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00:00:30.000All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out?
00:00:33.020Brazil's lime cheesecake started bright, didn't let up.
00:00:35.560Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the standout in the box.
00:00:38.620But if we're talking decadent performance, that's all France.
00:00:41.460Chocolate creme brulee had the richest finishes.
00:00:43.840Canadian fireworks really showed up big too.
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00:01:00.560Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:01:12.260Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday.
00:01:15.940I hope you had a great Memorial Day and had a moment to pay tribute to our troops who have given the ultimate sacrifice and their families too.
00:01:24.640Forget about the families, but when you meet them, boy, oh boy, you are reminded of how much the entire family gives when they have a man or woman in service in the armed forces who ultimately is killed.
00:01:37.900I mean, it's just, we move on with our merry lives and we forget about them and we shouldn't.
00:01:42.940And one way of remembering them would be to check out our Memorial Day special featuring Army Master Aviator Alan C. Mack.
00:01:49.620It was an amazing conversation about why it's so important to honor our men and women in uniform who have fallen in service.
00:01:57.760So you're not going to hear much of that from pop Democrats, that's for sure.
00:02:01.980As yesterday, liberal politicians in Minnesota seem to only care about one thing, the death of one man and one man only, George Floyd.
00:02:43.420The incident sparked days of protests and riots and supercharged the DEI movement that continues to infect our children in schools across this country, in the government, in all sorts of institutions in America that are only now in some cases being rolled back thanks to the Trump administration.
00:03:05.800I mean, it's wonderful. You get these little updates like DEI. They've gotten rid of DEI here, there, this company, that, this university. Great. Where's the apology for all of the people you tortured for six years? All the students you didn't let in because they let in because they happen to be white or, God forbid, Asian. Right.
00:03:23.980Where's your accountability for going so insane you violated federal civil rights laws for six years?0.60
00:03:33.500You thought the discrimination was better if it were just against whites.0.79
00:03:47.540And yesterday's tributes to George Floyd like he was Jesus underscore that the problem is not yet fully solved.
00:03:57.520To many on the left, that one death was apparently more important than the hundreds of thousands of soldiers who have died for our country.
00:04:04.220Exhibit A, the Minnesota governor and Kamala Harris's failed VP running mate, Tim Walsh.
00:04:10.480Governor Walz posting on X yesterday, quote, six years ago today, George Floyd's murder started a global movement for change.
00:04:18.580Let us continue working to build a society that lives up to its democratic ideals of liberty and justice for all.
00:04:28.700Walz also paid a visit to George Floyd Square in Minneapolis yesterday dancing.
00:09:31.660All of it shows you where their actual heart is. They're appealing to the same, I don't know, radical, insane people we watched for two months in Minneapolis harass and terrorize ICE agents. And there's news on that front today as well.0.98
00:09:49.220Joining me now to react to this and much more.
00:11:19.020Six years later, and I distinctly remember, I remember this so well.
00:11:22.880I remember where I was listening to you guys on the editors in the wake of like the wokeification of America that happened after Floyd.
00:11:29.960And you, one of your exit questions, Rich, was, you know, something to the effect of, will we still be dealing with this craziness in a couple of years? Or is this just temporary post-George Floyd? And I think most people thought it was temporary, but little did we know, like, I think you're right. I think it actually is temporary, but the temporariness of it, it has been sustained much longer than I think any of us anticipated. And it's just absurd.
00:11:57.580Yeah, Tim Walz is the most painful, cringeworthy politician in America. There's nothing that he does that doesn't make you embarrassed for him, including this. And of course, they made George Floyd a secular saint a long time ago. If you know anything about his background or what happened in this case, he's a very unlikely candidate for such sainthood. But it drove this insanity in American life where he woke up the next day and every elite institution in America was woke suddenly.
00:12:24.000Now, that tide has receded, but not entirely so. And then we also have this de-policing movement in cities across the country. That was an utter debacle, and not for privileged people, so-called, or most white people. It was a disaster for vulnerable minority communities.
00:12:39.960Now, that trend has also receded with, thank God, really seeing a major wave of declines
00:12:45.840in murder and violent crime throughout America, including in some places that you wouldn't
00:14:00.940And even if George Floyd had been the greatest man who'd ever lived,
00:14:04.420and had been killed, the consequences of that death would still not have been justified.
