The Megyn Kelly Show - Harry and Meghan Target Kate, and Ye's Meltdown, with Dan Wootton, Dominique Samuels and Eva Vlaardingerbroek

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00:00:30.960 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:42.500 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:47.560 The Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Kate, are in America.

00:00:51.480 So all eyes are on them for their big moment, right?

00:00:56.160 Not exactly.

00:00:57.200 Thanks to William's brother, Harry, and his wife, Meghan Markle, dropping a trailer.

00:01:03.260 They had to do it right now for their upcoming Netflix show.

00:01:07.080 They had to wait until William and Kate got into America to drop their Netflix trailer.

00:01:12.840 Because you know how it's like you have the two kids and everyone's paying attention to the one kid because he's doing something cute or something fun.

00:01:20.380 And after a little while, the other kid gets annoyed and the other kid does something to get attention.

00:01:25.660 Maybe they hurt the first kid.

00:01:27.280 They throw a tantrum of some sort.

00:01:29.320 But that's what's happening here.

00:01:30.740 This is the Sussex tantrum.

00:01:32.240 Look at us.

00:01:33.320 Look at us.

00:01:34.020 We live here.

00:01:35.320 Why are you looking at them?

00:01:36.560 They live over there.

00:01:38.240 Look at me.

00:01:38.840 Look at me.

00:01:39.600 That should be the real title of Meghan's podcast.

00:01:42.040 Maybe version two after Archetypes is over, which I think, thankfully, mercifully, it is.

00:01:48.080 We'll get just look at me.

00:01:50.320 All right.

00:01:50.840 We're going to go in depth on the Royals with my pal Dan Wooden.

00:01:53.820 He's host of GB News' Dan Wooden tonight, as well as a Daily Mail columnist.

00:01:59.000 Dan, what do you think of my proposal for the new name?

00:02:02.000 I think it would fit the content, Meghan.

00:02:06.420 Put it that way.

00:02:09.760 So, yes, her podcast, thank God, is ending.

00:02:13.440 I know you and I have had to do it for professional purposes, but what sane person would have chosen

00:02:18.840 to listen to this thing?

00:02:20.400 We'll get to that one second.

00:02:21.360 But let's start with the Netflix docu-series, which I think is going to be six episodes long.

00:02:27.380 And they chose to wait until the moment William and Kate were here to drop the trailer.

00:02:33.720 For those of you who haven't seen it, it's only a minute long.

00:02:36.640 Here it is.

00:02:39.960 Why did you want to make this documentary?

00:02:42.160 Why did you want to make this documentary?

00:02:57.380 When the stakes were this high, doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

00:03:27.380 Oh, my Lord.

00:03:29.140 Then it ends with just Harry and Meghan and another beauty shot of them.

00:03:34.720 The whole thing is just pictures of them.

00:03:36.720 They clearly have had a photographer following them around from the beginning of their relationship.

00:03:40.500 It's absurd.

00:03:41.400 It's absurd, the pictures of them, their most intimate moments.

00:03:44.300 Don't you do that, Dan?

00:03:45.420 Don't you just have a third party there to photograph all your most intimate, loving, sad, happy moments

00:03:50.720 in the privacy of your own kitchen?

00:03:52.360 What do you make of this move to drop it now and the messages that we are to glean from it?

00:03:59.080 My goodness, Meghan, I actually don't know where to start.

00:04:02.180 I have so much to say.

00:04:04.180 I think the first thing is let's respond directly to Meghan.

00:04:07.220 She says, when the stakes are this high, wouldn't it be better to hear the story from us?

00:04:12.580 Actually, no.

00:04:13.880 And I'll explain why.

00:04:15.820 You have been proven to bring out a tissue of lies any time it suits you about the royal family.

00:04:24.260 There were over 20 in the Oprah Winfrey interview alone.

00:04:28.480 There were more in the court case.

00:04:31.540 There were more in the book by your own little cheerleader bloke, Oman Scobie.

00:04:36.180 You are a proven liar.

00:04:38.120 So, no, I don't want to hear a story where the stakes are so high from you.

00:04:43.300 And I know exactly what you mean by that, Meghan.

00:04:46.300 What you mean is that the stakes are so high because you want to bring down the royal family.

00:04:53.360 You want to destroy the British monarchy, an institution which, look, Meghan, I hold my

00:04:58.020 hands up.

00:04:58.600 It has its faults.

00:04:59.760 Of course it does.

00:05:00.960 But it is a very popular system here in the UK.

00:05:04.020 It is overwhelmingly supported by the citizens of Britain.

00:05:08.280 And we want to give the new king, who is still grieving, his mother, Queen Elizabeth

00:05:12.860 the Great, as I refer to her, we want to give him a chance.

00:05:16.900 So we don't want this pathetic little Netflix series full of your lies, which is clearly

00:05:23.440 going to claim that Britain is some sort of racist hellhole, which it's provably not,

00:05:29.460 which is clearly going to claim that the royal family is structurally and institutionally

00:05:34.660 racist, which, again, I believe it is not, to try and damage your own flesh and blood.

00:05:41.100 Well, shame on you.

00:05:41.680 So actually, no, I don't want to hear the story from you.

00:05:43.600 I would actually love to hear the story, Meghan, from the king, from Queen Camilla and from

00:05:48.840 William and Kate.

00:05:50.340 But guess what?

00:05:51.320 They can't speak out.

00:05:52.640 And they can't speak out because of the constitutional monarchy system, which makes it incredibly

00:05:57.080 difficult for them to engage in this sort of tap for tap.

00:06:00.640 So the worst thing is that Harry and Meghan know they basically have a free right to say

00:06:05.920 what the hell they want against four individuals who do not have the same freedom of speech as

00:06:11.880 they do.

00:06:13.260 That's exactly right.

00:06:13.900 They know that their hands are tied and these two sitting out in Montecito can sling whatever

00:06:18.520 mud they decide to invent.

00:06:21.020 And they're just required to take it over there on the on the other side of the pond.

00:06:24.840 And the trailer seems like it's going to take aim at William and Kate.

00:06:30.800 But in particular, Kate, a lot of her friends have pointed out, according to the press, they

00:06:36.480 they seem to find the one photo of Kate Middleton in which she's not smiling.

00:06:41.180 I mean, every single photo of her, she's got a big smile.

00:06:43.320 She uses it generously.

00:06:44.600 She's not she doesn't have the resting bitch face, as so many of us does do.

00:06:49.000 She's always smiling and waving.

00:06:50.700 And she seems like a pretty friendly person.

00:06:52.620 And this picture, we're showing it for the listening audience.

00:06:55.460 She's sitting in this.

00:06:56.840 I think it's a chapel and she is stone faced looking away.

00:07:00.440 She clearly doesn't know the cameras are on her, but no one's smiling in it.

00:07:04.180 Megan's behind her looking doe eyed.

00:07:06.540 And they chose to put this in the trailer for what purpose, in your view?

00:07:09.840 Because they intend to try and portray William and Kate as the bad guys.

00:07:17.400 I mean, there's a macro level to this, Megan.

00:07:19.680 It's like, you know, British royal family, old, colonial, racist, bad.

00:07:26.060 The Sussexes and their Montecito mansion woke, very rich and good.

00:07:31.240 That's going to be the macro side of this Netflix reality series.

00:07:34.860 But you've got to think back to why Megan has such a problem with the new princess of Wales, Kate Middleton.

00:07:42.620 And I'll tell you why.

00:07:43.860 Because Megan didn't like the fact that Kate was popular behind the scenes in the royal family.

00:07:49.640 She was popular with the staff men.

00:07:52.420 She was popular with the courtiers.

00:07:53.960 And you know why it was?

00:07:55.260 Because she treated them with respect.

00:07:57.320 She believes that folk, even if they're down the ladder from you, should be treated appropriately and kindly and with dignity.

00:08:06.580 That's how Kate operates.

00:08:08.240 Now, very quickly, Kate realised, and I was reporting on this.

00:08:11.260 You know, I've been reporting on this for years and years and years.

00:08:13.220 So I was reporting on it when Megan was in the royal family and when actually the facade was still there.

00:08:18.980 Outwardly, they were all mates.

00:08:20.440 They were the fab four.

00:08:21.460 But Kate, behind the scenes, and I was the first person to report this, actually hauled Megan over the coals over the way that she was speaking to her staff at Kensington Palace.

00:08:32.580 Megan has been accused numerous times by former staff members of being a bully.

00:08:41.300 And Kate called her up and said, look, this isn't the way that you treat my staff.

00:08:45.420 This is not how you speak to my staff.

00:08:46.980 This is not how we do business.

00:08:48.900 And so from that moment on, Megan has added in for Kate.

