The Megyn Kelly Show - Diddy Enablers Exposed, Legacy Media Hacks, and Meghan's ＂Working Mom＂ Narrative, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 1079

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00:00:30.680 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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00:00:42.080 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.840 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:46.340 Lots to get to today including more on the cover-up

00:00:48.900 of former President Biden's cognitive decline.

00:00:51.440 And I mean, I really feel like we need to say

00:00:54.060 attempted cover-up.

00:00:56.000 Attempted.

00:00:56.560 We knew.

00:00:58.060 Anyone with eyes and ears knew.

00:01:00.000 But there was more to it than was publicly revealed

00:01:03.500 and that's starting to come out.

00:01:05.040 And by the way, it's going to keep coming out.

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00:01:16.960 That's America.

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00:03:45.900 Maureen Callahan, welcome.

00:03:48.480 Well, thank you, Megan Kelly.

00:03:49.800 Oh, it's so fun to have you.

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00:04:27.060 Okay, so there's a lot to go over.

00:04:29.020 I think we should start with Diddy because—

00:04:30.840 Let's do it. 0.99

00:04:32.040 Like, can we just put—let me put the legality to the side for one second and just start with what an incredible, disgusting dirtbag we're learning he is. 0.97

00:04:40.460 He denies everything. 0.98

00:04:41.440 He denies everything.

00:04:42.360 He doesn't deny smacking her and kicking her and hitting her on the intercontinental tape.

00:04:47.560 So we know he did that. 0.99

00:04:48.580 But witness by witness, what we're seeing is this guy's a monster. 0.87

00:04:54.360 We've had his former assistants come forward.

00:04:57.060 To talk about the abuse they witnessed this week, there was one saying he quit because he just couldn't stand the amount of abuse that he was heaping, not just on star witness Cassie Ventura, but other women, too.

00:05:08.720 And just pretty much everybody who takes the stand has another story about Diddy abusing some woman.

00:05:14.420 I mean, brutally abusing them.

00:05:16.880 Yes, and even his, I believe, PA, his personal assistant, was brutalized for—Diddy sent him to go to Whole Foods.

00:05:23.840 I just—I love the details, right?

00:05:25.540 Like the Quodidian details where you're like, oh, Diddy's like shopping at Whole Foods or buying baby oil in bulk at Costco, right?

00:05:32.940 Like the sort of pedestrian things that, you know, you or I might engage in.

00:05:35.900 And he said, go get me a gallon, a gallon of some kind of ionized water.

00:05:41.460 I don't know.

00:05:42.120 They didn't have a gallon in stock.

00:05:43.420 So he comes back with two half gallons, equaling one gallon, but he was savage for that because Diddy wanted the one—so it's like those details.

00:05:52.160 But this week has seen so many great characters.

00:05:55.600 Like my favorite was the Punisher.

00:05:57.620 Yeah, you're right. 0.98

00:05:58.420 The sex worker.

00:06:00.000 Okay, the sex worker who is dressed like something out of a Marvel comic, like an S&M Marvel comic, right? 0.60

00:06:06.660 Like the mask with the spikes on it and then like this and that, and he's got—he's published, it's self-published a book called Freezer Meat.

00:06:14.900 That was an interesting moment where they asked him why.

00:06:18.040 And the feds had the front and back cover in full color of the illo.

00:06:23.660 Like, it's like wild stuff's going on.

00:06:25.740 And so the Punisher, who I need to start following on Instagram— 0.99

00:06:29.440 Right, right.

00:06:29.880 He needs to become part of our life.

00:06:31.180 Definitely.

00:06:32.200 So he's talking about—his book Freezer Meat was about erectile dysfunction.

00:06:37.380 Right.

00:06:37.820 And he had trouble performing for Diddy and Cassie.

00:06:42.240 And Diddy, who he first—the first encounter, in comes this like oiled up black man, naked except for a burka. 0.99

00:06:50.480 Like, it's these details where you're like, what's going on in these hotel rooms?

00:06:56.500 Like, it's kind of funny.

00:06:58.020 Like, there's something like—

00:06:59.120 It's crazy.

00:06:59.640 His dignity, whatever dignity Sean Combs may have had remain—is being stripped away.

00:07:03.940 Like, with every single witness who gets on that stand, you know?

00:07:06.900 Yes.

00:07:07.280 So they—the lawyer asked him, why would you call your book Freezer Meat?

00:07:12.500 And he said, what's harder than that?

00:07:15.040 And his book is about erectile dysfunction.

00:07:17.660 What's harder than Freezer Meat?

00:07:19.680 And I can think of a couple of things.

00:07:21.380 But in any event, that is him, I guess, being self-deprecating.

00:07:24.400 But yeah, I guess he's had a problem with this, which, I mean, frankly, he's in the wrong line of work because you can get away with that as a news anchor.

00:07:31.480 Nobody would ever know.

00:07:32.600 Like, if you're going into the sex worker trade, it does become an issue, I imagine. 0.94

00:07:37.040 And he was talking about how, I imagine, when you're having, like, forced sex or sex acts with Cassie Ventura and somebody's watching you, what he suggested was he'd been performing oral on her. 0.92

00:07:50.440 And then Diddy wanted him to, you know, go the next level. 0.98

00:07:53.520 And he couldn't.

00:07:54.540 And so he's writing about, like, this erectile dysfunction problem, talking about it, that he's having in the midst of this so-called freak-off, making him perhaps not the ideal candidate for the freak-off.

00:08:05.740 But all of this is just background to, like, the serial, weird sexual obsessions of P. Diddy and his treating Cassie Ventura like she was a piece of meat, like she was his property.

00:08:19.720 That's what we're getting.

00:08:20.740 Yes.

00:08:20.940 And some of the more harrowing testimony, I think, came from Cassie's mother, who got on the stand and said, Sean Combs personally called her.

00:08:29.600 Like, he could have had one of his henchmen do it, but he personally called her and said, if you don't give me $20,000, I am going to release a sex tape of your daughter. 1.00

00:08:38.880 This woman is not for money, okay? 1.00

00:08:41.080 She had to refinance her house to get $20,000, which, for Sean Combs, is like changing the couch cushions.

00:08:47.620 You know what I mean?

00:08:48.060 He's got that in that Gucci bag he has his security guard carrying around.

00:08:51.120 He's running around with, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars so he can pay people off at these hotels, right?

00:08:56.000 She had to refinance her house, which takes months to do.

00:08:59.320 And so she's living in fear that her daughter will be humiliated in this way by this monster who then takes the $20,000 from her. 0.99

00:09:09.160 You know, like, that's a kind of sadism that is so—I mean, he is psychologically such a sick, sick, sick person. 0.98

00:09:18.200 And, you know, I heard your coverage of it earlier this week. 0.97

00:09:21.360 Like, whether or not he's found guilty, he's done.

00:09:23.760 He's done.

00:09:24.540 He better be.

00:09:25.700 I mean, I feel like you and I will do our level best to make sure that's the case.

00:09:29.160 He's been a serial bully for the people who work for him, for the women he dates.

00:09:33.940 And the mother, yeah, she gets—she was only on the stand for 30 minutes, but she told that story.

00:09:38.340 And then once she gives it to him, she's had to remortgage her house. 0.99

00:09:41.160 She gets the $20,000.

00:09:42.180 She gives it to him.

00:09:43.320 A couple days pass, he gives it back.

00:09:45.360 Oh, I guess he had, like, an attack of conscience.

00:09:47.360 Like, oh, maybe I shouldn't be harassing my girlfriend's mother for money she doesn't have.

00:09:52.160 But I think he does enjoy the exercise of just making people subjugate themselves to him and seeing, especially with women, how much he can demean them and demoralize them.

00:10:02.880 There's been testimony this week that he had—he sat next to Cassie on a plane, and I can't remember whether it was—it must have been a private jet, but I thought they were saying it was a public jet.

00:10:14.220 There were certainly other people around, and he made her look at video he had taken of one of the freak-offs, and he threatened her, saying he would release it.

00:10:23.940 Like, he was ready to use this and publicly humiliate her if she didn't do what he wanted.

00:10:29.520 So on the one hand, you have that stuff, and you have the video of the beating, and you have had multiple witnesses testify about seeing him beat her.

00:10:39.180 Her friend got on the stand and testified to that.

00:10:41.760 She just had a makeup artist get on the stand and say she saw her after he had beaten her with knots all over her head, a fat lip, a black eye. 1.00

00:10:50.400 The makeup artist tried to help her.

00:10:52.980 The assistant to Sean Diddy Combs saying, I had to quit because I couldn't take the beatings.

00:10:57.100 Cassie only testified to a few of these.

00:10:58.700 She said it happened regularly, but the prosecution didn't even bring out every beating.

00:11:03.300 It was like all these other people who remember, oh, no, there was this beating and that beating and another beating.

00:11:08.100 And what the defense is trying to hang its hat onto is there's testimony from her saying, you know, why didn't you leave?

00:11:15.560 And, yes, she did testify.

00:11:17.000 I felt threatened and so on.

00:11:18.060 I was afraid of him.

00:11:18.680 But also she testified and admitted she loved him and she did enjoy the lifestyle.

00:11:25.400 She liked the cars and she liked the homes.

00:11:27.900 And the defense is going to try to drive a truck through that. 0.98

00:11:31.000 They put on Kid Cudi yesterday, this rapper.

00:11:34.500 Yeah.

00:11:35.040 And separate and apart from the arson charge that he's trying to build, they're trying to build with him.

00:11:39.820 He painted Cassie as not all that great because he suggested she was dating him while lying about the fact that she had left Diddy when she hadn't.

00:11:47.800 And he used the word played.

00:11:49.720 She played me.

00:11:50.940 She played me and she played him.

00:11:52.900 Right.

00:11:53.180 And the defense, too, is they're going to try to paint her as like this manipulative, strong there of her own volition.

00:12:01.720 She loved the car.

00:12:02.620 She loved the lavish lifestyle.

00:12:04.400 She could have left at any time.

00:12:05.920 She arranged the freak off.

00:12:07.120 She called the sex workers. 0.99

00:12:08.920 And I just think, yes, that's what they have to argue.

00:12:11.720 But if you look at the greater context of the proof going in on that case, Maureen, it's just so clear that there was an overlying control that he had of her almost from the very beginning.

00:12:23.300 I think there's no question about that.

00:12:24.860 As for Kid Cudi, it's sort of like, you know, she played me.

00:12:28.240 OK, well, you're a grown man, you know, and you're in like a very flashy, fast moving industry.

00:12:33.620 I'm sure she wasn't like you're one and only.

00:12:35.760 Sorry.

00:12:36.300 OK.

00:12:36.500 And then the testimony he gave about Sean Combs blowing up his Porsche.

00:12:41.840 This is crazy.

00:12:42.940 Remember when you and I talked about this?

00:12:44.480 We it was just a rumor.

00:12:45.780 You know, she had made an allegation in her complaint or civil complaint, which he settled the next day.

00:12:49.800 But we didn't know if it was true.

00:12:51.340 And now you've got the actual singer Kid Cudi on the stand.

00:12:54.780 And go ahead.

00:12:56.020 So they months later, they have a summit, Diddy and Cudi.

00:12:59.860 OK, the summit was at the Soho House in L.A.

00:13:03.360 OK, where everyone has their big so it's after after you.

00:13:06.320 I'm going to blow up my luxury vehicle.

00:13:08.260 Let's meet for a cocktail at the Soho House and talk this out like in an elegant way.

00:13:12.500 We're going soon.

00:13:13.800 You know, so how bad is it?

00:13:15.720 You know, how bad is it now?

00:13:16.800 I believe that the prosecution is putting on a witness, much as the prosecution did in the Harvey case, round one, which went to speaking to how victims of sexual violence or domestic violence often are in love with their abuser.

00:13:30.980 They did.

00:13:31.320 They put on a woman who testified in a few of these cases.

00:13:35.740 She was a witness in Amber versus Johnny.

00:13:37.980 And I maybe the Weinstein can't remember the second case.

00:13:41.280 But she testified just in general.

00:13:43.160 She hadn't examined Diddy, but she was testifying to that dynamic in domestic abuse relationships.

00:13:48.820 And I'll never forget the details in Cassie's lawsuit, her civil filing against Diddy, which went to there were two incredibly violent things.

00:13:56.680 One, he had her get breast implants in L.A. 1.00

00:13:59.360 Oh, that's right.

00:14:00.320 And the day after he was like, I don't like the way these look.

00:14:03.020 And he took her back to the surgeon and said, remove them and put in different ones. 0.95

00:14:06.920 And the surgeon said, I can't.

00:14:08.640 She needs to heal first.

00:14:09.900 And this surgeon then said, like, Diddy made him fear for his life.

00:14:12.560 And he did it.

00:14:13.440 He did it.

00:14:14.520 And then the other one was after they left some awards event, he began stomping her face in the back of an SUV.

00:14:21.420 And the driver slash bodyguard tried to intervene. 0.86

00:14:24.980 And Diddy was like, if I recall correctly, basically, I'll kill you if you don't back off. 0.98

00:14:29.660 This is my woman and I'll do what I want with her. 0.73

00:14:31.420 That was one of the rare times someone tried to intervene because what we've seen these past two weeks is people under his employer, under his thumb, not intervening and feeling really bad about it, feeling disgusted with themselves for allowing it to happen.

00:14:46.420 But I think they all knew like they were afraid of him.

00:14:49.300 I think so, too.

00:14:49.960 You know, they didn't know what he was capable of.

00:14:52.180 I think they knew what he was capable of.

00:14:54.040 Right.

00:14:54.420 Right.

00:14:54.720 That's the better question.

00:14:55.760 Yeah.

00:14:56.060 Like, what was he capable of?

00:14:57.160 I mean, I think, you know, from a legal aspect, I'm really interested in your thoughts because, you know, what I love is that the prosecution has video and you can't lie your way out of video.

00:15:05.700 OK.

00:15:06.140 And the jury seeing those still photos of the freak offs and two members at least visibly recoiled.

00:15:12.400 And it takes a lot for a New York jury to be disgusted.

00:15:14.840 It's true.

00:15:17.220 What do you think the prosecution is building towards?

00:15:19.560 Do you think they are building towards interstate sex trafficking?

00:15:23.040 Because other than that, like, yes, he's disgusting, but he's not on trial for domestic violence.

00:15:27.880 Well, so it's it's complicated.

00:15:30.760 I think they've got him on the transportation to engage in prostitution count.

00:15:34.340 That's the third count.

00:15:35.240 It's only got a year's penalty, but he's got multiple potential offenses on it.

00:15:38.860 But it's the least serious of the charges brought against him.

00:15:42.340 They've had so much testimony that he did.

00:15:44.300 He did pay prostitutes. 0.89

00:15:46.040 You know, she was calling. 0.96

00:15:47.540 What was it called?

