.080 ever known to man.

00:05:00.160 I mean, that's saying something.

00:05:01.780 Who got Colbert?

00:05:03.020 This is, oh my God, 0.99

00:05:03.980 this is actually the most ridiculous thing. 0.97

00:05:06.520 None of us watches Colbert, obviously. 0.88

00:05:08.860 So we didn't know about this tricky little thing he does,

00:05:12.280 this fun little trick he's been doing on his show for years.

00:05:15.600 This clever little cat and mouse game he plays with his guests.

00:05:20.060 What does he do?

00:05:20.840 It's an ongoing saga.

00:05:22.480 Apparently it's been going on for years.

00:05:24.420 It's a little Q&A where he asks them a mystery question

00:05:30.060 that he wants them to guess the answer to.

00:05:32.940 What is it?

00:05:33.580 Is it like, you know, number of gumballs in a jar?

00:05:36.660 No, it's just, what number am I thinking of?

00:05:41.420 Okay, that's his game.

00:05:44.280 What number am I thinking of?

00:05:46.480 And this passes for like $15 million a year entertainment.

00:05:53.820 This being his last week,

00:05:56.480 he and Robert De Niro chose last night

00:05:58.440 to reveal the big answer.

00:06:02.520 We're finally gonna get to hear the number.

00:06:04.140 And apparently it's been one number.

00:06:06.200 It's not even like a clever thing where night after night, just to see if people on his 0.96

00:06:08.820 wavelength, he's, he changes his number and they, that would be dumb and boring enough. 0.63

00:06:13.200 I guess he's had the same number and has had all these years.

00:06:15.920 And if you get it, he doesn't tell you.

00:06:17.720 And if you don't get it, I don't know what he says. 1.00

00:06:19.520 Who gives a shit? 1.00

00:06:20.260 This is the most boring fucking bit we've ever discussed. 1.00

00:06:22.860 How did this pass for entertainment? 0.99

00:06:26.560 So he brings on De Niro to do, to do the big reveal of the number, my friends, my God.

00:06:35.480 and de niro couldn't even spit out the number the whole bit was awkward watch what number were

00:06:44.960 you thinking of uh there's a hint as to what the answer is ethan hawk immediately goes i know what

00:06:51.440 it is it's three that's the number that that's the number i was thinking of yeah yeah okay yeah

00:06:59.140 Because I thought it would would have been two million point five or two and a half million.

00:07:08.940 That's the number of Epstein files Trump still hasn't released.

00:07:16.440 Is it over? Is it over? Actually, it is over. Thank God. Tonight after tonight, it's over and we don't have to talk about him anymore.

00:07:24.280 Thank God. Like, I'm sure he's going to, you know, launch a podcast or do something in the independent lane.

00:07:29.380 It'll probably do quite well because he has some following there, not enough to justify paying him 15 million dollars a year on air at CBS.

00:07:36.500 But he's the one who's chosen to treat it like a funeral.

00:07:41.020 That's that's Stephen Colbert's choice.

00:07:43.800 I mean, the months of tributes have been a little much.

00:07:50.040 And wait until you hear what Don Lemon is writing about this cancellation.

00:07:55.980 And I guess he's got a substack now.

00:07:58.220 You'll be shocked to learn he makes it all about himself, all about himself and his arrest

00:08:04.300 for allegedly violating the FACE Act when he stormed a church in St. Paul, Minnesota

00:08:09.940 with anti-Ice protesters back in January.

00:08:12.780 There are dozens of other examples we've got to get to, but first, before we do, we want to bring in our friend, Stu Bergeer, who's host of Predictable with Stu.

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00:09:28.140 Stu, what a great day to have you. Welcome back.

00:09:30.820 Thank you, Megan. Great to be here.

00:09:32.720 Okay, so they are all very, very, very upset that Stephen Colbert is going away.

00:09:40.560 And we have to pretend like this is some sort of unprecedented free speech violation by a network colluding with a president and not the result of a network losing $40 million a year. 0.95

00:09:55.620 Can you believe how pathetic and lame the sendoffs have been? 0.93

00:09:59.880 It's incredible, especially from someone that has just not really made an impact, right? 0.96

00:10:05.080 I mean, he went over there and he started, there's this big piece of the New York Times, just, you know, again, another obituary for the show today, where they talk about how he started over at, you know, with the show.

00:10:16.760 And he tried to do a show that would entertain people like every other late night host was doing for many, many years.

00:10:24.740 The formula that appealed to a mass audience, make some jokes, the show's not super expensive to produce, you make a bunch of money, everybody's happy.

00:10:32.740 He tried to do that, and it was failing. It was failing miserably. So Donald Trump comes down the escalator. Colbert decides he's going to switch his shtick. I mean, he'd always been obviously critical of conservatives, but he was trying to do something else, I guess, at the beginning.

00:10:48.940 and the way the times uh phrases it is uh you know he became successful in a period where it

00:10:54.420 was still possible for a show to be successful with a point of view uh which is i thought i'm

00:11:01.620 an amazing way to put it i missed the era where all these networks were allowing conservative

00:11:07.500 points of view to be the lead parts of their late night shows and hardcore conservatives being

00:11:13.420 critical i don't remember you know rush limbaugh having uh the late night show he did have a

00:11:18.860 syndicated show at one point that was successful but that's not the way that they allowed this

00:11:23.320 stuff to work even with successful people uh like rush uh it's a it's it's a joke he has not been

00:11:29.460 successful he's he's you know just shedding money like crazy and he's i think if i'll give him any

00:11:37.000 credit on anything he was smart to lean into this sort of victim uh situation where he is now the

00:11:44.520 victim of the president he can be seen as the the the white knight fighting for everything that's

00:11:50.420 good it's such a lie but it's much better than focusing on the fact that you're losing 40 million 1.00

00:11:55.100 dollars a year oh my god yes you're a loser that's the truth honestly that is you're a loser and you 1.00

00:12:02.920 got canceled because you you've been a loser for a long time to quote the president about rosie 1.00

00:12:07.500 o'donnell that's my one of my favorite quotes by him rosie's a loser she's been a loser for a long 0.99

00:12:12.500 time as if it's like quantifiable like identifiable the date she became the loser forward scientific 0.78

00:12:19.880 consensus uh it's same same for stephen colbert so let me give you a taste for what's happening

00:12:27.180 Of course, Jon Stewart is also devastated at this. And he, you know, as part of the parade of honors for Colbert on his way out, he's not dying. He's just getting his show canceled. Jon Stewart goes on and says the following. Watch South 4.

00:12:43.940 And let me say this, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, not just for this show, but for the country. The day, the day, oh people, close your eyes and dream. The day that the electorate in this great nation we call home repudiates this putrid administration, the day that that happens.

00:13:05.620 my brother my brother uh-huh there will be and i mean this the day that that happens there will

00:13:17.180 be a joyful noise from the bowels of this great country that will make hungary's repudiation of

00:13:24.560 orban look like an amish sabbath

00:13:27.500 okay i mean that's what they're celebrating right like don't you worry you know it's all

00:13:38.780 trump's fault and trump will get his what the nation will repudiate him this has nothing to

00:13:44.800 do with trump other than stephen colbert caught a very bad case of tds turned his show entirely

00:13:52.980 political based on his obsession with Trump. Ratings cratered. And as a business matter,

00:13:59.860 he was no longer viable and his show went down. That's not Trump's fault. That's his fault for

00:14:06.400 making a bad calculation about what people wanted in the so-called comedy slot on nighttime TV.

00:14:13.600 Yeah, because I'm sure that audience is very well versed in the policy profile of Victor Orban.

00:14:20.740 I'm sure they just cheered so loud for that because they understood the reference completely.

00:14:26.600 Sure.

00:14:26.880 Yeah, he's trying to make him.

00:14:28.220 He's always trying to show you how smart he is, which is a tell, of course, that he doesn't feel smart at all.

00:14:33.020 Right, exactly.

00:14:34.260 You know, it's funny because, honestly, without Donald Trump, to be clear, you could say, okay, well, he's, you know, Trump has been critical of Colbert.

00:14:41.460 And that's obviously true.

00:14:42.500 They've warred in the media.

00:14:44.140 But without Donald Trump's presence, Stephen Colbert's canceled in, like, 2018. 0.75

00:14:48.560 I mean, his entire show, the only thing he ever says on the show is an echo of what Jon Stewart just said in, you know, just filling in the controversy of the day into his crappy jokes.

00:15:01.060 This is his entire career. At this point, he owes to Donald Trump, at least on this show. The fact that it lasted that long is only because he went in there and he did connect with a portion of the country, a very, you know, left wing, hardcore portion of the country. 0.58

00:15:19.780 And that gave him enough of a bump, just like MSNBC and CNN did in that period.

00:15:24.960 They went on hardcore against Donald Trump, did basically TDS network, and were able to pump up their ratings at a time when there was a lot of passion and everyone was screaming about this new guy who was in here and pissing everybody off.

00:15:40.400 That got old.

00:15:42.000 And once you took half of the audience and immediately tossed them aside and tried to continually hit the same audience with the same jokes and the same monologues and the same guests over and over and over and over again, eventually they just got bored of it.

00:15:57.900 And when you got to the point where they, I guess, got what they want and they got a Joe Biden presidency and that went so poorly, a good chunk of the audience that was with them before left.

00:16:09.100 And now you have basically nobody outside of Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel watching.

00:16:14.760 And that's why the show's off the air.

00:16:16.040 It's got nothing to do with Donald Trump yelling at Stephen Colbert.

00:16:20.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.780 Well, there's another Don who thinks he has something to do with it.

00:16:23.840 And that's Don Lemon.

00:16:24.840 I like I can't believe what I'm about to read to you.

00:16:27.000 Of course, we don't keep tabs on what Don Lemon is doing.

00:16:29.160 No one cares.

00:16:30.340 But he's apparently doing a sub stack.

00:16:34.080 And his sub stack reads as follows.

00:16:37.180 OK, I'm going to give you some of that lowlight Stuber gear.

00:16:40.860 He says, Colbert was the canary in the coal mine.

00:16:45.400 I know something about that.

00:16:47.280 He writes back back to me.

00:16:49.020 I gave one line to someone else back to me.

00:16:51.820 On January 18th of this year, I was in St. Paul, Minnesota, covering an anti-Ace protest at a city's church.

00:16:56.840 And as an independent journalist, I live streamed it.

00:16:59.760 I interviewed protesters.

00:17:00.940 I did my job.

00:17:02.080 Eleven days later, at approximately midnight on January 29th, the FBI and Homeland Security investigators arrested me in Beverly Hills, where I was there covering the Grammy Awards.

00:17:12.740 He goes on.

00:17:14.620 Shortly after I appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live, Jimmy gave me a platform when a lot of people were watching to see who would.

00:17:22.220 Sure, the nation was on pins and needles seeing who would platform Don Lemon, public enemy number one.

00:17:30.000 I told him I was doing okay. I told him I wasn't going to let them steal my joy. And I meant it.

00:17:37.620 But I also said, this is very serious because it is. And I said something else that night

00:17:43.280 that I keep coming back to. I was full of profundities that I just can't get over.

00:17:51.260 I was the canary in the coal mine, not just for what happened to me personally,

00:17:55.760 but for what was coming for all of us.

00:17:59.440 Here we go.

00:18:00.400 Buckle up, Stu.

00:18:01.460 Stand by.

00:18:03.260 The networks didn't like me asking conservatives hard questions.

00:18:10.820 Okay.

00:18:11.560 CNN didn't like the mirror I was holding up every night.

