Disturbing New Reporting About Biden and Parkinson's Expert, and "Elder Abuse" Claims, with Stu Burguiere and Dave Marcus | Ep. 831
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The fallout from Joe Biden's disastrous debate performance has been felt across the country, and it s only getting worse. On this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, Meghan and Stu talk about what happened behind the scenes, why it happened, and what it means for the future of the Democratic Party.
Transcript
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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Oh, I'm over. Like, look at the amount of post-its and papers in front of me,
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the amount of news that has gone down in the past few days.
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I'm really looking forward to getting back in front of you and talking with all of you about all of it.
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And we begin with the Democratic Party in massive turmoil over the continued fallout
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from President Joe Biden's disastrous debate performance. Polls, most of them, there's one
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outlier, cratering, donors fleeing, including very top, very wealthy ones. More politicians
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calling for Mr. Biden to step aside and new alarming reporting about what Joe Biden is really like
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behind the scenes, highlighting the true scope of his cognitive decline. And yet the president
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remains defiant. He gave a brief interview to ABC News on Friday night with George Stephanopoulos.
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We'll get to that. I mean, it was incoherent. He can't finish a sentence or a thought. He's in denial
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about his condition in this race and his approval rating, his polls, you name it.
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And then again this morning, I guess this is meant to dissuade people from thinking he's not capable.
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He decided to appear via telephone on his favorite TV show, Morning Joe, calling in for a surprise phoner.
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I said this when Fox News was doing this with Trump. All right. I said this while I was at Fox News
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about the Fox and Friends program, allowing Trump to call in when he was a candidate. It's inappropriate.
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It's unethical with a presidential candidate. They could easily be sitting there reading notes,
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mimicking what an advisor says. A fast typist could be getting his answers into a teleprompter.
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It's not ethical for any news outlet to allow this of a presidential candidate.
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But they did because they're about propaganda on MSNBC and in particular on Morning Joe.
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Now, the president this morning, set up to succeed, I'll let you decide whether he did,
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challenged his critics and the so-called elites in his own party. Listen here.
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Remember all this talk about how I don't have the black support? Come on, give me a break. Come with me.
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Watch, watch. I'm getting so frustrated by the elites. No, I'm not talking about you guys,
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but about the elites in the party who they know so much more. If any of these guys don't think I
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should let them run against me, go announce the president, challenge me at the convention.
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I think most of the Democrats at this point would say, great, let's do that. We would love that.
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Joining me now for the full show, Stu Bergeer, the host of Stu Does America on Blaze TV,
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and Dave Marcus, a columnist for Fox News and the Daily Mail.
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Stu, Dave, welcome back. Things to say, massive turmoil on the Democratic side right now really
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was an understatement. And I guess we should pick it up with the president now trying to save himself
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with an interview with George Stephanopoulos, a pair of interviews with two black radio hosts in
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Pennsylvania, one of whom has now been fired, both of whom have now admitted that they just asked the
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questions the White House provided them. And frankly, I can tell you right here from this seat,
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the same is true of Morning Joe. Guaranteed. It was rehearsed. It was understood between them exactly
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where they'd go with this interview. And the choreography of the whole thing was set between
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the sitting president and his BFFs posing as some sort of journalistic figures over at MSNBC this
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morning. Stu, what do you make of it? Fascinating stuff. I mean, this has been one of the most
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incredible week or two periods that I can ever remember in politics. I mean, the debate performance
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was one of the most catastrophic things I've ever seen occur in politics for a candidate. And now this
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fallout, which has been amazing, everything from the media completely changing and morphing into like
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this group of people that actually like hold, you know, a president on the democratic side to account
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all of a sudden they're doing their, their scattered showers of journalism all over the place,
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which has been fascinating to watch. And of course the Morning Joe thing is just hilarious.
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You know, just a couple of months ago, they, Joe, Joe Scarborough was on the air saying,
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you know, this guy is not only cogent, but he's the best he's ever been. He was saying that it was a
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conspiracy theory that they kept underestimating him at their own peril. Then it seemed for a couple
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of days, I guess that he was supposed to be a, well, this is a, it was really bad performance.
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And maybe he should be thinking about his legacy. And then today he seems to be back on the bandwagon.
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I mean, the man seems to have absolutely no beliefs that are actually real other than what will get
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him more conversations at a cocktail party. He seems to have no, no soul. The way that he,
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because there's this thing that happens when normal humans communicate with each other,
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Megan, which is when you're saying something that, you know, to be a blatant lie, you feel this
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internal level of shame. You feel uncomfortable doing it. Most people feel this. Joe Scarborough has
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mastered the, uh, the skill to not feel any shame whatsoever. What he says blatantly, uh, untrue
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things that disagree with each other moments apart. It is a parlor trick. I didn't know anyone had,
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but in, in reality is disgusting. And we have this put together, Stu. So Joe Scarborough
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this morning in his interview with the president, he, if you hear the questions, he goes on like
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the elites, the politicians, the press, you know, that they're calling for you to step out of this
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race. You know, these people who think they know better. You're one of them. You dishonest dumbass
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to your point, Stu list. We put together his just this past couple of weeks evolution and back
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Scarborough's on Joe Biden. All right, here he is. You'll hear the soft montage where initially he's
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talking about how Joe Biden's the greatest ever best he's ever been. And then after the debate,
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how he sounded, and then a few days went by and he reversed messaging again. And now he's out there
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pretending he wasn't one of the ones calling for Biden to step down. Listen. He's far beyond cogent.
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In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been. He spent much of the night with his mouth agape
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and his eyes darting back and forth. I fear Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States
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unless things change and tragically did not rise to the occasion. Now is a good time in June.
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Thank God in June and not October in June. This is the last chance for Democrats to decide
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whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task. Let's take a deep breath.
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Let's understand. This is the reverse July the fifth. Such an historic decision should not be made
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in haste. It's unbelievable. Right. I thank God we know in June. Hey, you know what? Actually,
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it's only July. Like, don't make the decision in haste. Anything could happen. He could turn this
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whole thing around. I really do think it's incredible. If we all remember here, too,
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that when it felt like the right thing to do to be buddies with Donald Trump, that's also what he
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was. He was bringing him on television, licked them openly every morning basis. Yeah. Brought him on.
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They went to each other's weddings and like hung out and were buddies to the extent that even off the
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air leaked video show that he was basically asking Donald Trump what questions he wanted to be asked.
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The same thing these poor reporters and radio hosts got fired for this weekend he was doing to Donald
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Trump. And now he's completely reversed himself multiple times because whatever benefits Joe
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Scarborough on that day is what he says. That's who the guy is. He is one of the lowest forms in the
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entire media and has been his entire life. So, Dave, as interesting as Scarborough's hypocrisy
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and lies are, the presidents are far more interesting. And here he was sounding more
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vibrant this morning than he has over the past weekend and several years trying to convince us
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that he is staying in this race and that really the focus should be on Trump's terrible performance
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at the debate sought to. And I've not lost. I haven't lost. I beat him last time. I'll beat
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him this time. And this is a guy who we talk about debate. Look at his performance of debates. He lied
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over, you know, 50 lies. I mean, look, this is a guy who says 10 percent of the universe.
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He's just a liar. And he hasn't done a damn thing since the debate. He's been riding around the golf
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cart for 10 days without a Mar-a-Lago talking with his wealthy friends. I'm not running because of
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these guys, Joe. I'm running because, and you told me well enough to know this from the very beginning,
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I ran because I never bought on in the trickle down economic theory. I never bought into the notion
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that we have to walk away from the rest of the world and cave to Putin or anybody else. I've never,
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never believed any of that. And I'm confident that's what the American people are. So what I
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did was I went out and I wanted to make sure that there wasn't any slippage at all. And with the
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average voter, I don't care what the millionaires say. Okay. So it's amazing, Dave, that he's calling
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attention to the fact that Trump's been silent for 10 days, which is the most disciplined Donald Trump
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has ever shown in his life. It's exactly the right move. He's trying to bait him into saying
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something so he can shift the story off of himself. Yeah, no, it's Trump. Trump has played
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this very well, including the night of the debate. But listen, I, I'm so frustrated by all of this.
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And, and I talked to so many Americans who are so deeply frustrated because we are watching right
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now. Why nobody trusts politicians. Why nobody trusts pundits. We all watched that debate. We know what
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we saw. It wasn't a close call. That was a senile man, at least on the edge of dementia,
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who is absolutely unfit to be the president of the United States. There is no question about that.
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We all knew it. Our jaws were on the floor, but by the next morning, all of the politicians and all
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of the pundits were saying, I'm sorry, how do we spin this? How do we describe this? Because, well,
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you know, the Republicans, they don't think he's fit for office, but they'd rather run against him.
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And the Democrats, they think they don't mind the deep state running things, but now they're worried
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he might lead, he might lose. And the American people are watching all of this. And they're
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saying, you people don't give a shit about us. You don't give a shit about the country. You're
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worried about maintaining power. So let me try to break this cycle. Joe Biden is not fit to be
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president of the United States on July 8th, 2024. I don't care if it helps the Democrats, the Republicans,
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the libertarians, he's not fit to be president. And everybody ought to just be able to
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say that it's infuriating. Totally agree with you on every word. It's, it's infuriating that
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he gets to remain president between now and January. No, no matter what happens, you're
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right. He's not fit. This person cannot be the president. There are more gaffes, even this
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weekend, which we're going to show the audience, but I want to go through the news sequentially
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because it's just easier to digest that way. Um, he got out there, not only on morning, Joe
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this morning, but he had this sit down with George Stephanopoulos, the big sit down ABC
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news initially was going to release a little bit on their evening program on Friday night
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with David Muir. Then they were going to release some with Stephanopoulos on his Sunday show.
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And then the big kahuna was going to be this morning on good morning America. Well, that
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didn't happen because he only sat there for 22 minutes and you can't make three programs
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out of a 22 minute interview with the president. And so they released the whole 22 minutes on
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Friday and it was another disaster. It, he was incoherent. Once again, as we saw during the
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debate, he could not finish a sentence. He kicked off with this where he's not even sure whether he
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watched the debate on television after it happened or not sought five.
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Your friend, Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question I think is on the minds of millions of
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Americans. Was this a bad episode with a sign of a more serious condition?
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It's a bad episode. Uh, no indication of any serious condition. I was exhausted.
