The Megyn Kelly Show - Fox News' Post-Tucker Existential Crisis, and Brave Young Women Speaking Out, with Buck Sexton, Payton McNabb, and more ｜ Ep. 539

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00:01:33.880 in the country with our pal, Buck Sexton,

00:01:36.920 co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

00:01:40.440 Buck, great to have you back.

00:01:41.340 How are you doing?

00:01:42.680 I'm good, Megyn.

00:01:43.480 Thank you so much for having me.

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00:01:46.220 All right, so I just looked at the Fox News ratings

00:01:50.060 in the 8 p.m. time slot

00:01:51.680 from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

00:01:54.200 We don't have Thursday yet

00:01:55.200 because they come out at 4.20 every day,

00:01:57.440 so we'll get those at 4.20 today.

00:01:59.460 And just a couple of the terms that came to mind,

00:02:03.320 massacre, bloodbath, murder, devastation.

00:02:09.520 The audience is gone.

00:02:12.060 They left.

00:02:13.280 There's virtually no one there at 8 p.m. anymore.

00:02:16.180 Just as bad as I'm sure Fox News worried it would get.

00:02:19.520 It's far worse than that.

00:02:21.220 I tweeted out yesterday they lost half their audience.

00:02:23.920 It's worse than that.

00:02:24.680 They've lost almost two-thirds of their audience

00:02:28.780 in the 8 p.m. time slot.

00:02:31.220 It's total devastation.

00:02:33.320 I'm going to give you the latest numbers.

00:02:35.680 On Monday, Kilmeade got 2.6 million in the overall.

00:02:39.100 Tucker had been getting 3.2 the previous Monday.

00:02:42.600 Kilmeade got 294,000 in the key audience demo

00:02:45.840 of 25 to 54-year-olds.

00:02:47.620 The previous Monday, Tucker had 445.

00:02:50.340 Tuesday, it got worse.

00:02:53.760 Kilmeade got 1.7 million viewers.

00:02:56.440 Tucker's previous Tuesday, 3.2 million.

00:02:59.980 3.2.

00:03:01.600 In the key demo on Tuesday,

00:03:04.100 the 8 p.m. got 149,000 in the key demo.

00:03:09.720 149,000.

00:03:10.800 Tucker the previous week had almost 500,000.

00:03:14.200 He had 481.

00:03:15.680 I mean, we're talking about, what, 330,000 loss in the key demo?

00:03:20.240 That's the one they use to run advertising dollars. 0.53

00:03:22.560 That's the one they care about.

00:03:24.320 He lost.

00:03:25.240 He lost in the demo to CNN and MSNBC.

00:03:27.860 That doesn't happen.

00:03:29.080 That doesn't happen at 8 p.m. on the Fox News channel.

00:03:32.440 Trust me.

00:03:32.840 I was there for almost 20 years.

00:03:34.140 On Wednesday at 8 p.m., this is just shocking to me.

00:03:39.720 They got 1.33 million.

00:03:41.560 That was below the 7 p.m., below the 6 p.m.

00:03:46.200 And compare it with Tucker's the previous week of 3 million.

00:03:51.980 3 million down to 1.3 million in a week's time.

00:03:58.320 I just, like, it's absolutely stunning.

00:04:01.300 In the key demo the previous week, Tucker had gotten 357,000 in the key audience demo.

00:04:07.340 The 8 p.m. now, 124,000.

00:04:11.400 124 down from almost 400,000.

00:04:14.260 They lost again to CNN and MSNBC.

00:04:18.860 The 8 p.m. is now losing to Anderson Cooper and Chris Hayes.

00:04:22.340 It doesn't happen.

00:04:23.020 It's never, it doesn't happen unless somebody else has got, like, live video of an earthquake in process or a car chase in process.

00:04:31.860 That's the only way, progress, that the other channels beat Fox.

00:04:36.300 And yet it's happening now.

00:04:37.640 I want to tell you something.

00:04:38.840 Fox News is in a downward spiral that they're going to have to claw to get themselves out of.

00:04:43.500 Just by way of context, all right, these numbers overall are so dreadful.

00:04:47.240 We went back and looked back at when I was number one in the key audience demo when I was at nine hosting on Fox News.

00:04:55.980 You know what my demo was in October right before I left?

00:05:00.960 641,000.

00:05:02.280 That's what I was getting in the key audience demo.

00:05:04.380 641,000.

00:05:05.380 They are down at 124,000 right now at the 8 p.m.

00:05:10.820 And this is an existential crisis for the channel in its prime time, which is how they make money.

00:05:17.500 Don't get me wrong.

00:05:18.800 Daytime is nice for news development.

00:05:20.360 You got to keep something on the air.

00:05:21.740 They live off of their prime time and the food has dried up.

00:05:26.260 Your reaction?

00:05:27.100 Look, I think that this is the first time that Fox is having to deal with an audience that because of the way a host has has exited in this case, feels like their best interests are not being taken into account.

00:05:48.520 Right.

00:05:48.660 I think that this is the first time that you've seen.

00:05:50.560 I mean, with the O'Reilly situation, I think it was very different.

00:05:54.460 You know, your situation was very different.

00:05:57.420 And everyone that I talked to on this issue, it says kind of the same thing, which is, one, we have no explanation for it, like no official explanation.

00:06:06.440 I know there's all these different news stories about it, but it feels like this was a decision that came very suddenly and that the audience wasn't really a factor.

00:06:16.500 And I think when you break that bond with the people who are supposed to be watching, consuming your content, and when all of a sudden it feels like decisions are being made that are not in their best interests, but actually some kind of personality conflict maybe at the top of the organization, that's a huge challenge.

00:06:33.640 Also, Tucker gave legitimacy to much of the rest of the Fox primetime lineup, I think, in terms of being willing to – he was the guy who was willing to run into issues that were, you know, too hot to handle.

00:06:50.840 I mean, he was the guy who was willing to actually, I think, push the envelope, and that meant that there are people like me.

00:06:55.780 I used to watch Tucker every night.

00:06:56.920 Like, I'll say that openly.

00:06:58.260 I would watch his monologue.

00:07:00.120 I do three hours of radio a day.

00:07:01.740 Some days I'll do an additional podcast, right?

00:07:03.460 Megan, you know what it's like.

00:07:04.480 I'll do many hours of my own content.

00:07:06.940 I have almost no time to consume anyone else's content.

00:07:09.920 But Tucker's monologue, I would make a point to watch it when I could.

00:07:14.620 And now that's not even on my radar anymore.

00:07:16.400 So people like me, for example, we're not going to get there early and maybe catch more of Jesse's show.

00:07:21.020 We're not going to get there later or stay later and, you know, watch more of Sean's show.

00:07:25.860 Fox has just fallen off of our radar.

00:07:27.420 If you were coming for Tucker's monologue, now your reason for turning on that primetime channel is – that channel at primetime feels like it's faded away.

00:07:37.920 I don't know how they can turn this around.

00:07:40.220 Look, I think they have to bring Tucker back, quite honestly.

00:07:42.600 That's where – I don't know what they think is going to happen here.

00:07:45.220 That would be the smile.

00:07:45.760 Right, I mean, I think that's what has to happen here because, first of all, Brian Kilby – you know Brian.

00:07:52.320 Brian is a super nice guy.

00:07:54.120 I love Brian.

00:07:55.500 I feel – I know.

00:07:56.720 Brian is such a good dude and he's being put in such a tough spot here.

00:08:00.240 It's not his fault.

00:08:01.160 No, right.

00:08:01.760 Oh, totally.

00:08:02.100 It's like they found their most likable personality and put him in the spot sort of saying, you'll watch Brian, right?

00:08:06.920 You like Brian?

00:08:07.640 This isn't about Brian.

00:08:08.640 This is the audience with the double-barrel middle finger saying, you can F right off Fox News.

00:08:14.660 We don't care who you put there. 0.98

00:08:16.420 Where's Tucker?

00:08:17.820 I mean, I'll tell you just from my own experience, right, stepping in for – there are really – there's primetime at Fox and there's being on one of the big four radio shows.

00:08:29.960 But really, the biggest, obviously, was Rush Limbaugh for over 30 years.

00:08:33.860 And when Rush passed, there was this understanding with the audience that they're – again, what I was saying before about their interests, that relationship, that bond that Rush had with that audience was so respected, was so respected by Premier, by iHeart, and just everybody involved that the decision was made.

00:08:55.500 Look, we're just going to have people come.

00:08:57.020 We're doing effectively a tribute to Rush.

00:08:59.640 They did a tribute to Rush pulling his – some of his best stuff for months, for months.

00:09:05.860 And that was done intentionally just to say, look, we want all of you to know that Rush was the greatest that's ever done this.

00:09:11.900 And then the decision came along.

00:09:13.800 People said, well, why is it like the Clay and Buck show?

00:09:15.960 Why are there two of you?

00:09:17.160 I mean, the joke I always make is that Rush's shoes were too big to fill so that they put Clay in one shoe and me in the other, and we're running as fast as we can in it.

00:09:25.040 And I think the audience knows that we have that level of respect for Rush and what he did.

00:09:30.560 But what I'm saying is that there was this real plan to transition and this understanding of no one's filling Rush's shoes, but we're going to try to serve this audience anyway.

00:09:40.440 So that audience felt respected.

00:09:42.600 Megan, right now, the 8 p.m. Fox audience – and I know because I'm one of them and I talk to so many people who are – they feel disrespected.

00:09:50.520 They're like, well, what do you mean you're taking our guy off the air?

00:09:52.620 But for what? They haven't even told anybody for what yet.

00:09:55.320 I think they have to bring Tucker back.

00:09:57.040 I think short of that, this is not an issue that can be easily fixed.

00:10:02.360 And, you know, when you departed, Bill departed, there was the Trump wave that happened, right?

00:10:08.280 The Trump phenomenon.

00:10:09.760 Yeah.

00:10:10.340 The Trump phenomenon.

00:10:11.360 I mean, honestly, all you had to do was sort of get on TV and cover Trump and be like, wow, this is kind of an amazing political reality we've got here.

00:10:18.420 And it was just like, boom, right?

00:10:20.280 That's not there anymore.

00:10:21.420 And it's not going to be there even if Trump, I think, wins the primary because it's just a different attitude and a different time.

00:10:26.680 So I think that for the first time, Fox to me is in an existential crisis when it comes to viewers.

00:10:33.100 And I've been watching Fox since I was in high school.

00:10:36.180 I agree with you 100%.

00:10:37.320 I used to laugh that those big numbers I was getting at nine, I was very proud of them.

00:10:42.440 I got those during the Obama years, the Obama years, Buck.

00:10:47.100 OK, it wasn't during the Trump cup run over years.

00:10:51.460 It was hard to put points on the board back then.

00:10:53.880 The man was nine times out of 10 quite boring, not as boring as Joe Biden, but he was a bore compared to Trump.

00:11:00.660 But in any event, so you're right.

00:11:02.920 Not only do they is Trump not going to be quite as exciting this time around, even if he gets it, but Fox has turned on Trump.

00:11:09.640 Maybe the Murdochs will eventually say, OK, we'll submit and we'll go along with him if he becomes the GOP nominee.

00:11:14.600 But very clearly, they've turned on him.

00:11:16.800 Take one look at The Wall Street Journal or The New York Post or Fox's editorial.

00:11:22.000 They've turned on Trump and the message has come down.

00:11:24.620 So they're not going to be taking the Trump pressers and, you know, his rallies and the way they did in 1516.

00:11:31.880 So they don't have that magic card to play.

00:11:34.340 They actually have to earn it.

00:11:35.520 And what they have right now is a broken trust with the audience who they helped introduce to Tucker, who they made love Tucker.

00:11:43.100 Tucker did it on his own, but I'm just saying they gave Tucker the opportunity and he hit it out of the park, he and his team.

00:11:48.140 And then they yanked the rug right out from under them, from from under Tucker, from under Justin Wells, his producer from under the audience.

00:11:55.700 As you point out, with zero attempt to even tell the audience why, you know, with me, it was different.

00:12:02.340 I left voluntarily.

00:12:04.000 The audience understood that.

00:12:05.320 OK, she wants to do something else with Bill.

00:12:07.820 It was different.

00:12:08.700 OK, he paid out 69 million bucks in sexual harassment settlements.

00:12:12.360 That's not going to fly in the Me Too era.

00:12:14.060 We get it.

00:12:14.720 We don't like it, but he's got to go.

00:12:16.200 We get it.

00:12:17.240 They're not going to hold that against Fox.

00:12:19.140 There's been nothing not.

00:12:20.900 And I get from an H.R. perspective, Buck, how you, you know, you don't want to say much just in case you get sued.

00:12:26.020 This is well beyond that.

00:12:27.480 This is well beyond that.

00:12:29.240 They must give an explanation.

00:12:31.100 And instead, what they're doing is just leaking a different smear every day.

