The Megyn Kelly Show - Disturbing Dem AG Candidate Texts, Soft Sentence For Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin, and the Left's Drift Toward Violence ｜ Ep. 1165

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00:01:01.420 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:01:06.940 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.860 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Monday.

00:01:16.860 There is a lot, a lot of news to get to today.

00:01:20.440 We've been reporting on the violent rhetoric.

00:01:22.220 I mean, I do struggle with that term, violent rhetoric.

00:01:26.740 It's like rhetoric calling for violence, glorifying, blessing, suggesting they're fine with violence.

00:01:35.660 I mean, like, I'm not sure if there's any, like, is there any way that you can say violent rhetoric?

00:01:40.220 I don't know, it's just to me, even if you say, like, go shoot him, whatever, it's just a point of, it bothers me.

00:01:46.640 Anyway, we've been reporting on the rhetoric coming from the left, which calls for violence, or blesses it, or glorifies it,

00:01:53.060 or seems absolutely fine with it in one shape or form, with a renewed sense of urgency.

00:01:58.240 That's because Charlie Kirk was assassinated on September 10th.

00:02:02.440 Let me ask you a question.

00:02:03.620 Okay, I'm going to ask you guys a question, something.

00:02:06.700 Here's my question.

00:02:09.260 Without looking it up, who is David Dutch?

00:02:14.560 Who is Jim Copenhaver?

00:02:18.780 Who is David Dutch?

00:02:19.960 Who is Jim Copenhaver?

00:02:21.040 Any idea?

00:02:22.140 You don't know.

00:02:23.160 You don't know because I didn't know until this morning, which means more than likely you don't know.

00:02:28.680 No offense, but I just mean I live in news and you have lives.

00:02:32.220 You know who they are?

00:02:33.620 They are the two other people who were shot in Butler, Pennsylvania, behind Donald Trump, along with Corey Compatori, who was killed.

00:02:44.380 Nobody knows their name.

00:02:46.260 Nobody knows those two names.

00:02:48.080 And yet they were both shot, along with Corey and Donald Trump, who was shot in the ear.

00:02:52.700 David was shot in the chest and the liver.

00:02:56.600 He also sustained broken ribs and required surgery.

00:02:59.340 Jim Copenhaver, by the way, David 57, Jim 74, was also critically injured.

00:03:06.280 He was shot in the triceps, plural, says the article I'm reading, and abdomen, according to The Guardian.

00:03:12.640 We don't even know their names.

00:03:16.300 So most people don't know Corey Compatori's name, who was killed, the firefighter behind Trump.

00:03:20.620 That's three.

00:03:21.980 And then if you include Trump, who was shot that day in the ear, four.

00:03:25.000 That's four Republicans shot, thanks to political violence, within the past, whatever, year and a half.

00:03:33.560 That was July of 24.

00:03:36.220 And then came Charlie.

00:03:38.080 And we know Charlie's name.

00:03:39.500 We know Trump's name.

00:03:40.920 Most people don't know those other three. 1.00

00:03:42.720 I'm sick of this shit. 1.00

00:03:43.940 And so is everybody else on the right and everyone else who is sane. 1.00

00:03:50.180 You know, they want they want to hold up Charlie like he was just just this one. 0.68

00:03:54.160 It was just some sick kid who took Charlie down. 0.97

00:03:57.300 Bull. 0.98

00:03:59.100 Bull.

00:03:59.660 We all watched the former president of the United States, the Republican nominee for president, get shot in the head, which is where your ear is, in the head in July of 2024.

00:04:12.460 And then we quickly moved on from the fact that three other Republicans, MAGA-supporting Republicans, were shot to that day.

00:04:21.780 Why don't we ever talk about them?

00:04:23.460 Truly, it's because the media memory holds anything bad that happens to Republicans.

00:04:31.540 And God forbid they're shot in an act of political violence.

00:04:36.180 Oh, hell yes.

00:04:37.100 That's getting memory hold.

00:04:38.660 And I'm sorry that we've been complicit.

00:04:42.060 You know, we were all focused on Donald Trump.

00:04:44.680 And obviously, Corey, who lost his life and his dear family.

00:04:48.820 But we moved on from these poor other two really quickly.

00:04:55.240 And I was just thinking about them this weekend because I was like, what what happened with them?

00:04:58.780 How are they?

00:04:59.380 They're said to have recovered.

00:05:01.040 I mean, I'm sure there's only so much recovering you do when you've been shot.

00:05:04.020 It sounds like multiple times.

00:05:06.760 But they, too, were victims of political violence.

00:05:10.560 In an incident that the left, like literally Joy Reid, Michael Steele, who used to be the head of the RNC, on camera openly, Keith Olbermann, speculating didn't happen.

00:05:25.440 Remember that, like, it was some sort of an op.

00:05:29.000 Trump didn't really get shot.

00:05:30.880 What what did he do?

00:05:31.780 Did did he have, like, David Copperfield there, like, creating fake victims, actual civilians behind Trump?

00:05:42.000 Like, what what how did he manage that?

00:05:43.680 They just completely decided to forget and ignore the other two civilians who were killed.

00:05:48.780 Sorry, one other civilian who was killed and two others in addition who were shot.

00:05:52.780 So four people shot that day.

00:05:54.540 And a year later, from the same vantage point, an unprotected roof, we lose Charlie.

00:06:00.700 We all watched the former president of the United States, the Republican nominee for president, get shot in the head, which is where your ear is in the head in July of 2024.

00:06:13.200 And then we quickly moved on from the fact that three other Republicans, MAGA supporting Republicans, were shot to that day.

00:06:22.480 Why don't we ever talk about them?

00:06:23.920 Truly, it's because the media memory holes anything bad that happens to Republicans and God forbid they're shot in an act of political violence.

00:06:36.620 Oh, hell yes.

00:06:37.480 That's getting memory hold.

00:06:38.960 And I'm sorry that we've been complicit.

00:06:41.380 You know, we were all focused on Donald Trump.

00:06:45.240 And obviously, Corey, who lost his life and his dear family.

00:06:50.080 But we moved on from these poor other two really quickly.

00:06:55.640 And I was just thinking about them this weekend because I was like, what what happened with them?

00:06:59.200 How are they?

00:06:59.820 They're said to have recovered.

00:07:01.460 I mean, I'm sure there's only so much recovering you do when you've been shot.

00:07:04.240 It sounds like multiple times, but they, too, were victims of political violence in an incident that the left, like literally Joy Reid, Michael Steele, who used to be the head of the RNC, on camera, openly Keith Olbermann speculating didn't happen.

00:07:25.880 Remember that, like, it was some sort of an op.

00:07:29.420 Trump didn't really get shot.

00:07:31.300 What what did he do?

00:07:32.220 Did did he have, like, David Copperfield there?

00:07:37.340 Like, creating fake victims, actual civilians behind Trump?

00:07:42.200 Like, what?

00:07:43.140 How did he manage that?

00:07:44.100 They just completely decided to forget and ignore the other two civilians who were killed.

00:07:49.480 Sorry, one other civilian who was killed and two others in addition who were shot.

00:07:53.240 So four people shot that day.

00:07:55.040 And a year later, from the same vantage point, an unprotected roof, we lose Charlie.

00:08:01.160 I mean, truly, like, a year and a couple of months later.

00:08:06.280 That's one of the things that's so awful about the Charlie shooting is it happened 14 months after the Trump shooting.

00:08:11.960 Charlie and I spoke about the Trump shooting.

00:08:13.980 We talked about the security concerns.

00:08:15.620 We talked all about it.

00:08:16.820 But I just think about that now.

00:08:20.420 If only he had known, you know, if either of us had known back then that Charlie would lose his life 14 months later.

00:08:27.000 And also that video of Charlie celebrating Trump's election in November of 24, you know, which went so viral.

00:08:33.380 And we talked about it on my show when he visited about he was just, you know, glory, glory be to God.

00:08:39.680 And he, you could see the tears in his eyes, the relief on his face, the near disbelief, you know, because it's just, he told me directly he didn't think they would let it happen.

00:08:49.860 He didn't think they'd let it happen.

00:08:51.240 He really thought they'd take out Trump.

00:08:54.760 He had no idea that he would be the one who would be taken out less than a year after we had that conversation.

00:09:02.540 And now what we have, now what we, what we have is like a rash of growing acts of political violence, threats of political violence, and blessings of political violence by the left over and over and over.

00:09:21.200 Some have asked me whether I thought Charlie's death would be like a tripwire, you know, that set this off.

00:09:26.240 Some have argued it was the murder of Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare CEO by Luigi Mangione.

00:09:33.900 I mean, I think you can put it back further than that.

00:09:37.320 I really think if there's a tripwire, it was what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania in July of 2024.

00:09:43.560 When four people became the victims of an assassin's bullet motivated by politics, by hate.

00:09:53.280 And we've never gotten fully to the bottom of that case.

00:09:56.240 We still don't know anywhere near what we need to know about that shooter.

00:10:00.760 But I mean, a man is dead.

00:10:03.360 Three others were shot, and we moved on.

00:10:05.920 And then there's been a slow but steady escalation ever since.

00:10:09.580 It's only been, my God, what is, it's October.

00:10:13.780 So we're going to July, August, September.

00:10:16.440 So we've got, what, 16 months.

00:10:19.900 That's 16 months.

00:10:21.900 Trump, Corey.

00:10:24.560 Again, the other two victims whose names I don't yet have memorized.

00:10:27.560 David Dutch, 57.

00:10:28.980 James Jim Copenhaver, 74.

00:10:32.820 And then Charlie.

00:10:33.760 And what we saw this weekend was more.

00:10:37.460 Still more.

00:10:39.980 ICE is under attack in several cities in this country.

00:10:43.820 You know, I just tweeted this out this morning.

00:10:45.160 I'm going to get to ICE in detail.

00:10:46.980 But let me just give you the headline.

00:10:50.420 In January of 2024, do you remember this?

00:10:54.220 Greg Abbott down in Texas was putting up barbed wire, razor wire, they call it, down on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande to prevent illegals from swimming across the river.

00:11:08.620 They were dying.

00:11:09.240 Illegals die all the time in that river.

00:11:10.900 It's dangerous.

00:11:13.200 And he didn't want that.

00:11:15.260 He didn't want illegals making it to shore. 1.00

00:11:16.940 He didn't want them not making it to shore.

00:11:18.320 He wanted to create a deterrent so that they wouldn't even try.

00:11:21.660 So he put up a bunch of razor wire along the Texas border by the water.

00:11:27.920 And the feds sued Texas.

00:11:30.500 They sued Greg Abbott, Joe Biden's feds.

00:11:32.500 It's still January 2024.

00:11:33.560 He hadn't, you know, he hadn't yet passed the baton to Kamala for the race.

00:11:38.920 And he was still a Republican or sorry, Democratic nominee.

00:11:41.680 They went to court and they argued that immigration enforcement is uniquely the job of the feds.

00:11:47.900 Under the Constitution, it is uniquely the job of the federal government.

00:11:51.660 And you cannot have states interfering in how the federal government goes about enforcing the immigration laws.

00:11:59.500 Now, we all rolled our eyes because what was really happening there was the feds were not enforcing immigration laws.

00:12:05.000 And Texas, which had a right to defend itself from an invasion, was trying to do what it could.

00:12:10.780 But they went into court in front of this same Supreme Court, which has six conservatives and three liberals.

00:12:19.080 And Joe Biden won that argument, convincing the court that immigration enforcement is uniquely the job of the feds.

00:12:29.000 And you cannot have the states interfering or throwing up obstacles that would make it tougher for the feds to do their jobs state to state.

00:12:38.980 You got these regulations in this state, you got those regulations in that state.

00:12:42.540 No, the high court said this is a federal government thing.

00:12:46.520 States stay out of it, basically.

00:12:49.900 And now what do we have happening in cities across America from Portland to Chicago to L.A.?

00:12:57.820 You have Trump sending in ICE to go try to clean up Joe Biden's mess.

00:13:05.760 Speaking of the administration that would not enforce immigration law. 0.87

00:13:08.980 Try to clean up that mess as the 10 to 20 million illegals he allowed into this country who have been raping and killing America's citizens. 1.00

00:13:20.920 To name a few. 0.99

00:13:22.360 Don't get me started on the child molestation.

00:13:25.340 So Trump is trying to get these people the hell out.

00:13:27.900 The drunk driving is off the charts.

00:13:30.700 Trying to get them the hell out by sending ICE.

00:13:32.880 It's literally their job into these cities to go get the bad guys.

00:13:37.760 The worst first, Tom Homan has said.

00:13:39.940 Not going after, at first, the illegals who are just here illegally and that's their only crime. 1.00

00:13:45.360 Which, by the way, it is a crime.

00:13:47.260 And by the way, they should be deported.

00:13:48.980 And also, there's majority support for deporting them.

00:13:51.960 But Tom Homan and Trump are realistic men.

00:13:54.320 They've said we're going to start worst first.

00:13:55.680 So they're going after these people who have multiple felonies on their records in addition to being here illegally.

00:14:04.980 Who the hell wants to keep child molesters in this country? 0.98

00:14:07.960 We don't even want ours. 0.96

00:14:09.300 Never mind Venezuela's. 0.95

00:14:11.940 And they're going into these cities.

00:14:14.360 A couple of cities.

00:14:15.040 They're going to a lot of cities.

00:14:15.820 But they're having trouble in some of these blue cities because of Antifa and left-wing activists who don't want them there.

00:14:24.680 Who think this is like a point of pride to try to harass ICE.

00:14:28.740 And we have seen in city after city, including, it's not just these, you know, in these blue states like California or Oregon.

00:14:36.100 Down in Texas, we saw ICE officers getting harassed in Dallas.

00:14:42.580 And that's where somebody, this man, opened fire on them.

00:14:48.020 He was killed by officials.

00:14:50.160 Opened fire on them trying to kill ICE officers. 0.78

00:14:53.780 But he was a bad shot. 0.96

00:14:54.820 He wound up killing detainees. 0.89

00:14:56.220 But he was trying to kill ICE officers.

