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00:00:36.240 hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show happy thursday christmas came early

00:00:49.720 it finally happened nearly a year after the shocking allegations against fulton county da

00:00:55.400 fanny willis first came to light a georgia appeals court has officially disqualified her from the

00:01:02.280 trump election interference case it happened you guys we were all together when this first broke

00:01:09.640 remember how the mainstream absolutely crapped on the story as a nothing burger well she's gone

00:01:17.100 she's gone she's done it's over for her and her entire office and it's official another nail in

00:01:24.140 the law fair coffin against now president-elect donald trump the court says the indictment

00:01:30.220 against the president-elect and his co-defendants still stands that's not a surprise they took a

00:01:35.220 shot tried to get it dumped along with her but no one really put much stock in that but the ruling

00:01:40.240 leaves open the question of who the hell is going to take over the case if anyone if you're keeping

00:01:47.040 tabs the jack smith cases have been dismissed without prejudice and in the new york documents

00:01:54.280 case judge mershon denied president-elect trump's bid to dismiss his conviction on the ground of

00:02:00.740 presidential immunity which was an absolute mistake that will be one of the many successful grounds of

00:02:06.600 appeal for mr trump our friend danny mccarthy expects trump will not be sentenced even without

00:02:12.820 a reversal while he's president unprecedented situation but that that that trial judge in

00:02:19.780 that case made so many uh material errors that thing's getting reversed when it goes up but for

00:02:25.840 now uh we'll just let it stay in purgatory as uh they're holding the proceedings as trump assumes you

00:02:34.000 know the presidency joining me now on the fanny willis news attorney ashley merchant partner at the

00:02:39.540 merchant law firm she is the reason that the fanny willis disqualification happened ashley represents

00:02:44.900 trump co-defendant michael roman in that atlanta georgia case and is the attorney who first shined a

00:02:50.060 light on fanny willis's and nathan wade's inappropriate relationship they were co-counsel's

00:02:55.580 co-prosecutors in the case without disclosing it and engaged in all sorts of financial transactions

00:03:00.960 that made it a compromise situation for both of them we first spoke to ashley on episode 748 which is

00:03:08.060 well worth your time to go back and listen to now this case has resurfaced also with me legal eagle

00:03:13.640 mike davis founder and president of the article 3 project he's been right about almost everything

00:03:20.760 since we started having him on it's been kind of actually eerie and our friend phil holloway georgia

00:03:26.260 based legal analyst who we got to know through this case and host of the inside the law youtube show

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00:04:37.640 welcome back all three of you to the show thanks so much thank you great to be here all right we've

00:04:44.260 got to start with you ashley congratulations uh you must be very happy and probably not surprised

00:04:51.220 i'm you know i don't know if i'm surprised or not i mean when they canceled the oral arguments

00:04:56.420 i sort of was reading tea leaves and thinking well that's going to go well for us because normally

00:05:01.260 they don't cancel oral arguments if they're going to rule against us so i thought that was probably a

00:05:05.700 good thing um but you know it's one of those things you get an email with the docket notice

00:05:10.340 saying you know with the opinion and you have no idea and you open it i mean it's just like christmas

00:05:14.120 when you know you didn't know christmas was actually coming today um it's like the presents

00:05:19.220 appeared under the tree and you didn't even know there was a tree that was happening today so

00:05:22.560 it's kind of surreal um it you know the impact of it i don't think has quite hit me yet but um i'm

00:05:28.360 very excited very happy so what does it mean can you give a a quick 411 for the non-lawyer audience

00:05:34.420 of what does this mean yeah definitely so the court of appeals has said that they they agreed with us

00:05:40.760 that there was an an appearance of impropriety and it was enough that fanny willis should not be on the

00:05:44.880 case so she and all of her deputies were disqualified um and so what that means practically is the case

00:05:50.680 will be assigned to what's called packets the prosecuting attorneys council and um they'll be

00:05:55.680 the ones that will review it and i've said from day one if we had an independent prosecutor someone

00:06:00.420 who wasn't financially or politically interested in the outcome of this case it would never see the

00:06:04.920 light of the day um it's not a case that would ever be brought i mean there's you know hardly

00:06:09.940 probable cause you could you could indict just about anything so you could find probable cause in just

00:06:14.480 about anything but i think if you had a neutral prosecutor looking at it they're going to say no way

00:06:18.380 this is ridiculous we have other cases this case is not it doesn't rise to the level of a crime

00:06:23.120 um you know and we just don't think that this is where we should be prosecuting cases so i think that

00:06:28.760 it will essentially die on the vine once it goes to an independent prosecutor um i don't think fanny

00:06:33.500 willis is going to go away quietly though i i've already got a notice of intent just got it on email

00:06:38.260 um where she plans on appealing to the supreme court so the question will be whether or not they even

00:06:43.140 want to want to touch it um you know it's a it's a good opinion so i don't think the supreme court

00:06:47.440 is going to have any interest in in dabbling in this but we'll see the georgia supreme court

00:06:52.980 georgia is fanny willis trying to make this case because it resulted in a hearing of course at which

00:06:58.280 she embarrassed herself about you and your alleged lies watch this adam abadi i thought did an excellent

00:07:05.600 job pointing out how dishonest you were with the court on monday and um i'm actually surprised that

00:07:12.580 the hearing continued but since it did here i am to meet with mr wade and talk to him about

00:07:17.740 the motion that i filed to disqualify you on january this first january motion yes i don't know if you

00:07:24.560 could say talked about um i probably had some choice words about some of the things that you

00:07:30.060 said that were dishonest within this motion but it seems today that a lawyer writes a lie and then

00:07:36.560 it's printed for all of the world to see when i met him judge reeve introduced us he handed me his

00:07:43.300 business card i'm unsure if i handed him my business card but we exchanged information he said if you ever

00:07:48.760 need any help give me a call and he walked to the parking lot um so after after that you started dating

00:07:57.880 shortly thereafter correct a lie that's one of your lies well that's not how really the trial court saw

00:08:06.620 it or the appellate court saw it and you know you tell me whether you think you're going to be getting

00:08:11.900 an apology now from fanny willis for publicly accusing you of being a liar i don't think i'll

00:08:17.800 be holding my breath for that you know and i don't know that i've ever been called a liar so many times

00:08:22.140 and you know i just kept thinking like what is it that you think i'm lying about because

00:08:26.720 just about everything that i've alleged has turned out to be true and if if something wasn't it was

00:08:31.980 it wasn't not true we fought over the term cohabitate you know we taught fought over the

00:08:37.480 term whether or not you cohabitated and that was one of her big things saying oh i lied because they

00:08:41.220 didn't live together and i was using the georgia definition of cohabitation that we have in the

00:08:45.140 criminal code if you spend the night together in someone's bed at their house that's considered

00:08:49.120 cohabitation under georgia law so you know that was the big oh you're lying because we didn't live

00:08:53.640 together well you know you cohabitate it um and so you know i think we were just playing with words

00:08:58.780 at that point but no i i certainly am not going to be holding my breath for an apology anytime soon

00:09:02.880 but i can't believe how many times i've been called a liar in the year 2024 i sort of feel like i should

00:09:07.680 i should try and come up with a new year's resolution um having to do with that i think you're good you you

00:09:13.920 don't need a resolution you've already gotten a decision that declares effectively what you said was

00:09:18.600 true and it was deeply problematic phil holloway you said it from the beginning as well that this

00:09:23.680 absolutely is untoward behavior and that you can't have just so people are reminded of what the

00:09:30.000 controversy was you can't have the sitting da um with a financial incentive to make the case go on

00:09:37.440 not because of her own job she has that no matter what but because she's having an affair with a special

00:09:43.780 prosecutor she brought in who does get paid based on how long the case goes on he's getting money from

00:09:49.440 the county if it goes on longer if it ends he doesn't and he was taking her all over the world

00:09:55.640 i said after that case i was ready to have an affair with nathan way i would love to see belize i he takes

00:10:01.820 you everywhere oh mega great to be with you look i think ashley needs to go ahead and legally change

00:10:09.360 her name to aaron brockovich because if it weren't for you know her uh you know just unending and

00:10:17.740 undying zealous advocacy for her client we wouldn't be here right now talking about this look this opinion

00:10:25.440 is absolutely spectacular i urge everybody to read it i tweeted out a lot of it but there's a lot there

00:10:32.040 and the the odor of mendacity that phrase okay which is of course the catchphrase now everybody

00:10:38.680 associates with this case that features prominently in this room even went into a footnote

00:10:44.760 and define just remind the audience what where we got that from

00:10:47.960 oh okay so yeah the the judge said look the her testimony uh that and that of wade had the

00:10:56.680 quote odor of mendacity and which means and as the court of appeals defined in a footnote they said look

00:11:03.160 odor of mendacity mendacity means uh like dishonesty and falseness okay and so this is the type of

00:11:11.800 appearance of conflict uh of interest now they didn't find an actual conflict but they said this

00:11:17.400 is the kind of uh appearance of impropriety appearance of a conflict of interest that does

00:11:23.600 warrant uh her removal from the case and there is no other remedy that will suffice the judge the trial

00:11:29.900 judge said look we're going to cure this by just making her get rid of mr wade the court of appeals

00:11:35.820 i think correctly said that's all fine and good but that doesn't cure what she did in the past it doesn't

00:11:42.700 cure the conflict of interest or the really egregious appearance of a conflict of interest and so it was

00:11:49.320 all that stuff it was the nathan wade stuff it was the mendacity the um the smell if you will of her

00:11:55.980 testimony and then of course it was also all these out of court statements that she made where she goes

00:12:01.620 into the well of a church and she slimes the defendants um in front of by the way a pool of

00:12:07.600 potential jurors okay you can't try cases on the courthouse steps let alone in the well of a church

00:12:13.020 filled with potential jurors on the case and so it was all of these things put together that i think made

00:12:18.660 this the right opinion and it's for just like ashley said the georgia supreme court i predict is not going

00:12:24.280 to want to touch this this case is effectively over it's dead it's dying it's not going to be

00:12:30.360 revived by the prosecuting attorneys council of georgia in my view wow i mean that's that's just

00:12:36.360 huge i'm going to bring mike into in a second but ashley's got to leave in a minute so i want to go

00:12:39.940 back to you ashley um did you really believe when you filed this thing initially that it could

00:12:46.780 effectively potentially end the whole case i did i mean i thought that it was it was something that

00:12:54.720 was large enough and something that was deep enough that it could effectively end it but i knew that it

