The Megyn Kelly Show - Google's Anti-White AI Image Generator, Biden's Dangerous Dog, and the NYPD Dance Team, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.120 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Thursday.

00:00:16.320 Oh, have we got a show for you today. There is so much happening.

00:00:20.620 President Biden suddenly discovers he can actually do something all on his own about the millions of migrants illegally flooding the border

00:00:26.960 after telling us that he couldn't possibly do anything unless Congress got its act together.

00:00:31.260 Plus, if you thought Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis was over, you're wrong.

00:00:36.360 And probably the best story of the day, Google's new AI refuses to acknowledge white people.

00:00:43.300 Google's racist. That's basically what you need to know. I mean, really racist.

00:00:47.960 When asked to show a picture of our founding fathers, it showed an image that appeared to be George Washington,

00:00:55.000 only he's now black. He's black now.

00:01:04.860 And we took a deep dive into the man leading the project.

00:01:08.720 We've got the perfect guests to discuss it all.

00:01:11.620 Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook together.

00:01:15.580 They are the hosts of the Ruthless program.

00:01:18.180 Now on YouTube at youtube.com slash ruthless podcast.

00:01:22.940 Smug is off today.

00:01:27.040 Guys, welcome back.

00:01:28.320 Great to have you.

00:01:29.540 Have you had any fun with the Google AI thing yet?

00:01:32.820 Oh, absolutely.

00:01:34.360 I think it was more like an office adventure for us when we first heard about this.

00:01:38.100 We were basically trying to put as many different combinations of things to see what would pop out.

00:01:42.560 I mean, it was great.

00:01:44.360 I had, we had a fun time with it.

00:01:46.780 Yeah.

00:01:46.940 You got to like test the system to try to find its weaknesses, you know?

00:01:50.880 Yes.

00:01:51.540 And there are a lot, apparently a lot of weaknesses.

00:01:53.900 Turns out that it's just all a weakness.

00:01:55.340 Yeah.

00:01:55.560 Just weaknesses.

00:01:56.840 We just, we got to look at some of these because they're just so fun.

00:01:59.440 I mean, I was reading the New York post this morning and, um, they had, uh, if you Google

00:02:04.820 Vermeer's girl with the pearl earring, you know, which is an actual painting.

00:02:08.460 It's, it's like, it's an actual painting that's been depicted for a long, long time.

00:02:13.460 It she's black now.

00:02:15.040 She's a white girl.

00:02:16.640 She went, no, according to Google, Vermeer meant to paint a young black girl.

00:02:22.420 Um, here, let's, let's go through some of those.

00:02:24.740 They're so too delicious.

00:02:26.320 I guess if you type in, it's called Gemini.

00:02:28.440 It's like their chat bot thing.

00:02:30.960 Uh, check out the Pope.

00:02:33.040 Here's what it will show.

00:02:34.160 If you say, show me images of the Pope.

00:02:35.420 Um, okay.

00:02:36.400 We've had what, like 266 pontiffs.

00:02:38.920 We've never had a black one or a female one, but here they are.

00:02:43.880 Two black people.

00:02:44.600 One's female.

00:02:46.000 Um, how about a medieval night?

00:02:48.500 Let's see what a medieval night looks like.

00:02:51.780 Oh, there we go.

00:02:53.040 Okay.

00:02:53.380 I think there's a woman there.

00:02:54.580 There's several women, long flowing hair and all people of color.

00:02:59.580 Um, a Mayo sandwich on white bread.

00:03:03.580 Let's see.

00:03:05.420 What's that?

00:03:06.640 It's just a bunch of black people eating white bread.

00:03:10.900 It looks like you've had to fun with it.

00:03:13.800 You can't just show the, the white bread.

00:03:17.700 You have to show black or people of color eating the bread.

00:03:21.260 The founding fathers has got to be the best.

00:03:23.400 The George Washington one could like, what's this one?

00:03:27.820 Uh, what are we looking at?

00:03:30.300 Oh, okay.

00:03:30.900 This is bad dancers, even bad dancers.

00:03:33.760 I mean, who doesn't know that the bad dancers are white?

00:03:36.360 Right.

00:03:37.120 That's universal guys.

00:03:38.860 I thought we were all on the same page.

00:03:40.620 That's a no brainer.

00:03:41.460 It looks like to me, uh, maybe Google put their, their DEI chief in charge of their AI program.

00:03:49.740 No, they did.

00:03:50.880 They 100% did.

00:03:52.300 So we've got, wait, let's just see.

00:03:53.740 Can we see the George Washington one?

00:03:55.080 Cause it's just too good.

00:03:56.820 I'll stand by.

00:04:01.900 Oh, there he is.

00:04:02.840 I mean, how?

00:04:03.780 He's a real person.

00:04:04.940 He lived.

00:04:06.980 There he is.

00:04:09.300 A very formidable general right there.

00:04:12.440 It's like, it's literally George Washington only with a totally different, it's not even

00:04:16.020 George Washington's face.

00:04:17.120 It's just a brand new face, but it happens to be a black man.

00:04:21.200 Um, then hold on.

00:04:22.860 Wait, wait, there was one more that I wanted to get to.

00:04:24.440 Where was it?

00:04:25.460 Uh, Oh, Nate Silver joined in and said, look what happened when I, when I told it to come

00:04:30.180 up with NHL players, what does the national hockey league player look like?

00:04:34.300 Standby.

00:04:34.820 You're going to see women.

00:04:36.800 Look, there's a woman's, is this it?

00:04:40.600 It's a, it's a woman who looks like maybe indigenous.

00:04:44.600 First of all, there are no women in the NHL.

00:04:46.960 All right.

00:04:47.660 There are none.

00:04:48.720 I don't know what happens when you ask for an NBA player.

00:04:52.240 I mean, do they just give you an NBA player or do they try to mess with that too, to put

00:04:56.040 in more indigenous people?

00:04:57.260 I don't know, but you are right about the guy because hold on.

00:05:01.920 Where's his name?

00:05:03.540 I've got to hear someplace.

00:05:04.540 I have so much information in front of me.

00:05:06.340 Oh, Jack.

00:05:08.900 Correct.

00:05:09.700 It's Polish.

00:05:10.660 Forgive me.

00:05:11.000 I used to be married to a man who was Polish.

00:05:12.480 You'd think I'd know how to pronounce this.

00:05:13.580 The last name is spelled K-R-A-W-C-Z-Y-K.

00:05:19.640 I don't think you pronounce most of these consonants.

00:05:23.340 Maybe Krozek.

00:05:24.780 Krozek.

00:05:25.400 Okay.

00:05:25.840 Jack Krozek.

00:05:26.800 Jack Krozek is the guy who's the senior director of Gemini Experiences.

00:05:31.300 Experiences.

00:05:31.880 Look at this guy.

00:05:32.520 It's an experience.

00:05:33.640 Yeah.

00:05:34.140 Let me give you a couple of bits of background on Jack.

00:05:37.160 October 21st, 2020.

00:05:40.860 I've been crying in intermittent bursts for the past 24 hours since casting my ballot.

00:05:46.560 Filling in that Biden-Harris line felt cathartic.

00:05:50.720 All right.

00:05:51.080 Here's another one.

00:05:52.500 Here's another one.

00:05:54.120 June 22nd, 2018.

00:05:59.340 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:00.040 This is America where racism is the number one value our populace seeks to uphold.

00:06:07.160 Above all.

00:06:08.360 Above all.

00:06:10.300 I've got to give you a couple others.

00:06:12.620 He praised Biden's inauguration speech.

00:06:15.020 It will go down as one of the greatest ever, acknowledging systemic racism.

00:06:20.360 Wow.

00:06:21.020 And then there's, this is my personal favorite.

00:06:25.200 This is my personal favorite.

00:06:27.580 March 28th, 2021.

00:06:31.060 16 years after graduating college, my, oh shit, I forgot to go to my last final dreams slash nightmares.

00:06:37.160 Have officially been replaced by, oh shit, I forgot to show up for my second vaccine appointment.

00:06:42.340 Can't wait to see my 2037.

00:06:45.780 That's what we're dealing with.

00:06:47.420 That's like a cartoon list of things.

00:06:49.740 I mean, you can't make that up.

00:06:51.520 This is all real.

00:06:52.560 This happened.

00:06:52.980 You know, I, I, for a while there, I sort of thought that this Google Gemini rollout was

00:06:59.600 like a goof.

00:07:00.780 Like they did all this stuff so that people would post these ridiculous images online and

00:07:06.160 show that, oh, hey, Google has something too, just like all of these other AI programs that

00:07:10.540 you can make pictures from.

00:07:12.520 But after hearing this guy's background, Mad Libs, liberal lunacy, it's like, okay, this

00:07:19.080 is, he's doing it.

00:07:19.840 He's done it deliberate.

00:07:20.960 He's done it deliberate.

00:07:22.780 Megan, did you ever punch in Megan Kelly and see what they came up with?

00:07:26.300 No, we should.

00:07:27.220 I don't, does it give you the actual image of the person?

00:07:28.960 They wouldn't give us Vermeer's girl with a pearl earring.

00:07:31.280 Will they give us Megan with the pink set?

00:07:33.740 I don't know.

00:07:34.560 I want to know where they come up with.

00:07:35.420 We're going to look at that.

00:07:35.860 I mean, if George Washington was George Washington, I want to know.

00:07:39.880 I'm curious.

00:07:40.640 I mean, I've been told by the left very, very authoritatively that it's not okay to put a

00:07:46.300 white person in blackface.

00:07:47.600 So I don't know what they think they're doing to George Washington.

00:07:50.320 Okay.

00:07:51.320 You, you have expertise on this, on this particular topic.

00:07:54.920 I've been lectured to quite a lot by the left on this.

00:07:58.660 Jack and Google included.

00:08:01.260 So wait, and then here's another one from Jack.

00:08:03.540 He wants you to know, stand by pulling it up.

00:08:05.860 White privilege is fucking real.

00:08:10.140 Don't be an asshole and act guilty about it.

00:08:12.500 Do your part in recognizing bias at all levels of egregious.

00:08:16.100 That's the guy responsible for this AI program.

00:08:20.080 And his solution to white privilege is just to eliminate all white people.

00:08:27.020 I mean, you got to laugh at it because it's just so sad.

00:08:31.180 I mean, imagine what's going on in this guy's head.

00:08:32.780 Like, how do you build a person like that?

00:08:34.740 Right.

00:08:34.960 Where it's like, they're so racially obsessed that the only thing that they can think about

00:08:40.500 in any context is like, well, let's find the oppression.

00:08:43.900 Of course it's the whites again.

00:08:45.660 How do you, how do you build a successful company putting people like that in charge?

00:08:50.280 Like, well, I don't know that he does.

00:08:52.020 Let me tell you something, Duncan.

00:08:53.280 I looked at his history.

00:08:54.220 Guess where he worked right before Google?

00:08:56.600 We work.

00:08:57.980 We work.

00:08:59.200 Right?

00:08:59.760 That's a bad sign.

00:09:00.480 He managed product too.

00:09:01.880 Then he got hired into an already successful company, Google, and started unleashing his lunacy

00:09:06.880 on them.

00:09:10.000 People just fail upwards.

00:09:11.260 You wonder, like, how much oversight is happening on programs like that.

00:09:15.740 It's like, can you imagine sitting in the C-suite one day and all of a sudden they're like,

00:09:18.980 hey, some people have taken notice of one of our products.

00:09:21.740 It turns out it's eliminated white people.

00:09:25.380 He's like the new Alyssa from Bud Light.

00:09:28.920 Remember the Alyssa lady?

00:09:29.980 Yeah.

00:09:30.240 It was like, our customers are too fratty.

00:09:31.720 That's him now.

00:09:32.900 And he should meet the same fate.

00:09:35.640 He's going to have a tough week.

00:09:37.280 I know that.

00:09:38.380 That's what he said.

00:09:39.340 He actually did.

00:09:40.100 He commented and said, we are aware that Gemini is offering inaccuracies in some historical

00:09:48.640 image generation depictions, and we are working to fix this immediately.

00:09:52.800 As part of our AI principles, we design our image generation capabilities to reflect our

00:09:57.960 global user base, and we take representation and bias seriously.

00:10:03.900 So he's not sorry.

00:10:05.580 He's like, I don't know what he's going to do differently.

00:10:08.340 Not much from the sound of it.

00:10:09.860 I guess it's just, you know, the same way they took that show Bridgerton and they made

00:10:14.000 the Queen of England black.

00:10:15.620 It's just, this is the new thing.

00:10:16.840 Now, George Washington, all the American heroes, they had to be black even if they weren't

00:10:20.080 black.

00:10:20.380 One of the things was Vikings.

00:10:22.360 Vikings.

00:10:23.060 Oh, I saw that.

00:10:24.000 Scandinavian Vikings, all black and female now.

00:10:27.960 But if you type it, if you type in Roman soldier, it said, we cannot make images that

00:10:33.520 depict violent people like Roman soldiers.

00:10:36.500 Right.

00:10:37.180 That's right.

00:10:37.880 And then somebody asked for Tiananmen Square and got a lecture on how we can't find an

00:10:42.840 image that would show you Tiananmen Square.

00:10:45.280 Are you kidding me?

00:10:46.360 No, swear to God.

00:10:47.560 Like, there'll be-

00:10:47.900 So he's got the box check with the CCP.

00:10:51.620 Somehow, he puts George Washington in blackface, but he asks the CCP for permission about what

00:10:57.440 he's just allowed to put.

00:10:59.960 There's one, suddenly there's one type of representation that doesn't matter.

00:11:05.280 And here, look, look what they did to poor Justin Trudeau when they, you know, they put

00:11:09.080 pictures off of Justin Trudeau.

00:11:10.660 This is so unfair.

00:11:12.060 This is so mean what they've done to-

00:11:14.000 Oh, wait.

00:11:15.540 Oh, wait a minute.

00:11:17.560 They got that one right.

