The Megyn Kelly Show - Crockett's Identity Theft, Vance's Dominance, and Death of Legacy Media - Link Lauren, Mark Halperin, and Glenn Beck at ＂Megyn Kelly Live＂

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:13.840 It's so great to be with you. It's so great. Please sit. Please get comfortable. I love you.

00:00:22.360 Love you too. It's such an honor to be with you guys tonight.

00:00:27.340 Just watching that tape, you know, brings back all the thought that went into whether we went forward with this tour or not, right?

00:00:36.380 Given everything that's happened. And I was thinking about it the other day because we have three kids.

00:00:42.000 They're 16, 14, and 12. Boy, girl, boy.

00:00:45.780 And my husband and my three kids had some concerns about doing the tour, just given everything.

00:00:51.880 And we understood as a family it had to happen.

00:00:54.320 They had concerns, but that it had to happen. And I told them it has to happen.

00:00:58.460 And as we got closer, my daughter Yardley said to me, Mom, she goes, you know what?

00:01:02.760 Just go out there. Have a great time.

00:01:05.300 And she said, and you remember, all these people who are actually going to show up at these events,

00:01:10.140 those are your most faithful listeners and viewers. They've got you.

00:01:15.660 I know. It's such a sweet thing for her to remind me of.

00:01:19.120 And I feel it. You know, this is our third event, and when I come out here, I feel it.

00:01:23.040 I feel that positive energy from all of you.

00:01:24.840 And it's, like, so sweet that my daughter, this 12-year-old, this 14-year-old, had this great messaging and this great insight.

00:01:31.300 And the reason she had that is because Doug and I are raising our kids to be strong, self-sufficient,

00:01:35.860 responsible children with good senses of perspective, as I know all of you are with your children.

00:01:40.540 Unlike some of the people who are in the news these days.

00:01:46.260 And I've been thinking about, we're going to talk about a few of these gals when Link Lauren comes out here.

00:01:50.780 Okay? Yeah.

00:01:52.200 There's no one better on these things than Link and Maureen.

00:01:55.880 So, did you happen to see the comment by Jennifer Lopez in the news?

00:02:01.340 She spoke to Howard Stern at SiriusXM.

00:02:03.180 And Jennifer Lopez, who's been married, like, 24 times, has some thoughts on relationships.

00:02:11.020 And actually had the nerve to tell Howard Stern, no one was capable of loving me.

00:02:17.360 It wasn't me.

00:02:18.940 I'm worthy.

00:02:20.180 But they weren't capable.

00:02:21.840 I've never been loved.

00:02:23.600 And it took about three, two, one, before the first husband, who no one's ever heard of, who was, like, a civilian she married,

00:02:29.240 came out and said, I loved you all the time.

00:02:31.560 You cheated on me with everything that moved.

00:02:35.700 Like, why would she wave the red flag in front of the bull like that?

00:02:39.420 You know you're going to get that if that's how you behaved in your marriages.

00:02:42.600 But it was amazing to me that she had the nerve to say such a thing, right?

00:02:45.160 And then Ben Affleck, we know all the stories, A-Rod, yada, yada.

00:02:48.720 There's her.

00:02:49.220 Then there was Jennifer Aniston.

00:02:51.900 She was in the news making comment on how she didn't have children.

00:02:56.100 And she kind of shrugged it off like, oh, you know, the opportunity never presented itself.

00:02:59.500 Now, why did the opportunity never present itself?

00:03:03.080 Because you were too busy working on your career.

00:03:05.880 That's fine.

00:03:06.560 You wanted to be a big star.

00:03:07.940 You wanted to start movie after movie after movie after movie.

00:03:10.340 And that was more important to you than having children.

00:03:13.520 I'm sorry, but I think you made the wrong choice.

00:03:16.740 You know, I just, it's not that I'm against women working.

00:03:19.540 I think she was sold a bag of goods by feminists who control the messaging.

00:03:25.560 And she really thought that this would be fulfilling to her.

00:03:27.520 And now she's in her late 50s.

00:03:29.360 She has no children and she has no husband.

00:03:31.880 And I, I don't know whether she'll ever fully appreciate what she gave up for her fame and fortune.

00:03:37.940 But to me, both of those women have their values in the wrong place.

00:03:41.520 And I blame J-Lo as well, just for what it's worth.

00:03:44.220 Because you know what?

00:03:46.200 J-Lo's got one kid who says they're non-binary.

00:03:49.200 And then she married Ben Affleck.

00:03:50.360 And he's got a kid who's trans.

00:03:52.220 And I'm telling you, these people prioritize their career and the almighty dollar over everything.

00:03:58.220 And then they wind up like, gee, I don't know why I'm having all the problems.

00:04:01.580 Or in Jennifer Aniston's case, gee, I don't know where my children are.

00:04:04.960 You, you never prioritize the right things.

00:04:07.480 And that leads me to Oprah.

00:04:11.180 Okay.

00:04:11.580 Anyway, we need to have a chat about Oprah.

00:04:16.260 I've been talking about Oprah like privately in my, in my private life with Maureen Callahan, who's got lots of thoughts.

00:04:21.880 I really think Maureen needs to write her next book on Oprah.

00:04:25.680 I'm going to try to make it happen.

00:04:28.300 And a good friend of mine who's, she's a writer too and she's a reporter.

00:04:32.020 She's got a lot of thoughts on Oprah and she's a little younger than I am.

00:04:34.400 But she was sort of raised on the Oprah diet the way we all were of a certain age.

00:04:38.240 And it turns out we were raised by a sociopath.

00:04:42.460 If you look back at Oprah Winfrey and take a look at the messagings that, that she was feeding probably every woman in this room and a lot of men too.

00:04:50.500 This is not a well person.

00:04:52.460 We were like deeply misguided.

00:04:54.480 But she's another one who decided, I don't know, she didn't get married, right?

00:04:59.300 She and Stedman, they're not married.

00:05:00.560 I don't know what's going on there.

00:05:02.420 I think she might be a little closer to the astronaut.

00:05:07.340 She didn't have children.

00:05:09.180 Her show was her child.

00:05:10.860 Okay, great.

00:05:11.580 How much of a comfort is that to you now that you're 71 and it's ancient history?

00:05:15.460 And you're alone.

00:05:16.280 You don't have any grandkids.

00:05:17.240 You don't have any kids.

00:05:18.420 All right.

00:05:19.960 But Oprah, if you look back at what Oprah did, her biggest legacy was getting us all hooked on therapy culture.

00:05:28.440 And the real word for it today is rumination.

00:05:32.020 Which, as it turns out, we're now learning, is literally the worst thing you can do to get through your mental health struggles.

00:05:38.440 Rumination.

00:05:39.200 And what it basically means is you spend all your time thinking about your problems.

00:05:42.480 Thinking about yourself.

00:05:44.280 Navel gazing.

00:05:45.500 That's why I wore this jacket, so you could navel gaze with me.

00:05:50.540 That's what Oprah taught us all to do.

00:05:52.440 Think about yourself more, more, more.

00:05:54.740 And not just yourself and the possibilities of tomorrow and how well you might be doing today or what you could do to, you know, get what you're after.

00:06:02.340 But your problems.

00:06:03.980 All the terrible things that have ever happened to you.

00:06:06.420 That is a terrible recipe if you actually want to be a successful, happy person.

00:06:11.200 And lo and behold, we watched many years of Oprah not being a happy person.

00:06:15.140 Like, normalizing these weird weight swings.

00:06:18.280 Like, everybody has this compulsive overeating problem and we all want to go through the fat, thin, fat, thin with her.

00:06:23.400 She was always happy when she was fat.

00:06:25.240 She was much more happy version.

00:06:28.500 And what about her consumerism, right?

00:06:30.500 Her, like, extreme focus on material goods, which was, like, a central theme of her show.

00:06:36.140 And her narcissism.

00:06:38.840 You see the Oprah magazine in the grocery store, right?

00:06:42.300 Have you ever seen anyone other than Oprah on the cover?

00:06:46.900 Can you imagine?

00:06:48.440 Like, no matter what's going on in the world, she's like, no, I think it's still me.

00:06:51.680 Back to me.

00:06:54.120 They really want to see me.

00:06:57.220 In any event, I really think it's time to sort of reevaluate some of these heroes that we've been celebrating.

00:07:02.400 We celebrate celebrity culture in our news.

00:07:05.140 Why would we be celebrating those women?

00:07:07.440 We've been celebrating Oprah for far too long.

00:07:09.400 It was wonderful to see her go down on the election with her endorsement of Harris.

00:07:13.980 And that absurd interview she did with her.

00:07:16.320 Kamala Harris!

00:07:17.220 I felt like every man who's ever had a nagging wife, like, oh, my God.

00:07:27.160 Get me out of here.

00:07:29.460 And what they've been exposed as is inauthentic, right?

00:07:32.360 So many of these leftists.

00:07:33.600 It's like we've been sold a bag of goods.

00:07:35.060 Like I said, we were sold a bag of goods on Kamala Harris.

00:07:37.900 We were sold a bag of goods on this Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:07:40.400 Black and queer, just in case you were wondering.

00:07:42.680 And what we have over on the other side, Team Sanity, is the most authentic individual in the world in President Donald J. Trump.

00:07:55.040 That's what makes it so easy to connect with him.

00:07:58.880 You know, you've heard me probably say on the show before, my favorite Trump clip ever is when he's in that deposition.

00:08:04.180 E. Jean Carroll's lawyer is cross-examining him.

00:08:06.720 And she's, like, asking about the locker room talk, the Access Hollywood tape.

00:08:11.180 And she's like, did you say that you can just grab women by the, you know what, and they let you do it, and you're a celebrity?

00:08:17.160 He's like, yes.

00:08:19.060 And she's like, why did you say that?

00:08:20.860 And he's like, well, because it's true.

00:08:24.660 And it's been true for thousands of years, he said, unfortunately, or fortunately.

00:08:37.680 And the left still looks at these moments and says, oh, my God, that's going to do it.

00:08:42.000 That's the end of Trump.

00:08:43.280 And everybody on our side now knows that's only going to make us love him even more.

00:08:48.020 Whether you agree with him, you don't agree, it's irrelevant.

00:08:49.940 It's you love his humor and his authenticity, and that is one of the many reasons we are all, I think,

00:08:54.480 feeling a lot more optimistic about where our country is going in this time of our Lord, 2025.

00:09:01.240 So, okay, we'll talk a lot about all these people tonight, but for right now, I want to talk to you

00:09:05.280 because I never get to talk to you guys.

00:09:06.960 I would love to hear what's on your mind.

00:09:08.780 We have some people in line.

00:09:10.000 We'll do a little Q&A, and then we'll bring out our amazing cast of guests.

00:09:13.400 Thank you all for lining up.

00:09:17.240 Love your shirt.

00:09:18.780 Thank you.

00:09:19.940 Okay, so with both parties divided over the deep state, what the deep state really is,

00:09:27.660 from conspiracy theory to real concerns about entrenched power,

00:09:32.120 do you think we'll see true government or media transparency and accountability under Trump's term?

00:09:37.880 And what would it take, and how can we get young people involved?

00:09:41.880 True government, sure.

00:09:42.800 We're going to see true government.

00:09:43.840 We're seeing a whole bunch of true government right now.

00:09:45.740 We're seeing more transparency in government than I've ever seen in my lifetime.

00:09:48.720 Can you believe how many times Trump goes to the mics on a weekly basis?

00:09:53.520 And you've got Kareem Jean-Pierre going out there trying to say, oh, Joe Biden did speak to the people.

00:09:57.800 He was basically the same as Trump.

00:09:59.400 Oh, my God.

00:09:59.940 The reporters in the White House press corps are complaining they can't sleep when they go on overseas trips with Trump because he's constantly awake.

00:10:07.660 They're terrified to fall asleep because the 79-year-old guy up front is definitely going to want to talk to them.

00:10:12.360 So we have a lot of transparency now.

00:10:15.740 And the media accountability, you're seeing it.

00:10:17.820 They're dying a slow and painful death in the cable channels and the broadcast channels.

00:10:22.420 And it was self-inflicted.

00:10:25.740 It's a beautiful thing.

00:10:27.160 And for young people, you're doing it.

00:10:29.520 That shirt freedom is an honor to Charlie Kirk and to Turning Point.

00:10:32.940 That organization is going to save the youth of America and America itself.

00:10:38.140 But spread the good word because they need helpers.

00:10:41.720 Thank you.

00:10:42.320 Howdy.

00:10:47.240 My name is Benjamin Schrader from Austin, Texas.

00:10:50.100 And I wanted to ask you about political violence.

00:10:53.480 I saw it firsthand in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:10:56.200 Do you think if we beat the Democrats in the gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia that maybe they'll pull back on their rhetoric of violence and division?

00:11:08.260 Thank you.

00:11:08.760 Do you guys think that?

00:11:09.540 No, I don't think so either.

00:11:13.800 I really think the only way forward, I mean, the true answer to stopping the political violence is we need more faith in our lives.

00:11:22.300 They need to find faith again.

00:11:25.500 You know, I really think, like, our side of the aisle has found faith and there's been a renewal in it and a resurgence in it.

00:11:31.080 But we weren't really the ones who needed it to begin with.

00:11:34.200 The left needs to find faith again and not in their weird cult of wokeness.

00:11:40.480 But, and skin color, you know, all of it.

00:11:42.420 The Karine Jean-Pierre thing is a joke, but it's also real.

00:11:44.800 Like, her side of the aisle really does value those things.

00:11:48.680 They need to find God.

00:11:50.060 They need to find a true religion and something higher than themselves to connect to.

00:11:54.660 Which is kind of what stops us all from behaving badly.

00:11:58.540 You know, that sense of moral responsibility and sin and consequences and living a faith-driven life.

00:12:05.040 So that's the real answer.

00:12:06.420 But I will say what we can do here, in addition to trying to spread that, is we can speak up.

00:12:12.380 That's what I've been saying, you know, all along.

00:12:14.080 The more we speak up about our honest, good faith opinions on these very dicey issues, the more ubiquitous our messaging becomes and the more they will have to realize they can't get rid of all of us.

00:12:26.580 You know, and what's happening in the wake of Charlie's death with the turning point, resurgence, 122,000 chapters versus only 2,000 when he was alive, that sends a message too.

00:12:37.520 You know, God rest Charlie.

00:12:39.480 But his legacy is stronger than ever.

00:12:41.820 Thank you.

00:12:45.740 Hey, Megan.

00:12:46.520 My name is David Hillock.

00:12:47.720 I'm here with my wife tonight.

00:12:49.620 From her perspective, you're the other woman in my life.

00:12:52.580 That's not true.

00:12:54.480 I'm honored.

00:12:55.480 But I want to talk to you a little bit about language.

00:12:58.180 I serve in the United States Navy.

00:13:00.660 I don't.

00:13:01.360 Thank you, sir.

00:13:04.800 I don't curse like a sailor.

00:13:07.220 And with the decline in our language over the last 30 years or so, I would love to see us be an example of the youth of today by talking without cursing.

00:13:24.320 You're not the first to raise that with me.

00:13:26.480 But I would say, because I do read all the emails, I have a general understanding that while maybe 15% of the audience feels that way, 85% are with me.

00:13:37.220 I can't help it.

00:13:43.540 I practiced law for 10 years.

00:13:45.200 I come by it honestly.

00:13:46.800 Plus, my Nana, who died at 101, she swore like a sailor.

00:13:50.320 So, I mean, it's like it's an homage, you could argue.

00:13:54.600 Hi there.

00:13:56.060 Hi.

00:13:56.940 I'm a really big fan of yours.

00:13:58.260 Thank you so much for coming to Fort Worth.

00:14:00.020 We're so happy to have you here.

00:14:01.180 Thank you.

00:14:01.620 And I just want to say I was a huge, am still, a huge fan of Charlie's.

00:14:08.960 My husband and I have been probably listening to his podcast ever since it started, probably back in about 2000 and, sorry, 2020, 2021.

00:14:16.840 And I just loved when you guest hosted his show.

00:14:20.980 Thank you.

00:14:21.300 It was just incredible.

00:14:22.060 It was devastating to us, obviously.

00:14:25.800 There was a beautiful vigil here, here in Fort Worth, and my husband and our daughter and I all went to it.

00:14:32.740 But almost as disheartening as his passing, which was just, I mean, devastating, and was the reaction to the people on the left.

00:14:40.400 I mean, the way that they've been celebrating it and mocking it and using it as kind of a prop in their protests.

00:14:45.520 And that's not something I've ever seen on the right.

00:14:48.780 I mean, I could be wrong, so I stand corrected.

00:14:51.180 But, like, I could never imagine, like, mocking someone on the left, no matter who they are, because that just sounds disgusting to me.

00:14:58.660 And I just wonder what you think maybe is behind that, the left's, their behavior.

00:15:03.400 Because I've never seen, like, a murder victim, which is what Charlie is, treated like this.

00:15:07.960 It's a very good question.

00:15:09.160 I do think, in part, I referenced it a moment ago, they've pushed faith out of the public square and out of their lives.

00:15:16.060 And they've replaced it with a false god called wokeness, which is very dangerous and pernicious and sinful, and it's leading them astray.

00:15:23.480 I think there are multiple factors.

00:15:25.180 I think our isolation, our, you know, internet dependency, our iPhone dependency, the fact that we don't see each other in real life anymore,

00:15:33.340 all of this is driving people apart and to feel extremely lonely.

00:15:37.740 But I also think there's another factor.

00:15:41.400 And it's a bit of a silver lining, but it's coming at a cost.

00:15:44.360 And that is, the left doesn't control every cultural institution anymore.

00:15:49.360 And they're in a bit of a panic.

00:15:50.960 In the same way you get the dog in the corner and he starts to lash out, they're starting to feel their control slip away.

00:15:58.260 In media, in corporate America, in the halls of power when it comes to politics.

00:16:03.140 And they're in a bit of a panic.

00:16:05.980 You know, that we've changed the messaging on the trans issue.

00:16:08.420 We've changed the message on race that they completely had total control over back in 2020, 2021.

