The Megyn Kelly Show - Harris Steals Trump's ＂No Tax on Tips＂ Plan, and New Walz Military Controversies, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson ｜ Ep. 859

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00:00:31.200 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.540 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:45.940 the media's disgusting gaslighting of America.

00:00:49.360 That is where we begin today before the EJs join us in one moment. 0.99

00:00:52.860 We were gaslit on President Joe Biden's mental acuity for years.

00:00:56.540 As recently as March, we had MSNBC telling us this was the best Joe Biden ever.

00:01:02.300 Most cognitively fit, better than ever.

00:01:05.140 And then they were exposed at that debate.

00:01:07.680 But the lie was never acknowledged. They just moved on.

00:01:11.640 Same for Vice President Kamala Harris.

00:01:13.900 She defended the president as totally fine, mentally robust even.

00:01:17.500 For years, never came clean.

00:01:19.960 Just quietly subbed in for him.

00:01:21.960 And three weeks later, hasn't said one word about any of it.

00:01:28.720 The same media is now telling us Harris is suddenly a wordsmith.

00:01:33.920 Someone who speaks with merry conviction, has social warmth.

00:01:39.420 And that was from the Wall Street Journal.

00:01:41.140 Imagine what the left is saying about her and is tougher.

00:01:45.140 She's tougher than the guy who just got shot in the face and rose up with a fist pump.

00:01:51.240 The same media is telling us that those two Olympic boxers who won gold medals this weekend did not test XY and are, in fact, female.

00:02:02.120 But they did test XY, and they are male.

00:02:06.200 The International Boxing Association is on record through its doctor saying as much.

00:02:10.540 And now we've had the former NBC and LA Times reporter, Alan Abramson, come forward and verify earlier reports that he personally saw the test results and they showed male.

00:02:20.920 Similarly, Amin Khalif, the one boxer from Algeria, her trainer, his trainer, has revealed, reports Redux Mag, that a French hospital found a problem with Khalif's chromosomes and that Khalif was well aware he, quote, might not be a girl.

00:02:37.540 Well, this, as the commissioner of the Spanish Boxing League, comes forward to reveal that Khalif was considered too dangerous for women to fight in Spain, saying, quote, whoever we put Khalif with was injured, end quote, and that they had to pair Khalif with one of Spain's top male boxers before finding an even match for Khalif. 0.98

00:02:59.040 Even the IOC, which had been maintaining that these two boxers were female based on their passport identifications as female, appeared to give up the game this weekend, saying, quote, it is not as easy as some may now want to portray it, that the XX or the XY is the clear distinction between the men and the women.

00:03:21.300 This is scientifically not true anymore, and therefore, these two are women. 1.00

00:03:27.780 Again, they're not.

00:03:30.400 You got XY, you're male. 0.96

00:03:32.620 And these two have XY, according to more sources now than I can count. 0.99

00:03:37.680 And a woman is going to get killed if we keep allowing this. 0.99

00:03:42.740 This same media is telling us that Governor Tim Walz did not quit the National Guard in order to avoid going to Iraq, that he filed his paperwork to quit the Guard before he got any notice that he was being deployed.

00:03:56.780 That's not true either.

00:03:58.840 We know for a fact that Mr. Walz was told he would be getting deployed in March of 2005.

00:04:04.740 There was a notice saying it's coming.

00:04:06.640 And his office publicly circulated that notice at the time.

00:04:10.240 We've seen it.

00:04:10.820 But a commander from his unit told CNN over the weekend that it actually was earlier than that, that Mr. Walz and the unit knew, the commanders, well before Walz filed any papers to run for Congress, that they were going out.

00:04:24.900 They were about to get deployed and that that notice came as early as the fall of 2004.

00:04:28.360 In any event, Walz did not quit the Guard until May 2005.

00:04:33.740 That was three months after the written notice that he'd likely be going.

00:04:36.720 And it's true that while the final official deployment notice didn't come until July, Walz knew well before July that he was likely going to Iraq with his unit.

00:04:45.760 And there's no question that he quit anyway.

00:04:48.660 Everything else is revisionist history.

00:04:51.380 All right.

00:04:51.760 He quit knowing they were about to be deployed.

00:04:57.400 That is a fact.

00:04:59.260 The same media telling us that he made a mistake when he exaggerated his rank in the National Guard repeatedly, something he continues to do, that he misspoke when he claimed he served in war, which he didn't, that he misspoke again when he said or allowed others to say that he served in Operation Enduring Freedom.

00:05:21.540 Meaning the war in Afghanistan, meaning the war in Afghanistan, which he didn't.

00:05:23.680 He misspeaks a lot and always in one direction.

00:05:28.360 This same dishonest partisan hack media is telling us that Governor Walz did not make Minnesota a refuge for kids with gender confusion, that he did not sign a law allowing young children to come to Minnesota, fleeing their parents who do not wish for them to cut off their healthy genitals, that he did not allow courts to take custody of these young confusions.

00:05:51.540 And allow minors to sterilize and mutilate themselves away from their loving parents, but he did.

00:05:59.320 He did exactly that.

00:06:01.740 And finally, they're telling us that Tim Walz did not sign a law mandating tampons in all grades four through 12 bathrooms, including the boys bathrooms, except he did.

00:06:14.540 And there's no doubt about it.

00:06:16.320 A woman named Jill Berkham with the Minneapolis Star Tribune, a hack paper dedicated to helping Democrats, wrote a piece over the weekend trying to argue that because the law has not yet been followed in one large school district in Minnesota.

00:06:31.700 Instead, they're putting tampons only in their gender neutral and their girls rooms that the law must not include the mandate. 0.89

00:06:39.860 It says it does.

00:06:42.180 I have news for you, Jill.

00:06:43.840 The fact that a district is ignoring the law does not invalidate the law itself.

00:06:49.020 And if a trans student sued that school district tomorrow for noncompliance, they'd win. 1.00

00:06:54.220 The law says tampons must be made available to menstruating students in all bathrooms used by kids in grades four through 12.

00:07:04.760 Republicans tried to amend the bill to limit the language to only girls bathrooms. 0.71

00:07:12.380 That amendment was defeated.

00:07:15.820 The sponsor of the law said, quote, trans boys, meaning girls pretending to be boys, need tampons, too.

00:07:24.860 And therefore, sanitary products must be placed in the boys rooms. 0.96

00:07:30.920 So the products must be available to all menstruating students.

00:07:34.120 I think there was some discussion earlier about boys' bathrooms.

00:07:38.700 Would that allow a school district, at least now, especially in the elementary age, to not have to put these products into the boys' bathroom?

00:07:48.680 The school requires that schools provide free period products in all student bathrooms, grades four through 12. 0.82

00:07:54.420 Trans boys menstruate. 1.00

00:07:57.160 And they use boys' bathrooms and would need these products in order to ensure that all menstruating students have full access to period products. 0.82

00:08:08.300 It is important that we include them in all bathrooms where trans students who menstruate may need to access them.

00:08:16.380 Okay.

00:08:17.900 That woman won the argument. 1.00

00:08:20.620 And now the law is perfectly clear.

00:08:22.800 The mandate is unambiguous.

00:08:24.260 And while Jill points to a clause that says a plan must be developed by the school district for the implementation of the law, that does not allow the law to be ignored.

00:08:34.640 Jill, let me give you a little legal lesson. 0.87

00:08:36.640 That's not how laws work.

00:08:38.340 You don't say here's a mandate, but then you can totally ignore the mandate if you want to ignore the mandate.

00:08:43.260 Implementation speaks to how the law will be complied with.

00:08:46.660 For example, what amount of tampons to put in the boys' rooms versus the girls' rooms.

00:08:52.380 This was specifically debated as the law was under consideration with an understanding that the boys' rooms could have fewer supplies.

00:09:01.600 But whether to comply with the mandate is not up for debate.

00:09:04.120 It's a law.

00:09:05.440 Tampons to any menstruating student in all bathrooms four through 12. 0.67

00:09:09.160 And Minnesota believes trans boys menstruate. 0.91

00:09:12.840 That they use boys' bathrooms. 0.99

00:09:14.760 And those bathrooms must stock up on tampax. 1.00

00:09:18.200 By the way, so offended was Star Tribune reporter Jill Berkham with my reporting that she encouraged yours truly to try doing some journalism.

00:09:27.360 I guess to come up with a misleading, legally misguided report just like hers.

00:09:32.460 Maybe I'll do that, Jill, and become a reporter just like you, who no one has ever heard of doing partisan hack journalism for a dishonest paper that has endorsed nothing but Democratic presidential candidates for the last 40 years.

00:09:43.300 To be clear, you needn't even be a reporter to figure out how this law works.

00:09:50.260 Being able to read and understand a statute is sufficient.

00:09:55.500 Maybe Jill can't do that because she's not an attorney, but I can, and the law is clear.

00:10:00.100 It's a mandate.

00:10:01.600 As for Jill and her stellar journalism advice, I think I'm going to pass.

00:10:06.500 We decided to pull some of Jill's very journalism-y musings for the Star Tribune editorial board on which she sits.

00:10:14.140 And I got to say, I'm slightly doubtful about Jill's objectivity.

00:10:18.680 Just a few examples.

00:10:20.460 She and her board urged Trump to quit the presidential race back in 2016.

00:10:24.820 She and her pals called Trump a disgrace after the business records case conviction celebrated the label of conviction.

00:10:54.820 Convicted felon and chastised voters who still plan to vote for Trump.

00:11:00.000 See, Jill knows better. 1.00

00:11:01.660 In the COVID madness, Jill and her colleagues defended mask mandates, begged for booster shots.

00:11:06.560 And as recently as 2022, Jill personally expressed a vague hope that maybe someday, this is 2022, someday, quote,

00:11:17.860 With vigilance, COVID-19 will be more manageable.

00:11:22.640 But for the time being, encouraged vaccinating, boosting, masking up again, switching over to remote work, putting other mitigation measures back in place.

00:11:32.120 She and her paper backed DEI in Minnesota schools, naturally.

00:11:36.540 Such an objective journalist doing so much journalism-ing.

00:11:39.780 As soon as Waltz was picked by Harris, Jill and her board buds celebrated the choice, writing, Waltz makes the ticket.

00:11:46.560 Good.

00:11:47.540 Then Jill personally tweeted a link to the Harris campaign's lies about Trump supposedly blessing Tim Waltz's handling of the Minneapolis riots.

00:11:57.320 Commenting, well then, Jill, what happened to the journalism?

00:12:02.980 That was a fake news report.

00:12:05.100 Or were you too busy trying to find a school district blowing off the tampon mandate to do some real reporting on what happened in your own state?

00:12:15.240 On August 6th, she tweeted this about Waltz's first campaign speech.

00:12:19.840 Oh, Waltz went there with the couch reference.

00:12:24.360 So fun and what a moment to celebrate and circulate, Jill.

00:12:28.820 Tim Waltz, for whom it appears lying is a signature move, lies again.

00:12:33.820 But it's so fun because it makes J.D. Vance look bad.

00:12:37.660 Did you journalism there, Jill?

00:12:40.000 Did you report that this was a disgusting smear?

00:12:42.660 You know, like you did on all the Tim Waltz stuff that was actually true?

00:12:47.440 Didn't see it.

00:12:48.640 Maybe it's still coming.

00:12:49.840 I'll wait.

00:12:51.320 The point here is not to pick on some sad little lady whose Democrat dreams may be endangered by her hero, Tim Waltz's far left policies.

00:12:58.840 The point is Jill and her paper and this disgusting, enabling, lying, partisan hack media are gaslighting us all on so many important issues.

00:13:10.260 And there is no choice for those of us who can still report truthfully, who, one, are able to do that, capable of doing that, and two, have the platforms to do so that we must.

00:13:25.100 That we must do so all the time, no matter what.

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00:14:16.460 Joining me now, two people who know that very well.

00:14:18.940 Emily Jashinsky is DC correspondent for Unheard and host of the new show, Undercurrents.

00:14:24.920 And Eliana Johnson is editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon and co-host of the Ink Stained Wretches podcast.

00:14:31.000 Together, they are the EJs, and they join me now.

00:14:34.520 Ladies, great to see you. 1.00

00:14:36.840 My head's going to explode with all the insanity and gaslighting that we are experiencing on those and many other fronts,

00:14:45.500 which is what inspired me to just write down some thoughts on it.

00:14:48.940 I'll start with you, Eliana, on your reaction.

00:14:51.540 The media coverage of this campaign, I think, is the most overblown positive coverage for a Democrat that we've seen in quite a long time.

