Deep Dive： How Big Food Companies Target Americans and Young People with Unhealthy Products, with Vani Hari and Grace Price ｜ Ep. 908
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The Food Babe, Vani Hari, and Grace Price, an 18-year-old who made the documentary Cancer: A Foodborne Illness, join me to talk about the dangers of food coloring and artificial food dyes.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. I'm Megyn Kelly.
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Last week, I watched the entire four-hour American Health and Nutrition Roundtable that was hosted by Senator Ron Johnson.
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It was fascinating. It was on the heels of our having Casey Means on this show, Dr. Casey Means,
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and discussing her book, Good Energy, which is a must-read. All of this is a collective siren call
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that we desperately need to change the foods we consume. There was a massive rally to this effect
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the other day in Washington, talking about how we need to resist the push of poison on us and our
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children. It had many points, but this was just one of them, including RFKJ and others. And two people
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who have been outspoken on this issue for a while, including at that Senate Roundtable,
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are here with me today. Vani Hari is known online as the food babe and has built a big following,
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holding big food companies accountable for the ingredients they place in their products.
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And Grace Price is an 18-year-old who made the documentary Cancer, a food-borne illness,
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who caught my eye as I watched that whole four-hour hearing.
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Welcome to the show, Vani and Grace. Great to have you.
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You bet. All right, Vani, let me start with you. So you were the one, our audience may remember this
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because we played the clip actually a couple times, holding up the Froot Loops and showing how in the
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UK they don't have a bunch of colors in them, but in the United States they do. And you did this with
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French fries. You did this with a bunch of food products showing it's so easy. You're not asking
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these manufacturers of food to do something radical. You just want us to be treated the way
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the Europeans are treated when it comes to our health and our food coloring, et cetera. Can you
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Yeah, absolutely. So right now, American food companies are using toxic ingredients that are
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either banned or regulated differently in the same exact products that they serve American citizens.
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So for example, McDonald's French fries has 11 ingredients here in the United States. Whereas
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in other countries, they are only using three ingredients and salt is optional. Then you've got
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things like Skittles, which uses 10 different artificial food dyes here in the United States
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and the ingredient titanium dioxide that's banned in Europe because it can cause DNA damage.
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But in the UK version, they eliminate these ingredients. And this runs the gamut across
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the board. Whether it's M&Ms, I mean, I think about Halloween coming up, it's going to be an M&Ms,
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Starbursts, you know, Haribo gummy bears. Almost every single major American food company is doing
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this because they're using the lack of regulation in our US food system to their advantage.
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And it's very hypocritical. And I think it's unethical because we're American citizens. And as
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RFK Jr. said in that Senate roundtable, if any other country was doing this to us, it would be
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considered an act of war. We have an opportunity right now to let the American public know about
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this happening. And we're under a massive experiment within the human population. In 1958,
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let me just give you some stats. In 1958, there was only 800 food additives approved from use.
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Now it's over 10,000. And there are thousands of chemicals that have not even been reviewed by the
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FDA at all. They've been literally just slid right into the food system without anybody knowing what
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the risks are, what the safety data looks like. And you see the skyrocketing rates of disease and cancer
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and other serious issues that are related to a lot of these additives. And we've got to do something
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about it. In Europe, there's only 400 ingredients approved for use. So, you know, we have a huge disparity
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between different countries, but also these are American food companies doing this. We need to
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hold them accountable. And one of the companies that is at the forefront of this right now, in my eyes,
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is Kellogg's because they're targeting little children. Back in 2015, they said that they would
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remove artificial food dyes from all their cereals by 2018, but they never did. And they lied about it.