00:14:59.100 So we have seen this.

00:15:00.400 They were throwing cinder blocks at ICE officers in Los Angeles.

00:15:07.820 And now we're seeing them try to ram the officers with their cars in places like Chicago and Portland.

00:15:15.800 Setting off fireworks.

00:15:17.440 We actually just came up with a short list of it.

00:15:21.660 Kayla, I'll give you a few that we've seen.

00:15:24.300 This is, first of all, DHS in August said that ICE agents have faced a 1,000% increase in assaults.

00:15:30.400 Over the 2024 totals.

00:15:32.620 1,000%.

00:15:33.500 In June in Portland, a rioter picked up and threw a smoke grenade at federal officers, striking one in the forearm and abdomen.

00:15:40.180 How would you like to get hit by a smoke grenade in the abdomen just for doing your job?

00:15:47.440 I don't know about you, but I sit here at this desk.

00:15:49.300 Most of the time I have to do my job.

00:15:51.260 Nobody's throwing smoke bombs at me.

00:15:53.960 I don't have to worry about my intestines getting blown up or burned.

00:15:58.020 That's what these guys have to do, ICE, to try to get rid of these bad guys.

00:16:02.040 Also in June, a rioter was attempting to damage equipment at the ICE facility.

00:16:05.960 DHS officers took the subject into custody, who resisted arrest, grabbed an officer in the genitals, and kicked officers in the groin and the legs.

00:16:14.020 Now charged with assault.

00:16:15.300 In Dallas, I mentioned, in September, a sniper opened fire from a nearby rooftop.

00:16:19.760 It only hit the detainees, but the bullet casings were found with anti-ICE messages.

00:16:24.800 The media reported, we don't know the motive.

00:16:26.740 It literally said anti-ICE on the bullet casing.

00:16:29.440 We don't know.

00:16:30.060 And then you heard more about this guy's writings beforehand, and it was literally like, I hate ICE.

00:16:34.760 I waited.

00:16:35.620 You know I listen to NPR Up First podcast every day.

00:16:38.140 I waited for them to update their, oh, it's ambiguous, we don't know.

00:16:40.540 It says anti-ICE, but who knows.

00:16:41.800 They never updated it.

00:16:43.220 They just moved on.

00:16:44.140 That's how it works.

00:16:45.600 Eh.

00:16:46.480 Leave people confused.

00:16:47.360 I mean, the day two reporting on it was so, it was terrible. 0.98

00:16:50.840 It was explicit on how anti-ICE the guy was, and how he was like, I really hope I kill ICE officers. 0.92

00:16:56.840 I mean, it was explicit.

00:16:57.800 No, no follow-up report.

00:16:59.340 We'll just leave it out there floating.

00:17:00.740 Ambiguous.

00:17:01.700 We don't really know the motive.

00:17:04.580 August, there was a bomb threat on the facility.

00:17:09.520 An unknown male subject, later identified as Bratton Dean Wilkinson, a 36-year-old U.S. citizen,

00:17:15.120 arrived at the entrance of the Dallas field office, claimed to have a bomb in his backpack,

00:17:19.540 showed the security officer what he claimed to be a detonator on his wrist.

00:17:23.720 The officer called 911.

00:17:27.300 Alvarado, Texas, at the ICE facility there on July 4th, a group of left-wing extremists

00:17:33.260 coordinated an ambush on the Prairieland Detention Center.

00:17:36.980 My God, did you even hear about that one?

00:17:58.660 I mean, that was July 4th.

00:18:02.160 That's 15 people attacked an ICE facility, coordinating an ambush with fireworks, opening fire, wounding

00:18:12.160 a cop in the neck?

00:18:13.440 Jeez.

00:18:15.120 California.

00:18:15.800 They conducted an ICE raid on a farm, and one person fired at ICE agents with a gun when

00:18:26.260 they, pursuant to a warrant, raided a California marijuana farm.

00:18:32.440 ICE outside of a San Francisco courthouse.

00:18:35.520 They went to try to arrest.

00:18:37.880 What these illegals do is they cross the border, and when our guys catch them at the border, 1.00

00:18:42.140 they don't always turn them right around.

00:18:45.240 They'll say, I'm claiming asylum.

00:18:46.560 I'm claiming asylum.

00:18:47.400 So they'll say, okay, here's your court date.

00:18:48.660 Show up for the asylum hearing.

00:18:50.220 And nine times out of ten, they never show up.

00:18:51.940 They just stay in the country illegally. 0.99

00:18:53.280 That's what's been happening, and nobody ever goes to search for them.

00:18:56.120 Trump didn't really in his first administration, and Biden definitely didn't.

00:18:59.440 He wanted them here.

00:19:00.820 But now Trump 2.0 is trying to go find them.

00:19:03.000 And what better way to find them than being near the courthouse facility when they show up

00:19:08.160 for the asylum hearing?

00:19:09.420 Because guess what?

00:19:10.120 But if it gets denied, they're out of here.

00:19:12.580 And frankly, we don't even need to wait for it to be denied, because you don't have a

00:19:15.840 right to stay just because you say the word asylum.

00:19:18.980 A lot of these people didn't raise it properly.

00:19:21.060 They didn't do it at a point of entry.

00:19:23.280 So ICE has gotten smart.

00:19:25.840 They're showing up to these courthouses where these so-called asylum hearings are happening. 0.99

00:19:30.780 And in August, a mob of up to 20 anti-ICE protesters swarmed and attacked agents outside

00:19:37.540 of this courthouse.

00:19:38.360 One cafea-clad agitator, allegedly armed with a knife, threatening to stab an officer and

00:19:44.560 go after his family.

00:19:46.540 Nice.

00:19:47.220 That's what these guys have to deal with just to clean up Joe Biden's mess.

00:19:50.880 Knoxville, Tennessee.

00:19:52.100 In August, Olivia G. 1.00

00:19:54.460 Wilkins, 24, attempted to run over a Border Patrol agent who was in the process of arresting

00:19:59.640 criminal illegals.

00:20:00.880 Broadview, Illinois.

00:20:01.820 This is what's happening right now.

00:20:05.360 In September, four rioters were arrested by Homeland Security investigations for obstruction

00:20:11.140 and assault of a federal officer.

00:20:13.360 Los Angeles.

00:20:14.120 We talked about that in June during a Border Patrol operation.

00:20:18.340 One guy donned a mask and threw cinder blocks at federal officers and their vehicles, injuring

00:20:22.740 an agent.

00:20:23.380 Here, you can see him.

00:20:24.740 Here he is.

00:20:25.220 Look, he wasn't the only one either, by the way.

00:20:29.160 We saw multiple people throwing bricks at ICE vehicles as they went by.

00:20:33.980 That could literally be fatal.

00:20:37.380 That could easily kill the ICE officers.

00:20:40.340 Oh, did you hear the left condemn it?

00:20:41.980 No.

00:20:42.380 They'll only tell you that DHS is bad and ICE is bad and that they need to go.

00:20:48.220 So now, now in Illinois, things escalating this weekend.

00:20:56.080 Per DHS, they've made more than 1,000 arrests, including, this is of the bad guys, illegals, 1.00

00:21:01.760 pedophiles, child abusers, kidnappers, gang members, and armed robbers.

00:21:06.980 One guy, Rafael Alberto Tolentino Martinez, alleged to be a criminal illegal alien from Mexico

00:21:12.860 with convictions for aggravated domestic battery of a three-year-old.

00:21:16.780 Great.

00:21:17.060 Another guy, Pedro Avendano Andres, alleged to be a criminal illegal alien from Mexico

00:21:23.100 with previous arrests for domestic battery, citing, causing a circumstance that would

00:21:28.000 endanger a child.

00:21:29.980 Another guy, Aziz Kamal, alleged to be a deportable, lawful permanent resident, though not yet a

00:21:36.100 citizen, with charges for rape in the second degree, indecent liberties, assault in the second

00:21:40.980 degree, and an arrest for sex offender registration violation.

00:21:45.200 Goodbye.

00:21:46.360 Get out.

00:21:47.060 Why does J.B. Pritzker want these people to stay?

00:21:50.440 Tell me that.

00:21:51.780 That's what ICE is trying to do.

00:21:53.380 Get people like that out of our homeland.

00:21:56.760 Go home. 1.00

00:21:58.440 You're Mexico's problem. 1.00

00:22:00.000 Or you ought to be.

00:22:01.120 Why do we have to deal with it?

00:22:02.560 We have plenty of criminals of our own.

00:22:04.680 We don't need to deal with Mexico's, too. 1.00

00:22:06.140 We have seen multiple antagonistic attacks on ICE in Chicago.

00:22:14.800 We're seeing the protesters surround them.

00:22:17.840 This is from September 26th.

00:22:19.520 And we have the soundbites of the protesters screaming at them.

00:22:22.500 Let's play that.

00:22:23.120 Let's play that.

00:22:24.620 Arrest ICE!

00:22:27.020 Arrest ICE!

00:22:28.100 Arrest ICE!

00:22:29.540 Arrest ICE! 1.00

00:22:31.020 Shoot ICE! 1.00

00:22:32.660 Shoot ICE! 1.00

00:22:33.460 Shoot the fucker! 1.00

00:22:34.660 Shoot the fucker! 1.00

00:22:35.700 They're pounding on an ICE car. 1.00

00:22:50.020 He can't move. 1.00

00:22:50.860 Fuck you! 1.00

00:22:53.080 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:22:59.160 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:23:00.700 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:23:02.460 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:23:03.700 They won't let him move. 1.00

00:23:05.200 I believe that we will win!

00:23:07.920 I believe that we will win!

00:23:11.320 I believe that we will win!

00:23:14.740 I believe that we will win!

00:23:18.200 I believe that we will win!

00:23:19.920 I believe that we will win! 1.00

00:23:21.520 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:23:23.160 Fuck this pig! 1.00

00:23:24.320 They're literally trying to push the front grill of this SUV backward. 1.00

00:23:29.160 Oh my God!

00:23:33.060 This is happening in Broadview, Illinois, which is about 12 miles outside of Chicago.

00:23:39.060 You heard the chance, arrest ICE! 0.97

00:23:42.140 Shoot ICE! 1.00

00:23:43.400 Shoot the effer! 1.00

00:23:45.320 F you! 1.00

00:23:46.240 They're screaming, shame! 1.00

00:23:47.400 F this pig! 1.00

00:23:48.700 I believe we will win! 1.00

00:23:51.600 Two were arrested, one of whom was carrying a firearm.

00:23:54.840 That's what ICE is dealing with in trying to get rid of child molesters and rapists and batterers of three-year-olds.

00:24:02.760 These guys go out there, half of them have those cafea scarves on, chanting, I believe we will win!

00:24:09.320 Why wouldn't you believe that?

00:24:10.420 We've had how many years of unenforced immigration law?

00:24:13.180 You've got all of Illinois government on your side.

00:24:17.800 J.B. Pritzker would like to keep those people in his state, apparently. 0.96

00:24:20.240 He loves, I guess, batterers of three-year-olds, pedophiles and child abusers.

00:24:26.760 Why else would you be giving ICE a hard time?

00:24:29.740 Why wouldn't you be rolling out the red carpet for them to get these people out of your state, J.B.? 0.57

00:24:36.240 On Saturday, October 4th, Border Patrol agents were rammed.

00:24:47.560 They were rammed.

00:24:48.580 They had cars rammed into their vehicles that they use, ICE.

00:24:53.340 See this?

00:24:53.940 We're showing you.

00:24:54.880 Another car rams into an ICE car, and the Border Patrol agents wound up getting into a confrontation with an armed woman whom they then shot in self-defense.

00:25:07.100 She was fine.

00:25:07.980 Apparently, she drove herself to the hospital for treatment of her wounds.

00:25:12.420 Sorry, this is a separate incident.

00:25:13.800 It's not the incident, but it was something like this.

00:25:17.120 None of the ICE officers were seriously injured as a result of this woman ramming her car into them, but it's a problem.

00:25:24.820 I mean, for the grace of God.

00:25:27.380 The woman, a U.S. citizen identified as Marimar Martinez, was armed with a semi-automatic weapon and drove herself to the hospital for treatment.

00:25:34.220 She was discharged and taken into custody by the FBI.

00:25:38.100 Good.

00:25:38.900 Another person accused of ramming into ICE vehicles, Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz, he's also been taken into custody in Chicago.

00:25:45.520 These guys are just trying to do their job.

00:25:49.400 They're just trying to do their job. 0.99

00:25:52.980 Smoke bombs in the stomach, having knives pulled on them, having guns fired at them, having cars rammed them, having their families threatened, being called pigs and calls to shoot them. 0.82

00:26:06.980 Now, ire, anger, outrage, being stirred up against them by basically every Democrat in America as they try to get rid of people like the three I just read to you. 0.71

00:26:19.200 This woman, this Martinez woman, who got shot but is fine apparently, was named in an intelligence bulletin just last week for allegedly doxing agents.

00:26:32.700 She wanted them dead.

00:26:33.980 That's obvious. 0.92

00:26:34.580 Why would you dox them?

00:26:35.380 Why would you show up with a gun?

00:26:36.620 Why would you ram your car into them? 0.99

00:26:38.920 Obviously, this woman wants them dead. 1.00

00:26:40.840 She wrote, hey to all my gang, let's fuck those motherfuckers up. 1.00

00:26:45.020 Don't let them take anyone. 1.00

00:26:46.440 Okay, enjoy prison, madam. 1.00

00:26:49.280 Great.

00:26:50.480 How's it going so far, your little enforcement attempts? 0.96

00:26:54.360 I hope she rots. 0.82

00:26:55.540 I really do. 0.99

00:26:56.920 I can't wait to see what happens to her.

00:26:59.420 It doesn't usually end well.

00:27:02.640 A life of crime.

00:27:04.640 Like, what is she?

00:27:05.840 She's the good guy? 0.97

00:27:06.540 She considers herself underdog there to save the day with her gun and her vehicle, which she's going to use to try to kill people? 1.00

00:27:13.980 Was that the goal?

00:27:15.460 Because she easily could be charged with attempted murder.

