The Megyn Kelly Show - Deep Dive： How Kamala Harris is Polling Against Donald Trump So Far... and What To Watch For, with Spencer Kimball ｜ Ep. 847

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.980 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and this deep dive special episode.

00:00:17.560 Kamala Harris has all but secured her party's nomination using the magic Democratic wand.

00:00:23.060 Now that President Joe Biden has dropped out of the presidential race and we are starting to learn

00:00:27.680 what Americans think of her, her candidacy, as she faces former President Donald Trump.

00:00:33.620 A brand new poll from Emerson College out today gives us one of our first looks at how Kamala

00:00:40.500 Harris is faring versus Donald Trump in key swing states like Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

00:00:48.460 Here to break it down for us is Spencer Kimball. He's the executive director of Emerson College

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00:01:57.940 hold on to the dream. Spencer, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.

00:02:02.540 Megan, thanks for having me.

00:02:04.480 All right, so what's the top-line information on how she's doing so far a couple days in?

00:02:08.980 Well, what we saw last week where the Democrats or independents were breaking more towards Trump,

00:02:14.980 and she seems to have stemmed the tide of the debate loss and bringing the race back to competitiveness, 0.56

00:02:22.160 specifically in Pennsylvania and in Georgia.

00:02:26.140 So she, as far as I understand, basically got the Democrats back to pre-debate numbers for Biden.

00:02:33.360 The collapse from that colossal performance has been rectified, at least according to your poll.

00:02:41.300 Yeah, that's what we were seeing. Since the debate, we saw Trump picking up one to two points

00:02:47.560 in each one of these states every week. So remember, last time we spoke, Arizona was at seven points.

00:02:53.560 Georgia was getting up to six points. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were up to five points.

00:02:58.040 And we were starting to look at what is President Biden's pathway to victory. And it was a very small

00:03:04.680 window that he had. Now the race has been shaken up a little bit. And we see a couple of different

00:03:09.660 pathways with Harris on the top of the ticket. Okay, so it looks like the following.

00:03:17.720 Five swing states. Let's see. She's trailing Trump in four of them and tied in one of them. 0.96

00:03:23.940 In Arizona, he's up over Kamala, five points, 49 to 44. In Georgia, he's up over Harris by two points,

00:03:34.120 48 to 46. In Michigan, he's up one point, 46 to 45. In Pennsylvania, he's up two points, 48 to 46.

00:03:43.580 And in Wisconsin, they're tied 47% for each person. So which of those states has been affected the most

00:03:52.620 by her subbing in for Biden? I would say Georgia, because last time we spoke, I thought Georgia was

00:04:00.520 off the table for the Democrats. And that really put a lot of pressure on that blue wall to be able

00:04:04.940 to hold both Arizona or to hold Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, if the Democrats lose both Georgia

00:04:11.920 and Arizona. So so Georgia now being back at two points is a lot more competitive than the five to

00:04:19.000 six points that we were seeing a couple weeks ago. And that's a key state if the Democrats

00:04:24.700 are able to get to 270. And who's driving these increased numbers for Harris? Because as I read

00:04:34.980 the write up of this, you pin it to some extent, at least on younger voters. But we've spent the past

00:04:42.060 two days looking at other polls and numbers that show she actually wasn't doing very well with younger

00:04:48.500 voters, which is confusing. Well, it's going to take it almost looks like they're rebuilding that Obama

00:04:56.640 coalition that was kind of falling apart over the last couple of months. If you remember in 2008, Obama

00:05:03.080 wins that 18 to 29 year old vote by about 30 points. And since 2008, the Democrats have done a pretty good

00:05:09.480 job with that 18 to 29 year old group. What we were seeing over the last few months is that group was

00:05:15.220 pretty split. In some polls, we saw that even leading towards Trump. But now we see that it jumped

00:05:21.900 back over the last couple of days, where some of those underlying data points. Now, it's not the same

00:05:27.840 in every state. So in Wisconsin, for example, we might see a little bit more struggle with the younger

00:05:32.880 voter, but that Trump actually struggles with the older voter a little bit more in Wisconsin.