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And they started to create new cereals that were targeting the smallest of children using the most
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popular toddler songs like Baby Shark and Disney's Little Mermaid to create new cereals and invent new
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cereals that would hook children of today. And they're using these artificial dyes that they know
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are linked to hyperactivity in children. Because back in 2010, when the Southampton study came out
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in Europe, Europe started requiring a warning label on any product that used an artificial food dye that
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says it may cause adverse effects on activity and attention in children. And because Kellogg's didn't
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want to put that warning label on their product, they reformulated. So they know there is harm with
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their product. They are liable for this harm. And I'm asking them to remove artificial food dyes
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right now in a petition that has over 150,000 signatures on my website. And we're going to be
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delivering those petitions to their headquarters on October 15th. I'm inviting both presidential
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candidates along with several different food activists and the general public to join me.
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And I believe this is going to be one of the most massive grassroots campaign to hold American
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companies accountable once and for all using one of the most iconic American brands, Kellogg's.
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So I want people to support this. I tweeted it out. But for the listening audience,
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is it just foodbabe.com? Remind me of where they can go because we do need people to sign this petition.
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Sure. You can just go to foodbabe.com slash baby shark.
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Okay. So we have to put the pressure on them or they will not listen. I heard, I think it was
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Callie Means or somebody at the hearing last Monday saying, if just, you know, some significant
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portion of the audience watching this would say to Kellogg's, we're no longer buying your cereal
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until you do this. It would happen overnight. We are in charge. Moms in particular are in charge of
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Kellogg's, whether they know it or not. So sign this petition and tell them we're not effing around
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anymore. Get this shit out of what you're putting on the shelves that our kids see as we go by.
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And can I just, before, before we leave this topic, I know there are a lot of people, especially my
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audience will say big brother, like we don't, we don't need, and I know California just passed a law
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trying to remove some of these food dyes from the school lunches. And I thought that was great.
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And I saw you tweet about it. So it's a Democrat and a nanny state doing more nanny state stuff.
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And a lot of people on the right, which is largely my audience, not all, but largely,
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they don't like nanny state. You know, they didn't like what Mayor Bloomberg cut down on the big gulp
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in New York City. It's like, we know it's bad for you, but if you want to live your life like that,
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too bad. I see this as different, Bonnie. You explain.
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That was actually the food companies lobbying behind the scenes to look for reasons they could try to get
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those different actions not passed, by the way. So it wasn't exactly, I think, like a conservative
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ideal. You know, I just don't think so. I think a lot of lobbying behind the scenes and a lot of
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front groups behind the scenes was doing that work. But let me just tell you this. This is not the nanny
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state. This isn't asking for more regulations. This is, you're already doing this across the pond.
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Do it for us. Why are you poisoning American children and giving other countries' children
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better, safer ingredients? This is a rigged system. This is not about creating more regulations. This
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is about doing what's right as an American company. And there's no point of these ingredients,
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right, Bonnie? It's not like we want them to take the sugar out of Froot Loops. No,
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you're putting in totally useless dyes to make it more marketing or more marketable or attractive to
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children, which are unnecessary. Or if you really want them to be colored, you can use vegetables to
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color the Froot Loops the same as is done in some other products. You know, I have both the Froot
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Loops right here. Let me just show you. So this is the United States. Actually, this is the,
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these, this is the United States version. And this is the Canadian version. So let me just show you the
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differences in these. So this, this is the Canadian color right here. This is the, this is the US color
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right here. You can see the subtle differences in color and how much brighter the US version is.
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Well, it looks neon. Yes, it is. And in focus groups, guess which product children ate more of
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this one. And so not only are they using it to, for a marketing tool, they're contributing to
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obesity. This is sugar Latin cereal. This isn't the healthiest thing on the market. Someone can eat,
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even though the CEO of Kellogg's wants you to eat it for dinner in terms of all the inflation that we are
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experiencing as a country. I mean, this is something that is completely has to change.
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You know, as Americans, we should say we've had enough. We need to rise up and tell everyone about
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what's really happening with the American food supply. And again, it's not just Kellogg's, but I
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think if we use Kellogg's as an example, and they lead by making this change, I think other companies
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will follow suit. And I think they have a real opportunity here. I don't think they're going to want to have
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the massive grassroots rally that I'm envisioning at their front doors. So Kellogg's, if you're listening,
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now is the time to make the change. You're going to have to do it in California schools. Now it's time to do
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it across the board. Like you said, in 2015, keep your promise. It's time to remove the dyes.