00:15:48.680 Like cowboys for angels.

00:15:50.580 There's so we are not living a big life.

00:15:53.960 OK, there's a lot of sad. 0.84

00:15:55.760 Like, I just like one invitation to a sex party. 0.88

00:15:58.220 Just one.

00:15:59.020 Well, we went to space and we didn't fake Megan Markle.

00:16:02.420 Like, maybe next we need to make a phone call to cowboys for angels and see who shows up.

00:16:06.780 Maybe we'll see.

00:16:07.860 Sure. 0.58

00:16:08.840 So anyway, they they they've proven beyond a doubt that he was engaging in, you know, hiring and transporting prostitutes.

00:16:16.400 But you've got sex trafficking by fraud or coercion is this is the middle count.

00:16:23.940 And originally, I thought that the the sex trafficking involved the prostitute and the coercion involved Cassie.

00:16:33.380 Like he was kind of forcing Cassie to be in this room.

00:16:36.600 And no question, there was a sex worker in there. 1.00

00:16:38.760 But I've since come to understand from sources close to the case.

00:16:42.800 That's not it.

00:16:44.080 That it's Cassie who's been sex trafficked in the theory of the prosecutors.

00:16:50.820 OK, that it's that they are arguing he by coercion or fraud, et cetera.

00:16:57.980 But I think they're going with coercion forced her to engage in these freak offs. 1.00

00:17:03.220 Not every single time.

00:17:04.280 Right.

00:17:04.500 Of course.

00:17:05.040 Of course.

00:17:05.380 But many, many times and even during certain times on like the back end.

00:17:09.680 Maybe she was there voluntarily in the front end. 0.92

00:17:11.880 But then, you know, but overall, I think they're going to argue that right after the beginning of the relationship,

00:17:16.900 things switched to a place where she did not want to be doing this.

00:17:20.700 And she was only there because she was afraid of him or he was threatening her or she knew she was going to be publicly humiliated by the tapes getting released or he was going to beat her again.

00:17:31.220 And so they're arguing he was forcing her to sex traffic herself in these freak offs.

00:17:36.200 That's the theory.

00:17:37.460 And they're doing a pretty good job.

00:17:39.180 You know, they're they're doing an excellent job, to be honest.

00:17:41.620 Just the defense to it is her voluntarily calling the sex workers. 1.00

00:17:46.500 And I use that term in quotes voluntarily.

00:17:48.720 Was it or wasn't it?

00:17:49.580 The jury will have to decide her texts saying, I can't wait to freak off again.

00:17:55.340 But again, there's another text saying, I can't wait to freak out.

00:17:58.900 It's great.

00:17:59.400 I love the freak offs when we both want them.

00:18:02.080 Oh, she said that.

00:18:03.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.440 Interesting.

00:18:04.180 And you also have to wonder, like, at what point is she just trying to placate him?

00:18:07.440 Right.

00:18:08.100 I love the freak offs.

00:18:09.000 It's like, does she, you know, it's like putting an emoji at the end of something or just like, whatever.

00:18:13.100 But, you know, the other thing is she got with him.

00:18:15.540 I think she was 19 and he was maybe 30.

00:18:18.960 Very well established.

00:18:20.720 Immediately a power dynamic right there.

00:18:23.120 She's bringing he's bringing her into this world.

00:18:25.980 There was there was that little bit of testimony that I thought was really salient that he brought Britney Spears to her birthday party when they first were dating.

00:18:32.800 That was like a flex.

00:18:34.260 He at one point made her shave her head.

00:18:36.580 There are images of her with like half of her head shaved. 0.72

00:18:39.780 And she's such a beautiful woman.

00:18:41.220 It doesn't impede her beauty at all.

00:18:42.820 But I think it was a way of him trying to strip her of that power she had, her own beauty.

00:18:47.960 And then the other thing we were reminded of this week was Wendy Williams saying long ago, everyone in the hip hop community knows Sean Combs is gay.

00:18:59.880 Makes sense.

00:19:00.540 This is what he thinks of women. 1.00

00:19:01.600 He's such a misogynist. 1.00

00:19:02.520 He beats the shit out of them on the regular. 1.00

00:19:04.160 And that he tried to have her fired or successfully had her fired from a gig. 0.98

00:19:09.560 And I mean, that's the kind of level of power he was trying to execute all over the place, like trying to take somebody's livelihood because, you know, I mean.

00:19:18.800 Do we have that soundbite?

00:19:20.060 I thought we pulled that Wendy Williams thing because she got fired from her job for making a comment. 1.00

00:19:26.000 Oh, we do.

00:19:26.720 Oh, yeah.

00:19:26.980 She was working for Hot 97.

00:19:28.400 Just want to clarify.

00:19:29.300 My team's saying that the prostitution charge has a has a 10 year potential sentence.

00:19:34.660 I I got to go back and look at that because I remember looking at this and seeing it was one in any event, one to 10, let's say.

00:19:41.100 And he's 18 years older than she is.

00:19:43.400 So she I mean, she was a kid.

00:19:45.200 19.

00:19:45.640 He's 18 years older.

00:19:46.620 Oh, that's significant.

00:19:47.700 And when he met her at 19, he was almost twice her age. 0.95

00:19:51.000 I mean, like, that's ridiculous.

00:19:51.940 Not to mention one of the most powerful rich men in music and in the country. 0.87

00:19:56.840 All right.

00:19:57.020 So here's Wendy Williams. 1.00

00:19:58.000 This is back in 1998 in the call that got her fired from Hot 97.

00:20:06.040 Sot 28.

00:20:07.940 I just want to know.

00:20:09.020 I mean, every do you really think that every player is gay or every other player? 0.99

00:20:13.540 Are you a little gay obsessed? 0.97

00:20:15.940 Do you think? 0.98

00:20:16.300 I'm not gay obsessed and every other would be an exaggeration, but I would say two out of 10.

00:20:22.400 OK.

00:20:23.640 In in sports and five out of 10 in music.

00:20:28.820 OK.

00:20:29.600 Yes.

00:20:30.080 And I don't think that's gay obsessed.

00:20:31.640 I think that's after being in this business for over 20 something years and seeing things from the inside out and the outside in.

00:20:38.840 So next thing she knows, she's fired.

00:20:42.620 And then again, that was 1998.

00:20:45.700 And then she spoke to Howard Stern in 2006.

00:20:49.400 And he brought it up.

00:20:51.160 Watch this.

00:20:53.580 Did you get fired for making fun of Puffy?

00:20:55.880 Something like that.

00:20:56.620 Well, listen, you figure it out.

00:20:59.220 You do the music of what was playing back in 1980, 1998 on the majority of every radio station 25 times an hour.

00:21:07.900 OK, it's not a denial.

00:21:10.820 And the last but not least, Diddy went on the Wendy Williams show in 2017.

00:21:17.520 So now we're, you know, many years after her firing, almost 20 years after her firing because of that comment.

00:21:25.660 And he makes some comment about her son.

00:21:29.400 Watch this.

00:21:30.940 As the mother of a now 16 year old.

00:21:33.760 Who I met backstage.

00:21:35.640 He did.

00:21:36.700 He's a great, great young man.

00:21:37.820 Oh, thank you.

00:21:42.020 You represent a lot.

00:21:44.300 You can see how awkward she is as soon as she hears they met.

00:21:50.580 And he's now got a visual on the sun.

00:21:54.080 And I would submit to you, Wendy Williams was concerned to hear that the two of them had had an exchange backstage.

00:22:00.420 Well, I think that's very, that clip is really interesting because it takes a lot to trip Wendy Williams up.

00:22:07.040 I mean, this is a woman who would get on TV five days a week, much as you do, and speak extemporaneously, you know. 1.00

00:22:12.300 And she's, this is her world.

00:22:14.420 She's been in it forever.

00:22:15.640 And Sean Combs, you can tell she's, my opinion, that she's taking that as a not so thinly veiled threat.

00:22:23.920 Okay.

00:22:24.580 You've got your life back now.

00:22:26.040 You've got your job back now.

00:22:27.280 I allowed that for you.

00:22:29.060 Oh, your 16 year old son is backstage.

00:22:31.060 You can't tell me she didn't know the stories about Usher.

00:22:33.180 A 14 year old Usher who's fed to him for at least a year in that townhouse, who later told Rolling Stone that he would walk around that townhouse and peek through bedroom doors that were left open and see orgies happening.

00:22:47.640 You know, the depravity.

00:22:49.560 And you can't, you know, we're all watching Justin Bieber decline before our very eyes.

00:22:55.060 And, you know, he, he issued a statement or his people issued a statement this week that said he is not a victim.

00:23:00.500 Please leave him alone.

00:23:01.700 But, you know, I think we're all looking at what seems to be the severity of the collateral damage.

00:23:09.880 And, you know, we'll see what else comes out.

00:23:13.140 You know, when stuff like this happens and people begin, I'm, I'm amazed that Cassie feels emboldened enough at like nearly nine months pregnant.

00:23:19.940 Knowing the, knowing this guy, the feds would, he, he tried to get bail three times and every judge said, no, he is a danger to potential witnesses.

00:23:29.060 I mean, and she's the star witness.

00:23:31.360 It must've been important to her because any woman knows that, you know, two weeks from delivery, you know, you're feeling emotional.

00:23:39.800 You're worried about your baby.

00:23:41.400 You don't want that amount of cortisol running through your body, you know, when you're about to give birth to another human.

00:23:46.020 And yet she got herself up there and the prosecution knew that she was about to have this kid and that it would be a much different story.

00:23:52.120 She probably wouldn't do it after he or she is born. 0.98

00:23:54.400 So they got her on the stand.

00:23:56.020 A word about Bieber, um, and through no particular source, but I will say that a source with knowledge of Bieber has suggested to us recently that he may have other issues that are causing the public meltdown.

00:24:11.580 Now having nothing to do with Diddy and they did put out that statement saying he's not one of Diddy's victims.

00:24:17.220 Now I wouldn't expect them to say he is one.

00:24:20.060 So take it for whatever it's worth.

00:24:22.400 Um, but it may be that Justin Bieber's got problems with other people that are causing what we're seeing on, on camera.

00:24:28.300 Bottom line for me is don't let your kid become a child star.

00:24:31.240 Uh, 100%.

00:24:32.360 Doesn't matter how much money you think you can get.

00:24:35.060 And doesn't matter how happy you think it will make them.

00:24:37.600 It won't.

00:24:38.220 It won't.

00:24:38.900 Might make them temporarily happy.

00:24:40.600 They're a star.

00:24:41.540 They feel cool.

00:24:42.520 They all crash and burn.

00:24:44.600 All crash and burn.

00:24:45.920 I mean, think of it.

00:24:46.740 There's like maybe one example, maybe Jodie Foster, maybe.

00:24:50.040 Yeah.

00:24:50.300 If you really search to try to find somebody, but the vast majority, even if they wind up okay in the long run, like a Drew Barrymore, go through the Drew Barrymore addict stage where the mother's taking him to parties and they're taking drugs at age eight or whatever her story is.

00:25:05.060 It's just not, it's not worth it.

00:25:07.160 Um, wanted to go back to the kid Cuddy testimony because it was very interesting.

00:25:12.540 Um, I do want to correct something on the morning update today.

00:25:15.840 Uh, rare mistake.

00:25:17.160 We said the kid Cuddy took the stand on Wednesday.

00:25:18.960 And in fact, he took the stand on Thursday.

00:25:20.920 Just a clarification.

00:25:22.220 Um, here's what he testified to.

00:25:24.640 He said he met Ventura in 2008 and they were just friends.

00:25:27.280 They started dating around 2011.

00:25:29.340 Uh, he thought that they were having problems, Ventura and Combs.

00:25:33.160 By 2011, that they weren't dating anymore.

00:25:35.860 And, uh, Combs told kid Cuddy by phone in December, 2011, that he wanted to talk to him because he understood there might be something going on with.

00:25:44.340 Diddy's girl and kid Cuddy.

00:25:46.740 And, uh, so he said he left the hotel he was at with Ventura and went home to his house, kid Cuddy's house.

00:25:53.960 And, um, he found that there had been a break in directly following the phone call.

00:25:58.800 Kid Cuddy returned home.

00:26:00.240 Combs was not there, however, but he found his security cameras had been moved.

00:26:04.700 Gifts he bought for his family had been opened and his dog was locked in the bathroom, which he testified was disturbing to him.

00:26:14.660 Um, after the break in kid Cuddy spent the holidays with Ventura's family and received a few texts from Combs.

00:26:20.020 But the rapper was not interested in talking to him, citing that he believed Combs, uh, and he believed Combs was responsible for the break in, said kid Cuddy, noting that he filed a police report over it.

00:26:29.940 So he was concerned, right?

00:26:32.260 He, he definitely thought he was being harassed, uh, by, by Sean Diddy Combs over this blossoming relationship with Cassie Ventura.

00:26:40.520 Yeah. Then, uh, this was, okay. December, 2011 in 2011, January, 2012, kid Cuddy said his dog watcher called him from his home to tell him his car was on fire.

00:26:52.580 I hate when that happens, right? I mean, that last time we had that argument over space, next thing I knew my Beamer was gone.

00:26:59.740 I don't know anything about it.

00:27:01.220 But looking at the photos, kid Cuddy explained, it looked quote, like the top of my Porsche was cut open and that's where the Molotov cocktail was put in, causing further damage that could not be salvaged.

00:27:13.640 Combs and kid Cuddy then met in person. Oh, look, this is the picture for the listening audience.

00:27:18.080 Oh my God.

00:27:18.800 We're looking at his Porsche, which does not look like a Porsche. I don't even know what that is. I guess that's the top. Is that the soft top of his Porsche? Can't even.

00:27:27.180 I can't tell if it's a hard top or not.

00:27:29.060 I have no idea, but it no longer looks like a car. Oh, that's the seat. Oh, look, that's like the seat that's been, that been on fire.

00:27:38.220 That looks like a hard top. It looks like shattered glass.

00:27:40.280 That looks like a hard top that's been ripped open. And I guess a Molotov cocktail dropped in. So this is the, the apex of the testimony here. He says, um, finally, he asked him for a meeting. He said, I figured I better talk to him. Things were escalating.

00:27:55.020 And clearly this guy who is like kind of bad-ass in his own right was afraid of Sean Combs because he didn't know what he was capable of. But to your point, or did he?

00:28:04.460 Uh, he said Kid Cudi arrived to his meeting who was with him and Combs was alone. He said, quote, Combs was standing there staring out the window at this, uh, Soho house out the, staring at the window with his hands behind his back, like a Marvel supervillain.

00:28:19.740 And the pair went on to discuss Kid Cudi's relationship with Ventura from start to finish.