00:11:18.660 So for the listening audience, it's all Justin Trudeau and real Justin Trudeau.

00:11:22.500 Inappropriate pictures, like a Native American headdress and total blackface.

00:11:26.460 I mean, black, blackface.

00:11:28.620 He's wearing a yarmulke.

00:11:30.220 I don't know what he's wearing.

00:11:33.420 I mean-

00:11:34.540 Gary, 100%, this guy, Jack Kazmarek, whatever, he's got similar pictures of himself someplace

00:11:39.460 on the internet.

00:11:40.100 I guarantee you.

00:11:41.340 Oh, yeah.

00:11:42.240 Right?

00:11:42.520 It's always people like that who are doing this to the rest of us.

00:11:45.220 Well, I mean, if your entire life is obsessed with race, chances are you've got your own

00:11:50.140 demons that you've dealt with at some point.

00:11:52.860 That is just, this is an unbelievable tool.

00:11:56.360 What was the point of this, by the way?

00:11:57.920 Was it like, I mean, everything, but we have a joke on the show, Megan, about how everything,

00:12:02.740 literally everything that touches the internet.

00:12:05.120 Now people are like, oh, AI, AI.

00:12:07.200 Like it could be just a simple Google search and they're like, oh, it's AI.

00:12:10.280 AI, this is like an AI tool that just, what, just makes pictures of people, not them?

00:12:16.600 Yeah.

00:12:16.960 What an innovative, what an innovative product.

00:12:19.740 I mean, it is kind of remarkable.

00:12:23.060 I want to meet, I want to meet the developers behind this tool because it is remarkable.

00:12:27.940 They were able to write code to trick the computers into showing incorrect information.

00:12:35.820 Actually, from a coding perspective, it's like even more impressive than getting it right.

00:12:40.280 Like you had to trick, you had to trick a computer into doing DEI.

00:12:44.560 Your Mac, your Mac is like, dude, no, no, no, no, no.

00:12:47.060 That's not the way it works.

00:12:49.280 Like the white bread.

00:12:50.900 How did they trick the computer to say, all right, we'll allow you to show white bread

00:12:54.780 as long as a black person is holding it.

00:12:57.140 There has to be representation.

00:13:00.640 I'm surprised.

00:13:01.180 Why didn't they go for like dark rye?

00:13:03.220 The white bread is equally problematic to the white person.

00:13:05.620 Like that was a, that was a fail actually.

00:13:10.340 Oh, it's just incredible.

00:13:12.860 What an innovation.

00:13:14.560 What, you know, just an amazing bunch of stuff happening these days.

00:13:17.900 You never say America's lost its touch.

00:13:19.920 We can figure out a new way to innovate that we never even thought of.

00:13:23.900 All right.

00:13:24.260 Now, speaking of America, this it's, I'm going to be honest.

00:13:28.580 It's not particularly newsworthy.

00:13:29.940 I just want to discuss it today, guys, guess what today is the 44th anniversary of, okay.

00:13:37.760 I'm going to give you a hint.

00:13:39.000 Well, let's do our math.

00:13:40.320 Okay.

00:13:41.120 It's 2024.

00:13:43.200 For those of you playing at home, two Oh, two four minus 44.

00:13:47.320 I need a calculator for this.

00:13:48.840 Oh, I know.

00:13:49.400 What year does that bring us to?

00:13:51.980 19, 1980.

00:13:53.920 Is it Lake Placid?

00:13:55.000 Are we talking about the,

00:13:56.020 of course the miracle on ice and lest, lest you not have it at the ready, let's go back

00:14:04.300 to the final minute of the U S versus Russia, the Soviets back then, a hockey game where we

00:14:14.760 were not expected to win by any measure.

00:14:17.560 And yet her Brooks from the university of Minnesota put together this team of scrappy 19, 20 and

00:14:23.080 21 year old boys from colleges, not our pros up against the greatest hockey team in the

00:14:28.580 world as of that point.

00:14:30.980 And it was not the final round.

00:14:33.040 It was around round right before that, but it was the biggest round.

00:14:35.740 And we had every expectation of losing.

00:14:37.900 Nobody expected us to win cold war, all of it happening.

00:14:41.860 Bunch of boys from the United States go up to Lake Placid and create what has been known

00:14:47.820 ever since as the miracle on ice.

00:14:50.920 Here it is.

00:14:51.500 Last 60 seconds.

00:14:53.080 The U S team is depending a little bit too much now on Jim Craig.

00:14:56.500 He's making too many good saves.

00:14:58.120 Arrozioni!

00:14:58.960 Arrozioni!

00:14:59.840 Michael Arrozioni!

00:15:06.880 11 seconds.

00:15:08.060 You've got 10 seconds.

00:15:09.280 The countdown going on right now.

00:15:11.060 Morrow up to Schultz.

00:15:12.700 Five seconds left in the game.

00:15:14.400 Do you believe in miracles?

00:15:15.960 Yes!

00:15:17.320 Unbelievable.

00:15:17.840 Unbelievable.

00:15:18.000 Unbelievable.

00:15:18.120 Unbelievable.

00:15:18.160 Unbelievable.

00:15:18.920 Unbelievable.

00:15:20.000 We used to be a country.

00:15:28.960 We used to be a country, Megan.

00:15:30.960 And how about Al Michaels on that call?

00:15:33.040 I mean, it brings a tear to your eye every single time.

00:15:34.880 One of the greatest calls in the history of sports.

00:15:37.560 It really was.

00:15:38.360 Aruzioni goes down in history as probably the second most important Italian next to Christopher

00:15:46.880 Columbus.

00:15:50.620 He came on the show.

00:15:52.320 He came on the show and we asked him about this.

00:15:54.360 Yeah, he came on the show.

00:15:55.140 Episode 302.

00:15:56.020 If you guys want to go back and look at it.

00:15:57.220 Anybody wants to take a listen to it?

00:15:58.460 Well, worth your time.

00:15:59.420 And we talked a little bit about the moment.

00:16:01.160 Here it is.

00:16:01.680 Watch.

00:16:01.940 To us, it was a hockey game.

00:16:06.320 An opportunity to win a game and get to the medal game, get to the gold medal game.

00:16:11.340 Clearly, we found out later that it was much more than a hockey game.

00:16:14.680 They saw that, you know, we love America type of a hockey team.

00:16:18.300 And we did.

00:16:19.080 We took great pride in putting that jersey on that says USA across the front.

00:16:22.660 I can't tell you how many times people come up to me today and they'll say exactly this.

00:16:27.200 I remember where I was when we won and I go, we, I didn't know you were on the team, but

00:16:33.160 that's what people felt like.

00:16:34.940 They felt like they were a part of us and people were proud to wave the flag after, you

00:16:40.520 know, after we won.

00:16:42.160 And prior to that, people were wondering, where are we headed?

00:16:44.880 Where is this country going?

00:16:46.000 And I think Jimmy Carter even said it.

00:16:47.960 He said, we are a country that's, you know, headed in the wrong direction and we need something

00:16:54.180 to feel good about.

00:16:55.020 And it was us.

00:16:57.200 Oh, so great.

00:16:59.780 It's so great.

00:17:00.680 Megan, I grew up in Minnesota and there was an awful lot of Minnesotans on that team,

00:17:05.240 Neil Broughton and others.

00:17:06.580 And that Lake Placid event was like religion in all of the state of Minnesota.

00:17:13.280 I mean, you could not grow up at any point in the 80s and not have your family talk all

00:17:18.520 the time about what a great moment that was and how it was emblematic of a new rise within

00:17:26.160 the country, a new sense of national pride.

00:17:28.800 And Ronald Reagan obviously took that to another level during the course of his two terms.

00:17:33.120 But that really was a demarcation line of Americans getting back together again.

00:17:39.080 You know, I had the opposite experience, Holmes, because I grew up in upstate New York, Syracuse

00:17:43.940 in Albany. So we were closer to Lake Placid and had a similar connection to it just for

00:17:49.120 that reason, because not a lot happens in upstate New York.

00:17:52.240 So this is the most exciting thing in decades and really one of the most exciting for America

00:17:57.360 still.

00:17:58.060 I mean, we just happened to be watching Miracle with the kids like 10 days ago.

00:18:02.840 My fourth grader's teacher said in class, it was her very favorite movie.

00:18:07.440 And we were like, you know what?

00:18:08.560 That's a great one.

00:18:09.080 Let's put that one back on.

00:18:11.180 And, you know, Kurt Russell was so amazing as Herb Brooks in that movie.

00:18:14.960 Yes.

00:18:15.260 And you forget that Herb Brooks had that team play the Russians.

00:18:18.640 It was 10 days before or 13 days before the Olympics began.

00:18:25.160 He had our guys play the Russians at an exhibition match, I think, at Madison Square Garden, something

00:18:29.660 like that.

00:18:30.100 And we got crushed 10 to 3, 10 to 3, even after all that training.

00:18:36.160 But he knew what he was doing.

00:18:37.900 And they got to Lake Placid and they had Jim Craig and goal, who was, you know, that tape,

00:18:42.960 if you watch that tape play out there, you can see the goalie, Jim Craig, skating around

00:18:46.920 going, where's my father with his Boston accent?

00:18:49.180 Where's my father?

00:18:50.660 Right?

00:18:51.700 His mom had died.

00:18:53.780 And anyway, so these guys, these young kids, and they talked about in both in Miracle and

00:18:58.220 in the actual ESPN documentary, which is awesome about it, about how the Russians were so dominant,

00:19:05.500 they didn't know what to do when they were down and there were only a few minutes left.

00:19:08.900 They didn't know to pull their goalie so they can get another offensive guy out on the

00:19:13.360 ice because they never had to do it.

00:19:15.540 They lost, right?

00:19:17.140 They never had to do it.

00:19:18.880 They were completely baffled.

00:19:20.540 But the reason I bring it up is just, A, it's a feel-great moment, right?

00:19:24.140 And it's one of the greatest moments in sports.

00:19:25.640 My husband said it's literally got to be one of, if not the top moment in sport, never

00:19:30.280 mind American sport.

00:19:32.020 And then, and here's Arruzzioni, the guy who scored what would ultimately be the game-winning

00:19:36.280 goal, the team captain, getting all of our guys at the Olympic ceremony up on that

00:19:41.040 tiny little podium, all of our guys with American flags and the feelings they had when the American

00:19:47.080 flag was raised above that of the Soviets, all of that.

00:19:51.840 Somehow we got to find a way back to that, guys.

00:19:55.600 Because what we're doing now, like right now, right now, is we're celebrating Russians and

00:20:02.800 Russia and comparing the U.S. unfavorably to Russia?

00:20:07.480 And I understand, like, there are, sure, there are some points.

00:20:10.080 I've been to St. Petersburg.

00:20:11.160 It's wonderful.

00:20:12.840 It's not better than America.

00:20:14.300 It's not better.

00:20:15.060 Moscow's not better than America.

00:20:16.200 Go to Santa Barbara if you want to see the most beautiful city on earth, if you ask me.

00:20:20.420 And now, on top of that, we're at a time when patriotism is at an all-time low, especially

00:20:26.120 among young people, and where our athletes, instead of going on top of the podium, inviting

00:20:31.600 all the guys out there wearing their USA, waving their American flags, cheering for the

00:20:35.420 United States, are crapping all over America, right?

00:20:39.440 Megan Rapinoe, U.S. women's soccer team, not long before that, all the kneelers at the

00:20:44.580 NFL, thankfully, they've been told to get up off their knees, and they're listening, and

00:20:48.460 now the NFL's ratings are back.

00:20:50.720 But look where we are 44 years later.

00:20:53.180 I don't think those guys, I don't think Herb Brooks, God rest him, would believe what we've

00:20:59.400 done to sport, and it's been really detrimental.

00:21:02.920 Anyway, your thoughts on all of it?

00:21:04.560 No, there's no question.

00:21:05.800 I couldn't identify more with what you've just laid out.

00:21:08.980 I mean, look, I think one of the things that bothers me the most is that it's all self-inflicted,

00:21:13.540 right?

00:21:13.900 I mean, the pride in our country should be there, because our country still is the greatest

00:21:20.920 country in the world, undoubtedly.

00:21:23.140 If you have any question about that, head to South Florida for the first generation Americans

00:21:28.300 down there who fled communist Cuba and see what that's like.

00:21:32.760 Those are the most patriotic set of Americans that we have in this country, and it seems

00:21:37.820 to me like we've just sort of lost the thread along the way, that it became unfashionable

00:21:42.920 to talk about how great this country actually is, and how much we do positive for not only

00:21:48.860 the people in our country, but the world.

00:21:50.680 And we do have to get back to that, don't we, fellas?

00:21:53.840 Yeah, I mean, I think so.

00:21:54.980 I think the real problem is in our education system, Megan.

00:21:58.400 You know, I mean, I think kids are taught today to see people as oppressed or oppressors.

00:22:04.280 And so, you know, there is no national unity.

00:22:08.040 It's all, you know, us versus them sort of rhetoric.

00:22:12.460 It's cultural Marxism is what it is.

00:22:15.800 It's people like this Jack Kesmar, whatever, Ket Kraswick, whatever you are.

00:22:20.120 It's people like him who just want to remind you to return America's racist.

00:22:23.780 It's racist.

00:22:24.860 And there are white privileges everywhere, as opposed to celebrating the greatness of this

00:22:28.960 country of ours and our history, what we've done to liberate the world.

00:22:31.960 They want to focus on one chapter and only one chapter to the point where we literally

00:22:36.180 now need to recast the founding fathers in a skin color other than their own.

00:22:43.060 Well said.

00:22:43.920 Yeah, we used to care about the Olympics.

00:22:45.260 Now we care about the oppression Olympics and where you fit that podium of oppression.

00:22:50.000 That's the most important thing.

00:22:51.280 I don't know how we pull out of it.

00:22:52.780 I mean, you know, the summer Olympics are coming up this summer in Paris, and I just shudder

00:22:57.340 to think about what some of these athletes are going to do when they get on the podium.