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And Grace, so I, as I said in the intro, had never, forgive me, heard of you, but I saw you speak and I saw
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everybody speak. I watched the whole thing at that here. And I was like, who is this young woman?
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Like who's like at 18, you've already done a food documentary. And it's talking about how the problem
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with, with what Bonnie is discussing is not just, well, that stuff, that doesn't sound great. You
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know, maybe we don't want titanium dioxide, which we put in our sunscreen to be in our food. It's,
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it's killing us. That's, that's the point that really got your attention as a young girl. And
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you did this whole documentary. I'm going to show the audience just a little bit of this,
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um, in this piece of the documentary called cancer, a foodborne illness.
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Grace talks about what Twinkies and Clorox have in common. Sot 34.
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Did you know that the chemical we use to bleach the flour inside of Twinkies
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is the exact same chemical utilized to create our most common disinfectant, Clorox. Oh, and by the
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way, the chemical is chlorine gas. And this is just one out of the 37 total ingredients inside of a
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Twinkie. This is standard for ultra processed foods. So Grace, I know you lost your grandfather to cancer
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and that was one of the things that spurred your interest in this, but how did you as must,
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you must've been at like a 17 year old at this point, get access to the experts to try to start
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nailing some of this down? Yeah. Well, I always attribute like my whole research journey to the
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high school that I went to in Austin. It's an alternative based education system where I
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had time in the mornings to do all my academics within two hours so that I could then open up my
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entire afternoon for this kind of research. Um, and I mean, while my grandfather did kind of spark
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the passion for me, what really got me going is the fact that my generation is so clearly being
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targeted by these big food companies. It's not even funny. And it made me so angry that I just
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continued down this rabbit hole of research where I was reading these things that it's not that crazy
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to find. I mean, I'm, I'm no smarter than your other, you know, average teenager. I just know
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how to use Google. So I was searching up these things, learning like, Oh, great. Twinkies have
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the same chemical that's in Clorox or, Oh, you know, the same amount of sugar in orange juice is
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actually equivalent to just drinking a bottle of Coke. It's those kinds of things where you're like,
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how have I been thinking so differently my whole life? And you realize, well, we've been lied to,
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you know? And I, I really hate when people tell me like, well, technically it's everyone's choice
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if they want to eat a donut. It's not, you know, it's just your fault. Like you teenagers, you just
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have terrible diets and y'all need to own up to it, but it's not your fault when the system is rigged
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against you. Like if we're playing the game of life, teenagers had a very late start and all these
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big food companies are just flat out cheating. So there's literally no way for us to go against
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this without trying to demand some change right now. And I mean, the only other time I've seen this
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in history is when you look at big tobacco, this, I always say that ultra processed foods are the new
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cigarette for my generation and people, you know, that really seems to trigger something within them
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because I think they know it's kind of true. And we now have research showing that the big tobacco
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industry actually bought big food companies like Kellogg's and General Mills and, or sorry, I think it was
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General Mills and Kraft. And they used the same kind of tactics that they had deployed, you know,
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with all of their tobacco industry product development for these foods. And then they just
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exited in 2001 and impacted literally every other big food company in the way that they develop their
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foods so that they're highly palatable and addicting. And they targeted kids just like how with cigarettes,
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they would target kids by putting these signages saying, you know, Oh, go smoke a cig at children's
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eye level. Now they're just paying off dietitians on Tik TOK to promote cereal. So, I mean, it's the
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same thing. We're going through the same motions, but people don't want to accept it because that's
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freaking scary. If it's as deeply entrenched within all this corruption as the whole tobacco scheme was,
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which I've found that, you know, it's so awful about the, about comparing it to cigarettes is it's like
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ultra processed foods are your generation's cigarettes. If, if in a world in which cigarettes
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were given to babies and toddlers and force fed to them in the lunchroom, when they go to school.
