The Megyn Kelly Show - Free Speech Crackdowns, Immigrant Crime, and When Diversity Isn't Our Strength, with Will Kingston ｜ Ep. 1171

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00:00:30.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.380 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.740 President Trump, back at the White House, what a whirlwind 36 hours he had.

00:00:51.260 In the afterglow of declaring yesterday, quote,

00:00:53.460 This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East. 0.93

00:00:57.620 My God, please let that be true.

00:01:00.000 Mr. Trump making the remarks during his trip yesterday to Israel and Egypt, where he celebrated his historic peace deal to end the war in Gaza with other world leaders.

00:01:09.860 And not just end the war, but they're very much hoping this is the beginning of a new dawn in that region.

00:01:16.660 One that actually is characterized by peace and not never-ending fighting, as it's been for decades now.

00:01:26.520 Speaking of power, President Trump yesterday evaporated any doubts on who is the most powerful leader in the world in ways both figuratively and literally.

00:01:35.420 He and French President Emmanuel Macron locked in what looks more like an arm wrestle than a handshake.

00:01:41.420 For the listening audience, Macron's got his arm around Trump's back.

00:01:44.680 They're holding hands.

00:01:46.180 No one will let go first.

00:01:48.280 Now it's morphed into, like, more of a bro handshake with, like, you know, where you clasp with the thumbs.

00:01:54.320 No one will let go.

00:01:55.380 They're still holding.

00:01:56.760 Trump's pulling Macron into him.

00:01:58.220 Macron's pulling Trump back to him.

00:02:00.000 Macron puts his hand on Trump's elbow.

00:02:02.320 Finally, Macron lets go and walks away.

00:02:05.400 Okay.

00:02:06.620 It called to mind Trump's handshake with Macron on Bastille Day back in 2017.

00:02:10.940 That lasted more than 25 seconds.

00:02:13.980 Some things never change.

00:02:15.040 I mean, honestly, Trudeau, like, you should just give it up.

00:02:17.480 Like, there's no question, as between the two of you, who the tougher man is.

00:02:22.140 Like, it's fine for you to try to pretend, and that's Macron, I mean.

00:02:25.600 For you to, like, pretend.

00:02:26.700 And Macron and Trudeau actually remind me of each other in some ways, but Macron's a little bit more of a man.

00:02:32.580 In any event, I really think these people need to give it up.

00:02:35.940 Like, don't get into a pissing contest with Donald Trump.

00:02:38.080 It doesn't end well for most of the men who do.

00:02:40.520 And things did not go well for British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who's facing ridicule after he appeared to think that Trump was inviting him to speak at a summit with world leaders in Egypt.

00:02:52.140 Watch.

00:02:52.400 Where's the United Kingdom?

00:02:54.900 Where's my friend?

00:02:56.280 Where?

00:02:57.160 Come here.

00:02:59.100 Is everything going good?

00:03:00.580 Break it.

00:03:01.120 It's very nice that you're here.

00:03:02.880 These people all came in, like, 20-minute notice, and I think it's fantastic.

00:03:09.420 And we have so many others, and just so many others.

00:03:12.140 Our friend Glenn Greenwald writing on X, imagine going from the world's most powerful empire to whatever this is in just a few decades.

00:03:22.920 The way Sir Keir happily and eagerly jumps up when called, then slinks back once quickly dismissed, all by someone who doesn't know his name.

00:03:31.720 Glenn is so smart.

00:03:32.660 He's always got the right dynamic when he looks at these situations.

00:03:35.240 Joining me now is someone we've never spoken to before, but who knows the weakness of Prime Minister Starmer all too well.

00:03:42.500 Will Kingston is an Australian journalist who lives in London.

00:03:46.420 He hosts the Fire at Will podcast and is a co-host of the UK's GB News' The Saturday Five.

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00:04:53.960 Will, welcome to the show.

00:04:55.920 G'day, Megan.

00:04:56.720 How are you?

00:04:58.020 Doing great.

00:04:58.740 I love Aussies who are in the UK, like my friend Dan Wooten and others.

00:05:03.200 And so your commentary the other day caught my attention and used to go on GB News all the time as well.

00:05:08.440 Great channel.

00:05:09.160 Um, but you are facing what's happening to the UK in a very acute way.

00:05:15.880 And like, while we're all celebrating this peace deal today and absolutely want peace for the Middle East, one thing we don't want here in America is a ton more Muslims emigrating into the United States. 1.00

00:05:26.960 Sorry, but we don't.

00:05:28.820 And in the UK, it's already happened.

00:05:30.660 And you've been speaking out about it.

00:05:32.500 So it'd be great if we could have a peace deal where the Palestinians stay where they are. 1.00

00:05:37.060 And it's rebuilt.

00:05:38.840 Gaza's rebuilt.

00:05:39.660 And they have a real home they can hang out in and raise their families in.

00:05:43.140 But the solution is definitely not for them to come here or continuing to flood into places like the United Kingdom, which has already changed, it looks like, irrevocably.

00:05:54.440 You tell me, what's your overall take on what's happening there?

00:05:57.660 Yeah, well, as an aside, that clip that we just saw with Trump and Starmer was a microcosm of the state of the UK at the moment.

00:06:05.680 The nerdy loser kid who thinks for a second that maybe the cool kid is going to show him some attention, but unfortunately put back in his box pretty quickly.

00:06:17.020 The word irrevocably, Megan, is an interesting one. 1.00

00:06:20.240 And this is the question, you know, on JPE News, on my podcast, but in the pubs across the UK, we talk about a lot because we've seen the decline that's happened.

00:06:29.100 And we do wonder, is there a chance of reversal?

00:06:32.600 That is the key question this country faces.

00:06:34.540 Now, this country's gone through dark moments before.

00:06:38.880 You had, you know, the Vikings were raiding the countryside a thousand years ago. 1.00

00:06:44.340 You had the IMF in the 1970s bail out the country.

00:06:48.420 You've had world wars.

00:06:49.960 It's not like, and just like the US, it's not like there haven't been dark moments.

00:06:54.880 The thing which concerns a lot of people is economic problems can be fixed.

00:07:00.440 You can change tax policies.

00:07:02.140 You can change regulations.

00:07:03.300 The concern that so many people have is that swift demographic change can't just be reversed overnight.

00:07:11.260 If you change your demographics, and make no mistake, the demographic change in the UK has been extraordinary in a short period of time.

00:07:20.260 That is irreversible.

00:07:22.060 And so a lot of people are looking at the next three to four years before a general election in the UK.

00:07:27.740 And they are saying this could be the last best hope for what was once the greatest country in the world before the US took on that mantle.

00:07:38.740 I know this really caught your attention.

00:07:41.500 I mean, it's been catching your attention, but you made international headlines when you really spoke out about this problem after the attack on Yom Kippur, the most holy Jewish holiday of the year, on Jews in the UK.

00:07:56.980 By a guy named Jihadi, Jihadi al-Shami, which means jihad.

00:08:04.320 We know what that is.

00:08:05.260 And then from Syria.

00:08:06.500 So it's like Jihadi from Syria. 0.89

00:08:09.040 This guy unleashes a terrorist attack on Jews in the UK, on Yom Kippur, driving his vehicle into a crowd outside of a synagogue in Manchester, then attacking others with a knife.

00:08:20.020 Two Jewish men were killed.

00:08:21.680 At least three others were hospitalized.

00:08:23.320 And the guy, by the way, there's no question the motivation, because he phoned the police claiming to pledge allegiance to the so-called Islamic State.

00:08:33.320 So we didn't – over here, the big game is, gee, we'll never know the motive, even if it's written on the bullets.

00:08:38.680 There's no question what the motive was.

00:08:40.320 Many in the political class are still trying to say that.

00:08:43.900 Megan Macken's state.

