The Megyn Kelly Show - Harris Agrees to Interview...with Walz, and ＂Dangerous＂ Speech Crackdown, with Maureen Callahan, Laurence Fox, and Calvin Robinson ｜ Ep. 863

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00:00:41.880 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:00:45.060 Vice President Kamala Harris will give a primetime interview tonight.

00:00:48.780 It's finally happening to her running mate.

00:00:52.680 Governor Tim Walz.

00:00:54.380 That's right.

00:00:55.280 In an extra F you to the American media

00:00:59.140 and all of you,

00:01:00.920 they are both interviewing each other

00:01:03.080 for what promises to be a very hard-hitting cross-examination.

00:01:07.400 It's a pre-taped, highly produced video

00:01:10.840 that's going to be posted to the campaign's YouTube this evening. 0.90

00:01:14.680 The media are disgusting.

00:01:16.720 If you continue to act as their PR agents, 0.94

00:01:19.680 following her around every little rally,

00:01:22.520 begging for crumbs, 1.00

00:01:23.680 you're even more disgusting than we thought you were. 1.00

00:01:27.200 The title of the event? 0.99

00:01:29.180 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz on tacos, music,

00:01:34.040 oh, and the future of America.

00:01:36.500 Meantime, CNN keeps bringing on Harris campaign reps

00:01:39.780 to ask,

00:01:40.560 why isn't she talking to us?

00:01:42.820 Why is,

00:01:43.600 what if I lose a little weight?

00:01:45.020 What if I become captain of the cheerleaders?

00:01:46.960 Then will she talk to me?

00:01:48.720 Joining me now,

00:01:49.860 Maureen Callahan.

00:01:50.740 She is a columnist for the Daily Mail,

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00:03:07.840 Maureen, welcome back.

00:03:08.800 Thank you so much for having me, Megan.

00:03:10.780 I'm so happy to be here with you today

00:03:12.540 and to talk about all things Kamala.

00:03:15.780 Oh, my Lord.

00:03:16.620 It's amazing.

00:03:17.600 What a middle finger to everyone this is.

00:03:21.960 Not only that.

00:03:22.980 So I looked at this teaser clip

00:03:25.360 of what we're going to be treated to this evening,

00:03:27.640 and she and Tim Walz are talking about Tim

00:03:32.020 missing her call,

00:03:34.800 asking him to be her running mate.

00:03:37.320 So this is the guy

00:03:39.400 who's literally waiting for the call, right?

00:03:43.520 The biggest call of his life thus far,

00:03:46.120 and he doesn't pick it up.

00:03:48.660 That, to me, is like the metaphor

00:03:51.060 for what this entire calamity

00:03:54.040 of an interview will be like.

00:03:56.620 Just don't pick up.

00:03:57.820 That's what they do with all the media. 0.72

00:03:59.220 Just don't pick up.

00:04:00.300 So here's the clip you're referring to.

00:04:02.860 This is the tease they put out online

00:04:04.280 to get us all super salivating

00:04:06.080 to hear more from this power couple.

00:04:08.980 Watch.

00:04:10.380 I called you, Tim.

00:04:11.540 I was hoping maybe we wouldn't have to.

00:04:12.160 I called you, Tim.

00:04:13.920 Yes.

00:04:14.500 You didn't answer, Tim.

00:04:15.740 I know, I know.

00:04:16.780 The most important call of my life,

00:04:19.700 it popped up,

00:04:20.660 and we didn't recognize the caller ID,

00:04:23.540 and it went to voicemail.

00:04:25.500 Hi, this is Tim.

00:04:26.460 I'm not able to answer your call.

00:04:27.800 There you go.

00:04:30.580 It's possible.

00:04:31.840 Thank you.

00:04:33.280 Hey, Tim, it's Kamala.

00:04:34.900 I really want to talk to you.

00:04:37.300 It is an amazing privilege.

00:04:39.380 I'm excited.

00:04:40.000 I just want to be part of the excitement

00:04:41.780 that you're generating.

00:04:43.040 Well, we're doing it together, buddy.

00:04:44.540 We're doing it together.

00:04:46.780 Oh, my Lord.

00:04:47.640 Maureen, let me just give you a sample 0.94

00:04:49.500 of the media reaction to this clip,

00:04:52.740 just in case you didn't have the vomit

00:04:55.640 right there in your throat.

00:04:57.020 We're going to get it.

00:04:59.200 Here's MSNBC and Jason Johnson reacting.

00:05:04.520 That's right.

00:05:05.500 Governor Walz missed a call from the vice president

00:05:08.140 asking him to be her running mate 0.95

00:05:10.160 because he doesn't answer numbers he doesn't recognize,

00:05:12.400 like the rest of us.

00:05:13.240 It's that joy and laughter you saw in that video

00:05:16.220 that is really causing Donald Trump to spiral.

00:05:20.880 The joy.

00:05:22.400 It's all joy, Maureen.

00:05:23.600 You're just like us.

00:05:25.000 It's all joy.

00:05:26.380 Oh, I thought it was a telemarketer.

00:05:28.280 Guess what?

00:05:28.800 Tim Walz is not like the rest of us.

00:05:30.800 He's waiting for a call within a certain time frame

00:05:35.400 to get the nod or the nay.

00:05:37.420 So, you know, and again, to your point,

00:05:41.540 there are no shortage of sympathetic,

00:05:45.600 cheerleading outfits and journalists

00:05:47.900 who would be happy to lob softball after softball 1.00

00:05:52.980 Kamala's way.

00:05:54.600 But the way that they are keeping her obscured,

00:05:58.320 I mean, I think we all know what's going on.

00:06:00.560 She's the Sarah Palin of the left.

00:06:02.280 Yes, yes, I said this to my husband the other day.

00:06:07.560 Please expand on that.

00:06:09.920 Well, you know, they finally gave Sarah Palin

00:06:12.480 free range with Katie Corrick,

00:06:14.860 who infamously asked her,

00:06:16.680 what papers do you read?

00:06:18.200 She couldn't name a single periodical.

00:06:20.380 All of them, all of them, she said.

00:06:21.840 Just all, all of them,

00:06:23.260 because we all have time to read all of them.

00:06:25.660 Asked her what her,

00:06:26.620 what her most consequential Supreme Court decision was.

00:06:31.500 She couldn't name a single one.

00:06:33.260 She couldn't name a single one.

00:06:35.260 Kamala is famous for not doing the work, right? 0.67

00:06:40.180 We've all read the stories.

00:06:42.080 Washington Post, fairly sympathetic,

00:06:44.840 nonetheless ran a great expose

00:06:46.600 of the number of staffers.

00:06:49.480 She goes through the churn and burn, 0.90

00:06:51.340 I think 90% of her staff since she took office.

00:06:55.800 The main problem, they all say,

00:06:59.000 is they compile the briefing books for her.

00:07:00.960 Put them in front of her, leave the room. 0.96

00:07:04.120 She doesn't crack them open.

00:07:06.420 And then when she's asked about said policies,

00:07:09.580 she can't answer the question

00:07:11.360 because she hasn't done the reading

00:07:12.520 and she reams out her staff

00:07:14.360 because she is unprepared.

00:07:16.820 That is who they are hiding

00:07:19.460 in the metaphorical basement.

00:07:21.520 The woman who won't do the work, 1.00

00:07:23.440 but she can bring you joy.

00:07:25.700 Joy. Oh, it's so joyful.

00:07:27.060 I mean, I commented on this on Twitter.

00:07:30.160 J.D. Vance came on this show

00:07:31.560 like a week after accepting the nomination

00:07:34.560 when the cat lady comments were all over him.

00:07:37.260 And he told the story of Trump calling him

00:07:41.040 in what was a celebrity apprentice-like elimination round.

00:07:44.860 And he told a story weeks ago

00:07:49.060 about how he missed the call from Trump.

00:07:51.860 And all I could think when I saw this last night was

00:07:54.300 she copies everything.

00:07:56.420 She can't even have an original VP story.

00:07:59.800 For those of you who missed it,

00:08:01.180 here's J.D. Vance speaking about that.

00:08:04.080 How did he put it to you?

00:08:05.640 How did he ask you and how did it feel?

00:08:07.280 Well, the funny thing, Megan,

00:08:09.980 is we're in the hotel room in Milwaukee.

00:08:11.760 We had just arrived.

00:08:13.220 He apparently called, and I didn't see the call

00:08:15.460 because it went straight to voicemail or something.

00:08:17.520 So I call him back, and he answers the phone.

00:08:20.920 He says, you know, J.D.,

00:08:21.760 you missed a very important phone call.

00:08:23.340 Maybe I'll have to give this to somebody else.

00:08:25.880 And in the background,

00:08:26.700 my seven-year-old's talking about Pikachu.

00:08:28.420 I'm like, God, for the love of God, son,

00:08:30.180 for 30 seconds, just let me have this conversation.

00:08:33.660 And it's funny.

00:08:34.620 The president hears him and says, put him on the phone.

00:08:38.400 And then asks my seven-year-old,

00:08:40.560 what do you think about this statement

00:08:41.740 I'm about to put out,

00:08:43.320 nominating your dad for vice president?

00:08:45.900 And my son listens to it.

00:08:47.100 He says, oh, that sounds nice.

00:08:49.520 Now, I didn't see Jason Johnson over on MSNBC saying,

00:08:53.660 the joy between these two men

00:08:56.860 as they celebrate his being raised up

00:09:00.620 to this amazing position

00:09:02.080 and the kindness of Trump

00:09:03.880 to speak to the little boy on the phone.

00:09:06.920 No, the joy is reserved only for Harris-Waltz,

00:09:10.640 no matter how many children

00:09:12.580 he wants to have cut up in his state

00:09:15.520 without the permission of their parents.

00:09:18.000 Here's what I can't wait for.

00:09:20.180 So the DNC begins on Monday.

00:09:22.020 Anti-Israel protesters are going to be bussing in

00:09:28.500 from all over the country,

00:09:31.000 including battleground states,

00:09:33.780 tens of thousands reportedly.

00:09:36.840 How much joy will be outside the DNC?

00:09:40.920 How much coverage of this will we actually see?

00:09:44.720 This is astonishing to me.

00:09:47.640 They cannot run from the media

00:09:49.300 for the entire length of this campaign.

00:09:52.760 When is she going to do a sit-down one-on-one? 0.69

00:09:56.180 I can't believe the rest of the media

00:09:58.360 isn't on fire about this.

00:10:00.100 Can you imagine if Donald Trump or J.D. Vance

00:10:03.340 said they were, in effect,

00:10:05.800 going to orchestrate a media blackout

00:10:07.600 because they weren't getting a fair shake?

00:10:10.320 Kamala's going to get the greatest shake 1.00

00:10:11.860 of all shakes.

00:10:12.660 Right, exactly, like they have anything to fear

00:10:16.700 from George Stephanopoulos or Rachel Maddow.

00:10:19.940 And by the way, the expose you mentioned

00:10:21.960 that they did on Kamala Harris 0.54

00:10:24.000 and what a bully she is 0.81

00:10:25.320 to the point where all of her staff has left, 0.88

00:10:27.160 that, of course, was pre-her being anointed

00:10:30.280 as the presidential candidate.

00:10:33.040 This was all back when she was still 0.61

00:10:34.660 the dumpster fire of the Biden administration 0.56

00:10:38.060 where they were fine dumping on her

00:10:40.520 and blaming problems on her.

00:10:42.120 But these were her own staffers.

00:10:44.360 So Washington Post was happy to do that story then.

00:10:46.580 I haven't seen anything about what a bully she is since then. 1.00

00:10:50.740 I've only seen her presented as this champion of women 0.99

00:10:54.200 because she loves abortion. 1.00

00:10:55.920 It all boils down to abortion rights.

00:10:57.340 That makes you a champion of women. 0.78

00:10:58.780 Doesn't matter how you treat women on your staff. 0.91

00:11:01.340 I mean, I said this, Maureen,

00:11:02.340 and you were the perfect person to talk about this with.

00:11:05.240 She is Meghan Markle.

00:11:07.580 She's Meghan Markle in a different form.

00:11:09.660 One hundred percent.

00:11:13.840 Everything about her

00:11:15.180 and what her sort of surface appearance represents

00:11:19.480 is meant to make everybody sort of feel better about themselves. 0.99

00:11:23.620 But she is a bully. 1.00

00:11:25.600 She is a mean, nasty piece of work. 1.00

00:11:28.120 And in my experience, people who run, 0.98

00:11:32.580 whether it's a corporation or just their own staff like that,

00:11:37.920 typically do so because they know deep down they don't have the goods.

00:11:42.920 It's a distraction technique.

00:11:45.020 It's a way to make people operate in fear.

00:11:47.580 People never operate at their best when they're afraid.

00:11:50.020 I have a theory about what really binds Biden and Kamala.

00:11:56.440 And you saw it with Biden in the lead up to that first debate.

00:12:00.960 They had this sort of soundbite where he was saying to Trump,

00:12:05.860 make my day, pal.

00:12:07.880 You know, that Clint Eastwood, like, ancient thing with his aviators on,

00:12:11.660 like, cool Joe.

00:12:12.840 So I think that deep down Biden and Kamala both know that they're frauds,

00:12:19.580 that they locked into their positions,

00:12:22.240 not through grit or intelligence.

00:12:24.640 They just stuck around long enough

00:12:26.720 until the game of musical chairs left them alone with the final chair.

00:12:32.420 It's why Kamala can't speak extemporaneously. 1.00

00:12:35.040 And it's why she won't sit down with anyone until the 11th hour.

00:12:39.600 She's probably going to do it, I'm going to guess,

00:12:41.560 on 60 minutes after she gets to handpick who's going to interview her.

00:12:45.740 It will probably be Leslie Stahl,

00:12:48.280 who, if we recall the interview she did with Trump,

00:12:50.940 just refused to acknowledge some of the truths of what he was saying.

00:12:55.180 It's going to be like that.

00:12:57.400 And I just, it's so disheartening for this election.

00:13:01.300 We're always told, oh, this one's the one.

00:13:03.320 This is the fate of democracy rests in the voters' hands.

00:13:07.180 This election, one of my favorite tells in the past,

00:13:11.300 I want to say few weeks, was Ezra Klein.

00:13:13.360 I think you covered this on your show,

00:13:15.360 where he said, of the New York Times,

00:13:17.460 he said, I talk to top Dems all the time.

00:13:20.080 And when I talk to them about the possibility of a second Trump term,

00:13:23.880 they say, yeah, we can work with that guy.

00:13:25.840 It's not the end of democracy.

00:13:27.940 That's just red meat for the base. 0.98

00:13:30.600 That was when Joe Biden was still in office

00:13:32.680 and they were trying to reconcile themselves to the fact that he was going to lose.

00:13:37.220 I was like, is it so bad?

00:13:38.780 You know, maybe we just have to deal with the fact that he's going down

00:13:42.180 and we'll just get through one more term of Trump.

00:13:44.660 Now that they have a shot again, it's existential threat.

00:13:49.260 All the women are going to lose all their rights. 1.00

00:13:51.700 You know, hide the children.

00:13:53.340 But I want to pick up on what you said about her being a phony.

00:13:56.640 So, and by the way, the reason I draw the Meghan Markle analogy is because you and I have been

00:14:00.780 talking for months about how all of her staff quits.

