The Megyn Kelly Show - Disgusting Pro-Hamas Displays, and COVID Vaccine Consequences, with Konstantin Kisin and ＂Shot Dead＂ Documentary Director

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.280 Since we last spoke on Friday, it really feels like our world, our sense of humanity is being torn apart city by city, day after day.

00:00:23.820 I'm distracted by my dog.

00:00:25.960 No, it's okay. They can stay. Stradwick and Thunder are in here.

00:00:28.820 And well, Stradwick's fat now and he breathes heavily. So I apologize for the distraction.

00:00:36.380 But sadly, I felt this myself. We went to Chicago. I mentioned this at the end of Friday's show.

00:00:40.880 I went to Chicago and I met with two of my best friends. We do a girl's trip every year.

00:00:46.360 And a couple of things that we cover in the news were there. First of all, the rise in crime and homelessness.

00:00:51.280 You could see it on a city, in a city that used to be absolutely pristine.

00:00:55.920 You could eat off the streets of Chicago when I lived back there, back in the mid-1990s and then again in the 2000s.

00:01:04.180 And very different now. Very different situation.

00:01:07.740 And then secondly, we saw, oh, they do have to go there. Sorry.

00:01:11.320 They're playing and they're biting each other.

00:01:13.420 I tried, guys.

00:01:14.420 And then secondly, the Students for Justice for Palestine crowd was out there in droves.

00:01:22.200 I mean, droves.

00:01:23.840 Marching through the streets, chanting loudly, waving their pro-Palestinian flags and so on.

00:01:29.820 I mean, we've seen city after city after city, domestically and abroad, where we've witnessed a wave of anti-Semitism.

00:01:35.640 That shocks the conscience.

00:01:37.800 The amount of incoming can feel overwhelming, right?

00:01:40.640 It's like, who knew that there was this level of anti-Semitism everywhere?

00:01:46.820 So we're going to break it down to two of the biggest demonstrations that we saw over the weekend, including in New York City.

00:01:52.520 New York City's got more Jews in it than any city, any place outside of Israel.

00:01:57.500 And yet, you wouldn't know that to look at the protests.

00:02:00.480 My God.

00:02:01.640 Friday night, New York, a protest to, quote, flood Manhattan for Gaza.

00:02:06.240 It started at Columbus Circle near Central Park.

00:02:09.160 There, the crowd had this message for an upset supporter of Israel as she sought comfort from police.

00:02:15.320 Listen to this.

00:02:27.500 Get that?

00:02:29.600 Cry, bitch, cry.

00:02:31.000 She was upset.

00:02:31.960 She was getting harassed.

00:02:33.380 And their response was, cry, bitch, cry.

00:02:35.420 Nice.

00:02:36.060 Sweet.

00:02:37.040 From there, protesters marched to the New York Times building in Midtown, vandalizing it with fake blood.

00:02:44.320 You remember we told you about the weird sit-in they were having in the lobby there on Friday.

00:02:48.480 And they decided it might be fun to curse at a Daily News reporter outside of the building.

00:02:52.260 It seems like a nice group, doesn't it?

00:03:07.220 No one, and nothing, it would seem, was safe from their fury.

00:03:12.160 Not the baristas at Starbucks, who were told, you make drinks for genocide.

00:03:17.640 Oh, wow.

00:03:20.020 Okay.

00:03:20.300 Not what we signed up for, I'm sure they thought.

00:03:23.060 Not the Israeli flag, which, of course, was burned.

00:03:26.680 One chant heard Friday night, it is right to rebel Israel, go to hell.

00:03:31.340 Now, I appreciate the rhyme and the beat of the rhyme, because in some of these protests, they've been less than clever.

00:03:38.980 I appreciate that they got the, just the right pentameter as they, okay, I'm sorry, but you have to mock these people.

00:03:46.460 Like, who sits around, we've got to come up with just the perfect rhyme so that we can condemn the Jews and call for them to die.

00:03:53.320 Israel can go to, it is right, it is right to protest.

00:03:56.840 No, it is right to rebel.

00:03:58.040 Yes, Israel can go to hell.

00:03:59.320 Yes, let's do it.

00:04:00.720 Remember the moron high schooler who had to write his two-liner down on a placard so that he could remember it?

00:04:06.280 He was reading his little, we're not dealing with the smartest crowd.

00:04:09.500 That's the truth.

00:04:11.000 And, of course, the American flag was not off-limits, too.

00:04:13.300 They love to burn that, too.

00:04:15.120 And to take it down in favor of the Palestinian flag, that's lovely to watch.

00:04:20.080 Much to the jubilation of the crowd, this is back in New York, who stood near a sign that reads, UN Way.

00:04:28.400 Take a look.

00:04:28.900 There goes the American flag, for those of you listening, pulling it down.

00:04:38.500 And again.

00:04:39.880 And another one.

00:04:44.640 And the crowd is cheering.

00:04:48.060 Look at them.

00:04:49.720 Is that Megan Rapinoe?

00:04:52.480 Screw them.

00:04:53.300 You don't like America?

00:04:54.320 Get out.

00:04:55.740 Get out.

00:04:57.120 We don't want you here either.

00:04:58.900 You don't want to be here?

00:05:00.160 We don't want you.

00:05:00.840 It's perfect.

00:05:01.520 Go home.

00:05:03.360 Honestly, like these, half these people are chanting in Arabic about this country that they've clearly chosen, but it's not good enough for them.

00:05:12.460 Get out.

00:05:13.880 We don't need you here.

00:05:16.340 If all this is not enough, the protesters also forced New York City's Grand Central train station to shut down.

00:05:23.420 Now it's on.

00:05:24.960 You want to pull down flags?

00:05:26.540 Pisses us off, but whatever.

00:05:27.800 You want to shut down Grand Central and stop people from getting home on time?

00:05:31.680 It's on.

00:05:33.120 Watch as they kick the doors while cops are locked inside.

00:05:36.920 Look at these people.

00:05:50.820 Look at them.

00:05:52.800 What?

00:05:53.980 Only a few were even arrested.

00:05:55.980 Why?

00:05:56.900 Why?

00:05:57.220 Anti-Israel protesters also took to the streets across the globe over the weekend.

00:06:02.380 Cape Town, Barcelona, Brussels, just to name a few.

00:06:05.580 London seeing its biggest rally since the war began.

00:06:08.340 The biggest anti-Israel rally since the war began.

00:06:12.360 Taking place on the very weekend that Britain honors its war dead.

00:06:17.100 Leaders had asked them not to protest on such a solemn day.

00:06:20.340 You won't be surprised to learn they didn't give a shit and did it anyway.

00:06:24.780 An estimated 300,000 taking to the streets of the British capital.

00:06:29.140 Well, here's an interesting fun fact for you.

00:06:31.280 This same group, these pro-Hamas protesters, they said, oh, we had 850,000.

00:06:37.720 The cops said you had 300,000.

00:06:39.420 So there too, here and in Palestine, they like to overstate the numbers.

00:06:43.700 Seeing a pattern.

00:06:45.200 There they are, all around the British capital.

00:06:47.460 Organizers, again, trying to tell us, oh, we had almost a million.

00:06:50.700 Okay.

00:06:50.920 Police are now trying to identify a number of them for hate crimes and abuse.

00:06:56.500 In one video, a woman yells this.

00:07:02.160 Killers!

00:07:03.420 Death to all the Jews!

00:07:07.000 That was killers.

00:07:11.740 Death to all the Jews.

00:07:13.820 If you could say it in a way that was more clear and didn't require such translation,

00:07:17.480 it would be far more effective.

00:07:18.680 You work on that.

00:07:19.680 You work on that.

00:07:20.320 If you could make your Jewish death threats absolutely clear, I think you might reach

00:07:24.620 more people.

00:07:25.380 Or just say it in your native language.

00:07:27.540 Those are the people you're trying to convince anyway.

00:07:30.100 Police also wanted to find, or want currently to find two men pictured here wearing what

00:07:34.880 appears to be Hamas-style headbands.

00:07:38.700 And then there's the woman carrying a sign that shows the Jewish Star of David wrapped around

00:07:44.560 a Nazi swastika with the slogan, no British politician should be a friend of Israel.

00:07:50.320 Got it?

00:07:51.620 Don't you dare support the Jews who were attacked by the terrorists.

00:07:56.160 Now, there were some counter-protests.

00:08:02.720 Stand by.

00:08:03.720 I'm going to show you.

00:08:04.340 Okay, they're walking for a listening audience.

00:08:09.320 One man attacked for holding up a sign.

00:08:12.680 You see, he was holding up a sign that equated Hamas with ISIS.

00:08:16.120 And what happened when he held up that sign?

00:08:17.940 They attacked him.

00:08:19.480 They attacked him.

00:08:20.380 Take a look at that.

00:08:22.960 Chance of England till I die also heard among the counter-protesters.

00:08:27.100 And the media also really, really wanted you to know that there were, quote, far-right

00:08:32.720 protesters among the counter-protesters who battled with police.

00:08:37.960 In one tense scene, a protester was seen shouting in officers' faces, the crowd telling the police,

00:08:44.020 you're not English anymore.

00:08:46.020 Watch.

00:08:48.700 You're not English anymore.

00:08:51.700 You're English.

00:08:54.700 You're English.

00:08:56.900 You're English.

00:08:57.320 You're English.

00:08:58.900 Okay.

00:08:59.340 Okay, so it's like a group of ragtag people out there giving the police a hard time.

00:09:03.980 The police, as you may remember, have been tearing down the hostage posters.

00:09:07.900 They say they're disruptive.

00:09:09.320 So the police themselves have been tearing down posters of the missing, kidnapped hostages.

00:09:15.880 There's some animosity growing against them.

00:09:18.880 The police say that they arrested more than 100 people, the majority of whom were right-wing

00:09:23.480 protesters.

00:09:24.340 I'm sure.

00:09:25.220 I'm sure they were.

00:09:26.020 And yet, across the English Channel, for Jews, there was a glimmer of light from the

00:09:32.740 city of life, light in Paris.

00:09:34.900 More than 100,000 people taking to the streets of Paris on Sunday to march against anti-Semitism.

00:09:40.740 Good for them.

00:09:41.520 Look at this.

00:09:42.380 Finally.

00:09:43.400 I know.

00:09:44.160 Some of my audience wrote in and said, you know what?

00:09:46.840 Jews have been persecuted for 2,000 years.

00:09:49.280 That's why they don't, their instincts are not rushed to the streets and make a spectacle

00:09:55.280 out of yourself.

00:09:56.980 You know, they are under threat.

00:09:58.440 They're not really feeling too bold about going out into the streets right now, but

00:10:02.480 they did it.

00:10:03.400 And God bless.

00:10:04.380 Do it.

00:10:05.020 Do more of it.

00:10:05.980 There's safety in numbers there.

00:10:07.860 100,000 people on the streets of Paris.

00:10:09.520 God bless.

00:10:11.160 Joining me now, Constantin Kissin.

