Diddy's Narcissistic Apology, and ＂Domestic Labor＂ in Marriage, with Allie Beth Stuckey and Britt Mayer ｜ Ep. 799
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After last year's Pride fiasco, Target is scaling back at least half of its stores selling Pride themed items. But is this a good or bad thing? And what will it mean for the LGBTQ+ community? Allie Beth Stuckey and Britt Mayer join host Meghan to discuss.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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Joining me now, two cultural commentators and moms fighting for their kids and all of ours.
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There's so much to get to, including more disturbing news about P. Diddy and news on Target's plans
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to reduce the number of stores selling Pride-themed merchandise after last year's Pride fiasco.
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We're almost to June. That's when this happens.
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Joining me now, Allie Beth Stuckey, host of Blaze TV's Relatable podcast, and Britt Mayer, founder of Rooted Wings.
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So, Britt, this feels like a personal win to you, I imagine, that Target's scaling back at least in half of its stores.
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We'd like to see this merchandise go away entirely, but is it true you haven't shopped at Target since last June?
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Can you believe that? I haven't. It's been painful a couple times.
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Like, twice, I've been like, oh, I just really need that new Magnolia thing.
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I haven't done it. No, I held on to my conviction on this because I was so mad after what they did last summer,
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and I just felt it was so blatant and disgusting that I was going to put my money where my mouth was,
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and I, yeah, I have not shopped. So, I'm happy to see that they are scaling back.
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I am going to take it as a win because it's a step forward.
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Obviously, I would like to see it completely gone, but hey, you know what?
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We work with what we can, and I do think that this is a big cultural victory to see them responding to consumers
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and saying it didn't work out so well last time, so we're going to take a step back.
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I have to say I'm still annoyed, Allie Beth. I feel like, eh, you know we're going to walk in
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in certain pockets of the country, and we're still going to see the Tuckett bathing suit
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Right. So, I have not shopped at Target since 2021, actually.
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Yes, I used to be the kind of person that would go to Target all the time, and you know what?
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I'm not the kind of person that says you have to boycott every single company that you disagree with
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in some way. My stance is that you just have to do what you can, and for me, the chest binder is like
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the tucking, especially marketed to children because I do think these things are marketed to adolescents.
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That was just too far for me. I don't care how many cute things Joanna Gaines or that McGee company
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sells at Target. I can find it elsewhere, and again, I don't have a perfect life of only buying
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at places that wholly align with my values, but for me, Target, we have a lot of buying power as
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suburban moms, and so I said, you know what? I'm done, and it's been a lot easier than I thought,
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and I'm going to keep going strong because you're right. I'm still annoyed by them, too.
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Yeah, and here's what they said. So right now, they're not backing down on their messaging at
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all. The spokesperson put out the following. Target is committed to supporting the LGBTQIA plus
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community. I don't even know what those last letters mean. It's so ridiculous. During Pride Month
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and year round. However, Britt, last year, Target's quarterly sales fell for the first time in six years
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during the Pride Month quarter because so many Americans were so outraged about the nonsense with
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the trans ideology being shoved in our faces as we went in there to get toilet paper, and at the time,
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Target said through an executive that there was a strong reaction to the Pride merchandise explaining
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the loss of sales, and the reaction was, quote, a signal for us to pause, adapt, and learn,
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and so what have they learned? I guess that they're still going to do it, but they'll do it in areas
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where we're not, what, media heavy, or we, I mean, you're probably going to get it in California.
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I'm sure I'll be getting it here in Connecticut. I'm like, it's going to be in my stores.
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I'm going to get it in my stores in Connecticut. I guess they're not going to put it in, like,
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Yeah. Oh, I totally agree. It's not good enough. For sure, it's not good enough,
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and until they get their, their marketing off of our kids with this agenda, then it's not good
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enough. I do think, though, the win is that they're taking a step back instead of a step forward. You
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know, they could have said, we're all in all over again and get ready. It's going to be bigger and
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better than last year, but no, money talks, and at the end of the day, if the money is not coming in,
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and if enough suburban moms are saying, we'll shop elsewhere, then I do think that sends a strong
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message. So my encouragement to American moms would be wait and see what it looks like in your
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Target shop, and if it's, you know, back to the same circus that it was last time, then hold out
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again. It's really not that hard. It's kind of like going sober. Like, once you get through the first
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few months, you're like, you know what? I feel great. I am saving money, and I feel really good.
