Dems' ＂Democracy＂ Meltdown, Christians and Israel, and Abortion as Election Issue, with Victor Davis Hanson ｜ Ep. 762
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Summary
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) and Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D - TX) have a heated exchange about the solar system and the moon. Megyn explains what happened and why we need to elect a better candidate.
Transcript
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Could 2024 be the last election ever?
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That's a comment Vice President Kamala Harris agreed with on a podcast this week.
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And it's a sentiment we have seen echoed by all sorts of loons on the left.
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So, what really are the stakes of this election?
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Here with me now, the best person to ask that question of, Victor Davis Hanson.
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Victor is a senior fellow at the Stanford Hoover Institution.
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His new book, set to be released next up, is titled The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation.
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Victor, so good to see you again. How you doing?
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Okay, I'm just going to table Kamala Harris' warning for one second, because there's a better story to start with.
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Victor, you know this, and I think most of our audience knows this, but just,
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we get almost daily reminders that we are being represented by a field of idiots.
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Remember when you were a kid and you looked up to somebody who made it to the U.S. Congress?
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You used to think, like, that would require a certain level of intelligence, accomplishment, wisdom.
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She decided to weigh in on the eclipse and the solar system.
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And she went to the Booker T. Washington High School down in Houston.
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And decided to speak to those in front of her about how the moon is made up mostly of gases.
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A full moon is that complete rounded circle, which is made up mostly of gases.
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And that's why the question is why or how could we as humans live on the moon?
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Now, I confess prior to this dust up, I did not know exactly what the moon was made of.
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But I knew that it was solids and it was largely volcanic.
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And now Sheila Jackson Lee is trying to come out and cover herself by saying the following.
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Obviously, I misspoke and meant to say the sun.
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But as usual, Republicans are focused on stupid things.
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I don't know if we're talking about the same thing instead of stuff that really matters.
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So what she's trying to say, Victor, is that she meant to say the sun, that a full sun that
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is complete, a complete rounded circle, and that the sun is made up mostly of gases.
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And that's why the question is, how could we as humans live on the sun?
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Now, you tell me whether that makes it better or worse.
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Yeah, I don't think the problem with living down the sun is the gas.
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But it reminds me, do you remember maybe six years ago, Hank Johnson, he was another representative,
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and they were asking him about the Guam tsunami.
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Is the island in danger that if everybody went to one way on one side of the island to flee
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the big waves, then there would be too much weight on Guam, and it would flip over.
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And the expression on the general's face as he looked at him, he thought, okay, how do
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I answer this congressperson who thinks that you can flip an island over by too many people
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I mean, we don't elect people on their intellect or their experience.
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It's mostly tribalism and whether, you know, it's the House of Representatives has really
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I'm just saying that as I can remember the 1960s and 50s, at least people in the Democratic
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Party were pretty good, some of the House speakers.
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And you had people in the Senate like Everett Dirksen that give long, you know, lectures on
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We've declined in a lot of ways in the people we elect.
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Maybe it's too much money or maybe it's too much tribalism.
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But we're electing people on who they say they represent or what, you know, their tribe,
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That seems, that's a really bad idea in a multiracial democracy.
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Well, the problem is we're relying on these people to help us with entitlement reform so
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that we don't have Medicare and Social Security go bankrupt, to help us close up the southern
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border, which, you know, the president has maintained he absolutely has to have Congress's
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By the way, this woman went to Yale undergrad and UVA law school.
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OK, for those of you who still think these are esteemed institutions that somehow validate
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one's intelligence, think again, because here's more of Representative Sheila Jackson Lee on
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Today will be the closest distance that the moon has ever been in the last 20 years, which
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means that's why they will shut the light down because they will be close to the Earth.
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And Dr. Simmons, I didn't go too far away from the scientific explanation.
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So I was I was near a solar system is bigger than us, though.
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There are solar systems and there are systems that are smaller than the Earth.
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Still, we're in a solar system and we depend on the Earth, the moon and the sun.
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That is what creates the our desire for creativity, our music, our weather, our rain, our snow, our
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We have yet to know whether you can live on the moon.
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I want to be first in line to know how to live and to be able to survive on the moon.
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That's another planet which you're going to see shortly.
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Get out on the field like you're going to find your own space, your own heaven.
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Yeah, I mean, she thinks the Earth is a solar system as well, and that there are solar systems
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A bunch of, I don't know, nine or ten planets crammed inside the Earth.
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Also completely misdescribed what actually was happening with the eclipse, with the moon's
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And I guess that makes sense when she thinks it's a planet.
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And everybody thinks that when we engineer, we engineered the applications this year.
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So the incoming class at Stanford is 21% white of 9% white males.
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I just picked that figure out because that's the one group that falls so far below their
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They're only one-third or one-fourth their demographic in the general population.
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So when you start engineering these classes, you think that's the end of it.
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But you talk to faculty or you're a faculty member and you can see what happens.
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Because then you have to change the course content or you have to add new courses or you
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have to do what Yale does where you give 80% of the people A's.
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And if you don't do it, you come under the gaze of the DEI conglomerate.
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And then they say you're systematically grading in a way that reflects bias or racism or whatever.
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And so our whole society, if we're not going to have any standards of meritocracy and we're
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going to adjudicate what a person says by their greater claims of victimization.
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She says that the Republicans are glomming on to me.
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And she should say, I don't care if they glomm on to me or right.
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I'm going to be accurate when I try to inspire young people about the world beyond Earth.
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Her explanation or clarification makes it worse.
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It's not a problem limited to the left in Congress, in the House of Representatives.
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But boy, oh boy, there are a lot of folks over in that far left part of the caucus that you'd never want to have dinner with.
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Because how could you make intelligent conversation?
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Hank Johnson got the record by saying that a whole island didn't flip over when too many people crowd on one side.
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Okay, so that's the most disturbing thing in the news today.
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Let's talk about abortion because, boy, did that burst onto the scene in a renewed way yesterday.
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This is a bad, bad event for the Republican Party and for Donald Trump, what happened in Arizona.
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And I understand why it happened and that they will likely fix it, I think, in Arizona, though I'm not 100% sure.
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But this is going to be so exploited by the Democrats from now to Election Day, like coming to a state near you.
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And it's already a problematic issue for Republicans going into 2024.
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So you tell me what you think, where the court in Arizona basically found that an attempt to create a 15-week abortion ban in Arizona a couple years ago did not replace an earlier law from 1850-something that said all abortions are illegal unless necessary to save the life of the mother.
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That's the only exception, and therefore it basically resurrected that law and let that be the standing law in the wake of Roe falling.
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And now you've got everybody cashing in on this on the Democratic side.
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I mean, they were already primed to make this the issue driving votes.
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Right now, Arizona has a Democratic governor, and both chambers of the House there are controlled by Republicans.