00:08:44.860 So you go out on your show and said, in part, the following.

00:08:50.320 This is on the show, the Saturday Five on GB News, top seven.

00:08:54.700 I'm done.

00:08:55.440 I'm done with the euphemisms.

00:08:56.900 I'm done with the crocodile tears.

00:08:58.500 I'm done with the calls for unity.

00:09:00.380 I'm done being told not to hate.

00:09:02.220 And I'm done skirting around uncomfortable truths.

00:09:05.720 So let's list them.

00:09:07.060 Uncomfortable truth one.

00:09:08.780 Multiculturalism hasn't merely failed.

00:09:10.480 It has embedded sectarian violence on the streets of the UK and cost countless lives, most recently the lives of Adrian Daubley and Melvin Kravitz in Manchester.

00:09:21.940 Again, strength and love to their families.

00:09:24.620 Uncomfortable truth two.

00:09:26.460 Diversity is not our strength.

00:09:28.120 It has never been our strength.

00:09:29.800 And in fact, it has now become our greatest weakness economically and culturally.

00:09:34.320 And I'm yet to hear any coherent argument for its value that doesn't default to, well, we get good restaurants out of it, which isn't good enough justification for complete cultural and social fracture.

00:09:45.540 And besides, we've got the recipes now anyway.

00:09:48.660 Uncomfortable truth three. 0.99

00:09:50.680 Islamism is a cancer on the UK. 1.00

00:09:53.780 And more citizens will die as a result of appeasing it. 0.99

00:09:58.580 We need to say these uncomfortable truths loudly.

00:10:00.900 And whilst we still can.

00:10:05.120 Hear, hear.

00:10:05.900 Good for you.

00:10:06.540 You reminded me a lot of my pal Charlie Kirk as I watched you because this is a third rail.

00:10:12.380 One of the ones you're not allowed to touch, especially in the UK.

00:10:15.220 And you fully embraced it.

00:10:17.180 Tell me why.

00:10:17.960 Like, was it just the Yom Kippur attack or was it more?

00:10:20.660 No, it's more than that.

00:10:21.560 And, you know, rewatching that monologue, I stand by what I said.

00:10:24.580 Probably may have gone a bit too heavy on the orange, on the makeup, rewatching that again.

00:10:28.300 But we are.

00:10:28.940 Some of the best people do.

00:10:30.900 That's exactly right.

00:10:32.620 It's a tribute to the Donald.

00:10:35.520 I say it because I think it is reflective of where many people are at now in the United Kingdom, in Australia, across the Anglosphere, in that four years ago, five years ago, we were bullied into silence on these matters.

00:10:48.640 You were told that if you had legitimate questions about Islam, you were called a racist.

00:10:53.800 And make no mistake, this is a very deliberate attempt from the left to conflate race with culture.

00:11:00.440 Race should be something that should be off limits in terms of criticism.

00:11:05.300 You know, we know that.

00:11:06.160 We know this isn't controversial stuff.

00:11:08.240 But religion is a choice.

00:11:09.880 A cultural decision is a choice.

00:11:11.800 And any sort of choice, you should be able to criticise.

00:11:14.320 And it is blatantly obvious, Megan, and you know this, most of your audience knows this, there are legitimate questions to be asked around Islam when it comes to the treatment of women, when it comes to the treatment of minority groups, when it comes to the separation between church or mosque and state.

00:11:31.640 And you know what, the answer that you always get is, well, you know, I know a lovely Muslim lady or a lovely Muslim man who lives around the corner from me.

00:11:40.020 And that's fine.

00:11:40.700 No one's saying that there aren't nice people who are Muslims.

00:11:43.340 But the problem comes, A, when you get to scale.

00:11:46.920 And the reality is that out of the, what, 50-odd Muslim countries in the world, 47 of them aren't democracies.

00:11:54.160 The three that are are pretty dodgy democracies.

00:11:56.460 40 of them are authoritarian hellholes.

00:11:59.420 So it's very obvious that when you get to scale in Islamic cultures, you face these problems. 1.00

00:12:05.980 And the problem for the UK is that we are rapidly approaching a point where there is going to be scale.

00:12:12.380 By the 2050s or 2060s, I can't recall the exact number, but you're going to get to a point where somewhere between 20 to 25% of the population could be following the Islamic faith.

00:12:22.660 Now, in a country where there isn't compulsory voting, interestingly, in Australia there actually is, but say the US or the UK, you just need to have a sectarian voting bloc that can mobilize around an Islamic candidate and a hardline Islamic candidate at that.

00:12:40.160 And suddenly that scale I just mentioned means that you can have fundamental changes to the culture and an undermining of the Western liberal values that we in the US and the UK hold dear.

00:12:53.600 This problem has been on the radar of those paying attention for quite some time.

00:13:00.800 And just we're going to get to this, but just so the listening audience in the United States knows, this is our problem, too.

00:13:06.120 We're a lot bigger than the UK, but we have a similar issue.

00:13:09.880 Muslims are now in the majority in Dearborn, Michigan.

00:13:12.400 That's where Rashida Tlaib is a representative for. 1.00

00:13:17.640 In Minnesota, there's a huge contingent.

00:13:20.800 That's where Ilhan Omar was elected from.

00:13:24.200 And you've now got the open call to prayer happening five times a day on the streets of some of these cities in Minnesota and in Dearborn.

00:13:33.280 Five times a day where you hear the call to prayer and then the open praying, Allahu Akbar.

00:13:40.220 Do we have that, Robert?

00:13:41.480 Let's play that.

00:13:42.400 Stand by.

00:13:45.900 I think it's Sot 14.

00:13:48.420 The city of Minneapolis changed its noise ordinance, now allowing the Islamic call to prayer to be broadcast from speakers year-round five times a day.

00:13:57.700 In tonight's Weekend Journal, David Schumann of WCCO reports it is a first for a major US city.

00:14:09.300 This is Minneapolis.

00:14:10.340 The Muslim call to prayer, recited in here, heard out there.

00:14:17.060 It is a very simple message to share the greatness of God and to call people to success.

00:14:22.780 Five times a day, Muslims gather to pray at mosques.

00:14:27.460 But the broadcast for the pre-dawn and nighttime prayers weren't allowed in Minneapolis until now.

00:14:33.580 The city eliminated time constraints from the part of its noise ordinance related to religious worship.

00:14:38.540 In the summer, that means the call could go out as early as 3.30 a.m. and as late as 11 p.m.

00:14:44.160 3.30 a.m. people in Minneapolis hearing the call to prayer and then everybody's down on their knees saying, Allahu Akbar.

00:14:51.960 This is happening in the United States, but it's overwhelming already in the UK, which opened its borders about 15 years ago and is now paying the price.

00:15:01.880 Well, you know, the interesting thing about that clip, Megan, is how that the local council or authority change their ordinances in order to make this happen.

00:15:11.880 And it's a small example, but it's a very powerful example of how countries like the UK and the US are going out of their way to change their rules, their customs, their laws, their regulations in order to be kind and tolerant and to embrace this multicultural ideology, which we have been, which has been thrust upon us now for 20 or 30 years.

00:15:38.340 I grew up in a school in Sydney in Australia.

00:15:41.680 I remember in the curriculum, multiculturalism was just taught as this inarguable good. 0.99

00:15:48.200 It was just something which you should accept.

00:15:49.640 Tolerance.

00:15:50.660 Tolerance, kindness, compassion, diversity, all that sort of stuff.

00:15:54.480 And I was thinking about this and I was thinking when these people say this stuff, all they ever do really is they say, A, well, you get good restaurants out of the deal or B, they just keep using the word diversity.

00:16:07.880 As if it is a good in and of itself, I'm yet to hear the business case for multiculturalism or diversity.