00:16:14.200 And some found that extremely threatening.

00:16:17.120 And poor Charlie was in one of the most dangerous places you can go right now, which was a college campus,

00:16:21.340 saying all the true things, which was very heroic of him and brave.

00:16:25.280 But I do think those are some of the things, and they do need to be addressed.

00:16:29.440 Thank you.

00:16:36.020 Hello.

00:16:37.140 Hi.

00:16:37.760 Hi.

00:16:38.500 I'm here with my dad.

00:16:39.780 We are just, we talk about you every day.

00:16:42.640 I just have to say.

00:16:43.800 Thank you.

00:16:44.260 So, I'm a 24-year-old Christian, conservative here.

00:16:49.980 And, yes, right on.

00:16:52.500 So, I see on TikTok, and my friends repost things that say, well, I'm liberal because I'm Catholic.

00:16:59.100 I'm liberal because I'm Christian.

00:17:01.340 And I know that you are a Catholic.

00:17:03.840 And I just want to know your response if your friend said that to you.

00:17:08.320 You know, well, I'm a liberal.

00:17:09.580 I'm a leftist.

00:17:10.300 I'm a progressive because I'm Catholic.

00:17:11.860 And the common phrase is, well, love your neighbor.

00:17:15.860 And so, and I think this mainly pertains to immigration.

00:17:18.900 But what is your response when you hear or see something like that?

00:17:23.240 Well, I feel like they need to read their Bible again.

00:17:25.680 Yeah.

00:17:26.800 I mean, the biggest thing that the Democrat Party today is known for is its commitment to abortion on demand

00:17:31.420 all the way through the ninth month of pregnancy.

00:17:33.860 Just today in the news, there are two states, New Jersey's one of them.

00:17:37.340 I'm trying to remember what the second one is.

00:17:39.080 Colorado.

00:17:39.400 Colorado, that are bringing back abortion up to 34 weeks.

00:17:43.540 34 weeks.

00:17:45.060 I guarantee you there are some women out here listening to this right now who had their babies

00:17:48.620 at 34 weeks or earlier, preemies.

00:17:51.200 That's insane.

00:17:52.780 There is absolutely nothing faithful, godly, Catholic, Christian about that.

00:17:57.880 And it's truly like the number one most important platform position of the Democrat Party.

00:18:01.500 Now, the immigration thing, as a Catholic, I have to say, the rhetoric does sound very leftist on that issue.

00:18:08.160 And I really feel like, you know, my church and I disagree on what love thy neighbor means in that respect.

00:18:13.360 But, you know, tell it to the little girls like Jocelyn Nangare who are getting killed and murdered

00:18:19.080 after being sexually assaulted by these illegals.

00:18:21.660 There's nothing loving your neighbor about letting those people stay here so they can murder Americans.

00:18:27.420 You know, you want to wait in line and come through the right way, we're open-armed to you here in America.

00:18:31.920 We certainly have been.

00:18:33.200 But you want to sneak across that border, violate our laws, and then double down by violating other laws,

00:18:37.460 by hurting our people, you're out.

00:18:39.240 That's completely Christian.

00:18:40.660 God did believe in consequences, and so do we.

00:18:42.680 So fight the good fight on TikTok for us, would you, as a young person?

00:18:48.260 Hi there.

00:18:49.440 Hi, Megan.

00:18:50.280 My name is Laura Johnson, and I'm from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:18:54.260 And in 2024, you were on the Sean Ryan podcast, and something you said literally changed my life.

00:19:03.300 It was you have to take active steps to change your circumstances.

00:19:09.020 You can't wait around for somebody to save you.

00:19:11.420 You have to do it.

00:19:12.880 Get up and do it.

00:19:14.120 Well, this year, my mom found out that she needed a heart transplant, and in March, well, she got diagnosed in March,

00:19:21.720 and then by May, we were talking transplant.

00:19:25.060 And I had that statement replaying in my head because I had to become her advocate,

00:19:31.900 stand up against insurance, doctors, and drive to Dallas with no appointment,

00:19:36.800 and just go and have her seen.

00:19:38.500 Anyway, how do you instill in your children, or what would be the advice, to be able to recognize

00:19:47.300 when you trust somebody that's higher educated than you are, or when you need to take those steps?

00:19:55.280 Well, thank you for telling me that story.

00:19:57.340 That's so meaningful to me, and I hope your mom's okay.

00:20:00.740 The way we teach that in our children is we require them to reflect on pretty much everything.

00:20:11.200 So we'll ask them how they did it on a test, not because we really want them to get straight A's,

00:20:16.260 but because if they did poorly, the very next question we ask them is, so what did you learn from that?

00:20:22.300 What was your takeaway?

00:20:23.840 Why did you do so poorly?

00:20:25.660 You know, it's because you didn't care, you didn't understand it, you didn't study, you're not into this class.

00:20:30.300 That's all interesting.

00:20:31.640 Why are you not into it?

00:20:32.760 Maybe you don't like this kind of class.

00:20:34.300 Maybe this is telling you about the future you.

00:20:37.100 Or maybe you do like it, and you just kind of phoned it in because you wanted to do something else.

00:20:41.140 All right, well, that's telling you something that you might need to address.

00:20:44.300 But we just always encourage them to be reflective about why they're making the decisions they're making.

00:20:48.460 And I think that's a very good skill to arm yourself with, too, right?

00:20:52.920 Because you can't always know.

00:20:54.760 But it does, like, if you're always questioning, always questioning, I feel like that does put you in a better position when they try to force a vaccine on you, for example, to say,

00:21:02.680 I'm in the habit of questioning, and I'm going to seek out multiple opinions on this, and I'm not just going to defer to experts.

00:21:10.700 And as far as, like, no one's coming to save you, I mean, that is one of my biggest mantras in life.

00:21:14.700 You know, whatever you want to change, you have to do it, just you, not the next person.

00:21:19.800 No one is coming to save you.

00:21:21.280 You want to change your life, you're totally empowered to do it, and the only thing stopping you is you.

00:21:25.440 Tomorrow, you could be a different person.

00:21:27.560 Literally tonight, before you leave here tonight, you could be a totally different person.

00:21:31.200 It's all in your head and in the decisions you'll make from this point forward.

00:21:35.240 Thank you.

00:21:38.560 Hi.

00:21:39.240 So, my name is Mercy, and I'm 13.

00:21:42.220 And after Charlie got shot, like, I started to kind of wonder, like, what it was going to be like when I grow up and, like, go to college and stuff.

00:21:52.660 Like, would I be safe and stuff?

00:21:54.800 And so, like, with your kids and stuff, like, what are your point, like, what's your point of view on that?

00:22:00.420 And, like, do you have any, like, tips to kind of not worry about that and stuff?

00:22:04.260 Yes, sweetheart.

00:22:04.900 Thank you, Marcy.

00:22:05.480 I appreciate the question very much.

00:22:07.780 And I know you're not alone in feeling that as a young person or for the parents out there of young people.

00:22:16.040 What happened to Charlie was absolutely horrific.

00:22:19.300 But the truth is you have a better chance of being hit by lightning than of having that happen to you.

00:22:26.140 You know, there are far too many mass shootings in America, but they are extremely rare when you look at the number of people who live here.

00:22:33.900 You know, we've got 330 million people in America, then the media will play up these events, and the Charlie one was unavoidably covered by everybody.

00:22:42.260 But you still have to keep in mind, like, if we covered every single lightning strike that happens in every town across America, you'd be absolutely terrified of lightning.

00:22:48.600 But the odds of you getting struck by it are so slim that it's a saying.

00:22:51.500 Oh, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning.

00:22:53.200 So the odds are you're going to make it through your life without ever getting eaten by a shark in the ocean, without ever, God forbid, going down on an airplane, and without ever even being anywhere close to a mass shooting, never mind a targeted one that involves you.

00:23:05.940 You just have to remember that.

00:23:07.180 So fear is a natural reaction to something like this, but just keep perspective on it.

00:23:11.820 And I'll tell you, just as somebody who does have some fear of flying, so many people will tell you things to try to make you feel better about flying.

00:23:17.480 And the only thing I've ever heard, of all the stats they give you, and maybe it'll help some of you who are afraid of flying, is you have a better chance of getting killed by a donkey than you do of going down in a plane.

00:23:30.000 Okay.

00:23:31.180 I feel better.

00:23:32.940 So you remember that.

00:23:34.060 Lean into the statistics.

00:23:35.540 Thank you, Marcy.

00:23:36.300 God bless.

00:23:37.040 All right, we'll take a couple more, and then we've got to get this thing started.

00:23:40.580 Hi, Megan.

00:23:41.560 Hi there.

00:23:41.860 So we are trying to start a turning point chapter at Weatherford College.

00:23:46.620 Great.

00:23:47.880 Yes.

00:23:52.180 And we have lost a lot of, we haven't actually had any support from the on-campus ministries, like the college ministries.

00:24:01.120 Shocked.

00:24:01.880 And so you got any advice for us for that?

00:24:05.480 Yeah.

00:24:06.440 Keep trying.

00:24:07.500 Do not take no for an answer.

00:24:09.060 Do not take no for an answer.

00:24:11.000 And by the way, Turning Point has this thing.

00:24:13.080 If, you know, in some schools you actually can't do it because of some charter or bylaw or whatever they have, Turning Point has a separate thing that I can't remember what they call it.

00:24:22.580 It's like their partners or something like that.

00:24:24.080 But there's another way around it.

00:24:25.480 Even if the school says you're not allowed to do that on our campus, there's like a third lily pad that you can jump onto where you're still connected to Turning Point.

00:24:33.520 All the people who wanted to join Turning Point can join this.

00:24:36.660 In other words, they can't stop you.

00:24:38.400 So don't, don't take no for an answer.

00:24:42.000 It's too important.

00:24:43.160 And Turning Point truly is part of the integral answer to our problem right now.

00:24:48.100 And the only, only way to have our say on the assassin and those who cheered Charlie's murder is to make Turning Point bigger and more powerful than it was ever going to be.

00:25:01.140 So do not take no for an answer.

00:25:03.320 Those people saying no to you didn't understand Turning Point or Charlie.

00:25:07.360 Go ahead, sir.

00:25:08.400 I, I have to say I'm a little disappointed.

00:25:12.340 My wife said we were coming to see Carrie Underwood.

00:25:18.820 We love you.

00:25:20.100 Thank you.

00:25:21.640 As an enlisted Marine, I have to disagree with my Navy brother.

00:25:25.620 I love.

00:25:27.140 Thank you.

00:25:27.900 Your visceral honesty.

00:25:31.280 It's got to come naturally.

00:25:34.620 I'm a first generation American.

00:25:36.180 I came here because I love America.

00:25:37.800 I listened to the Marine Corps.

00:25:38.840 I became a citizen.

00:25:39.900 Thank you.

00:25:41.060 But I think we can.

00:25:42.940 Yes.

00:25:44.620 I think we can all agree.

00:25:46.060 That immigrants don't commit crimes at the same rate as Americans because we wanted to come here because we love America.

00:25:54.020 But I think in 2020, things changed.

00:25:59.680 It changed a lot.

00:26:01.560 And whenever conservatives are trying to say, hey, this is a problem.

00:26:08.220 Illegal immigrants, you brought up Jocelyn Nongeri.

00:26:12.680 Illegal immigrants are killing people.

00:26:14.340 They're raping people.

00:26:15.160 And that's a problem.

00:26:18.520 The left is always trying to say, well, studies show.

00:26:22.120 In other words, studies prove that immigrants are committing crimes at a lower rate than Americans.

00:26:28.960 Have you looked at those studies?

00:26:31.640 Do you know the last year that they took data for those studies?

00:26:36.140 I don't.

00:26:37.240 And I don't care.

00:26:38.740 2020.

00:26:39.780 I mean, my bottom line in response to that has been, and this entire time that we've been arguing over it, the last five years and beyond, we have to take the Americans.

00:26:49.320 We're stuck with them.

00:26:50.460 I agree.

00:26:50.840 Those are our losers.

00:26:52.560 We don't have to take losers from another country.

00:26:55.680 I mean, good Lord, let Venezuelans be Venezuela's problem.

00:26:59.640 So I totally reject that.

00:27:01.260 Bill Maher and I got into this.

00:27:03.260 And it was like, there's plenty of homegrown imbeciles right here in the United States of America.

00:27:10.940 That's why our prisons are overflowing and our mental institutions, the ones that are still here, are overflowing.

00:27:15.480 So, yeah, I have zero tolerance for that.

00:27:17.180 And by the way, I don't even need to prove that this person has committed an extra crime.

00:27:20.340 You crossed the border illegally, get out.

00:27:22.700 Had it.

00:27:25.900 Thank you.

00:27:26.780 And thank you for your service.

00:27:27.780 All right, we've got to wrap it up because we've got to get this party started with our guests backstage.

00:27:31.080 I know you're going to love them.

00:27:32.420 I love tonight's lineup.

00:27:34.260 You guys know we're doing Link Lauren, we're doing Mark Halperin, and we're doing Glenn Beck.

00:27:39.660 So here's what we're going to do.

00:27:40.800 We've got a little tiny little sizzle reel, which I'm going to show you in one second.

00:27:44.620 But let me just give you one minute on Link Lauren, okay?

00:27:47.220 Link came out of nowhere.

00:27:49.220 He's from Dallas.

00:27:50.800 Yeah, he's a hometown boy.

00:27:52.700 And Link started doing social media commentary and just had a special way of, like, getting up and down on these subjects that grabbed the attention of tons of social media fans.

00:28:05.140 And then the next thing you knew, RFKJ's campaign found him.

00:28:07.980 And in about two minutes, he became a senior campaign advisor to a presidential candidate with a last name Kennedy.

00:28:16.320 That, of course, didn't wind up going all the way to the end, but Link became a star.

00:28:20.040 And shortly after that, we picked him up for our MK Media Podcast Network, and he now hosts Spot On with Link Lauren, which is crushing it.

00:28:29.200 And Link's regularly at the White House asking President Trump the best questions.

00:28:33.380 It's to the point where every time he asks one, Trump says, I like this guy.

00:28:36.420 I have no idea who the hell that is, but I love this guy.

00:28:40.100 And we all feel that way about Link.

00:28:41.800 Check this out.

00:28:42.340 Thank you.

00:29:12.340 FirstLiberty.org slash Megan.

00:29:14.700 That's FirstLiberty.org slash Megan.

00:29:18.400 Get yours today.

00:29:19.360 FirstLiberty.org slash Megan.

00:29:21.320 Paid for by First Liberty Institute.

00:29:23.300 Identity politics is so passe.

00:29:30.360 People say, because of how you are, you should think a certain way, vote a certain way, you should do this.

00:29:35.120 Hell no, I'm going to vote for my best interest and do what I want.

00:29:37.900 And this is why Trump won in a historic landslide, because he said enough is enough with the woke nonsense.

00:29:44.540 The thing with Meghan Markle is, it was like watching a woman in an insane asylum, but they're letting her kind of do arts and crafts where she can't hurt herself.

00:29:51.380 AOC is not excellent.

00:29:52.740 She's not a genius.

00:29:53.840 Ted Kennedy didn't just hire her years ago to be his intern because she was so brilliant.

00:29:57.840 She has big breasts, cute face.

00:29:59.460 She's Latina.

00:30:00.180 She has no accomplishments.

00:30:01.640 Jill Biden.

00:30:02.160 She is going to go down as one of the most unlikable women in politics.

00:30:06.360 She is like the Regina George of Washington, D.C.

00:30:09.400 This is like senior citizen mean girls.

00:30:11.500 People say, you're gay, you should support kids transitioning.

00:30:14.440 I'm gay, not brain dead.

00:30:16.020 I have common sense.

00:30:17.060 These No Kings protests are literally therapy sessions for deranged liberals with Trump derangement syndrome.

00:30:21.960 And the way some of these women look, they should call this no shower, no deodorant, no razor.

00:30:26.780 Some of these women, Bush is back in office, okay?

00:30:29.120 It's looking a little jungle boogie, not women.

00:30:32.160 Lick Lauren, everyone.

00:30:35.100 Woo-hoo!

00:30:41.940 Hi, thank you for having me.

00:30:43.680 Great to have you.

00:30:47.520 So exciting.

00:30:49.100 I'm so excited.

00:30:50.780 How are we doing tonight, Dallas Forburs?

00:30:57.120 I have to say, I'm so humbled that you, Megan, and all of these people showed up.

00:31:02.160 Thank you for having me tonight.

00:31:03.080 Thank you so much.

00:31:04.940 It is all about you.

00:31:06.260 You are right.

00:31:06.980 I also am not sure how to sit you guys.

00:31:09.600 For weeks, I've been wondering, okay, do I do the J.D. Vance sort of manspread?

00:31:13.820 Do I do the Barack Obama, Gavin Newsom kind of beta meal?

00:31:17.460 Let's see.

00:31:17.480 I'm going to look at it on the...

00:31:18.480 I like the Barack Obama.

00:31:20.100 Let me see the manspread.

00:31:21.480 The manspread.

00:31:22.300 I think too much.

00:31:23.540 It's too much.

00:31:24.080 It's just Sharon Stone and Basic Instinct.

00:31:26.080 So I think I'll do kind of in between tonight.

00:31:29.620 Completely.

00:31:30.400 Mm-hmm.

00:31:30.780 Now, did you hear my comments on J.Lo?

00:31:33.860 Oh, on J.Lo, how she can't be loved.

00:31:35.900 She's unlovable.

00:31:36.560 We actually have the soundbite.

00:31:37.640 I'm going to let you see it.

00:31:38.800 And that's where we're going to kick it off.

00:31:39.840 Here it is.

00:31:40.240 Here's J.Lo talking to Howard Stern.

00:31:42.100 Do you think you've truly been loved?

00:31:45.120 No.

00:31:45.880 No.

00:31:46.320 And do you think you really have experienced loving someone?

00:31:49.220 Yes.

00:31:49.780 You have?

00:31:50.420 Yeah.

00:31:50.600 And when you can't get that love back...

00:31:52.960 What I learned, it's not that I'm not lovable.

