The Megyn Kelly Show - Diddy's Narcissistic Apology, and ＂Domestic Labor＂ in Marriage, with Allie Beth Stuckey and Britt Mayer ｜ Ep. 799

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.940 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.280 Joining me now, two cultural commentators and moms fighting for their kids and all of ours.

00:00:20.220 There's so much to get to, including more disturbing news about P. Diddy and news on Target's plans

00:00:25.660 to reduce the number of stores selling Pride-themed merchandise after last year's Pride fiasco.

00:00:33.420 We're almost to June. That's when this happens.

00:00:35.660 Joining me now, Allie Beth Stuckey, host of Blaze TV's Relatable podcast, and Britt Mayer, founder of Rooted Wings.

00:00:44.400 Ladies, welcome back. 1.00

00:00:46.180 So, Britt, this feels like a personal win to you, I imagine, that Target's scaling back at least in half of its stores.

00:00:52.760 We'd like to see this merchandise go away entirely, but is it true you haven't shopped at Target since last June?

00:00:58.980 Can you believe that? I haven't. It's been painful a couple times.

00:01:02.080 Good on you.

00:01:02.760 Like, twice, I've been like, oh, I just really need that new Magnolia thing.

00:01:08.180 I haven't done it. No, I held on to my conviction on this because I was so mad after what they did last summer,

00:01:14.740 and I just felt it was so blatant and disgusting that I was going to put my money where my mouth was,

00:01:19.960 and I, yeah, I have not shopped. So, I'm happy to see that they are scaling back.

00:01:26.560 I am going to take it as a win because it's a step forward.

00:01:30.000 Obviously, I would like to see it completely gone, but hey, you know what?

00:01:34.280 We work with what we can, and I do think that this is a big cultural victory to see them responding to consumers

00:01:40.720 and saying it didn't work out so well last time, so we're going to take a step back.

00:01:44.780 I have to say I'm still annoyed, Allie Beth. I feel like, eh, you know we're going to walk in

00:01:51.040 in certain pockets of the country, and we're still going to see the Tuckett bathing suit 0.97

00:01:55.160 for men trying to pose as women.

00:01:59.480 Right. So, I have not shopped at Target since 2021, actually.

00:02:04.580 Oh, nice.

00:02:05.080 Yes, I used to be the kind of person that would go to Target all the time, and you know what?

00:02:10.060 I'm not the kind of person that says you have to boycott every single company that you disagree with

00:02:15.880 in some way. My stance is that you just have to do what you can, and for me, the chest binder is like

00:02:23.120 the tucking, especially marketed to children because I do think these things are marketed to adolescents.

00:02:28.740 That was just too far for me. I don't care how many cute things Joanna Gaines or that McGee company 1.00

00:02:36.120 sells at Target. I can find it elsewhere, and again, I don't have a perfect life of only buying

00:02:44.220 at places that wholly align with my values, but for me, Target, we have a lot of buying power as

00:02:50.680 suburban moms, and so I said, you know what? I'm done, and it's been a lot easier than I thought, 0.98

00:02:56.500 and I'm going to keep going strong because you're right. I'm still annoyed by them, too.

00:03:00.440 Yeah, and here's what they said. So right now, they're not backing down on their messaging at

00:03:04.960 all. The spokesperson put out the following. Target is committed to supporting the LGBTQIA plus

00:03:10.920 community. I don't even know what those last letters mean. It's so ridiculous. During Pride Month 1.00

00:03:15.480 and year round. However, Britt, last year, Target's quarterly sales fell for the first time in six years

00:03:23.480 during the Pride Month quarter because so many Americans were so outraged about the nonsense with

00:03:31.160 the trans ideology being shoved in our faces as we went in there to get toilet paper, and at the time,

00:03:37.840 Target said through an executive that there was a strong reaction to the Pride merchandise explaining

00:03:42.720 the loss of sales, and the reaction was, quote, a signal for us to pause, adapt, and learn,

00:03:49.060 and so what have they learned? I guess that they're still going to do it, but they'll do it in areas

00:03:54.900 where we're not, what, media heavy, or we, I mean, you're probably going to get it in California.

00:04:00.160 I'm sure I'll be getting it here in Connecticut. I'm like, it's going to be in my stores.

00:04:03.660 I'm going to get it in my stores in Connecticut. I guess they're not going to put it in, like,

00:04:07.660 Mississippi now. Well, that's not good enough.

00:04:10.540 Yeah. Oh, I totally agree. It's not good enough. For sure, it's not good enough,

00:04:13.760 and until they get their, their marketing off of our kids with this agenda, then it's not good

00:04:19.380 enough. I do think, though, the win is that they're taking a step back instead of a step forward. You

00:04:24.700 know, they could have said, we're all in all over again and get ready. It's going to be bigger and

00:04:29.020 better than last year, but no, money talks, and at the end of the day, if the money is not coming in,

00:04:34.180 and if enough suburban moms are saying, we'll shop elsewhere, then I do think that sends a strong

00:04:39.560 message. So my encouragement to American moms would be wait and see what it looks like in your 0.74

00:04:45.060 Target shop, and if it's, you know, back to the same circus that it was last time, then hold out

00:04:50.920 again. It's really not that hard. It's kind of like going sober. Like, once you get through the first

00:04:55.020 few months, you're like, you know what? I feel great. I am saving money, and I feel really good.

