The Megyn Kelly Show - July 03, 2025


Diddy Denied Bail, Kohberger Sentencing Ahead, and Deep Dive on Biden's Autopen: AM Update 7⧸3


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

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168.08305

Word Count

2,736

Sentence Count

169

Misogynist Sentences

1


Summary

Sean Diddy Combs is found not guilty on the most serious charges he faced, but he remains behind bars for now. Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty? Yes. Brian Kohlberger pleads guilty on all counts in the vicious slaying of four University of Idaho students in exchange for not facing the death penalty. And a closer look at former President Joe Biden s frequent use of the auto pen.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Thursday, July 3rd, 2025. And this is your
00:00:08.140 AM update. I kid you not. People are pouring baby oil on one another outside this court
00:00:14.500 house. A big win for Sean Diddy Combs as the mogul is found not guilty on the most serious
00:00:20.740 charges he faced, but he remains behind bars for now. Are you pleading guilty because you
00:00:26.320 are guilty? Yes. Brian Koberger pleads guilty on all counts in the vicious slaying of four
00:00:32.540 University of Idaho students in exchange for not facing the death penalty. And a closer look at
00:00:38.360 former President Biden's frequent use of the auto pen. Who was really in charge of running the
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00:01:50.640 The judge in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial denying the defendant's request for bail Wednesday
00:01:56.840 evening following his conviction on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution.
00:02:03.360 Combs' mouth reportedly dropping at the no-bail announcement. Earlier in the day, the jury acquitting
00:02:08.920 the mogul on the three more serious charges, one count of racketeering and two counts of sex
00:02:13.600 trafficking. The jury returning the verdict shortly after beginning deliberations on Wednesday.
00:02:18.160 In total, the deliberations lasting about 13 hours across three days. Upon hearing the verdict,
00:02:24.500 Combs pumping his fist, mouthing, thank you, thank you to the jurors. Then, I'm going home
00:02:30.880 to his family. The defense asking for $1 million bond with travel restrictions while Combs awaits
00:02:37.180 sentencing. Lead prosecutor Maureen Comey requesting Combs remain in custody, saying, quote,
00:02:42.540 there is a real risk that he will flagrantly disregard orders from this court. A lawyer for
00:02:48.400 Cassie Ventura, one of Diddy's victims, submitting a letter to the judge requesting Combs not be
00:02:53.520 released. Quote, Ms. Ventura believes that Mr. Combs is likely to pose a danger to the victims who
00:02:58.580 testified in this case, including herself, as well as to the community. Deontay Nash, friend of
00:03:04.480 Ventura, who previously testified, submitting a letter to the judge, reading in part, quote,
00:03:09.220 If he is released now, I have no doubt he will see it as yet another license to continue
00:03:14.260 intimidating, threatening, and harming people who challenge or expose him. The defense arguing
00:03:19.920 the government failed to prove its most serious charge and pointing to Combs' young child and
00:03:25.120 elderly mother needing him at home. The judge, citing Combs' past violent behavior, noting the
00:03:31.960 defense attorney, quote, full-throatedly in your closing told the jury there was violence here,
00:03:36.720 end quote, concluding, quote, prior to the trial, the court denied bail and sees no reason to
00:03:42.180 reverse that now. Combs now faces up to 10 years for each count of transportation to engage in
00:03:47.920 prostitution. As the prosecution and the defense debated sentencing terms, a newly emboldened Combs
00:03:54.080 requesting to speak to the judge directly. No such exchange took place. A remote hearing is set for
00:04:01.000 Tuesday next week to address the sentencing scheduling. Brian Kohlberger accepting a highly
00:04:08.780 controversial plea deal on Wednesday, pleading guilty to all five counts against him, one count
00:04:14.420 of burglary and four of first-degree murder. Kohlberger admitting to entering a rental home near the
00:04:20.280 University of Idaho, stabbing 20-year-old Ethan Chapin, 20-year-old Zanna Kernodal, 21-year-old Madison
00:04:27.200 Mogan and 21-year-old Kaylee Gonsalves to death. Throughout the pretrial process, Kohlberger refusing
00:04:33.900 to speak, remaining silent even at his own arraignment. Wednesday in court, Kohlberger speaking
00:04:39.720 publicly for the first time and in a tone better suited for a trivia contest. Are you pleading guilty
00:04:46.520 because you are guilty? Yes. With respect to count one, burglary felony, how do you plead Mr.
00:04:52.360 Kohlberger guilty or not guilty? Guilty. As to count two, murder in the first degree as it relates
00:04:59.680 to the murder of Madison Mogan, how do you plead guilty or not guilty? Guilty. As to count three, as it
00:05:06.480 relates to murder in the first degree for the murder of Kaylee Gonsalves, how do you plead guilty or not guilty?
00:05:11.180 Guilty. As to count four, the first-degree murder of Zanna Kernodal, pardon me, a human being, how do you plead
00:05:19.780 guilty or not guilty? Guilty. As to count five, the first-degree murder of Ethan Chapin, a human being,