00:14:10.780The insistence that unarmed African-American men are constantly being killed by police,
00:14:16.780that's not true. And then the rejection of the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act and the
00:14:21.840words of the Declaration of Independence, which is really what wokeness is, would have been
00:14:27.260unjustified as well. You know, that clip you showed of Mayor Fry being booed and having to
00:14:34.220leave reminded me of when i covered occupy wall street and uh i was i was down there and they had
00:14:41.000john lewis the civil rights hero as their guest and john lewis was going to make a speech
00:14:46.660and someone started saying hang on a minute he's not better than us why should he be able to speak
00:14:54.040there's a long line of people who want to speak and so john lewis after about 30 minutes had to
00:15:00.020leave. They didn't let him speak. You can watch the video on YouTube. It's absolutely hilarious.
00:15:04.740I mean, they have this guy who really did go through actual state violence, actual apartheid,
00:15:10.900you know, an actual state that was rejecting the words of the declaration, who was violently
00:15:16.460attacked. And he's there to talk. And they say, no, no, no, no, we're far too egalitarian to let
00:15:21.520him speak, because that would imply that we're elevating him above us. And I think looking at
00:15:27.300But, Jacob Fry, first off, you see how silly crowds can be.
00:15:31.000But second, and the same is true of Tim Walsh, what I see in those videos, Megan, is Selma envy.
00:15:36.600I see people who did not have to go through the things that the actual civil rights heroes in this country's history had to endure, but kind of wish they had.
00:15:51.600And so they're going to try and inflict it on the rest of us when thankfully, mercifully, we don't live in that country anymore.
00:15:58.920You've got Sonny Hauston over at The View, Rich.
00:16:03.400She brings this up in the context of the fund that Todd Blanch is forming over at DOJ to compensate people who have been the victim of lawfare.
00:16:13.860And the left's big reaction to it has been, are you telling me that some people arrested on January 6th might get compensation out of this fund that hasn't been approved of Congress?
00:16:50.260But in any event, that was the issue being discussed on The View.
00:16:53.680And would you listen to where she took it in the context of this George Floyd debate?
00:16:59.440Put it into terms that I would hope that folks on the right would understand is I remember
00:17:03.240in 2020, Republicans were big mad that Kamala Harris tweeted out that people should give
00:17:08.520money to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which essentially offered cash bail for people who1.00
00:17:13.280participated in the Black Lives Matter protests. People were saying that's bailing out people who
00:17:17.680destroyed property, who may have assaulted police officers. It was a very limited destruction of
00:17:23.340property. It was a very significant rallying call on the right. And I do think it hurt Kamala
00:17:28.540Harris's chances in 2020 in that election. We saw with our own eyes what happened at the Capitol,
00:17:32.620but now they're going to get financial compensation. Make that make sense to me.
00:17:36.760I just think we need to make it clear that there can be no comparison between the Black Lives Matter movement and what we saw on January 6th.
00:24:13.600They would say it doesn't matter because all of those stores that they were looting and burning have insurance.
00:24:19.660and they would say in some cases why are you so opposed to it when you love the American
00:24:26.520revolution there's a very very big gap between this is like the American revolution and there
00:24:32.680wasn't much violence and I think this is a progressive advantage in our politics is they
00:24:38.360never ever stop litigating things that have happened you want to see a progressive do this
00:24:44.880Ask them about the 2000 election, Bush v. Gore. They're still adamant that Gore won that election, which he didn't. But they do it more than we do. And that line is going to be said over and over and over and over again. And unfortunately, a lot of people are going to believe it. It's not true.
00:25:00.940I think that was the most damage ever done in any riots in American history.
00:25:05.580It wasn't that it was the single riot that caused the most damage, because as Rich says, there were big city riots in the 60s.
00:25:12.880But I think collectively, the what you might call George Floyd riots, I think, did more damage than any other sort of moment or political season in the history of the United States.
00:25:25.920So not very limited, very limited destruction of property, as Sonny Hostin would say.
00:25:32.160No, it wasn't. And it's again, it's you said this at the beginning, there's never been any
00:25:37.620accounting for what happened. You know, I wasn't involved in January 6. I was appalled by it. But
00:25:42.560I'm quite happy to sit here and say, yeah, that was really bad. I think there should have been
00:25:45.960more consequences. They will not apologize. They won't apologize for trying to defund the police.
