Debating and Discussing the GOP Debate, with Listeners and Viewers： Megyn Kelly Show Weekend Extra ｜ Ep. 615
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After watching the first CNN primary debate, Megyn and her guests give their thoughts on what they thought of the candidates' performance. They also take questions from the audience and discuss the impact the debate had on their views on the candidates.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. I'm Megyn Kelly. And here's a little extra for you.
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We decided to take some calls from our audience members who have strong thoughts about the debate
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that happened on Fox News. And what better way to hear those thoughts than from the folks directly?
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We're going to kick it off with Lane in Texas. Lane, thanks for calling. What are your thoughts
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on how the debate went? Hi, Megyn. Two thoughts on Ron DeSantis. I'm a Florida guy. I'm just
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traveling through Texas working. But I really wish when the Ukraine thing came up, I think people
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would have sat back in their seats if he would have said, hey, these are my feelings right now.
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I'm pretty sure I'm right. But until I get in that office and I get briefings that no one else on the
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planet gets, I'm not 100% and I am open-minded. I think people would have sat up in their chair
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and said, whoa, honesty. How about that? And the other thing is, well, maybe not. But the other
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thing is, we've had a couple of years in Florida to get used to this guy. He never sleeps. He gets a
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lot done. But he is really, he's hard to like. And he doesn't have time to make people like him. So
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I kind of agree with you guys that he's not going to make it. Why is he hard to like?
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He just doesn't have any sense of humor. He's straightforward. And he seems like if you
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disagree with him, he really comes at you hard. Even though, you know, most people did agree with
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his stance on Disney. You know, he got the bridge rebuilt through the hurricane in Fort Myers in three
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days, so he could get supplies. But he's just, he's just there. He has no, no little, he's not
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quick-witted. And he's just kind of, kind of a boring guy. You know, but the guy's a worker. He
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gets everything done, but he's not going to be able to show the country that in time, I don't think.
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Maybe, maybe just being the policy guy could have worked if there were not a Trump. But there is a
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Trump. And so something extraordinary is going to be required for any of these guys, you know,
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unless, God forbid, something terrible happens to Trump. And then the field goes back to the,
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respectfully, again, the B team last night, they're not going to get it done. Something
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extraordinary would have to happen. And it didn't last night, wasn't it? Lane, thank you for calling
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in. Let's go to Anne in Arizona. Anne, hi, what are your thoughts on the debate?
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You know, I just thought nothing they said up there changed my mind one moment. I have three
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daughters. I, you know, I'm not really focused on women's issues, but they never even asked about
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the whole girls in sports, the trans kids things. Right.
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That kind of stuff really upsets me, like makes me stand in my chair and go, what the F
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is going on in this country? But Lane, we had a question on UFOs. I mean, I just thought it was
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so ridiculous. Right. Right. I have. I actually, all my daughters are swimmers. When the Leah Thompson
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thing happened, I was like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I live in a city that's very
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liberal, very liberal. Me and my conservative girlfriends, we have to huddle together to
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discuss like issues of what do you think about this? What do you think about this? If we say
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things to our liberal friends, they like are crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And I'm really, you know,
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I have been a Trump supporter, not from day one, but I did vote for him twice. I actually have a
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daughter who's like a huge Trump supporter. And I'm really worried about him being our candidate then
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because I see the hate on the other side, the motivating hate. I mean, it's visceral. The Trump
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derangement syndrome is crazy where I live. And I see it and I'm like, I wish he just wouldn't have
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entered. You know, will I vote for him if he's our candidate? Yeah. If I get the chance not to vote
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for him in the primary, I will. But Arizona is one of the last. So by the time it gets to us,
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like, okay, I'll go vote, you know. Same. I mean, I've been living in New York and Connecticut and
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our votes don't count. I mean, we all know those states are going blue. By the way, it's Ann. Sorry,
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I called you Lane. That was our last caller. Keep going. And that's okay. That's okay. You know,
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I live in Arizona. I'm actually a Texan. I live in Arizona. But I see the California migration
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into Arizona, into Texas. And that scares the hell out of me, because those people aren't coming here
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and going, oh, I love free Arizona and free Texas. Arizona is now a blue state, pretty much.
