With just over three weeks until Election Day, headline after headline is signaling doom and gloom for Team Harris-Waltz. The sugar high of her coup and her Democratic National Convention momentum is over. And just as your child will crash, sticky-faced and drooling after the fact, that s kind of the state of her campaign right now. And those around her are nail-biting, big time.
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00:00:14.460With just over three weeks to go, can you believe it?
00:00:17.960Until Election Day, headline after headline.
00:00:21.040Today, signaling doom and gloom for Team Harris-Waltz.
00:00:25.660Don't be fooled, this race could still go either way.
00:00:29.080Now, it's no time for either side to let up, but you can see what the Democrats are seeing on their internal polling based on the media reaction and what Kamala Harris is doing.
00:00:41.420The sugar high of her coup and her Democratic National Convention momentum is over.
00:00:49.320And just as your child will then crash, sticky-faced and drooling onto the bed after the fact, that's kind of the state of her campaign right now.
00:00:58.220And those around her are nail-biting, big time.
00:01:02.860And the reports are that Team Trump is not nail-biting.
00:01:06.640They, too, need to worry because their get-out-the-vote effort does not appear to be as strong as the Democrats, with all due respect to what's happening in Pennsylvania.
00:01:15.420We interviewed the guy behind that effort the other day, and he seems amazing.
00:01:17.960But they need seven of them, and it's reportedly but a shadow of what the Democrats have.
00:01:25.700Theirs gotten to shape under Barack Obama and has never waned since.
00:01:41.960But they tried to make her into Barack Obama at that Democratic National Convention, and now the polls are showing them people aren't buying it.
00:01:51.100Here's just a couple of the headlines.
00:01:52.440The Hill, Democrats start to hit the panic button.
00:01:56.060The Independent, panic sets in for Democrats as polls tighten and media interviews fall flat.
00:02:03.680Fox News, Kamala Harris's joy is quietly turning to panic for Democrats.
00:22:13.260I guess she just went for the exact thing that is Trump's best asset and her worst asset and
00:22:20.620tried to reverse them and say she had the good one and he has the bad one because he didn't want to do 60 minutes after the Leslie Stahl debacle and didn't want to be fact checked after the ABC and CBS News debacles on their fact checking,
00:22:38.560quoting unquote, at these debates we've seen like what I don't even know what she's trying to do there.
00:22:44.240Well, this is such a perfect example, I think, of her ineptitude.
00:22:49.400So there's a lot of things you can credibly accuse Trump of that will resonate with people in terms of his character flaws.
00:24:05.420The next day she tries something completely different.
00:24:07.560Also, the attack on Trump from the Democrats when he was president was that he was an unhinged militarist, that he was trying to get the United States involved in wars.
00:24:15.120We were about to go to war with North Korea or with Iran.
00:24:18.900And now suddenly we're being told that he's weak.
00:24:22.080He's the one who just a month ago got shot in that ear and then stood up despite his Secret Service demanding that he not do so and put his fist in the ear while he had blood running down his face saying fight, fight, fight.
00:24:33.400When there could have been an active sniper still out there.
00:24:35.440Yeah, I mean, the instinct when you get shot or almost get shot is that you run and hide and duck, not out of cowardice, out of just natural instinct.
00:24:45.820And he overcame that and put his fist in the ear despite having no idea what was going on.
00:24:50.120And everyone saw what he did creating those iconic photos.
00:24:54.120So I just I do think there's a way that the Democrats could run a race that would be effective against Trump.
00:25:01.140But we get back to this fact that, you know, I don't I think you saw that clip before where Gavin Newsom was on Pod Save America and he made some very snide commentary about how Kamala Harris got to be the nominee because obviously I'm up.
00:25:17.620Yeah. Yeah. And he was I made some kind of joke about like, yeah, we really had such a bottom up organic because he's obviously angry that he didn't even have a chance to run.
00:25:27.520They imposed her on the rest of the country.
00:25:29.460They did have good Democratic politicians who are at least competent who would have done much better.
00:25:34.400But they had this whole identity politics problem, which is that had they passed over Kamala Harris, it would have seemed like they were sweeping aside the black woman, as Sonny Hostin and others have been saying.
00:25:43.520And they trapped they got trapped with a candidate who, for as long as she's been around, everyone considered to be a terrible politician.
