The Megyn Kelly Show - George Stephanopoulos' Gross Hypocrisy, and Kate Middleton Fake Photo Controversy, with Andrew Klavan and Maureen Callahan

00:00:00.460 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live from Montana this week.

00:00:17.720 Last night was the 96th Academy Awards show, and while you might have missed it, there was one clear winner.

00:00:24.940 No, not Oppenheimer. It was sanctimonious leftists for their lead role in pretending they are better than you.

00:00:33.300 Several people shared in this achievement.

00:00:35.920 Winner number one, Jimmy Kimmel.

00:00:38.340 For the fourth time, Kimmel hosted the Oscars before an adoring crowd of Hollywood stars who laughed and curried favor with the man who wore blackface so many times he's second only to Justin Trudeau in his fondness for the practice.

00:00:51.460 Yes, some of the very same celebrities who wanted you to believe they were horrified, horrified, after yours truly said in 2018 that people used to don dark makeup in order to imitate well-known black celebrities and it wasn't a big deal,

00:01:07.240 absolutely ate up the performance by Hollywood darling Mr. Kimmel, whose blackface costumes included his oft-repeated bit as basketball star Carl Malone.

00:01:18.340 Now, Carl Malone never seen no flying saucer himself, but if he do, that's going to be a spooky time.

00:01:25.920 And let's not forget Oprah in a fat suit.

00:01:30.460 Fifteen minutes a day is all you need to get your heart rate up to weight.

00:01:33.860 Please, Ms. Oprah, you're crushing my...

00:01:36.340 Sorry, Ms. Oprah.

00:01:39.540 In truth, the Academy Awards show, though it's since gone on to lecture us incessantly about the importance of racial equity, has long been a promoter of celebrity blackface.

00:01:51.720 The 2012 Oscars ceremony featured actor Billy Crystal in blackface announcing a Best Picture nominee.

00:01:59.760 Billy Zabibs, the young Sinatra, or my nuts?

00:02:02.440 Oh, Sammy, stop it.

00:02:04.160 You're my nuts.

00:02:04.760 This guy.

00:02:05.540 Peace out.

00:02:06.120 All right, have fun storming if you're...

00:02:08.720 All right, good luck, Bob.

00:02:10.400 Just a few years before that, Robert Downey Jr. was honored with a Best Supporting Actor nomination for the film Tropic Thunder,

00:02:17.800 in which Downey Jr. famously wore, you guessed it, blackface, while donning an afro and attending, quote, Ebonics vocal training.

00:02:28.420 He won last night for Oppenheimer.

00:02:30.080 Congrats!

00:02:30.460 Obviously, Kimmel's love of blackface was not a deal-breaker for ABC, which already employs him as a late-night host,

00:02:38.440 and which, in addition to its many blackface awards shows, also produced and promoted many shows and stars in blackface.

00:02:46.940 It appears the real sin with blackface, you see, is talking about how standards on it have changed, not actually wearing it.

00:02:55.680 You can still win Oscars and host the Oscars after doing that.

00:03:00.780 Winner number two of the Sanctimonious Leftists Pretending They Are Better Than You Award, Robert De Niro.

00:03:08.240 Congratulations, sir.

00:03:09.300 Another Oscar for the iconic actor who, now 80, appeared on Bill Maher over the weekend and had some choice words about Donald Trump.

00:03:17.880 The guy is a total monster, and anybody, I don't understand it.

00:03:23.600 I guess they get behind that kind of logic.

00:03:26.640 They want to fuck with people, screw them, because they're unhappy about something.

00:03:30.960 I never play him as an actor, because I can't see any good in him.

00:03:37.720 Nothing.

00:03:39.140 Nothing at all.

00:03:40.200 Nothing redeemable in him.

00:03:41.860 He's a sociopathic, psychopathic, malignant narcissist.

00:03:50.580 He's got to be stopped.

00:03:53.580 Wouldn't ever play someone that despicable.

00:03:56.500 And who could blame him?

00:03:57.920 That could be tough for an actor to play such a hateful, hateful man.

00:04:01.200 Someone like, I don't know, like Bernie Madoff, say.

00:04:03.900 A guy who stole $65 billion from nuns and Holocaust survivors like Elie Wiesel and was sentenced to 150 years in prison.

00:04:13.220 Who would play him?

00:04:14.220 There are no investments.

00:04:15.940 What are you talking about?

00:04:17.400 Of course, there are investments.

00:04:18.600 I made them up.

00:04:19.840 They're on every statement.

00:04:21.980 I made them up.

00:04:23.120 I've seen the trades.

00:04:24.560 They're fake.

00:04:26.940 Both fake.

00:04:28.120 Basically just a big potty scheme.

00:04:30.060 Oh, well, that was White Collar.

00:04:35.000 Maybe he draws the line at the really bad criminals.

00:04:47.620 Oh, that's right.

00:04:49.340 Jimmy Conway from Goodfellas, a character based on real life mobster Jimmy Burke,

00:04:53.720 who, according to mobster Henry Hill, really did whack a guy for an insult about shoe shining

00:04:58.720 and then finished him off in the trunk of the car when they realized he wasn't quite dead.

00:05:05.260 No, no, no.

00:05:06.940 He's still alive.

00:05:07.560 No.

00:05:07.900 Fucking.

00:05:08.360 I'm sorry.

00:05:08.700 I'm sorry.

00:05:09.200 I'm sorry.

00:05:09.640 I'm sorry.

00:05:10.260 I'm sorry.

00:05:10.640 I'm sorry.

00:05:11.140 I'm sorry.

00:05:11.800 I'm sorry.

00:05:12.160 I'm sorry.

00:05:18.360 But De Niro doesn't want to play someone truly evil, you see.

00:05:23.680 At least not a certain someone.

00:05:25.520 Maybe Jimmy was a Democrat.

00:05:27.140 By the way, De Niro is also very upset that Donald Trump is an alleged racist.

00:05:33.240 Wonder if he pulled Jimmy Kimmel aside last night and asked him to atone for his blackface

00:05:37.340 loving past.

00:05:38.800 Our final Oscar for sanctimonious leftists pretending they are better than you is a dark

00:05:44.560 horse contender when you consider he's not even an actor.

00:05:48.320 George Stephanopoulos.

00:05:50.260 Yes, another ABCer.

00:05:51.900 The lifelong Democrat took to his Sunday show yesterday and decided to really press Republican

00:05:58.200 and Trump endorser Nancy Mace on how on earth she can support a guy who's been found liable

00:06:04.920 of sexual assault, especially when, as he pointed out to Mace, she is a rape survivor.

00:06:12.420 It's such an opportunity when you can use a woman's rape against her.

00:06:16.740 Watch.

00:06:17.120 Our next guest is South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace, a Donald Trump supporter who gave

00:06:22.720 candid and courageous testimony about her own experience as a rape victim weeks before

00:06:27.080 launching her run for Congress in 2019.

00:06:29.220 From some of us who've been raped, it can take 25 years to get up the courage and talk about

00:06:43.200 being a victim of rape.

00:06:45.820 How do you square your endorsement of Donald Trump with the testimony we just saw?

00:06:49.780 It's a shame that you will never feel, George, and I'm not going to sit here on your show

00:06:53.960 and be asked a question meant to shame me about another potential rape victim.

00:06:59.500 You've endorsed Donald Trump for president.

00:07:01.820 Donald Trump has been found liable for rape by a jury.

00:07:05.260 It was not a criminal court case, number one.

00:07:08.240 Number two, I live with shame.

00:07:11.500 And you're asking me a question about my political choices, trying to shame me as a rape victim.

00:07:16.240 And I find it disgusting.

00:07:17.540 I'm not trying to shame you.

00:07:18.700 You are.

00:07:18.720 I'm just asking you.

00:07:19.180 And I find it offensive.

00:07:20.240 And this is why women won't come forward.

00:07:21.740 Women won't come forward because they're defamed by those who perpetrate rape.

00:07:25.660 I'm asking you a very simple question.

00:07:27.220 And I answered it.

00:07:27.960 Explain what you know.

00:07:28.160 You're shaming me for my political choices.

00:07:30.080 I'm asking you a question about why you endorse someone who's been found liable for rape.

00:07:34.380 It was not a criminal court.

00:07:36.200 And by the way, she joked about the judgment and what she was going to do with all that money.

00:07:40.640 And I find that offensive.

00:07:41.640 How is the question asking you about a presidential candidate who's been not found?

00:07:44.020 You're asking a rape victim.

00:07:45.600 And you're questioning my political choices because I've been raped.

00:07:48.420 I think that's disgusting.

00:07:49.000 No, I'm questioning your political choices because you're supporting them.

00:07:51.380 You're shaming me.

00:07:52.100 You're trying to shaming me.

00:07:52.360 Someone who's been found liable for rape.

00:07:54.140 You're not answering the question.

00:07:55.420 I think it's disgusting.

00:07:57.420 Well, you're welcome to say that, but you also have to answer the question.

00:08:00.640 If you want to defend a woman who made a mockery out of rape, then you go ahead and do that.

00:08:04.540 I'm not going to do that.

00:08:05.260 Well, actually, what you're doing is defending a man who's been found liable for rape.

00:08:09.020 I don't understand how you can do that.

00:08:10.280 The judge affirmed that it was, in fact, rape.

00:08:13.560 Donald Trump was found to have committed rape.

00:08:16.080 That's just a fact.

00:08:17.220 We'll let the viewers decide about that.

00:08:18.860 But let's talk about January 6th.

00:08:21.280 What a kind, sensitive man who clearly cares deeply about women and their sexual assault

00:08:27.360 allegations.

00:08:28.180 Thanks for being an ally, George.

00:08:30.620 I see how concerned you are that victims might not come forward if they are publicly attacked

00:08:35.620 by their rapist or his defenders.

00:08:37.740 To be sure, that is a very real concern.

00:08:40.300 It happens all the time, which, you know, because you invented it.

00:08:45.840 Remember when you created a whole command center designed to smear Bill Clinton's sexual assault

00:08:51.660 and rape accusers so you could elevate him right into the presidency.

00:08:56.040 The attorney, representing many of Bill's accusers, and there were many, George, Juanita Broderick,

00:09:02.500 Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers, to name just a few, said you and James Carville

00:09:07.460 at Hillary Clinton's direction formed a so-called war room whose purpose was, quote, to destroy

00:09:13.920 any woman that would challenge Bill Clinton.

00:09:16.940 You know the war room.

00:09:18.140 They made a whole movie about it.

00:09:19.380 George Stephanopoulos, I'm director of communications.

00:09:22.520 Bush was on the defensive.

00:09:23.920 Another good night for Bill Clinton.

00:09:25.060 Three debates, three wins.

00:09:26.340 I guarantee you that if you do this, you'll never work in democratic politics again.

00:09:31.280 Such a tough guy.

00:09:33.000 This attorney points out that you don't like to talk about this particular behavior, George.

00:09:37.960 Maybe that's why you skipped it in your discussion with Nancy Mace.

00:09:41.060 But as you know, private detectives were hired.

00:09:44.320 The women say they were threatened and they were publicly shamed by you.

00:09:48.560 You and your well-funded team.

00:09:51.260 Did you worry then that this behavior might shame victims from coming forward?

00:09:56.800 You admitted in your own memoir that Hillary Clinton told you about one accuser, quote,

00:10:01.160 we have to destroy her story.

00:10:03.280 Did you object?

00:10:04.560 Did you say, that's shaming?

00:10:06.560 No.

00:10:07.460 In fact, you later described yourself as Bill Clinton's, quote, enabler.

00:10:11.900 But sir, how could you have enabled and defended a man like this,

00:10:16.640 accused by multiple women of sexual assault, rape, and harassment?

00:10:22.280 Which brings us to Paula Jones.

00:10:24.980 You were Clinton's attack dog when Jones came forward claiming Bill Clinton had exposed himself

00:10:31.160 to her.

00:10:32.040 That when he was governor of Arkansas, he summoned her through state troopers to a Little Rock,

00:10:38.380 Arkansas hotel room and took out his penis.

00:10:40.400 A charge Clinton denies, just as Trump denies E.

00:10:44.840 Jean Carroll's allegations against him.

00:10:47.600 What do you think he wanted done with that thing, George?

00:10:49.500 Just a little show and tell?

00:10:52.040 Jones was poor, a graduate of secretarial school, and worked for the state.

00:10:57.440 She had no power, no connections, and he was the sitting governor.

00:11:01.220 She didn't go to Columbia and Oxford and become a Rhodes Scholar like you, George.

00:11:07.380 She was a nothing to you.

00:11:10.320 Your buddy Carville immediately went after Ms. Jones, infamously saying,

00:11:14.080 if you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find.

00:11:17.780 And you?

00:11:18.900 Did you defend Paula Jones saying, we don't shame accusers?

00:11:23.400 That's wrong.

