Dangerous Anti-ICE Rhetoric Rises, Golden Globes Nonsense, and Shock Allegations Against Actor Timothy Busfield, with Mark Geragos and Matt Murphy ｜ Ep. 1228
00:06:12.960So first of all, you could hear him, whoa, whoa, and then the gunshot simultaneously as he's obviously being hit by the car and fearing for his life.
00:06:25.960I mean, it's all right there on the tape.
00:06:28.440And you hear not once, not twice, not three times, four times the officers say,
00:06:36.740get out of the car, get out of the car, get out of the fucking car, get out of the car, four times.
00:06:42.000Remember when the left tried to tell us that they gave her conflicting instructions, that they also told her to drive away?
00:08:23.780There's media personalities upset about the fact that the officer was videotaping this incident.
00:08:33.340By the way, it started with him with the iPhone circling around her car.
00:08:38.200He was videotaping her car and her license plate, as ICE has been doing, to make a record of these ne'er-do-wells who are breaking the law.
00:08:48.100Renee Goode was parked perpendicularly, blocking traffic.
00:08:51.920I'm going to get to that in one second.
00:08:53.100But you just tell me, if you went out in your neighborhood and you decided to park your car perpendicular to the oncoming traffic, do you think somebody might pull you aside?
00:09:03.760Do you think you'd be in trouble with law enforcement?
00:09:06.400That you think you'd be complying with the law?
00:09:21.660People, the left is literally saying, oh my God, Renee's last words were, have a good day or I'm good, whatever her cheery little comment was there.
00:09:43.700When somebody honks their horn at me and I'm driving, nine times out of 10, I put on a big smile and I give them a big wave, like I'm confused, like I think they're saying hello to me.
00:09:55.680It's just kind of fun to antagonize somebody who's trying to upset you.
00:09:59.500I would never do it to a law enforcement officer.
00:10:02.020Can we re-rack that tape that we just played?
00:10:04.040Let's re-rack it and play it again, okay?
00:10:06.220Listen for her, it's an antagonistic cheerfulness she's unleashing on him as evidenced.
00:10:12.580I'm not mad at you, I'm not mad at you, she says, I'm not mad at you, right?
00:10:16.780It's exactly what I do when I wave at the people who honk their horn at me, except it's not law enforcement and a potentially dangerous situation where you're blocking traffic.
00:10:27.180Listen for that, listen for the four times the cops tell her to get out of the car, listen for her wife antagonizing the cop over videotaping and the license plate, and then saying, drive, okay?
00:13:48.760You don't antagonize cops in the middle of a law enforcement operation.
00:13:53.220I think I've told you guys this before, but my brother's a cop.
00:13:56.360He made it all the way to lieutenant in Albany, New York, and now he's retired.
00:14:00.140And one day when he was training, he was a young cop, still foot patrol, and I was in law school in Albany, and I had just taught an aerobics class, which I did to help put myself through law school.
00:14:12.880So I was wearing sort of like an aerobics outfit, kind of inappropriate, but whatever.
00:14:18.160I was in it all the time because I was paying my bills that way.
00:14:20.420And I went by, there was like the paddy wagon there with my brother Paul, who was making an arrest with other cops.
00:14:27.420And I was just so excited to see Paul on the job that I pulled over and got out of my car.
00:14:31.700I did have a long winter coat on, but underneath it was an aerobics outfit.
00:15:30.000Legally, all that matters is his point of view.
00:15:33.220And her reasons for almost running him over are irrelevant.
00:15:37.320All that is relevant is he genuinely believed, he reasonably believed, that he was about to be run over by her.
00:15:43.600But here you have the Democrat Party putting out this little ad that suggests she said, I'm not mad at you.
00:15:51.520And he shot her in the face and called her a fucking bitch.
00:15:54.740By the way, it's now been reported by, I think, Alpha News as well, and others, that the officer who used that term was not the officer who fired.
00:16:05.120It was a different officer who was obviously emotionally upset over the fact that she had just tried to kill a fellow officer.
00:16:16.020So and at this point, they don't know what's happened to the woman.
00:16:18.600I'm sure the officer had no idea that she had died at that point.
00:16:22.060But look, these officers are human beings.
00:16:25.140If he was feeling steam after the fact that she, in his view, almost killed at least two of these cops because one had his arm in her car, who could blame him for not feeling totally warm and fuzzy about her?
00:16:38.960And by the way, for what it's worth, and maybe it's not worth anything to the detractors, Tom Homan has said he's been in touch with this officer.