00:27:17.280 We'll see what the charges are against her.

00:27:20.060 Have not yet heard whether or not she denies these charges.

00:27:23.200 Seems to me she's proud of them.

00:27:26.700 And then, okay, we'll get to this in a second.

00:27:29.080 Then you've got Portland that we've, every week, we talk more about what they're doing to the cops there with the people coming outside of the facility, trying to harass the ICE agents.

00:27:43.140 Oh, and by the way, there was video over the weekend of Christy Noem and some of the ICE agents trying to get into a federal facility, or was it a state facility?

00:27:52.800 I think it must have been, it was a state hall, to use the bathroom.

00:27:56.300 They're only human.

00:27:57.740 And the people who ran the building said, no, get out.

00:28:01.580 You can't use the bathroom.

00:28:03.080 So this is what our ICE agents are up against, literally just trying to relieve themselves. 0.99

00:28:06.560 And the state of Illinois is saying, tough shit, find someplace else to go, not here. 0.99

00:28:15.320 And now it's apparently policy. 0.98

00:28:17.860 Apparently the state of Illinois has made a decision not to help ICE agents in any way, shape, or form, not even as human beings, in offering them a place to use a facility if they need to.

00:28:29.280 That's what it's come to.

00:28:30.280 All right, and on top of all that, there is nonstop lawfare.

00:28:37.500 It's happening in basically all those cities, definitely in Portland and in Los Angeles.

00:28:42.400 We are seeing lawfare to try to stop ICE.

00:28:47.380 But before I get to the lawfare, I'm just going to put a pin in that, okay, for a second, because the reason I'm outlining all this violence against ICE is because it is part of a pattern.

00:28:57.640 Okay, I started with Butler.

00:29:01.220 We talked about Charlie.

00:29:03.300 I mentioned Brian Thompson of UnitedHealthcare.

00:29:06.820 And now I just did the ICE attacks, the threats up 1,000% over just last year.

00:29:12.620 And I listed them for you.

00:29:14.280 You don't have to imagine.

00:29:15.440 It's much more persuasive when people hear the actual events.

00:29:18.860 You don't have to listen to Megyn Kelly summarize.

00:29:21.200 It's happening.

00:29:22.100 I just gave you the evidence.

00:29:23.420 It is happening in city after city.

00:29:25.600 And it's escalating, as we saw in Broadview, Illinois, this past weekend.

00:29:30.820 And I'll round back to the lawfare.

00:29:32.720 But before I leave the escalating violence, we've got to talk about what happened in Virginia and what happened with this Supreme Court justice would-be assassin.

00:29:45.140 And I'm going to go over both of those in detail.

00:29:48.240 Just a quick word on the Supreme Court assassin.

00:29:50.800 Listen, this guy traveled across the country, bunch of weapons, had researched exactly how to kill a Supreme Court justice, apparently had plans to kill multiple, not just Brett Kavanaugh.

00:30:04.580 And keep in mind, this was after the Dobbs decision, which reversed Roe v. Wade, had been leaked, obviously by a Supreme Court clerk or possibly even justice, to Politico.

00:30:16.240 My money is on the left-wing Supreme Court clerk who had a long history in working on choice issues, as the left would describe it.

00:30:23.760 But in any event, we never found out because Chief Justice John Roberts let the Supreme Court marshal do the investigation, and she never investigates things like this.

00:30:32.020 And surprise, surprise, she didn't come up with a conclusion.

00:30:34.180 He knows.

00:30:35.300 There is no way Chief Justice Roberts doesn't know who the leak was and is covering—he's covering.

00:30:40.400 But that's the only thing that makes sense, because now we have a new administration.

00:30:43.240 There's no way Kash Patel and Dan Bongino would not like to get in there if given an invitation to actually do a real investigation.

00:30:50.140 Clearly, they haven't been invited, and because of separation of powers, they'd really kind of have to be. 0.92

00:30:54.520 So in any event, Dobbs was leaked, and it almost got Brett Kavanaugh killed, and the left didn't give two shits about that either.

00:31:02.800 Let's not forget, shortly before that, we had Chuck Schumer on the steps of the Supreme Court saying,

00:31:07.320 you will reap the whirlwind.

00:31:08.820 And, okay, so this guy travels cross-country.

00:31:14.040 He actually gets into Kavanaugh's neighborhood.

00:31:16.900 He's got the whole plan.

00:31:18.460 He's been online planning it for weeks, and he sees the marshals out in front of Kavanaugh's house and only then decides,

00:31:28.600 I guess I can't do it.

00:31:30.120 He fully understood if he went up to any door or window of Kavanaugh's home, it was going to be suicide by cop.

00:31:36.320 And so he chickened out. 0.88

00:31:38.400 He was ready to kill Kavanaugh, but wasn't ready to die himself.

00:31:42.260 So he wound up calling 911 and effectively turning himself in upon spotting law enforcement.

00:31:47.820 Gee, do we give him a medal?

00:31:50.340 That's basically what just happened.

00:31:52.960 And again, I'll round back to discuss this in more detail, but this guy was just given truly,

00:31:59.080 we say that term, a slap on the wrist by these judges all the time.

00:32:02.360 It truly, he could have gone to jail for life.

00:32:04.760 The feds wanted at least 30 years.

00:32:08.400 Here he is right around the time that he committed the crime.

00:32:13.660 He got eight years, eight.

00:32:16.420 With good behavior, he's going to be out in four, in four.

00:32:21.820 I mean, that is so close to the time in which he committed the crime.

00:32:26.940 These justices are still actively in danger from this guy.

00:32:31.020 He'll still be monitored, I'm sure.

00:32:32.400 Okay, great, I feel better.

00:32:35.480 Kavanaugh's wife and his mother attended the sentencing hearing.

00:32:39.740 Obviously, Kavanaugh wasn't going to go himself.

00:32:42.240 And when they heard that eight years, they got up and walked out of that courtroom.

00:32:46.520 Can you imagine the disgust they're feeling?

00:32:51.020 He has kids.

00:32:53.060 And by the way, again, he appears to have been attempting or plotting to murder multiple justices.

00:32:58.660 Who was next?

00:32:59.840 Amy Coney Barrett?

00:33:00.640 She was in the Dobbs majority.

00:33:03.120 How many of her six kids had to die so that this guy could have his way?

00:33:08.840 And I'm sure you heard morning update today, AM update.

00:33:11.560 He's now claimed to be trans and it's working. 0.97

00:33:15.540 That sympathy play worked on this absurd, ridiculous Biden-appointed judge. 0.98

00:33:23.980 You know, there's nothing. 0.85

00:33:25.920 The left-wing media, they're not upset.

00:33:28.260 No one's saying this is an outrage.

00:33:30.240 Do you think they'd be saying that if somebody did this in an opinion that was going to uphold Roe v. Wade,

00:33:37.120 that got leaked to National Review, and then some right-wing nut went out there plotting to murder Sotomayor and Elena Kagan,

00:33:50.520 or, you know, in today's court, Ketanji Brown-Jackson, do you really think the left would just be totally silent about the fact that what should have been a 30 years to life sentence wound up being eight, likely out in four?

00:34:05.220 However, they don't care. 0.99

00:34:09.480 They don't give a shit because it's our people. 0.99

00:34:14.140 It's the same way we don't know David Dutch and Jim Copenhaver, the same way they don't know Corey Comparatori. 0.99

00:34:20.180 They don't care that they were shot.

00:34:22.620 They celebrated that Charlie was killed.

00:34:26.080 The polls show us more than one-third of young leftists believe in political violence, including assassination. 0.99

00:34:35.220 They don't give a shit that ICE is being shot at, nearly killed, assaulted on a daily basis. 0.99

00:34:42.700 They don't care that Kavanaugh and every Supreme Court justice now, in four years or less, are actively going to have to worry for their safety. 0.99

00:34:52.380 And let's not forget, sometimes justices do retire.

00:34:56.320 I hate to say it out loud, but Clarence Thomas is getting kind of old.

00:34:59.440 Love him. Don't want him to go anywhere.

00:35:01.080 I'm just saying, they'll still have protection, but will it be the same level as when they were sitting justices?

00:35:07.040 Will people like this nut forget what they did when they ruled in the majority and Dobbs? 0.99

00:35:13.660 The left wing doesn't give a shit. 1.00

00:35:15.660 Chuck Schumer, you'll reap the whirlwind. 1.00

00:35:18.760 They don't care.

00:35:19.760 They're creating the circumstances. 0.99

00:35:22.320 Fascist, fascist, fascist. 0.99

00:35:24.360 Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. 0.98

00:35:25.660 Then we saw, we saw fascist written on the Charlie Kirk assassination casings.

00:35:34.140 And what do we see within two weeks?

00:35:36.960 Randy Weingarten, the head of the teachers union, the second largest in the United States, come out with a book.

00:35:42.940 Like something about how fascists harass parents and they're bad.

00:35:47.300 Literally.

00:35:47.820 By the way, we checked the New York Times bestseller list.

00:35:51.420 She made number 10.

00:35:52.780 She's barely squeaked on.

00:35:54.680 Guess what we saw after her listing?

00:35:56.640 She had the asterisk.

00:35:58.200 They call it a dagger.

00:35:59.240 It looks like a dagger on there.

00:36:00.600 That means she engaged in bulk sales. 0.97

00:36:03.500 That means she probably pressured some of her favorite groups to buy her book so she could make the list. 0.99

00:36:09.360 This disgusting, thin-skinned, small person. 1.00

00:36:11.820 So her stupid book about fascists, which is winding up on bullet casings killing us, makes the Times bestseller list, despite the fact that it was bulk sales. 1.00

00:36:22.500 The Times shouldn't allow bulk sales to make the seller list. 1.00

00:36:25.100 They shouldn't.

00:36:25.840 They shouldn't allow it.

00:36:27.560 She basically bought her way onto the list. 1.00

00:36:30.600 That's what it shows.

00:36:32.720 Like, don't ever forget to check that.

00:36:34.720 When you see the little dagger, the person effectively bought their way on the list.

00:36:39.340 And let me tell you, I know how they do it.

00:36:41.020 I did not do it.

00:36:42.400 But I know how it's done because I know a lot of people in news.

00:36:46.200 And generally, they'll say, oh, I'll come and I'll do a book signing at your event.

00:36:51.720 You know, if you'll just buy 3,000 books or some of the really rich TV personalities would buy 50,000 copies themselves.

00:37:01.540 Seriously.

00:37:02.680 10,000 copies themselves.

00:37:05.200 And lo and behold, that'll get you on the list.

00:37:07.260 And you can say you're a New York Times bestseller.

00:37:08.760 Randy Weingarten, of course, that's what happened. 1.00

00:37:11.800 Nobody wants to buy her stupid book. 1.00

00:37:14.540 So my point is simply, they're not shamed out of that rhetoric. 1.00

00:37:19.820 They love it.

00:37:20.960 They mean it.

00:37:22.040 You know, the magazine covers of Trump as Hitler repeated.

00:37:27.300 They haven't backed off of calling him a fascist or a Hitler or Nazi since he was shot.

00:37:32.300 But the Madison Square Garden rally happened after Butler, well after.

00:37:38.140 It was before he was elected, but after that summer.

00:37:40.940 And still, they already resurrected the term Nazi.

00:37:44.460 It was like a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden.

00:37:47.000 And they won't be stopped.

00:37:50.920 And so before, again, I go back and do a deeper dive on some of these stories, I just wanted to give you the top line examples.

00:37:58.980 And that brings me to Virginia.

00:38:01.380 If you listen to our morning update, AM update, we call it today, which you really should listen to.

00:38:06.540 It's very entertaining if I do say so myself.

00:38:08.640 My team does a great job.

00:38:09.860 I'm heavily involved in the writing process myself, so it's in my own voice.

00:38:14.640 And I think it's rather snappy and very newsworthy.

00:38:17.580 I've had many leftists tell me they listen to it every day.

00:38:23.080 And what one of them told me was, he said, it definitely has a point of view, but I appreciate it because it helps me understand, you know, kind of the other half that I don't normally listen to.

00:38:33.480 Well, I appreciate that too.

00:38:35.180 So in AM update, we covered this case, and I'm sure you've heard about it by now, but if not, I got you.

00:38:39.860 Um, the attorney general, democratic candidate for AG.

00:38:46.260 Okay.

00:38:46.460 So let me restate that the democratic candidate for attorney general, it's an elected position in Virginia is a guy named Jay Jones and Jay Jones, who is 36 years old, has been outed for openly and actively wishing for praying for and desiring the death.

00:39:08.940 Of Republican lawmakers in Virginia, and not just that, but their children too.

00:39:15.160 There appears to be nothing Jay Jones would like more than to see some of his Republican opponents, because he used to be in the state house there, die slowly and painfully in the view of their spouses and also for their children to die slowly and painfully in the arms of their mothers so that Jay Jones can achieve happiness.

00:39:36.300 Um, this is beyond sick and this effort, hat tip to Audrey Fallberg of national review online, who got this exclusive.

00:39:46.420 She did a great job. 0.95

00:39:47.220 Um, he's not getting out of the race.

00:39:52.540 He's not even being asked to by virtually anyone.

00:39:57.860 Literally, it was not until this morning when somebody over on morning, Joe was like, Oh, he should step down that.

00:40:03.920 I heard a Democrat say anything about him stepping down.

00:40:05.860 Instead, what we've seen across the board is all the Democrats saying, Oh, it's bad.

00:40:12.020 Those are bad comments, but no, but like, let's not get distracted.

00:40:15.220 This is what his pastor, the pastor at a local church, who's also a former speaker, right?

00:40:24.860 Is he a former speaker or current speaker?

00:40:26.580 He's current, current, current speaker of the Virginia house of delegates down there had to say about it on Sunday.

00:40:31.880 So we need to understand something.

00:40:37.240 We have to be mature in our thinking and how we vote.

00:40:40.300 We can't get distracted because they want us to get distracted by the text message here or something else.

00:40:45.220 Stay focused.

00:40:47.380 It's, it's a distraction.

00:40:49.320 I mean, if we're going to be literal, it's a distraction.