00:14:03.420 We just had another major staffer from who'd worked for Meghan and Harry for three months

00:14:07.660 quit. 0.94

00:14:08.420 They all quit because she's a bully. 1.00

00:14:11.400 She's not that talented. 0.98

00:14:12.920 She knows it.

00:14:13.560 And she blames everyone around her. 0.70

00:14:15.560 And that's exactly the case for Kamala. 0.98

00:14:17.980 Both of these women happen to be mixed race and happen to have gotten far in life based on, 0.65

00:14:23.360 in part, this need to anoint people of certain demographics because it makes people feel good.

00:14:29.500 Now we've got to celebrate Meghan Markle as a champion of women. 0.95

00:14:32.100 Why again?

00:14:32.760 Because she's mixed race and she married a prince. 0.90

00:14:35.000 Okay, whatever. 0.98

00:14:36.240 So back to Kamala and her fraud, her fraudster nature. 1.00

00:14:40.780 So she steals Trump's no taxes on tips plan. 0.96

00:14:45.180 She decides to celebrate the same I called Tim Wald story that the Trump campaign had already come out

00:14:52.820 with.

00:14:53.080 That was their special moment.

00:14:54.160 She liked it.

00:14:54.700 She's like, oh, that's going to be our special moment too.

00:14:56.980 Then it reminded me of something that happened earlier that's now come back to haunt her.

00:15:02.980 And that is her appearance on the Jimmy Fallon show.

00:15:07.120 This is June of 2020.

00:15:09.060 When she told this story, this made the rounds not long ago.

00:15:11.920 She told this story about what it was like being raised, by the way, by Marxists.

00:15:16.900 Her parents were Marxists.

00:15:18.220 We're doing a deep dive for the audience.

00:15:19.680 It'll come out soon.

00:15:21.040 And here's what she claimed.

00:15:23.380 You get that energy from your parents or the thought of, hey, I have to fight for what's

00:15:30.060 right and I'm going to get out there.

00:15:32.500 And I mean, when were you out there protesting?

00:15:35.360 Well, I was in a stroller.

00:15:38.300 I was in a stroller.

00:15:40.040 And so I was out there.

00:15:41.720 And in fact, my mother used to have a very funny story, but I was fussing and she said,

00:15:47.700 Kamala, what do you want?

00:15:48.800 And I said, and this is how she would say it.

00:15:51.220 And she said, Kamala, what do you want?

00:15:53.440 And I said, tweet him.

00:15:54.740 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:15:59.840 It was a much cuter story when she would tell it, but that's the story.

00:16:03.460 And also when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told it, because it's his, she stole it.

00:16:10.100 She stole it when she told it to Fallon.

00:16:12.120 She stole it when she put it in her, the preface to her 2010 book, Smart on Crime.

00:16:17.800 She stole it when she told it to Elle magazine and sharp eyed readers noticed the uncanny

00:16:25.980 similarities in that story to the one that MLK told during a January 1965 interview with

00:16:32.440 Playboy magazine in the piece.

00:16:35.040 He recalled a moment he witnessed between a young black girl and a white police officer

00:16:39.820 not involving Kamala Harris, by the way, where he says, I will never forget a moment in Birmingham

00:16:44.960 when a white police officer accused, accosted a little Negro girl, quoting here, seven or

00:16:51.940 eight years old, who was walking in a demonstration with her mother.

00:16:55.780 What do you want?

00:16:56.500 The policeman asked her gruffly.

00:16:58.120 And the little girl looked at him straight in the eye and answered, feed him. 0.99

00:17:03.780 She's a fraud. 1.00

00:17:06.200 What a phony. 0.99

00:17:07.640 It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine's boss, Jay Peterman, buys all of Kramer's

00:17:13.780 best stories for his memoir because he has nothing of his own to offer.

00:17:18.880 He really doesn't have a weird idiosyncratic mind.

00:17:23.100 And this is really, I mean, it's funny to laugh about it, but this is somebody who lacks

00:17:29.300 a single original thought, a single story that she feels is reflective of who she is and how

00:17:38.120 she became that way.

00:17:39.580 If she can't offer that, what kind of original vision can she offer?

00:17:45.740 I mean, if we're really going to free ourselves from the shackles of this gerontocracy, Biden

00:17:51.380 forced out, very bitter about it.

00:17:54.820 Trump, he's showing his age.

00:17:57.400 He's showing his age.

00:17:59.060 There was somebody on your show the other day.

00:18:01.120 It was at Nate Silver who was talking about, you know, age limits for presidents, which I think

00:18:05.700 is a great idea.

00:18:07.000 Same for the halls of Congress.

00:18:09.060 You know, let's talk about then what is the vision of potentially the first Jan X president?

00:18:16.200 What does she have to offer us?

00:18:17.800 Because so far it's been nothing.

00:18:19.820 It's just been laughter and joy.

00:18:22.960 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:23.580 Which is big because she's a bully. 1.00

00:18:25.380 By the way, I do think it's interesting over the past couple of days and previously on this 0.94

00:18:29.080 show, I have acknowledged what you just said, that Trump is showing his age at times and

00:18:33.500 that he really needs to be reined in on the rambling because right now he needs a tight

00:18:38.040 message and he needs to hammer it over and over and over the way he did in 16.

00:18:42.020 China, China, build the wall, build the wall. 0.93

00:18:45.540 And he's not doing that.

00:18:46.680 So I've noticed something in the media.

00:18:48.460 I say anything like that.

00:18:49.500 It goes all over the internet.

00:18:51.060 It was leading drudge for like two days.

00:18:53.340 Those comments that I made the other day, I say something about Kamala, which I do all the

00:18:57.500 time.

00:18:58.580 All the same media runs to fact check me.

00:19:01.320 Oh, not true.

00:19:02.440 That can't possibly be true, but all of it's true.

00:19:04.620 I don't say things that aren't true.

00:19:05.720 And if I do, I correct myself.

00:19:08.160 It's amazing how they run cover for her and then anything negative that comes out of we

00:19:14.720 truth tellers in the world, they blow it up into a multi-day story.

00:19:19.080 It's just it's such evidence of their disgusting bias.

00:19:22.500 These same media frauds would never dream of criticizing their own side because they only

00:19:29.940 have one goal, which is to get her elected.

00:19:33.880 Yeah, it's infuriating.

00:19:36.420 It's the same thing they just went through with Joe Biden.

00:19:40.600 They spent years running cover for Joe Biden, right?

00:19:43.840 How many times did we hear, oh, this is the best Joe Biden, quoting Joe Scarborough, the

00:19:48.700 sharpest, the most mentally acute, you should see him behind closed doors.

00:19:53.500 His 20-something staffers can't keep up with him.

00:19:56.200 Really?

00:19:57.020 Then we see this debate where nobody can tell us what we have seen is not what we have seen.

00:20:03.640 And suddenly the media turns and is trying to flush him out.

00:20:07.660 Now they're doing the exact same thing with Kamala, the exact same thing.

00:20:12.080 Instead of holding her feet to the fire and making her prosecute her case, if this former

00:20:17.840 prosecutor cannot prosecute her case as to why she should be the next president and not 0.98

00:20:23.480 Donald Trump, she has no business being here.

00:20:26.160 Why are we coddling her?

00:20:27.720 Why?

00:20:29.720 She hasn't been held to account on any of her flip flops.

00:20:32.780 And I will say Nikki Haley had an interesting proposal on Fox the other day for Trump saying,

00:20:37.680 you should not accept these attempted reversals by her campaign spokespeople via written statement

00:20:46.520 until she comes out and makes clear she's reversing all of her policy prescriptions,

00:20:52.960 which did include banning red meat.

00:20:56.220 That was said directly to Aaron Burnett on CNN at a CNN town hall.

00:21:00.940 Go ahead and Google it, which did include getting rid of private health insurance

00:21:05.500 and making us all go on the government Medicare program.

00:21:09.140 That's right there on tape repeatedly, which did include softer border policies

00:21:13.520 and pulling away from enforcement and not prosecuting illegals and not deporting any illegals

00:21:19.700 and health insurance for illegal all those things that she had pushed.

00:21:23.100 But now she wants us to believe she's tough on the border.

00:21:26.220 She's releasing ads purporting to be tough on the border.

00:21:29.560 So these should be ignored.

00:21:30.740 These the new policy reversals, other than to call out her emptiness, should be ignored.

00:21:38.600 She's on record with her policies.

00:21:40.600 She is on record and we should proceed accordingly.

00:21:43.480 And I actually think that's a great idea.

00:21:45.900 Do we have that that border ad trying to see?

00:21:48.720 We have so many soundbites today.

00:21:49.940 I'm not sure if we have it, but if we do, we'll pull it.

00:21:52.480 We'll pull it later.

00:21:53.800 But we did find this, Maureen.

00:21:55.100 Stand by the Sarah Palin moment that you and I referenced a moment ago.

00:21:58.380 Watch.

00:21:58.580 When it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines

00:22:06.140 did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?

00:22:13.260 I read most of them, again, with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.

00:22:17.500 What ones specifically, I'm curious, that you read?

00:22:19.720 I read all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.

00:22:26.260 I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news to.

00:22:33.040 Oh, my God.

00:22:34.100 That's horrifying.

00:22:35.120 A vast variety.

00:22:37.040 Not ready for primetime.

00:22:39.380 That's what they're trying to avoid.

00:22:40.400 And actually, watching that back, you know, Tina Fey, as Sarah Palin, had so much sway that election cycle. 1.00

00:22:49.200 I wonder, will Saturday Night Live go after Kamala and Tim?

00:22:55.220 Will they hire Kamala?

00:22:56.880 Will they hire Tim?

00:22:58.280 They were hands off with Obama.

00:23:00.320 You know, all of it is just, there was something else you said that I wanted to circle back to, and I forget what it was.

00:23:11.120 What were you talking about at the top of that?

00:23:13.140 Oh, the Kamala thing, where she said, I'm against fracking, I'm against red meat, and I'm against private health insurance.

00:23:21.360 That CNN question, it was, she was asked the question, would you be, the way it was framed was sort of, would you be against, sort of teeing her up to say no?

00:23:31.060 And she would just offhandedly say, no, yeah, I'm for that, I'm for that, I'm for that.

00:23:36.480 There was no meat on that bone.

00:23:39.360 There was no sort of logical, cogent thought process that she could articulate that could tell us how she got to that point.

00:23:47.600 One of her lackeys, one of the DNC's lackeys, Claire McCaskill, on MSNBC the other day, told us that we should all just wait, it's all going to be fine.

00:23:58.660 Her campaign, not Kamala, her campaign is going to outline her policies on the website for all of us to read.

00:24:08.640 So, again, telling us we should not be waiting with bated breath to hear Kamala tell us, in her own words, extemporaneously, what her policies will be and how she will enact them. 0.99

00:24:21.540 That's the thing, it's like, Trump is definitely showing signs of age, she's showing signs of idiocy, which is a bigger problem. 1.00

00:24:30.920 Like, why aren't, and I don't care, people are like, oh, they shouldn't attack her as stupid, she does seem stupid to me, I will attack her as stupid, that's my prerogative. 1.00

00:24:39.200 Trump can do whatever the hell he wants, but she seems dumb, and I'm not afraid to say it, show me otherwise. 1.00

00:24:44.020 I have seen a person who can memorize lines to deliver in a debate, but I have not seen a person who can speak extemporaneously in any depth about any issue of substance. 0.99

00:24:55.260 Prove me wrong, let's see it.

00:24:57.320 If I'm wrong, put her out there.

00:25:00.040 Agreed 100%.

00:25:01.120 So I was thinking about this this morning, in advance of speaking to you about this, and I've been thinking for a while, Kamala reminds me of nobody so much as Chauncey Gardner.

00:25:11.360 And for any of your audience who may not be familiar, this was a very famous comic novel that came out in 1971 by Jersey Kaczynski, it was called Being There.

00:25:21.380 And it's about a guy who is just sort of, through luck and circumstance, plucked into the halls of power.

00:25:29.600 And he says very little, and he sort of speaks in inanities, but because this is so original to them, they take him as an oracle.

00:25:38.940 And he winds up being considered for vice president of the United States.

00:25:44.760 It turns out the truth about Chauncey Gardner is that he's a mentally impaired dude who got everything he ever learned from watching TV.

00:25:54.000 And when I see Kamala, I see Chauncey Gardner.

00:25:57.380 She's been elevated within the Democrat Party after, again, being raised by Marxists and in circles that are Marxist, who funded her, who helped her become DA.

00:26:12.360 Willie Brown, of course, did too.

00:26:14.120 Become a California attorney general.

00:26:16.760 And by the way, now we've got this ad.

00:26:18.420 We did pull it on her alleged border.

00:26:20.400 Now she wants to be, oh, I'm tough on the border.

00:26:22.640 I'm going to be super tough on the border because she's citing back to when she was DA in San Francisco and she had to prosecute some gang members.

00:26:29.480 She wasn't prosecuting them for anything having to do with illegally crossing the border.

00:26:32.820 If a drug crime popped up that was bad enough, she would prosecute.

00:26:35.580 It had nothing to do with the illegal stat.

00:26:36.960 She was not some border crackdown nut as San Francisco DA.

00:26:42.260 This is what she's showing.

00:26:43.520 I'll show you in the ad in one second.

00:26:44.700 And then she got tapped by Joe Biden because he promised Jim Clyburn he would pick a black woman. 1.00

00:26:51.640 Those are her qualifications at this point.

00:26:54.160 When she was running, she said the most leftist things possible.

00:26:57.700 She did not get the nomination because the Democrat Party of 20 was not that far left.

00:27:03.220 And now she's trying to both pretend she's become a more moderate.

00:27:08.040 She wants to say Joe Biden like candidate, even though he became leftist because his staff is and that's who was running the presidency.

00:27:14.120 But I'm more I'm like Scranton, Joe.

00:27:16.480 I'm really more moderate than I was in 19.

00:27:18.960 And at the same time, according to Axios, distancing herself from all of his policies.

00:27:25.040 Like I I'm different than he is on the economy.

00:27:28.360 I'm tougher than he is on the border.

00:27:30.360 All the things that make him moderate.

00:27:32.500 I'm the same as just fill in the blanks in your head and all the things that bother you about him.

00:27:37.960 I'm my own woman and I'm going to do it totally different.

00:27:40.460 And for those of you who are far left, progressive Marxists, I'm that, too.

00:27:44.900 And not speaking to anybody allows this imaginary experiment to work.

00:27:51.160 Exactly.

00:27:52.040 I don't know what campaign strategist would ever say.

00:27:57.380 Try to be all things to all people.

00:28:00.860 Voters can see right through that.

00:28:04.080 You know, what is she what is she going? 0.95

00:28:05.900 So another thing I wanted to mention to you, it's a little bit of a wild theory, but I have this theory that Donald Trump is laying low and having sort of these reported freak outs that we've been hearing about, about running against Kamala and debating her.

00:28:24.240 But I actually think he might be sort of rope-a-doping her in the Muhammad Ali style, allowing her to luxuriate in this warm bath of toothless media coverage that is anointing her as the second coming. 0.69

00:28:40.080 Not since Barack Obama have we been so impassioned by a candidate, so elevated and lifted up.

