The Megyn Kelly Show - Daring Rescue Mission, Trump's MAJOR Warning to Iran, and a Very Special Makeover, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1289

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.300 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.420 Oh, we have a lot, a lot, a lot to bring to you today. What a variety too.

00:00:19.480 First of all, I hope everyone had a wonderful and relaxing Easter Sunday

00:00:23.160 and belated happy Passover to our Jewish friends.

00:00:25.840 Can I tell you, something crazy happened in our family at Easter Mass yesterday.

00:00:32.720 We went, the five of us, and we went to the 9 a.m. Mass, and we got there early because

00:00:39.840 we knew that it would be, you know, there are a lot of people, a lot of Catholics only

00:00:45.360 go on Christmas and Easter.

00:00:47.000 We are not five of them.

00:00:48.420 We go every week, but we knew that it was going to be extra crowded, so we got there

00:00:52.400 about 15 minutes in advance.

00:00:54.080 I thought that was going to be enough to get a seat.

00:00:56.540 Wrong, wrong.

00:00:57.780 We did not get a seat, even though we were 15 minutes early, which seems like a lot to

00:01:01.000 me.

00:01:01.200 Anyway, we didn't get a seat.

00:01:03.400 So we wound up standing in the aisle, which was toward the front of the church.

00:01:08.180 We didn't stand in the way back because, you know, we were close enough that we were almost

00:01:12.380 seated.

00:01:13.280 Anyway, so the five of us were lined up along the side of the church wall, right by a window

00:01:20.380 and to the side of the pews and to the other parishioners.

00:01:24.640 And we made it all the way through to the homily.

00:01:29.680 And during the homily, the way we were standing,

00:01:32.360 it was Yates, our eldest, who's 16,

00:01:36.420 next to him, Doug, next to him, Thatcher, who's 12,

00:01:41.100 then me, then Yardley behind me,

00:01:43.780 as you're looking at the front of the church.

00:01:46.200 And as we get to the homily,

00:01:48.340 the priest was giving a very nice homily. It was, of course, obviously it was about the

00:01:53.100 resurrection, but it was more than that. It was like apologetics. It was all about the proof.

00:01:59.460 How do we know Jesus was resurrected? What is the actual hardcore proof of it? And as you may know,

00:02:05.760 as you, because you listen to this show, I've been very, very into that ever since Charlie died.

00:02:09.780 And I've been reading everything I can get my hands on to educate me on it. And so I was like,

00:02:15.460 oh, this is right in my wheelhouse. I was very into it. And in the middle of the homily,

00:02:20.780 my daughter Yardley, who's 14 for another week or so, I said, mom, tell Thatcher and Yates to

00:02:26.400 bend their knees. And I didn't know what she was saying that for. I figured, you know, like just

00:02:30.660 to stay comfortable or whatever. But I was like, honey, listen to this. This is important, right?

00:02:35.320 Because it was right in the middle of the homily. Well, within like a minute or so, the priest

00:02:42.720 ended the homily, and Thatcher, who's right in front of me, my 12-year-old, turns around and said,

00:02:47.460 Mom, I feel nauseous. I'm like, uh-oh. So I'm like, okay, let's go outside. So I told my husband

00:02:56.860 and my older two, we're going to step outside for a bit. So we start walking down a very crowded

00:03:02.100 aisle. You know how it is on Easter. It's like people on, like completely crowded. But anyway,

00:03:07.460 we're making our way, and he's going really slowly. He's walking right in front of me. I have

00:03:10.620 my hands on his shoulder. And I go, honey, do you think we can go a little faster? Because I'm

00:03:18.000 worried he's going to throw up in the middle of the aisle. And he didn't respond. So I kind of

00:03:25.400 peeked around to look at his face and he did not look good. He looked ashen. I was like, oh no.

00:03:31.800 And just as I'm realizing he doesn't look good, he starts to go down. He goes down. I'm like,

00:03:37.940 oh my God. So he kind of crumbled almost. It was like a slow-mo faint crumbling forward.

00:03:44.420 I grabbed him. There was a nice man at the end of the pew who kind of reached out and helped grab

00:03:49.400 him so that he didn't have a hard fall. And then we laid him down to where like I had his head.

00:03:56.220 And one of the parishioners was like, put his feet up. By this point, Doug and my other two had run

00:04:00.520 over. And so Doug got his feet up. I took off my jacket, put it under his head. And now you're

00:04:08.100 just kind of waiting for him to come back. He was gone. Not gone, gone. I just mean he was

00:04:13.120 like clearly unconscious and it was obvious he had fainted. And now you just have the waiting

00:04:17.780 game of like, what's going to happen next? Everyone in the church was so sweet. People

00:04:27.140 were like, here's some water. Do you want us to call a doctor? I'm like, I think he's going to

00:04:30.820 be okay. You could tell like he was breathing and he was like able to move. He was just unconscious

00:04:36.540 or I guess, I think you do call it unconscious when you've fainted. And sure enough, he opened

00:04:42.240 his eyes back after, I don't know, a minute roughly. And then he slowly kind of sat up

00:04:49.160 and I, I'm not, as soon as I realized he totally was okay and it was a faint, I'm not, it took

00:04:54.480 everything in me not to cry out, he is risen. I didn't do it like this. It's inappropriate.

00:05:04.660 We've already been disruptive enough, but it occurred to me. Anyway, we got him up and we

00:05:13.200 walked him out. And can I tell you, he was like, fine. As soon as we left the mask, like he got

00:05:18.140 some fresh air. Obviously, his vasovagal situation resolved. And my husband, Joe, because we go

00:05:26.160 between two different churches, and my husband's like, we could still make the 945. Of course,

00:05:32.160 my kids' eyes are like, what? We did not. So we did not. I don't think we technically fulfilled

00:05:37.160 our Sunday obligation because we did not get communion, but we had a good reason. I think

00:05:41.860 God understood. And then today, okay, so then my daughter was like, mom, you should have told him

00:05:50.180 to bend his knees like I told you. I'm like, what? That was about not fainting. And now in the past

00:05:57.260 24 hours, I have learned so many parents have had this happen with their kids in this exact way,

00:06:04.040 or it often happens, I guess, at choirs, like chorus performances where kids are standing for

00:06:09.680 a long time. And my daughter Yardley had heard this from her middle school principal who told

00:06:15.600 him a story about a girl passing out while on the choir roster on the top of the top riser and she

00:06:20.960 got hurt. She always reminds the girls, bend your knees when you're standing up straight for a long 0.99

00:06:25.860 time. And I just asked online AI this morning, is it common for kids to pass out when standing for

00:06:32.500 a long time with locked knees? Answer, yes, it's actually pretty common, especially in kids and

00:06:36.240 teenagers. What you're describing is a classic setup for a brief fainting episode called

00:06:40.600 vasovagal syncope. Syncope? Syncope? Why it happens. When someone stands for a long time,

00:06:47.220 locks their knees, and doesn't shift their weight or move, it reduces the normal muscle pumping

00:06:51.600 action in the legs that helps blood return to the heart. This can lead to blood pooling in the legs,

00:06:56.440 a temporary drop in blood pressure, reduced blood flow to the brain, and fainting. Kids and teens

00:07:02.500 are especially prone because their nervous systems

00:07:05.080 are a bit more reactive

00:07:06.640 and they may not recognize the early warning signs.

00:07:10.640 Then they say it shows up a lot during school assemblies,

00:07:13.320 choir or performances,

00:07:14.820 ceremonies like graduations, parades, church services,

00:07:17.960 standing information like scouts or ROTC.

00:07:21.360 Warning signs, most kids feel something first

00:07:23.160 like dizziness, lightheadedness, nausea,

00:07:26.280 sweating, tunnel vision,

00:07:27.540 which he also told me later that he had

00:07:30.060 ringing in the ears.

00:07:31.340 So in any event, he was fine.

00:07:33.420 They say that prevention is don't lock your knees, just like Yardley said, keep a slight bend, shift your weight, or subtly move your legs, stay hydrated, and eat beforehand.

00:07:43.980 Indeed, he had skipped breakfast yesterday morning.

00:07:47.200 So what a crazy situation.

00:07:49.780 Good to know for us and for other parents out there and for kids.

00:07:54.880 My daughter was right. 0.86

00:07:56.360 Lock your knees. 0.73

00:07:56.920 What the priest was saying was important, but as it so happened this particular Sunday morning,

00:08:02.360 what my daughter was saying to me was more important for my particular family, and I wish

00:08:07.060 I had listened. So anyway, there was our drama. He was fine, and we had a very nice Easter,

00:08:13.420 spent it together, the five of us, just as any ideal for me is. So anyway, lots of love to you

00:08:19.680 and yours, and there you go, news you can use. There is a lot of other news this morning,

00:08:24.540 moving fast and furiously on this very busy Monday around Iran and other subjects, President

00:08:31.500 Trump has set an 8 p.m. Eastern deadline tomorrow evening for the Iranians to open up the Strait 0.75

00:08:37.560 of Hormuz. Of course, this is like less than a week after he said, we're just going to leave and

00:08:45.500 they're going to open up the Strait. It's going to happen naturally. Like we don't care about

00:08:48.100 the Strait, but I guess we do care about it because now we're saying that deadline he set

00:08:52.680 a while ago of like 10 days to open the strait still holds, even though we said last week

00:08:58.000 kind of doesn't. Anyway, I guess it does hold. And the president saying if they do not open

00:09:04.900 the strait, the president will target Iran's bridges and energy plants. And you may have heard

00:09:11.060 he issued that warning in a very Trumpian way as he put it on Truth Social on Easter morning, 1.00

00:09:16.900 quote, open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards. That's F-U-C-K-I-N with an apostrophe 1.00

00:09:24.700 at the end, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah, unquote. Okay, that's 0.62

00:09:32.440 real. I actually texted my team. Is this real? It's real. That did come from Trump. You're going

00:09:38.020 to want to stay tuned to our entire show because in the next hour, Mr. Trump is expected to hold

00:09:42.940 a press conference, which will likely include details of the dramatic rescue. Thank God we

00:09:47.900 left on Friday with the one pilot not having been found. They found him. Thank God. And he's okay.

00:09:56.700 And the rescue appears made for a movie. It's like a seriously dramatic situation.

00:10:04.820 He was a weapons systems officer and his plane was shot down deep into enemy territory in Iran

00:10:11.860 on Friday. By the time we went to air then, we had the pilot, but we didn't have this guy.

00:10:17.480 And now we do. Trump says he has some minor injuries, but he's going to be just fine.

00:10:21.840 You're going to want to hear about this rescue, no matter how you feel about the war. Just

00:10:26.020 hats off to the amazing efforts of our military to retrieve our guys. And what we know so far

00:10:34.680 is that it involved a dramatic SEAL Team 6 nighttime op, along with the CIA deception

00:10:40.340 campaign. I mean, those SEAL Team 6 guys, these are just badasses. Like those guys, the Green

00:10:46.980 Berets, the Rangers. It's just next level. It's very impressive. First though, okay, first, we

00:10:53.980 started on something dramatic in my family. We teased what we're going to get to that's dramatic

00:10:58.240 in Iran. And now we've got something kind of fun. And there's a reason we have to start the show

00:11:04.120 with it. It's going to become apparent to you in a minute. It's something about our good friend,

00:11:08.980 Emily Jashinsky, who is here with me in the Red Studio. She's outside the studio. I don't see her

00:11:14.700 yet, but she's going to be coming out on set in a minute. Now, Emily is host of After Party, 0.99

00:11:20.960 which is her own show on the MK Media Podcast Network. You can watch it live every Monday

00:11:25.560 and Wednesday at 9 p.m., or you can catch it as a pod after the fact they post it.

00:11:29.680 She also hosts the MK Wrap-Up Show that comes on right after our show does on Sirius XM channel

00:11:34.520 111. Well, recently we decided it might be fun to do something for maybe some contributors to the

00:11:45.880 show and possibly some viewers. And we asked Emily if she would be our guinea pig. And she 1.00

00:11:54.900 is so sweet to me. She was like, I'll do it. And then behind the scenes, she told the team,

00:11:59.780 oh my God, I'm very uncomfortable with this. But she did it because she's such a great team player.

00:12:06.960 And here's what we did. We decided to hook her up with the very same team that's responsible

00:12:13.940 for much of my look each day. I should state for the record, I am not wearing a Molly look today.

00:12:21.940 I'm wearing a little leather jacket. Sure, she'd be fine with it, but she did not, just for the

00:12:29.760 been doing my styling now for many, many years, Molly Cohen, and my dear friend and hairstylist,

00:12:36.100 Sarah Clemente, who does hair and makeup, though I do my own makeup. And I put, we put Emily

00:12:44.620 Jashinsky through this glam team's professional skills. And we documented the whole thing. You're

00:12:53.920 going to see her, I don't know if we'd call it a makeover so much as a, like a sprucing,

00:12:58.340 a zhuzhing maybe she didn't need a makeover she was stunning then she's stunning now 1.00

00:13:02.840 but we documented the whole thing and we'll see the big reveal in a minute watch this

00:13:09.320 you want to look at yourself and be like i look good that's kind of our job finding that

00:13:16.160 aha moment where we make someone feel like themselves in the best way some people are 0.97

00:13:22.120 like oh i don't care you're lying you absolutely care no one wants to feel like shit my name is 0.92

00:13:28.320 Molly Cohen. I'm a stylist. My name is Sarah Clemente. I'm Megan's hair stylist. 0.98

00:13:33.360 I've been working with Megan for almost eight years. About six years. Traveling on the go,

00:13:40.000 doing her hair on a plane. In a car. The number one priority today, Link,

00:13:46.880 making sure that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless, even at CRG.

00:13:52.240 We've really defined Megan's look very effortless.

00:13:57.240 A little sex appeal.

00:13:59.240 Let's hope the absence of double-sided tape doesn't come back to haunt me.

