Fani Willis Trump Case Done, COVID Bombshell, and Attacker Caught, with Chamath Palihapitiya, Dave Aronberg, Phil Holloway, and NYU Students ｜ Ep. 1205
A family friend was sexually assaulted in New York City, and social media and the power of social media helped bring attention to it. Plus, a special episode of The Megyn kelly show featuring special guest Chamath Palihapitiya.
00:01:34.880Plus a Kelly's court on Luigi Mangione January 6th and those pipe bombs and more.
00:01:40.000But we begin today with some political news.
00:01:42.500The Republican, who was running for the seat in Tennessee, being vacated by a Republican, did manage to pull it out in the special election yesterday in Tennessee.
00:01:55.300It was closer than the Republicans would have liked.
00:01:58.020Last count I saw in the New York Times was around nine points between the GOP candidate and the weird Democrat who cried outside of the governor's office.
00:02:07.300Because it should have been 22 points.
00:02:10.380That's what Trump won that district by.
00:02:33.820We'll see how that turns out for you in November.
00:02:35.480Or you could actually get honest about why you're having these problems and change some things and then possibly win the midterm elections.
00:02:44.420It's not a foregone conclusion that you're going to lose.
00:03:46.680Like, if you actually got the audience with Trump and he said, what should I do to make sure it's not a bloodbath for Republicans in November, what would you tell him?
00:03:57.660I think the plan is actually pretty straightforward to diagnose, but it's complicated to fix.
00:04:05.660So just to set some context, when I was at the White House, I think it was two or three weeks ago, I saw some data that had been vetted and that was about to be shared with the president.
00:04:17.820Now I think it's been widely shared, which is that under Joe Biden, I think that the average American family lost about $3,000 of purchasing power.
00:04:30.320And the reason they lost that was in large part because of inflation and runaway costs and, you know, the cost of practical, useful things that they need for their life, electricity, health care, and child care.
00:04:46.760So the Trump administration starts from a $3,000 hole.
00:04:51.540Now, what they've been able to do in 11 months is that they've earned back $1,000, which is a third of where they are.
00:04:59.240I think the problem, though, is that they will need to find the other $2,000, and it's not their fault because, again, they inherit where they started from.
00:05:12.520But I think the perception that people have is just that negative $2,000.
00:05:17.260So if I had to diagnose and answer, I think it's about breaking down the population that's voting into three cohorts.
00:05:25.140Cohort number one are people that are mostly retired.
00:05:29.920I think that their priority is going to be mostly around health care.
00:05:34.980Then there's cohort number two, which are middle-aged, middle-income families.
00:05:40.660I think their huge sensitivity is general cost of living.
00:05:45.700And then I think what people like Mamdani uncovered, which I think the Republicans should embrace, is for young people, the huge hot-button question is around student loans and debt load and on-ramping into the United States economy with a decent starting job and salary.
00:06:05.780So I think you have to have programs that touch each of these three areas, and that is probably the path forward where you can earn back the $2,000, show that you've basically closed this hole that Biden created, and then ideally you get out of that hole so that you're now gross net positive, which would be a huge economic win for them.
00:06:26.100Now, of those voting blocks, the one that is most likely to actually show up on Election Day is the older group, if history's any—excuse me, I've got my Ludens, I've got all my tool search month, but I'm coming off a rough few days.
00:06:58.860I mean, truly, like, if you're just talking, like, brass tacks, November's coming, we've got to get people motivated to vote Republican or we're going to lose the House, we're going to have nonstop impeachments and investigations, the Trump agenda will be stymied.
00:07:16.680These are all kind of, like, hypotheticals, but I think the hypotheticals are kind of interesting because it starts to make the point you're making.
00:07:22.460So I think if you look at older folks, the biggest cost that they bear is the uncertainty and the actual lived cost of medical expenses as they get older.
00:07:35.460Because most of them, you know, for better or for worse, have structural housing.
00:07:41.180You know, they've either owned a home or have been renting something for a long enough period of time where that issue is less of an issue for them, per se.
00:07:48.080You know, we all talk about how boomers sort of were buying homes in the 80s and 70s and early 90s, and everybody else now is sort of on the sidelines frozen out.
00:07:57.400So if it's around medical care, we heard yesterday in the cabinet meeting, Bobby Kennedy say something really interesting, which is starting in 2026, you will not allow for certain procedures to have to go through prior auth, which is this crazy scheme that the insurance companies use to essentially slow down approvals.
00:08:19.440They do that so that they can make more money in the short term before they have to pay out claims.