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But they're putting this on the ballot in November, and already many of these swing states are looking, the Democrats in the swing states, to make this an issue like gay marriage, which kept George W. Bush in the White House for a second term.
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Karl Rove made sure that there was an initiative on the ballots back then that drove the more conservative, evangelical, and black voters to the polls for George W. Bush in numbers sufficient to get him reelected.
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And that's what they're going to try to do again with abortion.
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And abortion has been driving people to the polls over the past several terms since Roe fell.
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So what do you make of this decision in Arizona and its likely impact?
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I think Trump had a pretty good line or position that it's now up to the states, and each state has their own culture.
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I don't think nationalizing the issue is going to be a winning argument for the Republicans.
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And so if he says it's up for the states and we have a tripartite government, legislative, executive, judicial, all Trump has to say are candidates.
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And we believe that it's up to the states, legislatures, to reflect the will of the state.
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Okay, but wait, let me jump in and ask you something.
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But the problem that he's going to be facing is this issue, if on the ballot in November, will drive all the Democrats to turn out.
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And so those Democrats will not only vote for their local officials, they're going to vote up and down the line for their U.S. senator, for their congressman, and for president.
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And the bigger the Democratic turnout, the worse it is for the Republicans.
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It is, but they're in a position where some of the members of the party went to the eight-week, and this whole chain of reaction, they demagogued the issue.
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So at this late hour, all they have to say is, we welcome people to vote on it.
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Whatever you want to do, vote, but it's up to you and the state, and we, as Republicans, believe that you have the right to do.
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That's about the best fallback position you can have.
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And if I was Trump, I wouldn't weigh in on any particular week, and I think he did a really smart thing.
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I know Mike Pence got angry at him and stuff, but you go to the eight—if you let people do the eight-week ban, you're going to lose.
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You're going to lose a lot of elections, and they know that.
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And so they're in a bind now, and the best thing that could happen would be the court would be overruled or redefine its ruling before the election.
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Yes, that's what he said, or they have to somehow make clear.
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Maybe the Republican legislature will vote on a reasonable solution that would be signed by a Democratic governor, though she has no incentive to.
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But right now, abortion rights groups said last week, quoting here, that they have enough signatures to put an abortion access ballot initiative up for a vote this November.
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I mean, to my point, this is what they're going to do.
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They don't want the governor to sign any sort of a law.
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Trump was very—you know, for all of the issues that people criticized him on, this was an issue that he was pretty adroit on.
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In 2016, in that debate with Hillary, he really kind of—and you remember, he drummed in the idea that the Democratic Party is abortion on demand all the way up to the point of birth.
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And he said it, you know, and he got very graphic about that.
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And there's only two positions for the Republicans if they're going to answer.
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And two is that you, for humanitarian reasons, you don't allow people to have abortions that involves infanticide.
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And it's going to get important, as you point out, because the Democratic Party is not going to run on Afghanistan, the border, Gaza, inflation, crime, energy.
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So it's going to be January 6th, Donald Trump in jail and abortion.
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And then the other thing they're going to do, and we know that's going to happen, it's already happening.
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They're going to have Obrador, who already said he wanted $20 billion, and he's going to be terrified of a Trump presidency.
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So he's going to start on his side of the border, clamping down.
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And then we're going to have the student loan forgiveness.
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Then we're going to have the—beg the Saudis, beg the Venezuelans, take more out of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to get oil down.
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And we'll probably get a Federal Reserve effort, no matter what the inflation is, to lower interest rates.
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And that's all the—and then we're going to have—turn the judiciary loose on Donald Trump.
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But this decision, of course, plays right into their game plan, right, of highlighting the issue of abortion in the most extreme way, reverting back to an 1864 law.
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And then you've got comments like this, which are already making the rounds and will undoubtedly turn into a campaign ad very soon.
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Mark Simone was on Larry Kudlow's show on Fox and made the following comment, which has already set the left on fire, Sot 17.
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If you had to travel to another state to get an abortion, it's not the worst thing in the world.
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Hopefully, this is a very rare occurrence in your life.
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Buying a bus ticket to go somewhere to get it is not the worst thing in the world.
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I mean, it doesn't take a political strategist to understand what's going to be done with that.
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Yeah, though, I don't think, you know, I like Mark Simone, but I don't think he's going to be considered a spokesperson for.
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And I like Mark too, but I'm just saying it'll get used.
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But I think they need to, you know, they really need part of the problem with the Republican.
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It's not just that people say things that are not helpful to what they're trying to explain, but they don't they don't broadcast or they don't say what the left is saying.
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So, for example, if you're in Dearborn and you have a president of the United States who is pandering to 250,000 voters and they've got a guy up on stage, this constituency, and he's quoting chapter and verse.
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Ayatollah Khomeini and then how awful and horrible the United States.
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And then people are interrupting him in this constituency, screaming death to America.
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And Kareem Jean-Pierre doesn't want to address that.
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Then that that's a very powerful thing that Republicans could focus on, because it shows you that no one on the left is coming up to defend their own country.
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When you say death to America, you're talking about Americans.
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They should be saying this constituency is either yelling or they're not stopping members of their constituency that they want to kill other Americans when you say death to America.
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I'm going to play that in one minute, and I definitely want to get your opinion on it.
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But before I leave the abortion question, to your point, the Republicans really like you can't highlight.
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Mark said what he said, and it's how many people feel like.
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So what? Get on a bus. That's the way democracy works.
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California is not the same as Texas or Mississippi, and that's just the way it was founded.
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We have these little experiments going on in every state where the laws are different.
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But it sounds somewhat callous, sounds somewhat like kind of head in the clouds about what women are dealing with.
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On the other hand, are the extreme Dems on this issue, which will not get played on loop on channels like CNN.
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They should be able to get an abortion if they want to.
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Where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she is about to give a birth.
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Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?
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Do you believe that a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth?
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Look, I think that that happens very, very rarely.
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But at the end of the day, I believe that the decision over abortion belongs to a woman and a physician.
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I wouldn't have been able to do this without employing a woman's right to choose.
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And I have all of this, all of it, because, because, because I was allowed bodily autonomy at 15.
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Well, those last three for the listening audience were Tish James.
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Michelle Williams, the actress at her, I don't know if that was the Academy Awards, but an acceptance speech.
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And Busy Phillips was the last one who, not for nothing, but last week was celebrating Christine Blasey Ford at the release of her book and thanking her for her bravery and so on.
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But that's a major piece of the Democratic Party, women who are proud of their abortions.
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They love aborting babies all the way through the ninth month.
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So, you showed the Mark Simone clip, but if the Republicans were to juxtapose with the clips you just showed from this abortion on demand, I think most people would find that much more disturbing than even what he said.
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And it depends, it's up to the Republicans whether they want to play by the McCain and Romney, George Bush, Marcus of Queensbury rules, or they want to go back to Lee Outwater when George H.W. Bush ran the Willie Horton and the Boston Dirty Harbor, the tank ad, and he destroyed Dukakis.