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I also haven't been in Target in forever, but it's just because I don't, I don't generally go to
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Target. I don't, I'm not sure exactly where I go. I think I just feed Jeff Bezos and his wife,
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more money for non-existent dresses. I think that's kind of what I'm doing. That's how we
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get our toilet paper and our massive, you know, whatever. Anyway, I don't care about them, but I'm
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going to, I'm actually going to do the opposite this year, ladies. I want to make a point of going
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into the Target just to see if they have it, and then I'm going to be really loud in person and
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through this microphone to, to call attention to it if I see it. Okay. I've, I got to talk to you
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about P Diddy. I haven't had the chance to address this since it broke. Um, I wasn't on the
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air on Friday and that's when it hit on CNN and this tape of him beating his then girlfriend,
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Cassie is about the most disturbing thing I've seen in a couple of years, other than that horrific
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child torture videos that sometimes pop up on X. Um, for those of you who haven't seen it,
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I think we have it. And, um, this happened in March 5th, 2016. Yeah, we do. It was from the
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Hotel Intercontinental in LA. It is disturbing. And here it is. It's Diddy versus Cassie,
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his girlfriend walking down the hall. You can see she's grabbed things. He's running in
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a towel only after running. Clearly he catches up with her. He grabs her by the back of the
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head, shoves her to the ground. He kicks her hard, grabs her stuff. Cause he wants to get
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her out of there, kicks her again and seems to pull her by her hair or head out of there,
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out of the view of the camera. And we ultimately know, according to her lawsuit, at least he took
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her back to the hotel room where she claims he hid her for days. So people couldn't see the bruises
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and that this was not a one-time thing. I, I mean, ladies, I, he's a disgusting pig. He's a
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monster. He's a criminal. He belongs in jail. And I believe every word she wrote in that lawsuit,
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every word. We did a show just one week ago today, last Wednesday with a lawyer, uh, who works for
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long crime where we outlined all the allegations against him. And like you would do as any good
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journalist, we inserted a hefty amount of skepticism. We don't know the lawyer who represents a lot of
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these plaintiffs has been chastised by, for, by the bar for, or by, by the judge for being a little
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too salacious in the allegations. You know what? Because they're true. At least this one was true.
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And this man's career is over. I mean, you tell me, but this to me is an example of what enormous
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money and fame can do to corrupt, not just those around you, but an entire industry. Because
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Brit, the intercontinental took $50,000 from Diddy reportedly to hide that tape. He went to them
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knowing he was on camera. He paid them 50 grand. And why didn't they run to the cops instead of taking
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the $50,000? You, there's going to be a litany of people who know the truth about him, who saw things
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like this over and over, who covered up for him. He's guilty, but he's not the only one.
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Yeah. He's a total animal. That's animal beast behavior. And I was reading too, on the story
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that apparently after she left the hotel, she came back and the hotel said, just get back in
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the taxi. We saw, we saw what happened. It's like, how is this all just now coming out that everyone
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was running cover for him? But the reality is that humans make very bad gods. And when we elevate
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people to these positions where they are totally detached from objective right and wrong, and
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they're just idolized, like this is what happens, you know, and then they can protect their, their
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godness with money and they just become demons. I mean, it is demonic. That video for people who
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didn't get to see it, it is so disturbing. And it reminds me of that same feeling I got seeing those
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videos from the October 7th, um, with, with the girls, you know, being pulled into just treated like
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chattel. And, um, that's what happens when people are so unhitched from what is righteous and what
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is good that they make themselves gods and human gods behave like demons. And I hope that his career
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is completely over and that he loses his hold of idolatry. Um, because it was, there is zero
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justification for what he did and he denied it at first. And now he's coming out all these years
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later with like this half half-assed apology, you know, no, no, it was wicked beyond words. And,
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um, yeah, I hope it was, it was wicked. That was animal-like behavior. And Allie Beth,
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his apology is nothing, nothing like a real apology. We'll play part of it. Here he is.
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Now, after he was caught, after someone leaked the tape to CNN first, Brit's right. He smeared Cassie
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when she made an allegation of this exact thing in her complaint. He denied it, said she was a liar
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and said it was all a money grab. Um, and here he is now after he's caught with his quote unquote
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apology. It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in your life. Sometimes you got to do that.
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I was fucked up. I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses. My behavior on that video
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is inexcusable. I take full responsibility for my actions in that video. I'm disgusted.