00:15:02.280 What I'm most struck by is that Kamala Harris, and I don't blame her, has not sat for an interview, has not conducted a press conference,

00:15:12.680 while at the same time throwing overboard her stated positions from the 2019-2020 campaign on fracking,

00:15:19.460 on Medicare for All, on mandatory gun buybacks, excuse me, on ICE, which she said, you know, we need to start from scratch in terms of how we handle illegal immigrants.

00:15:32.460 And I think a press that was really interested in covering this would be demanding answers from her as to how and why did you come to the position that you no longer believe in those things?

00:15:46.860 What happened here, as opposed to simply reporting that she's changed her position and allowing her to make statements through anonymous aides?

00:15:54.500 And it really does matter because she is right now there's she has no policy platform on her website. 1.00

00:16:01.800 She's campaigning on on vibes.

00:16:03.620 So I think you've hit on something on something really important.

00:16:07.140 And I'll wait to to circle back on Walls and his military service and and and so on, given that I really do think at the end of the day,

00:16:15.700 this race is going to be fought between Trump and Harris.

00:16:20.180 But as you mentioned, the Walls thing is simply indicative of the way that the media is covering this race right now.

00:16:27.360 I mean, covering like, you know, like.

00:16:33.620 Thank you. I mean, Megan, somebody in the middle of Montana underneath their quilts who's got Raynaud's disease like I do or your circulation doesn't work that well.

00:16:41.860 That's how much they're covering. Go ahead, Eliana.

00:16:43.960 What are you the same? You know, we've seen the same story written in three different outlets, the AP, the Washington Post.

00:16:50.160 And I forget the third one off the top of my head right now that as Kamala Harris campaigns on joy and excitement, Trump offers dark themes.

00:16:58.720 And NBC News might be the third. But quite literally, we're seeing the same headlines multiply across the mainstream media.

00:17:07.480 Well, there is no examination of the number of serious issues on which the Democratic presidential nominee now has flip flopped and a demand for answers on about why.

00:17:25.120 Yeah, it's so frustrating, Emily. I mean, we know that the press is dishonest, that they're in the tank for Democrats, but on their favorite issues, whether it's defending Kamala, defending Joe for a while, defending Tim Walsh now defending the fake, you know, sexual labels in terms of sex identification.

00:17:45.360 All of it. It their lies must be protected. People who report what is real must be destroyed.

00:17:53.320 And their little cabal, I guess, just sits back and pats themselves on the back about how they get away with it.

00:18:01.280 They change the national narrative and they are hoping people like us will just be screaming into the wilderness.

00:18:08.960 But it's not working that I that's actually not working. And I'll bet you dollars to donuts.

00:18:14.000 Somebody like little Jill Berkham did not think that I would respond to her.

00:18:18.800 But I will, Jill, because I'm not afraid of you. You don't control me.

00:18:23.460 You don't control any entity for whom I work. I work for myself.

00:18:26.640 And frankly, you can F off with all your journalistic pretenses, given your disgusting partisan hack record. 0.90

00:18:33.600 Go ahead, Emily. 0.84

00:18:35.020 Well, yeah. And those are the people that are asking for the public's trust.

00:18:38.020 They're the ones that have demonstrable records of double standards.

00:18:41.300 And they're the ones that are demanding that the public trust them.

00:18:44.380 And the public has obviously stopped buying it.

00:18:46.680 Now, that said, one of the things that struck me about your amazing opening there is that the these people, the gatekeepers, elite gatekeepers,

00:18:54.220 they've never been less powerful. They are still powerful.

00:18:58.580 You know, there's a new survey out showing that words people are associating with J.D. Vance are now extreme.

00:19:04.340 The word extreme, the word weird.

00:19:06.040 And what's so creepy about that is you could run a narrative on Tim Walsh or Kamala Harris about their policies on children and LGBT issues, the tampon policy.

00:19:17.420 You could do that. The media could choose to focus on that just as much as they focused on an old J.D. Vance comment on the childless cat ladies.

00:19:24.360 They could choose to do stuff like that about the very current policies of Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh.

00:19:29.660 And they could probably shift public opinion a little bit by doing it because there's something to work with there.

00:19:34.680 But even when they don't really have something to work with, they're able to still manipulate public opinion in to a certain extent.

00:19:41.940 But what's freaking them out and what's freaking people like your friend Jill out, Megan, is that they're losing that power.

00:19:47.700 They're losing that power because people like yourself are in these spaces and telling the truth.

00:19:54.460 And that's really frightening for people in the elite media because they're not used to not being the gatekeepers.

00:20:00.240 So it's amazing, astounding, the fact that they're giving, I think this is coverage like Obama got.

00:20:05.700 I think Kamala Harris, who is a much worse candidate than President Obama was in 2008, she's now getting the same level of coverage as he is.

00:20:14.360 And everything else is just being totally tuned out.

00:20:16.400 And their total ability to manipulate public opinion is they don't have it right now like they used to.

00:20:22.620 And they're lashing out.

00:20:24.080 It's very frustrating for them.

00:20:26.060 They really are used to having a complete monopoly on the messaging.

00:20:28.620 But for Fox, there'd be the annoying Fox News.

00:20:31.520 But that was it.

00:20:32.420 That's the only one they had to deal with.

00:20:33.920 And now things have just completely changed.

00:20:36.160 To your point, Eliana, Kamala Harris, she spent 71 seconds speaking to the press on Friday because J.D. Vance has been everywhere saying, where is she?

00:20:51.000 And this is supposed to suffice for an interview, I guess, or some sort of a press conference.

00:20:58.460 And honestly, the lapdog media says, OK, yeah, that did suffice.

00:21:04.060 We got access to her.

00:21:05.400 And what what tough exchanges do they have ready?

00:21:08.960 And don't tell me that they weren't ready for her to just pop back into the plane and ask her a question.

00:21:12.200 If you are covering campaign, you have your best questions in your back pocket, ready to go in case something like this happens.

00:21:19.200 So she pops back here, back there.

00:21:21.760 And what is she asked about?

00:21:24.380 This critical matter.

00:21:25.660 Listen.

00:21:25.840 There's been a lot of questions about when you're going to sit down for your first interview since being the nominee.

00:21:31.740 I've talked to my team.

00:21:33.360 I want us to get an interview scheduled before the end of the month.

00:21:37.220 So the question is, when are we going to ask more questions?

00:21:40.800 When can we ask more questions?

00:21:42.000 And the answer is a noncommittal, like I hope, to maybe schedule something before the end of the month.

00:21:48.640 Maybe we'll schedule something.

00:21:52.100 Isn't that from the head of the White House Correspondents Association as well?

00:21:54.960 I believe that was Eugene Daniels, who's currently the head of the White House Correspondents Association.

00:21:59.120 So somebody who should really be at the top of the.

00:22:01.600 Isn't he the political guy, Eugene Daniels?

00:22:03.940 Yep.

00:22:04.480 Yep.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, he's the hack who was calling Brian Kilmeade a racist for saying college.

00:22:09.800 And he said she said colored and he ran with it. 0.96

00:22:13.060 I don't know if that's the one who asked that question, but that's what that Eugene guy from Politico did.

00:22:16.920 He ought to be ashamed of himself.

00:22:18.060 Go ahead, Aliana, because that's not going to cut it. 0.76

00:22:20.480 It shouldn't cut it.

00:22:21.400 But the reason the press is not melting down saying this is effed up.

00:22:26.540 You know, there was a day in which the White House press corps would start boycotting.

00:22:29.980 They would throw an absolute fit if they had no access to a campaign like this.

00:22:34.660 When we're, you know, weeks away from voting starting.

00:22:37.540 She's not given one interview, even on the switcheroo.

00:22:40.480 Her in for Biden, never mind her policy. 0.96

00:22:42.500 There's nothing on her website.

00:22:43.980 Maybe this week, they said, we'll get some policies.

00:22:46.420 This is madness.

00:22:47.160 Yeah, and I don't want to underplay the significance of the coverage, even though the grip of the mainstream media has been loosening since, you know, bloggers appeared on the scene in the early 2000s.

00:23:03.340 It really, really matters.

00:23:05.300 And again, I don't blame Kamala Harris.

00:23:08.540 I blame the press for continuing to write positive stories, despite her refusal to answer serious questions.

00:23:17.140 But she's not even being put.

00:23:19.040 Serious questions aren't even being put to her.

00:23:21.380 And it is significant because part of the vibes that she's writing is the positive media coverage that we're seeing every day, which is she's running a joyful campaign while Trump is, you know, offering themes of darkness.

00:23:43.340 And, you know, we can talk about Trump later.

00:23:45.480 I don't think things are going so great there.

00:23:47.640 However, in the real world, in the real fact-based world, media coverage would be about her tightly controlled campaign and the reasons for it, including that every time she spoke extemporaneously in 2019, things went quite poorly.

00:24:07.500 It was in a CNN town hall, unscripted, not on a teleprompter, when she said she was all in favor of banning fracking in 2019.

00:24:16.240 And it was off the cuff when she said she wanted to abolish Medicare for all.

00:24:20.960 All of these statements that she has been forced to repudiate this time around in 2024 were things she said in off the cuff.

00:24:28.180 She wants to abolish private health insurance. 0.99

00:24:30.260 Yeah, abolish private health insurance.

00:24:32.380 And that is why she's not out on the trail.

00:24:37.180 But we really have not seen a piece of hard-hitting news coverage explaining to people why she is not sitting for interviews.

00:24:44.420 She's not very good at that.

00:24:45.460 And yet there's J.D. Vance everywhere.

00:24:50.560 You know, I mean, you're not seeing walls either.

00:24:52.740 Where's his big sit-down?

00:24:54.100 Where's his big come to Jesus?

00:24:55.280 So we can ask him these questions. 0.98

00:24:56.400 Why did you think it was fine to take custody away from loving parents and give it to the state so that they could have genitals chopped off? 1.00

00:25:02.560 Why was that a good idea? 0.78

00:25:03.840 Why did you make your state a sanctuary for those people?

00:25:06.440 Why did you say repeatedly you were part of Operation Enduring Freedom when you weren't?

00:25:11.620 You went to Italy.

00:25:12.420 You never picked up a gun in war as you claimed.

00:25:15.140 Why did you do that?

00:25:16.080 Why did you blow off those vets who came to your office to say, please stop doing this?

00:25:19.500 It's stolen valor. 0.99

00:25:20.600 You just fucking blew them off like they were nothing. 0.99

00:25:22.480 Why did you, all these guys from your unit, come out and say they felt abandoned? 1.00

00:25:26.720 Are they asshole liars making up lies about you? 0.99

00:25:29.720 Or do you think you might have handled this very poorly and made a decision that left them feeling abandoned? 1.00

00:25:34.740 No, he's not gonna sit with me. 0.95

00:25:36.500 But somebody with some balls needs to ask him some questions too. 0.97

00:25:40.800 Instead, what we're getting, Emily, is they're underground. 0.91

00:25:44.300 Sure, they're joyful because they're coasting through an election without a single hard-hitting question coming their way.

00:25:51.100 Or a primary campaign.

00:25:53.500 Yeah, they have nothing to be upset about.

00:25:55.240 They should be floating on air right now.

00:25:56.760 Absolutely.

00:25:57.420 And to the point about waltz, the first question I would actually ask Kamala Harris if I were, I was thinking this when that interview happened.

00:26:03.860 The first thing I would have asked her about was because that waltz LGBT kids policy was so extreme, honestly, as a reporter, that is the first thing I would have been curious to ask Kamala Harris about.

00:26:12.640 Do you stand by this?

00:26:14.380 Do you support this?

00:26:15.840 I doubt she will get a question on that unless someone shouts it at her from independent media or from Fox.

00:26:22.280 I doubt she will get a question on that for weeks, weeks, weeks, if not ever.

00:26:26.180 I don't know if anyone serious is ever going to actually ask her that question unless she's in a debate with Trump.

00:26:30.420 And he asks her that.

00:26:31.400 I mean, that policy is so extreme.

00:26:33.260 She picked him anyway.

00:26:34.200 And normally reporters would be furious about getting no access to a campaign like this.

00:26:39.520 One thing that I've heard is she's giving them off the record access on planes. 0.84

00:26:43.780 And so they sort of feel like that's sated, like they have some access to her, even though it's not access for their readers and their listeners and their viewers.

00:26:52.120 It's just access for them, which is such a perfect statement on the press, right?

00:26:56.440 To the extent they want access, it's for their own personal knowledge as opposed to the people that they're supposed to be serving as journalists.

00:27:05.400 So their lack of fury over getting so few interviews with Kamala Harris is so telling in and of itself.

00:27:12.120 There's so many questions to ask her. 0.98

00:27:14.460 And if your first one is just what that one that you just played was, Megan, I mean, what a pathetic, pathetic scene. 0.95

00:27:20.620 But we all know where they stand on Harris versus Trump. 0.93

00:27:23.440 It's just going to solidify it in so many people's minds for the next couple of months.

