After his trip to Israel and Egypt, President Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron appear to be locked in an arm wrestle. And things don t go well for British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who seems to think that Trump was inviting him to speak at a summit with world leaders in Egypt.
00:01:00.000Mr. Trump making the remarks during his trip yesterday to Israel and Egypt, where he celebrated his historic peace deal to end the war in Gaza with other world leaders.
00:01:09.860And not just end the war, but they're very much hoping this is the beginning of a new dawn in that region.
00:01:16.660One that actually is characterized by peace and not never-ending fighting, as it's been for decades now.
00:01:26.520Speaking of power, President Trump yesterday evaporated any doubts on who is the most powerful leader in the world in ways both figuratively and literally.
00:01:35.420He and French President Emmanuel Macron locked in what looks more like an arm wrestle than a handshake.
00:01:41.420For the listening audience, Macron's got his arm around Trump's back.
00:02:26.700And Macron and Trudeau actually remind me of each other in some ways, but Macron's a little bit more of a man.
00:02:32.580In any event, I really think these people need to give it up.
00:02:35.940Like, don't get into a pissing contest with Donald Trump.
00:02:38.080It doesn't end well for most of the men who do.
00:02:40.520And things did not go well for British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who's facing ridicule after he appeared to think that Trump was inviting him to speak at a summit with world leaders in Egypt.
00:03:02.880These people all came in, like, 20-minute notice, and I think it's fantastic.
00:03:09.420And we have so many others, and just so many others.
00:03:12.140Our friend Glenn Greenwald writing on X, imagine going from the world's most powerful empire to whatever this is in just a few decades.
00:03:22.920The way Sir Keir happily and eagerly jumps up when called, then slinks back once quickly dismissed, all by someone who doesn't know his name.
00:05:09.160Um, but you are facing what's happening to the UK in a very acute way.
00:05:15.880And like, while we're all celebrating this peace deal today and absolutely want peace for the Middle East, one thing we don't want here in America is a ton more Muslims emigrating into the United States.
00:05:39.660And they have a real home they can hang out in and raise their families in.
00:05:43.140But the solution is definitely not for them to come here or continuing to flood into places like the United Kingdom, which has already changed, it looks like, irrevocably.
00:05:54.440You tell me, what's your overall take on what's happening there?
00:05:57.660Yeah, well, as an aside, that clip that we just saw with Trump and Starmer was a microcosm of the state of the UK at the moment.
00:06:05.680The nerdy loser kid who thinks for a second that maybe the cool kid is going to show him some attention, but unfortunately put back in his box pretty quickly.
00:06:17.020The word irrevocably, Megan, is an interesting one.
00:06:20.240And this is the question, you know, on JPE News, on my podcast, but in the pubs across the UK, we talk about a lot because we've seen the decline that's happened.
00:06:29.100And we do wonder, is there a chance of reversal?
00:06:32.600That is the key question this country faces.
00:06:34.540Now, this country's gone through dark moments before.
00:06:38.880You had, you know, the Vikings were raiding the countryside a thousand years ago.
00:06:44.340You had the IMF in the 1970s bail out the country.
00:07:22.060And so a lot of people are looking at the next three to four years before a general election in the UK.
00:07:27.740And they are saying this could be the last best hope for what was once the greatest country in the world before the US took on that mantle.
00:07:38.740I know this really caught your attention.
00:07:41.500I mean, it's been catching your attention, but you made international headlines when you really spoke out about this problem after the attack on Yom Kippur, the most holy Jewish holiday of the year, on Jews in the UK.
00:07:56.980By a guy named Jihadi, Jihadi al-Shami, which means jihad.
00:08:09.040This guy unleashes a terrorist attack on Jews in the UK, on Yom Kippur, driving his vehicle into a crowd outside of a synagogue in Manchester, then attacking others with a knife.
00:08:21.680At least three others were hospitalized.
00:08:23.320And the guy, by the way, there's no question the motivation, because he phoned the police claiming to pledge allegiance to the so-called Islamic State.
00:08:33.320So we didn't – over here, the big game is, gee, we'll never know the motive, even if it's written on the bullets.
00:08:38.680There's no question what the motive was.
00:08:40.320Many in the political class are still trying to say that.
00:09:10.480It has embedded sectarian violence on the streets of the UK and cost countless lives, most recently the lives of Adrian Daubley and Melvin Kravitz in Manchester.
00:09:21.940Again, strength and love to their families.
00:09:29.800And in fact, it has now become our greatest weakness economically and culturally.
00:09:34.320And I'm yet to hear any coherent argument for its value that doesn't default to, well, we get good restaurants out of it, which isn't good enough justification for complete cultural and social fracture.
00:09:45.540And besides, we've got the recipes now anyway.
00:10:35.520I say it because I think it is reflective of where many people are at now in the United Kingdom, in Australia, across the Anglosphere, in that four years ago, five years ago, we were bullied into silence on these matters.
00:10:48.640You were told that if you had legitimate questions about Islam, you were called a racist.
00:10:53.800And make no mistake, this is a very deliberate attempt from the left to conflate race with culture.
00:11:00.440Race should be something that should be off limits in terms of criticism.
00:11:11.800And any sort of choice, you should be able to criticise.
