The Megyn Kelly Show - Donald Trump, Jr. on Another Potential Indictment for His Dad, Attacks on Aldean, and Liberal Hypocrisy ｜ Ep. 592

00:00:00.540 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.960 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:15.900 Today, a first-time guest is here with us and we have a ton to get to with him.

00:00:21.160 This week, his father, the former president of the United States of America,

00:00:24.780 was informed that he is the target of yet another criminal investigation.

00:00:30.000 And is likely to be indicted any day now.

00:00:32.960 And it comes as former President Trump maintains a massive lead over his GOP opponents for the 2024 nomination.

00:00:40.040 Joining me now, Donald Trump Jr., executive vice president of the Trump Organization

00:00:44.120 and host of Rumbles, Triggered with Donald Trump Jr.

00:00:48.740 Welcome to the show. Great to have you.

00:00:50.500 It's good to be back with you, Megyn. It's been a while.

00:00:52.920 I know. It's been a long time and what a week to reunite. My God.

00:00:57.280 I've done it. We won't be hurting for content.

00:01:01.900 No, we will not be hurting for content. I'm I have to say, I'm really I know you are,

00:01:05.340 but I'm really alarmed about what's happening with Jack Smith in this country.

00:01:08.880 And I thought your dad captured it perfectly when he called attention to this.

00:01:12.760 This one issue that shows how political what Jack Smith is doing is when he was on with Hannity the other night.

00:01:19.060 It bothers me. It bothers me for everybody in this incredible sold out audience.

00:01:27.060 And it's it bothers you. I got the letter on Sunday night. Think of it.

00:01:32.020 I don't think they've ever sent a letter on Sunday night and they're in a rush because they want to interfere.

00:01:36.960 It's interference with the election. It's election interference.

00:01:39.900 It's never been done like this in the history of our country. And it's a disgrace.

00:01:44.100 So that's exactly right, because there's no reason to rush a letter like the one Jack Smith said,

00:01:51.280 sent your dad on a Sunday night delivery, unless you as the prosecutor are worried about getting your trial started,

00:01:58.420 getting your trial date, making sure it happens before Fannie Willis down in Georgia.

00:02:03.180 You've got your cue in the election lineup before he runs for office.

00:02:07.160 It really is a tell that he said in that letter on Sunday night. What do you make of it?

00:02:10.260 A hundred percent. I mean, they're going to try to do anything to stop Trump.

00:02:13.960 This talking point that it's no, they really want to run against Trump.

00:02:16.880 No, that play is a 14th Amendment play.

00:02:18.940 They want to do the insurrection thing like they use from the Civil War days to prevent him from ever being on the ballot.

00:02:25.480 But, Megan, honestly, like at this point, I'm almost used to it.

00:02:28.440 You know, another day, another indictment.

00:02:30.660 We've seen this show before, but what's perhaps even more troubling, even though it's perhaps less personal to me,

00:02:36.440 but it is personal to me as an American, was what we saw this week with the 16 indictments in Michigan,

00:02:42.640 where a radical leftist attorney general is going after people who did what John F.

00:02:47.240 Kennedy did in 1960 and wanted to submit an alternate ballot set.

00:02:52.040 The Democrats have weaponized lawfare.

00:02:55.660 This is what they're doing. I don't know in any other time, maybe other than the Japanese internment camps during World War II,

00:03:03.260 where we seem to have and trying to create a class of political prisoners.

00:03:07.920 You see that with the treatment and the disparity of the treatment of the BLM, you know, 0.81

00:03:12.420 Summer of Love rioters versus the January 6th folks.

00:03:16.980 No due process.

00:03:18.860 When the exculpatory evidence comes out, they pretend like it's there.

00:03:21.980 They hid that from the prosecution. They hid that from the defense.

00:03:25.700 Meanwhile, you could do murder, arson, rioting, looting, billions in damage, taking over cities, taking over courthouses.

00:03:34.320 You know, all these things that I was told was insurrection.

00:03:36.740 If you do that in the supposed name of social justice, it's all well and good.

00:03:42.420 It's fine. It's forgotten.

00:03:43.980 Nothing will happen and nothing did happen.

00:03:46.520 They're trying to make a very defined point.

00:03:49.020 Not only are they trying to go after their biggest political rival, stuff that if it was going on in third world countries,

00:03:55.720 even the Uniparty in Washington, D.C., they'd be going into another war looking for regime change.

00:04:00.840 It's happening in America today.

00:04:03.300 And the people who are willing to call it out, they want to throw in jail.

00:04:06.280 This is this is scary stuff.

00:04:09.640 I mean, this is not I like to get out there and rant and talk about these things and make fun of it.

00:04:14.620 This is something you can't even make fun of anymore because they're not even pretending to be decent anymore.

00:04:20.660 They're not even pretending to not weaponize these things.

00:04:23.120 And, you know, we could talk for hours about just look at the disparate treatment between what they tried to do to me with the fake Russia, Russia, Russia hoax and what Hunter Biden gets to do for a decade.

00:04:33.480 But, you know, I have a feeling it'd be treated differently, Megan.

00:04:36.680 I just just a little bit.

00:04:38.300 I have the same feeling.

00:04:39.560 No, the cases are scary because while politically I think they're helpful to your father's run, his candidacy, legally, they there's risk for sure.

00:04:49.600 There's risk.

00:04:50.300 And given your dad's age, it actually could be a life sentence if this guy Jack Smith manages to get him in front of a D.C. jury in particular.

00:05:00.720 It's not that I like the legal case.

00:05:02.260 It's just that if he can if he can get past, you know, motion practice and get it in front of a D.C. jury, they went, what, 97 percent for Joe Biden in D.C.?

00:05:10.300 I mean, yeah, I don't think it's going to be fair.

00:05:13.240 I don't think it's going to be fair.

00:05:14.720 And by the way, that doesn't include, you know, what have we racked up to the charges even prior to the Jack's, the other Jack Smith stuff, you know, 450 years.

00:05:23.880 I know my dad is a young and vibrant guy.

00:05:27.260 No one's going to ever accuse him of being low energy.

00:05:30.220 But like, I don't know.

00:05:32.480 I'm not sure anyone, not even Donald Trump can wait that one out.

00:05:36.320 So but that's their intention.

00:05:37.960 I mean, think of how insane that is.

00:05:41.220 And again, the same.

00:05:42.920 How do you feel about it as the son?

00:05:44.760 I mean, I know you believe in your dad.

00:05:46.000 You believe that he'll, I presume, prevail.

00:05:49.320 But you've got in the back of your mind be concerned.

00:05:53.540 I mean, honestly, it's it's crazy to say it because it's almost hard to believe.

00:05:57.720 And I think unless you've sort of been in that.

00:06:01.220 I mean, they tried to do it to me, right?

00:06:02.680 Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:06:03.820 You remember well, I think I spoke with you back in the Fox News days about it at the time.

00:06:07.600 And my lawyers, you can't go on TV and defend yourself.

00:06:09.800 They'll use it against you.

00:06:11.000 They're trying you for treason, a crime punishable by death. 0.95

00:06:14.460 And, you know, these weren't like clowns in the media. 0.91

00:06:17.320 And there's plenty of them, most of them.

00:06:19.500 But this was like the head of the Intelligence Committee saying this daily, publicly.

00:06:25.540 But, you know, after a while, though, and again, it's hard to sort of rationalize because I

00:06:30.400 understand that it's not a normal human emotional response.

00:06:34.100 But when you've been sort of backed in that corner for seven, six, seven years now, when

00:06:38.500 you've been prodded endlessly, you know, it's fight or flight.

00:06:41.460 Like, and I just decided to fight.

00:06:42.940 And so I guess it's different.

00:06:45.020 I don't even think about it.

00:06:46.000 It's like, oh, like I said earlier, another day, another indictment.

00:06:48.900 I'm like, I get it.

00:06:50.220 It's real. 0.98

00:06:51.280 But what they want is they want you to crawl into a corner and die. 1.00

00:06:55.640 They want you to get in the fetal position and suck your thumb and cry for mama. 1.00

00:06:58.940 And guess what? 0.99

00:06:59.320 If you do that, they're not going to go any less on you.

00:07:02.500 That's just the first sign that they've got you.

00:07:04.520 And they're going to go harder.

00:07:05.500 And so, you know, we have no choice.

00:07:07.760 We got to keep fighting.

00:07:08.560 And I think all of America has to do the same because everything that you hold near and dear,

00:07:14.220 everything that we value, our freedoms, our basic rights, they're all on the table for

00:07:20.200 the Democrats.

00:07:20.920 And again, Megan, the people that I've listened, you know, screeching about democracy for the

00:07:27.860 last six or seven years when, you know, we had a booming economy, when we were ending

00:07:31.180 wars, when we were energy independent, all of the things that we, you know, those people

00:07:35.060 are strangely silent now.

00:07:37.000 You know, the silence is deafening.

00:07:39.520 It's almost like it's just a BS talking point.

00:07:42.360 And that's what it is, because otherwise they'd be pretty vocal about this, because

00:07:45.860 they have been when the same has been done in the banana republics around the world.

00:07:49.840 They've been very vocal about it.

00:07:51.160 But we've turned into that banana republic.

00:07:53.160 And I imagine we were there quite some time ago, but it took Trump to bring it out.

00:07:59.440 You know, you see, we have a commander in chief that, you know, a challenging thing is

00:08:03.240 like walking up a flight of stairs and it's totally normal.

00:08:05.900 It's fine.

00:08:06.540 You know, it's it's lunacy, but we're living it.

00:08:09.500 Mm hmm.

00:08:11.000 It's these are very dark days and they're they're rushing to get their indictments in

00:08:15.520 so that they can make sure he faces a jury before the election.

00:08:19.160 It just tells you everything you need to know.

00:08:21.240 And yet that doesn't mean that they won't prevail in front of these juries in particular.

00:08:25.480 Can I ask you quickly, how's he doing on the law front, on the legal, the lawyer front?

00:08:30.080 Because there was a B.S. period where he struggled to get the top notch talent because of the I think

00:08:36.780 the Alan Dershowitz effect where Dershowitz, who defended Bill Clinton in his impeachment

00:08:41.900 proceeding, then defended your dad because he defends the Constitution.

00:08:45.940 It's not he's open that he doesn't vote for your dad, but he's a Democrat.

00:08:50.500 Yeah, he's a Democrat.

00:08:51.360 So there was this sort of cascade of lawyers who were like, I don't I don't want to get the

00:08:55.980 Alan Dershowitz treatment where I can't get clients or I get smeared or I can't get a seat

00:08:59.580 at Martha's Vineyard, whatever it is.

00:09:01.320 So is that turning now that Trump's up 30 points in the polls and, you know,

00:09:06.180 that's not pouring in?

00:09:07.440 Yeah, not really.

00:09:08.780 I mean, I think, you know, I'm actually very happy with the legal team right now.

00:09:12.680 But no, that is a challenge, right?

00:09:13.960 They know these people who want to do that.

00:09:15.880 There are people in these firms who still believe in the Constitution, but they understand

00:09:19.560 that if they do that, you know, their other clients will disappear.

00:09:23.820 The D.C. lobbyist crowd will stop using them to do that work.

00:09:29.000 They're not even if they believe in the cause, they're not going to take or risk the political

00:09:33.680 capital of even being associated with even if it's sort of like a dream case for a constitutional

00:09:39.760 lawyer.

