The Democrats are releasing more Jeffrey Epstein documents, trying to tie the disgraced former financier to President Trump. Plus, the woman kicked out of Gold's Gym for confronting a man pretending to be a woman in the women's locker room is now making her case to a far-left politician named Scott Wiener.
00:05:01.460Now, I don't know what I'm 75% there means other than possibly he's 75% ready to tell authorities about Trump or something.
00:05:08.640But this is before Trump was running for office.
00:05:10.840He was just a businessman and a celebrity apprentice host back then, an apprentice host.
00:05:14.440And this is post Jeffrey Epstein's sweetheart deal, you know, that he cut with the Trump administration a couple years later.
00:05:26.320And, but the trouble had arisen back in 2008, 2009, originally.
00:05:32.540So, I'm just trying to get my facts, like, straight of when the actual deal was cut under the Trump administration, Alex Acosta.
00:05:39.420But the trouble started back in 2008 and 2009 when he first got arrested.
00:05:44.360So, there's been, like, a sequence of events.
00:05:46.200In any event, this is him saying that, allegedly, this is the dog that won't hunt, that some victims spent hours at Epstein's house with Trump, and Trump has never once been mentioned by anyone, including the police chief.
00:06:02.340The fact that the word victim is redacted is quite telling, Bhatia.
00:06:08.620And what we're seeing from House Republicans who are responding to the Democrats' immediate attempt to try to play this up is the following.
00:06:17.600House Oversight Committee tweets out the following, or at least the GOP.
00:06:21.460Why did Democrats cover up the name of the alleged victim when the estate, Jeffrey Epstein's estate, which produced this document, did not redact it in the redacted documents provided to the committee?
00:06:34.100So, this is a Democrat redaction, not an Epstein estate redaction.
00:06:38.540And they wrote, it's because this victim, Virginia Giuffre, they out, publicly said she never witnessed wrongdoing by President Trump.
00:06:46.760Democrats are trying to create a fake narrative to slander President Trump.
00:06:53.740Just for context, Julie K. Brown, the Miami Herald reporter who's broken tons of stories about Epstein, says the three emails were written during critical times in Epstein's life.
00:07:01.880But as for this one, in 2011, she says it was written when the FBI was beginning to suspect that the crimes Epstein committed in Florida in the early 2000s went beyond those he committed in Palm Beach.
00:07:13.660So, that's where it stands now, because they were sniffing around him in 2008.
00:07:21.060I believe he signed that sweetheart deal in 2009, and then it all came back again in like 2015 leading into 16.
00:07:31.140I'm trying to remember when he was first added as having done much, much more.
00:07:34.200But in any event, the original trouble was 08, 09, and she's pointing out he's cut this deal in Palm Beach, and the FBI by 2011 was starting to suspect that those crimes were just the tip of the iceberg.
00:07:47.260So, what do you make of the redaction of the alleged victim from this very, very damning email, Batya?
00:07:54.360It's so hilarious to me, because they knew if they left her name in, this would be totally dismissed, because she has been revealed to be a serial fabricator who had to literally recant her testimony against Alan Dershowitz.
00:08:22.920It's very sad, obviously very troubled.
00:08:25.160But the idea that this is somehow like a smoking gun for Trump, I think is so utterly ridiculous to see the Democrats racing to take the word of an actual pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein, just so they can smear Donald Trump.
00:08:42.980It's like when they went to the trough of Michael Cohen and elevated him as some sort of truth teller because they thought it would hurt Donald Trump.
00:08:49.980I just think if this is all they could find in there on Donald Trump and Epstein, Trump is in a really good place.
00:08:56.240We know that he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago because he thought he was a creep.
00:09:02.240So the idea that it's somehow some smoking gun, you know, that he thought he was a creep, I think is so totally ridiculous.
00:09:09.000The replacement of her name with the word victim tells you everything you need to know.
00:09:13.080So much of this story is just classic Me Too overreach.
00:09:16.700There was that ridiculous press conference where they had woman after woman after woman come up and say, I was a Jeffrey Epstein victim.
00:09:23.620Half of them, Megan, met Jeffrey Epstein after they were already adults.