00:27:27.180 It's going to be an incredible split screen.

00:27:28.780 They're going to lose more power because of it. 0.52

00:27:30.880 They're like, what a fun field trip through the swing states we're getting this summer.

00:27:35.580 I'm really enjoying learning about Pennsylvania.

00:27:38.140 That's not what you're there for.

00:27:39.760 By the way, PolitiFact contacted us reaching out, trying to fact check me on my assertions about that Minnesota refuge law, all of which are 100% true.

00:27:50.640 Let me just give you a little pro tip, media fact checkers. 0.95

00:27:53.980 Stop trying to fucking fact check me because I read the law and you don't. 0.98

00:27:59.440 They fail every time. 0.99

00:28:00.660 Guess what?

00:28:00.960 They didn't do it because I was right.

00:28:02.760 But their knee jerk is let's get her. 1.00

00:28:04.920 Let's get her because I'm a truth teller.

00:28:07.140 I'm not controlled and I'm not saying the things that they want, which makes me very dangerous.

00:28:12.160 Fine.

00:28:12.700 I'm good with that.

00:28:13.880 But the real media needs to be confronting controversy when it's staring them in the face.

00:28:20.640 Blair, they don't care that it's children.

00:28:23.820 They don't care in the Olympics that it's women. 1.00

00:28:26.380 How about the history in Spain with Spain saying we can't put a woman against this boxer?

00:28:30.580 They are that she's too strong.

00:28:32.220 He's too strong and they are getting hurt.

00:28:34.240 No, they're not reporting it.

00:28:35.740 That's that's Redux is a great follow on X.

00:28:38.420 And this woman has been doing great reporting, but so few others do.

00:28:42.640 So on and on it goes, like the cover up of their favorite issues and then the media totally

00:28:47.400 compliant.

00:28:48.220 And I'll say this on the on the field trip, Eliana, did you see that thing in the Olympics

00:28:53.140 where, you know, they made breaking now an Olympic sport, break dancing?

00:28:57.400 And there's some woman who's like a professor in break dancing. 1.00

00:29:00.820 Ray Gunn.

00:29:01.380 Who?

00:29:01.720 Rachel Gunn.

00:29:02.460 Who went?

00:29:03.280 Is it OK?

00:29:03.720 So I'll keep I'll keep it with you, Emily, because this is so funny.

00:29:06.120 So she went and she performed.

00:29:07.460 She performed and basically she did what you and I could do.

00:29:13.300 I dance like Elaine from Seinfeld and I could have done what that lady did. 1.00

00:29:19.100 Way better.

00:29:19.860 That would be way better.

00:29:21.180 The memes were like, I can't get over this woman who got a free field trip to France 0.99

00:29:26.780 by claiming she was a break dancer and wound up an Olympic contestant.

00:29:33.680 That's what the media are.

00:29:34.980 They're that breaker beginning their free field trip, but knowing nothing about the craft

00:29:39.520 that they're actually there for.

00:29:41.320 And here's what's funny is that she theoretically knows everything about the craft that she's

00:29:45.880 there for, because, again, she is my new obsession.

00:29:48.380 Ray Gunn.

00:29:49.000 Rachel Gunn.

00:29:49.700 B-girl Ray Gunn.

00:29:50.860 She has a Ph.D.

00:29:53.340 in, quote, cultural movement, something like that.

00:29:55.840 She literally has a Ph.D. in it and you can see her basically like struggling to do the 0.95

00:30:02.260 game plan.

00:30:02.900 Like you can draw it up.

00:30:03.980 But if you don't have the athleticism and the rhythm, there's no thinking in the world

00:30:08.200 that could make you like an Olympic breaker.

00:30:10.940 But because of the way the Olympics outsourced the breaking competition, like the basically

00:30:15.780 the qualifications here, you have Rachel Gunn in the Olympics just making a fool of herself 1.00

00:30:22.380 and sadly enough, her country.

00:30:24.320 It was incredible.

00:30:24.900 The memes have been amazing.

00:30:26.240 I went down a dark rabbit hole yesterday on this.

00:30:28.980 That's that's the media on the Kamala Harris plane that I couldn't think of a better stand

00:30:36.480 Columbia and Northwestern.

00:30:38.120 Yeah, they all have master's degree in journalism from Columbia, Northwestern, and that's how

00:30:41.940 they do it.

00:30:42.460 Yep.

00:30:43.100 And then they're asked to do the journalism.

00:30:44.700 And instead of doing like the amazing moves that we see actual breakers in New York City

00:30:48.400 do all the time, we see somebody try to do a cartwheel and call it a Olympics or the

00:30:55.460 kangaroo hop that she did. 0.96

00:30:56.940 Yeah, I'm into her.

00:30:59.340 I have to say tip of the hat to you, madam, on getting your field trip to Paris, because

00:31:03.120 it's wonderful to be in Paris in the summer, I guess.

00:31:08.460 We've got to spend a minute.

00:31:09.820 There's so much to go over, but J.D. Vance is everywhere.

00:31:12.460 He's everywhere.

00:31:13.220 Trump held this long presser on Friday.

00:31:15.820 They're putting themselves out there.

00:31:17.860 No one from the Democratic ticket is.

00:31:19.720 And here's J.D. Vance doing a pretty masterful job of trying to spin Dana Bash's attempt to

00:31:24.320 club him.

00:31:24.940 I mean, how many weeks have we been on the cat story now trying to club him like a harp seal

00:31:29.860 and he flips it back on her watch?

00:31:31.600 What do you say to key voters like that, Republicans, swing voters, who are put off by your views?

00:31:38.840 If you look at what I said in context, the Harris campaign has frankly lied about what

00:31:43.780 I actually said.

00:31:44.940 Kamala Harris has two stepchildren.

00:31:47.180 Pete Buttigieg and his husband have adopted twins.

00:31:51.680 Do you recognize them as parents and more broadly as being part of families?

00:31:55.800 Well, of course I do.

00:31:56.580 Dana has made some bizarre statements.

00:31:58.840 She has said things like, it's reasonable not to have children over climate change.

00:32:03.560 And you've now asked me three questions about comments that I made three years ago.

00:32:07.580 I wonder what Kamala Harris thinks about the fact that she supported policies that opened 1.00

00:32:11.840 the American Southern border.

00:32:12.960 I wonder what Kamala Harris thinks about the fact that she lied to the American people about 1.00

00:32:17.340 Joe Biden's middle facility for the office.

00:32:20.260 You are interviewing me, Dana, because I respect the American people enough to sit down for

00:32:24.820 an interview.

00:32:24.980 I appreciate that.

00:32:25.780 Kamala Harris has been the nominee for three weeks.

00:32:27.960 She hasn't sat down for a real interview.

00:32:29.580 Believe me, we are asking.

00:32:31.760 Okay, you're asking, but then they're still going along with it.

00:32:35.460 They still, all of them cover her rallies, ride in her plane, write about her nonstop with

00:32:41.640 the joy and the all you go girl with their Madam President t-shirts on.

00:32:45.380 But the truly, Eliana, the answer by these sycophant media members needs to be F off.

00:32:53.920 We will not cover you until you sit for an interview.

00:32:57.220 We are we are not there to do PR.

00:33:00.900 That's what's happening here.

00:33:04.780 Well, the reason that Trump and Vance are out there so much doing interviews is that the

00:33:10.720 media has made it impossible for them to dominate a national news cycle until since Harris was

00:33:18.820 elevated to the top of the Democratic ticket three weeks ago.

00:33:23.220 And the same thing should be happening for Harris until she sits for interviews. 1.00

00:33:28.180 It should be very, very difficult for her to dominate the news cycle simply with rallies 1.00

00:33:33.540 and speeches.

00:33:34.360 But again, I don't blame her.

00:33:38.720 It is the fault of the press that's allowing her to lead the headlines and lead the front 1.00

00:33:43.520 pages of newspapers with positive press every single day without sitting for interviews

00:33:48.340 or taking critical questions.

00:33:50.320 But that is precisely the reason that you see Trump and Vance out there.

00:33:53.820 And Vance, I think actually, Megan, did a better job in that CNN interview than he did on

00:33:58.020 your show responding to questions about that.

00:34:01.000 I think he after, you know, a rough week rollout has has found a more solid footing as Trump's

00:34:07.620 vice presidential nominee.

00:34:09.220 I thought he did a nice job in that interview.

00:34:11.860 So what we're seeing now, though, instead of the media demanding access and even in the

00:34:17.440 absence of access, just doing in-depth reporting on these insane policy positions that they have

00:34:24.180 said that they hold and that in Tim Walz's case that he has enacted as governor of Minnesota, 0.99

00:34:28.960 they're doing stories on Trump allegedly calling Kamala Harris a bitch behind closed doors. 0.94

00:34:37.020 OK, his team denies it. 0.98

00:34:39.300 I couldn't care less.

00:34:40.720 Who gives a flying fig with? 1.00

00:34:43.580 I'm sure he probably did call her a bitch. 1.00

00:34:45.400 Who cares? 1.00

00:34:46.620 This is what she says about him.

00:34:48.080 Listen, I took on perpetrators of all kinds, predators who abused women, fraudsters who

00:34:58.300 ripped off consumers, cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain.

00:35:03.860 I know Donald Trump's type. 0.98

00:35:06.000 Why am I supposed to care, Emily, if he, in response to being called a sexual predator 1.00

00:35:13.140 fraudster criminal by her openly behind closed doors, may have said she's a bitch? 1.00

00:35:19.460 I don't know if you saw Mike Allen of Axios tweet out the story, but he put three siren 1.00

00:35:24.660 emojis on top of Kamala Harris reportedly being called a bitch by Trump. 0.97

00:35:28.600 Like, this is some major piece of news. 0.98

00:35:31.380 And again, it just shows how little they understand about their own audiences, the news consumer,

00:35:38.060 the American public, who, for so many of them, you can tell them that Donald Trump has been 1.00

00:35:43.120 calling Kamala Harris a bitch. 1.00

00:35:44.500 You could call, they could hear that he called the Statue of Liberty a bitch and they would 1.00

00:35:48.620 still vote for him because they think Kamala Harris's policies are terrible. 0.98

00:35:53.500 And they're scared of the extreme policies of the left.

00:35:58.560 And the media doesn't, another reason they don't ask Kamala Harris's questions, like the 0.95

00:36:02.660 one about Walsh's extreme LGBT children policy, is because they don't understand that that

00:36:07.260 does also matter to voters.

00:36:08.680 They have no understanding of their audience.

00:36:10.500 So they get tied up in these ridiculous stories about Donald Trump allegedly calling Kamala Harris 0.99

00:36:15.720 a bitch that does not matter to anyone, let alone doesn't matter to the degree. 1.00

00:36:21.480 No. 1.00

00:36:21.680 And you know what, with the way they manipulate the narratives, they could easily be doing

00:36:25.820 stories right now on how J.D.

00:36:27.760 Vance, to the point Eliana just made, found his footing, how he has been media forward.

00:36:32.840 While Kamala Harris and Tim Walz hide from the press, J.D.

00:36:35.500 Vance is going out there.

00:36:36.640 We know if he were a Democrat, that is the story that they would be doing on J.D.

00:36:40.620 Vance, that he is crushing it in interviews, that even though he's getting bad press, he's

00:36:44.900 going and talking to journalists, he's talking to them on the plane, he's talking to them

00:36:47.920 in sit-downs.

00:36:48.660 He was all over the Sunday shows this week.

00:36:50.460 But no, none of that.

00:36:52.080 We're still talking about the cats. 0.97

00:36:54.120 Well, speaking of calling Statue of Liberty a bitch, when Bo Deedle, colorful character 0.96

00:36:58.860 at Fox News, who's off and on Hannity, ran for mayor, there was some quote in his campaign 0.97

00:37:03.220 where he was like, I'm going to keep this city safe all the way up from the Bronx down 0.96

00:37:08.800 to that slut in New York Harbor. 1.00

00:37:12.700 That's so Bo Deedle. 1.00

00:37:14.020 That's correct.

00:37:14.500 So Bo Deedle.

00:37:15.700 The other thing we've gotten today is J.D.

00:37:18.480 Vance pictured in a female Halloween costume.

00:37:22.300 Like he was there saying, he likes drag because like, I mean, like many people, one year on

00:37:29.160 Halloween in 2012, he dressed up.

00:37:31.760 I don't know what it was, but he was wearing a blonde wig and was in women's clothing.

00:37:34.860 It was a Halloween costume. 1.00

00:37:35.800 And now he's supposed to be a hypocrite, hypocrite, you see, because the Republicans don't like 1.00

00:37:42.200 drag in front of young children. 1.00

00:37:44.860 They did this same thing to Carrie Lake. 0.98

00:37:47.900 Carrie Lake spoke out about drag being forced on little kids in public spaces and schools. 0.53

00:37:54.400 And then they were like, she had a drag queen come and perform at her birthday party.

