The Megyn Kelly Show - Dylan Mulvaney's Latest Pivot, and Leaks Against Tucker Carlson Continue, with Matt Taibbi & Libs of TikTok's Chaya Raichik

00:00:00.620 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:12.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We've got a lot to get to today.

00:00:16.080 We've got Matt Taibbi, we've got Libs of TikTok. The creator is here and I'm looking forward to

00:00:21.440 meeting her for the first time. But we begin with just this. I just wanted to tell you when

00:00:26.420 we signed off on Friday. I told you I was going down to Miami, which I did for one of my best

00:00:31.560 friend's 50th birthday parties. You met her, Yael Dembo. She was on the show along with Joelle

00:00:37.860 Cosentino when I was out in Vegas in March. Remember, I put them both on. So Yael turned 50

00:00:43.940 and had such a fun birthday party and we all went. She's got tons of friends who I'd never met before,

00:00:49.620 who I really loved. And Miami is fun for a birthday party. FYI, it is fun. Like every place you go,

00:00:56.040 people are dancing on the tables and they got like fire and you just, just a riot and a lot

00:01:01.300 of fun if you ever want to have a party. But I made a little news while there apparently because

00:01:06.880 I was by the pool with Joelle, one of my friends, and posted a picture of the two of us. She was

00:01:14.040 wearing her happy birthday Yael black baseball cap and I was wearing my cap, which I bought off of

00:01:21.700 Kelly J. Keene's website, also known to you as Posey Parker. She came on the show. She's a women's

00:01:26.900 rights advocate. And my hat is in the style of the MAGA hat, but it does not read make America great

00:01:32.600 again. It reads make women female again. And it's awesome. I love my hat. Well, everyone went nuts

00:01:43.160 for this hat. 90% lovers, 10% deep haters. And it was fascinating to watch. You got sites like

00:01:50.940 Mediaite. That's the media website. They're like, oh, so much support for the hat. But there were

00:01:56.820 haters and made a point of saying, oh, misogynistic comments about Megan and her friend Joelle. Oh,

00:02:02.760 people bringing up blackface. This is the reporter at Mediaite trying to work out his issues.

00:02:07.040 Let me remind you of the things that make her look bad. Okay. That's fun because 90% of the

00:02:13.240 comments were pro the hat. But this is what happens, right? People need in the media to tear

00:02:18.960 you down. If you take a stand, it's not dissimilar from what Tucker was saying the other day about how

00:02:23.620 if you buck the party rule, if you speak the truth, it's liberating. But of course you will be attacked.

00:02:28.720 I don't care. I couldn't care less. Go ahead and attack me. Call me whatever you want.

00:02:32.360 He also pointed out that Kelly J. Keene has embraced the term TERF, trans exclusionary radical

00:02:38.860 feminist, though the truth is she doesn't really consider herself a feminist for the same reason

00:02:42.440 many of us don't. You can call me that too. I don't care. I don't care. We talked about trans

00:02:47.040 exclusionary. I am trans exclusionary when it comes to women's bathrooms and women's lockers and women's

00:02:52.360 swimming lanes and sports and places that are supposed to belong to women because trans women are not

00:02:57.540 women. They're men. OK, so I am trans exclusionary to that extent. I have empathy in my heart for the

00:03:05.000 difficult situation that the people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria are going through,

00:03:10.500 but not for these glommers like Dylan Mulvaney, who I believe is faking it to get attention. No

00:03:15.400 zero empathy for somebody like that. That's where I am. I'm going to wear the hat. I got a great shirt

00:03:21.240 I'm going to bring to you later this week. I love Kelly J. Keene's website. We've been in touch. I

00:03:26.160 paid. I paid for all my gear. I didn't ask her for free stuff just because she came on my show.

00:03:30.620 But I think I might be getting some because we basically crashed her website with all of the

00:03:34.740 signups. My point is, look, I wore the hat down there because I'm sick of all the bullshit. I'm sick

00:03:41.380 of denying women's rights in the name of sparing people's feelings. Women are getting raped in prisons.

00:03:46.060 We had four teenage girls in ninth grade out in Wisconsin who had a guy whip out his penis

00:03:51.280 in the women's locker room, the girls' locker room. It is embarrassing enough to have to swim

00:03:57.260 when you're in your teenage years as a woman, as a girl, during school. The last thing you need to

00:04:02.320 see is a penis coming at you in the showers after the pool. Okay? So I'm done. I don't care about the

00:04:08.280 feelings anymore. I care about women. I care about girls. I care about their feelings. That's who I'm

00:04:13.040 fighting for. And when I wore the hat down there, a lot of liberals in our group, a lot of, well,

00:04:19.100 not a lot, but a couple of conservatives. One woman from Canada was unbelievable. Her 92-year-old

00:04:24.760 mother, I can't remember how old she said she was, who had been more conservative in Canada,

00:04:27.940 had been saying all along, this is bullshit. Women are women, blah, blah, blah. And the younger

00:04:32.280 daughter, closer to my age, had been saying, Mom, be nice, be kind. Well, she's turned now because of

00:04:38.040 all this nonsense. So while I thought maybe some of the group would be like, that hat. No. You know

00:04:44.220 what happened? Virtually all the women in the group were like, I need that hat. And that was

00:04:48.600 the reaction online. Virtually everyone who saw that picture said, I need that hat. So much so

00:04:55.220 that the comments below the posts on Instagram and Twitter, you know how like these merchandise

00:05:01.360 makers, they can quickly make a hat because if they think they're going to make a dollar, they'll be

00:05:04.980 like, come here and buy the hat that says this. Don't do it there. Go to Kelly J. Keene's website,

00:05:08.660 which I'll, I'll mention. I don't, I can't remember off the top of my head. Steve, get it to me so I

00:05:13.660 can save this segment. Um, so much so that some of these merch makers started making the happy

00:05:20.540 birthday Yael hat because it was just like, people were going so nuts over the hats. So these opportunistic

00:05:26.060 merch makers were like, maybe they really love the black hat. I don't, it's unclear. The point is,

00:05:31.960 say it loud, say it proud. You might think that you're in the minority, but you're not,

00:05:38.420 especially on this issue, which has crossed party lines. Women are still women. Women are female.

00:05:47.500 We're the only ones who are female. And while you can be empathetic toward the social

00:05:53.300 difficulties of somebody who says they're gender dysphoric or who says they don't think they were

00:05:59.360 wrong and born in the wrong body, we can all draw a hard line on them coming into our spaces.

00:06:05.200 We're not going to be threatened by some lunatic who wants to blow us up with his gun. Like we saw

00:06:09.960 last week, we're not going to have some allegedly trans person whipping out his penis in front of our

00:06:15.320 14 year old daughters post swimming. We're not going to continue to sit by and let female prisoners

00:06:21.240 get raped where they're literally unable to escape their circumstances. And we are going to speak

00:06:29.760 out no matter what you call us turf, transphobe, bring up, you know, bad things that allegedly make

00:06:37.560 us look bad. Do it, do it. I'm not afraid of you. And millions of people feel exactly the same way

00:06:44.980 I do. So tune in later this week for my next Kelly J Keene piece of clothing, which I think you might

00:06:52.760 like even more than the hat. Okay. Um, Hey, I also, Oh, here's the website, adult human, female dot us

00:07:01.980 adult human, female dot us. You have to do dot us. If you're in the U S if you're in the UK, it's a

00:07:06.980 it's dot UK. So you figured out, go to the website. Okay, let's move on. President Joe Biden openly

00:07:12.340 mocking members of the white house press corps. Good for him. Good for him. Team Biden. And the

00:07:17.860 stupid reporters don't even realize that they're yes. Right on. We suck. We're sick of fans. It's

00:07:23.420 amazing. It was a, what is a cell phone self goal own goal. Plus new evidence that the corporate media

00:07:29.200 will not be happy about the firing of Tucker Carlson until the whole channels off the air. Okay,

00:07:34.480 whatever. Um, we'll get to the latest on that. My first guest today is a so-called journalist,

00:07:40.660 so-called journalist doing so much solid journalism that democratic lawmakers are now threatening to

00:07:45.780 put him in prison, in prison, using the IRS to intimidate him as well into silence. It's

00:07:51.580 unbelievable what has happened to Matt Taibbi. He's editor of racket news on sub stack. Matt,

00:07:57.680 welcome back. How are you doing? I'm great. Megan. Thanks for having me. Good. Nice hat.

00:08:03.680 Yeah. Yeah. This is a Japanese baseball and we're going that direction. Very cool. Yeah. No,

00:08:10.640 we, uh, we talked about that the first time we came on. Um, so yeah, a lot's happened to you since

00:08:15.680 you were last on the IRS is coming for you. And this moronic democratic lawmaker wants you in jail

00:08:21.640 now alleging that you lied before Congress in your sworn testimony, which itself is a lie,

00:08:26.420 but can we just spend one minute on what happened with the IRS? Cause it happened right after your

00:08:30.200 Twitter files expose. And look, it's not conspiratorial to say these two events are so

00:08:36.080 linked in time. It's deeply disturbing and feels a little like you're being targeted that plus the

00:08:40.820 then jail threat make it seem even more plausible. But what happened with the IRS? Did they actually

00:08:45.800 come to your house? Like what happened? Yes. So, uh, Michael Schellenberger and I, um,

00:08:52.620 you know, we're both Twitter files reporters. We testified, uh, before the house weaponization of

00:08:59.860 government subcommittee, uh, early in March. And as I was testifying a, an IRS agent came to my house

00:09:07.700 and left a note on my door, um, telling me to call in four days. So when I got home from, uh, from

00:09:17.360 Washington, my wife, uh, showed me the note and, uh, apparently the IRS wanted me to sit and stew

00:09:24.420 about it for the weekend. So they didn't answer my calls for a couple of days. And then when I finally

00:09:29.820 did call and find out what was going on, um, the, the complaints were very strange. And, uh, I initially

00:09:36.660 thought it had to be a coincidence. It's just too silly for somebody to send an IRS agent to your door

00:09:41.040 while you're testifying, but it actually happened. And, uh, now, now I'm much more leaning in the

00:09:47.000 direction of this can't possibly have been a coincidence. No, it couldn't have. It's just too,

00:09:52.860 the timing of it is just, it's too much. So now you've had the IRS sicked on you because what you

00:09:58.620 had the temerity to report that there was government coordination with big tech and pressure by the

00:10:02.720 government on big tech, though not a lot was needed, uh, to report things the way the government

00:10:08.780 wanted them reported. Uh, and there's been so much evidence of that on, on COVID on Hunter Biden.

00:10:15.320 Um, we could go down the list. So you and Schellenberger and Barry Weiss and others have

00:10:18.980 been doing a great job on this. Um, then you made the very foolish decision for a very smart man

00:10:27.060 of going on MSNBC with Mehdi Hassan. I know you see that now when you did it the day, I was like,

00:10:33.340 what's he doing? What? Yeah, no, of course it was an idiotic decision.

00:10:37.960 Yeah. It was such, it was like kind of sweet. Cause it was, you were in good faith and you

00:10:42.120 were like, I'll go and speak with somebody who I know disagrees with me and is going to be a critic

00:10:45.820 of me. And I, and I think that, you know, I can stand by it was sweet. It was like born of your good

00:10:50.880 faith in our profession. Silly, silly man. And now that last sliver of good faith in humanity you had

00:10:57.280 is gone because Mehdi Hassan was the most dishonest, disgusting person to you in the exchange and try to

00:11:05.200 make it look like you were a liar. And then we found out after the fact that he was the one lying

00:11:08.260 about your reporting, kind of caught you off guard on a couple of things that you were sort of being

00:11:11.660 nice, giving him a point. Cause he was like, this is a proof positive. You misstated this and proof

00:11:15.240 positive. And you're like, okay, if I, if I did, I'll, I'll, I'll correct it. Turned out he was wrong

00:11:19.840 on the things. And now this moron as if I'm not mistaken, it's the U S representative for the Virgin

00:11:25.500 Islands is threatening to throw you in jail saying you perjured yourself. So when you heard that,

00:11:31.060 what was your reaction? Yeah, I was horrified. Um, you know, the, first of all, the decision to go

00:11:38.280 on with, with Mehdi, you know, I was being cocky. I was trying to make a point. Um, I've been upset

00:11:45.260 with MSNBC for some time because I think the, the station doesn't answer its critics. I think that's

00:11:51.800 part of the responsibility of journalism is that if you have people who disagree with you, who think

00:11:57.100 you've made errors or you think that there are, or think that there are flaws in your reporting that

00:12:00.820 you have to face them. And that's how the public ultimately benefits. So it would be hypocritical

00:12:05.900 of me to not go on the air and face their hostile questioning when I've been very critical of them.