00:09:40.460 And so, you know, no different than cancel culture everywhere else.

00:09:43.520 There's a there's a very palpable attempt to to prevent you from, you know, you got to

00:09:50.380 be I guess Trump's going to have to use a public defender type of thing, because even

00:09:53.800 if you want to, even if you're going to pay for the best talent, they're not going to

00:09:57.700 touch it, not because they don't believe in it, not because they wouldn't want to, but

00:10:01.720 because they know it's the end of their career.

00:10:03.640 It's sort of like the people in medicine who were like, you know what?

00:10:08.180 Did we ever think maybe the Wuhan virus came from the lab in Wuhan that studies the exact 0.90

00:10:16.200 virus that we've been funding through the NIH?

00:10:18.300 And like, well, I mean, of course it did.

00:10:21.680 Like, when was that ever not the most plausible answer?

00:10:25.100 And yet it didn't matter if you as a medical professional did that, you were out of academia,

00:10:30.700 you were out of medicine.

00:10:32.060 The NIH would cut off any funding for any other unrelated project.

00:10:36.080 You are.

00:10:36.440 You have to follow the gospel.

00:10:38.120 You must be obedient sheep and do whatever the board is telling you to do.

00:10:43.340 And so, you know, it's no different in some of this and, you know, just yet another thing

00:10:47.560 that's been weaponized against anyone who's willing to challenge the norms of the swamp.

00:10:52.600 We just did a story the other day on how the endocrinologists of America have behind the

00:10:58.740 scenes serious reservations about what they're doing to children in the name of, quote, gender

00:11:03.920 affirming care.

00:11:04.840 But they've been going along with it because they're worried because their society, the American

00:11:09.520 Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics says, oh, that's the best standard.

00:11:12.960 But they know it's not true, but they're afraid.

00:11:15.140 So it's a similar situation with lawyers here.

00:11:16.980 It's a lie.

00:11:17.340 It's a woke lie. 0.91

00:11:19.280 I mean, the trans mafia, as I refer to them as, you know, it's I'd say it's the most powerful 1.00

00:11:25.420 lobby in America right now.

00:11:27.080 If you're trans, you're in the most privileged class in society. 0.94

00:11:31.120 You can do anything you want. 0.93

00:11:33.840 You're totally nothing.

00:11:36.420 You are beyond reproach. 0.99

00:11:38.380 And it's nonsense.

00:11:39.240 I've never seen like such a small demographic be able to command and hold so much power based

00:11:45.600 on a lie.

00:11:46.520 Now, you're not allowed to talk about recidivism rates.

00:11:49.280 You're not allowed to talk about the depression and the people that later on come to believe

00:11:53.700 that, you know, shockingly, shockingly, they were influenced into making a bad decision

00:11:58.160 at the age of six.

00:11:59.800 And now they regret it.

00:12:01.340 Now they are permanently, you know, they've damaged their bodies.

00:12:04.120 They can't go back there on these crazy drug cocktails for the rest of their lives.

00:12:10.260 And shockingly, they're depressed and they'd love to go back.

00:12:12.720 But they have they have no way to go after the doctors who did this.

00:12:16.620 You know, the rainbow haired colored freak teachers that convinced them at the age of 0.99

00:12:20.240 three that they really, you know, I wanted to be an airplane when I was a child.

00:12:23.880 My parents didn't let me jump off a building.

00:12:25.940 You know, they let me have an imagination.

00:12:28.160 You know, there is a difference between, you know, allowing that and an insanity.

00:12:32.960 But we're at the point where the insane are totally controlling what's going on.

00:12:38.860 And we have to say one of the famous one of the famous lines on this show came from Rick

00:12:42.760 Grinnell, who worked for your dad and, you know, the country and is a supporter of your

00:12:47.100 dad's and said, you can't vote for these people. 0.99

00:12:49.040 They're insane. 0.99

00:12:49.460 They can't even tell you what a woman is. 1.00

00:12:50.800 I said, you know, that is like the best summation of the insanity going on in our country

00:12:56.360 right now that I've heard.

00:12:57.140 It's just so simple.

00:12:57.860 Yes.

00:12:58.080 How can you vote for somebody who can't even define what a woman is? 1.00

00:13:00.140 But wait, let me table the gender thing, because I want to finish up on Jack Smith.

00:13:04.160 Unlike your father, he's getting very, very fawning press coverage.

00:13:07.860 But I don't think I've seen anything so fawning as what was on CNN the other day when they covered

00:13:14.140 him getting a sandwich from Subway like it was the Queen's Jubilee.

00:13:21.180 Here's just a bit of them talking about that moment.

00:13:23.380 Turns out even Jack Smith can't resist a $5 footlong.

00:13:28.500 That's according to what we see right there, new and exclusive CNN video of the special

00:13:33.260 counsel at Subway.

00:13:34.820 Declining, though, to respond to reporters' questions about today's big news, a target

00:13:39.200 letter sent to the former president of the United States.

00:13:41.900 They clearly wanted us to see him and that image to be very different from what we saw

00:13:48.020 in the former president's post, which is that he's a deranged individual.

00:13:52.420 Yeah, I mean, look, you can I can count probably five or six sandwich shops between his office

00:13:58.240 and that location that he was he was at earlier today.

00:14:02.240 He was he stood in line just like everybody else.

00:14:05.500 Oh, my God.

00:14:07.020 Exclusive new and exclusive.

00:14:09.480 Jack Smith gets a sandwich.

00:14:11.400 He wanted that image out there, Don.

00:14:14.080 Maybe the man just wanted lunch.

00:14:15.760 Yes, but no, I mean, you can see how it's set up, right, because they're trying to do

00:14:20.500 anything to take away from Jack Smith's actually rather corrupt history.

00:14:26.920 I mean, you know, I understand that him getting a sandwich is really big news, Megan, but strangely

00:14:31.860 enough, they don't talk about the things that would be, let's just say, you know, almost

00:14:35.440 disbarrable type offenses in his past.

00:14:38.340 There's a reason he was handpicked to do this, because if you look at his record, it should

00:14:43.300 be pretty clear to anyone who's going to even pretend to be objective that this is just

00:14:47.480 a paid henchman.

00:14:48.400 This is someone willing to do anything, someone who's clearly willing to not even follow the

00:14:52.960 basic norms of our justice system to get what he wants.

00:14:56.200 And that is exactly what the Democrats want.

00:14:59.820 They want activists.

00:15:01.760 They don't want people.

00:15:02.480 They want constitutionalists.

00:15:03.860 God forbid you actually follow the law.

00:15:05.840 They want someone, and it doesn't matter how they get there, but the ends will always

00:15:12.360 justify the means.

00:15:13.900 That's apparent, because I've not seen a single story about whether it's him, whether

00:15:18.720 it's the prosecutor in Florida, their, let's just say, rather shady past.

00:15:24.600 But that's the problem with the D.C.

00:15:26.780 swamp.

00:15:27.160 That's the problem with these people.

00:15:28.560 If you're, you know, a Strzok, a McCabe, a Brennan, you can lie before Congress, Megan.

00:15:33.920 You know, when they did, when I did 50 hours plus of testimony, you know, looking for me

00:15:38.920 to put a comma in the wrong spot, I'd have been in jail for perjury.

00:15:41.800 You can actually perjure yourself before Congress if you're a Democrat trying to get to those

00:15:47.040 ends.

00:15:47.900 And not only do you not get fired, not only do you not lose your pensions, you get to

00:15:53.360 also be a contributing host on CNN.

00:15:55.900 And you can lecture the country on moral decency.

00:15:59.240 It, it, you can't make it up.

00:16:01.300 I mean, I know every day I feel like the Truman show, Megan, I'm waiting for like, you know,

00:16:06.560 someone to like the camera to fall out of the ceiling.

00:16:08.560 Be like, we've just been messing with you this whole time because there's no way this

00:16:11.640 is real in the United States of America.

00:16:14.000 First of all, can I just say just an observation?

00:16:15.800 I know you've heard this many times, but your gestures are so much like your dad's.

00:16:18.480 And we did a study.

00:16:19.740 We did a show on this when it came to twins and triplets. 0.96

00:16:23.100 Gestures and mannerisms are inherited.

00:16:25.940 They are inherited.

00:16:26.860 So that's why you'll see identical twins who have like the same exact and, you know,

00:16:31.020 it's, it's so fun to just to see.

00:16:32.600 I'm sure people comment on it all the time.

00:16:34.200 Yeah, I get that a lot.

00:16:35.500 It's interesting.

00:16:36.060 You know, there's my hobbies are so different than my father's and we're, we actually used

00:16:40.220 to think that we were very different.

00:16:41.600 I think it was actually politics and not business that we realized maybe we're actually a lot

00:16:47.540 more similar than we ever thought.

00:16:49.120 And it was whether it's interesting, you know, perhaps the demeanor, perhaps the fight and

00:16:52.740 certainly the hand gestures that just weren't as, uh, as prevalent, you know, giving a PowerPoint

00:16:57.080 presentation and business.

00:16:58.800 But did that move you up beyond Ivanka?

00:17:01.360 Because she's been, you know, number one.

00:17:03.200 You know, Ivanka is always going to be the little girl. 0.54

00:17:05.640 It's okay.

00:17:06.080 I, you know, I'm totally comfortable being that.

00:17:08.340 And that's, what's funny.

00:17:09.400 It's, uh, it was the calls even during the presidency, you know, uh, Don, this is the

00:17:13.940 White House operator.

00:17:14.780 The president would like to speak to you.

00:17:16.040 I'm like, well, you know what I do now, guys, I was on a first name basis with these guys.

00:17:18.980 Hey, Don, you're getting a little too aggressive on social media.

00:17:23.460 And I'm like, well, wait, do you know, hold up a second.

00:17:29.140 Yeah.

00:17:29.660 I was like, listen, we have to have a conversation about self-awareness, Dad.

00:17:32.940 Like, I appreciate that.

00:17:34.300 I will listen to you on so many things.

00:17:36.560 I, you know, I appreciate your advice.

00:17:39.040 So business, otherwise, uh, I get, this is one place that perhaps, just perhaps you

00:17:43.880 have seated the moral high ground and we gotta, uh, we gotta have a conversation.

00:17:47.020 But that happened on more than one occasion.

00:17:49.020 So it was kind of funny.

00:17:50.160 All right.

00:17:50.640 Speaking of that, you're many times inside the White House.

00:17:53.820 Can I ask you about cocaine White House?

00:17:56.080 Um, I mean, you've been, you've been in the exact area where they're saying they found

00:17:59.580 this cocaine.

00:18:00.140 I'm sure many times.

00:18:01.840 The thing that keeps bothering me about it, Don, is that, that why they closed the investigation?

00:18:05.680 Why after nine days did they say it's over?

00:18:09.900 Like we couldn't find the person and it's over.

00:18:12.240 We had to move up.

00:18:13.000 Why?

00:18:13.280 Why'd they have to move on?

00:18:14.060 Because that leads directly to Hunter Biden and they're going to, the bureaucrats are

00:18:18.000 going to do that to protect.

00:18:19.480 I mean, listen, I had a, I had a secret service detail for a few years.