00:08:25.700But the lived experience for older Americans is when you need a procedure, you're kind of waiting around, hand-wringing, wondering why the insurance you're paying into isn't approving a legitimate medical procedure.
00:08:37.920So if you look at that narrow issue and expand the scope, the interesting thing would be to figure out how can we make the healthcare rails in America more frictionless?
00:08:50.360How do you make prior auth much easier to do across a wide variety of procedures, but also maybe we should look at medications?
00:09:00.380How do we think about out-of-pocket costs in Medicare and Medicaid?
00:09:04.540Could those be subsidized in some way with sources of funds that are neutral to the government, meaning they don't come out of the general fund?
00:09:13.500There are some very clever financial things that one can do there that rely heavily on private corporations and the money that they're already making.
00:09:25.200How do you specifically narrowly lower healthcare costs for older voters?
00:09:29.820But that consolidates the block of people, as you said, that are going to come no matter what.
00:09:34.540I think if you're going to go after homes and middle-aged folks, you have to look at utility costs, food costs, and electricity costs, and you have to find a way.
00:09:44.240And there are, by the way, very clever things that one can do, again, that don't require the general fund or treasury.
00:09:50.700So one example of this is that if you had a large group of corporations come together, they can directly use the big, beautiful bill language around things like batteries and smart thermometers.
00:10:07.640And you can go and implement these things into a home, help reduce the cost of electricity, in some cases upwards of 50% or 60%, and what you get is actually a rebate on the taxes you would otherwise pay.
00:10:20.760That, at scale, I think, has a huge impact on CPI and could activate the 35 to 55-year-old voter who's in a household family of four type thing.
00:10:37.420This younger cohort was activated by these programs that are, you know, frankly, they're regressive, but they're masked as, like, equity.
00:10:48.720And I think the most important thing that they care about is what is the long-term solution for all of the student debt that they're signing up for because the jobs that they get afterwards make absolutely no sense and do not generate anywhere near the revenue relative to the cost that they undertake.
00:11:08.380We're not doing anything about college tuition, nothing.
00:11:13.180We just keep increasing the amount that they can borrow, so then they do borrow that because the universities increase their tuition immediately, accordingly.
00:11:23.000And the students are left with this enormous bill that cannot be paid off any sooner than 30 years with jobs that don't justify that sort of investment.
00:11:34.600And look, the difference—look, think about a house, right?
00:11:37.440You take on a multi-hundred-thousand-dollar mortgage in a house, most people don't also pay off their mortgages.
00:11:45.580What they're able to do is rise and participate in the appreciation of the home and then close the mortgage out when they sell the home, right?
00:11:54.340The overwhelming majority of people get the capital appreciation of this huge loan that is a liability on their balance sheet.
00:12:02.780But if you look at student debt, those loans are of the same order of magnitude as a home mortgage, but they don't appreciate in value in any way.
00:12:12.740They don't accrue value to you in any way.
00:12:16.020And they're an albatross that you can't even discharge in a bankruptcy.
00:12:20.160So I think the thing that we have to seriously consider now is, at a minimum, do we stop federally underwriting all loans in an equal way?
00:12:31.880It doesn't make any logical sense that somebody chasing an eight-year PhD in art history has the same economic opportunities as somebody chasing a four-year degree in biochemistry.
00:12:45.660The latter has a lot more practical applications, yet when we, the United States people, underwrite that loan so that it can be sold into Wall Street, we view them the same.
00:12:57.920So then what happens is Harvard is just as incentivized as to push that person into a, you know, they go to that person and say,
00:13:04.360Megan, I think you should get an undergrad in biochemistry.
00:13:06.400You're like, no, I really like art history.
00:13:07.860They're like, well, what about this PhD?
00:13:12.100You have to be able to differentiate these things and understand the downstream economic value.
00:13:16.380And if you want to study art history, maybe the right thing for most people is to learn by yourself or in a community college class while you are working.
00:13:26.400Because you appreciate that underwriting a $300,000 degree for that thing doesn't make any sense economically.
00:13:33.860And we don't have that conversation in the United States, but I think we have to.
00:14:48.000And, you know, you think about how easy it is to infect your family because, like, every doorknob you touch in your home, the refrigerator, the remote control, you're just like this Petri dish.
00:14:58.420Although I will tell you, Chamath, Doug and I, we had a very funny exchange this morning.
00:15:01.700I don't know if you're like this, but whenever I get sick, I'm sitting here like a walking ball of germs.