00:12:11.680 So I, I went on, um, and to be fair, you know, in the interview, his questions were, they were hostile,

00:12:19.180 but they were more or less in bounds. I mean, I think he, he caught me on a couple of things. I did make

00:12:24.120 a few mistakes. Um, in, in some tweets, they were, I would say not some substantive mistakes. They were

00:12:32.120 the kind of mistakes you make after that happen in any kind of reporting, whether you have fact

00:12:38.080 checkers looking at it or not. Um, but it turned into a big thing because he thought that I had made

00:12:45.620 a major error in, uh, confusing two organizations, one of which is an intelligence agency and one of

00:12:52.120 which is not, in fact, uh, both the intelligence agency and the civil society organization that,

00:12:59.260 that we were talking about, they're both partners with the same, uh, Stanford group that was doing

00:13:06.140 content moderation for Twitter. So actually they made an error, um, in, in not seeing that. And

00:13:13.540 he later tweeted out that, you know, I had lied to Congress because I had confused these two

00:13:19.260 organizations. And that was when the, the letter, um, was written by representative Stacey Plaskett

00:13:26.340 of the Virgin islands, who's threatening me now with five years in prison for having intentionally

00:13:32.060 lied to Congress when actually hilariously, they're making an error, um, in the letter.

00:13:38.560 Uh, we could get into the weeds about that, but, but that's, that's where we are. Yeah.

00:13:42.860 No, I, she's too stupid to be in Congress. Truly. I mean, like she's too dumb. She needs,

00:13:47.760 I'm sorry. She needs to go like there's dumb. And then there's just dumb as a box of rocks,

00:13:52.340 boxy, the representative from Virgin islands, boxy slash Roxy needs to go. It was deeply offensive.

00:13:59.300 We covered it on the air when it happened. And I know we're laughing at it because it's not going

00:14:03.900 to happen, but on some level, I mean, sadly, this moron has some power and a field of Democrats

00:14:10.440 that has been demonizing you for months now. So there's gotta be some element of it that is a

00:14:15.640 little frightening. Yeah. I w I wouldn't be so quick to laugh at it and say, that's never going

00:14:22.580 to happen because, um, look, the history of our country shows that when, um, people least expect

00:14:30.900 it, uh, figures like this will take it, uh, the extra step and you never know. It could be,

00:14:37.140 end up being a situation like the house on American affairs committee, um, where you have a bunch of

00:14:43.000 people who are invited in to give testimony. And then they're held in contempt of Congress

00:14:46.700 because they refuse to answer questions right now that that can't happen because Stacey

00:14:51.640 Pesquette is in the minority. She can't compel me to come in and she can't send me a subpoena,

00:14:55.980 but who knows what's going to happen in the future. And this threat of sending somebody to jail,

00:15:02.780 sending a journalist to jail is an extraordinary escalation of the kind of hostility against the

00:15:10.000 media that again, if you can, can you imagine what would have happened if this had happened,

00:15:14.520 uh, if a Republican had done this under in the Donald Trump years to, you know, somebody like

00:15:19.360 Jim Acosta, um, you know, or, or Ben Collins of NBC or, or, uh, Ken Delanian, we would never hear the

00:15:28.120 end of it. Uh, but you know, the, the press does not see the danger in this and, and they really should.

00:15:34.460 You know, the white house correspondence dinner was this past weekend. It actually used to be a

00:15:40.240 thing. It used to be an event that like, you know, you wanted to get into what, when I went one year,

00:15:44.020 very young in my career, George Clooney was there. Obama was president. That's why he went,

00:15:48.160 he wanted to rub elbows with Obama. Um, but it's now since she's become one of those sad little

00:15:53.260 events that like the people don't realize the cool kids aren't going to that anymore. And it's just

00:15:57.520 sort of the leftovers. Um, and they get up there and just want to talk about press freedoms. I didn't hear

00:16:01.700 your name mentioned, Matt. I didn't hear with Joe Biden in the room. Anybody look at him and say

00:16:07.460 that was outrageous. What a member of your party did. And we call on you to condemn it, sir.

00:16:13.780 Where's that? That would have happened even 10 years ago. The mainstream press would have stood up

00:16:19.820 for you, but they won't. And they've been utterly silent about this whole thing.

00:16:25.040 Or they would have stood up for Julian Assange or Edward Snowden. I mean, remember Glenn Greenwald won

00:16:31.540 an Oscar and a Pulitzer for doing Snowden reporting. And it was sort of considered, you know, normal in the

00:16:39.800 mainstream press to be supportive of a whistleblower and be contemptuous of the person who lies about the

00:16:45.700 same revelations in Congress. Uh, Julian Assange is, you know, is facing basically life in prison for

00:16:52.260 showing a video that, um, most of the country was anxious to look at. Uh, the idea of using these

00:17:00.240 draconian punishments to, to threaten reporters, it's an unreported, uh, story or an underreported

00:17:08.200 story that took, began to take place in the Obama years when they began threatening, uh, reporters in

00:17:14.020 their sources with the Espionage Act, uh, more than they, than presidents ever had before. And, you know,

00:17:20.500 this is a continuation of the same thing. Uh, I don't like, like you, I don't think it's going to

00:17:25.200 happen in this case, but the fact that they would even think in that direction, um, tells you what

00:17:30.780 their attitude is toward the media. Uh, and, and what you were talking about with the White House

00:17:35.120 dinner, there's just no differentiation anymore between reporters and people in power. And, you

00:17:43.220 know, for instance, like, uh, you know, members of the Pentagon, it's all one team that there's no

00:17:49.040 adversarial relationship that where there used to be one.

00:17:51.900 Absolutely not. And one of the best examples that I'm going to play some soundbites from the

00:17:56.440 White, the White House correspondence dinner was just absurd. I absolutely like stunning what they

00:17:59.960 were saying about themselves, but there's no better example of that than Jen Psaki, who was

00:18:04.880 literally working for this president before she jumped to go work on MSNBC in a Sunday show. I think

00:18:14.440 it's Sundays, it's weekends, which is absolutely failing. Oh my God. We looked up the ratings.

00:18:20.680 I actually had to say to Canadian Debbie who produced my number one show. Um, all of them

00:18:26.100 while I was at Fox, did you get, was this a typo? I think you've screwed something up Canadian Debbie.

00:18:31.540 There's no way she has 29,000 in the key advertising demo of 25 to 54. And Debbie corrected me and said,

00:18:38.160 MK, I don't screw things up. It's 29,000, 29,000. That's her average viewers in the 25 to 54 year olds,

00:18:47.780 which is all they look at. She's, I mean, it's just, yes, that's the only appropriate response

00:18:51.720 is to laugh. I mean that, I don't, you, as soon as you get your station on the air, you have 29,000

00:18:58.460 viewers. Like it'd be really hard to go below that. I don't even know how you do it. So, but she's on

00:19:04.780 the air. MSNBC is celebrating this person. And she of course was thrilled to see a dissenting voice,

00:19:11.740 a heterodox voice like your own Tucker Carlson to be pulled, to lose his job, to lose his platform.

00:19:20.260 And not only does she want like that, she wants Fox to lose his platform too. And I realize a lot

00:19:25.340 of people are mad at Fox. I'm one of them. Shouldn't be de-platformed. Shouldn't be pulled

00:19:29.220 off of the cable stations, but that's how the left sees. Here's just a little bit of Jen Psaki,

00:19:34.900 this weekend. But if you think Tucker's firing means Fox has seen the light,

00:19:43.900 don't hold your breath. Don't judge them on why they fired Carlson. Judge them for all the times

00:19:49.760 they didn't. And judge them for what they're still putting on the air this week. Fox News may have had

00:19:55.780 a problem with Tucker himself, but his ideas, the conspiracies, the lies, his explicit white

00:20:02.480 nationalist views were never the total problem for the network. They endorse all of that and continue

00:20:08.980 to do so. This is simply who they are. You tell it to your 29,000 demo viewers, Jen. Tell them, tell

00:20:17.560 them all. Your thoughts on it. It's incredible. You know, the thing that that's been kind of remarkable

00:20:27.020 to watch, especially in the last six or seven years, is the lack of understanding

00:20:32.340 by stations like CNN and MSNBC. The press derives all of its institutional power from the perception

00:20:42.960 of separateness from government. All right. So if the audience believes that it's acting as a check

00:20:49.360 on presidents, whether on the left or the right, it has to believe that the press is independent.

00:20:55.040 Well, you puncture that suspension of disbelief if you have one government official after the other

00:21:01.520 on the air. And in many cases, acting like acting as newsreaders, whether it's Jen Psaki or Nicole

00:21:08.140 Wallace, and you have guests like Andrew Weissman and Frank Figliucci and John Brennan. I mean,

00:21:15.020 it's you're practically watching Langley TV. Yes. You're giving up your independence entirely,

00:21:22.080 which strips the press of any power that it ever had. Because now the audience views you as an

00:21:28.500 extension of the government. And what's the point of that? You're not going to get ratings out of that

00:21:33.440 and you're not going to get influence out of that. So all you're doing is surrendering

00:21:37.800 any advantage that you ever had and any role that you had as the fourth estate and audiences see that.

00:21:46.540 And that's why the numbers are so low. Who would watch that? And for what reason?

00:21:50.720 Yeah. Her guest this weekend was Ron Klain, former chief of staff for President Biden. I mean,

00:21:56.000 it's just we looked up just the trajectory to see maybe she's just started and she's building,

00:22:00.900 you know, give her some time. Literally, it's like a downward escalator. I mean, both numbers,

00:22:05.180 the overall and the demo off a cliff. No one wants to watch Jen Psaki. I mean, no one.

00:22:12.280 She decided. I mean, this is so true of all these people that what they work at the White House press

00:22:16.540 office. They what they really want is to be a cable news star. And so they they lay the foundation

00:22:22.660 while they're over there trying to make themselves into a national personality. And what they really

00:22:26.080 want is the job of the people they watch on primetime every night. They're just they're envious.

00:22:30.340 It's true of half of Congress, too. It's pathetic. Would you just fucking legislate or or or work with

00:22:36.080 the executive office to come up with better messaging and better policy instead of be a star effort?

00:22:40.380 That's what these people turn into. And so she now is trying to make herself into a star and she's

00:22:44.880 failing because she has no actual talent in this field. She had more talent being a spinner,

00:22:48.980 a professional spinner behind the lectern than she does being a different kind of professional

00:22:52.860 spinner behind the MSNBC mic. All right. That's my terror on Jen Psaki. AOC, meanwhile, is actually

00:22:59.280 fundraising. She's fundraising off of Tucker's firing. So let's celebrate the deep platforming.

00:23:06.500 She said it last week. Deep platforming works. And now you have a member of Congress

00:23:11.060 platform or fundraising off of the fact that he was pulled off the air. But there are still others

00:23:17.500 like him. So she needs money, you see. And she's not making any bones about it, Matt, because she

00:23:22.520 went out there last week and said the reason he needs to be platform deep platform and that he's so

00:23:26.420 dangerous and others like him is because of incitement. He's guilty of incitement, which is a legal term

00:23:32.560 that what it means is not just I say incendiary things, but like if they're so incendiary, I make

00:23:38.360 people go out instantaneously and commit an act of violence. I don't know if we have that side.

00:23:44.440 Do we have her original side saying it? Yeah, we do. Let's listen to it. Sadi.

00:23:48.520 Do you think media organizations or social media platforms should be accountable for the role

00:23:53.800 for being platforms for incitement?

00:23:56.760 I believe that when it comes to broadcast television like Fox News, these are subject to

00:24:03.080 to federal law, federal regulation in terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't. And when you

00:24:11.080 look at what Tucker Carlson and some of these other folks on Fox do, it is very, very clearly

00:24:17.960 incitement of violence, very clearly incitement of violence. And that is the line that I think we have

00:24:26.440 to be willing to contend with. She has misled 29,000 people between the ages of 25 and 54.

00:24:34.460 It's unforgivable, Matt. Yeah, I mean, she's confused, obviously. You know, anybody in journalism,

00:24:42.640 you know, we're acquainted with the basic legal precedents of our profession. When she talks about

00:24:48.820 incitement of violence, the case there that that we all have to learn is Brandenburg v. Ohio. And the

00:24:54.740 standard is imminent incitement to imminent lawless action, which is an incredibly high bar. And the

00:25:01.800 judges in that court, who incidentally were all liberal heroes, right? Like, you know, that was the

00:25:07.000 age, you know, of the Supreme Court that gave us, you know, things like Miranda rights and, you know,

00:25:13.460 all these things that are celebrated or at least once were by due process living liberals.

00:25:19.200 They intentionally made the bar very high to outlaw speech, because they wanted us to talk about

00:25:26.000 things as much as we could. And the thing that's striking to me as, you know, a lifetime sort of

00:25:31.540 ACLU liberal is that people like AOC are the exact opposite of what we claim to be in the 70s, 80s,

00:25:41.940 90s, and 90s, when every single controversy, whether you're talking about, you know, Jerry Fallow versus

00:25:48.180 Hustler, or the PMRC, or the, you know, the NWA being banned from radio stations, or Mapplethorpe photos,

00:25:58.340 we were never the people who wanted to ban people from talking or being artists or doing anything.

00:26:05.460 But now, you know, that script is flipped. And now they want, they want to use the state

00:26:10.460 to get people to stop talking, which is an anathema, I think, to the classical definition.

00:26:17.040 Meanwhile, it's so dishonest. And it's, of course, one sided, hypocritical, but we just pulled just for

00:26:24.440 kicks, some of her incendiary comments and those from her side, which, you know, if we're going to cast

00:26:30.840 the incitement, the fake incitement net, she should take a look right there at home. Watch.