00:16:17.040 I'm yet to hear actually, right, okay, there are obviously the problems of sectarian violence that this causes.

00:16:23.580 There are obviously the problems of the dilution of the culture.

00:16:26.660 And I just don't think it's good enough for countries like Australia or the UK or the US to say, well, you know what, just because we get, you know, good kebabs out of the deal, suddenly we need to start diminishing our own culture. 0.63

00:16:42.040 And I think more people need to start making this argument with a bit more courage and a bit more intelligence because we are on the right side of this argument.

00:16:52.340 But we've been bullied by a relatively small, powerful elite across these countries for too long.

00:16:58.260 And when you can put logic back against that, I think it is an argument that we can win.

00:17:02.360 And Trump has shown that in the US.

00:17:03.780 I mean, there is no way that one of these large Middle Eastern countries, whether it's Saudi Arabia or, you know, beyond, wants an influx of Caucasian Americans or Brits who refuse to assimilate and want to change culture there. 0.78

00:17:20.800 You know, a bunch of feminists from the Upper West Side moving to Saudi is not something they desire, and they don't need to desire it. 1.00

00:17:29.620 Who could blame them?

00:17:30.880 They have their own culture, their own ways, and that's fine for them.

00:17:33.820 That's one of the things Trump understands.

00:17:35.520 He doesn't need to change everybody else's culture.

00:17:38.180 There are opportunities to work with people economically, understanding they're different than we are.

00:17:42.740 But this wasn't the approach.

00:17:44.580 I mean, I remember when I was on Fox News back around 2010, 2015, that whole time frame, the biggest story in the world was, in particular in Germany, Angela Merkel opening up the German borders, in particular to Syrian refugees.

00:17:58.340 And the UK was doing it too, all in the name of tolerance.

00:18:01.380 And now here we are 15 years later, and the cultures have fundamentally changed.

00:18:05.620 These people did not assimilate.

00:18:08.740 Yep.

00:18:09.420 Tolerance and historic guilt.

00:18:10.800 The German example is a very good one, and obviously historic guilt is rife within Germany, which is one of the reasons they did that.

00:18:18.140 You mentioned the Upper West Side.

00:18:19.400 I lived in New York for a few years.

00:18:20.740 I saw this.

00:18:21.680 And the trend line that you've seen on the left is so bizarre.

00:18:26.200 You know, if you actually looked at this, it could be a Babylon Bee article in that you have this bizarre combination now of far left, loony, progressive identity politics warriors,

00:18:37.060 and leftists, and regressive conservative Muslims. 0.50

00:18:42.520 And it is so obviously an incompatible combination with the one thread that binds them together, which is a desire to tear down Western civilisation.

00:18:52.920 Now, I don't think that thread is enough to hold that coalition together in the long term.

00:18:57.900 But that is what is happening on the left.

00:18:59.660 That is what is behind the rise of people like Mamdani.

00:19:02.960 That is what is behind the rise of the far left in the UK as well.

00:19:07.440 It is an incompatible coalition with the one exception that the goal is to tear down what we have built and cherished over thousands of years,

00:19:18.120 and then what the US progressed and built upon from 1776.

00:19:24.500 And to your point, there are definitely Muslims here and in the UK who have assimilated and just want to live an American life. 0.77

00:19:32.720 And that's great.

00:19:33.540 Nobody has any problem with them.

00:19:35.180 It's those who want to Islamicize their new countries to whom we object and whom we must fight. 0.99

00:19:43.000 Because we don't want to Islamicize the United States of America, nor do you want to Islamicize the UK. 0.87

00:19:48.460 Because, as Charlie was saying in a special we did, I was running clips of him two Sundays ago, Islam is not compatible with Western values. 1.00

00:19:56.920 It cannot become the majority.

00:19:58.800 We do not want that to become the dominant cultural or religious strain in our country or yours for really good reasons, some of which you hit on in your monologue.

00:20:07.900 What do you put it down to, Megan?

00:20:10.880 Because, again, for me, and I think for you and for your audience, most sensible people, it is very obvious that in Islamic culture, particularly fundamentalist Islamic cultures, but I would even argue with moderate Muslims, it is obvious that women are second-class citizens. 0.99

00:20:26.160 It is obvious that minority groups are treated appallingly, and yet the very same people who will march out on the streets with rainbow flags in saying, we need to protect these oppressed groups, are also willing to turn a blind eye.

00:20:42.900 And I find it, frankly, hypocritical, but also just a bit, I remain confused by it.

00:20:51.180 What do you put it down to?

00:20:52.120 I mean, you mean the difference between those who want to assimilate and those who don't?

00:20:58.620 No, I mean, how can you?

00:21:01.020 Let's think about, you know, your typical purple-haired, lefty, loony on campus who will argue for trans rights, but at the same time, they will also turn a blind eye to the obvious cultural problems. 0.90

00:21:20.120 Oh, yeah.

00:21:20.480 For instance, Islamic culture, and I would dare say, at the mainstream of Islamic culture in many of these countries, that cognitive dissonance that is there, what do you put that down to?

00:21:31.500 How can they turn that blind eye to?

00:21:33.360 I just think they're ruled by that oppression narrative, and it starts, there's nothing greater, not sexuality, not gender identity, than skin color.

00:21:40.820 That is the be-all, end-all for many of these people.

00:21:45.000 And brown and black people must be elevated above whites, no matter what, because that's the ultimate oppression scale. 1.00

00:21:50.780 And if that means that, as a gay person, you have to get thrown off the top of a building in Palestine, because you're a white gay, so be it. 0.99

00:21:59.720 That's really how their thinking goes. 0.99

00:22:01.320 It makes no sense.

00:22:02.800 It's really radical.

00:22:03.780 But there's no other conclusion, because we've seen the clashes in the streets, you know, where the people are holding up, like, gays for Hamas, and then they get shouted down by Muslims who are like, get out. 0.91

00:22:14.660 You're not part of our coalition. 0.96

00:22:16.020 We're not in favor of gays. 1.00

00:22:17.160 We don't believe in this lifestyle.

00:22:18.100 And you see the light bulb go off, but what do you mean?

00:22:20.820 But I support you.

00:22:21.900 I'm against Israel. 0.98

00:22:22.780 I don't like Jews, just like you. 1.00

00:22:24.600 And you see these more radical Muslims being like, you are not part of our coalition, nor do we want you to be. 1.00

00:22:30.820 And even then, these people would get out there because there's social cachet in saying that you're anti-Israel, you're pro-Hamas, or you're somehow for these oppressed Muslims in these other countries.

00:22:41.720 Most of the Middle East is very rich.

00:22:43.320 They're not oppressed.

00:22:44.060 They don't need our help.

00:22:45.620 Yeah.

00:22:45.980 But this is such a good point as well.

00:22:48.100 And that is so much of this comes back to status.

00:22:51.080 You know, back in the 80s or 90s, the way that you would demonstrate status would be, you know, the Ferrari, the big house, trophy wife with the big boobs.

00:22:59.020 That is how you demonstrated high society status.

00:23:03.160 And now, you know, Rob Henderson's been wonderful on this.

00:23:06.680 It is that sort of luxury beliefs.

00:23:08.420 But the thing which I am encouraged by, and I think this has been accelerated in the US with Trump, but I think it's happening in the UK now as well,

00:23:16.260 is people are now just pushing back and saying, you know what, call me a racist.

00:23:21.200 You know what, call me a bigot.

00:23:23.580 I don't care anymore. 0.90

00:23:25.540 Call me a Nazi. 0.62

00:23:26.260 Call me far right.

00:23:27.360 The words have lost all meaning.

00:23:29.660 And if you're going to call me a racist or far right, and that's the price that I have to pay to protect my own culture,

00:23:35.560 to protect women and children who are being sexually assaulted at increasing rates in the United Kingdom today,

00:23:42.920 I'm very happy to be called a racist in order to stop that from happening.