00:12:35.780 You know, we talked about yesterday how in The New York Times it was, oh, you know, we've been provided with we've gotten our hands on a videotape showing Tucker referring to some random woman as yummy, talking about his, quote, post menopausal audience and whether they'll like the way he looks.

00:12:51.900 I'm telling you, that's Fox calling through his commercial breaks while he's sitting there making small talk with his staff, pulling stupid comments.

00:13:01.720 None of those would reflect well on any of us if they did that.

00:13:04.500 Like your your adrenaline's flowing.

00:13:05.960 You're passing the time.

00:13:07.220 What?

00:13:07.500 It's ridiculous.

00:13:08.380 That's how they're trying to take him down without just telling us.

00:13:10.960 Why did you do this?

00:13:11.920 Well, yeah, I think that, you know, Fox is in a really difficult position here because they're setting a standard now.

00:13:22.540 So so, you know, for you are are an exception in this regard.

00:13:26.860 And I mean that.

00:13:28.020 And, you know, there are some others, too, where you can really say what you want and there's not some concern that you're going to get, you know, booted.

00:13:36.580 Right.

00:13:36.800 I mean, you know, within reason, I think a lot of us who do this for a living and are trying to, you know, and I'm saying things on radio on a regular basis that I think are pushing the envelope.

00:13:48.540 I don't think I'm crossing any lines.

00:13:50.340 But when the 8 p.m. at Fox just gets tossed like this and again, without and by the way, Bill, you know, Bill was on on TV and did this.

00:13:58.720 The bill that Bill got 20 years.

00:14:00.200 Right.

00:14:00.340 Like Bill wasn't somebody who it wasn't it didn't feel like his run was cut short or in the same way.

00:14:07.220 You know, Bill might disagree with that.

00:14:08.640 And I don't mean that disrespectfully.

00:14:10.160 I just mean, you know, he got a good run at Fox.

00:14:12.460 He did.

00:14:12.680 Tucker had been doing this for what, six years in the 8 p.m.?

00:14:15.200 But it feels like to all the rest of us.

00:14:17.460 And Tucker's a young man.

00:14:18.720 With all respect to O'Reilly.

00:14:20.580 O'Reilly was, you know, I think 70 when he got pushed out.

00:14:22.980 Tucker's 53.

00:14:24.560 Right.

00:14:24.780 Well, that's what I mean.

00:14:25.560 It's just a different, you know, when a player, when the captain of the team who's, you know, been to, you know, 10, you know, 10 or 15 All-Star games or something, you know, moves to a different league.

00:14:34.840 That's one thing when the guy who feels like he's in his just sort of hitting his professional stride and just sort of touching on some of these issues that were opening up some of these issues that I think Tucker was doing.

00:14:47.020 A really masterful job of that.

00:14:48.980 That feels very different to the audience.

00:14:50.600 So there's there's a lot of complications for this.

00:14:53.440 And I think that for people who would like to believe that conservative media has.

00:14:59.820 I mean, I refer to like our radio show, for example, because, you know, in all honesty, and Clay says this all the time.

00:15:04.740 So I'll say this, too.

00:15:05.620 Like we have phenomenal we have phenomenal bosses like we're lucky.

00:15:08.560 I'm never told what to say.

00:15:09.900 They they back me up.

00:15:11.320 And as long as I'm sort of staying within the principles of who I am and, you know, what I do, I know that I'm I'm supported.

00:15:17.980 But Fox, we I used to say that our show is like an unsinkable battleship of free speech.

00:15:24.000 Right now, nothing's truly unsinkable if it's out in the water.

00:15:26.400 But you get the idea for the 8 p.m. to go down like this.

00:15:29.920 I think they're reverberations.

00:15:32.040 And one of the reasons it's so upsetting to people is, OK, well, if Tucker can't talk about maybe the GOP is going astray on corporatism or the war.

00:15:39.900 Ukraine or or big pharma donor money or whatever it may be, if he can't get away with that and whether that was why there was any pressure on him or not, that's a whole other discussion.

00:15:50.600 But it feels like none of us really can.

00:15:52.440 Right. I mean, this is you're the 8 p.m. at Fox.

00:15:54.860 You're the tentpole of that network.

00:15:57.100 And you get summarily dismissed without real explanation.

00:16:01.460 Everybody else in this business feels like how long before there's some corporate pressure that gets me booted.

00:16:07.040 Do you know what I mean?

00:16:07.700 It's it feels like a shot that affects the psychology, I think, of a lot of people who are trying to shed light on on troubling issues.

00:16:16.300 And yeah, and also, you know, Tucker was he was kind of blocking and tackling for a lot of people to follow in and to say these things and ask these questions.

00:16:25.400 So with that gone, there's a piece of the movement that feels like has been taken out.

00:16:30.860 So it's even bigger.

00:16:31.580 Here's the other thing, here's the other thing.

00:16:33.120 What's you mentioned you and Clay, right?

00:16:35.180 You're you're crushing it in radio.

00:16:37.720 The digital lane has got, you know, so many great voices from Ben Shapiro.

00:16:42.420 Joe Rogan, of course, is one.

00:16:43.800 I'm over here.

00:16:44.980 Glenn, there are so many people to choose from now.

00:16:48.740 If you are in the center, center right or right.

00:16:53.380 So many people, Dan Bongino, who they fired so many great choices.

00:16:57.960 You don't need Fox anymore.

00:16:59.960 They are not the monopoly in conservative media that they used to be.

00:17:05.460 They're just not.

00:17:06.800 And so you take away the unique voice.

00:17:09.380 The one thing that really is different over there.

00:17:11.700 Tucker's different.

00:17:12.620 He just comes at things from different angles.

00:17:15.020 What's the reason?

00:17:16.280 Why do I need to tune in to Fox News in the evening now?

00:17:19.820 Now I can be with my family.

00:17:21.040 Now I can listen to a show that I've downloaded on my show on my on my phone.

00:17:24.960 Like they're taking away the the one unique, truly unique draw they had.

00:17:31.440 I think also, you know, you know this from coming up with with rundowns night in and night out on cable and now on this show.

00:17:39.060 But you could tune in and look, I, you know, Sean Hannity has always been amazing to me.

00:17:44.700 And he's, you know, one of the most successful people in this medium of all time.

00:17:50.280 And so no, no, nothing but but love for him and Jesse Waters, who's now stepped into seven o'clock.

00:17:54.960 But, you know, you kind of generally know with those shows, I feel like you kind of know what you're getting a little bit where you're going to have.

00:18:02.580 I knew what the I knew what the top story was going to be on those shows any time that I tuned in.

00:18:07.540 Right. I mean, that's and that's not a knock.

00:18:09.380 It's just, you know, you're kind of this is what this is kind of where the Republican media focus is today with Tucker.

00:18:16.580 Sometimes you start the show and you're like, wait, what are we what are we talking about today?

00:18:20.280 You know, it was and that sense of both, you know, of adventure and discovery that you had from tuning into that monologue was, to your point, very unique.

00:18:30.280 And and I think it was a whole draw. It was a draw, but also it made people stay around more for other things.

00:18:37.800 And it also made it feel like the rest of, you know, if you think of the primetime network, I mean, the primetime shows as almost like a team.

00:18:44.380 Right. There was always at least one guy on the team who was really who was really throwing punches.

00:18:50.200 You know what I mean? Who was who was taking shots at the other side and everyone was kind of playing their playing their role, I think.

00:18:55.920 And now without that, it's like, well, I can get a lot of this.

00:19:00.500 The media landscape has changed dramatically since the beginning of the Trump era.

00:19:05.240 You know, there were those huge changes. Right. Obviously, L's is pushed out, passes, passes away. 1.00

00:19:10.860 You know, you and and O'Reilly leave. But then you had the Trump phenomenon.

00:19:14.600 But you also now have so many more ways. I mean, look, I was watching.

00:19:19.060 I watch Fox on YouTube TV and I wasn't watching. I don't know. I don't have a cable box.

00:19:23.720 I don't subscribe to cable and I'm 41. So I'm kind of maybe in the you know, that era where people are just my age or are switching and becoming more and more cord cutters.

00:19:34.500 Content on demand and content from people that are really trying to serve the audience has gotten better as an experience and more varied overall across the whole landscape.

00:19:43.760 And content creators have more leverage, as you know. Right.

00:19:47.140 I mean, you know, you're sitting here as a perfect example of somebody who gets to do what she wants to do on her show and you'll partner with established platforms and brands and things.

00:19:56.700 But that's it's a whole different world now.

00:19:59.240 And I feel like Fox in just a business sense, maybe maybe learning that.

00:20:04.660 I mean, why would you cut ties with your one unicorn at a time when people are cord cutting digital media is on the rise?

00:20:11.620 It's so user friendly. If you want to listen to me, to you guys, to Ben, you can do it whenever you want.

00:20:16.640 You don't have to tune in and sit in front of your your cable box at 9 p.m. or whatever the time.

00:20:22.340 You know, it's just it doesn't make any business sense.

00:20:24.920 And we still don't know the reason. That's why people speculate.

00:20:27.500 Was it his ideology? Was it the fact that he pushed back against elites like the people who run Fox?

00:20:33.400 You know, what was it? The fact that he was too open to the MAGA base.

00:20:37.500 Could that have been it since they've turned on MAGA over there to some extent?

00:20:41.980 I had one reliable person tell me it's because something in those text messages is negative about the Murdochs.

00:20:49.200 Please tell me that that thin skinned. Please tell me they're not that thin skinned. 1.00

00:20:53.300 That an employee venting about them in a private message never meant to be seen by them would lead them to fire the guy.

00:20:59.860 I'll tell you right now to my staff right now.

00:21:01.180 If you're out there and you have negative texts about me because I've been a bitch one day, you know, privately, you go for it.

00:21:06.720 People need to vent. It's like getting mad at your kid because he said to his sibling, God, she's a nightmare after you yell at them.

00:21:13.180 Like people need to vent. If that's what it is, it's actually totally absurd.

00:21:17.920 And I can see why they're embarrassed about it and they want to pin it on 10 other different things.

00:21:22.180 I don't know. Can I say this, though, just to move it forward?

00:21:24.960 Of course, the left is reveling in this. They're reveling in the fact that that Tucker in particular was fired because they hated him.

00:21:33.220 And that cues up Jimmy Kimmel just perfectly.

00:21:37.720 I'm sorry to have to put you through this, but here's just a bit.

00:21:40.520 I know of Jimmy Kimmel reacting to Tucker's video.

00:21:44.660 We put out a video two days ago, didn't address the Fox situation directly, but talked about how we're all run by elites now and there are no more even two parties.

00:21:52.700 It's really one party rule in America.

00:21:55.140 Those who are in the elite cabal and those who are not, and they will decide what gets to be discussed and talked about.

00:22:01.160 And if you call her outside the lines, you'll be punished.

00:22:03.480 So it's pretty, you know, not so veiled message, I think, about why he thinks he got the boot.

00:22:09.300 And here's Jimmy Kimmel reacting.

00:22:12.660 These texts were said to be so offensive, Fox didn't know whether to fire Carlson or to give him another hour on primetime.

00:22:20.080 It's easy to forget how much Tucker Carlson has accomplished over his career.

00:22:23.900 He's been fired by Fox, CNN, MSNBC and PBS.

00:22:28.860 That's like the EGOT of cable news.

00:22:30.820 But punks of scrawny Phil emerged from his hole last night with a video message addressing his fans.

00:22:36.820 Wait until you hear about this guy named Tucker Carlson.

00:22:40.280 You are going to hate him.

00:22:41.880 Man boobs should be the name of his next show. 0.99

00:22:44.580 This video, it looks like he made it while waiting for a table at the Cracker Barrel.

00:22:49.300 As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.

00:22:53.280 Oh my goodness, even his hair was a lie.

00:22:55.660 Okay, you know how much it costs to produce Jimmy Kimmel's show?

00:23:01.640 I guarantee you it's tens and tens of millions.

00:23:04.840 It could be as much as a hundred.

00:23:06.260 I have no idea, but it's tens of millions of dollars to produce that show.

00:23:10.300 You know how much Tucker's video cost?

00:23:12.080 Nothing.

00:23:12.780 Absolutely nothing.

00:23:14.020 You know how much Jimmy Kimmel, how many people he gets tuning in on average night?

00:23:17.520 Um, just last week, his average was in the overall, meaning all viewers, 1.5 million in

00:23:22.800 the key demo, 236,000.

00:23:25.680 Tucker would have been embarrassed to pull that on any night he was on the Fox News channel.

00:23:29.400 That's what they're getting now with the APM that nobody's watching.

00:23:32.980 Tucker's numbers were three times what Jimmy Kimmel gets.

00:23:35.980 And Tucker's little basement video that he did from clearly like his cabin that he broadcasts

00:23:40.560 out of Maine in, um, literally has 21 million views.

00:23:44.560 Okay.

00:23:45.460 21 million views.

