The Megyn Kelly Show - September 16, 2025


Cultural Decay Leading to Left Celebrating Violence, and Defining "Hate Speech," with The Fifth Column | Ep. 1150


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On this morning's show, we have breaking news as we learn more about the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination, Tyler Robinson. Plus, there's a debate about hate speech in America, and what should be done about it.

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00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.
00:00:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:15.260 We have breaking news this morning as we are learning more about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:00:20.200 Plus, there is a big debate breaking out over what to be done about hate speech in America.
00:00:26.440 Nothing. The answer is nothing. It's fine.
00:00:30.000 It's part of being American. Too bad. You don't like it? Speak the opposite.
00:00:35.100 That's the answer. You're American. That's how we do it here.
00:00:38.480 There's nothing wrong with hate speech. Sorry. Not legally.
00:00:41.880 There's nothing for a prosecutor to do, an attorney general to do.
00:00:45.940 The only thing you do is to speak louder with your POV. That's it.
00:00:49.600 There, I solved it.
00:00:51.200 But we're going to start with what FBI Director Kash Patel just told Senator Josh Hawley
00:00:56.060 about an online chat group involving alleged shooter Tyler Robinson. Watch.
00:01:04.860 Unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a Discord chat.
00:01:09.120 And for those unfamiliar with it, it's a gaming chat room online that the suspect participated in.
00:01:16.600 And so what we're doing, we've already done a sort of legal process, not just on Discord,
00:01:21.200 so that the information we gathered is sustained and held in an evidentiary posture that we could use in prosecution,
00:01:29.000 should it be decided to do so.
00:01:30.500 And we're also going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that Discord chat.
00:01:35.340 Okay, very good. I see the public reports that the Discord thread had as many as 20 additional users.
00:01:40.800 It sounds like you're trying to run down all of that to see if that's accurate,
00:01:44.940 who else may have been on that thread, what they may have known. Is that fair to say?
00:01:48.720 It's a lot more than that. We're running them all down.
00:01:50.600 It's a lot more than 20?
00:01:51.900 Yes, sir.
00:01:52.860 And you're running all of that together?
00:01:54.100 Every single one.
00:01:55.080 Yeah, fantastic.
00:01:55.860 A lot more than 20. That makes sense. If you listen to AM Update today, we laid out the list of just alleged ex-accounts
00:02:06.580 and online social media posts before Charlie's assassination promising something devastating was going to happen to him on September 10th.
00:02:16.540 And then spikes of the football thereafter.
00:02:20.280 It's disturbing. It's very telling.
00:02:22.260 It's going to be very hard for somebody to actually meaningfully argue that these people had no foreknowledge.
00:02:29.880 By the way, on AM Update, we attributed most of that reporting to the Washington Free Beacon, which did do a good report.
00:02:35.120 But the person who broke all of this was someone online who goes by Aesthetica.
00:02:39.620 It's at ANC underscore aesthetics.
00:02:43.440 And this was the person who actually broke all that news, and it should have been properly attributed.
00:02:48.200 Tyler Robinson is due to make his first court appearance later this afternoon, where we are expecting to learn exactly which charges he faces.
00:02:57.700 He's supposed to be in court at 3 p.m. Utah time.
00:03:01.500 I think that's right, 3 p.m. Utah time, which would be 5 p.m. here.
00:03:05.180 And two hours before that, they're expected to release more details on the charges, which would be 1 p.m. Utah time at 3 p.m. Eastern.
00:03:15.300 Joining me now to react to all of this are pals from The Fifth Column podcast, Camille Foster, editor-at-large for Tangle News, Michael Moynihan, host of The Moynihan Report on 2A, and Matt Welsh, editor-at-large for Reason.
00:03:27.480 You can find all of their work and subscribe at wethefifth.com.
00:03:30.800 And you'll find them on the road with me for Megyn Kelly Live, our tour starting next month.
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00:05:13.380 Guys, welcome back.
00:05:16.480 I actually haven't even gotten to speak to you about the tour, about Charlie, about anything.
00:05:22.240 Do you plan on going still on the tour?
00:05:25.640 Did you guys have any hesitation?
00:05:27.060 Was that a discussion?
00:05:27.940 Not a second.
00:05:28.800 Not a second.
00:05:29.600 Zero.
00:05:30.320 Yeah, we'll absolutely be there.
00:05:32.080 Yeah, you can just put us around you in chairs.
00:05:34.540 It'll be fine.
00:05:35.920 We are there.
00:05:36.960 We have Defend Megan t-shirts on.
00:05:39.040 You guys are awesome.
00:05:40.660 I'm so glad to hear that.
00:05:41.860 Thank you so much.
00:05:43.120 We haven't had anybody try to cancel on us so far.
00:05:45.540 Like, it's amazing, all of our guests.
00:05:47.840 And as I was reading your names, you know, it's like, I thought of Charlie, because it's
00:05:51.840 like, he came on the show almost as frequently as you guys did, and our relationship goes back
00:05:57.500 further, but he was here almost as often as you guys are.
00:06:01.380 And I, you know, it's like, I feel the way about his loss the way I'd feel if, God forbid,
00:06:05.960 something happened to one of you.
00:06:07.340 It's like, we don't hang out a lot.
00:06:09.100 We don't go for dinners a lot, but we know each other.
00:06:11.400 We've spent hours and hours.
00:06:12.740 I can't think of a lot of friends I have spent this much time with.
00:06:16.840 You know, if you look at the number of times you've come on, let's just take the last six
00:06:20.300 months, you know, like, we spent election together, the election night, all of it.
00:06:24.520 These relationships you form with the people who you interview and spend time with in this
00:06:28.780 space, they're real.
00:06:29.940 They're actually really meaningful.
00:06:31.520 And I'm still so just upset about Charlie and just reading all the leftist freak outs
00:06:37.560 about him.
00:06:38.680 I love National Review.
00:06:41.320 You know, they have a little TDS over there, but it's fine.
00:06:43.400 I love them.
00:06:44.440 And Jeff Blahar wrote a great piece.
00:06:47.900 He predicted this.
00:06:49.040 Okay.
00:06:49.140 Listen to this.
00:06:50.540 He wrote this earlier before the Charlie assassination.
00:06:55.480 It was after poor Irina was murdered on the train.
00:06:59.840 And he wrote this.
00:07:00.860 I fear we're on the verge of a great societal breakdown, one right out of the late sixties
00:07:04.980 and early seventies, and we are not prepared for it.
00:07:08.200 Something wicked this way comes.
00:07:10.240 The atrocity in Minneapolis is but one articulated edge in a far larger fractal pattern of violence
00:07:17.180 and madness creeping across our landscape.
00:07:19.760 Once the progress was imperceptibly slow, but technology has proven to be the accelerant.
00:07:24.760 The threat is pre-political, generational, and perhaps even civilizational.
00:07:28.480 The worst are full of passionate intensity.
00:07:31.560 Things are falling apart, crumbling at both the margins and the center of our societal self-conception.
00:07:37.700 What comes next?
00:07:39.000 I suppose we'll find out.
00:07:41.360 My God.
00:07:42.280 So he writes this and then he writes the following, which I want to kick it off with you guys on.
00:07:49.860 I want to express my burning contempt for the social media charade that I and every other
00:07:55.700 conservative just had to endure.
00:07:57.640 The experience of watching Charlie murdered and then watching vast numbers of propagandists
00:08:02.820 and people who know better tell us the Kirk was actually shot from a far right,
00:08:07.120 Groiper or a Nick Fuentes fan or a MAGA true believer, anyone but a person associated with
00:08:14.180 a left-coated cause, which Occam's razor already suggested was the likely reality.
00:08:19.900 As each new detail trickled out and the killer's transgender associations became clearer and clearer, 0.95
00:08:25.420 the hysterical spin and assertions of blunt unreality mounted.
00:08:29.300 Cynical pros began inserting outright lies into the mix as partisans took up their work
00:08:37.300 and used it in desperate craven attempts to either spin facts in ridiculous ways,
00:08:42.440 his parents are Republicans, or simply pretend the facts weren't facts at all.
00:08:47.460 All of it was done with the intent of trying to will into existence through the spread of fear,
00:08:52.480 uncertainty and doubt, an alternate narrative whose intended moral calculus amounted to,
00:08:57.360 in so many words, Charlie Kirk was killed by his own team and this is actually your fault.
00:09:03.860 So no, I'm not about to move on just yet.
00:09:08.580 Totally agree with and endorse every word of that.
00:09:11.920 The gaslighting that we have been subjected to over the past five or six days is infuriating
00:09:19.340 and it's like even more so, it's like unsettling.
00:09:22.280 It's actually kind of deeply unsettling.
00:09:23.920 Your thoughts?
00:09:24.340 Before we even get started, Megan, I just want to say on behalf of the boys,
00:09:30.120 since they're going to elbow me in the throat before all of that,
00:09:33.100 we watched you as you were struggling with this on air
00:09:37.320 and just kudos for you for elbowing your way through it.
00:09:41.700 I know how I only begin to imagine how rough that is.
00:09:44.900 And then also for you doing what Ben Shapiro did,
00:09:47.340 Ben, who's not a big F-bomb dropper,
00:09:49.620 but his response to this, like yours, is the correct one.
00:09:53.720 I am going to go in public and speak.
00:09:56.300 And we are very, very happy to go with you,
00:09:59.360 not because we always agree with you,
00:10:02.040 but precisely because we always don't.
00:10:04.600 Right, right, right.
00:10:05.600 Kind of the point.
00:10:07.340 Which is something that Charlie Kirk exuded in his bones.
00:10:10.540 So that's the throw clear.
00:10:12.680 Thank you for all of that.
00:10:13.660 Thank you, Matt.
00:10:14.700 It's terrifying to watch how many people have talked themselves
00:10:19.160 into an entire narrative.
00:10:21.280 Heather Cox Richardson, I think the most popular substacker.
00:10:24.200 Yeah.
00:10:24.540 Out there, incredibly successful, an academic of some sort.
00:10:28.000 Just sort of out there stating as kind of fact now,
00:10:32.040 that I guess they're saying he's a left groiper.
00:10:34.280 It's a new category.
00:10:35.740 That I'm unaware of.
00:10:37.040 So, uh, and there's, there's a whole category.
00:10:40.940 Groepers, just, just for the audience,
00:10:41.980 I know, groepers is a term that is generally used
00:10:44.080 to describe these Nick Fuentes fans.
00:10:45.940 Nick Fuentes, who is sort of described
00:10:48.280 as the, one of the OG modern day online white supremacists.
00:10:53.420 And, uh, I don't, it's got some whole lineage
00:10:55.960 with these like frogs, Pepe the Frog, whatever.
00:10:58.240 In any event, it's, it's a, it's a,
00:11:00.280 like a white supremacist who follows Nick Fuentes, a groiper. 0.99
00:11:03.680 Yes. Uh, so there, there are people
00:11:07.080 who are going to talk themselves up into that.
00:11:09.420 And there's even some, uh, preliminary survey data
00:11:11.880 that, um, that, that is going to be an epistemic bubble
00:11:15.380 that's not getting popped.
00:11:16.400 There's going to be people like, yeah, yeah,
00:11:17.800 he was definitely, definitely on the right.
00:11:20.100 Um, the, the same wisdom applies
00:11:22.960 to absolutely every, uh, tragedy, uh, uh, violent,
00:11:27.100 act of violence, especially if it's politicized,
00:11:28.940 it's okay to wait a beat.
00:11:30.540 It's okay not to state with a thousand percent certainty X.
00:11:34.840 Um, but please don't state with a thousand percent certainty
00:11:39.380 the opposite, uh, of X.
00:11:41.940 And it is revealing, uh, to see who is doing that right now.
00:11:45.320 Um, don't have to do that.
00:11:46.500 Uh, we, we can demand better of ourselves
00:11:48.720 and of the people that we,
00:11:50.580 and the institutions that we consume with in media.
00:11:53.600 Yeah. I just, um, second what Matt said,
00:11:56.760 and also to, uh, say kudos to our, our friend
00:12:00.160 and friend of all three of ours, uh, Jeff Blair
00:12:02.280 from National Review for a great piece
00:12:04.200 that I hadn't read.
00:12:04.840 So thanks, um, for reading that.
00:12:07.140 I mean, there's been, uh, I don't even know
00:12:09.680 how to begin this cause I've, you know,
00:12:12.040 my brain hasn't stopped worrying and whirling
00:12:15.340 since it happened.
00:12:16.620 And, um, you know, in, in, in seeing you,
00:12:19.780 Megan do that in real time and pivot, uh, very quickly. 1.00
00:12:23.080 Um, it's not a podcast, people.
00:12:25.100 This is a podcast.
00:12:25.840 We release things.
00:12:26.960 It's just an hour here and there.
00:12:28.240 I mean, reacting to the news in that way
00:12:29.580 was, I think, pretty helpful to a lot of people.
00:12:32.180 It certainly was for me.
00:12:33.360 But one of the things that's really interesting
00:12:35.360 about this that nobody really has pointed out
00:12:37.780 is that this is actually a new thing.
00:12:40.560 Why is this different than all of the other examples
00:12:43.880 people talk about?
00:12:44.940 You know, Minneapolis keeps coming up
00:12:46.480 in this political point scoring.
00:12:48.860 Um, it's never okay to do, you know,
00:12:52.660 acts of violence towards politicians.
00:12:54.480 That's should be obvious, but it is kind of interesting
00:12:57.180 that this is the only one I can think of, um,
00:12:59.720 of an act of violence against a pundit.
00:13:02.000 That doesn't happen very much.
00:13:03.660 It's very, very unique.
00:13:04.880 I can think of one that we were doing
00:13:07.160 an episode of the fifth column with our listeners
00:13:08.940 talking to them on zoom.
00:13:10.320 And I thought of Alan Berg,
00:13:11.820 who's probably totally forgotten about by people
00:13:14.100 who was a talk radio host in Colorado.
00:13:17.220 I think who was killed by neo-Nazis.
00:13:19.280 He was Jewish and that was enough. 1.00
00:13:22.000 And they, and he had attacked these Nazis 0.69
00:13:23.440 and they killed him.
00:13:24.280 But that was, um, the only one I could really think of.
00:13:28.040 And I think that was actually specific too,
00:13:29.820 about him attacking a specific person,
00:13:32.180 specific people responding.
00:13:33.940 Whereas this was, you know, somebody who had ideas.
00:13:36.800 And at the end of this conversation,
00:13:39.160 at the end of all of these conversations,
00:13:40.800 when you have these, well,
00:13:43.280 what was on the casings, the bullet casings?
00:13:46.120 What did they mean?
00:13:47.560 What did he say?
00:13:48.540 What was the, what did he say to his friends?
00:13:50.820 All of this stuff,
00:13:52.020 which is trying to divine the, um,
00:13:55.740 politics of this psychotic shooter.
00:13:58.460 It seemed pretty obvious to me
00:13:59.640 because he killed Charlie Kirk,
00:14:02.000 what his politics were.
00:14:03.860 Back to the Occam's razor.
00:14:05.560 That's the Occam's razor.
00:14:06.660 He killed Charlie Kirk.
00:14:07.900 He did not, he did not take a shot at, um,
00:14:10.680 you know, some sort of left-wing pundit
00:14:13.260 or left-wing politician.
00:14:14.360 And at the end of the day,
00:14:16.660 every conversation should start
00:14:18.600 and begin with one sentence.
00:14:21.160 Um, he was killed for what he believed.
00:14:23.320 He was killed for what he said.
00:14:25.860 Full stop.
00:14:27.660 Why are you saying,
00:14:28.680 and I keep on having these conversations,
00:14:30.000 you know, Camille, Matt,
00:14:30.780 and I had this conversation
00:14:31.460 where he immediately reacted to it
00:14:32.800 the day that it happened
00:14:34.600 is that I'm increasingly getting uncomfortable
00:14:38.120 with the throat clearing.
00:14:39.940 The, the, the sort of,
00:14:40.920 you have to do this throat clearing
00:14:42.200 if you're not a conservative
00:14:43.800 and say, well,
00:14:44.820 I didn't agree with everything
00:14:46.300 that he said.
00:14:48.180 Well, hold on a second.
00:14:49.540 Why does one say that?
00:14:50.800 I get the instinct
00:14:51.900 because you just want to,
00:14:52.700 you know, I'm,
00:14:53.380 I'm not this guy,
00:14:54.760 but what is built into saying
00:14:56.620 something like that
00:14:57.540 is that, you know,
00:14:58.800 I didn't agree with these
00:15:00.360 horrible things that he said,
00:15:02.800 but, you know,
00:15:03.520 you shouldn't kill him.
00:15:05.300 I mean,
00:15:05.700 that kind of sentence,
00:15:07.120 which presumes that there are certain,
00:15:08.900 I guess, you know,
00:15:09.660 certain language that you can use
00:15:12.240 where it's justified.
00:15:13.220 I don't know what motivates people
00:15:14.900 to say that,
00:15:16.000 but I don't care.
00:15:17.040 It should be,
00:15:17.940 you know, look,
00:15:18.580 Ezra Klein,
00:15:19.540 liberal columnist
00:15:20.520 for the New York Times,
00:15:22.180 who I think,
00:15:23.280 particularly Matt and I,
00:15:24.260 have had a fun time
00:15:26.120 making fun of for many,
00:15:27.200 many years.
00:15:28.220 Matt profiled him
00:15:29.240 for the Columbia Journalism Review,
00:15:30.520 and it was a bit of a tough profile,
00:15:32.060 but we've made fun of him
00:15:32.980 for a long time
00:15:33.720 for a variety of reasons.
00:15:34.940 But he came out
00:15:35.760 and wrote a piece
00:15:36.840 and said, you know,
00:15:37.340 this is what we should be doing.
00:15:38.980 This is how we argue.
00:15:40.380 I think the sickness
00:15:41.480 of the political culture,
00:15:42.680 which is demonstrated
00:15:44.060 in the assassination
00:15:45.100 of a pundit,
00:15:46.280 is also,
00:15:47.040 there's a second wave
00:15:48.260 of seeing the sickness
00:15:49.180 of this culture
00:15:49.740 as the reaction to it,
00:15:50.660 of course.
00:15:51.320 But it was the reaction
00:15:52.020 for mainstream people
00:15:53.140 getting mad at Ezra Klein
00:15:54.500 for having that measure of grace
00:15:56.480 and saying,
00:15:57.460 you know what,
00:15:57.840 the guy tried to engage people.
00:16:00.340 You might not like what he said,
00:16:01.600 and you might not like
00:16:02.500 what he thought,
00:16:03.720 but, you know,
00:16:04.380 this archaeology,
00:16:06.100 the offense archaeology,
00:16:07.520 what did Charlie Kirk say?
00:16:09.300 What did he say,
00:16:10.420 you know,
00:16:10.720 10 years ago?
00:16:11.900 Which, by the way,
00:16:12.700 one more thing,
00:16:13.560 I'm sorry to drone on about this,
00:16:15.020 but it's all very upsetting to me,
00:16:17.740 is that when you go
00:16:19.060 in these archaeological expeditions
00:16:21.100 to try to find bad things
00:16:22.480 that Charlie Kirk said
00:16:23.480 in the past,
00:16:24.560 I mean,
00:16:24.860 we do,
00:16:25.300 I mean,
00:16:25.560 you wouldn't take long
00:16:27.100 for people to find stuff
00:16:28.120 that I've said.
00:16:29.060 We do this for a living
00:16:29.940 or on the air all the time,
00:16:31.660 but it doesn't allow
00:16:33.320 for growth.
00:16:34.380 Because Charlie Kirk
00:16:35.260 has been doing this
00:16:35.980 since he was 17 or 18 years old.
00:16:37.780 I have wildly different views
00:16:39.740 than I had
00:16:40.200 when I was 17 or 18 years old.
00:16:42.240 And I think he probably did too,
00:16:44.000 not wildly so,
00:16:45.380 but you're going back
00:16:46.380 and trying to punish a man 1.00
00:16:47.680 in death
00:16:48.500 who was assassinated
00:16:50.080 and trying to find
00:16:51.540 these aberrant thoughts
00:16:53.100 that he had
00:16:53.680 when he was 18 or 19.
00:16:55.420 Guess what, guys?
00:16:56.340 That's when you're allowed
00:16:57.240 to have those aberrant thoughts.
00:16:58.320 You should always be allowed
00:16:59.480 to have them,
00:16:59.920 but that's when
00:17:00.640 you have things,
00:17:01.600 you're working things
00:17:02.360 out in your head
00:17:02.940 and now
00:17:03.520 you've been gunned down
00:17:05.020 in front of your family,
00:17:06.480 kids left fatherless.
00:17:08.340 And these vultures
00:17:10.380 are out there
00:17:11.500 trying to find the things
00:17:12.520 that you said
00:17:13.000 that were wrong.
00:17:13.840 And by the way,
00:17:14.360 and then misquoting you
00:17:15.740 in doing so,
00:17:16.800 it's a disgrace.
00:17:18.040 It's a disgrace.
00:17:18.700 I totally agree
00:17:19.840 with every word you just said.
00:17:20.920 I want to give a shout out too
00:17:22.320 because,
00:17:23.160 you know,
00:17:23.360 in our business,
00:17:23.880 we're always giving each other jazz
00:17:25.500 and people who are
00:17:26.640 on the opposite side
00:17:27.620 so much more so.
00:17:28.860 But I always have been
00:17:30.820 of the belief
00:17:31.660 that with the exception
00:17:32.780 of maybe 2% of the people
00:17:34.260 who come under
00:17:35.260 my own withering criticism,
00:17:37.520 I could go have a beer
00:17:38.720 with 98% of them.
00:17:39.900 I really could without,
00:17:41.000 I could check the politics
00:17:42.240 to the side
00:17:42.840 and I could have a beer
00:17:43.820 with them
00:17:44.120 and we could talk about things
00:17:45.060 that we do agree on,
00:17:46.480 you know,
00:17:46.780 whatever it is.
00:17:48.000 Sports is tough for me,
00:17:49.120 but I could make a showing of it
00:17:50.920 if it were important
00:17:51.660 to the other person.
00:17:52.980 Whatever.
00:17:53.520 There's a lot of stuff
00:17:54.220 beyond politics.
00:17:54.940 And even within politics,
00:17:56.060 there are a lot of safe zones.
00:17:57.320 I mean,
00:17:57.500 there are people
00:17:57.900 we can all agree are terrible.
00:17:59.200 Eric Swalwell.
00:17:59.980 Nobody likes him.
00:18:01.200 It's easy.
00:18:02.100 You know,
00:18:02.300 we go there.
00:18:02.940 No beer for you, Eric.
00:18:03.980 But we don't want any harm
00:18:04.920 to come to him.
00:18:05.640 No, no.
00:18:06.060 We just don't want any harm.
00:18:07.540 It'd be easy
00:18:08.280 to just find someone
00:18:09.340 we can all agree on.
00:18:10.900 Yes.
00:18:11.260 And I wanted to just
00:18:12.800 give a shout out.
00:18:14.020 I hope he'll forgive me
00:18:15.140 because he didn't,
00:18:15.780 like,
00:18:16.360 he didn't say it was off the record
00:18:17.340 and he didn't ask me
00:18:18.100 not to say anything.
00:18:19.180 But Tommy Vieter
00:18:20.400 of the Pod Save America guys
00:18:22.080 sent me one of the nicest notes
00:18:24.020 I've received.
00:18:25.260 And it was all about
00:18:26.480 how sad he was over Charlie
00:18:28.740 and how,
00:18:30.440 you know,
00:18:31.040 he's been reflecting
00:18:31.660 on his own life
00:18:32.540 and his own dialogue
00:18:33.700 on his show
00:18:34.540 and just how meaningful
00:18:35.980 what Charlie built was
00:18:37.140 to him from afar.
00:18:38.300 And he did not say
00:18:39.620 any of the throat clearing
00:18:41.640 at all.
00:18:42.100 Like,
00:18:42.440 I didn't agree with him.
00:18:43.420 Not a word of that.
00:18:44.740 Just I respected
00:18:45.560 what he built.
00:18:46.300 A man with a family
00:18:47.260 and Tommy has one too.
00:18:48.780 And now he's officially
00:18:50.000 my favorite Pod Save America guy.
00:18:51.540 But it is important
00:18:54.540 to call out,
00:18:55.200 like,
00:18:55.280 not all leftists
00:18:57.020 are insane
00:18:58.180 and have lost their minds,
00:19:00.340 you know,
00:19:00.640 but far too many have.
00:19:02.080 And far too many civilians
00:19:03.280 in powerful positions
00:19:04.440 like those
00:19:05.380 who are flying our planes
00:19:07.400 and operating
00:19:08.500 in our hospitals
00:19:09.720 have shown
00:19:10.940 the mania,
00:19:12.640 you know,
00:19:12.860 the mania
00:19:13.600 of enjoying
00:19:15.260 his death
00:19:16.500 and really wanting
00:19:17.640 to celebrate in it.
00:19:18.640 Your thoughts on it all,
00:19:19.380 Camille?
00:19:20.260 Well,
00:19:20.640 I think one of,
00:19:21.500 what you just said there
00:19:22.560 reminds me of something,
00:19:24.580 like,
00:19:24.860 one of the major defects
00:19:26.480 of the kind of
00:19:27.820 social justice
00:19:28.840 epoch
00:19:30.120 of the past
00:19:31.480 like five or six years
00:19:32.760 is the
00:19:34.340 magnification
00:19:35.680 of any imagined defect
00:19:37.980 in the people
00:19:38.980 that you most disagree with.
00:19:40.260 So America
00:19:41.100 just becomes
00:19:42.340 utterly white supremacist,
00:19:44.220 clearly irredeemable.
00:19:45.560 Everything about it
00:19:46.380 must be foregrounded
00:19:47.760 by acknowledging
00:19:49.160 in the strongest
00:19:50.080 possible terms
00:19:51.100 the worst,
00:19:51.840 its worst imaginable failures
00:19:53.780 and in many cases
00:19:55.040 just totally
00:19:55.800 imagined failures.
00:19:57.480 And unfortunately,
00:19:59.920 much of the country
00:20:01.100 has permitted itself
00:20:02.120 to be kind of
00:20:02.760 led around
00:20:03.280 by the nose
00:20:04.140 by the worst
00:20:05.500 malefactors
00:20:06.400 in our politics.
00:20:07.240 People who
00:20:08.100 have fringe ideas
00:20:10.060 who say
00:20:11.180 fringe things
00:20:12.080 at times
00:20:12.760 some of those
00:20:13.400 fringe things
00:20:14.200 because they've been
00:20:15.260 allowed to be
00:20:15.980 led around by the nose
00:20:16.740 by these people
00:20:17.660 have just kind of
00:20:18.720 risen
00:20:19.160 like
00:20:19.880 to the very top
00:20:21.560 and suddenly
00:20:22.560 it becomes
00:20:23.500 impolitic
00:20:24.320 to criticize people
00:20:25.220 for say
00:20:25.600 burning down buildings
00:20:26.760 or
00:20:27.940 punching Nazis
00:20:29.180 in the face
00:20:29.820 or whatever
00:20:30.240 you prefer.
00:20:31.900 I mean,
00:20:32.040 you can find
00:20:32.540 so many examples
00:20:33.400 of this
00:20:33.860 and this just became
00:20:35.200 part of our politics
00:20:36.520 and I think
00:20:38.100 many people
00:20:39.160 who in other
00:20:40.580 contexts
00:20:41.200 would have
00:20:41.800 shuddered at the
00:20:42.860 thought of endorsing
00:20:43.840 those sentiments
00:20:44.560 perhaps became
00:20:45.760 a little bit more
00:20:46.320 familiar with it.
00:20:47.580 But there's this
00:20:48.440 quote which I believe
00:20:49.460 is Nietzsche
00:20:49.940 and here we are
00:20:51.020 like 10 minutes in
00:20:51.940 and I'm going to try
00:20:52.600 to go deep
00:20:53.700 philosophical here
00:20:54.540 but it's not that
00:20:55.280 that profound.
00:20:56.520 We need it.
