The Megyn Kelly Show - EXCLUSIVE： Four Veterans Speak Out About Tim Walz's ＂Stolen Valor＂ and Truth About Retiring Before Iraq Deployment ｜ Ep. 876

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.100 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:14.780 A special episode for you today on stolen valor.

00:00:18.840 That term has been thrown around quite a bit when it comes to Governor Tim Walz,

00:00:22.900 the running mate of Kamala Harris, in this race in connection with his National Guard service.

00:00:27.780 Many men who served with Governor Walz when he was in the National Guard and who served under him

00:00:33.300 have come forward to accuse him of that sin, stealing valor from the men he served with

00:00:40.580 by inflating his military rank and by abandoning his men when they were deployed to Iraq.

00:00:47.920 He was supposed to go and he chose not to.

00:00:50.580 He's also said that he used a weapon in war, which he hasn't.

00:00:56.100 He was never deployed to war.

00:00:57.760 He was deployed to Italy for a short time in 2003.

00:01:01.400 But when his unit got the notice that they were being deployed to Iraq, Tim Walz retired.

00:01:07.400 And that has led to a lot of folks saying he abandoned his unit.

00:01:11.760 He cut and ran and he left the guys he trained to go fight on their own without the guy who trained them.

00:01:17.780 Tim Walz has been battling this for a long, long time.

00:01:19.700 He's been accused by many men of leaving the unit and inflating his rank falsely for the better part of 20 years now,

00:01:27.440 since he left his unit back in 2005.

00:01:32.640 And it's been brought to his attention.

00:01:34.360 It's been brought to the attention of his campaign office, both when he was a congressman,

00:01:38.200 when he was a governor, when he was announced as VP.

00:01:41.000 He never does anything about it.

00:01:43.900 He never really speaks out about it.

00:01:46.200 Just surrogates come out to defend him.

00:01:48.900 So what do these guys think?

00:01:51.560 Well, we've gotten four of them together for the first time to tell us directly what they think

00:01:56.620 and speak to the actual experience they had with Tim Walz and how they feel about what he did.

00:02:02.840 The four men that we've gathered together, maybe one of them familiar to you, and that's Tom Behrens.

00:02:07.780 He's been on the show before.

00:02:09.420 He actually is a retired command sergeant major.

00:02:13.200 That is the rank that Tim Walz says he is.

00:02:15.480 It's not true.

00:02:16.900 And Tom Behrens is the man who did go to Iraq when that unit was deployed.

00:02:22.220 Also with us today is Paul Herr.

00:02:24.120 He, too, is a retired command sergeant major.

00:02:26.500 And he knew Tim Walz and was there when they were told that they were about to get a notice telling them to deploy to Iraq

00:02:35.240 and can speak to when Tim Walz knew that news was coming and what Tim Walz said to him about his plans in that regard.

00:02:44.140 Today, you'll also meet Rodney Tau.

00:02:46.420 Rodney is a retired first sergeant, and he, too, was in the National Guard unit.

00:02:51.240 He and Tim Walz were peers.

00:02:53.360 They served within the same battalion.

00:02:54.960 He knew Tim Walz well.

00:02:57.480 And you will also meet today Tom Schilling, who's a retired sergeant first class.

00:03:02.180 He did deploy to Iraq the same deployment that Tim Walz abandoned.

00:03:07.200 And he will share with us for the first time his thoughts on this controversy.

00:03:12.740 We are grateful to all of them for their honesty, for their candor, and for their courage, not only in servicing us all on the battlefield,

00:03:19.020 but in coming forward, which has created a national firestorm around Tim Walz.

00:03:23.400 Yes, but he's put himself out there as a public figure, but also around them and for just telling the truth.

00:03:30.560 In a firestorm, they didn't want to create.

00:03:33.220 They tried to handle it privately without ever publicly embarrassing him, but he refused to do the right thing.

00:03:38.920 That's what they claim.

00:03:39.580 And they're here today to tell you their story directly.

00:03:45.060 Gentlemen, thank you all so much for being here.

00:03:46.900 I really appreciate it.

00:03:47.660 And thank you for your service.

00:03:48.900 You're welcome.

00:03:50.180 Let me just get your ranks and your experience on the record so that our audience understands who we're talking to.

00:03:57.020 Tom Behrens, we'll start with you because you've been on the show before.

00:03:59.320 You are a retired Command Sergeant Major and served with a 125 Field Artillery First Brigade Combat Team.

00:04:09.740 That's the unit that Tim Walz was in.

00:04:12.740 That is correct.

00:04:13.600 Okay.

00:04:14.460 And then to your side, we have Paul Hur.

00:04:18.940 Correct.

00:04:19.400 And you're also a retired Command Sergeant Major from a different division, though.

00:04:25.620 Same division.

00:04:26.740 Different brigade.

00:04:27.720 How do you say it?

00:04:28.340 Yeah, I was a brigade Sergeant Major, so the battalions, like one of the 125, fell under me.

00:04:34.700 Okay.

00:04:35.140 Not at the time, but later on.

00:04:36.860 But at the time that Tim Walz was doing his thing, I was a battalion Command Sergeant Major, like Tom, at a different unit.

00:04:52.340 And so would you have been above him or lateral to him, just in a different unit?

00:04:56.960 Walz? 0.81

00:04:57.320 Yeah.

00:04:57.480 At the time, I would have been lateral.

00:05:01.220 Okay.

00:05:01.800 We would have been peers.

00:05:03.680 Okay.

00:05:04.360 Ronnie Tao.

00:05:05.300 And it's Company G, 134 Brigade Support Battalion.

00:05:08.880 So this is actually his unit as well, is it not?

00:05:12.760 This unit was permanently attached to one of the 125 as their support element.

00:05:19.500 So you knew Tim Walz.

00:05:20.500 So you knew Tim Walz.

00:05:20.660 I knew him very well.

00:05:21.540 Okay.

00:05:21.940 Okay.

00:05:21.980 Very good.

00:05:22.840 And last but not least, we've got Tom Schilling, retired Sergeant First Class, and you were in the unit that deployed to Iraq.

00:05:33.840 Is that correct, Tom?

00:05:34.400 That's correct.

00:05:34.760 That Tim Walz did not deploy with.

00:05:38.380 That's another correct.

00:05:39.280 Yeah.

00:05:39.640 Okay.

00:05:39.920 All right.

00:05:40.620 So there's so much going on with this issue, and we're being told by Tim Walz, by Kamala Harris, and by their supporters that this is a nothing burger.

00:05:48.780 There's no there there, and I'm just going to tee up some of the reaction for you with this congressman, Adam Smith, who came on my program last week.

00:05:57.500 He's a Democrat from California, and he defended Tim Walz very strongly and basically told us there's no there there, that we're making much ado about nothing, and I'll give you my first soundbite, 11, here with him.

00:06:11.120 Watch this.

00:06:11.740 I am talking about the accusations that are being made against him.

00:06:15.500 They are absolute lies.

00:06:16.960 What the actual facts are, he decided to run for Congress in February.

00:06:22.400 He got out of the military in May, and his unit was called up in July, and I believe didn't deploy until like six months after that.

00:06:31.640 He left the Guard unit specifically to run for Congress before the deployment orders came in.

00:06:39.660 The lies are being told about Tim Walz.

00:06:41.920 He did not get out of the National Guard because he didn't want to deploy.

00:06:48.060 To claim that is an absolute lie, 100%.

00:06:51.440 So, yes, there may be a few veterans.

00:06:54.260 I don't know what their motivations are.

00:06:55.660 I don't know who they are who are saying this.

00:06:57.920 But, again, let's just take a step back for one second.

00:07:00.860 The accusation that Tim Walz didn't want to deploy with his unit, and that's why he got out, that is simply not what the facts show.

00:07:10.820 And if you are a veteran and you are saying publicly that Tim Walz decided to get out because he didn't want to go to Iraq, then you are saying something that you cannot possibly know to be true.

00:07:22.260 Well, what's your reaction to that?

00:07:23.480 I'll start with you on it, Tom.

00:07:24.580 Wow.

00:07:26.160 That kind of gets a guy fired up.

00:07:28.040 Tim Walz said himself in March of 2005, through his campaign, a statement that was put out, that he was going to run for Congress, but the unit had been notified that they're going to be going to Iraq in the near future, sometime in the future.

00:07:47.100 He said, that's all I'm going to say about it.

00:07:48.560 But I have a great support team and a great wife, and they're going to support me whether I campaign in Minnesota or Iraq.

00:07:56.520 I mean, it was his words.

00:07:57.620 It's out now that he knew in March that this was going on, and then in May he retired.

00:08:03.460 So it's not like it was something that was months down the road.

00:08:05.860 Yeah, but he filed a run for Congress in February.

00:08:08.100 Correct, on the 10th of February.

00:08:09.600 That's why Adam Smith and others say, how can you say he abandoned his unit?

00:08:13.240 Had he filed a run for Congress and leave the unit before he got official notice on paper that they were going to be deployed?

00:08:19.900 The warning order is an official notice to the units out there.

00:08:24.140 I mean, it's a secret order.

00:08:26.020 You know, it's classified, and it's read to the soldiers, and that's probably destroyed.

00:08:30.260 I tried to get a copy of it, and it probably exists somewhere out there, but it's not something that's public that you can find right now.

00:08:38.280 So your point is he knew before February of 2005 when he said he was retiring?

00:08:42.300 Absolutely. I mean, from what I'm hearing, the leadership of the state pretty much knew something was going to be going on in the summer of 2004.