00:16:47.380We've chosen not to name him and put his picture all over the board because people are doxing him.
00:18:50.200And Ross did testify in December, during the trial in December, that they do not wear cameras on their body.
00:19:01.220They do not wear body cam, and they do not have dashboard cams as well.
00:19:05.480Not saying that that has anything to do, but I'm just—they don't have cameras.
00:19:08.200So his cell phone would have, like, possibly been the only camera he had.
00:19:11.860And, you know, I've seen a lot of these videos from every angle now, and I'm looking at J.D. Vance's tweet, and he says, you know, that many of you say that the officer wasn't hit by a car, wasn't being harassed.
00:19:29.620And I just—I still don't see him being hit by a car.
00:19:50.340Wasn't it all these crazy leftists and their demands that everybody wear a body cam that's a police officer that led to this being the law in many places, regulations in other places, but not for ICE agents?
00:25:11.820It is amazing, notwithstanding all this tape.
00:25:14.400I mean, honestly, like I realize, who was it?
00:25:19.500Dave Ehrenberg said that the tape is like a Rorschach test, I guess, that reveals either your conservative or your left-wing bona fides, and you see what you want to see.
00:25:30.120I genuinely, genuinely have tried to check that.
00:25:35.540And that's why I say she accelerated the car into him.
00:25:52.860You don't have to say she was trying to do something else.
00:25:56.020I mean, I think it's clear she was trying to flee, at least.
00:25:58.460That's the bare minimum of what she was trying to do, because she had her foot on the accelerator, and she was accelerating when she hit him.
00:26:05.020Or when she ran into him, however you want to put it.
00:26:07.500The left is even disputing that he was hit.
00:26:09.360Well, it's strange, because when you see his body camera, he yells, whoa, he sounds scared, he fires a shot, he drops his phone, and you can see contact, what appears to be contact between the vehicle and his body.
00:26:21.000So, I mean, all of the evidence, I don't know how you'd prove that he was hit.
00:26:25.580Other than that, even the wide shots show she at least clipped him.
00:26:29.920I'm not saying Trump said she ran him over.
00:30:37.800Okay, so there you have somebody being totally irresponsible with the facts.
00:30:43.140He knows Jacob Fry, in addition to his other litany of talents, the woke performances at the side of George Floyd's casket, on his knees with the mask, his open struggle sessions with the far left progressives in his city after George Floyd, self-flagellating all of the BS.
00:31:04.880I copped to this, I copped to this, and I copped to that, that the leftist woke progressives have to do to be accepted by their crowd.
00:31:10.740And now, in a mad dash to cover up for the fraud that is rampant in his city that's now being unearthed by the Trump administration and independent journalists,
00:31:19.220he's on a mission to sound like he is, he's, he's the Avenger.
00:31:26.080He's the one who's going to stand up for all the poor, innocent victims that the big, bad ICE is randomly shooting for no reason whatsoever.
00:35:24.340And these unhappy, empty-lived leftists are now vowing to take on law enforcement, pretending like they're both like a badass, cop-busting, you know, vigilante type.
00:35:42.060And also, they're the victim because they're already the next Renee Good.
00:35:47.020Here is one woman with her face painted with an ice badge over her mouth.
00:35:53.200She cries and winces as she plays audio from Renee's, Renee Good's shooting.
00:36:18.980I mean, the only real justice she's pushing for there is that she see herself on camera, that she become a little star, a little vigilante star.
00:36:27.960Um, that's not even close to all we've got.
00:39:52.700Like that, that's the kind of thing we're hearing reports now of some children showing up in daycare and school talking about how they're having nightmares about this.
00:40:02.640Truly, the psycho parents are the ones who are causing that.
00:40:07.200And speaking of psycho, here's another one, another lady who decided to offer a little warning to ICE and added the tune by Talking Heads' Psycho Killer.
00:40:21.540Just for added effect, she's not the only one doing this kind of crazy ass, crazy ass threatening video.
00:44:05.300It's, do we have, have we already memory hold Charlie Kirk?
00:44:08.760Have we totally forgotten what happened in the wake of his assassination?
00:44:13.240Like the polls showing that some significant portion of leftists applauded it.
00:44:18.620Luigi Mangione, do we, should we talk about that?
00:44:21.140I mean, it's amazing because a law enforcement officer defended his physical safety and that of his fellow officers in a split second decision.
00:44:30.820They're now saying that it's the right wing that's violent.