00:20:57.060 That you're
00:20:57.420 when you're fighting
00:20:58.300 monsters
00:20:58.860 like the thing
00:20:59.540 you have to be
00:21:00.080 careful of
00:21:00.680 is that you don't
00:21:01.440 become the monster
00:21:02.180 and I think
00:21:03.660 one of the concerns
00:21:04.460 that I've had
00:21:05.240 very recently
00:21:06.140 and not just recently
00:21:07.260 that's true
00:21:08.320 of kind of
00:21:09.400 my critique
00:21:09.840 of the left
00:21:10.360 is that
00:21:11.200 in analyzing
00:21:12.800 the fringe
00:21:14.740 characters
00:21:15.280 and there are
00:21:16.420 too many people
00:21:17.200 in this country
00:21:17.780 who endorse
00:21:18.400 really disgusting
00:21:19.720 views
00:21:20.140 who are celebrating
00:21:20.920 the death
00:21:21.420 of someone
00:21:21.740 they disagree with
00:21:22.600 or believe
00:21:23.160 it's even appropriate
00:21:23.860 to utilize violence
00:21:25.160 in contexts like this
00:21:26.700 that we aren't
00:21:30.360 insisting
00:21:32.280 that there are
00:21:32.780 that these people
00:21:34.160 are representative
00:21:35.120 of the broader
00:21:36.700 opinion on the left
00:21:37.900 it is the case
00:21:38.940 that well over
00:21:39.860 80% of Democrats
00:21:41.280 disagree with this stuff
00:21:42.580 based on this
00:21:43.080 YouGov poll
00:21:43.700 that I know
00:21:44.120 a number of people
00:21:44.640 have been citing
00:21:45.140 recently
00:21:45.640 and that 80%
00:21:46.980 is
00:21:48.020 I wish it were higher
00:21:49.300 and based on the polling
00:21:51.540 it is higher
00:21:52.540 amongst Republicans
00:21:53.560 you know we need
00:21:54.620 though Camille
00:21:55.000 we need that 80%
00:21:56.280 to call out the 20% 1.00
00:21:57.560 we do need that
00:21:59.140 we do need that
00:22:00.000 without a doubt
00:22:00.880 and I think there
00:22:01.480 just needs to be
00:22:01.960 a broad recognition
00:22:02.820 across the political
00:22:03.900 spectrum that this
00:22:04.580 is an issue
00:22:05.120 full stop
00:22:05.880 and I do think
00:22:06.920 that the left
00:22:07.660 has historically
00:22:08.540 and I believe
00:22:08.960 I've said it on this
00:22:09.560 program and I've said
00:22:10.260 it in another context
00:22:10.940 as well
00:22:11.400 had a very difficult
00:22:12.460 time acknowledging
00:22:13.620 the fact that
00:22:14.260 they have extremists
00:22:15.540 who endorse
00:22:16.460 really dangerous
00:22:17.380 things on their
00:22:18.920 side as well
00:22:20.240 they've spent
00:22:20.760 so many years
00:22:21.740 I'm sure you guys
00:22:22.400 remember all of
00:22:23.520 these studies
00:22:24.060 that were being
00:22:24.720 trotted out
00:22:25.360 in maybe 10 years
00:22:27.360 ago
00:22:27.680 where they're like
00:22:28.380 oh now we know
00:22:29.220 why conservatives
00:22:29.940 trend fascist
00:22:30.780 it's because
00:22:31.180 of some weird
00:22:31.760 defect that we
00:22:32.560 could see
00:22:33.000 in all of these
00:22:33.620 studies
00:22:34.000 the data
00:22:34.440 proves that
00:22:35.500 these people
00:22:36.140 are just
00:22:36.680 congenitally
00:22:37.320 fascist
00:22:38.020 that was
00:22:39.360 despicable
00:22:39.980 it was wrong
00:22:41.300 and it was also
00:22:42.700 a mistake
00:22:43.380 to try to
00:22:44.320 correct
00:22:44.720 overcorrect
00:22:45.500 in the other
00:22:45.920 direction
00:22:46.340 and I just
00:22:47.040 I want us
00:22:47.940 to be locked
00:22:48.580 into the fact
00:22:49.200 that as bad
00:22:49.860 as things
00:22:50.340 have felt
00:22:50.880 and I've felt
00:22:51.420 pretty awful
00:22:51.960 even listening
00:22:52.620 to you all
00:22:53.220 talk at the
00:22:54.200 beginning of this
00:22:54.800 I kept thinking
00:22:55.440 to myself
00:22:55.900 I'm not sure
00:22:56.380 I'm ready
00:22:56.660 to do this
00:22:57.180 again yet
00:22:57.680 I've been able
00:22:59.600 to hold it
00:23:00.160 together in most
00:23:01.000 of these appearances
00:23:01.700 but I'm definitely
00:23:03.220 not quite myself
00:23:04.180 like this
00:23:04.720 this feels
00:23:05.560 profoundly different
00:23:06.820 it makes me feel
00:23:07.680 deeply uncomfortable
00:23:08.560 I can't stop
00:23:09.540 thinking about
00:23:10.440 Charlie and his
00:23:11.240 kids
00:23:11.600 and I keep
00:23:12.600 having this
00:23:13.220 this impulse
00:23:13.940 to reach out
00:23:14.460 to even people
00:23:15.080 who I've had
00:23:15.600 kind of public
00:23:16.300 disagreements with
00:23:17.220 to try to mend
00:23:18.340 bridges
00:23:18.820 and if that's
00:23:20.320 what comes out
00:23:20.800 of this
00:23:21.060 then that's good
00:23:21.740 and I think
00:23:22.340 the only way
00:23:22.820 we get to that
00:23:23.580 coming out of this
00:23:24.420 is to acknowledge
00:23:25.600 clearly
00:23:26.060 most of us
00:23:27.280 are totally sane
00:23:28.480 most of us
00:23:29.560 hate seeing
00:23:30.420 what's happening
00:23:31.040 to this country
00:23:31.760 and even while
00:23:32.700 we disagree
00:23:33.240 vehemently
00:23:33.980 on so many issues
00:23:35.360 like we always have
00:23:36.880 and we found a way
00:23:38.080 to work together
00:23:38.860 productively
00:23:39.480 and that has to be
00:23:40.740 what comes out of this
00:23:41.620 not a kind of
00:23:43.080 campaign of reprisals
00:23:44.340 or recriminations
00:23:45.220 yes find everyone
00:23:46.840 who is advocating
00:23:47.660 for and actively
00:23:49.060 plotting
00:23:49.600 violence
00:23:50.720 and do something
00:23:51.720 about that
00:23:52.340 call it out
00:23:53.100 in the first case
00:23:54.140 and in the latter case
00:23:54.960 find them
00:23:55.760 and prosecute them
00:23:56.820 but let's also
00:23:59.000 focus on
00:24:00.040 like trying to
00:24:00.720 build bridges
00:24:01.220 and find partnership
00:24:02.500 with the broad
00:24:03.980 universe of people
00:24:05.000 who hate
00:24:06.180 political violence
00:24:07.500 who hate
00:24:08.300 the acrimony
00:24:09.260 that has become
00:24:09.860 so common
00:24:10.440 in our politics
00:24:10.920 we can and should
00:24:12.220 do better
00:24:12.720 that's an important
00:24:13.920 tale on there
00:24:14.740 because it's like
00:24:15.420 we are not going
00:24:16.580 to build bridges
00:24:17.140 to any of these loons
00:24:18.240 who are out there
00:24:18.960 celebrating Charlie's
00:24:19.860 murder at all
00:24:20.640 they're not reachable
00:24:21.480 we have no desire
00:24:22.180 to be around them
00:24:22.880 they're dangerous
00:24:23.480 people
00:24:23.940 there's no dialogue
00:24:25.380 there
00:24:25.680 there's only defeating
00:24:26.560 but there is a section
00:24:29.080 of the left
00:24:29.800 that hates what
00:24:31.120 happened to Charlie
00:24:31.880 and that doesn't do
00:24:32.800 the throat clearing
00:24:33.520 and that is still
00:24:34.540 rational
00:24:34.960 it's just we haven't
00:24:35.960 they have not been
00:24:36.660 the dominant voice
00:24:37.500 over the past week
00:24:38.440 at all
00:24:39.460 which has been
00:24:40.260 really rattling
00:24:41.020 I think to many of us
00:24:42.880 on team sanity
00:24:44.120 it's like
00:24:44.700 I certainly expected
00:24:46.560 the universal condemnation
00:24:48.400 without any qualifiers
00:24:49.760 to be a lot wider
00:24:51.520 and to be the dominant message
00:24:54.080 even I expected that
00:24:55.680 and I've been
00:24:56.680 just disgusted
00:24:57.980 with the mainstream message
00:25:00.980 it feels like the mainstream message
00:25:02.300 from most corners
00:25:03.060 which starts with
00:25:04.520 we may never know the motives
00:25:07.660 honestly
00:25:09.020 it's that is so infuriating
00:25:10.700 go fuck yourself
00:25:11.700 we clearly know the motives
00:25:12.960 he wrote them on the bullets
00:25:15.060 how much closer
00:25:16.440 are we going to get
00:25:17.420 you know
00:25:18.100 you've got the Utah governor
00:25:19.160 saying explicitly
00:25:19.960 that he'd been
00:25:20.640 he'd gone radically left
00:25:22.140 we've got the family
00:25:23.340 saying he'd gone radically left
00:25:24.780 we have the family
00:25:25.760 saying he
00:25:26.520 hated Charlie Kirk
00:25:28.100 we have
00:25:28.980 the FBI saying
00:25:30.500 that he said
00:25:31.400 he hated Charlie
00:25:32.140 that Charlie was coming to town
00:25:33.200 and that he planned to kill him
00:25:34.280 we've got the fact
00:25:35.780 that he put
00:25:36.440 weird furry
00:25:37.620 writings
00:25:38.620 on the bullet casing
00:25:39.680 that actually shot Charlie
00:25:41.320 he shot Charlie
00:25:42.560 when he was discussing
00:25:43.420 trans shootings 1.00
00:25:44.500 he waited until that moment
00:25:46.000 of the debate
00:25:46.920 he was dating
00:25:48.000 and living with
00:25:49.040 a trans male to female person
00:25:50.920 who was also a furry
00:25:52.280 the transgender community
00:25:54.480 some of whom were following
00:25:56.120 that boyfriend
00:25:57.260 were predicting the murder
00:25:59.220 and then celebrate
00:26:00.200 I mean like
00:26:00.600 look you don't have to be Columbo
00:26:03.160 to put two and two together here
00:26:05.280 and so it's just
00:26:06.980 the denial of reality
00:26:08.640 is very unsettling
00:26:10.040 it's like
00:26:10.680 you can go with
00:26:13.080 the vast majority
00:26:15.940 of trans people
00:26:16.700 don't murder
00:26:17.500 you can go with
00:26:18.800 the vast majority
00:26:19.580 of radicalized
00:26:20.960 online
00:26:21.680 22 year old men
00:26:22.940 who spend all their time
00:26:23.940 gaming
00:26:24.320 don't murder
00:26:25.220 you know
00:26:25.800 you could take it
00:26:26.660 any one of those places
00:26:27.500 and we can have that debate
00:26:28.760 but you cannot go with
00:26:30.320 these motives are irrelevant
00:26:32.100 and they're lies 0.65
00:26:33.000 and really he's just
00:26:33.740 a Republican
00:26:34.360 Mormon
00:26:35.040 gun loving
00:26:35.840 you know
00:26:36.760 well Christian
00:26:37.740 is what they're saying
00:26:38.460 I just
00:26:39.660 that is too
00:26:41.100 destabilizing
00:26:42.300 you know
00:26:43.100 there's truth
00:26:44.340 there's reality
00:26:45.300 and I will say this too
00:26:47.140 I've been very
00:26:48.340 very conscious
00:26:49.300 since the moment
00:26:50.100 of Charlie's death
00:26:51.260 not to just revert
00:26:52.920 to my own priors
00:26:54.120 which is what I think
00:26:55.440 most people are doing
00:26:56.640 right now
00:26:57.160 yes
00:26:58.060 as soon as I saw him shot
00:26:59.400 especially when we heard
00:27:00.260 the question that
00:27:00.940 he was answering
00:27:01.960 the first thing
00:27:03.020 I thought was
00:27:03.760 it's a trans activist
00:27:04.660 of some sort
00:27:05.260 it's somebody
00:27:05.880 acting in some way
00:27:07.880 on behalf of
00:27:08.420 the trans community
00:27:09.540 and to be honest
00:27:11.240 with you
00:27:11.480 I still think
00:27:12.020 that's true
00:27:12.460 I believe
00:27:13.700 based on this evidence
00:27:14.480 that's pretty clear
00:27:15.200 but
00:27:16.100 I've seen
00:27:17.380 everybody I know
00:27:18.140 go to their priors
00:27:18.980 you know
00:27:19.380 like
00:27:19.680 you know
00:27:20.360 they're
00:27:20.800 like I've seen
00:27:22.660 whatever
00:27:23.140 I've heard Tucker
00:27:24.300 and I've heard Candace
00:27:25.100 and we'll talk a little bit
00:27:25.900 about what Candace
00:27:26.580 is saying today
00:27:27.160 go to like
00:27:28.380 is there any sort of
00:27:29.800 state
00:27:30.360 possibly Israeli involvement
00:27:32.360 Tucker didn't say
00:27:32.980 that explicitly
00:27:33.480 but you know
00:27:34.200 you can see
00:27:34.940 he might be
00:27:35.460 kicking it around
00:27:36.200 and she's saying it
00:27:37.400 a little bit closer
00:27:38.320 to explicitly
00:27:39.080 you see people
00:27:40.520 who are just more
00:27:41.100 conspiratorial
00:27:41.780 in their thinking
00:27:42.340 and that's fine
00:27:43.020 honestly we've talked
00:27:43.680 about this many times
00:27:44.380 they've gone to like
00:27:46.140 the massive conspiracy
00:27:47.020 you know
00:27:47.300 like our own government
00:27:48.560 did it
00:27:49.000 our own government
00:27:49.820 somehow wanted
00:27:50.400 to get Charlie
00:27:51.020 and that's online
00:27:52.780 in certain corners
00:27:53.780 and that his own security
00:27:55.380 shot him
00:27:56.780 and the video slowed down
00:27:58.280 to show you how his own
00:27:59.040 security guard was in on it
00:28:00.160 shooting him from
00:28:00.680 the other side
00:28:01.540 somehow the magic bullet
00:28:02.860 made it through
00:28:03.520 and around
00:28:04.040 and to the left
00:28:04.780 even though the guy
00:28:05.300 was on the right
00:28:05.900 all this stuff
00:28:07.060 so I think most of
00:28:09.060 what we're seeing right now
00:28:09.800 in the news
00:28:10.200 is people going
00:28:10.920 to their own priors
00:28:11.620 the left is like
00:28:12.420 the right are fascists
00:28:13.760 they're the evil ones
00:28:15.200 and so they're the ones
00:28:16.340 who pick up guns
00:28:16.940 and shoot people 0.75
00:28:17.620 and our people
00:28:18.220 are peaceful
00:28:18.960 which is a lie
00:28:19.760 and you know
00:28:21.860 somebody like me
00:28:22.480 who's been very active
00:28:23.200 in what's happening
00:28:24.820 in the trans community
00:28:25.480 is deeply wrong
00:28:26.180 kind of goes there first
00:28:27.780 saying I suspect them
00:28:29.520 and so on
00:28:30.340 so we all have to
00:28:31.540 check our own biases
00:28:32.480 and stay fact-based
00:28:34.860 fact-based
00:28:35.900 no matter where
00:28:37.220 the facts lead us
00:28:38.260 which is very possible
00:28:39.880 if you're aware
00:28:41.120 of your own priors
00:28:42.500 and you take the facts
00:28:44.440 as they come in
00:28:44.940 but the left
00:28:45.780 I submit to you
00:28:46.980 is not willing to do that
00:28:48.140 it is not willing
00:28:49.740 to do that
00:28:50.260 it is not going to accept
00:28:51.540 even if this guy
00:28:52.240 comes out
00:28:52.660 at this arraignment today
00:28:53.820 or his first appearance today
00:28:55.160 and says
00:28:55.660 I did it
00:28:56.660 for the trannies 1.00
00:28:57.580 or I did it
00:28:58.700 for Israel
00:29:00.120 or whatever
00:29:00.700 you pick it
00:29:01.320 you know
00:29:01.580 any number
00:29:02.880 that's going around now
00:29:03.760 the left will not accept that
00:29:05.720 they will only go
00:29:07.060 with the pre-existing narrative
00:29:08.260 I don't know why
00:29:09.940 they're divorced from reality
00:29:11.080 they can't accept
00:29:12.280 what their side is doing
00:29:13.460 you tell me
00:29:14.620 there's so much
00:29:16.580 to unpack here
00:29:17.400 I mean there's
00:29:17.940 you know
00:29:18.560 the frustration
00:29:19.220 that I had
00:29:20.240 when everything
00:29:21.360 you know
00:29:21.920 Occam's razor
00:29:22.540 as we've mentioned
00:29:23.240 a couple times
00:29:23.760 was so clear
00:29:24.420 that Charlie Kirk
00:29:26.160 of all people
00:29:27.080 was gunned down
00:29:28.380 in the middle
00:29:29.160 of one of his
00:29:30.280 debate sessions
00:29:31.480 with students
00:29:32.060 at a university
00:29:32.660 pretty obvious
00:29:33.860 what's going on here
00:29:34.740 I mean there's
00:29:35.400 a narrow band
00:29:36.480 of people
00:29:36.960 that could be
00:29:38.060 groipers
00:29:38.900 or something
00:29:39.520 but yet
00:29:41.100 because there's
00:29:42.060 you know
00:29:42.500 one person
00:29:43.340 out of all of them
00:29:44.100 you have
00:29:45.040 Heather Cox Richardson
00:29:46.720 the biggest substacker
00:29:48.120 and apparently
00:29:48.680 a professor
00:29:49.400 of some repute
00:29:51.120 which
00:29:51.620 she should lose
00:29:53.080 any of that repute
00:29:54.080 for the stuff
00:29:54.540 that I've been reading
00:29:55.160 by her
00:29:55.620 and you know
00:29:56.820 the bullet casing stuff
00:29:57.800 well that wasn't true
00:29:58.580 we've got to take
00:29:59.120 that story back
00:29:59.960 somebody told the Guardian
00:30:01.080 that he'd gone
00:30:01.920 very far left
00:30:02.660 and then the Guardian
00:30:03.320 said well we don't
00:30:04.060 know if that's true
00:30:04.600 we're actually going
00:30:04.920 to append something
00:30:06.160 everyone's being
00:30:06.540 very nervous
00:30:07.140 about this
00:30:07.700 about his politics
00:30:08.480 and then you think
00:30:09.500 back to Jared Loeffner
00:30:10.720 the psychotic
00:30:12.480 loser
00:30:13.600 who shot
00:30:14.600 Gabby Giffords
00:30:15.320 and we saw
00:30:17.200 Paul Krugman
00:30:18.040 the next day
00:30:18.860 you know
00:30:19.500 trying to tie this
00:30:20.520 to Republicans
00:30:21.740 people trying to tie
00:30:22.720 it to Sarah Palin
00:30:23.580 and then you saw
00:30:24.660 his
00:30:25.060 what he wrote
00:30:26.180 about this
00:30:26.720 before he did it
00:30:27.400 and it was a bunch
00:30:28.420 of babble
00:30:29.200 about numerology
00:30:30.360 and how grammar
00:30:32.200 was an evil
00:30:33.760 conspiracy
00:30:34.300 grammar
00:30:34.780 not liberals
00:30:36.280 but not
00:30:36.900 you know
00:30:37.320 grammar
00:30:38.220 and so they were
00:30:39.620 very happy
00:30:40.420 to jump
00:30:40.940 to those conclusions
00:30:41.780 then
00:30:42.100 and now
00:30:42.600 it's everybody
00:30:43.620 urging
00:30:44.140 calm and reflection
00:30:45.580 one thing I want
00:30:46.440 to say about
00:30:47.040 sticking to the facts
00:30:48.400 I mean we
00:30:49.800 absolutely have
00:30:50.900 to do that
00:30:51.320 and I see
00:30:51.720 so many people
00:30:52.380 like you Megan
00:30:52.840 who are not
00:30:53.260 doing that
00:30:53.700 and are getting
00:30:54.800 out in front
00:30:55.720 of themselves
00:30:56.080 to try to make
00:30:56.680 some sort
00:30:57.020 of political
00:30:57.320 point
00:30:57.700 there's a problem
00:30:59.100 though about the way
00:30:59.720 that people actually
00:31:00.200 deal with facts
00:31:01.080 and deal with things
00:31:02.180 that are undeniably
00:31:03.200 true
00:31:03.600 so you have people
00:31:05.040 saying well what about
00:31:06.240 the what aboutism
00:31:07.220 comes
00:31:07.700 and when we're
00:31:08.580 trying to figure out
00:31:09.360 who is more violent
00:31:10.440 the left to the right
00:31:11.280 which is a mugs game
00:31:12.340 it's a stupid idea
00:31:13.280 it's a stupid game
00:31:14.600 because there is
00:31:15.640 something in this
00:31:16.680 that is important
00:31:17.380 but no one is
00:31:18.420 paying attention to it
00:31:19.400 they're trying to figure out
00:31:20.320 on a scorecard
00:31:21.220 I've seen many of
00:31:22.260 these scorecards
00:31:22.980 the actual case here
00:31:24.720 is not that
00:31:25.600 there is a scorecard
00:31:26.620 it's how your side
00:31:28.780 it's how the people
00:31:30.220 in your
00:31:31.280 you know
00:31:31.740 retinue
00:31:32.180 how they deal with it
00:31:33.740 and how they
00:31:34.860 internalize violence
00:31:36.420 what I mean by this
00:31:37.860 is right close
00:31:38.680 to where I am right now
00:31:39.860 I just saw
00:31:41.100 a news
00:31:42.060 story pop up
00:31:43.840 that a judge
00:31:45.140 dismissed
00:31:45.760 two charges
00:31:46.700 in the Luigi Mangione case
00:31:48.560 one of them
00:31:48.920 I think
00:31:49.080 the terrorism charges
00:31:50.200 the second story
00:31:52.380 I saw
00:31:52.820 related to that
00:31:53.520 was a chorus
00:31:54.420 of cheers
00:31:54.900 from people
00:31:55.700 out in front
00:31:56.240 of the courtroom
00:31:56.800 odd people
00:31:58.520 who are holding signs
00:31:59.640 and standing
00:32:01.240 for Luigi
00:32:02.200 I just imagine
00:32:03.600 if there was
00:32:04.320 I don't love
00:32:04.900 playing this game
00:32:05.520 but I just imagine
00:32:06.120 if there was
00:32:06.520 some sort of
00:32:06.960 right wing lunatic
00:32:07.800 killer
00:32:08.160 and there was
00:32:08.520 50 people
00:32:09.140 out in front
00:32:10.120 of the courtroom
00:32:11.260 in New York City
00:32:11.920 cheering that person
00:32:13.200 having lesser
00:32:13.960 pictures
00:32:14.480 what would
00:32:15.700 you would never
00:32:16.400 hear the end of it
00:32:17.080 and if I can do
00:32:18.440 one very quick thing
00:32:19.440 and I'm just thinking
00:32:20.000 about this this morning
00:32:20.940 because I was coming
00:32:21.980 in to the city
00:32:23.980 on the subway
00:32:24.520 and I mentioned
00:32:26.080 this the other day
00:32:27.020 the institutional
00:32:28.480 acceptance of violence
00:32:30.480 on the left
00:32:31.460 and I'm sorry
00:32:31.920 I'm tired of being
00:32:32.980 ecumenical about this
00:32:34.000 there is no
00:32:35.320 people in universities
00:32:36.920 who committed
00:32:38.460 right wing terrorism
00:32:39.820 who now have
00:32:40.860 university jobs
00:32:41.740 or are treated
00:32:42.720 with respect
00:32:43.880 and I went down
00:32:45.240 the list
00:32:45.740 that's right
00:32:46.300 nor does the right
00:32:47.120 ever stop a speaker
00:32:48.160 from coming
00:32:48.680 to a college campus
00:32:49.720 and if they did
00:32:51.380 we would all denounce
00:32:52.180 it I hope
00:32:52.640 I mean I know
00:32:53.140 that you would
00:32:53.620 Megan I know
00:32:54.060 all three of us
00:32:54.740 would do it
00:32:55.240 but I was just
00:32:56.160 thinking of the people
00:32:57.040 because I'm obsessed
00:32:57.760 with this stuff
00:32:58.320 and I have mental
00:32:59.100 health issues Megan
00:32:59.840 and so I know
00:33:00.960 all these people
00:33:01.980 these mad terrorists
00:33:03.500 from the 1960s
00:33:04.460 who I've written
00:33:05.040 endlessly about
00:33:05.880 and I was trying
00:33:06.740 to think that people
00:33:07.300 who have been charged
00:33:08.000 with crimes
00:33:08.560 terrorism crimes
00:33:09.620 been in front of a court
00:33:10.960 because of this
00:33:11.640 who have advocated
00:33:12.540 violence
00:33:12.960 and in a lot of cases
00:33:13.840 participated in violence
00:33:14.980 and in some cases
00:33:16.080 been convicted
00:33:16.880 of murder
00:33:17.600 Kathy Boudin
00:33:19.000 Kathy Boudin
00:33:20.360 who was at NYU
00:33:21.920 and Columbia
00:33:22.840 she was convicted
00:33:23.460 of murder
00:33:24.180 Bill Ayers
00:33:24.900 Bill Ayers
00:33:26.660 at University of Illinois
00:33:27.600 Bernie Dorn
00:33:28.420 Northwestern
00:33:29.020 I was writing them down
00:33:30.060 Eleanor Stein
00:33:31.300 a member of the Weather Underground
00:33:32.360 SUNY Albany
00:33:33.260 Susan Rosenberg
00:33:34.240 John Jay College
00:33:34.980 and Hamilton College
00:33:35.840 Judith Clark
00:33:36.920 at CUNY
00:33:37.700 Kathy Boudin
00:33:38.800 Jamal Josephs
00:33:39.800 at Columbia University
00:33:40.520 Erica Huggins
00:33:41.400 at California State
00:33:42.340 Howard Mockdinger
00:33:43.720 University of North Carolina
00:33:45.400 the list goes on
00:33:46.240 all of those people
00:33:47.420 were involved
00:33:48.120 in terrorism
00:33:49.040 this is not a
00:33:50.360 controversial position
00:33:51.600 I'm taking
00:33:52.000 these people have been
00:33:53.300 either convicted
00:33:55.120 or were part
00:33:56.500 of this sort of
00:33:57.140 organizing committee
00:33:58.020 of the Weather Underground
00:33:58.600 not only did we
00:34:00.200 allow them
00:34:01.120 back into society
00:34:02.280 like look
00:34:03.240 you served your time
00:34:04.400 or you were
00:34:05.080 found innocent
00:34:06.060 I don't want to
00:34:07.340 put people
00:34:08.240 in a corner forever
00:34:09.200 most of these people
00:34:10.460 didn't go back
00:34:12.120 to their views
00:34:12.520 and say these were wrong
00:34:13.200 they got university
00:34:14.680 teaching jobs
00:34:15.880 university teaching jobs