00:10:13.080 He's co-host of an amazing podcast, which I've mentioned a few times on the show, called

00:10:16.980 Triggernometry.

00:10:18.360 And the podcast is wonderful.

00:10:20.020 He's been doing it for a long time.

00:10:21.660 And Constantin is getting more and more attention.

00:10:23.340 He came on the show a year plus ago to talk about Ukraine, and he's been all over the Israel

00:10:29.380 conflict as well.

00:10:30.340 He's back today.

00:10:33.420 Constantin, good to see you.

00:10:34.520 Welcome back.

00:10:35.460 Megan, great to be with you.

00:10:36.460 Can you believe that, Open?

00:10:38.700 I mean, the amount of behavior, bad behavior happening at these pro-Palestinian protests,

00:10:46.260 attacking the guy with the pro-Israel sign, getting in the face of innocence, calling for

00:10:52.220 Jews to die, that one woman afraid, you know, calling her a bitch, cry, bitch, cry.

00:10:57.860 It's like, and then, of course, in the UK, you get a handful of counter-protesters who

00:11:03.220 have some tense exchanges with cops.

00:11:05.120 And the whole story is about the alt-right, the far-right protesters.

00:11:09.560 And then we'll get to, they just fired this well-known politician in the UK, and we'll

00:11:16.060 get to why.

00:11:16.660 But the UK, I mean, it's amazing because they're going even more the wrong way than we are here

00:11:22.080 in America.

00:11:22.520 But the two problems are exactly the same.

00:11:25.100 What do you make of it all?

00:11:26.600 Well, I'm so glad you played the clip from France, because I said, this is how you know

00:11:30.260 things have got really bad when British people are looking over at the French and thinking,

00:11:33.980 we like you, we envy you, we want more of what you have.

00:11:36.380 That is unusual for the situation here.

00:11:40.060 But you know what?

00:11:41.000 I'm sad to say, I'm not surprised.

00:11:42.500 I mean, what we have had since the October 7th attacks, people have forgotten this, but

00:11:47.600 actually, in the first two days after the terrorist attack happened, we had anti-Israel

00:11:54.340 protests, and I use inverted commas for people listening, on the streets.

00:11:57.860 And those were not anti-Israel protests.

00:11:59.700 Those were celebrations.

00:12:01.140 Those were celebrations.

00:12:01.940 There were people on the streets of this country and this city celebrating.

00:12:06.840 Mass murder and terrorist attacks.

00:12:09.000 Celebrating.

00:12:09.940 And what we have seen since, over the next few weeks, is the inevitable consequence of

00:12:14.800 the fact that the police simply, you know, you mentioned the politician who we'll get

00:12:19.320 to.

00:12:19.880 The reason she was forced to, the reason she was fired, actually, was that she dared,

00:12:25.780 she dared, Megan, to insinuate that the police are not policing even-handedly when it comes

00:12:31.080 to different groups.

00:12:31.880 And what we have seen over the last few weeks is that it's perfectly normal, for example,

00:12:37.380 for people in the pro-Palestinian marches to be chanting for jihad, to be chanting, rise

00:12:43.600 up, rise up, army of Mohammed, and all sorts of other genocidal slogans, effectively.

00:12:50.580 And they're not being policed.

00:12:51.940 And when the police are being confronted and asked, why don't you go in there and stop these

00:12:55.360 people doing these things, which are against the law in this country?

00:12:57.800 It's against the law to incite violence.

00:13:00.020 It's against the law to express support for terrorist organizations.

00:13:03.260 What the police say is, look, look, there's so many of them and there's so few of us.

00:13:07.380 However, when over the weekend, a few football supporters who are, you know, they are people

00:13:12.580 who like to go out and get drunk and have fights with the police.

00:13:15.780 But there was very few of them.

00:13:17.260 There were minor skirmishes between them and the police.

00:13:19.620 The police immediately found it within the powers to arrest a bunch of them.

00:13:23.500 And of course, the entire media establishment ran with the story that the far right, so-called

00:13:29.820 far right, were the ones causing the problem.

00:13:31.920 And the only question I have for these people is, why don't we look at what the definition

00:13:35.420 of far right is?

00:13:36.720 My definition of the far right and the definition that we've used historically, certainly in the

00:13:41.020 UK, is people who are racist, people who are prejudiced against other ethnic and religious

00:13:45.780 groups, people who are sexist and consider women second class citizens, people who incite

00:13:50.640 violence.

00:13:51.920 And to my mind, we have had the far right on the streets of Britain for five weeks and

00:13:57.060 the police have done absolutely nothing about it, which is why they are emboldened and they're

00:14:02.940 going to continue to do this.

00:14:05.420 So tell us about Suella Braverman and what happened there, because our pal Lawrence Fox has been

00:14:10.220 on the show recently, got booted from GB News for having a, you had him on too, a crass, but

00:14:16.380 in my mind, totally within the balance conversation in terms of getting terminated.

00:14:22.740 Anyway, he's been all over the news.

00:14:24.860 I like him a lot.

00:14:25.680 I know you do too.

00:14:26.340 And he's been tweeting a lot about Suella Braverman getting the boot.

00:14:29.940 She's home secretary.

00:14:31.240 What does that mean?

00:14:32.080 Why did she get fired?

00:14:33.520 It seemed rather easy to fire this woman who, as far as I can tell, didn't say much at

00:14:39.200 all and seems to be representing the views of at least half of Britain's.

00:14:43.200 Well, so home secretary means that she's in charge of things like immigration, security,

00:14:49.260 policing, and so on.

00:14:50.260 She's the person at the top of government responsible for all those things.

00:14:54.120 And what she said, as I mentioned earlier, Megan, is that the police are not being even

00:14:58.480 handed and they're policing different groups differently.

00:15:01.300 And shock, horror, everybody was very upset about this, even though we have seen the difference.

00:15:06.420 And I wrote on my sub stack today about this, that essentially we had during 2020, we had

00:15:11.940 the BLM marches, of course, where the police kneeled in front of protesters.

00:15:17.220 And then a few months later, we had anti-lockdown protesters where the police kneeled on protesters.

00:15:23.280 And that sort of mismatch in the way that the police approached different people has continued.

00:15:28.000 And frankly, at this point, what has become clear is the police will police vigorously and

00:15:33.820 violently people of whom there are not many, and they will avoid policing large groups of

00:15:38.960 people. And so you can tell quite clearly from that what sort of outcomes that incentivizes.

00:15:44.940 If you let large groups of people behave abominably, but you don't police them, they

00:15:50.320 will continue. And that's why I think we've got the situation that we have.

00:15:54.340 She had written an op-ed for the Times of London, criticizing the cops for letting these pro-Palestinian

00:16:02.160 marches go ahead, saying, as you point out, they had stopped far-right protests, but permitted

00:16:07.340 the pro-Palestinian, quote, mobs. And she was raising objections to it. And then the British

00:16:11.840 prime minister's office asked her to make changes to the op-ed. She apparently ignored them.

00:16:17.460 Then the article points out that I have in front of me, a YouGov survey for Sky News showed 50%

00:16:22.320 of Britons, thought the pro-Palestinian march plan for Armistice Day, the one that honored

00:16:26.800 World War I vets, should be banned. They did not want to see all these pro-Palestinian marchers

00:16:31.800 in the streets on a day where they're supposed to be thinking about the British war dead.

00:16:36.080 And she spoke out. And yet that was controversial. This is somebody who they don't like anyway,

00:16:43.400 because she's conservative. She supported Brexit. She's been called transphobic because she

00:16:48.380 doesn't think schools should have to accommodate requests about pronouns. And so now she's out

00:16:53.640 because she wrote things like this in that op-ed. I do not believe these marches are merely a cry for

00:17:00.220 help for Gaza. They are an assertion of primacy by certain groups, particularly Islamists.

00:17:07.620 Where is she wrong? What did she say that's even arguably wrong?

00:17:11.860 She is not wrong on anything. The only thing that she's wrong with is to assume that she was a member

00:17:16.060 of a conservative party. The prime minister of this country spends more time caring about what

00:17:21.140 the Guardian headline is going to be the next morning than he does about attempting to win

00:17:25.820 over the voters that voted. Well, actually, they didn't vote for him. They voted for a party that

00:17:30.180 he became prime minister of without a general election. And that's the situation that we're in.

00:17:36.400 I think what we have seen in the last day with her being fired is that the one politician in the

00:17:42.660 Conservative Party that was actually prepared to represent the views and values of most people

00:17:47.620 in the Conservative Party in this country has been fired in order to pander to people who are never

00:17:53.500 going to vote for that party in the first place. And so what you'll see when we have an election next

00:17:58.020 year is almost certainly a landslide for the Labour Party and for four years of that. So I think that

00:18:05.460 the reality is, is that she was trying to speak up for what is a silent majority in this country,

00:18:10.740 really. And she was, you know, too brave for her own party. And also, the media elite in this country

00:18:18.940 absolutely hates people like her. One of the reasons is, of course, Megan, we haven't touched on this yet,

00:18:23.060 but these issues are very connected is that she's one of the very few politicians in this country's had anything

00:18:29.220 to say and attempted to do anything at all about the issue of illegal immigration. And there's a direct

00:18:34.500 connection between those marches and illegal immigration. Because when you let in hundreds

00:18:39.320 of thousands of people from countries where there is rife antisemitism, whose cultural values do not

00:18:44.720 match your own, you end up with things like the things that we're seeing on the streets. And she

00:18:48.620 was attempting to tackle that. I believe on Wednesday, in a couple of days from now, those attempts are

00:18:54.960 going to come to a head in the courts. We're likely to see, I think, the Rwanda deal, which is the idea of

00:19:01.920 moving people to Rwanda who shouldn't be here, is probably going to be found to be illegal. And so

00:19:06.460 we're at an impasse. Essentially, we have an open border and no one is able to do anything about it.

00:19:11.060 She was one of the few people who tried. And that is one of the other reasons they hate her.

00:19:15.780 Yes, we covered this. She gave a speech at AEI. And she pointed out these people are coming in and

00:19:21.460 they're not assimilating. They are not. They don't actually want to be here. They don't want to be part of

00:19:26.960 our culture. They want to import their culture here. And for this, she was called a bigot. But

00:19:32.760 it was 100 percent true. We are seeing it in England. We're seeing it in France. We're seeing

00:19:38.560 it even in Germany. And we're definitely seeing it in our own country. I mean, seeing the American

00:19:44.400 flag come down and these losers raise the Palestinian flag, go live there. If you could

00:19:49.140 find a country on Earth that was pretty much the opposite of America, it would look just like

00:19:53.540 Palestine. Go take a look at women's rights in Palestine, OK? Go over the gay rights. Take a look.

00:20:00.120 See if that's really where you would like to live, even without the, quote, occupation, right? Go to

00:20:04.280 Gaza, which has been controlled by Hamas since 2005. Don't even go. Go back to 2005, 2006, before

00:20:09.820 Israel had to go issue the blockade because they were bombing Israel all the time. So Israel needed to

00:20:15.100 seize control of what goes in and what goes out. But for a couple of years there, Hamas was in charge.

