The Megyn Kelly Show - Election Day Predictions, and Media Smears, with Glenn Beck, Salena Zito, Matt Continetti, and Doug Schoen ｜ Ep. 429

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00:01:50.320 super fun. OK, first, though, with hours before the election polls close, Democrats are now warning

00:01:56.240 of a red mirage, a red mirage, not a red wave. And the media begins turning on President Biden.

00:02:04.360 Well, that didn't take long. How do we know this? They've actually started, wait for it,

00:02:08.300 fact-checking him. What? They don't do that. What? Joining me now to discuss it all, Glenn Beck,

00:02:16.080 founder of The Blaze and host of the Glenn Beck program. Glenn, such a pleasure to have you on a

00:02:22.120 day like this. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Megan. It's great to be here.

00:02:26.860 So they have started turning on Joe Biden. Already now they're doing fact-checks of him.

00:02:31.360 I mean, they're they're going to shove him out, not even slowly, but surely, but pretty promptly,

00:02:36.600 don't you think, after today's election results, which at the worst would be Republicans only take

00:02:42.500 the House? Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't think Joe is is going to finish his term. I just don't think

00:02:52.320 that he has anything going for him. However, then you get Kamala. I mean, I don't know. But the if

00:03:05.560 get the House and the Senate impeachment hearings are coming, hearings are coming for Fauci hearings

00:03:11.600 are coming for the DOJ, and it's needed. It's needed. Maybe they want Kamala in there for, 0.99

00:03:22.420 let's say, six months, like enough so they can say, oh, we didn't bypass her, you know,

00:03:28.040 but it's only fair that we subject her to a primary challenge because she wasn't actually 0.70

00:03:32.400 voted into this office. So, you know, that's an interesting thought, like, because all along,

00:03:36.980 it's been like, what do they do with Kamala? Well, given their identity politics adherence,

00:03:40.880 be tough to sidestep her. Anyway, forget her for now. I mean, it makes Fetterman make more sense,

00:03:46.840 doesn't it? If you have if you have Fetterman, they are clearly not interested in having anyone

00:03:55.040 with any kind of brainpower or alertness at all. It is. They just want warm bodies that will

00:04:03.240 execute whatever the plan is, it seems. Well, I mean, that's politics in 2022.

00:04:10.220 I've been saying all along, I feel like the Fetterman thing, I'm waiting for it to resonate

00:04:15.140 with the Democratic base. I don't see it. He didn't crater in the polls. I realize Oz is up a

00:04:19.580 little right now, and that's a good time for him to be up. But, you know, Fetterman, they they love

00:04:24.460 the guy in Pennsylvania. I think the Pennsylvanians are thinking he looks like me. He may not sound

00:04:30.080 exactly like me, but he doesn't drink red wine at the tailgate like Dr. Oz. No.

00:04:36.780 Yeah, but I don't think that I mean, I am more surprised by Fetterman's non collapse than I think

00:04:47.140 almost anything I've seen in politics in a long time. You watch that and he is clearly not capable

00:04:53.920 of doing it. And Oz is not some crazy man that, you know, is some, you know, right wing zealot of

00:05:01.820 any sort. He's Dr. Frickin Oz. He's brilliant. Oz is brilliant. Yeah. And he's and he's running

00:05:09.020 against a guy who cannot process. Look, I have a daughter who had several strokes at birth and,

00:05:17.460 you know, she is very, very bright, but she cannot process her language incoming and outgoing just

00:05:26.000 like Fetterman. And she has a really difficult time getting her point across. And it takes her

00:05:33.020 a long time to understand different different concepts. It's not a bad thing. She's still very,

00:05:40.840 very bright. But I wouldn't put her in the Senate. She wouldn't be able to function 1.00

00:05:46.360 in the efficient way that needs to happen. This is insane.

00:05:52.620 You know, the problem that Oz is up against in this race, because Fetterman hasn't collapsed.

00:05:58.380 And I've been asking myself every day, like, why not? Right. Because Oz is brilliant. Maybe

00:06:02.440 he doesn't resonate, but like he's brilliant. He's invented all sorts of cardiothoracic

00:06:06.540 techniques and procedures and so on. He saved lives for a living for a long, long time. They try to

00:06:12.000 make him into a snake oil salesman. He's a really well-respected cardiothoracic surgeon.

00:06:17.620 Okay. This other guy's been on his parents' couch for like 25 years.

00:06:21.740 Right.

00:06:22.100 But it reminds me of, you know, Kid Rock, right? I love Kid Rock. And at one point, Kid Rock

00:06:29.240 invited me to a concert. And so Doug and I went and we went backstage with KR and there

00:06:35.520 he was drinking his scotch and having a good time with his buddies. Well, they were opening

00:06:39.420 that day for Bon Jovi and Jon Bon Jovi came back. And while Jon Bon Jovi used to be a great

00:06:44.620 rocker back in the 1980s with the hair and there he was sipping. He was like sipping his little

00:06:50.840 wine glass with his pinky out. Why is he doing that? Nobody wants to see that. What's that

00:06:57.180 version of like the sophisticated Jon Bon Jovi? Everybody would rather go with Kid Rock.

00:07:02.360 And the Democrats have done a good job trying to paint Oz like the Jon Bon Jovi with the pinky

00:07:08.840 out and Fetterman like the Kid Rock with the scotch. Like he's the dude who's like you who gets

00:07:15.600 football and is a real working class guy and forgetting all that stuff that we said about

00:07:21.300 education and how this sort of building a Fetterman ignores the elephant in the middle of the room.

00:07:28.920 Yeah, I you know, I don't want somebody in any office that's just like me. Otherwise, I would run.

00:07:36.860 I don't want somebody. I like somebody who is smarter than I am, that is doing the things.

00:07:42.540 I want somebody who can relate to me and I can relate to them. But I've I don't live the Donald

00:07:49.780 Trump lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination. I don't have the perfect golden fuzz. It's yet

00:07:55.360 he can relate to people. He he can see suffering. He can do all the things that someone needs to do

00:08:05.540 to be able to stay connected with the with the public. And I'm more of the pinky guy compared

00:08:12.820 to Donald Trump. I why are we looking at these things? We should be looking at who is most

00:08:20.000 qualified, who's done something with their life and built something. We we've torn down all of our

00:08:27.320 heroes, all of our statues. What do we just not? Are we just is the bar so low now that we want a guy

00:08:35.700 who we like because he wears a hoodie and he can't really function because here's what you're going to

00:08:44.620 get. You're going to get his wife replacing him guarantee before his term is over. Yeah, maybe sooner 0.98

00:08:52.500 rather than later. And she is a radical, much more radical than he is. I know, but he's not exactly

00:08:59.920 Mr. Centrist. You know, I mean, you know, I know his in an era in which we are focused supremely on

00:09:06.400 crime, whether the Democrats want to admit it or not, their voters are focused on crime in Pennsylvania

00:09:12.120 as well. This is a guy who's never seen a criminal he wants to keep in jail. And his wife has spent the

00:09:18.040 last few days leading up to Election Day with the defund the police crowd. All of them, like the

00:09:25.100 Priyanka Chopra, part of the squad. She was out there with being photographed with the squad who

00:09:30.420 still wants to defund the police. That's what you're going to get in Pennsylvania. So I don't

00:09:34.760 understand this. And, you know, I'm living in Texas, so thank goodness I don't have to deal with

00:09:38.720 this. But Megan, it's like in New York. Have all of the same people and it could be all the same

00:09:44.720 people moved out of New York? How can this election with the governor be so close when

00:09:52.220 the governor is denying crime as a problem? How is that happening? It's because they love

00:10:00.880 they love abortion. I mean, like New Yorkers, blue Democrats love abortion. They absolutely I 0.80

00:10:08.920 mean, it's never going away in New York State. Lee Zeldin or Kathy Hochul. They've been

00:10:13.620 voting for their whole lives. But wait, I mean, you don't I mean, what is it? Ten percent of the

00:10:20.280 population will have an abortion and and everybody else that might have chosen life. You want your 0.99

00:10:27.940 kids that were born gunned down in the street. You want crime. I don't I just don't think that

00:10:33.600 abortion is as big as people think when you have. It is in New York for that for the true blue Democrats. 0.84

00:10:40.760 It's a big issue. But in New York, for that very reason, will never endanger abortion. 0.93

00:10:46.040 You know, it's not good. This is not one of those states in which it might go away,

00:10:49.200 but they care about it. You know, it's a protest vote and they have an impression in the blue

00:10:54.700 Democrats in this state have an impression that the Republicans are against them, that the Democrats

00:10:59.780 of the party that cares about people, the Republicans, I think, in their minds, they're either

00:11:05.480 chamber of commerce, rich people who don't give a crap about the working class or their Trump

00:11:10.320 hardcore MAGA folks who are, in their view, racist deplorables. That's how the Democrat

00:11:15.920 party in this state thinks.

00:11:18.580 And they will vote for something that is clearly dysfunctional, will rob them of their money

00:11:27.260 through inflation and and put their children at danger in in schools and on top of it,

00:11:38.520 just let criminals out. I mean, where is the self-interest at all that should kick in at some

00:11:46.160 point? Well, you know, Glenn, those people like and I and I actually think there's a very good chance

00:11:51.200 today that New York will vote Zeldin. I really think he's got a great shot. He could win.

00:11:57.300 I think so, too. In fact, if I had to predict, I think I'd say it's going to be Zeldin. And I

00:12:03.080 realize that's, you know, that could be madness, given the very latest poll showing her up

00:12:07.160 significantly again. But I think that there's that core group of Democrats. You know how you got the

00:12:12.040 core 30 percent of their GOP that's hardcore Trump? You got a core 30 percent of the Democrats

00:12:17.380 who love masks, love mandatory vaccines, wear their masks still in the cars when driving by

00:12:24.620 themselves, judge everybody else, are very pro cancel culture, are woke right now in New York

00:12:30.320 City. There's an initiative to write in all these DEI measures. It's it's on the ballot for New York

00:12:36.840 City residents today into into the city government where we're going to have to distinguish between

00:12:42.020 people's race and assist accordingly based on their housing applications. So what does that mean?

00:12:47.840 Like blacks are going to get help, help with housing, but poor whites won't like that's New 1.00

00:12:52.280 York City. So those people are not going to vote for Lee Zeldin. He's got to get a high enough margin

00:12:56.880 in New York City to put him over the edge. They're just that's where all the votes are.

00:13:01.140 I got I got to tell you, in New York City, New York City can do whatever New York City wants.