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And then again, at night at the dinner table, and we're almost impossible to get around having,
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I mean, it's just, and this was one of the points that they were making. I think Callie means
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raised this at the hearing that, especially if you're lowering income or if you need government
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assistance on your lunch program, you are getting spoon fed the most disgusting, harmful stuff on
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earth. The government pays for it and no one gives a damn what's going to happen to you as you balloon
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in obesity and with disease. So it is, it is a problem, not just for us grownups, but really for
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Yes, no, it definitely is. And I think your point about us being given these as children, I mean,
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baby formula itself has these highly reactive, easily oxidized, polyunsaturated fatty acids. Like
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that's the primary source of fat from seed oils within them. So we're giving these to babies. These
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fats get stored in our cell membranes. They wreak all sorts of havoc and we're literally not even
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given a year old. And then we're given the baby food, which is like, it's like the vape of cigarettes
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for ultra processed food. You know, it's like, we're going to give them a little bit of a toned
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down version and it's still going to have added sugars, which by the way, like the amount of added
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sugars that an adolescent should have is zero grams. And there's no getting around that. And they'll say,
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Oh, it's okay to have a little. No, it's not. It's unacceptable. And the worst part is your brain is
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only 90% developed once you hit kindergarten. So this entire time period, their brains are barely
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even developed and they're being given these foods. Just think about, I would love to see research
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on the way that their entire wiring of their neural networks is changing because these foods are so
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addicting that, I mean, they are raised by the foods themselves. It's terrifying.
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The other thing is, and RFKJ was raising this, Bonnie, but it's, and I confess, I didn't know
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about this. I'm at the beginning of my whole journey on the lane that you ladies have been on
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is glyphosate and how this product is all over, like everything we eat, any wheat product, any,
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any pasta. And he was making the point that there's, that's, it's one of the reasons why there's such a
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difference between the pasta we get at our grocery store and the ones you get when you go to Italy
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and have in a restaurant there and the way you feel when it's done. But that stuff is over almost
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It is. And it's, it's pervasive. And unfortunately it's, it's making its way into every single thing
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we eat. It's in wheat, it's in oats, you're finding it in all of major products like Cheerios.
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Yes, correct. So it, it is the main chemical that is coupled with GMO seeds. So Monsanto,
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who created these patented seeds, corn, soy, canola, sugar beets, all of those seeds are,
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are able to withstand heavy doses of this chemical glyphosate. And that is really problematic because
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glyphosate is now been implicated to cause non, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, bladder cancer,
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autoimmune disorders, leaky gut, fertility issues. There's so many things that can be linked back
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to the uses of glyphosate in our environment. And it's literally ending up in breast milk and sperm,
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in our tissues, in our body. And so there's something that's got to be done. You know, back
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about 10 years ago, we started this huge campaign to label genetically engineered ingredients because
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of this widespread use of glyphosate. Before, when you looked at a package or a product,
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you couldn't turn it around and see that it was bioengineered to avoid some of these chemicals.