00:08:52.760 There's obviously the infamous bridesmaid dress fitting where they each made each other cry, if you believe that.

00:09:01.300 And there's no positive relationship between them anymore.

00:09:04.260 So now, rather than taking the high road and doing something that would shock the world by maybe paying tribute to them, saying something kind about them and and just taking issue with maybe royal life and how oppressive it could be.

00:09:17.980 It looks like we haven't seen it, but it looks like they're going to trash them.

00:09:21.320 And and there are other indicators that they're going to trash them, including the timing of this release, the Netflix series at all.

00:09:30.720 You know, within moments, it feels like after Queen Elizabeth's death, as as King Charles is still getting his footing as the new monarch.

00:09:39.820 And on top of that, just as Will and Kate come to America and Megan's stenographer or that he likes to call himself a journalist, Omid Scobie, he he decides to actually give up to give it up and and sort of say why they did this trailer.

00:09:57.540 When they did, he tweets out if tomorrow is Prince William's Super Bowl, here's your halftime show and releases, includes a link to the Netflix series, to the to the trailer.

00:10:08.640 So they're not even trying to hide that they're trying to poke William and Kate.

00:10:15.320 No, Megan, there always used to be this sort of unwritten rule in the royal family that when principals are on tour overseas, the other senior members of the royal family step back and they allow.

00:10:27.540 The tour and the good work on the tour to take the spotlight, well, that obviously all went out the window with Harry and Megan, even when they were in the royal family.

00:10:36.740 But this is egregious, Megan. They released the trailer on the day that William and Kate were trying to build up to this big Earthshot prize, which is their moment in Boston.

00:10:49.080 And they knew it would steal all of the attention away from William and Kate.

00:10:52.840 It would make the visit incredibly awkward for William and Kate.

00:10:55.500 And look, as far as I'm concerned now, Megan, and from speaking to my royal sources, there's no going back from this.

00:11:03.220 This trailer was a declaration of war by the Sussexes.

00:11:07.900 I'll tell you behind the scenes, King Charles has held out hope for some time that he's going to be able to come to some sort of peace deal with Harry and the royal family.

00:11:18.440 And I think, Megan, that is incredibly naive.

00:11:21.600 I think William has known for some time that this relationship is as good as over.

00:11:27.380 Because remember, it's not just the Netflix series.

00:11:30.440 We've then got Harry's autobiography, Spare, coming in the first week of January.

00:11:35.940 And as you say, the Queen is barely in the ground.

00:11:40.380 King Charles is still grieving.

00:11:42.300 He hasn't even had his coronation.

00:11:45.440 They don't give a damn about that royal thing.

00:11:48.200 In fact, with the Queen gone, they want to do all they can to destroy this institution.

00:11:54.060 The irony, of course, Megan, is they still run around America using the titles the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

00:12:00.260 Why?

00:12:00.840 Why?

00:12:01.180 If you hate this organisation so much, hand them back.

00:12:04.380 Stop using them.

00:12:05.640 Go and be normal citizens.

00:12:07.260 And for King Charles, I think the choice is very clear now.

00:12:11.980 If you allow Harry and Meghan to keep their royal titles, you are going to be made a fool of.

00:12:18.600 Strip them of the titles.

00:12:20.200 Strip their children of the ability to be a prince and a princess.

00:12:24.220 And show them that they are now shut out of this family because of the lies that they're telling and the destruction that they want to reap.

00:12:32.000 What would be the timing of that, Dan?

00:12:33.840 Is there a risk to King Charles if he does that after the actual series drops so it looks like a tit for tat?

00:12:43.280 Isn't he supposed to be above that kind of thing, getting bothered by a silly Netflix documentary?

00:12:48.820 So if you were advising the royal family, what would you advise about timing on stripping of titles?

00:12:53.900 Yeah, he's been holding this as almost like a little threat.

00:12:59.240 A little threat.

00:13:00.040 You know, if you're too nasty to me in the book, the titles could go.

00:13:05.400 But again, I think he has been incredibly naive.

00:13:08.800 I think his advisors are being incredibly naive.

00:13:11.520 Harry and Meghan, I've described Montecito this week as ground zero of the plot to bring down the monarchy.

00:13:18.660 This isn't just about a book now.

00:13:20.840 This isn't just about a Netflix series.

00:13:22.560 This is about a long-running operation to try and paint the royal family as a racist institution.

00:13:30.100 And we know in these woke times, Meghan, that could have serious consequences, especially for the way that the British royal family is viewed overseas.

00:13:38.180 So they want to cause ultimate damage.

00:13:40.320 I think the royal family have to become far more aggressive now in how they deal with Harry and Meghan, how they deal with their lives.

00:13:49.360 When the Queen was alive, she was old school and she was calm and she was understated.

00:13:53.720 And of course, that's why she took a couple of days after the Oprah Winfrey interview and released that very famous statement that we'll never forget,

00:14:01.400 where she said, recollections may vary in regards to the interview.

00:14:05.760 Translation, they're big fat liars.

00:14:09.180 But the Queen is gone now.

00:14:11.040 And William and Charles are much more modern media operators.

00:14:15.040 They've got to get with the programme here and actually understand that Harry and Meghan are out to destroy the institution that they have dedicated their lives to.

00:14:24.740 And I think what's most revolting about it for me is this is about undermining the life's work of Queen Elizabeth II.

00:14:31.720 We always hear Harry and Meghan talk about how much respect they had for the late Queen Meghan, like how they did.

00:14:38.460 I mean, they've even used an image of Meghan doing her best to look sad at the funeral in the trailer for the Netflix documentary.

00:14:46.040 They have used that period of grief as a marketing opportunity.

00:14:51.140 Just think for a moment how wrong that is.

00:14:53.660 Well, you raise a good point because the Queen was able to dismiss them with a three line, you know, three word line in a way that King Charles cannot and Prince William cannot.

00:15:05.960 It's a new day and the public doesn't have the same adoration for them that they did for Queen Elizabeth.

00:15:13.240 So the institution was Queen Elizabeth in the eyes of the public.

00:15:17.820 And so, yes, they loved it and they loved her and they would be deferential to her and they wouldn't really agree with a critic of hers.

00:15:23.980 But it's a new day.

00:15:25.500 And if these guys don't learn how to street fight because the Sussexes are clearly ready for a street fight and itching for one, they're going to lose.

00:15:34.260 Like they're going to have to get a little vicious or they're going to lose this PR battle.

00:15:39.220 And that means the end of the monarchy.

00:15:41.140 I mean, it's a pretty lengthy, robust institution.

00:15:45.100 And I'm sure they'd hate to see it go down because of some upset wokesters out in Montecito.

00:15:52.740 Indeed.

00:15:53.560 And look, I think already we have seen that Harry and Meghan are winning this PR war at the moment because they are sophisticated.

00:16:02.400 They've got massive Hollywood companies behind them, Spotify and Netflix.

00:16:09.080 They have the money and they have the freedom, too.

00:16:12.620 Of course, that's what I think is so unfair about this.

00:16:15.520 King Charles, I mean, imagine the situation.

00:16:17.400 You lose your mother.

00:16:18.420 All of a sudden, you're into the biggest job in your life, in your mid-70s.

00:16:22.620 He's got a lot going on.

00:16:23.980 But he's actually got to tackle this problem because deep down in his heart, he loves Harry.

00:16:29.060 And he's always thought, my own son isn't going to try and destroy my reign as king.

00:16:35.320 But he's wrong, Meghan.

00:16:37.280 He's wrong.

00:16:38.380 That's exactly what Harry is trying to do.

00:16:40.660 And whether he's doing it because of the malign influence of his wife, Meghan, who we know has already destroyed her own family, the Markels, I think, knowing the Markels very well, incredibly unfairly.

00:16:51.920 But we know they have this in there.

00:16:54.720 So it doesn't really matter what the motivation is, if it's Meghan's fault, if it's being driven by Harry.

00:17:00.060 The point is, King Charles, you've got to understand your son no longer has your best intentions in mind at all.

00:17:08.060 And I think at the moment that they accept that, the moment that actually the royal family can start a prop fight.

00:17:16.040 They would do well to put themselves through the torture that we've had to and listen to some of these podcasts she's doing, because there's a line in at the very end of the most recent one in which she yet again telegraphs a warning to them.

00:17:30.100 And similar as she's been doing in some of the print pieces, she's given interviews in saying, you know, I'm silent for now, but I might I might not stay silent.

00:17:39.780 She says in the latest one, this is what I wanted to leave you with.

00:17:43.280 This is the last line of her last podcast.

00:17:44.900 This is what I want to leave you with.

00:17:45.980 It's from a couplet within a piece of writing by a Greek poet.