00:25:52.480They've forgotten that they did that, which, by the way, mostly affects African-Americans and poor people.
00:25:56.900They won't apologize for trying to destroy our national creed, which they really did try to do by insisting that discrimination is good if it runs in one direction,
00:26:09.480by insisting there's been no change in America since the 1860s, by pretending that the average cop is going out there with the hope of killing or hurting minorities.
00:26:19.340They won't apologize for egging on, and they did that as well, the rioters, and they won't
00:26:25.080apologize for destroying faith in public health, which they did, if you remember, by saying,
00:26:31.340stay in your home, stay in your home, stay in your home, stay in your homes.
00:26:33.620Oh, but actually, if you want to go out and riot, that's fine, because it's more of a
00:28:36.680They knocked the drink over and put a fist in the air.
00:28:39.240We all saw the videos, too, of them making people say BLM.
00:28:42.380Say it. Say it. You know, the harassment. I know we're spending a lot of time on Sonny Hostin, Rich, but this is a leftist narrative that we cannot let stand. The BLM riots were terror. It was domestic terror that was unleashed on the streets of America for months. Not in all cases. I personally watched a BLM demonstration on the Upper West Side that was totally peaceful. I did. It was fine. It was normal Americans who were upset about what they'd seen on that tape, and they got together and protested.
00:29:11.620That's fine. That's their right. That's as American as apple pie. But you and I both know that the vast majority of what we saw in the summer of George Floyd of Palooza was anti-American. It was riotous. It was criminal. It was illegal. It was harassing. It was burning. It was looting. And it was setting black people up for more death and murder, which has been documented.
00:29:31.500Spent two minutes talking to Heather McDonald. She can walk you through precinct by precinct what happened with policing and what happened in poor black neighborhoods as a result of the drawback.0.97
00:29:40.420We've interviewed people on this show, black members of these communities who saw crime skyrocket as a result of the cops pulling back.
00:29:49.400And she, Sonny Hauston, who might be whiter than I am in attitude, et cetera.
00:37:42.200To me, this would make more sense, Charlie, if it were like Abigail Spanberger, who has ruined Virginia in just a matter of a couple of months and has already terrible poll numbers as a result of going far left, which she's far more radical than she led the Commonwealth voters to believe.
00:37:59.380But like New Jersey, Mikey Sherrill was part of that same little trio that got elected in the statehouse races last election cycle.0.94
00:38:08.780And she also promised to be more moderate.
00:38:12.160You remember, she was in a very tight race there with the Republican.
00:38:15.380So I don't totally understand what she's doing.
00:38:18.800Let me just give you a little soundbite of her along with Senator Andy Kim together on site there before the alleged pepper spray incident.0.99
00:38:28.920This type of facility shows exactly why we should not have private mass detention facilities.
00:38:33.800They were raising not just concerns about the conditions, but about how they are intentionally not being given access to the courts, that this is a farce of a system.
00:38:48.080The distinction that I have drawn right from the beginning of this is between people who have specific criticisms, which is fine, this is a free country, and people who don't believe in the enforcement of law at all and or are trying to block it, which is, I think, what we saw in Minnesota.
00:39:05.820I'm happy to talk to people about what our immigration policy should be or how ICE should
00:39:11.620behave. But if you are of the view that ICE is per se illegitimate because all immigration
00:39:16.000enforcement is illegitimate, and you're going to try to kick out ICE from your locality,
00:39:23.140then we don't have much to talk about because you are repudiating our constitutional order.
00:39:30.220Now, I don't think that Andy Kim is doing that. I do think that he went down there to get
00:39:34.840pepper sprayed. And I think this is a growing problem. This is true on the right as well. This
00:39:38.980is not purely a Democrat problem of politicians behaving more like activists, preferring to be
00:39:45.520activists, forgetting that they are lawmakers, and they are part of the machinery and ought to use
00:39:53.140their influence within it. So I think that distinction has to be drawn. You know, Rich
00:40:00.540mentioned these complaints that people are moved around across the country. That's a perfect,1.00
00:40:05.140it sounds a bit specific, but that's a perfect example of how silly some of these objections0.91
00:40:11.600have become. It might sound to people as if that's somehow sinister. ICE is a federal organization.