00:34:18.060 and I ask every listener
00:34:19.340 of the show
00:34:19.900 if you think
00:34:20.400 that it's a small
00:34:21.660 proportion of people
00:34:23.280 that are celebrating
00:34:24.600 or justifying
00:34:25.720 Charlie Kirk's murder
00:34:26.520 I suspect it probably
00:34:28.220 is small
00:34:29.360 but it's way too big
00:34:30.580 those are the same
00:34:31.900 you can have exactly
00:34:33.020 those two sentiments
00:34:33.740 at the same time
00:34:34.400 and just think of anyone
00:34:35.840 that you know
00:34:36.940 on social media
00:34:38.360 who has said something
00:34:39.820 friend of a friend
00:34:41.240 who sent you a screenshot
00:34:42.280 of one of their friends
00:34:43.260 I have had so much
00:34:44.720 of this
00:34:45.000 and none of these people
00:34:45.940 are in the world
00:34:46.360 that we live
00:34:46.820 in the world of politics
00:34:48.100 and it's astonishing
00:34:49.800 to me
00:34:50.720 much like the
00:34:51.840 Luigi Mangione thing
00:34:53.340 how many people
00:34:54.600 are saying
00:34:54.980 well it's bad
00:34:56.060 but
00:34:56.620 that is a bad place
00:34:58.560 to be
00:34:59.580 and I want everyone
00:35:00.660 to walk away
00:35:01.400 from politics
00:35:01.960 for a second
00:35:02.400 because you start thinking
00:35:03.260 well what did Charlie Kirk
00:35:04.260 think about trans rights
00:35:06.140 and affirmative action
00:35:07.180 you know you should be
00:35:08.520 you should be my daughter
00:35:10.280 who's 14 year olds old
00:35:11.280 and just the most
00:35:12.020 fantastic person on earth
00:35:13.040 she found out about this
00:35:14.640 and texted me
00:35:15.420 and you know what her text was
00:35:16.920 he had two kids
00:35:18.660 that's what she said
00:35:20.600 and that's the right thing
00:35:21.840 she couldn't imagine
00:35:23.380 like
00:35:24.200 their father was taken away
00:35:26.760 because she has no politics in her 0.98
00:35:28.620 she's 14
00:35:29.580 she doesn't think about politics
00:35:30.520 so she thinks about
00:35:31.780 the natural thing
00:35:32.820 that we should think about
00:35:33.940 is someone being gunned down
00:35:36.580 and you know
00:35:38.360 there's so many horrors of it
00:35:39.500 but taking away a father
00:35:41.640 from their kids
00:35:42.160 who will you know
00:35:42.780 don't have a father growing up
00:35:44.120 I mean it's so horrifying to me
00:35:46.240 and I thought
00:35:47.000 when my daughter sent me
00:35:47.740 that text message
00:35:48.360 I was like
00:35:48.780 yeah we need to get back to that
00:35:50.140 we need to get back to being
00:35:50.960 out of the mouths of babes
00:35:52.340 and get out of the politics
00:35:54.480 and just think of the consequences
00:35:56.080 of this disgusting person's 0.83
00:35:58.400 disgusting actions
00:35:59.240 I just wanted to say
00:36:00.520 two factual things
00:36:01.780 on what you said
00:36:02.340 yes there was that controversy
00:36:03.800 about the bullet casing
00:36:04.560 where people say
00:36:04.900 oh well that fell apart
00:36:05.740 no it did not fall apart
00:36:06.980 the first bullet
00:36:08.260 the bullet casing
00:36:09.560 on the bullet that hit Charlie
00:36:12.640 read notices bulges
00:36:15.440 O-W-O 0.99
00:36:17.020 which is a furry meme
00:36:19.740 it's a meme from furry culture
00:36:21.540 which is very closely linked
00:36:23.500 to the trans community
00:36:24.700 and who does it turn out
00:36:26.400 his boyfriend is
00:36:27.360 a furry
00:36:28.500 slash trans person 1.00
00:36:30.200 and the shooter himself
00:36:31.620 is linked to a furry website
00:36:34.220 he's he registered
00:36:35.660 on this furry website
00:36:37.220 so it's very linked
00:36:38.820 I mean don't believe
00:36:39.800 don't believe me
00:36:40.340 go ahead
00:36:40.700 look at it online
00:36:41.620 that furry culture
00:36:42.420 and that trans culture
00:36:43.300 are two sides
00:36:44.960 of the same coin
00:36:45.820 so it did not fall apart
00:36:47.480 in fact if anything
00:36:48.660 it only came into full flower
00:36:50.920 once we learned
00:36:51.520 about the boyfriend
00:36:52.200 not for nothing
00:36:53.620 but there are
00:36:54.220 unconfirmed reports
00:36:55.440 now that there was
00:36:56.460 a second boyfriend
00:36:57.180 who was also
00:36:57.900 much like the first one
00:36:59.560 we'll see whether
00:37:00.660 that's true or not
00:37:01.540 but clearly this man
00:37:02.820 the shooter
00:37:03.360 and his boyfriend
00:37:04.060 were extremely tied
00:37:05.100 to the trans community
00:37:06.940 and according to what I read
00:37:10.840 from Aesthetica
00:37:11.680 and the Washington Free Beacon
00:37:13.040 also to some sort of group online
00:37:16.440 that was predicting this murder
00:37:18.100 so the FBI is looking
00:37:19.860 into all that
00:37:20.280 and then secondly
00:37:20.860 you mentioned
00:37:22.480 the friend interview
00:37:23.300 to the Guardian
00:37:23.840 which then the Guardian
00:37:24.580 stood down on
00:37:25.320 the friend of the shooter
00:37:26.300 was allegedly saying
00:37:27.300 he went very left
00:37:28.340 in recent years
00:37:29.080 and this is a left wing publication
00:37:31.200 so the left
00:37:32.120 didn't know what to do with that
00:37:33.140 like why would
00:37:33.880 you can see why
00:37:34.640 National Review
00:37:35.180 would write that
00:37:35.740 but why would
00:37:36.280 the Guardian say that
00:37:37.300 if it weren't true
00:37:37.820 so it was a problematic report
00:37:39.080 for these lefties
00:37:39.840 and then the Guardian
00:37:40.940 stood down on the report
00:37:42.540 saying oh we're not sure
00:37:43.940 and then all the left
00:37:45.460 used that too
00:37:46.060 to say oh see
00:37:46.860 he wasn't a lefty
00:37:48.540 totally ignoring
00:37:49.400 that the Utah governor
00:37:50.580 has repeatedly said
00:37:51.600 and the FBI
00:37:52.320 has now repeatedly said
00:37:53.680 on the record
00:37:54.500 on camera
00:37:55.680 not anonymously
00:37:56.840 not leaked
00:37:57.560 that he had been infected
00:37:59.940 by far left ideology
00:38:02.020 by left wing ideology
00:38:03.600 that is what they both said
00:38:05.100 they won't acknowledge it
00:38:07.000 instead we get
00:38:08.100 here's CBS Evening News'
00:38:11.380 John Dickinson
00:38:12.840 just the other night
00:38:14.940 on Monday
00:38:15.420 last night
00:38:16.240 five days after
00:38:18.120 Charlie Kirk's murder
00:38:19.440 the shooter's motive
00:38:20.720 remains elusive
00:38:21.740 no writings left behind
00:38:23.280 vague second hand testimony
00:38:24.860 that uncertainty
00:38:26.220 and the risk of drawing
00:38:27.280 sweeping conclusions
00:38:28.400 suggests the murder
00:38:29.940 may share similarities
00:38:31.020 with recent violence
00:38:32.520 not driven
00:38:33.120 by an obvious
00:38:34.140 political ideology
00:38:35.300 the FBI recently
00:38:36.880 recognized a new category
00:38:38.480 nihilistic violent extremism
00:38:40.940 hmm
00:38:42.440 what is he talking about
00:38:44.520 that's very selective
00:38:44.880 very selective
00:38:46.220 skepticism
00:38:47.280 again
00:38:47.820 I'm in favor
00:38:49.280 of like
00:38:49.920 let's hold it off
00:38:50.940 wait for the evidence
00:38:52.060 to come in
00:38:52.540 and try hard
00:38:53.460 not to root for
00:38:54.700 what category
00:38:55.960 this shooter belongs to
00:38:56.900 I think that we all
00:38:58.200 should do more of that
00:38:58.900 so maybe the first half
00:39:00.240 of a sentence could be
00:39:00.880 read like that
00:39:01.920 but then the second half
00:39:03.340 of a sentence is
00:39:04.020 it suggests
00:39:05.280 this explanation over here
00:39:07.440 like wait a second
00:39:07.960 where was the tiktok
00:39:08.820 of evidence Matt
00:39:09.820 okay if you're gonna say
00:39:11.400 we don't know
00:39:11.980 what the motive is
00:39:12.560 you must offer
00:39:14.080 the evidence we do have
00:39:15.200 there were no writings
00:39:16.140 yes there fucking were 0.51
00:39:17.700 there were writings
00:39:18.860 there were writings
00:39:20.180 on the bullet pacings
00:39:22.100 you absolute asshole
00:39:23.940 like there were writings
00:39:26.400 and they couldn't have
00:39:27.520 been more tied
00:39:28.540 intimately to the actual murder
00:39:31.280 this is insanity to say that
00:39:33.280 and that
00:39:34.020 and there might be
00:39:34.480 by the way
00:39:34.760 there doesn't have to be
00:39:35.400 writings anyway
00:39:36.300 but if there are
00:39:38.040 and then you look at the man's
00:39:39.300 lifestyle
00:39:39.700 and they back up
00:39:40.760 everything that was written
00:39:42.000 on the bullets
00:39:42.580 it seems like it might be
00:39:43.980 worth leading with
00:39:45.160 John
00:39:45.820 rather than
00:39:46.920 gee it might be
00:39:47.720 it's just a mystery
00:39:49.020 and by the way
00:39:50.000 then we saw Jessica Tarlov
00:39:51.440 try to do that shit
00:39:52.960 on Fox News
00:39:54.240 is the five
00:39:55.000 as she both sides 0.88
00:39:56.380 is
00:39:56.700 both sides
00:39:58.080 the violence issue
00:40:00.320 and it was a great response
00:40:01.860 from Greg Gutfeld
00:40:02.660 that is very satisfying
00:40:03.860 to watch
00:40:04.340 I encourage people
00:40:04.900 to watch the whole thing
00:40:05.600 online
00:40:05.960 because
00:40:06.900 he spoke for all of us
00:40:09.580 in his
00:40:10.180 his firing back at her 0.80
00:40:12.560 and her shutting 1.00
00:40:13.420 that shit down
00:40:14.240 here it is
00:40:14.820 why is only this
00:40:17.100 happening on the left
00:40:18.140 and not the right
00:40:18.840 that's all we need to know
00:40:20.060 there's absolutely no
00:40:21.580 cognitive
00:40:21.820 what about Melissa Hortman
00:40:22.980 that we just talked about
00:40:23.820 you want to talk about
00:40:24.360 Melissa Hortman
00:40:25.120 did you know her name
00:40:26.760 before it happened
00:40:27.500 none of us did
00:40:28.700 none of us were spending
00:40:29.900 every single day
00:40:30.700 talking about Mrs. Hortman
00:40:31.940 I never heard of her
00:40:33.380 until after she died
00:40:34.400 so she doesn't matter 0.69
00:40:34.920 don't play that bullshit
00:40:37.860 with me
00:40:38.420 you know
00:40:39.220 what I'm saying is
00:40:40.520 there was no
00:40:41.420 demonization
00:40:42.300 amplification
00:40:43.180 about that woman 0.76
00:40:44.180 before she died
00:40:45.220 it was a specific
00:40:46.220 crime against her
00:40:47.340 by somebody who knew her
00:40:48.680 the both sides argument
00:40:50.940 not only doesn't fly
00:40:53.180 we don't care
00:40:54.840 we don't care
00:40:56.120 about your both sides argument
00:40:57.440 that shit is dead
00:40:59.580 all that I was saying is
00:41:01.180 is could we have
00:41:02.120 all of the information
00:41:03.060 before you just say
00:41:04.000 they did this
00:41:05.240 because that is a broad brush
00:41:07.000 to paint with this
00:41:07.800 and this kid
00:41:08.620 let's have a conversation
00:41:09.860 no
00:41:10.420 Charlie had a conversation
00:41:11.840 you got shot
00:41:12.720 I
00:41:12.960 they built this thing up
00:41:15.280 we're dealing with it
00:41:16.620 we're gonna act
00:41:17.800 we don't care
00:41:18.940 what the whataboutism
00:41:20.420 is anymore
00:41:21.020 that shit's dead
00:41:21.960 I couldn't agree more
00:41:25.260 I like
00:41:25.720 I just feel like
00:41:26.640 what do you
00:41:27.580 she's acting like
00:41:28.520 it's a total mystery
00:41:29.460 she's she's pulling
00:41:30.460 the John Dickerson thing
00:41:31.580 Dickinson
00:41:32.060 where it's like
00:41:32.880 gee
00:41:33.460 just such a mystery
00:41:34.840 oh and by the way
00:41:35.840 both sides do
00:41:36.600 political violence
00:41:37.300 they keep raising
00:41:38.540 this house speaker
00:41:39.580 in Minnesota
00:41:40.340 and it is infuriating
00:41:42.020 first of all
00:41:42.620 Gutfeld is exactly right
00:41:44.120 she wasn't killed
00:41:45.440 because there were
00:41:46.200 universal attacks
00:41:47.780 by the right
00:41:49.000 on her
00:41:49.720 stirring up
00:41:50.840 the national animus
00:41:52.220 against her
00:41:53.360 nobody knew her name
00:41:54.840 she wasn't some 0.84
00:41:55.640 some star
00:41:56.580 in Minnesota either
00:41:57.720 where it was like
00:41:58.300 oh every negative article
00:41:59.520 about this house speaker
00:42:00.380 that's not at all
00:42:01.420 what was happening there
00:42:02.600 and secondly
00:42:03.280 the guy who killed her
00:42:05.140 the psycho
00:42:05.760 remember who broke
00:42:06.540 into her home
00:42:07.380 and and
00:42:08.400 was wearing the mask
00:42:09.760 was a psycho
00:42:11.080 the guy was a psycho
00:42:12.740 he had clearly
00:42:14.260 lost his mind
00:42:15.460 you can attribute it
00:42:16.740 to political violence
00:42:17.620 like yes he targeted
00:42:18.460 somebody who was in
00:42:19.220 politics
00:42:19.600 but he was a nutcase 0.58
00:42:21.200 so far I've seen
00:42:22.660 no evidence
00:42:23.380 that this particular
00:42:24.180 22 year old
00:42:25.060 was a nutcase
00:42:26.820 in the truest sense
00:42:27.640 of that word
00:42:28.520 nor the guy
00:42:30.000 who shot Trump
00:42:30.780 and got shot himself
00:42:32.140 in Butler Pennsylvania
00:42:33.080 for that matter
00:42:33.900 now they may have been
00:42:35.320 20 something year old
00:42:36.380 men who had a break
00:42:37.240 but the evidence
00:42:38.160 on that is out
00:42:39.100 but but to raise
00:42:40.860 the speaker in Minneapolis
00:42:42.360 like or Minnesota
00:42:43.360 like she is in any way
00:42:45.060 comparable to Charlie
00:42:45.820 Kirk is a lie
00:42:46.560 the left is lying
00:42:48.120 it is their side
00:42:49.580 that does political violence
00:42:50.700 and because you might
00:42:51.740 be able to find
00:42:52.180 one random right wing
00:42:53.680 example
00:42:54.620 okay Paul Pelosi
00:42:55.720 was attacked
00:42:56.240 that wasn't a Republican
00:42:57.540 attacking Paul Pelosi
00:42:58.940 are you kidding me
00:42:59.820 the guy
00:43:00.480 everything around him
00:43:01.300 he was with the pride flag
00:43:02.860 and the BLM
00:43:03.740 and he was a nut too
00:43:05.540 but don't tell me
00:43:06.400 he was some Republican
00:43:07.340 doing Republican violence
00:43:08.500 against her husband
00:43:09.620 because they're Democrats
00:43:10.500 the things they pluck
00:43:11.980 are inapposite
00:43:13.760 as we would say
00:43:14.680 in our legal briefs
00:43:15.520 they don't fit
00:43:16.380 they're off point
00:43:17.540 and and while they do
00:43:19.360 that shit
00:43:19.780 they don't acknowledge
00:43:20.740 we had two
00:43:22.340 arguably three
00:43:23.420 presidential assassination
00:43:24.680 attempts on our guy
00:43:26.020 as he was inching
00:43:26.840 toward the polls
00:43:28.400 before November
00:43:29.320 of 2024
00:43:29.940 and his most
00:43:31.400 prominent supporter
00:43:32.480 there's not a more
00:43:33.780 prominent Trump
00:43:34.780 surrogate than Charlie
00:43:36.040 Kirk
00:43:36.320 was just gunned down
00:43:38.220 in the prime of his life
00:43:39.420 deal with that
00:43:40.740 imagine
00:43:43.140 the situation
00:43:44.440 if someone
00:43:45.800 shot
00:43:46.600 Barack Obama
00:43:48.140 Joe Biden
00:43:49.160 in the ear
00:43:49.960 and then
00:43:51.000 not long after
00:43:52.060 shot one of his
00:43:53.920 biggest supporters
00:43:55.240 or one of their
00:43:56.160 biggest supporters
00:43:56.780 in the neck
00:43:57.300 and killed them
00:43:57.880 I think that we would
00:43:59.520 be having a conversation
00:44:00.880 about the epidemic
00:44:01.620 of political violence
00:44:02.780 right now
00:44:04.080 what we're having
00:44:04.900 is well
00:44:05.580 what about this
00:44:06.480 and you know
00:44:07.020 it doesn't look
00:44:07.760 we're a nation
00:44:08.340 of 330
00:44:09.280 340 million people
00:44:10.620 you can have a time
00:44:12.180 in which 10 people
00:44:13.420 who are nominally
00:44:14.440 on the right
00:44:15.140 you know
00:44:16.500 or the left
00:44:17.100 you know
00:44:18.040 go out and do
00:44:18.940 terrible things
00:44:19.600 kill people
00:44:20.480 shoot people
00:44:21.440 burn things down
00:44:22.420 whatever it might be
00:44:23.220 that's not the
00:44:24.680 interesting thing
00:44:25.300 I'm sorry
00:44:26.280 it's just not
00:44:26.980 as far as trends go
00:44:28.620 the thing that bothers me
00:44:30.600 is my daughter
00:44:31.500 also said to me
00:44:32.220 she's like
00:44:32.540 it's going to be
00:44:32.940 Luigi Mangione
00:44:33.720 all over again
00:44:34.640 this is the 14 year old
00:44:35.880 very smart girl
00:44:37.460 I'll send you a text
00:44:38.660 this is the one
00:44:38.980 that's my fan
00:44:39.640 isn't it
00:44:40.140 yeah
00:44:40.320 she does
00:44:41.220 she sends me
00:44:41.900 she sends me clips
00:44:42.820 and I was like
00:44:43.840 could you please block Megan
00:44:45.520 you're getting radicalized
00:44:46.880 this is a little too much
00:44:48.660 you go to school
00:44:49.300 in New York City
00:44:49.880 she's in good hands
00:44:50.900 I got her
00:44:51.720 she's in very good hands
00:44:53.580 but the thing about this
00:44:55.160 is that again
00:44:55.960 it doesn't really matter to me
00:44:58.000 if we're keeping
00:44:58.800 this scorecard
00:44:59.460 it matters on how
00:45:00.320 people react to it
00:45:01.220 if there is
00:45:02.580 for instance
00:45:03.200 a bunch of people
00:45:03.940 who say
00:45:05.120 you know what
00:45:06.100 Mangione
00:45:06.620 yeah maybe you shouldn't
00:45:07.760 kill people
00:45:08.140 but do you know
00:45:08.600 what the
00:45:08.980 do you know
00:45:09.340 what the healthcare
00:45:09.860 companies do
00:45:10.580 it's like
00:45:11.540 this kind of reaction
00:45:12.760 is
00:45:13.200 remember when you guys
00:45:14.300 were on
00:45:14.780 right after that happened
00:45:16.040 and we refused
00:45:16.940 to have that conversation
00:45:17.980 right now
00:45:18.400 we was like
00:45:18.740 you could have a conversation
00:45:20.500 about healthcare
00:45:21.100 and insurance
00:45:21.920 and all that
00:45:22.400 it's totally inappropriate
00:45:23.820 to have it
00:45:24.420 right now
00:45:25.360 as the CEO
00:45:26.560 of United Healthcare
00:45:27.200 was killed
00:45:27.760 by some nutcase 0.87
00:45:29.060 over it
00:45:29.460 right
00:45:29.620 like by Luis Mangione
00:45:30.860 like no
00:45:31.600 we're not doing that
00:45:32.440 we refuse
00:45:33.120 and nobody else
00:45:35.060 will do that
00:45:35.600 that's all they want
00:45:37.100 to talk about
00:45:37.640 his murder
00:45:38.540 that part is true
00:45:39.400 sure
00:45:39.640 his murder
00:45:40.360 was defended
00:45:41.420 by somebody
00:45:42.840 who was previously
00:45:44.000 employed by both
00:45:45.480 the New York Times
00:45:45.940 and the Washington Post
00:45:46.660 in a big position
00:45:48.040 Taylor Lorenz
00:45:48.780 correct
00:45:49.680 I mean defending
00:45:51.080 a murder
00:45:52.080 and saying well you know
00:45:52.760 and then talking about
00:45:53.860 this on CNN
00:45:54.580 to the CNN
00:45:55.800 correspondents
00:45:56.700 chuckles
00:45:57.120 if you think that
00:45:58.040 I'm joking about this
00:45:59.000 chuckling
00:45:59.640 isn't that hilarious
00:46:02.380 that someone
00:46:02.900 was gunned down
00:46:03.700 and his kids
00:46:04.320 are left
00:46:05.260 fatherless again
00:46:06.540 if you treat
00:46:07.420 violence that way
00:46:08.560 if you're Brown University
00:46:10.240 and you buy
00:46:11.500 the papers
00:46:12.180 of Mumia Abu-Jamal
00:46:14.020 the prisoner
00:46:14.720 I guess he's not
00:46:15.780 on death row anymore
00:46:16.560 but he's in
00:46:17.220 prison for life
00:46:17.960 for shooting
00:46:18.820 a father down
00:46:19.880 in Philadelphia
00:46:22.140 in the early 1980s
00:46:23.800 killing a cop
00:46:24.580 but he was warm
00:46:25.640 and fuzzy
00:46:26.020 and had dreadlocks
00:46:26.860 and was on NPR
00:46:27.980 they used to put him
00:46:28.700 on NPR
00:46:29.040 they used to put him
00:46:29.760 radio commentaries
00:46:30.720 from this assassin
00:46:32.480 this murderer
00:46:33.540 but he had the right politics
00:46:34.980 if people on the right
00:46:37.000 I would
00:46:37.400 more sympathy
00:46:38.580 with Jessica Tarloff
00:46:39.420 and people
00:46:39.900 who were doing
00:46:40.700 the whataboutism
00:46:41.440 if there were people
00:46:42.620 on the right
00:46:43.080 who committed crimes
00:46:44.200 in the name
00:46:45.180 of conservative politics
00:46:46.360 and the rest of us
00:46:47.640 said well you know what
00:46:48.500 you know there's
00:46:50.040 by the way
00:46:50.460 I don't see a lot
00:46:52.000 of people going around
00:46:52.880 talking about how
00:46:54.000 Augusto Pinochet
00:46:54.940 in Chile
00:46:56.080 was the great hero
00:46:57.440 there's some people
00:46:58.020 they're called groipers 1.00
00:46:58.820 I mean there are people
00:46:59.300 that actually do
00:46:59.940 have these Pinochet
00:47:01.080 t-shirts
00:47:01.700 because he killed people
00:47:02.620 in this anti-communist
00:47:03.780 crusade
00:47:04.160 I mean I can find
00:47:05.480 if I walk down the street
00:47:06.300 with a Castro t-shirt
00:47:07.300 on in this city
00:47:08.140 or in this my neighborhood
00:47:09.000 nobody would
00:47:10.540 bat an eye
00:47:11.560 another murderer
00:47:13.280 of Latin American
00:47:14.480 dissidents
00:47:15.180 you might get a compliment
00:47:16.020 actually
00:47:16.600 you would absolutely
00:47:17.660 get a compliment
00:47:18.100 I'm very very exhausted
00:47:20.540 by this idea
00:47:21.980 that if you commit crimes
00:47:23.880 and your motivation
00:47:25.080 is the appropriate one
00:47:26.740 we excuse the crime
00:47:27.820 no no no
00:47:29.340 it's nonsense
00:47:30.000 I mean I disagree
00:47:31.400 I disagree with
00:47:32.380 virtually all of that
00:47:33.640 but I will say
00:47:34.360 like that clip
00:47:35.220 of Jessica and Greg
00:47:36.600 you agree or disagree
00:47:37.840 with all of that
00:47:38.560 you disagree with
00:47:39.560 Moynihan's point
00:47:40.120 I agree with all
00:47:41.080 of Moynihan's point
00:47:41.760 I was about to fire you
00:47:43.320 from the podcast
00:47:43.760 on air
00:47:45.620 the live fire
00:47:47.000 that was a shock
00:47:47.360 that was a shock to me
00:47:49.120 I was gonna say
00:47:51.660 was watching Jessica
00:47:52.960 and Greg's exchange
00:47:54.060 was actually kind of hard
00:47:54.960 because we know
00:47:56.280 both of them
00:47:56.980 I like Greg
00:47:58.380 and Jessica a lot
00:47:59.540 and it's
00:48:00.740 it's actually clear
00:48:01.740 in the clip
00:48:02.340 that they're both
00:48:03.020 like pretty emotional
00:48:03.900 like both of them
00:48:05.840 and I haven't seen
00:48:07.040 well I haven't seen
00:48:09.100 the whole clip
00:48:09.660 and I mean I think
00:48:10.340 it's it's certainly
00:48:11.160 fair for her to
00:48:12.120 like to have
00:48:13.440 complicated feelings
00:48:14.720 about
00:48:15.340 about all of
00:48:17.180 this circumstance
00:48:17.800 I'm confident
00:48:18.860 knowing the kind
00:48:19.680 of person Jessica
00:48:20.320 is that she is
00:48:21.660 sympathetic to Charlie
00:48:22.620 and his family
00:48:23.260 and I have to suspect
00:48:24.900 that she is like
00:48:25.640 condemned violence
00:48:26.560 because that's the
00:48:27.140 kind of person she is
00:48:28.180 what I suspect though
00:48:29.500 is that if the two
00:48:30.660 of them were having
00:48:31.600 a longer conversation
00:48:33.100 in a different context
00:48:34.540 away from cameras
00:48:35.380 and microphones
00:48:36.000 at a moment
00:48:36.880 when we're dealing
00:48:37.440 with so much raw emotion
00:48:38.720 my suspicion is