00:44:33.720And again, I forgot to finish up this point, but they're also creating these impossible standards for people like this officer so that they can push that narrative because they can't have him be reasonable.
00:45:13.380Okay, so like her turning left would have only rammed the remainder of the front grill into him, but whatever.
00:45:19.820And here is that video of the Baltimore, this is a viewer warning because it's disturbing, of this Baltimore, Maryland officer who had a face-to-face confrontation with the driver of a car who she was trying to pursue.
00:45:33.360She pursued him into a cul-de-sac, he got out of the car, she had her gun drawn, she was trying to make an arrest, and she believed he was complying with the commands.
00:45:43.740And a second later, I mean, it took him a second to get back into that vehicle and ram her.
00:45:49.540He was no farther away from her than this officer was from Renee Good.
00:45:57.400That's my armchair assessment of the video.
00:46:00.140And it took him a second to kill this young female police officer.
00:46:23.100I'm not trying to be sensationalist for this poor fallen officer, Amy Caprio, God rest her.
00:46:28.240I just want you to see when we turn it on for the listening audience, on the right hand of the screen, you see her cop car with the lights swirling.
00:46:35.780And then right off to the left, you can kind of barely see his darker car kind of blends in a little.
00:47:44.600As opposed to this female officer in Baltimore and officers like this ICE agent who really do have to worry about dying every day on the job.
00:47:55.480Here's another insane man in Sot Zero B.
00:48:31.040Um, but I'm pretty sure we're going to hit a tipping point pretty soon.
00:48:35.180And if you guys don't reconsider your tactics, you're going to start going home in body bags or Ziploc bags.
00:48:41.100I really don't give a shit either way.
00:48:42.500We need to send the FBI to go speak with this gentleman because you speak like that and you show yourself with, I don't know guns, but it looked like an AR at the shooting range, shooting targets.
00:48:57.580And with rhetoric like that, you deserve a visit from the FBI.
00:49:25.420They don't deserve to be threatened to within an inch of their lives just for doing their job.
00:49:30.220This man did not show up on the job wanting to shoot Renee Good.
00:49:32.960He wound up that day out on the beat trying to do good, trying to arrest child molesters and other disgusting, violent criminals hurting the children and innocents of Minneapolis.
00:49:47.940And now guys like this and women like these loons are trying to endanger them so that their wives will be widows or husbands will be widowers.
00:49:56.000It's irresponsible and Tom Homan is 100% right to try to dial it back.
00:50:03.540He's begging for people to dial back the rhetoric.
00:50:06.980I'll play you that soundbite and show you some more about what's going on when we come right back.
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00:57:22.500It's just going to infuriate people more, which means there's going to be more incidents like this,
00:57:28.780because the hateful Reddit is not only continuing, now it's tripled down and doubled down.
00:57:33.320I'm asking you to respond to the protesters who say they feel less safe, who say they're concerned for their neighbors.
00:57:39.660Because you're looking at media reports and saying ISIS are terrorists, they're racist, they're the Nazis.
00:57:45.060They're listening to people saying that, you know, using the term disappearing people.
00:57:49.720It's because of the rhetoric, the hateful Reddit.
00:57:52.280So that small population out there that's already half nuts, they hear this rhetoric that ISIS is racist and the Nazis and they're disappearing people.
00:58:02.360That empowers them to do stupid things.
00:58:30.640I implore you to go watch the fucking press briefing that J.D. Vance and fucking K.K. Caroline are fucking doing right now for the White House.
00:58:41.960I implore you to go fucking watch that shit and then start doing something.
00:58:49.460We are literally about to lose our fucking country.
01:11:01.540And if they were to have gone through, if I would not have driven away, they would have thrown them through, and they would have hit us straight in the head.
01:42:12.160So last November, 2024, uh, the, the officer was dispatched to the hospital, the New Mexico, New Mexico, New Mexico hospital after a doctor called in a sexual, sexual abuse allegation.
01:42:29.560Um, the officer spoke with the boy's parents.
01:42:34.640The, uh, officer was told by the father that there had been multiple rumors that Timothy Busfield had been handsy with women.
01:42:41.480Uh, the, the dad informed the officer, sorry, the mother informed the officer that she had asked their children, who were 11 at the time, if anyone had ever touched them in a manner that made them uncomfortable.
01:42:53.660The children responded by asking, you mean like uncle Tim?
01:42:58.480Then the dad went to a law firm that recommended that the two children, that the two take the children to the hospital to be examined, which they did.