00:23:47.220 Whereas as I point out on ABC, a massive network that comes into your home for free

00:23:52.940 that you have to make no effort to find at best, Jimmy Kimmel can get 1.5 million.

00:23:58.980 So this guy, he needs to have a little self perspective before going out there and hurling

00:24:06.600 these insults because he looks a little silly.

00:24:10.440 Well, yeah.

00:24:11.360 And, and I think, look, there's, there's a couple of things here, right?

00:24:14.360 There's on the one hand, um, there's obviously the jealousy, which I think you're, you're

00:24:20.620 getting at, which is that Tucker Carlson is able to, was able to create such a, now granted

00:24:26.960 Fox is a great platform and we, we would all admit that, but he became even a phenomenon

00:24:31.540 within that, within that realm and, and became such a big part of the national conversation.

00:24:36.440 I mean, Jimmy Kimmel is an unfunny comedian who was handed a big break.

00:24:40.900 And instead of actually using a really phenomenal opportunity to entertain people, to bring

00:24:46.780 people together and make them laugh, he became a low IQ political hack who also makes jokes

00:24:51.940 sometimes.

00:24:52.720 And it's kind of sad to watch, but that's what the guy who used to be, you know, running

00:24:56.700 around asking women inappropriate questions on the man show has become.

00:24:59.900 It's not funny.

00:25:00.740 I mean, I've, I've tried occasionally to watch that.

00:25:02.640 I'm just like, what happened to the late night comedy shows?

00:25:04.820 By the way, Greg Gutfeld show crushing those shows.

00:25:08.320 And I think it's because, uh, well, a number of reasons, one of them is that Greg actually

00:25:12.220 tries to be funny more than to please the, uh, political corporate masters that are demanding,

00:25:18.100 you know, constant attacks on Trump or something like that.

00:25:20.700 So there's the vanity component of it, which, you know, is very common in, in media.

00:25:25.080 Um, and, and then also, I just think that there's, uh, uh, you know, that, well, there's

00:25:29.920 that, that you could say is actually jealousy.

00:25:31.360 And then we can go to the vanity of they hate Tucker because he made fun of them.

00:25:35.500 That's a big part of all this as well.

00:25:37.720 Um, Tucker was able to laugh at the elites and laugh at silly people in the media who

00:25:44.520 are generally very overpaid, deeply unimpressive, lack gratitude for the fact that they, and

00:25:51.020 I, you know, you go the women of the view, the late night, uh, you know, comedian shows

00:25:55.260 like these are people, every host at MSNBC.

00:25:57.440 These are people who are entirely replaceable, who are nasty and often lead very sad and selfish

00:26:03.520 lives.

00:26:04.500 Um, and certainly aren't doing anything, I think, to benefit any political conversation

00:26:08.800 in the country.

00:26:09.380 It's just the most hackneyed talking points you could ever find.

00:26:12.240 And instead of being grateful for the fact that they're paid these salaries and given

00:26:16.780 these opportunities, it's like, they just become increasingly bitter.

00:26:20.380 Um, and they have no sense of humor about themselves at all.

00:26:23.740 You'll notice, and this is true of all totalitarians, by the way, but it's certainly true of the, 0.73

00:26:29.380 what we used to call the mainstream media.

00:26:30.780 We didn't even notice that Megan, that, that term faded away.

00:26:33.580 And I think it's because they're not the mainstream media really anymore because the media has

00:26:37.960 expanded so much and changed so much.

00:26:39.740 So it's really a misnomer to call them the MSN.

00:26:42.960 Um, I sometimes will call them Democrat, Democrat, corporate media, or, you know, leftist corporate

00:26:47.080 media or whatever.

00:26:47.640 Uh, but I really do think that they, you'll notice, they hate Tucker, right?

00:26:53.300 I mean, you know, they, they might've, I'm sure they were taking shots at you when you,

00:26:56.160 when you left, uh, Fox.

00:26:58.080 Um, but they hate Tucker in this literally like visceral way because he would openly and

00:27:04.440 with his Tucker laugh, mock them.

00:27:06.460 And that's the, that is the sin that they shall never forgive.

00:27:09.320 So it's, it's weirdly personal for all of the people who are making these, uh, these comments

00:27:15.120 on TV about Tucker now that hate him so much.

00:27:17.420 And, uh, I think that's just a testament to his effectiveness, but we need more people

00:27:20.880 that will mock these clowns. 1.00

00:27:23.480 The, even the bit at the end where they, if for the listening audience, there's a, the

00:27:28.680 Kimmel ended that bit by pulling off what he was suggesting was a toupee off of Tucker

00:27:35.400 and showing a bald head.

00:27:37.100 Tucker's hair is 100% real.

00:27:39.440 And it just shows it.

00:27:41.260 He does have great hair, but it just shows Kimmel's bitterness.

00:27:44.260 His jealousy.

00:27:45.560 What do you, you don't do that.

00:27:46.840 Like you can make fun of Tucker, however you want, but like, why go personal?

00:27:50.340 Why do that?

00:27:50.920 Like, because he's jealous.

00:27:52.660 It's coming out of his nostrils.

00:27:55.320 He can't stand his success.

00:27:58.280 He's reveling in the fact that Tucker's been pulled from Fox news and talk about short sighted.

00:28:03.960 You know, you just wait, you just wait until Tucker resurfaces.

00:28:07.580 He will crush your numbers again and you'll be just as bitter as you are now with just as

00:28:12.780 few people watching.

00:28:14.400 It's only a matter of time before this guy, Seth Meyers gets pulled from the air.

00:28:18.860 The only reason that they still have their hours, notwithstanding these dreadful ratings

00:28:23.460 is because there, there's still the hangover from Trump.

00:28:26.420 They did their duty during Trump.

00:28:28.060 They changed from comedy into political assassins.

00:28:30.540 And there was a market from that.

00:28:31.860 But at some point the, these businesses need to make money and it's not happening with Jimmy

00:28:36.180 Kimmel.

00:28:36.440 I think, I think that those late night political shows, it really, it was, it was actually sad.

00:28:42.220 I mean, yeah, it's pathetic, but it's sad because for comedians, it's like they're making,

00:28:46.660 you know, hostage proof of life videos every night, you know, comedians are supposed to

00:28:51.400 be pushing boundaries, you know, smashing sacred cows, you know, doing things that are, are on

00:28:59.400 that edge.

00:29:00.160 And they became, they became really like the conformist political Stasi, you know, they 0.94

00:29:05.720 were the ones that were the same tired Trump jokes every night, the same BS jokes about,

00:29:11.580 you know, Republicans and guns and, and Bibles and all this stuff.

00:29:15.020 And it just was increasingly pathetic.

00:29:16.520 And I think that for comedians in particular, you know, I, I think that there was a time when

00:29:21.280 someone like Jimmy Kimmel was trying to be funny, like in back in the day with Carolla on

00:29:25.600 the man show, um, things like that.

00:29:27.540 I think that, you know, he, he was a comedian, he's not a comedian anymore.

00:29:30.800 So I think that there's a sense from some of them of, of like tremendous resentment at

00:29:37.400 their present circumstances, because they don't want to admit that they've essentially, uh,

00:29:42.900 betrayed their craft.

00:29:44.360 I mean, they have given up what they're supposed to really be, which is a source of levity,

00:29:48.720 entertainment, and even insight, uh, as comedians.

00:29:51.960 And instead they just became, as you said, uh, political hit men.

00:29:54.940 And same for Jon Stewart, you know, he, he used to be acerbic, but he used to make people

00:30:00.740 laugh.

00:30:01.360 Now he's just a nasty, bitter guy who hates everybody who doesn't share his own worldview.

00:30:06.360 Okay.

00:30:06.900 I guess there's a market, very small market for that, but good luck.

00:30:10.780 Yeah.

00:30:11.080 You know, like making, making jokes and everything else back in the day was something that he

00:30:15.380 could do pretty well.

00:30:16.180 He's not as smart as he thinks he is.

00:30:17.540 A lot of these comedians, they get used to having a big audience and a lot of influence

00:30:20.440 because of the jokes, but if you're really going to play with the big boys, that was

00:30:24.060 the thing about Stewart that even in his heyday, I was found very, a little bit off

00:30:27.960 putting, like I watched, I watched the show.

00:30:29.600 So I was somebody who, you know, I thought that the Jon Stewart show when I was in college

00:30:33.580 was funny, a daily show.

00:30:35.380 Um, but there was a, I think Kevin Williamson of national review called it once clown knows

00:30:39.920 on clown knows off where, you know, it's all jokes and then, and then it's like, well,

00:30:45.880 let's talk about why you're in climate denial and you're like climate denial.

00:30:49.100 Are you a lunatic?

00:30:50.020 Like, do you really think the world's going to end?

00:30:51.180 It's like, Oh, I'm just a comedian.

00:30:52.480 You know, I just make the ha ha.

00:30:54.980 That's the part of it that always sort of, at least back then he could bring you the

00:30:58.200 ha ha every once in a while.

00:30:59.340 No, he was good at the ha ha.

00:31:00.820 Now he's good at nothing.

00:31:01.460 Now he's like an angry man who's like completely racist against white people who don't share

00:31:07.580 the black lives matter by all this stuff.

00:31:09.700 You know, it's like, he's become one of those totally woke activist liberals who thinks we

00:31:13.480 need to coddle black people and that if you're not so in support of quote trans rights, then 0.78

00:31:18.120 you're a bigot and he will lecture you because he, you know, his white privilege and that

00:31:21.700 entitles him to wait, what?

00:31:23.700 All right.

00:31:23.960 Let me pause it there.

00:31:24.900 We're going to squeeze in a quick break.

00:31:26.080 When we come back, we've got to talk about quite a few things.

00:31:28.440 I want to get to Randy Weingarten and I want to get to why president Biden did not remember

00:31:33.080 that he was in Ireland like two minutes ago.

00:31:35.660 More with Buck Sexton right after this.

00:31:38.000 Before we get to Randy, I've got to start with President Biden, who like literally what

00:31:47.580 10 days ago was in Ireland and was asked by a child because he only takes questions from

00:31:53.440 children now.

00:31:55.900 He needed the help from a child, but he was, well, I'll just show it.

00:31:59.100 You watch.

00:31:59.640 The clip speaks for itself.

00:32:01.520 Watch.

00:32:02.280 The last country I've traveled, I'm thinking once for the last one I was in.

00:32:05.820 And I, I've been to 89, I met with 89 heads of state so far.

00:32:12.500 So I'm trying to think what was the last, where was the last place I was?

00:32:15.700 It's hard to keep track.

00:32:18.840 I was, I mean, yeah, you're right.

00:32:21.200 Ireland.

00:32:22.700 That's where it was.

00:32:25.160 How'd you know that?

00:32:27.140 Oh my God.

00:32:28.000 How did you not know that?

00:32:30.660 Buck.

00:32:31.060 Oh, that Biden is 80 and an old 82, you know, he's somebody who is, uh, not at the peak

00:32:42.340 of performance, even for his, his demo.

00:32:44.680 You think?

00:32:45.100 Uh, I, yeah.

00:32:46.580 Um, I, I, I have to say this is, this is actually telling us a lot about the Democrat party mindset

00:32:53.240 these days and what, what I call the, the apparatus and how it functions.

00:32:57.800 I do not believe that there's really any significant number of Democrats, uh, out there

00:33:03.620 who won't vote for Biden again.

00:33:06.800 Um, and I also think that they would be willing to vote for Joe Biden again in the same numbers.

00:33:12.380 If we got to the point where, um, they had to like roll him out with a blanket across

00:33:18.020 his knees and he was kind of muttering nonsense.

00:33:19.820 Like they just don't care.

00:33:21.040 Uh, there's a recklessness and a ruthlessness in the way they approach all of this and how

00:33:26.500 they just want to maintain power.

00:33:28.640 So I thought maybe it was too much for them in the Democrat primary in 2020 to put this

00:33:34.840 guy forward, but I was wrong.

00:33:36.200 So I, now I will never underestimate their ruthlessness again.

00:33:39.920 And that was why with the whole Fetterman thing, I was trying to raise the alarm.

00:33:43.320 I was like, uh, they don't care.

00:33:44.760 They don't care that John Fetterman, for example, had had a severe stroke, was having trouble

00:33:49.480 speaking, which was really based in trouble and cognition because of what was going on

00:33:53.300 in his brain.

00:33:53.760 And as we know, he just went into, uh, you know, hospitalized depression therapy for

00:33:59.180 something like six weeks.

00:34:00.700 Um, this is just all about having Democrats.

00:34:03.320 It's like voting for a brand.

00:34:04.560 It's like voting for a machinery.

00:34:06.040 And so they're perfectly comfortable with Joe Biden being a buffoon and well, he's always

00:34:12.280 been a buffoon, uh, but being somebody who on top of that is really not capable of thinking

00:34:17.320 things through and remembering things and having senior moments.

00:34:20.160 And this is the same group that tells us over and over who played the soundbite the other

00:34:23.040 day.