00:18:22.840 First, first and foremost, the only people that are getting cocaine into the White House

00:18:26.860 are people who probably have a secret service detail because the level of screening is just

00:18:30.260 different, right?

00:18:31.160 So the regular people are going through sniffing dogs.

00:18:34.240 They're going through x-rays.

00:18:35.460 You know, they're not throwing their eight ball, uh, you know, on a, on a tray going through

00:18:39.660 screening and getting through that doesn't happen.

00:18:41.440 So that's first and foremost, but you know, I also had a great relationship with a lot

00:18:46.380 of my guys, uh, you know, lifelong friends and, you know, I'll say, you know, from the

00:18:51.340 ones that aren't current, uh, the calls that I've gotten be like, they would have never

00:18:55.900 eat, you know, cause again, the difference between the bureaucrats and the door kickers, 1.00

00:18:58.660 we can talk about all the, all day long, right?

00:19:00.340 The bureaucrats that run the FBI and the guys that actually do the work, uh, two very different

00:19:04.880 mentalities, two very different people.

00:19:06.340 And yet the people who are the bureaucrats have all that control, you know, my, my guys

00:19:10.660 are like, Oh my God.

00:19:11.900 Like if that was you, if that was Don jr there, there wouldn't have been an investigation when

00:19:16.220 you have the most famous coke head in the world, in the white house, they'd be like Hunter 1.00

00:19:19.580 Biden, obviously like there isn't, you know, that they can do that.

00:19:23.660 You know, we, we just magically couldn't find enough evidence, the most monitored house in

00:19:28.240 the world.

00:19:28.780 Like no one saw who went into the room.

00:19:31.120 Like it's not even, it's not even believable.

00:19:34.500 I mean, it's not believable to the ordinary citizen and it's far less believable to me

00:19:38.600 having been there, knowing the protocols, knowing the amount of security, zero chance.

00:19:46.940 Uh, but, but again, we, we see that time and time again, right?

00:19:50.000 It's no different than what we saw this week with the IRS whistleblowers.

00:19:54.080 I mean, you know, if that was Don jr's laptop, you know, I, I would say, you know, not only

00:19:59.300 would I be in Gitmo from the government, my father would have been sending me there.

00:20:03.180 Uh, you know, it, it's a little different.

00:20:05.120 If I took a billion from China, it would be a problem.

00:20:09.080 If I had no show jobs in Ukraine, only the places where my father actually had influence

00:20:13.760 as vice president, let's just say that would be an issue.

00:20:16.940 I mean, we're Megan, like we can even joke about it and the cocaine and the insanity, but

00:20:21.700 like we're, according to the Biden administration, the closest we've been to nuclear war since

00:20:29.360 the Cuban missile crisis.

00:20:30.700 And we don't even ask the question, Hey, do you think maybe some of our policy is being

00:20:36.460 influenced because they have another Hunter Biden laptop.

00:20:40.200 They have more information, uh, that hasn't been made public.

00:20:44.860 You know, I imagine there are things that Hunter didn't film and put on video that we're still

00:20:49.520 probably, let's call it less than kosher that someone else has.

00:20:53.300 And our press, you know, regime propagandists, we'll call them, they won't even ask the question

00:20:59.420 like, Hey, are we spending $130 billion in USA?

00:21:03.620 We don't have three to finish our border, but to defend Ukraine because the Ukraine, you 0.59

00:21:07.800 know, they're holding this up over the Biden, like we're not even willing to ask the question

00:21:11.300 because to me, that seems most of them, most of them did not even cover the whistleblowers.

00:21:15.760 Most of them did not even cover the whistleblowers testimony.

00:21:18.440 It was not live on CNN or MSNBC.

00:21:20.700 Fox carried it because they're not interested in corruption within the DOJ that helps Democrats.

00:21:27.440 They're not interested.

00:21:28.180 I mean, the very fact that there's no special counsel, um, to, uh, to investigate Biden, uh,

00:21:34.820 but there's a special counsel to investigate Trump where there's not, not a conflict of interest.

00:21:38.460 Like they can investigate Trump.

00:21:39.660 I'm sure that they go, go for him and no loyalty to Biden's going to stop that.

00:21:43.820 But when they have to investigate their own boss, oh no, we don't need a special counsel

00:21:47.360 for that.

00:21:47.740 You know, I guess attorney general Garland can do it.

00:21:50.580 Well, no one believes that, but it's, I mean, people are catching on.

00:21:53.720 That's why your dad hasn't been hurt in the polls.

00:21:55.420 But as we outlined, that doesn't mean the legal jeopardy lifts.

00:21:58.520 But let's talk about the polls and politics.

00:22:00.680 Um, so DeSantis this week to me, who is, as I point out 30 points behind your dad, it, you

00:22:05.440 know, at least it depends on the poll.

00:22:06.740 But, um, started, I won't say he took the gloves off.

00:22:10.900 He might've like taken a, like a couple knuckles off, um, where he just to start, he started

00:22:16.160 to go after your dad a little bit more robustly.

00:22:18.860 I thought it was kind of interesting because he hasn't really done that as much.

00:22:22.260 Here he is on, of all places, Howie Kurtz, uh, doing that.

00:22:25.500 Take a listen.

00:22:25.860 He promised to drain the swamp.

00:22:30.980 It got worse.

00:22:32.060 He did not drain the swamp.

00:22:33.600 He promised to bill, have Mexico pay for a border wall.

00:22:36.540 They did like 50 miles of wall.

00:22:38.860 There's massive expansive still there.

00:22:41.140 He said he was going to eliminate the national debt.

00:22:44.100 They added almost $8 trillion to the debt, uh, in four years.

00:22:48.420 And of course, in 2020, he turned the country over to Dr. Fauci and those lockdowns and the

00:22:54.920 borrowing and printing really sent us on a bad course.

00:22:58.860 All right.

00:22:59.340 There's a lot in there, uh, but your thoughts on his shift in tactics and in particular,

00:23:03.980 can you speak to the Fauci thing?

00:23:05.220 Because I do hear that from people who like to do me a favor, because if it's out there,

00:23:10.200 you'll find it.

00:23:11.220 Have you, your viewers find me one piece of evidence before he started essentially running

00:23:16.560 for president where Fauci, where Ron DeSantis was calling to fire Dr. Fauci, you know, just

00:23:22.280 like he was out there promoting the vaccine on TV commercials.

00:23:27.320 They had the same policies of Trump.

00:23:29.040 He likes to pretend it's different.

00:23:30.240 Trump left it to the States.

00:23:31.760 Ron DeSantis left the mandates, et cetera, to the counties.

00:23:35.860 They're actually very similar policies.

00:23:37.900 So it's easy to take sort of the, you know, the cues of, you know, his paid online influencers

00:23:44.140 to be like, this is what I would have done.

00:23:45.740 Show me video of him doing it because I can show you a lot of video of him praising these

00:23:49.140 things and doing the exact opposite.

00:23:51.440 But that's perhaps the problem with Ron DeSantis.

00:23:54.360 You know, he was sort of running this, the shadow campaign put together by influencers where

00:23:58.320 he wasn't saying anything and they were building them up.

00:24:00.680 But as someone who spent like weeks with Ron DeSantis, probably more than any person

00:24:05.180 who wasn't part of his campaign in like 18, the image that was created online does not

00:24:11.880 line up with the actual image of Ron DeSantis.

00:24:15.220 You know, he doesn't have that thing.

00:24:18.120 I mean, I think you talked about, you know, what would happen if they actually debated.

00:24:21.360 It's just not the same league.

00:24:22.500 But you can create a lot with sort of that online meme influencer thing, but it doesn't

00:24:27.820 stand up.

00:24:29.300 You know, again, Ron DeSantis praised the vaccine on TV numerous times.

00:24:35.700 He even attacked the media for saying that he was anti-vax.

00:24:40.680 I mean, that's all documented.

00:24:42.180 So it's easy to do the revisionist history if no one's willing to actually call it out.

00:24:46.900 But these are the facts.

00:24:48.580 So DeSantis in March, maybe April of 2020, was actually publicly pressuring my father

00:24:55.080 to shut down and ban interstate commerce.

00:24:58.680 No one talks about that, Megan.

00:25:00.540 Like these these are facts that are conveniently neglected because it's really easy to say,

00:25:06.600 this is what I would have done.

00:25:08.900 It didn't happen.

00:25:10.320 And the record speaks for itself.

00:25:12.040 So, you know, as I always say, sort of to get to know Ron DeSantis is to dislike him.

00:25:16.080 And then you see, more importantly, on the shifts in Ukraine, you saw what he told Tucker

00:25:20.540 Carlson.

00:25:20.980 We all saw that.

00:25:22.360 Two days later, Karl Rove, Paul Ryan, the billionaire donor class, you know, they're really

00:25:27.500 America first, unless they can get their widget from China for a quarter cent cheaper, in which

00:25:31.140 case then they flip flop on the American people.

00:25:34.520 180.

00:25:35.720 You saw that change.

00:25:37.580 And then this is time and time again.

00:25:40.100 So, you know, I don't believe that Ron DeSantis isn't going to be beholden to his billionaire

00:25:44.640 donor class because he needs them.

00:25:46.880 He needs them desperately.

00:25:48.500 There's a reason.

00:25:49.580 Look at the people who are out there endorsing him.

00:25:51.700 Look at the people who are putting millions of dollars into their campaign.

00:25:54.760 You think they're like true, like MAGA base, America first, or you think they're like just,

00:25:59.700 you know, the D.C.

00:26:00.940 Republican Uni Party.

00:26:02.720 That's pretty clear.

00:26:03.740 You can look at all of the people and understand exactly where he is.

00:26:06.780 The fundraising numbers that just came in showed that he's getting more money from the bigger

00:26:11.160 donors and Trump's getting more money from the smaller donors, which is helpful to Trump

00:26:15.180 because you can go back to the smaller donors.

00:26:17.220 You can go back to them.

00:26:17.900 17% small dollar donors for Ron DeSantis.

00:26:20.280 17%, Megan.

00:26:22.580 That's not a big portion.

00:26:25.000 17% of his donors are small dollar donors.

00:26:27.960 The rest are the billionaires.

00:26:29.600 That should tell us everything you need to know.

00:26:31.420 They know that they can control him.

00:26:32.760 And that's not what works.

00:26:33.580 I understand the game.

00:26:35.060 They want the billionaire donor class that you think they're writing because they believe

00:26:38.460 in this stuff.

00:26:38.960 No, they're writing these checks because they want someone to pick up the phone when they

00:26:43.240 call.

00:26:43.880 And when they say jump, they say how high.

00:26:47.020 Ron DeSantis needs that.

00:26:48.620 Donald Trump doesn't.

00:26:49.960 They're going against them because they don't want a strong on China policy.

00:26:53.800 That should be clear if it hasn't been across all of corporate America.

00:26:58.320 And, you know, even the Republican billionaire donor class are part of that culture. 0.95

00:27:01.920 If they can get their stuff cheaper, that's what they want to do.

00:27:04.620 So, you know, we'll be America first flight.

00:27:07.160 And we just, you know, maybe we won't touch this.

00:27:08.740 Or we'll tell you what you want to hear until you vote for us.

00:27:10.520 And then we'll do the opposite.

00:27:11.920 So, you know, between the flip-flop on Ukraine, between those things, like, I had actually

00:27:16.540 had greater hopes for Ron DeSantis, that we'd have a deeper bench.