00:23:00.540 How are they going to display either their patriotism or the opposite of their patriotism?

00:23:05.160 And the entire world will watch it and they will be picking up followers on social media

00:23:10.580 as a result.

00:23:11.700 And I just I I'm not my I'm not optimistic about what they're going to do when they're

00:23:16.860 there.

00:23:17.760 Hmm.

00:23:17.980 I just think, you know, like, I'm not even a sports person, but I recognize the importance

00:23:22.060 of sports in our culture, you know, as a sort of a touchstone.

00:23:26.320 And I think it's like one of the last unifying pieces of our culture.

00:23:30.120 Right.

00:23:30.640 I mean, it just even NFL games.

00:23:33.260 You know, there are people who wouldn't talk to each other at all.

00:23:36.180 It all sit in 60,000 seat stadiums and high five one of one another during the course of

00:23:41.640 an NFL game.

00:23:42.460 Like, it's that kind of thing that is the beauty and the magic of sports.

00:23:46.640 Yeah, I think that's what makes the NFL so special.

00:23:48.760 It's what makes Major League Baseball so special.

00:23:50.800 College basketball special.

00:23:52.640 Duncan is a really big soccer fan.

00:23:54.500 I'm not sure whether it extends to that sport.

00:23:57.560 It's the most popular sport in the world.

00:23:59.160 I just want to point that out.

00:24:00.120 It's great for children.

00:24:01.620 It's great for children.

00:24:02.960 Yeah, no, it is.

00:24:05.100 I'm just saying you all watch the World Cup, too, you know.

00:24:07.920 And I think back to like Holmes's point on that is like, you know, sports provides these

00:24:12.900 moments of national unity where we're all doing the same thing.

00:24:16.500 You know, everybody watches the Super Bowl, even if they aren't a big football fan.

00:24:19.700 And in our like fractured media, you know, tribalistic world that we live in now, like

00:24:25.460 nobody has shared experiences like that anymore.

00:24:28.420 That's right.

00:24:28.880 You know?

00:24:29.940 Well, that's why I'm so glad to see those players back on their feet.

00:24:33.660 I don't really give a damn what their private beliefs are.

00:24:35.800 They can hate America on their time behind the scenes, not when we're trying to have

00:24:40.700 a shared experience about sports and competition and greatness on the field, right?

00:24:46.400 And if you're going to say anything about America, make it be positive or say nothing

00:24:50.660 at all.

00:24:51.260 Keep your mouth shut.

00:24:52.060 And to those people like Megan Rapinoe, you can't represent the United States with pride.

00:24:55.940 Get the F off the team.

00:24:57.220 We don't need you.

00:24:58.160 There are a million girls who would kill to be on that team, even today in 2024, where

00:25:03.180 patriotism among young people in particular is at its lowest point.

00:25:07.320 So it's just a good reminder.

00:25:09.420 Here we are 44 years later.

00:25:11.100 Most of these players are still alive and well.

00:25:13.640 Doug and I were laughing after Miracle ended.

00:25:15.640 We were saying, can you imagine the number of like banks, you know, that went to these

00:25:21.640 guys and said, you don't have to do anything.

00:25:23.960 Just shop at our dinners.

00:25:25.380 Just come, please.

00:25:26.860 Have anything to do with us so we can say we work with Jim Craig or Mike Aruzzioni, right?

00:25:33.560 Because those guys, they make you feel good about yourself.

00:25:37.960 No, completely.

00:25:39.140 I mean, in Minnesota, all of them, I don't think have ever played for a drink since 1980.

00:25:43.180 It's like them, Kirby Bucket, and Herbeck, who are like the only people in Minnesota who

00:25:47.660 never paid for a meal after that.

00:25:49.280 But I mean, it is just, it bound the whole country together.

00:25:53.760 And we got to find more experiences like that.

00:25:57.180 Hopefully sports is a part of that.

00:25:58.680 Hopefully the Olympics does do some of that.

00:26:02.260 Well, we're not going to get it in the context of the presidential race.

00:26:06.020 This will not come as news to any of you.

00:26:09.220 I reported this yesterday.

00:26:10.780 This is a CNN report that I quoted yesterday.

00:26:13.060 But apparently, President Biden's new tactic, quote, new tactic, is going to be to call

00:26:20.000 attention to, quote, the crazy shit that Trump says.

00:26:24.800 I think we have a clip of CNN, yeah, reporting on it.

00:26:27.680 It's CNN's MJ Lee reporting this news.

00:26:31.440 Watch this, Hot 3.

00:26:32.500 Yeah, Brianna, what we've learned is that President Biden himself personally instructed some of

00:26:39.380 his top campaign aides to be even more aggressive in highlighting some of President Trump's more

00:26:45.140 inflammatory and wild comments.

00:26:47.520 We are told that the thrust of the president's direction was to significantly ramp up the campaign's

00:26:52.780 efforts to highlight the crazy shit that Trump says in public.

00:26:57.740 Can you do that?

00:27:01.100 I didn't know they could get away with that on CNN.

00:27:03.040 She didn't.

00:27:03.920 She said thrust and shit.

00:27:06.300 When the president says it, you're allowed to say it.

00:27:08.900 Is that right?

00:27:09.420 I think that's probably the rule at the FCC.

00:27:11.200 Who knows?

00:27:11.620 That's the new rule.

00:27:13.080 That's the new rule.

00:27:14.040 So that's the plan.

00:27:16.140 And I thought to myself, OK, we have a plan.

00:27:18.880 Let's see.

00:27:20.140 The new plan sounds a lot like the old plan.

00:27:23.140 I don't mean to judge.

00:27:27.420 But it's like, you know what, we've we haven't had enough focus on what President Trump's

00:27:33.760 quotations are under reported as an individual.

00:27:39.680 What we need is for President Biden to step up the rhetoric about how bad President Trump

00:27:46.120 is.

00:27:46.520 That will do it.

00:27:48.240 Much unlike the following comments, which he he said before, which somehow didn't quite

00:27:53.540 land.

00:27:53.940 Watch.

00:27:55.280 You want to be on the side of Dr. King or George Wallace?

00:28:00.740 Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor?

00:28:05.300 Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations

00:28:11.960 of our republic.

00:28:13.780 But there's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated

00:28:19.500 by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans.

00:28:22.560 And that is a threat to this country.

00:28:26.300 They embrace anger.

00:28:28.380 They thrive on chaos.

00:28:31.240 They live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies.

00:28:36.460 Well, so around the edges, maybe he's going to change it a little.

00:28:40.220 It's just, you know, what America is looking for is that unifying voice that, you know,

00:28:46.200 just brings us all together and resists hyperbole often, doesn't call anybody who doesn't vote

00:28:53.940 for him a racist.

00:28:55.000 You know, it's thoughtful stuff.

00:28:56.960 What they ought to do is play tape of that, because I haven't heard Biden speak that clearly

00:29:01.060 in at least a year.

00:29:02.800 Yeah.

00:29:04.080 Well, if he really, I mean, if he really believes that and if Democrats in the Democratic Party

00:29:09.860 believes that, they would call a vote on the 25th Amendment from the cabinet today, because

00:29:15.740 clearly Joe Biden is not the best candidate they have to go toe to toe with Donald Trump.

00:29:21.160 I mean, that's just a fact.

00:29:22.620 It's so bad.

00:29:23.440 I mean, everything about I saw an interesting article on National Review today.

00:29:27.540 Forgive me, because I don't remember who wrote it.

00:29:29.440 It was a I don't remember the author's name, but in any event, it was interesting.

00:29:33.800 It was talking about how the really interesting election right now is not 2024.

00:29:38.920 It's 2026.

00:29:40.460 It's not who's going to be in the White House in 2024.

00:29:42.520 It's who's going to be in the Oval in 26, because in either lane, you're probably looking

00:29:49.020 at a 25th Amendment challenge within the first two years.

00:29:51.680 Well, I mean, just the what are they, those tables that they use to do your life insurance?

00:29:59.600 Yeah.

00:30:00.220 Right.

00:30:00.600 Actuarial tables like, you know, just those would give you some pause about where we're

00:30:06.460 at.

00:30:06.840 You know, Holmes, on Biden, they'll do Kamala will probably get it going as if he gets

00:30:11.860 reelected, you know, like then as soon as they've secured reelection, the point was

00:30:17.380 they're going to knife him.

00:30:18.660 The Democrats know he can't do it.

00:30:20.000 So as soon as he secures reelection, they're going to knife him and try to replace him

00:30:23.380 with somebody who can do the job, maybe her or whatever.

00:30:25.260 They know she can't get elected on her own, but you'll already be there.

00:30:27.620 She'll be a warm body.

00:30:28.960 And on Trump, they already talked about doing 25th Amendment on him when he wouldn't accept

00:30:33.660 the results of the 2020 election.

00:30:35.800 So there's zero chance that Trump will resume some of the crazy shit.

00:30:40.160 I think that's fair to say once he gets back in office.

00:30:42.460 Certainly rhetoric.

00:30:44.720 I'm not talking about the way he governed exactly, but he makes weird threats and so

00:30:48.200 on.

00:30:48.400 That's going to resume.

00:30:49.440 So I think it's actually a decent point that you really do need to pay attention to the

00:30:53.980 number two on both sides as we leap forward with these same candidates.

00:30:59.720 Yeah.

00:30:59.880 Well, it's funny just speaking about the Democrats in particular for a party that sort of fashions

00:31:05.160 itself as a top-lying talking point that they're here to protect our democracy.

00:31:09.300 They certainly don't want to face it at any point, right?

00:31:12.200 I mean, the whole point of Joe Biden and this dance around whether he's going to be on the

00:31:17.940 ticket or he's not going to be on the ticket or whether you replace him after he wins re-election,

00:31:22.340 all of that discussion is completely revolving around the idea that you never have to actually

00:31:27.600 have a primary within your party and then you could potentially have a replacement for

00:31:32.380 Joe Biden that nobody would have to vote for either.

00:31:33.980 I mean, that's protecting our democratic principle.

00:31:38.060 It's finest.

00:31:38.320 They're our champions.

00:31:39.440 Christian Snyder is the person who wrote the article.

00:31:42.580 I know that, Ashbrook, I'm told you've got a theory, though.

00:31:45.620 You've got a theory of your own on how it might not be Biden.

00:31:50.160 I know everybody says, oh, everybody's got a lot of theories about this, but yours actually

00:31:53.680 is kind of clever because one of the big problems in subbing out Biden is what do we

00:31:59.220 do about Kamala?

00:32:00.660 Yeah.

00:32:01.100 I think honestly, Megan, I mean, anybody who's watching Biden, Republican or Democrat, is

00:32:06.440 convinced that he is not capable of doing the job and Democrats won't say it.

00:32:10.800 They just privately say it to each other, never say it publicly.

00:32:13.220 So they are going to be looking for a replacement.

00:32:16.560 I'm I'm convinced of it.

00:32:17.860 And they know that Kamala cannot win in November.

00:32:21.560 And the only way they get around her is Biden's replacement is by going to the convention, which

00:32:28.060 I will note is one month after the Republican convention.

00:32:31.860 Democrat convention is in August.

00:32:33.720 And then they have a party father like Barack Obama, who convenes the delegates and says,

00:32:40.840 I mean, of course, this is following Joe Biden saying, look, for the for the good of the party,

00:32:45.020 I will not continue to seek the nomination.

00:32:48.180 I recommend that we find a new person at the convention.

00:32:51.500 Obama convenes the convention and they find a list of four or five other candidates who are

00:32:57.060 voted on by the delegates at the convention.

00:32:59.300 And Kamala Harris is one of them because she's a sitting vice president, but she's going to

00:33:03.420 have to run against people like Gavin Newsom, people like Gretchen Williams, people like

00:33:08.480 Wes Moore, who is who is the governor of Maryland and then Democrats.

00:33:12.660 They're calling him the next Obama.

00:33:14.860 Well, yeah.

00:33:15.460 And and and then you have you basically have a two month run where the media covers for

00:33:19.680 whoever is chosen at the Dem convention.

00:33:22.020 And and then they they have a better shot at winning the White House in November.

00:33:27.140 So this is so interesting because this is your your your way of saying they've got to deal

00:33:33.580 with the problem named Kamala.

00:33:35.060 They can't just oust her and lose black women, which is a critical part of their base.

00:33:40.480 And there's some reason to believe that they would be offended if she just got,

00:33:43.260 you know, goose stepped over.

00:33:46.220 And so this is like giving her a shot to try for it, but putting a bunch of other people

00:33:51.060 in there who are more than likely going to take over and not not her.

00:33:55.000 She's not going to get it because the Democrats don't actually like her.

00:33:58.360 Yeah, well, I mean, one of the things that they have to studiously avoid is a situation

00:34:02.000 where they were at in 2020, where they had 10 candidates on stage tripping all over themselves

00:34:08.080 to raise their hand for opening borders and, you know, giving away every tax dollar you've

00:34:13.780 got.

00:34:14.300 And that would happen again.

00:34:16.120 I mean, the progressive energy within the Democratic base is there to the point where you could

00:34:19.940 disqualify anyone when you're talking about that 90 day period before an election just

00:34:24.800 by virtue of having a democratic process, right?

00:34:27.700 So they got to avoid that.

00:34:28.840 I mean, your theory is as good as anyone I've heard.

00:34:31.280 I mean, if they if they have to if they have to get out from under Joe Biden, and I mean,

00:34:34.960 I believe they do.

00:34:36.280 I don't think they really have much of a chance with Joe Biden at the top of their ticket.

00:34:39.640 If they have to get out from under him, I can't think of another way to do it without

00:34:43.260 putting Kamala in his place.

00:34:46.240 I think this is fascinating.

00:34:47.620 This actually makes a lot of sense to me.

00:34:50.480 Just getting rid of Kamala just doesn't seem like a viable option for them, given the way

00:34:54.700 their voting base works.

