Donald Trump, Jr. on Another Potential Indictment for His Dad, Attacks on Aldean, and Liberal Hypocrisy ｜ Ep. 592
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Summary
Trump Jr. joins Megynkelly to discuss the latest in the ongoing investigation into his father, Donald Trump Sr. This week, the former president of the United States of America was informed that he is the target of yet another criminal investigation, and is likely to be indicted soon.
Transcript
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.
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Today, a first-time guest is here with us and we have a ton to get to with him.
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This week, his father, the former president of the United States of America,
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was informed that he is the target of yet another criminal investigation.
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And it comes as former President Trump maintains a massive lead over his GOP opponents for the 2024 nomination.
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Joining me now, Donald Trump Jr., executive vice president of the Trump Organization
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and host of Rumbles, Triggered with Donald Trump Jr.
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It's good to be back with you, Megyn. It's been a while.
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I know. It's been a long time and what a week to reunite. My God.
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No, we will not be hurting for content. I'm I have to say, I'm really I know you are,
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but I'm really alarmed about what's happening with Jack Smith in this country.
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And I thought your dad captured it perfectly when he called attention to this.
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This one issue that shows how political what Jack Smith is doing is when he was on with Hannity the other night.
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It bothers me. It bothers me for everybody in this incredible sold out audience.
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And it's it bothers you. I got the letter on Sunday night. Think of it.
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I don't think they've ever sent a letter on Sunday night and they're in a rush because they want to interfere.
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It's interference with the election. It's election interference.
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It's never been done like this in the history of our country. And it's a disgrace.
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So that's exactly right, because there's no reason to rush a letter like the one Jack Smith said,
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sent your dad on a Sunday night delivery, unless you as the prosecutor are worried about getting your trial started,
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getting your trial date, making sure it happens before Fannie Willis down in Georgia.
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You've got your cue in the election lineup before he runs for office.
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It really is a tell that he said in that letter on Sunday night. What do you make of it?
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A hundred percent. I mean, they're going to try to do anything to stop Trump.
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This talking point that it's no, they really want to run against Trump.
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They want to do the insurrection thing like they use from the Civil War days to prevent him from ever being on the ballot.
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But, Megan, honestly, like at this point, I'm almost used to it.
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We've seen this show before, but what's perhaps even more troubling, even though it's perhaps less personal to me,
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but it is personal to me as an American, was what we saw this week with the 16 indictments in Michigan,
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where a radical leftist attorney general is going after people who did what John F.
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Kennedy did in 1960 and wanted to submit an alternate ballot set.
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This is what they're doing. I don't know in any other time, maybe other than the Japanese internment camps during World War II,
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where we seem to have and trying to create a class of political prisoners.
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You see that with the treatment and the disparity of the treatment of the BLM, you know,
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Summer of Love rioters versus the January 6th folks.
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When the exculpatory evidence comes out, they pretend like it's there.
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They hid that from the prosecution. They hid that from the defense.
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Meanwhile, you could do murder, arson, rioting, looting, billions in damage, taking over cities, taking over courthouses.
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You know, all these things that I was told was insurrection.
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If you do that in the supposed name of social justice, it's all well and good.
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Not only are they trying to go after their biggest political rival, stuff that if it was going on in third world countries,
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even the Uniparty in Washington, D.C., they'd be going into another war looking for regime change.
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And the people who are willing to call it out, they want to throw in jail.
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I mean, this is not I like to get out there and rant and talk about these things and make fun of it.
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This is something you can't even make fun of anymore because they're not even pretending to be decent anymore.
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They're not even pretending to not weaponize these things.
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And, you know, we could talk for hours about just look at the disparate treatment between what they tried to do to me with the fake Russia, Russia, Russia hoax and what Hunter Biden gets to do for a decade.
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But, you know, I have a feeling it'd be treated differently, Megan.
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No, the cases are scary because while politically I think they're helpful to your father's run, his candidacy, legally, they there's risk for sure.
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And given your dad's age, it actually could be a life sentence if this guy Jack Smith manages to get him in front of a D.C. jury in particular.
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It's just that if he can if he can get past, you know, motion practice and get it in front of a D.C. jury, they went, what, 97 percent for Joe Biden in D.C.?
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I mean, yeah, I don't think it's going to be fair.
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And by the way, that doesn't include, you know, what have we racked up to the charges even prior to the Jack's, the other Jack Smith stuff, you know, 450 years.
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No one's going to ever accuse him of being low energy.
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I'm not sure anyone, not even Donald Trump can wait that one out.
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But you've got in the back of your mind be concerned.
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I mean, honestly, it's it's crazy to say it because it's almost hard to believe.
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And I think unless you've sort of been in that.
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You remember well, I think I spoke with you back in the Fox News days about it at the time.
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And my lawyers, you can't go on TV and defend yourself.
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They're trying you for treason, a crime punishable by death.
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And, you know, these weren't like clowns in the media.
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But this was like the head of the Intelligence Committee saying this daily, publicly.