00:26:37.920 When someone doesn't have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot.

00:26:43.000 I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.

00:26:47.080 When they go low, we kick them. That's what this new Democratic Party is about.

00:26:50.800 I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price.

00:27:00.840 You won't know what hit you.

00:27:03.660 You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets.

00:27:05.520 If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline

00:27:13.180 station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them

00:27:20.600 they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.

00:27:24.080 Illegitimate! Illegitimate! Illegitimate!

00:27:30.840 I never heard Tucker Carlson even approach the line of that kind of talk.

00:27:34.920 Yeah, and again, these people have no conception of what the whole principle of freedom of speech

00:27:43.240 is all about.

00:27:43.960 I actually, even though I don't agree in those specific instances, I do agree that the people

00:27:50.180 have a right to, you know, when they feel upset with the government.

00:27:56.640 That's one of the things that's outlined in the First Amendment is our right to petition

00:28:03.280 for redress of grievances.

00:28:04.960 If we think that it's time to maybe overthrow the government or to kick people out of office,

00:28:12.360 we have a right to talk about that.

00:28:13.920 We have a right to say those things.

00:28:15.900 What we don't have a right to do is what Maxine Waters was talking about in that clip.

00:28:20.600 This whole idea of a heckler's veto, of shouting people down, of not letting them speak, of

00:28:26.280 bothering them, you know, when they're eating or something like that, there's a confusion

00:28:30.100 that that's an exercise of free speech.

00:28:32.480 You know, judges have been, you know, very, had very different feelings about that over

00:28:37.600 the course of the years.

00:28:38.880 But that's not in the principle of free expression.

00:28:43.960 This kind of attitude towards speech is basically hypocritical and it lacks any kind of principle

00:28:51.060 behind it, which is what drives me crazy.

00:28:54.380 Yeah.

00:28:54.660 Well, I mean, it's just like the fact that you've got actual politicians celebrating the

00:28:59.680 deplatforming of a major news anchor is troubling.

00:29:02.700 I mean, there's something very off about it.

00:29:04.540 She should be celebrating free speech and the diversity of opinions.

00:29:07.480 But he was her critic.

00:29:08.880 So she likes it.

00:29:10.000 You know, she wants him gone.

00:29:11.320 And she'd like, you know, just like Jen Psaki, the entire conservative ecosphere gone.

00:29:16.760 They don't want it to hear any dissent.

00:29:18.880 And yet and yet, Matt, if you listened to the messaging at the White House Correspondents

00:29:24.900 Center, I'm not going to call it nerd prom anymore.

00:29:26.620 Michael Knowles had a good tweet about this.

00:29:28.000 He was like, it's just the name nerd prom.

00:29:29.960 It's their own name for themselves as though they're the smart ones.

00:29:32.500 And they're not.

00:29:33.400 They are not the smart ones.

00:29:35.200 Only nerds get to call themselves smart.

00:29:36.880 I'm out there talking in the most sanctimonious terms about their mission and how they fulfill

00:29:44.900 it.

00:29:45.300 It's just like they toil away.

00:29:47.640 You were actually the first person I thought of when I heard NPR's Tamara Keith, who's the

00:29:51.980 president of the White House Correspondents Association, speaking about the press and what

00:29:56.260 it does.

00:29:57.100 Because I read your substack and I knew I know what your feelings on this.

00:29:59.960 But listen to her to describe how they operate in Washington under this president.

00:30:05.180 This is also a challenging time for our country.

00:30:07.700 People are choosing their news in part based on what they want to hear.

00:30:11.720 And this makes us all vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

00:30:15.220 There is something uniquely American about the fact that we can all be here together.

00:30:21.060 And then these reporters can go out on Monday and do stories about these very same politicians

00:30:27.920 that pull no punches.

00:30:30.040 We represent the American people.

00:30:33.160 Sure, Jan.

00:30:36.280 I added that last part.

00:30:39.060 I could tell.

00:30:40.360 No, obviously, it's ridiculous.

00:30:43.960 I mean, the idea that they're pulling no punches and that they aren't a big insiders club that

00:30:53.460 all loves being behind the rope line together and is protective of one another, it's preposterous.

00:31:00.880 And this is symbolized by this news story, by a couple of recent news stories.

00:31:05.400 One, by the prepared questions that we see, you know, Joe Biden reportedly having in, you

00:31:13.780 know, the L.A. Times has denied that they gave the question in advance.

00:31:17.760 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:31:18.420 Let me just interrupt you one second, because we have to get.

00:31:20.300 I love your reporting on both of these stories that the L.A.

00:31:23.600 Times allegedly giving Biden the question in advance.

00:31:25.800 And then the second one is what's happening with that disinformation letter from the so-called

00:31:29.620 intelligence experts, which we've learned a lot on, which I did not manage to get to

00:31:33.380 last week, given all the media news.

00:31:34.940 But I want you to talk about both of them.

00:31:36.580 Let me squeeze in a quick break.

00:31:37.600 We'll do that.

00:31:38.220 And I also want to get to Chrissy Teigen treating this like it was the Oscars and the Emmys all

00:31:44.820 wrapped up into one with her servants carrying her trailing dress behind her.

00:31:49.400 So much to do.

00:31:50.180 Quick break.

00:31:50.660 Right back with Matt.

00:31:55.440 OK, so this independent press, which is committed to holding, speaking truth to power and holding

00:32:01.620 the powerful to account, has utterly ignored the one story about this, these intel experts

00:32:08.320 and how they exactly got together to write that letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop was

00:32:12.300 Russian disinformation.

00:32:13.120 They believed they've utterly ignored that.

00:32:16.460 And they've been caught in the act coordinating the White House with the White House.

00:32:21.140 In fact, both of these stories are about them getting caught in the act coordinating with

00:32:24.400 the White House.

00:32:24.960 Let's start with a smaller one that's easy to understand.

00:32:27.120 First, the L.A. Times very much looks like it submitted the question it wanted to ask

00:32:33.680 President Biden directly to President Biden prior to his presser with the South Korean

00:32:40.760 president.

00:32:41.480 And we know that because we saw a picture of the president holding a memo, a piece of paper

00:32:47.500 with the reporter's picture and the question written out when she was called on by same

00:32:54.620 president. She asked a question very similar to the one that was written down.

00:32:59.260 It was not verbatim the same.

00:33:01.180 But how did he know that specific angle would be the one she take on that specific subject?

00:33:07.600 How did his press corps figure it out?

00:33:10.160 His press people.

00:33:11.760 The L.A. Times says, we don't know.

00:33:13.600 We didn't submit the question in advance.

00:33:17.760 What did you submit?

00:33:19.020 Did you submit the topic?

00:33:20.200 Did you give an idea of the angle?

00:33:23.140 Because miraculously, Karine Jean-Pierre, who is nobody's idea of a Mensa member, somehow

00:33:29.120 figured it out.

00:33:30.420 Your thoughts, I'm at.

00:33:32.500 Well, this just speaks to the overall problem of media titles not treating each other as

00:33:39.620 competitors anymore and acting more like a cartel.

00:33:42.500 Well, the reason you wouldn't have gotten away with this in the past is that if the White

00:33:48.600 House tried to ask all of the members of the White House press corps to submit their

00:33:52.800 questions in advance, at least one of them would have finked on the rest of them and

00:33:57.800 said, you know, all of these newspapers are submitting their questions in advance, and

00:34:03.060 that's why they're getting called on.

00:34:04.260 Um, what this shows, I think, is that there's solidarity inside the White House press room.

00:34:11.460 And look, I've been in that press room, and I don't remember them ever asking me for questions

00:34:16.680 in advance.

00:34:17.280 So this must be a relatively new phenomenon.

00:34:20.160 But for nobody to tell on the other members of the press corps that they're doing this is

00:34:27.620 a total violation of the relationship with audiences.

00:34:30.940 Because, again, these reporters want to be stars.

00:34:34.560 They're not looking to be star reporters.

00:34:38.060 They want to be called on so they can see their face on camera.

00:34:42.040 And by the way, the reason you've never been approached, I'm sure, is because they didn't

00:34:45.380 think you'd be a lapdog.

00:34:46.640 This reporter should be so insulted that they looked at her and said, she'll she'll lapdog

00:34:50.820 dog it.

00:34:51.520 She'll let's go to her.

00:34:52.780 And by the way, the fact that she didn't deny it and she just denied it through the L.A.

00:34:56.360 Times is PR hack is an embarrassment to her.

00:35:00.080 She if that had been me, you we would have been out there saying, hell no, how they figured

00:35:04.660 it out.

00:35:05.140 That's their business.

00:35:05.940 But nothing.

00:35:06.960 I gave them not the topic, not a hint, not the question.

00:35:10.620 Absolutely nothing.

00:35:12.020 She hasn't said that.

00:35:12.980 And there's a reason I would submit to our audience.

00:35:16.100 All right.

00:35:16.620 Let's talk about this other story now, because what happened was these House Republicans who

00:35:20.680 have been just on it and doing really interesting things over there, decided to call in Mike

00:35:27.520 Morrell, who was who formerly was high up in the CIA and and questioned him.

00:35:33.820 And he is the one, as I understand it, who revealed that it was Anthony Blinken, who was

00:35:39.260 then at the top of the Biden campaign that contacted him and said, hey, wouldn't it be

00:35:47.580 great if you and a bunch of other former CIA and intel types got a letter together saying the

00:35:54.060 Hunter Biden laptop is bullshit?

00:35:57.160 It's on the record.

00:35:58.280 And Morrell testified to Congress.

00:36:00.000 And I did it because I wanted Joe Biden to win.

00:36:03.200 It's a former Bush guy.

00:36:04.460 He didn't.

00:36:04.740 He's one of those more establishment Republicans.

00:36:06.320 He didn't want Trump.

00:36:07.640 And Morrell testified to that in front of Congress, saying it was Joe Biden's top campaign

00:36:11.580 guy, Blinken, who asked me to do it.

00:36:14.400 I was only too happy to coordinate with him.

00:36:16.900 And that's how that letter came about directly from Team Biden, orchestrated by the guy who's

00:36:22.180 now secretary of state.

00:36:24.040 The media has done a total blackout of the story.

00:36:29.780 It's kind of an amazing story.

00:36:31.660 Michael Morrell, as you mentioned, he's the former acting head of the CIA.

00:36:36.320 He would have been Hillary Clinton's CIA chief, almost certainly.

00:36:41.440 He played a very important role in Russiagate, which is another kettle of fish we could get

00:36:48.000 into some other time.

00:36:49.380 But in this instance, what he was asked by Jim Jordan in the Weaponization of Government

00:36:56.360 Committee, essentially is, would you have organized this group letter calling the Hunter Biden

00:37:02.540 story and saying that it has the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation?

00:37:08.340 Would you have done that absent a phone call from Anthony Blinken?

00:37:12.260 And Morrell says, no.

00:37:16.160 And when Jordan said, so that triggered it, he said, yes.

00:37:21.640 So that's a very, very important piece of information.

00:37:24.580 We don't have the whole transcript, but that tells you that this wouldn't have happened without

00:37:28.200 the call from Blinken.

00:37:30.740 Then he says, well, why did you do it?

00:37:32.540 Because I wanted him to win.

00:37:33.800 And so here you have the secretary of state who's involved basically in a massive disinformation

00:37:41.380 operation.

00:37:42.240 Because remember, this was a lie.

00:37:44.040 This is five former heads of the CIA and 45 other former intelligence officials saying

00:37:50.180 that this thing that came from a computer repair store owner was a Russian information

00:37:57.560 operation.

00:37:58.240 They foisted that on the public, you know, at a key point of an election campaign.

00:38:04.720 And I think it's a major conspiracy.

00:38:07.320 And it's the total blackout in the media about this.

00:38:10.720 They're not interested at all.

00:38:12.220 These same people who really, they can party with the president on Saturday and then speak

00:38:17.380 truth to power on Monday.

00:38:19.360 Well, there's absolutely no evidence of that.

00:38:22.720 You know, this woman who we played, Tamara Keith, president of the White House Correspondents

00:38:25.560 Association of NPR, actually said, you know, we are the representatives of the people.

00:38:30.500 And all I could think was, which people?

00:38:33.140 You're certainly not representatives of the right half of the country, the people in the

00:38:36.760 center of the country, or even the people usually on the center left.

00:38:40.680 You know, you describe yourself as somebody who is a lifelong liberal.

00:38:42.940 The reason they're losing people like you is because they're totally abandoning liberal

00:38:47.900 principles.

00:38:49.240 RFK Jr.

00:38:50.080 still says he's a liberal, but he doesn't identify with these people at all.

00:38:52.900 Alan Dershowitz still says he's a liberal, but he doesn't understand or

00:38:55.420 identify with his party.

00:38:56.660 So this person does not represent the people.

00:38:59.480 She represents the far left of one party.

00:39:02.700 And that's the problem.

00:39:05.120 Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if I would necessarily call it left because they're pretty

00:39:09.260 quiet about things that happen to the actual left, too.

00:39:12.580 I mean, we reported in the Twitter files about, you know, people like Jill Stein and WikiLeaks

00:39:19.240 and the suppression of their speech.