00:37:58.560 It's not the same thing.

00:38:01.940 And any rational person knows that.

00:38:05.660 But I guess we're just going to go with, he's like a drag queen now. 0.99

00:38:09.440 It was also so insulting to actual drag, like actual drag artists.

00:38:14.040 Like J.D.

00:38:14.400 Vance just put a wig on.

00:38:15.020 They would do better than that.

00:38:16.320 He looks like a women's study professor.

00:38:18.560 Like that's my guess as to what this costume was.

00:38:21.320 And by the way, Eliana, didn't you go to Yale?

00:38:25.440 Yeah.

00:38:25.800 Are your friends as mean as J.D. Vance's friends?

00:38:29.880 Because every day another one releases some private correspondence with the guy,

00:38:34.000 private pictures of him at a party.

00:38:35.660 They seem like terrible people.

00:38:37.480 By the way, well, he went to the law school, which is like the most radical school within

00:38:42.200 Yale, well known for that.

00:38:46.120 But the correspondence is quite interesting.

00:38:49.000 The correspondence that's gotten a lot of attention is his correspondence with a friend of

00:38:53.680 who is trans and at no point in the correspondence that this person has released.

00:38:59.720 Is he disrespectful in any way?

00:39:01.760 I actually thought it reflected quite well on him.

00:39:07.140 And I wasn't quite sure what the upshot of that story was, other than he was that he was

00:39:13.260 totally respectful to a friend with whom he had developed personal disagreements.

00:39:18.980 He was loving, kind, and supportive of this trans person.

00:39:23.960 The person broke up their friendship because he came out publicly and said he doesn't want

00:39:28.480 these treatments for children.

00:39:29.920 And that was enough for this person to completely turn on him, try to publicly humiliate him,

00:39:34.720 go to the New York Times, go to CNN, elsewhere to try to embarrass him publicly.

00:39:40.760 This person's a bad person. 1.00

00:39:42.400 This person's an ass. 1.00

00:39:43.520 All right. 1.00

00:39:43.740 That's it.

00:39:44.220 That's all there is to it.

00:39:45.000 A bad friend, as is whoever tried to embarrass J.D. Vance with a stupid Halloween costume. 1.00

00:39:50.220 I mean, it's just so absurd to try to make that a comparison. 1.00

00:39:54.060 The gyrating leather strap bondage drag performances that we're seeing in the bluest of blue states 0.99

00:40:01.980 in front of the young ones, trying to make them look at some guy's naked ass with nothing 1.00

00:40:06.720 but a leather strap through his crack. 1.00

00:40:08.780 That is not the same as a law student male going as some sort of a female character on

00:40:15.580 Halloween.

00:40:16.320 I hate to break it to you, but that's another thing normal people understand.

00:40:20.840 It's just very, go ahead.

00:40:23.520 The New York Times quoted another friend of Vance's from law school who cited as the reason

00:40:29.620 for friction in their relationship that Vance's barbs about the elites at Yale became too pointed.

00:40:38.680 And the Times actually quotes this as some kind of shot at Vance as if any normal person would

00:40:46.440 take umbrage at the fact that J.D. Vance arrived at Yale and found the place snobby and out of touch

00:40:53.660 or that he's criticized, you know, Ivy League leads since then.

00:40:57.660 It's that genre of journalism of what your former classmate said about you is not a strong one.

00:41:06.460 I don't think.

00:41:07.160 Oh my God, talk about empty calories.

00:41:09.780 All right, so now.

00:41:10.980 Particularly, by the way, at a school like Yale full of strivers who one can presume are incredibly envious

00:41:19.020 of where he's ended up in life compared to them.

00:41:21.900 Yeah, I know.

00:41:24.040 Well, the same thing.

00:41:24.600 And I've got Tim Walsh every day criticizing him for graduating from Yale Law School and

00:41:28.720 going on to work for Peter Thiel as a Silicon Valley billionaire.

00:41:31.860 He's like, oh, sure.

00:41:32.800 He's working class.

00:41:34.060 Sure.

00:41:34.360 He went to Yale Law School.

00:41:35.940 Hello.

00:41:36.280 That's the American dream, Emily.

00:41:37.920 Right.

00:41:38.180 To like get yourself up, improve your circumstances.

00:41:41.060 I was gonna say Minnesota's own Eliana Johnson went to Yale.

00:41:46.340 No, now she's a partisan hack elite. 0.99

00:41:48.260 You're not allowed to do that because then you're not.

00:41:50.640 You've lost all touch with your roots.

00:41:52.760 I wish I could say it was a working class success story, you guys.

00:41:56.160 Sorry, Eliana.

00:41:57.020 Not really.

00:41:57.680 You are not from Minnesota anymore.

00:41:59.120 Not really.

00:41:59.740 You have zero.

00:42:00.780 He's an elite Twin Cities kid.

00:42:03.900 That is all Tim Walsh had to do when they misstated his military credentials many, many times.

00:42:10.800 Just be honest like Eliana just did.

00:42:12.720 Just a gentle, good-humored correction of the record.

00:42:16.680 We're gonna do his military thing in the next segment, so I'll just table it for now.

00:42:20.440 But I do want to get to, back to Kamala.

00:42:22.760 So we don't hear from her at all.

00:42:24.140 No media interviews. 1.00

00:42:24.980 Her stupid tarmac interview with a couple of reporters, which was 71 seconds long. 1.00

00:42:29.080 And so we glean little bits and pieces here and there on her stupid speeches, which are 1.00

00:42:34.660 completely curated. 1.00

00:42:36.400 And she dropped this doozy on, was it Saturday, where she stole Trump's proposal on tips for

00:42:45.980 service workers.

00:42:47.780 It was Saturday in Vegas.

00:42:50.600 All right, so first, I'm just gonna give you, I'm gonna give you what she said on Saturday in

00:42:56.020 Vegas, where she slipped in a new proposal, allegedly of hers.

00:43:02.040 When I am president, we will continue our fight for working families of America.

00:43:07.340 Including to raise the minimum wage and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

00:43:24.980 Oh, you don't say.

00:43:29.100 So she stole that from Trump, which he tweeted out, and he was 100% right.

00:43:33.120 It was his proposal, and he made it months ago, and he explained how he came up with the

00:43:38.960 idea when he spoke at the Republican National Convention.

00:43:42.560 Listen.

00:43:43.860 We're having dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the Trump building on the Strip, and it's

00:43:49.600 a great building, and the waitress comes over.

00:43:51.980 How's everything going?

00:43:53.180 Really nice person.

00:43:54.480 How's everything?

00:43:55.160 Oh, Sarah, it's so tough.

00:43:56.880 The government's after me all the time on tips, tips, tips.

00:44:00.680 I said, well, they give you cash.

00:44:02.000 Would they be able to find him?

00:44:03.100 She said, actually, and I didn't know this.

00:44:04.580 She said, very little cash is given.

00:44:06.120 It's all put right on the check.

00:44:08.200 And they come in, and they take so much of our money. 0.93

00:44:10.300 It's just ridiculous.

00:44:11.560 But I said to her, let me just ask you a question.

00:44:14.520 Would you be happy if you had no tax on tips?

00:44:16.620 She said, what a great idea.

00:44:18.400 I got my information from a very smart waitress. 1.00

00:44:21.160 That's better than spending millions of dollars.

00:44:23.380 And everybody, everybody loves it.

00:44:30.140 Waitresses and caddies and drivers.

00:44:32.640 Now, this reminds me of the second Working Girl reference in a week on this show.

00:44:40.780 Working Girl.

00:44:42.120 When Melanie Griffith's character, who was the secretary working for Sigourney Weaver, who 0.99

00:44:46.460 then goes on some fancy vacation, breaks her leg and gets laid up.

00:44:49.860 Melanie tries to pose as her boss.

00:44:51.940 She came up with an idea while posing as the boss for this merger between Trask Industries

00:44:58.140 and this other industry.

00:45:00.080 And the guy loved it.

00:45:02.020 And she was putting together this big deal.

00:45:03.720 But then Sigourney Weaver, the boss, comes back from the broken leg.

00:45:07.140 And she steps in and tries to claim this deal as her own.

00:45:12.120 And Mr. Trask figures out that this was not Sigourney's idea.

00:45:18.140 This was the idea of the lowly secretary. 1.00

00:45:21.900 And he goes to each of them and asks in his investigation to figure out who deserves credit.

00:45:27.220 How did you come up with this idea?

00:45:30.520 And we've cut a clip.

00:45:32.360 This is Forbes.

00:45:33.380 It's just your basic article about how you were looking to expand into broadcasting, right?

00:45:38.060 Okay, now, the same day, I'll never forget this.

00:45:40.080 I'm reading page six of The Post.

00:45:41.800 And there's this item on Bobby Stein, the radio talk show guy who does all those gross jokes

00:45:45.820 about Ethiopia and the Betty Ford Center.

00:45:48.140 Well, anyway, he's hosting this charity auction that night, Real Blue Bloods.

00:45:51.560 And won't that be funny?

00:45:52.960 Now I turn the page to Susie, who does the society stuff. 1.00

00:45:55.760 And there's this picture of your daughter.

00:45:57.160 See, a nice picture.

00:45:58.300 And she's helping to organize the charity ball.

00:46:00.860 So I started to think, Trask, radio.

00:46:03.980 Trask, radio.

00:46:05.040 And then I hooked up with Jack, and he came on board with Metro.

00:46:09.740 And so now, here we are.

00:46:12.340 Ms. Parker, let me ask you a question.

00:46:15.420 How did you come up with the idea for Trask to buy up Metro?

00:46:19.560 How did I, uh...

00:46:20.500 Well, let's see.

00:46:24.680 Well, you know, I would have to check my files.

00:46:26.600 I can't recall exactly...

00:46:28.960 Ms. Parker is Kamala Harris.

00:46:32.780 I mean, I'm sorry, but I nailed it.

00:46:34.640 That's the perfect analogy for what we just saw. 0.92

00:46:37.900 It's ridiculous, Emily.

00:46:39.440 Also, that was encyclopedia-level knowledge of the working girl plot. 0.84

00:46:46.980 I love that movie.

00:46:48.640 Everything, the detail.

00:46:51.200 But yeah, I mean, it's...

00:46:52.660 This is another great example of media coverage.

00:46:55.240 They would be going crazy if this had happened in the other direction.

00:47:00.260 And by the way, Trump's story about how he came up with that proposal,

00:47:04.500 it sounds plausible.

00:47:05.940 It sounds believable to me.

00:47:06.960 I don't know that it's true, just because Donald Trump says it.

00:47:09.220 It doesn't mean that it's true.

00:47:10.200 It sounds plausible.

00:47:11.520 Either way, if he were a Democrat,

00:47:13.760 one big storyline of this election would have been how he came up with that idea.

00:47:18.300 Because it's really brilliant.

00:47:20.400 And it's a very powerful political narrative.

00:47:23.280 And that's obviously why Kamala Harris is cribbing it. 1.00

00:47:26.480 I mean, in Nevada, this goes a very, very long way

00:47:29.460 towards appealing to working-class voters

00:47:32.720 who are hugely supportive of Donald Trump

00:47:34.600 more than they have been for other Republican candidates.

00:47:37.160 So it's really, really smart.

00:47:38.480 And the media at the time, some outlets legitimately tried to undercut it and say,

00:47:43.740 ah, this is just nonsense.

00:47:45.280 It doesn't mean that much to workers.

00:47:46.760 It won't make that big of a difference.

00:47:48.680 And now Kamala Harris does it. 1.00

00:47:50.280 And people are like, wow, this is so smart.

00:47:52.540 Where did it come from?

00:47:54.140 So it's just like another perfect case study in what we've been talking about.

00:47:57.940 And the media is just total double standards. 1.00

00:48:00.300 It's so pathetic. 0.99

00:48:00.900 Trump tweeted out, or posted on Truth Social, 0.99

00:48:05.120 Kamala Harris, whose honeymoon period is ending and is starting to get hammered in the polls,

00:48:09.460 just copied my no taxes on tips policy.

00:48:11.740 The difference is she won't do it.

00:48:13.540 She just wants it for political purposes. 1.00

00:48:15.440 This is a Trump idea.

00:48:16.840 She has no ideas.

00:48:18.160 She can only steal from me. 1.00

00:48:20.320 And Eliana, what we saw over the weekend on X was hysterical posts. 0.99

00:48:25.300 Like there was this one.

00:48:27.080 Was it Curtis Hook?

00:48:28.060 Oh, no, he did not.

00:48:28.680 This one here's for the listening audience.