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But, you know, after a while, though, and again, it's hard to sort of rationalize because I
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understand that it's not a normal human emotional response.
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But when you've been sort of backed in that corner for seven, six, seven years now, when
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you've been prodded endlessly, you know, it's fight or flight.
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It's like, oh, like I said earlier, another day, another indictment.
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But what they want is they want you to crawl into a corner and die.
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They want you to get in the fetal position and suck your thumb and cry for mama.
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If you do that, they're not going to go any less on you.
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That's just the first sign that they've got you.
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And I think all of America has to do the same because everything that you hold near and dear,
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everything that we value, our freedoms, our basic rights, they're all on the table for
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And again, Megan, the people that I've listened, you know, screeching about democracy for the
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last six or seven years when, you know, we had a booming economy, when we were ending
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wars, when we were energy independent, all of the things that we, you know, those people
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And that's what it is, because otherwise they'd be pretty vocal about this, because
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they have been when the same has been done in the banana republics around the world.
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And I imagine we were there quite some time ago, but it took Trump to bring it out.
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You know, you see, we have a commander in chief that, you know, a challenging thing is
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like walking up a flight of stairs and it's totally normal.
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You know, it's it's lunacy, but we're living it.
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It's these are very dark days and they're they're rushing to get their indictments in
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so that they can make sure he faces a jury before the election.
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And yet that doesn't mean that they won't prevail in front of these juries in particular.
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Can I ask you quickly, how's he doing on the law front, on the legal, the lawyer front?
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Because there was a B.S. period where he struggled to get the top notch talent because of the I think
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the Alan Dershowitz effect where Dershowitz, who defended Bill Clinton in his impeachment
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proceeding, then defended your dad because he defends the Constitution.
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It's not he's open that he doesn't vote for your dad, but he's a Democrat.
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So there was this sort of cascade of lawyers who were like, I don't I don't want to get the
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Alan Dershowitz treatment where I can't get clients or I get smeared or I can't get a seat
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So is that turning now that Trump's up 30 points in the polls and, you know,
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I mean, I think, you know, I'm actually very happy with the legal team right now.
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There are people in these firms who still believe in the Constitution, but they understand
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that if they do that, you know, their other clients will disappear.
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The D.C. lobbyist crowd will stop using them to do that work.
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They're not even if they believe in the cause, they're not going to take or risk the political
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capital of even being associated with even if it's sort of like a dream case for a constitutional
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And so, you know, no different than cancel culture everywhere else.
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There's a there's a very palpable attempt to to prevent you from, you know, you got to
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be I guess Trump's going to have to use a public defender type of thing, because even
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if you want to, even if you're going to pay for the best talent, they're not going to
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touch it, not because they don't believe in it, not because they wouldn't want to, but
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because they know it's the end of their career.
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It's sort of like the people in medicine who were like, you know what?
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Did we ever think maybe the Wuhan virus came from the lab in Wuhan that studies the exact
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Like, when was that ever not the most plausible answer?
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And yet it didn't matter if you as a medical professional did that, you were out of academia,
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The NIH would cut off any funding for any other unrelated project.
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You must be obedient sheep and do whatever the board is telling you to do.
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And so, you know, it's no different in some of this and, you know, just yet another thing
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that's been weaponized against anyone who's willing to challenge the norms of the swamp.
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We just did a story the other day on how the endocrinologists of America have behind the
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scenes serious reservations about what they're doing to children in the name of, quote, gender
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But they've been going along with it because they're worried because their society, the American
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Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics says, oh, that's the best standard.
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But they know it's not true, but they're afraid.
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I mean, the trans mafia, as I refer to them as, you know, it's I'd say it's the most powerful
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If you're trans, you're in the most privileged class in society.
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I've never seen like such a small demographic be able to command and hold so much power based
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Now, you're not allowed to talk about recidivism rates.
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You're not allowed to talk about the depression and the people that later on come to believe
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that, you know, shockingly, shockingly, they were influenced into making a bad decision
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Now they are permanently, you know, they've damaged their bodies.
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They can't go back there on these crazy drug cocktails for the rest of their lives.
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And shockingly, they're depressed and they'd love to go back.
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But they have they have no way to go after the doctors who did this.
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You know, the rainbow haired colored freak teachers that convinced them at the age of
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three that they really, you know, I wanted to be an airplane when I was a child.
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You know, there is a difference between, you know, allowing that and an insanity.
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But we're at the point where the insane are totally controlling what's going on.
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And we have to say one of the famous one of the famous lines on this show came from Rick
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Grinnell, who worked for your dad and, you know, the country and is a supporter of your
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dad's and said, you can't vote for these people.
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I said, you know, that is like the best summation of the insanity going on in our country
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How can you vote for somebody who can't even define what a woman is?
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But wait, let me table the gender thing, because I want to finish up on Jack Smith.
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Unlike your father, he's getting very, very fawning press coverage.
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But I don't think I've seen anything so fawning as what was on CNN the other day when they covered
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him getting a sandwich from Subway like it was the Queen's Jubilee.
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Here's just a bit of them talking about that moment.