00:25:51.680And now that that is sort of coming more and more evident as the election approaches.
00:25:56.180It's truly it's one of those things like you see in Hollywood where, you know, especially back in the day, but current day, too, where some studio decides they're going to make an image around somebody.
00:26:07.640You know, it used to happen all the time when actors and actresses signed to a studio and you had Metro behind you and, you know, Mr.
00:26:15.660Mayor would personally make sure you would become a star and get the whole star making apparatus around you.
00:26:22.180And then lo and behold, you would become a star and the American populace would be fed information about you that Mr.
00:26:29.800Mayor had collated and shoved into your living room, whether you knew it or not.
00:26:34.100And then those stars were carefully managed such that they did not give any interviews that were not also carefully managed, micromanaged with the right dresses and the right setting and the right imagery all around the star.
00:26:51.740These stars were actually no no more glamorous or knowledgeable or special other than their ability to act than the rest of us.
00:26:58.900And we weren't supposed to know that because we were just supposed to accept this imagery.
00:27:02.260The same thing is happening with her, where they all including the Hollywood angle.
00:27:08.260You know, I mean, Halpern was the one who reported that CAA, one of the most powerful agencies in the country, was actually in there advising her before the DNC, along with some A-list Hollywood talent, trying to explain to her, this is how you say the line.
00:27:22.880And I'll bet they were back before that debate, giving her some help with her rehearsed little bits she was doing.
00:27:29.220And yet, unlike a Hollywood star who doesn't actually have to go out there and sit on 60 or these other moronic podcasts like the one that talks about dildos one day and Kamala Harris as president the next, Kamala Harris does have to get out there.
00:27:46.600She does have to get out there because she tried the basement campaign.
00:27:53.480And so now we're getting to see the person behind the curtain and that Hollywood veneer is not strong enough to stop her inanity from shining through.
00:28:08.400And I would actually point out that even in the heyday of like the 1940s and 50s, where those handful of studio executives could basically control how the public perceived people, not only did they have all the things you mentioned, but they also could control the media.
00:28:23.480So if anyone in journalism wrote negatively about one of their stars, they'd be excluded.
00:28:29.500Everybody knew that there was kind of a system of punishment, even though even with all those advantages, though, occasionally they would try and make a star out of somebody who simply lacked charisma, who the public just didn't connect to, didn't wasn't convinced by usually at work, but not always.
00:28:45.440The big difference now, obviously, is that unlike then, when there was, you know, a tiny handful of information controllers, you know, the networks and a couple of big radio stations and the like, all owned by the same people.
00:29:00.180The problem is, as Hillary Clinton pointed out, is that when you have a free Internet, you lose control of the ability to manipulate what people think.
00:29:08.860And so they don't have that power anymore.
00:29:11.120You can have, you know, ABC News and CNN 24 hours a day, the New York Times turning this stuff out.
00:29:17.900But there's a gigantic number of people who know that they're doing that and therefore look elsewhere, for example, to the show, which has a bigger audience than a lot of those that I just mentioned, where they cannot control the information any longer.
00:29:29.320And that really undermines their ability to maintain that kind of image in the way that those studio bosses were able to do.
00:29:35.640You are exactly right that and like the panic to steal a word from the top of the show amongst these left wingers about the loss of control of information is evident every day in the interviews that they give.
00:29:53.540They're not even trying to hide their panic, which I let me put a pin in that for one second, because I was thinking about somebody like Joan Crawford, who love the movie Mommy Dearest.
00:30:06.140And, you know, they did that with her.
00:30:08.440She was one of those massive stars who was signed to one of these big Hollywood agencies.
00:30:12.200And she did all of like the Christmas interviews with the old style microphones while she gave her interviews to the radio guys with her beautiful children splayed around her.
00:30:23.660And, oh, my fans and my family with a Hollywood accent.
00:30:28.260This is my eldest daughter, Christina.
00:31:04.800Today, it's closer to like Milli Vanilli, where they put them out there and they mouthed the right words and they had the right outfits and they learned the steps.
00:31:15.960But before too long, we realized they actually had no talent.
00:31:23.580And they went they promptly went away.
00:31:25.300Yeah, I mean, you know, I think what happened with the Democrats was they had this whatever you think of Barack Obama, a really like generational political talent.