00:11:14.320And it is blatantly obvious, Megan, and you know this, most of your audience knows this, there are legitimate questions to be asked around Islam when it comes to the treatment of women, when it comes to the treatment of minority groups, when it comes to the separation between church or mosque and state.
00:11:31.640And you know what, the answer that you always get is, well, you know, I know a lovely Muslim lady or a lovely Muslim man who lives around the corner from me.
00:11:40.700No one's saying that there aren't nice people who are Muslims.
00:11:43.340But the problem comes, A, when you get to scale.
00:11:46.920And the reality is that out of the, what, 50-odd Muslim countries in the world, 47 of them aren't democracies.
00:11:54.160The three that are are pretty dodgy democracies.
00:11:56.46040 of them are authoritarian hellholes.
00:11:59.420So it's very obvious that when you get to scale in Islamic cultures, you face these problems.
00:12:05.980And the problem for the UK is that we are rapidly approaching a point where there is going to be scale.
00:12:12.380By the 2050s or 2060s, I can't recall the exact number, but you're going to get to a point where somewhere between 20 to 25% of the population could be following the Islamic faith.
00:12:22.660Now, in a country where there isn't compulsory voting, interestingly, in Australia there actually is, but say the US or the UK, you just need to have a sectarian voting bloc that can mobilize around an Islamic candidate and a hardline Islamic candidate at that.
00:12:40.160And suddenly that scale I just mentioned means that you can have fundamental changes to the culture and an undermining of the Western liberal values that we in the US and the UK hold dear.
00:12:53.600This problem has been on the radar of those paying attention for quite some time.
00:13:00.800And just we're going to get to this, but just so the listening audience in the United States knows, this is our problem, too.
00:13:06.120We're a lot bigger than the UK, but we have a similar issue.
00:13:09.880Muslims are now in the majority in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:13:12.400That's where Rashida Tlaib is a representative for.
00:13:17.640In Minnesota, there's a huge contingent.
00:13:20.800That's where Ilhan Omar was elected from.
00:13:24.200And you've now got the open call to prayer happening five times a day on the streets of some of these cities in Minnesota and in Dearborn.
00:13:33.280Five times a day where you hear the call to prayer and then the open praying, Allahu Akbar.
00:13:48.420The city of Minneapolis changed its noise ordinance, now allowing the Islamic call to prayer to be broadcast from speakers year-round five times a day.
00:13:57.700In tonight's Weekend Journal, David Schumann of WCCO reports it is a first for a major US city.
00:14:10.340The Muslim call to prayer, recited in here, heard out there.
00:14:17.060It is a very simple message to share the greatness of God and to call people to success.
00:14:22.780Five times a day, Muslims gather to pray at mosques.
00:14:27.460But the broadcast for the pre-dawn and nighttime prayers weren't allowed in Minneapolis until now.
00:14:33.580The city eliminated time constraints from the part of its noise ordinance related to religious worship.
00:14:38.540In the summer, that means the call could go out as early as 3.30 a.m. and as late as 11 p.m.
00:14:44.1603.30 a.m. people in Minneapolis hearing the call to prayer and then everybody's down on their knees saying, Allahu Akbar.
00:14:51.960This is happening in the United States, but it's overwhelming already in the UK, which opened its borders about 15 years ago and is now paying the price.
00:15:01.880Well, you know, the interesting thing about that clip, Megan, is how that the local council or authority change their ordinances in order to make this happen.
00:15:11.880And it's a small example, but it's a very powerful example of how countries like the UK and the US are going out of their way to change their rules, their customs, their laws, their regulations in order to be kind and tolerant and to embrace this multicultural ideology, which we have been, which has been thrust upon us now for 20 or 30 years.
00:15:38.340I grew up in a school in Sydney in Australia.
00:15:41.680I remember in the curriculum, multiculturalism was just taught as this inarguable good.
00:15:48.200It was just something which you should accept.
00:15:50.660Tolerance, kindness, compassion, diversity, all that sort of stuff.
00:15:54.480And I was thinking about this and I was thinking when these people say this stuff, all they ever do really is they say, A, well, you get good restaurants out of the deal or B, they just keep using the word diversity.
00:16:07.880As if it is a good in and of itself, I'm yet to hear the business case for multiculturalism or diversity.
00:16:17.040I'm yet to hear actually, right, okay, there are obviously the problems of sectarian violence that this causes.
00:16:23.580There are obviously the problems of the dilution of the culture.
00:16:26.660And I just don't think it's good enough for countries like Australia or the UK or the US to say, well, you know what, just because we get, you know, good kebabs out of the deal, suddenly we need to start diminishing our own culture.
00:16:42.040And I think more people need to start making this argument with a bit more courage and a bit more intelligence because we are on the right side of this argument.
00:16:52.340But we've been bullied by a relatively small, powerful elite across these countries for too long.
00:16:58.260And when you can put logic back against that, I think it is an argument that we can win.
00:17:03.780I mean, there is no way that one of these large Middle Eastern countries, whether it's Saudi Arabia or, you know, beyond, wants an influx of Caucasian Americans or Brits who refuse to assimilate and want to change culture there.
00:17:20.800You know, a bunch of feminists from the Upper West Side moving to Saudi is not something they desire, and they don't need to desire it.