00:08:50.600 And in the fall of 2004, you know, brigade and division and battalion leadership, you know, there's no evidence for sure that we know that they knew.

00:08:58.020 But if that's how it usually works is that, you know, the senior leadership knows ahead of time in a meeting that's classified.

00:09:05.080 They don't find out at the same time the rest of you guys find out.

00:09:07.240 Yeah, they always know that. I mean, it doesn't just all get dropped.

00:09:10.140 The bomb gets dropped on the whole dang unit out there in the leadership and the soldiers all at once. 1.00

00:09:14.480 And he was in leadership. He had the same position to you.

00:09:19.060 So do you agree with that, that he would have told, because Doug Juleen, he's out there saying, and he also served.

00:09:23.760 I'll get his title. He also says that they were actually told in the fall of 2004, he said, that's when we received my commander, myself of the 1st Brigade, 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team,

00:09:38.220 what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NAS, he described it, informing us that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the upcoming year.

00:09:46.920 Or start preparing your team.

00:09:49.380 Correct. Doug was the Brigade Command Sergeant Major at the time.

00:09:53.580 Doug Juleen, who I just mentioned.

00:09:54.660 Correct. He retired out as the Division Command Sergeant Major.

00:10:02.840 The reason, what was that Democrat's name again?

00:10:06.760 He was saying that there's no way you could, Adam Smith.

00:10:09.620 Adam Smith, okay, whatever camera's looking at me, this is how I know Adam Smith,

00:10:14.780 that he is, again, a liar, because he told me and other sergeant majors in the meetings that you can count on me.

00:10:24.620 I will deploy with my unit.

00:10:26.740 His words to my ears and others.

00:10:30.320 So that's how I know.

00:10:31.900 I'm not making it up.

00:10:33.400 I have thousands of soldiers, thousands of soldiers that I took into combat and brought back all well.

00:10:41.320 They know me.

00:10:42.380 Hey, if you knew my blood was boiling right now because Walls has done nothing but lie to Feather's own bed his entire career.

00:10:52.640 That's how I know.

00:10:53.900 I was there.

00:10:54.820 I just didn't make this up.

00:10:56.200 Tom and I just didn't make this stuff up.

00:10:58.500 I was in the meetings.

00:10:59.720 I was part of it.

00:11:02.620 Soldiers died.

00:11:04.160 Soldiers went on this meeting.

00:11:05.400 Do you think their parents didn't want their soldiers to take a pass, take a knee, and maybe go on the next one or go on something that maybe isn't so dangerous?

00:11:15.060 You're darn skimpy. 0.97

00:11:16.560 He came out and said he was going to go.

00:11:18.620 All the time working behind Doug Juleen's back, going behind the chain of command's back to secure his retirement.

00:11:27.700 I mean, I still don't know who signed the 4187 to allow him to get out. 0.96

00:11:32.380 He would have got caught up in stop loss for sure, and he wouldn't have gone anywhere.

00:11:36.840 He already claimed that he wasn't going to go out.

00:11:40.000 He was going to deploy forward with his unit.

00:11:42.040 So you're saying whenever he found out that he was deploying, and you're saying he found out before he's saying he found out, but whenever he found out, prior to his official leaving of the National Guard, he knew Iraq was coming, and he was telling you, I'll deploy, I'll deploy. 0.53

00:11:59.900 Notwithstanding the fact that he had said already, I'm going to run for Congress, he's saying, I'll go with my unit.

00:12:05.360 Oh, absolutely.

00:12:06.420 And didn't.

00:12:07.420 And he didn't.

00:12:08.300 No, he didn't.

00:12:09.560 Explain why that's a big deal.

00:12:10.820 Because, you know, his defenders say, hey, he was allowed to retire, so.

00:12:15.220 And I will say, this is another thing, and I put it out there.

00:12:20.160 I spent 34 years in the Army, almost 13 of those as a sergeant major.

00:12:28.760 The preponderance of my career, and us as non-commissioned officers, people, I don't think people understand, or they don't have a good,

00:12:40.820 understanding of our role in the military, when push comes to shove, we have officers that are appointed over us.

00:12:49.560 And our job is to make sure that those soldiers are motivated and educated and trained to the best of their ability, with all the assets at hand, to carry out the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over them.

00:13:08.440 Back in World War I, when we were doing trench warfare, the officer would blow the whistle to leave the trenches and charge the enemy across the line.

00:13:17.860 The non-commissioned officers' job is to make sure that they're motivated to the hilt to come out of those trenches.

00:13:25.120 And I'm going to be the point of the spear.

00:13:26.860 I was in an MRAP.

00:13:28.040 I was out there on the road.

00:13:29.640 I was out there in harm's way just as much as anybody else.

00:13:33.200 And my job is to make sure that those soldiers have the utmost confidence in their leadership.

00:13:47.020 If the powers that be, if the officer blows the whistle to leave the trenches, and I'm the guy who's motivating everybody to leave, and I go, nah, not today.

00:13:57.560 I'm not going.

00:13:58.000 You guys go right ahead.

00:14:00.680 That's a morale crusher.

00:14:04.200 It chews away at the fabric of the military and its ability to do its mission.

00:14:09.520 And it's just, it may not legally be wrong.

00:14:14.360 It is morally indefensible.

00:14:17.300 I could have retired.

00:14:18.500 Tom could have retired.

00:14:19.840 Most, all the guys that were in those meetings, all the soldiers that were in those meetings, all our CSMs, were all long in the tooth.

00:14:27.140 We could have retired.

00:14:28.460 We didn't.

00:14:29.620 We had other soldiers that put their lives on total lockdown because of this, because they went to defend their country.

00:14:38.160 They had soldiers.

00:14:39.280 I'm not going to let my soldiers go forward without me.

00:14:42.160 I trained them.

00:14:43.400 I put myself right there with them.

00:14:46.200 I'm going to suffer every hardship that they do.

00:14:49.060 And that's the position he was in.

00:14:50.520 Yeah, that's the exact position he was in.

00:14:53.280 And he walked away from it.

00:14:54.380 And he wasn't going to, he didn't care.

00:14:56.980 It was all about him.

00:14:58.940 You know, his comments offhand that I had heard at some of those meetings were, you know, and I didn't put two and two together, but he was talking to another sergeant major, who will not be named, and you know who you are, that, you know, thanks.

00:15:12.040 You know, I have a good chance to win this election this November.

00:15:14.920 So I didn't put any of that together until he didn't show up and Tom was tasked with, you know, being the CSM for one of the 125s.

00:15:25.600 Because you took over the position he should have had on the deployment.

00:15:28.680 When he quit in May, it was like the rumor went across the state that he had quit.

00:15:34.360 And it was like, who the hell does that?

00:15:36.040 I mean, it was just unbelievable that a CSM abandoned his troops, you know, 500 soldiers, basically.

00:15:43.000 But beyond that, there's a thousand parents out there that expect that person to lead those people into combat and to train them and to do everything they can to equip them properly and, you know, try to get them all home alive if possible.

00:15:57.000 And besides those thousand parents, there's all the sisters and brothers out there and everybody in the small hometowns in the National Guard.

00:16:04.220 I mean, there's thousands of towns across Minnesota that have guard people in them.

00:16:09.900 And it's not just where the unit's at.

00:16:11.320 I mean, all those little small towns come together.

00:16:13.380 Well, all this great community is behind all those soldiers there.

00:16:17.880 And for that sergeant major or a first sergeant or an E7 or anybody in an NCO position to quit like that, it's like losing the patriarch of the family, you know, the quarterback of a football team.

00:16:32.480 I mean, literally what this guy did is he was like Tom Brady training until the Super Bowl, you know, getting to that point.

00:16:39.160 And then the Super Bowl comes up and he says, you know, you second stringer, get out there and play because I might get hurt.

00:16:44.340 And I don't, you know, I want to keep myself well for when I retire now and carry on.

00:16:49.360 And the Super Bowl is out there and you're not playing in it.

00:16:52.660 Except in Iraq, you're actually risking your life.

00:16:56.020 I mean, that's the big thing that you train for.

00:16:59.020 You train for 24 years to get to that position.

00:17:01.300 When you go to basic training, you're training to go to war, you're training to go to combat, you're training to kill people, basically, or, you know, hopefully not get killed yourself.

00:17:11.240 That's kind of why you train.

00:17:12.400 And that goes on for years and years.

00:17:14.820 And as you go up the rank, once you get to 24 years of that, I mean, the next step is, is, okay, if I can go to combat, that's what I've trained for 24 years for.

00:17:24.980 I've signed the papers.

00:17:26.560 I've done that with the United States government.

00:17:29.340 I'm, I'm supporting all of that.

00:17:31.580 And I'm going to, I'm going to go and protect my country and protect my soul.

00:17:35.640 I mean, are we, you know, I'm trying to keep in mind, 2005, getting a notice that you're going to deploy to Iraq.

00:17:42.620 That's scary.

00:17:43.720 That was a rough time.

00:17:45.080 That is not like you're deploying to Italy like he did in 2003 in support of what's happening in Afghanistan.

00:17:50.940 Things were about as bad as they could get.

00:17:53.120 I wish some of those members brought their families over there for a while while they were there.

00:17:57.320 To Italy?

00:17:58.100 Sure.

00:17:58.420 Because it was a vacay.

00:17:59.820 Tour of the country.

00:18:00.580 Yeah.

00:18:00.980 I mean, it was just, I mean, it's no, it's no different than if you got PCS today to Italy.

00:18:06.840 There was no difference there.