00:31:37.040Right. The ability to like move crowds, to draw people into politics who had never previously cared about politics, his ability to kind of convince anybody that he was anything they wanted him to be.
00:31:51.540They lost with Hillary because she was a terrible politician and Joe Biden won by the tiniest margin because he's been around for so long and he actually does have some political skills as well.
00:32:02.860At least he did before his brain melted.
00:32:04.740When you have somebody like Hillary Clinton, who's an awful politician or somebody like Kamala Harris, who is as well, this whole machinery can't prop them up.
00:32:14.700Maybe they can for a little bit, a little while.
00:32:16.760Maybe they can for a few weeks, like happened with Kamala Harris.
00:32:19.180But that's the thing is Americans want to know who these people really are.
00:32:23.640They do not trust these establishment institutions.
00:32:26.100That's the other big change from the 1950s where everyone believed what they were reading in the newspaper and hearing on the TV because they trusted most American institutions.
00:32:37.260They look for it themselves and they then seek out other information that shows them another side.
00:32:43.460And this, I really think, is why when you look at Western liberalism and sort of the ruling class of neoliberals in the West, their number one agenda, and I'm not exaggerating, is to regain control of the Internet, to find a way to prevent information that they don't want on the Internet from reaching large numbers of people because they understand that that is their huge Achilles heel.
00:33:05.280And the more independent media thrives, the more a free Internet thrives, the more their power is reduced.
00:33:12.320And that's one of the things I think we're seeing now is they can do everything.
00:33:18.280She raised way more than Trump, a much better ground game.
00:33:21.240All the media on her side, every Hollywood celebrity, every power institution of power.
00:33:25.980But we're seeing that it doesn't really matter, at least not nearly as much as it used to, because the power is now more diffused because of independent media, because of the Internet, which is why that's their number one target to try and control and destroy.
00:33:42.080We covered this on the pod that we dropped early this morning with the 60 minutes edited clip around is Netanyahu listening to us or why won't he listen to us?
00:33:54.240And and they made the mistake of using one of her normally long winded, empty answers, word salad answers on the promo for the interview, which they released on Sunday and Monday.
00:34:07.020But by the time they got to Monday night's actual piece, they had realized that that made her look bad and they considerably tightened it up.
00:34:14.960I don't know whether what they played on Monday night was actually something she said in response to the question that was asked.
00:34:22.420If they grabbed it from a different part of the interview, that's a serious journalistic no, no, unless later in the interview he asked exactly the same question.
00:34:30.860But or if it was just another thing she said in a long, rambling answer that was even longer than what we saw in the tease.
00:34:37.220In any event, they did a switcheroo and now Trump is out there demanding that they release the transcript, release the full transcript and 60 won't do it.
00:34:47.920And Catherine Herridge, who worked both for Fox News with me for many years and then went to CBS, came out just yesterday and said it is there's absolutely precedent for 60 for CBS releasing an entire transcript of an interview with a sitting leader.
00:35:05.300And she referred back to her own interview with President Trump when he was president.
00:35:09.280This is the sitting vice president on 60, possibly the next president.
00:35:24.540There's a mismatch between that promo clip and what aired.
00:35:28.100When I started writing about politics and doing journalism, which wasn't all that long ago, it was 2005.
00:35:35.540In that era and long before that, the only thing that you could do if you caught the media doing something dishonest or objectionable or ethically questionable is you could write a letter to the editor.
00:35:56.600That was the only accountability journalists had.
00:35:58.800And as independent voices began growing in the media, first in what was called blogs and now much more sophisticated types of shows that basically produce the same kind of quality programming as the networks and their audience is often bigger, now they have nothing but accountability.
00:36:16.720And I used to get angry when things like this would happen where 60 Minutes would do something so obviously journalistically unethical because, like you, I didn't choose journalism in my first career.
00:36:26.120I chose it in the middle of being a lawyer because I really believed in it.
00:36:30.840It was something I really wanted to do.
00:36:33.400It used to offend me when they were abandoning their journalistic principles.
00:36:37.360Now the more they do it, the more I like it because I know that what they're doing is just digging their own grave even more deeply.