00:39:21.220 And nobody seems particularly interested in those cases either.

00:39:23.600 I think these are this is a new sort of just proto authoritarian wing of the Democratic

00:39:29.300 Party.

00:39:29.980 Their their ideology is basically just that they want to stay in power by any means necessary.

00:39:36.180 They are they've completely abandoned civil liberties and due process and all the things

00:39:42.020 that we used to take such pride in on that side of the aisle.

00:39:45.580 And I just don't recognize it.

00:39:48.060 It's completely different from my vision of what the Democratic Party and liberalism used

00:39:53.440 to be.

00:39:54.640 Well, meanwhile, the president gets up there and openly mocks them because he never takes

00:39:58.340 their questions.

00:39:59.380 Yes, he had a brief presser last week under enormous pressure from everybody to actually

00:40:02.740 speak.

00:40:03.800 But he never does it.

00:40:05.120 He's at a record low in terms of his questions with reporters versus all other presidents.

00:40:09.500 In fact, it's to the point where Kareem Jean-Pierre was actually bragging recently that he takes

00:40:15.960 a lot of shouted questions.

00:40:17.300 We got to play this.

00:40:18.000 I've been meaning to get to it.

00:40:19.000 Sot seven quickly.

00:40:21.000 So I'll say this.

00:40:22.160 It is also unprecedented that a president takes as many shouted questions as this president

00:40:26.560 has.

00:40:27.280 And he has.

00:40:27.780 OK, well, we'll we'll get we'll we'll certainly we'll certainly get the data and share that

00:40:36.800 with all of you.

00:40:38.000 Oh, my God.

00:40:39.020 Even they had to openly mock it.

00:40:41.340 It takes more shouted questions.

00:40:44.020 OK, so what does Biden do?

00:40:45.680 He gets up there and he openly mocked them.

00:40:48.500 This is Sot five.

00:40:50.740 A lot of ways this dinner sums up my first two years in office.

00:40:53.980 I'll talk for 10 minutes, take zero questions and cheerfully walk away.

00:41:02.600 They're all cheering that.

00:41:06.160 How embarrassing.

00:41:08.020 This is why we can't call them nerd prom, because they're not smart.

00:41:12.180 It's it's incredible.

00:41:13.620 I mean, this started back in the Trump years.

00:41:15.880 Remember when Jim Acosta, you know, was gesticulating and raising such alarm about potentially losing

00:41:22.840 White House privileges.

00:41:25.100 And then, you know, my reaction to that was who cares if you lose your White House privileges?

00:41:28.780 You're outside the gates anyway.

00:41:30.260 Just do the reporting, you know, without the privileges.

00:41:34.040 You'll you can do the same job.

00:41:35.760 But to these people, that's not the important thing.

00:41:38.240 The important thing is being inside the rope line, being able to put on that tuxedo for that

00:41:43.100 dinner and being able to hang out after work with all these people you're reporting on,

00:41:48.280 because culturally they're the same people.

00:41:50.040 That was not always the case with reporters.

00:41:52.740 There was an adversarial relationship at one time, and it's gone now.

00:41:56.780 Oh, my God.

00:41:57.160 So that leads me to some of the parties around the White House Correspondents Dinner and how

00:42:01.200 gross those are.

00:42:02.260 That's another opportunity to get these muckety muck politicians to come to your pre-party

00:42:06.080 or your post-party as a news organization.

00:42:08.940 One of them, CBS's Robert Costa, came out, went to this woman, Tammy Haddad, has a garden

00:42:15.880 brunch every year around the White House Correspondents Dinner.

00:42:18.780 And guess who was there?

00:42:20.540 Anthony Fauci, of course, written up as I can't remember who wrote this.

00:42:26.900 I was from Vanity Fair, wrote this.

00:42:28.700 She writes, I went over to this party and there was Dr. Anthony Fauci making do in the low 60s

00:42:33.320 weather with the turtleneck under his Oxford shirt.

00:42:36.580 CBS's Robert Costa says, as long as the dinner and the festivities have a focus on journalism

00:42:43.320 and on the First Amendment, I'm comfortable attending.

00:42:47.860 I'm comfortable going as long as the focus is on the big J, Matt.

00:42:52.360 OK, sure.

00:42:53.680 And then you go over just describing Politico says its party featured cypress trees and a

00:42:59.680 stone fountain.

00:43:00.680 They do an exclamation point behind their own stone fountain shipped in from Italy, limoncello

00:43:06.600 and Aperol spritz bars and a Politico branded Vespa.

00:43:10.940 So exciting, Politico, how you spent all of your subscribers money so you could feel self-important.

00:43:17.400 And they go on to say that at the vanity or at the Crooked Media Party, this is the former

00:43:22.540 Obama guys who do that Pod Saves America podcast.

00:43:27.220 They write that it was so popular, not everyone could get in.

00:43:32.120 This did not go over well with Susan Rice, the president's outgoing top domestic policy

00:43:37.880 advisor, who, when politely turned away, politely replied, no, it wasn't long before

00:43:44.720 someone came and got rice and then explained to the guy who was working the door, we've

00:43:48.900 got some VIPs.

00:43:50.560 Love it.

00:43:51.160 One of the three guys who I just mentioned said to the reporter, there's capacity and

00:43:56.100 then there's D.C. capacity.

00:44:00.140 Among those who made it inside were MSNBC's Mehdi Hassan, who was earning praise for his

00:44:07.220 Matt Taibbi interview.

00:44:09.420 Matt, I can't.

00:44:10.460 I would like to hate these people.

00:44:12.640 I can't stand them.

00:44:13.680 I can't go to these parties.

00:44:15.340 I can't stomach dealing with them one day longer.

00:44:19.880 Well, and again, it's reflected in the audiences that they're garnering.

00:44:25.920 Look, you have that reaction.

00:44:28.580 It's a natural sort of physical revulsion that you feel at the idea of journalists hobnobbing

00:44:37.060 with the people they're supposed to be covering and hanging out at luxury parties after hours

00:44:44.620 and bragging about their luxury items and that sort of thing.

00:44:48.580 The public is disgusted by behavior like this.

00:44:52.980 They do not want journalists acting like they want to be friends with the people they're

00:44:58.360 covering.

00:44:58.820 They want journalists to see themselves as being on the side of the audience and looking

00:45:04.180 at people in power as potential adversaries.

00:45:07.980 And when they do this stuff, when they advertise this behavior, when they give each other essentially

00:45:14.660 bear hugs on the air, when it's Jen Psaki interviewing AOC, you can't tell who's the government

00:45:22.060 official in the picture.

00:45:24.500 It's repulsive.

00:45:27.580 That's why nobody's watching it.

00:45:29.340 And then they have the temerity to complain about somebody like Tucker Carlson, who is organically

00:45:36.140 getting five times their audience.

00:45:38.260 And why?

00:45:38.960 Because mainly because of the orientation of his show, his audience has no mistake that

00:45:46.000 whose side he's on, they at least believe that Tucker's on their side as opposed to being

00:45:51.200 on the politician's side.

00:45:53.600 And that's the difference.

00:45:54.820 Mm hmm.

00:45:55.400 It was funny.

00:45:56.040 My my old pal, an old producing friend of mine, forwarded me some podcast.

00:46:00.520 I never heard of these people, but they were ripping on me and some others who left Fox

00:46:05.740 is like irrelevant that I they were saying I'm irrelevant.

00:46:08.660 I'm like, literally, I'd never heard of you.

00:46:10.640 I never heard of your podcast last week.

00:46:12.740 Not for nothing.

00:46:13.360 We had the number five podcast in the nation among everything.

00:46:16.940 And the number two news show, second only to The New York Times, is The Daily, which has

00:46:20.440 something like 10 million subscribers.

00:46:22.260 So that's what they'll do.

00:46:24.020 They'll try to say Tucker's irrelevant now that he's not on Fox.

00:46:27.060 I I'm irrelevant, despite the fact that we're crushing it in the digital space.

00:46:30.820 I guess Ben Shapiro is irrelevant to Joe Rogan.

00:46:33.500 Is he irrelevant with his 10 million?

00:46:35.040 OK.

00:46:35.420 All right.

00:46:35.720 If you say so.

00:46:36.600 You know who they think is relevant?

00:46:38.660 Chrissy Teigen.

00:46:39.640 That's who they invited as their big star.

00:46:41.440 We've gone from George Clooney to Chrissy Teigen, who showed up there like she was literally

00:46:46.740 going to the coronation.

00:46:48.620 Here she is with John Legend, her husband.

00:46:50.120 She has, by my count, three minions following her.

00:46:54.560 That's minions in her view, following her holding the dress or the train of her non-existent

00:46:59.540 dress.

00:47:00.200 I can see underwear.

00:47:01.760 OK, I can see London.

00:47:03.700 I see France.

00:47:04.560 I see Chrissy's underpants, which nobody shows underpants at the White House Correspondents

00:47:09.300 Dinner.

00:47:09.780 OK, Chrissy, they just don't do it.

00:47:11.340 And nobody shows up with serfs to carry their train, which there shouldn't be on your White

00:47:16.060 House Correspondents Dinner dress anyway, because it's barely a formal event.

00:47:20.180 The absurdity of this, Matt, it's just in a picture.

00:47:23.940 It's everything wrong.

00:47:24.700 The elitism, the serfs behind her, the self-importance, the aggrandizement of this fake, stupid event.

00:47:33.280 It just tells you everything you need to know.

00:47:37.160 Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:39.300 Yeah, I mean, I was trained by reporters who wouldn't have peed on a politician if they

00:47:45.680 were on fire, you know, and the idea of dressing up and having people carry your skirts behind

00:47:53.940 you as you go to a fancy dress party with the people you're covering, you'd have to drag

00:47:59.520 a really good reporter.

00:48:00.680 And can you imagine Seymour Hersh doing that?

00:48:02.580 I mean, it's ridiculous to even consider the possibility.

00:48:06.900 But that's the this is the new press that we're looking at.

00:48:10.360 And then they wonder why they're not popular.

00:48:12.600 Yeah, it's an absolute humiliation that she tried that hard for the White House Correspondents

00:48:19.140 Dinner.

00:48:19.560 She should be embarrassed.

00:48:21.000 Isn't she a model?

00:48:21.840 You're supposed to be the effortless.

00:48:23.780 You know, here I am just looking amazing.

00:48:25.680 I didn't really have to try.

00:48:26.480 You don't show up with three people holding your train, madam.

00:48:28.900 A lesson.

00:48:29.600 A lesson to those who are going to the Met Gala tonight.

00:48:32.360 You also look like an elitist snob when you show up there with the three people, the servants

00:48:37.180 who are masked and you're not or carrying your train.

00:48:40.880 In any event, we'll have plenty to say about that tomorrow.

00:48:43.280 Matt Taibbi, always a pleasure.

00:48:45.000 Please come back soon.

00:48:46.500 We are going to be back with the founder of Libs of TikTok and more on Tucker.

00:48:50.660 Breaking news there.

00:48:55.120 Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:48:56.720 It seems like everywhere you turn these days, you cannot escape the indoctrination of our

00:49:00.100 children, particularly when it comes to gender and sex, from drag queen story hour at the

00:49:05.600 children's library event to sports, to young women being forced to share spaces with biological

00:49:11.360 men in schools and school locker rooms.

00:49:14.480 My guest now is the creator of one of the most recognizable social media accounts in the world

00:49:19.460 and has been shining a light on these issues for years.

00:49:22.100 Whether you know it or not, she is the reason you know about a lot of these stories, which

00:49:26.120 previously went unreported on.

00:49:28.060 She did it anonymous anonymously until she was infamously doxed by the Washington Post's

00:49:34.460 Taylor Lorenz, who herself complains about being doxed repeatedly and how upsetting it is.

00:49:40.620 Meanwhile, it's literally her bread and butter.

00:49:42.380 Not literally.

00:49:43.380 It's her bread and butter at her professional post.

00:49:46.800 You made her know her best as the creator of Libs of TikTok.

00:49:51.040 Haya Rychik is here and welcome to the show.

00:49:53.500 Hi, Haya.

00:49:54.040 Great to have you.

00:49:55.420 Hi, Megan.

00:49:56.160 So great to be here.

00:49:57.260 Oh, so great to have you.

00:49:59.460 So I know the first time I saw you was on Tucker's show on Fox.

00:50:04.420 It was the first time you showed your face willingly after you'd been outed by Taylor Lorenz.

00:50:09.380 And who could blame you, especially back then, for wanting to report on this stuff anonymously

00:50:12.800 because you're a private citizen at the time and you get a lot of shit.

00:50:16.780 But you decided ultimately to come out and own it.

00:50:19.140 Good for you.

00:50:19.800 And so I'm going to begin with Tucker because there's breaking news on him right now.

00:50:25.020 A couple of things want to tell the audience.

00:50:27.220 We've been updating them on how the backlash against Fox is playing out and the ratings that we now have for Thursday show the I don't know if you want to call it a boycott of his 8 p.m.

00:50:37.460 The 8 p.m. hour continues.

00:50:39.620 They continue to have record low numbers in his spot where Thursday previously Tucker had pulled in 3 million the previous Thursday.