00:34:56.580 So this I like better than a lot of the other ones I've I've heard, especially if it's not

00:35:01.500 a Michelle Obama situation, because there isn't a Democrat alive who would actually be

00:35:07.000 upset about Michelle Obama.

00:35:08.460 They may claim they would be, but they wouldn't be.

00:35:10.780 So they wouldn't have this problem if it were Michelle.

00:35:13.060 But if it's anybody other than Michelle, especially a white man, they forget about it.

00:35:18.720 They are going to have to make that person sing for their supper before they can just

00:35:22.860 turf Kamala.

00:35:23.560 All right.

00:35:23.900 Stand by.

00:35:24.340 There's so much more to get to today.

00:35:25.420 You guys, I'm so happy you're here.

00:35:27.080 More with Ruthless just ahead.

00:35:29.160 I don't know if you've been following the Fannie Willis case, but we're absolutely reveling

00:35:37.600 in it over here because it's just absolutely amazing.

00:35:40.520 And the latest news today is that we expect, according to Fox News dot com, which says it

00:35:45.300 got a source to tell it that on Monday.

00:35:48.100 Today, they're going to bring Terrence Bradley, the defense attorney, well, the divorce attorney

00:35:54.940 for Nathan Wade, former, into the judge's chambers, where we expect he will be questioned

00:36:01.540 by the judge about these sweeping claims of attorney-client privilege he asserted to try

00:36:06.460 to get out of saying whether he knew that they were having an affair long before 2022 and

00:36:14.600 putting the lie to the claims made by Nathan and Fannie on the stand.

00:36:19.960 Now, it would be a complete blockbuster if this guy does have that knowledge and can

00:36:26.260 testify to it, because right now you've had a woman take the stand, Robin Urty, to say

00:36:31.660 this affair began long before 2022.

00:36:33.840 It began as far back as 19, and I was Fannie's good friend, and even Fannie admits that.

00:36:38.440 And she told me, and I witnessed it.

00:36:39.980 And every media outlet since then has said, disgruntled.

00:36:43.440 She's disgruntled.

00:36:44.600 Because she was forced out of the DA's office on terms she didn't much like.

00:36:49.060 But if this guy, Terrence Bradley, Nathan Wade's former partner and friend, can also say, dude,

00:36:55.780 it was going on for years.

00:36:57.680 It's interesting, very interesting, because yes, it shows she hired her lover without disclosing

00:37:03.120 it, and that's inappropriate.

00:37:04.700 But secondly, and more importantly, it would show these two perjured themselves under oath

00:37:11.260 to the court.

00:37:12.420 Um, so all of it is very interesting, and there are many other problems with Fannie Willis's

00:37:17.520 behavior, but that's just the latest today, that this guy's going behind closed doors.

00:37:21.800 And I'll tell you, you guys, they're fighting with this guy, you know, hammer and tong, because

00:37:25.900 they tried to eviscerate him on the stand last Friday.

00:37:29.280 They sexually assaulted, not one, but two women.

00:37:31.820 He denied.

00:37:32.420 But they went after him trying to get his jugular, even though he said nothing harmful to them.

00:37:39.640 So they must know something we don't know about what Terrence Bradley's texts say, or what

00:37:46.900 Terrence Bradley knows.

00:37:48.580 Because we found out on Friday, he was texting with Ashley Merchant, the defense attorney.

00:37:53.120 He, he, cat got his tongue once he took the stand, but prior to the stand, he'd been talking

00:37:57.040 a lot, including to Michael Roman, defendant's attorney, Ashley Merchant.

00:38:02.540 She's got all the texts.

00:38:04.000 The judge, I think, will see them, or maybe already has.

00:38:06.440 Maybe the state has seen them, too, and that's why they wanted to try to kill this guy without

00:38:11.400 taking any pause to realize, oh, wait, he didn't actually hurt us.

00:38:14.340 You know, like, wait to kill him until he hurts us.

00:38:16.560 Otherwise, we look stupid.

00:38:18.640 Anywho, that's where things stand now.

00:38:21.660 And the media continues, and I'll get to this next, to run massive cover for the both of them.

00:38:27.960 So what do you make of these extraordinary developments in this, one of the four big cases

00:38:32.260 against Trump?

00:38:33.400 Well, I just have, I had one, like, basic threshold strategic question for the Trump

00:38:39.540 team here, which is, all of us watched all of this last week and unfolding and all the various

00:38:45.640 testimony, how Fannie did on the stand and, like, this other dude and all this stuff going on.

00:38:51.580 Are we sure they don't want her to prosecute these cases?

00:38:54.960 Like, if I'm in team Trump and I'm looking across the dais at what's happening here, I'm

00:39:04.200 like, ah, I feel pretty good about my chances with that lady.

00:39:07.920 It's so true.

00:39:09.080 No, I mean, there's, it's dumb, I mean, this is the most serious case you'll ever be trying,

00:39:17.580 you know, in your job, and she decides to appoint her lover, the most high-profile case

00:39:22.980 against a former president of the United States, and she's not like, oh, maybe this is a bad

00:39:26.720 call.

00:39:27.540 Like, that is a remarkable, remarkable thing.

00:39:30.000 I think those are strong words, bud, because what she said is that when he paid for the

00:39:35.840 trips, she would reimburse him with cash, and what we all know is a typical thing to

00:39:40.880 do when you go on trips with friends, somebody reserves the VRBO, let's say it costs six,

00:39:45.660 $8,000 for a week, and then you pay them back with cash.

00:39:49.760 You go to the ATM, you take out $3,000 to pay your half.

00:39:53.700 That's the way it works, usually, among friends.

00:39:56.400 A little cash on the nightstand, huh?

00:39:58.560 That's what Doug and I would do.

00:40:00.220 Before we actually got married, we were just dating each other, we'd go on, and he would

00:40:04.420 look at me, and he would say, pony up, five grand, sister, that's your half.

00:40:10.040 And he would look at me, and he would say, a man is not a plan.

00:40:13.020 And I said, a man.

00:40:14.540 You're right.

00:40:15.640 And demand that the suitcase of cash be delivered directly to him, right?

00:40:20.760 I mean, it's, I think you've got to have some kind of a carrying case for these guys.

00:40:24.860 What an embarrassing soap opera this whole thing has become.

00:40:28.200 And I can't decide which is more shameless, Joe Biden not recognizing he's in mental decline

00:40:33.460 and should not run for re-election, or Fannie Willis realizing maybe she's not the best person

00:40:38.040 to be in the center of this case anymore.

00:40:39.880 You know what I mean?

00:40:41.200 They're fighting it.

00:40:42.020 She blew it.

00:40:42.880 She had the greatest opportunity to make herself an international star.

00:40:46.680 She was on her way.

00:40:48.300 The Vogue treatment, all, like, these cover sheets and pieces on her.

00:40:53.740 And then she got, I don't know, a case of the hormones.

00:40:58.020 I don't know what happened to Fannie, but she should have stayed the hell away from Nathan

00:41:01.780 Wade.

00:41:02.420 You know?

00:41:02.740 So I think they had, like, the presumed innocent moment, you know, when they were, like, trying

00:41:07.240 a case together and they got hot for each other.

00:41:09.100 I don't know.

00:41:09.540 I don't know.

00:41:10.140 Either it happened before or it happened after.

00:41:12.200 Either way, Scott's not appropriate.

00:41:15.880 Don't you just, you gotta button this one up.

00:41:19.140 I mean, of all times, like, look, I get things happen in the context of the world.

00:41:24.000 But you don't often find yourself literally at the center of the most important story in

00:41:30.300 the most important country in the world very often.

00:41:33.800 And, like, maybe that is the time where you just kind of want to trim the sails a little

00:41:37.860 bit.

00:41:38.300 Like, maybe.

00:41:38.580 Yeah, trim the sails.

00:41:39.980 Maybe that dude, you can figure out how to hang out with him after you get done with

00:41:44.320 all that.

00:41:44.540 I mean, it's just, it blows my mind the collective lack of judgment that is being displayed on

00:41:51.200 this and for all the people who are watching the New York stuff that seemed like a total

00:41:56.620 railroad of Trump on multiple counts.

00:42:00.140 And now you look at this Georgia situation, like, look, they're not setting their best to

00:42:05.440 courtrooms around this country.

00:42:07.340 And not for nothing.

00:42:08.100 But she isn't handing out minimum wage on this case.

00:42:10.700 Did you see that this guy's made over $650,000 doing, like, the side of the case against Trump?

00:42:17.260 Yes.

00:42:17.620 That's, you know more about the legal system than we did, Megan.

00:42:20.780 But, like, that's.

00:42:21.200 That's another thing, Ashbrook.

00:42:22.160 He tried to say that that was less than he made in private practice.

00:42:25.180 And then Ashley Merchant was cross-examining him, saying, I got your tax returns from last

00:42:29.660 year.

00:42:29.820 You made $200,000.

00:42:32.300 Hello?

00:42:33.220 He's like, yeah, but you forget about all the taxes I didn't pay.

00:42:36.260 Well, you can get that.

00:42:38.660 Did he report the reimbursements from Fannie in that tax form?

00:42:41.740 All the cash.

00:42:42.980 The tips.

00:42:43.460 Exactly it.

00:42:44.500 You got to get, it's tips on the nightstand.

00:42:47.000 So here, let me give you some of the media coverage on this, because it's just that Katie

00:42:52.400 Fang, she used to work at Fox News.

00:42:55.060 She, she was a Fox News legal analyst at one point and sane.

00:42:58.800 But then she went over to MSNBC and I think like her brain got colored.

00:43:02.380 You know, it's like you sort of get massaged with this leftist thinking every day.

00:43:08.120 And then before you know it, you're a leftist.

00:43:10.180 I think that's what's happened to her because this is an insane piece she posted talking

00:43:15.880 about how, okay, I'll give you a line.

00:43:19.020 Over the span of a two-day hearing in a Fulton County courtroom last week, America unnecessarily

00:43:24.000 heard the details of the personal lives of two Georgia state prosecutors.

00:43:28.920 Details we should never have had to learn.

00:43:32.560 That one of them battled cancer.

00:43:34.980 That one of them keeps plenty of cash in her home because her father taught her to do so.

00:43:40.780 That one of them is going through a divorce and agreed with his estranged wife not to

00:43:44.740 file until their children were of age.

00:43:46.700 That one of them has been the target of vile racist death threats.

00:43:50.740 None of that information was relevant or required for the prosecution of a pending criminal case

00:43:55.300 in which the 45th president of the United States is a co-defendant.

00:43:58.300 The real motive behind this waste of time and money was to muddy the waters and create

00:44:03.640 a very public crisis of character for the lead prosecutor.

00:44:07.580 You see, guys, as soon as it comes to bad behavior, female empowerment is out the window.

00:44:15.780 Fannie has absolutely no agency for anything that happened to her.

00:44:20.780 It's all the mean, evil Republican defendants who are to blame for allegedly bringing out

00:44:28.100 stories of cancer.

00:44:29.680 Fannie volunteered that cash.

00:44:32.260 Nathan and Fannie volunteered that the divorce.

00:44:35.940 That was also something brought up by the defense as the reason for, you know, how,

00:44:40.780 why he wasn't actually cheating and on and on it goes.

00:44:43.300 They created this problem.

00:44:44.640 They did not.

00:44:45.480 They did not trim the sales homes.

00:44:47.380 They did not trim the sales.

00:44:48.340 That is why this became an issue.

00:44:50.920 Nobody would have been asked these questions had it not been for them.

00:44:54.840 It's just, again, they put themselves at the absolute center of this, right?

00:45:00.440 I mean, there is an awful lot of people around the country that would think twice about their

00:45:05.300 own vulnerabilities, liabilities, whether or not they are good enough to prosecute the

00:45:10.260 most important case in a presidential election year that quite literally could determine who

00:45:14.580 the next president of the United States is.

00:45:16.240 And you do some inventory, take some inventory, but knowing that this is inherently a political

00:45:21.540 discussion because it's a political election with a likely nominee and you're going to

00:45:26.740 be the subject of some criticism.

00:45:28.620 But these people, they're like, it never even occurred to them.

00:45:31.820 And anybody outside of their cul-de-sac might actually know their name.

00:45:35.240 And yet they're prosecuted Donald Trump.

00:45:36.800 She's signing his checks and ran on a promise not to have sex with an employee.

00:45:43.560 Now her defense is he's not an employee.

00:45:46.400 He's a, he's a contractor.

00:45:48.420 Oh, we missed footnote 47 in your disclosures about who you would and would not sleep with.

00:45:53.920 We'll pay closer attention on your reelection battle.

00:45:56.420 It's a hell of a campaign promise now, isn't it?

00:45:58.880 Donald Trump's superpowers.

00:46:02.680 He somehow cultivates the dumbest enemies.

00:46:06.520 I don't know how he does it.

00:46:08.320 It's incredible.

00:46:09.180 I'm just, I'm busily trying to think how I'd work through the ad script on that pitch, right?

00:46:13.540 It's like, I will prosecute crap.

00:46:15.400 We'll clean up the streets and I definitely will not have sex with my employees.

00:46:19.940 Independent contractors.

00:46:21.040 There's, it depends how hot I, I'm not going to lie.

00:46:25.440 I mean, you can't make it up.

00:46:27.860 No, you cannot.

00:46:29.340 But the media's attempt to run cover for these two is not going to work.

00:46:32.860 Katie Fang, by the way, goes on to pause and talk about straw men, that, that the theory

00:46:38.280 of Republicans who are mad about this relationship of the defendants is that before Wade was appointed,

00:46:45.160 she intentionally went to governor, former governor of Georgia, Ray Barnes, to offer him the job,

00:46:50.140 knowing the entire time that he would turn her down.

00:46:53.180 She intentionally got two other special prosecutors to agree to the same low hourly rate as Wade's.

00:46:58.360 By the way, his cap was much, much higher, so that's why he gets paid more.

00:47:00.960 And there's a real dispute about whether they are getting the same hourly rate anyway.