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I was disgusted. Then when I did it, I'm disgusted. Now
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Oh, right. Sure. When with whom exactly? Let's have a name. Let's see the dates. It's a lie. I
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don't believe one word of that. According to these multiple lawsuits, Allie Beth, he's been doing this
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to multiple people, male and female for years. Typical narcissistic apology, quote unquote,
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apology. I, I, me, me. It was such a dark time, almost painting himself as a victim. Like he was
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just a victim of the darkness in his mind. He was a victim of his circumstances. He said that he was
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disgusted with his behavior. Then as it was happening, not disgusting enough to take your
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hands off of her, not disgusted enough at your behavior to stop abusing her and kicking her and
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pulling her down the hallway. You were not disgusted with your behavior. I'm sorry. I don't
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buy that. He's disgusted with his behavior. Now this is not a repentant person. And it really does
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disgust me the network of people that were required to hide something like this. Even when she tried to
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speak up, it took not just P. Diddy, but all of the people around him, so many different touch
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points, so many different people who had the opportunity to say, yeah, I saw that too, who
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were silenced by intimidation, silenced by his power, silenced by money. Who knows? But I'm thankful
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now. I'm thankful now that we have the footage of this horrifying incident. And I'm thankful that
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her testimony is being validated. There, the complaints, we just went through them, as I said last
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week. So I had the refresh on the mind, but there are allegations, including the following, and I
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should state for the record, he denies all of them. Also for the record, he denied that he beat her in
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a hotel. Um, there is an allegation that she at one point exchanged some sort of emojis with, uh, the
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rapper, uh, what is it? Our cutie forget, forgive me. I can't remember his name, uh, kid cutie. That's
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what it is. And, um, that did, he said, I'm going to light his car, a car on fire. I'm going to,
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I'm going to set his car on fire and set a bomb in his car. And I'm sure totally coincidentally
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that that guy had a bomb in his car, his car blew up soon thereafter. Kid cutie, uh, I guess it's
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cutie, not cutie, whatever it is. Um, there there's allegation after allegation of the serial,
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uh, intoxication of women against their will drugging of women, lacing bottles of alcohol
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with, uh, some sort of drug that was not disclosed to the women and then forcing them to while
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intoxicated and completely drugged out to engage in sex acts with sex workers who they did not
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consent to be with or know were coming in, not to mention violence, beating up rape, manhandling
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that she tried to leave him. She met him in a public place as an allegation that he denies
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to tell him, I don't, I don't want to be in your life at all anymore. And that as soon as she went
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back home, he pushed his way in and raped her. Is it hard to believe at all seeing that tape? Not
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even a little. And so you're right, Brit, because what happens is did he, I never paid much attention
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to the guy, but he's huge. He's got, he's got more money than God. He's enormously successful
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and his tentacles. Like a couple of years ago, he released a video for his 50th birthday of all
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these names. It recirculated recently because the dopes on Tik TOK were like, those are all the
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people he's going to bring down. Right? Those are the people in on his sex ring. Oprah. Okay. Oh,
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you can have your issues with Oprah. She's not part of a sex ring. Um, it wasn't, it was people who
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attended his 50th birthday and it was a who's who of American celebrity and beyond party with Prince
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Harry. Um, you want to tell me those parties were like a party that the three of us would throw for
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one another, right? That we would attend that we bring our girlfriends to no, they, these people
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saw a level of debauchery. I don't know if it was that bad, but a level of treatment and debauchery
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behavior that they knew was wrong. And as close as the closer you get to him, the more actual in on
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it, you're likely to find that a lot of people are going to go down here. Yeah. I wonder why people
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feel the need to protect. And maybe that is, that's just the power, right? Like it's the money
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and the power and the God likeness of these people that we elevate into these positions. But it is wild
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to think so many had to have known what he was up to and that he was no good garbage, that he was a
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horrible, horrible human being, a worthless guy. And they kept him elevated. And that's, uh, I mean,
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it's an indictment on our culture. It's an indictment on entertainment and these people that we have set
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into positions that our kids watch and they are, you know, we glamorize these people and make them
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almost perfect. It's, um, it's just a sad state of our culture. All right. This leads me to weirdly,
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or maybe not, cause there's a connection. Um, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, who, according
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to multiple publications now, page six of the New York post, the daily mail may be splitting up,
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which that he's reportedly gotten another home that he's living in without her. And that Jennifer
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Garner, his ex is reportedly begging him to stay with JLo because she's been reportedly a stabilizing
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force in his life. Uh, who knows, you know, they're all planting articles at this point against each
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other in all likelihood. Um, and I have to say to me, Ali, Beth, this is another example of the worship
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of the almighty dollar and celebrity and this, you know, just fame, right? This false God of,
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to use Brit's term of fame. They go out there. These two, have they spent two minutes with each
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other? They've been all over the movies, the, the, the ads. Occasionally they get a picture of
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themselves on a yacht. Meanwhile, it seems from the tabloids that both of their children on both sides
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are having some real issues. And these two are too focused on their careers and themselves. This is my
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opinion to save their marriage, their wellbeing and their children's stable existence. Yeah. Yeah. And
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you know, obviously this is all just our opinion. I don't think any of us know them personally, but
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my assessment is that they kind of got swept up in the media excitement of them coming back together. I
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think people were excited that, Oh my gosh, it's so nostalgic. Early two thousands, late nineties, JLo
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and Ben, they're getting back together. It felt like we were kind of going back in time. And this
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is amazing. Maybe they got swept up in that because everyone loves to be affirmed and applauded. They
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got together. Maybe they realized, you know what, there was a reason why we broke up in the first
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place. And this is still very unstable to me outside looking in, it looks turbulent. It looks volatile.
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It looks emotional. I guess maybe there's some attraction there. They like to go down memory lane,
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but it just doesn't look like a stable, solid relationship. Go ahead.
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I'm going to let you finish your theory. That's it. That's my, that's basically my theory. It's
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All right. So here's my theory on what, what's going on with these two. And it's just a theory.
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Uh, and no, I don't know them personally. She got together with him after a rod cheated on her.
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Remember this? He cheated with a reality TV star, even though he was with JLo and like that she was
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back with Ben Affleck pictured on the yacht like that. She was trying to change the narrative in
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the press. She didn't like JLo got cheated on. And of course the press to your point earlier,
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Ali Beth ran with it. Oh my God, Bennifer, they're back together. Yay. Memory lane. Here we go. We're
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on it. And the whole thing to me, and I said it on the time at the time on the air seemed very much
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to me like a PR maneuver that they were orchestrating the cameras. She orchestrates the cameras
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everywhere. She goes, let's face it. There are people who are far more famous than Jennifer Lopez
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who do not get pictured every week, going grocery shopping, going to the gym, going out to dinner.