00:18:17.660 So they pushed me out.

00:18:19.820 This is the most literally unbelievable revisionist history ever.

00:18:25.760 And I thought, if it happened to me, it will happen to others.

00:18:30.800 It will trickle down or up, depending on how you look at it.

00:18:36.160 Now it has trickled all the way to late night television.

00:18:41.140 So his own firing, which was as a result of his terrible ratings, zero talent, misogynistic

00:18:51.700 comments and the outing of some very dark incidents in his past at cnn all that's that's

00:18:59.040 why he got fired that is not to blame don lemon wants you to know it's because they didn't like

00:19:05.920 me asking conservatives hard questions on cnn and didn't like the mirror i was holding up every night 0.96

00:19:16.140 so they pushed me out this it's just utter bullshit it's amazing is there any are people 0.97

00:19:25.420 reading the substack like yeah right on don what do you make of it stew well there's ever been a 0.99

00:19:32.400 person in history who loves staring into a mirror it is don lemon uh the guy absolutely loves himself

00:19:38.900 nobody loves don lemon more than don lemon uh he should know when writing a substack we have

00:19:43.680 Substack, as you mentioned, at PredictableShow.com.

00:19:46.220 If you are writing a Substack, you should know on your keyboard, I is not the only letter

00:19:50.980 you're allowed to use.

00:19:52.560 How many times did he use the phrase?

00:19:56.180 There's also M and E.

00:19:58.580 Just mix it up a little bit.

00:20:00.560 Just a wild retelling of history here.

00:20:03.280 Again, these are the people we're supposed to trust to tell us the news of the day.

00:20:06.920 How many years did they throw Don Lemon on TV and act like he was a reliable source

00:20:13.600 that was supposed to explain the world to us.

00:20:16.560 You see who this guy is in real life.

00:20:19.600 He's obviously massively egotistic.

00:20:22.660 And that's, you know, I guess he's not alone in that

00:20:25.260 when it comes to television, I suppose.

00:20:27.180 But he unsupported hubris.

00:20:29.560 Like Trump is a narcissist, but he's a billionaire

00:20:32.180 and a successful businessman and won the presidency twice.

00:20:36.240 So he's got a few things to back up his narcissism.

00:20:39.020 Don Lemon is an empty vessel

00:20:41.480 and is just as, if not more, in love with the sound of his own voice and face than Trump is.

00:20:47.620 Yeah, certainly.

00:20:49.160 And of course, again, the only reason that Don Lennon stuck around long enough as he did

00:20:55.320 was because he was sitting here being constantly critical of Donald Trump on CNN,

00:21:00.800 which they were encouraging, which everyone who's ever watched CNN

00:21:03.640 understands this is the stuff that they're encouraging.

00:21:06.620 There are two other reasons.

00:21:07.880 There are two other reasons, Stu.

00:21:09.320 I'll let you try to guess what they are.

00:21:10.740 Here's a hint. Don Lemon reminded us of them when his neck was on the chopping block at CNN every other night.

00:21:16.840 Yeah, they were. Yes, that's true. I mean, because you can find people to criticize Donald Trump that are better at it than Don Lemon was.

00:21:25.460 So there were other reasons for sure. Lots of lots of intersectional reasons why Don Lemon remained there for as long.

00:21:31.500 I'm black and I'm gay. He literally came out and said it like he explicitly referenced those two identities in an effort to save his job.

00:21:39.020 I mean, it was just, it was so patent.

00:21:41.720 So now, okay, so now listen to this.

00:21:45.360 He tries to make it, so the guy who fired Don Lemon from CNN was named Chris Licht.

00:21:50.380 And Chris Licht came over to CNN from CBS Late Night, from Stephen Colbert's show, where

00:21:55.960 he had been brought on in, I think, 2006.

00:21:59.860 Colbert's been on the air for 11 years, so I don't know, or 16.

00:22:03.640 So you can do the math on how long that was.

00:22:05.780 But he came over, let's say, halfway through Colbert's tenure on the air, or not quite.

00:22:11.380 And then he left Colbert to go run CNN when Jeff Zucker went down.

00:22:18.060 And he ultimately fired Don Lemon.

00:22:20.880 And so Don Lemon has it in for this guy.

00:22:23.260 He thinks it's like his demise was a Chris Licht problem, which it wasn't.

00:22:28.740 It was not a Chris Licht problem.

00:22:30.580 And he writes the following.

00:22:32.240 He's got to tie it all together, you see.

00:22:33.580 the world that produced the late show and he means chris licked because he was the executive

00:22:39.840 producer of that show for a time the world of legacy media cable news and network television

00:22:44.760 has long had a problem nobody wanted to name out loud it is a world that has been extraordinarily

00:22:50.680 good to a very specific kind of person can you guess who those kinds of people are stew

00:22:57.180 uh don lemon's mind the ones who succeed white people probably knowing don white straight people

00:23:03.180 more specific i don't know who who is it white men white men white men you my friend you are 0.98

00:23:11.340 the problem here as usual white men who fail spectacularly and are promoted for it the nerve 0.98

00:23:19.040 of don lemon of all people to be leveling that charge white men who make catastrophic decisions 0.85

00:23:26.000 and are handed bigger offices for it. 0.90

00:23:28.880 White men who are visibly, demonstrably unqualified. 1.00

00:23:33.840 Stand by. 1.00

00:23:37.260 And are given more power anyway.

00:23:41.040 I have watched it for 30 years.

00:23:43.300 I have been managed by it.

00:23:45.020 I have been undone by it.

00:23:49.580 He says, he writes,

00:23:50.960 the executive producer who ran the late show for years, eventually left and somehow landed in my

00:23:58.720 world. That same person from that same TV orbit eventually became my boss at CNN and fired me.

00:24:07.500 I won't name him. I don't need to. But I will say this. It was one of the most spectacular examples

00:24:14.340 of a white man failing up that I have witnessed in this industry, profoundly unqualified,

00:24:23.040 visibly incompetent, elevated anyway. Now, talking like about failing upward,

00:24:31.300 how did Don Lemon ever get a show in the prime time of Fox News? The answer is,

00:24:37.080 I refer you for you back to his identity politics. We it later came out that he much younger in his career, allegedly, when he was co-anchoring with Kira Phillips, was so jealous of Kira Phillips that he sent her threatening notes and she knew that they were coming from him.

00:25:01.680 but he wasn't identifying himself as the one behind them. And it turned out, allegedly,

00:25:08.420 he had been doing it from a burner phone so that he wouldn't be identified to his co-host

00:25:15.060 about the nasty, somewhat ominous messages she was getting. There was reportedly a whole human

00:25:23.220 resources investigation into him as a result of this. And he was not exonerated. And yet,

00:25:31.280 they kept promoting him up the line, Stu. I'm sure that would have happened to a white man too.

00:25:37.740 Oh, sure. Sure. This was just one of many problems there. Woman after woman came out

00:25:44.580 and gave an interview to the press after his Nikki Haley comment about women are only in 0.55

00:25:49.040 their primes in their twenties, thirties, and forties. Like you could never have a woman in

00:25:53.800 her prime who isn't actively having babies. I mean, not for nothing, tell it to Ketanji Brown

00:25:59.060 Jackson, because she got appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court at age 54. I'm thinking she's

00:26:03.120 fucking prime. That's fucking prime time for any lawyer or judge on earth. Don, can you see it? 1.00

00:26:10.440 Can you see it? Since it's a black woman and not a white man or a white woman, can you see it?

00:26:16.900 Okay, anyway, so this is his newfound explanation for why he went down. It was the white man,

00:26:24.340 Chris Licht. And then he goes on to suggest that somehow Chris Licht may have been bringing down

00:26:31.420 the Colbert show too. I don't even understand how he says, um, I, okay, I don't blame Stephen

00:26:41.160 Colbert, uh, for any of this stuff I'm talking about, but Colbert's brilliant. He operated with

00:26:47.540 integrity, but I do wonder the, whether the man I just described, the one who failed up from that

00:26:51.780 world and into my professional life and eventually fired me, had more to do with the end of the

00:26:57.480 Colbert show, he says that show, than anyone wants to say out loud. Maybe losing tens of

00:27:03.220 millions of dollars a year wasn't just about the economics of late night. Maybe it was about who

00:27:08.660 was running the building. This is so weird. I mean, Chris Licht was no longer at CBS. He'd gone

00:27:15.060 to CNN and then gotten the boot. But I think what he means is white man. White man made these

00:27:20.240 decisions white man is running the world white man has fired what is Stephen Colbert again

00:27:27.020 checks notes another white man and this is to say nothing of the numbers the ratings of Don

00:27:36.560 Lemon's programs right before he got fired which I will talk about as well in two seconds but your

00:27:41.280 reaction to this insane narrative quite catty uh there from Don Lemon you could tell this is just

00:27:47.160 you know he's very very angry about losing his gig but i don't even understand you kind of hit

00:27:51.500 on this i don't understand what the storyline is for these people if you look at the time where

00:27:57.240 colbert was i guess moderately successful again nothing compared to the late night show hosts of

00:28:03.460 the past but if you look at the high points of the colbert show it's when chris licked was running it

00:28:09.340 that's when it was actually at its high point again incredibly critical of donald trump that

00:28:15.620 entire time but if you had if there was a peak to this very tiny mountain it was when chris lich

00:28:22.040 was there i would also argue i don't know that it's failing up to go from cbs late night to cnn

00:28:30.240 yeah like it seems because i remember at the time there was a big conversation about many of us had

00:28:35.840 a lot of questions about that move that like why is chris lich doing that exactly it seems like a

00:28:40.140 demotion right it seems like why would you want to go to cnn where there's like 12 people watching

00:28:44.560 when you have a network, you have this big show, you know, you're constantly in the positive

00:28:49.480 spotlight. Why would you want to leave? And at the time, if I remember, Licht was trying to make

00:28:55.120 an argument that he thought it was important. Like, it wasn't like, hey, this is a much better

00:28:58.200 gig. He's like, he thought it would be important to try to save this network. Again, that didn't

00:29:03.640 happen. I think some of the choices he made while there were actually pretty good. I think there

00:29:07.800 was some improvement of CNN while he was there, which of course is the reason he was no longer

00:29:12.120 there it gets you get tossed out the door yeah uh you know every once in a while cnn would recognize

00:29:16.960 that half the country uh doesn't agree with their non-stop uh crazy leftism right and every once in

00:29:23.620 a while they would say wait weren't we supposed to be the people we're not supposed to be msnbc

00:29:27.820 what if we try to at least we're supposed to be boring right not biased yeah exactly and honestly

00:29:32.980 like megan it is boring and it's terrible but there's room for me in the media uh sphere i wish

00:29:42.100 there was a place that did what we're supposed to believe a cnn does like a place that just

00:29:47.560 doesn't have the politics yeah yeah i liked the boring version yeah and and honestly i think they

00:29:52.660 always leaned left to some degree but at least i think there was a time at cnn where a good portion

00:29:58.780 of the people who worked there tried they were leftists and and democrats and stuff but they

00:30:03.760 would still attempt to do journalism a lot of that is gone uh you know there's still some good people

00:30:10.040 who work there you'd have to put on like a a serious filter when you watch them talk about

00:30:14.160 politics but anything outside of politics you you could trust cnn they actually used to be really

00:30:19.580 good for that um and even the politics were nowhere near as openly biased on cnn as they

00:30:25.800 became under jeff zucker and remain to this day so yeah i agree with you there was a time where cnn

00:30:30.740 was okay and it was it was tolerable but that changed and don lemon is one of the main people

00:30:36.540 who changed it for, you know, toward the worst. Um, he now wants you to think that it's because

00:30:42.260 he was black, I guess that he got fired by a white man. He hates white men. Okay. He's married to a 1.00

00:30:49.960 white man. So I like, I don't understand it. Are they all bad? It's just the one you married. Okay.