00:05:37.280 But generally speaking, the younger voter has come back to a greater extent than where they were

00:05:43.620 when President Biden was on the top of the ticket, even in March and April prior to the debate

00:05:50.080 performance. Interesting. I mean, he was very, very old, is very, very old. And we saw Democrats

00:05:56.000 saying from the beginning, some two thirds of them, he's too old to be president. But I'm going to give

00:06:00.400 you this. And this is not just Harry Anton of CNN. This has been reflected in some polling since she

00:06:06.040 became the likely person to possibly replace him. And then since he dropped out and endorsed her,

00:06:11.900 we've been seeing lots of polls showing young people are disillusioned and are leaning either

00:06:16.220 not to voting or more towards Republicans. But here's a report. We aired this soundbite yesterday

00:06:20.860 of Harry Anton on CNN. Joe Biden won voters under the age of 35 by 21 points. What do we see with

00:06:27.760 Kamala Harris? Well, she's still ahead, but the margin here is significantly less than what we saw

00:06:33.800 with Joe Biden back in 2020. She's up by just nine points. You may make the argument that was better

00:06:38.480 than Biden was doing before he got out. But compared to that Democratic baseline, where Democrats have

00:06:43.460 historically in presidential elections, at least this century, been carrying that young vote by 20 or more

00:06:49.140 percentage points, she is way down from that. Democrats say they're more motivated to turn out 0.86

00:06:53.400 after Biden left the race. Well, we do see a significant portion of Democrats who say, yes,

00:06:58.200 39 percent. The thing I was interested in was it disproportionately younger voters who said that

00:07:03.120 they were more likely to turn out or more motivated to turn out. And what we see here is it's 42 percent,

00:07:08.040 not a big difference between 42 and 39 percent. So this idea, again, that the vice president has unique

00:07:14.480 potential to dig in and get young voters to turn out, John, it's just not there in the numbers,

00:07:20.360 despite all the Internet memes that are going around. OK, can you speak to that, Spencer? Because

00:07:25.880 it sounds like the Emerson poll does not jive with that. Yeah, I would contradict some of that analysis

00:07:33.540 in that the younger voters, the minority voter, it's black and Hispanic votes that are traditionally

00:07:39.000 Democrats. And they're the ones who are sitting on the sideline, not with Biden. They're more likely

00:07:44.340 to come back in line with a Harris on the ticket. And that's what we see in our numbers. It's not

00:07:50.500 necessarily the white vote that's coming back. It's those minority votes that she. Wait, younger 1.00

00:07:56.460 people who are a minority. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, because minorities are skewed towards the

00:08:02.280 younger demographic. They're the newer voters. Hispanic population are disproportionately younger than the

00:08:08.880 older Hispanics because younger ones are a larger population and they're more likely to be registered

00:08:14.560 to vote. So that's a group. Same thing. The black population is a little bit more dispersed over the

00:08:20.080 ages, but the minority groups generally are on the younger side and tend to vote Democrat. And what

00:08:27.940 we've seen is they've essentially come back into the fold for Harris to us to some extent, not to that

00:08:33.820 full extent, what we saw with Biden in, you know, 2020, but certainly stronger than what we saw just

00:08:39.260 a few weeks ago. Can you put a number on it? You know, he was saying they voted younger people

00:08:44.720 21 percent for Joe Biden in 2020 and that right now they were leaning towards Harris by only nine

00:08:52.140 percentage points, saying that nine percent was higher than Joe Biden was, you know, a couple of weeks

00:08:57.560 ago versus 2020. But it wasn't gangbusters. It wasn't up to the 2030 that people like Obama could

00:09:05.380 get in the Democrat Party. So can you put a number on what the surge is in these states or just overall

00:09:10.320 based on your polling? Well, I would agree somewhat to that analysis. It's definitely lower than the 30

00:09:16.640 or 20 percent, but it really depends on the state. So like the state of Georgia, about 20 percent of their

00:09:23.120 voters are 18 to 29. But in Pennsylvania, it's only like 13 percent of those voters. So to win in

00:09:30.160 in Georgia, 60, 40 amongst younger voters, that that's important. If you're winning 55, 45, that's a

00:09:37.180 big, you know, 10 point difference amongst 20 percent of the electorate. So each state is unique.

