The Megyn Kelly Show - Cultural Decay Leading to Left Celebrating Violence, and Defining ＂Hate Speech,＂ with The Fifth Column ｜ Ep. 1150

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.260 We have breaking news this morning as we are learning more about the Charlie Kirk assassination.

00:00:20.200 Plus, there is a big debate breaking out over what to be done about hate speech in America.

00:00:26.440 Nothing. The answer is nothing. It's fine.

00:00:30.000 It's part of being American. Too bad. You don't like it? Speak the opposite.

00:00:35.100 That's the answer. You're American. That's how we do it here.

00:00:38.480 There's nothing wrong with hate speech. Sorry. Not legally.

00:00:41.880 There's nothing for a prosecutor to do, an attorney general to do.

00:00:45.940 The only thing you do is to speak louder with your POV. That's it.

00:00:49.600 There, I solved it.

00:00:51.200 But we're going to start with what FBI Director Kash Patel just told Senator Josh Hawley

00:00:56.060 about an online chat group involving alleged shooter Tyler Robinson. Watch.

00:01:04.860 Unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a Discord chat.

00:01:09.120 And for those unfamiliar with it, it's a gaming chat room online that the suspect participated in.

00:01:16.600 And so what we're doing, we've already done a sort of legal process, not just on Discord,

00:01:21.200 so that the information we gathered is sustained and held in an evidentiary posture that we could use in prosecution,

00:01:29.000 should it be decided to do so.

00:01:30.500 And we're also going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that Discord chat.

00:01:35.340 Okay, very good. I see the public reports that the Discord thread had as many as 20 additional users.

00:01:40.800 It sounds like you're trying to run down all of that to see if that's accurate,

00:01:44.940 who else may have been on that thread, what they may have known. Is that fair to say?

00:01:48.720 It's a lot more than that. We're running them all down.

00:01:50.600 It's a lot more than 20?

00:01:51.900 Yes, sir.

00:01:52.860 And you're running all of that together?

00:01:54.100 Every single one.

00:01:55.080 Yeah, fantastic.

00:01:55.860 A lot more than 20. That makes sense. If you listen to AM Update today, we laid out the list of just alleged ex-accounts

00:02:06.580 and online social media posts before Charlie's assassination promising something devastating was going to happen to him on September 10th.

00:02:16.540 And then spikes of the football thereafter.

00:02:20.280 It's disturbing. It's very telling.

00:02:22.260 It's going to be very hard for somebody to actually meaningfully argue that these people had no foreknowledge.

00:02:29.880 By the way, on AM Update, we attributed most of that reporting to the Washington Free Beacon, which did do a good report.

00:02:35.120 But the person who broke all of this was someone online who goes by Aesthetica.

00:02:39.620 It's at ANC underscore aesthetics.

00:02:43.440 And this was the person who actually broke all that news, and it should have been properly attributed.

00:02:48.200 Tyler Robinson is due to make his first court appearance later this afternoon, where we are expecting to learn exactly which charges he faces.

00:02:57.700 He's supposed to be in court at 3 p.m. Utah time.

00:03:01.500 I think that's right, 3 p.m. Utah time, which would be 5 p.m. here.

00:03:05.180 And two hours before that, they're expected to release more details on the charges, which would be 1 p.m. Utah time at 3 p.m. Eastern.

00:03:15.300 Joining me now to react to all of this are pals from The Fifth Column podcast, Camille Foster, editor-at-large for Tangle News, Michael Moynihan, host of The Moynihan Report on 2A, and Matt Welsh, editor-at-large for Reason.

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00:05:13.380 Guys, welcome back.

00:05:16.480 I actually haven't even gotten to speak to you about the tour, about Charlie, about anything.

00:05:22.240 Do you plan on going still on the tour?

00:05:25.640 Did you guys have any hesitation?

00:05:27.060 Was that a discussion?

00:05:27.940 Not a second.

00:05:28.800 Not a second.

00:05:29.600 Zero.

00:05:30.320 Yeah, we'll absolutely be there.

00:05:32.080 Yeah, you can just put us around you in chairs.

00:05:34.540 It'll be fine.

00:05:35.920 We are there.

00:05:36.960 We have Defend Megan t-shirts on.

00:05:39.040 You guys are awesome.

00:05:40.660 I'm so glad to hear that.

00:05:41.860 Thank you so much.

00:05:43.120 We haven't had anybody try to cancel on us so far.

00:05:45.540 Like, it's amazing, all of our guests.

00:05:47.840 And as I was reading your names, you know, it's like, I thought of Charlie, because it's

00:05:51.840 like, he came on the show almost as frequently as you guys did, and our relationship goes back

00:05:57.500 further, but he was here almost as often as you guys are.

00:06:01.380 And I, you know, it's like, I feel the way about his loss the way I'd feel if, God forbid,

00:06:05.960 something happened to one of you.

00:06:07.340 It's like, we don't hang out a lot.

00:06:09.100 We don't go for dinners a lot, but we know each other.

00:06:11.400 We've spent hours and hours.

00:06:12.740 I can't think of a lot of friends I have spent this much time with.

00:06:16.840 You know, if you look at the number of times you've come on, let's just take the last six

00:06:20.300 months, you know, like, we spent election together, the election night, all of it.

00:06:24.520 These relationships you form with the people who you interview and spend time with in this

00:06:28.780 space, they're real.

00:06:29.940 They're actually really meaningful.

00:06:31.520 And I'm still so just upset about Charlie and just reading all the leftist freak outs

00:06:37.560 about him.

00:06:38.680 I love National Review.

00:06:41.320 You know, they have a little TDS over there, but it's fine.

00:06:43.400 I love them.

00:06:44.440 And Jeff Blahar wrote a great piece.

00:06:47.900 He predicted this.

00:06:49.040 Okay.

00:06:49.140 Listen to this.

00:06:50.540 He wrote this earlier before the Charlie assassination.

00:06:55.480 It was after poor Irina was murdered on the train.

00:06:59.840 And he wrote this.

00:07:00.860 I fear we're on the verge of a great societal breakdown, one right out of the late sixties

00:07:04.980 and early seventies, and we are not prepared for it.

00:07:08.200 Something wicked this way comes.

00:07:10.240 The atrocity in Minneapolis is but one articulated edge in a far larger fractal pattern of violence

00:07:17.180 and madness creeping across our landscape.

00:07:19.760 Once the progress was imperceptibly slow, but technology has proven to be the accelerant.

00:07:24.760 The threat is pre-political, generational, and perhaps even civilizational.

00:07:28.480 The worst are full of passionate intensity.

00:07:31.560 Things are falling apart, crumbling at both the margins and the center of our societal self-conception.

00:07:37.700 What comes next?

00:07:39.000 I suppose we'll find out.

00:07:41.360 My God.

00:07:42.280 So he writes this and then he writes the following, which I want to kick it off with you guys on.

00:07:49.860 I want to express my burning contempt for the social media charade that I and every other

00:07:55.700 conservative just had to endure.

00:07:57.640 The experience of watching Charlie murdered and then watching vast numbers of propagandists

00:08:02.820 and people who know better tell us the Kirk was actually shot from a far right,

00:08:07.120 Groiper or a Nick Fuentes fan or a MAGA true believer, anyone but a person associated with

00:08:14.180 a left-coated cause, which Occam's razor already suggested was the likely reality.

00:08:19.900 As each new detail trickled out and the killer's transgender associations became clearer and clearer, 0.95

00:08:25.420 the hysterical spin and assertions of blunt unreality mounted.

00:08:29.300 Cynical pros began inserting outright lies into the mix as partisans took up their work

00:08:37.300 and used it in desperate craven attempts to either spin facts in ridiculous ways,

00:08:42.440 his parents are Republicans, or simply pretend the facts weren't facts at all.

00:08:47.460 All of it was done with the intent of trying to will into existence through the spread of fear,

00:08:52.480 uncertainty and doubt, an alternate narrative whose intended moral calculus amounted to,

00:08:57.360 in so many words, Charlie Kirk was killed by his own team and this is actually your fault.

00:09:03.860 So no, I'm not about to move on just yet.

00:09:08.580 Totally agree with and endorse every word of that.

00:09:11.920 The gaslighting that we have been subjected to over the past five or six days is infuriating

00:09:19.340 and it's like even more so, it's like unsettling.

00:09:22.280 It's actually kind of deeply unsettling.

00:09:23.920 Your thoughts?

00:09:24.340 Before we even get started, Megan, I just want to say on behalf of the boys,

00:09:30.120 since they're going to elbow me in the throat before all of that,

00:09:33.100 we watched you as you were struggling with this on air

00:09:37.320 and just kudos for you for elbowing your way through it.

00:09:41.700 I know how I only begin to imagine how rough that is.

00:09:44.900 And then also for you doing what Ben Shapiro did,

00:09:47.340 Ben, who's not a big F-bomb dropper,

00:09:49.620 but his response to this, like yours, is the correct one.

00:09:53.720 I am going to go in public and speak.

00:09:56.300 And we are very, very happy to go with you,

00:09:59.360 not because we always agree with you,

00:10:02.040 but precisely because we always don't.

00:10:04.600 Right, right, right.

00:10:05.600 Kind of the point.

00:10:07.340 Which is something that Charlie Kirk exuded in his bones.

00:10:10.540 So that's the throw clear.

00:10:12.680 Thank you for all of that.

00:10:13.660 Thank you, Matt.

00:10:14.700 It's terrifying to watch how many people have talked themselves

00:10:19.160 into an entire narrative.

00:10:21.280 Heather Cox Richardson, I think the most popular substacker.

00:10:24.200 Yeah.

00:10:24.540 Out there, incredibly successful, an academic of some sort.

00:10:28.000 Just sort of out there stating as kind of fact now,

00:10:32.040 that I guess they're saying he's a left groiper.

00:10:34.280 It's a new category.

00:10:35.740 That I'm unaware of.

00:10:37.040 So, uh, and there's, there's a whole category.

00:10:40.940 Groepers, just, just for the audience,

00:10:41.980 I know, groepers is a term that is generally used

00:10:44.080 to describe these Nick Fuentes fans.

00:10:45.940 Nick Fuentes, who is sort of described

00:10:48.280 as the, one of the OG modern day online white supremacists.

00:10:53.420 And, uh, I don't, it's got some whole lineage

00:10:55.960 with these like frogs, Pepe the Frog, whatever.

00:10:58.240 In any event, it's, it's a, it's a,

00:11:00.280 like a white supremacist who follows Nick Fuentes, a groiper. 0.99

00:11:03.680 Yes. Uh, so there, there are people

00:11:07.080 who are going to talk themselves up into that.

00:11:09.420 And there's even some, uh, preliminary survey data

00:11:11.880 that, um, that, that is going to be an epistemic bubble

00:11:15.380 that's not getting popped.

00:11:16.400 There's going to be people like, yeah, yeah,

00:11:17.800 he was definitely, definitely on the right.

00:11:20.100 Um, the, the same wisdom applies

00:11:22.960 to absolutely every, uh, tragedy, uh, uh, violent,

00:11:27.100 act of violence, especially if it's politicized,

00:11:28.940 it's okay to wait a beat.

00:11:30.540 It's okay not to state with a thousand percent certainty X.

00:11:34.840 Um, but please don't state with a thousand percent certainty

00:11:39.380 the opposite, uh, of X.

00:11:41.940 And it is revealing, uh, to see who is doing that right now.

00:11:45.320 Um, don't have to do that.

00:11:46.500 Uh, we, we can demand better of ourselves

00:11:48.720 and of the people that we,

00:11:50.580 and the institutions that we consume with in media.

00:11:53.600 Yeah. I just, um, second what Matt said,

00:11:56.760 and also to, uh, say kudos to our, our friend

00:12:00.160 and friend of all three of ours, uh, Jeff Blair

00:12:02.280 from National Review for a great piece

00:12:04.200 that I hadn't read.

00:12:04.840 So thanks, um, for reading that.

00:12:07.140 I mean, there's been, uh, I don't even know

00:12:09.680 how to begin this cause I've, you know,

00:12:12.040 my brain hasn't stopped worrying and whirling

00:12:15.340 since it happened.

00:12:16.620 And, um, you know, in, in, in seeing you,

00:12:19.780 Megan do that in real time and pivot, uh, very quickly. 1.00

00:12:23.080 Um, it's not a podcast, people.

00:12:25.100 This is a podcast.

00:12:25.840 We release things.

00:12:26.960 It's just an hour here and there.

00:12:28.240 I mean, reacting to the news in that way

00:12:29.580 was, I think, pretty helpful to a lot of people.

00:12:32.180 It certainly was for me.

00:12:33.360 But one of the things that's really interesting

00:12:35.360 about this that nobody really has pointed out

00:12:37.780 is that this is actually a new thing.

00:12:40.560 Why is this different than all of the other examples

00:12:43.880 people talk about?

00:12:44.940 You know, Minneapolis keeps coming up

00:12:46.480 in this political point scoring.

00:12:48.860 Um, it's never okay to do, you know,

00:12:52.660 acts of violence towards politicians.

00:12:54.480 That's should be obvious, but it is kind of interesting

00:12:57.180 that this is the only one I can think of, um,

00:12:59.720 of an act of violence against a pundit.

00:13:02.000 That doesn't happen very much.

00:13:03.660 It's very, very unique.

00:13:04.880 I can think of one that we were doing

00:13:07.160 an episode of the fifth column with our listeners

00:13:08.940 talking to them on zoom.

00:13:10.320 And I thought of Alan Berg,

00:13:11.820 who's probably totally forgotten about by people

00:13:14.100 who was a talk radio host in Colorado.

00:13:17.220 I think who was killed by neo-Nazis.

00:13:19.280 He was Jewish and that was enough. 1.00

00:13:22.000 And they, and he had attacked these Nazis 0.69

00:13:23.440 and they killed him.

00:13:24.280 But that was, um, the only one I could really think of.

00:13:28.040 And I think that was actually specific too,

00:13:29.820 about him attacking a specific person,

00:13:32.180 specific people responding.

00:13:33.940 Whereas this was, you know, somebody who had ideas.

00:13:36.800 And at the end of this conversation,

00:13:39.160 at the end of all of these conversations,

00:13:40.800 when you have these, well,

00:13:43.280 what was on the casings, the bullet casings?

00:13:46.120 What did they mean?

00:13:47.560 What did he say?

00:13:48.540 What was the, what did he say to his friends?

00:13:50.820 All of this stuff,

00:13:52.020 which is trying to divine the, um,

00:13:55.740 politics of this psychotic shooter.

00:13:58.460 It seemed pretty obvious to me

00:13:59.640 because he killed Charlie Kirk,

00:14:02.000 what his politics were.

00:14:03.860 Back to the Occam's razor.

00:14:05.560 That's the Occam's razor.

00:14:06.660 He killed Charlie Kirk.

00:14:07.900 He did not, he did not take a shot at, um,

00:14:10.680 you know, some sort of left-wing pundit

00:14:13.260 or left-wing politician.

00:14:14.360 And at the end of the day,

00:14:16.660 every conversation should start

00:14:18.600 and begin with one sentence.

00:14:21.160 Um, he was killed for what he believed.

00:14:23.320 He was killed for what he said.

00:14:25.860 Full stop.

00:14:27.660 Why are you saying,

00:14:28.680 and I keep on having these conversations,

00:14:30.000 you know, Camille, Matt,

00:14:30.780 and I had this conversation

00:14:31.460 where he immediately reacted to it

00:14:32.800 the day that it happened

00:14:34.600 is that I'm increasingly getting uncomfortable

00:14:38.120 with the throat clearing.

00:14:39.940 The, the, the sort of,

00:14:40.920 you have to do this throat clearing

00:14:42.200 if you're not a conservative

00:14:43.800 and say, well,

00:14:44.820 I didn't agree with everything

00:14:46.300 that he said.

00:14:48.180 Well, hold on a second.

00:14:49.540 Why does one say that?

00:14:50.800 I get the instinct

00:14:51.900 because you just want to,

00:14:52.700 you know, I'm,

00:14:53.380 I'm not this guy,

00:14:54.760 but what is built into saying

00:14:56.620 something like that

00:14:57.540 is that, you know,

00:14:58.800 I didn't agree with these

00:15:00.360 horrible things that he said,

00:15:02.800 but, you know,

00:15:03.520 you shouldn't kill him.

00:15:05.300 I mean,

00:15:05.700 that kind of sentence,

00:15:07.120 which presumes that there are certain,

00:15:08.900 I guess, you know,

00:15:09.660 certain language that you can use

00:15:12.240 where it's justified.

00:15:13.220 I don't know what motivates people

00:15:14.900 to say that,

00:15:16.000 but I don't care.

00:15:17.040 It should be,

00:15:17.940 you know, look,

00:15:18.580 Ezra Klein,

00:15:19.540 liberal columnist

00:15:20.520 for the New York Times,

00:15:22.180 who I think,

00:15:23.280 particularly Matt and I,

00:15:24.260 have had a fun time

00:15:26.120 making fun of for many,

00:15:27.200 many years.

00:15:28.220 Matt profiled him

00:15:29.240 for the Columbia Journalism Review,

00:15:30.520 and it was a bit of a tough profile,

00:15:32.060 but we've made fun of him

00:15:32.980 for a long time

00:15:33.720 for a variety of reasons.

00:15:34.940 But he came out

00:15:35.760 and wrote a piece

00:15:36.840 and said, you know,

00:15:37.340 this is what we should be doing.

00:15:38.980 This is how we argue.

00:15:40.380 I think the sickness

00:15:41.480 of the political culture,

00:15:42.680 which is demonstrated

00:15:44.060 in the assassination

00:15:45.100 of a pundit,

00:15:46.280 is also,

00:15:47.040 there's a second wave

00:15:48.260 of seeing the sickness

00:15:49.180 of this culture

00:15:49.740 as the reaction to it,

00:15:50.660 of course.

00:15:51.320 But it was the reaction

00:15:52.020 for mainstream people

00:15:53.140 getting mad at Ezra Klein

00:15:54.500 for having that measure of grace

00:15:56.480 and saying,

00:15:57.460 you know what,

00:15:57.840 the guy tried to engage people.

00:16:00.340 You might not like what he said,

00:16:01.600 and you might not like

00:16:02.500 what he thought,

00:16:03.720 but, you know,

00:16:04.380 this archaeology,

00:16:06.100 the offense archaeology,

00:16:07.520 what did Charlie Kirk say?

00:16:09.300 What did he say,

00:16:10.420 you know,

00:16:10.720 10 years ago?

00:16:11.900 Which, by the way,

00:16:12.700 one more thing,

00:16:13.560 I'm sorry to drone on about this,

00:16:15.020 but it's all very upsetting to me,

00:16:17.740 is that when you go

00:16:19.060 in these archaeological expeditions

00:16:21.100 to try to find bad things

00:16:22.480 that Charlie Kirk said

00:16:23.480 in the past,

00:16:24.560 I mean,

00:16:24.860 we do,

00:16:25.300 I mean,

00:16:25.560 you wouldn't take long

00:16:27.100 for people to find stuff

00:16:28.120 that I've said.

00:16:29.060 We do this for a living

00:16:29.940 or on the air all the time,

00:16:31.660 but it doesn't allow

00:16:33.320 for growth.

00:16:34.380 Because Charlie Kirk

00:16:35.260 has been doing this

00:16:35.980 since he was 17 or 18 years old.

00:16:37.780 I have wildly different views

00:16:39.740 than I had

00:16:40.200 when I was 17 or 18 years old.

00:16:42.240 And I think he probably did too,

00:16:44.000 not wildly so,

00:16:45.380 but you're going back

00:16:46.380 and trying to punish a man 1.00

00:16:47.680 in death

00:16:48.500 who was assassinated

00:16:50.080 and trying to find

00:16:51.540 these aberrant thoughts

00:16:53.100 that he had

00:16:53.680 when he was 18 or 19.

00:16:55.420 Guess what, guys?

00:16:56.340 That's when you're allowed

00:16:57.240 to have those aberrant thoughts.

00:16:58.320 You should always be allowed

00:16:59.480 to have them,

00:16:59.920 but that's when

00:17:00.640 you have things,

00:17:01.600 you're working things

00:17:02.360 out in your head

00:17:02.940 and now

00:17:03.520 you've been gunned down

00:17:05.020 in front of your family,

00:17:06.480 kids left fatherless.

00:17:08.340 And these vultures

00:17:10.380 are out there

00:17:11.500 trying to find the things

00:17:12.520 that you said

00:17:13.000 that were wrong.

00:17:13.840 And by the way,

00:17:14.360 and then misquoting you

00:17:15.740 in doing so,

00:17:16.800 it's a disgrace.

00:17:18.040 It's a disgrace.

00:17:18.700 I totally agree

00:17:19.840 with every word you just said.

00:17:20.920 I want to give a shout out too

00:17:22.320 because,

00:17:23.160 you know,

00:17:23.360 in our business,

00:17:23.880 we're always giving each other jazz

00:17:25.500 and people who are

00:17:26.640 on the opposite side

00:17:27.620 so much more so.

00:17:28.860 But I always have been

00:17:30.820 of the belief

00:17:31.660 that with the exception

00:17:32.780 of maybe 2% of the people

00:17:34.260 who come under

00:17:35.260 my own withering criticism,

00:17:37.520 I could go have a beer

00:17:38.720 with 98% of them.

00:17:39.900 I really could without,

00:17:41.000 I could check the politics

00:17:42.240 to the side

00:17:42.840 and I could have a beer

00:17:43.820 with them

00:17:44.120 and we could talk about things

00:17:45.060 that we do agree on,

00:17:46.480 you know,

00:17:46.780 whatever it is.

00:17:48.000 Sports is tough for me,

00:17:49.120 but I could make a showing of it

00:17:50.920 if it were important

00:17:51.660 to the other person.

00:17:52.980 Whatever.

00:17:53.520 There's a lot of stuff

00:17:54.220 beyond politics.

00:17:54.940 And even within politics,

00:17:56.060 there are a lot of safe zones.

00:17:57.320 I mean,

00:17:57.500 there are people

00:17:57.900 we can all agree are terrible.

00:17:59.200 Eric Swalwell.

00:17:59.980 Nobody likes him.

00:18:01.200 It's easy.

00:18:02.100 You know,

00:18:02.300 we go there.

00:18:02.940 No beer for you, Eric.

00:18:03.980 But we don't want any harm

00:18:04.920 to come to him.

00:18:05.640 No, no.

00:18:06.060 We just don't want any harm.

00:18:07.540 It'd be easy

00:18:08.280 to just find someone

00:18:09.340 we can all agree on.

00:18:10.900 Yes.

00:18:11.260 And I wanted to just

00:18:12.800 give a shout out.

00:18:14.020 I hope he'll forgive me

00:18:15.140 because he didn't,

00:18:15.780 like,

00:18:16.360 he didn't say it was off the record

00:18:17.340 and he didn't ask me

00:18:18.100 not to say anything.

00:18:19.180 But Tommy Vieter

00:18:20.400 of the Pod Save America guys

00:18:22.080 sent me one of the nicest notes

00:18:24.020 I've received.

00:18:25.260 And it was all about

00:18:26.480 how sad he was over Charlie

00:18:28.740 and how,

00:18:30.440 you know,

00:18:31.040 he's been reflecting

00:18:31.660 on his own life

00:18:32.540 and his own dialogue

00:18:33.700 on his show

00:18:34.540 and just how meaningful

00:18:35.980 what Charlie built was

00:18:37.140 to him from afar.

00:18:38.300 And he did not say

00:18:39.620 any of the throat clearing

00:18:41.640 at all.

00:18:42.100 Like,

00:18:42.440 I didn't agree with him.

00:18:43.420 Not a word of that.

00:18:44.740 Just I respected

00:18:45.560 what he built.

00:18:46.300 A man with a family

00:18:47.260 and Tommy has one too.

00:18:48.780 And now he's officially

00:18:50.000 my favorite Pod Save America guy.

00:18:51.540 But it is important

00:18:54.540 to call out,

00:18:55.200 like,

00:18:55.280 not all leftists

00:18:57.020 are insane

00:18:58.180 and have lost their minds,

00:19:00.340 you know,

00:19:00.640 but far too many have.

00:19:02.080 And far too many civilians

00:19:03.280 in powerful positions

00:19:04.440 like those

00:19:05.380 who are flying our planes

00:19:07.400 and operating

00:19:08.500 in our hospitals

00:19:09.720 have shown

00:19:10.940 the mania,

00:19:12.640 you know,

00:19:12.860 the mania

00:19:13.600 of enjoying

00:19:15.260 his death

00:19:16.500 and really wanting

00:19:17.640 to celebrate in it.

00:19:18.640 Your thoughts on it all,

00:19:19.380 Camille?

00:19:20.260 Well,

00:19:20.640 I think one of,

00:19:21.500 what you just said there

00:19:22.560 reminds me of something,

00:19:24.580 like,

00:19:24.860 one of the major defects

00:19:26.480 of the kind of

00:19:27.820 social justice

00:19:28.840 epoch

00:19:30.120 of the past

00:19:31.480 like five or six years

00:19:32.760 is the

00:19:34.340 magnification

00:19:35.680 of any imagined defect

00:19:37.980 in the people

00:19:38.980 that you most disagree with.

00:19:40.260 So America

00:19:41.100 just becomes

00:19:42.340 utterly white supremacist,

00:19:44.220 clearly irredeemable.

00:19:45.560 Everything about it

00:19:46.380 must be foregrounded

00:19:47.760 by acknowledging

00:19:49.160 in the strongest

00:19:50.080 possible terms

00:19:51.100 the worst,

00:19:51.840 its worst imaginable failures

00:19:53.780 and in many cases

00:19:55.040 just totally

00:19:55.800 imagined failures.

00:19:57.480 And unfortunately,

00:19:59.920 much of the country

00:20:01.100 has permitted itself

00:20:02.120 to be kind of

00:20:02.760 led around

00:20:03.280 by the nose

00:20:04.140 by the worst

00:20:05.500 malefactors

00:20:06.400 in our politics.

00:20:07.240 People who

00:20:08.100 have fringe ideas

00:20:10.060 who say

00:20:11.180 fringe things

00:20:12.080 at times

00:20:12.760 some of those

00:20:13.400 fringe things

00:20:14.200 because they've been

00:20:15.260 allowed to be

00:20:15.980 led around by the nose

00:20:16.740 by these people

00:20:17.660 have just kind of

00:20:18.720 risen

00:20:19.160 like

00:20:19.880 to the very top

00:20:21.560 and suddenly

00:20:22.560 it becomes

00:20:23.500 impolitic

00:20:24.320 to criticize people

00:20:25.220 for say

00:20:25.600 burning down buildings

00:20:26.760 or

00:20:27.940 punching Nazis

00:20:29.180 in the face

00:20:29.820 or whatever

00:20:30.240 you prefer.

00:20:31.900 I mean,

00:20:32.040 you can find

00:20:32.540 so many examples

00:20:33.400 of this

00:20:33.860 and this just became

00:20:35.200 part of our politics

00:20:36.520 and I think

00:20:38.100 many people

00:20:39.160 who in other

00:20:40.580 contexts

00:20:41.200 would have

00:20:41.800 shuddered at the

00:20:42.860 thought of endorsing

00:20:43.840 those sentiments

00:20:44.560 perhaps became

00:20:45.760 a little bit more

00:20:46.320 familiar with it.

00:20:47.580 But there's this

00:20:48.440 quote which I believe

00:20:49.460 is Nietzsche

00:20:49.940 and here we are

00:20:51.020 like 10 minutes in

00:20:51.940 and I'm going to try

00:20:52.600 to go deep

00:20:53.700 philosophical here

00:20:54.540 but it's not that

00:20:55.280 that profound.

00:20:56.520 We need it.