00:05:27.100 how do you plead guilty or not guilty? Guilty. Kohlberger avoiding the death penalty according to
00:05:32.200 the terms of this deal, the outcome shocking and outraging many, including the father of Kaylee
00:05:37.580 Gonsalves, who wanted a jury to decide Kohlberger's fate after a public trial and with the death penalty
00:05:43.920 on the table. Mr. Gonsalves releasing a statement after the plea that reads in part as follows.
00:05:50.680 The plea began with the defendant claiming responsibility for his actions with one-word
00:05:55.220 responses. All were sufficient for the court and the prosecution team, because that is what this plea
00:06:00.880 was about today, the court and the prosecution. A plea that makes everything go away for them and
00:06:06.460 lets them get back to their normal routine. This plea did not represent the victim's families.
00:06:11.160 It represented an easy way out and no answers. Former homicide prosecutor Matt Murphy Wednesday
00:06:17.420 on The Megyn Kelly Show. I'm kind of frustrated, actually. I sat on our death penalty special
00:06:24.140 circumstance committee for 15 years in Orange County. And essentially what you do in a special
00:06:29.360 murder like this, special circumstances murder, is you go through the law piece by piece and you
00:06:35.420 weigh the aggravating versus mitigating circumstances. And from that, we would make a recommendation to
00:06:42.280 the elected DA, who then makes a very somber decision whether or not to seek the death penalty
00:06:47.380 or life without possibility of parole. This case screams out for the death penalty. So my big question
00:06:53.240 here is what changed? Because it's unethical to file a death enhancement or to seek the death penalty
00:06:59.680 with the idea that you are extracting a plea. And when you hear the evidence, for me, listening to
00:07:05.960 the fact that he got a K-bar on Amazon before he moved out, this is an overwhelming case. So again,
00:07:12.520 what changed other than him deciding, other than Koberger asking to plead guilty, that changed the
00:07:17.980 assessment that this was a death penalty case? The big winner today, I hate to say it, is Brian
00:07:22.300 Koberger. And I am, I'm, I'm just, I was frustrated listening to that. Author Howard Bloom, who has
00:07:29.820 diligently covered this case with many exclusives, also criticizing the prosecutors over the plea deal
00:07:35.380 on the Megyn Kelly show. It is such a cynical decision on the part of the state to make this plea
00:07:41.860 bargain. And during the course of the recitation by Thompson, he kept on saying things, so many things
00:07:48.840 we don't know. He said, for whatever reason, we don't know exactly why he did this. The evidence
00:07:53.640 suggests these are answers that we will never get, that the families, more importantly, will never
00:07:59.180 get. The state, the town, the surviving families, they will never forget this. And I think they've
00:08:04.900 been done a real injustice by the state. Many family members of the victims appearing in court today,
00:08:10.680 visibly emotional in the presence of their loved one's murderer. NBC reporting Christy Gonsalves,
00:08:16.500 mother of Kaylee, sobbing at the mention of her daughter. Ben Mogan, father of Madison Mogan,
00:08:22.280 looking agitated, breathing heavily. The families split on the plea deal. Steve Gonsalves accusing
00:08:28.760 prosecutor Bill Thompson of making a deal with the devil. The Mogan family releasing a statement saying
00:08:34.100 they support the agreement 100 percent, believing it to be the best possible outcome. The Chapin family,
00:08:40.460 too, supported the deal. Kohlberger, now a convicted murderer, will not be allowed to appear in
00:08:45.700 civilian clothes for his sentencing hearing on July 23rd, as now he's lost the presumption of
00:08:51.760 innocence. Families of the victims will be allowed to make impact statements on that day. Kohlberger
00:08:57.580 will receive four consecutive life sentences for the murders, plus 10 years for the burglary charge.
00:09:04.460 Somewhat incredibly, he was not given life without the possibility of parole.
00:09:09.300 Coming up, who was really running the Biden White House? A look inside the investigation of who
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00:10:38.420 As America watched the clear cognitive decline of President Joe Biden throughout his presidency,
00:10:44.100 many wondered who was actually running the White House. A bombshell report by the non-profit
00:10:49.780 government watchdog The Oversight Project, finding the vast majority of White House documents with
00:10:55.620 President Biden's signature, were signed by AutoPen. An AutoPen is a mechanical device used to replicate
00:11:02.800 a signature. We spoke to the president of The Oversight Project, Mike Howell, about his investigation
00:11:08.400 and what it reveals about who was actually running the Biden White House.
00:11:13.400 We, like the rest of the country, were acutely aware of the fact that President Biden was
00:11:18.720 malfunctioning and not running the White House. And we were trying to look into the ways that
00:11:23.840 they could run a White House without a functioning president. And we basically centered on how are
00:11:28.600 they signing things? How's the paper moving as one of the ways? And so we pulled the signatures
00:11:32.580 and saw that, you know, a pattern emerged. And it was very clear that there was copy and paste