00:11:25.160 No.

00:11:26.260 You compared Jones to Tanya Harding as, quoting here from the New York Times,

00:11:31.240 just another woman seeking cash for telling a tabloid tale.

00:11:35.180 Fire up that war room, George, and destroy her.

00:11:39.780 Bill Clinton would ultimately pay Paula Jones almost a million dollars to settle her civil

00:11:45.820 suit against him.

00:11:47.300 And you remained Team Clinton all the way.

00:11:51.340 To say nothing of Juanita Broderick's rape allegation or Kathleen Willey's allegations and more.

00:11:57.900 But now you, quote, don't understand how Nancy Mace can support a man found liable for sexual assault

00:12:05.480 of one woman 30 years ago in a civil trial in which the burden of proof is just 51% likely.

00:12:11.600 My God, how did anyone at ABC think this was a good line of inquiry for George Stephanopoulos,

00:12:18.920 of all people to pursue?

00:12:20.740 And one need look no further than the kickoff of your interview to see, you haven't changed,

00:12:28.900 George.

00:12:29.840 Who told you that the thing to do with a rape survivor is to casually begin the interview

00:12:36.320 with her own testimonial about her rape and then immediately attack her?

00:12:41.000 Most people showing this whole exchange that happened on your show on Sunday are not showing

00:12:46.320 the fact that you started the whole thing by bringing up Mace's rape when she was just

00:12:52.500 16 years old.

00:12:54.060 They're making it look like Nancy Mace brought it up to deflect your question.

00:12:58.800 In fact, you shoved it in her face and demanded that she explain how she could still support

00:13:05.320 Trump.

00:13:06.020 How dare you?

00:13:07.460 She was right.

00:13:08.580 You were out of line.

00:13:09.800 You were offensive, especially when the other guy, you know, your guy, Joe Biden, has been

00:13:17.680 accused of rape as well.

00:13:19.820 George, trust me, I know I interviewed his alleged victim.

00:13:24.720 Maybe you missed it because ABC, where you are and were the chief political correspondent,

00:13:31.260 was the only network not to acknowledge or run a single soundbite from our blockbuster interview

00:13:37.300 when it hit and made international headlines.

00:13:39.800 I guess Tara Reid to you didn't matter.

00:13:43.620 Like Tanya Harding and Paula Jones, just another wrong side of the tracks woman, easily dismissed

00:13:49.940 from you and your ivory tower, George.

00:13:52.820 And you did ignore her.

00:13:54.960 And then you got rewarded with an exclusive sit down with Joe Biden, whom you undoubtedly

00:14:01.120 went on to vote for.

00:14:03.220 However, how could you?

00:14:06.480 Yes, hypocrisy is alive and well amongst these sanctimonious leftists from Kimmel to De Niro

00:14:12.860 to Stephanopoulos.

00:14:14.240 They want you to believe they're better than you, more virtuous, more decent.

00:14:19.440 But we all know the truth.

00:14:21.640 They lie.

00:14:22.960 They sin.

00:14:23.900 They do the very things they accuse you of and the things they say they would never do.

00:14:29.840 Evil things like try to destroy people based on feigned outrage from which they spare their

00:14:36.020 own side or playing politics with a woman's rape.

00:14:39.780 The GOP is capable of hypocrisy, too, to be sure.

00:14:45.640 But this weekend, these leftists, best performance in a leading role, bar none.

00:14:54.240 Joining me now, Andrew Klavan.

00:14:56.260 He's the host of The Daily Wire's The Andrew Klavan Show and the author of the recently released

00:15:00.860 book, The House of Love and Death.

00:15:04.720 Andrew, great to have you here.

00:15:06.680 What do you make of my award show?

00:15:08.340 Well, first of all, great to see you, Megan.

00:15:11.340 And I thought that was a fantastic opening.

00:15:13.960 I thought you went a little easy on George Stephanopoulos, to be honest with you.

00:15:17.500 Not only did he do everything that you said he did, but he was hired by ABC with that as

00:15:23.280 his background.

00:15:24.240 He has no journalistic background.

00:15:25.820 He was hired strictly for what he did for Clinton, which was what he called staunching bimbo

00:15:32.980 eruptions.

00:15:33.640 Bimbos being women who had been assaulted or claimed very plausibly to have been assaulted

00:15:39.420 by Bill Clinton, whom he shut up.

00:15:41.660 And basically, you showed that wonderful clip that I've shown on my show, too, of him threatening

00:15:47.540 a journalist with destroying her career, if she should bring that up.

00:15:51.760 He not only did that recently, we got from the Veritas, Project Veritas people, we got

00:15:58.740 that clip of ABC anchorwoman Amy Robach, I think her name was, saying that ABC had all

00:16:05.980 the news on Jeffrey Epstein, including his associations with Bill Clinton, and spiked it.

00:16:12.300 The ABC claimed that Stephanopoulos had absolutely nothing to do with that decision, but I don't

00:16:18.080 see how that's possible, seeing as he was essentially in charge of what went out as ABC News.

00:16:24.720 He's also a man who attended a gala honoring Jeffrey Epstein after he was convicted of child

00:16:33.800 trafficking, of sex trafficking.

00:16:35.760 So he's a guy who's just drenched in this stuff.

00:16:39.160 And the fact that there is no scandal that blows back on him, just the stuff that you

00:16:43.160 said right there, that you can get canceled for what you said, as you pointed out, for

00:16:47.640 you making a perfectly true remark about blackface having historical context, that you can get

00:16:53.640 canceled for that.

00:16:54.780 But you can't get canceled for a career in shaming and silencing women with plausible accusations

00:17:02.280 of rape against your candidate.

00:17:04.040 I mean, it would be shocking if we didn't know that that's the world we're living in,

00:17:09.520 if we didn't understand that what is called the resistance is, in fact, an incredible wall

00:17:14.920 of power in communications, in politics, in academia.

00:17:20.360 And George Stephanopoulos is kind of the poster child for that.

00:17:23.300 He is completely untouched.

00:17:25.500 Yeah.

00:17:26.060 To the point, Andrew, where his hubris and self-delusion have grown so large that he

00:17:33.780 thinks he can cross-examine an actual rape survivor on how she could get behind a presidential

00:17:42.480 candidate accused of rape.

00:17:45.260 How did somebody not stop him at ABC and say, George, you're not it?

00:17:52.260 I was sorry.

00:17:55.780 And I didn't blame her.

00:17:56.940 I thought I would have been thrown off, too, by that kind of questioning.

00:18:00.180 I was sorry that Nancy didn't have the information that you just had.

00:18:04.620 I know.

00:18:04.920 To come back on.

00:18:05.840 She did great.

00:18:06.440 But that would have been a nicer turn.

00:18:08.620 She did absolutely great.

00:18:09.660 But it is.

00:18:10.160 But just in terms of what she actually said, it is shaming to say you have a political opinion.

00:18:16.220 You are a politician who made a political decision.

00:18:19.120 How does that fit in if you're being raped is if somehow she were stripped of her power

00:18:23.560 to make political decisions by the fact that some clown attacked her, which is incredibly

00:18:28.240 shaming and an incredibly an incredible act of blaming the victim for something that she

00:18:33.400 had nothing to do with.

00:18:34.840 How is she supposed to lose her agency, to lose her voice because somebody raped her?

00:18:40.120 That's insane.

00:18:41.020 And the fact that she has to believe everyone else that the implication, of course, Andrew,

00:18:45.840 is that she must believe E. Jean Carroll she has to, even though we've all had the chance

00:18:50.120 to listen to E. Jean Carroll for three years now.

00:18:52.400 We know that this is a political hit job, that the law was changed so she could come forward,

00:18:56.440 that she herself joked about rape being sexy and that she couldn't even remember what year

00:19:00.800 this alleged rape happened in.

00:19:02.140 You are completely within your mind to say, with all due respect to rape victims, I don't

00:19:07.960 believe this particular one.

00:19:09.240 That's OK that you're not anti holding rapists accountable if you don't happen to believe

00:19:16.100 her.

00:19:16.360 It's the left that tells us we have to believe all women.

00:19:19.920 Of course.

00:19:20.320 And this was this was such an unfair event.

00:19:23.260 I mean, these the law that allowed people to go back past the sell by date of these accusations

00:19:29.320 was put in place strictly to get Trump.

00:19:31.660 The fact that she was not he he was not found guilty of rape by the jury.

00:19:36.780 The judge just sort of announced that he believed that's an important to be guilty of rape.

00:19:41.140 And so he was never convicted of anything.

00:19:43.060 And as you say, it was a civil trial, not a criminal trial.

00:19:45.800 So the burden of proof was much, much lower.

00:19:49.340 Of course, this is true.

00:19:51.780 Criminality, acts of criminality like rape.

00:19:53.940 I mean, it is one of the worst crimes you can commit.

00:19:57.100 But that doesn't mean that somebody committed it just because you're accused of it.

00:20:00.120 And just because people shouted at you doesn't mean you committed it.

00:20:02.940 And there's a New York jury that hates Trump.

00:20:05.700 That hates Republicans.

00:20:07.740 I mean, that hasn't been factored in at all.

00:20:09.620 But I do want to spend one minute on what you said, because Stephanopoulos kept saying

00:20:13.080 he was found liable for rape, found liable for rape in a civil court.

00:20:17.440 And finally, Mace did point out he wasn't he wasn't found liable for rape.

00:20:21.240 It was sexual assault.

00:20:22.420 And George Stephanopoulos doubled down and said the judge said he was found liable for rape.

00:20:28.180 And just so the audience understands what actually happened in that civil case.

00:20:31.680 The jury rejected the rape charge.

00:20:35.040 There were at least two boxes they could have checked.

00:20:37.380 Did he rape her?

00:20:38.440 Did he sexually assault her?

00:20:40.320 And they said yes to sexual assault.

00:20:42.540 And they said no to rape.

00:20:44.540 Then the judge, after the fact, in trying to explain how they got to the conclusion that

00:20:50.720 he sexually assaulted but did not rape E.

00:20:54.320 Jean Carroll, explained that E.

00:20:57.820 Jean Carroll had given testimony that he allegedly grabbed her, put his mouth on hers, yanked down

00:21:03.360 her tights and penetrated her with his hand and then with his penis.

00:21:07.540 Under New York criminal law, an assault constitutes rape only if it involves vaginal penetration

00:21:14.200 by a penis.

00:21:15.520 Sorry for the graphicness, but this is the story.

00:21:18.620 This was the definition the jury was instructed to use in the civil case.

00:21:23.220 So you the jurors were saying that this sexual abuse found finding necessarily implies that

00:21:32.580 they believes he penetrated her with his fingers.

00:21:36.300 But obviously they had some doubts about the penis rape.

00:21:40.940 Sorry, again, very early in the day to be getting so graphic.

00:21:43.940 But this is what a real anchor on ABC would have done and wouldn't have been so loose with

00:21:50.600 the language in trying to lecture an actual rape victim who did point out there's a distinction

00:21:57.220 between sexual assault and rape and was accurately trying to point out it mattered in the civil

00:22:02.860 case.

00:22:03.640 Once again, ABC falls down on the job.

00:22:06.980 And no matter what you think about Donald Trump, he is not being treated fairly by the law in New

00:22:12.100 York or in D.C., how how can somebody defend himself against an accusation when they can't

00:22:18.080 even when the accuser can't even remember the year?

00:22:20.600 How are you supposed to say, well, you accuse me of this.

00:22:23.100 But on that day, I was in Baltimore when the accuser can't even say what year she's talking

00:22:28.640 about.

00:22:29.140 I mean, surely, surely some kind of specificity is required to accuse somebody of a crime so

00:22:36.600 heinous.

00:22:36.980 And I just think the way that Trump is being treated has elevated him in ways that the left

00:22:41.960 must not have foreseen or they wouldn't have done it.

00:22:44.820 They have just treated him so badly.

00:22:47.660 And the fact the fact that he's still walking around and still, you know, copacetic and still

00:22:52.500 making jokes and things like that elevates him maybe beyond what he deserves, but still

00:22:57.300 because he's been so unfairly treated.

00:22:59.660 And I just think that to pass that on to Nancy Mace, who is, in fact, a rape victim, when you

00:23:04.920 are George Stephanopoulos, who is, in fact, a man who has covered up for an accused rapist

00:23:09.860 and silenced apparent rape victims, alleged rape victims, it's just an incredible display

00:23:17.300 of raw power by a media that is owned all by one side, which is not necessarily the leftist

00:23:24.280 side.

00:23:24.500 It's the corporate side.

00:23:25.660 It's the deep state side, which has become the leftist side because that's what feeds the

00:23:30.360 power of the government and the corporations.

00:23:32.800 I mean, I'm not sure these guys really care about the politics so much as they care about

00:23:37.040 their power.

00:23:38.600 And this this was an incredible display of that power as we see it all the time.