00:04:59.520 I also haven't been in Target in forever, but it's just because I don't, I don't generally go to

00:05:03.780 Target. I don't, I'm not sure exactly where I go. I think I just feed Jeff Bezos and his wife,

00:05:09.560 more money for non-existent dresses. I think that's kind of what I'm doing. That's how we

00:05:14.400 get our toilet paper and our massive, you know, whatever. Anyway, I don't care about them, but I'm

00:05:18.980 going to, I'm actually going to do the opposite this year, ladies. I want to make a point of going 0.98

00:05:22.720 into the Target just to see if they have it, and then I'm going to be really loud in person and

00:05:28.660 through this microphone to, to call attention to it if I see it. Okay. I've, I got to talk to you

00:05:34.400 about P Diddy. I haven't had the chance to address this since it broke. Um, I wasn't on the

00:05:39.380 air on Friday and that's when it hit on CNN and this tape of him beating his then girlfriend,

00:05:45.840 Cassie is about the most disturbing thing I've seen in a couple of years, other than that horrific 0.99

00:05:52.340 child torture videos that sometimes pop up on X. Um, for those of you who haven't seen it,

00:05:58.300 I think we have it. And, um, this happened in March 5th, 2016. Yeah, we do. It was from the

00:06:03.420 Hotel Intercontinental in LA. It is disturbing. And here it is. It's Diddy versus Cassie,

00:06:10.320 his girlfriend walking down the hall. You can see she's grabbed things. He's running in

00:06:13.820 a towel only after running. Clearly he catches up with her. He grabs her by the back of the 0.92

00:06:20.820 head, shoves her to the ground. He kicks her hard, grabs her stuff. Cause he wants to get

00:06:26.160 her out of there, kicks her again and seems to pull her by her hair or head out of there, 1.00

00:06:35.660 out of the view of the camera. And we ultimately know, according to her lawsuit, at least he took

00:06:40.020 her back to the hotel room where she claims he hid her for days. So people couldn't see the bruises

00:06:44.460 and that this was not a one-time thing. I, I mean, ladies, I, he's a disgusting pig. He's a 1.00

00:06:52.540 monster. He's a criminal. He belongs in jail. And I believe every word she wrote in that lawsuit,

00:06:59.060 every word. We did a show just one week ago today, last Wednesday with a lawyer, uh, who works for

00:07:05.140 long crime where we outlined all the allegations against him. And like you would do as any good

00:07:09.040 journalist, we inserted a hefty amount of skepticism. We don't know the lawyer who represents a lot of

00:07:14.100 these plaintiffs has been chastised by, for, by the bar for, or by, by the judge for being a little

00:07:19.400 too salacious in the allegations. You know what? Because they're true. At least this one was true.

00:07:25.700 And this man's career is over. I mean, you tell me, but this to me is an example of what enormous

00:07:33.560 money and fame can do to corrupt, not just those around you, but an entire industry. Because

00:07:42.000 Brit, the intercontinental took $50,000 from Diddy reportedly to hide that tape. He went to them

00:07:51.260 knowing he was on camera. He paid them 50 grand. And why didn't they run to the cops instead of taking

00:07:57.360 the $50,000? You, there's going to be a litany of people who know the truth about him, who saw things

00:08:05.300 like this over and over, who covered up for him. He's guilty, but he's not the only one.

00:08:10.460 Yeah. He's a total animal. That's animal beast behavior. And I was reading too, on the story

00:08:16.800 that apparently after she left the hotel, she came back and the hotel said, just get back in

00:08:22.560 the taxi. We saw, we saw what happened. It's like, how is this all just now coming out that everyone

00:08:27.700 was running cover for him? But the reality is that humans make very bad gods. And when we elevate

00:08:33.920 people to these positions where they are totally detached from objective right and wrong, and

00:08:40.340 they're just idolized, like this is what happens, you know, and then they can protect their, their

00:08:45.220 godness with money and they just become demons. I mean, it is demonic. That video for people who

00:08:51.260 didn't get to see it, it is so disturbing. And it reminds me of that same feeling I got seeing those

00:08:57.160 videos from the October 7th, um, with, with the girls, you know, being pulled into just treated like

00:09:04.120 chattel. And, um, that's what happens when people are so unhitched from what is righteous and what

00:09:11.000 is good that they make themselves gods and human gods behave like demons. And I hope that his career 0.99

00:09:16.800 is completely over and that he loses his hold of idolatry. Um, because it was, there is zero

00:09:23.460 justification for what he did and he denied it at first. And now he's coming out all these years

00:09:29.060 later with like this half half-assed apology, you know, no, no, it was wicked beyond words. And,

00:09:37.420 um, yeah, I hope it was, it was wicked. That was animal-like behavior. And Allie Beth,

00:09:43.580 his apology is nothing, nothing like a real apology. We'll play part of it. Here he is.

00:09:49.020 Now, after he was caught, after someone leaked the tape to CNN first, Brit's right. He smeared Cassie

00:09:56.120 when she made an allegation of this exact thing in her complaint. He denied it, said she was a liar

00:10:03.460 and said it was all a money grab. Um, and here he is now after he's caught with his quote unquote

00:10:09.840 apology. It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in your life. Sometimes you got to do that.

00:10:18.460 I was fucked up. I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses. My behavior on that video

00:10:29.380 is inexcusable. I take full responsibility for my actions in that video. I'm disgusted.

00:10:37.780 I was disgusted. Then when I did it, I'm disgusted. Now

00:10:43.160 I went and I sought out professional help.