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Turns out even Jack Smith can't resist a $5 footlong.
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That's according to what we see right there, new and exclusive CNN video of the special
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Declining, though, to respond to reporters' questions about today's big news, a target
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letter sent to the former president of the United States.
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They clearly wanted us to see him and that image to be very different from what we saw
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in the former president's post, which is that he's a deranged individual.
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Yeah, I mean, look, you can I can count probably five or six sandwich shops between his office
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and that location that he was he was at earlier today.
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He was he stood in line just like everybody else.
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Yes, but no, I mean, you can see how it's set up, right, because they're trying to do
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anything to take away from Jack Smith's actually rather corrupt history.
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I mean, you know, I understand that him getting a sandwich is really big news, Megan, but strangely
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enough, they don't talk about the things that would be, let's just say, you know, almost
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There's a reason he was handpicked to do this, because if you look at his record, it should
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be pretty clear to anyone who's going to even pretend to be objective that this is just
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This is someone willing to do anything, someone who's clearly willing to not even follow the
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basic norms of our justice system to get what he wants.
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They want someone, and it doesn't matter how they get there, but the ends will always
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That's apparent, because I've not seen a single story about whether it's him, whether
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it's the prosecutor in Florida, their, let's just say, rather shady past.
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If you're, you know, a Strzok, a McCabe, a Brennan, you can lie before Congress, Megan.
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You know, when they did, when I did 50 hours plus of testimony, you know, looking for me
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to put a comma in the wrong spot, I'd have been in jail for perjury.
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You can actually perjure yourself before Congress if you're a Democrat trying to get to those
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And not only do you not get fired, not only do you not lose your pensions, you get to
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And you can lecture the country on moral decency.
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I mean, I know every day I feel like the Truman show, Megan, I'm waiting for like, you know,
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someone to like the camera to fall out of the ceiling.
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Be like, we've just been messing with you this whole time because there's no way this
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First of all, can I just say just an observation?
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I know you've heard this many times, but your gestures are so much like your dad's.
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We did a show on this when it came to twins and triplets.
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So that's why you'll see identical twins who have like the same exact and, you know,
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You know, there's my hobbies are so different than my father's and we're, we actually used
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I think it was actually politics and not business that we realized maybe we're actually a lot
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And it was whether it's interesting, you know, perhaps the demeanor, perhaps the fight and
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certainly the hand gestures that just weren't as, uh, as prevalent, you know, giving a PowerPoint
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You know, Ivanka is always going to be the little girl.
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I, you know, I'm totally comfortable being that.
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It's, uh, it was the calls even during the presidency, you know, uh, Don, this is the
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I'm like, well, you know what I do now, guys, I was on a first name basis with these guys.
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Hey, Don, you're getting a little too aggressive on social media.
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And I'm like, well, wait, do you know, hold up a second.
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I was like, listen, we have to have a conversation about self-awareness, Dad.
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So business, otherwise, uh, I get, this is one place that perhaps, just perhaps you
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have seated the moral high ground and we gotta, uh, we gotta have a conversation.
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Speaking of that, you're many times inside the White House.
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Um, I mean, you've been, you've been in the exact area where they're saying they found
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The thing that keeps bothering me about it, Don, is that, that why they closed the investigation?
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Like we couldn't find the person and it's over.
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Because that leads directly to Hunter Biden and they're going to, the bureaucrats are
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I mean, listen, I had a, I had a secret service detail for a few years.
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First, first and foremost, the only people that are getting cocaine into the White House
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are people who probably have a secret service detail because the level of screening is just
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So the regular people are going through sniffing dogs.
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You know, they're not throwing their eight ball, uh, you know, on a, on a tray going through
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screening and getting through that doesn't happen.
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So that's first and foremost, but you know, I also had a great relationship with a lot
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of my guys, uh, you know, lifelong friends and, you know, I'll say, you know, from the
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ones that aren't current, uh, the calls that I've gotten be like, they would have never
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eat, you know, cause again, the difference between the bureaucrats and the door kickers,
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we can talk about all the, all day long, right?
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The bureaucrats that run the FBI and the guys that actually do the work, uh, two very different
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And yet the people who are the bureaucrats have all that control, you know, my, my guys
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Like if that was you, if that was Don jr there, there wouldn't have been an investigation when
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you have the most famous coke head in the world, in the white house, they'd be like Hunter
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Biden, obviously like there isn't, you know, that they can do that.
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You know, we, we just magically couldn't find enough evidence, the most monitored house in
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I mean, it's not believable to the ordinary citizen and it's far less believable to me
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having been there, knowing the protocols, knowing the amount of security, zero chance.
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Uh, but, but again, we, we see that time and time again, right?
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It's no different than what we saw this week with the IRS whistleblowers.
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I mean, you know, if that was Don jr's laptop, you know, I, I would say, you know, not only
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would I be in Gitmo from the government, my father would have been sending me there.
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If I took a billion from China, it would be a problem.
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If I had no show jobs in Ukraine, only the places where my father actually had influence
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as vice president, let's just say that would be an issue.
