The Megyn Kelly Show - Don Lemon's Lies, Sad and Narcissistic Leftists, and the Beckham Drama, with James Woods, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1234

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00:01:00.700 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:02.580 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.380 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.040 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.540 There is big drama in the world of David Beckham.

00:01:19.760 I mean, I don't think we've ever begun a show that way.

00:01:22.340 But boy, there really is.

00:01:24.420 And Michelle Obama is disappointed in us yet again.

00:01:28.800 She really, really doesn't like the fact that people are buying white-owned fashion brands.

00:01:33.800 She really, really wants you to buy black.

00:01:39.840 Okay?

00:01:40.960 You never go back, apparently.

00:01:44.100 We'll play you the soundbite.

00:01:45.680 Britt and Witt will be here later on some of our cultural issues.

00:01:49.280 That's Britt Mayer and Will Witt.

00:01:50.860 But we begin with the continued fallout from that outrageous action at a Minnesota church on Sunday from anti-ice agitators and Don Lemon.

00:02:00.240 But I repeat myself.

00:02:01.160 As we told you on AM Update, the Department of Justice is now looking into a potential FACE Act.

00:02:06.980 That's that act that prohibits you from messing with people outside of an abortion clinic or, as luck would have it, a religious institution.

00:02:14.700 They're looking into potential charges under that, as well as the so-called Klan Act, which says, basically, you can't conspire with somebody to deprive somebody else of their constitutional rights, like the freedom to worship.

00:02:28.280 And so that second act is more serious.

00:02:32.700 You get charged under the Klan Act, it's a felony on, number one, your first offense.

00:02:37.820 You get charged under the FACE Act, it's a misdemeanor, if it's your first offense.

00:02:43.200 And it's basically slap on the wrist territory.

00:02:46.800 But if it's like a multiple, if it's like your third violation under the FACE Act, that's how they throw grannies in jail outside of abortion clinics. 0.99

00:02:52.840 But I think the reason we're talking about Klan Act charges is because those are all felonies and it's very serious and no one wants to be charged with that.

00:03:02.860 And it's really not it's sort of analogous to what happened in the South when we were trying to desegregate it.

00:03:09.520 And the government was trying to make that happen.

00:03:13.100 And local citizens, Democrats, were not complying and they were conspiring against people's rights.

00:03:21.980 So anyway, it's just an interesting way to think about it.

00:03:25.280 Potentially bad news for Lemon, especially if he's taking legal advice from Minnesota's far left attorney general, Keith Ellison.

00:03:31.380 I mean, that guy, like it's been a long time since I've practiced law, though I remember it well.

00:03:38.420 He's actively the practicing law as the attorney general of Minnesota right now, and he doesn't seem to understand it at all.

00:03:43.900 He thought, for example, that FACE Act ended after protecting abortion clinics.

00:03:47.800 Isn't that just so leftist?

00:03:49.560 Like, OK, as soon as I'm done hearing what's good for my side, I'm going to close the law book and pretend nothing else is in there. 0.93

00:03:56.940 It's sad, though, because he's the state's top law enforcement officer and he doesn't appear to know his legal ass from his elbow, which, of course, we knew when we heard him on tape appearing to conspire with fraudulent Somalis about how he was going to have their back. 0.92

00:04:16.300 He's not an honest broker. 0.81

00:04:18.280 By the way, how does he even have time to go on Don Lemon's podcast to try to rehabilitate him yesterday? 0.94

00:04:23.120 Doesn't he have a damn, like, community to indict in Minneapolis? 0.95

00:04:28.640 All these Somalis? 1.00

00:04:29.560 Oh, wait, I forgot.

00:04:30.640 He was running cover for them.

00:04:31.940 Back to my first point.

00:04:33.380 Here to react to all this and more, one of our very favorite people, film producer, songwriter, multiple Emmy award winning actor, James Woods, who has a new album out right now called Tombstone Opera.

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00:05:49.740 James, welcome back.

00:05:52.340 Great to see you.

00:05:53.540 Dr. Livingston, I presume.

00:05:55.500 I feel like I've been trying to get the two of us together for months.

00:05:59.740 For months.

00:06:00.520 I was so sorry that I missed you in Arizona.

00:06:03.500 And it turned out that I had an emergency surgery a couple of days before when it would have happened.

00:06:09.220 So, it worked out for the better.

00:06:11.100 But now, here we are finally at long last.

00:06:13.020 We missed you.

00:06:13.920 And I have to say.

00:06:14.860 Yes, we always love talking to you.

00:06:16.040 I watched her yesterday and I thought, oh my God, I better not light a match anywhere near Megan.

00:06:21.160 She's so, she's like fuming. 1.00

00:06:23.600 I never saw you as angry as you were yesterday.

00:06:27.020 I was, I was stunned by you.

00:06:28.820 Are you feeling it?

00:06:29.660 I just feel like it was a red line to go into a church and the full force of federal law needs to be brought down on everyone who did it.

00:06:37.020 Right.

00:06:37.240 But there's, there's something here that you're going to be, look, I know what you wanted to hear me say is, 1.00

00:06:42.040 James Woods is going to come on, he's going to rip Don Lemon, a new asshole. 0.99

00:06:45.880 Not that I'd be the first person to have done that, by the way. 1.00

00:06:48.560 Oops.

00:06:49.100 Anyway.

00:06:49.820 So, but the bottom line is, this is all a dog and pony show.

00:06:56.120 It's a trick.

00:06:57.480 I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about.

00:06:59.220 Did you ever see the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson?

00:07:01.480 At the end of The Patriot, the militia guys, the hardworking colonials who want to build this beautiful country, stand on the line against the British regulars.

00:07:12.340 They have no chance of surviving.

00:07:14.500 They break and they run over a hill.

00:07:17.600 The British, now they've got them. 1.00

00:07:19.520 They're going to go over and slaughter them all. 0.78

00:07:20.920 And as they come over the hill, the entire colonial army is waiting for them and wipes them out, sends Bannister Talton to Yorktown to hide with Cornwallis, and they end up surrendering to Washington and America is born.

00:07:36.720 I am a ninth generation descendant of one of the patriots who was one of the militiamen at the Battle of Cowpens, which was just a few days ago, short of 245 years ago.

00:07:48.500 It was in January of 1781.

00:07:53.180 Now, why am I bringing this up?

00:07:54.900 Because they were a diversionary tactic.

00:07:58.400 Don Lemon, a journalist.

00:08:00.520 I mean, this guy, a journalist.

00:08:01.740 Here's another soundbite for you.

00:08:03.220 They're going to love this one. 0.99

00:08:04.400 Don Lemon is the dingleberry hanging off the ass of American journalism. 0.99

00:08:09.480 Okay? 0.99

00:08:09.940 And let me tell you, when CNN got rid of him, they didn't wipe hard enough.

00:08:14.100 But all of that's colorful, and it'll be a headline tomorrow, I know, everywhere.

00:08:19.320 Not as good as me, Nicki Minaj, by the way.

00:08:22.120 And they can't deport me because my family's been here.

00:08:24.060 She brought it.

00:08:24.600 She was great.

00:08:26.760 James Woods and Nicki Minaj, whoever would have thought, two peas in a pop.

00:08:30.280 No way.

00:08:30.640 Anyway, you know, my family's been here since 1721, so I have a pretty good chance of not getting deported, I think.

00:08:36.780 But here's the bottom line.

00:08:38.700 This is a trick.

00:08:40.880 It's a diversion.

00:08:42.300 This small man, Don Lemon, is, you know, he was aware of everything that was going to go on.

00:08:50.900 Oh, we're MAGA-coded.

00:08:52.620 He knew all the strategies because he planned it.

00:08:55.180 He wasn't just embedded.

00:08:56.420 He was literally one of the ringleaders of this heinous act.

00:09:02.520 And, of course, we're all enraged, disgusted, disappointed, just ready to just eat blood-red meat to stop this kind of insanity.

00:09:15.300 And that's what they want us to do.

00:09:17.180 Because you know what they really are trying to do?

00:09:21.020 Divert us from the one thing.

00:09:23.240 You betcha.

00:09:23.980 And it's not just a scandal, Megan.

00:09:25.880 The Democratic Party, every single thing they do is centered on one strategy.

00:09:33.580 How can we stay in power with nothing to offer the American people?

00:09:39.900 There's nothing they have to offer.

00:09:41.360 Nothing.

00:09:41.740 They don't offer anything.

00:09:42.520 All they do is take.

00:09:43.880 They take trillions of dollars, it's turning out, in graft and greed and corruption.

00:09:50.180 Why are they taking the money to fund their campaigns, to make sure that they can get in power? 0.72

00:09:55.540 When they're in power, they open the floodgates.

00:09:57.680 They let unvaccinated, unvetted illegals storm across the border to wreak whatever havoc they're going to wreak. 1.00

00:10:04.720 But the one thing they're going to do is vote Democrat because they know where the money is and they know where the prizes are. 0.99

00:10:11.180 And they know where all the free crap is. 0.85

00:10:14.000 In the old days of Tammany Hall, they'd stand outside a voting booth with five bucks in their hand. 0.98

00:10:17.740 And they pay a guy to vote.

00:10:19.700 You know, my brother ran for mayor in our—my late brother, guy, rest his soul—ran for mayor in our little town in Warwick, Rhode Island.

00:10:30.200 And in Rhode Island, you have to run as a Democrat because you can't win any other way.

00:10:33.700 It's like California.

00:10:34.720 There are no Republicans at all.

00:10:37.040 And anyway, he ran as a Democrat.

00:10:38.580 And, you know, I noticed that, you know, and I support him.

00:10:42.300 People say, you're supporting your brother.

00:10:43.620 Aren't you more—aren't you right-wing?

00:10:45.920 It's like, no, I'm very centrist.

00:10:48.060 I believe in the Constitution.

00:10:49.180 I believe in the laws of the land.

00:10:50.400 My brother's a good and decent man.

00:10:51.960 So I support him.

00:10:53.240 And, you know, he'll have his opinions and I'll have mine.

00:10:57.260 And maybe he'll listen to some of my stuff.

00:10:59.160 Maybe I'll learn something from him.

00:11:00.480 But either way, he's a good man and I support him.

00:11:03.160 Every single fundraiser event where we sit outside supermarkets like people do in local elections,

00:11:10.120 every time you were around a Democrat, the joke was, hey, vote early, vote often.

00:11:15.180 And they say it like, oh, it's a little joke.

00:11:17.220 Except when you say a mantra long enough, there are people who sort of feel it's okay.

00:11:22.580 Why was—everything they do is a scam.

00:11:25.140 Why were they—no kings—no kings.

00:11:28.440 I mean, for Christ's sake.

00:11:29.900 It's so absurd.

00:11:30.840 No kings. 0.98

00:11:31.560 Trump's a dictator.

00:11:32.380 All this stuff. 0.94

00:11:33.180 You know why?

00:11:34.000 If you took a poll of anybody in America and you said, listen, you go back in time and you could assassinate Adolf Hitler, 0.83

00:11:42.760 commit a crime, murder the leader of a country, would you do it? 0.95

00:11:47.800 And yes.

00:11:48.360 Because according to Piaget Kohlberg in their theories of moral development, the greatest level of moral development is even to break the standard law to do a greater good, which any decent human being would know was necessary for the survival of the race.

00:12:04.400 And to rid the world of Hitler was important. 0.97

00:12:07.620 So the ends justify the means. 0.95

00:12:10.840 Now, if you call Donald Trump a dictator and everybody supports him a fascist and we're all Nazis and we're all pedophiles, we're all—you know, you say, listen, we've got to get rid of this guy no matter what. 0.95

00:12:21.520 How is it even possible that any American citizen can watch a presidential candidate, a former president of the United States and about to be the future president of the United States, get shot in the head? 0.97

00:12:35.660 Oh, it was only in his ear.

00:12:37.000 Okay.

00:12:37.740 Three inches over and his brains would be splattered across the podium the way John Kennedy's were across the back of a limousine.

00:12:45.620 Okay.

00:12:46.180 And we've been watching that video, the Zapruder film, for 40, 50 years.

00:12:51.040 Okay.

00:12:51.360 Now, why is it there were people making jokes, entertainers making jokes from the stage?

00:12:57.100 You know, I mean—

00:12:59.400 Journalists questioning whether it even happened while Corey Crompitori is dead behind him.

00:13:04.360 Yeah.

00:13:04.500 —suggesting the whole thing is an op that Trump did just to make himself look good.

00:13:09.040 But listen, I—so let me ask you this, because I agree with you.

00:13:12.220 The Somali fraud scandal is of epically bad proportions for the Democrats.

00:13:16.720 And don't take the bait.

00:13:17.520 And don't take the bait.

00:13:19.520 But, but, but, okay, but I disagree on that point, because—

00:13:23.440 Well, what, I'm not saying that you shouldn't take the bait.

00:13:25.560 You can't—like, what next?

00:13:27.500 Do they storm a maternity ward and terrorize the babies and we just say don't take the bait? 1.00

00:13:33.160 No, fuck them. 1.00

00:13:34.240 Fuck them. 1.00

00:13:34.760 We can fight many battles at once. 1.00

00:13:36.760 When you asked that question, they saw the maternity ward.

00:13:39.200 This is the party of—that murdered 50 million babies in the womb. 0.92

00:13:43.620 I mean, you know—

00:13:44.720 Yeah, which is why I wouldn't want them anywhere near the maternity ward. 0.99

00:13:46.540 Of course you would.

00:13:47.040 But I'm just saying, like, we have to fight.

00:13:50.300 Certain tactics go beyond.

00:13:52.760 And they must be answered.

00:13:53.780 And I agree with you 100%.

00:13:55.620 It's a new low.

00:13:57.080 I agree with you 100%.

00:13:58.640 But in the process of doing that, okay, we can't—you know, it's that bright, shiny object.

00:14:05.880 Oh, look over here.