00:34:23.180 He's fine.

00:34:23.680 You can't even keep up with him.

00:34:24.660 He's amazing.

00:34:25.680 He's the most fit cognitively and otherwise in the white house, which of course we know 0.72

00:34:30.380 are lies and the, and the same group that then acts shocked and horrified at all the

00:34:35.140 lies from Trump and Trump 100% tells lies.

00:34:38.380 I'm not saying he doesn't, but you've got people like Sam Harris, who I like on here

00:34:42.200 saying there's no comparison.

00:34:44.020 There's no comparison to say sort of Trump versus Biden.

00:34:46.900 And it's not just Biden though.

00:34:48.340 It's Biden and the Democrat party.

00:34:50.520 And that's what leads me to Randy Weingarten, who, I mean, this week has been the liar in

00:34:54.180 chief.

00:34:54.540 I mean, the biggest, boldest faced lies we've heard publicly.

00:34:58.600 I have to say in a long, long time, it was very, very just ambitious in, in its deceit

00:35:07.440 level.

00:35:07.980 So she just got the audience caught up.

00:35:10.600 She, uh, she actually testified before Congress this week.

00:35:13.820 She's the head of the American federations of teachers, uh, union, and she actually testified.

00:35:18.600 We, the union wanted to be in school.

00:35:21.700 I've said that over and over again, teachers wanted to be in school.

00:35:25.660 They knew that in-school learning was important, but they needed it to be safe.

00:35:31.420 We needed both teachers to be safe and kids to be safe and went on from there.

00:35:36.900 I mean, complete revisionist history.

00:35:39.780 Now, before I get to the sound of the day, I'll tell you this, uh, we did go back and

00:35:45.040 just pulled a couple of examples.

00:35:47.080 Here she was in July of 2020, looking at whether we'd be opening up anywhere in September.

00:35:53.020 Uh, Betsy DeVos wanted schools to open. 1.00

00:35:56.320 She was the education secretary and Weingarten said, if Trump and DeVos want to create chaos

00:36:01.500 and want, uh, they will jeopardize reopening.

00:36:04.160 She says, this is reckless.

00:36:05.940 This is callous.

00:36:07.260 This is cruel.

00:36:08.460 The call to reopen the schools, their, their recklessness scared people so much that now

00:36:12.520 I fear a brain drain of people basically opting out of teaching.

00:36:16.000 They don't want to jeopardize their families.

00:36:18.260 Fast forward later in the pandemic.

00:36:19.440 Maybe she saw the light when we had some months behind us.

00:36:22.300 Nope.

00:36:23.100 Um, August of 2020, she said, huge judge strikes down Florida's school reopening order. 0.56

00:36:29.960 Celebratory.

00:36:30.600 So glad there not won't be reopening, uh, schools in August.

00:36:33.760 Let's fast forward for six months or so, February, 2021.

00:36:38.400 Um, she claimed what that, what she needed was just a bit more time to bring her rank and 0.99

00:36:42.460 file along with her quote.

00:36:43.380 I'm confident that we will overcome the fear, but it's not going to happen in two and a half

00:36:49.600 nanoseconds.

00:36:51.180 This is February, 2021.

00:36:54.360 This is a year into the pandemic.

00:36:57.020 And she still was saying we can't open.

00:36:59.660 Now she wants us to believe she was behind reopening the whole time, which leads me to this extraordinary

00:37:06.400 moment on CNN.

00:37:07.360 She, I don't know if you've seen this today, but she went on CNN and a senior political

00:37:12.560 commentator, Scott Jennings was sitting at the table with her and said what so many millions

00:37:17.540 of Americans would have liked to say.

00:37:20.260 Watch this.

00:37:21.820 What?

00:37:22.740 Yeah.

00:37:23.160 Um, we don't know each other, but speaking on behalf of millions of American parents,

00:37:28.460 I have four at home.

00:37:30.340 I had to teach them at home.

00:37:31.600 My wife had to teach them at home. 0.98

00:37:32.780 I am stunned at what you have said this week about your claiming to have wanted to reopen

00:37:41.280 schools.

00:37:41.840 I think most, you'll find that most parents believe you were the tip of the spear of school

00:37:46.180 closures.

00:37:46.760 There are numerous statements you made over the summer of 20, scaring people to death about

00:37:52.180 the possibility of opening schools.

00:37:54.380 And I hear no remorse whatsoever about the generational damage that's been done to these kids.

00:37:59.880 I have two kids with learning differences.

00:38:01.340 Do you know how hard it is for them to learn at home and not in a classroom that was designed

00:38:06.020 for them?

00:38:07.500 And for you to sit in front of Congress and the American people and say, oh, I wanted to

00:38:13.380 open them the whole time.

00:38:15.100 I am shocked.

00:38:16.560 I'm stunned.

00:38:17.640 I'm stunned.

00:38:18.240 And there are millions of parents who feel the exact same way.

00:38:21.640 I knew and understood the importance of reopening schools and the importance of making sure

00:38:29.300 that people were safe.

00:38:30.800 And poll after poll that we did of parents, and I spent a lot of time with parents, said

00:38:37.040 that they basically understood and supported that we needed to do both.

00:38:41.380 I'm really sorry about your kids.

00:38:42.540 You think parents wanted to keep the kids?

00:38:44.480 Nobody wanted to.

00:38:45.380 You think parents support you?

00:38:46.060 You think parents support you?

00:38:47.100 You think parents support you?

00:38:47.220 You think parents support you?

00:38:48.100 You think parents support you?

00:38:49.100 You think parents support you in keeping kids?

00:38:49.660 It's insane.

00:38:50.860 It's insane.

00:38:51.580 So I call Randy Weingarten the chief education commissar because her job is not, has nothing to do

00:39:01.960 with your kids and making sure your kids are educated.

00:39:04.460 She is a part of the political apparatus of the Democrat Party, representing the adults

00:39:11.320 in the teachers unions who are a massive source of Democrat political power, both through

00:39:18.640 donations and through the mobilization they do for voting.

00:39:23.340 So Randy Weingarten is on this issue.

00:39:26.440 And I don't like to get angry at people or individuals.

00:39:29.520 I like to debate ideas.

00:39:30.960 She's an insidious liar. 1.00

00:39:32.460 She's a disgrace. 1.00

00:39:33.240 The Biden White House and all the people around him who push for school closures, they did

00:39:39.760 this because they could get away with it.

00:39:43.240 And they did it for the adults who were either too paranoid and or too lazy to do their jobs

00:39:50.860 when it was clear that, first of all, everybody was going to get COVID and they should have

00:39:55.560 figured that out pretty early on.

00:39:56.680 That's a whole other conversation because everyone did get COVID.

00:39:59.460 But beyond that, including all the kids, none of the kids were prevented from getting

00:40:03.580 COVID.

00:40:03.940 This was completely insane.

00:40:05.320 COVID wasn't a risk to children.

00:40:07.620 But why was it that, you know, the, you know, EMS and fire and my grocery store clerk, the

00:40:13.820 guy who worked at CVS, they were all going into their jobs.

00:40:16.400 They were going into their jobs in April and May of 2020.

00:40:20.420 But for teachers, it was too dangerous.

00:40:23.100 You know, they really, by the way, to do this, part of it was the completely false proposition

00:40:28.640 that they forwarded that like children were the we're going to be spread.

00:40:31.740 It turns out children actually don't spread this to adults very readily at all.

00:40:35.440 And there's so much misinformation all along.

00:40:37.720 But Randy, Randy had special scientific knowledge.

00:40:40.380 Buck, you may not have understood that.

00:40:41.940 She went on in her testimony to say this.

00:40:45.740 Listen to this.

00:40:46.260 It's SOT7.

00:40:47.620 We knew that remote education was not a substitute for opening schools, but we also knew that people

00:40:55.040 had to be safe.

00:40:55.980 And maybe it's because I live in New York City.

00:40:59.880 I live near a hospital.

00:41:02.120 Every other minute there was an ambulance.

00:41:05.580 There was terror.

00:41:06.840 Our members were terrified.

00:41:08.680 Others were terrified.

00:41:09.760 And what we were simply looking for was clear scientific guidance.

00:41:16.240 And when we couldn't get it, we did it ourselves.

00:41:20.140 They did it themselves, Buck.

00:41:21.760 It was all the scary ambulances.

00:41:23.400 Hello.

00:41:23.840 I lived in New York for 17 years.

00:41:26.520 You see here ambulances all the time, in part because they don't fight crime anymore.

00:41:30.940 People are getting shot.

00:41:31.980 It's not because they were running to get all the kids who got COVID in schools.

00:41:36.000 They wanted teachers to have a taxpayer-funded, long-term, longer than just the summer vacation,

00:41:43.620 paid leave at home.

00:41:44.840 That's all this was.

00:41:46.220 This was just a straight-up power play.

00:41:47.620 Randy Weingarten was 100% involved with the Biden administration in crafting, and little

00:41:53.100 Fauci, too.

00:41:54.140 They all play this game.

00:41:55.620 They push for something, and they go to the levers of power, and they push toward lockdowns.

00:42:01.340 They push toward these crazy rules.

00:42:02.920 And then they say, oh, I didn't do it.

00:42:04.480 It was some other person who did it.

00:42:06.000 No, especially with the teachers thing, by the way.

00:42:08.200 We knew in the summer of 2020 that schools should be open.

00:42:13.040 Sweden kept schools open and had already opened schools.

00:42:15.940 We had already looked at the data.

00:42:17.000 You could see countries where it was clearly no risk to children.

00:42:21.020 And the adults, it's not like you have a lot of 75-year-olds who are teaching third grade,

00:42:25.060 Megan.

00:42:25.300 This was crazy.

00:42:26.120 They never had any basis for this whatsoever, other than it was advantageous to Joe Biden

00:42:31.800 in 2020 because of the climate of fear.

00:42:34.320 They figured, keep everybody terrified.

00:42:35.860 They'll vote for old man Biden in the basement, which is what they did.

00:42:39.260 And then beyond that, they realized, oh, we can just play a Zoom lesson and stay at home

00:42:44.220 and get our full pay and benefits and do nothing all the time.

00:42:47.080 The only people who are as bad in my mind in terms of the rank and file as the teachers

00:42:53.120 who were so excited to stay home were the airline attendants who were so excited to threaten

00:42:57.180 to kick everybody off the airline forever for letting the mask slip beneath their noses.

00:43:00.920 But no one was worse than the Chicago Teachers Union.

00:43:04.280 They don't care about your kids. 0.99

00:43:05.860 Remember them?

00:43:06.300 They just don't.

00:43:07.160 Oh, of course.

00:43:08.240 We don't do Teachers Union stories without running this video.

00:43:11.420 These are the people who are so desperate to reopen the schools.

00:43:13.860 Remember their interpretive dance, showing us how these totally fit and able-bodied teachers

00:43:18.600 couldn't possibly go back into the classroom.

00:43:21.100 Cue it up.

00:43:24.960 Make it make sense.

00:43:30.600 Safety is essential.

00:43:35.560 Oh, my God.

00:43:37.260 Keep our students and our teachers safe.

00:43:43.860 These women are in their 30s. 0.99

00:43:47.540 These are the people who were desperate, desperate to reopen.

00:43:51.700 And by the way, on Randy's lies, Buck, we all know that the reason that the CDC modified

00:43:58.400 its guidance on when you could open or close schools was because of Randy.

00:44:03.160 She admitted that she was BFFs with Rochelle Walensky, that other hysteric who was running 0.99

00:44:10.020 the CDC, here's SOT 9.

00:44:13.440 Do not talk to representatives of the government.

00:44:19.080 Do you have a direct number to Director Walensky?

00:44:22.220 Do I have Director Walensky's direct number?

00:44:25.020 Yes.

00:44:25.360 Yes, I have Director Walensky's direct number.

00:44:27.940 Well, hopefully she'll give it to me, too.

00:44:30.160 Thank you.

00:44:31.020 And I yield back.

00:44:31.700 Yeah, we get it.

00:44:34.660 What they did to children with the lockdowns, the shutdowns of the schools, obviously, as

00:44:42.180 part of that, the masking of children, it was child abuse.

00:44:46.600 It was monstrous.

00:44:48.020 This became highly, highly, highly partisan.

00:44:50.420 We know this because there were Republicans.

00:44:52.060 And I'm here in Florida.

00:44:52.800 I moved to Florida.

00:44:53.640 God bless Ron DeSantis.

00:44:54.760 He looked at the data.

00:44:55.920 The data was very clear that schools should be open.

00:44:58.800 And the data was clear, really, by May of 2020, you could argue even sooner than that.

00:45:04.500 But there was absolutely no basis.

00:45:06.180 They kept the school shut for, you know, the 2020 to 2021 school year.

00:45:10.080 And then some of them kept it, were trying to close it even beyond that.