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And after they did that, George Bush and all the Republicans said, we never want to do that again.
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And they lost seven out of the last eight popular votes.
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They haven't won 51% of the presidential popular vote since 1988.
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And so, it's up to them to see what they're going to do.
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And I'm not arguing for a dirty campaign, but given whom they're up against, I don't think Romneyism works anymore, Doleism or Bushism or McCainism.
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He made some mistakes in 2020, and there were other issues involved.
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But I don't think that he's going to play by the Marcus of Queensbury rules.
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So, the clips that you showed, if the Democrats go down the abortion, I think you're going to see a lot of Republicans showing things like that.
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And I think they're going to be very effective.
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So, Dearborn, Michigan, this is in the wake of everything that's happening in Israel, which we're going to talk about.
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But you've got this gathering at which the chant, Death to America, broke out.
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And as far as I can tell, absolutely nothing's been done about it, said about it.
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And the White House seems utterly disinterested in it.
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Why don't we just focus more on Israel and not talk so much about America?
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Because it's the United States government that provides the funds for all of the atrocities that we just heard about.
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And this is why Imam Khomeini, who declared the International Day of Quds,
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this is why he would say to pour all of your chants and all of your shouts upon the head of America.
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we live in one of the rottenest countries that has ever existed on this earth.
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From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
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The man leading that, those remarks, was Tarek Bazi, per Fox News, a Michigan-based activist associated with the Hadi Institute.
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Their website says their focus is youth education and the raising of productive, positive, and proud Muslims.
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The best way to accomplish this is to teach by example.
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By example, death to America, we're the problem, mention the Ayatollah there.
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Yeah, I mean, he begs the question, why stay here?
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If he says it's the most rottenest country, he's going to quote the arch hostage taker of all time, Khomeini.
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Why do people from the Middle East that feel that way, why do they come over and why do we let them in?
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I think they're very afraid, though, because I think they feel there's going to be, they have a rendezvous with a reckoning.
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Because I think the American people, when they see the Manhattan Bridge shut down or the Golden Gate Bridge shut down during commuter traffic,
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or they see Easter and Christmas services disrupted in churches,
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or they see the Lincoln Memorial or a Veterans Cemetery in Los Angeles defaced,
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or they see Jews running into a library for their life,
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And I think the Biden administration is really playing this wrong.
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They're so obsessed on this mythical 250,000 people that they are alienating.
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If Donald Trump is going to be elected, first of all, they're going to have a ban on not just Muslim countries,
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but Venezuela and probably Cuba, as they did in North Korea, but also Gaza and the West Bank and Syria,
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And then anybody who's on a student visa and breaks the law, and many of them have,
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will probably be just politely, they're not going to deport them.
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They're just going to say your visa is no longer valid.
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We suggest you go before you're subject to arrest.
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all of this is based on the idea there's not going to be any repercussions.
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And we're starting to already see that the radical Palestinians that were Pomona College or Vanderbilt,
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all it takes is just a smidgen of vertebrae on the back of a college president.
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When that college president Pomona said, well, I've got 10 minutes, it's your choice.
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If you want to keep doing this, those of you who are not students at Pomona, you get off the campus,
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and if you break the law, you'll deal with law enforcement.
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Those of you who are, in 10 minutes, you're going to be expelled or suspended.
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These people who are protesting feel they have a blank check,
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they have radical majority support, and that's not true.
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And I think people are finally just saying, you know,
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we put people in prison that went into the Capitol,
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and we have people going into the Senate restaurant.
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We had Representative Tlaib leading a demonstration that was disrupting right in the rotunda.
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And we have broken up Senate hearings with these protesters,
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and we're going to apply the same rules that we did to the January 6th people.
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And if a politician or president were to do that, and I think that may happen,
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We had the FBI investigating parents literally for speaking too long at the microphone
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at their school board meetings or for not putting on their mask
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to tell teachers and school board members that they were unhappy with COVID policies
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This guy and all the people in Dearborn chanting death to America doesn't look like there's anything,
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or at least here's what Corrine Jean-Pierre had to say about it when asked in SOT 14.
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Is the president at all concerned that Dearborn is becoming,
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is facing a risk of becoming a hotbed of any sort of homegrown threats?
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I don't have any intelligence to share with you on that.
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Obviously, that's something that we're always very vigilant about,
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but don't have any national intelligence to share with you.
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I don't have any intelligence to share with you on that.
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All she had to say is that we deplore anybody who is on American soil
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One good thing about all of this, Megan, it's really dispelled all of these myths.
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Myth number one was you can hate Israel, but you're not anti-Semitic.
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When you see Jewish students that are chased down or Jews on the street,
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nobody asks them whether they're for Israel or not.
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And if you're, these people who are demonstrating do not just dislike Israel,
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they dislike Jews and they're not shy about it.
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And number two is we've always told, well, the Hamas doesn't represent the people of Gaza.
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But every single demonstration, they mouth, basically the Hamas charter polls show that
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Hamas has about 74 or 75% of support on the West Bank.
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And then the third myth is the people who are protesting on behalf of Hamas or on behalf of Gaza
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are very patriotic Americans and they love this country.
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And I think a lot of them are not even American citizens.
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They're here on visas or work or student visas.
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And I think people, I think they've really hurt their cause.
00:31:29.580
And I think a lot of people are going to wise up because you can't continue to allow this group
00:31:41.860
Just a quick look at Dearborn, Michigan, a couple months ago in the protest there, Victor,
00:31:46.360
to give you and the audience a better sense for what's happening.
00:31:49.060
What I'm sure these people would just listen to were in this mass of folks who took to
00:32:02.020
It's thousands, thousands of people on the streets of Dearborn with Palestinian flags.
00:32:11.240
That's not, you know, that's not over there in Gaza.
00:32:14.520
And that the policy that the White House is now shifting to seems to be giving them exactly
00:32:22.260
Right now, Joe Biden's calling for a unilateral declaration of a ceasefire by Israel, six to
00:32:30.380
You don't have to give us back what I understand are now our last five living Americans over
00:32:36.560
there who have been taken hostage, 33 dead right from the beginning.
00:32:49.760
Let, you know, the humanitarian aid go through and absolutely no conditions.
00:32:54.900
Yeah, they are, but I'm not sure they're going to get what they want in November.
00:33:00.840
I still think most Americans, when I look at the polls, about 65 percent support Israel
00:33:06.000
and about 35 percent, you could say, support Hamas.
00:33:10.360
And when you look at the Jewish community, it's not 250,000 voters.
00:33:15.780
It's probably nine million citizens and probably four to five million voters.
00:33:21.300
And I understand that a lot of them have died, the majority are diehard Democrats, but I think
00:33:29.340
And that could be 30 or 40 percent of the Jewish donor class and voters.