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Listen, Joe, Joe Biden wouldn't know if he was watching Matlock half an hour ago. I mean,
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that's, that's, that's, that's what it means. I mean, that's all that it can mean. Look, I think
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you've made a very good point of, you know, about Jill Biden's role in this right now. Now we know
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that, uh, the great intellectual Hunter Biden is the primary advisor and gatekeeper to the president
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of the United States right now. They've admitted that he can only actually function between 10 AM and
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4 PM. I mean, this is turning into a Monty Python sketch. It's, it's, it's, it's a level of absurdity
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that I don't see that I don't think I've seen before, but I will say this. It, it reminds me
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of COVID in a sense. One of the things I stressed in my book was that it was horrible that COVID
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happened during an election year. It was the worst possible timing because as soon as there started
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to be a difference of approach in the summer, right. And DeSantis is saying, maybe we can open
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up and Cuomo saying, no, we can't. Everyone got into their political silos and we were just not
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able to have a rational conversation. And I feel like that's happening here. And we're just stuck in,
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in this cycle. I feel like if we had the moon landing today by the next morning, that both
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sides would be arguing over whether it really happened or did it really matter? Or is it worth
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getting excited over? We just don't share the same reality. Yeah. And, and, you know, you speak of
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elder abuse that that's, that's how I see what's happening now that there, I tweeted out over the
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weekend. This is infuriating because what you have here is a critical wounded horse. And instead,
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of, I'm not saying putting him down, but instead of caretaking the horse, they're making him run
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again. The cruelest stable owners wouldn't put the horse back out there to watch him die on the track
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or take a split bone and turn it into a massive compound fracture of a femur, right? Like that's
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what they're doing right now saying, just run, just keep running, get out there. And that's why
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he's gives answers. Like, I'm not sure if I've watched the debate. I'm not sure. As he just
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pointed out, it happened a week ago, a week. It was eight days that when he sat down with
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Stephanopoulos and he doesn't remember here was another, he kept saying no excuses, no one's fault,
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but mine. But then he kept making excuses for why he performed so poorly. And the latest was Trump
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was yelling, even though the mics were cut. It's not six.
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How, how quickly did it, did it come to you that you were having that bad night?
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Well, Keanu was having a bad night when I realized that even when I was answering a question,
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even though they turned his mic off, he was still shouting and I let it distract me. I'm not blaming
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it on that, but I realized that I just wasn't in control.
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Stephanopoulos followed up by saying, you know, some of this began your confusion even before Trump
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weighed in and he just didn't have an answer. He didn't, because there is no answer. It wasn't
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Trump's yelling. It wasn't the mics. It again, in this interview, he said, I was exhausted
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last week at the end of the week. He said it was my travel schedule, you know, jet lag. We've heard
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overprepared with details. He raised that again. None of that was the answer and everyone knows it
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still. I mean, that's the problem he's up against. He can say everything he wants here. And the only
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question is who's going to go along with it because they want the gaslighting to continue because they
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still believe in him and who's not either because like us, they don't think he's qualified to hold his
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position or because like the Democrats who want to win, they realize he can't do it and they just
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love him or hate him. They know they need to get him out of there unless, you know, in order to hold
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on to control of the White House. Yeah. I mean, and the sad thing is, I think if you go the week period
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from the debate to that interview, the interview was the best moment for him. I think it was horrible,
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but it was, I guess, better than the debate when we were doing live coverage on Blaze TV of the
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debate and it ended. And I just, I couldn't even think of what to say. It was jaw dropping. I'd
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never seen anything, anything like it in any same society. Obviously he would not be president. My
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first thought coming out of that coverage was good God, I have kids who live in this country,
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that this man is in charge of, of, of managing in some way. I mean, you start thinking about,
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are my kids going to wind up getting blown up because of a mistake he makes? We've got a potential
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of our military. He's the commander in chief of our military. Yeah, it is. I mean, I think the biggest
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threat to our entire globe right now is the fact that we have this guy as president managing the
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situation between Ukraine and Russia. God only knows how that spirals out of control. He keeps telling
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them, sending them more and more arms that go deeper and deeper to their territory, crossing his
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own red lines. It's a whole nother topic, but it's very, very disconcerting. But I think when you go
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back to whether he's going to try to hold on to power, I, number one, do give some of the blame
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to Joe Biden. Yes, he is the racehorse, as you pointed out, that is, is limping very heavily. And so
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it is sad to watch, but this man has wanted this power since at least 1972. It's all he's thought
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about. He is wanted to be this man. And I don't think he has any intent of giving it up himself,
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whatever coherent moments he has during the day. And yes, you have Jill Biden and Hunter Biden.
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Hunter may have a little bit of interest having his dad be ahead of the DOJ right now. Of course,
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he's going to argue for him to stay in, but it's not just them. I mean, look at the people around him.
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You think Antony Blinken has a good job after this is over? I mean, you think everyone's like,
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oh, wow, I can't wait to hire Antony Blinken. Does, does Corinne Jean-Pierre have a gig outside
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of Applebee's when this is over? It's over for these people. What else are they going to do but
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argue, stay in power because all of their life is justified by this man having power.
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So, you know, can I follow up on that? There's a report in the Politico about,
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which is, I have to say, doing a great job on this. They have reasons as you know,
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to be covering this story aggressively. Where were you when the rest of us were doing it?
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In any event, about how that meeting he had last week with the Democratic governors,
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you know, and after he had that meeting, try to assuage concerns. And by the way, at that meeting,
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the governors of New Mexico and Maine told him, you're going to lose our states.
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Our states are now in jeopardy. These are not swing states. These are blue states. And all the news
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reported those two governors stood up and said, they're in jeopardy, sir, as a result of you.
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Anyway, you didn't have a flow of Democratic governors coming out and saying he's got to
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step down after that meeting. And you know why? Political reporting. It's because they want to
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run. They all see themselves as the next Democratic presidential candidate in four years. And so they
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don't want a young, potentially two term Democrat winning other than Joe Biden right now. They'd much
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rather put the racehorse out there and let him limp through another four years and then they can
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emerge as the saviors four years from now. It's craven how little these people love America. They
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only love themselves still. That is 100 percent true. And it's important to understand their
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motivation. I mean, I think you mentioned Politico, which I was looking at the Politico homepage the day
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after the debate. I couldn't believe it. I mean, it was it was harder on Joe Biden than I don't know
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Breitbart is on a daily basis. The New York Times, you know, looks like the blaze and like, you know,
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Daily Wire. I don't I don't know where this has come from. And actually, I do know, of course,
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where it's come from, which is they now for this short period believe that doing actual journalism
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is the right thing to do because they believe Trump is going to win. They believe that this is their
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opportunity to get him out. And I promise you, the second they cannot have a replacement, the second
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that is out of the picture, they will switch back. They will all of a sudden start talking about actually
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he's starting to be more coherent in these meetings. Actually, we're getting reports. This is turning around.
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Maybe it was just a bad night. They will reverse themselves and act like none of this ever happened
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if he stays in and survives the next couple of weeks. They will basically go on the air and say
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that, you know, President Biden, who promised to cure cancer, must have come up with a cure for
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Alzheimer's instead because he's now magically in control of all of his faculties. They will reverse
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themselves. It is kind of weird, though, to live in this world where kind of journalists are doing what
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they're supposed to do. I mean, they seem to be I love how they're pretending like, gee, we just you
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know, we just stumbled upon this story, which was being covered up by the White House. And so there
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here we are in earnest now ready to cover it. I mean, there's a nugget of truth in there, Dave.
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There there has been a massive cover up by the White House for sure. They've been masking just how bad
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the problem is. But all of us on the screen right now have been covering Joe Biden's obvious struggles
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with dementia. It's not a medical diagnosis. It's just a layperson's observation for years.
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And it's been ignored by all these same people who are like, oh, cover up. Meanwhile, I want you to
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respond to that. But I do want to get back to the elder abuse line because I do. That's that's how
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this feels. Yes, he's ambitious. Yes, he's the most, you know, aggressively political person in
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his circle. But when someone becomes infirm. Personally, I give them a longer leash because
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it's up to the family members when that happens to step in. That's why you can go in and you get
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power of attorney when this happens to a parent or a grandparent. You say to the court, I love my mom,
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my dad, my grandma, but they're no longer capable of making decisions. And so please give me
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the power to make the decisions for them. And the courts do it regularly because they understand
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that person, while they may have many moments of lucidity, overall, they've lost the capacity to make
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big decisions for themselves. That's that's why the family's more culpable here. Michael Moore,
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of all people who literally today was calling Donald Trump the devil, made a similar point on I think
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it was a podcast interview. Take a listen. I have to be the only one to stand for Joe Biden. That's
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right. That's me. You heard me say that. If I have to be the only one to stand up for Joe Biden here
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to protect him from the cruelest form of elder abuse I've ever been forced to watch. Well, then that's
00:24:41.920
what I'll do. He was an epic distress that Thursday night. Every cognitive default in his mind seemed to be
00:24:51.520
shutting down. If this had been somebody that you truly cared about, loved, embraced, what would you
00:25:04.700
have done? Yeah, that was rumble with Michael Moore. It's his podcast. Go ahead, Dave. Yeah, I mean, look,
00:25:13.540
the question of what we knew about Biden's condition is tricky because the White House actually did do a
00:25:21.400
pretty effective job of shielding the worst of it. It seems it also may have gotten progressively much
00:25:29.160
worse very quickly. You know, we don't know. But it's almost like the mafia, right? Like we all knew
00:25:36.800
apologies to Carol Markowitz. The mafia doesn't exist. We all knew the mafia existed, right? But
00:25:41.580
until the commission case, we didn't have the evidence. We really couldn't prove it, right? This
00:25:45.780
would be like if John Gotti had walked into a restaurant and like murdered 25 people on camera.
00:25:50.580
It just became completely obvious that this was real. And I think the Democrats and the media
00:25:55.840
ultimately have the same dilemma, which is that it's probably going to happen again. So I think
00:26:02.420
Stu's right that the liberal media would be perfectly willing to reverse themselves. And somehow the New
00:26:07.920
York Times and the Chicago Tribune, if Biden stays in the race, are going to endorse him, even though
00:26:12.780
they already called for him to leave, right? Somehow they're going to square that circle. But the real
00:26:19.180
question is, if they do that and it does happen again, because it will happen again, will there start to
00:26:25.560
be consequences? Are we already starting to see consequences, right? Is the is the economic
00:26:31.200
failure of CNN and MSNBC owing to the fact that the American people just aren't buying it anymore?
00:26:36.680
And it seems like CNN in particular, every time they try to fix it, they just revert back to the
00:26:44.320
same Trump hating, Brian Stelter loving thing that they've been since the golden escalator. I don't
00:26:52.640
understand it. I think Scott Jennings, a couple of people, they're going to do it, Dave. They're
00:26:57.620
going to if Biden stays in, they'll there'll be a day of. OK, you were against it, but that's his
00:27:07.580
decision. He's got the delegates. But then what? But then then the whole remaining period, however,
00:27:15.580
I mean, it's going to at most is going to be three months will be about how evil Trump is.
00:27:19.680
And that's it. Just Biden won't be the story. It'll just be Trump is the devil. It'll be the
00:27:24.840
Michael. He's the devil. And therefore and I have to tell you, I was talking to a Democrat friend of
00:27:29.500
mine over the weekend who I love, a wonderful woman. She's not particularly political, but she
00:27:35.680
votes Democrat. And she I was asking her what she thinks about all this. And she's she's well. She's
00:27:40.860
like, I don't really care if it's presidency by group. Like, that's fine. As long as they keep
00:27:46.360
enacting the policies I like. I got it's going fine so far. It's certainly better than with Trump.