00:12:59.440 would take some really strong judges um to give us you know every step we had to win we had to win a

00:13:04.880 hearing that was the first one you know so so when we filed it it's it's crazy because this time last

00:13:09.680 year i was writing the motion um you know getting ready i mean i spent the holidays preparing it and

00:13:15.000 you know editing it with with my law partner with my husband and um getting it ready to be filed in

00:13:19.880 early january and so you know with terrence bradley yeah talking to terrence bradley exactly talking to

00:13:25.980 terrence bradley you know he was away for the holidays and i remember waiting until he got back

00:13:29.600 from the holidays um to sort of verify all the facts with him but you know so it was a year ago

00:13:34.380 thinking about what's going to happen with this and i knew that we were going to have to fight so we're

00:13:39.480 going to have to take every step of the way we're going to have to another fight we had to make sure

00:13:43.360 that the judge gave us a hearing because we needed that hearing you know and then we needed the judge

00:13:47.560 to issue strong a strong order and even though judge mcafee didn't rule with us he issued a strong order

00:13:52.420 and he made factual findings that were really strong um you know i'd hoped that faunny willis would do the

00:13:57.760 right thing but she dug in um she did the expected thing you know knowing her she dug in but um so you

00:14:04.980 know i i knew that it had the the potential to completely derail the case if we won at every step of the

00:14:12.400 way but i also knew that that was going to be a really long haul and i knew that it was going to be

00:14:15.940 something where they dug in a lot and fought i mean fought vehemently you've seen how much they wanted

00:14:20.360 to keep this case but you know what one thing i want to point out is the more they dug in the more

00:14:25.220 you could see that they were biased because these are government employees if most of the time if you

00:14:30.480 say a judge is biased or you say a da is biased they say okay send it to someone else you know i mean

00:14:35.020 that's immediately when you file a motion to accuse someone or disqualify normally they're like

00:14:39.520 bye because who wants more work when you're you know when you're a government salaried employee

00:14:43.820 you usually don't want extra work so normally the normal response would be disqualify me let

00:14:49.700 someone else look at it i feel so strongly about the facts of my case that if you had a neutral and

00:14:54.120 detached prosecutor they're going to come to the same conclusion so i don't need to have a personal

00:14:58.600 stake in this case so when we saw her dig in and not do that that said all we needed to know

00:15:03.880 that said you definitely do have a personal stake in this case yes i mean it could have been that she

00:15:10.940 was seeing the world thanks to nathan wade's additional money and it could have been hatred

00:15:15.800 of donald trump either way it's inappropriate hatred toward the defendant is not an appropriate

00:15:20.380 motivator for a da she's supposed to just seek justice what was your what was your client's reaction

00:15:26.520 uh when you told them the news yeah so i got to call him this morning and you know getting to make

00:15:31.180 a call like that is pretty exciting i'm not gonna lie that's a pretty that's a pretty special moment

00:15:34.760 and so we definitely had a special moment um we were we were teared up over it um and in shock

00:15:40.520 you know and and kudos to him because i couldn't do it without him having the fortitude to fight i mean

00:15:46.460 he was offered a misdemeanor reckless conduct plea he was offered one of the first pleas in this case

00:15:50.940 and he rejected it so he could have taken a plea last september be done with this and he had the guts

00:15:56.920 to fight and he i mean he had to authorize me doing this you know had to authorize that me

00:16:01.520 i mean i i have autonomy in my job but i'm also not going to do something like this without my

00:16:06.460 client's approval and so you know i'm really proud of him for having the guts most people wouldn't have

00:16:11.260 the ability to to turn down a misdemeanor when they're faced with a rico charge um and so you know

00:16:16.100 i was i was proud of him and he was proud of me so we had a special moment i feel like president

00:16:21.060 trump owes him a solid if he hadn't filed that motion i mean you you were onto this when nobody

00:16:28.180 else was onto this it took a local lawyer with local connections i mentioned terrence bradley

00:16:33.140 because he was in practice with nathan wade and they had been very close and he knew what was going

00:16:38.420 on between the two of them and before he realized that this would all blow up he told you about it

00:16:43.060 hit things with he with uh bradley and um wade didn't end well so he he was fine ratting out his

00:16:48.760 friend and then when he took the stand speaking of odor of mendacity he just pretended he knew

00:16:53.580 nothing to the point where the trial court was like i put absolutely no faith in a word that man

00:16:58.260 said but that's how transparent you were you were like here's my entire phone here i'll give you my

00:17:02.340 whole phone to the prosecuting attorney you can look at every single text message i have nothing to

00:17:06.780 hide but still you got accused of lying you didn't lie you told the truth and i know it was it was

00:17:12.620 unbelievable you know and i'm not tech savvy so i didn't really know how to turn it over to them but

00:17:16.280 i'm like i have nothing to hide here you know but you can look through that i wish that that they had

00:17:21.480 had the same um ability to be transparent you know we still haven't seen behind the curtain there's

00:17:26.520 still a lot of things that we don't know the answers to um you know but at your point where

00:17:31.480 you said that basically this hatred for donald trump you know i've gotten i've recently gotten

00:17:36.440 some more open records which i've just been going through the last couple days and the day that

00:17:40.760 fonnie willis hired nathan wade she also purchased a ton of books all of the books that people had written

00:17:45.860 about donald trump and about the 2020 election um for her and her team so you know you can just see

00:17:51.240 before they even had these charges they're reading books to try and figure out this case um trying to

00:17:56.920 figure out how to make the case and their books written about hatred essentially for donald trump

00:18:01.660 and his entire presidency so you know i think that just really shows the motive here i know you got

00:18:06.600 to go one of the mysteries is what happened to susan what happened to susan right remember the ada

00:18:11.000 she bailed oh anna bradley anna okay it was anna oh yeah she bailed when that guy took a stand and

00:18:18.020 clearly lied nobody has seen her again so and anna is a well-respected lawyer so i sort of reading

00:18:26.700 tea leaves there just think that she did what we would call a quiet withdrawal you know and just

00:18:31.720 no longer worked on the case has not appeared since hasn't filed another writing so i'm kind of

00:18:36.640 thinking that that means that she knew something was wrong and she didn't want to be involved in it

00:18:39.880 me too anna cross that's right she was an ada on the case and once that guy terrence bradley took

00:18:45.340 the stand and he should have just confirmed yes nathan did tell me they were having an affair was

00:18:49.280 going on before she selected him all the stuff and instead he wiggled and wiggled and lied what i think

00:18:54.020 and next thing you knew you know that one of the da's lawyers was never seen again because we

00:18:58.940 lawyers don't really much like to be in the business of suborning perjury from a witness

00:19:02.520 ashley merchant congratulations thank you total victory good for you thanks for having me it's

00:19:08.520 good to see everyone oh you too mike davis right again what do you what's your reaction to the news

00:19:15.080 i would say this uh mike roman is a warrior thank god he pursued this and thank god he picked ashley

00:19:24.060 as his attorney if i'm ever in hot water i am calling ashley because she is also a savage

00:19:30.480 uh she took the she took fanny willis to the mat and she won i mean think about what fanny did here

00:19:38.240 she hired her dumb unqualified boyfriend paid him seven hundred thousand dollars in fulton county

00:19:47.780 funds she took illegal kickbacks from this dumb unqualified boyfriend nathan wade in the form of

00:19:55.480 these lavish trips around the world she told us all that she's a gray goose girl she lied about it

00:20:01.600 in court she perjured herself and uh somehow she survived that with the trial court because that

00:20:09.080 scott mcaffey turned himself into a pretzel to to let her stay on the case but kick off nathan wade from

00:20:17.140 the case uh the the georgia court of appeals did the right thing here by disqualifying fanny willis

00:20:25.320 and thus disqualifying the entire office this case is dead it's i i agree with phil it's not coming back

00:20:33.320 this this this is just another part of the democrat lawfare that backfired and backfired spectacularly

00:20:41.780 and i would say to fanny willis you better lawyer lawyer up darling because i imagine

00:20:46.980 the trump 47 justice department may be looking at federal felony charges against you for honest

00:20:55.240 services fraud uh maybe bribery there are so many potential crimes that fanny willis could have committed

00:21:02.080 and uh as she likes to say nobody's above the law i'm sorry i have no problem with that none whatsoever

00:21:09.100 this woman would not let go of this case even when she knew she had done wrong she definitely in my

00:21:16.740 opinion took the stand and lied committed perjury notwithstanding the fact she's an officer of the

00:21:20.620 court and so did nathan wade and she should be pursued she should she should be pursued with the

00:21:24.900 exact same vigor that she pursued donald trump that is the only way these these people who went after

00:21:30.520 him with such venom will learn i mean alvin bragg and fanny willis in particular uh okay here's the

00:21:38.280 moment i remember you guys know this we met you shortly thereafter phil when we started covering

00:21:42.480 this and you were like hey i i know a lot about this um this case when it broke almost a year ago

00:21:48.300 was dismissed i was like this is bullshit there's just some loser lawyer down in atlanta who no one's

00:21:55.820 ever heard of trying to question you know what is this salacious nonsense about an affair between these

00:22:02.440 two like come on we're above it and um the new york times's team over at the daily had a discussion

00:22:09.860 about that shortly after it did catch fire as we all knew and predicted from the get-go it would

00:22:18.520 listen if i'm remembering correctly the feeling that a lot of people had when this motion was filed was

00:22:23.960 that it was kind of a hail mary right and there was not much evidence that it was necessarily even true

00:22:30.600 yeah well i mean there was a hail mary in the sense that michael roman's lawyer didn't include

00:22:37.200 any evidence to back up her claim this very salacious claim so there was a moment there when

00:22:43.720 nobody knew really what to make of it it was a very uncomfortable moment it was a hail mary you know

00:22:50.480 that really phil it's like no one really no one saw it going anywhere yeah look and i remember

00:23:00.400 very clearly um because i was posting on x or twitter about it whatever it was at the end

00:23:07.000 and other media we were talking about it here and and we we got just a lot of people just dismissed oh

00:23:13.060 well there's you know there's no evidence and all this but i knew better okay i knew there was evidence

00:23:18.000 um and and even if i didn't know maybe what exactly some of that evidence was i know ashley merchant

00:23:26.160 were co-counseled together on certain cases even right now and if ashley merchant says she's got

00:23:32.300 evidence she has evidence and there is no doubt about it in my mind and so we fast forward to the

00:23:38.480 hearing and of course lo and behold it all became public record we saw a lot of what her evidence was