00:20:57.060 That you're

00:20:57.420 when you're fighting

00:20:58.300 monsters

00:20:58.860 like the thing

00:20:59.540 you have to be

00:21:00.080 careful of

00:21:00.680 is that you don't

00:21:01.440 become the monster

00:21:02.180 and I think

00:21:03.660 one of the concerns

00:21:04.460 that I've had

00:21:05.240 very recently

00:21:06.140 and not just recently

00:21:07.260 that's true

00:21:08.320 of kind of

00:21:09.400 my critique

00:21:09.840 of the left

00:21:10.360 is that

00:21:11.200 in analyzing

00:21:12.800 the fringe

00:21:14.740 characters

00:21:15.280 and there are

00:21:16.420 too many people

00:21:17.200 in this country

00:21:17.780 who endorse

00:21:18.400 really disgusting

00:21:19.720 views

00:21:20.140 who are celebrating

00:21:20.920 the death

00:21:21.420 of someone

00:21:21.740 they disagree with

00:21:22.600 or believe

00:21:23.160 it's even appropriate

00:21:23.860 to utilize violence

00:21:25.160 in contexts like this

00:21:26.700 that we aren't

00:21:30.360 insisting

00:21:32.280 that there are

00:21:32.780 that these people

00:21:34.160 are representative

00:21:35.120 of the broader

00:21:36.700 opinion on the left

00:21:37.900 it is the case

00:21:38.940 that well over

00:21:39.860 80% of Democrats

00:21:41.280 disagree with this stuff

00:21:42.580 based on this

00:21:43.080 YouGov poll

00:21:43.700 that I know

00:21:44.120 a number of people

00:21:44.640 have been citing

00:21:45.140 recently

00:21:45.640 and that 80%

00:21:46.980 is

00:21:48.020 I wish it were higher

00:21:49.300 and based on the polling

00:21:51.540 it is higher

00:21:52.540 amongst Republicans

00:21:53.560 you know we need

00:21:54.620 though Camille

00:21:55.000 we need that 80%

00:21:56.280 to call out the 20% 1.00

00:21:57.560 we do need that

00:21:59.140 we do need that

00:22:00.000 without a doubt

00:22:00.880 and I think there

00:22:01.480 just needs to be

00:22:01.960 a broad recognition

00:22:02.820 across the political

00:22:03.900 spectrum that this

00:22:04.580 is an issue

00:22:05.120 full stop

00:22:05.880 and I do think

00:22:06.920 that the left

00:22:07.660 has historically

00:22:08.540 and I believe

00:22:08.960 I've said it on this

00:22:09.560 program and I've said

00:22:10.260 it in another context

00:22:10.940 as well

00:22:11.400 had a very difficult

00:22:12.460 time acknowledging

00:22:13.620 the fact that

00:22:14.260 they have extremists

00:22:15.540 who endorse

00:22:16.460 really dangerous

00:22:17.380 things on their

00:22:18.920 side as well

00:22:20.240 they've spent

00:22:20.760 so many years

00:22:21.740 I'm sure you guys

00:22:22.400 remember all of

00:22:23.520 these studies

00:22:24.060 that were being

00:22:24.720 trotted out

00:22:25.360 in maybe 10 years

00:22:27.360 ago

00:22:27.680 where they're like

00:22:28.380 oh now we know

00:22:29.220 why conservatives

00:22:29.940 trend fascist

00:22:30.780 it's because

00:22:31.180 of some weird

00:22:31.760 defect that we

00:22:32.560 could see

00:22:33.000 in all of these

00:22:33.620 studies

00:22:34.000 the data

00:22:34.440 proves that

00:22:35.500 these people

00:22:36.140 are just

00:22:36.680 congenitally

00:22:37.320 fascist

00:22:38.020 that was

00:22:39.360 despicable

00:22:39.980 it was wrong

00:22:41.300 and it was also

00:22:42.700 a mistake

00:22:43.380 to try to

00:22:44.320 correct

00:22:44.720 overcorrect

00:22:45.500 in the other

00:22:45.920 direction

00:22:46.340 and I just

00:22:47.040 I want us

00:22:47.940 to be locked

00:22:48.580 into the fact

00:22:49.200 that as bad

00:22:49.860 as things

00:22:50.340 have felt

00:22:50.880 and I've felt

00:22:51.420 pretty awful

00:22:51.960 even listening

00:22:52.620 to you all

00:22:53.220 talk at the

00:22:54.200 beginning of this

00:22:54.800 I kept thinking

00:22:55.440 to myself

00:22:55.900 I'm not sure

00:22:56.380 I'm ready

00:22:56.660 to do this

00:22:57.180 again yet

00:22:57.680 I've been able

00:22:59.600 to hold it

00:23:00.160 together in most

00:23:01.000 of these appearances

00:23:01.700 but I'm definitely

00:23:03.220 not quite myself

00:23:04.180 like this

00:23:04.720 this feels

00:23:05.560 profoundly different

00:23:06.820 it makes me feel

00:23:07.680 deeply uncomfortable

00:23:08.560 I can't stop

00:23:09.540 thinking about

00:23:10.440 Charlie and his

00:23:11.240 kids

00:23:11.600 and I keep

00:23:12.600 having this

00:23:13.220 this impulse

00:23:13.940 to reach out

00:23:14.460 to even people

00:23:15.080 who I've had

00:23:15.600 kind of public

00:23:16.300 disagreements with

00:23:17.220 to try to mend

00:23:18.340 bridges

00:23:18.820 and if that's

00:23:20.320 what comes out

00:23:20.800 of this

00:23:21.060 then that's good

00:23:21.740 and I think

00:23:22.340 the only way

00:23:22.820 we get to that

00:23:23.580 coming out of this

00:23:24.420 is to acknowledge

00:23:25.600 clearly

00:23:26.060 most of us

00:23:27.280 are totally sane

00:23:28.480 most of us

00:23:29.560 hate seeing

00:23:30.420 what's happening

00:23:31.040 to this country

00:23:31.760 and even while

00:23:32.700 we disagree

00:23:33.240 vehemently

00:23:33.980 on so many issues

00:23:35.360 like we always have

00:23:36.880 and we found a way

00:23:38.080 to work together

00:23:38.860 productively

00:23:39.480 and that has to be

00:23:40.740 what comes out of this

00:23:41.620 not a kind of

00:23:43.080 campaign of reprisals

00:23:44.340 or recriminations

00:23:45.220 yes find everyone

00:23:46.840 who is advocating

00:23:47.660 for and actively

00:23:49.060 plotting

00:23:49.600 violence

00:23:50.720 and do something

00:23:51.720 about that

00:23:52.340 call it out

00:23:53.100 in the first case

00:23:54.140 and in the latter case

00:23:54.960 find them

00:23:55.760 and prosecute them

00:23:56.820 but let's also

00:23:59.000 focus on

00:24:00.040 like trying to

00:24:00.720 build bridges

00:24:01.220 and find partnership

00:24:02.500 with the broad

00:24:03.980 universe of people

00:24:05.000 who hate

00:24:06.180 political violence

00:24:07.500 who hate

00:24:08.300 the acrimony

00:24:09.260 that has become

00:24:09.860 so common

00:24:10.440 in our politics

00:24:10.920 we can and should

00:24:12.220 do better

00:24:12.720 that's an important

00:24:13.920 tale on there

00:24:14.740 because it's like

00:24:15.420 we are not going

00:24:16.580 to build bridges

00:24:17.140 to any of these loons

00:24:18.240 who are out there

00:24:18.960 celebrating Charlie's

00:24:19.860 murder at all

00:24:20.640 they're not reachable

00:24:21.480 we have no desire

00:24:22.180 to be around them

00:24:22.880 they're dangerous

00:24:23.480 people

00:24:23.940 there's no dialogue

00:24:25.380 there

00:24:25.680 there's only defeating

00:24:26.560 but there is a section

00:24:29.080 of the left

00:24:29.800 that hates what

00:24:31.120 happened to Charlie

00:24:31.880 and that doesn't do

00:24:32.800 the throat clearing

00:24:33.520 and that is still

00:24:34.540 rational

00:24:34.960 it's just we haven't

00:24:35.960 they have not been

00:24:36.660 the dominant voice

00:24:37.500 over the past week

00:24:38.440 at all

00:24:39.460 which has been

00:24:40.260 really rattling

00:24:41.020 I think to many of us

00:24:42.880 on team sanity

00:24:44.120 it's like

00:24:44.700 I certainly expected

00:24:46.560 the universal condemnation

00:24:48.400 without any qualifiers

00:24:49.760 to be a lot wider

00:24:51.520 and to be the dominant message

00:24:54.080 even I expected that

00:24:55.680 and I've been

00:24:56.680 just disgusted

00:24:57.980 with the mainstream message

00:25:00.980 it feels like the mainstream message

00:25:02.300 from most corners

00:25:03.060 which starts with

00:25:04.520 we may never know the motives

00:25:07.660 honestly

00:25:09.020 it's that is so infuriating

00:25:10.700 go fuck yourself

00:25:11.700 we clearly know the motives

00:25:12.960 he wrote them on the bullets

00:25:15.060 how much closer

00:25:16.440 are we going to get

00:25:17.420 you know

00:25:18.100 you've got the Utah governor

00:25:19.160 saying explicitly

00:25:19.960 that he'd been

00:25:20.640 he'd gone radically left

00:25:22.140 we've got the family

00:25:23.340 saying he'd gone radically left

00:25:24.780 we have the family

00:25:25.760 saying he

00:25:26.520 hated Charlie Kirk

00:25:28.100 we have

00:25:28.980 the FBI saying

00:25:30.500 that he said

00:25:31.400 he hated Charlie

00:25:32.140 that Charlie was coming to town

00:25:33.200 and that he planned to kill him

00:25:34.280 we've got the fact

00:25:35.780 that he put

00:25:36.440 weird furry

00:25:37.620 writings

00:25:38.620 on the bullet casing

00:25:39.680 that actually shot Charlie

00:25:41.320 he shot Charlie

00:25:42.560 when he was discussing

00:25:43.420 trans shootings 1.00

00:25:44.500 he waited until that moment

00:25:46.000 of the debate

00:25:46.920 he was dating

00:25:48.000 and living with

00:25:49.040 a trans male to female person

00:25:50.920 who was also a furry

00:25:52.280 the transgender community

00:25:54.480 some of whom were following

00:25:56.120 that boyfriend

00:25:57.260 were predicting the murder

00:25:59.220 and then celebrate

00:26:00.200 I mean like

00:26:00.600 look you don't have to be Columbo

00:26:03.160 to put two and two together here

00:26:05.280 and so it's just

00:26:06.980 the denial of reality

00:26:08.640 is very unsettling

00:26:10.040 it's like

00:26:10.680 you can go with

00:26:13.080 the vast majority

00:26:15.940 of trans people

00:26:16.700 don't murder

00:26:17.500 you can go with

00:26:18.800 the vast majority

00:26:19.580 of radicalized

00:26:20.960 online

00:26:21.680 22 year old men

00:26:22.940 who spend all their time

00:26:23.940 gaming

00:26:24.320 don't murder

00:26:25.220 you know

00:26:25.800 you could take it

00:26:26.660 any one of those places

00:26:27.500 and we can have that debate

00:26:28.760 but you cannot go with

00:26:30.320 these motives are irrelevant

00:26:32.100 and they're lies 0.65

00:26:33.000 and really he's just

00:26:33.740 a Republican

00:26:34.360 Mormon

00:26:35.040 gun loving

00:26:35.840 you know

00:26:36.760 well Christian

00:26:37.740 is what they're saying

00:26:38.460 I just

00:26:39.660 that is too

00:26:41.100 destabilizing

00:26:42.300 you know

00:26:43.100 there's truth

00:26:44.340 there's reality

00:26:45.300 and I will say this too

00:26:47.140 I've been very

00:26:48.340 very conscious

00:26:49.300 since the moment

00:26:50.100 of Charlie's death

00:26:51.260 not to just revert

00:26:52.920 to my own priors

00:26:54.120 which is what I think

00:26:55.440 most people are doing

00:26:56.640 right now

00:26:57.160 yes

00:26:58.060 as soon as I saw him shot

00:26:59.400 especially when we heard

00:27:00.260 the question that

00:27:00.940 he was answering

00:27:01.960 the first thing

00:27:03.020 I thought was

00:27:03.760 it's a trans activist

00:27:04.660 of some sort

00:27:05.260 it's somebody

00:27:05.880 acting in some way

00:27:07.880 on behalf of

00:27:08.420 the trans community

00:27:09.540 and to be honest

00:27:11.240 with you

00:27:11.480 I still think

00:27:12.020 that's true

00:27:12.460 I believe

00:27:13.700 based on this evidence

00:27:14.480 that's pretty clear

00:27:15.200 but

00:27:16.100 I've seen

00:27:17.380 everybody I know

00:27:18.140 go to their priors

00:27:18.980 you know

00:27:19.380 like

00:27:19.680 you know

00:27:20.360 they're

00:27:20.800 like I've seen

00:27:22.660 whatever

00:27:23.140 I've heard Tucker

00:27:24.300 and I've heard Candace

00:27:25.100 and we'll talk a little bit

00:27:25.900 about what Candace

00:27:26.580 is saying today

00:27:27.160 go to like

00:27:28.380 is there any sort of

00:27:29.800 state

00:27:30.360 possibly Israeli involvement

00:27:32.360 Tucker didn't say

00:27:32.980 that explicitly

00:27:33.480 but you know

00:27:34.200 you can see

00:27:34.940 he might be

00:27:35.460 kicking it around

00:27:36.200 and she's saying it

00:27:37.400 a little bit closer

00:27:38.320 to explicitly

00:27:39.080 you see people

00:27:40.520 who are just more

00:27:41.100 conspiratorial

00:27:41.780 in their thinking

00:27:42.340 and that's fine

00:27:43.020 honestly we've talked

00:27:43.680 about this many times

00:27:44.380 they've gone to like

00:27:46.140 the massive conspiracy

00:27:47.020 you know

00:27:47.300 like our own government

00:27:48.560 did it

00:27:49.000 our own government

00:27:49.820 somehow wanted

00:27:50.400 to get Charlie

00:27:51.020 and that's online

00:27:52.780 in certain corners

00:27:53.780 and that his own security

00:27:55.380 shot him

00:27:56.780 and the video slowed down

00:27:58.280 to show you how his own

00:27:59.040 security guard was in on it

00:28:00.160 shooting him from

00:28:00.680 the other side

00:28:01.540 somehow the magic bullet

00:28:02.860 made it through

00:28:03.520 and around

00:28:04.040 and to the left

00:28:04.780 even though the guy

00:28:05.300 was on the right

00:28:05.900 all this stuff

00:28:07.060 so I think most of

00:28:09.060 what we're seeing right now

00:28:09.800 in the news

00:28:10.200 is people going

00:28:10.920 to their own priors

00:28:11.620 the left is like

00:28:12.420 the right are fascists

00:28:13.760 they're the evil ones

00:28:15.200 and so they're the ones

00:28:16.340 who pick up guns

00:28:16.940 and shoot people 0.75

00:28:17.620 and our people

00:28:18.220 are peaceful

00:28:18.960 which is a lie

00:28:19.760 and you know

00:28:21.860 somebody like me

00:28:22.480 who's been very active

00:28:23.200 in what's happening

00:28:24.820 in the trans community

00:28:25.480 is deeply wrong

00:28:26.180 kind of goes there first

00:28:27.780 saying I suspect them

00:28:29.520 and so on

00:28:30.340 so we all have to

00:28:31.540 check our own biases

00:28:32.480 and stay fact-based

00:28:34.860 fact-based

00:28:35.900 no matter where

00:28:37.220 the facts lead us

00:28:38.260 which is very possible

00:28:39.880 if you're aware

00:28:41.120 of your own priors

00:28:42.500 and you take the facts

00:28:44.440 as they come in

00:28:44.940 but the left

00:28:45.780 I submit to you

00:28:46.980 is not willing to do that

00:28:48.140 it is not willing

00:28:49.740 to do that

00:28:50.260 it is not going to accept

00:28:51.540 even if this guy

00:28:52.240 comes out

00:28:52.660 at this arraignment today

00:28:53.820 or his first appearance today

00:28:55.160 and says

00:28:55.660 I did it

00:28:56.660 for the trannies 1.00

00:28:57.580 or I did it

00:28:58.700 for Israel

00:29:00.120 or whatever

00:29:00.700 you pick it

00:29:01.320 you know

00:29:01.580 any number

00:29:02.880 that's going around now

00:29:03.760 the left will not accept that

00:29:05.720 they will only go

00:29:07.060 with the pre-existing narrative

00:29:08.260 I don't know why

00:29:09.940 they're divorced from reality

00:29:11.080 they can't accept

00:29:12.280 what their side is doing

00:29:13.460 you tell me

00:29:14.620 there's so much

00:29:16.580 to unpack here

00:29:17.400 I mean there's

00:29:17.940 you know

00:29:18.560 the frustration

00:29:19.220 that I had

00:29:20.240 when everything

00:29:21.360 you know

00:29:21.920 Occam's razor

00:29:22.540 as we've mentioned

00:29:23.240 a couple times

00:29:23.760 was so clear

00:29:24.420 that Charlie Kirk

00:29:26.160 of all people

00:29:27.080 was gunned down

00:29:28.380 in the middle

00:29:29.160 of one of his

00:29:30.280 debate sessions

00:29:31.480 with students

00:29:32.060 at a university

00:29:32.660 pretty obvious

00:29:33.860 what's going on here

00:29:34.740 I mean there's

00:29:35.400 a narrow band

00:29:36.480 of people

00:29:36.960 that could be

00:29:38.060 groipers

00:29:38.900 or something

00:29:39.520 but yet

00:29:41.100 because there's

00:29:42.060 you know

00:29:42.500 one person

00:29:43.340 out of all of them

00:29:44.100 you have

00:29:45.040 Heather Cox Richardson

00:29:46.720 the biggest substacker

00:29:48.120 and apparently

00:29:48.680 a professor

00:29:49.400 of some repute

00:29:51.120 which

00:29:51.620 she should lose

00:29:53.080 any of that repute

00:29:54.080 for the stuff

00:29:54.540 that I've been reading

00:29:55.160 by her

00:29:55.620 and you know

00:29:56.820 the bullet casing stuff

00:29:57.800 well that wasn't true

00:29:58.580 we've got to take

00:29:59.120 that story back

00:29:59.960 somebody told the Guardian

00:30:01.080 that he'd gone

00:30:01.920 very far left

00:30:02.660 and then the Guardian

00:30:03.320 said well we don't

00:30:04.060 know if that's true

00:30:04.600 we're actually going

00:30:04.920 to append something

00:30:06.160 everyone's being

00:30:06.540 very nervous

00:30:07.140 about this

00:30:07.700 about his politics

00:30:08.480 and then you think

00:30:09.500 back to Jared Loeffner

00:30:10.720 the psychotic

00:30:12.480 loser

00:30:13.600 who shot

00:30:14.600 Gabby Giffords

00:30:15.320 and we saw

00:30:17.200 Paul Krugman

00:30:18.040 the next day

00:30:18.860 you know

00:30:19.500 trying to tie this

00:30:20.520 to Republicans

00:30:21.740 people trying to tie

00:30:22.720 it to Sarah Palin

00:30:23.580 and then you saw

00:30:24.660 his

00:30:25.060 what he wrote

00:30:26.180 about this

00:30:26.720 before he did it

00:30:27.400 and it was a bunch

00:30:28.420 of babble

00:30:29.200 about numerology

00:30:30.360 and how grammar

00:30:32.200 was an evil

00:30:33.760 conspiracy

00:30:34.300 grammar

00:30:34.780 not liberals

00:30:36.280 but not

00:30:36.900 you know

00:30:37.320 grammar

00:30:38.220 and so they were

00:30:39.620 very happy

00:30:40.420 to jump

00:30:40.940 to those conclusions

00:30:41.780 then

00:30:42.100 and now

00:30:42.600 it's everybody

00:30:43.620 urging

00:30:44.140 calm and reflection

00:30:45.580 one thing I want

00:30:46.440 to say about

00:30:47.040 sticking to the facts

00:30:48.400 I mean we

00:30:49.800 absolutely have

00:30:50.900 to do that

00:30:51.320 and I see

00:30:51.720 so many people

00:30:52.380 like you Megan

00:30:52.840 who are not

00:30:53.260 doing that

00:30:53.700 and are getting

00:30:54.800 out in front

00:30:55.720 of themselves

00:30:56.080 to try to make

00:30:56.680 some sort

00:30:57.020 of political

00:30:57.320 point

00:30:57.700 there's a problem

00:30:59.100 though about the way

00:30:59.720 that people actually

00:31:00.200 deal with facts

00:31:01.080 and deal with things

00:31:02.180 that are undeniably

00:31:03.200 true

00:31:03.600 so you have people

00:31:05.040 saying well what about

00:31:06.240 the what aboutism

00:31:07.220 comes

00:31:07.700 and when we're

00:31:08.580 trying to figure out

00:31:09.360 who is more violent

00:31:10.440 the left to the right

00:31:11.280 which is a mugs game

00:31:12.340 it's a stupid idea

00:31:13.280 it's a stupid game

00:31:14.600 because there is

00:31:15.640 something in this

00:31:16.680 that is important

00:31:17.380 but no one is

00:31:18.420 paying attention to it

00:31:19.400 they're trying to figure out

00:31:20.320 on a scorecard

00:31:21.220 I've seen many of

00:31:22.260 these scorecards

00:31:22.980 the actual case here

00:31:24.720 is not that

00:31:25.600 there is a scorecard

00:31:26.620 it's how your side

00:31:28.780 it's how the people

00:31:30.220 in your

00:31:31.280 you know

00:31:31.740 retinue

00:31:32.180 how they deal with it

00:31:33.740 and how they

00:31:34.860 internalize violence

00:31:36.420 what I mean by this

00:31:37.860 is right close

00:31:38.680 to where I am right now

00:31:39.860 I just saw

00:31:41.100 a news

00:31:42.060 story pop up

00:31:43.840 that a judge

00:31:45.140 dismissed

00:31:45.760 two charges

00:31:46.700 in the Luigi Mangione case

00:31:48.560 one of them

00:31:48.920 I think

00:31:49.080 the terrorism charges

00:31:50.200 the second story

00:31:52.380 I saw

00:31:52.820 related to that

00:31:53.520 was a chorus

00:31:54.420 of cheers

00:31:54.900 from people

00:31:55.700 out in front

00:31:56.240 of the courtroom

00:31:56.800 odd people

00:31:58.520 who are holding signs

00:31:59.640 and standing

00:32:01.240 for Luigi

00:32:02.200 I just imagine

00:32:03.600 if there was

00:32:04.320 I don't love

00:32:04.900 playing this game

00:32:05.520 but I just imagine

00:32:06.120 if there was

00:32:06.520 some sort of

00:32:06.960 right wing lunatic

00:32:07.800 killer

00:32:08.160 and there was

00:32:08.520 50 people

00:32:09.140 out in front

00:32:10.120 of the courtroom

00:32:11.260 in New York City

00:32:11.920 cheering that person

00:32:13.200 having lesser

00:32:13.960 pictures

00:32:14.480 what would

00:32:15.700 you would never

00:32:16.400 hear the end of it

00:32:17.080 and if I can do

00:32:18.440 one very quick thing

00:32:19.440 and I'm just thinking

00:32:20.000 about this this morning

00:32:20.940 because I was coming

00:32:21.980 in to the city

00:32:23.980 on the subway

00:32:24.520 and I mentioned

00:32:26.080 this the other day

00:32:27.020 the institutional

00:32:28.480 acceptance of violence

00:32:30.480 on the left

00:32:31.460 and I'm sorry

00:32:31.920 I'm tired of being

00:32:32.980 ecumenical about this

00:32:34.000 there is no

00:32:35.320 people in universities

00:32:36.920 who committed

00:32:38.460 right wing terrorism

00:32:39.820 who now have

00:32:40.860 university jobs

00:32:41.740 or are treated

00:32:42.720 with respect

00:32:43.880 and I went down

00:32:45.240 the list

00:32:45.740 that's right

00:32:46.300 nor does the right

00:32:47.120 ever stop a speaker

00:32:48.160 from coming

00:32:48.680 to a college campus

00:32:49.720 and if they did

00:32:51.380 we would all denounce

00:32:52.180 it I hope

00:32:52.640 I mean I know

00:32:53.140 that you would

00:32:53.620 Megan I know

00:32:54.060 all three of us

00:32:54.740 would do it

00:32:55.240 but I was just

00:32:56.160 thinking of the people

00:32:57.040 because I'm obsessed

00:32:57.760 with this stuff

00:32:58.320 and I have mental

00:32:59.100 health issues Megan

00:32:59.840 and so I know

00:33:00.960 all these people

00:33:01.980 these mad terrorists

00:33:03.500 from the 1960s

00:33:04.460 who I've written

00:33:05.040 endlessly about

00:33:05.880 and I was trying

00:33:06.740 to think that people

00:33:07.300 who have been charged

00:33:08.000 with crimes

00:33:08.560 terrorism crimes

00:33:09.620 been in front of a court

00:33:10.960 because of this

00:33:11.640 who have advocated

00:33:12.540 violence

00:33:12.960 and in a lot of cases

00:33:13.840 participated in violence

00:33:14.980 and in some cases

00:33:16.080 been convicted

00:33:16.880 of murder

00:33:17.600 Kathy Boudin

00:33:19.000 Kathy Boudin

00:33:20.360 who was at NYU

00:33:21.920 and Columbia

00:33:22.840 she was convicted

00:33:23.460 of murder

00:33:24.180 Bill Ayers

00:33:24.900 Bill Ayers

00:33:26.660 at University of Illinois

00:33:27.600 Bernie Dorn

00:33:28.420 Northwestern

00:33:29.020 I was writing them down

00:33:30.060 Eleanor Stein

00:33:31.300 a member of the Weather Underground

00:33:32.360 SUNY Albany

00:33:33.260 Susan Rosenberg

00:33:34.240 John Jay College

00:33:34.980 and Hamilton College

00:33:35.840 Judith Clark

00:33:36.920 at CUNY

00:33:37.700 Kathy Boudin

00:33:38.800 Jamal Josephs

00:33:39.800 at Columbia University

00:33:40.520 Erica Huggins

00:33:41.400 at California State

00:33:42.340 Howard Mockdinger

00:33:43.720 University of North Carolina

00:33:45.400 the list goes on

00:33:46.240 all of those people

00:33:47.420 were involved

00:33:48.120 in terrorism

00:33:49.040 this is not a

00:33:50.360 controversial position

00:33:51.600 I'm taking

00:33:52.000 these people have been

00:33:53.300 either convicted

00:33:55.120 or were part

00:33:56.500 of this sort of

00:33:57.140 organizing committee

00:33:58.020 of the Weather Underground

00:33:58.600 not only did we

00:34:00.200 allow them

00:34:01.120 back into society

00:34:02.280 like look

00:34:03.240 you served your time

00:34:04.400 or you were

00:34:05.080 found innocent

00:34:06.060 I don't want to

00:34:07.340 put people

00:34:08.240 in a corner forever

00:34:09.200 most of these people

00:34:10.460 didn't go back

00:34:12.120 to their views

00:34:12.520 and say these were wrong

00:34:13.200 they got university

00:34:14.680 teaching jobs

00:34:15.880 university teaching jobs

00:34:18.060 and I ask every listener

00:34:19.340 of the show

00:34:19.900 if you think

00:34:20.400 that it's a small

00:34:21.660 proportion of people

00:34:23.280 that are celebrating

00:34:24.600 or justifying

00:34:25.720 Charlie Kirk's murder

00:34:26.520 I suspect it probably

00:34:28.220 is small

00:34:29.360 but it's way too big

00:34:30.580 those are the same

00:34:31.900 you can have exactly

00:34:33.020 those two sentiments

00:34:33.740 at the same time

00:34:34.400 and just think of anyone

00:34:35.840 that you know

00:34:36.940 on social media

00:34:38.360 who has said something

00:34:39.820 friend of a friend

00:34:41.240 who sent you a screenshot

00:34:42.280 of one of their friends

00:34:43.260 I have had so much

00:34:44.720 of this

00:34:45.000 and none of these people

00:34:45.940 are in the world

00:34:46.360 that we live

00:34:46.820 in the world of politics

00:34:48.100 and it's astonishing

00:34:49.800 to me

00:34:50.720 much like the

00:34:51.840 Luigi Mangione thing

00:34:53.340 how many people

00:34:54.600 are saying

00:34:54.980 well it's bad

00:34:56.060 but

00:34:56.620 that is a bad place

00:34:58.560 to be

00:34:59.580 and I want everyone

00:35:00.660 to walk away

00:35:01.400 from politics

00:35:01.960 for a second

00:35:02.400 because you start thinking

00:35:03.260 well what did Charlie Kirk

00:35:04.260 think about trans rights

00:35:06.140 and affirmative action

00:35:07.180 you know you should be

00:35:08.520 you should be my daughter

00:35:10.280 who's 14 year olds old

00:35:11.280 and just the most

00:35:12.020 fantastic person on earth

00:35:13.040 she found out about this

00:35:14.640 and texted me

00:35:15.420 and you know what her text was

00:35:16.920 he had two kids

00:35:18.660 that's what she said

00:35:20.600 and that's the right thing

00:35:21.840 she couldn't imagine

00:35:23.380 like

00:35:24.200 their father was taken away

00:35:26.760 because she has no politics in her 0.98

00:35:28.620 she's 14

00:35:29.580 she doesn't think about politics

00:35:30.520 so she thinks about

00:35:31.780 the natural thing

00:35:32.820 that we should think about

00:35:33.940 is someone being gunned down

00:35:36.580 and you know

00:35:38.360 there's so many horrors of it

00:35:39.500 but taking away a father

00:35:41.640 from their kids

00:35:42.160 who will you know

00:35:42.780 don't have a father growing up

00:35:44.120 I mean it's so horrifying to me

00:35:46.240 and I thought

00:35:47.000 when my daughter sent me

00:35:47.740 that text message

00:35:48.360 I was like

00:35:48.780 yeah we need to get back to that

00:35:50.140 we need to get back to being

00:35:50.960 out of the mouths of babes

00:35:52.340 and get out of the politics

00:35:54.480 and just think of the consequences

00:35:56.080 of this disgusting person's 0.83

00:35:58.400 disgusting actions

00:35:59.240 I just wanted to say

00:36:00.520 two factual things

00:36:01.780 on what you said

00:36:02.340 yes there was that controversy

00:36:03.800 about the bullet casing

00:36:04.560 where people say

00:36:04.900 oh well that fell apart

00:36:05.740 no it did not fall apart

00:36:06.980 the first bullet

00:36:08.260 the bullet casing

00:36:09.560 on the bullet that hit Charlie

00:36:12.640 read notices bulges

00:36:15.440 O-W-O 0.99

00:36:17.020 which is a furry meme

00:36:19.740 it's a meme from furry culture

00:36:21.540 which is very closely linked

00:36:23.500 to the trans community

00:36:24.700 and who does it turn out

00:36:26.400 his boyfriend is

00:36:27.360 a furry

00:36:28.500 slash trans person 1.00

00:36:30.200 and the shooter himself

00:36:31.620 is linked to a furry website

00:36:34.220 he's he registered

00:36:35.660 on this furry website

00:36:37.220 so it's very linked

00:36:38.820 I mean don't believe

00:36:39.800 don't believe me

00:36:40.340 go ahead

00:36:40.700 look at it online

00:36:41.620 that furry culture

00:36:42.420 and that trans culture

00:36:43.300 are two sides

00:36:44.960 of the same coin

00:36:45.820 so it did not fall apart

00:36:47.480 in fact if anything

00:36:48.660 it only came into full flower

00:36:50.920 once we learned

00:36:51.520 about the boyfriend

00:36:52.200 not for nothing

00:36:53.620 but there are

00:36:54.220 unconfirmed reports

00:36:55.440 now that there was

00:36:56.460 a second boyfriend

00:36:57.180 who was also

00:36:57.900 much like the first one

00:36:59.560 we'll see whether

00:37:00.660 that's true or not

00:37:01.540 but clearly this man

00:37:02.820 the shooter

00:37:03.360 and his boyfriend

00:37:04.060 were extremely tied

00:37:05.100 to the trans community

00:37:06.940 and according to what I read

00:37:10.840 from Aesthetica

00:37:11.680 and the Washington Free Beacon

00:37:13.040 also to some sort of group online

00:37:16.440 that was predicting this murder

00:37:18.100 so the FBI is looking

00:37:19.860 into all that

00:37:20.280 and then secondly

00:37:20.860 you mentioned

00:37:22.480 the friend interview

00:37:23.300 to the Guardian

00:37:23.840 which then the Guardian

00:37:24.580 stood down on

00:37:25.320 the friend of the shooter

00:37:26.300 was allegedly saying

00:37:27.300 he went very left

00:37:28.340 in recent years

00:37:29.080 and this is a left wing publication

00:37:31.200 so the left

00:37:32.120 didn't know what to do with that

00:37:33.140 like why would

00:37:33.880 you can see why

00:37:34.640 National Review

00:37:35.180 would write that

00:37:35.740 but why would

00:37:36.280 the Guardian say that

00:37:37.300 if it weren't true

00:37:37.820 so it was a problematic report

00:37:39.080 for these lefties

00:37:39.840 and then the Guardian

00:37:40.940 stood down on the report

00:37:42.540 saying oh we're not sure

00:37:43.940 and then all the left

00:37:45.460 used that too

00:37:46.060 to say oh see

00:37:46.860 he wasn't a lefty

00:37:48.540 totally ignoring

00:37:49.400 that the Utah governor

00:37:50.580 has repeatedly said

00:37:51.600 and the FBI

00:37:52.320 has now repeatedly said

00:37:53.680 on the record

00:37:54.500 on camera

00:37:55.680 not anonymously

00:37:56.840 not leaked

00:37:57.560 that he had been infected

00:37:59.940 by far left ideology

00:38:02.020 by left wing ideology

00:38:03.600 that is what they both said

00:38:05.100 they won't acknowledge it

00:38:07.000 instead we get

00:38:08.100 here's CBS Evening News'