00:33:34.320
It may not make a difference to New York and California, but it may make a difference in
00:33:44.000
And so, I mean, remember, we've got to keep things in context.
00:33:48.400
This is a Democratic state, and it is an incumbent president, and they are running either neck
00:33:57.260
and neck or behind, and they're so desperate that they're risking alienating the traditional
00:34:03.200
base of the Jewish American base of their party to pander to 250,000 votes.
00:34:10.940
I think they're absolutely desperate, and they're willing, but this administration is
00:34:18.420
They're going to basically betray our strongest ally in the Middle East, and they're trying,
00:34:23.540
remember their use, when we were growing up, at least my generation, there was the ugly
00:34:27.880
The left said, we always intervened, and the Dominican Republic.
00:34:38.540
We're overtly trying to overthrow the elected government of Israel and interfering their internal
00:34:46.340
And so they are really doing things that I think are going to boomerang in November.
00:34:53.440
This administration is so desperate, whether it's on abortion or pandering to radical Arab
00:35:09.860
Kamala Harris, similar to Blinken, had this warning for the Israelis last week.
00:35:15.320
And sure enough, now we get this announcement that Israel, for now, is not going into Rafa,
00:35:24.220
And we have made clear, and the president has made clear, of course, that we will support
00:35:29.380
and make sure that Israel is never left without an ability to defend itself.
00:35:35.280
At the same time, if there are not changes to their approach, it is very likely we're going
00:35:49.740
But if come June or July, they announce they're cutting off 155-millimeter shells or javelins
00:35:57.780
or replacement Patriot missiles, and they get into a big war with Hezbollah, there's going
00:36:08.940
And I think it's not a wise thing to betray Israel after what happened on October 7.
00:36:15.480
And we know what's going to happen if they can't go back into Gaza.
00:36:20.760
We're going to hear from Hamas very soon that they won.
00:36:23.940
And they're going to say that on the greatest days, we killed more Jews than any day since
00:36:32.460
And we're going to come back stronger than ever.
00:36:35.780
And there's 100,000 Jews along the Lebanese border, and they're homeless.
00:36:46.440
And unless they're allowed to finish the job, it's going to be a victory for Hamas.
00:36:50.860
And that's a defeat, not just for Israel, for us too.
00:36:54.440
Because Hamas, as we saw from their satellites in Dearborn, they're antithetical to the whole
00:37:02.500
And, you know, there has to be a lot of social censor for anybody who gets up in a podium
00:37:13.120
And then the president of the United States and his administration are pandering to such
00:37:17.840
a degree that they can't even condemn that whole movement.
00:37:24.980
Again, I say, like, oh, parents had the FBI sicced on them at a church out in California
00:37:31.480
for not wearing their masks during the COVID pandemic when they went to worship at school
00:37:43.640
Uh, let me take a quick break and then we'll come right back and we'll talk about her, her
00:37:48.100
warning, speaking of Kamala Harris, about basically democracy's over.
00:37:51.900
If you don't reelect her and her boss, Joe Biden, stand by.
00:37:59.140
One of the things that's happening in our country right now with respect to this conflict,
00:38:02.960
Israel, Palestine, Hamas, as, um, yes, these lefties who we just saw on Dearborn are marching,
00:38:10.840
saying things like death to America, but also on the right, there's a considerable growing,
00:38:18.020
dare I say, faction that is making the case that Israel's gone too far or that this is
00:38:27.420
not America's interests to be supporting Israel in this conflict at all.
00:38:32.880
And even in some cases, making the case that Christians should not be in favor of America's
00:38:39.940
support for Israel here, given the death toll and given its residual effects on Christians
00:38:48.520
And if you go online for two minutes, you'll see this debate breaking out within the Republican
00:38:53.920
party about whether this is, whether we have any proper role in this conflict, whether it's
00:39:01.360
We're not, obviously, nobody's calling for our boots to be on the ground, including Israel,
00:39:04.520
Israel. But the support that we're giving, is it appropriate? Should we get out? And is there some
00:39:14.120
I think a lot of it's based on ignorance. I really do, because if anybody, I've been to Israel a lot
00:39:20.220
in the West Bank, and if anybody goes to, say, Bethlehem, or they go into Lebanon, what's happening all
00:39:27.020
over the Middle East, Megan, is Christians are being ethnically cleansed. If you look at the population,
00:39:33.880
I think, of Bethlehem in the late 90s, I went there as early as the 70s. It was 80, there were 70 or 80%
00:39:43.580
Christian. It's down to about 10 or 20%. And the same is true of villages in Lebanon. And so, Christians
00:39:51.400
themselves, not their spokesmen who have to... The problem we have when we have Christians in
00:39:57.220
the Middle East that are living in Gaza, and there's not many, they've been ethnically cleansed
00:40:02.940
from Gaza, most of them. But if they're speaking in Syria, or they're speaking in the Palestinian
00:40:10.100
authority, they're terrified. And everything they say is monitored. So, mostly the Christians are very
00:40:14.860
anti-Israel, the spokespeople. But when you look at actual events on the ground, they have fled.
00:40:20.480
They either go to Europe, or mostly to America, or Israel. I think Israel is getting close to having
00:40:26.220
200,000 Christians. And they're not people who were there in 1947, necessarily. Most of them
00:40:32.960
came to Israel as the refuge from religious persecution by Muslim governments. And I think
00:40:40.740
most of the evangelical community that I know of is still very pro-Israel. I think what we're talking
00:40:46.020
about is the libertarian right intellectual movement. And I understand, you know, I know that Tucker
00:40:52.460
Carlson has voiced some things. Candace Owens has. The Cato Institute's been really vocal. There's some
00:40:59.080
people on that website who've called for breaking relations almost with Israel. But I don't think it
00:41:05.220
represents most Christians, much less most Americans. But I don't know quite what their arguments,
00:41:11.400
because I've seen so many of them, you know. It doesn't take a lot of brains to say, there's 500
00:41:17.560
million people in the Middle East, and there's 12 million that live on a democratic government. And
00:41:22.040
that is the only democratic constitutional system there. And when you go to Haifa, or Jerusalem,
00:41:28.200
or Tel Aviv, and I have been to every Arab country in the Middle East, and you go to,
00:41:34.280
except Emirates, I haven't been there. But if you go to Tunis, or you go to Tripoli, or you go to Cairo,
00:41:43.480
and these are moderate countries, you go to Jordan, you go to Baghdad, you go to Beirut,
00:41:49.000
you go to Damascus, and then just compare it, going to Haifa, for example. And it's just night and day.