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What do you think? I mean, here's the question, because I think Trump, Trump would say, Ann,
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he would say, they're going to hate any Republican nominee and try to destroy them the way they are
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me. I think you could definitely make that case on DeSantis. They hate him, for sure. Maybe Vivek,
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who's upsetting them right now, or certainly will if he keeps talking the way he did last night.
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But what do you, do you really, do you think he's wrong?
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Um, um, somewhat, he, there is something particular about him that drives people insane.
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Passed from day one. Like DeSantis, during the whole COVID thing, when he would come back at the
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media, and he would actually, you know, like, they would ask him questions, and he would be like,
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what are you talking about? We did this, this, this, and fire off, like, four, five facts. Why are
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they wrong? I would, like, stand up and go, yes, somebody actually explained why that person is a
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jerk asking that question. Whereas, like, Trump is just, oh, fake news, you're an idiot, whatever,
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name-calling, whatever. You know, name-calling doesn't really bother me, but it does a lot of people.
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And I actually like Vivek. I think he's super smart. I think he comes at the questions
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directly, sort of like, um, DeSantis used to, but he's really young. And like, some of his policy
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positions, I think are a little too, like, extreme for me. Like, let's just ban everything and start
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over. Well, that's not going to work. We need to work with some reform to get some of these people out.
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I don't know what that's going to look like, but, you know, I just don't want to be like,
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oh, let's ban the FBI. Well, you know, there is a purpose for the FBI.
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Yes, there is. Yeah. And I know it's some of the stuff that just sounds good. It sounds good
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to a faction of the Republican base. But realistically, do we want to get rid of the
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group that's searching out, you know, terrorists from other countries who are here laying in wait,
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trying to hurt us again? I don't know. Down to the studs is one thing, but don't keep the studs
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at least and rebuild. And like child trafficking, I'm a huge proponent of what's going on with child
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trafficking. I'm like, I don't understand why the Democrats
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are okay with open borders when it causes women to be raped and children to be raped all through
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Mexico on their way here. And then when they get here, we don't even check who's brought them across.
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How are the Democrats even okay with that? And then and then I watch the Republicans answer stuff.
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And I'm like, that's your answer. I'm like, you can't be more direct on that. Like you can't come
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at that, you know, even if they're wrong, it would be so nice to see them take a risk. That's what I
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like about Vivek is just right. He'll take a risk even if he's wrong. He's bold about it. And I think
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he would he would admit I was wrong or my my my thinking change. And, you know, like our first
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guest was saying, our first caller, I think the party would forgive him for that evolution. But
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right now you can tell when they're lying and they're doing a politician thing. And it's just
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I mean, if we still had the old funny Saturday Night Live, couldn't they be having a field day on
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what we saw on Wednesday night with like the pen serious with the furrowed brow and the long
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pauses and the repeated references to his faith and the vague with like the huge toothy smile and
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the making fun of everybody finger in the air and you come here and hug me big guy. Like there's just
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so much such a funny cast of characters. But, you know, authenticity probably are defined. Listen,
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thank you for calling in. Such a pleasure talking to you. Let's keep going. Linda in California is on
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the line. Hi, Linda. What are your thoughts on the debate? Hi, Megan. Well, first, I want to
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say thank you for standing up for girls sports. I am retired military, a nurse, I feel like
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they've missed the opportunity to address us independence. And I feel we're the ones that
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are going to be deciding this election. It's not the people who are going to vote on, they're going
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to vote for Trump. And it's not the people in the Biden. It's going to be us in the middle and how
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they choose to move us over to their side. And I think last night, they all missed it.
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I was liberal, pretty liberal, independent, and now I'm pushing more. They're pushing me over to
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more conservative. I was I am in San Diego, but I moved to Nevada. I'm one of those people that have
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moved over to a different state. But I think everyone should be thinking, what about the
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independents? How are we going to get them to see our side? And I feel like I'm totally ignored by both
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parties. Hmm. It's so hard. You know, the Republican Party has been having this debate
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for many years. And I think of somebody like Ann Coulter, who's been sounding the alarm saying the
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answer is not to go more moderate for the love of God. Pick a true conservative rally, the conservative
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base. They will turn out in droves. That's how you win elections. She did not like McCain, for example.
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She did not like Romney. She she did like Trump because she's pretty much a single issue voter on
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immigration. And this time around, she's pushing DeSantis very hard and can't stand Trump. But
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that they've been debating within themselves for years about do you sort of excite the base or do
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you play more for the general and think about independents like you, Linda? And I don't know that
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they've figured it out. Because I think really, when we look at it, who's going to tip the scale?