00:48:30.020 There's one guy taking a test on the left and writing Trump, no tax on tips.

00:48:34.100 And one guy copying off of that guy and labeled Kamala Harris like in a testing situation. 0.91

00:48:39.460 And then look at this one.

00:48:41.220 They're saying this is Kamala Harris at her next rally.

00:48:44.340 It's her wearing a Trump wig.

00:48:48.560 I love this so much.

00:48:51.000 She, you know, I guess if you can't beat him, join him.

00:48:53.620 But there'll be no acknowledgement, Eliana, that she completely copied Trump's homework.

00:49:00.020 Well, it's quite interesting to take a serious look at this,

00:49:05.000 that this is the one specific policy proposal she's put out to date.

00:49:09.800 And it is one of Trump's policy proposals.

00:49:12.760 Not only that, but this is a proposal, as Emily mentioned, that's aimed at the working class.

00:49:17.480 And these are the voters of the Democratic Party over the past eight years has been bleeding to the GOP.

00:49:24.280 So if you want to think about what Kamala Harris may try to do,

00:49:28.520 and we're supposed to see more economic policies from her this week, 1.00

00:49:31.560 I think that's the way to look at this.

00:49:34.920 Yeah, just look at let's go start pouring through Trump's proposals,

00:49:38.320 because that apparently is where she's going to.

00:49:40.340 She loves all of his proposals.

00:49:41.460 She apparently doesn't like Joe Biden's, but she's joyful.

00:49:44.640 You see, she's joyful.

00:49:45.520 And ignore all those reports about what a nightmare she is to her staff, all of whom have quit.

00:49:50.180 Because she's joyful and definitely not the B word.

00:49:53.300 There's so much more to get to.

00:49:54.580 We're going to take a quick break.

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00:51:40.620 Minnesota Governor and Democratic Vice Presidential picked him while skipping the Sunday show circuit this weekend.

00:51:46.340 I mean, he could have easily responded to all of the allegations that he abandoned his fellow soldiers ahead of their deployment to Iraq.

00:51:53.920 You have to wonder, why didn't he?

00:51:56.820 Why wouldn't he?

00:51:58.480 Such serious allegations in any network would have given him ample time to fire back.

00:52:04.160 At the same time, though, we're getting new examples of the governor misleading Americans about his military record.

00:52:09.220 First, Politico noticed on Thursday that the Harris-Waltz campaign quietly changed Governor Walz's bio on its campaign website.

00:52:18.660 People, he is still doing this.

00:52:20.860 As of last week, he was calling himself a higher rank than he actually earned.

00:52:25.640 The governor's bio was referring to him as a retired command sergeant major.

00:52:31.480 But as our audience knows, and the Minnesota National Guard has confirmed, Governor Walz did not complete the necessary training to retire as a command sergeant major.

00:52:42.580 It would have required an additional two years of service and training, which he did not complete.

00:52:47.200 He retired at a lower rank, that of master sergeant.

00:52:51.640 Some veterans say this is an example of stolen valor.

00:52:54.980 He is claiming he achieved a rank that he didn't earn.

00:52:58.540 Others did.

00:52:59.220 Their sacrifice gets diminished by him trying to claim he did it, too.

00:53:04.200 And the Harris campaign, of course, trying to sweep the change under the rug, not owning up to their silent switcheroo.

00:53:11.560 Meantime, the Washington Free Beacon, Eliana's outlet, unearthed a video from 2007.

00:53:17.040 In this video, you are going to hear Nancy Pelosi thank Tim Walz.

00:53:20.680 Again, this is 2007, right after he became a member of Congress, for his service on the battlefield.

00:53:26.240 And the then-congressman fails to correct her.

00:53:30.220 He will speak for himself, but I want him to know how much we all appreciate his service to our country, whether it's in the classroom or on the battlefield.

00:53:39.040 Well, thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:53:40.200 And thank you to the leadership here.

00:53:41.940 Why didn't he correct her the way Eliana just did when Emily said she was working class from Minneapolis?

00:53:50.500 It's so easy.

00:53:51.600 And honestly, having been at Fox News for so many years, you see veterans do this all the time.

00:53:58.340 If you misstate or especially inflate their rank, the level of service, and anything having to do with their combat experience, they will correct you.

00:54:07.960 Out of deference and respect for the people who actually held those titles and did that kind of work.

00:54:13.640 Not Tim Walz.

00:54:14.540 And she even said he can speak for himself.

00:54:16.320 But when he did, he didn't correct it.

00:54:18.800 C-SPAN, the network that aired that press conference, also labeled Mr. Walz as an Afghanistan war veteran on its Chiron, or lower third.

00:54:27.860 To be clear, Mr. Walz never served in combat in Afghanistan or in Afghanistan at all.

00:54:33.380 He served in Italy in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, which is the fighting in Afghanistan.

00:54:39.640 He never served in Operation Enduring Freedom.

00:54:43.280 There is a difference.

00:54:44.920 Now, maybe Mr. Walz didn't hear Ms. Pelosi's remark.

00:54:47.620 It's likely he never saw that Chiron.

00:54:49.860 But it's part of a pattern with this guy.

00:54:52.640 And here we have yet another example where Mr. Walz clearly heard his service being misrepresented and did nothing in real time to correct the record.

00:55:02.620 The clip we're about to play is from 2016.

00:55:05.780 It's an interview with C-SPAN.

00:55:07.460 The host says Mr. Walz retired as a command sergeant major.

00:55:12.520 No, he didn't.

00:55:15.180 Then the host goes on to say that he served with his battalion in Afghanistan.

00:55:21.200 First, Mr. Walz just nods his head in agreement.

00:55:25.480 Watch.

00:55:26.660 Congressman Tim Walz, also a member of the Armed Service Committee and Veterans Affairs, Democrat of Minnesota.

00:55:31.880 Highest ranking enlisted soldier ever to serve in Congress.

00:55:35.720 Enlisted in the Army National Guard at 17 and retired 24 years later as command sergeant major and served with his battalion at operating Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.

00:55:45.940 And I read that.

00:55:48.280 In Afghanistan, he shakes his head.

00:55:49.940 Yes, that was the time to do it, sir.

00:55:51.700 We on this show actually do care about completeness and fairness.

00:55:55.980 So we went back to make sure Mr. Walz did not correct the record after that particular clip ends.

00:56:01.920 He did nothing about the misstating of his higher rank.

00:56:05.680 We looked at the full interview.

00:56:07.340 Seven minutes into the discussion, Mr. Walz slides in the truth about Afghanistan but does not say to the host,

00:56:14.100 I want to correct the record and make it perfectly clear, he just offers up this.

00:56:19.560 My guard unit backfilled to Europe to provide the security mission as the 173rd moved to Afghanistan.

00:56:25.860 They rotated back.

00:56:27.120 Our guard unit moves home.

00:56:28.340 Many of those same soldiers deployed for 22 months right after that.

00:56:31.180 He does this all the time.

00:56:33.820 It feels like a verbal sleight of hand where he wants, it's very clear, the listener to believe that he was in Afghanistan, that he was there, that he was part of Enduring Freedom, and he wasn't.

00:56:46.820 And by the way, what's so wrong with saying, just to correct the record, I actually didn't serve in Afghanistan.

00:56:51.900 Just do, why wouldn't you do that out of respect for those who did?

00:56:54.640 Because you want people to believe it's true.

00:56:56.040 On Thursday, Vice President Harris was asked to respond to this controversy over her running mate.

00:57:02.480 Did she take it head on, answer directly to the cameras that Mr. Walz's fellow soldiers are wrong about him?

00:57:09.480 Yeah, no.

00:57:10.460 She gave the most non-answer one can give, just praising anyone who has ever served anywhere.

00:57:15.640 Some of the criticism has been about your vice presidential pick and his leading the National Guard at 24 years.

00:57:22.640 Since Vance said that he deserted his own troops or his own colleagues, what's your take on that?

00:57:29.120 Listen, I praise anyone who has presented themselves to serve our country.

00:57:35.640 First of all, that question was so bad.

00:57:38.060 Why are these people so bad at it?

00:57:40.140 You ask a pointed question.

00:57:42.520 You know, after 24 years, he left the National Guard.

00:57:45.520 What?

00:57:45.720 That's not the question.

00:57:46.560 The question is, your vice presidential running mate is being accused by his fellow unit members of abandoning them because the unit was told they were deploying to Iraq, and instead of going, he quit.

00:58:00.360 He was the one who trained them, and they felt he cut and ran.

00:58:04.060 What's your response to those men?

00:58:07.440 Okay, there.

00:58:08.780 I wrote it for you.

00:58:09.620 Good luck, Press Corps, on the next 71-second interview time with her.

00:58:14.440 But back with me now, the EJs. 0.99

00:58:16.600 God, it's so frustrating to watch them attempt the journalism and fail at the journalism.

00:58:21.040 But Eliana, there's going to be more clips. 0.97

00:58:23.440 This is a pattern with this guy.

00:58:24.880 Every day now since he got named, we have found several.

00:58:28.740 He, as I said in the intro, always makes the mistake in the same direction to make himself sound more glorified than he really was.

00:58:35.720 Man, Megan, I got to say, that was a real flashback hearing you formulate a question to our debate prep, where you'd be like, no, no, not sharpen up, flabby.

00:58:46.380 But look, with the walls, with the walls thing, you're absolutely right.

00:58:53.220 And there are several issues.

00:58:54.920 I think it can be confusing because there are so many different smaller issues within the bucket of the way he's talked about his service.

00:59:04.440 So there are four issues here.

00:59:07.000 One is the matter of his title, where it's clear that he attained the title but didn't stay in long enough to keep it.

00:59:16.580 And the campaign has a provisional.

00:59:18.340 He had the provisional use of the title.

00:59:21.440 Contingent upon his staying in the service, taking the required courses.

00:59:25.940 So the campaign had to do cleanup duty on its website for the bio it had for him.

00:59:30.020 The second is to his reference of the arms he had used in war, though he never saw combat.

00:59:39.080 And the campaign, again, said over the weekend, NBC News wrote an article about this, that he had spoken in error.

00:59:47.800 So on two things, they've done cleanup duty.

00:59:50.960 The other two things are, did he serve in Operation Enduring Freedom or did he serve in support of Operation Enduring Freedom?

00:59:59.320 He's obviously let folks say that he served in Afghanistan when he served in a support role in Italy.

01:00:05.480 That seems to me less significant of an issue, though these matters have been controversies and issues throughout every campaign he's run for office since 2006.

01:00:18.680 And the fourth, which I think is the most significant of these, Megan, has to deal with the timing of his retirement from the National Guard in 2006, where he filed to run for Congress in February.

01:00:32.920 His unit got a warning that they were likely to be called up in March.

01:00:37.540 He said at the time that if called up to serve in Iraq, he had a duty to do so.

01:00:43.480 He retired in May and his unit was called up in July.

01:00:49.340 So he is on the record after his unit was notified that it was likely to be called up, saying that if called, he had a duty to serve.

01:00:58.740 And he went on to retire and run for Congress.

01:01:01.220 And I think thinking about these things sort of in those four categories makes them a bit more easy to understand.

01:01:08.080 But this is not a new controversy for Tim Walls.

01:01:11.400 He's clearly played fast and loose with his title and the matter of his record, allowed people to wish cast onto him what they want to be true and what probably he wants to be true.

01:01:21.760 And has taken no pains at any point to collect to correct the record.

01:01:26.500 And look, national politics is different from state politics.

01:01:29.740 He's getting more scrutiny this time around.

01:01:31.900 And already twice the campaign has had to go out and do cleanup on this, despite not having sat for a real interview or taking hard questions on this.

01:01:41.300 Those facts that you just stated are indisputable by both sides.

01:01:44.560 In a motion for summary judgment in a court of law, you could put those down as undisputed facts that that timeline you just laid out.

01:01:52.060 He filed an intention to run for Congress in February.

01:01:54.460 In March, a preliminary notice of deployment went out thereafter.

01:01:59.360 He said, if my unit is deployed, I have a responsibility to go.

01:02:04.720 And then he quit.

01:02:06.580 And then they got the official deployment notice that happened.

01:02:09.120 However, there's a soldier who served in the role he claimed he had overseeing a different unit.

01:02:16.460 But in Minnesota, same thing.

01:02:18.220 Like they were all together.

01:02:19.660 Who says, we were told we were going to Iraq before he even filed the notice to run for Congress in February.

01:02:26.900 We knew in the fall of 2004 we were going to get sent.

01:02:30.480 It doesn't happen that it's just suddenly like, hey, you're going.

01:02:34.580 And then you go.

01:02:35.180 So there's a long lead up time for these soldiers.