00:23:46.540 And we can get to this, but the importation of crime and particularly sexual crime in the UK over the last 20-odd years has been absolutely terrifying.

00:23:58.000 And you and I both know, as well as the audience, there is only one major variable that has happened in the last 20 years

00:24:04.360 that would mean that you would get that spike in sexual assault and sexual violence in places like London.

00:24:11.220 Yeah, especially in the UK.

00:24:12.700 Here there's another variable, which is we went completely soft on crime after George Floyd

00:24:16.640 and installed soft on crime DAs and soft on crime police departments and defunded cops and so on. 0.97

00:24:23.680 But yes, I know we've been watching the rape crisis in the UK and largely perpetrated by these Muslim immigrants, 1.00

00:24:30.180 which you're not allowed to say, but it's true. 0.99

00:24:31.980 So too bad. 0.98

00:24:33.180 I'm on the side of the women and the girls getting raped. 0.99

00:24:35.340 I don't really give a shit about offending the rapists. 0.99

00:24:38.660 But yeah, revolving door when it comes to the treatment of those guys. 0.99

00:24:43.620 And in the United States, we've seen, yes, this uptick in crime and also an uptick in sexual crimes.

00:24:53.680 I wanted to make a comment about the Yom Kippur attack because Jihadi, our pal Jihadi, Al-Shami, again from Syria,

00:25:03.340 he was out on bail, right, on bail from a rape accusation.

00:25:09.000 This very guy comes to the UK and I guess he came when he was a kid, but like by the time he was 16, he got UK citizenship.

00:25:16.400 And what does he do?

00:25:17.900 He allegedly rapes a woman, then gets out pending trial and commits this mass murder in the name of some ISIS type group. 0.62

00:25:25.440 Yep.

00:25:27.040 Let me, for the audience later, simply as I can try and understand it, someone whose name literally translates to Jihadi from Syria is granted citizenship to the United Kingdom.

00:25:42.720 After being received, after being gifted that from the people of the United Kingdom, he goes out and is arrested for the rape of a woman.

00:25:53.040 Whilst on bail for the rape of a woman, he slaughters Jews on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. 0.72

00:26:01.380 Now, what does that point to?

00:26:03.720 It points to, A, like, number one, fundamental problems in the Home Office in the UK to say that, well, you know, what, all cultures are equal.

00:26:14.620 And so we're going to turn a blind eye to that sort of person coming to the country. 1.00

00:26:19.940 But B, the ideological capture of the judiciary in this country is terrifying, Megan.

00:26:26.740 So you may have heard as well that one of the big problems this country is facing is an illegal boats crisis. 0.78

00:26:32.180 So I think a couple of days ago, there were over a thousand people coming in on rubber dinghies from Calais in France, across the English Channel, arrive on the beaches of Dover.

00:26:43.160 And as a result of that, what do they do in the UK?

00:26:46.480 They don't put them in detention centres and then move them eventually back to their country of origin.

00:26:51.920 Like they do in your home country. 0.76

00:26:53.800 They do in my home country successfully.

00:26:55.580 Australia does not F around when it comes to boats of foreigners arriving on its shores, to its credit. 1.00

00:27:01.540 Keep going.

00:27:02.540 And you know what?

00:27:03.580 We don't get boats with foreigners arriving on our shores anymore because if you create a disincentive, people stop coming.

00:27:10.440 In the UK, what happens is they put you in a hotel, they give you an allowance every week, and it is almost impossible to deport you because there is this legal framework which has been created all around international human rights law,

00:27:24.960 which basically says if you are to be deported back to a country, you may be at risk of persecution.

00:27:31.620 So once they arrive here, they're effectively stuck here.

00:27:34.400 And there are some, again, it's almost like Babylon Bee-esque stories that you hear of reasons why judges have allowed these people, who are criminals, like an I'll do my best Tom Homan impersonation, if you arrive illegally, you're a criminal.

00:27:47.840 And these judges find these ways to interpret international human rights law in order to keep them there.

00:27:53.880 There was one judge the other day, and one of the reasons why this person couldn't be deported was because that his daughter did not like the taste of chicken nuggets back in his home country of Bulgaria.

00:28:06.200 I can keep going for these sorts of insane reasons, but when you have these laws that can then get interpreted by lefty judges, the end result is once these people come here, you are stuck with them.

00:28:19.520 And so the judiciary as well, and again, this also goes for the US, and you think about Soros-appointed judges as well, it is such an important part of this story and something which on the right, we really need to get right.

00:28:31.980 So the thing is, you know, the people who came to America 30, 40, 50 years ago generally came for a better life, wanting to assimilate, wanting to be American and raise their kids as American Muslims.

00:28:46.460 That makes sense to me.

00:28:48.360 But the people who have come in the past 15 years don't seem to want to assimilate at all, for the most part.

00:28:54.940 I mean, the vast majority of them in your country or in mine, and those people are a problem. 1.00

00:28:59.280 And they call themselves asylum seekers or refugees, whatever the name is, but they seem to want to import their culture into our respective countries.

00:29:08.800 They're the ones who are harassing women wearing tank tops on the streets of France, Germany, and the UK.

00:29:15.000 And now in the UK, you mentioned the sex crimes.

00:29:17.100 The Telegraph reported just this past March that foreigners were convicted of up to 23% of the sex crimes happening in the UK per the Ministry of Justice statistics there.

00:29:29.280 So they don't make up 23% of the population yet, but they're committing 23% of the sex crimes.

00:29:37.060 And then a further 8% on top of that are recorded from unknown nationalities.

00:29:41.980 So obviously those are foreign. 0.94

00:29:42.860 So we were talking about one-third of the sex crimes in the UK, and there was just a huge scandal that broke last spring of all these foreign nationals who are in the UK who are raping young girls and getting away with it. 1.00

00:30:00.580 Like the whole system was covering up for them because they didn't want to confront the uncomfortable fact that these were brown and black men raping young white English girls. 0.96

00:30:12.920 And they thought it was somehow racist to be throwing the full book at them. 0.99

00:30:19.860 Yep.

00:30:21.200 And thinking about an audience in America, I guess the closest equivalent would be turning a blind eye to crime committed in parts of the African-American community because of a historic guilt about the mistreatment of African-Americans.

00:30:38.700 And of course, that is certainly the case that that has happened.

00:30:40.980 But that doesn't mean that is an excuse not to treat people on their merits in this day and age.

00:30:48.100 Which I'm not sure, Megan, how much on the show you've heard or spoken about the Pakistani Muslim grooming gang scandal in the UK.

00:30:55.700 Not much.

00:30:56.700 We should have done more.

00:30:58.260 But Elon was going mad about it a few months ago, and we took a deep dive into it.

00:31:02.740 And thank the Lord for Elon Musk for bringing that to the global consciousness, because I'm not sure it would have otherwise.

00:31:08.520 But for the audience, very simply, for decades and decades, perhaps going back to the 1960s, 1970s, there have been largely Pakistani Muslim communities in working class parts of the UK that have set up grooming gangs and have sexually abused and in many cases murdered young white girls.

00:31:28.960 And the police establishment, the politicians and the media have largely turned a blind eye because of cultural sensitivity and because of the fear of being called racist.

00:31:42.980 In my opinion, it is not just the greatest scandal in modern UK history.

00:31:47.240 It's one of the greatest scandals in modern Western history.

00:31:50.180 Now, thank the Lord again that finally there is going to be an inquiry on this.

00:31:56.440 But this story is, in many ways, the story of our times across the UK and the West, where we're willing to say, A, well, all cultures are equal, and therefore we need to appease bad behaviour, as opposed to standing up and saying, you know what?

00:32:13.820 We have values as a Western liberal democracy.