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I mean, we're Megan, like we can even joke about it and the cocaine and the insanity, but
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like we're, according to the Biden administration, the closest we've been to nuclear war since
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And we don't even ask the question, Hey, do you think maybe some of our policy is being
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influenced because they have another Hunter Biden laptop.
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They have more information, uh, that hasn't been made public.
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You know, I imagine there are things that Hunter didn't film and put on video that we're still
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probably, let's call it less than kosher that someone else has.
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And our press, you know, regime propagandists, we'll call them, they won't even ask the question
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like, Hey, are we spending $130 billion in USA?
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We don't have three to finish our border, but to defend Ukraine because the Ukraine, you
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know, they're holding this up over the Biden, like we're not even willing to ask the question
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because to me, that seems most of them, most of them did not even cover the whistleblowers.
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Most of them did not even cover the whistleblowers testimony.
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Fox carried it because they're not interested in corruption within the DOJ that helps Democrats.
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I mean, the very fact that there's no special counsel, um, to, uh, to investigate Biden, uh,
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but there's a special counsel to investigate Trump where there's not, not a conflict of interest.
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I'm sure that they go, go for him and no loyalty to Biden's going to stop that.
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But when they have to investigate their own boss, oh no, we don't need a special counsel
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You know, I guess attorney general Garland can do it.
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Well, no one believes that, but it's, I mean, people are catching on.
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That's why your dad hasn't been hurt in the polls.
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But as we outlined, that doesn't mean the legal jeopardy lifts.
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Um, so DeSantis this week to me, who is, as I point out 30 points behind your dad, it, you
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But, um, started, I won't say he took the gloves off.
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He might've like taken a, like a couple knuckles off, um, where he just to start, he started
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to go after your dad a little bit more robustly.
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I thought it was kind of interesting because he hasn't really done that as much.
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Here he is on, of all places, Howie Kurtz, uh, doing that.
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He promised to bill, have Mexico pay for a border wall.
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He said he was going to eliminate the national debt.
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They added almost $8 trillion to the debt, uh, in four years.
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And of course, in 2020, he turned the country over to Dr. Fauci and those lockdowns and the
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borrowing and printing really sent us on a bad course.
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There's a lot in there, uh, but your thoughts on his shift in tactics and in particular,
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Because I do hear that from people who like to do me a favor, because if it's out there,
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Have you, your viewers find me one piece of evidence before he started essentially running
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for president where Fauci, where Ron DeSantis was calling to fire Dr. Fauci, you know, just
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like he was out there promoting the vaccine on TV commercials.
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Ron DeSantis left the mandates, et cetera, to the counties.
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So it's easy to take sort of the, you know, the cues of, you know, his paid online influencers
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Show me video of him doing it because I can show you a lot of video of him praising these
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But that's perhaps the problem with Ron DeSantis.
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You know, he was sort of running this, the shadow campaign put together by influencers where
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he wasn't saying anything and they were building them up.
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But as someone who spent like weeks with Ron DeSantis, probably more than any person
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who wasn't part of his campaign in like 18, the image that was created online does not
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I mean, I think you talked about, you know, what would happen if they actually debated.
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But you can create a lot with sort of that online meme influencer thing, but it doesn't
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You know, again, Ron DeSantis praised the vaccine on TV numerous times.
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He even attacked the media for saying that he was anti-vax.
00:24:42.180
So it's easy to do the revisionist history if no one's willing to actually call it out.
00:24:48.580
So DeSantis in March, maybe April of 2020, was actually publicly pressuring my father
00:25:00.540
Like these these are facts that are conveniently neglected because it's really easy to say,
00:25:12.040
So, you know, as I always say, sort of to get to know Ron DeSantis is to dislike him.
00:25:16.080
And then you see, more importantly, on the shifts in Ukraine, you saw what he told Tucker
00:25:22.360
Two days later, Karl Rove, Paul Ryan, the billionaire donor class, you know, they're really
00:25:27.500
America first, unless they can get their widget from China for a quarter cent cheaper, in which
00:25:31.140
case then they flip flop on the American people.
00:25:40.100
So, you know, I don't believe that Ron DeSantis isn't going to be beholden to his billionaire
00:25:49.580
Look at the people who are out there endorsing him.
00:25:51.700
Look at the people who are putting millions of dollars into their campaign.
00:25:54.760
You think they're like true, like MAGA base, America first, or you think they're like just,
00:26:03.740
You can look at all of the people and understand exactly where he is.
00:26:06.780
The fundraising numbers that just came in showed that he's getting more money from the bigger
00:26:11.160
donors and Trump's getting more money from the smaller donors, which is helpful to Trump
00:26:29.600
That should tell us everything you need to know.
00:26:35.060
They want the billionaire donor class that you think they're writing because they believe
00:26:38.960
No, they're writing these checks because they want someone to pick up the phone when they
00:26:49.960
They're going against them because they don't want a strong on China policy.
00:26:53.800
That should be clear if it hasn't been across all of corporate America.