00:23:43.700 It was in one day.

00:23:45.440 You know, you got the Sunday morning show with Stephanopoulos into the evening Academy Awards

00:23:49.260 broadcast with Kimmel and ABC elevating, you know, the blackface loving Kimmel, who was

00:23:55.800 speaking in Ebonics, wearing an Afro and like, no problem.

00:24:01.020 Right.

00:24:01.420 It's OK.

00:24:01.980 With the bald head and then the fat suit and then, OK, that's no problem for them.

00:24:07.040 But they at the same time, Andrew fired Chris Harrison, host of The Bachelor, for trying

00:24:13.340 to defend one contestant on like The Bachelorette for saying, gee, I know I went to this antebellum

00:24:19.980 party, you know, a couple of years ago.

00:24:21.680 I guess I didn't see anything wrong with it.

00:24:23.020 And all he said was, are we judging her by today's standards?

00:24:26.180 Are we judging her by, you know, old standards, whatever?

00:24:29.360 He was basically trying to say, are we being too hard on her?

00:24:31.560 Got fired.

00:24:32.440 Chris Harrison has to be fired by ABC.

00:24:34.100 I don't know why, because he's not a committed leftist, because he's not out there more saying

00:24:39.460 all the terrible things about Republicans that Jimmy Kimmel says, which was 100 percent his

00:24:44.580 insurance card to his scandal.

00:24:46.840 Right.

00:24:47.100 They weren't going to cancel.

00:24:48.060 Somebody like that was on the air every night ripping on Trump.

00:24:51.140 And the Academy, as you know, at the same time, tries to cloak itself, notwithstanding

00:24:55.920 celebrating Tropic Thunder and, you know, putting Billy Crystal on the Oscars in blackface.

00:25:01.820 They're trying to celebrate how now, now you can't even get nominated for best picture

00:25:06.820 unless you assure them that you have, oh, I wrote it down, has to be at least two of four.

00:25:13.280 The lead or significant supporting actors have to be a member of a racial or an ethnic group

00:25:20.100 of the Academy's choosing.

00:25:22.740 At least 30 percent of all actors in secondary roles have to be from underrepresented groups.

00:25:29.400 The main storyline has to center on women or racial or ethnic groups who are underrepresented,

00:25:35.440 underrepresented like LGBTQ, including people with disabilities.

00:25:38.860 You have to hit at least two of the four.

00:25:40.840 So this is them saying, we get it.

00:25:44.040 We're an ally.

00:25:45.380 Right.

00:25:45.980 And I guess maybe they're trying to make up with their racist past for their racist past

00:25:49.660 without ever acknowledging it.

00:25:50.840 You know, you're also leaving out Kevin Hart, which was one of the stories that really offended

00:25:57.040 me.

00:25:58.020 Kevin Hart, a black guy who worked to the top of one of the toughest professions to get

00:26:01.540 to comedy, show business.

00:26:03.380 I mean, you don't nobody understands what it takes to get into that that top rank.

00:26:07.540 His dream was to host the Oscars.

00:26:09.840 And because they found some tweet making a discouraging or disparaging remark about gay people.

00:26:15.120 And it was a Cowboys and Indians party with his kid.

00:26:17.160 But it was, yeah, I mean, and it just wasn't that that was one of the things he got in

00:26:20.840 trouble for.

00:26:21.880 Yeah.

00:26:22.060 So he was he was canceled from his dream job after working to get to the place where he

00:26:27.240 would be offered that job.

00:26:28.540 On top of which, I hate to point this out because I don't like to play the left's game.

00:26:32.920 But after putting in place all those rules that you mentioned there, you know, it's it's

00:26:38.660 kind of manipulable.

00:26:39.580 You can kind of get away with putting hiring black people, what they call below the line,

00:26:44.040 people who don't show up on screen and you can then be qualified.

00:26:47.840 But after all that, it was the most white Oscar I can remember.

00:26:52.040 I mean, there was no none of the only one one black actress won for her role.

00:26:59.240 And she was very good in the holdovers.

00:27:01.420 But the rest, it was all, you know, Oppenheimer, pure white cast.

00:27:05.780 All of the stories that were celebrated were white, except for American fiction, which was

00:27:11.160 a very, very good movie, one for screenplay and was a very good movie making fun of woke

00:27:16.420 white people, making fun of the fact that black people have to basically take on the

00:27:21.580 roles that rich, white, woke people give them or they can't make a living.

00:27:26.700 I mean, if you if you missed American fiction, I highly recommend it.

00:27:29.760 It's a very good movie.

00:27:31.100 But all it does is make fun.

00:27:32.680 For the most part, all it does is make fun of white, woke people forcing black people

00:27:37.260 into the roles that white people want to see them in.

00:27:40.440 And so the entire Oscar was just an absolute disaster for its own wokeness, which you can't

00:27:47.800 help it.

00:27:48.240 I mean, wokeness is such a stupid, self-contradictory, virtue signaling, wicked philosophy that if

00:27:55.460 you have any heart at all, you're going to step on yourself trying to express it.

00:28:00.420 I mean, it's just a philosophy that needs to be tossed out the window.

00:28:03.500 The DEI of it all needs to be tossed out the window.

00:28:05.800 The George Floyd worshiping, guilt mongering ideas have to be thrown out the window.

00:28:11.400 All of them serve rich white people.

00:28:13.740 None of them serve the actual black guy in his life or any of us in our lives.

00:28:18.100 It's and Hollywood has just become, you know, you pointed out Robert De Niro talking about

00:28:24.900 the fact that he couldn't imagine how you could play Donald Trump because there's not

00:28:28.760 one inch of goodness in him.

00:28:30.440 Here's a guy who's done nothing his whole career, but play gangsters who will kill you

00:28:34.140 as soon as look at you.

00:28:35.820 Yes, I could have kept going.

00:28:36.860 Al Capone, we could go down the list.

00:28:38.500 I mean, who's a real guy?

00:28:39.800 I'm not talking about just the fictional characters.

00:28:41.440 That's one thing.

00:28:42.000 The actual real bad guy.

00:28:43.680 Al Capone's reportedly killed over 200 people when he was alive.

00:28:46.740 No problem playing him.

00:28:47.760 But Trump, no, bridge too far.

00:28:50.300 Which shows you, it shows you that this whole thing is taking place in their imagination.

00:28:54.680 And because they own the media, they're never required to step out of their imagination into

00:28:59.620 the real world and say, well, wait a minute, if Trump is Hitler, where are all the dead bodies?

00:29:03.960 How come we never started a war while Trump was president?

00:29:08.120 They're living entirely wrapped in their own imagination.

00:29:11.040 And unlike conservatives, they're not forced out of their imagination.

00:29:14.580 We're forced out of our imaginations because we hear their arguments all the time.

00:29:18.680 We hear their arguments in the news media.

00:29:20.260 We hear it in the Hollywood.

00:29:21.340 We hear it in academia.

00:29:22.600 They never hear our arguments.

00:29:24.020 They have no idea what we believe.

00:29:25.700 They have no idea.

00:29:26.820 They think we're all sort of goose stepping around, worried about whether the little mermaid

00:29:30.660 is black or white.

00:29:32.020 But in fact, the entire philosophy of conservatism, which is the philosophy of the founding of the

00:29:37.560 United States, is ignored by them because they are living in their imagination and they

00:29:42.120 have built their imagination out to encompass the entire communicating world.

00:29:47.400 So it's just galling, right, to watch Kimmel get out there night after night and talk

00:29:51.700 about how riddance, riddance, he said to Republican viewers who don't like his stance on guns and

00:29:57.460 some of these other leftist causes.

00:29:59.200 I'm virtuous.

00:30:00.200 I understand.

00:30:01.020 Like, I've evolved with the times.

00:30:02.760 And so they forget.

00:30:03.560 And then you watch Stephanopoulos, like, he's a real ally, as I sarcastically said in my

00:30:08.500 talking point.

00:30:08.960 Such an ally to women without looking back at any of his past.

00:30:12.760 You know, these people like there's there's absolutely no attempt to fact check or hold

00:30:15.940 these people to account.

00:30:16.800 And that brings me to somebody I've been dying to bring up for several years now.

00:30:20.960 If I don't bring this person up today, Abigail Fine and my assistant is going to be upset

00:30:24.600 with me while we're on the topic of blackface.

00:30:27.100 Now, this woman did not wear blackface.

00:30:29.260 And I actually didn't really even know very well who this person is.

00:30:32.520 But she's a celebrity chef named Padma Lakshmi.

00:30:36.340 And she, for some reason, decided to leave the kitchen and to get up in my grill back

00:30:43.380 in 2018 on NBC when I said, you know, people used to wear a blackface and it wasn't such

00:30:48.060 a big thing.

00:30:48.720 When did we get to the point where people found it offensive?

00:30:51.420 With I meet, she went off on me on Twitter.

00:30:54.140 This chef, OK, saying I pulled a couple of comments.

00:30:58.780 I was ignorant, uneducated, and she lectured me that caricaturing another race perpetuates

00:31:06.080 the dehumanization of people of color.

00:31:09.480 So I always wondered whether Padma was going to go on Jimmy Kimmel, right?

00:31:15.960 Like, would she she's so disgusted with me saying people used to do this.

00:31:20.020 Trust me.

00:31:20.460 Would she draw the line on Jimmy Kimmel and his Karl Malone imitation and his Oprah blackface

00:31:26.940 fat suit?

00:31:27.680 Was that, you know, not to mention all the stuff he did about women.

00:31:31.040 Would that be a bridge too far?

00:31:32.620 Well, she has a new show out, apparently, or at least new as of last year.

00:31:37.820 And she did go on Jimmy Kimmel.

00:31:40.420 Shocking, I'm sure.

00:31:41.760 You can't believe she would overlook his racist past to go promote her show.

00:31:46.080 And I'll here's just a clip of her talking to him about the nature of this show.

00:31:51.900 OK, watch this first one first.

00:31:53.820 This is a SOT 11.

00:31:57.560 It's really a political show, cultural show, and it allows me to artistically or, you know,

00:32:03.040 with entertainment, say what I want to say will show rather than say what I would say

00:32:07.980 if I got on my soapbox.

00:32:10.300 OK, that's wonderful.

00:32:11.680 She's going full political now.

00:32:13.060 She's going to let her flag fly and come after people, politics, culture, everything's

00:32:18.960 on the table.

00:32:19.700 So I'm sure in the next bit, she must have gone after Kimmel for his long history of

00:32:25.080 misogyny and racism.

00:32:27.120 And we have this queued up.

00:32:28.380 Let's see what happened.

00:32:30.860 And there's this big controversy about whether you, you know, ketchup or no ketchup.

00:32:35.320 Where do you stand on the ketchup on the pasteles?

00:32:38.200 I say no ketchup.

00:32:39.280 No ketchup.

00:32:39.860 No ketchup.

00:32:40.220 I would imagine that no ketchup is the right way to go.

00:32:43.300 You know, I don't know.

00:32:44.400 It's not for me to say.

00:32:45.600 Ketchup is so divisive in so many ways.

00:32:50.240 So divisive.

00:32:53.380 I'm sorry.

00:32:54.000 I have to say for me, it's personally cathartic because it's like at the time, Andrew, to be

00:32:58.560 honest, when all these people were attacking me, it was traumatic.

00:33:02.180 And now you're like, they just expose themselves over time.

00:33:05.120 You just realize these people are not honest.

00:33:07.280 They're attacking you for your politics, not for anything you've actually said on culture

00:33:13.360 or some alleged sin of the day.

00:33:16.280 You know, when this happened to you, Megan, I was talking on my show about it and I was

00:33:20.780 talking about the fact that the entire idea that they were bringing down on your head is

00:33:25.560 racist per se.

00:33:26.780 If your child, if your black child came to you and said he wanted to go out on Halloween

00:33:32.960 as Batman, would you tell him you can't go out as Batman because Batman is white?

00:33:37.580 And similarly, if your white child came to you and said he wanted to go out as Black Panther,

00:33:41.700 would you tell him that he couldn't because Black Panther was black?

00:33:44.840 There's a wonderful scene in a movie of the recent movie about Jackie Robinson, the first

00:33:50.480 obviously black baseball player in the majors, where they look out a window and they see a

00:33:56.460 little white boy up at bat pretending he's Jackie Robinson.

00:33:59.820 And it's incredibly moving because you realize what a tremendous impact it is to have black

00:34:04.960 heroes.

00:34:05.600 So now a white kid is pretending to be a black kid.

00:34:08.480 He's not even thinking about the color of his skin.

00:34:10.660 That's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

00:34:12.060 He's pretending to be Jackie Robinson because Jackie Robinson is his hero.

00:34:15.680 That's obviously the goal.

00:34:17.380 That is obviously what America is supposed to be like.