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It's going to be me. It's going to be the people like me. And that's what they need to be focusing
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on. It's not going to be the strict Republicans and the strict Democrats. You know, what can make
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me choose their side? I don't like either one of them, to be honest. I was very open to hearing all
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the different Republican candidates last night. But you know, there were a lot of questions that they
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didn't ask that I wanted to hear. You know, I didn't want to hear about UFOs. I did want to hear about
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I'm a nurse practitioner. I do care about the children in this country, and what they're doing
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to them. I do care about the schools. That was very, the education part of this was very small.
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But you know, and the military, I don't know if we really even talked about that in any detail.
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You know, that's a good point. That is a good point. Because honestly, like having having worked
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at Fox, I saw them doing like tipping the hat to the patriotism with the national anthem. And then the
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at the end, a question about the waning patriotism. How about a question on the military and the
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recruiting problems? How about like, instead of like the showiness of like, oh, we love America,
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we're Fox, we're, you know, we're paying homage, actually ask a substantive question,
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like get to something that matters to military men and women like yourself.
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It's very sad. I have a son in the military still too. And the, you know, recruitment, you know,
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what are we going to do? What are the risks? You know, I did like the questions about China
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and Russia, but you know, they didn't even really get to touch on it so much. I didn't get to hear
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from each person what they're, you know, I think they were so busy fighting each other and tried to
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upstage each other in a way that I didn't get to hear the meat and potatoes of what they each stand
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for, you know, and I listen to you all the time. You know, I feel like I'm the Joe Plummer from years
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ago when they look at him, you know, I'm the person that everyone's ignoring. And there's so many of us,
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there's a lot of us out here and I hope that they, at the next debate, they start asking these
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questions or at least giving them more time, each individual. Well, here's the good thing.
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They're probably going to have, I think, 10, maybe 11 debates if they do it the way they did it last
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time. So you will get these issues addressed eventually. Thank you for your service and thank
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you for calling. Let's keep going. Jeff in Illinois. Hi, Jeff. What are your thoughts?
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Hi, Megan. Absolutely love your show. So my thought is that many people have said that
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with the debates last night that DeSantis and Ramaswamy did not hit a home run. They needed
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to close the gap and they only hit a single. What would your definition be of a home run? Because
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I thought they both did well. I'll give you an example. If I were Ron DeSantis, who's been
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as solid as they come on the issue we were just discussing, the transing of young kids,
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I would have said, you know, something to the effect of, I think one of the problems we're
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having in this country is we're losing our tether on reality. We're actually transitioning little
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boys into a fake version of a little girl. And that man at the end of the stage, Asa Hutchinson,
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who has no business being up here, he has zero shot in this race, who's taking time from valuable
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candidates who actually do have a shot is part of the problem. Let me give you an example of what
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he did. And boom, it doesn't even it's not because Asa Hutchinson is a threat. It's to show us who you
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are, what you stand for and that you're a fighter and you can put our concerns into words in a way
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that will excite us and resonate with us. DeSantis didn't do it. He can do it, but he didn't do it.
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And then he had Vivek, who kind of tried to do it. I thought his best answer was on the climate
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change. I know that, you know, some people found it controversial, but when he started going off
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on the climate change, I thought it was great on education. I thought it was really good.
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He probably came the closest and the others really just kept interjecting to snipe at one another,
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which is fine. You can try to take somebody out, but like you've got to quickly pivot it to
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something that's really going to make me say, yes, as the kids would say, yes, queen, you know,
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that that's what I would say. What do you think, Jeff? I thought they all did well. I thought
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DeSantis did well. There's all this talk about him being so stiff. He's a military man. I love
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the military people. He's not a slobbering slouch that he's a military guy. He's strong in his
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convictions and I like him and he's done well in Florida. And I mean, just look at his track record.
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So he's well-spoken, he's respected, kind of the opposite of what I think the Republicans are going
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against. And all of this, all of these issues, I just don't understand. Just even from a neutral
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standpoint, Southern borders wide open, fentanyl, people being raped. I just don't understand it.
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None of it makes sense. All these issues today, you know, the energy, we need to bring energy back
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to be self-sufficient like we had with Trump. It just doesn't make any sense.