00:28:46.380 And I think once she gets on that debate stage, she's going to be taken very far back on her heels because she will not have any of the warning signs that a regular candidate gets to make them into a warrior when they take that debate stage. 1.00

00:29:06.820 I don't know.

00:29:07.540 Does that sound crazy?

00:29:08.180 No, it doesn't sound crazy, but I I don't know if I agree with it because, you know, I did go back and watch that debate she had with Mike Pence last Friday.

00:29:16.660 I watched it on Friday and she was good.

00:29:19.400 I mean, I have to I'm not her fan, but I have to admit she did it.

00:29:22.500 She did a good job. 0.72

00:29:23.300 You know, I'd give her like a B, B plus. 0.99

00:29:26.680 She was snarky and unlikable.

00:29:28.260 I didn't want to vote for her, but she handled her own.

00:29:31.760 And it was clear to me that she can do prep. 0.99

00:29:34.420 You know, she unlike Joe Biden, she can remember her rehearsed little bits and deliver them because she's still relatively young.

00:29:42.080 She still has her mind.

00:29:43.560 You know, she's not smart, but she can memorize. 0.98

00:29:45.500 And she was smart enough to realize this is where I insert the answer on Trump's tax cuts.

00:29:50.540 This is where I insert my answer on, you know, whatever women's rights. 0.99

00:29:54.540 So that stuff she was able able to do.

00:29:56.700 He'd have to get her off her heels like you'd have to actually engage in a real debate with her.

00:30:00.980 And there's a real question about whether ABC will let that happen, Maureen.

00:30:03.740 You know, there's you saw the news this week.

00:30:06.220 Dana Walden, who is at the top of the ABC power structure now, reportedly is going to take over for Iger, is literally her best friend or one of them.

00:30:15.380 She Kamala Harris said that Dana Walden, it's a woman, is responsible for her marriage to Kamala's husband. 0.99

00:30:24.100 And they're apparently extremely close.

00:30:27.500 So you tell me how hard these ABC News journalists whose instincts are to go left anyway.

00:30:32.620 We saw that ABC News reporter with Trump at the National Association of Black Journalists.

00:30:36.620 They are not Trump's fans.

00:30:38.380 So you have these rabid Trump haters coupled with people who answer to a woman who's one of Kamala's best friends, creating a really tough environment for Trump.

00:30:50.140 He's used to those.

00:30:50.960 But it's not going to be really tough for her.

00:30:54.120 It won't be.

00:30:55.240 I mean, you would hope that those journalists would want to prove their impartiality.

00:30:59.740 I mean, for me, one of the easiest questions that Trump can level towards her that she would have a hard time answering, I think, is regarding Joe Biden's health.

00:31:11.740 What did you know and when did you know it?

00:31:14.200 Because neither answer is good.

00:31:16.320 Either you were so far out of the loop and doing nothing of consequence that you were insulated from this, which was visible to anybody, or you did know this entire time and you were also running cover for what is essentially a figurehead.

00:31:32.040 And to a second point that you brought up, again, if she can memorize and sort of take her cues and know when to talk about a certain proposal in a debate and stand her ground, that's great.

00:31:49.100 But yet again, are we just electing another figurehead of the Democrat Party and not an actual president? 0.99

00:31:56.880 It feels like Kamala is their next useful idiot. 0.99

00:32:02.500 Yes, yes, I know it's I don't have high hopes for the debate. 1.00

00:32:07.680 I hope I'm proven wrong.

00:32:08.860 I really do.

00:32:09.520 I hope that the moderators actually ask her some tough questions.

00:32:12.680 I think they'll ask about the flip flops.

00:32:14.400 I mean, that would just be such a dereliction of duty that I think they'll understand for their own reputations.

00:32:20.500 They must ask.

00:32:21.620 But she's going to be prepared on all that.

00:32:23.800 You know, you've really got to torque it up at a debate and ask your A-plus level difficulty question to these guys.

00:32:31.340 It's not that hard if you are, you know, an honest broker, which these people aren't.

00:32:36.620 Now it looks like.

00:32:38.600 I don't know what's happening with the debates we have the ABC one agreed to for September 10th.

00:32:43.700 Trump also said, I'll do one with Fox and NBC.

00:32:48.480 It seems like Kamala Harris is going to agree to the NBC one, but not the Fox one, which is such a cop out. 1.00

00:32:56.820 She is such a chicken shit coward. 1.00

00:32:59.540 And J.D. Vance, on the other hand, has agreed to two vice presidential debates. 1.00

00:33:05.980 And I think Tim Waltz is saying he'll do one, but hasn't committed to the other.

00:33:11.120 Now, it would be unusual to have more than one vice presidential debate, but why not?

00:33:14.980 Let's go.

00:33:15.440 Let's do it.

00:33:16.100 Like, let's see these, you know, this guy who loves all the adoring crowds.

00:33:19.580 And he's, you know, your dad, your Midwestern dad.

00:33:21.500 Why wouldn't dad sit down with such a young gentlemanly man and give him a few life lessons in front of America?

00:33:27.680 So do you think these debates, maybe five, maybe two, maybe three total are going to matter because early voting is about to start?

00:33:37.380 I know the early voting thing is what really frightens me.

00:33:41.300 I do think they're going to matter.

00:33:43.040 I think, you know, this is in the way that, you know, when we were all watching that debate in June and I was texting with friends of mine and one of them said, this looks, this feels fatal.

00:33:54.220 This feels terminal.

00:33:55.720 And I think that we are all now so engaged in this in a way that we haven't been before.

00:34:02.640 And the Dems knew, yes, by switching out Biden, they would change the narrative.

00:34:07.800 They would galvanize the base.

00:34:09.940 The base is incredibly enthusiastic.

00:34:12.060 I mean, it's wild considering that the New York Post reported, credibly, that Obama was pissed that Biden essentially handed her the nomination because he thinks she can't win.

00:34:25.920 And say what you want about Barack Obama, but he's pretty smart when it comes to this stuff.

00:34:30.200 And I think he knows, despite, again, this media tongue bath, it's an evanescent thing.

00:34:35.920 It's not permanent.

00:34:36.880 And I think that's why these debates are so important and people will be paying attention because the mainstream media is not doing its job right now.

00:34:47.240 It's so disheartening.

00:34:48.980 I mean, I listen to your show and I laugh a lot, but I'm also just so incredibly frustrated by what's become of the Fourth Estate.

00:34:59.180 I know we always laugh when we do the news, but then I wind up feeling like there's this great, great comedian.

00:35:05.540 His name is Dove Davidson.

00:35:06.720 He performs at the Comedy Cellar, among other places in and around New York.

00:35:11.160 And we saw him back when Trump was running in 16.

00:35:13.440 He did this very funny bit on Trump and his bit went as follows, something along the lines of, and I love the way Trump talks, you know, like we're going to get rid of Obamacare.

00:35:21.960 And he's like, okay, yeah, get rid of Obamacare, right?

00:35:25.480 We don't like the individual mandate, right?

00:35:27.520 And what are you going to replace it with?

00:35:29.420 Something amazing.

00:35:31.400 Something amazing.

00:35:32.820 And he's like, I listen to it and I say, yeah.

00:35:34.940 And then I think to myself, why don't I feel good?

00:35:37.920 I don't feel very good when it's over.

00:35:41.180 That's the news cycle, right?

00:35:43.000 You have to find opportunities to laugh at it.

00:35:45.080 But net, net, I don't feel good.

00:35:47.760 I don't like what's happening.

00:35:49.220 I mean, Charles C.W. Cook at National Review had a piece out today, has saying something to the effect of no one gives a shit about anything. 0.98

00:35:57.180 They're just going to elect based on personality. 0.97

00:35:59.680 They don't seem to care about policy voters. 1.00

00:36:03.200 They don't seem to care about more than these stupid vibes, a word we're all sick of. 1.00

00:36:08.000 And they know these personalities. 1.00

00:36:10.580 They sort of see them as figureheads for, you know, whatever their imagined goals are.

00:36:15.360 And that's what they're going to base.

00:36:16.460 They're not going to listen to.

00:36:18.240 We're not going to have a country anymore because the border's open.

00:36:21.160 Maybe they're not even going to listen to.

00:36:23.660 There's going to be no more reproductive rights ever. 1.00

00:36:25.700 I don't know.

00:36:26.060 They're just going to say, I like her and I don't like him or vice versa.

00:36:30.420 What do you make of that?

00:36:32.000 So I would disagree with that.

00:36:34.340 And I'm just going to say anecdotally, living in New York.

00:36:38.260 So my brother and sister-in-law live in a really nice part of Brooklyn, clean, residential, family-oriented.

00:36:46.980 Three miles away is Floyd Bennett Field, which has been turned into a shelter for migrants.

00:36:52.760 My sister-in-law was telling me that she was gathering items to donate to the local Catholic church, had left them out in the front yard while she went to grab something else, came back and found a ton of migrants pawing through her stuff in her yard. 0.68

00:37:09.820 And I think this is the kind of stuff, whether it's the migrant crisis, whether it's the soft on crime policies that see these hardened criminals turfed out of the system back on the street, whether it's reproductive rights, whatever.

00:37:27.220 Whether it's foreign policy, the world on fire, I have no idea what Kamala Harris wants to do vis-a-vis Russia, Iran, China, Israel. 0.95

00:37:38.060 Neither does she.

00:37:38.660 There are still 161 hostages over there.

00:37:42.380 We never hear about them.

00:37:45.140 I think maybe for a segment of sort of the chattering class, it feels like it's going to be reduced to a cult of personality election.

00:37:52.300 And I do take Charles's point, but I do think that for most hardworking Americans, these things really do matter.

00:38:00.780 There is a bit the Charlie Kirk's group put together.

00:38:04.020 They went and started interviewing like these pro Kamala rally goers, turning point, and try to get a feel for what is it you love about her?

00:38:13.560 Like why?

00:38:14.380 And here's a bit of that.

00:38:15.400 Today, we're trying to find out from the attendees what Kamala Harris' greatest accomplishment has been a VP.

00:38:24.220 I mean, honestly, I'm not too into politics.

00:38:30.340 I'm just here for the vibe.

00:38:32.520 Becoming the first female vice president.

00:38:35.700 So becoming, just becoming the VP is the best accomplishment?

00:38:38.100 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:38.900 Being a good person.

00:38:40.100 Being a good person?

00:38:41.380 Yeah.

00:38:43.440 I mean, she's, I don't know.

00:38:46.940 She seems really good for women. 1.00

00:38:48.740 What is Kamala's like top accomplishment, you think?

00:38:52.260 Um, I can't say anything right now.

00:38:57.560 Um, give me a second.

00:38:59.140 Her top, her top, um, like contributions to policy or policy as VP.

00:39:05.600 I wasn't in on the policy making decisions with President Biden.

00:39:10.360 So I don't know.

00:39:11.700 Her favorite policies.

00:39:13.120 Oh my gosh.

00:39:14.280 See, I wish they would tell us more about that because I honestly don't know.

00:39:19.140 Oh my Lord, Maureen.

00:39:21.460 No, I know.

00:39:22.660 It's like that old tonight show skit where like you would just ask average Americans,

00:39:26.340 like how many states there are.

00:39:28.120 They have no idea, you know, like what the first amendment says.

00:39:31.400 They have no idea.

00:39:32.960 But I think that to that last, the last part of that clip where that woman says, I wish

00:39:39.260 they would tell us more about her policies.

00:39:41.440 I have no idea.

00:39:43.460 The media has a lot to answer for in regards to that.

00:39:46.800 Yeah, it's true.

00:39:47.880 It's our job to make her tell us.

00:39:49.740 Here's the border ad I've been mentioning that she puts out.

00:39:52.400 Like, I mean, honestly, she's trying to be John Wayne now down at the border.

00:39:56.360 Gunsling and Kamala.

00:39:57.640 Here it is.

00:39:58.080 Kamala Harris has spent decades fighting violent crime. 1.00

00:40:02.260 As a border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels and jailed gang members for smuggling

00:40:08.280 weapons and drugs across the border.

00:40:10.540 As vice president, she backed the toughest border control bill in decades.

00:40:14.960 And as president, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and 0.69

00:40:20.760 human trafficking.

00:40:22.540 Fixing the border is tough.

00:40:24.420 So is Kamala Harris.

00:40:26.320 I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message.

00:40:30.300 It's just completely false.

00:40:32.080 That is so misrepresentative of what she's actually done as the borders are, as the person

00:40:37.860 responsible for root causes.

00:40:39.740 That's that's her out on this.

00:40:41.000 She's like, I was responsible for the root causes.

00:40:42.660 That's all.

00:40:43.120 I funneled some money to these, you know, these countries down south to try to get them to

00:40:48.540 have better jobs down there so that they wouldn't come to America. 1.00

00:40:53.000 First of all, no one wants our money going down there. 1.00

00:40:56.100 Build a fucking wall. 0.99

00:40:57.120 OK, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:40:58.280 But like you failed your whatever you tried to do.

00:41:01.780 It was an utter abject failure.

00:41:04.340 So I really don't want to hear about you sending our money to get jobs in these third world 1.00

00:41:09.620 countries because we need jobs here.

00:41:11.380 And your job plan failed.

00:41:13.820 And second of all, just the dishonesty of it, Maureen, the dishonesty of it when we've

00:41:19.020 had record influx of illegal immigrants on her watch to try to sell us this nonsense is 1.00

00:41:28.540 disrespectful.

00:41:30.380 It's Trump gets pummeled all the time for not saying things that are true, like he went

00:41:34.240 down in a helicopter with Willie Brown, but then he didn't really. 1.00

00:41:36.820 Where's the fact check on this bullshit? 0.99

00:41:41.100 Well, it's the same media. 0.99

00:41:42.580 I mean, remember, Megan, she wasn't the borders are, but this ad seems to imply that she was

00:41:47.820 maybe borders are adjacent.

00:41:49.480 But then the bulk of the media told us that she, in fact, was never the borders are and

00:41:55.580 this wasn't part of her remit.

00:41:57.120 So it's understandable if one's head is spinning.

00:42:01.400 I just read a report that the migrant crisis has already cost New York City $5 billion.

00:42:07.820 And that's just the beginning of what it's going to cost as these migrants continue to come 1.00

00:42:15.180 in, as the city can no longer absorb them, as our own mayor is saying, we can't take anymore.

00:42:22.160 Like, we have to rethink our our position as a sanctuary city. 0.99

00:42:26.920 And again, like this ad is so boilerplate and it's such bullshit. 0.98

00:42:32.200 I don't think anybody really thinks that Kamala Harris wants to do anything about the border 0.99

00:42:36.760 crisis.

00:42:38.060 No, she doesn't.

00:42:38.880 She's made that clear.

00:42:39.920 As Trump's been pointing out now, she literally sits 10 steps away from the oval.

00:42:43.980 What I mean, is she that feckless? 1.00

00:42:45.840 She's had this secret border enforcement plan all along.

00:42:48.260 She just couldn't get it through the old man who's incompetent and not even speaking

00:42:51.500 News Nation.

00:42:53.160 God bless them, because they're actually one of the few out there that are trying to do

00:42:56.260 actual journalism around her.

00:42:59.000 They fact checked her ad and said basically what I just said, that her implication, she

00:43:03.880 was directly involved in border cartel cases, appears to stretch the truth.