00:40:18.520Immigration is a federal question. Of course, people are moved around the country. I live in
00:40:23.180Florida. I file my business taxes in Utah. Where was Timothy McVeigh sent after he was in Colorado?
00:40:28.900this is how the federal government works it moves people around there's nothing sinister about that
00:40:34.360and the reason i bring that up is just because it's another good example they did it with carl
00:40:38.400rittenhouse as well by the way he crossed state lines as if people aren't allowed to do that
00:40:42.000this is another good example um of how what should be quite a straightforward policy debate
00:40:48.400which again i'm open to uh is is elevated up into something that it's simply not and then you end up
00:40:55.400with ICE being cast as the Nazis, when they're a federal law enforcement agency that is enforcing
00:41:02.940a federal law that's been on the books for a very long time, and that by all accounts was ratified
00:41:08.300pretty emphatically in 2024, where immigration was a huge issue. So I just find it so difficult
00:41:15.160to talk to people in the Andy Kim mode about this topic, because they're not really complaining
00:41:21.920about the specifics they're rejecting the very notion of immigration enforcement per se and once
00:41:27.660they do that i just don't have much to say back yeah so the and and the irony is rich they kind
00:41:33.120of won this fight they can't unfortunately they they already won this i had greg bovino on the
00:41:39.720program um just a couple weeks ago and he was he's the ousted uh top one of the top dogs at customs
00:41:47.360and Border Patrol and he protection. And he was saying there's really no question that the Hohman
00:41:53.840and I love Tom Hohman, but he's definitely representing more of the worst, not just first,
00:42:01.260but kind of worst only policy that the Trump administration has retreated to in the wake of
00:42:06.020the PR debacle in Minneapolis. Those crazy blue haired ladies got their way. You know, Trump did1.00
00:42:11.800take his foot off the accelerator. I get why his poll numbers were precipitously falling. The public
00:42:17.080did not approve of what they were seeing, the death of Alex Preddy and the other woman and
00:42:22.620enabling media and so on, all just created a political firestorm for the president.
00:42:26.780And we've eased up. So like, I'm not sure what the Democrats are doing other than
00:42:31.400they need another hit off the needle. It felt so good.
00:42:34.320Yeah, I think there are two things. One, the Holman approach, as I understand it,
00:42:37.820in theory would be you let up on the very visible presence in cities and picking people up
00:42:44.400in a public way, which is kind of what Bovino was involved in. Let's kind of scare everyone
00:42:49.780and get a lot of legal immigrants to go home. There's something to be said for that approach1.00
00:42:52.980as well. But Holman also wanted worksite enforcement, major workplace enforcement.
00:42:58.660He's been telling people at events and privately, this is coming. It hasn't come yet. So I think
00:43:04.500his approach would be a sounder one if you're actually doing it. But we haven't seen that in
00:43:09.100part because Trump's ambiguous at best about worksite enforcement. And then two, what Democrats
00:43:14.380are up to, the end of the day, they just consider immigration enforcement illegitimate. So you see
00:43:18.960this cascade where they oppose the public operation in Minneapolis, that ends. Then they
00:43:25.800oppose the detention. We know nothing about how these people were picked up. It doesn't matter
00:43:29.620to them. They're just being detained, and that's wrong. And then if they could, again, they'd work
00:43:33.640their way all the way down to, let's not enforce the border, and they'd protest that as well,
00:43:37.840because they don't consider it illegitimate.
00:43:39.520I think they don't consider it illegitimate,
00:43:41.480and this is an underestimated aspect of politics.
00:43:44.840People do things, by and large, shockingly,
00:43:48.020because they think it's the right thing,
00:43:49.780and they think it is moral to let anyone
00:43:52.820who comes in the country and claims asylum
00:51:18.380I don't think that's the reaction of Democrats to her.
00:51:20.720She's leading the pollings very early.
00:51:22.200That's probably name ID. But then you run down the other possibilities. You're like, are any of these people giant killers themselves? No. So I think it's it's the chance for winning nomination is not zero. I bet on the field rather than her. But she's going to give it a college try. And for her purposes, she should.
00:51:39.140uh there's news about aoc today which we'll talk about in a minute but first we take a break more
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00:52:55.420All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out?
00:52:57.940Brazil's lime cheesecake started bright, didn't let up.
00:53:00.380Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the standout in the box.
00:53:03.560But if we're talking decadent performance, that's all France.