00:40:52.820 Can't do the list, but the man has a lisp.

00:40:55.380 I'm sorry I'm being mean, but he's condemning the murder of Republican children. 1.00

00:40:59.980 So fuck him. 1.00

00:41:02.260 He's a pastor. 1.00

00:41:05.260 I like, I can't.

00:41:07.700 He, a pastor is standing up there saying, don't get distracted by the calls of murder of Republican children.

00:41:16.380 Elect Jay Jones.

00:41:18.220 F you.

00:41:18.780 What kind of a church is that?

00:41:21.000 What seriously?

00:41:21.780 What is that?

00:41:22.820 And by the way, that guy too has his own list of problems.

00:41:26.560 That guy was arrested.

00:41:29.660 Oh God.

00:41:30.340 It's an, and it's, it's in my, my morning update for my team today.

00:41:33.500 Where is that packet?

00:41:34.440 He was arrested.

00:41:36.860 I'll find it.

00:41:37.840 I think I've got it.

00:41:39.060 Current speaker of the house, Don Scott.

00:41:41.360 Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:45.460 He's the first man to serve as the black speaker in the chamber's 405 year history.

00:41:49.580 Yay.

00:41:49.900 Good for you.

00:41:50.500 Guess what happened to him?

00:41:51.360 He was convicted of a drug offense in 1994 and served eight years.

00:41:57.740 Okay.

00:41:58.220 It had to be a bad drug offense.

00:42:00.280 They don't send you to jail for eight years for smoking the gange. 0.98

00:42:04.240 It's either dealing or you had a large amount or you cross some serious line when it comes to the drugs.

00:42:09.420 Oh, but don't worry.

00:42:10.140 You don't have to think about that anymore because Joe Biden pardoned him.

00:42:13.380 I mean, the auto pen pardoned him in January, 2025, before Joe Biden left the office.

00:42:18.660 So he got a presidential pardon for quote, a mistake I made in 1994.

00:42:22.960 Just a mistake.

00:42:24.440 Okay.

00:42:24.860 Just a mistake.

00:42:25.500 You don't seem to have reformed, sir.

00:42:27.380 You seem awfully pro crime.

00:42:31.860 Um, why is that?

00:42:33.320 So he calls it a distraction.

00:42:35.920 Don't get distracted by a text message.

00:42:39.000 Stay focused in church.

00:42:42.660 Okay.

00:42:43.240 In church.

00:42:44.060 That's, that's what happened.

00:42:46.020 Uh, and then you have Neera Tanden.

00:42:48.680 She was a top Joe Biden official.

00:42:50.560 She went, um, on TV over the weekend.

00:42:54.020 I think it was meet the press.

00:42:56.200 And here's what she said.

00:42:59.060 And there's not one national Democrat calling for him to step aside.

00:43:02.200 Not one.

00:43:02.780 It's disgraceful.

00:43:03.960 I absolutely think people should criticize that a hundred percent. 0.92

00:43:08.560 It's, I think it was a private conversation he had, but still awful and disgusting.

00:43:12.700 He's private.

00:43:13.300 We should condemn that.

00:43:14.360 But then you should condemn when the president's called the Democratic Party, the party of Satan.

00:43:19.180 Yeah.

00:43:19.440 In all fairness.

00:43:20.120 Why don't we just say both of those?

00:43:21.160 I think I've paid the price for saying for political violence on our side.

00:43:25.480 It was private message.

00:43:27.100 She's talking there with Mike Pence's former chief of staff.

00:43:29.300 Uh, it was private.

00:43:31.580 And, and Trump called us the party of Satan.

00:43:34.540 Look, that is obvious hyperbole. 0.60

00:43:38.580 The party of Satan.

00:43:39.920 What does that even mean?

00:43:40.660 I mean, let's, let's be honest.

00:43:43.320 That is classic Trump hyperbole.

00:43:46.440 And you are no position to cast stones at Trump for using aggravated terms against you,

00:43:52.160 Neera Tanden.

00:43:53.080 You guys are the ones who have been calling him a fascist and a Nazi and a dictator, et cetera,

00:44:00.160 for years now and who got him shot.

00:44:04.960 But party of Satan is hyperbole and it is not nice, but it's not the same as what this guy,

00:44:12.620 Jay Jones did in Virginia.

00:44:15.620 Okay.

00:44:15.880 Again, I'm going to go into the details of exactly what he texted, but I'm staying surface level here

00:44:20.880 because I'm just, I'm on the subject of Democrat violence, the assassination attempt against Kavanaugh,

00:44:28.480 et cetera. 0.97

00:44:28.840 The threats to kill the, the, the dreams of killing Republican children in Virginia, 0.57

00:44:37.620 the ICE attacks, the actual attacks on Charlie, on Trump, on the three others at his rally. 0.93

00:44:47.040 I mean, time and time again, what we see is the left excuses it.

00:44:52.480 They dismiss it.

00:44:53.520 It was a private conversation.

00:44:55.180 Oh, does that make it better?

00:44:56.620 I'm sorry.

00:44:56.940 Does that make it better that he like, it's, it's actually, you can make the argument.

00:45:01.600 It's even worse that it's in private because in private, like you actually must really mean it.

00:45:06.520 Like you're, if you see the text exchange, it's private, but like, he's really trying to persuade

00:45:11.000 the moderate Republican in the Virginia house that he's inadvertently texted, but now just

00:45:15.840 throughout the whole conversation doubles down.

00:45:17.240 He does not care that he's received an unwilling recipient to these messages. 0.97

00:45:21.160 He just keeps trying to convince her that he's right, that this Republican adversary in the house really should die. 1.00

00:45:26.420 He should be killed. 1.00

00:45:27.080 It should be painful. 1.00

00:45:27.740 And that also his children should be killed and, and they're, they're devil spawn too. 1.00

00:45:31.860 They're, they're little fascists, he calls them. 1.00

00:45:34.620 And he's really making the case.

00:45:36.400 It's not some passing.

00:45:38.140 Oh, I would, I'd be happy to see him at the bottom of a lake.

00:45:41.560 That too is hyperbole.

00:45:43.140 It's not nice, but that's, that's a general kind of unfortunate, nasty comment.

00:45:48.180 This guy gets specific.

00:45:49.640 He knows exactly what he wants to see done to this Republican opponent.

00:45:53.680 And when met with a flabbergasted colleague saying, what do you say?

00:45:59.520 Would you stop?

00:46:00.300 This is deeply offensive.

00:46:01.320 I can't believe this.

00:46:02.680 He, he stops texting.

00:46:04.820 He picks up the phone and calls her.

00:46:06.820 It's doubles down.

00:46:08.120 Then she hangs up on him.

00:46:09.460 He triples down.

00:46:10.240 He starts texting again.

00:46:12.020 So yeah, it's private, but in private, he made really clear exactly what he wanted to

00:46:18.160 see happen to this Republican colleague of his.

00:46:21.460 Like, how is this an excuse?

00:46:24.140 Don't get distracted by text messages.

00:46:26.540 The guy wants to be the top law enforcement officer of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:46:30.640 Number one, the one who will have to enforce the law against people who make threats like this.

00:46:36.380 How on earth is he going to do that?

00:46:38.480 How will any Republican in Virginia feel comfortable with this guy being their AG? 0.98

00:46:48.160 What, what if you are a lunatic Democrat considering taking two shots at the man he named?

00:46:55.160 How do you like your odds of escaping the long arm of justice when Jay Jones is your AG? 0.96

00:47:01.060 As all of this goes on, what do we hear from the left?

00:47:08.020 We hear nonstop messaging about Republicans being fascists, being dangerous.

00:47:18.200 They, they, they, not only do they not acknowledge what their side is doing, they want to switch

00:47:23.240 the blame and put it on the right.

00:47:28.820 They tweet about how Republicans are authoritarians.

00:47:33.000 Guy Benson made this post in a great ex post, made this point in a great ex post over the

00:47:36.840 weekend.

00:47:37.400 How Republicans are the authoritarians.

00:47:39.540 They have rattled up tempers around ICE to never before seen levels.

00:47:47.060 They, I'm, they are not going to be happy until an ICE agent is killed. 0.97

00:47:51.260 I mean, just like they're not going to be happy until Trump was killed. 0.50

00:47:53.900 Let's not, I kind of forgot about the second assassination attempt on Trump on his golf course

00:47:58.440 that happened to, that was also a leftist.

00:48:01.360 Yeah.

00:48:03.680 We're just, we're in new territory.

00:48:05.900 And with like, look what's happening to it.

00:48:11.020 Like Jews, right? 1.00

00:48:12.220 With these cafe wearing nutcases outside of the Israeli embassy, right? 1.00

00:48:17.680 The left barely said anything about that. 1.00

00:48:20.020 They didn't give a shit. 1.00

00:48:21.780 Do you think they'd feel differently if an Israeli had shot to cafe wearing Muslims, American 1.00

00:48:28.840 Muslims here or outside of an embassy in Washington, DC? 0.98

00:48:33.580 You're damn right. 0.69

00:48:34.280 You would have, you would have heard a lot different messaging.

00:48:36.780 It's just, it only goes one way, but all the messaging in the media goes the other.

00:48:44.540 We, we do virtually none of this crime and we get all of the blame for doing it.

00:48:50.420 We get all of the terms that apply to it.

00:48:54.080 And then, you know, when Trump tries to stand up and say, and say, you are not going to endanger

00:49:01.200 my ICE agents who are there on my command, here's the other piece of it.

00:49:07.260 He gets sued.

00:49:08.320 He gets sued everywhere.

00:49:10.280 He gets sued in California.

00:49:12.520 He gets sued in Oregon.

00:49:14.300 He gets sued in Washington, DC.

00:49:16.660 He gets sued, sued, sued, sued, and sued.

00:49:19.640 And then, because the people doing the suing play their cards right, they get in front of

00:49:25.560 a left-wing district court judge, and that judge gives them the decision they need, saying,

00:49:32.340 you cannot send the National Guard to Portland, Oregon.

00:49:35.960 Too bad for your ICE agents.

00:49:37.540 You cannot do it.

00:49:38.820 And then Trump seeks an appeal, and eventually it goes up to the Supreme Court.

00:49:44.020 And in most of the cases, the Supreme Court has said, stop that.

00:49:47.560 What are you doing?

00:49:48.720 You can't tell the federal government that it can't protect its own ICE agents.

00:49:52.280 They can go, like they did with Los Angeles.

00:49:55.460 That was the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:49:57.340 That's no conservative court.

00:49:58.660 The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said, stop it.

00:50:01.460 Of course, he can send the National Guard in there to protect the ICE agents.

00:50:05.020 Slow your roll, district court judge.

00:50:07.500 And now we're having the exact same fight play out in Oregon, where you had one judge

00:50:12.840 on Saturday say, no, Trump, you cannot send 200 National Guardsmen from Oregon to go protect

00:50:18.120 your ICE agents.

00:50:18.760 So Trump tried to get clever and send them from California and Texas.

00:50:23.320 Then both California and Oregon went into court and said, don't let them do this.

00:50:28.460 And the judge, who was a Trump appointee, this is one of the rare Trump mistakes on the bench,

00:50:34.280 obviously, said, you're trying to do an end around that earlier ruling I gave you just

00:50:39.240 yesterday.

00:50:39.820 You can't do that.

00:50:40.840 And stopped the deployment of those National Guards.

00:50:43.720 And now that's going to go up in appeal.

00:50:45.700 And we'll see how that one goes.

00:50:47.640 But I think that one's going to be reversed, too.

00:50:49.180 It has to be.

00:50:50.260 There is no question that Trump has the authority to enforce federal immigration law.

00:50:55.820 Just ask Joe Biden.

00:50:57.320 He's the one who got us that ruling in January of 2024.

00:51:00.280 There's no question Trump has the right, the obligation, and it's exclusively his to enforce

00:51:06.880 the federal immigration law as he sees fit.

00:51:09.080 That's what he's trying to do.

00:51:10.040 And there's no question that he has the right to protect federal facilities and federal

00:51:15.280 personnel.

00:51:17.920 Stephen Miller was tweeting about this just this weekend in a great, great tweet that

00:51:24.920 really summed it up.

00:51:25.720 I'm going to get you that that tweet.

00:51:27.660 I'm going to read it for you next.

00:51:29.380 First, we're going to take a break.

00:51:30.900 I found it.

00:51:31.960 I'm going to take a break.

00:51:32.800 I'm going to come back and then we're going to do a deep dive on some of these cases,

00:51:35.580 most particularly, that Supreme Court would be assassin. 0.97

00:51:40.500 The nutcase who just gave this guy eight years should be impeached.

00:51:44.960 This woman, this Biden appointee should be impeached. 0.99

00:51:48.940 Forget reversed.

00:51:50.080 She should be impeached.

00:51:52.000 What she did is a complete dereliction.

00:51:55.020 Hope you're still with me.

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00:55:16.320 Not one stop. 0.98

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00:55:30.900 We're going coast to coast and do something really important, which is say what's true and what's real to honor him.

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00:56:50.440 Also, I love to give credit to people who do great work, and I want to give credit for that video of the protesters surrounding the ICE SUV that we just showed in Illinois.

00:57:03.160 That was a guy named Ford Fisher on X who captured that video, so thank you for that, Ford.

00:57:08.200 We left off before the break on how the efforts in these cities are being thwarted by local officials, and then come the lawsuits to try to thwart President Trump from protecting his own ICE agents.

00:57:25.920 Okay, so he sends ICE to clean up Joe Biden's mess.

00:57:29.400 The locals give ICE a hard time, threaten ICE, attack ICE, assault ICE, and then Trump sends in support of National Guard or other troops, other federal supporting agents, and they try to undermine them and file lawsuits to stop that.

00:57:46.260 So they want ICE twisting in the wind.

00:57:48.580 They know they can't kick ICE out, but they want them twisting in the wind with no backup and vulnerable to attacks, gunshots, et cetera.

00:57:57.880 And I'll tell you, I mentioned about what happened to Kristi Noem and the ICE agents who were looking to go to the bathroom in Broadview, Illinois, outside of Chicago, who, no.