00:38:11.380 John Dickinson

00:38:12.840 just the other night

00:38:14.940 on Monday

00:38:15.420 last night

00:38:16.240 five days after

00:38:18.120 Charlie Kirk's murder

00:38:19.440 the shooter's motive

00:38:20.720 remains elusive

00:38:21.740 no writings left behind

00:38:23.280 vague second hand testimony

00:38:24.860 that uncertainty

00:38:26.220 and the risk of drawing

00:38:27.280 sweeping conclusions

00:38:28.400 suggests the murder

00:38:29.940 may share similarities

00:38:31.020 with recent violence

00:38:32.520 not driven

00:38:33.120 by an obvious

00:38:34.140 political ideology

00:38:35.300 the FBI recently

00:38:36.880 recognized a new category

00:38:38.480 nihilistic violent extremism

00:38:40.940 hmm

00:38:42.440 what is he talking about

00:38:44.520 that's very selective

00:38:44.880 very selective

00:38:46.220 skepticism

00:38:47.280 again

00:38:47.820 I'm in favor

00:38:49.280 of like

00:38:49.920 let's hold it off

00:38:50.940 wait for the evidence

00:38:52.060 to come in

00:38:52.540 and try hard

00:38:53.460 not to root for

00:38:54.700 what category

00:38:55.960 this shooter belongs to

00:38:56.900 I think that we all

00:38:58.200 should do more of that

00:38:58.900 so maybe the first half

00:39:00.240 of a sentence could be

00:39:00.880 read like that

00:39:01.920 but then the second half

00:39:03.340 of a sentence is

00:39:04.020 it suggests

00:39:05.280 this explanation over here

00:39:07.440 like wait a second

00:39:07.960 where was the tiktok

00:39:08.820 of evidence Matt

00:39:09.820 okay if you're gonna say

00:39:11.400 we don't know

00:39:11.980 what the motive is

00:39:12.560 you must offer

00:39:14.080 the evidence we do have

00:39:15.200 there were no writings

00:39:16.140 yes there fucking were 0.51

00:39:17.700 there were writings

00:39:18.860 there were writings

00:39:20.180 on the bullet pacings

00:39:22.100 you absolute asshole

00:39:23.940 like there were writings

00:39:26.400 and they couldn't have

00:39:27.520 been more tied

00:39:28.540 intimately to the actual murder

00:39:31.280 this is insanity to say that

00:39:33.280 and that

00:39:34.020 and there might be

00:39:34.480 by the way

00:39:34.760 there doesn't have to be

00:39:35.400 writings anyway

00:39:36.300 but if there are

00:39:38.040 and then you look at the man's

00:39:39.300 lifestyle

00:39:39.700 and they back up

00:39:40.760 everything that was written

00:39:42.000 on the bullets

00:39:42.580 it seems like it might be

00:39:43.980 worth leading with

00:39:45.160 John

00:39:45.820 rather than

00:39:46.920 gee it might be

00:39:47.720 it's just a mystery

00:39:49.020 and by the way

00:39:50.000 then we saw Jessica Tarlov

00:39:51.440 try to do that shit

00:39:52.960 on Fox News

00:39:54.240 is the five

00:39:55.000 as she both sides 0.88

00:39:56.380 is

00:39:56.700 both sides

00:39:58.080 the violence issue

00:40:00.320 and it was a great response

00:40:01.860 from Greg Gutfeld

00:40:02.660 that is very satisfying

00:40:03.860 to watch

00:40:04.340 I encourage people

00:40:04.900 to watch the whole thing

00:40:05.600 online

00:40:05.960 because

00:40:06.900 he spoke for all of us

00:40:09.580 in his

00:40:10.180 his firing back at her 0.80

00:40:12.560 and her shutting 1.00

00:40:13.420 that shit down

00:40:14.240 here it is

00:40:14.820 why is only this

00:40:17.100 happening on the left

00:40:18.140 and not the right

00:40:18.840 that's all we need to know

00:40:20.060 there's absolutely no

00:40:21.580 cognitive

00:40:21.820 what about Melissa Hortman

00:40:22.980 that we just talked about

00:40:23.820 you want to talk about

00:40:24.360 Melissa Hortman

00:40:25.120 did you know her name

00:40:26.760 before it happened

00:40:27.500 none of us did

00:40:28.700 none of us were spending

00:40:29.900 every single day

00:40:30.700 talking about Mrs. Hortman

00:40:31.940 I never heard of her

00:40:33.380 until after she died

00:40:34.400 so she doesn't matter 0.69

00:40:34.920 don't play that bullshit

00:40:37.860 with me

00:40:38.420 you know

00:40:39.220 what I'm saying is

00:40:40.520 there was no

00:40:41.420 demonization

00:40:42.300 amplification

00:40:43.180 about that woman 0.76

00:40:44.180 before she died

00:40:45.220 it was a specific

00:40:46.220 crime against her

00:40:47.340 by somebody who knew her

00:40:48.680 the both sides argument

00:40:50.940 not only doesn't fly

00:40:53.180 we don't care

00:40:54.840 we don't care

00:40:56.120 about your both sides argument

00:40:57.440 that shit is dead

00:40:59.580 all that I was saying is

00:41:01.180 is could we have

00:41:02.120 all of the information

00:41:03.060 before you just say

00:41:04.000 they did this

00:41:05.240 because that is a broad brush

00:41:07.000 to paint with this

00:41:07.800 and this kid

00:41:08.620 let's have a conversation

00:41:09.860 no

00:41:10.420 Charlie had a conversation

00:41:11.840 you got shot

00:41:12.720 I

00:41:12.960 they built this thing up

00:41:15.280 we're dealing with it

00:41:16.620 we're gonna act

00:41:17.800 we don't care

00:41:18.940 what the whataboutism

00:41:20.420 is anymore

00:41:21.020 that shit's dead

00:41:21.960 I couldn't agree more

00:41:25.260 I like

00:41:25.720 I just feel like

00:41:26.640 what do you

00:41:27.580 she's acting like

00:41:28.520 it's a total mystery

00:41:29.460 she's she's pulling

00:41:30.460 the John Dickerson thing

00:41:31.580 Dickinson

00:41:32.060 where it's like

00:41:32.880 gee

00:41:33.460 just such a mystery

00:41:34.840 oh and by the way

00:41:35.840 both sides do

00:41:36.600 political violence

00:41:37.300 they keep raising

00:41:38.540 this house speaker

00:41:39.580 in Minnesota

00:41:40.340 and it is infuriating

00:41:42.020 first of all

00:41:42.620 Gutfeld is exactly right

00:41:44.120 she wasn't killed

00:41:45.440 because there were

00:41:46.200 universal attacks

00:41:47.780 by the right

00:41:49.000 on her

00:41:49.720 stirring up

00:41:50.840 the national animus

00:41:52.220 against her

00:41:53.360 nobody knew her name

00:41:54.840 she wasn't some 0.84

00:41:55.640 some star

00:41:56.580 in Minnesota either

00:41:57.720 where it was like

00:41:58.300 oh every negative article

00:41:59.520 about this house speaker

00:42:00.380 that's not at all

00:42:01.420 what was happening there

00:42:02.600 and secondly

00:42:03.280 the guy who killed her

00:42:05.140 the psycho

00:42:05.760 remember who broke

00:42:06.540 into her home

00:42:07.380 and and

00:42:08.400 was wearing the mask

00:42:09.760 was a psycho

00:42:11.080 the guy was a psycho

00:42:12.740 he had clearly

00:42:14.260 lost his mind

00:42:15.460 you can attribute it

00:42:16.740 to political violence

00:42:17.620 like yes he targeted

00:42:18.460 somebody who was in

00:42:19.220 politics

00:42:19.600 but he was a nutcase 0.58

00:42:21.200 so far I've seen

00:42:22.660 no evidence

00:42:23.380 that this particular

00:42:24.180 22 year old

00:42:25.060 was a nutcase

00:42:26.820 in the truest sense

00:42:27.640 of that word

00:42:28.520 nor the guy

00:42:30.000 who shot Trump

00:42:30.780 and got shot himself

00:42:32.140 in Butler Pennsylvania

00:42:33.080 for that matter

00:42:33.900 now they may have been

00:42:35.320 20 something year old

00:42:36.380 men who had a break

00:42:37.240 but the evidence

00:42:38.160 on that is out

00:42:39.100 but but to raise

00:42:40.860 the speaker in Minneapolis

00:42:42.360 like or Minnesota

00:42:43.360 like she is in any way

00:42:45.060 comparable to Charlie

00:42:45.820 Kirk is a lie

00:42:46.560 the left is lying

00:42:48.120 it is their side

00:42:49.580 that does political violence

00:42:50.700 and because you might

00:42:51.740 be able to find

00:42:52.180 one random right wing

00:42:53.680 example

00:42:54.620 okay Paul Pelosi

00:42:55.720 was attacked

00:42:56.240 that wasn't a Republican

00:42:57.540 attacking Paul Pelosi

00:42:58.940 are you kidding me

00:42:59.820 the guy

00:43:00.480 everything around him

00:43:01.300 he was with the pride flag

00:43:02.860 and the BLM

00:43:03.740 and he was a nut too

00:43:05.540 but don't tell me

00:43:06.400 he was some Republican

00:43:07.340 doing Republican violence

00:43:08.500 against her husband

00:43:09.620 because they're Democrats

00:43:10.500 the things they pluck

00:43:11.980 are inapposite

00:43:13.760 as we would say

00:43:14.680 in our legal briefs

00:43:15.520 they don't fit

00:43:16.380 they're off point

00:43:17.540 and and while they do

00:43:19.360 that shit

00:43:19.780 they don't acknowledge

00:43:20.740 we had two

00:43:22.340 arguably three

00:43:23.420 presidential assassination

00:43:24.680 attempts on our guy

00:43:26.020 as he was inching

00:43:26.840 toward the polls

00:43:28.400 before November

00:43:29.320 of 2024

00:43:29.940 and his most

00:43:31.400 prominent supporter

00:43:32.480 there's not a more

00:43:33.780 prominent Trump

00:43:34.780 surrogate than Charlie

00:43:36.040 Kirk

00:43:36.320 was just gunned down

00:43:38.220 in the prime of his life

00:43:39.420 deal with that

00:43:40.740 imagine

00:43:43.140 the situation

00:43:44.440 if someone

00:43:45.800 shot

00:43:46.600 Barack Obama

00:43:48.140 Joe Biden

00:43:49.160 in the ear

00:43:49.960 and then

00:43:51.000 not long after

00:43:52.060 shot one of his

00:43:53.920 biggest supporters

00:43:55.240 or one of their

00:43:56.160 biggest supporters

00:43:56.780 in the neck

00:43:57.300 and killed them

00:43:57.880 I think that we would

00:43:59.520 be having a conversation

00:44:00.880 about the epidemic

00:44:01.620 of political violence

00:44:02.780 right now

00:44:04.080 what we're having

00:44:04.900 is well

00:44:05.580 what about this

00:44:06.480 and you know

00:44:07.020 it doesn't look

00:44:07.760 we're a nation

00:44:08.340 of 330

00:44:09.280 340 million people

00:44:10.620 you can have a time

00:44:12.180 in which 10 people

00:44:13.420 who are nominally

00:44:14.440 on the right

00:44:15.140 you know

00:44:16.500 or the left

00:44:17.100 you know

00:44:18.040 go out and do

00:44:18.940 terrible things

00:44:19.600 kill people

00:44:20.480 shoot people

00:44:21.440 burn things down

00:44:22.420 whatever it might be

00:44:23.220 that's not the

00:44:24.680 interesting thing

00:44:25.300 I'm sorry

00:44:26.280 it's just not

00:44:26.980 as far as trends go

00:44:28.620 the thing that bothers me

00:44:30.600 is my daughter

00:44:31.500 also said to me

00:44:32.220 she's like

00:44:32.540 it's going to be

00:44:32.940 Luigi Mangione

00:44:33.720 all over again

00:44:34.640 this is the 14 year old

00:44:35.880 very smart girl

00:44:37.460 I'll send you a text

00:44:38.660 this is the one

00:44:38.980 that's my fan

00:44:39.640 isn't it

00:44:40.140 yeah

00:44:40.320 she does

00:44:41.220 she sends me

00:44:41.900 she sends me clips

00:44:42.820 and I was like

00:44:43.840 could you please block Megan

00:44:45.520 you're getting radicalized

00:44:46.880 this is a little too much

00:44:48.660 you go to school

00:44:49.300 in New York City

00:44:49.880 she's in good hands

00:44:50.900 I got her

00:44:51.720 she's in very good hands

00:44:53.580 but the thing about this

00:44:55.160 is that again

00:44:55.960 it doesn't really matter to me

00:44:58.000 if we're keeping

00:44:58.800 this scorecard

00:44:59.460 it matters on how

00:45:00.320 people react to it

00:45:01.220 if there is

00:45:02.580 for instance

00:45:03.200 a bunch of people

00:45:03.940 who say

00:45:05.120 you know what

00:45:06.100 Mangione

00:45:06.620 yeah maybe you shouldn't

00:45:07.760 kill people

00:45:08.140 but do you know

00:45:08.600 what the

00:45:08.980 do you know

00:45:09.340 what the healthcare

00:45:09.860 companies do

00:45:10.580 it's like

00:45:11.540 this kind of reaction

00:45:12.760 is

00:45:13.200 remember when you guys

00:45:14.300 were on

00:45:14.780 right after that happened

00:45:16.040 and we refused

00:45:16.940 to have that conversation

00:45:17.980 right now

00:45:18.400 we was like

00:45:18.740 you could have a conversation

00:45:20.500 about healthcare

00:45:21.100 and insurance

00:45:21.920 and all that

00:45:22.400 it's totally inappropriate

00:45:23.820 to have it

00:45:24.420 right now

00:45:25.360 as the CEO

00:45:26.560 of United Healthcare

00:45:27.200 was killed

00:45:27.760 by some nutcase 0.87

00:45:29.060 over it

00:45:29.460 right

00:45:29.620 like by Luis Mangione

00:45:30.860 like no

00:45:31.600 we're not doing that

00:45:32.440 we refuse

00:45:33.120 and nobody else

00:45:35.060 will do that

00:45:35.600 that's all they want

00:45:37.100 to talk about

00:45:37.640 his murder

00:45:38.540 that part is true

00:45:39.400 sure

00:45:39.640 his murder

00:45:40.360 was defended

00:45:41.420 by somebody

00:45:42.840 who was previously

00:45:44.000 employed by both

00:45:45.480 the New York Times

00:45:45.940 and the Washington Post

00:45:46.660 in a big position

00:45:48.040 Taylor Lorenz

00:45:48.780 correct

00:45:49.680 I mean defending

00:45:51.080 a murder

00:45:52.080 and saying well you know

00:45:52.760 and then talking about

00:45:53.860 this on CNN

00:45:54.580 to the CNN

00:45:55.800 correspondents

00:45:56.700 chuckles

00:45:57.120 if you think that

00:45:58.040 I'm joking about this

00:45:59.000 chuckling

00:45:59.640 isn't that hilarious

00:46:02.380 that someone

00:46:02.900 was gunned down

00:46:03.700 and his kids

00:46:04.320 are left

00:46:05.260 fatherless again

00:46:06.540 if you treat

00:46:07.420 violence that way

00:46:08.560 if you're Brown University

00:46:10.240 and you buy

00:46:11.500 the papers

00:46:12.180 of Mumia Abu-Jamal

00:46:14.020 the prisoner

00:46:14.720 I guess he's not

00:46:15.780 on death row anymore

00:46:16.560 but he's in

00:46:17.220 prison for life

00:46:17.960 for shooting

00:46:18.820 a father down

00:46:19.880 in Philadelphia

00:46:22.140 in the early 1980s

00:46:23.800 killing a cop

00:46:24.580 but he was warm

00:46:25.640 and fuzzy

00:46:26.020 and had dreadlocks

00:46:26.860 and was on NPR

00:46:27.980 they used to put him

00:46:28.700 on NPR

00:46:29.040 they used to put him

00:46:29.760 radio commentaries

00:46:30.720 from this assassin

00:46:32.480 this murderer

00:46:33.540 but he had the right politics

00:46:34.980 if people on the right

00:46:37.000 I would

00:46:37.400 more sympathy

00:46:38.580 with Jessica Tarloff

00:46:39.420 and people

00:46:39.900 who were doing

00:46:40.700 the whataboutism

00:46:41.440 if there were people

00:46:42.620 on the right

00:46:43.080 who committed crimes

00:46:44.200 in the name

00:46:45.180 of conservative politics

00:46:46.360 and the rest of us

00:46:47.640 said well you know what

00:46:48.500 you know there's

00:46:50.040 by the way

00:46:50.460 I don't see a lot

00:46:52.000 of people going around

00:46:52.880 talking about how

00:46:54.000 Augusto Pinochet

00:46:54.940 in Chile

00:46:56.080 was the great hero

00:46:57.440 there's some people

00:46:58.020 they're called groipers 1.00

00:46:58.820 I mean there are people

00:46:59.300 that actually do

00:46:59.940 have these Pinochet

00:47:01.080 t-shirts

00:47:01.700 because he killed people

00:47:02.620 in this anti-communist

00:47:03.780 crusade

00:47:04.160 I mean I can find

00:47:05.480 if I walk down the street

00:47:06.300 with a Castro t-shirt

00:47:07.300 on in this city

00:47:08.140 or in this my neighborhood

00:47:09.000 nobody would

00:47:10.540 bat an eye

00:47:11.560 another murderer

00:47:13.280 of Latin American

00:47:14.480 dissidents

00:47:15.180 you might get a compliment

00:47:16.020 actually

00:47:16.600 you would absolutely

00:47:17.660 get a compliment

00:47:18.100 I'm very very exhausted

00:47:20.540 by this idea

00:47:21.980 that if you commit crimes

00:47:23.880 and your motivation

00:47:25.080 is the appropriate one

00:47:26.740 we excuse the crime

00:47:27.820 no no no

00:47:29.340 it's nonsense

00:47:30.000 I mean I disagree

00:47:31.400 I disagree with

00:47:32.380 virtually all of that

00:47:33.640 but I will say

00:47:34.360 like that clip

00:47:35.220 of Jessica and Greg

00:47:36.600 you agree or disagree

00:47:37.840 with all of that

00:47:38.560 you disagree with

00:47:39.560 Moynihan's point

00:47:40.120 I agree with all

00:47:41.080 of Moynihan's point

00:47:41.760 I was about to fire you

00:47:43.320 from the podcast

00:47:43.760 on air

00:47:45.620 the live fire

00:47:47.000 that was a shock

00:47:47.360 that was a shock to me

00:47:49.120 I was gonna say

00:47:51.660 was watching Jessica

00:47:52.960 and Greg's exchange

00:47:54.060 was actually kind of hard

00:47:54.960 because we know

00:47:56.280 both of them

00:47:56.980 I like Greg

00:47:58.380 and Jessica a lot

00:47:59.540 and it's

00:48:00.740 it's actually clear

00:48:01.740 in the clip

00:48:02.340 that they're both

00:48:03.020 like pretty emotional

00:48:03.900 like both of them

00:48:05.840 and I haven't seen

00:48:07.040 well I haven't seen

00:48:09.100 the whole clip

00:48:09.660 and I mean I think

00:48:10.340 it's it's certainly

00:48:11.160 fair for her to

00:48:12.120 like to have

00:48:13.440 complicated feelings

00:48:14.720 about

00:48:15.340 about all of

00:48:17.180 this circumstance

00:48:17.800 I'm confident

00:48:18.860 knowing the kind

00:48:19.680 of person Jessica

00:48:20.320 is that she is

00:48:21.660 sympathetic to Charlie

00:48:22.620 and his family

00:48:23.260 and I have to suspect

00:48:24.900 that she is like

00:48:25.640 condemned violence

00:48:26.560 because that's the

00:48:27.140 kind of person she is

00:48:28.180 what I suspect though

00:48:29.500 is that if the two

00:48:30.660 of them were having

00:48:31.600 a longer conversation

00:48:33.100 in a different context

00:48:34.540 away from cameras

00:48:35.380 and microphones

00:48:36.000 at a moment

00:48:36.880 when we're dealing

00:48:37.440 with so much raw emotion

00:48:38.720 my suspicion is

00:48:39.860 that they would agree

00:48:40.620 on much of the

00:48:41.580 most important things

00:48:42.680 but I suspect Greg

00:48:44.200 could even make

00:48:44.920 a forceful argument

00:48:45.680 that these two things

00:48:46.620 really are categorically

00:48:47.820 different

00:48:48.180 and that there really

00:48:49.440 is an issue

00:48:50.880 where you have had

00:48:52.080 for so long

00:48:52.940 a steady

00:48:53.560 steady drumbeat

00:48:54.700 of narrativizing

00:48:56.400 about the kind of

00:48:57.420 apocalyptic danger

00:48:58.700 about the genocidal

00:49:00.400 risk

00:49:00.900 of a particular

00:49:02.220 political faction

00:49:03.400 in this country

00:49:04.300 like that has been

00:49:05.360 happening for years

00:49:06.840 the phrase

00:49:07.860 transgenocide 1.00

00:49:08.720 is one that I

00:49:09.700 encountered yesterday

00:49:10.860 watching clips

00:49:11.620 of something

00:49:12.700 and it bears

00:49:14.320 no resemblance

00:49:15.600 to reality

00:49:16.300 whatsoever

00:49:16.900 and it's hard

00:49:18.020 to imagine

00:49:18.440 that it's also

00:49:18.940 not something

00:49:20.000 because it is

00:49:20.500 part of our

00:49:21.000 politics now

00:49:21.640 that isn't

00:49:22.280 helping to animate

00:49:23.240 some of the

00:49:23.900 consternation

00:49:24.700 and insanity

00:49:25.740 that contributes

00:49:26.780 to crazy acts

00:49:28.040 of violence

00:49:28.440 like this

00:49:28.840 ultimately

00:49:29.260 the individual

00:49:30.220 who has done

00:49:31.020 the thing

00:49:31.340 is responsible

00:49:31.920 we've had seven

00:49:31.960 mass shootings

00:49:32.620 just in the past

00:49:33.780 couple of years

00:49:34.320 by trans identified

00:49:35.580 shooters

00:49:35.980 seven

00:49:36.620 that just as

00:49:38.080 Charlie said

00:49:38.700 in a couple

00:49:39.960 of the last words

00:49:40.740 he ever spoke

00:49:41.400 how many

00:49:42.140 of these mass shootings

00:49:43.560 have been perpetrated

00:49:44.320 by trans shooters

00:49:45.120 too many

00:49:46.040 that's what he said

00:49:47.100 that's the truth

00:49:48.380 seven is a lot

00:49:49.860 given their percentage

00:49:50.860 of the population

00:49:51.720 there's something

00:49:52.540 wrong

00:49:53.240 that we need to

00:49:54.120 take very seriously

00:49:55.160 and not talking

00:49:57.600 about it

00:49:58.000 not being honest

00:49:58.740 about the connection

00:49:59.460 to that culture

00:50:00.240 and individuals

00:50:02.080 who are celebrating

00:50:03.040 it and may have

00:50:03.720 been in on it

00:50:04.400 to begin with

00:50:05.120 we'll find out

00:50:06.260 is deeply wrong

00:50:07.540 that is hashtag

00:50:08.160 part of the problem

00:50:08.860 and setting us up

00:50:09.480 for more violence

00:50:10.280 I wanted to add

00:50:11.460 to the woman 0.68

00:50:12.880 who was killed

00:50:13.240 in Minnesota

00:50:13.780 the speaker

00:50:14.260 of the house

00:50:14.740 there

00:50:15.000 she was killed

00:50:17.740 by this nutcase 0.88

00:50:18.920 who wrote

00:50:19.480 Tim Walz

00:50:20.300 had instructed him

00:50:21.740 to kill

00:50:22.680 other demonic

00:50:23.680 politicians

00:50:24.360 so if there was

00:50:24.980 any connection

00:50:25.680 by that guy

00:50:26.320 who had done

00:50:26.860 work with Tim Walz

00:50:27.620 by the way

00:50:28.060 it wasn't to Republicans

00:50:29.760 okay

00:50:30.900 we have a lot

00:50:31.980 more to get to

00:50:32.580 this Pam Bondi

00:50:33.440 statement on

00:50:34.240 hate speech

00:50:35.740 is nuts

00:50:36.720 and we're going

00:50:37.400 to talk about

00:50:37.780 the Candace

00:50:38.300 what's happening

00:50:39.520 between Candace

00:50:40.260 and Israel

00:50:42.120 and the Turning Point

00:50:43.400 group next

00:50:44.080 I've been talking

00:50:45.400 a lot about

00:50:45.900 Riverbend Ranch

00:50:46.680 lately because

00:50:47.480 their steaks are amazing

00:50:48.640 Riverbend Ranch

00:50:49.960 has taken

00:50:50.700 black Angus beef

00:50:51.860 to a whole new level

00:50:53.080 for the last 35 years

00:50:55.040 Riverbend Ranch

00:50:55.840 has been creating

00:50:56.400 a very elite Angus herd

00:50:57.980 by using ultrasound

00:50:59.140 to select

00:51:00.400 genetically superior cattle

00:51:02.120 with a focus

00:51:03.040 on flavor

00:51:03.520 and tenderness

00:51:04.240 when you purchase

00:51:05.400 from Riverbend Ranch

00:51:06.600 you are not only

00:51:07.380 supporting the 64

00:51:08.320 cowboys and cowgirls

00:51:09.560 and their families

00:51:10.080 who work on that ranch

00:51:11.040 but you're also

00:51:12.080 supporting over 260

00:51:13.400 other U.S. ranches

00:51:14.580 and the hundreds

00:51:15.640 of American families

00:51:16.560 who work on them

00:51:17.760 it is born in the USA

00:51:19.380 raised in the USA

00:51:20.360 and processed in the USA

00:51:21.520 it's aged to perfection

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00:51:40.000 Megan

00:51:40.600 back with me now

00:51:48.380 Camille Foster

00:51:49.040 Michael Moynihan

00:51:49.840 and Matt Welsh

00:51:50.560 of the fifth column

00:51:51.480 I want to tell our

00:51:52.300 audience that today

00:51:53.140 over on Charlie's

00:51:54.580 show

00:51:55.220 you know

00:51:56.380 his wife Erica

00:51:56.940 said his show

00:51:57.580 will go on

00:51:58.440 and yesterday

00:51:59.760 we had

00:52:00.220 a substitute host

00:52:02.000 a host

00:52:04.180 of the vice president

00:52:06.620 J.D. Vance

00:52:07.380 hosted it

00:52:08.060 from the White House

00:52:08.780 today

00:52:09.520 it's the crew

00:52:10.880 from the Daily Wire

00:52:11.680 Ben Shapiro

00:52:12.420 Matt Walsh

00:52:13.680 and Michael Knowles