00:18:08.200 I mean, they were, it wasn't like they were on lockdown, covered in battle, rattle and, you know.

00:18:14.420 Okay.

00:18:14.660 But looking at his, at the Iraq thing, he's almost done.

00:18:19.440 He could have retired a couple of years earlier.

00:18:21.640 He re-upped, but very dangerous.

00:18:25.420 He could serve the country if he runs for Congress.

00:18:27.940 That's what he says.

00:18:28.640 I'm going to fight for veterans from inside Congress.

00:18:31.560 And it may not be as dangerous, but there's more value there.

00:18:35.180 I'd like to know what, do we know what he fought for veterans?

00:18:41.360 Well, did he get retired?

00:18:43.320 20, I don't know, what year did the, did the, the care, the care in the community, President Trump signed it?

00:18:51.100 Was that in seven, 18?

00:18:52.880 Well, that wouldn't have been until, yeah, 17.

00:18:54.200 Yeah, it was 18, and Walz voted against, he was one of the handful of people that voted against him.

00:18:58.660 Ronnie, what were you going to say?

00:19:01.120 I was just going to say that, you know, I don't know how he can live with himself after he did that to his soldiers.

00:19:08.480 You know, that, that military unit, that is the same thing as a family.

00:19:13.980 That's your military family.

00:19:15.620 And you take care of family, and, you know, those guys got your back, and you're supposed to have their back.

00:19:20.300 And he just quit and turned his back on.

00:19:23.920 I just, I don't know how he can do it.

00:19:25.980 Were you in the unit when he left?

00:19:28.060 Yes.

00:19:28.740 And do you remember what that felt like when you heard the news?

00:19:31.260 I, I couldn't believe it.

00:19:32.620 I was like, how, how did he just quit?

00:19:37.380 I, I knew he had time left on his, uh, enlistment.

00:19:41.980 And I'm like, how did, I don't understand how he could do it morally, or, you know, he's got absolutely no integrity.

00:19:50.920 I, I just don't get it.

00:19:52.320 Was there talk amongst the guys at the time?

00:19:55.440 Very little.

00:19:56.420 You know, we weren't supposed to talk about it.

00:19:59.160 So, not a whole lot was discussed about it.

00:20:02.100 But, we ended up with Tom, so, you know, maybe it was the best.

00:20:07.740 I've heard, I've heard a few guys from the unit say that, because Tom Barron stepped in.

00:20:11.900 That's very humbling.

00:20:12.760 Now, going back to what he, you know, what he said about, you know, he's going to get in Congress and do great things for the country.

00:20:18.080 Yeah.

00:20:18.240 He wasn't elected yet.

00:20:19.520 So, he's so into himself that, well, I'm going to run for Congress, and then when I get in there, I'm going to do other things.

00:20:24.560 It's like, what would he have done if he had lost, and then had abandoned his soldiers then, too?

00:20:29.020 I mean, that could have happened very easily.

00:20:30.860 It wasn't like he was a sitting congressman in the House of Representatives, and he was just going to quit and spend more time in Washington.

00:20:36.720 I mean, he literally had to win the election when he had, you know, in 06, I believe, which was a whole other year out of campaigning.

00:20:44.040 So, for him to say that, well, I just quit because I wanted to serve my country in a different way, well, you have no speculation whether he's even going to win or not.

00:20:51.780 So, you know, for him to say that, that's kind of a, you know, looking back on it, you can all lay it out and say, this is why I got out, because I was going to win, because I'm the greatest politician in the world.

00:21:03.100 And I can be a chameleon to the 1st District and BS them all and act like I'm going to do this to the farmers and this to the hunters and this to the people in Rochester.

00:21:13.160 And wherever I go, I wear a different T-shirt that says I'm all for the farmers and whatever, and, you know, does his little dance and everything.

00:21:21.140 And pretty soon, everybody, you know, they get buffaloed for a while.

00:21:24.700 But 1st District woke up to him, I think, in 2016, too.

00:21:28.480 This is where he served as a congressman that wound up voting against him when he ran for governor.

00:21:33.420 Tom, you did deploy.

00:21:35.000 I did.

00:21:35.980 And to Iraq.

00:21:37.520 Right.

00:21:37.800 And you fought for the country.

00:21:38.720 And so what's your reaction?

00:21:40.340 Like when you hear his excuses about, I had a different way of serving, I'd done my time.

00:21:46.340 I got to go on the 9-11 memorial deal.

00:21:49.860 I kind of brought back why some of the reserve people and myself got back in.

00:21:54.420 The 9-11 memorial here in New York.

00:21:56.120 It's kind of, you see all the people that are there, you almost feel their soul.

00:21:59.700 It's kind of breathtaking.

00:22:01.040 But anyway, I got back in.

00:22:02.880 I didn't ask, well, I'll get back in.

00:22:05.600 It was more or less like, what do you want me to do and how do you want me to do it?

00:22:08.960 That was the deal.

00:22:09.660 I signed a contract and that's what I wanted to do.

00:22:12.260 A lot of people did that.

00:22:13.540 Reserve people that they got back in, they were living lives of their own already. 0.99

00:22:18.840 And they got called to do that.

00:22:20.280 And they come back in the same reason.

00:22:21.920 It's like, okay, here I am.

00:22:23.100 What do you want me to do?

00:22:23.820 It's that type of attitude.

00:22:24.640 So it's a Patriot thing.

00:22:28.360 And like I agree, these two command sergeant majors, they nailed everything I could possibly say on that.

00:22:36.060 But it's just wrong.

00:22:38.000 For instance, I'm more of a, what happens in the community, like the regular army, they stay on their bases and what happens can stay on the bases.

00:22:50.840 But Walsh did, we live in the communities and we hear all this stuff.

00:22:56.380 We were civilians.

00:22:57.740 We just work on weekends or whatever we train.

00:23:00.820 So when something like that happens, we bring dishonor on all of us.

00:23:04.880 So that's kind of why I got involved this from.

00:23:10.040 I mean, for what he said, but going into combat, that's sacred.

00:23:13.840 There's people lose their lives, limbs.

00:23:16.540 Sometimes they're having kids at home, but they went over there and they missed the birth of a child.

00:23:22.780 Sometimes they lose their marriage, maybe a job, but they make that commitment.

00:23:27.580 And when you see Walsh, just some of the junior leaders, what they do for their men.

00:23:34.040 I mean, they know they're the leader and that's the guys they're taking care of.

00:23:37.960 They only have like five men.

00:23:39.080 Sometimes a battalion leader, they only got 80.

00:23:41.380 But the commitment to bring those boys back is amazing.

00:23:44.740 How many did he have, Tom?

00:23:45.660 How many were in the unit that he left?

00:23:47.480 There's 500.

00:23:48.860 It's kind of a rough figure for that.

00:23:50.240 I think we have 650 when we were training at Shelby.

00:23:54.780 Sorry, Tom Schilling, I interrupt you.

00:23:56.240 Keep going.

00:23:57.280 Now you got me.

00:23:58.140 Well, you were saying that you were speaking of the numbers that these guys are responsible for.

00:24:02.040 Well, the part of him just getting up is unfathomable because we all made the same commitment after 9-11.

00:24:10.660 And then I hear that stolen valor.

00:24:14.560 And I see that as he used that.

00:24:17.120 We're supposed to be there to defend the citizens.

00:24:19.560 That's what we do.

00:24:20.360 It's like foreign and domestic.

00:24:22.360 That's our vow.

00:24:23.020 And he takes stolen valor to run against another civilian for a United States representative.

00:24:29.120 That was really terrible on my part of helping you do that.

00:24:31.480 The sins are multiple, the alleged sins.

00:24:37.440 Not only did he not go to Iraq, and I guess I should just ask you, raise your hand if you think Tim Walsh is guilty of cutting and running as opposed to serving in Iraq.

00:24:46.200 Absolutely.

00:24:46.920 No doubt.

00:24:47.720 No doubt.

00:24:48.340 And to those like Adam Smith who suggest maybe there's a political motive here, we've seen some guys come out and say, oh, these are conservative guys.

00:24:58.080 They're going to vote Republican.

00:24:58.920 They're just trying to bring him down because he's a Democrat.

00:25:00.540 He's running as a Democrat for governor.

00:25:02.440 Anybody want to take that on?

00:25:03.760 Oh, yeah.

00:25:04.760 Go ahead.

00:25:05.040 I would say that, you know, looking back on what has been dug up on him ever since 2005, August, when he was holding an Enduring Freedom Veterans for Care sign.

00:25:19.700 Yes, he was.

00:25:20.740 And, you know, supposedly he was in the carry campaign in the state.

00:25:25.880 I don't know when he started doing it, if he started doing it when he was in Italy or when he was doing it.

00:25:31.300 But my gut feeling is he did it for political reasons, but it wasn't for political reasons to help this country.

00:25:38.220 He did it because this was Bush's war.

00:25:41.120 And I feel that he just literally got to the whatever point that, you know, there was some weird stuff with the Iraq war back then.

00:25:48.680 I think he just he just felt that he just couldn't.

00:25:52.200 I mean, a lot of guys had questions about the Iraq war and why we're fighting it.

00:25:55.480 You still went and did your thing.

00:25:57.060 I mean, I had 150 IRR guys that asked the same thing.

00:26:00.200 They got pulled off the street of New York City and Washington, all across the nation.

00:26:04.580 They came to us.

00:26:05.720 They had a letter that got sent to them.

00:26:07.300 They answered the call and they came to Camp Shelby and trained with us.

00:26:10.780 And and they literally, you know, they're they were out there and and they were like, why are we here?