00:31:56.020 It's that they're not capable.

00:31:58.100 They can't love.

00:31:59.080 They don't have it in them.

00:32:00.460 They need to appreciate the little person inside of them.

00:32:02.880 They have little to give.

00:32:03.860 They need to love them.

00:32:04.180 Yeah.

00:32:04.500 You've been in relationship with you.

00:32:05.360 And they gave me what they had.

00:32:06.940 Right, but it's not enough.

00:32:07.900 They gave me all of it.

00:32:08.660 Every time.

00:32:09.780 But it's this much.

00:32:10.700 All the rings.

00:32:11.640 All the things I could ever want.

00:32:13.060 Right.

00:32:13.720 They tried to give me the houses, the rings, the marriage.

00:32:16.080 All of it.

00:32:17.280 But...

00:32:17.880 They didn't love you.

00:32:18.880 They didn't.

00:32:19.560 And didn't know you.

00:32:20.600 And I didn't love myself.

00:32:24.780 Oh, the acting.

00:32:26.820 The drama.

00:32:28.180 I have to say, I know Howard has gone very woke, but that was a stroke of genius because

00:32:32.020 he knows what a fool she sounds like there.

00:32:33.960 He's walking her right into it.

00:32:35.500 He's done a million of these celebrity interviews.

00:32:37.500 Only she thinks he's sincere and is actually searching to understand her love history.

00:32:41.860 And the nerve, the nerve of this woman to say, none of them was capable of actually

00:32:46.580 loving me.

00:32:47.000 Well, she reminds me of that friend who always blames everyone else for their problems.

00:32:50.780 Like, you always have a problem with someone else.

00:32:52.780 You might be the problem, Jennifer Lopez.

00:32:55.140 And let's be honest.

00:32:56.060 She's been passed around like a hot potato for years.

00:32:59.660 Okay.

00:33:00.000 She's been engaged and married.

00:33:02.120 Then she gets engaged to the same guy.

00:33:03.740 I mean, they literally call her Jenny from the block.

00:33:05.940 I don't think that's a compliment.

00:33:07.900 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:09.120 Double entendre.

00:33:09.480 So I think she's the problem.

00:33:10.600 She might be the issue.

00:33:11.600 All right.

00:33:11.840 I got another one for you.

00:33:12.940 Okay.

00:33:14.080 Kim Kardashian is in the news.

00:33:16.080 Forgive me.

00:33:16.620 I try not to ever say her name.

00:33:18.680 But she's in the news because she came out on the show with an admission that she has

00:33:24.900 a brain aneurysm.

00:33:27.460 And it's a sympathy ploy.

00:33:29.020 Like, oh my God, I have a brain aneurysm.

00:33:31.240 You know, something's going to happen to me.

00:33:32.400 I'm so worried.

00:33:33.320 Well, it turns out they taped this episode long before it actually hit air.

00:33:38.660 And from the time she tried to get everybody worked up on her new victimhood status, because

00:33:43.020 we know this is such a currency, she showed up in New York City for the launch of her Skims

00:33:48.900 partnership with Nike.

00:33:50.720 She went to that fashion show overseas where she had pantyhose all over her face.

00:33:55.000 She's been on virtually every red carpet known to man.

00:33:57.820 She's been doing talk shows.

00:33:58.880 She's been doing comedy shows.

00:34:00.200 There's really no stopping her from her public appearances.

00:34:03.700 And as it turns out, the brain aneurysm is like some teeny tiny little vein thing that

00:34:08.420 virtually everybody has.

00:34:09.860 And it's really not a big deal.

00:34:10.820 It just needs to be monitored from time to time.

00:34:12.720 She just played it up because she, like so many of these celebrities, wants to lean

00:34:16.520 into victimhood status.

00:34:17.800 So your thoughts on whether we should be moved by Kim's story?

00:34:21.420 I always had a brain aneurysm watching when she was selling the Merkins last week, when

00:34:25.960 she was selling those fake Bush panties.

00:34:28.300 I'm like, oh, I'm too gay for this.

00:34:30.020 With the fur?

00:34:30.300 Yeah, with the fur.

00:34:31.500 Yeah.

00:34:31.660 I will say she did have like a red curly one for little orphan Annie.

00:34:35.300 I thought that was generous.

00:34:36.560 She had a red one for Lindsay Lohan.

00:34:37.880 I thought that was nice.

00:34:38.740 But yeah, no, Kim Kardashian.

00:34:40.100 I mean, I have to say, having grown up in the 70s, I don't remember it ever going that

00:34:42.980 far.

00:34:43.220 I said, Bush is back in office, honey, with that.

00:34:47.120 Anheuser-Busch, Jenna Bush, Hager.

00:34:49.440 Okay, there was a lot of Bush going on.

00:34:52.040 So no, I don't give a shit about Kim Kardashian.

00:34:54.540 I think, honestly, Kim Kardashian, you guys, she has built a career and made billions of

00:35:02.940 dollars off of giving women body dysmorphia.

00:35:05.780 When Kim came into the game, everybody had to get a big ass.

00:35:08.920 So girls went out there and they put themselves in harmful situations to get big asses.

00:35:13.220 They went to foreign countries.

00:35:14.400 They got injections.

00:35:15.580 Now all the Kardashians are on Ozempic.

00:35:17.620 What are those girls supposed to do from around the way who went and got big asses?

00:35:21.580 Yes.

00:35:21.840 So yeah, they've just built this career off of giving women body dysmorphia and then

00:35:25.320 with the fake Bush panties.

00:35:27.060 So you spend millions of dollars on laser hair removal to just drop a merkin?

00:35:33.060 That's a scam right there.

00:35:34.960 That's a scam.

00:35:36.380 And a scandal, really.

00:35:37.880 It's true.

00:35:39.040 Now she's got sheets over her head like freaking Islam or something.

00:35:42.500 I don't know what's going on with her.

00:35:43.700 Oh, it's all the rage in New York City.

00:35:46.620 Let's talk about Michelle Obama.

00:35:50.220 Michelle Obama just...

00:35:53.960 I know you're all watching her podcast.

00:35:56.800 You're the ones.

00:35:59.200 Michelle Obama wants you to feel very sorry for her because it's very hard being Michelle

00:36:04.160 Obama.

00:36:04.520 Everybody wants a piece of Michelle.

00:36:07.780 It's very hard to be so famous.

00:36:09.700 Michael.

00:36:11.100 Big Mike.

00:36:12.360 That's what they're saying.

00:36:14.000 I will say she might have more testosterone than me, that bitch, honestly.

00:36:19.320 Honestly, she might be packing more than me, that whore.

00:36:21.720 I can't stand her.

00:36:25.600 Okay.

00:36:26.140 So she's upset because it's hard to be so famous.

00:36:29.240 And she's upset because it was very expensive to live in the White House.

00:36:34.240 They had to pay for their own food.

00:36:35.720 Who has to pay for their own food?

00:36:37.820 What kind of world is this?

00:36:39.040 And just as soon as you start working up your sympathy glands for Michelle Obama, you see

00:36:44.380 her just recently out on Steven Spielberg's yacht, cruising around the Mediterranean while

00:36:52.900 she literally wants you to feel sorry for her.

00:36:55.280 So do you?

00:36:56.680 No.

00:36:57.240 Do I feel sorry for Michelle Obama?

00:36:59.060 Hell no.

00:36:59.740 I have this place where I send women I call the unbearables, the insufferables.

00:37:04.000 I send them in my mind to a place called Bitch Island.

00:37:06.780 Okay, I want to send Michelle Obama to Bitch Island, Meghan Markle, Kathy Griffin.

00:37:12.420 That's where I send them in my mind.

00:37:14.220 The women of The View.

00:37:15.320 Rosie.

00:37:15.960 Rosie.

00:37:16.580 They could host the show on Bitch Island.

00:37:18.380 But Michelle Obama, right?

00:37:20.340 She comes from humble beginnings.

00:37:22.360 And it's always the people who say they came from humble beginnings that forget so quickly.

00:37:26.700 Like she says she grew up on the south side of Chicago.

00:37:29.100 She's a round-the-way girl.

00:37:30.300 She's Michelle from the block.

00:37:31.600 She's Michelle from the block.

00:37:32.480 But then she's like, can you believe I had to pay for my own caviar in the White House?

00:37:38.300 And I'm like, what?

00:37:39.160 People are starving.

00:37:40.140 We have an invasion at the border.

00:37:41.500 I can't even take her seriously, Michelle Obama.

00:37:43.740 But it's always this victim card.

00:37:45.460 And I think on the left, these Democratic elites have realized playing the victim card

00:37:49.880 is profitable.

00:37:50.780 It gets you views.

00:37:51.760 It gets people tuning in.

00:37:52.880 But we're just all tired of it.

00:37:54.200 We're so tired of it.

00:37:55.160 So is Katie Porter on Bitch Island?

00:38:00.800 No, I am Katie Porter's number one fan.

00:38:03.340 Now, I need her to do more interviews with the Helga Oktoberfest haircut.

00:38:08.540 I need Katie Porter.

00:38:09.420 Look, I'm not in a position to opine on hair.

00:38:12.240 I get it.

00:38:12.560 But listen, Katie Porter, that woman, she looks like those women in the circus who could

00:38:16.960 like lift 500 pounds, Katie Porter.

00:38:19.700 He's not wrong.

00:38:20.640 Right.

00:38:21.040 So I need Katie Porter out there more.

00:38:22.740 I'm really into her.

00:38:23.600 Like, the more interviews, the better with Katie Porter.

00:38:25.940 Right?

00:38:26.960 100%.

00:38:27.320 Keep her talking like Kamala Harris.

00:38:29.360 Keep her on the road every time she opens her mouth.

00:38:31.420 It's a gift.

00:38:32.160 It's a gift to us.

00:38:34.520 She might.

00:38:35.400 We have news about that.

00:38:36.160 We'll talk about it in a minute with Mark Halpern on Kamala Harris.

00:38:38.160 Stand by.

00:38:39.000 So yeah, I love Katie Porter because I, like, the funny thing for me in watching all those

00:38:43.320 clips is I understood her anger.

00:38:45.500 Like, when the staffer got in the back of the shot, you know, it was like, get out of the

00:38:48.460 fucking shot.

00:38:49.280 It was like, the person was in the shot.

00:38:52.280 I would have been like, get, Abby, get out of there.

00:38:55.180 But I, but I would have said it lovingly, you know, harshly, but lovingly.

00:38:59.400 There's a way.

00:39:00.460 You shouldn't swear at your employees is a bad habit.

00:39:03.220 On camera.

00:39:03.660 Yeah.

00:39:03.980 And, but now the ex-husband's coming out on camera.

00:39:06.420 That's always bad.

00:39:07.380 The ex-husband's now coming out saying she's a master manipulator.

00:39:10.280 And now I'm like, all right, well, this is getting a little really interesting, but

00:39:13.200 also untoward because should we really be taking the ex-husband's word?

00:39:17.080 I do.

00:39:18.040 But should we be?

00:39:18.660 Oh God, I don't have any ex-husbands in the audience tonight, do I?

00:39:23.020 No.

00:39:23.320 I don't know if we should take his word.

00:39:24.680 I heard that she poured a scalding cauldron of potatoes on his head.

00:39:28.660 And that's when I knew I loved her.

00:39:30.120 When I poured a scalding cauldron of potatoes on her husband's head, I said, oh, this woman's

00:39:35.260 interesting.

00:39:35.880 Allegedly.

00:39:36.480 Allegedly.

00:39:36.800 Um, Kamala Harris, I hear you've been enjoying her book tour.

00:39:42.480 Is it just me or is Kamala Harris's book tour going longer than the campaign?

00:39:46.640 Like it's going longer and longer and longer.

00:39:50.020 And I have these nicknames for Kamala.

00:39:51.860 I call her Cabernet Kamala.

00:39:53.740 I call her Kamalamity.

00:39:55.720 I think the sequel.

00:39:57.980 Yeah.

00:39:58.420 I think the sequel to 107 Days should be 12 Steps, maybe.

00:40:03.700 I think Bill W. could be the co-author.

00:40:06.200 And if that offended you, call your sponsor.

00:40:09.200 You could do the foreword.

00:40:10.200 Yeah, you could do the foreword.

00:40:11.500 But yeah, no, Kamala Harris, I hope this book tour continues.

00:40:14.120 I want her to run.

00:40:15.300 And what's interesting, in this book, Kamala Harris talks about choosing her running mate.

00:40:20.060 And she says, I did not choose Pete Buttigieg because he was gay.

00:40:24.620 And I thought, okay, you don't choose Pete Buttigieg because he's gay.

00:40:28.820 But then you choose Tim Walls, the gayest man in captivity.

00:40:32.740 Okay, Tim Walls, Tim Walls, Mr. Jazz Hands.

00:40:36.680 He walks into every room like Bob Fosse.

00:40:39.140 Okay, sorry to get heated.

00:40:40.680 But Tim Walls, this man with a questionable internet search history.

00:40:44.560 Okay, I was speaking to a room of gays last week.

00:40:48.720 I was speaking to a room of gay Republicans.

00:40:50.000 Room of gays.

00:40:50.620 Yeah.

00:40:50.940 I said, who do you think has slept with more men?

00:40:53.340 Everyone in this room combined or Tim Walls?

00:40:56.100 Okay, there is something going on there.

00:40:59.220 And they said, we chose Tim Walls because he's the pinnacle of masculinity.

00:41:02.920 I said, no, Michelle Obama is in your party.

00:41:07.180 Not Tim Walls.

00:41:10.540 He could use a few more testosterone.

00:41:12.440 I mean, really, like the thing with the camo hat was too much.

00:41:14.940 When he couldn't load the gun.

00:41:16.240 I mean, you people down in Texas must have been horrified.

00:41:19.160 We were down in Texas, Doug and I, about a couple years ago with a bunch of friends.

00:41:22.180 And we were going to go motorbike riding, like dirt bike riding in the woods.

00:41:26.460 It was like midnight.

00:41:27.440 It was dark.

00:41:28.020 We were going up to the woods.

00:41:29.100 There were like 15 of us on these motorbikes.

00:41:31.260 And it was summer.

00:41:32.160 So everybody had on shorts and a t-shirt.

00:41:34.120 And our host looked around and he says, is anybody carrying?

00:41:37.080 I'm like, carrying?

00:41:37.960 We're wearing like tiny shirts and shirts.

00:41:39.820 Literally every man was like, I am, I am, I am, I am.

00:41:43.000 Like, I'm in Texas.

00:41:44.620 I'm not in New York anymore.

00:41:45.900 Yeah, I think some of my...

00:41:48.900 It never felt so safe in my life.

00:41:52.400 If anyone tries to F with us tonight, we got some Texas patriots in the audience.

00:41:57.180 I think we're good.

00:41:58.400 I think we're good.

00:41:59.280 God bless Texas.

00:42:00.500 Don't mess with it.

00:42:01.380 Although they are trying to mess with it.

00:42:02.860 What's with Austin?

00:42:04.320 Oh.

00:42:05.680 Yeah.

00:42:06.560 Yeah.

00:42:08.360 I don't get it.

00:42:09.460 I see my MAGA ladies on the front row right here.

00:42:12.300 I got my Trump ladies.

00:42:13.220 Now, who did you vote for in the Trump hat?

00:42:15.900 I love it.

00:42:17.440 I mean, we did get Jasmine Crockett.

00:42:20.020 Oh!

00:42:21.360 Y'all heard of this woman, Jasmine Crockett?

00:42:24.240 Okay.

00:42:26.000 Jasmine Crockett, to me, is just appealing to the lowest common denominator at this point.

00:42:31.300 I mean, she's become one of the most uncouth and articulate women in politics.

00:42:35.400 And it's all a caricature.

00:42:36.780 It's all a facade with Jasmine Crockett.

00:42:39.700 When you look up her background, right?

00:42:40.980 She grew up in St. Louis.

00:42:41.900 She went to private school.

00:42:43.440 She says she passed the bar exam.

00:42:45.800 I don't know if she was sitting at a bar or if she actually passed the bar exam.

00:42:49.900 Would like to see proof.

00:42:50.720 Yeah.

00:42:51.060 She says she's an attorney, Jasmine Crockett.

00:42:53.520 You pull up these old videos of her.

00:42:55.340 She's talking like Eliza Doolittle or Queen Elizabeth.

00:42:57.960 She's like, how do you do?

00:42:59.400 Would you like crumpets and scones?

00:43:01.500 You look up Jasmine Crockett now.

00:43:03.100 She's like, this mofo crock-a-lack-a-check-a-book-a-pick-a-pick-a-pick-a-pick-a-pick-a-pick-a.

00:43:07.180 What the hell happened to Jasmine Crockett?

00:43:09.700 This is identity theft, okay?

00:43:11.460 It's identity theft.

00:43:12.560 But the Democrats, okay, this is why I can't stand the Democrats.

00:43:15.320 We got some characters on the right.

00:43:17.000 We love Trump.

00:43:17.760 We've got big personalities.

00:43:18.800 But the Democrats are a bunch of overgrown theater kids.

00:43:22.300 They don't want to work.

00:43:23.360 They want to twerk and post dancing videos and sing.

00:43:26.500 And the Democrats in D.C., okay, they're always breaking into song on the Capitol steps.

00:43:31.040 They're running and dancing.

00:43:32.380 They remind me of that show Glee.

00:43:34.020 Remember that show Glee where they're running and singing and dancing and there's no plot?

00:43:37.440 That is the Democrat Party today.

00:43:38.740 The Rapid Response Choir.

00:43:40.340 Yes, exactly.

00:43:41.760 Nothing terrifies Trump more than the Rapid Response Choir.

00:43:44.840 No, and you've got all these beta males like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Cory Booker.

00:43:50.120 It's just beta male, beta male, beta male.

00:43:52.120 Speaking of Cory Booker, what did the gays say about Cory Booker?

00:43:55.480 Well, my lawyer has told me not to opine on that tonight.

00:44:00.460 He was knocking on my dressing room door.

00:44:03.660 Remember those engagement photos that hit of him and his fiancée?