00:52:15.020 all together

00:52:15.660 in Charlie's studio

00:52:17.380 out in Arizona

00:52:18.740 so good for them

00:52:20.240 okay

00:52:21.800 and that leads me to

00:52:22.600 I'm going to lay out

00:52:23.200 what happens

00:52:23.700 what's going on here

00:52:25.240 with Candace

00:52:26.360 Bibi Netanyahu

00:52:27.920 and Bill Ackman

00:52:29.540 because

00:52:30.980 it kind of

00:52:32.900 leads up to

00:52:34.140 something that happened

00:52:34.960 between Charlie

00:52:36.220 and me

00:52:36.820 on this show

00:52:38.420 about a month ago

00:52:40.240 August 6th

00:52:41.760 okay

00:52:42.000 and the audience

00:52:42.500 experienced this

00:52:43.460 with me

00:52:44.120 so I'm just going to

00:52:45.120 set up what's happening

00:52:46.100 so everybody understands

00:52:46.920 Bibi Netanyahu

00:52:51.700 went on Fox News

00:52:53.480 on September 11th

00:52:55.780 the day after Charlie

00:52:56.580 was shot

00:52:57.040 and commented

00:52:58.800 on the loss

00:52:59.460 of the man

00:53:00.440 he said

00:53:00.900 was his friend

00:53:01.700 and here's that

00:53:02.800 in Satwan in part

00:53:03.760 he was an extraordinary friend

00:53:07.140 he

00:53:07.660 you know

00:53:08.900 he said

00:53:09.760 he wrote me a letter

00:53:10.860 on May 2nd

00:53:12.780 this year

00:53:13.560 he said

00:53:14.300 one of my greatest joys

00:53:15.620 as a Christian

00:53:16.320 is advocating

00:53:17.720 for Israel

00:53:18.400 and forming alliances

00:53:20.140 to defend

00:53:20.860 Judeo-Christian civilization

00:53:22.260 a few weeks

00:53:24.120 before

00:53:24.520 the tragedy

00:53:26.280 yesterday

00:53:27.060 I called him

00:53:28.840 and I spoke to him

00:53:30.060 and I said

00:53:30.500 please come to Israel 1.00

00:53:31.480 I invited him to Israel

00:53:32.620 and sadly

00:53:34.120 that visit

00:53:34.840 will not take place

00:53:35.720 but he was

00:53:36.360 he was a defender

00:53:37.720 of our common

00:53:38.900 Judeo-Christian civilization

00:53:40.100 he was

00:53:40.720 unbelievably excited

00:53:42.160 to walk

00:53:42.620 in the footsteps

00:53:43.120 of Jesus here

00:53:44.020 he

00:53:45.020 he valued our bond

00:53:46.800 the bond between

00:53:47.440 America and Israel

00:53:48.280 okay

00:53:51.020 so

00:53:51.540 Candace

00:53:52.220 who's been critical

00:53:52.840 of Israel

00:53:53.320 in this conflict

00:53:54.200 did not appreciate

00:53:56.120 that we had a foreign leader

00:53:58.080 reading part

00:53:59.700 of Charlie's letter

00:54:00.680 trying to characterize

00:54:01.780 his stance on Israel

00:54:02.980 without giving it

00:54:04.480 its full measure

00:54:05.280 because

00:54:06.120 it had changed

00:54:07.140 a bit

00:54:07.760 in recent months

00:54:09.480 and she is not wrong

00:54:11.060 about that

00:54:11.600 she responded

00:54:13.960 on her show

00:54:14.800 and Candace

00:54:16.560 was very good friends

00:54:17.500 with Charlie

00:54:17.920 I mean

00:54:18.380 she called herself

00:54:19.160 a mason

00:54:19.680 of Turning Point

00:54:20.480 and she is

00:54:21.580 she is

00:54:22.700 she helped

00:54:24.080 build that group

00:54:24.840 when she was coming up

00:54:26.040 and Charlie was coming up

00:54:26.820 and they're both very young

00:54:27.580 they were out there

00:54:28.640 at many events together

00:54:29.900 before anybody knew

00:54:31.220 the name Turning Point

00:54:32.240 or Charlie Kirk

00:54:33.120 for that matter

00:54:33.680 and I was actually

00:54:35.180 very moved

00:54:35.780 by the video montage

00:54:37.240 she showed

00:54:37.840 of pictures

00:54:38.800 of her and Charlie

00:54:40.220 together

00:54:40.640 singing together

00:54:42.040 and dancing

00:54:42.500 having a great time

00:54:43.460 you know

00:54:44.460 they were young

00:54:45.120 in this business

00:54:45.680 and figuring things out

00:54:47.480 so I believe

00:54:48.940 Candace is sincere

00:54:50.600 in her upset 0.63

00:54:51.400 around Charlie's

00:54:53.160 everything

00:54:54.100 I mean obviously

00:54:55.060 around Charlie's death

00:54:55.900 but around people

00:54:56.780 trying to talk

00:54:57.620 for him

00:54:58.740 and sort of

00:55:00.140 summarize his position

00:55:01.300 on something

00:55:01.740 as controversial

00:55:02.400 as Israel

00:55:03.660 so here is what

00:55:05.360 she said

00:55:06.120 again in part

00:55:06.660 you should go watch

00:55:07.220 her show

00:55:07.520 to hear the full measure

00:55:08.300 but here is what

00:55:09.720 she said

00:55:10.220 in response

00:55:10.880 to Netanyahu

00:55:11.500 on her show

00:55:12.420 just the other day

00:55:13.980 it's up too

00:55:14.520 no there definitely

00:55:16.640 is a little bit

00:55:17.640 more to the story

00:55:18.740 first and foremost

00:55:19.380 that letter

00:55:19.940 he is holding up

00:55:21.240 he is severely

00:55:21.960 misrepresenting

00:55:22.980 those sentences

00:55:24.020 are real

00:55:24.840 but I am calling

00:55:26.340 upon Bibi Netanyahu

00:55:27.500 the dear friend

00:55:28.180 to Charlie Kirk

00:55:28.840 to publish the

00:55:30.360 letter's entire contents

00:55:31.760 like don't start

00:55:32.420 with just two sentences

00:55:33.820 publish the entire thing

00:55:36.040 you're holding it

00:55:37.720 I'm saying

00:55:39.060 you're severely

00:55:39.680 misrepresenting

00:55:41.040 the contents

00:55:42.660 that in May

00:55:44.180 Charlie was concerned

00:55:45.600 about Israel

00:55:47.520 and their influence

00:55:49.860 on American politics

00:55:51.160 and how they were

00:55:52.700 pushing things

00:55:53.800 that he felt

00:55:54.640 were in conflict

00:55:56.240 with his beliefs

00:55:56.960 free speech

00:55:57.720 here in America

00:55:59.360 Bibi's holding it up

00:56:01.620 like Charlie

00:56:02.140 just in May

00:56:02.840 said hey you know what

00:56:03.780 I just want to write

00:56:04.760 a love letter to Israel

00:56:05.680 that's how it was presented

00:56:06.880 would you guys agree

00:56:07.580 that's not how it happened

00:56:08.920 so she's basically

00:56:12.180 suggesting he's leaving

00:56:13.380 out an important piece

00:56:14.400 of Charlie's evolution

00:56:15.280 on Israel

00:56:16.800 she went on

00:56:18.380 to talk about

00:56:19.000 and this is the first

00:56:19.620 I had heard this news

00:56:20.500 a meeting

00:56:22.660 that Charlie had

00:56:24.280 at the home

00:56:24.780 of Bill Ackman

00:56:25.700 in the Hamptons

00:56:26.660 on October 5th

00:56:30.160 sorry

00:56:30.460 August

00:56:31.220 August 5th

00:56:32.880 with a bunch

00:56:34.400 of influencers

00:56:35.680 as it was described

00:56:37.320 by Bill Ackman

00:56:38.260 later

00:56:38.580 some of whom

00:56:39.320 he said were pro-Israel

00:56:40.320 and some of whom

00:56:41.000 he said maybe not so much

00:56:42.440 and there was a meeting

00:56:44.880 at Bill Ackman's

00:56:45.720 Hamptons home

00:56:46.480 Charlie was there

00:56:47.380 so were some other

00:56:48.100 so-called influencers

00:56:49.300 and Candace

00:56:51.000 suggests that

00:56:52.640 at that meeting

00:56:53.460 Bill Ackman

00:56:54.420 pressured Charlie

00:56:55.620 who had

00:56:56.960 he was very supportive

00:56:58.340 of Israel

00:56:58.780 do not get me wrong

00:56:59.540 I mean

00:57:00.020 I know

00:57:00.920 I spoke with Charlie

00:57:02.020 directly about this

00:57:02.660 but he was starting

00:57:03.820 to have the same

00:57:04.640 doubts

00:57:06.400 questions

00:57:07.300 about whether

00:57:07.760 this could continue

00:57:08.800 without Israel 0.99

00:57:09.520 losing all of its

00:57:10.520 support in the world

00:57:11.240 as I was

00:57:12.560 and he and I

00:57:13.780 had a long talk

00:57:14.620 about our frustration

00:57:15.940 at being dubbed

00:57:16.960 anti-Zionist

00:57:18.280 or anti-Israel

00:57:19.280 or anti-Semites

00:57:20.420 even

00:57:20.700 just for those

00:57:22.540 very mild criticisms

00:57:24.380 I mean

00:57:24.900 it was

00:57:25.420 it was fucked up 0.50

00:57:26.820 okay

00:57:27.100 it really was

00:57:27.900 and he was frustrated

00:57:28.600 by that

00:57:28.920 and so was I

00:57:29.540 now Candace

00:57:31.680 had a different

00:57:32.720 characterization

00:57:33.220 of that meeting

00:57:34.140 than the one

00:57:34.720 you're going to hear

00:57:35.100 from Bill Ackman

00:57:35.820 and hers

00:57:37.500 dovetails

00:57:37.920 with this reporter

00:57:38.600 Max Blumenthal

00:57:39.540 who also reported

00:57:40.900 on the meeting

00:57:41.440 here is what

00:57:42.560 she said

00:57:43.320 again in part

00:57:44.380 in

00:57:45.260 SOT 4

00:57:47.060 where she said

00:57:47.840 they had this meeting

00:57:49.780 and she suggested

00:57:50.780 that meeting

00:57:51.200 with BB

00:57:51.860 occurred

00:57:52.580 while Charlie

00:57:53.800 was at that meeting

00:57:54.520 at Bill Ackman's

00:57:55.160 house in the Hamptons

00:57:55.780 a couple of weeks ago

00:57:58.300 before Charlie

00:57:59.040 lost his life

00:58:00.660 Charlie

00:58:02.160 was

00:58:03.200 in

00:58:03.900 the Hamptons

00:58:04.960 and he had

00:58:06.440 more than one event

00:58:09.540 but he had

00:58:10.740 essentially

00:58:12.080 what was staged

00:58:12.880 an intervention

00:58:14.040 was staged

00:58:15.440 by Bill Ackman

00:58:16.960 because Charlie's

00:58:18.820 thoughts

00:58:19.520 Charlie's rational

00:58:20.900 thoughts

00:58:21.780 about Israel

00:58:22.900 were a no-no

00:58:24.460 this is

00:58:25.380 this is not

00:58:25.940 the route

00:58:26.440 that you should

00:58:27.160 be going on

00:58:28.040 and Charlie

00:58:29.340 was surrounded

00:58:29.980 by his friends

00:58:31.200 his quote unquote

00:58:31.960 friends

00:58:32.660 Bill Ackman

00:58:34.240 was very upset

00:58:36.240 and

00:58:37.700 threats were made

00:58:39.240 it was

00:58:40.140 at this time

00:58:41.120 that BB Netanyahu 0.85

00:58:42.320 was called

00:58:43.100 and Charlie

00:58:43.720 was invited

00:58:44.500 to Israel

00:58:45.280 this was

00:58:46.240 an under duress

00:58:47.620 situation

00:58:48.340 I would say

00:58:49.240 and I know

00:58:50.220 that Charlie

00:58:50.960 was offered

00:58:51.780 a ton

00:58:52.740 of money

00:58:53.600 in this moment

00:58:54.860 a ton

00:58:55.780 of money

00:58:56.200 BB would fund

00:58:57.100 it

00:58:57.360 you know

00:58:57.880 spend tons

00:58:59.300 of money

00:59:00.340 and turning point

00:59:01.820 I guess

00:59:02.480 if it needed

00:59:03.060 to go to a

00:59:03.640 higher level

00:59:04.120 would have

00:59:04.860 gone to

00:59:05.320 an even

00:59:05.600 higher level

00:59:06.260 than it

00:59:06.520 already was

00:59:07.000 at

00:59:07.420 and I know

00:59:08.900 for a fact

00:59:09.440 that Charlie

00:59:10.080 denied

00:59:11.680 that funding

00:59:12.500 that Charlie

00:59:13.820 denied

00:59:14.680 and what BB

00:59:15.260 didn't include

00:59:15.800 there

00:59:16.160 he declined

00:59:17.820 to go to

00:59:18.860 Israel

00:59:19.300 okay

00:59:21.440 here's more

00:59:22.160 this Max

00:59:23.800 Blumenthal

00:59:24.320 reporting

00:59:26.160 he reports

00:59:26.740 he writes

00:59:27.120 for his own

00:59:27.440 outlet

00:59:27.880 called

00:59:28.160 Gray Zone

00:59:28.680 he used

00:59:28.960 to work

00:59:29.140 for the

00:59:29.320 Daily Beast

00:59:29.760 the Nation

00:59:30.280 Media Matters

00:59:31.720 which explains

00:59:32.380 why in his

00:59:32.800 reporting

00:59:33.100 he referred

00:59:33.540 to me

00:59:33.780 as an

00:59:34.020 anti-Zionist

00:59:34.920 wrong

00:59:35.660 Max

00:59:36.120 I'm totally

00:59:36.900 a Zionist

00:59:37.480 I completely

00:59:38.200 believe in

00:59:38.620 Israel's 0.75

00:59:39.000 right to

00:59:39.300 exist

00:59:39.580 and I've

00:59:40.160 defended

00:59:40.500 their right

00:59:40.940 to defend

00:59:41.340 themselves

00:59:41.700 after the

00:59:42.180 disgusting

00:59:43.080 horrendous

00:59:43.980 terrorist

00:59:44.300 attack

00:59:44.680 on them

00:59:45.120 in 2023

00:59:46.340 so get

00:59:47.000 it straight

00:59:47.440 but in

00:59:48.240 any event

00:59:48.580 he too

00:59:49.220 reported

00:59:50.460 that

00:59:50.980 the

00:59:51.960 Ackman 0.95

00:59:52.480 outing

00:59:53.260 was an

00:59:54.300 intervention

00:59:54.900 he used

00:59:55.780 during which

00:59:56.540 sources say

00:59:57.360 he and others

00:59:58.200 hammered Charlie

00:59:59.160 that Charlie

00:59:59.940 came away

01:00:00.480 fretting about

01:00:01.120 Israeli

01:00:01.580 blackmail

01:00:02.340 he says

01:00:03.720 he's spoken

01:00:04.080 to five

01:00:04.440 people with

01:00:04.880 intimate

01:00:05.160 knowledge

01:00:05.520 of Kirk's

01:00:06.180 meeting

01:00:06.520 and that

01:00:07.740 that he

01:00:09.020 he alleged

01:00:09.920 that Ackman

01:00:10.640 personally

01:00:10.980 confronted Kirk

01:00:11.880 about his

01:00:12.500 views on

01:00:12.800 Israel

01:00:13.160 an unknown

01:00:13.780 British woman

01:00:14.360 joined in

01:00:14.960 the argument

01:00:15.400 began

01:00:15.740 screaming 0.51

01:00:16.220 at Charlie

01:00:16.840 when his

01:00:18.560 host presented

01:00:19.180 him with a

01:00:19.580 detailed list

01:00:20.080 of every

01:00:20.460 offense he

01:00:20.900 supposedly

01:00:21.300 committed

01:00:21.660 against

01:00:21.960 Israel

01:00:22.340 Charlie

01:00:22.960 was

01:00:23.140 horrified

01:00:23.780 said one

01:00:24.200 person

01:00:24.740 Ackman 0.95

01:00:26.020 also allegedly

01:00:26.700 demanded that

01:00:27.260 Kirk rescind

01:00:27.920 his invitation

01:00:28.520 for Tucker

01:00:29.340 Carlson to

01:00:29.880 speak at his

01:00:30.260 upcoming

01:00:30.560 America Fest

01:00:31.440 2025

01:00:32.160 in December

01:00:33.360 Ackman 0.95

01:00:35.140 he came

01:00:36.520 under fire

01:00:36.840 too because

01:00:37.280 he had

01:00:37.620 tweeted out

01:00:38.100 recently

01:00:38.420 I feel

01:00:38.720 incredibly

01:00:39.100 privileged

01:00:39.440 to have

01:00:39.680 spent a

01:00:40.000 day and

01:00:40.300 shared a

01:00:40.580 meal with

01:00:40.860 Charlie

01:00:41.080 Kirk

01:00:41.280 in the

01:00:41.540 summer

01:00:41.800 he was

01:00:42.400 a giant

01:00:42.720 of a

01:00:42.940 man

01:00:43.140 and once

01:00:43.580 again

01:00:43.880 Candace

01:00:44.600 and others

01:00:44.840 suggesting

01:00:45.240 that's not

01:00:45.840 the whole

01:00:46.080 story

01:00:46.360 because

01:00:46.620 if he

01:00:46.820 really

01:00:47.020 was

01:00:47.280 threatening

01:00:48.020 Charlie

01:00:48.460 that's a

01:00:49.020 weird tweet

01:00:49.660 you know

01:00:50.400 an incomplete

01:00:51.040 tweet

01:00:51.460 now

01:00:52.780 Bill Ackman

01:00:54.120 responds

01:00:54.620 as only

01:00:55.180 Bill Ackman

01:00:55.780 can we be

01:00:56.220 here for

01:00:56.500 another three

01:00:57.120 hours if I

01:00:57.600 read you

01:00:57.860 his whole

01:00:58.180 response

01:00:58.540 as you

01:00:58.920 guys know

01:00:59.320 the Ackman

01:01:00.140 tweets are

01:01:00.600 just legendary

01:01:01.220 for their

01:01:01.720 49 paragraphs

01:01:03.840 minimum

01:01:04.240 but this

01:01:05.580 but this one

01:01:05.720 deserved a

01:01:06.200 bit of a

01:01:06.480 response

01:01:06.800 because he's

01:01:07.240 being accused

01:01:07.760 of something

01:01:08.140 pretty vile

01:01:08.680 and he

01:01:10.440 described these

01:01:11.280 accounts as

01:01:12.280 totally false

01:01:13.280 I think I can

01:01:14.500 easily put this

01:01:15.020 to bed

01:01:15.300 he promised I

01:01:15.880 have receipts

01:01:16.360 as they say

01:01:16.940 he did not

01:01:18.180 abide when

01:01:19.400 asked to

01:01:19.960 provide the

01:01:20.560 so-called

01:01:21.000 receipts

01:01:21.520 reports

01:01:21.960 Max Blumenthal

01:01:23.780 but Ackman

01:01:25.260 did go

01:01:25.920 on X

01:01:27.460 and said

01:01:27.960 I've been

01:01:28.280 slandered by

01:01:28.840 Candace Owens

01:01:29.500 she'll be

01:01:31.000 responding

01:01:31.480 I'm sure

01:01:31.900 shortly

01:01:33.120 of staging

01:01:34.380 an intervention

01:01:34.900 with Charlie

01:01:35.460 in which

01:01:36.120 threats were

01:01:36.600 made

01:01:36.920 he says

01:01:38.560 it's not

01:01:39.640 true

01:01:40.000 at no time

01:01:40.840 have I ever

01:01:41.440 threatened Charlie

01:01:42.060 Turning Point

01:01:42.480 or anyone

01:01:42.840 associated with

01:01:43.420 him

01:01:43.500 I've never

01:01:43.800 blackmailed

01:01:44.360 anyone

01:01:44.580 let alone

01:01:44.980 Charlie

01:01:45.340 I've never

01:01:45.720 offered Charlie

01:01:46.280 or Turning Point

01:01:46.700 any money

01:01:47.240 in an attempt

01:01:47.960 to influence

01:01:48.500 them

01:01:48.820 I connected

01:01:49.960 with Charlie

01:01:50.300 when he

01:01:50.640 had DM'd

01:01:51.200 me in late

01:01:51.940 May of this

01:01:52.380 year and

01:01:52.660 expressed

01:01:52.940 interest in

01:01:53.400 meeting me

01:01:53.900 on the

01:01:54.920 Zoom

01:01:55.140 he explained

01:01:55.600 to me

01:01:55.820 that conservatives

01:01:56.460 in particular

01:01:57.020 young ones

01:01:57.660 were getting

01:01:58.280 tired of

01:01:58.760 defending Israel

01:01:59.440 and this

01:01:59.680 is very

01:01:59.960 concerning

01:02:00.300 to him

01:02:00.720 he suggested

01:02:01.900 Bill Ackman

01:02:02.960 says Charlie

01:02:03.620 that recruiting

01:02:04.620 a group

01:02:05.060 of junior

01:02:06.160 Charlie

01:02:07.020 Kirks 0.99

01:02:07.380 who could

01:02:07.820 host

01:02:08.320 open mic

01:02:08.880 sessions

01:02:09.200 on college

01:02:09.640 campuses

01:02:10.000 would be

01:02:10.320 an effective

01:02:10.680 way to

01:02:10.980 encourage

01:02:11.280 debate

01:02:11.680 and a host

01:02:12.620 of issues

01:02:13.020 an approach

01:02:13.400 he believed

01:02:13.760 would be

01:02:13.940 worthy

01:02:14.180 of consideration

01:02:14.860 and better

01:02:16.120 enable students

01:02:16.740 to get to

01:02:17.080 the truth

01:02:17.400 I was interested

01:02:18.440 in learning

01:02:18.720 more

01:02:18.980 we scheduled

01:02:19.420 a series

01:02:19.780 of conference

01:02:20.240 calls

01:02:20.600 between

01:02:21.560 Turning Point

01:02:22.100 staff members

01:02:22.800 and members

01:02:23.180 of my team

01:02:23.780 and then

01:02:24.520 we assembled

01:02:25.200 this diverse

01:02:25.740 group of

01:02:26.120 influencers

01:02:26.540 for a day

01:02:27.460 and a half

01:02:27.740 session

01:02:28.120 we chose

01:02:28.940 the afternoon

01:02:29.360 of August

01:02:30.480 4th

01:02:31.140 to the afternoon

01:02:31.880 of August

01:02:32.560 5th

01:02:33.100 for the

01:02:33.360 convening

01:02:33.800 Charlie

01:02:34.320 and members

01:02:34.660 of my team

01:02:35.040 worked to put

01:02:35.460 together

01:02:35.780 I offered

01:02:36.800 to host

01:02:37.140 the sessions

01:02:37.720 so that I

01:02:38.420 could attend

01:02:38.920 some

01:02:40.040 Charlie

01:02:41.320 sent out

01:02:41.600 the invitations

01:02:42.080 about 35

01:02:42.680 or so

01:02:43.000 influencers

01:02:43.440 accepted

01:02:43.960 Charlie

01:02:44.280 and Turning

01:02:44.620 Point

01:02:44.760 put together

01:02:45.200 the agenda

01:02:45.780 some

01:02:46.880 some

01:02:46.900 were

01:02:47.060 critical

01:02:47.660 of

01:02:47.880 Israel

01:02:48.120 some

01:02:48.380 were

01:02:48.540 supportive

01:02:49.080 at the

01:02:50.200 end

01:02:50.360 I

01:02:50.480 sat

01:02:50.640 with

01:02:50.780 Charlie

01:02:51.040 and

01:02:51.160 members

01:02:51.320 of

01:02:51.400 my

01:02:51.520 team

01:02:51.680 we discussed

01:02:52.040 the events

01:02:52.360 of the evening

01:02:52.740 Charlie

01:02:52.980 believed he

01:02:53.420 had identified

01:02:53.880 a number

01:02:54.260 of potential

01:02:54.680 Turning Point

01:02:55.080 ambassadors

01:02:55.560 who could

01:02:56.440 launch open

01:02:56.880 mic events

01:02:57.360 on campus

01:02:57.920 and would

01:02:58.680 then follow

01:02:59.100 up with

01:02:59.480 them

01:02:59.740 we agreed

01:03:00.300 to keep

01:03:00.560 in touch

01:03:00.820 thereafter

01:03:01.200 we

01:03:01.400 corresponded

01:03:01.880 by text

01:03:02.340 over the

01:03:02.640 next few

01:03:02.960 weeks

01:03:03.280 this was

01:03:04.160 not an

01:03:04.460 intervention

01:03:04.860 to blackmail

01:03:05.380 Charlie

01:03:05.740 into adopting

01:03:06.440 certain views

01:03:07.120 on Israel

01:03:07.580 it was

01:03:07.880 nothing

01:03:08.280 of the

01:03:09.160 sort

01:03:09.440 Candace

01:03:09.840 did respond

01:03:10.480 in part

01:03:11.560 on X

01:03:11.960 last night

01:03:12.420 saying

01:03:13.260 I know

01:03:13.940 feigning

01:03:14.260 victimhood

01:03:14.860 is kind

01:03:15.300 of an

01:03:15.560 Israeli

01:03:16.020 brand

01:03:16.420 thing

01:03:16.780 but I

01:03:17.140 was

01:03:17.280 clear

01:03:17.500 that

01:03:17.700 Charlie

01:03:17.960 felt

01:03:18.280 blackmailed

01:03:18.880 by

01:03:19.040 the

01:03:19.540 offer

01:03:19.800 to

01:03:19.960 fund

01:03:20.260 TPUSA

01:03:21.020 which

01:03:21.180 he

01:03:21.320 refused

01:03:21.760 meaning

01:03:22.000 from

01:03:22.340 Netanyahu

01:03:22.920 I think

01:03:23.140 she means

01:03:23.420 here

01:03:23.600 no one

01:03:24.400 said

01:03:24.580 Bill

01:03:24.800 Ackman 0.95

01:03:25.140 blackmailed

01:03:25.680 Charlie

01:03:25.980 try to

01:03:26.600 resist

01:03:26.800 the urge

01:03:27.160 to rewrite

01:03:27.540 history

01:03:27.940 and she

01:03:29.080 goes on

01:03:29.560 saying

01:03:30.160 people

01:03:30.540 in

01:03:30.800 attendance

01:03:31.160 did

01:03:31.580 characterize

01:03:32.020 it

01:03:32.300 as

01:03:32.600 an

01:03:33.180 intervention

01:03:33.820 here

01:03:36.220 is

01:03:36.780 where

01:03:37.460 I'm

01:03:38.200 going

01:03:38.400 with

01:03:38.600 it

01:03:38.780 Andrew

01:03:41.280 Colvitt

01:03:41.680 who is

01:03:42.500 Charlie's

01:03:42.820 right-hand

01:03:43.100 man

01:03:43.360 at

01:03:43.940 Turning

01:03:44.340 Point

01:03:44.540 we know

01:03:44.800 him

01:03:44.940 well

01:03:45.160 wrote

01:03:46.860 the

01:03:47.060 following

01:03:47.380 I've

01:03:47.600 been

01:03:47.700 asked

01:03:48.040 about

01:03:48.260 this

01:03:48.460 weekend

01:03:48.800 event

01:03:49.100 with

01:03:49.340 Bill

01:03:49.500 Ackman 0.95

01:03:49.760 more

01:03:49.940 than

01:03:50.060 a few

01:03:50.240 times

01:03:50.500 now

01:03:50.680 so

01:03:50.900 I

01:03:51.040 asked

01:03:51.220 our

01:03:51.340 staff

01:03:51.620 who

01:03:51.740 were

01:03:51.820 traveling

01:03:52.100 with

01:03:52.280 Charlie

01:03:52.480 to find

01:03:52.800 out

01:03:52.900 what's

01:03:53.100 true

01:03:53.340 his

01:03:54.180 team

01:03:54.440 was

01:03:54.560 with

01:03:54.700 him

01:03:54.800 100%

01:03:55.320 of

01:03:55.400 the

01:03:55.480 time

01:03:55.680 when

01:03:55.800 he

01:03:55.880 was

01:03:56.420 not

01:03:56.600 in

01:03:56.740 his

01:03:56.880 hotel

01:03:57.140 room

01:03:57.420 here's

01:03:57.740 what

01:03:57.820 they

01:03:57.940 told

01:03:58.140 me

01:03:58.400 Bill

01:03:58.900 never

01:03:59.120 yelled

01:04:08.780 Charlie

01:04:19.580 personally

01:04:19.960 told

01:04:20.300 me

01:04:20.620 says

01:04:20.900 Andrew

01:04:21.200 he had

01:04:21.720 a very

01:04:21.960 cordial

01:04:22.700 relationship

01:04:23.140 with

01:04:23.360 Bill

01:04:23.560 and

01:04:23.720 the

01:04:23.840 event

01:04:24.040 was

01:04:24.240 productive

01:04:24.740 those