00:14:02.240 And then also very serious and professional.

00:14:06.240 We kind of love walking that fine line.

00:14:09.240 Not me, obviously.

00:14:11.240 Before my time.

00:14:12.240 Oh, this one.

00:14:13.240 Whatever you do, don't do this.

00:14:15.240 No, I just do what Molly tells me.

00:14:19.240 Oh, look how far we've come.

00:14:21.240 come the school says they're gonna be out of luck new york times reporter judith miller says she

00:14:25.680 went from being conservative two big things happen up top you know to having more fun with it sexier

00:14:33.240 yeah what a crazy week in news it has been choice that you can make anybody hot she always says that

00:14:38.720 i love that yeah is that true i think so and i'm telling you if you fall in sarah's good graces

00:14:44.700 She can make you look like me in, like, two months. 0.72

00:14:48.260 Wow.

00:14:50.460 I think that we're going to see a different side of Emily.

00:14:54.300 Emily has full potential.

00:14:55.820 Ready for this?

00:14:56.680 It is about the most uncomfortable thing you could ever ask me to endure.

00:15:03.020 Welcome to my closet, everyone.

00:15:04.220 Not a big hair, makeup, clothes person, as people may know.

00:15:08.120 I love denim.

00:15:09.580 Denim.

00:15:10.260 I'm actually even wearing a version of this shirt.

00:15:12.420 This, I don't even know what to say.

00:15:15.420 I don't like having to dress up.

00:15:17.420 Are you friends? Well...

00:15:19.420 You usually get away with jeans on the bottom

00:15:21.420 because only your upper body is on the camera.

00:15:23.420 How would you describe your personal style?

00:15:26.420 I reject the question.

00:15:29.420 I don't know if anyone remembers the cartoon Doug from the 90s,

00:15:32.420 where he goes to his closet,

00:15:34.420 and it's, like, 20 different versions of the exact same outfit.

00:15:38.420 But as a child, I watched that, and I was like, that is the dream.

00:15:41.420 is the dream. I'm into feeling even more confident and about, you know, hair and

00:15:48.500 makeup and clothes and all that because it's tough. It's tough, especially when

00:15:52.580 you don't have a lot of professional help. Is anything off-limits?

00:15:58.340 Just a little bit goes a long way. I'm like, that's what we are doing for her.

00:16:03.260 It's a little bit. She's gonna warm up to it. You watch. So we got on Zoom two or

00:16:10.040 three weeks ago just to get an idea of what we're allowed to do, her vibe.

00:16:15.000 I was such a hardcore tomboy. Growing up, I just was hardcore. So I never really learned

00:16:21.020 how to do a lot of that type of thing. I don't have my ears pierced. I've never painted my

00:16:26.300 nails once in my life. I don't particularly want to.

00:16:29.460 Is there any person that you watch or follow whose style inspires you? Someone that you

00:16:36.220 just pause on?

00:16:37.440 Jennifer Aniston in The Morning Show.

00:16:39.740 Oh, I love that.

00:16:41.240 I am unprecedented.

00:16:42.800 Simple and, like, elegant.

00:16:45.640 She looks good in anything.

00:16:46.860 I think that you're way more girly than you think you are.

00:16:55.620 Today, I think we're just gonna kind of guide her

00:16:59.100 to put the pieces together and how to do it.

00:17:01.280 The essentials, like, you have a good base,

00:17:04.000 and then you just kind of build off of that base.

00:17:07.180 Very exciting, she said that she's okay with extensions.

00:17:11.460 Rub it all over you.

00:17:13.260 I got makeup for her that I think

00:17:15.260 she'll be able to do herself.

00:17:17.860 We're gonna work off what she already has.

00:17:19.980 I just want it to be easy for her.

00:17:22.700 Like, you could be a sexy tomboy.

00:17:24.220 Wow, amazing.

00:17:28.160 As we both kind of saw it, you saw it too.

00:17:30.340 When she started trying on the clothes,

00:17:32.580 at first she was like, uh.

00:17:35.500 I'm absolutely nervous.

00:17:37.460 This has to be one of my favorites.

00:17:38.700 And then she started liking it.

00:17:40.620 Slowly, confidence is building.

00:17:43.900 Wow.

00:17:44.740 That's where you can see that.

00:17:46.020 Oh.

00:17:46.860 She wants me that.

00:17:48.080 Helps everything.

00:17:49.000 If you're confident, you're thriving.

00:17:51.640 I want her to look at herself and smile and be like,

00:17:53.640 I actually like the way I look right now.

00:17:55.860 I so wish I just had a tiny earring there.

00:17:59.660 Do you want me to pierce it?

00:18:01.440 No, I don't want it. 0.91

00:18:02.540 I tried piercing her ear. 1.00

00:18:04.020 She said no.

00:18:05.140 You know I have a gun at home.

00:18:06.540 I'll just, I'll do it.

00:18:07.860 What kind of gun?

00:18:10.540 From how we first met her to today, transformation.

00:18:15.460 Attitude and all.

00:18:16.300 She's giving full girly vibes right now.

00:18:19.360 That gives it a little edge, you know?

00:18:21.780 Yeah, no, I like it.

00:18:22.940 Thoughts?

00:18:23.840 I don't love the talk.

00:18:25.000 She is now like kind of a diva.

00:18:27.740 That is not true.

00:18:29.460 This is the process of being like, I don't like that.

00:18:31.800 Yes, I like that.

00:18:32.740 I really like this.

00:18:33.640 So this is how it starts.

00:18:35.140 We are doing this my way.

00:18:38.140 I did not kill either of you, and I didn't even hit you.

00:18:42.140 I think the confidence is what Megan will be most excited about.

00:18:45.140 She's laughing, she's having fun, she's comfortable,

00:18:48.140 and I think Megan will see it instantly.

00:18:50.140 Need to pick a look for the big reveal.

00:18:52.140 Okay, can't wait to see.

00:18:55.140 This one's definitely my favorite.

00:18:57.140 Oh my God, I think Megan will lose it. 1.00

00:19:05.140 Ah, okay. So I haven't seen the final product, like the made over Emily, but she's here and

00:19:13.520 she's been getting her hair done and she's coming in now. So let's bring her in. 1.00

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00:20:23.920 She joins me now for the big reveal.

00:20:25.760 Oh my God!

00:20:28.040 Look at this sophisticated beauty.

00:20:30.400 Hi, Megan.

00:20:31.140 Hi.

00:20:32.000 Plug myself in.

00:20:32.780 Yeah, plug yourself in.

00:20:33.700 Oh, my God.

00:20:34.180 So first of all, you look so good.

00:20:35.960 Look at the waves.

00:20:37.340 Thank you.

00:20:37.880 The beach waves.

00:20:38.720 I mean, Sarah's an artist.

00:20:40.380 She's amazing.

00:20:40.900 She's amazing.

00:20:41.900 You are such a good sport.

00:20:44.380 I was happy to do it.

00:20:45.540 No, I wasn't.

00:20:46.520 You look incredible.

00:20:47.620 For the listening audience, she's got this great sky blue suit on, I would say, with 1.00

00:20:51.860 like a white tank underneath.

00:20:54.800 Yeah.

00:20:55.100 A good necklace.

00:20:55.680 A beautiful diamond necklace that she's got the beach comb-y.

00:20:59.780 Here.

00:21:00.340 Look at, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:01.480 Now they can see you.

00:21:02.320 Oh my God, she looks so pretty in your makeup. 0.97

00:21:04.320 Oh, again, Sarah is amazing.

00:21:06.160 But she, but it's nice.

00:21:07.200 It's not overdone.

00:21:08.200 Yeah, which I like.

00:21:09.300 And actually she helped me get to a point

00:21:11.920 where I can almost do it myself.

00:21:13.520 Is that right?

00:21:14.380 Okay, and she put a couple of fake hair pieces in there. 1.00

00:21:18.020 I am wearing the hair of some Eastern European woman 0.98

00:21:20.960 in all likelihood.

00:21:22.920 Most of it's mine, but not all of it.

00:21:25.020 So you think, you never know quite where it came from.

00:21:27.480 Yes, that's a good point.

00:21:28.520 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:21:29.520 If it's like, you know how they say, if you take like an organ from somebody, you might

00:21:33.500 take on some of their characteristics.

00:21:35.840 Don't tell me that.

00:21:38.080 Have you been feeling like, especially like bossy, like a German or? 0.98

00:21:42.620 I haven't, but now I might.

00:21:44.620 You've said it.

00:21:45.340 It's going to get in my head.

00:21:46.880 That hasn't really happened to me.

00:21:48.120 And I've got a bunch of other people's hair in my head too.

00:21:50.840 Once you get with Sarah, it's funny because she, she did my hair, as she said, for many

00:21:54.240 years.

00:21:54.440 And when she first started, she was like, why don't we put a couple pieces in there?

00:21:57.500 We'll just do a couple.

00:21:58.320 that she lures you in.

00:21:59.440 And then before you know it,

00:22:00.620 she's gotten you like full,

00:22:01.860 like as a friend of mine calls it,

00:22:03.800 full bombshell with the long hair.

00:22:05.520 But I do love it.

00:22:07.140 It does make you feel so good.

00:22:08.580 Well, thank you.

00:22:09.280 Yeah, Sarah's amazing. 0.96

00:22:10.220 Molly is amazing.

00:22:11.280 The whole team here is,

00:22:12.860 if people have never been behind the scenes,

00:22:15.020 which most haven't,

00:22:15.880 they just miss that part of it.

00:22:17.280 It's so much fun to be with the team.

00:22:19.180 Talk to me about what it felt like

00:22:20.540 to go through the wardrobe situation

00:22:21.940 because I love,

00:22:23.200 for the listening audience,

00:22:23.920 when Emily showed us her closet,

00:22:24.940 all literally all we saw

00:22:26.600 was the same denim button down.

00:22:29.160 I wore it today.

00:22:30.380 It's upstairs.

00:22:31.120 It's like 10 different versions of it,

00:22:33.780 but it's literally just like light denim,

00:22:35.880 dark denim, light denim, dark denim,

00:22:38.840 like Doug, like not my Doug,

00:22:40.280 but the Doug in the cartoon we featured there.

00:22:42.500 So what was it like for you

00:22:44.100 looking at this whole other, you know,

00:22:46.160 realm of possibilities

00:22:47.260 based on the Jennifer Aniston character?

00:22:49.940 You know, I hated every second of it, Megan.

00:22:52.500 Yeah.

00:22:52.740 But it's fine.

00:22:53.460 I mean, it's like it's a part of journalism and broadcast is just you have to look like you have it together and you can't look like a crazy person.

00:23:04.000 You have to look like you're organized and together and professional.

00:23:06.580 And so it's something that sooner rather than later you have to take care of and you have to do a good job with it.

00:23:10.840 So it was important and they made it so like it could have been so much worse.

00:23:15.140 Yeah, it's so much fun.

00:23:16.060 Well, and you know what I have found? Of course, obviously I pay them for their services, but I think they wind up paying for themselves because believe it or not, like you, I was also a tomboy growing up. My favorite picture of myself is me in a tire swing where you cannot tell if I'm a boy or a girl. I have boy hair. At my own request, by the way, I wanted that haircut. And I also am not very good at fashion when left to my own devices.

00:23:40.240 Like I can, as you pointed out that thing, like I can do the top, like this is not a Molly top, as I pointed out, but by the way, it's by Commando for those of you who like this little leather top, which is very cute, I think.

00:23:50.340 But I put myself in Molly's good hands and she can pull together all these beautiful outfits.

00:23:55.180 Sometimes I wear them on the show, but I always wear Molly clothes when I'm like at a public appearance, you know?

00:24:00.720 Because if you don't have that gift, it's kind of like home decorating.

00:24:04.500 You just don't have that gift.

00:24:06.440 Right.

00:24:06.840 And it's really, it's so artistic in the hands of a professional.

00:24:09.900 also like if you're just doing it as a normal person and an amateur, like you could probably

00:24:13.420 do it fine, but it's an art for people like Molly and she takes it seriously.

00:24:17.620 I don't know if we, if we do do it fine. I, I was not doing it fine. I would suggest the

00:24:23.000 all denim wardrobe. You also might not have been in the fine category.

00:24:28.160 I will gladly take that feedback, but I mean, that's like, it is an art when it's in someone's

00:24:34.040 hands like Molly. And so it was really, it was actually really cool to see that from her.

00:24:37.160 When you feel, how do you feel right now? Like all dressed up with the makeup and the hair,

00:24:42.360 you're looking bombshell-y. So I never, ever get nervous for anything like this. I was so nervous

00:24:47.920 about today because I don't, I just like, don't like being in the spotlight, which is kind of

00:24:52.160 weird. Like I don't, I'm not into like hair and makeup and clothes and that sort of thing,

00:24:55.560 but I feel great. I mean, I actually, to your point about somebody like Molly paying for herself,

00:25:00.180 I took her advice and like bought some of the stuff she picked out in different color. Well,

00:25:03.960 now I'm sounding good. But I really did do that. And I feel like I won't have to replace a lot of

00:25:09.960 it for a long time. Cause it's just like really, um, like reliable and you can mix and match.