00:20:19.560 The Palestinians were in charge of Gaza. Take a look at that version of Palestine. You tell me

00:20:24.240 whether you rather live there or the United States. This utopia that they spin up in their

00:20:29.780 minds doesn't exist. These places are hell holes because of the way that Hamas views the world,

00:20:35.180 views women, views human rights. And only on the streets of Manhattan and London does it get glorified

00:20:42.440 into something that is fake aspirational.

00:20:47.120 Exactly. And look, I support the right of these people to protest. What I would like to do is get

00:20:51.840 together with people like you and other friends and start raising money for one-way tickets to

00:20:56.080 Palestine for these people so that they can experience firsthand the thing that they're attempting to

00:21:01.140 glorify. That would be, I think, I'd say the same thing. You know, you and I have talked about

00:21:05.660 my background coming from the Soviet Union. I would love nothing more than to send all of these

00:21:11.100 pro-communist left-wingers to one way to North Korea so they can experience the glories of communism

00:21:16.900 as well. You know, the point you make about immigration is very valid. And this is why one

00:21:22.820 of the points I've been making this entire time is I actually, people keep saying, well, we've seen

00:21:26.880 this terrible rise in anti-Semitism. I don't think we have. I don't think we've seen a rise in

00:21:31.540 anti-Semitism. What we have seen is what we have allowed to be imported into this country and your

00:21:37.320 country and what we have allowed to be imported into the heads of our young people. I keep making

00:21:42.680 this point. Every time I come to the United States, a country I love, a country where I'm frequently,

00:21:47.380 when I was on Bill Ma's show, I said this, we have got to stop teaching our children to hate their

00:21:52.180 own country. And what you're seeing in the streets of New York, in the streets of London, in the streets

00:21:56.740 of Paris, in the streets of many, many cities around the West, is that we have a merger of two

00:22:01.860 things. The woke people who've been trained to hate their own country and the Islamists who already did

00:22:07.400 and were allowed to come in. And that potent mix is what you're seeing on the streets.

00:22:12.940 Mm-hmm. Right. We played a clip on Friday that was absolutely perfect and unbelievable in what it

00:22:19.520 exposed. But it showed, we call them like these trans-Difa activists, you know, the activists who are out

00:22:25.660 there on behalf of the LGBTQ crowd, but it's really just the T, a part of LGBTQ that's out there,

00:22:31.120 and getting in the face of somebody saying, oh, you know, they're trying, they're against trans

00:22:36.200 rights, they're against trans rights. And the pro-Palestinian protesters are like, what? Oh,

00:22:41.500 wait, we're for that. Then we're with him. It was Billboard Chris, you know, Billboard Chris,

00:22:45.500 who's always out there with his billboard. And the trans activist was like, this is bullshit.

00:22:49.960 He's against the trans people. And the pro-Palestinian people were like, oh, wait, we're with

00:22:53.520 Billboard Chris. Like the, you know, the, the realization comes out like, oh, okay, I got

00:23:01.500 it. Wait, we're not actually aligned. That's the future.

00:23:03.960 Well, I don't know if you've seen those videos, but in the UK, we've had people go to these

00:23:07.080 protests where they're chanting from the river to the sea, Palenstein will be free. And they

00:23:11.560 say to them, which river and which sea? And they don't know. They don't know. So they don't

00:23:18.380 even know what they're singing. All they know is that, and this is, you know, again, we've, I'm

00:23:23.480 sure, talked about this in the past as well. This is the introduction of this Marxist oppressor,

00:23:28.280 oppressed dynamics. The moment you say, well, this group is oppressed and that group is the oppressors,

00:23:32.960 then anything can happen to the oppressors and anything is excusable for the oppressed.

00:23:37.800 We see this time and time again. And this is why this ideology is so dangerous and has been so

00:23:43.080 dangerous because it allows them to justify any violence whatsoever against people they have

00:23:47.920 designated to be their oppressors. And I say to your listeners and to your viewers, Megan,

00:23:53.060 when these people were saying in the wake of the October 7th attacks, this is what decolonization

00:23:57.420 looks like. Take that seriously. Take that seriously. This is what they mean when they talk about

00:24:02.980 decolonizing you. This is what they mean. They have no rules anymore. I pointed out to the audience that

00:24:09.880 that was tweeted out by this activist, I mean, among others, but this one activist tweeted it out and it

00:24:16.280 was actually liked by this woman named Karen Atiyah, who runs the opinion pages at the Washington Post.

00:24:21.520 I couldn't believe it. I honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes. The Karen Atiyah happens to be

00:24:26.800 black. She's proactive in sort of the BLM world, but was on the more reasonable side of that.

00:24:33.580 And so she was somebody I followed on Twitter because I like a diversity of voices coming into my

00:24:37.040 head and to understand what everybody's saying. She liked that tweet, Constantine. I couldn't,

00:24:41.400 I was like, I'm done. I'm done. You like that tweet looking at murdered babies where the person

00:24:47.580 says, this is what decolonization looks like. I'm done with you. You've exposed yourself.

00:24:52.620 You're a hateful person. There's no excusing it. And that's the level of big reveals we've had

00:24:59.700 person after person, school after school, institution after institution, country after country

00:25:04.220 of the level of hatred. Yes, for Jews. Yes, clearly. But it's well beyond Jews. It's whites.

00:25:13.940 It's the West.

00:25:17.120 Absolutely. What this, you know, in my book, An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West, I talked

00:25:20.840 about all of this and I very much predicted, sadly, a lot of what's happening now, which is

00:25:25.320 if you continue to tell people that they're entitled to do anything to the people that are

00:25:30.300 quote unquote oppressing them and that they are the victims and the oppressed and what they must do

00:25:35.240 is reverse the racism that their ancestors experienced, reverse the victimization that

00:25:40.080 people experienced in the past, then you end up here. And while I predicted it, I also find it

00:25:46.860 difficult to believe because it's that difficult to believe that there are people in our societies

00:25:51.540 who would justify murdering innocent people. But it is the logical conclusion of their ideology

00:25:57.320 and there's no getting away from that. The moment you believe that you're entitled to go and kill

00:26:02.460 other people or massacre civilians or do whatever it is that they did, burn people alive, all of that

00:26:09.040 terrible stuff. The moment you start to justify that in your own head, anything is possible. And I just

00:26:15.260 think we've forgotten in the West how powerful ideology is because we live in this very comfortable,

00:26:20.900 very stable sort of our societies are very predictable. Nothing ever really gets too bad.

00:26:26.900 most of the time. But the truth is, ideology is a very powerful thing. And you see the Islamist

00:26:32.580 ideology. There are people with placards in the streets of London saying, we'll show you what

00:26:38.200 happens when you fight people who think death is only the beginning. And I think they're not lying.

00:26:44.040 They're not wrong. There are Islamists who believe that they will be going to heaven with their 72 virgins

00:26:51.060 when they blow themselves up or when they die fighting. And there are woke people who genuinely believe all

00:26:56.040 this stuff. And they will go along with it to its logical conclusion. That's why, you know, I've sort

00:27:01.280 of made the reputation for myself of someone who's maybe a little bit alarmist about this stuff. But

00:27:06.520 sadly, I've been very vindicated on everything that's happening because we're not being alarmist at

00:27:10.740 all. This ideology is dangerous. And you have to find a way to stop this stuff being taught in your

00:27:18.240 schools because otherwise there will be no way back.

00:27:20.400 And yes, it's at least twofold because you do have to stop it from being taught in the schools.

00:27:25.700 These young people are impressionable. And when all of their teachers and their classmates are saying

00:27:29.500 the same thing, it's tough to pull them out of it. But it's also coming in fresh faced thanks to the

00:27:37.420 immigration policies. Here's Suella Braverman in that speech that I made reference to a moment ago,

00:27:42.360 the now fired Homeland Secretary in Great Britain. Take a listen.

00:27:47.140 Multiculturalism makes no demands of the incomer to integrate. It has failed because it allowed

00:27:57.000 people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it. They could be in the society, but not

00:28:04.920 of the society. And in extreme cases, they could pursue lives aimed at undermining the stability

00:28:12.340 and threatening the security of our society. We are living with the consequence of that failure today.

00:28:22.200 Now fired.

00:28:22.980 What a racist.

00:28:24.620 Yeah, what a racist. That's well, I know you've pointed out anybody brave enough to say what she

00:28:29.320 just said, whether it's Suella Braverman or Tucker Carlson winds up fired eventually, gets called a

00:28:35.100 bigot, right? Like you're not allowed to go there. You're not. Remember, it was even Tom Brokaw. I don't know if you

00:28:41.240 remember this, but even Tom Brokaw of NBC News, the god of NBC News, um, said something about how these

00:28:46.720 immigrants need to assimilate once they come to America. Well, he got browbeaten for two weeks in

00:28:51.260 the press because of this and wound up having to dial it back. What did he say that's wrong? You don't

00:28:56.080 want to live an American lifestyle or an English lifestyle, then stay home, get out. You can practice

00:29:03.160 all of your Palestinian customs in Gaza. Go ahead and do it. But what they want, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali

00:29:11.160 has been better than anybody in expressing this, uh, of course, originally from Somalia, eventually

00:29:17.020 manipulated by the Muslim Brotherhood, somehow got out, extracted herself from this. We did a long

00:29:22.500 episode on it and she's written books on it. Um, somehow got out and became a lifeline critic

00:29:29.580 of Islam and what they do in particular to women, but she has been sounding the alarm about this for

00:29:34.980 a decade now about what's happening in particular in Europe. These men are moving in and women who

00:29:42.180 used to be able to walk in tank tops and shorts down the street to go get a coffee now get harassed.

00:29:47.960 In some instances, attacked often have to work, walk with a male family member now, uh, just in order

00:29:54.380 to ensure their safety because they're not assimilating. They're expecting the European

00:29:59.780 young women and others to assimilate to them. And we've got to a point where, uh, you know,

00:30:07.140 it's the descendants, Brown women, descendants of immigrants like Soella Braverman, first generation

00:30:12.260 immigrants like me. We're all saying this because you cannot have a cohesive society, uh, if people

00:30:18.380 are not willing to live together by an agreed set of customs and rules. And the point that she was

00:30:23.820 making in that speech that you played about multiculturalism is a very, very important

00:30:28.340 one that most people don't actually understand. So let's break it down. There is a big difference

00:30:32.800 between living in a multicultural society and a multi-ethnic society. None of us, I don't think

00:30:39.000 have a problem with living in a society where there are people of different races, different

00:30:43.360 ethnicities, different religions. Uh, these are all things that are absolutely fine. As long

00:30:48.720 as those people all agree that they're living in one country, they're all American first,

00:30:53.900 or they're all British first. And we have a shared set of ideas about where, where we want

00:31:00.340 our country to be going. That is a multi-ethnic society, which works perfectly well and is perfectly

00:31:05.980 manageable and nobody has a problem with it. But a multicultural society is a society that says,

00:31:11.040 oh no, no, no, you don't need to be British. You don't need to be American. You can be exactly

00:31:15.940 the way that you are, where you came from, or your grandparents came from. Keep your customs

00:31:20.980 exactly the way that they are. Don't adjust to our society. You don't have to learn the language.