00:58:05.960 The answer is no.

00:58:06.680 It's statewide no.

00:58:08.000 You can't use the facilities.

00:58:09.640 Two more examples.

00:58:10.380 In Chicago, again, crowds began gathering near a gas station, and by about 1230 in the afternoon, a Chicago PD dispatcher relayed that armed border patrol agents were being surrounded by a large crowd of people.

00:58:31.640 This is shortly after that woman got shot, after she was ramming the ICE trucks, and she herself had a gun.

00:58:37.060 So she gets shot, she drives herself to the hospital, and news was circulating that something had happened.

00:58:42.320 So shortly after that, crowds began gathering near the gas station, and news of that shooting was spreading.

00:58:48.160 By about 1230 p.m., a Chicago Police Department dispatcher relayed that armed border patrol agents were, quote, being surrounded by a large group of people.

00:58:57.900 According to a screenshot provided to CWB Chicago, officers were told via their in-car computers, in all caps, no units will respond to this, an order attributed to Chicago PD's chief of patrol.

00:59:15.580 No units will respond.

00:59:18.580 They did not want the cops helping the ICE agents.

00:59:22.060 They did not want the cops there helping the guys who were being surrounded by a large crowd of people.

00:59:29.260 They wouldn't go.

00:59:29.980 They weren't even going to protect their own people, never mind the ICE people.

00:59:34.140 They want nothing to do with it.

00:59:35.680 They're washing their hands of their fellow agents on orders from their boss.

00:59:41.800 They will not assist.

00:59:42.880 And then, it's not just in Chicago, listen to what happened in Portland, okay?

00:59:52.060 Portland police will provide no protection at all of the ICE agents or the federal agents who are there to protect them.

01:00:01.460 There's something called the Federal Protective Service, and that is the group that will normally provide regular security for our federal facilities or officers.

01:00:10.920 But they are stretched to the point of collapse, according to the DOJ right now.

01:00:15.480 They cannot provide the 24-7 protection that is necessary to protect the ICE agents who are getting shot at and assaulted around the clock.

01:00:24.920 And the reason they're so necessary is because there is no Portland police assistance.

01:00:29.520 They will not protect ICE at all.

01:00:31.940 So if an ICE officer gets surrounded by armed citizens, he's on his own.

01:00:35.920 So it's like maybe the Federal Protective Service, if they are there, it's a skeleton crew.

01:00:41.440 It's them or bust.

01:00:43.080 So that's why Trump sent in the guard, sent in the guard, which was just, again, on Saturday, he tried to send 200.

01:00:49.060 They said no.

01:00:50.040 The court, his own appointee, said no.

01:00:52.780 And then on Sunday, he tried to do an end around her prohibition against sending Portland National Guard troops by getting them from Texas and California.

01:01:02.020 And then California joined Oregon in a follow-up lawsuit saying you can't do that either.

01:01:06.440 And this judge, who was pissed off, said that's correct, you can't.

01:01:11.140 And said no, said no to that too.

01:01:12.960 So the ICE agent's still twisting in the wind there.

01:01:14.860 Now, let me tell you about what's happening with this Federal Protective Service, or FPS, there, because it's really egregious.

01:01:22.760 First of all, DOJ says the following, that the Federal Code's Title 10, Section 12406, allows President Trump to call up the guard to thwart the, quote,

01:01:32.580 danger of a rebellion against U.S. government authority by large groups of protesters who are stopping federal officials from enforcing the law.

01:01:39.680 They go on to write this, the Portland ICE facility has been an especially risky site because of repeated and recent acts of violence,

01:01:47.300 the Portland Police Department's inability to provide an adequate response, and a history of mob violence here dating back to 2020,

01:01:54.760 which has often been tolerated or excused by local and state officials.

01:01:58.460 The facility is subject to nightly protests, which risks escalation at any moment,

01:02:03.800 wrote the deputy director of the FPS, or Federal Protective Service, Region 10, that covers Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska.

01:02:12.520 He said that in a sworn statement, that they are subject to nightly protests, which risks escalation at any moment.

01:02:18.580 In his declaration, this guy, Robert Cantu, C-A-N-T-U, describes a counter-protester and what happened in this one incident at one of the facilities.

01:02:31.440 Okay, just listen, I'm going to read it to you.

01:02:32.660 He writes, normally, FPS, again, that's Federal Protective Service, would be able to rely on the Portland Police Bureau, or PPB,

01:02:43.720 to assist with large-scale law enforcement operations relating to federal facilities in Portland.

01:02:50.040 Normally, they work in tandem.

01:02:51.600 But the Federal Protective Service has been informed by the Portland Police that they will only respond to life-slash-safety situations,

01:03:02.340 but not anything immigration-related.

01:03:04.860 For example, on September 9th, at approximately 12.21 a.m., a female counter-protester was surrounded by a group of 12 to 13 individuals.

01:03:15.460 So, this one lady shows up to try to shout down the Antifa outside of the Portland ice facility. 1.00

01:03:21.880 They began to physically harass her by taking her water bottles and shining a high-powered flashlight in her eyes.

01:03:28.960 At approximately 1.08 a.m., Federal Protective Service requested assistance from the Portland Police.

01:03:37.700 Portland Police Dispatch responded that two units would respond, but an estimated time of arrival could not be provided.

01:03:44.360 At approximately 1.15 a.m., so seven minutes later, Federal Protective Services called Portland Police Dispatch back to request an ETA.

01:03:53.860 At approximately 1.27 a.m., a Portland Police sergeant called in requesting a description of the situation and the counter-protester being harassed.

01:04:05.040 At approximately 1.33 a.m., a Portland Police patrol car drove by the area but did not leave their vehicle or engage with the situation.

01:04:14.120 At approximately 1.44 a.m., Federal Protective Service called Portland Police Dispatch again,

01:04:20.860 emphasizing that the situation was not an immigration issue or related to federal property,

01:04:26.780 but rather a civilian in distress and that the counter-protester was surrounded and in danger.

01:04:32.980 At approximately 1.46 a.m., Federal Protective Service contacted Portland Police once again,

01:04:40.220 and Portland Police stated they did not perceive the counter-protester to be in distress or at risk of bodily harm and would not intervene. 0.99

01:04:49.480 They don't give a shit. 0.99

01:04:51.220 If this woman had been on the other side, they would have helped her. Guarantee. 0.99

01:04:54.680 But because she was there in favor of ICE, they were like, too bad. You deal with it.

01:04:59.840 But the counter-protester continued to be harassed, spit on, and threatened with physical harm.

01:05:07.140 The counter-protester was permitted to come onto federal property for her safety.

01:05:11.780 Obviously, the Federal Protective Service finally just said, I guess we have to let her in here, which is not ideal.

01:05:18.220 This could be like an undercover. This could be a double agent.

01:05:20.540 You know, you just that's not what they want to do unless they absolutely have to.

01:05:23.920 At approximately 2.27 a.m., Federal Protective Service officers pushed the protesters off of federal property,

01:05:31.500 back away from the counter-protester so that she could leave the federal property safely.

01:05:37.400 The counter-protester fled the area with a group of protesters attempting to follow her.

01:05:44.980 Federal Protective Services believed that the counter-protester had enough of a head start to escape the area safely.

01:05:51.960 At no point did Portland police respond or assist with the incident.

01:06:00.940 So what does Trump do when he's getting these reports on how thinly stretched Federal Protective Services are,

01:06:11.160 on how his ICE agents are under attack at facility after facility,

01:06:16.140 a woman showing up with a gun and a truck, ramming their vehicles, 0.92

01:06:19.720 cinder blocks being thrown at them, an open assassination attempt down in Dallas?

01:06:25.360 What's he supposed to do?

01:06:28.200 I mean, the left would say he should withdraw ICE.

01:06:30.860 He should stand down on the deportations and the arrests. 1.00

01:06:34.360 Bullshit. 1.00

01:06:35.320 Joe Biden himself told the U.S. Supreme Court, 1.00

01:06:38.640 immigration enforcement is uniquely federal responsibility,

01:06:42.380 and the feds should have full responsibility for it.

01:06:45.940 He won that argument.

01:06:48.560 Trump is fulfilling his oath of office right now.

01:06:53.720 It cannot be ICE does its job and dies or gets assaulted every day,

01:07:00.100 or ICE stands down and doesn't do its job.

01:07:02.600 Those are not okay options.

01:07:04.040 So, Trump, understanding that the Federal Code, Title 10, Section 12406,

01:07:10.680 allows Trump to call up the Guard to thwart the danger of a rebellion against U.S. government authority

01:07:15.340 by large groups of protesters who are stopping federal officials from enforcing the law,

01:07:20.420 he sends in the Guard in small, supportive units to support ICE.

01:07:24.900 That's already been upheld as okay.

01:07:26.820 That's what the Ninth Circuit said that,

01:07:28.180 I mean, what happened in L.A. was they went to a federal district court who said,

01:07:31.640 you actually can have the Guard here, and they can assist ICE.

01:07:35.840 They just can't act as, like, cops.

01:07:37.640 They can't be, like, local cops.

01:07:39.380 And the feds were like, they're not.

01:07:42.140 And the Ninth Circuit gave them an even better green light.

01:07:45.140 Like, you're good.

01:07:46.440 So, the Ninth Circuit upheld Trump's right to have National Guard troops there.

01:07:51.520 And now we're going back to the Ninth Circuit on these Oregon rulings,

01:07:54.260 the Saturday and the Sunday one,

01:07:55.400 by this Trump-appointed judge who's a problem.

01:07:59.900 And they're going to win.

01:08:00.960 Trump is going to win.

01:08:02.040 I don't know if he wins in the Ninth Circuit.

01:08:03.120 I think he's going to, based on that other ruling.

01:08:04.940 But even if he doesn't, the Supreme Court will reverse this

01:08:08.620 and allow him to send troops in to support ICE.

01:08:10.960 This is not the other big magilla we've been discussing,

01:08:14.700 because Trump's been threatening it,

01:08:16.060 which is sending a bunch of National Guard troops into a random state,

01:08:20.440 like Illinois, to do law enforcement, to do crime cleanup,

01:08:25.220 without an invitation from the sitting governor.

01:08:27.700 That's not okay.

01:08:28.980 If he does that, I will be the first to come on this air and criticize him

01:08:32.820 and say he's behaving extra-constitutionally.

01:08:35.440 Trust me, I will.

01:08:36.580 This is not that.

01:08:38.120 This is a much more myopic mission.

01:08:40.760 It's a support mission for federal troops and federal facilities

01:08:43.680 enforcing federal law.

01:08:45.540 He's fine.

01:08:47.900 And these activist judges won't acknowledge it.

01:08:51.260 They get on the bench.

01:08:52.160 They think they're king.

01:08:53.160 This woman thinks she was elected president. 1.00

01:08:55.840 She thinks she's in charge of how we enforce immigration law. 1.00

01:08:58.920 I don't know how that one got by.

01:09:00.000 I'd love to know who put her on there,

01:09:02.140 who decided this was a good judge to be handling these things.

01:09:06.320 Her last name is Immergut.

01:09:08.200 Immergut is her name.

01:09:10.040 And, yeah, she was a Trump pick.

01:09:13.480 Unfortunately, you can't bat a thousand on these.

01:09:18.020 You often wind up choosing, you know, a turkey.

01:09:23.260 At the hearing, she laid out what she was saying

01:09:28.900 and how she felt this second bite at the apple

01:09:32.960 by going to California and going to Texas for troops was not okay.

01:09:36.040 She said, how could bringing federalized National Guard from California

01:09:39.200 not be in direct contravention of the temporary restraining order I entered yesterday?

01:09:43.220 Isn't this just circumventing my order?

01:09:46.900 The highlight, Politico's Kyle Cheney reports she was pretty frustrated.

01:09:51.340 She's determined there's no legal basis to federalize the National Guard in Portland.

01:09:54.300 And she asks, why is this appropriate?

01:09:57.860 She pressed DOJ attorney Eric Hamilton about whether he believed the administration had complied with her order.

01:10:03.040 She scolded him.

01:10:04.280 As Hamilton noted, the judge's Saturday order only applied to Oregon troops.

01:10:07.740 Poor Hamilton.

01:10:08.640 That's a tough argument to make.

01:10:09.760 Of course, they were doing an end around the ruling.

01:10:11.840 That's obvious that, you know, they saw sort of a clever out.

01:10:15.460 But this was always going to be the outcome once she granted the temporary restraining order on Saturday.

01:10:21.740 So now it'll go up.

01:10:22.860 Now it will go up.

01:10:24.160 And we'll see.

01:10:24.960 Gavin Newsom reacting.

01:10:27.580 Donald Trump tried to turn our soldiers into instruments of his political will.

01:10:31.760 And while our fight continues tonight, the rule of law said, hell no.

01:10:35.940 OK, here's the Stephen Miller response I wanted to get to.

01:10:39.060 He posts the following on X.

01:10:40.720 Here's what he writes.

01:10:42.060 ICE facilities are federal property conducting a federal mission of immigration enforcement that protects the lives and livelihoods of 300 million American citizens.

01:10:52.860 The president has undisputed authority under both statute and the Constitution to deploy troops stationed in any state to defend a federal facility from domestic terrorism or violent assault.

01:11:06.060 The Portland police have refused to render aid and assistance to ICE officers.

01:11:12.080 The intention and purpose of the attacks on ICE is to prevent ICE from performing its duties and to force as many ICE officers as possible out of the field and into a defensive posture.

01:11:22.100 Yes, he's so right.

01:11:24.660 It is a violent armed resistance designed to incapacitate the essential operations of the duly elected federal government by force.

01:11:33.640 A district court judge has no conceivable authority whatsoever to restrict the president and commander in chief from dispatching members of the U.S. military to defend lives and property.

01:11:49.660 Correct.

01:11:50.260 That's what this immergut doesn't seem to understand.

01:11:55.320 Today's judicial ruling is one of the most egregious and thunderous violations of constitutional order we have ever seen and is yet the latest example of unceasing efforts to nullify the 2024 election by fiat.