00:44:09.060 We're joyful.

00:44:10.500 We're definitely really in love.

00:44:12.400 I was going to say, they look like Michelle and Barack's engagement photos, so maybe it's true love.

00:44:19.640 Unclear.

00:44:20.180 All right, so I did read in my avid following of Spot On that you are really happy for George Clooney,

00:44:29.920 who has found Italy just too tough an environment in which to raise his children at Lake Como is really unfortunate, I guess,

00:44:36.120 and now has moved to France because he wants his kids to grow up in a place that's not obsessed with celebrity culture.

00:44:43.800 Absolutely, Megan.

00:44:44.620 And I know this will resonate with a lot of folks in the audience tonight.

00:44:47.180 People in Texas, Arizona, Florida, they talk about this all the time.

00:44:50.900 These liberals in states like California, they vote for every Democratic candidate.

00:44:55.320 They shill for Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris.

00:44:58.380 The second those policies come home to roost and they've got homelessness and crime running amok on the streets, they flee.

00:45:04.660 They move to red states and then they bring their policies to the red states.

00:45:08.200 You're fleeing these blue states to come to red states and you're bringing the same policies?

00:45:11.980 We've had it.

00:45:12.800 Okay, we've had it.

00:45:13.660 Yeah.

00:45:13.820 And that's with George Clooney as well.

00:45:15.280 Completely agree.

00:45:18.280 He's such a charlatan.

00:45:19.260 He's dying to be a journalist.

00:45:20.320 He's not a journalist.

00:45:21.180 He's got a lot of thoughts about journalism.

00:45:22.640 He of the left.

00:45:23.420 He wants to be hailed as a hero because he wrote that one op-ed telling Joe Biden to drop out after the debate when we all knew he was totally infirm.

00:45:30.520 He's like, aha, I have a big reveal for you.

00:45:32.500 We're like, we already saw the end of this movie.

00:45:34.080 No, Megan, these Democrats got kudos and bona fides for saying, you know, Joe Biden might be in decline.

00:45:40.680 And this is like fall of 2024.

00:45:42.600 The Mars rover could see that Joe Biden was in decline.

00:45:45.720 Okay.

00:45:46.360 Like these Democrats are writing op-eds.

00:45:48.340 Y'all are so brave.

00:45:49.560 Oh, you're just so brave calling out Joe Biden.

00:45:51.700 I'm like, the guy is non-compass mentis.

00:45:53.660 He's walking off into bushes.

00:45:55.220 We can see with our own eyes what's happening.

00:45:57.340 Yes, we did not need George Clooney's op-ed.

00:46:00.260 Now, the one person I think it would be the worst.

00:46:03.480 I would work for Katie Porter before I'd work for this person has to be Meghan Markle.

00:46:09.420 She literally just lost her 10th head of publicity in, I think it's three years since she opened her little as ever business or whatever she's calling it these days.

00:46:23.920 She cannot keep a staff.

00:46:25.680 All of the people writing bios on her talk about what a nightmare she is, how nasty she is.

00:46:29.480 She's smart enough not to get caught on camera.

00:46:31.180 Get out of there, you fucking bitch!

00:46:33.180 She's smart enough not to do that like Katie Porter.

00:46:35.480 But, she's apparently even meaner than her because she cannot keep anyone in her employ and she continues to try to mislead us into believing she's got this Netflix series deal even though season two was a fake.

00:46:47.620 It was just an extension of season one that she tried to spin as a second season.

00:46:51.300 And now she's trying to spin what's been changed into like, and we want a third season into, we'll take a first look as though that's like a victory, like a promotion.

00:46:59.960 No, first look is like, you can tell them that we've made you a first look deal.

00:47:03.500 No, Meghan Markle, these two little hucksters over in Montecito, I cannot stand them, okay?

00:47:09.560 I call her the Duchess of Scamalot, the Duchess of White Castle, and my thing with Meghan Markle is this.

00:47:15.660 She is still dining out on her Royal Highness title.

00:47:19.180 She's been gone six years, you know what I'm saying?

00:47:21.480 She's still dining out to sell her jams, jellies, and dog biscuits, and whatever other crap she's selling.

00:47:26.860 But my thing with Meghan Markle is this.

00:47:29.000 I gave her the benefit of the doubt.

00:47:30.340 There are so many of us who are excited, this American girl is going to marry this ginger prince, the most eligible bachelor on earth.

00:47:37.700 She goes in there, she can't stand it but more than six months, they abscond to the U.S., and in the Queen's final dying days, what does she do?

00:47:45.300 She goes and accuses them all of racism, she shanks them, she stabs them in the back, and they welcomed her with open arms.

00:47:51.700 So I will never respect Meghan Markle for that.

00:47:53.900 That's not how you treat people who welcomed you, with open arms.

00:47:56.640 Right on.

00:47:56.980 They gave you a life and a career, come on.

00:47:59.320 She's not a good person.

00:48:00.760 How long do we give that marriage?

00:48:02.580 Oh, God, maybe 45 more minutes?

00:48:04.580 We'll check after the show.

00:48:05.340 It's not going to be long.

00:48:06.680 All right, so tell us a little bit about you, Link, because your political rise has been rapid and really impressive.

00:48:14.320 And it was because the RFKJ campaign found you, right?

00:48:17.380 It was your own talents that got you noticed.

00:48:18.920 Well, thank you.

00:48:19.520 And can I just say, I'm on stage with Megyn Kelly right now.

00:48:23.060 This is really cool.

00:48:26.080 Sweet.

00:48:27.240 I was on her show the first time one year ago this month, okay, and they passed on me.

00:48:31.960 Megyn might not even know this.

00:48:33.060 I had people reaching out.

00:48:34.480 Hey, you guys should have Link.

00:48:35.620 I would send cold emails.

00:48:37.020 I said, if we can meet, we will hit it off.

00:48:39.340 So be tenacious, people out there.

00:48:41.480 Because now I'm on the tour.

00:48:42.980 I did not know that.

00:48:43.740 Yeah, that is true.

00:48:45.400 So with RFK, with Bobby, I was making videos about all the primary candidates in the spring of 2023 on TikTok.

00:48:53.160 And I said, there's this guy.

00:48:54.760 His name's RFK Jr.

00:48:56.280 He's running as a Democrat at the time.

00:48:58.900 His dad was attorney general.

00:49:00.640 His uncle was president.

00:49:02.000 Here's what he stands for and what he believes.

00:49:03.700 I didn't know all the drama over COVID.

00:49:05.780 I didn't know all the past history.

00:49:07.520 And my video started getting this huge reaction.

00:49:10.420 When Bobby's daughter-in-law, Amaryllis, took over the campaign, Amaryllis Kennedy, she reached out to me.

00:49:15.600 They said, are you going to be in Los Angeles on June 23rd?

00:49:18.580 I lied and said yes and booked an economy ticket.

00:49:21.600 That's my number one thing.

00:49:22.540 If you have kids out there, tell them just book the flight and show up.

00:49:25.360 Lie.

00:49:25.960 So I go to the house.

00:49:27.020 It's good to remember.

00:49:27.660 Lie.

00:49:28.080 Yeah, I'll give you guys the cliff notes.

00:49:29.180 I go to the house.

00:49:30.060 I get pat down by security.

00:49:31.880 I'm introduced to Bobby.

00:49:33.780 I don't know he's that much of a rock star because, like I said, I missed all the COVID stuff.

00:49:37.460 He immediately starts in on me.

00:49:38.660 We need help with social media.

00:49:40.160 We've got this guy and this guy.

00:49:41.900 And what's your number?

00:49:42.520 What's your number?

00:49:43.440 So I give him my number.

00:49:44.620 He's like, I'm calling you.

00:49:45.460 I'm calling you.

00:49:46.040 Is it going through?

00:49:46.740 I said, yes.

00:49:47.780 So because I'm me, I kind of hung out at the house and mingled with the family.

00:49:51.960 And I'm playing with the dogs.

00:49:53.320 I run into him in the kitchen like an hour later.

00:49:55.640 Have you sent me your information?

00:49:57.040 I was like, no, Bobby.

00:49:58.020 I'll do it.

00:49:58.460 I'll do it.

00:49:58.800 He goes, why are you so slow?

00:50:00.720 And so over the course of the next few weeks, I thought, I have his number.

00:50:05.780 I'm going to send him some ideas.

00:50:07.460 I'd see something in the news.

00:50:08.720 I would text him.

00:50:09.560 I would call him, which I know sounds crazy.

00:50:11.860 But I would text him.

00:50:12.800 I'd call him with some ideas.

00:50:13.860 And his daughter-in-law finally said, you know what?

00:50:15.520 We'll hire you.

00:50:16.420 And do you want to open for Bobby on October 9th when he leaves the Democratic Party?

00:50:20.220 I said, I'm scared.

00:50:22.340 But yes, I will do it.

00:50:23.840 And they hired me off of TikTok.

00:50:26.260 And I had one friend who'd been in politics for 20 years.

00:50:28.500 I only knew one person.

00:50:29.660 I said, what do I ask for?

00:50:31.260 And she's like, ask for the world.

00:50:33.040 Because if you don't get it, you can maybe work on another campaign.

00:50:35.440 So they said, what do you want your title to be?

00:50:37.360 I said, I want to be a senior advisor to RK Jr.

00:50:40.420 Senior advisor.

00:50:41.500 And they said, we can make that happen.

00:50:43.560 And I ended up being the only surrogate, I think, on cable and doing a lot of the shows.

00:50:47.700 And the campaign wound down.

00:50:49.160 I was one of the main people pushing him, pushing him to endorse Trump to an annoying degree.

00:50:53.540 I was like, you've got to endorse Trump.

00:50:55.020 And how did that go?

00:50:56.080 How did that go, guys?

00:50:57.020 That seriously made a huge difference.

00:51:00.480 It may have made the difference in getting Trump over the edge.

00:51:03.020 And obviously, he was rewarded for it.

00:51:04.800 Have you ever seen a positive article about RFKJ in the news at all?

00:51:08.480 Anywhere?

00:51:09.200 Only from your website?

00:51:10.640 Yes.

00:51:11.380 Literally, I think we're the only ones.

00:51:12.860 Well, it's interesting because you talk about this, too, how he has the highest net favorability.

00:51:17.020 He had the highest net favorability of anyone in 2023.

00:51:20.160 We were looking at Quinnipiac polls and Harvard-Harris polls.

00:51:23.020 He was so beloved by people all across the political spectrum.

00:51:25.940 There was like this inverse relationship.

00:51:28.040 If MSNBC hated you, the American people with common sense and their heads, you know, screwed

00:51:33.120 on straight, they liked you.

00:51:34.440 Yeah.

00:51:34.640 And so we just sort of ran with that and we didn't really care.

00:51:36.820 And he's so used to getting nothing but negative press.

00:51:39.320 It doesn't really faze him at all.

00:51:40.940 He doesn't care.

00:51:41.620 Those are the only kind of people we can have in the Trump administration.

00:51:44.280 Nobody else will work.

00:51:45.400 What did you make of Cheryl's book tour?

00:51:47.340 I think Cheryl's really coming into her own.

00:51:49.420 I love Cheryl.

00:51:50.100 I think she's finding her voice in D.C.

00:51:52.660 The first time I met Cheryl, I went over to Bobby's house.

00:51:56.340 We were all going to caravan to some event in like Costa Mesa, California.

00:52:00.480 There wasn't a dead bear on top of the roof, was there?

00:52:02.580 No, there wasn't a dead bear in the car.

00:52:04.300 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:52:05.220 People bring up scandals all the time.

00:52:06.660 I'm like, honey, we've been through hell.

00:52:08.400 There was nothing.

00:52:09.300 Only you knew.

00:52:09.940 You know, Cheryl Hines' book tour, I think, is going so well.

00:52:11.980 The first time I met her, I'm a huge fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

00:52:15.040 We all meet at his house because we didn't have a ton of money.

00:52:17.740 There was no campaign headquarters.

00:52:19.300 So we meet at his house in Brentwood.

00:52:20.720 She's in the kitchen making coffee and breakfast in pajamas with her hair in a bun.

00:52:24.980 Couldn't have been the nicest.

00:52:26.260 She was so nice and so genuine.

00:52:27.560 I'm happy for her.

00:52:28.300 Yeah, me too.

00:52:29.400 They're really sweet.

00:52:30.840 And she's definitely rooting for him.

00:52:32.040 And honestly, like, he needs the support because he...

00:52:34.820 I talked to a lot of the people in the administration, people who are running big, important agencies.

00:52:38.980 And the one thing I'm seeing comment across the board is they are committed to the job,

00:52:44.000 but they are getting undermined from within.

00:52:46.460 You know, it's not just the press and the media that's against them.

00:52:50.060 Like, you know, deep state, whatever you want to call it.

00:52:52.280 It's across agencies where they're getting undermined from within.

00:52:55.060 So you actually do have to have the kind of spine Bobby Kennedy has if you're going to make it.

00:52:59.940 Otherwise, you're going to piece out of there.

00:53:01.380 I mean, I'm not going to break my NDA, but I can tell you in private and in public,

00:53:05.640 he does not care about the negativity and the hate and the attacks.

00:53:09.460 He knows he's in this mission.

00:53:10.780 If he can help even one kid with a chronic disease or chronic diabetes...

00:53:14.860 I mean, our people are sicker than ever before, okay?

00:53:19.580 So let's say the guy's not perfect.

00:53:21.760 The way we've been doing things, politics as usual, is not going to be able to continue.

00:53:25.960 So let's get someone in there to try and give a chance and try something new.

00:53:29.880 Because we're the sickest people.

00:53:31.180 And that's not what the United States of America is supposed to be about.

00:53:34.100 And it's working.

00:53:34.540 We're having massive changes happen at HHS, at FDA, across the board.

00:53:38.280 And some new changes and announcements are coming soon.

00:53:41.000 I have it on good authority.

00:53:42.840 Link, we love you.

00:53:44.060 Thank you so much.

00:53:45.560 You're the greatest.

00:53:46.400 Thank you.

00:53:47.420 Thank you so much.

00:53:48.600 Thank you.

00:53:49.220 God bless you.

00:53:49.760 Thank you.

00:53:50.200 Good job.

00:53:51.540 Link Lauren, everybody.

00:53:53.380 Yes.

00:53:54.560 Go forward.

00:53:57.160 You're so lucky you can hang out with Link whenever you want.

00:53:59.720 He lives with you.

00:54:02.320 You can see why we hired him, right?

00:54:04.540 Yeah.

00:54:06.140 Got a lot of people who wanted to be part of MK Media.

00:54:08.760 And there were a few who rose to the top immediately we knew we wanted.

00:54:11.920 And that includes my next guest.

00:54:14.940 Mark Halperin has basically run pretty much every news organization of respect that you've ever heard of over the past 30 years.

00:54:22.340 From Time Magazine, and he was a contributor at MSNBC back before they lost their minds.

00:54:27.260 MSNBC, back like when I started at Fox in 2004, used to be normal.

00:54:31.160 When Dan Abrams was running it, they were like normal.

00:54:33.780 Their commitment was to doing regular news.

00:54:35.680 It wasn't to doing hard left stuff.

00:54:38.000 And Mark was there for many years.

00:54:40.480 And then he rose to the top of ABC News, running all politics there and news coverage and was sort of the god of that.

00:54:46.120 Then eventually became the executive producer and creator of the show The Circus on Showtime.

00:54:50.500 There's a lot that you have consumed in the news media that you may not even realize started at the hand of Mark Halperin.

00:54:58.620 And his good reporting or his instincts to send reporters out to go get the story.

00:55:03.240 And he is totally and utterly fearless when doing that.

00:55:07.240 He, as you may remember, was the reporter who broke that Joe Biden was not going to make it, that he was going to be stepping down.

00:55:15.080 He was one of the few who sat on MSNBC on election night 2016 saying there is a very clear path for Donald Trump to win this when everyone around him had their jaws dropped and looked at him like he had three heads saying, what are you talking about, you moron?

00:55:32.180 And he stuck to his guns.

00:55:33.920 He's an honest, great reporter.

00:55:36.420 Here's a little look at Mark Halperin.

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00:57:40.360 All right, let's get this party started.

00:57:42.860 Megan Kelly live.

00:57:44.360 On tour across America.

00:57:46.300 I was like, we have to go.

00:57:47.640 And then after what happened to Charlie, I'm like, we definitely have to go.

00:57:50.920 The best way to honor Charlie's legacy is to be out here.

00:57:53.980 To be unafraid.

00:57:55.480 To not back down.

00:57:56.960 Stand firmly.

00:57:58.280 Do not waver on the truth.

00:58:00.820 Next stop, White Plains, Jacksonville, Miami, and Atlanta.

00:58:03.560 So go get your tickets right now before they sell out.

00:58:06.360 MeganKelley.com.

00:58:07.480 Presented by YRefi and SiriusXM.

00:58:14.820 This is a massive story.

00:58:17.140 Democrats is in support from voters of color, from younger voters.

00:58:20.880 Massive.

00:58:21.420 The Democrats are still addicted to two things.

00:58:23.940 Hating Trump.

00:58:25.040 And they're addicted to being protected by the legacy media.

00:58:28.980 They're still afraid of the base of the party.

00:58:30.600 They're afraid to go there.

00:58:31.520 CBS News has been somewhere between irrelevant and a joke.

00:58:35.080 They've been way too liberal.

00:58:36.740 And they've not been part of the conversation.

00:58:38.640 I'm hungry.

00:58:39.120 I could use some salad.

00:58:41.460 I've got it for you right here.

00:58:43.120 One of the reasons I wrote this book, Rachel, is...

00:58:46.240 There are actually a number of reasons.

00:58:52.040 Please, I would like a light vinaigrette.

00:58:54.420 Charlie must be demonized in death because he was close to Trump.

00:58:57.360 Because that's the only way they'd think.

00:58:58.620 They don't know what a threat he is.

00:58:59.920 He was literally an historic figure.

00:59:01.920 But they don't know.

00:59:03.220 It's just like they've underestimated MAGA for 10 years.