00:43:08.120 Claims about her jailing gang members for cross-border smuggling also seem inflated while she did

00:43:13.760 prosecute gang members.

00:43:14.960 These cases mostly involved local drug offenses rather than international smuggling operations. 1.00

00:43:22.580 She's a liar. 1.00

00:43:23.760 She's a she's a disgusting liar. 1.00

00:43:26.160 And by the way, you know, when you take a look at like the border and her foreign policy 1.00

00:43:31.420 chops, there are none.

00:43:33.520 She absolutely has none.

00:43:36.180 She's never been a governor.

00:43:37.820 She's never submitted ideas for how to handle foreign policy.

00:43:41.200 And she has bragged that when it came to our disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, she was

00:43:46.900 the last one in the room.

00:43:48.080 She insisted on it and she was the last one in the room.

00:43:51.280 Tell it to the Taliban who are now literally in the streets, Maureen, parading the billions 1.00

00:43:58.360 of dollars worth of equipment we left behind on this, the three year anniversary.

00:44:05.040 Look, these are Taliban fighters parading American weapons and tanks through the streets three

00:44:11.440 years after the disastrous withdrawal for whom for which no one was fired and no one

00:44:17.180 took responsibility.

00:44:18.060 And she's still on record as saying she was the last person in the room bragging that she

00:44:23.940 was part of the decision making.

00:44:25.020 You know, it's like Biden always saying he was the last person in the room with Obama

00:44:32.640 and Biden being the only advisor who told Obama going after bin Laden, he shouldn't do

00:44:40.060 it by who's who three days after the Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:44:45.640 We all saw that horrific imagery of those poor boys clinging to our fighter planes falling

00:44:52.620 from the sky, callously saying when he was asked about that disaster.

00:44:57.400 Oh, come on, man.

00:44:58.120 That was like three days ago.

00:44:59.480 Why are we talking about that?

00:45:01.000 Are you kidding me?

00:45:02.100 I don't think we see half of what we see on the world stage without our inglorious, feckless

00:45:09.160 exit from Afghanistan.

00:45:11.320 I don't know that we see Russia dating Ukraine.

00:45:13.660 I don't know that we see Hamas executing October 7th.

00:45:17.060 I think the world's leaders are very much hoping for a Kamala Harris presidency.

00:45:22.620 I think our enemies are very much hoping for a Kamala Harris presidency for these reasons.

00:45:29.720 You've got it was seven billion dollars worth of military equipment left behind seven billion.

00:45:35.800 And now on the anniversary of our pullout, they rub it in our face.

00:45:40.860 Really think they're afraid of Kamala Harris?

00:45:43.120 Think again.

00:45:43.760 Um, you mentioned, you know, the international conflict and you mentioned earlier the Israel

00:45:49.720 conflict and they're not going to get away with a drama free convention just because she 1.00

00:45:56.920 selected Tim Walz and we're already seeing that she's been heckled at a couple of events

00:46:01.740 by these pro Hamas, pro Palestinian protesters.

00:46:05.540 And just last night in New York at an event that apparently wrongly suggested Kamala and Tim

00:46:12.260 Wallace were going to be there, but they weren't, uh, governor Hochul was there and, uh, the mayor

00:46:17.540 of New York city was there. These pro Palestinian protesters showed up in droves and caused mayhem.

00:46:24.540 Take a look at the video. 0.76

00:46:54.540 This is insane. I mean, like for the listening audience, it was absolute pandemonium.

00:47:04.820 They were outside of a restaurant in Harlem called bird in hand again, because there had been a

00:47:11.400 suggestion that Kamala and Tim Walz were going to be there. They wound up getting stuck with mayor

00:47:16.160 Eric Adams and governor Hochul and the burden hand owner, Brian, uh, Bella Cita gave the New York

00:47:23.800 post an interview saying a handful of people from the community swung by for an informal dinner after

00:47:27.820 the rally that these Dems were at. And he suspects some of the protesters followed them to the

00:47:32.120 restaurant. He credited cops for their quick action and his staff, he estimated damages to the

00:47:37.100 restaurant's outdoor seating area, at least a few thousand bucks. It's my flowers that took the

00:47:41.240 worst of the beating. He said myself and my business partner were both born and bred New Yorkers.

00:47:45.200 We're for everybody. I don't know what the target or intention was based around this,

00:47:50.560 but it makes no sense to me. Meanwhile, they are outside graffitiing police cars with free Gaza.

00:47:57.920 Over a dozen people were taken into custody. The stunned patrons were looking on. The cops were

00:48:03.600 taking rebel rosers into custody. The crowd circled the police. You heard the whistles, the sound,

00:48:07.680 smoke bombs. This is just today event in Harlem. Maureen, this isn't the Democratic National

00:48:14.300 Convention. And their party is more fractured than their joyful messaging next week is going to lead

00:48:20.440 us to believe. 100 percent. And it's such a dereliction of leaders on the left. You know,

00:48:28.480 this is I really feel like this is such a moral crisis. Those images from D.C. a few weeks ago

00:48:34.380 with, you know, with, you know, right outside Union Station, all of that graffiti and someone hanging the

00:48:40.960 Palestinian flag and, you know, cheering on Hamas, which is a terrorist organization that would murder 0.94

00:48:51.120 90 percent of the people agitating for them because they are sexually fluid, whatever. 0.81

00:49:00.300 It this is such a moral crisis. And I think it is so, again, weak and convenient of the left to try to

00:49:08.720 pretend this isn't even happening. I mean, I really wonder where the big voices are on this, where the

00:49:17.580 Clintons are, where the Obamas are, why we hear this deafening silence over what I think is is is the is

00:49:26.520 the moral issue of our time. Yeah. And they just reelected Ilhan Omar in Minnesota.

00:49:35.320 Yeah, his favorite politician. He's on record whenever whenever he thinks about Ilhan Omar being

00:49:40.820 in office, he smiles. She just got reelected because the Democratic Party has an enormous

00:49:46.460 faction that is becoming more and more radicalized by the day. What's happening in London could happen

00:49:54.660 here. We're going to tackle that after Maureen. But first, Maureen stays with us. We're going to get

00:49:59.520 to, among other news today, Matthew Perry. And Maureen's been on before talking about his death.

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00:50:47.020 while you're there, too. Maureen, a couple things that I want to get to with you before we get to

00:50:55.520 Matthew Perry, which news is breaking in right this second as the indictments are being announced and

00:51:01.000 the names are being read aloud. The Bulwark, this anti-Trump publication, they were born to resist

00:51:08.860 Trump. This is like part of the resistance. And this woman, Mona Charia, has a piece out today

00:51:16.300 entitled The Man Child vs. The Man's Man. The Man Child vs. The Man's Man. And guess who The Man's

00:51:25.740 Man is? It's Tim Walz. And let me just give you a little flavor for what she posits. If Harris becomes

00:51:34.380 the first woman president, her first accomplishment could well have already happened, elevating and

00:51:38.800 honoring the positive side of masculinity. He's a man's man without being a strutting jackass. I don't 0.99

00:51:46.740 know if any of this factored into Harris's calculations, but a good male role model is an excellent foil

00:51:52.140 for the swaggering, snarling, cartoonish version of masculinity on offer from the Republican Party right

00:51:59.240 now. Trump's masculinity bears none of the hallmarks of manly virtue, restraint, honor, service to others,

00:52:06.840 responsibility or self-sacrifice. Instead, he offers braggadocio, put downs, disrespect for women

00:52:13.420 and vulgarity. I mean, it's amazing to me already because it's like, what about what, what are some

00:52:18.860 other hallmarks of what a man's man looks like? What a harm hallmark of masculinity is? How about

00:52:24.340 strength? How about courage? How about the willingness to fight for others when under extreme

00:52:30.720 threat and pressure? All of which Trump has showed. How about kindness to those around you,

00:52:34.480 your family, kids in the golf store, as I mentioned with our own family friend recently down at Mar-a-Lago?

00:52:40.740 Does any of that count for what a man actually is? Mona? How about intelligence, by the way?

00:52:46.840 Doesn't sound like she's all that familiar with that. She goes on. Like Trump and the alt-right figures he

00:52:52.900 surrounds himself with, J.D. Vance does nothing to encourage men to be their best selves, but instead

00:52:57.900 spews contempt for women. He's a father. He's married to a professional woman who's double clerk for the

00:53:03.400 Supreme Court. She's no dummy. She's a practicing attorney, but I guess he hates women and he hates 1.00

00:53:07.660 working women, according to her. In the face of this brutalist version of masculinity, the Democratic 1.00

00:53:12.900 Party is now honoring a different kind of man in walls. And now here's where you really need to

00:53:17.760 brace yourself, my friend. Okay, brace yourself, Maureen. As the Atlantic put it, dad is on the ballot.

00:53:26.540 She goes on. Harris's selection of walls gave rise to a whole genre of warm dad memes. Tim Walls just

00:53:35.240 slipped me a 20 on my way out the door because you never know if someplace doesn't take credit cards.

00:53:41.560 I'm not done. Another posted that Walls would take care of the wasp's nest for you. Still another muse

00:53:49.700 that Tim Walls beeps at you at a red light, motions for you to put your window down and tells you that

00:53:56.060 your right rear tire could use some air. And then finally this. As romance writer and editor

00:54:02.300 Jennifer Prokop put it, in all seriousness, I think there are a lot of us who hope our dads

00:54:08.400 would have ended up a lot more like Tim Walls than J.D. Vance if it wasn't for Fox News. And maybe that's

00:54:15.680 why he makes us feel the way we do. Tim Walls may be the father figure the Democratic Party

00:54:21.760 and the country needs. What do you make of that hot take?

00:54:28.000 It sounds like romanticy. We just met this guy. Like, would you buy me dinner first?

00:54:34.100 What is this? Also, if this guy is the ultimate in masculinity delivered to us by Kamala Harris,

00:54:45.600 what do we call screwing the nanny and getting her pregnant in your first marriage? 1.00

00:54:51.840 Is she the person that we're going to rely upon as like a proper evaluator of like healthy masculinity? 0.80

00:55:01.580 There were reports that broke, I want to say like a week ago or maybe over the weekend,

00:55:06.120 that in fact, she knew nothing about this, about the first marriage and why it really broke up.

00:55:12.300 And the nanny and the baby and whatever happened to the baby. So this is this is really,

00:55:19.140 really, really embarrassing. This woman is in dire need of an editor that would tell her to just back 1.00

00:55:25.460 up a little bit. But, you know, it's it's not surprising to me. These Democrats do seem like

00:55:30.440 they're in need of a daddy. Like they they do seem like somebody didn't do their job when they were being

00:55:35.680 raised at home. Not the normal Democrats, but the ones who are fetishizing him and who we see in

00:55:41.160 these TikTok videos, they do seem to need some sort of an authority figure in their life. They're the

00:55:46.000 ones who were completely bowing down to the mask mandates. They love authority. They want government

00:55:51.460 censorship. It does seem to continue a theme for me that I see in this increasingly leftist party.

00:56:00.800 I don't know. It's like. It's a disturbing strain because the Democrats that we grew up with were

00:56:07.380 normal, but more liberal. These Democrats seem unwell and in search of something that no politician can

00:56:15.560 ever provide. It's so true. That's such a great observation. I hadn't thought of it that way.

00:56:21.760 This sort of. You know, as as a liberal, as the left has become, you know, in sort of agitating for

00:56:29.700 the things that historically they were against, such as, you know, mandates and censorship, this kind of

00:56:36.680 stuff. Yes, there is sort of, you know, there's a sort of truism in American politics that you are sort of

00:56:42.760 electing like a father for the country. I mean, we call them the founding fathers, you know, or would we be

00:56:48.920 electing a mother? I don't really know. But you wonder in the in the search for this sort of sense of a

00:56:55.700 paternal figure who has a warm, steady hand of authority and judiciousness. Would that be the

00:57:03.900 kind of dad who would stop you on the way out your door to go protest for Hamas and say, no,

00:57:12.680 we need to have a conversation at the dinner table?

00:57:16.680 Hmm. A couple of things I want to get to. An update now on the debates just hit.

00:57:21.980 So the Harris team is saying they'll do the one debate with ABC on September 10th.

00:57:30.600 Then on October 1st, they'll do the one CBS debate between the vice presidential candidates.

00:57:37.360 And then we'll have the opportunity to see Harris and Trump on the stage again in October.

00:57:45.140 They don't use the word debate on that line. If team Trump actually shows up at those first two,

00:57:52.860 the big swing and D's that both sides are trying to do, like I scheduled 40 debates. You'll be there

00:57:58.100 unless you're a chicken shit. Like the other side's like, I scheduled 42. But, you know, 1.00

00:58:02.560 they're totally different dates and different networks than yours. Whatever. Right now we have

00:58:06.060 one on ABC on September 10th, then the VP and 10 one. And maybe there'll be a third. I mean,

00:58:11.860 a third debate overall, a second debate between Harris and Trump, though I doubt it. I have two

00:58:18.480 other things I need to get to with you. This thing about Matthew Perry is crazy. Stand by. But

00:58:22.680 first, I want to spend a minute on RFKJ. RFKJ. Yes. I read the book. Everyone should read the book

00:58:31.920 because you want to talk about, you know, toxic masculinity. You will find some examples

00:58:37.380 in all the Kennedys, nevermind RFKJ and his first wife, which we can talk about. But the latest

00:58:43.760 today is that he is pitching himself to team Harris for a cabinet job. We know he already was talking

00:58:52.000 to team Trump about a cabinet job saying, I'll drop out and endorse you if you make me part of

00:58:56.980 your cabinet. Now he's doing that to Harris, begging them to make him part of her cabinet

00:59:03.100 in exchange for him dropping out. Meanwhile, all of his support has collapsed since she became the

00:59:08.460 nominee. Whatever disaffected Democrats that are out there that wanted to vote for him are now voting

00:59:13.100 for team Harris. And apparently he's going hat in hand to her, according to WAPO and asking if he can

00:59:18.880 be a part of her campaign. I can't, Maureen, this guy like the flip flops that he doesn't even know

00:59:27.500 whether he wants to be in a Dem administration or I mean, I guess maybe you could say that's good.

00:59:31.540 He's nonpartisan, like he'll work for anybody. But what do you make of the latest on him?

00:59:36.800 Oh, this is so sad because his campaign manager, who is his daughter-in-law, told, I don't know

00:59:43.320 whether it was WAPO or what outlet, but I read it this morning that they have been trying to meet

00:59:48.040 with Harris and they're getting stonewalled. Like they can't get their phone calls returned.

00:59:53.540 And I think he is just so in need of some sort of validation as a political player. He would go

01:00:00.400 whichever way the wind blows. You know, I'm surprised he hasn't yet dropped out, but sort

01:00:06.440 of not because he really is going to need that hit of attention. And the news cycle has been just so

01:00:12.600 like we all have whiplash, you know, every day it's something else. But it sort of does feel like

01:00:18.420 the proper shambolic, dissolute end to a campaign that really never should have been.

01:00:26.300 Mm hmm. It's it's done. I mean, it's done. He he's basically conceding he can't win a vote for him

01:00:32.420 at this point looks like an utter waste of one's vote. And honestly, like I'm all for bipartisanship.