00:26:58.320
And, you know, even the Republican billionaire donor class are part of that culture.
00:27:01.920
If they can get their stuff cheaper, that's what they want to do.
00:27:07.160
And we just, you know, maybe we won't touch this.
00:27:08.740
Or we'll tell you what you want to hear until you vote for us.
00:27:11.920
So, you know, between the flip-flop on Ukraine, between those things, like, I had actually
00:27:16.540
had greater hopes for Ron DeSantis, that we'd have a deeper bench.
00:27:20.860
I was a real estate developer before I got thrown into sort of this journey.
00:27:25.300
While I was always a conservative and believed in these things, you know, I want a bench,
00:27:32.640
not just Donald Trump, and then everyone else is a rhino squish.
00:27:36.040
You know, unfortunately, I think I've been disappointed by a lot of the people that I
00:27:41.880
And again, perhaps that's because they need the money.
00:27:45.700
But don't mistake a lot of the attacks against Trump are also to prevent other people like
00:27:50.420
him who don't need those people from ever getting in the race.
00:27:54.180
I think that's a big part of all of this as well.
00:28:03.060
I know we have an average dollar, you know, dollar figure of about 34 bucks a person.
00:28:09.540
It's, you know, I don't want to give you an exact quote because someone will fact check
00:28:17.860
Here's the other thing, a different message I've heard from him, which is he said it before,
00:28:22.200
and I think he's probably going to land on this and it's more recent.
00:28:24.380
He sat with Jake Tapper and I think this is probably his number one argument for why
00:28:34.520
This country needs to have a debate about the country's future.
00:28:38.920
If I'm the nominee, we'll be able to focus on President Biden's failures and I'll be able
00:28:43.780
to articulate a positive vision for the future.
00:28:46.460
I don't think it serves us good to have a presidential election focused on what happened four years
00:28:55.980
I think the fact that they're talking to Jake Tapper tells you probably everything you need
00:29:01.360
You know, arguably the number one person pushing the lie of the Russia, Russia hoax that they
00:29:12.920
I've seen too many of the supposed convictions flip flop.
00:29:25.480
Ron DeSantis is the only guy that can do that, you know, except every poll has Trump beating
00:29:28.800
Biden and none of them have Ron DeSantis, other than maybe an outlier here or there.
00:29:35.560
It's a constant changing argument that never actually seems to work.
00:29:38.660
And again, I have a feeling and I just understanding the base traveling around the country, probably
00:29:46.960
more than any person that's not a candidate and probably more than most of the candidates
00:29:52.300
I'm far more concerned about just trying to prolong an inevitable primary, spending hundreds
00:29:58.840
of millions of dollars to try to get someone with, you know, whether it's Ron DeSantis or
00:30:04.880
you know, one of the people that's pulling it, pulling it exactly, you know, let's call
00:30:08.020
it point oh two percent, you know, on a podium for five minutes to eventually get the CNBC
00:30:31.940
And I've heard conservative grassroots organizations say to me privately, all this money that's
00:30:37.400
going into like this process right now could be spent trying to get Joe Biden.
00:30:41.020
And the Democrats have the advantage of not having to worry about that since they're not
00:30:45.380
allowing a primary of him, despite the fact that there are many, many Democrats who want
00:30:50.040
But of course, this is the process is how it always plays out.
00:30:53.340
It's not his until it's his and no one's ceding the ground.
00:30:56.860
That leads me to the Fox News debate, the very first debate, which is August 23rd.
00:31:00.700
And you and I both know your dad will skip a Fox News debate.
00:31:15.520
I'm torn in the sense that, you know, as someone who likes to talk crap online and do the meme
00:31:21.960
thing, I think it gives someone like me a lot of interesting material.
00:31:25.520
But to sort of the point I was making a minute ago, do you give, you know, a Doug Burgum?
00:31:33.180
But like prior to about two weeks ago, again, if you would have put him in a lineup, I probably
00:31:39.320
Do you give someone polling at point two percent three weeks to work with a team of writers
00:31:45.360
to come up with a zinger for Trump that will then be weaponized?
00:31:51.020
You have we were told we had zero percent chance of winning.
00:32:00.220
But there you were polling is you were the point two percent outlier when you're beating
00:32:13.580
Sometimes the worst fighter lands something and it's just do you do you create that opportunity?
00:32:20.720
There's a component of me that wants to see it only because I'm a masochist and I love
00:32:26.340
But, you know, the strategist side of me says I'm looking at the numbers, I'm looking at
00:32:31.100
the lead and I'm saying, I don't know, it'd be sort of foolish to to actually put yourself
00:32:36.540
Is it all nerve wracking for you when he's out there?
00:32:39.620
Like, you know, even when I'm out there as a debate moderator, I know my husband gets
00:32:52.720
I mean, you know, even, you know, the the CNN town hall a couple of weeks ago, I was just
00:33:05.480
And it's sort of, you know, you have the argument.
00:33:07.500
Well, we just want someone who's not really going to fight or be vicious.