00:34:20.500 But once you start saying, well, no, no, no, just the very putting on.

00:34:23.880 Look, there are times when people putting on blackface has been incredibly offensive.

00:34:27.800 There's no question about that.

00:34:29.140 Definitely.

00:34:29.600 But to simply isolate it without any kind of nuance, any kind of historical context,

00:34:34.040 which is all you were doing, is insane.

00:34:36.520 It always comes back to racism with the left because they obviously are thinking in

00:34:42.020 a racist way.

00:34:43.220 The best of conservatives are saying, no, look, we've got to be colorblind.

00:34:46.640 There are going to be differences in races.

00:34:47.980 There are going to be conflicts.

00:34:48.940 We're trying to do something that hasn't been done since ancient Rome.

00:34:51.900 We're trying to build a multi-ethnic community.

00:34:54.780 You know, people think that there are other multi-ethnic communities like ours, but you only

00:34:57.860 have to look at a picture of foreign cities to know that's not true.

00:35:01.820 This is a unique experiment.

00:35:03.620 It really has not been done since the Roman Republic.

00:35:07.000 And it's hard.

00:35:08.520 What we're trying to do is difficult, and there are going to be bumps in the road.

00:35:11.880 But if all you can do is focus, focus, focus on race, you're just going to end up with

00:35:16.340 racism.

00:35:16.840 And if you give awards and money to clowns like Ibram Kendi, who thinks that anti-racism

00:35:22.100 is race, you know, racism and anti-racism are basically the same thing.

00:35:25.180 Nicole Hannah-Jones, too.

00:35:26.320 Ibram D'Angelo.

00:35:26.680 You're going to be sunk in that mess forever.

00:35:30.660 Well, it's funny because I think back, you know, at the time, and it was like you had

00:35:34.700 people like Al Roker, Kathy Griffin, Don Lemon, Patton Oswalt, all of these people coming

00:35:42.480 out there to rip on me, like horrified that I would talk about blackface like this.

00:35:47.840 And yet, oddly silent when it came out that some of their heroes like Jimmy Fallon wore

00:35:54.020 it, Jimmy Kimmel, and I'm sure they would never, ever step foot on that Jimmy Kimmel

00:35:58.640 set.

00:35:59.040 Why would they sit across from a blackface loving host like Jim?

00:36:03.120 Oh, wait, what?

00:36:03.980 We have another clip?

00:36:05.040 Let's watch.

00:36:07.280 Why the serious ghost?

00:36:09.320 My daughter, when she was about two years old, she'd sometimes have a mad face on.

00:36:14.780 And I'd say, are you a silly goose or a serious goose?

00:36:18.560 I'm dressed as a Pattonton bear.

00:36:22.240 The swamp ass going on right now is epic.

00:36:25.520 What's trailer?

00:36:26.340 Taylor Swift.

00:36:27.320 And what's his face?

00:36:28.820 The other guy.

00:36:29.580 Oh, Travis Kelsey.

00:36:31.300 Yes, Travis Kelsey.

00:36:33.840 You do the same thing that I do, except you do it with humor.

00:36:37.140 I'm a huge, huge fan.

00:36:40.580 And you're leaving out, by the way, the man show.

00:36:43.080 You forgot about the man show where he would go out and, you know, do degrading things to

00:36:47.000 women for laughs, which was, which was legitimately funny.

00:36:50.340 Some of it, you know, but it's like, let's talk about that.

00:36:52.460 Cause that was co-hosted by, I think our mutual friend, Adam Carolla.

00:36:55.260 And I realized that they crossed some, you know, lines there and did some things that

00:36:59.480 are, you know, pressing the boundaries for sure.

00:37:01.460 But to be honest, I wasn't offended by the man show at the time.

00:37:04.960 And, and like Kimmel, for sure, those are bad clips of him in the Oprah fat suit with the

00:37:09.460 blackface, but there were different standards.

00:37:11.980 Like it, what most people were actually not offended.

00:37:15.660 That's why he went on to get hired as the ABC host.

00:37:19.480 Like, that's the point I'm really trying to make here, right?

00:37:23.080 That it's like, we, we have had evolving standards in the country and that's okay.

00:37:29.460 And most of us on our side, don't run around, just need your calling people like Kimmel,

00:37:34.260 racist or misogynist, whatever, we're kind of like live and let live people evolve society

00:37:40.140 changes.

00:37:40.780 It all works out in the end.

00:37:42.440 It's, it is that side that is obsessed with skin color and gender and hierarchies that they

00:37:50.180 are necessarily recreating to your point.

00:37:52.780 But what we're trying to do is tricky and it's never been done before.

00:37:56.080 And we were getting there.

00:37:57.680 We were getting there.

00:37:58.620 And thanks to these people, we're blowing it up right now.

00:38:01.880 Well, because they have to keep it in play.

00:38:04.360 It's the only argument they have, the policies that simply do not work.

00:38:08.320 I mean, since really since FDR, but if you just want to take it since the great society,

00:38:12.920 their policies have not improved the lives of black people.

00:38:15.880 They have slowed black people's rise into the middle class.

00:38:18.480 They have cut off, they've destroyed the black family with their stupid policies and their

00:38:22.540 misguided feminism.

00:38:23.860 They've destroyed whole black families.

00:38:26.500 There are now more black children being born out of wedlock than there were when Democrats

00:38:31.540 were actually breaking them up because the Democrats were the slaveholders.

00:38:35.560 So these are things that have, you know, just gone terribly wrong.

00:38:39.260 And the only way they can defend this palace of money that they built, this great society

00:38:44.440 which pours money and power into the Democrat Party and into leftist causes, the only way

00:38:49.620 they can defend it is by calling anybody who stands up against it racist.

00:38:52.820 If you're against the welfare system, if you're against fatherlessness, families, if you're

00:38:56.940 against actual crime in the streets, mostly in black neighborhoods where the black criminals

00:39:02.380 hurt other black people, if you oppose those things, you must be racist.

00:39:06.140 So they have to keep these accusations alive.

00:39:09.080 And of course, they become absurd and ridiculous because, you know, people live together.

00:39:14.540 There's some hostility.

00:39:15.860 There's some jokes.

00:39:16.580 One of the worst things they've done, in my opinion, is stopped us from joking about one

00:39:21.100 another.

00:39:21.840 Because joking is what friends do to one another, especially male friends.

00:39:25.440 We make fun of one another.

00:39:26.700 That's how we relate.

00:39:28.540 And when you say that, oh, you can't make a joke about a black guy.

00:39:30.980 You can't make a joke about a Jewish guy.

00:39:32.380 You can't make a joke about Irish, Italian people.

00:39:34.260 You're actually keeping us apart.

00:39:35.840 You're not bringing us together.

00:39:37.280 Teasing each other is part of, you know, it's part of what friends do.

00:39:39.780 It's part of what lovers do, too.

00:39:41.100 So all of that stuff that, you know, they did on The Man Club was kind of funny because

00:39:45.520 sex is funny.

00:39:47.060 The relations between the sexes are fraught and funny.

00:39:48.900 They were in on the joke.

00:39:50.920 Right, right.

00:39:51.620 And I think that killing humor, making people feel that they have to walk on eggshells before

00:39:56.380 they make a joke or use a phrase or speak some words that might be taken in the wrong

00:40:01.080 way, especially if they're on the right.

00:40:03.060 That's what it's all about.

00:40:04.380 It is about that.

00:40:05.440 It's about that silence, about that fear.

00:40:07.600 It has nothing to do with race because they've done nothing to help people of any race whatsoever.

00:40:12.220 I mean, everything, everything left is touched, turned to crap.

00:40:15.960 I mean, everything they touch gets worse.

00:40:17.940 And so they just defend it with these policies and they're meant to silence us.

00:40:22.560 And they were, you know, it worked when they they hurt your career briefly.

00:40:26.180 I mean, it's wonderful that you have the skill and the will to come back.

00:40:30.820 But but of course, they're powerful enough to hurt you if they want to.

00:40:34.580 No, I was on every newspaper and every television program in the country as a racist.

00:40:40.420 That is what they did to me as a result of my one comment, truly.

00:40:44.700 And then they drudged up old media matters nonsense about like me calling these guys in

00:40:49.840 a gang thugs.

00:40:51.400 See, that's racist, too.

00:40:52.540 And try to build a narrative about you to try to take you out.

00:40:55.400 And thank God they didn't keep me out.

00:40:57.200 But yeah, look, I wasn't the only one.

00:40:59.560 They've done it to so many people and smeared them.

00:41:01.980 People who haven't been able to come back, who maybe didn't have as, you know, great a

00:41:06.340 foothold in their career as I did when they tried to take me down, who really struggle

00:41:11.000 to get back out there.

00:41:12.140 And so fuck these people.

00:41:13.220 I mean, that's really where I land, like they can fuck off, like they're terrible people

00:41:18.420 and you can see it.

00:41:19.900 They are awful people.

00:41:21.500 And I'm really happy you mentioned this this fact that people like you and me, because

00:41:27.440 I was thrown out of Hollywood who have established themselves to a certain degree, have a way

00:41:31.880 back.

00:41:32.360 We have a we have a skill set that's been proved and we can say to people, look, I can do this

00:41:37.380 thing and they will agree.

00:41:38.840 But I know a lot of people, a lot of people who are just on that upward trajectory or just

00:41:44.100 proving themselves, just getting to Broadway, just getting into the great galleries, just

00:41:49.100 getting into the novel publishing business who were quashed because they weren't quite

00:41:54.160 left enough where they said something and the Twitter crowds came after them.

00:41:57.740 And there's no way back for them.

00:41:59.080 And it drives them insane because they were made by God to do what they were doing.

00:42:03.280 I mean, artists are not made.

00:42:04.940 They are created, you know, and I think that when that is frustrated and the ambition that

00:42:09.600 you have is frustrated, it drives you insane.

00:42:12.000 And it's it's heartbreaking.

00:42:13.840 It is absolutely heartbreaking.

00:42:15.640 I mean, I know because I'm at the Daily Wire and the Daily Wire has a cultural, you

00:42:19.560 know, agenda.

00:42:20.300 I get letters every day.

00:42:22.160 Can you help me?

00:42:22.820 Can you help me do this?

00:42:23.740 Can you help me do that?

00:42:24.500 And the fact is, no, I can't.

00:42:26.100 You know, I wish I could, but I can't.

00:42:27.900 And it's it's brutal.

00:42:29.240 It is brutal.

00:42:29.960 And your immortal words of what they can do with themselves, I think, should be chiseled

00:42:34.700 over the hall of the academy, because really they have destroyed so much and done so little

00:42:40.580 good.

00:42:41.740 Yeah.

00:42:42.220 And you mentioned earlier, you know, the media enablers like Stephanopoulos, who will run cover

00:42:46.380 for the Bidens of the world and try to make people like Nancy Mace look like they're on

00:42:50.840 the wrong side of rape, an actual rape victim.

00:42:54.540 And that continued as late as this morning and will continue to, I'm sure, because that

00:43:00.160 clip that we showed of Stephanopoulos with Nancy Mace is being used by the left.

00:43:04.900 The left is loving that today.

00:43:06.920 They're ripping on her.

00:43:09.460 And again, none of them will show the fact that he brought it up.

00:43:14.300 He got into the segment with her by running the clip about her rape.

00:43:19.600 She didn't go there.

00:43:21.160 She didn't just go, hey, I'm a rape victim.

00:43:22.640 You can't ask me about Trump.

00:43:23.840 And, you know, he set it up that way.

00:43:27.220 That's why she was defensive.

00:43:29.120 Of course, it's so dishonest.

00:43:31.660 So here's a flavor for how they covered it this morning on Morning Joe.

00:43:35.220 Watch.

00:43:37.060 It's just not offensive and she's not shamed because she's incapable of being shamed.

00:43:41.340 Although she tried to shame E.G.

00:43:43.020 What we saw from Representative Mace there, it was indeed, even though she's impossible

00:43:49.340 to be shamed, it was shameful trying to twist what George Stephanopoulos did and go on the

00:43:55.080 political attack, tried to hide behind something, of course, that truly terrible happened in

00:43:59.820 order to defend her support of Donald Trump.

00:44:02.840 Oh, my God.

00:44:05.160 That last guy, Jonathan Lemire, is the chief White House.

00:44:08.820 He's the bureau chief, the White House bureau chief for Politico, which is he's supposed to

00:44:14.280 be a nonpartisan person, also hosts a morning show on MSNBC.

00:44:18.640 She's trying to hide behind her rape.

00:44:21.640 You mean the one that was thrown in her face by Stephanopoulos?

00:44:25.300 And once again, Morning Joe didn't show that that's how it was set up.

00:44:29.840 It's just grossly dishonest, Andrew.

00:44:32.320 And the truth is they're influential.

00:44:35.120 People will look at that and dismiss her as like, oh, she just tried to use her rape to

00:44:40.620 get out of the question.