00:36:43.300And the more they got caught doing these things, the more they're driving away other people who still believe in them, the few who do, and making them even question further whether these institutions deserve any of their trust.
00:36:54.680And every poll shows each year that they lose more and more of their credibility.
00:36:59.280And it's doing things exactly like this.
00:37:02.500This just in, the Harris campaign has responded to the controversy telling Variety,
00:37:08.860we do not control CBS's production decisions and refer questions to CBS.
00:37:48.400Why don't we get to see the transcript?
00:37:50.780And honestly, it's making me suspect CBS even more because as a journalistic outlet, normally you kind of do cuts knowing the full thing could come out.
00:38:01.240Like you have, you have an ethical obligation behind closed doors.
00:38:04.200Glenn, it's like when you and I used to be young lawyers and you're the document reviewer on some massive case.
00:38:09.380And you're the one who, if you, if you happen to come across the document that's terrible for your side is going to lose the case for your side, you decide whether it goes in the to be produced file or the to be held back file.
00:38:23.700So these ethical decisions happen behind closed doors all the time.
00:38:28.520And it's just you and your moral code.
00:38:31.120So if 60 minutes followed its ethical code, which should be the same as all of ours, it should have absolutely no problem releasing the transcript.
00:38:39.780Not only that, but like in this case, as you know better than than most people, certainly better than me, when you tape an interview with some public figure, of course, you edit because you might you might interview them for three hours or two hours and you only have time for 40 minutes to show and you want to make it as crisp and concise as possible.
00:38:58.800There's a lot of fun time that you end up editing out.
00:39:13.080So in that case, in particular, to make that change, to say, here's what she said, and then have it be mocked by pretty much everybody and then eliminate it and not show it to their audience makes what they've done even worse.
00:39:26.300And you're exactly right. For me, the number one goal of a journalist, the number one function of a journalist is to bring as much transparency as possible to the public, especially about the most powerful people in public life, which at the moment includes or is led by Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, one of whom is going to be our next president.
00:39:42.740As you say, this is not a psychiatrist who has a privilege or a lawyer who has some obligations, but this is a media outlet.
00:39:50.520What possible grounds do they have in the age of limitless space on the Internet not to release the full transcript, especially given that the reason there's a question about what they've done is because they've created that question by showing us an answer that was embarrassing and then editing out.
00:40:06.300They have zero foundation to justify doing that.
00:40:09.860I know this. This is the same outlet that was lecturing all of its staff the other day on CBS News and their vaunted reputation and how we really need to live up to these standards.
00:40:20.700It's like, oh, OK, did you talk to your debate moderators about that?
00:40:25.640Did you talk to the folks over at 60 Minutes about that?
00:40:28.920Because that's either actually a principle at CBS or it isn't.
00:40:40.380OK, now back to the thing we put the pin in, which is the ardent desire of these leftists to gain control of outside entities like the digital lane shows like yours on Rumble shows like mine in on its platforms, places like X, which they're constantly harassing.
00:40:58.280Here was the soundbite you referred to the other day of you referred to it just now of Hillary Clinton the other day.
00:41:08.560We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section 230, which gave platforms on the Internet immunity because they were thought to be just pass-throughs, that they shouldn't be judged for the content that is posted.
00:41:23.560But we now know that that was an overly simple view, that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are,
00:41:35.000if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.
00:41:42.280Oh, sometimes they say the quiet part out loud, Glenn.
00:41:45.320This is probably the topic on which I focus most, and even as a lawyer, I used to focus most on free speech.
00:41:53.260But over the last, say, five, six years, I focused most on the attempts by Western governments to censor and control the Internet using things like this completely fake credential they invented out of nowhere called disinformation experts to try and make political censorship seem like something that's apolitically scientific.
00:42:10.400This is a very serious threat to Internet freedom, and as you say, Hillary Clinton, in an act of completely unintentional candor, said the real reason.
00:42:20.120This all happened in 2016 when the Internet was pretty free.
00:42:25.600First trauma was when British citizens decided, contrary to what they were told, they approved Brexit and they left the EU, and that was a major traumatizing event for all of Europe and for British elites.
00:42:38.120And then two or three months later, that was followed by the biggest trauma that American liberalism has ever experienced, which was the loss of Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
00:42:46.280That was when they realized things are spiraling out of control.