00:33:12.260
And I always counter that with, you know, if they attacked you, if they lied about you,
00:33:16.760
if they said you were an agent of Russia, they try to put your family in jail.
00:33:20.080
Like, you think your demeanor would be a little different?
00:33:22.540
I mean, all the things they accused him of with the bad demeanor.
00:33:25.500
Like, he was sort of pushing back against things that have since been proven to be lies,
00:33:31.280
Just wait six months and it'll turn out to be the truth.
00:33:33.240
But it doesn't matter because they notch the win at the time.
00:33:39.180
So they just take it as though it's the gospel.
00:33:41.400
And then when you're proven right, you know, we do a great job of trailing.
00:33:46.320
Like, they got everything they wanted out of this.
00:33:50.200
They're laughing their asses off, having gotten the win and having weaponized, you know,
00:33:58.780
So, you know, you do get nervous, but I know he likes being out there.
00:34:01.420
So, you know, try to have some fun with it as well.
00:34:03.720
It's easier when you're out there, when you're the one in control, you know,
00:34:06.900
whatever it is, whether it's a hit you're doing or speech.
00:34:09.100
So much easier when you feel like you're in control and so much more painful when it's
00:34:13.620
On the subject of Fox News, I heard you say they've gone dark on you.
00:34:21.060
You know, I've been told that, you know, I'm on, you know, the blacklist.
00:34:27.780
The last time I was on, I think it was like August.
00:34:35.260
I think I was polling second or third myself, even with Trump in there.
00:34:47.880
I don't need to, you know, that's going to make Thanksgiving really awkward.
00:34:51.460
Uh, and, uh, but, you know, I was doing pretty well, even, you know, in there and, you know,
00:34:58.460
And I, I assume as, as you and I probably both know, but I imagine you can talk less about,
00:35:03.300
you know, there are, there are mandates there and they make decisions and they want to control
00:35:10.040
And you, you saw which way they were going for quite some time.
00:35:13.020
Uh, it was a fluff fest, like I've never seen, uh, for, you know, quite a few months there.
00:35:18.720
And that seems to be transitioning a little bit away because perhaps they, uh, see the
00:35:24.120
And again, they want that access to power that unfortunately is such a big part of today's
00:35:29.580
But yeah, no, I, you know, I, I have not been on, I was, I was asked to go on, uh, and
00:35:34.440
I won't even name the shows cause it doesn't matter.
00:35:36.240
And because, you know, I'm friends with some people there, they're like, Hey, can you come
00:35:38.700
on to talk about, you know, this was the Florida indictment?
00:35:46.080
I think I can probably talk better than most about my father's, uh, indictment and the abuse
00:35:55.700
I'm like, Hey, like my hits in like 10 minutes and you know, the van's not here.
00:36:05.880
But, you know, so there there's little question in my mind.
00:36:09.960
They, they, you know, one of the usual pundits that are thrown on there to talk about these
00:36:13.020
things, I imagine they probably would not do as well as me.
00:36:16.500
They certainly don't have the emotional connection.
00:36:18.440
They probably, you know, to use perhaps the, my father's, they probably wouldn't rate as
00:36:23.260
well as me on that issue, but that doesn't seem to matter.
00:36:25.920
So yeah, I, I assume if considering I was on, let's call it Fox, maybe daily, uh, or at
00:36:33.440
least act asked to be on daily pretty much every day prior to that for the last five
00:36:40.980
Uh, I imagine, uh, that isn't just coincidence.
00:36:44.080
I imagine that's there and whether that's, you know, me swiping at the rhinos like Paul
00:36:48.080
Ryan, who seemed to be pulling a lot of the strings there or otherwise, uh, you know,
00:36:53.200
Uh, but it, it's not a coincidence because there are no coincidence that flagrant.
00:36:57.700
As soon as your dad has it locked up, if he locks it up, they'll bend the knee.
00:37:05.220
They're not going to continue with this stance.
00:37:10.500
They it's like Trump didn't exist for the past year.
00:37:13.940
And just like the first time, frankly, he overcame that blackout or that, you know, we don't
00:37:20.000
want him attitude by the owners and made himself by far the front runner.
00:37:25.640
So I think, you know, the Murdochs got on board the last time that, I mean, I can, I can definitely
00:37:30.480
speak to that one and I'm sure they will this time as well.
00:37:33.740
If he manages to, you know, to secure this when, when the voting actually begins.
00:37:37.840
Um, let's talk about Nancy Pelosi because she's looking at the other side, Don, and she's
00:37:45.240
You know, he's polling right there with the GOP, uh, candidates like Trump, like DeSantis.
00:37:50.720
And while you may think that he he's too old and you mentioned him falling up and down
00:37:55.200
the stairs and you can't spit out two sentences, she says he's just a kid.
00:38:01.580
I think the president should embrace his age, his experience, uh, what he has, the knowledge
00:38:13.780
And again, we're very fortunate, uh, that he is in that position.
00:38:28.360
Well, listen, I think that's Nancy Pelosi desperately holding onto her youth as well.