00:30:55.680 Is there anybody else who's okay? Like how about the white men who watch your show? Oh wait,

00:31:00.820 there are none okay never mind so anyway he goes on to talk about how you know back to himself and

00:31:09.000 how sad he is about he how he got fired um the network didn't like me asking conservatives hard

00:31:15.360 questions okay here's the truth when Don Lemon got fired his morning show remember he got booted

00:31:23.440 from the late night show because it was in in the basement when it came to ratings he was he was

00:31:28.040 getting absolutely no numbers. Um, do I have his late night numbers here? I don't know if I have

00:31:32.820 his, um, evening numbers here. Oh yeah, I do. When he got fired from the late night show or whatever

00:31:38.360 the primetime show, he was averaging 600,000 viewers in the primetime. Okay. He was averaging

00:31:45.040 150,000 in the demo just to give the audience a feel for where that is. When I left my primetime

00:31:51.280 job at Fox, which was January of 17, we were averaging about 3 million viewers a night.

00:31:57.940 Okay. He was getting 600,000 and we had between three and 600,000 in the key demo, given whatever,

00:32:05.440 any given night in the news cycle. I actually looked it up. We were averaging 500,000 when I

00:32:11.740 left. So we were averaging half a million in the demo. That was what he was getting in the overall.

00:32:15.480 That's why he got fired. That's why they booted him out of late night. He had no numbers. He

00:32:19.240 couldn't put any points on the board. It was pathetic, pathetic. I never even looked at his 1.00

00:32:22.800 numbers or anybody's numbers on CNN. They weren't relevant to me. They weren't even a competitor.

00:32:26.860 It was boring for me to even consider them. Then they moved him to the morning as his

00:32:32.320 promotion. Remember, they tried to spin it as a big promotion to go from a solo primetime position

00:32:38.460 to a three person morning show with Caitlin Collins and Poppy Harlow. And it became the

00:32:45.680 lowest rated program in a decade for CNN.

00:32:50.320 And then he made his comments about Nikki Haley.

00:32:54.520 And that show, by the way,

00:32:55.340 was averaging about 360,000 viewers in the morning.

00:32:58.180 Fox and Friends was averaging 1.2 million.

00:33:01.360 And MSNBC was averaging about a million,

00:33:03.760 just under a million.

00:33:05.620 Don Lemon, you were fired because you failed.

00:33:08.200 You failed in every role they ever gave to you.

00:33:10.060 Then you became offensive on top of it.

00:33:12.060 Failure and offensive.

00:33:13.280 That's what happened, okay?

00:33:14.760 Like, it's fine.

00:33:17.500 You found a niche.

00:33:18.920 You're making it in the independent lane in a decent way, I have to say.

00:33:22.660 So that's good.

00:33:23.460 That's good for you.

00:33:24.460 But there's no reason to rewrite history here. 0.92

00:33:27.480 Your firing had nothing to do with Whitey.

00:33:29.700 It had to do with you and a lack of talent and offensive comments that you made repeatedly 1.00

00:33:35.320 and dumb comments. 1.00

00:33:37.140 Everyone knew you were dumb, which was one of your major sins, which is not really overcomable. 1.00

00:33:41.020 So I shouldn't hold it against you. 0.99

00:33:42.620 In any event, these are the people who remain outraged about Stephen Colbert getting his proverbial head chopped off by, I guess, the white men in the C-suites, too. 0.99

00:33:55.300 Ah, those evil white men and their vendettas against other white men. 0.99

00:33:59.480 That's what happens, I suppose. 0.96

00:34:00.960 You know, the other thing you mentioned of him being moved from a show that was completely failing in primetime to the morning show, if I'm not mistaken, that was a Chris Licht move, right?

00:34:09.940 Like, he actually saved Don Lemon and put him in the morning show.

00:34:14.660 Again, he didn't make all good decisions, but that was a terrible one.

00:34:18.720 He tried not to fire him.

00:34:20.440 He tried not to fire him, which is seemingly the central focus of this entire media organization for years and years and years and years was to figure out a way to not fire Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon.

00:34:32.540 I don't know why they were so dedicated to that cause.

00:34:35.220 It didn't work out all that well.

00:34:36.600 But, you know, you talk about those numbers, you know, gosh, I remember going back when we first started in television, the first, you know, major network that I worked in, it was in the building at CNN.

00:34:48.520 We worked for CNN, and at that time, they were trying to say, hey, wait a minute, we've noticed half the country won't ever turn us on.

00:34:55.460 Maybe we should put a conservative on that little ugly stepchild network that we have, CNN Headline News.

00:35:01.620 And they put on Glenn Beck, and I was working with him at the time.

00:35:04.600 and it was amazing to to watch there where i mean they had nobody watching that network i mean nobody

00:35:10.240 was turning the thing on but our numbers when we got on there were higher than the numbers than

00:35:16.020 you're talking about with with don lemon that's embarrassing that shouldn't happen you know there's

00:35:21.060 been other developments in that time period certainly a rise of digital and other things

00:35:25.400 but you're basically at the point now where it's just sort of one of those networks it's like a

00:35:30.720 prestige play in a in a in some executives uh you know portfolio it's not it's they're not trying

00:35:37.620 to do news or get ratings or make money or anything else it's just this thing everyone

00:35:41.980 kind of remembers cnn as they had this positive view gosh remember when they how they covered the

00:35:46.800 gulf war uh hey let's let's keep make sure this is this continues to go on remember larry king

00:35:52.700 well yeah we remember larry king but that was a long time ago this thing has been dissolved and

00:35:57.740 dissolved and dissolved they've tried to remake it over and over again it's like the person who

00:36:01.900 goes in for too much plastic surgery right at some point you get to that place where this looks

00:36:06.120 nothing like the beautiful person we used to know it is this this it's just this sort of revolting

00:36:11.580 weird uncanny valley of a network and i don't think it's savable at this point it's so true

00:36:17.600 so here's what's happening over on nbc where jimmy fallon was always sort of i think it's 0.94

00:36:23.880 fair to say the least political of the late night hosts Seth Meyer is he he's the jerk I'm just 1.00

00:36:30.800 gonna say he's such a jerk he was such an asshole when I was over at NBC like I really I couldn't 1.00

00:36:36.580 stand him I put his wife on because she was pushing some initiative some charity charity and 1.00

00:36:41.020 it was a favor I was like sure okay I'll put her on and then like a couple months later he was out

00:36:45.580 there attacking me at the upfronts where you make your pitch to advertisers literally he was out

00:36:51.120 there, like making jokes about what a racist I was. Like, I'm sorry about that. You're just a

00:36:56.580 dick. Like if you do that, like what, who would do that? Like if you don't like me or you think 1.00

00:37:00.340 bad things about me, okay, no problem. We don't have to like each other. Why would you ask me to

00:37:05.180 do you a favor and to do a solid for your wife? And then I did it, which was a nice thing for me

00:37:11.160 to do. And then to attack me publicly. Like, well, you're such a douche. That's a fucking douche.

00:37:16.480 sorry for my language okay anyway um back to jimmy fallon who is far less political than 0.99

00:37:23.980 seth myers or is he look where he went um was this this is wednesday night this is last night

00:37:32.420 this is jimmy fallon who may be starting to think he can fill the shoes of stephen colbert listen

00:37:39.460 here. Trump had sued the IRS for 10 billion. What a mess. Trump controls the DOJ, told them make it

00:37:47.300 go my way. So he got immunity. No more audits. OMG. He's so happy. LOL. Popping bottles like

00:37:55.040 Kash Patel. PJT says DOJ. Is it illegal? IDK. PJT stops IRS. Is that sketchy? YES. Trump says

00:38:04.160 nbd okay if fbi is mia trump says okay brb i gotta watch the ufc i-r-s-v-d-o-j-s-m-h-i-y-k-y-k-n-g-l

00:38:15.900 it's s-u-s-t-l-d-r-w-t-f oh my god still oh my god that is sorry the worst thing i've ever seen

00:38:26.860 that should have come with a viewer warning yes yeah i'm sorry i'm sort of angry at you honestly

00:38:31.300 make it for even showing that oh god it's like i was recoiling you know it's like it kind of hit

00:38:40.600 my ocd in bad ways too i i disapprove on every level yes there's that weird feeling that you

00:38:46.220 get into there's certain episodes of the office that make you really really uncomfortable like

00:38:50.080 scott's tots that's the feeling that i had watching that as if i was being tortured uh you

00:38:56.360 know the show that's going to replace i guess uh colbert is a show called comics unleashed which

00:39:00.680 you know is from what i understand is you know gives comedians like shots that you know that

00:39:04.500 maybe people didn't know who they were i work with dave landau on my show steward dave do america

00:39:09.520 he's a comedian uh and he always treat he traces back the fall of nate uh late night and this is

00:39:17.020 something he puts a lot of thought into into the colbert vaccine song sketch uh if you remember

00:39:23.560 this one with the dancing needles with the dancing needles and it was the vaccine s-c-e-n-e and they

00:39:29.740 tried to make it into this hey this catchy thing you should take this this shot it's and it's like

00:39:35.420 it became the exact opposite of what the institution was supposed to be it was supposed

00:39:41.700 to be something that was pushing back against uh you know the the things that uh you know that you

00:39:47.480 were hearing from the government you're supposed to be this like you know this force uh you know

00:39:52.060 pushing against the tides and and making fun of everybody and instead it was like you know you

00:39:56.560 have to embrace the messaging coming from the man right it is the exact opposite and again it

00:40:02.080 doesn't matter what you feel about any of these issues honestly it was it's always it's it's good

00:40:07.040 to have voices and comedic comedic voices have always been the best at doing this who will just

00:40:12.020 just take shots at what we know what we see uh in in in washington and you know from our authority

00:40:19.500 figures and from our institutions we should look at them this is america we're supposed to look at

00:40:24.000 them uh kind of like with a side eye and and always be suspicious of what everyone's telling

00:40:29.540 us if you fold and say hey everybody line up to take this medication what you know whether you

00:40:34.100 like it or not you're just sending the signal that we've just given in and that is what they

00:40:38.820 did throughout the biden presidency they couldn't find comedy in joe freaking biden for four years

00:40:44.220 it was the funniest thing anybody ever seen if it wasn't just for our lives all collapsing

00:40:48.640 we needed the comedians then

00:40:50.940 and they abandoned their duty

00:40:52.240 no accountability

00:40:53.080 dead teenagers 1.00

00:40:56.640 from that damn vax 1.00

00:40:58.300 no accountability 1.00

00:40:59.580 nothing about the glorifying

00:41:02.520 Fauci

00:41:03.400 who's honestly I think a 0.99

00:41:05.960 criminal felon liar

00:41:08.080 nothing 1.00

00:41:09.460 no accountability whatsoever

00:41:10.960 we have the vaccine

00:41:11.900 the dancing syringes

00:41:13.740 get quote unquote

00:41:15.800 don't show another one

00:41:17.680 No.

00:41:19.200 I know.

00:41:19.840 I'm sorry.

00:41:22.700 He actually did this.

00:41:24.260 Oh, my God.

00:41:31.480 So bad.

00:41:32.400 It's so bad.

00:41:38.960 Vaccine!