00:25:17.260 And once you learn what looks good on you and what doesn't too, that's helpful. Like I recommend

00:25:21.920 seeing a stylist once if for no other reason than that reason, like you thought you look good in

00:25:26.940 high-waisted pants, but you don't, or you thought that, you know, this particular style was flattering

00:25:30.740 on you, but it isn't. And so that too pays for itself. Otherwise, it's like furniture. It's

00:25:37.020 true. I cannot decorate a home to save my life. And I have tried many times in the apartments

00:25:42.340 and the houses I've lived in over the years. And it wasn't until I hired a professional that I was

00:25:46.700 like, it's expensive, but it's less expensive than buying stuff you wind up hating and wanting

00:25:53.780 to get rid of it a year later. And that's the same is true with wardrobe, I think. And I do

00:25:59.060 think wardrobe is transformative. I mood dress, you know, like it's Monday. There's a lot of hard

00:26:04.140 news. We're talking about Iran. We're talking about soldiers. The political scene is rough

00:26:09.300 and tumble right now. I like having the leather on. I didn't know that about you, but that makes

00:26:13.940 so much sense now that you say that. Yeah. I'll tell you something. You know, when I did that

00:26:19.580 event for Charlie Kirk right after he was killed at Virginia Tech that night. So that was a scary

00:26:27.100 one because it was before our tour launched. It was like two weeks after Charlie had been murdered

00:26:33.500 and it was only the second tour stop. Michael Knowles did the first one post Charlie, I think

00:26:40.240 in Minnesota. And I did the second one post Charlie. And Charlie and I were supposed to be

00:26:45.200 there together. Anyway, there was no way I was not going, but it was extremely tense. And there

00:26:52.560 were multiple reasons why we were on edge that night. And Molly was sending me, Molly knew none

00:26:59.200 of this, you know, like she's, she does this fashion. She's not like totally immersed in the

00:27:02.760 political world. So she's sending me these beautiful outfits, like possible for me to wear.

00:27:07.080 And they were like, they were red or they were pink or they were like kind of floral or they

00:27:12.380 were girly, you know? And I wrote back to her something I've never said. I said, Molly, I said,

00:27:18.880 I'm worried about getting shot. I want something in all black. I want something that feels like 0.99

00:27:24.740 armor. And I did wear something that looked like armor that night. I did have leather on and I was

00:27:30.440 in all black. Not that it's going to protect you. It's just a, it's a psychological. It's

00:27:35.380 psychological. Yeah. And the same as like, if you're going to go to the white house and cover

00:27:39.380 president Trump, like I wouldn't wear this, but I would wear what you're wearing in a heartbeat

00:27:43.580 where you want to feel like a little elevated

00:27:45.960 and professional and like dress the part, you know?

00:27:50.340 And it matters to how other people perceive you.

00:27:53.620 It changes how what you're saying

00:27:56.520 is hitting other people's ears

00:27:57.600 and how they're seeing it and perceiving it.

00:27:59.720 So it is important.

00:28:00.460 I mean, you can be the most eloquent person in the world

00:28:02.460 and we love to think that it wouldn't matter,

00:28:05.780 you know, how you looked or what you,

00:28:06.920 but it does, it obviously does.

00:28:08.600 And so I think actually that's super interesting

00:28:10.600 because it changes.

00:28:11.860 I mean, it gives probably you psychologically, I'm just thinking about that example, the

00:28:16.300 gravity that you wanted to come to the table with, and then it also conveys it to other

00:28:19.720 people too.

00:28:20.400 Yes, absolutely.

00:28:21.600 So you do have to have like a couple of those wardrobe pieces where like, if you want to

00:28:25.480 look like a grownup, feel like a grownup and project like a grownup, you can.

00:28:29.720 But the tomboy instinct is very fun.

00:28:32.020 Like I, I also have that in me and like, yes, 100%.

00:28:36.960 I mean, I will dress, dress feminine. 0.98

00:28:39.420 Thanks to Molly.

00:28:40.180 She'll put me in things that I do like.

00:28:41.860 But left my own devices, I mean, truly what I'm normally, I mean, right now I have in my aloe pants, which I wear every day.

00:28:48.640 I'm going to show them.

00:28:49.280 I love them so much.

00:28:51.180 I mean, that looks so comfortable.

00:28:53.960 Truly, it's like, I don't want to show my stomach, but it says aloe.

00:28:59.120 And they're kind of baggy, and I really love them.

00:29:01.940 They look really comfortable. 0.97

00:29:02.880 And I have on UGG huge shit-kicking cloths, as you can see there. 0.99

00:29:08.240 They're very large. 0.98

00:29:09.260 They're the most comfortable thing I own.

00:29:10.640 But my point is simply when I'm here, generally I am comfortable and I love that. To me, it's

00:29:16.660 actually the biggest middle finger of leaving the mainstream media is that we can do what we want.

00:29:21.740 You can wear a t-shirt. You don't actually have to go glam for this job at all if you want,

00:29:25.820 if you don't want to. Normally I want to. And that's part of growing up in TV. I'm very used

00:29:31.520 to seeing myself on camera looking like this. And if I don't look made up, I feel like exposed.

00:29:37.200 Yeah, it's confidence. But I admire that you can go on with next to nothing on and feel totally

00:29:43.420 confident. I mean, I so I spent probably five or so plus years more than that doing a lot of Fox

00:29:49.640 and cable, and I absolutely hated every second of it. And so I felt completely liberated when

00:29:54.060 the pandemic rolled around and they were starting to do like zoom hits and that type of thing. So

00:29:57.760 I love this era, but you can't go full. And I noticed that right away that like I can't just

00:30:03.580 like take off all my makeup and wear like I try not to wear hats and that type of thing. But

00:30:08.840 you can find a balance. I'm finding a balance. I'm finding a balance. It is true. And I will

00:30:13.380 tell you that like any man that it's usually the men who don't want to get the makeup and

00:30:17.440 they all learn the hard way that if you don't, you look like Casper, the friendly ghost,

00:30:22.240 because these these lights that we need to light up the anchor's face so people can see

00:30:26.140 him or her wash you out. They get you. Yeah. So it's like you you just get used to like

00:30:31.860 putting it on and men they they only resist the first time once they've seen themselves

00:30:36.300 then they're like okay i'll do it because the men don't want the makeup oh they don't want to have

00:30:40.640 the compacts but they do yeah and they don't leave them when they're doing when they're going

00:30:44.340 on air they'll have them that's right they have them with them and then the normal men will wash 1.00

00:30:48.480 it off after they leave the men who leave it on all day are sus the normal men yeah it's a little

00:30:55.240 weird because it's not comfortable either if you're a man probably no but it's funny because

00:30:59.060 like i'm at the point now where like a completely naked face feels so foreign to me i mean i do that

00:31:06.420 twice a day i wake up like that and i in the evenings i take off all my makeup before i go

00:31:10.520 to sleep and i walk around my house with my family but like i just feel so naked without

00:31:16.440 that's the only way i can i can put it it's probably because the last like however many

00:31:19.920 years of your life you're every single day people look at you yeah and talk about you

00:31:25.260 and are, like, commenting on you.

00:31:27.120 Well, you wouldn't want to get, like, caught, you know,

00:31:30.460 by the paparazzi in your completely undone hair

00:31:33.280 and completely undone face.

00:31:35.000 I guess, I don't know.

00:31:36.420 I miss me all the time.

00:31:37.080 Wait, I mean, I feel like, but you're,

00:31:39.220 I just feel like you're naturally pretty.

00:31:40.860 I feel like, I don't know, I feel like I'm so pasty

00:31:43.780 without my stuff on.

00:31:44.720 Oh, my gosh.

00:31:45.120 Truly, I do.

00:31:46.100 I feel like people would be like,

00:31:47.600 my God, she has no pigment.

00:31:51.200 TMZ, Megyn Kelly lacks all pigment. 0.98

00:31:54.720 It's coming.

00:31:55.680 It's coming.

00:31:56.120 It's funny because I saw my primary care physician last week,

00:31:58.740 and we had a very interesting conversation about looks.

00:32:00.780 Oh.

00:32:01.320 Yeah.

00:32:02.060 He goes-

00:32:02.900 Looks maxing.

00:32:03.480 Yeah.

00:32:04.360 That's how it got started because I asked him if he had listened to that

00:32:07.540 conversation on The Daily about clavicular, this guy who coined that phrase,

00:32:13.640 looks maxing.

00:32:14.360 Yeah.

00:32:14.660 And I was laughing because it was all about how like guys are now taking

00:32:19.040 supplements and they're having surgeries or they're doing Botox or the GLP-1.

00:32:23.340 And I was like, that's called being a normal woman.

00:32:26.780 How is this a thing now?

00:32:28.540 Like they didn't invent this.

00:32:30.340 This is like every woman I know has had many needles in her face from, you know, regular 1.00

00:32:33.920 Botox or filler or whatever it is.

00:32:35.480 We're all on meth constantly.

00:32:36.940 Lasers, meth.

00:32:38.180 Well, that's what he's on.

00:32:39.540 Yeah, he's microdosing.

00:32:40.640 But anyway, I was kind of laughing that it got this, the New York Times treatment when

00:32:44.360 it's a man, but it's when it's a woman, it's just kind of like a day ending and why.

00:32:48.460 And he was like, well, aren't you looking forward to 10 years from now?

00:32:52.040 And I said, why?

00:32:52.720 He said, because your looks will no longer be the primary thing people notice about you.

00:32:58.400 Before he even got it out, I was like, no, no, no, I'm not.

00:33:04.380 Why would he say that?

00:33:06.060 Nor do I accept that that's what's happening in 10 years.

00:33:09.440 I plan to go down swinging.

00:33:11.420 There's so many older women I know who are stunning.

00:33:14.320 And I think it's really just a personal choice whether you want to like, but he was like,

00:33:18.000 it will be liberating for you when the first thing anybody notices about you is what you have

00:33:23.620 to say. I was like, well, I think people listen to it. You know, whatever. It's a combo. But he

00:33:28.640 was raising a good point, which is I definitely think about looks when I walk into a room. Not

00:33:33.360 every woman does. And that's probably extremely liberating to just be like, here I am. I don't

00:33:37.560 give a shit what you think of my looks. Yeah. But it's one of those things where you can't do it 0.99

00:33:42.020 when you're like, A, of course, broadcasting, but B, source meetings, like you have to have a

00:33:48.140 certain level of professionalism. And I do see younger people who grew up during COVID and they

00:33:52.660 want to go do journalism and they just don't have that same, like, you don't have a choice if you're

00:33:58.820 like, I'm not that old, but like 10 plus years ago, you didn't have a choice. You had to like

00:34:03.260 learn how to conduct yourself professionally. And I do think that might be getting lost with

00:34:07.400 like COVID era kids. I have this, this bias. I mean, when somebody walks in for an interview or

00:34:12.320 what, and they are like pulled together, they don't have to look as fancy as you do, but like

00:34:16.780 just pulled together. I am more favorably inclined toward them than if somebody came in with no

00:34:22.780 makeup, hair undone, and like an outfit that I thought was on the slovenly side, I would hold

00:34:28.960 it against them. I just feel like togetherness as a person, like as somebody who's going to work for

00:34:33.780 my company projects something like a meticulousness and attention to detail, a caring, you know,

00:34:41.000 I do find that like a lot of people who make zero effort are depressed and that it can be a tell

00:34:46.620 that like they couldn't find the energy. Isn't there social science about how people will just

00:34:51.680 innately unintentionally, they assign like lower degrees of trust to the obese and I'm pretty sure

00:34:59.040 there's social science on that. And the reason I say that is I think it conveys, I mean, the

00:35:03.760 theory is that it conveys a lack of discipline and so you just don't or self-control and i think

00:35:08.200 there is something about even if you're somebody who's like i don't really care that much about

00:35:12.900 clothes and whatever but you should convey that you care enough about the meeting or the broadcast

00:35:18.160 or whatever it is to dress like you care yeah and so there's something to that people might be

00:35:22.500 surprised but i actually have a bias i i do not want to gain weight and i go to this primary care

00:35:27.240 physician which i've told the audience before he's a fattest like he won't let you gain two pounds

00:35:30.720 without guilting you.

00:35:31.780 He's like, you know how many two pounds is over 10 years?

00:35:33.560 Good luck getting that off.

00:35:35.120 So, but I like that

00:35:35.940 because I don't want to gain weight.

00:35:37.600 But personally, I have a soft spot

00:35:40.840 when I see somebody who's obese

00:35:42.360 or who comes into my life as obese

00:35:43.360 because my mom has always been overweight. 1.00

00:35:44.740 She loves when I tell this story.

00:35:46.300 She must, she must.

00:35:47.580 Yeah, my mom's been overweight my whole life. 1.00

00:35:49.280 When I was a kid growing up in Syracuse,

00:35:50.580 she was like really overweight. 0.58

00:35:52.640 Now she's slimmer,

00:35:53.400 but I associate that with like warmth and love

00:35:58.060 and like funny and I don't know.

00:36:00.580 my mom is so great that that's what I associate that. So I almost have a bias in favor of people

00:36:05.160 who are pleasantly plump. She will not like any of these words. She's going to hate this and now

00:36:09.460 I'm going to get blamed. But no, but now it doesn't take a lack of discipline to be overweight

00:36:14.840 because of the food that we eat and the lives that we live. So it doesn't project that necessarily

00:36:19.260 anymore. It's just like an innate, I think, human reaction for whatever reason. So now what kind of

00:36:23.900 reaction have you gotten to like, has the significant, are we out with a significant

00:36:28.200 another do people know who it is philip yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah phil phil phil

00:36:32.800 wegman of rcp well first day at the wall street journal today oh no way oh congrats phil i probably

00:36:39.720 shouldn't have said that but oh that's awesome yes uh well he's he's the best he is a cutie

00:36:44.420 patootie and it's no surprise these two are together but it actually was a surprise to me

00:36:48.720 because i didn't know that so did he see any of the year before this was like before i knew you

00:36:54.260 Just as we launched the show, he asked to do an interview, and I was like, I don't know anything about Phil.

00:37:00.080 And Steve Krakauer is like, he's great.

00:37:01.700 You're going to love him.

00:37:02.680 He's trusted Steve.

00:37:03.480 You know, yeah, I know.

00:37:04.620 But I'm so suspicious of any reporter I don't know.

00:37:07.980 And he was awesome, and the piece wound up completely fair and great.

00:37:11.880 So anyway, I love that you two are together.

00:37:13.280 So has he seen Made Over Emily?