00:50:48.660 The 8 p.m. hour got half that 1.5 million.

00:50:51.420 The week before on Thursday, Tucker had gotten 334,000.

00:50:56.860 This week, this past Thursday, they got 136,000.

00:51:02.300 The only reason they didn't lose to CNN in the demo that night is because Anderson Cooper got a 108,000, which is just these numbers are basement toilet numbers, however you want to look at it.

00:51:17.000 They did lose to MSNBC and they lost to MSNBC the previous nights in the demo as well.

00:51:22.260 So it's not going well for Fox News at 8 p.m. at all, which is the understatement of the year.

00:51:28.360 Meanwhile, Media Matters for America, which I'm sure you know, Haya, its whole existence is to hate on Fox News and now more broadly conservative media, now that Fox doesn't have the monopoly it once did.

00:51:40.240 Media Matters for America releases another mysterious outtake of Tucker on set speaking frankly.

00:51:51.440 This happened last week.

00:51:52.500 Two videos were released, oh, by whomever could it be, Irina, to the New York Times saying one in one he called a woman yummy.

00:52:02.200 We have zero idea of the context.

00:52:04.260 It could have been his wife for all I know.

00:52:05.640 Zero idea.

00:52:06.540 And one he said something like, well, my postmenopausal audience still find it.

00:52:10.240 Me attractive in this outfit.

00:52:11.700 Meanwhile, when I reported this last week, all of my postmenopausal viewers, because I have a lot of them, wrote in like, yes, and none of us is offended by that, even in the least.

00:52:20.000 Like, so nice try, Fox, but you tried and failed.

00:52:23.060 So they first leaked to the New York Times.

00:52:25.140 This is my supposition for the for the record.

00:52:27.960 It hasn't been yet confirmed, but I know it's them.

00:52:29.660 And I know it's Irina Briganti who runs comms and fucking hates Tucker.

00:52:32.440 Sorry.

00:52:32.960 She hates his guts.

00:52:34.440 And it's mutual.

00:52:35.320 He doesn't like her either.

00:52:36.960 None of us do.

00:52:37.500 Nobody likes Irina.

00:52:38.580 Um, now another I mean, if you want to go farther left from the New York Times, you'd have to go to Media Matters for America.

00:52:44.820 And they, without comment, post the following bit of Tucker complaining about what a hot mess Fox Nation is on his set.

00:52:53.440 He's not on the air.

00:52:54.040 And he's taught they're trying to get him to, like, dress differently for this interview.

00:52:57.940 And he doesn't want to do it.

00:52:59.020 He's kind of asking why we should be prioritizing his dress and his interview for the Fox Nation situation, as opposed to his primetime show, which he wants to dress for.

00:53:08.640 Here's part of the exchange.

00:53:09.740 I don't want to be a slave to Fox Nation, which I don't think that would be able to watch anyway.

00:53:15.500 But nobody's going to watch it on Fox Nation.

00:53:17.860 Nobody watches Fox Nation because the site sucks.

00:53:20.700 So I'd really like to just put the dump the whole thing on YouTube.

00:53:23.220 Um, but anyway, that's just my view.

00:53:27.000 Um, uh, I'm just frustrated with the, it's hard to use that site.

00:53:33.240 I don't know why they're not fixing it.

00:53:35.200 It's driving me insane.

00:53:36.400 We're like working like animals to produce all this content and the people in charge of it, whoever that guy's, whatever his name is, like they're ignoring the fact that the site doesn't work.

00:53:45.700 And it's, I think it's like a betrayal of our efforts.

00:53:48.780 That's how I feel.

00:53:49.480 So I, of course I resent it.

00:53:51.060 All right.

00:53:52.600 So let me tell you what this is about.

00:53:54.200 Uh, I was talking with Melissa Francis who came on this show last week and a long time Fox vet too.

00:53:59.400 We talked about how the mission now has to be Tucker's audience.

00:54:03.480 Can't go with him.

00:54:04.380 These numbers at 8 PM are disaster for Fox and Tucker cannot go to Newsmax, which has offered him big numbers.

00:54:12.560 According to reports, they Newsmax would love to have Tucker just move, slide on over to 8 PM.

00:54:17.900 And unlike digital media, it would allow him to remain live, which I know Tucker really likes.

00:54:22.840 And there would be some reasons to do that.

00:54:25.540 I could see why Tucker would say yes to that.

00:54:27.880 I'm sure they're finding ways to open the bank account in new ways for Tucker.

00:54:30.600 But you see, that's a threat to Fox.

00:54:33.340 That actually is a real threat to Fox.

00:54:34.960 And so what we have to telegraph to Chris Ruddy, who owns Newsmax and any other potential employer, is Tucker's, he's difficult.

00:54:41.840 He's not a team player.

00:54:43.040 He rips on you from the inside.

00:54:44.440 You see, he calls women allegedly the C word in his private messages, which were never meant to see the light of day.

00:54:50.040 We need to police the way you think.

00:54:51.520 Now, you see, even on your private time, he he says bad things about the company's digital offerings.

00:54:56.800 And by the way, at Newsmax, their digital offering is their strongest brand.

00:55:00.480 That's where they make their money, their digital brand.

00:55:02.680 So you see, he's a hassle.

00:55:05.000 He's a difficult employee.

00:55:06.780 He's not a team player.

00:55:08.160 He rips on you from the inside.

00:55:09.980 This is all an orchestrated hit job, in my opinion.

00:55:14.340 And it's not a subtle one.

00:55:15.920 It's not enough to fire you, Haya.

00:55:18.440 You must be destroyed.

00:55:19.600 And it doesn't matter how nice a guy you were, how many points you put on the board for the channel, that you brought us through the Trump years, that you were number one in your time slot, that you haven't said one negative word about us.

00:55:30.900 You will be destroyed to settle some angry, bitter internal PR hacks, personal vendetta against you.

00:55:39.260 And if she managed to convince the bosses, the Murdochs, that he's not good for them either, that he may have called them a name or two, so much the better, because they're the ones who make the final decisions.

00:55:49.880 That's what I think is going on here.

00:55:51.340 Your thoughts on all of it?

00:55:52.820 Yeah, I mean, I think it definitely feels like a very coordinated effort to silence him and to take him down.

00:55:59.200 And the reason is simply because he tells the truth, right, that he says the things that no one else in the media will say.

00:56:05.540 He asked the questions that no one else will ask.

00:56:07.540 And I think that's why they're all coordinating to take him down.

00:56:10.600 All of a sudden we have his private text messages.

00:56:12.880 We have these secret new, you know, unearthed video footage of him saying these things.

00:56:18.860 It does feel like a lot of people are conspiring together to to silence him.

00:56:24.440 Mm hmm.

00:56:24.840 And now you get ridiculous pieces like the one from Brian Stelter, who, you know, was formerly on CNN and lost his job because it it was a terrible, terrible show that he was running.

00:56:37.000 Uh, at CNN that literally nobody watched.

00:56:39.500 He writes a piece saying Tucker and Don Lemon are texting one another.

00:56:45.340 Now, let me tell you how I'm just going to guess this happened with no actual firsthand knowledge of it.

00:56:50.100 They're both being represented by my lawyer, Brian Friedman, because he's a pit bull and he's awesome because their media personalities and dogfights with their companies who have all the power.

00:56:59.420 And so they're trying to find a power broker to represent them.

00:57:02.120 And I guarantee you, Don Lemon said to Brian Friedman, do you have Tucker's number?

00:57:07.020 I'm going to shoot him a text, you know, solidarity.

00:57:09.100 They both got there's zero chance.

00:57:10.340 Tucker ever asked Brian Friedman for it's number zero and Tucker being the gentleman he is.

00:57:15.340 I'm sure received the text and they had a word or two about both getting fired and how disgusting our industry is.

00:57:19.100 That's fine.

00:57:19.540 But Brian Stelter actually reports this like they're now doing each other's hair in braids and is having sleepovers and, you know, doing seances together.

00:57:29.140 Light as a feather, stiff as a board.

00:57:30.320 And and actually goes on to speculate that they may actually star.

00:57:41.780 This is his speculation.

00:57:42.720 He owns it, but he says it may sound crazy, but I'm going to write it anyway.

00:57:46.320 Could the two men team up?

00:57:48.040 I can imagine some hotshot producer selling a new crossfire like it's for the good of the republic that these two.

00:57:56.740 I mean, you've got why don't we just get speaking of George Clooney?

00:58:00.380 Why don't we get George Clooney in some community theater loser to pair up?

00:58:03.740 Because that's the imbalance of power between those two.

00:58:06.920 He's insane.

00:58:08.040 Tucker would destroy him.

00:58:11.540 Can you imagine?

00:58:12.640 And then for good measure, he goes on, Brian Stelter, to talk about how for Lemon, Hollywood may be calling.

00:58:21.220 Actually, there's no need to couch that.

00:58:22.800 Multiple producers and development execs have put in feelers to Lemon's agent, Jay Suarez of the United Talent Agency.

00:58:31.440 OK, that's a lie.

00:58:32.720 Let me tell you something, Brian Stelter.

00:58:34.180 You've been lied to by Jay Suarez.

00:58:36.060 Jay Suarez is an agent who wants to create a false buzz about his fired no one wants him client.

00:58:43.440 So he lied to you.

00:58:44.420 And your job as a member of the media, even if it's a press, a press cover media, a media reporter, is to see through the bullshit and know when you are being spun by an agent who are the most dishonest, disreputable people anywhere near our industry.

00:59:01.800 But he printed that Hollywood is calling with multiple producers and development execs putting in feeler.

00:59:08.200 And here's I got to forgive me, add this.

00:59:10.800 He goes on to say Lemon's friends have pointed to his all too brief talk show on CNN Plus as a path forward.

00:59:21.500 Only two episodes of The Don Lemon Show were produced before the streaming service was discontinued.

00:59:28.180 But he was visibly energized and in his element with a studio audience.

00:59:33.260 OK, but so many things wrong with your analysis there, Brian.

00:59:37.860 There's a reason CNN Plus had no one subscribed.

00:59:41.760 And it wasn't that they were flocking to Don Lemon's new talk show.

00:59:45.700 So this is this is what passes for analysis because Don's on the left.

00:59:50.340 So Hollywood, he rocked his two episodes, build him up.

00:59:54.340 And then Tucker, who is evil, must be destroyed.

00:59:57.360 And his comments about Tucker, by the way, is covering Carlson's rise and radicalization at Fox, sometimes for Lemon's CNN show, convinced me that he is a Father Coughlin's like figure who will always find a pulpit to preach from.

01:00:12.220 So just for good measure, Lemon's going to Hollywood.

01:00:14.220 Everybody wants him, even though everything he's touched has turned to shit.

01:00:17.560 And Tucker is a white, racist, anti-Semite whose show makes very clear he's a demon.

01:00:23.640 And thank God he's off.

01:00:26.680 I think Brian Stelter is living in an alternate reality.

01:00:30.900 I mean, just the fact that it's Brian Stelter who says that, obviously, you have to take it with a grain of salt because his track record shows that he also would, you know, he starred in CNN Plus, which lasted just a couple of weeks.

01:00:43.520 And I don't think he's always truthful.

01:00:46.280 So I would not take anything Brian Stelter says seriously.

01:00:50.780 I think Tucker knows that as well.

01:00:53.000 But yeah, I mean, that's definitely not happening.

01:00:56.460 Tucker is not even comparable to Don Lemon.

01:00:59.920 I mean, it would obviously bring him down to work with Don Lemon.

01:01:03.360 And I think you're right.

01:01:04.500 I don't think Hollywood is calling on Don Lemon.

01:01:06.100 I think I think I think he's done.

01:01:08.560 I mean, nobody wants him.

01:01:10.480 He's not talented.

01:01:12.900 His CNN Plus thing was a disaster.

01:01:15.480 And I don't think he's I don't think he's going to Hollywood.

01:01:18.560 No, no.

01:01:19.160 Hollywood mocked him at the Oscars.

01:01:21.200 He was openly mocked by the best actress winner at the Oscars during her acceptance speech for his your past your prime.

01:01:28.020 And when you when you pass 40, not to mention people like Anna Quinlan, who ripped on his ridiculous comments on women, all the people at CNN who he insulted are lefties.

01:01:38.320 The people who wanted him kicked out of CNN are lefties.

01:01:41.340 He has no purchase on the left or the right.

01:01:45.000 Hollywood's not calling.

01:01:46.360 It was a lie.

01:01:47.660 Jay Suarez, I see what you're doing.

01:01:49.820 It's not going to work.

01:01:51.760 Let's show me the talk show, buddy.

01:01:53.440 Let's see the talk show.

01:01:54.880 OK, we'll see.

01:01:56.240 I'll wait.

01:01:57.060 I won't hold my breath on the flip side.

01:01:59.560 There is going to be, I think, probably a really big announcement regarding Tucker soon, because Tucker is obviously very talented, very beloved.

01:02:07.400 And he's going to obviously go very far.

01:02:10.840 And it's just a matter of time till there's some kind of announcement, I think.

01:02:15.060 I mean, what do you think?

01:02:16.460 I absolutely think you're right.