00:41:44.080 Oh, my Lord.

00:41:45.580 This is embarrassing people who work at Pfizer.

00:41:52.180 And that's saying something.

00:41:53.540 Now they're in the audience.

00:41:54.660 Oh, those poor audience members had to look like they enjoyed that.

00:41:58.160 This is just cruel.

00:41:59.360 All right, that's enough.

00:42:00.500 I'm subjected to Stu to enough here.

00:42:02.860 Thank you.

00:42:04.000 So, I know.

00:42:05.820 I like you too much for this, Stu.

00:42:07.400 I'm treating you like an enemy here.

00:42:09.200 What did I do to you, Megan?

00:42:10.500 I don't understand.

00:42:12.520 I don't know. 0.59

00:42:13.140 So I guess we'll have to do this one more day because we'll see what ridiculous thing he does tonight and may or may not comment on it.

00:42:18.460 But then that's it. 0.74

00:42:19.080 Like, I'm so over him.

00:42:20.320 I don't care.

00:42:20.900 He's irrelevant.

00:42:22.100 Like, no leftist even is waking up, I think, asking themselves, what does Stephen Colbert think?

00:42:26.200 He was never that guy.

00:42:27.420 Rachel Maddow, yes, they rely on her as their queen or did when she was doing more than one hour of television a week.

00:42:33.880 But this guy was never the guy setting the agenda or like the talking points or, you know, offering new ideas or new ways of looking at leftists and leftist candidates and or even right wing candidates at all.

00:42:46.300 He wasn't. So whatever. Fair, farewell. Nothing against him personally. But this is it's too much.

00:42:52.220 He's got to get over himself. Now, I just want to steal one moment, if you don't mind.

00:42:55.680 You mentioned Glenn Beck, who I love. And Glenn, as we both know, is an enormous history buff. I mean, I don't think there's a topic he loves more than history. And he was so generous. He had on my husband, Doug Brunt, who has just published a new book called The Lost Empire of Emanuel Nobel.

00:43:17.080 And it's all about this guy named Emmanuel Nobel, who was being raised in, well, Sweden and then moved to Russia around the turn of, you know, into the 20th century alongside another kid named Joseph Stalin.

00:43:33.360 And one would become the richest oil baron in the world, and one would become someone who wanted what that first guy had.

00:43:41.700 and the book is doing really well

00:43:44.760 and I just want to tell people

00:43:46.040 because the audience,

00:43:47.280 I had it dug on two days ago.

00:43:49.880 So the book is doing very well.

00:43:51.020 Thank you to all of you

00:43:52.260 for buying The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel

00:43:54.120 but it's doing very well in the reviews too.

00:43:57.660 Here is something lovely

00:43:58.860 from our friends at Town Hall

00:44:00.640 who wrote this unsolicited.

00:44:02.180 We did not know this was coming

00:44:03.300 and a guy named Arthur Shaper.

00:44:05.500 He writes,

00:44:06.060 straightforward, simple, engaging,

00:44:08.340 informative, all-encompassing.

00:44:10.380 If you are looking for a grand story on modern Russian history, if you're interested in a crash course on the rise of Soviet communism, or if you're simply seeking a good read that connects so much into one great history epic, The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel is the book for you.

00:44:26.860 And then I'll give you one more. Apple Books has made it the book of the month. Apple's so enamored with Doug's book, it's their pick for the month. And they write, whether you are interested in the ideological clash between capitalism and communism, or you're a fan of fascinating historical deep cuts, The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel is a gripping read.

00:44:47.860 That's Apple.

00:44:48.940 So this is great.

00:44:49.700 Not every book can get a review from Town Hall and one from Apple, which are ideologically

00:44:56.700 opposed, but it's not an ideological book.

00:44:58.580 It's just a fun, interesting page turner of a story that actually will leave you knowing

00:45:05.200 a lot more about world history and about the world today.

00:45:07.560 Because it's like, as Doug was saying the other day, the more things change, the more

00:45:12.080 they remain the same.

00:45:13.420 with the oil turf wars and oil ruling the world and everyone fighting over it and governments

00:45:21.140 fighting over who's going to control it. It's like, and by the way, just such a fascinating

00:45:26.320 background on how communism came to be, which I didn't know before I read it. Okay. So point of

00:45:30.960 personal order there. I appreciate you indulging me on it. Stupor gear. Oh yeah. I mean, I can't,

00:45:35.980 first of all, I can't wait to read this book. I know it just came out, but I'm going to definitely

00:45:39.740 read it and you know it's i think like glenn's level of of uh of understanding of history and

00:45:45.700 the reason why he loves it so much and i'm sure the reason he wanted to talk to doug is because

00:45:50.560 history has that way if we just if you know we let it go and we don't pay attention to and we

00:45:56.620 don't understand those those lessons we wind up repeating it over and over and over again

00:46:00.060 and we know look there's a lot of dark roads when you're talking about joseph stalin there's a lot

00:46:04.100 of dark roads that we there's a I think an increasing percentage of people who look back

00:46:11.220 at those days I think we see we see this a lot of times even on social media you look at these

00:46:16.040 people who are protesting outside of events here in America and they start to embrace the the the

00:46:21.280 types of worldviews that that influenced Joseph Stalin to do all the terrible things that he did

00:46:26.800 so I thank God he wrote this book we need we need more people pointing back a bright light at

00:46:31.660 history so we don't wind up going down those dark roads again. Well, I'll tell you something. I would

00:46:36.660 love it if the audience would buy a copy and you can get one in time for Father's Day, which is

00:46:40.840 June 21st. If you order right now, you'll get it before they sell out because they tend to sell

00:46:45.260 out and then you have to wait. So order it now, Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel, and do it please

00:46:49.560 also because one of the main competitions in nonfiction this month is the Trump hating Andrew

00:46:55.180 Wiseman, who was at the DOJ and now is an MSNBC contributor. And we can't have that guy make the

00:47:01.880 list and not Doug, who, you know, that's just wrong, who's been a Trump fan, who, unlike his

00:47:06.960 wife, has actually been defending the Iran war. Doug and I are on different pages when it comes

00:47:12.280 to that. He's a patriot and he's been very good to Trump. So anyway, you got to support Doug Brump,

00:47:17.300 please. I appreciate it. Okay, moving on. There's so much to talk about, but I'll start with

00:47:23.720 Spencer Pratt, because it looks like now Trump may not give him an official endorsement,

00:47:29.600 which I think is probably smart, given that he's not running for, you know, mayor of Houston.

00:47:35.140 He's running for mayor of L.A. And a Trump endorsement could do more harm than good.

00:47:39.360 But Trump is telegraphing how much he likes Spencer Pratt now. And then Spencer Pratt,

00:47:45.720 I think, is leaning in a little bit more. He had to run as a partisan, like either Republican or

00:47:51.140 Democrat. So he chose Republican. But he had said early on he was an independent. And now he's

00:47:55.520 leaning a little bit more into his Republican identity, Stu, which is interesting to me,

00:47:59.800 here in SOT 20. Why are you a Republican? Well, you want to break some news here? Sure.

00:48:06.780 It's in my, you know, I've told this before. This is the only time I've ever said this. So this is

00:48:10.580 breaking news. Everyone's going to freak out. When I was a hated reality star, I got so many

00:48:17.400 death threats. I had so much security and police and what did they tell me to do? Get a gun. This

00:48:24.240 is real. I know people don't like guns, but LA was dangerous if you're hated. So I got a gun.

00:48:29.040 My wife got a gun. And then we needed CCWs. The only people that supported a CCW was the 1.00

00:48:37.420 Republican. That was what I aligned with my safety, my personal safety, my family's safety.

00:48:42.680 I know people don't like guns, but when people are threatening your life and your own security

00:48:46.280 is telling you, you need to have home protection, train to, it's not like just, I went to the,

00:48:51.720 you know, go through the proper steps. That was my, that's it.

00:48:57.780 Amen, brother. I mean, that's how it is too, right? Everybody, not everybody, but a lot of

00:49:03.260 people don't like guns until you need one. And then they're your best friend in the world. And

00:49:09.440 you're very happy that you trained with them. But if you live in the People's Republic of California

00:49:14.260 or New York, for that matter,

00:49:16.920 they do make it very difficult for you to get one

00:49:18.960 unless, and to carry,

00:49:21.320 unless you can prove that you have a specific threat,

00:49:25.340 you know, like a stalker, et cetera.

00:49:26.940 Yeah.

00:49:27.120 So your thoughts on Spencer explaining that rationale,

00:49:31.480 I mean, in front of a California audience.

00:49:33.380 It's an interesting one.

00:49:34.400 I mean, look, I think when you get to a position

00:49:36.220 where your family's life is in danger,

00:49:39.600 you know, people tend to see that second amendment

00:49:42.160 as kind of valuable.

00:49:43.200 and it is you should be able to protect your family and protect your own life from people

00:49:49.320 who are threatening it this is something that i do think that almost everybody agrees upon in

00:49:54.580 principle i mean i think that you know there's a a very i think core part of progressivism in

00:50:00.660 general which kind of pushes people to think that everybody else can't handle themselves right we

00:50:07.840 have to be able to help them um you know when it's me when it's my family at risk of course i should

00:50:14.840 have a gun we know this with people like michael bloomberg who have armed security right they can

00:50:19.380 afford it but it's not like they don't want guns around them they want to ban you uh from having a

00:50:25.080 gun because they don't trust you with your own life they're the educated ones they're the ones

00:50:30.340 that are your betters and they're gonna uh help guide you through uh this this world i think

00:50:35.520 Spencer Pratt, it's a risky territory.

00:50:37.320 I mean, the Trump endorsements in the same way, like obviously that would help him probably

00:50:42.480 raise money.

00:50:43.140 There's a bunch of things that would be beneficial from that.

00:50:45.740 But on the other side, like this is an area that Donald Trump lost 70 to 28 to Kamala

00:50:50.580 Harris, right?

00:50:51.580 So any thinking of him as a Republican is, you know, it's why he's looking around.

00:50:56.480 He looks terrified.

00:50:57.240 He's like, my people are going to get on me for this because reminding them that he's

00:51:01.180 a Republican and not just a guy just speaking common sense and saying, hey, maybe we shouldn't

00:51:04.700 let our cities burn to the ground, that's probably his direct path to victory here, if there is one.

00:51:09.740 Yeah, I think it was just honest. I think he was like, I'll tell you the real reason.

00:51:14.520 And I mean, I think a lot of us have been there where you run headfirst into the reality of

00:51:19.820 leftist policy, and it can radicalize you. Yeah, I can relate on a number of levels.

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00:52:59.240 and Dave Do America is back with me now. I forgot there was one other thing I wanted to mention in

00:53:03.760 the Don Lemon sound sub stack that I didn't get to. Here's the best part. His ending, the ending

00:53:09.980 to it. I was a warning. My arrest was a warning. Colbert's cancellation is a warning. The question

00:53:17.840 is whether anyone is paying attention to what all of these silences have in common. Don't cry

00:53:23.140 for Stephen Colbert. Cry for the First Amendment. Cry for the journalist arrested in Beverly Hills

00:53:29.500 at midnight for covering a protest at a church. Cry for me. Don't cry for him. He's going to be

00:53:36.860 fine. Cry for me. I love how he refers to him in the third, himself in the third person. The

00:53:42.300 journalist arrested in Beverly Hills at midnight for covering a protest at a church. Cry for the

00:53:47.020 comedian canceled two days after he criticized the wrong corporations deal with the wrong president

00:53:51.400 for every voice that has gone quiet while we debated whether the economics made sense and

00:53:58.080 then he goes on uh they will cancel Colbert watch what he builds next it never works out the way

00:54:03.380 they think it will and they never learn show up okay Don all right so he wants you to be crying

00:54:09.500 for him well we won't we're not and back to Spencer Pratt here is what Trump said on camera

00:54:16.260 about him that wasn't exactly an endorsement, but again, came close at 21.