00:42:50.060We can no longer control the thinking process and the information diet of citizens.
00:42:56.380We're willing to have a democracy as long as we can manipulate people into thinking what we want and therefore voting how we want.
00:43:02.800Democracy becomes dangerous when they start becoming too free and they can actually vote the way they think they should vote and it is in their interest and we can't control it.
00:43:11.120And that was when there was this not partial but very systemic effort to start creating theories.
00:43:17.120They were financing huge amounts of new groups funded by billionaires and the like, the whole idea of which was to create these superstructures to allow Western democracies to start censoring the Internet.
00:43:27.740As you know, I think most of your audience knows, X was just banned from Brazil for five weeks because of their refusal to censor who they were told to censor.
00:43:36.140France just arrested the founder and billionaire owner of Telegram because oftentimes he refuses to censor who he's told to censor.
00:43:46.460All of this is happening exactly for the reason that Hillary Clinton said, because there is nothing more threatening to ruling class power and there never has been in history than the ability of individuals to think and speak freely.
00:43:58.520And that's why what is most under attack is that ability.
00:44:01.380Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, we've talked about before on this show, which airs on YouTube as well as on all podcasts and on Sirius XM.
00:44:09.200If we refer to the removal of healthy body parts on children in the name of gender affirmation as mutilation, we get hit.
00:44:22.000You're not allowed to say that on YouTube. So, I mean, they are controlling language and other other shows get it far worse than we get it.
00:44:28.620I mean, I really, frankly, shouldn't complain because they bother me far less than they bother others.
00:44:32.660I've had Charlie Kirk come on here and say he can't use he has to use preferred pronouns or he gets a strike on YouTube.
00:44:38.440So anyway, there are so many platforms out there that do comply and they want all of them.
00:44:44.320They want all of them complying and they want to shut down the ones that don't.
00:44:48.500I mean, they'd love to shut down X under Elon. Here is just another take on it.
00:44:54.420Dan Pfeiffer, who was an Obama guy, and he's on he's on that Pod Save America.
00:45:00.660Yeah. Yeah. Pod Save America. He's out there today talking about how he he's saying it on MSNBC interview with Alex Wagner,
00:45:10.120that it's the Republicans who control the media. Listen.
00:45:17.000They may not you may not get a caller caller daddy listener, every person with with that interview.
00:45:22.140But that those clips are going viral. Local TV, do podcasts, do our podcast, do Tim's podcast, do 60 Minutes, do it all.
00:45:29.260Trump isn't doing it all. There was some reporting, again, about the manovers.
00:45:32.340But in terms of that, you know, blanket the airwave strategy that you just outlined, that's not what Trump is pursuing.
00:45:38.440He's old, mentally declining, lazy. So that's that's the first reason.
00:45:43.720The second reason is keep Republicans have something Democrats don't, which they have a massive media operation between Fox News, Daily Wire, all these people.
00:45:52.800We don't have that yet. So we have to work. Oh, my God. Do it.
00:46:01.960You know, Megan, sometimes I try and explain to conservatives, friends of mine or people I work with or whoever, audience members, because people don't believe it, that liberals really do believe that their disadvantage is that the media is not on their side.
00:46:21.240They think the media is insufficiently anti-Trump, that they give advantages to Donald Trump, that Republicans have Fox News and the Daily Wire.
00:46:30.300That's the only two that he could think of. And he's like, we have nothing.
00:46:34.040And it's like you're on a network that 24 hours a day does nothing except promote the Democratic Party.
00:46:39.740It's part of a gigantic conglomerate called NBC News, which does the same.
00:46:45.000You turn over to CNN or ABC or CBS like we saw with the debates, and they're doing exactly the same thing to say nothing of newspapers like The New York Times or The Washington Post, none of whom have a single pro-Trump op-ed columnist, even though they have dozens of people writing on that page.
00:47:00.080The delusion required to be a Democrat and complain that your disadvantage is that the Republicans or conservatives have a part of the media they control and nobody does that for the poor little Democrats is beyond anything psychiatrists could explain.
00:47:14.460But I always try and convince, tell people, no, they really think that they're so self-victimizing that they really convince themselves that one of their disadvantages is that they have no media support for their party and only conservatives do.