00:32:16.980 We need to stand by them.

00:32:18.100 But also, maybe I'm being a bit too fluffy and philosophical there, we need to actually make sure that we are protecting women and children, and who cares if, you know, you're going to potentially offend a member of a minority community, because that's where, unfortunately, the UK found itself in the last 20-odd years.

00:32:37.240 Well, for sure, we have to enforce the law, and in particular, the criminal law, but the thing that you're calling attention to is much bigger and, in some ways, more important, which is don't cede the culture.

00:32:50.560 Don't allow in millions of foreigners whose values are different than yours, whose religion is different from the majority religion of your country, and who have no wish to assimilate and become British or American, in our case. 1.00

00:33:02.820 Stop doing that.

00:33:05.060 We have a country to save.

00:33:07.260 But isn't it extraordinary, right?

00:33:08.980 So I can give you data, and I can give, you know, people who are on the left data.

00:33:14.620 For example, in the UK, Afghan immigrants are 22 to 23 times more likely to commit sexual assault than someone who was born in the United Kingdom.

00:33:24.720 They've got a whole list now where they go down, and you can basically see if you are from Afghanistan or Eritrea or Somalia, you are, by a magnitude higher, more likely to commit that. 0.99

00:33:37.100 Now, of course, does that mean that everyone who comes from those countries is committing those crimes?

00:33:42.600 Of course it doesn't.

00:33:44.280 But what it does mean, it is an unacceptable risk to actually, as part of your immigration policy, just open slather, allow people in from those countries which don't have compatible values. 0.98

00:33:56.420 I was on GBN News the other night, and I was debating a former defence minister, you know, the Pete Hegseth equivalent in the UK, and he was disputing that data.

00:34:07.180 And he was running with that same old line, which we've heard so many times before, we're all human beings, all cultures are equal.

00:34:13.880 And I was trying to break through to him.

00:34:15.520 I was trying to work out, how do you communicate this?

00:34:18.020 And I said, Bill, mate, let's go back to first principles.

00:34:22.780 Surely if you come from a country where, A, you've had little to no education, B, women are treated as second-class citizens, and C, it is a barbaric backwater. 1.00

00:34:35.240 Think Afghanistan, where at the moment, you know, a woman reads in public, they are publicly beaten.

00:34:41.160 If you are then to come to the UK, do you think you magically change your worldview overnight?

00:34:47.180 Right.

00:34:47.340 Of course you're more likely to import those views in.

00:34:50.500 But for some reason, and again, it is ideological, there is this disconnect where these people seem to think that if you come from a third world backwater,

00:34:59.080 and then you arrive in the United States, suddenly you'll magically become, you know, a Western liberal advocate, and you'll, you know, start quoting Thomas Jefferson, and you'll start, you know, pledging, you know, to the flag, and you'll have the flag up in your garden.

00:35:17.420 It just doesn't work that way, Megan.

00:35:19.260 Yeah, you'll be pro-gay rights, you'll be pro-First Amendment, yeah, it's not happening. 0.98

00:35:24.460 I just, I want to point out, I mentioned that these foreigners are accounting for 23% of the British sex crimes. 1.00

00:35:30.800 They're only 6% of the population.

00:35:32.440 So 4 million are Muslims in the UK out of 67 million.

00:35:36.480 So they're 6% of the population committing 23% of the sex crimes. 0.59

00:35:40.420 Go ahead.

00:35:40.660 And this is one of the other funny things that you hear in this argument is it is amazing how lefties don't seem to understand per capita statistics.

00:35:49.120 So one of the things you'll always hear is something like, well, what about all the white people that are committing crimes? 0.92

00:35:55.200 There's still many more, you know, white rapists than there are foreign rapists in the United Kingdom, or in, say, Australia, for example. 0.97

00:36:03.640 And of course, the answer is per capita. 0.99

00:36:05.360 They are dramatically overrepresented. 0.99

00:36:07.640 But the other point to make is, unfortunately, there are going to be scumbags in every country that you're stuck with. 0.98

00:36:15.180 If you're born in America. 0.99

00:36:16.540 You have to take the Brits. 0.99

00:36:18.100 They were born there.

00:36:19.040 You're stuck with them.

00:36:19.840 Same thing in America.

00:36:20.800 We don't have to take in immigrants who are also criminals and have a propensity to commit crime based on these numbers. 0.92

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00:39:33.480 Islamists are not in favor of free speech at all. 1.00

00:39:36.760 And this is another incongruity between their culture and ours. 0.99

00:39:40.380 And unfortunately, in the U.K. right now, there's been a horrific crackdown on free speech, similar to what we've been seeing in Germany.

00:39:49.380 The Times of London reporting in April that police make 30 arrests a day now in the U.K. for offensive online messages.

00:39:57.300 30 a day.

00:39:59.280 Thousands of people are being detained and questioned for sending messages that cause, quote, annoyance, inconvenience, or anxiety to others, which is really dangerous because this—one of the things that can get you arrested is if you say something considered hateful about Muslims.

00:40:16.640 And this is exactly the thing that Christopher Hitchens, a Brit himself, was warning against back in 2009 in what's become a very famous clip.

00:40:25.460 We'll play it now, Sot 8.

00:40:27.140 Yeah, please.

00:40:28.320 This is very urgent business, ladies and gentlemen.

00:40:30.720 I beseech you.

00:40:32.160 Resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing.

00:40:38.740 You will be told you can't complain because you're Islamophobic.

00:40:42.760 The term is already being introduced into the culture as if it was an accusation of race hatred, for example, or bigotry, whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.

00:40:56.720 Watch out for these symptoms.

00:40:58.140 They are the symptoms of surrender, very often ecumenically offered to you by men of God in other robes, Christian and Jewish and smarmy ecumenical. 0.90

00:41:07.120 These are the ones who hold open the gates for the barbarians. 1.00

00:41:11.660 The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open for them. 1.00

00:41:15.860 And it's your own preachers who will do it for you and your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.

00:41:21.620 Resist it while you can.

00:41:26.200 So brilliant.

00:41:27.560 So prescient.

00:41:28.200 And that business about Islamophobia being used as though it's an accusation of racism is important.

00:41:35.920 It's OK.

00:41:37.380 I think it's fine.

00:41:38.780 Islamophobia.

00:41:39.360 What does that mean?

00:41:39.900 I don't want actual Islam, like the deep tenets of Islam taking over my country because it's inconsistent with our fundamental values as a people. 1.00

00:41:48.180 That's fine.

00:41:49.120 If that makes me an Islamophobe, great. 0.96

00:41:50.900 OK, then I am.

00:41:51.900 I don't care. 1.00

00:41:52.420 It's a word that is used by fascists to manipulate morons, Megan. 1.00

00:41:58.280 It is a nonsense term. 1.00

00:42:01.160 I've watched that clip from Hitchens hundreds of times.

00:42:04.680 16 years ago, he wrote that.

00:42:07.020 He said that the prescience is extraordinary.

00:42:10.580 It is absolutely extraordinary.

00:42:12.040 And it is where we are at today.

00:42:13.700 I am so insanely jealous of your First Amendment.

00:42:18.360 I would dearly, dearly love to have the equivalent of a First Amendment in the United Kingdom, but we don't have that.

00:42:25.980 That statistic, again, which many people who are watching the show at the moment in the US may not even believe.

00:42:32.180 30 people a day, give or take, are being arrested for tweets or social media posts or whatever.

00:42:38.980 But what you alluded to is it is all because you may have caused distress or offence, which, again, is entirely subjective.

00:42:49.180 I'm offended by the fact that my free speech is being taken away, just as much as someone else may be offended by some sort of silly comment that may be made.