00:11:38.920 signature, not a pen device. And so we began pulling the paper to study the usage of it over time.
00:11:45.140 We basically have found that there are at least three. And there's a fourth one that we have
00:11:49.780 found that we're working on now. Versions of the signature that were used for various types of
00:11:54.380 documents to include executive orders, pardons, proclamations. And the usage of it picked up over time,
00:12:02.880 particularly in like weird scenarios in which Biden was actually in D.C. and able to sign other things.
00:12:08.980 Multiple investigations launching in the wake of these findings, including President Trump
00:12:13.280 ordering the DOJ to launch a probe last month. The House Oversight Committee also starting its
00:12:18.760 own investigation last week, summoning former Biden staff secretary Neera Tanden for more than
00:12:24.360 five hours of closed door testimony. Chairman James Comer later revealing Tanden testified she had
00:12:30.240 minimal interaction with President Biden. Howell describes the role of the staff secretary and just
00:12:36.020 how unusual it is for someone in this role to have limited face time with the president.
00:12:41.100 It is a very important job. It is the person who controls the paper flow from the president
00:12:45.900 and keeps things at the White House legal and organized traditionally, you know, a very,
00:12:50.980 very senior staffer. Neera Tanden famously was, you know, she's a Soros operative. It's her job
00:12:58.120 to basically ensure that the paper moves in accordance with, you know, policy procedure and is
00:13:03.360 legally sufficient. When you have White House senior staff that is basically not interacting with the
00:13:08.400 president, but is in charge of deploying his signature and his binding authority on documents,
00:13:14.740 it's a major, major break in past president and procedure. You shouldn't have someone in that
00:13:20.100 position of seniority that doesn't even like speak with the president to know that he actually approves
00:13:25.740 the things that you're putting his name to. She was taking orders via paper decision memos that went up to
00:13:31.460 senior staffers and came back to her. And so that the chain of commands was was was broken in that
00:13:37.440 regard. The signature was being applied without the person applying it, knowing that the president
00:13:42.680 actually signed off on it. Howell says Tanden's testimony raises questions about whether President
00:13:47.560 Biden knew what he was signing off on. She also spoke to a really irregular process in which written
00:13:56.000 decision memos would go up the chain of command from her and then would come back with just an
00:14:01.760 initial saying it's good to go. And that raises another major question. Is the decision memo the
00:14:06.820 actual text of the executive order or is it something different? One fact pattern that we could be
00:14:11.980 dealing with is a descriptive memo goes up to the president saying something to the effect of we're
00:14:18.700 going to do a bunch of executive orders. They will undo Trump's inhumane policies and they will make
00:14:24.320 everything sunshine and roses on the border. Everybody loves it. This is going to make you a
00:14:29.140 hero. And then the executive orders that come out are these really prescriptive and destructive
00:14:34.400 executive orders to undo every last aspect of border security. And so it could be something that is way
00:14:40.860 out of line with the presidential intent and dissent as to, you know, what is in the decision memo versus
00:14:47.300 what actually happens. And that's what I'm looking to see. Is there a mismatch there? That's one of the,
00:14:54.080 I think the big themes we're, we're zeroing in on. Howell describes a number of possible crimes
00:14:59.280 his group was investigating. We think there are crimes that are likely to have been committed.
00:15:04.160 Those would include impersonation. You can't impersonate a federal official. You can't forge
00:15:09.000 a signature. There could be forgery. I think there's a lot of bribery at play. I think the whole
00:15:13.640 story of the Biden family pay to play scheme over decades is one of bribery and foreign pay to play
00:15:19.100 and failure to register as foreign agents and doing work on behalf of foreign governments.
00:15:23.180 Also secondary to that, like the people who were aware that this scheme was underway and that they
00:15:29.220 were functioning the White House out of the constitutional order. And, you know, with all
00:15:34.180 these other crimes that I've mentioned potentially happening, could be guilty of misprisonment of a
00:15:38.160 felony, which is basically like a failure to report.
00:15:41.300 In June, the Biden office releasing this statement attributable to President Biden,
00:15:47.040 quote, let me be clear. I made the decisions during my presidency. I made the decisions about
00:15:52.660 the pardons, executive orders, legislation, and proclamations. Any suggestion that I didn't
00:15:58.100 is ridiculous and false. But for now, the various investigations are ongoing.
00:16:03.480 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for The Megan Kelly Show,
00:16:09.960 live on SiriusXM try-up channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash megankelly, and on all podcast
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