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I mean, hello, Taylor Swift is probably the most famous woman in the world. We don't see that of
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her. We don't see it of Julia Roberts. We don't see it of a lot of these Hollywood stars, but we
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see JLo. And by the way, to look at the music industry, Dua Lipa, all these, like all of them,
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they're way more famous than she is now, but we don't see it. Why? Because they're not calling the
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paparazzi at every turn saying, please get me, please publish me, please look at me, please give me PR
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because I'm nothing without attention. And according to these reports in the tabloids, these two
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have a split over how much attention is enough attention. He doesn't want as much and she wants
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a never ending amount. There was a quote, I think of the Daily Mail of him saying, you know, I realized
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it's kind of like saying to a fish or to a boat captain, okay, I'll marry you, but I don't really
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like all the water and how this is an impossibility for the other person. So that's a quote by him,
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you know, reportedly they're denying that they're even having marital problems for the record.
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I don't believe that. So to me, this whole thing is an example of the wrong priorities.
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It's fine to have a career. It's great to have a career, but chasing money, chasing fame,
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chasing attention from strangers is not the way to a happy life, a happy marriage, a happy parent-child
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relationship, or just a happy and healthy heart and soul. That's what I see, Britt.
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Yeah. You know, I'm laughing because as you were sharing your thoughts, I could only picture
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Meghan Markle and Harry. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I think that what's sad is some of
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these people, they live for the hit, right? They live for the story and for always being in the news
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and always being the headline. It's the same spirit of they had, they, their little engine in order to
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go needs the fame. Um, it's the same. They should be friends. I don't know. To me, it's just so
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disheartening because you, you see the media go along with it. Like, yeah, they're great. And then
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when we see these problems with their kids, you're like, that's great too. No problem. And there's no
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article, uh, for example, on what divorce multiple divorces in both of their cases due to children.
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Nothing, Ali Beth, that will not get covered by the fawning media.
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No, of course, because we keep perpetuating this myth. I mean, the progressive mainstream,
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of course, the media is a part of that, that any type of family, no matter how fragmented,
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no matter how turbulent is completely fine, that the child is somehow unaffected by it. As long as they
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have some attachment somewhere, as long as they have some adults that love them somewhere,
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they'll be fine. When all of the social science data has been telling us for 50 years that kids
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benefit from intact marriages and an intact family. But in this, like to use kind of some terminology
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that we've been using in this conversation, this like God of self mentality, uh, that we have in our
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culture that you sacrifice everything, everyone else's needs and wellbeing on the altar of your
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wants. We get a lot of glorified and trendy narcissism and selfishness that is cast as
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self-love and self-discovery and self-fulfillment. No, it's just selfishness. And you're allowing other
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people, namely children to suffer from that. And I agree. That's a really sad part of the story.
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Yeah. This, this is the entry point. I think this is the proper entry point into the Harrison
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Butker comments at this graduation event taken, you know, out of context in a vacuum. I will grant
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he sounds like he is not so pro working wife and mother. Um, but you have to understand, I think,
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and listening to him, it's a counter-cultural response. He's trying to re rehabilitate
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a possibility for women that gets dumped on universally in the mainstream media. That's,
00:24:02.900
I think the context behind this guy's remarks again, which will go ignored in all the reporting
00:24:08.120
and has on what he said. So he's the kicker for the Kansas city chiefs. And he gave a commencement
00:24:14.200
address to a Catholic university and has been getting excoriated. There are still today pushes
00:24:21.100
and a petition with tens of thousands of names on it to have him fired. There is a real push to
00:24:26.900
get him fired from the chiefs for comments. He made not in his uniform, not while representing the
00:24:31.260
chiefs, uh, at this Catholic university newsflash Catholics have certain beliefs. Uh, maybe you
00:24:37.400
didn't Google them, you know, before you decided to pass your judgment, but here's in part how he got
00:24:42.980
himself in hot water. So 35, I want to speak directly to you briefly, because I think it is
00:24:49.620
you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here
00:24:54.980
now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going
00:24:59.900
to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would
00:25:04.780
venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you
00:25:09.860
will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel would be the first to say
00:25:15.220
that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.
00:25:22.500
He went on to add, it can't be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met
00:25:27.240
in band class and here he got teary back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife
00:25:32.360
and embrace one of the most important titles of all homemaker. Now this has led to a full meltdown
00:25:38.300
on the left. The Today Show, oh, they were horrified. Maria Shriver with a whole rebuttal.
00:25:46.020
I mean, and like the left-wing TikTokers are very upset, Brit, about him telling graduates as of that
00:25:54.240
day, female graduates, you know, what I just said. The best role is homemaker and you've been sold a bill
00:26:03.520
of goods about, you know, what a career would look like and motherhood might be okay for you. That's
00:26:09.400
their take on what he said. What do you think? Well, you're right. When you isolate comments out
00:26:14.540
of context, you can make it whatever you want it to be. And that's clearly what they're doing.