00:27:19.520 Because I actually believe in this stuff.

00:27:20.860 I was a real estate developer before I got thrown into sort of this journey.

00:27:25.300 While I was always a conservative and believed in these things, you know, I want a bench,

00:27:32.640 not just Donald Trump, and then everyone else is a rhino squish. 0.90

00:27:36.040 You know, unfortunately, I think I've been disappointed by a lot of the people that I

00:27:40.060 had hopes for.

00:27:41.880 And again, perhaps that's because they need the money.

00:27:43.940 You know, that's unfortunate.

00:27:45.700 But don't mistake a lot of the attacks against Trump are also to prevent other people like

00:27:50.420 him who don't need those people from ever getting in the race.

00:27:54.180 I think that's a big part of all of this as well.

00:27:56.500 He's got 17 percent small donors, one seven.

00:27:59.560 What does Trump have?

00:28:01.180 You know what?

00:28:01.820 I don't know the exact number.

00:28:03.060 I know we have an average dollar, you know, dollar figure of about 34 bucks a person.

00:28:06.900 So it's it's pretty significant.

00:28:09.540 It's, you know, I don't want to give you an exact quote because someone will fact check

00:28:12.740 me, but it's probably inverse.

00:28:17.860 Here's the other thing, a different message I've heard from him, which is he said it before,

00:28:22.200 and I think he's probably going to land on this and it's more recent.

00:28:24.380 He sat with Jake Tapper and I think this is probably his number one argument for why

00:28:30.600 it should be him and not Trump.

00:28:32.860 It's SOT 10.

00:28:34.520 This country needs to have a debate about the country's future.

00:28:38.920 If I'm the nominee, we'll be able to focus on President Biden's failures and I'll be able

00:28:43.780 to articulate a positive vision for the future.

00:28:46.460 I don't think it serves us good to have a presidential election focused on what happened four years

00:28:51.480 ago.

00:28:53.460 What do you make of that one, Don?

00:28:55.340 I don't know.

00:28:55.980 I think the fact that they're talking to Jake Tapper tells you probably everything you need

00:29:00.960 to know.

00:29:01.360 You know, arguably the number one person pushing the lie of the Russia, Russia hoax that they

00:29:08.140 can feel comfortable going and talking there.

00:29:11.000 You know, again, I don't know.

00:29:12.920 I've seen too many of the supposed convictions flip flop.

00:29:16.160 So it's just I don't think it means anything.

00:29:19.560 I think you can say that.

00:29:20.600 But again, that's the new argument.

00:29:23.000 The argument last month was electability.

00:29:25.480 Ron DeSantis is the only guy that can do that, you know, except every poll has Trump beating

00:29:28.800 Biden and none of them have Ron DeSantis, other than maybe an outlier here or there.

00:29:33.160 Like, so they have to change their argument.

00:29:35.560 It's a constant changing argument that never actually seems to work.

00:29:38.660 And again, I have a feeling and I just understanding the base traveling around the country, probably

00:29:46.960 more than any person that's not a candidate and probably more than most of the candidates

00:29:50.240 speaking to real Americans.

00:29:52.300 I'm far more concerned about just trying to prolong an inevitable primary, spending hundreds

00:29:58.840 of millions of dollars to try to get someone with, you know, whether it's Ron DeSantis or

00:30:04.880 you know, one of the people that's pulling it, pulling it exactly, you know, let's call

00:30:08.020 it point oh two percent, you know, on a podium for five minutes to eventually get the CNBC

00:30:14.320 conservative contributorship role.

00:30:17.220 That's money we're not spending to take on.

00:30:19.080 What are you trying to say about Doug Burgum?

00:30:20.780 This is that is an unfair shot.

00:30:23.740 No, it's not.

00:30:24.740 But it's just it's just real, Megan.

00:30:26.480 There's people that I know.

00:30:27.680 This is the point I've heard.

00:30:30.140 And I've heard conservative grassroots.

00:30:31.940 And I've heard conservative grassroots organizations say to me privately, all this money that's

00:30:37.400 going into like this process right now could be spent trying to get Joe Biden.

00:30:41.020 And the Democrats have the advantage of not having to worry about that since they're not

00:30:45.380 allowing a primary of him, despite the fact that there are many, many Democrats who want

00:30:49.280 one.

00:30:50.040 But of course, this is the process is how it always plays out.

00:30:52.480 He's got to fight for it.

00:30:53.340 It's not his until it's his and no one's ceding the ground.

00:30:56.860 That leads me to the Fox News debate, the very first debate, which is August 23rd.

00:31:00.700 And you and I both know your dad will skip a Fox News debate.

00:31:05.060 He is.

00:31:05.980 He don't don't bet he won't.

00:31:09.040 But will he skip this one?

00:31:10.580 What do you think?

00:31:11.920 You know, it's it's an interesting one.

00:31:13.760 I'm torn. 0.80

00:31:15.520 I'm torn in the sense that, you know, as someone who likes to talk crap online and do the meme

00:31:21.960 thing, I think it gives someone like me a lot of interesting material.

00:31:25.520 But to sort of the point I was making a minute ago, do you give, you know, a Doug Burgum?

00:31:30.840 And, you know, I like that.

00:31:31.540 I have met him.

00:31:32.020 I campaigned for him.

00:31:33.180 But like prior to about two weeks ago, again, if you would have put him in a lineup, I probably

00:31:36.840 would have forgotten who he was.

00:31:39.320 Do you give someone polling at point two percent three weeks to work with a team of writers

00:31:45.360 to come up with a zinger for Trump that will then be weaponized?

00:31:48.300 Like that's not strategy.

00:31:49.800 It's different in 16.

00:31:50.900 Right.

00:31:51.020 You have we were told we had zero percent chance of winning.

00:31:54.340 It was a marketing stunt.

00:31:55.560 You couldn't possibly do the primary.

00:31:57.240 You couldn't possibly win the general.

00:31:58.980 You know, we've heard this before.

00:32:00.220 But there you were polling is you were the point two percent outlier when you're beating

00:32:05.320 some of these people by 60 points.

00:32:07.920 Do you give Asa Hutchinson a chance?

00:32:10.540 It's like mixed martial arts, right?

00:32:11.920 That you can have a better fighter.

00:32:13.580 Sometimes the worst fighter lands something and it's just do you do you create that opportunity?

00:32:18.760 So I don't get it.

00:32:20.000 I don't see it.

00:32:20.720 There's a component of me that wants to see it only because I'm a masochist and I love

00:32:24.960 having fun with this stuff later on.

00:32:26.340 But, you know, the strategist side of me says I'm looking at the numbers, I'm looking at

00:32:31.100 the lead and I'm saying, I don't know, it'd be sort of foolish to to actually put yourself

00:32:35.220 out there.

00:32:36.540 Is it all nerve wracking for you when he's out there?

00:32:39.620 Like, you know, even when I'm out there as a debate moderator, I know my husband gets

00:32:45.760 a little nervous and this is your dad.

00:32:47.660 You know, he can do it.

00:32:48.880 But do you ever feel nerves for him?

00:32:51.280 Yeah, I think you do, actually.

00:32:52.720 I mean, you know, even, you know, the the CNN town hall a couple of weeks ago, I was just

00:32:57.040 like, really?

00:32:57.780 Like, but like, you know, that's the thing.

00:32:59.680 He's a pugilist, right?

00:33:00.680 He wants to be out there.

00:33:02.020 He does want to be in that fight.

00:33:03.640 That's what that's what he does.

00:33:05.480 And it's sort of, you know, you have the argument.

00:33:07.500 Well, we just want someone who's not really going to fight or be vicious.

00:33:10.380 I go, well, you know, the demeanor argument.

00:33:12.260 And I always counter that with, you know, if they attacked you, if they lied about you,

00:33:16.760 if they said you were an agent of Russia, they try to put your family in jail.

00:33:20.080 Like, you think your demeanor would be a little different?

00:33:22.540 I mean, all the things they accused him of with the bad demeanor.

00:33:25.500 Like, he was sort of pushing back against things that have since been proven to be lies,

00:33:29.820 like most of the conspiracy theories, right?

00:33:31.280 Just wait six months and it'll turn out to be the truth.

00:33:33.240 But it doesn't matter because they notch the win at the time.

00:33:36.860 Most are unwilling to fight back.

00:33:39.180 So they just take it as though it's the gospel.

00:33:41.400 And then when you're proven right, you know, we do a great job of trailing.

00:33:44.160 Oh, we won on social media.

00:33:45.420 It's like, no, no, no.

00:33:46.320 Like, they got everything they wanted out of this.

00:33:48.680 Like, we get the win later on.

00:33:49.760 They don't care.

00:33:50.200 They're laughing their asses off, having gotten the win and having weaponized, you know,

00:33:55.700 the truth.

00:33:57.040 And so, you know, it's interesting.

00:33:58.780 So, you know, you do get nervous, but I know he likes being out there.

00:34:01.420 So, you know, try to have some fun with it as well.

00:34:03.720 It's easier when you're out there, when you're the one in control, you know,

00:34:06.900 whatever it is, whether it's a hit you're doing or speech.

00:34:09.100 So much easier when you feel like you're in control and so much more painful when it's

00:34:12.100 someone you love.

00:34:13.620 On the subject of Fox News, I heard you say they've gone dark on you.

00:34:17.020 Are you are you kicked off of Fox News?

00:34:20.100 I assume so.

00:34:21.060 You know, I've been told that, you know, I'm on, you know, the blacklist.

00:34:24.960 Uh, I was, uh, well, I don't know.

00:34:27.780 The last time I was on, I think it was like August.

00:34:30.540 Uh, so almost a year ago.

00:34:32.600 Oh, wow.

00:34:33.220 At the time, my father hadn't yet announced.

00:34:35.260 I think I was polling second or third myself, even with Trump in there.

00:34:40.040 It was, you know, not always.

00:34:40.900 I was like, don't show him that poll, please.

00:34:42.240 Like, I don't need to hear about that one.

00:34:45.120 We'll just keep that one quiet.

00:34:45.980 They're like, no, no, it's really good.

00:34:47.120 You're doing it.

00:34:47.460 I'm like, no, no, no.

00:34:47.880 I don't need to, you know, that's going to make Thanksgiving really awkward.

00:34:51.460 Uh, and, uh, but, you know, I was doing pretty well, even, you know, in there and, you know,

00:34:57.540 it just went dark.

00:34:58.460 And I, I assume as, as you and I probably both know, but I imagine you can talk less about,

00:35:03.300 you know, there are, there are mandates there and they make decisions and they want to control

00:35:09.120 who that person is.

00:35:10.040 And you, you saw which way they were going for quite some time.

00:35:13.020 Uh, it was a fluff fest, like I've never seen, uh, for, you know, quite a few months there.

00:35:18.720 And that seems to be transitioning a little bit away because perhaps they, uh, see the

00:35:22.580 inevitable and they read the tea leaves.

00:35:24.120 And again, they want that access to power that unfortunately is such a big part of today's

00:35:28.760 political process.

00:35:29.580 But yeah, no, I, you know, I, I have not been on, I was, I was asked to go on, uh, and

00:35:34.440 I won't even name the shows cause it doesn't matter.