00:48:39.860 that they would agree
00:48:40.620 on much of the
00:48:41.580 most important things
00:48:42.680 but I suspect Greg
00:48:44.200 could even make
00:48:44.920 a forceful argument
00:48:45.680 that these two things
00:48:46.620 really are categorically
00:48:47.820 different
00:48:48.180 and that there really
00:48:49.440 is an issue
00:48:50.880 where you have had
00:48:52.080 for so long
00:48:52.940 a steady
00:48:53.560 steady drumbeat
00:48:54.700 of narrativizing
00:48:56.400 about the kind of
00:48:57.420 apocalyptic danger
00:48:58.700 about the genocidal
00:49:00.400 risk
00:49:00.900 of a particular
00:49:02.220 political faction
00:49:03.400 in this country
00:49:04.300 like that has been
00:49:05.360 happening for years
00:49:06.840 the phrase
00:49:07.860 transgenocide 1.00
00:49:08.720 is one that I
00:49:09.700 encountered yesterday
00:49:10.860 watching clips
00:49:11.620 of something
00:49:12.700 and it bears
00:49:14.320 no resemblance
00:49:15.600 to reality
00:49:16.300 whatsoever
00:49:16.900 and it's hard
00:49:18.020 to imagine
00:49:18.440 that it's also
00:49:18.940 not something
00:49:20.000 because it is
00:49:20.500 part of our
00:49:21.000 politics now
00:49:21.640 that isn't
00:49:22.280 helping to animate
00:49:23.240 some of the
00:49:23.900 consternation
00:49:24.700 and insanity
00:49:25.740 that contributes
00:49:26.780 to crazy acts
00:49:28.040 of violence
00:49:28.440 like this
00:49:28.840 ultimately
00:49:29.260 the individual
00:49:30.220 who has done
00:49:31.020 the thing
00:49:31.340 is responsible
00:49:31.920 we've had seven
00:49:31.960 mass shootings
00:49:32.620 just in the past
00:49:33.780 couple of years
00:49:34.320 by trans identified
00:49:35.580 shooters
00:49:35.980 seven
00:49:36.620 that just as
00:49:38.080 Charlie said
00:49:38.700 in a couple
00:49:39.960 of the last words
00:49:40.740 he ever spoke
00:49:41.400 how many
00:49:42.140 of these mass shootings
00:49:43.560 have been perpetrated
00:49:44.320 by trans shooters
00:49:45.120 too many
00:49:46.040 that's what he said
00:49:47.100 that's the truth
00:49:48.380 seven is a lot
00:49:49.860 given their percentage
00:49:50.860 of the population
00:49:51.720 there's something
00:49:52.540 wrong
00:49:53.240 that we need to
00:49:54.120 take very seriously
00:49:55.160 and not talking
00:49:57.600 about it
00:49:58.000 not being honest
00:49:58.740 about the connection
00:49:59.460 to that culture
00:50:00.240 and individuals
00:50:02.080 who are celebrating
00:50:03.040 it and may have
00:50:03.720 been in on it
00:50:04.400 to begin with
00:50:05.120 we'll find out
00:50:06.260 is deeply wrong
00:50:07.540 that is hashtag
00:50:08.160 part of the problem
00:50:08.860 and setting us up
00:50:09.480 for more violence
00:50:10.280 I wanted to add
00:50:11.460 to the woman 0.68
00:50:12.880 who was killed
00:50:13.240 in Minnesota
00:50:13.780 the speaker
00:50:14.260 of the house
00:50:14.740 there
00:50:15.000 she was killed
00:50:17.740 by this nutcase 0.88
00:50:18.920 who wrote
00:50:19.480 Tim Walz
00:50:20.300 had instructed him
00:50:21.740 to kill
00:50:22.680 other demonic
00:50:23.680 politicians
00:50:24.360 so if there was
00:50:24.980 any connection
00:50:25.680 by that guy
00:50:26.320 who had done
00:50:26.860 work with Tim Walz
00:50:27.620 by the way
00:50:28.060 it wasn't to Republicans
00:50:29.760 okay
00:50:30.900 we have a lot
00:50:31.980 more to get to
00:50:32.580 this Pam Bondi
00:50:33.440 statement on
00:50:34.240 hate speech
00:50:35.740 is nuts
00:50:36.720 and we're going
00:50:37.400 to talk about
00:50:37.780 the Candace
00:50:38.300 what's happening
00:50:39.520 between Candace
00:50:40.260 and Israel
00:50:42.120 and the Turning Point
00:50:43.400 group next
00:50:44.080 I've been talking
00:50:45.400 a lot about
00:50:45.900 Riverbend Ranch
00:50:46.680 lately because
00:50:47.480 their steaks are amazing
00:50:48.640 Riverbend Ranch
00:50:49.960 has taken
00:50:50.700 black Angus beef
00:50:51.860 to a whole new level
00:50:53.080 for the last 35 years
00:50:55.040 Riverbend Ranch
00:50:55.840 has been creating
00:50:56.400 a very elite Angus herd
00:50:57.980 by using ultrasound
00:50:59.140 to select
00:51:00.400 genetically superior cattle
00:51:02.120 with a focus
00:51:03.040 on flavor
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00:51:40.000 Megan
00:51:40.600 back with me now
00:51:48.380 Camille Foster
00:51:49.040 Michael Moynihan
00:51:49.840 and Matt Welsh
00:51:50.560 of the fifth column
00:51:51.480 I want to tell our
00:51:52.300 audience that today
00:51:53.140 over on Charlie's
00:51:54.580 show
00:51:55.220 you know
00:51:56.380 his wife Erica
00:51:56.940 said his show
00:51:57.580 will go on
00:51:58.440 and yesterday
00:51:59.760 we had
00:52:00.220 a substitute host
00:52:02.000 a host
00:52:04.180 of the vice president
00:52:06.620 J.D. Vance
00:52:07.380 hosted it
00:52:08.060 from the White House
00:52:08.780 today
00:52:09.520 it's the crew
00:52:10.880 from the Daily Wire
00:52:11.680 Ben Shapiro
00:52:12.420 Matt Walsh
00:52:13.680 and Michael Knowles
00:52:15.020 all together
00:52:15.660 in Charlie's studio
00:52:17.380 out in Arizona
00:52:18.740 so good for them
00:52:20.240 okay
00:52:21.800 and that leads me to
00:52:22.600 I'm going to lay out
00:52:23.200 what happens
00:52:23.700 what's going on here
00:52:25.240 with Candace
00:52:26.360 Bibi Netanyahu
00:52:27.920 and Bill Ackman
00:52:29.540 because
00:52:30.980 it kind of
00:52:32.900 leads up to
00:52:34.140 something that happened
00:52:34.960 between Charlie
00:52:36.220 and me
00:52:36.820 on this show
00:52:38.420 about a month ago
00:52:40.240 August 6th
00:52:41.760 okay
00:52:42.000 and the audience
00:52:42.500 experienced this
00:52:43.460 with me
00:52:44.120 so I'm just going to
00:52:45.120 set up what's happening
00:52:46.100 so everybody understands
00:52:46.920 Bibi Netanyahu
00:52:51.700 went on Fox News
00:52:53.480 on September 11th
00:52:55.780 the day after Charlie
00:52:56.580 was shot
00:52:57.040 and commented
00:52:58.800 on the loss
00:52:59.460 of the man
00:53:00.440 he said
00:53:00.900 was his friend
00:53:01.700 and here's that
00:53:02.800 in Satwan in part
00:53:03.760 he was an extraordinary friend
00:53:07.140 he
00:53:07.660 you know
00:53:08.900 he said
00:53:09.760 he wrote me a letter
00:53:10.860 on May 2nd
00:53:12.780 this year
00:53:13.560 he said
00:53:14.300 one of my greatest joys
00:53:15.620 as a Christian
00:53:16.320 is advocating
00:53:17.720 for Israel
00:53:18.400 and forming alliances
00:53:20.140 to defend
00:53:20.860 Judeo-Christian civilization
00:53:22.260 a few weeks
00:53:24.120 before
00:53:24.520 the tragedy
00:53:26.280 yesterday
00:53:27.060 I called him
00:53:28.840 and I spoke to him
00:53:30.060 and I said
00:53:30.500 please come to Israel 1.00
00:53:31.480 I invited him to Israel
00:53:32.620 and sadly
00:53:34.120 that visit
00:53:34.840 will not take place
00:53:35.720 but he was
00:53:36.360 he was a defender
00:53:37.720 of our common
00:53:38.900 Judeo-Christian civilization
00:53:40.100 he was
00:53:40.720 unbelievably excited
00:53:42.160 to walk
00:53:42.620 in the footsteps
00:53:43.120 of Jesus here
00:53:44.020 he
00:53:45.020 he valued our bond
00:53:46.800 the bond between
00:53:47.440 America and Israel
00:53:48.280 okay
00:53:51.020 so
00:53:51.540 Candace
00:53:52.220 who's been critical
00:53:52.840 of Israel
00:53:53.320 in this conflict
00:53:54.200 did not appreciate
00:53:56.120 that we had a foreign leader
00:53:58.080 reading part
00:53:59.700 of Charlie's letter
00:54:00.680 trying to characterize
00:54:01.780 his stance on Israel
00:54:02.980 without giving it
00:54:04.480 its full measure
00:54:05.280 because
00:54:06.120 it had changed
00:54:07.140 a bit
00:54:07.760 in recent months
00:54:09.480 and she is not wrong
00:54:11.060 about that
00:54:11.600 she responded
00:54:13.960 on her show
00:54:14.800 and Candace
00:54:16.560 was very good friends
00:54:17.500 with Charlie
00:54:17.920 I mean
00:54:18.380 she called herself
00:54:19.160 a mason
00:54:19.680 of Turning Point
00:54:20.480 and she is
00:54:21.580 she is
00:54:22.700 she helped
00:54:24.080 build that group
00:54:24.840 when she was coming up
00:54:26.040 and Charlie was coming up
00:54:26.820 and they're both very young
00:54:27.580 they were out there
00:54:28.640 at many events together
00:54:29.900 before anybody knew
00:54:31.220 the name Turning Point
00:54:32.240 or Charlie Kirk
00:54:33.120 for that matter
00:54:33.680 and I was actually
00:54:35.180 very moved
00:54:35.780 by the video montage
00:54:37.240 she showed
00:54:37.840 of pictures
00:54:38.800 of her and Charlie
00:54:40.220 together
00:54:40.640 singing together
00:54:42.040 and dancing
00:54:42.500 having a great time
00:54:43.460 you know
00:54:44.460 they were young
00:54:45.120 in this business
00:54:45.680 and figuring things out
00:54:47.480 so I believe
00:54:48.940 Candace is sincere
00:54:50.600 in her upset 0.63
00:54:51.400 around Charlie's
00:54:53.160 everything
00:54:54.100 I mean obviously
00:54:55.060 around Charlie's death
00:54:55.900 but around people
00:54:56.780 trying to talk
00:54:57.620 for him
00:54:58.740 and sort of
00:55:00.140 summarize his position
00:55:01.300 on something
00:55:01.740 as controversial
00:55:02.400 as Israel
00:55:03.660 so here is what
00:55:05.360 she said
00:55:06.120 again in part
00:55:06.660 you should go watch
00:55:07.220 her show
00:55:07.520 to hear the full measure
00:55:08.300 but here is what
00:55:09.720 she said
00:55:10.220 in response
00:55:10.880 to Netanyahu
00:55:11.500 on her show
00:55:12.420 just the other day
00:55:13.980 it's up too
00:55:14.520 no there definitely
00:55:16.640 is a little bit
00:55:17.640 more to the story
00:55:18.740 first and foremost
00:55:19.380 that letter
00:55:19.940 he is holding up
00:55:21.240 he is severely
00:55:21.960 misrepresenting
00:55:22.980 those sentences
00:55:24.020 are real
00:55:24.840 but I am calling
00:55:26.340 upon Bibi Netanyahu
00:55:27.500 the dear friend
00:55:28.180 to Charlie Kirk
00:55:28.840 to publish the
00:55:30.360 letter's entire contents
00:55:31.760 like don't start
00:55:32.420 with just two sentences
00:55:33.820 publish the entire thing
00:55:36.040 you're holding it
00:55:37.720 I'm saying
00:55:39.060 you're severely
00:55:39.680 misrepresenting
00:55:41.040 the contents
00:55:42.660 that in May
00:55:44.180 Charlie was concerned
00:55:45.600 about Israel
00:55:47.520 and their influence
00:55:49.860 on American politics
00:55:51.160 and how they were
00:55:52.700 pushing things
00:55:53.800 that he felt
00:55:54.640 were in conflict
00:55:56.240 with his beliefs
00:55:56.960 free speech
00:55:57.720 here in America
00:55:59.360 Bibi's holding it up
00:56:01.620 like Charlie
00:56:02.140 just in May
00:56:02.840 said hey you know what
00:56:03.780 I just want to write
00:56:04.760 a love letter to Israel
00:56:05.680 that's how it was presented
00:56:06.880 would you guys agree
00:56:07.580 that's not how it happened
00:56:08.920 so she's basically
00:56:12.180 suggesting he's leaving
00:56:13.380 out an important piece
00:56:14.400 of Charlie's evolution
00:56:15.280 on Israel
00:56:16.800 she went on
00:56:18.380 to talk about
00:56:19.000 and this is the first
00:56:19.620 I had heard this news
00:56:20.500 a meeting
00:56:22.660 that Charlie had
00:56:24.280 at the home
00:56:24.780 of Bill Ackman
00:56:25.700 in the Hamptons
00:56:26.660 on October 5th
00:56:30.160 sorry
00:56:30.460 August
00:56:31.220 August 5th
00:56:32.880 with a bunch
00:56:34.400 of influencers
00:56:35.680 as it was described
00:56:37.320 by Bill Ackman
00:56:38.260 later
00:56:38.580 some of whom
00:56:39.320 he said were pro-Israel
00:56:40.320 and some of whom
00:56:41.000 he said maybe not so much
00:56:42.440 and there was a meeting
00:56:44.880 at Bill Ackman's
00:56:45.720 Hamptons home
00:56:46.480 Charlie was there
00:56:47.380 so were some other
00:56:48.100 so-called influencers
00:56:49.300 and Candace
00:56:51.000 suggests that
00:56:52.640 at that meeting
00:56:53.460 Bill Ackman
00:56:54.420 pressured Charlie
00:56:55.620 who had
00:56:56.960 he was very supportive
00:56:58.340 of Israel
00:56:58.780 do not get me wrong
00:56:59.540 I mean
00:57:00.020 I know
00:57:00.920 I spoke with Charlie
00:57:02.020 directly about this
00:57:02.660 but he was starting
00:57:03.820 to have the same
00:57:04.640 doubts
00:57:06.400 questions
00:57:07.300 about whether
00:57:07.760 this could continue
00:57:08.800 without Israel 0.99
00:57:09.520 losing all of its
00:57:10.520 support in the world
00:57:11.240 as I was
00:57:12.560 and he and I
00:57:13.780 had a long talk
00:57:14.620 about our frustration
00:57:15.940 at being dubbed
00:57:16.960 anti-Zionist
00:57:18.280 or anti-Israel
00:57:19.280 or anti-Semites
00:57:20.420 even
00:57:20.700 just for those
00:57:22.540 very mild criticisms
00:57:24.380 I mean
00:57:24.900 it was
00:57:25.420 it was fucked up 0.50
00:57:26.820 okay
00:57:27.100 it really was
00:57:27.900 and he was frustrated
00:57:28.600 by that
00:57:28.920 and so was I
00:57:29.540 now Candace
00:57:31.680 had a different
00:57:32.720 characterization
00:57:33.220 of that meeting
00:57:34.140 than the one
00:57:34.720 you're going to hear
00:57:35.100 from Bill Ackman
00:57:35.820 and hers
00:57:37.500 dovetails
00:57:37.920 with this reporter
00:57:38.600 Max Blumenthal
00:57:39.540 who also reported
00:57:40.900 on the meeting
00:57:41.440 here is what
00:57:42.560 she said
00:57:43.320 again in part
00:57:44.380 in
00:57:45.260 SOT 4
00:57:47.060 where she said
00:57:47.840 they had this meeting
00:57:49.780 and she suggested
00:57:50.780 that meeting
00:57:51.200 with BB
00:57:51.860 occurred
00:57:52.580 while Charlie
00:57:53.800 was at that meeting
00:57:54.520 at Bill Ackman's
00:57:55.160 house in the Hamptons
00:57:55.780 a couple of weeks ago
00:57:58.300 before Charlie
00:57:59.040 lost his life
00:58:00.660 Charlie
00:58:02.160 was
00:58:03.200 in
00:58:03.900 the Hamptons
00:58:04.960 and he had
00:58:06.440 more than one event
00:58:09.540 but he had
00:58:10.740 essentially
00:58:12.080 what was staged
00:58:12.880 an intervention
00:58:14.040 was staged
00:58:15.440 by Bill Ackman
00:58:16.960 because Charlie's
00:58:18.820 thoughts
00:58:19.520 Charlie's rational
00:58:20.900 thoughts
00:58:21.780 about Israel
00:58:22.900 were a no-no
00:58:24.460 this is
00:58:25.380 this is not
00:58:25.940 the route
00:58:26.440 that you should
00:58:27.160 be going on
00:58:28.040 and Charlie
00:58:29.340 was surrounded
00:58:29.980 by his friends
00:58:31.200 his quote unquote
00:58:31.960 friends
00:58:32.660 Bill Ackman
00:58:34.240 was very upset
00:58:36.240 and
00:58:37.700 threats were made
00:58:39.240 it was
00:58:40.140 at this time
00:58:41.120 that BB Netanyahu 0.85
00:58:42.320 was called
00:58:43.100 and Charlie
00:58:43.720 was invited
00:58:44.500 to Israel
00:58:45.280 this was
00:58:46.240 an under duress
00:58:47.620 situation
00:58:48.340 I would say
00:58:49.240 and I know
00:58:50.220 that Charlie
00:58:50.960 was offered
00:58:51.780 a ton
00:58:52.740 of money
00:58:53.600 in this moment
00:58:54.860 a ton
00:58:55.780 of money
00:58:56.200 BB would fund
00:58:57.100 it
00:58:57.360 you know
00:58:57.880 spend tons
00:58:59.300 of money
00:59:00.340 and turning point
00:59:01.820 I guess
00:59:02.480 if it needed
00:59:03.060 to go to a
00:59:03.640 higher level
00:59:04.120 would have
00:59:04.860 gone to
00:59:05.320 an even
00:59:05.600 higher level
00:59:06.260 than it
00:59:06.520 already was
00:59:07.000 at
00:59:07.420 and I know
00:59:08.900 for a fact
00:59:09.440 that Charlie
00:59:10.080 denied
00:59:11.680 that funding
00:59:12.500 that Charlie
00:59:13.820 denied
00:59:14.680 and what BB
00:59:15.260 didn't include
00:59:15.800 there
00:59:16.160 he declined
00:59:17.820 to go to
00:59:18.860 Israel
00:59:19.300 okay
00:59:21.440 here's more
00:59:22.160 this Max
00:59:23.800 Blumenthal
00:59:24.320 reporting
00:59:26.160 he reports
00:59:26.740 he writes
00:59:27.120 for his own
00:59:27.440 outlet
00:59:27.880 called
00:59:28.160 Gray Zone
00:59:28.680 he used
00:59:28.960 to work
00:59:29.140 for the
00:59:29.320 Daily Beast
00:59:29.760 the Nation
00:59:30.280 Media Matters
00:59:31.720 which explains
00:59:32.380 why in his
00:59:32.800 reporting
00:59:33.100 he referred
00:59:33.540 to me
00:59:33.780 as an
00:59:34.020 anti-Zionist
00:59:34.920 wrong
00:59:35.660 Max
00:59:36.120 I'm totally
00:59:36.900 a Zionist
00:59:37.480 I completely
00:59:38.200 believe in
00:59:38.620 Israel's 0.75
00:59:39.000 right to
00:59:39.300 exist
00:59:39.580 and I've
00:59:40.160 defended
00:59:40.500 their right
00:59:40.940 to defend
00:59:41.340 themselves
00:59:41.700 after the
00:59:42.180 disgusting
00:59:43.080 horrendous
00:59:43.980 terrorist
00:59:44.300 attack
00:59:44.680 on them
00:59:45.120 in 2023
00:59:46.340 so get
00:59:47.000 it straight
00:59:47.440 but in
00:59:48.240 any event
00:59:48.580 he too
00:59:49.220 reported
00:59:50.460 that
00:59:50.980 the
00:59:51.960 Ackman 0.95
00:59:52.480 outing
00:59:53.260 was an
00:59:54.300 intervention
00:59:54.900 he used
00:59:55.780 during which
00:59:56.540 sources say
00:59:57.360 he and others
00:59:58.200 hammered Charlie
00:59:59.160 that Charlie
00:59:59.940 came away
01:00:00.480 fretting about
01:00:01.120 Israeli
01:00:01.580 blackmail
01:00:02.340 he says
01:00:03.720 he's spoken
01:00:04.080 to five
01:00:04.440 people with
01:00:04.880 intimate
01:00:05.160 knowledge
01:00:05.520 of Kirk's
01:00:06.180 meeting
01:00:06.520 and that
01:00:07.740 that he
01:00:09.020 he alleged
01:00:09.920 that Ackman
01:00:10.640 personally
01:00:10.980 confronted Kirk
01:00:11.880 about his
01:00:12.500 views on
01:00:12.800 Israel
01:00:13.160 an unknown
01:00:13.780 British woman
01:00:14.360 joined in
01:00:14.960 the argument
01:00:15.400 began
01:00:15.740 screaming 0.51
01:00:16.220 at Charlie
01:00:16.840 when his
01:00:18.560 host presented
01:00:19.180 him with a
01:00:19.580 detailed list
01:00:20.080 of every
01:00:20.460 offense he
01:00:20.900 supposedly
01:00:21.300 committed
01:00:21.660 against
01:00:21.960 Israel
01:00:22.340 Charlie
01:00:22.960 was
01:00:23.140 horrified
01:00:23.780 said one
01:00:24.200 person
01:00:24.740 Ackman 0.95
01:00:26.020 also allegedly
01:00:26.700 demanded that
01:00:27.260 Kirk rescind
01:00:27.920 his invitation
01:00:28.520 for Tucker
01:00:29.340 Carlson to
01:00:29.880 speak at his
01:00:30.260 upcoming
01:00:30.560 America Fest
01:00:31.440 2025
01:00:32.160 in December
01:00:33.360 Ackman 0.95
01:00:35.140 he came
01:00:36.520 under fire
01:00:36.840 too because
01:00:37.280 he had
01:00:37.620 tweeted out
01:00:38.100 recently
01:00:38.420 I feel
01:00:38.720 incredibly
01:00:39.100 privileged
01:00:39.440 to have
01:00:39.680 spent a
01:00:40.000 day and
01:00:40.300 shared a
01:00:40.580 meal with
01:00:40.860 Charlie
01:00:41.080 Kirk
01:00:41.280 in the
01:00:41.540 summer
01:00:41.800 he was
01:00:42.400 a giant
01:00:42.720 of a
01:00:42.940 man
01:00:43.140 and once
01:00:43.580 again
01:00:43.880 Candace
01:00:44.600 and others
01:00:44.840 suggesting
01:00:45.240 that's not
01:00:45.840 the whole
01:00:46.080 story
01:00:46.360 because
01:00:46.620 if he
01:00:46.820 really
01:00:47.020 was
01:00:47.280 threatening
01:00:48.020 Charlie
01:00:48.460 that's a
01:00:49.020 weird tweet
01:00:49.660 you know
01:00:50.400 an incomplete
01:00:51.040 tweet
01:00:51.460 now
01:00:52.780 Bill Ackman
01:00:54.120 responds
01:00:54.620 as only
01:00:55.180 Bill Ackman
01:00:55.780 can we be
01:00:56.220 here for
01:00:56.500 another three
01:00:57.120 hours if I
01:00:57.600 read you
01:00:57.860 his whole
01:00:58.180 response
01:00:58.540 as you
01:00:58.920 guys know
01:00:59.320 the Ackman
01:01:00.140 tweets are
01:01:00.600 just legendary
01:01:01.220 for their
01:01:01.720 49 paragraphs
01:01:03.840 minimum
01:01:04.240 but this
01:01:05.580 but this one
01:01:05.720 deserved a
01:01:06.200 bit of a
01:01:06.480 response
01:01:06.800 because he's
01:01:07.240 being accused
01:01:07.760 of something
01:01:08.140 pretty vile
01:01:08.680 and he
01:01:10.440 described these
01:01:11.280 accounts as
01:01:12.280 totally false
01:01:13.280 I think I can
01:01:14.500 easily put this
01:01:15.020 to bed
01:01:15.300 he promised I
01:01:15.880 have receipts
01:01:16.360 as they say
01:01:16.940 he did not
01:01:18.180 abide when
01:01:19.400 asked to
01:01:19.960 provide the
01:01:20.560 so-called
01:01:21.000 receipts
01:01:21.520 reports
01:01:21.960 Max Blumenthal
01:01:23.780 but Ackman
01:01:25.260 did go
01:01:25.920 on X
01:01:27.460 and said
01:01:27.960 I've been
01:01:28.280 slandered by
01:01:28.840 Candace Owens
01:01:29.500 she'll be
01:01:31.000 responding
01:01:31.480 I'm sure
01:01:31.900 shortly
01:01:33.120 of staging
01:01:34.380 an intervention
01:01:34.900 with Charlie
01:01:35.460 in which
01:01:36.120 threats were
01:01:36.600 made
01:01:36.920 he says
01:01:38.560 it's not
01:01:39.640 true
01:01:40.000 at no time
01:01:40.840 have I ever
01:01:41.440 threatened Charlie
01:01:42.060 Turning Point
01:01:42.480 or anyone
01:01:42.840 associated with
01:01:43.420 him
01:01:43.500 I've never
01:01:43.800 blackmailed
01:01:44.360 anyone
01:01:44.580 let alone
01:01:44.980 Charlie
01:01:45.340 I've never
01:01:45.720 offered Charlie
01:01:46.280 or Turning Point
01:01:46.700 any money
01:01:47.240 in an attempt
01:01:47.960 to influence
01:01:48.500 them
01:01:48.820 I connected
01:01:49.960 with Charlie
01:01:50.300 when he
01:01:50.640 had DM'd
01:01:51.200 me in late
01:01:51.940 May of this
01:01:52.380 year and
01:01:52.660 expressed
01:01:52.940 interest in
01:01:53.400 meeting me
01:01:53.900 on the
01:01:54.920 Zoom
01:01:55.140 he explained
01:01:55.600 to me
01:01:55.820 that conservatives
01:01:56.460 in particular
01:01:57.020 young ones
01:01:57.660 were getting
01:01:58.280 tired of
01:01:58.760 defending Israel
01:01:59.440 and this
01:01:59.680 is very
01:01:59.960 concerning
01:02:00.300 to him
01:02:00.720 he suggested
01:02:01.900 Bill Ackman
01:02:02.960 says Charlie
01:02:03.620 that recruiting
01:02:04.620 a group
01:02:05.060 of junior
01:02:06.160 Charlie
01:02:07.020 Kirks 0.99
01:02:07.380 who could
01:02:07.820 host
01:02:08.320 open mic
01:02:08.880 sessions
01:02:09.200 on college
01:02:09.640 campuses
01:02:10.000 would be
01:02:10.320 an effective
01:02:10.680 way to
01:02:10.980 encourage
01:02:11.280 debate
01:02:11.680 and a host
01:02:12.620 of issues
01:02:13.020 an approach
01:02:13.400 he believed
01:02:13.760 would be
01:02:13.940 worthy
01:02:14.180 of consideration
01:02:14.860 and better
01:02:16.120 enable students
01:02:16.740 to get to
01:02:17.080 the truth
01:02:17.400 I was interested
01:02:18.440 in learning
01:02:18.720 more
01:02:18.980 we scheduled
01:02:19.420 a series
01:02:19.780 of conference
01:02:20.240 calls
01:02:20.600 between
01:02:21.560 Turning Point
01:02:22.100 staff members
01:02:22.800 and members
01:02:23.180 of my team
01:02:23.780 and then
01:02:24.520 we assembled
01:02:25.200 this diverse
01:02:25.740 group of
01:02:26.120 influencers
01:02:26.540 for a day
01:02:27.460 and a half
01:02:27.740 session
01:02:28.120 we chose
01:02:28.940 the afternoon
01:02:29.360 of August
01:02:30.480 4th
01:02:31.140 to the afternoon
01:02:31.880 of August
01:02:32.560 5th
01:02:33.100 for the
01:02:33.360 convening
01:02:33.800 Charlie
01:02:34.320 and members
01:02:34.660 of my team
01:02:35.040 worked to put
01:02:35.460 together
01:02:35.780 I offered
01:02:36.800 to host
01:02:37.140 the sessions
01:02:37.720 so that I
01:02:38.420 could attend
01:02:38.920 some
01:02:40.040 Charlie
01:02:41.320 sent out
01:02:41.600 the invitations
01:02:42.080 about 35
01:02:42.680 or so
01:02:43.000 influencers