00:17:49.000 And he says, what didn't you do to bury me?

00:17:53.280 But you forgot that I was a seed.

00:17:57.380 OK.

00:17:58.620 Hello, King Charles.

00:18:01.000 It's an out and out threat.

00:18:04.120 It is an out and out threat.

00:18:05.680 And as you say, she made a virtually identical threat in the Cut magazine interview.

00:18:12.580 Remember, that was when the queen was on her deathbed.

00:18:16.300 She didn't care.

00:18:17.720 Didn't care about the stress that it caused the queen, whose health was suffering seriously.

00:18:23.840 So that's the thing.

00:18:25.180 At the end of the day, Megan, this is the next six months is the most risky period for the royal family, because I do believe in my soul of souls.

00:18:35.060 I do believe that at the end of the day, the public in Britain have already seen through Harry and Meghan.

00:18:40.440 And I think in time, the American public and internationally people will see through them, too.

00:18:45.140 But this is their moment of maximum power where they have an opportunity, at least, to cause potentially terminal damage to the royal family in the TV series, in the book, in a series of interviews that they have planned.

00:18:59.080 At a time when King Charles is weak, is grieving, is not conscious of the job he's trying to do because he's preparing for his coronation, which is going to be a huge event, which usually monarchs are able to spend a great deal of time focusing on.

00:19:15.320 But in this case, he can't because there is a threat that comes very seriously from Harry and Meghan.

00:19:20.660 I will say, however, though, at the end of the day, Meghan, I do believe that this couple are not going to be beloved in the way that Queen Elizabeth II was and Prince Philip or Princess Diana or William and Kate.

00:19:36.780 I really think that in the end, the public are going to consider them much more like the Duke of Windsor, who abdicated from the throne because of his love for the American divorcee, Wallace Simpson.

00:19:48.000 Because I think fundamentally, British people at least respect members of the royal family who are not out for the betterment of themselves and who are focused on a life of duty.

00:19:59.740 So I think in the long run, Harry and Meghan will not be supported by the public.

00:20:05.740 In a way, we've seen the difference that we've seen the difference between that approach on each side this week.

00:20:12.960 So William and Kate come to America to promote this Earthshot charity that he's pushing.

00:20:17.720 You get like just over a million dollars.

00:20:19.800 Five people do if they're working in profound ways on climate change.

00:20:23.860 And everybody cares about climate change.

00:20:25.520 You know, we have political fights over it, but very few people are left disagreeing that it exists and is a problem that we'd like to help reverse.

00:20:33.160 It's just a question of how and how aggressively and all that.

00:20:36.320 So they come over here to sort of promote that.

00:20:38.440 And in my view, Dan, and I don't, you know, I don't follow the Royals as closely as you do, but I keep an eye on them.

00:20:45.500 These two do not seek a lot of attention.

00:20:47.620 They don't they're not running around constantly coming in front of the cameras in America and trying to get on TV and trying to, you know, do charitable events that are also beneficial to them and the royal family, like a little bit here and there.

00:20:59.420 But to me, it doesn't seem like they seek the spotlight that much.

00:21:02.620 They go to a ribbon cutting.

00:21:04.120 They go to a homeless shelter.

00:21:05.500 They do the things that the royals do over there.

00:21:07.460 So now they've done it.

00:21:08.720 Now they I don't they haven't been over here together in years.

00:21:12.220 They do it.

00:21:13.140 And what are these other two?

00:21:14.920 Like like I said, the toddlers have to raise their own hands like back to us, back to us.

00:21:19.180 So it's got to feel like a thumb in the eye to William and Kate.

00:21:22.120 Then you look at what the Sussexes are doing in their own messaging that trailer.

00:21:28.180 I'm sorry, but it reminded me of forgive the imagery.

00:21:32.920 Chrissy Teigen had what she said was a miscarriage, later admitted was an abortion.

00:21:38.900 And she put out these photos of herself crying, crying hard, distraught in a hospital bed.

00:21:46.260 OK.

00:21:47.680 I'm sorry, Dan, but I have never taken a photo of myself crying.

00:21:52.120 And and certainly never released it to the public, saying, please feel sorry for me.

00:21:58.100 I don't understand that mentality.

00:22:00.220 And that is what they've done in this trailer.

00:22:04.000 As I count, I think there are at least two shots of Megan crying.

00:22:08.780 Here's one face in her hands, bent over, distraught with some sort of royal blanket in the background.

00:22:17.060 They've clearly had a photo.

00:22:18.340 Here she is again with his head back, like throwing his head back in despair and her touching her face, clearing tears.

00:22:25.720 Who does this?

00:22:27.140 They want people to feel sorry for them, which is the most unattractive piece of this couple.

00:22:34.740 I completely agree.

00:22:37.360 And you're right to point out this is the first royal tour for William and Kate in eight years to America.

00:22:43.620 So this was meant to be a big deal.

00:22:45.340 And they will be devastated that Harry and Megan have chosen to hijack it in the way that they have.

00:22:51.720 But in terms of the trailer itself, I mean, this series is going to be a tale of victimhood.

00:22:58.200 And sadly, Megan, in the woke media, we know that you can make lots of money these days for being a victim, especially if your victimhood is in some way connected to identity politics.

00:23:10.640 I'm the same age as Megan.

00:23:12.600 I find it so terrible that she's chosen to go down this path because we grew up in the 80s and the 90s where we were told that we should live a colorblind life and we should do anything but look at everyone's inutiful characteristics and try and be victims.

00:23:29.800 But Megan has realized there's actually a career in being a victim.

00:23:35.680 Obviously, it's bizarre when you're trying to be a victim when you are two of the most privileged, the richest people in the world.

00:23:46.680 They are connected.

00:23:48.320 They have everything that they want.

00:23:50.360 And so that's why at the end of the day, when it comes to Megan, she has to focus on race because it is race, which is the one unquestionable area.

00:24:02.280 And she knows it is the weak spot for the British royal family, which, let's be honest, is a white family.

00:24:10.280 Britain is a majority white country.

00:24:13.600 The royal family is white.

00:24:15.500 So that is why Megan knows that race is where she has to go down the path of in this series.

00:24:23.280 Yeah, that's her.

00:24:24.320 That's her card.

00:24:25.280 She's ready to play it.

00:24:28.100 Before we move on from Kate, I wanted to point out, my producers pulled the event at which they grabbed a screen grab from this Commonwealth Day of Service in 2019, making Kate look angry.

00:24:42.660 They used that.

00:24:43.800 We actually went back and looked at it.

00:24:45.500 If you look at the images from that same event, there's one of Kate greeting Megan that very day and she is holding her.

00:24:54.580 She's hugging her.

00:24:55.380 Hello, clearly giving her a warm embrace.

00:24:57.880 And you can see Megan's face smiling in the photo and Kate's leaning in to give her a nice greeting.

00:25:02.860 Weird, Dan, how that didn't make it into the trailer.

00:25:05.340 Only the shots that will make it look like, oh, poor me, everyone's mean, got in there.

00:25:11.820 Yeah, this is when they were still playing friends, Megan.

00:25:14.880 And it was actually the year after at the same service when I had just broken the story of Megxit where you could cut the tension with a knife because by that point it all exploded into the open.

00:25:29.400 But look, I don't think these two couples ever really got on, if I'm honest.

00:25:34.240 But at this point, you're right.

00:25:35.860 They were still trying.

00:25:37.000 They were still keeping up appearances, you might say, in public.

00:25:40.760 So it was very telling that in the trailer, they want to portray Kate as some sort of evil, nasty figure, the bad guy, if you like.

00:25:51.780 But if you're trying to portray Kate Middleton as the bad guy, I think you've got an uphill struggle.

00:25:57.500 Well, she certainly doesn't have Meghan Markle's difficult history of trying to make it in the royals' world as a commoner.

00:26:07.240 Oh, wait.

00:26:07.720 Yes, she does have exactly that history, Kate Middleton.

00:26:10.060 And she did just fine because she understood not to make it about herself.

00:26:13.660 But to hear Meghan Markle talk about it now.

00:26:15.960 She didn't want to be a victim.

00:26:17.160 And you're completely right.

00:26:18.380 She had just as much difficult publicity.

00:26:20.820 Remember, it took a long time for William to propose to Kate.

00:26:25.580 After what had happened with his parents, he didn't want to rush into anything.

00:26:30.180 At one point, they even took a break from each other.

00:26:32.960 They broke up.

00:26:34.180 And the press, the British press, described Kate as Weighty Katie.

00:26:39.060 And that became her nickname.

00:26:40.840 But Kate knew she had to play the long game.

00:26:44.300 And in the end, it worked out.

00:26:46.000 Yeah, so this is how Meghan Markle describes her experience.