01:43:06.120Um, it was reported that while at the hospital, the staff there advised that it appeared the children had been groomed.
01:43:13.540Um, officer Osborne spoke with both children who did not disclose any sexual content contact at the time.
01:43:20.240However, both boys advised that Timothy Busfield, whom they referred to as uncle Tim, would tickle them on the stomachs and legs.
01:43:29.940The officer contacted a detective with the crimes against children unit, and they determined that the case did not meet their acceptance criteria at the time.
01:43:39.500That's where we left off, Matt, because presumably, you know, the tickling of the legs and the stomach is not going to be enough to make a busy sex crime prosecutor go after Timothy Busfield and can be explained, though it's obviously inappropriate.
01:43:52.740It's not necessarily criminal or so, so believed this sex crime investigator.
01:43:58.560He either believed that or he believed just not, doesn't rise to the level to pull me away from my, like, really disturbing, awful cases.
01:44:06.080Not to diminish what happened to those boys, allegedly.
01:44:09.400On 10-3-2025, so now we're 11 months later, the parents called Child Protective Services.
01:44:16.340And they told Child Protective Services that her children both disclosed that there was sexual abuse by Timothy Busfield from November 2022 to spring 2024.
01:44:29.840She said her children were groomed and sexually abused by him.
01:44:32.980She advised that in September, the one son, SL, or his initials, this is the main target, allegedly, reported to his therapist that Timothy Busfield had touched his penis and his bottom.
01:44:45.460Then, by October 17th, the cop called the parents, and the mother told the cop that SL had disclosed to his therapist, who's named, that Timothy had touched these areas on him.
01:45:03.060And she also advised that in September, SL had disclosed the same to his pediatrician.
01:45:12.600Then, the cop reviewed the therapist records, and he found out that this therapist diagnosed SL, who was 10 years old at the time, with post-traumatic stress disorder.
01:45:25.380He viewed an incident report submitted in September, a month earlier, by the therapist, that documented SL disclosing that a director of the series, in which SL was an actor, had engaged in inappropriate touching.
01:45:38.100It notes that previous disclosures were of being touched on the arm, chest and back.
01:45:42.720SL disclosed that the director had also touched his penis and buttocks.
01:45:46.840On 9-9-2025, this therapist documented SL disclosing having nightmares about the director touching him and waking up scared.
01:45:55.460SL also disclosed that the director had touched and rubbed him in his private areas three or four times and appeared to be ashamed.
01:46:03.920On Halloween of 2025, both SL and VL, his brother, were taken to an advocacy center for children.
01:46:13.800Cop says, I watched both interviews recorded and conducted by a forensic child interviewer.
01:46:18.040SL told the interviewer, the first time Tim touched him was when he was seven.
01:46:22.420He described it as his parents no longer having an iPad to watch the set.
01:46:25.880And when the director, Tim, said cut, Tim would come into the bedroom on the movie set and touch SL's private areas.
01:46:34.340SL provided a drawing to the interviewer showing him how he was alone with Tim.
01:46:38.460SL said Tim would grab his waist with both hands while SL was lying on his back in the bed on the movie set.
01:46:43.920Tim would then touch all over SL's body, including his private areas, where SL described his private area as where he poops and pees.
01:46:51.000SL said Tim touched those two areas over the clothing five to six times between sets.
01:46:58.260This is during one incident that he's describing.
01:47:01.980After the set was over, sets were over, SL said he was scared and he speed walked to his father and hid behind his dad.
01:47:10.700Then there was another time he was touched when he was eight years old.
01:47:13.820And SL describes the movie set, same as the first, said this time it happened three to four times, same two areas, and said he was very afraid of Tim and relieved when he was off set.
01:47:24.400Then you've got the interview by the safe house interviewer of VL, the brother.
01:47:30.180VL explained that Mr. Tim started touching them for the first two years and he did not want to say anything because he did not want to be mean to Tim.
01:47:37.860VL said Mr. Tim would start touching him with his hands about his body while they were filming in the house.
01:47:43.820VL advised that it was about his body, but did not disclose that he was touched on his buttocks or penis area.
01:47:52.580Now, I mean, I think that just lends credibility to the family because if I were a mother looking to get a big payday from Timothy Busfield or Warner Brothers,
01:48:01.380I would do my level best to have both of the boys have a consistent story and double my money with both kids telling that they had been abused in exactly the same way to show a pattern,
01:48:14.320to show it was the most egregious stuff, to get criminal charges.
01:48:17.320I think it actually helps the family that the VL child did not make that allegation, but SL did.