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Now you can, but it took a lot of work to get that done. And, you know, during that process,
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I was actually targeted by Monsanto and the other chemical companies in a widespread disinformation
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campaign as a food activist. And just on Friday, they released that there was a private social
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network actually being funded by taxpayer money to prevent and to downplay the risks of pesticides
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getting out to the public. The former communications director of Monsanto, now Bayer,
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was in charge of this. And they had profiles on any person that would speak about out about these
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issues or wanted GMO labeling. You know, I protested in front of the secretary of agriculture under
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President Obama, Tom Bilsack at the DNC about this issue. And they had a huge profile on me,
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including my parents' phone number and address, my address, you know, personal information to target
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me. And this is just coming out. And this just goes to show you how much they want to keep the
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public in the dark about these chemicals that are being sprayed on our food. And it's across the United
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States where several other countries, again, in Europe and elsewhere, regulate these chemicals a lot
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differently. And that's one of the reasons why people always say, when I go to Europe, I feel so good
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eating their food because it just has a tremendous less amount of chemicals than they do here in the
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United States on a day to day basis. Yeah, because I can understand, okay, buy organic fruits and
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vegetables because they spray those for insects. I mean, honestly, it didn't even occur to me that
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like your pasta may be covered in pesticides because of the way they grow wheat. I mean, I like literally
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this is a new thought to me. Holy cow. Now it makes more sense. But that's why it's not a nanny state
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problem. You can't get away from these pesticides and these chemicals and these toxins. I mean, you
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can, but it's so hard. If everything were in your face, this is what we put in our product. This is
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what you need to be aware you're consuming. That would be one thing. But that's one of your big
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things, Vani, is you're like, put some labels on there. Even our beer. I know you've been fighting
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to get beer companies to tell it. I mean, basically, we're going to have to spend a minute before we
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wrap this up on what can we eat and drink because there's just hidden dangers in so many foods and
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drinks. Well, the first thing you need to start with is real food, food that comes from the earth,
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whole foods, things that you would find at the farmer's market that has been unadulterated by
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the food industry, not in a plastic package, not in a box. And if you start there and you make the
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majority of your diet, those types of foods, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, dairy, meat,
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beans, you will be tremendously so much healthier. And when I did that, I went off nine prescription
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drugs and felt better than I've ever felt in my life. For most of my life, I've been walking around
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like a zombie. I had two surgeries in my early twenties and finally hit rock bottom. And when I
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switch to real food without added synthetic pesticides, without the preservatives, without
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the chemicals is when I started to feel so much better and realize a life that I never thought was
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possible. And this is one of the reasons why I started my company, Truvani, and to change the
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food industry from the inside out, because I wanted to create products without toxins. I wanted to have
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labels without lies. I wanted to have real food without added chemicals. And I want every single
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American food company to move that way as well, because Americans are dying faster than ever.
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We're the sickest nation, but we have a quote, you know, quote unquote, the best healthcare.
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We don't, we have sick care and we have to do something different.
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So you grace talk to among others, um, you talk to Dr. Kate Shanahan, who I love, and she's the one who
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first told me about seed oils and how to get those out of my life. And it's been hard, but I have to say,
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like, if you really pay attention, you can do it. You can do it. And you talked to Dr. Thomas,
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uh, Seyfried, is that how you pronounce it? Uh, of Boston, Boston college. And he, he talked to you
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about this, you know, the issue of cancer. And you have a bunch of sound bites in the, in the
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documentary you did with people saying that's probably genetic, right? Like most cancers are
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probably genetic. And, um, you spoke with this doctor who kind of put that on its head.
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Yeah. I mean, it all comes back to this ideological dogma that we have begun to believe, um, which is
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that all of these chronic diseases are genetic and random and out of our control. And really the
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reason why this is the prevalent belief right now is not because it's the most supported by
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evidence. It's actually hindered our ability to find the so-called cure for these diseases. Like
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when's that going to happen? Who knows? And it actually is sending a message that your health
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is out of your control, but you know, it's in your doctor's hands and guess who the doctor is going to
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give that control over to big pharma and all of the pharmaceutical kind of companies that are going to
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then give you their drops. And so that's what I realized was actually happening because I came into
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the whole research journey, believing that cancer is a genetic disease. I was like, well,
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well, that sucks that I guess I can't do much for it, but maybe, maybe there is like something more
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to it. And the deeper I dug, the more I realized as I was learning from incredible people like Dr.
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Thomas Seyfried and Dr. Kate Shanahan, who have been shunned by the scientific community as pseudoscience,
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just because they're pursuing a different theory, which is that it's not genetically based and that it
00:25:06.880
actually could have origin from mitochondrial dysfunction, which would be impacted by our lifestyle.