00:42:57.600 Now, the problem that I think we have on the right, and I think there's problems here in the US as well, I don't think the arguments for free speech in the US are being made as strongly as perhaps they once were, is it is sometimes very difficult to make the argument to say you should be allowed to say hateful, nasty, bigoted, awful things, because on balance, it is still better to have that out in the open than to have one centralised body deciding what you can and cannot say.

00:43:25.220 But here's the thing. If you do make that argument, a lot of people on the left will say, oh, okay, so you're in favour of Nazism, are you? Or, oh, okay, you're in favour of racism, are you? And it's not the point.

00:43:37.100 But where we need to get to, and it shows like this, and Megan, you've been incredibly strong on this, how do we make the argument better for free speech in countries like the UK and the US? Because particularly in the UK, it is being taken away bit by bit by bit.

00:43:52.440 We are watching things over in the UK that are really telling. We talked about what happened on Yom Kippur. Interestingly, Muhammad has overtaken Noah as the most popular boy's name in the UK.

00:44:09.340 And there's different ways to spell Muhammad, but the multiple ways of spelling it are all in the top 100. But Muhammad has overtaken Noah as the number one most popular name for boys in the UK. That's telling. 0.71

00:44:22.680 That's telling.

00:44:52.680 Member of Parliament, that's the more liberal group, calling for flags to be removed, citing alleged safety risks, saying they make constituents uncomfortable in their own communities.

00:45:05.020 He wants the flags removed from lampposts, saying, again, this is a safety issue, he claims. His name is Jeevan Sander. And while he went through the exercise of saying, oh, well, some of the flags have become like in disrepair and they risk detaching and falling into the mud.

00:45:22.420 He's also making clear that they think these flags are unwelcoming to many of his constituents and made them uncomfortable in their own community. Here is the soundbite of this guy.

00:45:35.340 It's sat nine.

00:45:37.140 It's time to take down the lamppost flags. And, you know, because you've seen it online and I see it in my inbox, that this does make people feel uneasy.

00:45:47.180 And they ask what message are these flags supposed to be sending? Now, look, I'll take people at their words. People who say this is about national pride. I'm proud of my country, too. And I'm proud of our flag.

00:46:00.880 But I do understand why others feel that it's about excluding people, why others feel that it's about saying who belongs here and who doesn't.

00:46:13.640 We're one British people. We're proud of our country. We should be standing together underneath our flag, not some of us looking up with unease. That's not the British way.

00:46:24.540 That's why today I'll be asking the Reform County Council to take down the flags of the lampposts.

00:46:33.180 Unbelievable.

00:46:35.180 Bugger off.

00:46:36.640 And it's the reason I was laughing, Meg, is having lived in the US. Again, I can hear the audience just going, how utterly bizarre, because a country which is so proud of its flag.

00:46:47.720 Traditionally, the UK probably hasn't quite been like that.

00:46:50.660 And I think this is something which I absolutely love about the United States is the overt patriotism.

00:46:58.100 But just because of the British psyche, it isn't quite like that.

00:47:01.560 It is probably more of a quiet, reserved, you know, sense of comfort in one's country.

00:47:09.760 But in the last few months, and this has been led by so many of the problems that we've just talked about, largely working class Brits have said, right, we need to send some sort of a signal that we are, A, against mass immigration. 0.58

00:47:25.380 B, we are uncomfortable with where the country is going.

00:47:28.360 And the answer has been what's been dubbed the Raise the Flag campaign.

00:47:32.280 And it's a wonderful tribute to the power of social media, because it's all been led by grassroots social media campaigns.

00:47:38.160 So across the country, admittedly, again, in largely northern parts of England.

00:47:42.420 So London, for example, you're not going to see it.

00:47:44.320 It would be like the equivalent of, you know, someone in West Village showing that sort of patriotism.

00:47:49.580 It's just not going to happen.

00:47:50.240 But in many parts of the UK, there is a sense of pride, and that is being demonstrated through the flags. 0.87

00:47:55.920 But it started this culture war, because you have people like that, you know, idiot that we just saw, who said, well, unfortunately, the flag of the country makes some people from oppressed minority groups feel uncomfortable, despite the fact that they're more than happy to have Palestinian flags waving down the streets of London every single week. 0.93

00:48:16.840 There was a British soccer player, a guy called Gary Neville, he played for England about 85 times, you know, I think, you know, Tom Brady equivalent. 0.98

00:48:25.160 And he now runs a construction company.

00:48:27.140 And he came out the other day and said he saw a flag on one of his sites.

00:48:31.180 And he said, immediately, I took it down, because it was obviously violent and threatening to the minority people in the country.

00:48:41.440 But here's the thing, Megan, if we can't rally around that one thing, the flag should be the one thing that unites everyone, black, white, Muslim, Christian, atheist, whatever.

00:48:53.160 If you don't have that one thing that binds you together, then you don't, what do you have left?

00:48:59.660 And this is unfortunately where we are getting to in the UK.

00:49:02.240 And if you look at places like Minneapolis, unfortunately, there is a trend line in the US, we are entering a period where you will just have sectarian ghettos, which are divided along ethnic and cultural lines and run according to the values of whatever hellhole country that those people have come from initially. 0.87

00:49:23.660 And this is the warning that Americans who are watching this need to heed when you look at the United Kingdom, because whilst it's not there to the same extent, I'm sure people, and again, if you're watching this from Minneapolis, you would be seeing this day in, day out.

00:49:37.200 But if we don't find that common unifying thread that binds us all together, we will become sectarian countries that are governed by cultures that are antithetical to what the founding fathers in the US and the drafters of the Magna Carta in the UK believe so strongly in. 0.94

00:49:56.420 Right, like free speech, like separation of church and state, like women's rights and minority rights.

00:50:03.560 Speaking of Minneapolis, there is a mayoral candidate there, Omar Fateh, and this guy's been making a lot of headlines for his positions.

00:50:12.400 He's running for mayor of Minneapolis, which is already run by a very far left woke guy, Jacob Fry, who is on his knees with his mask on.

00:50:22.000 This is the guy who took the knee at George Floyd's funeral crying.

00:50:26.420 You got it.

00:50:27.320 So he's being challenged by this Muslim man named Omar Fateh, who had the following to say to the constituents there in February of 2023.

00:50:37.760 Here he is in Sat 16.

00:50:40.820 Heard them being called terrorists.

00:50:43.820 We heard them being called drug dealers.

00:50:47.920 We heard a lot of insults.

00:50:49.980 We heard that they're that they're a threat to our national security.

00:50:53.460 And that's a flat out lie.

00:50:56.420 You want to know who the real threat is, Madam President?

00:51:00.280 I'll give you a hint.

00:51:01.140 It doesn't they don't look like our chief author.

00:51:03.460 They don't look like the folks up in the gallery.

00:51:05.880 They don't look like the folks on the rotunda.

00:51:08.600 They look like many of the members that sit in the front.

00:51:12.720 And you don't have to take my word for it.

00:51:15.460 According to DHS, Madam President, 0.53

00:51:17.260 The greatest domestic threat facing the United States comes from, quote, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocate for the superiority of the white race.

00:51:32.280 This guy is a he's in the Minneapolis State Senate.

00:51:44.640 Now, he actually referred to Somalia as home when he was running for his for office home.

00:51:50.300 OK, that's Minneapolis.

00:51:52.120 I mean, a major American city.

00:51:54.320 And they're not even as bad as Dearborn, Michigan, which is run by majority Muslims now. 0.93

00:52:01.760 And where I'll just give you one more.

00:52:03.260 Well, by the way, we're talking to Will Kingston, co-host of the Saturday Five on GB News about cultural non assimilation by more radical Muslims in his country and ours.

00:52:15.040 In Dearborn, Michigan, not far away, there was a Muslim mayor.

00:52:21.540 There is a Muslim mayor there now.