00:37:14.800 He loves the extensions.

00:37:16.460 He loves the extensions.

00:37:18.080 Typical man.

00:37:18.380 And he always, yeah, he loves whenever I dress feminine.

00:37:22.660 And so, yes, he's very.

00:37:25.880 We're a big fan of his.

00:37:26.920 All right.

00:37:27.140 So the reason we did this is I don't know why we did this exactly.

00:37:30.160 I just thought it would be fun.

00:37:31.740 I just thought it'd be fun, like a sort of a lighter side of the show.

00:37:34.560 And in my mind, what we're going to do is we did you.

00:37:39.040 Maybe we'll do one other person associated with our show.

00:37:41.480 Maybe not.

00:37:42.440 But I want to take this to the audience.

00:37:44.320 Like I really would love to have like audience submissions on.

00:37:48.340 Is there someone in your life who you think deserves this, deserves an MK show?

00:37:52.540 makeover, um, or a zhuzhing. I will do men. I will do men. Mark could use our help.

00:38:01.620 You're on notice, Mark. Mark needs the Sarah Clemente. I will make you hot treatment.

00:38:06.460 Oh, extensions. No, but Mark's a good looking guy. He just, you know, like if, if he spent some

00:38:13.580 time in Molly's care with the wardrobe, I think we could take it next level. I'd love to see what

00:38:18.100 they would do with Link. I think Link wouldn't let anybody touch him. He's like, girls, I've 0.99

00:38:21.700 nailed it. You can improve on. Anyway, uh, give us some thought, uh, ladies and gentlemen listening

00:38:27.620 now. And if you have somebody who you want to nominate for this treatment, a little MK show 0.68

00:38:32.580 makeover with some wardrobe and some hair and makeup, um, email me it's Megan M E G Y N at 1.00

00:38:38.840 Megan Kelly.com. We are taking your submission. So, so fun. Thank you for being our stunning

00:38:44.780 Guinea pig. I know that it was painful, but your team is so much fun and you're so much fun that

00:38:49.220 They made it a blast.

00:38:50.820 I love Sarah, Molly, and everyone else.

00:38:52.740 Aren't they great?

00:38:53.440 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:53.920 They're so great.

00:38:54.420 Just do what they tell you.

00:38:55.400 And they will take input and then overrule you.

00:38:57.920 But they'll make you feel like you're a part of the process.

00:39:01.420 Sarah's my new best friend.

00:39:02.600 She's been saying the same.

00:39:03.900 I love that.

00:39:06.900 Okay, let's keep going because there actually is other news to discuss today.

00:39:11.080 12.37, we finally get to it.

00:39:12.640 We know about Thatcher.

00:39:13.740 We know about Molly and Sarah and your makeover and my visit to my doctor.

00:39:19.220 let's, let's get down to the news. So before we get to the rescue, what happened this weekend,

00:39:24.500 because it really was a stunning thing. The, the president's messaging on Iran has been

00:39:30.020 particularly erratic over the past week. And I don't know whether this is all strategy. You know,

00:39:36.340 Trump likes to keep the enemy guessing whether the enemy is the actual enemy, like we're seeing

00:39:40.500 with Iran in a war or just people he's negotiating against like China in a tariff battle. So he often

00:39:48.180 has erratic messaging that to us looks kind of crazy, but to him is just a tactic that we will

00:39:57.540 later understand or we won't, but he thinks we'll give him a leg up. So I don't know what's happening

00:40:01.920 here, but there's no question in my mind. He didn't say open the fucking straight F-U-C-K-I-N 0.99

00:40:08.040 apostrophe. You crazy bastards. Yeah. Crazy bastards. Just like full Roy Cohn. Yeah. There's 1.00

00:40:15.700 no reason there's no question he did that not because he's gone insane as his worst critics

00:40:19.940 have said but for a reason my my first thought is he wants attention to this and there's no better

00:40:27.960 way to get attention than to take it next level and let's look at the messaging around open the

00:40:33.780 fucking straight i mean that that in of itself got it i'll remember that one he wants it open 0.77

00:40:39.520 not closed. And around it is Tuesday will be power plant day, bridge day, all wrapped in one 0.97

00:40:46.240 in Iran. There'll be nothing like it. Triple exclamation. Open the fucking straight, 1.00

00:40:50.500 you crazy bastards. All I can think of is that scene in Home Alone, like you filthy animals, 1.00

00:40:55.100 you know, um, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch that has all caps. What is it? The just 0.99

00:41:03.220 watch get all caps. Praise be to Allah the other day. Okay. I don't know why Allah's here the day 1.00

00:41:08.840 before he ended it with glory be to god so maybe he's being an equal opportunity oh you know maybe

00:41:16.320 it's a first amendment situation where he's not trying to promote one religion i'm sure he's

00:41:19.820 really conscious of that you do speak fluent trump you were talking about this on friday show i think

00:41:23.640 you just cracked the code it did stick out to me that he's being an equal opportunity religious

00:41:29.940 promoter so uh and then he says uh um to he gave two interviews over the phone one to uh abc and

00:41:41.940 then there was a second one sorry that's in my am update where he's making clear they need to open

00:41:46.800 the straight i mean it's all about like open the straight or else so what do you make of it all

00:41:50.700 i mean your point is i think the important one that he literally wrote about this negotiation

00:41:56.300 style and art of the deal. And we saw it over and over again exactly a year ago with the tariffs.

00:42:01.000 And this reminds me so much of the post-Liberation Day tariff negotiation that was going on via X,

00:42:07.380 where he was making these massive deals, or at least he thought he was, via increasingly,

00:42:13.260 I don't know that I would say erratic with the tariffs, but maybe increasingly bombastic

00:42:17.220 posts on X. And you can never disentangle what is serious from what is negotiation.

00:42:23.800 And that, I think, is his point. I think that's what he wants to do. He wants you to not, like you said, he wants to keep people guessing. But he also doesn't totally want to telegraph how serious or non-serious he is about anything. And so you end up having to take absolutely everything seriously, including posts like this, which are threats of essentially war crimes.

00:42:43.180 and that leaves the public in a really odd place because you and I both know the media has covered

00:42:50.400 Trump so poorly for so long and every single tweet was taken like the end of the world and

00:42:55.520 I think this term he's really leaned into doing these global deals via true social acts or

00:43:03.520 whatever and I think he's realized that you can you can confuse people keep people guessing

00:43:08.760 by posts and it just makes it very difficult to pick up what his where his head actually is

00:43:15.140 that's the point i think that's intentionally why he's doing it but then again you're also

00:43:20.000 threatening civilian infrastructure and the like so it's hard right because we are supposed to be

00:43:25.080 you know eventually helping the iranian people at least that's exactly one of the goals that

00:43:30.420 was originally stated though it's waffled bombing all of their civilian infrastructure will not help

00:43:35.300 the Iranian people, and it actually could cost a lot of Iranian civilian lives. So we have to be

00:43:38.960 like super careful about that. The rules, as I understand it, under the Geneva Convention

00:43:43.260 say, if they're using these things to support the military, then possibly fair game. 0.68

00:43:49.860 The brutes last week.

00:43:50.700 Yeah. But if they're purely a civilian, like the desalination plants should not be touched.

00:43:57.420 He had mentioned that in one truth, which notably did not make the most recent truth,

00:44:01.920 which I'm sure somebody got to him to say, that's a hard no on those.

00:44:06.260 Though one was struck last week, and then there was a finger pointing about who had done it.

00:44:11.000 It wasn't us. It was like Iran said Israel did it, and Israel said Iran did it. I'm trying to 0.98

00:44:14.840 remember exactly where it happened. And our government was saying that it was being used

00:44:17.740 for war purposes, so that it could be used for weapons, transportation, and that type of thing.

00:44:24.200 I mean, I will say I'm having difficulty believing everything that our government is

00:44:29.260 putting out, which is strange for me. Like I normally would believe our government and it's

00:44:33.540 not about Trump. It's about having been lied to for so many years in Iraq and Afghanistan and

00:44:38.280 having accepted their lies unquestioningly and peddled them, you know, unwittingly. And I just

00:44:43.660 refuse to be the conduit to that, to that again. Like, it's very easy to, it's very interesting to

00:44:48.280 me, Emily, that virtually all of the loudest pushback on this war has come from people who

00:44:54.860 in the independent news space, right?

00:44:57.560 Like I would say the independent lane

00:45:00.000 has been most forceful and probably most effective

00:45:03.380 in turning around public opinion on this

00:45:06.760 because no one owns us, no one controls us.

00:45:10.680 So it's like one thing if MSNBC is like, 1.00

00:45:13.080 it sucks and Trump sucks. 0.99

00:45:14.800 Of course, they all know what they're doing on Team Blue. 1.00

00:45:17.720 Even though a lot of those Democrats are beholden to AIPAC

00:45:20.960 and are not saying that in any way

00:45:23.040 because like they actually want to make a point

00:45:25.440 about Israel's control.

00:45:26.820 You know, they're just saying it because they hate Trump.

00:45:29.880 But there's a lot happening in the independent lane right now.

00:45:33.280 These podcasters who we were told have absolutely no power,

00:45:36.040 who I think are turning sentiment with some people

00:45:38.980 because we're all able to report very openly and honestly

00:45:42.360 on the folly of what we're doing here

00:45:44.600 and the reversal and the betrayal

00:45:46.380 that this was to Trump's campaign promises.

00:45:49.400 And look, the president, I told him this directly

00:45:50.960 that I don't support this war,

00:45:52.800 but I do support him. And there, there's a difference, you know, you can, you can still

00:45:57.180 support Trump and his agenda without, you don't have to go full TDS in order to say, I object to

00:46:02.720 this war and I don't think this is a good idea. Um, and I don't know, have you noticed this at

00:46:07.320 all? Like in the coverage, because you know, we're, if you turn on Fox news, you only have

00:46:11.760 one message and there is a reason for that. I was going to say case in point would be looking at

00:46:16.300 CNN where, uh, actually this is interesting, very anti-Trump network, but not a lot of pitched

00:46:21.740 criticism of the war itself at all. Like, have there been many viral CNN clips of like Trump-Iran

00:46:28.300 takedowns? Not particularly. And I think that's because there's a lot of baked in support for what

00:46:33.260 you're hearing at the Pentagon or from, I mean, a lot of the leaks right now are very obviously

00:46:37.280 coming from the intelligence community. Like Natasha Bertrand had a big scoop last week that

00:46:41.440 everyone is like, fuck off. The discredited reporter who had all the scoops on Russiagate 0.99

00:46:46.700 that turned out to be completely false. Yes. And interestingly, that scoop she had last week with

00:46:51.240 who was like chief of staff to the ambassador to China during the Obama administration. So clearly

00:46:55.820 this was coming from somewhere in the, I would say like military intelligence world. That was

00:47:01.000 about how actually Iranian, Iran still had like 50% of its missile launchers and that type of

00:47:07.980 capacity. So you're trying to like piece together why that story came out when, but this is why,

00:47:12.400 I mean, there are decades of pieces of evidence that people brag about afterwards in our own

00:47:18.600 government when it comes to propaganda that they were feeding to the press over and over again

00:47:22.800 throughout the Cold War. It is not like some giant conspiracy. You can look at the memos yourself.

00:47:26.920 And so it's part of any government's playbook. And now people are just wise to that because the

00:47:32.720 internet democratizes everything. Even if it's a government you support, they're going to lie to

00:47:36.300 you, especially as a member of the press. But you have this contrast of having seen it from

00:47:40.940 the inside and now being on the outside. And that has to be a really interesting experience.

00:47:46.040 Mm-hmm. It's disappointing because I don't, I can't, like, I don't want this to sound like

00:47:53.000 too weird, but like, I really care about this administration. I care about the players. You

00:47:58.300 know, I did back them personally and I still back them. And I really, really, really desperately

00:48:03.040 want Trump to just get back to the agenda that he actually did run on, you know, both for the

00:48:07.660 nation's sake and for his sake and his party's sake and for 2028's sake. I've kind of given up

00:48:15.160 on 2026, to be perfectly honest with you, but like 2028 could still be salvaged and could

00:48:20.980 definitely be hurt. Right. And so I just, I, people don't support this war. The support for

00:48:26.780 the war is down in the thirties. So it's like the, the president can make himself feel better by

00:48:30.800 saying, well, MAGA is totally behind me. Well, MAGA is 15% of the population. That's not enough

00:48:35.560 to win elections. You need not only MAGA, you need the majority of Republicans who are not all MAGA.

00:48:41.100 And in fact, more and more are saying they're not MAGA.

00:48:43.880 The people who say that the portion that says it's MAGA is dwindling at the moment.

00:48:48.780 And you need outside of Republicans, you need independents.

00:48:51.820 And if you can get some crossover Democrats like he did in 24, so much the better.

00:48:57.080 So let's, whatever we thought or he thought about this war,

00:49:00.420 whatever sweet nothings Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham whispered to him.

00:49:04.080 Did you see his Levin tweet last night?

00:49:05.680 Yet another one.

00:49:06.620 The Supreme Court should be watching Mark Levin though.

00:49:08.540 That is how they should spend their time.

00:49:11.540 Oh, my God.

00:49:13.360 Like, he loves Mark Levin.

00:49:14.680 We have to admit it.

00:49:15.460 He's obsessed with Mark Levin.

00:49:16.920 Who among us?

00:49:18.140 I mean, he doesn't want to get to know him intimately because I'm telling you, there's a secret he's hiding there.

00:49:25.040 Well, apparently not a secret anymore.

00:49:27.480 I, of course, I can't attest to it, you know, individually.

00:49:31.260 I don't know what you're talking about, Matt.

00:49:32.400 But I'm just saying, you take one look at him, and anybody who's got that much to prove, he's got a problem.