00:59:05.700 I think this could change the entire midterms.

00:59:09.080 Yeah.

00:59:09.800 Mark Halpern, everybody.

00:59:11.180 Come on out, Mark.

00:59:11.780 They simply don't make them like this anymore.

00:59:31.280 I'm sorry, but if any news organization out there actually wanted to save itself, they'd

00:59:36.800 be on their knees offering Mark billions of dollars to come in and try to do something

00:59:40.660 to save them.

00:59:41.940 But they won't because they still think they know best.

00:59:44.840 Yeah.

00:59:44.980 I'm a little self-conscious for two reasons.

00:59:48.360 Number one, don't know how to sit because of Link.

00:59:50.460 That's what Link was saying, yeah.

00:59:51.400 Yeah, well, no, because of Link.

00:59:52.500 I probably wouldn't have thought about it.

00:59:53.680 How do we feel about how he is in it?

00:59:55.520 Is this good?

00:59:56.460 Well, I've got my Texas boots on.

00:59:57.800 Oh, nice.

00:59:58.240 Okay.

00:59:58.920 Okay.

00:59:59.600 When I wear these in New York, they say I'm swaggering.

01:00:04.060 When I hear them here, they just say I'm walking.

01:00:08.000 But the other reason I'm uncomfortable is I'm afraid I'm going to use profanity.

01:00:12.400 And we already got chastised by that.

01:00:13.860 Yeah.

01:00:14.180 I mean, 15% of you, according to Megan's research, would hate it.

01:00:17.720 Well, it was a request.

01:00:18.820 Yeah.

01:00:18.940 It wasn't like a mandate.

01:00:20.060 I'm going to do my best.

01:00:20.860 I don't think he's going to turn and walk out.

01:00:22.160 I'm going to do my best and sit down.

01:00:23.400 But if Governor Pritzker comes up, all bets are off.

01:00:25.860 Oh.

01:00:27.420 Note to self.

01:00:28.180 Yeah.

01:00:30.160 Anyway, but thank you for the very nice introduction.

01:00:32.540 Of course.

01:00:32.640 You read it just the way I wrote it, which I appreciate.

01:00:35.480 Good like that.

01:00:36.200 Yeah.

01:00:36.540 We mentioned with Link, Jasmine Crockett.

01:00:39.700 Now, there's news on Jasmine Crockett today.

01:00:42.480 Her district is, her house seat has basically been eliminated thanks to redistricting.

01:00:46.700 And she, oh, stand by.

01:00:51.340 She's now threatening to torture us some more by possibly running for Senate.

01:00:56.660 Yeah.

01:00:56.860 So, all of you can be represented by her.

01:01:00.020 Not just someone.

01:01:00.920 How do we like her chances?

01:01:02.720 Not great.

01:01:03.640 Although, you know, it's hard to say that any Democrat running statewide in Texas has a

01:01:07.400 great chance because we're looking at several decades of failure.

01:01:10.480 But she could be the nominee.

01:01:12.500 Really?

01:01:12.920 She could be.

01:01:13.500 Yeah.

01:01:13.820 I think so.

01:01:14.520 How?

01:01:14.760 I mean, the people she's running against are, I would say, the same level of credibility.

01:01:20.240 I feel like she's not going to get fourth worth.

01:01:23.080 No.

01:01:24.480 But she could in the primary.

01:01:27.020 Yes.

01:01:27.420 Okay.

01:01:27.620 So, do you think she has a long career in politics ahead of her?

01:01:30.940 I mean, she's not going to win statewide office in Texas.

01:01:33.480 Okay.

01:01:33.620 But, you know, she can continue to run.

01:01:36.480 Well, that'll be fun to watch.

01:01:37.480 And speaking of that, Kamala Harris gave an interview to the BBC and has officially opened

01:01:44.480 the door to another presidential run.

01:01:47.180 Yeah.

01:01:47.500 Saying it's possible.

01:01:48.940 Yeah.

01:01:49.360 And, quote, I'm not done yet.

01:01:51.540 Yeah.

01:01:52.240 That's as close as we've heard her come to saying I'm doing it.

01:01:54.840 So, when I heard that, there's a guy named Mo Udall from Arizona, a member of Congress

01:01:58.740 who ran for president.

01:02:00.200 And he's not that good as a candidate, but he told funny jokes about running.

01:02:03.900 And he said, he walked into a barbershop in New Hampshire and said, I'm running for president.

01:02:08.480 And the people in the barbershop looked at each other and said, yeah, we were just laughing

01:02:11.420 about that the other day.

01:02:13.460 That's what I think about when I think about this, because it's very hard to find anyone,

01:02:18.160 including if you talk to her own donors, who are enthusiastic about her running again.

01:02:22.540 So, she can say it.

01:02:24.160 She can think about it.

01:02:25.160 But it's a pretty big precipitous fall to go from the vice president and nominee to where

01:02:31.400 I think she is now, which is, she's down in terms of support to paid staff and close

01:02:36.160 relatives.

01:02:36.820 Yeah.

01:02:37.180 That's about it.

01:02:37.960 Well, I mean, what's interesting is we mentioned Katie Porter in the last segment.

01:02:41.280 Katie Porter, the reason she was subjected to some mildly challenging questions is because

01:02:46.100 it's a primary.

01:02:48.160 But the odds are, if Katie Porter were, if this were like a two-party state, and you had

01:02:53.120 the Democrat nominee and the Republican nominee, and she had gotten the Democratic nomination,

01:02:57.560 no reporters would have laid a glove on her because that's not what the media does with

01:03:00.740 Democrats.

01:03:01.440 That's why she was so shocked when she got pressed at all.

01:03:04.800 Like, she was like, what is this?

01:03:05.900 You know, the fix is supposed to be in.

01:03:07.240 Why am I?

01:03:07.760 But it's because she's in the primary process.

01:03:09.580 And Kamala Harris didn't have to go through that in 2024, but she would if she did throw

01:03:14.020 her hat in the ring this time around.

01:03:15.620 And I do think the media would treat her very differently.

01:03:18.080 What do you think?

01:03:18.920 Oh, I think they definitely would.

01:03:19.960 And she'd not only have to answer questions, she'd have to raise money.

01:03:23.020 She'd have to go talk to voters face-to-face.

01:03:25.360 She'd have to do all the things that she tried to do in 2020 when her campaign was a failure.

01:03:29.400 So again, she's welcome to run, of course, but I just don't see how she can do anything

01:03:35.360 that's required in the early phase.

01:03:37.120 So if she walks up to the line and looks at it, I think she'll back away from the edge.

01:03:41.660 I really hope she does it.

01:03:43.460 I'm praying to God she does it.

01:03:44.880 I miss the Venn diagrams.

01:03:47.420 And just like her, you know, look at her going.

01:03:50.760 I miss it.

01:03:55.240 I really could use a hefty dose of Kamala Harrison in my daily news consumption because

01:03:58.960 I was never so happy as when she was there.

01:04:00.900 And then she added Tim Walz.

01:04:02.200 It got so much better.

01:04:03.220 I don't know.

01:04:03.500 I think we underestimated those days.

01:04:04.960 Let's pledge that if she runs, you and I will go cover an early event together.

01:04:08.580 Yes.

01:04:08.900 Let's go show up and see.

01:04:10.280 We'll just follow her on the campaign trail.

01:04:11.660 One person we may actually be following is, you mentioned him, Governor J.B. Pritzker

01:04:17.200 of Illinois.

01:04:18.360 Yeah.

01:04:19.580 So this guy is sane.

01:04:22.040 This guy had the temerity to go on with Brett Baer, my old pal at Fox News, and Brett asked

01:04:28.520 him, which was, you know, with respect to Brett, a kind of obvious question, which is

01:04:33.140 about the crime rate in Illinois, where they have the number one murder rate in the country.

01:04:38.920 This is the list you do not want to be on the top of.

01:04:40.920 And we actually have the soundbite.

01:04:42.720 Here is how that went.

01:04:44.740 Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all the big cities?

01:04:50.100 Well, we are not in the top 30 in terms of our murder rate.

01:04:53.840 Indeed, our murder rate has been cut in half over the last four years.

01:04:58.580 And every year it's gone down by double digits.

01:05:00.940 And if you look at all of the violent crime over the last four years, they've all gone down.

01:05:06.040 Most populous U.S. cities, 17.47 per 100,000 population.

01:05:10.040 Chicago is number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles,

01:05:14.940 New York, and San Diego.

01:05:16.340 What I'm explaining to you is when you want to fight crime.

01:05:19.460 Look, you can pull statistics up.

01:05:21.100 No, no, these are murders.

01:05:22.120 I'm explaining to you that our murder rate has been cut in half.

01:05:25.560 And very importantly, Brett, and you've got to hear this, very importantly, we've been

01:05:30.540 doing the things that are necessary to bring crime down, right?

01:05:33.220 We've invested in community violence interruption.

01:05:35.320 We've invested in police.

01:05:39.820 Thoughts on that?

01:05:40.980 I mean, the craziest thing about it is I think he probably walked in the green room and his

01:05:44.100 staff high-fived him.

01:05:46.340 And this is why I was worried about using profanity.

01:05:48.780 I do not get why he's considered a presidential candidate.

01:05:52.860 He's got a failed record.

01:05:55.140 He's a billionaire.

01:05:56.040 So that's why they, I guess, part of it.

01:05:58.180 But you go on to Brett's show, you're auditioning.

01:06:02.160 You're saying to people, I'm ready for prime time.

01:06:04.640 He goes on.

01:06:05.160 He's stuttering.

01:06:05.940 He's lying.

01:06:06.940 He's not driving any positive message.

01:06:08.920 So if that was the audition, I don't believe he'll get a call back.

01:06:12.080 How does he think he can get away with that?

01:06:13.780 I mean, that's a knowable thing, what the murder rate of Chicago is.

01:06:17.000 And it is far in excess of the number two city.

01:06:21.060 We all know this.

01:06:21.960 They do absolutely nothing to stop it.

01:06:23.660 I have been to the south side of Chicago.

01:06:25.220 Chicago, it's genuinely scary.

01:06:27.600 They will kill each other just for crossing over into the wrong block.

01:06:31.060 The one block is controlled by a black gang.

01:06:33.180 The next block is controlled by a Hispanic gang.

01:06:35.680 And mothers live in fear that their kids are not going to have it figured out.

01:06:39.380 A lot of these boys are fatherless.

01:06:41.120 Like, that community has been totally abandoned by J.B. Pritzker and the left entirely.

01:06:46.080 They won't even acknowledge this.

01:06:47.220 They think it's all black men dying at the hands of racist white cops.

01:06:51.920 So once again, you actually see the live example of him ignoring it.

01:06:55.220 The only thing I can think of is he's inspired by George Costanz on Seinfeld, where George

01:07:00.960 quit but then pretended he didn't.

01:07:02.880 He's just going to brazen his way through and say, no, no, no, those aren't the stats.

01:07:06.580 And again, if you're going to do sit with Brett or with you or with me, like, prepare.

01:07:12.540 This is not a normal interview where they're just going to ask easy question and move on.

01:07:16.360 So I say again, if that's the way he thinks he can approach a big interview, I'm tripling

01:07:21.320 down on saying he's not going to be a serious candidate the way he appears to triple down

01:07:26.780 on cheeseburgers.

01:07:28.520 Although clearly he's on the shot.

01:07:30.340 Do we agree that Pritzker's on the shot right now?

01:07:32.240 Oh, yeah.

01:07:32.680 Or suddenly he's developed iron discipline.

01:07:35.520 He's totally on the shot.

01:07:36.820 But I think it's smart because you cannot be a morbidly obese presidential candidate.

01:07:41.460 Like, it doesn't work.

01:07:42.340 You have to be kind of tall and you have to be on the thin side.

01:07:45.000 You can be a little hefty, but you cannot be morbidly obese like he was a couple months

01:07:48.480 ago.

01:07:48.820 They have an inordinate number in their field of short and or fat candidates.

01:07:52.940 So they have to figure that out.

01:07:54.840 There's a shot for the fat.

01:07:56.200 There's not much for the short.

01:07:58.580 Lifts.

01:07:59.060 It's part of being a Democrat.

01:08:00.060 Texas boots, but that's only one more inch.

01:08:03.360 Okay.

01:08:03.820 So if not Pritzker and not Harris, then who?

01:08:09.900 Every cycle I've covered, and I've covered everyone since 88, at this point in the cycle,

01:08:14.220 I could tell you who I think is going to be nominated and who I think the next two are.

01:08:18.560 This is roulette.

01:08:20.380 There's really not a strong candidate in this field.

01:08:22.380 And it's not a matter of, you know, being biased against them because I'm not.

01:08:26.840 It's not a matter of it's too soon to evaluate.

01:08:30.060 Because the people who win the presidency are touted as great candidates forever, with

01:08:36.460 the exception of Joe Biden.

01:08:37.940 Everyone who's won has been touted in the modern era, has been touted as that person

01:08:42.500 probably someday be a great candidate for president.

01:08:44.920 Both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Trump.

01:08:48.620 There's no one like that.

01:08:49.840 There's no one.

01:08:50.440 So my grandfather grew up in a Polish village, and he was 5'6", but he was the tallest man in

01:08:57.860 the village.

01:08:58.260 So someone will be the tallest man or woman in the village, but they're going to be 5'6".

01:09:04.100 Yes.

01:09:05.640 Now let's talk about GOP.

01:09:07.820 Is it J.D.?

01:09:08.860 Because whenever Trump gets asked this question, he says, yeah, J.D., yes, or Marco.

01:09:13.960 He always throws Marco in there, who we love.

01:09:17.100 But is there realistically any way that Marco gets it over J.D.?

01:09:20.520 Let's do a survey of the audience.

01:09:22.120 I'm going to ask you all to vote by show of hands.

01:09:23.780 If you're uncomfortable voting in front of the others, you can close your eyes as you

01:09:27.040 vote.

01:09:28.480 Raise your hand if you'd like J.D.

01:09:30.000 Vance to be the nominee.

01:09:33.620 Raise your hand if you'd like it to be open and someone else can be considered.

01:09:38.460 Okay.

01:09:38.940 Next to no one, right?

01:09:39.920 So there's never been, just as there's never been a field as formless and as weak as the

01:09:46.840 Democrats, at least in my career, there's never been a situation like this.

01:09:50.300 Incumbent vice president, Bush 41, Reagan's vice president.

01:09:55.520 Not only did Reagan not endorse him until after the nomination fight was over, but literally

01:09:59.380 at the endorsement event.

01:10:00.280 You can go watch it on YouTube, on C-SPAN.

01:10:03.040 He called him, I'm here to endorse my vice president, George Bosch.

01:10:07.500 So he mispronounced his name.

01:10:09.680 Clinton, Gore, wanted to run.

01:10:11.820 Clinton made his life miserable.

01:10:12.980 They wouldn't let him do anything.

01:10:14.380 When Biden was vice president, Obama said, sorry, I'm endorsing Hillary.

01:10:18.480 We've never had an incumbent vice president with the full support to do all the things he

01:10:23.380 does.

01:10:23.920 Overseas trips, domestic trips, political operation, finance chair of the Republican National

01:10:28.940 Committee.

01:10:29.300 So for those of you, few, many, who raised your hand about wanting J.D. Vance, I think

01:10:35.420 he'll be endorsed by Trump.

01:10:37.240 I think he may run as a ticket with Rubio.

01:10:39.660 I don't think anybody-

01:10:40.780 Could we be that lucky?

01:10:41.520 I don't think anybody will run against him.

01:10:43.740 And I think on the current trajectory, the Democrat nomination process will start in January

01:10:49.100 of 28.

01:10:50.580 I think on New Year's Day, he will have $2 billion in the bank.

01:10:54.920 Wow.

01:10:55.440 And no opposition.

01:10:56.800 So does that mean he'll be the next president?

01:10:59.080 No.

01:10:59.560 But he's the odds-on favorite to not only be the nominee, but to be the next president

01:11:02.960 today.

01:11:04.200 How does it happen?

01:11:05.860 Because, you know, Trump has carefully not said it yet.

01:11:09.640 So how does it happen?

01:11:10.680 I mean, not yet.

01:11:12.460 It's 2025, right?

01:11:14.500 So how does it happen?

01:11:15.960 I think-

01:11:16.300 But, you know, Trump also doesn't like anybody else to be the star of the story.

01:11:19.300 He doesn't at all.

01:11:20.980 But J.D. Vance has many skills.

01:11:24.120 It's kind of an incredible story.

01:11:25.460 Like, how many months ago?

01:11:28.540 14 months ago, at the Republican convention, President Bush, Trump gets shot on a Saturday

01:11:34.600 night.

01:11:35.300 He hasn't picked his running mate yet, or he hasn't announced it.

01:11:38.440 And on Sunday and Monday, I'm talking to my sources in Milwaukee about the president being

01:11:44.340 shot, but also about the running mate pick.

01:11:46.540 And very senior people in the Republican Party, rather than saying, I can't say anything negative

01:11:51.880 about anything because we're so upset about President Trump, are practically literally

01:11:56.120 grabbing my lapel saying, please use whatever influence you have to stop J.D. Vance from being

01:12:00.640 picked.

01:12:00.660 Stop him, right.

01:12:01.740 That's 14 months ago.

01:12:03.380 Today, he doesn't have an enemy I can find on Capitol Hill, in the administration.

01:12:08.320 And you're right that President Trump doesn't normally like being upstaged, but J.D.'s careful

01:12:12.620 not to.

01:12:13.640 And what does President Trump like?

01:12:15.220 He likes success.

01:12:16.200 What else does he like?

01:12:17.480 He likes people who go on with George Stephanopoulos and rings them, right?

01:12:21.220 He loves it.

01:12:21.940 He loves it.

01:12:22.460 So I don't know when he'll pull the trigger and endorse, but again, supported by Don Jr.,

01:12:29.440 supported by Tucker, supported by lots of people in the administration.

01:12:33.280 So when does he do it?

01:12:34.820 If I had to guess, I'd say probably right after the midterms.

01:12:38.380 Right after the midterms.