00:26:15.700 You know, this this war, you know, we haven't found weapons of mass destruction.

00:26:19.300 First thing I said, well, Saddam Hussein was a weapon of mass destruction. 0.61

00:26:23.000 And but they fought anyway.

00:26:24.020 They fought anyway.

00:26:24.820 And I put together a briefing for him.

00:26:27.680 And I said, I compared it to World War Two.

00:26:30.040 I said, we got attacked by Japan.

00:26:32.700 Did we get attacked by Germany?

00:26:34.860 They said no.

00:26:35.740 And I said, why the hell do we go to Germany?

00:26:37.980 I said, we got attacked by Afghanistan.

00:26:40.060 You know, the Taliban, you know, the terrorists that came right here and did what they did. 0.81

00:26:44.420 And I said, yeah, we didn't get attacked by Iraq. 0.95

00:26:47.600 But we there was a dictator there that was oppressing his people, killing his own people.

00:26:52.020 And we we felt that there was something there.

00:26:55.460 We need to go in there.

00:26:56.460 And how does it how do the military armed services work if the soldiers get to decide which wars are the good ones?

00:27:02.960 Exactly.

00:27:03.580 That you that you can't do that.

00:27:05.340 You can't pick and choose where you're going to go.

00:27:07.440 Oh, I like this war.

00:27:08.780 That's a question that he'll never answer because he never answers any questions.

00:27:12.800 You might have a spokesperson.

00:27:13.700 I answer it for him now.

00:27:15.560 But if the if the order would have said Operation Enduring Freedom to Afghanistan, would you have stayed in then because you felt that was a just war?

00:27:24.260 You know, and if that's the case, you know, then that's more dirt on him, too, because it's like you don't get to pick which war to go with.

00:27:30.180 We'll go back to that in a second.

00:27:31.220 But how about the politics of it?

00:27:32.860 Is this a political hit by you?

00:27:34.340 Do we started this long before he became governor?

00:27:38.760 I mean, when he started running for Congress, he was then and wasn't even us.

00:27:47.580 Tom Hagen.

00:27:48.280 Tom Hagen put out the first news article saying, stop calling yourself a retired command sergeant major.

00:27:56.780 This because he's been this is in addition to the other problems because he's been overstating his military rank.

00:28:01.800 Right.

00:28:02.100 You're not.

00:28:02.700 You're a retired master sergeant.

00:28:04.200 You literally played one on TV.

00:28:07.000 You basically and now we look at his NGB 22.

00:28:13.420 What's that?

00:28:14.280 Well, that's his discharge document from the National Guard.

00:28:17.360 His data rank is actually May 1st of 05.

00:28:22.220 He retired on the 16th.

00:28:24.200 Right.

00:28:24.980 So he was literally a sergeant major on paper, conditionally promoted for 14 days.

00:28:31.920 Wow.

00:28:32.580 And in the guard world, that may have been zero days because he may not have that may not have coincided with a drill time.

00:28:41.200 He has said that over and over and over.

00:28:46.740 Called himself a retired command sergeant major.

00:28:48.600 And we have pushed back against that.

00:28:51.080 And we tried doing it, you know, relatively quietly.

00:28:55.040 And, you know, we were ignored.

00:28:59.080 This was leading up to the gubernatorial race.

00:29:02.740 If he would have never mentioned the sergeant major thing, we may not really be sitting here.

00:29:09.000 No, I got it.

00:29:09.800 Well, what about his defenders say he was one for a short time?

00:29:14.920 Well, why can't he say I was one?

00:29:17.260 Well, you could say I was a command sergeant major who is now retired, but he can't say I'm a retired command sergeant major.

00:29:24.240 Who cares?

00:29:25.440 Well, again, I guess civilians probably don't care, but you should care if you're in the military.

00:29:30.940 It would be I say I forget his name, the sergeant major that said this.

00:29:35.740 I wish I came up with this.

00:29:36.900 But when we are in basic training, you're all the same.

00:29:41.460 You're all a bunch pack of privates.

00:29:42.980 And then somebody is going to be in charge and you're going to get an armband that says corporal.

00:29:47.080 You're going to get an armband that says sergeant.

00:29:49.160 And if you get medically hurt and let's say you put out of the army, are you going to say, yeah, I was a sergeant when I was in the army?

00:29:57.140 No, you played one.

00:29:58.960 You were conditionally promoted for two seconds to play one of basic training just to help herd cats.

00:30:04.940 OK, so now now you're out on the street and you're claiming that you're you're a retired something that you weren't.

00:30:11.700 You guys are retired command sergeant majors.

00:30:13.580 How much extra training goes in?

00:30:15.480 That's an E9 versus an E8.

00:30:17.120 How much extra did you really have to do to get from the E8 to E9?

00:30:20.900 Two years just to to keep it.

00:30:24.480 Do you got it?

00:30:25.000 You're going to.

00:30:26.480 Here's the difference on active duty.

00:30:28.800 If you get selected to be a command, a sergeant major, an E9, we'll just say, then you're going to. 0.95

00:30:35.120 That's a PCS move, a permanent change of station to Fort Bliss.

00:30:39.360 You're going to go to the sergeant majors academy.

00:30:41.260 You're going to be there for a couple of years.

00:30:42.700 Then you're going to graduate, just like graduating from a college.

00:30:47.320 OK, so you're and then you are officially a sergeant major at that point.

00:30:52.920 If you're on the reserves or you're a SOCOM force or special operations command like Delta Force, Green Beret, stuff like that.

00:31:00.140 So those got and National Garden Reserves.

00:31:03.620 We do a two year distance learning course.

00:31:08.220 So we have to do it.

00:31:09.940 It's almost more of a problem because it's we have to do it at night on our own after we work.

00:31:16.300 They're all our stuff.

00:31:17.760 So we're doing it on a computer and doing our classes that way.

00:31:23.540 And then it culminates with like a two and a half week stint down at Fort Bliss where you do your final papers and stuff like that.

00:31:32.140 And then you then you're done.

00:31:35.540 Would it have been nice to be able to skip all of that after 14 days and still have the title?

00:31:39.360 One day out of every weekend for two years that you tell your family, shut up, get away from the office.

00:31:45.480 I got to work this.

00:31:46.540 I got to rehearse my speeches.

00:31:48.180 I've got to I've got to go through all this.

00:31:49.980 So when you see somebody saying they are one when you know they're not one, they didn't do all the sacrifice from the family and the personal time.

00:31:58.900 Well, how does it make you feel?

00:32:00.100 Well, it burns the command sergeant major corps, the nine corps across all the military.

00:32:04.860 I think it'd be like I reckoned it to the same as a person that's like, you know, in a training to be a doctor and they frock him.

00:32:13.200 He can wear doctor whatever badge in the hospital and go through the halls and act like he's a doctor.

00:32:19.800 He's still in training.

00:32:20.840 And then then all of a sudden he decides he drops out of the school because that's too much work.

00:32:26.280 I don't want to do it anymore.

00:32:27.640 But then he still walks through the halls and says he's a doctor.

00:32:29.980 I mean, if a civilian saw that, they'd take that he'd get thrown in jail.

00:32:33.740 And, you know, this guy, he's a military impersonator with that.

00:32:37.240 It's like I'm using, you know, like you said, he's a retired command sergeant major.

00:32:40.960 He's said it so many times that it just makes a person sick here.

00:32:45.600 Yeah, the state of Minnesota said that he can say he's, you know, he served as a command sergeant major, which he's never said I served as a command sergeant major.

00:32:54.680 He blads that he was a retired one.

00:32:57.080 And that's where, you know, this originally came out with me like in 2015 and 16 because we had a veterans memorial that was getting dedicated.

00:33:04.960 And he came down as the congressman, spoke to the small town.

00:33:08.120 And it was just, I am retired.

00:33:09.500 You know, you've seen all the videos.

00:33:11.120 He said it six times, six, seven times.

00:33:13.640 It was in the paper.

00:33:14.820 And a neighbor that sang national anthem, he says, God, I got to meet another command sergeant major.

00:33:19.680 He said, that's two of them I've met.

00:33:21.140 And I was like, he's not a retired command sergeant major.

00:33:23.980 I said, he didn't do the school.

00:33:25.780 I went through the same things, Paul said.

00:33:27.440 I said, the guy looked at me, he goes, we don't know that.

00:33:31.680 This needs to get out.

00:33:32.680 And I said, well, I figured somebody above me, whether, you know, whether at state level or, you know, somebody would have corrected him and told him, you know, cease and desist from what you're doing.

00:33:42.400 You're lying.

00:33:43.320 You're doing it for political gain.

00:33:44.780 It's making you look better than you are.

00:33:47.020 You're wearing a 12-point rack on your head.

00:33:49.120 You got Bambi's body, basically, is what you're doing. 0.99

00:33:53.120 You're not that.

00:33:54.680 Here's back to your friend, Adam Smith.

00:33:57.300 And by the way, I mean, this guy's the ranking member, meaning the most senior member there is on the Democrat side because they're not the party in power in the House right now.

00:34:04.880 So he's the ranking member on the Armed Services Committee speaking to this issue of Walsh calling himself a retired command sergeant major.

00:34:13.980 Here, watch it.

00:34:14.420 He was promoted to be a command sergeant major.

00:34:19.240 So at one point, he served in that rank.

00:34:21.480 Now, the way it works, which is not something that people who aren't familiar with the military would be aware of, you have to do a little bit more to be able to retire at that rank.

00:34:31.360 OK, so it is not wrong to say that Tim Walsh was a command sergeant major.