00:25:13.160
factors. So again, it goes back to it's in your control. And that's when I was like, whoa,
00:25:17.860
there is so much more to this. We have this really strongly held belief in something that isn't really
00:25:25.920
that supported by research. And so I felt it was extremely important that I was able to highlight
00:25:32.680
Dr. Thomas Seyfried's work because he is showing how we can actually reverse stage four
00:25:39.380
glioblastoma, which is super intense and gruesome. And most of the time you end up dying from that
00:25:46.520
with the ketogenic diet paired with surgery. That's crazy. Instead of also having to do standard
00:25:53.280
therapy, chemotherapy, you know, and also radiation, which is just being completely brutalized.
00:26:00.160
And we just accept it as that's the way it is because no one's actually asking questions,
00:26:04.540
nor do they feel responsible for their health. So that's kind of what I bring it back to every time.
00:26:09.540
You know, it's funny because it reminds me, we've had a doctor on the show a couple of times
00:26:12.780
named Dr. Dale Bredesen, and he's been jumping up and down about this when it comes to dementia and
00:26:19.440
Alzheimer's saying that there, there is a cure, like, stop, stop telling people that they're just
00:26:25.400
going to have to get this. If they have the bad genes or if they have it in their family,
00:26:29.520
that you can eat differently. He's a big fan of keto. Um, you can sleep differently. You can
00:26:35.260
detoxify your home, your world, but you just have to educate yourself and nothing's a guarantee,
00:26:40.740
but that we don't have to just wait until we have dementia symptoms. Then be like, ah, well,
00:26:45.600
hope they invent a cure. We can start the cure right now. Um, can I ask you before I go back to
00:26:52.520
about Halloween grace, because you're, you're still young, you're still 18. And most, a lot of us are
00:26:57.720
parents and we're like, that's like, this is like your hell. You guys must, you guys must be like,
00:27:03.680
oh my God, what are we doing? I call it the, I call it the holiday death aisle. When I go down
00:27:09.360
the grocery store and you see Halloween candy, it's the holiday death aisle. And they, they repeat it.
00:27:13.140
It's Halloween, then it's Christmas, then it's Easter, then it's Valentine's Day. It's the whole
00:27:17.380
thing. It's the holiday death aisle. So how, what, I mean, since you're closer to our children's
00:27:24.040
ages, Grace, how exactly would you suggest we navigate that when it comes to our children?
00:27:30.540
Yeah, that's, I'm going to steal that line from you, Bonnie. That's great. I mean,
00:27:34.300
you know, I would say that you've got to start by giving them something real because kids,
00:27:42.780
if they've been fed all of these crappy ultra-possed foods their whole life, they don't actually
00:27:48.480
really desire anything real because that's what they think food is. And so, I mean, I'm a little
00:27:54.740
old to go trick-or-treating now, but I do take my nieces with me and they know, I mean, I'm that
00:28:00.980
annoying aunt where I'm like, so Tate, tell me what's in that Kit Kat. And she's like, well, I mean,
00:28:08.100
I don't know. I'm like, why don't we try to figure it out? Like, and then I'll, I'll do things where I'll
00:28:12.900
like pick up a rock. I'm like, what do you think this is made of? Like, would you eat this? Do you want to
00:28:17.460
just put things in your mouth that you don't actually understand what is within that? And so
00:28:22.320
then it's really just getting people to think like, you just got to be like, Hey, let's wake up guys.