00:26:18.540
What he spoke is an assault on our modern day narrative that you, in order to be something in
00:26:26.400
society, you have to go put on the girl boss shorts and leave your kids at home. And that's going to
00:26:33.440
make you a real woman. And it's been the pervasive lie, the feminist movement fed us for a very long
00:26:39.200
time. But in it, what that lie did was it said, if you pursue anything other than that, you're less
00:26:45.200
than worthy. You would just, you'd want to be a mom. You'd want to take on that menial job, really.
00:26:51.240
So I wholeheartedly stand with, with Butker. I think what he spoke in full context was so
00:26:59.140
beautiful and so grounded in truth and traditional Christian. And that's why they hate it because it's
00:27:05.680
such an assault on the modern lies. But I would encourage young women everywhere who heard that
00:27:11.840
speech and are caught up in this, like he said, she said right now to dream with all your heart of
00:27:17.860
the beauty and glory of being a mom. I have achieved so much in my life. And I've held roles,
00:27:24.880
you know, when I was Miss California and first runner up at Miss USA, and I had tremendous
00:27:28.800
opportunities presented to me. I've lived that. And I can tell you, it all pales collectively
00:27:35.460
when I compare it to my role as a wife to my teenage sweetheart and a mom to my two beautiful kids.
00:27:44.140
All of that pales. So I wholeheartedly agree with what he spoke. And I think it's a worthy thing
00:27:50.560
for young women to hear that there is value in being a mom in our modern day.
00:27:56.680
Allie Beth, you're a working mom. You know, you've got it all. You're doing a show and you've got
00:28:00.760
young kids. What did you think of it? And you're a Christian.
00:28:04.960
Yes. And you know what? I'm not a Catholic. And there were plenty of things that I probably
00:28:09.360
didn't agree with in what he said. But here's what I don't understand is that other people who
00:28:16.320
disagreed with him a lot more fundamentally than I did, because I agreed with the spirit of everything
00:28:20.720
he said, even if I would take issue with some sentences here or there. I don't understand the
00:28:28.380
absolute freak out and meltdown. I saw people, even women who might consider themselves conservative
00:28:33.800
saying, who is he to tell women what to do? We're tired of being bossed around. I'm like,
00:28:39.480
dude, he was giving a speech. As you said, at the Catholic university, he was asked to speak there.
00:28:44.340
He wasn't talking to you. No one forced you to listen to him, to watch him. No one forced you to
00:28:49.700
weigh his words. He's not making you do anything. He is not going to walk into your cubicle and tell
00:28:54.480
you to get pregnant and make him a sandwich. He's not doing that. He has no power over your life.
00:28:59.320
He's sharing a perspective. You can say that you have a different perspective, but for you,
00:29:04.240
I think I saw this on The View, Sarah Haynes or whatever. She was like, oh, if these words are
00:29:09.260
oppressing other people and holding them back, then you're not really walking with Jesus. Lady,
00:29:14.880
he's saying words. He's saying words. You're going to be okay. He has no authority to tell you what to
00:29:21.720
do. He's sharing a traditionally Catholic perspective, and I say good for him. Let me tell you,
00:29:27.300
as a Catholic, when you get married in the Catholic church and you do pre-cana, the premarital
00:29:32.860
counseling with the priest, they make you say you're going to have children. You take a pledge
00:29:39.040
behind the scenes. Yes, I will have kids. And by the way, I've said before, I'm going through this
00:29:43.620
process of getting an annulment so that Doug and I can get married in a Catholic church.
00:29:47.440
And there too, one of the potential grounds for annulling your marriage is you weren't actually
00:29:52.500
committed to having children or he wasn't actually. I mean, it's a principle within Catholicism.
00:29:58.000
Him saying, don't forget to have the children is perfectly in line with what the Catholic church
00:30:03.640
teaches. So your point about this was a Catholic audience. He was asked to address them as fellow
00:30:09.920
Catholics. I guess that's just not allowed, but it does bother me. My audience knows, obviously,
00:30:18.080
I'm in favor of working women. Very much so. And, and I've done a lot of it myself, but I do hate
00:30:24.740
how any defense of the stay at home choice really does get sort of like, you're so provincial. Like
00:30:34.560
you're so cute. Okay. Like, like the secret underlying judgment seems to be women who stay at home
00:30:42.660
are kind of dumb. Like they couldn't make it. They just, they couldn't make it. And so it's good to
00:30:50.300
see somebody who famous and successful like that saying no, right on. It's an amazing choice. And
00:30:57.540
let me make you all feel great about it. Yes. Even though you just went to college and got a degree
00:31:03.060
and could easily just go right into the professional lane and completely eschew motherhood and being a
00:31:09.520
wife, like, let me validate it as a great option. If you choose to, to take it. Right. Yeah. I think
00:31:17.160
too, with all of this, one thing that really is in like the horizon of all of this is that we hear
00:31:24.300
live your truth, live your truth, be bold in your truth. But then as soon as that truth comes in
00:31:30.880
conflict with the narrative in caps, well, not that truth. And we're going to persecute you. And we're
00:31:36.280
going to make sure that you get fired from your job because we not that truth. You can only live
00:31:41.100
the truth that we approve of. And that's not the way it works. So that when you hear people say,
00:31:46.060
live your truth, that's a lie. They only want you to repeat the narrative that they approve of.