00:26:52.480 OK, again, going back to the final episode of her podcast.

00:26:55.420 Again, she and Harry reportedly got $50 million from Spotify for this drivel.

00:27:00.640 And another $100 million from Netflix for this six-part docuseries.

00:27:05.240 It's like, Craig, what are they going to do when they run out of things to talk about themselves?

00:27:09.980 The only people are tuning in is because of their connection to the royals.

00:27:12.780 They want to hear royal dirt.

00:27:13.740 When they actually have to start talking about real things, things are going to get canceled

00:27:16.860 left and right, like her stupid series Pearl about a little woke girl who nobody wanted

00:27:21.040 to hear anything about.

00:27:22.100 So here's Meghan on her final podcast for now on her experience in doing this woke podcast

00:27:28.640 that lectures us all in terms of the language we need to use and how we need to be thinking

00:27:31.920 about and portraying women in film and modern day life.

00:27:36.000 Listen.

00:27:36.120 At times it's been funny, eye-opening, and sometimes uncomfortable.

00:27:44.360 And in that, especially in the discomfort, it made me think of the alchemy process, which

00:27:49.580 is this process in which a really dense, hard piece of material or metal can just be churned

00:27:53.960 and churned and put under so much pressure that you can't begin to imagine how it's going

00:27:59.620 to survive, what's going to come out of that.

00:28:02.800 But when it comes out the other side, it's gold, actual gold.

00:28:10.820 I mean, I'm just looking for my sick bucket.

00:28:17.160 Seriously, it is mumbo jumbo, Meghan.

00:28:21.080 And actually, I've been following the Spotify charts very closely, both in the US and the

00:28:25.700 UK, and archetypes has plummeted.

00:28:29.500 I mean, this is not a Joe Rogan-style podcast that has a loyal base of listeners.

00:28:35.740 This is a podcast that, yeah, had folk like you and me tuning in for curiosity's sake at the

00:28:40.500 beginning, and then realised this is a piece of woke rubbish and switching off forevermore.

00:28:48.000 So I think Spotify will be thinking, I wonder if we've got return on our investment, because

00:28:52.660 they didn't really get any revelations about the royal family that Harry and Meghan have

00:28:58.200 saved for Netflix and for Harry's book.

00:29:01.300 And remember, at the end of the day, this all comes down to money, Meghan, Harry and Meghan.

00:29:05.140 And, you know, fair enough, they want to be financially independent.

00:29:09.540 They never want to have to run to Daddy again, because they did bankroll them for many, many

00:29:15.580 years, including all of their time in the royal family, when they wanted to move into a new palace

00:29:20.780 and renovate it with beautiful Soho house furniture.

00:29:23.920 Daddy paid for that.

00:29:25.140 So they don't want to do that anymore.

00:29:27.240 But what that means is they have a very short window of earnings potential.

00:29:32.080 This is throwing out all of the red meat and all of the grenades now, because they are realistic

00:29:36.920 about the fact that, as you say, once they have dished all of their royal dirt, their

00:29:43.320 value in the market goes down.

00:29:45.680 Yeah.

00:29:45.920 Then what?

00:29:46.360 They've made the hundred from Netflix, 50 from Spotify.

00:29:49.740 His book.

00:29:50.380 What's that?

00:29:50.780 Another 25 million?

00:29:52.440 Yes.

00:29:53.360 We're talking 200 million dollars almost in the course of a year, all based on their

00:29:58.040 experience as royals.

00:29:59.120 I mean, really, Harry, she's done nothing.

00:30:00.660 She married him all based on his royal experience.

00:30:05.100 And once you've exploited that, I don't know how many how many books can you do?

00:30:07.900 I mean, how many times can you tell you or you spill the dirt, the tea on your family?

00:30:12.200 Maybe maybe repeatedly.

00:30:13.380 Maybe that's what he wants to be now.

00:30:14.840 Just somebody who keeps ripping on his own family forevermore and banking on it or cashing

00:30:18.980 in on it.

00:30:19.800 There is a scandal within the royal family related to race right now.

00:30:25.180 I'm going to pause the show, take a quick break and pick it up there because Dan's been

00:30:28.940 doing some interesting reporting on the background of the woman who now says she was the victim

00:30:34.100 of an alleged racist working within the royal family.

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00:31:13.080 Dan, something happened with the lady-in-waiting to the Queen.

00:31:18.000 She's been with the royal family since 1960 and a woman who was invited to go to Buckingham

00:31:25.380 Palace by Queen Consort Camilla.

00:31:28.980 Something bad happened there where now a black British woman is saying she was the victim of

00:31:35.660 racism by the lady-in-waiting to the to the late queen.

00:31:40.560 Can you explain what happened?

00:31:41.700 Yeah, let me explain, because I think it's important you know quickly a little bit about

00:31:46.160 Lady Susan Hussey, who is the lady-in-waiting in question.

00:31:50.980 She's not just any member of the royal household, Megan.

00:31:54.640 She was the best friend of Queen Elizabeth II.

00:31:58.000 She worked for her as a lady-in-waiting for 60 years, didn't take any money for that.

00:32:02.960 And just an indication to you as to how important she was to Queen Elizabeth II, do you remember

00:32:10.560 on the day of Prince Philip's funeral where the queen was unable to have anyone around her

00:32:16.940 because of the horrific COVID legislation here in the UK?

00:32:21.560 So she sat in the chapel alone, but she was allowed to have one person in the car ride to

00:32:27.360 the chapel for her late husband's funeral.

00:32:29.780 She chose Lady Susan Hussey to be by her side on that day.

00:32:34.460 So they were incredibly close.

00:32:36.540 And Lady Susan Hussey has been around the royal family for a long time.

00:32:40.120 She knows what to do, you would think, at events like this.

00:32:43.300 I was speaking to a friend of hers just this week who said, look, Nelson Mandela adored Lady

00:32:49.140 Susan Hussey.

00:32:50.000 So she's always had a good reputation.

00:32:52.260 Anyway, this woman, Ngozi Falani, who is a British charity worker, goes to the palace this week

00:33:01.540 and posts a transcript of a conversation that she claims took place between herself and Lady

00:33:08.060 Susan Hussey.

00:33:08.820 It features Lady Susan Hussey on numerous occasions pressing Falani to know where she is from because

00:33:17.480 Falani is a black British woman who is dressed, Megan, it is fair to say, and much of the media

00:33:24.400 won't point this out, but I will, who is dressed at this event in what looks to be African tribal

00:33:30.920 clothing.

00:33:31.760 So you could understand that perhaps there's the outfit.

00:33:34.700 Perhaps when you see someone like that at Buckingham Palace, perhaps you would ask where she is from.

00:33:40.680 But literally within hours of this tweet being posted, the royal PR machine has thrown 83-year-old

00:33:49.360 Lady Susan Hussey under the bus, forced her to resign, issued a grovelling apology on her behalf,

00:33:57.940 and almost accepted as fact that this conversation that took place was indeed racist.

00:34:04.780 So Lady Hussey, she's thrown to the wolves, and this woman, Ngozi Falani, then launches

00:34:11.620 a huge media campaign going on the BBC and Sly News, as I call them, and CNN and Alice all

00:34:20.620 around the world saying, this is proof that the royal family is racist.

00:34:25.160 I was subject to abuse, she said, at Buckingham Palace.

00:34:28.780 And the media has just lapped this up, Megan, because on the whole, the media, including in

00:34:32.980 the UK, is anti-monarchy and very woke.

00:34:35.860 But here's the thing.

00:34:37.160 I discovered that Ngozi Falani has actually been one of these Sussex Squad members, an

00:34:44.880 extremist supporter of Harry and Meghan for some time.

00:34:50.320 So in March 2021, this is following the Oprah Winfrey interview, Falani had posted on Twitter,

00:34:56.900 our charity supports black women domestic violence survivors.

00:35:00.980 I can't stay silent about this.

00:35:03.920 I admire Meghan for speaking out.

00:35:05.900 According to clear definition, it seems Meghan is a survivor of domestic violence from her

00:35:13.600 in-laws.

00:35:14.540 And she adds, P.S.

00:35:15.620 I'm glad hypocrite Piers left ITV in reference to his role, Piers Morgan's role with Meghan.

00:35:21.080 Now, let's just take a moment to realize that is Ngozi Falani suggesting that King Charles

00:35:29.300 and Camilla subjected Meghan to domestic violence.

00:35:33.320 So she's made that claim.

00:35:35.280 She still accepts Camilla's invitation to go to the palace.

00:35:40.000 She goes and has a conversation with Camilla at the palace.

00:35:43.560 And she just so happens to be subjected to racist abuse.

00:35:48.080 Now, look, I wasn't there for the conversation between Lady Hussey and Falani.