00:41:56.840
None of these people who are saying death to America, if they dare to go back into their own
00:42:01.720
countries, and they said death to Assad, or death to the Palestinians, or death to Hamas,
00:42:07.080
they would be killed, or they'd be in jail. But they wouldn't, if you're in Israel,
00:42:11.880
and you say death to Netanyahu, you're not. And so, it's not Muslim-Christian, it's just an
00:42:18.840
empirical difference between a free society that lives by the rule of law, and its neighbors who do
00:42:25.720
most, for the vast majority, do not. And anybody on the right who can't make that distinction is,
00:42:32.760
I don't think, I don't know what you do with them. But it's a no-brainer.
00:42:39.000
Our audience should know, in addition to the classics that you teach, you're an expert in
00:42:44.120
warfare. You've written a lot of books on it, you've studied a lot of conflicts, seen how they played out.
00:42:50.280
And I heard you on your show, which I love, talking about this, yes, you've talked in the
00:42:57.000
past about proportionality, but you were talking about the extreme response to Israel after it,
00:43:05.160
I don't know if the word is inadvertently, but mistakenly killed these central kitchen workers.
00:43:11.560
Their ban was labeled, it was clear that they, or should have been clear that they were not
00:43:16.520
combatants for Hamas. But Israel made a mistake, and they fired two people over it. But still,
00:43:22.440
you've got innocents now who are dead. And this has led to President Biden, many others saying,
00:43:28.920
that's it. Like, you've got to change it. That's the Kamala Harris soundbite. You've got to change
00:43:32.600
your tactics, or we're going to change ours. And, you know, you brought your hefty dose of reality,
00:43:37.720
if we want to take a hard look at civilian deaths in a war conflict.
00:43:42.040
Well, I mean, I walked through Fallujah about a year and a half after we retook it,
00:43:49.080
and it looked like a moonscape. And we were doing all we could not to kill civilians that were
00:43:54.760
intertwined within the sons of the Baathist and ISIS. And we leveled Mosul, or actually the Iraqi forces,
00:44:04.120
with our help and air power leveled Mosul. And I didn't hear anybody in Dearborn say anything. I didn't
00:44:10.280
hear anybody in Dearborn say, my God, we stand with Chechnya. Putin, when we had the second
00:44:17.320
Chechnya war, he leveled Mosul, leveled it. It didn't even exist. I didn't hear anybody in Dearborn
00:44:23.480
say a word. I didn't hear anybody in Dearborn ever object to what the Taliban were doing to women. I
00:44:31.320
really didn't hear that. And so I don't hear anybody talking today. There's a million Muslim
00:44:36.600
Uyghurs in China that are being oppressed. I hear Blinken talking about it and equating the
00:44:41.240
Gazans with the Uyghurs, but I don't hear anybody in Dearborn. So there's something else is what I'm
00:44:46.760
trying to say going on. And when you look at the usual ratio, it's three or four civilians to one is
00:44:52.680
pretty good. I don't mean anything's good in urban warfare, but there's outside observers who've come
00:44:58.600
back and said the number of actual militants, terrorists, combatants who were killed versus
00:45:06.600
civilians is about one to one or 1.5 to one. And that shows you that's a great deal of care.
00:45:14.440
And you know, the other thing, it's very, it's really bizarre, Megan. We have two wars going on,
00:45:20.280
and I haven't heard anybody on the left, and I haven't heard this administration say to Mr. And I
00:45:25.480
support Mr. Zelensky's right to defense. I'm glad we give them weapons. And I break with some people
00:45:30.840
on the right. I don't want to go into Moscow or attack Russia on the offensive, but to defend
00:45:36.040
themselves, they have a right. But have you heard anybody say, Mr. Zelensky, you need a wartime
00:45:42.200
bipartisan government, just like we made Mr. Netanyahu do? No, he canceled elections. He canceled
00:45:48.120
habeas corpus. He outlawed political parties. Do they ever say to the Ukrainians, you've got to be
00:45:53.800
proportionate. Do not be disproportionate and start something. No. Do they ever say when you go back,
00:45:58.840
when you send drones into Crimea on bridges and highways to disrupt transportation of the Russian
00:46:05.560
military, you've got to be very careful about collateral damage. You've got to have collateral
00:46:11.320
damage. Now, I think it's very sad that there's been 30, maybe 30, we don't, thousand, we don't know
00:46:17.720
how many people have been killed in Gaza. We do know there's somewhere between seven and eight
00:46:23.400
hundred thousand dead, wounded and missing Russians and Ukrainians. We're beyond the Battle of Verdun
00:46:31.000
in World War I. We're getting close to the Battle of Psalm territory. And I haven't heard anybody in
00:46:36.440
this administration say, we need a ceasefire right now. This is the largest carnage that we've seen
00:46:43.640
since World War II, and it's right in Europe. And we've got to do something. Seven, eight hundred
00:46:49.240
thousand people have been destroyed. Twelve million people. Twenty-eight percent of Ukraine has left the
00:46:57.240
country. It doesn't even have 45 million. It's down to about 30 million. They're running out of manpower.
00:47:03.320
They are destroying that country. I haven't heard anything. No ceasefire talk. And yet we say to the
00:47:09.080
Jewish state, ceasefire can't be disproportionate. Got to have coalition government. You've got no
00:47:17.000
collateral damage. And it's bizarre. And everybody said, well, Russia started it. They went in there.
00:47:23.560
So what do you expect Ukraine to do? Yeah, I agree with that. And Hamas broke a ceasefire.
00:47:29.720
What do you expect Israel to do? And by the way, there's not three dozen Americans
00:47:36.440
dead, killed by design by the Russians in that conflict, right? That's what we have here. Hamas
00:47:43.480
took Americans, killed them, and still have five hostage. I got to take a break.
00:47:48.200
And why, Megan, you made a really excellent point. I feel terrible about the Wall Street Journal
00:47:53.720
reporter, but everybody is obsessed on one American hostage, and they should be, that Russia has taken.
00:48:00.680
But they don't say one word. We still have five or six American hostages that are in somewhere in that
00:48:06.440
tunnel, if not dead. I never hear Mr. Biden say anything publicly about that. So there's a big
00:48:12.440
asymmetry, and they should explain why that is on these two wars.
00:48:15.800
Yeah, they're not the same. The growing sentiment among Republicans in particular against the Ukraine
00:48:22.920
war is spilling over into the Israeli conflict, from which much less has been asked of the United
00:48:30.520
States. Israel's doing its own thing. Ukraine is asking for more and more from us. So I don't know
00:48:36.600
why they're getting lumped together. Maybe there are other reasons, but BDH is an expert on it all.
00:48:41.800
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President Trump is out on the campaign trail before they send him to prison, which is the
00:50:00.840
goal of at least three prosecutors in Atlanta, Jack Smith and two different jurisdictions. And
00:50:08.040
next week, Alvin Bragg in New York. He is in Atlanta, Georgia, and he made a surprise stop at
00:50:14.200
Chick-fil-A. Here's a little bit of him ordering milkshakes and chicken for everyone in the restaurant.