00:45:13.780 So what you see here, and, you know, this is also, it's enraging because I know parents

00:45:19.180 that have special needs kids who are the ones who are the most harmed by this, parents of

00:45:26.160 children, you know, who are low-income households, the people that the teachers, oh, by the way,

00:45:31.140 I've sat on, like, I've seen Randy Weingart before, and, you know, years ago, I interviewed

00:45:35.480 about something.

00:45:36.040 It's always about the children.

00:45:37.760 She doesn't give squat about the children, okay?

00:45:40.480 She's a Democrat hack. 1.00

00:45:42.200 The teachers' unions, honestly, should all be disbanded.

00:45:44.900 That's a whole other conversation because they don't care about your kids. 0.95

00:45:48.260 They are thuggish.

00:45:49.480 They are Democrat shock troops.

00:45:51.860 They're trying to raise money and trying to make sure that you don't have any accountability

00:45:56.040 in the public school system in these Democrats strongholds in cities all across the country.

00:46:00.260 But what they did was child abuse.

00:46:01.440 You know, I had a speech impediment, Megan, when I was a kid.

00:46:03.940 I had to get speech therapy for years.

00:46:06.180 The kids who needed the help the most, and by the way, the masking thing, as we all know,

00:46:10.400 was horrible for kids who need to be able to-

00:46:12.240 And even Fauci's admitted now, maybe it helps at the margins, maybe 10%.

00:46:16.300 That's it.

00:46:17.040 And that's not, that's not even, and by the way, that's not even true.

00:46:19.240 They just keep walking it back slowly because of the mask lunatics. 0.72

00:46:22.520 But honestly, every single parent in the country who didn't hold Democrats accountable just

00:46:27.200 over the school lockdown issue, they should look in the mirror.

00:46:29.680 I don't know what to say to them.

00:46:30.760 I mean, this, I am legitimately furious that Fauci, who is probably the worst person in the

00:46:37.400 country in terms of policy that results in misery, destruction, and despair, that they

00:46:42.740 just let this stuff go.

00:46:43.720 It was a little Fauci, Walensky, Randy Weingarten apparatus of evil and child abuse and economic

00:46:50.900 and psychological devastation with no health benefit whatsoever, none.

00:46:55.720 And Biden's running around saying, if you won't get the shot, you're like a menace to

00:46:59.060 society and should be treated as, you know, typhoid Mary. 1.00

00:47:01.920 And get fired.

00:47:02.920 It is appalling what they did.

00:47:04.260 Appalling what they did.

00:47:05.540 What she said there was so indicative and triggering of what we all went through with them.

00:47:10.520 Remember Rochelle Walensky, like crying, like, I just have this impending sense of doom.

00:47:15.940 And then you hear Randy Weingarten, like you say, with a scrunched up face.

00:47:19.820 Like, I lived in New York, too.

00:47:21.240 I guarantee you, she's probably my old neighbor on the Upper West Side. 0.97

00:47:25.060 You know, it was just the terror.

00:47:27.440 It was the terror.

00:47:29.140 Fuck you and your terror.

00:47:30.560 You terrorized our children.

00:47:32.440 I don't care about your mental health issues unless they affect me. 0.88

00:47:36.900 And they did.

00:47:37.760 They affected an entire nation full of schoolchildren.

00:47:40.320 And they're still not sorry.

00:47:42.560 And she's still in control, as is Walensky.

00:47:46.160 OK, Fauci, he's fired, but he's not disgraced.

00:47:48.820 He's not fired.

00:47:49.320 He retired, but he's not disgraced.

00:47:51.580 They're still they're still running these these operations.

00:47:54.780 And the American people had the chance to elect new leaders.

00:47:58.160 And they have another chance in 2024 to elect somebody who could possibly get rid of these

00:48:02.480 people or at least not be influenced by them.

00:48:04.800 And, Buck, the polls are very uncertain.

00:48:06.960 It doesn't look like they're necessarily inclined to do it.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, I'm I'm never going to let this go, by the way.

00:48:14.080 I just I've made this statement to my audience, to my friends and family, the people that did

00:48:18.500 this.

00:48:18.960 I will never forgive them.

00:48:20.060 I will never forget it.

00:48:21.360 And I will continue to push because they're going to try to rewrite Soviet style, the history 0.99

00:48:24.980 of the pandemic in every way that they can.

00:48:26.880 They are child abusing, hysteric, lunatic totalitarians.

00:48:30.640 And it was it became very clear this was the Democrat playbook.

00:48:34.000 The Democrat Party should be held responsible for this.

00:48:36.440 And I am so furious about it.

00:48:38.440 But I do enjoy very much talking to you, Megan.

00:48:40.320 So thank you for letting me hang out.

00:48:42.780 And we'll get to the story another day.

00:48:44.660 I didn't even give you the questions in advance, like the L.A.

00:48:47.000 Times appears to have done with Joe Biden.

00:48:49.920 That was all off the cuff for you.

00:48:52.220 Indeed.

00:48:53.140 Radio stuff.

00:48:54.440 Thanks, Buck Sexton.

00:48:54.960 Always a pleasure.

00:48:55.960 We're going to be right back with the high school volleyball player who was severely injured

00:49:01.420 by that trans player.

00:49:03.180 Now, she's decided to speak out about her injuries and about the fact that they made her play

00:49:07.600 against a biological male.

00:49:08.980 And guess what?

00:49:09.640 That biological male is doing.

00:49:10.940 That so-called trans player trolling her.

00:49:13.980 We'll bring you that guest and the update next.

00:49:19.780 Our next guest is high school volleyball player Peyton McNabb.

00:49:24.020 She suffered severe head and neck injuries this past fall when a transgender athlete spiked 1.00

00:49:29.280 a volleyball that hit her in the face.

00:49:32.760 This month, Peyton decided to speak out about her experience to encourage lawmakers to take

00:49:37.760 action to keep biological males out of girls' sports. 1.00

00:49:42.680 Peyton, welcome to the show.

00:49:44.600 Hi.

00:49:45.100 Thank you so much for having me.

00:49:46.940 Oh, it's my pleasure.

00:49:47.840 All right.

00:49:48.020 So how old are you?

00:49:49.940 I'm 18.

00:49:51.140 18.

00:49:51.620 All right.

00:49:51.860 And were you 17 or 18 when this injury occurred?

00:49:55.460 I was 17.

00:49:56.900 All right.

00:49:57.180 And where did you grow up?

00:49:58.140 Where were you going to school?

00:50:00.580 So I currently go to Hawa C.D.

00:50:03.040 I'm high school in Murphy, North Carolina, but I'll be graduating this spring.

00:50:08.900 And were you a volleyball player for most of your life or did you come to it, you know,

00:50:13.460 just in high school?

00:50:15.380 I played all throughout middle school and high school.

00:50:18.640 And were you good?

00:50:19.780 I mean, how was your how are you and how was your team?

00:50:23.040 We were pretty we're pretty average.

00:50:25.060 I mean, we we had good players, though.

00:50:28.000 I was on varsity for three years out of my four.

00:50:30.640 OK, now explain volleyball to me.

00:50:32.940 Is it like I have a daughter who plays soccer and generally you get a position in soccer and

00:50:37.460 you play that position?

00:50:38.680 Is it the same in volleyball or can you go to any one of the spots if you make the team?

00:50:42.380 Um, they'll try to put you in a certain spot.

00:50:46.680 For example, I was a setter.

00:50:49.020 So because I am a lot shorter than everybody else.

00:50:52.320 So I just set the ball up for our power hitters. 0.79

00:50:56.440 And that's that was my job was.

00:50:58.820 OK, and so you'd been playing against other schools, I assume, from it for all the times

00:51:04.560 you were on the varsity squad.

00:51:06.180 Yes.

00:51:06.720 All right.

00:51:06.980 So now you there comes this time when you're going to play against this other team that

00:51:10.360 has a trans player.

00:51:11.500 What was the name of that school?

00:51:13.080 Um, Highlands High School.

00:51:14.460 And did you know that there was a trans player at Highland High School?

00:51:19.000 We were aware.

00:51:20.260 Um, we've known since we're the same age.

00:51:24.340 So we've known since their freshman year.

00:51:27.220 Um, but we it's a conference team.

00:51:30.300 So we had to play them.

00:51:31.960 We couldn't just refuse the game.

00:51:33.820 So we went into the game knowing that it was a transgender athlete.

00:51:38.280 And was there any concern at that point going into the game?

00:51:42.360 Yeah, there was.

00:51:43.220 We knew that we couldn't really play back.

00:51:47.520 Um, they hit it so hard that we didn't really know.

00:51:51.760 We weren't used to taking hits that hard.

00:51:54.060 So it was difficult for us from the beginning.

00:51:57.680 So you knew that this person was going to have extra firepower because it's it's obviously

00:52:04.100 it's a biological boy.

00:52:05.240 This is not a biological girl.

00:52:07.040 He's going to have who went through male puberty, as I understand it, with, you know, longer

00:52:10.740 limbs and stronger muscles.

00:52:13.220 Yes.

00:52:14.320 Do you know any background on the trans player, like when they transitioned, et cetera?

00:52:19.200 Um, I don't I don't know any of their like, you know, life or anything.

00:52:23.920 But I just know, uh, cause they had to tell all the schools when they started playing.

00:52:30.960 So our school knew.

00:52:32.760 And does this person, it described as person's physical appearance.

00:52:36.720 They're a lot taller.

00:52:38.540 Um, they're a lot.

00:52:40.400 I mean, obviously stronger.

00:52:43.020 Looks looks just like it doesn't look.

00:52:45.400 It's not like Leah Thomas.

00:52:47.420 They do look more like a girl. 0.83

00:52:49.540 Mm hmm.

00:52:50.140 So more like a girl, but identifiable as a biological male.

00:52:55.220 Yes.

00:52:56.240 Okay.

00:52:57.040 So did you were you at all afraid going into this match or did you feel like I'm it'll be

00:53:02.440 fine?

00:53:03.140 I was afraid.

00:53:04.120 I was, um, I know a lot of the girls where I was just kind of used to it because it was

00:53:08.860 my fourth year.

00:53:09.820 But I knew all the younger players that were really scared, but they just knew that they

00:53:15.100 had to play.

00:53:16.120 So.

00:53:16.560 So you've played against this team and this particular player in the past.

00:53:20.740 Yes, ma'am.

00:53:22.040 Okay.

00:53:22.520 And nobody got hurt.

00:53:24.500 No.

00:53:25.640 But of course, this person like you is aging, is getting older and stronger and growing into

00:53:32.200 what is a biologically male body as you go into your biologically female adult body.

00:53:39.820 Uh, as you get older.

00:53:40.780 So what happened in the game when you got hurt?

00:53:43.480 Walk us through the moment.

00:53:45.120 So, um, I was hit and everything went black.

00:53:49.920 Um, my teammates and coaches said I was unconscious for about 30 seconds while my team was huddling

00:53:56.820 around me.

00:53:57.720 The opposing team was laughing.

00:54:01.180 Um, but when I came back to consciousness, a trainer took me to the sign lines and checked

00:54:08.340 me for a concussion and told me I was fine and could go back in.

00:54:13.700 But luckily my coach didn't let me go back in.

00:54:17.300 Hmm.

00:54:18.000 Well, how are you?

00:54:18.860 Do you remember how you were feeling?

00:54:19.880 I was really, um, my adrenaline was really hot and I was really, I don't know, I just

00:54:27.280 didn't know what to think.

00:54:28.780 I was really angry, but I was just hoping that it wouldn't happen to anyone else after

00:54:36.380 I was out.

00:54:37.600 Did they pull the trans athlete, the other school, the other team?

00:54:41.620 No, they didn't.

00:54:42.300 So this person continued playing against your teammates, even after you were hurt?

00:54:46.900 Yes.

00:54:47.940 What was the reaction in the stands with the parents?

00:54:50.560 You know, I go to these games all the time with my kids.

00:54:52.580 I feel like there would have been a revolt by the parents.

00:54:56.000 Everyone went silent and no one really knew what to do.

00:55:00.300 There is a scream in the video.

00:55:03.340 Um, my parents weren't there.

00:55:05.360 Actually, that was the only game they didn't go to.

00:55:07.020 But my grandma was there and she, um, she was just so upset.

00:55:13.060 She came down to the court and made sure I was okay.

00:55:16.620 Everyone just kind of didn't know what to say.

00:55:18.380 It was really awkward.

00:55:20.220 We do have video of the moment, which I'll play for the watching audience.

00:55:23.640 Forgive me.

00:55:24.020 You don't need to look at it if it's upsetting to you, but I just want to show them what

00:55:27.300 happened.

00:55:28.460 You're on the, that's the trans player that we have the green circle around spiking the 1.00

00:55:32.780 ball right into your face and down you go.

00:55:35.580 So the trans players, obviously larger, very power, powerful spike. 1.00

00:55:40.740 And I mean, it doesn't look like you even had a chance to, to respond to that.