00:28:24.160 She testified when Kid Cudi asked Combs about the damage to his car. Combs said, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:28:31.480 Kid Cudi didn't believe him. Uh, they ran into each other years later, uh, 2015. So three years later at a club, Combs pulled Kid Cudi aside and Kid Cudi said Combs apologized to him.

00:28:44.220 Kid Cudi added, he found peace with the situation after that. Uh, Kid Cudi did testify that Cassie Ventura told him there was physical abuse in her relationship with Combs that he would sometimes hit and kick her, which bothered Kid Cudi, but he did not hear about any sexual abuse.

00:29:04.660 But there it is looking like a Marvel supervillain, which by the way, there was no objection to, which I would have objected to had I been interesting. Yeah. Sean's a lawyer, but that image is now it's seared, right? Like with the hands behind the back, you can picture it.

00:29:21.560 Oh yeah. And I actually would never have assumed that Combs was alone. He may have been standing alone, but I would assume he's got guys all over that room or like cameras all over that room.

00:29:31.380 My other question. So first of all, I was talking to the Daily Mail reporter who's in that courtroom every day. And when the, um, the apology came up, I said, well, did Sean Combs offer to pay him back? No. Class does not exist with this guy on any level. You know, I'm sorry. I blew up your car, but I'm not going to give you the money. Okay. Right. Um, but you know, the other thing is sort of like the Kid Cudi stuff is just remarkable to me. Again, I can't believe this guy is testifying.

00:30:00.160 I can't believe he's not afraid. And I can't believe that like Usher's name came in this week. I think there are many other people who are very worried about their names coming in. You know, I go back to this LeBron, uh, video that was a zoom between, uh, him and Diddy and Diddy's on the top panel and, and LeBron's on the bottom.

00:30:22.160 And LeBron is saying, ain't no party like a Diddy party. And they're all laughing, you know, I, you know, the, the, the amount of people who knew, and, you know, to your point, the last time we talked about it, like perhaps it's just normalized in that world. Like it's a sex party, it's a sex and drug party and stuff gets crazy. And that's it. But I find it hard to, like the way Wendy Williams blanched, he just said, Oh, I met your kid backstage.

00:30:48.420 And she, you know, no, it would be terrifying. Yeah. I mean, I remember interviewing Vladimir Putin and, um, it was getting tense between us and he mentioned my children.

00:31:01.100 What? Yeah. And I remember like, okay, I see what's happening here. I mean, this is what people do. It's like an implicit threat. It's just letting you know, they're aware of what's important to you. And that's all, that's all it takes. You don't have to be more explicit than that. And, and, you know, it's one thing LeBron to know about sex parties. It's quite another to know about beatings, regular beatings, which are illegal.

00:31:29.480 That is one, a sex party isn't necessarily illegal. It is technically if you hire sex workers and if you're allegedly trafficking the other participant, but there's no question that repeated beatings, that's a battery. It's an assault. It can be a lot more. And everybody in the Diddy circle looked the other way and very few of any intervened to help her. They allowed it.

00:31:53.240 Here's the next guy, George Kaplan, former assistant to Sean Diddy Combs. He prior to testifying and without the jury present invoked his fifth amendment. Whoa. He was like, I am not saying anything cause I will be incriminated. And the prosecution offered him an immunity deal, which he then took. The judge watched him sign it. And once you sign an immunity deal, you can no longer assert the fifth amendment. So he was forced to take the stand. The jury didn't know he had signed that.

00:32:17.000 I think they, I think they thought he was just there voluntarily. And he testified about three incidents, instances where he witnessed violence from Sean Combs twice with Cassie Ventura in 2015 on Combs's private jet.

00:32:30.820 Uh, and then another incident later in the year where he said he saw Ventura with visible injuries at one of Combs's homes. He testified to witnessing yet another round of violent behavior where he saw Combs throw a number of decorative or real. He wasn't sure which green apples at another girlfriend hard. He said like really trying to whip her with them. He was unsure if any of them actually hit the woman, but it wasn't for lack of trying.

00:32:56.660 Um, he said he was the guy during his period of employment where he had to go clean up the hotel rooms after Combs was in there. He was worried that hotel staff would try to sell content from his room to the magazines to try to make money. Uh, he gave notice. He was leaving in September 15 and finally left in December of 2015. Uh, saying quote, the central reason that I left my job as Mr. Combs assistant was that I was not comfortable or aligned with the physical behavior that had been going on.

00:33:26.100 That I had seen pieces of over the course of a couple of months. Uh, and then there's Mila Morales, former makeup artist for Combs and Ventura, who said when she first met Cassie, Cassie was 16. She was so young. This is three years before she was introduced to Diddy. And, um, she was doing her makeup regularly when she signed with Bad Boy Records, his label in 2007.

00:33:47.160 And she was like a younger sister to Maya. She witnessed after a party at Prince's house, Ventura and Morales, the makeup artist, went back to a hotel room. This is around Grammy weekend, 2010.

00:34:01.540 And Combs made his way to the room where Ventura was, closed the door behind him and yelling and screaming ensued, Morales said. When Combs stormed out, Ventura was distraught with a swollen eye, a busted lip and knots on her head. The makeup artist took Ventura to her home where she stayed for a few days. Morales did not call the police because she feared Combs and she feared for her life.

00:34:21.160 She had a doctor friend look at Ventura who said she needed to go to the emergency room. Ventura refused. The pair never spoke of the incident again. And there was testimony by another witness that, um, she saw Combs, um, try to hit Ventura with a cast iron skillet that she was making eggs in.

00:34:41.320 And, um, then he whipped, uh, I don't think I'm conflating my two. There's been so much evidence of abuse, but I think that this is the one woman's testimony. He tried to whip a wooden hanger at her head. And then the next thing, uh, she knew Cassie asked to see her. They had lunch together and Cassie had $30,000 for her in a nondisclosure agreement and said, just, you're making too big a deal out of it. And the woman signed the NDA and the friendship ended with Cassie.

00:35:11.320 Because the woman just couldn't take the amount of abuse Cassie was getting. And now she'd been dragged into it. I mean, that's what people like, look, people who just want to run cover for Diddy are focusing on the testimony that I've mentioned, you know, that she has emails suggesting she wanted the freak offs from time to time. She testified the lifestyle was important to her and she didn't want to leave it. And there was some strain of materialism in her. Um, she quote played Kid Cudi and Diddy, which the defense is going to try to say what kind she's empowered. 0.99

00:35:40.160 What, what, what victim who's feeling controlled would cheat on the abuser and be controlling another man. That's where the, but there, there is a tidal wave of evidence that he was abusing her. Everyone saw it over years. We've covered the whole gamut. This is 15 of this abuse, the 16 intercontinental issue, the 2011 and 2012 stuff, Kid Cudi and like it went on for years.

00:36:05.160 And this clearly was not an empowered woman who felt comfortable dealing with him from any position of power.

00:36:13.160 I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, I think one of the things we're coming to terms with as a culture, and we're really maturing in terms of understanding the nuances of victims of domestic violence is that there is no perfect victim.

00:36:25.520 There is no, you, you, you, there is no perfect victim. And the level, the, the violence with which he assaulted her, you know, going for the head.

00:36:35.640 So often, he was trying to disfigure her. He was trying to mar her beauty. And that video that we all saw of him kicking her in that hotel elevator bank slash hallway.

00:36:47.320 That to me is a woman who's been there so many times before she went limp. She was like a possum. She went like a, she shaped herself like a C to cover her internal organs. She was just going to take it as best as she could. I don't know if it becomes kidnapping once she's, it does leave. Okay, great. 0.98

00:37:05.400 It does. Him dragging her down the hall and putting her back in that hotel room is kidnapping right there.

00:37:09.360 Good. I thought so. And then you're not telling me that he's done this to her and there aren't a legion of women out there. He's also done this too.

00:37:17.340 Because guys like this don't do it to just one person. And that says to me, there are many women out there who are still far too afraid of Diddy to file a civil suit or to raise their hand and say, if you want me prosecution, I'll testify, you know?

00:37:32.760 Well, think about one of the testimonials this week was from the agent who conducted the raid on his Miami home. Two of his homes were raided. And of course it was tons of baby oil and tons of lube.

00:37:44.440 Don't forget the AR-15s.

00:37:46.020 Well, that's where I was going. And, and so the guns, he found parts of guns disassembled. He found a fully intact gun in his security shack. And the Diddy Cross examination was basically, you realize he's one of the most well-known figures in the world and people want to kill him.

00:38:00.200 And yes, of course he would have an armed security guard around him, but let's not pretend Diddy is not a violent man for the record. He denies these charges, but he's a violent man. We saw that on that tape. That's why the fact that it is on tape.

00:38:13.680 And the jury has seen the level of depravity that this man has when it comes to treating a fellow human being, another one, a woman who's half his size and half his weight and totally powerless to stop him is so important. 0.91

00:38:26.520 We don't have to wonder. He did it. We saw it. He, he started beating her shortly after they got together in 2007. That's what the proof has been. And all the way through this, the videotape that we watched is 2016. That's almost 10 years later.

00:38:44.960 Who, who, who that's empowered, who that has any sort of equality, nevermind equal strength in the relationship stays for nine years of beatings. I don't think they actually broke up until 2018.

00:38:58.220 I mean, if you even just think about the, the humiliation that's involved and how, like how regularly Sean Combs had been beating Cassie in front of other people that he thought nothing of beating her in a public space.

00:39:13.060 Those elevators could have opened at any time when that security guard shows up on that new footage that we've just seen. And I was listening to you talk about, cause I didn't realize this and it was so enlightening, you know, that's enough.

00:39:25.100 So I'm like, okay, so a third party saw this and what happened, what happened? And I believe it was the same security guy who was told we don't do anything about this. And he took video on his own phone of the video because he kind of knew it would disappear.

00:39:42.100 He said he was going to show it to his wife that he was going home on a Friday and, uh, he wanted to show it to his wife. And it was a good thing because by Monday when he got back to work, it was gone. The original was gone.

00:39:54.020 And thank God he did tape that, you know, I mean, we never found out who was the source of the CNN leak. That's how we came to know that tape. CNN got their hands on it and aired it. And it was a game changer in the narrative around Diddy. Um, but one presumes he got it from this guy. I mean, I don't know, but where else did it come from? Didn't come from Diddy. We know that.

00:40:14.720 But thank God he got it because we don't, we don't have to wonder what kind of a man he is now. We don't have to wonder whether this is an Amber Heard, Johnny Depp situation. We know, we know what kind of a man he is. And the evidence is overwhelming.

00:40:27.420 And by the way, a source close to the case told me that it's not going to come down to Cassie because there's so much corroborating evidence that he was a serial abuser, bully. 0.59

00:40:40.060 Kingpin of what looked like a crime ring all around his desire to do drugs, to use illegal prostitutes, to run these freak offs and to bully. 0.70

00:40:53.740 And another word is sex traffic, his so-called love into being the star of his ill conceived sex romps, you know, by threatening her, by threatening her mom, by extorting her, by extorting her mom, by blowing up the cars of anybody she dared try to get away from him with.

00:41:13.860 And by the way, to prove Rico, back to the discussion of the elements and the crimes, so we discussed coercion, like sex trafficking by coercion, but the big, big claim against him, count number one, is Rico, racketeering.

00:41:27.680 And for that, you have to show two underlying predicate acts, they're called. It's two underlying crimes that your so-called mob boss or crime boss has committed or ordered committed in the context of this big crime organization you're accusing him of running.

00:41:41.480 And typically it's used against crime bosses, but it's been used now in these more lurid sex cases too, like R. Kelly.

00:41:48.720 And there are many crimes you can show, but bribery, like offering that security guard $100,000 to kill that tape.

00:41:56.900 They've got testimony to prove bribery. Kidnapping, we watch that on tape.

00:42:02.160 Assault, we watch that on tape.

00:42:05.580 Obstruction of justice, there's been evidence of that too.

00:42:08.520 I mean, just if he paid to have that tape destroyed, you know, another hotel worker.

00:42:15.240 Arson, that was one of the ones alleged by the prosecution.

00:42:18.200 And yesterday his defenders were pointing out that Kid Cudi didn't say, did he admit it?

00:42:23.400 Well, right.

00:42:24.440 But there's something called circumstantial proof in a case.

00:42:28.600 And we've now had Cassie testify that did he did it?

00:42:34.020 And did he do it? Did he did it?

00:42:36.000 And, uh, and, uh, and we've then had Kid Cudi take the stand to say he threatened me.

00:42:42.480 Right.

00:42:43.280 I went home immediately.

00:42:44.960 He had, I believe he had messed with my home and this is why I believe it. 0.78

00:42:48.280 And I made a police report at the time.

00:42:49.880 He threatened me again.

00:42:51.700 Then my car was destroyed.

00:42:53.540 I had a meeting with him.

00:42:54.900 He said, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:42:57.080 But then three years later, he apologized to me for some unspecified sin.

00:43:03.080 I mean, that's enough for a jury to say, I believe he did it.

00:43:05.700 I'm convinced.

00:43:06.580 You know, it'd be enough for me is the dog. 1.00

00:43:09.020 You fucked with somebody's dog. 1.00

00:43:10.720 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:11.260 You terrified a dog, you know, like you're garbage. 0.99

00:43:14.600 And the other thing about the Cassie stuff is, um, and you know, that the idea that it's, 0.99

00:43:20.640 it's, it's implausible at best to believe that there aren't other female victims out there.

00:43:25.180 You know, there's always been, so I'll be sure who is sort of a rapper who is involved in this

00:43:31.620 because he was involved with Kim Porter.

00:43:33.920 Diddy's ex who had several children with him has a book coming out in September.

00:43:38.580 And there's always been speculation that Kim Porter's premature death at like 35 or 45 from

00:43:46.660 pneumonia was extremely suspicious.

00:43:48.920 Like a lot of eyebrows in the hip hop community have been raised.

00:43:52.360 I am extremely suspicious of it.

00:43:53.980 I don't, I don't understand it.

00:43:55.960 She's very young.

00:43:57.360 It just so happens that the woman who is the mother to his children, um, winds up dead at a

00:44:02.920 very young age of a, of an illness that doesn't normally kill 35 or 36 year olds.

00:44:07.380 I'd like to know more.

00:44:08.580 I would too.

00:44:09.940 And, you know, there's the whole Tupac and Biggie smalls, you know, those, I don't know

00:44:16.040 what if I'm not saying he necessarily committed those, but there's been a lot of speculation

00:44:19.740 about, about what role, if any, he had in those two.

00:44:22.380 Absolutely.

00:44:23.200 It's no, it's no accident that after Biggie's death and Diddy back then was going by Puffy

00:44:30.700 and he was always sort of the sidekick, the producer trying to get in the frame as the star.

00:44:37.140 Once Biggie died, who becomes the torch bearer?

00:44:40.780 It's Diddy who becomes the new hip hop star.