00:17:44.580I mean, I remember when I was on Fox News back around 2010, 2015, that whole time frame, the biggest story in the world was, in particular in Germany, Angela Merkel opening up the German borders, in particular to Syrian refugees.
00:17:58.340And the UK was doing it too, all in the name of tolerance.
00:18:01.380And now here we are 15 years later, and the cultures have fundamentally changed.
00:18:21.680And the trend line that you've seen on the left is so bizarre.
00:18:26.200You know, if you actually looked at this, it could be a Babylon Bee article in that you have this bizarre combination now of far left, loony, progressive identity politics warriors,
00:18:37.060and leftists, and regressive conservative Muslims.
00:18:42.520And it is so obviously an incompatible combination with the one thread that binds them together, which is a desire to tear down Western civilisation.
00:18:52.920Now, I don't think that thread is enough to hold that coalition together in the long term.
00:18:57.900But that is what is happening on the left.
00:18:59.660That is what is behind the rise of people like Mamdani.
00:19:02.960That is what is behind the rise of the far left in the UK as well.
00:19:07.440It is an incompatible coalition with the one exception that the goal is to tear down what we have built and cherished over thousands of years,
00:19:18.120and then what the US progressed and built upon from 1776.
00:19:24.500And to your point, there are definitely Muslims here and in the UK who have assimilated and just want to live an American life.
00:19:35.180It's those who want to Islamicize their new countries to whom we object and whom we must fight.
00:19:43.000Because we don't want to Islamicize the United States of America, nor do you want to Islamicize the UK.
00:19:48.460Because, as Charlie was saying in a special we did, I was running clips of him two Sundays ago, Islam is not compatible with Western values.
00:19:58.800We do not want that to become the dominant cultural or religious strain in our country or yours for really good reasons, some of which you hit on in your monologue.
00:20:10.880Because, again, for me, and I think for you and for your audience, most sensible people, it is very obvious that in Islamic culture, particularly fundamentalist Islamic cultures, but I would even argue with moderate Muslims, it is obvious that women are second-class citizens.
00:20:26.160It is obvious that minority groups are treated appallingly, and yet the very same people who will march out on the streets with rainbow flags in saying, we need to protect these oppressed groups, are also willing to turn a blind eye.
00:20:42.900And I find it, frankly, hypocritical, but also just a bit, I remain confused by it.
00:21:01.020Let's think about, you know, your typical purple-haired, lefty, loony on campus who will argue for trans rights, but at the same time, they will also turn a blind eye to the obvious cultural problems.
00:21:20.480For instance, Islamic culture, and I would dare say, at the mainstream of Islamic culture in many of these countries, that cognitive dissonance that is there, what do you put that down to?
00:21:33.360I just think they're ruled by that oppression narrative, and it starts, there's nothing greater, not sexuality, not gender identity, than skin color.
00:21:40.820That is the be-all, end-all for many of these people.
00:21:45.000And brown and black people must be elevated above whites, no matter what, because that's the ultimate oppression scale.
00:21:50.780And if that means that, as a gay person, you have to get thrown off the top of a building in Palestine, because you're a white gay, so be it.
00:21:59.720That's really how their thinking goes.
00:22:03.780But there's no other conclusion, because we've seen the clashes in the streets, you know, where the people are holding up, like, gays for Hamas, and then they get shouted down by Muslims who are like, get out.
00:22:24.600And you see these more radical Muslims being like, you are not part of our coalition, nor do we want you to be.
00:22:30.820And even then, these people would get out there because there's social cachet in saying that you're anti-Israel, you're pro-Hamas, or you're somehow for these oppressed Muslims in these other countries.
00:22:45.980But this is such a good point as well.
00:22:48.100And that is so much of this comes back to status.
00:22:51.080You know, back in the 80s or 90s, the way that you would demonstrate status would be, you know, the Ferrari, the big house, trophy wife with the big boobs.
00:22:59.020That is how you demonstrated high society status.
00:23:03.160And now, you know, Rob Henderson's been wonderful on this.
00:23:08.420But the thing which I am encouraged by, and I think this has been accelerated in the US with Trump, but I think it's happening in the UK now as well,
00:23:16.260is people are now just pushing back and saying, you know what, call me a racist.
00:23:29.660And if you're going to call me a racist or far right, and that's the price that I have to pay to protect my own culture,
00:23:35.560to protect women and children who are being sexually assaulted at increasing rates in the United Kingdom today,
00:23:42.920I'm very happy to be called a racist in order to stop that from happening.
00:23:46.540And we can get to this, but the importation of crime and particularly sexual crime in the UK over the last 20-odd years has been absolutely terrifying.
00:23:58.000And you and I both know, as well as the audience, there is only one major variable that has happened in the last 20 years
00:24:04.360that would mean that you would get that spike in sexual assault and sexual violence in places like London.
00:25:27.040Let me, for the audience later, simply as I can try and understand it, someone whose name literally translates to Jihadi from Syria is granted citizenship to the United Kingdom.
00:25:42.720After being received, after being gifted that from the people of the United Kingdom, he goes out and is arrested for the rape of a woman.
00:25:53.040Whilst on bail for the rape of a woman, he slaughters Jews on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur.
00:26:03.720It points to, A, like, number one, fundamental problems in the Home Office in the UK to say that, well, you know, what, all cultures are equal.