01:04:25.500 are

01:04:25.960 the

01:04:26.240 facts

01:04:26.660 well

01:04:27.220 here

01:04:27.600 is

01:04:28.280 the

01:04:28.440 reason

01:04:28.680 I

01:04:28.920 am

01:04:29.060 weighing

01:04:29.340 in

01:04:29.640 I

01:04:29.900 wasn't

01:04:30.180 there

01:04:30.380 and

01:04:30.520 I

01:04:30.580 don't

01:04:30.680 know

01:04:30.800 what

01:04:30.920 happened

01:04:31.240 but

01:04:31.900 the

01:04:32.080 day

01:04:32.440 Charlie

01:04:32.960 was

01:04:33.860 done

01:04:34.200 with

01:04:34.440 that

01:04:35.000 summit

01:04:35.440 at

01:04:36.180 Ackman's 0.97

01:04:36.660 house

01:04:36.920 he

01:04:37.400 came

01:04:37.680 on

01:04:37.840 my

01:04:38.080 show

01:04:38.340 it

01:04:38.520 was

01:04:38.640 his

01:04:39.000 last

01:04:39.280 appearance

01:04:39.600 on

01:04:39.800 the

01:04:39.900 Megyn Kelly

01:04:40.560 show

01:04:40.860 on

01:04:41.540 August

01:04:41.880 6th

01:04:43.320 and

01:04:43.580 I

01:04:43.900 asked

01:04:44.400 him

01:04:44.680 about

01:04:45.340 his

01:04:45.760 evolving

01:04:46.360 views

01:04:46.820 on

01:04:47.100 Israel

01:04:47.500 and

01:04:48.480 about

01:04:48.920 the

01:04:49.120 criticism

01:04:49.500 we

01:04:49.720 both

01:04:50.020 had

01:04:50.160 come

01:04:50.380 under

01:04:50.700 for

01:04:50.900 honestly

01:04:51.440 like

01:04:51.660 the

01:04:51.800 most

01:04:51.980 milquetoast

01:04:52.860 criticisms

01:04:53.400 of

01:04:53.760 Israel

01:04:54.160 it

01:04:54.380 was

01:04:54.600 just

01:04:54.780 crazy

01:04:55.380 I

01:04:56.320 don't

01:04:56.460 think

01:04:56.640 Charlie

01:04:56.960 actually

01:04:57.320 even

01:04:57.560 really

01:04:57.820 did

01:04:58.060 criticize

01:04:58.480 Israel

01:04:58.820 I

01:04:58.980 think

01:04:59.120 he

01:04:59.200 just

01:04:59.400 hosted

01:04:59.800 his

01:05:00.600 turning

01:05:01.120 point

01:05:01.300 event

01:05:01.480 in

01:05:01.620 July

01:05:01.960 in

01:05:02.800 which

01:05:02.960 he

01:05:03.060 had

01:05:03.200 tons

01:05:03.620 of

01:05:03.800 pro

01:05:04.000 Israel

01:05:04.280 people

01:05:04.600 tons

01:05:05.100 but

01:05:05.700 also

01:05:06.060 Dave

01:05:06.380 Smith

01:05:06.680 was

01:05:07.000 there

01:05:07.220 who's

01:05:07.480 a

01:05:07.580 critic

01:05:07.800 and

01:05:08.460 Tucker

01:05:08.700 was

01:05:08.920 there

01:05:09.120 who's

01:05:09.440 become

01:05:09.700 a bit

01:05:09.940 of a

01:05:10.140 critic

01:05:10.380 a

01:05:11.960 critic

01:05:12.260 and

01:05:13.120 he

01:05:14.260 got

01:05:14.560 so

01:05:14.880 much

01:05:15.100 shit

01:05:15.280 for

01:05:15.440 this

01:05:15.700 and

01:05:16.000 Charlie

01:05:16.280 was

01:05:16.440 really

01:05:16.900 frustrated

01:05:17.500 by

01:05:17.800 this

01:05:18.100 and

01:05:18.380 annoyed

01:05:18.920 because

01:05:19.780 no

01:05:21.160 young

01:05:21.420 person

01:05:21.740 no

01:05:21.920 person

01:05:22.180 under

01:05:22.720 30

01:05:23.040 in

01:05:23.180 America

01:05:23.440 supports

01:05:23.820 Israel

01:05:24.100 they

01:05:24.880 just

01:05:25.040 don't

01:05:25.260 look

01:05:25.400 at

01:05:25.480 the

01:05:25.580 polls

01:05:25.800 doesn't

01:05:26.640 matter

01:05:26.800 whether

01:05:26.980 you're

01:05:27.120 conservative

01:05:27.500 or not

01:05:27.800 like

01:05:27.980 virtually

01:05:28.740 none

01:05:29.000 of

01:05:29.120 them

01:05:29.280 and

01:05:29.580 that

01:05:29.840 was

01:05:30.020 Charlie's

01:05:30.480 constituency

01:05:31.080 and

01:05:31.780 Charlie

01:05:32.160 was

01:05:32.400 hearing

01:05:32.780 from

01:05:33.580 those

01:05:33.840 people

01:05:34.140 that

01:05:34.820 they

01:05:34.940 were

01:05:35.060 not

01:05:35.380 into

01:05:35.600 this

01:05:35.780 and

01:05:35.860 they

01:05:35.980 really

01:05:36.240 weren't

01:05:36.560 into

01:05:36.800 our

01:05:36.980 support

01:05:37.340 for

01:05:37.620 the

01:05:37.800 war

01:05:37.980 in

01:05:38.060 Iran

01:05:38.420 and

01:05:38.600 bombing

01:05:38.920 Iran

01:05:39.280 and

01:05:39.460 all

01:05:39.560 that

01:05:39.660 he

01:05:40.200 was

01:05:40.360 trying

01:05:40.560 to

01:05:40.680 find

01:05:40.840 a

01:05:48.920 the

01:05:49.080 same

01:05:49.360 and

01:05:49.560 both

01:05:49.860 of

01:05:49.980 us

01:05:50.120 got

01:05:50.300 treated

01:05:50.660 like

01:05:51.420 we

01:05:51.880 are

01:05:52.240 Mehdi

01:05:52.660 Hassan

01:05:53.260 and

01:05:54.140 we

01:05:54.300 were

01:05:54.480 annoyed

01:05:54.900 we

01:05:55.520 were

01:05:55.620 both

01:05:55.860 annoyed

01:05:56.200 by

01:05:56.780 that

01:05:57.020 so

01:05:58.420 we

01:05:58.600 had

01:05:58.800 the

01:05:58.940 conversation

01:05:59.380 I

01:05:59.600 did

01:05:59.740 not

01:05:59.920 tell

01:06:00.140 Charlie

01:06:00.440 we

01:06:00.580 were

01:06:00.680 going

01:06:00.780 to

01:06:00.860 discuss

01:06:01.140 it

01:06:01.360 usually

01:06:01.900 when

01:06:02.080 guests

01:06:02.260 are

01:06:02.360 coming

01:06:02.500 on

01:06:02.600 the

01:06:02.660 show

01:06:02.780 we'll

01:06:02.920 give

01:06:03.000 a

01:06:03.120 heads

01:06:03.280 up

01:06:03.420 in

01:06:04.000 case

01:06:04.140 they

01:06:04.260 want

01:06:04.380 to

01:06:04.440 study

01:06:04.620 up

01:06:04.820 on

01:06:04.940 something

01:06:05.160 whatever

01:06:05.380 these

01:06:05.740 are

01:06:05.860 probably

01:06:06.100 generally

01:06:06.460 the

01:06:06.740 8 to

01:06:07.460 10

01:06:07.580 topics

01:06:07.880 we're

01:06:08.040 going

01:06:08.120 to

01:06:08.180 hit

01:06:08.320 and

01:06:09.260 we

01:06:09.500 did

01:06:09.640 not

01:06:09.820 give

01:06:09.980 him

01:06:10.140 heads

01:06:10.360 up

01:06:10.520 on

01:06:10.640 this

01:06:10.760 because

01:06:10.900 I

01:06:11.020 didn't

01:06:11.140 even

01:06:11.280 tell

01:06:11.400 my

01:06:11.560 team

01:06:11.740 on

01:06:11.880 it

01:06:11.960 I

01:06:12.140 just

01:06:12.320 decided

01:06:12.940 to

01:06:13.120 do

01:06:13.300 it

01:06:13.500 and

01:06:14.680 here

01:06:15.020 is

01:06:15.260 a

01:06:15.400 chunk

01:06:15.620 of

01:06:16.020 how

01:06:16.300 that

01:06:16.500 went

01:06:16.720 and

01:06:18.480 something's

01:06:19.000 happening

01:06:19.340 though

01:06:19.600 with

01:06:20.300 this

01:06:20.500 whole

01:06:20.700 debate

01:06:21.020 that

01:06:21.240 is

01:06:21.360 really

01:06:21.640 bothering

01:06:22.100 me

01:06:22.380 and

01:06:22.580 I

01:06:22.720 wonder

01:06:23.140 if

01:06:23.300 you're

01:06:23.440 feeling

01:06:23.660 it

01:06:23.820 too

01:06:23.960 my

01:06:24.320 contention

01:06:24.840 here

01:06:25.100 is

01:06:25.340 that

01:06:25.560 some

01:06:26.160 in

01:06:26.620 the

01:06:26.760 pro

01:06:27.080 Israel

01:06:27.560 camp

01:06:28.040 are

01:06:28.700 so

01:06:29.220 knee

01:06:30.100 jerk

01:06:30.520 about

01:06:31.340 calling

01:06:32.260 you

01:06:32.600 anti

01:06:33.060 semitic

01:06:33.680 or

01:06:34.360 getting

01:06:35.460 deeply

01:06:35.980 offended

01:06:36.440 if

01:06:36.740 you

01:06:36.900 say

01:06:37.240 anything

01:06:37.960 that

01:06:38.700 doesn't

01:06:39.100 align

01:06:39.520 with

01:06:39.680 their

01:06:39.840 narrative

01:06:40.220 that

01:06:40.760 undermines

01:06:41.420 their

01:06:41.580 own

01:06:41.760 cause

01:06:42.120 and

01:06:42.400 I

01:06:42.520 have

01:06:42.740 to

01:06:42.860 tell

01:06:43.020 you

01:06:43.160 I

01:06:43.540 find

01:06:43.820 it

01:06:43.940 very

01:06:44.280 irritating

01:06:44.900 I'm

01:06:45.460 so

01:06:45.800 glad

01:06:46.040 you

01:06:46.200 brought

01:06:46.400 this

01:06:46.620 up

01:06:46.860 and

01:06:47.140 I

01:06:47.260 would

01:06:47.420 second

01:06:47.720 that

01:06:48.060 Megan

01:06:48.740 I

01:06:49.120 think

01:06:49.340 I

01:06:49.500 have

01:06:49.860 a

01:06:50.400 bulletproof

01:06:51.320 resume

01:06:51.680 showing

01:06:52.160 my

01:06:52.460 defense

01:06:52.940 of

01:06:53.200 Israel

01:06:53.540 both

01:06:53.800 on

01:06:54.000 campus

01:06:54.500 on

01:06:55.100 social

01:06:55.420 media

01:06:55.820 to

01:06:56.580 great

01:06:57.220 you

01:06:57.440 know

01:06:57.680 let's

01:06:58.620 just

01:06:58.760 say

01:06:58.920 mockery

01:06:59.440 and

01:06:59.620 scorn

01:06:59.980 at

01:07:00.160 times

01:07:00.520 because

01:07:00.720 I

01:07:01.380 believe

01:07:01.720 it

01:07:01.960 I

01:07:02.760 believe

01:07:03.420 in

01:07:04.060 the

01:07:04.460 scriptural

01:07:05.120 land

01:07:05.800 rights

01:07:06.200 given

01:07:06.700 to

01:07:06.920 Israel

01:07:07.320 I

01:07:07.620 believe

01:07:07.940 in

01:07:08.140 fulfillment

01:07:08.520 of

01:07:08.760 prophecy

01:07:09.260 and

01:07:10.420 again

01:07:10.940 I'm

01:07:11.120 not

01:07:11.260 a

01:07:11.380 theologian

01:07:11.920 but

01:07:12.080 I'm

01:07:12.200 a

01:07:12.320 Christian

01:07:12.640 my

01:07:12.940 life

01:07:13.240 was

01:07:13.420 changed

01:07:13.820 in

01:07:13.940 Israel

01:07:14.340 the

01:07:15.180 spiritual

01:07:15.580 energy

01:07:16.000 is

01:07:16.240 so

01:07:16.420 amazing

01:07:17.060 there

01:07:17.220 I

01:07:17.400 want

01:07:18.040 them

01:07:18.280 to

01:07:18.540 win

01:07:19.000 I've

01:07:19.440 said

01:07:19.660 that

01:07:19.920 repeatedly

01:07:20.580 and

01:07:21.760 however

01:07:22.440 Megan

01:07:22.780 you're

01:07:23.000 hitting

01:07:23.180 on

01:07:23.360 something

01:07:23.700 very

01:07:24.120 potent

01:07:24.520 and

01:07:24.680 important

01:07:25.060 now

01:07:28.620 people

01:07:28.780 know

01:07:28.940 per

01:07:29.100 Israel

01:07:29.340 world

01:07:29.520 that

01:07:29.640 have

01:07:29.740 been

01:07:29.820 very

01:07:30.080 sweet

01:07:30.560 very

01:07:31.240 kind

01:07:31.700 very

01:07:32.000 nuanced

01:07:32.600 very

01:07:32.880 Charlie

01:07:33.280 you know

01:07:34.060 you're

01:07:34.360 with us

01:07:34.820 you don't

01:07:35.040 have to

01:07:35.240 agree

01:07:35.360 all the

01:07:35.600 time

01:07:35.960 however

01:07:36.940 and I

01:07:37.900 and I

01:07:38.300 will say

01:07:38.620 this

01:07:38.940 the

01:07:39.460 behavior

01:07:39.960 by a

01:07:40.940 lot

01:07:41.440 both

01:07:42.000 privately

01:07:42.480 and

01:07:42.720 publicly

01:07:43.140 are

01:07:43.700 pushing

01:07:44.060 people

01:07:44.480 like

01:07:44.720 you

01:07:44.920 and

01:07:45.040 me

01:07:45.200 away

01:07:45.540 not

01:07:46.080 like

01:07:46.360 we're

01:07:46.520 gonna

01:07:46.620 be

01:07:46.780 pro

01:07:47.020 Hamas 0.96

01:07:47.580 not

01:07:48.200 like

01:07:48.420 we're

01:07:48.580 gonna

01:07:48.700 but

01:07:49.140 we're

01:07:49.320 like

01:07:49.540 honestly

01:07:50.000 the

01:07:50.720 way

01:07:50.940 you

01:07:51.140 are

01:07:51.300 treating

01:07:51.620 me

01:07:51.820 is

01:07:52.020 so

01:07:52.480 repulsive

01:07:53.120 I

01:07:53.660 have

01:07:53.840 text

01:07:54.160 messages

01:07:54.560 Megan

01:07:54.840 calling

01:07:55.260 me

01:07:55.440 an

01:07:55.580 anti

01:07:55.940 Semite 0.88

01:07:56.520 I

01:07:57.040 am

01:07:57.200 learning

01:07:57.580 biblical

01:07:58.100 Hebrew

01:07:58.500 and

01:07:58.720 writing

01:07:59.000 a book

01:07:59.420 on the

01:07:59.900 Shabbat

01:08:00.460 I

01:08:00.940 honor

01:08:01.380 the

01:08:01.580 Shabbat

01:08:02.060 literally

01:08:02.720 the

01:08:02.920 Jewish

01:08:03.180 Sabbath

01:08:03.560 I

01:08:04.160 visit

01:08:04.560 Israel

01:08:04.840 and

01:08:05.000 fight

01:08:05.200 for

01:08:05.400 it

01:08:05.480 it's

01:08:05.600 very

01:08:05.820 irritating

01:08:06.460 they were

01:08:08.940 coming

01:08:09.260 after you

01:08:09.680 after a

01:08:10.000 turning

01:08:10.180 point

01:08:10.520 for

01:08:10.900 among

01:08:11.100 other

01:08:11.280 things

01:08:11.560 Dave

01:08:12.280 Smith

01:08:12.600 there

01:08:12.880 Dave

01:08:13.340 Smith

01:08:13.580 is

01:08:13.740 allowed

01:08:14.180 to

01:08:14.460 criticize

01:08:15.000 Israel

01:08:15.420 you had

01:08:16.420 both

01:08:16.660 sides

01:08:17.000 the Israeli

01:08:17.900 side

01:08:18.160 you're

01:08:18.380 not

01:08:18.580 allowed

01:08:18.920 to

01:08:19.100 it's

01:08:21.200 even

01:08:21.360 worse

01:08:21.620 than

01:08:21.760 that

01:08:21.880 I

01:08:22.300 love

01:08:24.520 Israel

01:08:24.820 I

01:08:25.020 want

01:08:25.200 Israel

01:08:25.460 to

01:08:25.600 win

01:08:25.800 but

01:08:26.260 my

01:08:27.180 moral

01:08:27.740 character

01:08:28.500 is

01:08:28.860 now

01:08:29.040 being

01:08:29.240 put

01:08:29.460 into

01:08:29.600 question

01:08:30.020 Megan

01:08:30.280 not

01:08:30.840 my

01:08:31.060 decisions

01:08:31.640 not

01:08:32.880 like

01:08:33.120 hey

01:08:33.260 are you

01:08:33.480 doing

01:08:33.680 this

01:08:33.840 is

01:08:33.960 it

01:08:34.080 smart

01:08:34.360 or

01:08:34.520 is

01:08:34.620 it

01:08:34.740 dumb

01:08:35.020 but

01:08:35.500 no

01:08:35.700 I

01:08:36.320 am

01:08:36.580 a

01:08:36.720 bad

01:08:37.140 person

01:08:37.980 if

01:08:38.360 I

01:08:38.520 do

01:08:38.680 this

01:08:39.000 and

01:08:39.740 it's

01:08:39.980 I

01:08:40.260 could

01:08:40.580 go

01:08:40.700 I

01:08:40.800 mean

01:08:40.860 you

01:08:41.120 saw

01:08:41.380 it

01:08:41.500 Megan

01:08:41.680 it

01:08:41.780 was

01:08:41.860 trending

01:08:42.140 on

01:08:42.360 Twitter

01:08:42.560 thousands

01:08:43.280 of

01:08:43.560 tweets

01:08:43.820 and

01:08:44.000 text

01:08:44.220 messages

01:08:49.100 attacking

01:08:49.540 me

01:08:49.740 are

01:08:49.940 in

01:08:50.040 a

01:08:50.200 hyper

01:08:50.580 paranoid

01:08:51.100 state

01:08:51.660 because

01:08:52.840 they're

01:08:53.360 at

01:08:53.500 war

01:08:54.000 and

01:08:54.280 war

01:08:54.600 tends

01:08:54.980 to

01:08:55.180 make

01:08:55.360 things

01:08:55.620 black

01:08:55.940 and

01:08:56.120 white

01:08:56.440 and

01:08:57.060 you're

01:08:57.240 a

01:08:57.400 hammer

01:08:57.640 looking

01:08:58.000 for

01:08:58.280 a

01:08:58.440 nail 0.92

01:08:58.700 so

01:08:59.060 I'm

01:08:59.220 trying

01:08:59.680 to

01:08:59.860 be

01:09:00.040 charitable

01:09:00.400 Megan

01:09:00.700 literally

01:09:01.160 I'm

01:09:01.460 trying

01:09:01.680 to

01:09:01.840 cut

01:09:02.000 as

01:09:02.140 much

01:09:02.420 slack

01:09:02.740 as

01:09:02.920 I

01:09:03.060 can

01:09:03.320 right

01:09:03.600 what

01:09:04.300 would

01:09:04.740 it

01:09:04.860 be

01:09:05.000 like

01:09:05.300 if

01:09:05.500 all

01:09:05.680 of

01:09:05.820 a

01:09:05.860 sudden

01:09:06.120 I'm

01:09:06.840 starting

01:09:07.120 to

01:09:07.260 see

01:09:07.400 a

01:09:07.540 pattern

01:09:07.860 of

01:09:07.980 behavior

01:09:08.400 similar

01:09:08.860 to

01:09:09.140 what

01:09:09.260 my

01:09:09.420 grandparents

01:09:09.820 saw

01:09:10.220 in

01:09:10.420 1930s

01:09:11.140 Germany

01:09:11.380 online

01:09:11.860 how

01:09:12.420 would

01:09:12.580 I

01:09:12.700 behave

01:09:13.000 so

01:09:13.200 that's

01:09:13.440 like

01:09:13.560 my

01:09:13.780 charitable

01:09:14.260 kind

01:09:15.000 of

01:09:15.160 over

01:09:15.780 compensation

01:09:16.780 spirit

01:09:17.480 at the

01:09:17.960 same

01:09:18.160 time

01:09:18.480 I'm

01:09:18.620 like

01:09:18.860 but

01:09:19.980 you're

01:09:20.240 it's

01:09:20.700 it's

01:09:20.920 not

01:09:21.120 defensible

01:09:21.660 to be

01:09:22.120 dumb

01:09:22.620 right

01:09:23.580 yeah

01:09:23.840 so

01:09:24.140 and

01:09:24.420 it's

01:09:24.680 offensive

01:09:25.100 it's

01:09:25.520 offensive

01:09:25.880 to

01:09:26.060 those

01:09:26.260 of

01:09:26.380 us

01:09:26.500 who

01:09:26.600 have

01:09:26.720 been

01:09:26.960 out

01:09:27.680 there

01:09:28.000 defending

01:09:28.620 them

01:09:29.080 in

01:09:29.740 many

01:09:30.260 instances

01:09:30.660 against

01:09:31.180 critics

01:09:31.800 on our

01:09:32.140 own

01:09:32.340 side

01:09:32.780 and

01:09:33.480 now

01:09:33.700 you

01:09:33.840 have

01:09:33.980 a

01:09:34.100 couple

01:09:34.360 of

01:09:34.500 like

01:09:34.780 well

01:09:35.040 what

01:09:35.300 about

01:09:35.460 this

01:09:40.220 is

01:09:40.420 just

01:09:40.540 so

01:09:40.740 bizarre

01:09:40.940 I

01:09:41.200 don't

01:09:41.340 know

01:09:41.500 who

01:09:41.640 he

01:09:41.760 was

01:09:41.880 an

01:09:42.000 agent

01:09:42.180 for

01:09:42.400 it

01:09:42.580 might

01:09:42.740 have

01:09:42.820 been

01:09:42.920 Israel

01:09:43.200 or

01:09:43.360 an

01:09:43.440 asset

01:09:43.680 or

01:09:44.220 it

01:09:44.320 might

01:09:44.420 have

01:09:44.500 been

01:09:44.600 nobody

01:09:44.980 but

01:09:45.320 we're

01:09:45.480 allowed

01:09:45.740 to

01:09:45.980 speculate

01:09:46.380 about

01:09:46.700 that

01:09:46.920 it's

01:09:47.380 like

01:09:47.520 there's

01:09:47.740 some

01:09:47.860 rule

01:09:48.240 you can't

01:09:48.980 go there

01:09:49.460 when it

01:09:49.780 comes

01:09:50.040 to

01:09:50.300 Israel

01:09:50.740 well

01:09:51.880 you

01:09:52.120 and

01:09:52.240 I

01:09:52.360 believe

01:09:52.720 that

01:09:52.880 we're

01:09:53.060 Americans

01:09:53.720 and

01:09:53.920 Americans

01:09:54.400 first

01:09:54.900 period

01:09:55.340 end

01:09:55.640 of

01:09:55.760 story

01:09:55.940 we

01:09:56.120 are

01:09:56.240 citizens

01:09:56.620 of

01:09:56.840 this

01:09:57.180 nation

01:09:57.560 personality

01:09:58.280 types

01:09:58.720 like

01:09:59.040 you

01:09:59.300 myself

01:10:10.220 one text

01:10:10.700 or

01:10:11.180 two

01:10:11.420 texts

01:10:11.800 it

01:10:12.280 is

01:10:12.480 dozens

01:10:13.260 of

01:10:13.580 texts

01:10:14.040 then

01:10:14.980 we

01:10:16.040 start

01:10:16.360 to

01:10:16.540 say

01:10:16.720 hold

01:10:17.300 the

01:10:17.560 boat

01:10:17.780 here

01:10:18.100 I

01:10:20.640 thought

01:10:20.760 that

01:10:20.900 was

01:10:21.060 very

01:10:21.500 well

01:10:23.020 said

01:10:23.240 by

01:10:23.400 Charlie

01:10:23.700 as

01:10:24.160 usual

01:10:24.500 and

01:10:25.460 so

01:10:26.300 I

01:10:26.540 want

01:10:27.480 to

01:10:27.780 verify

01:10:28.240 that

01:10:28.680 he

01:10:28.840 was

01:10:29.000 feeling

01:10:29.440 frustrated

01:10:30.360 and

01:10:31.140 he

01:10:31.300 was

01:10:31.580 feeling

01:10:31.920 pressured

01:10:32.300 and

01:10:32.600 he

01:10:32.740 was

01:10:32.920 feeling

01:10:33.320 like

01:10:34.320 his

01:10:34.500 character

01:10:34.820 was

01:10:35.040 being

01:10:35.240 assassinated

01:10:35.900 by

01:10:36.820 people

01:10:37.580 publicly

01:10:38.140 and

01:10:38.500 privately

01:10:38.980 who

01:10:39.980 are

01:10:40.220 I

01:10:41.020 guess

01:10:41.160 consider

01:10:41.480 themselves

01:10:41.820 more

01:10:42.080 pro

01:10:42.380 Israel

01:10:42.700 than

01:10:42.940 Charlie

01:10:43.320 and

01:10:44.560 he

01:10:45.100 refused

01:10:46.240 to

01:10:46.800 back

01:10:47.040 off

01:10:47.260 of

01:10:47.400 his

01:10:47.560 criticisms

01:10:48.000 and

01:10:48.320 said

01:10:48.540 there

01:10:48.840 the

01:10:49.820 truth

01:10:50.500 which

01:10:50.760 is

01:10:51.020 in

01:10:51.460 his

01:10:51.640 case

01:10:51.860 and

01:10:52.020 in

01:10:52.160 mine

01:10:52.340 the

01:10:52.480 more

01:10:52.600 you

01:10:52.740 tell

01:10:52.900 us

01:10:53.020 we

01:10:53.140 can't

01:10:53.580 talk

01:10:53.880 about

01:10:54.060 something

01:10:54.360 the

01:10:54.500 way

01:10:54.600 we

01:10:54.760 want

01:10:54.940 to

01:10:55.020 talk

01:10:55.200 about

01:10:55.380 it

01:10:55.480 the

01:10:55.600 more

01:10:55.760 we're

01:10:56.020 likely

01:10:56.280 to

01:10:56.440 do

01:10:56.600 it

01:10:56.780 and

01:10:57.920 to

01:10:58.800 me

01:10:58.900 this

01:10:59.060 whole

01:10:59.200 thing

01:10:59.360 is

01:10:59.560 very

01:11:00.220 it's

01:11:00.960 very

01:11:01.120 frustrating

01:11:01.620 because

01:11:02.840 he

01:11:04.520 was

01:11:04.640 pretty

01:11:04.820 clear

01:11:09.980 and

01:11:10.160 young

01:11:10.620 conservatives

01:11:11.120 I

01:11:11.340 think

01:11:11.520 who

01:11:12.080 were

01:11:12.560 feeling

01:11:13.840 the

01:11:14.020 same

01:11:14.160 frustrations

01:11:14.720 and

01:11:16.000 I

01:11:17.360 got

01:11:17.640 it's

01:11:17.820 a

01:11:17.940 long

01:11:18.220 winded

01:11:18.940 way

01:11:19.200 of

01:11:19.360 saying

01:11:19.700 can

01:11:20.160 I

01:11:20.260 tell

01:11:20.420 you

01:11:20.540 what

01:11:20.760 like

01:11:21.140 I

01:11:21.880 understand

01:11:22.380 Candace's

01:11:22.920 point

01:11:23.240 it

01:11:23.900 is

01:11:24.220 it

01:11:24.760 is

01:11:25.200 it's

01:11:26.240 not

01:11:26.460 okay

01:11:26.780 for

01:11:26.980 him

01:11:27.120 to

01:11:27.240 come

01:11:27.400 out

01:11:27.640 just

01:11:28.080 read

01:11:28.300 part

01:11:28.520 of

01:11:28.600 the

01:11:28.700 letter

01:11:28.920 and

01:11:29.840 let

01:11:30.100 that

01:11:30.320 be

01:11:30.480 that

01:11:30.720 there

01:11:30.940 were

01:11:31.200 there

01:11:31.400 was

01:11:31.680 an

01:11:31.780 evolving

01:11:32.100 feeling

01:11:32.580 by

01:11:33.040 Charlie

01:11:33.380 on

01:11:33.620 Israel

01:11:33.940 that

01:11:34.220 is

01:11:34.360 a

01:11:34.460 lot

01:11:34.580 more

01:11:34.760 complicated

01:11:35.260 than

01:11:39.980 everybody

01:11:40.940 wants

01:11:41.200 to

01:11:41.360 spin

01:11:41.600 it

01:11:41.800 in

01:11:42.260 a

01:11:42.340 way

01:11:42.460 that

01:11:42.640 makes

01:11:42.880 them

01:11:43.120 sound

01:11:43.800 closer

01:11:44.240 to

01:11:44.420 Charlie

01:11:44.760 and make

01:11:45.100 Charlie

01:11:45.540 sound

01:11:46.180 closer

01:11:46.540 to

01:11:46.700 their

01:11:46.900 cause

01:11:47.340 because

01:11:48.160 Charlie's

01:11:48.720 so

01:11:50.040 influential

01:11:50.500 right now

01:11:51.040 and so

01:11:51.400 important

01:11:51.760 to us

01:11:52.220 but I

01:11:53.700 mean

01:11:54.020 I also

01:11:54.680 object

01:11:55.020 to the

01:11:55.340 extent

01:11:55.580 he

01:11:55.840 was

01:11:56.020 used

01:11:56.480 to

01:11:56.800 advance

01:11:57.100 a

01:11:57.280 political

01:11:57.640 narrative

01:11:58.280 in that

01:11:59.220 Fox

01:11:59.460 News

01:11:59.620 interview

01:11:59.880 I

01:12:00.120 see

01:12:00.320 why

01:12:00.500 she's

01:12:00.680 upset

01:12:00.980 your

01:12:01.380 thoughts

01:12:01.620 guys

01:12:01.880 yeah

01:12:05.280 I

01:12:05.460 might

01:12:05.700 disagree

01:12:05.960 with you

01:12:06.160 on this

01:12:06.360 one

01:12:06.460 a

01:12:06.560 little

01:12:06.640 bit

01:12:06.860 that

01:12:07.560 and

01:12:08.020 a

01:12:08.620 couple

01:12:09.980 strike

01:12:10.940 me

01:12:11.180 is

01:12:12.020 that

01:12:12.340 you

01:12:13.500 know

01:12:13.740 the

01:12:14.100 turning

01:12:14.440 point

01:12:14.700 people

01:12:15.060 who

01:12:15.460 gave

01:12:15.880 a

01:12:16.080 very

01:12:16.300 different

01:12:16.760 account

01:12:17.280 of

01:12:18.180 that

01:12:18.560 meeting

01:12:19.360 and

01:12:20.780 you

01:12:20.880 know

01:12:20.980 when

01:12:21.240 it

01:12:21.340 comes

01:12:21.580 to

01:12:21.860 Israel

01:12:22.760 and

01:12:23.240 when

01:12:23.360 it

01:12:23.460 comes

01:12:23.660 to

01:12:23.840 Jews

01:12:24.280 you

01:12:25.460 know

01:12:25.620 these

01:12:26.060 meetings

01:12:26.700 people

01:12:27.120 come

01:12:27.400 over

01:12:27.560 for

01:12:27.760 dinner

01:12:28.120 we're

01:12:28.800 going

01:12:28.900 to

01:12:28.920 have

01:12:29.080 a

01:12:29.220 little

01:12:29.360 bowl

01:12:29.620 session

01:12:29.960 about

01:12:30.220 an