00:09:28.360You know, the idea that they are the victims of pedophilia.
00:09:31.540It's just everyone should read Michael Tracy's reporting on this.
00:09:34.160He's just been absolutely, absolutely great just holding their feet to the fire.
00:09:38.660And it's just so funny to see the right running with what is a classic Me Too overreach story because they thought the Democrats were sort of holding back on them.
00:09:49.500That redaction tells you everything you need to know.
00:09:52.360The Virginia Dufresne thing is amazing.
00:09:54.940The fact that they redacted that is just incredible to me.
00:09:57.900First of all, she outed herself as an Epstein victim.
00:10:00.940Like, you don't have to protect the identity of a victim when she's outed herself as a victim.
00:10:05.480Like, and they know this rule because I hate to bring her up, but let's just take Gretchen Carlson, who claims she was a victim of Roger Ailes.
00:10:15.360And CNN and the Democrats, they had her testify before Congress.
00:10:20.300They didn't say, oh, witness in shadow because she outed herself as an alleged victim.
00:10:25.200And Virginia Dufresne has been, before she died, all over the news.
00:10:34.540Why would they redact her name if that is, in fact, the name, as the GOP members of the House Oversight Committee are saying, given the fact that she'd already been outed?
00:11:03.620And when you hear a denial that you know is true, it sounds very different from a denial that you think is not true.
00:11:09.620Just by case in point, we did a thing, a report yesterday morning on AM Update about those two baseball players who were accused of throwing balls instead of strikes in certain innings to let people bet on the pitch.
00:11:22.300And the MLB, to its credit, saw that certain betting would go up in a certain inning on this one closer and this one starter for this team.
00:11:30.720And they conducted an investigation to see if there was some funny business going on.
00:11:33.740And sure enough, they concluded there was.
00:11:35.760They brought in—they referred it to law enforcement.
00:12:15.840I never slept with any woman other than my wife ever anywhere.
00:12:19.820And there will never be a recording or any proof whatsoever that I did because I didn't.
00:12:26.340I am factually innocent of the charges against me.
00:12:29.280And I demand that she come forward with proof that I was where she says I was on these dates.
00:12:34.360When she didn't, he produced his own date books showing he couldn't have been in the places she was alleging.
00:12:40.780And here is how the Virginia Dufresne allegation—keep in mind, we're talking about this because now it appears she's being used by the Democrats as Trump's alleged accuser—
00:12:49.560that this is how Virginia Dufresne decided to ruin Alan Dershowitz's life.
00:12:55.620The first email between Dufresne and a journalist named Sharon Churcher happened in May of 2011, okay?
00:13:05.480Right around the time this email between Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell happened, by the way.
00:13:09.620And this journalist was trying to help Virginia Dufresne sell a book that she was writing then about her experiences with Epstein.
00:13:18.680Dufresne writes the following email to Sharon Churcher.
00:13:20.720Hi, Sharon. We're drawing up a contract through her agent right now and getting busy to meet my deadline—I don't know who her agent is—and getting busy to meet my deadline.
00:13:31.280Just wondering if you have information on you from when you and I were doing interviews about the J.E. story.
00:13:36.760I wanted to put the names of some of the assholes—I mean, oops, I mean to say pedos—that Jeffrey Epstein sent me to.
00:13:44.120With everything going on, my brain feels like mush, and it would be a great deal of help.
00:13:47.960Churcher responded, don't forget Alan Dershowitz.
00:13:51.840We all suspect Alan is a pedo, and though no proof of that, you probably met him when he was hanging out with J.E.
00:14:04.200That is what was behind the Jufre accusation that ruined Alan's life.
00:14:11.920People still think he was an Epstein sex trafficker.
00:14:15.520It's a fucking lie, and while I don't doubt Virginia Jufre that she fell within the crosshairs of Jeffrey Epstein and was used and abused by him because he was a serial user and abuser,
00:14:26.740I don't believe one word she said about Alan Dershowitz, and she lied repeatedly about the age she was when she had encounters with the Epstein connections and so on.
00:14:40.880Like, ages she would know that were—she was off by several years that would have made the difference between whether she was a minor or an adult and so on.