00:10:48.700 Oh, right. Sure. When with whom exactly? Let's have a name. Let's see the dates. It's a lie. I

00:10:56.060 don't believe one word of that. According to these multiple lawsuits, Allie Beth, he's been doing this

00:11:01.120 to multiple people, male and female for years. Typical narcissistic apology, quote unquote,

00:11:09.340 apology. I, I, me, me. It was such a dark time, almost painting himself as a victim. Like he was

00:11:15.000 just a victim of the darkness in his mind. He was a victim of his circumstances. He said that he was

00:11:20.720 disgusted with his behavior. Then as it was happening, not disgusting enough to take your

00:11:25.860 hands off of her, not disgusted enough at your behavior to stop abusing her and kicking her and 0.82

00:11:32.000 pulling her down the hallway. You were not disgusted with your behavior. I'm sorry. I don't

00:11:36.820 buy that. He's disgusted with his behavior. Now this is not a repentant person. And it really does

00:11:42.760 disgust me the network of people that were required to hide something like this. Even when she tried to

00:11:50.600 speak up, it took not just P. Diddy, but all of the people around him, so many different touch

00:11:56.380 points, so many different people who had the opportunity to say, yeah, I saw that too, who

00:12:01.180 were silenced by intimidation, silenced by his power, silenced by money. Who knows? But I'm thankful

00:12:06.980 now. I'm thankful now that we have the footage of this horrifying incident. And I'm thankful that

00:12:12.160 her testimony is being validated. There, the complaints, we just went through them, as I said last

00:12:18.520 week. So I had the refresh on the mind, but there are allegations, including the following, and I

00:12:22.380 should state for the record, he denies all of them. Also for the record, he denied that he beat her in

00:12:27.840 a hotel. Um, there is an allegation that she at one point exchanged some sort of emojis with, uh, the

00:12:38.240 rapper, uh, what is it? Our cutie forget, forgive me. I can't remember his name, uh, kid cutie. That's

00:12:44.880 what it is. And, um, that did, he said, I'm going to light his car, a car on fire. I'm going to,

00:12:50.440 I'm going to set his car on fire and set a bomb in his car. And I'm sure totally coincidentally

00:12:54.600 that that guy had a bomb in his car, his car blew up soon thereafter. Kid cutie, uh, I guess it's

00:13:02.060 cutie, not cutie, whatever it is. Um, there there's allegation after allegation of the serial,

00:13:07.920 uh, intoxication of women against their will drugging of women, lacing bottles of alcohol 0.98

00:13:14.360 with, uh, some sort of drug that was not disclosed to the women and then forcing them to while

00:13:20.500 intoxicated and completely drugged out to engage in sex acts with sex workers who they did not 0.54

00:13:26.260 consent to be with or know were coming in, not to mention violence, beating up rape, manhandling

00:13:33.220 that she tried to leave him. She met him in a public place as an allegation that he denies

00:13:36.900 to tell him, I don't, I don't want to be in your life at all anymore. And that as soon as she went

00:13:40.860 back home, he pushed his way in and raped her. Is it hard to believe at all seeing that tape? Not

00:13:47.180 even a little. And so you're right, Brit, because what happens is did he, I never paid much attention

00:13:53.320 to the guy, but he's huge. He's got, he's got more money than God. He's enormously successful

00:14:02.080 and his tentacles. Like a couple of years ago, he released a video for his 50th birthday of all

00:14:08.980 these names. It recirculated recently because the dopes on Tik TOK were like, those are all the 0.99

00:14:13.400 people he's going to bring down. Right? Those are the people in on his sex ring. Oprah. Okay. Oh,

00:14:18.800 you can have your issues with Oprah. She's not part of a sex ring. Um, it wasn't, it was people who 1.00

00:14:24.280 attended his 50th birthday and it was a who's who of American celebrity and beyond party with Prince

00:14:32.040 Harry. Um, you want to tell me those parties were like a party that the three of us would throw for

00:14:39.180 one another, right? That we would attend that we bring our girlfriends to no, they, these people

00:14:45.520 saw a level of debauchery. I don't know if it was that bad, but a level of treatment and debauchery

00:14:51.500 behavior that they knew was wrong. And as close as the closer you get to him, the more actual in on

00:14:57.940 it, you're likely to find that a lot of people are going to go down here. Yeah. I wonder why people

00:15:03.820 feel the need to protect. And maybe that is, that's just the power, right? Like it's the money

00:15:09.800 and the power and the God likeness of these people that we elevate into these positions. But it is wild

00:15:15.220 to think so many had to have known what he was up to and that he was no good garbage, that he was a

00:15:21.980 horrible, horrible human being, a worthless guy. And they kept him elevated. And that's, uh, I mean,

00:15:29.880 it's an indictment on our culture. It's an indictment on entertainment and these people that we have set

00:15:35.420 into positions that our kids watch and they are, you know, we glamorize these people and make them

00:15:42.540 almost perfect. It's, um, it's just a sad state of our culture. All right. This leads me to weirdly,

00:15:49.680 or maybe not, cause there's a connection. Um, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, who, according

00:15:56.460 to multiple publications now, page six of the New York post, the daily mail may be splitting up,

00:16:01.680 which that he's reportedly gotten another home that he's living in without her. And that Jennifer

00:16:06.740 Garner, his ex is reportedly begging him to stay with JLo because she's been reportedly a stabilizing

00:16:13.360 force in his life. Uh, who knows, you know, they're all planting articles at this point against each

00:16:17.860 other in all likelihood. Um, and I have to say to me, Ali, Beth, this is another example of the worship

00:16:25.140 of the almighty dollar and celebrity and this, you know, just fame, right? This false God of,

00:16:32.680 to use Brit's term of fame. They go out there. These two, have they spent two minutes with each

00:16:37.980 other? They've been all over the movies, the, the, the ads. Occasionally they get a picture of

00:16:43.740 themselves on a yacht. Meanwhile, it seems from the tabloids that both of their children on both sides

00:16:49.200 are having some real issues. And these two are too focused on their careers and themselves. This is my

00:16:56.260 opinion to save their marriage, their wellbeing and their children's stable existence. Yeah. Yeah. And

00:17:06.020 you know, obviously this is all just our opinion. I don't think any of us know them personally, but

00:17:11.980 my assessment is that they kind of got swept up in the media excitement of them coming back together. I

00:17:18.360 think people were excited that, Oh my gosh, it's so nostalgic. Early two thousands, late nineties, JLo

00:17:24.120 and Ben, they're getting back together. It felt like we were kind of going back in time. And this

00:17:28.360 is amazing. Maybe they got swept up in that because everyone loves to be affirmed and applauded. They

00:17:34.000 got together. Maybe they realized, you know what, there was a reason why we broke up in the first

00:17:38.420 place. And this is still very unstable to me outside looking in, it looks turbulent. It looks volatile.