00:09:42.360 The Midwest is an older population where you're not going to see as many of those young votes. But that young

00:09:47.360 vote is really important in Georgia, maybe even in North Carolina. And the next time we take a look,

00:09:52.440 because that's where younger folks are moving and living. And we'll see if those numbers increase

00:09:58.020 what we were able to see with essentially what Obama was able to do, let's say, in Virginia. We saw that

00:10:02.880 youth vote drop over the last couple of months. Obama had built that up 16, you know, 12, 16 years ago and

00:10:09.480 pretty much handled it. I would I would also say that, yeah, we talk about the 18 to 29 year olds and that

00:10:15.860 is the youth vote. But where I see the Democrats are really struggling is the 30 to 39 year olds,

00:10:20.960 the people that came in with Obama and then are leaving right now, the Democrats. They're not

00:10:29.160 voting at the same propensity. And so that's where Harris is going to have to bring back more of the

00:10:34.740 vote. Yeah, she's got to win that youth vote and she'll win it to some extent. But then the other 1.00

00:10:39.900 vote as well, and I don't mean to jump around, is the new voters. The new voters have come in

00:10:46.240 and they're breaking for Trump. And we haven't seen that since 72 with Nixon. So if new voters

00:10:52.420 start breaking and they're being registered and coming in for the Republicans, that would shake

00:10:57.320 up obviously the 18 to 29 year olds. But we do have to go state by state and look at, well, you know,

00:11:03.520 look at Michigan, those younger voters in Michigan, they're not necessarily going to Trump, but they're

00:11:08.180 going to third parties. And in our polling, you can see that, you know, kind of pretty easily

00:11:13.240 between the head to head ballot test. And then when we add those third parties, and to me, that would

00:11:18.840 be a problem for Harris. She needs that youth vote out in Michigan to come out for her. And we'll see

00:11:25.840 over and it's going to take some time. You know, this is a new candidacy, though. She did run for 0.70

00:11:31.300 a cup of coffee in 2020. Not many people remember any of that. And so she'll get out there. Voters will

00:11:37.600 have to start hearing some messaging and then we'll see how it kind of shakes out after Labor Day.

00:11:42.680 A couple of other pieces of data. The Economist slash YouGov poll, registered voters came out

00:11:49.100 yesterday that showed Trump with 44, Harris with 41. That poll was taken during the crossover,

00:11:57.940 the 21st through the 23rd. And Biden, I guess it was Pelosi. I don't know. Is it was it? What was

00:12:05.400 I got to go back and look at my calendar now. So that 21st is 23rd is this past Sunday through

00:12:10.540 Tuesday. Yeah, so Trump up three. And their poll before that, mid-July, showed Trump up two

00:12:18.840 over Biden. The other thing that's in here, of course, is the assassination attempt, right? Like,

00:12:27.620 I don't even know how you poll for that. But that's another massive event that's

00:12:31.980 factored in, I guess, to some extent, these numbers. So what I'm gleaning right now is

00:12:37.480 these numbers are all over the board. You know, one one day we get a lesson that she's not exciting

00:12:44.120 to younger voters. The next day we get a lesson that actually she is kind of exciting to some

00:12:49.520 younger voters who are not into Joe Biden. And the overall numbers seem to, I think, in every poll

00:12:55.620 I've seen show Trump leading by a couple over Kamala, except for one, maybe two. I've only seen

00:13:01.900 one that shows Kamala Harris over Trump. I like, what does it mean?

00:13:08.860 Well, those national numbers are very important, in my opinion, because the Democrats need to win

00:13:13.820 the national vote. So seeing that Trump still has, as you mentioned, two to three point lead in those

00:13:18.980 national numbers, we're also seeing it reflected in the states. Remember, Arizona is a state where

00:13:23.560 Trump loses by a couple of votes and he's up by five points. Georgia, again, a state that he lost

00:13:29.060 by a couple of votes. He's up by two. Pennsylvania, he loses by a point. Michigan, he loses by a couple

00:13:35.040 of points. Now he's up. So nationally, he lost last time by four, four and a half. Now he's up two to

00:13:41.600 three. And you see a little bit of that residual down here at the state levels. And as that national

00:13:47.400 number changes over time, maybe, maybe not, it hasn't changed too much in about eight years.

