The Megyn Kelly Show - Debating and Discussing the GOP Debate, with Listeners and Viewers： Megyn Kelly Show Weekend Extra ｜ Ep. 615

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:12.160 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. I'm Megyn Kelly. And here's a little extra for you.

00:00:16.660 We decided to take some calls from our audience members who have strong thoughts about the debate

00:00:22.940 that happened on Fox News. And what better way to hear those thoughts than from the folks directly?

00:00:27.540 We're going to kick it off with Lane in Texas. Lane, thanks for calling. What are your thoughts

00:00:32.640 on how the debate went? Hi, Megyn. Two thoughts on Ron DeSantis. I'm a Florida guy. I'm just

00:00:38.080 traveling through Texas working. But I really wish when the Ukraine thing came up, I think people 1.00

00:00:44.780 would have sat back in their seats if he would have said, hey, these are my feelings right now.

00:00:50.000 I'm pretty sure I'm right. But until I get in that office and I get briefings that no one else on the

00:00:55.300 planet gets, I'm not 100% and I am open-minded. I think people would have sat up in their chair

00:01:02.940 and said, whoa, honesty. How about that? And the other thing is, well, maybe not. But the other

00:01:08.340 thing is, we've had a couple of years in Florida to get used to this guy. He never sleeps. He gets a

00:01:14.400 lot done. But he is really, he's hard to like. And he doesn't have time to make people like him. So

00:01:21.360 I kind of agree with you guys that he's not going to make it. Why is he hard to like?

00:01:28.340 He just doesn't have any sense of humor. He's straightforward. And he seems like if you

00:01:34.100 disagree with him, he really comes at you hard. Even though, you know, most people did agree with

00:01:41.440 his stance on Disney. You know, he got the bridge rebuilt through the hurricane in Fort Myers in three

00:01:48.560 days, so he could get supplies. But he's just, he's just there. He has no, no little, he's not

00:01:56.540 quick-witted. And he's just kind of, kind of a boring guy. You know, but the guy's a worker. He

00:02:01.900 gets everything done, but he's not going to be able to show the country that in time, I don't think.

00:02:08.420 Maybe, maybe just being the policy guy could have worked if there were not a Trump. But there is a

00:02:15.460 Trump. And so something extraordinary is going to be required for any of these guys, you know,

00:02:20.260 unless, God forbid, something terrible happens to Trump. And then the field goes back to the,

00:02:25.760 respectfully, again, the B team last night, they're not going to get it done. Something

00:02:30.480 extraordinary would have to happen. And it didn't last night, wasn't it? Lane, thank you for calling

00:02:36.100 in. Let's go to Anne in Arizona. Anne, hi, what are your thoughts on the debate?

00:02:40.820 You know, I just thought nothing they said up there changed my mind one moment. I have three

00:02:53.120 daughters. I, you know, I'm not really focused on women's issues, but they never even asked about

00:03:00.280 the whole girls in sports, the trans kids things. Right.

00:03:06.000 That kind of stuff really upsets me, like makes me stand in my chair and go, what the F

00:03:14.120 is going on in this country? But Lane, we had a question on UFOs. I mean, I just thought it was

00:03:20.560 so ridiculous. Right. Right. I have. I actually, all my daughters are swimmers. When the Leah Thompson

00:03:28.760 thing happened, I was like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I live in a city that's very

00:03:38.880 liberal, very liberal. Me and my conservative girlfriends, we have to huddle together to 0.99

00:03:45.100 discuss like issues of what do you think about this? What do you think about this? If we say

00:03:50.640 things to our liberal friends, they like are crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And I'm really, you know,

00:03:58.300 I have been a Trump supporter, not from day one, but I did vote for him twice. I actually have a

00:04:04.240 daughter who's like a huge Trump supporter. And I'm really worried about him being our candidate then

00:04:16.040 because I see the hate on the other side, the motivating hate. I mean, it's visceral. The Trump

00:04:27.360 derangement syndrome is crazy where I live. And I see it and I'm like, I wish he just wouldn't have

00:04:36.300 entered. You know, will I vote for him if he's our candidate? Yeah. If I get the chance not to vote

00:04:42.400 for him in the primary, I will. But Arizona is one of the last. So by the time it gets to us,

00:04:47.460 like, okay, I'll go vote, you know. Same. I mean, I've been living in New York and Connecticut and

00:04:54.080 our votes don't count. I mean, we all know those states are going blue. By the way, it's Ann. Sorry,

00:04:58.460 I called you Lane. That was our last caller. Keep going. And that's okay. That's okay. You know,

00:05:04.980 I live in Arizona. I'm actually a Texan. I live in Arizona. But I see the California migration

00:05:10.860 into Arizona, into Texas. And that scares the hell out of me, because those people aren't coming here 0.89

00:05:19.480 and going, oh, I love free Arizona and free Texas. Arizona is now a blue state, pretty much.