00:35:36.240 And because, you know, I'm friends with some people there, they're like, Hey, can you come

00:35:38.700 on to talk about, you know, this was the Florida indictment?

00:35:42.100 Uh, like, I don't know, fine.

00:35:44.320 I'm out there, pretty big following.

00:35:46.080 I think I can probably talk better than most about my father's, uh, indictment and the abuse

00:35:52.900 of federal power.

00:35:53.880 And I'm sitting there, I call my assistant.

00:35:55.700 I'm like, Hey, like my hits in like 10 minutes and you know, the van's not here.

00:36:00.180 Oh, they just called, they canceled.

00:36:02.240 I'm like, really?

00:36:03.960 Like, like, that's fine.

00:36:05.880 But, you know, so there there's little question in my mind.

00:36:09.960 They, they, you know, one of the usual pundits that are thrown on there to talk about these

00:36:13.020 things, I imagine they probably would not do as well as me.

00:36:16.500 They certainly don't have the emotional connection.

00:36:18.440 They probably, you know, to use perhaps the, my father's, they probably wouldn't rate as

00:36:23.260 well as me on that issue, but that doesn't seem to matter.

00:36:25.920 So yeah, I, I assume if considering I was on, let's call it Fox, maybe daily, uh, or at

00:36:33.440 least act asked to be on daily pretty much every day prior to that for the last five

00:36:38.980 years to go dark for almost a year.

00:36:40.980 Uh, I imagine, uh, that isn't just coincidence.

00:36:44.080 I imagine that's there and whether that's, you know, me swiping at the rhinos like Paul 1.00

00:36:48.080 Ryan, who seemed to be pulling a lot of the strings there or otherwise, uh, you know,

00:36:51.960 that's fine.

00:36:53.200 Uh, but it, it's not a coincidence because there are no coincidence that flagrant.

00:36:57.700 As soon as your dad has it locked up, if he locks it up, they'll bend the knee.

00:37:02.120 They will.

00:37:03.020 Maybe they'll make an exception for me.

00:37:05.220 They're not going to continue with this stance.

00:37:07.360 I see exactly what you're talking about.

00:37:08.800 They've been very, very pro DeSantis.

00:37:10.500 They it's like Trump didn't exist for the past year.

00:37:13.940 And just like the first time, frankly, he overcame that blackout or that, you know, we don't

00:37:20.000 want him attitude by the owners and made himself by far the front runner.

00:37:25.640 So I think, you know, the Murdochs got on board the last time that, I mean, I can, I can definitely

00:37:30.480 speak to that one and I'm sure they will this time as well.

00:37:33.740 If he manages to, you know, to secure this when, when the voting actually begins.

00:37:37.840 Um, let's talk about Nancy Pelosi because she's looking at the other side, Don, and she's

00:37:42.860 saying, uh, don't, don't count Joe Biden out.

00:37:45.240 You know, he's polling right there with the GOP, uh, candidates like Trump, like DeSantis.

00:37:50.720 And while you may think that he he's too old and you mentioned him falling up and down

00:37:55.200 the stairs and you can't spit out two sentences, she says he's just a kid.

00:38:00.820 I think we have it.

00:38:01.580 I think the president should embrace his age, his experience, uh, what he has, the knowledge

00:38:09.500 that he brings to the job.

00:38:11.660 I couldn't be prouder of him.

00:38:13.780 And again, we're very fortunate, uh, that he is in that position.

00:38:18.620 But again, age is relative.

00:38:20.260 He's, he's younger than I am.

00:38:21.780 So I, he's a kid to me as well.

00:38:24.400 The president is.

00:38:26.720 Oh my God.

00:38:28.360 Well, listen, I think that's Nancy Pelosi desperately holding onto her youth as well.

00:38:32.280 She's no spring chicken, but you see that again, there's no consequence, uh, for the 0.98

00:38:37.540 Democrats to say this.

00:38:38.440 I mean, we, we have a president that can't get through a basic sentence.

00:38:40.980 He can't remember how to get off a stage.

00:38:42.600 I mean, it's not like it's a one-time incident and, you know, guys like me are making fun of

00:38:47.180 it on social media.

00:38:48.000 I can, without using words, get up on a stage and do like the handshake to nowhere that seems

00:38:53.200 to happen every time Joe Biden gets lost on the stage and everyone knows what's going

00:38:58.200 on.

00:38:58.960 Everyone's talking about it.

00:38:59.920 Remember, you know, Donald Trump once held a banister in a winter day on a rainy day to

00:39:04.540 go down a slippery ramp.

00:39:06.440 And we had every, you know, telepsychologist, uh, you know, oh my God, he's in the later stages

00:39:14.600 of dementia and Alzheimer's combined.

00:39:16.580 If you actually talk to an actual neurologist and you look at Joe Biden, they can diagnose

00:39:21.140 him to a T and yet that strangely won't happen.

00:39:24.040 But that's the difference, Megan.

00:39:25.880 And you know this now as well, you know, when you have the entire weight and full force of

00:39:32.040 mainstream media, and I say even conservative because they're not willing to go as far as

00:39:35.320 they need to.

00:39:35.740 That's why, you know, shows like this shows like mine, where we can actually have that

00:39:39.500 real conversation without, well, you must bend the knee to the unit party in DC and pretend

00:39:43.320 that everything's fine.

00:39:44.700 It's different when you have the full weight of big tech, you know, artificially boosted.

00:39:49.460 I mean, I'm Joe Biden's running around talking about Bidenomics and how it's working for

00:39:52.860 everyone.

00:39:53.140 Like, you know, I'm many things, but I am self-aware.

00:39:56.180 And as the son of a billionaire, okay, as a son of a billionaire, when I go and take my

00:40:01.540 kids shopping, I'm like, oh my God.

00:40:04.220 Like, if I'm experiencing sticker shock, and let's just say it's not going to matter if

00:40:09.440 groceries are a little bit more, if my gas price, you know, if gas was 15, 20 bucks,

00:40:13.720 like, it's not going to change my life that much.

00:40:15.740 But if I'm shocked at that number, what's it doing to real Americans?

00:40:19.580 I don't know a single American that's benefiting from quote unquote Bidenomics, and yet they

00:40:24.540 can run around.

00:40:25.800 Big tech will promote it as though it's real.

00:40:28.360 You know, that's another obstacle that we have to surmount because, you know, they have

00:40:32.620 trillion dollar institutions functioning as their cheerleaders, their marketing department.

00:40:38.900 You saw what they did for the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:40:41.000 Of course, it's 100% true.

00:40:42.360 But beyond the institutions of big tech and mainstream media that are giving them billions

00:40:47.060 of dollars worth of free coverage, you know, artificially boosting one side, denigrating

00:40:51.600 the other, covering up the nonsense from one side, making it up about the other, you know,

00:40:57.460 they then also have the entire weight and strength of the federal government, like the 52, you

00:41:03.000 know, intelligence officers that knew nothing about the Biden laptop, but were willing to

00:41:08.740 say that it was Russian disinformation because, you know, why not get a couple more years out

00:41:12.640 of Russia, Russia, Russia, even if it was totally disproven.

00:41:15.520 So I had the two whistleblowers on the show and they I learned from Gary Shapley that the boss

00:41:22.140 that like we knew that the FBI had the laptop in its possession back in 19 and well before it went

00:41:28.120 to the social media companies and said, beware of Russian disinformation coming on Hunter.

00:41:31.860 What I didn't and then we and then we knew also that they had verified that it was Hunter's,

00:41:36.020 but I didn't know how they had verified that.

00:41:37.560 I just assumed that they had looked at the content and done some sort of foot soldier

00:41:40.400 investigation tying it to him.

00:41:42.420 They actually had it linked almost right away from his Apple ID in the cloud right to the

00:41:49.080 laptop.

00:41:49.520 I mean, there was absolutely no doubt that it was his.

00:41:53.400 And not only did they go and, you know, do this thing with the social media companies like

00:41:57.180 beware, beware.

00:41:57.920 But Russian disinformation is coming, i.e.

00:41:59.820 the laptop, they had those, you know, the CIA, the FBI, the intelligence community work with

00:42:04.980 those 52 so-called experts who came from those from those agencies to say, we think it's Russian

00:42:11.300 disinformation.

00:42:11.820 I mean, the more you learn about it, the more disgusted you get.

00:42:15.900 Yeah.

00:42:16.140 And again, I have a feeling that if it was the Don Jr.

00:42:19.880 laptop from hell, I would not have gotten that benefit.

00:42:22.600 I would not have had anyone in the intelligence agencies come out and try to defend me.

00:42:27.340 In fact, they would do the opposite as they did.

00:42:30.120 I mean, you saw and I believe it's Adam Schiff.

00:42:32.140 But, you know, when they took the random email, it was like a spam email from some random dude

00:42:36.640 with the WikiLeaks stuff like they they took out the date.

00:42:40.480 They took out a one.

00:42:41.360 I think it was like, you know, let's call it June 14th.

00:42:43.780 So WikiLeaks, they took out the one in 14.

00:42:47.020 So it looked like I had received the WikiLeaks communications on the fourth instead of the

00:42:52.800 14th.

00:42:53.460 It came out on like the sixth.

00:42:54.980 So they tried to make it seem like I had it a week.

00:42:57.460 But then we show them the actual email.

00:42:58.460 They're like, but it's the 14th.

00:42:59.640 What are you talking about?

00:43:00.340 And again, that's like, you know, Ron DeSantis running to Jake Tapper.

00:43:03.180 Jake Tapper was the guy.

00:43:04.480 We got him now.

00:43:05.740 The walls are closing in.

00:43:07.360 Now, when it was proven that it was BS, not even a retraction.

00:43:11.320 It's still up there as though that was real.

00:43:13.540 Like it was some dude literally spammed like a few hundred, you know, Trump org email addresses

00:43:19.640 managed to get mine.

00:43:20.940 They edit the things out, you know, in the House Intelligence Committee.

00:43:24.800 And it's like, oh, we got him now because it didn't matter.

00:43:27.120 They have someone covering.

00:43:27.980 They'll have someone pretend that it's true, even if it's nonsense.

00:43:31.020 Once the nonsense comes out, they score the win.

00:43:33.240 They score the hit.

00:43:34.480 And everything else is forgotten.

00:43:36.840 Adam Schiff had lied repeatedly about having seen intelligence that we now know he did not

00:43:40.400 see.

00:43:40.760 That's why they censored him in the GOP controlled house.

00:43:43.340 Now, he's not sorry.

00:43:44.200 He says he takes their contempt as a badge of honor.

00:43:46.340 I mean, I think he would do it again.

00:43:47.680 He would do it to you all over again.

00:43:49.460 It's alarming.

00:43:50.700 Now, you mentioned the DeSantis thing again.

00:43:53.300 You know, I don't know about why shouldn't he go on CNN?

00:43:57.000 Because don't you think like your dad does very well when he has contentious interviews?

00:44:00.860 You know, like he did a CNN town hall.

00:44:03.060 I think Ron DeSantis should go on with Joy Reid, Don.

00:44:05.800 I think like the GOP candidates do well.

00:44:09.800 The Tapper thing wasn't all that combative, so maybe didn't work there.

00:44:13.000 But they do well when they are across from liberal media that hates them.

00:44:17.540 Listen, I agree.