00:14:07.120 And it's like, oh, you know, when Nicki Minaj pointed out all the heinous things that this little man, 0.99

00:14:12.260 this fake journalist, this pathetic, mean-spirited, racist, poor excuse for an American, decided to lead this mob into a Rockwell painting. 0.98

00:14:29.120 I mean, this little kid sitting with their parents worshiping God. 0.99

00:14:32.040 I mean, when that all happened, the only thing that the liberal press reported in the newspaper was the unfortunate word that she used.

00:14:42.260 And when we start, you know, the only thing Michelle Obama— 0.99

00:14:46.040 I believe the word you're looking for is cocksucker? 1.00

00:14:47.920 Yeah. 0.99

00:14:48.260 Is that what we're talking about?

00:14:49.280 The Nicki Minaj tweet.

00:14:51.620 Yeah.

00:14:51.900 Just to put a lovely spin on it.

00:14:53.640 Let's see.

00:14:54.060 She tweeted out about lemon. 0.99

00:14:56.400 Don, cocksucking lemon, forgive me, is disgusting. 1.00

00:15:00.460 How dare you? 1.00

00:15:02.040 I want that thug in jail. 1.00

00:15:03.620 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:03.880 He would never do that to any other religion.

00:15:06.160 Lock him up. 0.73

00:15:07.300 And then a picture of, like, the maniacal doll.

00:15:11.220 I don't actually know this particular doll.

00:15:12.740 This is probably somebody from some horror movie, but I don't do horror.

00:15:15.660 It's too disturbing to her.

00:15:16.760 Her name actually is Megan, but we'll talk about that another time.

00:15:20.220 Oh, that's Megan?

00:15:20.920 Oh, I did see Megan.

00:15:22.100 I did see Megan.

00:15:23.480 I didn't recognize her.

00:15:24.500 The wrong spelling, though.

00:15:25.480 She's got the Democrat spelling.

00:15:26.860 And now people are ripping on—

00:15:28.240 Yeah, they're now ripping on Nicki Minaj for being homophobic. 0.67

00:15:31.660 Hello?

00:15:32.940 Beside the point, it's not homophobic.

00:15:34.780 She's using a slur to rattle him because she's ticked off.

00:15:38.300 It says nothing of how she feels about gays.

00:15:40.160 But here's what I think you were right about.

00:15:42.020 But when the Democrats invested in the kind of lawfare that it was so egregious that it

00:15:51.900 literally undermined the fabric of our legal system and of our nation—I mean, 132 indictments

00:16:00.360 for a law that wasn't even on the books and all this stuff and the fake impeachments and

00:16:04.620 all that stuff.

00:16:05.020 Well, of course, it backfired on them.

00:16:07.520 I agree that we've got to do—we've got to just honor the law.

00:16:13.360 Our job is to obey the law and enforce the law.

00:16:18.840 Our law enforcement officers, whether they be the immigration services, Homeland Security,

00:16:29.940 FBI, local police, they swear an oath to uphold the laws of the land.

00:16:36.900 You may not like the laws.

00:16:38.240 I'm a Roman Catholic.

00:16:39.220 I think abortion is murder. 0.96

00:16:40.980 I'm not going to go out and shoot an abortion doctor because I disagree. 0.85

00:16:44.560 I'm not going to shed a tear if those people have an unfortunate life because, in my mind, 0.98

00:16:50.520 they're killers. 0.63

00:16:51.200 But I've got to obey the laws of the land.

00:16:53.860 These people have decided that they're going to recreate the Constitution out of whole cloth.

00:16:59.060 And it's ironic.

00:16:59.940 It's during the 250th anniversary celebration of the Declaration of Independence, which was

00:17:05.120 centered on—

00:17:05.800 You point out that this is like—this is all part of the Democrats' plan to get elected

00:17:09.700 because they want illegals here and they want them ultimately voting.

00:17:12.180 They need them here.

00:17:13.100 And what—like, look—well, look at Virginia.

00:17:15.580 You know, I—just as recently as 20 years ago when I started at Fox News, Virginia was

00:17:19.760 red.

00:17:20.300 Oh, yeah.

00:17:20.680 It wasn't purple.

00:17:21.840 It certainly wasn't blue.

00:17:23.120 It was red.

00:17:24.540 And it was pretty firmly deep red state, southern state.

00:17:30.040 And it quickly, quickly migrated into purple and then into blue.

00:17:34.000 And what is Abigail Spamberger's first act when she becomes—when she gets sworn in as governor

00:17:40.220 there?

00:17:40.740 She stops the cooperation with ICE.

00:17:43.100 She wants to make it easier for every illegal in Virginia to do whatever the hell they want. 1.00

00:17:49.940 She doesn't care that they're going to be molesting children. 1.00

00:17:52.960 They're going to be murdering innocent moms like we've seen. 1.00

00:17:56.380 What she really cares about is that they get to vote, James.

00:17:59.500 And that's obvious because Democrats keep doing it in state after state after state.

00:18:03.940 But it isn't just something that they believe in fervently in their heart.

00:18:07.840 They simply will not survive as a political party.

00:18:12.060 They will not survive if they have to rely on American citizens voting for them in a federal

00:18:20.820 election.

00:18:22.280 Okay?

00:18:22.600 If it were only American citizens and you could take away all the fraudulent mail-in ballots 0.96

00:18:27.180 and ballot harvesting and all the rest of the nonsense that they do, if you could get

00:18:31.680 rid of all the pallets of ballots coming in, you know, and the trunks of cars when the pipes

00:18:37.180 break at four in the morning and, you know, nine days of counting and, you know—I mean,

00:18:42.980 we just have elections.

00:18:43.740 They count all the ballots by 10 o'clock at night.

00:18:46.080 But they have to have this because they cannot get elected with the numbers the way they are.

00:18:53.880 What percentage did you think?

00:18:55.240 Absolutely.

00:18:55.840 What percentage did you—

00:18:56.480 And so they'll do what they have to.

00:18:58.920 I mean, at some level, you almost have to admire it because they're so ruthless.

00:19:03.540 I mean, I don't admire unethical people.

00:19:05.840 But my point is simply they will do what they have to do in order to win these elections.

00:19:10.440 And they're kind of open about it.

00:19:12.100 But I do want to get back to Lemon for this.

00:19:16.540 It's interesting to me that he's lying about it.

00:19:19.140 So he—I think he's scared.

00:19:21.220 He doesn't—I don't think he realized that he was breaking federal laws when he entered

00:19:25.680 that church and disturbed people in their place of worship, intimidating them and part

00:19:30.460 of the crew that was physically obstructing them.

00:19:32.920 I don't think he understood.

00:19:34.240 And I think now he understands there actually is a real chance that he's going to be in serious

00:19:37.280 legal trouble, especially if he gets charged on that Klan Act, because now we're talking

00:19:40.780 felony.

00:19:42.100 At a minimum, he trespassed.

00:19:43.720 However, trespass is not a federal crime.

00:19:45.540 So what are the odds of him getting charged?

00:19:47.520 Zero.

00:19:48.040 For that by Minnesota officials.

00:19:49.560 So it's got to be one of these federal crimes, which means it's likely serious.

00:19:53.120 And we'll see whether or not they have him.

00:19:54.960 It actually is fact-specific.

00:19:56.820 They're going to be looking at how much he did that sounded more like protester versus

00:20:01.840 how much he did that sounded more like journalist.

00:20:03.900 But he's lying about his behavior, which is a tell.

00:20:06.680 He went on the crazy podcast of that very angry, weird-faced woman, Jennifer. 0.96

00:20:11.780 What's her name?

00:20:12.940 Welch?

00:20:13.800 All she does is yell. 1.00

00:20:15.240 Yeah.

00:20:15.600 Yeah.

00:20:15.740 Thank you.

00:20:16.240 All she does is yell hateful things about Republicans.

00:20:18.540 And I guess that's her shtick.

00:20:21.460 Here he is.

00:20:22.300 Listen, he claims he didn't know that he and his cabal were going to a church.

00:20:27.600 Listen to me for it.

00:20:28.560 It's not one.

00:20:29.660 They said, well, there's this thing happening that they've been sending out flyers for.

00:20:33.120 Perhaps you want to cover this.

00:20:34.640 So I said, sure.

00:20:35.520 And I went, okay, I'll cover.

00:20:36.700 And then when I went to cover it, they said, we're doing this protest that is sort of similar

00:20:42.840 to the civil rights movement, where they show up places and they sort of disrupt the peace,

00:20:47.400 like sitting in at lunch counters or drinking out of water fountains that were only supposed

00:20:52.140 to be for white people.

00:20:52.880 And I said, sure, I'll go.

00:20:53.880 I'll chronicle it.

00:20:54.880 And they ended up at a church.

00:20:56.000 I didn't even know they were going to a church.

00:20:57.400 And they ended up at a church.

00:20:59.060 And so once they went in and did their thing, other journalists started going in and I went

00:21:03.620 in.

00:21:03.960 So I'm not exactly sure, Jen, how I became the face of it, unless they just think I'm

00:21:07.480 the bigger name, but it's bizarre.

00:21:08.840 And I reported on it.

00:21:10.040 I interviewed everyone there, the pastor, some of the congregants and the protesters.

00:21:15.560 And that was it.

00:21:16.400 And now all of a sudden it blew up into this big thing where I am the one who is leading

00:21:21.340 the protest and somehow I'm the agitator here when I'm just the journalist.

00:21:25.440 OK, just let me just make a couple of points before I play you the soundbite of him before

00:21:30.460 he went in.

00:21:31.280 He didn't.

00:21:32.040 Oh, and I just interviewed.

00:21:32.860 I just documented it.

00:21:34.060 No one wanted to talk to him.

00:21:35.460 The pastor made clear.

00:21:36.740 No one wants you here.

00:21:38.120 No one wants to talk to you.

00:21:39.340 Get out. 1.00

00:21:39.720 Put your stupid mic away and get out. 1.00

00:21:41.980 Yeah. 1.00

00:21:42.260 So he knew very well.

00:21:43.620 He wasn't just there.

00:21:44.300 I was innocently documenting.

00:21:45.600 No, you were part of the harassment.

00:21:47.500 You were you were pushing that mic into the faces of people who did not want you there.

00:21:51.240 And you had no right to be there and they had every right to eject you and your harassment

00:21:56.160 continued.

00:21:57.000 But here, as for his claim that I had no idea we were going to a church, listen to him before

00:22:03.860 the protest began on Sunday morning on site.

00:22:08.580 Sot2.

00:22:08.960 As Nakeem has said, this is clandestine, the clandestine operation.

00:22:16.280 And then we can tell you what's going to happen after.

00:22:18.340 We don't know what's happening.

00:22:19.740 We kind of do, but we don't know how it's going to play out.

00:22:23.320 OK, so we are here now.

00:22:27.480 Do you think if you just have it?

00:22:29.200 I think maybe if you just have it on the church, but they see me.

00:22:34.620 On the what, Don?

00:22:35.880 They're going to know.

00:22:36.640 No, I don't.

00:22:40.260 It just depends.

00:22:42.880 What?

00:22:44.160 Don't name the location.

00:22:45.500 I'm not naming the location.

00:22:46.980 But I mean, I mean, I'm just wondering if you see me.

00:22:50.700 I mean, the folks inside are the are the congregants really on live instead of in service right

00:22:55.260 now.

00:22:55.660 No, but they'll be like, why is Don Lemon here?

00:22:58.820 Sunday morning.

00:22:59.700 Sunday morning church.

00:23:00.900 Yeah.

00:23:01.300 OK, we'll see.

00:23:04.380 He's well, what else?

00:23:05.900 It's Sunday.

00:23:06.640 We already said the church.

00:23:08.280 No, we didn't.

00:23:09.120 You said it.

00:23:11.980 OK, they didn't name the church, James, but they said repeatedly at the church, the congregants 1.00

00:23:16.640 has the service started and this idiot let him get away with. 0.99

00:23:20.940 I didn't even know we were going to a church throughout that interview. 1.00

00:23:24.060 So he's trying to rehabilitate himself by lying, which shows a consciousness of guilt.

00:23:28.160 Right.

00:23:28.600 You know, almost every crime that is committed gets escalated when intent is involved, intent,

00:23:37.640 conspiracy.

00:23:38.580 These things are very serious when a person has a plan in mind that is not what they try

00:23:46.420 to make it appear when the event takes place.

00:23:48.820 You know, if if a person says, I'm going to defend my household and they stand outside and

00:23:56.080 they're looking for trouble and, you know, they make comments and wise guy, wise acre comments

00:24:02.300 about shooting people in their houses and so on.

00:24:04.300 You have to be very careful about those things because they sometimes can indicate intent and

00:24:14.020 other times just frustration and so on.

00:24:16.980 Look, this was an operation.

00:24:20.020 I mean, it's an operation.

00:24:21.240 It's like he's in Delta Force. 0.99

00:24:23.520 I mean, he's just such a he's just he's just such a buffoon. 0.99

00:24:26.700 But the bottom line is the last person you want to turn into a martyr is this ridiculous 1.00

00:24:31.940 clown. 1.00

00:24:32.980 OK, he's just a ridiculous person and you don't want to turn him into a martyr. 1.00

00:24:37.920 But you do want to make it clear something Michael Knoll said yesterday on your podcast 0.99

00:24:41.980 that was so right.

00:24:43.260 You have to stand up and enforce the law and you have to be tough about it.

00:24:48.800 You don't like it too bad.

00:24:50.160 You're going to go to jail.

00:24:51.180 Look, our drug problem is killing thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands

00:24:56.920 of Americans.

00:24:58.220 OK, our drug problem is our immigration problem. 0.96

00:25:01.020 Our immigration problem is a Democrat strategy to stay alive as a political party.

00:25:07.400 You know where they don't have a drug problem?

00:25:09.780 Singapore.

00:25:10.520 They catch you with drugs. 0.99

00:25:12.040 They cut your head off. 1.00

00:25:14.180 OK, or hang you, whatever they do over there. 1.00

00:25:16.300 Don't do it. 0.99

00:25:17.680 I mean, you know, that would do it.

00:25:19.100 That would put an end to it right quick.

00:25:20.260 You know, there is there there are times there years and years ago, there's a movie

00:25:25.060 that was written based on a book by George Higgins called The Friends of Eddie Coyle.