00:35:53.660 It may have been inappropriate, Meghan.

00:35:55.680 I think of my grandparents' generation.

00:35:58.360 They're the greatest generation.

00:35:59.760 These are the folk who lived through World War II.

00:36:02.380 Sometimes, Meghan, they're not used to this woke orthodoxy now that pervades our culture.

00:36:08.560 Sometimes they make some insensitive comments, you might say, to minorities.

00:36:12.980 But Lady Hussey, she a racist, really, for asking for where someone is from?

00:36:21.720 A question that royals have been asking various folk for decades?

00:36:26.600 Or did Falani have an ulterior motive as a Meghan and Harry suspect squad extremist to go to this

00:36:33.940 Buckingham Palace event and to find an example of racism?

00:36:38.700 Perhaps it's not one or the other.

00:36:40.460 Perhaps maybe it's somewhere in between.

00:36:43.120 But at the very least, I don't think that we should just be accepting this woman's claim

00:36:48.080 that she was abused at Buckingham Palace.

00:36:50.160 It's fact, given that she also claims that Charles and Camilla domestically abused Meghan,

00:36:55.780 which has proven to have come true.

00:36:58.040 Dan, they have worse screeners at Buckingham Palace than they do at Mar-a-Lago.

00:37:03.800 You've got to do a little Google searching before you invite people into your home.

00:37:08.540 But Meghan, can I just say on this, this is the problem with the royal family trying to go woke.

00:37:14.440 I mean, this charity that she runs is a Black Lives Matter funded charity.

00:37:18.440 And this is where the royal family is so desperate to be.

00:37:21.400 They're so scared of being accused of racism.

00:37:24.320 They're leaning in to some of these extremists and look at where it's resolved, what it's resulted in.

00:37:29.200 Well, and I think it's interesting that this woman who claims that she's been the victim of racism

00:37:34.540 has obviously lied already.

00:37:37.620 She's been caught in at least one lie.

00:37:39.300 I saw this on your show where she said publicly that she had never tweeted about Meghan.

00:37:45.180 We can play that so the audience can hear it themselves.

00:37:47.340 She apparently didn't realize we can see your tweets.

00:37:50.600 They're not private.

00:37:51.940 Here she is at a minimum misstating.

00:37:56.300 Others might say an outright lie.

00:37:58.100 Here it is.

00:38:00.100 I think you've previously tweeted about Meghan, the treatment of Meghan.

00:38:03.300 Are you feeling that this actually makes you think that some of what Meghan said about the way she was treated must have been bang on?

00:38:11.200 I have never tweeted about Meghan.

00:38:13.600 I have not joined that conversation.

00:38:16.060 And I won't do that now because, as I said, the focus needs to be on what happened within Buckingham Palace a couple of days ago.

00:38:24.480 OK, so not only did she do the tweet that you talked about accusing her in-laws of a domestically abusing Meghan, but on this is also from your reporting May 7th, 2022.

00:38:35.380 She tweeted out Harry and Meghan won't be allowed on the balcony.

00:38:39.000 This is, I think, for the Platinum Jubilee.

00:38:41.540 They're in a completely different category to Andrew.

00:38:44.000 He's linked to sexual crimes.

00:38:45.620 Harry married and had children with a black woman and all exclusively white balcony.

00:38:50.680 The only black people banned racism in all caps.

00:38:55.900 Honestly, these people are idiots for inviting this person to the to the Buckingham Palace.

00:38:59.380 So I have difficulty conjuring up too much sympathy for them.

00:39:02.240 Like, what did you think was going to happen?

00:39:04.240 What did you think?

00:39:04.720 She was your fan.

00:39:05.840 Did you think she wasn't going to stab you in the back?

00:39:08.080 And I don't know what happened with this lady in waiting, but this was a disaster waiting to happen.

00:39:12.780 And now I don't know whether she's consciously trying to cover up the fact that she was a hater before she ever stepped foot in there or she doesn't have a close tether on the truth just as a natural default.

00:39:24.080 But either way, she tweets out this quote transcript of the discussion, Dan.

00:39:28.400 And I'm like, oh, there's a transcript.

00:39:29.760 OK, let's see.

00:39:30.580 There's not a transcript.

00:39:31.820 It's she's calling it as transcript.

00:39:33.120 It's her own recollection of what happened.

00:39:35.620 But we don't actually know what was what went down between the two of them.

00:39:39.040 Well, exactly.

00:39:39.980 Or if it was a transcript, Megan, that would suggest that she has entered Buckingham Palace with a recording device, which would lend to the other theory that actually she went in looking for something to go wrong.

00:39:53.280 Oh, interesting.

00:39:54.480 I guess that's also possible.

00:39:56.340 I mean, I don't know.

00:39:58.120 It could be either.

00:39:59.080 It's either her recollection, which could be untrue, or she's recorded the conversation, which suggests that perhaps she has an agenda.

00:40:08.940 Her quote transcript is very detailed and does it makes you think she had a recording device on her because I'll read it to the audience.

00:40:17.620 First of all, she wants credit when she first releases it for saying, I have no wish to name and shame her.

00:40:23.860 That would be just as bad.

00:40:25.220 We prefer that this be handled kindly.

00:40:26.760 But her little transcript has the initials Lady S.H.

00:40:31.120 So it's like, hmm.

00:40:32.840 Take a rocket scientist.

00:40:34.940 Like what's it?

00:40:35.800 And then one line for Queen C.

00:40:39.500 Oh, whoever.

00:40:40.680 Anyway, OK, the transcript is just kind of bizarre.

00:40:44.660 She has Lady S.H. saying, where are you from?

00:40:47.040 Me.

00:40:47.720 Sista space.

00:40:48.800 S.H.

00:40:49.500 No, where do you come from?

00:40:50.460 Me.

00:40:50.840 We're based in Hackney.

00:40:52.460 S.H.

00:40:53.040 No, what part of Africa are you from?

00:40:54.980 And by the way, Dan, just for context, as I understand it, this is an event at which they were talking about the global problem of abuse of that women suffer.

00:41:03.320 So this it it might actually make some sense for her to be trying to determine what part of this global problem this woman is speaking.

00:41:12.380 I'm speaking to.

00:41:13.580 Right.

00:41:13.800 Like I can understand actually wanting to know where you're coming from and whose domestic issues are you telling us about?

00:41:20.180 Like I have no idea what was in this woman's head, but I do want to at least point that out.

00:41:23.940 No, where do you come from?

00:41:25.880 We're based in Hackney.

00:41:26.740 No, what part of Africa are you from?

00:41:28.500 I don't know.

00:41:29.340 They don't they didn't leave any records as H.

00:41:32.640 Well, you must know where you're from.

00:41:34.040 I spent time in France.

00:41:35.300 Where are you from?

00:41:36.540 Me here.

00:41:37.480 UK as H.

00:41:39.040 No, but what nationality are you?

00:41:41.000 Me.

00:41:41.280 I'm born here and I'm British as H.

00:41:44.300 No, but where do you really come from?

00:41:46.420 Where do your people come from?

00:41:48.320 Me.

00:41:48.940 My people.

00:41:49.940 Lady, what is this as H?

00:41:51.920 Oh, I can see that I am going to have a challenge getting you to say where you're from.

00:41:56.420 When did you first come here?

00:41:57.860 I mean, this is definitely cringy.

00:41:59.900 And me.

00:42:00.820 Lady, I'm a British national.

00:42:02.780 My parents came here in the 50s when S.

00:42:05.360 H.

00:42:06.140 Oh, I knew we'd get there in the end.

00:42:07.920 You're Caribbean.

00:42:09.020 I don't know.

00:42:09.560 How did she glean Caribbean from my parents came here in the 50s?

00:42:11.980 But OK.

00:42:12.960 Me.

00:42:13.480 No, lady.

00:42:14.540 I am of African heritage, Caribbean descent and British nationality.

00:42:18.700 That appears to be the end of it.

00:42:20.040 So the whole thing is just I have no idea what this woman's motives were, but it seems like

00:42:24.320 she's genuinely trying to figure out where this woman is from.

00:42:27.320 And it could not be because, oh, my God, you're black and you're here.

00:42:30.600 It could just be because, hey, we're trying to figure out where all the various representatives

00:42:34.420 who are here speaking on behalf of this issue.

00:42:36.020 What connection?

00:42:36.960 What part of the world do you have a connection to?

00:42:39.040 I have no idea because this woman, like the rest of the royal family, doesn't speak.

00:42:44.720 Indeed.

00:42:45.400 And look, completely, if we believe that transcript is correct, it was an uncomfortable conversation.

00:42:53.060 No one is trying to deny that.