00:47:04.740 She intentionally got the CFO of Fulton County to conspire with her to approve his invoices each month,

00:47:09.760 convinced a special purpose grand jury to recommend multiple charges against individuals,

00:47:14.100 convinced a grand, okay, you see where she's going.

00:47:16.140 This is not at all what anyone's arguing.

00:47:17.860 They're just arguing that she has an inappropriate relationship with the special prosecutor she

00:47:23.340 brought in, that she's benefiting now financially from the arrangement because she's signing his

00:47:29.220 checks, which are greater than the other two prosecutors and anyone in her office, and

00:47:33.520 then taking lavish vacations on it.

00:47:35.540 That's it.

00:47:36.320 It doesn't have to have been a concocted plan from three years ago.

00:47:40.360 This is a straw man from someone who feels this case slipping away.

00:47:44.940 Right?

00:47:45.280 Standby.

00:47:45.680 I got to take a quick break.

00:47:47.500 Much, much more with my friends from Ruthless coming straight up.

00:47:54.900 Guys, any of you affected by the AT&T outage?

00:47:58.060 Did your phones go haywire this morning at all?

00:48:00.140 No, thankfully I have missed all of that.

00:48:02.680 But I heard, I mean, I've got clients and things that are real proud.

00:48:05.600 I was a victim.

00:48:06.560 How about you two?

00:48:07.340 Anything?

00:48:08.040 I was.

00:48:08.960 My phone went to like SOS mode or whatever.

00:48:11.540 Yeah.

00:48:12.260 Yeah.

00:48:13.200 Great.

00:48:13.560 It's so annoying.

00:48:14.780 And it reminds you just how dependent we are on these things, right?

00:48:17.560 It's like I was on the phone with a friend.

00:48:19.580 It died.

00:48:20.600 Then you do the thing where you try to call the person back and it just keeps saying call

00:48:23.960 failed, call failed.

00:48:24.920 She couldn't get through to me either.

00:48:26.220 And now this just hit from ABC News.

00:48:29.780 Two sources briefed on the situation tell ABC News that the FBI and Department of Homeland

00:48:34.820 Security, among other agencies, are now urgently investigating to determine whether the AT&T

00:48:39.300 outages are the result of a cyber attack or a hack or simply some sort of technical malfunction.

00:48:46.340 As of 5 a.m. Eastern time, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency reported, according

00:48:52.440 to a confidential memo obtained by ABC News, that the cause of the outage is unknown.

00:48:57.120 There are no indications of malicious activity.

00:49:00.200 Nonetheless, they are investigating right now urgently to see whether this is a cyber attack

00:49:06.180 or something else.

00:49:07.980 But it's it is somewhat disturbing, right?

00:49:10.500 If it's a cyber attack, is it just to mess with us?

00:49:15.760 Is it a test run at something bigger and worse?

00:49:20.020 Could they affect not just a network like AT&T by something government run?

00:49:25.720 But like so much of our lives are online now, both personal and professional, you know, at

00:49:31.620 the government level and so on.

00:49:33.460 Yeah, I mean, it used to be that your major infrastructure concerns for malfeasance were

00:49:38.220 were basically like power grids, right?

00:49:40.500 I mean, you recall like 10, 15 years ago when all of New York went dark for a period of time

00:49:45.000 and there was just kind of vast chaos about that or like the rolling blackouts in California

00:49:50.260 at the beginning of the 2000s.

00:49:52.420 And that was like the center of the concern.

00:49:54.540 But now with everything being interconnected, there is a lot of opportunity for people out

00:50:00.220 there who don't have our best interests at heart.

00:50:02.720 I mean, this is one of the reasons why it's pretty important that we focus on these kind of

00:50:06.600 things from a federal government standpoint, because, you know, there are terrorism and

00:50:12.340 actors like Hamas and Hezbollah, Iran and others around the world who would love the opportunity

00:50:19.000 to do something to our infrastructure that would cause mass chaos in the United States.

00:50:23.060 And there's rumors now of the Russians trying to put nukes in space, you know, weapons in

00:50:29.520 space basically to target our satellites.

00:50:31.900 And so, yeah, you took out a satellite, you know, you could take down a lot of our tech

00:50:36.840 infrastructure in the United States.

00:50:38.640 Yeah.

00:50:39.640 Whether it's a problem with the tech or it's a problem with nukes in space, I just like

00:50:43.140 to know that Joe Biden's hand is on the wheel, that he is the person charged with keeping

00:50:48.960 us safe because I'm confident that nothing bad will happen between now and next January.

00:50:53.640 I mean, he didn't cure cancer.

00:50:55.700 Remember that?

00:50:56.740 Right.

00:50:57.000 How do you think?

00:50:57.660 How do you think he remembers his iPhone password?

00:51:00.520 Do you think he has one?

00:51:01.740 He can't.

00:51:02.460 It's got to be just the facial recognition.

00:51:04.200 That's it.

00:51:05.100 That's it.

00:51:05.740 Somebody opens it for him in the morning and then he just says facial recognition.

00:51:09.660 By the way, did you hear about the dog, the White House dog commander?

00:51:13.740 Yeah.

00:51:14.240 It's the worst dog in the world.

00:51:16.020 The worst dog ever.

00:51:17.180 So these people are totally heartless in the Biden administration.

00:51:20.420 Joe and Jill Biden, frankly, we knew that commander, their big, beautiful German shepherd

00:51:26.620 was very, very mean.

00:51:29.680 And it made news to the point where they had to actually move the dog out of the White House

00:51:36.260 to an undisclosed assignment, which like, is that the farm?

00:51:40.360 Was that like when my parents told me Bozo went to the farm?

00:51:44.160 Dog ran away.

00:51:45.720 Because he also bit some people.

00:51:47.280 Next thing I knew, I never saw him again.

00:51:48.620 Anyway, so commander finally got moved after all this public pressure.

00:51:53.540 But it turns out, thanks to a FOIA request that it was CNN, actually, I think that that

00:52:01.940 was requested it.

00:52:02.980 Somebody requested the documents and CNN reported on the results.

00:52:05.920 Yeah, it was from the U.S. Secret Service.

00:52:08.220 So what we found out was it was much worse than we even knew.

00:52:11.360 Commander had joined as a puppy.

00:52:13.400 He was, quote, removed from the White House last call to an undisclosed location.

00:52:17.660 And that's even worse.

00:52:19.380 Undisclosed location.

00:52:21.200 It's like they renditioned him to a black site.

00:52:25.780 Don't give one ton of them, Michael.

00:52:28.580 Okay, so he's been removed.

00:52:30.720 The reason he was removed is because he bit just U.S. Secret Service personnel.

00:52:36.320 This only covered them.

00:52:37.520 The FOIA request went to Secret Service only.

00:52:39.220 So this doesn't include the chefs in the White House or the, you know, maids.

00:52:43.320 At least 24 different incidents.

00:52:46.760 Two dozen bites.

00:52:49.820 An unnamed assistant special agent in charge of the Presidential Protection Division wrote

00:52:56.520 to the team in a June 2023 email warned the agents they must, quote, must be creative to

00:53:04.580 ensure our personal safety.

00:53:06.320 This is, this was being allowed, that the agency had to be creative to stay safe.

00:53:12.100 And it's, it's no joke.

00:53:13.780 Listen to this.

00:53:14.940 Dr. Jill, doctor, just to those of you not paying attention, this incident would have been

00:53:21.320 actually very helpful for her to actually be a doctor.

00:53:23.780 She said, here's what happened.

00:53:27.780 You may know that with a long e.

00:53:28.980 An unnamed, no, no.

00:53:31.740 I mean, a medical doctor could have saved this poor agent, but her PhD in education can't

00:53:36.400 do that.

00:53:37.280 An unnamed special agent was providing security coverage in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.

00:53:42.160 As the agent walked to a backyard security, security post, did not realize commander was

00:53:47.280 loose and off leash.

00:53:49.620 Can you imagine the terror?

00:53:50.420 These are like straight trained killers, these agents, but they know they're not allowed

00:53:54.900 to shoot commander.

00:53:56.200 So you just have to sit back and take it.

00:53:58.440 In the background, special agent, somebody heard the voice.

00:54:02.220 This is all redacted, which is why I'm not reading it.

00:54:04.300 Heard the voice of what believes to be FLOTUS, Dr. Jill Biden, yelling blank.

00:54:10.820 Commander ran toward the direction of something and bit the special agent in the left forearm,

00:54:18.000 causing a severe, deep, open wound.

00:54:21.600 As a result of the attack, a special agent started to lose a significant amount of blood

00:54:27.620 from their arm.

00:54:30.360 I'll give you another one.

00:54:31.960 Notable incident involving the president.

00:54:33.840 October 2, 2022, an agent, different agent, I think, was bitten on the forearm, definitely

00:54:40.360 a different incident, while holding the door open in the area between the West Wing and

00:54:44.880 the residence.

00:54:45.880 Commander and POTUS were entering the Palm Room through the West Colonnade.

00:54:49.540 Commander came in, first circled back.

00:54:53.160 He's like stalking.

00:54:54.600 Grabbed my left arm.

00:54:57.100 He then stood up and then back down.

00:55:00.060 He is literally my height standing, writes the agent.

00:55:05.260 My God.

00:55:06.700 The agent said in a description of the event that they were in shock that this incident

00:55:14.200 took place.

00:55:16.400 The Bidens have apologized to those who were bitten and sent flowers to some of them.

00:55:24.560 That's what you want.

00:55:25.620 Some of them.

00:55:26.000 Just a nice bouquet.

00:55:27.240 That'll take care of the arm.

00:55:28.360 You got to feel for these.

00:55:30.920 You got another one?

00:55:32.200 These guys are supposed to be looking out for threats, you know, like assassins and things

00:55:36.120 like that.

00:55:36.560 The threat is from within.

00:55:37.960 Their heads are constantly on a swivel.

00:55:40.360 Little do they know the real threat is at their feet.

00:55:42.620 I mean, I just keep thinking, you know, you always, after a president leaves, you hear

00:55:47.340 all kinds of stories from White House staff that have seen many presidents.

00:55:50.860 They all have favorites and there's like little quirks about it.

00:55:52.980 I guarantee you that this is the most mistreated staff in the face of history when it comes

00:55:59.360 to the White House.

00:56:00.040 Imagine just putting, wrapping your mind around, you're going to live in a house where people

00:56:06.340 work around you all the time.

00:56:08.800 And you're like, you know what?

00:56:09.920 What we're going to do is buy a Timberwolf.

00:56:12.440 Yeah.

00:56:12.960 We're not going to train him at all.

00:56:16.260 And then we're going to set him loose.

00:56:18.620 Exactly.

00:56:19.420 And what happens if we don't set him loose?

00:56:21.840 How do you get to 24?

00:56:23.020 But like, I can understand, you know, like four.

00:56:26.140 I think you can potentially understand like 10.

00:56:29.220 I don't know.

00:56:29.620 It's the White House.

00:56:30.200 I'm sure the dog is there to be protective.

00:56:33.140 So like, it's not going to be a little sweet.

00:56:36.340 Commander clearly saw.

00:56:38.240 He saw everything that Hunter is getting away with.

00:56:41.480 And he's like, you know, I'm going to find, by his example, my own way to act out.

00:56:48.900 Do you think the dog's on cocaine?

00:56:50.540 It's possible.

00:56:51.940 Cocaine dog.

00:56:55.140 Cocaine commander.

00:56:56.900 Yeah.

00:56:57.140 In related news, commander is now part of the Burisma board.

00:57:04.320 I don't like the sound of undisclosed location.

00:57:06.920 I'm not sure what that means.

00:57:08.980 Further updates to follow on the next FOIA request.

00:57:12.260 But yeah, that's the latest out of the White House.

00:57:15.260 However, there is real news out of the White House today, not involving the dog.

00:57:18.720 And that is President Biden is apparently scared shitless of the numbers on immigration

00:57:24.440 and how people think he's doing handling the job.

00:57:27.140 And has now realized he actually can do something about it, notwithstanding all those claims

00:57:31.580 we heard him make when the deal with the Republicans fell through.

00:57:35.460 And he was like, I need this bill.

00:57:37.180 I need Congress to act or I can't do anything.

00:57:39.460 Remember, in fact, if you don't, here he was back a couple of months ago.

00:57:43.160 Well, not even just in January and sought one.

00:57:48.600 I have to split up all I can do.

00:57:50.940 Give me the power.

00:57:52.140 I've asked for the very day I got it off.

00:57:54.720 Give me the border patrol.

00:57:56.580 Give me the people.

00:57:57.440 Give me the people to judge.

00:57:58.880 Give me the people who can stop this.

00:58:01.280 If that bill were the law today, I'd shut down the border right now and fix it quickly.

00:58:05.200 That's what he said.

00:58:07.360 And then also went on to say, I need that bill to do anything.

00:58:11.300 And now, per The New York Times, President Biden mulling plan that could restrict asylum

00:58:16.340 claims at the border.

00:58:18.340 He's considering doing it by executive action.

00:58:21.480 Without Congress, implementing many of the same things that President Trump implemented

00:58:28.500 back in 2018 when he tried to block a certain migration, including by enacting the so-called

00:58:35.920 Muslim ban, which Biden and the left criticized to no end and actually challenged him in court

00:58:42.660 all the way up to the Supreme Court over and said it was immoral.

00:58:45.940 And now he's considering implementing that same measure beyond Muslims, but to use that

00:58:52.780 same provision and some of the other provisions that failed in that border bill that fell apart,

00:58:59.080 like it would have a similar trigger for blocking asylum claims to new entrants.

00:59:03.780 It would allow him to shut down the border to new entrants if more than an average of 5,000

00:59:07.600 migrants per day tried to cross unlawfully in the course of a week or more than 8,500 tried

00:59:13.120 to cross on any given day, all of which he said he could not do.

00:59:18.880 And you tell me, this is obviously just, he's terrified.

00:59:23.440 He's actually paying attention to the polls now.