00:25:31.520 And in it, they these guys decided they're going to heist a bank or something.

00:25:36.120 I can't remember what the crime was.

00:25:37.600 And one of the guys they give Robert Mitchum, who plays Eddie Coyle, a machine gun, I think.

00:25:42.100 I'm not remembering just right.

00:25:43.520 But the point being in Massachusetts for years, it may still be the law.

00:25:48.100 If you committed a crime with a machine gun, it was unequivocal, mandatory, mandatory,

00:25:57.240 not up to discretion of some liberal judge, mandatory life imprisonment without parole,

00:26:03.000 without exception in every case.

00:26:05.660 That's it. 0.99

00:26:06.460 You're going to jail till the day you die. 1.00

00:26:08.620 OK. 1.00

00:26:09.840 Mm hmm.

00:26:10.240 Even the mafia, they didn't use machine guns.

00:26:13.040 They don't use a machine gun. 0.98

00:26:14.140 What are you crazy?

00:26:15.160 If we get caught, that's it. 0.98

00:26:16.360 We're done.

00:26:16.800 There's no way out.

00:26:18.380 Now, in Chicago, where you have a mass murder every weekend, these gangs shooting each other,

00:26:25.040 they have a thing called a giggle switch on their Glocks.

00:26:27.680 It's a Glock switch.

00:26:28.640 It's a switch you can put on your handgun.

00:26:30.580 You squeeze the trigger.

00:26:31.560 And if you have a 30-round magazine, you can rip off 30 rounds like a machine gun.

00:26:37.580 And they do it all the time.

00:26:39.100 It's like they use them all the time now.

00:26:41.680 The police are up against these lunatics with basically machine guns.

00:26:46.840 But nobody enforces that law with any force.

00:26:51.900 You start enforcing the law.

00:26:54.460 Look, how many times have you watched Kamala?

00:26:56.720 Now's the time.

00:26:57.380 But Kamala, I've been to the border.

00:26:59.480 You haven't been to the border.

00:27:00.260 I've been to the border.

00:27:01.000 No, you haven't.

00:27:01.940 Well, I've been to Europe.

00:27:03.400 That Kamala Harris, the border czar who'd never been to the border.

00:27:07.680 You know, how many times do you have to listen to her and Mayorkas and Biden?

00:27:11.360 Poor Biden.

00:27:11.900 I don't make fun of him because he's got Alzheimer's.

00:27:14.200 Stop that right now.

00:27:14.780 We're not ripping on Kamala anymore until she gets the nomination. 1.00

00:27:18.500 Just keep your powder dry.

00:27:20.320 Let's let her sail right in there. 1.00

00:27:21.680 She really believes she can do it.

00:27:23.080 Wait, I want to keep going.

00:27:23.880 There's a way I have a ton to get to.

00:27:24.840 I only have you for an hour.

00:27:26.640 I got to show you this.

00:27:27.720 So separate and apart from, you know, the criminal charges and all that.

00:27:31.680 And we actually are going to have a deep dive on the criminal charges tomorrow with Dave Ehrenberg and Mike Davis on this program.

00:27:35.360 So you won't have have a better legal debate anywhere.

00:27:37.740 But here, of course, he goes back to his priors.

00:27:42.020 He's all excited that he's the center of attention and he's got to raise all the things that he always raises.

00:27:48.860 Like, first, I'm a gay black man in responding to Nicki Minaj.

00:27:53.220 And then also these accusations, which we heard from him in one way, shape or form throughout his entirety on CNN and certainly since he's gone, quote, independent.

00:28:02.080 Sat for.

00:28:03.820 I think that there is obviously this there's racism.

00:28:06.820 And at the whole point of it is that they're trying to they're detaining people on the streets because of accents and the color of their skin.

00:28:12.560 And they're also targeting targeting people of color and black people as well as as brown people.

00:28:18.000 So there is a certain degree of racism there.

00:28:20.380 And there's a certain degree of entitlement.

00:28:21.720 I think people who are, you know, in religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy.

00:28:33.400 And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country when actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom.

00:28:39.760 It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much. 0.63

00:28:44.200 And so, yeah, absolutely, 100 percent.

00:28:46.300 But it's an intimidation tactic.

00:28:50.060 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:28:51.080 I guarantee you all the people in that church are are supreme versus Don Lemon.

00:28:55.700 But I speak of intellect and class and manners. 0.63

00:28:59.240 Well, Don Lemon is a bit of a racist himself, if I'm not mistaken.

00:29:03.900 He's always a bit.

00:29:04.860 He's literally MAGA coded as if you're white or if you have the American flag.

00:29:09.460 It's like, you know.

00:29:10.840 Great.

00:29:11.520 A lot of people in my family were white and had the American flag and shed blood for it. 0.97

00:29:16.700 You know, my dad had two purple hearts in World War Two, you know, and in the Korean War.

00:29:21.480 He didn't probably I wasn't wounded in the Korean War.

00:29:23.580 But, you know, I just took it for granted that that, you know, Americans have shed blood for for more people shed blood in the Civil War for people with black skin. 0.87

00:29:34.380 And then in every war since combined, more Americans died.

00:29:40.060 Look how casually he throws that out there, James.

00:29:41.660 He smears just these these these people sitting in a church in Minnesota, minding their own business.

00:29:48.700 He has no evidence that any of them supports ICE or doesn't.

00:29:52.020 There was an unconfirmed report that one of the pastors may have had an affiliation with ICE.

00:29:56.160 So what?

00:29:56.580 That's it.

00:29:57.060 Like nothing, nothing about anybody in the church, all the members who were there, the children, all smeared as white supremacists and not practicing his brand of Christianity.

00:30:07.480 Based on what?

00:30:09.640 You know, Megan, it is really pretty simple.

00:30:11.740 If somebody is breaking the law or has broken the law, the law enforcement people that we hire or vote for are responsible, are obligated to rectify that.

00:30:27.840 And, you know, ICE in particular has been going after there was a statistic yesterday that Secretary of Homeland Homeland, Homeland Secretary Noam broadcast to the news.

00:30:41.900 Seventy percent of the people that ICE have arrested so far either have outstanding warrants or have committed crimes, violent crimes in the past.

00:30:52.180 I mean, what?

00:30:53.340 Why?

00:30:54.440 You know, I have a friend who's a poker player.

00:30:56.200 He was in a Mexican gang.

00:30:58.160 His last name is actually Irish.

00:31:00.340 He's a great guy.

00:31:01.440 We're friends.

00:31:01.900 And he goes, hey, man.

00:31:02.780 Dinner at your house is going to be fun.

00:31:04.460 But if you saw this guy, this guy gangbanger, he's one of the greatest poker players.

00:31:08.000 He has three bracelets, World Series bracelets.

00:31:10.820 He's a genius poker player.

00:31:12.540 And we've become great friends.

00:31:14.180 He goes, hey, man, I hear you're against immigrants.

00:31:17.020 I said, there's not a single person in the United States who isn't an immigrant, including the so-called, you know, 1.00

00:31:23.500 you know, tribes that actually came across the Bering Strait into North America.

00:31:30.680 But, you know, I'm against illegal, illegal immigration.

00:31:36.720 There's such a thing as legal immigration.

00:31:39.240 And the people who actually work hard to have legal immigration work so hard to do it.

00:31:45.040 They have to get a lawyer and they study.

00:31:48.340 And I guarantee you, by the time they get their citizenship, so many of the legal immigrants in this country know more about the Constitution than half the people probably sitting in Congress, certainly the Democrats.

00:32:01.000 Although I will say a lot of these Somalis have become naturalized citizens.

00:32:04.800 And now there's a push to denaturalize them, take away that citizenship if they've committed any sort of fraud or crime or, you know, welfare fraud, what have you.

00:32:15.600 And I'm totally behind that, too. You don't get to come here, game the system just to get yourself declared an American, just so you can mooch off the rest of us. 0.64

00:32:23.620 Get out and stop with the mooching. 1.00

00:32:25.600 Here's one more from Lemon.

00:32:27.380 His thoughts on ICE, Sat 6.

00:32:32.420 Attention, ICE.

00:32:33.860 Let me just say something that most people, most journalists will not say.

00:32:37.360 They can't say it. I understand that.

00:32:39.080 But I'm an independent journalist now, so I can't say it. 1.00

00:32:42.840 Fuck off, ICE. Fuck all the way off. 1.00

00:32:45.380 You are low-life losers, and you feel empowered by your dear leader, Donald Trump. 1.00

00:32:52.600 You have never had this position of power before, small person. 1.00

00:32:58.420 And you are treating people in an inhumane way, and you don't even understand why, because you're too dumb to figure it out. 1.00

00:33:07.460 You are the poorly educated that Donald Trump loves. 1.00

00:33:10.200 That's who you are. And you're out there doing his bidding, doing things that are illegal, doing things that are unconstitutional, doing things that are inhumane, like killing someone. 0.98

00:33:20.360 Because you're pissed off. 1.00

00:33:22.980 You are fat, fuck losers who just crawled out of a trailer park from some Proud Boy meeting, or if not worse. 1.00

00:33:32.920 At least that was two weeks ago. 1.00

00:33:36.420 You know who lives in trailer parks?

00:33:38.700 People who have sacrificed their lives or limbs for this country in wars throughout its history.

00:33:45.260 You know, the fat people that he derives and so on. 1.00

00:33:50.520 Fuck losers. 1.00

00:33:50.760 Yeah, you know, they're working hard. 1.00

00:33:53.140 I'll tell you who's really, really disgusting people. 0.85

00:33:57.680 The people who don't speak English with a driver's license in a truck, killing eight-year-old children in crosswalks. 0.99

00:34:03.720 Drunks. 0.99

00:34:04.160 The ones who raped all of these women we see, you know, page after page on X. 1.00

00:34:12.220 I look at all these stories about the illegals who are raping and murdering. 1.00

00:34:17.460 And, oh, we can do that. 0.99

00:34:18.680 Where are we going from? 1.00

00:34:19.520 We can rape 12-year-olds. 1.00

00:34:21.920 It's just, it's appalling. 0.99

00:34:24.200 And when he said, regular journalists can't say this, but I can say it.

00:34:29.320 So, in other words, there's a special class of journalists.

00:34:32.980 Here's what journalism is about.

00:34:34.340 Getting the facts, reporting the facts, and doing it without fear or favor and without bias. 0.99

00:34:40.900 When you say, fuck ICE, what you're saying is, fuck the federal government in their obligation, 1.00

00:34:49.340 their sworn obligation to the Constitution, oath on a Bible, to enforce the laws of the land. 1.00

00:34:57.920 So, when he says that, he just, I didn't think it was possible for him to degrade himself any further. 0.99

00:35:04.100 He's a buffoon. 0.98

00:35:05.220 But he's managed with this dog and pony show he did. 0.99

00:35:08.480 But this is a strain with him.

00:35:09.040 This is a strain.

00:35:09.880 We've seen this from him time and time again.

00:35:12.840 We've played the soundbite for our audience many times of him with those two other losers from the Lincoln Project, 0.93

00:35:17.740 making fun of Trump voters. 0.91

00:35:19.340 With their maps, yeah, like Ukraine, like, oh, with their maps and their math. 1.00

00:35:25.740 In, like, you know, the fake Southern accent, like, what a bunch of idiots down there in the South. 1.00

00:35:31.540 And now you hear it again. 1.00

00:35:32.940 The poorly educated that, oh, so you're shit if you're poorly educated in Don Lemon's world. 1.00

00:35:41.240 Trailer park fat fuck losers. 1.00

00:35:43.700 Oh, what is wrong with the trailer park? 1.00

00:35:45.520 Honestly, Don Lemon, the only reason he has tons of money, James, is because he's done serial lawsuits against people over and over and over to pad his wallet because he's too incompetent when it comes to talent to earn the money the old-fashioned way.

00:36:00.800 That's why Don Lemon is rich.

00:36:02.540 He, suing Elon Musk, that's not his first lawsuit.

00:36:07.420 Trust me on that.

00:36:08.560 I have documented many of them. 1.00

00:36:10.520 And he now sits there in his ivory tower looking down on the people who made him a name, who helped him get at least some portion of that money from CNN, but he looks at them like they're shit. 1.00

00:36:24.600 He finds them disgusting if they commit the one sin of wanting to see illegals who molest their children get kicked out. 0.99

00:36:34.540 Don Lemon, Don Lemon is a small man. 0.99

00:36:38.380 He's a small man, period.

00:36:42.440 That's it.

00:36:42.820 Yeah, I mean, honestly, man is a stretch for Don Lemon.

00:36:46.340 I don't know what he is.

00:36:47.300 He's definitely been, he's definitely been stretched.

00:36:52.360 I mean, just man, the word man is almost a compliment.

00:36:56.020 You know what I mean?

00:36:56.500 Like an actual man connotes character above all, in my mind.

00:37:01.020 He doesn't have it.

00:37:01.860 I don't know what he is. 0.98

00:37:02.600 He's just a little worm, just a little, you know, I look forward to seeing him have to handle this whole controversy. 0.95

00:37:08.000 You know, it's back in, I'm older than you, obviously. 0.93

00:37:14.800 When I was in my college years, the Vietnam War was raging.

00:37:19.320 People had different opinions.

00:37:21.040 The opinions were, you know, people were inflamed, enraged.

00:37:25.920 But you could at least say, okay, I disagree with so-and-so vehemently.

00:37:30.540 But the one thing I can do is I can understand where they're coming from, where they think they're coming from.

00:37:37.260 It makes sense.

00:37:38.080 The one thing I didn't approve of, even if you were against the war and there were people who were passionate, they didn't believe that, you know, that we had our presence there was justified.

00:37:49.500 But then they'd spit on soldiers and they'd go, oh, these guys, they're drafted.

00:37:53.240 They can't do anything.

00:37:54.680 They've got to go over there.

00:37:55.800 They've got to do their thing.

00:37:56.980 Or they volunteered, very heroic people like Jim Stockdale.

00:38:01.080 I played him in a movie once and got to know him.

00:38:03.400 He's a magnificent man, great war hero.

00:38:08.020 Ross Perot is running me.

00:38:09.380 Yeah.