00:44:42.160 Well, you know, I think that's right.

00:44:43.520 I think they've lost a lot of their credibility.

00:44:45.420 You're talking about NBC, remember, that covered up Harvey Weinstein, that actually shut down

00:44:51.640 Ronan Farrow's book about Harvey Weinstein in order to cover up because their Hollywood

00:44:55.820 and Universal wanted to protect Harvey while they were covering up Matt Lauer's depredation

00:45:01.540 of his staff.

00:45:03.100 I mean, Matt Lauer was accused of sodomizing a woman while she begged him in tears not to.

00:45:09.360 He was accused of taking an assistant and attacking her so badly she fainted and passed out.

00:45:15.400 Had to be taken to the infirmary.

00:45:17.800 I mean, and they silenced all of that for years.

00:45:21.540 You can't tell me they didn't know the guy was doing this in his office where he had a

00:45:25.520 button that locked the door after women came in, or I should say allegedly, since he hasn't

00:45:31.200 been put on trial.

00:45:32.640 But still, still, this is they did everything they could to cover this stuff up.

00:45:37.240 And now they're going to tell us that they're going to elevate George Stephanopoulos again, literally

00:45:43.300 his only credential for doing what he does at ABC was stopping, quote unquote, bimbo eruptions

00:45:50.180 for Bill Clinton, a alleged serial abuser.

00:45:55.540 Where are the rape crisis centers and women's support groups right now?

00:46:01.360 Because Nancy Mace, the only thing they say that she attacked E.G.

00:46:05.120 and Carol in that segment.

00:46:06.000 No, she didn't.

00:46:06.600 She said, I didn't like the way she laughed about what she was going to do with Donald

00:46:09.880 Trump's money after her verdict.

00:46:11.880 It diminished rape victims.

00:46:13.840 And she's right.

00:46:15.040 It a lot of people ran with.

00:46:16.680 She looks like a money grubber.

00:46:17.920 You know, look at her like with.

00:46:18.960 Oh, yeah.

00:46:19.460 I can't wait.

00:46:20.040 I'm going to buy you an apartment.

00:46:21.300 Rachel, you want Paris?

00:46:22.440 I'll buy you.

00:46:23.020 I'll buy you Paris.

00:46:23.760 That's all she said when she was trying to explain why she wasn't all that persuaded

00:46:27.700 by E.G.

00:46:28.240 and Carol and didn't much appreciate the way she talked about rape.

00:46:32.460 It's sexy.

00:46:33.840 Can't wait to spend my money.

00:46:35.760 That's all she did.

00:46:37.180 But those where are the women's advocates now to stand up for Nancy Mace?

00:46:41.060 Because if, you know, a Bill O'Reilly or a Tucker Carlson or a Sean Hannity did this

00:46:47.260 to a female rape victim who was a Democrat, right, who came on their show and try to get

00:46:53.140 up in their grill that they would be speaking out.

00:46:55.960 Right.

00:46:56.120 But she will get no support other than from people on the right wing or who are objective

00:47:01.080 on center right.

00:47:02.960 Well, this is the I've always wondered this about feminism, organizations like now and

00:47:08.020 things, why they are inherently leftist.

00:47:10.600 Why do they have to be inherently leftist?

00:47:12.140 So NBC is covering up for Harvey Weinstein, covering up for Matt Lauer.

00:47:16.260 And then they release, strategically release this tape of Donald Trump, you know, doling

00:47:23.980 out locker room talk about women.

00:47:25.600 And that suddenly starts this movement.

00:47:27.580 Women are pouring out into the streets, you know, with the pink hats and all this stuff.

00:47:31.980 When Brett Kavanaugh is accused by a woman who can't even prove that she's ever met him,

00:47:36.800 that he did something when they were teens.

00:47:39.240 This is amazing.

00:47:40.180 You know, they're storming the Capitol.

00:47:41.740 But when Tara Reid says that Joe Biden threw her up against a wall and penetrated her with

00:47:47.760 his fingers, not only does the New York Times wait, I think it was 20 days before they even

00:47:53.320 covered it and then bury it on the inside of paper on Easter Sunday and basically dismiss

00:47:58.040 it without any kind of investigation whatsoever.

00:48:00.540 But where where are the same women's groups?

00:48:02.580 Why are they inherently leftist?

00:48:04.200 I don't understand why there is not a feminism.

00:48:08.160 I mean, honestly, I think the answer is abortion.

00:48:09.800 That's that's their North Star.

00:48:12.040 Like, that's that's what you're going to vote for abortion.

00:48:14.080 They're they'll protect you and favor you and defend you.

00:48:16.800 And if you're not, then you can go under the bus.

00:48:19.100 That's what happened when Tara Reid went to Time's Up.

00:48:21.420 Joe Biden's top person, Anita Dunn, his top comms person, was helping run it.

00:48:26.100 And they they put Tara Reid under that bus and backed up over her twice as the media came

00:48:31.280 out and tried to say she was some lowlife loser who had had a bankruptcy.

00:48:34.580 I mean, it was absolutely disgusting what they did with her.

00:48:38.060 Got to stand by.

00:48:38.780 We're coming back.

00:48:39.600 We've got a few more minutes together.

00:48:40.880 Quick break.

00:48:41.740 Love talking to Andrew Klavan and Maureen Callahan's ahead as well.

00:48:44.640 Get rid of Kimmel and perhaps replace him with another washed up but cheap ABC talent, George

00:48:52.200 Slopinopoulos.

00:48:53.620 See if you can guess which former president just posted that on Shusa.

00:49:00.000 Anyone?

00:49:00.740 No?

00:49:02.180 Well, thank you, President Trump.

00:49:05.100 Thank you for watching.

00:49:06.240 I'm surprised you're still.

00:49:07.380 Isn't it past your jail time?

00:49:08.840 Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:49:11.960 The Daily Wire's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show, is with me still.

00:49:16.100 Andrew, he found time to take a shot at Trump.

00:49:19.120 He found time to take a shot at Katie Britt.

00:49:23.240 He did not find any time to make fun of Joe Biden, who's the sitting president of the United...

00:49:28.560 I guess there's just no fodder there.

00:49:30.080 There's nothing to joke about.

00:49:31.800 No, he's an obsidian wall.

00:49:33.760 You can't find a way to make any comments about him at all.

00:49:36.800 I mean, he's only following what the news media is doing.

00:49:39.080 Joe Biden got up and gave the worst State of the Union address in my lifetime.

00:49:43.420 I've never seen anything as ugly and divisive as a guy getting up and comparing American citizens

00:49:49.140 to Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

00:49:53.480 It was insane.

00:49:54.580 That's how he started his address.

00:49:56.740 The screaming and the yelling.

00:49:57.740 All we've heard ever since is about Katie Britt, who I admit gave a bad speech.

00:50:03.100 The response to the State of the Union is always bad.

00:50:06.320 You simply are stuck there in this little room responding to the most powerful man on

00:50:11.060 earth in the full pomp of his office.

00:50:14.120 So it's always a bad thing.

00:50:15.700 But nobody has touched the fact that this was genuinely terrible.

00:50:21.680 It was mean.

00:50:22.660 It was loud.

00:50:23.860 It was divisive.

00:50:24.840 He screamed at Americans for not being happy with his inflation riddled economy, with his

00:50:30.460 border, you know, nonsense, trying to blame the border on Republicans, which has been

00:50:35.680 one of the greatest cons ever.

00:50:37.900 And people aren't buying it.

00:50:39.140 It's really interesting that after this full court press by the press to protect Joe Biden

00:50:44.180 after that performance, the reviews, the polls on that State of the Union are still as

00:50:48.780 bad as they can be.

00:50:49.820 So, Jimmy Kimmel, you know, this is the thing.

00:50:52.120 You're not just dealing with the entertainment media.

00:50:54.360 You're dealing with the news media as well.

00:50:56.280 And they're kind of blended together.

00:50:57.560 And they're all blended together with the corporations who are putting Dylan Mulvaney

00:51:02.240 on their, you know, beer bottles.

00:51:05.280 It's all one thing at this point.

00:51:07.260 And I personally, I think it's on the verge of crumbling.

00:51:10.020 I think people are pushing back.

00:51:11.580 You can already see the tide, which had reached a peak right around the George Floyd riots.

00:51:16.060 You can already see it sort of rolling back as people start to realize, you know, we're

00:51:21.300 getting the information anyway.

00:51:22.860 What happens is the lies hit us first and they hit us like a wind.

00:51:25.900 But then slowly through the Internet, the truth comes out.

00:51:29.860 And as the truth comes out, the media loses its credibility because suddenly we see like,

00:51:34.780 oh, yeah, you know, this disease did come from China.

00:51:37.160 Masks don't work.

00:51:38.400 The vaccine can be dangerous.

00:51:39.880 You suddenly see all these lies poked holes in and all the people who are called conspiracy

00:51:44.880 theorists turn out to just be talking common sense, which does make things confusing on

00:51:49.560 the one hand, because there are crazy conspiracy theorists out there.

00:51:52.700 But on the other hand, it just completely eliminates any credibility this media has, whether

00:51:58.900 it's Hollywood media or news media.

00:52:00.560 And I think that that's what's happening.

00:52:01.860 I think that they're leaking like a sieve.

00:52:03.740 And I think it's helping Donald Trump.

00:52:05.340 And I think it's helping people who are basically just not on board with the regime.

00:52:08.920 And it's interesting you should say, whether it's Hollywood media or news media, because

00:52:12.460 it did in that one clip I showed when Don Lemon was on Kimmel's show, he said, you do

00:52:16.200 what I do.

00:52:17.200 And that's exactly right.

00:52:18.120 That's what's happened to the late night hosts.

00:52:20.260 They do just become political commentators.

00:52:22.860 We've talked many times.

00:52:23.860 They want applause.

00:52:24.780 They don't want laughs.

00:52:26.360 And last night, one of the things I thought stood out about Kimmel's hosting was he didn't

00:52:32.040 get it.

00:52:33.260 Like the reason Richie Gervais did so well when he hosted those Golden Globes and just eviscerated

00:52:37.800 everyone in that room is because he was making fun of them on things that we knew were true,

00:52:44.080 you know, like the kind of their abuse of their own power and their self-importance,

00:52:48.580 that kind of thing.

00:52:49.500 And he was punching up, which is OK.

00:52:52.320 What Kimmel did last night was he tried to mock people's weaknesses and like things that

00:52:58.260 they had genuinely fought hard to overcome, like he did to Robert Downey Jr., who wound up

00:53:04.080 being a favorite of the night.

00:53:05.020 His acceptance speech, I thought was great.

00:53:06.600 He thanked his terrible childhood.

00:53:08.100 That was a great line.

00:53:09.600 That's probably what all of them should start with.

00:53:12.240 But all talented people, yeah.

00:53:13.620 But before he won Best Supporting Actor for Oppenheimer, Kimmel, in his opening monologue,

00:53:18.120 decided to take a shot at him.

00:53:19.280 Everybody knows about Robert Downey Jr.'s long history of trouble with drugs and alcohol.

00:53:25.520 It's something he's, you know, no one celebrates, but he used to be given credit for overcoming

00:53:30.600 in his acceptance speech.

00:53:32.080 He made it all about his wife, who he called his veterinarian, for treating like a dog like

00:53:36.240 him.

00:53:36.640 It was sweet.

00:53:37.140 It was self-deprecating.

00:53:38.580 But this is how Jimmy Kimmel addressed him in the opening monologue.

00:53:41.940 Watch this.

00:53:44.180 And congratulations to Cillian's co-star, Robert Downey Jr., who is, this night is,

00:53:49.660 this is the highest point of Robert Downey Jr.'s long and illustrious career, but one of

00:53:59.740 the highest points.

00:54:01.800 But Robert has been a, was that too on the nose or was that a drug motion you made?

00:54:12.360 Keep it moving.

00:54:16.020 Well, look at him.

00:54:16.800 I mean, look at this guy.

00:54:17.940 He's so handsome, so talented.

00:54:19.720 He's won every award there is to win.

00:54:22.320 Is that an acceptance speech in your pocket or do you just have a very rectangular penis?

00:54:27.240 What was that?

00:54:36.020 I was just classless.

00:54:37.300 It's just classless.

00:54:38.400 Yeah.

00:54:38.680 You know, it's funny.

00:54:39.440 I worked with Downey Jr.'s wife before she was his wife when she was single and I wrote

00:54:46.640 a script with her.

00:54:47.160 She's the only enemy I ever made in Hollywood because I refused to do a rewrite on a script.

00:54:51.860 But I really liked her and she was a highly intelligent woman.

00:54:56.040 And when I read she was getting married to this guy, I made fun of her to her face.

00:55:01.480 I said, you know, like, basically, this is this, you know, there's a smart woman making

00:55:04.920 a bad choice.