01:02:43.440 accepted
01:02:43.960 Charlie
01:02:44.280 and Turning
01:02:44.620 Point
01:02:44.760 put together
01:02:45.200 the agenda
01:02:45.780 some
01:02:46.880 some
01:02:46.900 were
01:02:47.060 critical
01:02:47.660 of
01:02:47.880 Israel
01:02:48.120 some
01:02:48.380 were
01:02:48.540 supportive
01:02:49.080 at the
01:02:50.200 end
01:02:50.360 I
01:02:50.480 sat
01:02:50.640 with
01:02:50.780 Charlie
01:02:51.040 and
01:02:51.160 members
01:02:51.320 of
01:02:51.400 my
01:02:51.520 team
01:02:51.680 we discussed
01:02:52.040 the events
01:02:52.360 of the evening
01:02:52.740 Charlie
01:02:52.980 believed he
01:02:53.420 had identified
01:02:53.880 a number
01:02:54.260 of potential
01:02:54.680 Turning Point
01:02:55.080 ambassadors
01:02:55.560 who could
01:02:56.440 launch open
01:02:56.880 mic events
01:02:57.360 on campus
01:02:57.920 and would
01:02:58.680 then follow
01:02:59.100 up with
01:02:59.480 them
01:02:59.740 we agreed
01:03:00.300 to keep
01:03:00.560 in touch
01:03:00.820 thereafter
01:03:01.200 we
01:03:01.400 corresponded
01:03:01.880 by text
01:03:02.340 over the
01:03:02.640 next few
01:03:02.960 weeks
01:03:03.280 this was
01:03:04.160 not an
01:03:04.460 intervention
01:03:04.860 to blackmail
01:03:05.380 Charlie
01:03:05.740 into adopting
01:03:06.440 certain views
01:03:07.120 on Israel
01:03:07.580 it was
01:03:07.880 nothing
01:03:08.280 of the
01:03:09.160 sort
01:03:09.440 Candace
01:03:09.840 did respond
01:03:10.480 in part
01:03:11.560 on X
01:03:11.960 last night
01:03:12.420 saying
01:03:13.260 I know
01:03:13.940 feigning
01:03:14.260 victimhood
01:03:14.860 is kind
01:03:15.300 of an
01:03:15.560 Israeli
01:03:16.020 brand
01:03:16.420 thing
01:03:16.780 but I
01:03:17.140 was
01:03:17.280 clear
01:03:17.500 that
01:03:17.700 Charlie
01:03:17.960 felt
01:03:18.280 blackmailed
01:03:18.880 by
01:03:19.040 the
01:03:19.540 offer
01:03:19.800 to
01:03:19.960 fund
01:03:20.260 TPUSA
01:03:21.020 which
01:03:21.180 he
01:03:21.320 refused
01:03:21.760 meaning
01:03:22.000 from
01:03:22.340 Netanyahu
01:03:22.920 I think
01:03:23.140 she means
01:03:23.420 here
01:03:23.600 no one
01:03:24.400 said
01:03:24.580 Bill
01:03:24.800 Ackman 0.95
01:03:25.140 blackmailed
01:03:25.680 Charlie
01:03:25.980 try to
01:03:26.600 resist
01:03:26.800 the urge
01:03:27.160 to rewrite
01:03:27.540 history
01:03:27.940 and she
01:03:29.080 goes on
01:03:29.560 saying
01:03:30.160 people
01:03:30.540 in
01:03:30.800 attendance
01:03:31.160 did
01:03:31.580 characterize
01:03:32.020 it
01:03:32.300 as
01:03:32.600 an
01:03:33.180 intervention
01:03:33.820 here
01:03:36.220 is
01:03:36.780 where
01:03:37.460 I'm
01:03:38.200 going
01:03:38.400 with
01:03:38.600 it
01:03:38.780 Andrew
01:03:41.280 Colvitt
01:03:41.680 who is
01:03:42.500 Charlie's
01:03:42.820 right-hand
01:03:43.100 man
01:03:43.360 at
01:03:43.940 Turning
01:03:44.340 Point
01:03:44.540 we know
01:03:44.800 him
01:03:44.940 well
01:03:45.160 wrote
01:03:46.860 the
01:03:47.060 following
01:03:47.380 I've
01:03:47.600 been
01:03:47.700 asked
01:03:48.040 about
01:03:48.260 this
01:03:48.460 weekend
01:03:48.800 event
01:03:49.100 with
01:03:49.340 Bill
01:03:49.500 Ackman 0.95
01:03:49.760 more
01:03:49.940 than
01:03:50.060 a few
01:03:50.240 times
01:03:50.500 now
01:03:50.680 so
01:03:50.900 I
01:03:51.040 asked
01:03:51.220 our
01:03:51.340 staff
01:03:51.620 who
01:03:51.740 were
01:03:51.820 traveling
01:03:52.100 with
01:03:52.280 Charlie
01:03:52.480 to find
01:03:52.800 out
01:03:52.900 what's
01:03:53.100 true
01:03:53.340 his
01:03:54.180 team
01:03:54.440 was
01:03:54.560 with
01:03:54.700 him
01:03:54.800 100%
01:03:55.320 of
01:03:55.400 the
01:03:55.480 time
01:03:55.680 when
01:03:55.800 he
01:03:55.880 was
01:03:56.420 not
01:03:56.600 in
01:03:56.740 his
01:03:56.880 hotel
01:03:57.140 room
01:03:57.420 here's
01:03:57.740 what
01:03:57.820 they
01:03:57.940 told
01:03:58.140 me
01:03:58.400 Bill
01:03:58.900 never
01:03:59.120 yelled
01:04:08.780 Charlie
01:04:19.580 personally
01:04:19.960 told
01:04:20.300 me
01:04:20.620 says
01:04:20.900 Andrew
01:04:21.200 he had
01:04:21.720 a very
01:04:21.960 cordial
01:04:22.700 relationship
01:04:23.140 with
01:04:23.360 Bill
01:04:23.560 and
01:04:23.720 the
01:04:23.840 event
01:04:24.040 was
01:04:24.240 productive
01:04:24.740 those
01:04:25.500 are
01:04:25.960 the
01:04:26.240 facts
01:04:26.660 well
01:04:27.220 here
01:04:27.600 is
01:04:28.280 the
01:04:28.440 reason
01:04:28.680 I
01:04:28.920 am
01:04:29.060 weighing
01:04:29.340 in
01:04:29.640 I
01:04:29.900 wasn't
01:04:30.180 there
01:04:30.380 and
01:04:30.520 I
01:04:30.580 don't
01:04:30.680 know
01:04:30.800 what
01:04:30.920 happened
01:04:31.240 but
01:04:31.900 the
01:04:32.080 day
01:04:32.440 Charlie
01:04:32.960 was
01:04:33.860 done
01:04:34.200 with
01:04:34.440 that
01:04:35.000 summit
01:04:35.440 at
01:04:36.180 Ackman's 0.97
01:04:36.660 house
01:04:36.920 he
01:04:37.400 came
01:04:37.680 on
01:04:37.840 my
01:04:38.080 show
01:04:38.340 it
01:04:38.520 was
01:04:38.640 his
01:04:39.000 last
01:04:39.280 appearance
01:04:39.600 on
01:04:39.800 the
01:04:39.900 Megyn Kelly
01:04:40.560 show
01:04:40.860 on
01:04:41.540 August
01:04:41.880 6th
01:04:43.320 and
01:04:43.580 I
01:04:43.900 asked
01:04:44.400 him
01:04:44.680 about
01:04:45.340 his
01:04:45.760 evolving
01:04:46.360 views
01:04:46.820 on
01:04:47.100 Israel
01:04:47.500 and
01:04:48.480 about
01:04:48.920 the
01:04:49.120 criticism
01:04:49.500 we
01:04:49.720 both
01:04:50.020 had
01:04:50.160 come
01:04:50.380 under
01:04:50.700 for
01:04:50.900 honestly
01:04:51.440 like
01:04:51.660 the
01:04:51.800 most
01:04:51.980 milquetoast
01:04:52.860 criticisms
01:04:53.400 of
01:04:53.760 Israel
01:04:54.160 it
01:04:54.380 was
01:04:54.600 just
01:04:54.780 crazy
01:04:55.380 I
01:04:56.320 don't
01:04:56.460 think
01:04:56.640 Charlie
01:04:56.960 actually
01:04:57.320 even
01:04:57.560 really
01:04:57.820 did
01:04:58.060 criticize
01:04:58.480 Israel
01:04:58.820 I
01:04:58.980 think
01:04:59.120 he
01:04:59.200 just
01:04:59.400 hosted
01:04:59.800 his
01:05:00.600 turning
01:05:01.120 point
01:05:01.300 event
01:05:01.480 in
01:05:01.620 July
01:05:01.960 in
01:05:02.800 which
01:05:02.960 he
01:05:03.060 had
01:05:03.200 tons
01:05:03.620 of
01:05:03.800 pro
01:05:04.000 Israel
01:05:04.280 people
01:05:04.600 tons
01:05:05.100 but
01:05:05.700 also
01:05:06.060 Dave
01:05:06.380 Smith
01:05:06.680 was
01:05:07.000 there
01:05:07.220 who's
01:05:07.480 a
01:05:07.580 critic
01:05:07.800 and
01:05:08.460 Tucker
01:05:08.700 was
01:05:08.920 there
01:05:09.120 who's
01:05:09.440 become
01:05:09.700 a bit
01:05:09.940 of a
01:05:10.140 critic
01:05:10.380 a
01:05:11.960 critic
01:05:12.260 and
01:05:13.120 he
01:05:14.260 got
01:05:14.560 so
01:05:14.880 much
01:05:15.100 shit
01:05:15.280 for
01:05:15.440 this
01:05:15.700 and
01:05:16.000 Charlie
01:05:16.280 was
01:05:16.440 really
01:05:16.900 frustrated
01:05:17.500 by
01:05:17.800 this
01:05:18.100 and
01:05:18.380 annoyed
01:05:18.920 because
01:05:19.780 no
01:05:21.160 young
01:05:21.420 person
01:05:21.740 no
01:05:21.920 person
01:05:22.180 under
01:05:22.720 30
01:05:23.040 in
01:05:23.180 America
01:05:23.440 supports
01:05:23.820 Israel
01:05:24.100 they
01:05:24.880 just
01:05:25.040 don't
01:05:25.260 look
01:05:25.400 at
01:05:25.480 the
01:05:25.580 polls
01:05:25.800 doesn't
01:05:26.640 matter
01:05:26.800 whether
01:05:26.980 you're
01:05:27.120 conservative
01:05:27.500 or not
01:05:27.800 like
01:05:27.980 virtually
01:05:28.740 none
01:05:29.000 of
01:05:29.120 them
01:05:29.280 and
01:05:29.580 that
01:05:29.840 was
01:05:30.020 Charlie's
01:05:30.480 constituency
01:05:31.080 and
01:05:31.780 Charlie
01:05:32.160 was
01:05:32.400 hearing
01:05:32.780 from
01:05:33.580 those
01:05:33.840 people
01:05:34.140 that
01:05:34.820 they
01:05:34.940 were
01:05:35.060 not
01:05:35.380 into
01:05:35.600 this
01:05:35.780 and
01:05:35.860 they
01:05:35.980 really
01:05:36.240 weren't
01:05:36.560 into
01:05:36.800 our
01:05:36.980 support
01:05:37.340 for
01:05:37.620 the
01:05:37.800 war
01:05:37.980 in
01:05:38.060 Iran
01:05:38.420 and
01:05:38.600 bombing
01:05:38.920 Iran
01:05:39.280 and
01:05:39.460 all
01:05:39.560 that
01:05:39.660 he
01:05:40.200 was
01:05:40.360 trying
01:05:40.560 to
01:05:40.680 find
01:05:40.840 a
01:05:48.920 the
01:05:49.080 same
01:05:49.360 and
01:05:49.560 both
01:05:49.860 of
01:05:49.980 us
01:05:50.120 got
01:05:50.300 treated
01:05:50.660 like
01:05:51.420 we
01:05:51.880 are
01:05:52.240 Mehdi
01:05:52.660 Hassan
01:05:53.260 and
01:05:54.140 we
01:05:54.300 were
01:05:54.480 annoyed
01:05:54.900 we
01:05:55.520 were
01:05:55.620 both
01:05:55.860 annoyed
01:05:56.200 by
01:05:56.780 that
01:05:57.020 so
01:05:58.420 we
01:05:58.600 had
01:05:58.800 the
01:05:58.940 conversation
01:05:59.380 I
01:05:59.600 did
01:05:59.740 not
01:05:59.920 tell
01:06:00.140 Charlie
01:06:00.440 we
01:06:00.580 were
01:06:00.680 going
01:06:00.780 to
01:06:00.860 discuss
01:06:01.140 it
01:06:01.360 usually
01:06:01.900 when
01:06:02.080 guests
01:06:02.260 are
01:06:02.360 coming
01:06:02.500 on
01:06:02.600 the
01:06:02.660 show
01:06:02.780 we'll
01:06:02.920 give
01:06:03.000 a
01:06:03.120 heads
01:06:03.280 up
01:06:03.420 in
01:06:04.000 case
01:06:04.140 they
01:06:04.260 want
01:06:04.380 to
01:06:04.440 study
01:06:04.620 up
01:06:04.820 on
01:06:04.940 something
01:06:05.160 whatever
01:06:05.380 these
01:06:05.740 are
01:06:05.860 probably
01:06:06.100 generally
01:06:06.460 the
01:06:06.740 8 to
01:06:07.460 10
01:06:07.580 topics
01:06:07.880 we're
01:06:08.040 going
01:06:08.120 to
01:06:08.180 hit
01:06:08.320 and
01:06:09.260 we
01:06:09.500 did
01:06:09.640 not
01:06:09.820 give
01:06:09.980 him
01:06:10.140 heads
01:06:10.360 up
01:06:10.520 on
01:06:10.640 this
01:06:10.760 because
01:06:10.900 I
01:06:11.020 didn't
01:06:11.140 even
01:06:11.280 tell
01:06:11.400 my
01:06:11.560 team
01:06:11.740 on
01:06:11.880 it
01:06:11.960 I
01:06:12.140 just
01:06:12.320 decided
01:06:12.940 to
01:06:13.120 do
01:06:13.300 it
01:06:13.500 and
01:06:14.680 here
01:06:15.020 is
01:06:15.260 a
01:06:15.400 chunk
01:06:15.620 of
01:06:16.020 how
01:06:16.300 that
01:06:16.500 went
01:06:16.720 and
01:06:18.480 something's
01:06:19.000 happening
01:06:19.340 though
01:06:19.600 with
01:06:20.300 this
01:06:20.500 whole
01:06:20.700 debate
01:06:21.020 that
01:06:21.240 is
01:06:21.360 really
01:06:21.640 bothering
01:06:22.100 me
01:06:22.380 and
01:06:22.580 I
01:06:22.720 wonder
01:06:23.140 if
01:06:23.300 you're
01:06:23.440 feeling
01:06:23.660 it
01:06:23.820 too
01:06:23.960 my
01:06:24.320 contention
01:06:24.840 here
01:06:25.100 is
01:06:25.340 that
01:06:25.560 some
01:06:26.160 in
01:06:26.620 the
01:06:26.760 pro
01:06:27.080 Israel
01:06:27.560 camp
01:06:28.040 are
01:06:28.700 so
01:06:29.220 knee
01:06:30.100 jerk
01:06:30.520 about
01:06:31.340 calling
01:06:32.260 you
01:06:32.600 anti
01:06:33.060 semitic
01:06:33.680 or
01:06:34.360 getting
01:06:35.460 deeply
01:06:35.980 offended
01:06:36.440 if
01:06:36.740 you
01:06:36.900 say
01:06:37.240 anything
01:06:37.960 that
01:06:38.700 doesn't
01:06:39.100 align
01:06:39.520 with
01:06:39.680 their
01:06:39.840 narrative
01:06:40.220 that
01:06:40.760 undermines
01:06:41.420 their
01:06:41.580 own
01:06:41.760 cause
01:06:42.120 and
01:06:42.400 I
01:06:42.520 have
01:06:42.740 to
01:06:42.860 tell
01:06:43.020 you
01:06:43.160 I
01:06:43.540 find
01:06:43.820 it
01:06:43.940 very
01:06:44.280 irritating
01:06:44.900 I'm
01:06:45.460 so
01:06:45.800 glad
01:06:46.040 you
01:06:46.200 brought
01:06:46.400 this
01:06:46.620 up
01:06:46.860 and
01:06:47.140 I
01:06:47.260 would
01:06:47.420 second
01:06:47.720 that
01:06:48.060 Megan
01:06:48.740 I
01:06:49.120 think
01:06:49.340 I
01:06:49.500 have
01:06:49.860 a
01:06:50.400 bulletproof
01:06:51.320 resume
01:06:51.680 showing
01:06:52.160 my
01:06:52.460 defense
01:06:52.940 of
01:06:53.200 Israel
01:06:53.540 both
01:06:53.800 on
01:06:54.000 campus
01:06:54.500 on
01:06:55.100 social
01:06:55.420 media
01:06:55.820 to
01:06:56.580 great
01:06:57.220 you
01:06:57.440 know
01:06:57.680 let's
01:06:58.620 just
01:06:58.760 say
01:06:58.920 mockery
01:06:59.440 and
01:06:59.620 scorn
01:06:59.980 at
01:07:00.160 times
01:07:00.520 because
01:07:00.720 I
01:07:01.380 believe
01:07:01.720 it
01:07:01.960 I
01:07:02.760 believe
01:07:03.420 in
01:07:04.060 the
01:07:04.460 scriptural
01:07:05.120 land
01:07:05.800 rights
01:07:06.200 given
01:07:06.700 to
01:07:06.920 Israel
01:07:07.320 I
01:07:07.620 believe
01:07:07.940 in
01:07:08.140 fulfillment
01:07:08.520 of
01:07:08.760 prophecy
01:07:09.260 and
01:07:10.420 again
01:07:10.940 I'm
01:07:11.120 not
01:07:11.260 a
01:07:11.380 theologian
01:07:11.920 but
01:07:12.080 I'm
01:07:12.200 a
01:07:12.320 Christian
01:07:12.640 my
01:07:12.940 life
01:07:13.240 was
01:07:13.420 changed
01:07:13.820 in
01:07:13.940 Israel
01:07:14.340 the
01:07:15.180 spiritual
01:07:15.580 energy
01:07:16.000 is
01:07:16.240 so
01:07:16.420 amazing
01:07:17.060 there
01:07:17.220 I
01:07:17.400 want
01:07:18.040 them
01:07:18.280 to
01:07:18.540 win
01:07:19.000 I've
01:07:19.440 said
01:07:19.660 that
01:07:19.920 repeatedly
01:07:20.580 and
01:07:21.760 however
01:07:22.440 Megan
01:07:22.780 you're
01:07:23.000 hitting
01:07:23.180 on
01:07:23.360 something
01:07:23.700 very
01:07:24.120 potent
01:07:24.520 and
01:07:24.680 important
01:07:25.060 now
01:07:28.620 people
01:07:28.780 know
01:07:28.940 per
01:07:29.100 Israel
01:07:29.340 world
01:07:29.520 that
01:07:29.640 have
01:07:29.740 been
01:07:29.820 very
01:07:30.080 sweet
01:07:30.560 very
01:07:31.240 kind
01:07:31.700 very
01:07:32.000 nuanced
01:07:32.600 very
01:07:32.880 Charlie
01:07:33.280 you know
01:07:34.060 you're
01:07:34.360 with us
01:07:34.820 you don't
01:07:35.040 have to
01:07:35.240 agree
01:07:35.360 all the
01:07:35.600 time
01:07:35.960 however
01:07:36.940 and I
01:07:37.900 and I
01:07:38.300 will say
01:07:38.620 this
01:07:38.940 the
01:07:39.460 behavior
01:07:39.960 by a
01:07:40.940 lot
01:07:41.440 both
01:07:42.000 privately
01:07:42.480 and
01:07:42.720 publicly
01:07:43.140 are
01:07:43.700 pushing
01:07:44.060 people
01:07:44.480 like
01:07:44.720 you
01:07:44.920 and
01:07:45.040 me
01:07:45.200 away
01:07:45.540 not
01:07:46.080 like
01:07:46.360 we're
01:07:46.520 gonna
01:07:46.620 be
01:07:46.780 pro
01:07:47.020 Hamas 0.96
01:07:47.580 not
01:07:48.200 like
01:07:48.420 we're
01:07:48.580 gonna
01:07:48.700 but
01:07:49.140 we're
01:07:49.320 like
01:07:49.540 honestly
01:07:50.000 the
01:07:50.720 way
01:07:50.940 you
01:07:51.140 are
01:07:51.300 treating
01:07:51.620 me
01:07:51.820 is
01:07:52.020 so
01:07:52.480 repulsive
01:07:53.120 I
01:07:53.660 have
01:07:53.840 text
01:07:54.160 messages
01:07:54.560 Megan
01:07:54.840 calling
01:07:55.260 me
01:07:55.440 an
01:07:55.580 anti
01:07:55.940 Semite 0.88
01:07:56.520 I
01:07:57.040 am
01:07:57.200 learning
01:07:57.580 biblical
01:07:58.100 Hebrew
01:07:58.500 and
01:07:58.720 writing
01:07:59.000 a book
01:07:59.420 on the
01:07:59.900 Shabbat
01:08:00.460 I
01:08:00.940 honor
01:08:01.380 the
01:08:01.580 Shabbat
01:08:02.060 literally
01:08:02.720 the
01:08:02.920 Jewish
01:08:03.180 Sabbath
01:08:03.560 I
01:08:04.160 visit
01:08:04.560 Israel
01:08:04.840 and
01:08:05.000 fight
01:08:05.200 for
01:08:05.400 it
01:08:05.480 it's
01:08:05.600 very
01:08:05.820 irritating
01:08:06.460 they were
01:08:08.940 coming
01:08:09.260 after you
01:08:09.680 after a
01:08:10.000 turning
01:08:10.180 point
01:08:10.520 for
01:08:10.900 among
01:08:11.100 other
01:08:11.280 things
01:08:11.560 Dave
01:08:12.280 Smith
01:08:12.600 there
01:08:12.880 Dave
01:08:13.340 Smith
01:08:13.580 is
01:08:13.740 allowed
01:08:14.180 to
01:08:14.460 criticize
01:08:15.000 Israel
01:08:15.420 you had
01:08:16.420 both
01:08:16.660 sides
01:08:17.000 the Israeli
01:08:17.900 side
01:08:18.160 you're
01:08:18.380 not
01:08:18.580 allowed
01:08:18.920 to
01:08:19.100 it's
01:08:21.200 even
01:08:21.360 worse
01:08:21.620 than
01:08:21.760 that
01:08:21.880 I
01:08:22.300 love
01:08:24.520 Israel
01:08:24.820 I
01:08:25.020 want
01:08:25.200 Israel
01:08:25.460 to
01:08:25.600 win
01:08:25.800 but
01:08:26.260 my
01:08:27.180 moral
01:08:27.740 character
01:08:28.500 is
01:08:28.860 now
01:08:29.040 being
01:08:29.240 put
01:08:29.460 into
01:08:29.600 question
01:08:30.020 Megan
01:08:30.280 not
01:08:30.840 my
01:08:31.060 decisions
01:08:31.640 not
01:08:32.880 like
01:08:33.120 hey
01:08:33.260 are you
01:08:33.480 doing
01:08:33.680 this
01:08:33.840 is
01:08:33.960 it
01:08:34.080 smart
01:08:34.360 or
01:08:34.520 is
01:08:34.620 it
01:08:34.740 dumb
01:08:35.020 but
01:08:35.500 no
01:08:35.700 I
01:08:36.320 am
01:08:36.580 a
01:08:36.720 bad
01:08:37.140 person
01:08:37.980 if
01:08:38.360 I
01:08:38.520 do
01:08:38.680 this
01:08:39.000 and
01:08:39.740 it's
01:08:39.980 I
01:08:40.260 could
01:08:40.580 go
01:08:40.700 I
01:08:40.800 mean
01:08:40.860 you
01:08:41.120 saw
01:08:41.380 it
01:08:41.500 Megan
01:08:41.680 it
01:08:41.780 was
01:08:41.860 trending
01:08:42.140 on
01:08:42.360 Twitter
01:08:42.560 thousands
01:08:43.280 of
01:08:43.560 tweets
01:08:43.820 and
01:08:44.000 text
01:08:44.220 messages
01:08:49.100 attacking
01:08:49.540 me
01:08:49.740 are
01:08:49.940 in
01:08:50.040 a
01:08:50.200 hyper
01:08:50.580 paranoid
01:08:51.100 state
01:08:51.660 because
01:08:52.840 they're
01:08:53.360 at
01:08:53.500 war
01:08:54.000 and
01:08:54.280 war
01:08:54.600 tends
01:08:54.980 to
01:08:55.180 make
01:08:55.360 things
01:08:55.620 black
01:08:55.940 and
01:08:56.120 white
01:08:56.440 and
01:08:57.060 you're
01:08:57.240 a
01:08:57.400 hammer
01:08:57.640 looking
01:08:58.000 for
01:08:58.280 a
01:08:58.440 nail 0.92
01:08:58.700 so
01:08:59.060 I'm
01:08:59.220 trying
01:08:59.680 to
01:08:59.860 be
01:09:00.040 charitable
01:09:00.400 Megan
01:09:00.700 literally
01:09:01.160 I'm
01:09:01.460 trying
01:09:01.680 to
01:09:01.840 cut
01:09:02.000 as
01:09:02.140 much
01:09:02.420 slack
01:09:02.740 as
01:09:02.920 I
01:09:03.060 can
01:09:03.320 right
01:09:03.600 what
01:09:04.300 would
01:09:04.740 it
01:09:04.860 be
01:09:05.000 like
01:09:05.300 if
01:09:05.500 all
01:09:05.680 of
01:09:05.820 a
01:09:05.860 sudden
01:09:06.120 I'm
01:09:06.840 starting
01:09:07.120 to
01:09:07.260 see
01:09:07.400 a
01:09:07.540 pattern
01:09:07.860 of
01:09:07.980 behavior
01:09:08.400 similar
01:09:08.860 to
01:09:09.140 what
01:09:09.260 my
01:09:09.420 grandparents
01:09:09.820 saw
01:09:10.220 in
01:09:10.420 1930s
01:09:11.140 Germany
01:09:11.380 online
01:09:11.860 how
01:09:12.420 would
01:09:12.580 I
01:09:12.700 behave
01:09:13.000 so
01:09:13.200 that's
01:09:13.440 like
01:09:13.560 my
01:09:13.780 charitable
01:09:14.260 kind
01:09:15.000 of
01:09:15.160 over
01:09:15.780 compensation
01:09:16.780 spirit
01:09:17.480 at the
01:09:17.960 same
01:09:18.160 time
01:09:18.480 I'm
01:09:18.620 like
01:09:18.860 but
01:09:19.980 you're
01:09:20.240 it's
01:09:20.700 it's
01:09:20.920 not
01:09:21.120 defensible
01:09:21.660 to be
01:09:22.120 dumb
01:09:22.620 right
01:09:23.580 yeah
01:09:23.840 so
01:09:24.140 and
01:09:24.420 it's
01:09:24.680 offensive
01:09:25.100 it's
01:09:25.520 offensive
01:09:25.880 to
01:09:26.060 those
01:09:26.260 of
01:09:26.380 us
01:09:26.500 who
01:09:26.600 have
01:09:26.720 been
01:09:26.960 out
01:09:27.680 there
01:09:28.000 defending
01:09:28.620 them
01:09:29.080 in
01:09:29.740 many
01:09:30.260 instances
01:09:30.660 against
01:09:31.180 critics
01:09:31.800 on our
01:09:32.140 own
01:09:32.340 side
01:09:32.780 and
01:09:33.480 now
01:09:33.700 you
01:09:33.840 have
01:09:33.980 a
01:09:34.100 couple
01:09:34.360 of
01:09:34.500 like
01:09:34.780 well
01:09:35.040 what
01:09:35.300 about
01:09:35.460 this
01:09:40.220 is
01:09:40.420 just
01:09:40.540 so
01:09:40.740 bizarre
01:09:40.940 I
01:09:41.200 don't
01:09:41.340 know
01:09:41.500 who
01:09:41.640 he
01:09:41.760 was
01:09:41.880 an
01:09:42.000 agent
01:09:42.180 for
01:09:42.400 it
01:09:42.580 might
01:09:42.740 have
01:09:42.820 been
01:09:42.920 Israel
01:09:43.200 or
01:09:43.360 an
01:09:43.440 asset
01:09:43.680 or
01:09:44.220 it
01:09:44.320 might
01:09:44.420 have
01:09:44.500 been
01:09:44.600 nobody
01:09:44.980 but
01:09:45.320 we're
01:09:45.480 allowed
01:09:45.740 to
01:09:45.980 speculate
01:09:46.380 about
01:09:46.700 that
01:09:46.920 it's
01:09:47.380 like
01:09:47.520 there's
01:09:47.740 some
01:09:47.860 rule
01:09:48.240 you can't
01:09:48.980 go there
01:09:49.460 when it
01:09:49.780 comes
01:09:50.040 to
01:09:50.300 Israel
01:09:50.740 well
01:09:51.880 you
01:09:52.120 and
01:09:52.240 I
01:09:52.360 believe
01:09:52.720 that
01:09:52.880 we're
01:09:53.060 Americans
01:09:53.720 and
01:09:53.920 Americans
01:09:54.400 first
01:09:54.900 period
01:09:55.340 end
01:09:55.640 of
01:09:55.760 story
01:09:55.940 we
01:09:56.120 are
01:09:56.240 citizens
01:09:56.620 of
01:09:56.840 this
01:09:57.180 nation
01:09:57.560 personality
01:09:58.280 types
01:09:58.720 like
01:09:59.040 you
01:09:59.300 myself
01:10:10.220 one text
01:10:10.700 or
01:10:11.180 two
01:10:11.420 texts
01:10:11.800 it
01:10:12.280 is
01:10:12.480 dozens
01:10:13.260 of
01:10:13.580 texts
01:10:14.040 then
01:10:14.980 we
01:10:16.040 start
01:10:16.360 to
01:10:16.540 say
01:10:16.720 hold
01:10:17.300 the
01:10:17.560 boat
01:10:17.780 here
01:10:18.100 I
01:10:20.640 thought
01:10:20.760 that
01:10:20.900 was
01:10:21.060 very
01:10:21.500 well
01:10:23.020 said
01:10:23.240 by
01:10:23.400 Charlie
01:10:23.700 as
01:10:24.160 usual
01:10:24.500 and
01:10:25.460 so
01:10:26.300 I
01:10:26.540 want
01:10:27.480 to
01:10:27.780 verify
01:10:28.240 that
01:10:28.680 he
01:10:28.840 was
01:10:29.000 feeling
01:10:29.440 frustrated
01:10:30.360 and
01:10:31.140 he
01:10:31.300 was
01:10:31.580 feeling
01:10:31.920 pressured
01:10:32.300 and
01:10:32.600 he
01:10:32.740 was
01:10:32.920 feeling
01:10:33.320 like
01:10:34.320 his
01:10:34.500 character
01:10:34.820 was
01:10:35.040 being
01:10:35.240 assassinated
01:10:35.900 by
01:10:36.820 people
01:10:37.580 publicly
01:10:38.140 and
01:10:38.500 privately
01:10:38.980 who
01:10:39.980 are
01:10:40.220 I
01:10:41.020 guess
01:10:41.160 consider
01:10:41.480 themselves
01:10:41.820 more
01:10:42.080 pro
01:10:42.380 Israel
01:10:42.700 than
01:10:42.940 Charlie
01:10:43.320 and
01:10:44.560 he
01:10:45.100 refused
01:10:46.240 to
01:10:46.800 back
01:10:47.040 off
01:10:47.260 of
01:10:47.400 his
01:10:47.560 criticisms
01:10:48.000 and
01:10:48.320 said
01:10:48.540 there
01:10:48.840 the
01:10:49.820 truth
01:10:50.500 which
01:10:50.760 is
01:10:51.020 in
01:10:51.460 his
01:10:51.640 case
01:10:51.860 and
01:10:52.020 in
01:10:52.160 mine
01:10:52.340 the
01:10:52.480 more
01:10:52.600 you
01:10:52.740 tell
01:10:52.900 us
01:10:53.020 we
01:10:53.140 can't
01:10:53.580 talk
01:10:53.880 about
01:10:54.060 something
01:10:54.360 the
01:10:54.500 way
01:10:54.600 we
01:10:54.760 want
01:10:54.940 to
01:10:55.020 talk
01:10:55.200 about
01:10:55.380 it
01:10:55.480 the
01:10:55.600 more
01:10:55.760 we're
01:10:56.020 likely
01:10:56.280 to
01:10:56.440 do
01:10:56.600 it
01:10:56.780 and
01:10:57.920 to
01:10:58.800 me
01:10:58.900 this
01:10:59.060 whole
01:10:59.200 thing
01:10:59.360 is
01:10:59.560 very
01:11:00.220 it's
01:11:00.960 very
01:11:01.120 frustrating
01:11:01.620 because
01:11:02.840 he
01:11:04.520 was
01:11:04.640 pretty
01:11:04.820 clear
01:11:09.980 and
01:11:10.160 young
01:11:10.620 conservatives
01:11:11.120 I
01:11:11.340 think
01:11:11.520 who
01:11:12.080 were
01:11:12.560 feeling
01:11:13.840 the
01:11:14.020 same
01:11:14.160 frustrations
01:11:14.720 and
01:11:16.000 I
01:11:17.360 got
01:11:17.640 it's