00:49:37.740 You know, see, this is the curious what's dangerous, actually, now that I'm thinking of it. The proportion of MAGA voters shrinking. Harry Enten had that stunning CNN poll that people were actually like surprised by when it showed like 100 percent of MAGA two weeks into the war was in support of Donald Trump. Those are like the Mark Levin types.

00:49:54.400 And you wonder if you just start listening to this group that's getting smaller and smaller, and it's the Fifth Avenue voters, which is the term that I use, term of endearment that I use for those folks who Trump could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still support him because they trust him.

00:50:09.360 Everyone else was lying to them, and he correctly told them that.

00:50:12.760 So they trust him.

00:50:13.960 There's something like rational about it, even if I disagree with it.

00:50:17.860 They're not going to criticize you and you're only listening to them and they're getting more and more isolated in a bubble.

00:50:23.780 that is frightening in a wartime scenario. And the MAGA coalition was not just, you explained

00:50:30.500 this really well when you said you were MAGA adjacent. That is how so many people, high profile

00:50:35.380 critics of the war were, but they were being called MAGA because the media didn't understand

00:50:39.180 what it actually was. That's exactly right. And now the right is not understanding what it actually

00:50:42.740 was because they're looking around, you were MAGA. Yeah. Why aren't you with us? No, there's a

00:50:47.180 litmus test. I mean, the president still thinks he can punish certain of us by saying you're not

00:50:50.900 MAGA. Like it's not a punishment. My audience knows I'm not MAGA. I never was. Um, except for

00:50:55.960 on Halloween. Yes. On Halloween. That's true. But I care about the president and I support him and

00:51:00.900 I love to get off the Iran war if possible. We'll be right back. I'm not done. You're busy. I know, 0.84

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00:52:39.780 after party emily.com i love it it always makes you sound a little r-rated sign up now 1-900

00:52:46.440 i mean that's a little old for me megan after it's true do 900 numbers still exist uh i think

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00:53:15.600 every day we get a new one i i just try not to think about it it haunts me did you happen to

00:53:22.340 see tim dylan all right we've got to show this to the audience we love tim dylan here he's brilliant

00:53:27.220 he's like the best comedians he's brilliant he is and and he it's not that he masks it it's just

00:53:33.500 that his persona is like funny and slapstick and like irreverent as hell but he is brilliant just

00:53:40.760 listen to his words and his takes like his his ins and outs on various stories and this this is

00:53:46.560 a combo clip but he took on the issue of christy noem and brian noem while wearing for the listening

00:53:54.000 audience similar prosthetic boobs and a shirt to what brian noem famously infamously was wearing

00:54:00.620 in those daily mail photos last week watch the family was blindsided by this

00:54:05.640 miss gnome is devastated the family was blindsided by this and they asked for privacy and prayers at

00:54:11.960 this time what am i supposed to i'm supposed to pray for this guy in his tents so wait a minute

00:54:18.340 all the horror that's happening in the world people are literally being vaporized by machines

00:54:23.440 of death flying you know in the air we were bombing school girls while they sit in class 1.00

00:54:32.580 and i'm supposed to pray for christy noem's husband and his h cup tits that's where the 1.00

00:54:40.960 direction my prayers are supposed to go in when the people in gaza are wandering around trying to

00:54:46.980 find grain so they can bake a loaf of bread i'm supposed to pay pray for christy gnome's husband 1.00

00:54:53.940 and his big tits well no i will not pray for your husband and his big tits how about that 1.00

00:55:02.420 you can pray for his big tits do you think she threw the tits out was she like give me those 1.00

00:55:09.560 chance oh my i hope brian gnome wasn't watching that because it might have worked yeah he probably 1.00

00:55:17.780 probably loved them it's gotta be bigger than h oh no yes i agree yes bigger than h actually i

00:55:25.440 know somebody a dear friend of mine who was in that neighborhood and um they are definitely

00:55:30.280 bigger than h seems like it yeah way bigger than h they're closer to the end of the alphabet

00:55:34.440 Yeah. Oh, Tim did a great job. Yeah, he did. I mean, I see his point is like and by the way, you know, we talked about this with Maureen on Friday, but the vast majority of people, I think, believe that Kristi Noem knew about this long before the she's devastated statement to the media when it broke last week.

00:55:53.380 And she's just now, you know, it's just now coming out. Some believe she leaked it in order to generate sympathy for her because she's been having this alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski, which she denies. But everybody has seen them together. I mean, multiple times. So I don't whatever. I'm over those two and their weird marriage. I don't understand what they're doing, nor do I care. Let's get back to what the president is saying.

00:56:15.600 He is speaking out about specifically the Iran war, and he is basically setting this deadline of tomorrow night.

00:56:22.720 And by the way, he's going to be speaking momentarily, and we're going to be monitoring it for news, and we'll bring it to you.

00:56:27.480 But, okay, here's what he said to, is it Fox News' Trey Yinks tier in Saat 2B?

00:56:34.600 Let's watch it.

00:56:35.260 This is not Trey Yinks.

00:56:36.560 This is today.

00:56:37.640 Let's listen.

00:56:38.700 Deadline is Tuesday at 8 p.m., your final deadline.

00:56:40.760 Iran does not meet your demands, Mr. President.

00:56:44.380 Are you willing to continue the war? 0.78

00:56:46.480 You'll have to watch.

00:56:47.560 Mr. President, are you committed to committing a war time?

00:56:50.620 It's an easy question.

00:56:51.180 The answer is yes, but you'll have to watch.

00:56:52.520 Mr. President, Mr. President, what do you think of the latest proposal?

00:56:56.820 They've made a proposal, and it's a significant proposal.

00:57:00.220 It's a significant step.

00:57:01.580 It's not good enough, but it's a very significant step.

00:57:07.560 They have made, they're negotiating now,

00:57:09.940 and they've made a very significant step.

00:57:11.940 We'll see what happens.

00:57:13.840 There's a band in the background

00:57:15.560 because it's the Easter egg roll at the White House.

00:57:18.060 And by the way, this just hit too

00:57:19.720 during the break of Trump

00:57:21.920 speaking to the very thing that

00:57:23.420 we were speaking to, which is why did he

00:57:25.880 use the language he used? Look at this.

00:57:28.920 Why did you use such

00:57:29.800 vulgar language in that true social code?

00:57:32.000 Only to make my point.

00:57:33.520 I think you've heard it before.

00:57:35.120 Mr. President, why did you say

00:57:37.280 praise be to a law?

00:57:38.240 i'm gonna be doing it right now to make a point you called it you do speak fluent trump

00:57:46.600 he got us that talking about he got everybody talking about that post well and your point

00:57:52.860 also was that he wanted to call attention not just to the post that he was angry or whatever 0.99

00:57:57.600 specifically to the straight yep open the fucking straight yep yeah filthy animals 0.99

00:58:04.500 it worked it worked he did it so well done i guess he did not answer on the allah thing he 0.98

00:58:10.440 chose to answer the other guys don't know have you spoken to the families um again we're going

00:58:14.000 to get more details on that right now so he he's he's frustrated because it sounds like i mean at

00:58:19.660 every turn the iranians say no he want the president reportedly proposed a ceasefire uh for

00:58:26.660 some was it 45 days and iran already said no they're not interested in it because they're

00:58:33.620 enjoying watching him suffer politically. They want that. They don't want to relieve that pressure.

00:58:38.800 And they also said that they think it would give us time to regroup. I'm not sure we need to

00:58:42.640 regroup. It's really, we can do what we want to do. It's just a question of whether we have the

00:58:46.220 political support for it and willpower to do it. President Trump is now saying, we don't need

00:58:52.060 ground troops. He says, we don't need ground troops. But like Mark Thiessen, in listening to

00:58:58.800 his tweets and so on or posts came out and said, we're going to take the strait.

00:59:04.000 There's no way of doing that without ground troops. So really, he's doing a good job of

00:59:08.020 keeping everybody guessing. We don't know. And so if the Iranians don't come to a deal by tomorrow 0.84

00:59:13.340 night, do we believe, Trump, that there will be a major escalation on our part?

00:59:18.640 Well, I mean, it seems impossible. Like with the Strait of Hormuz right now, it seems impossible

00:59:23.780 that you could have any deal ceasefire anything with Iran still in control of the Strait of Hormuz

00:59:29.280 and Trump be able to claim a W. It just it's not even by Trumpian public relations standards.

00:59:34.560 It's not possible. It's not feasible economically. None of it makes sense. Maybe that's what they

00:59:38.860 meant by regrouping, because right now gas prices are already getting very hard for Americans to

00:59:43.360 stomach. It's upsetting allies. It's up to 419, I think, a gallon, the average.

00:59:47.840 And do you see it?

00:59:48.720 My gas station was $5.20 yesterday.

00:59:51.180 That's a lot.

00:59:51.340 It was insane.

00:59:52.860 But that's, I mean, all over the country.

00:59:54.660 California.

00:59:54.880 Full serve?

00:59:55.780 It's terrible.

00:59:56.340 Yeah, yes.

00:59:57.000 Yeah, we've got to factor that in.

00:59:58.980 It's about 10 cents more a gallon if you go full serve.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, that's probably true.

01:00:02.080 Either way, over $5.

01:00:03.920 I always go full serve.

01:00:06.060 It's just crazy.

01:00:08.100 And so anyway, the administration, like with the taco thing last year, everyone always

01:00:12.900 said Trump always chickens out.

01:00:14.340 That was the joke.

01:00:15.100 And sometimes, yes, what did he say?

01:00:17.420 he looked at the markets and they were getting a little wobbly or something like that.

01:00:21.240 But it's not, and this isn't a defense of it, but it's not necessarily chickening out.

01:00:25.140 It's a question of him trying to figure out how far he can push, how far he can push the public,

01:00:30.520 how far he can push other people while still working towards some W, some way to say this

01:00:37.240 was a success. I agree. And it's the funny thing with Trump is like, I don't think it's a question

01:00:40.920 of chickening out. He has plenty of guts. That's not an issue. He took the tariffs to the Supreme

01:00:46.100 court. He stood up and started speaking to the crowd when he just got shot in the head. Like

01:00:51.740 he's not a chicken. He's actually quite brave. It's just his negotiating tactics appear erratic

01:00:58.720 to those of us who don't behave this way. I can't remember where I heard this discussed,

01:01:02.280 but it was a good point. They were saying that with most, it might've been the guys at RCP,

01:01:06.660 that with most presidents, everything is a buildup to, if this fails, you get troops,

01:01:12.720 you get invaded. And with Trump, it's almost like you're invaded. Now we can talk. Right.

01:01:18.100 Right. Like he kind of goes that way first with some shock and awe military moment and then says,

01:01:24.280 all right, now that I've got your attention, let's chat. Which is how you do business deals.

01:01:29.760 Like that's, it's actually the negotiation strategy again that he wrote about. It's how

01:01:33.940 you do business deals on a high level. If you're Donald Trump, uh, maybe not how everyone does

01:01:38.360 business deals, but it's how Donald Trump is. Pretty sure Jamie Dimon doesn't go that way,

01:01:41.540 but yeah. No, but not. But I mean, real estate world, sleazy, high-level real estate world,

01:01:46.740 not surprising. Brass knuckle. Yeah, exactly. But when you're doing it on the world stage

01:01:50.900 with Greenland being a very good example, directionally not insane. Everything that

01:01:55.940 he was saying about Greenland, directionally not insane. Oh, he persuaded me by the end.

01:01:59.660 It's not a crazy case at all, but it already, because of the process, and this is the question,

01:02:05.020 Like, are the means justifying the ends? And the means of that process alienated, like, populist conservatives in Europe. And so the question is, were the means of alienating all of those potential allies worth the ends? And, I mean, with Greenland, what is he going to do for the rest of his term? I don't know. But right now it looks like, no, that was not worth the ends of what we got out of it.

01:02:29.300 I think Europe's been complaining a lot lately because they're mad about this war.

01:02:34.440 I feel like I have a tough time feeling sorry for Europe.

01:02:39.400 You know, they've been taking advantage of us for a long, long time.

01:02:41.940 It's fine.

01:02:42.260 We wanted it that way.

01:02:43.180 You can't really say it's taking advantage when we set it up that way.

01:02:45.560 Like, we're going to be your military protector.

01:02:47.340 We're your big brother.

01:02:48.940 You know, but while that's been happening, their values have changed, like, fundamentally from what they used to be.

01:02:55.820 And we've really had a serious question put out there into the world order about whether we should be their big brother.

01:03:03.960 You know, like if we're just going to continue being more and more provocative in Europe and elsewhere when it comes to Russia, when it comes to like getting closer and closer, everybody's part of NATO now.

01:03:14.820 The one thing they know Putin doesn't want, I'm not defending Putin, I'm just saying that saber rattling like that endangers everybody and is unnecessary.

01:03:24.200 It's not all Europe.

01:03:25.100 We did that too.

01:03:26.340 And in the meantime, the crackdowns on free speech,

01:03:29.200 the refusal to crack down on rape gangs in the UK

01:03:32.680 because of skin color. 1.00

01:03:34.520 I guess you can rape with impunity if you happen to be black 1.00

01:03:37.360 as long as you target a white girl. 1.00

01:03:39.680 Can we go after them if they target brown girls? 0.95

01:03:41.980 I'm not sure what it's going to take. 0.98

01:03:44.280 My point is simply they are a shadow of their former selves.

01:03:47.840 I don't think a lot of us are feeling like teary-eyed about,

01:03:50.220 you know what, stop us.

01:03:51.820 Stop with your indignant over the president's behavior.

01:03:58.520 He's finally treating you the way you've been treating us and your own people for a long, long time.

01:04:03.960 You just do it behind closed doors in a way that feels to you more civilized.

01:04:07.520 But he does it out in the open.

01:04:09.560 I mean, and it works.

01:04:10.640 Like, he got NATO defense spending up through different countries.

01:04:13.360 At least he got a promise of it.