00:28:27.120
I mean, I'm, I'm in a college dorm now and I'm trying to convince all of my dorm mates to stop
00:28:31.800
eating Kraft mac and cheese. It kills me guys. They pour out the cheese concentrate. I'm like,
00:28:37.500
what the heck is cheese concentrate? Does anyone truly know? No, they have no clue. And so it's,
00:28:43.840
I mean, I don't care. I'm already labeled the health food girl and people know that, but you
00:28:49.000
know, I, I already kind of changed the snack landscape of our food and I'm just going to
00:28:53.060
keep trying to make small level change like that, especially within school cafeterias. That is a
00:28:59.560
really big focus of mine. I think as parents, we can, we can basically just say, do your trick or
00:29:05.780
cheating, understand, enjoy that night. And the bag magically disappears a day or two later. What do you
00:29:12.000
think, Bonnie? So no, no, here's what we do at my house. So I have a three-year-old and I have a
00:29:15.960
seven-year-old. And so we have the switch, which that comes and she's been coming since my daughter
00:29:21.480
started trick or treating. So it's been five years or so. So it's part of the tradition. And because
00:29:27.180
she's, you know, the daughter of the food babe, she knows about all this stuff. So she, she knows
00:29:31.340
about chemicals and food and ingredients. And we always swap out a lot of the toxic versions for the
00:29:39.500
healthier, uh, less, um, you know, ingredient intensive version. So there's some great brands
00:29:44.860
out there. Yeah. So unreal. Yeah. Unreal is a great brand. I love the coconut on reels. Yes. And
00:29:52.080
they make a, uh, uh, like a, a lookalike for Snickers, which I love, you know, and then they
00:29:57.400
have M and M's, uh, that are unreal. They have peanut butter cups that are unreal, like Justin's
00:30:02.020
peanut butter cups. I love yum earth. They'll make lollipops and little like gummies and jelly
00:30:07.800
beans and things like that. So there's so many different options. And I actually have
00:30:11.840
a lot of those swaps on my website and on my Instagram page. And I'll be posting those
00:30:16.260
as now it's we're entering October, but the switch, which will come right after Halloween
00:30:21.920
ends and they put in all the bad candy and the switch, which broom goes faster. If it's
00:30:28.120
even worse, like the worst of the worst candy in there. So they know we go through and we
00:30:32.240
talk about the ingredients. We put it back in their basket. We leave it by the door. And
00:30:36.180
in the morning, when they wake up the night after Halloween, the switch, which brings a
00:30:40.940
toy, a toy, a coloring book, something fun. It's like Christmas for them.
00:30:45.060
Now I got news for you as now the mother of a 15 year old, 13 year old and 11, it gets
00:30:49.880
harder, right? Because they're like, you know, maybe it's a gift card. I don't care. It's
00:30:54.040
delicious. Right. And like, but how about that? Because as I listened to all of this, I
00:31:00.340
think these are all great changes to start making in our lives. And we can do a lot of this
00:31:04.820
and we can really change the way we eat. But my own feeling is, but we can still have
00:31:09.200
Halloween and we can have, we can have chocolate birthday cake. Like we can do some things here
00:31:13.300
or there that are, you know, that aren't going to completely wreck it. Am I wrong on that,
00:31:18.840
Bonnie? No, I don't think you should poison the neighborhood children, at least at your
00:31:22.500
house. I think you should choose some artificial free dye. My home is going to be egged.