01:12:30.400 issue

01:12:30.720 and

01:12:31.460 you

01:12:31.560 want

01:12:31.820 to

01:12:32.040 talk

01:12:32.340 about

01:12:32.520 it

01:12:32.620 I've

01:12:32.800 been

01:12:32.920 involved

01:12:33.240 in

01:12:33.420 these

01:12:33.780 things

01:12:34.500 when

01:12:35.380 it

01:12:35.480 comes

01:12:35.640 to

01:12:35.740 a

01:12:36.060 million

01:12:36.280 different

01:12:36.600 issues

01:12:37.000 it

01:12:37.760 becomes

01:12:38.040 conspiratorial

01:12:39.100 when

01:12:39.680 Israel

01:12:40.740 is

01:12:40.920 involved

01:12:41.320 and

01:12:41.640 people

01:12:42.180 who

01:12:42.560 have

01:12:43.880 Israel

01:12:44.160 back

01:12:44.580 it

01:12:44.860 can

01:12:45.180 and

01:12:45.420 I

01:12:45.860 think

01:12:46.120 that

01:12:46.340 Candace

01:12:46.740 Owens

01:12:47.000 is a

01:12:48.300 very

01:12:48.920 dodgy

01:12:50.940 witness

01:12:51.340 in this

01:12:51.780 considering

01:12:52.260 she doesn't

01:12:53.160 have a ton

01:12:53.460 of credibility

01:12:54.060 amongst

01:12:55.280 almost

01:12:56.000 let me

01:12:56.720 say this

01:12:57.700 in Candace's

01:12:58.640 defense

01:12:59.080 first of all

01:13:00.980 she's

01:13:01.240 brilliant

01:13:01.660 Candace

01:13:02.020 is

01:13:02.180 brilliant

01:13:02.440 I

01:13:02.680 realize

01:13:02.900 she's

01:13:03.120 controversial

01:13:03.520 but

01:13:04.180 she is

01:13:04.440 very

01:13:04.740 smart

01:13:05.100 she's

01:13:06.520 too

01:13:06.760 smart

01:13:07.040 to

01:13:07.200 F

01:13:07.360 around

01:13:07.600 and

01:13:07.760 say

01:13:07.880 that

01:13:08.020 she's

01:13:08.260 got

01:13:08.480 the

01:13:09.560 letter

01:13:10.040 she

01:13:10.640 seems

01:13:10.960 to

01:13:11.080 have

01:13:11.260 either

01:13:11.720 the

01:13:11.900 letter

01:13:12.100 or

01:13:12.260 recordings

01:13:12.640 that

01:13:13.340 she

01:13:14.280 doesn't

01:13:14.540 have

01:13:14.760 she

01:13:14.960 just

01:13:15.160 tweeted

01:13:15.400 out

01:13:15.740 more

01:13:17.040 is

01:13:17.160 going

01:13:17.260 to

01:13:17.320 come

01:13:17.480 out

01:13:17.720 the

01:13:18.180 truth

01:13:18.400 is

01:13:18.540 inevitable

01:13:18.920 they're

01:13:19.560 lying

01:13:19.800 but

01:13:19.940 rest

01:13:20.140 assured

01:13:20.400 these

01:13:20.620 people

01:13:20.860 were

01:13:21.020 deranged

01:13:21.360 enough

01:13:21.600 to put

01:13:21.860 their

01:13:22.000 anger

01:13:22.260 and

01:13:22.420 demands

01:13:22.700 in

01:13:22.840 writing

01:13:23.100 now

01:13:23.580 I

01:13:23.700 don't

01:13:24.280 that

01:13:24.480 doesn't

01:13:24.740 mean

01:13:24.860 it's

01:13:25.020 Bill

01:13:25.160 Ackman 0.95

01:13:25.480 I

01:13:25.940 don't

01:13:26.100 know

01:13:26.320 whether

01:13:35.100 at

01:13:36.060 the

01:13:36.200 Bill

01:13:36.340 Ackman 0.95

01:13:36.600 summit

01:13:36.960 but

01:13:38.420 anyway

01:13:38.620 keep

01:13:38.840 going

01:13:39.100 yeah

01:13:39.360 I

01:13:39.660 interrupted

01:13:39.900 you

01:13:40.080 I

01:13:40.240 mean

01:13:40.640 just

01:13:40.820 what

01:13:40.980 we

01:13:41.100 do

01:13:41.280 as

01:13:41.440 journalists

01:13:41.780 though

01:13:42.080 is

01:13:42.340 we

01:13:42.500 give

01:13:42.800 people's

01:13:43.260 opinions

01:13:43.760 certain

01:13:44.540 weights

01:13:45.000 depending

01:13:45.480 on how

01:13:46.060 credible

01:13:46.420 they are

01:13:46.760 on other

01:13:47.120 things

01:13:47.480 and

01:13:47.640 you know

01:13:47.800 the last

01:13:48.080 thing

01:13:48.220 I

01:13:48.400 saw

01:13:48.580 her

01:13:48.820 talking

01:13:49.640 about

01:13:50.060 was

01:13:50.440 whether

01:13:50.660 or not

01:13:51.000 Brigitte

01:13:51.500 Macron

01:13:51.920 was a

01:13:52.600 member

01:13:52.800 of the

01:13:53.220 Stanford

01:13:53.640 prison

01:13:54.100 experiment

01:13:54.700 and

01:13:55.340 talking

01:13:55.640 about

01:13:55.920 Frankists 0.99

01:13:56.880 and

01:13:57.200 Stalin 0.57

01:13:57.660 being

01:13:58.020 Jewish

01:13:58.460 and

01:13:58.660 this

01:13:58.860 singular

01:13:59.580 obsession

01:14:00.140 these

01:14:00.440 days

01:14:00.760 with

01:14:01.140 Israel

01:14:01.620 you

01:14:02.400 know

01:14:02.480 we

01:14:02.600 talked

01:14:02.800 earlier

01:14:03.140 about

01:14:03.580 how

01:14:04.080 you

01:14:04.620 know

01:14:04.760 when

01:14:05.040 it

01:14:05.180 came

01:14:05.520 to

01:14:06.400 Mamdani

01:14:07.140 let me

01:14:08.920 just

01:14:09.040 ask

01:14:09.200 you

01:14:09.300 something

01:14:09.500 Moynihan

01:14:10.620 okay

01:14:10.940 and

01:14:11.720 I

01:14:11.860 understand

01:14:12.080 like

01:14:12.300 we

01:14:12.460 did

01:14:13.120 a

01:14:13.260 legal

01:14:13.500 debate

01:14:13.740 on

01:14:13.880 the

01:14:13.980 Macron

01:14:14.180 thing

01:14:14.520 it's

01:14:15.320 an

01:14:15.400 eight

01:14:15.540 part

01:14:15.720 series

01:14:16.020 that

01:14:16.200 you

01:14:16.280 can

01:14:16.400 watch

01:14:16.580 on

01:14:16.700 Candice's

01:14:17.080 feed

01:14:17.320 that's

01:14:18.420 what

01:14:18.560 that's

01:14:19.160 where

01:14:19.340 the

01:14:20.100 references

01:14:20.420 to

01:14:20.640 Brigitte

01:14:20.860 come

01:14:21.080 from

01:14:21.320 but

01:14:22.020 yeah

01:14:22.260 you

01:14:24.880 don't

01:14:25.080 have

01:14:25.360 to

01:14:25.620 trust

01:14:26.400 her

01:14:26.760 if

01:14:26.940 Candice

01:14:27.400 is

01:14:27.520 not

01:14:27.640 your

01:14:27.760 cup

01:14:27.920 of

01:14:28.000 tea

01:14:28.080 that's

01:14:28.320 fine

01:14:28.560 you

01:14:28.760 know

01:14:28.840 I'm

01:14:29.280 not

01:14:29.400 everybody's

01:14:29.740 cup

01:14:29.880 of

01:14:29.980 tea

01:14:30.060 she's

01:14:30.260 not

01:14:30.380 everybody's

01:14:30.840 cup

01:14:31.240 of

01:14:31.300 tea

01:14:31.380 but

01:14:31.560 I

01:14:32.100 just

01:14:32.260 played

01:14:32.500 you

01:14:32.640 a

01:14:32.740 four

01:14:32.860 minute

01:14:33.020 exchange

01:14:33.440 of

01:14:33.760 Charlie

01:14:34.220 saying

01:14:35.660 no

01:14:35.860 I was

01:14:36.860 getting

01:14:37.020 to

01:14:37.180 that

01:14:37.360 and I

01:14:37.620 want

01:14:37.760 to

01:14:37.860 address

01:14:38.740 that

01:14:38.900 because

01:14:39.120 I

01:14:39.280 think

01:14:39.440 that's

01:14:39.700 totally

01:14:40.020 normal

01:14:40.540 and

01:14:41.140 as

01:14:41.780 you

01:14:41.880 point

01:14:42.120 out

01:14:42.240 with

01:14:42.360 polling

01:14:42.580 I

01:14:42.700 just

01:14:42.840 did

01:14:42.920 a

01:14:43.020 show

01:14:43.140 the

01:14:43.260 other

01:14:43.360 day

01:14:43.480 with

01:14:43.600 Alan

01:14:43.860 Dershowitz

01:14:44.280 and

01:14:44.980 I

01:14:45.100 don't

01:14:57.520 was

01:14:57.860 not

01:14:58.080 to

01:14:58.260 say

01:14:58.420 no

01:14:58.580 that's

01:14:58.820 not

01:14:58.960 true

01:14:59.100 he

01:14:59.220 said

01:14:59.400 there's

01:14:59.940 polling

01:15:00.680 in which

01:15:01.120 Israel

01:15:01.520 is the

01:15:01.800 least

01:15:02.160 popular

01:15:02.640 country

01:15:03.080 on

01:15:03.420 earth

01:15:03.860 and

01:15:04.680 the

01:15:05.080 number

01:15:05.320 one

01:15:05.620 was

01:15:05.800 Germany

01:15:06.540 and

01:15:07.100 Japan

01:15:07.520 and

01:15:07.820 he

01:15:07.920 made

01:15:08.080 some

01:15:08.260 joke

01:15:08.500 about

01:15:08.720 them

01:15:09.220 being

01:15:09.420 the

01:15:09.580 axis

01:15:09.980 in

01:15:10.640 Israel

01:15:10.860 on

01:15:11.000 the

01:15:11.060 other

01:15:11.200 end

01:15:11.380 of

01:15:11.480 that

01:15:11.620 that's

01:15:11.980 completely

01:15:12.580 normal

01:15:13.100 to have

01:15:13.380 this

01:15:13.480 conversation

01:15:13.800 but

01:15:13.960 Charlie

01:15:14.260 Kirk

01:15:15.060 says

01:15:15.400 something

01:15:15.740 that

01:15:15.980 is

01:15:16.080 very

01:15:16.260 different

01:15:16.520 than

01:15:16.700 what

01:15:16.980 Candace

01:15:17.620 Owen

01:15:17.780 feels

01:15:18.060 about

01:15:18.280 this

01:15:18.440 stuff

01:15:18.640 he

01:15:19.320 says

01:15:19.600 during

01:15:20.080 that

01:15:20.480 conversation

01:15:21.020 with

01:15:21.180 you

01:15:21.320 that

01:15:21.860 he

01:15:22.000 is

01:15:22.180 a

01:15:22.380 stalwart

01:15:22.920 Zionist 1.00

01:15:23.600 he

01:15:23.720 doesn't

01:15:23.960 like

01:15:24.180 people

01:15:24.680 questioning

01:15:25.620 his

01:15:26.040 commitment

01:15:26.660 to

01:15:27.000 that

01:15:27.220 idea

01:15:27.760 or

01:15:28.540 going

01:15:28.980 so

01:15:29.240 far

01:15:29.540 as

01:15:29.680 to

01:15:29.780 calling

01:15:29.980 him

01:15:30.120 an

01:15:30.220 anti

01:15:30.440 Semite 0.88

01:15:30.760 or

01:15:30.840 something

01:15:30.980 I

01:15:31.100 don't

01:15:31.200 know

01:15:31.280 who

01:15:31.340 these

01:15:31.440 people

01:15:31.640 are

01:15:31.980 but

01:15:32.480 that

01:15:32.680 is

01:15:32.800 not

01:15:33.420 surprising

01:15:34.100 from

01:15:34.340 conservatives

01:15:34.820 who

01:15:35.060 have

01:15:35.160 been

01:15:35.700 denouncing

01:15:37.140 people

01:15:37.500 rightfully

01:15:38.060 for

01:15:38.420 ending

01:15:39.040 debate

01:15:39.360 by

01:15:39.560 calling

01:15:40.220 people

01:15:40.420 racist

01:15:40.860 for

01:15:41.220 years

01:15:41.580 so

01:15:41.780 that's

01:15:42.000 in

01:15:42.800 kind

01:15:43.240 but

01:15:43.520 I

01:15:44.520 wonder

01:15:45.160 why

01:15:49.600 the

01:15:49.720 number

01:15:50.040 of

01:15:50.280 people

01:15:50.580 that

01:15:50.780 were

01:15:50.920 talking

01:15:51.340 about

01:15:51.820 Israel

01:15:52.260 that's

01:15:52.620 the

01:15:52.760 thing

01:15:52.900 that

01:15:53.060 concerns

01:15:53.440 me

01:15:53.620 about

01:15:53.820 why

01:15:54.200 this

01:15:54.540 is

01:15:54.700 coming

01:15:54.940 up

01:15:55.120 why

01:15:55.740 is

01:15:55.940 it

01:15:56.020 about

01:15:56.200 the

01:15:56.360 pet

01:15:56.600 issue

01:15:56.920 that

01:15:57.120 she's

01:15:57.340 been

01:15:57.480 talking

01:15:57.760 about

01:15:58.100 I

01:15:58.620 think

01:15:59.160 obsessively

01:16:00.180 for

01:16:00.860 every

01:16:01.240 time

01:16:01.520 I

01:16:01.700 tune

01:16:01.980 in

01:16:02.340 in

01:16:02.500 these

01:16:03.120 totally

01:16:03.480 crazy

01:16:03.860 ways

01:16:04.200 I

01:16:04.320 mean

01:16:04.420 the

01:16:04.880 guy

01:16:05.060 Ian

01:16:05.360 Carroll

01:16:05.520 I

01:16:05.640 don't

01:16:05.800 know

01:16:05.960 if

01:16:06.040 this

01:16:06.160 is

01:16:06.380 true

01:16:06.540 of

01:16:06.760 Candace

01:16:07.300 some

01:16:09.100 people

01:16:09.300 were

01:16:09.640 wondering

01:16:10.460 some

01:16:10.940 people

01:16:11.380 obviously

01:16:12.180 were

01:16:13.840 wondering

01:16:14.560 whether

01:16:15.220 Israel

01:16:15.680 had a

01:16:16.020 hand

01:16:16.220 in

01:16:16.340 this

01:16:16.540 I

01:16:16.660 mean

01:16:16.740 that's

01:16:16.980 clearly

01:16:17.240 why

01:16:17.700 it's

01:16:18.520 come

01:16:18.780 up

01:16:19.040 and

01:16:19.360 there's

01:16:19.640 zero

01:16:20.140 evidence

01:16:20.660 of

01:16:20.860 that

01:16:20.960 Yahoo

01:16:21.040 is

01:16:21.220 responding

01:16:21.740 I

01:16:22.120 mean

01:16:22.280 I

01:16:22.480 don't

01:16:22.880 think

01:16:23.140 that

01:16:23.340 in

01:16:23.560 any

01:16:23.840 other

01:16:24.060 circumstance

01:16:24.640 if

01:16:25.400 this

01:16:25.620 had

01:16:25.760 not

01:16:25.980 taken

01:16:26.580 over

01:16:26.940 like

01:16:27.180 a

01:16:27.320 prairie

01:16:27.660 fire

01:16:28.000 on

01:16:28.180 the

01:16:28.280 internet

01:16:28.600 this

01:16:29.360 guy

01:16:29.560 Ian

01:16:29.820 Carroll

01:16:30.120 was

01:16:30.240 a

01:16:31.220 guest

01:16:31.500 host

01:16:31.780 of

01:16:32.020 Candace

01:16:33.000 show

01:16:33.400 this

01:16:33.740 summer

01:16:34.120 was

01:16:34.840 on

01:16:35.180 Twitter

01:16:35.740 saying

01:16:36.160 the

01:16:36.740 Israelis

01:16:37.160 did

01:16:37.680 this

01:16:38.000 and

01:16:38.160 even

01:16:38.440 you

01:16:38.700 know

01:16:38.780 you

01:16:38.900 have

01:16:39.000 someone

01:16:39.160 like

01:16:39.340 Dave

01:16:39.540 Smith

01:16:39.780 who

01:16:40.160 has

01:16:40.460 a lot

01:16:40.760 of

01:16:40.840 problems

01:16:41.120 with

01:16:41.340 me

01:16:41.600 and

01:16:42.420 we

01:16:42.660 disagree

01:16:42.980 on

01:16:43.220 almost

01:16:43.460 everything

01:16:43.840 but

01:16:44.060 even

01:16:44.360 he

01:16:44.480 responded

01:16:44.860 he's

01:16:44.980 like

01:16:45.080 dude

01:16:45.220 what

01:16:45.380 are

01:16:45.460 you

01:16:45.560 talking

01:16:46.000 about

01:16:46.260 where

01:16:46.500 is

01:16:46.660 this

01:16:46.820 crazy

01:16:47.620 talk

01:16:48.100 it's

01:16:48.480 crazy

01:16:48.860 and

01:16:49.140 like

01:16:49.340 even

01:16:49.580 Alex

01:16:50.020 Jones

01:16:50.440 was

01:16:50.660 like

01:16:50.840 guys

01:16:51.060 all

01:16:51.420 of

01:16:51.540 this

01:16:51.640 conversation

01:16:52.200 about

01:16:52.500 this

01:16:52.700 why

01:16:53.400 are

01:16:53.580 we

01:16:53.720 having

01:16:53.900 a

01:16:54.060 conversation

01:16:54.560 about

01:16:55.040 Charlie

01:16:55.580 Kirk's

01:16:56.100 commitment

01:16:56.540 to

01:16:56.880 Israel

01:16:57.300 immediately

01:16:58.160 after

01:16:58.700 he

01:16:59.000 was

01:16:59.140 assassinated

01:16:59.760 because

01:17:00.000 there's

01:17:00.280 so many

01:17:00.660 ghouls

01:17:01.260 out there

01:17:01.640 who

01:17:02.080 were

01:17:02.200 trying

01:17:02.560 to

01:17:02.740 suggest

01:17:03.080 that

01:17:03.220 maybe

01:17:03.640 because

01:17:04.280 he

01:17:04.420 was

01:17:04.560 wavering

01:17:05.180 on

01:17:05.380 this

01:17:05.580 and

01:17:06.220 as

01:17:06.500 Charlie

01:17:06.720 said

01:17:06.940 to

01:17:07.080 you

01:17:07.200 I

01:17:07.360 didn't

01:17:07.600 know

01:17:07.780 the

01:17:07.920 guy

01:17:08.200 I

01:17:08.440 met

01:17:08.980 him

01:17:09.080 one

01:17:09.420 time

01:17:09.740 he

01:17:10.420 said

01:17:12.360 he

01:17:12.500 didn't

01:17:12.760 understand

01:17:13.060 under

01:17:13.400 that

01:17:13.580 theory

01:17:13.900 here's

01:17:14.680 what

01:17:14.780 I

01:17:14.860 don't

01:17:14.980 get

01:17:15.160 under

01:17:15.400 that

01:17:15.600 theory

01:17:15.940 like

01:17:16.980 Candace

01:17:17.320 is

01:17:17.460 very

01:17:17.660 influential

01:17:18.120 she's

01:17:18.440 got

01:17:18.540 a

01:17:18.680 very

01:17:18.880 popular

01:17:19.260 show

01:17:19.760 Tucker

01:17:21.660 same

01:17:22.760 and

01:17:23.660 obviously

01:17:24.220 neither

01:17:24.560 one

01:17:24.880 is

01:17:25.300 feeling

01:17:26.040 very

01:17:26.320 supportive

01:17:26.700 of

01:17:26.920 Israel

01:17:27.260 in

01:17:27.480 this

01:17:27.620 war

01:17:27.900 that's

01:17:28.280 for

01:17:28.420 sure

01:17:28.660 in

01:17:28.920 Tucker's

01:17:29.220 case

01:17:29.460 and

01:17:29.720 for

01:17:29.880 sure

01:17:30.040 in

01:17:30.200 Candace's

01:17:30.620 case

01:17:30.840 and

01:17:30.980 whether

01:17:31.120 it

01:17:31.240 goes

01:17:31.380 beyond

01:17:31.640 that

01:17:31.860 that's

01:17:32.720 up to

01:17:32.920 other

01:17:33.060 people

01:17:33.240 to

01:17:33.360 decide

01:17:33.640 I

01:17:33.900 don't

01:17:34.100 listen

01:17:34.700 to

01:17:34.820 their

01:17:34.940 shows

01:17:35.120 every

01:17:35.300 day

01:17:35.520 that

01:17:38.920 like

01:17:39.840 those

01:17:40.920 two

01:17:41.200 would

01:17:41.460 have

01:17:41.580 been

01:17:41.740 the

01:17:41.960 obvious

01:17:42.340 targets

01:17:43.240 you

01:17:43.540 know

01:17:43.620 I

01:17:43.740 don't

01:17:43.920 I'm

01:17:44.220 not

01:17:44.320 trying

01:17:44.460 to

01:17:44.540 get

01:17:44.680 them

01:17:44.920 endangered

01:17:45.460 God

01:17:45.760 knows

01:17:45.980 I'm

01:17:46.160 just

01:17:46.320 saying

01:17:46.540 I

01:17:47.200 don't

01:17:47.320 understand

01:17:47.660 Tucker

01:17:48.220 did

01:17:48.480 suggest

01:17:48.820 to

01:17:48.940 me

01:17:49.040 that

01:17:49.200 he

01:17:49.400 has

01:17:50.000 been

01:17:50.220 under

01:17:50.520 threat

01:17:50.740 he

01:17:50.880 didn't

01:17:51.040 say

01:17:51.180 from

01:17:51.340 Israel

01:17:51.600 but

01:17:51.800 he's

01:17:52.000 definitely

01:17:52.300 been

01:17:52.520 under

01:17:52.700 threat

01:17:52.920 I

01:17:53.520 don't

01:17:53.640 know

01:17:53.760 I

01:17:53.880 just

01:17:54.040 don't

01:17:54.240 get

01:17:54.400 like

01:17:54.620 there

01:17:55.080 would

01:17:55.360 be

01:17:55.440 no

01:17:55.620 incentive

01:17:56.040 I

01:17:56.260 get

01:17:56.600 the

01:17:56.820 logic

01:17:57.240 like

01:17:57.500 Charlie

01:17:58.660 starting

01:17:59.060 to

01:17:59.240 lose

01:18:00.140 Charlie

01:18:00.580 so

01:18:00.880 like

01:18:01.100 we've

01:18:01.280 got

01:18:01.380 to

01:18:01.500 take

01:18:01.660 him

01:18:01.780 out

01:18:02.040 if

01:18:02.640 you're

01:18:02.840 really

01:18:03.040 thinking

01:18:03.360 Israel

01:18:03.740 is

01:18:03.940 like

01:18:04.100 at

01:18:04.220 that

01:18:04.440 level

01:18:04.760 of

01:18:05.060 you

01:18:05.320 know

01:18:05.460 but

01:18:05.660 to

01:18:06.020 me

01:18:06.140 it

01:18:06.240 seems

01:18:06.620 like

01:18:17.660 much

01:18:17.960 conspiracy

01:18:18.380 theory

01:18:18.840 recently

01:18:19.780 from

01:18:20.240 9-11

01:18:20.860 to

01:18:21.460 you know

01:18:21.840 flat

01:18:22.200 earthers

01:18:22.580 and

01:18:22.900 dinosaurs

01:18:23.500 and

01:18:24.060 Brigitte

01:18:24.720 Macron

01:18:25.080 and

01:18:25.400 it's

01:18:25.560 just

01:18:25.720 I

01:18:25.920 think

01:18:29.040 Brigitte

01:18:29.400 Macron

01:18:29.720 is

01:18:30.180 the

01:18:30.560 very

01:18:31.100 very

01:18:31.420 weird

01:18:32.020 wife

01:18:32.400 of

01:18:32.520 Emmanuel

01:18:32.800 Macron

01:18:33.060 who

01:18:33.340 started

01:18:33.720 hooking

01:18:33.960 up

01:18:34.120 with him

01:18:34.260 when

01:18:34.360 he

01:18:34.400 was

01:18:34.520 like

01:18:34.660 14

01:18:35.140 that's

01:18:35.960 weird

01:18:36.180 enough

01:18:36.540 we can

01:18:36.860 that

01:18:37.300 actually

01:18:41.360 is so

01:18:41.680 crazy

01:18:42.080 like

01:18:42.360 you know

01:18:42.920 I told

01:18:43.280 the audience

01:18:43.640 when we

01:18:43.840 talked about

01:18:44.160 Candace's

01:18:44.520 series

01:18:44.720 on that

01:18:44.980 I

01:18:45.180 did

01:18:45.620 not

01:18:45.800 watch

01:18:46.100 it

01:18:46.200 for

01:18:46.320 the

01:18:46.420 full

01:18:46.560 eight

01:18:46.700 hours

01:18:46.940 but

01:18:48.020 I

01:18:48.140 did

01:18:48.320 watch

01:18:48.520 a lot

01:18:48.760 about

01:18:48.980 her

01:18:50.020 relationship

01:18:50.640 with

01:18:51.100 Emmanuel

01:18:52.500 and how

01:18:52.880 it got

01:18:53.100 started

01:18:53.360 which I

01:18:53.700 did

01:18:53.900 know

01:18:54.080 but I

01:18:54.280 had

01:18:54.380 forgotten

01:18:54.680 about

01:18:55.020 she was

01:18:55.680 his

01:18:55.760 teacher

01:18:55.940 she was

01:18:56.320 I think

01:18:56.580 39

01:18:57.080 and he

01:18:57.560 was

01:18:57.720 14

01:18:58.380 or 15

01:18:59.460 at the

01:18:59.820 most

01:19:00.220 and

01:19:00.880 like

01:19:01.060 he

01:19:01.180 got

01:19:01.380 his

01:19:01.780 parents

01:19:02.040 ejected

01:19:02.460 him

01:19:02.560 from

01:19:02.680 the

01:19:02.800 school

01:19:03.040 because

01:19:03.200 they

01:19:03.340 knew

01:19:03.480 there

01:19:03.640 was

01:19:03.740 something

01:19:03.940 inappropriate

01:19:04.580 between

01:19:05.100 them

01:19:05.280 and she

01:19:05.520 always

01:19:05.780 claimed

01:19:06.000 oh never

01:19:06.360 until he

01:19:06.740 was

01:19:06.920 older

01:19:07.700 but

01:19:08.320 there

01:19:09.120 seemed

01:19:09.340 to be

01:19:09.580 a lot

01:19:09.780 of

01:19:09.880 smoke

01:19:10.120 very

01:19:10.920 creepy

01:19:11.320 the whole

01:19:11.580 thing

01:19:11.760 is very

01:19:12.040 creepy

01:19:12.340 in any

01:19:12.680 way

01:19:12.780 so we'll

01:19:13.800 give them

01:19:14.040 credit

01:19:14.240 for that

01:19:15.020 I will

01:19:17.440 say though

01:19:18.000 my own

01:19:18.960 takeaway

01:19:19.240 from this

01:19:19.760 is

01:19:20.240 Israel

01:19:21.660 needs to

01:19:22.360 wrap up

01:19:22.820 this war

01:19:23.360 and I

01:19:23.880 know

01:19:24.240 they have

01:19:24.760 hostages

01:19:25.260 who are

01:19:25.620 still in

01:19:26.120 the hands

01:19:26.440 of Hamas

01:19:27.000 but Ben

01:19:28.040 Shapiro

01:19:28.460 and I

01:19:29.100 talked about

01:19:29.560 this at

01:19:29.880 length

01:19:30.040 when he

01:19:30.260 was on

01:19:30.600 he said

01:19:32.400 they made

01:19:32.720 a mistake

01:19:33.180 from the

01:19:33.620 beginning

01:19:33.920 in saying

01:19:34.540 they're not

01:19:35.640 going to

01:19:35.840 stop until

01:19:36.300 every hostage

01:19:36.840 is out

01:19:37.240 and that

01:19:38.600 may not

01:19:38.960 be possible

01:19:39.540 and it

01:19:40.220 can't

01:19:40.500 go on

01:19:40.820 forever

01:19:41.080 and

01:19:41.580 honestly

01:19:41.960 it's

01:19:42.140 because

01:19:42.400 I do

01:19:42.760 support

01:19:43.120 Israel

01:19:43.440 that

01:19:43.740 I

01:19:43.920 really

01:19:44.500 would

01:19:44.700 like

01:19:44.860 to

01:19:45.000 see

01:19:45.140 them

01:19:45.300 end

01:19:45.560 this

01:19:45.800 even

01:19:46.520 without

01:19:47.040 the

01:19:48.080 perfect

01:19:48.340 resolution

01:19:48.820 which would

01:19:49.280 be

01:19:49.540 getting

01:19:49.840 all the

01:19:50.140 hostages

01:19:50.500 back

01:19:50.800 they're

01:19:51.320 just

01:19:51.500 losing

01:19:51.820 too much

01:19:52.220 support

01:19:52.640 America

01:19:54.800 starting

01:19:55.520 to turn

01:19:55.900 on them

01:19:56.260 and that

01:19:56.760 cannot

01:19:57.360 happen

01:19:57.780 that

01:19:58.100 just

01:19:58.300 cannot

01:19:58.640 happen

01:19:59.060 they've

01:19:59.760 exacted

01:20:00.360 really

01:20:01.540 appropriate

01:20:02.100 justice

01:20:02.700 in response

01:20:03.800 to what

01:20:04.100 happened

01:20:04.360 to them

01:20:04.660 on

01:20:04.960 10-7

01:20:05.480 Hamas 0.96

01:20:06.080 is entirely

01:20:06.720 to blame

01:20:07.220 for what

01:20:07.520 happened

01:20:07.740 to Israel

01:20:08.080 in 10-7

01:20:08.700 and

01:20:09.660 like the

01:20:11.260 fact that

01:20:11.640 we're even

01:20:11.940 having to

01:20:12.340 have this

01:20:12.680 discussion

01:20:13.100 as Americans

01:20:13.820 and people

01:20:14.460 on the

01:20:14.820 right

01:20:15.100 tells me

01:20:16.140 like this

01:20:17.260 is a

01:20:17.500 crisis

01:20:17.780 for Israel

01:20:18.280 PR crisis

01:20:19.840 is what I

01:20:20.300 mean

01:20:20.460 and they

01:20:20.780 need

01:20:21.140 to wrap

01:20:21.900 it up

01:20:22.200 if I can

01:20:23.060 do one

01:20:23.520 final point

01:20:24.000 on this

01:20:24.300 is you

01:20:24.640 know I

01:20:24.880 had

01:20:25.080 Eli Lake

01:20:25.680 my dear

01:20:26.420 friend

01:20:26.660 of the

01:20:26.820 three of

01:20:28.820 us

01:20:28.980 on the

01:20:30.100 show

01:20:30.380 and Eli

01:20:31.060 is about

01:20:31.640 as you

01:20:32.640 know

01:20:32.980 sort of

01:20:34.060 full-throated

01:20:34.520 of a

01:20:34.740 Zionist 1.00

01:20:35.120 as you

01:20:35.320 can get

01:20:35.620 and I

01:20:36.360 asked him

01:20:36.700 about the

01:20:37.520 operation

01:20:38.080 to Gaza

01:20:38.640 and he