00:14:48.260And that's the woman who now the Democrats want to use as, I guess, their smoking gun against Trump.
00:15:03.720She took her—died by suicide last year.
00:15:06.140And she was working on a memoir at the time, and she had a co-writer who was ghostwriting it for her, Amy Wallace.
00:15:13.140And here is what her posthumous memoir, titled Nobody's Girl, says about Trump, writes about Trump.
00:15:19.180She describes meeting Trump once at Mar-a-Lago, where her father worked, but does not accuse Trump of wrongdoing.
00:15:25.100Trump, quote, could not have been friendlier, Jufre said, adding that he offered to help her find babysitting work.
00:15:31.480Then the co-author, Amy Wallace, who finished the book off, was asked whether Jufre ever accused Trump of wrongdoing during their private conversations.
00:15:40.300Wallace answered, quote, she, Virginia, never talked about him in any sense that he was involved in any of this, end quote.
00:15:47.900Then she goes on to say, quote, as far as she knew—and again, she was there for two-plus years, meaning Virginia—
00:15:54.760But as far as she, Virginia, knew, Trump was not involved in the ring of trafficking that Epstein was working.
00:16:02.300That is why the Democrats redacted the name Virginia Jufre from this alleged smoking gun email.
00:16:18.860Don't give the Democrats the power to make these ridiculous redactions.
00:16:21.860But at the same time, Megan, as you point out, Alan Dershowitz did not recover from that fully.
00:16:29.180There are still people out there who think he is a pedophile, despite the fact that she was forced by court to recant that.
00:16:36.680And so how many other names are in there of people who are completely innocent, but whose lives will be destroyed when this tranche of documents,
00:16:47.200some of them written by Epstein himself, a serial pedophile, a terrible person whose word should not be trusted or worth anything.
00:16:58.400When that gets out there, I just feel that in the court of public opinion, there are people who will be judged and will never be able to defend themselves,
00:17:06.840despite being totally innocent, kind of in the way that Trump is now being smeared.
00:17:11.360Now, we can say, look, this is all like obvious nonsense.
00:17:32.240It's 2025, and they still believe that this is like a mainstream person, a person who actually is, you know, in the political world who, honest to God, was not lying to me.
00:17:44.060Like, honest to God still believes that.
00:17:45.800And I just feel that it is unfair to people to do that to them because they will not recover, just like Alan Dershowitz's reputation never fully recovered.
00:17:55.520If you're going to do it, you're going to have to release the victims' names.
00:17:59.780This is utter bullshit, but speaking of Gretchen Carlson, when the Fox News investigation went down around Roger Ailes, I remember asking, is he going to know the names of the people who came forward?
00:18:10.460And my lawyer said to me, yes, he has the right to know to defend himself.
00:18:22.440But I understood fully he had the right to defend himself and that all of us were going to have our names on the line if, in fact, we came forward.
00:18:37.240I totally understand protecting the identities of children.
00:18:40.140But, like, honestly, even just the whole wide net that prevents sexual assault accusers from being named is strange to me.
00:18:48.300I'm sorry, I definitely don't want them re-victimized, I've talked to countless numbers of women who are in this boat, but these guys have the right to confront their accuser.
00:18:58.160And in today's day and age where we do trial by media, they have the right to have the name out there so people can assess a person's credibility.
00:19:06.940It's just a question of basic fairness.
00:19:08.560Let's keep going on the two other emails.
00:19:10.600Let me get my – let's go back to a little tiny little Lilliputian font.
00:19:14.460I'll just say very quickly, Megan, some of the victims, according to Michael Tracy's reporting, don't want their names out there because they settled for millions of dollars, okay?
00:19:29.600The Jeffrey Epstein money train was no question an allure to many women who may or may not have been caught up in his disgusting behavior.
00:19:40.580I mean, we'll never know, but there was a period there where they were doling out money like it was candy to any woman who came forward and could prove that she had some relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:19:50.480That doesn't mean they were all victims.
00:23:20.500Rather than letting it come out piecemeal, they discovered it from the Epstein estate.
00:23:24.980And Trump had clearly directed Bondi not to produce anything.
00:23:28.080Like, if I were a Democrat, to be honest, Patia, I'd be blowing this up and asking over and over again what it means.