00:55:06.440 And instead, she proved me totally wrong.

00:55:08.720 She went out and she really gave that guy, turned that guy around.

00:55:11.820 I mean, he walked around with her picture on his phone to keep himself from going back

00:55:16.900 to the drugs.

00:55:17.480 And you know how bad those habits can be, how they can destroy people.

00:55:20.780 And somehow she brought him out of it.

00:55:23.340 And so she deserves all the credit he gives her.

00:55:25.980 And even though she was angry at me for our relationship, I salute her because she really

00:55:30.760 did turn that guy around.

00:55:32.560 That's sweet.

00:55:33.420 I don't like, why would you bring up, you know, the guy's drug use on his big night,

00:55:37.140 rub his nose in it, repeatedly double down on it, make a comment about his penis?

00:55:41.500 Like, what's, what is, what's that about?

00:55:43.680 It was like he was trying to embarrass him and it was a failure.

00:55:47.560 So thumbs down on the whole thing.

00:55:49.420 Um, okay.

00:55:51.280 I w I've got to get this in.

00:55:52.440 It's a turn, but over the weekend, as we went into the early part of the weekend, the big

00:55:57.360 news was, and we've got to get to it.

00:55:59.260 Joe Biden, speaking of a state of the union was asked about the fact that in that state

00:56:04.320 of the union, when Marjorie Taylor green said, say her name about Lake and Riley, the 22 year

00:56:09.380 old student who was murdered while jogging on the campus of the university of Georgia,

00:56:13.500 uh, by an illegal, she said, you know, he was killed by an, she was killed by an illegal

00:56:18.420 and Joe Biden used that term and illegal.

00:56:20.580 She was killed by an illegal.

00:56:22.100 Well, he finally, I guess realized he had to do a mea culpa about that.

00:56:29.540 Listen to this Jonathan Capehart again of MSNBC.

00:56:33.360 Those people have lost their minds.

00:56:34.680 Who would watch this program to actually subject your brain to this just insanity, but people

00:56:41.040 do it.

00:56:41.760 Jonathan Capehart is part of that same team and watch this exchange.

00:56:44.820 Mr. President is great to see you again.

00:56:49.480 Thank you for doing this.

00:56:50.940 So that was one hell of a speech you gave Thursday night.

00:56:53.860 I'm going to touch on three specific areas there.

00:56:56.100 The first one being, you know, I noticed the look of surprise on your face when you walked

00:56:59.980 into the chamber and you saw Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor green.

00:57:03.520 Um, it was priceless.

00:57:05.000 You feigned shock at seeing her, but during your response to her heckling of you, you use

00:57:11.160 the word illegal when talking about the man who allegedly killed, um, Lincoln Riley.

00:57:16.840 An undocumented person.

00:57:18.700 And I shouldn't have used illegal.

00:57:20.040 I should have, it's undocumented.

00:57:21.300 And look, when I spoke about the difference between Trump and me, one of the things I talked

00:57:25.700 about in the border was that his, the way he talks about vermin, the way he talks about

00:57:29.940 these people polluting the blood.

00:57:31.780 I talked about what I'm not going to do, what I won't do.

00:57:34.560 I'm not going to treat any, any, any of these people with disrespect.

00:57:39.020 Look, they built the country.

00:57:40.040 The reason our economy is growing, we have to control the border and more orderly slow,

00:57:45.160 but I don't share his view at all.

00:57:48.100 So you, you regret using that word.

00:57:49.980 Yes.

00:57:51.920 Mike, they built this country.

00:57:54.300 They did gang members like Jose Aubera who murdered Lake and Riley, apparently for fun.

00:57:59.920 They, this is the levels of disrespect and disinformation in that answer.

00:58:05.480 Andrew, what do you make of it?

00:58:06.780 Well, you know, this is, this is kind of the one thing in this administration that I, I

00:58:12.960 do think is hitting people in the face when, when New York is the head of Homeland Security

00:58:17.420 gets up. And in that pro faced way he has, he says, well, the border is secure. And if it's

00:58:22.700 not secure, it's the Republicans fault. And we're doing everything he can. He talks in that kind of

00:58:26.300 blank, double talk bureaucraties. And we see them, they can't hide them. They're coming across the

00:58:32.880 border. All the cities that declare themselves sanctuary cities are now getting flooded with

00:58:37.800 them and sort of saying, I'm not sure the sanctuary was such a great idea. And the Democrats are just

00:58:42.300 pouring money into New York, but there's not enough money to actually take care of this

00:58:47.020 incredible invasion that Biden has let have, has allowed to happen. Whereas in the last month of

00:58:53.620 the Trump administration, I think something like 17 illegals were released into the country. And now

00:58:58.520 it's thousands upon thousands upon thousands.

00:59:01.340 And now he's worried about hurting their feelings.

00:59:03.260 He's worried about hurting their feelings.

00:59:04.360 He's worried about hurting the feelings of a murderer, of a murderer. I mean, not, it's not just,

00:59:07.760 it's not just hurting the feelings of illegals, some of whom may be decent people running away

00:59:12.620 from bad things. He's, he's hurting the feeling of a murderer and apologizing to him on air.

00:59:18.140 Can't even get the woman's name, right. The victim's name, right. When he said,

00:59:21.620 which her mother spoke out about this weekend saying she was offended. She's like, she can't,

00:59:25.360 she said, I have, I have it here, but her mom said, Biden doesn't even know my child's name.

00:59:29.900 If you're going to say her name when forced to do so, at least say it the right way,

00:59:35.060 say the right name. And she appeared with Trump while Biden was over there, apologizing to her

00:59:40.040 murderer for referring to him as an illegal. If Trump, if team Trump doesn't make that a split

00:59:46.180 screen ad within the next 24 hours, they don't know what they're doing.

00:59:50.740 You know, Ben Shapiro has said this, that Trump is basically running a very moderate campaign.

00:59:56.000 He's being helped by the fact that the news media won't cover him. They won't put him on the air.

00:59:59.740 So we're not seeing him as being kept off social media. So we're not hearing his,

01:00:03.000 his kooky rants. But every time I see him, you know, I was going to say this about the state of

01:00:07.240 the union. They, they concentrated on Brit because they could take her out, but Trump gave a response.

01:00:12.480 It was really good. And at this point, at this point, everything that Donald Trump has said

01:00:17.680 about immigration, even though he puts things in this blunt, sometimes insensitive way,

01:00:22.220 everything he said has turned out to be true. They're not sending their best. They are sending

01:00:26.620 criminals. It is allowing people to get into the country who should not be in the country.

01:00:30.920 And this sensitivity to criminals that we get from the Soros prosecutors and from Joe Biden,

01:00:36.260 the sensitivity to people who commit crimes. You can't even say it's illegal to do something

01:00:40.680 illegal. It masks this complete insensitivity to the victims of those crimes, which pretty soon is

01:00:48.600 going to be a lot of us because some of the people coming in are clearly hooked to terrorist

01:00:52.440 organizations. So eventually the victims are going to be all of us. And I don't even understand

01:00:58.980 how long, I don't know how long people are going to tolerate this sensitivity toward the hurt feelings

01:01:05.640 of criminals that masks a complete insensitivity, a coldness to the pain and suffering that is being

01:01:13.640 caused to innocent people by these, by murders, by crime, by rampant crime, by shutting down businesses

01:01:20.540 with stealing. Eventually you start to say like, don't normal people deserve some kind of sensitivity?

01:01:26.580 Don't normal people who pay the taxes, who keep the world running, don't they deserve some kindness

01:01:31.500 too? That's exactly right. I didn't see his apology for calling Lincoln Riley Lincoln. I didn't see

01:01:38.220 that, but he wants to apologize and take back calling this alleged gang member per the New York

01:01:43.420 Post. Guy had been here illegally arrested for endangering the welfare of a child. That guy who

01:01:49.520 wound up taking the life of a 22 year old young woman who just wanted to help people as a nurse,

01:01:53.520 he gets an apology. It's bass-ackwards, as they say. Andrew Klavan, always a pleasure,

01:01:59.380 my friend. Great to see you. Great to see you, Megan. Thanks.

01:02:02.760 All right. When we come back, Maureen Callahan. I have so much I want to talk to her about. I do

01:02:07.400 want to get her take on Stephanopoulos, but I also have got to get into what the hell happened with

01:02:13.080 the Kate Middleton photo with the three kids. Remember we talked about this on Friday? Well,

01:02:17.060 we were on point because they put out this photo, you saw it, of her and the kids. All these news

01:02:22.620 agencies pulled it, saying it was manipulated. We're going to get into it. Stand by.

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01:03:29.460 Now we're joined by Daily Mail columnist Maureen Callahan on so much that I want to get to. Maureen,

01:03:36.060 I cannot wait to talk about Kate Middleton, but we've got to start with the harder news. And that

01:03:40.820 is because I know, I mean, you're always fierce when it comes to women. You are an advocate for

01:03:46.180 women, not in an annoying, preachy way, but you'll go against the grain even when it might not get you

01:03:52.540 the required clicks. And I've seen this in you many, many times. And yet what we have today

01:03:59.180 is George Stephanopoulos of all people pretending he is our champion as he attacks an actual rape

01:04:08.160 survivor for having the nerve to endorse Donald Trump without pointing out to the audience

01:04:14.080 that both of the men running for president right now have been accused of rape. Both of them that

01:04:21.240 Trump was essentially found guilty of a digital rape, which the jury said was sexual assault.

01:04:26.300 And that's exactly what Tara Reid accused Joe Biden of doing to her, not to mention all the other

01:04:31.560 women who are involved in both of these guys. But that's where we are. And ABC lets him get away

01:04:37.600 with it, as do the other media now applauding him for that segment. What do you make of it?

01:04:43.880 Oh, my God. Where to begin, Megan? Where to begin? George Stephanopoulos, who, as you noted,

01:04:50.760 spearheaded the war room, which became a famous documentary. He and James Carville and all of

01:04:57.260 Clinton's lieutenants set about smearing the reputations of every single woman. And lo,

01:05:04.500 there were many who came forward to say that they had been on the receiving end of either unwelcome

01:05:12.340 sexual advances from Bill Clinton, or in the case of Juanita Broderick, actual rape. And Juanita

01:05:19.840 Broderick's story has always, always, always stuck with me. I found her incredibly believable.

01:05:25.860 And it was one detail that I believe it was a trauma room nurse came forward and said,

01:05:32.300 this is how you know this woman is telling the truth. She spoke about, during the alleged assault,

01:05:40.220 Bill Clinton biting her lower lip to keep her from struggling. And that this is actually something

01:05:48.280 that rapists do. And it was such a, such a, such an evocative detail, something very difficult to make

01:05:57.660 up, that I just, I've always believed her. And then on top of that, what they did to Monica Lewinsky,

01:06:07.380 you know, the, the campaign, the sort of underground campaign that Clinton's lieutenants ran,

01:06:13.320 which included, by the way, the full, uh, ascent and cooperation of Hillary was called the nuts and

01:06:20.280 sluts attack. Nuts and sluts. And so the left, and I, I remember, you know, I don't know if back,

01:06:30.380 if you do, but the way the New York times would cover this stuff, you know, how many Clinton,

01:06:36.500 uh, apologists, people who had been in his corner from the Arkansas days wound up going to prison for

01:06:43.380 this guy. You know, it also reminds me of, um, the way the media for months completely disregarded

01:06:51.320 real boots on the ground reporting that the national inquirer was doing about John Edwards,

01:06:57.460 cheating on his dying wife and getting his mistress pregnant. And the news media just completely refused

01:07:04.900 to cover it until it became like, you could not ignore it anymore. And so for George Stephanopoulos

01:07:11.080 to sit in this news chair as part of ABC news, as their figurehead, a guy who went after defenseless

01:07:19.540 women who had no money, no power, no resources to say that they were making it up or that they were

01:07:26.240 looking for a money grab that they were in the words of James Carville trailer trash is astonishing to

01:07:34.260 me. And secondly, I would say no man should ever be interviewing a rape survivor about

01:07:40.620 the parameters of what she's allowed to feel or how she's allowed to vote.

01:07:47.000 Right. The insensitivity of that exchange is infuriating. He started it by playing a clip of her

01:07:55.460 talking about her rape when she was 16 and then immediately pivoted to attacking her with it.

01:08:02.800 No one is writing an article about that today. But it's outrageous that he's been allowed to get

01:08:10.680 away with this. And to the contrary, the left wing media is celebrating him and painting him as a

01:08:17.360 defender of women who are raped because of E. Jean Carroll, like saying, oh, well, you know,

01:08:25.300 he pushed back that the judge said he had raped, Trump had raped her when Mace said, actually,

01:08:31.760 the jury only only concluded a sexual assault, completely ignoring the fact that Mace herself

01:08:35.820 is a rape victim. And that was shoved down her throat before he even kicked it off.