00:54:20.580 I'd like to see him do well. He's a character. I don't know. I don't know him. I assume he

00:54:25.220 probably supports me. Does he support me? I think so. Yeah, I heard he does. I heard he's a big

00:54:31.260 MAGA person. He's doing well. I don't know. If you have a rigged vote out there, that's the

00:54:36.460 problem. The votes are rigged. I think he supports me. Does he support me? So that's

00:54:44.280 the president coming close to endorsing but saying nice things about him and then i've got to show

00:54:48.760 you this a great new ad about spencer pratt watch this mayor race is really heating up who you guys

00:55:01.620 voting for haven't decided same haven't really been following it same same same i'm not maga 0.96

00:55:11.180 or anything but the city's kind of gone to shit though right oh yeah jessica stepped on a needle

00:55:17.740 at the playground the other day i'm not mag or anything though i'm not mag or anything but have 0.96

00:55:22.760 you been downtown lately looks like an episode of the walking dead not that i'm mag or anything

00:55:28.820 though spencer pratt seems like he has some good ideas not that i'm mag or anything he does seem

00:55:34.640 really angry all the time though well they did burn his house down also apparently he's staying

00:55:42.220 at the bel-air hotel not the trailer on his property well yeah they burned his house down

00:55:49.020 okay we're all adults here how about on three we just say who we're voting for

00:55:53.700 one two three spencer pratt yeah spencer pratt spencer pratt

00:56:00.300 can you imagine if our wives knew

00:56:05.200 it reads you are not alone vote spencer pratt we're all voting for spencer pratt right

00:56:10.980 of course obviously i wish i could vote like yesterday so good so it was created by not

00:56:19.060 started by but created by uh damalori zanoiki who's been on this program and it's so good

00:56:24.280 that that can happen. That could happen even in L.A. where you're definitely not supposed to be

00:56:32.000 voting for Spencer Pratt. You're not to admit that you like Spencer Pratt. You certainly shouldn't be

00:56:36.200 talking about openly voting for a Republican to run the city. And yet it's in the you know,

00:56:42.540 in the way we saw before Trump's last election where there were so many crossover votes.

00:56:47.080 I'm sure you are having conversations where people are kind of nosing up to it slightly still,

00:56:51.520 you know, like Spencer Pratt is interesting or fascinating.

00:56:56.360 Well, he's fascinating. Right. And then seeing whether somebody takes the bait.

00:57:02.000 Yeah. I mean, it's really interesting. I remember those conversations, having those conversations with people in 2016 when they were like, I don't know.

00:57:09.320 I mean, I kind of like what Trump's doing. Right. Like that was a thing.

00:57:13.000 And it's the same sort of of of momentum that seems to be building for Spencer Pratt.

00:57:19.860 it's hard to know whether it's real or if it's just an online phenomenon i guess we don't know

00:57:24.680 that yet we'll know eventually but it's so central to to the the possibility of a rise of

00:57:33.900 spencer spencer pratt that you have to by default do such a terrible job uh which is what karen

00:57:41.500 bass has done this isn't something that can just happen like you know like a republican can't get

00:57:46.440 just elected because they're interesting and they run a bunch of ads right like you have to have

00:57:52.520 your city burned to the ground while you're in uh in africa right you have to watch homeless person

00:57:58.740 after homeless person yeah that really happened literally yeah city burned down yeah she wasn't

00:58:03.720 there she doesn't seem particularly sorry and they're seriously thinking about re-electing her

00:58:08.720 yeah well i mean and she's leading right now i mean we talk about prediction markets all the time

00:58:12.880 on my show. She's leading by a large

00:58:15.040 margin. Spencer Pratt's still only at about

00:58:16.820 a 25-26% chance

00:58:18.480 of winning that race, according to these markets.

00:58:21.140 And this is after, after I

00:58:22.860 watched Karen Bass, while she's

00:58:24.880 realizing this threat is out there,

00:58:27.100 to go out in front of people and

00:58:28.580 talk about how

00:58:30.200 the big problem they have is that

00:58:32.900 meth addicts don't have teeth, 1.00

00:58:34.700 and that she needs to have full 1.00

00:58:36.880 health care for everyone, 1.00

00:58:38.680 not so that we can cure

00:58:40.300 meth addiction, but so that we can get

00:58:42.700 nice new choppers on uh and everybody's uh on the mouth of meth addicts uh so i guess they can bite

00:58:49.460 you more efficiently i don't i don't know what that what i mean she's like no thanks no no thank

00:58:55.180 you i i'm okay with that and this is when she knows she's already got a legitimate um challenge

00:59:00.800 here this isn't you know in a period you know 12 years ago i mean you know when barack obama was

00:59:06.040 running people were pulling out these clips of him five six seven years before the election and

00:59:09.780 saying look all these crazy things and he believes he was smart enough to not say them during the

00:59:13.380 campaign most of the time karen bass is still out there just blathering on about this stuff

00:59:18.120 uh and you know the ads are being run some of the best ads running for spencer pratt are ads

00:59:24.540 running against spencer pratt when they say hey spencer pratt is against multiple millions of

00:59:30.620 dollars going uh to build homes for the home for the homeless or the unhoused as they called it in

00:59:36.900 the ad. There is a level. There's a certain thing that can happen in politics. It's pretty rare

00:59:42.840 where things can get so miserable. Even people who are ideologically opposed to a conservative

00:59:49.180 viewpoint can throw their hands up and say, look, we just got to have this. I mean, it happened with

00:59:52.780 Rudy Giuliani in New York years ago, and it could happen here with Spencer Pratt. It would be

00:59:58.220 unbelievable to watch that happen. Today is Thursday, the Thursday before Memorial Day

01:00:05.260 weekend. Sadly, here in the Northeast, it's going to be a complete washout. It's very sad. It's

01:00:11.200 supposed to rain all day, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Well, part of Monday. And that's going

01:00:17.360 to hamper a lot of people's weekend plans. I'm not sure if that's the reason why Donald Trump

01:00:21.480 Sr. isn't really committing to going to the wedding of his son, Donald Trump Jr., which is

01:00:27.620 this weekend. But this soundbite just hit. Look at this.

01:00:35.260 uh he'd like me to go but it's going to be just a small little private affair and

01:00:40.600 i'm going to try and make it i'm i'm in the midst i said you know this is not good timing for me

01:00:46.640 i have a thing called iran and other things uh that's one i can't win on if i do attend

01:00:53.140 i get killed if i don't attend i get killed by the fake news of course i'm talking about now

01:00:59.160 but he's uh got a very uh person who i've known for a long time and hopefully they're gonna have

01:01:06.420 a great marriage he'd like me to be there i'm so busy in his defense it's a second marriage

01:01:22.160 um and reportedly this is out there this is not um not revealing anything it's not already out

01:01:27.700 there, but reportedly it's in the Bahamas. So it's a hike. It's not like, you know, just popping over

01:01:32.260 to Mar-a-Lago or if they're in D.C., you know, to wherever in D.C. So I don't know. I'm thinking

01:01:40.140 I'd probably go. I know Trump adores his children, but what do you make of that?

01:01:43.840 I mean, look, it's very, very, very Donald Trump, that entire clip. Look, he is president of the

01:01:54.280 united states i'm sure donald trump jr would of course understand that if there was some big

01:01:59.180 breaking thing he couldn't be there uh but it's funny like i just i love how he's like yeah you

01:02:03.680 know i hope it's a good marriage you know i hope it lasts for a while like the way he thinks about

01:02:09.380 the about everything going on there's not that necessarily that that uh that classic uh fatherly

01:02:16.240 warmth that you get out of the clip but i mean you do get donald trump and again his kids have

01:02:20.760 turned out pretty well here so uh he must be doing something right the thing is trump does

01:02:26.440 love his kids and actually he's very sweet with his kids like he he always i think he only calls

01:02:31.300 don jr like honey he calls all of his kids honey or i think it's honey um and it's he's love he's

01:02:37.480 very loving toward them some of the behind the scenes footage of him with his children is actually

01:02:41.700 quite heartwarming so he definitely loves this child i guess he's just busy i guess when you're

01:02:46.080 president is different. Like, I can't imagine missing my child's wedding first or second, but

01:02:51.760 he is busy. There is another funny Trump clip that I have got to show you. So Trump, it is not a

01:02:59.120 mystery to anybody, is obsessed with looks maxing, you might say. He very much appreciates people who

01:03:06.620 are hot. He does. He remarks on it all the time. You know, he's very focused on looks. And let's

01:03:13.660 face it, we're a looks-based society.

01:03:15.760 I focus on people's looks, too.

01:03:17.320 He's not alone in that.

01:03:19.120 So he goes to speak at the Coast Guard graduation ceremony yesterday, Stu.

01:03:25.900 And let me play you what he said before I show you what happened next.

01:03:31.240 Sot 10.

01:03:32.240 For the last four straight years, which I think may be an all-time record,

01:03:37.940 congratulations to Thomas Rhodes.

01:03:40.380 Thomas, get up here, please.

01:03:42.040 I want to see.

01:03:43.660 I want to check him out.

01:03:45.120 Oh, he's we're not going to fight with him.

01:03:51.080 I'm not fighting him.

01:03:53.660 I'm not.

01:03:54.340 This is not UFC.

01:03:55.500 Please understand that, Thomas.

01:03:57.460 Look at this guy.

01:03:58.340 Look at the muscles in this guy. 0.96

01:04:12.260 Just hit him on the shoulder.

01:04:13.660 hurt my hand it's like hitting a rock that's great thomas that's fantastic

01:04:18.820 okay so it's amazing because we've been laughing and sharing behind the scenes on my team

01:04:27.660 these videos by a guy named branson deets who sorry gates uh who long before this

01:04:35.840 has been taking various trump clips it's not a politics thing it's just a comedy thing and 0.94

01:04:42.020 like mouthing them he does he mouths over them with trump's voice as though he's gay like from 0.71

01:04:50.340 the perspective of being a gay man okay let me just i can't explain it just watch he just he 0.98

01:04:54.780 did this one just now watch i hate good-looking men we also have the only cadet who earned a 0.73

01:05:05.240 perfect score on every single fitness test. Now we're talking fitness. Do you know who this is

01:05:12.140 already? Wow, this guy must be something. I think we'll have to invite him up. I want to check it

01:05:16.160 out. Congratulations to Thomas Roach. Thomas, get up here, please. I want to see. I want to check

01:05:23.880 him out. Look at this guy. Look at the muscles on this guy. Just hit him on the shoulder. I hurt

01:05:31.540 my hand it's like hitting a rock that's great thomas that's fantastic 0.94

01:05:37.000 over the podcast listeners you just see this guy who looks gay acting kind of gay doing gay

01:05:47.580 hand movements if there is such a thing to that same soundtrack it's very clever this is the way

01:05:53.280 in which the the internet is used for good stew yeah it is and by the way going back to our

01:05:57.940 previous conversation here we are people who appreciate a lot of the stuff that trump does

01:06:02.880 uh you know he's as president of the united states we like as many of his policies here we are

01:06:09.460 laughing right because it's you can laugh at your own side you can they could have laughed at joe

01:06:14.720 biden on colbert they could have it's not that we have a problem that you're making fun of donald

01:06:19.640 trump uh it would be nice if you just did it in a way that prioritized the comedy right like if

01:06:25.260 You actually cared.