00:26:14.620And so we're going to turn a blind eye to that sort of person coming to the country.
00:26:19.940But B, the ideological capture of the judiciary in this country is terrifying, Megan.
00:26:26.740So you may have heard as well that one of the big problems this country is facing is an illegal boats crisis.
00:26:32.180So I think a couple of days ago, there were over a thousand people coming in on rubber dinghies from Calais in France, across the English Channel, arrive on the beaches of Dover.
00:26:43.160And as a result of that, what do they do in the UK?
00:26:46.480They don't put them in detention centres and then move them eventually back to their country of origin.
00:27:03.580We don't get boats with foreigners arriving on our shores anymore because if you create a disincentive, people stop coming.
00:27:10.440In the UK, what happens is they put you in a hotel, they give you an allowance every week, and it is almost impossible to deport you because there is this legal framework which has been created all around international human rights law,
00:27:24.960which basically says if you are to be deported back to a country, you may be at risk of persecution.
00:27:31.620So once they arrive here, they're effectively stuck here.
00:27:34.400And there are some, again, it's almost like Babylon Bee-esque stories that you hear of reasons why judges have allowed these people, who are criminals, like an I'll do my best Tom Homan impersonation, if you arrive illegally, you're a criminal.
00:27:47.840And these judges find these ways to interpret international human rights law in order to keep them there.
00:27:53.880There was one judge the other day, and one of the reasons why this person couldn't be deported was because that his daughter did not like the taste of chicken nuggets back in his home country of Bulgaria.
00:28:06.200I can keep going for these sorts of insane reasons, but when you have these laws that can then get interpreted by lefty judges, the end result is once these people come here, you are stuck with them.
00:28:19.520And so the judiciary as well, and again, this also goes for the US, and you think about Soros-appointed judges as well, it is such an important part of this story and something which on the right, we really need to get right.
00:28:31.980So the thing is, you know, the people who came to America 30, 40, 50 years ago generally came for a better life, wanting to assimilate, wanting to be American and raise their kids as American Muslims.
00:28:48.360But the people who have come in the past 15 years don't seem to want to assimilate at all, for the most part.
00:28:54.940I mean, the vast majority of them in your country or in mine, and those people are a problem.
00:28:59.280And they call themselves asylum seekers or refugees, whatever the name is, but they seem to want to import their culture into our respective countries.
00:29:08.800They're the ones who are harassing women wearing tank tops on the streets of France, Germany, and the UK.
00:29:15.000And now in the UK, you mentioned the sex crimes.
00:29:17.100The Telegraph reported just this past March that foreigners were convicted of up to 23% of the sex crimes happening in the UK per the Ministry of Justice statistics there.
00:29:29.280So they don't make up 23% of the population yet, but they're committing 23% of the sex crimes.
00:29:37.060And then a further 8% on top of that are recorded from unknown nationalities.
00:29:42.860So we were talking about one-third of the sex crimes in the UK, and there was just a huge scandal that broke last spring of all these foreign nationals who are in the UK who are raping young girls and getting away with it.
00:30:00.580Like the whole system was covering up for them because they didn't want to confront the uncomfortable fact that these were brown and black men raping young white English girls.
00:30:12.920And they thought it was somehow racist to be throwing the full book at them.
00:30:21.200And thinking about an audience in America, I guess the closest equivalent would be turning a blind eye to crime committed in parts of the African-American community because of a historic guilt about the mistreatment of African-Americans.
00:30:38.700And of course, that is certainly the case that that has happened.
00:30:40.980But that doesn't mean that is an excuse not to treat people on their merits in this day and age.
00:30:48.100Which I'm not sure, Megan, how much on the show you've heard or spoken about the Pakistani Muslim grooming gang scandal in the UK.
00:30:58.260But Elon was going mad about it a few months ago, and we took a deep dive into it.
00:31:02.740And thank the Lord for Elon Musk for bringing that to the global consciousness, because I'm not sure it would have otherwise.
00:31:08.520But for the audience, very simply, for decades and decades, perhaps going back to the 1960s, 1970s, there have been largely Pakistani Muslim communities in working class parts of the UK that have set up grooming gangs and have sexually abused and in many cases murdered young white girls.
00:31:28.960And the police establishment, the politicians and the media have largely turned a blind eye because of cultural sensitivity and because of the fear of being called racist.
00:31:42.980In my opinion, it is not just the greatest scandal in modern UK history.
00:31:47.240It's one of the greatest scandals in modern Western history.
00:31:50.180Now, thank the Lord again that finally there is going to be an inquiry on this.
00:31:56.440But this story is, in many ways, the story of our times across the UK and the West, where we're willing to say, A, well, all cultures are equal, and therefore we need to appease bad behaviour, as opposed to standing up and saying, you know what?
00:32:13.820We have values as a Western liberal democracy.
00:32:18.100But also, maybe I'm being a bit too fluffy and philosophical there, we need to actually make sure that we are protecting women and children, and who cares if, you know, you're going to potentially offend a member of a minority community, because that's where, unfortunately, the UK found itself in the last 20-odd years.
00:32:37.240Well, for sure, we have to enforce the law, and in particular, the criminal law, but the thing that you're calling attention to is much bigger and, in some ways, more important, which is don't cede the culture.