00:05:30.600 What do you think? I mean, here's the question, because I think Trump, Trump would say, Ann,

00:05:34.980 he would say, they're going to hate any Republican nominee and try to destroy them the way they are

00:05:42.580 me. I think you could definitely make that case on DeSantis. They hate him, for sure. Maybe Vivek,

00:05:49.940 who's upsetting them right now, or certainly will if he keeps talking the way he did last night.

00:05:55.460 But what do you, do you really, do you think he's wrong?

00:05:58.760 Um, um, somewhat, he, there is something particular about him that drives people insane.

00:06:13.500 Passed from day one. Like DeSantis, during the whole COVID thing, when he would come back at the

00:06:20.700 media, and he would actually, you know, like, they would ask him questions, and he would be like,

00:06:26.300 what are you talking about? We did this, this, this, and fire off, like, four, five facts. Why are

00:06:30.820 they wrong? I would, like, stand up and go, yes, somebody actually explained why that person is a 0.75

00:06:37.620 jerk asking that question. Whereas, like, Trump is just, oh, fake news, you're an idiot, whatever,

00:06:44.220 name-calling, whatever. You know, name-calling doesn't really bother me, but it does a lot of people.

00:06:48.940 And I actually like Vivek. I think he's super smart. I think he comes at the questions

00:06:57.380 directly, sort of like, um, DeSantis used to, but he's really young. And like, some of his policy

00:07:06.220 positions, I think are a little too, like, extreme for me. Like, let's just ban everything and start

00:07:11.520 over. Well, that's not going to work. We need to work with some reform to get some of these people out. 0.80

00:07:17.660 I don't know what that's going to look like, but, you know, I just don't want to be like,

00:07:22.740 oh, let's ban the FBI. Well, you know, there is a purpose for the FBI.

00:07:26.500 Yes, there is. Yeah. And I know it's some of the stuff that just sounds good. It sounds good

00:07:31.880 to a faction of the Republican base. But realistically, do we want to get rid of the

00:07:35.520 group that's searching out, you know, terrorists from other countries who are here laying in wait,

00:07:40.860 trying to hurt us again? I don't know. Down to the studs is one thing, but don't keep the studs

00:07:46.140 at least and rebuild. And like child trafficking, I'm a huge proponent of what's going on with child

00:07:53.140 trafficking. I'm like, I don't understand why the Democrats

00:07:56.500 are okay with open borders when it causes women to be raped and children to be raped all through

00:08:05.740 Mexico on their way here. And then when they get here, we don't even check who's brought them across. 1.00

00:08:12.080 How are the Democrats even okay with that? And then and then I watch the Republicans answer stuff.

00:08:19.240 And I'm like, that's your answer. I'm like, you can't be more direct on that. Like you can't come

00:08:24.100 at that, you know, even if they're wrong, it would be so nice to see them take a risk. That's what I

00:08:30.200 like about Vivek is just right. He'll take a risk even if he's wrong. He's bold about it. And I think

00:08:36.780 he would he would admit I was wrong or my my my thinking change. And, you know, like our first

00:08:41.440 guest was saying, our first caller, I think the party would forgive him for that evolution. But

00:08:46.840 right now you can tell when they're lying and they're doing a politician thing. And it's just

00:08:51.060 I mean, if we still had the old funny Saturday Night Live, couldn't they be having a field day on

00:08:57.500 what we saw on Wednesday night with like the pen serious with the furrowed brow and the long

00:09:04.200 pauses and the repeated references to his faith and the vague with like the huge toothy smile and

00:09:11.560 the making fun of everybody finger in the air and you come here and hug me big guy. Like there's just

00:09:17.920 so much such a funny cast of characters. But, you know, authenticity probably are defined. Listen,

00:09:23.280 thank you for calling in. Such a pleasure talking to you. Let's keep going. Linda in California is on

00:09:28.020 the line. Hi, Linda. What are your thoughts on the debate? Hi, Megan. Well, first, I want to

00:09:34.040 say thank you for standing up for girls sports. I am retired military, a nurse, I feel like

00:09:40.800 they've missed the opportunity to address us independence. And I feel we're the ones that

00:09:46.980 are going to be deciding this election. It's not the people who are going to vote on, they're going

00:09:51.060 to vote for Trump. And it's not the people in the Biden. It's going to be us in the middle and how

00:09:56.680 they choose to move us over to their side. And I think last night, they all missed it.

00:10:03.300 I was liberal, pretty liberal, independent, and now I'm pushing more. They're pushing me over to

00:10:10.080 more conservative. I was I am in San Diego, but I moved to Nevada. I'm one of those people that have

00:10:16.540 moved over to a different state. But I think everyone should be thinking, what about the

00:10:23.340 independents? How are we going to get them to see our side? And I feel like I'm totally ignored by both 1.00

00:10:29.920 parties. Hmm. It's so hard. You know, the Republican Party has been having this debate

00:10:34.500 for many years. And I think of somebody like Ann Coulter, who's been sounding the alarm saying the

00:10:39.040 answer is not to go more moderate for the love of God. Pick a true conservative rally, the conservative

00:10:45.080 base. They will turn out in droves. That's how you win elections. She did not like McCain, for example.