00:47:27.860So it's such an inversion of reality that it's hard for people to believe who don't know them that they really believe that.
00:47:34.680And rather than saying, all right, well, conservatives went and they built their own place to bring out their message or not even just conservatives, but people who are not towing the Democrat line.
00:47:45.440I wouldn't call you a conservative and I don't really call myself a conservative.
00:47:48.600But anyway, so people who won't tow the Democrat line that they're pushing.
00:47:52.480So they created their own ecosystem or partook in their own ecosystem rather than saying, OK, that's that's what they did.
00:48:00.400We got to get a hold of this thing right away or it's going to spin right out of control and we're going to lose every election.
00:48:05.820But not only that, the person that you just showed saying this, who used to work in the Obama White House, someone totally without power or someone completely marginalized, used to be at the center of the White House very recently.
00:48:19.440They created their own podcast called Pod Save America that is always at the top of the charts.
00:48:25.760They have a gigantic audience and the only thing they do every single day.
00:48:28.940Anyways, during the political season, it's up there.
00:48:35.080No, all I'm saying is that it is a successful podcast.
00:48:37.360They have a large audience during the political year where all they do is promote the Democratic Party.
00:48:41.100They are very high on the list of people who listen to them.
00:48:44.120So it isn't like they haven't done that either.
00:48:46.780But the reason they don't really need to do that is because they have pretty much every other media outlet who does it for them.
00:48:53.220It's almost like redundant to create podcasts that do nothing but promote the Democratic Party or hate Trump because every other major network besides Fox News does that all the time.
00:49:03.200And the one thing that I always try to convince liberals of, even when they thought that I was their best friend, was, you know, this is back.
00:49:10.080I remember when I did there was a profile of you in Politico and it quoted me as saying I used to watch you on Fox News as supposedly, you know, hardcore partisan right wing outlet.
00:49:18.520Every time you had a Republican senator on your show or some conservative activist, you would pummel them with adversarial questions in a way that you would never, ever see an MSNBC or CNN host do with Democrats.
00:49:30.400So even Fox News, in my view, is not nearly the equivalent of these other outlets when it comes to partisan hackery and loyalty and everything else.
00:49:38.460And to watch them invert reality and turn themselves into victims is, to this day, I find it remarkable.
00:49:45.580It's like a psychiatric illness that needs to be studied.
00:49:49.880I feel like this audience and go, go back and look at my interview with Governor Ron DeSantis when he was still in it in the primary battle.
00:49:55.600Go back and look at my interview with Donald Trump, even though I've been open about the fact that I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.
00:50:01.040If he came on this show in the next three weeks, I would go hard on him just the same way as I encourage others to do when they have access to the Dems.
00:52:18.440So, Glenn, the tension between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris continues to play out in public in what has to be one of the most delicious storylines we've seen in a while.
00:52:34.820I mean, even though he was, you know, feeble and not up to the job, even currently, never mind for a second term, you can't blame the guy for loathing her.
00:52:48.860She clearly was ready to go just as soon as he just out of the blue called her.
00:52:52.600First, she was totally surprised to receive the call and told her that he wasn't going to run again.
00:52:56.280Within two minutes, she had the whole thing secured.
00:52:58.460And now, slowly but surely, he's like, I'm still president.
00:53:03.900And as of today, you're pretty much a no one.
00:53:06.260And it's been very interesting to watch him try to undermine her.
00:53:10.040So, first, she went out there on Friday and she was doing a campaign event.
00:53:16.280And for the first time ever, he went into the White House press briefing room and gave a presser about the hurricanes happening down in the southeast and said all sorts of nice things about Ron DeSantis.
00:53:29.320He stole her fire and she'd been upset that she couldn't get Ron DeSantis to take her phone calls.
00:53:35.520Meanwhile, she's she's the vice president.
00:53:51.700And at that moment, he went out and came to the microphones and once again started speaking about the hurricanes and basically embarrassed her.
00:54:13.220So then Kamala Harris comes out and she digs at Ron DeSantis.
00:54:17.500She's mad that he won't talk to her and make her more relevant and important than she is.
00:54:22.540And Ron DeSantis is basically like, you know, there's this gnat bothering me on my shoulder as I'm trying to manage the safety of millions of people.
00:54:34.220Here's a little sampling of that in 28.