01:02:18.220 And but, you know, right now he's still under contract to Fox.

01:02:20.700 This is what they do.

01:02:21.780 They didn't fire him.

01:02:22.600 They just canceled his show and canceled all of his access to internal email, et cetera.

01:02:27.020 And now you see they've got him on the line.

01:02:29.540 Now he still has to abide by his contract.

01:02:31.460 And if he breaches it, they don't have to pay him out his deal, which The Wall Street Journal, which is owned by the same parent company as Fox,

01:02:36.660 reports was near $20 million.

01:02:39.320 So, yes, Tucker is independently wealthy, but $20 million is $20 million.

01:02:44.660 And reportedly he had a year and a half left on his deal.

01:02:46.600 So that's $30 million.

01:02:48.480 So they're going to try to bait him into breaching, bait him into responding.

01:02:52.800 He's not allowed to speak out against Fox News right now.

01:02:55.100 I'm sure there's a non disparagement in his agreement.

01:02:56.840 So if he can just get him to disparage, they don't have to pay him the $30 million and they can fire him officially for free.

01:03:03.160 They don't have to put you on the air, but they do have to pay you your money when you sign these deals.

01:03:08.340 And so they've got him right where they want him right now.

01:03:10.300 That's why Brian Friedman is trying to negotiate the exit and the terms and the, you know, whatever.

01:03:15.920 I'm sure they're going to want a non disparagement post employment.

01:03:19.200 So Tucker will likely be limited in what he can say publicly if he wants that $30 million.

01:03:22.900 But he will wrap it up and he will get another job and we will certainly find ways of figuring out what exactly happened, what his experience was, whether they want us to or not.

01:03:32.600 I just have to say this to me while the Murdochs need to be honest with the audience about why they canned their number one star.

01:03:39.460 They're so disrespectful to their own audience.

01:03:42.900 Tell them why you pulled the rug out from under him.

01:03:45.840 Stop letting your PR jackal ruin the guy who served you honorably for several years.

01:03:52.740 Don't be a bunch of sissies who don't have the balls to just say why you got rid of him.

01:03:58.240 Stand by your reasoning and let us know one way or the other why they're not doing that, why they're letting him twist in the wind, why they're doing the death by a thousand cuts.

01:04:06.040 I don't know, but it's really gross.

01:04:09.040 It's dishonorable.

01:04:09.960 Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

01:04:12.840 And there's so many they're letting these conspiracies brew on social media about Tucker and about the reason.

01:04:19.540 And I mean, I personally haven't shared any of these conspiracies just because I don't know what's true and what's not.

01:04:24.640 And everyone is just waiting for answers and they have to provide that.

01:04:28.820 Maybe there's a great reason.

01:04:30.120 Maybe they have one.

01:04:31.140 Maybe it'll be such a good reason.

01:04:33.000 Even you and I will say, all right, we get it.

01:04:34.800 You know, we like Tucker, but yeah, an employer will probably get rid of you, you know, under those circumstances.

01:04:39.960 They haven't had the courtesy to say.

01:04:42.980 And this is well beyond, well, we don't want to say because if we get sued, we want to maintain our options.

01:04:46.640 Bullshit.

01:04:47.140 We are well past that.

01:04:48.720 Tucker doesn't have the right to sue for anything more than what's in his contract.

01:04:52.420 And, you know, if they keep going with the defamation, he might.

01:04:55.800 He actually might.

01:04:57.320 That's something they should consider.

01:04:59.060 But the point is, this isn't about, oh, we shouldn't say the reason.

01:05:02.460 They owe it to their audience to say the reason.

01:05:04.560 They owe it to Tucker to say the reason.

01:05:05.940 And they think it just shows that there is no reason.

01:05:08.480 Because if there was a real reason, I think a lot of us are very honest and we would, like you said, we would say, okay, that makes sense.

01:05:15.920 But the fact that they're not getting a reason tells me that there's no reason.

01:05:20.600 Or it's a reason that's going to upset their base.

01:05:22.820 Right.

01:05:23.380 Right.

01:05:23.860 I'm saying there's no valid, legit, real reason.

01:05:26.320 Yeah.

01:05:27.000 I mean, if it's we were sick of him, you know, saying the things we didn't like that got us in trouble with the left press and got ad boycotts, the Fox audience is going to revolt even more.

01:05:37.440 They're not going to like that's what they're suspecting right now.

01:05:39.900 So if it was, you know, he called Rupert a prick.

01:05:43.200 I don't know what he said in those texts.

01:05:44.920 Just tell us that people look at that.

01:05:47.440 It would make them look thin skinned.

01:05:49.060 But whatever.

01:05:49.840 People say, I don't like it.

01:05:51.240 You should have been thicker skin than that.

01:05:52.520 But I get it.

01:05:53.500 It's your lemonade stand.

01:05:54.880 And you didn't like somebody fronting it who couldn't stand you.

01:05:58.980 We would understand that they haven't done that.

01:06:00.980 We don't know that that's what it is.

01:06:02.200 And it's annoying how they just trying there.

01:06:04.580 Now they're just trying to ruin him.

01:06:05.980 All right.

01:06:06.100 Let's turn the page.

01:06:07.880 And I do think it's great.

01:06:09.120 Like, I think that the problem with losing Tucker is he was one of the first people who started to front your material and put you on and didn't care about blowback.

01:06:17.780 I mean, he's a one man show and how not to care about blowback.

01:06:21.740 And we need more.

01:06:23.060 We need more like him and like you, like you, because you've really found you're you're courageous.

01:06:30.020 You found a way to go from like.

01:06:32.540 Private citizen to this culture warrior who's become critical to the national discussion on these issues.

01:06:39.600 So how can you just give it give the audience that doesn't know a little background on how that happened?

01:06:44.560 Well, first of all, thank you.

01:06:46.020 It's very humbling that I'm able to be in this position now to help so many people and to help our country.

01:06:53.340 So I started out.

01:06:54.940 I mean, I never had any job or background in politics or in media or in journalism.

01:07:00.380 I was just working a regular job.

01:07:03.960 And then COVID hit.

01:07:05.620 And obviously, you know, the world was turned upside down.

01:07:08.240 So I'm sitting locked in my home.

01:07:10.900 And that's when I started paying attention to the national conversation.

01:07:15.680 And that's also when I stumbled on TikTok.

01:07:17.580 So at first, I started just posting all of this content about COVID, about Lord Fauci and vaccines, you know, people thinking about getting vaccinated.

01:07:29.400 I just saw it on TikTok.

01:07:30.980 And I was like, this is really funny, really cringy, pretty entertaining.

01:07:34.940 Let me just share it to Twitter.

01:07:36.500 And then the account just started growing a lot.

01:07:40.020 It just started blowing up.

01:07:41.080 People thought it was really funny.

01:07:42.300 So I would go back to TikTok to find more content.

01:07:46.000 And I really spent a lot of time on TikTok.

01:07:48.180 And I discovered this entire section of it, which was basically just dedicated to grooming kids.

01:07:57.940 There's a lot of LGBTQ activists on TikTok in various industries, particularly teachers.

01:08:06.060 But there's doctors, too.

01:08:07.660 There's activists in general.

01:08:08.760 And I saw this whole cultural issue that wasn't really being discussed a lot in depth.

01:08:17.220 And I was like, this is absolutely horrific.

01:08:19.820 And I just knew that I had to start sharing this.

01:08:22.980 I had to educate people.

01:08:24.460 I had to raise awareness.

01:08:25.420 Because I think that a lot of Americans had no idea what was going on in regard to this whole sexual agenda.

01:08:33.360 But also specifically in regard to their kids' classrooms.

01:08:38.020 I think the average parent didn't know.

01:08:41.080 So I jumped in.

01:08:42.360 And I just started sharing all of these videos.

01:08:45.640 And it first had evidence.

01:08:47.080 So they can't deny it.

01:08:50.180 And that combined with parents starting to feel like something was off in school.

01:08:56.900 Just because during COVID, their kid's classroom all of a sudden was in their living room.

01:09:01.700 And they saw what their kids were learning.

01:09:03.100 They saw their kids' teachers.

01:09:04.600 And they were like, wait, something doesn't add up here.

01:09:07.760 And then that's when I came in.

01:09:09.380 I'm showing these teachers.

01:09:10.260 And then I think those two factors combined really just woke up America to the reality of what was going on in our kids' schools.

01:09:18.900 You know what was amazing is the initial blowback against you was, look at you.

01:09:22.360 Like, you're endangering these teachers.

01:09:24.220 You're violating their privacy rights.

01:09:26.000 It's like, they posted it on TikTok.

01:09:30.360 They just didn't think someone like me was going to see them.

01:09:33.220 That was the position you were in.

01:09:34.800 Exactly.

01:09:35.300 I actually have very strict standards for what I post.

01:09:38.980 And I don't post things from private accounts.

01:09:41.780 If I do, very rarely, not TikTok.

01:09:45.080 If I post something from a private account, it's usually like Instagram, I'll block off the username because they're private.

01:09:51.380 So they want their privacy.

01:09:52.860 And this would just be to show just more evidence of what's going on in schools or something.

01:09:57.400 But I actually don't share stuff from private accounts.

01:09:59.680 So these teachers are so proud of what they're doing in the classroom.

01:10:03.520 They're going on TikTok on a public account.

01:10:05.760 And the only reason they're doing it on TikTok is because they want views.

01:10:08.880 They want people to see it.

01:10:09.880 They're really proud of it.

01:10:10.960 And I'm simply sharing it to an audience that they don't want to see it.

01:10:15.180 But, you know, that's not, they can't be upset about it.

01:10:18.460 That's not how social media works.

01:10:20.100 If you put it out on social media, then anyone can see it.

01:10:23.220 So they want to live in their little bubble where only people who agree with them see their content.

01:10:27.960 And, you know, then I come and I share it and then they get mad at me.

01:10:31.520 Right.

01:10:32.000 No, but you're exactly right.

01:10:33.060 They only want to share it with the audience that they think is going to love it.

01:10:35.340 This is actually, I started the show by talking about this hat I wore that reads,

01:10:40.960 make women female again.

01:10:42.840 And I posted on Instagram and those are people, Instagram is nicer than Twitter.

01:10:47.860 And those are people who I have a relationship with who, you know, they like the show.

01:10:50.820 They like me.

01:10:51.440 I like them.

01:10:52.240 We correspond in the comments.

01:10:53.880 I just, you know, it's a good, it's a nice place.

01:10:55.740 And I did say to myself, I post on Twitter.

01:10:57.740 I'm sure it's good.

01:10:58.260 I'm going to get blowback because Twitter's left.

01:11:00.200 And I have a lot of lefties who follow me just because they, a lot of lefties actually

01:11:03.040 watch me and listen to me, believe it or not.

01:11:04.400 Um, and, and, and some are hung over from the NBC and the early Fox days and some are

01:11:09.840 legit and they're because they want to be now, but I don't care.

01:11:13.420 I would love to reach a left-leaning audience with my message.

01:11:16.180 What you find, you know, in my experiences, a lot of them are actually with you.

01:11:20.440 A lot of them are with me, at least when, with my messaging and your messaging and are

01:11:24.520 inspired to hear truth spoken to them by somebody who they know might get hit, but

01:11:29.820 then they see, you know what?

01:11:32.120 It's okay.

01:11:32.640 And if you look at the number of likes and the number of lovers versus the number of

01:11:36.260 haters, the haters are far outnumbered.

01:11:38.640 And then it just empowers you to say more.

01:11:40.640 So if these people really believe their message and if they believe it had widespread appeal,

01:11:44.040 they'd be thanking you.

01:11:46.380 Yeah.

01:11:46.960 I think actually, I believe a large portion of my audience is actually centered, uh, center

01:11:52.360 right, um, Democrats, liberals.

01:11:54.780 So I get messages all the time from these people and they're like, I love what you're doing.

01:11:59.820 Um, some of them tell me I can't follow you because I could get fired from my job or I'll

01:12:04.580 lose friends.

01:12:05.680 Um, but some of them say, you know, I'm a Democrat, but I believe that, you know, they agree with

01:12:09.600 a lot of, of what I'm saying.

01:12:11.720 Um, and it's just scary because you have the far left, which I think is a fringe group, but

01:12:18.600 they're so loud, they're violent and they demand complete and total obedience to their entire

01:12:24.340 agenda.

01:12:24.720 And the second anyone goes out of line, they get called out.

01:12:28.580 They could get canceled.

01:12:29.980 Um, and even people from their own parties.

01:12:31.760 So, so there's a lot of people in the center who actually agree that the way this is the

01:12:36.720 way that the, the, the world's, our country is going right now, um, in terms of this cultural,

01:12:41.800 um, situation, which is targeting kids.

01:12:44.220 They agree that it's really awful, but they're just too scared to speak out about it.

01:12:48.420 Yes.

01:12:48.740 We interviewed a woman who was a marketing executive for a gamer company, a gaming company,

01:12:55.300 and she got the boot in part because she followed libs of Tik TOK.

01:12:59.600 Yes.

01:13:00.140 I remember that.

01:13:01.280 Remember this?

01:13:01.920 It was her private time.