01:02:39.340 And this guy, a former Minnesota National Guard command sergeant major, Doug Juleen, went on CNN and said we were told in the fall of 2004.

01:02:50.900 Listen.

01:02:52.020 People don't really understand the chronological events as they occurred.

01:02:56.640 And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004 is what we received, my commander and myself of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS.

01:03:12.900 We were informed that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period out there.

01:03:22.460 Start preparing your team.

01:03:23.800 From that going forward, we met with the one of the 125 Field Artillery, introduced ourselves, talked to them and given heads up.

01:03:32.180 This is what's happening.

01:03:33.560 We don't know a full particulars, but we will get to it.

01:03:36.300 The 125 is Wallace's unit, Emily.

01:03:39.460 That's on the record testimony from this fellow command sergeant major saying we were told we were told before he filed that notice to run to Congress.

01:03:48.300 We were getting sent to Iraq.

01:03:49.900 That just puts the lie directly to everything Tim Wallace has told us.

01:03:53.640 And that's a way to further sharpen your question even more.

01:03:57.660 Whoever gets first access to Tim Wallace, I guarantee you they won't use that or do that.

01:04:03.140 Yeah, at best, at very best, he's clearly complicit in over-representing his military service.

01:04:11.600 That's at very best, let alone was actively involved in the over-representation, which I think is increasingly clear that that was probably the case.

01:04:21.000 And what's frustrating is that, I mean, God bless Tim Wallace for serving his country.

01:04:25.320 I didn't do it.

01:04:26.320 I don't like criticizing people who did it over, you know, the nitpicking.

01:04:30.240 But this is more than nitpicking.

01:04:32.400 This is really serious.

01:04:33.740 And to the point that you made, Megan, a lot of vets are extremely sensitive about this issue and for good reason.

01:04:41.660 And they're so sensitive that they will immediately, immediately correct people who over-represent the extent of their service.

01:04:49.460 And I think that also partially explains why we are seeing people come out now to correct the record about Tim Wallace, to offer the facts that the media has been, again, at best, slow to provide about the reality of Tim Wallace's service.

01:05:03.700 Because people really are sensitive.

01:05:05.480 A lot of people died in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:05:07.760 And it does make a very big difference in this case.

01:05:10.480 And he's just not going to get away from these questions.

01:05:12.780 One thing that also is, to Eliana's point, I think surprising and doesn't speak very well of the Harris campaign or that entire operation, is that this has been bouncing around Minnesota for a while.

01:05:26.280 I mean, Eliana may be a kid from the Twin Cities, but if you follow, I imagine, Eliana, you are already aware of this because people have known this about Tim Wallace in Minnesota for years.

01:05:36.240 This has been something that's been out there.

01:05:38.160 And the Harris campaign doesn't appear to have been prepared to respond to it because they're even taking things off of their own website.

01:05:44.840 Like, did they vet this guy or did they just go off the vibes that Kamala Harris had with him at that Sunday meeting at the Naval Observatory?

01:05:51.820 Because this is going to be a huge problem.

01:05:54.440 When you have veterans criticizing your vice presidential campaign from now to November, I mean, that's really, really tough stuff to work around.

01:06:03.120 What about it, Eliana?

01:06:03.880 Because one of the things, gosh, it was Alpha News, which has been doing such a good job covering Tim Wallace and Minnesota issues in general.

01:06:12.240 They've been on the show, Liz, is it Liz?

01:06:15.920 Cole, Cole, Colin, forgive me, Colin.

01:06:19.540 She's amazing.

01:06:20.520 And I love her.

01:06:21.800 And she did that great documentary on the Derek Chauvin case and verdict that we featured on the show.

01:06:27.180 Well worth everybody's time.

01:06:29.160 But she was one of the ones she tweeted out that this was the headline that the Star Tribune ran with when this first broke in Minnesota about Tim Wallace.

01:06:39.660 Or at least when it broke in 2022, it was resumed.

01:06:43.380 The headline they went with was GOP opponent who never served criticizes Governor Tim Walz's exit from National Guard.

01:06:51.960 Zero interest from all the journalismy journalists in looking into whether it was true.

01:06:58.800 And these guys had a legitimate right to object to what he did.

01:07:02.600 Yeah, well, I think anybody who's familiar with the Star Tribune and what the tenor of its coverage of Democrats in Minnesota has been would not be surprised to hear that their Minnesota is no stranger to it's it's basically a one party state.

01:07:20.380 No stranger to controversial Democrats, including Ilhan Omar, and has not covered itself in glory, holding the powerful to account in its state.

01:07:32.840 You know what?

01:07:34.360 It's amazing because, as I said, I was looking into this hack paper.

01:07:37.440 And as I point out, for 40 years, they've done nothing but endorse Democrats.

01:07:41.100 40 years.

01:07:42.540 Now, I have been alive for all of those 40 years.

01:07:45.640 I haven't actually been able to vote in all of them, but I've said before, in my election past and voting for presidents, I voted for Democrats and Republicans.

01:07:55.560 And I actually went back and looked at it.

01:07:57.060 Do you know that in my, I guess it's eight presidential elections, I have voted for four Democrats and four Republicans. 0.98

01:08:05.280 So you can suck it, Star Tribune, because I'm a lot more independent and down the middle than you hacks are. 0.97

01:08:11.240 I actually am not a partisan. 1.00

01:08:13.340 I'm not an ideologue.

01:08:15.380 I can see truth, even if it undermines a narrative I previously believed, which allows me to be more right tomorrow than I was yesterday.

01:08:23.540 This is one of the key tenets of being a good journalist.

01:08:27.460 If you vote, if you've endorsed only Democrats for 40 years, there's something wrong with you.

01:08:33.860 There was never a Republican in all that time with ideas good enough to endorse him. 0.98

01:08:39.580 I mean, it's just it gets to the problem that we are dealing with in this cycle, in this nation, in this show, which is these partisan guys who drive the narratives, whether it's Tim Waltz and this, you know, it's really his dirty ass opponent. 0.96

01:08:53.040 Who's the problem in pointing out that he's lied, right? 0.90

01:08:58.540 And totally disrespectful to the actual actual serviceman, Emily, who had the balls to come forward and say, I object to this, completely dismissive of those guys.

01:09:07.560 But that's fine because those guys are trying to hurt a Democrat. 1.00

01:09:10.380 Well, and as some good reporters at the Free Beacon and other places have been trying to debunk the media narrative about Tim Waltz, one of the things that struck me is that there was a Facebook post from some vets that served.

01:09:24.780 I think they served with Tim Waltz.

01:09:25.800 It was from like 2019.

01:09:27.000 It was posted in 2019.

01:09:28.900 And this was, again, indication.

01:09:30.980 I mean, that's five years ago.

01:09:32.460 This stuff has been going around.

01:09:34.320 It's been known about.

01:09:35.820 These comments have been made in public.

01:09:37.760 It's not crazy.

01:09:38.720 And another dose of cold water.

01:09:40.920 I mean, one of the few things that I have seen out of legacy media in the last few days is the segment that Steve Kornacki did showing Tim Waltz's margins among actual rural blue collar voters in parts of Minnesota, frankly, where Donald Trump is actually fairly popular.

01:09:58.340 And Kornacki does this segment and looks and says Tim Waltz is governor because of the Twin Cities area, which is more urban, which is more affluent in the suburbs of Minneapolis, actually very affluent in the suburbs of Minneapolis.

01:10:10.800 And that's the reason that he is governor. 0.86

01:10:12.760 And when you look at the media narrative about him, how many bullshit stories, by the way, on his fashion choices have there been? 0.92

01:10:20.240 Politico Mag ran that fashion guy, I don't even know his name, saying like, oh, Tim Waltz is in his L.L. Bean barn jacket. 0.94

01:10:26.860 He's so authentic.

01:10:28.600 Nobody in the Midwest wears $200 L.L. Bean barn jackets unless maybe they live in the suburbs of the Twin Cities and are trying to cosplay as a real working class person. 0.98

01:10:38.460 And so the coverage of him just like start to finish is just nonsense.

01:10:43.900 And it's for people who have no idea what they're talking about and don't want to look at the actual numbers.

01:10:49.020 Is this guy, can he really talk to rural working class voters or does he just maybe look like someone who can?

01:10:54.780 Does his military service?

01:10:56.200 Has it been misrepresented?

01:10:57.900 No, because only Republicans are saying it.

01:11:00.080 So we don't want to spread disinformation.

01:11:01.780 That's how they make decisions about what's important and what's not.

01:11:04.100 We have to get to in our next block what Trump is doing to bring these messages out, right?

01:11:09.760 Because there are a bunch of pieces out right now on how his campaign has been flailing and poll numbers, which are not good.

01:11:17.640 The New York Times Siena poll just moved three critical states away from Trump.

01:11:22.240 They were lean Republican and now they're back to toss up, including it's Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, right?

01:11:28.960 Were those the three or was I'm trying to remember?

01:11:30.800 I have it written down.

01:11:31.520 So, yeah, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania must stay in Trump's category.

01:11:37.460 I mean, Pennsylvania is going to decide the election.

01:11:39.680 He can't lose it.

01:11:40.540 He went down to Georgia and said a bunch of things about Brian Kemp. 0.99

01:11:42.760 No one gives a shit that he doesn't like Brian Kemp and Kemp doesn't like him. 0.99

01:11:45.740 He needs to stop attacking the very popular governor of Georgia. 0.99

01:11:48.540 I get that it's a long feud.

01:11:50.440 I get he doesn't like the wife.

01:11:51.860 Just stop.

01:11:52.600 You owe it to your supporters to stop doing anything to undermine your chances in Georgia, which is another must win.

01:11:59.120 But let's just table the Trump problems for a minute, because I want to want to stay and finish up with walls and then talk about Kamala for a second.

01:12:06.280 Brianna Keillard, who is terrible.

01:12:08.380 She's at CNN.

01:12:09.740 She's another partisan hack who should have been eliminated during the Brian Stelter Don Lemon cleanup that they did. 1.00

01:12:14.880 But she managed to hold on and she decides the real story here is J.D. Vance's military service.

01:12:23.540 Listen.

01:12:23.760 I also think that J.D. Vance, as a messenger on this, may be an imperfect messenger, because we have, as you introduced him, as a combat correspondent, which was what his title was.

01:12:35.780 But when you dig a little deeper into that, he was a public affairs specialist, someone who did not see combat, which certainly the title, combat correspondent, kind of gives you a different impression.

01:12:47.100 So he may be the imperfect messenger on that.

01:12:49.540 But OK, she admits in this in a clip that's that was his title.

01:12:57.120 That's why he was introduced that way, because that was his actual title.

01:13:03.160 But she doesn't like his responsibilities over there.

01:13:06.620 So she would like to compare him unfavorably, Emily, to Tim Walz, who refused to go to Iraq.

01:13:14.880 J.D. Vance fired back at Breonna Kilar, saying, come on, when asked to go to Iraq, I went and he served his country honorably.

01:13:25.400 No, he wasn't in service for 24 years like Tim Walz, but he also was in service as a Marine for four full time years, for four years full time as a Marine and served overseas in Iraq during a dangerous time.

01:13:39.520 The nerve of this woman to try to diminish him because she doesn't like the actual responsibilities he had while there. 0.90

01:13:46.160 And I think it's something you only do if you're trying to rationalize your own partisan favor for the other person, because you just you can't handle that.

01:13:58.680 There may be an imbalance on this particular issue that maybe J.D. Vance has more credibility on this issue.

01:14:03.760 So in order to rationalize you feeling wrong about that, right, like it can't be right that J.D. Vance has more credibility on this.

01:14:10.340 Let's not give him anything. We don't want to give him any credit.

01:14:13.440 But so, you know what? Yeah, it's his title, but it's over. It's like it's his freaking title.

01:14:19.320 This is it's the actual title. Meanwhile, Tim Walz is using the wrong title and doing the overrepresentation, which, again, at best, the best spin you can put on it is that he's complicit. 0.94

01:14:30.940 He's allowing other people to say it. He's allowing his campaign to write it. So, again, it's at best he's complicit.

01:14:36.060 But at worst, he's actually actively participating in it. And we know for a fact the title is attributed incorrectly.

01:14:42.540 So that's actually J.D. Vance's title. I mean, give me a break. You're going to split hairs when it comes to J.D. Vance, but you're not even going to split those hairs when it comes to Tim Walz.

01:14:51.640 Or you're going to choose to split the J.D. Vance hairs in this case instead of focusing immensely or more on the Tim Walz ones at all.

01:14:59.580 I mean, that's a great representation of where their mindset is, actually.

01:15:03.580 Not to mention, as a member of the press, you think she'd have some respect for the dangers that even embedded reporters sent to Iraq faced in trying to bring the story back to Americans, never mind somebody who's actually a Marine.