00:13:53.780 We'll see if voters, you know, switch in and jump on. But I think the biggest takeaway is that Trump

00:14:01.760 is still leading Harris at this time in the state level. And then obviously in these other polls at

00:14:06.540 the national level. Spencer, when you were on last, you explained to us why we should care about that

00:14:11.880 national number, why we shouldn't just be obsessed with the electoral college, the swing state votes.

00:14:17.500 Can you explain that again for audience members who missed it? Sure. That national number,

00:14:24.400 in my opinion, is a barometer of what's going to happen at the state level. So if we look back in

00:14:31.400 2016, Clinton wins nationally by about two points. But at the state level, Trump is able to take it by,

00:14:38.580 you know, 40,000, 50,000 votes. In 2020, Biden gets that national number up to four and a half percent.

00:14:45.040 And now he's able to take those state numbers by about 40,000, 45,000 votes. Now we're into 2024.

00:14:52.620 This is the first time Trump has been up nationally in any of these polls. So it'll be interesting to

00:14:57.300 see if these state numbers hold where maybe it's not a 10,000 vote difference. It might be a little

00:15:03.340 bit higher in some of these states at this time. So that's why it's important to look at that national

00:15:09.160 number. To me, the Democrats need to win the national number because of states like New York and

00:15:14.400 California, which traditionally vote pretty heavy for the Democrats and give them a like a five to

00:15:19.440 seven million vote advantage just in those two states. And then the Republicans have to carry it

00:15:24.780 back. It's a little different this cycle with Florida being turning more red, but it's still an

00:15:31.240 important number for all of us to consider. And then I just say, because if you see low numbers in

00:15:38.220 New York and California in terms of turnout for the Democrats, it suggests to you there's a lack

00:15:44.780 of enthusiasm in the Democratic Party nationwide. Yeah, maybe a lower tide. And this is what we saw

00:15:51.540 back in 2016 when the results were coming in. It was a little easier back in 2016, 2020, the results

00:15:57.580 were a little tougher to follow. But in 16, you could see those early Kentucky, Indiana, those states

00:16:03.700 were three, four points higher than the polls. And then it was a rising tide around the entire

00:16:08.440 country. And so as we look at that national poll, if Harris is able to bring that back to even or take

00:16:14.960 the lead, then I think the Democrats have a chance. But if the Republicans are leading the national

00:16:19.880 poll, it's hard to imagine how the Democrats will be able, if they're picking up states like California

00:16:25.940 and New York still by 20 plus points, where their pathway is going to be. But with Harris on the

00:16:32.480 ticket now, there is at least an angle. Because remember, the Democrats lost three electoral votes

00:16:38.320 because of redistricting. So Biden's vote goes from 306 to 303 without even an election happening.

00:16:46.060 And those three electoral votes are really big. That's like Delaware or Vermont's changing to

00:16:51.680 Republican. And so the map is more in favor of Trump. And that's why when we were talking last time

00:16:57.980 saying, hey, if Georgia and Arizona, why was it so important this time as opposed to last? Because

00:17:02.600 now you've lost those three electoral votes. So now any one of those blue states, you don't have to

00:17:07.420 knock down two blue states. You only need to knock down one blue state because of the redistricting.

00:17:12.400 And so that's another factor which is different this cycle for us to keep an eye on.

00:17:17.820 So we're still in late July. Kamala Harris still has the convention, which will continue the quote

00:17:25.800 coronation of her. And she has the announcement of her running mate, which should provide a further

00:17:31.900 boost to her numbers if she chooses somebody acceptable. And, you know, some of these, maybe

00:17:36.680 the Pennsylvania governor, Josh Shapiro, who people are looking at very closely, obviously swing state.

00:17:41.960 So in your experience, do conventions and the announcement of a running mate provide

00:17:47.340 a decent boost to a candidate? And is it sustainable? Does it last?