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So what does that mean to you? Who do you support right now?
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It's so hard because there were so many good people last night and I think it'll get whittled
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down in time. I like DeSantis. Vivek has his moments. I like what he has to say. Maybe he's too
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young and he needs a little more seasoning, but I love his ideas. I like Tim Scott. There's so many
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that have so, so many great ideas. And when you compare all those candidates to what we have
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presently and the DOJ and what's happening at all, and it's like, is this, it's insane what's
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happening. There's no common sense. The law abiding taxpaying citizen seems to get penalized
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and all of them. I would take any of them over what we have now, but I kind of lean towards
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DeSantis, but all of them have great ideas. Well, it's good for the RNC to have 10, 11 debates.
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Keep putting them out there. Keep exposing the electorate to their ideas that, you know,
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from that perspective, it's an advantage to have to be in the non-incumbent position,
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though historically it's very hard to convince the country to fire an incumbent, which is what they're
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asking. Thank you for calling, Jeff. We appreciate it. And thanks for listening. Let's go to Vicki
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in Michigan. Hi, Vicki. What are your thoughts? Hi, Megan. I have three things that you spoke about.
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One, did I watch Fox News debates? No. I quit watching Fox News during the COVID crash.
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When they start pushing stuff, I said, all right, this. I knew I would see the highlights,
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you know, on social media, on the news. I'm not going to waste my time. Trump's the front runner.
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He's got my total support. He did 2016, 2020, and he still does. So I watch Tucker.
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Yeah, keep going. Keep going. Sorry. I watched Tucker and Trump and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a
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sit down at the table and have a conversation. And so that's what I did.
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The Trump stuff was hilarious. He made me laugh. Yeah.
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It was. It was hilarious. I loved when he talked about Chris Wallace, when he talked about
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I know. Oh, my God. I love when he talked about Joe Biden on the beach. It's like Trump.
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I know. It's like, oh, please. So, but, you know, I'm one of the highlights that I did see today
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on Fox. I was extremely disappointed. This big sort of democracy across the back,
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the backstage. And not one single American flag. What's with that?
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But America, you know, it's about America, our president. Not one single flag was up there.
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Hmm. I didn't know that. Yeah, I did notice you got you got somebody like the vague who
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now suddenly is wearing the American flag pin. He never was wearing an American flag pin.
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I like that. I don't like it's like, come on, if you don't wear it normally. Right.
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Don't wear it now. I guess. OK, now you're running for president. But please, like if you
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are that patriotic, I know lots of people who wear the American flag pin who are not running
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for president and they tend to be ex-military. They're they love the country, but it's
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whatever. They're everybody. I don't like it when people use it.
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Exactly. I have the American flag flying in my front yard, you know, but it's not because
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I'm a certain political party. It's my country, you know. Yeah. And yeah, don't be something
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you're not just because you're running for a position.
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Yes. That's one thing I like about Chris Christie. I will say, you know, he's authentic. You know,
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he's sort of an authentically a prick, but he is authentic about it. Like he's like, this
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is what I stand for. I'm pissed off. I can't stand Trump. I don't like what's happened to
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my party. And I'm just going to say it like I don't I don't detect any false notes from
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the guy. Exactly. Exactly. And you're right. He's a prick. So in regards to you, you had
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said on your program earlier today, you know, the Vicks had stated, you know, Trump's been
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like the best president ever. Why is he running? Yeah, I have a thought. And it goes into another
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topic that I was ready to talk about, because I didn't think you were going to. And you did at the
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end. I think the Vick is running for a just in case, just in case Trump is indicted, you know, is
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charged with something. He's convicted in case. Right. Just in case. And I pray to God every night. And I
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ask your viewers to the protection of President Trump and his family that an assassination attempt
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is nothing. That gave me a chill. I know. I mean, that's that. I mean, I just can't even imagine the
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chaos that would ensue. God forbid that happened. He's very well protected, thankfully, as he should
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be, as he needs to be. But do you get the sense that there are some who would root for it? There are
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some who would actually think he deserves it. There's some sort of death penalty for being
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incendiary politically. I just I mean, why would they stop like a truckers asking good questions?
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They they continue to up the ante against the guy and he's unstoppable. He continues to not lie down.
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And, you know, they want him to be a good dog and to lie down and he won't do it.