00:10:50.460 She did not like Romney. She she did like Trump because she's pretty much a single issue voter on

00:10:55.700 immigration. And this time around, she's pushing DeSantis very hard and can't stand Trump. But

00:11:00.340 that they've been debating within themselves for years about do you sort of excite the base or do

00:11:07.660 you play more for the general and think about independents like you, Linda? And I don't know that

00:11:12.680 they've figured it out. Because I think really, when we look at it, who's going to tip the scale?

00:11:20.180 It's going to be me. It's going to be the people like me. And that's what they need to be focusing

00:11:25.860 on. It's not going to be the strict Republicans and the strict Democrats. You know, what can make

00:11:31.820 me choose their side? I don't like either one of them, to be honest. I was very open to hearing all

00:11:38.100 the different Republican candidates last night. But you know, there were a lot of questions that they

00:11:43.260 didn't ask that I wanted to hear. You know, I didn't want to hear about UFOs. I did want to hear about

00:11:48.820 I'm a nurse practitioner. I do care about the children in this country, and what they're doing

00:11:54.860 to them. I do care about the schools. That was very, the education part of this was very small.

00:12:02.220 But you know, and the military, I don't know if we really even talked about that in any detail.

00:12:07.540 You know, that's a good point. That is a good point. Because honestly, like having having worked

00:12:12.400 at Fox, I saw them doing like tipping the hat to the patriotism with the national anthem. And then the

00:12:17.200 at the end, a question about the waning patriotism. How about a question on the military and the

00:12:22.620 recruiting problems? How about like, instead of like the showiness of like, oh, we love America,

00:12:26.260 we're Fox, we're, you know, we're paying homage, actually ask a substantive question,

00:12:29.960 like get to something that matters to military men and women like yourself.

00:12:35.300 It's very sad. I have a son in the military still too. And the, you know, recruitment, you know,

00:12:40.220 what are we going to do? What are the risks? You know, I did like the questions about China

00:12:44.600 and Russia, but you know, they didn't even really get to touch on it so much. I didn't get to hear

00:12:49.860 from each person what they're, you know, I think they were so busy fighting each other and tried to

00:12:54.860 upstage each other in a way that I didn't get to hear the meat and potatoes of what they each stand

00:12:59.860 for, you know, and I listen to you all the time. You know, I feel like I'm the Joe Plummer from years

00:13:06.160 ago when they look at him, you know, I'm the person that everyone's ignoring. And there's so many of us,

00:13:12.980 there's a lot of us out here and I hope that they, at the next debate, they start asking these

00:13:19.160 questions or at least giving them more time, each individual. Well, here's the good thing.

00:13:24.040 They're probably going to have, I think, 10, maybe 11 debates if they do it the way they did it last

00:13:29.740 time. So you will get these issues addressed eventually. Thank you for your service and thank

00:13:34.080 you for calling. Let's keep going. Jeff in Illinois. Hi, Jeff. What are your thoughts?

00:13:39.240 Hi, Megan. Absolutely love your show. So my thought is that many people have said that

00:13:46.280 with the debates last night that DeSantis and Ramaswamy did not hit a home run. They needed

00:13:53.100 to close the gap and they only hit a single. What would your definition be of a home run? Because

00:13:58.820 I thought they both did well. I'll give you an example. If I were Ron DeSantis, who's been

00:14:04.420 as solid as they come on the issue we were just discussing, the transing of young kids,

00:14:11.260 I would have said, you know, something to the effect of, I think one of the problems we're

00:14:15.760 having in this country is we're losing our tether on reality. We're actually transitioning little

00:14:20.460 boys into a fake version of a little girl. And that man at the end of the stage, Asa Hutchinson,

00:14:25.380 who has no business being up here, he has zero shot in this race, who's taking time from valuable

00:14:30.920 candidates who actually do have a shot is part of the problem. Let me give you an example of what

00:14:35.840 he did. And boom, it doesn't even it's not because Asa Hutchinson is a threat. It's to show us who you

00:14:42.240 are, what you stand for and that you're a fighter and you can put our concerns into words in a way

00:14:47.580 that will excite us and resonate with us. DeSantis didn't do it. He can do it, but he didn't do it.

00:14:54.180 And then he had Vivek, who kind of tried to do it. I thought his best answer was on the climate

00:15:00.700 change. I know that, you know, some people found it controversial, but when he started going off

00:15:04.320 on the climate change, I thought it was great on education. I thought it was really good.