00:55:45.180 I mean, looking back, do you feel like you did?

00:55:47.700 Was there any chance of you to defend that ball?

00:55:50.640 No.

00:55:51.480 Um, a lot of people say that there was, and I should have protected myself better, but

00:55:56.100 I had, I seriously had no time to even think of that.

00:56:01.040 Do you, when you watch that back now, is it upsetting to you?

00:56:03.660 How does it make you feel?

00:56:06.320 Um, yeah, it's upsetting, but I think I've seen it so much.

00:56:09.660 I've kind of just got used to it.

00:56:12.920 Right.

00:56:13.540 I think our society has kind of gotten used to it, which we, we cannot.

00:56:17.180 And that's one of the reasons it's so important.

00:56:18.780 You're speaking out.

00:56:20.140 So I'm going to get to your testimony this week and what you're doing to make some good,

00:56:24.360 some positive impact from all this.

00:56:25.940 But talk about your recovery.

00:56:27.720 Cause you know, you get hurt in sport.

00:56:29.640 You think, okay, that was unfortunate.

00:56:31.340 And then you kind of move on.

00:56:32.820 You, you were not able to really just move on.

00:56:36.020 No, I, I was out for the rest of my volleyball season.

00:56:40.360 Um, uh, came back like halfway through my basketball or a little bit in my basketball, but it wasn't the same as it has been the last three years.

00:56:53.460 Um, and I was really, I just wasn't playing like I used to.

00:56:58.860 Um, but healing has been really slow.

00:57:02.620 I've been trying to heal and take my time with it so I can get a hundred percent back.

00:57:08.660 But it's hard because, you know, I want to still do things and, um, have fun and stuff.

00:57:16.360 So what are the lingering effects?

00:57:18.440 This happened in September, this past September.

00:57:20.540 Now here we are chatting at the end of April.

00:57:24.300 What are the lasting effects from what happened to you?

00:57:28.420 I have impaired vision.

00:57:30.200 So I have to, I had to get my glasses, uh, redone.

00:57:34.140 I have partial paralysis on my right side.

00:57:38.760 So my right side lags slightly.

00:57:43.040 Um, I, I have really bad headaches and, but not as bad, but they just, they've getting, they're getting better.

00:57:50.940 But, uh, I do have bad headaches.

00:57:53.020 I have to have accommodations at school and test in separate rooms and get extra help when that's never been a problem before.

00:58:01.560 And just different things like that.

00:58:03.340 So how has this affected you emotionally?

00:58:07.340 It has given me, um, I was really depressed.

00:58:10.820 I had a really long depressive episode and I have anxiety now.

00:58:18.160 Um, but you know, I'm, I'm trying to get better from it, but it has affected me, you know, mentally and emotionally.

00:58:25.920 What were you feeling depressed about?

00:58:28.700 It was, it was, it was just really sad because this is my last year and it was nothing like I imagined it was going to be.

00:58:36.500 Everything changed.

00:58:38.040 I can't do things that, you know, I've had no problem doing in the past.

00:58:42.960 And it just was really hard for me to accept.

00:58:46.980 This became a national news story pretty soon after it happened.

00:58:52.180 Did the person who hurt you ever reach out to you and say, my God, I'm so sorry.

00:58:58.960 They did reach out about a week ago, um, for the first time ever, and there was no remorse.

00:59:08.000 So it wasn't an apology or anything.

00:59:09.920 It was kind of just a little hateful comment, but that's, that's the only time they've directly reached out to me.

00:59:17.460 I understand there was a message to the effect of, I, I appear to be renting space in your head.

00:59:23.800 Yes.

00:59:25.100 I'm living rent free in your head.

00:59:27.740 Yes, that's, that's what it was.

00:59:30.080 So no remorse whatsoever.

00:59:32.320 No.

00:59:33.420 And this person never reached out to you between September and now at all to say, I'm sorry, or are you okay?

00:59:40.300 Nope, not at all.

00:59:42.600 That is unbelievable.

00:59:44.100 That's like, when you talk about this with your parents, I feel like the parents would be like, what the hell?

00:59:49.780 We're not only should the trans person be reaching out, but the parents should be reaching out.

00:59:54.060 The school, all of them should be reaching out to make sure you're okay to offer help with your medical bills and to make sure this doesn't happen again.

01:00:00.540 None of that happened.

01:00:02.980 No.

01:00:04.980 Wow.

01:00:06.100 That is just a disappointment on a human level.

01:00:09.140 And the one reach out is a snarky comment after you went on Fox News with Laura.

01:00:14.460 Yeah.

01:00:15.860 Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.

01:00:18.140 This is not the way for, for trans people to get others to be more open-minded to their participation in sport. 0.97

01:00:26.440 But you know what?

01:00:27.180 We shouldn't be open-minded because it shouldn't happen.

01:00:28.820 And this is the perfect example of why.

01:00:31.040 So you ultimately decide, oh, can I ask you first before we get to your new activism, which is great.

01:00:37.260 Was there any backlash against you?

01:00:39.800 Sometimes in these stories, people turn against the victim.

01:00:44.540 Surprisingly, there has been an overwhelming support.

01:00:48.500 Everyone that I live around, they've all been so supportive.

01:00:54.100 And there's been so many people reach out and be really, really, really nice and kind.

01:01:00.360 There has been some hate, I guess.

01:01:05.080 But everything they say, they don't actually know what happened.

01:01:09.040 And so they're just kind of going for me and calling me transphobic and, like, hateful and things like that.

01:01:16.360 But that's not what I'm doing at all.

01:01:19.680 You know, like, if you want to be any of those things, like, that is your business.

01:01:24.740 And no one's saying you can't do that.

01:01:26.940 It's just trying to protect women and women's sports. 1.00

01:01:30.760 Did that come after you spoke out publicly about it or while you were just still suffering silently and privately?

01:01:36.300 After I spoke out.

01:01:39.780 Yeah, God forbid you actually use your voice to say, I have a few objections to this setup.

01:01:44.840 So you have managed to find your voice.

01:01:46.840 Was that difficult?

01:01:47.780 Or were you scared to, like, because now there's this bill in North Carolina to try to keep biological boys out of girls' sports, 1.00

01:01:55.080 which seems like the perfect opportunity for you to say, I would like to comment.

01:02:01.860 Was it scary?

01:02:02.940 Because it's always easier just to be quiet.

01:02:06.300 Yeah, it was really scary.

01:02:09.160 I'm not used to doing this stuff at all.

01:02:12.680 But, you know, I thought it would be so wasteful not to use my story to try to do something good from it.

01:02:21.860 So, you know, I don't want my sister to have to deal with this anymore.

01:02:26.460 I don't want my, the rest of my family, my teammates, my future daughters,

01:02:31.320 I don't want them to ever have to even think about this stuff.

01:02:36.380 Good for you.

01:02:37.440 You're fighting for my daughter, too, right now.

01:02:39.880 So you go before the North Carolina.

01:02:43.080 Was it the House, the Senate, just both?

01:02:45.460 What was it?

01:02:45.940 Who was it?

01:02:47.820 It was the House.

01:02:49.300 And then I went before other people, too, but I don't really know who it was.

01:02:53.920 I was just talking.

01:02:54.500 OK, and we have a clip of you in front of the state legislature.

01:02:58.600 I guess it was the House, a committee hearing offering a bit of your testimonial.

01:03:02.640 Here it is.

01:03:04.360 Due to the North Carolina High School Athletic Association policy allowing biological males to compete against biological females,

01:03:13.040 my life has forever been changed.

01:03:15.120 On September 1st, 2022, I was severely injured in a high school volleyball game by a transgender athlete on the opposing team. 1.00

01:03:24.720 I suffered from a concussion and neck injury that, to this day, I'm still recovering from.

01:03:29.720 I could go on and on about how this incident has affected my life, but I'm not here for that.

01:03:35.620 I'm here for every biological female athlete behind me. 1.00

01:03:39.640 Allowing biological males to compete against biological females is dangerous.

01:03:45.120 I may be the first to come before you with an injury, but if this doesn't pass, I won't be the last.

01:03:54.180 Do you first of all, what do we know the outcome of the bill?

01:03:59.820 They said that it had passed through the Senate and that's the last I've heard.

01:04:06.600 So that was good news.

01:04:08.080 But that's the last I've heard.

01:04:09.760 We at the federal level, unfortunately, have a president who's fighting against you,

01:04:13.180 who's trying to erase the 19 state bans against biological boys participating in girls' sports.

01:04:22.900 The president doesn't think we should have bans, even if it's decided on a state-by-state level.

01:04:29.200 What's your message to him?

01:04:30.500 My message to him is he doesn't know what it's like.

01:04:37.520 And for him to make those decisions for women, it's kind of mind-numbing because he's never had to experience that, so he doesn't know. 0.58

01:04:50.160 Do you think he's endangering young girls?

01:04:51.800 I do, yes.

01:04:53.800 I think he is putting my sister, you know, in danger.

01:04:58.580 I think he's putting every other biological female in danger by doing that.

01:05:03.020 Did the other school continue letting the trans player participate in this sport against other schools?

01:05:10.840 Yes, they did.

01:05:12.180 They did?

01:05:12.820 They never pulled this trans player. 0.58

01:05:17.820 So, like, what about other schools?

01:05:19.640 Did they say, hey, in light of what happened with Peyton, we're not playing you?

01:05:25.600 Yes, there were a few schools that did that.

01:05:28.640 Almost every school was super supportive around here.

01:05:33.280 Of who?

01:05:35.500 Of me.

01:05:36.860 Okay, all right.

01:05:38.080 Good, good.

01:05:39.240 Because I would imagine, you know, if you're running a school district, you have to worry about liability.

01:05:43.820 You know, you have to worry about, you know, getting sued once you've seen that this person is hurting other girls, girls on other teams.

01:05:51.600 You've got to do something about it or you're on the hook.

01:05:53.940 Have you considered that?

01:05:54.860 Have you considered any legal action?

01:05:58.060 I don't really know.

01:06:00.400 I'm just trying to help it stop.

01:06:03.060 So we haven't really thought about any of that stuff.

01:06:05.420 Two other girls who may be in the position of having to play against this trans person, should they do it? 0.97

01:06:14.000 No.

01:06:15.100 No, they should not put themselves in danger like that if they can.

01:06:21.900 We're getting forced to, really, but if they have the decision, I wouldn't do it.

01:06:26.560 Do you think there's a risk girls are going along with it just so they're not called names like transphobe?

01:06:31.180 Yes, I definitely do.

01:06:33.860 I think the people that throw those terms out and try to bring you down like that, they're so focused on including those kind of people and everything, and they're potentially excluding women.

01:06:53.660 Last question.

01:06:56.080 There are a lot of women and men sitting at home right now agreeing with everything you've said, but they're worried if they speak out, they're going to get called names, their boss is going to think less of them, they're going to suffer some backlash.

01:07:11.040 So they let people like you and Riley Gaines stay on the front lines of this kind of a battle and just kind of wish you luck.

01:07:19.980 What do you want those people to know?

01:07:21.540 That there is a lot more support than you think.

01:07:27.360 That is the right thing.

01:07:28.980 Obviously, if the world is against you, then it's the right thing.

01:07:32.980 And, you know, it's, you can do it.

01:07:36.840 It's, it needs to stop.

01:07:39.380 So all, all these people need to come together and stand up for it because there's no need to go on any longer.

01:07:46.200 You going to school next year?

01:07:47.660 You're, is, are you going to play more sports?

01:07:51.540 I am.

01:07:52.140 I will be going to college this fall.

01:07:55.980 And now I won't be playing any sports.

01:07:58.800 Unfortunately.

01:08:00.100 I can think of another activity that may be taking up your time.

01:08:03.060 I hope I see you next to Riley with the independent women's forum, speaking out, using your voice to help others.

01:08:10.880 Peyton, all the best to you.

01:08:12.400 Congrats on learning such an important lesson at such a young age on how important it is to speak out.

01:08:18.440 Yeah.

01:08:18.720 Good luck to you.

01:08:20.120 Thank you.

01:08:20.620 Wow.

01:08:21.900 When we come back, another brave young woman speaking out.

01:08:25.600 My next guest is only 14 from across the pond.

01:08:29.200 Now, another very brave young woman speaking out.

01:08:37.360 Our next guest has chosen to stay anonymous, which sadly she really does have to do in order to protect herself to talk about this issue. 0.63

01:08:46.180 She goes by the pseudonym Brand Dove.

01:08:50.140 That's her brand dove, kind of like Brandon, but not exactly.

01:08:53.500 She is a 14 year old high school student in Ireland who has been absolutely unafraid to speak out against gender ideology being taught in her classrooms and just shoved down the throats of young women who don't want it.

01:09:09.240 She attended the Let Women Speak rally in Belfast this month with Kelly J. Keene, who you'll remember as Posey Parker.

01:09:17.620 She came on our show, I think, two Fridays ago and Brand Dove shared this amazing poem.