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Listen, thank you for calling. Really, really good talking to you, Vicki. All the best. I appreciate you
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weighing in with everything. Let's keep going. Steve is in New York. Hi, Steve. What are your
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thoughts on this whole thing, the debate, the candidates? Well, first, I want to say I'm from
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the Syracuse area, so I have a special thanks for you. And I was speaking to my son. My son just
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graduated high school and his his friend, she's going into pre-law. And I told her that she should
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check out your book and look at your career and say, you know, it doesn't matter what law school you go
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to as long as you you work hard. And that's right. You know, graduate at the top of it.
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Thank you for that. I love Syracuse. Every time I go back there, put on the John Denver brings up a
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tear. I love the neighborhoods there. They're just like a great place to raise a family cold and gray
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and snowy for sure. But it's kind of toughens you up. And then when you go to the rest of the country
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and you see them freak out about two flakes of snow, you have a good laugh and you think more of
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yourself. Right. Right. Well, you know, it's a little scary. I mean, you haven't been around
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the area in a long time, but basically on the radio, there's like a stabbing or a shooting like
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almost every night in Syracuse. And so the crime is just terrible up there. I mean, I don't live
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like I live out in the country on Route 20. So a little ways away. But it's just it's just pretty
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scary, you know, that. But it's happening all over. It goes, you know, the the caller that you
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had was talking about the independence. And I was thinking that, you know, I listen to Ben
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and I'm a big fan of him as well and Michael and all them. But I listen to you every every day also.
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But one of the things is they're talking about Trump winning the the primary. What's the path in
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the general election? What what's going to happen in Wisconsin and Georgia, in Pennsylvania and
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Arizona, Nevada, those states? And that's what really worries me. Yeah. You're not alone. Big
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Trump supporter, you know. And what I was going to say to you is that, you know, women are such a huge
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key to this. You know, in the moms, those those two women that you have, the it's a no, it's a hard
00:24:28.500
no. Yes. Carrie and Brit. Yeah. What what what's their thing they're called? The the organization,
00:24:37.800
the battle cry, the battle cry. Those those women are going to be so important because that's who we
00:24:45.220
need with with the trans in the children and, you know, the indoctrinating of children and all that,
00:24:51.160
the growth and homeschool and stuff like that. That's just huge.
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I know. And if Joe Biden is reelected or whoever winds, I mean, God only knows whether Biden can
00:25:01.740
make it. Harris, Newsom, what have you. We're going to get so much more of it. They're actively
00:25:07.240
working every day to open the door to more trans procedures for young ones, for more kink in our
00:25:14.580
K through 12 education system, for persecution of parents who object to it, for the firing of
00:25:20.760
anybody who doesn't go along with the madness. It's like most people are living their lives and
00:25:26.200
not paying active attention to the amount of incentives Joe Biden has put in the federal
00:25:30.140
government to schools. And you can go down the list workers for creating these kinds of programs
00:25:37.220
and rewarding these kinds of programs. And this guy, you know, Rachel Levine, who's out there trying
00:25:42.740
to praise clinic after clinic that wants to trans kids and get rid of the word women. That's all on
00:25:48.900
Joe Biden. That we're on a very dangerous path right now. So the GOP needs to choose the right
00:25:56.020
person. And then I get why people think it's Trump. He's extremely strong. He seems to have his pulse
00:26:04.780
on the like the finger of the electorate. Like he's he seems to actually see things in a way not
00:26:11.640
everybody does about what's coming down the pike. But he did lose in 2020. And even if you think he lost
00:26:18.480
because it's rigged, it's going to be rigged again. And so it's almost like whoever the Republican is,
00:26:23.220
if they're going to win, they have to win by an overwhelming landslide. And so you're really
00:26:27.640
asking not just whether Trump could could eke it out the way he did in 16. You're asking, could he
00:26:32.500
win in a landslide? Could which of these guys or gals could win in a landslide? Because that may be
00:26:38.160
what's required. It's scary, Steve. Well, you talk you talk about the vague and I know if you've heard
00:26:45.400
him talk about it, but he's talked about how he could win in a landslide because he's not as
00:26:51.800
divisive as Trump. Right. They don't have a built in opinion of him. And that's one of the reasons
00:26:56.480
he says, you know, I could win because of, you know, that fact that it's he doesn't have. I get
00:27:01.960
that so much. Right. But I listen to some of the I like to listen to the lefty media, too, just to see
00:27:07.500
what they're saying. And they're promoting the vague right now because they like a divided field.