00:54:36.380Playing political games at this moment in these crisis situations.
00:54:41.760These are the height of emergency situations.
00:55:49.140I have called and talked with in the course of this crisis, this most recent crisis, Democrat and Republican governors.
00:55:58.840Called, taken the call, answered the call, had a conversation.
00:56:02.120So, obviously, this is not an issue that is about partisanship or politics for certain leaders, but maybe it's for others.
00:56:11.180It's about the fact that he doesn't need you and has made clear you've never called him ever before during all the hurricanes that have hit Florida while you have been vice president ever.
00:56:24.060And there's a reason you are desperate to be in contact with him right now.
00:56:59.980There was a rough start in some places.
00:57:01.840But every governor, every governor from Florida to North Carolina has been fully cooperative and supportive and acknowledge what this team is doing.
00:57:27.240DeSantis says he's managing this storm because she just can't let go of it.
00:57:29.900And then DeSantis finally goes on with Brett Baer last night as he's trying to sound the alarm about the dangers in Florida and urging people to evacuate the targeted area.
00:57:41.600And he gets asked about this nonsense.
01:25:59.140Well, just two things about that, Megan.
01:26:01.360One is, the Pocahontas thing is exactly the kind of thing I was just talking about.
01:26:05.600I remember all liberals believed that him calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas was somehow racist.
01:26:11.960When, in fact, he was mocking her racism for having claimed Native American status to advance her career when she, in fact, was not Native American.
01:26:21.420Pocahontas wasn't mocking Native Americans, actual Native Americans.
01:26:24.940It was mocking Elizabeth Warren for pretending to be one when she wasn't.
01:26:33.460The other thing is, I find this so interesting, is I've seen a lot of this, having worked with Rumble now for a while, and kind of delved more into this sort of subcultures on the internet.
01:26:45.520There are a lot of people who have a lot of influence and a lot of fame who most people who work in mainstream media have never heard of, let alone even talked about.
01:26:56.240There's this whole kind of subculture on the internet with people who have millions and millions of viewers, way more than most people on television, and they're unknown.
01:27:05.160I guarantee if you ask most people who work in media or politics who Andrew Schultz is, they would have no idea, even though he commands a gigantic audience or Theo Vaughn, people like this.
01:27:14.460It's a really interesting thing, and younger people in particular have no idea who, say, George Stephanopoulos is, but you ask them who Kai Sinat is or iShow Speed, and those are their celebrities.
01:27:27.140Those are the people who they listen to, and the internet has really fragmented fame in this way that I think is super interesting, and Trump has been going on those shows, I think, oriented by Barron, who listens to them, because that's who young people listen to in a way that has been really effective.
01:37:27.680And the reason is, is because they sit in a closed information circle and they reinforce all the time for each other, to each other, that Trump is this sort of completely sociopathic monster.
01:37:39.640I've had the opportunity to spend time with Don Jr. and a couple of other members of Trump's family.
01:37:44.020And at the end of the day, when you have five adult children and they all clearly are loyal to you, your grandkids are loyal to you, that doesn't happen automatically.
01:37:54.880A lot of adult kids grow up and dislike their parents, have not, you know, people denounce their parents.
01:38:01.800So whatever else you want to say, he clearly is somebody who has earned the respect and the love of his family.
01:38:07.880And for me, when you're judging someone's character, that is one of the most relevant factors there is, because, as you know, as a parent, it's not that easy.
01:38:17.160You know, you have to be a good parent.
01:38:19.260Sometimes you have to be hard with your kids.
01:38:21.300So you look at Donald Trump, whose family obviously adores him, and you look at the caricature that liberals constantly create of him, and there's no connection whatsoever.
01:38:30.580And even the fact that he could have joked about Donald Trump Jr. that way in his party, most people would be like, oh, no.
01:39:51.680I mean, I'm sure you've thought about those things with your kids.
01:39:56.120I know I thought about them with mine.
01:39:57.720And so there's no way to think that the fact that he's given so much thought to that sort of thing, the fact that he's navigated through it, it shows a humanity that typically people refuse to acknowledge.
01:40:26.120Tomorrow on the show, the man you've heard me mention multiple times today, Mark Halpern, will be here along with his buddies, Sean Spicer and Dan Turrentine.