01:00:37.740 And I've disclosed to the audience that I have voted both Democrat and Republican in my voting

01:00:42.680 adult life. But this is just too like you you're running for president. You got to know what you

01:00:47.420 stand for. You must know what you stand for and you must know what your party is. That's kind of

01:00:52.560 one of the basic things. All right, let's get to Perry because this is huge. A bunch of people are

01:00:59.180 indicted or being indicted today in connection with Matthew Perry's death from ketamine usage,

01:01:07.120 an overdose. This is a drug that they're giving more and more. You're only supposed to do this,

01:01:13.680 if at all, under controlled settings with a doctor, you know, an MD who can monitor you.

01:01:19.960 It is being used with some success to treat depression. I know people who have tried this,

01:01:24.960 so I don't mean to crap all over ketamine. But for people who are using it to find their way out of

01:01:31.540 abuse of drugs already, it seems problematic. And it certainly was for Matthew Perry,

01:01:37.080 who died of an overdose. And now today the news breaking, they're reading the indictments at this

01:01:43.940 moment. Indictment filed in federal court detailing grand jury charges against Jasveen Sangra, who

01:01:51.760 prosecutors said was known as the ketamine queen and Salvador Placencia, known as Dr. P. Ms. Sangra

01:02:00.620 maintained a quote stash house in North Hollywood, said the indictment. Dr. Placencia, a physician at

01:02:08.500 an urgent care center was among those who worked to get the ketamine to Mr. Perry. This is like not

01:02:15.440 under his supervision because the authorities already said he had a ketamine infusion, I think a

01:02:19.500 week and a half. Yeah. A week and a half before his death. And that those people were not responsible.

01:02:23.540 That was apparently under a doctor's care, but it only stays in your bloodstream for a few hours.

01:02:28.360 So they're not, they weren't, aren't blaming those people. This is a different set of

01:02:31.460 alleged ne'er-do-wells who were funneling him the drug on the side and illegally.

01:02:36.240 The charges against them include, include conspiracy to distribute ketamine,

01:02:40.200 distribution of ketamine resulting in death, possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine

01:02:44.940 and altering and falsifying records related to a federal investigation.

01:02:48.720 Mr. Perry's personal assistant, Kenneth Iwamasa, another doctor, Mark Chavez and Eric Fleming and

01:02:56.540 acquaintance of Mr. Perry's were all charged separately with counts, including conspiracy

01:03:01.380 to distribute ketamine. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, it was granted

01:03:04.920 anonymity to discuss the ongoing investigation. Again, it's 1 12 PM right now. They're announcing

01:03:09.500 these charges at this moment. Some of those involved include or used encrypted messaging apps

01:03:15.780 and coded language to discuss drug deals, including referring to bottles of ketamine as Dr. Pepper,

01:03:23.240 cans and bots, according to court documents. And then listen to this Maureen in a text message. 1.00

01:03:28.120 Prosecutors say Dr. Plasencia discussed with Mr. Chavez, how much to charge Mr. Perry writing quote, 1.00

01:03:35.300 I wonder how much this moron will pay. And then quote, let's find out. Finally, 0.99

01:03:42.760 U S attorney Martin Estrada following Mr. Perry's death in October of last year, law enforcement,

01:03:48.260 my office and our partners represented on this stage began an in-depth, wide ranging investigation.

01:03:53.100 That investigation has revealed a broad underground criminal network responsible for

01:03:56.680 distributing large quantities of ketamine and Mr. Perry and others. This network included a living

01:04:01.080 assistant, various go-betweens to medical doctors and a major source of drug supply known as quote,

01:04:08.380 the ketamine queen. We charge five defendants in this matter. These defendants took advantage of

01:04:12.980 Mr. Perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. What disgusting pigs, especially these so-called 1.00

01:04:24.320 doctors who knew exactly what they were doing. And as those text messages reveal, 1.00

01:04:29.800 if proven in court and true, show an utter callous, reckless disregard for human life.

01:04:40.400 Yeah. Yeah. For anyone who would say, Oh, well, only, only justice would be done in the case of a rich,

01:04:48.260 famous person, you know, America's first friend to die. You know, this is clearly a major drug ring

01:04:55.740 at work that they have busted. And that is a good thing. The ketamine stuff is just so crazy. It's such

01:05:02.700 a dangerous drug. And they knew from the beginning when they did the autopsy, that there was no way,

01:05:09.060 as you, as you mentioned, that it had happened in that controlled setting because of the amount that

01:05:13.960 was found in his system. And if I recall correctly, I also remember reading that when the cops did show

01:05:20.180 up, like the scene had been cleaned up, it seemed to imply that drugs and drug paraphernalia had been

01:05:27.260 removed. It's a sad story all the way around. It's enraging. And, you know, I also find it just

01:05:35.780 really sad on the whole. We now know that when Perry was doing his book tour, you know, extolling his

01:05:43.220 sobriety and how hard one it was and how he finally got there and how he just wanted to be in service to

01:05:50.200 those who were struggling with their own addictions, that it was all just a lie. I mean, front to back,

01:05:56.020 this thing is just one huge human tragedy. All I can think is, you know, I've got young kids and

01:06:04.420 people will say like, like two of them were in a play this year and people say, oh, you know,

01:06:09.160 they're so good. Or there's someone's so-and-so did such a good job. You can sit, you know, they,

01:06:12.940 they should act like you should try them out. I'm like, hell no, they can do the school plays if they

01:06:20.440 want, but child acting is just a gateway into young adult acting, which is what Matthew Perry was when

01:06:30.000 he got the role on friends. They all were in their young twenties. And honestly, it's like, why don't

01:06:34.960 you just skip all of that and go directly to heroin? Just if you want to take absolutely reckless risks

01:06:40.460 with your life, just skip all that and go directly to heroin. And then you won't have to deal with the

01:06:45.160 depression of being rejected over and over like you are in Hollywood. I just, I'm not, I'm not

01:06:49.900 blaming Hollywood entirely Maureen, but I mean, we've seen this over and over. Look what happened to

01:06:54.260 Michael Jackson. You know, look what happened to Marilyn Monroe. It's just, there's just such a pattern

01:06:58.720 of these corrupt, disgusting industries, killing people in effect, killing them. And the people 0.99

01:07:07.280 who are the weakest and the most tender do not survive. They don't. And you know, it's very,

01:07:13.740 what you just said about your children, the same thing with my niece, you know, she's been scouted to

01:07:18.720 model. And my brother said point blank, I would never do that to her. Yeah. What we, what also is

01:07:25.320 aside from just the pervasiveness of, of the rejection and the toll it takes is whenever we

01:07:30.760 look at any of these former child stars who are gone completely off the rails, I always think what

01:07:36.620 happened to them, who got to them, what predator was allowed to abuse that child in the service of

01:07:45.280 a parent's vicarious need for wealth and fame. It's again, it is, it is a, it is a savage, savage

01:07:53.600 business. I agree with you a hundred percent. And these doctors in the Perry case, these are,

01:07:58.140 these are another Conrad Murray, the guy who was hooking Michael Jackson up to the machine

01:08:02.800 with the, um, the propofol night after night. I mean, that's, there are some doctors for hire,

01:08:09.140 you know, who will just abuse their medical license and hurt people. Again, we'll see. I'm

01:08:13.900 sure they deny these allegations and we'll get their denials eventually, but this is as an alleged in

01:08:18.320 indictment. Here's just a little bit more, um, saying, hold on. The investigation revealed that

01:08:25.440 in the fall of 2023, Mr. Perry fell back into addiction and these defendants took advantage

01:08:29.660 to profit for themselves. Placen, Placenia was a medical doctor. He worked with another medical

01:08:35.600 doctor, Mark Chavez to obtain ketamine. He worked with Mr. Perry's assistant, defend Kenneth Iwamasa

01:08:41.520 to distribute the ketamine to Perry over two months from September to October, 23. They distributed

01:08:46.580 approximately 20 vials of ketamine to Perry in exchange for $55,000 in cash. As a doctor,

01:08:52.220 defendant, uh, Placenia knew full well the danger of what he was doing. In fact, on one occasion,

01:08:58.120 he injected Mr. Perry. Oh, so he was injecting him with ketamine and he saw Mr. Perry freeze up

01:09:03.500 and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional vials of ketamine for defendant

01:09:10.860 Iwamasa to administer to Perry. I'm so glad they're being charged. This is

01:09:16.580 this is so disgusting and irresponsible. And to your point at the top of this discussion, 0.82

01:09:22.500 which is the best one you, you, that has been said. Um, now how about the others? How about

01:09:29.800 people who are not rich, not famous and not beloved by millions of Americans because they played an,

01:09:36.300 a nice character on TV? Where's, where are the arrests of the people who ruined their lives?

01:09:43.320 Because they are just as much of addicts as Matthew Perry and their deaths will be ignored.

01:09:50.240 Maureen, there will not be indictments of those around them who fostered their death and their,

01:09:54.680 their untimely deaths.

01:09:56.680 No, you can't imagine the LAPD marshalling resources for someone who didn't have the means

01:10:03.240 or the fame or whose death didn't come as such a tectonic shock, even though we all knew it was a

01:10:08.960 long time coming as Matthew Perry. There's just no way. And you know, that what you were talking

01:10:17.160 about the doctors, you know, there's this whole subterranean network of doctors like this in the

01:10:23.620 music industry. They call them rock docs. They're for hire, they're for sale. They'll get you whatever

01:10:28.940 drug you want in whatever quantities you want, as long as the money is good enough. And I think

01:10:35.460 that these doctors should be made a complete example of, of course, their medical licenses

01:10:40.140 will be stripped. They should be thrown in prison among a community that they have are only too happy

01:10:47.000 to service. Um, it's going to be very interesting to watch this play out. And what's going to be more

01:10:52.320 interesting. I always thought when Matthew Perry died, that this was such bullshit because you can't 0.99

01:10:57.740 tell me that every single person who worked on friends had no idea that this guy was under heavy, 0.99

01:11:05.760 heavy addiction issues, that this guy wasn't showing up late, that he was unreliable, that he

01:11:12.160 couldn't remember his lines, that things were off. I think everybody knew. And that show was such a cash

01:11:18.540 cow that they did whatever they had to do to cover it up. So everybody kind of has blood on their hands

01:11:24.820 here. Yeah. I think about it with my sister because my sister was like a normal housewife

01:11:33.800 and teacher living in Virginia and a doctor back during what would we now know is the beginning of

01:11:41.580 the opioid crisis prescribed her an opioid. It wasn't one of the most common ones. I'll refrain from

01:11:47.940 saying its name. I don't want to get sued, but, um, and said it was non-addictive and it was not

01:11:55.280 non-addictive. I mean, we've seen, everybody's seen dope sick. Now they were saying that about,

01:11:59.280 about, you know, actual opiates and about, um, what's, why am I forgetting the drug in there in

01:12:06.040 that, uh, show in any event, um, about the most addictive opioids they were trying to say in the

01:12:11.200 beginning, they're not addictive. So with my sister, she took this drug because she was having 0.98

01:12:16.200 pain. It was a long story, but she thought it was going to be a temporary bridge out of the pain

01:12:19.980 and she got addicted. And truly Maureen, it was the beginning of the end of my sister's life.

01:12:25.480 Um, it just caused so many problems to this person who is not a drinker, not a drug seeker,

01:12:31.540 not in any way. Like you just would never have pegged her for somebody who could get addicted

01:12:36.220 to opioids. And those doctors have never been held responsible. That drug is still on the market

01:12:42.680 and, and people still take it. And so I see these stories and I'm, I am triggered by them because I

01:12:49.400 understand like these, these doctors are in a different class, you know, the Perry doctors,

01:12:53.180 but there is a whole host of doctors that push these opioids on millions of unsuspecting Americans

01:12:59.260 and ruined lives, literally ended lives and ruined other lives on top of it,

01:13:04.540 who have never been held accountable. And it was one of the reasons why I was thrilled to see that

01:13:09.040 whole Sackler bankruptcy plan fall apart because they were trying to get out of ever being charged

01:13:14.960 themselves, um, as you know, with criminals, with crimes. And this judge said, we're not allowing

01:13:20.820 that. We don't care. We're not allowing this settlement in this bankruptcy court. We're not

01:13:24.040 going to absolve you of anything. There's just never going to be full accountability for the amount

01:13:28.380 of damage done. This is a teaspoon in the ocean, but it's at least a teaspoon.

01:13:32.880 Yeah. I'm so, I'm so sorry for what happened to your sister. And it's, I think it's all too common.

01:13:40.240 I mean, I remember before going in for a surgery, like 10 years ago, they sent me up to a pain clinic

01:13:47.820 in upper New York. They couldn't shove enough drugs at me. I said, I don't want all these drugs.

01:13:55.280 You know, they couldn't give me enough. Luckily for me, I'm one of the rare people,

01:13:59.740 like my brain receptors don't attach to opioids. God forbid they did. Everybody knows what they're

01:14:06.200 doing. This is an entire like medical industrial complex that, that revolves around the profitability

01:14:12.180 of these drugs. And they do not care about the human carnage. And what happened to your sister? I

01:14:18.120 mean, those prescribing doctors should have been held criminally responsible for that.

01:14:22.760 And the company and the drug company itself and the company, it, it never has been. And by the way,

01:14:29.300 it was Oxycontin, not her drug, but that's the drug I was struggling to remember. Right.

01:14:33.580 Oxycontin that same, when I had my three kids, I had C-sections and every time they're like,

01:14:39.120 you want some oxycodone or hydrocodone? I'm like, I think I'm good with just a couple of Tylenol.

01:14:44.980 And indeed I was, I was fine with that, but boy, that wasn't that long ago. You know, my youngest

01:14:49.640 was born in 13. They were still prescribing this stuff like it was candy. And this is one of,

01:14:55.920 this is an ongoing problem because now a lot of people are still receiving drugs like that,

01:15:01.100 especially people like you and me, right? They don't look at us and say, drug addict,

01:15:05.360 we can give her 30 pills. Well, you know what happens if you take that and then you take two of

01:15:09.960 them and you get through your C-section pain, then you'll have 28 pills sitting in your medicine

01:15:14.600 cabinet. And what happens is somebody's kid comes over, especially when you get to the college years,

01:15:19.600 they go through the medicine cabinets, they rob you of the drugs, they take the drugs,

01:15:23.980 they wind up in the wrong hands, they get laced with something, they wind up killing somebody.

01:15:29.020 It's, there's all sorts of programs. Now I've, I've interviewed people, but you can check with

01:15:33.160 your local firehouse. Some, some firehouses will have like one day a month or every couple of months

01:15:38.560 where they accept back those pills. So, cause you know, they say, don't flush them down the

01:15:43.540 toilet. Don't, you don't want to like bury them in the yard. You don't know what to do with them.

01:15:46.280 Right. It's like, I don't want to take them. I don't want to flush them. I don't know. I don't

01:15:48.360 know. I just put them in the garbage. They went up in a landfill. What happens to get in the water

01:15:51.900 supply. So you should look into it because that's another way that people can be hurt, especially

01:15:55.900 young, young people. What a, what a way to end the discussion, but Maureen, as always thoughtful,

01:16:02.080 insightful. I love talking to you. Thanks for being here.

01:16:04.980 I love talking to you so much. Thank you, Megan.