00:52:23.500 His name is Abdullah Hamoud, who told a local resident, a Christian minister named Ted Barnum, who was objecting to streets being named after a pro terror Arab leader that he needed to get out, told the white Christian leader he should get out of Dearborn if he didn't like it.

00:52:41.600 Listen to this soundbite here.

00:52:44.920 My team will get it.

00:52:45.800 I don't know which one number number it is.

00:52:47.280 I think it's 11.

00:52:48.760 It's not 11. 1.00

00:52:50.320 Because you are a bigot and you are a racist and you are an Islamophobe. 0.99

00:52:54.240 And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not welcome here. 0.99

00:52:58.340 And the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city.

00:53:05.180 Unbelievable.

00:53:05.740 Your thoughts, Will?

00:53:06.260 Well, the thing is, these are at the moment still as a percentage of the entire population, small groups, but they have national consequences.

00:53:15.900 It's that sort of group in Dearborn, Michigan was fundamentally the reason why Josh Shapiro wasn't the vice presidential candidate for the Democrats.

00:53:23.520 And instead, it was that absolute non-entity Tim Walts.

00:53:27.660 It's because the Democrats were scared of putting a Jew into that position because they were scared of losing votes from Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan.

00:53:37.000 These things aren't just isolated to these particular little cultural areas.

00:53:43.180 If you think, well, look, you know, I live in, you know, a plush little part of Manhattan.

00:53:48.660 This isn't going to affect me.

00:53:50.200 There are national ramifications to all of this stuff, again, both in the U.S. and in the U.K.

00:53:59.900 But the other thing that I would say about the, I'm sorry, Megan, I've forgotten the name of the Somali candidate who was running to be mayor.

00:54:11.700 Omar Fateh.

00:54:12.360 In, yeah, Minneapolis.

00:54:15.000 What Omar would say, and you would cop this every day as well, the people who are opposing me are just trying to promote division.

00:54:23.240 You know, you would be, you know, Megan Kelly, you know, she is trying to divide us. 1.00

00:54:26.760 Will Kingston on JB News, trying to divide us.

00:54:29.200 Whenever you hear that expression from the left, what they say, people who are trying to divide us, what they mean is people who we disagree with.

00:54:37.440 What he just said in that clip, I can't possibly think of something which would be a more divisive thing to say.

00:54:44.040 And yet the reason why they say this is because that there is one establishment narrative that they want to enforce.

00:54:50.740 And if you do not go along with it, you are the divider.

00:54:54.660 And because we are the kind and compassionate left, we're therefore have the moral authority to be able to run that narrative.

00:55:05.680 So I think, you know, across the board, if you are – I'm not even going to say on the right.

00:55:11.220 If you are sensible, we need to push back against this division nonsense because, quite frankly, it is just a tool for left-wing people to say, go along with our story.

00:55:20.220 Or otherwise, we are going to bully you, we are going to oppress you, we are going to censor you, we're going to shut you up.

00:55:26.860 No, and Islamicists, they don't want to live peacefully next door to you. 1.00

00:55:31.000 They want to impose their way of life and their religion on you. 0.98

00:55:35.200 It's completely antithetical to Western values.

00:55:37.780 So it's not live and let live.

00:55:40.500 We just want to move to America or the UK, which we think is beautiful and has, you know, wonderful education systems.

00:55:45.940 No, they actually want to change the way we are living.

00:55:50.160 By the way, in his city, in Minneapolis, you've got – or in Minnesota, his state, it's 82,000 and change.

00:55:59.680 People of Somali descent are living in Minnesota right now.

00:56:03.380 It's home to the largest Somali population in the United States.

00:56:06.880 58% of them were born in Somalia, so it's not like they're third generation.

00:56:12.440 They were born in Somalia and came here relatively recently.

00:56:15.040 34% of them speak English less than very well, 40% are below the poverty line, 42% of those over 25 years old have less than a high school degree, and only 68% of working-age Somali adults are employed.

00:56:32.860 So you've got some, what, one-third, just about, who are unemployed.

00:56:37.440 So this is not exactly our best group, and why we'd want to be importing more of them remains a mystery other than this multiculturalism lie that we just discussed. 0.99

00:56:49.460 Here's just – now, we're switching back and forth between Minneapolis, Minnesota, and Dearborn, Michigan, but let me go back to Dearborn, Michigan, where the mayor is really concerned about the Christian minister and his objection to naming the street after this guy.

00:57:01.720 Here's what's happening on the streets of Dearborn, Michigan.

00:57:04.240 This is just April of 2024, SOT 13.

00:57:06.820 Happy birthday, America!

00:57:10.540 Malcolm X said, and I quote,

00:57:14.160 We live in one of the rottenest countries that has ever existed on this earth.

00:57:19.220 It's not genocide, Joe, that has to go.

00:57:21.420 It's the entire system that has to go.

00:57:23.880 Any system that would allow such atrocities and such devilry to happen and would support it, such a system does not deserve to exist on God's earth. 0.96

00:57:35.260 And so when these fools ask us if Israel has the right to exist, the chant, death to Israel, has become the most logical chant shouted across the world today. 0.98

00:57:46.260 El malo to Israel! 1.00

00:57:48.000 El malo to Israel! 0.84

00:57:49.220 El malo to Israel! 0.99

00:57:51.600 Death to Israel. 0.98

00:57:52.880 By the way, here's just a peek. 1.00

00:57:54.620 It did not suck a lot, man. 0.67

00:57:56.480 No, same city, Dearborn, Michigan. 0.95

00:57:58.120 In August, just this past August, a couple months ago, Salem news anchor narrating reports of some 40,000 Shia Muslims in the streets.

00:58:06.720 Dearborn, Michigan, watch.

00:58:08.720 40,000 Muslims pat the streets in Dearborn, Michigan for a religious Aberdeen march, raising red flags on the increasing Islamic influence in America. 0.98

00:58:18.120 Many are now pointing to calls that have been made by Muslims to take down America, saying their people are willing to fight and give their lives to bring America down.

00:58:27.080 The event is being described as the largest Aberdeen procession in the United States.

00:58:32.280 It's a Shia religious event observed primarily by Shia Muslims and celebrates the martyrdom of Imam Hussein, the grandson of their prophet Muhammad.

00:58:42.240 This annual pilgrimage draws millions worldwide to Karbala in Iraq, but it's now starting to build on American soil.

00:58:49.260 The event transformed a typical suburban roadway into a sea of black-clad marchers chanting religious slogans, waving flags and carrying banners, a scene more reminiscent of the Middle East than the Midwest.

00:59:02.840 It's really crazy to see, and the vast majority of the media, well, completely ignores it.

00:59:08.680 Well, Donald Trump has done us an enormous favour in the West.

00:59:16.200 Obviously, he's achieved one of the great geopolitical achievements in modern history, but it will also lead to an interesting social experiment, Megan.

00:59:24.380 And that is, this peace plan, and assuming it goes ahead, look, you know, there are still some ifs and buts that will need to take place, but this looks like an extraordinary, extraordinary achievement.

00:59:34.680 Do we think that these sorts of marches will stop?

00:59:38.220 Do we think that the pro-genocide crowd will suddenly, you know, pack up and go home?

00:59:43.900 And my guess is no.

00:59:45.340 My guess is because these protests that we've seen over the last two years have never been really about Palestinian statehood.

00:59:53.860 They've never really been about the plight of the Palestinians.

00:59:57.220 They've been about, A, the destruction of Israel, and B, more generally to that clip, the destruction of Western civilisation. 0.82

01:00:04.680 So what I think we will see, even if they get absolutely everything that they have asked for, and from what I can see in that peace plan, they're getting pretty much everything that they have asked for, you will continue to see these types of protests.