01:06:26.520 Yeah, make me laugh.

01:06:27.320 Yeah, make us laugh.

01:06:28.460 It brings us together.

01:06:30.300 That's what the late night shows used to do.

01:06:32.340 If you had a president, if you loved Ronald Reagan, you loved Barack Obama, in theory,

01:06:38.100 it would be great that you could go on there, you get someone who's criticizing your own

01:06:42.180 side, you laugh at a little bit.

01:06:43.920 I've had a lot of laughs at Donald Trump's expense over the years, and he's had many

01:06:48.300 as well.

01:06:48.780 Republicans are totally ready to laugh.

01:06:50.360 They will laugh at Donald Trump.

01:06:51.820 They'll laugh with him.

01:06:52.760 They'll laugh at him.

01:06:53.520 they're not incapable of doing that it's just that everything that these late night guys produce

01:06:58.940 is so full of bile that you're not laughing you're recoiling i've got one more he goes by

01:07:05.360 bran hatton online here's thought 11 there were a number of people who were very very scared

01:07:11.460 how worried were you that there were going to be injuries

01:07:15.260 i wasn't worried i understand life we live in a crazy world uh i didn't want to see what was

01:07:27.340 happening because i did watch because i could see what was going on at the door i also saw a lot of

01:07:33.360 very strong uh physically strong really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors

01:07:42.640 and frankly it made me feel very safe very very safe there's nobody going to get by them

01:07:48.280 the counter-assault team that comes in they were very impressive i think they were very impressive

01:07:52.240 that's great i've never seen those clips playing with his necklace oh my gosh he's so funny it's

01:08:02.680 such a funny imagining of trump it is funny too it is one of those things where you you don't

01:08:08.740 really think about the words that he's saying sometimes he just kind of goes off of on these

01:08:14.400 that's a great uh a great bit uh that that guy's incredible uh i don't know i mean i guys this guy's

01:08:21.500 on the lookout for anything referencing you know somebody's appearance that was after of course the

01:08:27.800 latest assassination attempt which was an odd place to find trump remarking on the good looks

01:08:33.500 and muscles of the security team but it's one of those things i'll bet you just like every

01:08:41.280 every gay man i know has wanted to know whether any personality i anchored with if fox news was

01:08:48.120 gay i'll bet you there are a lot of gay men out there who what are really hoping there's a chance

01:08:52.920 on trump because he's strong he's older now but he's still like you know most a lot of people

01:08:58.520 like a strong man yeah i don't know he's had a pretty high appreciation of uh female beauty over

01:09:04.940 the years so i'm i'd hate to let those these these gentlemen down but i don't think that uh that big

01:09:09.560 announcement's coming no yeah i think it's more about his appreciation for looks than is uh any

01:09:15.960 attraction uh a quick last one here sat 12 look at the muscles of this guy excuse me could you stand

01:09:22.120 up look at that guy you and the beautiful white shirt would you look at this guy holy mackerel i'm

01:09:27.960 looking at him i always wanted to look like that i just didn't want to do the work

01:09:34.240 you look good don't let anyone stop you you look good

01:09:38.920 those are incredible so funny right he's so good i'm really into this guy behind the scenes we've

01:09:48.700 been laughing about this for a long time um okay let's keep going hollywood remains woke as ever

01:09:55.220 unfortunately just when you think like they've learned their lesson they prove that you are wrong

01:09:59.600 and i think you guys have talked about this on your show but the odyssey now first of all who

01:10:06.800 decided it would be a good idea to make a movie out of the book no one wanted to read and no one

01:10:12.400 enjoyed in high school right like the odyssey was like the it's like a door stopper book that you

01:10:18.060 were like when will it end good gracious it went on forever it was so boring that's what i remember

01:10:24.180 about the odyssey like who's like homer that's a good idea anyway they're doing it and um

01:10:31.440 they're hold on a second i'm trying to find my my packet on this standby um the guy who produced

01:10:40.320 um oppenheimer is putting this together christopher nolan and instead of for example having

01:10:49.640 a white woman play Helen of Troy said to, you know, mythologically be the most beautiful woman

01:10:57.980 in the world and described as extremely white in the book. It mentions that she's 0.99

01:11:04.980 white armed and or pale armed. And there are other references. It's played by it's going to

01:11:12.260 be played by a black woman, by Lupita Nyong'o. Okay. So Matt Walsh, you know, he kind of put it

01:11:20.320 better than I could, but he writes, not one person on the planet actually thinks that Lupita Nyong'o

01:11:26.020 is the most beautiful woman in the world. But Christopher Nolan, he knows that he would be

01:11:30.680 called racist if he gave the most beautiful woman role to a white woman. Nolan is technically

01:11:36.380 talented, he says, but a coward, too afraid to do anything other, anything that even slightly 0.95

01:11:41.940 challenges the spirit of the age. We're told we should not object to Helen of Troy being portrayed

01:11:47.400 by a black woman. And yet if a major Hollywood studio made a film set in Africa and cast a white 0.53

01:11:53.560 woman as the most beautiful woman in Africa, those same people would literally riot in the streets. 1.00

01:12:00.480 He's 100% right. 1.00

01:12:02.060 And it's not just the role of Helen of Troy.

01:12:06.460 Nyong'o also plays Helen of Troy's sister from the novel.

01:12:11.780 And in addition to that, you've got Elliot Page.

01:12:17.940 Hello, Ellen Page, who's masquerading very badly, by the way, as a male these days,

01:12:23.920 who's going to be cast in it, reportedly as Achilles, who's male. Again, the character is

01:12:31.800 male, and they've chosen a fake male who's not in any way heroic. And Achilles is a tragic Greek

01:12:40.000 hero who Odysseus meets in the underworld. Odysseus is played by Matt Damon. So you've got

01:12:47.420 Elliot Page in there. And then you've got Travis Scott, who I think is the father of one of the

01:12:55.120 Kardashian babies and a singer, is going to be in the movie as well as a professional poet,

01:13:01.640 singer, and storyteller. I don't know why, but we both know that Hollywood has these diversity

01:13:07.580 rules now that lead to all sorts of weird and inappropriate casting decisions. And Christopher

01:13:14.220 Nolan is hashtag part of the problem still. Yeah, it's a very strange story. I mean, you know,

01:13:21.160 I, you know, I get, I granted these are mythological figures, right? I mean, you know,

01:13:26.740 it's not like, and we wouldn't put this past Hollywood where they have done this and they've

01:13:30.620 taken actual, you know, African-American actors and put them in the role of real historical figures

01:13:36.260 who were white. I mean, it's, you know, that's even more offensive to me than this. But again, 0.74

01:13:41.180 And, you know, I look at this and I say, you know, you're trying to tell the story.

01:13:45.920 There's no reason to do this.

01:13:47.460 And you would, as you point out, never do it the opposite way.

01:13:50.180 I was looking back at this.

01:13:51.360 I think it's been about 20 some odd years since something like this happened.

01:13:55.840 Right. 0.60

01:13:56.160 Where the opposite occurred, where you put a white person in a role of an African-American.

01:14:03.120 I can't do that.

01:14:04.100 You can't do that.

01:14:04.900 And, you know, look, it did happen for a real long time.

01:14:07.600 That was a real thing that happened in our history, going back a long ways.

01:14:12.300 I don't think it's something that we want to come back.

01:14:16.320 Having some sort of historical accuracy.

01:14:18.280 And again, while it is a mythology, they do say the Pale Arms thing is in there, right?

01:14:25.160 Like, there is a description, so it would make sense.

01:14:28.540 We saw this with Snow White, right?

01:14:30.280 Where you're like, wait a minute, White is in the title?

01:14:32.880 You know, you'd think that they would do this. 0.54

01:14:34.700 Yes.

01:14:34.820 And then you have the sad, sad story of Ellen Page, who I think actually was great when she was, I mean, Juno is a great movie.

01:14:43.720 I love Juno.

01:14:44.640 I stand by that movie.

01:14:45.540 I think it's a great movie.

01:14:46.220 She was pretty, too.

01:14:46.840 Very pretty.

01:14:47.840 And I honestly think that whole movie, that particular movie, Juno, which wound up being viewed positively by pro-life people like me, really screwed with her head, honestly.

01:14:59.200 Ever since that happened, she's been on this constant tour to prove she swears that she doesn't actually like people who are pro-life or something.

01:15:07.580 There's been this kind of retribution against what people wound up perceiving her as after that movie.

01:15:12.960 And again, she's an actress.

01:15:14.400 Again, I didn't think that she agreed with me on that issue.

01:15:18.440 They just put a somewhat positive light on 50% of the country for an hour and a half.

01:15:25.920 And just that was seemingly enough to throw her into this spiral that winds up her being Elliot and playing some role in this movie, which I don't know if it's Achilles.

01:15:36.200 I've heard that maybe it's not, maybe it's another role.

01:15:38.340 But whatever it is, if she's credited as Elliot, she's already playing a role before the movie begins.

01:15:46.380 Yeah, that's exactly right.

01:15:48.360 It's sad to me.

01:15:49.820 What's happened to Ellen Page is sad to me.

01:15:51.960 I mean, she was this pretty and very talented actress who America fell in love with in that movie.

01:15:59.740 And she's obviously very unwell.

01:16:02.080 I mean, that's what's true.

01:16:03.220 She's obviously very unwell to have done this to herself.

01:16:05.300 And we're supposed to celebrate this. 0.91

01:16:06.960 She poses like proudly with her scarred chest showing where her breasts used to be.

01:16:13.540 And we're supposed to celebrate her.

01:16:14.760 And we're actually supposed to buy the lie that she's a man.

01:16:18.280 This is like, you know, they just there's been a big debate on the left about whether they should release the DNC should release this autopsy report about why it lost the 2024 election, which is like, OK, I mean, I don't care whether they do or they don't.

01:16:31.460 I mean, I know why they lost the election. There are a lot of reasons. Number one is Kamala Harris sucks.

01:16:36.160 But really above that is their far left insanity. You know, they're they're they're chopping off the body parts of healthy children. 1.00

01:16:43.640 OK, how's that? I've summed it up for you. You don't need to see your autopsy.

01:16:48.280 Um, but it is now they've released it. I guess this guy who's running the DNC who nobody knows

01:16:54.400 about, um, what's his name? Ken Martin. He, while under pressure from the guys at Pod Save and

01:17:00.780 elsewhere, finally said, okay, I'll release it. It seems to be rather boring based on what I've

01:17:05.040 seen. I've just read a summary, but one of the, one of the things they do point out in the summary

01:17:09.880 is the trans stuff. And in particular, they point to that transgender focused ad that Trump released

01:17:17.520 Kamala's for they them. Trump is for you. Remember? And it pointed out that she wanted to pay

01:17:22.900 for the sex change operations of prisoners in California, which was a real thing. And like

01:17:30.580 Elliot, whether it's Elliot Page in Hollywood doing this and forcing this character on us as a

01:17:35.520 male, as like someone who's supposed to be like a badass male in folklore, or it's Kamala Harris

01:17:45.100 trying to make us get involved in actually pay for chopping people's healthy body parts off 1.00

01:17:50.740 so they can pretend they're something they're not. 0.88

01:17:53.580 This is what this is why Republicans have still at least a shot in the midterms still.

01:17:59.560 You know, it's like they've been quiet.