00:16:40.740The best example of where there's rationality when the private market prices something versus the public market is in mortgages.
00:16:52.680So when you buy a home and you want to get either the insurance or the mortgage itself, one of the things that we've been told about for years is there's this threat of climate change.
00:17:07.600And climate change could meaningfully impact sea levels.
00:17:27.740And the reason is it's the bank's money that's being used to buy a home.
00:17:31.220And what's so interesting about that is that forget all of the rhetoric, all of the emotional sturm and drang around climate change.
00:17:39.740If you actually just looked at how the banks priced risk over these last 20 years, what the financial direction would tell you was that climate change was something that could theoretically be important but not much of a thing.
00:17:55.420And that was the actual financial underwriting.
00:17:58.060This is just an example to show you that when you have these important philosophical issues of society, sometimes the clarity and the truth can be found through unemotional financial underwriting.
00:18:14.540But if you gave these educational degrees into the hands of institutions that would have to pay for it, you would very quickly see them figure out what the ability for these kids would be to pay it and also what the ability for these kids would be to enjoy a good life and their version of the American dream.
00:18:35.360You would get that answer within a year.
00:19:11.580Yeah, she was on with, actually, she was on with Allie Beth Stuckey, but here she is, Nicole Shanahan, SOT13.
00:19:16.400What I don't think many of the tech mafia wives realize is that they were used to set the groundwork for what was called like the reset, what is called generally as like the reset.
00:19:31.040The tech wife mafias, I believe, were kind of being conscripted in many ways, and their money especially was being conscripted in to set the groundwork for the Great Reset.
00:19:43.560Specifically through a network of non-NGO advisors, relationship with Hollywood, relationship with Davos, and their own companies, completely blind to everything else that's going on,
00:20:07.640and how their groundwork is being used to then enable these other policies, these Great Reset policies.
00:20:18.800And these women find their meaning through their philanthropic work.
00:20:22.940That was my self-worth, was my philanthropic work, and I really believed in it.
00:20:27.040I really believed that I was giving Black communities a chance to, like, rise up out of oppression.
00:20:34.780I really believed that I was helping Indigenous communities rise up out of oppression.
00:20:39.280The problems of the community have gotten worse.
00:20:41.540Crime in the community has gotten worse.
00:20:43.780Mental health in the Native community, the Indigenous community, has gotten worse.
00:21:06.660And yes, everything she said is right, Chamath.
00:21:08.860I can kind of see where she's coming from.
00:21:15.360I think that the thing with Silicon Valley that's so incredible is you can believe in yourself, and you can start something.
00:21:25.220And in any other place, what would otherwise take you 50 years, you can accomplish in five.
00:21:32.100Now, that's an incredible thing in terms of what you can make for society, but it can be a very destabilizing thing because along with making great things, you can be rewarded in five years in a way and at a scale that would have otherwise taken 50 or 75 as well.
00:21:52.060That second part is very destabilizing.
00:21:54.820And I think that there are those folks that then have access to these resources that aren't necessarily anchored to something, who want to find purpose.
00:22:04.840And if you are an elite organization like Davos, and you can create this air around yourself about intellectual and moral superiority, you have the ability to pull these folks in and use them as tools and mechanisms to affect your agenda.
00:22:21.300I think that's essentially what she's saying.
00:22:27.240I sympathize for what a lot of those folks are doing.
00:22:32.020Some of these tech wives, to be honest, I know.
00:22:35.860And I think the honest answer is you actually have to start looking at the core of these organizations like these Davosos and start asking the question like,
00:22:46.440maybe we don't need to have this hyper-globalist, monocultural view from the top.
00:22:55.000And I think if you have the courage to say that and say there's a lot of different viewpoints and many people acting independently always gets to a better answer than a group of 1,000 people deciding for 8 billion.
00:23:11.280I think these women tend to be gunners in their own right.
00:23:15.180Nicole, I think she was getting her degree at Stanford when she met Sergei.
00:23:19.220Like, she was on her way toward doing her own independent thing.
00:23:23.280It's the same story for a lot of the women in Silicon Valley.
00:23:25.600It's the same story for a lot of the women where I am in Connecticut who wind up marrying billionaires or, you know, guys who are on their way to becoming.
00:23:33.860And I think what these women need is a more active purpose in their lives.
00:23:39.160I think they wind up married to people who are more successful than they are.
00:23:44.300So it's like, okay, I'll sacrifice my career and I'll raise children.
00:23:48.180But the children quickly age out of the range where you need a mom there full-time.