00:44:43.400 It's Diddy who begins like cannibalizing what little is left of the existing Biggie smalls

00:44:49.020 recordings.

00:44:49.540 It's Diddy.

00:44:50.380 And he made his bones on the back of a far more talented rapper.

00:44:54.680 He just did.

00:44:55.980 And I believe, I believe Biggie smalls, his mother died within the past year or two, but

00:45:01.140 I think she always had questions about that.

00:45:02.780 The level of wealth with these music moguls dwarfs almost everything.

00:45:11.220 I mean, you think you're rich, like you think Julia Roberts is rich in her 20, 25 million

00:45:15.260 dollars of film.

00:45:15.880 She doesn't hold a candle to the ditties of the world. 0.99

00:45:18.980 Like you want to make serious FU money.

00:45:22.320 You either run a hedge fund or you become a music mogul.

00:45:25.940 You're talking like hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars,

00:45:31.060 especially if you run the label, if you're not just the talent.

00:45:34.300 Right.

00:45:34.460 Like it's those people who sign other people that make all the money.

00:45:38.120 In fact, there was testimony from one of the gals who was part of this music group,

00:45:42.200 Danity Kane.

00:45:43.060 Yes.

00:45:43.600 She took the stand and talked about the same thing.

00:45:46.680 You know, how, forgive me because I don't want to screw it up, but I think she was one

00:45:50.880 of the ones who testified how he was abusive and she, she witnessed it.

00:45:55.160 There've been so many that I'm starting to lose track.

00:45:57.840 I mean, there've been multiple women now talking about having witnesses abused or experienced

00:46:01.180 it firsthand.

00:46:03.240 But she also talked about how they didn't make any money.

00:46:05.560 Like he makes the money.

00:46:07.080 And this is a pattern in music, by the way, we'll wait to see whether that has any bearing

00:46:11.860 on what Justin Bieber's going through because he's had that manager, Scooter Braun, that had

00:46:16.940 that Taylor Swift had that she had the big dispute with.

00:46:19.160 That's kind of an interesting question, but it's a pattern.

00:46:22.620 It's a very exploitative industry, especially amongst those who own the record labels or

00:46:27.460 who are the producers.

00:46:28.820 And I just think like the mega F you money and the lifestyle and the trappings and the private

00:46:35.660 jet and the huge estates and flying off to Jamaica or whatever, you know, tropical island

00:46:40.680 he kept taking everybody to, not to mention Epstein, similar pattern, right?

00:46:44.820 People get intoxicated just at the whiff of it, Maureen, just at the whiff of it.

00:46:51.820 And it explains in some, in some, to some extent, their willingness to look the other

00:46:57.040 way that plus he was a threatening guy.

00:46:59.200 You know, the last time we were talking about this and you, you, you made a really great point

00:47:04.720 that the kind of fame, first of all, the music industry isn't like, like, like the film

00:47:09.320 industry, it can be incredibly predatory because you're dealing with people, you know, the,

00:47:14.560 the biggest sample size of the, of the wannabes are the people who would give an organ for

00:47:19.780 it.

00:47:20.000 Okay.

00:47:20.380 They want it no matter the cost they, you know, and, um, but you said something about

00:47:25.840 the kind of charisma and star power that is unique to a famous musician, a live performer,

00:47:33.740 and they're becoming more and more rare just because of the way the music industry is sort

00:47:37.340 of, you know, out of tune.

00:47:39.060 Yeah.

00:47:39.340 Yeah.

00:47:39.640 And like the way they come up now, like they don't come up the way they used to.

00:47:42.300 And so the, the huge, huge stars, like a Diddy, you know, who, who will now be in

00:47:46.900 ruination for the rest of his life.

00:47:48.360 But, you know, I remember being like, back when I worked at MTV as like a baby being at

00:47:53.160 like this after party at like a very small New York city, downtown club and there, and

00:47:57.900 the room in the back that was like the quote VIP, very, very small.

00:48:01.080 And he walked in and when I tell you the gravitational pull in that room shifted, I mean, you could

00:48:06.420 feel it before you even saw who came in.

00:48:08.800 There is something about them that is just, I don't know if it's because they perform live

00:48:14.520 and they develop in a connection with like an organism of a hundred thousand people in

00:48:19.880 a state.

00:48:20.260 That is a unique gift.

00:48:21.800 Or Lady Gaga just had, was it 2 million people in London?

00:48:26.300 It was, it was one or 2 million people at a free concert.

00:48:29.580 I'm like, that's larger than life.

00:48:32.480 100%.

00:48:32.960 And to make every person in that arena feel a connection with you, that, that is, that,

00:48:39.140 that's power.

00:48:40.140 That's power.

00:48:41.420 And, um, you can see when, in thinking about how depraved Diddy became, you know, I, I,

00:48:48.220 this was always my question with Harvey in the beginning.

00:48:50.160 And I would ask every guy I knew, like he could have anybody he wants for the most part,

00:48:54.240 you know, favor, trade, whatever, why rape, why violence?

00:48:58.260 Yeah.

00:48:58.540 And they would say your, your baseline level of address, like it, you start topping out

00:49:03.080 and you need more, you need more and more depravity to get a dopamine hit.

00:49:06.940 He needed to feel dirty.

00:49:08.180 That's what got him off.

00:49:09.160 Yeah.

00:49:09.300 But I, I would tell you like in a weird way, I, I understand the dynamic just because,

00:49:14.160 you know, I've told the story about Roger Ailes and yours truly before, but it's very

00:49:19.700 different, but in some ways similar.

00:49:21.740 And just in that you have this hugely powerful boss, you know, hugely powerful person overseeing

00:49:27.640 your career who is clearly trying to make, you know, sex with you, the stakes for your

00:49:34.400 advancement.

00:49:34.900 And unlike these women, you know, a lot of them, I had a very strong family background. 0.99

00:49:41.260 I had an intact family.

00:49:42.900 I lost my dad at a young age, but his imprint was already very secure on me.

00:49:46.500 And my id was very strong and I couldn't be manipulated like that.

00:49:49.780 Like I knew very clearly I was never going to do that, but the music industry preys on

00:49:56.120 people who are vulnerable.

00:49:57.840 I think generally people who are determined to become stars in music or acting are probably

00:50:01.700 very damaged as a rule.

00:50:03.300 Yeah.

00:50:03.400 And they're working something out.

00:50:05.460 Yeah.

00:50:05.860 One of the reasons why they think they're going to get fulfilled by becoming a star and doing

00:50:09.440 this thing.

00:50:10.160 A lot of very talented people choose not to go into those industries because they're too,

00:50:13.360 they're too healthy.

00:50:14.320 Yeah.

00:50:15.000 And so they're ripe, they're ripe for the advantage taking.

00:50:18.160 And that's why it's, it's one of the interesting things about the fact that the music industry

00:50:21.540 never had its moment in the me too movement.

00:50:23.560 It really never came under the microscope, the way Hollywood did, the way news did, you

00:50:29.600 know, no one talked about like what happened backstage at Rolling Stones concerts or, you

00:50:36.480 know, at a, at a, at a Diddy concert or at a Kanye concert.

00:50:41.200 All right.

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00:52:04.760 Maureen has decided with her listeners and viewers to name her followers, the troublemakers.

00:52:10.780 I heard that and I approve.

00:52:12.720 Well, I'm glad that you do.

00:52:14.080 They all also helped come up with the name.

00:52:17.000 There was a lot of discussion, very lively and it was really fun.

00:52:20.440 And, um, yeah, they all like it.

00:52:22.680 And, you know, it's like, this show is so much fun on so many levels and it's so much

00:52:28.400 fun to do it.

00:52:29.100 And it's the same thing when I'm with you.

00:52:30.680 Like every time I come on your show, you know, we finished a conversation and I turned,

00:52:34.920 I'm like, that was an hour.

00:52:36.100 It feels like 15 minutes.

00:52:37.380 And it feels the same way doing the nerve.

00:52:39.220 It feels like 15 minutes.

00:52:40.360 And if I just want 15 more and 15, you know,

00:52:42.420 I've gotten so many nice notes from people saying, basically you've changed my listening

00:52:48.420 and viewing habits of news.

00:52:50.000 Now, like they're listening to you, they're listening to Halpern or they're listening to

00:52:53.620 Link.

00:52:54.080 And like, these are new voices who they only heard occasionally who they're now addicted

00:52:57.880 to.

00:52:58.660 Um, I don't think he'll mind me saying, but Glenn Greenwald sent me a note saying, thank

00:53:02.740 you for introducing me to this wonderful creature about you.

00:53:05.700 Oh my God.

00:53:06.360 He loves the show.

00:53:07.540 Oh, it just goes to show you, even people who are totally hard news, you know, hard

00:53:11.640 nosed news people can, you know, we all need an escape and some fun and like some salacious

00:53:17.420 gossip every once in a while.

00:53:19.900 100%.

00:53:20.300 And my favorite feedback, which like is like, so like truly humbling is like people who write

00:53:27.060 and say, you know, I moved to, I moved to a new town and I feel lonely.

00:53:30.640 I don't have friends, but like I tune into your channel and I look at you talking to me.

00:53:34.280 It's like a FaceTime with a friend, you know, it's like that kind of stuff.

00:53:37.540 Where it's like, it just feels very communal and like, we're all having, we're all seeing

00:53:42.220 the same thing.

00:53:42.940 And we're all like now just being able to say like, yeah, this is all nuts.

00:53:46.500 This is all nuts.

00:53:47.040 When I watch the show, um, I constantly find myself saying my daughter's favorite word,

00:53:52.040 which is real.

00:53:54.480 That's what the kids say now when you say something that's true, real, real.

00:53:58.880 And, uh, the, we pulled a clip from the nerve, the latest show.

00:54:02.300 And, um, I said it after this, here is Maureen talking about all the lies that, uh, Hollywood's 0.86

00:54:09.100 most beautiful women tell us about how it was just an effortless course to such beauty. 1.00

00:54:14.320 And, um, this one is about Jennifer Aniston.

00:54:16.960 Here it is.

00:54:18.560 Jennifer Aniston, one of the most beloved celebrities in the country.

00:54:23.180 She does it too.

00:54:24.080 She lies about it from an InStyle magazine article in 2024.

00:54:29.200 Oh, Jen, you know, she just like drinks a lot of water and she gets a lot of rest and 0.69

00:54:33.480 she eats really well.

00:54:34.780 She eats really clean.

00:54:36.200 Okay.

00:54:36.480 I'm going to tell you guys firsthand that I have, I know a doctor who recently worked

00:54:44.620 with somebody very close to Jennifer Aniston, that Jennifer Aniston recently had what is

00:54:49.220 called a bilateral, uh, what's it called?

00:54:53.520 It's a bilateral, like lower facelift.

00:54:55.580 So they go in with cameras on both sides, like under the cheekbones and they go in and

00:55:00.520 they just lift here.

00:55:01.620 They just lift here.

00:55:02.900 And what it winds up doing is it winds up stretching the mouth out like that and you can't

00:55:08.920 reverse it.

00:55:09.500 And, and it's, it's a bad procedure to have done no matter who you are, no matter what

00:55:15.660 your bone structure is, because it's not working with the rest of the face.

00:55:20.240 We have to try that.

00:55:21.520 Hold on a second.

00:55:23.060 Does it look good?

00:55:24.380 How do I look?

00:55:24.820 Yeah, it looks great.

00:55:25.520 Yeah.

00:55:25.920 It would never look better.

00:55:27.460 Also, people are getting their top lip flipped up.

00:55:29.820 They're getting their lip flipped up.

00:55:31.380 It's like they're the attempt to do the Kylie Kardashian big lip, but without huge injections

00:55:37.040 and it looks terrible.

00:55:38.400 Don't mess with your lips.

00:55:40.260 No, especially like the space between your nose and your-

00:55:42.940 Kylie Jenner.

00:55:43.620 Kylie Jenner.

00:55:44.240 Lauren Sanchez.

00:55:45.500 Oh.

00:55:46.060 Lauren Sanchez.

00:55:47.260 I don't know.

00:55:47.920 She needs to step away. 1.00

00:55:49.340 Step away from the needles.

00:55:51.100 There was a picture of her in Paris that was published recently that was horrifying because

00:55:55.700 it gets to the point where they do so much pulling and stretching and filler and Botox.

00:56:00.140 Like you, you, you, I feel like they lose any sort of tissue and you just see skin

00:56:04.520 on bone.

00:56:05.000 Well, and then you know what you get, not to be cruel, but like you get some weird bumpiness.

00:56:09.260 Have you seen it?

00:56:10.060 Yes.

00:56:10.120 Like there's some weird bumpiness that it's almost like the tell.

00:56:13.600 I think that they've had a facelift or I don't know, is that filler left?

00:56:16.300 I don't know what that is.

00:56:17.520 I don't know what that is, but my doctor friend who can diagnose this stuff a mile away is always

00:56:22.980 sort of like that.

00:56:23.660 So that thing that Jen Aniston had, she said, allegedly, allegedly had, uh, is not reversible.

00:56:30.080 There's no doctor you can go to now.

00:56:32.280 Allegedly.

00:56:33.000 Remember when Demi Moore did that?

00:56:35.200 It was horrifying.

00:56:36.200 Horrifying.

00:56:36.620 And her face was like, it was like the Balenciaga or something like that.

00:56:39.720 And she looked like an alien, like her cheek. 0.59

00:56:41.420 So my doctor friend told me, I thought that was misdone filler.

00:56:44.560 It was a botched facelift.

00:56:46.660 And she said, everybody in their community knows the doctor in New York city, allegedly

00:56:50.940 who did that to her and knows the doctor in New York city, allegedly who fixed it.

00:56:56.400 I mean, you'd have to, I can't believe she went out in about in the world with that terrible 0.98

00:57:00.620 facelift.

00:57:01.140 I mean, it looked awful.

00:57:02.780 I don't know.

00:57:03.520 I think Demi Moore is probably like kind of addicted to all the plastic surgery because 1.00

00:57:08.380 there've been so many reports about like doing the arms and doing the legs and doing like

00:57:12.620 the crotch. 0.61

00:57:13.320 And like, you can get all the, I mean, not crotch specifically, but you remember when 0.85

00:57:16.440 she came out, was it for GI Jane or whatever, but she kind of had a resurgence after a low

00:57:21.640 period in her career.

00:57:22.560 And she looked, you know, 15 years younger and there were all these reports, which she

00:57:26.980 denied.

00:57:27.760 They never confirmed them that she'd had everything operated on, like hikes in the arms and hikes

00:57:31.580 in the legs and hikes.

00:57:32.440 And I don't know.

00:57:32.780 A friend of mine had the leg lifted like the leg so that the knees don't look old.