01:12:10.460 Remember, all of this is about preventing the removal of illegal alien trespassers from the United States at any cost. 0.50

01:12:20.280 Very satisfying when someone says it exactly right.

01:12:26.620 You don't always get that in news or politics.

01:12:30.760 You don't always have somebody as articulate as Stephen Miller.

01:12:33.520 You really don't.

01:12:34.540 It's such a pleasure.

01:12:36.560 That guy's brilliant.

01:12:38.180 We are.

01:12:38.460 And by the way, he's been harassed violently, too.

01:12:42.420 I mean, I happen to know from a source close to the family, he's been through hell.

01:12:47.800 They won't stop harassing him and his family.

01:12:51.600 Keep going.

01:12:52.140 See how that goes.

01:12:53.940 It doesn't really seem like he's ready to stand down as a result of your tactics.

01:12:58.520 Could be you've aggravated him even more.

01:13:01.320 Maybe rethink it.

01:13:02.460 Up to you.

01:13:03.120 OK, that's ICE and the legal battle, which will continue.

01:13:11.640 And let me tell you something.

01:13:12.500 I don't think it's going to happen.

01:13:13.640 I don't.

01:13:13.960 I think the Ninth Circuit will side with Trump.

01:13:15.660 And if they don't, I think the Supreme Court will side with Trump and we will get the National

01:13:19.220 Guard in there to protect our guys, our ICE guys.

01:13:21.680 But he's laying the foundation there to say no judge can tell President Trump that he cannot

01:13:28.840 protect federal troops and federal facilities.

01:13:31.220 No one can.

01:13:31.800 He's laying the foundation to say that's an that's that's a violation of the separation

01:13:37.600 of powers by any court that would try to do that.

01:13:40.260 And it sounds like President Trump is not prepared to listen.

01:13:43.520 He's listening right now.

01:13:46.100 But he's warning them, you are on very thin ice constitutionally courts.

01:13:51.440 And if you continue to push us on this, you you will be teeing up the constitutional

01:13:55.660 crisis that you say you so fear.

01:13:57.460 He's not wrong. 0.53

01:13:58.920 Not there yet.

01:13:59.720 But if we get there, it will be the fault of the judiciary, which absolutely cannot stop

01:14:05.140 federal troops from supporting an ICE mission.

01:14:09.180 They are not there for crime cleanup.

01:14:10.980 They are there to protect federal facilities, federal employees and federal law, which this

01:14:16.440 Supreme Court ruled is within their purview.

01:14:19.680 What did you say to me, Steve Krakauer?

01:14:24.180 You're trying to get my attention?

01:14:28.080 No.

01:14:28.440 Well, OK, now I want to talk about Jay Jones in more detail, and then we're going to do

01:14:35.060 Supreme Court justice assassin.

01:14:36.980 Listen, I'm going to read to you.

01:14:38.880 Audrey Fallberg is a great reporter.

01:14:40.440 She's she's with NR. 0.56

01:14:42.500 And I this is such a scoop.

01:14:43.940 It dominated the media over the weekend.

01:14:46.400 And and rightfully so.

01:14:48.240 And as I sketched it for you, it was dominated with leftists saying.

01:14:54.960 Private texts, you know, not great, but like private and also Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

01:15:01.960 And whatever.

01:15:03.840 Moving on.

01:15:05.080 Here's what actually happened.

01:15:06.220 OK, this is her report, which you should check out.

01:15:08.340 First person at national review dot com.

01:15:11.520 On August 8th, 2022, a Republican state legislator talking about Jay Jones.

01:15:17.120 Sorry, forgive me.

01:15:18.200 She's talking about the woman who received Jay Jones's texts.

01:15:21.000 Her name is Republican House Delegate Carrie Coiner.

01:15:25.420 Received a disturbing string of early morning text messages from a former colleague, Jay Jones.

01:15:30.460 This year's Democratic nominee for Virginia and attorney general.

01:15:33.700 That vote is in less than a month.

01:15:36.100 Early voting is already underway in Virginia.

01:15:37.880 It started on September 19th.

01:15:39.440 Unfortunately, large portions of the state have probably already voted for this guy, not knowing what he is.

01:15:46.560 She goes on.

01:15:47.400 Jones, who at the time had recently resigned from the statehouse after a brief stint representing Norfolk,

01:15:53.560 had strong feelings about how the political class was eulogizing recently deceased former state legislator Joe Johnson, Jr.,

01:16:03.140 a moderate Democrat with a long tenure in Virginia politics.

01:16:06.620 Republican legislators like House Speaker Todd Gilbert had begun making public statements honoring Johnson's memory and political legacy.

01:16:17.360 That's Todd Gilbert, the one time Speaker of the House in Virginia, who, despite the fact that he was a Republican, thought it was appropriate to honor a fallen Democrat, a deceased Democrat named Joe Johnson, who was moderate and who had just died.

01:16:33.000 He was showing his humanity.

01:16:34.600 And some of those statements made by Todd Gilbert, the Republican were making the rounds in state legislative group chats.

01:16:42.820 Around 8 a.m., Jay Jones shared his feelings with his former state legislative colleague, Kerry Coiner, in a series of text messages obtained by National Review.

01:16:54.060 In them, Jones derided Johnson's, the dead Democrats, political centrism and scoffed at the glowing tributes that were being made in his honor by Republicans in the wake of his death.

01:17:07.960 That's who Joe Jones is.

01:17:09.400 Sorry, Jay Jones.

01:17:10.460 He wanted people to.

01:17:13.360 Keep quiet.

01:17:14.460 He didn't want Republicans saying nice things about Democrats.

01:17:18.100 He didn't like bipartisanship.

01:17:19.800 He didn't like humanity being shown by any member of the GOP.

01:17:24.560 He tried to send something to someone named Mark, but instead hit Coiner, who was obviously in his phone, too. 0.98

01:17:31.820 And he writes, damn, that was for Mark. 0.99

01:17:35.500 Yet that realization, writes Audrey, yet that realization did not stop Jones from joking about what, quote, that POS, meaning piece of shit, Gilbert, would say about me if I died. 0.99

01:17:49.800 Then the conversation took a dark turn. 0.98

01:17:52.140 Quote, if those guys died before me, writes Jones, referencing the Republican colleagues who were publicly honoring the deceased Democrat, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves to send them out a wash in something.

01:18:05.660 Jones then suggested that presented with a hypothetical situation in which he had only two bullets and was faced with the choice of murdering then Speaker of the House Republican Todd Gilbert or two dictators.

01:18:17.860 He would shoot Gilbert every time, he said, in quotes, prompting pushback from his former colleague.

01:18:25.240 Here's how it goes.

01:18:26.140 Jones.

01:18:27.360 Three people, two bullets.

01:18:29.500 Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. 0.98

01:18:31.960 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. 0.98

01:18:34.360 Spoiler.

01:18:35.080 Put Gilbert in the crew with two worst, the two worst people, you know, and he receives both bullets every time.

01:18:42.380 Coiner responds, Jay, please stop.

01:18:46.360 Jones, LOL.

01:18:48.480 Okay, okay.

01:18:49.800 Coiner, it really bothers me when you talk about hurting people or wishing death on them.

01:18:53.760 It isn't okay.

01:18:54.900 No matter who they are.

01:18:56.260 It's unbelievable.

01:18:57.900 This woman, like he, he's texted the wrong person and it's a Republican, no less.

01:19:03.280 And then when she very clearly, this, her responses are the kind of responses you wish you would have when your texts get unearthed to the world.

01:19:12.920 They're spot on.

01:19:14.440 She's not, you know, she's not holier than now, but she's like, stop it.

01:19:18.560 It's not okay.

01:19:19.260 You're making me uncomfortable.

01:19:20.620 That's it.

01:19:21.020 And she doesn't wax poetic.

01:19:22.520 She doesn't go on.

01:19:23.260 She says, would you stop?

01:19:25.360 Like, I don't like this.

01:19:27.160 He won't listen.

01:19:28.440 He, he is determined to make her listen to what he has to say.

01:19:33.880 And he does go on.

01:19:36.040 Okay.

01:19:36.520 He, uh, Audrey writes as follows at NR. 0.80

01:19:38.720 Coiner's alarm at her former colleagues, violent rhetoric toward Gilbert prompted Jones, Jay Jones, the guy writing them to call Coiner and explain his reasoning over the phone.

01:19:48.900 A source close to the exchange or familiar with it told NR, according to the source, the Democratic former legislator, again, a candidate for Virginia attorney general right now, doubled down on the call saying the only way public policy changes is when policymakers feel pain themselves.

01:20:06.940 Like the pain that parents feel when they watch their children die from gun violence.

01:20:13.480 He asked her to provide counter examples to disprove his claim.

01:20:18.940 At one point, the source said he suggested he wished Gilbert's wife, that's the Republican House speaker at the time, could watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views, prompting Coiner, the Republican he was talking to, to hang up the phone in disgust.

01:20:38.380 Got that he suggested he wished Gilbert's wife could watch her own child die in her arms so that Todd Gilbert might reconsider his political views. 0.99

01:20:48.340 Now he's written that he wants Gilbert to get two bullets in the head. 0.98

01:20:52.940 He's called her to reiterate that and to say he needs to feel pain and specifically wish death upon Gilbert's child in the mother's arms. 0.99

01:21:02.500 And then afterward, this psychopath continues his barrage of messages to Coiner, saying he was just asking questions. 0.79

01:21:13.780 Coiner dismissed his excuse via text and chastised him for hoping, though she incorrectly spells it hopping, that Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.

01:21:24.840 Did he deny that?

01:21:26.240 Did he say, oh, come on, I was just, you know, being hyperbolic.

01:21:30.200 I didn't mean it.

01:21:31.520 It's just blowing steam off.

01:21:33.720 No, rather than deny that he had wished death on her children, Jones responded by saying, yes, yes, I've told you this before.

01:21:46.220 Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.

01:21:52.040 Faced with more pushback from his frazzled former colleague, Jones somehow took the conversation a step further. 0.74

01:21:56.840 I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists?

01:22:02.520 Yes, he wrote, referring to Gilbert's wife and their two young children. 0.99

01:22:07.360 This is so sick.

01:22:13.040 Tomorrow, Rich Lowry and Charles C.W. Cook will be on the podcast from National Review, and I don't want to get ahead of this, but Charles has a great piece on N.R. right now, concluding that these texts are utterly disqualifying for Jay Jones, an attorney general.

01:22:30.980 And he seizes upon that, yes, I'll just give you a little preview.

01:22:37.200 He writes, the most alarming of all the words in the Jay Jones text message scandal is yes.

01:22:42.620 It comes after Jones's interlocutor, the moderate Republican House delegate Kerry Coyner, reminds Jones that he had just been talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die and that this is outrageous.

01:22:54.920 Yes, Jones replies, only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.

01:23:03.960 Why does this part in particular matter, writes Charles, I'll tell you, because it was considered, it was deliberate, malicious.

01:23:12.360 And he goes on to make the point that sometimes people get carried away.

01:23:16.360 Here, Jones confirms his thoughts, then calmly explains their logic.

01:23:21.820 Yes, yes, is not a rash indiscretion or a lazy misstatement.

01:23:27.360 It is a confirmation of what?

01:23:30.460 Of a worldview.

01:23:32.380 That's what.

01:23:35.580 This is the point I'm trying to make.

01:23:37.620 This is the point of the whole episode.

01:23:41.700 It is a confirmation of what?

01:23:43.660 Of a worldview.

01:23:44.640 That's what.

01:23:48.060 A worldview.

01:23:48.900 They show it to us over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

01:23:57.300 It is a confirmation of a worldview.

01:23:59.640 One that.

01:24:01.320 Donald Trump.

01:24:02.840 Saw firsthand.

01:24:04.680 In July of 2024.

01:24:06.880 As did Corey Compertori.

01:24:08.320 As did David Dutch.

01:24:09.400 As did Jim Copenhaver.

01:24:10.660 One that Brian Thompson, unfortunately, never saw coming. 0.98

01:24:17.540 When he was shot in the back by that coward, Luigi Mangione.

01:24:22.280 One that Charlie never saw coming either. 0.98

01:24:24.520 He predicted they'd be violent.

01:24:26.680 He did.

01:24:27.280 He was worried about his safety.

01:24:28.780 He was more worried about Trump's. 0.72

01:24:31.040 They tried to kill Trump twice.

01:24:33.020 Let's not forget that guy who tried to take him down the following month.

01:24:35.480 At his golf course.

01:24:37.080 Down in Florida.

01:24:38.620 He just got convicted in court after representing himself.

01:24:42.640 One that these ICE agents are having to deal with every day.

01:24:48.360 A worldview.

01:24:50.300 Of a worldview.

01:24:51.560 A confirmation.

01:24:53.080 That's what.

01:24:57.580 Charlie, he's so good.

01:24:59.820 I am going to steal a little bit more from this article today.

01:25:02.520 We'll talk more with him about it tomorrow.

01:25:03.820 Robert, he writes, I've talked before on my podcast about the two types of bigots.

01:25:08.740 On the one hand, you have the unthinking types who say awful things about particular sorts of people.

01:25:13.180 But who, having never really thought those things through, will back away or soften when challenged.

01:25:18.100 While I dislike them, these people do not worry me a great deal.

01:25:21.800 On the other hand, you have people whose bigotry is the product of an earnestly held, well-thought-through ideological framework.

01:25:29.820 These people terrify me. 1.00

01:25:31.800 One is a casual idiot. 1.00

01:25:34.520 The other is a committed zealot. 1.00

01:25:37.200 And it is zealots, not idiots, who tend to change the world for the worse. 1.00

01:25:43.700 That's what we're dealing with here. 1.00

01:25:45.640 Zealots.

01:25:47.460 Zealots everywhere.

01:25:48.500 They're supported by a dishonest media who eggs them on, who doesn't care about truth.

01:25:56.320 They just care about votes, currying favor from their own side and hatred for the other.

01:26:03.800 We're immersed in it.

01:26:06.080 And we've created a new ecosystem when it comes to media, which is good and healthy and the antidote.