01:00:19.640 And so, therefore, the only answer in my mind is that countries like the UK and the US need to fundamentally rethink how they approach immigration, because you're not going to be able to change the minds of people who are radicalised and who, from a very young age, have a particular ideology which is antithetical to the West.

01:00:40.640 And if I may just add one more thing, Megan, it is extraordinary that some of these countries don't get that.

01:00:46.980 So on the same day of that Yom Kippur attack that we mentioned, there was a Labor minister, Labor being the equivalent of the Democrats, who said,

01:00:56.700 we're proud to announce that we've just let in a new wave of Gazan students into the UK on scholarships to study in universities.

01:01:07.000 Now, I think it's a tragedy that those people have been brought up in a society where she's run by her maths, where they've been indoctrinated in their schooling system to hate Jews from a young age, where there is obviously a two-tier society where women are treaded as inferior.

01:01:24.400 That's a tragedy. But at the same time, it's happened, and those people will, more likely than not, hold those views when they get onto campus at a UK university.

01:01:35.500 Australia is also letting in Gazan refugees at the same time.

01:01:38.400 So we've got to stop and think for a second, do we want to prioritise that warm and fuzzy feeling that you apparently get when you're helping the less fortunate in bad, war-torn parts of the world?

01:01:51.240 Or do we want to prioritise the safety and wellbeing of the citizens of the UK and the United States?

01:01:58.060 I think for me it's a pretty obvious answer.

01:02:00.040 It's really crazy when you see it, like, spreading.

01:02:03.680 You know, Dearborn is huge.

01:02:05.320 Minneapolis is huge.

01:02:06.340 And we're about to elect Zoran Mamdani as the mayor of New York City, whose wife is in the news today for celebrating the death of a Palestinian influencer who openly glorified the 10-7 attacks.

01:02:25.300 And she openly wrote beloved Jafarawi on her Instagram story with four broken heart emojis on Sunday.

01:02:35.480 She's super sad that this guy who absolutely loved 10-7 was killed.

01:02:41.020 That's going to be our new first lady of the greatest city in the world, bar none, New York, as of November, if the polls don't change.

01:02:48.580 Which Mario, or not Mario Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo is now within some 10 to 12 points of Mamdani. 0.56

01:02:55.860 But Curtis Lewa, the Republican, has 15% of the vote and will not drop out.

01:03:00.220 I can't stand Andrew Cuomo at all, but I would take him any day over this Zoran Mamdani, who's going to bring an entirely different set of values to office, some of which we've discussed here, some of which are just far-left socialist values.

01:03:15.400 But either way, he's about to ruin the greatest city in the world.

01:03:18.860 And as someone who has lived in New York and had the great privilege of living in New York, it breaks my heart to say it.

01:03:25.600 It absolutely breaks my heart.

01:03:27.760 But it also goes to show that there is this Western, liberal, well-educated group of people who are willing to overlook all of the challenges that we've just mentioned in order to virtue signal.

01:03:42.640 And part of me, Megan, and this will sound fatalistic, this will sound, we can argue about this, but part of me goes, we need to see the consequences of the actions of someone like a Mamdani for people to wake up and realise that you cannot just, you know, put up placards and posters and virtue signal and everything's going to be okay. 0.96

01:04:04.960 Elections have consequences.

01:04:07.040 Ideologies have consequences.

01:04:09.000 The same thing is going to happen and is happening in the UK.

01:04:12.000 So sadly, you know, what was that old H.L. Mencken quote?

01:04:16.660 It was something like, democracy is the belief that people should get what they vote for and they should get it good and hard.

01:04:28.940 And unfortunately, I think Yorkers are about to be bent over and they're about to get it good and hard.

01:04:34.060 And that's a democracy.

01:04:34.980 That's what they're going to choose.

01:04:36.180 And there are going to be consequences to that.

01:04:37.540 Wow.

01:04:39.180 I mean, it's like, it's crazy to watch the open borders that we saw happen.

01:04:45.120 I mean, Europe was doing it long before the United States did it under Joe Biden.

01:04:49.560 And now you guys are living the real life consequences of it.

01:04:53.020 And we're about to.

01:04:54.580 We're already having soft on crime consequences come our way.

01:04:57.280 But this, you know, the takeover of our major American cities by people who do not share our values.

01:05:03.940 Some of the chants that we were seeing in Dearborn, Michigan over the past couple of years since 10-7 are death to America.

01:05:09.000 Not just death to Israel, death to America as they walk by the open call to prayer. 0.98

01:05:13.620 I mean, things are changing rapidly.

01:05:15.280 And unless people here find the stones to speak out the way you did on GB News over there, once you've gotten to your breaking point, we're going to get a whole lot more just like this.

01:05:24.500 I'll give you the last word, Will.

01:05:26.380 Yeah, very simply.

01:05:27.300 The only cure for cancel culture, Megan, is courage culture. 0.93

01:05:31.240 And that is something which I think, you know, and look, we are very fortunate that we have a platform in the media.

01:05:37.640 Many people don't.

01:05:38.680 And it is incredibly difficult if you've got a job and you've got kids to feed and you've got a mortgage to pay to go out and to say the type of stuff that we are saying.

01:05:49.720 But I stress to everyone who has the ability to be able to do so or the courage to be able to do so, either support people like Megan Kelly or support, you know, people who are standing up in the media and are saying these things.

01:06:04.000 Or remember that if you say something in a sensible way, a logical way, there's no need to be aggressive or whatever.

01:06:13.280 But if you are logical, if you are sensible, and if you are principled, we can change this discourse.

01:06:20.280 It will just require a bit of courage.

01:06:22.540 Let me tell you something.

01:06:23.620 This is an area in which people haven't found courage.

01:06:26.400 I think five years after Black Lives Matter, people have found some courage there.

01:06:29.840 They certainly found some courage on the trans front.

01:06:32.240 But the Muslim takeover of major American cities and UK cities is something people are still very reluctant to address head on.

01:06:41.640 And I've been thinking about it a lot lately because I just did this long piece on Charlie and how people called him an Islamophob.

01:06:47.660 But he was very outspoken on this issue because he was an ardent Christian and he saw the conflict coming.

01:06:54.600 And they've silenced Charlie.

01:06:56.160 And I actually felt a need to stand up on this issue.

01:07:00.260 And then I saw your piece and I thought there's somebody actually doing it in his country too.

01:07:05.340 And today, Will, I'm actually headed to the White House for the posthumous awarding to Charlie of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

01:07:14.660 And I just thought this is a perfect day to stand up for something that was near and dear to his heart.

01:07:20.380 To your point, no one's asking for open maltreatment or mistreatment of anybody who happens to be Muslim.

01:07:25.660 But people who are Muslim and trying to change the UK or the United States or Western countries into something that is more akin to Somalia or Gaza are going to have a fight on their hands. 1.00

01:07:37.340 We do need to stand up to them and fight for the countries that we love.

01:07:41.100 So that's what we're doing.

01:07:42.140 Thank you for helping lead the way, Will.

01:07:43.800 Well, thank you, Megan.

01:07:45.340 I appreciate it.

01:07:46.600 All the best to you.

01:07:48.540 You should watch the whole segment.

01:07:49.820 You can Google it.

01:07:50.960 And you can see Will Kingston, host of The Saturday Five, which is kind of like The Five on Fox.

01:07:57.280 And also Fire at Will, his show.

01:08:01.300 So thank you all so much for watching us tomorrow.

01:08:04.540 Jack Posobiec will be here.

01:08:05.760 I'm going to see him later today at the event that I just mentioned, which I got to get off to now.

01:08:11.160 We'll see you then.

01:08:11.980 Thanks for listening.

01:08:13.800 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 14, 2025

Free Speech Crackdowns, Immigrant Crime, and When Diversity Isn't Our Strength, with Will Kingston ｜ Ep. 1171

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