00:27:12.660
A divided field is is great because that means Trump wins and they think they can beat Trump.
00:27:18.560
They do not want it consolidating into a two man race, you know, Trump versus somebody. So,
00:27:22.620
OK, great. They'll promote the vague for a little while. But you already hear the seeds being planted
00:27:27.940
far right. That's what I was hearing about the vague repeatedly today. Far right. The far right
00:27:32.340
candidate, because he said things like the climate change agenda is a hoax, which, by the way,
00:27:37.960
is not the same thing as saying climate change is a hoax. He's saying the agenda. And I think
00:27:42.180
even Michael Schellenberger would come on and agree with you, who used to work for Greenpeace.
00:27:46.280
In any event, I agree with the vague. So they'll you know, they by the time they're done with him
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is what I'm trying to say. He will not be an acceptable option that could win a landslide.
00:27:57.540
They I don't know who could be maybe Nikki Haley. I don't know. Probably no Republican. But it's
00:28:03.200
going to have to be somebody the only person who could potentially win over, you know, the really
00:28:07.700
moderate independence is somebody who would probably not be acceptable to the core base,
00:28:13.160
at least when Trump is still in the race. So it's just like the Republican Party's internal civil war
00:28:18.020
is hurting it. And, you know, in all honesty, it's probably going to cost it the next election.
00:28:24.920
Like if you had to put money on who's going to win, even with Joe Biden in the state he's in,
00:28:29.400
you'd have to put it on him, given the fracturing inside the GOP.
00:28:33.160
Uh, it's, it's dark. All right, Steve, thank you for calling. I'm going to get some other callers
00:28:38.560
in. Let's go to Jessica in New York. Hi, Jessica. Hey, Megan. I'm so glad to talk to you. Your show
00:28:45.820
is awesome. I try to listen most days, but I wanted to call in because I listened to your show. And
00:28:52.240
while I usually do agree with you on most things, um, your take on the debate, I had a few different
00:28:59.000
opinions. Um, but I love Trump voted for him twice, very enthusiastic, you know, supporter of
00:29:06.960
Trump, but I was disappointed that he didn't participate in the debate. And, um, it was,
00:29:14.540
I felt like after watching that there were some good options as Republican candidates. And there,
00:29:21.140
I felt like I was surprised by some of the candidates as well. I've always, I've never really
00:29:26.300
liked Nikki Haley. And there was just something about her. I just kind of, I don't know. I just
00:29:30.620
didn't really, wasn't ever enthralled by her, but I did like her after the debate. I liked how she
00:29:36.300
seemed like a fighter and she, you know, she explained things, um, in a way that made sense.
00:29:42.620
Like for example, the Ukraine, when her and Vivek were going back and forth about.
00:29:48.040
Yeah, because I tend to agree maybe with Vivek, but I'm not a big supporter of Ukraine. I never
00:29:55.640
really jumped on that ship when everyone's hanging their flags out and just throwing their support
00:30:00.360
behind them. Um, and just, you know, I always kind of questioned that. And so I, I really appreciate
00:30:06.700
how she explained it from her perspective, being in foreign policy, why we shouldn't abandon them.
00:30:14.260
You know, there's this, there's such a large group within the Republican party. That's more in the
00:30:18.340
Trump, Tucker, now Vivek field. I've got to be honest. I think Vivek is just glomming on. I don't
00:30:24.320
know that Vivek has any strong thoughts on foreign policy. I suspect he watches Tucker and says what
00:30:28.600
Tucker says. That's my suspicion. Sorry. Um, but I think he's sort of like, I think he's modeling
00:30:34.200
himself more after Tucker than he is after Trump. Uh, in any event, there's a lot, a large strain in
00:30:39.480
the Republican party that is over the Ukraine war. And I mean, I understand her. We've had her on
00:30:44.960
the show. I get her. I just don't know if it's, I don't know. I don't know if that's a winning
00:30:48.920
argument for her. Uh, but I hear you. She was good. I liked her. I didn't expect her to be so
00:30:53.660
present and vibrant last night. She, she fought her way in there. She talked about her military
00:30:58.160
husband, appreciated all that, but realistically it doesn't look good for Nikki. I'm going to take
00:31:03.720
some other calls, Jessica. Thank you. Thanks again for calling. Uh, let's go to, let's say
00:31:07.500
Carrie in Texas. Hi Carrie. What's on your thought on your mind? Hi Megan. Hi, how are
00:31:15.760
you? I'm great. Good. I could talk to you forever, but okay. So I called because I get
00:31:23.680
and your other caller touched on this a little bit. Uh, I think the one from New York. So
00:31:28.640
I get that a lot of people don't think that the election was stolen or manipulated and it's
00:31:37.500
I just don't understand how people can see the videos of the ballot stuffing and see
00:31:43.100
the girl in Georgia, send everybody home. She pulls out a stack. She scans the same things
00:31:48.400
like four or five times. And why are the Democrats so against voter ID if they are not cheating?