00:31:25.580 You don't have to understand the values of this country. You don't have to respect the flag of

00:31:29.520 this country. Just live any which way you want. That doesn't work. That leads to ethnic tension

00:31:34.400 and eventually ethnic violence of the kind that we're starting to see around Europe. It's a very

00:31:39.300 dangerous place. And I hate to tell you this, Megan, but it is true. Every Jewish friend I speak to

00:31:44.620 in the UK is thinking of leaving if they can. That's the position we're in.

00:31:49.360 Where are they going to go? Here?

00:31:51.500 Probably America. And every Jewish friend I have in America is saying, I've bought a gun in the last

00:31:56.920 week. Right. Why wouldn't you? I would too. If I were Jewish and I didn't have a gun, 100%,

00:32:02.900 I'd be getting a gun right now. And then you get morons like criticizing Ben Shapiro because he has an

00:32:06.880 AR-15. Are you kidding me? I don't think there's an American Jew under more threats than Ben Shapiro.

00:32:11.600 He should have an arsenal. If I were Ben, I'd have an arsenal and I'd have a team surrounding

00:32:16.280 me at all times because he's been extremely bold and courageous as he should be on this issue. And

00:32:21.380 he's been threatened. His life has been threatened by the alt-right and these lunatics who are very,

00:32:26.100 very similar. They have so much in common, as you point out. And by the way, in case you think,

00:32:31.260 yeah, this is Constantine's problem over in London. You know, there's some lunatics in New York,

00:32:35.140 but it's really not an American problem. It's not going to come to a city near me.

00:32:37.460 Take a look at Austin, Texas yesterday. Austin, Texas, people. Look at this.

00:32:48.520 For the listening audience, you've got cowboys on horses waving Palestinian flags. So as Steve

00:32:55.440 Krakauer, my executive producer who lives in Texas, in Dallas, tells me, Austin's not really Texas.

00:33:00.940 It's not really Texas. And no self-respecting cowboy would ever be caught dead on a horse with

00:33:07.260 a Palestinian flag. So that's fake too. It happened, but they're not representative of what's

00:33:13.140 actually happening. But there it is. It happened in Texas. These wannabe cowboys waving Palestinian

00:33:20.320 flags. I mean, to your point of this influx of immigration under the guise of multiculturalism

00:33:28.520 will be fine hasn't worked. It's a failure. And the failure is right before our very eyes.

00:33:34.420 Well, one of the things that's happened with immigration, Megan, is just we have

00:33:37.660 something happened around, certainly in the UK, around the mid-90s, probably in the US similar

00:33:43.100 time period where immigration went from being like, it's a good thing that allows us to solve

00:33:49.080 certain problems. You know, America is a country that's built on immigration. The UK isn't, but

00:33:53.900 we need some immigration to keep, you know, new workers coming in and keep things fresh. And

00:33:59.500 nobody really had a particular problem with that. When I moved to the UK in 1996 as a young boy,

00:34:04.740 I was one of about 55,000 net that came in. And at that time, 3% of the British public thought that

00:34:11.580 immigration was a major issue because it wasn't a major issue. For comparison, last year, the net number

00:34:17.940 of immigrants coming in legally, legally was 600,000 and probably around 100,000 illegally,

00:34:23.880 where we don't even know where they are, who they are, what their values and views are. And we're

00:34:29.700 spending at the moment about $10 million a day on hotels just for the illegal immigrants who are

00:34:35.100 coming in. And the reason that's happened, Megan, is that at some point a shift happened. And I quote

00:34:41.260 all these left-wing politicians in my book who were all way to the right of Donald Trump on immigration

00:34:46.100 in your country and way to the right of any conservative in this country now, who all said,

00:34:51.480 you know, we need a border. We can't allow people to come in illegally. I mean, Barack Obama

00:34:55.680 was a nativist by the standards of the modern day. And what happened was immigration went from like,

00:35:02.700 this is a good thing when it's measured correctly and when it's controlled and when it's the people

00:35:07.480 that we want coming into, immigration is a moral good. Immigration is somehow something that we must

00:35:14.820 have, not because it benefits us, but because it is our duty to throw open the border to people coming

00:35:21.540 in, in any number. And we don't get the right to say we want specific people or we want specific

00:35:27.960 numbers of people. It's just something that has to happen to us. And that is why we're not having the

00:35:34.860 problems that we're having. So every country needs borders. Your country needs to get serious about

00:35:40.920 its border security. And so does our country. And so do many countries in Europe.

00:35:46.920 It's downright alarming. I mean, the numbers that are coming through here in America are downright

00:35:50.460 alarming and we're not doing anything about it. There's been, you know, they're doing an impeachment

00:35:53.540 inquiry of Joe Biden for his corruption. I get it. But what about Homeland Security? You know,

00:35:58.820 what about Mayorkas who has just opened the floodgates and allowed these people to come in?

00:36:04.080 We have no idea where they're going. And if you don't think there's going to be an increase

00:36:07.960 in people who are Hamas sympathizers in the wake of what we're seeing over here in Europe

00:36:12.360 and in the Mideast, you haven't been paying attention. We already have over 150 inks on

00:36:16.960 the TerraWatch list who have made it in. Go ahead.

00:36:19.040 Yeah. Sorry to interrupt. I was just in LA, actually. And because I have a Russian name,

00:36:23.640 all the Armenian Lyft drivers, which is all the Lyft drivers in LA, basically, they all start talking to

00:36:28.860 me in Russian. And, you know, I get chatting with them asking, you know, how did you end up here or

00:36:34.480 your story and whatever. And what I found was most of the people that I spoke to who came in the 90s

00:36:39.300 and early noughties, they were people who came legally. They applied for a work permit or visa or

00:36:44.600 whatever it was and came that way. But the people who've come more recently or the people who've brought

00:36:49.620 relatives more recently, they were all saying, well, you know, my 80-year-old father, yeah,

00:36:55.180 I just brought them over the Mexican border. And if an 80-year-old pensioner is able to make it

00:37:03.340 across, and this isn't someone fleeing, you know, Venezuela, this is people from all over the world

00:37:09.880 now coming in. You have no idea who's coming through that border. And if I were a Hamas terrorist,

00:37:15.320 that's exactly where I'd be going right now.

00:37:18.180 Okay. Most importantly, did you say early noughties? The early noughties? Is that how you're

00:37:24.340 referring to the 2010 period?

00:37:26.360 No, no, the 2000s. The 2000s.

00:37:28.660 2000s. I've heard it called the early aughts. I've never heard anybody call it the early noughties.

00:37:34.240 So I like that.

00:37:34.960 It's because in England, we say nought for zero. Nought is zero. That's why.

00:37:40.300 See, we really are two countries divided by a common language, Megan.

00:37:45.580 That's super fun to call it the noughties. Had I known that at the time, I would have lived

00:37:49.800 differently. All right, stand by. We're going to squeeze in a quick break, and there's much more

00:37:54.260 to get to, including the increase in the rhetoric praising Hitler. That's next.

00:38:04.360 There was a report today that on the body of one Hamas fighter, they found a copy of Mein Kampf,

00:38:10.440 Adolf Hitler's book. Then you've got this, Rebel News in London, interviewing a pro-Palestinian

00:38:16.800 supporter. Take a listen to the messaging there. It's not seven.

00:38:20.140 If the West feels so sorry for the Israeli Zionists, why don't they give a place in Germany?

00:38:27.680 Why don't you go to Hitler's back garden and make an occupation there? Then they will know

00:38:32.740 what kind of people these are. Why every so many hundred years, the Zionists get slaughtered?

00:38:39.720 Because Hitler knew how to deal with these people.

00:38:42.900 Oh, great. Hitler knew how to deal with these people, says the man. I'll give you one more.

00:38:49.820 There is, um, it's random, but it's interesting. There's some woman on Hinge, a dating website,

00:38:55.540 and she went on a rant. This is her attempt to win over suitors, Constantine. Hitler was doing the

00:39:02.120 world a favor. Now look what y'all got us into. I'll show you what I think of Jews. If I could go

00:39:09.680 back in time, I would go to 1945. My sole purpose in life now will be to have kids and figure out

00:39:15.740 how to go back in time so we can finish the Jews. Free Palestine, burn the Jews, gas them again.

00:39:22.740 I realize this is some rando, but we could do this all day. You and I could be here all day with the

00:39:27.660 amount of Hitler rhetoric that's coming back. He's their new hero. And yet these morons in the college

00:39:34.340 campuses don't seem to be making the connection. Well, right. The people who spent seven years

00:39:40.920 calling everyone a Nazi don't recognize Nazis when they're directly in front of them. Isn't that

00:39:45.880 amazing? Uh, and by the way, this woman wants to go back to 1945. I mean, I'm not a historian exactly,

00:39:52.040 but I think by 1945, we were kind of done with her lot. Uh, it was pretty wrapped up sister. It was

00:39:58.340 pretty wrapped up. So, uh, this is the problem with the people is they're incredibly stupid and

00:40:03.160 ignorant on top of the hateful rhetoric that they bring. Uh, but yeah, I mean, this is,

00:40:07.580 this is the point I keep making to people over here in the UK, Megan, if you want to talk about

00:40:11.740 the far right, this is the far right. This is the far right. This is what it looks like. It's people

00:40:17.060 who are racist, who are homophobic, who are sexist and who want to kill Jews. How about we focus the

00:40:23.340 attention you've been focusing on people that you've been calling Nazis because they made a joke in a

00:40:27.760 comedy club 20 years ago, uh, on these people instead. And maybe we can actually get rid of the

00:40:32.540 people who do hate the Jews and who are hateful and bigoted and racist. Um, but they don't make

00:40:38.060 that connection. Uh, and it's because as we've been talking about, they've been brainwashed into

00:40:42.340 this ideology. At MIT. I mean, I, I gotta be honest. I expected at Brown. I'm not surprised to

00:40:48.600 see this kind of thing at Yale or Stanford, MIT. That's just where like the math wizards go. That's

00:40:54.880 where like the future quants go for their education. And they're going to make good money. And we're going

00:40:59.540 to rely on their big brains and their ability to be superhuman calculators to do what needs to be

00:41:04.540 done in that field. What the hell is activism doing at MIT? No place is immune. Um, we played

00:41:11.240 the video the other day of a math lecture being disrupted by this pro-Palestinian and the teacher's

00:41:16.400 like, could you just wait until I finished the calculation and then you can do your thing.

00:41:19.060 Anyway, it's gotten worse. It's gotten worse. Uh, we're now there's been, um, we didn't play it.