00:24:05.940And, like, what these women need to do is step away from Davos and these fake charities as, like, something that's real and helping anybody and go to work.
00:24:17.480Like, find the balance that allows you to use your brainpower in the way God intended and also take care of your children if that's what you would like to do.
00:26:59.120I think you have to have a social circle as well that rewards that.
00:27:02.880You know, it's hard to go back and say, listen, I've decided to do X, Y, Z, and that's less interesting than, say, flying around to Davos and giving away money.
00:27:10.460That's, the thing that those folks are able to do, Megan, is they're able to market and make you feel very special for doing that.
00:27:19.000So, all I'm saying is we have to find a way of creating a social culture that rewards what you just said.
00:27:36.220Like, honestly, when I'm choosing a friend, I would much rather see somebody who's, like, hustling on her own, whatever it is, even if she's married.
00:27:44.760I know people like this right now who are married to very rich men who are constantly finding something else intellectually interesting to do, whose children are launched, you know, in college.
00:27:54.020They don't require them full-time any longer, and who just continue to challenge themselves.
00:29:03.860But that gets exploited from K through 12 and beyond by these teachers who use it to make these girls feel like bad people if they don't buy the Democratic Party line.
00:29:16.280It's from all the DEI messaging and the trans messaging right down to when I was in law school, Chamath, they taught us that the Constitution, this is a liberal line, was a living, breathing document that could evolve over time.
00:29:30.920I had no idea that was a liberal line.
00:29:34.420So it was shoved to me by professors who were trying to exploit my empathy.
00:29:37.800Like, it lives and breathes in a way that will allow, you know, due process for people in a way that had never been intended, that will allow the Supreme Court to issue a ruling saying, you can't legislate sex at a certain level, like in a certain way, whatever.
00:29:54.180To read rights into there that were never in there, like the right to privacy and the right to have an abortion.
00:30:00.840Anyway, this is, women are genetically prone to it, given evolution, given how we are, and these leftist professors and teachers know it, the systems know it, they take advantage of it, and I think we need a little bit more testosterone running through our veins.
00:30:16.400Do you think it's organized, or do you think it's disorganized, but because they all have the same incentive, it all kind of goes in the same direction?
00:30:23.840It's taught in a way that, you know, I don't know, it's taught in the same way, like my mom knew how to make the meatballs, because her mom knew how to make the meatballs, and now it skips a generation, because I don't know how to make the meatballs, but I think my daughter's on her way.
00:30:38.240It's just, you learn it, you see it every week growing up, it's modeled for you by the teachers and the professors you respect, it's assumed that you're going to go along, and you know you're going to get a pat on the head if you do it, and then before you know it, you're doing it.
00:30:51.420And like in my case, with the living, breathing constitution, that's just one example, but like, you don't know that this is even questionable.
00:30:59.460It's just taught to you by somebody you respect, and you know, want to get a good grade from, and it's not so much later before you get exposed to other things, and you realize, holy shit, that was a manipulation.
00:31:09.360So all of this, I just think women can avoid a lot of this, and again, it's not to say everybody needs to work, but women who are bored are dangerous.
00:31:43.760Fani Prasad, yeah, but an extraordinary piece of reporting has just come out about the COVID vaccine trials and children.
00:31:56.080Alex Berenson reported this, and I have been reliably informed that we are fine to go with this reporting and that this will be borne out in the coming days.
00:32:04.600His headline is, and it was an exclusive to him, the FDA may add a strict black box warning on the mRNA COVID shots for kids and teens, millions of whom have already been given this thing.
00:32:23.920He reports the FDA may soon place this warning on the vaccines to alert physicians and parents of their link to childhood deaths.
00:32:30.580This is the strictest an agency can impose, this kind of warning.
00:32:34.700It's generally the last step they take before forcing a manufacturer to stop selling it.
00:32:39.400They're also considering an alternative, forcing Moderna and Pfizer to stop selling them to kids and teens, period.
00:32:48.140The potential move, he reports, follows the FDA's report on Friday that its reviewers had found COVID mRNA jabs killed at least 10 children and adolescents and likely many more.
00:33:00.580He said they'd asked the FDA for comment, waiting to hear back.
00:33:03.480My sources tell me this is safe reporting.
00:33:05.820This actually is under consideration, and we're going to hear a report confirming this within days from the highest levels.
00:33:13.540This was forced on us, every school, including my own.
00:33:17.580They were expelling boys who would not take the vaccine once they hit 16 and so on.