00:57:38.420 And, um, she said, don't get that because she said, she laughingly said, I've got such

00:57:45.020 bad scars now on like my bikini line that I can never, ever leave my husband.

00:57:49.800 Oh my God.

00:57:51.100 Or like wear a bathing suit that doesn't have like a matronly skirt. 1.00

00:57:56.000 Right.

00:57:56.200 Or like the boy shorts now, uh, only, I guess.

00:57:59.920 Oh my God.

00:58:00.820 She was, she's very open about what she's had done.

00:58:02.980 And she had me in hysterics talking about this.

00:58:04.980 Oh my God.

00:58:05.740 But anyway, the, this nonsense of it's just my water that, that is a bridge to bar.

00:58:10.960 I love it.

00:58:11.560 And in that segment, I closed with my favorite example of recent years, which was Giselle

00:58:15.640 Burke, Giselle Burke, Giselle Burke in a burka outside her, a burka, a head to toe burka

00:58:23.480 outside her plastic surgeon's office in Paris.

00:58:26.600 Yes.

00:58:26.980 Okay.

00:58:27.320 And then five years later, she, you know, she, she issues all these like cookbooks and

00:58:32.000 like, you know, I'm, I'm so pure and everything's pure and I ride horses and it's just the sun

00:58:36.400 and my athleticism. 0.99

00:58:37.300 And it's not, it's not, it's such a line of bullshit. 1.00

00:58:40.520 They sell to women and I hate it. 1.00

00:58:42.020 It makes, it's designed to make us all feel terrible about ourselves.

00:58:44.660 That's right.

00:58:45.040 And their own, they won't own their own insecurities and confess it.

00:58:49.040 Right.

00:58:49.160 They just, just born that way.

00:58:50.400 Born that way.

00:58:51.120 So on the knees, you know, as you get older, of course, your skin does, does start to drape

00:58:55.360 and the knees are a tell.

00:58:56.680 And I recently saw a picture of Cindy Crawford and one of Melania Trump, where they both

00:59:01.340 have the knee like starting to sag.

00:59:03.420 And I thought, thank God, you know, it makes you feel better.

00:59:06.380 I have it too.

00:59:07.340 I did.

00:59:08.180 I did like three years ago, have a laser tried out on my knee.

00:59:12.580 You can do that.

00:59:13.400 Yeah.

00:59:13.860 My derm was like, yeah, you know, we could try that.

00:59:15.680 And I'm like, okay, sure.

00:59:17.120 It hurts so badly.

00:59:18.480 She gave me nitrous oxide while she was, I had to go on laughing gas. 0.80

00:59:21.580 It hurt like a mofo.

00:59:23.440 It did make the knee look better.

00:59:25.840 I'm not going to lie.

00:59:26.740 But then it goes right back.

00:59:28.340 You know,

00:59:28.460 I can do amazing things with lasers these days.

00:59:30.420 Yeah.

00:59:30.580 I had a recent laser, I'm going to say maybe six months ago.

00:59:33.760 And I was like, I have a pretty high pain tolerance.

00:59:37.500 And this thing, I, this was, this was killing me.

00:59:39.640 It was killing.

00:59:40.060 I was like, they were like, well, next time we could give you Valium.

00:59:42.260 I was like, you should have started with that.

00:59:43.440 Yeah.

00:59:43.740 Right.

00:59:44.320 Why did you hold out?

00:59:45.920 See, that's what I love.

00:59:46.860 I love the lasers and I recommend the lasers and I strongly oppose filler.

00:59:50.660 You just look weird.

00:59:51.860 It just makes you look weird.

00:59:52.760 It doesn't make you look younger.

00:59:54.200 By the way, there's no woman who's stuffed up with filler who you're like, oh, she's 30 when she's 1.00

00:59:58.560 50.

00:59:59.180 Nobody thinks that.

01:00:00.360 No.

01:00:00.560 And I think you have to go to a doctor.

01:00:02.120 I love my germ because she's like, if you want something and I think it's too much or wrong for 0.92

01:00:07.000 you, I'm going to say no.

01:00:08.200 And I'm going to say no again.

01:00:09.360 And you can go to somebody else, you know, because I do think you can, once you start,

01:00:13.260 it's like when you're renovating a house, right?

01:00:15.140 Once you start seeing what's wrong and got corrected, all you can see sometimes are imperfections,

01:00:19.900 you know, and your skin is like, so like, I'm like kind of in awe of like how you're,

01:00:24.980 you know, and I love that you're open about lasers and extensions and like all

01:00:28.540 this stuff.

01:00:28.980 Like, yes, I will say well done filler.

01:00:31.440 Like I have gotten filler under my eyes for maybe the past five years and it can, if it's

01:00:36.940 done well, it can really correct.

01:00:38.980 Like if you're beginning to feel like you're losing a hollowed out a little bit, but the

01:00:43.300 side effect of it is that you don't really need concealer anymore.

01:00:46.560 Oh, it gets rid of the dark.

01:00:49.580 Wait, does it hurt to get needles and not really?

01:00:52.640 No, you just get numbed up.

01:00:53.780 You just get numbed up and you wait 30 minutes.

01:00:55.840 It's such a sensitive area.

01:00:57.780 She's a genius.

01:00:59.020 Oh, what can I say?

01:01:00.000 Dr. Jessica Weiser in Soho.

01:01:01.560 Okay.

01:01:02.000 Very nice.

01:01:02.680 She got, she got the shout out.

01:01:04.480 Well, I do love the lasers and I've told the audience, I try to get two Fraxels a year,

01:01:08.100 once every six months.

01:01:09.300 And honestly, I just had one.

01:01:10.820 I just had one last week.

01:01:11.520 You couldn't even tell I was on the air.

01:01:12.680 You couldn't tell that I was post-Fraxel.

01:01:14.660 You don't really have much downtime.

01:01:16.120 You don't.

01:01:16.440 If you, if you don't go like too crazy with it.

01:01:18.460 And then in between the Fraxels, I'll have this little, it's called a Pico and a clear

01:01:22.640 and brilliant from time to time.

01:01:24.180 It's a Pico. 0.99

01:01:24.640 It's nothing.

01:01:25.400 I mean, it's a nothing burger.

01:01:26.360 There's no downtime.

01:01:27.220 It doesn't hurt.

01:01:28.360 I don't even know really if it does anything to be honest, but I do think these are the

01:01:31.580 reasons that my skin stays looking good.

01:01:33.280 And that way more than like filling in lines gives you, I think a more youthful appearance.

01:01:38.400 Right.

01:01:38.900 And it's not invasive. 0.99

01:01:40.400 You know, I'm never going to get that crazy ass, you're bloody faced for 10 weeks or a one 1.00

01:01:45.580 month. 0.99

01:01:46.100 I can't remember, but I remember it was, um, Oh, the OT, the O2 anyway, CO2 laser where

01:01:53.600 the doctor, I had a new derm and she was like, have you ever had that?

01:01:56.640 And I'm like, no.

01:01:57.680 And she goes, is that something you'd be interested in?

01:01:59.340 And I was like, I don't know.

01:02:00.620 Should I be?

01:02:01.380 She goes, well, do you have young children?

01:02:03.600 I'm like, well, I have children.

01:02:05.440 Why?

01:02:05.720 She was like, you basically couldn't see them for like three weeks.

01:02:11.500 So I'm sure you got it.

01:02:12.660 I'll come back when I'm 70.

01:02:14.060 Yeah.

01:02:14.280 Yeah.

01:02:14.560 Did not get it.

01:02:15.580 So no, I only like the ones that there's really not a lot of downtime on and they work

01:02:19.000 great.

01:02:19.600 They do work great.

01:02:20.580 And I also love, I love like my aging goals are women who age gracefully. 0.92

01:02:26.580 Like, I don't know if you've watched Emily in Paris.

01:02:29.000 I don't know.

01:02:29.580 Okay.

01:02:29.700 There's this older French actress who's on that show. 0.99

01:02:32.480 She is so stylish and she is so cool.

01:02:34.980 And she's so obviously in her mid fifties, she has lines. 0.80

01:02:38.800 Her skin is, is kind of sagging, but she has so much confidence and so much style.

01:02:43.040 You're just like, I want to be her.

01:02:44.360 I want to be that person.

01:02:45.380 I don't want to be the person who looked like I came from a wind tunnel, you know, when

01:02:48.400 I'm like 60 years old.

01:02:49.460 Like, I don't want that.

01:02:50.560 No.

01:02:50.900 And like even Jane Fonda, it's like, I know, I know.

01:02:53.900 I don't want to cut into my face when I'm 80.

01:02:55.860 No.

01:02:56.180 I want to like, I'm watching this series, which I highly recommend, by the way, if you don't

01:03:00.560 have Brit box, um, you can get it on Amazon prime and, um, it's so fun.

01:03:05.400 It's got British crime series and Doug and I love that stuff.

01:03:07.660 Yeah.

01:03:07.820 So we just finished watching I like the pronoun, I comma Jack, right?

01:03:13.200 W R I G H T. 1.00

01:03:15.220 So good.

01:03:16.020 Six episodes.

01:03:17.220 I have to warn you, they do wind it up on episode six, but not fully.

01:03:21.740 So you don't have that.

01:03:22.720 Like everything is explained feeling, but didn't change my thorough enjoyment of every

01:03:28.180 episode.

01:03:28.740 Um, notwithstanding that fact.

01:03:30.600 And, um, in it, one of the stars is forgive me.

01:03:33.500 I should remember her name.

01:03:34.200 I think it's Gemma.

01:03:35.400 Is it Gemma Jones?

01:03:36.300 She starred in sense and sensibility as the mother of, um, uh, the two young women.

01:03:40.660 And she starred in Bridget Jones diary.

01:03:43.320 Okay.

01:03:43.780 Okay.

01:03:44.060 As a Bridget Jones mom, you'd know her in a heartbeat if you saw her and she's an older 0.95

01:03:49.120 woman now she's, you know, elderly. 0.78

01:03:51.260 She looks great.

01:03:52.440 She's beautiful.

01:03:53.580 She's old.

01:03:54.420 You're allowed to age in great Britain in a way you're not here.

01:03:57.460 Yes.

01:03:58.020 And this is how I want to look when I am in my eighties, like an, like a pretty 80 something

01:04:03.460 year old who is old, but like attractive.

01:04:07.440 There's an elegance in not doing that to yourself.

01:04:09.920 Yes.

01:04:10.260 It's a level.

01:04:11.200 It's, it's, it's a, it shows a level of self-confidence and it shows like we all want

01:04:15.840 to look, most of us really want to look our best, but like it shows, it also shows a sense

01:04:20.440 of humility.

01:04:20.920 You know, time comes for us all age comes for us all, you know, and you could be Jane

01:04:25.080 Fonda and you could go out in a wig allegedly and pull your face back, but you're still

01:04:29.860 80, 85, you know, look, we all know that.

01:04:32.760 We all know it.

01:04:33.820 Meanwhile, uh, Doug and I were laughing because he only goes to the derm for like skin cancer

01:04:39.660 removal stuff, you know, and he's so the opposite of me.

01:04:43.180 He went and had like whatever removed from his face and they put a bandaid on his temple

01:04:49.180 and he went and did his show dedicated with Doug Brunt with the side that had the bandaid

01:04:54.700 on facing camera.

01:04:56.040 I'm like, Doug, I would never, no, never.

01:04:59.700 Like he has no vanity.

01:05:01.500 He's like, oh, oh, well, it's very different from, from me.

01:05:05.380 Okay.

01:05:05.780 Let's keep going.

01:05:06.300 Cause there's so many good things in the news that I want to get to.

01:05:08.200 Uh, we mentioned Lauren Sanchez.

01:05:10.140 She posted, um, or no, she didn't post.

01:05:13.380 She was in the tabloids for this picture of Jeff Bezos smacking her thong wearing bottom 1.00

01:05:20.520 on their yachts.

01:05:22.280 This is, I submit to you a total setup with a paparazzi because there's another one of

01:05:27.120 her with her arms up stretching, showing off the backside with this thong up the rear. 1.00

01:05:33.700 She totally either knew they were there or set it up and she's prancing around Paris. 1.00

01:05:39.160 And here's some pictures of him smacking her bottom.

01:05:41.520 Okay. 0.93

01:05:41.900 You're young and virulent Jeff Bezos.

01:05:44.920 Look, look at this with her and the bottom, right?

01:05:47.200 That is totally posed. 0.96

01:05:48.380 Um, and then you've got these pictures of her ridiculous bachelorette party prancing 1.00

01:05:54.660 around Paris. 0.97

01:05:55.420 I've never seen Katy Perry look worse.

01:05:59.140 She goes out, Katy Perry, there's, she was caught by the tabloids walking out of her hotel

01:06:03.840 with like, there's no bra on Maureen.

01:06:06.540 She's wearing like, I don't know what this getup is. 0.66

01:06:10.040 It's like a leotard with pantyhose.

01:06:13.500 It's almost like Bianca Sensori-esque where there's very little clothing.

01:06:17.160 Like the time, as you said, comes for us all.

01:06:20.940 And when you're past a certain age, you need a bra. 0.74

01:06:23.940 Yeah.

01:06:24.320 Sorry, but you do.

01:06:25.500 Yes.

01:06:25.980 You know, especially if you've had children, which I believe she has, because things are

01:06:29.960 supposed to be pointing straight out, start to be pointing down.

01:06:33.360 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:06:35.040 And most of us will wear appropriate clothing so that we're not drawing too much attention

01:06:38.360 to these issues.

01:06:39.500 But Katy Perry seems to be going through a midlife crisis. 0.89

01:06:42.160 Oh, 100%.

01:06:43.160 These, I, this is where, this is one of the few times I feel ashamed to be an American.

01:06:48.700 These, these are Americans, Bulgarians parading through Paris. 0.89

01:06:53.260 I read they went to a restaurant called Lafayette and they ordered a bunch of like gross American 1.00

01:06:57.320 food that was probably not on the menu.

01:06:58.920 Just to call back to the Diddy thing, one of the most disgusting details to come out

01:07:02.880 this week, he prefers his burgers with applesauce on them.

01:07:06.200 Ew.

01:07:06.600 I know.

01:07:07.280 Ew.

01:07:07.460 I know. 0.55

01:07:07.780 It's disgusting.

01:07:08.160 Who came up with that?

01:07:08.880 That is not a thing.

01:07:10.180 For him it is. 0.97

01:07:11.380 It's disgusting. 0.87

01:07:12.340 But anyway, these two, that, that image of Bezos slapping, like that reminded me of the

01:07:17.320 Jenny from the Block video.

01:07:18.520 Remember Ben Affleck on the boat slapping?

01:07:20.700 Oh my gosh.

01:07:21.300 Like, and I think they're trying to reenact this, this thing.