00:53:06.380Chocolate creme brulee had the richest finishes.
00:53:08.780Canadian fireworks really showed up big too.
00:56:01.280is that we want to make sure that we never get to that point.
00:56:04.920And we want to make sure that we are moving in all of our economic research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for that question to even arise.
00:56:32.260AOC takes more steps toward a 2028 run.1.00
00:56:36.180Democratic operatives expect that she would easily raise $100 million or more just from small dollar donors, mobilize many supporters of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders' past campaigns, and command attention, as few other candidates could.0.88
00:56:49.500She has launched a national tour in recent weeks without calling it that.
00:56:55.000Just in May, she's rallied voters in Philadelphia for a left-wing congressional candidate in a competitive primary.
00:57:00.880She's spoken at a rally in Montgomery, Alabama, about voting rights.
00:57:04.400She's addressed the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta with Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock.
00:57:10.040She met with Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.'s daughter at the King Center in Atlanta to talk about data center and voting rights.
00:57:16.880She's visited the Morehouse School of Medicine to discuss black maternal health.
00:57:21.340She's rolled out several endorsements in races across the country.
00:57:24.000None of this, I don't hear, you know what I don't hear in here?
01:02:38.420There's nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy.
01:02:43.280And I, for one, am tired of hearing about how a two-bit union buster thinks of himself as more of a patriot
01:02:52.400than the woman who fights every single day to lift working people out from under the boots to breathe,
01:03:01.080traveling on our way of life that's that's way worse i mean that that that's that's bordering
01:03:10.480on parody you know we've talked about this one of the reasons is that it's such a great it's
01:03:15.820the black preacher sort of tone is so great i just could listen to it all day
01:03:21.080i just i just of course she wants to sound like that it's wonderful
01:03:24.320Yes. Yes. If you had the actual Raphael, we're not doing it. Fine. That's cool. But here she is. Remember, she was she was campaigning. Was it Jamal Bowman when he was in trouble? And she went and she campaigned for him. And she looked like a lunatic. This is when she whipped her hair out of the bun. Here, watch.
01:09:16.560The great Jim Garrity has a column at National Review about this right now. I believe it was
01:09:22.360broken by Fox News Digital late last week. And the headline is that Graham Plattner has sparked
01:09:29.300outrage again as he appears to mock this wounded soldier, saying he's a dumb motherfucker who1.00
01:09:36.900didn't deserve to live. Quoting here, at least his stupidity and fat ass wheezing are available for1.00
01:09:43.720all future infantrymen to witness and hold in contempt. Poor marksmanship on the Taliban's1.00
01:09:49.020part is the only reason this mouth breather made it home. He managed to make every possible1.00
01:09:53.700shit decision when it comes to small unit combat. So the headline is he didn't deserve to live.1.00
01:10:04.880And then it appears that he, Graham Plattner, did not respond at first when asked outside of
01:10:11.780a market near his home whether he regrets making the post. Let's see. Did not respond.
01:10:19.020And it doesn't look like he is feeling too remorseful about it because he still, as far as I can tell, has not responded, has not apologized, and is just sort of standing by saying that a fellow serviceman who risked his life for us in Afghanistan honorably and received a Purple Heart for his four bullet wounds deserved it and actually didn't deserve to live, and that he's a dumb motherfucker.0.99
01:14:04.920For expanding the Supreme Court, he's for making Puerto Rico and D.C. a state.
01:14:11.400So before our friends up in Maine fall in love with his anti-war stance, which I know a lot of Republicans are feeling, yours truly included, let's not get so blind on his radical leftist nature as to fall in love with him.
01:14:26.020I'm sure there's a lot of positions that our friends across the aisle may share with us on one issue or another, certainly if you're an independent like I am.
01:14:33.620But good God, he you know, there's no expanding the Supreme Court and there's definitely no making Puerto Rico and D.C. states.
01:14:39.500or the Republicans will never win an election ever again.
01:14:43.620That blog has had a lot of things on it.
01:14:45.860One of the most offensive was somebody posted,1.00
01:14:48.240white people aren't as racist or stupid as Trump thinks.1.00
01:14:51.800And his response was, living in white rural America,1.00
01:14:54.480I'm afraid to tell you, they actually are.