00:50:20.280
Listen, it's a nice clip. Okay. So he's ordering, he goes, can I get 30 milkshakes and some chicken
00:50:43.640
for the people here? And then you'll see. So these were just for the listening audience.
00:50:47.800
I think everybody there was, uh, black. Uh, all the workers were black. They were not
00:50:52.760
recoiling in fear or horror at this racist president who's been portrayed nonstop that way by the media
00:50:59.480
and in Atlanta and by people like Fannie Willis. Um, he got a hero's welcome, including from this
00:51:05.880
employee. Watch this. This is like, this is what's special about Trump, right? And he gets out there
00:51:30.120
with the people and he does stops like that. Something Biden's incapable. I mean, literally
00:51:34.520
incapable of doing that's magic for him. Yeah. I, that's why I, you know, in our previous
00:51:41.080
conversation, I'm a little bit more confident because I think this is starting to look more
00:51:45.480
like 2016 than 2020. And I think the, the left was surprised in 2016. So they prepared in 2020 and the
00:51:55.400
right was surprised. And I think now they're both on level ground and that's, that speak,
00:52:00.600
that's going to help Trump. But, you know, I, I, as I said before, I live in a community that's about
00:52:05.320
90% Latino and everybody said the Latino vote, the Latino vote is conservative, but it never quite
00:52:11.160
goes to Republicans always about 35 to 40%. But I think Latino males, especially over 30, it's going
00:52:18.200
to go 50% at least. It won't matter in California, but, but it will matter on the down ballot and
00:52:24.440
congressional districts. And it might matter in places like Arizona, especially in Georgia, maybe
00:52:31.640
even Colorado and some races. So what I, I guess what I'm getting at, I think a lot of the minority
00:52:37.960
community is starting to follow the trends of a white working class that used to be in the days
00:52:44.360
of Bill Clinton, still union democratic. And they've, they got so tired of being lectured to
00:52:52.040
by these bi-coastal elites that they rebelled. And they said, we want cheap gas. We're not into your
00:52:57.560
global warming transgender DEI agendas. And everybody thought that would never happen to the Latino
00:53:05.240
Latino and black elite. But I think your point about Fannie Willis or Latita James,
00:53:11.880
I don't think they represent a lot of black people, maybe the majority, but not all of them.
00:53:17.240
And given the polarization that the democratic party has instilled, they need about 85% of the black vote.
00:53:27.720
I'm not sure they're going to get it. And I think we're just starting to see a lot of people saying,
00:53:31.880
you know what? I want inexpensive rent. I want inexpensive insurance. I want to be able to afford
00:53:38.600
food and gas. And you know what? You're, you're the black leadership's DEI for a bunch of black elites
00:53:46.440
that squabble over the anchor ship at MSNBC or the deanship at Harvard or present. That doesn't
00:53:53.240
affect me at all. And I, and I don't like you to tell me how I have to vote. And I think it's going to
00:53:59.880
surprise people. It's going to be a lot larger defection from Biden and Biden's a catalyst,
00:54:04.600
by the way, there's something about him that people don't, they're not, they don't warm to,
00:54:10.520
especially in the black community. When you know, you, you say you ain't black or put you all in
00:54:14.520
change or Barack Obama's the first black president can speak articulately, or he calls one of his
00:54:21.560
assistants boy, or uses the word Negro. He's got a whole record of that. And, you know, when you see
00:54:27.800
a lot of interviews with black average people, they don't warm to Joe Biden and they have natural
00:54:34.600
reasons not to. And I think that's going to, that's going to multiply.
00:54:41.480
It's a, it's the same as what we saw in that story from the NPR whistleblower yesterday that
00:54:46.720
hit on the free press, who said we've devoted the past almost four years since George Floyd to
00:54:53.480
DEI rules everything. It's quote, our North star, our hiring. We always have to make sure what their
00:54:59.600
race is. That's illegal. Um, and hire accordingly our programming. This is what defines us. And four
00:55:07.320
years later, what has it gotten them? Zero uptick in their black and Hispanic listenership. Zero
00:55:13.880
because unbeknownst to NPR, apparently blacks and Hispanics are interested in the same thing as whites
00:55:20.760
and Asians and everybody else, which is what's in my wallet. Can I afford my rent? What does my future
00:55:26.840
look like? And are we safe in our communities and at our border and so on? And even Joe Biden at some
00:55:32.720
level has been told that because what did he do yesterday? He gave an interview to Univision.
00:55:39.080
And when speaking in front of a largely Hispanic audience, he promised that he is looking at
00:55:47.720
an executive order to control the Southern border, not in front of a right wing or at least purple state
00:55:56.380
audience. Victor, he's talking to Hispanics and there he breaks the news that by the end of April,
00:56:03.180
he may sign an executive order that would reportedly, um, I'm quoting here on at from Axios,
00:56:09.840
um, dramatically limit the number of asylum seekers who can cross the Southern border,
00:56:16.540
just as Trump did notwithstanding the fact that he'd already told us he couldn't do anything unless
00:56:20.960
the Congress acted, but he's doing this in front of this audience for a reason.
00:56:26.200
He is. And he understands that what the elite Latino community tell him on the left is not what the
00:56:32.320
majority of Latinos. And I can tell you in this Mexican American community, when you let all of
00:56:39.060
these people and you bust them in, then what you're basically saying to people who are in Medicare,
00:56:44.860
Medi-Cal, EBT cards, WIC cards, you're going to have a lot longer for your mom to get, uh,
00:56:52.060
dialysis treatment. You're going to go in the store and there's going to be somebody who does not speak
00:56:56.400
English and they're going to have four or five cards and you're, it's going to hold you up in line.
00:57:00.460
And they're going to have cards that need to be authenticated that you're, and they don't like
00:57:05.960
it. And they look at the public schools here. Are we going to go back to English as a second
00:57:09.800
language? Are we going to have advanced placement? And so a lot of people, I don't think Biden
00:57:15.020
understands that there's such a large Hispanic community and it's third generation, second,
00:57:22.040
most of these young kids don't speak Spanish anymore. And they have, you're exactly right.
00:57:27.240
They have the identical aspirations, values as anybody else. And Biden keeps pandering
00:57:32.100
as if they're right. They just walked across the border or, and now he's trying to see that that's
00:57:38.020
wrong. And he's trying to pander the other way. But it, you know, when you listen to Kamala Harris,
00:57:45.500
does anybody really think that a black person that's middle-class and is a carpenter or is a
00:57:51.980
delivery man, or is a plumber, when he listens to her, he's going to think, wow, she's black.