00:13:06.840 We have a republic and, you know, each state can do whatever it wants. Just don't suck me down into

00:13:13.920 it. And that's my problem with like Pennsylvania. You're you're sucking the rest of us into your

00:13:19.240 nightmare. You know, this isn't the way the founders wanted it. It was the progressives that

00:13:25.040 changed the Senate and how it was selected. So it became a national election. And you now affect me

00:13:35.020 in New York City, whatever New York as the governor, again, whatever. But when it comes to

00:13:44.100 the rest of us, it really bothers me that we have to pay for the mistakes of New York and and California

00:13:52.980 because we're getting to a place to where you either believe in the Bill of Rights or you don't.

00:13:59.860 And we could argue about tax policy and the role of the government in helping people and

00:14:06.720 war and all that stuff. We can argue about that and we could be OK. But unless you believe in the 0.90

00:14:13.800 Bill of Rights, I don't know how to I don't I don't I can't compromise anymore. There is no compromise.

00:14:21.940 They frame it very differently. Their whole framing is, no,

00:14:24.360 it's about whether you believe in democracy. Democracy itself is on the ballot.

00:14:31.080 Yeah. Well, I believe in democracy. That's not what we have. We have a republic

00:14:34.620 and we have it for a reason because democracy always leads to slavery and tyrants. So good.

00:14:41.780 I'm glad democracy is on the ropes. You know, we didn't have it. But to me, they know that difference.

00:14:48.920 And that's why they're saying they are they are afraid that their idea of democracy, which is

00:14:55.900 much more totalitarian than anything else, is on the ropes. No, I don't want that. I want a republic.

00:15:03.600 I want 50 little laboratories in every state doing different things. And then if it works in that state,

00:15:11.060 let's try it in another state. And if it works there, too, let's try it as a country.

00:15:15.060 That's the way we're supposed to be. Not all lockstep and goose stepping to some somebody else's

00:15:21.720 dream. It's our dream. What do you think is going to happen tonight, Glenn? What do you think? Like,

00:15:28.100 what are your predictions? I know, you know, it's not exactly our business, but, you know,

00:15:31.400 just back of the hand. What do you think? So here's what I here's what I predicted on radio today

00:15:37.380 in the Senate. Republicans, 61, 30, 37 for the Democrats, which, you know, that's because,

00:15:47.180 well, Utah just puts in or just does a write in. We got to kick Mitt Romney out. But I don't think

00:15:53.680 that that's going to happen. I think it's 53, hopefully 54, 49 Democrats in the Senate. They're

00:16:02.180 going to clearly win the House. What do you put in that 53? How do you see that adding up?

00:16:10.060 I think Masters, I don't have my list in front of me. I think Masters wins.

00:16:14.260 Masters in Arizona, right.

00:16:15.860 I think Herschel Walker wins. I think Wisconsin goes to us.

00:16:24.140 How about Laxalt?

00:16:24.980 I think there's a I yes, Nevada. And I think there's even a chance that I mean, it's a small

00:16:32.660 chance, but there is a chance that we get Washington state. What about New Hampshire?

00:16:37.300 There's a chance. I think New Hampshire is going to go with with us to Bulldog is I think he's going

00:16:44.940 to win. I feel like he's going to win, too. I kind of feel like that's a dark horse race.

00:16:49.740 But so Megan and real clear politics just move New Hampshire out of its, I think, projected 0.88

00:16:54.340 red winds. They moved it back. Leans blue. But I just feel like he's got momentum going into this

00:16:59.500 last day. So let me ask you, if it was any other election except for the last two, wouldn't you be

00:17:08.860 saying it's going to be a blowout for the Republicans? OK, yes, I there would be no other time in American

00:17:18.440 history that I would say this. I mean, they're just going to sweep everything. It's going to be

00:17:24.240 a bloodbath tonight for the Democrats. But I can't say that now because I think there are so many people

00:17:30.940 that are locked into their vote, kind of on both sides, locked into their vote. It doesn't matter.

00:17:37.500 It doesn't matter what the facts are. It doesn't matter, you know, that that he had a stroke

00:17:43.840 and he cannot function. Well, not that should matter. Think about how the parties are splitting

00:17:50.020 now, right, with the working class migrating more and more to the Republican Party, elite college

00:17:55.480 educated voters migrating more and more to the Democrat Party. It explains why they won't move

00:18:00.640 in their votes. These elite college educated people. First of all, they're getting all their

00:18:04.660 student loans paid off by the bus drivers and the truck drivers. Right. So great. I agree.

00:18:09.700 Second of all, they don't even need that money because they're already earning good money. So

00:18:13.600 they don't really give a shit about the inflationary numbers or about the gas prices. It barely touches

00:18:19.100 them. It's really not their problem. They do care about abortion, about BLM, about things that make 0.90

00:18:25.080 them feel like better human beings, even though most black voters and Hispanic voters are have 0.91

00:18:29.820 already called that organization a fraud and recognize that defunding the police hurts their

00:18:33.880 communities way more than it helps them. Right. So these college educated elites are looking

00:18:38.920 at all of this like they don't care about inflation. This is not going to be a mover or shaker for

00:18:44.140 them when it comes to their vote. Illegal immigration, that doesn't affect them. Crime, 1.00

00:18:49.220 they're in gated communities. They don't need to worry about. So if you think about how they live,

00:18:53.780 it makes perfect sense that none of this stuff bothers them. But there's enough people that don't

00:18:59.100 live like that that should be switching over. I mean, when when you can just get people to vote

00:19:06.160 lockstep onto insane things, truly insane things, things that, you know, Megan, if we would have

00:19:13.520 talked 10 years ago and I said, Joe, that's going to lead to people normalizing pedophilia, which I

00:19:19.380 think I did say, everyone would say that's crazy. Everyone on the left would say that's crazy there.

00:19:26.260 It's nothing to do with pedophilia. We all know that pedophilia is wrong. And yet here we are.

00:19:32.780 And I'm still saying pedophilia is wrong. But half the country with no new information is suddenly

00:19:41.260 like, well, let's rethink that. Let's talk about crime, because this has been such a motivating

00:19:48.840 issue in state after state. It's really what helped turn Oz's fortunes around in Pennsylvania.

00:19:56.320 Fetterman had been crushing him even post stroke. But then he and Team Red got on the air with

00:20:02.620 tons of ads pointing out how Fetterman loves to let criminals out of jail and is is anti cop.

00:20:09.880 So that's helped Oz. Same thing happened for Ron Johnson in Wisconsin. He kept getting on the air

00:20:15.240 now against Mandela Barnes, who is pro defund the police, pro no cash bail, you know, a big on the

00:20:22.500 Black Lives Matter rhetoric from that organization. In any event, so things are changing the voting in

00:20:27.620 those states. In New York, Zeldin has done this with Hochul. He's been on the air. He's been at

00:20:33.060 the debate. And she actually looked at him and said, I don't know why you care about this so much.

00:20:37.100 OK, that's crazy.

00:20:39.920 And now in the final moments, the media allies start to come out and say,

00:20:44.840 ah, crime's not that bad. They're parroting her. This is really just a Republican scare tactic.

00:20:50.580 This is a small website, but I want to give you one example. OK, that's a media website that a lot

00:20:56.000 of us go to. It's called Mediaite. And they posted a piece yesterday with our old pals of Fox News

00:21:03.040 outside. Brit Hume was one of them. I think it was the show Outnumbered or Harris Faulkner's show in

00:21:08.800 any event. No, it was Outnumbered. And the headline of the piece was as follows. Fox News hosts cast

00:21:15.440 New York as crime ridden and chaotic while sitting outside on a perfectly pleasant day in the city.

00:21:24.800 Megan, I worked at Fox. You worked at Fox. Do you remember the security details that were outside

00:21:31.680 when you were outside? And that was not in that was not in a time where New York was falling apart.

00:21:37.780 It's so they're trying to cast this as the as Fox News is mostly peaceful protests moment,

00:21:45.000 right? Like we saw with CNN while the fires were burning behind the guy. Here's a little bit of

00:21:49.900 the discussion that was being had on the air. We were here in the 1970s and you say New York

00:21:55.740 feels like that now. It's very random and very chaotic here. Yeah, the streets are chaotic. I see

00:22:00.540 dirt and trash in the in the on the sidewalks and and and the noise and the smell. The smell of

00:22:10.520 marijuana is everywhere. Oh, I know it's pervasive. It does remind me of the mess it was here in the

00:22:15.620 70s the way it is. OK, now here's the fact check. OK, by this reporter says, OK, as they spoke,

00:22:25.780 New Yorkers could be seen in the background freely going about their day as if anything short of

00:22:30.840 cowering, cowering under a manhole, the lies, the crime stats. And then the reporter goes on

00:22:38.700 to say the 1970s were a notoriously crimey time in the city's history. But then goes on to say,

00:22:46.360 let's see, both the crime has increased in New York City over the past few years,

00:22:52.180 both property and violent crime rates are down drastically compared to previous decades.

00:22:58.240 Yes. All right. Just FYI, you're missing a big part of the story.

00:23:07.480 They're reaching. Yeah, here's here's the stats. OK, crime was terrible in the 90s and the 70s. In

00:23:14.320 1990, the city saw the most reported homicides on record, 2,245. Then something happened as of around

00:23:21.040 1993, starting between 93 and 98. Crime fell almost 70 percent, 69 percent. What happened, Megan?

00:23:29.120 What was it? Searching. I don't have any idea. I don't. Does it rhyme with Wuliani?

00:23:37.280 I mean, this is broken windows and more policing, more incarceration. It's like it's the whole thing

00:23:44.500 is crazy. Correct. Correct. Feel free to ignore all the people being shoved in front of the subway

00:23:49.040 and being raped while they're jogging in Central Park. How absurd and idiotic.

00:23:55.320 And, you know, it's it's it's incredible to me that so many people will just swallow that.

00:24:04.060 Is there no critical thinking in any? I mean, I understood it when I was saying, you know,

00:24:09.200 hey, inflation is coming and it's going to be really bad and it's, you know, probably going to

00:24:12.960 lead to, you know, collapse of the economy eventually. I understand it because that was

00:24:18.900 my opinion and my projection. This isn't opinion. They're raping people. They're killing people in

00:24:26.300 the subway. Crime is is out of control. I mean, how do you deny these things? I feel like I I just want

00:24:36.620 to walk up to people who who are denying these to say, what what information do you have that I don't

00:24:42.160 have? Because I'll be with you if you have some information. But none of the information, none of

00:24:49.340 the excuses make any sense whatsoever. And it is it's going to get worse and worse. I mean, as a recovering

00:24:59.320 alcoholic, I know that at some point you feel so much pain, you say, OK, OK, I surrender. I surrender.