00:38:09.980 But here's the thing.

00:38:11.440 I don't understand what these people are on about.

00:38:15.540 I don't understand how Don Lemon is thinking.

00:38:20.140 I just don't understand what he's in.

00:38:23.440 Yes, I think you're right.

00:38:24.100 I mean, if you do.

00:38:25.200 Look, what do you want?

00:38:26.300 If you have a nation, what do you want?

00:38:27.960 You want borders.

00:38:29.680 You have to have borders.

00:38:30.520 That defines a nation.

00:38:31.640 You have to have borders.

00:38:34.240 They have to be enforced.

00:38:36.640 You have to have a military for enemies foreign. 0.81

00:38:40.260 You have to have law enforcement for enemies within.

00:38:43.760 You have to have regulations in place to have an economy.

00:38:47.600 And more than any of it, you need two things.

00:38:51.880 You need free and fair elections. 0.98

00:38:55.420 And you need the right of the populace to bear arms in case these motherfuckers don't do what the Constitution tells them they must. 0.99

00:39:08.360 It's just it's so I'm sorry, but it is infuriating. 0.98

00:39:12.040 Like I think about.

00:39:14.140 My my dad died when I was in high school.

00:39:16.500 But my mom remarried.

00:39:19.100 Yeah, we talked about that at one point.

00:39:21.920 But my mom remarried and the man she remarried when I was young, like 19, had three kids of his own that he brought into the family.

00:39:30.400 And ever since, they've been part of my family.

00:39:33.420 And one of those children was a young man named Patrick, who unfortunately died at age 47 of a heart attack.

00:39:41.020 And it was tragic.

00:39:42.080 But my point is simply, Patrick did not go to MIT like you, James Woods.

00:39:47.860 He was a dear, sweet guy who wound up managing a Rite Aid, which is fine.

00:39:54.240 There's there's absolutely nothing wrong with managing a Rite Aid.

00:39:56.240 It was actually a lot of work for the guy.

00:39:57.580 And he was really good at it.

00:39:58.740 And you know where he lived?

00:40:00.260 He lived in a trailer.

00:40:01.340 Yeah.

00:40:01.500 And he married a nice woman who loved him and helped him raise his kids.

00:40:05.780 And he was a genuinely good man, like absolutely a person of character, would never have crossed an ethical line or treated anybody poorly. 0.99

00:40:14.740 And to hear this elitist fucking snot sit there and dismiss anybody who lives in a trailer as some sort of scum that can't be in the presence of Don Lemon while in the same breath ripping people who are poorly educated. 0.99

00:40:28.140 I don't know. 1.00

00:40:29.300 I had my team just check.

00:40:30.680 I had no idea where Don Lemon went to college.

00:40:32.500 Brooklyn College.

00:40:33.400 OK.

00:40:33.800 And some other university he appears to have left.

00:40:36.900 But he spent the rest of his life looking down on people who didn't take that step, mocking anybody who votes Republican. 1.00

00:40:44.020 But that's the underlying implication as stupid idiots. 1.00

00:40:47.240 And honestly, it's no accident that he became one of the faces of CNN. 1.00

00:40:51.300 Oh, of course.

00:40:51.880 That's what the CNNs and the MSNBCs of the world, that's exactly what they're looking for.

00:40:58.320 They're not news organizations.

00:40:59.920 They're propaganda organs for the Democratic Party.

00:41:02.420 Don't kid yourself.

00:41:03.480 I'm going to tell you something about a trailer park.

00:41:05.480 My beloved mother, my beloved mother used to love to play cards at night.

00:41:09.200 And she used to play with all these ladies, you know. 1.00

00:41:11.540 And there was this couple, George and Lou Loof.

00:41:16.080 And George and Lou, they're both like, they look like Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

00:41:19.340 They're two little round people and so on.

00:41:20.860 And my mom would say, hey, I'm going to go out with George and Lou.

00:41:24.920 And she said, why don't you come to lunch with her?

00:41:26.660 I go, ma, you know, Lou's always like laughing and giggling.

00:41:29.240 George doesn't say a word.

00:41:30.660 I don't know what to do.

00:41:32.520 But okay, I'll do it because I'd be visiting and I didn't get to see her as much as I'd like to when she was in Florida.

00:41:37.620 So I go out to lunch with him.

00:41:39.360 And one day she said, we're going to go to the beach.

00:41:41.040 We're going to go to Clearwater Beach.

00:41:42.600 It's so beautiful down there, Clearwater, one of the most beautiful beaches in Florida.

00:41:46.220 And I said, okay, George, you're going to go to the beach.

00:41:48.080 He goes, oh.

00:41:49.320 I said, okay, good.

00:41:51.220 So we go to the beach.

00:41:52.240 And the lady said, let's go down and dip our toe in the water. 1.00

00:41:54.880 And we'll take a water.

00:41:55.620 And they go, come on, George, dip our toe in the water.

00:41:57.820 And he goes, no, thank you.

00:41:59.380 Nope.

00:42:00.260 I said, so, George, I guess I'll sit here with you.

00:42:02.420 I said, so, George, you like it there in the trailer park?

00:42:08.920 He goes, yeah, it's nice.

00:42:09.640 We've got a little clubhouse.

00:42:11.320 Yeah, it's nice.

00:42:12.100 I like it.

00:42:12.620 Yeah.

00:42:13.580 And I said, but you don't like the water much, do you?

00:42:15.800 He goes, nah.

00:42:17.300 I'm not crazy about the water.

00:42:18.960 I said, well, how about boats?

00:42:19.780 You can get in a boat.

00:42:20.540 You don't have to be on the boat.

00:42:21.720 He goes, I really don't like boats.

00:42:25.420 I said, well, Jesus, George, I mean, were you ever on a boat?

00:42:30.000 He goes, oh, yeah.

00:42:32.400 I said, what did the boat sink or something?

00:42:35.640 He goes, yeah.

00:42:37.520 I said, you were on a boat that sunk?

00:42:40.600 He said, yeah, I was on four of them.

00:42:44.760 I said, what?

00:42:46.200 You were on four boats that sunk?

00:42:48.580 He said, yeah.

00:42:49.140 I said, where?

00:42:49.800 He said, Omaha Beach, June 6, 1944.

00:42:53.580 I brought those boys on shore and they died.

00:42:56.020 I managed to get, you know, get the boat halfway back.

00:43:00.900 Some of the boats sunk.

00:43:02.040 This guy was on Omaha Beach living in a trailer park and Don Lemon would have to stand on a 1.00

00:43:07.640 step letter to be able to sniff his ass. 1.00

00:43:11.000 That's how worthless Don Lemon is. 1.00

00:43:12.100 Perfectly said. 0.98

00:43:14.320 His obsession with race. 0.91

00:43:17.100 I mean, again, I'm the face of this because I'm a black gay man. 0.72

00:43:20.180 Oh, please. 0.53

00:43:20.840 His last words practically before CNN fired him, he wanted to remind new managers, I'm black and I'm gay. 0.90

00:43:26.020 I'm black and I'm gay, as this is a force field around you. 0.96

00:43:29.320 You cannot fire somebody like that. 0.95

00:43:31.400 And he is not alone in this weird race essentialism that continues to permeate some factions of the left.

00:43:38.640 Most factions of the left, let's be honest.

00:43:40.340 They're not over it.

00:43:40.780 It's just a mantra.

00:43:41.920 It's a worthless mantra.

00:43:42.980 This, let me show you what happened on The View yesterday as Pam Greer, actress Pam Greer, who's also, what do we know her from?

00:43:55.060 This is before my time.

00:43:56.520 Foxy Brown.

00:43:58.280 She was Foxy Brown. 0.99

00:43:59.820 And she's done some other stuff too.

00:44:01.280 But she's on The View because she's an actress. 1.00

00:44:03.600 And this is how she described her childhood in Ohio.

00:44:09.820 Watch this.

00:44:11.020 You faced a lot of racism growing up in Columbus, Ohio.

00:44:15.280 How did that shape you?

00:44:18.260 Well, the military wouldn't allow black families to live on the base.

00:44:23.760 So you had to live in an apartment.

00:44:25.600 And you couldn't take a bus.

00:44:27.480 You couldn't afford a car.

00:44:28.480 You walked your dad's walk to the base.

00:44:31.300 And sometimes we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment.

00:44:38.020 My brother and I, my mom with bags.

00:44:40.780 And my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look.

00:44:43.100 And she'd pull us away.

00:44:44.460 Wow.

00:44:45.740 Because there was someone hanging from a tree.

00:44:50.060 And they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left.

00:44:56.600 And it triggers me today to see that a voice can be silenced. 0.98

00:45:07.000 And if a white family supported a black, they're going to get burned down or killed or lynched as well. 0.99

00:45:13.600 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:45:15.260 Okay.

00:45:15.660 So, James, she was born in 49.

00:45:18.660 And she wants us to believe as a young girl.

00:45:21.100 So what are we talking about?

00:45:21.960 Maybe 59.

00:45:23.020 Ten years later, 1960.

00:45:24.240 Well, first of all, let me just interrupt you.

00:45:26.780 Black people lynched in Ohio?

00:45:28.740 More importantly, I did a movie called Distance years and years and years ago.

00:45:32.740 We filmed it in Georgia, right outside of Hinesville.

00:45:40.400 And it was about integration in the Army.

00:45:44.920 And the Army was integrated in 1954.

00:45:48.140 You could, you know, it was, Eisenhower was responsible for making sure that the Army was completely integrated in 1954.

00:45:56.960 So I find it hard to believe, I don't know for a fact, but I find it hard to believe that there was segregated housing in the Army after 1954.

00:46:06.540 It was, I think, completely forbidden, but I may be wrong.

00:46:14.000 And, you know, and I don't think there were lynching people.

00:46:15.860 But how about the claim that she walked by and saw black bodies lynched on the trees in Columbus, Ohio, where there were approximately zero lynchings and only 11 in the entire state, with the last one being in 1911.

00:46:31.300 1911, this woman was born in 1949, but the whole, all the cast of The View, oh, it's horrible.

00:46:38.620 The audience, oh, that, like, as if she were born in, like, 1870, James.

00:46:46.160 That's, but that's so representative of the left.

00:46:48.100 Like, there's been no progress.

00:46:49.620 It's just, we're lynching people. 0.99

00:46:51.340 And today, to this day, the whites want to lynch the blacks. 0.98

00:46:54.340 That's how she landed it. 0.96

00:46:55.280 Now, it's the only, the only massive discrimination that I see in the world today is Christian churches being burned all over the world.

00:47:08.480 They're being burned at rates that are just astonishing.

00:47:10.900 Big cathedrals, I mean, all over the world.

00:47:14.040 Christian massacre in Africa going on in all these places. 1.00

00:47:18.000 And in the United States now, if there's this mantra that's been starting, oh, you know, white people are horrible, white supremacists, and white this and white that. 0.99

00:47:26.540 It's like, you know, when I grew up, you just lived your life. 0.98

00:47:32.420 It was, you know, Republicans get elected in the old days.

00:47:35.380 It's like, okay, we're here.

00:47:37.080 Democrats get elected.

00:47:38.360 Now, Republicans, when they get elected again, they got to clean up the mess.

00:47:42.400 The Democrats are never satisfied. 0.97

00:47:44.840 They are the party of misery. 0.95

00:47:47.760 If there is no real misery, they have to create misery.

00:47:51.300 Because if you have misery, you can do the grift, okay?

00:47:55.440 They've spent $24 billion.

00:47:59.120 It worked out to $170,000 per person after they took a census of homeless people in California, okay?

00:48:08.360 $170,000 per person.

00:48:10.120 That's what we have spent.

00:48:11.000 And the homelessness is there everywhere you look.

00:48:15.840 I mean, there's always some—

00:48:17.260 It's like you're trying to create more of it with that money.

00:48:19.740 I mean, we're driving down the street yesterday.

00:48:21.180 We're in beautiful Brentwood, and there's some guy pinching a loaf on the sidewalk.

00:48:24.540 I mean, it's just horrible.

00:48:26.340 It's horrifying.

00:48:27.340 It's horrifying how we live.

00:48:28.920 I'm afraid to ask what pinching a loaf means.

00:48:31.040 Use your imagination.

00:48:32.060 Is that some sort of defecation?

00:48:33.960 Is that what you're suggesting?

00:48:37.080 Is that what that is?

00:48:38.180 Yeah.

00:48:38.580 Or is it a sexual thing?

00:48:39.680 No, no.

00:48:40.060 Okay, okay.

00:48:40.580 So I got it.

00:48:41.940 Yeah. 0.60

00:48:42.420 That's so gross. 0.64

00:48:43.760 Yeah.

00:48:44.200 Where in Brentwood?

00:48:45.280 Look, I have to tell you, my beloved wife, Sarah, I love her so much.

00:48:49.140 You know, we're always going to work together.

00:48:50.780 We're like a little nation of two.

00:48:52.120 We're always hanging out.

00:48:52.800 We love each other.

00:48:53.380 We have a great time.

00:48:54.440 Everybody goes, oh, you guys.

00:48:56.260 We've been together 10 years.

00:48:57.520 We missed one night apart when I did a sleep study, and that was it.

00:49:01.060 Okay?

00:49:01.880 And so, you know, we had my, I had a Porsche.

00:49:04.240 I was driving around, you know, SUV, and she was with me.

00:49:07.740 But I had this little Mini Cooper.

00:49:09.600 And I said to Sarah, you know, why don't you just use the Mini Cooper when you're going

00:49:12.000 into Beverly Hills or something?

00:49:13.320 Because it's easy to park.

00:49:14.760 It has front-wheel drive, so when you're parking, you don't have to do three-point parking and

00:49:19.240 all that.

00:49:19.600 She's a great driver, but she did great. 0.59

00:49:22.200 Finally, she said, if I have to see one more naked man at eye level in Los Angeles, I'm

00:49:28.660 going to just, I'm going to just stay home.

00:49:30.700 I said, what, you guys think?

00:49:31.460 Come on.

00:49:32.020 They all, I'm like, I'm like at eye level.

00:49:34.400 It's like all the time.