00:32:50.560Don't allow in millions of foreigners whose values are different than yours, whose religion is different from the majority religion of your country, and who have no wish to assimilate and become British or American, in our case.
00:33:08.980So I can give you data, and I can give, you know, people who are on the left data.
00:33:14.620For example, in the UK, Afghan immigrants are 22 to 23 times more likely to commit sexual assault than someone who was born in the United Kingdom.
00:33:24.720They've got a whole list now where they go down, and you can basically see if you are from Afghanistan or Eritrea or Somalia, you are, by a magnitude higher, more likely to commit that.
00:33:37.100Now, of course, does that mean that everyone who comes from those countries is committing those crimes?
00:33:44.280But what it does mean, it is an unacceptable risk to actually, as part of your immigration policy, just open slather, allow people in from those countries which don't have compatible values.
00:33:56.420I was on GBN News the other night, and I was debating a former defence minister, you know, the Pete Hegseth equivalent in the UK, and he was disputing that data.
00:34:07.180And he was running with that same old line, which we've heard so many times before, we're all human beings, all cultures are equal.
00:34:13.880And I was trying to break through to him.
00:34:15.520I was trying to work out, how do you communicate this?
00:34:18.020And I said, Bill, mate, let's go back to first principles.
00:34:22.780Surely if you come from a country where, A, you've had little to no education, B, women are treated as second-class citizens, and C, it is a barbaric backwater.
00:34:35.240Think Afghanistan, where at the moment, you know, a woman reads in public, they are publicly beaten.
00:34:41.160If you are then to come to the UK, do you think you magically change your worldview overnight?
00:34:47.340Of course you're more likely to import those views in.
00:34:50.500But for some reason, and again, it is ideological, there is this disconnect where these people seem to think that if you come from a third world backwater,
00:34:59.080and then you arrive in the United States, suddenly you'll magically become, you know, a Western liberal advocate, and you'll, you know, start quoting Thomas Jefferson, and you'll start, you know, pledging, you know, to the flag, and you'll have the flag up in your garden.
00:35:40.660And this is one of the other funny things that you hear in this argument is it is amazing how lefties don't seem to understand per capita statistics.
00:35:49.120So one of the things you'll always hear is something like, well, what about all the white people that are committing crimes?
00:35:55.200There's still many more, you know, white rapists than there are foreign rapists in the United Kingdom, or in, say, Australia, for example.
00:36:03.640And of course, the answer is per capita.
00:36:05.360They are dramatically overrepresented.
00:36:07.640But the other point to make is, unfortunately, there are going to be scumbags in every country that you're stuck with.
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00:39:59.280Thousands of people are being detained and questioned for sending messages that cause, quote, annoyance, inconvenience, or anxiety to others, which is really dangerous because this—one of the things that can get you arrested is if you say something considered hateful about Muslims.
00:40:16.640And this is exactly the thing that Christopher Hitchens, a Brit himself, was warning against back in 2009 in what's become a very famous clip.
00:40:32.160Resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing.
00:40:38.740You will be told you can't complain because you're Islamophobic.
00:40:42.760The term is already being introduced into the culture as if it was an accusation of race hatred, for example, or bigotry, whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
00:40:58.140They are the symptoms of surrender, very often ecumenically offered to you by men of God in other robes, Christian and Jewish and smarmy ecumenical.
00:41:07.120These are the ones who hold open the gates for the barbarians.
00:41:11.660The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open for them.
00:41:15.860And it's your own preachers who will do it for you and your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.
00:41:39.900I don't want actual Islam, like the deep tenets of Islam taking over my country because it's inconsistent with our fundamental values as a people.
00:42:13.700I am so insanely jealous of your First Amendment.
00:42:18.360I would dearly, dearly love to have the equivalent of a First Amendment in the United Kingdom, but we don't have that.
00:42:25.980That statistic, again, which many people who are watching the show at the moment in the US may not even believe.
00:42:32.18030 people a day, give or take, are being arrested for tweets or social media posts or whatever.
00:42:38.980But what you alluded to is it is all because you may have caused distress or offence, which, again, is entirely subjective.
00:42:49.180I'm offended by the fact that my free speech is being taken away, just as much as someone else may be offended by some sort of silly comment that may be made.
00:42:57.600Now, the problem that I think we have on the right, and I think there's problems here in the US as well, I don't think the arguments for free speech in the US are being made as strongly as perhaps they once were, is it is sometimes very difficult to make the argument to say you should be allowed to say hateful, nasty, bigoted, awful things, because on balance, it is still better to have that out in the open than to have one centralised body deciding what you can and cannot say.
00:43:25.220But here's the thing. If you do make that argument, a lot of people on the left will say, oh, okay, so you're in favour of Nazism, are you? Or, oh, okay, you're in favour of racism, are you? And it's not the point.
00:43:37.100But where we need to get to, and it shows like this, and Megan, you've been incredibly strong on this, how do we make the argument better for free speech in countries like the UK and the US? Because particularly in the UK, it is being taken away bit by bit by bit.
00:43:52.440We are watching things over in the UK that are really telling. We talked about what happened on Yom Kippur. Interestingly, Muhammad has overtaken Noah as the most popular boy's name in the UK.
00:44:09.340And there's different ways to spell Muhammad, but the multiple ways of spelling it are all in the top 100. But Muhammad has overtaken Noah as the number one most popular name for boys in the UK. That's telling.