00:15:08.960 He probably came the closest and the others really just kept interjecting to snipe at one another,

00:15:13.820 which is fine. You can try to take somebody out, but like you've got to quickly pivot it to

00:15:17.420 something that's really going to make me say, yes, as the kids would say, yes, queen, you know,

00:15:22.140 that that's what I would say. What do you think, Jeff? I thought they all did well. I thought

00:15:29.160 DeSantis did well. There's all this talk about him being so stiff. He's a military man. I love

00:15:35.020 the military people. He's not a slobbering slouch that he's a military guy. He's strong in his

00:15:41.000 convictions and I like him and he's done well in Florida. And I mean, just look at his track record.

00:15:46.560 So he's well-spoken, he's respected, kind of the opposite of what I think the Republicans are going

00:15:53.420 against. And all of this, all of these issues, I just don't understand. Just even from a neutral

00:15:59.640 standpoint, Southern borders wide open, fentanyl, people being raped. I just don't understand it.

00:16:05.780 None of it makes sense. All these issues today, you know, the energy, we need to bring energy back

00:16:13.340 to be self-sufficient like we had with Trump. It just doesn't make any sense.

00:16:18.220 So what does that mean to you? Who do you support right now?

00:16:23.640 It's so hard because there were so many good people last night and I think it'll get whittled

00:16:27.280 down in time. I like DeSantis. Vivek has his moments. I like what he has to say. Maybe he's too

00:16:35.940 young and he needs a little more seasoning, but I love his ideas. I like Tim Scott. There's so many

00:16:43.740 that have so, so many great ideas. And when you compare all those candidates to what we have

00:16:49.240 presently and the DOJ and what's happening at all, and it's like, is this, it's insane what's

00:16:55.680 happening. There's no common sense. The law abiding taxpaying citizen seems to get penalized

00:17:01.420 and all of them. I would take any of them over what we have now, but I kind of lean towards

00:17:07.600 DeSantis, but all of them have great ideas. Well, it's good for the RNC to have 10, 11 debates.

00:17:14.500 Keep putting them out there. Keep exposing the electorate to their ideas that, you know,

00:17:19.260 from that perspective, it's an advantage to have to be in the non-incumbent position,

00:17:24.020 though historically it's very hard to convince the country to fire an incumbent, which is what they're

00:17:30.220 asking. Thank you for calling, Jeff. We appreciate it. And thanks for listening. Let's go to Vicki

00:17:34.480 in Michigan. Hi, Vicki. What are your thoughts? Hi, Megan. I have three things that you spoke about.

00:17:44.640 One, did I watch Fox News debates? No. I quit watching Fox News during the COVID crash.

00:17:53.780 When they start pushing stuff, I said, all right, this. I knew I would see the highlights,

00:18:02.100 you know, on social media, on the news. I'm not going to waste my time. Trump's the front runner.

00:18:09.520 He's got my total support. He did 2016, 2020, and he still does. So I watch Tucker.

00:18:18.780 Yeah, keep going. Keep going. Sorry. I watched Tucker and Trump and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a

00:18:27.920 sit down at the table and have a conversation. And so that's what I did.

00:18:35.340 The Trump stuff was hilarious. He made me laugh. Yeah.

00:18:38.720 Oh, it was. Wasn't it?

00:18:39.980 It was. It was hilarious. I loved when he talked about Chris Wallace, when he talked about

00:18:46.320 I know. Oh, my God. I love when he talked about Joe Biden on the beach. It's like Trump.

00:18:53.680 And the video of the skinny legs.

00:18:57.000 I know. It's like, oh, please. So, but, you know, I'm one of the highlights that I did see today

00:19:04.600 on Fox. I was extremely disappointed. This big sort of democracy across the back,

00:19:13.180 the backstage. And not one single American flag. What's with that?

00:19:19.640 It's so unlike them.

00:19:21.280 But America, you know, it's about America, our president. Not one single flag was up there.

00:19:27.520 Hmm. I didn't know that. Yeah, I did notice you got you got somebody like the vague who

00:19:31.280 now suddenly is wearing the American flag pin. He never was wearing an American flag pin.

00:19:35.160 I like that. I don't like it's like, come on, if you don't wear it normally. Right.

00:19:39.740 Don't wear it now. I guess. OK, now you're running for president. But please, like if you

00:19:44.180 are that patriotic, I know lots of people who wear the American flag pin who are not running

00:19:47.680 for president and they tend to be ex-military. They're they love the country, but it's

00:19:52.060 whatever. They're everybody. I don't like it when people use it.

00:19:54.680 Exactly. I have the American flag flying in my front yard, you know, but it's not because

00:20:03.000 I'm a certain political party. It's my country, you know. Yeah. And yeah, don't be something

00:20:09.100 you're not just because you're running for a position.