01:15:17.280 So F you, Breonna Keillard. You're not a supporter of the troops.

01:15:20.820 She's always trying to claim, like, she's married to a military guy.

01:15:24.320 And when she actually starts talking about them, it's always like this.

01:15:28.160 Go ahead, Eliana.

01:15:29.460 I think it's worse than what both of you are saying.

01:15:31.920 I think her remark was an intentional obfuscation of the issue here in that nobody has accused J.D. Vance of misrepresenting what his position was or what his duties were when he went abroad.

01:15:47.660 He writes about them in his book that he was a press correspondent and he helped the Marines field media inquiries in Iraq.

01:15:55.840 She says he may not be the best messenger, apparently, because he didn't see combat.

01:16:03.700 That's the implication.

01:16:05.420 But the accusation against Tim Walls isn't that he didn't see combat.

01:16:10.180 It's that he misrepresented his responsibilities and his duties.

01:16:13.720 Nobody's trying to diminish his record of service to this country.

01:16:17.580 The criticisms are that he has not been honest about it.

01:16:21.780 That's and didn't go to combat and didn't go to combat when he knew it was coming his way.

01:16:27.360 I mean, we had on Tom Barron's, the guy who went and fulfilled this role instead as command sergeant major.

01:16:34.080 He was on the day after this story broke last week, and he was saying he left his guys in the lurch.

01:16:41.000 He was like, you have to understand in the military, this kind of thing is unthinkable.

01:16:43.940 Like he helped train them.

01:16:45.820 He was the highest noncommission officer.

01:16:47.220 He trained these guys are getting ready for war.

01:16:49.480 And then when war came, when it was time to actually go do the thing that they've been training for, he cut and ran.

01:16:54.800 That's why he saw it as such a betrayal of the guys.

01:16:57.520 You know, it's it is about more than just the whatever stolen valor, if you want to call it that.

01:17:03.020 But they're using a rank that doesn't belong to you.

01:17:05.660 He knew they were going and he chose not to.

01:17:10.060 He let them go with someone else.

01:17:12.380 And men in his unit died, men that he was responsible for.

01:17:16.200 So I really don't want to hear it because you're right.

01:17:18.920 J.D. Vance has never misstated what he actually did.

01:17:21.840 She may not like his title.

01:17:23.220 That's the title.

01:17:24.380 Too bad if you don't like it. 0.89

01:17:25.620 It's just so gross.

01:17:27.860 Here's one other guy, by the way. 0.78

01:17:29.960 This is John Kolb, lieutenant colonel.

01:17:32.120 He's the man actually who would take over Waltz's unit.

01:17:35.740 I don't know how his responsibilities dovetailed with Barron's because I know he also took over some of them.

01:17:40.860 But he had a post that's been making the rounds on Facebook and it reads in part as follows.

01:17:46.380 I do not regret that Tim Walls retired early from the Minnesota Army National Guard, did not complete the sergeant's major academy, broke his enlistment contract, or did not successfully complete any assignment as a sergeant major.

01:17:58.440 Unwittingly, he got out of the way for better leadership.

01:18:01.520 Tom Behrens was the right leader at the right time.

01:18:04.200 He sacrificed to answer the call, leaving his family, business, and farming partner, brother, to train, lead, and care for the soldiers.

01:18:11.080 Like a great leader, he ran toward and not away from the guns.

01:18:15.440 By all accounts, he was a competent—this is back to Walls—he was a competent chief of firing battery gunnery sergeant and first sergeant.

01:18:24.700 I cannot say the same of his service sitting frocked in the command sergeant major chair.

01:18:30.700 He did not earn the rank or successfully complete any assignment as an E9.

01:18:34.900 It is an affront to the non-commissioned officer corps that he continues to glom onto the title.

01:18:39.320 I can sit in the cockpit of an airplane, doesn't make me a pilot.

01:18:43.400 Similarly, when the demands of service and leadership at the highest level got real, he chose another path.

01:18:50.840 I'll tell you guys, I don't know where this lands, ultimately.

01:18:55.560 But at a minimum, it has completely neutered the Harris-Waltz campaign's ability to tout this guy's military service.

01:19:05.920 Not completely, because what people will be thinking is, it's marred.

01:19:10.920 He did something.

01:19:12.220 Didn't he not serve?

01:19:13.420 He didn't go to Iraq.

01:19:14.820 Didn't he say he did more than he did?

01:19:17.040 Said he used a gun in combat.

01:19:18.840 Haven't they had to walk all this stuff back?

01:19:20.440 I mean, that's how it works in people's minds, Emily, even with a sycophant press corps.

01:19:24.900 Yeah, it does.

01:19:27.000 And one of the Trump campaign's narratives against Harris-Waltz is basically that they're frauds.

01:19:32.320 And they've had varying successes in leveling those arguments against Harris-Waltz.

01:19:38.160 I mean, they're still testing it out.

01:19:39.800 Their entire campaign was against Joe Biden.

01:19:41.700 And they've had to totally rethink that strategy when Kamala Harris stepped in late in the game. 0.74

01:19:47.760 And so I think, actually, that's where this gets even more damaging, is that's a pretty critical part of the broader narrative that the Trump campaign is trying to make stick against these two, that they're frauds, that Kamala Harris is a chameleon, that they'll just sort of blow wherever the winds go.

01:20:04.780 Another reason her copying Trump's taxes on tip proposal is probably that it has serious potential to backfire on her and her campaign. 0.89

01:20:13.100 She's Sigourney Weaver.

01:20:14.640 Yes, she's Sigourney Weaver. 0.72

01:20:16.840 And so that is, I mean, I think that is actually really a serious problem for them with Tim Walz.

01:20:22.700 It's just, you know, the whole thing, I get the Trump, you know, Vietnam narrative.

01:20:27.480 I understand that.

01:20:28.640 But Donald Trump isn't running on his character.

01:20:31.540 I mean, he never has.

01:20:33.160 It's never been a part of why voters are like, yes, this man.

01:20:36.680 But with Tim Walz, they're trying to make it a huge part of him.

01:20:39.980 And right, Donald Trump himself has said, you know, I'm part of the system and that's how I know I can fix it.

01:20:45.480 All of those things.

01:20:46.680 Tim Walz, they've rolled him out as this guy of sterling, heartland character.

01:20:52.740 He is just the guy next door that you would trust.

01:20:55.660 You're going to go get your cup of sugar from Tim Walz.

01:20:57.940 And so that's where this is different than the Trump side by side, because they've made character really central to his narrative.

01:21:04.120 And this absolutely calls it into question.

01:21:06.900 I'm really not.

01:21:07.980 And I'm certainly not bringing any children who may be suffering depression or an instinct to, God forbid, engage in cutting or anorexia, who might get poor autism, who might get pulled into the trans confusion, given the messaging from society to Minnesota.

01:21:21.300 Minnesota, certainly not keep your kids the hell away from Minnesota if they're in any way suffering, because that's the stuff that gets confused for gender confusion. 1.00

01:21:30.980 And before you know it, they're missing a body part and are sterile for life.

01:21:35.160 I'm not exaggerating.

01:21:36.400 This is actually happening in modern day America.

01:21:38.920 Eliana, Emily's point about the fraud allegations, you know, these are fraudsters.

01:21:43.140 They're not who they say they are, is a good one.

01:21:45.940 And we've seen Trump team, you know, trying to perfect that message more and more.

01:21:50.340 She helps daily in her weird accents that she's trying to do, depending on which group she's.

01:21:56.400 There was another one.

01:21:57.100 I mean, I can't get enough of these, but here's yet another one that she busted out on.

01:22:01.920 It was when she was speaking to the UAW chapter in Detroit.

01:22:07.960 Here it is.

01:22:08.520 You know, the one thing about all of us is we like hard work.

01:22:14.280 Hard work is good work.

01:22:15.680 Hard work is good work.

01:22:17.360 Thank you to the sisters and brothers of UAW for all you are and all we will do over these next 89 days.

01:22:24.000 God bless you.

01:22:25.380 God bless you.

01:22:26.780 Okay.

01:22:27.600 So she's in Detroit.

01:22:29.220 Emily's got her hand up to her for it.

01:22:31.560 So it hurts.

01:22:32.600 It makes me cringe.

01:22:33.740 It's Clinton-esque, actually. 0.91

01:22:35.940 She's, I mean, she's black, just in case you didn't know. 0.99

01:22:38.120 That's what she's trying to say.

01:22:39.180 I'm black and I understand people who live in Detroit because I talk like this.

01:22:42.640 That's what she's doing.

01:22:44.720 And here was another such moment that's recirculating now, given that she keeps doing this in front of largely black audiences.

01:22:53.380 And it is when she went on and spoke about Tupac being her favorite alive rapper.

01:23:03.900 All right.

01:23:04.120 This is a few years ago.

01:23:05.440 It's 2020.

01:23:06.420 Watch this.

01:23:07.060 Best rapper alive.

01:23:10.520 Tupac.

01:23:12.340 He's not alive.

01:23:13.340 You say he lives on.

01:23:14.480 Not alive.

01:23:15.200 I know.

01:23:15.620 I keep doing it.

01:23:17.280 You say, listen, West Coast girls think Tupac lives on. 0.74

01:23:21.560 I'm with you.

01:23:22.320 I'm with you.

01:23:22.960 So Tupac, keep going.

01:23:24.340 Keep doing that.

01:23:27.740 Who would I say?

01:23:28.940 I mean, there's so many.

01:23:31.320 I mean, you know, there are some that I would not mention right now because they should stay in their lane.

01:23:40.080 But others, I...

01:23:42.320 I want to know who one of those are.

01:23:46.220 Keep moving.

01:23:47.720 Keep moving, Angela.

01:23:48.880 All right.

01:23:49.340 I didn't...

01:23:49.700 That was not supposed to be a stumper either.

01:23:51.920 What about...

01:23:52.400 Uh-huh.

01:23:55.340 Oh, my God.

01:23:57.140 I'm cringing.

01:23:58.680 She clearly... 1.00

01:23:59.640 She didn't know.

01:24:00.660 She had no idea.

01:24:01.300 Tupac died in 1996.

01:24:03.620 It wasn't that she...

01:24:05.060 We West Coast girls want to say he's alive.

01:24:07.120 That's not what was happening.

01:24:08.160 She didn't know.

01:24:08.820 It was the only name she knew.

01:24:11.360 Does she know something about Tupac's whereabouts?

01:24:14.020 Is he alive?

01:24:15.060 And does she know?

01:24:16.020 Can she tell us?

01:24:17.780 No.

01:24:19.040 She knows nothing.

01:24:21.220 It's part of this. 1.00

01:24:22.620 She's a fraud. 1.00

01:24:23.800 Why can't she say... 1.00

01:24:25.320 She just said, just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm not...

01:24:27.720 I'm into rap interviewer.

01:24:29.860 I don't like rap.

01:24:30.800 I like pop.

01:24:32.700 That was like if you asked me who my favorite rapper is and I was trying to fake it,

01:24:37.320 well, my response would have been in an interview.

01:24:39.760 But also, that is why she's not doing interviews. 0.99

01:24:44.000 Case in point.

01:24:45.960 You have it right there.

01:24:46.840 You know what it reminded me of?

01:24:48.140 You know what it reminded me of, Eliana?

01:24:49.800 It reminded me of Katie Couric and Sarah Palin.

01:24:53.680 So what's your favorite Supreme Court decision?

01:24:57.940 Not right.

01:24:58.400 Or like what newspapers do you read?

01:25:00.200 Oh, all of them.

01:25:01.420 All of them.

01:25:02.440 All of them.

01:25:02.900 All right.

01:25:03.060 Could you like name one?

01:25:04.400 And she doesn't.

01:25:05.200 It was the same thing.

01:25:06.760 She doesn't know.

01:25:07.740 She didn't... 1.00

01:25:08.900 It's like she is a fraudster. 0.69

01:25:12.400 She's trying to pretend she's something other than she is.

01:25:15.400 And the worst part of it is, so is the media.

01:25:18.880 Okay.

01:25:19.120 That leads me to this.

01:25:20.820 And then after this, we got to touch on Trump.

01:25:22.840 Time Magazine.

01:25:24.940 Hold on.

01:25:25.500 Time Magazine.

01:25:26.980 August 12th, 2024.

01:25:28.740 The reintroduction of Kamala Harris.

01:25:31.120 The soundtrack suggested a Beyoncé concert.

01:25:36.540 The light-up bracelets evoked the Ares tour.

01:25:39.840 And the exuberant crowd, more than 14,000 strong, lining up in the rain, resembled the early days of Barack Obama.