01:16:07.240 Wow. Love to hear your stories. I'm sure you guys have some, I'm sure you have stories just

01:16:13.140 like the story with my sister. Um, I think that's what the Matthew Perry thing brings up for me.

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01:16:24.060 himself, but there is a cast of characters around most addicts that just goes under the radar.

01:16:31.340 They get away with it and they hurt person after person. And I'm thrilled to see some of those

01:16:36.940 people being held accountable or at least an attempt at it in these indictments, which again,

01:16:42.840 are just allegations. We'll hear their side soon. We'll be back with Lawrence Fox and Calvin Robinson

01:16:48.480 on what's happening in the UK when it comes to illegal immigration. Could it happen here?

01:16:53.840 And the ridiculous attempts to pitchfork Douglas Murray, which go on.

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01:18:02.440 There is a crisis enveloping the West at this moment, and perhaps nowhere is it more evident

01:18:07.040 than in the UK. For weeks, chaos has ruled the day there as anger boils over concerning

01:18:12.120 immigration and what some view as the government handling foreigners with kid gloves to the detriment

01:18:17.360 of its own people. In reality, this is an issue that has been brewing for years, and it's not just

01:18:22.720 in the UK. It came to a head on July 29th over there when three little girls at a Taylor Swift

01:18:29.260 themed dance party were murdered in Southport. Within hours, a woman on social media claimed the killer

01:18:36.420 was an asylum seeker who was on a terror watch list. She went on to say, if this is true,

01:18:42.700 then all hell is about to break loose. It was not true. And in fact, police said as much the very

01:18:48.960 same day, the day of the killings. The suspect, in fact, was born in Britain to parents who were

01:18:54.720 immigrants from Rwanda. Still, the news spread like wildfire and protests quickly erupted. Some

01:19:01.940 of the protesters likely knew that the killer was not an illegal immigrant, but that wasn't the point.

01:19:06.600 They were angry. They were angry about the influx of immigrants to their country and the changing 1.00

01:19:12.180 culture and dangers that they brought with them. By week's end, protests would break out across the

01:19:19.380 UK. Among those involved, far right and far left groups, race baiters, and some everyday Brits who

01:19:26.140 are just fed up. We witnessed rioters storm a hotel that had been used by asylum seekers. The video's

01:19:31.780 hard to watch. You see them throw items at cops, set things on fire. No regard for others there.

01:19:37.440 A bin set on fire by rioters with little regard for anyone inside the hotel. A police force at times

01:19:51.520 appearing outnumbered. The new British prime minister, Keir Starmer, would warn the rioters that

01:19:58.900 they would feel the full force of the law, but he specifically named one group in particular.

01:20:03.980 I'm shy away from calling it what it is. Far right thuggery. To those who feel targeted because of the

01:20:14.600 color of your skin or your faith, I know how frightening this must be. I want you to know 1.00

01:20:23.800 that this violent mob do not represent our country. Very concerned about the far right thugs. Thing is,

01:20:32.280 it wasn't just far right thugs. As evidenced by this video taken the very next day in Plymouth,

01:20:38.220 where clashes broke out between rival groups. 1.00

01:20:40.460 Nazi scum! 1.00

01:20:44.260 Nazi scum! 1.00

01:20:55.280 Nazi scum! 1.00

01:21:01.820 O 1.00

01:21:03.180 you get the you get the gist of it and there are pro-palestinian protesters out there and so on

01:21:20.220 a sky news reporter's live shot was interrupted by pro-palestinian protesters in birmingham

01:21:25.060 so bad was the interruption sky news had to quickly drop the shot

01:21:28.540 community leaders have been speaking to the police as well because

01:21:33.200 i think apologies for the language you're hearing but a sense of the anger i think you can hear

01:21:42.940 yeah katie i think we becky i apologize we need to um leave you there and uh um becky um we'll have

01:21:52.420 security there and uh um we will leave that and i apologize once again uh for the language there

01:22:00.480 that reporter did need security because she later said that a man brandishing a knife

01:22:07.820 stabbed the tire of their news ban nearby another video tweeted out by andy no he no he's been on

01:22:14.180 our show many times appeared to show a palestinian group attacking a white man at a pub and kicking

01:22:20.540 him in the head 0.88

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01:22:27.160 blah blah 0.97

01:22:31.080 the

01:22:31.560 blah

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01:22:38.320 shit 1.00

01:22:38.940 blah 1.00

01:22:39.320 that

01:22:40.500 blah

01:22:41.500 horror

01:22:43.080 oh

01:22:44.680 hell

01:22:45.200 happy

01:22:45.680 have

01:22:46.500 I

01:22:47.140 hop

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01:22:48.000 их

01:22:52.320 And yet across the board, headline after headline,

01:23:06.400 seems to focus almost entirely on the far right agitators. Some of whom, yes, behaved very badly

01:23:14.080 and they deserve to be punished. But they're not the only ones. In fact, a local labor counselor

01:23:19.340 was filmed in London and he described those on the right as Nazi fascists before suggesting 0.99

01:23:25.660 they should have their throats slashed. Watch. 1.00

01:23:44.420 So why is the messaging all about the right wing thugs, right?

01:23:49.840 That particular guy was later arrested. But meantime, British authorities are warning via X.

01:23:55.960 Anyone, anyone who incites violence or hatred, even exclusively online, could be prosecuted

01:24:02.600 and prosecuted. They have been over 1000 people arrested so far, nearly 600 charged.

01:24:07.920 More than 120 of them have had their court cases fast tracked and are already getting lengthy jail

01:24:13.940 sentences. Among them, a man who, yes, posted something vile, but did not even take part

01:24:20.340 in any violence. In the end, the truth is, this is all part of a much bigger conflict that's been

01:24:26.420 brewing now for years. And it is one that people like Douglas Murray have been warning about for years.

01:24:33.020 I mean, there's a real spiral they could be in at the moment. And it's happening in Britain at the

01:24:38.420 moment where, you know, unfettered immigration, mass immigration, illegal migration and legal

01:24:47.200 migration have been at historic highs. And societies that were high trust societies have become 0.99

01:24:53.480 very low trust societies. And societies that were very coherent, including in my own life,

01:24:59.680 have become or are becoming really wildly incoherent societies. Well, there's very little,

01:25:06.360 increasingly little that's binding them together. Very, very worrying and very dangerous.

01:25:11.800 And we have seen recently with things like the atrocity of this terrible young man who went and

01:25:19.740 stabbed these young girls. The public mood is febrile, febrile. And there have been demonstrations

01:25:26.540 and even things that, you know, we do not see often in Britain burning of police stations by very angry

01:25:32.720 mobs. And then I just see today, you know, a Muslim group, you know, sort of doing like a boundary 1.00

01:25:40.900 policing thing in their area of chanting Allah Akbar. And I defend the mosque sort of thing. I mean,

01:25:46.300 so the way in which things can go wrong. And the reason I wrote The Strange Death of Europe and the

01:25:51.120 reason I banged on about this for years beforehand was I said, it is so obvious what is going to

01:25:55.240 happen. And it gives me, I was so angry watching it when it could have been stopped.

01:26:02.420 Hmm. And now Douglas Murray is also hashtag part of the problem. How dare he point out the obvious

01:26:11.140 that people are sick and tired of having their culture and their religion ridiculed and mocked.

01:26:18.200 They're tired of losing out on jobs to migrants who refuse to take on the culture to the melting pot 1.00

01:26:27.260 over there. No, it's not happening. And it's not happening here anymore either. They're tired of

01:26:32.480 being told that they and their ancestors are terrible because of the color of their skin.

01:26:36.900 They're tired of being told they can't speak freely by the very people who are supposed to be in the

01:26:41.540 business of protecting free speech, a very tenuous concept in the UK. Now, none of this absolves the

01:26:48.220 bad actors, bad behavior, but the reality is the West has a serious problem, deadly serious.

01:26:54.940 Joining me now, Lawrence Fox and father Calvin Robinson, co-host of Fox and father Lawrence

01:27:00.240 Calvin. Welcome back to the show. This is about as bad as it gets. And literally every word Douglas

01:27:05.380 Murray has said about it has been proven out. It's been true. And yet you've got people who now treat

01:27:13.000 him as also someone who'd be, who should be treated like a criminal. So now things seem to have settled

01:27:19.320 slightly in the UK in the past few days, but where are things right now?

01:27:26.920 The riots have stopped for the short term because the population has been gaslit.

01:27:30.900 So the government kept trying to look for an enemy, try to look for a boogeyman and they blamed the

01:27:35.940 far right. I mean, there isn't a far right in Britain. So what was happening was that ordinary

01:27:40.240 British folk were getting upset, getting angry, getting frustrated and protesting. And some of the

01:27:46.580 protests turned into riots. And so the government tried to blame it on the far right, which does

01:27:50.780 not exist. And so to retaliate the Antifa lot, you know, the anti-racist so-called lot, the Marxists

01:27:58.680 essentially came out and had a big protest of their own. And so the government picked this as a win,

01:28:04.300 a triumph for diversity. The far right has been defeated. And so for now, the riots have died down,

01:28:09.920 but it won't last long.

01:28:10.620 It's a sticking plaster on a major problem, which Douglas wrote in his book, The Strange Death of

01:28:17.280 Europe. He warned us of what was going to happen. We have a situation, an ideology or a religion,

01:28:23.260 whatever you see Islam as, is entirely antithetical to Western values of free speech and certainly 1.00

01:28:30.620 consent, sexual consent and stuff like this. And Douglas warned about this and what they've done,

01:28:36.440 especially Alistair Campbell and people like that, if they have turned on Douglas as the foremost

01:28:42.220 intellectual in this area. And Calvin's right. The riots have stopped for now, but it is a sticking

01:28:51.060 plaster on what is a much deeper ailment, Megan.

01:28:56.040 Who is Alistair Campbell?

01:28:57.700 Alistair Campbell was Tony Blair's spin doctor who convinced us by the dodgy dossier that we needed

01:29:07.340 to join with America to invade Iraq and kill a million innocent Iraqi people. And he has suddenly

01:29:14.200 reinvented himself as a moral pitchfork in some way.

01:29:19.360 It's ironic that this man dragged us into an illegal war, but actually most of the problem is down to

01:29:24.140 him and Tony Blair. Alistair Campbell and Tony Blair, their government from 1997 are the ones that

01:29:29.020 really brought on mass immigration to this country. And it was part of their package that they said 0.66

01:29:34.300 anyone from the right, anyone from the center right who goes against our policy will call them

01:29:38.960 racist. And we have this on record that it's been the plan all along that anyone that goes against

01:29:43.500 diversity being our strength is a racist or a xenophobe. And this is why we've had over 20 years of

01:29:48.660 this now, of just mass immigration, people coming to our shores who do not share our values, 0.99

01:29:52.800 who do not share our culture. In fact, hate us, hate our way of life and want to kill us, 0.78

01:29:56.580 want to replace us. And anyone that speaks out against it has been labeled racist, which is why

01:30:01.140 these riots were happening. Actually, it wasn't anything to do with what it was something to do with

01:30:04.500 recent events, but it goes all the way back to 1997 and Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell.

01:30:10.280 The interview that we just showed with Douglas, in part with PragerU, is he's saying similar

01:30:16.240 things to what he's been saying for years now, what he's been writing for years now. And this

01:30:19.460 Alistair Campbell tweeted out in response to this most recent interview, think the Metro Police UK

01:30:25.100 might want to take a look at this book plug, meaning that interview that we just played the soundbite

01:30:31.160 from. He's trying to get the cops to consider arresting him. And Douglas Murray actually went

01:30:39.300 on Sky News Australia last night and responded in part and sought 44.

01:30:43.520 Of course, this man, Campbell, is best known for his lying dossier about WMD in Iraq, which helped 0.95

01:30:53.860 bounce Britain and other countries into the Iraq war. So if he had any kind of sense of decency,

01:30:59.300 he would have disappeared from public life a long time ago. He was also, of course, the person who

01:31:03.380 hounded Dr. David Kelly to suicide. And that's one of the really interesting things about Alistair

01:31:07.940 Campbell. He's an unbelievable bully and a hack. And one of the things about him, like most hacks 0.99

01:31:14.720 and bullies of his kind, he thinks that he can hide behind, as he always does, the claim that he 0.92

01:31:20.980 himself is very mentally fragile. One of the interesting things about that is he can chase

01:31:25.840 people like David Kelly to suicide. But if you criticise Alistair Campbell for his frequent bursts

01:31:31.420 of utter insanity, he says that you are using his mental health against him. He's a totally sick 1.00

01:31:37.680 individual on every possible level. I make no apology for pointing out the terrible things that 0.99

01:31:43.620 he and his friends did to my country. What's crazy, you guys, is like we're all experiencing this to

01:31:49.880 some degree together, where the people who speak up honestly about the problem get censored and in some

01:31:57.420 cases threatened. And in the UK, more and more, Lawrence, you've been a victim of this yourself,

01:32:03.000 that that speech gets threatened criminally.

01:32:08.420 It's very bad that we're in this position whereby we have a new prime minister who is

01:32:16.780 turning around and saying that your speech is more important than your actions. And we've seen in

01:32:22.380 London, certainly in London, we've seen reports of the complete mismanagement of actual crime

01:32:27.500 in our country. And at the same time, we've seen a real overreach when it comes to like thought crime

01:32:35.020 and speech crime. So, you know, there's that line which Victor Davis Hanson, who you're a huge fan of,

01:32:40.720 I'm a huge fan of, and everyone should be a huge fan of. He says, you know, from The Sun Also Rises

01:32:45.500 in Hemingway, which is you become bankrupt very slowly, and then very, very quickly. And that's what's

01:32:51.440 happened to the United Kingdom. It's unrecognizable. Calvin and I today were saying that last year,

01:32:56.520 I left this island where we are, we're in Greece. And I said, I don't want to go home. And today,

01:33:02.900 Calvin said to me, I'm dreading going home. Our country has fallen.

01:33:06.600 Yeah, I've been thinking about this for a while, Megan. I've been thinking, they keep addressing

01:33:10.340 the people who are addressing the problem instead of addressing the problem. And I thought it's

01:33:13.740 because they're incompetent. But actually, I realised it's because they are the problem. They are the 0.98

01:33:17.280 instigators of this mass immigration and this cultural diversity that is breaking our society 1.00

01:33:22.360 apart. And so they can't fix it, because they're the ones who've caused it. And so it's much easier

01:33:26.320 to clamp down on people like me, people like Lawrence, Douglas Murray, anyone who comments on

01:33:29.780 it and says there is an issue here. Just lock us up. You know, when Keir Starmer got into office just

01:33:35.020 over a month ago, he said, the prisons are full. We're going to have to release 40,000 prisoners.

01:33:40.040 Now, that's a scary prospect, especially considering that 80% of them are foreign-born, 1.00

01:33:44.340 we could just deport them tomorrow. But he said, we're going to have to deport, we're going to have

01:33:47.480 to let these people out of prison. They could be what? Rapists, murderers, anything. We're going

01:33:52.600 to let them out early, because there are 700 places left in our prisons. Now, fast forward to today,

01:33:57.440 six weeks later, and suddenly we're sending people, rushing people through the systems.

01:34:01.880 They're getting arrested, sent to court, charged, prosecuted, sent to prison for social media posts.