01:20:39.940 said I

01:20:40.320 think it's

01:20:40.640 a terrible

01:20:41.000 idea

01:20:41.460 and Eli

01:20:42.600 is a

01:20:43.000 very very

01:20:43.600 strong

01:20:43.880 supporter

01:20:44.220 of Israel

01:20:44.540 but you

01:20:44.880 also will

01:20:45.400 notice

01:20:45.700 that all

01:20:46.600 of these

01:20:46.920 debates

01:20:47.280 are taking

01:20:48.000 part

01:20:48.600 people are

01:20:49.700 taking part

01:20:50.040 of them

01:20:50.280 in Israel

01:20:51.200 they're very

01:20:51.880 controversial

01:20:52.260 in Israel

01:20:53.060 too

01:20:53.300 so when

01:20:53.960 Charlie Kirk

01:20:54.420 says I

01:20:55.000 don't know

01:20:55.860 if I like

01:20:56.440 the way

01:20:56.740 this war

01:20:57.220 is going

01:20:57.640 he's not

01:20:58.340 only not

01:20:58.700 alone in

01:20:59.080 that

01:20:59.200 he wouldn't

01:20:59.500 be alone

01:20:59.800 in Israel

01:21:00.180 he's not

01:21:00.800 alone

01:21:01.120 amongst

01:21:01.380 people on

01:21:01.840 the right

01:21:02.160 who support

01:21:02.880 Israel

01:21:03.280 in America

01:21:03.780 the wisdom

01:21:04.880 of what

01:21:05.560 Israel is

01:21:06.100 doing

01:21:06.380 is being

01:21:07.520 questioned

01:21:07.960 and it's

01:21:08.560 good that

01:21:09.020 people question

01:21:09.640 those debates

01:21:10.360 are healthy

01:21:10.940 and they're

01:21:11.280 necessary

01:21:11.800 when you do

01:21:12.960 get called

01:21:13.440 an anti-Zionist

01:21:14.980 or an anti-Semite

01:21:16.260 truly

01:21:17.220 when you do

01:21:18.360 try to debate

01:21:18.920 trust me

01:21:19.620 I had two

01:21:20.400 years of

01:21:20.980 totally

01:21:21.880 unbroken

01:21:22.540 universal

01:21:23.220 support

01:21:23.680 for Israel

01:21:24.180 that was

01:21:25.260 it

01:21:25.560 I said

01:21:26.500 two things

01:21:27.300 and this

01:21:27.820 shit storm

01:21:28.420 that rained

01:21:28.840 down on

01:21:29.260 me

01:21:29.400 was

01:21:29.680 unbelievable

01:21:30.420 which is

01:21:31.360 fucked up

01:21:32.160 and that's

01:21:33.440 what Charlie

01:21:33.680 was saying

01:21:34.100 too

01:21:34.380 yeah I

01:21:35.380 mean I

01:21:35.540 think the

01:21:35.800 concern

01:21:36.240 is the

01:21:36.580 difference

01:21:36.940 between

01:21:37.340 those

01:21:37.660 things

01:21:38.060 of

01:21:38.700 questioning

01:21:39.260 and I

01:21:40.320 have no

01:21:40.760 doubt

01:21:41.000 that you

01:21:41.300 I mean

01:21:41.620 if you

01:21:41.880 say it

01:21:42.160 then it's

01:21:42.420 true

01:21:42.620 that people

01:21:43.120 have come

01:21:43.840 down on

01:21:44.180 you

01:21:44.380 but there's

01:21:45.100 no doubt

01:21:45.820 that the

01:21:46.540 difference

01:21:47.300 between

01:21:47.700 someone

01:21:48.160 questioning

01:21:48.920 the wisdom

01:21:49.440 of how

01:21:49.960 Netanyahu

01:21:50.360 has been

01:21:50.640 conducting

01:21:50.960 the war

01:21:51.500 and what

01:21:52.000 the end

01:21:52.420 game

01:21:52.680 of that

01:21:52.960 war

01:21:53.200 is

01:21:53.400 or even

01:21:53.680 the strikes

01:21:54.020 on Iran

01:21:54.540 and America's

01:21:55.100 involvement

01:21:55.500 in them

01:21:55.860 in where

01:21:56.680 the Trump

01:21:57.120 administration

01:21:57.500 is vis-a-vis

01:21:58.260 Israel

01:21:58.560 is totally

01:21:59.340 normal

01:21:59.620 and the

01:22:00.380 conversations

01:22:01.040 that Candace

01:22:02.180 Owens has

01:22:03.180 about this

01:22:03.680 stuff I

01:22:04.080 don't believe

01:22:04.480 to be normal

01:22:05.020 I believe

01:22:05.520 them to be

01:22:05.940 completely

01:22:06.380 insane

01:22:06.820 and they're

01:22:07.780 really really

01:22:08.340 deep in

01:22:09.000 blood libel

01:22:09.720 in really

01:22:10.320 gross old

01:22:11.460 conspiracy

01:22:11.860 theories

01:22:12.340 can I ask

01:22:12.860 you a question

01:22:13.220 on that

01:22:13.660 let me just

01:22:14.360 add an honest

01:22:15.180 question for you

01:22:15.880 an honest

01:22:16.580 question for you

01:22:17.040 on that

01:22:17.320 because I

01:22:18.760 see the

01:22:19.160 clips that

01:22:20.100 they share

01:22:20.680 of Candace

01:22:21.100 online

01:22:21.440 and every

01:22:23.760 once in a

01:22:24.320 while I'll

01:22:24.800 go and just

01:22:25.340 kind of check

01:22:25.840 the clip

01:22:26.220 to see if

01:22:26.920 it's like

01:22:27.320 real

01:22:28.020 and more

01:22:29.040 than once

01:22:29.600 in her

01:22:30.100 case

01:22:30.500 and same

01:22:30.980 thing with

01:22:31.240 Tucker

01:22:31.440 by the way

01:22:31.840 and many

01:22:33.040 times in

01:22:33.460 his case

01:22:33.840 when I go

01:22:34.220 back to

01:22:34.500 the original

01:22:34.860 source

01:22:35.260 I'm like

01:22:35.760 this was

01:22:36.320 taken out

01:22:36.660 of context

01:22:37.140 now I'm

01:22:38.060 a busy

01:22:38.340 person

01:22:38.680 and I

01:22:39.040 don't

01:22:39.240 have time

01:22:40.020 to listen

01:22:40.640 to every

01:22:41.180 podcast

01:22:41.560 whatever

01:22:42.480 if it's

01:22:43.080 not a

01:22:43.320 segment

01:22:43.480 we're

01:22:43.660 going to

01:22:43.780 do on

01:22:43.960 the show

01:22:44.220 I'm

01:22:44.420 probably

01:22:44.640 not going

01:22:47.040 Candace

01:22:47.440 taken out

01:22:47.900 of context

01:22:48.360 many

01:22:49.020 many

01:22:49.360 times

01:22:49.860 and you

01:22:50.480 can

01:22:50.680 times that

01:22:52.020 by 100

01:22:52.500 on Tucker

01:22:53.000 so do

01:22:54.820 you listen

01:22:55.200 to her

01:22:55.420 show

01:22:55.580 like do

01:22:55.860 you actually

01:22:56.260 know

01:22:56.640 that the

01:22:57.420 little clips

01:22:57.900 you've seen

01:22:58.260 online are

01:22:58.920 not taken

01:22:59.820 out of

01:23:00.040 context

01:23:00.440 I think

01:23:01.600 it's

01:23:01.920 an unbelievably

01:23:03.640 important and

01:23:04.500 fair question

01:23:05.060 because I've

01:23:05.440 seen you

01:23:05.820 taken out

01:23:06.300 of context

01:23:07.080 I've seen

01:23:07.520 myself

01:23:07.820 taken out

01:23:08.220 of context

01:23:08.580 I've seen

01:23:09.000 Charlie Kirk

01:23:09.480 taken out

01:23:09.820 of context

01:23:10.180 in the last

01:23:10.520 24 hours

01:23:11.280 you know

01:23:11.960 and say

01:23:12.300 you know

01:23:12.540 Karen

01:23:12.900 Attia

01:23:13.300 getting fired

01:23:14.100 and literally

01:23:15.140 people saying

01:23:15.940 well he

01:23:16.320 just

01:23:16.840 she just 0.65

01:23:17.280 quoted him

01:23:17.840 and the

01:23:18.200 quote

01:23:18.460 was an

01:23:18.860 invention

01:23:19.320 half of

01:23:20.420 it is

01:23:20.760 real

01:23:21.000 the other

01:23:21.420 half

01:23:21.620 isn't

01:23:21.900 and that

01:23:22.120 other half

01:23:22.520 changes

01:23:22.940 entirely

01:23:23.500 but I

01:23:24.660 will say

01:23:25.280 on some

01:23:25.920 of this

01:23:26.220 stuff

01:23:26.400 because I

01:23:26.780 am

01:23:27.040 pretty

01:23:27.980 knowledgeable

01:23:28.680 about some

01:23:29.500 of these

01:23:29.940 conspiracy

01:23:30.420 theories

01:23:30.820 and what

01:23:31.140 people are

01:23:31.480 talking about

01:23:31.800 World War

01:23:32.680 II

01:23:32.860 and stuff

01:23:33.120 so I

01:23:33.640 have watched

01:23:34.100 entire

01:23:34.480 episodes

01:23:34.860 of these

01:23:35.240 things

01:23:35.520 with my

01:23:36.160 jaw on

01:23:36.760 the floor

01:23:37.100 and my

01:23:37.440 eyes

01:23:37.840 rather wide

01:23:38.600 these ideas

01:23:40.000 of Frank

01:23:40.520 and I

01:23:41.740 just I'm

01:23:42.240 surprised by

01:23:43.140 a lot of

01:23:43.960 it but I

01:23:44.460 assure you

01:23:45.300 that this

01:23:46.100 stuff

01:23:46.840 isn't taken

01:23:47.340 out of

01:23:47.560 context

01:23:47.840 and I

01:23:48.280 think what

01:23:48.500 happens with

01:23:48.980 people when

01:23:49.300 they get into

01:23:49.640 conspiracy theories

01:23:50.280 is it's never

01:23:51.220 just one

01:23:51.840 they take the

01:23:52.360 whole passel

01:23:52.980 of them

01:23:53.340 so 9-11

01:23:54.300 you know

01:23:55.080 if it's

01:23:55.400 9-11

01:23:55.880 if it's

01:23:56.640 Israel

01:23:57.220 I think

01:23:58.080 Brigitte

01:23:58.400 Macron was a bit

01:23:59.100 of a surprise

01:23:59.720 that was thrown

01:24:00.640 in there

01:24:00.960 but there is a

01:24:02.200 bit of a

01:24:02.600 conspiratorial way

01:24:03.460 of thinking

01:24:03.840 and you see

01:24:04.280 that for sure

01:24:05.140 on that show

01:24:05.840 every day

01:24:06.320 and I don't

01:24:06.700 listen to it

01:24:07.200 every day

01:24:07.540 absolutely not

01:24:08.700 but I do

01:24:09.500 if I see

01:24:10.500 something that

01:24:11.540 is of interest

01:24:12.220 and I'm kind

01:24:12.980 of writing

01:24:13.360 something about

01:24:14.260 this bigger

01:24:14.760 stuff now

01:24:15.220 I've been

01:24:15.500 watching it

01:24:16.400 to get a

01:24:17.360 sense of

01:24:17.700 what it is

01:24:18.060 she's not

01:24:18.520 here to defend

01:24:18.980 herself

01:24:19.340 but I will

01:24:20.000 say I have

01:24:20.760 checked more

01:24:21.440 than once

01:24:21.880 because I see

01:24:22.280 this crazy

01:24:22.700 quote and I

01:24:23.460 know her a

01:24:23.960 little

01:24:24.140 and she's

01:24:25.680 a fighter

01:24:26.040 she's feisty 1.00

01:24:26.760 I have never

01:24:28.520 known her

01:24:28.900 to be some

01:24:29.560 nut job

01:24:30.000 she's very

01:24:30.980 very fucking

01:24:31.840 smart

01:24:32.200 and the few

01:24:33.960 times I've

01:24:34.820 actually checked

01:24:35.540 and gone deep

01:24:36.140 they've been

01:24:37.300 lies about her 0.99

01:24:37.840 I'm just

01:24:38.700 going to say

01:24:39.020 it they've

01:24:39.300 been lies

01:24:39.680 so at this

01:24:40.440 point

01:24:40.720 look I'm

01:24:41.800 interested

01:24:42.160 like I'm

01:24:42.800 a media

01:24:43.080 person so I

01:24:43.800 look at these

01:24:44.520 clips and I

01:24:44.980 think oh could

01:24:45.340 that possibly

01:24:45.800 be real

01:24:46.240 but for

01:24:47.140 whatever it's

01:24:47.600 worth

01:24:47.820 I've checked

01:24:49.880 personally on

01:24:50.460 some of them

01:24:50.860 and they've

01:24:51.620 been lies about

01:24:52.120 her and once

01:24:52.740 you decide you

01:24:53.720 hate somebody

01:24:54.220 online you

01:24:55.200 can spend

01:24:55.540 your whole

01:24:55.840 life trying

01:24:56.220 to ruin

01:24:56.520 them and

01:24:57.080 people who

01:24:57.580 are like-minded

01:24:58.280 with you

01:24:58.800 will jump

01:24:59.320 on board

01:24:59.720 that's not

01:25:00.540 to that's

01:25:00.960 no knock

01:25:01.400 on Israel

01:25:01.820 or anybody

01:25:02.200 else I

01:25:02.620 just you

01:25:03.600 know take

01:25:03.860 it with a

01:25:04.060 grain of

01:25:04.280 salt and

01:25:04.540 people have

01:25:04.820 to make

01:25:04.980 up their

01:25:05.200 own minds

01:25:05.500 all right

01:25:05.840 stand by

01:25:06.720 because we

01:25:07.020 have to get

01:25:07.340 to Pam

01:25:07.660 Bondi we

01:25:08.060 spent too

01:25:08.400 much time

01:25:08.740 on that

01:25:08.980 one frankly

01:25:09.360 but I

01:25:10.200 wanted to

01:25:10.600 set the

01:25:10.840 record

01:25:11.020 straight on

01:25:11.560 Charlie and

01:25:12.360 my own

01:25:12.720 exchange

01:25:13.420 let's be

01:25:14.840 honest

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01:25:16.120 can be

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01:25:17.820 cravings

01:25:18.400 kick in

01:25:18.860 and focus

01:25:19.420 goes out

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01:25:20.600 another

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01:25:22.160 that's the

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01:25:23.940 but it can

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01:25:25.220 or a crash

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01:28:26.400 our friends

01:28:32.340 from the fifth

01:28:32.760 column are with

01:28:33.300 me two news

01:28:34.080 items I wanted

01:28:34.640 to get to

01:28:35.180 number one

01:28:36.820 there is a man

01:28:37.700 named George

01:28:38.400 Zinn

01:28:38.960 who falsely

01:28:40.180 told police

01:28:40.720 that he shot

01:28:41.440 Charlie Kirk

01:28:42.140 moments after

01:28:42.820 the attack

01:28:43.360 he's now

01:28:43.960 been charged

01:28:44.760 according to

01:28:45.580 TMZ

01:28:46.240 with

01:28:47.200 possessing

01:28:48.300 child

01:28:48.820 pornography

01:28:49.760 so there's

01:28:51.120 that

01:28:51.480 and then

01:28:53.520 separately

01:28:54.700 I believe

01:28:55.620 he's the

01:28:56.100 one who

01:28:56.760 it broke

01:28:57.320 about this

01:28:58.560 morning

01:28:58.940 who came

01:28:59.820 out and

01:29:00.580 said he

01:29:01.980 was happy

01:29:02.980 yeah right

01:29:04.060 it was him

01:29:04.540 Deb

01:29:04.720 that he was

01:29:05.600 happy

01:29:06.060 that he

01:29:08.100 helped

01:29:08.540 the gunman

01:29:09.180 escape

01:29:09.620 by distracting

01:29:11.120 police

01:29:11.660 on the spot

01:29:12.640 remember he's

01:29:13.160 the one who

01:29:13.480 was in cuffs

01:29:14.000 and originally

01:29:14.620 we thought

01:29:15.000 maybe this

01:29:15.380 was the

01:29:15.640 man

01:29:15.900 and if

01:29:16.820 TMZ's

01:29:17.340 reporting

01:29:17.640 is right

01:29:18.140 he is

01:29:19.480 a disgusting

01:29:20.000 pervert 0.58

01:29:20.540 if not

01:29:21.840 correct

01:29:22.320 I'm sure

01:29:23.280 he'll let

01:29:23.600 us know

01:29:23.940 we are

01:29:25.940 continuing to

01:29:26.580 await the

01:29:27.040 charging documents

01:29:28.020 against the

01:29:29.660 man accused

01:29:30.100 of shooting

01:29:30.520 Charlie

01:29:31.000 that should

01:29:31.460 come in

01:29:32.040 in a matter

01:29:32.720 of hours

01:29:33.260 less than

01:29:34.320 I think

01:29:34.740 an hour

01:29:35.120 we're gonna

01:29:35.720 have a presser

01:29:36.240 on it

01:29:36.540 and then

01:29:36.900 we'll have

01:29:37.240 a full

01:29:37.620 breakdown

01:29:37.960 of that

01:29:38.240 for you

01:29:38.500 tomorrow

01:29:38.780 and then

01:29:39.140 secondly

01:29:39.440 in unrelated

01:29:39.980 news

01:29:40.380 I do

01:29:41.300 want to

01:29:41.700 bring this

01:29:42.720 to you

01:29:42.920 because it's

01:29:43.240 just kind

01:29:43.640 of fun

01:29:43.980 Fannie 0.53

01:29:46.300 Willis

01:29:46.680 is officially

01:29:47.920 toast

01:29:48.360 on her

01:29:49.640 criminal case

01:29:51.400 against Donald

01:29:52.060 Trump

01:29:52.380 which by the

01:29:53.100 way has not

01:29:53.480 been thrown

01:29:53.780 out

01:29:54.040 I mean

01:29:55.180 amazingly

01:29:55.500 people think

01:29:55.920 that was

01:29:56.160 been thrown

01:29:56.460 it was not

01:29:56.980 thrown out

01:29:57.360 she was

01:29:58.240 thrown off

01:29:58.660 the case

01:29:59.080 because of

01:29:59.960 her inability 0.98

01:30:00.720 to keep it

01:30:01.220 in the pants

01:30:01.680 and then

01:30:03.500 she appealed

01:30:04.260 to an appellate

01:30:05.040 court saying

01:30:05.460 I was unfairly

01:30:06.220 removed

01:30:06.620 and they said

01:30:07.900 eh

01:30:08.360 we don't

01:30:08.860 think so

01:30:09.220 and then

01:30:09.960 she appealed

01:30:10.460 to the Georgia

01:30:11.040 high court

01:30:11.700 and they said

01:30:12.600 we don't want

01:30:13.140 anything to do

01:30:13.560 with this

01:30:13.960 they said

01:30:14.640 what most

01:30:15.380 most of us

01:30:15.880 said

01:30:16.000 we looked

01:30:16.300 at Fannie

01:30:16.640 Willis

01:30:16.920 which was

01:30:17.260 we don't

01:30:18.160 want anything

01:30:18.520 to do

01:30:18.800 with it

01:30:19.100 and they

01:30:20.320 rejected the

01:30:20.920 appeal

01:30:21.240 so she's

01:30:21.800 officially

01:30:22.100 removed

01:30:22.540 and right

01:30:22.880 now that

01:30:23.240 case is

01:30:23.660 dead

01:30:23.920 because it

01:30:24.460 has no

01:30:24.740 prosecutor

01:30:25.160 attached to

01:30:25.680 it

01:30:25.840 and Phil

01:30:26.840 Holloway

01:30:27.140 has been

01:30:27.340 explaining to

01:30:27.800 us for a

01:30:28.180 couple years

01:30:28.520 now

01:30:28.800 none is

01:30:29.940 likely to

01:30:30.540 be

01:30:30.760 so by

01:30:31.920 all intents

01:30:32.400 and purposes

01:30:32.780 that case

01:30:33.840 is dead

01:30:34.380 it's another

01:30:35.000 win for

01:30:35.440 Trump

01:30:35.760 like Kamala

01:30:37.240 Harris

01:30:37.520 we'll miss

01:30:37.960 Fannie 0.53

01:30:38.300 now that

01:30:39.180 she's

01:30:39.360 officially

01:30:39.700 gone

01:30:40.120 I look

01:30:41.300 forward to

01:30:41.600 her career

01:30:42.020 as an

01:30:42.600 MSNBC

01:30:43.100 contributor

01:30:43.580 because she

01:30:43.960 could be

01:30:44.200 kind of

01:30:44.440 interesting

01:30:44.780 to follow

01:30:45.600 MSNOW

01:30:47.320 you're right

01:30:50.180 I'm sorry

01:30:50.620 my bad

01:30:51.020 and speaking

01:30:52.200 of prosecutors

01:30:53.220 who say

01:30:54.720 or do dumb

01:30:55.160 things and

01:30:55.540 get themselves

01:30:55.980 in trouble

01:30:56.440 we got to

01:30:57.400 discuss Pam

01:30:57.960 Bondi

01:30:58.880 all the guys

01:30:59.700 are shaking

01:31:00.060 their heads

01:31:00.460 no right

01:31:01.200 now for

01:31:01.640 listening

01:31:01.960 audience

01:31:02.340 because

01:31:02.800 none of us

01:31:03.600 can believe

01:31:03.960 this actually

01:31:04.440 happened

01:31:04.800 but it

01:31:05.180 did happen

01:31:05.640 and therefore

01:31:06.000 we must

01:31:06.400 discuss it

01:31:07.040 Pam Bondi

01:31:08.320 said one

01:31:08.640 of the dumbest

01:31:09.120 things you

01:31:09.500 can say

01:31:09.960 as an

01:31:10.960 attorney

01:31:11.200 general

01:31:11.560 do we

01:31:11.800 have

01:31:11.940 here

01:31:12.060 I'm

01:31:12.160 looking

01:31:12.340 on my

01:31:12.620 sought

01:31:12.820 list

01:31:13.040 yeah

01:31:13.220 here

01:31:13.400 it is

01:31:13.760 several

01:31:14.740 very

01:31:15.060 dumb

01:31:15.280 things

01:31:15.620 yeah

01:31:16.020 several

01:31:16.660 several

01:31:17.260 because

01:31:17.540 she

01:31:17.700 went

01:31:17.860 on

01:31:18.060 Fox

01:31:18.480 News

01:31:18.840 and

01:31:19.200 she

01:31:19.400 went

01:31:19.580 on

01:31:19.700 this

01:31:19.860 podcast

01:31:20.200 with

01:31:20.560 someone

01:31:20.780 named

01:31:21.020 Katie

01:31:21.240 Miller

01:31:21.500 and it

01:31:22.540 it's

01:31:23.520 unbelievable

01:31:23.820 there was

01:31:24.080 absolutely

01:31:24.280 no pushback

01:31:24.880 but here

01:31:25.380 is what

01:31:25.720 here's

01:31:26.280 what Pam

01:31:26.580 said

01:31:26.840 in

01:31:26.980 Sod 18

01:31:27.340 there's

01:31:28.840 free speech

01:31:29.460 and then

01:31:29.940 there's

01:31:30.120 hate

01:31:30.320 speech

01:31:30.700 and there

01:31:31.840 is

01:31:32.040 no

01:31:32.740 place

01:31:33.380 especially

01:31:34.060 now

01:31:34.460 especially

01:31:34.920 after what

01:31:35.360 happened

01:31:35.700 to Charlie

01:31:36.280 in our

01:31:36.700 society

01:31:37.260 do you

01:31:38.480 see

01:31:38.900 more

01:31:40.040 law

01:31:40.500 enforcement

01:31:40.960 going

01:31:41.340 after

01:31:41.740 these

01:31:42.200 groups

01:31:42.660 who

01:31:42.880 are

01:31:43.020 using

01:31:43.340 hate

01:31:43.680 speech

01:31:44.040 and

01:31:44.260 putting

01:31:44.500 cuffs

01:31:44.820 on

01:31:45.060 people

01:31:45.420 so we

01:31:45.960 show

01:31:46.240 them

01:31:46.500 that

01:31:46.700 some

01:31:46.960 action

01:31:47.360 is

01:31:47.560 better

01:31:47.740 than

01:31:47.940 no

01:31:48.140 action

01:31:48.500 we

01:31:48.920 will

01:31:49.200 absolutely

01:31:50.240 target

01:31:51.180 you

01:31:51.500 go

01:31:52.000 after

01:31:52.440 you

01:31:52.860 if

01:31:53.420 you

01:31:53.800 are

01:31:54.060 targeting

01:31:54.540 anyone

01:31:55.400 with

01:31:56.080 hate

01:31:56.360 speech

01:31:56.840 anything

01:31:57.360 and that's

01:31:57.780 across

01:31:58.060 the aisle

01:31:58.620 okay

01:32:00.320 so that

01:32:00.760 is

01:32:00.980 Stephen

01:32:01.260 Miller's

01:32:01.680 wife

01:32:01.960 my team

01:32:02.420 reminds

01:32:02.760 me

01:32:02.980 and

01:32:03.680 while

01:32:04.280 her

01:32:04.480 husband

01:32:04.820 fully

01:32:05.180 understands

01:32:05.600 the law

01:32:06.140 and has

01:32:10.000 been behind

01:32:10.460 the most

01:32:11.060 critical

01:32:11.380 policies

01:32:11.800 of the

01:32:12.060 Trump

01:32:12.220 administration

01:32:12.640 that have

01:32:13.040 been very

01:32:13.360 successful

01:32:13.800 she clearly 0.80

01:32:14.800 doesn't

01:32:15.220 and she

01:32:15.540 doesn't

01:32:15.760 understand

01:32:16.100 the

01:32:16.240 conservative

01:32:16.560 movement

01:32:16.900 or she

01:32:17.180 would not

01:32:17.460 have asked

01:32:17.780 that

01:32:17.960 question

01:32:18.380 what kind

01:32:19.120 of a

01:32:19.300 question

01:32:19.600 is

01:32:19.840 that

01:32:20.020 it

01:32:20.160 was

01:32:20.280 completely

01:32:20.660 teed

01:32:21.060 up

01:32:21.220 in a

01:32:21.400 way

01:32:21.520 that

01:32:21.660 sounds

01:32:21.880 like

01:32:22.020 a

01:32:22.160 lefty

01:32:22.520 are

01:32:23.200 you

01:32:23.260 going

01:32:23.360 to

01:32:23.420 crack

01:32:23.600 down

01:32:23.800 on

01:32:23.960 hate

01:32:24.140 speech

01:32:24.440 what

01:32:24.720 the

01:32:24.900 fuck

01:32:25.200 that

01:32:25.740 is

01:32:26.180 not

01:32:26.300 a

01:32:26.340 question

01:32:26.740 that

01:32:27.140 a

01:32:27.260 conservative

01:32:27.640 would

01:32:27.900 ask

01:32:28.080 I

01:32:28.200 don't

01:32:28.340 understand

01:32:28.620 what's

01:32:28.820 happening

01:32:29.100 there

01:32:29.360 and

01:32:30.040 then

01:32:30.180 for

01:32:30.340 Pam

01:32:30.640 Bondi

01:32:31.080 to

01:32:31.240 not

01:32:31.440 say

01:32:31.740 whoa

01:32:32.480 whoa

01:32:32.900 sister

01:32:33.340 we

01:32:34.240 on

01:32:34.400 the

01:32:34.500 right

01:32:34.720 do

01:32:34.900 not

01:32:35.060 crack

01:32:35.280 down

01:32:35.540 on

01:32:35.720 hate

01:32:35.900 speech

01:32:36.180 we

01:32:36.340 don't

01:32:36.480 believe

01:32:36.740 in

01:32:36.860 that

01:32:37.000 nonsense

01:32:37.500 there's

01:32:38.720 this

01:32:38.860 pesky

01:32:39.380 document

01:32:39.780 called

01:32:40.020 the

01:32:40.160 constitution

01:32:40.720 that

01:32:40.980 doesn't

01:32:41.260 allow

01:32:41.560 it

01:32:41.840 but

01:32:42.320 we

01:32:42.440 don't

01:32:42.580 even

01:32:42.720 agree

01:32:42.980 with

01:32:43.160 it

01:32:43.320 in

01:32:43.720 principle

01:32:44.360 was

01:32:45.580 kind

01:32:45.840 of

01:32:45.940 extraordinary

01:32:46.420 and

01:32:47.080 I

01:32:47.220 actually

01:32:47.440 tweeted

01:32:47.700 out

01:32:47.820 this

01:32:47.940 morning

01:32:48.120 there's

01:32:48.300 no

01:32:48.440 way

01:32:48.620 Pam

01:32:48.840 Bondi

01:32:49.180 does

01:32:49.480 not

01:32:49.680 know

01:32:49.980 that

01:32:50.440 hate

01:32:50.620 speech

01:32:50.860 is

01:32:51.120 protected

01:32:51.580 under

01:32:52.360 our

01:32:52.540 constitution

01:32:52.980 she

01:32:53.320 must

01:32:53.580 have

01:32:53.760 meant

01:32:54.080 like

01:32:54.920 because

01:32:55.480 given

01:32:56.120 what

01:32:56.360 Stephen

01:32:56.640 Miller

01:32:56.860 said

01:32:57.220 to

01:32:57.380 J.D.