01:26:12.200 But it hasn't completely eradicated the existence of the other.

01:26:16.000 I mean, I told you before, like, you looked at the RFKJ controversies.

01:26:19.160 At my house, when I get the New York Post, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal, all three are ripping on him.

01:26:24.780 All three, totally unsparing in their coverage of RFKJ.

01:26:28.220 The media is a problem.

01:26:30.600 And the left is a problem.

01:26:32.260 But I repeat myself.

01:26:33.180 But the Neera Tandans of the world, not to mention this, you know, current Democrat House Speaker in Virginia, don't let the text messages distract you.

01:26:44.540 Who is where is the Democratic Party saying you must step down, sir?

01:26:53.840 Jay Jones, you've gone too far.

01:26:56.820 You don't speak for us.

01:26:59.320 Where are they?

01:27:00.900 Where are they?

01:27:01.760 Where are they calling out this Kavanaugh judge who's just about to turn his killer out in four to eight?

01:27:11.020 Where's the left saying we cannot have that?

01:27:15.140 What if one of ours gets killed?

01:27:16.840 Apparently that's what you need to get their attention.

01:27:19.860 You know, like, not advocating that.

01:27:21.900 I'm just saying for them to care.

01:27:24.240 I guess that's what it would take because they don't care about the conservative justices.

01:27:27.660 Very clearly what program on CNN or MSNBC is leading today with, oh, my God, a man tried to commit a political assassination and only got eight years.

01:27:40.000 He's going to be out likely in half that.

01:27:42.620 This is outrageous.

01:27:44.660 No, what we're seeing instead is every single media outlet.

01:27:48.960 Either entirely ignoring the fact that this actually is a man or going along with the fact that he now calls himself a trans woman and only using she, her pronouns as they excuse away this sentence.

01:28:03.140 That's where we pick it up next on the outrageous sentence of the would be Kavanaugh assassin.

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01:32:02.040 I just wanted to mention two other things.

01:32:09.020 New York University's law school.

01:32:11.260 This is per the Free Beacon.

01:32:14.540 Tried to stop the Federalist Society there.

01:32:18.080 You know, that's the more conservative group that is formed at these law schools.

01:32:22.120 From hosting conservative scholar Ilya Shapiro tomorrow.

01:32:26.600 10-7.

01:32:27.820 The two-year mark since the horrific terrorist attack on Israel.

01:32:30.860 They wanted to host Ilya Shapiro.

01:32:33.980 You may recall Ilya ridiculously got forced out of Georgetown law because he sent out a tweet when Ketanji Brown Jackson was chosen by Biden, which had the phrase lesser black woman because he was saying there were other much better candidates.

01:32:52.020 And obviously she was an affirmative action pick, which we know because Joe Biden said she was an affirmative action pick.

01:32:58.140 Specifically said he was going to pick a black woman before we ever knew her name. 1.00

01:33:02.920 And so Ilya sent that tweet out and he got forced out of Georgetown.

01:33:05.780 And in any event, he's brilliant.

01:33:07.120 And he was going to speak at NYU's law school, but not even just the whole law school, the Federalist Society, which is a smaller group.

01:33:15.380 And they came out and said, oh, we can't accommodate you because of, quote, increased likelihood of demonstrations and protests connected to the anniversary of the 10-7 incidents in Gaza.

01:33:25.400 The initial request to change the date came from the law school's director of institutional programming and governance, Penelope Fernandez, the law school said you have to change the date, change the date for, quote, security reasons.

01:33:42.600 They were told that his schedule made that impossible, and then the law school claimed it had run out of space to host him at all, effectively canceling the event.

01:33:54.360 Then on October 1st, the Free Beacon published a story about what was happening, and the university's outside counsel approached Shapiro and asked what was needed to make this right.

01:34:06.240 Unbelievable.

01:34:08.120 So this is like a double whammy for these leftist universities. 0.94

01:34:11.400 So we get to hurt the Jews and conservatives in one fell swoop. 0.89

01:34:16.140 Winner! 0.98

01:34:17.280 Winner!

01:34:18.560 We get to boot Ilya.

01:34:20.080 We get to not commemorate 10-7 with anybody who would speak sense.

01:34:24.760 And we also get to hurt the Federalist Society by not giving them their wish.

01:34:28.780 Cha-ching! 1.00

01:34:29.840 Let's do that. 0.99

01:34:31.940 Then the law got involved and realized, oh, shit, we're already in the midst of a President Trump crackdown for anti-Semitism on various universities. 0.99

01:34:40.380 Maybe this isn't smart. 0.97

01:34:42.300 And by 8 p.m. that evening, the dean of the law school, Troy McKenzie, told the Federalist Society that NYU did, in fact, have space to host the event.

01:34:49.400 After all, what a shock.

01:34:50.680 They did?

01:34:51.140 Oh, I'm shocked.

01:34:52.240 Now the event is back on for 10-7.

01:34:55.460 Not for nothing, but over at Bowdoin College in Maine, they also canceled an event recently.

01:35:02.980 And guess what that was?

01:35:03.740 A Charlie Kirk vigil.

01:35:05.380 A vigil to help the students who were on campus who loved Charlie from, you know, to get together and mourn him.

01:35:15.200 Here's the statement that the kids put out about the purpose of the vigil.

01:35:18.300 We recognize that Charlie's views and ideology sparked strong disagreement and that members of our community hold a wide range of perspectives on his work.

01:35:28.720 This gathering is not about politics or debate.

01:35:31.240 Rather, it's an opportunity to come together peacefully and respectfully to remember the aspects of his life that resonated deeply with many, particularly his devotion to his faith and his commitment to family values.

01:35:44.200 But 15 minutes before the vigil was scheduled to begin, the Associate Vice President of Safety and Security, Bill Harwood, sent an email to all students and employees saying the vigil was off, at least for now, as a result of external threats and asking all community members to avoid the museum steps.

01:36:07.900 Who do you think called in those threats?

01:36:10.560 I think it was conservatives.

01:36:12.280 I think it was people of faith.

01:36:15.560 What do you think it was the tolerant left?

01:36:18.320 We've been talking about all show.

01:36:22.620 This is what happens, by the way.

01:36:24.940 Good for the Federalist Society for reaching out to the free beacon and recognizing that they have rights and that American Jews have rights to have commemorations of this terrible event, even on a college campus.

01:36:38.440 Because the Hamas supporters never stopped having commemorative events on college campuses.

01:36:44.560 You have to fight back.

01:36:46.180 So they did with lawyers and that worked out.

01:36:48.920 I don't know whether they ever rescheduled the vigil.

01:36:52.720 Bowdoin College should have said,

01:36:54.160 We will bring enough security officers and police officers on this campus and we will move this event wherever we have to to make sure you are safe in mourning Charlie Kirk.

01:37:06.280 We will not let threats stop our event, stop mourning, grow a pair. 0.96

01:37:14.680 They were too chicken shit and they had to, quote, postpone the vigil. 0.94

01:37:19.260 And we'll get back to you on whether and when that postponement date is offered. 0.95

01:37:26.120 Okay.

01:37:27.200 Kavanaugh.

01:37:28.820 So this guy is a man who, it seems to me, after trying to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, decided he would do much better if he claimed he was a woman.

01:37:42.260 And recognized there was a very high likelihood, since he was in federal custody and had confessed, and it was all over his media and his emails and so on, his planning, that he'd probably do better if he just owned it.

01:37:54.960 And if he owned it as a woman, that he had a much better chance. 0.99

01:37:59.740 Just keep in mind, this all happened during 2022.

01:38:02.420 2022, under Joe Biden, he had a much better chance of going to a woman's prison, where he would prefer to spend the rest of his life versus a male's. 0.86

01:38:12.600 Well, in the interim, Donald Trump won, and Donald Trump put a stop to that.

01:38:16.620 But like so many of these other items, we saw a federal district court judge enjoin his order stopping men from going to women's prisons.

01:38:27.480 So right now, even though Trump has ordered it to stop, it's going on.

01:38:31.180 Men are going into women's prisons, and men who are already in women's prisons are not being transferred out because of this judge's order, which is going to make its way up to the Supreme Court on the merits.

01:38:42.280 So this guy decided to suddenly declare himself trans.

01:38:45.260 And what this judge says, Deborah Boardman, a Biden appointee, is that in 2020, which had been two years before the assassination attempt, he secretly decided, here she is.

01:39:04.200 Look at this person.

01:39:05.760 She was a federal public defender for some 11 years.

01:39:08.320 She was one of the first judges to enjoin Trump's order purporting to stop birthright citizenship.

01:39:15.420 She went to Jordan for a year after she finished college, tries a Fulbright scholar.

01:39:20.920 And she's your garden variety leftist who, just like that Trump-appointed judge in Portland, thinks she's the president. 1.00

01:39:28.120 And she decided that he had secretly declared himself to be a trans woman in 2020.

01:39:38.080 But, oh, so conveniently, no one else knew about that until after he tried to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.

01:39:44.900 Oh, so convenient.

01:39:47.120 That's when he came out with it.

01:39:49.060 Wonder what his inspo was to go full trans. 1.00

01:39:51.500 This woman, Deborah Boardman, doesn't give a shit. 1.00

01:39:59.160 She loved having the excuse to let him out, again, in as little as four years with good behavior, potentially. 0.99

01:40:07.360 Here is what the DOJ told the judge before sentencing.

01:40:11.660 That this man, Nicholas Roski, is the man.

01:40:15.500 Now they want us to call him Sophie.

01:40:17.740 And normally, I will go along with name changes because that's a legal thing that actually can be done.

01:40:23.160 Anyone can change their name.

01:40:24.540 I'm not going to here.

01:40:25.940 I'm not calling this man Sophie.

01:40:27.760 His name is Nicholas, and he tried to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.

01:40:32.220 That's who's there.

01:40:33.280 And I don't believe he's a trans person at all. 1.00

01:40:35.740 I don't believe anyone is trans. 0.99

01:40:37.180 But he certainly isn't at least even having gender confusion.

01:40:41.080 By the way, he appears to be a furry.

01:40:43.820 Okay? 0.99

01:40:44.140 So we have the Charlie Kirk shooter who is dating a trans furry and into furry porn. 0.99

01:40:52.000 And we have this would-be shooter who is into furry porn and now says he's trans. 0.99

01:40:59.500 Anyone? 0.99

01:41:00.360 Anyone sensing a pattern?

01:41:02.260 Anyone concerned at all?

01:41:04.780 Got the trans shooter of the children in Nashville. 0.94

01:41:08.460 Got the trans shooter of the children in Minneapolis.

01:41:11.080 But there's nothing to see here.

01:41:12.780 There's nothing to see here.

01:41:14.760 The trans community is under attack by us. 1.00

01:41:18.740 We're the villains for even raising it.

01:41:23.740 Back to Nicholas.

01:41:25.280 The DOJ said, after Politico published that draft Dobbs decision in May of 2022,

01:41:34.980 Roski began plotting revenge against Kavanaugh and other conservatives on the high court.

01:41:41.500 Yeah, I just got it.

01:41:43.020 Hold on.

01:41:43.620 Actually, this just came in as I'm speaking.

01:41:46.100 They never rescheduled the Charlie Kirk vigil at Bowdoin at all.

01:41:53.560 And then, oh my God.

01:41:56.720 And then an article was published in the Bowdoin Orient, I think that's the school paper,

01:42:02.360 entitled, The Charlie Kirk Vigil and Meek White Supremacy.

01:42:06.160 And you can guess where it goes from there.

01:42:09.000 We'll get back to it.

01:42:10.300 Oh my God.

01:42:12.060 Ah, here's the first point he makes.

01:42:14.760 Wow.

01:42:16.260 The first point this guy makes is Kirk's faith wasn't about God or community.

01:42:20.480 It was about Christian ethno-nationalism.

01:42:23.440 So that's what you get at Bowdoin.

01:42:25.960 You cannot honor Charlie and his life, which is all that those kids wanted to do.

01:42:31.300 You will not reschedule the vigil.

01:42:33.560 You will read a hit piece on him about how he wasn't really even a man of faith. 1.00

01:42:40.540 You're disgusting. 1.00

01:42:42.360 Okay, back to the Kavanaugh would-be assassin. 1.00

01:42:46.520 He researched, planned, procured the tools for the planned killings.

01:42:50.860 This is all per the DOJ.

01:42:52.660 Traveled across the entirety of the country with those tools, including a gun,

01:42:57.020 and attempted to delete online evidence of motive and intent.

01:43:00.800 The defendant's objective to target and kill judges to seek to alter a court's ruling

01:43:06.720 is an abhorrent form of terrorism and strikes at the core of the United States Constitution

01:43:12.760 and our prescribed system of government.

01:43:15.140 Right on.

01:43:16.640 Roski searched for firearms-related terms 90 times in the month after the political leak.

01:43:24.620 His searches included information on police response times to gunshots and silencers.

01:43:32.400 This is all per an article in National Review, Brittany Bernstein, the author.

01:43:36.780 Roski also conducted research on how to shoot like a sniper from long range

01:43:42.320 and how to break into residences and watched videos on mass shootings and serial killers.

01:43:48.640 He researched techniques for strangulation and killing someone quietly

01:43:55.620 and looked at more than 30 websites with information on head and neck anatomy,

01:44:02.340 including graphics that showed knives in the body.

01:44:06.460 He also made comments on Discord about what could happen if conservatives lost to justice on the court.

01:44:12.360 Some of his messages made clear his intention to remove multiple justices.

01:44:21.080 Eight years.

01:44:23.240 That's what he got.

01:44:24.540 Why did he get eight years?

01:44:26.180 Because he presented a sob story to this activist judge.

01:44:31.920 Morning Wire, our pals over at the Daily Wire, their morning show, which is also excellent,

01:44:36.860 report as follows.

01:44:37.620 The judge who went with the she, her, ms pronouns for this guy, Nicholas.

01:44:46.500 Ms. Roski, quoting the judge, came out to herself as transgender in 2020, but kept it a secret.