01:11:17.820 a
01:11:17.940 long
01:11:18.220 winded
01:11:18.940 way
01:11:19.200 of
01:11:19.360 saying
01:11:19.700 can
01:11:20.160 I
01:11:20.260 tell
01:11:20.420 you
01:11:20.540 what
01:11:20.760 like
01:11:21.140 I
01:11:21.880 understand
01:11:22.380 Candace's
01:11:22.920 point
01:11:23.240 it
01:11:23.900 is
01:11:24.220 it
01:11:24.760 is
01:11:25.200 it's
01:11:26.240 not
01:11:26.460 okay
01:11:26.780 for
01:11:26.980 him
01:11:27.120 to
01:11:27.240 come
01:11:27.400 out
01:11:27.640 just
01:11:28.080 read
01:11:28.300 part
01:11:28.520 of
01:11:28.600 the
01:11:28.700 letter
01:11:28.920 and
01:11:29.840 let
01:11:30.100 that
01:11:30.320 be
01:11:30.480 that
01:11:30.720 there
01:11:30.940 were
01:11:31.200 there
01:11:31.400 was
01:11:31.680 an
01:11:31.780 evolving
01:11:32.100 feeling
01:11:32.580 by
01:11:33.040 Charlie
01:11:33.380 on
01:11:33.620 Israel
01:11:33.940 that
01:11:34.220 is
01:11:34.360 a
01:11:34.460 lot
01:11:34.580 more
01:11:34.760 complicated
01:11:35.260 than
01:11:39.980 everybody
01:11:40.940 wants
01:11:41.200 to
01:11:41.360 spin
01:11:41.600 it
01:11:41.800 in
01:11:42.260 a
01:11:42.340 way
01:11:42.460 that
01:11:42.640 makes
01:11:42.880 them
01:11:43.120 sound
01:11:43.800 closer
01:11:44.240 to
01:11:44.420 Charlie
01:11:44.760 and make
01:11:45.100 Charlie
01:11:45.540 sound
01:11:46.180 closer
01:11:46.540 to
01:11:46.700 their
01:11:46.900 cause
01:11:47.340 because
01:11:48.160 Charlie's
01:11:48.720 so
01:11:50.040 influential
01:11:50.500 right now
01:11:51.040 and so
01:11:51.400 important
01:11:51.760 to us
01:11:52.220 but I
01:11:53.700 mean
01:11:54.020 I also
01:11:54.680 object
01:11:55.020 to the
01:11:55.340 extent
01:11:55.580 he
01:11:55.840 was
01:11:56.020 used
01:11:56.480 to
01:11:56.800 advance
01:11:57.100 a
01:11:57.280 political
01:11:57.640 narrative
01:11:58.280 in that
01:11:59.220 Fox
01:11:59.460 News
01:11:59.620 interview
01:11:59.880 I
01:12:00.120 see
01:12:00.320 why
01:12:00.500 she's
01:12:00.680 upset
01:12:00.980 your
01:12:01.380 thoughts
01:12:01.620 guys
01:12:01.880 yeah
01:12:05.280 I
01:12:05.460 might
01:12:05.700 disagree
01:12:05.960 with you
01:12:06.160 on this
01:12:06.360 one
01:12:06.460 a
01:12:06.560 little
01:12:06.640 bit
01:12:06.860 that
01:12:07.560 and
01:12:08.020 a
01:12:08.620 couple
01:12:09.980 strike
01:12:10.940 me
01:12:11.180 is
01:12:12.020 that
01:12:12.340 you
01:12:13.500 know
01:12:13.740 the
01:12:14.100 turning
01:12:14.440 point
01:12:14.700 people
01:12:15.060 who
01:12:15.460 gave
01:12:15.880 a
01:12:16.080 very
01:12:16.300 different
01:12:16.760 account
01:12:17.280 of
01:12:18.180 that
01:12:18.560 meeting
01:12:19.360 and
01:12:20.780 you
01:12:20.880 know
01:12:20.980 when
01:12:21.240 it
01:12:21.340 comes
01:12:21.580 to
01:12:21.860 Israel
01:12:22.760 and
01:12:23.240 when
01:12:23.360 it
01:12:23.460 comes
01:12:23.660 to
01:12:23.840 Jews
01:12:24.280 you
01:12:25.460 know
01:12:25.620 these
01:12:26.060 meetings
01:12:26.700 people
01:12:27.120 come
01:12:27.400 over
01:12:27.560 for
01:12:27.760 dinner
01:12:28.120 we're
01:12:28.800 going
01:12:28.900 to
01:12:28.920 have
01:12:29.080 a
01:12:29.220 little
01:12:29.360 bowl
01:12:29.620 session
01:12:29.960 about
01:12:30.220 an
01:12:30.400 issue
01:12:30.720 and
01:12:31.460 you
01:12:31.560 want
01:12:31.820 to
01:12:32.040 talk
01:12:32.340 about
01:12:32.520 it
01:12:32.620 I've
01:12:32.800 been
01:12:32.920 involved
01:12:33.240 in
01:12:33.420 these
01:12:33.780 things
01:12:34.500 when
01:12:35.380 it
01:12:35.480 comes
01:12:35.640 to
01:12:35.740 a
01:12:36.060 million
01:12:36.280 different
01:12:36.600 issues
01:12:37.000 it
01:12:37.760 becomes
01:12:38.040 conspiratorial
01:12:39.100 when
01:12:39.680 Israel
01:12:40.740 is
01:12:40.920 involved
01:12:41.320 and
01:12:41.640 people
01:12:42.180 who
01:12:42.560 have
01:12:43.880 Israel
01:12:44.160 back
01:12:44.580 it
01:12:44.860 can
01:12:45.180 and
01:12:45.420 I
01:12:45.860 think
01:12:46.120 that
01:12:46.340 Candace
01:12:46.740 Owens
01:12:47.000 is a
01:12:48.300 very
01:12:48.920 dodgy
01:12:50.940 witness
01:12:51.340 in this
01:12:51.780 considering
01:12:52.260 she doesn't
01:12:53.160 have a ton
01:12:53.460 of credibility
01:12:54.060 amongst
01:12:55.280 almost
01:12:56.000 let me
01:12:56.720 say this
01:12:57.700 in Candace's
01:12:58.640 defense
01:12:59.080 first of all
01:13:00.980 she's
01:13:01.240 brilliant
01:13:01.660 Candace
01:13:02.020 is
01:13:02.180 brilliant
01:13:02.440 I
01:13:02.680 realize
01:13:02.900 she's
01:13:03.120 controversial
01:13:03.520 but
01:13:04.180 she is
01:13:04.440 very
01:13:04.740 smart
01:13:05.100 she's
01:13:06.520 too
01:13:06.760 smart
01:13:07.040 to
01:13:07.200 F
01:13:07.360 around
01:13:07.600 and
01:13:07.760 say
01:13:07.880 that
01:13:08.020 she's
01:13:08.260 got
01:13:08.480 the
01:13:09.560 letter
01:13:10.040 she
01:13:10.640 seems
01:13:10.960 to
01:13:11.080 have
01:13:11.260 either
01:13:11.720 the
01:13:11.900 letter
01:13:12.100 or
01:13:12.260 recordings
01:13:12.640 that
01:13:13.340 she
01:13:14.280 doesn't
01:13:14.540 have
01:13:14.760 she
01:13:14.960 just
01:13:15.160 tweeted
01:13:15.400 out
01:13:15.740 more
01:13:17.040 is
01:13:17.160 going
01:13:17.260 to
01:13:17.320 come
01:13:17.480 out
01:13:17.720 the
01:13:18.180 truth
01:13:18.400 is
01:13:18.540 inevitable
01:13:18.920 they're
01:13:19.560 lying
01:13:19.800 but
01:13:19.940 rest
01:13:20.140 assured
01:13:20.400 these
01:13:20.620 people
01:13:20.860 were
01:13:21.020 deranged
01:13:21.360 enough
01:13:21.600 to put
01:13:21.860 their
01:13:22.000 anger
01:13:22.260 and
01:13:22.420 demands
01:13:22.700 in
01:13:22.840 writing
01:13:23.100 now
01:13:23.580 I
01:13:23.700 don't
01:13:24.280 that
01:13:24.480 doesn't
01:13:24.740 mean
01:13:24.860 it's
01:13:25.020 Bill
01:13:25.160 Ackman 0.95
01:13:25.480 I
01:13:25.940 don't
01:13:26.100 know
01:13:26.320 whether
01:13:35.100 at
01:13:36.060 the
01:13:36.200 Bill
01:13:36.340 Ackman 0.95
01:13:36.600 summit
01:13:36.960 but
01:13:38.420 anyway
01:13:38.620 keep
01:13:38.840 going
01:13:39.100 yeah
01:13:39.360 I
01:13:39.660 interrupted
01:13:39.900 you
01:13:40.080 I
01:13:40.240 mean
01:13:40.640 just
01:13:40.820 what
01:13:40.980 we
01:13:41.100 do
01:13:41.280 as
01:13:41.440 journalists
01:13:41.780 though
01:13:42.080 is
01:13:42.340 we
01:13:42.500 give
01:13:42.800 people's
01:13:43.260 opinions
01:13:43.760 certain
01:13:44.540 weights
01:13:45.000 depending
01:13:45.480 on how
01:13:46.060 credible
01:13:46.420 they are
01:13:46.760 on other
01:13:47.120 things
01:13:47.480 and
01:13:47.640 you know
01:13:47.800 the last
01:13:48.080 thing
01:13:48.220 I
01:13:48.400 saw
01:13:48.580 her
01:13:48.820 talking
01:13:49.640 about
01:13:50.060 was
01:13:50.440 whether
01:13:50.660 or not
01:13:51.000 Brigitte
01:13:51.500 Macron
01:13:51.920 was a
01:13:52.600 member
01:13:52.800 of the
01:13:53.220 Stanford
01:13:53.640 prison
01:13:54.100 experiment
01:13:54.700 and
01:13:55.340 talking
01:13:55.640 about
01:13:55.920 Frankists 0.99
01:13:56.880 and
01:13:57.200 Stalin 0.57
01:13:57.660 being
01:13:58.020 Jewish
01:13:58.460 and
01:13:58.660 this
01:13:58.860 singular
01:13:59.580 obsession
01:14:00.140 these
01:14:00.440 days
01:14:00.760 with
01:14:01.140 Israel
01:14:01.620 you
01:14:02.400 know
01:14:02.480 we
01:14:02.600 talked
01:14:02.800 earlier
01:14:03.140 about
01:14:03.580 how
01:14:04.080 you
01:14:04.620 know
01:14:04.760 when
01:14:05.040 it
01:14:05.180 came
01:14:05.520 to
01:14:06.400 Mamdani
01:14:07.140 let me
01:14:08.920 just
01:14:09.040 ask
01:14:09.200 you
01:14:09.300 something
01:14:09.500 Moynihan
01:14:10.620 okay
01:14:10.940 and
01:14:11.720 I
01:14:11.860 understand
01:14:12.080 like
01:14:12.300 we
01:14:12.460 did
01:14:13.120 a
01:14:13.260 legal
01:14:13.500 debate
01:14:13.740 on
01:14:13.880 the
01:14:13.980 Macron
01:14:14.180 thing
01:14:14.520 it's
01:14:15.320 an
01:14:15.400 eight
01:14:15.540 part
01:14:15.720 series
01:14:16.020 that
01:14:16.200 you
01:14:16.280 can
01:14:16.400 watch
01:14:16.580 on
01:14:16.700 Candice's
01:14:17.080 feed
01:14:17.320 that's
01:14:18.420 what
01:14:18.560 that's
01:14:19.160 where
01:14:19.340 the
01:14:20.100 references
01:14:20.420 to
01:14:20.640 Brigitte
01:14:20.860 come
01:14:21.080 from
01:14:21.320 but
01:14:22.020 yeah
01:14:22.260 you
01:14:24.880 don't
01:14:25.080 have
01:14:25.360 to
01:14:25.620 trust
01:14:26.400 her
01:14:26.760 if
01:14:26.940 Candice
01:14:27.400 is
01:14:27.520 not
01:14:27.640 your
01:14:27.760 cup
01:14:27.920 of
01:14:28.000 tea
01:14:28.080 that's
01:14:28.320 fine
01:14:28.560 you
01:14:28.760 know
01:14:28.840 I'm
01:14:29.280 not
01:14:29.400 everybody's
01:14:29.740 cup
01:14:29.880 of
01:14:29.980 tea
01:14:30.060 she's
01:14:30.260 not
01:14:30.380 everybody's
01:14:30.840 cup
01:14:31.240 of
01:14:31.300 tea
01:14:31.380 but
01:14:31.560 I
01:14:32.100 just
01:14:32.260 played
01:14:32.500 you
01:14:32.640 a
01:14:32.740 four
01:14:32.860 minute
01:14:33.020 exchange
01:14:33.440 of
01:14:33.760 Charlie
01:14:34.220 saying
01:14:35.660 no
01:14:35.860 I was
01:14:36.860 getting
01:14:37.020 to
01:14:37.180 that
01:14:37.360 and I
01:14:37.620 want
01:14:37.760 to
01:14:37.860 address
01:14:38.740 that
01:14:38.900 because
01:14:39.120 I
01:14:39.280 think
01:14:39.440 that's
01:14:39.700 totally
01:14:40.020 normal
01:14:40.540 and
01:14:41.140 as
01:14:41.780 you
01:14:41.880 point
01:14:42.120 out
01:14:42.240 with
01:14:42.360 polling
01:14:42.580 I
01:14:42.700 just
01:14:42.840 did
01:14:42.920 a
01:14:43.020 show
01:14:43.140 the
01:14:43.260 other
01:14:43.360 day
01:14:43.480 with
01:14:43.600 Alan
01:14:43.860 Dershowitz
01:14:44.280 and
01:14:44.980 I
01:14:45.100 don't
01:14:57.520 was
01:14:57.860 not
01:14:58.080 to
01:14:58.260 say
01:14:58.420 no
01:14:58.580 that's
01:14:58.820 not
01:14:58.960 true
01:14:59.100 he
01:14:59.220 said
01:14:59.400 there's
01:14:59.940 polling
01:15:00.680 in which
01:15:01.120 Israel
01:15:01.520 is the
01:15:01.800 least
01:15:02.160 popular
01:15:02.640 country
01:15:03.080 on
01:15:03.420 earth
01:15:03.860 and
01:15:04.680 the
01:15:05.080 number
01:15:05.320 one
01:15:05.620 was
01:15:05.800 Germany
01:15:06.540 and
01:15:07.100 Japan
01:15:07.520 and
01:15:07.820 he
01:15:07.920 made
01:15:08.080 some
01:15:08.260 joke
01:15:08.500 about
01:15:08.720 them
01:15:09.220 being
01:15:09.420 the
01:15:09.580 axis
01:15:09.980 in
01:15:10.640 Israel
01:15:10.860 on
01:15:11.000 the
01:15:11.060 other
01:15:11.200 end
01:15:11.380 of
01:15:11.480 that
01:15:11.620 that's
01:15:11.980 completely
01:15:12.580 normal
01:15:13.100 to have
01:15:13.380 this
01:15:13.480 conversation
01:15:13.800 but
01:15:13.960 Charlie
01:15:14.260 Kirk
01:15:15.060 says
01:15:15.400 something
01:15:15.740 that
01:15:15.980 is
01:15:16.080 very
01:15:16.260 different
01:15:16.520 than
01:15:16.700 what
01:15:16.980 Candace
01:15:17.620 Owen
01:15:17.780 feels
01:15:18.060 about
01:15:18.280 this
01:15:18.440 stuff
01:15:18.640 he
01:15:19.320 says
01:15:19.600 during
01:15:20.080 that
01:15:20.480 conversation
01:15:21.020 with
01:15:21.180 you
01:15:21.320 that
01:15:21.860 he
01:15:22.000 is
01:15:22.180 a
01:15:22.380 stalwart
01:15:22.920 Zionist 1.00
01:15:23.600 he
01:15:23.720 doesn't
01:15:23.960 like
01:15:24.180 people
01:15:24.680 questioning
01:15:25.620 his
01:15:26.040 commitment
01:15:26.660 to
01:15:27.000 that
01:15:27.220 idea
01:15:27.760 or
01:15:28.540 going
01:15:28.980 so
01:15:29.240 far
01:15:29.540 as
01:15:29.680 to
01:15:29.780 calling
01:15:29.980 him
01:15:30.120 an
01:15:30.220 anti
01:15:30.440 Semite 0.88
01:15:30.760 or
01:15:30.840 something
01:15:30.980 I
01:15:31.100 don't
01:15:31.200 know
01:15:31.280 who
01:15:31.340 these
01:15:31.440 people
01:15:31.640 are
01:15:31.980 but
01:15:32.480 that
01:15:32.680 is
01:15:32.800 not
01:15:33.420 surprising
01:15:34.100 from
01:15:34.340 conservatives
01:15:34.820 who
01:15:35.060 have
01:15:35.160 been
01:15:35.700 denouncing
01:15:37.140 people
01:15:37.500 rightfully
01:15:38.060 for
01:15:38.420 ending
01:15:39.040 debate
01:15:39.360 by
01:15:39.560 calling
01:15:40.220 people
01:15:40.420 racist
01:15:40.860 for
01:15:41.220 years
01:15:41.580 so
01:15:41.780 that's
01:15:42.000 in
01:15:42.800 kind
01:15:43.240 but
01:15:43.520 I
01:15:44.520 wonder
01:15:45.160 why
01:15:49.600 the
01:15:49.720 number
01:15:50.040 of
01:15:50.280 people
01:15:50.580 that
01:15:50.780 were
01:15:50.920 talking
01:15:51.340 about
01:15:51.820 Israel
01:15:52.260 that's
01:15:52.620 the
01:15:52.760 thing
01:15:52.900 that
01:15:53.060 concerns
01:15:53.440 me
01:15:53.620 about
01:15:53.820 why
01:15:54.200 this
01:15:54.540 is
01:15:54.700 coming
01:15:54.940 up
01:15:55.120 why
01:15:55.740 is
01:15:55.940 it
01:15:56.020 about
01:15:56.200 the
01:15:56.360 pet
01:15:56.600 issue
01:15:56.920 that
01:15:57.120 she's
01:15:57.340 been
01:15:57.480 talking
01:15:57.760 about
01:15:58.100 I
01:15:58.620 think
01:15:59.160 obsessively
01:16:00.180 for
01:16:00.860 every
01:16:01.240 time
01:16:01.520 I
01:16:01.700 tune
01:16:01.980 in
01:16:02.340 in
01:16:02.500 these
01:16:03.120 totally
01:16:03.480 crazy
01:16:03.860 ways
01:16:04.200 I
01:16:04.320 mean
01:16:04.420 the
01:16:04.880 guy
01:16:05.060 Ian
01:16:05.360 Carroll
01:16:05.520 I
01:16:05.640 don't
01:16:05.800 know
01:16:05.960 if
01:16:06.040 this
01:16:06.160 is
01:16:06.380 true
01:16:06.540 of
01:16:06.760 Candace
01:16:07.300 some
01:16:09.100 people
01:16:09.300 were
01:16:09.640 wondering
01:16:10.460 some
01:16:10.940 people
01:16:11.380 obviously
01:16:12.180 were
01:16:13.840 wondering
01:16:14.560 whether
01:16:15.220 Israel
01:16:15.680 had a
01:16:16.020 hand
01:16:16.220 in
01:16:16.340 this
01:16:16.540 I
01:16:16.660 mean
01:16:16.740 that's
01:16:16.980 clearly
01:16:17.240 why
01:16:17.700 it's
01:16:18.520 come
01:16:18.780 up
01:16:19.040 and
01:16:19.360 there's
01:16:19.640 zero
01:16:20.140 evidence
01:16:20.660 of
01:16:20.860 that
01:16:20.960 Yahoo
01:16:21.040 is
01:16:21.220 responding
01:16:21.740 I
01:16:22.120 mean
01:16:22.280 I
01:16:22.480 don't
01:16:22.880 think
01:16:23.140 that
01:16:23.340 in
01:16:23.560 any
01:16:23.840 other
01:16:24.060 circumstance
01:16:24.640 if
01:16:25.400 this
01:16:25.620 had
01:16:25.760 not
01:16:25.980 taken
01:16:26.580 over
01:16:26.940 like
01:16:27.180 a
01:16:27.320 prairie
01:16:27.660 fire
01:16:28.000 on
01:16:28.180 the
01:16:28.280 internet
01:16:28.600 this
01:16:29.360 guy
01:16:29.560 Ian
01:16:29.820 Carroll
01:16:30.120 was
01:16:30.240 a
01:16:31.220 guest
01:16:31.500 host
01:16:31.780 of
01:16:32.020 Candace
01:16:33.000 show
01:16:33.400 this
01:16:33.740 summer
01:16:34.120 was
01:16:34.840 on
01:16:35.180 Twitter
01:16:35.740 saying
01:16:36.160 the
01:16:36.740 Israelis
01:16:37.160 did
01:16:37.680 this
01:16:38.000 and
01:16:38.160 even
01:16:38.440 you
01:16:38.700 know
01:16:38.780 you
01:16:38.900 have
01:16:39.000 someone
01:16:39.160 like
01:16:39.340 Dave
01:16:39.540 Smith
01:16:39.780 who
01:16:40.160 has
01:16:40.460 a lot
01:16:40.760 of
01:16:40.840 problems
01:16:41.120 with
01:16:41.340 me
01:16:41.600 and
01:16:42.420 we
01:16:42.660 disagree
01:16:42.980 on
01:16:43.220 almost
01:16:43.460 everything
01:16:43.840 but
01:16:44.060 even
01:16:44.360 he
01:16:44.480 responded
01:16:44.860 he's
01:16:44.980 like
01:16:45.080 dude
01:16:45.220 what
01:16:45.380 are
01:16:45.460 you
01:16:45.560 talking
01:16:46.000 about
01:16:46.260 where
01:16:46.500 is
01:16:46.660 this
01:16:46.820 crazy
01:16:47.620 talk
01:16:48.100 it's
01:16:48.480 crazy
01:16:48.860 and
01:16:49.140 like
01:16:49.340 even
01:16:49.580 Alex
01:16:50.020 Jones
01:16:50.440 was
01:16:50.660 like
01:16:50.840 guys
01:16:51.060 all
01:16:51.420 of
01:16:51.540 this
01:16:51.640 conversation
01:16:52.200 about
01:16:52.500 this
01:16:52.700 why
01:16:53.400 are
01:16:53.580 we
01:16:53.720 having
01:16:53.900 a
01:16:54.060 conversation
01:16:54.560 about
01:16:55.040 Charlie
01:16:55.580 Kirk's
01:16:56.100 commitment
01:16:56.540 to
01:16:56.880 Israel
01:16:57.300 immediately
01:16:58.160 after
01:16:58.700 he
01:16:59.000 was
01:16:59.140 assassinated
01:16:59.760 because
01:17:00.000 there's
01:17:00.280 so many
01:17:00.660 ghouls
01:17:01.260 out there
01:17:01.640 who
01:17:02.080 were
01:17:02.200 trying
01:17:02.560 to
01:17:02.740 suggest
01:17:03.080 that
01:17:03.220 maybe
01:17:03.640 because
01:17:04.280 he
01:17:04.420 was
01:17:04.560 wavering
01:17:05.180 on
01:17:05.380 this
01:17:05.580 and
01:17:06.220 as
01:17:06.500 Charlie
01:17:06.720 said
01:17:06.940 to
01:17:07.080 you
01:17:07.200 I
01:17:07.360 didn't
01:17:07.600 know
01:17:07.780 the
01:17:07.920 guy
01:17:08.200 I
01:17:08.440 met
01:17:08.980 him
01:17:09.080 one
01:17:09.420 time
01:17:09.740 he
01:17:10.420 said
01:17:12.360 he
01:17:12.500 didn't
01:17:12.760 understand
01:17:13.060 under
01:17:13.400 that
01:17:13.580 theory
01:17:13.900 here's
01:17:14.680 what
01:17:14.780 I
01:17:14.860 don't
01:17:14.980 get
01:17:15.160 under
01:17:15.400 that
01:17:15.600 theory
01:17:15.940 like
01:17:16.980 Candace
01:17:17.320 is
01:17:17.460 very
01:17:17.660 influential
01:17:18.120 she's
01:17:18.440 got
01:17:18.540 a
01:17:18.680 very
01:17:18.880 popular
01:17:19.260 show
01:17:19.760 Tucker
01:17:21.660 same
01:17:22.760 and
01:17:23.660 obviously
01:17:24.220 neither
01:17:24.560 one
01:17:24.880 is
01:17:25.300 feeling
01:17:26.040 very
01:17:26.320 supportive
01:17:26.700 of
01:17:26.920 Israel
01:17:27.260 in
01:17:27.480 this
01:17:27.620 war
01:17:27.900 that's
01:17:28.280 for
01:17:28.420 sure
01:17:28.660 in
01:17:28.920 Tucker's
01:17:29.220 case
01:17:29.460 and
01:17:29.720 for
01:17:29.880 sure
01:17:30.040 in
01:17:30.200 Candace's
01:17:30.620 case
01:17:30.840 and
01:17:30.980 whether
01:17:31.120 it
01:17:31.240 goes
01:17:31.380 beyond
01:17:31.640 that
01:17:31.860 that's
01:17:32.720 up to
01:17:32.920 other
01:17:33.060 people
01:17:33.240 to
01:17:33.360 decide
01:17:33.640 I
01:17:33.900 don't
01:17:34.100 listen
01:17:34.700 to
01:17:34.820 their
01:17:34.940 shows
01:17:35.120 every
01:17:35.300 day
01:17:35.520 that
01:17:38.920 like
01:17:39.840 those
01:17:40.920 two
01:17:41.200 would
01:17:41.460 have
01:17:41.580 been
01:17:41.740 the
01:17:41.960 obvious
01:17:42.340 targets
01:17:43.240 you
01:17:43.540 know
01:17:43.620 I
01:17:43.740 don't
01:17:43.920 I'm
01:17:44.220 not
01:17:44.320 trying
01:17:44.460 to
01:17:44.540 get
01:17:44.680 them
01:17:44.920 endangered
01:17:45.460 God
01:17:45.760 knows
01:17:45.980 I'm
01:17:46.160 just
01:17:46.320 saying
01:17:46.540 I
01:17:47.200 don't
01:17:47.320 understand
01:17:47.660 Tucker
01:17:48.220 did
01:17:48.480 suggest
01:17:48.820 to
01:17:48.940 me
01:17:49.040 that
01:17:49.200 he
01:17:49.400 has
01:17:50.000 been
01:17:50.220 under
01:17:50.520 threat
01:17:50.740 he
01:17:50.880 didn't
01:17:51.040 say
01:17:51.180 from
01:17:51.340 Israel
01:17:51.600 but
01:17:51.800 he's
01:17:52.000 definitely
01:17:52.300 been
01:17:52.520 under
01:17:52.700 threat
01:17:52.920 I
01:17:53.520 don't
01:17:53.640 know
01:17:53.760 I
01:17:53.880 just
01:17:54.040 don't
01:17:54.240 get
01:17:54.400 like
01:17:54.620 there
01:17:55.080 would
01:17:55.360 be
01:17:55.440 no
01:17:55.620 incentive
01:17:56.040 I
01:17:56.260 get
01:17:56.600 the
01:17:56.820 logic
01:17:57.240 like
01:17:57.500 Charlie
01:17:58.660 starting
01:17:59.060 to
01:17:59.240 lose
01:18:00.140 Charlie
01:18:00.580 so
01:18:00.880 like
01:18:01.100 we've
01:18:01.280 got
01:18:01.380 to
01:18:01.500 take
01:18:01.660 him
01:18:01.780 out
01:18:02.040 if
01:18:02.640 you're
01:18:02.840 really
01:18:03.040 thinking
01:18:03.360 Israel
01:18:03.740 is
01:18:03.940 like
01:18:04.100 at
01:18:04.220 that
01:18:04.440 level
01:18:04.760 of
01:18:05.060 you
01:18:05.320 know
01:18:05.460 but
01:18:05.660 to
01:18:06.020 me
01:18:06.140 it
01:18:06.240 seems
01:18:06.620 like
01:18:17.660 much
01:18:17.960 conspiracy
01:18:18.380 theory
01:18:18.840 recently
01:18:19.780 from
01:18:20.240 9-11
01:18:20.860 to
01:18:21.460 you know
01:18:21.840 flat
01:18:22.200 earthers
01:18:22.580 and
01:18:22.900 dinosaurs
01:18:23.500 and
01:18:24.060 Brigitte
01:18:24.720 Macron
01:18:25.080 and
01:18:25.400 it's
01:18:25.560 just
01:18:25.720 I
01:18:25.920 think
01:18:29.040 Brigitte
01:18:29.400 Macron
01:18:29.720 is
01:18:30.180 the
01:18:30.560 very
01:18:31.100 very
01:18:31.420 weird
01:18:32.020 wife
01:18:32.400 of
01:18:32.520 Emmanuel
01:18:32.800 Macron
01:18:33.060 who
01:18:33.340 started
01:18:33.720 hooking
01:18:33.960 up
01:18:34.120 with him
01:18:34.260 when
01:18:34.360 he
01:18:34.400 was
01:18:34.520 like
01:18:34.660 14
01:18:35.140 that's
01:18:35.960 weird
01:18:36.180 enough
01:18:36.540 we can
01:18:36.860 that
01:18:37.300 actually
01:18:41.360 is so
01:18:41.680 crazy
01:18:42.080 like
01:18:42.360 you know
01:18:42.920 I told
01:18:43.280 the audience
01:18:43.640 when we
01:18:43.840 talked about
01:18:44.160 Candace's
01:18:44.520 series
01:18:44.720 on that
01:18:44.980 I
01:18:45.180 did
01:18:45.620 not
01:18:45.800 watch
01:18:46.100 it
01:18:46.200 for
01:18:46.320 the
01:18:46.420 full
01:18:46.560 eight
01:18:46.700 hours
01:18:46.940 but
01:18:48.020 I
01:18:48.140 did
01:18:48.320 watch
01:18:48.520 a lot
01:18:48.760 about
01:18:48.980 her
01:18:50.020 relationship
01:18:50.640 with
01:18:51.100 Emmanuel
01:18:52.500 and how
01:18:52.880 it got
01:18:53.100 started
01:18:53.360 which I
01:18:53.700 did
01:18:53.900 know
01:18:54.080 but I
01:18:54.280 had
01:18:54.380 forgotten
01:18:54.680 about
01:18:55.020 she was
01:18:55.680 his
01:18:55.760 teacher
01:18:55.940 she was
01:18:56.320 I think
01:18:56.580 39
01:18:57.080 and he
01:18:57.560 was
01:18:57.720 14
01:18:58.380 or 15
01:18:59.460 at the
01:18:59.820 most
01:19:00.220 and
01:19:00.880 like
01:19:01.060 he
01:19:01.180 got
01:19:01.380 his
01:19:01.780 parents
01:19:02.040 ejected
01:19:02.460 him
01:19:02.560 from
01:19:02.680 the
01:19:02.800 school
01:19:03.040 because
01:19:03.200 they
01:19:03.340 knew
01:19:03.480 there
01:19:03.640 was
01:19:03.740 something
01:19:03.940 inappropriate
01:19:04.580 between
01:19:05.100 them
01:19:05.280 and she
01:19:05.520 always
01:19:05.780 claimed
01:19:06.000 oh never
01:19:06.360 until he
01:19:06.740 was
01:19:06.920 older
01:19:07.700 but
01:19:08.320 there
01:19:09.120 seemed
01:19:09.340 to be
01:19:09.580 a lot
01:19:09.780 of
01:19:09.880 smoke
01:19:10.120 very
01:19:10.920 creepy
01:19:11.320 the whole
01:19:11.580 thing
01:19:11.760 is very
01:19:12.040 creepy
01:19:12.340 in any
01:19:12.680 way
01:19:12.780 so we'll
01:19:13.800 give them
01:19:14.040 credit
01:19:14.240 for that
01:19:15.020 I will
01:19:17.440 say though
01:19:18.000 my own
01:19:18.960 takeaway
01:19:19.240 from this
01:19:19.760 is
01:19:20.240 Israel
01:19:21.660 needs to
01:19:22.360 wrap up
01:19:22.820 this war
01:19:23.360 and I
01:19:23.880 know
01:19:24.240 they have
01:19:24.760 hostages
01:19:25.260 who are
01:19:25.620 still in
01:19:26.120 the hands
01:19:26.440 of Hamas
01:19:27.000 but Ben
01:19:28.040 Shapiro
01:19:28.460 and I
01:19:29.100 talked about
01:19:29.560 this at
01:19:29.880 length
01:19:30.040 when he
01:19:30.260 was on
01:19:30.600 he said
01:19:32.400 they made
01:19:32.720 a mistake
01:19:33.180 from the
01:19:33.620 beginning
01:19:33.920 in saying
01:19:34.540 they're not
01:19:35.640 going to
01:19:35.840 stop until
01:19:36.300 every hostage
01:19:36.840 is out
01:19:37.240 and that
01:19:38.600 may not
01:19:38.960 be possible
01:19:39.540 and it
01:19:40.220 can't
01:19:40.500 go on
01:19:40.820 forever
01:19:41.080 and
01:19:41.580 honestly
01:19:41.960 it's
01:19:42.140 because
01:19:42.400 I do
01:19:42.760 support
01:19:43.120 Israel
01:19:43.440 that