00:25:09.640 Everything I try to do just makes it worse. I surrender and I will accept whatever the truth

00:25:17.340 is, because I know what I'm living is a total lie. Where is your bottom, Pennsylvania? Where is your

00:25:24.980 bottom, New York? Where is your bottom, Washington, D.C., Portland? Where's your bottom, Los Angeles?

00:25:34.080 This is insanity. You strike me as the kind of alcoholic that will just keep holding on until

00:25:42.720 you die. Well, let's let's not go there if we don't have to. Is there nothing that can break

00:25:51.500 through? Is there nothing that they can do that you can you will stop and say, OK, you

00:25:58.140 know what? This is too far. Is there nothing?

00:26:02.400 Well, I mean, there's the case in Buffalo of this young woman who is brutally murdered by

00:26:08.820 her ex days after he was released from prison, only charged with misdemeanors after he beat

00:26:16.900 the hell out of her. This happened in October in New York state out of Buffalo. And this is the

00:26:23.820 same. OK, the same state that this website is like, look how beautiful it is. Everything seems

00:26:29.420 fine. And Kathy Hochul is saying, I don't know what you're so upset about. This is a this is a

00:26:34.620 Republican manipulation, this crime story. But this is just one example. In addition to the ones I cited

00:26:39.920 just a second ago in Buffalo, 30 year old woman, Kira Benefield, dead. She was killed by her

00:26:46.180 estranged husband, Adam. He crashed into her. Let me just step back. OK, she had posted a horrendous

00:26:52.840 eight minute video to Facebook showing him punching her, kicking her, slapping her relentlessly.

00:27:00.080 He got arrested a week after that in late September and charged with only a string of

00:27:05.600 misdemeanors that prevented the judge from setting bail. All right. This is we've seen this over and

00:27:11.980 over. They intentionally charged these crimes lower so that the defendant doesn't have to

00:27:16.620 be held on bail, which they're the liberal bleeding hearts are against. This judge didn't set bail. The

00:27:22.780 guy was released. And the next day, by the way, his ex-wife now knows he's gotten released after he

00:27:29.400 beat the living hell out of her. She's so scared. She she got herself a bulletproof vest. She's wearing 0.99

00:27:35.920 a bulletproof vest as she drops off her three children at school. She was begging police for 0.97

00:27:42.120 help. He showed up, crashed into her car, pulled out a shotgun and killed her. There was zero chance

00:27:49.520 of her vest or the system doing anything to save her life. That's the problem. Mediaite. That's the

00:27:58.620 problem. Kathy Hochul. That's what's got New Yorkers and people in Pennsylvania and Washington State 1.00

00:28:04.640 and beyond so upset. We have forgotten the purpose of government. What Megan? Why is our government

00:28:15.580 established? Our government is established to protect those rights, life, liberty and pursuit of

00:28:26.720 happiness. We establish our government to protect those rights. The government is failing on its

00:28:34.620 primary job. They are violating rights by sending in DOJ to scare people. There are three states,

00:28:42.480 three states that I know of today. I just talked to the AG of Missouri, and he told me he thought

00:28:50.480 there were 23 states on the list, but we're not sure where the DOJ is going into these red states and

00:28:57.500 they are actually posting people in the polling centers. I don't know why. The states don't know

00:29:05.760 why. They're asking, what exactly are you looking for? Angry parents again? Yeah. Florida has said

00:29:13.220 you're not coming in. Well, all you need is a blue jacket that says DOJ, just like if you would have sent

00:29:19.100 the local sheriff in on a voting day and Martin Luther King is coming in, all you need was the

00:29:28.000 local sheriff to have their deputy there to spook people. This is all that is happening. They are

00:29:34.740 violating right after right after right. The government has got to lose its grip and power.

00:29:43.280 And if the if the Republicans go in and they don't pass a budget so it goes into appropriations

00:29:50.540 where they can actually claw this money back and say, oh, guess what? Guess who's not getting a

00:29:56.380 budget? If they don't do everything to take the power back that Congress has let slip through their

00:30:02.740 fingers. I mean, they're done. They're done as a party because this has gone too far. It's madness.

00:30:11.460 It's madness. This is it. This is the day that the electorate has its chance. Whether you ignored

00:30:19.020 the pollsters, whether you ignored the pundits, it's between you and your God that in that ballot

00:30:24.580 box. And what you do is up to you and your conscience. More with Glenn back after this very

00:30:30.540 quick break. Don't go away.

00:30:38.100 Glenn, so before we move on, I just want to make one point on we talked about voters and what they

00:30:43.300 care about and what what black voters care about, what brown voters care about. And there's a Pew

00:30:48.480 statistic that was released. While 82 percent of black Democratic voters say violent crime is very

00:30:56.660 important to their vote this year, only one third of white Democratic voters say the same.

00:31:02.880 So these Democrats think they're pandering to the black vote by saying crime is a mirage. And it's

00:31:08.740 exactly the opposite. They care deeply that their communities are being highly affected by this.

00:31:14.000 But the Democrats honestly are so racist in their messaging that it's like they look at these black

00:31:19.460 communities like, look, we're getting black people out of jail. You should be happy with us. 0.76

00:31:23.020 Like black people are just your criminals. And so you should be happy as opposed to you, 1.00

00:31:27.920 like anybody, have been victims of a lot of these criminals. It's crazy the way they get away with

00:31:32.840 that racist messaging. And that brings me to President Biden. OK, let me just give you this.

00:31:36.920 I'll give you the floor. President Biden goes to speak to a historically black college university

00:31:41.680 and decides to, you know, try to reach out to these students to try to bond and make them

00:31:46.940 feel like he gets them. Listen to what he said.

00:31:50.840 The dollars I put in the budget for HBCUs.

00:31:54.940 You know why?

00:31:58.260 HBCUs don't have the endowments that they have, but guess what?

00:32:01.480 You're just as smart. You're just as bright. You're just as good as any college in America.

00:32:07.240 Oh, my God.

00:32:09.100 Oh, my God.

00:32:10.700 Glenn, can you believe he lives?

00:32:12.920 Can you believe he gets away with that?

00:32:13.880 He lives in like 1956. I mean, I really think a lot of these people look, I don't think they've

00:32:21.640 ever moved on from the 1960s. Many of these old, old, old people that were in Congress back then.

00:32:29.800 You know, he gets in what, 1970, 71. He doesn't think that he thinks we're the same country. I

00:32:37.040 really believe that. And he still thinks the way he did when he was younger.

00:32:42.600 This is this is madness. Let me say that the I'm convinced and I don't have the information to

00:32:51.280 to prove this yet. But it's one of the things I want to do. I am going to look into this and

00:32:59.460 probably write a book about it if it's right, if it's correct theory. But I think that there's no

00:33:05.140 way that Johnson could have been the guy in 1959 to stop the Civil Rights Act when the Republicans

00:33:13.660 were doing it and then be the champion and his people. He was racist till the day he died that

00:33:20.940 he champions this. I think the great society did more damage. And I think it was intentional.

00:33:27.580 And I still think that the Democrats are moving on that same racist style policy. It destroys their

00:33:35.460 families. It destroys their children. It destroys their neighborhoods. And I think the the black 1.00

00:33:43.520 community is waking up. It's just taking a lot of time. Hispanics are waking up. They're starting to 1.00

00:33:52.260 see this. Everything that these guys said they were they were going to help us with or, you know,

00:33:57.680 empower us. They're not empowering us. They're cutting our legs off of each of us.

00:34:04.480 It's so demeaning. I think about so demeaning like Glenn Lowry. Right. Picture Coleman Hughes sitting

00:34:11.000 there. You you're just as smart. You're just as. Oh, my God. Oh, and look at you know,

00:34:18.260 who's the the worst at this on talking down to people is Kamala. I can't take her. She sounds 1.00

00:34:24.540 like she's she everybody in her audience is four years old. We all love school buses. Don't we

00:34:30.540 remember when we rode on a school bus? I can't take the way they just look down their nose at everyone.

00:34:37.720 Yes. It reminds me of I'm having a problem, which I'll reveal later. It's not a medical problem,

00:34:43.920 but I'm having a problem in confronting a doctor. I have because this doctor is when I see him, he

00:34:50.000 says, well, if you're a good girl, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I know you're a good girl and I'm

00:34:55.160 it's making my skin crawl. So I talked to how old is he? He's like 40s. I think I'm in 40s. So I talked

00:35:02.060 to Doug about it. Like, Doug, what should I do? I it's pissing me off. But he's like my dog. Why did you

00:35:06.780 just say to him? Well, doctor, this is why I'm not a girl. I don't know. I wrestled with it in

00:35:12.080 the moment. I just was like, I didn't know. It's really been on my nerves. And Doug gave me a great

00:35:16.140 line, which I am going to use. It's just like so perfect, which is you're going to have to find a

00:35:20.260 different way to talk to me. I love that's a great thing to say. I would say you're a good boy. You'll

00:35:28.240 get a lollipop. I'll pay my bill if you'll be a good boy. That's right. I've been looking at the

00:35:37.000 people in the audience. You should bring a lollipop with you and just give it to him. If he says that

00:35:43.140 to you again, just open up your bag and take a lollipop. And if you're a good boy, I'm going to give

00:35:48.460 you one of these. But good boys don't call adult ladies little girls. Don't talk to girls like this. 0.61

00:35:55.420 They don't want the lollipop. I believe I speak on behalf of all of his female clientele.

00:36:03.340 It's those moments that I wish I had served in the armed forces so I could be like,

00:36:06.480 yo, I'm a U.S. Marine. Take a seat. Yeah, I think you have that reputation, though.

00:36:12.100 You're a verbal Marine. I'll send him some YouTube clips. Okay, so speaking of being misunderstood by

00:36:18.720 somebody, can we talk about the New York Times? My God, the New York Times, you and I,

00:36:25.420 as I understand it, listed as purveyors of misinformation.

00:36:30.580 Yeah. But by the way, first of all, they list me as a Republican in their little thing. How do

00:36:35.620 they know? Did they look into it at all? Because I'm not. I've been a registered independent for

00:36:39.480 going on 20 years. I've always been a registered. Yeah, I've been a registered independent since

00:36:44.100 about Clinton. Okay, so how about them purveyors of misinformation just to start? And the crime

00:36:50.280 that we committed was we, in my case, questioned. I want to get it right. I want to get it right.

00:36:55.800 Because first they say I was part of a Republican group that fed a misinformation loop about the

00:37:01.040 Paul Pelosi attack. Then under my picture, it says, raised doubts that all facts were being disclosed.

00:37:07.280 Oh, no. The horror. Then you. No, you never did that with any other case. Did you? You've never done

00:37:15.920 that. You raised doubts, raised doubts about the details of the attack purveyor of misinformation.