01:13:03.800 She was your, well, I don't even know.

01:13:05.560 They, how did they know she was your fan or not?

01:13:07.040 Or whether she was just saying, let me hear what one side is saying.

01:13:09.820 And then I'll check out what the other side is saying.

01:13:11.860 This person seemed pretty down the middle ideologically, and she got fired just for the follow.

01:13:16.660 Well, they, they have so many rules in place that, um, you know, these are the people who

01:13:24.200 claim to be tolerant and accepting and loving.

01:13:27.140 And then the second you do anything that they don't like, or they don't approve of, you get

01:13:31.220 totally canceled.

01:13:32.340 So, I mean, I follow people who I disagree with politically, you know, that's, I'm not

01:13:36.420 getting called out for that.

01:13:37.560 It's fine.

01:13:38.200 You're allowed to follow whoever you want.

01:13:39.600 Um, but I think that, I do think that this group is, is a fringe.

01:13:44.880 I mean, I like to believe it's a fringe.

01:13:46.620 Um, and I think that we're seeing more and more evidence that it is.

01:13:49.500 And I also think that we are going to, to win.

01:13:54.920 Yeah.

01:13:55.360 I think we're winning right now, by the way, it was called, uh, I think it was, the company

01:14:00.160 was called limited run games.

01:14:02.560 Um, anyway, I spoke to her at one point and she, she told me this.

01:14:05.100 So, um, let me talk to you about some of the stuff that's in the news on, on lives of

01:14:09.080 Tik TOK and elsewhere.

01:14:09.800 And I begin with someone you've called attention to, and that's Dylan Mulvaney, who has now

01:14:15.500 they, Dylan went silent on Dylan's Tik TOK and social media for some three weeks and is

01:14:20.860 now resurfaced.

01:14:22.180 I mean, the, it's just the chutzpah is the word, the chutzpah of this person who tried

01:14:30.720 to become famous as a man and failed, but tried in multiple different ways, then decided

01:14:36.740 to cross over into our lane, declare himself a girl, walk us through his 365 days of girlhood

01:14:44.860 actually did public appearances talking about what it's like to be a girl and have a period

01:14:50.160 made a platform of bringing back the bulge in a girl's bikini.

01:14:56.580 Girls don't have bulges in their bikini anywhere below the navel, sir.

01:15:00.080 They have bulges above, above the midline.

01:15:03.700 Um, this is this person now is lamenting that people only want to talk about the trans

01:15:10.580 thing with Dylan and really just wants to be famous for being Dylan and like not have

01:15:17.600 to talk about gender all the time.

01:15:20.200 Here's a little bit of Dylan resurfacing on that.

01:15:23.100 It's day 9,610 of being a human.

01:15:28.320 I've been offline for a few weeks and a lot has been said about me.

01:15:32.340 Some of which is so far from my truth that I was like hearing my name and I didn't even

01:15:37.280 know who they were talking about sometimes.

01:15:39.180 What I'm struggling with most is that I grew up in a conservative family and I'm extremely

01:15:45.960 privileged because they still love me very much.

01:15:48.400 And I grew up in the church and I still have my faith, which I am really trying to hold

01:15:53.720 on to right now.

01:15:55.680 But I've always tried to love everyone, you know, even the people that make it really,

01:16:00.220 really hard.

01:16:01.000 And going forward, I want to share parts of myself on here that have nothing to do with

01:16:05.360 my identity.

01:16:06.540 And I don't know if reincarnation is a thing, but in my next life, I would love to be someone

01:16:11.520 non-confrontational and uncontroversial.

01:16:14.220 God, that sounds nice.

01:16:15.400 There's just no accountability.

01:16:19.420 It's as if Dylan just surfaced and said, I want to be a woman.

01:16:22.460 Please respect my privacy.

01:16:23.800 And the internet piled on Dylan.

01:16:25.260 That's not that's not how this went down.

01:16:26.860 That's not how Dylan got in the public eye.

01:16:28.980 This is a provocateur who intentionally offends and provokes and then sits back and says,

01:16:34.080 my message is all about love.

01:16:38.780 I first came across Dylan a couple months ago, actually.

01:16:41.700 I might have been one of the first people to post about him.

01:16:45.520 Obviously, he was not as big yet then.

01:16:49.300 But I think there's been a lot of footage I was unearthed about Dylan.

01:16:55.380 And there was some footage from years ago when he was just a gay man.

01:16:59.280 And I think that society failed him because I think that he probably is just a gay man.

01:17:07.440 But what they're doing to kids is basically and to young people is they're basically erasing

01:17:14.840 gay people because you can't just be gay anymore.

01:17:18.960 Right.

01:17:19.080 You have to be transgender.

01:17:21.280 And I think that I really just think it's really, really sad.

01:17:26.080 And I think that there are probably a lot of outside forces that did this to him.

01:17:32.020 At the same time, he is an adult now.

01:17:34.380 And what he's doing now is just absolutely disgusting.

01:17:37.120 There was also a video last week where he called for the arrest of people who misgender him.

01:17:41.140 I mean, what he's doing is he's mocking women.

01:17:47.000 As a woman, it's pretty offensive.

01:17:49.000 It's absolutely disgusting.

01:17:51.040 And I'm actually really just sick of him.

01:17:54.720 I'm so sick of him.

01:17:56.060 I try not to give him any attention anymore because I think it's just feeding him at this point.

01:18:00.860 So I mean, I called out the Bud Light thing.

01:18:04.720 Bud Light wasn't even the worst of it, though.

01:18:06.660 He was sponsored by Tampax.

01:18:08.620 So he's getting sponsored.

01:18:09.560 And now Maybelline, right?

01:18:10.400 Is it Maybelline?

01:18:11.920 Maybelline, too.

01:18:12.700 And Ulta.

01:18:13.420 And Ulta.

01:18:14.420 The Ulta Beauty thing is too much.

01:18:16.180 What happened on Ulta Beauty?

01:18:18.240 I will never go into again.

01:18:19.660 I am not.

01:18:20.260 Sephora is better than you anyway.

01:18:21.940 So it's not a big sacrifice.

01:18:23.280 But it's absolutely disgusting when they had these two men talking about.

01:18:26.900 Weren't they talking about their periods?

01:18:28.420 I mean, it was just absolute absurdity.

01:18:30.540 You don't have a period.

01:18:31.880 You have a penis.

01:18:33.020 The two things ne'er shall meet.

01:18:34.820 Sorry.

01:18:36.580 But that's Ulta Beauty.

01:18:37.960 And then they didn't back down when their customers said, what are you doing?

01:18:40.740 Why are you having two dudes, one of whom had a beard with his long blonde hair and his

01:18:45.460 long fingernails, lecturing women on beauty products and periods?

01:18:49.180 What's happening?

01:18:49.760 It's like, it feels like parody, but it's not.

01:18:54.500 This is the way that our country is going right now.

01:18:58.400 Yeah.

01:18:58.840 They were talking all about their girlhoods.

01:19:00.500 That's what it was.

01:19:02.780 Anne hires a bush, meanwhile.

01:19:04.360 He calls his whatever's in his underwear, I don't know, his Barbie pouch.

01:19:15.920 It's just like, he just keeps mocking women.

01:19:18.140 It's just so gross.

01:19:19.160 What the hell is that?

01:19:19.800 I was thinking about it, you know, now because they're like, I mean, a woman, as Kelly J.

01:19:27.380 Keene would say, a woman is an adult human female.

01:19:29.880 And these women who decide they're going to transition to man, which is not a thing, who

01:19:35.540 go so far as to actually try to get a phallus built by one of these Frankenstein doctors who's

01:19:42.020 willing to do this to a woman, uh, and cut up her vagina and try and cut up her arm and

01:19:47.000 try to make a fake penis.

01:19:48.540 Then they say, well, then she has a penis.

01:19:50.420 So if this person has a penis, it's a man, right?

01:19:52.700 If that's how you do, if you define a man as somebody with a penis and a woman with somebody

01:19:55.760 with a vagina, then, then a woman can become a man.

01:19:58.380 No, we have to be clear when we're talking about these things.

01:20:01.960 A fake vagina is not a vagina.

01:20:05.180 A fake penis is not a penis.

01:20:07.080 They are extremely different things.

01:20:08.700 Let's just take a little wander past the fake hole that a surgeon creates for a woman,

01:20:14.300 one of these fake women.

01:20:16.080 You know what happens?

01:20:16.840 Nothing.

01:20:17.820 You will not bump into a real vulva.

01:20:20.560 You will not bump into ovaries.

01:20:22.340 You will not bump into fallopian tubes.

01:20:24.360 You will not bump into a uterus.

01:20:25.840 They don't exist and they can't be transplanted in and they can't give birth.

01:20:30.880 They can't carry children.

01:20:31.820 They can't do any of those things.

01:20:33.240 Same thing over in the man department.

01:20:35.000 All right.

01:20:35.300 So like none of the things you will not have testicular.

01:20:38.840 Cancer, if you have a fake penis built for you or have any of the concerns that men

01:20:43.220 have to deal with when it comes to their sexual health as well.

01:20:45.960 So I do think we need to start getting more precise in our language.

01:20:48.860 This is why I've been having the debate openly on the show about the pronouns and so on.

01:20:53.180 Dylan, at best, will get a fake vagina if Dylan decides to go that route.

01:20:56.960 But Dylan, in the meantime, has to deal with the consequences of Dylan's own behavior.

01:21:01.040 And one of those things is the partnership with certain brands.

01:21:04.780 The Bud Light one has had massive backlash.

01:21:09.160 Bud Light is in a downward spiral like the Fox News APM.

01:21:12.000 They're in the same predicament right now.

01:21:14.140 And now the Human Rights Campaign, which is this far left organization, is calling on Anheuser

01:21:21.300 Bush to publicly reaffirm its support for the transgender community in the wake up.

01:21:26.680 Remember, they never apologized for this ad campaign.

01:21:30.360 They just said, oh, we never meant to sort of be divisive.

01:21:32.780 That's it.

01:21:33.380 And then they placed on leave of absence the woman who ran the campaign and her boss.

01:21:38.500 They're still employed as far as we know.

01:21:39.960 So they sent a letter to the head of the company's human resources saying it's absolutely critical

01:21:44.720 for Anheuser-Busch to stand in solidarity with Dylan and the trans community.

01:21:50.340 Went on to say, when faced with anti-LGBTQ plus and transphobic criticism, Anheuser-Busch's

01:21:56.540 actions demonstrate a profound lack of fortitude in upholding its values of diversity, equity and

01:22:02.880 inclusion.

01:22:04.040 And now they warn Anheuser-Busch, we are preparing to lower your longstanding 100% corporate

01:22:11.380 equality index score.

01:22:14.240 This national benchmarking tool, so reported in the New York Post not long ago on corporate

01:22:18.720 policies, practices and benefits relevant to the LGBTQ employees.

01:22:22.020 This is the real threat.

01:22:23.300 We're going to make you uninvestable by other companies.

01:22:26.320 We're going to give you a low CEI score.

01:22:30.160 And we're going to punish you for just saying we didn't mean to be divisive and placing the

01:22:37.340 lady on leave.

01:22:38.320 If they cow to this group, it's over.

01:22:40.820 It's over.

01:22:41.520 They can kiss their relationship with all the brands.

01:22:45.260 Goodbye.

01:22:48.440 It's so it's mind boggling that these brands keep falling into the same trap because every

01:22:55.320 time they get so involved in in politics like this, they it always ends up not working out

01:23:01.780 for them.

01:23:02.740 You know, I miss the days and we could just drink a beer or go to the makeup store without

01:23:06.280 having to think if these if these companies are promoting the pseudoscience that's destroying

01:23:11.680 kids.

01:23:12.760 It's like just why can't they just make their beer and sell it and we'll drink the beer and

01:23:16.900 everyone's happy.

01:23:17.560 But no, because they have to show this far, the far left that they are in line with their

01:23:23.680 agenda because they're scared of what the consequences will be.

01:23:27.660 They meanwhile, according to the Daily Mail, Bud Light.

01:23:31.260 Once again, like produce this country themed commercial like America, you know, America,

01:23:37.080 we get it.

01:23:37.560 I mean, they're probably calling Tucker right now to get him to start in their next ad.

01:23:41.500 Not going to happen.

01:23:42.420 And so they post this video on YouTube where they are currently preventing viewers from

01:23:49.740 offering any feedback by disabling the comments so they don't want to hear it.

01:23:56.140 Who the guy who runs this company, this the American CEO is saying I served in the military.

01:24:01.800 Where are your balls?

01:24:03.160 If you served in the U.S.

01:24:04.360 military, you have them.

01:24:05.580 So why don't you show it?

01:24:07.620 Like, get out there and own it.

01:24:09.380 Say you made a mistake.

01:24:10.400 You misjudged your customer base, not you, but your your VP of marketing.

01:24:14.320 You fired her.

01:24:15.500 You've heard from the audience fall on your sword.

01:24:18.320 You're running around with a former military guy disabling comments.

01:24:22.800 Now I really do believe somebody needs to get fired.

01:24:26.020 And it's you, sir.

01:24:27.200 It's you.

01:24:28.440 This has been a disaster from start to finish.