00:34:36.220 He was.

00:34:36.720 It is wrong to say that he retired at that rank.

00:34:41.080 And that came out a couple of times and they corrected it.

00:34:44.680 OK, and you can see where, OK, he's both retired and he was a command sergeant major, but he is not a retired command sergeant major.

00:34:54.440 That is true. And I think that is a very innocent mistake.

00:34:59.120 You just have to do it.

00:35:00.980 You're laughing.

00:35:01.920 A little bit.

00:35:02.480 Why are you laughing?

00:35:04.300 Yeah.

00:35:05.400 Paul's not laughing.

00:35:07.880 He's going to have to touch my hand.

00:35:09.820 Yeah, you're OK.

00:35:11.280 Calm down.

00:35:12.360 No, but, you know, that's the thing right there.

00:35:14.100 OK, that's just a innocent little mistake in there that he did whatever.

00:35:16.820 I wrote this letter to Tim Walsh back in 16.

00:35:20.500 I said, you know, thank you for your service.

00:35:23.320 Thanks for what you've done for veterans.

00:35:25.300 You know, thank you for your 24 years.

00:35:27.320 But I said, you know, you were down here and you were saying you're a retired command sergeant major.

00:35:30.840 You're not.

00:35:31.720 But I had the state state command sergeant major personnel officer tell me that he can only say he's a retired master sergeant.

00:35:38.760 I mean, it was it's all out there everywhere.

00:35:40.840 He was officially demoted, just so people know.

00:35:42.820 It's in paperwork.

00:35:44.020 You can look it up.

00:35:44.720 He was demoted like his.

00:35:46.100 Right.

00:35:46.720 So he tried to retire as a command sergeant major and they caught him and said, no, that's not what you were.

00:35:51.100 Keep going.

00:35:51.420 And the man I sent this letter to him, you know, it was like soldier to soldier.

00:35:55.300 I was like, you know, give him a chance to just come clean.

00:35:58.200 Fix it.

00:35:58.680 Just yeah.

00:35:59.500 What what even Van Jones, I think, is the guy's name on CNN, said, you know, just come out and have a news conference and come clean so we can get over this.

00:36:07.220 Whatever the hell, he'll never do it.

00:36:08.700 He never did it back then.

00:36:09.780 I he could have easily done it.

00:36:11.680 He could have said, yeah, yes, I screwed up.

00:36:13.660 I didn't know I was that.

00:36:14.540 That was that I think it would have went on water under the bridge.

00:36:17.360 That's what Colonel Cole had to say.

00:36:18.860 Well, I I sent the letter to the Armed Services Committee then after I never heard nothing back from Jim Walz and the Ag Committee and every everyone he was on.

00:36:27.420 It was like, you know, this guy is lying about his rank.

00:36:29.980 Nobody responded.

00:36:30.780 He still hasn't responded, which is why we're here together.

00:36:33.800 Exactly.

00:36:34.160 I mean, it's like, well, he never will.

00:36:36.380 He'll have a spokesperson say he misspoke.

00:36:38.500 Well, so so here's here's what he has said.

00:36:41.660 All right.

00:36:41.800 We're going to play some of his sound here where he didn't really address it.

00:36:47.740 But after this all hit, he got out there and did a couple of announcements at various rallies.

00:36:54.000 And we'll take a look at one of them.

00:36:55.160 This is Sot Six in his rally right after the vice presidential announcement.

00:36:59.680 My dad served in the Army during the Korean War.

00:37:02.280 With his encouragement, at 17, I joined the Army National Guard.

00:37:12.820 For 24 years, I proudly wore the uniform of this nation.

00:37:24.060 The National Guard gave me purpose.

00:37:26.220 It gave me the strength of a shared commitment to something greater than ourselves.

00:37:32.260 And just as it did for my dad and millions of others, the G.I. Bill gave me a shot at a college education.

00:37:39.940 That was before all the controversy.

00:37:41.800 He knew you guys were out there, but that's how he tried to spin it in his first appearance.

00:37:45.520 Like, hey, here I am, National Guardsman, in response to which you felt what?

00:37:52.500 Just he's.

00:37:54.600 Grab his leg.

00:37:56.220 What does grabbing the leg do?

00:37:58.240 What does it call him down?

00:38:04.840 He just said that it was the biggest commitment and his exact words.

00:38:13.220 It was bigger than himself, right?

00:38:16.040 Right.

00:38:16.400 Bigger than himself.

00:38:17.580 And I'm like, no, it wasn't.

00:38:19.440 He, he is, he is the pinnacle of everything, right?

00:38:24.280 Everything he does and says.

00:38:27.280 A couple of years ago, I did an interview, and in that I said he's a habitual liar.

00:38:31.360 He lies about everything.

00:38:32.720 He lies about stuff that doesn't make sense.

00:38:35.060 And, you know, and again, here we got the Chamber of Commerce coming out.

00:38:39.940 Yeah, you were in the Nebraska National Guard.

00:38:43.720 You came to the Minnesota National Guard.

00:38:46.420 Why?

00:38:47.080 I don't know.

00:38:48.360 Let's talk about, oh, he says all these things.

00:38:52.120 Like, I was a football coach.

00:38:55.580 You were an assistant coach, and you were fired because of a DUI that you lied about via def on.

00:39:00.920 Okay, to try and get out of whatever you were trying to get out of there.

00:39:06.120 I mean, it's just, it's just one habitual lie after another, and they keep piling up.

00:39:12.340 And eventually you can't, there's not enough blankets to cover it up.

00:39:16.340 You heard Adam Smith suggest, there's a couple of times, you know, a couple of times he mistakenly said he was a retired command sergeant major.

00:39:23.600 We put together just our own list that we could put, that we could find of him saying that he was a retired command sergeant major.

00:39:31.400 It's not just a couple of times.

00:39:32.920 Here's, here's more than that in SOT 1.

00:39:35.020 I'm a retired command sergeant major.

00:39:37.060 This is Congressman Tim Walz.

00:39:38.360 He's a retired command sergeant major in the Army artillery.

00:39:41.400 As a 24-year veteran of the Army National Guard and a retired command sergeant major.

00:39:46.040 I am a retired command sergeant major in the Minnesota National Guard.

00:39:49.160 I have a unique privilege in Congress is that by being elected from this district and being a retired command sergeant major,

00:39:58.800 I am the highest ranking enlisted soldier to ever serve in Congress.

00:40:02.060 As a 24-year veteran of the National Guard and the Red Bull Division and a retired command sergeant major.

00:40:08.900 Congressman Tim Walz, also a member of the Armed Services Committee and Veterans Affairs,

00:40:12.400 Democrat of Minnesota, highest ranking enlisted soldier ever to serve in Congress,

00:40:17.500 enlisted in the Army National Guard at 17 and retired 24 years later as command sergeant major

00:40:23.000 and served with his battalion at Operating Enduring Freedom.

00:40:26.520 Retired out as command sergeant major.

00:40:28.680 So when you first came to Washington, you were a retired command sergeant major in the Army National Guard.

00:40:33.920 Oh yeah.

00:40:34.600 He misspoke a lot.

00:40:35.840 He misspoke a lot.

00:40:37.580 A lot.

00:40:38.000 And by the way, just so the record's clear, September 2005, Minnesota National Guard discovered that his paperwork had been filed,

00:40:44.980 that was erroneous, saying he was retiring as a command sergeant major.

00:40:49.680 And they updated it to show that he retired as an E-8 master sergeant, September 2005.

00:40:55.620 Correct.

00:40:56.280 So every single thing we just showed you was after September 2005.

00:41:00.560 Sure.

00:41:00.760 He knew that he had been demoted and he continued to say it over and over.

00:41:06.040 And then there were some vets who went to his office in 2009 to say, stop saying that and stop saying what you heard somebody else say in there,

00:41:15.660 which he has also said with his sign, that you are a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom.

00:41:21.940 Which is saying, if you were a vet of Operation Enduring Freedom, what are you saying?

00:41:29.260 What did you do?

00:41:30.820 I was in Bosnia.

00:41:34.440 He doesn't have an expeditionary medal.

00:41:38.160 Anybody that would have at least had an expeditionary medal, he has not.

00:41:45.160 He was not awarded that.

00:41:47.500 The general public thinks if you say Operation Enduring Freedom that you went to Afghanistan.

00:41:51.460 That's literally what the civilian population will say.

00:41:55.280 I mean, if I say Operation Enduring Freedom, you pretty much know what it is.

00:41:58.700 Operation Enduring Freedom covers Afghanistan.

00:42:01.720 And he threw that spin on his thing all the time, too.

00:42:04.700 He's accepted both.

00:42:05.860 Both have been said about him in introductions that he served in Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom, and he hasn't corrected.

00:42:11.780 He's allowed it to stand.

00:42:12.720 Well, exactly.

00:42:13.340 And that's the sad part about the lies that he spends is that he's out there.

00:42:17.000 He allows things to get said that are lies.

00:42:19.560 I mean, there was campaign publications sent him.

00:42:21.920 I'm in the first district there.

00:42:23.500 I'd get him in the mail, and I'd look at it, and I'd just be like, you've got to be kidding me.

00:42:26.920 I mean, can the guy just have some loyalty and some integrity and do the right thing when nobody's looking?

00:42:32.980 I mean, that's the thing that I've always...

00:42:34.740 You know, integrity is being on a deserted island as a soldier and shaving your face with a seashell if you got one.

00:42:40.860 So that if you get rescued, you look like a soldier.