00:37:23.280 Disgusting. Can you believe this, guys? I'm I am the same way. And I have some I mean, I got on the when

00:37:30.600 I first heard it. The first thing I said was, if this is a Republican Democrat, independent psycho or

00:37:37.820 a political psycho on any side, he needs to be found and arrested and pay the full penalty.

00:37:44.600 So that's all that should be said. Now, when it comes to the facts. Yeah, I've got a few questions.

00:37:50.620 First of all, you said he was in his underpants. Then you said he wasn't in his underpants.

00:37:54.200 I don't really care. I just would like to know it. I mean, once you would see these guys in their

00:38:01.380 underpants, I don't think you could unsee it. So what happened there? One paper printed that and

00:38:08.300 then corrected it. Correct. Fine. So and that was corrected almost right away. Fine. But the other

00:38:15.140 question that I have that I think is more important is who opened the door in the affidavit? It says

00:38:23.540 the door was opened and then they saw these two. Then NBC runs. And, you know, NBC, they don't like

00:38:32.640 to get things wrong. This was for the Today Show. So the producers were all over this. And it said

00:38:40.800 that Paul opened the door and then went back and didn't stay with the police or say he was in danger,

00:38:48.060 did not rush to the police, but turned around and went back toward the attacker in their report.

00:38:52.540 That's now been, quote, expired. Right. So, I mean, I think this is my take on this. This guy is a

00:38:59.180 lunatic, a lunatic. He was a lunatic when he was on the left. He's a lunatic when he's supposedly on

00:39:06.180 the right. He's a lunatic. That's why he did this period. But there are some things like, for instance,

00:39:14.900 I've never heard of this. And this is what I wanted to ask you about. The Paul Pelosi thing.

00:39:20.360 The the Epoch Times asked for a mugshot of the perpetrator and the San Francisco police said,

00:39:32.040 we don't own the copyright to that. Yeah, I've never. What? You never you don't own the who does

00:39:40.300 own the copyright of your police lineup photos. Dorothea Lange. Is she taking all of your photos?

00:39:50.640 I mean, it's back there. What is that all about? It's just the little things that bother me.

00:39:57.400 Yes. And I'd never heard of that. Had you ever heard of that? No, I have never heard of that.

00:40:03.120 That's that's a new one to me. The San Francisco police have behaved in a way that's raised a lot

00:40:08.680 of questions for me, which is what I am guilty of doing, apparently, just raising questions about

00:40:13.400 their story, which has been inconsistent and incomplete. And I would like more facts,

00:40:19.120 which is the natural response of any honest journalist. All you have to do is release the

00:40:25.580 videotape. See, here's the problem. There may not be anything wrong with this story.

00:40:30.480 OK, may not be anything wrong with this story, but because people feel things are being hidden and

00:40:38.600 you're not allowed to question. Yes, that's when conspiracies start start. And it's natural.

00:40:46.020 And when I was on the air talking about this story, I've been on the air saying it's most likely

00:40:51.900 what was stated. However, there's these things that bother me. So let's watch what happens.

00:40:59.540 You know, let's wait for the the the the chest camera off of the police officer. It's not going

00:41:05.620 to come out right away. It'd be a couple of weeks, maybe, but it'll come out. But if it doesn't come

00:41:10.620 out, that makes me wonder why it makes you miss Florida sunshine laws where you get everything

00:41:18.440 in states that don't have that, you know, especially when you're used to getting it.

00:41:22.940 But San Francisco has got a unique problem because they put out information that they then changed.

00:41:28.760 And so their obligation to be full and transparent about why things are changing is greater. Once

00:41:35.360 you've misled us, then you really need to come out and say, this is how I got it wrong. Why did you say

00:41:40.360 there was a third person who opened the door and then changed it to Paul Pelosi? Like,

00:41:44.960 why wouldn't you say why don't we get to see the body cam? Like what? What is the reason for

00:41:49.700 especially now that we know Paul Pelosi, the victim, was not in underwear or anything like

00:41:55.880 that, as that one erroneous report suggested? Why is it bad to show us the videotape of the crime

00:42:02.180 so that we can see exactly what this man did? I mean, you would think that it would make things

00:42:07.560 worse. But again, it's like January 6th. I think those guys who were kicking down the doors,

00:42:13.280 breaking windows, you know, saying, where's Pelosi? I want all those people to go to jail.

00:42:18.300 That's fine. They should pay the appropriate price, whatever the law is. They should pay that.

00:42:23.340 But show me the rest of the videotape. Why won't you release the rest of the videotape?

00:42:30.000 There may be no reason whatsoever. I really think this is what happened. I was not a birther. 0.73

00:42:36.840 You know, I believe that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. So I was never a birther. But I used to say,

00:42:45.440 guys, if I'm Barack Obama and I want you to look crazy, I'm not releasing my birth certificate

00:42:53.480 because you'll just keep going down this trail because everybody would say, if there was nothing

00:43:01.000 to hide, why wouldn't he release it? Because I'm enjoying you guys looking like idiots. That's why

00:43:07.940 it helps me that you look like an idiot. And that may just be the only reason they need and want

00:43:15.100 conspiracies. But at the same time, they're giving us all the conspiracies.

00:43:21.000 Since when does The New York Times trust the cops? Since when?

00:43:26.880 Never.

00:43:28.400 So, you know, please give me a break, right? Like their reportorial instincts have always been to

00:43:33.620 question the police's story, especially when there might be a whiff that the police have blown it,

00:43:38.500 except in this case, because they're worried somehow that's going to appease people on the right

00:43:44.260 who questioned the Paul Pelosi attack, whether whether it does or it doesn't is beyond the point.

00:43:49.260 You as a news organization should be more curious. And let me give you this one, Glenn.

00:43:54.620 Nancy Pelosi gave an interview to Anderson Cooper about her husband, Paul Pelosi, and the attack on

00:44:00.600 him. And my heart goes out to Nancy Pelosi. I felt for her when she talked about how she felt guilty

00:44:06.780 because the attack was meant for her and her husband, you know, took the brunt of it, took the

00:44:11.840 entire thing. I mean, sure, that would be horrible, horrible for any loving spouse. But then she too

00:44:17.900 tied it to Jan 6th. Here it is.

00:44:23.200 President Biden drew a line between what happened on January 6th and the attack on her husband. The

00:44:29.720 president said, I quote, the assailant entered the home asking, where's Nancy? Where's Nancy?

00:44:35.600 Those were the very same words used by the mob when they stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th.

00:44:40.020 That's right. Do you draw that same line? Absolutely. There's no question. It's the

00:44:44.340 same, the same thing, copycatter, whatever it happens to be inflamed by the same misrepresentation.

00:44:52.880 But the fact is right now it's time for healing. We want the country to heal. This is not a path

00:44:58.680 that we can continue on. Terrifying. This is this is truly terrifying.

00:45:05.160 When you have the DOJ so corrupt and so in your pocket and you have changed language and meanings

00:45:13.020 of words, you start going down this. Let me just ask you, if we really believe the other side,

00:45:20.340 that every voter on the other side is a not just a menace, but a danger to us, our family and

00:45:28.520 everything we believe in. Can we go back and live door to door next to each other?

00:45:35.060 Not without some reeducation or some eliminations, I would contest. This is so dangerous. What is

00:45:42.800 happening? We have to come back and appeal to each other on the things that brought us here and

00:45:49.680 together in the first place. The Bill of Rights. Do you believe in the individual? And that is

00:45:55.220 that's what, you know, we complain all the time about people who don't take their jobs in Washington

00:45:59.800 seriously. Today, it's our job to go in and vote and change the way this country or encourage it to

00:46:08.560 keep going if that's the way people want to do it. But it's your job to vote. Yeah. Well, that's the

00:46:15.640 whole thing is just so cynical and dark. It's election day and that is a day of empowerment. Glenn Beck,

00:46:22.460 what a pleasure. Good to see you, neighbor. Always. Yeah. We'll see you tonight. I think you're on my

00:46:27.260 live coverage tonight. So we'll see you then. I am looking forward to it. God bless you. Thank you.

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00:47:26.480 It is election day, but we are taking a quick break from politics to bring you some breaking

00:47:31.660 news, breaking right here. Joining me now, Alan Dershowitz, professor emeritus at Harvard Law School.

00:47:38.580 Professor, it's good to see you. And you've got some news to break on a subject that we've been

00:47:44.320 following quite a bit. In fact, the country has been following related as an offshoot to the Jeffrey 0.88

00:47:50.180 Epstein case, in which you played a small role as a lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein at one point years ago.

00:47:56.780 You yourself then got accused by one of Jeffrey Epstein, one of his accusers, Virginia Giuffre,

00:48:03.040 of allegedly having inappropriate relations with her at several places. You denied it vehemently.

00:48:10.680 You accused her of defaming you. She she sued you saying that was defamation of her. You sued her

00:48:16.720 saying she had defamed you. I should tell the audience I've already said publicly, I do not

00:48:21.960 believe these allegations because I've read a lot of Virginia Giuffre. And while I believe Jeffrey Epstein

00:48:27.800 molested her, her facts about you were all over the board and inconsistent. In any event,

00:48:32.720 there's breaking news in the case. What is it? Well, I can now announce and I'm very gratified to

00:48:37.760 announce that Virginia Giuffre has agreed to dismiss all charges against me. She now says that this is

00:48:45.820 her own words. She recognizes that she may have made a mistake in identifying me. And so she's dropped

00:48:55.000 all of the charges. She acknowledges that I have denied these charges from the very beginning.