00:31:55.700
I just don't understand it. And true. The vote I think is in federal court today over 67, I think
00:32:02.300
67,000 ballots that were in Georgia that were, I don't know. I really just heard a little bit
00:32:08.260
about it, but I'm just like, I don't understand why everybody just throws off the whole cheating
00:32:13.320
because it's obvious that Joe Biden did not get 81 million votes. I don't care how many times.
00:32:18.640
Well, that's the problem is if you look at, you know, Georgia, they've gone over it time and time
00:32:23.060
again. And Brian Kemp has, you know, called for a comprehensive review over and over and over again.
00:32:27.300
And then a lot of those claims collapsed upon further scrutiny, you know, with the ballot
00:32:31.520
stuffing when, when you actually took a deeper dive into it, it turned out not to be true.
00:32:35.560
Rudy Giuliani is given testimony under oath now down there that some of the things he was saying
00:32:39.680
were not true and those don't get publicized as well. You know, to people like you who are living
00:32:45.700
your life, you're not spending your days going over the allegations of voter fraud. So you don't hear
00:32:50.840
the follow up about how this, this one fell apart and that one fell apart. That's not to say that
00:32:54.880
this was a fair election or that it was, you know, that it wasn't you can say rigged, but it was
00:33:00.420
certainly pushed in a way for the Democrat. That was grossly unfair. The real problem is they're
00:33:05.400
going to do it again. The stuff that they got away with, they're going to do again. They got away with
00:33:08.780
it. It's not illegal. You know, the Facebook money, the suppression of the bad news about Hunter,
00:33:14.300
the laptop, the suppression of bad news about Joe Biden. You know, look at what Chris Wallace did in
00:33:19.340
that debate with stuffing the Trump claims about the widow of the Moscow mayor paying the 3.5 million.
00:33:25.680
Let Joe Biden get away with saying it's false. It's false. It's false. Now we know it was 100%
00:33:29.560
like all these things where the media makes a big difference going to happen again, going to happen
00:33:34.060
again. And there's not really a great plan by the RNC or anybody else to change it, especially the mail
00:33:40.160
in the mail in ballots. Now it's just like, OK, let's do the mail in ballots, too. OK, well, they tend to be
00:33:45.600
better at that. But I hear you and I don't think there's a good answer right now. Thank you for
00:33:51.220
calling in. Let me get some other callers. Let's see. Keith in Indiana. Hi, Mike Pence's home state.
00:33:56.860
What are your thoughts? Yeah, your show's terrific. I'm glad I found it on SiriusXM.
00:34:02.220
What I wanted to discuss is how I keep hearing that Mike Pence did not have the power to do what
00:34:08.740
Trump was requesting. Maybe that's true. Maybe it isn't. I guess it's true now. But Congress actually did
00:34:14.740
something near the end of last year to clarify that issue. Why would they have done that if in
00:34:20.940
fact he did not have that power potentially? That's that's a good question that Trump has
00:34:26.740
been raising this. And I think the answer is they just wanted to make extra clear because they thought
00:34:30.500
there was some slight ambiguity in the law, but they did not believe for one second that that
00:34:35.360
ambiguity made it possible. He thought that there was a sliver of a chance that it did. Sometimes the
00:34:42.360
law does get pushed to the limits. So I don't think he was totally that is Trump out of his mind to at
00:34:48.080
least pursue it. And I keep hearing. I did not. I do not think Mike Pence had that power and I don't
00:34:54.260
think it was ambiguous at all. I don't think the revision of the law was necessary. And I do think
00:34:58.880
that, you know, on the GOP side, can you imagine? Can you imagine if Joe Biden lost to Trump this time
00:35:03.760
around and Kamala Harris refused to certify the vote when she was counting it and changed it and
00:35:09.920
made Democratic fake electors and gave the election to Joe Biden? It's a no. It's a hard no. So we have
00:35:17.040
to maintain our principles when it comes to these constitutional provisions that have long been
00:35:21.360
abided. It really was just Mike Pence's job to count. That was literally all he was supposed to do.