00:49:35.520 I swear to God, she started taking pictures.

00:49:38.200 In the Mini Cooper.

00:49:38.520 In the Mini Cooper.

00:49:39.580 You're just, you know, it's like, oh, my God.

00:49:42.220 It never ends.

00:49:44.340 But I figured it out one day.

00:49:45.600 Everything that the Democrats do or allow to be done has a motive.

00:49:50.680 And the motive's always about one thing.

00:49:53.400 It's about power.

00:49:54.540 Because when you have power, you get elected, and the election is power.

00:49:58.420 And once you have the power when you're elected, then you can set up all the NGOs and all the 0.93

00:50:03.600 USAID and all the, you know, fire for the Palisades, you know, all this bullshit that they 0.97

00:50:10.200 do, and then pocket all the money yourself. 0.99

00:50:12.800 Give you a perfect example.

00:50:13.940 Yes.

00:50:14.280 Trained to know where.

00:50:15.120 You want to hear a statistic?

00:50:16.240 Here's a little mathematics for it.

00:50:17.420 I don't want to tell my thing.

00:50:17.960 Here's a little arithmetic.

00:50:18.660 There are 39 million Americans, Californian citizens.

00:50:24.460 If you were to take every citizen in California, and you were to send them to Tokyo, $1,200,

00:50:31.160 $200 to take the bullet train to Kyoto, and then stay in the Ritz-Carlton overnight, $700,

00:50:36.420 $700, total of $2,800, you would spend sending every Californian on a beautiful trip to Japan

00:50:42.900 on the bullet train and going to Kyoto, $109 billion.

00:50:47.480 And you would still have $19 billion left over for Gavin Newsom to grift for the train

00:50:53.360 to nowhere, which has never in all the years we've been funding it, ever laid one foot

00:50:58.960 of track.

00:51:00.640 That is so horrifying.

00:51:02.900 And something people are going to be hearing a lot more about as we approach 28.

00:51:07.300 Got to run, James.

00:51:08.180 Thanks so much.

00:51:08.920 James Woods, everybody.

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00:51:14.460 Lots of love.

00:51:15.180 We're back with Brit and Wit.

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00:52:28.880 She saved so much, she got her seat close enough to actually see and hear them.

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00:52:43.800 All right, we've got a lot to get to this hour.

00:52:51.820 Cultural news, including the latest in the Beckham family bombshell.

00:52:55.560 And it is now 1 p.m. in the east.

00:52:58.740 Do you know where your employees are?

00:53:00.900 Well, you better, because at 2 p.m., there's going to be some sort of a walkout by all weird leftists

00:53:06.840 in support of, I don't know, against ICE.

00:53:10.800 They're trying to make a point about ICE.

00:53:13.580 I'm going to play the soundbite, but first let me introduce my panel.

00:53:16.700 Britt Mayer's here.

00:53:17.500 She's founder of Rooted Wings and host of The Britt Mayer Show.

00:53:20.960 And Will Witt, who is author of Do Not Comply,

00:53:24.340 which is my own advice to my own employees if they're thinking about getting up and walking out of two.

00:53:29.760 Let me give you a heads up.

00:53:30.760 If you do it, don't bother coming back.

00:53:32.840 You're all fired.

00:53:33.800 But I don't employ crazy people, so I don't have to worry about this.

00:53:37.220 Yeah, so I don't think Britt and Witt are worried either.

00:53:40.140 I know your name is Will, but I just kind of like the Britt and Witt thing.

00:53:43.040 I don't think you guys are worried either about having people in your orbit walking out,

00:53:46.180 but let's just look at the people who are encouraging it, and we'll keep an open mind.

00:53:50.440 You know, like maybe they'll convince us.

00:53:52.740 Let's watch.

00:53:54.180 I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.

00:53:58.260 On January 20th, we are walking out to free America.

00:54:01.240 And walking in to remove the regime.

00:54:04.120 We're walking out of work.

00:54:05.420 Walking out of school.

00:54:06.580 We're walking out of anywhere and everywhere.

00:54:08.980 Because it's past time.

00:54:10.400 Anywhere?

00:54:10.660 And we stop cooperating with fascism.

00:54:13.560 Starting at 2 p.m. local time, we'll start a wave of walkouts across the nation.

00:54:18.120 Send a clear message that we demand freedom from this hostile and lawless takeover of our country.

00:54:23.040 Then we'll start walking in.

00:54:25.520 Congress has the power to remove a tyrant from office.

00:54:28.480 It's not an option.

00:54:29.660 It's their sworn duty.

00:54:30.840 So at 3 p.m.

00:54:32.080 We'll start walking in to local congressional offices to demand impeachment and removal.

00:54:37.800 Donald Trump has committed tyranny and obstruction of justice.

00:54:40.960 And turning ICE into a paramilitary force is an act of treason.

00:54:45.820 On January 20th, we are telling our congressional officials that it is their duty right now to impeach, convict, and remove.

00:54:52.420 Okay, I'm not sure, Will, whether they're going to get her done.

00:54:57.480 And I also have an issue with just saying 2 p.m. local.

00:55:00.400 Like, what does it mean exactly?

00:55:02.380 Because, you know, 2 p.m. here in the East is different than 2 p.m. in California, like where Britt is.

00:55:07.800 I think there's going to be chaos.

00:55:09.720 I'm not sure I like the planning or the faces of the movement.

00:55:12.960 But what do you make of it?

00:55:15.060 No, I made sure to go and get my latte before this, you know, just to make sure for the long lines that are going to be happening with all the baristas out of work after this. 0.79

00:55:23.200 Right, right.

00:55:23.980 Good point.

00:55:24.580 But they obviously don't have very much organization.

00:55:26.540 You know, this is some social media marketing campaign.

00:55:28.560 But all it really shows is how much of a religion all of this is to these people and how unserious they are.

00:55:34.800 You know, it's so easy to just go online and make some silly video about, oh, we're all going to walk out and we're so tough and we're so brave and we're really fighting against fascism.

00:55:43.380 When in reality, I mean, look at what they're doing.

00:55:45.680 They're on their phones with free speech talking about being able to be let out of their job to go and protest the president or ICE agents or whatever it is.

00:55:53.000 Like, you live the most comfortable, wonderful life throughout human history ever.

00:55:57.380 And you're sitting here complaining about this just solely to get virtue signaling points over other people.

00:56:02.640 It's not going to be successful.

00:56:03.980 It's very disorganized.

00:56:05.340 And I think a lot of people are probably going to lose their jobs if they're actually serious about leaving.

00:56:09.560 You know, Britt, we were talking to Adam Carolla earlier this week and he was saying all of these people are narcissists.

00:56:14.780 That's what we're seeing everywhere is just raging narcissism.

00:56:18.700 I'm going to show you one video.

00:56:21.440 I'm not sure if it's narcissism in this person's case.

00:56:24.120 It's kind of shocking if it is.

00:56:25.640 But she's kind of indicative of the vast majority of these women that we're seeing online, these little white, woke, liberal warriors out there and how they think and talk. 1.00

00:56:37.420 And look, here she is in SOT 36.

00:56:40.200 With the current state of the world and specifically the country.

00:56:45.240 Bob, huge glasses, nose ring.

00:56:48.200 Maybe being single and childless is actually my biggest asset. 0.99

00:57:05.800 I'm not trying to sound like, oh, wow, I'm going to save the day because fuck if I know I'm not, I'm just one person. 0.90

00:57:13.640 But all my friends who have children, they can't go to a protest and risk getting arrested or worse. 0.99

00:57:24.840 So I guess those of us who don't, like, let's fucking go. 0.51

00:57:34.120 I genuinely want to discuss this with you because the tell is right there, Britt. 0.91

00:57:39.480 You don't see a Britt Mayor out there at any of these protests because you're together.

00:57:45.680 You're beautiful.

00:57:46.540 You have a loving husband.

00:57:47.640 You have a happy home life.

00:57:48.920 You've got stuff going on professionally as well.

00:57:51.820 Things are good.

00:57:53.140 The girl, she gave it up at the top, right? 1.00

00:57:56.060 Like maybe being single and childless is an asset.

00:58:02.460 She's trying to talk herself into it.

00:58:04.200 Like my life choices that got me this terrible hair and this ugly nose ring and this hideous outfit were good.

00:58:10.960 I feel validated because I see all these other women who look like me doing what I'm doing. 1.00

00:58:16.840 And I found my army.

00:58:19.140 I finally belong.

00:58:21.000 There's definitely a big element of that in what we're seeing in Minneapolis.

00:58:25.100 Yeah, I think it goes into like the social contagion aspect where they all look the same. 0.94

00:58:31.380 No offense, but that's just from a very neutral perspective.

00:58:35.180 They all look the same.

00:58:36.420 They look weird.

00:58:37.760 They look out of place.

00:58:39.120 They look like the old theater kids from high school who never really figured out how to do adulthood.

00:58:46.720 And they're clinging on to the weird hair, the teddy bears, the oversized jewelry, the loud clap colors.

00:58:53.740 I think it's sad.

00:58:55.160 And I was actually watching last night.

00:58:57.120 There was some little video clip of it must have been like a parade of these people.

00:59:02.540 I don't even know where it was.

00:59:03.860 But it just occurred to me. 0.95

00:59:05.240 It is so sad that so many of these people just look mentally ill. 0.85

00:59:09.540 It's like there's become this pride in not fitting into society because you're so weird, because you don't have a marriage, because you don't have kids, because you don't fit in. 0.95

00:59:22.240 And so you've made that your flex.

00:59:24.340 And I think it's very sad. 1.00

00:59:25.700 It looks like a mental illness.

00:59:27.560 It doesn't look like anything I would be drawn to or most normal people, critical thinkers, independent thinkers would truly be drawn to. 0.95

00:59:34.920 It looks like it's a club for the misfits. 0.99

00:59:37.380 You know, the misfit toys movie, like my kids watch it during Christmas.

00:59:41.780 It's like that.

00:59:42.460 It's like Island of the Misfit Toys trying to be important and make that their flex.

00:59:48.380 But yeah, you're never going to see me.

00:59:49.380 Let me ask you a question about this gal. 1.00

00:59:50.780 Well, I think if we got this gal in our clutches, we could turn her life around in five days. 1.00

00:59:55.860 Oh, sure.

00:59:56.180 I really do.

00:59:56.780 I think we would make her over.

00:59:58.840 We'd give her a meaningful job. 0.55

01:00:00.700 We would talk to her about getting rid of the nose ring and those big blue nails. 1.00

01:00:04.700 We would give her like a cute little wardrobe that, you know, she looks petite, unlike most of her brethren who are out there. 1.00

01:00:11.220 And I like, I think that girl really just wants, I mean, I've said this about others in this protest.

01:00:15.760 They really just want a boyfriend or a girlfriend.

01:00:19.500 Like, you can tell these are sad saps out there, Will.

01:00:23.620 I don't, like, part of it is a commentary on America and young people today, their inability to connect, to, like, be happy, to find love.

01:00:34.800 They're just so miserable and they lean into unattractive, which never served anyone well in the history of the world.

01:00:43.280 Oh, I mean, why would you go and dress up like that if it wasn't for some sort of reason?

01:00:48.760 There has to be some sort of mental cognition behind that to be able to go and do something like that.

01:00:53.620 I find it very sad as well, but I honestly, I think I have to say I disagree with you with being able to change that person.

01:00:59.520 I think that there are some of these people who are out there who have made this such a deep-seated part of their personality, their morality, their reason for living,

01:01:07.780 that I think it would take longer than five days for most of these people.

01:01:11.180 Now, I think that if they had someone who truly loved them and a boyfriend or whatever, like you were saying before,

01:01:16.940 then you could assuage a lot of these different things that are going on inside these people's psyches.

01:01:21.440 But, I mean, when you get validation from every corner of America, I mean, you're talking about American society and our culture right now.

01:01:28.400 What is it?

01:01:28.940 I mean, it's disgusting. 0.55

01:01:30.840 It's horrible.

01:01:31.660 I mean, you have Megan Thee Stallion getting Artist of the Year, Fauci getting National Geographic made out of them,

01:01:37.700 and Black Lives Matter getting the Nobel Peace Prize or nominated for the Peace Prize. 0.99

01:01:40.920 Like, the culture is just daft and awful. 0.97

01:01:44.000 And so these people doing these weird things and being these kind of people are getting that validation from everywhere. 0.98

01:01:49.320 And so if they continue to get that validation and that sense of meaning from this nonsense,

01:01:53.820 then it's going to be very hard to change these people.

01:01:55.980 And I don't really see a world where any of us three could come together with these people and have a unified America, which might be a good thing.

01:02:02.960 I do think if they would be less homely, they would be happier.

01:02:08.160 Yes, that is true.

01:02:09.040 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:02:10.140 I genuinely believe it.

01:02:11.720 I think it could start with some Mozempic and some Accutane in 90% of the cases that we are seeing out there.

01:02:17.740 And they'd be on their way to happiness.

01:02:20.460 They don't have to terrorize ICE.

01:02:22.220 I'm just being honest.

01:02:23.260 Some raw milk for sure.

01:02:23.980 I think these things could help.

01:02:24.720 Raw milk.

01:02:25.760 And maybe some Invisalign.

01:02:28.200 That could also be very helpful.

01:02:31.800 There's, on the narcissism front, this woman, she tracks. 0.99

01:02:36.500 She was on my Twitter feed this morning.

01:02:39.420 And I think, like, the self-aggrandizement is representative of what we're seeing from a lot of these little weekend warriors out there. 1.00

01:02:47.200 Like, if ICE crosses my path, I'm going to fucking kill them. 1.00

01:02:51.180 You're not. 1.00

01:02:51.920 Like, okay, you know, you've been saying that.

01:02:54.100 I'm not trying to encourage it.

01:02:55.080 Trust me.

01:02:55.440 But I'm just saying, like, they're super tough, like, looking into their iPhone.

01:03:00.340 Here's this woman who went a different way. 1.00

01:03:02.500 She went the martyr route.

01:03:04.100 All I know her as is liberal white woman, according to the internet, who's got very bleached hair and a Minnesota sweatshirt on for the listening audience. 1.00

01:03:13.340 She looks probably 40 to me. 1.00

01:03:15.440 Here, watch.