00:49:01.260 No payments have been made, but all the lawsuits have been charged. The matter is over. She has now

00:49:07.900 acknowledged that she may have made a mistake in recognizing me or in identifying me. And so I'm

00:49:15.640 very gratified, of course. Wow. So she said she's saying in writing, I may have made a mistake about

00:49:20.940 the professor. Yes, she signed a statement that says explicitly that she now recognizes she may

00:49:29.400 have made a mistake in identifying Mr. Dershowitz. Wow. And no payments have been made. You're saying

00:49:36.100 that nothing, no, no backdoor payments, no insurance payments, no payments at all from anybody on your

00:49:41.220 side or represents you to her. Nothing, nothing on either side. And all the lawsuits have now been

00:49:47.360 dropped, including David Boyce's lawsuit against me for defamation. In both cases, I countersued. So

00:49:55.220 of course, I'm dropping my countersuits because there's no suit to counter to. So as far as I'm

00:50:01.400 concerned, the matter is now over and resolved. And we can all go on living our lives, me with a

00:50:09.620 completely of a clean record, hopefully. And and admission from her that she may have made a

00:50:17.440 mistake. Now, I'm I'm bound not to go beyond the statements we agreed to, but the statements we

00:50:23.340 agreed to are are pretty darn good from my point of view. Well, I mean, the audience should know that

00:50:29.280 it's obvious to me just as an attorney, this is as much as she could possibly ever admit in a statement

00:50:34.060 because she's said repeatedly, including under oath, something different than this. So you can't

00:50:41.140 come out and be like, I lied. I lied while I was under oath. This is a pretty good statement for you

00:50:45.800 to get as as the defendant in her case. So congratulations to you. Do you this has been

00:50:51.680 on you? This has been weighing on you. I know your fans know it. I hear I listen to your podcast all the

00:50:57.820 time and I love it. Do you feel relieved? Do you feel, you know, liberated, vindicated? What? How do you

00:51:03.720 feel? Well, I feel for my family, particularly relieved. Obviously, this has been a burden that

00:51:11.320 she acknowledges. And I commend her for for being able to recognize finally that she may have made

00:51:22.100 a mistake, a terrible mistake that that caused me a lot of grief. But I'm pleased that she's now

00:51:29.240 recognized her mistake. And I wish her well. Just take a step back, Professor, because I remember

00:51:38.460 in preparing for our very first like in-depth interview together when your name was first

00:51:43.020 even thrown into the mix in Virginia Giuffre's world, because, you know, she's she was abused 1.00

00:51:48.160 by Jeffrey Epstein. She was mishandled and she was farmed out. This is the one who is the Prince

00:51:53.000 Andrew accuser, too. She somebody. It was someone else who suggested to her, hey, what about Alan

00:52:01.360 Dershowitz? He's super famous. He's really well respected like that, as I understand it,

00:52:06.640 is how is how the Alan Dershowitz name first came to her. Well, I can't comment on anything

00:52:13.720 beyond what I said. But if you read my book, you'll see all of that is laid out there with

00:52:20.140 emails and tape statements and all of that. And everybody can decide for themselves. I'm

00:52:26.580 only permitted to say that she is now recognized that she made a mistake. And that's that's

00:52:31.800 enough for me to move on with my life and to allow my family to move on with with their

00:52:38.800 lives as well. So I'm very gratified. Now, I'm going to hold you to this. I'm going to hold

00:52:43.340 you. That's it. Now, you should allow this burden to be off of your shoulders and you should

00:52:48.000 sell because I know I understand when you're a respected, accomplished man such as yourself.

00:52:53.400 This has got to be a terrible, terrible thing to labor under, even though, you know, you've said

00:52:58.140 repeatedly this was not true. People wanted to believe it in large measure because you defended

00:53:03.880 Trump. So the left love to believe it. So I hope you take this as the relief of burden that it should

00:53:10.660 be. Well, I'm going to continue to go on and do half of my cases pro bono represent for people,

00:53:16.980 women who have been represent people who've been falsely convicted. I do half of my work. I have

00:53:24.280 all through my life pro bono. I've just written my 51st book and I'm working already on my 52nd book.

00:53:32.220 So I'm 83 years old. I want to move on from this accusation. And she acknowledges that I've

00:53:40.180 denied it from the beginning. And she now acknowledges that she recognizes she may have

00:53:45.680 made a mistake. So as far as I'm concerned, the book on this is closed.

00:53:49.520 Good. Let's leave it there. Professor, great to see you on this election day. Thank you for coming

00:53:54.040 on and breaking the news here. Thank you. I'm glad to have an opportunity to tell you about it

00:53:58.620 because you covered the story from the very beginning. So thank you. Well, yes. And the

00:54:02.940 audience should also know that I took a hard look at it with an open mind and was not biased toward

00:54:07.440 or against you in the beginning. And my my objective look at it, having read all the stuff

00:54:11.380 in the Miami Herald, having read your book, having read her accusations was it didn't add up in your

00:54:16.320 case. She did not. She did not. It was too inconsistent, too many crazy dates that didn't add up and so

00:54:21.660 on. In any event, I'm glad to see it go away. All the best to you, Alan.

00:54:24.700 Wow. All right. You know, sometimes you don't get results like that in the legal system and it's a

00:54:31.480 bummer. But I'm sure that look, there's a lesson here, I think, for everybody. Fight if you're

00:54:37.120 wrongly accused. Right. You should fight. And for women who actually may make a mistake in the Me Too

00:54:44.860 movement, whether the mistake is genuine or whether the mistake is listening to some bad people to do

00:54:51.820 something, you know, is wrong. It's never too late to walk it back. So happy to see that resolved.

00:54:56.540 OK, let's move on back to the elections. All eyes in Pennsylvania, as we said last hour and the hugely

00:55:01.580 important Senate race between Dr. Oz and John Fetterman. Here with me today is someone who knows

00:55:06.260 Pennsylvania better than just about anybody. And that is Selena Zito, a reporter for The Washington

00:55:10.700 Examiner and columnist at The New York Post, who's going to update us on everything we know about

00:55:14.500 what's happening today. Welcome back, Selena. So what do we know about the battles? Because there are

00:55:20.840 a lot of headlines today about legal battles around the Pennsylvania vote. Right. So thanks for having

00:55:27.500 me on. I think it was late yesterday. The Fetterman campaign issued a statement saying that they were

00:55:34.700 going to legally challenge the ability to count the mail-in ballots that came in that were either

00:55:42.940 wrongly dated or not dated at all. Something that the Supreme Court just rolled on last week that it

00:55:49.660 is unallowed and unaccepted. They are supposed to be put to the side and that's where they stay.

00:55:58.940 People were notified in local newspapers. The information went out everywhere. I mean,

00:56:04.680 there wasn't, it would be impossible to know, to not know that you made a mistake and your county has

00:56:11.380 tried to find you. Uh, and, and so with, with the idea that if you, if you did it wrong, you can come

00:56:19.640 in on election day and, and vote. And, and so that's the only legal challenges we have going on right

00:56:26.560 now. I'm going to be optimistic about today. I think that this race may be even called late this

00:56:33.940 evening and maybe not as close as we predicted or, or that was talked about maybe a month ago.

00:56:41.100 Wow. Why do you think that? Uh, I think that Dr. Oz, who many people were skeptical about in the

00:56:47.620 beginning in terms of really putting the work in to earn the voters, but also becoming, um, a good,

00:56:53.740 uh, a politician. I don't mean that in the, you know, pejorative way. I mean that in that going out

00:57:02.020 there, doing good retail politics, uh, going into the areas and listening to voters, doing it when

00:57:08.280 there's not a bunch of press around. Trust me, I was with him a hundred times across the state.

00:57:14.380 Most of the time I was the only reporter there. Uh, so these things were genuine, um, sort of, uh,

00:57:22.840 trying to understand the voter and he's understand also how to build a coalition. It is elections are

00:57:29.460 about a lot of things. It's about movement. It's about motivation. It's brake pedal. It's gas pedal,

00:57:35.220 right? There's all kinds of things that motivate voters. But if you don't build a coalition,

00:57:41.880 if you don't understand it, can no matter what party you're in, if it can't be just one,

00:57:47.880 just the base vote, you're not going to live in an election that way. Even Donald Trump understood

00:57:53.280 that very well in 2016, I would say that he didn't understand it as well in 2020. Uh, and without a

00:58:01.200 coalition, without a variety of different people that may not share a lot of the same, um, um, uh,

00:58:08.780 geography may not all share the same sort of, um, values, but do come together, um, um, on enough

00:58:17.220 issues that they are going to vote for you. Hmm. Um, I'm, I'm surprised to hear your confidence

00:58:23.600 that we might not even need, you know, a lot of time to count the votes that it could be a clear

00:58:27.880 victory for Dr. Oz tonight. You're out on a limb, uh, which is exciting to hear any reporter do on the

00:58:33.220 day of the election. But this is what I was told so far on the early vote in Pennsylvania. Uh, 1.16

00:58:39.280 million early votes, 69% of those came from registered Democrats, 21% from registered Republicans,

00:58:45.480 8% from independents. Not a surprise. The Democrats have typically taken advantage of the mail-in

00:58:50.360 balloting. The Republicans have tended to be day of voters. They don't trust the system. They don't

00:58:55.060 want their votes handled by just anybody. But what do you make of those numbers and what should we make

00:59:00.980 of those numbers? Those numbers should have been higher for Democrats. They should have been in the

00:59:05.760 high seventies to the eighties. Oh, okay. And so that, that is the, um, that is their challenge.

00:59:13.600 Now, I mean, there's always surprises. There's always upsets, but the trajectory and following

00:59:20.120 this, this, this election in the past month has been not just about John Betterman's performance

00:59:27.500 at that debate, but also what he has run on. He has failed to run on any issues. If you go to his,

00:59:35.160 um, Twitter feed, it's about memes and, and, and New Jersey. Uh, and there's no, there's no depth

00:59:43.000 there. And if you go to his events, he's like, you know, forget the filibuster. Nobody's running on

00:59:50.000 the filibuster. People are really concerned. I mean, when I filled up my gas tank yesterday,

00:59:56.600 it was $4 and 19 cents a gallon. It was $89 to fill up my gas tank. That's what people were running on.

01:00:03.840 Those, those are big concerns. And, and let alone the problem we are facing with diesel.