00:17:44.740 It looks emotional. I guess maybe there's some attraction there. They like to go down memory lane,

00:17:51.200 but it just doesn't look like a stable, solid relationship. Go ahead.

00:17:55.160 I'm going to let you finish your theory. That's it. That's my, that's basically my theory. It's

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00:18:59.720 All right. So here's my theory on what, what's going on with these two. And it's just a theory.

00:19:08.440 Uh, and no, I don't know them personally. She got together with him after a rod cheated on her.

00:19:15.100 Remember this? He cheated with a reality TV star, even though he was with JLo and like that she was

00:19:22.360 back with Ben Affleck pictured on the yacht like that. She was trying to change the narrative in

00:19:27.540 the press. She didn't like JLo got cheated on. And of course the press to your point earlier,

00:19:33.220 Ali Beth ran with it. Oh my God, Bennifer, they're back together. Yay. Memory lane. Here we go. We're

00:19:38.140 on it. And the whole thing to me, and I said it on the time at the time on the air seemed very much

00:19:43.340 to me like a PR maneuver that they were orchestrating the cameras. She orchestrates the cameras 1.00

00:19:48.440 everywhere. She goes, let's face it. There are people who are far more famous than Jennifer Lopez 1.00

00:19:54.020 who do not get pictured every week, going grocery shopping, going to the gym, going out to dinner.

00:20:00.880 I mean, hello, Taylor Swift is probably the most famous woman in the world. We don't see that of 0.97

00:20:05.300 her. We don't see it of Julia Roberts. We don't see it of a lot of these Hollywood stars, but we

00:20:09.100 see JLo. And by the way, to look at the music industry, Dua Lipa, all these, like all of them,

00:20:13.920 they're way more famous than she is now, but we don't see it. Why? Because they're not calling the

00:20:18.060 paparazzi at every turn saying, please get me, please publish me, please look at me, please give me PR

00:20:23.660 because I'm nothing without attention. And according to these reports in the tabloids, these two

00:20:30.020 have a split over how much attention is enough attention. He doesn't want as much and she wants 1.00

00:20:35.500 a never ending amount. There was a quote, I think of the Daily Mail of him saying, you know, I realized

00:20:39.660 it's kind of like saying to a fish or to a boat captain, okay, I'll marry you, but I don't really

00:20:44.200 like all the water and how this is an impossibility for the other person. So that's a quote by him,

00:20:50.980 you know, reportedly they're denying that they're even having marital problems for the record.

00:20:54.680 I don't believe that. So to me, this whole thing is an example of the wrong priorities.

00:21:02.560 It's fine to have a career. It's great to have a career, but chasing money, chasing fame,

00:21:08.180 chasing attention from strangers is not the way to a happy life, a happy marriage, a happy parent-child

00:21:14.200 relationship, or just a happy and healthy heart and soul. That's what I see, Britt.

00:21:19.620 Yeah. You know, I'm laughing because as you were sharing your thoughts, I could only picture

00:21:28.480 Meghan Markle and Harry. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I think that what's sad is some of

00:21:37.980 these people, they live for the hit, right? They live for the story and for always being in the news

00:21:44.040 and always being the headline. It's the same spirit of they had, they, their little engine in order to

00:21:49.860 go needs the fame. Um, it's the same. They should be friends. I don't know. To me, it's just so

00:21:56.340 disheartening because you, you see the media go along with it. Like, yeah, they're great. And then

00:22:02.200 when we see these problems with their kids, you're like, that's great too. No problem. And there's no

00:22:06.860 article, uh, for example, on what divorce multiple divorces in both of their cases due to children.

00:22:15.280 Nothing, Ali Beth, that will not get covered by the fawning media. 0.98

00:22:19.560 No, of course, because we keep perpetuating this myth. I mean, the progressive mainstream,

00:22:24.880 of course, the media is a part of that, that any type of family, no matter how fragmented,

00:22:30.740 no matter how turbulent is completely fine, that the child is somehow unaffected by it. As long as they

00:22:36.120 have some attachment somewhere, as long as they have some adults that love them somewhere,

00:22:41.300 they'll be fine. When all of the social science data has been telling us for 50 years that kids

00:22:47.760 benefit from intact marriages and an intact family. But in this, like to use kind of some terminology

00:22:55.720 that we've been using in this conversation, this like God of self mentality, uh, that we have in our

00:23:01.420 culture that you sacrifice everything, everyone else's needs and wellbeing on the altar of your

00:23:07.460 wants. We get a lot of glorified and trendy narcissism and selfishness that is cast as

00:23:14.440 self-love and self-discovery and self-fulfillment. No, it's just selfishness. And you're allowing other

00:23:20.880 people, namely children to suffer from that. And I agree. That's a really sad part of the story.