01:14:57.400And I mean, there's tons of really offensive stuff on here.0.90
01:15:00.020He's ripping on black people and whatever.0.92
01:15:03.780But that's Graham Plattner, who's again, up eight.
01:15:07.200And speaking of Democrats who have stepped in it over the weekend, intentionally or not, Tom Steyer is running for L.A. mayor next to Spencer Pratt, who should be winning and sorry, governor.
01:15:22.840And next to next to our friend Steve Hilton, who should be winning.0.70
01:15:28.160And he decided to weigh in on the transgender debate on the podcast of the very angry lady with the blonde hair.0.79
01:15:35.460I can never remember her name, but he went on her podcast and the subject of trans athletes comes up.
01:15:42.140He's from California. Keep in mind, just this past weekend, there is one of the most infamous trans athletes competed in track and field.
01:15:50.540This is a boy who looks like a girl now because he's, you know, posing as one with the long blonde hair.0.57
01:15:56.260And he's crushing all these women in the high jump and the long jump and the triple jump by like several inches and several feet, depending on the event.
01:16:06.200Now, the accommodation that Gavin Newsom has come up with for these female athletes, the actual female athletes, is that if they're, you know, first, but for the presence of this boy, they get to stand on the podium with him.
01:16:19.600They can stand up there next to the boy posing as the girl and they both get a first place medal.0.56
01:17:17.640But and, you know, as someone who played sports my whole life and love sports and love playing sports, they're more important things than whether you start on your high school basketball team.
01:17:28.760And that is standing up for people who are under threat of death.
01:17:33.040Oh, my God. Shame on you, Tom Steyer. Shame on you. Rich's head is like in his chest right now.
01:17:39.460This is so outrageous that these young girls have to endanger themselves.
01:17:44.320I mean, literally, I refer to the girl in Lowell, Massachusetts on the field hockey field who got all of her teeth knocked out.
01:17:53.440Some of them could barely go on by a boy wielding a field hockey stick and inadvertently smashing it in her face with the force that a boy who's in full boy puberty with all of his testosterone coming in can do.
01:18:05.400That that has to happen because it's the boy who is in danger, according to Tom Steyer.
01:18:11.760It's the boy who is experiencing stress and vulnerability.
01:18:39.680That soundbite is so wrong on every level, including, as you guys at National Review know, because you've been reporting on it, and was it Audrey Fahlberg?1.00
01:19:09.020It was it was Maddie Kearns who said the only long term study done on transsexuals like post surgery.
01:19:16.760So like they've done the crossover to see if like did having the procedures make them less suicidal, you know, more well.
01:19:26.080It was a 2011 Swedish study and it found overall mortality for these people was higher, was higher than for those who remain in their biological sex.
01:19:37.720Well, Steyer is a class enemy because he's a billionaire. So he's pandering and desperate clawing to get into one of the top slots in that gubernatorial primary. But you're right. This answer has everything terrible in it, beginning with his go-to argument for everything that if you don't bend to the trans agenda, you are causing trans people to die because they're going to commit suicide.
01:20:00.120Now, we've heard it mostly with regard to so-called gender reassignment surgery, but0.96
01:20:04.620here we are if this guy is not on the podium with the girls, he's going to commit suicide.0.95
01:23:32.980On page 195 of the cash report, it says,
01:23:35.340There is no evidence that gender-affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
01:23:43.840What I think that is referring to is there is no evidence in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide.0.81
01:23:52.580And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare.
01:23:56.800And we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them.
01:24:04.540However, there are multiple studies, long term longitudinal studies that do show that there is a reduction in suicidality, which I think is a is a positive outcome to this treatment.
01:24:18.480Suicidality. So she's saying it'll reduce the amount that they want to kill themselves.
01:24:22.780OK, there's actually not data to support that either.
01:24:25.700Like this is this is a lie that continues to be pushed on us.0.60
01:24:28.400But as you point out, Charlie, even if it were true, and by the way, if the suicidality is caused by the fact that they're not allowed to transition, then why do we have an increased, to some level, thoughts of suicide by Ls and Gs, the lesbian and gay crowd, right?0.95
01:24:48.400Like they're not looking to transition. Could it be that just being in the LGBTQ rainbow coalition raises additional challenges that, you know, you may find stressful and there's no surgery that's going to solve it for you?0.74
01:25:01.980You might need actual therapy to address your issues. But as you point out, this cannot be a trump card on the sacrifice of girls and women's rights or children's safety and the protection by those of us who are over the age of 18 of their fertility, their right to sexual enjoyment when they get old enough to understand what that is, which is taken away from them when we castrate them at age 11 and 12 as loving but well-meaning parents when it comes to the medicalization.