00:23:34.520It's so interesting because, to me, that sounds exactly like something we already knew, which is it's been reported that the reason he asked Epstein to stop coming to Mar-a-Lago was because he would hit on the daughters of the members.
00:23:47.060Like, that was, like, out there reported.
00:23:49.600So I don't see how this is incriminating at all.
00:23:52.700It suggests that Trump, like you said, knew that Jeffrey Epstein liked them young and didn't approve of it.
00:23:57.540So we don't know when Jeffrey was talking about in that moment.
00:24:03.400And honestly, I think Trump's instincts are so spot on about this because, to me, it seems like all of the energy around the Jeffrey Epstein files is really coming from Democrats who hate Trump and hate Trump voters.
00:24:18.960And then people who are in the content business for whom, before Trump was elected, this was a really big topic.
00:24:27.520This generated a lot of interest from people.
00:24:30.000But now that Trump is the president, if you look at public opinion polling of Republicans, they're just not that interested in this.
00:24:38.040And I think Trump just feels like he can ride this out.
00:25:23.220He's not leaning into the he was sniffing around young girls, and so I told him he had to leave Mar-a-Lago story.
00:25:30.280There's another story that he broke up with Epstein because they were buds.
00:25:33.860There's no question they were very close for more than 10 years, which is what makes me believe Trump was on the Epstein plane and at Epstein's house.
00:25:40.740Of course, they were very good friends, but there's another story that Epstein took Trump to go see a property with him that Epstein was thinking of buying out of bankruptcy, and he wanted Trump to advise him on the property.
00:25:55.040And instead of advising him, Trump bought it.
00:25:59.220So I don't know why they broke up, but, you know, we're having to relive all of this nonsense because the whole—there's a number of reasons why.
00:26:07.660Because Trump and several Trump accolades or accolites have made a very big deal out of Jeffrey Epstein.
00:26:15.880I mean, I don't think you can absolve Trump of that at all, Batya.
00:26:19.220It's like Dan Bongino and Kash Patel were the two top Epstein, you know, theory pushers.
00:26:26.000I don't call it a conspiracy theory because I actually—they might have very well been on to something, you know, that there was a cover-up of Epstein.
00:26:31.640And then that's why it was so shocking when Trump got into power and then said, what story?
00:27:16.720The reason that Republicans have lost interest for the most part in this is because the Democrats took it as their own, like they do with everything, went too far.
00:27:22.940It changed from like a genuine search for truth, which I think Republicans really wanted, into just a political weapon to try to bring Trump down, which is what they do with everything.
00:27:32.540And Republicans are fucking over that game.
00:27:36.960And I think that that press conference, was it two months ago, three months ago, where you had the alleged victims?
00:27:42.640Yeah, and Thomas Massey with this parade of, it was just, it was so sordid and, you know, the promise of salacious details and then the women saying, actually, we're going to make our own list.
00:27:56.200You know, like the whole thing was so.
00:28:00.420And it just seemed like, you know, there was a lot like obvious, obvious money grubbing, obvious, you know, coming together of the two sides, because both sides are, see themselves as Trump's political opponents and enemies.
00:28:15.360The politicization, the money aspect of it.
00:28:19.320These women who were grownups when they met Jeffrey Epstein talking about themselves like they were children at the time.
00:28:28.960It's kind of a slap in the face to the actual victims.
00:28:32.260The Virginia Giuffre aspect where there was just lie upon lie upon lie.
00:28:37.120Like the idea that this is kind of something that's going to bring Trump down with his own base, with the other side, I just find it to be all so sordid.
00:28:47.440And moreover, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, there are countless, countless numbers of women, young women, who were brought into his houses and to his island and paid for, quote, a massage with a happy ending, for lack of a better term.
00:29:46.600Not particularly shocking, given how Trump was when he was younger.
00:29:50.040But we have not seen some slew of young women come forward to say, me too, on Donald Trump molesting them or having paid for sex with them when they were barely legal or otherwise.
00:30:04.620Yeah, in fact, at that same press conference, the lawyer for a group of the women actually said Jeffrey Epstein would prey upon women when they were underage, true and disgusting and horrible.