01:00:10.060 I mean, you, I was on the turnpike about a week ago and the, there are signs for the gas station on

01:00:16.180 the turnpike. No diesel. Diesel is what makes an agriculture state hum. You need diesel to transport

01:00:24.740 goods. You need diesel on the farms. We've got a huge problem coming and people understand it because

01:00:31.280 they feel it every day on these mail-in ballots. When did they get counted? Because some of the

01:00:37.000 states have been counting the ballots before election day and some won't open them until

01:00:42.500 election day. And those are the states we expect to lag. Yeah. They don't open until this evening

01:00:48.400 when polls close. Uh, and that was a veto done by Democrat governor, Tom Wolf to, to veto the bill

01:00:57.100 that the state legislature put forth. I think it was last year to have them counted, um, on, you know,

01:01:04.860 election morning or days before. So that's why they'll lag behind. I will say here in Western

01:01:11.540 Pennsylvania, Alligate County does an amazing job of, uh, and a very efficient job in counting their

01:01:17.720 ballots. Philadelphia, not so much, but now they're saying that's, this is what's leading the Democrats

01:01:23.720 to say, beware the, the red mirage, the day of vote coming in favoring team red. And then by the time

01:01:30.400 they get around to opening up the mail-in box, uh, ballots, which favor the, the team blue, um,

01:01:35.820 the red mirage gets erased with real Democrat vote that was just mailed in. And therefore we don't want

01:01:42.700 to listen to your claims of, you know, election meddling. It was just mail-in vote outnumbered day

01:01:46.960 of vote. Right. And, and, and I think people have a general understanding of that, but in Pennsylvania,

01:01:52.360 Philadelphia, it's been a while since Philadelphia's votes have changed an election. Um, the, the energy

01:01:59.040 and the excitement is west of that. And, and, and if the, if the voters show up in counties like

01:02:06.700 Luzerno, like if you're a nerd and you want to watch what happens tonight, go onto the Pennsylvania

01:02:12.760 elections, um, website, uh, New York times also links. They also do, um, a pretty good job of updating the,

01:02:20.720 uh, the numbers coming in. Watch Luzern County, watch Erie County, Westmoreland County, Washington

01:02:27.660 County, Bucks County. That's where this, uh, there, if there is an elevated turnout in those counties,

01:02:34.780 it doesn't matter what happens in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. That's what I understood about 2016

01:02:41.020 with Trump. I never looked at those two cities. Those two cities didn't matter. What may need to

01:02:47.460 matter? What mattered was those counties having an elevated turnout, 2000 more votes in 2016 in each

01:02:55.020 of those counties over the 2012 numbers for Mitt Romney. People forget that Barack Obama won

01:03:02.860 Pennsylvania by almost 11 percentage points. And in 2008, that dropped down to just under five

01:03:10.400 percentage points in 2000 and 2012. So, so there was movement there. Pennsylvania became 0.4% more

01:03:19.580 conservative. So all Trump needed to do in 2016 was outperform 10 counties by 2000 votes. And those

01:03:27.660 are the counties I'm going to be watching this evening. Okay. Got it. Now let's talk about the

01:03:32.880 president and his messaging going into this race, uh, and his, I don't know if we're going to call it a

01:03:38.340 gaffe. I'll let the audience decide on coal. Um, he came out on Friday, uh, and he was giving a speech

01:03:45.880 in California. It seemed really clear what his message was. The white house is desperately trying

01:03:52.900 to walk it back, suggesting it wasn't clear and he didn't hear well. And I'll get to all the walkbacks,

01:04:00.020 but here is the, I think with what they would recognize was the original sin and sought nine on

01:04:05.400 Friday. I was in Massachusetts about a month ago on the site of the largest old coal plant in

01:04:13.480 America. Guess what? It costs them too much money. They can't count. No one's building new coal plants

01:04:19.240 because they can't rely on it. Even if they have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of the existence

01:04:24.520 of the plant. So it's going to become a wind generation and all they're doing is going to save

01:04:30.640 them a hell of a lot of money and using the same transmission line that transmitted as a coal-fired

01:04:35.220 electric on. We're going to be shutting these plants down all across America.

01:04:40.960 Wait, what? We are? What? Yeah. Okay. So now, and I'll give you, give you the floor in one sec.

01:04:47.600 Uh, Karine Jean-Pierre comes out and tries to explain it away. Of course, reading as she always does,

01:04:55.140 uh, from her notes or pre-prepared notes. Here's her explanation. Some of you were there. It was, uh,

01:05:01.740 it was loud and hard, uh, to hear, I think, or maybe not, uh, exactly what, uh, what, uh, what was

01:05:10.180 being said, but I currently don't want to get into punditry from here and, and why we did it or do,

01:05:15.260 uh, or, you know, paid, you know, or do it, did it on TV. But I spoke to, to this over the weekend,

01:05:20.840 and the president words, we believe were twisted. Um, and, uh, we were very clear about that. And

01:05:25.760 anyone who knows Joe Biden knows he comes from a coal, uh, a coal country from Scranton, Pennsylvania.

01:05:32.020 His great grandfather was a, a mining engineer, as you all know, president Biden knows that the men

01:05:37.520 and women of coal country built this nation, and he has spent his presidency fighting for coal

01:05:42.880 communities so that they too, uh, can benefit from the energy, from the energy transition we're in right

01:05:48.720 now. Again, the reason why we put out, uh, that statement to your, you, you asked me about the

01:05:53.180 Genesis, uh, we believe his words were twisted and we just wanted to make sure there was some clarity.

01:05:58.500 They were twisted. So, and lastly, uh, Joe Manchin from another coal state, West Virginia comes out

01:06:04.960 and calls these comments offensive and disgusting, outrageous, divorced from reality, and says comments

01:06:12.580 like these are the reason the American people are losing trust in president Biden. And they instead

01:06:16.480 believe he doesn't understand the need to have an all in energy policy that would keep our nation

01:06:21.760 totally energy independent and secure. Uh, what do you make of this and how does it play electorally?

01:06:28.260 Plays electorally terribly. I had a piece today in the Washington Examiner. People can check it out

01:06:33.040 at selenazito.com, but I laid out the four images that I believe were the, each turning point in this

01:06:38.920 election. And it began when I went to South Dakota, right after the president, um, Biden. So, um,

01:06:44.220 signed as executive orders, uh, on, on the Keystone pipeline and looking in the faces of, of the people

01:06:50.640 that work on the pipelines, but also in the businesses that supported in motels and, and

01:06:56.340 barbershops and mechanic shops. And then the next image I would, I would point to was what happened on

01:07:02.840 the end of August in 2021, last year. And I was driving across the country and I, I, this,

01:07:09.640 this image gutted me. It was in Missouri is in front of the old Jackson County courthouse. And there

01:07:16.380 you saw 13 chairs with, with the, um, with the, the flags running at half staff. And, and this was

01:07:24.620 mourning that, um, that botched, uh, attempt by the Biden administration, um, in terms of how they removed

01:07:32.320 our troops from Afghanistan. And then I looked at, um, that image almost exactly a year later,

01:07:39.980 where president Biden is standing at independence hall. He's flanked by two, um, Marines. And this

01:07:47.160 was this sort of dark and red image, but the words that he used in terms of, uh, you know,

01:07:53.120 what Trump supporters are, who Trump supporters are, even if you weren't Trump supporter,

01:07:58.820 your family member is a fascist is a mega, mega mantra. I can't even come up with all the adjectives

01:08:06.200 that they use. And I think the final image of this election to me and what's what, what reminded me

01:08:12.520 what people vote on was that Michael McGuire in Kentucky. And I think all of us, or most of us

01:08:18.400 have seen that image of that father, the coal miner, he's still covered in dirt, but yet he made,

01:08:23.860 he made sure that he got to take to his, his four-year-old son to that basketball game in

01:08:29.000 Kentucky. And while all of, a lot of us in this country don't work with our hands, we do know that

01:08:35.920 our families come from that tradition and we associate with that. And those are the people

01:08:41.700 that have been demonized for the past two years. So if you want all that, I just, all that imagery

01:08:47.580 is what tells me. And then you top it off with those remarks about coal, about closing coal pants

01:08:53.660 down. And I just think that the Democrats have wildly not understand why they were given power

01:08:59.740 in Washington. Biden has not understood that. And voters are going to let them know loud and clear

01:09:06.500 why they, they are firing a lot of them. Hmm. I mean, it's loud and clear. We're going to be

01:09:13.260 shutting these plants down all across America. It, they're not, that's not twisted and they

01:09:19.700 weren't hard to hear. I think Americans heard it loud and clear. Selena Zito. All right. We'll talk

01:09:26.160 after, we'll talk after today or tomorrow, whenever we're going to find out and, uh, we'll figure out

01:09:30.480 what happened and why. Always a pleasure, my friend. Okay. Have a great day. You too. Coming up,

01:09:35.340 we're digging into the rest of the races with Matt Continetti and Doug Schoen. We've got both sides of

01:09:38.880 the aisle represented. Plus what happens if, and when the GOP takes over Congress. Hmm. Don't go

01:09:45.000 away. As of today, nearly 70% of the country believes we're on the wrong track. According

01:09:54.220 to the real clear politics average of all polls, 70%, that's devastating. That's the problem for

01:09:59.420 the Democrats today. And a majority disapproves of the president's handling of the economy,

01:10:04.340 foreign policy, immigration, inflation, crime, and abortion. So what's going to happen tonight?

01:10:10.560 Doug Schoen is a democratic pollster and consultant. Matthew Continetti is the founding editor of the

01:10:15.420 Washington free beacon and a senior fellow at the American enterprise Institute. All right, guys. So

01:10:21.220 that's the question, right? What is going to happen tonight? Before I get you to answer that,

01:10:26.020 I just want to give you a little news that broke this morning on polling stations and problems in

01:10:31.880 voting. This, this is not good. Um, here's just an example. Tom Bevin, he's real clear politics.com,

01:10:38.400 uh, talks about his parents who live in Mesa. They, they, uh, just heard they went to two different

01:10:44.640 locations. They were unable to vote because the machines were not working. First location had 117

01:10:49.120 people in line. Second one had over 90 waiting to vote, uh, says the vast majority of Republicans vote

01:10:55.300 on election day. So this will disproportionately affect the GOP. He was reacting to two other

01:11:02.160 tweets in which somebody noted there were long lines in Anthem, Arizona with poll workers, workers

01:11:07.800 explaining that the Maricopa County machines are not working. Another guy, a pollster, Rich Barris

01:11:12.880 says this started with a single location, then a few. Now it's sounding as this, as if this is widespread

01:11:17.060 and very serious voting problems in Arizona is the bottom line. In Maricopa County, according to a

01:11:22.300 Washington post reporter, about 10% of the polling places are experiencing problems with

01:11:27.240 tabulators. One machine became operative after it was clean. Voters can still place their ballots in

01:11:31.980 a slot in a locked container. It will be counted at the, at the downtown tabulation center tonight.

01:11:38.180 Some similar problems reported in New Jersey as well. So is this par for the course? This always

01:11:43.080 happens. We're just paying attention to it now because everybody's been, you know, hinky about

01:11:46.460 election integrity or does this concern you? Matt, I'll start with you.

01:11:50.560 I think it's slightly concerning and I hope that the Arizona officials get a handle on it. I mean,

01:11:56.880 the election day has just started there. So hopefully it gives them some time. But I think,

01:12:00.820 Megan, the larger point is, you know, Brazil had a huge election recently. Israel had a big election,

01:12:07.480 smaller population, of course. And both countries were able to get the results quickly. I mean, that

01:12:12.540 night. And it continues to be an embarrassment to the United States, I think, that some of the local

01:12:18.040 administration of our voting practices are so out of whack that there are these delays and bugs. They

01:12:24.020 need to be fixed and they can be fixed. That's what happened in Florida after 2000. Florida will be one

01:12:29.080 of the earliest states to report all of all of their results this evening. That's the way it should be.