01:32:57.940 Vance

01:32:58.160 when he

01:32:58.420 was

01:32:58.540 subbing

01:32:58.780 on

01:32:58.940 Charlie's

01:32:59.300 show

01:32:59.440 yesterday

01:32:59.840 Stephen

01:33:00.540 Miller

01:33:00.720 was

01:33:00.860 talking

01:33:01.000 about

01:33:01.160 how

01:33:01.280 we

01:33:01.400 got

01:33:01.560 to

01:33:01.660 crack

01:33:01.820 down

01:33:02.040 on

01:33:02.160 these

01:33:02.340 groups

01:33:02.640 around

01:33:03.360 people

01:33:04.520 like

01:33:04.820 the

01:33:05.020 assassin

01:33:05.740 who

01:33:06.480 encourage

01:33:06.880 it

01:33:07.060 or

01:33:07.160 know

01:33:07.360 about

01:33:07.680 it

01:33:07.900 or

01:33:16.420 conspirators

01:33:17.160 you know

01:33:17.740 people

01:33:17.960 who

01:33:18.160 are

01:33:18.300 part

01:33:18.660 of

01:33:18.760 the

01:33:18.900 conspiracy

01:33:19.380 but

01:33:19.780 don't

01:33:19.960 actually

01:33:20.220 do

01:33:20.500 the

01:33:20.980 act

01:33:21.360 but

01:33:21.760 you

01:33:21.880 would

01:33:22.000 need

01:33:22.120 to

01:33:22.220 take

01:33:22.400 at

01:33:22.520 least

01:33:22.640 one

01:33:22.920 overt

01:33:23.220 act

01:33:23.600 which

01:33:24.280 would

01:33:24.560 potentially

01:33:25.100 make

01:33:25.460 your

01:33:25.680 speech

01:33:26.080 part

01:33:26.320 of

01:33:26.400 a

01:33:26.500 crime

01:33:26.760 I

01:33:27.860 gave

01:33:28.100 her

01:33:28.260 too

01:33:28.440 much

01:33:28.620 credit

01:33:28.920 that's

01:33:29.800 not

01:33:29.960 what

01:33:30.120 she

01:33:30.220 was

01:33:30.360 talking

01:33:30.620 about

01:33:31.000 because

01:33:31.660 she

01:33:31.760 came

01:33:32.020 out

01:33:32.280 with

01:33:32.460 an

01:33:32.560 ex

01:33:32.720 post

01:33:32.920 this

01:33:33.060 morning

01:33:33.240 Pam

01:33:33.460 Bondi

01:33:33.820 and

01:33:34.620 tried

01:33:34.860 to

01:33:35.000 say

01:33:35.120 this

01:33:35.480 hate

01:33:36.800 speech

01:33:37.320 that

01:33:37.560 crosses

01:33:37.980 the

01:33:38.360 line

01:33:38.920 into

01:33:39.600 threats

01:33:39.940 of

01:33:40.080 violence

01:33:40.440 is

01:33:40.620 not

01:33:40.840 protected

01:33:41.220 by

01:33:41.380 the

01:33:41.480 First

01:33:41.660 Amendment

01:33:41.920 now

01:33:42.640 that

01:33:42.920 is

01:33:43.780 another

01:33:44.360 dodge

01:33:45.080 because

01:33:45.900 all

01:33:46.460 she

01:33:46.620 needed

01:33:46.820 to

01:33:47.000 write

01:33:47.180 was

01:33:47.500 threats

01:33:47.980 of

01:33:48.180 violence

01:33:48.500 are

01:33:48.640 not

01:33:48.820 protected

01:33:49.140 by

01:33:49.300 the

01:33:49.420 First

01:33:49.620 Amendment

01:33:49.920 okay

01:33:50.460 now

01:33:51.140 we're

01:33:51.300 closer

01:33:51.560 to

01:33:51.740 an

01:33:51.900 actual

01:33:52.220 statement

01:33:52.560 of

01:33:52.700 the

01:33:52.800 law

01:33:53.060 it

01:33:56.140 takes

01:33:57.220 a lot

01:33:57.700 it takes

01:33:58.100 a lot

01:33:58.400 for a

01:33:58.680 threat

01:33:58.840 to

01:33:59.000 elevate

01:33:59.280 itself

01:33:59.640 into

01:33:59.880 a

01:34:00.360 threat

01:34:00.800 that

01:34:00.920 you

01:34:01.020 can't

01:34:01.460 actually

01:34:01.660 utter

01:34:01.900 in

01:34:02.020 the

01:34:02.100 United

01:34:02.280 States

01:34:02.540 of

01:34:02.660 America

01:34:02.960 but

01:34:03.560 prefacing

01:34:04.380 that

01:34:04.700 line

01:34:05.060 with

01:34:05.280 hate

01:34:05.700 speech

01:34:06.280 that

01:34:06.480 crosses

01:34:06.780 the

01:34:06.960 line

01:34:07.120 into

01:34:07.300 threats

01:34:07.580 is

01:34:08.160 another

01:34:08.380 fucked

01:34:08.700 up

01:34:08.860 thing

01:34:09.020 to

01:34:09.160 say

01:34:09.460 it

01:34:10.000 it

01:34:10.280 it's

01:34:10.600 a

01:34:10.720 cover

01:34:11.040 for

01:34:11.360 her

01:34:11.580 erroneous

01:34:12.200 statement

01:34:12.560 earlier

01:34:13.100 right

01:34:13.640 it's

01:34:13.860 her

01:34:14.000 not

01:34:14.240 being

01:34:14.500 willing

01:34:14.880 to

01:34:15.380 admit

01:34:15.780 she

01:34:16.500 totally

01:34:17.000 said

01:34:17.320 the

01:34:17.480 wrong

01:34:17.700 thing

01:34:18.080 as

01:34:18.880 a

01:34:19.020 moral

01:34:19.240 principle

01:34:19.700 as

01:34:20.100 an

01:34:20.220 American

01:34:20.520 principle

01:34:20.980 and

01:34:21.300 as

01:34:21.480 a

01:34:21.600 legal

01:34:21.800 principle

01:34:22.300 and

01:34:23.060 this

01:34:23.240 is

01:34:23.360 like

01:34:23.500 a

01:34:23.640 long

01:34:23.920 winded

01:34:24.420 way

01:34:24.980 to

01:34:25.160 try

01:34:25.360 to

01:34:25.500 like

01:34:25.700 make

01:34:26.360 herself

01:34:26.720 sound

01:34:27.060 like

01:34:27.220 she

01:34:27.360 was

01:34:27.520 more

01:34:27.760 right

01:34:28.040 than

01:34:28.220 she

01:34:28.420 was

01:34:28.840 which

01:34:29.480 was

01:34:29.660 not

01:34:29.900 right

01:34:30.240 at

01:34:30.980 all

01:34:31.380 i'll

01:34:32.240 give

01:34:32.420 you

01:34:32.580 guys

01:34:32.780 the

01:34:32.920 floor

01:34:33.080 and

01:34:33.180 then

01:34:33.280 we'll

01:34:33.380 talk

01:34:33.560 about

01:34:33.720 what

01:34:33.860 she

01:34:33.960 said

01:34:34.180 on

01:34:34.340 hannity

01:34:34.640 who

01:34:34.800 would

01:34:34.920 like

01:34:35.040 to

01:34:35.160 take

01:34:35.320 it

01:34:35.380 well

01:34:35.480 we

01:34:35.640 should

01:34:35.780 hear

01:34:35.920 from

01:34:36.040 matt

01:34:36.220 welch

01:34:36.480 who

01:34:36.580 hasn't

01:34:36.760 spoken

01:34:37.020 in

01:34:37.180 an

01:34:37.300 hour

01:34:37.520 yeah

01:34:38.660 when

01:34:40.440 matt

01:34:40.700 welch

01:34:41.060 and

01:34:41.180 matt

01:34:41.360 walsh

01:34:41.680 on

01:34:42.880 something

01:34:43.300 then

01:34:43.840 matt

01:34:45.680 walsh

01:34:46.440 was

01:34:46.960 was

01:34:47.640 correct

01:34:48.200 and

01:34:48.560 saying

01:34:48.760 also

01:34:49.720 what

01:34:50.480 the

01:34:50.640 fuck

01:34:50.880 well

01:34:51.260 that's

01:34:51.720 not

01:34:57.520 attorney

01:34:57.660 general

01:34:57.980 of

01:34:58.100 the

01:34:58.140 united

01:34:58.300 states

01:34:58.760 hate

01:34:59.300 speech

01:34:59.540 is

01:34:59.760 not

01:35:00.080 a

01:35:00.320 legal

01:35:00.660 category

01:35:01.240 your

01:35:01.520 job

01:35:01.860 is

01:35:02.040 the

01:35:02.320 top

01:35:02.660 law

01:35:02.880 enforcement

01:35:03.220 person

01:35:03.620 in

01:35:04.120 the

01:35:04.220 country

01:35:04.540 and

01:35:05.120 you've

01:35:05.260 just

01:35:05.420 been

01:35:05.560 asked

01:35:05.720 a

01:35:05.840 question

01:35:06.060 about

01:35:06.280 putting

01:35:06.600 people

01:35:07.000 in

01:35:07.280 cuffs

01:35:07.620 to

01:35:07.840 show

01:35:08.040 them

01:35:08.220 a

01:35:08.340 lesson

01:35:08.620 no

01:35:09.280 that

01:35:09.680 is

01:35:09.840 not

01:35:10.000 how

01:35:10.160 we

01:35:10.280 do

01:35:10.420 it

01:35:10.540 here

01:35:10.780 it

01:35:11.060 we're

01:35:11.800 getting

01:35:11.980 ahead

01:35:12.160 of

01:35:12.260 ourselves

01:35:12.560 okay

01:35:12.880 I

01:35:13.020 did

01:35:13.160 it

01:35:13.280 wrong

01:35:13.460 I

01:35:13.660 should

01:35:13.920 play

01:35:14.140 the

01:35:14.260 Pam

01:35:14.440 Bondi

01:35:14.760 side

01:35:14.960 on

01:35:15.140 Hannity

01:35:15.460 because

01:35:15.880 you

01:35:27.520 shouldn't

01:35:27.800 be

01:35:27.980 working

01:35:28.300 with

01:35:28.620 you

01:35:28.780 businesses

01:35:29.340 cannot

01:35:30.100 discriminate

01:35:30.780 if

01:35:31.020 you

01:35:31.120 want

01:35:31.240 to

01:35:31.320 go

01:35:31.460 in

01:35:31.580 and

01:35:31.780 print

01:35:32.300 posters

01:35:32.900 with

01:35:33.180 charlie's

01:35:33.620 pictures

01:35:33.920 on

01:35:34.160 them

01:35:34.280 for

01:35:34.440 a

01:35:34.560 vigil

01:35:34.760 you

01:35:35.140 have

01:35:35.400 to

01:35:35.540 let

01:35:35.740 them

01:35:35.900 do

01:35:36.080 that

01:35:36.320 we

01:35:36.780 can

01:35:36.940 prosecute

01:35:37.500 you

01:35:37.620 for

01:35:37.760 that

01:35:37.980 I

01:35:38.180 have

01:35:38.340 harmeet

01:35:38.700 dylan

01:35:38.940 right

01:35:39.200 now

01:35:39.340 in

01:35:39.440 our

01:35:39.560 civil

01:35:39.820 rights

01:35:40.180 unit

01:35:40.740 looking

01:35:41.100 at

01:35:41.300 that

01:35:41.580 immediately

01:35:42.440 that

01:35:42.740 office

01:35:43.060 depot

01:35:43.520 had

01:35:43.700 done

01:35:43.920 that

01:35:44.100 we're

01:35:44.280 looking

01:35:44.520 at

01:35:44.740 that

01:35:45.020 keep

01:35:46.340 going

01:35:46.560 Matt

01:35:46.840 so

01:35:47.680 office

01:35:47.980 depot

01:35:48.360 fired

01:35:48.860 the

01:35:49.060 person

01:35:49.380 or

01:35:49.640 suspended

01:35:50.440 them

01:35:50.800 they

01:35:51.200 took

01:35:51.460 their

01:35:51.760 appropriate

01:35:52.220 action

01:35:52.620 for

01:35:53.160 office

01:35:53.440 depot

01:35:53.760 that's

01:35:54.300 not

01:35:54.560 a

01:35:54.780 civil

01:35:54.980 rights

01:35:55.320 issue

01:35:55.780 the

01:35:56.900 federal

01:35:57.180 government

01:35:57.660 is

01:35:58.000 supposed

01:35:58.240 to

01:35:58.480 be

01:35:58.780 enforcing

01:35:59.380 civil

01:35:59.640 rights

01:35:59.860 that's

01:36:00.100 not

01:36:00.220 it

01:36:00.320 you

01:36:00.440 don't

01:36:00.640 have

01:36:00.860 a

01:36:00.980 legal

01:36:01.180 obligation

01:36:01.620 as a

01:36:02.040 as a

01:36:02.560 company

01:36:02.840 to

01:36:03.320 print

01:36:03.580 that

01:36:03.780 flyer

01:36:04.200 what are

01:36:06.000 we

01:36:06.340 even

01:36:10.580 doing

01:36:10.900 here

01:36:11.100 there's

01:36:11.340 all

01:36:11.560 these

01:36:11.720 things

01:36:11.920 adjudicated

01:36:12.800 at the

01:36:13.060 Supreme

01:36:13.260 Court

01:36:13.540 over and

01:36:13.940 over

01:36:14.100 again

01:36:14.300 and

01:36:14.640 these

01:36:14.860 are

01:36:15.040 nine

01:36:15.360 nothing

01:36:15.640 issues

01:36:16.140 and

01:36:16.540 they

01:36:16.680 will

01:36:16.900 be

01:36:17.100 nine

01:36:17.320 nothing

01:36:17.540 issues

01:36:17.880 as

01:36:18.100 our

01:36:18.220 friend

01:36:18.420 Charlie

01:36:18.660 Cook

01:36:18.900 rightly

01:36:19.440 pointed

01:36:19.780 out

01:36:19.960 in a

01:36:20.160 very

01:36:20.300 good

01:36:20.480 column

01:36:20.740 of

01:36:20.860 national

01:36:21.120 review

01:36:21.440 today

01:36:21.980 it was

01:36:22.340 great

01:36:22.600 it's

01:36:23.060 garbage

01:36:23.340 and

01:36:23.680 I'm

01:36:24.240 heartened

01:36:24.920 because

01:36:25.340 Republicans

01:36:26.400 conservatives

01:36:26.960 in the

01:36:27.780 Trump

01:36:28.280 era

01:36:28.520 have

01:36:28.740 spent

01:36:29.060 a lot

01:36:29.480 of

01:36:29.600 time

01:36:29.940 backtracking

01:36:30.700 against

01:36:31.460 or

01:36:31.980 repudiating

01:36:33.240 their

01:36:33.500 previously

01:36:34.220 held

01:36:34.480 positions

01:36:34.960 on a

01:36:35.340 lot

01:36:35.500 of

01:36:35.620 things

01:36:35.800 especially

01:36:36.140 in

01:36:36.300 economics

01:36:36.640 but

01:36:36.820 not

01:36:36.980 only

01:36:37.200 a lot

01:36:37.780 of

01:36:37.900 different

01:36:38.140 ways

01:36:38.500 they

01:36:38.660 have

01:36:38.900 done

01:36:39.100 this

01:36:39.400 it's

01:36:40.220 been

01:36:40.360 heartening

01:36:40.740 to

01:36:46.680 hate

01:36:47.600 speech

01:36:47.980 isn't

01:36:48.460 a

01:36:48.680 thing

01:36:48.900 this

01:36:49.160 isn't

01:36:49.500 embarrassing

01:36:49.980 you

01:36:50.200 should

01:36:50.340 go

01:36:50.500 they

01:36:50.680 are

01:36:50.840 right

01:36:51.100 and

01:36:51.380 she

01:36:51.560 should

01:36:51.820 go ahead

01:36:53.140 Camille

01:36:53.360 well

01:36:54.320 Jonathan

01:36:54.800 Carl

01:36:55.200 though

01:36:55.460 asked

01:36:56.040 the

01:36:56.220 president

01:36:56.480 about

01:36:56.780 this

01:36:57.120 a little

01:36:57.540 earlier

01:36:57.920 this

01:36:58.200 morning

01:36:58.480 and

01:36:59.240 so

01:36:59.400 not

01:36:59.600 everybody

01:37:00.260 is

01:37:00.780 what

01:37:01.120 you're

01:37:01.380 going

01:37:01.480 to tell

01:37:01.780 me

01:37:01.920 the

01:37:02.120 president

01:37:03.160 was

01:37:04.300 not

01:37:04.560 perfect

01:37:05.120 we do

01:37:05.940 here it

01:37:06.540 is

01:37:06.840 here it

01:37:07.780 is

01:37:08.160 the

01:37:09.100 question

01:37:09.380 wasn't

01:37:09.640 perfect

01:37:09.820 Pam

01:37:10.380 Bondi

01:37:10.760 saying

01:37:11.000 she's

01:37:11.220 going

01:37:11.320 to

01:37:11.340 go

01:37:11.480 after

01:37:11.660 hate

01:37:12.060 speech

01:37:12.500 is

01:37:13.440 that

01:37:13.640 I

01:37:13.800 mean

01:37:13.940 a lot

01:37:14.260 of

01:37:14.320 people

01:37:14.500 a lot

01:37:14.780 of

01:37:14.820 your

01:37:14.940 allies

01:37:15.220 say

01:37:15.460 hate

01:37:15.680 speech

01:37:15.980 is

01:37:16.140 free

01:37:16.380 speech

01:37:16.720 should

01:37:17.180 probably

01:37:17.440 go

01:37:17.620 after

01:37:17.840 people

01:37:18.160 like

01:37:18.480 you

01:37:18.720 because

01:37:19.240 you treat

01:37:19.620 me so

01:37:20.020 unfairly

01:37:20.640 it's

01:37:20.840 hate

01:37:21.060 you have

01:37:21.580 a lot

01:37:21.800 of hate

01:37:22.080 in your

01:37:22.380 heart

01:37:22.700 maybe

01:37:23.460 they'll

01:37:23.760 come after

01:37:24.200 ABC

01:37:24.660 well ABC

01:37:25.820 paid me

01:37:26.360 16 million

01:37:27.100 dollars recently

01:37:27.960 for a form

01:37:29.140 of hate

01:37:29.520 speech

01:37:29.840 right

01:37:30.100 your company

01:37:31.040 paid me

01:37:31.500 16 million

01:37:32.220 dollars

01:37:32.700 for a form

01:37:34.080 of hate

01:37:34.460 speech

01:37:34.720 so maybe

01:37:35.520 they'll have

01:37:35.900 to go

01:37:36.160 after you

01:37:36.640 look

01:37:37.140 we want

01:37:37.800 everything

01:37:38.120 to be

01:37:38.480 fair

01:37:38.780 it hasn't

01:37:39.480 been

01:37:39.680 fair

01:37:39.920 and

01:37:40.460 the

01:37:40.640 radical

01:37:41.000 left

01:37:41.340 has

01:37:41.580 done

01:37:41.760 tremendous

01:37:42.260 damage

01:37:42.640 to the

01:37:42.940 country

01:37:43.280 that

01:37:44.580 is

01:37:45.100 the

01:37:45.280 first

01:37:45.580 genuine

01:37:46.080 laugh

01:37:46.480 I've

01:37:46.740 had

01:37:47.020 in a

01:37:47.360 week

01:37:47.620 I

01:37:49.560 think

01:37:50.080 in

01:37:50.360 fairness

01:37:50.900 like

01:37:51.360 Jonathan

01:37:51.640 Carl's

01:37:52.000 question

01:37:52.300 was

01:37:52.480 not

01:37:52.680 very

01:37:52.940 good

01:37:53.260 like

01:37:53.620 to

01:37:53.780 the

01:37:53.900 extent

01:37:54.060 the

01:37:54.280 president's

01:37:54.720 allies

01:37:55.080 and

01:37:55.280 people

01:37:55.500 beyond

01:37:55.900 that

01:37:56.200 that

01:37:56.420 orbit

01:37:56.740 who

01:37:57.120 say

01:37:57.540 hate

01:37:58.220 speech

01:37:58.500 this

01:37:58.700 is

01:37:59.060 a

01:37:59.200 problematic

01:37:59.580 concept

01:38:00.300 it's

01:38:00.760 not

01:38:00.880 that

01:38:00.980 we

01:38:01.100 say

01:38:01.300 hate

01:38:01.680 speech

01:38:01.900 is

01:38:02.000 free

01:38:02.160 speech

01:38:02.360 we

01:38:02.680 say

01:38:02.820 hate

01:38:03.000 speech

01:38:03.220 is

01:38:03.360 the

01:38:03.500 nonsense

01:38:09.680 was

01:38:09.940 it

01:38:10.020 would

01:38:10.100 be

01:38:10.200 a

01:38:10.320 totally

01:38:10.580 subjective

01:38:11.020 category

01:38:11.460 and

01:38:11.620 this

01:38:11.760 is

01:38:11.900 why

01:38:12.180 it's

01:38:12.380 a

01:38:12.460 problem

01:38:12.840 it's

01:38:14.100 separate

01:38:14.420 from

01:38:14.600 incitement

01:38:14.980 we can

01:38:15.220 talk

01:38:15.420 about

01:38:15.660 that

01:38:15.880 differently

01:38:16.280 and

01:38:16.460 I

01:38:16.560 think

01:38:16.740 the

01:38:16.920 president's

01:38:17.460 preamble

01:38:17.980 in which

01:38:19.020 he

01:38:19.200 referred

01:38:19.660 to

01:38:20.160 various

01:38:20.960 media

01:38:21.500 coverage

01:38:21.880 as

01:38:22.140 hate

01:38:22.400 speech

01:38:22.680 categorically

01:38:23.400 I

01:38:23.940 think

01:38:24.260 it's

01:38:24.460 safe

01:38:24.880 to

01:38:25.080 say

01:38:25.300 he

01:38:25.500 was

01:38:25.680 joking

01:38:26.040 but

01:38:26.640 I

01:38:26.760 wish

01:38:27.300 that

01:38:28.020 the

01:38:28.140 answer

01:38:28.380 because

01:38:28.640 I

01:38:28.800 think

01:38:28.940 the

01:38:29.140 more

01:38:29.580 serious

01:38:29.920 answer

01:38:30.220 came

01:38:30.440 afterwards

01:38:30.960 we

01:38:31.120 want

01:38:31.280 to

01:38:31.360 be

01:38:31.500 fair

01:38:31.780 everybody

01:38:33.740 all over

01:38:34.080 the airwaves

01:38:34.480 calling him

01:38:34.980 a nazi

01:38:35.520 and a

01:38:35.820 fascist

01:38:36.220 that is

01:38:36.520 hate

01:38:36.680 speech

01:38:36.960 and it's

01:38:37.600 lawful

01:38:37.840 to the

01:38:38.200 extent

01:38:38.660 it could

01:38:39.060 be

01:38:39.220 anything

01:38:39.620 it could

01:38:40.060 certainly

01:38:40.340 be the

01:38:40.620 case

01:38:40.780 that we

01:38:40.960 could

01:38:41.080 categorize

01:38:41.580 that

01:38:41.820 but

01:38:42.020 it is

01:38:42.280 totally

01:38:42.620 lawful

01:38:43.040 as you

01:38:43.340 put it

01:38:43.740 and I

01:38:44.240 think

01:38:44.400 that's

01:38:44.720 the

01:38:44.820 point

01:38:45.000 but

01:38:45.160 the

01:38:45.800 president

01:38:46.080 isn't

01:38:46.400 a

01:38:46.520 lawyer

01:38:46.720 is

01:38:47.240 the

01:38:47.380 most

01:38:47.860 important

01:38:48.260 point

01:38:48.580 we

01:38:48.860 know

01:38:49.100 that

01:38:49.320 he's

01:38:49.540 many

01:38:49.780 things

01:38:50.120 can we

01:38:50.800 watch

01:38:51.040 the

01:38:51.180 beginning

01:38:51.460 of

01:38:51.600 that

01:38:51.720 again

01:38:52.020 I

01:38:52.260 need

01:38:53.280 to

01:38:53.360 see

01:38:53.480 the

01:38:53.620 beginning

01:38:53.920 this

01:38:54.560 is

01:38:54.700 why

01:38:54.860 let's

01:38:55.100 re-rack

01:38:55.400 what do

01:38:55.620 you think

01:38:55.780 Pam

01:38:56.140 Bondi

01:38:56.520 is saying

01:38:56.760 she's

01:38:56.980 going to

01:38:57.100 go after

01:38:57.420 hate

01:38:57.820 speech

01:38:58.260 is that

01:38:59.400 I mean

01:38:59.720 a lot of

01:39:00.080 people

01:39:00.260 a lot of

01:39:00.580 your allies

01:39:00.960 say hate

01:39:01.420 speech is

01:39:01.900 free speech

01:39:02.460 you probably

01:39:03.180 go after

01:39:03.600 people like

01:39:04.240 you

01:39:04.500 because you

01:39:05.160 treat me

01:39:05.540 so unfairly

01:39:06.400 it's hate

01:39:06.840 you have a lot

01:39:07.560 of hate

01:39:07.860 in your heart

01:39:09.140 this is

01:39:11.480 vintage Trump

01:39:12.400 I love that

01:39:14.000 he wasn't

01:39:15.020 doing the

01:39:15.580 New York

01:39:15.820 Times again

01:39:16.580 this morning

01:39:17.640 yeah

01:39:17.920 okay but

01:39:18.420 listen

01:39:18.720 he can do

01:39:19.520 no other

01:39:20.020 you know

01:39:20.860 when asked

01:39:21.460 a question

01:39:21.840 like that

01:39:22.260 by ABC

01:39:22.840 News

01:39:23.160 he can

01:39:23.580 do no

01:39:24.000 other

01:39:24.260 who could

01:39:25.600 blame him

01:39:26.060 for saying

01:39:26.540 that

01:39:26.820 I think

01:39:27.280 that was

01:39:27.660 actually

01:39:28.000 quite very

01:39:28.480 funny

01:39:28.660 go ahead

01:39:28.900 Matt

01:39:29.060 one hand

01:39:29.440 I would

01:39:31.440 say one

01:39:32.100 thing about

01:39:32.460 this is

01:39:32.800 that we

01:39:33.260 have this

01:39:33.960 creeping

01:39:34.580 concept of

01:39:36.000 what of

01:39:36.460 speech like

01:39:36.880 you know

01:39:37.180 is hateful

01:39:37.920 speech it

01:39:38.380 becomes hate

01:39:38.880 speech why

01:39:39.300 does it

01:39:39.500 become hate

01:39:39.860 speech because

01:39:40.600 it's a

01:39:40.960 category in

01:39:41.720 other countries

01:39:42.460 and it's

01:39:43.480 why certain

01:39:44.260 people that

01:39:44.740 I know in

01:39:45.420 other countries

01:39:46.000 envy the

01:39:46.680 United States

01:39:47.180 it is the

01:39:47.640 most American

01:39:48.400 thing is to

01:39:49.600 have a

01:39:49.900 first amendment

01:39:50.420 and to

01:39:50.940 zealously

01:39:51.460 protect it

01:39:52.160 even for

01:39:52.960 the worst

01:39:53.560 shittiest

01:39:54.120 ideas that's

01:39:55.160 why we have

01:39:55.720 it it's not

01:39:56.060 for my ideas

01:39:56.800 or your ideas

01:39:57.480 it's for those

01:39:58.540 who have the

01:39:58.920 really shitty

01:39:59.460 ideas so I

01:40:00.680 don't love

01:40:01.400 that that we're

01:40:02.480 using the phrase

01:40:03.460 at all because

01:40:04.520 where it comes

01:40:05.220 from is I think

01:40:06.160 that we it's

01:40:06.840 also very

01:40:07.260 problematic and

01:40:08.400 for a really

01:40:09.380 for a reason

01:40:09.860 that really

01:40:10.100 depresses me I

01:40:10.700 don't even can't

01:40:11.280 even quite put my

01:40:11.800 finger on it we

01:40:12.600 never have a

01:40:13.220 conversation about

01:40:13.940 the absurdity of

01:40:14.600 hate crimes laws

01:40:15.720 because it's

01:40:16.480 usually you know

01:40:17.100 adding a little

01:40:18.220 extra flavor

01:40:19.360 five ten years

01:40:20.420 because of the

01:40:21.320 thoughts that

01:40:21.840 were going

01:40:22.160 through somebody's

01:40:22.840 head when they

01:40:23.820 were committing a

01:40:24.400 crime that was

01:40:25.160 already on the

01:40:25.820 books as a

01:40:26.520 crime that once

01:40:28.120 we accepted that

01:40:29.100 idea it's a pretty

01:40:30.680 easy navigation to

01:40:31.840 say well there

01:40:32.320 were there is

01:40:32.760 hate speech and

01:40:33.860 yeah she as a 1.00

01:40:35.740 Republican

01:40:36.400 attorney general

01:40:37.100 I'm not but no

01:40:37.960 she should know

01:40:38.880 better yeah

01:40:39.820 yeah it's like

01:40:40.720 this she should 0.86

01:40:41.580 resign Jack

01:40:42.960 Phillips is the 0.69

01:40:43.860 cake baker who

01:40:44.700 said I'm not

01:40:45.240 going to bake

01:40:45.600 that gay wedding 0.97

01:40:46.260 cake because it

01:40:46.960 doesn't align with

01:40:47.580 my values I'll

01:40:48.280 bake you a cake

01:40:49.700 but not I'm not

01:40:50.760 going to put like

01:40:51.200 the grooms on the

01:40:52.260 front of it you

01:40:53.100 know and I'll and

01:40:53.740 you can have any

01:40:55.080 other pastry from

01:40:56.020 my shop but I

01:40:57.240 can't be forced to

01:40:58.720 endorse something

01:41:00.420 that I don't

01:41:00.980 endorse and the

01:41:02.260 Supreme Court said

01:41:02.940 he's right and

01:41:04.260 they just reiterated

01:41:05.560 that in 303

01:41:06.520 creative two

01:41:07.540 sessions ago so

01:41:08.980 she absolutely

01:41:11.560 should know

01:41:12.940 all of this I'm

01:41:14.960 concerned that

01:41:16.000 they're talking

01:41:16.460 this way and I

01:41:17.940 will be the first

01:41:18.540 to criticize the

01:41:19.380 Trump administration

01:41:19.900 if it tries to

01:41:21.420 actually crack down

01:41:22.500 on quote hate

01:41:23.680 speech now having

01:41:24.580 said all that I

01:41:26.220 have zero sympathy

01:41:27.340 for the people who

01:41:28.120 are getting fired

01:41:29.060 because of their

01:41:30.760 inhumanity in

01:41:32.300 response to

01:41:32.920 Charlie's

01:41:33.300 assassination fire

01:41:35.080 them all I'm

01:41:37.000 thrilled to see

01:41:37.900 them getting their

01:41:39.080 asses fired you 0.70

01:41:40.700 celebrate any

01:41:42.080 political

01:41:42.460 assassination you're 1.00

01:41:43.740 fireable as far as

01:41:44.620 I'm concerned that

01:41:45.500 doesn't mean it's a

01:41:46.160 crime doesn't mean

01:41:46.760 that federal

01:41:47.500 government should get

01:41:48.220 involved and if

01:41:49.080 those losers in the 0.55

01:41:50.220 office depot who

01:41:51.540 were fired by office

01:41:52.380 depot who didn't

01:41:53.000 want to print flyers

01:41:54.480 with Charlie's photo

01:41:55.700 on them should be

01:41:57.280 publicly shamed and

01:41:58.720 they should be fired I

01:41:59.640 think that's fine but

01:42:00.980 they shouldn't be

01:42:01.660 prosecuted that like

01:42:03.220 we have to know where

01:42:04.000 our lines are anyway

01:42:06.100 that's I guess I stole

01:42:07.140 the last word anyone

01:42:07.860 want to weigh in

01:42:08.480 anyone I don't I

01:42:10.540 don't like the false

01:42:11.140 positives there are

01:42:12.100 people who are being

01:42:13.020 punished and sanctioned

01:42:14.520 professionally and in

01:42:16.400 these these online

01:42:17.820 mobbing you're just

01:42:18.500 saying for saying

01:42:19.180 things about Charlie

01:42:20.200 lame yeah yeah if

01:42:22.180 you're just saying

01:42:22.660 negative things about

01:42:23.440 Charlie that's that

01:42:24.540 doesn't show very good

01:42:25.860 character and the man

01:42:26.840 isn't even buried your

01:42:28.040 wife is saying negative

01:42:29.420 things about him and

01:42:30.200 you're losing your job

01:42:30.920 because of it which

01:42:31.540 that's a problem yeah

01:42:33.020 that's not right but if

01:42:34.240 you are celebrating his

01:42:35.200 death I'm all for the

01:42:36.640 firings all for you if

01:42:38.320 you were if you were

01:42:39.200 for my company and

01:42:40.320 you're so stupid to

01:42:41.620 put your

01:42:41.960 online for everyone to

01:42:44.800 see yeah yeah me you

01:42:46.920 get fired for being

01:42:47.880 that dumb not for your

01:42:49.520 speech just for you

01:42:50.260 being an idiot keep bad

01:42:52.380 shitty ideas to

01:42:53.360 yourself and you know

01:42:54.940 say them over a glass

01:42:55.960 of wine don't say for

01:42:56.920 everyone I'm so glad we

01:42:58.120 could end on that note

01:42:59.340 of harmony love you guys

01:43:01.140 thank you so much and

01:43:03.140 I'll see you soon in

01:43:04.100 person and by the way

01:43:05.560 if you guys want to get

01:43:06.180 tickets to the tour go to

01:43:07.200 megankelly.com

01:43:08.380 thanks for listening to

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 16, 2025

Cultural Decay Leading to Left Celebrating Violence, and Defining ＂Hate Speech,＂ with The Fifth Column ｜ Ep. 1150

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