00:23:26.420 Yeah. This, this is the entry point. I think this is the proper entry point into the Harrison

00:23:33.400 Butker comments at this graduation event taken, you know, out of context in a vacuum. I will grant

00:23:41.880 he sounds like he is not so pro working wife and mother. Um, but you have to understand, I think,

00:23:48.760 and listening to him, it's a counter-cultural response. He's trying to re rehabilitate

00:23:54.560 a possibility for women that gets dumped on universally in the mainstream media. That's, 1.00

00:24:02.900 I think the context behind this guy's remarks again, which will go ignored in all the reporting

00:24:08.120 and has on what he said. So he's the kicker for the Kansas city chiefs. And he gave a commencement

00:24:14.200 address to a Catholic university and has been getting excoriated. There are still today pushes

00:24:21.100 and a petition with tens of thousands of names on it to have him fired. There is a real push to

00:24:26.900 get him fired from the chiefs for comments. He made not in his uniform, not while representing the

00:24:31.260 chiefs, uh, at this Catholic university newsflash Catholics have certain beliefs. Uh, maybe you

00:24:37.400 didn't Google them, you know, before you decided to pass your judgment, but here's in part how he got

00:24:42.980 himself in hot water. So 35, I want to speak directly to you briefly, because I think it is

00:24:49.620 you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here 1.00

00:24:54.980 now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going

00:24:59.900 to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would

00:25:04.780 venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you

00:25:09.860 will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel would be the first to say

00:25:15.220 that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

00:25:22.500 He went on to add, it can't be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met

00:25:27.240 in band class and here he got teary back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife

00:25:32.360 and embrace one of the most important titles of all homemaker. Now this has led to a full meltdown

00:25:38.300 on the left. The Today Show, oh, they were horrified. Maria Shriver with a whole rebuttal.

00:25:46.020 I mean, and like the left-wing TikTokers are very upset, Brit, about him telling graduates as of that

00:25:54.240 day, female graduates, you know, what I just said. The best role is homemaker and you've been sold a bill 1.00

00:26:03.520 of goods about, you know, what a career would look like and motherhood might be okay for you. That's

00:26:09.400 their take on what he said. What do you think? Well, you're right. When you isolate comments out

00:26:14.540 of context, you can make it whatever you want it to be. And that's clearly what they're doing.

00:26:18.540 What he spoke is an assault on our modern day narrative that you, in order to be something in

00:26:26.400 society, you have to go put on the girl boss shorts and leave your kids at home. And that's going to 1.00

00:26:33.440 make you a real woman. And it's been the pervasive lie, the feminist movement fed us for a very long 1.00

00:26:39.200 time. But in it, what that lie did was it said, if you pursue anything other than that, you're less

00:26:45.200 than worthy. You would just, you'd want to be a mom. You'd want to take on that menial job, really. 1.00

00:26:51.240 So I wholeheartedly stand with, with Butker. I think what he spoke in full context was so

00:26:59.140 beautiful and so grounded in truth and traditional Christian. And that's why they hate it because it's 1.00

00:27:05.680 such an assault on the modern lies. But I would encourage young women everywhere who heard that

00:27:11.840 speech and are caught up in this, like he said, she said right now to dream with all your heart of

00:27:17.860 the beauty and glory of being a mom. I have achieved so much in my life. And I've held roles,

00:27:24.880 you know, when I was Miss California and first runner up at Miss USA, and I had tremendous

00:27:28.800 opportunities presented to me. I've lived that. And I can tell you, it all pales collectively

00:27:35.460 when I compare it to my role as a wife to my teenage sweetheart and a mom to my two beautiful kids.

00:27:44.140 All of that pales. So I wholeheartedly agree with what he spoke. And I think it's a worthy thing

00:27:50.560 for young women to hear that there is value in being a mom in our modern day.

00:27:56.680 Allie Beth, you're a working mom. You know, you've got it all. You're doing a show and you've got

00:28:00.760 young kids. What did you think of it? And you're a Christian.

00:28:04.960 Yes. And you know what? I'm not a Catholic. And there were plenty of things that I probably

00:28:09.360 didn't agree with in what he said. But here's what I don't understand is that other people who

00:28:16.320 disagreed with him a lot more fundamentally than I did, because I agreed with the spirit of everything

00:28:20.720 he said, even if I would take issue with some sentences here or there. I don't understand the

00:28:28.380 absolute freak out and meltdown. I saw people, even women who might consider themselves conservative

00:28:33.800 saying, who is he to tell women what to do? We're tired of being bossed around. I'm like,

00:28:39.480 dude, he was giving a speech. As you said, at the Catholic university, he was asked to speak there.

00:28:44.340 He wasn't talking to you. No one forced you to listen to him, to watch him. No one forced you to

00:28:49.700 weigh his words. He's not making you do anything. He is not going to walk into your cubicle and tell

00:28:54.480 you to get pregnant and make him a sandwich. He's not doing that. He has no power over your life.

00:28:59.320 He's sharing a perspective. You can say that you have a different perspective, but for you,

00:29:04.240 I think I saw this on The View, Sarah Haynes or whatever. She was like, oh, if these words are

00:29:09.260 oppressing other people and holding them back, then you're not really walking with Jesus. Lady,

00:29:14.880 he's saying words. He's saying words. You're going to be okay. He has no authority to tell you what to

00:29:21.720 do. He's sharing a traditionally Catholic perspective, and I say good for him. Let me tell you,

00:29:27.300 as a Catholic, when you get married in the Catholic church and you do pre-cana, the premarital

00:29:32.860 counseling with the priest, they make you say you're going to have children. You take a pledge

00:29:39.040 behind the scenes. Yes, I will have kids. And by the way, I've said before, I'm going through this

00:29:43.620 process of getting an annulment so that Doug and I can get married in a Catholic church.

00:29:47.440 And there too, one of the potential grounds for annulling your marriage is you weren't actually

00:29:52.500 committed to having children or he wasn't actually. I mean, it's a principle within Catholicism.