00:33:23.120This is downright dangerous, and it was sold to us by the Fauci, Biden, Collins administration under Joe Biden that refused to consider actual scientists like Vinay Prasad, who led this.
00:33:37.820He's leading this within FDA, who was an independent physician at Johns Hopkins at the time.
00:33:43.200And he was saying this at the time, saying these vaccines are causing deadly myocarditis in kids and teens.
00:34:01.220COVID is probably the most important historical moment of the last 50 years for the world.
00:34:11.780And it needs to be understood, I think, in three really important and critical things for the success and the future of the United States.
00:34:21.620The first is that we did not allow robust thinking and dissenting voices during that period, all the way up to being able to call places like Facebook and places like Twitter and telling them,
00:34:41.900places like Google and telling them, take this down or, you know, do put a warning on this, de-boost that, you know, that's the effective equivalent of a black box label for content.
00:34:55.000If you're not going to create even reasonable disclaimers and just suppress information, what the average person will do is come to a conclusion based on what is available to them.
00:35:06.120But if what is available to them is a small sliver of the total groupthink or of the total thought, you're going to get very narrow opinions.
00:35:15.880And it allowed a small group of people to control the narrative and then to make decisions.
00:35:20.180That is extremely dangerous in a democracy.
00:35:23.000So that's the first thing that we learned in COVID that has to change.
00:35:26.180So within that, I think we have to go and uncover all of the true underlying medical research and put it out into the light.
00:35:34.020You know, the great Barrington declaration that Jay Bhattacharya wrote caused them to essentially get defenestrated from Stanford.
00:35:40.760And yet he turned out to be right as well.
00:35:43.020There are umpteen examples where very credible scientists were saying, let's just slow down here and think about this.
00:35:50.020And they were not allowed to say that.
00:35:52.040And they were, and that content was essentially suppressed.
00:35:55.140So rational, independent thinking people like you and me and your listeners could not come to our own conclusion.
00:36:02.460The second thing is that what we learned in COVID is, hold on a second, this globalist monoculture has made us super fragile.
00:36:12.120If somebody in some remote part of the world decides that they don't like what we're doing or saying, they can shut things off.
00:36:19.160And all of a sudden, these supply chains go dark and our entire economy folds in on itself.
00:36:25.300That cannot be how a robust, resilient country like the United States thrives for the next 250 years, like we have in the last 250.
00:36:34.560So that was, that was the second big thing.
00:36:37.860And then the third thing, which we still are not putting our finger on is, we have had a huge setback to kids.
00:36:45.720It created an enormous deficit from learning and from socialization.
00:36:52.780And I can speak personally about this myself with five kids all sheltering in place for that period of time.
00:36:58.880When I look at the impacts, it's the children at that age that were six, seven, and eight, who are today 11, 12, 13, and 14, of which I have one, two actually.
00:37:09.100My gosh, they really took a step backwards in their ability to learn, in their ability to engage.
00:37:16.320And I don't think we're doing the best for these children who are the future of our country in the next 20 or 30 years.
00:37:23.180So those three things in COVID, frankly, caused me extreme frustration.
00:37:27.620The lack of free speech and democracy, the lack of resiliency in the United States economy that we had created because we just outsourced everything to Davos and their ilk.
00:37:36.300And then the impact of our kids that we are still not addressing.
00:37:40.060I think that all of that needs to get put on display and we need to be extremely honest about it.
00:37:48.500The problem that Biden did at the end, which I thought was extremely offensive, was by pre-pardoning all these folks.
00:37:54.860We essentially allow this get out of jail free card where you can't even interrogate the truth.
00:37:59.600So you can't even have an accounting for the future.
00:38:02.460You know, look, we have had huge mistakes in the past in the United States.
00:38:05.260But we've been able to have commissions.
00:38:07.840Those commissions can at a minimum write reports.
00:38:10.480Those reports can then be taken by think tanks.
00:38:12.560We may not agree with this process, but at least at a minimum, there is a way for good, sensible policy to then enter the water table.
00:38:21.320None of that will be possible here because so much of it is suppressed or because we've already taken all of this stuff off the table.
00:38:42.320I mean, independent media in our lane, all in, and yours truly, and Tucker and many others were speaking up against the lies that we were being told, in particular when it came to children.
00:38:51.960But let me just give you one example, all right?
00:38:55.420When this was happening, I was listening to Dr. Vinay Prasad.
00:38:59.580I had never heard of him, but I was very attuned, thanks to Brett Weinstein and many others I do listen to, that there was a problem with these COVID vaccines, especially when it came to kids.