00:42:56.000 I think where there is a real issue is the fact that immediately the royal family, Prince

00:43:04.260 William, Prince Charles, and I have to remind you, Megan, Prince William, this is his godmother.

00:43:10.260 So this is not only his grandmother's best friend.

00:43:14.020 It is his own godmother.

00:43:15.900 He immediately throws her under the bus and says racism isn't acceptable.

00:43:20.560 Our prime minister, Rishi Sunak, who is, of course, of Asian origin, last night speaks

00:43:27.240 out and says racism isn't acceptable.

00:43:29.700 And my issue is that that is immediately assuming that Lady Hussey was racist for having this

00:43:37.520 conversation.

00:43:38.280 I think it was an uncomfortable conversation.

00:43:41.040 Clearly, there was some sort of personality clash going on there.

00:43:44.540 And Lady Hussey should have realized, hang on a moment.

00:43:47.200 I'm just going to walk away from this.

00:43:48.740 This isn't going to lead to anywhere good.

00:43:50.620 But I will stress again, she's an 83-year-old woman from another generation who was used

00:43:57.220 to serving the late Queen Elizabeth II, who was the opposite of racist and who would never

00:44:03.560 have prescribed the idea of having a racist in her inner circle.

00:44:08.000 I mean, the Queen's life work was connected to the Commonwealth and improving the lot of

00:44:13.060 folk in Africa and folk in the Caribbean and folk in the Pacific region.

00:44:17.620 It's just so unfortunate, I think, that an incident like this happens.

00:44:22.900 Yeah, a bad conversation, maybe something that's a little bit embarrassing, maybe something,

00:44:28.060 Megan, that even could have warranted a personal apology.

00:44:31.260 But that's not what we've got here.

00:44:32.800 We've got cancellation and humiliation of an 83-year-old woman on a global scale for what

00:44:41.480 was an uncomfortable and maybe slightly inappropriate conversation.

00:44:44.880 To me, and this is my personal opinion, and many others may differ, but to me, I didn't

00:44:51.080 see any evidence there that Lady Hussey is a racist, and I certainly didn't see any evidence

00:44:56.980 that she subjected Fulani to abuse at Buckingham Palace, which is what she is now claiming.

00:45:02.860 It's like, after 60 years of service, just toss this octogenarian out with a no thank you.

00:45:08.740 I mean, it's just, it feels mean.

00:45:11.020 It feels cruel, as opposed to, she's been spoken to, she understands what she would like

00:45:14.860 the opportunity to apologize directly, which they've said, but this woman's not granting

00:45:18.980 it.

00:45:20.020 Yeah, and I think, Megan, for me, this sums up the real problem that William and Charles

00:45:24.580 have.

00:45:25.580 Because if they try and outwoke Harry and Megan, they are going to fail.

00:45:31.920 The Queen knew that she didn't have to dive into every social media controversy or tabloid

00:45:39.800 storm, there was a time and a place to get involved.

00:45:42.900 And I personally feel that William and Charles are going down a very dangerous path here.

00:45:48.740 The moment that the mainstream media jump on a story and claim racism, within hours, they've

00:45:55.540 committed a woman who has committed 60 years of service and is William's godmother to purgatory.

00:46:01.860 And I personally think they have to understand this is going to happen a lot now.

00:46:06.220 There are a lot of people who are on the side of Harry and Megan who are looking to try and

00:46:11.160 prove that the royal family is racist.

00:46:12.740 I mean, we saw it in Boston with Kate and William the other night, where they had to sit by and

00:46:17.000 watch this local Boston official lecture them about colonialism and about the need for reparations.

00:46:25.140 So personally, I think the royal family have to take a step back and not dive in to every

00:46:29.960 woke scandal, because otherwise, this is good.

00:46:34.980 I just think it's a slippery slope.

00:46:37.060 Yeah.

00:46:37.340 It's not a winnable war.

00:46:39.920 The whole point of the other side is to destroy you.

00:46:42.220 It's just to destroy you.

00:46:44.020 Before we go.

00:46:45.700 Meantime, you've got Harry.

00:46:47.700 Harry.

00:46:48.060 Harry, as far as I know, the only current member of the royal family to ever don a swastika,

00:46:52.900 being honored as an anti-racist at the RF Kennedy Human Rights Annual Ripple of Hope Award Gala.

00:47:02.940 It happens next week.

00:47:04.280 You cannot make this up.

00:47:05.340 It's being hosted by Alec Baldwin, who this year killed a woman on the set of his movie.

00:47:11.060 He's going to honor them.

00:47:12.100 You have to laugh.

00:47:13.180 It's so bizarre.

00:47:14.100 You have to laugh.

00:47:14.980 I like to correct me if I'm wrong, but Harry not only wore a Nazi uniform for Halloween

00:47:22.080 when he was younger, but also was openly accused of making racist statements about

00:47:28.100 his service mates over there in Afghanistan, a Pakistani member of his of his troop or his

00:47:37.900 squad.

00:47:38.300 I don't know how it's referred to in Great Britain.

00:47:41.380 But I mean, now this guy, why?

00:47:43.200 Because he married Meghan.

00:47:44.140 Now he gets an anti-racist award from the Kennedys.

00:47:48.460 I mean, Harry is literally the only senior member of the royal family who has had to apologize

00:47:53.840 twice for racist incidents.

00:47:57.020 The Nazi uniform and the use of the P word.

00:48:01.140 I don't even use that word.

00:48:02.600 It is so offensive in the UK.

00:48:04.240 It's really the equivalent of the N word.

00:48:06.420 He used it.

00:48:07.420 He was caught on video using it.

00:48:09.500 He is now winning an anti-racism award.

00:48:11.240 And you can understand, Meghan, and obviously we have no proof of this and we have had no

00:48:14.900 way to know.

00:48:15.520 There is no way to know.

00:48:16.420 But you can understand why there is at the very least from folk close to William and Kate

00:48:23.440 a suspicion about, oh, why has this Fulani story exploded this week?

00:48:30.620 It's very helpful for Meghan and Harry because even if they don't mention this incident on

00:48:37.700 stage and there are fears that they may do so, but even if they don't, you know that

00:48:42.200 everyone else is giving a nudge, nudge, wink, wink and saying, oh, that racist royal family,

00:48:46.400 that terrible lady hussy.

00:48:47.740 She just proved it, didn't she?

00:48:49.420 So the timing, Meghan, is very convenient.

00:48:54.000 It's on for sure.

00:48:55.440 It is on.

00:48:56.140 And the royal family's got the seed that they planted to deal with now.

00:49:01.420 Good luck with that.

00:49:02.840 Dan, always a pleasure.

00:49:04.120 Thanks for coming on.

00:49:05.660 Oh, my goodness.

00:49:06.040 It's been so great to be here, Meghan.

00:49:07.520 Thank you.

00:49:08.320 I love, love Dan.

00:49:09.440 The brilliant Dan Wood and everybody check him out on GB News.

00:49:12.040 And when we come back, we are staying international with two brilliant young women who I am really

00:49:16.060 looking forward to talking to you.

00:49:16.900 They have more to say on this, this lady Susan Hussey story and on the Dutch farmers.

00:49:21.720 One of our guests is from the Netherlands and is living this firsthand.

00:49:24.900 So we'll get into all of it in just a couple of seconds.

00:49:27.480 Don't go away.

00:49:31.080 Yay West, formerly known as Kanye West, is back to being banned on Twitter.

00:49:36.900 And for you could really argue good reason.

00:49:40.120 We have a lot to guess to get to with my next guests, political commentators Dominique Samuels

00:49:46.360 from England and Ava Vlardingerbrook from the Netherlands.

00:49:51.120 Ava, Dominique, great to have you guys here.

00:49:53.580 Thank you so much.

00:49:54.300 All right.

00:49:55.520 So, Ava, I hope I didn't mess up your last name too badly.

00:49:58.520 Vlardingerbrook.

00:49:59.500 No, not at all.

00:50:00.480 Not at all.

00:50:00.940 I'm well aware it's a difficult name, even for the Dutch.

00:50:03.860 So.

00:50:04.000 OK.

00:50:04.240 Well, this is so perfect because I think, Dominique, you were recently in the Netherlands

00:50:08.880 and Ava, you live there.

00:50:11.120 And I was just there this time last week.

00:50:13.240 I was there and I was on a Dutch farm.

00:50:15.840 So we'll get to that in one second.

00:50:17.760 But we've got to start where I left it off with my first guest, Dan Wooden.

00:50:20.500 And this this race, racism row inside Buckingham Palace with this woman who was very clearly

00:50:28.040 an activist who hated the royal family, but somehow got an invitation to go into the palace.

00:50:31.540 Hello, screeners.

00:50:32.600 Hello.