00:44:52.680Member of Parliament, that's the more liberal group, calling for flags to be removed, citing alleged safety risks, saying they make constituents uncomfortable in their own communities.
00:45:05.020He wants the flags removed from lampposts, saying, again, this is a safety issue, he claims. His name is Jeevan Sander. And while he went through the exercise of saying, oh, well, some of the flags have become like in disrepair and they risk detaching and falling into the mud.
00:45:22.420He's also making clear that they think these flags are unwelcoming to many of his constituents and made them uncomfortable in their own community. Here is the soundbite of this guy.
00:45:37.140It's time to take down the lamppost flags. And, you know, because you've seen it online and I see it in my inbox, that this does make people feel uneasy.
00:45:47.180And they ask what message are these flags supposed to be sending? Now, look, I'll take people at their words. People who say this is about national pride. I'm proud of my country, too. And I'm proud of our flag.
00:46:00.880But I do understand why others feel that it's about excluding people, why others feel that it's about saying who belongs here and who doesn't.
00:46:13.640We're one British people. We're proud of our country. We should be standing together underneath our flag, not some of us looking up with unease. That's not the British way.
00:46:24.540That's why today I'll be asking the Reform County Council to take down the flags of the lampposts.
00:46:36.640And it's the reason I was laughing, Meg, is having lived in the US. Again, I can hear the audience just going, how utterly bizarre, because a country which is so proud of its flag.
00:46:47.720Traditionally, the UK probably hasn't quite been like that.
00:46:50.660And I think this is something which I absolutely love about the United States is the overt patriotism.
00:46:58.100But just because of the British psyche, it isn't quite like that.
00:47:01.560It is probably more of a quiet, reserved, you know, sense of comfort in one's country.
00:47:09.760But in the last few months, and this has been led by so many of the problems that we've just talked about, largely working class Brits have said, right, we need to send some sort of a signal that we are, A, against mass immigration.
00:47:25.380B, we are uncomfortable with where the country is going.
00:47:28.360And the answer has been what's been dubbed the Raise the Flag campaign.
00:47:32.280And it's a wonderful tribute to the power of social media, because it's all been led by grassroots social media campaigns.
00:47:38.160So across the country, admittedly, again, in largely northern parts of England.
00:47:42.420So London, for example, you're not going to see it.
00:47:44.320It would be like the equivalent of, you know, someone in West Village showing that sort of patriotism.
00:47:50.240But in many parts of the UK, there is a sense of pride, and that is being demonstrated through the flags.
00:47:55.920But it started this culture war, because you have people like that, you know, idiot that we just saw, who said, well, unfortunately, the flag of the country makes some people from oppressed minority groups feel uncomfortable, despite the fact that they're more than happy to have Palestinian flags waving down the streets of London every single week.
00:48:16.840There was a British soccer player, a guy called Gary Neville, he played for England about 85 times, you know, I think, you know, Tom Brady equivalent.
00:48:25.160And he now runs a construction company.
00:48:27.140And he came out the other day and said he saw a flag on one of his sites.
00:48:31.180And he said, immediately, I took it down, because it was obviously violent and threatening to the minority people in the country.
00:48:41.440But here's the thing, Megan, if we can't rally around that one thing, the flag should be the one thing that unites everyone, black, white, Muslim, Christian, atheist, whatever.
00:48:53.160If you don't have that one thing that binds you together, then you don't, what do you have left?
00:48:59.660And this is unfortunately where we are getting to in the UK.
00:49:02.240And if you look at places like Minneapolis, unfortunately, there is a trend line in the US, we are entering a period where you will just have sectarian ghettos, which are divided along ethnic and cultural lines and run according to the values of whatever hellhole country that those people have come from initially.
00:49:23.660And this is the warning that Americans who are watching this need to heed when you look at the United Kingdom, because whilst it's not there to the same extent, I'm sure people, and again, if you're watching this from Minneapolis, you would be seeing this day in, day out.
00:49:37.200But if we don't find that common unifying thread that binds us all together, we will become sectarian countries that are governed by cultures that are antithetical to what the founding fathers in the US and the drafters of the Magna Carta in the UK believe so strongly in.
00:49:56.420Right, like free speech, like separation of church and state, like women's rights and minority rights.
00:50:03.560Speaking of Minneapolis, there is a mayoral candidate there, Omar Fateh, and this guy's been making a lot of headlines for his positions.
00:50:12.400He's running for mayor of Minneapolis, which is already run by a very far left woke guy, Jacob Fry, who is on his knees with his mask on.
00:50:22.000This is the guy who took the knee at George Floyd's funeral crying.
00:51:17.260The greatest domestic threat facing the United States comes from, quote, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocate for the superiority of the white race.
00:51:32.280This guy is a he's in the Minneapolis State Senate.
00:51:44.640Now, he actually referred to Somalia as home when he was running for his for office home.
00:51:54.320And they're not even as bad as Dearborn, Michigan, which is run by majority Muslims now.
00:52:01.760And where I'll just give you one more.
00:52:03.260Well, by the way, we're talking to Will Kingston, co-host of the Saturday Five on GB News about cultural non assimilation by more radical Muslims in his country and ours.