01:04:15.020 Right, yeah, from his threats.

01:04:16.280 And on the other hand, he now wants NATO to go in and start opening the strait. If they they are more reliant on that oil and gas, he wants them to go in and do it themselves. And just the question is not because I agree with you. I mean, if you accept Big Brother's protection and then you don't want to take the demands, it's not you're not upholding your end of the bargain. So obviously the bargain is not the bargain is broken.

01:04:40.680 Yeah. I really think they need their own military, like the post-World War II order. It's outdated. We don't need it. We don't have to be the policemen of the world. Why are we, like, why do we have all these troops in Germany and South Korea still? Like, is that really necessary?

01:04:55.980 50,000 troops in the Middle East, is that necessary?

01:04:58.760 Like, unfortunately, the Middle East 0.97

01:05:00.280 actually have been good allies to us

01:05:02.000 and they too have a bunch of values

01:05:04.720 that we don't necessarily share,

01:05:06.240 but we've been making headway over there.

01:05:07.720 It was better than the 9-11 days

01:05:09.300 and now we've gotten them bombed

01:05:11.540 because Iran is striking out at them,

01:05:13.440 which is a terrible move, but makes sense strategically

01:05:15.680 because it's upsetting, it's raising the stakes on us,

01:05:18.540 it's raising the pressure points on us.

01:05:19.920 All of our Middle East allies are looking at Trump

01:05:21.620 like, let's wrap it up,

01:05:22.760 even though they like seeing some of it, 0.63

01:05:24.720 They like seeing Iran get bombed because they're not big fans of the Shiites. 0.99

01:05:28.240 But well, and then Trump, what if he ends the war and quote unquote ends the war and

01:05:33.120 they've got gotten bombed to hell?

01:05:35.580 Many places in the Gulf have.

01:05:37.640 And the Strait of Hormuz is still being controlled by Iran.

01:05:40.300 Yeah, I know.

01:05:41.440 He says, if we leave, it's just going to open up.

01:05:43.460 I says, OK, fine.

01:05:44.180 If that's true, great.

01:05:45.040 Then let's let it be somebody else's problem.

01:05:46.820 But clearly he was told that's not going to be the case because his messaging changed

01:05:50.320 almost immediately after that message on Wednesday night.

01:05:53.300 Right.

01:05:53.500 And even if you're a defender of the American empire and you want the U.S. to have, you will openly defend, which is the most honest way to do it, U.S. imperialism.

01:06:01.700 Even if you want that, all of this has practical implications for our relationships with our allies.

01:06:06.320 And that's the point that I was just trying to make.

01:06:08.000 Like, that matters.

01:06:09.180 At the end of the day, you can't just, you know, say, we're going to get to a better place.

01:06:13.760 Follow along with me.

01:06:14.560 Trust me.

01:06:15.020 It's like, well, these countries are getting bombed.

01:06:16.660 We're not getting bombed.

01:06:17.480 Yeah, I know.

01:06:18.420 Their markets are—like, Japan, so reliant on this type—like, this is bad for them.

01:06:24.160 All the warnings coming out of Europe are dire on the energy crisis heading their way.

01:06:28.000 Like, dire.

01:06:28.960 Yep.

01:06:29.540 Like, they'll feel it, and then we'll feel it.

01:06:31.440 We're already feeling it a little, but we're going to feel it more.

01:06:33.420 A couple months lagged after Europe, and Trump knows that.

01:06:36.520 So he's got—I mean, he's got a lot to balance here.

01:06:38.400 He's trying to wrap this up.

01:06:39.420 And I have to say, the Iranians, they won't bend. 0.83

01:06:42.280 You know, they are some stubborn mofos over there, and they see that their best— 1.00

01:06:48.280 their Navy was never going to defeat our Navy.

01:06:50.960 Their Air Force was never going to defeat our Air Force.

01:06:54.100 It's this test of wills.

01:06:55.720 Like how much pain can they take

01:06:57.660 while they ratchet up the pain on Trump politically?

01:07:01.260 And they're good at that.

01:07:03.540 They're good at,

01:07:04.380 they don't really care that much

01:07:05.380 about the lives of their fighters.

01:07:07.140 So these IRGCs are like, yeah, go ahead.

01:07:10.320 You know, take them.

01:07:10.940 Well, if it costs you another point politically

01:07:14.140 while we drag this out even longer, great.

01:07:16.560 Yeah. So this is and what we've seen this in the Middle East. We knew this about them. Like we knew that the Taliban was like this and Al Qaeda was like this. The Iraqis were like this. Now the Iranians are like this. Like this is all foreseeable. I just the whole thing is very stressful. Let's keep going because there's a lot more to discuss and there's no there's no good answer. Let's spend a minute on what the on the rescue of the troops because that actually is very, very cool. Awesome.

01:07:40.500 So this effort to go in and get our soldier who abandoned his, you know, he ejected out of his plane that was going down.

01:07:49.780 He is a crew member.

01:07:52.620 That's how Trump described it.

01:07:54.260 We got him.

01:07:54.840 My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the U.S. military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue ops in U.S. history for one of our incredible crew member officers who also happens to be a highly respected colonel.

01:08:04.960 I'm thrilled to let you know he's now safe and sound.

01:08:07.400 He was never truly alone because his commander-in-chief, secretary of war, and chairman of the Joint Chiefs and fellow warfighters were monitoring his location 24-7.

01:08:15.980 And then he says that the military sent dozens of aircraft armed with the most lethal weapons in the world to retrieve him.

01:08:22.920 He sustained injuries but will be just fine.

01:08:26.880 And then the details are, just quickly, he ejected.

01:08:30.140 He hit in a mountain crevice in a location initially unknown to either Americans trying to rescue him or Iranians trying to capture him.

01:08:37.920 This is per The New York Times and Axios.

01:08:40.260 He's a weapons system officer.

01:08:42.340 He only had a pistol to defend himself.

01:08:45.140 He was equipped with a beacon and a secure communications device, but he restricted the use of his beacon because he was worried about the Iranians detecting it.

01:08:53.080 Per a senior U.S. official to The Times, the airmen evaded Iranian forces for more than 24 hours at one point hiking up a 7000 foot ridgeline.

01:09:01.460 He was shot down in a region of Iran where there is significant opposition to the Iranian government, reports The Times.

01:09:07.420 And he may have been able to rely on locals for shelter, though that's unclear.

01:09:11.140 We don't know. Per a senior administration official to The Times, the CIA initiated a deception campaign to try to confuse Iranian forces.

01:09:20.500 The agency ultimately found the airman's hiding place.

01:09:23.860 They don't tell us how, which is probably smart.

01:09:26.660 Passing the info on to the Pentagon, which mounted the rescue operation, said this official.

01:09:32.600 The mission involved hundreds of special forces troops and other military personnel,

01:09:36.800 dozens of U.S. warplanes, helicopters, and cyberspace and other intel capabilities.

01:09:42.180 It was a night mission that took commandos deep into enemy territory.

01:09:46.660 Navy SEAL Team 6 commandos extracted the officer.

01:09:50.120 Can you imagine this guy's face when SEAL Team 6 showed up to get him?

01:09:54.920 Such an awesome moment.

01:09:56.560 That's so great.

01:09:58.160 They don't leave anybody behind.

01:09:59.880 I mean, just ask Dakota Meyer. 0.93

01:10:01.200 That's how he got his Medal of Honor, just even the fallen, going back and risking his own life to get man after man after man.

01:10:08.280 Per a senior U.S. military official, commanders, as commandos converged on the downed airmen,

01:10:13.800 They fired their weapons to keep Iranian forces away from the rescue site, but did not engage in a firefight with the Iranians.

01:10:21.520 So I guess there was no return fire.

01:10:23.140 Then the transport planes that were going to carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran.

01:10:29.560 They decided to fly in three new planes to extract all of our guys and gals. 1.00

01:10:34.660 And then they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian hands. 0.94

01:10:39.960 one other detail per Axios, before or right after the soldier ejected, he said the phrase,

01:10:51.720 God is good. They say he is a religious person. Trump erroneously reported as power be to God,

01:10:59.400 close, close to good old Trump. He hit the eject button and then said, MAGA!

01:11:09.960 No, but it was God is good.

01:11:13.140 And as for the Israelis, Trump said they helped,

01:11:15.660 the IDF helped the U.S. military, quote, a little bit.

01:11:18.880 So in any event, he's safe, thank God, and out of there.

01:11:24.080 Like, that's one thing you can't begrudge anybody

01:11:27.000 who's been conducting this war

01:11:28.900 is just the absolute belief in the power of the U.S. military,

01:11:31.900 the precision, the extraordinary abilities

01:11:34.860 to go in there at night.

01:11:36.000 I mean, this is Iran.

01:11:36.900 This is Iran.

01:11:37.740 Yeah.

01:11:38.080 It's not Kuwait.

01:11:39.060 It's not friendly territory that could potentially still be targeted.

01:11:42.900 In the heart of Iran, they found this guy somehow.

01:11:46.100 Who knows whether he turned on that beacon or not.

01:11:48.040 Without losing anyone.

01:11:49.220 Not a one.

01:11:49.900 And apparently without a firefight.

01:11:51.520 That's remarkable.

01:11:52.800 And he was missing, as far as we know, for a long time.

01:11:55.620 This wasn't like a half an hour.

01:11:57.380 Yeah.

01:11:57.780 This was, what, probably more than 24 hours.

01:12:00.260 More than 24 hours because it happened overnight Thursday into Friday, right, I think?

01:12:05.500 I'm pretty sure.

01:12:05.940 So that means they have Iran has time to look for him. The propaganda win from the IRGC's perspective, if you can, I mean, that he was in such high demand to say the very, very least so that we could without having troops on the ground.

01:12:21.520 From what we know of the CIA's infiltration of Iran, it's mostly reliant on Mossad. So it's an interesting point about IDF, that there's Israeli intelligence in Iran, that it's often what we rely on for our own intelligence about Iran. So I wonder if that was the reference to the IDF. I don't know. They have their own intelligence forces.

01:12:40.020 I think they said, I read that it wasn't Intel. The little help that he said the IDF provided,

01:12:45.020 I read that he said it wasn't Intel.

01:12:46.780 So that's all the more impressive from the CIA. And to coordinate with the Pentagon like that,

01:12:51.640 I mean, you can't take it away from Midnight Hammer. You can't take it away from Venezuela. 1.00

01:12:55.400 You can't take it away from this, the precision, the expertise, the bravery. That's incredible

01:13:01.160 from these men and women who risk their own lives for one man. I mean, amazing. And for

01:13:07.340 the embarrassment that would be given to the country.

01:13:12.240 No, it would have been a huge propaganda win for the Iranians to get this guy. 0.99

01:13:15.540 They could have made him say anything.

01:13:17.020 It would have been a nightmare.

01:13:18.240 You know, the Iranians should be glad because one hair on that guy's head and it would have 1.00

01:13:23.420 changed the war sentiment over here.

01:13:24.900 Well, and also this is how conflicts escalate into I'm not sending ground troops.

01:13:30.480 I'm not sending ground troops.

01:13:31.640 And then, oh, we have to send ground troops and then more die and then more have to be

01:13:35.960 sent.

01:13:36.220 If any of us saw this guy being used as propaganda on some hostage tape, I think the war would immediately have 90% support. 0.62

01:13:44.520 Like, go get him. 1.00

01:13:45.540 We're not allowing that shit. 1.00

01:13:47.020 That's how it happens. 1.00

01:13:47.720 So thank God for many reasons.

01:13:49.440 Trump just said that the rescue mission for the second Air Force officer involved 155 aircraft.

01:13:56.800 Wow, 155 aircraft.

01:13:59.480 So we do have sky dominance.

01:14:01.600 unfortunately they're still able to have some impact over there which is how that that jet

01:14:06.360 went down two of them went down on friday that's a question because the president had said what did

01:14:11.000 he say total air dominance yeah a couple of days before so still clearly we do is in terms of like

01:14:17.760 their their air force but like i mean they still have some maybe the surface to air missiles we're

01:14:23.320 not sure what they're using but they got that f that that jet down with and then they also got

01:14:28.580 they hit the, I think it was the helicopters, at least one of them that were coming for the jet

01:14:33.400 to help the jet, but no one killed as far as we know, which is remarkable. So Godspeed to that

01:14:39.500 officer and his family. And you know, it's a minor miracle that he's okay. It really is. So

01:14:44.840 God bless all the troops. We're still rooting for them. We want it to end, want them to come

01:14:48.440 home to safety. Let's declare victory however we can and get out of there. Honestly, I don't care.

01:14:52.820 Yeah. Well, because the longer it goes on, the more opportunities for escalation come up. Exactly

01:14:57.640 like this one last week. Yes. It was heart stopping for everyone when they heard about this. But part

01:15:02.520 of the reason is because it can keep leading you down the road. Politically, not going well. But

01:15:09.680 at least now we have some bad news for the Democrats, too. Same as any day. Yeah. But I

01:15:16.180 mean, particularly bad. I'll start with the bad. This is just one from Harry Anton on the

01:15:21.480 independence. This is one of the reasons why not the primary, but one of them that we need to wrap

01:15:26.040 this thing up. ASAP. This is real. It's not fake polls. It's all the polls are showing this. But

01:15:32.020 here's the latest SOT5. If there's one big number from this is that Donald Trump now has the worst

01:15:38.600 net approval rating among independents of any president ever at this point in term two. He is

01:15:44.400 worse than Richard Nixon, who would be going adios amigos in a few months back in 1974 and term two.

01:15:51.180 Look at this. Minus 45 points. Worse than George W. Bush at this point in term two.

01:15:56.140 The Iraq war was weighing him down at minus 37. And worse than Richard Nixon.

01:16:00.020 When, of course, there were all those impeachment hearings back in 1974 at minus 36 points.

01:16:04.880 He's nearly 10 points worse among independents on his net approval rating at this point in term two.