00:38:32.280
She's no spring chicken, but you see that again, there's no consequence, uh, for the
00:38:38.440
I mean, we, we have a president that can't get through a basic sentence.
00:38:42.600
I mean, it's not like it's a one-time incident and, you know, guys like me are making fun of
00:38:48.000
I can, without using words, get up on a stage and do like the handshake to nowhere that seems
00:38:53.200
to happen every time Joe Biden gets lost on the stage and everyone knows what's going
00:38:59.920
Remember, you know, Donald Trump once held a banister in a winter day on a rainy day to
00:39:06.440
And we had every, you know, telepsychologist, uh, you know, oh my God, he's in the later stages
00:39:16.580
If you actually talk to an actual neurologist and you look at Joe Biden, they can diagnose
00:39:21.140
him to a T and yet that strangely won't happen.
00:39:25.880
And you know this now as well, you know, when you have the entire weight and full force of
00:39:32.040
mainstream media, and I say even conservative because they're not willing to go as far as
00:39:35.740
That's why, you know, shows like this shows like mine, where we can actually have that
00:39:39.500
real conversation without, well, you must bend the knee to the unit party in DC and pretend
00:39:44.700
It's different when you have the full weight of big tech, you know, artificially boosted.
00:39:49.460
I mean, I'm Joe Biden's running around talking about Bidenomics and how it's working for
00:39:53.140
Like, you know, I'm many things, but I am self-aware.
00:39:56.180
And as the son of a billionaire, okay, as a son of a billionaire, when I go and take my
00:40:04.220
Like, if I'm experiencing sticker shock, and let's just say it's not going to matter if
00:40:09.440
groceries are a little bit more, if my gas price, you know, if gas was 15, 20 bucks,
00:40:13.720
like, it's not going to change my life that much.
00:40:15.740
But if I'm shocked at that number, what's it doing to real Americans?
00:40:19.580
I don't know a single American that's benefiting from quote unquote Bidenomics, and yet they
00:40:28.360
You know, that's another obstacle that we have to surmount because, you know, they have
00:40:32.620
trillion dollar institutions functioning as their cheerleaders, their marketing department.
00:40:38.900
You saw what they did for the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:40:42.360
But beyond the institutions of big tech and mainstream media that are giving them billions
00:40:47.060
of dollars worth of free coverage, you know, artificially boosting one side, denigrating
00:40:51.600
the other, covering up the nonsense from one side, making it up about the other, you know,
00:40:57.460
they then also have the entire weight and strength of the federal government, like the 52, you
00:41:03.000
know, intelligence officers that knew nothing about the Biden laptop, but were willing to
00:41:08.740
say that it was Russian disinformation because, you know, why not get a couple more years out
00:41:12.640
of Russia, Russia, Russia, even if it was totally disproven.
00:41:15.520
So I had the two whistleblowers on the show and they I learned from Gary Shapley that the boss
00:41:22.140
that like we knew that the FBI had the laptop in its possession back in 19 and well before it went
00:41:28.120
to the social media companies and said, beware of Russian disinformation coming on Hunter.
00:41:31.860
What I didn't and then we and then we knew also that they had verified that it was Hunter's,
00:41:37.560
I just assumed that they had looked at the content and done some sort of foot soldier
00:41:42.420
They actually had it linked almost right away from his Apple ID in the cloud right to the
00:41:49.520
I mean, there was absolutely no doubt that it was his.
00:41:53.400
And not only did they go and, you know, do this thing with the social media companies like
00:41:59.820
the laptop, they had those, you know, the CIA, the FBI, the intelligence community work with
00:42:04.980
those 52 so-called experts who came from those from those agencies to say, we think it's Russian
00:42:11.820
I mean, the more you learn about it, the more disgusted you get.
00:42:16.140
And again, I have a feeling that if it was the Don Jr.
00:42:19.880
laptop from hell, I would not have gotten that benefit.
00:42:22.600
I would not have had anyone in the intelligence agencies come out and try to defend me.
00:42:27.340
In fact, they would do the opposite as they did.
00:42:30.120
I mean, you saw and I believe it's Adam Schiff.
00:42:32.140
But, you know, when they took the random email, it was like a spam email from some random dude
00:42:36.640
with the WikiLeaks stuff like they they took out the date.
00:42:41.360
I think it was like, you know, let's call it June 14th.
00:42:47.020
So it looked like I had received the WikiLeaks communications on the fourth instead of the
00:42:54.980
So they tried to make it seem like I had it a week.
00:43:00.340
And again, that's like, you know, Ron DeSantis running to Jake Tapper.
00:43:07.360
Now, when it was proven that it was BS, not even a retraction.
00:43:13.540
Like it was some dude literally spammed like a few hundred, you know, Trump org email addresses
00:43:20.940
They edit the things out, you know, in the House Intelligence Committee.
00:43:24.800
And it's like, oh, we got him now because it didn't matter.
00:43:27.980
They'll have someone pretend that it's true, even if it's nonsense.
00:43:31.020
Once the nonsense comes out, they score the win.