00:39:14.920I listened to his podcast all the time, and he's a doctor, and he was talking real truths about the COVID vaccines and about myocarditis and pericarditis, in particular in teenage boys, but teenage girls too, and in kids.
00:39:27.100And now he's at FDA, and now Alex Berenson reporting, again, we expect this to break from the highest level soon, reporting that Dr. Vinay Prasad wrote a six-page note to staffers, saying the real number of children and teenagers killed by the mRNA vaccines is likely much higher than 10 children.
00:39:46.660After looking at 96 deaths of kids aged 7 to 16, FDA reviewers found 10, quote, died after and because of receiving the COVID-19 vaccination, but that depends on voluntary reporting and is almost certainly a significant underestimate, Prasad wrote.
00:40:06.820In addition, the FDA reviewers excluded cases where records were ambiguous, and Berenson reports that one of these children died during the Moderna vaccine trial.
00:40:20.580And what they did with that kid was just to exclude him.
00:40:37.620In any event, they just wrote him out of the trial, so they didn't have to count him.
00:40:41.720So this is what was being done, and then those vaccines were made mandatory for our children.
00:40:47.680I want to say one note to scared parents right now.
00:40:50.660The information seems to be that, God forbid, this thing were going to cause a death, it would have happened.
00:40:55.840Like, it wouldn't be now four years later.
00:40:58.380Like, you don't, yes, of course, get your child checked, for sure.
00:41:01.300For sure, I'd be having my kid checked if they had a vaccine, but even without the vaccine, if they had COVID, get an EKG, get an echocardiogram that's actually not too expensive.
00:41:11.940You can get your doctor to order it, and just check out their heart.
00:41:28.080The one great thing is, you know, I know Marty and I know Bobby and Jay.
00:41:34.780These are three exceptional Americans, and they are bulldogs for the truth.
00:41:41.540And so I suspect that if this comes to pass and there is a black box label, it's because they've done some pretty thoughtful research and they've rerun the data and they've, you know, included.
00:41:54.240The thing is that, you know, you can exclude data, but that data is written down somewhere.
00:41:59.780So to the extent that they got their hands on this and was able to see it and they decide that the black box label is the right way to go, I really trust those three to do the right thing.
00:42:09.180The other thing that I'll say is that it would be really incredible over time where we can release some of this data in an anonymized way so that some of these new AI models could rerun some of these statistical analyses just to make sure that all the math was right.
00:42:30.000I think that's probably something that should happen anyways, you know, that's something that the FDA could do in partnership with Google and Anthropic and OpenAI and Grok as an example.
00:42:40.920But I think it would give people a lot more certainty that the math and the analysis and the conclusions are defensible, not just in the eyes of the companies who have an economic incentive to get to a yes, but, you know, AI models who are trained to just be extremely truthful.
00:43:02.060And I think that that could be a very helpful new tool in the arsenal of how we as a community, like, let's be honest, Megan, I mean, you and I have both been prescribed drugs.
00:43:13.120It's really hard to understand what's going on.
00:43:16.580And, you know, I've just assumed that everything is done correctly.
00:43:19.680I remember that when I once said on the All In podcast, are you allowed to call something a vaccine that is 30 or 40% efficacious?
00:43:29.540That's when I got some of the most severe pushback ever, just to even ask that question, you know, because when I think vaccine, when I get a vaccine, I'm protected for life.
00:43:41.240That's what I that's what I just kind of assumed.
00:43:43.520And so when I give my kids vaccines, that's what I'm thinking as well.
00:43:46.400But if I'm taking something that's 30 or 40% efficacious, it doesn't seem like a vaccine.
00:43:50.300It seems like a best efforts attempt, you know, and that's when, like, you know, at some point I stopped taking the flu vaccine because of that, because it's not really a vaccine.
00:43:59.800My doctor tells me, yeah, 30 or 40% of the time it'll help you, 60% of the time you're on your own.
00:44:05.720And I wasn't even allowed to ask that question on air.
00:44:09.140Well, so the media thing, back in, it was October 19th, 2022, just to walk down memory lane.
00:44:16.140And I'd been listening to Vinay and others, and I tweeted out the following because they were, the CDC had just added the COVID vaccine to its list of mandatory, you know, recommended school vaccinations.
00:44:28.220And I tweeted out the following, a scary number of kids are dying after taking the COVID vax from myocarditis, among other injuries.
00:44:36.620How dare the CDC add this to its list of school vaccinations?