00:57:58.040
I'm going to vote for the Biden ticket. She has nothing in common with them. And I think a lot
00:58:02.560
of black people and Latino are saying, you know what? Our leaders are just like these white out
00:58:07.800
of touch. They're the Pete Buttigiegs that happen to be black. And we don't have anything in common,
00:58:12.900
just like the people in East Palestine. And if that's true, Donald Trump, for all of his faults and
00:58:19.040
crudity, he did something that no Republican had ever envisioned. Not the Bushes, not McCain,
00:58:24.260
not Romney, not Bob Dole. He really tried to substitute class for race. And that was an
00:58:31.740
ecumenical idea that we're going to create a national workers, nationalist Republican Party,
00:58:38.340
and it's going to transcend race and accentuate common class aspirations. Cheap gas, fuel, affordable
00:58:47.820
energy, affordable food, affordable housing for the middle class. And if he does that,
00:58:53.660
and the Republican Party starts to be a magnet for people on the basis of class, the Democratic Party
00:58:59.940
will go completely crazy. Well, you saw today, Victor, that not only do we have, you know,
00:59:05.620
he's clearly worried about the border, as he should be, but the inflation numbers, overall prices,
00:59:11.620
overall prices today, up 19.4% under Biden. These are updated figures. The inflation report came out,
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and it's worse than expected. Since he took office, gasoline, up almost 50%, 47.8%. Groceries,
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up 21%. Eating out, up 21%. Baby food, 30%. Pet food, 23%. Rent, 20%. Electricity, 28%. Natural gas,
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26.9%. Used cars, 20%. Airfare, 32%. Public transportation, 22%. Real average weekly earnings
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down 3.9%. So that's why he's not talking about Bidenomics anymore.
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I know. And people get very angry when he says, well, inflation's moderate. It doesn't matter if
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it's only 3% or 4%, which is higher than it was under Trump, because he's never really dealt with or
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explained why eggs or why car insurance or why rent are 20%, 30% higher than when he came into office.
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He should be saying, we're going to get prices down. Why is organic milk $9?
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Exactly. Why doesn't he say that we're going to get prices back to where they were in 2021,
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or maybe 2%? He never says that. He just says, basically, he's telling people,
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we screwed up. We made it almost impossible to live. But now, it's only getting worse a little
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bit. It's not as really bad like it was. He's never saying, we're going to rectify what we did.
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No, it's like the supermodel. Our economy, it was like the supermodel, who then gains 200 pounds.
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And then she asks you to celebrate the fact that she lost two. Then she lost another two. And we're
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we missed the supermodel version of ourselves. I know. And they think people are stupid. Even
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David Axelrod said, I think yesterday, he said, Biden's got to shut up and not go talk about
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building bridges or a trillion dollar new green deal or any of that stuff. And just talk about
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getting prices down. And I don't think that's going to change before November. It's really, I mean,
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when I go fill up, Megan, I've never seen this. I go to a discount gas thing, a rural place,
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two miles from here. I'm the only non-Hispanic. And when you get in line to get in your car,
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you wait. You know why you wait? Because nobody can put it on their credit card because they're
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all maxed out. So you know what they do? They go into the office or the little stand and they pay
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cash. And they don't pay, it's $6 now for gas here in California. They don't pay for a 20-gallon
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tank, $120. They pay $10 or $15. They go back and put gas in their car. And then they think,
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well, maybe I have an extra $12. I'll go back in and buy two more gallons. It's like,
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and nobody, Biden has no idea what he's done to people or knew some here in California, $6.
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And on the coast yesterday when I was in, yeah, it was $6.30 yesterday when I filled up
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in Palo Alto on the way home. So, you know, he doesn't have any idea of the effect it has on
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middle-class people. Or when you see people and it's 105 here, they can't afford the power bill,
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PG&E. So they go into Walmart and use the free air conditioning and let their kids play with the
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toys as if Walmart is the daycare center because the heating is so, and the cooling, the cooling is
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so cheap. It's nothing. They don't have, they can't turn on their air conditioning. We have 4 million
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people and 4 million households in California who haven't paid their power bill. 4 million out of
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just 12, I think it's 15 million. And so what does he do? So what does he do? He comes up with another
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student loan quote forgiveness program for rich college educated law school grads, med school grads.
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He's trying to, like, those people are going to have to sweat and go to the Walmart to cool down
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with their children. But these elites with the degrees, it's going to help them because he needs
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to shore up the youth vote. And over here on the East Coast, Victor, we're going through the crime
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wave and being told not just by Biden, but his most ardent supporters, it's not happening. Crime's done.
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He solved it. Listen to Rachel Maddow just a couple of weeks ago.
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The FBI reports that violent crime in America is at a 50-year low.
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And microprime is not a thing. And you live on Earth-1.
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Okay, it's at a 50-year low. This is so, it's so misleading.
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It's not true. I'm going to give you the floor, but I just want to show you one other thing before
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I do. And that is just today. This is making the rounds online in Queens. Look at this. It's
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He shoves this reportedly 69-year-old woman down the stairs. She's clearly unconscious.
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She was going up the stairs of a church, robs her, takes her purse, runs away.
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This is, I could have polled 10 others like this. Every day we see violent crime like this.
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And yet we're just told, I mean, not to mention the shoplifting and the carjackings.
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And we're just told, don't believe you're lying ice. Because in Rachel Maddow's neighborhood,
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Exactly. And we don't even go back. You could try to go on the FBI statistics. They're about two
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years behind anyway. And now we get, I think, news reports the last couple of days. A lot of their
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statistics are not as accurate as they say they are. But even the ones that they present us,
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when you look at 2021 and you look at today, it's the same thing as you mentioned in inflation.
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Crime goes out of control 21, 22, 23. And it couldn't get much higher in terms of aggravated
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assault murder without being unsustainable. Then it just tapers off for a year. And they say,
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crime hasn't gone down. Well, it's like saying prices are cheap because inflation was 3%.
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Murders only went up 1%. That's a smaller ride. But go back to when he started and go look at
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what's going on. And I mean, everybody knows it. So they're not going to run, Megan. They know it.
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They're not going to run on how safe they made everybody. Just like they're not going to run
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how cheap things. This is just something for the talk shows. Okay. So what they're going to run on,
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there is January 6th. And threats to democracy. Exactly. Threats to democracy. And that leads me
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to the Kamala Harris soundbite that I promised. Well, here's Joe Biden just to kick it off because
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in that same Univision interview, he was asked, what's the biggest threat to democracy right now?
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And here's how he answered. What, in your view, constitutes the primary threat to freedom and
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democracy at home? Donald Trump. Seriously. Donald Trump uses phrases like you're going to
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eviscerate the Constitution. He's going to be a dictator on day one. Look at the way he talks about
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minority populations, Hispanics. You know, we're talking about them being... Anyway,
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he says you're going to be a dictator on day one. No one doesn't believe him.