00:27:51.160
Like, whoever's around him is doing things I like. So, yeah, I'm still going to vote for him.
00:27:54.800
I think there are a lot of Democrats who feel that way.
00:27:58.320
Yeah, no, I agree. I don't think there's enough. I like I think ultimately,
00:28:03.880
especially more independent leaning Democrats and independents themselves want a president of the
00:28:09.320
United States, because, you know, I thought one of the points Trump made in the debate,
00:28:14.080
and I know that nobody paid any attention to anything other than Joe Biden's vacant stare
00:28:18.460
during the debate. But there was one moment when Trump said to Biden, you don't fire anybody.
00:28:24.480
You never fire anybody. And it was absolutely true. Right. Jake Sullivan said, what, 10 days before
00:28:30.820
October 7th at the Middle East hadn't been that quiet in decades. He's still got his job.
00:28:35.920
Mayorkas still has his job. What do you have to do to get fired by the Biden administration? So I
00:28:41.560
think that's actually something that Trump should continue to hammer because if the Democrats are
00:28:45.220
going to say, oh, it's president by committee. Well, the committee also sucks. Yeah. Did you see
00:28:50.800
that photo tweeted out over the weekend of President Biden's speechwriting team? Oh, my God. I just want
00:28:59.640
to buy those kids like a carton of cigarettes and a bottle of bourbon or something. Like, how can this be?
00:29:05.920
They like they're still in the acne phase of puberty. It looks like a Columbia University,
00:29:12.380
you know, struggle session live and in the White House. It's terrifying. We'll put it on the board
00:29:17.760
for the YouTube audience. There's two of them in the corner doing work. I think they're filling
00:29:21.080
out resumes. I mean, it's unbelievable. Well, and Corrine Jean-Pierre is in the background. She's
00:29:26.180
their boss, which makes a lot of sense. Now I totally understand like this. OK, that that makes perfect
00:29:31.280
sense to me. Have you seen this? I don't think I've seen the photo. I mean, it makes perfect
00:29:35.640
sense, but I have not actually truly if if there's somebody there over the age of 24, it'll be a
00:29:42.080
miracle. They they're in. They've got every, of course, all the racial and gender and whatever boxes
00:29:46.700
are checked. And they I mean, I guarantee you these people know nothing, absolutely nothing
00:29:53.620
about anything other than woke diversity, D.E.I. type issues. I want to get to this because to me,
00:30:01.520
one of the things that's been really jarring about listening to Joe Biden speak is he cannot finish
00:30:07.240
a thought or a sentence. And our audience is going to hear this repeatedly during some some of the
00:30:12.220
soundbites that we've pulled for today, because this is a problem. He's the leader of the free world.
00:30:16.460
And here's just one example. This is right at the top of the interview with Stephanopoulos.
00:30:20.300
Listen to him. The whole way I prepared nobody's fault. Mine. Nobody's fault of mine. I I prepared
00:30:31.440
what I usually would do sitting down as I did come back as foreign leaders or the National Security
00:30:37.320
Council for explicit detail. And I realized partway through that, you know, all I get quoted the New
00:30:46.320
York Times had me down at 10 points before the debate, nine now or whatever the hell it is.
00:30:52.380
The fact of the matter is that when I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't.
00:30:59.860
I mean, the way the debate ran, not my fault. No one else's fault. No one else's fault.
00:31:05.340
What? I first of all, this is how he speaks now. As I did come back, national security. He's missing
00:31:14.640
words, many words in his operative sense sentences. And then in the middle of nowhere, he pivots to.
00:31:21.320
I get quoted. New York Times had me down 10 points, which is untrue. The New York Times prior to the
00:31:27.100
debate had him down three or four, depending on which poll you look at, according to Nate Silver,
00:31:32.640
not 10, because he's trying to make the point in the middle of that sentence that the debate didn't
00:31:37.780
cost him any points. He says, now I'm down nine. There was no substantive change. That's a lie.
00:31:41.780
It's inaccurate at a minimum. He inserts it in the middle of nowhere. For what purpose? Why? It doesn't
00:31:47.620
flow out of anything after national security advisors and then goes back to, well, he lied 28 times.
00:31:54.500
And this is, you can't even follow the logic, the method of thinking, Stu, and all these cognitive
00:32:02.760
experts will tell you this is yet another sign. It's a sign of cognitive abilities starting to shut
00:32:11.580
down. When I watch him speak, I often think of my 1978 MGB, a British car. When you turn the key,
00:32:20.480
a lot of times it does not start. And it makes noise and it does things that sound like cars
00:32:26.460
running, but it doesn't actually move you in any direction. And that's what it feels like
00:32:31.320
watching him. I mean, it really is disconcerting realizing this guy is also supposedly negotiating
00:32:38.080
with foreign leaders over major important things. You know, I think the most scary part of this
00:32:44.120
is that like you have a night like that debate night and you realize your entire political life
00:32:50.260
legacy career is on the line. You have days to address this and figure out a strategy. And the
00:32:59.140
strategy actually is not the hard part, right? Like the strategy is obvious. You go out there and you
00:33:03.420
do a bunch of appearances where you look good. And if he were capable of doing that, he would have done
00:33:09.100
it. This was his opportunity to go out there and shine. And look, you know, I'll even judge it on
00:33:15.020
a Joe Biden curve. Like if every politician, you say one to 10 scale, all Joe Biden content falls
00:33:21.080
between like one and three, like the best Joe Biden speech ever is a three out of 10. I will judge
00:33:26.920
Josh Hawley. Yeah, I if he put in a 2.5, you'd be OK with it. Get to a three out of 10. Fine. He can't
00:33:37.720
even do this. There are dozens and dozens of highly paid professionals around him realizing what the
00:33:45.220
stakes are for this campaign. All of them are uniquely and completely focused on making this one
00:33:52.300
appearance seem like this man can actually do this job. He's got to get through 20 minutes with a guy
00:33:58.420
who is a Clinton operative. And even with that setup, he still fails. And the reason is because
00:34:06.940
he is incapable of succeeding. That is a remarkable thing to say about the president of the United States.
00:34:14.560
He can't. He can't. I mean, I love it because you've got I think it's the Philadelphia Inquirer,
00:34:18.800
which is still on Team Biden, saying what he needs to do is a series of town halls and put
00:34:23.040
him out himself out there for repeated interviews. Hello. Hello, McFly. They know that he's not capable.
00:34:31.380
You're so dumb. Do you think they don't know that he can't do it? That's why everything has to be
00:34:37.340
controlled. And it can only be given to Morning Joe. And he can only be given to two radio hosts to
00:34:41.540
agree to ask the White House questions. And he can only be given to George Stephanopoulos,
00:34:45.920
who was near tears. He was so upset with reeling off the president's approval ratings and the polls
00:34:51.820
and so on. That's why they're doing it that way. The president was asked by Stephanopoulos about
00:34:58.740
whether he will take a cognitive exam. We're going to get into this in detail in two minutes. We're
00:35:06.140
going to take a break and then we're going to get back into the cognitive stuff in depth. But just
00:35:09.400
listen to what he said to Stephanopoulos on that on that score. It's what is it?
00:35:15.380
Deb sought seven, I think. Do you dispute that there have been more lapses, especially in the
00:35:21.240
last several months? Can I run the 110 flat? No, but I'm still in good shape. Are you more frail?
00:35:30.760
No. Have you had the specific cognitive tests? And have you had a neurologist, a specialist,
00:35:36.440
do an examination? No, no one said I had to. No one said they said I'm good.
00:35:41.540
Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included
00:35:46.200
neurological and cognitive tests and release the results to the American people?
00:35:51.420
Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every day I have that test. Everything I do.
00:35:59.300
You know, not only am I campaigning, but I'm running the world.
00:36:02.260
Would you be willing to have the independent medical evaluation?
00:36:05.640
Watch me between. There's a lot of time left in this campaign.
00:36:08.340
So, no, he refuses to submit to an independent medical evaluation. He refuses to have a cognitive
00:36:15.760
exam. And in the course of refusing that, he tells us I'm not more frail than I was three and a half
00:36:22.400
years ago. I mean, that's just an absurdity that I'm in good shape. The polls are not accurate.
00:36:28.800
I'm not behind. And 36 is not my approval rating. Everything's denied or lied about. And I refuse to
00:36:40.740
I mean, I guess he did admit that he can't run to 110 seconds flat. So, I mean, at least that's true.
00:36:48.720
Yeah. Look, this isn't going to hold. You know, the other night, my son and I watched Wag the Dog.
00:36:54.180
Right. And if you remember in that movie, there's a scandal. The president's up for re-election and
00:36:59.460
is like the Firefly Girl and De Niro's character comes in as Mr. Fix-It. David Mamet wrote that
00:37:05.120
movie. And one of the things that that's sort of a drumbeat through it is you hear them say there's
00:37:09.040
two weeks to the election. There's nine days to the election. There's seven. And De Niro keeps
00:37:13.060
saying, like, we just got to string this out for 11 more days. We just put them together. We can do
00:37:17.780
this. This is four months. This is not going to hold for four months. If the election was next week,
00:37:24.400
OK, you could do you could produce a war. Right. You could do it. This is not going to hold for
00:37:30.660
four months if that's the best that Joe Biden can do. And so it's a hell of a pickle for the Democrats
00:37:37.780
right now, because if he's refusing to leave, I do think they're going to have to one way or another
00:37:46.080
remove him, even if it means invoking the 25th Amendment. I just I think they all know that this
00:37:51.900
is not going to work. Here was just some of the Democrat reaction to that interview with
00:37:58.080
Stephanopoulos. David Axelrod, CNN contributor and former Obama guy, of course, after Biden says only
00:38:05.880
the Lord Almighty could could persuade me to give up this race. He writes denial, delusion, defiance,
00:38:12.660
Paul Begala, Clinton operative. It will not quell the growing anger. Nothing short of President
00:38:19.200
Biden doing a Simone Biles triple flip with a double twist can make Democrats unsee that debate.
00:38:24.440
Julian Castro, who ran against Biden in 2020 and raised the age issue. Then you really see a
00:38:30.900
president in denial and in a bubble. And Nate Silver, who I mentioned a moment ago, got the
00:38:36.820
guy to polling, says I wimped out in today's column and deleted a line saying that he should formulate a
00:38:42.580
plan to transition the presidency to Harris within 30 to 60 days. But I'm there now. Something's
00:38:47.560
clearly wrong here and goes on to say you can see in the in the ladder of being forced out.
00:38:54.400
He's about halfway up. It's got things like back channel conversations about pushing him out.
00:38:58.960
Anonymous leaks to the press. Influential nonelected and donors say he should resign.
00:39:03.400
Backbench elected officials say he should resign. Signals from senior party leaders that he should
00:39:07.560
resign with plausible deniability. Mega donors saying he should resign and withholding funds.
00:39:11.880
Normie senators or representatives saying he should resign. All this is starting to happen.