00:31:29.820
No, it's not. There are really yummy things out there. You can go to, to Sprouts, you can go to
00:31:35.180
Whole Foods, you can go to Trader Joe's and find any of this stuff there. Even Costco has it now. I
00:31:39.900
mean, those unreal, you know, little coconut bars that you like, they have huge boxes of those at
00:31:43.960
Costco that you could give out at Halloween. So I don't think, I don't, I think you're going to be
00:31:48.340
surprised. I think kids are going to really like it. I love lesser evil has a little bag of popcorn,
00:31:53.440
you know, made with coconut oil, three ingredients, really delicious. I mean, and then giving out
00:31:58.460
like little waters and things like that, when kids are running around the neighborhood,
00:32:01.500
they appreciate that kind of stuff. So there's always a different thing that you could, you
00:32:05.800
know, vote with your dollars at your own house. Now, if you decide to let go and eat, you know,
00:32:11.240
whatever the butterfinger, you know, that's, that's on you, Megan, but you know, it's definitely
00:32:16.460
I'm going to eat a butterfinger here or there. I can't go full hog. What's the point of living? I
00:32:20.080
like a little, little badness, but maybe in a year after I'm on this same journey where I don't have
00:32:24.860
any of the hateful eight inside of me, I will feel about it the way you guys do, where it's like,
00:32:28.940
I would never let that touch my lips right now. I'm still like, I'm an abuser, you know, I'm a user
00:32:34.320
still. I definitely will steal some of that candy. There is an alternative for almost every single
00:32:40.160
person's like, you know, craving, I believe, because I tell you the food, babe lifestyle and
00:32:45.760
grace, I know you too, because I've, I've had dinner with you, but we don't, we don't have a life of,
00:32:51.480
um, of deprivation. We're eating real food. We're having things made with real ingredients. We're
00:32:57.400
eating ice cream. We're having pie, you know, we're having cake, but we're just eating it with
00:33:01.220
real ingredients. And that's what we need to get back to is we need to eliminate the chemicals from
00:33:07.100
our diet and go back to real foods because real things taste amazing. I mean, I think about my
00:33:12.540
Truvani bar that I created called the only bar. We're using ingredients that you would find in your
00:33:16.640
own kitchen. We're sweetened with maple syrup, something you would find in your own, you know,
00:33:20.420
refrigerator. And that's what we need to get back to. Here's what you need to do.
00:33:24.280
There's what you need to do. You need to connect with like a billionaire, like Nicole Shanahan.
00:33:29.580
She's RFKJ's running me. And you guys need to come up with a grocery store chain that actually
00:33:36.760
is whole foods. Unlike the one that goes by that name. Now you can call it real foods or something.
00:33:43.440
And the only thing that's in there has been blessed by the food, babe, by you grace, by like people who
00:33:50.260
are at that hearing who actually care about what's being sold. Like it would just make life so much
00:33:56.200
easier for the rest of us. If we knew someone who's educated on this stuff had done the pre-screen and
00:34:01.400
then we could just go shop there. Will you please do that? Please. I will invest in it.
00:34:05.940
I've been asked that so many times. But again, yeah, it's a, yeah, maybe, maybe in the future,
00:34:10.940
and we'll see. Oh, that's fine. Grace, what about you? You've got your whole life ahead of you. This
00:34:15.800
would be a great way for you to make money and you can study it in college. And I bet you, I could get
00:34:21.060
you all sorts of investors to get behind you. I love it. I'll add it as a side project, you know,
00:34:26.140
no big deal. You're probably actually capable of doing that. You guys, thank you both so much. I love
00:34:33.140
the information and I really appreciate you putting so much effort into this so the rest of us
00:34:37.040
can be the beneficiaries of your good work. And don't forget, go to foodbabe.com, right?
00:34:41.800
Bonnie, foodbabe.com to sign that petition. And let's remind Kellogg's who's in charge. All the
00:34:49.100
best to you both. Thank you. Thank you, Megan. Okay. So don't forget foodbabe.com. Go ahead and
00:34:55.180
do it. Just put your name on there. Screw you, Kellogg's for poisoning our children. That's my opinion.
00:35:00.500
The Maha movement is growing, right? I mean, this, this is all part of make America healthy. Again,
00:35:06.120
we've talked into Cole Shanahan. We of course talked to RFKJ many times. We've spoken with
00:35:10.700
these two amazing women. We watched that hearing, brought you some highlights. Please, please,
00:35:15.600
please like stay informed on this stuff. No matter what happens in this presidential election,
00:35:21.060
this is real. Casey means we're going to get Callie on. This, this stuff is important. It's
00:35:25.900
important for your wellness, for your children's wellness, for you having a long and prosperous life.
00:35:31.280
And it is going to require some work of us all, but I feel like if we do it together over the next year,
00:35:35.800
a year from now, we're all going to feel better and be living better and better longer, which is
00:35:42.120
great. Okay. Let me know what you think. Email me, Megan, M-E-G-Y-N at MeganKelley.com. See you next time.
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