01:12:34.360 I've got some more depressing news for you. Someone won the two billion dollar Powerball jackpot and it

01:12:41.180 wasn't us. Somebody in California. One person, a single ticket sold in California wins the two

01:12:48.760 billion dollar Powerball jackpot. That's so exciting. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Okay,

01:12:55.340 sorry. Back to us and our lame lives. So, Doug Schoen, you're a lifelong Democrat. You've worked

01:13:00.180 on campaigns. What are you predicting today? What's going to happen?

01:13:03.820 I'm predicting, notwithstanding my party history and heritage, that the Republicans win the House with

01:13:11.280 a 30 to 35 seat majority and they win the Senate with probably 51, 52 seats. So, I see for the

01:13:22.120 reasons you suggested at the outset, Megan, given the low approval ratings of the Biden administration

01:13:28.520 across a range of issues combined with the sense the country's off on the wrong track, it's going to

01:13:35.160 be a decisive and clear Republican victory. That's my prediction. Let me drill down with you on that

01:13:40.620 for a minute because Amy Walter of Cook Political Report had a piece out today saying, you know, we can

01:13:45.460 have three scenarios. We could have the tsunami. We could have just sort of a wavy or we could have a

01:13:50.700 red ripple, you know, like in descending order in terms of how many red votes and red states and so on.

01:13:56.360 And her classic tsunami election said, okay, you'd get 30 House seats, like you just said, 1.00

01:14:02.020 and the GOP would get three to four Senate seats. So, a little lower than you said.

01:14:06.100 She said, here's what needs to happen for us to see that. Dem voters have to be less motivated than 0.98

01:14:11.920 Republicans and Republicans have to turn out at much higher levels. And then independent voters

01:14:17.260 have to break decisively toward the GOP by 12 to 15 points. So, in your scenario, if you have enough

01:14:23.440 Republican motivation and independence siding with Republicans to drive up a 30 net House seats for

01:14:31.520 Republicans, why wouldn't that translate to more three, four Senate seats for the Republicans? 0.98

01:14:38.360 I think it will. And, you know, the only reason not, Megan, is, and the polling is showing what you

01:14:47.360 were just suggesting and Amy Walter was suggesting there needed to be for somewhere between a red wave

01:14:53.220 and a so-called red tsunami. The polls polling out suggest that. But the only thing that countervails

01:15:02.440 that is the Senate race polling is all very, very close. Now, the trends are all with the Republicans,

01:15:09.180 but we're talking about a point or two a week and the leads are within the margin of error. So,

01:15:16.200 it's certainly theoretically possible that I could be overstating the degree of Republican.

01:15:21.980 Well, and what about, what about Doug enthusiasm on that point that she raises? The latest NBC poll shows

01:15:28.180 that the Democratic enthusiasm has matched the GOP enthusiasm. That's not what we saw prior to other

01:15:35.980 red wave midterm elections. There was a considerable gap. We've had plenty of other polls, including

01:15:41.180 yes, polls that I've done showing that Republican enthusiasm is far in excess of Democratic enthusiasm.

01:15:50.100 So you think it's an outlier question given the challenges with polls, I'm skeptical of using any

01:15:56.980 one poll to be decisive or determinate. Okay, Matthew, what do you think? That was that's her tsunami

01:16:04.300 version. 30 seats, as Doug's also predicting, and three to four Senate seats go red. Her middle,

01:16:11.100 she calls it a wavy election, not a tsunami, not a ripple, but wavy, is GOP gains in the House in the

01:16:18.560 20s. And just as a reminder for our audience, they only need a net of six to take control in the House. 1.00

01:16:23.680 She says 20s in the 20s and a likely one seat gain in the Senate, which again, would be enough

01:16:29.620 for control of the Senate. What do you think? Well, I think Doug is about right. I don't think

01:16:35.860 there's much disagreement there. I'd say 20 to 30 seats, maybe more in the House, and then three to

01:16:42.800 four pickups in the Senate. It's going to be a good night for Republicans, Megan. It might be as

01:16:48.600 Selena Zito suggested on your program earlier, an earlier night than we expect. I mean, as you just said,

01:16:54.300 since you only need to net six seats for the Republican takeover of the House, it's possible

01:16:59.680 that the Republicans will have been called the House victors by 10 o'clock, because many of these

01:17:07.560 seats in Virginia or New York, there are seats that are competitive in Connecticut, in New Jersey. I

01:17:12.900 mean, they can flip pretty quick. And so I think we'll know the House result pretty soon. And then,

01:17:18.460 you know, the early indicators will be, does Herschel Walker emerge strong in Georgia? Does Ted Budd in

01:17:26.320 North Carolina have a pretty decisive victory? How is it looking in Pennsylvania? I mean, obviously,

01:17:32.300 we're going to have to wait for the cities, even if they don't determine the final result. But if it's

01:17:36.300 a strong out of the gate effort for Oz, then I think we'll have a pretty good sense of where the Senate

01:17:43.780 will be even by the 11 o'clock news. So I think I think it will be a it will be a big Republican

01:17:48.880 victory and a and a decisive one as well. All right, let me run this by you, Doug. My old pal,

01:17:55.440 Simon Rosenberg, trying to find his piece. I'll find it right. I have so much paper. It's like,

01:18:01.580 God, OK, hold on. It's at the end of my packet here. My great producer, Kelly, gave it to me.

01:18:05.820 Um, Simon Rosenberg, old pal from Fox News has he feels good. He's excited. He's a dem. 0.53

01:18:13.040 And he's at a dem think tank in D.C. And he said on Saturday,

01:18:18.920 D's continue to crush it in the early vote. The nonpartisan Senate polls are encouraging.

01:18:25.640 He says Nevada in particular early vote got much more D last night. Red wave may come,

01:18:31.300 but not here yet. He goes on. Um, again, looking at Senate averages of only nonpartisan independent

01:18:38.880 polls shows no red waves, no wave D's favor to win the Senate. Still early vote data continues to be

01:18:45.960 incredibly encouraging for Democrats across the country. It's at the upper end of what was possible

01:18:50.740 continuation of D over performance in the House races and Kansas. That vote was a while back and

01:18:57.560 it got a whole lot better again in Nevada last night. So do you agree with that?

01:19:03.640 You know, I think we had similar reports, Megan, in 2020, uh, about the early vote, the mail-in vote

01:19:13.820 for Joe Biden. And if you looked at the polls and you looked at the ultimate results, Donald Trump and

01:19:22.300 the Republicans exceeded the final polls by three to five points across the board. So I don't draw

01:19:31.820 necessarily the same conclusions Simon does. Now he could be right here in New York, where I am today.

01:19:40.060 Uh, the early vote is very encouraging for Kathy Hochul, the, uh, governor who's running against Lee

01:19:47.380 Zeldin, but I don't believe that given our voting system and given that most Republicans vote on

01:19:54.620 election day, I don't believe that it is determinative perhaps in the way that Simon is suggesting.

01:20:03.620 On the subject of Kathy Hochul, uh, we talked in our first hour about this, but I didn't play the sound.

01:20:08.400 She, she has decided, I think, just to gaslight the, the New York state voters, Matthew. She's,

01:20:15.840 she's going into election day saying all this messaging about crime is a scare tactic by the

01:20:21.780 GOP. Here she is. 0.96

01:20:24.040 He has been hyperventilated, trying to scare people for months. And New Yorkers are onto it. All the

01:20:31.560 legitimate media organizations have called him out for what he is doing. Fear mongering.

01:20:38.340 And it's not just here in New York. That is what the Republicans playbook all across this country.

01:20:43.120 All you need to know is that the democratic states are safer than Republican states. Check out the facts.

01:20:49.580 Democratic states are safer than Republican states. Check out the facts. We actually did a fact check on

01:20:54.700 that when it was claimed by somebody else with Raphael Mangal of, um, Manhattan Institute, but it's not

01:21:00.480 true. Uh, it's, it's the blue cities in the red states that are, that are making that the case, 0.75

01:21:05.540 the blue cities run by blue mayors. But, um, what do you make of this tactic of just, it's not true.

01:21:11.340 Don't, don't believe it.

01:21:14.660 Is that for me, Megan?

01:21:16.300 No, that's for Matthew.

01:21:17.540 Sure. Okay.

01:21:19.120 Okay. I'll take, I'll take a stab at it first.

01:21:21.680 Sure.

01:21:21.780 Uh, governor Hochul is a case study in denial. I mean, it might be a winning strategy to get out

01:21:27.720 her base and the democratic base is large enough in New York that, uh, that would definitely give 1.00

01:21:33.480 her an advantage against her challenger, uh, Congressman Lee Zeldin. But, uh, it just seems

01:21:38.880 to me to be, uh, uh, uh, uh, a crazy tactic. I mean, with the independence in New, throughout New

01:21:45.860 York, especially anyone who's been to the city recently has seen its decline. I mean, it's not a

01:21:50.040 pretty picture. Um, the headlines about subway killings, uh, it seemed to be every single day.

01:21:56.140 So for her to kind of try to, uh, turn into this, um, uh, sentiment against crime and this desire

01:22:03.520 for public safety, uh, seems to me to be ridiculous. Um, and maybe it will work, uh, just

01:22:10.620 because of the size of the democratic population in New York, but I think it's going to be a pretty

01:22:14.820 close election in New York. Do you think so too, Doug? I think it'll be close. I, for the reasons,

01:22:20.820 uh, Matthew suggests, I think Hochul has a clear advantage, but what I would say, and I agree with 1.00

01:22:27.280 him on this too, why wouldn't any rational person, Democrat or Republican acknowledge people's fears

01:22:35.320 about crime and say, we're trying to redouble our efforts to reassure the public, to provide more

01:22:41.960 law enforcement. And in the case of New York, get rid of cashless bail and liberal criminal justice

01:22:48.400 policies that certainly seem to the electorate to be facilitating, uh, more, uh, violent crime.

01:22:57.360 What, I know you've been critical of your own party on messaging and why they're not,

01:23:01.520 they're not talking about the things that we know are resonating with voters. They do care about

01:23:05.400 inflation and the economy and the border and crime. And yet you don't hear those things discussed.

01:23:10.300 Um, you know, I, I, I do wonder whether even talking about those things would have saved them

01:23:17.280 with the president who's got an approval rating hovering around 40, you know, like the public

01:23:21.840 has turned on the top Democrat. And I, I wonder how much they could have distanced themselves from

01:23:27.120 him with better messaging. What do you think? It's a fair question. And, and, and I've privately had

01:23:33.460 the same question in my mind, but for the reasons that Simon Rosenberg suggests in those close Senate

01:23:40.540 and close house races, I think they would have done better acknowledging people's fears of crime

01:23:46.480 and pain due to inflation, rather than just talking about things like abortion.