00:23:44.760 and we saw that this thing does have legs and to be honest with you some of the best uh evidence for

00:23:51.760 ashley and her client uh in this case was the testimony of of willis right because if she had

00:23:58.580 not uh testified the way that she did and made this whole thing into such a outrageous spectacle

00:24:05.700 it probably would not have caught the attention of the georgia court of appeals the way that it did

00:24:11.580 because they pointed out in this opinion guys they said look normally the mere appearance of a

00:24:18.080 conflict of interest is not going to be enough but this is the exceptional case that may be the rule

00:24:23.660 but this is the exception and it's the exception because it's so egregious how did it get so egregious

00:24:29.460 it got so egregious because of the way she marched herself into that courtroom and for the whole world to

00:24:36.480 see displayed that she has a personal interest in this case it's personal to her it's a vendetta almost

00:24:44.600 and as the court of appeals pointed out in this opinion prosecutors are supposed to serve the public

00:24:50.680 interest not their own interests not even their personal egos if that's what it was but in this

00:24:56.260 case there's this um odor that all these other things exist in terms of a personal interest whether

00:25:02.680 it's with her paramour or the fancy trips that he takes her home or the the fact that he gets paid

00:25:08.120 more and more and more the longer this case goes on all of these things piled up together against

00:25:14.000 willis and here we are today and it's worth noting that ashley's client of course as she mentioned

00:25:21.160 you know props to him for having the tenacity to to to allow her to do this but all the other

00:25:27.780 defendants in the case even if they didn't participate in her motion and a lot of them did not join in this

00:25:33.200 motion this ruling applies to all of them every single defendant in the case whether they joined in her

00:25:40.220 motion or not they benefited uh from what she has pulled off here and it's quite remarkable and it's

00:25:46.500 historic and it's something that um kind of restores a little bit of faith in the georgia justice system

00:25:52.040 today you know mike as a practical matter this is just so helpful to trump because what he was alleged

00:25:59.940 to have done in this case wasn't all necessarily in his role as official you know like official acts

00:26:06.340 president thus falling within the supreme court ruling saying he has immunity for that and you

00:26:11.540 know the sort of scheme with the electors and some of the stuff after the fact so it it might have been

00:26:16.220 tougher to dump this case based on the supreme court than it was with the others so it really in some

00:26:22.940 ways did come down to this motion by ashley merchant and she did it and you know what's the best part of

00:26:29.900 it because i think we'd be cheering it on either way because this was just a bullshit made up claim

00:26:34.600 but what's so great about it is she is fanny willis is guilty like this actually happened we all believe

00:26:43.080 that there was so much testimony nathan wade he lied under oath in his interrogatory answers in his

00:26:49.020 divorce proceeding where he claimed there was nobody that he'd taken the trips with he had no receipts

00:26:54.680 from any trips he'd taken with it was all lies he'd been all over the world with fanny he was a proven

00:27:00.380 liar and this case came down to his testimony and fanny's testimony neither was credible they

00:27:06.700 embarrassed themselves on the stand and really what they showed was that they're not people of good

00:27:11.180 character and that's that was really at the heart of the problems behind them bringing this case to

00:27:17.580 begin with yeah i would say this number one to mike roman uh to fanny willis you probably don't want

00:27:25.820 to go after the best opposition researcher and lawyer in the republican party if your own house is not in

00:27:33.460 order so cheers to mike roman to ashley merchants uh what country do you want to go serve as the

00:27:39.500 ambassador under the trump 47 administration i think you have to pick maybe napa uh you know you want to

00:27:46.400 you want to you want to go have a job at napa you want to go be the ambassador to police whatever

00:27:50.540 whatever job you want to take you'll have to to fanny willis i would say this this is my message to

00:27:57.680 fanny you can be dumb incompetent arrogant and corrupt you might uh yeah i don't think you're going to be

00:28:07.120 able to get away with all four of those things maybe one or two but not all four yeah well tell it to joy

00:28:13.980 reed because remember speaking about fanny and some of these other soros appointed da's many of whom

00:28:21.360 got their jobs under the oh we need more you know dei whatever remember this from joy reed i think

00:28:27.500 fanny willis is a hero she is a national hero maga could not prove an actual conflict of interest since

00:28:33.560 there was not but because america is always america the victory for da fanny willis also came

00:28:39.080 with a scolding for a professional black woman about her judgment there is something wonderfully

00:28:44.820 poetic the first person to actually criminally prosecute donald trump is a black harvard grad

00:28:52.540 the very kind of person that his former staff the people who worked for him steven miller etc want to

00:28:59.980 never be at harvard uh law school but he was and a black woman is doing that same exact thing in

00:29:07.380 georgia and a black woman forced you to pay 175 million dollar fine donald trump is being held

00:29:13.820 to account by the very multicultural multiracial democracy that he's trying to dismantle and for

00:29:20.840 me there's something poetic and actually wonderful go dei if my dei's are bringing it home on

00:29:27.160 what do you make of that mike oh my lord this is like the clown car of dei prosecutors going after

00:29:37.060 president trump this blew up in their faces and i hope and pray that they are on the receiving end

00:29:44.500 of a federal criminal probe under 18 usc section 241 conspiracy against rights a very serious federal

00:29:54.520 civil rights felony when you politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law enforcement at every level

00:30:02.300 federal state local to go after trump to go after his supporters uh you have you have committed a very

00:30:09.620 serious federal civil rights felony 18 usc section 241 so i hope these uh these dei prosecutors lawyer up

00:30:19.740 it already cost them the presidency it cost them the senate and it could cost them a lot more uh depending

00:30:26.580 on what the investigations into them which are undoubted uh will likely show so phil bottom line

00:30:32.480 you say this is there won't be another prosecuting like if the person has to volunteer to say i'll do

00:30:38.240 it and you say there's there's no one who's going to do that in all likelihood yeah i don't see it

00:30:42.580 because you know each each district attorney's office in the state of georgia you know they've got

00:30:46.940 their own problems they've got their own crime issues they got murders they got assaults they got

00:30:51.800 organized retail theft they've got all the things that plague the citizens of the state of georgia and

00:30:58.480 elsewhere around the country of course but this this is the business of what local prosecutors do

00:31:04.180 they don't have the time nor the inclination to go back and clean up willis's mess because they would

00:31:11.520 have to start over from the very beginning because she has so tainted this case that even if there were

00:31:18.120 any evidence that anybody committed a crime it's just not a viable indictment it will not work

00:31:23.500 and it's going to have to start over from scratch and oh by the way even if a prosecutor wanted to

00:31:28.960 take it they would still have to bring it in fulton county so if you're the da in some other county

00:31:34.800 you're going to have to pick up your show and take it on the road down to fulton county for all the

00:31:38.980 proceedings so for all the reasons that we've been talking about i just don't see the prosecuting

00:31:44.680 attorneys council of georgia even wanting to transfer it to somebody else and even if they

00:31:49.260 did no rational prosecutor no sane prosecutor in their right mind would want to get involved in

00:31:55.620 this fiasco against the president-elect of the united states one additional question phil um

00:32:01.240 what you know they filed an appeal as ashley mentioned already fanny's trying to appeal this

00:32:05.900 up to the georgia supreme court what do they have to take it can they reject it and if they do take it

00:32:11.000 how do you like the chances there so it's a discretionary appeal and so they don't have to

00:32:16.360 take it i predict that they won't uh normally they won't grant certiorari to pull up a case

00:32:22.120 that they where they agree with the the lower court's ruling okay it's just like any other appeal that

00:32:27.140 we've seen even out of the u.s supreme court the same sort of scenario applies so i don't see them

00:32:32.280 taking the case it's a very well worded opinion i think it's strong i don't think it's the kind of

00:32:37.240 thing that the uh georgia court of appeals would reverse the only reason they might take it is if

00:32:42.960 they too wanted to underscore to all prosecutors throughout the state do not comport yourself this

00:32:50.740 way do not conduct business in the state this way conduct your affairs in the public interest

00:32:56.880 and not your own interest now that would be a message that i could see the georgia supreme court

00:33:02.760 pulling this case up to just to make that message right there it was a two-to-one opinion uh all three

00:33:09.360 republican governor appointed although different republican governors one person dissented who was

00:33:14.860 a brian kemp appointee saying i i think this really is the trial judge's call and that we really don't

00:33:20.920 have the authority to overrule him the other two said no an abuse of discretion is reviewable by an

00:33:25.960 appellate court and we think this one was so egregious that this judge did abuse his discretion by not

00:33:30.640 disqualifying her and it's our obligation to protect you know the law and the system and this

00:33:35.620 was one of those appearances of impropriety appearances not actual but appearance of impropriety

00:33:40.280 that is so great as to demand her dq such a great result guys thank you i'm sure we'll have much more

00:33:46.840 to discuss over the next four years but what a great way to go into the christmas season great to see

00:33:51.140 you merry christmas thank you happy new year everybody yeah you too you too merry christmas wow

00:33:57.400 what a thing you guys right we were all together i feel like we went through this whole thing

00:34:02.300 together nobody else is even covering this remember the day phil came on and we had all the text messages

00:34:07.860 between ashley and uh brad terrence bradley and read them all on the air i was like such such a great

00:34:18.020 story um not really for fanny but you know for us and ultimately for trump and michael roman

00:34:24.320 at all okay up next vdh is here for the rest of the show can't wait to get his reaction

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00:35:37.320 slash health yeah join me now victor davis hansen senior fellow at the hoover institution and author of the case

00:35:48.880 for trump which was just updated for 2024 that was officially not one of the books that fanny willis

00:35:54.400 was reading and when she was pursuing when she was pursuing donald trump and getting her office psyched

00:35:59.500 up to get him vdh welcome back to the show wow i mean it's just a complete victory for

00:36:07.160 trump on this law fair i mean not to mention politically but on this law fair in particular

00:36:11.080 yeah especially given the humus and arrogance of fanny willis and that whole prosecutor team

00:36:17.340 you know i you're you're a lawyer megan um but when i review all of these judges i know the prosecutions

00:36:24.560 in these five criminal and civil cases were weaponized but when you think of the local and state judges

00:36:31.560 and i'm thinking of ingoron remember him in the league i think he was the lead to jane then we had

00:36:37.680 mershawn in the alvin bragg case and then we had this mcafee in the fanny willis case and then we had

00:36:45.680 cohen and the eugene carroll and they all were not just biased and really politicized and weaponized

00:36:52.040 the courtrooms but they were incompetent and they they were i think they're all going to be overruled