00:50:33.220 You can find a lot of women who care about domestic violence who don't come in hating

00:50:36.580 everyone she's about to meet.

00:50:38.660 This is just dumb.

00:50:39.980 This is just bad PR.

00:50:41.120 OK, so they bring her in and her name is Ngozi Filani.

00:50:46.500 And originally, she says she had this racism row where this lady in waiting kept pressing

00:50:52.500 her on.

00:50:52.820 Where do you come from?

00:50:53.460 Where do your people come from?

00:50:54.540 My my people, lady?

00:50:55.820 What is this?

00:50:56.940 When did you first come over here?

00:50:58.120 And she's British.

00:50:59.060 So she's taking offense at this grilling by the lady.

00:51:03.200 Then the next day she comes out and she tweets the first day she tweeted.

00:51:07.660 I had a mixed.

00:51:08.260 I have mixed feelings about how it went at Buckingham Palace.

00:51:11.680 And she sort of says this woman approached me.

00:51:14.240 This is what the conversation was.

00:51:15.900 And she releases the quote transcript.

00:51:17.660 The next day she tweets out.

00:51:19.460 It is not our wish to reveal the person involved, though she's already identified her as Lady

00:51:24.380 S.H.

00:51:25.380 It is the system that needs to be revised.

00:51:28.000 Yes, the person was offensive, but it serves no purpose to name and shame her.

00:51:32.020 It would make us just as bad.

00:51:33.500 We prefer that this be handled kindly.

00:51:35.860 Well, since then, that was November 30th.

00:51:39.540 This woman has spent I mean, she's on a media tour, a bonanza of media telling everyone who

00:51:45.900 will listen how racist this woman was, how much abuse it was project.

00:51:50.880 It was prolonged racism.

00:51:52.900 I felt very unwelcome.

00:51:54.340 I felt attacked.

00:51:55.440 But and that whole like I it serves no purpose to name and shame thing that's gone out the

00:52:00.660 window once she realized that there were television cameras who wanted to talk to her about it.

00:52:04.920 So I'll start with you on it, Dominique.

00:52:06.000 What do you make of the whole dust up?

00:52:07.820 I think it's really driven by an agenda.

00:52:10.520 And of course, the left wing press are just completely jumping all over it.

00:52:14.640 And I think that agenda is obviously one that supports Harry and Meghan's stories of racism,

00:52:21.660 you know, from the royal family within the palace.

00:52:25.460 For me, again, it's this idea that just because someone says they've been a victim of racism,

00:52:32.320 we should just immediately believe it and not question it.

00:52:36.000 And of course, when you actually delve deeper into the story, it's not as clear cut as it

00:52:41.280 may seem.

00:52:42.420 People assume, you know, it's an 80 year old woman.

00:52:44.720 She must have been racist.

00:52:46.460 She must have not wanted Ngozi there.

00:52:50.300 But, you know, when you make an outward effort, you make a concerted effort to look like you

00:52:56.780 come from a different country.

00:52:59.100 You know, we can see clearly her cultural hair, her cultural dress.

00:53:03.300 Her ancestry is clearly very important to her.

00:53:06.900 And she's put that on display.

00:53:09.220 How can you then not expect someone to ask you where you're from?

00:53:14.180 That would suggest that perhaps you're not as proud of your ancestry or heritage as you

00:53:19.860 claim, or that you're there with an agenda looking for a problem and looking to cause trouble.

00:53:25.980 And I feel like it's a bit of both with a lot of ethnic minorities, whether purposely

00:53:31.120 or not, because looking at the quote unquote transcripts that she posted, it seemed that

00:53:36.280 she was being deliberately obtuse, that lady was asking where she was from.

00:53:39.980 I've been asked countless times, not just by white people, actually very little by white

00:53:44.840 people, but from other ethnic minorities.

00:53:46.860 For example, when I'm in a taxi and the taxi driver who's from, say, Pakistan, for example,

00:53:51.300 asks me where I'm really from.

00:53:52.800 I don't get offended.

00:53:54.140 I don't get my back up.

00:53:55.100 I don't start tweeting about it.

00:53:56.560 I'll just simply say, do you mean ethnicity?

00:53:59.300 State my ethnicity, which is Jamaican and English.

00:54:01.680 We have a lovely old conversation and move on.

00:54:03.740 No one needed to be offended.

00:54:05.120 But she was clearly looking to be offended.

00:54:07.200 Thank you.

00:54:07.920 That is so exactly right.

00:54:09.320 That's and all the woke are.

00:54:11.140 I mean, it's like you're on quicksand when you're talking to a woke person.

00:54:14.300 Everything you say around every corner is going to be judged through this unforgiving lens.

00:54:18.340 I will say this, even our my friend, Konstantin Kissen, he tweeted out a very funny tweet.

00:54:25.040 It's got him in a kerchief with a tie underneath.

00:54:29.700 And he writes, from now on, I'm going to walk around dressed like this and he is Russian,

00:54:35.160 by the way, Ukrainian.

00:54:36.100 And he's Russian.

00:54:36.720 He's married to Ukrainian.

00:54:37.720 And change my name to Vladimir Vladimir Vladimirovich Vladimir Vrmov.

00:54:42.500 Sorry, butchered that.

00:54:43.660 And if you ask me where I'm really from, I'm going to report you for a hate crime.

00:54:49.900 I mean, he's got a point.

00:54:51.440 It's not, you know, the lady may have been genuinely curious based on how her guest was

00:54:57.880 presenting herself and what they were there for, which was a global look at domestic violence

00:55:02.520 against women.

00:55:04.700 I totally agree.

00:55:05.740 I think I totally agree with Dominic here.

00:55:07.580 Also, I think this is just I mean, this is so disingenuous.

00:55:11.680 It's the whole thing coming, showing up head to toe, dressed in African dress and then being

00:55:18.080 offended and saying that you are abused for being asked where you're from.

00:55:23.300 I think it's just it must have been a setup.

00:55:25.820 I can't imagine it's anything else.

00:55:27.700 And then to go into the media and talk about it.

00:55:30.580 It's it's also it's just I would say it's almost offensive to anyone who really is a victim

00:55:35.180 of abuse that you go and claim that you've been abused by being asked where you're from.

00:55:39.800 I mean, I'm not even going to say, oh, this might have been an awkward situation or, oh,

00:55:44.900 this is an elderly woman who may not know.

00:55:47.700 I think it is a totally valid question to ask, considering the things that she was wearing

00:55:53.020 and in general, just why would we criminalize the idea that you can ask someone where they're

00:55:59.080 from?

00:55:59.680 Why is that a bad thing?

00:56:01.540 I know we used to do it all the time because you're curious.

00:56:04.320 You want to find out somebody's background.

00:56:05.680 How else do we learn about people who we can tell might not be here or we have a suspicion

00:56:10.380 might not have been born here?

00:56:12.900 It's fun.

00:56:13.580 It's like it's an opportunity to learn about their backgrounds.

00:56:15.800 You know, you're Dutch.

00:56:16.620 I'd love to know more about the Netherlands.

00:56:18.200 Like, what's wrong with that, Dominique?

00:56:19.700 You're in England.

00:56:20.380 Like what from I'd like to know more about it.

00:56:23.180 But now the woke thinks of the woke.

00:56:25.260 Even going there is a sin that shows you're a bigot.

00:56:28.420 This woman, you've referenced it a couple of times.

00:56:30.400 And Dan, what reference that?

00:56:31.300 I'll just play the sound.

00:56:31.940 But this is how Ngozi Falani now speaks about the incident that she, you know, originally

00:56:35.880 said she didn't want to name and shame.

00:56:37.500 But here she is talking about how bad it was, Sat 12.

00:56:41.340 We just want to bring it back to the 16 days of activism.

00:56:44.260 This is about violence against women and girls.

00:56:46.800 And although I didn't experience physical violence, what I feel I experienced was a form

00:56:52.260 of abuse.

00:56:53.340 Okay, so it's a form of abuse, she says.

00:56:57.240 And then she also told the BBC that it soon dawned on me very quickly, this had nothing

00:57:04.660 to do with her capacity to understand.

00:57:07.040 This was her trying to make me denounce my British citizenship.

00:57:12.960 Did you get that, Dominique?

00:57:14.240 Is that your takeaway?

00:57:15.040 Sorry.

00:57:18.980 Wow.

00:57:20.660 This level of paranoia is scary.

00:57:26.260 And, you know, I don't mean to be harsh here.

00:57:29.760 And I know this might sound harsh, but I really question her mental capacity to actually be

00:57:35.680 able to be a mentor to other women when she's going around with that level of paranoia.

00:57:42.640 How would you even know that Lady Hussey was trying to make you denounce your British

00:57:49.020 citizenship?