00:31:50.840
And anything short of that will be demonized and it will, they will assault it because that doesn't
00:31:56.520
work. It's not true. They want their narrative and only their narrative and nothing that comes in
00:32:01.340
conflict with that. So this actually is a good place to talk about what you're about to do,
00:32:06.820
Allie Beth, with the blaze on this. It's called Share the Arrows, an event that's coming up in
00:32:11.840
September. What is it? Yeah. Thank you so much. So this is an event bringing together Christian,
00:32:19.520
conservative women. You don't have to be Christian and conservative to come. You do have to be a woman
00:32:23.780
to come. But this is bringing together like-minded women who were looking at the state of the world,
00:32:29.540
the chaos, the confusion, the deceit that we see, how it's affecting us, how it's affecting our
00:32:34.820
children, how it's affecting women and girls specifically. And we're wondering what in the
00:32:39.760
world can we do? Not everyone has a platform like we three do. And they're wondering how can I as a
00:32:46.180
stay-at-home mom, as a wife, or maybe as an employee, as a company, at a company, as a teacher,
00:32:52.500
what can I do to push back against the darkness? What can I do to infuse clarity and courage in this
00:32:58.760
age of chaos and confusion? So that's what this event is about. We're going to have a few of the
00:33:06.200
leading Christian voices as speakers to speak into the chaos of gender ideology, of racial ideology,
00:33:14.180
all the progressive assault that we are seeing on our culture today, and what we can do to simply do
00:33:20.200
the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And the reason it's called
00:33:25.500
Share the Arrows, that's a term that we use a lot on my show. Whenever you see someone, and Megan,
00:33:30.140
you're so good at this, whenever you see someone who is taking some kind of heat, taking the arrows
00:33:35.640
from the mainstream, from the media, for standing up for a controversial position, rather than us
00:33:42.420
saying, ooh, I'm so glad that's not me. I'm glad that I'm not the one getting the arrows, and I'm going
00:33:47.240
to hide over here and pretend like I don't agree with them. No, no, no, no. Instead, we should be
00:33:51.900
standing up and saying, you know what you're reaming them for? I agree with her. That's me
00:33:56.680
too. So if you're going to throw the arrows at her, you're going to have to throw them my way too.
00:34:01.040
It's powerful. Courage is contagious. And when we all stand up together and say, whatever arrows
00:34:07.160
you're going to throw at her, you can send them my way. I think that's a really powerful force to be
00:34:12.760
reckoned with. I like that. I love that a lot. Britt, you should go to that, and then you guys should
00:34:17.620
come back on and we'll talk about what's happening. Oh, I'm planning on it. Yes. Y'all are invited.
00:34:21.020
September 28th, Dallas, Texas at a really big church here, and we have so far already exceeded
00:34:27.220
our expectations. So I'm very excited and really thankful. That's awesome. That's September 28th.
00:34:33.400
Steve Krakauer just reminded me that's the birthday of our show, 2020. So we'll be turning four
00:34:37.440
when you are celebrating that. I know, yay. So much happened in those four years. On the subject of
00:34:42.620
marriage, before we leave it, I do want to get to this. You hear this kind of stuff a lot from these
00:34:47.380
young women on TikTok where I don't go, but my staff does, and they know. I post on TikTok,
00:34:52.580
but it's not my thing. But I want my message out in front of the young people, so I have no problem
00:34:56.980
posting there until it is banned and no longer available in the United States. There's a mom
00:35:02.320
influencer, momfluencer, whatever. Her name is Paige Connell, and she had some thoughts on the
00:35:07.600
division of labor in a marriage. Listen to this.
00:35:12.420
Here's a list of things that I don't do for my husband. I don't do his laundry. He can do that
00:35:16.040
himself. I do my laundry, and we do the kids' laundry, but he does his own. I don't cook dinner.
00:35:21.660
He cooks dinner every single night. I do breakfast and lunch for us and our kids.
00:35:25.740
I don't pack him a lunch. If he's hungry, he'll figure out what he's going to eat for lunch the
00:35:29.060
same way that I do. I don't make his doctor's appointments because guess what? He's not making
00:35:33.640
mine. Would it be kind of me to do that? For sure. Is it my job? Absolutely not. Doing his laundry,
00:35:38.800
cooking him dinner, making him lunch, booking his doctor's appointments, all those things,
00:35:42.080
that's domestic labor. Do I do them occasionally when he's working a lot? Of course. It's not my
00:35:46.200
job as a wife. It is not in my job description to do all the domestic labor as small acts of
00:35:50.500
kindness to my partner and receive nothing in return. She seems fine, Allie Beth. What do you
00:35:54.900
think? Yeah, she's super annoying to me. Now, I don't think that you have to make your husband's
00:36:01.380
doctor's appointments in order to be qualified as a good wife and mom. I think you and your husband
00:36:05.980
can decide the division of labor. I think that that's fine. It is her attitude, her entitlement,
00:36:11.820
her posturing here that I'm not going to do that because that's domestic labor and I deserve to be
00:36:16.740
compensated for that. It's not enough for me just to do it out of grace and kindness for my husband.