01:12:39.040 Is that soon?

01:12:39.880 Well, a year from now.

01:12:40.780 Yeah, but that's kind of soon.

01:12:42.340 Yeah.

01:12:42.760 But I just, I just, I don't see how he avoids endorsing him.

01:12:46.560 I just don't see it.

01:12:47.160 And I don't see anybody thinking they could beat him in a primary.

01:12:49.660 Yeah, that's right.

01:12:50.360 Just don't see it.

01:12:50.880 There are a lot of folks in the administration who are auditioning daily, thinking that they

01:12:54.860 might get the role, or they might get selected as VP, that maybe it's not Marcos.

01:12:59.420 Is that realistic?

01:13:00.360 Do you think, like, one of the women, potentially?

01:13:03.280 Maybe.

01:13:03.780 There's a name I've heard a lot lately, particularly if the economy's not doing as well as they

01:13:08.400 would like.

01:13:09.360 Ladies and gentlemen, how do you feel about Vice President Scott Besant?

01:13:15.160 They don't feel that great about it.

01:13:16.440 Not that great about it.

01:13:17.320 I've heard that lately.

01:13:18.460 And Scott Besant is an ambitious guy, but I think it'll be Marco, but again, current

01:13:25.340 trajectory.

01:13:26.060 I think it'll be Marco, too.

01:13:27.180 But my, you know, there's, the Trump administration has Kristi Noem, they have Tulsi, and they have

01:13:35.240 Pam Bondi.

01:13:36.620 Yeah.

01:13:37.260 And I have been told that all three are very ambitious.

01:13:40.880 Yeah.

01:13:41.480 Is there any chance one of those rests?

01:13:43.960 Runs for president or vice president?

01:13:45.260 Well, no, but rests the number two spot away.

01:13:46.920 Yeah, I'd add Sarah Huckabee into that, too.

01:13:48.900 Yeah.

01:13:50.220 I mean, there's more of a chance than Jim Carrey, you're saying there's a chance, chance.

01:13:55.480 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:55.820 But I just think Rubio is such a star in this administration, and he and Vance are close.

01:14:02.600 And he's doing everybody's job.

01:14:03.920 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:05.160 So, I mean, I don't feel as certain about that, but again, I just think he's the odds-on

01:14:11.160 favorite.

01:14:11.500 So, if the Democrat Party is in such disarray, which I think we both agree it is, why do they

01:14:16.420 have any shot at winning the midterms?

01:14:19.160 Well, first of all, there's just not that many seats in play, right?

01:14:23.580 History is on their side in the sense that the president's party typically doesn't do

01:14:27.700 well in the midterms.

01:14:28.940 And there's, you know, 20 races in the House and seven races in the Senate that will decide

01:14:36.080 it.

01:14:36.700 I would say, at this point in the cycle, as the out party, they have less of a chance

01:14:41.660 to do well than typical by a lot.

01:14:44.100 But they have history, and they have just, what is the word, idiosyncratically, in some

01:14:49.660 of these races, they have a decent chance.

01:14:51.200 But I don't think they would be particularly bullish if the economy's good.

01:14:55.240 I think that's the big variable that we can't say right now.

01:14:59.680 Let's do another survey.

01:15:00.940 Raise your hand if you think the economy's doing well.

01:15:04.840 Okay.

01:15:05.720 It's mattering.

01:15:06.360 Yeah.

01:15:06.780 So, that's today.

01:15:08.980 Even President Trump, who normally every day is the greatest day of ever because he's

01:15:13.420 president, even he doesn't say the economy's great now.

01:15:17.020 He says it'll be great next year.

01:15:18.560 He doesn't want to see him out of touch.

01:15:20.220 Yeah.

01:15:20.500 And they don't know that it's going to be.

01:15:23.020 The tariffs have caused a lot of uncertainty.

01:15:25.440 And it's funny.

01:15:26.560 The market's obviously doing very well.

01:15:29.660 Employment's okay.

01:15:31.180 There are lots of signs of positive.

01:15:34.500 But between the uncertainty of the tariffs, the uncertainties of the Ukraine-Russia war,

01:15:38.620 and the fact that things just aren't clicking right now the way they would if growth were

01:15:43.380 higher.

01:15:43.800 What happens if the Democrats do take control of the House?

01:15:46.420 They're not going to win the Senate, but if they take control of the House.

01:15:49.060 What, as a practical matter, changes?

01:15:51.020 Because one of my frustrations, you know, the first nine months has been we've gotten

01:15:56.280 almost no legislation through.

01:15:58.240 You know, if you don't have 60 seats now in the Senate, you can't pass a bill.

01:16:03.500 That's why Trump's done it all by executive order.

01:16:05.540 And those executive orders have made a great change, but they're easily undone.

01:16:09.920 I think what changes is you'll all have to listen to Congressman Swalwell talk more.

01:16:16.260 Do we?

01:16:16.780 Yeah.

01:16:17.400 Is this the part we're going to swear?

01:16:18.800 Nah.

01:16:19.560 You should be.

01:16:21.480 What changes is they have majority gavels and they'll subpoena the administration for

01:16:26.360 everything.

01:16:28.200 But except for that, you're right.

01:16:29.360 They don't have 60 votes in the Senate.

01:16:30.620 So it's not going to derail the legislative agenda because there isn't one.

01:16:34.700 Let's spend a minute on media because you really have been everywhere.

01:16:38.320 You know everyone in media.

01:16:40.880 I got into media in 2003.

01:16:43.920 That was when I started working part-time at the ABC affiliate in Washington, D.C.

01:16:48.040 and I joined Fox News in August of 2004.

01:16:50.280 So it's been about 20 plus years.

01:16:52.840 You're a baby.

01:16:53.660 Yeah.

01:16:53.980 Okay.

01:16:54.720 Let's go with that.

01:16:57.320 Just in my time, I've seen such a dramatic change.

01:17:00.380 Just when I joined, it was nowhere near as biased and openly craven, at least in my experience.

01:17:08.140 That's how I saw it or didn't, versus today.

01:17:11.280 So what the hell happened?

01:17:14.060 Well, in my experience, it's been biased the whole time.

01:17:18.980 Certainly when my career started.

01:17:20.440 As badly as it is now?

01:17:21.480 Well, no, because Donald Trump supercharged it.

01:17:24.480 But the bias has always existed, in my experience, in working at big places, just to a shocking

01:17:29.400 degree.

01:17:29.960 And people say, oh, do they have a conspiracy?

01:17:31.980 It's not.

01:17:33.100 It's groupthink so intense that they don't need to have a meeting about it.

01:17:36.880 There's secret handshakes, but no meetings.

01:17:40.560 Donald Trump just, it's an incredible story how Trump derangement syndrome affected the

01:17:45.100 press, where they stopped being guardians of facts at all, and they just became openly

01:17:52.540 committed to stopping them.

01:17:53.580 And previously, democracy died in darkness.

01:17:56.240 Now, apparently, it dies in demolition.

01:17:57.800 And they're so upset.

01:17:59.860 He's right.

01:18:00.340 They're so upset about changing the White House grounds to build a building that every

01:18:05.160 president of both parties will tell you needs to be built.

01:18:07.500 Yes.

01:18:07.820 They're being honest.

01:18:08.280 That's the dirty little secret is that there was, that was reported someplace today where

01:18:11.460 they were saying former staffers of Obama and George W. Bush are privately admitting

01:18:16.100 we did need the ballroom.

01:18:17.500 Yeah.

01:18:17.840 It's embarrassing to have to set up tents when four dignitaries come.

01:18:22.160 The tents are bad enough.

01:18:23.260 Literally, a state dinners, they're using porta-potties.

01:18:26.760 It's ridiculous.

01:18:28.240 I mean, we're not necessarily the greatest country in the world, but I think we're great

01:18:32.220 enough to have heads of state use regular bathrooms.

01:18:34.820 Yeah.

01:18:35.020 We can move beyond Johnny on the spot.

01:18:36.440 Yeah.

01:18:36.820 Yeah.

01:18:39.480 I don't agree.

01:18:42.080 I don't think it was Trump.

01:18:43.400 I've said before, I think that the media committed suicide and Trump was their Kevorkian.

01:18:47.960 He gave him the machine.

01:18:48.980 He was like, here it is.

01:18:49.780 You can press the button and the cyanide goes and you'll be done.

01:18:52.480 And they were like, sure, let's do it.

01:18:54.680 Great.

01:18:55.400 Family-friendly metaphor.

01:18:57.560 But prior to that, they were already losing their minds.

01:19:01.980 And I mean, I worked at Fox News for 14 years.

01:19:05.320 I definitely think they had a role in it because when Fox came on and Roger accurately deduced

01:19:09.860 that there was media bias and it was all leftist, he said, we're going to be the antidote

01:19:13.300 to that, which is smart and the country needed it.

01:19:15.220 And it was such a huge success.

01:19:16.400 But rather than correcting, you know, rather than CNN and MSNBC and all the others looking

01:19:21.000 at Fox and saying, oh, God, he has a point.

01:19:22.860 You know, we should really get back to basics and try to call out the left-wing bias.

01:19:26.500 They doubled and tripled down on it.

01:19:28.240 So I do think it started happening in earnest on the left before Trump got there.

01:19:33.400 Well, there's no doubt that the success of Rush and then of Fox discombobulated them from

01:19:39.620 a business model point of view, but also from an editorial point of view.

01:19:43.040 I think you referenced this before, the biggest story in the United States and in Europe,

01:19:48.140 I think also, is the opening up of the exposure of the fraudulence of the liberal cultural

01:19:55.960 dominance in academia, corporate world, in Hollywood, in news, and education.

01:20:02.960 People can now discuss it openly in a way that's never happened in our lifetimes, at least.

01:20:07.320 And I think the arc of how we got to that point, partly it's what you said, but I don't

01:20:13.780 have any doubt that Trump's capacity to make them bonkers has led them to cash in any semblance

01:20:25.800 of a focus on fairness.

01:20:27.840 And the greatest example is the attempt to pretend that Joe Biden hadn't had cognitive

01:20:35.840 decline.

01:20:36.560 It's the biggest media scandal in American history, and it's a product not of love of

01:20:41.260 Joe Biden.

01:20:42.040 It's a product of an all-out attempt to keep Donald Trump from winning.

01:20:46.380 Hatred of Donald Trump.

01:20:47.660 Yeah.

01:20:48.160 The TDS is a real affliction.

01:20:50.860 And once you have the TDS, it's very hard to get out from under the TDS.

01:20:54.000 So, how does that affect the media when they don't have Trump to kick around any longer?

01:21:01.720 Well, your example inspires people in independent media because not only your great success financially

01:21:10.000 as a business model, but fearlessness to call things out.

01:21:14.500 They see that.

01:21:15.280 That's why CBS hired Barry, our friend Barry.

01:21:17.620 That's why the Washington Post is quietly trying to reform itself.

01:21:21.960 I think that anybody who tells you they know what politics or media will be like post-Trump,

01:21:27.460 don't believe them because none of us can really know for sure.

01:21:29.900 But what we do know is they now see the things you're doing as some things they have to try

01:21:38.400 to adopt.

01:21:39.500 Fearlessness, honesty, and a business model that actually sustains.

01:21:43.300 We'll see if they can do it post-Trump, but they're so discombobulated.

01:21:50.460 We'll see if J.D. carries on and makes them as discombobulated.

01:21:54.280 There's something magical about Donald Trump.

01:21:56.380 When Hillary Clinton has said when Bill Clinton dies, they should study his brain.

01:22:02.240 And I say when Donald Trump politically is done, we should study the brains of all these

01:22:06.980 people with TDS and try to figure out what's happened inside there.

01:22:11.540 And that'll give us some indication of whether this is going to continue or not.

01:22:14.820 It's like CTE.

01:22:16.080 Like once you have it, you don't get rid of it.

01:22:17.940 Then they really should be.

01:22:18.800 They should be studied.

01:22:19.560 My prediction is we won't even know that Trump is gone.

01:22:23.360 The next person, whether it's J.D. or Marco, whomever, will be treated as even worse than

01:22:28.100 Trump.

01:22:28.560 We miss the days of Donald Trump.

01:22:30.660 Little did we know there was another Hitler in the wings.

01:22:33.100 And now his name is J.D. and he even looks like the devil.

01:22:36.400 That's what we're going to get.

01:22:37.500 I spent the early parts of my career as a political reporter.

01:22:40.220 And for the last 10 years, I've basically been a therapist for all these people.

01:22:43.840 Yes.

01:22:44.260 To try to explain them, make them feel better.

01:22:46.880 I don't know how you talk to them the way you do.

01:22:49.280 I just, I feel the country needs to, people in MAGA need to understand them and they need

01:22:53.800 to understand MAGA.

01:22:55.060 And now it all revolves around them treating a construction site, pictures of a construction site,

01:23:01.820 as if Donald Trump had purposely bombed an orphanage.

01:23:05.080 Yes.

01:23:05.240 That's how they treat those pictures.

01:23:06.960 Yes.

01:23:07.480 They say, they just, that's how you take down a building.

01:23:10.000 They didn't destroy it.

01:23:11.440 They took it down like you do.

01:23:13.260 Right.

01:23:13.400 They want to build a new building.

01:23:14.220 They're going to build a new building with new walls.

01:23:15.900 Yeah.

01:23:15.940 Everything will be fine.

01:23:16.900 Yeah.

01:23:17.040 We'll be twirling on the dance floor in no time at all, Mark.

01:23:19.440 Right.

01:23:19.460 Right.

01:23:19.600 I look forward to it.

01:23:20.180 Yeah.

01:23:20.860 Thank you so much.

01:23:21.420 Thank you.

01:23:21.920 Great to be here.

01:23:22.440 Great to see you all.

01:23:23.460 Mark Halbert, everybody.

01:23:25.140 Isn't he great?

01:23:26.980 Thank you.

01:23:28.400 Good job.

01:23:29.040 Good job.

01:23:31.820 Here, I'll take that.

01:23:33.280 There we go.

01:23:34.200 There we go.

01:23:36.340 You always learn something from Mark, don't you?

01:23:39.420 Calls it straight.

01:23:40.680 It's very rare to find that in today's day and age.

01:23:43.040 I don't know.

01:23:43.200 Do you think I'm right about, they'll make J.D. into even worse, like a new, even worse

01:23:48.160 Hitler?

01:23:48.680 It's already starting.

01:23:49.920 There's like little pieces of, oh, J.D. advances even worse than I thought he was,

01:23:53.320 because they can feel him coming.

01:23:55.000 All right.

01:23:55.420 Without further ado, speaking of people who are from hometown Texas, you know who my next guest

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01:24:01.820 He's a legend.

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01:24:06.380 But Glenn Beck and I met back when I was at Fox News.

01:24:10.540 And I was actually at Fox before Glenn.

01:24:12.300 He was over on CNN Headline News, because his radio show got picked up as a CNN show as

01:24:17.380 well.

01:24:18.460 And he was interesting on Headline News.

01:24:21.620 Sometimes I'd put on the show and listen to him, and he was a conservative guy, a smart

01:24:24.400 guy, always very well-researched, loved America, was very patriotic.

01:24:27.960 That was very clear.

01:24:28.640 And then he came over to Fox and was literally the most dynamic, interesting thing most of

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01:24:38.060 I don't know.

01:24:38.640 Glenn just decided to let his freak flag fly and went for it on Fox News.

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01:24:50.740 And then, after just two years, he left.

01:24:55.780 Why?

01:24:57.020 Does anyone actually know the answer?

01:24:59.100 We're about to ask him.

01:24:59.940 And rather than just leaving and fading off into the sunset, and Glenn had plenty of money

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01:25:15.900 This is back in 2012, 2013, right around there.

01:25:18.600 But Glenn saw a seam in the story and said, I can exploit that.

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01:25:29.400 And that's when Blaze was born, his new company was born, and Glenn has been crushing it in

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01:27:55.860 We live in a time where outrage is easy and thinking is really hard.

01:28:07.740 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:28:09.420 Put your politics aside.

01:28:10.920 Open up your ears and your eyes and watch with a fresh perspective.

01:28:15.100 Let me explain this to you.

01:28:17.000 Using this boiling water here and these little frogs.

01:28:21.760 Stand up and take your pledge.

01:28:23.820 I will get things done for America.

01:28:27.200 I feel like President Obama is just saying, you know what?

01:28:31.100 I've got that $3.5 trillion budget that we're doing, you know.

01:28:35.720 Is this cold?

01:28:36.820 Yes.

01:28:37.500 I left arguably at the height, which was crazy insane.

01:28:42.260 You can leave and come online and have total freedom.

01:28:47.580 Total freedom.

01:28:48.880 And have a real impact.

01:28:50.160 Until the average American will stand up and go, yeah, no, that's a dude.

01:28:57.120 He's just calling himself a woman.

01:28:59.320 You cannot import 10 million third world refugees.

01:29:03.820 They don't even have to say, I love America.

01:29:06.040 Why do you think they hate Donald Trump so much?

01:29:08.840 It is because of America first.

01:29:11.860 We're going to do what's right for America.

01:29:14.740 Yes.

01:29:17.580 Give it up, everybody, for Glenn Beck.

01:29:19.360 I'm going to sit like Donald Trump does.

01:29:43.980 Spread them, Dano.

01:29:45.860 Glenn Beck is not only a great broadcaster, but he is a good man.

01:29:52.680 You can't say that out of every way.

01:29:53.900 We've been friends for 15, 16 years now, Dan?

01:29:56.760 A long time.

01:29:58.760 And the dynamic presentation you brought to Fox News literally changed news.

01:30:05.020 You were on everyone's mind.

01:30:07.840 Everyone wanted the kind of attention that you were getting.

01:30:09.900 I was making fun of cable news.

01:30:14.740 That's what I was doing.

01:30:15.720 People didn't get that.

01:30:17.040 I remember CNN asked me to join them.

01:30:20.060 And I went up because my agent said it's good practice.

01:30:24.480 Because I'm like, I'm not working at CNN.

01:30:26.880 And we're sitting there.