00:17:53.480 Well, just last week, obviously Trump announced his running mate, but then you had Biden dropping

00:17:58.100 out and that took a little bit of that momentum away from what the Republicans were doing at their

00:18:02.560 convention. So obviously the Democrats have their plan. They're going to try to create momentum and

00:18:08.820 move the needle in their direction. But the Republicans are going to come out with some

00:18:12.640 messaging as well and try to circumvent some of that. And that's going to be interesting to watch

00:18:17.240 over the next four or five weeks as they have to redefine the campaign between these new candidates,

00:18:23.340 or at least between Harris and Trump. And that's going to be a challenge. And we'll see what the

00:18:29.180 messaging is over that time. And then from there, it'll kind of get into a groove, I presume,

00:18:35.200 on what we're going to be talking about in the fall.

00:18:38.820 Is there any way of knowing through polls, whether there's any backlash to the way this was done

00:18:44.820 within the Democrat party? You know, that it really was done just by the elites deciding it

00:18:50.380 would be Kamala Harris. And even though the messaging from Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries

00:18:54.280 continues to say, ground up, ground up, not top down, people know. So is that a factor or no?

00:19:01.620 Is that just a media story?

00:19:02.560 We'll see. Again, these things take time for people to kind of, you know, what happens if it

00:19:09.300 was one of their candidates that didn't get the nomination? And maybe that candidate becomes the

00:19:13.960 VP, in which case that will, you know, kind of end some of those sour grapes. But at this point,

00:19:20.000 it looks like the Democrats have kind of rallied around Harris. In our polling, about 80% of Democrats

00:19:26.320 in each one of these states wanted Harris. 10, 15% preferred somebody else. So there could be a

00:19:32.880 little backlash on that within the party. But the idea there is to get them all unified against Trump.

00:19:42.100 The one issue here is that Trump's favorability is actually stronger than Harris's in a lot of

00:19:47.600 these states. So it's going to be an interesting play. I don't know if that same playbook that the

00:19:53.000 Democrats have used for the last couple of cycles against Trump works as well this cycle. But

00:19:58.340 obviously, time will tell.

00:20:00.700 I know it's strange to think about, because what could they possibly say about Donald Trump that

00:20:04.660 hasn't been said already? You know, where she's not exactly fresh meat. You know, she's been the

00:20:10.720 vice president for four years, but she's a lot fresher. You know, all of her policy statements and

00:20:16.000 gaffes and so on will be coming back in a very forceful way. You can't really do that to Trump as much,

00:20:21.920 or at least, you know, it's not going to have the same effect because people lived it.

00:20:26.120 Yeah, I would agree with you on that. I mean, how much more on Donald Trump could be out there?

00:20:31.160 Harris is now going to be attacked in ways that she hasn't been before. And now we'll see how she

00:20:36.880 responds to some of her policies and some of those ideas that she has out there. And then obviously

00:20:42.200 having to defend this administration's positions on some of the issues of the day. So right now,

00:20:49.720 let me ask you something on that. So, so there's been a debate since he dropped and endorsed her

00:20:54.580 on whether the Republicans message has been, it's not the person, it's the policies.

00:21:00.040 It's that's, that's the problem. That's the reason you shouldn't vote Dem because it's not

00:21:04.240 the person, it's the policies. But what you're, what you seem to be saying is so far, it actually

00:21:10.120 was the person for at least, you know, some decent share of swing state voters. It was Joe Biden.

00:21:16.580 Yeah. Especially the younger vote, the female vote and the minority vote. Those were three 0.99

00:21:23.720 major constituents that were leaving Biden and they weren't necessarily going to Trump. They

00:21:28.800 were going to third parties or not going to vote at all, but we could see it. We could see the fallout

00:21:32.860 in these numbers every week. She's been able to bring that group back in, but remember they're

00:21:38.520 still trailing. So she'll need a bit of a game changer to continue to get this momentum and then 1.00

00:21:44.180 get over Trump in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan. Those are states that the Democrats need to win

00:21:51.880 in order to get to 270. So when we talk about that, because last time you were on, we talked about how

00:21:56.480 it wasn't looking so great for the Democrats. This is with Biden in the Rust Belt and in the,

00:22:02.640 in those sort of blue wall states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. And now there's been

00:22:10.720 buzz about how that may or may not be true for Harris. She's better than Biden in those states

00:22:17.240 probably, but she's going to do, she needs to focus not on those states, but on the sunbelt,

00:22:23.180 which as far as I understand is Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina. Is that like, can you walk me through

00:22:29.620 how this calculus goes and whether it's a good bet for them?