00:42:43.520 I mean, that's doing the right thing when nobody's watching.

00:42:46.800 And he does the wrong thing when everybody's watching, trying to get away with it and putting a spin on it so we can get another vote and hopefully get in the next level of office.

00:42:55.140 And that's what's just sad about this situation.

00:42:58.040 And, you know, the whole point of us coming forward is it's not just...

00:43:07.040 It's everything together.

00:43:08.980 It's not just that he misspoke about being a command sergeant major.

00:43:13.600 It's not just that he lied directly to my face and other sergeant majors and officers' faces about his commitment to going to war with his unit.

00:43:26.580 And also the confidence that that brings to soldiers that are going to be in the trenches with you.

00:43:34.600 It's not just...

00:43:37.380 It's everything.

00:43:38.460 It's about him.

00:43:39.180 Weapons in war.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, we're going to make sure that the weapons that I carried in war don't fall into the hands of civilians or whatever.

00:43:47.360 And I'm like, you never were in war.

00:43:51.520 Hope woke up like many of you did five weeks ago and said, Dad, you're the only person I know who's in elected office.

00:43:56.560 You need to stop what's happening with this.

00:43:58.280 I'll take my kick in the butt for the NRA.

00:44:00.120 I spent 25 years in the Army and I hunt.

00:44:02.300 And I gave the money back.

00:44:03.760 And I'll tell you what I have been doing.

00:44:05.000 I've been voting for common sense legislation that protects the Second Amendment.

00:44:08.140 But we can do background checks.

00:44:09.320 We can do CDC research.

00:44:10.560 We can make sure we don't have reciprocal carry among states.

00:44:13.560 And we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are.

00:44:20.680 And he says things to Gold Star families that lets them allude. 1.00

00:44:26.720 Like when I came back, they told us to watch the horse whisperer and move on.

00:44:31.740 And I go, yeah, because you were in Italy.

00:44:33.800 OK, no offense to anybody that was in Italy.

00:44:36.700 But when you're sucking down a latte and people are getting shot at, there's a big difference.

00:44:41.100 OK, and everybody has a role to play.

00:44:44.460 Don't get me wrong.

00:44:45.540 Everybody has a role to play.

00:44:46.860 But the point is, is that take honest accountability for the role that you play.

00:44:52.380 But most guys who did not actually serve in Afghanistan or Iraq would never say they served in Afghanistan or Iraq.

00:44:59.480 No, I don't know anybody that's done it myself, just on the civilian side, let alone somebody running for an office at all.

00:45:07.740 And absolutely not at national level.

00:45:10.080 This is just unbelievable that somebody can have that lie spun and still be doing it.

00:45:16.540 I mean, it comes out that he has a coin that has the CSMI that he gave out to Congress or people.

00:45:22.780 That he misspoke there.

00:45:23.740 He was saying retired command sergeant major on the Harris Wall's website.

00:45:28.280 She had to pull that.

00:45:29.620 He's still saying the Minnesota governor's office is still saying it.

00:45:32.340 Right.

00:45:32.640 I mean, he's held on to this, even though, you know, people like Adam Smith suggest, oh, it was a mistake and he didn't.

00:45:39.140 It's been brought to his attention for every year he's been doing it and he continues to do it.

00:45:43.800 It must mean something to him.

00:45:45.000 I do want to tell you, we interviewed we interviewed the cast of the movie Reagan, which is hitting this weekend.

00:45:50.420 And one of the cast members is Dan Lauria.

00:45:53.180 He played the dad in Wonder Years.

00:45:55.000 And in this movie, he played Democrat Tip O'Neill, who was friends with Reagan, even though they were across party lines.

00:46:00.440 And the real guy, Dan Lauria, served in Vietnam.

00:46:03.920 He was he was in the Marines.

00:46:05.200 But he was quick when I said that to to point out.

00:46:07.720 And he's always quick to tell you he didn't actually fight in Vietnam.

00:46:11.740 He was stationed over there.

00:46:12.780 He got sent over there and then they got pushed to Okinawa.

00:46:15.260 And then there were all sorts of reasons why.

00:46:16.820 And but he wants people to know that.

00:46:18.920 Exactly.

00:46:19.580 And that seems to me the default.

00:46:20.900 Most guys are trying to make sure if you ever overstate what they actually did, they try.

00:46:26.240 They correct you.

00:46:27.220 It's it's it's people understand it's not just we don't want to overstate our importance or are the commitment that we made to the country or the things that we did for the country and ourselves and the fam and our families.

00:46:42.440 But for what I don't understand, when you say that you served in a function that you didn't if you served in combat, let's just go there.

00:46:57.160 I served in combat here or I did this there.

00:47:00.520 You are robbing.

00:47:01.940 You are robbing that suffering and that commitment and trifling it down for all the men and women that we have sent in harm's way and have not come back or have come back less than the people that have their tortured memories.

00:47:17.920 OK, and and and everybody that did that commitment, you belittle it, you're taking a piece of their thunder and you're trying to capture it and put it in a bottle for yourself and use that for your own benefit.

00:47:28.840 That's why I told these guys he is a self-licking ice cream cone.

00:47:32.440 If anything he says can come back to him, he will do it in a heartbeat.

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00:48:40.840 He's just utterly incompetent.

00:48:42.920 Look how he handled his own National Guard during the...

00:48:48.000 Well, he said there was a reason for that.

00:48:49.620 There's a reason he didn't deploy them.

00:48:51.220 And we'll show you that soundbite, too.

00:48:52.440 He's got strong thoughts about how the National Guard should be deployed.

00:48:58.380 And I guess he didn't think they were appropriate to go out the first couple of nights.

00:49:01.600 We'll say soundbite five.

00:49:04.460 He didn't think that they were appropriate to go out the first couple of nights of Minneapolis burning post George Floyd.

00:49:11.700 The mayor knew what he was asking for.

00:49:13.140 He wanted the National Guard.

00:49:14.140 And what does that mean?

00:49:14.980 I think to the mayor, yes, I think it's a perception.

00:49:17.580 I'm certainly not questioning that.

00:49:18.960 I think the mayor said, I request the National Guard.

00:49:20.760 This is great.

00:49:22.020 We're going to have massively trained troops.

00:49:23.880 No, you're going to have 19-year-olds who are cooks.

00:49:25.700 That proves, that statement right there proves how much incompetence.

00:49:33.000 How incompetent he is, okay, because he didn't even evidently know that he's got a battalion of MPs.

00:49:40.620 He evidently didn't know that he's got, at any given time, there's 300 personnel that are trained, rotated through, because I was on it.

00:49:49.340 You have 300 people that are trained, and this all came out into the report, right, that rotates throughout for 300 people that are trained for civil disruptions and natural disaster.

00:50:03.100 They have the Bryant gear.

00:50:05.460 They have the shields, the helmets, the training, the whole nine yards.

00:50:08.880 They are on call.

00:50:10.300 In 24 hours, they should have been able to mobilize them and have at least 300 individuals out there on the ground.

00:50:18.960 Was that an insult to the National Guard?

00:50:20.520 Well, absolutely, it was an insult.

00:50:22.320 When you look at the statue of the Minuteman, I think it's in Lexington, Kentucky, where they have the bronze, and he's the Minuteman.

00:50:28.920 And the reason they're the Minuteman, the statue's got one hand on the plow and the other one on the rifle, and that's why they're called the Minutemen,

00:50:37.280 because when the call goes out, you've got one minute to drop your plow, grab your rifle, and go fight.

00:50:42.220 And what he's saying right there is the absolute truth.

00:50:44.800 I mean, those people would have been on the ground.

00:50:46.340 There would have been a contingent of them there in hours.

00:50:49.640 And once that was done, the warning order would have went out to the rest of them that, hey, if this goes south, you guys need to be ready.

00:50:56.600 And we would have swarmed the cities from all corners of Minnesota, and the whole damn division would have been there within two days if that would have been called up.

00:51:06.280 And we would have sent all of them people packing.

00:51:08.720 The cities wouldn't have burned down, and it would have solved a lot of civil violence.

00:51:11.740 What about it, Rodney, because you were part of the unit that did deploy to Iraq with a bunch of 19-year-old cooks?

00:51:17.800 Well, actually, I did have them.

00:51:20.200 My cooks cooked in Iraq, but I also had the ammo guys, and we hauled ammo to all the radio relay points.

00:51:33.360 We also carried fuel up and down MSR to all the radio relay points and their food and supplies.

00:51:40.500 And we also had one of my platoons did convoy escort missions, and I had all the mechanics who fixed all the trucks.

00:51:49.780 Well, he makes it sound like they're a bunch of knuckleheads.

00:51:52.440 The people I have were very skilled.

00:51:55.540 I mean, some of the most skilled soldiers that are in the service, because you can't just take a 19-year-old cook and have him try and repair a Humvee.

00:52:04.980 You know, and you can't, it's, my soldiers were so professional, so proud of them, both men and women.

00:52:17.960 But the 19-year-old cooks all know how to shoot a weapon. 1.00

00:52:21.220 They all know how to do combatives.

00:52:23.180 I mean, all the training, we went through everything, they did exactly like any other person on the ground did.

00:52:28.620 I mean, Tom, the bottom line is, those 19-year-old cooks, they went, they deployed, and your unit lost some men on the deployment he skipped.

00:52:39.380 Like what he was saying about the Gold Star families, and Kathy Miller, you know, she's the Gold Star mom of Kyle, and we made a bronze of him, likeness of him in our memorial.

00:52:48.500 He was killed as part of your unit that deployed.