01:08:40.600 Oh, he completely had an agenda. And, you know, I'm sure she was like she was she was lured onto the

01:08:46.320 show with, you know, the false promise of telling her side of the story. It you know, it's all it's

01:08:52.280 also circumstantial with with these major figures on the left. It reminds me of Rachel Maddow laughing

01:09:00.800 with E. Jean Carroll, who was flanked by her two female lawyers who looked increasingly uncomfortable

01:09:06.920 as the conversation went on laughing about. Yes, I had such such great ideas for all the good I'm

01:09:16.660 going to do with this money. First thing, Rachel, you and I are going to go shopping. Rachel, what

01:09:22.480 do you want? Penthouse? It's yours, Rachel. Penthouse and France. You want France? You want to go fishing

01:09:29.800 in France? Although if if me fishing in France could do something for women's rights, I would take the

01:09:35.560 you know, I would obviously take one for the team. Stomach journey, Maureen. Women's rights. These

01:09:43.160 are women standing up for women's rights and laughing at what should be a really serious conversation

01:09:51.820 about where we're at. You know, I just I don't I don't understand. I don't understand how something

01:09:59.100 that should be completely apolitical, you know, that we still live in a world where girls and women

01:10:05.160 have to fear this stuff and then fear the way that they're going to be received, whether in an

01:10:13.160 actual criminal court, a court of public opinion. You know, it makes me think I know we're probably

01:10:20.340 going to touch on the Oscars a little bit, I hope. But, you know, for so many years, the industry

01:10:25.900 turning a complete blind eye while they all knew what Harvey Weinstein was up to, you know, and now

01:10:32.560 they're just like twisting themselves into pretzels to celebrate Barbie, you know, as this like shining

01:10:40.940 feminist achievement. I think to differ. But it's all it's just all hypocrisy. It's all self-serving

01:10:49.240 hypocrisy. George Stephanopoulos did not do that interview in an effort to get at a larger truth or

01:10:56.560 in an effort to promote the cause of women's rights and hear what sexual assault survivors

01:11:02.620 have to say. He did that interview to make himself look good. And he thinks he made himself look good.

01:11:10.840 And that's what's so screwed up about the whole thing. Here's the other thing on this same front.

01:11:18.900 Today and over the weekend, Katie Britt, who gave what I openly said was a disastrous response to that

01:11:24.840 State of the Union. I mean, the words, I guess, were fine, but the affectation was just too much.

01:11:31.440 But now she got hit over the weekend because one of the stories she brought up about this woman who

01:11:37.200 had been raped over and over by the drug cartels, and this should not happen in America. We would be

01:11:43.240 upset if this happened in a third world country. It turns out this story has been told by Katie Britt

01:11:48.000 before, and it didn't happen in America. It happened in Mexico. And this woman has now grown

01:11:55.440 and told her the story. And she definitely implied in her remarks that this was happening in our

01:12:01.180 country, current, or at least in the not too distant past. And she's been fact-checked on this.

01:12:07.720 So she admits, because she has to, that this actually happened years ago. And she met this woman. She was

01:12:12.320 trying to contrast when she got into office versus when Biden got into office. He undid all the

01:12:17.160 immigration controls. She actually went down to the border, tried to see what was going on and

01:12:20.680 learned the story. She was inartful about it to give her the benefit of the doubt. Okay. But that

01:12:24.660 brings me to the AP does a fact check on her headline is Katie Britt used decades old example of rapes in

01:12:32.100 Mexico as Republican attack on Biden border policy. And they pointed out all the stuff I just,

01:12:37.400 I just told you about, and yet, you know what they didn't do in this piece, Maureen is point out that

01:12:44.660 while that story was described in a way that wasn't spot on, there are rapes happening every day in

01:12:52.560 America and along the route to America because of the promise of what they'll get when they get here,

01:12:58.160 including free hotel rooms and, you know, free food cards and probably jobs soon on the government

01:13:04.340 dime. And the left doesn't seem to much care about any of them. And so the AP, while it really

01:13:10.840 wants to fact check Katie Britt on that story, chooses not to mention anything. We went back and

01:13:15.860 checked it twice about how ubiquitous the rape and sexual assault problem is of these women trying to

01:13:23.420 get across the Southern border by these drug cartels and their, and the coyotes and those who enabled

01:13:27.100 them. And in response to their correction of Katie Britt, you've got people like Katie Couric

01:13:35.040 saying to the AP, thank you for reporting this. Thank you. She's very grateful that they've fact

01:13:42.880 checked Katie Britt on her one story about this one woman not actually happening in America. No one

01:13:50.320 wants to talk about the fact that many women are being raped all the time down by the Southern border

01:13:56.040 because of these lax border policies. Okay. There's so much to unpack here. I love this. First

01:14:01.940 of all, Katie Couric, that great champion of women, that great fellow traveler of sisterhood who wrote

01:14:09.900 in her memoir, how she actively undermined female colleagues that she perceived to be a threat,

01:14:17.460 Ashley Banfield among them. And she wasn't that sorry. It was the cost of doing business back in the

01:14:22.440 day. What have you, you know, great. Okay. Secondly, there are very few outlets that will report exactly

01:14:31.780 about what you are talking about here. The soap, what they call rape trees, which are basically

01:14:39.300 rapists hang the undergarments of their victims as these kinds of trophies. And they're, they're,

01:14:47.720 they're all over the Southern border. Nobody will talk about this. I don't understand the hypocrisy of

01:14:54.020 the left here at all. I mean, to that earlier clip that you played of Jonathan Capehart and President

01:15:01.000 Biden, you know, semantically tearing apart whether they should have called the alleged murderer of

01:15:07.720 that poor woman, an illegal or an undocumented person. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that like

01:15:16.780 is galvanizing people who never thought for a second, they would vote for Donald Trump.

01:15:21.960 Take a, take a beat and reconsider. Um, it also reminds me, I don't know if you happen to see

01:15:28.080 this, but there was this incredible piece in the time, the New York times over the weekend

01:15:32.240 about the number of single Chinese men who are entering the United States illegally through the

01:15:41.120 Southern border. And without so much as raising a question as to why what's going on here, this was

01:15:49.760 an entire piece about how welcoming the community in Chinatown is and how they're trying to get them

01:15:55.820 jobs and food vouchers and all of this stuff. I mean, it's an alternate universe going on.

01:16:01.340 And Biden is pivoting now a little bit to the border as he did in the state of the union,

01:16:08.220 because his polls are so disastrous that he has no choice. Everybody knows his heart isn't in this.

01:16:17.060 You know, in New York, we see this all the time. An acquaintance of mine at a family event told me

01:16:25.580 about her son getting kicked out of school. The entire, the entire school was being taken over

01:16:32.440 by migrants in Brooklyn because a storm was coming. And these children who already lost so much,

01:16:40.300 not just educationally, but emotionally and socially from COVID lockdowns had to sacrifice the school,

01:16:47.980 a private Catholic school that these parents pay tuition for, for undocumented migrants because

01:16:55.460 the storm was coming. People are not. What we really, what we really need to worry about is

01:16:59.720 what we call them. I mean, like him trying to make sure we, we're correctly identifying them as

01:17:04.660 undocumented instead of illegal is like trying to say Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't a cannibal. He was just

01:17:11.880 really hungry. It's completely, you're missing the point. I hate to tell you, but you're really

01:17:19.800 missing the point. All right. We've got to go onto these other stories because they're so good.

01:17:23.720 Let's talk about Kate Middleton. Unbelievable. So she had this surgery. They said she was going

01:17:29.620 to be in the hospital for four weeks. We were talking on Friday about what the hell could keep

01:17:34.620 somebody in the hospital for four weeks. Some speculated it could be, this is pure speculation,

01:17:38.920 Crohn's disease disease, which sometimes requires resection of part of the intestine. You could

01:17:43.960 potentially have a colostomy bag. This is pure speculation, but that's, that's how severe it would

01:17:49.180 have to be to keep one in the hospital that length of time. We just don't know. They're not,

01:17:53.240 they're all they're saying was abdominal surgery and that it wasn't cancer related. Okay. But this

01:17:57.600 weekend there was a frenzy over the internet after Kate Middleton, who's only been seen once in a drive

01:18:03.020 by car situation, not her body, not her walking released the first photo of herself and her children

01:18:09.320 in months on the British mother's day, only to have it almost instantly quote killed by the major photo

01:18:16.500 agencies around the world. Maureen over quote manipulation and inconsistencies found with the

01:18:22.960 image. A series of editing errors were found within the photo by sleuths online and by photography

01:18:29.080 professionals, uh, to the point where they were all saying, look at the many things that she's

01:18:33.420 changed or somebody has changed. Like the mock-ups you can see if people do the circles online to show

01:18:36.880 you the number of things that are fishy and that show like blurring where there shouldn't be blurring

01:18:41.420 an arm or a finger looking weird, um, to the point where today Kate Middleton had to reply herself

01:18:47.780 and do what they're never supposed to do, which is explain. And she said, she was the one who quote

01:18:54.460 conducted an experiment with editing. She says like many photographers do, and she's sorry for any

01:19:01.680 confusion, but that's all she said. Now there are more questions than answers about the princess of

01:19:07.320 Wales, her health and what's happening here. What do you make of it, Maureen?

01:19:12.000 This is all feeling really Hitchcockian to me. Like it's feeling like 30s film noir with a heroine

01:19:21.140 in peril. And we can't quite figure out what's going on. Um, these are such a, such a series of

01:19:28.600 unforced errors. I feel on the part of Kensington palace, um, for her to release this photo, which

01:19:38.360 nobody believes she just did it unilaterally. You know, this was something that was thought about

01:19:44.320 and debated and strategized. And then to have all these global news agencies say, we have to pull

01:19:51.380 this picture. It's a fake. And then to have her post an apology, uh, taking the fall for it. When

01:20:01.360 she, if she's this sick, doesn't she just get to be this sick? I mean, that's my question.

01:20:07.860 Nobody has as much built up goodwill and is pretty non-controversial as Kate Middleton is. Um,

01:20:16.080 if anybody should have taken the fall, it should have been Prince William who was credited as the

01:20:20.760 photographer, whether Kate did it or not, she never should have had to take that fall. Then earlier

01:20:27.760 today, she was photographed in the backseat of a car alongside Prince William, but her head was turned

01:20:37.040 away from the cameras. She's looking away. And that to me reads as like an act of defiance. Like now

01:20:45.100 you're going to pro you're going to, you're going to make me, you know, present myself in public again,

01:20:50.940 to make up for this epic failure of public relations. And I refuse to do it. Um, it makes

01:21:00.100 you wonder who their advisors are. And because all of these things are completely of their own making.

01:21:08.640 And, uh, with each, with each misstep, it's getting worse and worse. And it's only fueling

01:21:14.660 all these conspiracy theories that they're actually trying to extinguish. You know, what is really wrong

01:21:22.200 with Kate? Is she, is, is this actually her? Is she divorcing him? Has she had a breakdown? Is she in

01:21:29.900 a wheelchair? The most extreme, is she even alive? Are we looking at body doubles? Like this is very

01:21:39.140 strange. It's verging on camp. I kind of can't wait to see what they do next, but what I know.

01:21:46.240 I'll, I'll show you something that they just, um, posted this morning. I don't know. My team will

01:21:50.900 tell me where we got this from. Um, but there's speculation that this photo of her is actually a

01:21:58.020 from her British Vogue cover. Look at this, Maureen. Oh, wow. Look at that. Oh, wow. It looks,

01:22:09.140 it looks identical. It looks exactly like the cover of British Vogue. And the question is why,

01:22:16.780 why can't Kate Middleton just sit down and take a photo with her three children?

01:22:21.520 That's been the question for, for, for all of these weeks, you know, if she's doing as well as

01:22:30.840 they say that she's doing, if it's not that big of a deal, but a big enough deal that she'll be

01:22:35.800 out of the public eye until at least after Easter. And then there was also that mistake they made where

01:22:41.280 she, it was announced she was going to appear at the Trooping of the Color. And then Kensington Palace

01:22:46.180 said, absolutely not. And that's June 8th, I believe, which is well after Easter. Um, it,

01:22:53.200 it does make one wonder why can't she simply sit for a still photograph in an era of, you know,

01:23:01.480 soft focus retouching. Everybody's got those filters on their phones. Why not?

01:23:08.060 Totally. You can, you can sit, you can sit and have a photograph with your children. I mean,

01:23:13.640 most of us, you know, you can do it even when you look, you're absolute worst. Like when you just

01:23:17.760 had nine months of pregnancy weight on you and have the new baby and you have, you can do it.

01:23:21.640 Why, why wouldn't she do it? What's the problem? I don't know what, what they're trying to cover up.

01:23:26.380 That's my real question is like, all of this is toward what end? What's wrong with her that she

01:23:31.040 can't be on camera, even for a photo with her children, like hiding her, you know, hiding her body.