00:36:57.160 and i've never seen a level of judicial incompetence i i grew up with a mother who was

00:37:03.680 the second superior court judge in our county here in fresno county but she was the second woman

00:37:09.920 appellate court judge in california stanford graduate 1946 and i only mentioned that because i

00:37:16.240 i followed her as a young kid and sat in her courtroom a lot and i i and the judges that were

00:37:22.620 surrounded him they they were just a different generation than these weaponized politicized

00:37:27.420 media hungry judges that we saw in the lawfare conducted against trump that's the thing so we

00:37:34.560 played a soundbite of joy reed like you go my deis you know like i don't know if you heard that but

00:37:40.380 it's the problem is not fanny willis's race it's that she was promoted to this role

00:37:47.640 probably in in part because of her race and her gender right because the the left leftist party

00:37:54.160 likes to celebrate those things over merit she was not smart enough or competent enough for the job

00:38:00.220 which this case has proven it was she wasn't ready to try this rico case against trump and these others

00:38:06.080 and by the way no one smart would have engaged in this unethical behavior and then taken the witness

00:38:11.880 stand and clearly in my opinion lied about it under oath so the problem is not the election or the

00:38:17.440 elevation of people of color or of women in particular it's that if you lower the standards

00:38:23.880 of merit and accomplishment and seriousness to promote people like that you get what you get

00:38:32.680 and you can't get upset as we say to our toddlers this is what you're going to wind up with somebody

00:38:37.180 who can't get it done who makes stupid decisions that foil the case for you yeah i agree i think there

00:38:45.460 was a little racial element though in the animus and the public announcements of bragg if you collate

00:38:52.460 willis bragg and james they all uh in the case of james and bragg they ran on the idea that donald trump

00:39:01.460 was this right-wing illiberal person and they were part of the people the dei the retribution the social

00:39:10.940 justice remedy for people like trump and there was a thinly disguised i think racial element i but i

00:39:18.060 don't think that was the dominant element but it was there i mean jack smith was in i think was

00:39:22.160 incompetent and biased as well as well as eugene carroll's attorneys that filed a civil suit but

00:39:28.420 there was something about what joy reed was saying if you look at the flip side of what she was saying

00:39:34.360 she was basically admitting that she saw this in racial terms and there were people like joy reed

00:39:41.420 whether or not james or bragg or willis uh encouraged that publicly or not that did see this

00:39:48.180 is as a sort of a comeuppance for an old white guy who was biased and this was the dei remedy to him

00:39:55.060 and they did they did further that they're still saying that campaign so yeah they did listen to

00:39:59.580 this victor um dean obadala former attorney he's a he's now at sirius xm hosting a show but was i know

00:40:05.960 i think from cn from msnbc contributor to the daily beast he he tweets out as follows or he no it wasn't

00:40:12.360 a tweet it was um an op-ed that he sent out back uh in well a year ago november georgia appeals court

00:40:19.880 disqualifies for wait a minute this this is today sorry this it's the earlier he wrote an op-ed he

00:40:27.420 tweeted out today georgia appeals court disqualifies fulton county da fanny willis from prosecuting trump

00:40:32.340 the system is working exactly as designed to protect wealthy white men from being held accountable

00:40:41.000 is that what happened here yeah i don't think that works anymore whether across the political

00:40:46.980 landscape if you look at mayor johnson and look at his raucous city council meetings of

00:40:53.060 average middle-class blacks who are angry about his elite idea of immigration illegal immigration

00:40:59.520 and illegal immigrants being privileged over his own constituents and then you look at the vote count

00:41:05.080 in these states i mean georgia went for trump you know and black males despite the propaganda

00:41:13.220 despite the pressures within the black community were 25 to 30 percent uh for trump and what we're

00:41:20.020 watching is there's a lot of people in the black community that are realizing they have more in

00:41:25.460 common with latino and white working class people than they do with the fanny willis's and the mayor

00:41:31.060 johnson's and the latina james and you know the joy reeds and they're saying we have the same problem you

00:41:39.200 and the white community and the latino community have you have bi-coastal elites and others that speak

00:41:45.460 for us and talk down to us and nothing no no one more than those iconic moments in which barack obama

00:41:53.040 came out of one of his four mansions remember and he said to those black activists that were working for

00:41:58.720 fanny willis you don't know it but i have to inform you that you may be suffering from false consciousness

00:42:04.560 racism and sexism that's right that was so offensive and fanny willis too played the race card openly in

00:42:14.060 this case which i also think is repulsive to fair-minded black americans who are sick and tired of hearing

00:42:23.120 their race used as a weapon to justify bad behavior by in this case a black woman and a black man they see

00:42:31.220 right through this too they know this is bs when she got in trouble this came out ashley filed her

00:42:36.520 motion it was clear she'd been having an affair with the special prosecutor she brought in who was

00:42:42.060 then enhancing her lifestyle lavishly by flying her all over the world in the hotels and so on

00:42:49.580 and rather than saying that was dumb i shouldn't have done that and i understand you know what for the

00:42:55.700 sake of the case i'm going to disqualify myself and another prosecutor can take this she didn't do it

00:42:59.840 what'd she do she went out and played the race card saying oh why they only come after nathan wade

00:43:05.800 i brought in two other prosecutors who they have no issue with well you're not stupping the other two

00:43:10.520 remember this um this was it was january 2024 listen why does commissioner thorn and so many others

00:43:22.560 question my decision in a special counsel i appointed three special counsel this is my right to do

00:43:29.300 paid them all the same hourly rate they only attack one first thing they say oh she gonna play the race

00:43:38.300 card now but no god isn't it them who's playing the race card when they only question one why are they

00:43:46.260 so surprised that a diverse team that i assembled your child can accomplish extraordinary things

00:43:54.260 god wasn't it them that attacked this lawyer of impeccable credentials how come god the same black

00:44:02.380 man i hired was acceptable when a republican in another county hired him and paid him twice the rate

00:44:10.100 oh y'all ain't hear me why is the white male republicans judgment good enough but the black female democrats

00:44:19.260 that's not oh that's a self-condemnation yeah that's self-condemnation because she basically

00:44:26.620 proved to everybody she's not as good as the other judges and it was not because she was black but if

00:44:31.680 she wanted to make that a case then it's it's embarrassing and of course as you point out the

00:44:37.160 obvious answer is well nathan wade was treated differently because you hired him and paid him seven

00:44:44.000 hundred thousand dollars and you were a beneficiary of that money when you knew he was incompetent

00:44:48.820 and he was even going to the white house and coordinating with a with the biden legal counsel

00:44:54.020 and charging them for the pleasure of doing that so i i think that a lot of black males especially but

00:45:02.060 the black middle class looks at that and not all of them the majority probably doesn't but a growing

00:45:06.980 minority of black males black females middle class people say do not use us do not demagogue us just

00:45:14.860 so you can live this lavish lifestyle and then when you get caught claim that it's uh that you got caught

00:45:22.240 because people don't like us we're not going to serve for you as a as a foil for you and i think

00:45:27.920 that's going to grow and the irony of this whole conversation is the person that the never trumpers and the

00:45:34.520 romney mccain bush wing of the republican party said would permanently alienate minorities because

00:45:40.500 he was himself racist donald trump proved out proved in this last election to really be very successful

00:45:47.440 in a way that no republican dreamed of substituting class interest for race and got a higher percentage

00:45:53.300 of the minority vote and almost anybody in the last 50 years that was republican you know victor i've

00:46:00.040 been listening to you and reading you and you've you've captured something that i think we were

00:46:05.840 feeling but maybe hadn't given voice to which is part of what's happening right now i think in the

00:46:10.600 groundswell of support behind trump is americans love a comeback they love it but they also love it

00:46:18.640 when it's been like the most epic historic pile on or at least one of them i can't think of one that's

00:46:26.580 worse that we've ever seen against a presidential candidate and a guy who served as president

00:46:31.580 in the nation's history i mean trump got it from all angles including assassination attempts but the law

00:46:40.600 fair ironically would prove critical i think to his rising again to the respect and the admiration of a lot

00:46:49.000 of people toward him it was a colossal colossal mistake for them to do it and they did it repeatedly

00:46:57.360 with in five different uh arenas and you can see how out of touch joy reed was because she had no idea

00:47:03.760 that when donald trump had that mugshot and people knew that was unfair and he looked defiant a lot of

00:47:09.860 people who had felt that they had been on the wrong end of an indictment they empathized with even the

00:47:15.260 ones who didn't said this is not fair and look at him he's not weepy he's not crying he's defiant just

00:47:21.180 like he was after the assassination and you wanted to tell these people get out of your bubble do you

00:47:27.320 realize that when you impeach him twice and you try him as a private citizen and then you spend two and

00:47:34.320 a half times more than he does on a campaign you try to get him off 16 state ballots you wage five

00:47:41.380 indictments 91 indictments or 93 against him and you fail on every occasion it's not just neutral you

00:47:49.640 don't start back to square one you lose your credibility incrementally each time and they didn't

00:47:55.840 understand that they just kept it up and finally he made a mockery of them with the mcdonald you know

00:48:00.780 when she said i worked at mcdonald's and he said no you didn't and they all rallied to her side and then

00:48:05.760 he went to mcdonald's and that iconic moment when somebody drove in i think he was indian american he

00:48:11.460 and he said to trump he got kind of got startled and he said well i'm just ordinary and trump said

00:48:17.700 you're not ordinary and his wife said you took a bullet and trump the old trump might have said yes i

00:48:23.220 did but he kind of stopped for a minute and he got reflective and he said i guess i did and you could

00:48:29.940 see that all of this stuff that it was doing to him the only way he could survive was to fight back

00:48:36.020 but he also got really philosophical it's almost like he had a animal cunning that he knew what they

00:48:41.300 were doing in the long run if he survived one more indictment one more day it was all going to boomerang

00:48:47.580 on him and he had a marvelous staff and when they started to stage these moments at a garbage truck

00:48:53.540 mcdonald's going into madison square garden it was just i don't think the elite left has ever is going

00:49:02.040 to recover for a long time and then it was a cultural phenomenon when people you know we were

00:49:07.820 talking megan just two years ago we would be talking about the absurdity of taking the knee and that

00:49:13.640 whole blm phenomenon fad hysteria and then we had people in the nfl who had taken the knee they were

00:49:21.400 doing this ymca dance i'd never seen anything like it it was not it was a cultural it was a cultural

00:49:27.840 counter-revolution and people finally just said stop it we're sick of you we want a border we don't want