00:30:18.980And then the lawyer said, and when they came of age and he was no longer interested in them, he would then pass them on.
00:30:28.620There was a pedophile who did unspeakable things to vulnerable girls.
00:30:33.100And then they would age out of Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilic interests, at which point he would then start to pass them around to his friends, meaning that there were not actual crimes committed by anybody beyond.
00:31:12.740And the whole ring idea, I think, has been wildly blown out of proportion for these political reasons.
00:31:17.340I don't know about ring, but there are definitely a couple of very well-connected people who have not been brought to justice.
00:31:23.900I'm not going to repeat the names here, but one of them is a very, very successful business owner.
00:31:29.020No, it's, I'm not, I'm just, I don't want to get sued, but one of them is a hugely successful business owner who seems to be a bit of a pervert.
00:32:06.440Anyway, I do think there are some who are so well-connected or did such a good job of hiding their tracks that they'll never be facing real charges.
00:32:13.600As for Epstein, I've said this before, but just as a reminder, I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything.
00:32:21.740Not everything, but virtually everything.
00:32:23.320And this person has told me from the start, years and years ago, that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile.
00:32:32.760This is this person's view who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type.
00:32:46.700That he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.
00:33:00.140And that is what I believed, and that was what I reliably was told for many years.
00:33:04.580And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kiddie porn.
00:33:14.740Now they call it child sexual abuse material.
00:33:16.700Pedophile on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile.
00:33:23.020I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos.
00:54:02.000And she is the one who got kicked out of Gold's gym, her gym, last week because she objected to a very problematic male pretending to be a woman in her locker room.
00:54:18.400Unfortunately for all of us, they handled it because California state law requires any establishment to allow someone to use the locker room or bathroom that aligns with their gender identity.
00:54:31.740So Gold's was not above board in the way they dealt with this.
00:54:35.520But unfortunately for Gold's and every other business in California, they really don't have a lot of choice.
00:54:40.740They have to let these losers hang out in female spaces.
00:55:14.220If you are in California and in Nancy Pelosi's district where he's running for her soon-to-be-vacant seat, please vote for anyone other than Scott Wiener.
00:55:22.980He is the worst politician in America.
00:55:25.920He is my number one most loathed politician.
00:55:30.920There's no one who's done more to trans children than this man.
00:55:51.660As a lesbian woman who was attacked in the woman's locker room at Gold's Gym this week by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence,
00:56:02.480I'm deeply concerned about women's safety in the female-only spaces.
00:56:06.980What would you say to women who are seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who, by California law, can self-ID as women into women-only spaces, sir?
01:08:09.780I had the advantage of being able to turn up the volume in my ear.
01:08:12.340But I urge you to go back and listen to it and turn up the volume.
01:08:14.460Because it's these two undercover next to him in a club trying to get up in his face about his agenda.
01:08:20.780They opened it by making him think that they were fans.
01:08:23.060He started listening and then they dropped, you know, the truth bombs on him about his latest proposed legislation about transing children and what it would do.
01:08:31.820And then asked him about the Kinsey Institute and started to go back into the history of those who started pushing the whole trans movement on us to begin with.
01:08:40.200Which includes some very sick, sick people.
01:08:43.640He was a coward like all the people pushing this stuff are.
01:08:47.120He ran away and now he's running so far away that he's running for office at a higher level, Baccia.
01:08:53.800And I'm sorry, like, I don't want anything bad to happen to Scott Wiener, to be clear.
01:08:57.100But I want this guy to get defeated at the ballot box.
01:09:43.280You mentioned in the first hour, at the top of the show, people who are still so clueless about the news that they think Trump actually said there are very fine people on both sides about white supremacists at the Charlottesville, whatever it was.
01:12:00.860Because I think that one time that that person brings up something that is debunked and false and I debunk it at the table might be the very first time that someone out there has heard an alternative point of view.
01:12:18.020How do we jump to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn't know who he pardoned?
01:12:25.300Because when I wrote a book about how out of it that he was.
01:12:29.000OK, everybody here acknowledges that there have been thousands upon thousands of people, ordinary people who have taken to social media to celebrate this.