01:23:52.460 Hmm. Matthew, what do you make of it? You know, there's been a lot of talk about how the,

01:23:56.560 the Republicans ran the wrong candidates. They went to mega maga and put and ran folks like

01:24:04.220 JD Vance or Blake masters or even Carrie Lake. Um, they seem to be doing pretty well. And I,

01:24:11.300 I'm just not sure that the, the, the, all the blame that was heaped on those candidates early on

01:24:16.780 is panning out on this election day. They look pretty good in these polls.

01:24:19.900 Well, um, they do, uh, there now, some of the candidates have performed less well than,

01:24:27.860 uh, a more conventional Republican might have. Um, I think of candidate masters in Arizona in

01:24:34.460 particular, but at the same time, he could very well win and it could be a good night for Republicans

01:24:39.840 across the board, uh, no matter, uh, their political experience or, um, statements they've made on the

01:24:45.720 campaign. A lot of the people, uh, expected myself included early on that Republicans might have a

01:24:52.520 candidate problem, but it actually, Megan seems to me to have turned out to be the Democrats who have

01:24:57.320 a candidate problem. I mean, take, uh, the democratic nominee for governor in Arizona, Katie Hobbs. 0.99

01:25:02.800 She has refused to debate Carrie Lake and Lake has very cleverly turned that into, uh, uh, uh, 1.00

01:25:10.020 an argument for her election. Um, if you think of, uh, governor Hochul, who we were just talking about

01:25:16.560 another candidate, incumbent Democrat, never elected, by the way, uh, she kind of fell into

01:25:21.680 the job. I mean, she is just kind of had a very, um, clumsy, uh, campaign for, for election. So I think,

01:25:29.840 um, the candidate quality can work both ways. And we've seen in some of these races where the, um,

01:25:37.000 Democrats are just not as strong, uh, as some of the Republicans are. There are a few democratic

01:25:43.900 house members, uh, Abigail Spanberger, Spanberger, Alyssa Slotkin, Jared Golden in Maine, who, you

01:25:50.420 know, are quality candidates. They might be able to tough out the challenges, but the truth is it does

01:25:55.440 kind of start from the top. And that is the weakest candidates, uh, on the democratic side are not up for

01:26:01.560 election. And that's president Biden and vice president Harris. And the fact that they're ending

01:26:06.720 their campaigns in places like Maryland or New York or Illinois, I think to me says, um, speaks

01:26:15.320 volumes about the state of the democratic party headed into election day. What are you going to

01:26:19.880 be looking at tonight, Doug? Like what are your early bellwethers to figure out tsunami wave ripple

01:26:25.160 or nothing? You know, I think Matt had it right earlier. I think we'll see in Georgia with Herschel

01:26:32.800 Walker, how well or badly he does and the gubernatorial race as well between Kemp and

01:26:39.180 Stacey Abrams, but also some of these blue state house races. There's a lot of polling. Um, we don't

01:26:47.040 know really how accurate suggesting that in states like Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, that there's

01:26:53.900 a very real chance of Republican breakthroughs. There are four or five seats here in New York that are at

01:26:59.640 risk. And if the Republicans show strength there, I think we could see the tsunami type results that

01:27:07.480 Amy Walter and you were alluding to. One thing the Democrats were praying for yesterday, openly

01:27:14.760 praying to God for was that Trump would announce his presidential run. Um, people on the far left,

01:27:21.500 like Olbermann were like, please, please help your party snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by

01:27:27.540 announcing tonight. He didn't do it, but he did announce that he's going to make an announcement

01:27:33.340 on November 15th. Um, Matt, what do you make of Trump sort of teasing that the big announcement is

01:27:39.860 coming back in the heads of Democrats who may not love him, but maybe getting ready to vote Republican,

01:27:46.720 right? Like I know a fair amount of those Democrats who he's too much for them, but they are going to vote

01:27:51.200 read today. Yeah, I do think it was a good move by Trump not to announce yesterday. It was an example

01:27:59.000 of him, I think, thinking in terms of the party rather than, uh, himself. Um, but, uh, he's definitely

01:28:06.340 going to try to claim credit, um, for some of the Republican victories tonight. And, uh, I think he'll be

01:28:13.020 effective in doing that, especially if some of the Senate candidates that he endorsed and really

01:28:18.060 was the definitive figure in getting them the nomination, um, sail through. So it will very

01:28:25.360 quickly, I think, turn from the headlines coming out of tonight, which will be about some of the new

01:28:30.740 stars in the Republican party, which will include a reelected governor, uh, Rhonda Santos of Florida

01:28:37.480 to next week. Trump will try to take the spotlight back and, um, make it about him and his, his reelection

01:28:45.240 in 2024. But I would say too, that 2024 is long time, a long time from now and a lot's going to

01:28:52.520 happen. So, um, I, I understand why Trump would want to announce early, I mean, to kind of deter other

01:28:58.500 people from entering the field, possibly deter the justice department from making an indictment,

01:29:03.120 uh, on the documents. Um, but at the same time to, for Trump to simply announce he, there's going to

01:29:11.280 be some lag time, I think, uh, before a campaign, uh, really starts where he might, he might be

01:29:16.640 somewhat vulnerable. Hmm. You know, Doug, what typically gets going in like the following spring,

01:29:21.240 uh, they all start announcing one by one. And then the following summer, you're it's on with

01:29:25.480 debates. That's how it was. It's always, always been. Um, the thing about Trump though, Doug is

01:29:29.780 he's changed this electorate. If a lot of these Republicans who are looking at possible victories

01:29:34.360 in these more moderate cities can thank him for bringing way more Hispanics into the Republican

01:29:40.120 party than wherever they are. The, the, the shoring up of the, the working class, not just white 0.99

01:29:44.560 working class, but just the working class in these cities where they weren't, they weren't voting at 0.87

01:29:49.180 all. And if they were voting, they were voting for Dems. I mean, that is, that is something Trump

01:29:53.640 can rightly take credit for. And it's a huge dynamic in these races today. You're undeniably correct,

01:30:03.800 Megan. And that is precisely something that I am sure we will hear from Trump.

01:30:10.120 Many times, including, but not limited to his announcement, uh, on November 15th. But the

01:30:16.360 reason he's doing it is he's trying, I think, as, um, Matthew suggested correctly to block the field,

01:30:25.120 but particularly and specifically block Ron DeSantis. DeSantis is going to win a big, potentially

01:30:33.000 double digit, uh, majority tonight. And there will be a lot of energy among Republicans,

01:30:40.600 particularly the donor class who don't want to deal with Trump, notwithstanding how he has changed

01:30:46.360 the Republican party in the electorate and will be encouraging DeSantis. And Trump is trying to

01:30:52.900 discourage DeSantis and the donor class by this early announcement.

01:30:58.060 But will the Democrats listen, if, if things go this way and, you know, we should know there is a

01:31:03.060 possibility it could not go the GOP's way. Can't see how that happens in the house, but certainly it

01:31:07.780 could happen in the Senate. Um, but if it goes this way, red, red wave of some sort, do the Democrats

01:31:14.840 stop and say, okay, we did spend too much. Defund the police and no bail are ridiculous policies.

01:31:24.440 We are too woke as the third way introspective poll showed where they think we're too woke.

01:31:30.620 We're too preachy and we're out of step. They don't like, they believe we're going to spend more

01:31:35.120 on education. They like that, but they think we're doing the wrong things. Once we get the kids in the

01:31:39.800 schools, like, will there be a come to Jesus within the Dem party? Um, Megan, and I'll answer this

01:31:47.360 quickly. I'll be curious, uh, what Matt has to say. I was part of the effort to recast the Democratic

01:31:54.240 party after the tsunami that was 1994. The president then Bill Clinton had a clear and really strong

01:32:04.520 vision of how to recast the party. Then I have no sense at all that, um, Joe Biden and the people

01:32:13.300 around him will do a repositioning. I worry that the left is going to call for more decisive and more

01:32:21.380 compelling redistributive policies, open borders, a foreign policy that is less internationalist.

01:32:30.540 That's what I think we're going to get. I hope I'm wrong. I suspect I'm right.

01:32:36.080 Matt, what do you think?

01:32:37.700 Well, I think it's important to remember, as Doug points out that for president Clinton,

01:32:41.660 uh, it was almost a reversion to the mean in the sense that he was, he was a Southern Democrat.

01:32:47.020 You know, these, he understood why, uh, the concerns of, uh, voters in Arkansas, uh, who were flipping

01:32:53.620 from the Democratic to the Republican party. And he had run for years as a different kind of Democrat.

01:32:59.040 And so the Republican revolution in 1994 almost liberated Clinton to kind of get back to his,

01:33:06.120 uh, original political identity, uh, or at least the political identity of most of the 1980s and

01:33:11.680 early 1990s and triangulate against the Republicans. We don't have that with Biden,

01:33:16.000 right? I mean, Biden has always tried to be at where the center of the democratic party is.

01:33:20.580 He's trying to outdo Obama. Now he's, he's, his presidency is all about showing everybody that

01:33:26.560 he has been right all along for 50 years. Look where that's gotten us. And I also think that,

01:33:31.820 um, the democratic party, if it emerges, uh, from election night, uh, in the way that we've

01:33:37.700 been forecasting, it will be smaller and it will be much more liberal. And so this, this,

01:33:42.620 this new democratic caucus will be pushing Biden to the left. I do expect maybe Megan, 0.94

01:33:47.340 there to be calls for Biden to say that he will only serve one term to start.

01:33:52.600 That is a good point. Cause the people who are in jeopardy right now are the moderate Dems,

01:33:55.760 the, the hardcore liberal Dems, AOC. She's not in any jeopardy, you know, like their base is

01:34:00.400 their base and they're going to be reelected quickly before we go. Cause I know you did a

01:34:04.440 piece on this, Matthew. Uh, what investigations are we likely to see from the GOP Congress we expect

01:34:09.160 to come in?

01:34:09.700 Well, I think the first will be about the handling of the border and Secretary Mayorkas,

01:34:14.460 DHS. But then of course, there's going to be a whole lot about Hunter's laptop and the Biden

01:34:18.940 family business. And I expect us to spend a lot of next year on those subjects.

01:34:24.720 Fauci, COVID origins and, um, possibly, um, yeah, like you point out the, uh, the border and what's

01:34:31.940 happened down there. It's going to be interesting. Doug and Matthew, thank you so much for your

01:34:35.340 expertise.

01:34:35.860 Thank you, Megan. Matthew, a great pleasure.

01:34:38.400 Thanks, Doug.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - November 08, 2022

Election Day Predictions, and Media Smears, with Glenn Beck, Salena Zito, Matt Continetti, and Doug Schoen ｜ Ep. 429

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