00:41:26.860 Okay. Let's watch it. Here it is. Uh, can I, can I just finish this line and then, then I get,

00:41:32.900 I'll give you the time. Right. Go ahead.

00:41:35.240 Oh, shut up and get back to the math. I mean, honestly, like how ostracized did these poor

00:41:50.380 people want to be? You're already a mathlete. It's you can't add pro-Palestinian anti-Jew to

00:41:56.780 the list, like work on it. Okay. Then Jewish students were prevented from attending classes

00:42:04.000 by a blockade of hostile anti-Israel students, uh, and saying that, that we fear this school

00:42:10.300 is no longer safe for Jews. They, uh, four hours after this protest began, the administration finally

00:42:16.980 said, get out of here, leave. Otherwise you're going to be suspended. Guess what? Only the Jewish

00:42:21.960 students who had shown up actually listened to the order. The pro-Palestinian students stayed and

00:42:28.600 the MIT president, Sally Kornbluth said those, those who remained, you're going to be disciplined,

00:42:33.840 but it's only going to be, you can't go to extracurricular activities because we understand

00:42:38.700 most of you are here on student visas from other countries. And because now the politicians are

00:42:46.040 threatening that you will be deported in various States. If you come over here and support

00:42:51.620 terror, um, we're not going to sort of get you on anybody's radar because if a student is

00:42:58.060 academically dismissed under federal law, their visas can be revoked. So Sally Kornbluth decided

00:43:04.540 to run cover, uh, for these kids leading John Podoretz to post on X. I see. So if you break us law,

00:43:11.180 but are a rich foreigner, you should stay at MIT rather than MIT helping you to be deported. Good to

00:43:16.820 know. Um, this is the state of American campuses. You can't even avoid the activism when you're just

00:43:23.020 sitting there trying to do your math. Well, these institutions are riddled with it. And, uh, it's

00:43:28.820 not just colleges. It's also schools. I mean, you know, elementary and up the, these ideologies are

00:43:34.460 getting taught at a young age, as you know, with the gender we were and all of the rest of it. And as to

00:43:39.500 your question, how is it that these super smart kids are convinced of all of this stuff? A friend of

00:43:45.620 mine, Michael Malice, uh, said something to me, which I thought was very powerful. He said,

00:43:49.380 a smart dog is easier to train. And that's what is happening. Uh, just because you're intelligent

00:43:54.640 doesn't mean you're not going to fall for this stuff. Ideology is a very powerful tool. And I keep,

00:43:59.640 you know, we forget how powerful it is, but actually all we need to do is look back a few

00:44:04.360 decades in our history to see that human beings are incredibly susceptible to two things,

00:44:10.260 ideology and charismatic, uh, powerful leaders who will use that ideology for evil. So watch out for

00:44:17.140 both of those is my message to people in the West and starting with ideology, any ideology that tries

00:44:22.420 to pit different groups against each other that says, Oh, men and women, they're not supposed to

00:44:26.780 work together. They're not supposed to, uh, get married and have kids and raise them together and

00:44:31.300 collaborate and look out for each other. No, no, no men and women are enemies or black people and white

00:44:37.700 people. They're not supposed to work together and get along. No, no, no. They're enemies or

00:44:41.780 whatever other groups that might be. Anyone who tells you that be very, very suspicious of those

00:44:46.800 people. Hmm. Um, I've got to ask you because the last time you came out, came out, we talked a lot

00:44:52.880 about Ukraine and you were explaining your marriage and you, you married somebody from Ukraine and you

00:45:00.860 have a Russian background. You're a Jew. You've got, you've got a foot in all these camps,

00:45:04.820 Constantine. You're the perfect guest on virtually every story we cover.

00:45:07.700 And, um, you were very pro support of Israel by the West and very much wanted the West, America,

00:45:14.060 the England to help Ukraine in this battle. And I, it really caught my attention when you said,

00:45:19.460 it's time to end the war in Ukraine. The time has come. Why is that?

00:45:26.620 Well, it's for the reason I said from day one, which is that, uh, the ultimate strategy for Ukraine

00:45:31.760 was always going to be, uh, to put up a fight, uh, to see how well they could do with the support that

00:45:37.300 we provided. And unless the West was willing to provide all the weapons and everything that they

00:45:42.580 needed to actually win the war, which it, it, you know, the West simply doesn't have the appetite

00:45:46.860 for, uh, then the best deal they were going to get was by pushing Russia out, which they did.

00:45:51.400 I remind people in the first three weeks of the war, uh, the Russian, Russian troops were on the

00:45:56.640 outskirts of the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. Uh, they were on the outskirts of Harkov, which is in the

00:46:01.660 Northeast. They'd captured Kherson, they'd captured Mariupol, they'd captured a large number of small

00:46:07.740 cities and a lot of territory. Uh, and the Ukrainians pushed them out with our help. The Ukrainians

00:46:12.620 managed to, uh, retake Kherson actually without a fight. The, the Russians had to withdraw from there in

00:46:17.900 the South. They pushed them away in the North. They pushed them away in the Northeast, uh, and, uh,

00:46:22.980 achieved what actually nobody at that point could have expected. But ultimately this was always going

00:46:27.160 to come down to a negotiated settlement. As I said, pretty much, I said, I think a week after the

00:46:32.640 conflict began here on British TV, uh, the deal was going to be, you fight, you give away some land

00:46:38.760 in exchange for long-term security. Uh, and what we have seen, particularly with a Ukrainian, uh,

00:46:44.400 counter offensive this summer, uh, is that even though the West has provided quite a lot of

00:46:49.900 support, it hasn't provided, uh, the things that the Ukrainians really need to be able to win that

00:46:54.520 fight. And because it's taken so long to provide that equipment and the hardware, uh, what the

00:46:59.940 Russians have been able to do is dig in, uh, plant mines everywhere and so on and so forth. Uh, and so

00:47:05.680 the, the, the counter offensive was bloody, but didn't achieve very much. And so what we've had

00:47:09.940 over the last year, really the last major win for Ukraine was a year ago in her son.

00:47:15.000 And since then the lines on the map have barely moved, but a lot of young men, uh, and boys,

00:47:19.680 frankly, at this point are paying for it with their lives. So, uh, the, the, we, we gave Ukraine

00:47:24.160 the support it needed to put up a fight. It has done that now. Now is the time to bring home

00:47:28.820 settlement and allow the Ukrainians, uh, in exchange for some territorial concessions,

00:47:33.360 we need to give them long-term security. What do you suggest? I know I only have a short time

00:47:36.920 left, but what do you suggest on the concessions? It's got to be something like, uh, well, the

00:47:40.500 concessions are essentially most of the territory Russia currently occupies, which is not, uh, not

00:47:45.100 ideal of course, but in exchange you get Ukraine long-term security, either that's membership of

00:47:50.420 NATO or it's a Korean scenario where Russia can't do this again, because you remember this happened

00:47:55.520 in 2014 and then again in 2022. What we have to do is make sure it doesn't happen again. The

00:48:01.480 territory, although that's obviously not a great outcome, matters a lot less. And that's why I

00:48:06.620 basically been consistent throughout Ukraine needed to fight, put up a fight, give something

00:48:11.240 away in order to get long-term security and security sovereignty, which it has done.

00:48:14.800 Wow. So interesting to hear you talk about it after our last time together,

00:48:19.340 Konstantin, God bless you. Thank you so much for your brave voice. You guys subscribe to

00:48:23.340 Trigonometry. You will not be sorry. Uh, big, big fan. Thank you for being here.

00:48:27.820 I appreciate it, Megan. Thank you.

00:48:29.500 All right. And don't forget folks, you can find the Megan Kelly show live on Sirius XM

00:48:34.140 Triumph Channel 111 every weekday at noon East, and we'll be right back.

00:48:41.760 Now we turn to a new documentary that chronicles three families who lost their children over what

00:48:47.980 they say was a connection to the COVID-19 vaccine. The documentary is called Shot Dead, and it tells

00:48:55.780 the true stories of the heartache felt by parents around the United States. Director and producer

00:49:00.600 Taryn Gregson, who has her own COVID vaccine story, and father Ernest Ramirez, whose story

00:49:06.280 is featured in the documentary. Join me now. Thank you both so much for being here. Uh, Ernest and Taryn,

00:49:13.080 all the best to you. I really appreciate it. I watched the entire piece and found it very compelling.

00:49:18.760 And, uh, Ernest, I'm so sorry about the loss of Junior. Thank you so much for coming on to share what

00:49:24.600 must be very painful memory with us. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. Thank you, ma'am.

00:49:30.840 Um, you feature the stories of three families, and I just want to tell the audience as we get started

00:49:35.400 with this just today in the news is the fact that the Department of Justice is posting a new jobs ad

00:49:44.680 today looking for eight new attorneys to defend the federal government in vaccine injury cases. More and

00:49:52.280 more people are finding the courage to try to challenge, uh, yes, the drug companies, which is nearly

00:49:58.920 impossible, but also the federal government for forcing, and they did force these vaccines on us

00:50:05.320 without the proper disclosures, without the proper risks, and ultimately without informed consent. It's a,

00:50:12.360 it's a Herculean effort to get past all of the roadblocks that the government put up long ago to try to

00:50:18.680 prevent these kinds of lawsuits so that understandably they want pharmacies to be or pharmaceutical companies

00:50:23.560 to be free to develop vaccines that would ideally cure cancer, cure Alzheimer's, etc. But there are serious

00:50:29.960 downsides to those roadblocks. So that's where you guys come in, trying to shine a light, Taryn, on what's

00:50:36.440 actually happened. And I just want to say this before we get it going. Before I took the vaccine, I thought to

00:50:44.040 myself and I said publicly, God forbid there's something really wrong with a vaccine. These geniuses

00:50:50.680 who dreamed up the vaccine at Pfizer, Moderna, they're going to have to dream up a cure. They, they just

00:50:58.280 will, because if there's some massive problem with it, they could never just sit on their hands and

00:51:03.800 ignore that. Never in a million years did I anticipate that they would ignore it, that they would actively

00:51:10.040 work to silence people who are raising it, that they would bury data as, as has been alleged. And

00:51:16.840 we had somebody on this show alleging it with respect to AstraZeneca overseas. Never in a million years did

00:51:23.480 I, did I consider people would actually potentially die from the vaccine and there would be no fixing it.

00:51:29.240 And that is what shot dead chronicles that you say there are people way too many people who took this

00:51:37.000 vaccine, trusting big pharma, trusting the government, trusting the advertising they saw on TV and the

00:51:41.960 enormous pressure to get it and found out the hard way they and their families that there were serious

00:51:50.200 risks. So how did you pick the families, Taryn, who you profiled in the movie?