00:35:26.060
I think the founders thought that when this system was set up, that the vice president's supposed to
00:35:31.020
be there just to count numbers. I don't know about that. I wonder. It's I think they had a little
00:35:37.040
bit more faith in people over things like that and that maybe they could do things that needed to be
00:35:41.940
done. Well, you can have electors decide not to follow the will of the people that was built right
00:35:47.980
into the Constitution. But he was asking for something different. Trump Trump wanted Pence to
00:35:55.220
actually ignore the electors who were there and to go with a different set of electors that he was
00:35:59.400
submitting in any event. You know, it's he's still he's going to be prosecuted for all of that.
00:36:04.440
I don't think it was a crime. And it's been, you know, now written down that absolutely in no way,
00:36:10.320
shape or form are you allowed. He thank you for calling. Appreciate it. Let's go to Holly in Georgia.
00:36:15.360
Hi, Holly. What are your thoughts? I just have to say you were the first podcast that I'm listening to
00:36:21.200
ever. And I've been listening to you from the beginning. And now I listen to a lot of other
00:36:26.580
podcasts, too. But you're the best. Nice. Thank you. Well, I'm on board.
00:36:33.060
I had listened to the debate last night and then went to bed, didn't look at anything,
00:36:39.620
didn't listen to anything, and just thought about what happened. And I totally agree that
00:36:44.900
Tim Scott and Asa and Burgum are done. I just don't see how they move forward from here.
00:36:53.540
Um, on the other note of that, I did get my $20 gift card to Burgum.
00:37:01.440
So good for you. I've got a good book to read. Anyway, so Vivek stole the show. But it just
00:37:11.960
seemed like it was too much. But I think he's gonna he definitely made a name for himself. But
00:37:17.940
again, Nikki Haley, she I, I, I had cast her off as not being able to make it. She did a really good
00:37:26.780
job last night. And I was impressed. She stood her own. That's for sure.
00:37:33.000
Um, Pence, on the other hand. He talked a lot. He was combative. He had a lot more chutzpah than I've
00:37:41.080
ever seen him have. But I still don't think he's got what it takes. Can I say something? This is
00:37:46.500
like, maybe people find this a weird question, because I'm not exactly a flag flying feminist.
00:37:51.040
And I'm not into identity politics either. But I will tell you something. I watched the debate
00:37:56.100
with my husband and my three kids, including my daughter, who's 12. And I was really glad there
00:38:02.140
was a woman on the stage. I really was glad I was and I was glad she was so strong. She didn't give an
00:38:08.980
inch. She was aggressive. She was combative. I do think it's good for, you know, kids like my
00:38:15.100
daughter to see that and just sort of, you know, there's the old if you can see it, you can be it.
00:38:19.340
It's not that I'm in favor of affirmative action for women or anybody else. It's just,
00:38:23.040
it's great that Nikki Haley is in the race and fought hard to be in the race and came back against
00:38:29.400
all these guys who didn't want anything to do with her to make her arguments. You know, whether she wins
00:38:33.800
is a different story, but it's whatever. I enjoyed seeing her up there.
00:38:37.280
I 100% agree. I always like to see a strong woman. And there needs to be more of us out there who
00:38:44.900
will say what we think and not back down. Amen. Thank you so much for calling in. Thanks,
00:38:52.200
Holly, for being one of them. And thanks to all of our listeners and our viewers for spending the
00:38:56.400
extra time calling in for the show. Just really have that need to hear not just from pundits, but
00:39:01.520
from our people. And, you know, we're open minded to all these guys here on the Megan Kelly show.
00:39:06.900
We're going to call it like we see it. If we think they fall, we're right. Sometimes we're
00:39:10.140
maybe not so right sometimes, but it's fun to talk about it with all of you. It's really here.
00:39:14.900
It's fun to hear your points of view. Thank you for informing us. And don't forget,
00:39:18.900
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00:39:26.520
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