01:16:09.740 Donald Trump is then Richard Nixon. My goodness gracious.

01:16:15.160 Fisher Nixon. Richard Nixon got a bad deal. I'm just going to say it. But anyway, OK.

01:16:20.440 Whoa, you should do a true crime style special on that.

01:16:24.320 I have a lot of thoughts.

01:16:25.460 In fact, I am going to.

01:16:27.000 There's somebody in particular who I have in mind to book on this.

01:16:29.220 Excellent.

01:16:29.500 Yeah, when the news cycle quiets down.

01:16:31.740 I think I know who it is.

01:16:32.960 Yeah, I bet you do.

01:16:34.780 Every year we go skiing on President's Day sometimes and we wear these jerseys that I

01:16:41.120 had made that have the presidents, like various presidents on the back, like they're pictures.

01:16:47.540 You make your kids do this? 0.59

01:16:48.800 I do.

01:16:50.440 We've got Reagan, we've got Lincoln, and little Thatcher wears Nixon. 1.00

01:16:57.540 Coolest kid on the slope.

01:16:58.920 No question.

01:16:59.820 Doug went for Martin Van Buren just to confuse people.

01:17:02.880 That'll do it.

01:17:03.200 Nobody knows what they—because it's got their pictures on it.

01:17:05.600 Like, you can see that it's one of those old-timey, like, white hair photos.

01:17:08.500 People are just so confused when they see Doug's—

01:17:10.320 He's custom?

01:17:11.360 Yes.

01:17:11.960 That's such a waste of money.

01:17:13.440 They're custom.

01:17:15.200 Who the hell knows what Martin Van Buren did?

01:17:17.180 I mean—

01:17:17.920 Not me.

01:17:18.640 Not me.

01:17:19.160 We're bringing him back.

01:17:20.020 good it's about time anyway all the lifties will say to thatcher like you're oh you're

01:17:25.740 are you a nixon fan and thatcher's now gotten to the point where he knows to say it's complicated

01:17:29.960 he was framed anyway uh so that's bad those are some bad old numbers there i'm on um the

01:17:38.120 independence and it makes you a little concerned about 2026 and the senate yeah well the senate

01:17:45.000 i don't think he's getting enough attention there are races i mean so first of all the

01:17:48.440 polls that are coming out of Maine, it's very early. And Susan Collins has proven enormously

01:17:52.380 resilient. Dems fielded a, this is controversial, but I do think Grant Plattner is a strong

01:17:57.480 candidate. So I do think Maine is on the table. I agree with you. I think Dan Osborne is a strong

01:18:02.160 candidate. He's independent, but he's running in Nebraska. I don't think Texas is on the table,

01:18:06.560 but I think there are a couple of other places where it's, I mean, it's not, it's looking like

01:18:11.540 things are a toss up. Ohio could possibly be one of those places when you have numbers like this,

01:18:16.480 Because what I was going to say is looking at that when Harry Anton talked about the George W. Bush numbers, that is such a visceral memory for all of us.

01:18:24.180 The way the culture turned against the Republican Party during that time period, it doesn't just infect the president.

01:18:30.980 And that's doubly bad for Trump because he needs that coalition to come out for him.

01:18:38.400 This has always been the case.

01:18:40.020 It's very hard to do when he's not on the ballot.

01:18:42.300 And it's going to be even harder when he's not on the ballot and people don't like him.

01:18:47.580 I mean, unless they surprise us and say this will be the first year Trump's not on the ballot is a good thing.

01:18:52.460 I don't think so. Interesting point. But I don't think it doesn't motivate.

01:18:55.740 You need the base to be really, really excited about Trump and the Republicans don't have their own independent brand.

01:19:01.220 Right. And if he's telling you to go support Susan Collins, you need that to work.

01:19:05.920 You need that to make the mom who's busy with drop off. 0.99

01:19:09.320 You need her to say, I'm actually going to go to the polls today. It's important.

01:19:12.300 there isn't the motivating factor right now

01:19:14.940 other than they're not Democrats.

01:19:17.140 You know, it's like there was a motivating factor

01:19:19.000 in 2024 for sure.

01:19:21.080 You know, Trump's agenda was so different

01:19:23.100 from that of Kamala Harris.

01:19:25.020 I don't regret voting for Trump one bit.

01:19:27.520 I mean, what that, 0.96

01:19:29.040 she wanted to cut off the body parts of young children. 1.00

01:19:31.540 She's a fucking psycho. 1.00

01:19:34.120 Okay, so at least Trump's got, 1.00

01:19:35.480 I disagree with the war,

01:19:36.300 but at least he's got a rationale for it

01:19:37.900 that he's pursuing that you could like say,

01:19:40.100 okay, I understand, sort of.

01:19:41.940 So it's kind of been all over the board.

01:19:43.460 Kind of follow it.

01:19:43.920 But there's a few reasons, real reasons that have been offered.

01:19:47.980 So the Democrats have not yet gotten to the place where the country's looking at them as like, okay, you're a reasonable alternative.

01:19:55.500 That's sanity.

01:19:56.560 Right.

01:19:56.780 Now, I will say when I look at like 2024 candidates, I continue to hear Rahm Emanuel say smart things that I find like kind of reasonable.

01:20:03.720 I realize there's a whole history there.

01:20:06.380 But he is the only Democrat I see that's making some sense.

01:20:11.000 Like he says things that Republicans could get behind.

01:20:13.960 He'll never make it through the primary process.

01:20:16.680 Anybody who's sensible doesn't on Team Blue in particular.

01:20:20.420 But here's what they're up against.

01:20:22.620 We'll stick with Harry Enten.

01:20:23.980 Why not?

01:20:25.980 Sot 58.

01:20:27.480 Look at this net favorability party ahead at this point.

01:20:30.680 Midterm of years with the GOP president in 2018.

01:20:33.400 Dems were up by 12 in 2006 on net favorability.

01:20:36.480 Which party like more Dems are ahead by 18.

01:20:38.660 Republicans are actually ahead on net favorability at this point by five points.

01:20:42.760 So Democrats are just simply put running behind their previous benchmarks and they need to be running well ahead of them if they want to take back the United States Senate, given that math.

01:20:51.420 To be clear, both parties are wildly unfavorable right now.

01:20:54.900 However, Democrats are even more unpopular than Republicans.

01:20:58.880 Some of these charts.

01:20:59.520 Yeah. All right. There's some good news.

01:21:01.980 They hate both parties, but they hate the Dems a little more.

01:21:06.380 That's amazing, by the way.

01:21:07.920 Right. Like how we started a war that no one likes.

01:21:12.000 Trump is the most polarizing figure in modern politics other than George W. Bush.

01:21:16.760 Yeah. And he is now on W. Bush levels of popularity and Democrats are still five points below.

01:21:22.980 And when I checked RCP last, their averages compared to the 2018 midterms where Dems had that blue tsunami.

01:21:30.020 I think it was even Harry Anton that called it that.

01:21:31.740 But right now, Republicans are—it's not as bad as it was then.

01:21:37.980 So the margin is still not as strong for Democrats as it was when they had their blue tsunami year.

01:21:42.680 And I think some of that is hangover from 2024 because not all of them have figured out how to talk like Rahm Emanuel on culture questions. 0.80

01:21:50.080 They're crazy. 0.61

01:21:50.980 All I think about when I think about the Democrats is those very unattractive people in Minneapolis. 0.99

01:21:55.800 That's—when I think Democrat, that's what I think.

01:21:58.260 I think them.

01:21:59.840 And I think crazy Alyssa Slotkin, like lecturing Pete Hegseth, like, I know, I know you've done your genuflection. 0.98

01:22:07.480 That's smug, arrogant. 0.99

01:22:09.380 I'm better than you. 0.91

01:22:10.760 I look down my nose on you, even though you've done three tours of duty. 0.98

01:22:15.160 Like, F you.

01:22:16.780 I like that to me.

01:22:18.320 I could never vote for never.

01:22:20.520 I mean, honestly, Trump could drop a nuke and I'd still vote Republican over those people because they want to have a new voter.

01:22:27.620 In some ways, I really am.

01:22:29.140 They but honestly, they what they want to do is nuke our own country. 0.66

01:22:32.700 You know, it's like the open border, what they're doing to children.

01:22:35.820 All that stuff is still that they would do it all if put back in power.

01:22:39.320 And I think most Republicans know that, which is why we have that soundbite from Harry Enten.

01:22:44.500 And here's a little bit more from him on how the Democrats own voters feel about them.

01:22:48.560 It's not six.

01:22:49.520 You might say, OK, well, at least Dems like Democrats.

01:22:53.240 Uh-uh, not the case.

01:22:54.780 Look at this.

01:22:55.260 The majority of Democrats are independents who lean Democrats.

01:22:58.200 Look at this.

01:22:59.140 55% say no, congressional Democrats do not have the right priorities.

01:23:04.020 And then you just see a minority, 45% of Democrats,

01:23:08.360 say that congressional Democrats have the right priorities.

01:23:10.700 This, to me, just jumps out at the screen

01:23:12.200 because it screams primary challenges all over the map.

01:23:14.800 And it says that even if Democrats don't like Donald Trump,

01:23:17.500 they don't like their own party either when it comes to Congress.

01:23:20.960 And overall, I mean, my goodness gracious.

01:23:23.060 The bottom has fallen out.

01:23:25.160 The bottom has fallen out.

01:23:26.740 Minus four points.

01:23:28.080 That is Democrats. Democrats own net approval of their own congressional leaders. Even Democrats

01:23:35.060 don't like their own leaders when it comes to Congress. And overall, of course, the numbers

01:23:39.360 are just absolutely awful. So Democrat on Democrat crime. Absolutely. This to me screams again,

01:23:45.400 primary challenges across the map. And it screams to me, hey, when it comes to those

01:23:49.680 next leadership elections, maybe something might be cooking. Not just the leadership elections.

01:23:55.500 that's reflecting just how loathsome most of these Democrats are, especially the ones in Congress. 0.50

01:24:02.000 It's so it's such a mess for Democrats for a couple of reasons. First of all, 0.96

01:24:05.400 those are Tea Party level numbers. And there was a poll that came out last July that showed it

01:24:09.600 almost exactly mirroring Tea Party era for Republicans. And what that means, to Harry

01:24:15.180 Anton's point, is primary challenges. We're already starting to see that mostly it's falling

01:24:19.120 along the Israel line for Democrats, which is interesting because a lot of their lack of

01:24:25.040 appeal to average Americans isn't just about that. I mean, it might be some of that. If you're

01:24:29.800 kind of an independent leaning Democrat, people don't agree with them on their gender, sex and

01:24:35.440 gender policy, and they don't agree with them on the border. And they have not come up with

01:24:40.120 any suitable answers for the independent leaning Democrats on either of those questions. They've

01:24:44.920 tried and then gotten shouted down and their own staffers have quit, like in the case of Seth

01:24:49.000 Moulton and just had to walk it back. Gavin Newsom had to walk it back. So, so weak. It's a litmus

01:24:54.660 test for voters. And just in the same way they see Israel as a litmus test, they want to know

01:24:58.880 that you are, you know, being honest with them. And if you are still saying that men can become

01:25:04.220 women, if you are still not coming up with an answer, what is your policy for the border? 0.77

01:25:09.180 They can never answer that question in a way that is satisfactory.

01:25:12.140 Rahm Emanuel did. He said, I would leave President Trump's border policies in place.

01:25:18.000 Not on deportation, but on the border. He said, I'd leave it in place. And he actually was just

01:25:22.920 in the news last week saying Israel has too much influence over American domestic policy.

01:25:28.960 Interesting. I know. Very interesting from Rahm Emanuel. And on top of that,

01:25:33.680 the the border situation like Joe Biden, the last year of his presidency, he said,

01:25:38.000 oh, you have to do this with legislation. This can't be done with EOs. Then he does it with EOs

01:25:42.300 around in a day, June of 2024, right before. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Biden. Yeah. Yeah.

01:25:48.780 And that is the only reason he could get away with that, because they knew they had a tough

01:25:52.380 election coming. Of course, we all knew. Right. And now they can't go back to it. And that's why

01:25:57.120 his policy was such a disaster in the first place, because they were coasting on the abolish ICE

01:26:00.860 vibes of Trump 1.0. Yeah. And then it felt like Biden had permission to just literally open the

01:26:05.840 border. I know. To be more humane. Yeah. Until he didn't. And that's about to happen again,

01:26:10.000 because nobody has a plan, I guess, except for Rahm Emanuel. I know. To be more humane. Tell

01:26:14.020 it to Sheridan Gorman. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't more humane. You just made sure a whole bunch

01:26:18.160 of Americans got killed by illegals. It's disgusting what Joe Biden did. And Trump, 0.99

01:26:22.400 yes, he did one fig leaf in June to try to make himself look a little better. And then Trump

01:26:26.060 really did close up the border. Look, I would like there to be an era in which we have some

01:26:31.500 sane Democrats who can make it into the real contest and be seriously considered so that the

01:26:37.420 risks are not that great. So it's not like if Trump had lost, I really do feel like the country

01:26:43.860 would have been, I don't want to say it would be lost. That's too dramatic, but it would be

01:26:49.520 changed forever. It already was thanks to Joe Biden. Like we're never going to get those 10

01:26:55.580 million plus illegals out. Look what happened. We just tried to get 1 million out by having,

01:27:01.780 you know, this more aggressive immigration deportation policy come to major American

01:27:05.800 cities. It caused absolute chaos. And that was actually the beginning of Trump's falling

01:27:09.700 poll numbers because people didn't like to see it. The media, of course, misrepresented it.