01:07:24.740 But my main theory about Lauren Sanchez is I think she is paying a very high price to

01:07:29.340 become the miss next Mrs. Jeff Bezos.

01:07:31.800 I do not think this is fun at all.

01:07:33.780 I think she has to keep her body in a certain condition. 1.00

01:07:36.980 I think she has to have a certain number of surgeries. 1.00

01:07:39.760 I think she has to look a certain way.

01:07:41.680 My opinion, just my opinion, it is Jeff Bezos is revenge of the nerds, small dude syndrome. 1.00

01:07:47.780 Like I have a pneumatic sex doll. 1.00

01:07:49.740 Totally. 0.99

01:07:50.340 And I parade her around and she does what I want. 1.00

01:07:52.980 And that visual right there, I'm smacking her bottom. 1.00

01:07:56.820 Isn't it a little. 0.93

01:07:58.560 Kanye, Bianca-esque.

01:08:00.240 I think abs, I agree with you 100%.

01:08:02.540 Kind of a couple of parallels there.

01:08:03.980 So speaking of our fellow astronauts, um, Gail King is suffering some blowback from her 1.00

01:08:10.260 trip to space and not just in the form of blonde origin, which you must check out on 0.84

01:08:15.220 our YouTube channel.

01:08:15.820 If you have not yet seen it, it is our full parody of the blue origin debacle. 0.98

01:08:19.420 And the moronic narcissistic women who were on that ride. 1.00

01:08:24.620 Um, but in the news today is, um, let me get, I want to, cause I want to quote from 0.98

01:08:30.460 it is the fact that there's blowback against Gail and others at CBS for that absurdity.

01:08:39.320 Hold on a second.

01:08:39.980 Was that in the AM update?

01:08:40.900 You guys like our real AM update.

01:08:42.480 Oh, wait, this is the, I'm, I've got the wrong paper in front of me.

01:08:45.040 Sorry.

01:08:45.440 I have so many papers when I come to air that I sometimes screw it up.

01:08:48.960 Um, I'm going to find it.

01:08:51.200 Oh, that's so many papers.

01:08:52.940 And so little time here.

01:08:55.160 I think I found it.

01:08:57.060 Okay.

01:08:57.800 Yeah.

01:08:58.540 Yeah.

01:08:58.820 The daily mail.

01:09:00.260 Okay.

01:09:00.960 First of all, CBS news is imploding.

01:09:02.680 Yes.

01:09:03.180 They, uh, they fired Wendy McMahon, the president, uh, the executive producer of CBS of 60 minutes

01:09:10.280 quit.

01:09:10.580 Um, now there are rumors that both Gail and Scott Pelley could be on the way out.

01:09:17.120 There was a report the other day that Gail was told they are not paying her, her $10 million

01:09:21.420 salary anymore.

01:09:22.500 She has no viewers there.

01:09:25.660 It's not worth it.

01:09:26.960 And, uh, you know, she's not going to work for free Maureen, like for 7 million. 0.91

01:09:31.200 These are the reports, but now there's this via the daily mail inside the vicious CBS news

01:09:36.980 bloodbath where staff are fighting, crying and resent Gail King.

01:09:40.780 Uh, tensions are running particularly high about reports that CBS's parent company Paramount

01:09:45.420 is preparing to slash 500 million in costs in preparation for the lucrative merger with

01:09:50.720 Skydance media.

01:09:51.380 Against the backdrop of a ratings free fall.

01:09:54.480 And there might be more exits to come.

01:09:56.240 Multiple sources told the daily mail that 60 minutes host Scott Pelley could be on the

01:10:00.920 way out.

01:10:02.120 It's marquee name after marquee name.

01:10:04.260 I mean, let's not kid ourselves.

01:10:05.460 There are no marquee names there.

01:10:07.200 People don't want to say it out loud in the office, but the entire space debacle really

01:10:12.580 hurt us. 0.56

01:10:13.760 Oh, did it?

01:10:15.160 Said a 60 minutes staffer.

01:10:16.900 Um, Gail being part of that, not a good look for our brand.

01:10:23.120 You know what?

01:10:24.200 You should have listened to us because we could have told you that immediately.

01:10:26.760 I think a lot of people resent Gail for it.

01:10:30.200 I know I do, but the most, that's them, not me.

01:10:33.280 Um, but the most palpable impact appears to have been felt at 60 minutes where staff have

01:10:37.320 compared the atmosphere to a sinking ship.

01:10:39.440 The tension spilling out into the open with blazing rows in the office, rows in the office

01:10:44.540 over story coverage and petty squabbles concerning seating plans.

01:10:48.960 Source is still the daily mail fights and loud ones.

01:10:52.600 Said the insider.

01:10:53.560 You can hear them in the halls.

01:10:55.160 People are arguing over everything and anything from big things like how to report stories to

01:10:59.380 small things like who is sitting where in the conference room.

01:11:02.480 So it's not going well.

01:11:03.980 It's not going well.

01:11:05.160 I have a two Scott Pelley observations and then I'd like to say something about Gail.

01:11:10.740 Um, Scott Pelley once, uh, assailed a page six reporter who dared to talk to him.

01:11:16.580 Back when I was supposed on the red carpet, he was on a red carpet.

01:11:20.100 He was doing interviews.

01:11:20.920 I believe he had just been canned as anchor nightly news anchor and they had the temerity

01:11:25.500 to ask him about that.

01:11:26.540 And he's, he's spat.

01:11:27.960 He fairly spat at them.

01:11:29.400 Like, uh, you wouldn't last two minutes inside the halls of CBS news.

01:11:34.020 And I'm like, Scott Pelley wouldn't last two minutes inside the New York post newsroom.

01:11:37.560 Oh, hell no.

01:11:38.600 I promise you.

01:11:38.900 Okay.

01:11:39.440 And then my other thing about Scott Pelley is, you know, he's on 60 minutes now and he

01:11:42.820 taught, he's always talking like with lockjaw.

01:11:44.680 Yes.

01:11:44.920 And then he does have a lockjaw.

01:11:46.240 He does this and then he takes his glasses and he'll put them on like this.

01:11:48.900 And then after he asked the question, he takes them off.

01:11:51.400 He writes it like this.

01:11:52.480 It's like William Hurt in broadcast news.

01:11:54.200 Thank you.

01:11:54.760 I, it's very cathartic to get that out.

01:11:56.980 Very cathartic.

01:11:57.840 And then, um, so Gail, I feel like Gail is, is to CBS news, what Don Lemon was to CNN.

01:12:03.460 And I knew Don Lemon was over before he began tanking.

01:12:06.580 Do you remember that image of him on a red carpet during fashion week?

01:12:10.580 It was right around COVID.

01:12:12.300 I'm sure I blocked it out.

01:12:14.100 He's on a red carpet.

01:12:15.100 There are photographers like in a semicircle.

01:12:17.560 He's standing there in like a $5,000 suit with like a $10,000 coat caped over him.

01:12:22.560 And he's showing his hands like this and all the rings on his fingers.

01:12:26.080 Ew.

01:12:26.240 And I was like, this guy thinks he's a major star and CNN is the backdrop rather than you're the journalist and that is your outlet.

01:12:34.160 And Gail's right now in the same level of delusion.

01:12:37.360 She's the star and CBS is just lucky to have her.

01:12:39.980 My opinion.

01:12:40.460 Can I tell you something else that happened at the time?

01:12:42.260 100.

01:12:42.660 This is an amazing moment.

01:12:44.000 So, you know, you have to wait in the line to get your red shot, your red carpet shot.

01:12:49.920 And I was going to get that red carpet shot because that was the reason to be there. 0.96

01:12:53.520 You know, like I just felt like it was an F you bitches moment to like my old pals at NBC. 0.97

01:12:57.740 It was just kind of nice from that standpoint. 0.94

01:12:59.520 So I was waiting and, um, we were in front of, we were right behind.

01:13:05.360 I forget, you know, I don't, I know nothing about the music industry, which I'm learning as I try to talk about the DJ, the Diddy trial, but I know very little.

01:13:12.420 Um, but a big star, big music star and his wife.

01:13:16.460 And, um, we'd all been waiting our turn, but this guy, forgive me for not knowing his name, but he was like the marquee talent for the night and everybody knew who he was, but not me.

01:13:25.300 No, it wasn't Miles Smith.

01:13:26.360 It was another guy.

01:13:27.380 Um, keep going.

01:13:28.800 No, it wasn't Ed Sheeran.

01:13:29.980 No, it wasn't Ed Sheeran.

01:13:31.100 It was a different guy.

01:13:31.660 Anyway, whatever.

01:13:32.460 Okay.

01:13:32.940 Um, they stopped.

01:13:36.420 So we're all filing in from the, the left of the red carpet and waiting in line.

01:13:41.980 I was in behind Priyanka Chopra.

01:13:44.540 Okay.

01:13:44.880 Right.

01:13:45.100 So she's pretty well known.

01:13:46.820 Um, everyone's waiting as we inch up and it's almost like our time to go out there.

01:13:52.300 They stop our procession from, from the left side.

01:13:56.360 Because clearly some big star is coming over from the right.

01:13:59.300 Uh-huh.

01:13:59.820 I'm like, what is it?

01:14:00.540 Tom Cruise?

01:14:01.300 Who is it?

01:14:01.820 It was going to be like somebody we'd all be like, oh, of course.

01:14:04.440 Yeah.

01:14:04.620 Okay.

01:14:04.840 Fine.

01:14:05.180 You know, security demands that they get in and get out. 0.99

01:14:08.360 It was fucking David Muir. 1.00

01:14:10.880 Get the fuck out. 1.00

01:14:13.440 David Muir, who, by the way, you know, like Mariah Carey is only ever shot from one side. 1.00

01:14:18.940 Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

01:14:20.760 Yeah.

01:14:21.120 He's only.

01:14:21.900 Oh, and he's, and he's that way.

01:14:23.720 Oh, he's that way.

01:14:24.500 No, he's, this is, he sits at the anchor desk like this.

01:14:27.180 Oh.

01:14:27.660 And he never moves.

01:14:28.460 He's like a statue.

01:14:29.100 So, and then what's great is when he has to parachute into a war zone or a natural disaster, 0.98

01:14:34.280 you better fucking get him from the side only. 0.98

01:14:36.120 Doesn't matter how many dead bodies are in the background. 1.00

01:14:38.280 No.

01:14:38.700 This side.

01:14:39.160 And bring my waist cinchers.

01:14:40.500 Oh, right.

01:14:41.240 Don't forget my waist cinchers.

01:14:42.800 Don't forget that.

01:14:43.480 I couldn't believe, I'm like, David Muir, you've got to be kidding me.

01:14:48.300 That is such an insult to you, Megan.

01:14:49.660 And it's such an insult to you.

01:14:50.740 It is.

01:14:50.920 It is.

01:14:50.940 It was.

01:14:51.840 But it was an absurdity by him.

01:14:54.340 I mean, honestly, like he should have been embarrassed.

01:14:57.460 Everybody was expecting some truly A-list talent to come in there.

01:15:00.800 And we were all like, David Muir? 0.97

01:15:03.800 Everybody in line was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. 0.97

01:15:06.760 Just the fact that he would do it is kind of humiliating. 0.99

01:15:09.460 But he did it.

01:15:10.400 Okay.

01:15:10.640 So that was that.

01:15:11.720 Okay.

01:15:13.500 Oh, Scott Pelley.

01:15:14.580 We can't leave this subject without showing you Scott Pelley at Wake Forest.

01:15:18.300 I don't know why Wake Forest would invite Scott Pelley and sick him on their graduates

01:15:22.260 with, as you accurately point out, I've never heard it said right, like you did.

01:15:27.780 Lockjaw.

01:15:28.700 He does have the lockjaw.

01:15:30.800 That's not happening.

01:15:31.980 With the glasses.

01:15:33.020 So here he goes to speak to these poor graduates who are his captive audience.

01:15:36.800 And keep in mind when you hear this clip of the free speech crackdowns that we suffered

01:15:42.340 during COVID under Joe Biden, right?

01:15:46.120 When he took over and how we got censored, if we said, try ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

01:15:53.700 Right.

01:15:53.920 Or if you said COVID started in a lab and it wasn't natural origin.

01:15:58.480 If you said it's causing serious side effects like myocarditis, all of the crackdowns, right,

01:16:04.580 that we've had on free speech.

01:16:06.180 The disinformation dozen where they actively worked with social media to censor regular

01:16:10.340 Americans, where he sicked the FBI on parents at school board meetings, if they were saying

01:16:15.580 the wrong things.

01:16:16.640 And now, now is the time Scott Pelley would like to throw a word out there for free speech

01:16:23.320 and listen to him do it.

01:16:25.960 But in this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred rule of law is under attack.

01:16:34.640 Journalism is under attack.

01:16:38.500 Universities are under attack.

01:16:41.960 Freedom of speech is under attack.

01:16:46.240 And insidious fear is reaching through our schools, our businesses, our homes, and into

01:17:00.260 our private thoughts.

01:17:01.420 The fear to speak in America.

01:17:09.340 The Wake Forest class of 1861, they did not choose their time of calling.

01:17:15.320 The class of 1941 did not choose.

01:17:18.600 The class of 1968 did not choose.

01:17:22.040 History chose them.

01:17:27.540 And now history is calling you.

01:17:30.020 Oh, my God.

01:17:30.940 The class of 2025.

01:17:33.560 So that's the Civil War, World War II, and Civil Rights Movement.

01:17:38.000 That's the same moment we're in now, as free speech is under attack, and universities are

01:17:43.560 under attack, and somebody's private thoughts are filled with fear.

01:17:48.540 I believe he speaks of himself.

01:17:51.180 And that's his inspirational message to the class of 2025 at Wake Forest University.

01:17:55.420 He seems like a fun time.

01:17:56.900 Doesn't he?

01:17:57.520 Good job.

01:17:57.840 That's exactly what I want to hear as I'm going out into the world and about to embark

01:18:01.280 on my life.

01:18:01.960 And it should be the most optimistic, hopeful time.

01:18:03.900 And those are like, I'll say this.

01:18:05.360 Like, my commencement speaker, you may be surprised, was Cornel West.

01:18:08.900 And I freaking loved his speech.

01:18:10.540 I bet he was good.

01:18:11.100 He was so great.

01:18:12.200 And it was so joyful.

01:18:13.320 And he was like, you're going out into the world.

01:18:15.060 And it's like all yours.

01:18:16.140 And like, it was just amazing.

01:18:17.680 You know, it was so inspirational.

01:18:19.780 And he really captivated everybody.

01:18:21.880 And this is like, okay, there's no free speech.

01:18:24.000 You're talking to kids who are running college campuses as they see fit.

01:18:28.240 You want a tentafata?

01:18:29.620 Have it.

01:18:30.280 Like, what is he talking about?

01:18:31.840 Yeah.