01:09:26.220 All right.

01:09:26.600 The poem's called I Am Not a Dress and my producer, Kelly McGuire, forwarded it to me.

01:09:32.000 I tweeted it out that day.

01:09:33.520 I have played it privately numerous times since then.

01:09:37.800 I just go on and I click the video of Brand Dove reading this poem at the Kelly J. Keene event and you're going to find out why I love it so much.

01:09:47.460 Listen, I can't believe that she came up with this.

01:09:50.640 She's so young and the messaging is so spot on.

01:09:54.560 If you are looking for the motivation to use your voice in the way Peyton was just asking you to listen to this two minutes and this powerful poem.

01:10:06.300 We are women. 0.94

01:10:08.460 We are warriors of steel.

01:10:11.580 Woman is something no man will ever feel. 1.00

01:10:15.800 Woman is not a skill that any man can hold. 1.00

01:10:19.600 Woman is our words and it is ours alone.

01:10:24.120 I am not a dress to be worn on a whim.

01:10:27.620 A man in a dress is nonetheless a him. 0.91

01:10:30.460 Women are not simply what we wear. 1.00

01:10:33.660 If this offends you, I do not care.

01:10:39.280 I am not an idea in any man's mind.

01:10:43.460 And my purpose in life is not to be kind.

01:10:47.300 So while my rights are trampled every day of the week,

01:10:50.840 I will not stand by being docile and meek.

01:10:54.360 I am not defined by sexist lies.

01:10:59.000 There is more to a woman than that shallow lies. 1.00

01:11:02.620 That guise of dresses, bikinis and skirts.

01:11:05.760 Those clothes are not what womanhood is worth. 1.00

01:11:10.200 I am not a bitch, a turf, a whore, a slag.

01:11:14.720 Hysterical, a witch, a slaughter hag. 1.00

01:11:17.580 No, I am a woman.

01:11:19.040 I am a female.

01:11:20.320 Who will not let her rights be put up for sale? 1.00

01:11:23.320 I am not defined by what men are not.

01:11:31.680 So to hell it says misogynistic rot.

01:11:35.520 I am a woman.

01:11:36.920 I am not a subset of my sex.

01:11:39.100 If this makes me a dinosaur, so be it.

01:11:41.580 I'm a T-Rex.

01:11:42.500 I am not a bleater nor a menstruator,

01:11:50.860 a womb carrier or a uterus hugger.

01:11:54.300 Those words and phrases are such a sham.

01:11:58.240 Just call me woman.

01:11:59.540 It is who I am.

01:12:01.220 We are women. 0.94

01:12:04.580 We are warriors of steel.

01:12:06.860 Woman is something no man will ever feel. 1.00

01:12:10.900 Woman is not a skill that any man can hone. 1.00

01:12:14.740 Woman is our words and it is ours alone.

01:12:19.680 It's unbelievable.

01:12:21.160 It's like brings tears every time.

01:12:23.580 Right?

01:12:24.680 Brandov, thank you so much for coming on and thank you for your beautiful words.

01:12:29.160 Thank you for having me on here.

01:12:31.800 Oh my gosh, you're so young.

01:12:34.240 I can hear it in your voice and I understand why you don't want to go on cam with your face

01:12:39.120 because you've already had enough backlash.

01:12:42.220 Can I just add, how did you come up with that?

01:12:45.680 How did you think of those beautiful words?

01:12:48.460 I first came up with the idea when I attended an event in Ireland in November.

01:12:54.300 It was called Women's Space to Speak. 0.95

01:12:56.360 Like one woman shared a poem she had written and I was like, hey, I think I could do something

01:13:02.200 really good.

01:13:03.440 And yeah, I started writing it then.

01:13:05.740 I came up with the first couple of lines that night.

01:13:09.920 Oh my gosh.

01:13:10.720 I mean, I know your mother has been your advocate and helper along.

01:13:14.840 When you read that to your mother, did she weep?

01:13:17.280 Yeah, I think, yeah, she did a little.

01:13:18.960 I mean, if it's got if it got me, I can imagine it got her.

01:13:23.860 It's so beautiful.

01:13:24.740 It is a it's a battle cry.

01:13:26.840 That's what it is.

01:13:27.440 It's a battle cry for women to remember who they are, what they're capable of and what 1.00

01:13:32.120 they should and should not stand for.

01:13:35.060 And you needed this in your own life.

01:13:38.900 For just sick reasons.

01:13:41.400 When I read about what's happening to you, Brando, I thought, my God, we have it easy

01:13:45.080 over here.

01:13:45.700 Like Ireland has lost its love and mind.

01:13:47.900 They the the indoctrination that you are being subjected to is absolutely breathtaking.

01:13:54.140 So walk us through when it started to seep into your life, like in school and how.

01:14:00.080 OK, so I started secondary school and that's high school in America.

01:14:04.700 So and so, yeah, I started high school.

01:14:07.780 And so my first year there and I was there for maybe eight weeks when my school celebrated

01:14:15.600 this thing called stand up week.

01:14:18.540 And we were told that stand up week was this week where we basically try to show members

01:14:27.700 of the LGBTQ plus community in our school that they're welcome there.

01:14:32.360 But that was just such a lie.

01:14:34.760 It was about shoving TQ plus propaganda down our throats.

01:14:38.880 In one class, my teacher gave us this booklet published by an organization called Belong To.

01:14:46.520 And it was just full of misinformation.

01:14:51.860 It said stuff about gender identity and gender expression and how your sex is assigned at birth,

01:14:59.400 which is just ridiculous.

01:15:01.000 I mean, it's not assigned.

01:15:02.280 It's observed.

01:15:03.880 And many women have it observed in utero before the baby is even born.

01:15:08.400 Yes.

01:15:08.680 So I asked some questions about this and it all went from there.

01:15:13.300 So you you challenged you said, what do you mean?

01:15:15.800 You made comments like that.

01:15:17.260 It's not assigned.

01:15:18.100 It's observed.

01:15:18.940 And how did that go over with your teachers?

01:15:21.800 Not well.

01:15:22.760 The next week, I got pulled out of class by my science teacher.

01:15:29.680 She was actually my science teacher.

01:15:32.080 She told me that the previous week I had made some offensive comments about trans people.

01:15:39.520 So she basically told me that I was being transphobic.

01:15:43.640 And she expected me.

01:15:44.920 In particular, what what in particular did she object to?

01:15:47.860 She didn't say she just said I'd made offensive comments.

01:15:51.320 And what were the comments that you had made?

01:15:53.580 Was it like what do you remember having said?

01:15:55.960 I said something about men shouldn't be in women's prisons, even if they identify as 1.00

01:16:03.380 women, like they're still men. 0.97

01:16:05.260 I asked about questions about what was in the plus and the LGBTQ plus.

01:16:10.880 Because we all know that it's very vague.

01:16:13.960 Like, I'm not even sure what the Q is.

01:16:15.920 I've been told it means questioning.

01:16:17.240 I've been told it means queer to this moment.

01:16:19.420 I think there might be a disagreement on it.

01:16:21.000 But OK, so you were questioning this questioning itself.

01:16:24.960 And you were told by the science teacher, no, don't do that.

01:16:28.580 Yes, I so I argued back with my science teacher.

01:16:33.380 So she expected me to be terribly repentant that I'd been transphobic.

01:16:40.400 But I wasn't.

01:16:42.620 At one point, she told me that being a man or a woman has nothing to do with your reproductive

01:16:48.560 system.

01:16:49.880 And this is my science teacher.

01:16:52.640 And she told me that with a straight face.

01:16:54.960 How it's just insane.

01:16:56.720 Now, how had you prepared yourself for that kind of exchange?

01:17:01.060 Like a lot of 14 year olds are not even thinking about gender and this whole gender ideology

01:17:06.060 craziness.

01:17:07.140 You know, how were you up to speed on the insanity that was being spooned to you?

01:17:12.880 My mom had been telling me about this for a while now, but by that point.

01:17:18.800 And so before I started high school and she told me that they might celebrate this thing

01:17:28.520 called stand up week.

01:17:29.860 But we had no idea it would be as bad as it was.

01:17:32.740 But just in case, mom told me about all this trans stuff.

01:17:37.240 So I was prepared for if it did happen.

01:17:39.140 Good for her.

01:17:39.940 And she backed you up like you don't have to buy into this or pretend that you buy into

01:17:45.640 this.

01:17:46.440 Yeah, she did.

01:17:47.800 That's great.

01:17:48.420 I mean, that's I think for mothers out there, that's half the battle.

01:17:50.940 Like I say to my kids, too, you you do not actually need to participate.

01:17:54.680 You do not need to say your pronouns.

01:17:56.660 You don't need to buy into these discussions at all.

01:17:59.240 So I do think there's an important lesson there with your mom.

01:18:02.520 Now, it wasn't without consequence, because as I understand it, not only did your teachers

01:18:07.160 not appreciate your boldness on this issue, but your classmates turned on you in large

01:18:12.780 measure, too.

01:18:14.300 Yes, they did.

01:18:15.520 What happened after the class where I asked about men in women's prisons, a couple of

01:18:21.120 my classmates came up to me and they started telling me about how I had been very transphobic.

01:18:26.620 I had counted these people as friends.

01:18:28.820 But then suddenly after that, they stopped talking to me and they had reported me to my

01:18:35.060 they had they reported me for what I'd said in that class.

01:18:39.540 So your your friends turn on you and then ultimately you have a conversation with the

01:18:45.240 head of school about inclusivity.

01:18:48.360 Can you tell us about that?

01:18:49.740 Yes.

01:18:50.180 So after I refused to give in to my science teachers and sanity and I got pulled out of

01:18:57.700 class again a few weeks later by my year head, he told me again that I'd made some very

01:19:04.300 offensive comments and I said that no, I'd stated reality and yeah, that's not offensive.

01:19:13.400 And if you find that offensive, that's not my problem.

01:19:15.860 I'm going to state reality anyway.

01:19:18.420 He said, well, because this school is really inclusive, it's not the right atmosphere for 1.00

01:19:24.680 you to voice your beliefs.

01:19:26.680 So in other words, he told me that because the school is so inclusive, my beliefs aren't

01:19:32.040 included.

01:19:32.440 Well, I mean, did do you think he was in any way cognizant of how absurd what he was saying

01:19:41.140 was?

01:19:41.640 Did he he just didn't care because he's woke and he's assigned on to this other ideology?

01:19:47.180 Yeah.

01:19:47.560 Well, when you when you can't I mean, the whole trans ideology is just a walking pile of 1.00

01:19:54.380 contradictions.

01:19:54.540 So I suppose one more wasn't going to be too much to him.

01:19:59.840 What was what happened on the bullying front?

01:20:01.880 You know, I understand they defaced your desk.

01:20:04.920 There were a couple of disturbing incidents with some unkind people.

01:20:08.520 Yes.

01:20:08.880 So I went into class one day and this happened a few times, actually.

01:20:13.000 But yeah, I went in one day and someone had scrolled trans rights or human rights across

01:20:19.440 my desk.

01:20:20.180 Another time I went into class and someone had scrolled the same slogan across a whiteboard.

01:20:27.840 And in classes where there's no seating plan, I sit on my own.

01:20:33.780 If I arrive first, I sit on it at a table and everyone else actively avoids that table.

01:20:40.680 Because you just can't associate with a transphobe.

01:20:44.360 I always eat on my own.

01:20:45.960 Everyone avoids me.

01:20:47.460 Yeah, that's what's been happening.

01:20:48.680 This is so sad and this is so wrong.

01:20:52.780 I like I can't believe that all the students feel as you know, the woke trans advocates

01:21:00.900 feel I isn't there's not is it a co-ed school?

01:21:03.840 Are there boys who are seeing it the way you're seeing?

01:21:05.880 Is there anybody there or do you think you have supporters?

01:21:09.640 They're just too afraid.

01:21:11.360 The boys see it for what it is.

01:21:13.520 They see it for the madness, but they still don't associate with me.

01:21:16.780 They just think it's a joke and they're like, oh, she's because like being a transphobe

01:21:21.200 is really uncool.

01:21:22.500 So they're not going to hang out with me.

01:21:24.580 I mean, you're young.

01:21:25.640 I mean, it wasn't so long ago.

01:21:27.320 I remember being a 14 year old girl and getting targeted by the rest of the grade doesn't feel

01:21:32.120 good.

01:21:32.760 So how are you?

01:21:34.760 How are you handling yourself every day?

01:21:36.580 How does it feel?

01:21:37.880 So at lunch, well, I might write a Twitter thread just to, you know, show of defiance.

01:21:44.440 I'm going to, you're not going to stop me talking about this issue.

01:21:48.040 I'm not going to be silenced about my rights.

01:21:50.700 I'm going to keep going.

01:21:52.620 Sometimes I think of the suffragettes and what they went through because women fighting 1.00

01:21:59.420 this, we are the suffragettes over again. 0.75

01:22:02.480 We're fighting for our rights.