00:44:18.520 I used to do it all the time before they sort of lost their minds.

00:44:21.040 I mean, I, you know, I had done Tapper quite a bit myself.

00:44:24.740 I'd done a lot of these shows, certainly in the 16th cycle.

00:44:28.280 You know, I think some of these people that, you know, they've lost their mind.

00:44:31.900 You saw the Joy Reid response to sort of the striking down of affirmative action.

00:44:35.140 I'm like, it's amazing.

00:44:36.760 She's almost like a conservative because I agreed with everything that she said, which was

00:44:39.460 essentially I would not have gotten into Harvard if it wasn't for affirmative action. 0.55

00:44:45.240 I'm like, well, like, isn't that, you know, yeah, like someone else would have that probably

00:44:50.160 actually deserved it.

00:44:51.160 And, you know, I'm not going to I don't think anyone who's watched Joy Reid is going to defend

00:44:55.280 her as a genius.

00:44:56.340 But, you know, she got there and was making my point.

00:44:58.540 So, you know, perhaps that's right.

00:44:59.900 I think you could go in there and dunk on all of them as we did in the past.

00:45:04.160 Who wouldn't watch your dad across from Joy Reid?

00:45:07.380 Or like even when you went on The View, it was a thing of beauty.

00:45:10.400 Oh, it was a thing of beauty.

00:45:11.380 I appreciate that.

00:45:12.320 That was one.

00:45:12.540 That was one.

00:45:12.960 That was my sister in Chapel, Megan.

00:45:14.440 That was it.

00:45:15.820 It was it was.

00:45:16.840 I have to say it was like the my favorite Don Jr.

00:45:19.380 moment ever.

00:45:20.380 If you haven't seen it, people, you know, we'll drop it in here.

00:45:23.740 I guess this is the fight you want.

00:45:25.660 It's not the fight.

00:45:26.220 It is.

00:45:26.700 But if we're talking about character, we're talking about.

00:45:28.960 Are you questioning my character?

00:45:30.440 I'm not talking about your question.

00:45:33.060 My father's character.

00:45:33.860 I'm sorry, I didn't question anybody.

00:45:36.960 I simply said that when you're talking about your father's taking more heat than anybody

00:45:44.480 else, that it's not so.

00:45:46.260 Instead, as a president.

00:45:47.860 Yes, as a president. 0.99

00:45:48.960 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:45:50.220 He's getting crushed every day. 0.99

00:45:51.760 He's a president.

00:45:53.060 I think the Central Park Five took a lot more heat than your father has taken at his hand.

00:45:56.640 By the way, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

00:45:59.500 hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.

00:46:02.220 But your dad on The View, my God, who?

00:46:06.500 I would buy a ticket to that, you know, so I do think these GOPers should get out there.

00:46:10.660 I mean, not the Asa Hutchinson.

00:46:11.700 I think that's fair.

00:46:12.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:15.160 Yeah, no, I think you're right.

00:46:16.420 I'd probably pay much better money to to watch that one.

00:46:18.860 Maybe we get Dana White to host it. 1.00

00:46:20.260 It'll be great.

00:46:21.540 All right.

00:46:21.760 So now you have, of course, the media, you know, they hate all Republicans, but the

00:46:25.640 controversy pops up in the cultural culture wars every other day.

00:46:28.680 And I saw you tweeting about it.

00:46:30.460 I it's been getting a lot of attention how Jason Aldean's latest song is being canceled.

00:46:36.520 It's been it's not being played now on CMT.

00:46:39.740 We have a little bit of it.

00:46:41.260 Let's just play a little bit of the of the song that's gotten him in trouble as allegedly

00:46:45.120 a pro lynching song.

00:46:47.700 Yes, he denies that entirely.

00:46:50.180 But here's a little bit of it.

00:46:51.300 Tuck a punch.

00:46:52.620 Oh, God.

00:46:53.620 Somebody on a sidewalk carjacking on lady at a red light.

00:46:58.920 Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store.

00:47:02.480 You think it's cool. 1.00

00:47:03.680 Act a fool. 1.00

00:47:04.700 If you like. 1.00

00:47:05.680 Cuss out a cop spitting his face. 0.98

00:47:09.500 Stomp on the flag and light it up. 0.96

00:47:12.080 Yeah, you think you're tough

00:47:15.340 Well, try that in a small town

00:47:19.440 See how far you make it down the road

00:47:23.880 Man, it goes on and talks about a gun.

00:47:28.500 So you can't talk about guns.

00:47:31.200 What do you make of it?

00:47:32.720 Listen, I think it's insane.

00:47:34.300 I think it's what we're seeing time and time again,

00:47:37.120 just capitulation to the radical left.

00:47:40.060 I mean, that song is 100% accurate.

00:47:43.840 It's against the BLM-Antifa riots.

00:47:47.660 It's 100% true that that would happen in a small town

00:47:51.060 if you messed around with that.

00:47:52.840 I wish the rest of America functioned that way.

00:47:55.120 And Jason's a friend of mine.

00:47:56.880 It's like, hey, man, anything I can do,

00:47:58.860 I sent him that DM yesterday.

00:48:00.240 I compared his lyrics to that of WAP by Cardi B.

00:48:05.560 And it's shocking that even country music television

00:48:08.680 can seemingly just disavow literally their entire audience

00:48:13.460 to kowtow to Hollywood or perhaps the music companies over there.

00:48:19.120 And we've just seen too much of that.

00:48:20.960 I mean, I think his lyrics are wholesome.

00:48:23.480 It has nothing to do with lynching.

00:48:25.480 It has nothing to do with racism.

00:48:26.900 But that's the problem, Megan.

00:48:27.960 Literally everything, everything has become racism

00:48:33.040 if you're on the left and we don't like you, right?

00:48:35.280 It's the easy button of today's radical left.

00:48:38.420 And the problem with it is, you know,

00:48:39.960 in the instances where real racism does exist,

00:48:42.740 and I think it does,

00:48:43.420 it's just not the cause of and solution for

00:48:45.820 all of life's problems as they would have you believe,

00:48:49.280 when it does happen now,

00:48:50.620 people hear it and they roll their eyes

00:48:52.200 because they hear the lyrics.

00:48:53.400 They hear the song and they're like,

00:48:54.660 give me a break.

00:48:55.940 So now when it actually happens,

00:48:57.880 they walk by like, give me a break.

00:48:59.460 I can't name something that isn't racist.

00:49:01.760 I mean, you talk about economics is racist.

00:49:04.060 Math is racist.

00:49:05.440 I read an article, I think it was yesterday,

00:49:07.400 sleep, you know, a good night's sleep

00:49:10.820 is rated, you know, based in white supremacy. 0.97

00:49:14.560 I mean, these people have lost their minds. 1.00

00:49:16.980 Like, it's ridiculous. 0.99

00:49:18.360 But the problem is, for so many, 0.50

00:49:21.860 they were so able to instill fear in the hearts of,

00:49:26.660 you know, you don't want to be called a racist.

00:49:27.780 That's the worst thing you could possibly call it.

00:49:29.660 By the way, if it's true, maybe that's right.

00:49:32.700 It's certainly close.

00:49:34.840 But they've done it so much.

00:49:36.940 They've overplayed it. 0.98

00:49:38.180 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

00:49:40.140 I mean, this is, as far as I'm concerned, 0.97

00:49:41.620 those are, that's a great song with wholesome lyrics

00:49:44.380 of a guy that really believes in America first.

00:49:47.420 And to be able to condemn the BLM riots

00:49:50.540 and Antifa riots that caused billions in damage,

00:49:53.240 burned down cities, killed people, murdered people, 0.96

00:49:57.080 guess what?

00:49:59.440 That should be accurate across America.

00:50:02.560 And certainly to the country, music set.

00:50:05.660 You know, those videos that we all saw

00:50:07.420 during the BLM riots where,

00:50:09.820 before they were riots,

00:50:10.900 they were just bothering people.

00:50:12.520 They were just harassing innocent restaurant goers

00:50:14.800 who were forced to eat out in the streets

00:50:16.320 because of COVID.

00:50:17.240 And they'd go over to the just innocent people

00:50:19.000 sitting there having a family meal

00:50:20.600 and say, like, you will raise your fist.

00:50:23.240 You will say Black Lives Matter. 0.90

00:50:24.740 You will.

00:50:25.240 Are they threatening them?

00:50:26.420 I mean, he's right.

00:50:27.540 Try that in a small town.

00:50:28.580 See how that goes for you.

00:50:29.660 A hundred percent.

00:50:30.660 They found the weakest people imaginable.

00:50:34.400 People who, you know, they're not,

00:50:35.460 maybe not even political.

00:50:36.940 You must bow and kiss our feet.

00:50:39.800 Like, and they capitulated

00:50:41.220 because they've been scared into this.

00:50:42.860 And again, that's been artificially boosted

00:50:45.160 and, you know, frankly promoted by big tech

00:50:47.480 and mainstream media and social media

00:50:49.440 and all of these entities.

00:50:51.020 Like, he's right.

00:50:52.420 Try that in a small town.

00:50:53.460 By the way, you shouldn't be able

00:50:54.520 to get away with that in any town.

00:50:56.300 But, you know, the cities have given up entirely

00:50:58.380 and totally capitulated to the insanity

00:51:00.780 of the radical left.

00:51:01.780 So I hope that's, you know,

00:51:04.680 a call to people to understand,

00:51:05.900 like, you don't have to just give in

00:51:07.280 because they'd like you to.

00:51:08.120 You don't have to just roll over and die

00:51:09.520 because they'd like you to.

00:51:10.940 Right.

00:51:11.560 I mean, they try to say,

00:51:13.360 don't watch Sound of Freedom

00:51:14.060 because it's a cute movie

00:51:15.260 and it just made $100 million

00:51:16.440 at the box office

00:51:17.400 after costing $14 million.

00:51:19.920 One other word on this.

00:51:21.060 That was perhaps the first insanity that I saw.

00:51:23.500 So Tim Ballard,

00:51:24.400 who's the subject matter of the movie,

00:51:26.580 like I met him in like 2015, 2016.

00:51:29.500 And, you know, I wasn't allowed to get political

00:51:31.760 or get involved with the White House.

00:51:32.760 I made two calls, though.

00:51:33.640 One was about the pebble mine

00:51:34.820 that's sort of been out there.

00:51:36.060 The other was I had met Tim Ballard.

00:51:37.540 I was like, you guys should really talk to this

00:51:39.020 because you understand that there's a problem

00:51:40.400 with child sex trafficking,

00:51:41.940 but I don't think anyone understands the scope.

00:51:44.800 And so I sort of made the introductions,

00:51:46.760 then I get out of it.

00:51:47.620 And, you know, eventually they actually have Tim Ballard

00:51:49.700 down to the White House.

00:51:50.620 They set up a council.

00:51:51.480 And for the first time in an administration,

00:51:52.720 they actually put real money behind it,

00:51:54.400 like $300 million to, like, look into the issue

00:51:57.380 to try to combat it.

00:51:58.780 And I was like, this is great.

00:51:59.820 Like, this should, this is a hundred.

00:52:01.460 It's not even a political issue.

00:52:02.460 It should just be something that 100% of people

00:52:05.200 across the world agree on.

00:52:07.320 And the left lost their minds.

00:52:09.940 You know, this movie was actually made five years ago.