00:43:36.840
Adam Schiff had lied repeatedly about having seen intelligence that we now know he did not
00:43:40.760
That's why they censored him in the GOP controlled house.
00:43:44.200
He says he takes their contempt as a badge of honor.
00:43:53.300
You know, I don't know about why shouldn't he go on CNN?
00:43:57.000
Because don't you think like your dad does very well when he has contentious interviews?
00:44:03.060
I think Ron DeSantis should go on with Joy Reid, Don.
00:44:09.800
The Tapper thing wasn't all that combative, so maybe didn't work there.
00:44:13.000
But they do well when they are across from liberal media that hates them.
00:44:18.520
I used to do it all the time before they sort of lost their minds.
00:44:21.040
I mean, I, you know, I had done Tapper quite a bit myself.
00:44:24.740
I'd done a lot of these shows, certainly in the 16th cycle.
00:44:28.280
You know, I think some of these people that, you know, they've lost their mind.
00:44:31.900
You saw the Joy Reid response to sort of the striking down of affirmative action.
00:44:36.760
She's almost like a conservative because I agreed with everything that she said, which was
00:44:39.460
essentially I would not have gotten into Harvard if it wasn't for affirmative action.
00:44:45.240
I'm like, well, like, isn't that, you know, yeah, like someone else would have that probably
00:44:51.160
And, you know, I'm not going to I don't think anyone who's watched Joy Reid is going to defend
00:44:56.340
But, you know, she got there and was making my point.
00:44:59.900
I think you could go in there and dunk on all of them as we did in the past.
00:45:04.160
Who wouldn't watch your dad across from Joy Reid?
00:45:07.380
Or like even when you went on The View, it was a thing of beauty.
00:45:16.840
I have to say it was like the my favorite Don Jr.
00:45:20.380
If you haven't seen it, people, you know, we'll drop it in here.
00:45:26.700
But if we're talking about character, we're talking about.
00:45:36.960
I simply said that when you're talking about your father's taking more heat than anybody
00:45:53.060
I think the Central Park Five took a lot more heat than your father has taken at his hand.
00:45:56.640
By the way, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
00:46:06.500
I would buy a ticket to that, you know, so I do think these GOPers should get out there.
00:46:16.420
I'd probably pay much better money to to watch that one.
00:46:21.760
So now you have, of course, the media, you know, they hate all Republicans, but the
00:46:25.640
controversy pops up in the cultural culture wars every other day.
00:46:30.460
I it's been getting a lot of attention how Jason Aldean's latest song is being canceled.
00:46:41.260
Let's just play a little bit of the of the song that's gotten him in trouble as allegedly
00:46:53.620
Somebody on a sidewalk carjacking on lady at a red light.
00:47:34.300
I think it's what we're seeing time and time again,
00:47:47.660
It's 100% true that that would happen in a small town
00:47:52.840
I wish the rest of America functioned that way.
00:48:00.240
I compared his lyrics to that of WAP by Cardi B.
00:48:05.560
And it's shocking that even country music television
00:48:08.680
can seemingly just disavow literally their entire audience
00:48:13.460
to kowtow to Hollywood or perhaps the music companies over there.
00:48:27.960
Literally everything, everything has become racism
00:48:33.040
if you're on the left and we don't like you, right?
00:48:45.820
all of life's problems as they would have you believe,
00:49:21.860
they were so able to instill fear in the hearts of,
00:49:26.660
you know, you don't want to be called a racist.
00:49:27.780
That's the worst thing you could possibly call it.
00:49:41.620
those are, that's a great song with wholesome lyrics
00:49:44.380
of a guy that really believes in America first.
00:49:50.540
and Antifa riots that caused billions in damage,
00:49:53.240
burned down cities, killed people, murdered people,
00:50:12.520
They were just harassing innocent restaurant goers
00:50:56.300
But, you know, the cities have given up entirely
00:51:21.060
That was perhaps the first insanity that I saw.
00:51:29.500
And, you know, I wasn't allowed to get political
00:51:37.540
I was like, you guys should really talk to this
00:51:41.940
but I don't think anyone understands the scope.
00:51:47.620
And, you know, eventually they actually have Tim Ballard
00:51:54.400
like $300 million to, like, look into the issue
00:52:02.460
It should just be something that 100% of people
00:52:09.940
You know, this movie was actually made five years ago.
00:52:15.400
The people praising it then are deriding it today.
00:52:21.200
He got a standing ovation at the State of the Union
00:52:39.580
you know, I know you're not allowed to say grooming
00:52:43.540
essentially pornographic material in elementary schools.
00:52:48.840
if you don't want a three-year-old to see graphic details
00:52:50.900
about, you know, various, let's call it unconventional sex.
00:53:00.360
Like, the people when they're canceling, you know,
00:53:14.120
How did they own story hour that it became this big?
00:53:17.420
You're telling me that wasn't some sort of setup?
00:53:30.880
Okay, well, we're just not allowing kids to be there.
00:53:35.240
Like, well, but I thought it wasn't about, like,
00:54:27.740
There's a similar bill in California right now.