00:51:55.000 Well, at first we wanted to just make a movie about people that were dying from this vaccine,

00:52:01.080 because we knew it was happening, you know, just anecdotally, we were hearing stories of people

00:52:05.480 that we knew passing away after getting the shot. And, you know, just as Dr. Peter McCullough talks

00:52:11.720 about in the film, when you have something that has been applied to the population in mass worldwide,

00:52:19.080 even a small portion that have reactions and or die from it, that's still a considerable amount of

00:52:27.320 people. So when we started reaching out, when I started contacting people and talking to them

00:52:32.680 and interviewing them, it became clear to me that the most tragic, all of the stories are tragic.

00:52:39.000 No matter if you've been injured, or if you have a family member that has passed from the shot,

00:52:44.040 all of those stories are tragic. But when I was really talking to these parents who lost their

00:52:50.200 children and their babies, and I was pregnant during the pandemic. And so I know what it's like

00:52:56.840 to get that pressure to get the shot while pregnant. And I know so many women that have experienced

00:53:02.440 miscarriages and stillbirths and menstrual issues. So it just became clear to myself and the We the

00:53:10.440 Patriots USA team that we needed to focus on the kids and the babies in this because they are the

00:53:15.960 future and we need to save them. And they for no reason whatsoever needed a COVID shot, considering we

00:53:24.120 know that they, you know, had a 1.00001 chance of really seriously being hurt by COVID, the disease

00:53:33.080 itself. So it all comes down to the kids. And we know that that's the the target that the big

00:53:40.280 pharma tends to go after and things like this. And we know that once ACIP voted unanimously to put it

00:53:47.800 on the recommended childhood vaccine schedule, that states were going to soon start to put it on their

00:53:53.080 their vaccine schedule and require parents to get these for their kids to go to school,

00:53:57.960 to go to be in daycare, to be enrolled in various activities. We know that women are now going to be

00:54:03.720 told by their OBGYNs to add this to the lineup of shots that they should get while they are pregnant.

00:54:09.800 And so we had to step in and we had to focus on the kids because they are the future and they are who

00:54:16.280 matter. The allegation that the vaccines caused the deaths profiled in the movie shot dead is as I

00:54:25.800 can, as far as I can tell, supported, not necessarily conclusive, but it's circumstantial evidence. It's not

00:54:32.280 like an actual shooting of a gun that you could know caused someone's death. But you have Dr. Peter

00:54:40.840 McCullough, who's been he's been excoriated by the left and by the people who want us all to have the

00:54:46.040 vaccine in every seventh booster. But he's been a skeptic of how safe this is pretty much from the

00:54:52.760 beginning. And he's taken a look at the autopsy reports in these cases and said in the movie,

00:54:59.080 I mean, I watched him that he does believe these were vaccine caused deaths.

00:55:05.480 Yeah, that was very important to us that it was, you know, backed up by an expert,

00:55:10.520 although we want to focus on the families and the humanity, because I think that's really what

00:55:15.480 it cuts to the core of a person. And, you know, maybe makes them want to look further into things by

00:55:21.320 seeing the humanity and leveling human to human with people on their experiences. We did really

00:55:27.400 want to have these experts in in this film to back up and support what these parents were saying. And I

00:55:35.000 think it's important because, as you said, Megan, you know, so many people, whether they've been

00:55:40.440 injured or have lost a loved one have been told and just drug through the mud by what people, whether

00:55:46.200 it's on social media, even, you know, as we chronicle in this, the medical examiners for their

00:55:51.640 various states, trying to get the autopsy results, they they're given the runaround and all these

00:55:57.480 various aspects. And so they have to seek outside, you know, help to look at these autopsies to try and

00:56:04.600 get answers. And we even, you know, also have Dr. Thorpe, who's an OBGYN whistleblower, as well as

00:56:12.200 Michelle Gershman, a labor and delivery nurse whistleblower. And, you know, these people have

00:56:18.520 evidence, they've done studies, they've done research. And not only that, they anecdotally see

00:56:25.320 evidence every day and their practices and, and what they're seeing. And it's just happening so much.

00:56:32.840 It's hard to ignore, despite the fact that they are trying to bury it.

00:56:36.920 What's so frustrating, Taryn, is that they, they don't, they're not open-minded. I feel like

00:56:41.480 your side and I as well are open-minded. If it's, if it wasn't the vaccine, show me what it was,

00:56:47.480 explain to me what caused the death. And their side is hardcore. Like, no, we're not going to talk

00:56:53.160 about the vaccines, not withstanding proximity and time, you know, death to vaccine, myocarditis

00:56:59.080 having been found in the autopsy, blood clotting, haven't been found in somebody who had no

00:57:03.400 comorbidities. Their instinct seems to want to be shut it down. It wasn't the vaccine. That's

00:57:09.240 what we know for sure, which only leads to more suspicion. Yeah. And that's why featuring children,

00:57:14.440 I think is really important too, because we can all pretty much agree that most children are pretty

00:57:18.840 healthy and don't have many preexisting conditions, if at all. And so that's why it's important too,

00:57:24.760 to show the children, to show these people, you know, Ernest can speak on this. His son died

00:57:29.240 five days after the shot. I mean, how he's a healthy 16 year old boy. And Dr. Peter McCullough

00:57:36.600 also goes into this. Most of these kids and these teenagers have myocardial scars on their hearts and

00:57:42.040 they don't even know it. So they're walking around with these scars. And prior to COVID,

00:57:46.760 all of the, the medical advisors around the country, CDC, NIH, you name it, have on their own

00:57:53.880 website. If someone has myocarditis, that they should not be participating in athletic activity.

00:58:00.200 Well, you know, now they're just completely ignoring the fact that kids have myocarditis,

00:58:05.480 don't even know it. And so they go out like, like junior did and runs in the park and collapses and,

00:58:11.480 and dies or Trista Martin, 18 years old. You also get an adrenaline boost in the waking hours of

00:58:17.560 the morning. That's what wakes you up. That's when she had her cardiac episode and her entire body

00:58:23.000 shut down and she went on to pass away. So that's why including these children and showing these are

00:58:28.200 perfectly healthy kids. And then they all of a sudden pass away after receiving the shot. It's

00:58:35.400 hard to ignore. And it's, and I just, I just want to say to the audience, yes, you can get myocarditis

00:58:42.200 from COVID too. That is a fact, but what went down during COVID was most people were getting or had

00:58:49.400 gotten COVID. They already had it. So they were building up their own natural immunity. They did

00:58:54.280 not need the vaccine. We were told that the vaccine would prevent the spread. It did not

00:58:58.280 prevent the spread. So once you've had COVID, you do not need that vaccine. That is what more and more

00:59:03.080 experts came out to warn us of. Um, though not the mainstream, you know, that were being cited in

00:59:08.600 the Washington post in the New York times, they, they were like, you need it all, get it all.

00:59:11.800 Well, and if you had known that there was a, if you had known that there was a risk of myocarditis

00:59:17.560 from COVID and from the vaccine as a parent, and you knew your child already had COVID,

00:59:23.240 I think very few parents would have been run to get a vaccine, which increases the risk of

00:59:28.520 myocarditis again, again, on a child who might already have it now further in that none of this was

00:59:35.480 disclosed. Parents were just told that you feature this and shot dead the advertising campaigns.

00:59:41.960 It was like glamorous, you know, there was celebrities and sports figures. We still see

00:59:47.720 it now with Travis Kelsey, like get your booster without the downside risks being fully vetted,

00:59:54.760 disclosed and discussed, right? Standby. Cause I want to bring in earnest. You you've talked about

00:59:58.680 Ernesto jr and earnest. Um, as Taryn points out, he was 16 years old. Can you just tell us

01:00:05.720 because the movie shot dead does a good job of describing the fact you were a single dad

01:00:10.680 and it was just you and junior and the two of you, it was like you guys against the world.

01:00:17.080 So just describe your relationship with your son, please.

01:00:22.760 Like I've said several times before junior was my best friend.

01:00:25.800 And we, you know, we did everything together. He loved the outdoors. Uh, I would take him hunting,

01:00:35.640 fishing, camping, uh,

01:00:38.360 like, like, like a normal person would do with their buddy, you know, uh, we barbecued together.

01:00:48.120 We worked on cars and motorcycles together.

01:00:50.840 I couldn't have asked for a better child.

01:00:53.800 We never made any decisions without the other. Uh, if we were going to go out to eat,

01:01:02.280 we'd talk about it. If he wanted me to cook for him, we'd talk about that. I mean,

01:01:06.360 like I said, uh, he was such a wonderful child. I mean, he was so sweet. Anyone that met my son

01:01:17.720 would compliment me on the way I raised him and that they, it, it was just natural. He was just such a loving person.

01:01:28.280 Uh, and what, what Ernest, what made you decide to get him the vaccine?

01:01:35.880 Because here where I live in South Texas, all they showed all day long with people catching COVID,

01:01:43.640 uh, being rushed to the hospital, put on ventilators and dying. They weren't showing

01:01:51.240 anybody coming off ventilators and they were dying alone in the hospital. They weren't letting

01:01:56.440 the family members be there with them. And like I said, we have never done anything without the others.

01:02:03.720 And I know I would have gotten in trouble. I would have fought my way to get in there to be by his side.

01:02:08.120 I would have never let him alone. And, uh, so I went and took it first. And at first I didn't get any

01:02:17.320 side effects. And, uh, so Pfizer kept advertising how it's safe for teenagers. And, you know, we were

01:02:27.640 locked up in the house and I know he was getting a little stir crazy because, you know, the only time

01:02:33.880 he would go out is he'd run a couple of laps around our subdivision and come straight back because he

01:02:39.240 wanted to prepare himself for when it was over with and get back to baseball season because he loved

01:02:46.360 baseball. And I told him Pfizer saying it's safe for teenagers. You want to go get the shot. And like,

01:02:53.880 you know, kids don't like to get any type of injections. And he said, sure, dad, let's go.

01:02:59.720 Because we believed their lives. We thought it was safe. We thought it was going to be effective.

01:03:06.360 When my neighbor said she was going to take her son and junior out to eat and play basketball,

01:03:13.160 I felt confident that he had that first dose. He was protected. Nothing was going to happen to him.

01:03:20.440 He wouldn't get COVID. So I let him go.

01:03:26.680 And like I said, I love, I love that. I love my son so much. I would wake up every morning,

01:03:34.040 wake him up. I'd give him a hug and a kiss before I go to work. In the evening, when I get home,

01:03:38.840 I'd give him a hug and a kiss. I mean, we were just so close. I met him at the front door. I gave him

01:03:44.600 some money. I gave him a hug and a kiss. And I told him to be good and call me if you need anything.

01:03:51.720 And like I said, I didn't know that was going to be the last time I spoke to my son.

01:03:57.160 And I couldn't believe, I don't know why I believe their lives. I used to have confidence in

01:04:05.160 our government. I thought they were here to protect us and for our best interests. And

01:04:12.440 they just proved me wrong. They proved me, proved that I was ignorant all these years,

01:04:17.640 trusting them and how to get, I'm here without my son.

01:04:24.040 So sorry. So sorry for your loss. I can see how close you two were. He, he was only 16. It was only one,

01:04:33.560 one jab, the first jab only. And five days later, he died. Yes, ma'am. Running, running across the field.