00:52:11.880 The people praising it.

00:52:13.320 Your dad, I don't have to remind you.

00:52:15.400 The people praising it then are deriding it today.

00:52:17.440 Your dad signed the Anti-Sex Trafficking Act.

00:52:21.200 He got a standing ovation at the State of the Union

00:52:23.840 for doing that.

00:52:24.440 And the left was against it.

00:52:25.080 And AOC sat there like this.

00:52:28.380 Arms crossed.

00:52:28.940 Are you pro-sex trafficking?

00:52:30.780 Like, what is it?

00:52:31.720 Is that was a bridge too far for you?

00:52:34.120 It's insane.

00:52:35.000 But again, it shows you just how far we fall.

00:52:37.120 Now, we could get much further into sort of,

00:52:39.580 you know, I know you're not allowed to say grooming

00:52:41.000 and you're not allowed to do this.

00:52:42.180 And yet they say, you know,

00:52:43.540 essentially pornographic material in elementary schools.

00:52:46.640 You're banning books.

00:52:47.680 You're banning books, Megan,

00:52:48.840 if you don't want a three-year-old to see graphic details

00:52:50.900 about, you know, various, let's call it unconventional sex.

00:52:55.260 But, like, that's not banning books.

00:52:57.660 Like, no one's banning the book.

00:52:58.940 Just don't show it to three-year-olds.

00:53:00.360 Like, the people when they're canceling, you know,

00:53:02.700 the drag queen story hour.

00:53:03.860 I have five kids.

00:53:05.040 I've been to quite a few story hours.

00:53:06.920 But, like, story hour was never, like,

00:53:09.240 the biggest thing in the world.

00:53:10.840 How did it get commandeered by drag queens? 1.00

00:53:14.120 How did they own story hour that it became this big?

00:53:17.420 You're telling me that wasn't some sort of setup?

00:53:19.920 Like, I don't believe that, you know,

00:53:22.700 there's coincidence anymore.

00:53:23.960 Certainly not when it's there.

00:53:24.960 When you have explicit sexual graphic detail

00:53:27.840 going on at a parade and say,

00:53:29.240 well, we're just doing it for freedom.

00:53:30.880 Okay, well, we're just not allowing kids to be there.

00:53:32.800 And in that case, we're going home.

00:53:35.240 Like, well, but I thought it wasn't about, like,

00:53:37.160 sexualizing our kids.

00:53:37.900 I thought it wasn't about, like,

00:53:39.040 it had nothing to do with kids.

00:53:39.980 But if the kids can't be present,

00:53:41.580 you're just not going to do it?

00:53:42.740 Like, come on, man.

00:53:44.620 Yeah, what does that tell us?

00:53:45.520 It's gone insane.

00:53:46.400 And then, like I said,

00:53:47.080 the reaction to that at the time

00:53:49.220 was when I was like,

00:53:50.260 and listen, I'm from New York City, right?

00:53:51.800 My friends, I imagine growing up,

00:53:53.780 most of my friends were probably

00:53:54.700 on the other side of the aisle,

00:53:55.700 and we could have that conversation

00:53:56.980 and you could have a dialogue

00:53:58.240 and you could have discourse.

00:53:59.940 Like, if you can't get behind

00:54:02.460 combating child sex trafficking

00:54:05.760 and they want to lower ages of consent

00:54:08.380 and if you don't let your child

00:54:10.040 at three years old decide

00:54:11.020 to change their gender 0.91

00:54:11.920 and go through permanent,

00:54:12.820 life-altering, gender-affirming care,

00:54:14.640 we're going to take your children from you, 1.00

00:54:17.340 as was voted on 100% by the Democrats

00:54:19.920 in the Washington State Legislature,

00:54:21.440 I believe it was.

00:54:22.120 That's right.

00:54:23.340 What is happening in our country?

00:54:24.860 Like, you know, that's controversial.

00:54:26.540 And there's a bill in California, too.

00:54:27.740 There's a similar bill in California right now.

00:54:29.500 They have the,

00:54:30.380 I guess it was Wisconsin that did the bill.

00:54:33.520 You can't discriminate in the workforce 0.99

00:54:35.740 against pedophiles,

00:54:37.800 meaning, you know, not race, religion,

00:54:39.780 but if someone's a pedophile, 0.69

00:54:41.000 they're, you know, or, sorry,

00:54:42.100 I want to use the correct vernacular,

00:54:44.640 a MAP, a minor attracted person.

00:54:47.760 Oh, no.

00:54:48.360 You know, if you're in a preschool,

00:54:49.740 you can't discriminate against hiring

00:54:51.400 someone that wants to sleep

00:54:53.680 with your children's students.

00:54:55.420 Like, that's, hey, you know what?

00:54:59.100 Maybe that makes me old-fashioned,

00:55:00.740 but that's a bridge too far for me,

00:55:01.920 and it's never going to happen

00:55:02.920 where I'm silenced about this issue,

00:55:04.680 so I'm going to fight for it.

00:55:08.540 Let me ask you about your dad in this,

00:55:10.100 because this is something I've been saying

00:55:10.920 on the show for a while.

00:55:11.680 He's been, the DeSantis camp has been

00:55:13.740 kind of trying to get to the right of your dad

00:55:15.860 on some of these culture war issues,

00:55:17.660 and in particular, the trans thing.

00:55:19.680 You know, his supporters, not he,

00:55:21.140 but his supporters put out that ad

00:55:22.600 showing him as more of a warrior

00:55:24.660 on the trans issue,

00:55:26.500 and they ran clips of your dad

00:55:27.980 back in 15 saying,

00:55:29.940 I would let Caitlyn Jenner

00:55:30.880 use the restaurant at Trump Tower

00:55:32.160 and, not the restaurant,

00:55:33.940 the restroom, the women's restroom, 1.00

00:55:35.660 and similar statements.

00:55:37.220 And I've been saying all along, Don,

00:55:38.540 I don't, I'm definitely supportive

00:55:40.920 of where Ron DeSantis stands on this issue,

00:55:43.660 fighting this and keeping men

00:55:44.880 out of women's spaces,

00:55:45.820 but that I am open-minded

00:55:48.440 to where your dad is on this now,

00:55:50.440 because a lot's changed since 2015.

00:55:53.860 You know, we're seven years into this,

00:55:56.160 and the madness has exploded in a way

00:55:58.380 I know I did not anticipate,

00:56:00.460 and I imagine he did not anticipate either,

00:56:02.500 but you tell me,

00:56:04.240 where does your dad stand

00:56:05.460 on the subject of women's spaces

00:56:07.820 remaining for women 0.67

00:56:08.620 and women's sports remaining for women 0.61

00:56:10.480 in the trans issue?

00:56:11.780 Listen, I think it's, you know,

00:56:13.120 been quite clear on it.

00:56:14.220 I know I have.

00:56:15.020 The women's sports thing.

00:56:16.080 I mean, go back and look at

00:56:17.060 what I've been talking about for years.

00:56:19.640 You know, way before,

00:56:20.720 certainly way before Ron DeSantis

00:56:22.540 has been doing it.

00:56:23.100 As a father of, you know,

00:56:24.820 young girls that,

00:56:26.420 one of them is an incredible athlete,

00:56:28.220 I've been very vocal about it,

00:56:29.600 and I think that's where

00:56:30.160 the populace actually is.

00:56:31.260 It's interesting.

00:56:32.380 Even, you know, in Twitter,

00:56:34.300 even a year ago,

00:56:35.160 before any transition or any change,

00:56:36.800 when, you know,

00:56:37.200 I was getting crushed and censored,

00:56:38.300 I could put up the,

00:56:39.420 hey, stop competing against the girls. 0.99

00:56:42.440 I mean, look at everything

00:56:44.580 I've said about Leah Thomas

00:56:45.600 over the last 18 months

00:56:46.720 since, you know,

00:56:48.380 she became a world-class female swimmer.

00:56:50.940 It was miraculous.

00:56:51.620 It happened overnight.

00:56:52.660 Megan, one of the incredible,

00:56:54.400 you know, just, you know,

00:56:56.360 the athleticism just sprouted amazingly.

00:56:59.360 That was my alma mater.

00:57:01.280 You know, and I've been out there saying,

00:57:02.580 you know, hey, 20 years ago

00:57:03.800 when I graduated

00:57:04.660 the University of Pennsylvania,

00:57:05.800 like, we would have shown up

00:57:06.740 to the swim meets with a keg 0.99

00:57:07.860 and had a good old laugh

00:57:11.260 at the insanity of what's going on.

00:57:13.420 I think my father's been very clear.

00:57:15.580 Get the hell away from our children.

00:57:17.800 Now, I've even said this.

00:57:18.880 I've gotten in trouble

00:57:19.460 because they're trying to,

00:57:20.340 if you're a 45-year-old dude

00:57:21.900 and you want to identify as a woman,

00:57:23.640 honestly, I could care less.

00:57:25.340 I don't want to pay for it.

00:57:26.660 I don't want to hear about it. 0.99

00:57:28.180 Stay the fuck away from our kids. 1.00

00:57:30.480 But, you know, there's an element. 0.99

00:57:32.920 It's just like, dude, you know,

00:57:34.880 I don't want to control

00:57:35.880 what someone does.

00:57:36.680 There's a libertarian streak in me

00:57:38.080 and that, but, but again,

00:57:39.960 I don't want to have to be forced

00:57:41.620 to listen to your pronouns

00:57:43.640 and pretend that I believe,

00:57:45.460 you know, that you are,

00:57:47.220 you know, a fairy godmother

00:57:49.760 that, you know, that's not

00:57:50.840 whatever you decide to be,

00:57:52.560 the ever-changing pronouns.

00:57:54.340 I certainly am not going to accept

00:57:56.220 that if I misgender you

00:57:58.340 because you have a beard,

00:58:00.100 that, you know,

00:58:01.900 I should be punished criminally.

00:58:03.680 And it's an act,

00:58:04.860 a literal act of violence, Megan, 1.00

00:58:06.680 the bullshit that we've seen 1.00

00:58:08.600 come out of these people 1.00

00:58:10.380 is, is ridiculous. 0.99

00:58:12.020 So again, and again, 0.99

00:58:14.260 far before, you know,

00:58:15.900 but Ron DeSantis is like, 0.89

00:58:16.780 hey, you can't be gay. 0.99

00:58:17.800 Hey, ask some of Ron DeSantis' 0.99

00:58:19.220 gay influencers 0.83

00:58:19.920 what they think about Ron DeSantis 0.79

00:58:21.500 and what they would do

00:58:22.460 to the way they're living right now.

00:58:23.340 I did that last week.

00:58:24.740 I know I did that last week.

00:58:25.820 I apologize.

00:58:26.460 But like, it's sort of like,

00:58:27.980 he's trying too hard.

00:58:29.580 And again, because he doesn't

00:58:30.280 have that person.

00:58:30.920 So he's got a team

00:58:31.560 that's trying to,

00:58:32.620 we're going to outflank Trump

00:58:33.760 on this and we're,

00:58:34.560 you know, let's,

00:58:36.000 so again,

00:58:36.800 you're a grown person.

00:58:38.220 I don't really care.

00:58:39.060 It's not my thing.

00:58:39.660 But again,

00:58:40.100 you're not going to bully me

00:58:41.240 into pretending

00:58:41.920 that your delusion is real.