00:20:11.200 Yes. That's one thing I like about Chris Christie. I will say, you know, he's authentic. You know,

00:20:17.520 he's sort of an authentically a prick, but he is authentic about it. Like he's like, this

00:20:21.360 is what I stand for. I'm pissed off. I can't stand Trump. I don't like what's happened to

00:20:25.060 my party. And I'm just going to say it like I don't I don't detect any false notes from

00:20:29.240 the guy. Exactly. Exactly. And you're right. He's a prick. So in regards to you, you had

00:20:36.560 said on your program earlier today, you know, the Vicks had stated, you know, Trump's been

00:20:41.920 like the best president ever. Why is he running? Yeah, I have a thought. And it goes into another

00:20:51.560 topic that I was ready to talk about, because I didn't think you were going to. And you did at the

00:20:58.760 end. I think the Vick is running for a just in case, just in case Trump is indicted, you know, is

00:21:09.560 charged with something. He's convicted in case. Right. Just in case. And I pray to God every night. And I

00:21:19.480 ask your viewers to the protection of President Trump and his family that an assassination attempt

00:21:26.000 is nothing. That gave me a chill. I know. I mean, that's that. I mean, I just can't even imagine the

00:21:34.920 chaos that would ensue. God forbid that happened. He's very well protected, thankfully, as he should

00:21:39.660 be, as he needs to be. But do you get the sense that there are some who would root for it? There are

00:21:45.080 some who would actually think he deserves it. There's some sort of death penalty for being

00:21:48.840 incendiary politically. I just I mean, why would they stop like a truckers asking good questions?

00:21:55.160 They they continue to up the ante against the guy and he's unstoppable. He continues to not lie down.

00:22:02.440 And, you know, they want him to be a good dog and to lie down and he won't do it.

00:22:08.800 Listen, thank you for calling. Really, really good talking to you, Vicki. All the best. I appreciate you

00:22:12.380 weighing in with everything. Let's keep going. Steve is in New York. Hi, Steve. What are your

00:22:17.540 thoughts on this whole thing, the debate, the candidates? Well, first, I want to say I'm from

00:22:24.100 the Syracuse area, so I have a special thanks for you. And I was speaking to my son. My son just

00:22:31.140 graduated high school and his his friend, she's going into pre-law. And I told her that she should

00:22:38.600 check out your book and look at your career and say, you know, it doesn't matter what law school you go

00:22:44.340 to as long as you you work hard. And that's right. You know, graduate at the top of it.

00:22:49.220 Thank you for that. I love Syracuse. Every time I go back there, put on the John Denver brings up a

00:22:55.820 tear. I love the neighborhoods there. They're just like a great place to raise a family cold and gray 1.00

00:23:01.380 and snowy for sure. But it's kind of toughens you up. And then when you go to the rest of the country

00:23:05.960 and you see them freak out about two flakes of snow, you have a good laugh and you think more of

00:23:10.540 yourself. Right. Right. Well, you know, it's a little scary. I mean, you haven't been around

00:23:15.400 the area in a long time, but basically on the radio, there's like a stabbing or a shooting like

00:23:22.120 almost every night in Syracuse. And so the crime is just terrible up there. I mean, I don't live

00:23:30.340 like I live out in the country on Route 20. So a little ways away. But it's just it's just pretty

00:23:35.960 scary, you know, that. But it's happening all over. It goes, you know, the the caller that you

00:23:42.400 had was talking about the independence. And I was thinking that, you know, I listen to Ben

00:23:47.840 and I'm a big fan of him as well and Michael and all them. But I listen to you every every day also.

00:23:54.040 But one of the things is they're talking about Trump winning the the primary. What's the path in

00:24:03.140 the general election? What what's going to happen in Wisconsin and Georgia, in Pennsylvania and

00:24:08.740 Arizona, Nevada, those states? And that's what really worries me. Yeah. You're not alone. Big

00:24:15.460 Trump supporter, you know. And what I was going to say to you is that, you know, women are such a huge

00:24:22.200 key to this. You know, in the moms, those those two women that you have, the it's a no, it's a hard

00:24:28.500 no. Yes. Carrie and Brit. Yeah. What what what's their thing they're called? The the organization,

00:24:37.800 the battle cry, the battle cry. Those those women are going to be so important because that's who we 0.85

00:24:45.220 need with with the trans in the children and, you know, the indoctrinating of children and all that, 0.98

00:24:51.160 the growth and homeschool and stuff like that. That's just huge.