01:04:42.920 They had went out to eat. They were playing video games. And my neighbor said they got off the truck

01:04:49.400 and they just took off running and he collapsed right then and there. There's no signs of anything.

01:04:56.360 I mentioned Dr. Peter McCullough. He, I know, did review Ernesto Jr.'s autopsy report.

01:05:05.080 Yes, ma'am.

01:05:05.880 It includes an interview with him in Shot Dead, the movie. Here's a bit of it in Soundbite 31.

01:05:12.840 I was fortunate to review the autopsy report. And in my interpretation, I have considerable

01:05:21.240 experience in cardiac pathology and examination of hearts at the time of death.

01:05:25.560 death. I believe the autopsy is conclusive for the cause of death being COVID-19 vaccine-induced

01:05:34.360 myocarditis. He took a messenger RNA vaccine, installs the genetic code for the lethal Wuhan

01:05:40.840 spike protein. The spike protein has been found in the human heart. It causes inflammation.

01:05:47.560 It causes tissue destruction. And it sets up a zone of abnormal conduction.

01:05:55.560 Hmm. So Taryn, you know, you and I both know there are tens of millions of people who have

01:06:03.640 gotten these vaccines who were fine, who did not die and who did not get myocarditis. And of course,

01:06:11.640 the drug companies and the federal government and the media would like to point out these are all just

01:06:18.120 bizarre anomalies. This could have happened to any of these sweet children, irrespective of the vaccine.

01:06:25.480 You know, people do die unexpectedly. And they dismiss the possibility that it's tied to the

01:06:33.080 vaccine, no matter what Dr. McCullough and others will say. What happened if, did you go to Pfizer?

01:06:38.920 Did you go to the drug companies for a statement? Like what, what was their messaging on it?

01:06:42.200 No, because we have been shadow banned and censored and unable to even, you know, speak with those on

01:06:53.560 the front lines about this. You know, we tried reaching out to the various physicians of the

01:06:58.840 people included in the film. They wouldn't comment on it. I mean, Ernest can talk to his story on how

01:07:03.960 the man and the doctor that administered, Ernest Schott himself, wouldn't even admit that he

01:07:10.520 administered the shot to Ernest. Trista Martin's parents went through the same thing. They had to

01:07:15.480 prove by pulling up insurance records that the doctor gave their daughter, Trista, the shot. They

01:07:23.240 even had to show him the doctor himself, her vaccine card that he signed, no matter how many times he

01:07:29.880 kept sitting there denying that. So, you know, we were not able to reach out to those companies and we

01:07:37.560 failed even to get responses from those that were directly involved with these families in the film.

01:07:44.040 I think, you know, you know, the general line you were going to get. Before I go back to Ernest,

01:07:47.640 I do want to spend a minute on, on Trista Martin, an 18 year old girl who died and her parents sat with

01:07:53.480 you and told her story, which is equally heartbreaking. There's just a little bit with

01:07:57.480 her parents recounting, um, some of the circumstances around the day she died, SOT 33.

01:08:04.840 As they were moving her up to the ICU, one of her friends said to us, I think I need to tell you guys

01:08:11.960 this. She had, she got the COVID vaccine and she asked us not to tell you. At the time it,

01:08:19.480 nothing really registered. Like it was just, you know, well. Yeah. It was like, well, that's

01:08:24.600 unfortunate. That's awful. What's the chances that this is what caused that? That's kind of how we

01:08:29.400 felt at first. We didn't really put it together until a couple of weeks of research. Her toxicology

01:08:36.520 came back clean. She tested negative for COVID. They had no idea what was going on.

01:08:41.960 They said her heart was swollen. Her organs were shutting down.

01:08:47.000 I don't believe that she was there anymore at that point. I believe she passed at the apartment.

01:08:55.880 They were, they were keeping her alive then with machines and, um,

01:09:01.160 It didn't look like Trista. There was none of that bright.

01:09:03.960 The light. The light was gone. She was gray.

01:09:11.960 They, their daughter Trista had already had COVID twice before she got the shot.

01:09:20.600 And after she got the shot, she should get two shots or, or one Karen.

01:09:25.720 The family is unsure. They know that she got one. Um, the doctor's office that was refusing to give,

01:09:33.160 uh, the records at first seem to have wiped their records clean. They have a, uh, documentation from

01:09:38.840 the insurance company that Trista visited the office, his doctor's office again, just a few days before

01:09:45.000 she died. And both times that she was in his office, even the time that they have her vaccine

01:09:51.080 card that states that she got the first initial COVID vaccine on her charts, it doesn't say anything

01:09:56.760 about it. So it's, they're essentially blank. It doesn't say anything that she got a vaccine.

01:10:01.080 So the family is suspicious that that last appointment they had, she had it just a few,

01:10:05.800 a few days before she passed that she may have gotten the second shot there, but we have no way to

01:10:10.920 prove it because the doctor is why it's not even necessary. Right. I mean, you tell me,

01:10:15.640 because it's not, no, I think we focus on that too much. I mean, it's very clear,

01:10:19.720 I think when it's within days, but in her case, you know, she had gotten the shot 112 days earlier

01:10:25.800 before she died. And what you point out in the film and what I've heard other honest doctors say

01:10:31.800 is you can get the shot. You can develop myocarditis as a result of the vaccine. And you, you don't

01:10:39.320 necessarily die of myocarditis. It can be in there and you don't know. And as you're

01:10:45.400 pointing out, if you knew it, there would be certain medical advisories against certain

01:10:50.120 behaviors and certain activities and around certain times of day. But what's happening is

01:10:54.520 people are walking around almost like ticking time bombs, not knowing that they have this problem,

01:10:59.800 not even knowing to screen for this problem, Taryn. So the, the proximity in days is not really

01:11:05.000 the governing criterion to look at when figuring out whether the vaccine caused injury.

01:11:10.920 No, it's not. And we know through various studies and various papers that, that doctors and scientists

01:11:16.840 have, have published that, you know, there's various things like myocarditis, blood clots,

01:11:23.720 kidney failure, all those various things are attributed to the COVID shot. And those are things

01:11:28.840 all of which that Trista had. And you know, I also want to point out the timeline too, with the shots.

01:11:34.760 And Dr. Peter McCullough talks about this, that with COVID, yes, you can, you know, have cardiac event

01:11:41.560 with COVID. And most studies have shown that that's within six weeks of the COVID shot, or excuse me,

01:11:48.680 of getting COVID. And also that the just barrage of, of deaths and myocarditis and all of the various

01:12:00.760 reactions, you know, all of this happened in 2021. After the vaccine rollout, it didn't happen in 2020,

01:12:09.000 whenever COVID came about. Yes, we had tragic COVID deaths, we had hospital protocol deaths. However,

01:12:15.720 you want to frame that, but the, you know, all of this myocarditis, the blood clots,

01:12:21.160 the passing away, the, the vaccine injuries, there's a lot of people's brain injuries as well

01:12:26.200 from these vaccines. Those all took place after the vaccine rollout. That one of those cases was

01:12:32.120 documented in, there was a New York Post article today talking about the DOJ seeking all these new

01:12:37.880 lawyers, eight new attorneys to defend the feds as vaccine injury cases go up. And indeed they chronicled

01:12:44.360 some of those brain injuries. There was, they, they, they mentioned a plaintiff in a Louisiana case

01:12:50.600 named Emma Berkey, a healthy 18 year old Nevada high school student. When she received the Johnson

01:12:56.600 and Johnson COVID vaccine in April, 2021 suffered a devastating brain injury. And she's had three brain

01:13:03.880 surgeries, thousands of hours of physical therapy. She still struggles to walk right and care for

01:13:08.600 herself alleges the lawsuit. The thing is, it's very hard to get any sort of redress,

01:13:15.160 any sort of compensation, help. I mean, Ernesto, what, what happened? I know your son is Ernesto.

01:13:22.200 Ernest, what happened with you when you went back to the doctors, when you started,

01:13:26.760 tried to contact anybody about what had happened to Junior?

01:13:29.960 The thing is, everybody turned their back, closed the doors on me. It wasn't until I

01:13:37.800 mentioned that I was going to drive to DC and try to get to the White House, try to get to Biden,

01:13:44.840 you know, to ask questions. And that's when Senator Ron Johnson found out about it. He called me

01:13:51.560 directly and we had a couple of zoom meetings. And that's when we ended up having the first round

01:13:58.040 table. And that's when I realized it wasn't just me and my son. It was thousands of other victims,

01:14:04.280 like little Maddie DeGuerre, Grant Dressing, Jessica Sutter, Dr. Joe Walscott. I mean,

01:14:10.920 I could go on and on. Unfortunately, this is affecting more people than they're letting us know.

01:14:19.240 I mean, I get phone calls, emails, text messages on a regular basis from people asking for help.

01:14:26.840 And like you said, they're saying that not everyone's being affected. Of course not. When

01:14:33.240 you're going to go destroy something, you're not going to roll it out and give the same thing to

01:14:38.120 everyone because if too many people are affected, they're not going to get people to, you know,

01:14:43.320 go stand up and get that shot. That's why it was like Russian roulette. It was just affecting so many

01:14:50.280 people because whatever they were doing, uh, like it, it was pick and choose what we were going to do,

01:14:57.960 what, what people they were going to attack. And, uh, like I said, it wasn't until then that, uh,

01:15:07.800 FEMA was the only one that was reaching out to me, trying to get me to change my son's death

01:15:12.200 certificate certificate so that it read COVID and they were trying to bribe me on that.

01:15:17.080 Can I ask you a question about that? Why was that? Is there any way they,

01:15:21.880 I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. Was there any way they wanted you to change the

01:15:25.080 designation because they thought it would lead to benefits that you, you couldn't get if you said it

01:15:30.440 it was a vaccine death? The thing in, in right after his, uh, he passed, you know, naturally I

01:15:38.280 didn't have insurance on my son because I thought I was going to go first. And I filed, someone told

01:15:43.640 me about FEMA, uh, funeral assistant program. So I filed and, uh, they denied me. They asked me for

01:15:50.600 everything, uh, autopsy and everything they asked me for. I gave to them and they turned around,

01:15:56.360 denied me, said he didn't die from, uh, COVID. I said, no, it was from the vaccine. And say,

01:16:02.520 they said, well, we can't help you. So I started speaking out at all these places I would go to.

01:16:08.120 And then they started contacting me. You know what, uh, if you would change

01:16:12.280 his death certificate, so it says, uh, COVID, we can pay you, uh, $10,000. I said, no, you know,

01:16:19.160 it's too late. I already buried my son with, you know, help from donations from everyone. And, uh,

01:16:25.400 I asked them destroy that and, you know, quit bothering me. And they kept every month calling,

01:16:31.160 bothering me, bugging me. And, uh, I kept telling them, no, they raised it up to $35,000.