01:18:32.180 Well, and it's just so ironic.

01:18:33.620 It's like universities are under attack as the federal government tries to enforce Title

01:18:39.640 6, which doesn't allow open displays of anti-Semitism on campus.

01:18:45.540 It's literally the law that they must step in if a college allows Jews, for example, to 0.96

01:18:51.800 be openly harassed like Columbia has, like Harvard has.

01:18:56.380 It's just that nobody else would enforce these laws prior to Trump.

01:19:00.620 Right.

01:19:00.920 And now he's upset.

01:19:02.240 Yes.

01:19:02.720 He doesn't like that.

01:19:04.040 But by the way, where was he when the federal government was interfering, like I say, with

01:19:09.260 parents trying to protect their children, when the federal government was interfering with

01:19:13.700 police departments across this country who had done nothing wrong, but were getting harassed

01:19:19.200 by President Obama and then President Biden setting up fake consent decrees to try to make

01:19:24.580 them answer to Joe Biden in their law enforcement or Barack Obama in their law enforcement, which

01:19:29.340 thank God Harmeet Dillon, now deputy at the DOJ, has just undone.

01:19:33.460 He didn't care.

01:19:34.260 He wanted them scrutinized.

01:19:35.500 He wanted government interference then when it ran right in line with his own

01:19:39.260 ideology.

01:19:40.200 For that matter, where was Scott Pelley and his ilk as all of this stuff we're learning

01:19:46.420 about now when the press was either complicit in or very happy to be told everything's fine

01:19:52.060 here vis-a-vis Joe Biden.

01:19:53.940 Right.

01:19:54.280 Nothing to see here.

01:19:55.320 Now we're learning in that Jake Tapper book, Hunter Biden was one of the people making crucial

01:20:01.220 decisions.

01:20:01.900 Right.

01:20:02.080 Like that was a punchline.

01:20:03.520 Oh, who do you think it is behind the scenes?

01:20:05.200 Like Hunter, that degenerate?

01:20:06.620 Yeah, it was.

01:20:07.260 It was Hunter and Jill.

01:20:08.880 And Jill, who's really emerging as one of the worst, most terrible first ladies in 1.00

01:20:13.500 U.S. history.

01:20:14.340 100%.

01:20:14.700 It was interesting, I have to say, to see Sally Quinn of the Washington Post and was

01:20:19.380 married to Ben Bradley, the famous, famous editor of the Washington Post for many years

01:20:22.860 and who he was much older than she was.

01:20:25.300 That's why she's still around and got dementia.

01:20:27.740 So she does know a thing or two about being married to an elderly, somewhat infirm man.

01:20:32.560 At least he was in his later years.

01:20:33.940 He was, you know, a giant of the press when he was younger.

01:20:36.720 And then she went on this podcast with Tara Palmieri and listened to what she said in Sot

01:20:42.740 8.

01:20:44.680 Well, honestly, I blame Jill Biden for this. 1.00

01:20:47.620 Jill Biden is his wife.

01:20:49.180 And if Jill Biden has stood up and has gone to him and said, Joe, you can't do it.

01:20:55.640 And if you do, you're on your own.

01:20:57.060 I'm out.

01:20:58.140 He wouldn't have run because he couldn't have done it without her support.

01:21:02.300 And, you know, she clearly was in favor of him running.

01:21:06.100 And I just think it was a terrible disservice to the country.

01:21:09.740 I felt sorry for Joe Biden because I didn't think she was protecting him.

01:21:14.580 She wasn't protecting him from himself.

01:21:16.780 And after that hideous debate, that after right after the debate, they're in the spin

01:21:22.380 room and she's got his hand up and they're victory, victory.

01:21:25.800 We won.

01:21:26.300 We won.

01:21:26.660 It was great.

01:21:27.260 Great.

01:21:27.540 And the next day he's off in North Carolina and making a victory speech.

01:21:31.040 I thought, what were they watching?

01:21:33.320 It was I thought it was just elder abuse.

01:21:37.200 Really?

01:21:37.760 What they were.

01:21:38.540 Wow.

01:21:39.060 Yeah.

01:21:39.740 I think everybody was horrified that he was put in a position where he was allowed to

01:21:46.520 run by the staff and by his wife.

01:21:49.740 Yeah, you got it.

01:21:50.620 You get the basic just.

01:21:51.960 But still, it was his.

01:21:53.320 So even she now, even the left is trying to is starting to come to terms with the fact

01:21:57.880 that this looked very much like elder abuse by Jill Biden.

01:22:01.900 Yes.

01:22:02.700 You know, it's so galling that.

01:22:05.460 OK, there's she and Joe went on The View like two weeks ago.

01:22:08.900 And they knew this book was coming out.

01:22:10.920 So, you know, Joe's trying to shore up his legacy is one of the greatest presidents ever

01:22:17.180 and losing his train of thought as he does.

01:22:20.000 So he's like, right.

01:22:22.160 And Jill's grabbing him going, well, let me just tell you that he was working 24 hours

01:22:27.540 a day and, you know, he's reading his briefing books and he's taking phone calls and I'm in

01:22:30.840 bed with my novel.

01:22:31.520 But there he is.

01:22:32.260 And he's just, you know, and it's all a lie.

01:22:33.980 We all know it's a lie, you know.

01:22:35.780 And then, of course, they make the announcement about the cancer diagnosis like two days before

01:22:39.740 the Tapper book is like officially published.

01:22:41.900 But most of the media has seen it and like is talking about it.

01:22:45.260 And it's so disgustingly cynical.

01:22:48.740 And then so The View after they after they allow this Pravda-esque display at their table

01:22:54.800 and they're happy to do it because they're all Team Joe.

01:22:57.760 Team Jill, Team Dr. Jill.

01:22:59.260 So Bob Iger reportedly and then the head of ABC News have a Come to Jesus meeting with

01:23:05.000 them, the host of The View, this brain trust.

01:23:08.140 And they say, listen, you got to back off this anti-Trump stuff.

01:23:10.680 Like it's boring.

01:23:12.160 You're dividing.

01:23:13.440 You're losing half of the country, more than half.

01:23:16.620 Knock it off.

01:23:17.780 And so Ana Navarro. 0.91

01:23:19.320 Yeah.

01:23:20.060 Who there's not a name she doesn't love to drop.

01:23:23.020 She and Sonny Hostin are always like elbowing each other.

01:23:24.980 Who's closer to, you know.

01:23:26.060 So unattractive.

01:23:26.840 She says, I won't do it.

01:23:27.680 I will not.

01:23:29.560 I don't care if you're Bob Iger.

01:23:30.820 I don't care.

01:23:31.100 I will not.

01:23:31.960 I'm going to stay.

01:23:32.800 So she's probably.

01:23:33.680 So people want to hear our opinions, she said, on politics.

01:23:37.220 They want.

01:23:37.420 Oh, she said that?

01:23:37.980 Yeah.

01:23:38.180 They want to hear from us on politics.

01:23:41.200 Do they?

01:23:43.000 I, you know, it's a hate watch for me at best, but I can barely gut it out.

01:23:48.380 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 Barely gut it out.

01:23:49.640 It's amazing that we're actually running these people, like Whoopi Goldberg's political analysis.

01:23:53.640 Okay.

01:23:53.980 I don't know how we got to the point where that became relevant.

01:23:56.320 We do it just to make fun of them because they're very funny in an unintentional way.

01:24:00.240 Yeah.

01:24:00.780 But we'll see whether they do back off of all of this.

01:24:03.820 All right.

01:24:03.980 We're going to take a break.

01:24:04.740 And when we come back, you may remember about, I don't know, was it like six weeks ago or so?

01:24:10.560 Maureen and I, before there was Blonde Origin, there was With Love, Megan.

01:24:15.080 It was our parody on the Meghan Markle absurd Netflix series, which is her trying to be a 0.96

01:24:22.560 Martha Stewart type and failing miserably. 1.00

01:24:25.340 Well, we have a part three.

01:24:27.500 It's short.

01:24:28.260 You're going to enjoy it.

01:24:29.120 And even Maureen has not seen it.

01:24:31.080 We will show it to you next.

01:24:32.720 And if we have time after that, we got to bring you the update on Bill Belichick.

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01:26:37.040 For those of you who haven't seen parts one and two, they're also on our YouTube feed.

01:26:41.300 But we decided to put a parody together of the Meghan Markle ridiculous Netflix series

01:26:46.640 With Love, Meghan, where she tries to reinvent herself as some sort of Martha Stewart type, 0.54

01:26:52.360 doing the most ridiculous, basic things like literally pouring pretzels from one bag into

01:26:59.120 another. 0.96

01:27:00.160 And we've been having so much fun at her expense.

01:27:03.660 All of you asked for more.

01:27:05.100 And indeed, we do have a short, but worth it, part three.

01:27:10.240 Here it is.

01:27:12.260 Previously on With Love, Megan.

01:27:14.740 Oh, my God.

01:27:16.620 Hi.

01:27:18.200 Hi.

01:27:18.660 You look amazing.

01:27:19.680 Oh, you look even better.

01:27:22.000 I'm doing something really generous for you, and you're going to absolutely love them.

01:27:26.540 And then I just dump them.

01:27:27.920 Wow.

01:27:28.660 Just like that.

01:27:29.900 It's very important of you to put a little fruit in my bubbly.

01:27:32.680 I think it elevates it.

01:27:34.180 Cheers, dear.

01:27:35.560 I think people are happier when they're around me if they're intoxicated.

01:27:38.920 Finally, I can breathe again.

01:27:44.940 I've got it.

01:27:46.280 One pot pasta is happening.

01:27:51.380 I'm not reading.

01:27:52.500 I have this in the head.

01:27:53.840 You don't need to see that.

01:27:55.460 Labels aren't important to me, Maureen.

01:27:58.920 The one pan, that's important.

01:28:01.480 12-ounce cherry or grape tomatoes.

01:28:03.580 Normally, we get these from my garden, but it's not the season for tomatoes.

01:28:07.100 You're going to put that in the pan.

01:28:08.660 You're just going to lay that flat in the pan.

01:28:10.400 It looks like little green pearls.

01:28:12.280 Green pearls.

01:28:13.340 Green pearls.

01:28:14.620 Green pearls, girls. 0.97

01:28:16.740 Green pearls, girls. 0.97

01:28:19.100 Oh! 0.60

01:28:22.160 So where'd you grow up?

01:28:24.740 I'm from originally Los Angeles, and then, you know, by way of Northwestern, wound up back

01:28:30.080 in Los Angeles.

01:28:30.820 Oh, okay.

01:28:31.580 Yeah.

01:28:32.040 I just came back here because I have a natural connection to it.

01:28:34.560 What I really wanted to do was direct my lifestyle blog.

01:28:37.940 It was a time of Deal or No Deal, in which I was obviously the most coveted, looked-after

01:28:41.720 model.

01:28:42.460 And then, ultimately, I moved on to acting.

01:28:44.840 After that, I met Dee.

01:28:46.540 We fell in love.

01:28:47.560 I became a princess.

01:28:48.780 I moved into a cat.

01:28:49.760 Maureen.

01:28:50.340 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:28:51.400 I, it's, you know, it's a lot.

01:28:52.860 It's, I just, I can't absorb the enormity of your life.

01:28:55.980 I don't even know how you put it.

01:28:56.300 Maybe you should put the drink down so you could pay better attention.

01:28:58.880 All right, we have things to do.

01:29:01.380 Into the pan.

01:29:03.620 Didn't I tell you food is my love language?

01:29:05.380 This is probably my love language.

01:29:06.840 I'm not looking at a recipe.

01:29:07.960 I've got this in my head.

01:29:08.860 That's another thing that makes me special.

01:29:10.680 We scattered some, some greens on there.

01:29:14.740 This is fresh from my garden.

01:29:16.540 Pay no attention to that sticker.

01:29:17.660 I don't know how that got on me.

01:29:19.280 Uh-oh.

01:29:19.860 Oh, my dog just got in our pool, and there's the pool man trying to get him out, and he's

01:29:23.960 all wet now.

01:29:24.600 Oh, okay, stand by.

01:29:26.180 Be right back.

01:29:27.580 Stradwick!

01:29:28.780 Oh, Stradwick!

01:29:30.760 Sorry.

01:29:32.160 Oh, you went in the pool, didn't you?

01:29:33.800 No, no.

01:29:35.020 Bad boy.

01:29:37.220 Don't let him rub up against you.

01:29:38.820 Oh, God.

01:29:39.840 You're good.

01:29:40.600 Just don't rub up against anybody.

01:29:42.120 He's very wet.

01:29:43.600 It's been a while, and I kind of feel like it might be time for an outfit change.

01:29:47.300 I think we should both change this time.

01:29:49.500 Part of our love language.

01:29:50.620 Yes, that's exactly right.

01:29:51.600 Right.

01:29:52.680 I could use a break anyway.

01:29:54.220 So, this is perfect timing.

01:30:05.600 Oh, fabulous.

01:30:06.740 I just threw it on.

01:30:07.880 You?

01:30:08.220 Of course.

01:30:08.800 Naturally.

01:30:09.620 I mean, this is really what I'm comfortable in most of the time.

01:30:12.520 I prefer to come home after a long day and just slip into something a little bit more elevated,

01:30:17.520 if you will.

01:30:18.120 We're going to make a special fruit medley.

01:30:25.440 It took my producer, like, three hours to pull the fruit together from the grocery store,

01:30:31.660 so that's done.

01:30:32.700 Moms, you can just whisk right over to your garden, and then the Whole Foods, and then 1.00

01:30:36.320 the Trader Joe's, and ideally the Farmer's Market, and you too can come up with totally

01:30:40.080 organic, natural, regenerative products like I have here.

01:30:44.680 Let's get washing.

01:30:46.480 Let's go.

01:30:47.580 I think this is a very relatable thing that you're doing here.

01:30:51.440 That's what I am.

01:30:52.280 I'm relatable.

01:30:53.000 I'm just like everyone else.

01:30:54.540 No, they point down, point down.

01:30:56.980 That's how I do it, which means it's the best, the best way.

01:31:01.240 All right, so this is just what I do.

01:31:02.820 I just whip this up in the mornings.

01:31:04.040 You could do this with one small row for your kids for breakfast.

01:31:06.800 Ideally in your white cashmere.

01:31:08.560 It's just fruit.

01:31:09.600 It's just presented in a different way.

01:31:12.100 An early rise might really help, like, three or four.

01:31:16.680 It's a real delight in being able to be a present parent.

01:31:19.620 With a nanny. 0.58

01:31:20.720 Right, right, of course, of course.

01:31:22.200 You've got to be able to just, like, go with the flow when you're a working mom.

01:31:25.880 You all have to work.

01:31:26.700 We all have a lot of stuff to do.