01:19:43.740 I
01:19:43.920 really
01:19:44.500 would
01:19:44.700 like
01:19:44.860 to
01:19:45.000 see
01:19:45.140 them
01:19:45.300 end
01:19:45.560 this
01:19:45.800 even
01:19:46.520 without
01:19:47.040 the
01:19:48.080 perfect
01:19:48.340 resolution
01:19:48.820 which would
01:19:49.280 be
01:19:49.540 getting
01:19:49.840 all the
01:19:50.140 hostages
01:19:50.500 back
01:19:50.800 they're
01:19:51.320 just
01:19:51.500 losing
01:19:51.820 too much
01:19:52.220 support
01:19:52.640 America
01:19:54.800 starting
01:19:55.520 to turn
01:19:55.900 on them
01:19:56.260 and that
01:19:56.760 cannot
01:19:57.360 happen
01:19:57.780 that
01:19:58.100 just
01:19:58.300 cannot
01:19:58.640 happen
01:19:59.060 they've
01:19:59.760 exacted
01:20:00.360 really
01:20:01.540 appropriate
01:20:02.100 justice
01:20:02.700 in response
01:20:03.800 to what
01:20:04.100 happened
01:20:04.360 to them
01:20:04.660 on
01:20:04.960 10-7
01:20:05.480 Hamas 0.96
01:20:06.080 is entirely
01:20:06.720 to blame
01:20:07.220 for what
01:20:07.520 happened
01:20:07.740 to Israel
01:20:08.080 in 10-7
01:20:08.700 and
01:20:09.660 like the
01:20:11.260 fact that
01:20:11.640 we're even
01:20:11.940 having to
01:20:12.340 have this
01:20:12.680 discussion
01:20:13.100 as Americans
01:20:13.820 and people
01:20:14.460 on the
01:20:14.820 right
01:20:15.100 tells me
01:20:16.140 like this
01:20:17.260 is a
01:20:17.500 crisis
01:20:17.780 for Israel
01:20:18.280 PR crisis
01:20:19.840 is what I
01:20:20.300 mean
01:20:20.460 and they
01:20:20.780 need
01:20:21.140 to wrap
01:20:21.900 it up
01:20:22.200 if I can
01:20:23.060 do one
01:20:23.520 final point
01:20:24.000 on this
01:20:24.300 is you
01:20:24.640 know I
01:20:24.880 had
01:20:25.080 Eli Lake
01:20:25.680 my dear
01:20:26.420 friend
01:20:26.660 of the
01:20:26.820 three of
01:20:28.820 us
01:20:28.980 on the
01:20:30.100 show
01:20:30.380 and Eli
01:20:31.060 is about
01:20:31.640 as you
01:20:32.640 know
01:20:32.980 sort of
01:20:34.060 full-throated
01:20:34.520 of a
01:20:34.740 Zionist 1.00
01:20:35.120 as you
01:20:35.320 can get
01:20:35.620 and I
01:20:36.360 asked him
01:20:36.700 about the
01:20:37.520 operation
01:20:38.080 to Gaza
01:20:38.640 and he
01:20:39.940 said I
01:20:40.320 think it's
01:20:40.640 a terrible
01:20:41.000 idea
01:20:41.460 and Eli
01:20:42.600 is a
01:20:43.000 very very
01:20:43.600 strong
01:20:43.880 supporter
01:20:44.220 of Israel
01:20:44.540 but you
01:20:44.880 also will
01:20:45.400 notice
01:20:45.700 that all
01:20:46.600 of these
01:20:46.920 debates
01:20:47.280 are taking
01:20:48.000 part
01:20:48.600 people are
01:20:49.700 taking part
01:20:50.040 of them
01:20:50.280 in Israel
01:20:51.200 they're very
01:20:51.880 controversial
01:20:52.260 in Israel
01:20:53.060 too
01:20:53.300 so when
01:20:53.960 Charlie Kirk
01:20:54.420 says I
01:20:55.000 don't know
01:20:55.860 if I like
01:20:56.440 the way
01:20:56.740 this war
01:20:57.220 is going
01:20:57.640 he's not
01:20:58.340 only not
01:20:58.700 alone in
01:20:59.080 that
01:20:59.200 he wouldn't
01:20:59.500 be alone
01:20:59.800 in Israel
01:21:00.180 he's not
01:21:00.800 alone
01:21:01.120 amongst
01:21:01.380 people on
01:21:01.840 the right
01:21:02.160 who support
01:21:02.880 Israel
01:21:03.280 in America
01:21:03.780 the wisdom
01:21:04.880 of what
01:21:05.560 Israel is
01:21:06.100 doing
01:21:06.380 is being
01:21:07.520 questioned
01:21:07.960 and it's
01:21:08.560 good that
01:21:09.020 people question
01:21:09.640 those debates
01:21:10.360 are healthy
01:21:10.940 and they're
01:21:11.280 necessary
01:21:11.800 when you do
01:21:12.960 get called
01:21:13.440 an anti-Zionist
01:21:14.980 or an anti-Semite
01:21:16.260 truly
01:21:17.220 when you do
01:21:18.360 try to debate
01:21:18.920 trust me
01:21:19.620 I had two
01:21:20.400 years of
01:21:20.980 totally
01:21:21.880 unbroken
01:21:22.540 universal
01:21:23.220 support
01:21:23.680 for Israel
01:21:24.180 that was
01:21:25.260 it
01:21:25.560 I said
01:21:26.500 two things
01:21:27.300 and this
01:21:27.820 shit storm
01:21:28.420 that rained
01:21:28.840 down on
01:21:29.260 me
01:21:29.400 was
01:21:29.680 unbelievable
01:21:30.420 which is
01:21:31.360 fucked up
01:21:32.160 and that's
01:21:33.440 what Charlie
01:21:33.680 was saying
01:21:34.100 too
01:21:34.380 yeah I
01:21:35.380 mean I
01:21:35.540 think the
01:21:35.800 concern
01:21:36.240 is the
01:21:36.580 difference
01:21:36.940 between
01:21:37.340 those
01:21:37.660 things
01:21:38.060 of
01:21:38.700 questioning
01:21:39.260 and I
01:21:40.320 have no
01:21:40.760 doubt
01:21:41.000 that you
01:21:41.300 I mean
01:21:41.620 if you
01:21:41.880 say it
01:21:42.160 then it's
01:21:42.420 true
01:21:42.620 that people
01:21:43.120 have come
01:21:43.840 down on
01:21:44.180 you
01:21:44.380 but there's
01:21:45.100 no doubt
01:21:45.820 that the
01:21:46.540 difference
01:21:47.300 between
01:21:47.700 someone
01:21:48.160 questioning
01:21:48.920 the wisdom
01:21:49.440 of how
01:21:49.960 Netanyahu
01:21:50.360 has been
01:21:50.640 conducting
01:21:50.960 the war
01:21:51.500 and what
01:21:52.000 the end
01:21:52.420 game
01:21:52.680 of that
01:21:52.960 war
01:21:53.200 is
01:21:53.400 or even
01:21:53.680 the strikes
01:21:54.020 on Iran
01:21:54.540 and America's
01:21:55.100 involvement
01:21:55.500 in them
01:21:55.860 in where
01:21:56.680 the Trump
01:21:57.120 administration
01:21:57.500 is vis-a-vis
01:21:58.260 Israel
01:21:58.560 is totally
01:21:59.340 normal
01:21:59.620 and the
01:22:00.380 conversations
01:22:01.040 that Candace
01:22:02.180 Owens has
01:22:03.180 about this
01:22:03.680 stuff I
01:22:04.080 don't believe
01:22:04.480 to be normal
01:22:05.020 I believe
01:22:05.520 them to be
01:22:05.940 completely
01:22:06.380 insane
01:22:06.820 and they're
01:22:07.780 really really
01:22:08.340 deep in
01:22:09.000 blood libel
01:22:09.720 in really
01:22:10.320 gross old
01:22:11.460 conspiracy
01:22:11.860 theories
01:22:12.340 can I ask
01:22:12.860 you a question
01:22:13.220 on that
01:22:13.660 let me just
01:22:14.360 add an honest
01:22:15.180 question for you
01:22:15.880 an honest
01:22:16.580 question for you
01:22:17.040 on that
01:22:17.320 because I
01:22:18.760 see the
01:22:19.160 clips that
01:22:20.100 they share
01:22:20.680 of Candace
01:22:21.100 online
01:22:21.440 and every
01:22:23.760 once in a
01:22:24.320 while I'll
01:22:24.800 go and just
01:22:25.340 kind of check
01:22:25.840 the clip
01:22:26.220 to see if
01:22:26.920 it's like
01:22:27.320 real
01:22:28.020 and more
01:22:29.040 than once
01:22:29.600 in her
01:22:30.100 case
01:22:30.500 and same
01:22:30.980 thing with
01:22:31.240 Tucker
01:22:31.440 by the way
01:22:31.840 and many
01:22:33.040 times in
01:22:33.460 his case
01:22:33.840 when I go
01:22:34.220 back to
01:22:34.500 the original
01:22:34.860 source
01:22:35.260 I'm like
01:22:35.760 this was
01:22:36.320 taken out
01:22:36.660 of context
01:22:37.140 now I'm
01:22:38.060 a busy
01:22:38.340 person
01:22:38.680 and I
01:22:39.040 don't
01:22:39.240 have time
01:22:40.020 to listen
01:22:40.640 to every
01:22:41.180 podcast
01:22:41.560 whatever
01:22:42.480 if it's
01:22:43.080 not a
01:22:43.320 segment
01:22:43.480 we're
01:22:43.660 going to
01:22:43.780 do on
01:22:43.960 the show
01:22:44.220 I'm
01:22:44.420 probably
01:22:44.640 not going
01:22:47.040 Candace
01:22:47.440 taken out
01:22:47.900 of context
01:22:48.360 many
01:22:49.020 many
01:22:49.360 times
01:22:49.860 and you
01:22:50.480 can
01:22:50.680 times that
01:22:52.020 by 100
01:22:52.500 on Tucker
01:22:53.000 so do
01:22:54.820 you listen
01:22:55.200 to her
01:22:55.420 show
01:22:55.580 like do
01:22:55.860 you actually
01:22:56.260 know
01:22:56.640 that the
01:22:57.420 little clips
01:22:57.900 you've seen
01:22:58.260 online are
01:22:58.920 not taken
01:22:59.820 out of
01:23:00.040 context
01:23:00.440 I think
01:23:01.600 it's
01:23:01.920 an unbelievably
01:23:03.640 important and
01:23:04.500 fair question
01:23:05.060 because I've
01:23:05.440 seen you
01:23:05.820 taken out
01:23:06.300 of context
01:23:07.080 I've seen
01:23:07.520 myself
01:23:07.820 taken out
01:23:08.220 of context
01:23:08.580 I've seen
01:23:09.000 Charlie Kirk
01:23:09.480 taken out
01:23:09.820 of context
01:23:10.180 in the last
01:23:10.520 24 hours
01:23:11.280 you know
01:23:11.960 and say
01:23:12.300 you know
01:23:12.540 Karen
01:23:12.900 Attia
01:23:13.300 getting fired
01:23:14.100 and literally
01:23:15.140 people saying
01:23:15.940 well he
01:23:16.320 just
01:23:16.840 she just 0.65
01:23:17.280 quoted him
01:23:17.840 and the
01:23:18.200 quote
01:23:18.460 was an
01:23:18.860 invention
01:23:19.320 half of
01:23:20.420 it is
01:23:20.760 real
01:23:21.000 the other
01:23:21.420 half
01:23:21.620 isn't
01:23:21.900 and that
01:23:22.120 other half
01:23:22.520 changes
01:23:22.940 entirely
01:23:23.500 but I
01:23:24.660 will say
01:23:25.280 on some
01:23:25.920 of this
01:23:26.220 stuff
01:23:26.400 because I
01:23:26.780 am
01:23:27.040 pretty
01:23:27.980 knowledgeable
01:23:28.680 about some
01:23:29.500 of these
01:23:29.940 conspiracy
01:23:30.420 theories
01:23:30.820 and what
01:23:31.140 people are
01:23:31.480 talking about
01:23:31.800 World War
01:23:32.680 II
01:23:32.860 and stuff
01:23:33.120 so I
01:23:33.640 have watched
01:23:34.100 entire
01:23:34.480 episodes
01:23:34.860 of these
01:23:35.240 things
01:23:35.520 with my
01:23:36.160 jaw on
01:23:36.760 the floor
01:23:37.100 and my
01:23:37.440 eyes
01:23:37.840 rather wide
01:23:38.600 these ideas
01:23:40.000 of Frank
01:23:40.520 and I
01:23:41.740 just I'm
01:23:42.240 surprised by
01:23:43.140 a lot of
01:23:43.960 it but I
01:23:44.460 assure you
01:23:45.300 that this
01:23:46.100 stuff
01:23:46.840 isn't taken
01:23:47.340 out of
01:23:47.560 context
01:23:47.840 and I
01:23:48.280 think what
01:23:48.500 happens with
01:23:48.980 people when
01:23:49.300 they get into
01:23:49.640 conspiracy theories
01:23:50.280 is it's never
01:23:51.220 just one
01:23:51.840 they take the
01:23:52.360 whole passel
01:23:52.980 of them
01:23:53.340 so 9-11
01:23:54.300 you know
01:23:55.080 if it's
01:23:55.400 9-11
01:23:55.880 if it's
01:23:56.640 Israel
01:23:57.220 I think
01:23:58.080 Brigitte
01:23:58.400 Macron was a bit
01:23:59.100 of a surprise
01:23:59.720 that was thrown
01:24:00.640 in there
01:24:00.960 but there is a
01:24:02.200 bit of a
01:24:02.600 conspiratorial way
01:24:03.460 of thinking
01:24:03.840 and you see
01:24:04.280 that for sure
01:24:05.140 on that show
01:24:05.840 every day
01:24:06.320 and I don't
01:24:06.700 listen to it
01:24:07.200 every day
01:24:07.540 absolutely not
01:24:08.700 but I do
01:24:09.500 if I see
01:24:10.500 something that
01:24:11.540 is of interest
01:24:12.220 and I'm kind
01:24:12.980 of writing
01:24:13.360 something about
01:24:14.260 this bigger
01:24:14.760 stuff now
01:24:15.220 I've been
01:24:15.500 watching it
01:24:16.400 to get a
01:24:17.360 sense of
01:24:17.700 what it is
01:24:18.060 she's not
01:24:18.520 here to defend
01:24:18.980 herself
01:24:19.340 but I will
01:24:20.000 say I have
01:24:20.760 checked more
01:24:21.440 than once
01:24:21.880 because I see
01:24:22.280 this crazy
01:24:22.700 quote and I
01:24:23.460 know her a
01:24:23.960 little
01:24:24.140 and she's
01:24:25.680 a fighter
01:24:26.040 she's feisty 1.00
01:24:26.760 I have never
01:24:28.520 known her
01:24:28.900 to be some
01:24:29.560 nut job
01:24:30.000 she's very
01:24:30.980 very fucking
01:24:31.840 smart
01:24:32.200 and the few
01:24:33.960 times I've
01:24:34.820 actually checked
01:24:35.540 and gone deep
01:24:36.140 they've been
01:24:37.300 lies about her 0.99
01:24:37.840 I'm just
01:24:38.700 going to say
01:24:39.020 it they've
01:24:39.300 been lies
01:24:39.680 so at this
01:24:40.440 point
01:24:40.720 look I'm
01:24:41.800 interested
01:24:42.160 like I'm
01:24:42.800 a media
01:24:43.080 person so I
01:24:43.800 look at these
01:24:44.520 clips and I
01:24:44.980 think oh could
01:24:45.340 that possibly
01:24:45.800 be real
01:24:46.240 but for
01:24:47.140 whatever it's
01:24:47.600 worth
01:24:47.820 I've checked
01:24:49.880 personally on
01:24:50.460 some of them
01:24:50.860 and they've
01:24:51.620 been lies about
01:24:52.120 her and once
01:24:52.740 you decide you
01:24:53.720 hate somebody
01:24:54.220 online you
01:24:55.200 can spend
01:24:55.540 your whole
01:24:55.840 life trying
01:24:56.220 to ruin
01:24:56.520 them and
01:24:57.080 people who
01:24:57.580 are like-minded
01:24:58.280 with you
01:24:58.800 will jump
01:24:59.320 on board
01:24:59.720 that's not
01:25:00.540 to that's
01:25:00.960 no knock
01:25:01.400 on Israel
01:25:01.820 or anybody
01:25:02.200 else I
01:25:02.620 just you
01:25:03.600 know take
01:25:03.860 it with a
01:25:04.060 grain of
01:25:04.280 salt and
01:25:04.540 people have
01:25:04.820 to make
01:25:04.980 up their
01:25:05.200 own minds
01:25:05.500 all right
01:25:05.840 stand by
01:25:06.720 because we
01:25:07.020 have to get
01:25:07.340 to Pam
01:25:07.660 Bondi we
01:25:08.060 spent too
01:25:08.400 much time
01:25:08.740 on that
01:25:08.980 one frankly
01:25:09.360 but I
01:25:10.200 wanted to
01:25:10.600 set the
01:25:10.840 record
01:25:11.020 straight on
01:25:11.560 Charlie and
01:25:12.360 my own
01:25:12.720 exchange
01:25:13.420 let's be
01:25:14.840 honest
01:25:15.200 afternoons
01:25:16.120 can be
01:25:16.440 rough energy
01:25:17.360 fades
01:25:17.820 cravings
01:25:18.400 kick in
01:25:18.860 and focus
01:25:19.420 goes out
01:25:20.140 the window
01:25:20.600 another
01:25:21.640 coffee
01:25:22.160 that's the
01:25:23.420 quick fix
01:25:23.940 but it can
01:25:24.500 lead to
01:25:24.880 jitters
01:25:25.220 or a crash
01:25:26.040 later
01:25:26.380 peaks
01:25:27.460 sun goddess
01:25:28.460 matcha
01:25:28.940 is another
01:25:29.660 option
01:25:30.060 whether it's
01:25:30.940 how the day
01:25:31.360 starts or how
01:25:31.900 it gets back
01:25:32.400 on track
01:25:32.880 this matcha
01:25:33.820 is not just
01:25:34.500 a drink
01:25:34.840 it can be
01:25:35.260 a better
01:25:35.660 daily habit
01:25:36.480 it gives
01:25:37.400 steady energy
01:25:38.440 and helps
01:25:38.860 you focus
01:25:39.400 without the
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01:25:40.680 this is not
01:25:41.440 any matcha
01:25:42.140 it's organic
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01:25:45.940 soil far
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01:25:47.820 it is shaded
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01:25:56.920 like lower
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01:26:14.680 Megan
01:26:14.980 to try it
01:26:15.880 for yourself
01:26:16.400 again that's
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01:26:19.640 Megan
01:26:20.020 let's be honest
01:26:22.000 America can still
01:26:22.960 be a dangerous
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01:26:24.000 and you cannot
01:26:24.820 afford to wait
01:26:25.560 for help
01:26:26.060 sure you could
01:26:26.960 use a firearm
01:26:27.600 but in today's
01:26:28.340 America
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01:26:29.480 with deadly
01:26:29.880 force could
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01:26:31.660 according to
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01:26:33.440 99.9%
01:26:34.820 of all
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01:27:23.720 I'm Megan
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01:28:26.400 our friends
01:28:32.340 from the fifth
01:28:32.760 column are with
01:28:33.300 me two news
01:28:34.080 items I wanted
01:28:34.640 to get to
01:28:35.180 number one
01:28:36.820 there is a man
01:28:37.700 named George
01:28:38.400 Zinn
01:28:38.960 who falsely
01:28:40.180 told police
01:28:40.720 that he shot
01:28:41.440 Charlie Kirk
01:28:42.140 moments after
01:28:42.820 the attack
01:28:43.360 he's now
01:28:43.960 been charged
01:28:44.760 according to
01:28:45.580 TMZ
01:28:46.240 with
01:28:47.200 possessing
01:28:48.300 child
01:28:48.820 pornography
01:28:49.760 so there's
01:28:51.120 that
01:28:51.480 and then
01:28:53.520 separately
01:28:54.700 I believe
01:28:55.620 he's the
01:28:56.100 one who
01:28:56.760 it broke
01:28:57.320 about this
01:28:58.560 morning
01:28:58.940 who came
01:28:59.820 out and
01:29:00.580 said he
01:29:01.980 was happy
01:29:02.980 yeah right
01:29:04.060 it was him
01:29:04.540 Deb
01:29:04.720 that he was
01:29:05.600 happy
01:29:06.060 that he
01:29:08.100 helped
01:29:08.540 the gunman
01:29:09.180 escape
01:29:09.620 by distracting
01:29:11.120 police
01:29:11.660 on the spot
01:29:12.640 remember he's
01:29:13.160 the one who
01:29:13.480 was in cuffs
01:29:14.000 and originally
01:29:14.620 we thought
01:29:15.000 maybe this
01:29:15.380 was the
01:29:15.640 man
01:29:15.900 and if
01:29:16.820 TMZ's
01:29:17.340 reporting
01:29:17.640 is right
01:29:18.140 he is
01:29:19.480 a disgusting
01:29:20.000 pervert 0.58
01:29:20.540 if not
01:29:21.840 correct
01:29:22.320 I'm sure
01:29:23.280 he'll let
01:29:23.600 us know
01:29:23.940 we are
01:29:25.940 continuing to
01:29:26.580 await the
01:29:27.040 charging documents
01:29:28.020 against the
01:29:29.660 man accused
01:29:30.100 of shooting
01:29:30.520 Charlie
01:29:31.000 that should
01:29:31.460 come in
01:29:32.040 in a matter
01:29:32.720 of hours
01:29:33.260 less than
01:29:34.320 I think
01:29:34.740 an hour
01:29:35.120 we're gonna
01:29:35.720 have a presser
01:29:36.240 on it
01:29:36.540 and then
01:29:36.900 we'll have
01:29:37.240 a full
01:29:37.620 breakdown
01:29:37.960 of that
01:29:38.240 for you
01:29:38.500 tomorrow
01:29:38.780 and then
01:29:39.140 secondly
01:29:39.440 in unrelated
01:29:39.980 news
01:29:40.380 I do
01:29:41.300 want to
01:29:41.700 bring this
01:29:42.720 to you
01:29:42.920 because it's
01:29:43.240 just kind
01:29:43.640 of fun
01:29:43.980 Fannie 0.53
01:29:46.300 Willis
01:29:46.680 is officially
01:29:47.920 toast
01:29:48.360 on her
01:29:49.640 criminal case
01:29:51.400 against Donald
01:29:52.060 Trump
01:29:52.380 which by the
01:29:53.100 way has not
01:29:53.480 been thrown
01:29:53.780 out
01:29:54.040 I mean
01:29:55.180 amazingly
01:29:55.500 people think
01:29:55.920 that was
01:29:56.160 been thrown
01:29:56.460 it was not
01:29:56.980 thrown out
01:29:57.360 she was
01:29:58.240 thrown off
01:29:58.660 the case
01:29:59.080 because of
01:29:59.960 her inability 0.98
01:30:00.720 to keep it
01:30:01.220 in the pants
01:30:01.680 and then
01:30:03.500 she appealed
01:30:04.260 to an appellate
01:30:05.040 court saying
01:30:05.460 I was unfairly
01:30:06.220 removed
01:30:06.620 and they said
01:30:07.900 eh
01:30:08.360 we don't
01:30:08.860 think so
01:30:09.220 and then
01:30:09.960 she appealed
01:30:10.460 to the Georgia
01:30:11.040 high court
01:30:11.700 and they said
01:30:12.600 we don't want
01:30:13.140 anything to do
01:30:13.560 with this
01:30:13.960 they said
01:30:14.640 what most
01:30:15.380 most of us
01:30:15.880 said
01:30:16.000 we looked
01:30:16.300 at Fannie
01:30:16.640 Willis
01:30:16.920 which was
01:30:17.260 we don't
01:30:18.160 want anything
01:30:18.520 to do
01:30:18.800 with it
01:30:19.100 and they
01:30:20.320 rejected the
01:30:20.920 appeal
01:30:21.240 so she's
01:30:21.800 officially
01:30:22.100 removed
01:30:22.540 and right
01:30:22.880 now that
01:30:23.240 case is
01:30:23.660 dead
01:30:23.920 because it
01:30:24.460 has no
01:30:24.740 prosecutor
01:30:25.160 attached to
01:30:25.680 it
01:30:25.840 and Phil
01:30:26.840 Holloway
01:30:27.140 has been
01:30:27.340 explaining to
01:30:27.800 us for a
01:30:28.180 couple years
01:30:28.520 now
01:30:28.800 none is
01:30:29.940 likely to
01:30:30.540 be
01:30:30.760 so by
01:30:31.920 all intents
01:30:32.400 and purposes
01:30:32.780 that case
01:30:33.840 is dead
01:30:34.380 it's another
01:30:35.000 win for
01:30:35.440 Trump
01:30:35.760 like Kamala
01:30:37.240 Harris
01:30:37.520 we'll miss
01:30:37.960 Fannie 0.53
01:30:38.300 now that
01:30:39.180 she's
01:30:39.360 officially
01:30:39.700 gone
01:30:40.120 I look
01:30:41.300 forward to
01:30:41.600 her career
01:30:42.020 as an
01:30:42.600 MSNBC
01:30:43.100 contributor
01:30:43.580 because she
01:30:43.960 could be
01:30:44.200 kind of
01:30:44.440 interesting
01:30:44.780 to follow
01:30:45.600 MSNOW
01:30:47.320 you're right
01:30:50.180 I'm sorry
01:30:50.620 my bad
01:30:51.020 and speaking
01:30:52.200 of prosecutors
01:30:53.220 who say
01:30:54.720 or do dumb
01:30:55.160 things and
01:30:55.540 get themselves
01:30:55.980 in trouble
01:30:56.440 we got to
01:30:57.400 discuss Pam
01:30:57.960 Bondi
01:30:58.880 all the guys
01:30:59.700 are shaking
01:31:00.060 their heads
01:31:00.460 no right
01:31:01.200 now for
01:31:01.640 listening
01:31:01.960 audience
01:31:02.340 because
01:31:02.800 none of us
01:31:03.600 can believe
01:31:03.960 this actually
01:31:04.440 happened
01:31:04.800 but it
01:31:05.180 did happen
01:31:05.640 and therefore
01:31:06.000 we must
01:31:06.400 discuss it
01:31:07.040 Pam Bondi
01:31:08.320 said one
01:31:08.640 of the dumbest
01:31:09.120 things you
01:31:09.500 can say
01:31:09.960 as an
01:31:10.960 attorney
01:31:11.200 general
01:31:11.560 do we
01:31:11.800 have
01:31:11.940 here
01:31:12.060 I'm
01:31:12.160 looking
01:31:12.340 on my
01:31:12.620 sought
01:31:12.820 list
01:31:13.040 yeah
01:31:13.220 here
01:31:13.400 it is
01:31:13.760 several
01:31:14.740 very
01:31:15.060 dumb
01:31:15.280 things
01:31:15.620 yeah
01:31:16.020 several
01:31:16.660 several
01:31:17.260 because
01:31:17.540 she
01:31:17.700 went
01:31:17.860 on
01:31:18.060 Fox
01:31:18.480 News
01:31:18.840 and
01:31:19.200 she
01:31:19.400 went
01:31:19.580 on
01:31:19.700 this
01:31:19.860 podcast
01:31:20.200 with
01:31:20.560 someone
01:31:20.780 named
01:31:21.020 Katie
01:31:21.240 Miller
01:31:21.500 and it
01:31:22.540 it's
01:31:23.520 unbelievable
01:31:23.820 there was
01:31:24.080 absolutely
01:31:24.280 no pushback
01:31:24.880 but here
01:31:25.380 is what
01:31:25.720 here's
01:31:26.280 what Pam
01:31:26.580 said
01:31:26.840 in
01:31:26.980 Sod 18
01:31:27.340 there's
01:31:28.840 free speech
01:31:29.460 and then
01:31:29.940 there's
01:31:30.120 hate
01:31:30.320 speech
01:31:30.700 and there
01:31:31.840 is
01:31:32.040 no
01:31:32.740 place
01:31:33.380 especially
01:31:34.060 now
01:31:34.460 especially
01:31:34.920 after what
01:31:35.360 happened
01:31:35.700 to Charlie
01:31:36.280 in our
01:31:36.700 society
01:31:37.260 do you
01:31:38.480 see
01:31:38.900 more
01:31:40.040 law
01:31:40.500 enforcement
01:31:40.960 going
01:31:41.340 after
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01:32:04.820 fully
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01:32:12.060 Trump
01:32:12.220 administration
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01:32:30.340 Pam
01:32:30.640 Bondi
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01:32:31.440 say
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01:32:32.480 whoa
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01:32:36.860 that
01:32:37.000 nonsense
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01:32:38.860 pesky
01:32:39.380 document
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01:32:43.720 principle
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01:32:47.440 tweeted
01:32:47.700 out
01:32:47.820 this
01:32:47.940 morning
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01:32:48.440 way
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01:32:48.840 Bondi
01:32:49.180 does
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01:32:56.640 Miller
01:32:56.860 said
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01:32:57.380 J.D.