01:12:58.480I'm so excited to see the proof of Joe Biden enriching himself.
01:13:01.880OK, so those are just a number of examples she has totally wrong.
01:13:05.020She's seen no proof that Joe Biden directed any of the weaponization against Trump.
01:13:08.720Why don't you go to April 2022 and The New York Times, in which they published his very public demand that Merrick Garland indict Trump, that he wanted him prosecuted?
01:13:17.360How did that wind up in The New York Times?
01:13:18.820Oh, gee, I'm left to wonder, could it possibly have been that Joe Biden wanted it in The New York fucking Times because his private behind the scenes pressure to Merrick Garland was not doing the trick?
01:14:35.220I guess I am going to put you in the awkward position of having to comment on it.
01:14:38.700Well, I am very grateful to her for having me on.
01:14:40.800I think all the people who are kind of on the MAGA side who go on the show feel exactly what Abby was saying she feels, which is a great responsibility to inform the CNN audience of all of the things they think are true that are not true.
01:14:53.260I can't think of a single thing I could point to right now where I could say like, oh, here is like, you know, a big debunked lie that the right has subscribed to whole hog.
01:15:02.700There's a lot of debate happening, as you know, Megan, on the right about all of the big issues.
01:15:07.920There's no real like consensus about anything in this moment, which I think is great.
01:15:11.940Like there's a big, healthy debate happening around all the issues.
01:15:15.460When she's saying she needs to debunk, what she means is she's not talking about facts.
01:15:19.300She's talking about opinions that she thinks, you know, are not legitimate.
01:15:22.880And I can tell you, as somebody who does that show, the interruptions are wildly, wildly disproportionate if you're on the right than if you're on the left.
01:15:34.620The challenge is how to make you each time you go.
01:15:36.480You're like, OK, I got to make my point even faster and faster so I can get something out before I get interrupted.
01:15:42.000But, you know, again, look, at least they have conservatives on the show.
01:15:45.660Right. Even though the, you know, Abby's obviously like on one side of the issue, like they are exposing the audience to, you know, Scott Jennings, I think, is one of the most brilliant conservative voices out there.
01:16:11.500I will often notice that the same clip that I'm sharing from that show, like, oh, here, I made this point really well, exactly the way that I wanted to, is the same clip that all the leftist people who clip it are sharing to show, like, look how stupid this person is.
01:16:27.600That, I think, is really interesting because that people say we're in different media bubbles, but it's actually not true.
01:16:34.280What we are is looking at the same clip and to the left, this is like the worst thing they've ever heard.
01:16:39.580And to the right, it's like, finally, somebody represented exactly how we feel about this in a way that jives with how I feel about it.
01:16:47.020And I think that that is actually very healthy because we are in that moment looking at least at the same piece of information.
01:16:53.080I appreciate that, but Abby Phillip is a liar.
01:16:57.980What she did in that clip with Jerry Reed is lie from start to finish to paint herself as something better than what she is.
01:17:06.100She's a self-aggrandizer, but she is just as biased and full of bullshit as the rest of them over at CNN and MSNBC.
01:17:29.500That's why she has to have 10 people on a panel because they quickly realized she was too boring to actually drive the news.
01:17:35.160I'm sorry, Abby, if no one's told you that, but that's why they gave 10 people on your panel because they realized as soon as you took the seat, you were too boring to solo.
01:17:58.440Speaking of lunatic Democrats, there's a debate happening right now on the right.
01:18:04.280I'm going to bring going to get to the Democrats in a second about whether we should eliminate the filibuster in the Senate.
01:18:09.120Trump really wants the Republicans to do it.
01:18:10.980John Thune, Senate majority leader, is saying we do not have the votes for that.
01:18:14.220And it would be a massive watershed moment in American politics.
01:18:18.760We've had the filibuster since the 1800s.
01:18:21.440It didn't come about really in earnest until the early 1900s.
01:18:24.900But we've had it for over 100 years as a very important tool for minority rights in the Senate, which is the body where you really are supposed to deliberate.
01:18:45.260So taking away minority rights and making it easier to pass legislation would not be totally consistent with how the founders envisioned it.