01:18:01.560 The Democrats have been smart, very, very uncharacteristically smart over the past four months.

01:18:07.100 They've kept their mouths shut and let Trump twist in the wind over the Iran war in the economy where he remains.

01:18:14.020 because the latest polls out of from Fox News are dreadful for Trump and the Republicans.

01:18:20.420 But this kind of thing does remind us of what's behind the other curtain.

01:18:26.860 And it's no good.

01:18:28.420 Yeah, no, you're totally right.

01:18:29.780 I mean, really, what they need to do is just get out of the way.

01:18:31.900 If they get out of the way of themselves and allow nature to take course in the midterms,

01:18:36.620 likely they're going to win, not because of anything magical that they have on their own,

01:18:40.560 But because history, election after election after election in the midterm, the party in power, when it comes to the president of the United States, almost always loses seats outside of massively outlier type situations like, you know, 9-11, right?

01:18:54.780 It's very difficult.

01:18:56.540 We did a thing on this on my show, Predictable, where you go back and you look through history.

01:19:01.020 And it's something like 9% of the time, 9% of the time you're able to defend the House going back a century.

01:19:07.520 It's incredibly difficult to do.

01:19:09.780 then add on to that that we are looking at four and five and six dollar gas around the country

01:19:15.840 right now you have a very unpopular situation in iran this isn't something that is is testing well

01:19:22.220 at all uh you have uh economic problems you have even you know you look at the core of of who moved

01:19:29.620 toward trump in 2024 uh what a lot of those gains happened among hispanic uh voters who have been

01:19:36.800 kind of turned off as some of the of the policies of this particular run for trump and you know all

01:19:42.600 that adding up this should be just cake frankly for uh democrats they honestly if they just don't

01:19:48.880 yell out things like you defund the police and that boy is actually a girl because of a series 0.60

01:19:54.500 of magic words we've contrived if they can stay away from that stuff trans men are women trans 0.85

01:19:59.960 men are women they should be playing they should be uh wrestling against your daughter and throwing 0.97

01:20:05.040 them to the ground and spiking volleyballs into their heads these are not difficult policies to 0.98

01:20:09.500 stay away from an open border is humane right you don't need you don't need to do a lot again go

01:20:15.620 back to los angeles just don't burn down the city and you win that's how easy this is but they can't

01:20:22.640 even stay out of their way that much and because of you know we were you look at the you know the

01:20:27.000 prediction markets we had had the democrats rise from about 58 before november's election all the

01:20:33.660 way up to about 85 percent that has now drizzled down a little bit to 72 73 percent largely because

01:20:40.900 a lot of these rulings when it comes to the redistricting offerings of virginia getting

01:20:45.500 overturned uh the supreme court case that has these southern states now redistricting and

01:20:50.340 getting rid of some of these majority minority districts all that in boring stuff aside it is

01:20:54.560 giving the republicans now a chance that if they can turn around some of these things that are 1.00

01:21:00.320 affecting real people when it comes to the economy, when it comes to gas prices, when

01:21:04.600 it comes to them seeing a vision of a war that might not be ending for years and years

01:21:09.680 and years and years.

01:21:10.760 That type of stuff, if they can cure that, and there's a small window for it here in

01:21:14.740 the next few months, they can turn that around and put it behind them so people can see things

01:21:19.100 going in the right direction. 1.00

01:21:19.940 There actually is an opportunity here only because Donald Trump is blessed with the dumbest 1.00

01:21:25.980 enemies possible, right? 1.00

01:21:27.220 It is really something he has. 1.00

01:21:29.200 And if they just continue to do the stupid things that they continue to do, there is an opportunity. 1.00

01:21:35.040 There's a small window. 1.00

01:21:36.220 It's not going to be easy for Republicans, but it does exist.

01:21:39.700 They're going to need it.

01:21:40.960 They're going to need to be reminded of what is over on Team Blue because, honestly, these Fox News polls are so bad, Stu.

01:21:48.660 Horrible.

01:21:49.060 And the audience should know.

01:21:50.180 I know the Fox News polling unit very well.

01:21:52.400 I've worked with them for years.

01:21:54.700 Even though it's Fox, which leans right, the polling unit is independent.

01:21:58.700 They don't lean right. So if there's ever like a good poll for Trump, the left will say, oh, well, it's Fox News.

01:22:08.140 You know, that's not how it works. They play it straight down the middle.

01:22:11.320 So this one will be no better or worse for Trump than any other outlet there.

01:22:15.460 In fact, Fox polls tend to be, in my experience, the best polls. I trust the Fox polls implicitly.

01:22:20.860 But what they're showing is that he now has an approval rating of 39 percent.

01:22:25.420 It's down three points since last month.

01:22:28.060 It's one point above Trump's lowest number ever, which was October 2017.

01:22:34.500 So his lowest ever is 38.

01:22:36.260 Fox News is showing him at 39% approval.

01:22:39.200 His net approval on the key issues shows on inflation, he's underwater with the voters

01:22:45.060 by 52 points.

01:22:48.120 By 52, he's negative 52 on inflation.

01:22:52.780 He's negative 42 on the economy.

01:22:56.320 He's negative 24 on foreign policy.

01:22:58.860 They don't like the China summit.

01:23:00.280 He's underwater there, not minus eight.

01:23:02.040 He's underwater on immigration, minus eight.

01:23:03.960 He's even underwater on border security, minus two. 1.00

01:23:06.940 He's underwater with white non-college men 0.78

01:23:10.800 who he was plus 17 with last March,

01:23:14.660 March a year ago, 25.

01:23:16.320 Now he's down minus eight in the Fox News poll,

01:23:19.840 which is a 25-point swing to the negative with white, non-college men.

01:23:25.260 That's Trump's base.

01:23:27.220 His approval is at an all-time low amongst Republicans.

01:23:31.100 It's at 80%, but that's an all-time low. 0.56

01:23:33.520 And non-MAGA Republicans, people who are now calling themselves America First,

01:23:38.160 because Trump says MAGA means you love Mark Levin, and many of us don't.

01:23:42.980 That's an approval rating of just 54%.

01:23:47.260 So these are bad.

01:23:48.840 And I've got to play the soundbite for you 0.95

01:23:51.080 of a woman named Janet,

01:23:53.380 who's an MK show listener, Stu.

01:23:55.940 And, you know, after we do the show live on SiriusXM,

01:23:58.800 12 to two, as you know,

01:23:59.620 because you're here doing it with me right now,

01:24:01.320 Monday through Friday.

01:24:02.760 And then we release it as a podcast and a YouTube show.

01:24:04.960 But after our show on SiriusXM,

01:24:07.340 Emily Jashinsky hosts an hour of,

01:24:10.020 we call it the wrap-up show.

01:24:11.380 And a lot of the audience will call in.

01:24:13.360 I actually love listening to it.

01:24:14.780 Like if I'm, if I leave and I can get to the radio, I always turn it on and I love listening

01:24:20.180 to the audience and some of them rip on me and some of them agree with me, but I love them all.

01:24:24.840 And this particular day, a woman named Janet from Long Island called. This is just Monday.

01:24:31.120 And listen to what she said. It actually, it's made some news. This woman's call. Take a listen.

01:24:36.580 Heading now to Janet in Long Island. You're on the Megyn Kelly wrap up show. What's on your mind?

01:24:40.240 I feel abandoned. I'm a Trump diehard. I'm 68, my husband's 69. We're never going to stop working.

01:24:47.180 He's a contract electrician. We built our house. We're going to have to move out of Dix Hills

01:24:50.980 because the taxes are $16,000. I don't want to quit working because Medicare is too much money.

01:24:56.260 So I get benefits where I work. He has abandoned the middle class. He has to show us that all those

01:25:01.900 people on barstools across America, you know, hardworking construction guys, plumbers, the

01:25:08.000 People that stood up to him when it wasn't popular to stand up for him.

01:25:11.940 He needs to help us, give us back, black tax, anything.

01:25:15.640 Just make our life easier.

01:25:18.440 I feel like he's listening to the wrong people.

01:25:20.720 And, yeah, when he started that war, I didn't sign up for it.

01:25:24.640 When I had my first boy, I'm one of five girls.

01:25:27.940 And when I had my son, the first thing I just popped my head up and said, oh, my God, he could be drafted.

01:25:32.540 I don't want my children or my friend's children dying in a war that has nothing to do with us.

01:25:38.760 That's very powerful. And by the way, thank you for calling in, Janet, and sharing that. And I think,

01:25:44.240 Stu, he's going to have to address Janet's concerns and the millions of voters who are

01:25:49.100 feeling the same, who are triple Trump voters, if he wants his party to turn its fortunes around

01:25:57.480 in these November midterms, which right now do not look good.

01:26:01.980 No, they don't look good.

01:26:03.680 And, you know, while there's been some maybe beneficial movement when it comes to the redistricting thing, you know, that's not enough.

01:26:11.220 You can't win.

01:26:12.820 Even if things were going pretty well, it would be hard for for them to win.

01:26:16.060 They come in with a two, three seat majority.

01:26:18.060 Right. Just minor, minor losses is going to mean the House goes away that the Senate is at risk, certainly.

01:26:25.140 I mean, I think most places see it as like a 50 50 proposition as the Democrats get it when the Senate should not.

01:26:31.160 have been, the way the Senate is set up, Republicans should be heavily favored. I mean,

01:26:37.320 there should be an 80 or 90 percent chance of them winning. And the fact that it's 50-50,

01:26:41.220 it's because of people like Janet. Or, I'm sorry to put it so frankly,

01:26:43.840 or your child has a chance of turning into an Elliott Page. Like, truly, this can't happen.

01:26:49.360 Like, the Democrat Party is the one pushing this trans madness on us, open border madness on us. 0.63

01:26:54.940 The only one who's abandoned that is Rahm Emanuel on the Democrat side. Gavin Newsom wants an open

01:26:59.280 border. So does Kamala Harris. She's reportedly running again. I haven't seen one other Democrat

01:27:03.200 say no, that they would keep Trump's border the way it is. The risks are extremely high

01:27:08.140 in stacking, in particular, the Senate with more Dems. Sorry to interrupt. Keep going.

01:27:13.600 No, no. It's true, though. I mean, I think there is a one of the things that I think

01:27:17.680 hits hard about the trans issue in particular is not necessarily about trans issues. I honestly

01:27:23.820 would argue that most Americans really don't want to think about it. You know, we understand

01:27:28.620 that people go through things and there's difficult things they're dealing with and

01:27:31.600 honestly like i got enough stuff going on in my own life i don't really want to think about what

01:27:35.560 you're doing uh with with your uh with your reproductive organs frankly i i think the average

01:27:41.640 american is like i just want to look the other way and move on with my life and get to the

01:27:45.900 restaurant or whatever i'm doing um but what where that hit i think centrally to people as a as a

01:27:52.080 campaign issue is that it hit at a very fundamental thing that we need which is truth

01:27:57.320 we must have we must be able to agree that when a person is born a man or a boy and they grow up

01:28:04.580 and they become a man they can't with a series of magical words they can't say abracadabra or

01:28:09.460 beetlejuice a certain amount of times to change their gender we all understand everybody including

01:28:15.780 those people on the left that embrace those policies and go on television and act like they

01:28:21.020 believe them none of them believe that is a true thing none of them believe that is possible

01:28:26.980 but they say it anyway and that feels like people have abandoned the fundamental precept of america

01:28:35.020 right that we're going to be here we're common sense people and we're going to go forward and

01:28:39.400 we're going to just say the things that are true and all of that is is really really important and

01:28:44.600 it is a core issue but typically what happens when it comes to elections and i would say even more

01:28:51.200 central with off year elections and midterms is that if they are getting hit in the face constantly

01:28:58.020 with issues that are affecting them more the trans issue is really important because it hits

01:29:04.020 at truth but most people aren't interacting with those issues on a day-to-day basis some are and

01:29:09.180 they're really important to talk about janet's worried about her wallet she's worried about

01:29:13.300 her wallet she's paying her bills her kids or grandkids right that that's what they care about

01:29:18.180 And in the absence of those issues, a lot of times people will be able to focus on other important things.