01:48:24.040And Matt, the other thing we see from the police affidavit is witness after witness who worked on that set verifying that the woman who's supposed to be watching them was not there,
01:48:35.540was frequently not watching them, and also verifying that SL started his stint on this show as a bubbly, sweet, happy boy,
01:48:43.440and progressively went downhill, seemed unhappy, depressed, more introverted, sullen, and clearly was not enjoying being on this set within the two years,
01:48:55.980by the end of the two years on which he was in the show, that he started acting differently.
01:49:01.740And on top of all that, there was an anonymous complaint about Timothy Busfield that was made to, through SAG-AFTRA, the union,
01:49:14.260about an incident that happened on the set of The Cleaning Lady,
01:49:17.500who claimed to have witnessed an incident in the hair and makeup trailer,
01:49:20.780where Tim Busfield entered and kissed a minor male on the face as the minor was getting a haircut.
01:49:26.220The anonymous complainant further alleged that there are pictures of Mr. Busfield tickling and caressing the head and body of minor boys.
01:49:36.400That, we don't know for sure who that was, but there was a hair and makeup person who spoke with police
01:49:40.820and said she witnessed Timothy come into the trailer where she was working and kissed the two children actors,
01:49:47.740child actors on their foreheads, but noted their parents were present at the time.
01:49:51.880Um, and this makeup artist said everyone knew to avoid Timothy because he was creepy.
01:49:56.920On the other side of the ledger, we have the fact that the boys didn't initially say that they were touched in the most violative of ways.
01:50:03.380And we had the lead actress telling the Warner Brothers investigator, though not the police,
01:50:07.820that the mother was, quote, that she did not like her sons being terminated.
01:50:14.460She did not like what it brought out in her and that she would get her revenge against Timothy Busfield.
01:50:20.260Okay, so all that, Matt, says to you that this is not provable or that he didn't do it?
01:51:19.040It's like, this is straight up the middle.
01:51:21.400The affidavit, the way the officer wrote that was also spot on, that these guys will often ingratiate themselves with families to get access to the kids.
01:51:30.100And I think one of the reasons why I think a lot of people in your audience are disturbed right now, Megan, is these cases are ubiquitous.
01:51:40.880You know, serial killers are relatively rare in society.
01:51:45.060There's a lot of them, but statistically, they're rare.
01:51:50.640In fact, we have three different names, right?
01:51:52.500This is what would be known as pedophilia.
01:51:54.900And of course, this man is presumed innocent, but pedophilia is prepubescent kids.
01:52:01.080Hebophilia is kids that are going through puberty, and ephebophilia are kids that are post-pubescent, like our friend Jeffrey Epstein, friggin' dirtbag.
01:52:10.000Just to be clear for the record, Matt, so what you're saying is, if you're a molester who's interested in the very young children, you're called a pedophile.
01:52:18.480But if you're into the more young teenage type, you're called an herbophile under the law.
01:52:24.600It's an ephebophile if it's post-pubescent.
01:52:30.840They're all, I mean, collectively, we can call them all perverts, right?
01:52:35.220It's any child under the age of 18, and arguably, some of the older ones are even worse because they can impregnate their victims, and you see a million of those.
01:52:45.500But if I can make a quick connection here, if you don't mind, as we sit in the green room ready to come on.
01:52:51.920Mark's doing fancy things in court today, but listening to some of the other speakers concerning Minneapolis, you know.
01:52:58.680Wait, we'll get to that, but Mark's got to leave in a second.
01:53:00.660Hold your point, because I do want to get the busy gear goes in on this.
01:53:04.740The interesting thing that I think Matt was dancing around, and I know Matt long enough and well enough to know, this is a DA reject, as we call it, if this had been presented to Matt.
01:53:22.880Well, it's not in New Mexico where this is, but if this were Matt, who is a very experienced, probably the number one sex prosecutor in California, at least in my experience, he would have rejected a case like this.
01:53:39.280And so it's interesting to me that in New Mexico, this was filed.
01:53:44.140I think that, you know, we remember not too recently in New Mexico, another case that went off the rails with a celebrity.
01:53:52.740And I'm just not, I'm not convinced right now that this is a, this rises to the level based on even everything you've just read in that affidavit.
01:54:04.500Which Matt is right, this is straight up the middle of a lot of most affidavits I see in these kinds of cases.
01:54:12.660And a lot of that stuff is never going to see a courtroom.
01:54:56.880When it hits the news, if this has happened to others, guarantee you they're calling somebody.