00:52:50.240 On the 29th of June, a 19-year-old kid, 19-year-old kid, and he worked in the electronic side of it.

00:52:59.120 They went on a mission, they had a mission planned to go get jamming equipment to put on our Humvees.

00:53:04.560 And he had a dream that he was going to get wounded or die on this mission.

00:53:09.560 And he, I mean, his dream literally was, it consumed him.

00:53:12.460 He went to the chaplain, and the chaplain said, you know, if you feel this strongly about this mission, I can probably get you off of it.

00:53:19.360 And you can, you know, you know, if it bothers you this much, I can get you off of it.

00:53:24.320 And Kyle said, if you did that, and somebody else went to my place, and they got wounded or died, I'd never be able to live with myself.

00:53:31.760 That's what Kyle told the chaplain.

00:53:33.340 He went on a mission, and on the way back, they backed over a, they hit an IED that was buried in the ground.

00:53:40.060 He was in the back seat behind the driver and it blew up, and he died there out in the middle of the damn desert in Iraq.

00:53:46.560 And his body was sent home to his mom and his family, and a 19-year-old kid.

00:53:52.520 And like Kathy said, you know, never really thought about it until this came up with Tim Waltz.

00:53:57.000 But she said, Kyle went on the mission.

00:54:01.380 He did not refuse to go on it because I feel bad.

00:54:04.760 I got something better to do, whatever.

00:54:06.760 It's his duty.

00:54:07.520 He knew it was his duty to go on that mission.

00:54:09.240 He was the guy qualified to get this equipment and put it on to try to save other people's lives.

00:54:15.260 And he went on, and he lost his life for our country a lot.

00:54:18.480 And she's like, Tim Waltz didn't do that.

00:54:20.780 He basically said, I've got better things to do.

00:54:23.800 You know, go pick somebody else to go on a mission.

00:54:26.800 You know, whatever.

00:54:27.860 Get that dumb farmer, Tom Behrens. 0.75

00:54:29.920 He'll probably go, you know, and whatever.

00:54:32.300 And then I'll just sit back here.

00:54:35.300 Do you think he's not losing sleep at night now because he didn't go?

00:54:38.520 Like Kyle, he would have been one of the 22 a day if he wouldn't have won on that mission.

00:54:42.800 He would not have been able to live with himself.

00:54:44.400 Right.

00:54:45.000 Because it would have bothered him to the end.

00:54:46.760 If any of us would not have went, it would have bothered us to this.

00:54:49.720 We would not be here right now.

00:54:51.400 I guarantee it.

00:54:52.320 When you think about the fact that this guy could be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

00:54:57.100 Exactly.

00:54:57.420 From being the commander in chief and in charge of all the armed forces and saying who deploys and when.

00:55:02.960 How does that make you feel?

00:55:04.120 And more importantly, helps determine, you know, could determine rules of engagement.

00:55:09.680 And then he even put, you know, politicians putting military.

00:55:13.520 Well, he could be in a situation room like Kamala was when Afghanistan fell.

00:55:19.340 She was the last one in the room.

00:55:20.660 You're not raising your hand and saying, you know, this is bullshit.

00:55:23.040 What's going on?

00:55:23.820 This is ridiculous.

00:55:24.780 I mean, I literally was in some of the worst depression in my life after that when I saw that going down.

00:55:32.380 I was like, I'd watch the news and I just, my gut just, I just was empty.

00:55:36.640 Because it was just, I saw what happened in Iraq when they withdrew and it was not the greatest there either.

00:55:42.140 Because, you know, look what happened to the vacuum there with ISIS coming in. 1.00

00:55:45.320 And all of a sudden we're doing the same crap worse in Afghanistan.

00:55:47.880 I mean, people falling off of planes and Abbey Gate and then those people, those brave heroes there that died.

00:55:54.520 I was just, you've got to be kidding.

00:55:56.040 We're doing it again?

00:55:56.880 Did you, yeah, go ahead.

00:55:57.880 And all I want to say, one of the things I would like to reiterate and punch through on this is, you know what?

00:56:07.000 Fear is a reaction.

00:56:09.020 Bravery is a decision.

00:56:11.880 And Walls has made the wrong decision.

00:56:16.840 He's not brave.

00:56:18.360 I call him a coward because he is.

00:56:21.340 Because he took the easy path.

00:56:24.920 He took the path of least resistance.

00:56:27.120 And I'm sorry, but yeah, when you go over there, things get ugly.

00:56:35.260 They get ugly fast.

00:56:38.400 You're going to see things that you don't want to see.

00:56:42.420 And you're going to deal with that.

00:56:44.920 And I just think that he is an exact result in why we have Stolen Ballard.

00:56:52.740 Where people make decisions that are cowardly and they come back or, and they try to lead vicariously by robbing other people's, you know, all the other soldiers and all the benefits that we did and all the sacrifices.

00:57:08.500 They want a piece of that and that they feel slighted.

00:57:11.680 And so, or they feel like they made a mistake and this is how they're making up for it.

00:57:16.120 You know, fantasy land.

00:57:17.460 You know what his defenders will say.

00:57:20.400 What about President Bonespurs?

00:57:22.600 Yeah.

00:57:23.260 At least he served in the National Guard.

00:57:25.220 President Trump got out of service in Vietnam by saying he had Bonespurs, which they didn't believe.

00:57:30.340 And so, who are the Republicans to cast stones?

00:57:33.040 Wouldn't you rather have somebody who at least served in the National Guard versus somebody who skirted military service altogether?

00:57:39.740 Not somebody that's a turncoat traitor, is how I would put it.

00:57:43.400 I mean, that's the thing.

00:57:44.260 If you served in it and you did what he did for 24 years and all of a sudden said, you know, when I looked up the turncoat definition, you know,

00:57:51.820 in the Revolutionary War also, it was like, no, that's what this guy did because he literally, and I just called him a deserter also because he left his post, he left his duty station, and he walked off into the sunset.

00:58:02.940 I say slithered a lot of times, that he slithered out of the armory, but he walked into the sunset, never turned around, never had any intention of ever coming back to the military.

00:58:12.620 He was gone.

00:58:14.140 And because I've got better things to do.

00:58:16.060 So, he took his uniform, and he literally turned it inside out and went off into whatever other realm he did, which was vote against anything that went on in Iraq, vote against Gitmo, vote against wherever.

00:58:28.180 And by the way, Gitmo would be a good place for him to end up at, I think. 0.71

00:58:31.460 Oh, boy.

00:58:33.000 Or 11 worse.

00:58:34.480 But, you know, that's how I look.

00:58:36.820 It's just unbelievable.

00:58:39.060 Well, how do you compare that, right?

00:58:40.300 I mean, Trump chose not to serve at all.

00:58:42.960 Right there, you got the knee.

00:58:43.860 What do you make of that?

00:58:46.120 How do you reconcile that?

00:58:48.000 Here's what I'll tell you, is that, let's, well, one, you get apples and oranges, and then two, I'll say, well, President Donald Trump decided to do battle in a different form.

00:59:06.700 And at least, you know what?

00:59:08.100 He's been shot by the enemy.

00:59:10.460 He was in good, the enemy closed in and took action against a former president of this country and tried to kill him.

00:59:20.300 And he got wounded in action, fighting for the rights and the constitution of this country.

00:59:29.220 We all took an oath to defend the constitution of this country, right, and not walk away from it, not go get married in Tiananmen Square, not, you know, go around lying about carrying weapons in war and everything else.

00:59:49.480 I mean, that he's lied about, I mean, there's morality decisions, there's ethical decisions, the army, you know, he's supposed to be the pinnacle of the army values at his position.

01:00:02.320 Anybody that knew me, that served with me in the military, you know, even when I was a brigade sergeant major, and I had 5,000 soldiers, and everybody that knows me knows that I don't sugarcoat anything.

01:00:19.680 If I don't like you, I'll tell you I don't like you.

01:00:21.980 If you're terrible at your job, I'll tell you you're terrible at your job.

01:00:25.060 If you're doing a great job, I'll tell you you're doing a great job at your job.

01:00:29.180 But, you know, the army value, you know, honor, integrity, I mean, selfless service, where is all this, you know?

01:00:39.780 Loyalty.

01:00:40.460 Loyalty.

01:00:41.140 I mean, to his soldiers and his country and the oath that he took, commitment, candor, all those in the non-commissioned officer corps.

01:00:53.100 I mean, he doesn't support any of those values that we hold dear.

01:00:58.040 And if you give him a pass, if you're in the military, you gave him a pass because he left in the middle of the night, went, left his troops, lied about everything.

01:01:11.400 You know what?

01:01:12.640 You need to look in the mirror and reevaluate your ability to say what you're saying.

01:01:18.280 Does he have to speak to this?

01:01:19.540 And so far he's gotten away with not saying much.

01:01:23.100 I mean, what would you like to see him do?

01:01:25.900 Apologize.

01:01:26.720 Apologize to the, number one, to the first district for Buffalo and him for 10 years, basically.

01:01:33.320 You know, I mean, number two, go to Congress and tell whoever the highest ranking person that actually served in Congress, not him.

01:01:42.920 Apologize to that person and say, you know, I guess I was lying that whole time.

01:01:48.740 It looks like it's you.

01:01:49.860 Now you can wear the 12-point rack now and have the crown as being the person that should deserve to say that.

01:01:57.960 What about Kamala Harris?

01:01:59.760 I mean, what she skirted it to.

01:02:01.840 Like, I think everyone should be proud of everybody's service.

01:02:04.760 Right.