01:25:48.380 Inside a Philadelphia arena on August 6th, Vice President Kamala Harris was greeted with the kind of reception a Democratic presidential candidate hasn't gotten in years. 0.99

01:25:57.420 Fans packed into the overflow spaces, waving homemade signs made of glitter and glue as drumlines roared.

01:26:05.600 When Harris introduced her new running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, the cheering lasted more than a minute.

01:26:11.760 But if you'd predicted this scene a month ago to anyone following the race, they would have never believed you.

01:26:16.600 But Harris has pulled off the swiftest vibe shift in modern political history.

01:26:23.020 A contest that revolved around the cognitive decline of a geriatric president has been transformed.

01:26:28.280 Joe Biden is out.

01:26:29.300 Harris is in.

01:26:30.700 And a second Donald Trump presidency no longer seems inevitable.

01:26:34.180 Democrats resigned to a grim death march toward certain defeat.

01:26:37.560 As one national organizer put it, felt their gloom replaced with a jolt of hope.

01:26:43.540 Harris smashed fund raising records, raking in $310 million in July.

01:26:47.520 She packed stadiums and dominated TikTok, offering a fresh message focused on the future over the past. 0.98

01:26:54.100 Volunteers signed up in droves.

01:26:55.700 Trump's widening leads across the battleground states evaporated.

01:26:58.720 Over the span of a few weeks in late July and early August, Harris became a political phenomenon.

01:27:06.160 Our campaign is not just a fight against Donald Trump, she told the cheering crowd in Philadelphia.

01:27:12.780 Our campaign is a fight for the future.

01:27:16.920 Where has this Kamala Harris been all along? 0.97

01:27:21.480 And the piece goes on to posit her own party underestimated her.

01:27:27.160 Maybe the crowded 2020 primary just wasn't the right race for Harris to showcase her talents. 1.00

01:27:35.500 Maybe the vice presidency wasn't the right role.

01:27:39.440 And then it goes on.

01:27:42.780 If somebody wrote that copy for you at the Washington Free Beacon, I feel like they would no longer be working at the beacon for more than two minutes.

01:27:50.720 It's it's a little effulgent, I think, is the word a little purple, purple froses. 0.97

01:28:02.520 I mean, gay. 1.00

01:28:05.400 Look, is that what that means?

01:28:06.300 What does that mean?

01:28:06.940 What is it?

01:28:07.460 No, it's not over the top, over the tops.

01:28:12.760 Just reminding us of your Yale degree.

01:28:16.480 I know, she's so fancy.

01:28:18.600 I don't even know if I use that word right.

01:28:20.980 Somebody can.

01:28:21.660 I'm sure someone will correct me in my Twitter mentions.

01:28:24.100 But one of your classmates would be like, Eliana never knew the words at Yale.

01:28:27.420 She never knew them.

01:28:28.400 She replaced. 1.00

01:28:29.300 Picture of her using dumb words. 1.00

01:28:31.180 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:31.820 She replaced a dead guy on the ticket.

01:28:35.140 Obviously, there was a vibe shift.

01:28:37.040 She didn't have to go through a primary where they were all were Democrats were criticizing each other and putting out policy proposals and having it out.

01:28:47.220 I mean, it is obvious that the party would be thrilled that Nancy Pelosi managed to shove aside somebody who was looking like a sure loser and that she was coronated and put atop the ticket. 0.60

01:29:02.440 So it's somewhat amusing to me that none of that is mentioned.

01:29:07.340 If there's anything that would be calculated to produce good feelings and vibe shifts, it would be precisely what Democrats had managed to engineer, which was leaving Biden on the ticket when there could have been when there was a primary.

01:29:20.700 And then shoving him aside when he when it looked like he was going to lose.

01:29:29.700 And that's when the critical media coverage of him began to come, when the media, too, realized that he was going to lose and then putting her atop of the ticket without any primary campaign.

01:29:41.300 Any betting or remember those two minutes when the press was like honest and they were covering Joe Biden.

01:29:46.520 Those were that was a fun two minutes.

01:29:47.840 All right.

01:29:48.640 Quick break.

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01:30:48.440 I said at the top of the hour, three states had been moved closer to Kamala Harris, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in considered a gold standard poll.

01:31:02.300 New York Times Siena.

01:31:03.780 It is now Harris 50, Trump 46 in all three of those states polling likely voters, which is what we care about.

01:31:11.760 Um, that's not good for Donald Trump at all, and they're reporting that it's due to stronger position than Joe Biden had with most demographic groups, including white voters without a college degree.

01:31:27.340 So she is doing better with a working class, whatever part I think of the Democratic coalition that is than Biden was.

01:31:33.260 On top of that, the Cook political report on Thursday moved from lean Republican to toss up Arizona, Georgia and Nevada.

01:31:42.740 So that's bad news for Trump in both the Sun Belt and the Rust Belt.

01:31:48.440 And what exactly is team Trump doing about it?

01:31:52.820 I'm not sure.

01:31:54.300 I'm not sure, Emily.

01:31:56.080 Trump, to his credit, came out and did, you know, an hour plus presser on Friday, answered a bunch of questions.

01:32:03.400 All the media does is, like, take the latest controversy.

01:32:05.660 He told some story allegedly involving Willie Brown and Trump on a helicopter that Willie Brown's denying, and Trump says it's true.

01:32:12.240 And then they said there's another black Democrat in California who he might have confused Willie Brown for.

01:32:17.220 I haven't heard Trump's answer to that.

01:32:18.940 That's what the media went with.

01:32:20.400 He's doing a spaces with Elon tonight at eight.

01:32:23.780 But the point is his messaging is getting snuffed out.

01:32:28.620 He's not getting a ton of earned media coverage the way he did in 16.

01:32:31.540 And I just don't know what team Trump's plan is to right this ship.

01:32:36.060 Some of it is absolutely his fault.

01:32:41.380 Some of it is I don't know how any Republican could be even polling close to where he's polling in those swing states and in the national polls with this level of media hype for Kamala Harris, with this level of media dishonesty for Kamala Harris, with this level of propaganda for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

01:32:57.900 I mean, it's been absolutely insane.

01:32:59.420 And sometimes I think even myself, I forget and take for granted how crazy it is that any Republican runs as close as they do with Democrats in this country, given the treatment that Democrats have been getting over the last several weeks.

01:33:11.380 I mean, the copy that you just read from Time Magazine, if someone sent that to me as an editor, if I sent someone to a rally and they brought that back to me, I would say Kamala Harris had a very splashy launch when she was running for president back in 2019 and it fizzled.

01:33:25.460 So maybe that's the story. Maybe when the story, maybe the story is that when Kamala Harris's honeymoon ends, when people like Donald Trump, Republicans start running in Pennsylvania, ads about her energy policies, ads about her relationship with the Green New Deal, ads about her relationship with Tim Walz and his policy towards LGBT students.

01:33:45.020 When those ads start running and she has to start doing interviews to the extent she has to and to the extent they'll ask her good questions, what happens then?

01:33:53.860 Everyone can put on a good show when it's stage managed and the media loves you. What happens afterwards?

01:33:59.800 And so I think some of this is it is a little bit of a honeymoon.

01:34:03.240 On the other hand, on my show last week on Undercurrents, I did a whole segment about where I think the Trump campaign is going wrong.

01:34:09.620 They're not talking as much as they used to about powerful corporations that have allied with each other, with big tech companies, with people on Wall Street to censor speech, to go after the American worker.

01:34:24.300 He's just he can talk about immigration. He does talk about immigration, but he's not framing it in the way that he did back in 2016, which is, you know, looking out for the little guy.

01:34:32.680 He does some of it, but I think he does need to do a lot more of it to overcome the obstacle that is extremely hostile media coverage to him and extremely friendly media coverage to his opponent, especially in those swing states.

01:34:46.980 The New York Times reporting, Eliana, that this is the worst three weeks of the Trump campaign and saying that at a fundraising event recently, Trump said, I'm not I'm those reports that I was nicer after getting shot were false.

01:35:00.520 I'm not nicer. And then he was asked by some of the donors about getting back on message on some of the policy disagreements between the two of them and maybe steering off of the personal.

01:35:10.620 And Trump's response was, I am who I am. So I don't know. I'm not saying he shouldn't attack her personally ever.

01:35:17.400 I feel like if I were Trump, I'd want to do that, too, given all that she said about him.

01:35:20.840 But. Somehow they need a different message to get out there or they need their message to be more ubiquitous, and it just doesn't seem like his punches are landing or I don't really even see a bunch of haymakers being thrown by him.

01:35:35.320 With the potential to land the way we're more used to with him.

01:35:40.840 He doesn't have a disciplined, consistent message that he's getting out his, you know, his big tweet over the weekend was about the size of her crowds, which he also went on about at that press conference.

01:35:53.680 And in that tweet or on Truth Social, he said her crowds are A.I. generated and this is a big fraud.

01:35:59.880 And that's something he really doesn't need to be talking about. It's not going to move voters in this election.

01:36:05.300 Look, of course, these are the three worst weeks of his campaign.

01:36:08.260 He had a candidate who he was beating handily replaced by a candidate with a pulse.

01:36:14.800 So so that goes without saying that these were going to be hard weeks.

01:36:19.540 The more concerning thing is that he is not driving home a consistent and disciplined message.

01:36:25.860 Trump retains an issue advantage on the economy and on immigration.

01:36:29.880 And which are which consistently voters say are the most important issues to them.

01:36:33.460 So any time he spends in press conferences or out on the campaign trail talking about anything besides that and pointing out that her record that we don't know where she stands on these issues are and we don't know what her policies are is wasted, lost time.

01:36:50.340 If he doesn't change this and find a message that he's going to drive home consistently, he's going to lose.

01:36:56.380 All we heard from him in 15 and 16 was China, build the wall, make America great again. 0.96

01:37:03.460 It was so simple. You can recite it in your sleep.

01:37:07.400 Can you do that this time around, Emily? It's like nothing's coming to mind.

01:37:11.060 No. And Matthew Stoller, actually, who's on the left, he did a comparison because he supports some of Trump's populist economic policies, which, again, if your coalition, if you have to win Pennsylvania and you have to win Wisconsin and you have to win Michigan, if that's your electoral map to victory, those messages, however much Republicans may disagree with them, some Republicans may have ideological disagreements with them.

01:37:32.760 Politically, those are the arguments that helped Trump win over those Obama voters who then went for him in 2016.

01:37:39.900 And so he needs to be really vocal about those messages over and over again.

01:37:44.760 And I mean, I think there's this double edged sword to Donald Trump that the bad, you know, tweeting about Mika Brzezinski's facelift at six in the morning is also necessarily attached to the good, which is going way harder on the left than a lot of other Republicans have been willing to over the years.

01:38:00.680 And that's another thing that helps him win.

01:38:02.600 So I don't necessarily know that some of that stuff. I think so many Trump voters are just the kind of people are like, I'm putting up with Donald Trump.

01:38:10.160 It's not that I love Donald Trump. It's just I put up with him because I don't care how much he swears for tweets.

01:38:15.120 I care about these horrible gender surgeries for minors. I care about the left selling my jobs out to China. 0.83

01:38:22.320 I care about a wide open border that you are lying about or openly defending.

01:38:27.920 And so I think that's still on Trump's side in those states. But to do that, he just has to be hammering.

01:38:34.780 Like you said, Megan, it has to be the central part of his message.

01:38:37.880 He has to be making it obvious and blatant over and over again, day in and day out.

01:38:41.980 That is not happening right now.

01:38:44.220 He can do it. You know, perfect phone call, perfect phone call.

01:38:47.780 He can do it. He just needs to do it.

01:38:51.380 You know, we haven't seen that much of Trump lately, more than we've seen of her, obviously.

01:38:55.080 But I'm sure there's some security concerns now in the wake of the attempted assassination that he's got to deal with in terms of he can't be too ubiquitous and too quickly.

01:39:04.840 But he's losing in the messaging game.

01:39:07.680 Her ads are everywhere. She seems everywhere.

01:39:10.060 The media is in love with her and he's got to change the narrative and get his messaging back out there.

01:39:14.740 Not about Brian Kemp, but about how he's going to change people's lives for the better.

01:39:18.980 And he's got very able campaign staff around him.

01:39:22.500 I think they'll get there.

01:39:23.680 I think they, too, are a bit, you know, reeling from what's just happened here.

01:39:27.360 You ladies are the best. I love when you're on. 1.00

01:39:29.420 Thanks so much for being here, gals.

01:39:30.640 Thanks, Megan.

01:39:31.600 Thanks, Megan.

01:39:32.780 All right. Back tomorrow with a first-time guest, Nate Silver.

01:39:36.860 Looking forward to that. See you then.

01:39:38.060 Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - August 12, 2024

Harris Steals Trump's ＂No Tax on Tips＂ Plan, and New Walz Military Controversies, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson ｜ Ep. 859

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