00:49:34.620 people looting as if and shoplifting at this normal there is really only two sections don't push that

00:49:40.100 down our throat that humiliation in afghanistan was the worst we've ever seen it was just a rejection

00:49:46.060 on all economic political social cultural front and trump sort of spearheaded this counter-revolution

00:49:53.120 that was it was the greatest comeback in america much even more impressive than harry truman or

00:49:58.640 richard nixon or andrew jackson it was just amazing the um yeah the shift in what used to be considered

00:50:06.460 aggressive like it was it's a little aggressive to wear your maga hat back in 16 i had so many people

00:50:12.780 say that to you've got kids including my own openly wanting trump t-shirts and they'll wear them

00:50:20.560 wherever they want to without shame they'll proudly wear them they they already wore maga hats i mean it's

00:50:25.600 just there's been something remarkable there's absolutely no shame around it now people are proud

00:50:30.680 it's actually cool and it's all honestly it's due to well i guess two things the trump and and the

00:50:39.500 democrats taxic tactics against him but how he handled them has been an example in how to fight

00:50:44.580 stand by victor moore right after this quick break

00:50:47.280 now as kamala harris has lost and no one's done the in-depth think piece other than us on how

00:50:58.940 problematic she was she was forget the team around her and their decision making yes that that too

00:51:04.860 but she it's been hands off of her um we now get the press turning on joe biden so it's like now

00:51:13.900 they're getting really honest about joe biden okay yes fine but still nothing on her pod save america

00:51:21.100 going after biden and the wall street journal yes they went after him before but they have done yet

00:51:27.200 another relatively in-depth piece on his failing mental acuity by the way he's still president just for

00:51:34.720 those of you keeping track at home on how he cabinet members were not able to speak to him they

00:51:42.620 just kept getting stiff armed and came to understand speaking to the president was just not a possibility

00:51:47.900 on how all of his aides ran cover for him and acted more like they were the president on how uh they

00:51:55.620 had to bring in a voice coach that they got through jeffrey katzenberg um to help him try to sound

00:52:03.260 more robust on how in 2020 this is 2020 not 2024 jill biden was out there seeing more counties in

00:52:13.600 iowa far more than joe biden could or was able to see to the point where his aides has had to chastise

00:52:20.680 hers to say stop telling people that it doesn't make us look good on and on it goes and charles cw

00:52:28.520 cook raises raises a good point over at national review today saying you know where's the accountability

00:52:34.620 forget the press and morning joe best joe biden ever for kamala harris who peddled this lie just as

00:52:44.780 much as anyone and yet remains in an article every other day as the front runner for the 2028

00:52:53.740 presidential nomination on the dem side a really good point but even i think even a better one is

00:52:59.800 where is the question her right now because she in a hundred day period of her campaign refuted

00:53:07.160 almost every position that she'd held she had used to she used to demonstrate for deportation

00:53:13.960 she said she uh for against deportation she said in a hundred days uh i will have to deport people

00:53:20.880 and then she said she was for fracking and then she said she was tough prosecutor and she wanted

00:53:26.920 to prosecute people in a way that she had she was on record in california for defunding the police and

00:53:32.420 on and on so now she's the election's over and what kamala harris is it is it the old kamala kamala

00:53:40.120 harris is going to run on this her prior record for california governor or was it the new kamala harris

00:53:46.320 that tried to fool and fake her way into the presidency for a hundred days and no one is

00:53:52.000 asking her those questions not one reporter is saying kamala what do you believe about fracking

00:53:57.240 right now is it what you said a hundred days for a hundred days or is it what you said prior to that

00:54:03.160 and they could ask that along lines you know 10 or 12 topics and they won't do it the other thing

00:54:08.500 that's really disturbing is i can't believe the wall street journal didn't have people leaking this

00:54:13.200 story for the last four years and i know that they didn't want to influence the election but

00:54:18.500 they could have at least had a little bit more honest reporting now it's it's a pattern here

00:54:24.200 megan now that it's all over they're basically saying to the country we kept things from you

00:54:29.980 that we can now tell you and we're sorry that people called you all crazy conspiracy theorists when

00:54:36.820 you said that joe biden was demented or had problems but now we can kind of agree with you

00:54:43.660 same thing they did on the border new york times wrote an article not long ago wow this is the

00:54:48.460 greatest uh influx of illegal aliens we've ever seen this is the greatest number of foreign born

00:54:53.460 we've ever seen this is the greatest number of percentage of people who were in residence of

00:54:59.220 the country that were not born in the united states they knew that the whole time now they're

00:55:02.780 telling us same thing about kamala harris's campaign now all of a sudden we're told by the

00:55:08.340 obama advisors well we kind of lied about the momentum and we were kind of surprised about these

00:55:14.260 polls that we're trying they were kind of fake in our favor and we would we would kind of look at

00:55:18.700 each other and say wow new york times washington post says she's ahead they really believe we have

00:55:24.400 momentum we told everybody we did but not one of our internal polls show that she was ever winning

00:55:29.700 and and it's kind of you know it's it really makes long term it destroys your confidence if you had

00:55:36.920 any left in this mainstream media as well as kamala harris yeah um the wall street journal did do an

00:55:43.820 article on biden's mental acuity before the election before his implosion i should say um and so but this

00:55:51.060 one goes more in depth and what's interesting is now more and more people are talking right now people

00:55:54.720 on the inside of the administration are ready to to own up to the fact that he couldn't speak

00:55:59.980 with cabinet members and uh representative adam smith a democrat moderate democrat in washington he's been

00:56:06.580 on the show he's on the record here saying he sought to talk to biden to share his insights about

00:56:11.580 afghanistan and um couldn't get on the phone with him you know joe uh ron clane his then white house chief

00:56:19.560 staff was running interference with everybody just like trump they had to keep all negative news out

00:56:26.120 of biden's press briefings except during trump you saw that story everywhere trump's so thin-skinned he

00:56:32.920 can't read bad polls he can't read negative coverage which is all the coverage for trump

00:56:36.980 same for biden they reveal in this report that they had to pull news clips and they had to make sure

00:56:43.060 that it excluded negative stories and on speaking of the robert hurr investigation into joe biden's

00:56:49.660 retention of classified documents unlike trump from when he was not in a position to have them at his

00:56:56.740 home or anywhere right it was a senator you're supposed to review them in a skiff a secure room

00:57:01.420 you can't take them outside of the office which he did anyway um they said that they took these press

00:57:07.000 sessions with him and that they took three hours a day for a week but joe biden couldn't recall

00:57:13.000 the lines that his team had previously discussed with him and then it came out that in that her

00:57:18.400 interview he couldn't remember when his son beau died and robert hurr said i can't prosecute this guy

00:57:25.060 he's a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory that's what a jury will see and here's what kamala

00:57:31.040 harris said after that the comments that were made by that prosecutor gratuitous inaccurate and

00:57:40.860 inappropriate the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more

00:57:49.380 wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated that when it comes to the role and responsibility of

00:57:58.700 a prosecutor in a situation like that we should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity

00:58:06.600 than what we saw victor those lies cost the democrats the white house they cost them will

00:58:13.220 there be no accountability for her no no that was the most asinine thing she said of many asin things

00:58:20.120 she didn't even realize that had he not said that that was in the that was to the benefit of her and

00:58:25.460 joe biden had he not said and i thought he was almost inappropriate because the role of a prosecutor

00:58:31.500 is to present the evidence not necessarily to determine the the cognitive status of the person

00:58:37.760 who's being might be charged that's up for a jury and a judge to adjudicate i mean there's a lot of

00:58:43.280 people who would say to a prosecutor i'm old and i i can't remember and the irs to take one example is

00:58:48.780 not very sympathetic to that so what kamala harris was basically saying was i wish robert harer had not

00:58:55.620 given the excuse of not prosecuting him since apparently the evidence was there that he could

00:59:01.020 have presented it to a jury but he gave us the benefit of the doubt by saying joe was confused

00:59:06.240 but he's not confused ergo they should have prosecuted him for removing documents in a felonious

00:59:13.140 fashion to four different locations over 30 years and then having a ghostwriter where he disclosed

00:59:19.800 classified information to the ghostwriter who then destroyed the tapes of it under subpoena which is

00:59:28.000 a felony and then he said to robert her i only did that because i was afraid they'd be hacked and her

00:59:34.040 gave them the benefit of the doubt all the way in those decisions he said well i'm not going to

00:59:38.560 prosecute the speechwriter for destroying evidence and i'm not going to prosecute joe biden for disclosing

00:59:44.760 classified information and that was one of the things jack smith pointed out that allegedly trump had

00:59:49.780 done to uh an individual without a security clearance so harris didn't realize or she knew that

00:59:56.000 biden was the beneficiary of prosecutor uh discretion and yet here she is damning him for the very reason

01:00:04.840 that let joe biden get off the hook and she's don't kill here that speech she gave the other day was she

01:00:10.600 just gave a speech you may have recalled that where she she it was almost as if she was intoxicated she

01:00:16.660 couldn't form a sentence she laughed she was incoherent she tried to make fun of this obscure

01:00:22.580 language and pseudo philosophy that she espoused it was in it it was just the idea that she came close

01:00:29.600 to the presidency is really scary yeah it's genuinely terrifying well joe biden also came close to

01:00:37.040 retaining the presidency and serving a second term if he hadn't had that meltdown those senior moments

01:00:43.320 at that june debate who knows what would have happened um he gave an interview today this is uh

01:00:50.920 to the midas touch guy this is a which is a popular left-wing uh podcast and would you listen to him talk

01:00:58.760 about the goals he had coming into office and how he did sat 31 well when i ran i said i was going to try

01:01:07.680 to do three things resource some integrity to the office bring back a sense of uh focus on the needs

01:01:15.940 of ordinary people and uh try to unite the country and so that's what i've done i've tried to do

01:01:22.620 in four years we've accomplished a lot i mean

01:01:25.960 that's what he's done those were those were the three things he most

01:01:31.840 egregiously failed that he he didn't bring integrity he allowed his son he tried to fix his

01:01:38.320 son uh sentencing when with a sweetheart deal from the doj that would have gone through had not

01:01:45.480 courageous people you had on your show the irs whistleblowers stopped it and then he pardoned his

01:01:51.980 son after he said six times that he wouldn't he just pardoned 1500 miscreants he doesn't even know

01:01:58.080 what they did his staff probably did it for him and got it by them he did not unite the country

01:02:02.820 that's the one thing he he was at pains not to do the only time he was coherent in four years is when