01:30:28.980 And they said to me, remember this big, long, it was like a movie, this big, long table with all the executives standing behind it.

01:30:35.800 Or sitting behind it.

01:30:37.340 And he said, I don't understand why you wouldn't want to come and work in cable news.

01:30:42.940 And he looked at him and I said, have you watched cable news?

01:30:47.140 It's terrible.

01:30:47.840 It's awful.

01:30:48.760 It's horrible.

01:30:49.280 It's awful.

01:30:49.700 And they, to some extent, let me create what I wanted to create.

01:30:55.500 And then Roger saw the success of it over there and brought me over to Fox.

01:30:59.900 And we had the same kind of agreement that, you know, if I'm going to torch the entire network, stop me, please.

01:31:12.180 But he was like, I trust you.

01:31:14.820 And I trusted him on what the network was doing.

01:31:17.140 And we had a great time.

01:31:19.140 You were so fun to watch.

01:31:21.740 And you are, were then, and remain, such a good teacher.

01:31:25.500 Right?

01:31:26.140 Like, when Glenn takes on a difficult issue, he can walk you through it such that you really understand it like nobody else.

01:31:32.540 And when you get the double blackboard out, it's like nothing else.

01:31:35.840 There's nobody who can do the double blackboard better than you can.

01:31:39.220 And at Fox, you truly became a juggernaut.

01:31:42.980 Number one show.

01:31:44.480 All the attention.

01:31:45.780 Millions of articles written about you.

01:31:47.180 So, I saw you one time.

01:31:48.900 I mentioned this.

01:31:49.920 I remember you came to see me in my office because we were going to talk about your book.

01:31:52.700 And I was going to write something for it.

01:31:54.640 And you had like six body cards because you also became a huge target.

01:32:00.180 How did that change your life?

01:32:01.440 You know, before I went to Fox, I knew it was going to change my life.

01:32:06.920 Not as much as it did.

01:32:09.260 We had already had death threats before, but not like that.

01:32:13.840 And not organized.

01:32:14.880 Not really paid for by the Soros people and the left.

01:32:20.700 I mean, they spent a lot of money doing that.

01:32:23.180 The only thing that mattered to me was a conversation that I had with my two eldest daughters and my wife before we went.

01:32:32.160 But the night before I gave Roger his answer of whether I would come to Fox, I sat down and I said,

01:32:37.720 this is going to change our lives in ways we can't imagine.

01:32:43.340 And I just want my two children to look me in the eye and say,

01:32:50.420 you will always remember me for who I actually am, not what people are going to say about me.

01:32:58.100 That's very wise.

01:32:59.700 I've had that conversation with my own kids, too.

01:33:01.900 It's hard.

01:33:02.380 I say, here are the terrible things they say about me.

01:33:05.740 You should see what they say.

01:33:07.760 And then if people will stop me on the street and say, oh, I'm a big fan or whatever,

01:33:11.500 I say, you see that?

01:33:12.760 There are a lot more of those people than there are of those people.

01:33:15.560 And you remember that whenever you say something terrible.

01:33:17.140 That's the only thing that matters.

01:33:19.780 I'm such a big fan of Rush Limbaugh.

01:33:25.900 Yeah.

01:33:27.980 The greatest.

01:33:28.800 But once his audience dies out, this should give all of us that do what we do perspective.

01:33:34.880 When his audience dies out, he will just fade back into the background of humanity.

01:33:42.440 He's really important for this.

01:33:45.400 And the things that he taught and changed will have ripple effects.

01:33:49.420 But the name will go away.

01:33:51.660 Very few people are actually remembered.

01:33:54.820 Charlie Kirk will be remembered for decades to come.

01:33:58.800 You know, you're kind of touching on, I call it my Paul Newman theory of life.

01:34:06.540 My Paul Newman theory of life is as follows.

01:34:08.840 You can do pretty much everything right.

01:34:11.500 You can get married to the person you love.

01:34:13.880 You can have kids who you really adore and raise them right.

01:34:16.860 You can make it in, you know, sort of a dream business,

01:34:19.740 which is what the film business was when Paul Newman was in it.

01:34:22.080 You know, when celebrity actually knew to keep themselves scarce and still a mystery and really coveted.

01:34:27.140 You can have a genuine love affair.

01:34:29.420 Those two talked about wanting to jump in the sack with each other all the way through their entire long marriage and lives.

01:34:34.660 Seem to really be hot for each other and love each other all the way through.

01:34:37.720 You can then, on top of an amazing film career,

01:34:40.300 form a charitable company that literally gives hundreds of millions of dollars to charity.

01:34:44.080 And then it still ends.

01:34:48.260 And time will roll on.

01:34:50.820 And our kids won't really know who Paul Newman is.

01:34:54.520 And the point of that is not to depress you, but it's to make you understand.

01:34:59.420 Make your time count here in the way that's meaningful to you.

01:35:03.980 Because it's not, you can play it perfectly like a Paul Newman.

01:35:07.280 And we're all still going to the same place.

01:35:10.420 Ideally, we're crossing over and going to a better place.

01:35:13.200 But as far as our time here on this earth, like, if you don't value your own life and approach it lovingly

01:35:18.500 and surround yourself with the things that matter, nothing's going to fill you up.

01:35:22.060 And having some lasting legacy is not going to make it any better.

01:35:25.840 No, there's no such thing as that.

01:35:27.240 There is, if you're not doing things that have an eternal consequence, why are you doing them?

01:35:38.100 Um, we, we, we need to understand.

01:35:41.440 And, you know, as I, I just had a birthday recently and I turned old and.

01:35:46.600 What is old?

01:35:51.220 But I, but it changes your perspective.

01:35:53.680 My kids just moved out of the house.

01:35:55.400 I have all my four kids are out of the house now.

01:35:57.440 Um, and Tanya, yeah, I know, right?

01:36:00.300 Do you know his kids?

01:36:01.980 Why are you cheering?

01:36:02.860 Um, but I, uh, uh, you, you start to put things into perspective and you realize the

01:36:11.280 only thing that really matters is your kids and your family.

01:36:13.980 That's it.

01:36:14.740 It really is.

01:36:15.960 That's right.

01:36:16.380 You know, that old saying, never were on the deathbed saying, I wish I spent more time

01:36:19.860 at work.

01:36:20.180 That is actually, I'm sick of hearing it, but it's actually very true.

01:36:23.920 And if we don't, if we can figure this out earlier than when you turn old, the better

01:36:31.520 society will be that if we just do the right things and we live our lives, striving to be

01:36:39.580 better tomorrow than we are today for eternal reasons, not our eternal reasons, his eternal

01:36:46.820 reasons and the ripple effect that comes from that, the whole world changes.

01:36:51.840 Charlie is the one man, he, he came up to me, he was like 15 years old and he said something

01:36:57.520 that I've had a million people say, you know, uh, I want to do what you do.

01:37:02.460 I want to, I want to have the network and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:37:05.460 And what they're always saying, and I know this, what they're always saying is I want to

01:37:09.940 be like Rush Limbaugh, not me, Rush Limbaugh.

01:37:12.600 And when Charlie said that to me, I said, well, what I always do, if I can help you in

01:37:19.120 any way, I will.

01:37:20.760 If you need mentorship, just call me.

01:37:22.740 I'm, I'm available at any time.

01:37:24.720 I'll be watching you.

01:37:26.380 Charlie is the only one that I saw every time I saw him, he was smarter than he was the last

01:37:33.440 time, more well-read, um, had learned some new skill and was a better, deeper Christian

01:37:41.600 and man than he was the time before last.

01:37:45.600 And I realized, I mean, he really put me to shame.

01:37:50.740 I try really hard, but he put me absolutely to shame and I have doubled my efforts to, we

01:37:57.060 have to live every single moment.

01:38:00.080 Like it is our last moment doing the things we want to instead of, instead of like, I'll

01:38:06.000 get to that tomorrow, I have piled up so many empty yesterdays by saying, I'll do it tomorrow.

01:38:13.220 Do it now, whatever it is and, and learn something new today.

01:38:18.360 Do something new, be a better person.

01:38:20.740 It doesn't, your past does not matter.

01:38:23.460 It doesn't matter.

01:38:24.480 It only matters up here in your head.

01:38:27.260 Stop that old tape, get all of that crap out of your head, reconcile with it and move on

01:38:33.960 and be the person you were born to be.

01:38:37.380 We are so fortunate to be born today, to live today.

01:38:41.700 It's, it's the worst of times and it is the best of times.

01:38:45.860 And, and we're the one, if you happen to believe, you know, uh, the end of the book, which I

01:38:52.000 do, we're possibly the generation that has been selected to pave the way for the return

01:38:58.180 of the savior.

01:38:59.380 People have wanted that forever.

01:39:02.540 I spent my whole life going, you can wait.

01:39:05.040 I mean, I, there's no rush on that one.

01:39:07.440 That's, it gets scary there towards the end, but we, that means we've been selected to live

01:39:14.160 at this time, out of all the souls that have lived, we've been selected.

01:39:19.020 There's no, there's nobody that's just here without a purpose.

01:39:24.320 Find your purpose, find what it is that you're supposed to be doing to build a better kingdom

01:39:31.040 and do it every single day.

01:39:33.360 Cause the Lord, even if your life is cut short, the Lord will work miracles with your life.

01:39:40.180 Yeah.

01:39:40.580 That's clearly what happened with Charlie.

01:39:42.260 It is.

01:39:44.160 So speaking of building it, so you left Fox after a couple of years.

01:39:50.520 I mean, it just feels like you were there for 10 years.

01:39:52.020 You know, you did so much and so much happened, but you left after a couple of years.

01:39:56.520 Why?

01:39:57.160 What happened there?

01:39:58.840 So Bill O'Reilly said to me when I was first, I first came, he set me down.

01:40:03.760 Um, and he's like, dude, you got to slow down.

01:40:06.240 You got to slow down.

01:40:07.000 You've got, you've got two decades here.

01:40:08.980 And I'm like, I'm gone in two years.

01:40:10.440 And he said, what?

01:40:12.500 And I said, I'm, I don't want, this is not what I grew up wanting to do.

01:40:17.120 I'm using this, you know, as a, uh, launching pad.

01:40:21.300 And I believe we're in trouble and I believe we have to say these things, but this is not

01:40:26.300 what I want to do.

01:40:27.120 And he said, you're crazy.

01:40:29.180 You could stay forever.

01:40:30.140 Two years later, we're negotiating and Roger Ailes absolutely believed that I was negotiating

01:40:36.860 and, uh, going back and forth and then everything that was happening in the press and everything

01:40:41.720 else.

01:40:42.400 The last thing Roger Ailes said to me as I walked out the door, because we had a decent relationship.

01:40:47.740 I mean, you know, I didn't know all about his personal life, et cetera, et cetera, but

01:40:51.700 we had this connection on performance and television and the craft of television.

01:40:58.000 And, um, I remember him sitting in his chair.

01:41:01.340 Did he ask you to twirl?

01:41:02.540 He did not.

01:41:03.520 Good.

01:41:03.940 And I was actually kind of hurt after I found out everything.

01:41:06.580 I'm pretty sexy, dude.

01:41:09.680 Um, but, uh, I remember him sitting in his chair and as I'm walking out, I said, thank

01:41:14.900 you very much, Mr. Ailes.

01:41:15.980 It's been, it's been enjoyable.

01:41:17.660 I've learned a lot.

01:41:18.420 And he said, he shook his head and he said, come on, you're not actually going to do that

01:41:25.620 internet thing, are you?

01:41:29.020 And I said, I am, I believe it's the future.

01:41:33.200 And he said, mark my words, the internet is a fad.

01:41:39.160 Wow.

01:41:40.760 Wow.

01:41:41.360 Yeah.

01:41:41.920 You know what I think just having known him is he didn't believe that he was just trying

01:41:46.680 to convince you of that so that you'd stay because he was worried.

01:41:50.820 He was very worried about Google and he was worried about like the online presences coming

01:41:55.040 and stealing our audience and his talent.

01:41:58.340 So he, and he was a genius.

01:41:59.800 So I feel like he probably did see the threat.

01:42:01.520 He was just trying to convince you there was no there, there, so he'd stay.

01:42:04.520 Well, I mean, when we, when I left, you know, you said almost nobody was doing it.

01:42:09.180 Literally no one was doing it.

01:42:11.000 Wasn't Joe Rogan doing it?

01:42:12.940 Uh, Joe Rogan was doing, um, a podcast kind of thing, but not what we were doing.

01:42:18.840 No one was doing a live network.

01:42:20.860 Nobody had ever tried.

01:42:22.480 We had to build our backbone on the back of major league baseball.

01:42:26.720 They were the only people that had pioneered all of the infrastructure to do a subscription

01:42:33.100 live network.

01:42:34.980 So we, we started it and it was frightening, but the reason why I started it, Megan, and

01:42:41.680 you know this, cause I've, I mean, I was, I was writing you when you were going through

01:42:46.100 your crap at NBC and the stuff at the end of Fox and your whole journey.

01:42:51.580 I, I always had my back.

01:42:53.520 I've always believed in you.

01:42:55.540 I've always seen your talent and I've always said, get out of there.

01:42:59.940 Uh, and the reason why I started the blaze was to demonstrate, cause I remember one of

01:43:08.500 the last things I said on Fox was a message to the left.

01:43:13.020 There will come a day when you thrill at the idea of me on only at 5 PM on weekdays.

01:43:22.880 They didn't understand what I understood.

01:43:25.860 If somebody goes in and plants their flag and can make it a success, you will follow.

01:43:33.260 Tucker will follow.

01:43:34.660 Ben Shapiro will follow.

01:43:36.340 Look, we have successfully, we're this close to successfully putting the mainstream media

01:43:43.480 out.

01:43:44.060 Out of business.

01:43:44.820 Out.

01:43:45.200 That's right.

01:43:47.000 Think of, I've never really considered it like that, but if we said to today's left, if you

01:43:53.020 could make wave your magic wand and put me back at 9 AM on NBC, they would versus leave

01:44:00.220 me where I am now, they'd put me back there in two seconds.

01:44:03.500 Because what they were saying at the time was you want to say those things.

01:44:07.080 You can't say those on network television.

01:44:09.160 You go on the internet and you do a podcast.

01:44:11.720 They didn't understand the power of the podcast.

01:44:15.500 They didn't understand.

01:44:16.420 They had no vision at all.

01:44:19.000 So you were not like them.

01:44:20.900 You truly were a trailblazer.

01:44:22.820 You start the blaze.

01:44:23.880 And I just want to read the audience a couple of stats about the blaze, okay?

01:44:29.100 These are people who come out of the blaze hall of fame.

01:44:31.280 People who you know who are everyday names, household names, who started at the blaze.

01:44:35.340 Will Cain.

01:44:36.760 Lawrence Jones.

01:44:37.940 Buck Sexton.

01:44:39.020 Dana Lash.

01:44:40.240 Pete Hegseth.

01:44:41.740 Allie Beth Stuckey.

01:44:43.180 And the great Stupor Gear, who we love.

01:44:45.160 Mercury One, your group that you've used to do incredible works, has raised over $250 million

01:44:52.980 to help the homeless.

01:44:55.080 100% of funds go downrange.

01:44:57.680 Rescued over 12,000 people from Afghanistan.

01:44:59.760 That was incredible what you did.

01:45:01.140 Very brave.

01:45:03.140 Rebuilt over 300 homes in North Carolina after Hurricane Helene went through.

01:45:07.340 Dropped over 300,000 pounds of supplies in western North Carolina.

01:45:10.340 Now still rebuilding in Hawaii after the wildfires.

01:45:13.560 Helped rebuild homes destroyed by the floods in Texas Hill Country.

01:45:16.320 One of the largest collections of American historical artifacts outside of the Smithsonian,

01:45:20.300 which we're going to see a couple things from tonight.

01:45:23.280 And that leads me to some news that I believe you have to make tonight.

01:45:30.300 Because you're at another crossroads, Glenn.

01:45:32.580 And you're going to share it for the first time here.

01:45:34.540 So, I have been watching AI since the 90s.

01:45:40.320 I've been talking about AI.

01:45:41.920 And I read Ray Kurzweil's book, The Age of Spiritual Machines, back in the late 90s.

01:45:47.800 And it opened my eyes to the problems that AI is going to cause.

01:45:55.360 It's not enough just to talk about the problems.

01:45:57.980 Because AI is both the worst thing that could happen to humanity,

01:46:04.640 but it is at the same time one of the best things that could happen to us.

01:46:09.800 As long as we remember it's a tool.

01:46:13.280 Right now, things like ChatGPT, people are just using it to think for them.

01:46:18.680 That won't help you.

01:46:21.460 That will hurt you in the end.

01:46:22.560 But companies are using AI to reduce the workload.

01:46:27.740 Instead of looking at it and saying, wait a minute, I have a team now of researchers.

01:46:33.060 But now, if we ethically use it and we know how to build AI,

01:46:38.320 my team will have a team of researchers.

01:46:41.520 So, we can go deeper, faster, much broader.

01:46:45.020 We can quadruple our output in quality.

01:46:49.760 But you have to know how to use it.

01:46:51.720 And so, about a year and a half ago, I was noodling all of these things.

01:46:57.840 And I was looking at how busy I am in producing shows for the Blaze, on the Blaze.

01:47:04.300 And I wanted to shift and do other things.

01:47:09.320 So, I have decided that the Blaze, for me at least, mission accomplished.

01:47:17.160 The Blaze is healthier than it's ever been.

01:47:19.500 Again, they have really amazing announcements of some new talent that is coming on board.

01:47:24.980 I won't be leaving the Blaze technically.

01:47:28.320 They will still be doing my show at 9 a.m.

01:47:31.680 But I am starting a new company.

01:47:35.580 And my new company, I hope, what I help do to the mainstream media,

01:47:42.160 I hope to do that to our mainstream education process.

01:47:50.060 How?

01:47:50.700 So, I'm going to be focused on two things.

01:47:55.800 My new venture, it's called The Torch.

01:47:59.180 Kind of like an offshoot of the Blaze.

01:48:00.540 Love it, yes.