01:55:02.540And he's probably, or a lawyer, has been made aware of that too.
01:55:06.760I'm not trying to condemn the guy before he has his day in court.
01:55:09.760I'm actually, I'm very disturbed by Warner Brothers and by the fact that it appears these two kids were not protected.
01:55:16.460That they were allowed private time on the set with an adult 68-year-old man without anybody watching, which is not okay.
01:55:23.880And they've set themselves up for this kind of an allegation, the studio and Timothy Busfield.
01:55:30.460I also do find it very disturbing he's saying, I don't know them.
01:55:33.600When the affidavit goes on to allege, Matt, that he and his wife, Melissa Gilbert, had been taking these boys out for dinners, that he was being called Uncle Tim, that she was buying them gifts, including Christmas gifts.
01:56:34.420And then one of the, one of the most common cases that you see in sexual assault, and this is really a sad reflection of kind of the modern world, is you see custody disputes and you see allegations that essentially are prompted by one parent or the other.
01:56:51.040And I had an old detective and his name was, he was at Huntington Beach, great guy, and I'm completely blanking on his name, which makes me a bad person.
01:56:59.660But he's going to be little yellow stickies with R&R written on the filing packet, which stood for read and reject, which meant, and you look and it's like, okay, custody dispute.
01:57:10.840Okay, here's an allegation of sexual abuse by one parent or the other.
01:57:14.500And those are, there's a ton of those.
01:57:50.520You almost always, at the age of 68, this can't be his first rodeo if he's good for it.
01:57:55.160So with the media, you would expect to see it.
01:57:58.480But, you know, there's so much emotion on this issue, as there should be.
01:58:03.160But one of the reasons why there is so much is that abuse of this kind is so common in our society.
01:58:10.800One of the questions that the judge always asks when you're picking one of these juries, which is what Mark is doing right now, not on sex case,
01:59:09.140If somebody crosses the Rubicon, and they decide they're going to take action on their impulse to abuse children,
01:59:15.600whether that's pre-, during-, or post-pubescent kids, they're a frigging monster, and they're going to keep doing it again.
01:59:22.460And my first week in sexual assault, buddy of mine, Ted Burnett, I asked him, like, what makes these guys do it, Ted?
01:59:28.740And he was a cerebral guy, and he said, it's green worms in their brain, is what he said.
01:59:35.020Nobody knows how the green worms get in there.
01:59:36.980Sure as shit, nobody knows how to get the green worms out, but as long as they draw breath, they're going to keep doing it as long as they can.
02:01:40.660But I'm here to tell you, and this is a word we keep hearing lately, a lot of times it involves ICE, right?
02:01:46.920And I have statistics that I want to share with you.
02:01:48.720Listening to those people in the previous segment as I'm sitting in the green room waiting to come on and the septum rings and all that, the railing against federal law enforcement, these are some of the people that are most dedicated to getting sex offenders arrested, putting them in prison, and then ultimately deporting them if they're not here legally, right?
02:02:09.940And in 2023, ICE arrested 4,390 sex offenders.
02:02:20.820And nobody said a frigging word because back then, shockingly, we all kind of agreed it's a bit of a bipartisan issue.
02:02:27.820We're going to protect kids who aren't political at all.
02:02:30.900Children deserve the protection of all adults regardless of what side of the political aisle they are on, right?
02:02:36.620So in 2024, last year, first year of President Trump, ICE arrested 16,552 sex offenders, and that is their priority.
02:02:48.580They had a special operation in the state of Florida called Operation Dirtbag, and that's the federal law enforcement officials, the women and men that do that are critical to protecting our kids.
02:03:00.080And these people that think it's a good idea to block their cars, they have no idea who they're going after.
02:03:06.480They prioritize sex offenders and violent felons and gang members, but particularly given how many there are, these federal agents in ICE and other federal agencies prioritize sex offenders.
02:03:19.260And there should be no rational debate about that.
02:03:22.820So somebody who goes and drives their car-
02:03:28.040If you're making an announcement, we are now, for the next six months, only targeting child sex offenders, only child sex molesters, what would they do?
02:03:40.660I mean, it would be a very interesting experiment to see whether the same, you know, Karen Antifas would stay out there.
02:03:48.340You know what, I think they probably would, because they're so, these people are so crazy.
02:03:54.200I don't know if it's the septum rings that's making them mad, because every time you look like, it's like-
02:03:58.800It is related to being extremely homely, it is.