01:03:15.860 This is a message from my mom.

01:03:20.280 If I am executed by ICE officers today, it will not be because of anything that I did.

01:03:27.620 I want you to know a couple things.

01:03:29.980 First, I don't carry weapons on me.

01:03:33.600 Second, I won't be holding any signs.

01:03:36.440 There will be no indication from me that I'm a violent person or a threat to anyone.

01:03:44.180 I do not plan on following anyone.

01:03:46.980 I do not plan on screaming or shouting or even speaking to anyone.

01:03:51.300 I am there to observe and document.

01:03:57.680 Okay.

01:03:58.280 This is a historical moment for me in my lifetime, for the state of Minnesota.

01:04:03.180 And no matter what the outcome is, I believe it deserves to be documented.

01:04:08.680 If I am executed today by ICE officers, it will not be because of anything that I did.

01:04:15.580 And I'm saying this because I need you to understand what you're supporting and what you're fighting against and possibly reconsider.

01:04:28.140 Megan, what is it called when you set up in legal terms, like when you set up a defense ahead of time?

01:04:35.280 Not a defense at all.

01:04:37.960 Because that's what it is.

01:04:40.300 Yeah.

01:04:41.040 Oh, and of course, it's all about her.

01:04:42.660 Like, this is a big day for me.

01:04:45.500 I'm part of history. 0.99

01:04:47.240 I'm going to get executed. 0.69

01:04:48.740 We're all Renee Good, who was unfairly executed by a terrible ICE agent. 0.96

01:04:53.360 And I'm basically her.

01:04:54.520 This woman needs it. 0.99

01:04:55.760 She needs it, you guys.

01:04:57.300 Like, it's doing something inside of her that, like, is bringing her alive for the first time.

01:05:03.820 She feels needed and relevant.

01:05:05.880 And, like, she's actually convinced herself that she's going to be a martyr,

01:05:10.260 that ICE is just executing, like, heavyset, blonde 40-year-olds in the street because they're doing that for the fun of it. 1.00

01:05:17.460 I think it's Marxism.

01:05:18.720 It's this whole, the wave of Marxism that's been pushed on, you know, the youth and even that age, whatever age that is,

01:05:25.520 is the oppressor-oppressed narrative.

01:05:27.680 And so she has embraced that she is a part of the oppressed and she's out to get the oppressor.

01:05:32.600 And so if anything happens because she is a part of this minority-oppressed community,

01:05:37.280 then it's the oppressor because it's nothing she did.

01:05:39.920 It's the whole Marxism narrative recycled, repackaged for 2026.

01:05:44.780 It's boring and usual.

01:05:46.240 Don't you think if she, like, even if she had a job, Will, and I'm really genuinely trying to solve their problems,

01:05:51.680 what if we got her a job in, like, data processing or something, like, the small wins are good enough.

01:05:58.540 You know, you just have little wins in your day where, like, you completed a task and you maybe had a boss who said,

01:06:04.160 good job, April.

01:06:07.320 I'm just taking a shot.

01:06:08.720 And, like, these little moments of victory could maybe make a whole person who doesn't feel like she's got to go out there

01:06:18.340 and talk about how she's definitely dying, but she's part of history.

01:06:23.080 Meanwhile, no one's going to lay a finger on April.

01:06:25.520 No, of course.

01:06:26.260 But to be honest, this might make me sound a little Gen Z millennial with saying this,

01:06:30.080 but in terms of the current American job, HR, bureaucratic, corporate world,

01:06:36.120 I think there are a lot of issues with it.

01:06:37.720 And I think that it kind of kills a lot of people inside when they see the processes at their work

01:06:42.700 and the processions and HR world and all that kind of stuff.

01:06:46.600 It makes people really down about having to work in America today.

01:06:50.060 There's not a lot of meaning.

01:06:51.000 You live the life exactly as everyone else, answering emails all day, staring at a screen.

01:06:55.480 You go back home and watch Netflix and your life is, I don't want to say basically worthless,

01:06:59.340 but you basically view your life as worthless because that's all you are.

01:07:02.560 If you died, your company would replace you the next day.

01:07:05.020 So I don't know if necessarily getting a job for like a data analyst for this woman would be 0.60

01:07:09.900 the end all be all of changing her life.

01:07:12.640 It would be a small win.

01:07:13.600 But what I really think is that these people need more.

01:07:16.840 They need some sort of purpose.

01:07:18.280 They need something that is going to give them the drive when they wake up every day and say,

01:07:22.440 man, life is great.

01:07:23.680 I love my life.

01:07:24.600 It's a miracle that I am here.

01:07:26.500 A complete blessing that I get to live in America and be this person.

01:07:30.600 But unfortunately, I think for a lot of people, especially I think for the younger generation,

01:07:35.480 they don't have that.

01:07:36.420 And I think the atomization of people in this country is just going to get worse and worse

01:07:40.300 off of that.

01:07:40.940 And you're going to find more people to radicalize by these things.

01:07:44.240 I want to follow up with you, Will, on this because I know you're big on the raw milk.

01:07:47.820 You're into Maha.

01:07:49.080 You are too, Britt.

01:07:49.680 But we're all taking steps to improve the quality of the food that we put in our bodies

01:07:56.180 and how we take care of ourselves and hopefully extend our longevity and our wellness while

01:08:00.440 we're here.

01:08:01.700 And I actually think that this is all part of it.

01:08:05.000 I think that, look, it's no accident that virtually all these women are very heavy. 0.97

01:08:10.820 And I do believe that you sit there, whether you're male or female, and you stare at your

01:08:15.760 phone all day and you shove in potato chips mindlessly, you never work out, you never

01:08:21.900 go for a walk, you don't have a rich social circle of people who you love or who love you.

01:08:27.740 I've said it before.

01:08:28.720 I'm going to say it again.

01:08:29.820 You're not getting action, whether it's from a spouse, a boyfriend or girlfriend, but there's

01:08:35.320 no one touching you in a way that makes you feel loved or adored or hot.

01:08:40.840 You're certainly not having any euphoria that comes from an active, healthy sex life.

01:08:44.500 All of this, I think these are building like these weird little empty shells of people

01:08:48.820 who can be powder kegs or they can just be sad little, you know, like April, just like

01:08:54.600 sad, you know, I, what do I, I need something to make me feel special.

01:08:58.140 And I, I actually do kind of think we need to like backward quite a ways to try to get

01:09:03.820 rid of this problem.

01:09:04.820 And it starts with like, how do we start filling people up?

01:09:09.200 I mean, the real answer, Britt, is it's your mom and dad.

01:09:12.040 They have first responsibilities in this department, but like the iPhone dependence is bad.

01:09:16.580 The ubiquitous streaming options, you can, you never have to leave your TV if you don't

01:09:20.480 want to.

01:09:20.880 That's bad.

01:09:21.940 Will's point about what corporate America looks like right now is bad.

01:09:25.560 The absence of real human to human contact and ways of meeting people is bad.

01:09:29.940 The increase, I would argue in like ubiquitous gummies and cannabis is not great.

01:09:35.700 Even though alcohol use is going down, that stuff's going up.

01:09:38.080 So all these seems like, seem like recipes in a toxic stew that's creating those people

01:09:42.020 we're looking at.

01:09:43.300 I think a big part of it, Megan is, and you know, I, like we share the same faith and I

01:09:48.500 think a huge part of it is that we have seen this trend toward nihilism in this country where

01:09:54.340 it's God is dead.

01:09:55.800 You are the God of your own life.

01:09:57.820 We're just these little machines that have, there's really no purpose because there's nothing

01:10:02.520 ever after.

01:10:03.260 And so that sense of nihilism that's really infected us in America in 2026, I think is

01:10:09.680 a huge culprit in why we're seeing people who lack purpose, who go home and they do, they

01:10:16.180 get on their screens endlessly because they have no purpose beyond the moment.

01:10:21.500 And I think that to the antidote to that is to infuse, re-infuse purpose and meaning, not

01:10:28.080 just in the ever after in our faith, but also in things like patriotism, having love for

01:10:34.440 country and hoping that this country withstands the next 250 years, having purpose for the

01:10:40.340 next generation that our children will grow up with the freedoms and liberty that we enjoy.

01:10:46.060 Even the purpose of defending against radicalism that can create a new future with AI, you know,

01:10:53.040 spiraling out of control.

01:10:54.220 But I think when you have a lot of people who have been given no sense of identity and

01:11:00.080 purpose beyond the moment, you end up with what we're seeing right now.

01:11:04.920 Let me show you something on this.

01:11:06.460 Well, we've kind of been following, we haven't been able to get these soundbites on all week,

01:11:10.460 but we on the show have been following the plight of this person, Lizzie.

01:11:16.860 Sister needs a date. 1.00

01:11:18.600 Here's Lizzie. 1.00

01:11:19.420 Here's the first video that we were going to play when we first got introduced to this

01:11:22.880 gal and her pitch. 1.00

01:11:24.780 Take a listen to Top 50.

01:11:27.160 Here we are at my official dating profile request.

01:11:30.400 I am 42.

01:11:32.400 Actually, I'm almost 42.

01:11:34.120 I am a relationship anarchist.

01:11:36.220 I am on the lookout for somebody who right now, I'd be able to call and say, hey, get in the 1.00

01:11:42.640 passenger seat and let's go fuck some shit up. 1.00

01:11:45.620 If you're interested in fucking some shit up, if you're not afraid of a woman who can speak her 1.00

01:11:49.780 mind, if you're interested in sitting in a side seat, message me. 1.00

01:11:56.120 We got shit to do. 0.99

01:11:58.140 Okay, she blew a kiss into the camera. 1.00

01:12:00.500 Is that real?

01:12:01.300 She's 42.

01:12:01.700 I caught it.

01:12:02.160 I caught the kiss.

01:12:02.700 That's real.

01:12:03.300 Oh.

01:12:05.980 She should do so, Liz, to wind up with you, Will.

01:12:09.060 We did actually play that soundbite, but there's an update in her case.

01:12:12.120 Okay, so she, well, I'll just play it.

01:12:15.160 Here's Sot 2, 52, 51, 51.

01:12:18.280 Curing borders.

01:12:19.160 Buck ice, we ain't gonna play nice.

01:12:21.900 Oh, you wanna fight?

01:12:22.920 Putting on a gas mask.

01:12:25.480 Oh.

01:12:26.400 Buck ice, we ain't gonna play nice.

01:12:29.300 Oh, you wanna fight?

01:12:29.980 She's not kidding around.

01:12:30.800 She's putting on the protective safety goggles.

01:12:32.820 I mean, come on.

01:12:36.460 And the cafea.

01:12:40.700 The cafea over the gas mask.

01:12:43.220 Ice, ice, ice, ice.

01:12:45.160 Buck ice, we ain't gonna play nice.

01:12:48.040 Get the gear.

01:12:50.700 And get outside.

01:12:53.820 If you can, of course.

01:12:56.600 Those are swim goggles.

01:12:57.920 Okay.

01:12:58.220 I don't believe this is real.

01:12:59.800 There's no way this is real.

01:13:01.380 It's real.

01:13:01.800 No.

01:13:01.860 It's the huge protective safety goggles we all got in shop.

01:13:07.240 And, you know, if you didn't wear them, somebody could lose an eye and then they were mandatory.

01:13:11.100 Um, here's the epilogue where she checked back in and let us know a little bit on how she got this way. 1.00

01:13:20.360 Sot 53. 0.98

01:13:20.940 You know, one thing that hating men has trained me for is literally trained me for chasing fucking ice cars off of my street. 0.99

01:13:28.960 Five of them right now. 0.99

01:13:30.600 Following down the neighborhood.

01:13:32.160 Honking.

01:13:32.920 Blowing whistles. 1.00

01:13:33.900 Telling them to fuck off. 1.00

01:13:34.900 All that rage that I have felt towards men is coming out. 1.00

01:13:42.420 I have been trained for this moment. 1.00

01:13:44.400 Bitch. 1.00

01:13:44.840 I will follow you everywhere. 1.00

01:13:46.500 Okay, so, well, we went from trying to find a passenger princess who wants to date and fuck some shit up to dancing in our ice goggles. 0.99

01:13:56.020 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:56.340 Okay.

01:13:57.100 To the rage I have against men is coming.

01:13:59.760 So it doesn't seem like she got a lover out of her tactics.

01:14:04.400 I don't know whether, um, this whole thing is a massive dating scheme for some of these women, but Lizzie, she's, she's a live one. 1.00

01:14:11.460 Yeah.

01:14:11.900 I hope that she's still single. 0.83

01:14:13.100 I'd love to message her.

01:14:13.980 But, you know, I don't think I'd ever be bored in a relationship like that, you know, if you love a good debate.

01:14:19.120 But obviously these people, again, I mean, it really goes back to this whole thing.

01:14:23.500 How can you do these things if you had anything of any sort of interest going on in your life that brings you joy?

01:14:30.300 Obviously there is nothing that is bringing this person joy because you would not act like that.

01:14:34.400 I mean, even if you had like a good book to read or something like that, your life would be completely turned around in a day. 0.99

01:14:39.760 But these people harp on these things and they get so invested in it and they want to say they hate men and come at me, bitch. 1.00

01:14:46.280 Oh my goodness. 0.99

01:14:47.280 I mean, it's like, it's laughable, obviously.

01:14:49.540 Can you imagine approaching this woman in a bar, not knowing that this was like a tycoon Lizzie, typhoid Lizzie? 0.97

01:14:57.820 Like, I was like, I hate men. 0.95

01:14:59.640 I'll get my poison over everyone. 0.97

01:15:01.860 Yeah, it's not great.

01:15:02.800 So the problem becomes self-fulfilling, right?

01:15:04.980 It's like one thing leads to another, leads back to the same thing and so on.

01:15:07.840 And then next thing you know, they're out there harassing an ICE officer.

01:15:10.540 Okay, I want to keep going because it's not just people like Lizzie or the weird pink haired, blue nailed gals who are struggling. 1.00

01:15:19.880 April, right?