01:02:05.000 Well, yeah, that's a nice way to put it.

01:02:06.740 But, you know, that's the problem with what he's, you know, he ended up bringing this on himself.

01:02:13.100 All we are are the messengers of what he has done.

01:02:16.200 And that's the problem that's out there is that he laid out this whole book of chapters of what he's done.

01:02:23.380 And the lies, lies, lies, you know, we're just continuously saying what he's doing, stolen valor right down the line.

01:02:30.480 And we're just fed up with it.

01:02:32.280 I mean, it's like Colonel Cole finally, when he heard Kamala say that he was a retired command sergeant major,

01:02:37.980 that's when he brought out his statement on this whole issue because he couldn't stand it anymore.

01:02:42.600 He sat silent for years saying, I don't want nothing to do with it.

01:02:46.720 I'm happy being just, I'm happy being a civilian, retired colonel, whatever.

01:02:51.320 And then you hear this, and that's what tripped his trigger.

01:02:54.920 How about you guys?

01:02:55.520 Why did you come forward?

01:02:56.540 Why did you think it was, I mean, you don't seem like guys who love the limelight, Roddy and Tom.

01:03:00.720 Well, the thing is, I got nothing to gain from this at all.

01:03:04.540 The only thing I have to gain from this is from the heart because this information needs to be out there.

01:03:11.580 The general public, the voters need to know this.

01:03:16.480 They need to know what they're getting with Tim Walz.

01:03:19.960 What are they getting?

01:03:21.320 They're getting somebody that I would classify his service as shameful, absolutely shameful.

01:03:30.280 Do not abandon your soldiers, and it's just wrong.

01:03:36.480 How about you, Tom?

01:03:38.080 I think the big series that I'm in is the dishonor he has put on the rest of his soldiers as far as, like I say,

01:03:44.940 the valor, using it against a civilian, like I was saying before, running Congress. 0.56

01:03:49.120 And I'm kind of beat up or I'm kind of like he's going to possibly be the second in command in our country.

01:03:59.500 And the leadership I've seen all the way through, I think that's really scary.

01:04:03.680 If I could actually bring up something else that since this started, there's been all kinds of news stuff coming out of all the different people coming forward.

01:04:11.160 And it's, some people say something about the kids he had to whatever, and then you got the help probably.

01:04:17.560 But the thing that alarms me the most on this that I heard on the news was he's been to China 30 times.

01:04:25.160 And he's a high-ranking person, and in Nebraska they had an artillery unit, and they were dealing with classified stuff that they were firing.

01:04:34.320 And he went to China like 30 times.

01:04:37.100 And I think that's really suspicious.

01:04:40.740 I really like to know more about that before we've got enough problems with China with people buying off some of our congressmen that's all over the place.

01:04:48.420 Besides the line about the combat he was in, besides the stolen valor and all the stuff he did, now it's just not right, especially with China. 1.00

01:05:02.500 They're looking into that right now.

01:05:03.820 James Comer is doing an investigation to make sure that everything's okay with the numerous contacts with China.

01:05:09.560 He got married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square for that reason.

01:05:13.020 So he would always remember his wedding anniversary and said he was treated like a king over there, that they gave him all sorts of gifts, and that he was living a lot better than anybody else.

01:05:21.640 And it is a little odd.

01:05:23.160 I mean, for sure, it's a little odd.

01:05:25.520 Well, if you sold out your guard unit and abandoned them, I mean, what are you going to do at the national level?

01:05:30.220 I mean, it's like the state.

01:05:31.380 I mean, he literally, like when the third precinct got burned down, I mean, the reporters overheard that being said that it was going to be a gift to the rioters.

01:05:40.300 Let's just let them burn that down and abandon it, and then maybe they'll feel satisfied and go away.

01:05:46.740 Well, that didn't work.

01:05:47.720 I mean, they just got emboldened and went and did further, and that's exactly what's going on with this situation.

01:05:53.060 I mean, if you do this to a guard unit and you abandon them and you do all these pathological lying going on, I mean, what are you going to do at the national level?

01:06:04.020 What kind of feedback have you guys gotten from guys, you know, enlisted guys since you came forward?

01:06:11.700 Well, you know, it's just been amazing.

01:06:13.500 I would have to say I've gotten to meet some of the greatest patriotic Americans I ever even knew existed out here.

01:06:19.820 There was a Pakistani cab driver today that was just unbelievable story of coming here, immigrating here, and working to get citizenship and doing everything right,

01:06:31.880 and how he was complaining about the migrant crisis and, you know, how everything is just given to him from schooling to housing to whatever,

01:06:39.120 and all they do is stand around and smoke pot now.

01:06:41.000 And, you know, and the soldiers that have come out, I mean, it's just unbelievable reconnecting with, you know, I haven't seen Paul in a long time or Rod for years,

01:06:49.920 and, you know, you see all them and you hear a lot of good comments, and, yeah, there's a couple of people that are willing to fall on the sword for Tim Walz

01:06:58.480 because, you know, everybody's got a friend somewhere, I think.

01:07:01.340 You know, I was surprised Tim had any, but I guess that's another point.

01:07:05.800 But, you know, that's the, there's, and I've gotten some harsh comments, but they make me smile because when I see them, I know I'm doing the right thing

01:07:15.600 because when I'm getting under their skin, basically, and they're calling me a traitor for calling him a traitor, it's like, I'm not a traitor for doing that.

01:07:23.180 I mean, I don't, I can sleep well at night knowing what I'm doing is the right thing.

01:07:26.620 And I could go to, if the election goes, and he gets in on November 5th or whatever date it is, and he's in there, I can honestly say, well, I did all I could do to try to, to try to save this country from this traitor.

01:07:39.200 I mean, that's, he's an evil man, and if nobody does anything to stop this evil, then it'll persist, and that's why we're all here.

01:07:47.380 We're here because we want to stop this from going forward.

01:07:51.140 But, yeah, I mean, we, I've gotten, I will say that I received my first piece of fan mail.

01:07:57.320 Oh, really?

01:07:58.500 A couple weeks ago, yeah.

01:08:00.620 I'm not going to say who or where, but I, you know, if you're watching, you know who you are.

01:08:05.280 You only personally mailed me one, I will say, for Michigan.

01:08:09.060 Was it signed DJT in Big Black Sharpie?

01:08:12.500 No, no, no, no.

01:08:13.260 Yeah, it wasn't in, you know, no, it was good.

01:08:16.520 No, that was good.

01:08:17.420 And then conversely, you know, I get the pushback, I don't know that I get as much pushback as Tom gets, and then there's reasons for that.

01:08:28.360 Some of it is because, one, the angrier.

01:08:31.880 They know you're tougher.

01:08:32.660 And I, but they, but I do, I have, I have gotten some shady emails, you know, basically that are, I wouldn't say out and out threatening, but the stuff that I just want to go, please, that I will say, I will tell you people that I do pray to the good Lord above every night that I really hope you show up.

01:08:59.460 Oh, boy, I thought that was going a different way.

01:09:02.560 So, you know, I don't know what tree you think you're barking up, but it's not the one you want.

01:09:10.400 Yeah.

01:09:10.740 So, but I mean.

01:09:12.020 Tom will not be there to touch the leg if you show up at Paul's house.

01:09:19.660 Hold your own legs. 0.56

01:09:20.840 But I mean, yeah, I mean, overall, I'd say 98% positive, you know, a lot of, a lot of guys I don't know, a lot of, you know, special operations guys.

01:09:35.640 I mean, just, just guys across the board that have just come out and said, thanks for bringing this to the forefront, because this really needs to be dealt with.

01:09:44.380 That's, that's how our audience, our audience feels after Tom came on, we asked for a response, and it was overwhelming the number of military guys, gals, veterans, their families who wrote in 99.99% on your side.

01:10:00.740 Cool.

01:10:01.120 It was, I mean, they're not only very moved by the whole story, they're very angry that he's doing this, and they can't believe the media is dismissing it.

01:10:09.200 And some Democrats, most Democrats are dismissing it as a nothing.

01:10:12.860 The only thing that the Democrats will give on is, yeah, he shouldn't have said he carried that weapon in war, but he just misspoke.

01:10:18.900 But it's part of a pattern, as you guys know.

01:10:21.020 I mean, it's a pattern of, you know, once you misspoke enough times, you just, obviously, you're a lie.

01:10:25.360 Well, pathological.

01:10:26.580 Pathological.

01:10:26.820 It's just right, right out there.

01:10:28.080 The thing is, he never, he never corrects it, never apologizes to it, never says, you know, he didn't even say he misspoke himself.

01:10:37.620 And this isn't make-believe, this is fact.

01:10:40.860 It's kind of weird.

01:10:41.760 It's knowable.

01:10:42.620 That's kind of weird.

01:10:43.500 It's knowable.

01:10:44.260 I think he's weird.

01:10:45.920 Weird, very weird.

01:10:47.640 You guys are not weird, you're the best.

01:10:49.660 God bless you all, you're very brave, you're brave in many ways.

01:10:52.680 I really appreciate your service.

01:10:53.960 Thank you for serving when he wouldn't, and you as well.

01:10:56.800 So, honestly, you guys, thanks for going in there and doing what we need our guys to do to keep us all safe.

01:11:00.680 We appreciate it.

01:11:01.580 Thank you.

01:11:02.220 It was a really good pleasure.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 02, 2024

EXCLUSIVE： Four Veterans Speak Out About Tim Walz's ＂Stolen Valor＂ and Truth About Retiring Before Iraq Deployment ｜ Ep. 876

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