00:39:15.220
You know, Senator Mark Warner of Virginia trying to call this meeting, which has now been bounced
00:39:18.780
to tomorrow. You've got five Democrats going into the weekend who openly called in the House for him
00:39:23.400
to step down. Another six saying so or reverse those numbers. Six going into the weekend. Another
00:39:28.180
five over the weekend joining the chorus. You've got leaders like Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi and
00:39:34.060
Chuck Schumer not saying anything publicly yet. But Pelosi saying we're entitled to answers on whether
00:39:38.900
this is an episode or a condition. You've got top donors like billionaire Rick Caruso saying he is
00:39:46.640
going to pause donations to the Biden campaign and urging Biden to step aside so you can feel these
00:39:54.580
wheels in motion still. And Politico this morning had a headline saying that several Democrats we spoke
00:40:03.100
to view this Friday as a soft deadline for Biden to prove he's up to the job, less the effort to force
00:40:10.040
him aside, gather or get more aggressive and potentially more humiliating, which is just an absurdity.
00:40:16.960
What's he going to do this week? He's going to do the Simone Biles triple flip double back.
00:40:21.220
I mean, like, what could he possibly do to satisfy them by Friday? They're waiting for polls.
00:40:27.460
That's what they're waiting for. There was a sliver of good news for Joe Biden in that realm
00:40:34.540
following a devastating New York Times poll that showed him six points behind Trump in
00:40:39.820
likely voters, nine points behind Trump in registered voters. There was a there was a
00:40:46.240
Bloomberg morning consult poll showing him having steadied the ship. We can talk about all that,
00:40:52.480
but I've got to take a break. And when we come back, we're going to get into the fact that it broke
00:40:56.260
over the weekend, not once, not twice, nine times over the past year, a Parkinson's specialist
00:41:05.180
physician has visited the White House and met with President Biden's personal doctor and potentially
00:41:11.600
with President Biden himself. Not one of these crack reporters covering the White House found this,
00:41:20.840
disclosed it or reported on it. The New York Post broke the story yesterday. There's been follow
00:41:27.560
up reporting since. And we went back and took a hard look at every single one of those visits.
00:41:32.760
And what, if anything, had happened in the president's world just prior? Wait until you hear this.
00:41:39.700
All right, guys. So just a couple of news items that we got to go through. Today, Joe Biden wrote a
00:41:51.140
letter to all House, I guess, congressional Democrats in the wake of these House members holding a phone
00:41:58.920
call yesterday and several more coming out and saying he should step down and the senators preparing
00:42:03.740
a meeting of their own. And I'll read to you in part what what he wrote. I want you to know that
00:42:09.400
despite all the speculation in the press and elsewhere, I am firmly committed to staying in
00:42:13.500
this race. I wouldn't be running again if I did not absolutely believe I was the best person to beat
00:42:18.940
Donald Trump. We had a Democratic nomination process and the voters have spoken clearly and
00:42:23.340
decisively. This was a process open to anyone who wanted to run. Only three people chose to challenge
00:42:29.160
me. One fared so badly he left the primaries to run as an independent. He's speaking of RFKJ.
00:42:34.540
Another attacked me for being too old and was soundly defeated. There he means, what's his name,
00:42:39.820
who came on our program? The nice man from Minnesota. Dean Phillips. The voters of the Democratic Party
00:42:45.320
have voted. They've chosen me to be the nominee. Do we now just say this process didn't matter,
00:42:52.240
that the voters don't have a say? I declined to do that. I feel a deep obligation to the faith
00:42:57.540
and the trust of voters of the Democratic Party that they've placed in me to run this year. It
00:43:01.620
was their decision to make, not the press, not the pundits, not the big donors. How can we stand
00:43:06.440
for democracy in our nation if we ignore it in our own party? I cannot and will not do that.
00:43:12.580
The question of how to move forward has been well aired for over a week now,
00:43:16.020
and it's time for it to end. We have one job, and that's to beat Donald Trump. We have 42 days to
00:43:21.360
the convention, ours, and 119 days to the general election. Any weakening of resolve or lack of clarity,
00:43:27.260
about the task ahead only helps Trump and hurts us. It's time to come together. So there you go.
00:43:34.820
This is him saying, I won democracy. Listen to the will of the people. I mean, I have to say,
00:43:41.840
this is very rich, very rich coming from a guy, Dave, who tried to take away the right of voters
00:43:48.400
in several states to vote for Donald Trump by getting him bounced off, who unleashed the law
00:43:52.460
fair against Trump to try to get him put in jail so his voters couldn't vote for him.
00:43:57.820
But now he wants to be the champion of, you know, the voters have spoken. So we're going to just going
00:44:02.840
to have to do what they said, ignoring the 72 percent of voters who, as James Carville has been
00:44:07.860
jumping up about, are saying, we don't want him. He's too old.
00:44:11.360
Yeah. You know, it's interesting because that is almost word, part of that anyways, almost word for
00:44:19.380
word, what you're hearing out of Trump world, right? Laura Trump, chair of the RNC, is making
00:44:25.220
this very same argument that, wait a minute, if you swap him out now, then how can you call yourself a
00:44:31.280
defender of democracy, right? Especially if the idea is that some small cabal is going to decide,
00:44:37.020
like if it's Harris or it's Newsom or, or whoever it is. Um, and look, I think it's probably Joe
00:44:44.760
Biden's best argument, but it doesn't change the basic facts on the ground. And as I mentioned at
00:44:51.140
the top, like everybody kind of sees through the motivations here. And, and, and so we're just in
00:44:59.060
this very, very weird place where until we know for certain, whether he's going to be the nominee or
00:45:06.500
not, I don't know when that's going to be. Um, we're just going to be in this weird area of flux,
00:45:11.840
but bet on this at the moment that which Republicans and the Trump campaign feel that
00:45:17.520
the door is closed and Biden is 100% going to be the nominee. We are going to be right back at he's
00:45:23.100
unfit for office right now. And, and those attacks are going to be devastating and they haven't
00:45:28.480
started yet. I mean, Republicans really haven't started attacking him on this issue yet.
00:45:33.760
No, cause they want him because that's exactly right. But if that's the difference between the
00:45:38.600
three of us sitting on this set, I think, which is like, or at least, you know, you said it,
00:45:42.060
Dave, and I agreed with you. I don't want to meet, put words in your mouth, Stu, but, um,
00:45:45.820
I care about the country. I don't, I'm not a partisan. And so I want him out. I, he cannot be
00:45:53.040
the president anymore. He is not fit to be the president period. And the, let the chips fall that
00:45:58.780
where they may in the election. I think Trump will beat Kamala Harris. I think he'll, he'd probably
00:46:03.300
beat any of these others that they're offering up. I think he's clearly the favorite against any of
00:46:07.560
them. I mean, yeah, I think so. But yeah, it's, to me, it's like, we can't have an infit,
00:46:14.060
an infirm, unfit president. We can't have that. And, uh, but right now politically Trump and Biden,
00:46:20.360
Joe Biden, not by, not Democrats are exactly on the same page. They both want Joe Biden to remain
00:46:27.080
the nominee. Yeah. I mean, if you take it, go ahead, Stu. No, no, no worries. I mean, if you
00:46:31.980
take out, uh, you know, the, the survival of all of our families, uh, yeah. I mean, I really want
00:46:37.060
Joe Biden to be the president as well, uh, you know, the nominee as well. I mean, I am torn on this
00:46:42.120
a little bit. And when it comes to politics, I think quite clearly you want Joe Biden to remain
00:46:46.700
the nominee. If you're, if you're Donald Trump or anyone who thinks the stuff that Joe Biden has
00:46:52.400
done has hurt the country. That's, that's what I believe. I, I, I'm a little more concerned with
00:46:58.380
Kamala Harris than most, just because Harris, who is terrible, she's absolutely terrible clearly,
00:47:05.240
but she's not worse at anything than Joe Biden is. She is, you know, she's really, really bad at
00:47:11.520
everything, but she's not worse than Joe Biden at anything. And one thing that she does do,
00:47:16.700
because we can go through the whole list of candidates. One thing we can be certain of
00:47:20.640
is that the democratic party is not going to pick another 81 year old. Their largest problem
00:47:25.560
in every poll with their own voters, with independence, with Republicans is how old the
00:47:30.820
candidate is. And if you solve that problem, all of a sudden you've got a 54 or 55 year old
00:47:36.380
running against a 78 year old. And all of a sudden, you know, Donald Trump's, uh, comparative,
00:47:42.780
uh, you know, polling, which is much better than Biden's on the issue of age looks a lot worse
00:47:47.360
in that particular region. If they could solve the one worst problem they have, it's certainly
00:47:53.360
a more difficult path for Trump. And honestly, that scares me because you might not be looking
00:47:57.840
at six months with Joe Biden as a bad president or an unfit president. You might be looking at eight
00:48:02.380
and a half years of Kamala Harris. And I don't know. I mean, that sounds really bad as well.
00:48:07.800
I'm not sure. I think this is like, you know, you go to the doctor and he, and he says you have
00:48:12.820
lung cancer and you're like, Oh my God, that's terrible. And then he's like, but if you want
00:48:17.360
to have pancreatic cancer, you can have that instead. Like neither of these is just pulled
00:48:22.600
lung cancer out of the air there, Megan. Oh, sorry, Dave. Sorry. Sorry. I'm just saying not,
00:48:31.900
none, none of these is a good option. That's why the Democrats are in such distress. Dave,
00:48:35.560
I think it's you that's pulling lung cancer out of the air. That's, that's kind of your gig,
00:48:38.840
isn't it? Right. We're rooting for you, Dave. We want you to live. All right. When we come back,
00:48:43.500
a deep dive into that Parkinson's doctor and what he was doing at the white house. Don't go away.
00:48:52.600
Over the weekend, there was some bombshell reporting on the story of president Biden's
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health reporting that could prove to be a key piece of the puzzle in determining what's wrong
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with him. First from the New York posts, John Levine, who reported that president Biden's personal
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doctor, a man named Kevin O'Connor met with a Parkinson's disease specialist at the white house
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back in January of this year. That specialist name is Dr. Kevin Kennard.
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Okay. Okay. Canard O'Connor's the main doctor. Canard is the Parkinson's guy.
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Then on the heels of the New York post reporting this news, Alex Berenson followed up and reported
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that this very same Parkinson's doctor had actually visited the white house's residence clinic nine
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times over the past year. Most of the appointments set up by the Navy nurse who runs care for president
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Joe Biden. In fact, from what we've gleaned from the white house visitors log, we've looked at it
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now too. It's been on a near monthly basis that a Parkinson's specialist has been visiting the
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white house and the team that takes care of president Biden. So we did some digging of our own,
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looked back at the dates that Kennard, the Parkinson's guy visited and what was going on
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with president Biden at or around the time. The visits actually started not in this past January,
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but a year ago, July, 2023, earlier on the day of Dr. Kennard's visit, the president traveled to Maine.