01:27:13.860 and he had to back off, and now he's just doing worst first, but even that is going to be a real

01:27:18.740 challenge. We're not going to have those 10 million. Those 10 million are here to stay, 0.73

01:27:22.380 and the Supreme Court is going to rule that their anchor babies give them, you know, the babies the 0.99

01:27:27.720 right to citizenship and that they can stay here. We can't have another Democrat in the White House 1.00

01:27:32.720 until that whole thing is reversed somehow. We've amended the 14th Amendment to make clear that

01:27:39.400 birthright citizenship is not what they say it is. We've built a wall. We've imposed E-Verify 0.97

01:27:46.620 so that these people self-deport because they literally cannot get jobs. Every employer will

01:27:50.880 figure out whether they are an illegal and tell them no, or they face massive penalties. There's,

01:27:56.040 there are ways Trump's not unleashing those ways. I know a lot of hardcore Republicans who really

01:28:00.280 want E-Verify across the nation. He won't do it. He's, you know, from the hotel industry and he's

01:28:06.400 like agriculture. And these are a lot of his donors who use illegals. They, they say that

01:28:11.460 they have to, that's bullshit. They don't have to. Anyway, these are, these are deal breakers 1.00

01:28:17.020 and the Democrats will make those problems worse again, reminding young people, this actually is

01:28:22.500 a problem you need to focus on just because you had Trump in the office for four years. Doesn't

01:28:25.420 mean it's been solved forever. Uh, anyway, hopefully that's already being factored into

01:28:29.800 those hairy intern numbers. Okay. Quick break. We are back with more. Don't go away after this.

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01:31:29.320 the news as we get it. Emily Jashinsky is back with me. And if you're wondering why we cannot

01:31:34.860 vote Democrat and why we should believe those hairy numbers, I'm going to show you a proof.

01:31:41.520 SOT 8, Megan Rapinoe. This committee is framing it as based in science, which it's not. And this

01:31:50.060 will ultimately just prevent people from competing within the women's category that they feel like 1.00

01:31:56.260 have an unfair advantage. It's just really hateful. It's like there's been so few athletes

01:32:04.400 that are trans are competing as trans and it's like so blatant on its face. It's just a total 1.00

01:32:11.800 like acquiescence to the Trump administration and to really right-wing conservative politics

01:32:20.440 that really is just like bringing down so much hate against such a small percentage of people

01:32:28.840 who are just trying to live their life. So it's just horrible. And I'm just sickened by it, really.

01:32:36.380 She's very upset about the IOC, the Olympic Committee International, making it clear that

01:32:42.300 biological men will no longer be permitted to compete in women's sports. And it's because it 1.00

01:32:47.780 just only happens to such a small group of girls that they should just suck it up and suffer. 1.00

01:32:52.420 They should lose their gold medals. They should take the beating in the face 1.00

01:32:55.760 by a man in the boxing ring and quit all the whining. Like me, Megan Rapinoe, sitting with 0.99

01:33:02.880 my millions and my endorsements having made it to the top that you can hear the sound of the

01:33:07.740 ladder being pulled up, Emily. That's infuriating because it's such a egregious moving of the

01:33:13.420 goalposts. Like this, the line was, it's fine. It's not a real advantage. And now the line is,

01:33:20.240 oh, it might be a real advantage, but you're still going to have to put up with it.

01:33:24.400 It's just, it's just so few.

01:33:26.020 Right. Don't worry about it. It's just a couple of people. But again, before it was,

01:33:30.280 there's no medical scientific, like we were listening to that for however many years. And

01:33:34.940 I remember interviewing one of the Connecticut track girls years ago. Uh, it was probably like

01:33:39.480 2020 and asking, you know, how is this affecting? Cause there were two, the, this year, there were

01:33:45.140 two men who were competing in the women's boys who were competing in the women's who had done

01:33:49.560 nothing to handle their testosterone or at all. Yeah, exactly. And I remember asking,

01:33:54.720 is it just like one or two that'll upset the scholarship system? Right. And the answer I got

01:33:59.620 was yes, because of course it does. Because if you never won. Exactly. And so as soon as you start

01:34:04.080 moving down the ranks in all of these different matches and statewide or whatever, all it takes

01:34:08.320 is a couple of boys competing in one state, a small state like Connecticut. That's really all

01:34:13.920 it takes to screw it up for everybody, let alone it's obviously ridiculous on its face. But it is 0.93

01:34:18.480 so obnoxious that after for years saying it's not a problem, it's not a problem, foisting this on

01:34:23.540 the public, then blaming conservatives for saying, oh, hey, we want to talk about this culture war

01:34:30.160 issue. This is wrong. After you forced us to deal with it. Yeah. Like, give me not the norm. You

01:34:35.340 changed the norm. We objected because this isn't normal. There's nothing. And she talks about it

01:34:39.740 so cavalierly. I think about the girl. She's never been publicly identified in Lowell, Massachusetts,

01:34:43.840 who was on the field hockey team and got whacked by a boy in the mouth so hard. Her teeth got

01:34:51.840 knocked out. And it wasn't just that girl's horror in the pain and the dentistry she would have to

01:34:57.800 go through. It was the horror of every girl on the field who was shocked and genuinely disturbed

01:35:05.080 to see the bloody damage that had been done to their teammate by a boy who had no business

01:35:11.980 playing field hockey again. Fuck Megan Rapinoe. You know, after Easter, I promised myself I was 1.00

01:35:17.020 going to rain in the swearing. I did. I was feeling very godly, even though we didn't get

01:35:21.140 the communion. Oh, that's it. Yeah, maybe that's my problem. Dang. Anyway, shame on you, Megan

01:35:28.640 Rapinoe. There we go. Shame on you. Also, who can I like I don't even Megan Rapinoe is so much 1.00

01:35:33.160 less of a threat now in 2020, whatever year it is, than she was in 2019. I know. It's like it's

01:35:38.420 almost laughable. No one cares. You pushed this. It worked on the institutions for a couple of

01:35:44.080 years and then everybody got wise to it. So you making this argument now, does it still bother me

01:35:49.420 because it's wrong. It will still probably affect girls in blue states that have to put, yes, 1.00

01:35:53.380 absolutely. It still bothers me. And your story is a great one. The Lowell Mass one, because that's

01:35:57.260 one boy. That's all it took was a swing from one boy. It doesn't, her point is irrelevant.

01:36:03.320 Yeah. Doesn't she care? I'd love to see her look that girl in the face and say like, 1.00

01:36:07.360 so what? It's happening so infrequently. It's not an issue. Good. Okay. Tell it to that girl.

01:36:12.040 I mean, the amount of trauma, like emotional trauma, not to mention the physical and having

01:36:17.220 to deal with that would be truly horrifying. She's not the only reason. This woman happens 0.74

01:36:21.740 to be married to the likely Democrat nominee, I think it's fair to say. Her name is Jennifer

01:36:26.300 Newsom, SOT9. I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear the head off. I've given them dolls

01:36:34.640 to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, 1.00

01:36:40.080 but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men. What I've done with

01:36:47.220 both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just

01:36:53.280 change the he to a she. And it just normalizes for my sons in particular. It's not even, I don't 0.97

01:36:58.580 even just do it for my girls. I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the 0.99

01:37:03.100 center of a story that women matter oh my lord that women are interesting this no at the end 0.99

01:37:10.940 of the day we're all kind of like everyone knows that in this place in history maybe where we're

01:37:17.220 recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human

01:37:22.680 that's exciting to me oh my god that was great she lives in california she was in san

01:37:32.860 francisco is she having difficulty finding books in which female protagonists are present like she

01:37:41.200 should spend walk a mile in my shoes on the upper west side of manhattan they're everywhere that's

01:37:45.160 all you can find they got rid of all the books where the males are the protagonist too many women 0.97

01:37:48.840 first of all i'm sick of hearing about women tired they all sound like that and the the notion 0.99

01:37:55.200 that you have to teach boys how to treat women well by giving them dolls otherwise they won't 0.98

01:38:01.520 be caretakers? What are you talking about? Boys learn about caretaking from a loving mother who

01:38:07.200 was caretaking to them. You fool. It's not from giving them a fucking doll. Again, a doll, 1.00

01:38:14.100 a doll, Jennifer. This stuff also has real consequences for boys. It's like, it's hilarious

01:38:19.720 to hear it, but when it translates into policy, I mean, Christina Hoff Summers wrote a whole book

01:38:23.500 about this called War Against Boys. It was my college internship was helping on the re-release

01:38:27.820 of that book and you go through it over and over again, you're like, yes, recess completely has

01:38:33.680 been like clipped up. You have less recess now. There are all kinds of like little policies on

01:38:39.360 the state level that have made boys hate school. And some of it is straight because of that

01:38:43.920 mentality, which we've been going through for how many years now? Decades now. And it's boys are

01:38:48.640 having worse outcomes. Why? Because you're feminizing their environment. And she's totally 1.00

01:38:52.760 talking about boys as though uh they're still completely dominant it's a complete patriarchy

01:38:58.240 out there you know we're we're getting we have two kids in high school right now our boy is the

01:39:03.220 oldest our daughter is a year behind him and you to look at like the college admissions rates you'd

01:39:09.680 much rather be a girl oh yeah you'd much rather be a girl right now it's like she's the 1950s called

01:39:16.320 and they'd like their culture back jennifer truly like i don't i can't imagine what these boys are

01:39:21.000 like. And meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is going to come out on the scene and try to pretend that

01:39:24.820 he's like some badass, like tough guy. I guarantee you he's going to be doing some of the Tim Walls

01:39:28.580 camo shit because he needs to. He's already got like leftist feminists who want like a hot 1.00

01:39:34.660 whatever. So now he's going to have to telegraph a little bit. I'm a man's man. That's why he

01:39:39.660 interviewed with Charlie. That's why he interviewed with Steve Bannon. He wants to do some reach out

01:39:43.940 to Republicans. And like most Democrats, he's not going to understand them. And he's going to think

01:39:47.600 it requires him to wear camo. And he's got this hot mess of a liability on the other side of him,

01:39:54.040 much like a Tim Walsh couldn't make us believe that because he was gay, but also his wife.

01:40:00.320 Well, you know what the the camo, the Tim Walsh camo hat, you know what that was for? That was

01:40:04.660 you tape your tampon under the brim. That's what that was. A lot of people never picked up on that,

01:40:09.380 but that's what it was for. Is it this is what I was just gonna ask. Is it his son with Jennifer

01:40:13.920 Siebel Newsom, who was a Charlie Kirkless fan? Yes. Yes. So that's what playing with it,

01:40:19.300 forcing the dolls on them will get you. Exactly. Like, are they even listening to themselves?

01:40:23.900 All of the studies show that if you put little boys and little girls into a toy store,

01:40:29.940 the boys will naturally go over to the trucks. The girls will naturally go over to the dolls. 0.69

01:40:34.900 It's not because they're little sexist pigs when they come into the world. There are certain things 0.98

01:40:38.840 that are pre-wired in us genetically.

01:40:41.620 And there's nothing wrong with that.

01:40:42.720 Boys should lean into their hunter gas 1.00

01:40:44.800 or to their protector biology

01:40:47.660 and girls should lean into their caretaking biology. 1.00

01:40:51.300 Doesn't mean you can't do either,

01:40:52.900 but society will teach them

01:40:54.580 that there are other options available to them.

01:40:56.980 Society will teach them that it's not all killing prey

01:41:00.520 or nurturing a baby. 0.63

01:41:02.680 I mean, I grew up in the 1970s.

01:41:04.640 Were things better for women in the 1970s 0.74

01:41:06.300 than they are now?

01:41:06.900 No.

01:41:07.640 Somehow I figured it out, Jennifer, and so did you.

01:41:10.040 She's like not that much younger than I am.

01:41:11.600 I think she might be around my age.

01:41:12.740 But at least you weren't getting whacked in the face with field hockey sticks.

01:41:15.980 Yeah.

01:41:16.420 I mean, this is where that stuff starts because if you go back to the 80s and the 90s, this

01:41:20.980 is how a lot of the feminists were talking is that it was the pathologization, I don't 1.00

01:41:25.280 even know if that's a word, of masculinity, treating healthy masculinity, not actual toxic

01:41:30.020 masculinity as a pathology.

01:41:31.400 Yes.

01:41:31.660 And that's how you end up saying, well, you just have to be feminized.

01:41:36.140 You must be feminized. 0.99

01:41:37.240 All the good men are feminized.

01:41:38.900 Exactly.

01:41:39.800 That's like, that's why her husband crosses his legs the way he does.

01:41:43.900 It's happened to him.

01:41:44.960 He's just a beautiful, beautiful man.

01:41:47.200 He is good looking.

01:41:48.400 I can't take that away from him.

01:41:49.440 He's too creepy for me. 0.98

01:41:50.840 He's like too American psycho, which he's leaning into. 0.87

01:41:53.320 Yes, he does have a Patrick Bateman look about him.

01:41:55.920 I mean, I think, unfortunately, people, we end where we began.

01:42:00.720 It's a full circle.

01:42:01.520 People like attractive people.

01:42:04.240 They do well.

01:42:05.220 Attractive people tend to do well.

01:42:06.760 They tend to do better in life

01:42:08.160 than people who aren't as polished.

01:42:10.500 So we're going to need somebody over on Team Red

01:42:12.480 who's like, got it together.

01:42:14.640 That's why we should hope for J.B. Pritzker to win

01:42:16.740 over Gavin Newsom.

01:42:18.600 Or just stick with Kamala.

01:42:19.820 Give it another roll.

01:42:21.480 We accept.

01:42:22.820 Emily, a pleasure, my friend.

01:42:24.400 Thank you, Megan.

01:42:24.980 So good to see you.

01:42:26.000 She's going to keep it rolling.

01:42:26.820 She's doing the after show in a minute.

01:42:28.880 And we'll continue to monitor that Trump presser,

01:42:32.140 among others.

01:42:33.020 Thanks.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 06, 2026

Daring Rescue Mission, Trump's MAJOR Warning to Iran, and a Very Special Makeover, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1289

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