01:25:30.960None of this should be a matter of choice for the parents or anybody else.
01:25:34.820It's the child's choice that he or she can hold on to and must make only, only when they reach the age of majority.
01:37:41.460Then we did find out from a truth social
01:37:43.500that he thinks that, quote, should be mandatory
01:37:46.460that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt,
01:37:51.180and Jordan should have to join the Abraham Accords0.92
01:37:56.200where they recognize Israel's right to exist
01:37:58.900and engage in diplomatic relations with Israel.
01:38:01.980And apparently that call didn't go over very well, as Axios' Barack Ravid, who's gotten scoop after scoop from the administration, reported that when Trump said it on the call with these people, quote, there was silence on the line and Trump joked and asked if they were still there.
01:38:16.860So I don't think they want these are Middle East Arab allies joining the Abraham Accords to be part of the settlement of this deal.
01:38:27.140He also said Iran should join. OK, good luck with it. I mean, good luck with that. Wow.1.00
01:39:27.800And then the maritime traffic through the strait, which has been under Iranian control, quote, would resume under joint Iranian and Omani oversight.
01:39:38.580Oman is the other country that has access, you know, is the border of Strait of Hormuz, those two.
01:39:49.600And then that would give them an additional 30 days to negotiate a final agreement.
01:39:53.420The second stage would address the nuclear issue and the long term status of the Strait of Hormuz.
01:39:59.560I'm just going to give you a little flavor of the reaction from the more hawkish Republican and Democrat thought leaders, politicians and so on here.
01:40:10.800Watch. I remember when we never used to negotiate with terrorists here, we negotiate with terrorists repeatedly, constantly.
01:40:17.840So when they're quote-unquote negotiating, they have no intention of living up to any aspect of any deal.
01:40:26.700Did I really prefer not making a deal and going back to combat operation?
01:40:31.000They will be empowered here as a result of a deal, and they will continue.0.81
01:40:35.080Where we're going to unfreeze Iranian assets and give them billions of dollars to be able to control proxies again.0.61
01:40:44.060Giving Iran more money, as he has said, will allow them to do things like fuel their terrorist proxies.0.75
01:40:50.980If the result of all of this is to be an Iranian regime still run by Islamists who chant death to America,0.62
01:40:58.940now receiving billions of dollars, being able to enrich uranium and develop nuclear weapons,0.87
01:41:06.180and having effective control over the Strait of Hormuz, that outcome would be a disastrous mistake.
01:41:14.060The details are still coming out, and I pray that the early reports are wrong.
01:41:32.140Two, we're running low on precision munitions.
01:41:35.920Three, the Gulf states aren't so sure we can protect them from Iranian retaliation.
01:41:40.160Now, I also think the Iranians don't particularly want to get bombed again, either. So I think both sides are ready for a deal. And then both sides are trying to avoid overbidding for a deal. I think we'll get a basic trade of the blockade, our blockade for an opening of the Strait of Hormuz in some form or another. And then and then you'll see what you can get on the nuclear.
01:42:04.240The problem Trump has is I think at the moment he seems more eager for a deal than the Iranians are, and the Iranians see that and sense that.
01:42:13.780And two, once the Iranians at the outset of the conflict claim de facto control of the strait and we couldn't or didn't or whatever take it back, then they have this enormous strategic chit that you have to negotiate over to get back before you even get to the nuclear stuff, which you consider most important.0.79
01:42:30.820So I think there'll be a deal and the devil will be in the details, especially on the nuclear side of it.0.63
01:42:40.360I'm not surprised to hear them objecting to our loosening the spigot on Iranian assets and funds, Charlie, because that's something that people who can't stand Iran, don't trust Iran and think Iran is going to launch some sort of nuke against Israel, etc., really don't want for them to be flush with cash.0.65
01:43:00.220And if they do have control over the strait at all, and we're loosening our restrictions on their cash, they're not going to like that. So does it go through?
01:43:11.120Well, I don't think that any of the people that you played clips from are going to persuade Trump. I think Trump's going to make his own decision, as he did going in.