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Now in this video, you see him come down the stairs of air force one and fail to salute service members
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waiting at the bottom of the steps. That's standard protocol. All the presidents do this. He knows this
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instead. He just blows past them and starts looking around like he's lost. He then walks off to the
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side and stops again. At one point, you see him then walk back toward a secret service member
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standing in back of him. He appears lost. Approximately a month, a month later, the doctor
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visited the white house again, the Parkinson's guy days before he showed up. President Biden had been
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in Hawaii to survey the devastation from wildfires. While there, Mr. Biden struggled to say the names of
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various Hawaiian officials, including both of Hawaii's Democratic senators. This made headlines
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at the time, and we here on the MK show reported on it. Watch. Ryan Chance, our senator, Senator
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Maisie. By the way, Maisie, I told my granddaughter whose name is Maisie as well. She said,
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that's why I like her anyway. But her name is Maisie as well. And, uh, and Jill, uh, uh, uh, Takuda.
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The president also appeared to be very pale during that trip. Some suggesting he appeared to fall asleep
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at an event. Look at him in this video. He looks ghost white. A week later, Dr. Canard was at the
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White House again. This visit came days after President Biden made this incoherent and rambling
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comment about shootings that had happened in Florida. And he made numerous factual errors.
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Again, a story we reported at the time. And so we have to act against this hate fuel violence.
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And so it's happening. By the way, almost five years to the day that five young Blacks were killed
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in Jacksonville, five years earlier, at a gun, not a gun shop, a store there doing, uh, kids' toys.
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Um, and, uh, but, you know, we have to speak out that, uh, there's a whole group of extreme
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people trying to erase history, trying to walk away from it. I mean, the idea that we're sitting
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here, I never thought that I'd be president, let alone be president, and having a discussion
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on why books are being banned in American schools. And, uh, and, uh, as an administration,
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we're going to continue to march forward. It's the job and the freedom that, uh, we work so hard for.
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You can hear him again, slurry, not completing his thoughts, incoherent, talking about this shooting.
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What seems to be happening here is after speaking about a 2023 shooting in Florida,
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he was trying to discuss a different shooting that happened exactly five years earlier in Jacksonville.
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But he had all of the facts wrong. In that 2018 shooting, the gunman opened fire at a video game
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tournament at the Chicago pizza restaurant, not a gun shop or a store doing kids' toys.
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Two were killed, not five, as he said. One victim was black, one was white, not five young black people.
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Moving on now. The doctor visited again on October 13th, which was understandably a significant time
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of stress as the Hamas terror attack on Israel had just taken place. He again visited on November 17th,
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a day before President Biden had referred to China's President Xi as a dictator, causing the
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President's Secretary of State to visibly wince and shake his head.
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The President, after today, would you still refer to President Xi as a dictator?
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Well, look, he is. I mean, he's a dictator in the sense that he is a guy who runs a country that
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is a country that's based on what the former governor told you different than ours.
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There was no White House visit listed in December, but the President was out of town for a large portion
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of that month. On January 17th, the doctor visited again. This is the visit that prompted the Post
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to report on this today, and they saw it first. And it happened to come just days after the
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President mistakenly suggested that he was still in the Senate during an event in Pennsylvania.
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Of course, he has not been a U.S. Senator since 2009.
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President Biden also appeared to get lost while being introduced to people. He's let around,
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stopped. He's wide eyed. He makes odd gestures. He looks down, then motions for someone to come
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over before shaking hands. A few days later, during a rally in Virginia, President Biden mumbled a bizarre
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slurring message about women and former President Donald Trump.
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We'll teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson. Don't mess with the men in America unless you want to get
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the benefits. Days later, on January 26th, that White House meeting occurred that the New York
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Post reported on involving four people, the Parkinson's expert, President Biden's personal
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doctor, a cardiologist and an unidentified fourth person. We do know that President Biden was at the
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White House that day. In fact, he had held meetings with congressional leaders. We also know that the
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president's official schedule was clear at the time of the doctor meeting. When questioned by the New York
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Post, a White House spokesman said, quote, a wide variety of specialists from the Walter Reed system
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visit the White House complex to treat thousands of military personnel who work on the grounds.
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However, the spokesman person refused to answer questions about who the doctors were meeting with
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that day and did not say that it wasn't President Biden. About a month later, President Biden's personal
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doctor would issue his own summary about the president's health after conducting his annual
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physical. He had noted that he had specialty consultations with various people from Walter Reed,
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but he did not name the doctors. This is O'Connor. He's not naming Canard nor anyone else.
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He also noted the specialties included neurology and cardiology. Dr. Kevin O'Connor said that the other
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doctors concur with his findings and that President Biden, quote, continues to be fit for duty and fully
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executes all of his responsibilities without any exemptions or accommodations. That report was
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promptly panned by people such as former President Trump's and Obama's former doctor, Ronnie Jackson.
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This whole report is absolutely ridiculous. It's nothing more than the White House's effort to check the
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box and hope that we'll move on from this. The fact that they didn't do a cognitive test as part
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of this physical exam. They did a neurological exam. There's five parts to a neuro exam. One of
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them that they conveniently left out. The one that we care about is the mental status exam. They have
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nothing on his mental status. This was a complete joke by Dr. O'Connor. And, you know, if he were serious
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about this, he would have done a thorough, comprehensive, objective exam that included a cognitive exam.
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And he would have stood up before the press in the press briefing room and he would have defended it
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and he would have answered questions. But he doesn't because he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to answer
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the questions because he's going to have to lie. There would be another visit by the Parkinson's
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expert on March 28th and possibly more. The White House visitor logs don't go beyond March. Therefore,
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we have no way of verifying what happened in April, May, June, or July so far. What we do know,
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the White House has some explaining to do and the American people deserve answers. Back with me now,
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Stu and Dave. Guys, as far as we can tell, his very first appointment, we don't know if it was his,
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but the Parkinson's doctor's first appearance at the White House, as we said, was a year ago,
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July of 2023. And he showed up, I think I said, on the 28th. We found out that the appointment for
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him to show up was made on July 11th. July 11th, Biden had been in the UK and appeared confused
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when he was meeting with King Charles. That may or may not have been the thing that set it off.
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Again, to underscore, we have no confirmation independently that all of those visits were
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for President Biden or were him examining President Biden. But the American people deserve answers
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because on many of these visits, he was seeing the president's doctor. Was the president there?
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And Ronnie Jackson, the former doctor to Obama and Trump, says that this guy, Kevin O'Connor,
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is just a mouthpiece for Joe Biden. That's why Jill and Joe chose him, said openly that this guy
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would say anything they want him to say. So there is plenty of reason to believe we are being misled
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by this White House. I don't know that the president has Parkinson's, but we deserve an answer on why a
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Parkinson's doctor visited the White House nine times over the past year. A cognitive exam was
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apparently not performed at the president's annual physical last February. And the president is
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refusing to take one now. Your reaction to all this still?
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Shocking that this could happen. It's not shocking that, you know, he might be dealing with issues
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like this. I mean, it seems to be pretty consistent. I've had relatives that have had Parkinson's,
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sadly, and it's a really, really difficult thing to go through. As you point out, we don't know that
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that's what's going on, but it certainly would explain a lot when you listen to those sort of
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moments where he's slurring and having difficulties. And we did this thing on Stood as America a long
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time ago where we had the Joe Biden triangle of emotion, which was kind of, you could plot all
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of his gaffes on this triangle. And the three corners of it were funny, sad, and scary. And each
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one would kind of fit in a different slot. And at the beginning, I felt like a lot of them were funny.
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Not recently, but they all seem like they're sad or scary. I'm terrified for the future of our
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country. And I'm sad for this guy, even though I think he's been considerably damaging to the
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country. I think he's been a terrible president. And I think he's done a lot of things to unravel
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the fabric of our nation constitutionally and in so many other ways. But of course, as a human being,
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you feel terrible watching this happen. And you feel terrible that he has people around him
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allowing this to happen. Watching it in real time is really, really disconcerting. And, you know,
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I go back, you mentioned Nate Silver earlier, who's a Democrat, like he doesn't want Donald Trump
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elected. But back in February, he wrote a piece talking about how probably is wise for the Democrats
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to switch out Joe Biden for somebody else. And what he said at the time was, look, 75% of the American
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people think he's too old and can't do this job right now. And maybe we're wrong. But if we're
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wrong, let's have them let's take a moment now in February to prove it. Let's have him do over the
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next few weeks for interviews. And he outlined kind of generally nice categories, one with like,
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you know, a major newspaper, one on one of the Sunday shows, one with maybe a center right
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outlet like the dispatch or something like that. Someone who would be tough, but, you know, fair,
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maybe kind of a wildcard interview like a Joe Rogan or something. He'd be out of his element
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and just see how he handles those. And we can kind of make a determination instead of doing that
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or something, some sort of approach like that to see what was really going on. They intentionally
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hid it from all of us. And while like it's true, they did have a massive cover up to hide this from
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reporters. It's hard to excuse them because any human being with any level of an inquisitive nature
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would realize you have to ask more and more questions. You have to get to the bottom of this.
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And I think they all knew that this was going on at some level, but chose to hide it from us.
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And now they're getting burned by what they've created here. And so I feel really bad for him
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and his family. But I feel worse for the country because we are now in a situation where we have a
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president who obviously can't do this job and has been sheltered to an extent that is disgusting.
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I don't know why they agreed to the debate in the first place. If they were going to go down this
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road, they should have just said, I will not debate a convicted felon and hid even further.
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I mean, thank God they actually allowed this debate to happen so at least the American people can see
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this before it's too late. Dave, what do you make of this? I mean, if we've had a Parkinson's,
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well, we know the Parkinson's doctor has been there almost every month over the past year.
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And if he was meeting with President Biden, the man who refuses to take a cognitive test.
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And by the way, he's got multiple expertise, so it could be another, you know, there's other forms
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of dementia that he could potentially be handling. It's a massive scandal. And there wasn't a single
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White House reporter. People who literally get paid to do things as tedious as look at the White
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House visitor logs every day who thought anything of it. Or is it that they understood it was dynamite
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and they didn't want to touch it because they understood it could hurt him?
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Well, I'm very confused because I've been constantly told that this is the most transparent
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White House in the history of the United States of America. Corinne Jean-Pierre says that
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basically every day. And of course, the reason she says it is because it's so blatantly not true.
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And so obviously not true. So, yeah, it really is amazing. But it's interesting. Stu said something
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interesting about that Nate Silver piece back in February, right? Because all three of us
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have spent, I mean, basically since Biden became president, we've all been asked over and over,
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do you think he's going to run? Do you think he's going to run? My opinion varied over time. I was
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generally in sort of like the 50-50 range, but there was always one caveat that I mentioned.