00:29:58.000 Him saying, don't forget to have the children is perfectly in line with what the Catholic church 0.52

00:30:03.640 teaches. So your point about this was a Catholic audience. He was asked to address them as fellow

00:30:09.920 Catholics. I guess that's just not allowed, but it does bother me. My audience knows, obviously, 1.00

00:30:18.080 I'm in favor of working women. Very much so. And, and I've done a lot of it myself, but I do hate 0.99

00:30:24.740 how any defense of the stay at home choice really does get sort of like, you're so provincial. Like

00:30:34.560 you're so cute. Okay. Like, like the secret underlying judgment seems to be women who stay at home

00:30:42.660 are kind of dumb. Like they couldn't make it. They just, they couldn't make it. And so it's good to

00:30:50.300 see somebody who famous and successful like that saying no, right on. It's an amazing choice. And

00:30:57.540 let me make you all feel great about it. Yes. Even though you just went to college and got a degree

00:31:03.060 and could easily just go right into the professional lane and completely eschew motherhood and being a 1.00

00:31:09.520 wife, like, let me validate it as a great option. If you choose to, to take it. Right. Yeah. I think

00:31:17.160 too, with all of this, one thing that really is in like the horizon of all of this is that we hear

00:31:24.300 live your truth, live your truth, be bold in your truth. But then as soon as that truth comes in

00:31:30.880 conflict with the narrative in caps, well, not that truth. And we're going to persecute you. And we're

00:31:36.280 going to make sure that you get fired from your job because we not that truth. You can only live

00:31:41.100 the truth that we approve of. And that's not the way it works. So that when you hear people say,

00:31:46.060 live your truth, that's a lie. They only want you to repeat the narrative that they approve of.

00:31:50.840 And anything short of that will be demonized and it will, they will assault it because that doesn't

00:31:56.520 work. It's not true. They want their narrative and only their narrative and nothing that comes in

00:32:01.340 conflict with that. So this actually is a good place to talk about what you're about to do,

00:32:06.820 Allie Beth, with the blaze on this. It's called Share the Arrows, an event that's coming up in

00:32:11.840 September. What is it? Yeah. Thank you so much. So this is an event bringing together Christian,

00:32:19.520 conservative women. You don't have to be Christian and conservative to come. You do have to be a woman 1.00

00:32:23.780 to come. But this is bringing together like-minded women who were looking at the state of the world,

00:32:29.540 the chaos, the confusion, the deceit that we see, how it's affecting us, how it's affecting our

00:32:34.820 children, how it's affecting women and girls specifically. And we're wondering what in the

00:32:39.760 world can we do? Not everyone has a platform like we three do. And they're wondering how can I as a

00:32:46.180 stay-at-home mom, as a wife, or maybe as an employee, as a company, at a company, as a teacher,

00:32:52.500 what can I do to push back against the darkness? What can I do to infuse clarity and courage in this

00:32:58.760 age of chaos and confusion? So that's what this event is about. We're going to have a few of the

00:33:06.200 leading Christian voices as speakers to speak into the chaos of gender ideology, of racial ideology,

00:33:14.180 all the progressive assault that we are seeing on our culture today, and what we can do to simply do

00:33:20.200 the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And the reason it's called

00:33:25.500 Share the Arrows, that's a term that we use a lot on my show. Whenever you see someone, and Megan,

00:33:30.140 you're so good at this, whenever you see someone who is taking some kind of heat, taking the arrows

00:33:35.640 from the mainstream, from the media, for standing up for a controversial position, rather than us

00:33:42.420 saying, ooh, I'm so glad that's not me. I'm glad that I'm not the one getting the arrows, and I'm going

00:33:47.240 to hide over here and pretend like I don't agree with them. No, no, no, no. Instead, we should be

00:33:51.900 standing up and saying, you know what you're reaming them for? I agree with her. That's me

00:33:56.680 too. So if you're going to throw the arrows at her, you're going to have to throw them my way too. 0.99

00:34:01.040 It's powerful. Courage is contagious. And when we all stand up together and say, whatever arrows

00:34:07.160 you're going to throw at her, you can send them my way. I think that's a really powerful force to be

00:34:12.760 reckoned with. I like that. I love that a lot. Britt, you should go to that, and then you guys should

00:34:17.620 come back on and we'll talk about what's happening. Oh, I'm planning on it. Yes. Y'all are invited.

00:34:21.020 September 28th, Dallas, Texas at a really big church here, and we have so far already exceeded

00:34:27.220 our expectations. So I'm very excited and really thankful. That's awesome. That's September 28th.

00:34:33.400 Steve Krakauer just reminded me that's the birthday of our show, 2020. So we'll be turning four

00:34:37.440 when you are celebrating that. I know, yay. So much happened in those four years. On the subject of

00:34:42.620 marriage, before we leave it, I do want to get to this. You hear this kind of stuff a lot from these

00:34:47.380 young women on TikTok where I don't go, but my staff does, and they know. I post on TikTok,

00:34:52.580 but it's not my thing. But I want my message out in front of the young people, so I have no problem

00:34:56.980 posting there until it is banned and no longer available in the United States. There's a mom

00:35:02.320 influencer, momfluencer, whatever. Her name is Paige Connell, and she had some thoughts on the

00:35:07.600 division of labor in a marriage. Listen to this.

00:35:12.420 Here's a list of things that I don't do for my husband. I don't do his laundry. He can do that

00:35:16.040 himself. I do my laundry, and we do the kids' laundry, but he does his own. I don't cook dinner.

00:35:21.660 He cooks dinner every single night. I do breakfast and lunch for us and our kids.