01:18:51.900Trump's argument is nothing gets passed now.
01:18:54.620We've gotten so obstinate and obstructionist that nothing can get passed, even with a 53-person majority in the Senate.
01:20:30.320And the Democratic president is going to sign it because they have to do an intervention so we can have a Supreme Court that the American people trust again.
01:20:39.140So just keep that in the bag of your mind.
01:20:41.960And I would bet a lot of money that that's what's going to happen.
01:21:00.200I mean, like you said, Megan, it's an extremely important check on the power.
01:21:07.200And also, it gives more gravitas to the Senate, as you pointed out, and it protects minority rights.
01:21:13.940And what I hate to see is the right turning into the left.
01:21:19.720So the left under Obama just got drunk on power.
01:21:23.660They had political power and they had the cultural power.
01:21:26.220And they convinced themselves that they were never going to have to compete again.
01:21:29.200And as a result, they indulged their worst tendencies and called everybody on the other side a Nazi and became extremely far left and radical because they thought that all of the fights for power were over.
01:21:42.820And obviously, Trump first stole the political power from them.
01:21:46.200And now it's pretty clear he's stolen the cultural power from them.
01:21:49.440You know, the right is now the cool side.
01:21:51.540And the left is like lame and cringe and old and whatever.
01:21:56.640And I just hate to see the right making the same mistakes, allowing the most radical fringe online element to act as a stand-in for what young people want or becoming drunk on the idea of their success and thinking the Democrats will never be competitive again.
01:22:19.740That's how the founders intended it to work.
01:22:21.500And so you do have to, you know, I saw Vice President Vance saying we should never not do something because the Democrats are going to do it.
01:22:47.660You know, I feel a little bit like the Lorax right now.
01:22:49.700You know, like, I come to you as a swing voter who loves Donald Trump and loves MAGA.
01:22:55.980You know, like, this is where elections are won, in that sweet spot in the middle.
01:23:01.640And so I think it's really important not to look at the mistakes the left made and be like, the mistake wasn't just the trans issue.
01:23:09.700It's that they allowed the fringe to define the entire party.
01:23:14.300And I think we have to really keep that in mind.
01:23:16.520If you want to stay competitive and you want power.
01:23:19.060I think it was Rich Lowry who said the other night, the left is the one that is constantly swinging for large pieces of federal legislation to take over control of our lives.
01:23:33.800The right generally wants states to be in control of lawmaking.
01:23:37.480And they want it to be as little and as non-intrusive as possible.
01:23:41.700So if we give this power to the Senate by eliminating minority rights, we are the ones who are going to suffer way, way more than the Democrats.
01:23:49.860And I was also making the point, Ben Shapiro spoke to this too, and Rich too, but like that President Trump, he hasn't even submitted like a bunch of huge bills that he can't get votes on.
01:24:00.240There's been a couple, like keeping men out of women's sports.
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01:30:27.600It's called Rock and Soul Portraits by Barry Morgenstein.
01:30:32.100In it, he shares his not-so-traditional training in photography and how he was front row, capturing major moments of music history and his most incredible work.
01:31:19.240You come out with this book and it's, so first of all, I wanted to say it's absolutely beautiful and it's cool looking.
01:31:25.000It's like, I'm holding it up now for the audience to see rock and soul.
01:31:28.060It's got some of the greats on the front and it's got pictures of the best and biggest names in music throughout large, beautiful, glossy photographs.
01:31:36.320Listen, if he can make me look good, you can imagine what he can do for like amazing people like Debbie Harry.
01:31:43.020So there isn't a name that's not in here in the music industry.
01:31:46.160So I guess I need to start with like, which is, which, which are the ones that are most memorable to you?
01:31:51.980Because it's like Bono, Dylan, you know, the Rolling Stones, they're all in here.
01:32:11.600I was kind of like a, he came walking in the room and after idolized him for many years, all I could do is look him in the face and just kind of say, holy blank.
01:32:24.380Well, it's like our friend James Rosen of Fox News, who told me when we were young at Fox together that he, he weeped, he was, he wept at a Beatles concert, like uncontrollably.
01:32:35.080And I told him, James, never repeat that story publicly or you'll never get laid again.