01:44:54.040 Ms. Roski's sister came out as gay two years prior, but Ms. Roski saw that their parents

01:44:59.520 struggled to reconcile her sexuality with their religious beliefs.

01:45:02.520 I, writes the judge, am heartened to see that this terrible infraction, that's what she calls

01:45:09.620 the attempted assassination, this terrible infraction, has helped the Roski family accept

01:45:16.260 their daughter for who she is.

01:45:17.920 Keep going.

01:45:28.940 The judge speaks of the fact that Trump has now issued an executive order trying to keep

01:45:35.720 men in men's prisons.

01:45:37.880 With that injunction in place, Ms. Roski could receive, oh, they say it's been enjoined. 1.00

01:45:43.480 And with that injunction, Ms. Roski could receive gender-affirming care, but if the injunction goes 1.00

01:45:49.780 away, she could be denied it.

01:45:52.760 So when I sentence her, I take into account that she is a transgender woman.

01:45:58.520 Way to get every single man coming in front of you, judge, to declare that he's a woman. 0.87

01:46:05.400 Way to flood the female prisons with men pretending to be women who have zero gender dysphoria 1.00

01:46:12.820 or confusion. 1.00

01:46:14.280 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:46:15.780 You just endangered whole scores of female prisoners who are serving their sentences the 1.00

01:46:22.640 way they should be after committing terrible crimes that landed them in the joint, who now 0.79

01:46:27.240 are going to have to share cells with men who are sex offenders, men who are serial rapists.

01:46:33.220 Those are the ones most likely to feign gender confusion.

01:46:37.020 Gee, I wonder why to get into the women's prisons. 1.00

01:46:40.020 You, madam, are part of the problem. 1.00

01:46:42.820 Not to mention what you've just done to Brett Kavanaugh, his wife, his mother, and his

01:46:48.400 family that now have to worry he has four years until he can no longer live in peace.

01:46:54.660 All because you believe in gender ideology and you believe this nonsense that was spoon-fed 0.95

01:47:02.100 to you by Roski, who the Daily Wire's Luke Rosiak reports appeared as a tall man with a deep

01:47:09.480 voice who made no attempt to even hide the fact that he is a man.

01:47:15.160 He's not even trying to look female.

01:47:18.680 He knows he doesn't have to.

01:47:20.680 He just has to say the magic words.

01:47:22.720 But the court, the defense, and the defendant's family members all referred to him as a she

01:47:30.360 during the court proceedings.

01:47:32.420 The media, all calling him she, her, and Sophie.

01:47:39.000 Some not even reporting that this was a man.

01:47:44.000 It is a man, but at least for this media, they could, they could offer, it was a man when

01:47:50.440 he committed the crime.

01:47:52.020 That would be helpful.

01:47:54.460 NBC's headline, woman sentenced to eight years for attempting to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.

01:47:59.920 No one's going to know what the hell they're talking about.

01:48:02.340 Anybody who knows the story knows that it was a man who tried to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.

01:48:06.060 It would have been extraordinary to find out it was a woman.

01:48:07.760 It's very rare for women to attempt these assassinations. 1.00

01:48:12.360 And so they don't know what they're talking about.

01:48:14.840 The lead line, a woman who pleaded guilty to attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice 0.66

01:48:19.200 Brett Kavanaugh three years ago was sentenced Friday to more than eight years in prison.

01:48:24.720 Amazing.

01:48:26.260 Back in April, before, I guess, they accepted that he was a woman, their headline was at NBC

01:48:34.340 still, man who had gun and knife will plead guilty to trying to assassinate Supreme Court

01:48:39.440 Justice Kavanaugh.

01:48:40.100 You don't know what the hell you're seeing and reading if you would rely on these people

01:48:43.740 for your news.

01:48:45.120 Who, who killed Brett Kavanaugh?

01:48:48.080 Sophie Roski, they tell you.

01:48:50.060 A woman.

01:48:50.980 I thought it was a man.

01:48:52.980 Wait a minute.

01:48:53.340 I thought it was a man named Nicholas.

01:48:55.020 Nope.

01:48:55.780 You're wrong.

01:48:57.100 This is fiction.

01:48:59.600 The media goes along with it.

01:49:01.620 It's utter fiction.

01:49:02.700 We should be sticking to fact.

01:49:05.520 The fact is a man tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh and a man got sentenced to a slap on the

01:49:10.340 wrist by this activist judge.

01:49:14.620 Again, back to the Daily Wire report.

01:49:17.140 As his mother wept, Roski also choked up his Adam's apple bobbing up and down.

01:49:24.740 His mother told the judge she began attending PFLAG meetings, parents, families and friends

01:49:31.040 of lesbians and gays and learned about the LGBTQ plus community and is now committed to going

01:49:38.820 on this journey with Sophie.

01:49:41.820 These parents, these parents, they did a bang up job.

01:49:44.340 They got the one kid who I guess is female who says she's a lesbian who felt so ostracized.

01:49:49.520 She didn't want to talk to them.

01:49:50.440 And now they got another one who says suddenly he's trans and tried to assassinate a Supreme 0.91

01:49:57.000 Court justice.

01:49:57.600 But now they're going to go on a journey with him and they're going to call her Sophie because

01:50:03.100 Sophie.

01:50:05.540 Quote, was frustrated with what is going on in the world.

01:50:09.340 And this is the mother speaking.

01:50:11.880 We were not a safe place to process it.

01:50:17.240 Great job.

01:50:18.420 Great job.

01:50:20.000 You should have been a safe place for Nicholas to become Sophie. 1.00

01:50:24.320 And then maybe he wouldn't have been so fucked up. 0.99

01:50:26.520 No, that's not actually how it works. 0.99

01:50:28.980 No matter what PFLAG told you.

01:50:31.700 Great job.

01:50:33.560 There's more.

01:50:36.480 Staying the same here.

01:50:37.500 This guy's Reddit reveals the following, a post saying he was a trans gamer girl seeking

01:50:48.320 friend, a post saying he was seeking daddy to have complete sexual control over me, a

01:50:56.180 post that reads, I am into androgynous or feminine people who use she, her pronouns. 0.91

01:51:04.060 Is he gay?

01:51:05.420 Is he a lesbian?

01:51:06.180 What is he?

01:51:08.380 Play partners?

01:51:09.860 Pretty kinky.

01:51:11.060 Have a FET account and everything.

01:51:13.060 I had to look that up.

01:51:14.240 It's a reference to something called FET Life, which is a social media outlet that is centered

01:51:21.280 on kink, BDSM, and fetish communities.

01:51:26.240 What a shock.

01:51:26.920 He goes on to say, oh, he put out a classified ad calling himself a male to female pet for

01:51:37.780 owner.

01:51:38.880 Forgive me for reading this out loud, but he writes, I want to wear nothing but a collar,

01:51:43.800 ears, and tail plug and communicate only through my body what I want.

01:51:48.620 He goes on to post on Reddit, I am pro-abortion in favor of aborting fetuses, not pro-choice.

01:51:59.720 Said all babies should be aborted because they cannot give consent to being born.

01:52:04.960 Explains his upset over Dobbs. 0.67

01:52:06.580 And then he gets to the lead up to the Kavanaugh assassination.

01:52:12.100 On May 20th, 2022, he asks Reddit users, quoting,

01:52:16.960 The Roe v. Wade leak has brought a lot of attention to the Supreme Court and what it is

01:52:21.900 capable of.

01:52:23.000 If going into the future, the Supreme Court retains the same members, what is a realistic

01:52:27.720 expectation for the future?

01:52:30.180 On the other hand, if a conservative judge were replaced by a liberal one, thus changing

01:52:35.020 which party has the majority, what would change?

01:52:38.840 The next day, he posted in Reddit's forensics forum, claiming to be a novelist, writing a

01:52:45.000 killer who is obsessed with not leaving evidence.

01:52:48.340 What methods could they use?

01:52:51.040 And now what you have is the judge saying,

01:52:55.700 This is an atypical defendant and an atypical case.

01:53:00.760 Though she got far too close to executing her plans, the fact remains she abandoned them.

01:53:09.100 Sophie Roski's admission of guilt and effort to come clean did not occur after or even

01:53:14.700 because she was caught in the act by police.

01:53:17.860 If she had not called 911, law enforcement never would have known about Sophie Roski and

01:53:23.420 her plot to kill a Supreme Court justice.

01:53:26.200 Really?

01:53:26.780 Do we know that, Judge Boardman?

01:53:29.100 Do we?

01:53:30.080 We don't know that the federal agents wouldn't have seen her, him, and stopped him and interfered

01:53:35.640 with him at a time when the Supreme Court was under enormous threat because of the release

01:53:40.960 of that opinion?

01:53:42.700 Boardman found that while the presence of the marshals may have moved the needle, she

01:53:49.480 rejected the government's argument that it was the sole factor in his—see, I had to

01:53:54.100 change the pronouns from the people who changed it—in Roski's decision to call 911, which the

01:53:59.800 judge called remarkable, extraordinary, and largely driven by the call from Roski's sister.

01:54:06.420 The assistant U.S. attorney insisted that the presence of the two deputy marshals at Kavanaugh's

01:54:12.260 house was the real reason disaster was averted.

01:54:15.820 Quote, if the coast was clear, the defendant would have proceeded to break in and shoot the

01:54:20.100 associate justice.

01:54:21.360 It really was the law enforcement presence that altered the outcome of the associate justice's

01:54:26.880 life in this case.

01:54:29.240 Then Boardman goes on to say she's going to take the transgender status into account.

01:54:34.720 Um, and she said, I take into consideration the conditions of pretrial confinement and the

01:54:42.840 fact that she is a transgender woman and will be sent to a male-only facility. 0.56

01:54:50.380 She questioned, the judge did, Boardman, whether Roski would receive adequate mental health treatment

01:54:56.180 in federal prison.

01:54:58.060 Again, referring to Trump's executive order banning gender-affirming care for federal inmates.

01:55:02.340 Let's not hide the fact, she writes, that there's an executive order on this specific topic.

01:55:08.240 A lawyer for Roski, the defendant, said the lawyer is confident that the Bureau of Prisons

01:55:13.960 will give Roski the medicine she requires.

01:55:17.680 But beyond that, Your Honor, little is sure, little is sure.

01:55:21.360 And this worked on this Judge Boardman.

01:55:23.840 That's why she made it only eight years.

01:55:25.860 Then Roski's family weighs in on how he was an honors student, he was an Eagle Scout.

01:55:34.200 She struggled with her mental health, especially during the isolating years of the pandemic. 1.00

01:55:40.140 Oh, for fuck's sake. 0.99

01:55:42.780 I had trouble opening up to a conservative Christian set of parents about her transitioning. 1.00

01:55:49.880 It's the Christian's fault. 1.00

01:55:52.400 It's the fault of the conservative Christians for not buying into the trans thing.

01:55:57.780 What I see now, said the mother, is that we should have listened more.

01:56:01.980 She was frustrated with what was going on in the world, and we really were in a safe place

01:56:07.880 for her to process that.

01:56:09.360 Now, Pam Bondi says that she will appeal the ruling, but it's very, very hard to have a

01:56:21.440 sentence issued by a federal district court judge overturned.

01:56:25.140 It's very hard.

01:56:26.360 It's an abuse of discretion standard that the appellate court will employ, and that means

01:56:30.920 you have to show the district court judge abused her discretion.

01:56:34.760 And I think, unfortunately, what's likely to happen here is the Court of Appeals is going

01:56:39.720 to say, oh, she really weighed the fact more that this guy outed himself.

01:56:45.900 You know, remember, he didn't actually go.

01:56:47.500 He saw the marshals, and then he called 911 saying, you know, like, I'm having a crisis. 0.88

01:56:50.620 I'm about to kill Brett Kavanaugh.

01:56:52.420 And that should be at least one factor that weighs in his favor. 0.99

01:56:56.640 I don't deny that.

01:56:58.200 But eight years?

01:56:59.280 Hell no.

01:57:00.220 He should get 30 instead of life because of that.

01:57:02.760 But I think the Court of Appeals will say it's within her discretion.

01:57:08.360 She's the one who took the evidence.

01:57:10.060 She's the one who looked at the defendant.

01:57:12.680 Unfortunately, I think this will likely stand, and I really, really hope I'm wrong.

01:57:16.180 I desperately hope I'm wrong because I think this endangers every sitting member of the

01:57:20.060 high court, not just the conservatives.

01:57:22.420 It endangers the liberals, too. 1.00

01:57:24.780 God forbid there's some, I don't know, some crazy out there who wants to kill one of them. 0.99

01:57:29.720 We can't have it. 0.97

01:57:30.700 There has to be a strong, I mean, unusually strong deterrent placed on these kind of political

01:57:39.160 assassinations, whether it's of a Supreme Court justice, a conservative pundit and activists

01:57:46.360 like Charlie or a former president like Donald Trump, Republican nominee for president.

01:57:53.140 It's deeply, deeply wrong.

01:57:58.440 Okay.

01:57:59.600 That's going to do it for today.

01:58:02.000 It's just Monday.

01:58:03.480 It's just Monday.

01:58:05.000 But there was a lot to go over.

01:58:07.460 So I feel we've set the scene as we go into this week.

01:58:12.280 What more could be delivered?

01:58:14.460 I shudder to even ask.

01:58:15.720 I'm looking forward to speaking to the guys from National Review on this tomorrow because

01:58:19.780 they're always good on the big picture perspective and like historically where this fits in.

01:58:25.680 Charles will be here to expand on his article about the nutcase down in Virginia.

01:58:30.060 And we'll see whether the worm turns on him.

01:58:34.360 Will more Democrats come out and show any sort of morality, any sort of intolerance for explicit text 0.98

01:58:43.700 after text, after text, after phone conversation, maintaining Republican children should be murdered? 0.58

01:58:51.680 That's as good a point as any for ending today's show. 0.93

01:58:55.860 Thanks for listening.

01:58:56.920 See you tomorrow.

01:58:57.380 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

01:59:02.080 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - October 06, 2025

Disturbing Dem AG Candidate Texts, Soft Sentence For Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin, and the Left's Drift Toward Violence ｜ Ep. 1165

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