00:35:25.740 I don't pack him a lunch. If he's hungry, he'll figure out what he's going to eat for lunch the

00:35:29.060 same way that I do. I don't make his doctor's appointments because guess what? He's not making

00:35:33.640 mine. Would it be kind of me to do that? For sure. Is it my job? Absolutely not. Doing his laundry,

00:35:38.800 cooking him dinner, making him lunch, booking his doctor's appointments, all those things,

00:35:42.080 that's domestic labor. Do I do them occasionally when he's working a lot? Of course. It's not my

00:35:46.200 job as a wife. It is not in my job description to do all the domestic labor as small acts of 1.00

00:35:50.500 kindness to my partner and receive nothing in return. She seems fine, Allie Beth. What do you

00:35:54.900 think? Yeah, she's super annoying to me. Now, I don't think that you have to make your husband's 0.99

00:36:01.380 doctor's appointments in order to be qualified as a good wife and mom. I think you and your husband 1.00

00:36:05.980 can decide the division of labor. I think that that's fine. It is her attitude, her entitlement,

00:36:11.820 her posturing here that I'm not going to do that because that's domestic labor and I deserve to be 1.00

00:36:16.740 compensated for that. It's not enough for me just to do it out of grace and kindness for my husband.

00:36:21.560 That is the wrong attitude that I guarantee is a recipe for a power struggle and disaster down the

00:36:27.280 line. So it's not even necessarily that I take issue with what she and her husband decide that

00:36:32.480 they're going to do as far as chores, whatever. You can decide upon that. But this attitude,

00:36:39.080 I just found a really, really off-putting. I just like so much of the messaging from young

00:36:45.040 people these days, Britt, is like there's going to be like a contract agreement between the two of us

00:36:49.080 is going to be written down. This is how, I mean, there's a whole book that was very successful that

00:36:52.260 speaks to exactly this. I don't get it, right? Like in my marriage, we're just kind of organic. It's

00:36:57.460 like, I don't know how Doug got in charge of taking out the garbage and I'm not. It's just

00:37:02.560 cleverness and ignoring the job by me over many, many years. Like I don't have it more organically.

00:37:09.300 I don't get like this, the negotiation, like everything seems so point-driven, you know,

00:37:13.460 like, well, we're in competition with one another and like me doing more for you is somehow a loss for

00:37:20.420 me, even though you're the person or at least one of them, including my children, who I love more than

00:37:25.980 anyone else on this earth. How is this like a win-loss ratio? Yeah. I mean, what Allie said,

00:37:32.940 she annoys me. I went through her TikTok and every single one of her posts is like that.

00:37:38.080 I almost think that it's like a persona she's created. And that's like the whole social contagion

00:37:43.320 is it's like, you have to put on this act and really get those shares, you know? So you're going

00:37:47.720 to say something super controversial to get people to click it and share it because you want that fame.

00:37:52.800 That's what I get from her. I agree. My husband and I like are very much like you, Megan, where

00:37:58.680 stuff just happened organically. It wasn't like we drew out this contract of you're going to do this.

00:38:03.800 I'm going to do this. It just happened over the course of 15 years. Um, yes. And I do agree with

00:38:08.180 some of the things she said, like my husband does his own laundry because when we were dating,

00:38:12.340 he made it very clear that he didn't want me to shrink his stuff. So he just, he does his own

00:38:16.780 laundry and it's not any like, yeah, me, like I'm not going to take on that menial labor,

00:38:21.840 but that's what she made it into. And I think that's what Allie was saying that I agree with.

00:38:26.120 It's the spirit behind it. It's the spirit of this weird competition. And I think it's also the

00:38:31.620 social contagion of you're going to post something to get people talking, you know, right. I I'm like,

00:38:37.620 can you imagine like what life is like between the sheets for these two? Like I was just on top for

00:38:42.780 five minutes. Now I want you on top. No, it's, it's, it's unequal. No, come on. It's got to be

00:38:47.960 perfectly even. You went there. You went there. Honestly, like I had two orgasms. You have to have

00:38:52.800 two orgasms. What, what kind of a weird relationship is this? I'm going to write it down to my little

00:38:57.160 tally. It makes you think I have six brothers. I would never set them up with someone like her. 0.97

00:39:03.420 No, no, heck no, no. God, no. That's a problem. She doesn't realize how unattractive she's making 1.00

00:39:08.840 herself. And I guarantee that the husband is not a manly man. That was another thing that Harrison

00:39:13.620 Bucker was right about. In fact, let me play that soundbite. It's not 36. To the gentlemen here

00:39:17.840 today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not

00:39:22.860 necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is

00:39:29.060 absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large

00:39:35.680 role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same

00:39:40.580 absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S. And a correlation could be made in their drastically

00:39:45.820 lower violence rates as well. Be unapologetic in your masculinity, fighting against the cultural 0.75

00:39:52.040 emasculation of men. Do hard things. Never settle for what is easy. Amen, Alliebeth.

00:39:58.300 So good. Masculinity, like all different forms of strength, can be wielded both for good and for

00:40:05.120 evil. The same masculinity that can be used in negative aggression, used in a way to intimidate

00:40:13.080 women like we saw with P. Diddy, is also the kind of masculinity that builds civilizations and that 1.00

00:40:18.680 protects virtue and protects the most vulnerable. And so all this talk about toxic masculinity, you forget

00:40:25.920 how necessary masculinity is for the flourishing, for the survival of families, of communities,

00:40:32.180 of societies. And so I'm really glad to hear him say that because he's absolutely right.

00:40:37.140 All right. Last question. I've got to ask you about this, Britt. Something weird

00:40:40.580 is going on with the Miss USA and Miss Team USA, both of whom have just resigned within the span of a

00:40:50.620 couple of weeks of one another. You were Miss USA first runner-up. You were Miss California.