01:24:30.800 And it's ongoing.

01:24:32.740 The wounds continue to be self-inflicted.

01:24:36.360 So I don't know.

01:24:36.980 You've watched a lot of these controversies.

01:24:38.600 Taya, do you think there's a way back for Bud Light?

01:24:44.100 I do, actually.

01:24:45.560 I think that we've seen so many people, companies get canceled.

01:24:52.080 And most of the time, they do it to themselves.

01:24:54.780 So you can't be canceled unless you let yourself be canceled.

01:24:58.520 And what Bud Light's doing now, the way they're handling this is they're letting themselves

01:25:01.800 get canceled.

01:25:02.500 They're digging their own grave.

01:25:03.840 They just have to.

01:25:04.900 I mean, I'm not there.

01:25:06.280 I'm not, you know, their advisor on PR or anything.

01:25:09.280 But if I were them, I would just shut up and be like, we're not working with Dylan Mulvaney

01:25:13.500 anymore and just continue making beer and selling it.

01:25:15.980 And just what I always found is when you're in the middle of getting canceled, you just

01:25:19.400 shut up.

01:25:20.160 You don't say anything.

01:25:21.140 You don't try to address it.

01:25:22.480 You don't try to put out statements because it always just backfires.

01:25:26.000 Hmm.

01:25:27.880 Interesting.

01:25:28.580 They kind of went that way, but not exactly.

01:25:31.820 I don't know.

01:25:32.220 I on this one, I have to say, I disagree.

01:25:33.860 I think they need to come out, figure out who the audience is.

01:25:36.420 And it's not this trans community and it's not their supporters.

01:25:39.440 It's like, what if they just said, like, hey, we're not working with Dylan anymore.

01:25:44.480 Goodbye.

01:25:45.000 We're going to sell beer.

01:25:46.160 You know, like, I think I think they need to use the words.

01:25:48.200 We're sorry.

01:25:48.780 I really do.

01:25:49.740 I think they need to understand that they've offended their their customer base because it

01:25:54.240 wasn't just Dylan.

01:25:54.920 It was that snotty, bratty VP of marketing who herself was drinking beer at a condoms

01:26:00.120 in college.

01:26:01.260 Sorry, I was never, you know, a goody two shoes, but never, never, never happened.

01:26:07.280 I'm not going to see a picture of yours truly doing that.

01:26:09.360 I think I can speak for you, too.

01:26:11.440 Well, out there, out there calling the customer base to fratty.

01:26:15.860 Because they already dug their own graves.

01:26:17.900 But if they would have just right at the beginning been like, OK, we're not working with Dylan anymore.

01:26:22.260 This was a mistake.

01:26:23.580 Goodbye.

01:26:24.180 Then they would have been fine right now.

01:26:25.900 Now, after they kept putting out these statements and then we kept finding more stuff on that

01:26:30.360 because they weren't really addressing our concerns.

01:26:34.360 Then now they I mean, now they have to do.

01:26:36.580 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:26:37.420 They have to do a lot more than just cut off the relationship with Dylan and and just stay

01:26:42.420 quiet.

01:26:42.780 Now, I think you're right that they do have to apologize.

01:26:44.420 But right away, I don't think that they necessarily would have had to specifically apologize and

01:26:49.180 say, I'm sorry.

01:26:50.520 I think this is an opportunity for them.

01:26:51.860 This letter from human rights campaign.

01:26:53.980 If I were advising the CEO, I would say you need to issue a statement saying we will not

01:26:58.960 we will not say anything more in support of Dylan.

01:27:02.620 We will not say anything more to appease you.

01:27:05.420 You can go ahead and lower our corporate equality index score.

01:27:09.240 However, we understand we heard our customer base and we stand by them.

01:27:14.180 That's this is an opportunity.

01:27:15.680 He should take it because he does.

01:27:17.600 Dylan Mulvaney does not drink enough beer to save Bud Light.

01:27:20.580 OK, highest stays with us.

01:27:22.420 We're going to squeeze in a break and come back on the opposite side.

01:27:24.920 A lot more to discuss, including President Biden claiming at the White House Correspondents

01:27:27.860 Dinner that these crazy righties are getting books banned.

01:27:30.880 They're a lunatic.

01:27:31.720 The lunatic right that he's fighting needs to get books banned.

01:27:34.760 She's done a lot of reporting on this.

01:27:36.060 We'll talk about the books that he's so protective of in two seconds.

01:27:39.320 Don't go away.

01:27:42.780 My guest today is Haya Rychik.

01:27:45.660 You may know her as the creator of Libs of TikTok, and she's also the author of the children's

01:27:52.120 book, No More Secrets, which you can find at LOTTBook.com, LOTTBook.com.

01:28:02.000 So on the subject of books and children's books, alleged children's books, unlike yours, and

01:28:09.900 the president.

01:28:12.060 So he was out there at the White House Correspondents Dinner this this weekend.

01:28:15.480 And once again, he loves to bring up banning of books.

01:28:17.980 By the way, this just happened in my child's school, which I'm going to take up this.

01:28:21.920 Oh, you know, these terrible people who are banning LGBTQ books, banning, banning by banning.

01:28:26.740 What they won't tell you is they mean pulling it out of a K through 12 library.

01:28:30.780 That's it.

01:28:31.540 Go get it at the public library.

01:28:32.620 Get it at Amazon.

01:28:33.840 Get your porn wherever you want to get it.

01:28:35.280 And if you want to give it to your five-year-old, that's your business.

01:28:37.640 Eventually, Division of Child and Family Services will catch up with you.

01:28:40.640 But I don't need it in my child's library.

01:28:43.980 It should not be in an elementary school library or a middle school library.

01:28:46.620 And most of the stuff shouldn't be in a high school library either.

01:28:48.860 But that's what they're talking about when they say banning, banning.

01:28:53.020 Here's the president and his messaging.

01:28:56.280 Lies told for profit and power.

01:29:00.580 Lies of conspiracy and malice.

01:29:03.340 Repeated over and over again.

01:29:07.040 Designed to generate a cycle of anger, hate and even violence.

01:29:11.720 A cycle that emboldens.

01:29:16.760 History to be buried.

01:29:19.180 Books to be banned.

01:29:21.480 Children and families to be attacked by the state.

01:29:23.580 Yeah, okay, so there's, he's saying it.

01:29:28.940 Chelsea Clinton, I'm sorry, I mean, I try never to quote this person.

01:29:32.220 But she's been out there over the past couple of days once again saying,

01:29:36.300 over 50% of the attempted book bans last year involved books with LGBTQ plus characters and themes.

01:29:43.180 Books are a vital way that children, adolescents and adults learn about themselves and so on.

01:29:49.060 She's in favor of basically child porn.

01:29:51.880 I mean, that's what we're seeing in these books.

01:29:52.960 They won't tell you that, Shia.

01:29:55.760 No, they never tell you that.

01:29:57.180 And they also never show you pages from the books that they're claiming we're banning.

01:30:01.620 So, you know, every time I see one of these tweets, I always post a picture of pages from these books,

01:30:10.500 which clearly show porn.

01:30:13.360 And I'm just like, you know, they're not going to show the pages, so I will.

01:30:16.680 But these are the books that they're referring to that, you know, we're banning from schools.

01:30:21.080 Can you explain to the audience, like, it's fine.

01:30:25.380 It's okay to be graphic.

01:30:26.640 But like, what exactly is it that they're showing?

01:30:28.580 When you say porn, like, what are we seeing?

01:30:30.360 So there's a book called Genderqueer, which has an illustration of what appears to be actually children.

01:30:39.000 So one of them is giving the other one a blowjob.

01:30:42.000 There's a book called This Book is Gay, which basically has two chapters about gay sex and tells you different positions and how you can do it and how it can be more enjoyable.

01:30:53.100 And then it also encourages using gay sex apps to go hook up with other gay people.

01:31:00.880 So they're giving this to kids in school.

01:31:03.660 There's a book.

01:31:04.800 There's a book called Flamer, which I talk about a lot.

01:31:08.280 There's just so many of these books.

01:31:11.000 And the far left, they will never show you the contents of the book.

01:31:15.120 All they'll do is just call us book banners.

01:31:16.900 So then I always post pictures of the book.

01:31:20.400 And I know it's graphic.

01:31:21.860 And honestly, if you post it on Instagram, Instagram will remove it.

01:31:25.540 So Instagram says it's too graphic.

01:31:27.280 Every single time you post on Instagram, they'll remove it.

01:31:30.360 But these books are allowed in schools.

01:31:32.580 They're just not allowed on Instagram.

01:31:34.480 But I'll post it to Twitter.

01:31:36.740 And it really just, these people basically are coming out in support of porn in school.

01:31:43.540 And they can't deny it.

01:31:45.160 It's unjustifiable.

01:31:46.900 And I think that the way to really counter this porn in school issue is to just keep

01:31:53.520 showing the images.

01:31:54.920 So I know I always get comments like, oh, why are you posting this?

01:31:58.740 It's too graphic.

01:31:59.620 Or why are you showing me porn?

01:32:01.020 And I'm like, this is literally in your kid's school.

01:32:03.500 That's the point.

01:32:05.680 Your kids are allowed to see it in school, but we're not allowed to post it on Instagram.

01:32:08.900 We're not allowed to show adults what's in these books.

01:32:11.240 That's how graphic it is.

01:32:12.260 I've got to hit on the dust up you had with AOC in the time we have left.

01:32:18.320 She smeared you by saying you said something you never said.

01:32:24.540 You then filed a complaint, right?

01:32:27.220 You can correct me.

01:32:28.100 But then you filed a complaint with Congress that she smeared you.

01:32:33.760 And it led to this exchange, which we have a bit of SOT-22.

01:32:38.380 I just delivered an ethics complaint to your office because there's a lot of us in a committee

01:32:42.620 hearing.

01:32:42.800 Oh, yeah.

01:32:43.980 No, I actually didn't.

01:32:44.620 I never inspired about that.

01:32:46.120 No, you're actually super transphobic and I never want to share space with you.

01:32:50.060 Thank you.

01:32:50.540 Oh, she's so annoying.

01:32:54.780 So what happened?

01:32:56.580 So AOC, in a committee hearing, she claimed that I posted false information about Boston

01:33:01.720 Children's Hospital and she claimed that I inspired a bomb threat.

01:33:06.420 So these are very serious allegations.

01:33:08.800 I went to confront her.

01:33:11.320 She wasn't in her office.

01:33:12.320 And then, thankfully, I met her as I was leaving the Capitol in that exchange we just saw.

01:33:19.020 So, yeah, I filed an ethics complaint because of these comments that she said.

01:33:24.940 But Congress people are actually protected by legislative privilege when they're in these

01:33:29.620 committee hearings.

01:33:30.260 So they're allowed to say anything and they can't be held accountable.

01:33:33.860 So I can't file a defamation suit.

01:33:36.940 You know, I can't do anything besides file an ethics complaint.

01:33:40.200 So that's exactly what I did.

01:33:42.320 We didn't hear back yet.

01:33:43.520 I don't think we will.

01:33:45.380 But I'm just happy that I held her accountable and I stood up for myself.

01:33:52.340 And as for your reporting on hospitals offering these, quote, sex change or gender affirming

01:33:59.480 procedures to minors, we have learned that this is happening at more than just one hospital.

01:34:06.360 This is happening at hospitals across the country.

01:34:11.920 Before 2015, there were zero pediatric gender clinics in America.

01:34:15.880 And now there are over 100.

01:34:18.780 I have reported a lot on it.

01:34:21.520 I got a recording of D.C.

01:34:23.920 Children's National Hospital telling me in a recording that they do hysterectomies on 16 year olds and, quote, younger kids.

01:34:33.040 So these surgeries are definitely happening.

01:34:35.720 Boston Children's Hospital's own website advertise surgeries for minors.

01:34:40.100 But they know that they can't defend it.

01:34:42.340 They know it's horrific and egregious what they're doing.

01:34:44.680 So they just have to lie about it.

01:34:45.900 You are so important to the national conversation, to changing our children's lives for the better and for the safer.

01:34:53.280 Big admirer.

01:34:54.300 Huge fan.

01:34:55.120 So great to meet you in person.

01:34:56.560 Haya, please come back.

01:34:57.820 Please come anytime.

01:34:59.720 Thank you so much.

01:35:00.560 It was great chatting with you, Megan.

01:35:02.060 Likewise.

01:35:02.700 And don't forget her children's book.

01:35:03.920 This is about like if there's there's a lesson in here for children about like following around this wolf.

01:35:09.200 And what does the wolf actually mean for you?

01:35:11.220 And is it safe?

01:35:12.660 It's called No More Secrets.

01:35:14.040 You can find it at L.O.T.T. book dot com and buy it just to support her and her mission.

01:35:20.260 I want to say thank you to join for all of you for joining us today.

01:35:23.220 And listen, we are now right now, as of this moment, it's 151 Eastern time, within 7000 subscribers on YouTube of hitting a million.

01:35:33.940 Yay.

01:35:35.180 We would love, love, love to have you be the millionth subscriber.

01:35:38.380 Please go over there and help us get over the million mark would be very appreciative.

01:35:42.560 We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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