01:23:36.820 You know, like, why couldn't, why, why would it have to be photoshopped in? Like, it looks to me

01:23:42.860 like maybe the four of them weren't even there. Maybe she wasn't there and they photoshopped her

01:23:47.220 in. I don't know what happened, but it is a five alarm fire when all the news agencies say,

01:23:51.880 don't run this. It was a hard stop put on the airing of this photograph by the AP Reuters down,

01:23:58.340 all of them, all of them down the list to the point where the palace had no choice,

01:24:01.420 but to admit it. And she herself, as you point out, fell on the sword. Sadly, there's going to

01:24:08.140 be more on that. Okay. Wait, it was Ruby Naldritt of the Daily Mirror who put that together. Well

01:24:14.260 done, Ruby. That was very interesting to see. Okay. I do want to talk about the Oscars and I know you

01:24:18.980 do too. Did you watch and what was your impression? I watched it in real time, which is a specific form

01:24:29.180 of agony. Um, you know, I was thinking about this. This is, this is the entertainment industry's

01:24:37.060 annual tribute to itself, right? Yes. How is it the entertainment industry cannot make this broadcast

01:24:43.980 entertaining? Uh, you know, it, it, it, it's a slog to get through the, um, Jimmy Kimmel just,

01:24:52.240 he was issuing these sort of reheated jokes from earlier ceremonies that never worked in the first

01:24:59.840 place. Like his Yorgos quip was like an Oprah Uma kind of thing. And then sort of happy, like, oh,

01:25:06.800 this thing is going to go so long. It's already over. We're only five minutes in every host says that

01:25:11.780 every year. Um, the Barbie stuff was just killing me. It was killing me. And if I had to hear one more

01:25:20.240 time than America Ferrara's soliloquy and Barbie about how hard it is to be a woman, just the

01:25:27.140 thumbnail. If a man does it, he's assertive. If a woman does it, she's a bitch, you know, gold

01:25:31.780 plated since the seventies. We get it is a soliloquy on par with like to be or not to be, I'm going to

01:25:38.340 throw something. This movie is a mess. It was an infomercial for Mattel. Um, and then we had just

01:25:46.020 the self-regard of these actors coming up and like giving each other awards and, you know, talking as

01:25:51.120 if they've cured cancer. Emma Jones, completely hysterical reaction. I love you. I love you so much

01:25:58.300 because you say exactly the things that I've been thinking and I need somebody to say, please keep

01:26:02.600 going. Well, just to say like, she's gotten hard in the paint for the past nine months campaigning for

01:26:08.540 this award. And then she confesses when she's on stage that her own director had to talk her down

01:26:15.240 the night before, because she was fretting what would happen if she won because it was that likely.

01:26:21.040 And then she gets up there and she's crying and she can't pull it together to just say thank you

01:26:27.240 and have a proportionate response. You know, my favorite was watching Annette Bening sitting there

01:26:32.560 looking just like completely unimpressed and like over it and ready to go home. Um, and then on a,

01:26:39.180 on a more serious note, I really wanted to just hit this with you because I don't know if you've had

01:26:44.260 the chance to see the zone of interest. Um, the job, but I saw that man's disgraceful acceptance speech.

01:26:52.540 And it was a disgrace to the movie he made because that movie is a masterpiece. And I

01:26:57.020 encourage it up. I don't know if the audience knows, but they may not know what we're talking about.

01:27:00.520 Zone of interest. Uh, it's a Holocaust movie. It's a Holocaust film and it's unlike anyone that

01:27:06.480 you have ever seen before. It is, it is brilliant. Um, but the director, Jonathan Glazer, who is

01:27:13.060 himself Jewish in accepting his well-earned reward, got up there and said that he renounced his own

01:27:21.140 Judaism because of October 7th. There was nary a word issued about October 7th on the, that stage,

01:27:30.320 even when they wheeled out like Steven Spielberg on the 30th anniversary of Schindler's list,

01:27:35.280 we cannot talk about what's happening in Israel right now. We can only talk about what's happening

01:27:39.900 in Gaza and the ceremony itself, the broadcast, which was supposed to start at seven big, big,

01:27:48.080 big, you know, deal that they had finally bumped this thing up an hour. So people on the East coast

01:27:53.020 aren't like hung over the next morning. It started late, but they didn't say why. And it started late

01:27:59.600 because pro-Palestinian protesters had blocked the route to the award ceremony, but they couldn't

01:28:07.840 even acknowledge that. It was just wild. Here's this guy turning, who made a movie about the Holocaust,

01:28:14.640 who won this inner best international film for his movie about the Holocaust, who is Jewish

01:28:18.900 and his acceptance speech in which he tears on Jews in Israel. Watch.

01:28:26.140 Our film shows where dehumanization leads at its worst. It shaped all of our past and present.

01:28:33.060 Right now, we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being

01:28:36.900 hijacked by an occupation, which has led to conflict for so many innocent people.

01:28:41.080 Whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack on Gaza,

01:28:54.360 all the victims of this dehumanization. How do we resist?

01:28:57.880 He refutes his Jewishness. The Holocaust has been hijacked by what's happening in Gaza. I don't even

01:29:11.240 understand it, but I know enough to be offended. I know enough to be insulted by what he's saying.

01:29:17.700 How about the hostages that are still being held by Hamas? You know, this is the thing that

01:29:25.220 my big takeaway from that evening. Donald Trump is an extinction-level event. He is a threat to

01:29:34.540 humanity who must be vanquished at all costs. But Hamas is just kind of misunderstood. They need

01:29:42.060 better branding. So allow Hollywood to do that for them. It's the strangest thing. I mean,

01:29:47.960 the zone of interest is- Pro tip. Pro tip. When Mehdi Hassan is praising your acceptance speech

01:29:52.360 for your Holocaust film, you're doing it wrong. Something's gone very, very, very wrong there.

01:29:58.420 I love what you said about Emma Stone. When she won, my team will back me up. I texted my team

01:30:04.640 and I said, if I were ever to win an award, please remind me to just get up there and say the words,

01:30:12.200 thank you, and then sit down and not pretend that it is like winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

01:30:17.340 Like, their self-congratulatory nature. I mean, it's fine. The arts play a part in our lives and

01:30:26.200 do bring some enjoyment to us. But to pretend like she had just been awarded the Academy Award for

01:30:32.960 curing cancer, right, with the tears. I know. I mean, I can't believe. I love the movies. I love pop

01:30:41.340 culture. And this is, I think, why I'm really hard on it in some ways, because there's no need for that

01:30:48.100 kind of hysteria. Zero. I mean, I loved Robert Downey Jr.'s speech in which he opened by thanking

01:30:54.400 his terrible childhood. That was so noteperfect. Everybody knows this guy's been through it and

01:31:02.340 everybody was rooting for him. And he did pretty much say thank you. I mean, he was a little self-important

01:31:08.080 by saying, you know, everything they make matters. Not everything they make matters. It doesn't have

01:31:12.740 to, you know? But yeah, the Emma Stone, there's always one every year. There's always one. I know.

01:31:19.520 It's too much. The best speech ever was the Joe Pesci speech in which he literally just got up there.

01:31:25.520 And I think it was for Goodfellas, for Best Supporting Actor. And I think all he said was,

01:31:29.160 thank you. It's my honor. And sat down. It was my privilege. Thank you.

01:31:34.040 Right on. Joe Pesci. Of course, his best movie wasn't Goodfellas. It was My Cousin Vinny. That's

01:31:42.720 a fact. It's just well-known, right? It's well-known. It's accepted. Okay. The media and,

01:31:48.820 you know, fawning over celebrities, they fawn over themselves and some of their coverage in the media

01:31:53.040 is fawning as well. And this brings me to a New York Times piece on Kate Winslet, which I know is on

01:32:00.120 your radar. Explain why. Oh, my God. I'm so happy you brought this up. I almost forgot because so

01:32:06.520 much has been happening. So I read this Kate Winslet profile in the New York Times magazine,

01:32:12.480 which even for the New York Times is over the top in its sort of obsequious, you know, veneration of

01:32:23.180 who, listen, good actor, like her stuff. She's an actress. In this piece, we learn that Kate Winslet,

01:32:31.960 probably thanks to her Titanic days, can hold her breath for seven and a half minutes straight

01:32:37.760 underwater. Navy SEAL, you may not know, can only make it to three. So this is what just one assertion

01:32:46.260 that this like hero worshiping, you know, interviewer is, is, uh, just sort of, let me

01:32:51.780 read part of it. Let me read part of it just to back you up. They start off by saying Winslet is

01:32:55.740 not precious or easily rattled. Unset over the years, she has broken a toe, suffered hypothermia

01:33:00.080 and fainted, but very little slows her down when she's shooting. She's not a fan of a lunch break

01:33:04.680 goes on about how she's eminently relatable and then says it was for avatar allegedly that she,

01:33:10.340 after considerable training, managed to hold her breath underwater for an astonishing

01:33:13.500 seven minutes and 15 seconds, and then points out some Navy SEALs never break three minutes.

01:33:19.140 Paging Rob O'Neill, I would like a fact check on whether that's possible, but keep going.

01:33:24.560 Yes. Great point. I would like a fact check too. My favorite part of the interview.

01:33:30.040 She asks, she asks what Ozempic is. She says, what is Ozempic? Kate Winslet says, what is Ozempic?

01:33:38.280 And this dummy interviewer is like, oh, you've never heard of Ozempic. It would be like,

01:33:43.500 me asking me, like, what does Oxygen do? Explain it to me. I don't get it. She's in Hollywood.

01:33:49.600 She's spent the past two decades bitching about how her, her weight is always a topic of conversation

01:33:55.380 with casting directors, how unfair it is. She's so brave. She's doing her L'Oreal ads without

01:34:01.420 airbrushing, you know, but please. Okay. Whatever. She did Mare of East Town.

01:34:06.120 She admits to having an eating disorder.

01:34:09.140 Yeah. She says she's having an eating disorder, but she's never heard of Ozempic. And then when

01:34:13.520 the interviewer explains what it is, she says, that's horrible. Let's eat some more stuff and

01:34:19.560 start shoving her face. The whole thing is like the nth degree. I encourage everyone to read it.

01:34:26.580 It's the, it's the biggest laugh you'll have all week. I promise.

01:34:29.040 And do you, is there any chance I actually read it thinking, is there any chance this New York

01:34:32.740 Times writer, Susan Dominus, um, is in on it? Like, is there any chance she's espousing like these

01:34:40.360 absurdities to, you know, show us how ridiculous this is?

01:34:46.800 I think you're more generous than I am. And I don't think she is in on it. And I'll tell you why.

01:34:52.800 Kate Winslet, a multi multi-millionaire who you might not know is also married to a relative

01:34:58.900 of Richard Branson, who in the piece is only called by his first name, Ned, but Megan, this

01:35:05.120 is a middle-aged man who goes by the name Ned rock and roll. Uh, so Kate Winslet makes this

01:35:11.800 poor woman conduct this three hour long interview in an uninsulated beach shack on the ocean.

01:35:19.320 Like you can picture the wind whipping through these wooden slats and the, and the, and the

01:35:25.000 interviewer writes in the piece, she's freezing and she can't understand why Kate Winslet isn't,

01:35:29.140 but like, it's, it seemed like a weird sort of test. Like how much, how much would this woman put

01:35:35.240 up with because she's spending time with a famous, it was so strange and weird and, uh, just, just

01:35:43.020 like peak New York times. Oh gosh. It does make me look a little differently at Kate Winslet who

01:35:49.960 previously I liked, and I still like her acting, but it does, you know, I've, I've, I've said many

01:35:55.300 times and I, I've, it's what came to mind when I heard this, the seven foot center doesn't tell you

01:35:59.820 how tall he is. And I don't think if you're super tough, you know, you don't sit there telling the

01:36:05.360 New York times how tough you are and you don't take lunch breaks and you've never said you're cold

01:36:09.600 and sit out here in this ice shack and listen to me. I can go under this water at any point for

01:36:14.420 seven minutes and 15 seconds more than the Navy sea. Like that, that doesn't sound right, but, um,

01:36:20.720 we'll see. Maybe Kate's people will, will quietly get the word out that it was Susan's doing and not

01:36:26.800 Kate's that all this stuff appeared. Maureen, always a pleasure. God, I love talking to you.

01:36:30.980 Thanks for being here. Likewise, Megan. Thanks for having me.

01:36:34.580 Oh, what a show. Uh, absolutely loved every discussion and I hope you did too.

01:36:39.600 We're back tomorrow with the latest on the Trump trials. See you then.

01:36:47.860 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - March 11, 2024

George Stephanopoulos' Gross Hypocrisy, and Kate Middleton Fake Photo Controversy, with Andrew Klavan and Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 743

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