01:15:20.500 There's not just the Aprils of the world who are struggling in their family relationships. 0.63

01:15:23.280 That's my presumption.

01:15:24.560 It's also people at the upper echelon of society when it comes to money, fame, privilege, access, you name it.

01:15:32.240 And that brings me to David Beckham, Victoria Beckham, and their son, Brooklyn Beckham, and his wife, Nicola.

01:15:41.240 And the wife is an heiress herself.

01:15:44.920 She comes from a very wealthy family.

01:15:46.840 So I don't think she cares about her husband's money or her parents, her in-law's fame.

01:15:54.200 And this may be part of the problem because Brooklyn Beckham just went jihad on his mom and dad, David Beckham and Victoria.

01:16:04.320 And forgive me because he posted it in a written post, so I have to read it.

01:16:09.720 He says he had no, this is page six reporting, he had no choice but to break his silence on his longstanding family feud.

01:16:15.400 The mother and the wife do not get along, but it's beyond that now we learn.

01:16:19.000 In a lengthy Instagram story statement, he said his parents had been controlling narratives in the press about his family and tried to ruin his relationship with his wife, Nicola Peltz Beckham.

01:16:29.080 Okay, here is what he wrote.

01:16:32.960 I've been silent for years and made every effort to keep these matters private.

01:16:36.780 Unfortunately, my parents and their team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only some of the lies that have been printed.

01:16:45.760 I do not want to reconcile with my family.

01:16:47.560 I'm not being controlled.

01:16:48.720 I'm standing up for myself for the first time in my life.

01:16:51.260 For my entire life, my parents have controlled narratives in the press about our family.

01:16:55.340 The performative social media posts, family events, and inauthentic relationships have been a fixture of the life I was born into.

01:17:03.080 My parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped.

01:17:09.180 My mom canceled making Nicola's dress in the 11th hour, Victoria Beckham is a designer now, of course,

01:17:14.480 despite how excited she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently find a new dress.

01:17:19.640 Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe me into signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected me, my wife, and our future children.

01:17:28.300 No idea what that means.

01:17:29.160 They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date because the terms of the deal then would be initiated.

01:17:37.080 My holdout affected the payday, and they have never treated me the same since.

01:17:42.240 During the wedding planning, my mom went so far as to call me evil because Nicola and I chose to include my nanny Sandra and Nicola's nonny at our table, presumably at the wedding,

01:17:53.240 because they both didn't have their husbands. 0.99

01:17:55.780 Both of our parents had their own tables equally adjacent to ours.

01:17:58.860 Sounds like Victoria was not happy.

01:18:01.400 She called him evil for that.

01:18:03.120 Since the moment I started standing up for myself with my family, I've received endless attacks from my parents, both privately and publicly, that were sent to the press on their orders.

01:18:10.640 Even my brothers were sent to attack me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of nowhere this last summer.

01:18:15.640 My mom hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in advance, to a romantic love song in front of our 500 wedding guests. 0.86

01:18:24.780 Mark Anthony called me to the stage where in the schedule was planned to be my romantic dance with my wife, but instead my mom was waiting to dance with me. 0.90

01:18:33.180 Instead, she danced very inappropriately on me in front of everyone. 1.00

01:18:38.660 I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in my entire life.

01:18:42.240 I know it's bad.

01:18:42.880 It's bad.

01:18:43.520 We wanted to renew our vows so we could create new memories of our wedding day that bring us joy and happiness and not anxiety and embarrassment.

01:18:51.760 Almost done.

01:18:52.260 My wife has been consistently disrespected by my family, no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one. 0.99

01:18:57.720 My mom has repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives in ways that were clearly intended to make us both uncomfortable. 1.00

01:19:04.560 The narrative that my wife controls me is completely backward.

01:19:07.620 I have been controlled by my parents for most of my life.

01:19:10.680 I grew up with overwhelming anxiety, and for the first time in my life since stepping away from my family, that anxiety has disappeared.

01:19:19.340 Whoa, whoa.

01:19:20.920 Whoa, dirty laundry out on the clothespins on the line. 0.99

01:19:25.540 Yeah.

01:19:25.840 I'm literally crying right now.

01:19:27.000 What is, what's happening here?

01:19:29.660 I confess I haven't been totally paying attention to this other than I knew Victoria and the new wife of her son do not get along.

01:19:37.880 So get us up to speed.

01:19:39.120 What are your thoughts on it?

01:19:39.960 I don't know.

01:19:40.440 I was hoping you were going to pitch it to Will.

01:19:42.700 Do you want Will to go first?

01:19:43.540 No, no.

01:19:43.920 Will's got thoughts.

01:19:44.900 Here is my thought on it.

01:19:46.500 My thought on it is this is why my husband hates social media because he's like, social media has ruined culture.

01:19:52.940 And while I agree that there are moments like this where you see it, there is also good with social media.

01:19:59.180 So that being a caveat, I think that we've reached this weird era where it's like we, instead of handling things privately, and I get that they're celebrities, so things are a little different.

01:20:10.400 It's like royalty, but I've gone through stuff with family that was never made public, that was kept private, and we handled it, and relationships were broken, and a couple were restored.

01:20:21.140 But we didn't air public, our public underwear, you know, is what this feels like.

01:20:26.740 I don't know where to stand on it, and I think it makes the public uncomfortable because now the onus is on us to take a side, and we don't even know what's going on.

01:20:34.600 So I think that this is where airing public dirty laundry like this just feels uncomfortable and wrong, and we just want it to kind of be private.

01:20:44.500 And I know that celebrities are from a different world, but I don't know.

01:20:47.680 It makes me feel like I'm supposed to take a side, and I don't even know what's going on.

01:20:51.180 I mean, it's one of the reasons why, you know, when I started to become more public, and then we had kids, it was very clear to both Doug and to me we would not be putting them out there at all for consumption.

01:21:02.540 We don't post their pictures.

01:21:04.800 You know, to this day, it's very hard to find a picture of my kids on the internet.

01:21:07.560 Like, only one publication did it a long time ago when they were little, and that's by design because we're religious about it.

01:21:13.300 We don't think just because we've chosen to be in the public eye they should have to do it.

01:21:16.820 Now, the Beckhams went a different way, but I will also say in their defense, they're the Beckhams.

01:21:22.600 I mean, it would have been really hard, you know, and I think the same about Tom Brady and Giselle.

01:21:27.480 Like, they're not going to have their kids show up at the Super Bowl and watch Tom Brady, you know, like, not going to have their kids show up at the World Cup and watch David Beckham.

01:21:35.520 So it's like, it is hard to maintain the privacy when you're a megastar like those guys are.

01:21:40.120 I agree to an extent.

01:21:41.280 I also think that one of the things that he said in that post that I read yesterday was about the branding, making your family a brand.

01:21:49.580 And I've even seen small little social media accounts like cute homeschool moms do that where, like, I don't know if you fully understand that you're creating a brand versus a family and you're having your kid play a part and fit them into this picture.

01:22:04.200 And I think that's the lesson in all of this, even for, you know, us normal little moms, is just to be careful about how we represent our families and our kids.

01:22:14.560 And we also think ahead about, you know, our kids will live the Internet's forever.

01:22:18.200 So they live with the images that we push out.

01:22:20.700 And I think it is a caution to not make your child your brand.

01:22:25.340 Yes, I never felt it was important enough to have strangers tell me how cute my kids were to sacrifice their privacy, their anonymity, and their right to grow up without the public lens on them all the time.

01:22:41.360 Obviously, things were different in the Beckham family, and you can feel this kid's resentment well.

01:22:46.280 Yeah, I can sympathize with everything you guys are saying, but I also kind of look at it and I'm like, is this kid going to return all the money from his family?

01:22:53.900 Is he going to give up everything that they've given him and all that?

01:22:56.540 Or is he just going to come on social media and start crying about it? 0.71

01:22:59.620 You know, it feels kind of like a loser mentality.

01:23:02.020 Now he can, because he married an heiress.

01:23:03.760 Exactly. It's like loser mentality, in my opinion, where he's coming out and now saying this after all these years and putting this out there when he feels safe and confident enough.

01:23:12.460 And, you know, everyone, anxiety and stress and all that, that's all the rage now.

01:23:16.620 You know, everyone wants to hear about how stressed you are because of all these things.

01:23:19.980 And it's just like you look back in history and think about like actual monarchs and empires and family drama within them.

01:23:28.080 And I can't imagine these people were going to the common folk and saying, look at all how stressed my dad made me about these things.

01:23:34.820 You know, and maybe that's a weird example.

01:23:36.880 But honestly, like it just feels so fake and nonsensical, like talking about choosing a side. 0.94

01:23:41.580 I have no side because I think they're both just ridiculous people that we shouldn't worry about whatsoever.

01:23:46.320 I kind of have a side because I mean, I'm biased, obviously, because I have three kids. 0.95

01:23:51.980 But I think you should respect your mother and father.

01:23:54.820 I mean, even if they're imperfect, even if they're doing things that bother you, I think you should respect your mother and father, especially when they're public figures.

01:24:04.520 That stuff he wrote about Victoria Beckham at the wedding was meant to humiliate her.

01:24:08.960 And I'm sure it did.

01:24:10.860 I'm sure she was mortified.

01:24:12.420 And I think whatever she's doing, I trust whatever she's doing, she's doing it out of like a deep, profound love for her son.

01:24:19.660 Like she's maybe not behaving well.

01:24:22.180 I can't totally take him at face value.

01:24:24.760 But she seems desperate to have her son in her life, Britt.

01:24:28.980 And maybe she's not handling it perfectly.

01:24:30.700 I would hope a child would remember that.

01:24:32.800 And even though he's madly in love with the new wife, and maybe there's some friction there, like to keep some grace there for the mother and father who raised him and obviously adore him.

01:24:42.160 Yeah.

01:24:42.340 And I mean, if you're the mother-in-law, note to self, like you probably don't want to jump in on the first dance.

01:24:47.800 I mean, I'm just going to throw that out there.

01:24:49.180 If that actually happened, probably not a good call.

01:24:53.260 Not good.

01:24:54.140 But, you know, we were talking about this before we went on the air.

01:24:55.900 But the one thing that I know, I know this.

01:24:58.580 Now, I accept the royal family out of this because they're royals.

01:25:02.320 Like everybody comes to them.

01:25:03.960 Everyone's subservient to them.

01:25:05.220 So this is not about Meghan Markle, who behaved very badly, as we all know.

01:25:09.560 But in general, you as the mother in particular have to make it your job that your son's wife likes you.

01:25:19.720 Yep.

01:25:19.860 But you've got to treat that like a J-O-B because he is going to prioritize her over you. 1.00

01:25:26.860 And if you make it a contest between the two of you, you'll lose.

01:25:31.240 I'm sorry to say it, but I know it's true.

01:25:34.700 Mine are still young enough that they don't, you know, that's a ways off.

01:25:37.140 But that's human nature.

01:25:39.460 That's the way we continue the human race.

01:25:41.460 Of course, he's going to prioritize his wife over his mom and the moms of the world.

01:25:47.460 We just have to bite our lips and suck it up and pretend, if we must, that we love this girl in order to keep our son in our lives.

01:25:56.100 Am I wrong?

01:25:56.640 No, you're so right.

01:25:57.680 And I'm so I shout out to my mother-in-law, who I know is listening to this, who has done the most incredible job of being the most loving mother-in-law and never, never causing any issues in our marriage.

01:26:10.160 And she knows her boundary lines.

01:26:11.520 She loves my husband as her son, and she loves me as a daughter and has always encouraged and strengthened, you know, our marriage, but has never interfered or meddled to make it where he has to pick one side or another.

01:26:22.780 So many lessons in this topic.

01:26:24.940 That's so good.

01:26:26.020 And I think part of the—my mother-in-law always used to say, you know, the rule about, like, no more than a three-day visit, like, fish and visitors go bad after three days.

01:26:36.800 But she—but the one thing she—we lost her last April, but the one thing she always said was that—she was wonderful.

01:26:44.880 She never gave advice unless you asked it.

01:26:47.940 Like, she would never just, like, weigh in on something she saw you doing with the kids or she saw Doug and I discussing or debating or even, like, big career moments that she was living through with me, tumultuous stuff.

01:27:01.540 If I asked her, she would give me her opinion, but she never offered it gratuitously, which I do think helped avoid resentments between us.

01:27:10.620 So good.

01:27:10.820 Just given the nature of the role, right?

01:27:12.400 Right, the roles we don't.

01:27:13.160 What do you think, Will, is the man on this panel?

01:27:15.460 Yeah, I mean, I'm not married, so I don't have, you know, mothers-in-laws and these kind of things.

01:27:19.280 But I think what you guys are saying is spot on.

01:27:21.060 I think that right now in America, there is a problem with young men actually being too attached to their moms and not actually kind of leaving the coop and going out and doing things on their own and being too dependent on that feminine energy from their mother.

01:27:34.460 Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung both talk about this quite extensively about staying with your mother for too long.

01:27:39.400 So I think you do have to be willing to do that.

01:27:41.460 And I think that if a mom can't handle that, that that's what you're going to do, then there's probably some validation needs that she has on her part that she needs to address herself.

01:27:48.520 Oh, I'm definitely going to make sure my children do not read Freud or Jung.

01:27:54.720 Get back into the basement.

01:27:56.160 That is much better, yes.

01:27:57.500 Don't read that.

01:27:58.960 Okay, stand by.

01:28:00.240 We're going to take a break, and then we're going to come back with Britt and Whit.

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01:30:46.820 Back with me now, Brit and Witt.

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01:30:51.040 Okay, guys, so I mentioned Megan Markle as an exception to the rule that the mother of the groom has to bow down in a way to the woman who's being added to the family.

01:31:01.320 Of course, Prince Harry's mother passed, but his stepmother is the Queen of England, and so she bows to no one.

01:31:08.500 So, in any event, the dynamics are different.

01:31:10.580 But Megan Markle is in the news today, and there is an interesting headline.

01:31:14.780 The headline is, sadly, with love, Megan, her Netflix series on how to be a mini Martha Stewart will not be coming back for a third season.