00:24:54.720 I know. And if Joe Biden is reelected or whoever winds, I mean, God only knows whether Biden can

00:25:01.740 make it. Harris, Newsom, what have you. We're going to get so much more of it. They're actively

00:25:07.240 working every day to open the door to more trans procedures for young ones, for more kink in our 0.99

00:25:14.580 K through 12 education system, for persecution of parents who object to it, for the firing of

00:25:20.760 anybody who doesn't go along with the madness. It's like most people are living their lives and

00:25:26.200 not paying active attention to the amount of incentives Joe Biden has put in the federal

00:25:30.140 government to schools. And you can go down the list workers for creating these kinds of programs

00:25:37.220 and rewarding these kinds of programs. And this guy, you know, Rachel Levine, who's out there trying

00:25:42.740 to praise clinic after clinic that wants to trans kids and get rid of the word women. That's all on 0.94

00:25:48.900 Joe Biden. That we're on a very dangerous path right now. So the GOP needs to choose the right

00:25:56.020 person. And then I get why people think it's Trump. He's extremely strong. He seems to have his pulse

00:26:04.780 on the like the finger of the electorate. Like he's he seems to actually see things in a way not

00:26:11.640 everybody does about what's coming down the pike. But he did lose in 2020. And even if you think he lost

00:26:18.480 because it's rigged, it's going to be rigged again. And so it's almost like whoever the Republican is,

00:26:23.220 if they're going to win, they have to win by an overwhelming landslide. And so you're really

00:26:27.640 asking not just whether Trump could could eke it out the way he did in 16. You're asking, could he

00:26:32.500 win in a landslide? Could which of these guys or gals could win in a landslide? Because that may be 1.00

00:26:38.160 what's required. It's scary, Steve. Well, you talk you talk about the vague and I know if you've heard

00:26:45.400 him talk about it, but he's talked about how he could win in a landslide because he's not as

00:26:51.800 divisive as Trump. Right. They don't have a built in opinion of him. And that's one of the reasons

00:26:56.480 he says, you know, I could win because of, you know, that fact that it's he doesn't have. I get

00:27:01.960 that so much. Right. But I listen to some of the I like to listen to the lefty media, too, just to see

00:27:07.500 what they're saying. And they're promoting the vague right now because they like a divided field.

00:27:12.660 A divided field is is great because that means Trump wins and they think they can beat Trump.

00:27:18.560 They do not want it consolidating into a two man race, you know, Trump versus somebody. So,

00:27:22.620 OK, great. They'll promote the vague for a little while. But you already hear the seeds being planted

00:27:27.940 far right. That's what I was hearing about the vague repeatedly today. Far right. The far right

00:27:32.340 candidate, because he said things like the climate change agenda is a hoax, which, by the way,

00:27:37.960 is not the same thing as saying climate change is a hoax. He's saying the agenda. And I think

00:27:42.180 even Michael Schellenberger would come on and agree with you, who used to work for Greenpeace.

00:27:46.280 In any event, I agree with the vague. So they'll you know, they by the time they're done with him

00:27:52.340 is what I'm trying to say. He will not be an acceptable option that could win a landslide.

00:27:57.540 They I don't know who could be maybe Nikki Haley. I don't know. Probably no Republican. But it's

00:28:03.200 going to have to be somebody the only person who could potentially win over, you know, the really

00:28:07.700 moderate independence is somebody who would probably not be acceptable to the core base,

00:28:13.160 at least when Trump is still in the race. So it's just like the Republican Party's internal civil war

00:28:18.020 is hurting it. And, you know, in all honesty, it's probably going to cost it the next election.

00:28:24.920 Like if you had to put money on who's going to win, even with Joe Biden in the state he's in,

00:28:29.400 you'd have to put it on him, given the fracturing inside the GOP.

00:28:33.160 Uh, it's, it's dark. All right, Steve, thank you for calling. I'm going to get some other callers

00:28:38.560 in. Let's go to Jessica in New York. Hi, Jessica. Hey, Megan. I'm so glad to talk to you. Your show

00:28:45.820 is awesome. I try to listen most days, but I wanted to call in because I listened to your show. And

00:28:52.240 while I usually do agree with you on most things, um, your take on the debate, I had a few different

00:28:59.000 opinions. Um, but I love Trump voted for him twice, very enthusiastic, you know, supporter of

00:29:06.960 Trump, but I was disappointed that he didn't participate in the debate. And, um, it was,

00:29:14.540 I felt like after watching that there were some good options as Republican candidates. And there,

00:29:21.140 I felt like I was surprised by some of the candidates as well. I've always, I've never really

00:29:26.300 liked Nikki Haley. And there was just something about her. I just kind of, I don't know. I just

00:29:30.620 didn't really, wasn't ever enthralled by her, but I did like her after the debate. I liked how she

00:29:36.300 seemed like a fighter and she, you know, she explained things, um, in a way that made sense.

00:29:42.620 Like for example, the Ukraine, when her and Vivek were going back and forth about.

00:29:47.260 It was a good moment for her.

00:29:48.040 Yeah, because I tend to agree maybe with Vivek, but I'm not a big supporter of Ukraine. I never

00:29:55.640 really jumped on that ship when everyone's hanging their flags out and just throwing their support

00:30:00.360 behind them. Um, and just, you know, I always kind of questioned that. And so I, I really appreciate

00:30:06.700 how she explained it from her perspective, being in foreign policy, why we shouldn't abandon them.

00:30:12.240 And so continue to support them.