00:59:25.460 Yeah, well, I heard Biden say that if he had these authorities, he would have acted on his

00:59:30.580 first day as president of the United States.

00:59:32.720 Let me read to you what he did on his literal first day as president of the United States.

00:59:37.380 It's proclamation on the termination of emergency with respect to the southern border of the

00:59:42.360 United States and redirection of funds diverted to border wall construction.

00:59:46.660 That is January 20th, 2021, hours after he was sworn in.

00:59:51.240 It is the single most disingenuous thing in a White House that is absolutely full of disingenuous

00:59:58.460 political claims.

00:59:59.620 He doesn't care a lick about what's happening on the southern border.

01:00:03.260 In fact, it's by design.

01:00:04.760 That is what he said he would do.

01:00:06.300 And that is what he has done.

01:00:07.480 He removed all of the progress that president Trump had made, got rid of the remain in Mexico

01:00:13.460 policy and the title 42 and all of the rest of that, and then proceeded to embark on seeing

01:00:19.760 that we inevitably get to this catastrophic point.

01:00:23.500 Now he's got a political problem.

01:00:25.560 He doesn't care a lick about the actual problem.

01:00:28.200 What he cares a lot about is his 33% approval rating and the fact that this issue, maybe

01:00:33.520 more than anything else, is preventing a second term for Joe Biden.

01:00:38.060 So that's what this is about.

01:00:39.900 And in terms of what you read is incredible.

01:00:42.960 How you could stand there and say to the American people, if I had all of these things on day

01:00:48.460 one, I would have done, I would have secured the border when in fact he did the exact opposite

01:00:54.440 of that, not just on that, but then the remain in Mexico and everything else, it's just, it

01:00:58.960 blows your mind.

01:01:00.360 Kudos to you, Ashbrook, in actually doing the homework to pull it up, right?

01:01:03.860 To actually show us what he did.

01:01:05.920 Megan, it's way too little, too late.

01:01:08.180 And since he issued that proclamation, eight and a half million people have entered this

01:01:13.040 country illegally.

01:01:13.980 Do you know how many million people, eight and a half million is?

01:01:16.560 That's the same population of all five boroughs of New York City.

01:01:19.820 In this country, illegally, while Joe Biden was president, thanks to the proclamation that

01:01:25.040 he issued to open the border the day he was sworn in.

01:01:27.640 It's more than the population I read online of 36 states combined.

01:01:32.440 Like, yeah, it's a lot of people.

01:01:35.240 Yeah, maybe not combined, maybe just 36 states.

01:01:38.540 But it's like another country that's coming into our country.

01:01:42.140 Yeah, it is.

01:01:42.680 And it's a lot.

01:01:43.340 It's not everybody looking to make a better life for themselves and have a job in America.

01:01:47.680 There are people shipping in from China and from Yemen, walking through the Darien Gap

01:01:53.020 and are coming into this country specifically to do us harm.

01:01:56.800 That's a terrifying thought.

01:01:58.560 Well, it's too late.

01:01:59.600 It doesn't matter.

01:02:00.240 I don't care whether he puts all these measures in place.

01:02:02.140 He could do all the same stuff Trump did when Trump was president.

01:02:05.040 And it's too late.

01:02:06.560 The people know.

01:02:07.660 They know at this point it would just be a pander.

01:02:10.540 His heart isn't in it.

01:02:11.500 As soon as they reelect this guy, he's going to undo them all.

01:02:14.360 Because when he did the thing on day one, he said he wanted people to believe the United

01:02:19.240 States was, quote, more humane.

01:02:21.640 That's where his heart lies, not in protecting our borders.

01:02:26.160 Yeah.

01:02:26.320 And on a serious note, all of the day late and a dollar short political pandering at this

01:02:30.540 point is not going to bring back the people who lost children to fentanyl and crossed over

01:02:35.700 our southern border.

01:02:36.740 They're not going to bring back the lives of victims of sex trafficking that is rampant on

01:02:41.840 the southern border.

01:02:42.520 These are real experiences that people across this country have had in almost every community.

01:02:47.440 You will meet someone who has experienced this tragedy and he's directly responsible

01:02:52.080 for it.

01:02:53.720 Did you guys see over the weekend that the former CEO of YouTube, Susan Wojcicki, her son

01:03:00.780 died one pill?

01:03:03.080 He was at Berkeley.

01:03:03.900 Terrible.

01:03:04.540 Heartbreaking.

01:03:05.120 He was at Berkeley.

01:03:06.000 He took a pill.

01:03:06.980 I can't remember what he thought it was, but it was something that the kids today would

01:03:10.740 take, not thinking it was going to do anything more than, you know, affect him temporarily.

01:03:17.000 And it hasn't been confirmed.

01:03:18.360 At least I haven't checked in a couple of days that it was fentanyl, but, you know, it's

01:03:22.140 probably fentanyl.

01:03:22.980 You know, I mean, that's what happened.

01:03:23.720 That's that's how those one pills do kill.

01:03:25.340 They get laced with fentanyl.

01:03:26.620 The Chinese are pushing it in.

01:03:28.240 The Mexican drug cartels are making the pills.

01:03:30.440 They're farming them out.

01:03:31.500 They push them on social media.

01:03:32.800 We saw that at the testimonials that all these parents were giving when the CEOs showed up

01:03:39.280 on Capitol Hill of Facebook and, you know, all those.

01:03:42.140 They order it on Snapchat.

01:03:44.340 They ordered on Meta, whatever.

01:03:46.600 And they take the one pill thinking it's an Ambien or it's an Adderall and or like a

01:03:53.260 Valium, whatever.

01:03:54.680 It's laced with fentanyl and they die.

01:03:56.260 I mean, it can happen to anybody, rich, poor.

01:03:58.440 It doesn't matter.

01:04:00.080 And so you're right.

01:04:00.920 This is directly linked.

01:04:01.880 It's not entirely caused by our open border, but for sure, this is a massive problem connected

01:04:06.300 to it.

01:04:07.120 And there's absolutely no willingness to do anything unless it's going to help Joe Biden.

01:04:10.920 He's he cares about him, about his hide, but not so much about your children's.

01:04:16.540 That's that's exactly right.

01:04:17.820 That's exactly right.

01:04:18.820 And it's it's so sad to think about in college kids.

01:04:21.760 I mean, look, people are uniquely susceptible to this kind of thing.

01:04:24.260 We all went to college.

01:04:25.080 I'm sure this doesn't apply to Megan, who was captain of the math team, I'm sure, during

01:04:30.160 her experience.

01:04:32.160 But, you know, I was rather buttoned up, though, not that not that.

01:04:36.040 No, for the rest of us.

01:04:37.460 Look, I mean, most people in a college experience, there's there are recreational drug use that

01:04:42.200 happens.

01:04:42.700 And to think now you're at a day and age where one pill that you think was an Ambien kills

01:04:49.280 kids.

01:04:50.320 I mean, that is that's a truly, genuinely scary crisis.

01:04:53.660 I do not know.

01:04:54.540 And I cannot figure out for the life of me why this hasn't become the national emergency.

01:04:58.860 It very well deserves to be.

01:05:00.540 It shouldn't if you listen to the experts on it, there's a group called Fentanyl Fathers

01:05:04.720 that's led by this guy whose whose son died of fentanyl overdose.

01:05:08.160 And he's going into schools all over the country and is basically making the case that you should

01:05:12.500 have Narcan in every home in every place, just like you would have a fire extinguisher.

01:05:17.420 Everybody has a fire extinguisher because they know when a fire starts, they put it out.

01:05:20.220 Narcan can act the same.

01:05:23.140 And so it seems pretty important that people start adopting that.

01:05:26.240 Right.

01:05:26.980 I mean, honestly, all all I mean, our condolences go to Susan and her entire family there that

01:05:32.120 it's just too awful to even think about.

01:05:35.060 All you can do is keep saying to your kids over and over and over.

01:05:38.200 One pill can kill.

01:05:39.040 Don't do drugs.

01:05:39.760 Please don't do drugs.

01:05:40.720 Please, please, please.

01:05:42.020 I mean, I say to, you know, my kids are too young to be even thinking about any of this.

01:05:45.940 But like the other thing is, like, hold your own beer, like don't have somebody pour

01:05:49.960 you a drink in a fraternity.

01:05:51.600 You have to be so careful, especially as a young woman.

01:05:54.080 There's just so much.

01:05:55.200 So there's so many risks out there and we can't protect them against all of it.

01:05:58.300 But this one, this one, we actually can do something to try.

01:06:03.320 Right.

01:06:03.660 We can we can actually do something about shutting down the border, trying to limit the flow of

01:06:08.180 illegal drugs like fentanyl, stopping even the Americans who come across the southern

01:06:12.640 border with fentanyl, trying to make money off of our young people.

01:06:16.840 But we're not we're not doing enough.

01:06:18.780 That's obvious.

01:06:19.360 OK, on the subject of politics, we mentioned before that, you know, the number twos in this

01:06:24.300 election could be unusually important, given Joe Biden's age and Donald Trump's age and

01:06:29.160 just, you know, erratic nature.

01:06:31.960 Let's say his erratic nature.

01:06:34.200 Who that's going to be, we still don't know.

01:06:36.020 But Ron DeSantis back in the news today as having come out to say.

01:06:41.780 To quote Charlie Bucket after four tickets had gone and there was just one left, just

01:06:48.640 in case you're wondering whether it will be me, it won't be.

01:06:51.420 It won't be.

01:06:52.080 He said he's not he meant what he said during the campaign.

01:07:00.560 He's not into being the number two and he is not going to be Trump's VP, even though

01:07:05.520 Trump had mentioned him as a possibility.

01:07:07.880 And the reason I think this is interesting, guys, you tell me is because apparently he

01:07:12.680 said this on a phone call with backers of his presidential bid, you know, the unsuccessful

01:07:17.520 one, the one that has been suspended.

01:07:20.300 And one of the guys on the call or maybe gals that just described as one Republican on the

01:07:25.840 call.

01:07:26.140 This is from NBC said, I'm wondering whether after that call he's keeping his options open

01:07:33.480 for 2024.

01:07:35.340 Quote, the timing of this ostensible thank you call to influential state level Republicans,

01:07:41.280 the DeSantis campaign recruited to be delegates to the 2024 convention is odd.

01:07:46.580 A month ago, sure.

01:07:47.980 But now it really seems like the governor is trying to keep the door open in the event something

01:07:52.020 happens between now and Milwaukee, meaning the August convention.

01:07:56.340 So what do you guys think?

01:07:57.900 Yeah, well, look, it's not the weirdest thing in the entire world.

01:08:00.740 I mean, we talked a little bit about this this week as it pertains to Nikki Haley.

01:08:05.480 And obviously she's going into her home state of South Carolina and it's said that she's

01:08:09.580 going beyond a Super Tuesday.

01:08:10.920 And the question is like, well, why?

01:08:12.380 I mean, you're down 25, 30 points.

01:08:14.560 I don't think the outcome of any of these particular elections is in doubt by any stretch of the

01:08:18.980 imagination.

01:08:19.820 Why would you stay in?

01:08:20.840 Well, I think it's the same reason why this person speculating about Ron DeSantis this year

01:08:25.360 is because we live in the most dynamic political atmosphere that this country has ever seen.

01:08:29.960 Every day is a brand new day and anything can happen.

01:08:33.380 And you've got to ask Fannie to ask Fannie about that.

01:08:38.060 But we got two octogenarians who are going to be on the ticket here.

01:08:43.000 And, you know, if you if you were able to get a couple of delegates, as Nikki Haley appears

01:08:48.460 to be trying to do, if something weird happens, God forbid, they got to go through you to find

01:08:54.260 a nominee, right?

01:08:55.420 Because you actually have some delegates.

01:08:57.500 So it's not the dumbest strategy in the world to keep options open.

01:09:01.360 I think it probably they're all realistic about that not happening.

01:09:05.640 But I'm not as surprised, I think, as a lot of people are.

01:09:10.280 I don't know what makes what I don't think Nikki Haley would be the number two.

01:09:13.860 I think if Trump bowed out or got thrown in jail or something, she wouldn't be second

01:09:19.620 lady in waiting.

01:09:20.860 It'd probably be DeSantis, don't you think?

01:09:22.560 Like the fact that he got out a state or two before she did doesn't make her next in line.

01:09:28.020 It just means she failed to accept reality at a later date.

01:09:32.900 Yeah.

01:09:33.060 And I wasn't even thinking about this as it pertains to VP.

01:09:36.020 I mean, I was thinking about top of the ticket, right?

01:09:38.180 No, but that's what I'm talking about, too.

01:09:39.400 I'm saying if Trump bails for whatever reason, she's not she's not next in line just because

01:09:44.980 she decided to quit later than the others.

01:09:48.280 No, but my point is, is that if she had a couple of delegates, right?

01:09:51.360 I mean, it's not it's not an unforeseen possibility in some of these states that don't have winner

01:09:55.480 take all that she could pick up a handful of delegates.

01:09:58.120 And if you go to a process at an RNC convention where delegates delegates are awarded, unless

01:10:03.760 you release them, are pertinent to the conversation.

01:10:06.860 Right.

01:10:07.300 And so at that point, you'd have to figure out if there's one candidate is still in the

01:10:11.700 race that has delegates awarded to them.

01:10:13.800 They're going to be a part of that conversation.

01:10:15.420 And that was kind of the only thing I was making.

01:10:17.060 I agree a part of, but I just think I don't think Trump's going anywhere, but you just

01:10:21.300 never know as you point out.

01:10:22.480 Oh, I agree with that.

01:10:23.080 I agree with that.

01:10:24.640 Yeah.

01:10:24.960 So I don't disagree that Ron DeSantis probably does want to keep his options open just, you

01:10:29.480 know, just in case.

01:10:30.240 I will say this.

01:10:30.960 Trump advisor Chris Lasavita responded on X to the story with the following.