00:40:57.500 So the first gal, Miss USA resigned, Noella Voigt. And she said it was about her mental health. That's 0.63

00:41:06.460 why she was piecing out of the contest or the role, not the contest. She already won. And then people

00:41:12.700 noticed that in her post, the first letter in each sentence of her statement revealed the phrase,

00:41:18.060 I am silenced. And then the Team USA, Umsofia Sravastava. I don't have it. Sravastava. She resigned.

00:41:33.780 Sravastava. Sorry. Forgive me, Umsofia. She resigned saying, okay, I'll look back on this time fondly. 0.97

00:41:41.740 It was fulfilling, but my personal values no longer fully align with the direction of the organization.

00:41:45.700 Then their moms, not them because they're under NDAs, going on GMA and also sounded rather cryptic,

00:41:53.940 but here's what they said. Fans online noticed immediately when Noelia posted her resignation

00:41:59.580 online that the sentences seem to start with letters that spelled out, I am silenced.

00:42:05.180 Correct.

00:42:05.540 Was that intentional on her part?

00:42:07.180 I don't feel comfortable answering that question.

00:42:09.380 Do you feel like she was silenced?

00:42:10.780 She is and she would be the rest of her life if this NDA is not being left. The girls need to speak. 0.67

00:42:20.020 So I want to be clear. It's not about what they didn't get about the prizes. It's about how they

00:42:25.900 were ill-treated, abused, bullied, and cornered. Look at what happened to Noelia, Umsofia. 1.00

00:42:32.560 So really pay attention. We don't want them to go through this right now. It's not the right time

00:42:39.900 to participate.

00:42:42.380 So you think that young women should essentially stop participating in these types of pageants?

00:42:47.560 Absolutely. We just don't want these families and these girls to go through what we're going through.

00:42:53.320 Hmm. All right, Britt, what do you make of it?

00:42:55.080 Well, I think I should remind people that these are the first title holders under the

00:43:01.900 women. Remember the women? The new transgender director. Remember? Like the women, I make a 0.98

00:43:09.980 pageant for women. And we're like, yeah, you can't even say women. So these are the first title holders

00:43:16.240 under him. And when you have someone at the top who is clearly unwell, who is clearly mentally

00:43:22.260 off. And he's in responsible for all these young women who are very impressionable. And when I 0.97

00:43:29.840 competed in the Miss USA system, man, they like, they go after every little bit of you that's not

00:43:36.000 perfect to make it perfect. And there's a lot of stuff that's very questionable. I was actually,

00:43:41.960 Donald Trump was my boss when I was in the Miss USA system because it was his organization then.

00:43:46.760 But my direct director was a man who had been married, who then became gay. And there were real 0.95

00:43:52.960 weird things that happened in dressing rooms with him, like measuring my body and stuff that you just

00:43:58.980 kind of like are doe eyed, you know, because you're young and you don't know any different. You're thrown

00:44:03.860 into this. But I can only imagine with a direct, like they have now running the circus, what's going on.

00:44:11.600 Clearly there's stuff that's really wrong. And my heart goes out to those girls because I know it was

00:44:16.680 probably terrifying for them to leave their titles after hitting that high. It says a lot that

00:44:23.180 something went really, really bad, but I can't say I'm shocked. I can't say I'm surprised.

00:44:28.480 All we know so far is that the Miss USA, Noella Voight, she resigned in a letter and the letter

00:44:36.760 was reported. It was the New York Times and NBC who obtained a copy of it. And she writes as follows,

00:44:44.100 in part, there is a toxic work environment within the Miss USA organization that at best is poor

00:44:49.980 management and at worst is bullying and harassment. Went on to say Miss USA CEO and President Layla

00:44:57.160 Rose consistently failed to communicate. And that when she did, she was often cold and unnecessarily

00:45:04.120 aggressive. It's incredibly jarring to try to do my job and constantly be threatened with disciplinary

00:45:09.800 action, including taking away my salary for things that were never discussed with me.

00:45:13.760 And if it related to a public facing post, for example, were causing no issue other than not

00:45:18.520 meeting her personal preference, she wrote. She included details about an alleged incident of

00:45:23.280 sexual harassment at a Christmas event in Florida, writing, she was left alone in a car with a man who

00:45:28.120 made several inappropriate statements to me about his desire to enter into a relationship with me.

00:45:32.960 Voight said that when Rose was made aware of her situation, Rose told Voight,

00:45:36.660 we cannot prevent people saying things to you at public appearances. It is unfortunately

00:45:40.100 part of the role you're in as a public figure. Well, hello. The answer to that is obviously to

00:45:43.740 keep a chaperone with her. That would discourage any such behavior. Voight said she had been diagnosed

00:45:49.140 with anxiety for which she'd been prescribed medication. It sounds like it was rather unpleasant

00:45:53.140 for these young women. It would take a lot. It would take a lot, Britt, to get them to 0.73

00:45:57.900 renounce the roles. So the head of Miss Universe, which oversees Miss USA, that pageant,

00:46:04.420 that's the women person who's a trans person, a man pretending to be a woman.

00:46:09.060 The Miss Universe organization from now on is going to be ran by women, owned by a trans woman for all women. 0.64

00:46:31.380 For all women really around the world to celebrate the power of feminism.

00:46:36.020 All right. Well, good luck to these women, and they're welcome here to tell their story anytime. 0.92

00:46:41.880 And we'll even have Britt and Allie Beth back so they can feel supported and loved. Ladies, 1.00

00:46:45.880 thank you both so much for joining me today. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you again soon.

00:46:49.860 And to the audience, we'll be back tomorrow with someone who hates small talk as much as I do.

00:46:56.900 Charlemagne Tha God makes his first appearance on The Megyn Kelly Show. See you then.

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Diddy's Narcissistic Apology, and ＂Domestic Labor＂ in Marriage, with Allie Beth Stuckey and Britt Mayer ｜ Ep. 799

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