00:36:21.560
That is the wrong attitude that I guarantee is a recipe for a power struggle and disaster down the
00:36:27.280
line. So it's not even necessarily that I take issue with what she and her husband decide that
00:36:32.480
they're going to do as far as chores, whatever. You can decide upon that. But this attitude,
00:36:39.080
I just found a really, really off-putting. I just like so much of the messaging from young
00:36:45.040
people these days, Britt, is like there's going to be like a contract agreement between the two of us
00:36:49.080
is going to be written down. This is how, I mean, there's a whole book that was very successful that
00:36:52.260
speaks to exactly this. I don't get it, right? Like in my marriage, we're just kind of organic. It's
00:36:57.460
like, I don't know how Doug got in charge of taking out the garbage and I'm not. It's just
00:37:02.560
cleverness and ignoring the job by me over many, many years. Like I don't have it more organically.
00:37:09.300
I don't get like this, the negotiation, like everything seems so point-driven, you know,
00:37:13.460
like, well, we're in competition with one another and like me doing more for you is somehow a loss for
00:37:20.420
me, even though you're the person or at least one of them, including my children, who I love more than
00:37:25.980
anyone else on this earth. How is this like a win-loss ratio? Yeah. I mean, what Allie said,
00:37:32.940
she annoys me. I went through her TikTok and every single one of her posts is like that.
00:37:38.080
I almost think that it's like a persona she's created. And that's like the whole social contagion
00:37:43.320
is it's like, you have to put on this act and really get those shares, you know? So you're going
00:37:47.720
to say something super controversial to get people to click it and share it because you want that fame.
00:37:52.800
That's what I get from her. I agree. My husband and I like are very much like you, Megan, where
00:37:58.680
stuff just happened organically. It wasn't like we drew out this contract of you're going to do this.
00:38:03.800
I'm going to do this. It just happened over the course of 15 years. Um, yes. And I do agree with
00:38:08.180
some of the things she said, like my husband does his own laundry because when we were dating,
00:38:12.340
he made it very clear that he didn't want me to shrink his stuff. So he just, he does his own
00:38:16.780
laundry and it's not any like, yeah, me, like I'm not going to take on that menial labor,
00:38:21.840
but that's what she made it into. And I think that's what Allie was saying that I agree with.
00:38:26.120
It's the spirit behind it. It's the spirit of this weird competition. And I think it's also the
00:38:31.620
social contagion of you're going to post something to get people talking, you know, right. I I'm like,
00:38:37.620
can you imagine like what life is like between the sheets for these two? Like I was just on top for
00:38:42.780
five minutes. Now I want you on top. No, it's, it's, it's unequal. No, come on. It's got to be
00:38:47.960
perfectly even. You went there. You went there. Honestly, like I had two orgasms. You have to have
00:38:52.800
two orgasms. What, what kind of a weird relationship is this? I'm going to write it down to my little
00:38:57.160
tally. It makes you think I have six brothers. I would never set them up with someone like her.
00:39:03.420
No, no, heck no, no. God, no. That's a problem. She doesn't realize how unattractive she's making
00:39:08.840
herself. And I guarantee that the husband is not a manly man. That was another thing that Harrison
00:39:13.620
Bucker was right about. In fact, let me play that soundbite. It's not 36. To the gentlemen here
00:39:17.840
today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not
00:39:22.860
necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is
00:39:29.060
absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large
00:39:35.680
role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same
00:39:40.580
absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S. And a correlation could be made in their drastically
00:39:45.820
lower violence rates as well. Be unapologetic in your masculinity, fighting against the cultural
00:39:52.040
emasculation of men. Do hard things. Never settle for what is easy. Amen, Alliebeth.
00:39:58.300
So good. Masculinity, like all different forms of strength, can be wielded both for good and for
00:40:05.120
evil. The same masculinity that can be used in negative aggression, used in a way to intimidate
00:40:13.080
women like we saw with P. Diddy, is also the kind of masculinity that builds civilizations and that
00:40:18.680
protects virtue and protects the most vulnerable. And so all this talk about toxic masculinity, you forget
00:40:25.920
how necessary masculinity is for the flourishing, for the survival of families, of communities,
00:40:32.180
of societies. And so I'm really glad to hear him say that because he's absolutely right.
00:40:37.140
All right. Last question. I've got to ask you about this, Britt. Something weird
00:40:40.580
is going on with the Miss USA and Miss Team USA, both of whom have just resigned within the span of a
00:40:50.620
couple of weeks of one another. You were Miss USA first runner-up. You were Miss California.
00:40:57.500
So the first gal, Miss USA resigned, Noella Voigt. And she said it was about her mental health. That's
00:41:06.460
why she was piecing out of the contest or the role, not the contest. She already won. And then people
00:41:12.700
noticed that in her post, the first letter in each sentence of her statement revealed the phrase,
00:41:18.060
I am silenced. And then the Team USA, Umsofia Sravastava. I don't have it. Sravastava. She resigned.