00:30:14.260 You know, there's this, there's such a large group within the Republican party. That's more in the

00:30:18.340 Trump, Tucker, now Vivek field. I've got to be honest. I think Vivek is just glomming on. I don't

00:30:24.320 know that Vivek has any strong thoughts on foreign policy. I suspect he watches Tucker and says what

00:30:28.600 Tucker says. That's my suspicion. Sorry. Um, but I think he's sort of like, I think he's modeling

00:30:34.200 himself more after Tucker than he is after Trump. Uh, in any event, there's a lot, a large strain in

00:30:39.480 the Republican party that is over the Ukraine war. And I mean, I understand her. We've had her on

00:30:44.960 the show. I get her. I just don't know if it's, I don't know. I don't know if that's a winning

00:30:48.920 argument for her. Uh, but I hear you. She was good. I liked her. I didn't expect her to be so

00:30:53.660 present and vibrant last night. She, she fought her way in there. She talked about her military

00:30:58.160 husband, appreciated all that, but realistically it doesn't look good for Nikki. I'm going to take

00:31:03.720 some other calls, Jessica. Thank you. Thanks again for calling. Uh, let's go to, let's say

00:31:07.500 Carrie in Texas. Hi Carrie. What's on your thought on your mind? Hi Megan. Hi, how are

00:31:15.760 you? I'm great. Good. I could talk to you forever, but okay. So I called because I get

00:31:23.680 and your other caller touched on this a little bit. Uh, I think the one from New York. So

00:31:28.640 I get that a lot of people don't think that the election was stolen or manipulated and it's

00:31:37.500 I just don't understand how people can see the videos of the ballot stuffing and see

00:31:43.100 the girl in Georgia, send everybody home. She pulls out a stack. She scans the same things

00:31:48.400 like four or five times. And why are the Democrats so against voter ID if they are not cheating?

00:31:55.700 I just don't understand it. And true. The vote I think is in federal court today over 67, I think

00:32:02.300 67,000 ballots that were in Georgia that were, I don't know. I really just heard a little bit

00:32:08.260 about it, but I'm just like, I don't understand why everybody just throws off the whole cheating

00:32:13.320 because it's obvious that Joe Biden did not get 81 million votes. I don't care how many times.

00:32:18.640 Well, that's the problem is if you look at, you know, Georgia, they've gone over it time and time

00:32:23.060 again. And Brian Kemp has, you know, called for a comprehensive review over and over and over again.

00:32:27.300 And then a lot of those claims collapsed upon further scrutiny, you know, with the ballot

00:32:31.520 stuffing when, when you actually took a deeper dive into it, it turned out not to be true.

00:32:35.560 Rudy Giuliani is given testimony under oath now down there that some of the things he was saying

00:32:39.680 were not true and those don't get publicized as well. You know, to people like you who are living

00:32:45.700 your life, you're not spending your days going over the allegations of voter fraud. So you don't hear

00:32:50.840 the follow up about how this, this one fell apart and that one fell apart. That's not to say that

00:32:54.880 this was a fair election or that it was, you know, that it wasn't you can say rigged, but it was

00:33:00.420 certainly pushed in a way for the Democrat. That was grossly unfair. The real problem is they're

00:33:05.400 going to do it again. The stuff that they got away with, they're going to do again. They got away with

00:33:08.780 it. It's not illegal. You know, the Facebook money, the suppression of the bad news about Hunter,

00:33:14.300 the laptop, the suppression of bad news about Joe Biden. You know, look at what Chris Wallace did in

00:33:19.340 that debate with stuffing the Trump claims about the widow of the Moscow mayor paying the 3.5 million.

00:33:25.680 Let Joe Biden get away with saying it's false. It's false. It's false. Now we know it was 100%

00:33:29.560 like all these things where the media makes a big difference going to happen again, going to happen

00:33:34.060 again. And there's not really a great plan by the RNC or anybody else to change it, especially the mail

00:33:40.160 in the mail in ballots. Now it's just like, OK, let's do the mail in ballots, too. OK, well, they tend to be

00:33:45.600 better at that. But I hear you and I don't think there's a good answer right now. Thank you for

00:33:51.220 calling in. Let me get some other callers. Let's see. Keith in Indiana. Hi, Mike Pence's home state.

00:33:56.860 What are your thoughts? Yeah, your show's terrific. I'm glad I found it on SiriusXM.