01:34:08.720 So we're letting proper criminals out of prison to make room for people who are saying the wrong

01:34:12.880 thing on Twitter. Make it make sense. It was, it reminded me of a stat. I just read it very

01:34:18.260 disturbing over here in our country. Of course, we have a completely open porous border and people

01:34:23.220 are coming in by the millions, literally by the millions under Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and

01:34:27.700 a bright, bright side. They're being processed into citizens faster than ever. They've increased the

01:34:33.960 rate of pushing these people through the system so they can vote to levels that we haven't seen in

01:34:38.660 decades. And they're super proud of that fact. Um, I, I do want to talk about like, what specifically

01:34:44.700 is it? Because I read a great Douglas Murray piece in the spectator, um, dated eight 10 called the

01:34:50.180 unfashionable truth about the riots. And he was talking about these communities that have the same

01:34:55.500 unemployment rate today that they had some 13 years ago. Absolutely nothing has been done to help the

01:35:03.160 working class in the UK. And at the same time, the doors are open to all these illegal immigrants to 1.00

01:35:09.280 come in and they're getting jobs. So is it a joblessness problem or is it more of a cultural

01:35:16.120 problem where you have people from cultures, heavily Islamic who do not wish to assimilate, 1.00

01:35:22.200 who are taking over Britain? You see more burqas there than you might see, you know, on, on a, 1.00

01:35:28.580 in a Muslim nation, uh, in today's day and age in some cities. And so which, is it both? What is it?

01:35:35.260 It's a revenge problem now. So, so what you're hearing more and more from the left,

01:35:40.900 you know, Calvin is very conservative. I'm sort of more centrist, but you're hearing from the, um,

01:35:49.200 from the side, from that side, you're hearing you colonized us. This is our revenge. And what you,

01:35:57.040 what, what we're noting in Britain is that entire swathes of Britain are now totally unrecognizable

01:36:02.340 as British cities. Uh, certainly as I drive out of London, it's masks, it's called to prayer.

01:36:09.240 It's all of this. And America is going to face this too. So what we, what we're confronting is,

01:36:15.120 and I think that, that one of the main problems with, uh, British political discourse is nobody really

01:36:20.780 wants to talk about the elephant in the room, which is do Islamic values, are they, are they, 0.73

01:36:28.380 can they be compatible with Christian values of which Judeo-Christian society is built on,

01:36:32.920 or are they entirely antithetical to them? And I suppose that's a conversation we can have,

01:36:38.000 but we can't have that conversation while your border is open. We had a record number of, uh,

01:36:43.440 military-aged males arriving by themselves, 703 yesterday morning, arriving here. 703 men in a

01:36:51.000 generation becomes 40, uh, sorry, in two generations becomes 46,000 if, with the current reproductive rate

01:36:58.780 in the United Kingdom. We should, as a nation, be able to have a comment about that without being

01:37:04.400 called a racist. And I think that the riots that you're seeing and the, and the disorder you're seeing

01:37:10.040 is people are absolutely fed up for being called a racist while they can't get a doctor's appointment,

01:37:15.760 they can't see a dentist, and everybody who comes in, uh, illegally across our border is being given

01:37:21.640 a hotel room, free money, and a mobile phone. So there's two problems. So that is a major part of

01:37:26.260 the problem. The other side of that is that, so I used to be a teacher, right? I was an assistant

01:37:29.820 principal. I worked in schools for seven years. And all across that time in education, the government

01:37:34.740 would do anything to help any demographic except white working class. And white working class, 0.82

01:37:40.180 boys in particular, have been at the bottom of the league tables for over 20 years now. And that's

01:37:44.760 a problem because to address the joblessness issue that you just spoke about, we have no one to fill

01:37:49.920 those jobs. And so the government is saying, we need to bring people in from abroad because we're

01:37:53.720 going to address the GDP. We've got to get people doing all these manual labor jobs that our people

01:37:58.200 don't have the skills and talents that we need. And so we're having mass immigration to solve a 0.99

01:38:02.360 problem that is, again, created by the government who do not want to address white working class

01:38:06.440 as a demographic because to do so is racist. And diversity is all about helping minority groups,

01:38:11.900 even though Africans, Chinese students are at the top of the league tables. There's no oppression

01:38:17.580 in our education system on anybody's class or their working class roots. From the Murray piece that I

01:38:23.300 referenced, he says, similar to what you just said, from 2011 till today, all three main parties have

01:38:30.240 followed the same model on job creation, seemingly unable to actually improve education incentives

01:38:35.200 and job opportunities in these working class areas. They went for the easy route that was to 0.94

01:38:39.980 issue visas for migrants to come to the UK and to claim that the economy was growing as a result.

01:38:44.880 So he's suggesting there's a political motivation there. Of course, this growth, he writes, is almost

01:38:48.840 entirely faked. Study after study shows that this type of migration benefits the migrant naturally, 0.97

01:38:53.860 but does almost nothing to improve the actual economy. In fact, for many people,

01:38:57.800 it undercuts local labor and due to increased demand for housing and limited housing stock,

01:39:02.480 it makes their situation much worse. And he says at the time of the 2011 riots, because this happened,

01:39:09.100 you know, years ago as well, foreign born workers accounted for 14% of the UK workforce. Today,

01:39:14.960 it's at 21%. Employment has grown by 3.6 million since 2011, but fully 74% of this growth

01:39:24.260 is from immigrant workers. And so when the people rise up to say, we can't take it anymore, we've had 1.00

01:39:32.820 it. What they heard back from Keir Starmer was your racists and you're going to be arrested. Do I have

01:39:40.420 my facts right? Yes, absolutely. Enough is enough is what people are saying. And that's the economic

01:39:46.420 argument. So there aren't enough spaces in schools. Hospitals are overcrowded. People can't get jobs.

01:39:52.180 They're getting priced out. All of that is the economic argument that has been going on that I

01:39:55.980 think probably led to Brexit, to be honest with you. But now we've reached a worse point where

01:39:59.780 lives are being lost. And of course, three innocent girls lost their lives a couple of weeks ago,

01:40:04.700 and more people were seriously injured. And so this mass immigration is causing a problem that's 0.99

01:40:09.100 directly affecting people's lives, not just in the monetary sense, but in life and death situations.

01:40:14.660 But we're being sold this idea. It's the United Kingdom. We're being sold this idea that immigration, 0.51

01:40:21.080 diversity, all of this stuff is our strength. And the more and more economic studies come out,

01:40:25.800 we are finding that it's not British people, as you quite rightly pointed out. It's not 1.00

01:40:29.720 those people that were born here who pay taxes, who contribute to national wealth,

01:40:34.680 who are being looked after. Angela Rayner, the leader of the, oh God, she's not even in your position

01:40:40.220 now. She's the, she's actually, the government has turned around and said that she's going to

01:40:44.520 prioritise migrant families over British families when it comes to government funded housing.

01:40:51.060 And so what we're, what we're in a situation of is, we're talking about 30 million people here

01:40:57.780 are very, very, very upset. It's not a small number. So the government think that what they're

01:41:03.640 doing is stamping down on our necks and making us feel bad, but there's no economic argument for mass

01:41:08.900 migration and there's no cultural argument, mass migration. And that what there is, is a cultural

01:41:14.040 argument against both. And I think that people are very, very, very upset about this and that

01:41:19.160 Keir Starmer thinking that he's going to arrest everybody for saying herty words. Someone got

01:41:23.100 arrested for saying Allah, Allah, who the bleep is Allah. Someone was arrested. That's a blasphemy law 0.93

01:41:28.420 in the United Kingdom, which we do not have. So our culture is changing in a, in a, in a way,

01:41:33.700 which is so rapid and unprecedented, that people are worried to, to an absolutely deep level, aren't

01:41:41.780 they? And not also that we have no democratic means of changing it or making a difference. So

01:41:46.460 you spoke about how people are coming over the border in the States and being registered to

01:41:50.260 citizens so they can vote straight away. We have a similar situation. So we just had our 0.92

01:41:54.680 mayoral elections in London. The Mohammedan was elected for the third consecutive time, third

01:41:59.720 consecutive term. And we have no means of getting him out because white Brits are a minority 0.86

01:42:03.900 in the British capital city of London. So there's no way to get rid of these people.

01:42:07.980 The same with the Labour Party. In the last general election, the Labour Party got fewer

01:42:12.320 votes than they have in the last two elections that they've lost. But they still got in because

01:42:15.860 we've all given up on the Conservative Party. So what do we do? Where do we go? And so when

01:42:19.640 people don't have a democratic means to make a difference, they'll go to the streets. And this

01:42:23.180 is what we're seeing. And we're going to see more of it. But this morning was right.

01:42:25.820 But there are now coming, which I find hugely encouraging. There are a few Muslim voices

01:42:32.160 who are saying that we've got to be critical of our own religion and our own faith. And there

01:42:38.080 are coming forward now some Muslim voices who are saying, this needs to be looked at. We need

01:42:43.160 to talk about this. We can't just criticize Christian culture and all this sort of stuff. So I think

01:42:47.520 there is, I hope, a glimmer in the door because there isn't. There will be.

01:42:52.580 The question is whether that gains any sort of critical mass, which it hasn't thus far. This

01:42:56.540 is what this is another. Not that it's all about Douglas. I just our audience knows him.

01:43:00.520 But he was making this point. And it's one of the reasons they're trying to cancel him

01:43:04.820 from his position with the spectator and potentially get him arrested. But we played this the other

01:43:09.760 day. This is him in an interview back in a couple of years ago where he is saying if they

01:43:15.080 don't want to assimilate and they don't like this country, they should get out. This is just 1.00

01:43:20.020 last year. Take a listen. I don't want them to live here. I don't

01:43:25.100 want them here. They came under false pretenses. Many of them came illegally and continue to

01:43:31.820 come illegally. And we don't want them here. And I'm perfectly willing to say that because 1.00

01:43:36.960 it needs to be said. If I hated Australia, hated the Australian people, hated Australian history,

01:43:45.020 hated the Australian way of life, broke into the country illegally and spent my time trying to 1.00

01:43:50.000 undermine Australia, why should I be in Australia? Why? What would I have brought the country? What

01:43:56.700 benefit? What moral benefit? What financial benefit? What social benefit? The answer is you'd have

01:44:03.300 brought no benefit. So why, why just hope that those people are not in large enough numbers

01:44:11.540 and keep your fingers crossed and put it off for another day? I think we have to start saying very

01:44:17.680 clearly, if you don't like it here, go. And if you don't like it here and you intend to make it worse,

01:44:25.700 we will make you go. So is that, does that pretty much encapsulate the feeling of these people we're

01:44:34.740 seeing in the streets or just being dismissed as bigots? He makes a very good point, Douglas. And,

01:44:42.900 and, and this is the, the, the bit that everyone misses out of what he's saying is if it was Australians.

01:44:49.160 So what the left would like to do is make it about race, but we, we already have an economic problem,

01:44:56.140 which is you cannot bring a million people into a country with an already crumbling welfare state

01:45:00.860 and make it work. So the left will tell us that we're just as homophobic and racist, but actually

01:45:05.860 our country is already on its knees. So Douglas is right, but he's been saying this for years. And

01:45:12.100 also I think he's absolutely right. If you don't like our values, I, if I go to Morocco and I walk out of

01:45:18.120 the hotel door and I go and visit a local landmark, I'm, I cover my, you know, I take my shoes off and

01:45:24.160 I go into a mosque. Right. Which is, I wouldn't go to a mosque because I don't want to abide by their 1.00

01:45:28.140 culture. In this country, well, in the United Kingdom, by somewhere between 2013, 2050, it will

01:45:34.380 be predominantly Islamic. We'll have more Muslims than any other faith with current trajectories.

01:45:39.400 What J.D. Vance said. Right. This is a fact. But so therefore, if this is where the country's

01:45:43.160 heading, we should be allowed to have a conversation of, do we want to become an Islamic caliphate? Do we want 0.94

01:45:47.840 to remain a Christian country? Or do we want to be some kind of liberal secular society that we've

01:45:52.120 been dreaming of for the last 50 years? Which, which one do we want of the three and how do we

01:45:56.200 get there? But to have the conversation, to even raise the words Islam, Islamophobic straight away.

01:46:02.120 In fact, Megan, they're redefining Islamophobic in the Oxford English Dictionary. So it used to mean

01:46:07.100 an irrational fear of Islam. Of course, we, I would say there's nothing irrational about a fear of Islam,

01:46:11.840 but they've renamed it to a dislike of Islam. So I dislike Islam for many reasons. I think it's harmful 0.97

01:46:17.460 towards women, harmful towards homosexuals, harmful towards British values in Christian 1.00

01:46:21.340 society. Therefore, that would make me an Islamophobe. I mean, I think we're at the point 0.96

01:46:26.840 now where we have to accept their labels and just say, fine. I mean, that's how I am with

01:46:29.560 the transphobic stuff. Okay. You want to call me a turf? That's what I'm a turf. You want to call

01:46:33.540 me Islamophobic because I don't want my daughter to have to walk around in a burqa? Then I'm Islamic. 1.00

01:46:38.140 It's fine. Sick of their damn labels. This was something Christopher Hitchens predicted. This 1.00

01:46:43.980 clip has made the rounds, uh, since Keir Starmer is out there trying to shame all the protesters

01:46:50.120 into silence, um, where they, they split Christopher Hitchens's predictions and warnings about radical

01:46:57.320 Islam versus Keir Starmer today. Take a look at this up 42. Give it up or give it to your deadliest 1.00

01:47:06.460 enemy and pay for the rope that will choke you. This is very urgent business. Ladies and gentlemen,

01:47:13.120 I beseech you, resist it while you still can. And before the right to complain is taken

01:47:18.540 away from you, which will be the next thing you will be told you can't complain because

01:47:24.260 you're Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture as if it was an

01:47:30.600 accusation of race hatred, for example, or, or, or bigotry. Whereas it's only the objection

01:47:35.540 to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion. So barbarians never take a city till 0.96

01:47:40.500 someone who holds the gates open for them. And it's your own preachers who will do it

01:47:45.140 for you and your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you. Resist, resist it while 1.00

01:47:50.720 you can. One of the things that is coming up over and over again, um, is Islamophobia.

01:47:56.760 And, well, you can see the stats, you can see the numbers rising, particularly since October

01:48:00.840 the 7th. Although we shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that before October the 7th,

01:48:05.740 um, this was all heading in the right direction has been far too high for far too long. Clearly

01:48:10.940 we need to just say over and over again, um, Islamophobia is intolerable. Uh, it can never

01:48:16.980 ever be, uh, justified. And we have to continue with a zero tolerance approach. And I think there's

01:48:23.540 more we can do in government. There's certainly stuff online, which I think needs tackling.