01:10:35.460 Chicken fingers and pudding cups is what you will be remembered for, you sad little

01:10:38.880 man.

01:10:42.180 Lasavita never mints his words.

01:10:44.640 No, he's pretty straight shooter.

01:10:45.880 That's right to the point.

01:10:48.580 They know how to craft an image, don't they?

01:10:51.500 So speaking of Nikki Haley, her husband, who is active duty military and I think in Djibouti,

01:10:58.980 right?

01:10:59.220 He's been in Djibouti for the past couple of years or a year.

01:11:03.240 She started talking about him on Tuesday in South Carolina.

01:11:08.100 And now he was kind of brought up recently because Trump was like, where's the husband?

01:11:13.760 Where is he?

01:11:14.360 Why isn't he around?

01:11:16.580 And then the media, you know, yeah, because they care so deeply about Nikki Haley and about

01:11:22.120 our military, decided to pretend to be offended.

01:11:25.120 Like he knows very well where the husband is.

01:11:28.060 He's deployed.

01:11:29.420 How dare he?

01:11:30.360 I mean, it wasn't a nice comment by Trump, but it's like it's fun to watch the media try

01:11:33.780 to, you know, pick its things that it gets outraged over.

01:11:36.420 Like, please.

01:11:36.960 Um, and then Nikki Haley saw an opportunity cause right.

01:11:41.520 It kind of made her look like the dutiful wife and my husband's deployed and now I'm

01:11:45.460 under attack.

01:11:46.580 And so she's been bringing him up a little bit more.

01:11:48.640 And she had the following moment, which Sonny Hostin, I'm going to give you the preview into

01:11:54.960 the second clip did not buy for one minute.

01:11:58.860 So this is your chance to say whether for once you agree with Sonny Hostin or not.

01:12:06.500 Was this moment disingenuous?

01:12:09.180 Watch Nikki Haley.

01:12:10.080 Sorry.

01:12:10.260 As I prepare for what lies ahead, Michael is at the forefront of my mind.

01:12:22.500 I wish Michael was here today and I wish our children and I could see him tonight, but we can't.

01:12:33.560 Okay.

01:12:34.680 Here is the reaction over on the view.

01:12:37.540 I didn't feel that it was authentic and I didn't trust it.

01:12:42.120 Well, I thought it was a real moment because I think what you think that she misses her husband.

01:12:47.000 I guess I have a dark heart.

01:12:48.360 Yeah, you do.

01:12:49.140 Her approval ratings went up when her husband was attacked and she stood up for him.

01:12:55.580 And so I read into that moment.

01:12:58.520 If I now throw in a little tear, my approval ratings will go up again.

01:13:04.540 It's just her approval rating.

01:13:06.600 Her approval ratings went up.

01:13:08.280 She's watching snap polls.

01:13:10.140 She's tracking Nikki's favorables.

01:13:12.960 Noted political operative Sonny Hostin.

01:13:15.740 It's happened before.

01:13:17.700 Do you remember Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire?

01:13:20.280 Oh, yeah.

01:13:20.780 I just really think.

01:13:21.880 I just really think.

01:13:23.560 Remember?

01:13:24.120 She actually managed to produce not an actual tear.

01:13:27.180 Let's be honest.

01:13:28.080 It's Hillary Clinton.

01:13:28.920 But like close.

01:13:30.420 Right.

01:13:30.720 Megan, I'm just saying, if we're talking about being disingenuous, the idea that Sonny

01:13:34.980 Hostin's getting overnights in her polling from some, like it's preposterous.

01:13:40.100 Okay.

01:13:40.360 It's absolutely preposterous.

01:13:41.580 And I will say this to just try to contextualize a little bit about that Nikki Haley.

01:13:46.900 And I didn't talk to anyone in this campaign about it, but I've been a part of a lot of

01:13:50.720 campaigns.

01:13:51.560 And you get to a point where you've run ragged.

01:13:54.780 And you've gone months on months on the road.

01:13:57.580 You are spending all of your time either on the phone or in front of people.

01:14:01.080 And there are moments where you become more emotional when you think about family and

01:14:06.260 things like that.

01:14:06.940 It's just a part of the process.

01:14:08.360 There's not a single candidate.

01:14:09.600 And I mean that sincerely.

01:14:10.820 There's not a single candidate who's ever run for president or like Senate that doesn't

01:14:15.280 have that moment at some point.

01:14:16.980 Now, you don't always want to have that on camera, but I think that could be what you're

01:14:20.700 looking at.

01:14:21.120 Well, because every single day you wake up and you say to yourself, like, is this worth

01:14:25.820 it?

01:14:26.340 Yeah.

01:14:26.600 You know?

01:14:26.900 And the answer has to be yes, every single day.

01:14:29.360 When you're running for president, that is a grueling, grueling, grueling thing to

01:14:34.220 do.

01:14:34.620 So, I mean, I think it's inevitable, you know, being in this race as long as she has, facing

01:14:39.460 the long odds that she is, that we'd probably see something like this.

01:14:43.640 But like, I mean, who is Sonny Hostins to be commenting on this?

01:14:48.400 I mean, what an ugly, ugly thing to say.

01:14:50.980 You know?

01:14:51.340 I just find those people-

01:14:51.960 I like that she owns her dark heart.

01:14:53.500 Yeah.

01:14:53.820 Well, no, I appreciate that.

01:14:55.360 She knows herself pretty well because it's clearly true.

01:14:57.440 So, I think that's a collection that they've got on that show.

01:15:02.600 You would know more than I do about it.

01:15:04.560 They seem like the worst people in the world.

01:15:06.340 They're just so-

01:15:07.440 Oh, don't they?

01:15:08.720 So interesting.

01:15:09.400 You should use that phrase because I have someone else for you to consider.

01:15:12.720 I have somebody else in the running.

01:15:14.260 Katie Turr was over on MSNBC commenting on the Trump massive judgment from Judge N. Garan.

01:15:20.920 It's going to wind up being $450 million that he owes, if you had the interest in, in this

01:15:25.900 New York civil fraud case against the Trump organization.

01:15:29.280 And when the news broke, she was raising some questions about whether this number is

01:15:34.000 fair, whether the verdict is fair.

01:15:35.560 You know, like you might do if you were like a reporter, just covering a story.

01:15:39.460 Well, she used to date, a testament to her terrible judgment, at least at one point in

01:15:44.080 her life, Keith Olbermann.

01:15:46.820 Oh, my God.

01:15:47.720 The complete prick that he is and has always been.

01:15:51.520 He decided to go on his little podcast and react as follows.

01:15:56.080 I got a text from her at 9.14 p.m. on December 11th, 2016.

01:16:02.980 This is called having the receipts.

01:16:05.000 Trump had won.

01:16:06.100 Our nightmare had begun.

01:16:07.560 And Katie had gotten a book deal about her experience.

01:16:11.120 Then she switched topics.

01:16:12.980 Quote, want to write this book?

01:16:15.960 I wrote back at 5.32.

01:16:18.120 What?

01:16:18.860 You're not serious.

01:16:19.920 How would that work?

01:16:21.340 That's when she phoned.

01:16:22.880 She was about to give the advance money back to the publisher.

01:16:25.580 I can't write a book.

01:16:26.920 I'm like 50,000 words short, and it's terrible.

01:16:29.620 I'll give you half the money.

01:16:30.780 I'll give you more than half the money.

01:16:32.760 I pointed out to her that I had written or rewritten dozens of her stories for NBC News

01:16:37.320 and MSNBC, and it was not a question of the money.

01:16:41.480 It was a question of what we could get away with.

01:16:44.400 Each time I wrote or rewrote in her name for NBC, it was a fireable offense for her,

01:16:50.060 but one that nobody would ever think to look for, even though there is necessarily an email

01:16:54.840 trail 10 miles long.

01:16:56.120 But a book, a book about Trump in my writing style, not hers, in print, I have a fairly

01:17:03.440 distinct writing style, and I'm not good at hiding it.

01:17:07.220 Somebody would notice.

01:17:11.280 Wow.

01:17:11.760 Such a bastard.

01:17:13.220 Such a bastard.

01:17:15.440 This isn't the first time he's done this to her.

01:17:17.440 He continues to raise this story and other stories that he thinks will reflect badly on

01:17:23.580 Katie Tur, who broke his heart or something, because he is a bitter, bitter man who continues

01:17:31.360 to do this to his ex, who was his live-in love for, I think, a period of years.

01:17:36.760 He's a sick person.

01:17:39.900 I mean, he talks about his distinctive writing style.

01:17:43.120 Yeah, it's a special italicis called asshole.

01:17:46.540 That's what it is.

01:17:48.620 It's very distinctive.

01:17:50.640 Unmistakable.

01:17:51.340 I just feel bad for Keith that he's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content

01:17:55.320 for his show, that he's digging up text messages.

01:17:58.140 Text girlfriends?

01:17:58.780 Yeah.

01:17:59.840 From eight years ago.

01:18:02.040 Jeez, what a sad little life.

01:18:03.860 And by the way, what did she say that was so awful?

01:18:07.420 Like, let's find out.

01:18:08.220 What set him off?

01:18:09.000 That he needed to go off on her.

01:18:10.420 Like, let's listen to it.

01:18:11.100 We actually have a cut.

01:18:11.900 Watch.

01:18:13.480 In the past, it has only been used to ban someone doing business when it's been shown

01:18:19.100 that somebody was hurt.

01:18:21.060 Is this fair to go after Donald Trump like this in this environment?

01:18:26.600 Get out of here.

01:18:27.460 That's what set him off?

01:18:29.240 That's just a normal question.

01:18:30.740 Are you kidding me?

01:18:31.540 That's the thing that set him off?

01:18:33.760 No, that's it.

01:18:35.380 I was waiting for the two scholars she was asking the question for.

01:18:42.140 I'm sure they were going to exonerate Trump in the next sentence.

01:18:45.280 Let's take another look.

01:18:46.300 Yes.

01:18:46.700 You raised a good point.

01:18:47.540 They jumped out at me, too.

01:18:48.820 Can we take another look at that control room?

01:18:51.160 Could we please just take one more look at that clip?

01:18:54.040 Let's see the panelists.

01:18:54.980 In the past, it has only been used to ban someone doing business when it's been shown that somebody

01:19:02.080 was hurt.

01:19:03.040 Is this fair to go after Donald Trump like this in this environment?

01:19:06.880 Yeah.

01:19:07.820 Google Gemini.

01:19:09.700 Google Gemini.

01:19:10.580 Show me Don King.

01:19:11.540 Yeah.

01:19:11.860 Oh, gee, I wonder what the panelists are going to say.

01:19:22.300 Hmm.

01:19:24.420 Also, he got fired from MSNBC, right?

01:19:28.180 Like, what a self-own that he's like, I'm just sitting around daytime watching the programs

01:19:35.100 I got fired from.

01:19:37.580 Couldn't help but notice there was a question that was asked from panelists that I disagree

01:19:42.280 with.

01:19:43.120 What a jerk.

01:19:43.860 Well, she went on.

01:19:45.400 She married somebody else.

01:19:46.540 He's also in news.

01:19:48.020 I think she's having a lovely life.

01:19:49.720 He's this unmarried, no children, no friends, bitter, bitter man who just sits there and waits

01:19:58.760 for the mildest of fair coverage to cast his meanest barbs at this former person with whom

01:20:06.760 he lived for, count them, three years, fellas, three years.

01:20:11.560 The moral of this story is do not date Keith Olbermann, for the love of God.

01:20:19.400 Whatever you're going through, stop.

01:20:22.360 Whatever you're going through.

01:20:24.180 It's not worth it.

01:20:25.780 Being alone is not that bad.

01:20:27.900 It's not that bad.

01:20:29.240 You can have plenty of fun.

01:20:31.200 We did a story yesterday.

01:20:32.760 There's some group, now they're being federally prosecuted, so it didn't wind up good.

01:20:36.460 But they had a company called Orgasm Inc., and for $36,000 a year, they could show you

01:20:42.900 how to have an orgasm.

01:20:45.180 I'm saying I would rather pay that than date him.

01:20:48.240 Name your price.

01:20:49.780 Self-owning again.

01:20:51.800 It's like, I know nobody's ever had one of these, so I've generated some kind of tip

01:20:56.280 guy.

01:20:58.080 They're going to be selling for a low, low price of $19.99.

01:21:01.020 Oh my God.

01:21:02.300 We're definitely doing an in-depth story on this whole thing.

01:21:04.900 I'm absolutely loving that entire story.

01:21:08.280 Okay.

01:21:08.580 Debbie Murphy, Canadian Debbie, tells me these women did not directly answer the question.

01:21:13.900 One was, let's see, former New York assistant, what, assistant AG?

01:21:18.440 Yeah.

01:21:18.680 Tristan Snell answered and said, the legal standard is whether there was a tendency to deceive.

01:21:23.980 That's what it is.

01:21:24.920 And the legislature in New York made a public policy choice to say that that was an important

01:21:29.000 weapon for the AG's office to have to vindicate the public good in this situation.

01:21:33.660 You nailed it.

01:21:34.560 She's against Trump.

01:21:35.780 Yeah.

01:21:36.960 Shocker.

01:21:37.420 A lot of vindication going on.

01:21:39.480 By the way, on that thing, did you see Tish James out there saying, if necessary, she's

01:21:42.840 going to seize Trump's assets in New York to pay this judgment?

01:21:45.540 He's got, I think, just a couple more days to either put up the money.

01:21:49.860 He's asked for a longer time to file an appeal or figure out what they're going to do.

01:21:53.000 I don't know that he's going to get it, but he's going to have to put up hundreds

01:21:55.760 of millions of dollars within the next couple of days, and she says if he doesn't, she's

01:22:00.120 going to start seizing assets, potentially an asset he has downtown, maybe around the

01:22:04.060 Wall Street area, maybe Trump Tower.

01:22:07.440 I mean, if that shit starts happening, you guys, I know people are kind of like over the

01:22:13.060 Trump drama.