01:02:09.760 he got angry and when he gave that phantom of the office semi-fascist ultra mega speech it was just

01:02:15.840 dripping with hatred and he did that even in the state of the union addresses he he went after the

01:02:21.520 people not just trump but the people who who voted for him and he did not and he did not help the

01:02:27.880 middle class when he got through after four years real wages were stagnant if not declining and more

01:02:34.780 importantly the cumulative inflation rate from the day he entered office to the day he left

01:02:39.620 on staple goods food gas rent insurance power was about 25 to 30 percent higher and he really made it

01:02:48.740 almost impossible for a middle class person to survive under him so it was a complete disaster and

01:02:54.680 don't listen to me these were what the polls showed that and retrospect the economy the economy the

01:03:00.380 economy showed that no voters had confidence in him he was pulling 40 percent approval rate on the

01:03:06.980 economy 40 on the border down the line and you know they all said that this was not a uh referendum or

01:03:15.140 on biden or it was not a blowout for trump or it was not a landslide victory it was in a way because

01:03:23.040 donald trump won the popular vote for the first time for republican in 20 years he won the electoral

01:03:28.540 college he now has you could say the republicans for the first time in my memory control the white

01:03:34.680 house the house the senate the supreme court and more importantly they had issues every one of them

01:03:41.140 uh foreign policy and deterrence crime energy we the transgender issue uh the border etc that the

01:03:52.500 majority of the people were behind so i don't think they get it yet i don't joe biden if anybody

01:03:58.740 adheres to what he just said is delusional i don't think anybody believes uh his approval rating right

01:04:05.600 now is 39 there's another poll having him at 34 he's going down day to day as i don't know if people

01:04:14.100 are forgetting you know that they think he's gone already but he's it's going down right now trump is

01:04:20.100 going up trump's approval rating right now his favorability rating is at 49 percent which is

01:04:28.220 amazing that that's we haven't seen those kinds of numbers for trump this time in 2016 it was at 42

01:04:37.880 percent and he had a 53 unfavorable right now it's 47 unfavorable so trump's unfavorables have shrunk

01:04:45.820 considerably his favorability has gone up considerably and he is between 10 and 15 points

01:04:53.620 higher than joe biden in favorability how how does hitler fascist uh dictator on day one do that victor

01:05:02.600 well he's popular for a variety of reasons you pointed out some one of them is he was defiant

01:05:09.880 and uh he went through things that would have destroyed any other person as we talked about but

01:05:15.500 also he's he's a very different 78 than almost anybody you see when he gave he gave those merit he

01:05:21.960 outworked everybody he gave those marifying talks he gave an hour-long press conference and even his

01:05:27.720 critics the other day said this is so needed and that's such in contrast that he'll talk about

01:05:33.560 anything to anybody anywhere anytime in a way that joe biden we've never seen him do it he had

01:05:39.820 30 cabinet meetings 19 one year total cabinet meetings was four times the number of joe biden so

01:05:47.820 he was a very vigorous uh undaunted indomitable figure in addition to that he's coming into office

01:05:56.520 after we saw four years it's almost as if fate is saying we had to take the country through this

01:06:02.440 nightmare and we had to almost destroy donald trump to show you what the the left will do if you turn over

01:06:09.300 the powers of government the senate and the house to them they will destroy the border they will

01:06:14.560 inflict on you and infuse on you these crazy ideas about gender reassignment surgeries and abortion

01:06:22.820 into the ninth month at the moment of delivery and withdrawing from afghanistan leaving 50 billion

01:06:29.460 dollars they're capable of that but you don't believe it well we'll show you and that's what we saw for

01:06:34.700 four years and donald trump had a record this time so he was saying to everybody look at the prior four

01:06:40.600 years and then look at what followed my four years and that that really helped him the other thing was

01:06:46.920 and i think this is on the first day is very important a lot of people criticize his appointments

01:06:54.220 because he's privileged loyalty but for every appointment the proper way to ascertain their

01:07:01.320 suitability is to ask what is the alternative last time when he was there so we have cash patel

01:07:07.460 and he's qualified by any measure but he's compared to what james comey who was there james comey and

01:07:15.260 and andrew mccabe his interim follow a successor is what they did everything and they power to destroy

01:07:21.880 their commander in chief andrew mccabe lied four times to a federal investigator james comey claimed

01:07:28.220 he couldn't remember 245 times into a house intelligence committee while under oath you say

01:07:34.380 look at cash patel and then you look at lloyd austin whatever i mean i have regard he's a colleague of

01:07:42.060 mine general mattis and who the people who followed him but they were not there to help further and

01:07:48.200 empower the trump mega agenda they were not and jeff session maybe he was but he was in case he's not

01:07:54.480 going to do what pam bondy and the p the people at the nih and others they were not there to mitigate

01:08:01.960 the economic social cultural effects of the lockdown and the whole controversies over the god complex of

01:08:11.000 anthony fauci they played right into that never mind francis carlens francis carlens as well so what i'm

01:08:17.240 getting at is he's coming into office with people that he can trust in the sense that when he says

01:08:23.900 something they will say to the president that's what i will do and i have some ideas how i can even make

01:08:30.540 it more quickly and more effectively uh in uh in power and the other people's attitude was his own

01:08:38.360 cabinet members to them for the most part if he said something to a john bolton or to a jeff sessions

01:08:44.980 or to christopher ray or any of these people they would have said ah that's donald trump

01:08:49.560 now he just has crazy ideas i'm mark milley i i've just psychoanalyzed him i am going to call up my

01:08:56.340 chinese counterpart and tell him that my commander in chief is crazy and not don't worry i won't obey

01:09:01.740 an order that's the type of people he had to deal with and he came into office without any support from

01:09:08.900 the republican party opposition from the democratic party and he was told these are the people who are the

01:09:13.900 professional class and you need them and he he followed that advice for two or three years

01:09:19.320 he's not going to do that now and he only came to that realization after all the damage that they did

01:09:25.660 to him and the ensuing four years where many of these people in his own party said he got what he

01:09:32.060 deserved and so i think he's coming in they came in they they forgot that he was the reason they had

01:09:37.640 those jobs that they had i was just those positions they had him to thank for them

01:09:42.140 that i that was that's such a good point when i saw all of the things that john bolton has said

01:09:47.600 recently and all the things he said during the the impeachment when he was kind of winking and

01:09:52.760 nodding and saying i have a memoir coming out i'm not going to say anything but wait till my memoir

01:09:57.000 comes out and then you think where were you john bolton you could never under any imaginable

01:10:03.740 circumstances return to government government even george bush could not appoint you to the u.n

01:10:09.320 ambassadorship unless he had a recess appointment and what did you do when donald trump brought you

01:10:15.040 into a position where you didn't have to be confirmed by the national security advisor

01:10:19.340 you immediately started leaking and telling people that he was an idiot and you had ways to circumvent

01:10:25.660 and you never thanked them and to this day you've you've libeled almost every one of his

01:10:31.660 appointees and you want us to believe that uh comey mccabe ray mattis uh all of these people that

01:10:44.320 had a chance yourself were wonderful public servants and efficient and really did a great job

01:10:50.180 and that's it's not true and people know it and these people are very bitter because

01:10:55.540 not only did they fail to destroy donald trump but they're very venom uh directed at him has helped

01:11:02.680 fuel his comeback because they don't have any idea how disliked they are by the american public and

01:11:08.500 you saw you know donald trump reached out to rfk and to tulsi gabbard and to elon monk these people

01:11:15.440 were like whatever you thought about them they were like when they tried to emulate that and brought in

01:11:21.060 but especially people like liz cheney she was dour she was mean-spirited she had tried to destroy

01:11:28.660 donald trump and the idea that you were going to parade around with her and that was going to get

01:11:32.640 you republican or any support it was just ludicrous right the people who cheney has no constituency

01:11:38.940 no constituency she's bitter she's angry and donald trump i mean she voted 93 percent with him the

01:11:47.200 first term so he had a unique ability to i know and create animosity but these people got so obsessed

01:11:54.620 with him that uh they really revealed who they are the only existential question we have is are they

01:12:01.400 where they are that they always want to be there or was it only their hatred of trump that i don't know

01:12:07.200 deluded them or turned them into crazy people maybe i don't know what the never trump or the lincoln

01:12:12.020 project the john bolton bill chris of where they are now but they're nowhere and i don't know whether

01:12:18.460 that's nowhere is what the political wilderness is where they want to be or whether they were just

01:12:23.320 crushed by donald trump but they're pathetic figures now the tds just completely blinded them they could

01:12:29.400 never get their eyes clear again and that's why all their predictions were wrong their their opinions

01:12:33.600 were wrong they've completely discredited themselves um back on team biden i did want to play you this

01:12:40.060 just on the subject of his infirmity because i know most of the media want to just move on forget

01:12:44.840 it never mind that massive fraud we perpetrated on america but it is interesting to go back to pod

01:12:50.460 save america to hear those guys those are obama guys now talking about it and there there's um one

01:12:57.580 guy favreau another guy love it and they're talking about how biden is gone like where is he he is the

01:13:04.420 incredibly incredible shrinking president right now i mean i'm fine with it because i definitely don't want to

01:13:09.160 see her elevated i i really didn't think he should go but now we're so close to the end

01:13:13.320 just that's fine as long as he stays alive through january 20th i'm okay with it but it really does

01:13:19.760 feel more like trump is president a point they were making as well listen to sat 18 it was more or less

01:13:25.900 a standard presidential policy announcement the main difference being trump isn't president yet uh a fact

01:13:33.260 that's getting easier and easier to forget as joe biden seems to be disappearing from the public stage

01:13:37.800 as his term comes to an end has joe biden stepped out of the spotlight or has the spotlight just

01:13:42.260 moved away from joe biden joe biden believes in tradition and institutions and we should only

01:13:46.680 have one president at a time and i think it's a surprising choice to allow it to be donald trump

01:13:50.200 but if that's what his plan is i think it's about his long-term respect for our kind of our basic

01:13:55.300 more is remember during the obama transition how many times bragg obama said the words while he was

01:14:00.280 announcing cabinet appointees and staff which was the only time he really went out

01:14:04.480 one president at a time one president at a time that was like the whole it was the whole theme

01:14:09.140 just one more for you oh you like that i'd like to correct both of them and remind you that barack

01:14:17.380 obama said when asked what he would like a third term he said i'd only like a third term if the person

01:14:23.640 that was president had an earpiece and i could phone in all my directives to him and if rumors are