01:22:04.260 And I think what would have happened if they hadn't spoken out?

01:22:08.540 Like we would, we still would not have the vote if the suffragettes had not spoken out. 1.00

01:22:13.960 So we have to speak out.

01:22:16.040 I think of my sister as well.

01:22:17.940 I don't want her to have to deal with this rubbish at school.

01:22:21.760 And she, how old is she? 0.96

01:22:24.160 Five.

01:22:25.380 Oh, wow.

01:22:26.200 She's little.

01:22:27.960 You, um, I mean, you have what, three more years to get through until you're out of there?

01:22:33.400 What year are you in?

01:22:35.080 I'm in second year now, so I've got four more years.

01:22:38.680 Oh, four more years.

01:22:40.580 I mean, all you need is one.

01:22:42.220 I can speak to this as having been very badly bullied in my seventh grade year.

01:22:46.480 Everyone turned on me and you just need one.

01:22:49.300 I feel like you're going to find, even if you find them in an outside activity, you need

01:22:53.180 just the one.

01:22:53.680 And you know, where you have so many fans and supporters around the world now, Brando.

01:22:59.660 I mean, like me and my audience.

01:23:01.960 So just remember that.

01:23:03.200 Always remember that those haters inside your school are not your world and just people

01:23:07.180 you have to get through to get to the rest of us on the other side.

01:23:10.560 Um, let me ask you this, cause I want to ask you about some of the lines in your, in your

01:23:13.920 poem.

01:23:15.460 Women are not simply what we wear. 1.00

01:23:17.260 If this offends you, I do not care.

01:23:19.980 Um, this to me brought up things like Dylan Mulvaney, um, the pictures, there is more to

01:23:27.440 women than shallow guys where you say, I am not defined by sexist lies.

01:23:32.860 There is more to woman than shallow guys. 0.64

01:23:35.760 When I read that, I was thinking about people like Dylan Mulvaney, who I don't know about

01:23:41.400 you, but I find particularly offensive because Dylan's version of womanhood reduces women

01:23:47.020 to the, these ridiculous stereotypes.

01:23:50.680 But Dylan's defenders would say, well, that's Dylan's experience of what it's like to be

01:23:56.400 female.

01:23:57.680 And Dylan's full of love and is a joyful person.

01:24:00.840 And why are you all being so mean to Dylan?

01:24:04.680 And why are you all feeling so offended by Dylan?

01:24:06.940 Who's expressing womanhood in the way that feels real to him?

01:24:11.280 What are your thoughts on that?

01:24:12.800 Well, he's not expressing womanhood cause he can't cause he's a man.

01:24:16.440 I just don't get why he can't be a man who wears dresses, who wants to wear makeup.

01:24:21.440 If he tries to say he's a woman when he's not, we have every right to object to that.

01:24:26.700 Why do you think it's important to object?

01:24:28.460 Well, if he's a woman, if, if any, if any man can declare himself a woman, where does

01:24:35.940 it stop?

01:24:36.600 So he's, he's a man and he says he's a woman.

01:24:40.640 And if we, we have to accept that, well, we're told we have to anyway, then it brings

01:24:45.520 you on to men like Barbie Kardashian.

01:24:48.360 If we have, who's a man in women's prisons, who identifies as a woman. 0.81

01:24:53.360 So it starts with Dylan Mulvaney.

01:24:56.140 We say he's a woman, maybe he's not harming anyone, but then what about this man?

01:25:02.880 But, but this man Kardashian, why isn't he a woman?

01:25:06.980 If Dylan's a woman, it's just a slippery slope. 1.00

01:25:10.240 Once you, once you engage in the fiction, you're in the fiction.

01:25:14.000 That's the problem.

01:25:14.660 Yes, that's it.

01:25:15.900 So are you anti pronouns, you know, preferred pronouns?

01:25:19.920 Yes.

01:25:20.540 I wouldn't use them because I thought it'd be a lie.

01:25:24.240 And I was given a form once in school and I was asked to fill it out.

01:25:29.100 And so everyone in the class was, it was a form about pronouns.

01:25:33.600 And I was asked, would I use someone's preferred pronouns?

01:25:37.600 They gave you four options.

01:25:39.680 The options were definitely, probably, probably not.

01:25:44.660 And I don't know.

01:25:45.620 They didn't give you an option to say, no, I definitely would not.

01:25:49.860 But I just went with the probably not.

01:25:53.060 But yeah, no, I wouldn't.

01:25:55.440 Well, you know that there are a lot of people who say it's discourteous.

01:25:59.780 You know, it's not about truth versus real, you know, non-truth.

01:26:04.100 It's about being kind, being considerate of somebody.

01:26:07.860 And that leads me to your line.

01:26:09.620 I am not an idea in any man's mind.

01:26:12.260 And my purpose in life is not to be kind.

01:26:16.460 So what about that?

01:26:18.380 You know, the, well, what does it hurt, you know, to just be kind and not offend somebody

01:26:24.000 by saying their preferred pronoun?

01:26:26.620 Because it's a lie.

01:26:28.760 And we've, since when do we affirm someone's delusion?

01:26:33.120 People have always had misconceptions about who they are.

01:26:37.040 Take, for example, people with anorexia.

01:26:38.940 We don't tell them that they're fat because it's not true.

01:26:44.660 So we shouldn't tell men who think they're women that they are women.

01:26:48.380 And what if you met a trans person who said, oh, I'm a woman. 0.56

01:26:51.760 You know, it's a guy who says, I'm a woman.

01:26:54.000 And he's sitting right there with you at, you know, a table.

01:26:57.520 Would you, would you use the pronoun there?

01:27:00.600 Like, how would you handle that awkwardness?

01:27:03.100 If I was talking to him, I probably wouldn't be using she, her or he, him.

01:27:07.900 Yeah.

01:27:08.340 Anyway, but if I have to use a pronoun in his presence, I would still use he, him because

01:27:15.040 I'm not going to lie.

01:27:16.200 I'm not going to bend at all on this.

01:27:18.820 I admire your courage and I'm working on finding my own in the wake of conversations like this.

01:27:24.960 You know, I'll talk with Kelly J.

01:27:26.640 I've spoken with so many people over the past months and years on this, and I'm really starting

01:27:32.100 to come around.

01:27:32.780 I'm seeing the light because of courageous young women like you.

01:27:37.560 So while your message gets rejected and labeled negatively by your teachers and your classmates,

01:27:45.200 just know you're influencing people like me with very powerful platforms who have millions

01:27:50.620 of people listening to me.

01:27:51.900 And I know my audience is listening to you feeling the way I am feeling.

01:27:55.160 So don't stop.

01:27:56.820 Don't back down.

01:27:57.900 Don't let them cow you.

01:27:59.300 Don't let them hurt you so much that you submit or, or silence your voice.

01:28:04.020 You're helping us all.

01:28:05.840 Thank you.

01:28:06.740 Yeah.

01:28:07.260 Don't intend on doing any of that.

01:28:09.360 I'm not fucking down.

01:28:10.860 I have every expectation.

01:28:12.600 We're going to be seeing a lot more of you, especially once you hit the age of majority.

01:28:17.280 And I can't wait to see at that point, your beautiful face and learn much, much more about

01:28:22.100 you.

01:28:22.680 Brenda, all the best. 0.66

01:28:23.700 Thank you for coming on.

01:28:25.120 Okay.

01:28:25.440 Thank you.

01:28:26.720 Wow.

01:28:27.480 What an extraordinary young woman.

01:28:29.300 What an extraordinary person.

01:28:31.120 All of her courage and bravery, which is available to us all.

01:28:34.940 All right.

01:28:35.380 We're going to be right back with a closing message.

01:28:37.000 Don't go away.

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01:29:06.180 He's just a naughty, naughty boy.

01:29:09.160 There's just no getting around it every week.

01:29:11.540 Another gift.

01:29:12.680 Okay.

01:29:13.300 So this like got a lot of mail about Tucker this week.

01:29:17.700 Kathy in Pennsylvania writes, I came to Fox to watch Tucker after Afghanistan was not being

01:29:22.400 covered by legacy news.

01:29:23.720 And I couldn't understand why I stuck with Fox, got Fox nation and loved Tucker's specials.

01:29:29.380 I'm out by Fox.

01:29:32.420 Mark in New York writes your show and Tucker's show were the only reasons I

01:29:36.000 watched Fox news Hannity and waters.

01:29:38.280 Won't keep me tuned in done with Fox.

01:29:41.460 Marjorie writes.

01:29:42.720 I was only keeping Xfinity TV account to watch Tucker F them all.

01:29:46.380 I just canceled.

01:29:47.800 Jackie writes.

01:29:48.620 I have talked with so many people today about Tucker and they all feel the same as me.

01:29:52.340 We are so mad at Fox for doing this.

01:29:54.060 I always defend them.

01:29:55.780 Not anymore.

01:29:56.760 I hope Fox suffers because of this.

01:29:58.680 Tucker was Fox news.

01:30:01.040 I mean, the overwhelming majority of you guys felt that way.

01:30:04.960 Some disagreed.

01:30:05.820 Nick appreciate the voice of dissent because it's always great to have opposing points of

01:30:09.200 view.

01:30:10.040 He writes in Fox did the right thing by getting rid of Tucker.

01:30:13.140 The text messages showed he was putting forth propaganda he knew was false on the stolen

01:30:17.560 election claims of 2020.

01:30:18.700 He lied to his audience on purpose for ratings.

01:30:22.120 He may be an opinion show, but that is still no excuse.

01:30:25.700 This also puts more pressure on MSNBC to ditch Maddow and Joy Reid for the same reasons.

01:30:30.880 Now, I would just say this to you, Nick.

01:30:32.160 I don't think that that's accurate, that that his text messages showed he was putting

01:30:35.780 forth propaganda he knew was false on the stolen election claims of 2020.

01:30:39.480 Tucker never bought into the Dominion claims.

01:30:41.540 Never.

01:30:41.760 There was never a show he did or that even Dominion claimed he did that showed that he

01:30:47.200 talked about the 2020 election being unfair.

01:30:50.240 And I think the term rigged has come to mean different things to different people.

01:30:54.280 You know, he talked about the change of rules in Pennsylvania when it came to the mailing

01:30:58.100 balloting and so on.

01:30:59.500 And so we could go down the list, but there's nothing in his text messages that shows he

01:31:04.900 did not believe that there's been a conflation, I think, in the way a lot of the mainstream

01:31:08.900 has covered his text messages on that front.

01:31:10.660 But in any event, I appreciate the feedback either way.

01:31:13.840 Kamala Harris got some mail on her.

01:31:17.100 Amy writes, oh, my word.

01:31:19.580 OK, wait, she's I'm going to show you what she's reacting to because it's worth playing.

01:31:22.960 Um, she got a kick out of this soundbite we ran this week.

01:31:26.040 Watch.

01:31:26.780 So I think it's very important, as you have heard from so many incredible leaders for

01:31:35.320 us at every moment in time and certainly this one to see the moment in time in which we

01:31:42.840 exist in our present and to be able to contextualize it, to understand where we exist in the history

01:31:51.840 and in the moment as it relates not only to the past, but the future.

01:32:00.000 Wake me when it's over.

01:32:01.660 It's just such inanity.

01:32:03.580 Absolutely nothing is being said.

01:32:05.240 Amy writes in, oh, my word.

01:32:07.980 All that was missing from that rambling was the use of a Venn diagram.

01:32:11.580 Well done.

01:32:12.620 How embarrassing.

01:32:13.400 Thanks for the laugh.

01:32:14.140 Sad as it is.

01:32:15.560 Stephen writes in about AOC.

01:32:18.000 I just had to take a moment to tell you how much I love when you go after AOC.

01:32:21.160 Well, she makes it so easy, Stephen.

01:32:22.900 He writes, I may not be the sharpest pencil in the box, but she is absolutely an idiot to 1.00

01:32:27.760 keep doing what you're doing.

01:32:29.820 OK, we had National Review Day this week.

01:32:31.740 We have different guys from National Review or gals.

01:32:33.380 This week, it was Noah Rothman and MBD.

01:32:36.360 Mary writes, loved the fiery exchange with Noah Rothman on Wednesday's show.

01:32:40.120 I don't always agree with everything on your show, but I listen because you engage in good

01:32:42.880 faith with points of view I don't hear in other places.

01:32:47.140 Tony also writes, love the spicy back and forth between you and Noah from National Review.

01:32:52.680 I appreciate that you appreciated it.

01:32:54.740 We don't always have to agree.

01:32:55.720 It's kind of fun to hear people disagree, right?

01:32:57.780 It gets boring if it's always like, yes, I agree.

01:33:00.160 Yes, yes, yes, me too.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 28, 2023

Fox News' Post-Tucker Existential Crisis, and Brave Young Women Speaking Out, with Buck Sexton, Payton McNabb, and more ｜ Ep. 539

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