01:22:14.000 It's all been factored into the vote counts and the polls, but I just feel like even the

01:22:20.440 average person could see how ridiculous that is.

01:22:23.600 But I don't know.

01:22:24.180 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:22:24.620 No, I think they do, and so much so that I read reports this week that other New York

01:22:30.580 officials were running around trying to reassure other investors in New York properties and

01:22:35.580 things like that, that this was not going to happen to them, right?

01:22:39.140 It's an admission by fact that this is an extrajudicial proceeding, that this is a political

01:22:48.780 targeting, which is clear.

01:22:50.680 Look, I didn't sit through the entire hearing.

01:22:52.460 I don't know what the facts are, but I do know this.

01:22:55.720 It's happened too many times in New York.

01:22:58.680 It's happening in Georgia.

01:23:00.660 I mean, to say what you will of the federal cases, let's just set those aside for a second.

01:23:04.660 What's happening in state courts around this country is a genuine problem that was funded

01:23:10.340 by George Soros over a series of years with prosecutors that ultimately end up being judges.

01:23:17.140 There is a crisis happening in every one of these metropolitan areas where you've got people that

01:23:24.520 are taking out political vendettas under the guise of lawmaking.

01:23:29.100 And that's ridiculous.

01:23:30.140 And I love the idea that, you know, the state legislature made a policy preference to protect

01:23:36.340 the people of the state, ensure their confidence in the legal system.

01:23:39.840 It's like, you talk to your average New Yorker, you think they care more about, you know,

01:23:42.800 the crime that they're seeing in their street or like whether a bank was, you know, gave too

01:23:48.220 good of loan terms to Donald Trump, a loan in which he repaid.

01:23:51.640 You know what I mean?

01:23:52.520 Like it's, it's, it's insane.

01:23:54.380 Totally nuts.

01:23:55.080 Yeah.

01:23:55.420 Here she is, by the way, here's Tish James saying it was to ABC.

01:23:59.420 Watch.

01:24:00.840 If he does not have funds to pay off the judgment, then we will seek, you know, judgment enforcement

01:24:08.000 mechanisms in court and we will ask the judge to seize his assets.

01:24:13.220 So financial frauds are not victimless crimes.

01:24:16.300 He engaged in this massive amount of fraud and it wasn't just a simple mistake, a slight

01:24:22.180 oversight.

01:24:22.860 The variations were wildly exaggerated and the extent of the fraud was staggering.

01:24:28.500 Trump said the penalty against him would drive other businesses out of New York.

01:24:33.040 And last I checked, tourism is up and Wall Street is doing just fine.

01:24:39.880 Does she always talk like she's on NPR?

01:24:42.420 Yeah.

01:24:43.580 It seems like a new.

01:24:44.760 I thought, I thought I was listening to all things considered.

01:24:50.400 It is so true.

01:24:52.040 I can't stand that sound on NPR.

01:24:53.520 I really, I like, I'm trying to get my morning news.

01:24:54.940 I go to the left, I go to the right, listen to NPR.

01:24:56.600 I feel like they're coming on to me every morning.

01:24:58.360 Like, just stop it.

01:24:59.500 They can get jobs at Orgasm Inc.

01:25:04.580 That's because part of the 12 step program that they lay out.

01:25:07.520 It's heavy NPR.

01:25:08.660 Well, she also said, we're prepared to make sure that the judgment is paid to New Yorkers.

01:25:17.420 And yes, I look at 40 Wall Street each and every day.

01:25:21.580 By the way, to your point, there's been, they went after his company criminally in this, like a couple of years ago.

01:25:27.600 Then they came after them civilly in this case with this, you know, nearly half a billion dollar judgment.

01:25:35.000 They changed the law in New York state so that E. Jean Carroll could bring this lawsuit accusing him of sexual assault and then ultimately defamation.

01:25:44.420 She brought that case and she brought another case resulting in an $83 million judgment.

01:25:49.200 That's all before we get to the criminal case that's going to start March against him with, you know, on this Stormy Daniels hush money.

01:25:57.200 I mean, it's, that's five just in the past few years against Trump and his organization in New York state alone, alone.

01:26:05.300 And that's why I like, that's why I have zero empathy for Fannie Willis.

01:26:09.160 I hope somebody's looking into Alvin Bragg too.

01:26:11.580 I really, I hope they're looking into Judge Engeron.

01:26:13.560 You guys want to play by these rules?

01:26:15.900 Let's play.

01:26:16.780 Let's do it.

01:26:17.680 How does it work out for everybody?

01:26:19.600 Yeah, I think that's well said.

01:26:21.520 It's also important to know that this is not unique to Donald Trump.

01:26:24.680 It is in this current era because he is target A1A and all of the liberal left wants to get him no matter what.

01:26:31.640 But this is something that has been happening over a period of time in United States where we've had completely Democrat progressive run judicial systems in local governments where the choice you have as a business owner or somebody who just resides is you either shut up and play along or we come after you in some way, right?

01:26:51.740 I mean, you remember the conservative donors that were targeted by the IRS, right?

01:26:56.520 The releases of tax forms.

01:26:59.320 There's a mayor in Illinois I read this week who was shaking down people for contributions and then she would cancel their business license if they didn't pony up.

01:27:09.200 I mean, this has been a tool of the left that has been amongst the most disgusting things.

01:27:15.420 But it's been happening.

01:27:17.320 It's just now that everybody's getting up to speed.

01:27:19.380 And where has it left them?

01:27:21.420 After everything that they're doing up to this point, Trump has leads in multiple swing states.

01:27:28.660 It's because regular Americans know when people are trying to manipulate them and they don't like it.

01:27:34.200 And maybe things change.

01:27:35.700 Maybe the federal trial changes people's opinions.

01:27:38.980 But right now, she looks an awful lot like Trump's number one surrogate, not like the person who's trying to bring him down.

01:27:44.820 All right. Now, stand by.

01:27:48.520 We're going to take a quick break, but as we go to break, I'll give you this from Charles C.W. Cook of National Review.

01:27:53.220 In Google Gemini's defense, I just asked it to show me a photo of the best Supreme Court justice, and it generated a picture of a black guy.

01:28:03.760 Well done.

01:28:04.660 All right. The fellas from Ruthless, stay with us.

01:28:07.180 One more block together.

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01:29:12.240 So the New York City dance team, NYPD ladies, have decided to burn off some of the stress from the job by dancing together.

01:29:23.160 And there's so many angles to the story.

01:29:25.100 I don't even know where to begin.

01:29:26.220 But I'll just give you a flavor for how it looks.

01:29:28.740 And then we can talk about the controversy that ensued.

01:29:31.780 Watch.

01:29:32.040 Okay, you get the gist of it.

01:29:58.540 Make it stop.

01:29:59.420 Oh, my God.

01:30:02.040 Holmes' face.

01:30:05.380 It looks genuinely concerned.

01:30:09.380 Who's that?

01:30:10.400 Who's that?

01:30:11.640 Yeah.

01:30:12.340 So there are, there's a lot of thoughts about this.

01:30:15.760 And they started taking a lot of hits for this.

01:30:18.900 Some people thought they should be out policing.

01:30:20.700 Some people thought that we're spending too much on cops.

01:30:25.520 Basically, the NYPD responded by saying that they do this on their own time.

01:30:29.000 It's their form of stress release, you know, relief.

01:30:32.920 Nothing, no program was cut to fund this.

01:30:36.180 It's their own private project.

01:30:37.700 I will tell you this.

01:30:39.060 My problem with it is false.

01:30:41.780 And I'm all for like, you know, exercise and burning off stress.

01:30:45.400 But some of these women look very out of shape.

01:30:50.860 And I'm just saying, it plays right into.

01:30:53.320 Yeah, I'm saying it.

01:30:55.740 It plays right into a pre-existing problem with the police force, not just in New York City, but in many cities across America post-George Floyd.

01:31:05.020 We cannot get basically fit people to want to join policing.

01:31:12.060 And I will tell you, it just so happens I just had, I'm not going to say it was, but it was an NYPD officer pulled me aside before this video to say that this is a massive problem.

01:31:23.860 They're experiencing with overweight and, in some cases, obese cops, in particular women, but it can go both ways, who can't even chase after the criminals they're trying to arrest.

01:31:36.340 We have lowered the standards so much that we're actually missing arrests and bad guys.

01:31:43.380 And I actually looked into it.

01:31:45.000 And sure enough, it's true.

01:31:46.400 First of all, in 2022, amid a wave of retirements, that's the left's fault.

01:31:53.540 They, in NYPD, they replaced a faux six-foot wall inside the police academy gym with a chain link fence.

01:32:00.500 Hell, even I could climb that.

01:32:02.500 You stick your foot in the thing.

01:32:03.800 We all get it.

01:32:05.220 Here it is.

01:32:05.940 Look, look, look.

01:32:07.880 This is a chain link.

01:32:09.460 No, no, no, no, no.

01:32:11.200 Come on.

01:32:12.660 That's not the same.

01:32:14.980 This is ridiculous.

01:32:16.400 Why did it take two tries to get over that?

01:32:19.640 This is the problem.

01:32:21.200 And secondly, then they scrapped the timed 1.5-mile run for new recruits that you used to have to do, saying they hoped more women would make the cut.

01:32:32.640 And sure enough, they did.

01:32:34.180 And their explanation was, no cop on patrol ever has to run a mile and a half.

01:32:38.300 No one's chasing anyone a mile and a half.

01:32:40.420 So my problem is, it's like, all right, dance all you want, but just, like, get in shape.

01:32:45.140 And, like, you shouldn't have been admitted to the police department if you can't fit into, like, the standard uniform and perform basic fitness tests, male or female.

01:32:55.480 This is a problem.

01:32:56.300 And it's not politically incorrect to talk about it.

01:32:59.820 So there.

01:33:00.080 I'm glad that you started with your observations and not ours.

01:33:06.700 On the policing front, I think it's two things.

01:33:12.800 Obviously, there's a diversity requirement with some of these forces where it makes no sense.

01:33:17.800 I mean, you want cops and firefighters, first responders, everybody to be able to do the job to the best of their ability or they shouldn't be there in the first place.

01:33:24.960 But the other side of this coin is what the left has done by making policing impossible is take an awful lot of people who are very interested in becoming part of our law enforcement community and saying, no, thanks.

01:33:37.660 I'm not going to do that.

01:33:39.500 I'll go back to the military.

01:33:41.400 I'll go in private security.

01:33:43.600 I'll go do a bunch of different things because if I so much as arrest somebody and look at them weird, I'm going to be brought up on trial.

01:33:49.980 Right. And this is part of the downstream effect that we've had since the George Floyd incident in 2020, where policing itself is very difficult to find people that to recruit that are qualified to do the job.

01:34:03.520 Now, the ones that are there, by and large, are terrific.

01:34:06.100 But again, you look at something like that and it seems like standards maybe have slipped a bit.

01:34:11.720 But yeah, we found video.

01:34:14.180 Look at this video out of Chicago where there were four female cops trying to arrest one guy, even though they outnumbered him.

01:34:21.580 Look at this. He got away.

01:34:23.180 Look, there's four female cops.

01:34:25.640 One guy, he flicks them off with very little trouble.

01:34:29.820 He ran. He got away from him.

01:34:31.620 Like, I'm sorry. I'm all for, you know, if you're fit, there are some women who are just crushers and they're strong and they're tough.

01:34:38.680 I'm sure they could do the job better than some out of shape men, but it seems to be going the other way in too many instances.

01:34:45.000 And I say this humbly, my fellow women, I went, I'm secretly a Marine.

01:34:50.000 You may not know this about me, but I, I, I did Marine camp training for one weekend at Camp Lejeune for a story.

01:34:54.900 And look at me trying to get over the wall.

01:34:56.760 Look at this.

01:34:58.820 Yeah, no, it was a no.

01:35:01.200 It was impossible.

01:35:02.440 It was so hard.

01:35:03.680 Look, did the guy have to try to look right next to you to try to show you up?

01:35:09.460 Yeah, he was trying to encourage me.

01:35:11.960 There he is.

01:35:13.080 I couldn't do it, but I am a podcaster, a journalist, and somebody who sits around all day.

01:35:19.600 I don't, I'm not trying to arrest people.

01:35:21.960 I'm pretty sure you could make smug down.

01:35:24.320 I know.

01:35:24.600 I'm pretty sure.

01:35:25.380 Well, I mean, obviously.

01:35:26.260 The best is AOC.

01:35:28.920 She's outraged over this.

01:35:29.980 Meanwhile, she is responsible for defunding the police in the first place.

01:35:33.480 Look in the mirror.

01:35:34.640 Look in the mirror if you want to know the source of this problem.

01:35:36.700 Ladies, in summary, continue getting in shape.

01:35:40.480 I think we should bring back the wall.

01:35:42.340 I think we should bring back the run.

01:35:43.820 And I actually think we should be adding a few more requirements, paying our cops better,

01:35:48.160 giving them better benefits, lifting them up rhetorically and in spirit so that they can

01:35:53.380 go out there and do the job that we need them to do instead of people like AOC ripping

01:35:58.020 them at every turn and calling them racist when they're not.

01:36:00.900 Okay.

01:36:01.260 Yeah.

01:36:01.580 Great to have you guys.

01:36:03.060 It's always a pleasure.

01:36:04.660 Love it.

01:36:05.100 Thanks for having us.

01:36:05.920 To be continued and love to smug.

01:36:07.900 All right.

01:36:08.160 And thanks to all of you for joining us today.

01:36:09.320 I want to tell you that there's no show tomorrow because I'm actually going to be at CPAC and

01:36:14.300 we're going to bring you those remarks on Saturday morning.

01:36:17.440 So just wait until Saturday.

01:36:18.540 We'll have a release for you.

01:36:20.060 Hopefully you'll find it interesting and we will see you again on Monday.

01:36:23.500 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 22, 2024

Google's Anti-White AI Image Generator, Biden's Dangerous Dog, and the NYPD Dance Team, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 729

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