01:14:30.200 correct barack obama helped engineer the ascendance of joe biden after he'd lost the first three

01:14:36.340 caucuses and primaries and the obama and his coterie looked around and they said elizabeth

01:14:43.100 warren pete buttajig bernie sanders are not viable candidates are too far left this guy as crazy as he is

01:14:50.220 and don't ever underestimate the ability as obama said for joe biden to f it up we will use him as a

01:14:58.160 facade and we will have a hard left agenda and they will go for it because jill and he always

01:15:03.460 want to be in the spotlight and that's what we've suffered through for four years and the idea that

01:15:08.580 obama thought there was one president in time i would suggest both of them if they're worried about

01:15:14.040 having only one president why don't they invoke the logan act and the logan act says that no private

01:15:19.380 citizen can conduct uh foreign policy why there's a government uh in power why don't they do what they

01:15:26.180 did to michael flynn he made a phone call supposedly with the russians and they were ready to put him

01:15:31.140 in jail not just for being disingenuous about it but for the very fact he talked to somebody before

01:15:37.120 he was officially national security advised donald trump in their own view has violated the logan act

01:15:42.920 but the reason they're not talking they don't mention the logan act one moment is if they did they

01:15:47.680 would be shouted down by about 150 million americans now and they know that right exactly we need

01:15:53.920 somebody yes and they the reason that they're not saying the logan act is they're basically saying

01:16:00.140 to themselves kind of i can't take it anymore we've lied for four years about this guy we always knew

01:16:06.740 he was not up to the job we always knew the border was a disaster we we understand why people now don't

01:16:13.020 like it we understand that afghanistan a whole thing was a mess just take it away let us regroup and let

01:16:20.040 this guy come in trump we're not going to fight it anymore we're not going to call him all these

01:16:24.260 names we're not going to riot on inauguration madonna's not going to come out there and say

01:16:28.960 she wants to blow up the white house in four weeks we're not going to do that because we've had our

01:16:34.360 chance and we look at ourselves and we were absolutely incompetent i think that's the subject not

01:16:40.920 that they won't be vicious and attack trump within another three or four weeks but right now

01:16:45.660 they should be if they were typical opposition you know pundits they would be saying we've got a

01:16:52.720 regroup joe biden's got to get out there every day we he's got to end with a flourish they don't even

01:16:59.760 want they don't even make that case they just well he's just he's not there and he's not there for what

01:17:05.160 reason they don't tell us that he's been declining geometrically every day every day is much not just

01:17:11.380 worse than the day before but twice as bad and he can he can't really function anymore it's very sad

01:17:16.820 and they know that if he was out there the last 30 days and was going to the notre dame cathedral

01:17:22.080 and on this historic event he would walk the different a different way or he would mispronounce

01:17:27.660 somebody's name or he forget where he was or somebody would have to shuffle him around and they

01:17:32.960 understand that and and they know that every time jill jill biden shows up like she did on that

01:17:39.200 occasion by herself or every time somebody like kamala harris says it is a fiddle they know that

01:17:44.540 that only accentuates the idea that he is not able to be president and if i was a i mean just

01:17:51.460 for so for i don't know divine justice they're lucky that joe biden like donald trump a week before

01:17:59.640 donald trump left office they impeached him a second time historically so and then they tried and

01:18:04.640 they should think about impeaching joe biden for i don't know not serving his oath of office

01:18:11.300 because he's not there he's just gone and he's lucky he was never impeached forget about the

01:18:17.540 pardons and all of the biden corruption but he got off pretty scot-free and uh and i don't think

01:18:24.140 the pardon by the way or ended anyway i think the biden family will be the beneficiary of a class

01:18:29.660 party as well um meanwhile joe biden seems to be actively doing his best to undermine the

01:18:39.760 the trump agenda that was voted for by our democratic republic you know democracy um they wanted

01:18:50.280 among other things the wall which trump of course ran on and mentioned many times he's selling off the

01:18:55.820 border part the border wall what's left of it for parts right now um elon and trump have been saying

01:19:02.340 one of the things that they want to do is get federal workers back into the office they're saying

01:19:06.840 either that or we should sell all these federal buildings because they're costing us billions of

01:19:10.720 dollars a year and nobody's working these federal government employees have cut these deals where they

01:19:16.240 get to work from home like two like three four sometimes five days a week and have all sorts of ways of

01:19:24.180 making it look like they're on their computer when they're not really on their computer and absolutely

01:19:27.300 no accountability for whether they're actually working for the two and three hundred thousand

01:19:30.660 dollars a year that some of them are getting and now he's also um so he signed this long-term

01:19:36.300 biden deal with social security workers so that they can continue working from home through 2029

01:19:42.140 and he's hiring all these dei uh hires for roles this is reported by the daily wire the other day

01:19:49.500 for roles uh to to head up you know dei investigations and agencies and and so on that

01:19:56.060 trump's undoubtedly not even going to pursue now he can undo that last one a little bit more easily

01:20:02.060 than he can undo the first two but trump was saying on the wall parts this is going to cost us hundreds

01:20:07.060 of millions of dollars why we own them you know biden's team says oh they're worthless well why don't

01:20:12.040 you let trump be the judge of that if they are he'll sell them off don't start selling off the border wall

01:20:16.180 like you've been doing for the past four years they're doing what they can to sabotage his presidency

01:20:21.880 yeah maybe uh kamala harris remember she said finally in the campaign that she was for the wall

01:20:28.600 maybe she'll intervene as vice president and say wait a minute yeah you're you're sure sure you hear

01:20:35.200 that was one of my new positions let's save the wall as i've campaigned on uh i think if we boil down

01:20:41.480 what you said megan you could kind of summarize it but joe biden hates donald trump more than he

01:20:48.860 respects or likes the american people he knows that all the american people uh wanted to change whether

01:20:55.580 they voted for trump or not even the people who voted for him i think uh polls on the particular issues

01:21:03.460 don't agree with him so it he he understands that he's he's promoting positions that have no popular

01:21:11.740 support and he's doing so over the wishes of the american people who just voiced them on election day

01:21:17.440 and he's doing them to hurt the ability of donald trump to enact changes which most people want and he's

01:21:24.560 he's a very bitter person you know there's i know this sounds kind of cruel but if you take away the

01:21:31.880 cognitive problems of joe biden and you look at his career going back as a senator whether he was a

01:21:38.020 plagiarist or whether his law school problems as a student or how he demagogued clarence thomas or how

01:21:45.240 he kind of sucked up to southern segregationists or the things he said about race first uh black

01:21:53.700 candidate was articulate in the case of obama or you ain't black or you're a terrorist or he called two of

01:21:59.800 african american uh aze hey boy the cold corn pop he's not a nice person he never was he was a very

01:22:08.020 vicious politician he he demagogued and really destroyed the truck driver who was not culpable

01:22:13.820 and slandered him for years saying that he was drunk and he was in that tragic accident with his

01:22:19.860 first wife so all this cognitive problems that he's been experiencing and have been accelerating

01:22:27.200 have accentuated all of those traits so you know i never bought into he's good old joe biden from

01:22:34.020 scranton he's a nice old guy he's a uniter he wants to bring us i can't remember any case in which he

01:22:39.960 tried to unite people together he never did and he always demagogued issues he was never ecumenical

01:22:46.480 he always had a not to mention what they did he and his wife to little navy biden putting up the

01:22:52.800 stockings of all the other grandchildren but not hers and having nothing to do with her not even

01:22:58.200 acknowledging her existence um okay wait what was what was he doing as vice president when hunter was

01:23:05.220 referring to him as mr 10 and the big guy and paying his power cashing the checks yeah uh loan

01:23:12.860 repayment check all of that stuff it was and then he has the gall to say that he brought integrity

01:23:18.120 back to the white one right and and unity he did great job heck of a job brownie all right stand by

01:23:24.260 because there is an update in the george stephanopoulos debacle over at abc news we discussed this at

01:23:31.560 length the other day on what were the producers saying in his ear you know and i talked about how my

01:23:36.420 producers when i say something wrong they save me often they'll say no it was this and and sometimes i

01:23:42.260 correct myself sometimes they correct me but the point is we do our best to bring you guys correct

01:23:47.020 information and one of the questions we asked was when he was doing that disaster segment that just

01:23:51.580 cost abc news 16 million dollars were his producers saying george not rape no trump wasn't found liable

01:23:59.380 for rape were they trying to help him you know avoid this defamation soup suit or were they as dumb

01:24:06.080 and reckless as he was well it appears we have the answer that's next i'm megan kelly host of the

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01:25:10.980 the news breaking this morning in the new york post that according to them george stefanopoulos

01:25:22.160 was warned by his executive producer not to use the word rape in describing what a jury had found

01:25:31.440 trump civilly liable for that his producer had said to him it it was not rape don't call it rape

01:25:38.660 and it appears he ignored that advice now here's what's i mean this is very interesting to me it just

01:25:45.520 shows the depths of hatred like fanny willis that george stefanopoulos has for trump their

01:25:53.040 their flagship anchor i mean he and david muir whom we saw all saw his performance at the debate

01:25:58.920 are the two main guys over there and so here's what the post reports in an exclusive um okay

01:26:05.580 stefanopoulos was repeatedly told by his executive producer not to use the word rape before going on air

01:26:13.080 but the abc news anchor ignored the warning this week's producer because he said this on his sunday

01:26:19.520 show said don't use the word rape that's in quotes before the segment started a network source told the

01:26:26.560 post the ep said it quote so many times a second source at the show listen to this confirmed via a text

01:26:36.280 message viewed by the post that stefanopoulos was warned not to say rape so this post has seen some

01:26:45.100 sort of text message in which a second source somehow confirms that george was told not to say rape could

01:26:52.960 it be they saw a text message to george you know confirming it or could they could the ep somebody wrote

01:26:59.480 down understanding this was problematic that they had made a record they told george not to do this

01:27:06.720 he did it and now you've got an abc spokesperson saying to cnn oh that's not true it's absolutely

01:27:13.980 not true that he was warned well these spokespeople lie through their teeth all the time you can't believe

01:27:20.060 one word any of them say at fox at nbc and at abc trust me and not to mention cnn but it's very

01:27:29.620 interesting to me that they're saying they've got it confirmed by two separate sources inside abc that

01:27:34.060 he was told and honestly victor if that's true i don't want to hear one more word from anybody about

01:27:39.760 why did abc news settle you know people think they had a shot at winning first of all they didn't

01:27:45.720 because it's very clear he wasn't found civilly liable for rape but second of all you've got the