00:58:44.440 And I can be friendly with you.

00:58:45.580 It doesn't even make a difference,

00:58:46.460 right?

00:58:46.920 I grew up in New York.

00:58:48.260 I have plenty of,

00:58:49.140 you know,

00:58:49.420 gay friends.

00:58:50.140 I, it makes, 0.90

00:58:51.340 that doesn't matter.

00:58:52.380 But you start going

00:58:54.000 after our children.

00:58:55.100 You start trying to encourage 0.92

00:58:56.600 them to mutilate their bodies.

00:58:58.240 You jack them up on meds,

00:59:01.480 convince them of something,

00:59:02.880 allow them to tell parents

00:59:05.140 that they can't even be involved

00:59:06.500 in the process, 0.98

00:59:07.460 have some lunatic teacher, 0.98

00:59:09.820 okay, 0.99

00:59:10.840 manipulate,

00:59:12.800 I mean,

00:59:13.360 not even arguably,

00:59:14.380 the most impressionable minds

00:59:16.380 in society,

00:59:17.320 young minds,

00:59:17.880 easily influenced,

00:59:19.340 and try that indoctrination process

00:59:21.340 over my dead body.

00:59:23.920 Okay?

00:59:24.100 And again,

00:59:24.780 all you have to do

00:59:25.800 is look to anything I've said

00:59:27.300 for,

00:59:28.320 I don't know,

00:59:29.060 since I've been in politics,

00:59:30.160 like way before other people

00:59:31.380 even got on this trend.

00:59:32.440 And like I was saying about Twitter,

00:59:33.980 the one thing where I know

00:59:35.120 the populace is actually with us,

00:59:36.860 that's the difference between

00:59:37.820 sort of the media creation

00:59:40.060 and,

00:59:40.520 you know,

00:59:40.860 Los Angeles speak,

00:59:42.360 is even on Twitter,

00:59:44.120 where it's like,

00:59:44.640 let's call it a 95-5 audience

00:59:46.800 of people that hate my guts,

00:59:48.900 certainly an old Twitter,

00:59:50.020 even worse.

00:59:50.680 It's a nice place.

00:59:51.600 Yeah.

00:59:52.000 They sit there.

00:59:52.600 I'll put up the trans women 1.00

00:59:53.980 in sports things.

00:59:54.600 It was one of my first issues.

00:59:56.100 Like, 0.99

00:59:56.520 no fucking way. 0.99

00:59:57.320 And I have people. 0.99

00:59:59.000 Oh my God, 0.99

01:00:00.020 I hate your guts, 0.99

01:00:01.280 Don Jr. 1.00

01:00:01.840 I think you're the biggest piece 1.00

01:00:02.940 of shit in the world. 1.00

01:00:03.940 And yet, 1.00

01:00:05.240 and yet,

01:00:05.960 on that,

01:00:06.620 I'm with you on this one.

01:00:08.080 They're like,

01:00:08.380 literally,

01:00:09.200 the most common comedy is,

01:00:11.020 I can't believe

01:00:12.980 I'm with him on this one.

01:00:14.500 I can't.

01:00:14.920 No,

01:00:15.120 I think you're right.

01:00:16.160 And I think like this is,

01:00:17.660 hopefully I'll talk to your dad,

01:00:19.140 you know,

01:00:19.380 one-on-one soon.

01:00:20.040 But I really think that

01:00:21.280 the smart place

01:00:22.540 for everyone

01:00:23.180 in the Republican field

01:00:24.060 is a man cannot become a woman.

01:00:26.620 Sorry,

01:00:27.180 empathy,

01:00:27.760 but no,

01:00:28.400 we're not changing policy for you

01:00:29.600 and you're certainly not going

01:00:30.360 to the women's spaces.

01:00:31.180 And I think that actually

01:00:32.480 will attract,

01:00:33.300 you know,

01:00:33.800 people on the left

01:00:34.580 who,

01:00:34.940 for whom,

01:00:35.340 like me,

01:00:35.680 this is becoming

01:00:36.320 almost a single voter issue.

01:00:38.600 But in any event,

01:00:39.120 he doesn't need me

01:00:39.660 for political advice.

01:00:40.940 That's obvious.

01:00:42.360 Don Trump Jr.

01:00:42.880 I actually have a question for you

01:00:44.280 because as a mother,

01:00:45.460 because I see it like

01:00:46.560 with young kids.

01:00:47.520 And again,

01:00:47.760 I'm out there,

01:00:48.340 I'm vocal,

01:00:48.780 I'm sort of,

01:00:49.260 you know,

01:00:49.480 unafraid to speak my mind.

01:00:51.080 But,

01:00:51.620 you know,

01:00:51.780 where are the soccer moms, 1.00

01:00:53.240 Megan?

01:00:53.920 You know,

01:00:54.320 where are the,

01:00:55.160 you know,

01:00:55.480 hey,

01:00:55.720 trust me,

01:00:56.000 I've done the kid,

01:00:56.740 like,

01:00:56.960 you know,

01:00:57.140 triple header of T-ball 0.97

01:00:58.060 where I want to shoot myself

01:00:59.000 after nine hours 0.91

01:01:00.220 being on a field

01:01:00.800 watching these kids.

01:01:01.540 Where are the soccer moms 1.00

01:01:02.640 being like,

01:01:03.300 wait a minute,

01:01:03.660 some dude just decided

01:01:04.520 to become a girl

01:01:05.440 and they,

01:01:05.840 you know,

01:01:05.980 you see it,

01:01:06.400 they take the track scholarship.

01:01:08.040 It only goes one way,

01:01:08.860 by the way,

01:01:09.220 right?

01:01:10.020 You know,

01:01:10.560 the weightlifting champion

01:01:11.560 is a female 0.99

01:01:12.180 that happened to be a male

01:01:13.100 about three days ago.

01:01:15.380 Where are those people?

01:01:17.000 Because,

01:01:17.340 you know,

01:01:17.460 and again,

01:01:18.120 maybe it's not so prolific

01:01:19.640 that it's happening

01:01:20.380 in every neighborhood,

01:01:21.160 but you don't think

01:01:22.300 that people are going

01:01:22.940 to game this system.

01:01:24.020 As I said earlier,

01:01:24.700 you know,

01:01:24.840 if you're trans,

01:01:25.320 you're the most privileged

01:01:26.060 class in society today.

01:01:27.220 You can do no wrong.

01:01:28.700 You are beyond reproach.

01:01:30.220 Whatever you say goes,

01:01:31.500 it can change at any minute

01:01:32.720 to change to any nuance.

01:01:33.920 And if you contest that

01:01:34.960 you're a racist, 0.99

01:01:36.080 bigot, 1.00

01:01:36.380 homophobe, 0.98

01:01:36.900 whatever.

01:01:37.900 Oh,

01:01:38.340 yeah.

01:01:38.860 I think the soccer moms 0.58

01:01:40.400 have been afraid.

01:01:41.220 They've been afraid.

01:01:42.300 As you well know,

01:01:43.440 you know,

01:01:43.720 they'll for the past

01:01:44.820 several years,

01:01:45.720 they'll they'll just

01:01:46.500 they'll cut you

01:01:47.380 if you speak out on this.

01:01:48.540 But I think they're

01:01:49.360 they're starting to find

01:01:50.480 their voices

01:01:50.920 because it's just

01:01:51.740 gotten so insane.

01:01:52.720 And once you come

01:01:53.360 for the children,

01:01:54.380 the mama bears will speak up.

01:01:55.640 So I I have hope

01:01:57.260 for the future on this

01:01:58.220 because,

01:01:58.500 you know,

01:01:58.780 I watch this closely

01:01:59.820 and I'm seeing more

01:02:00.940 and more moms speak out.

01:02:02.480 It's why Moms for Liberty 1.00

01:02:03.660 has become such

01:02:04.920 a lightning rod

01:02:05.660 because they're speaking

01:02:06.560 out about organized

01:02:07.520 and they're running

01:02:08.420 for school boards

01:02:09.140 and the left

01:02:09.720 is very threatened by them.

01:02:11.380 So I feel like

01:02:12.480 we're going to have

01:02:13.320 a very different conversation

01:02:14.200 in three years.

01:02:15.220 Yeah,

01:02:15.400 I hope so,

01:02:16.220 because I did not have

01:02:17.320 Donald Trump Jr.

01:02:19.380 man,

01:02:19.940 feminist

01:02:20.360 in my bingo card

01:02:21.760 for the last few decades

01:02:24.560 that it just wasn't

01:02:25.740 that was not

01:02:26.580 where I thought I'd be.

01:02:28.020 And yet I feel like

01:02:28.900 I'm one of the few people

01:02:29.860 actually fighting

01:02:30.960 this issue

01:02:32.000 for the benefit of women.

01:02:33.280 Like, hey, listen,

01:02:34.300 I'm not above it.

01:02:35.680 I'm happy to get in the mix,

01:02:36.840 but it's like,

01:02:37.240 come on, ladies, 1.00

01:02:37.840 give me a hand here.

01:02:38.780 Help me out.

01:02:40.280 Right.

01:02:40.760 All right.

01:02:41.060 You'll do it and I'll do it.

01:02:42.140 And I'm sure my pal KG

01:02:43.360 will do it.

01:02:44.400 And bit by bit,

01:02:45.380 we're going to change

01:02:45.960 the public sentiment on this.

01:02:47.020 It's already going our way.

01:02:48.480 Donald Trump Jr.

01:02:49.000 So fun talking to you again.

01:02:50.180 Please come back.

01:02:51.500 I'll do that.

01:02:51.940 Thanks, Megan.

01:02:52.500 Great being with you.

01:02:53.120 It's great to see you.

01:02:53.900 We'll have to do it again, Megan.

01:02:54.940 Thanks a lot.

01:02:55.980 You're on.

01:02:56.560 All the best.

01:02:57.340 And thanks to all of you,

01:02:58.340 too, for joining us today

01:02:59.240 and all week.

01:02:59.900 It's been a busy one, right?

01:03:01.040 From the IRS whistleblowers

01:03:02.740 to Helen Joyce.

01:03:04.320 Loved that.

01:03:05.020 If you if you missed Helen Joyce,

01:03:06.100 you've got to go back

01:03:06.580 and listen to that

01:03:07.020 when you have time.

01:03:08.200 Brilliant woman 1.00

01:03:08.860 to news of the potential

01:03:10.700 next indictment

01:03:11.780 and arrest of Donald Trump.

01:03:13.360 It's just becoming absurd now.

01:03:15.840 On Monday,

01:03:16.440 the EJs are back with us. 0.99

01:03:18.300 Emily Jashinsky

01:03:19.060 and Eliana Johnson.

01:03:21.340 And don't forget

01:03:22.100 that next week

01:03:23.400 I'll be heading down to Florida

01:03:24.400 for a sit down

01:03:26.060 with Governor Ron DeSantis

01:03:27.720 and we'll get his thoughts

01:03:28.880 on some of these issues

01:03:29.680 that Don and I discussed today.

01:03:31.860 In the meantime,

01:03:32.700 have a great weekend.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - July 21, 2023

Donald Trump, Jr. on Another Potential Indictment for His Dad, Attacks on Aldean, and Liberal Hypocrisy ｜ Ep. 592

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