02:04:04.140But it's, but as a, look, as a prosecutor, it is maddening to me, because I know the work that ICE agents are doing as a sexual assault prosecutor.
02:04:12.360And same thing with the FBI, they devote a tremendous amount of resource to that.
02:04:16.960And the idea that somebody is blocking them, again, they're like, they think they're doing good.
02:04:22.080I think their motivations, I want to believe that they're, that they think they're doing the right thing.
02:04:26.620But they're so frigging stupid, because they don't understand what ICE is actually attempting to accomplish.
02:04:33.040And at the end, the people who benefit are their own children.
02:04:38.660Yeah, I don't understand how a mother could get out there and try to stop these arrests of these molesters.
02:04:42.600All right, I want to keep going, because I don't have that much time.
02:04:44.720I've got to ask you about Renee Good's wife.
02:04:48.940We played the video earlier of her antagonizing that cop, and now we know from his own camera on his iPhone that she was the one who said, drive, baby, drive.
02:05:01.200And we also know that the two of them had been working together to train, to antagonize ICE.
02:05:06.300She was part of the perpendicular parking that Renee Good did earlier, we believe.
02:05:12.640So could there be charges against Renee Good's wife?
02:05:17.060Yes, there could be charges against her wife, and not even for the aiding and evetting or the encouraging of driving forward.
02:05:24.860But this is, she keeps being referred to as a protester, and from a purely legal breakdown, okay, she comes from Colorado.
02:05:35.620I've read that she's a paid protester.
02:05:37.420I haven't seen the evidence on that or not.
02:05:39.000But when you get together with a group of people, including just one other person in your car, and you decide you're going to go out and you're going to impede federal agents attempting to arrest violent felons or sex offenders, that's a conspiracy.
02:05:52.860It's two or more people agreeing to go and commit a crime.
02:05:55.800And if it's federal agents and you cross state lines, it is a federal felony.
02:07:07.840Legally, there's a case called Graham v. O'Connor.
02:07:10.440It's a 1989 U.S. Supreme Court case that talks about how we analyze use of force by police officers.
02:07:19.320And it is a seminal – it's a seminal case in American jurisprudence.
02:07:23.820And essentially, it stands for the proposition that it must be viewed from the position of the police officer when he or she perceived the threat.
02:08:33.200Right. So it is – and it's a mix of that officer's individual experience, their fear of what's going on, along with the objective circumstances that the officer is faced with.
02:08:48.040The chief of Chicago PD, of all places, and I was kind of surprised, he went on a rant talking about how if you're blocking federal agents intentionally, that's how people get ambushed.
02:09:01.440We found out it was from October, but it was – the point was totally well taken.
02:09:04.980But there was another Supreme Court case that says it doesn't matter if the shooting – if the first bullet was justified, because cops are trained to shoot to kill.
02:09:15.620If they're firing their gun, they're trying to kill.
02:09:18.720There's no shooting in the leg nonsense like we see in the movies.
02:09:21.240But there's another Supreme Court precedent that says you don't start evaluating the second and the third bullet when they all come together like that.
02:09:29.700That's not – because there are a lot of people saying, oh, but the second shot and the third shot, Matt, are the reason to charge this guy.
02:09:35.460Yeah, and that's – number one, that's exactly what the Supreme Court prohibits.
02:09:43.220That's dissecting something in a rapidly evolving situation that that person has to make split-second decisions for their own safety and the safety of other officers and the safety of other, quote-unquote, protesters, too.
02:09:58.060And the next thought here, Megan, is what's the endgame?
02:10:02.120You know, there's a thing known as officers-created jeopardy, which is something I've been dealing with on a case I have, a homicide case in Los Angeles County right now where an innocent police officer has been charged with a homicide for shooting a gang member in 2018 because the guy, high on meth, sitting in a stolen car, murder suspect in a separate case, all of a sudden reaches for what anybody would think was a sawed-off shotgun.
02:10:27.160Later, it turns out to be a BB gun, and BLM gets involved, and they took a principled stand.
02:10:33.460Jackie Lacey, who's a friend of mine, former DA of L.A., took a principled stand, refused to file because he was innocent.
02:10:39.360George Gascogne comes in, files that case.
02:10:42.120Now you've got a guy who is a model police officer, number one in his academy class, father of two kids, little league coach, one of the best cops I've ever worked with in 33 years, and he gets charged with a homicide.
02:10:53.640Imagine this, for those circumstances, and I'm going to win it one way or another.