01:31:26.660 And, of course, the dirty little secret with all of this is there actually was no second season either.

01:31:35.720 There was only the first season, which as soon as it wrapped and hit air, they had her announce, oh, I'm getting a second season, which were just additional episodes she had already taped.

01:31:48.180 Oh, no.

01:31:48.420 There was no renewal.

01:31:50.540 She just made it look like the first one was a success, so they gave her a second.

01:31:54.700 Wrong.

01:31:55.500 She had bought, they had bought like a 20-episode run or whatever it was.

01:31:58.880 Maybe it's a 10-episode run.

01:32:00.160 I didn't actually wind up watching anything more than that first season, which Maureen and I parodied in one of my favorite things we've ever done on our channel.

01:32:06.700 And now they say, because things are ranked so poorly, her show first debuted in March of 2025.

01:32:16.440 It ranked 383rd on the Netflix list with 5.3 million global views in the first half of 2025.

01:32:25.260 But when season two debuted last August, it didn't even make the list of the streamers' top 10 that week and kind of just crapped out.

01:32:35.920 So no season three for With Love, Megan.

01:32:39.740 Instead, she's going to be focused on building her lifestyle brand as ever.

01:32:45.820 So are we officially over, Megan Markle?

01:32:48.700 I feel like this might be the nail in the coffin.

01:32:52.120 Is it?

01:32:52.600 What do you think, Will?

01:32:53.180 I didn't know there was ever an era where we did care about Megan Markle, but I suppose this is a surprise to me.

01:32:59.940 But I think that's probably right.

01:33:01.360 I mean, I think it's honestly with a lot of these things going on in movies, art, TV, things like that,

01:33:07.100 I do think there's actually a shift happening in that where people don't want this kind of, how would you say, fakeness that's in all of these things now.

01:33:15.520 I mean, a lot of it, you know, I think there's a big turnaround.

01:33:17.480 I think people are starting to realize that this leftism and wokeness and fakeness that we've put into our art and culture right now has not been successful.

01:33:25.620 And I think there's going to be a big renaissance of people who are getting into these fields right now who are going to start making things in a much more better and diverse, in the way that I mean actual good diversity, type of way, versus what we've been seeing for the last 10 years.

01:33:40.520 And I think Megan Markle was just a fossil of that era of these types of people who we see right through as nonsense.

01:33:47.620 That's a very interesting take on her, Brett.

01:33:50.920 It's basically her inauthenticity is what doomed her, as opposed to her narcissism, her disrespect, her neediness, like that, just to boil it down to her inauthenticity. 1.00

01:34:01.520 Yeah, I was actually in the UK just a couple months ago.

01:34:05.040 My producer and I went over there, and we had an opportunity to just kind of on the ground, not about Megan Markle.

01:34:10.960 That's not why we were there, but in casual conversations.

01:34:13.880 I don't know.

01:34:14.240 No, no.

01:34:15.140 But, yeah, that was my write-off.

01:34:16.600 You know, we were going over to talk about Megan Markle.

01:34:18.340 No, we had opportunities with the cabbies who are from South London, and they're just real boisterous, and they like to talk.

01:34:24.740 And so I frequently, I asked about Trump.

01:34:27.780 I asked about America.

01:34:28.900 It's funny their thoughts on the American Revolution.

01:34:30.640 We can talk about that some other time.

01:34:32.100 But one of the topics I kept bringing up was, Megan Markle, what do you guys think about her, you know?

01:34:37.280 And across the board, so negative.

01:34:40.320 And it wasn't because she's not authentic.

01:34:42.020 They don't like her because of her disrespect, and that was something that they kept qualifying, was she's just very disrespectful. 0.99

01:34:48.940 She came in and disrupted. 0.89

01:34:50.660 She was entitled. 1.00

01:34:52.000 She was arrogant, narcissist. 0.97

01:34:53.700 Those were the things I heard in the cabbie accent that I love out there on the ground in London and in the UK. 0.98

01:35:00.200 Over here, I think, is different.

01:35:02.420 I think over here, it's what Will just said, is that Americans are really starting to turn toward, we want authentic.

01:35:08.880 We don't want things that feel manufactured and forced.

01:35:12.080 And Megan exemplifies that.

01:35:14.120 She feels forced.

01:35:15.660 She doesn't feel relatable.

01:35:17.620 She feels like she wants to be the Sussex or whatever it is she says.

01:35:21.840 But she doesn't feel like someone I want to hang with.

01:35:24.360 But she was Sussex now.

01:35:25.620 She's Sussex now. 0.69

01:35:26.420 And you have to, you know, you have to call her that.

01:35:28.520 It doesn't feel like someone you want to hang with.

01:35:30.280 So I think in America, it's that we don't feel like she's raw. 0.78

01:35:33.740 But in the UK, they don't like her because she's disrespectful and she's arrogant. 1.00

01:35:37.740 So it's interesting that she's lost both sides of the pond on this.

01:35:42.820 You don't think it's authentic to when you walk into a house that she's visiting and she's the only one in there other than like the maid for them to have to call out the Duchess of Sussex.

01:35:53.780 She's not even the one arriving.

01:35:55.120 She's in the house.

01:35:56.120 Wait, did they do that?

01:35:56.320 You're walking in.

01:35:58.000 And there's great.

01:35:58.760 Remember when I came to visit you and you had the maid yell out?

01:36:01.100 Yes.

01:36:01.320 The former Miss California.

01:36:04.300 That's how it works over here.

01:36:05.840 Okay.

01:36:07.060 Yes.

01:36:07.960 Totally.

01:36:08.580 I get it.

01:36:09.020 It makes sense.

01:36:09.800 Let's keep going because Michelle Obama's back in the news. 0.99

01:36:12.420 She's obsessing over race again.

01:36:14.040 I know you're shocked.

01:36:15.160 Shocked.

01:36:15.920 Here's a little bit of that from the Storehouse and Friends podcast this past Sunday.

01:36:20.600 If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point.

01:36:27.960 But the clothes have to be available.

01:36:31.500 You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes.

01:36:37.360 You know, what does our closet look like and who's in it?

01:36:41.280 Who are we supporting in it?

01:36:43.820 Right.

01:36:44.100 You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel, then you have the money to buy everybody.

01:36:50.200 Right.

01:36:51.000 And so let us be mindful.

01:36:54.020 I think would be my advice.

01:36:55.880 Yeah.

01:36:57.500 Oh my gosh.

01:36:58.320 Now we have to do work to make sure our closet has a diversity of designers. 0.99

01:37:05.940 She's not talking about make sure you have pink, green, blue, and black and white.

01:37:09.700 She's like, make sure you have people of color designing the clothes or somehow you've fallen down on your inclusive whatever duties.

01:37:18.080 Do you do that, Will?

01:37:20.160 I'm sure when you got dressed today, did you look into Patagonia?

01:37:23.420 Like, what is the color, the skin color of those behind the brand?

01:37:26.960 Oh, yeah.

01:37:27.340 If they're not white, I won't buy it. 1.00

01:37:28.760 Yeah. 0.98

01:37:28.980 It has to be from white people. 0.96

01:37:30.680 It's imperative. 0.81

01:37:31.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:32.640 What ridiculous. 0.96

01:37:33.660 They say there's all these race issues in America and racism is the biggest issue and we have to fight against these things. 0.96

01:37:38.400 And you have the most famous people in America constantly always talking about race any single time that they can.

01:37:44.160 And you want race isn't to be solved. 0.98

01:37:46.460 Just shut the hell up. 0.98

01:37:48.000 Like, you don't have to talk about these things and say anything. 0.99

01:37:50.780 And there will be no bad race relations in this country like the way these people proclaim that there are. 0.57

01:37:55.180 But they keep bringing them up and saying things like that and pitting us against each other, making it so that now I have to be here looking like if I say, oh, I only want to buy from white people, then I look like this horrible person. 0.98

01:38:06.100 It's all hypocrisy and nonsense. 0.97

01:38:07.880 And these issues only exist because of people like Michelle. 1.00

01:38:12.120 Yeah.

01:38:12.720 Don't you think, Britt, like the average person is just, do I like this or don't?

01:38:16.680 No one's thinking about the skin color of the designer.

01:38:20.220 Like, that's such a weird thing to ask us to focus on.

01:38:22.960 And in that way, clothing is very meritocratous.

01:38:26.220 It just screams privileged.

01:38:28.240 I don't have time.

01:38:29.180 I don't have time.

01:38:30.100 Or I'm not privileged enough to have time to go and find out exactly what melanin type was a part of constructing my jeans.

01:38:38.900 I just buy jeans because they look good.

01:38:41.400 American Eagle.

01:38:42.340 That's where I'm grabbing my jeans.

01:38:43.960 I don't care if it was a black, Asian, white, Hispanic dude or woman that put it all together. 0.97

01:38:49.740 I do care about American made.

01:38:51.720 That's important to me.

01:38:53.080 So if I have the opportunity to buy an American made pair of denim jeans, I'm going to go for that.

01:38:58.800 Overall, the woman made labels I see now when I go shopping, like woman owned is a big label.

01:39:04.480 I see BIPOC black owned. 1.00

01:39:06.720 I see all of those.

01:39:07.600 And I actually avoid those because they annoy me because I think it's a part of this culture that is so obsessed with race and pitting men against woman that I just want a good pair of denims.

01:39:18.000 And if it's American made, that that's where it ends for me.

01:39:21.680 So much the better.

01:39:22.960 Last but not least, in California, they are seriously considering a wealth tax that would tax individuals with a net worth over one billion.

01:39:32.720 A one time five percent tax on their total wealth, which would include unrealized gains.

01:39:39.360 So if you've made money on the stock market, but you haven't actually cashed in the stock, they're going to tax you on that.

01:39:45.300 And it would apply to those who are residents as of January 1st, 2026.

01:39:49.560 So, like, it's a retroactive tax.

01:39:52.340 Like, if you live there on the first of this year, you're screwed.

01:39:55.120 This is actually really scary and I would argue illegal.

01:39:58.660 I think it's going to face some serious legal challenges.

01:40:01.140 But here's Kara Swisher, leftist, who is angry at the billionaires who are already leaving California over this. 1.00

01:40:10.140 And I think what it is, it specifically targets about 100 people, I think it is, who are threatening to leave California, except for Jensen Huang, who's apparently staying.

01:40:19.320 I have two minds of this. 1.00

01:40:21.240 One is, you made your, and I said it to one this weekend, I said, you made all your money in California, you ingrateful piece of shit. 1.00

01:40:30.040 You could figure out a way to get, pay more taxes and we deserve the taxes from you, given you made your wealth here. 0.99

01:40:37.440 The second thing is, yes, there are different ways to do this, but the length of time it would take, the kind of vehemence you would fight, whatever happens, means nothing would happen.

01:40:46.380 So why don't we just do shock and awe at this point?

01:40:49.000 Because you don't seem to be, you know, availing yourself to thinking that you owe your state something more. 0.99

01:40:57.720 So if a billionaire who's paid money on all of his wealth as he's built it, Will, doesn't want to give 5% of his entire net worth, he's an ungrateful piece of shit, says Kara Swisher. 0.99

01:41:07.280 Well, she literally said it in there. 0.99

01:41:08.480 She said, you were working in California and made this money.

01:41:11.220 She said, you made the money, which should be the indicative thing right there, that if you made the money, why do you have to get, what entitlement does the state have to any of that money that you made, right?

01:41:20.460 I mean, already, and you look at it.

01:41:21.540 You already paid taxes on it.

01:41:22.820 You already paid taxes.

01:41:23.460 And then look at what California does with the taxes. 0.93

01:41:25.260 Look at the homelessness crisis.

01:41:26.360 How many billions did they put towards the homelessness crisis in California and it's only got worse?

01:41:31.180 It's the worst state in the union for homelessness and they put the most amount of money towards it.

01:41:35.260 Where are these taxes even going to go? 0.95

01:41:36.720 It's completely worthless.

01:41:38.360 So, yeah, I mean, it's totally unfair.

01:41:39.840 Exactly right.

01:41:40.540 You're a California taxpayer, Britt Payer.

01:41:42.920 Do you feel like they're using your money well?

01:41:44.900 I just wish they would tax us more, Megan.

01:41:46.880 I'm out here just thinking, man, they really need some more of my money.

01:41:50.800 No, but, you know, honestly, there are billionaires who are already leaving the state and moving their assets because of the risk of this.

01:41:57.020 Because this is how you kill a state.

01:42:00.400 And Gavin Newsom knows that.

01:42:01.580 And as slimy as that little guy is, he has been one of the first to come out against this California wealth tax and said that this will destroy California even more than it already is.

01:42:10.640 Because you take the billionaires out, then you take out the opportunity for job growth and creation.

01:42:14.940 And it de-centivizes living in California if you have money and ideas.

01:42:19.860 So the whole thing is a disaster.

01:42:22.000 I hope it doesn't even get enough signatures to go on ballot. 1.00

01:42:25.320 But it's amazing, like, you ungrateful piece of shit, she says to billionaires, as if they've just pocketed the money. 1.00

01:42:32.800 Unlike the rest of us, they didn't have to pay any taxes on it. 0.99

01:42:35.520 They've created no jobs and there's been absolutely no give back by these people to the community.

01:42:39.860 All these are leftist lies and what a bizarre way to treat the most successful among us, especially in California.

01:42:46.640 Okay, a pleasure, you guys.

01:42:48.220 Thank you so much for being here.

01:42:49.320 We'll talk again soon.

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01:43:00.300 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:43:08.720 Martha listens to her favorite band all the time.

01:43:11.520 In the car, gym, even sleeping.

01:43:15.740 So when they finally went on tour, Martha bundled her flight and hotel on Expedia to see them live.

01:43:21.880 She saved so much, she got her seat close enough to actually see and hear them.

01:43:26.800 Sort of.

01:43:28.060 You were made to scream from the front row.

01:43:30.340 We were made to quietly save you more.

01:43:32.740 Expedia. Made to travel.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 20, 2026

Don Lemon's Lies, Sad and Narcissistic Leftists, and the Beckham Drama, with James Woods, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1234

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