00:41:33.780
Sravastava. Sorry. Forgive me, Umsofia. She resigned saying, okay, I'll look back on this time fondly.
00:41:41.740
It was fulfilling, but my personal values no longer fully align with the direction of the organization.
00:41:45.700
Then their moms, not them because they're under NDAs, going on GMA and also sounded rather cryptic,
00:41:53.940
but here's what they said. Fans online noticed immediately when Noelia posted her resignation
00:41:59.580
online that the sentences seem to start with letters that spelled out, I am silenced.
00:42:07.180
I don't feel comfortable answering that question.
00:42:10.780
She is and she would be the rest of her life if this NDA is not being left. The girls need to speak.
00:42:20.020
So I want to be clear. It's not about what they didn't get about the prizes. It's about how they
00:42:25.900
were ill-treated, abused, bullied, and cornered. Look at what happened to Noelia, Umsofia.
00:42:32.560
So really pay attention. We don't want them to go through this right now. It's not the right time
00:42:42.380
So you think that young women should essentially stop participating in these types of pageants?
00:42:47.560
Absolutely. We just don't want these families and these girls to go through what we're going through.
00:42:55.080
Well, I think I should remind people that these are the first title holders under the
00:43:01.900
women. Remember the women? The new transgender director. Remember? Like the women, I make a
00:43:09.980
pageant for women. And we're like, yeah, you can't even say women. So these are the first title holders
00:43:16.240
under him. And when you have someone at the top who is clearly unwell, who is clearly mentally
00:43:22.260
off. And he's in responsible for all these young women who are very impressionable. And when I
00:43:29.840
competed in the Miss USA system, man, they like, they go after every little bit of you that's not
00:43:36.000
perfect to make it perfect. And there's a lot of stuff that's very questionable. I was actually,
00:43:41.960
Donald Trump was my boss when I was in the Miss USA system because it was his organization then.
00:43:46.760
But my direct director was a man who had been married, who then became gay. And there were real
00:43:52.960
weird things that happened in dressing rooms with him, like measuring my body and stuff that you just
00:43:58.980
kind of like are doe eyed, you know, because you're young and you don't know any different. You're thrown
00:44:03.860
into this. But I can only imagine with a direct, like they have now running the circus, what's going on.
00:44:11.600
Clearly there's stuff that's really wrong. And my heart goes out to those girls because I know it was
00:44:16.680
probably terrifying for them to leave their titles after hitting that high. It says a lot that
00:44:23.180
something went really, really bad, but I can't say I'm shocked. I can't say I'm surprised.
00:44:28.480
All we know so far is that the Miss USA, Noella Voight, she resigned in a letter and the letter
00:44:36.760
was reported. It was the New York Times and NBC who obtained a copy of it. And she writes as follows,
00:44:44.100
in part, there is a toxic work environment within the Miss USA organization that at best is poor
00:44:49.980
management and at worst is bullying and harassment. Went on to say Miss USA CEO and President Layla
00:44:57.160
Rose consistently failed to communicate. And that when she did, she was often cold and unnecessarily
00:45:04.120
aggressive. It's incredibly jarring to try to do my job and constantly be threatened with disciplinary
00:45:09.800
action, including taking away my salary for things that were never discussed with me.
00:45:13.760
And if it related to a public facing post, for example, were causing no issue other than not
00:45:18.520
meeting her personal preference, she wrote. She included details about an alleged incident of
00:45:23.280
sexual harassment at a Christmas event in Florida, writing, she was left alone in a car with a man who
00:45:28.120
made several inappropriate statements to me about his desire to enter into a relationship with me.
00:45:32.960
Voight said that when Rose was made aware of her situation, Rose told Voight,
00:45:36.660
we cannot prevent people saying things to you at public appearances. It is unfortunately
00:45:40.100
part of the role you're in as a public figure. Well, hello. The answer to that is obviously to
00:45:43.740
keep a chaperone with her. That would discourage any such behavior. Voight said she had been diagnosed
00:45:49.140
with anxiety for which she'd been prescribed medication. It sounds like it was rather unpleasant
00:45:53.140
for these young women. It would take a lot. It would take a lot, Britt, to get them to
00:45:57.900
renounce the roles. So the head of Miss Universe, which oversees Miss USA, that pageant,
00:46:04.420
that's the women person who's a trans person, a man pretending to be a woman.
00:46:09.060
The Miss Universe organization from now on is going to be ran by women, owned by a trans woman for all women.
00:46:31.380
For all women really around the world to celebrate the power of feminism.
00:46:36.020
All right. Well, good luck to these women, and they're welcome here to tell their story anytime.
00:46:41.880
And we'll even have Britt and Allie Beth back so they can feel supported and loved. Ladies,
00:46:45.880
thank you both so much for joining me today. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you again soon.
00:46:49.860
And to the audience, we'll be back tomorrow with someone who hates small talk as much as I do.
00:46:56.900
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