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Okay. So that's the president. This is a man who said, yeah, you're not black. Called one of his
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assistants. Where's my boy? He's got, we know what he said about Barack Obama. And more importantly,
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this is a man who just this week basically told the nation that he's going to ignore the Supreme
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Court and find a way to get around the Supreme Court prohibition of unilateral cancellation of student
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loans. And this is a president right now whose party is in the Senate and they're violating the
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Constitution. They've been given a writ of impeachment and they're supposed to schedule a
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hearing. And Chuck Schumer is so paranoid about this because he's got Democratic senators up in
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states that they're probably going to lose the election, especially they will lose the election
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if they do not impeach Mayorkas, but they sanction Mayorkas and what he did to the border.
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And so they're not going to hold a trial. They're going to try to postpone it. And they've never
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done that before. And we haven't had never had a president who basically said the Supreme Court
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got me on the first chance. I'm going to try it again. Not since FDR tried to pack the court,
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which they've also argued. And when you look at the whole picture, there's one party who got rid of
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the filibuster, who's trying to get rid of the electoral college, who's trying to pack the court,
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who's trying to bring in new states. Their whole idea is processed. When the system doesn't
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get their intended result, then they want to change the system. They're the ones that are
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trying to get a presidential candidate off the ballot. They're the ones using lawfare.
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Joe Biden knows that. Every time he says, pay your fair share, I always think, well,
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your son is right now facing income tax fraud. Why don't you just tell him to do it before you tell
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the nation to do it? I think people have had it. I really do. Joe Biden, he wasn't a nice guy. He's
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not a nice person. He's very crude. He's said things that were, I think, overtly racist. They've
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given him a complete pass on the way that he bothers the private space of women. He says things about
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himself that are completely untrue. He makes up stories about, you know, he was Greek or he was
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Puerto Rican or he was this than that or a truck driver. He's a great athlete. He was the first
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person in his family ever to go to college, which is a blatant lie. He just does it every day. And
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he's not as sympathetic. It's like he went to the mall food court and picked every ethnicity and said
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that's how he was raised. That was a church I went to. That was my neighbor who raised me. That was my
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uncle. Wait, I've got to get this Kamala Harris soundbite in, which took it a step further on this
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podcast. I think it was yesterday. It's not four. I don't think it's hyperbolic to say this
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genuinely could be the last democratic election we ever have. You're right. No, and I'm going to
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tell you as vice president, I've now met with over 150 world leaders, presidents, prime ministers,
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chancellors, and kings. And in the last three international trips I've taken, which are,
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you know, going back to the end of last year through this year, world leaders have come up to
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me expressing their real concern. Last democratic election ever. This is it.
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This is a, this is a person who was elected after she said in June of 2020, these, after there was a
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all these violent demonstrations, you know, 120 days, 35 people killed, 1,500 police officers
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injured, $2 billion of damage, police precinct court, iconic church torch, trying to storm the
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White House grounds to get at the president who had to go into a bunker. And she said, this is not
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going to stop. It shouldn't stop. This is going to go all the way to the election. And she's talking
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about disruptions to dismantle. All she had to do is say, she could have basically said, we lost the
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Supreme court decision on the student loans. So we have to follow the court decision. That's all
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she, are we not going to let Mark Zuckerberg put $419 million to absorb the work of the registrars
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this time around that work that that's not a good thing to have in a democracy, or we're not,
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we're not going to, we're going to make sure that every candidate gets on the ballot who's qualified.
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We're not going to take people's names off. It's all she has to say, but she's not going to say that.
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And it's, I agree that January 6 was a buffoonish riot, but it was not a full fledged insurrection of
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the way that they talk about. That's a whole nother topic. But in comparison to what happened in 2020,
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that was led by Antifa and BLM, it's no comparison in terms of violence, damage, arson, ruin people's
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lives, death, and they know that. And so part of it is messaging, Megan. We're not, we on the right
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It's undermentioned is January 6th. It was a terrible day, but it didn't cause, you know,
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for the next three and a half years, death after death, after death, after death, after death,
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after death, after death, like BLM riots did because cops, thanks to the Ferguson effect and the George
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Floyd effect were so put upon, were so demonized. They held back. And who got hurt? The black
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community, the inner cities, black communities, some Hispanic, they, they died in greater numbers.
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Heather McDonald's going to be here soon. She's going to be talking about this, not today, but
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soon on the show. And she's done great work on this. And so like it's had ongoing negative effects.
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I mean, deathly effects on the very communities Kamala Harris purports to be
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concerned about, but there's no accountability for any of that.
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Well, the person that you just saw that hit the woman and knocked her off the steps to the church.
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And I think as she was laying there, he not only stole it, but she got up and went toward her car.
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And then he went and stole her car, if I'm not mistaken. But he, he did that on the premise that
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he's not going to be arrested. If he's arrested, he's going to have no cash bail. If he should be
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incarcerated, he's going not to be indicted. If he's indicted, he probably won't be convicted.
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If he's convicted, he probably will be released. That's how he thinks about it. And there's no
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deterrence left. And that was part of this whole critical legal, critical race theory that the left
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gave us, that the laws don't mean anything. They're constructs created by wealthy white
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privileged people who warp things in their own interest. So it's, it's against a lot of steel
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sneakers because some billionaire white guy doesn't steal sneakers. So he made a law so other people
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can't. That's basically critical legal theory. And they know what they've done. And I think we're
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going to see a lot of really desperate things go on. It reminds me so much, Megan, of 1980 when Jimmy
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Carter, it was a disaster inflation, the Iranian hostage Soviets on the move. And he was neck and
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neck with Reagan. And he was neck, people forget that he was neck and neck all the way to almost
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October. In fact, in one poll, two weeks before the election, he was eight. And then people just
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said, you know, I've had it. I don't want to hear the lies anymore. This is incompetent. And then they
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just, the last two weeks, it just blew up. I think it's going to be a very close race. But I,
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if Trump is smart, and he sticks to the agenda, and what he's going to do and outlines what's happened to
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the country and what the solution is, I think he could really break open the election in the late
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summer, really do, and win this House and Senate. He's going to be outspent. He's going to have the
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media. He's going to have all the institutions against him. But if he sticks to the agenda,
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and he can control what he says, there's a lot of people, and I think we've talked about,
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there's millions of people out there who say, give me a reason to vote for you,
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because I do not want what's going on to continue. I just need a reason to vote for you.
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And I think if he can give that reason, they're going to, yeah.
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So in sum, don't say too much. Thumbs up on the Chick-fil-A visits. Very good. Nice moments.
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Fight fire with fire on the abortion debate, because as controversial as some of these things are,
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like the Arizona decision and soundbites like the one we played from our friend,
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there are far more controversial soundbites on the other side and relating the policies that the
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far left supports and Joe Biden would support if reelected. And keep driving home the message on
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the economy and the border. And you know what? Let them focus obsessively on DEI, which we've seen
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time after time, is a loser for them. Victor Davis Hanson, you're the wisest. You're the smartest guy
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I know. I love listening to you. Well, thank you for having me.
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Come back again soon. Okay. Don't forget. The book is the end of everything. Go order it now.
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