01:32:57.940 Vance
01:32:58.160 when he
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01:32:58.780 on
01:32:58.940 Charlie's
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01:33:00.540 Miller
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01:33:28.440 much
01:33:28.620 credit
01:33:28.920 that's
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01:33:33.060 morning
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01:33:33.460 Bondi
01:33:33.820 and
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01:33:34.860 to
01:33:35.000 say
01:33:35.120 this
01:33:35.480 hate
01:33:36.800 speech
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01:33:41.380 the
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01:33:41.660 Amendment
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01:33:43.780 another
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01:33:46.620 needed
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01:33:49.300 the
01:33:49.420 First
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01:33:51.740 an
01:33:51.900 actual
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01:33:52.800 law
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01:34:02.280 States
01:34:02.540 of
01:34:02.660 America
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01:34:04.700 line
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01:34:05.280 hate
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01:34:32.780 the
01:34:32.920 floor
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01:34:33.560 about
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01:34:34.340 hannity
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01:34:35.640 should
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01:34:36.040 matt
01:34:36.220 welch
01:34:36.480 who
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01:34:37.300 hour
01:34:37.520 yeah
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01:34:40.700 welch
01:34:41.060 and
01:34:41.180 matt
01:34:41.360 walsh
01:34:41.680 on
01:34:42.880 something
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01:34:43.840 matt
01:34:45.680 walsh
01:34:46.440 was
01:34:46.960 was
01:34:47.640 correct
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01:34:48.560 saying
01:34:48.760 also
01:34:49.720 what
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01:34:50.640 fuck
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01:34:51.260 that's
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01:34:58.300 states
01:34:58.760 hate
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01:35:02.320 top
01:35:02.660 law
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01:35:03.220 person
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01:35:04.220 country
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01:35:05.720 a
01:35:05.840 question
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01:35:07.280 cuffs
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01:35:08.220 a
01:35:08.340 lesson
01:35:08.620 no
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01:35:12.260 ourselves
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01:35:13.160 it
01:35:13.280 wrong
01:35:13.460 I
01:35:13.660 should
01:35:13.920 play
01:35:14.140 the
01:35:14.260 Pam
01:35:14.440 Bondi
01:35:14.760 side
01:35:14.960 on
01:35:15.140 Hannity
01:35:15.460 because
01:35:15.880 you
01:35:27.520 shouldn't
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01:35:28.620 you
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01:35:38.700 dylan
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01:35:39.440 our
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01:35:42.740 office
01:35:43.060 depot
01:35:43.520 had
01:35:43.700 done
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01:35:44.280 looking
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01:35:44.740 that
01:35:45.020 keep
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01:35:46.560 Matt
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01:35:47.680 office
01:35:47.980 depot
01:35:48.360 fired
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01:35:49.060 person
01:35:49.380 or
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01:35:57.180 government
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01:36:01.180 obligation
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01:36:02.040 as a
01:36:02.560 company
01:36:02.840 to
01:36:03.320 print
01:36:03.580 that
01:36:03.780 flyer
01:36:04.200 what are
01:36:06.000 we
01:36:06.340 even
01:36:10.580 doing
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01:36:11.100 there's
01:36:11.340 all
01:36:11.560 these
01:36:11.720 things
01:36:11.920 adjudicated
01:36:12.800 at the
01:36:13.060 Supreme
01:36:13.260 Court
01:36:13.540 over and
01:36:13.940 over
01:36:14.100 again
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01:36:14.640 these
01:36:14.860 are
01:36:15.040 nine
01:36:15.360 nothing
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01:36:17.320 nothing
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01:36:18.100 our
01:36:18.220 friend
01:36:18.420 Charlie
01:36:18.660 Cook
01:36:18.900 rightly
01:36:19.440 pointed
01:36:19.780 out
01:36:19.960 in a
01:36:20.160 very
01:36:20.300 good
01:36:20.480 column
01:36:20.740 of
01:36:20.860 national
01:36:21.120 review
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01:36:21.980 it was
01:36:22.340 great
01:36:22.600 it's
01:36:23.060 garbage
01:36:23.340 and
01:36:23.680 I'm
01:36:24.240 heartened
01:36:24.920 because
01:36:25.340 Republicans
01:36:26.400 conservatives
01:36:26.960 in the
01:36:27.780 Trump
01:36:28.280 era
01:36:28.520 have
01:36:28.740 spent
01:36:29.060 a lot
01:36:29.480 of
01:36:29.600 time
01:36:29.940 backtracking
01:36:30.700 against
01:36:31.460 or
01:36:31.980 repudiating
01:36:33.240 their
01:36:33.500 previously
01:36:34.220 held
01:36:34.480 positions
01:36:34.960 on a
01:36:35.340 lot
01:36:35.500 of
01:36:35.620 things
01:36:35.800 especially
01:36:36.140 in
01:36:36.300 economics
01:36:36.640 but
01:36:36.820 not
01:36:36.980 only
01:36:37.200 a lot
01:36:37.780 of
01:36:37.900 different
01:36:38.140 ways
01:36:38.500 they
01:36:38.660 have
01:36:38.900 done
01:36:39.100 this
01:36:39.400 it's
01:36:40.220 been
01:36:40.360 heartening
01:36:40.740 to
01:36:46.680 hate
01:36:47.600 speech
01:36:47.980 isn't
01:36:48.460 a
01:36:48.680 thing
01:36:48.900 this
01:36:49.160 isn't
01:36:49.500 embarrassing
01:36:49.980 you
01:36:50.200 should
01:36:50.340 go
01:36:50.500 they
01:36:50.680 are
01:36:50.840 right
01:36:51.100 and
01:36:51.380 she
01:36:51.560 should
01:36:51.820 go ahead
01:36:53.140 Camille
01:36:53.360 well
01:36:54.320 Jonathan
01:36:54.800 Carl
01:36:55.200 though
01:36:55.460 asked
01:36:56.040 the
01:36:56.220 president
01:36:56.480 about
01:36:56.780 this
01:36:57.120 a little
01:36:57.540 earlier
01:36:57.920 this
01:36:58.200 morning
01:36:58.480 and
01:36:59.240 so
01:36:59.400 not
01:36:59.600 everybody
01:37:00.260 is
01:37:00.780 what
01:37:01.120 you're
01:37:01.380 going
01:37:01.480 to tell
01:37:01.780 me
01:37:01.920 the
01:37:02.120 president
01:37:03.160 was
01:37:04.300 not
01:37:04.560 perfect
01:37:05.120 we do
01:37:05.940 here it
01:37:06.540 is
01:37:06.840 here it
01:37:07.780 is
01:37:08.160 the
01:37:09.100 question
01:37:09.380 wasn't
01:37:09.640 perfect
01:37:09.820 Pam
01:37:10.380 Bondi
01:37:10.760 saying
01:37:11.000 she's
01:37:11.220 going
01:37:11.320 to
01:37:11.340 go
01:37:11.480 after
01:37:11.660 hate
01:37:12.060 speech
01:37:12.500 is
01:37:13.440 that
01:37:13.640 I
01:37:13.800 mean
01:37:13.940 a lot
01:37:14.260 of
01:37:14.320 people
01:37:14.500 a lot
01:37:14.780 of
01:37:14.820 your
01:37:14.940 allies
01:37:15.220 say
01:37:15.460 hate
01:37:15.680 speech
01:37:15.980 is
01:37:16.140 free
01:37:16.380 speech
01:37:16.720 should
01:37:17.180 probably
01:37:17.440 go
01:37:17.620 after
01:37:17.840 people
01:37:18.160 like
01:37:18.480 you
01:37:18.720 because
01:37:19.240 you treat
01:37:19.620 me so
01:37:20.020 unfairly
01:37:20.640 it's
01:37:20.840 hate
01:37:21.060 you have
01:37:21.580 a lot
01:37:21.800 of hate
01:37:22.080 in your
01:37:22.380 heart
01:37:22.700 maybe
01:37:23.460 they'll
01:37:23.760 come after
01:37:24.200 ABC
01:37:24.660 well ABC
01:37:25.820 paid me
01:37:26.360 16 million
01:37:27.100 dollars recently
01:37:27.960 for a form
01:37:29.140 of hate
01:37:29.520 speech
01:37:29.840 right
01:37:30.100 your company
01:37:31.040 paid me
01:37:31.500 16 million
01:37:32.220 dollars
01:37:32.700 for a form
01:37:34.080 of hate
01:37:34.460 speech
01:37:34.720 so maybe
01:37:35.520 they'll have
01:37:35.900 to go
01:37:36.160 after you
01:37:36.640 look
01:37:37.140 we want
01:37:37.800 everything
01:37:38.120 to be
01:37:38.480 fair
01:37:38.780 it hasn't
01:37:39.480 been
01:37:39.680 fair
01:37:39.920 and
01:37:40.460 the
01:37:40.640 radical
01:37:41.000 left
01:37:41.340 has
01:37:41.580 done
01:37:41.760 tremendous
01:37:42.260 damage
01:37:42.640 to the
01:37:42.940 country
01:37:43.280 that
01:37:44.580 is
01:37:45.100 the
01:37:45.280 first
01:37:45.580 genuine
01:37:46.080 laugh
01:37:46.480 I've
01:37:46.740 had
01:37:47.020 in a
01:37:47.360 week
01:37:47.620 I
01:37:49.560 think
01:37:50.080 in
01:37:50.360 fairness
01:37:50.900 like
01:37:51.360 Jonathan
01:37:51.640 Carl's
01:37:52.000 question
01:37:52.300 was
01:37:52.480 not
01:37:52.680 very
01:37:52.940 good
01:37:53.260 like
01:37:53.620 to
01:37:53.780 the
01:37:53.900 extent
01:37:54.060 the
01:37:54.280 president's
01:37:54.720 allies
01:37:55.080 and
01:37:55.280 people
01:37:55.500 beyond
01:37:55.900 that
01:37:56.200 that
01:37:56.420 orbit
01:37:56.740 who
01:37:57.120 say
01:37:57.540 hate
01:37:58.220 speech
01:37:58.500 this
01:37:58.700 is
01:37:59.060 a
01:37:59.200 problematic
01:37:59.580 concept
01:38:00.300 it's
01:38:00.760 not
01:38:00.880 that
01:38:00.980 we
01:38:01.100 say
01:38:01.300 hate
01:38:01.680 speech
01:38:01.900 is
01:38:02.000 free
01:38:02.160 speech
01:38:02.360 we
01:38:02.680 say
01:38:02.820 hate
01:38:03.000 speech
01:38:03.220 is
01:38:03.360 the
01:38:03.500 nonsense
01:38:09.680 was
01:38:09.940 it
01:38:10.020 would
01:38:10.100 be
01:38:10.200 a
01:38:10.320 totally
01:38:10.580 subjective
01:38:11.020 category
01:38:11.460 and
01:38:11.620 this
01:38:11.760 is
01:38:11.900 why
01:38:12.180 it's
01:38:12.380 a
01:38:12.460 problem
01:38:12.840 it's
01:38:14.100 separate
01:38:14.420 from
01:38:14.600 incitement
01:38:14.980 we can
01:38:15.220 talk
01:38:15.420 about
01:38:15.660 that
01:38:15.880 differently
01:38:16.280 and
01:38:16.460 I
01:38:16.560 think
01:38:16.740 the
01:38:16.920 president's
01:38:17.460 preamble
01:38:17.980 in which
01:38:19.020 he
01:38:19.200 referred
01:38:19.660 to
01:38:20.160 various
01:38:20.960 media
01:38:21.500 coverage
01:38:21.880 as
01:38:22.140 hate
01:38:22.400 speech
01:38:22.680 categorically
01:38:23.400 I
01:38:23.940 think
01:38:24.260 it's
01:38:24.460 safe
01:38:24.880 to
01:38:25.080 say
01:38:25.300 he
01:38:25.500 was
01:38:25.680 joking
01:38:26.040 but
01:38:26.640 I
01:38:26.760 wish
01:38:27.300 that
01:38:28.020 the
01:38:28.140 answer
01:38:28.380 because
01:38:28.640 I
01:38:28.800 think
01:38:28.940 the
01:38:29.140 more
01:38:29.580 serious
01:38:29.920 answer
01:38:30.220 came
01:38:30.440 afterwards
01:38:30.960 we
01:38:31.120 want
01:38:31.280 to
01:38:31.360 be
01:38:31.500 fair
01:38:31.780 everybody
01:38:33.740 all over
01:38:34.080 the airwaves
01:38:34.480 calling him
01:38:34.980 a nazi
01:38:35.520 and a
01:38:35.820 fascist
01:38:36.220 that is
01:38:36.520 hate
01:38:36.680 speech
01:38:36.960 and it's
01:38:37.600 lawful
01:38:37.840 to the
01:38:38.200 extent
01:38:38.660 it could
01:38:39.060 be
01:38:39.220 anything
01:38:39.620 it could
01:38:40.060 certainly
01:38:40.340 be the
01:38:40.620 case
01:38:40.780 that we
01:38:40.960 could
01:38:41.080 categorize
01:38:41.580 that
01:38:41.820 but
01:38:42.020 it is
01:38:42.280 totally
01:38:42.620 lawful
01:38:43.040 as you
01:38:43.340 put it
01:38:43.740 and I
01:38:44.240 think
01:38:44.400 that's
01:38:44.720 the
01:38:44.820 point
01:38:45.000 but
01:38:45.160 the
01:38:45.800 president
01:38:46.080 isn't
01:38:46.400 a
01:38:46.520 lawyer
01:38:46.720 is
01:38:47.240 the
01:38:47.380 most
01:38:47.860 important
01:38:48.260 point
01:38:48.580 we
01:38:48.860 know
01:38:49.100 that
01:38:49.320 he's
01:38:49.540 many
01:38:49.780 things
01:38:50.120 can we
01:38:50.800 watch
01:38:51.040 the
01:38:51.180 beginning
01:38:51.460 of
01:38:51.600 that
01:38:51.720 again
01:38:52.020 I
01:38:52.260 need
01:38:53.280 to
01:38:53.360 see
01:38:53.480 the
01:38:53.620 beginning
01:38:53.920 this
01:38:54.560 is
01:38:54.700 why
01:38:54.860 let's
01:38:55.100 re-rack
01:38:55.400 what do
01:38:55.620 you think
01:38:55.780 Pam
01:38:56.140 Bondi
01:38:56.520 is saying
01:38:56.760 she's
01:38:56.980 going to
01:38:57.100 go after
01:38:57.420 hate
01:38:57.820 speech
01:38:58.260 is that
01:38:59.400 I mean
01:38:59.720 a lot of
01:39:00.080 people
01:39:00.260 a lot of
01:39:00.580 your allies
01:39:00.960 say hate
01:39:01.420 speech is
01:39:01.900 free speech
01:39:02.460 you probably
01:39:03.180 go after
01:39:03.600 people like
01:39:04.240 you
01:39:04.500 because you
01:39:05.160 treat me
01:39:05.540 so unfairly
01:39:06.400 it's hate
01:39:06.840 you have a lot
01:39:07.560 of hate
01:39:07.860 in your heart
01:39:09.140 this is
01:39:11.480 vintage Trump
01:39:12.400 I love that
01:39:14.000 he wasn't
01:39:15.020 doing the
01:39:15.580 New York
01:39:15.820 Times again
01:39:16.580 this morning
01:39:17.640 yeah
01:39:17.920 okay but
01:39:18.420 listen
01:39:18.720 he can do
01:39:19.520 no other
01:39:20.020 you know
01:39:20.860 when asked
01:39:21.460 a question
01:39:21.840 like that
01:39:22.260 by ABC
01:39:22.840 News
01:39:23.160 he can
01:39:23.580 do no
01:39:24.000 other
01:39:24.260 who could
01:39:25.600 blame him
01:39:26.060 for saying
01:39:26.540 that
01:39:26.820 I think
01:39:27.280 that was
01:39:27.660 actually
01:39:28.000 quite very
01:39:28.480 funny
01:39:28.660 go ahead
01:39:28.900 Matt
01:39:29.060 one hand
01:39:29.440 I would
01:39:31.440 say one
01:39:32.100 thing about
01:39:32.460 this is
01:39:32.800 that we
01:39:33.260 have this
01:39:33.960 creeping
01:39:34.580 concept of
01:39:36.000 what of
01:39:36.460 speech like
01:39:36.880 you know
01:39:37.180 is hateful
01:39:37.920 speech it
01:39:38.380 becomes hate
01:39:38.880 speech why
01:39:39.300 does it
01:39:39.500 become hate
01:39:39.860 speech because
01:39:40.600 it's a
01:39:40.960 category in
01:39:41.720 other countries
01:39:42.460 and it's
01:39:43.480 why certain
01:39:44.260 people that
01:39:44.740 I know in
01:39:45.420 other countries
01:39:46.000 envy the
01:39:46.680 United States
01:39:47.180 it is the
01:39:47.640 most American
01:39:48.400 thing is to
01:39:49.600 have a
01:39:49.900 first amendment
01:39:50.420 and to
01:39:50.940 zealously
01:39:51.460 protect it
01:39:52.160 even for
01:39:52.960 the worst
01:39:53.560 shittiest
01:39:54.120 ideas that's
01:39:55.160 why we have
01:39:55.720 it it's not
01:39:56.060 for my ideas
01:39:56.800 or your ideas
01:39:57.480 it's for those
01:39:58.540 who have the
01:39:58.920 really shitty
01:39:59.460 ideas so I
01:40:00.680 don't love
01:40:01.400 that that we're
01:40:02.480 using the phrase
01:40:03.460 at all because
01:40:04.520 where it comes
01:40:05.220 from is I think
01:40:06.160 that we it's
01:40:06.840 also very
01:40:07.260 problematic and
01:40:08.400 for a really
01:40:09.380 for a reason
01:40:09.860 that really
01:40:10.100 depresses me I
01:40:10.700 don't even can't
01:40:11.280 even quite put my
01:40:11.800 finger on it we
01:40:12.600 never have a
01:40:13.220 conversation about
01:40:13.940 the absurdity of
01:40:14.600 hate crimes laws
01:40:15.720 because it's
01:40:16.480 usually you know
01:40:17.100 adding a little
01:40:18.220 extra flavor
01:40:19.360 five ten years
01:40:20.420 because of the
01:40:21.320 thoughts that
01:40:21.840 were going
01:40:22.160 through somebody's
01:40:22.840 head when they
01:40:23.820 were committing a
01:40:24.400 crime that was
01:40:25.160 already on the
01:40:25.820 books as a
01:40:26.520 crime that once
01:40:28.120 we accepted that
01:40:29.100 idea it's a pretty
01:40:30.680 easy navigation to
01:40:31.840 say well there
01:40:32.320 were there is
01:40:32.760 hate speech and
01:40:33.860 yeah she as a 1.00
01:40:35.740 Republican
01:40:36.400 attorney general
01:40:37.100 I'm not but no
01:40:37.960 she should know
01:40:38.880 better yeah
01:40:39.820 yeah it's like
01:40:40.720 this she should 0.86
01:40:41.580 resign Jack
01:40:42.960 Phillips is the 0.69
01:40:43.860 cake baker who
01:40:44.700 said I'm not
01:40:45.240 going to bake
01:40:45.600 that gay wedding 0.97
01:40:46.260 cake because it
01:40:46.960 doesn't align with
01:40:47.580 my values I'll
01:40:48.280 bake you a cake
01:40:49.700 but not I'm not
01:40:50.760 going to put like
01:40:51.200 the grooms on the
01:40:52.260 front of it you
01:40:53.100 know and I'll and
01:40:53.740 you can have any
01:40:55.080 other pastry from
01:40:56.020 my shop but I
01:40:57.240 can't be forced to
01:40:58.720 endorse something
01:41:00.420 that I don't
01:41:00.980 endorse and the
01:41:02.260 Supreme Court said
01:41:02.940 he's right and
01:41:04.260 they just reiterated
01:41:05.560 that in 303
01:41:06.520 creative two
01:41:07.540 sessions ago so
01:41:08.980 she absolutely
01:41:11.560 should know
01:41:12.940 all of this I'm
01:41:14.960 concerned that
01:41:16.000 they're talking
01:41:16.460 this way and I
01:41:17.940 will be the first
01:41:18.540 to criticize the
01:41:19.380 Trump administration
01:41:19.900 if it tries to
01:41:21.420 actually crack down
01:41:22.500 on quote hate
01:41:23.680 speech now having
01:41:24.580 said all that I
01:41:26.220 have zero sympathy
01:41:27.340 for the people who
01:41:28.120 are getting fired
01:41:29.060 because of their
01:41:30.760 inhumanity in
01:41:32.300 response to
01:41:32.920 Charlie's
01:41:33.300 assassination fire
01:41:35.080 them all I'm
01:41:37.000 thrilled to see
01:41:37.900 them getting their
01:41:39.080 asses fired you 0.70
01:41:40.700 celebrate any
01:41:42.080 political
01:41:42.460 assassination you're 1.00
01:41:43.740 fireable as far as
01:41:44.620 I'm concerned that
01:41:45.500 doesn't mean it's a
01:41:46.160 crime doesn't mean
01:41:46.760 that federal
01:41:47.500 government should get
01:41:48.220 involved and if
01:41:49.080 those losers in the 0.55
01:41:50.220 office depot who
01:41:51.540 were fired by office
01:41:52.380 depot who didn't
01:41:53.000 want to print flyers
01:41:54.480 with Charlie's photo
01:41:55.700 on them should be
01:41:57.280 publicly shamed and
01:41:58.720 they should be fired I
01:41:59.640 think that's fine but
01:42:00.980 they shouldn't be
01:42:01.660 prosecuted that like
01:42:03.220 we have to know where
01:42:04.000 our lines are anyway
01:42:06.100 that's I guess I stole
01:42:07.140 the last word anyone
01:42:07.860 want to weigh in
01:42:08.480 anyone I don't I
01:42:10.540 don't like the false
01:42:11.140 positives there are
01:42:12.100 people who are being
01:42:13.020 punished and sanctioned
01:42:14.520 professionally and in
01:42:16.400 these these online
01:42:17.820 mobbing you're just
01:42:18.500 saying for saying
01:42:19.180 things about Charlie
01:42:20.200 lame yeah yeah if
01:42:22.180 you're just saying
01:42:22.660 negative things about
01:42:23.440 Charlie that's that
01:42:24.540 doesn't show very good
01:42:25.860 character and the man
01:42:26.840 isn't even buried your
01:42:28.040 wife is saying negative
01:42:29.420 things about him and
01:42:30.200 you're losing your job
01:42:30.920 because of it which
01:42:31.540 that's a problem yeah
01:42:33.020 that's not right but if
01:42:34.240 you are celebrating his
01:42:35.200 death I'm all for the
01:42:36.640 firings all for you if
01:42:38.320 you were if you were
01:42:39.200 for my company and
01:42:40.320 you're so stupid to
01:42:41.620 put your
01:42:41.960 online for everyone to
01:42:44.800 see yeah yeah me you
01:42:46.920 get fired for being
01:42:47.880 that dumb not for your
01:42:49.520 speech just for you
01:42:50.260 being an idiot keep bad
01:42:52.380 shitty ideas to
01:42:53.360 yourself and you know
01:42:54.940 say them over a glass
01:42:55.960 of wine don't say for
01:42:56.920 everyone I'm so glad we
01:42:58.120 could end on that note
01:42:59.340 of harmony love you guys
01:43:01.140 thank you so much and
01:43:03.140 I'll see you soon in
01:43:04.100 person and by the way
01:43:05.560 if you guys want to get
01:43:06.180 tickets to the tour go to
01:43:07.200 megankelly.com
01:43:08.380 thanks for listening to
01:43:12.340 the megan kelly show no
01:43:13.700 bs no agenda and no fear