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I always said, listen, you have to, you have to factor in a 10 to 15% chance that something just
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flat out medical happens, right? He has a stroke, he dies, right? And that has to go in the half of,
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you know, he's not going to be the nominee. And I think that's what happened. I mean,
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increasingly to me, and I think that wonderful reporting by your team, Megan, by the way,
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and also like how indispensable is the New York Post? Amazing. You know, and John Levine for finding
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that first story and opening the floodgates here. But yeah, I mean, this is a mess. Everybody feels lied
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to, um, if, if that guy's been there nine times in the, in the last year, Megan, like that's not
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that there's no, there's no innocent explanation for this. No, there isn't. And you know what,
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if, if there is, then give it to us. Let's hear it. Show it. Give us a name. Tell us, you know,
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you don't have to identify somebody because of hip hop, but you can say as a general in the Navy,
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but that's my understanding is that they, he was there at least for sure on that first occasion to see
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the president's doctor, this Kevin O'Connor and met with him. And as we pointed out,
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may have met with the president as well, who we understand was there that day. And why,
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who was he seeing? What, who goes, what doctor comes to the white house for some random staffer,
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right? The random staffers, like the rest of us go to the doctor. The doctor does not come to us.
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They deserve, we deserve answers about all of this and whether the sitting president of the United
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States has Parkinson's or any other issue relating to brain health or cognition, the, the, they can't
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keep hiding it. All right. I do want to mention on the, on the subject of the lying white house liars
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that it does appear to have been known by everybody around him. We weren't the only ones. We just were
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the only ones reporting it. Um, now we're getting the more in-depth reveals about what they knew and
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when they knew it. And the latest is courtesy of Olivia Nuzzi, who's been on this program. She writes
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for New York magazine. She's an excellent reporter and, um, she does an in-depth piece entitled the
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president's mental decline was like a dark family secret for many elite supporters. She's getting some
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shit for only posting this on July 4th, right? Some of the things in here happened a long time ago, but I
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will say she did raise problems that she noted in the president's cognitive abilities back in 2020. So
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this is not her first time reporting on this, unlike many on the left, but here's in part what she talks
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about. Uh, she starts with a story about president Biden at a private New Jersey fundraiser with
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powerful Democrats and rich campaign donors the Saturday after the debate. It was at governor Phil Murphy of
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New Jersey's house. Uh, she says the content of his speech would matter less than his perceived capacity to
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speak coherently at all, though much of what he would say would not be entirely decipherable. Um, reporters
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were whisked away. The ones who were supposed to provide constant coverage of his movements. It was made clear that
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they would be permitted limited access to observe his remarks. Instead, they were whisked away from the
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reception or wrangled. She, um, said she began hearing stories about the president's mental health
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in January. And obviously she'd expressed some before that in January, I began hearing similar
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stories from democratic officials, activists, and donors, all people who supported the president and
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were working to help reelect him following encounters with the president. They had arrived at the same
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concern. Could he really do this for another four years? Could he even make it to election day? They did not wish to
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come forward with their stories. They did not want to blow a whistle when they discussed what they knew, what
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they'd seen, what they'd heard. They literally whispered. They were scared and horrified, but they were also
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burdened. They needed to talk about it, though, not on the record. They needed to know that they were not alone and not
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crazy. She writes, for example, about this disturbing interaction. Long-time friends, long-time
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friends of the Biden family who spoke to her on condition of anonymity were shocked to find the
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president did not remember their names. At a White House event last year, our guest recalled with horror
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realizing that the president would not be able to stay for the reception because it was clear
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he would not be able to make it through the reception. Number two, um, saying hello to one
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Democrat mega donor and family friend at the White House recently, the president stared blankly and
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nodded his head. The first lady intervened to whisper in her husband's ear, telling him, say hello
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and giving him the donor's name and to thank them for their recent generosity. This is literally what we do
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with our three-year-old. Say thank you to Mr. Whatever, the neighbor who brought you this nice
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toy. The president repeated the words his wife had fed him. It hasn't been good for a long time,
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said this Democratic mega donor, but it's gotten so, so much worse. A witness to the exchange told me
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so much worse. Um, a few more. She writes about Jill Biden seeing Olivia in April.
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At the White House correspondence dinner. Uh, they were in the basement for a photo op with the
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president in the basement. I smiled and said, hello. She looked back at me with a confused,
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panicked expression. It was as if she had just received horrible news and was about to run out
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of the room and into some kind of a family emergency. Uh, hi, she said, and she glanced over to her right.
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Oh, I had not seen the president up close in some time. I had skipped this season's holiday
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parties and preoccupied with covering Trump's legal and political dramas. I followed the first lady's
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gaze and found the president. Now I understood her panicked expression up close. The president does
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not look quite plausible. It's not that he's old. We all know what old looks like. Bernie Sanders is
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old. Mitch McConnell is old. Most of the ruling class is old. The president was something stranger,
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something not of this earth. My heart stopped as I extended my hand to greet the president.
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I tried to make eye contact, but it was like his eyes though open were not on his face had a waxy
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quality. He smiled. It was a sweet smile. It made me sad in a way I can't fully convey.
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I always thought, and I wrote that he was a decent man. If ambition was his only sin and it seemed to
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be, she's on the left, he had committed no sin at all by the standards of most politicians I had
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covered. He took my hand in his and I was startled by how it felt not cold, but cool. The basement was
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so warm that people were sweating and complaining. They were sweating. This was a silly black tie affair.
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I said, hello. She knew him well. She'd covered him for years. His sweet smile stayed frozen. He spoke
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very slowly and in a very soft voice. And what's your name? He asked. Exiting the room after the
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photo, the group of reporters, not instigated by me, I should note, made guesses about how dead he
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appeared to be percentage-wise. 40%? One of them asked. This was in April. In April, guys. This is
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a five-alarm fire for the country. And the left can rally. Joe Biden can rally. Let's see if it'll
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include Schumer and Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries. But the rest of us have an obligation to continue
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reporting the truth about his infirmity. Because what if they do get behind him, Dave, and they pull
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this man over the finish line? And somehow, like we just saw happen in France, the left rises up at the
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last minute and says, the right is too much for us. And this guy gets reelected to another four years.
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Yeah, look, I don't know. I mean, you know, maybe Biden needs to do like a balance of nature ad with
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like a before and after where like, you know, he's fine or something. I feel bad for, well, I don't feel
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bad. But I think Newsy was in a tough spot there, right? Like, this isn't something I have to deal
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with very often because I'm a columnist, not a reporter. But reporters have to sit on things
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sometimes, right? The whole reason that people are willing to give them information and access is
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because they trust that that information and access is going to be portrayed, is going to be
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presented to the American people in a way that's not awful for them, right?
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There is a sort of game that goes on here. You know, I do wonder what the editorial relationship
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is like. It's always a little different. But like, if she's going back to her editors at New York
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Magazine in April and describing this encounter to them, then at that point, I think at least New York
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Magazine has an obligation to pursue that story, even if they're not going to burn her sources, even if
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they're going to let her take her time and do whatever she's doing. You know, she, what she
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described, and I thought in pretty decent writing there, was the look in the eyes that they can't
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fix. It's exactly what we saw in the debate. It's that vacant, as she put it, otherworldly stare.
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And the fact of the matter is, Joe Biden could recite the entirety of Homer in perfect ancient Greek.
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But if his eyes look like that, he can't be president of the United States and everybody
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knows it. She said she planned on publishing this before the debate, but that she was she had to work
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on it, that she was trying to get those anonymous sources on the record. And the piece is always
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better when you actually have sources on the record. She's to me, she doesn't seem like a reporter
01:15:17.300
who's afraid of blowback. I mean, her 2020 piece was pretty brutal on Joe Biden. And she writes about how
01:15:23.440
she was ostracized from the White House for a long time because of it. So I'm going to give her the
01:15:28.760
benefit of the doubt. And I'm grateful she wrote the piece. But you got to be careful. You know,
01:15:33.080
like it's one of the pieces of advice. My mom was a criminal defense attorney and she represented a
01:15:37.140
bunch of mobsters in Philly. And, you know, she always told me like her piece of advice was like,
01:15:41.720
listen, you can represent them. You know, you can be cordial with them. You don't go to dinner.
01:15:46.960
You don't go down the shore for a weekend. Right. You don't go out on their boat because they get
01:15:53.080
their hooks in you. And it's very hard for reporters because they need that access.
01:15:58.240
And there is a you know it, Megan, there's a deal that goes on and it's hard to stay on the right
01:16:02.880
side of the line there if we even know where that line is. That's why one of the reasons why I liked
01:16:08.840
my post at Fox because I could always do whatever reporting I wanted to do on Republicans or Democrats.
01:16:17.600
And they would still have to deal with me because I had such a powerful post there.
01:16:21.860
They couldn't ignore Fox News and it was going to be hard to ignore me, too.
01:16:25.820
And over here, I've wondered, I wondered when I launched the show,
01:16:29.060
should I interview politicians? Because they certainly don't have to come on the Megyn Kelly show.
01:16:34.220
Right. But I don't want to be somebody who goes soft on them because I need ongoing access.
01:16:38.340
And I thought about it a lot before I interviewed Trump, before I interviewed DeSantis.
01:16:41.520
And I think anybody who watched either one of those interviews, never mind what I did with
01:16:45.400
Nikki Haley when she came on and Vivek, what all of them would know, I just chose to do journalism
01:16:50.700
and let the chips fall where they may. But you're right. It's a it's a consideration for those who
01:16:56.780
are in the game that the fact that reporters are openly, Stu, before this debate talking about
01:17:02.060
just how dead is he? Forty percent. Right. Those same reporters, none of whom take it off of
01:17:08.260
Olivia. Who else reported this? Who else talked about Joe Biden in April at the White House
01:17:14.960
Correspondents Dinner in this condition? Nobody. And by the way, the first lady is gross.
01:17:23.540
She's the villain in all of this. As far as I'm concerned, she's out there right now.
01:17:27.960
This just came across my phone. Here she is in what, North Carolina? Yeah, she's in North
01:17:34.920
Carolina saying she's all in on his reelection campaign. She plans to make three stops in three
01:17:40.820
separate states. Joe's made it clear he's all in. And that's the decision he's made, just as he's
01:17:46.180
always supported me. I'm all in too. Sure. It's just because he decided. So you're all in. All of us
01:17:54.960
know if our spouse were in this condition, we would hug them right into retirement. We'd be sitting on
01:18:01.860
the couch next to them watching Matlock. I think this president's in the condition where you can just
01:18:07.080
keep repeating the same episode over and over and over. How dare she pretend this is a normal campaign
01:18:13.880
and it was just a bad night. That's her messaging. He's repeating, not the other way around.
01:18:21.000
Yeah, I mean, I it's fascinating to watch this happen, watching the media react to this. And I think it
01:18:27.100
was Derek Thompson over at the Atlantic who I like. I think he does a lot of good stuff. And he was kind
01:18:32.260
of like frustrated about how, well, people are saying this wasn't covered. Of course, Biden's age was
01:18:36.560
covered. And it was by some. I mean, we've mentioned a few of them that, you know, you know,
01:18:42.180
Olivia did some of this. You know, Nate Silver is not really a reporter, but he talked about this.