00:34:02.220 What I wanted to discuss is how I keep hearing that Mike Pence did not have the power to do what

00:34:08.740 Trump was requesting. Maybe that's true. Maybe it isn't. I guess it's true now. But Congress actually did

00:34:14.740 something near the end of last year to clarify that issue. Why would they have done that if in

00:34:20.940 fact he did not have that power potentially? That's that's a good question that Trump has

00:34:26.740 been raising this. And I think the answer is they just wanted to make extra clear because they thought

00:34:30.500 there was some slight ambiguity in the law, but they did not believe for one second that that

00:34:35.360 ambiguity made it possible. He thought that there was a sliver of a chance that it did. Sometimes the

00:34:42.360 law does get pushed to the limits. So I don't think he was totally that is Trump out of his mind to at

00:34:48.080 least pursue it. And I keep hearing. I did not. I do not think Mike Pence had that power and I don't

00:34:54.260 think it was ambiguous at all. I don't think the revision of the law was necessary. And I do think

00:34:58.880 that, you know, on the GOP side, can you imagine? Can you imagine if Joe Biden lost to Trump this time

00:35:03.760 around and Kamala Harris refused to certify the vote when she was counting it and changed it and 0.99

00:35:09.920 made Democratic fake electors and gave the election to Joe Biden? It's a no. It's a hard no. So we have

00:35:17.040 to maintain our principles when it comes to these constitutional provisions that have long been

00:35:21.360 abided. It really was just Mike Pence's job to count. That was literally all he was supposed to do.

00:35:26.060 I think the founders thought that when this system was set up, that the vice president's supposed to

00:35:31.020 be there just to count numbers. I don't know about that. I wonder. It's I think they had a little

00:35:37.040 bit more faith in people over things like that and that maybe they could do things that needed to be

00:35:41.940 done. Well, you can have electors decide not to follow the will of the people that was built right

00:35:47.980 into the Constitution. But he was asking for something different. Trump Trump wanted Pence to

00:35:55.220 actually ignore the electors who were there and to go with a different set of electors that he was

00:35:59.400 submitting in any event. You know, it's he's still he's going to be prosecuted for all of that.

00:36:04.440 I don't think it was a crime. And it's been, you know, now written down that absolutely in no way,

00:36:10.320 shape or form are you allowed. He thank you for calling. Appreciate it. Let's go to Holly in Georgia.

00:36:15.360 Hi, Holly. What are your thoughts? I just have to say you were the first podcast that I'm listening to

00:36:21.200 ever. And I've been listening to you from the beginning. And now I listen to a lot of other

00:36:26.580 podcasts, too. But you're the best. Nice. Thank you. Well, I'm on board.

00:36:33.060 I had listened to the debate last night and then went to bed, didn't look at anything,

00:36:39.620 didn't listen to anything, and just thought about what happened. And I totally agree that

00:36:44.900 Tim Scott and Asa and Burgum are done. I just don't see how they move forward from here.

00:36:53.540 Um, on the other note of that, I did get my $20 gift card to Burgum.

00:37:01.440 So good for you. I've got a good book to read. Anyway, so Vivek stole the show. But it just

00:37:11.960 seemed like it was too much. But I think he's gonna he definitely made a name for himself. But

00:37:17.940 again, Nikki Haley, she I, I, I had cast her off as not being able to make it. She did a really good

00:37:26.780 job last night. And I was impressed. She stood her own. That's for sure.

00:37:33.000 Um, Pence, on the other hand. He talked a lot. He was combative. He had a lot more chutzpah than I've

00:37:41.080 ever seen him have. But I still don't think he's got what it takes. Can I say something? This is

00:37:46.500 like, maybe people find this a weird question, because I'm not exactly a flag flying feminist.

00:37:51.040 And I'm not into identity politics either. But I will tell you something. I watched the debate

00:37:56.100 with my husband and my three kids, including my daughter, who's 12. And I was really glad there

00:38:02.140 was a woman on the stage. I really was glad I was and I was glad she was so strong. She didn't give an

00:38:08.980 inch. She was aggressive. She was combative. I do think it's good for, you know, kids like my

00:38:15.100 daughter to see that and just sort of, you know, there's the old if you can see it, you can be it.

00:38:19.340 It's not that I'm in favor of affirmative action for women or anybody else. It's just,

00:38:23.040 it's great that Nikki Haley is in the race and fought hard to be in the race and came back against

00:38:29.400 all these guys who didn't want anything to do with her to make her arguments. You know, whether she wins

00:38:33.800 is a different story, but it's whatever. I enjoyed seeing her up there.

00:38:37.280 I 100% agree. I always like to see a strong woman. And there needs to be more of us out there who

00:38:44.900 will say what we think and not back down. Amen. Thank you so much for calling in. Thanks,

00:38:52.200 Holly, for being one of them. And thanks to all of our listeners and our viewers for spending the

00:38:56.400 extra time calling in for the show. Just really have that need to hear not just from pundits, but

00:39:01.520 from our people. And, you know, we're open minded to all these guys here on the Megan Kelly show.

00:39:06.900 We're going to call it like we see it. If we think they fall, we're right. Sometimes we're

00:39:10.140 maybe not so right sometimes, but it's fun to talk about it with all of you. It's really here.

00:39:14.900 It's fun to hear your points of view. Thank you for informing us. And don't forget,

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The Megyn Kelly Show - August 26, 2023

Debating and Discussing the GOP Debate, with Listeners and Viewers： Megyn Kelly Show Weekend Extra ｜ Ep. 615

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