01:31:28.360 If you literally have seven hours to devote to your breakfast charcuterie, you're going

01:31:34.200 to wow them.

01:31:35.280 This is gorgeous.

01:31:36.720 It's so sweet.

01:31:38.560 Nailed it.

01:31:40.400 Nailed it!

01:31:41.520 I can't wait to watch the children eat this whole thing.

01:31:45.260 Do you have children?

01:31:46.180 Where's my drink?

01:31:47.540 Could you please pass my drink?

01:31:48.800 I'm not sure why it's so far away.

01:31:50.560 My God!

01:31:51.860 It's exhausting being her.

01:32:00.320 Ready?

01:32:01.520 And...

01:32:02.840 Voila! 1.00

01:32:04.460 Actually, it looks delicious.

01:32:06.580 Let's find out whether it is.

01:32:09.060 Here we go.

01:32:10.500 Get all of the goodness in there.

01:32:18.120 Mm! 0.68

01:32:20.700 Not bad.

01:32:21.440 Not bad.

01:32:22.180 Not bad.

01:32:22.660 Well, this has been so lovely.

01:32:27.060 I'm so happy to have you here, my dear, dear, close, long-life-long friend.

01:32:30.920 I am so happy I could come and help you in your pursuit of joy, elevation, and perfection.

01:32:41.060 Nailed it.

01:32:41.660 Nailed it.

01:32:42.020 Nailed it.

01:32:45.160 Strudwick!

01:32:45.720 I was wondering, wondering, wondering, wondering if you were going to use the black tie look that we did.

01:33:00.420 Yes, we had to.

01:33:00.920 Yes, we had to.

01:33:01.820 My recollection of that was somehow Strudwick jumping in the pool and you going out in the black tie look.

01:33:09.060 Did I misremember that?

01:33:10.160 I guess we don't.

01:33:10.840 Yeah, I thought that was what happened, too.

01:33:12.780 But now, looking at the tape, no, I was still in my first outfit.

01:33:15.100 But for the listening audience, in the end there, we changed into full black tie gowns and furs. 0.98

01:33:21.420 So her stupid series has her changing outfits every two minutes, like one does when one has a friend over. 1.00

01:33:27.740 Exactly. 1.00

01:33:28.400 And especially like one does when one's trying to prove how relatable they are.

01:33:31.940 Yes.

01:33:32.700 You know, that you're not constantly switching in and out of trying to sort of one-up each other with your look.

01:33:38.240 Your look.

01:33:39.280 Megan did not understand that word, allegedly.

01:33:42.980 But yeah, no, that's what you do.

01:33:44.200 And I think that, you know, it was a day, Megan.

01:33:47.080 It was a day.

01:33:48.040 I think the whole the whole thread of that one was she keeps having all these so-called friends coming on her show.

01:33:54.360 And it's very clear as you watch the show, she knows nothing about her friends.

01:33:58.320 And that's why you're my lifelong friend.

01:34:00.840 But I was like, you know, where'd you grow up?

01:34:02.560 Do you have any children?

01:34:03.560 Like what is your backstory?

01:34:06.180 Like what is your wiki thumbnail?

01:34:07.920 I know nothing about you.

01:34:09.540 And by the way, I only want to talk about myself.

01:34:11.220 I only want to talk about you as we discussed last time.

01:34:13.600 You would ask a question and I would sort of try to jump in while retaining my dignity.

01:34:17.940 And you would just cut me off and move on to some other like thing that you were beautifully executing.

01:34:23.420 And by the way, like, can we talk about like trying the one pot pasta?

01:34:28.420 What do you mean?

01:34:28.940 When we actually eat it?

01:34:29.900 Yeah.

01:34:30.100 I thought it was good.

01:34:31.600 I thought it wasn't bad either.

01:34:32.720 I was impressed we did it.

01:34:34.460 For the record, we followed the Martha Stewart recipe, not the Meghan Markle recipe.

01:34:40.360 Which she did steal.

01:34:41.600 Like if you look at hers, it's just it appears to be just pure theft of the Martha Stewart recipe, which was decent.

01:34:48.760 And so I haven't made it again, but it's there.

01:34:50.960 But that charcuterie thing is such a nightmare.

01:34:53.360 That thing took forever.

01:34:54.220 That was the longest thing we did.

01:34:55.380 No one could ever do that at home for a kid in a morning.

01:34:58.460 Nor would they want to.

01:34:59.560 I mean, and then finally, Strudwick getting the cocktail.

01:35:03.500 We how many we drank like five glasses.

01:35:05.420 I know he got our cocktails.

01:35:07.380 He got our peanut butter roll thing in the first episode or second episode.

01:35:11.380 Right.

01:35:11.680 And then he got our what's the other thing he ate?

01:35:14.980 He he ate.

01:35:16.720 I can't remember.

01:35:17.340 There was a third thing he ate, but he was a menace as he normally is.

01:35:20.100 But he's a sweet boy, but a bad boy.

01:35:22.820 So I do want to show you one of the clip of her.

01:35:25.420 She's out still doing her founder podcast.

01:35:27.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:28.500 And she wanted us all to know as she worked in in that clip we ran there to remind us she's a regular person, Maureen.

01:35:36.220 She's a working mom. 0.90

01:35:37.920 So she gets what it's like to be a working mom.

01:35:40.340 Here's the clip.

01:35:40.820 I will say for myself, like, especially when they're baby babies.

01:35:46.040 And yes, the crime before I was a mom, and I've always wanted to be a mom.

01:35:49.580 Before I was a mom, I was like, oh, gosh, I'm going to give a speech with a baby on my hip.

01:35:54.020 Yeah.

01:35:54.520 I had a whole vision.

01:35:55.560 I was like, I'm just going to.

01:35:56.900 And then you fast forward.

01:35:58.660 Granted, I had a lot of external things happening.

01:36:00.520 By the time I had both pregnancies and both babies, but it was not the way I envisioned it.

01:36:07.860 For me, it's so important that my kids see me as a working mom.

01:36:11.620 Oh, my God.

01:36:12.680 And that we all see her as that because what she's she feels guilty about the hundred and fifty million dollars she grifted off of being a fake royal. 0.98

01:36:24.280 Me, me, me, me, me.

01:36:25.800 So important.

01:36:26.580 As I've predicted, once these kids hit 18, they are moving to the East Coast, if not out of the country.

01:36:33.880 Could be back to the UK entirely.

01:36:35.460 Or could be back to the UK entirely.

01:36:37.200 Exactly.

01:36:38.100 You know, and it was the whole thing, too.

01:36:39.180 She was saying on one of the other shows, you know, I write them emails every night.

01:36:42.940 Yeah.

01:36:43.440 So that so three hundred sixty five.

01:36:45.340 I can't do the math.

01:36:46.320 Three hundred sixty five days times 18.

01:36:47.840 Yeah.

01:36:48.120 How many emails is that like?

01:36:49.120 Like they're going to have the time to go through that.

01:36:50.800 No.

01:36:51.300 Who the hell wants to review thousands of emails from their mom when they were two when they're later 22? 0.77

01:37:00.640 And then, of course, there's I leave the room from them.

01:37:03.420 We don't ever talk about the help.

01:37:05.100 Right.

01:37:05.740 Right.

01:37:05.920 I leave the room just to take a moment for myself into the other room.

01:37:09.880 And then I miss them so much that rather than go back into the other room, I scroll on my phone.

01:37:14.420 Right.

01:37:14.880 But she pictured herself giving her speeches with a child on the hip.

01:37:19.240 She's just so cool.

01:37:20.200 She's going to do it.

01:37:20.900 But now that she's a working mom, Maureen, she's realizing it's just so hard.

01:37:25.200 You know, the life work balance, notwithstanding your huge mansion and your full staff and the fact that you're married to a prince.

01:37:31.400 It's just it's very she she understands the plight of working women across America.

01:37:35.460 Clearly, she does.

01:37:36.360 And also, I'm curious as to how she was going to give said speeches with a baby on her hip when Prince Harry has said the reason they left was largely to keep their children completely out of the public eye.

01:37:44.980 Right.

01:37:45.360 Right.

01:37:45.580 Which she wants us to remind us of that she's a princess and she was part of the royal family.

01:37:49.520 That's why she couldn't give the speeches, because there was a lot going on in my personal life at the time my babies were born.

01:37:54.360 There was so much going on, like when you're slinging allegedly baseless accusations of racism against two of the most famous monarchs on the planet.

01:38:01.320 You know, there's a lot going on.

01:38:02.720 Couldn't have a baby on the hip because I had to sling those from the hip. 0.99

01:38:05.660 Ba-dum-bum. 1.00

01:38:06.300 OK.

01:38:07.020 Now, I'm going to have to get to the auto pen story on Monday because we don't have time for it.

01:38:10.320 But it's interesting.

01:38:11.300 There is an investigation underway, and there is reportedly a Democrat whistleblower saying who was signing it and when.

01:38:17.260 So more on that.

01:38:18.120 But quickly, Bill Belichick, a video has hit of him leaving the home of what we now believe was his then-girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.

01:38:31.020 And this journalist, Pablo Torre, tracked it down.

01:38:34.400 He was shirtless.

01:38:35.480 It was before we really knew that they were having an affair, and she was so much younger than he was.

01:38:40.400 Here's the video.

01:38:41.140 Oh, my God.

01:38:41.740 Oh, Pablo Torre got his hands on that and probably didn't know whether he should show us or not.

01:38:49.340 And now there is an interview, right, of the woman who owned that house.

01:38:58.380 Did she speak with Pablo Torre?

01:39:00.080 I think this is it and sought 20.

01:39:02.140 I come off the golf course, and we were just chatting about different things, and that's when she said that she wanted to know how far Danvers was.

01:39:11.620 And I was like, oh, are you getting married?

01:39:12.820 She can now be competing pageants. 1.00

01:39:14.620 And I said, well, we're members at the golf course.

01:39:16.680 You should come play with us.

01:39:19.060 You know, my friends have clubs.

01:39:20.620 They can lend you.

01:39:21.080 She said she played.

01:39:22.060 That's right.

01:39:22.220 Yeah, she said she played.

01:39:22.960 And she also said she prefers the men's senior shaft.

01:39:26.420 Whoa.

01:39:26.740 I just sort of didn't really think much about that until later.

01:39:32.540 OMG.

01:39:33.920 That's so good.

01:39:35.640 There's a question about whether, like, reportedly this is video that helped keep him out of getting another NFL coaching job.

01:39:42.020 He wound up settling for the college level.

01:39:44.100 And, oh, my God, look at this.

01:39:46.060 And now there's speculation that did she leak it?

01:39:48.500 Did she have something to do with it in order to, like, I don't know.

01:39:52.160 Did she want him not to get another job at the NFL or just to be more dependent on her?

01:39:55.900 I have no idea.

01:39:56.900 But there's now reports that they're engaged.

01:39:59.780 And you tell me how this is going to end, Maureen.

01:40:03.280 Oh, if I were one of Bill Belichick's kids, I would just me, just my opinion.

01:40:08.320 I would be concerned for his physical safety.

01:40:11.600 Yeah, I really would. 0.98

01:40:12.440 I mean, we know he runs around like a slob. 1.00

01:40:14.480 It's part of his flex. 0.98

01:40:15.480 But there is this is also inelegant.

01:40:18.040 It is so unbecoming of a man who had that legacy.

01:40:20.960 See, and it's the shaft.

01:40:24.000 Oh, my God.

01:40:25.060 Shaft's kiss.

01:40:26.000 Can you imagine?

01:40:27.240 All I would say is akin to the theme in I, Jack Wright, available on BritBox.

01:40:32.460 Don't change your will, Bill Belichick.

01:40:34.980 Don't don't change your will to make her the beneficiary.

01:40:38.180 And if you do, don't tell her about it.

01:40:41.520 One hundred percent.

01:40:42.480 Although I do think she's running the show and apparent to a new report that just came 0.98

01:40:46.500 up.

01:40:47.020 Apparently, Jordan is being excised from polite society on Nantucket this summer.

01:40:51.700 Oh, maybe this this may take it another turn.

01:40:55.120 We don't know.

01:40:55.640 We'll find out.

01:40:56.460 Our own link.

01:40:57.220 Lauren is very pro the Belichick Jordan relationship. 0.98

01:41:00.340 And you can tune into his show to find out why.

01:41:02.880 But make sure for now you tune into subscribe and follow Maureen at The Nerve with Maureen

01:41:08.320 Callahan.

01:41:08.960 It's honestly it's perfect for a Saturday morning when you got your cup of coffee.

01:41:13.240 That's what I'll be doing.

01:41:14.240 And you can do it with me.

01:41:15.480 Maureen, love you.

01:41:16.380 Love you, too, Megan.

01:41:17.100 Thanks for being here.

01:41:18.880 Thank you all so much for watching.

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01:41:23.360 She's such a keeper.

01:41:24.240 What a star.

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01:41:31.200 And listen, have a wonderful, wonderful Memorial Day and take a minute, especially on Monday,

01:41:35.920 to think about our troops who pay the ultimate price and their families, too, to keep this

01:41:41.840 country safe and free.

01:41:43.480 It's not just a day off, right?

01:41:44.860 There are people who are really going to be thinking about lost loved ones on Monday.

01:41:48.600 And let's make ourselves among them, thinking about those who gave it all in the name of freedom

01:41:54.820 and liberty and all the great ideals that this country has fought and stood for for almost

01:41:58.980 250 years now.

01:42:00.280 We will have a special Memorial Day episode for you.

01:42:03.240 These episodes that we've been doing the past few years on Memorial Day, where we feature

01:42:07.860 a veteran who has caught our eye.

01:42:11.160 They're extremely popular.

01:42:12.940 And it's for a good reason, because we actually think long and hard about who we're going to

01:42:15.940 book on those days.

01:42:16.840 And you will not be disappointed on Monday.

01:42:20.200 Do you know who John McPhee is?

01:42:22.100 John McPhee is former Special Forces.

01:42:24.160 He was on Sean Ryan and he was on Joe Rogan.

01:42:27.600 But I'm telling you, you've never heard him like this.

01:42:30.620 We went places I had never heard him go.

01:42:34.220 He did not hold back.

01:42:35.920 He's one of the most interesting people I've ever sat across from.

01:42:39.640 He was right here in the Red Studio.

01:42:41.760 And every moment between us, I was on the edge of my seat.

01:42:45.600 The guy is unlike anybody I've ever talked to.

01:42:47.680 I think you're going to love it.

01:42:48.500 It airs on Monday and I would love your feedback.

01:42:51.320 In the meantime, you can email me as always, megan at megankelly.com.

01:42:55.160 Have a wonderful weekend with your family and we'll talk on Monday.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 23, 2025

Diddy Enablers Exposed, Legacy Media Hacks, and Meghan's ＂Working Mom＂ Narrative, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 1079

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