01:48:01.100 And it is my attempt to spend the last, you know, maybe 15 years, 20 years of my career doing a couple of things.

01:48:16.460 One, education.

01:48:17.900 I started collecting in 2008 on a prompting from God, I felt.

01:48:24.280 And it has led to us now having the largest collection of founding documents.

01:48:31.240 The only ones that beat us is the National Archives and the Library of Congress.

01:48:36.340 It's amazing.

01:48:36.700 Now, I have the largest collection also of documents and artifacts from the Mayflower and Jamestown.

01:48:45.380 And we actually convinced the guy who wanted it, collected it his whole life,

01:48:50.580 and wanted to give it to the Smithsonian, or sell it to the Smithsonian.

01:48:55.080 We talked to him and said, you see what's going on, right?

01:48:59.040 And an institution in the government, they can remove documents and vault them,

01:49:04.660 and you don't know the history.

01:49:06.040 They cannot own all of the documents and then be the arbiter of truth.

01:49:11.000 You have to have an outside source.

01:49:14.440 So he sold that collection to me for half the price he was going to sell it to the Smithsonian for.

01:49:21.560 So I have spent, with an amazing team, literally working 24 hours, depending on which hemisphere,

01:49:28.380 working 24 hours a day, we have been digitizing every single document, every artifact.

01:49:38.140 We have then put it through an AI vectoring system.

01:49:43.760 You know, remember when you used to have to be exact on your question?

01:49:47.040 And you would have to ask the question, like, ah, it would give you the wrong answer,

01:49:49.660 and you'd have to be exact.

01:49:50.440 In fact, now, through vectoring, each word has 250 different meanings.

01:49:56.440 And so it checks each word 250 different directions, so it understands what you're asking.

01:50:03.540 We've built an electric fence around our server farm, and so nothing can come into it,

01:50:10.540 and only what we have in there can go out.

01:50:13.380 It's going to make it super easy for people to search.

01:50:15.120 It's not going to be a hassle to figure out.

01:50:16.540 It's not just search.

01:50:17.740 It will now be able, you'll be able to say, what did the founders talk about?

01:50:21.940 Did they ever talk about abortion?

01:50:23.820 Not only will you get the answer, you will see the documents,

01:50:27.340 you will see the sermons that they listen to at the time.

01:50:30.380 Then you will also be able to say, I want to teach this to my kids,

01:50:34.580 but my kid is eight years old.

01:50:36.340 It will then say, in what form?

01:50:40.120 I want a podcast.

01:50:41.860 I want, in fact, I have 12 minutes in the car driving them to school,

01:50:45.320 and I want them to learn the Constitution from the founder's point of view.

01:50:50.020 And I only have 12 minutes.

01:50:52.340 Please develop a series of podcasts for me that will teach the Constitution to my eight-year-old.

01:50:59.340 Then at the end of each episode, it will ask the student questions just to see,

01:51:04.900 did you really connect with that?

01:51:06.920 Did you understand it?

01:51:07.980 And if not, it automatically changes episode number two to re-present what was in one.

01:51:14.580 So you have now...

01:51:15.540 It's like a dream.

01:51:16.940 You could only go from a teacher in a school, but you would never get.

01:51:20.460 I want to get back to this in a minute, but while I have you,

01:51:23.260 I've got to ask about some news of the day.

01:51:26.240 Because I'm very excited about your project, and I think there's a need for it.

01:51:29.460 You've done great things at The Blaze.

01:51:31.460 I'm very happy your show's not going away.

01:51:33.040 But this is additive, and it's a gift to us all.

01:51:38.740 There's a debate going on in the industry that you've spent your life working in,

01:51:42.560 which is conservative media.

01:51:44.880 And it's really kind of dominating the conversation right now.

01:51:47.480 Our pals over at The Daily Wire had a long debate about it the other day internally,

01:51:51.160 and they were very divided.

01:51:52.660 You know, Ben felt one way.

01:51:54.160 I feel like Knowles and Matt Walsh felt a different way.

01:51:57.200 Clavin was with Ben.

01:51:58.340 Again, online, everybody's having this discussion, and it is,

01:52:03.320 are we the party of people on the right who believe no enemies to the right?

01:52:08.580 You know, no enemies to the right of me.

01:52:10.140 I don't criticize people on the right.

01:52:11.760 My battle is with those on the left, and that's where I'm going to focus all my ire.

01:52:15.320 Or are we the party of, no, some people need to be excised.

01:52:19.340 Bill Buckley-type National Review, back at the heyday of NR's power,

01:52:24.500 saying, Pat Buchanan, you're out because we think you're an anti-Semite, etc.

01:52:29.140 How do you see it today?

01:52:33.080 I want to be really careful because we are talking about dividing,

01:52:38.000 and division is really bad, but it is necessary at times.

01:52:43.680 And I don't know if everybody knows exactly what you're talking about,

01:52:48.140 but there is a moving and growing movement inside the right

01:52:54.420 that is extraordinarily, unreasonably anti-Semitic.

01:53:00.720 And it's not just anti-Semitic.

01:53:03.240 It is also perverting the entire system.

01:53:08.080 Look, our system has real problems, but we cannot throw the baby out with the bathwater.

01:53:14.920 I ask people all the time, is America a good place or a bad place?

01:53:20.140 That's what they always answer.

01:53:21.640 It's neither.

01:53:22.720 It's neither.

01:53:23.420 It's good and bad.

01:53:24.780 We have done horrible things, and we've done miraculous things.

01:53:28.340 The question is, which direction are we going?

01:53:31.520 Are we giving up on it and saying, you know, it's too bad, it's irreplaceable,

01:53:36.480 I mean, it's unfixable, we've just got to replace it?

01:53:39.620 Or are we saying, these are the problems we've learned from history,

01:53:43.880 here's how we fix them so we can be a more perfect nation and be better every day.

01:53:49.360 Forget about the past, learn from it, put it away, and grow and get better every day.

01:53:55.300 That's what we need to do.

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01:55:16.720 Islam is on the rise here in America.

01:55:20.920 Thomas Jefferson said, after we fought the Barbary pirates, nobody had the stomach for it,

01:55:26.280 and he said, I want everyone in America to read the Quran.

01:55:29.880 Not highlights, the Quran.

01:55:31.880 He had one printed in English.

01:55:33.760 First time it was printed in America.

01:55:35.700 Printed in English.

01:55:37.220 And he wanted everybody to read it.

01:55:38.920 He said, because if we don't fight this now, mark my words, it is our first foreign war,

01:55:48.340 and it will be America's last foreign war.

01:55:53.160 They are serious.

01:55:55.700 The Sharia law thing.

01:55:57.280 Look, I have friends who are Muslim that are not that.

01:56:00.180 There are plenty of Muslims who are completely Americanized.

01:56:03.300 They do not wish to force their religion on anybody.

01:56:05.860 Correct.

01:56:06.040 Nor take down our tenets of free speech and separation of church and state.

01:56:10.040 But there are plenty of Muslims who do not feel that way.

01:56:12.960 Exactly right.

01:56:13.860 And they have control in Dearborn, Michigan, and in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

01:56:18.560 Texas leads the nation.

01:56:21.440 Texas leads the nation.

01:56:23.800 You're going to be hearing a lot about this, Texas, but we are leading the nation in the

01:56:29.140 Islamification of our country.

01:56:31.100 Let me tell you something.

01:56:32.020 New York's about to give you a run for your money.

01:56:34.060 Yeah.

01:56:34.260 Here is Zoran Mamdani, who is about to become the New York City mayor, if you believe the

01:56:41.120 polls, and I do, who, knowing that this is an issue for some New Yorkers, because we were

01:56:47.580 attacked by radical Muslims on 9-11, killed 3,000 Americans, starting at the World Trade

01:56:52.220 Center, knowing that this is an issue for some, and that New York is not a majority Muslim

01:56:57.080 town, it's about 9% Muslim, and knowing all of that, decided, even post the two presidential

01:57:02.560 or mayoral debates, to go on camera at a mosque and pull the following shit when talking about

01:57:11.320 9-11.

01:57:12.220 This is this week.

01:57:13.900 Here's the soundbite.

01:57:14.720 Watch.

01:57:14.960 I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City.

01:57:25.540 I want to speak to the memory of my aunt.

01:57:28.060 Who stopped taking the subway after September 11th, because she did not feel safe in her

01:57:38.360 hijab.

01:57:38.740 His thought, in recalling 9-11, was to feel sorry for his aunt, who allegedly felt uncomfortable

01:57:51.460 wearing her hijab on the subway.

01:57:53.720 Not a word for the 3,000 dead Americans.

01:57:58.160 Not a word.

01:57:59.980 And this guy is about to win, Glenn.

01:58:02.540 What you're going to see in America, and in Texas, please pay attention to this.

01:58:10.120 What you're going to see is what's happening over in Europe.

01:58:13.400 Europe is, I mean, this is one of the things the students at University of North Dakota said

01:58:18.240 to me.

01:58:19.060 All of these immigrants are coming because of the wars of the Jews.

01:58:24.580 What wars of the Jews?

01:58:26.280 What is happening in the Middle East that is causing men and young men to leave their home,

01:58:32.180 leave their mom and their sisters behind, and all move en masse all around the world.

01:58:38.480 There is no war like that.

01:58:40.200 These are not refugees.

01:58:42.580 This is an invasion.

01:58:45.220 They are coming into our countries, and they are setting up no-go zones all throughout Europe.

01:58:51.160 We are about to lose France and Germany and Sweden and England.

01:58:57.420 England.

01:58:57.580 We did a story two weeks ago with a GB News correspondent, Anchor, talking about how in

01:59:05.600 some towns now in Great Britain, they are objecting to the British flag flying because

01:59:11.100 they feel it's triggering for members of the Muslim community.

01:59:15.540 They don't want to have to see the flag of the country to which they've moved.

01:59:19.180 This, I'm sorry, it's one of those things where if Charlie called it, others have predicted

01:59:25.360 it, Norm MacDonald infamously said, oh gee, it would be a terrible thing if we had another

01:59:28.640 ISIS attack that killed tens of millions of Americans with a dirty bomb because that would

01:59:33.120 really drive up Islamophobia, right?

01:59:36.060 Where if you speak out about this, you will be called a bigot.

01:59:39.420 You are 100% going to be called a bigot by the Zoran.

01:59:41.820 Stand in line.

01:59:42.660 Stand in line.

01:59:43.560 Stand in line.

01:59:43.900 I would be called worse.

01:59:45.040 Stand in line.

01:59:45.580 We have to fight for our culture because truly, to Islamicize America is to lose America.

01:59:52.600 The values are not consistent.

01:59:55.120 You cannot move from Judeo-Christian values and still have America.

01:59:59.920 All of our documents, and believe me, you can argue with me, I'll take you to the library

02:00:05.460 and I'll show it to you in their own writing.

02:00:08.080 This is a nation that was based on the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament, period.

02:00:14.260 Yes.

02:00:14.740 You erase that, you're done.

02:00:16.740 You're done.

02:00:19.860 All of our principles, all of our principles, I don't remember who was saying it tonight,

02:00:24.560 you know, about, you know, being Christian.

02:00:28.100 One of the questions, how can you be Christian?

02:00:30.900 How do you fight about, you know, you're not Christian if, you know, you're not helping

02:00:35.460 the illegals come in.

02:00:36.380 That the liberalism is consistent with Christianity instead of conservative.

02:00:39.100 Right.

02:00:39.180 Here it is.

02:00:40.940 Let's just think.

02:00:42.160 How do you help?

02:00:43.800 You want to, Vatican?

02:00:46.140 I tell you what.

02:00:47.300 Take your wall down and then open all of the doors to the Pope's house and everything else

02:00:54.920 and let people come in who are not Catholics just to use and abuse anything and everything

02:01:02.260 and then try to tell you, you got to take that crucifix down because it's offensive to

02:01:07.140 me and my religion.

02:01:08.300 The Pope would never do it, nor should we.

02:01:12.220 Yeah.

02:01:13.360 Yes.

02:01:15.880 They're really, it's amazing to me that New York's about to do this.

02:01:19.860 I mean, of all cities in the world, the city that was attacked on 9-11, that they're about

02:01:23.700 to do this and Zoran Bandhani is not your average, just typical.

02:01:27.000 He's a world full in sheep's clothing.

02:01:28.960 He has the million dollar smile.

02:01:30.420 He's got this sweet, soft affect.

02:01:32.260 But this guy, if you hear him before he actually became the front runner for mayor, was sounding

02:01:36.440 very radical about how important his number one issue was the Palestinians and making sure

02:01:42.460 that the boycott from Israel movement was on the mind of every single New Yorker and

02:01:47.240 getting more and more Muslims into positions of power in New York so that they could change

02:01:51.180 policy.

02:01:51.680 He spends all his time at these mosques.

02:01:53.900 I mean, we've seen this.

02:01:54.800 We've seen in places like Dearborn and places like Minneapolis now, the call to prayer is

02:01:59.020 being broadcast over loudspeakers on the streets at all hours of the day.

02:02:03.780 And you're walking your kids to school and you are listening to Allahu Akbar as every,

02:02:09.140 this is, we are crossing over to a place, especially thanks to the influx of 11 million

02:02:14.020 illegals, thanks to Joe Biden, where our country's starting to look and feel very different, including

02:02:19.200 when it comes to core values, Glenn.

02:02:21.060 So here's the easiest thing you could do.

02:02:24.200 Start having children.

02:02:26.820 Yes.

02:02:27.780 Start having big families.

02:02:30.420 Go home tonight.

02:02:32.300 Think of her, not me.

02:02:33.860 And go for it.

02:02:37.100 It's so true, though.

02:02:38.580 It is.

02:02:38.660 I only wish I had met Doug younger so we could have had more children.

02:02:41.860 I wish I'd had several more.

02:02:43.280 You know, I didn't want children when I was young.

02:02:44.980 But I was an old lady.

02:02:45.080 I had Thatcher when I was 42.

02:02:46.520 God kind of cuts you off at a certain point.

02:02:49.440 I didn't want children when I was young and I have four and I wish I had eight or 10 or

02:02:55.080 12.

02:02:55.500 But we're not, I mentioned this thing, we're not doing that.

02:02:57.500 You know what we're doing?

02:02:58.360 We're creating laws in places like New Jersey now where you can abort your baby up to 34

02:03:02.920 weeks.

02:03:04.000 Culture of death.

02:03:07.100 This is what we're fighting.

02:03:09.080 Forget Islam.

02:03:10.620 Forget the left.

02:03:12.640 Forget socialism.

02:03:13.720 Forget there's one umbrella term, culture of death.

02:03:19.200 They all have the same thing in common.

02:03:22.040 You want to fix the planet's temperature off people.

02:03:26.920 Reduce the surplus population.

02:03:29.380 And don't have children.

02:03:30.360 And don't have children.

02:03:32.160 You want to stop people from winning on the other side because you're for communism or

02:03:38.440 socialism or Sharia law.

02:03:40.620 Kill them.

02:03:42.140 You want to make sure that everybody has a happy life.

02:03:45.740 Then you can go do whatever you want, but kill your baby.

02:03:49.120 That is Moloch worship.

02:03:51.140 This, we have seen this over and over and over again.

02:03:54.700 They had abortion trucks outside of the Democratic National Convention.

02:03:58.400 How, how?

02:03:59.100 Abortion trucks.

02:04:00.700 How does any of your neighbors?

02:04:02.240 I know.

02:04:03.200 How does any of your neighbors who really, truly believe that, no, no, no, we're on the

02:04:09.660 right side.

02:04:10.420 When you look at the curve to death.

02:04:14.200 I mean, this is why history is so important.

02:04:17.300 It repeats itself over and over and over again.

02:04:21.320 And especially ancient evil.

02:04:24.680 This is ancient evil.

02:04:26.780 That has, there have been 19 holocausts.

02:04:29.320 19.

02:04:30.220 And every time it happens, it starts exactly the same way.

02:04:35.100 Okay.

02:04:35.480 So that's, so here we are then, because the next question is, the real question is, as

02:04:41.020 a student of history, you've got the library, you've got the evidence.

02:04:44.840 How does this end?

02:04:46.080 How, how does a culture like ours that is becoming a culture of death, and this audience knows you

02:04:53.000 and I were on the air together the day Charlie died, the most difficult broadcast I think

02:04:58.700 either of us has ever done.

02:05:01.980 How is that trend resolved or not resolved?

02:05:06.540 So history does not write itself, and it certainly should never be left in the hands of the elites.

02:05:19.340 People write history by what you do and what you choose every day.

02:05:25.420 I will tell you, I'm going to say two phrases that are absolutely true.

02:05:31.420 Two, America cannot, at this point, America cannot survive, one, but God.

02:05:46.100 Only, only a revival, which we are coming to right now, there is a revival happening in the whole world.

02:05:54.040 It's not enough to have a revival.

02:05:56.820 There must be an awakening.

02:05:58.720 We had revivals all through the progressive era, okay?

02:06:02.200 People coming to Jesus.

02:06:03.540 It's good to come to Jesus, but now what are you going to do with that Jesus?

02:06:09.100 Are you going to put that Jesus off to the side, or are you going to let it affect who you vote for,

02:06:14.880 what you do, how you live your life, what you consume, both monetarily and in your own head?

02:06:21.780 That's an awakening.

02:06:22.920 Because I know who Jesus Christ is, I must change my life myself.

02:06:30.340 I don't need to go preach to everybody.

02:06:32.580 I'm going to change my life, and I will be so peculiar in this society that people will notice,

02:06:39.920 and they'll notice you're happy, we're all miserable.

02:06:43.200 How?

02:06:44.020 Yes.

02:06:44.700 It's Christ.

02:06:46.980 Only answer to our problems is Christ.

02:06:51.400 That is the only answer.

02:06:53.780 A humble understanding of the eternal truth taught to us in the Gospels.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 31, 2025

Crockett's Identity Theft, Vance's Dominance, and Death of Legacy Media - Link Lauren, Mark Halperin, and Glenn Beck at ＂Megyn Kelly Live＂｜ Ep. 1184

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