01:18:46.660
David Axelrod, right, was on television mentioning these sorts of concerns. There were some, but not
01:18:52.180
nearly what was required for this moment. And as you go through that story, I mean, you know,
01:18:57.320
I remember where I was standing in my house when I was on the phone with my grandma. And for the first
01:19:05.120
time she couldn't, she didn't know who I was. I like, I, it's like one of the worst moments of my
01:19:11.180
life. You know, I loved her to death. And every time I think about it, it's terrible. Like I
01:19:15.700
remember that moment where she just couldn't track who I was anymore. I would remind her and
01:19:20.880
multiple times in the conversation, she would lose it and ask me again. It was a terrible, terrible
01:19:25.640
thing. And the family's response to that was not to say, Hey, what else can we get out of her
01:19:31.400
before she's gone? That was not ever part of the consideration. It was how do we make her
01:19:37.680
comfortable? How do we make her last days the best that they can be? How do we spend time with
01:19:42.300
her and enjoy her while she's still here when she's still a little bit with us? It's the exact
01:19:47.080
opposite calculation with these people and it's revolting. And the notion as reported in Politico
01:19:53.260
this morning, that they, they think he's got till Friday to really dazzle them. These Democrats
01:19:58.980
like prove that he can, he can be the nominee. What a joke. What is that? All these stories that
01:20:06.780
she's writing about match up with what we've seen with our very eyes, the waxy complexion,
01:20:13.160
the seeming like you're not there, the getting lost all the time, the, the believing dead people
01:20:18.420
are alive and alive people are dead. You know, all of that, not knowing who people are, right? Like
01:20:24.280
getting confused constantly about identity names, dead or alive, all of it. We, we, there was just
01:20:31.040
new reporting over the weekend. Cause now the knives are out for him, um, about Jackie. Remember
01:20:36.440
the where's Jackie moment? Um, when he thought Jackie Spires was alive, she was a Republican who
01:20:43.400
had just died in a car crash shortly before this bipartisan event that he was celebrating. And she
01:20:48.420
was part of the Republican coalition that joined with Dems to make this thing happen.
01:20:51.840
And he had gotten up and at that event, he said, where's Jackie? She was, um, she was supposed
01:20:57.000
to be here. Do we have it? Yeah, we have it. Here it is. Looks out 17.
01:21:01.980
And I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials, like representative
01:21:07.200
government, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, representative Jackie, you here? Where's Jackie?
01:21:13.480
I didn't think she was, she wasn't going to be here. Yeah. Just so the audience knows they had run a,
01:21:21.820
an in memoriam video about Jackie right before he stood up, his team helped put it together.
01:21:29.440
He, he knew she was dead. She had recently passed. And now it comes out that his team had put in
01:21:37.840
prompt her for him that she had died and to pay respects. So he couldn't even comprehend either what
01:21:46.260
he had just read or what he'd skipped over. I I'm not sure what his failing was there, but he couldn't
01:21:51.540
hold on to the fact that she had died. So all of what's in the newsy report matches up perfectly
01:21:58.040
with what we've seen ourselves. And it is on going just this weekend. He got out there
01:22:06.040
and told this long rambling story. I don't, I'm not even going to take a shot at trying to explain
01:22:13.500
to you what this is about. I'm just going to play it. And you tell me when it's done,
01:22:19.740
But I tell you what, once went after our, I went to a local parade, a little parade and a little
01:22:29.860
place called whole cast in Delaware, little right down the Pennsylvania border after our son had
01:22:35.300
passed. And I was sitting there at home thinking he was his favorite parade. So I decided just to go
01:22:39.940
into it. And I was walking along in this small community and three guys, four guys, about your
01:22:46.380
size came running up to him. I thought the secret was going to kill him. And when they came running
01:22:50.280
up, swear to God, two stories said, Joe, what's all this damn stuff about Pennsylvania? You're from
01:22:55.080
Delaware. You're from Delaware. Yeah, but it never gets, it never leaves you.
01:23:02.220
Huh? And you can see at the end there, Dave, Jill Biden, she's behind him. And when she realizes what
01:23:08.980
he's doing, she starts moving right up. And we saw that again this week, like that was this weekend,
01:23:14.560
but we've seen that repeatedly now. She's his handler. She's the one who's going to take the
01:23:19.580
helm of stopping us from seeing his decline. I mean, I wrote in my column immediately after the
01:23:30.780
debate. I mean, I wrote these words within five minutes of it ending. I said, the question going
01:23:35.640
into the debate was whether Joe Biden was fit to be president for four more years. The question after
01:23:41.320
the debate was whether he was quick to be fit to be president for four more days. That's where we
01:23:47.520
are now. Think about the fact that we're deciding whether this guy should be president three years
01:23:56.500
from now. Right. This is not, I almost think of it this way, right? Three years when you're in your
01:24:05.160
30s or your 40s or your 50s, things change, right? It's not that big a difference. Big difference
01:24:12.000
between being 14 and 17, right? Big difference between being 12 and 15. Big difference most of
01:24:19.840
the time between being 84 and 87. The fact that we're even contemplating this guy being in charge of
01:24:29.440
the country, the most powerful man in the world for four more years. They're literally chanting
01:24:35.380
four more years. It's it's abjectly insane. Nobody can look. Don't don't even look at Joe Biden from
01:24:44.300
2020. Don't make that comparison. Make the comparison to 2022. In the last two years,
01:24:49.920
he has changed completely. Like this is this is madness. Yeah. The just this past weekend on your
01:24:57.260
diagram, Stu, of funny and sad. Now they're all sad. This one is sad, but it also it's like kind
01:25:03.120
of funny. I mean, I'm not going to lie. When someone showed it to me, I was like, what? Um,
01:25:07.480
this is vice. This is this is Biden claiming he was the first black woman to serve with a black
01:25:16.640
president. Sorry, but it was given on a radio interview with WURD in Philly over the weekend.
01:25:24.820
It's, uh, sod 11. Listen guys, I said, question George Floyd's humanity
01:25:30.620
led the birthing movement against president Obama accused the central part five. They should be in
01:25:36.980
jail. By the way, I'm proud to be, as I said, the first vice president, first black woman
01:25:43.680
served with black president. I'm proud to be the first black woman in the Supreme Court. There's just so
01:25:50.740
much that we can do because together we, there's nothing. Look, this is the United States of America.
01:25:58.900
Okay. And he had the questions. Yeah. So he had the question. Let's get to that next. But
01:26:05.320
the fact that he can't even like he's not black and he's not a woman and he was not either of those
01:26:11.380
things ever. He just, he, and that in the white house is mad that people are nitpicking his words
01:26:18.200
in reaction to that clip. And they got all over. Do you guys, do we have the, I think it's the one
01:26:24.220
soundbite from Stephanopoulos. We didn't play as it's not eight where he talked, where he says goodest.
01:26:28.140
Um, they're all over reporters for accurately reporting that he used the term goodest in his
01:26:34.840
interview with George Stephanopoulos. And if you stay in and Trump is elected and everything you're
01:26:41.860
warning about comes to pass, how will you feel in January? I feel as long as I gave it my all and I
01:26:49.060
did the goodest jobs I know I can do. That's what this is about. Saying he said good as, which by the
01:26:57.140
way, if you listen to the full sentence, makes no sense either. Grammatically, the syntax, none of it
01:27:01.360
makes sense. But now they've started to nitpick all the reporters who are reporting on these gaps
01:27:06.180
as saying, Oh, please, you know, you don't let him get away with anything. But meanwhile,
01:27:10.580
they've let him get away with everything still. That's true. I am a little disappointed in you,
01:27:17.000
Megan, for playing all these cheap fakes throughout the program, um, highly edited, misleading videos
01:27:23.440
that make people think this guy's not on as sharp as a tack. Uh, it's, it's fascinating to, to,
01:27:28.700
to watch this because all of the videos I think you've played that preceded the debate. I never
01:27:35.580
read one mainstream media story discussing any of them. Now they were serious. He was lost. I mean,
01:27:43.880
when you were talking about the, the Parkinson's doctor and all those dates that you laid out like
01:27:48.360
that, which was incredible. Each one of those was massive, like, and conservative media hit that
01:27:54.700
stuff. Like we would talk about it and they would say, Oh, you're motivated as a partisan against
01:27:59.820
him. And, you know, of course, like, obviously I don't think he's a good president and I don't want
01:28:04.460
him to be president. So I think it's important for people to know this. It's important either way,
01:28:08.260
even if he was a great president, but like watching the media switch is remarkable. I mean,
01:28:13.980
it must be incredibly jarring for the white house. There was another clip from this weekend
01:28:19.500
that came out in an, I saw it read in a New York times story and they described how he went on this
01:28:24.520
tour. He was trying to prove himself capable, but he was still making these incredible gaffes.
01:28:29.520
And they point out that Don is a 4th of July speech to military families. He called Donald J.
01:28:35.640
Trump quote, one of our colleagues, the former president. We have that. Yeah. Yeah. We,
01:28:42.320
we have that. Stand by. I think it's 13. Listen. And by the way, you know, I was in that
01:28:49.480
World War I cemetery in France and the one that my, one of our colleagues, the former president
01:28:58.700
didn't want to go and be up there. I probably shouldn't even say it anyway.
01:29:10.900
This is what he does. He always starts, he'll, he'll swear now to sort of cover up a gaff.
01:29:17.780
He'll, he'll say anyway, just to sort of change his train of thought abruptly in the middle of a
01:29:25.160
sentence to cover up his incapacity still. Yeah. And I mean, like you, we, we, we played,
01:29:32.860
I don't know, you've played probably about 20 different pieces of sound and video here in the
01:29:37.040
show. And you weren't even really planning to play that one because it was sort of unremarkable.
01:29:42.000
Right. It was like, no, it wasn't, it wasn't bad. Like honestly, probably doesn't make the show cut
01:29:46.900
today. Like it's probably on the cutting room floor yet. The New York times is highlighting it.
01:29:51.840
Like what changed here? Uh, all of a sudden they've realized that their goal, which is the same to not
01:29:59.220
let Donald Trump be president is now served by getting this man out instead of keeping him in
01:30:04.440
and hiding everything. Right. All of a sudden their, their goal is the same, but their mission
01:30:09.360
has changed in a way. So now you've got Jill Biden running to block him, you know, from making another
01:30:15.740
mistake. And weirdly, Ashley Biden reappears on the scene at the 4th of July celebration at the
01:30:22.540
white house. I'm going to show you this video. Very strange. It shows president Obama dancing and arms
01:30:28.680
wrapped around him. Sorry, president of Biden dancing, what kind of standing there looking at
01:30:33.040
fireworks with arms wrapped around him. Those are Ashley Biden's wrapped around him. And I don't
01:30:40.200
know why this is such an odd shot, but then suddenly you're going to see her arms go up and she starts
01:30:46.540
kind of dancing. This is the one who said she took inappropriate showers with him in her diary
01:30:50.740
dancing. Okay. And now she bends down and gives the press or the visitors, the ICU,
01:30:58.340
like the fingers in the eyes and then pointing back to the people. I'm not sure what that's about.