00:22:32.800 Yeah, it's interesting because it's going to depend on that VP pick. Does she go with Mark Kelly and try

00:22:39.620 to bring Arizona back into the fold or does she end up going with maybe a Shapiro or Roy Cooper out 0.90

00:22:45.740 of North Carolina, try to bring that back into the fold. But right now it looks like Arizona is not

00:22:51.700 all that competitive. It's leaning towards Trump. And so with that Biden or the Democrats are at 292

00:23:00.000 in their electoral votes. Nevada has been a state, the silver state has been leaning towards the

00:23:06.060 Republicans. And so that's something to also keep an eye on because there are six electoral votes.

00:23:12.080 And while that doesn't necessarily end it for the Dems, it definitely puts a lot of pressure on them

00:23:16.740 because now you have Pennsylvania that becomes a battleground. If the Democrats lose Pennsylvania,

00:23:24.380 Nevada and Arizona, Trump wins. If before last week when we were talking, Georgia was more red.

00:23:32.960 And if Georgia had turned red, now it's like any one of those states, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan,

00:23:41.040 Pennsylvania, Virginia, any one of those states that turn would cost the Democrats and give Trump back

00:23:48.760 the White House. And so keeping an eye on Georgia and seeing if Harris is able to kind of create more

00:23:56.500 energy in Atlanta and that Stacey Abrams magic that she's almost had. But that seems to have been lost

00:24:03.060 down there. So we're going to see if it comes back. North Carolina is a state that they're talking about

00:24:07.460 coming back into play. I thought North Carolina was the furthest away. It was about like seven points

00:24:12.300 for Trump. So we're going to see if the governor, if they go with him out of North Carolina, Cooper,

00:24:18.500 if that brings that, that's 16 electoral votes that would change the map because right now it's

00:24:24.060 leaning red. And so each one of these has, you know, the pluses and minuses. But what you're looking

00:24:31.840 at is a field where the Democrats are on a little bit of defense, having to defend all of these states.

00:24:38.260 And if any of Arizona goes and Georgia goes, then it's it's really a tough map. But if the Democrats

00:24:45.500 with Harris are able to get Georgia back in blue, then there's still that pathway if they carry the

00:24:52.080 Midwest. But the balance is you're giving up the Midwest.

00:25:00.620 So right. Exactly. Trump's fighting hard for those states. Now we've got three and a half months to go.

00:25:04.360 I know I won't hold you to this because it's just a it's just a guess at this point. We don't know,

00:25:08.340 but it's an important guess. Who would you rather be, Trump or Harris? And how would you place the

00:25:13.780 odds of Trump winning? Oh, I think you'd rather be Trump. Harris is coming off the bench right now,

00:25:20.560 replacing the starter, right? You had Joe Biden. He was the president. And you're like, yeah,

00:25:26.240 we're going to put the starter down here for the second half. We're going to bring in our bench

00:25:29.040 player and we're going to have her take over. That's that's a risky move. I mean, she was brought 0.97

00:25:34.280 on the ticket to balance the ticket. You know, there's a reason why these VPs are brought on

00:25:38.960 generally. It's not to necessarily become the next president. So we'll see if she's up for that

00:25:45.120 challenge of, you know, the presidential timber that she didn't really have to go through the

00:25:50.160 vetting process of the nominating contest. And we'll see what happens now that we're in the major

00:25:54.760 leagues. And then obviously her vice presidential candidate, how that might impact the race. But at

00:26:00.720 this point, I think the Republicans, they're not as strong as they were a week and a half ago.

00:26:07.280 But I still think that Trump's got an advantage at this time.

00:26:11.840 Is it was it like 60, 40, 52, 48? What would you where would you put it?

00:26:17.820 We're social sciences. We'll go with 95 percent confidence because that's where the polls are.

00:26:22.760 And then we'll see if it changes. Excellent. Spencer, thank you so much.

00:26:27.560 Love talking to you, Megan. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having us.

00:26:31.620 So interesting, right? The Republicans do not have this in the bag and the race has changed

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The Megyn Kelly Show - July 25, 2024

Deep Dive： How Kamala Harris is Polling Against Donald Trump So Far... and What To Watch For, with Spencer Kimball ｜ Ep. 847

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