01:27:50.780 ep saying i told him not to do it and he insisted on doing it 10 times in one segment what do you make

01:27:57.960 of it well they settled because they probably had internal they all anytime these big corporations

01:28:04.880 settle like that in a controversial case they do it because they don't want their internal communications

01:28:10.160 you know subpoenaed and there was probably back and forth text emails uh that were incriminating both

01:28:16.980 to uh stephanopoulos and abc but the question is i have is if you really believe that you had warned

01:28:24.020 him that and that you had textual documentation of that and you might even have more under uh upon

01:28:30.380 discoveries why didn't you just fire him and say you know what we're not responsible and the answer is

01:28:36.840 they just gave him a 20 million dollar multi-year contract so what they're basically saying we

01:28:41.960 would rather have this pathological liar we have a representative because we don't have anybody else

01:28:47.200 in the morning and he gets us ratings so we're willing to pay even though we pay him 20 million dollars

01:28:52.600 we'll pay the 15 million it's small cash for disney corporation and we don't really we don't really

01:28:58.880 care that he goes on there and says it he probably will do it again and we will pay as long as it's not

01:29:03.920 too much and i think that's their scent the cynical attitude but that's really true because look at look

01:29:09.680 at the david muir and lindsey davis suffered absolutely no consequences as a result of that

01:29:14.500 disastrous debate martha raddatz of abc is the one who was like oh the venezuelan gangs have only

01:29:21.380 invaded a couple of apartment buildings no problem she's fine with them this is a bob eiger problem

01:29:27.780 obviously the man who's transing disney right now there's also another strain i think it's really

01:29:34.820 important is that they're angry about him not for the sentiment they agree with the cinema they deep

01:29:43.020 down decide they don't care whether the jury or the judge or whatever the actual terminology was that

01:29:48.700 he was they hate donald trump so they're not saying to george stephanopoulos how dare you accuse

01:29:54.400 somebody falsely of raping when after a lengthy trial and civil suit it was showed that he didn't

01:30:00.700 they don't care about that because they probably would do the same thing privately what they're

01:30:05.360 the only animus they have is we kind of warned you that there was legal exposure uh in your efforts to

01:30:12.860 destroy this guy that we also like you to we would like you to destroy but we just disagreed with your

01:30:18.460 tactics so we're going to kind of slap you on the hand and be more discreet george but don't change

01:30:23.840 your attitude about trump because that's coming from the top we despise him and we want you we

01:30:29.480 want you people whether you're moderating debates or whether you're presenting the news we want you

01:30:35.100 to be prejudicial that's who are that what our brand do and then the other thing is we'll just throw

01:30:39.920 money at this problem yeah when you look at the eugene carroll case that was of all the five criminal i

01:30:46.460 think and civil suits was the most egregious because she came she had to get a special sympathetic uh new

01:30:54.500 york legislature to pass a law that suspended for one year the statute of limitations on supposed sexual

01:31:02.040 assault then she refiled it and then when she refiled it she was asked what year did it take place she

01:31:08.260 didn't know the year then she tried to adjudicate the year by saying i had this designer dress they then

01:31:14.720 people came out and said that dress was not in existence when you cited that then she gave these

01:31:20.260 weird details and by the way she had said in text messages that donald trump and the apprentice that

01:31:27.220 that was a celebrity that she liked but she gave details that she said she couldn't remember but they

01:31:33.080 were they were eerily very similar to a law and order episode in which one of the people in that episode

01:31:39.800 and i watched it is in the same department store and then invites a celebrity into the dressing room

01:31:45.100 and he said she said transpire and then she's in a courtroom up against the celebrity and i'm not

01:31:51.680 suggesting that she just made it all up but there's she might have had embroidered a lot of those details

01:31:57.380 so and then the judge himself and i think this is one of the reasons that uh stephanopoulos was

01:32:03.400 emboldened about the case as you remember he said he mentioned the word rape once and somebody

01:32:08.760 corrected him and they said no it's a matter of sexual assault and he said well they're kind of

01:32:13.540 similar and no and i that's one reason i think that you know donald trump i don't know what the

01:32:19.400 was the ruling 73 million dollars for this you know this very bogus civil school it was over 80

01:32:27.340 it was over yeah when it was no but it was very clear and that that was based on his defamation

01:32:32.780 because he continued to say no she's a nutcase um that it was five million for the alleged sexual

01:32:39.420 assault but here's what's crazy like it's it's crystal clear that the jury said no on rape they

01:32:49.860 said no they said yes on sexual abuse and yet here's what you get there here's joy reed uh you know

01:32:57.700 the albert einstein of msnbc weighing in with her legal opinion sought 23 for a man who has tried

01:33:05.860 to claim that he is not interested in retribution donald trump sure has an odd way of showing it

01:33:10.460 just this week he settled a defamation suit against abc news for 15 million dollars based

01:33:16.900 on anchor george stephanopoulos using imprecise language to describe what a jury found that donald trump

01:33:23.280 actually did to ej and carol namely sexual abuse and defamation

01:33:29.580 imprecise if she doesn't point out he said 10 times that a jury found him civilly liable for rape

01:33:41.340 for rape for rape and i'm looking at the jury form right here question number one did ms carroll prove

01:33:50.720 by a preponderance of the evidence that mr trump raped ms carroll no question two that mr trump

01:33:58.400 sexually abused ms carroll yes it's right there black and white it is not imprecise it is what's

01:34:07.920 the word oh yeah wrong and actually defamatory when it's repeated another nine times on top of that

01:34:17.340 with the executive the producer of the show saying george stop that it's wrong especially

01:34:24.920 when you and i think the statute requires knowing intent when hit the intent when you look at that

01:34:31.260 tape was to hurt donald trump and he knowingly as you said he knowingly lied but he did so with the

01:34:37.960 intent not just it wasn't that he was just sloppy and he kept repeating the men that he didn't really

01:34:43.800 think about he did it deliberately precisely emphatically for the purpose of uh defaming

01:34:50.380 donald trump and he did it because he felt that the people who hired him would maybe disagree with

01:34:56.500 as i said with the language but the overall gist of what he was saying they agreed with and when he

01:35:02.380 looked at the political landscape in which he and he inhabits he understood that it would be acceptable

01:35:07.660 if not commendable that type of venom and that that's what happened with the the whole media and

01:35:15.520 again getting back i i think the shorenstein center said at one point 95 percent 90 percent of all the

01:35:22.460 media coverage was anti-trump and yet he survived it and then that was another thing that was really

01:35:27.540 wonderful about the uh election that all the traditional barometers of what supposedly makes a

01:35:34.420 candidate win or lose you know overwhelming media positive coverage two and a half times more packet

01:35:41.160 and campaign money all the proper celebrity endorsement they meant nothing nothing trump got free publicity

01:35:49.080 and the millions of dollars with his stunts he brilliantly got people like joe rogan and dana white when

01:35:55.340 he walked into the medicine square garden with that menagerie of dana white and kid rock and joe rogan

01:36:02.840 and rfk and hulk hogan and speaker johnson that was the most eclectic group of people and from all different

01:36:09.860 classes and all different audiences and that was worth 10 times more uh publicity than a neon sign in las

01:36:17.280 vegas they paid for or you know an endorsement from a multi-billionaire like oprah or obama jetting in from

01:36:25.080 one of his four mansions and talking down to people and that was what i think one of the real lessons of

01:36:30.060 the campaign was what do you think is going to happen with hegseth rfkj and tulsi

01:36:38.980 i think they're going to get confirmed because i think donald trump is going to tell the senators

01:36:46.160 the ones that will vote or that he's worried about he's going to say it's going to be politically

01:36:52.940 unsustainable for you to vote against these people when you voted for mallorcas and you voted for

01:37:00.860 austin so you're going to go back to your constituency and you're going to go back to me and you're going

01:37:05.100 to say that you voted for the worst homeland security person in history that destroyed the border

01:37:10.560 and you considered him fit but you don't consider a decorated uh veteran in a combat zone pete hegseth

01:37:18.720 author of four books you don't consider him qualified so i think they're going to play hardball

01:37:23.860 i think hegseth and cash patel will get confirmed the problem that rfk will have with tulsi gabbard is

01:37:31.660 i don't think it's going to come from the right so much it's going to come uh from the democrats are

01:37:38.140 going to really try to gin up popular support because they view them as apostates that were turncoats

01:37:44.380 and that they should they were once liberal people and now they've joined the detestable

01:37:49.040 donald trump and so they're really going to put they're going to put most of their effort and money

01:37:54.220 uh smearing them and they already have they've called her a russian asset almost as if she's

01:37:59.740 traitorous and i do think they're going to get confirmed because if rfk can stay away from that

01:38:05.900 one kryptonite issue of childhood measles polio vaccinations and just concentrate on the issues

01:38:12.880 that pull positively nutritious food uh additives dyes in the food uh questions about the mrna

01:38:22.900 vaccination things like that if they steer him and say to him these are off limits we appointed you

01:38:29.740 but you're not going to question whether people should have the polio or smallpox vaccination things

01:38:35.160 like that i think you'll be you know it's good you know it's good victor i mean we talked about this

01:38:39.060 on the show the other day the um even trump is saying i'm not into banning i'm not talking about

01:38:44.140 banning vaccines but i do think we should look into them that's all and then that story about the polio

01:38:48.480 vaccine was of course misrepresented his lawyer pushed to question one strain i think there are

01:38:56.140 eight total of the polio vaccines just just one that's it he he didn't even the lawyer for rfkj

01:39:03.120 never pushed to ban the polio vaccine and neither did rfkj and trump is already on record saying we're

01:39:08.900 not banning the polio vaccine like you know but you're right he his his belly is exposed on the

01:39:14.380 vaccines because that really i think he can handle it but he all those other issues he's talked about

01:39:20.160 obesity nutrition food the people vote are overwhelmingly in favor of that and he'll be a

01:39:26.900 very popular he'll be a populist hero if he just sticks to those and takes on big pharma

01:39:33.620 and big ag and and totally food and and tulsi gabbard well i hope has one you're right now i gotta

01:39:40.720 i gotta run because we're gonna we're gonna get cut off by the computer and i don't want to be too

01:39:43.760 unceremonious to you my friend but thank you thanks so much for being here and victor merry christmas

01:39:47.840 merry christmas major lots of love thanks for everything this year tomorrow before we go the

01:39:53.280 2b steve bannon and doug brunt to see you then thanks for listening to the megan kelly show

01:40:00.040 no bs no agenda and no fear

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