01:31:04.120
Is that a reference to the diary? Is that she trying to, I don't know what's happening there,
01:31:08.540
but the whole family is reportedly rallying around him. And now there are reports that there's a rift
01:31:13.760
between the family and senior staff that's playing out. This is 100%. This is the senior staff saying the
01:31:20.120
reason they're talking about getting rid of people like Anita Dunn is pre debate scores that the evil
01:31:28.140
family's trying to settle. But this is one of the last stages of dying for a politician when the family
01:31:34.300
and the intimate staff start publicly turning on one another. Yeah. I mean, we've, we've, we've seen it a
01:31:40.080
lot. I mean, I think you saw this in, in, um, I remember this happening in the McCain campaign,
01:31:45.500
um, back in 2008 over like Palin and stuff like that. Right. And, and, and, and, you know, there's books
01:31:52.860
about it and stuff. There was just sort of public dispute between the campaign and the family and like,
01:31:58.320
and like, what are you doing? Um, yeah, that's a bad sign. And, you know, Stu's right. You keep playing
01:32:04.100
these things. I mean, now you have to remember all the times that he went out in front of the media and
01:32:09.080
said, Oh, I, I better not. Cause they're going to get mad at me. Right. Remember all the, you know,
01:32:15.000
he would always do that. He'd go out and he'd completely change American foreign policy in a
01:32:19.800
speech. And like 10 minutes later, there's texts coming out from the white house. Like, Oh, he didn't
01:32:25.240
mean that. That's not what he meant. Um, so yeah, I mean, there's just, there's a mountain of, of these
01:32:32.880
things. And I think what, what we've been poking at from different directions throughout the show
01:32:37.700
is that, you know, yeah, we had very good reason to suspect that it was bad. Um, and yes, most of
01:32:46.720
the liberal meat, well, probably all of the liberal media chose to ignore very obvious signs, uh, but
01:32:53.260
we're, we're past it. We're, we're, we're, we're past it now. You can't, there's no drug you can give
01:32:59.500
them. There's, there's nothing you, you, again, you can't get that look out of his eyes.
01:33:04.200
If there was a way to do that, everything. Right. So now Jill, Jill Biden tries to do the corral.
01:33:09.520
So now I guess Ashley Biden's literally putting her arms around him to try to hold him up or
01:33:14.080
show support. I don't know what the reason is. And the white house meanwhile is doing what it can
01:33:19.820
releasing the preferred questions to these radio hosts. This is the comeback tour. This is him trying
01:33:27.080
to prove he's still got, he's still vigorous. And so why do they feel the need to give pre-scripted
01:33:31.560
questions to interviewers over the weekend as he tries to prove his vigor? Well, that's what happened
01:33:38.100
in the case of two interviews he gave, um, to let's see, civic media radio host, Earl Ingram in
01:33:45.460
Madison, Wisconsin and WURD radio host, Andrea Lawful Sanders in Philadelphia. Both have large black
01:33:51.820
listener audiences. Neither is a journalist, uh, but they were doing interviews of the president
01:33:57.440
and they humiliated themselves because they accepted said questions and asked them, I'm sorry.
01:34:03.340
The sin is on them. The white house is disgusting and clearly doesn't believe in Joe Biden, but to
01:34:09.180
actually ask the question when your integrity has been insulted in this way is to affirm the white
01:34:16.060
house's assumptions about you that you are a lap dog and you will do as instructed. And now the latter
01:34:23.060
Andrea Lawful Sanders has been fired, which is the right move. Good for W U R D. She never should have
01:34:30.480
done it. And bizarrely, these two got on the air with CNN's Victor Blackwell and admitted it. That's how
01:34:38.400
we found out. He asked them the question, you know, these sound kind of like the same questions.
01:34:44.420
How, how, how did that happen? And I think we have them admitting it and sought 10 or at least one of
01:34:50.140
them. Were those questions given to you by the white house or did you have, or the campaign,
01:34:56.880
or did you have to submit questions ahead of this interview? The questions were sent to me for
01:35:04.280
approval. I approved to them. Okay. So the white house sent the questions to you ahead of the interview.
01:35:10.840
Yes. Okay. I got several questions, eight of them. And the four that were chosen were the
01:35:16.620
ones that I approved. And the gentleman leader, he did the same though, as far as I know, has not
01:35:21.860
yet been fired. Nothing says he's robust and can do this job. Like, please, for the love of God,
01:35:27.480
ask these pre-approved questions, please. It's incredible. I mean, the fact that that got it was
01:35:33.500
admitted and the fact that they would even attempt it in the middle of this sort of comeback tour where he's
01:35:37.760
supposed to prove his virility. I mean, it's just malpractice at a state that I can't even imagine.
01:35:45.880
And like, I, you know, at some level you think of these people who are working behind the scenes,
01:35:50.400
trying to keep this guy in power by any means necessary. And if you suck out sort of the,
01:35:55.120
the disgusting nature of that for a second, and just think of it as a job, it's gotta be a really
01:36:00.960
difficult job, right? I don't know how you do it. I mean, I was watching him at this black church he
01:36:06.940
was at this weekend and he's, he's sitting there and there, people are standing there. He's standing,
01:36:10.960
people are dancing around him and he just, that same empty look, just staring around. He was sitting
01:36:18.440
at one point, a friend of mine said he looked like a Scott Bakula from a quantum leap because he would
01:36:24.240
always be dropped into these situations that he didn't know where he was. And you'd have to sit
01:36:27.440
there quietly, like trying to figure out who he was and what he was supposed to do there.
01:36:34.520
That's what it is for Joe Biden every single day. And like, if you could have just told him,
01:36:39.440
Joe, just look around and smile. You're at, you're at a little bit of a party. You look around. It's
01:36:44.560
a fun day. The church is there. Everyone's excited. All you have to do is smile and nobody will notice
01:36:49.320
at all. I'm sure they told him that, but he couldn't. If he were capable of it, it would have
01:36:54.800
been done. I got to go. You guys, you're the best. Thanks so much for being here, Stu and Dave.
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01:38:02.520
Happy belated Independence Day. Hope you had a great fourth. As you may know, we have an annual
01:38:08.240
celebration at our house. We do it every year and hence annual, but this year,
01:38:12.100
I was not sure at all that we could pull it off. In fact, I did not think we were going to be able
01:38:16.480
to do it. Um, we were in a rental this summer as our house is having some work done. And I just
01:38:21.600
wasn't sure like where, where are the costumes? Where are the decorations? Whether the logistics
01:38:26.300
could work at the rental. We were two weeks in Scandinavia. It was just a lot. Um, but the more
01:38:32.420
I thought about it, the more I realized this is actually an important party. It's important to me,
01:38:37.260
to my family. And I actually think it's got some importance to our friends and our neighbors at
01:38:42.540
this point too. It's not just a celebration. It's a life lesson about the incredibly special
01:38:48.900
foundation of our country. And it's a chance to bond with our community over our shared patriotism,
01:38:56.480
something of great value. And sadly, it's more and more scarce these days. It's also something else.
01:39:15.400
The great musical tradition. And those are important too. Year after year, people get used
01:39:21.380
to the commitment of being with one another on this one day, saying the pledge together,
01:39:26.240
sing, singing the anthem together, making the country's birthday a real salute to our shared
01:39:31.700
ideals. Our friends come over in the days beforehand to try on their costumes, which I get for the team
01:39:38.760
because it's just fun for me. We play patriotic music and maybe have a glass of wine. This year,
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my hairstylist did our hair like colonial ladies. We skipped the wigs, most of us gals. And it was
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such a joy getting ready with my friends. This is the before picture. Our kids and their friends never
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say no when we ask them to suit up. They don their getups just as readily as the adults do. And everyone
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knows what a fun day this is. They have zero qualms about dressing the part. It really does add
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something to the festive nature of things, right? To have like kind of just the costumes and the
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whole production on the big day. We put on a little play about the lead up to the declaration of
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independence and the state of mind of the founding fathers at that point, before we get to the big
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reading. And those of us who are on stage meet and go over the script that Doug and I draft together.
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That too is entertaining and full of anticipation this year. Uh, those of us were, we were in the
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kitchen and we read it and it was so fun. Like, you know, like a table read. And then we did a shot
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of tequila before we went. And I think that's also what Thomas Jefferson did before he, we laugh at
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ourselves and each other. We get into character and all the absurd over the top ways, a hoop skirt
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or a colonial wig might inspire this year. We actually stole a few lines from the play,
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the American revolution in which you may remember our 10 year old Thatcher, uh, played Betsy Ross
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earlier this year, along with his fourth grade buddies. Here we are on the fourth with some of
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those borrowed lines. A line has been drawn and I, for one, am prepared to cross it. I am with you,
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brother. No more driving on the left-hand side of the road. No more calling soccer football.
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Give me liberty or give me death. Then it was onto the main event, the reading of the declaration,
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which really is stirring when you hear it read out loud and with vigor.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by
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their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and a pursuit of
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happiness. It is their right. It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards
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for their future security. And so for the support of this declaration with a firm reliance on the
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protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes,
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and our sacred honor. But the best part, the absolute best part has become the big finish,
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which is when the marching band comes down the street, pounding away on their drums as they
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approach, only to burst into song upon arrival, including, of course, the national anthem.
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Watchword and нормально to worship. So again, I think that's the biggest part of this
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Ah, we started this last year and it was a Herculean effort to find a marching band,
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as you may have guessed. But my assistant Abigail Finan has magical powers that made it happen.
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For me, this moment is pure happiness. Last year and this year, I cried tears of joy when that
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marching band came down the street. It's just something about them. And you know, I had many
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of my friends stop me and say they had the same feeling. People are looking to feel patriotic.
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They're looking to be reminded about what's great about this country and feel all the feels that you
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get when you sing those words and think about the lyrics of the anthem. Looking around, seeing our
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kids singing it, hands on their hearts alongside our neighbors, our friends, our community,
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all joined together in song, in celebration of America. It's one of those moments you experience
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knowing every second that passes has become an instant treasured memory. Eventually the party
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wound down and some of our friends migrated to the backyard where we let our hair down a bit
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and partied colonial style, able to relax now that the big show is over and just enjoy being in each
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other's company. We wrap the evening watching the fireworks together, the bombs bursting in air,
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thinking about the beauty and the majesty and the excitement of the night sky and of the day
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behind us. On Sunday, our family went to mass where, as they did last year, they ended the mass with
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the congregation singing God Bless America. What a perfect and beautiful way to cap off our celebratory
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weekend. And though I'm pretty sure it's not allowed, I did sneak a recording of the moment. I didn't
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get anybody on camera because I wanted you to share.
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I heard and guide her through the night with the light from above. From the mountains, to the
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shoreline with the kings, to the enemies to the ocean. You know, God bless America, my home sweet Sukpowered.
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If you were born in the United States of America,
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where merit and hard work can make all the difference for anyone,
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where the poorest of kids can grow up to be president,
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Or a kid like JD Vance, I've been thinking about him lately,
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with verbal and physical abuse all too frequent,
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The country to which millions all over the world flock,
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Take some time to treasure the gift of being an American
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and say happy birthday to this gorgeous country of ours
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sparkling natural lakes, borders flanked by deep blue oceans,