01:48:27.540 It's very interesting that that clip, uh, of Chris Fitchin's was recorded in my friend,

01:48:40.140 Larry Taunton's, uh, meeting rooms in, in Britain. And, um, he and John Reynolds, the guy who's

01:48:48.240 speaking, uh, John Lennox, sorry, the guy who's sitting next to him is a really wonderful thinker

01:48:52.660 on this sort of stuff. And what Keir Starmer is doing is he's turning around and he's saying

01:48:57.120 dislike of any kind is somehow criminal. And I think it's totally okay to dislike things

01:49:02.880 that as Calvin said, you know, I dislike the idea of my, my, uh, a woman being covered. I

01:49:08.320 dislike the idea that the age of sexual consent is out the window. I dislike the fact that, um,

01:49:13.080 homosexuality, all the really genuinely progressive things that have happened in this society

01:49:17.140 are being thrown out of the window. And the only thing you're allowed to attack in the United

01:49:21.680 Kingdom is Christianity. Now that's not to say that Christianity is perfect and all of those 0.94

01:49:27.380 sorts of things, but why are we committing suicide? Douglas Murray said this in, in the strange death

01:49:32.720 of Europe, he said, we are not even on our own side anymore. And I think it's really important to

01:49:39.200 think, you know, we should be proud of the traditions of truly progressive traditions. Calvin would

01:49:44.060 disagree, but about the fact that we, we accept and acknowledge the fact that people are homosexual

01:49:48.600 and we, and we honor and respect and love them, but we are genuinely progressive. This regressive,

01:49:54.440 horrible, hateful ideology is taking place in our country. And what we have to do is take the knee

01:49:58.620 to it. I think that's absolutely appalling. Christopher Hitchens in that clip said, resist, resist while

01:50:05.080 you can. Now, I think the clip that you showed of Sakhir Starmer afterwards shows that it's too late

01:50:09.320 to resist actually. The progressives, the liberals have taken office. They are in government and they

01:50:15.700 are persecuting the oppressed minority who are the British people, the natives, the indigenous British

01:50:21.060 people who actually are Christian, whether culturally or religiously. And that is no longer appropriate, 1.00

01:50:25.540 no longer acceptable. And you cannot criticize any other faith that other than Christian. So it's too 0.98

01:50:30.480 late to resist by democratic means. So what comes next?

01:50:33.580 Certainly hope you're wrong about that. I want to pick up on something you said earlier, which is,

01:50:39.180 and where we started, which is, you know, the white working class in Great Britain, which has gotten the

01:50:42.620 shaft and no one gives a damn about what's happening with them. When they speak up, they'll be arrested.

01:50:46.860 They'll be called names by the prime minister and so on. It dovetails with the discussion we had. You guys

01:50:51.520 were not, we're not here as in our first hour with Maureen Callahan. And we were talking about the

01:50:55.640 coverage of our absurd presidential race here. There is a woman who wrote this piece in the

01:51:01.640 Bulwark, which is a magazine online publication dedicated to bringing down Trump. And this woman

01:51:08.020 is writing about how Trump's and his vice presidential candidate is a man child versus Tim

01:51:13.860 Walsh, the latest nominee for, you know, the V nominee for Kamala Harris's running mate, who's a

01:51:18.820 man's man. He's a man's man. Okay. And this is where I want to tie it together. So she's talking about

01:51:25.040 how Walsh is a good role male role model and Trump is not Trump is, uh, she thinks full of

01:51:31.920 braggadocio put downs and disrespect for women. And Tim Walsh is somehow not. He's all the things

01:51:40.220 we want in a man. He's your dad is what she's trying to say. And then here's how she tries to

01:51:44.740 bring it home. This is a leftist. Okay. Men are struggling in our society. Boys are falling behind

01:51:53.200 girls in grades and graduation rates. Men are falling behind women in college attendance,

01:51:57.440 participation in the labor force and connection to family and friends. Men are more likely than

01:52:01.780 women to be lonely and to succumb to deaths of despair. It's not a man's world anymore. Even if 0.96

01:52:07.260 some have been slow to notice boys and men are picking up the signals that there is something

01:52:12.020 inherently wrong with them. The word masculinity is hardly uttered in some precincts without the

01:52:18.660 modifier toxic. And then she goes on to blame it all on Trump and Republicans saying they need a guy 0.57

01:52:26.540 like this Tim Walsh to, to take them back to the promised land of hopefulness for boys and men.

01:52:34.300 This made my blood boil because it is uniformly the left that has done this to boys and men. And in

01:52:44.860 particular white working class boys and men over and over again. And for her to shrug her shoulders

01:52:52.440 and say, I just don't know. We were just having this cultural problem. And I think having Trump

01:52:57.860 out there as a representative of toxic masculinity is not going to help these boys at all is so blind

01:53:05.300 to the left's causal role in all of this. Nobody knows this better than you, Lawrence.

01:53:12.060 You and I have talked before many times about how you guys both got booted off of GB news,

01:53:17.740 a more conservative news outlet, or was supposed to be over in the UK. Why? Because you were trying

01:53:23.120 to defend what's happening with men and suicide rates over there against this caustic woman who 1.00

01:53:29.820 was refusing to acknowledge it. And you did it, not the queen's English. And you defended him, Calvin.

01:53:35.080 And both of you, before you knew it, were gone from GB. And I left GB voluntarily over that whole thing.

01:53:39.240 Um, so can you speak to just the blindness of the left in looking at this problem, whether it's guys

01:53:47.940 without jobs, guys without hope, guys without any thought that they could be respected in society

01:53:55.340 and their role in causing those root issues?

01:53:59.880 You, you were, you were an inspiration of mine because it's very difficult in life to, to, to reverse a position

01:54:09.960 and to look at things in a different way. And you, when you first started talking about the trans issue,

01:54:14.960 for example, you, you were, you were really high on inclusiveness, understanding and all that sort of stuff.

01:54:21.540 What we have had is there's a systematic attack on masculinity, full stop, because if you attack

01:54:28.040 masculinity, you destroy the family. If you destroy the family, you make the children available to be 0.94

01:54:32.200 dominated and indoctrinated by the state. The British state has already announced that it's going to teach

01:54:37.540 children about hate crimes, about what it is to hate. And we are actually witnessing a war

01:54:45.020 on the family and on people and on those that love each other across many different divides,

01:54:51.420 which was very progressive. And I am, Calvin is better on this than I am, but we should absolutely

01:54:58.760 stand as a bulwark against the fact that Keir Starmer, you've got, you've got this guy who's

01:55:03.880 pretending to be a vice president. He's pretending to be a moderate, um, VP pick who is trying to say

01:55:09.920 that the state can take, should take your child away. If your child wants to be, um, transitioned, 1.00

01:55:14.680 this, the, the man that lit Minneapolis, Minneapolis, sorry, be absolutely run riot and burned to the 0.95

01:55:22.060 ground. And he's now turning around and saying, leave me alone. These are, these, these are the

01:55:26.760 people that, these are machinery of socialism. They're, they're absolutely vile. Sorry, I'm not 0.54

01:55:32.700 good now. You speak. Yeah. Lawrence is spot on. I mean, we have, um, Keir Starmer saying that he's going

01:55:38.020 to teach children how to spot fake news in school and how to spot the far right. And of course, his

01:55:43.520 definition of the far right is very different to everyone else's definition of the far right,

01:55:47.080 it seems. So what he means by that is, is he's going to indoctrinate children in schools. He's

01:55:51.320 going to do it very overtly, but this is part of a wider problem in that we've handed children over

01:55:55.560 to the state. Children used to be the responsibility of parents. And now all of a sudden we get used to

01:56:00.820 handing them over to the state, get them taught, get them indoctrinated, get them back and expect them 0.91

01:56:06.200 to have high grades and be good people. It's the parent's job, the parent's responsibility to make

01:56:10.740 sure their kids are learning well and receiving good values. First and foremost, schools supplement

01:56:15.480 that. Schools do not replace that. We've got to get our mentality changed. In the UK, we don't have

01:56:19.840 homeschooling. We don't have home education in the way you guys do in the US. I think that what you're

01:56:24.740 doing out there with the home educating schemes are fantastic. These hubs of children getting together

01:56:29.240 with parents or with parishes to learn with respectable teachers and stuff, but under the guise of

01:56:35.320 their parents, under the guidance of their parents, not under the hammer of the state, because the state

01:56:39.840 cannot impose values on people. The state doesn't have a religion. The state doesn't have a set of

01:56:44.160 values other than what we see. Power and control. Absolutely. And also we need to understand and

01:56:50.260 everyone needs to remember that they work for us. Absolutely. And we've forgotten this. And I don't

01:56:55.580 understand when we forgot it because I was raised by my father told me they work for you. And in

01:57:00.800 whatever's happened in the last 20 years or 25 years, we've started to think that we work for them.

01:57:05.840 Right. And Keir Starmer thinks that he's doing us a favour by locking up people who say herty words.

01:57:11.920 It goes to show that, and Victor Davis-Hunson also, sorry, Megan, to be annoying, but the other thing

01:57:17.460 that Victor Davis-Hunson says, which is really, really important, which is that white working class 0.53

01:57:22.740 kids in America go to die and they're overly represented by 50% in their demographic of people

01:57:30.060 that go to die for their country. And they are told that they're full of white rage and that they're full of

01:57:35.200 some big problem. And then, you know, Trump is some symptom, dreadful, sort of awful thing. It's like, 0.97

01:57:41.840 no, we're not about ethnicity. We're about faith. We're about faith, not statism. And it boils down to

01:57:48.700 the individual. So you don't even need to be a Christian to believe in the power ahead of the state.

01:57:53.420 That thing about Trump, though, it shows the left is so superficial. They look at him as a person rather than

01:57:57.940 his policies or what he would bring. I find that even with people on the right, people say, how can you vote for,

01:58:02.380 how can you like Trump? You're a Christian. He's a very bad man. He's done this, that, 0.53

01:58:05.560 and the other. And it's like, well, he's a politician. None of them are good men. In fact,

01:58:08.800 none of them, you're not going to find a perfect politician. What you've got to find is someone

01:58:12.800 who will implement the policies that are in line with your values. And for me, that would be Donald

01:58:16.740 Trump, certainly over Kamala Harris. But then you look at these nice, I don't care how she wants to 0.99

01:58:21.860 pronounce her name. You look at these people like Walls who like to put themselves as a perfect

01:58:25.640 individual. And of course, we know there are lots of things that are repressed there.

01:58:28.580 So Keir Starmer is another one. Looks well-polished, but he gets into office immediately. He's

01:58:33.080 implemented communism in the first four weeks. So how someone appears isn't what matters. It's

01:58:37.480 the policies they bring to the table. Right. And over here, it's just a guessing game on exactly

01:58:42.180 how far left they'll take us. It passes prologue as far left as we've ever gone. I'll end on this.

01:58:49.940 We've done a lot of Douglas. He did seem to offer a bit of hope, at least for America, which we'd love

01:58:57.640 to have you guys over here. But you tell me whether you agree with this piece of his interview

01:59:02.100 with PragerU. There is a deep, deep distrust among the political class in the UK about the British

01:59:11.100 public. They really don't seem to like them. They're so eager to attack the general public

01:59:16.380 and cover over for anything else. And I think it's just a lamentable and suicidal policy.

01:59:25.180 The saving grace in America is some kind of belief in the goodness of the American people.

01:59:30.760 And that's taken a beating. My goodness, the education system has done everything it can

01:59:38.260 to bash the innate goodness out of the American people. And I think there is a feeling that despite

01:59:45.620 the things happening from right and left and all the fears and confusion we're all living through,

01:59:51.020 I do still think there is this thing that America is good and has been a force for good in the world

02:00:01.020 and can be again. And give us the possibility that the 21st century will not be this dark age.

02:00:08.620 If that happens, you know, the future really is ours. If it doesn't happen, the future belongs to

02:00:15.080 goodness knows who. And if people, as I always say, if people think the era of American dominance was

02:00:21.760 awful and, you know, oppressive, you wouldn't like any of the rivals.

02:00:30.360 Hmm. What do you guys make of that?

02:00:33.380 What a wise man he is. And John Anderson, who you played a clip with earlier, I spoke to John,

02:00:41.640 and he said that as the world begins to crumble, as the West begins to fall,

02:00:45.740 eyes will fall on Great Britain, because we have had a thousand years of pretty continuous

02:00:50.020 civility. But actually, I think now the eyes are going to fall on America,

02:00:56.980 because America is a constantly evolving and fluctuating idea. And Britain, we are just trying

02:01:03.200 to stop our churches being burnt down at this juncture. So I think the eyes of the world should turn to

02:01:08.400 America, the eyes of the world, the independence of this world, which you speak to a lot, the

02:01:13.360 independent voters of this world have a choice between socialism and freedom. And I think the

02:01:20.580 eyes of the world should turn to America at this juncture. And I'm lucky to live in a world where

02:01:24.560 America is.

02:01:25.500 I think what Douglas was saying is very similar to what Lawrence was saying about, we used to expect

02:01:29.280 our politicians to serve us, we expected them to have a sense of duty and obligation to the people

02:01:34.160 they're supposed to represent, that now they seem to think they're there to govern us and rule over

02:01:38.780 us. But that's not their fault. That's our fault. We have been saying, govern me harder, daddy,

02:01:42.520 govern me harder, daddy. Look at COVID, for example, save us, do something, tell us what to do.

02:01:47.660 Instead of actually just men standing up and say, I am the leader of my family. You know what,

02:01:51.840 we're going to stay away from granny because one of us has got symptoms, or we're not going to 1.00

02:01:55.380 go out in public today, but we're not going to wear those stupid nappies on our faces. It's like just 0.99

02:01:59.140 men need to stand up and man up and be men, be the leaders of our society. Stop looking up to the

02:02:03.780 government and say, what do we do next, please? How close can I sit next to Lawrence today?

02:02:08.040 It's ridiculous. So the problem is us, not necessarily the politicians, because we get 0.84

02:02:11.600 the politicians that we deserve. And this is why America is thriving where Britain is dying,

02:02:15.920 because America still believes in freedom. British people, generally speaking, no longer

02:02:20.380 believe in freedom. We want to be governed. We want safetyism. Safety comes above freedom for us,

02:02:25.180 unfortunately. This is why we gave up our guns in 97. Safetyism, safetyism, same with Brexit,

02:02:30.520 same with COVID, all of these situations, we want the government to tell us what to do.

02:02:33.780 And we need to take back control and actually regain our freedom and look to America because

02:02:37.760 America is the last stand for Christendom, for the West at the moment. America is the last place 0.90

02:02:42.120 in the West that still believes in Christ and still believes in freedom. So God bless America.

02:02:48.320 Lawrence, Calvin, you see why we love them. You can listen to them. They are free with their own

02:02:53.460 messaging and show right now. It's on YouTube and it's called Fox and Father. It's on other platforms as

02:02:59.680 well. We love, love, love, love seeing them do well and listening to them. Thank you guys both

02:03:03.660 so much. Thank you. God bless. God bless you. Incredible pair. Oh my gosh. Pay attention because

02:03:09.560 what's happening over there is happening here too. And while it's a smaller country, they have exactly

02:03:14.600 the same problems that we have. And it's just, they've had a lot of immigration and it's happened 0.99

02:03:18.540 in a smaller time because they have a smaller number of citizens. But if you don't think that four

02:03:24.280 more years of open borders is going to drastically affect the character of this country, you haven't

02:03:28.420 been paying attention. Thank you for watching. We're going to see you Monday. Have a good weekend.

02:03:35.280 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - August 15, 2024

Harris Agrees to Interview...with Walz, and ＂Dangerous＂ Speech Crackdown, with Maureen Callahan, Laurence Fox, and Calvin Robinson ｜ Ep. 863

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