00:52:15.040In Dearborn, Michigan, not far away, there was a Muslim mayor.
00:52:23.500His name is Abdullah Hamoud, who told a local resident, a Christian minister named Ted Barnum, who was objecting to streets being named after a pro terror Arab leader that he needed to get out, told the white Christian leader he should get out of Dearborn if he didn't like it.
00:53:06.260Well, the thing is, these are at the moment still as a percentage of the entire population, small groups, but they have national consequences.
00:53:15.900It's that sort of group in Dearborn, Michigan was fundamentally the reason why Josh Shapiro wasn't the vice presidential candidate for the Democrats.
00:53:23.520And instead, it was that absolute non-entity Tim Walts.
00:53:27.660It's because the Democrats were scared of putting a Jew into that position because they were scared of losing votes from Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:53:37.000These things aren't just isolated to these particular little cultural areas.
00:53:43.180If you think, well, look, you know, I live in, you know, a plush little part of Manhattan.
00:53:50.200There are national ramifications to all of this stuff, again, both in the U.S. and in the U.K.
00:53:59.900But the other thing that I would say about the, I'm sorry, Megan, I've forgotten the name of the Somali candidate who was running to be mayor.
00:54:15.000What Omar would say, and you would cop this every day as well, the people who are opposing me are just trying to promote division.
00:54:23.240You know, you would be, you know, Megan Kelly, you know, she is trying to divide us.
00:54:26.760Will Kingston on JB News, trying to divide us.
00:54:29.200Whenever you hear that expression from the left, what they say, people who are trying to divide us, what they mean is people who we disagree with.
00:54:37.440What he just said in that clip, I can't possibly think of something which would be a more divisive thing to say.
00:54:44.040And yet the reason why they say this is because that there is one establishment narrative that they want to enforce.
00:54:50.740And if you do not go along with it, you are the divider.
00:54:54.660And because we are the kind and compassionate left, we're therefore have the moral authority to be able to run that narrative.
00:55:05.680So I think, you know, across the board, if you are – I'm not even going to say on the right.
00:55:11.220If you are sensible, we need to push back against this division nonsense because, quite frankly, it is just a tool for left-wing people to say, go along with our story.
00:55:20.220Or otherwise, we are going to bully you, we are going to oppress you, we are going to censor you, we're going to shut you up.
00:55:26.860No, and Islamicists, they don't want to live peacefully next door to you.
00:55:31.000They want to impose their way of life and their religion on you.
00:55:35.200It's completely antithetical to Western values.
00:55:40.500We just want to move to America or the UK, which we think is beautiful and has, you know, wonderful education systems.
00:55:45.940No, they actually want to change the way we are living.
00:55:50.160By the way, in his city, in Minneapolis, you've got – or in Minnesota, his state, it's 82,000 and change.
00:55:59.680People of Somali descent are living in Minnesota right now.
00:56:03.380It's home to the largest Somali population in the United States.
00:56:06.88058% of them were born in Somalia, so it's not like they're third generation.
00:56:12.440They were born in Somalia and came here relatively recently.
00:56:15.04034% of them speak English less than very well, 40% are below the poverty line, 42% of those over 25 years old have less than a high school degree, and only 68% of working-age Somali adults are employed.
00:56:32.860So you've got some, what, one-third, just about, who are unemployed.
00:56:37.440So this is not exactly our best group, and why we'd want to be importing more of them remains a mystery other than this multiculturalism lie that we just discussed.
00:56:49.460Here's just – now, we're switching back and forth between Minneapolis, Minnesota, and Dearborn, Michigan, but let me go back to Dearborn, Michigan, where the mayor is really concerned about the Christian minister and his objection to naming the street after this guy.
00:57:01.720Here's what's happening on the streets of Dearborn, Michigan.
00:57:14.160We live in one of the rottenest countries that has ever existed on this earth.
00:57:19.220It's not genocide, Joe, that has to go.
00:57:21.420It's the entire system that has to go.
00:57:23.880Any system that would allow such atrocities and such devilry to happen and would support it, such a system does not deserve to exist on God's earth.
00:57:35.260And so when these fools ask us if Israel has the right to exist, the chant, death to Israel, has become the most logical chant shouted across the world today.
00:58:08.72040,000 Muslims pat the streets in Dearborn, Michigan for a religious Aberdeen march, raising red flags on the increasing Islamic influence in America.
00:58:18.120Many are now pointing to calls that have been made by Muslims to take down America, saying their people are willing to fight and give their lives to bring America down.
00:58:27.080The event is being described as the largest Aberdeen procession in the United States.
00:58:32.280It's a Shia religious event observed primarily by Shia Muslims and celebrates the martyrdom of Imam Hussein, the grandson of their prophet Muhammad.
00:58:42.240This annual pilgrimage draws millions worldwide to Karbala in Iraq, but it's now starting to build on American soil.
00:58:49.260The event transformed a typical suburban roadway into a sea of black-clad marchers chanting religious slogans, waving flags and carrying banners, a scene more reminiscent of the Middle East than the Midwest.
00:59:02.840It's really crazy to see, and the vast majority of the media, well, completely ignores it.
00:59:08.680Well, Donald Trump has done us an enormous favour in the West.
00:59:16.200Obviously, he's achieved one of the great geopolitical achievements in modern history, but it will also lead to an interesting social experiment, Megan.