02:10:59.880We have a new DA, Nathan Hockman, who is solid, okay, and I'm hoping they're going to dismiss it, but what is the endgame here?
02:11:09.000You've got the governor, you've got the mayor all calling for this agent to be prosecuted with murder, and first of all, there's a whole procedure that they're going to have to survive in order to do that.
02:11:21.860A federal judge gets to make the call of whether or not he was acting reasonably, essentially, in conformity with his duties, which I think that's going to be tough for any prosecution to get around.
02:11:30.820But these people that keep talking, frigging Tim Walls and all these people, we don't do mob justice in America, or we're not supposed to anyway.
02:11:37.760And the mayor who keeps blabbing, I think that they, at the very least, if they're ever successful in getting a murder prosecution against them, there's no way that's going to be in Minneapolis.
02:11:47.080And it's going to be in some other county, like we saw in Koberger, where they have to remove it from the local area.
02:12:43.960I think they came forward, and this is not atypical to see them, kids who have been abused, come forward and first admit a little, only to later admit a lot.
02:13:10.140And I also think it's interesting that people on the set saw the change in the one boy, that somebody not knowing these boys were making this allegation made an anonymous complaint about him and what she perceived as inappropriate touching of the boys.
02:13:26.380This is all that he's had two other cases in which, not young kids, but a 17-year-old woman and then a 28-year-old woman accused him of, in one case, like, physically assaulting her in a movie theater.
02:13:41.180So desperate was he to get in her pants.
02:13:42.700And they were on a date, and she was basically saying he went off on me.
02:13:47.780And then another woman, the specifics of which I don't know, the 17-year-old, but he tried to sue a law firm that represented her for defamation.
02:13:57.100He lost, and a court ordered him to pay that firm $150,000 in their legal fees, and he also was forced to settle with that 17-year-old.
02:14:06.060I don't know what happened, but here's what I do know.
02:14:08.700Melissa Gilbert, on November 15th, when she decided to get online and start lecturing me about abuse cases, knew full well that her husband had been accused of molesting two young boys.
02:14:27.760She went online and decided to try to make herself into a victim in the whole 15-year-olds are also abuse victims, which people claimed that I disagreed with, which I would never disagree with.
02:14:43.680I have interviewed girls of that age who have been abused.
02:14:46.900I've interviewed girls who have grown from that age and tell me about the abuse when they were that age.
02:14:50.560In no world did I ever say that they weren't abused victims.
02:14:54.760I was making a distinction between the legal term pedophile and who it encompasses, and that is it.
02:15:01.380And these fucking loons decided to run some campaign suggesting I didn't think it was a deal for a 15-year-old to get assaulted or abused.
02:15:14.960She lectured me a couple months ago when I said if they're rebooting Little House on the Prairie, which they reportedly are, they better not woke-ify it.
02:15:22.060And she got on and waxed poetic about how she thinks Little House on the Prairie was woke and correcting me and my views that she didn't like.
02:15:28.860She's been lecturing Trump for years now on the abuse issue.
02:16:55.100He was totally fine with everything he was asking you to do, which included kissing a 23-year-old Dean Butler.
02:17:00.500And why are you suggesting if Michael Landon hadn't been there and your mom that Dean Butler would have raped you in front of the film set?
02:17:09.320This is her trying to, like, paint herself into the prism of abuse, both as an alleged recipient of it while she was on camera in front of the world and as an avenger of it.
02:17:21.600And, my friends, I am telling you, she, with the cooperation of People Magazine, which is the new gawker, that's how gross they've become, especially the digital version.
02:17:34.360I know the woman who runs it, and she's gone full tabloid.
02:17:38.900This woman begs me behind the scenes for little tips about anybody.
02:17:42.400She begs me for a crumb about any celebrity.
02:17:44.660She'll stick the knife into any celebrity and then go to their face and say, oh, I'll do a lovely feature for you.
02:17:50.800But trust me, she's calling people like me for dirt on any celebrity she can find.
02:17:56.380So, People Magazine decided to blow this up, and people ran with it because they made it about me, which is always fun.
02:18:03.240And Melissa Gilbert, the whole time, was obviously trying to cover up for the huge sexual molestation scandal that was about to break in her own marriage.
02:18:17.380She's mentioned repeatedly in the police affidavit on buying the presents for the boys in what the cop is calling an atmosphere of grooming.
02:18:27.840So, she's got to answer for some of these things, too.
02:18:32.060And we now know she was on the phone call in which they outed all these complaints against Timothy Busfield by both boys and the touching of the genitalia.