01:29:24.720 When those things slap you in the face, the ideology goes out of the window, honestly, with a lot of people.

01:29:29.880 Even if they believe in a lot of the things that Donald Trump cares about, if they believe that he is doing a good job on a good portion,

01:29:36.100 and I think there is a good portion to argue on his behalf from this presidency,

01:29:39.540 If this stuff happens and the result of it is we have a president who is basically trying to convince people that their economic situation is better than it is, hey, you should recognize we actually are in the golden age of America.

01:29:55.220 I mean, Trump has made these arguments very recently.

01:29:57.440 We've done it.

01:29:58.300 We're there.

01:29:58.840 We've solved these problems.

01:30:00.320 That's what Joe Biden tried to do with Bidenomics, right?

01:30:04.000 He tried to say Bidenomics is working.

01:30:05.860 And the American people said, no, it's not.

01:30:08.020 we're the ones dealing with it and we're saying no there is an opening here but it is we're almost

01:30:14.020 to summer here megan you know what the the concept of turning this around let me tell you what

01:30:19.820 happens too let me tell you what happens in the summer um as somebody who's been in news for 24

01:30:25.420 years in the summer everybody's numbers go down people kind of turn off the news please continue

01:30:32.760 listening to the Megyn Kelly show, and also predictable with Stu. But in general, they always

01:30:38.460 go like softer in the summer because people are out living their lives. They're outside. They're

01:30:43.360 enjoying themselves. They have time off. That is not a great time for Trump to then burst onto the

01:30:49.440 scene with new messaging because people aren't going to hear it. Nowhere near the number he needs

01:30:55.520 are going to hear it. Now they come back in the fall, so he'll have that time. But now we're

01:31:00.100 really talking about a crunch timeline people go back to school the beginning of september so now

01:31:04.520 you have 60 days until the midterms it's not a lot of time yeah so like he needs to be laser-like

01:31:11.240 focused on not just talking about their economic problems now but actually fixing them you know

01:31:18.680 because the messaging he's been saying lately that what i heard him this week was saying was

01:31:22.700 the market the market's doing so well that no one cares about that that's something rich people care

01:31:29.280 about. You know, it's like the market is sort of a luxury belief. You might have some 401k money

01:31:34.560 in there, but that's something you're trying not to tap into when you're younger and not yet

01:31:39.320 retired. It definitely isn't going to help you with your grocery bills or your, you know, tuition

01:31:44.720 bill or your hope for a vacation this year. You know, like they need immediate relief on in

01:31:51.700 particular inflation, which he's minus 52 on that in particular. And honestly, like that's directly

01:31:57.400 tied to the Iran war and the increased oil prices and energy prices, which are driving everything up

01:32:03.220 from, you know, gas prices to groceries. So there's the honest truth. That's where it is.

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01:35:02.380 Stu Bergeer is back with me now.

01:35:04.620 Stu, there is a very disturbing legal case out of the UK right now, which is one of those cases that speaks volumes about where a society is.

01:35:14.920 and our friends across the pond need help.

01:35:18.460 They've just lost their way over there.

01:35:20.920 They are so obsessed with identity politics. 1.00

01:35:23.680 They hate white people. 0.99

01:35:26.340 They've surrendered their culture 1.00

01:35:28.240 to an influx of people 1.00

01:35:30.760 from some very problematic countries

01:35:33.520 who are now objecting to the British flag flying at all

01:35:37.160 as somehow an act of aggression.

01:35:39.180 We've shown the audience the videos.

01:35:42.120 And now this.

01:35:43.500 There was a young man named Henry Nowak. He was 18 years old and in his first year of college

01:35:52.660 studying accounting. In December of 2023, he was walking home from a night out with friends

01:35:58.560 and he had been drinking but was still at the place where he could drive legally. He did not

01:36:05.440 have a high blood alcohol content. He ran into a man named Vikram Digwa, who's Sikh, who's 23

01:36:15.340 years old, so five years older than Henry. This guy, Vikram, was carrying an eight inch long knife 0.58

01:36:22.540 and along with something called a kirpan, which is a ceremonial blade. Now in the UK, you're not

01:36:29.280 allowed to carry certain knives in public unless it's a religious exemption. And this kind of knife

01:36:39.320 is permitted under one of those exemptions. So you can see this is the type of knife that we're

01:36:44.800 showing on the board, not the actual. But my God, look at it. I mean, it's amazing that this thing

01:36:49.420 is legal to carry around. It looks like a long curved dagger that you would not want to find

01:36:54.060 anywhere near you. So these two ran into each other and Nowak, Henry, managed to record a video

01:37:02.740 on his phone. We don't have any of the elements because they haven't released them, but it shows

01:37:08.200 that Henry was speaking to friends on Snapchat when he came across Vikram Digwa. They did exchange

01:37:16.680 words, Henry is heard saying, in it bad man, what bad man? You're a bad man. Say you're a bad man. 0.78

01:37:24.500 Go on. And Digwa responded, I am a bad man. Henry Nowak replied, are you a bee? Before the footage

01:37:33.260 cuts off. So we don't know what he was saying there. What we do know is shortly after that,

01:37:40.120 police were called to the scene. They placed Henry Nowak under arrest, and Digwa claimed that he'd

01:37:48.380 been racially abused by Henry, which we understand is why Henry was placed under arrest. The

01:37:57.020 brother of Digwa said, we've just been attacked by someone racially. We got attacked racially

01:38:04.840 by some white person.

01:38:07.080 The brother said,

01:38:08.500 they physically attacked my brother.

01:38:10.500 We're Sikhs.

01:38:11.280 We wear turbans.

01:38:12.520 And he attacked my brother.

01:38:15.040 The police arrived.

01:38:16.460 Their body cam footage was shown in court.

01:38:19.300 They're trying to place Henry Nowak under arrest

01:38:22.920 as he says to the officers,

01:38:25.460 I've been stabbed.

01:38:27.440 I've been stabbed.

01:38:29.280 I can't breathe.

01:38:30.920 They put the handcuffs on him.

01:38:32.660 He was now lying down on his side.

01:38:34.840 telling the officers, I've been stabbed. I can't breathe. They didn't believe him.

01:38:42.620 The officer told Henry he was under arrest for suspicion of assault because that's what Digwa

01:38:47.820 and the brother were saying. Nowak repeated, I've been stabbed. I've been stabbed. A male voice

01:38:54.180 believed to belong to the police officer said, I don't think you have, mate. The prosecutor

01:39:00.260 alleges that Digwa did not seek help for the man, did not step in to say to the police,

01:39:07.680 he has indeed been stabbed by me. He knew he had stabbed Henry. Henry was telling the truth

01:39:17.040 and he had stabbed him in the lung. And the man, as he laid dying, was saying, I can't breathe

01:39:26.040 because he'd been stabbed in the lung.

01:39:29.820 The cops did not believe him and his assailant,

01:39:32.440 who was claiming to be the victim of, quote,

01:39:35.280 a racial assault, of which there is zero evidence,

01:39:40.040 stood there and watched him die.

01:39:43.720 After NOAC collapsed, the police started rendering aid.

01:39:47.960 Digwa's mother is also under arrest, by the way,

01:39:50.940 and on trial because she removed the murder weapon from the scene

01:39:55.480 and then hit it at her home where police later recovered it.

01:40:01.660 The defendant was interviewed by police five times.

01:40:04.180 He refused to answer any questions.

01:40:05.780 Instead, he submitted a statement in which he said he was walking toward his brother's car

01:40:08.600 when Nowak, who he said was intoxicated, came at me and racially and physically abused me.

01:40:15.940 He claimed he was petrified and pulled out his phone to record his attack.

01:40:20.720 And yet what we have here is that the victim's phone was found on Digwa.

01:40:26.840 He took Henry's phone and he didn't help Henry.

01:40:31.300 He let him die as the police didn't believe this kid who happened to be white was dying of injuries from that knife stuck into his lung.

01:40:40.980 This is so horrific.

01:40:43.180 Elon Musk is now promising to pay for the legal fees.

01:40:47.200 if Henry's family wants to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the police who did not believe

01:40:54.920 him, you know, as he lay dying. And what's clearly going on here, I believe, is identity politics did

01:41:02.460 not allow the police to understand that there could be a true dynamic in which the white boy

01:41:08.460 was the victim and the dark-skinned man was the assailant and that the claims of racial attacks

01:41:16.180 were apparently untrue your thoughts on it that's an unbelievable story you know this is the stuff

01:41:23.560 that shouldn't be happening i mean i think we could all rewind back 50 or 100 years and think

01:41:28.520 to ourselves you could see a situation where the opposite would happen right where maybe a time

01:41:33.820 where we were doing things the wrong way and everyone can now acknowledge that where maybe

01:41:38.860 and this has happened there are stories of this where white people would claim they were being

01:41:43.480 attacked by a black person and the police would show up and they would just you know assume the

01:41:47.920 black person was the bad one in that action and i kind of thought we all agreed that was the wrong

01:41:53.180 way to do things that pick you know deciding these incidents based on skin color was the wrong

01:41:58.580 approach uh and for whatever reason the left wants to bring that back in europe and in england and

01:42:04.220 and all over uh that entire vicinity that seems to be even farther along than we are here but we're 0.85

01:42:10.660 on that same road this you suck that stuff out stop thinking about identity stop thinking about

01:42:16.500 whether someone is take gender and take uh take skin color and all these factors out these 0.93

01:42:22.620 immutable characteristics should not be the story and and over and over again the left and the media

01:42:29.040 wants to make it the story it's the wrong way to go go the colorblind society was right we got

01:42:34.480 something right we should we should continue to go after that ideal even though it is difficult 0.65

01:42:39.380 for human beings to achieve it.

01:42:41.460 Well said.

01:42:42.300 Great to see you, Stu.

01:42:43.740 Everybody check out Stu over on Predictable,

01:42:46.720 and we will be back tomorrow with Kelly's Court.

01:42:49.040 See you then. 0.92

01:42:51.160 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:42:53.400 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:43:02.120 One sweet bite of a Hershey's bar,

01:43:04.400 and suddenly I'm right back outside Mrs. Potts' house on Halloween.

01:43:07.460 I'm six years old and dressed like a lobster.

01:43:11.000 All the kids reached in for candy.

01:43:13.180 I poked and I jabbed.

01:43:14.420 I pinched and I clawed.

01:43:15.700 I couldn't grab a thing. 0.99

01:43:17.180 But Mrs. Potts had the good candy just for me.

01:43:21.060 A Hershey's Large Bar. 1.00

01:43:23.260 Everyone was jealous.

01:43:24.840 Now, as an adult, I'll always be the house with the good candy.

01:43:28.080 Hershey's Large Bars.

01:43:29.440 Hershey's.

01:43:30.260 It's your happy place.

The Megyn Kelly Show - May 21, 2026

Colbert's PAINFUL Goodbye, Lemon's Whining About White Men, and Trump's Hilarious Rant, with Stu Burguiere ｜ Ep. 1322

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