00:59:24.380And that is, this peace plan, and assuming it goes ahead, look, you know, there are still some ifs and buts that will need to take place, but this looks like an extraordinary, extraordinary achievement.
00:59:34.680Do we think that these sorts of marches will stop?
00:59:38.220Do we think that the pro-genocide crowd will suddenly, you know, pack up and go home?
00:59:45.340My guess is because these protests that we've seen over the last two years have never been really about Palestinian statehood.
00:59:53.860They've never really been about the plight of the Palestinians.
00:59:57.220They've been about, A, the destruction of Israel, and B, more generally to that clip, the destruction of Western civilisation.
01:00:04.680So what I think we will see, even if they get absolutely everything that they have asked for, and from what I can see in that peace plan, they're getting pretty much everything that they have asked for, you will continue to see these types of protests.
01:00:19.640And so, therefore, the only answer in my mind is that countries like the UK and the US need to fundamentally rethink how they approach immigration, because you're not going to be able to change the minds of people who are radicalised and who, from a very young age, have a particular ideology which is antithetical to the West.
01:00:40.640And if I may just add one more thing, Megan, it is extraordinary that some of these countries don't get that.
01:00:46.980So on the same day of that Yom Kippur attack that we mentioned, there was a Labor minister, Labor being the equivalent of the Democrats, who said,
01:00:56.700we're proud to announce that we've just let in a new wave of Gazan students into the UK on scholarships to study in universities.
01:01:07.000Now, I think it's a tragedy that those people have been brought up in a society where she's run by her maths, where they've been indoctrinated in their schooling system to hate Jews from a young age, where there is obviously a two-tier society where women are treaded as inferior.
01:01:24.400That's a tragedy. But at the same time, it's happened, and those people will, more likely than not, hold those views when they get onto campus at a UK university.
01:01:35.500Australia is also letting in Gazan refugees at the same time.
01:01:38.400So we've got to stop and think for a second, do we want to prioritise that warm and fuzzy feeling that you apparently get when you're helping the less fortunate in bad, war-torn parts of the world?
01:01:51.240Or do we want to prioritise the safety and wellbeing of the citizens of the UK and the United States?
01:01:58.060I think for me it's a pretty obvious answer.
01:02:00.040It's really crazy when you see it, like, spreading.
01:02:06.340And we're about to elect Zoran Mamdani as the mayor of New York City, whose wife is in the news today for celebrating the death of a Palestinian influencer who openly glorified the 10-7 attacks.
01:02:25.300And she openly wrote beloved Jafarawi on her Instagram story with four broken heart emojis on Sunday.
01:02:35.480She's super sad that this guy who absolutely loved 10-7 was killed.
01:02:41.020That's going to be our new first lady of the greatest city in the world, bar none, New York, as of November, if the polls don't change.
01:02:48.580Which Mario, or not Mario Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo is now within some 10 to 12 points of Mamdani.
01:02:55.860But Curtis Lewa, the Republican, has 15% of the vote and will not drop out.
01:03:00.220I can't stand Andrew Cuomo at all, but I would take him any day over this Zoran Mamdani, who's going to bring an entirely different set of values to office, some of which we've discussed here, some of which are just far-left socialist values.
01:03:15.400But either way, he's about to ruin the greatest city in the world.
01:03:18.860And as someone who has lived in New York and had the great privilege of living in New York, it breaks my heart to say it.
01:03:27.760But it also goes to show that there is this Western, liberal, well-educated group of people who are willing to overlook all of the challenges that we've just mentioned in order to virtue signal.
01:03:42.640And part of me, Megan, and this will sound fatalistic, this will sound, we can argue about this, but part of me goes, we need to see the consequences of the actions of someone like a Mamdani for people to wake up and realise that you cannot just, you know, put up placards and posters and virtue signal and everything's going to be okay.
01:05:15.280And unless people here find the stones to speak out the way you did on GB News over there, once you've gotten to your breaking point, we're going to get a whole lot more just like this.
01:05:38.680And it is incredibly difficult if you've got a job and you've got kids to feed and you've got a mortgage to pay to go out and to say the type of stuff that we are saying.
01:05:49.720But I stress to everyone who has the ability to be able to do so or the courage to be able to do so, either support people like Megan Kelly or support, you know, people who are standing up in the media and are saying these things.
01:06:04.000Or remember that if you say something in a sensible way, a logical way, there's no need to be aggressive or whatever.
01:06:13.280But if you are logical, if you are sensible, and if you are principled, we can change this discourse.
01:06:20.280It will just require a bit of courage.
01:06:56.160And I actually felt a need to stand up on this issue.
01:07:00.260And then I saw your piece and I thought there's somebody actually doing it in his country too.
01:07:05.340And today, Will, I'm actually headed to the White House for the posthumous awarding to Charlie of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
01:07:14.660And I just thought this is a perfect day to stand up for something that was near and dear to his heart.
01:07:20.380To your point, no one's asking for open maltreatment or mistreatment of anybody who happens to be Muslim.
01:07:25.660But people who are Muslim and trying to change the UK or the United States or Western countries into something that is more akin to Somalia or Gaza are going to have a fight on their hands.
01:07:37.340We do need to stand up to them and fight for the countries that we love.
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