01:16:37.720 And I said, no, my son's life was worth more than that. And I'm not going to disrespect my son like

01:16:42.920 that. And I'm not going to falsify documents for financial gain. And I just asked them, please leave

01:16:48.680 me alone. It wasn't until the lawsuit that we have for censorship, uh, they decided to

01:16:55.240 leave me alone. They quit bothering me because I'll bet. Yeah. Because they know what we're

01:17:00.600 trying to do. Yes, exactly. Ma'am. Ernest, what, what's life like now? You know, you,

01:17:06.760 you just lived with junior. What's your house like now? What's your life like now?

01:17:12.840 There is no life.

01:17:13.720 That's the truth. I, uh, I ask God all the time to, I tell him I'm ready to go home. I have nothing

01:17:28.200 else here. And, uh, I tell him, I tell God I'm tired. I want to go home already. But, uh, you know,

01:17:37.960 like I always said, you know, we all know that a lot of time the answer is no. Because, uh, I

01:17:44.920 figured he needs me here to fight this battle because I'm not just doing it for my son. I'm

01:17:50.920 doing it for all my vaccine injured because not enough people are standing up for them.

01:17:57.560 You know, medical, they need financial help or other medicals and living. Some people are

01:18:03.640 living in cars. Some people are trying to buy the medication so they can go get through another day.

01:18:10.120 And so I figured that's, that's the only purpose. I'm still here.

01:18:14.760 Oh, God bless you for it. I know the movie again, it's called shot dead. It features

01:18:20.280 Ernest driving around a truck with like a billboard on the side of it with the pictures of those

01:18:25.720 who have lost their lives. We believe because of this vaccine, because of this vaccine on,

01:18:32.040 on which the risks were not disclosed. And once, once the risk became obvious, they were denied

01:18:38.600 for far too long. And even to this day, downplayed by those in a position to know better.

01:18:43.880 Stand by you guys. I'm going to squeeze in a quick break and then I'm going to come back and

01:18:47.320 we're going to talk about what's happening with pregnant women, uh, including you mentioned,

01:18:51.800 you heard Taryn mentioned she was pregnant when her employer tried to get forced her to get the

01:18:56.760 vaccine. We interviewed Alison Williams of ESPN who quit because they tried to make her get the

01:19:01.320 vaccine and she wanted to have a baby. She was very worried about the risks. Um, well,

01:19:07.160 that worry was well-founded. It's not that other pregnant women haven't had the vaccine and gone

01:19:11.640 on to have healthy babies. It's just that some women had a very different experience and it should

01:19:16.440 be disclosed so that there can be informed, truly informed consent. Hey everyone. It's me,

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01:20:18.920 TV, go to join nn.com. So I just want to tell the audience, this is not in response to the movie

01:20:31.560 shot dead, but Pfizer did post a statement in late October on its website about some of these risks

01:20:37.480 that reads as follows. Myocarditis and pericarditis have occurred in some people who have received

01:20:43.400 the MRNA COVID-19 vaccines. They have occurred mostly, most commonly in adolescent males, 12

01:20:50.760 through 17 years of age. And most of these individuals symptoms began within a few weeks

01:20:55.800 following vaccination. The chance of having this occur is very low. You should seek medical attention

01:21:01.080 right away. If you or your child have any of the following symptoms after receiving the vaccine,

01:21:05.960 particularly during the two weeks after receiving a dose of the vaccine, chest pain, shortness of

01:21:10.360 breath, feelings of having a fast beating, fluttering or pounding heart. Um, notwithstanding

01:21:17.800 that you still got the Pfizer CEO out there talking about how they, this was their moonshot and they,

01:21:24.920 that they planned, they said we reached our moonshot with the COVID vaccine and he wrote,

01:21:28.680 and now we want to reach more because our patients are counting on us. I mean, don't bet on it.

01:21:33.880 I don't know that that's true at all, Albert. Uh, Taryn, let's talk about pregnant women because

01:21:39.960 there's been a real question about whether it's safe for pregnant women to take the vaccine. I

01:21:45.000 mentioned Alison Williams of ESPN. She came on the show and she quit ESPN because they tried to make

01:21:49.800 her. You feature in the documentary, uh, the sad story of a baby named Naomi White who only lived for

01:21:59.480 a day after her mother, Victoria carried her to term. Uh, here's thought 34 of her mom, Victoria,

01:22:06.200 talking about what happened. At the time I was working at a nursing home, I think it was,

01:22:12.920 and they gave us a deadline for the COVID vaccine, but they never like warned me or anything when I was

01:22:20.680 getting my vaccine, just told me I could get it. So I got it just to keep my job. She maybe cried one

01:22:28.920 time. And after that, like she, she laid there and I looked at her, she was looking at me. And then

01:22:35.560 like, it's like, she kept turning purple and purple and just wasn't getting enough oxygen.

01:22:40.760 And they let me give her a kiss. And they like took her away and said that, oh, she'll be fine.

01:22:47.720 She just needs oxygen and maybe some IV fluids.

01:22:53.080 Oh, I got a new picture.

01:22:57.640 When they put her in my arms, there's no chance.

01:23:01.240 Oh God, that is absolutely awful. Um, Taryn, I know you talked to doctors, you had Dr. Thorpe,

01:23:12.200 you mentioned, and you too, like Alison Williams wound up leaving your job. Was it with, uh,

01:23:19.320 it was covering golf. I know that because they wanted you to get the vaccine covering the PGA.

01:23:24.920 Yeah, I was working for the PGA tour at the time, and I went through a rigorous, uh,

01:23:29.880 vaccine exemption process for my religious exemption at the time. And, uh, they, there

01:23:35.960 ended up being a very small, uh, portion of us that did not get the vaccine. And they started

01:23:42.840 handing down discriminatory rules like masking and testing. And so I requested to continue working

01:23:48.760 in my home studio, like I had been doing for 19 months, um, until I had the baby. So I wouldn't have

01:23:54.360 to violate my sincerely held beliefs against the masking and the testing and be discriminated

01:23:59.320 against for not getting the vaccine. They said, no, they fired me and they continue to let my

01:24:04.600 immediate team work from home for at least a month after I was fired.

01:24:09.160 Wait, so who exactly fired you? The PGA tour?

01:24:11.640 The PGA tour, the PGA, the league itself. Yes.

01:24:14.760 That's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. It's not to say again that all pregnant women are

01:24:19.800 going to have this problem. It's just people should know that, that it has been documented by some

01:24:24.360 mothers. And what relief, if any, has Victoria and her family gotten?

01:24:31.240 They have not gotten any relief, but they have gotten some wonderful news that she is expecting

01:24:36.840 again. And so far, um, she feels good during this pregnancy, her, her last pregnancy, um, with Naomi,

01:24:44.200 that she ended up passing away. Tori said it never felt right from the beginning that she,

01:24:49.080 you know, had a lot of pain, the movements were different. She just knew that something was wrong.

01:24:54.920 And the doctors didn't pick up on the fact that she had a congenital diaphragmatic hernia, which was

01:25:00.760 a malformation. She was also, um, diagnosed with just a 10 centimeter umbilical cord, which umbilical

01:25:06.920 cords are supposed to be at least 30 centimeters long. And so that caused the, the birth to be very

01:25:12.440 traumatic. She kept getting pulled back into the birth canal and that further, um, amplified her

01:25:17.960 malformations and the diaphragmatic hernia. And all of this relates to the fact that, um, she had all

01:25:23.240 these birth malformations and this substance, this shot as Dr. Thorpe and many other, uh, doctors and

01:25:31.640 scientists who have looked into this had a chronicle in this film shot dead at shot dead.org that this is

01:25:38.360 a very inflammatory substance. Many vaccines actually are inflammatory. This they think is one of the most

01:25:44.200 inflammatory vaccines they've ever seen. And inflammation during pregnancy is very serious.

01:25:50.360 It causes death, uh, preterm death. It causes miscarriages and it causes malformations like

01:25:57.400 Tori, uh, it can cause. Um, and it's, uh, it's very serious, you know, inflammation in pregnancy is

01:26:04.360 something that, um, OBGYNs try to, you know, mitigate at all costs with pregnant women. That's why they

01:26:10.440 monitor you for all these various things like preeclampsia and things like that during your

01:26:14.600 pregnancy. Um, so yeah, it's very heartbreaking and we have to keep talking about it and we have to keep

01:26:19.400 sharing these stories because, um, they are now trying to push more of these types of shots on pregnant

01:26:24.840 women. Prior to COVID, it was considered unethical to test pregnant women and put them into clinical trials

01:26:31.880 for vaccinations. Well, after COVID and they essentially made the entire population into a

01:26:37.400 clinical trial, they have now put pregnant women through clinical trials for the new RSV vaccine,

01:26:42.520 which is an MRNA vaccine that is now approved on the market with very little,

01:26:47.480 if any safety and efficacy data. And so now women are walking into their OBGYNs office.

01:26:52.600 They're being told to get this COVID shot, this new RSV shot, along with the flu and the DTAP shot.

01:26:59.800 Wow. My gosh, it's scary. And it's, it's hard to know who to trust. You know,

01:27:05.080 it's hard to know who to trust with the collapse in faith in our public health institutions. I know

01:27:10.920 that what little fund the government has created for vaccine injuries has doled out almost nothing.

01:27:17.080 Some 96% of the claims have, have received zero and haven't even been reviewed. And the ones that

01:27:23.480 do get reviewed get a pittance. And so I know that you, Ernest, and families like you are trying to find

01:27:29.160 a way to hold these folks, the government and the vaccine manufacturers accountable. They're rolling

01:27:35.240 in money. And I noticed that all the families you chronicle in shot dead are not rolling in money.

01:27:41.320 Everyone in the film appears working class. They've got their financial struggles and probably didn't

01:27:47.640 know who the heck to call to try to help them. So thank you for making this movie shot dead. Ernest,

01:27:51.960 thank you. You are important. You are helping other people by telling your story. You do have a

01:27:57.640 purpose and junior would not want you to come home too soon. All the best to you. Thank you,

01:28:03.960 Taryn. And just so people know, just re please reiterate, they can get, they can watch the movie

01:28:08.600 by going to shot dead.org. That is correct. You can go to shot dead.org and you can watch the movie for

01:28:15.720 free on demand, share it with others. And you can also donate and contribute to the,

01:28:20.200 we, the Patriots USA litigation fund against Pfizer. That is who's representing the families

01:28:25.480 of Ernest and the Martins, um, in our film that we're going after Pfizer for this, especially

01:28:31.000 because we now know that thanks to Steve Kirsch and his organization, that these were adulterated.

01:28:36.200 They're, they contain contaminated gene sequences and therefore their veil of, um, you know,

01:28:42.840 being exempt from liability due to the EUA status is going to dissolve.

01:28:46.840 That's a game changer. That's been in the news, um, that there were a certain number of vials that,

01:28:51.480 that had a contamination problem. Thank you. Thank you both. All the best to you.

01:28:56.520 Thank you, ma'am. Before we leave ruthless is here tomorrow. Don't miss that.

01:29:04.040 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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