00:57:50.040 What is she talking about?

00:57:51.340 And again, on Good Morning Britain, her ancestry is on full display.

00:57:57.840 Your everyday black British person does not go around dressed like that.

00:58:02.140 Just being honest here, I don't go around dressed like that.

00:58:05.600 It suggests that she's very proud of where she's from.

00:58:08.860 So she should have been wanting to shout it from the rooftops.

00:58:11.880 But clearly not.

00:58:13.140 She had an agenda.

00:58:14.080 And really, the usual suspects have just jumped all over it.

00:58:17.980 And I'm sure she's extremely happy with herself.

00:58:20.720 She's proven Megan's point.

00:58:23.380 However, quite interestingly, there are some tweets going around.

00:58:26.480 These are alleged tweets.

00:58:28.140 I'm not, you know, verifying them or saying that they're true.

00:58:30.820 But apparently a mixed race woman who asked for help from Sister Space, which is Ngozi's

00:58:36.320 charity, she claims she actually faced discrimination for being mixed race.

00:58:40.580 So it's quite ironic that Ngozi is batting for Megan so much in those unearthed tweets

00:58:47.840 that you showed.

00:58:48.640 That's all I'll say.

00:58:49.880 And honestly, just to boot an 83-year-old woman who with, you know, 60 years of loyal

00:58:53.760 service to the royal family, which she did apparently for free, according to Dan, just

00:58:58.640 to boot her out for one unfortunate conversation where she may have, you know, just not understood

00:59:02.940 where the lines are drawn in modern day conversation.

00:59:05.400 It just it does telegraph something about where the royal family is going, and I'm not

00:59:09.160 sure it's it's something good.

00:59:11.600 And I was saying to Dan, Ava, that in the meantime, we've got Harry and Megan being honored

00:59:16.020 with an anti-racist award by the Kennedys.

00:59:20.180 They're going to honor them on Tuesday at an event at which Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin is

00:59:25.520 going to host.

00:59:26.820 I mean, like I like Harvey Weinstein wasn't available.

00:59:30.200 I don't like who.

00:59:32.020 Oh, wait, no, he's not.

00:59:33.880 I just you can't.

00:59:35.320 The left.

00:59:35.980 There's nothing you can do to get truly canceled on the left.

00:59:38.540 They will resurrect you.

00:59:39.840 They will give an anti-racism award to a guy who literally dressed like a Nazi for Halloween.

00:59:44.320 It's no problem.

00:59:46.040 Oh, the list of left wing idiocracies is just endless.

00:59:48.600 And that's what this is, right?

00:59:49.640 It's all clown world.

00:59:50.720 I mean, this 83 year old woman, really, anyone who genuinely looks at what just happened

00:59:55.820 here would, you know, think it's it's not it's not a horrible crime to ask someone where

01:00:01.260 they're from.

01:00:02.180 Harry now being a spokesperson for anti-racism.

01:00:05.480 Why?

01:00:05.800 Because he married a woman who is mixed race.

01:00:08.520 Is that it?

01:00:09.520 You know, none of this makes sense.

01:00:11.500 But that's, I guess, what is normal nowadays.

01:00:14.580 Everything that is not normal is normal.

01:00:16.360 And the other way around, it's it's yeah, it's an upside down world.

01:00:19.160 And that's the world that we live in, sadly.

01:00:21.520 But meanwhile, these same, you know, wokesters will tell us that, no, a white person who

01:00:26.260 marries a black person absolutely can still be a racist and probably is probably is, actually.

01:00:31.920 And even having a mixed race child or adopting a black child, if you're white, you're racist

01:00:37.840 too.

01:00:38.200 That's colonialism.

01:00:39.120 Remember, we heard even Ken Kenry say that about Amy Coney Barrett, our Supreme Court

01:00:42.240 justice, like with everybody else, especially people on the right, loving black people, giving

01:00:48.660 birth to a black baby.

01:00:50.160 No, none of that gives you a pass.

01:00:52.020 But if you're on the left side, right, if you're hairy, all your past racism can be excused

01:00:58.320 because you married Meghan Markle and you're willing to show up to their stupid event.

01:01:02.380 Right.

01:01:02.840 But then that shows you again that this is just neo-Marxism, right?

01:01:05.800 It's a hierarchy of victimization.

01:01:07.960 So if you're white, you're the perpetrator anyway.

01:01:10.400 That's basically what this comes down to.

01:01:11.980 And when we're talking about racist remarks, I don't think there is one single news article

01:01:17.240 in a Dutch press where my blonde hair and blue eyes are not mentioned and then brought

01:01:22.500 into relation to my political views.

01:01:25.520 So when you look like me, then it's fine, right?

01:01:28.560 But the other way around, it's obviously you could never even mention it.

01:01:32.300 So it shows you once again, these people have an agenda.

01:01:35.780 It's a disingenuous agenda.

01:01:37.600 It has nothing to do with anti-racism.

01:01:39.820 It is a deeply racist agenda, but it just goes one way.

01:01:43.600 That's all this is.

01:01:45.520 OK, now, speaking of isms, not racism in this case, but anti-Semitism, it was on full display

01:01:52.140 yesterday.

01:01:52.820 I couldn't believe I don't know if you watch the Kanye live stream on or yay live stream

01:01:57.760 on Alex Jones.

01:01:58.760 I can honestly say it's the first time I ever sat down and watched like a full episode

01:02:01.620 of Alex Jones.

01:02:02.620 I did interview him.

01:02:03.720 So I watched a lot of clips of Alex, but I'd never seen Alex Jones's like full live

01:02:07.580 stream.

01:02:08.480 It was insane.

01:02:09.940 I was texting my producers like, if you're not watching this, you really should tune

01:02:12.420 in.

01:02:12.660 There's no chance we're not going to be covering this tomorrow.

01:02:14.460 It was like it was it was bonkers.

01:02:17.100 Absolutely bonkers.

01:02:18.960 For those of you who missed it, here's just a little sample of what yay, who I should tell

01:02:23.640 the watching audience, people who watch this on YouTube, he's got a black mask over his

01:02:27.820 face.

01:02:28.640 Looks like kind of a ski mask, like a fashionistas ski mask, kind of like Kim Kardashian wore when

01:02:33.360 she wore Balenciaga to the Met Gala a couple of years ago.

01:02:35.980 I think it was a misogynistic look they put her in.

01:02:39.960 Anyway, here he is with his thoughts on Hitler.

01:02:43.860 You're not a Nazi.

01:02:45.200 You don't deserve to be called that a demonized.

01:02:47.860 Well, I see good things about Hitler also.

01:02:53.200 I love everyone and Jewish people are not going to tell me you can love, you know, us and you

01:03:02.940 can love what we're doing to you with the contracts and you can love what we're, you know, what

01:03:07.080 we're pushing with the pornography.

01:03:08.440 But this guy that invented highways, invented the very microphone that I use as a musician,

01:03:15.400 you can't say out loud that this person ever did anything good.

01:03:19.320 And I'm done with that.

01:03:20.940 I'm done with the classifications.

01:03:23.240 Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.

01:03:28.720 It's especially, especially Hitler.

01:03:33.140 And I've just got to play you.

01:03:34.860 This one is just I can't.

01:03:36.680 It's 17.

01:03:38.100 He actually has Alex Jones trying to convince him.

01:03:42.200 I do think Hitler killed some people.

01:03:44.440 OK, just listen to this.

01:03:47.040 You know, it's like he had a really cool outfit and stuff and he was a really good architect.

01:03:51.500 And so you're in love with the with the with the with the with the look of it.

01:03:56.140 And he didn't kill six million Jews.

01:03:57.880 That's just like factually incorrect.

01:03:59.800 Let's get the Ronald Reagan clip.

01:04:00.960 They show me yesterday.

01:04:01.720 Sorry, go ahead.

01:04:02.240 Ronald Reagan said that, too.

01:04:03.680 Well, I think Hitler did target and kill some people.

01:04:05.680 So I think, you know, I think Obama killed Palestinians.

01:04:09.660 No, I hear you here.

01:04:11.060 Here's where I think the frustration is.

01:04:12.340 Nick, you can comment on this.

01:04:13.220 And Obama was not the first black president.

01:04:15.360 He was another Jewish president.

01:04:18.500 Oh, my God, Dominique.

01:04:20.100 I mean, when you got Alex Jones, like, no, I definitely killed some people like Hitler.

01:04:23.600 You know, this this is so disconnected from reality.

01:04:28.780 I almost don't know what to say.

01:04:30.940 Yeah, I mean, I am just completely done with Kanye, to be honest.

01:04:36.300 I've defended him.

01:04:37.660 I've tried to understand where he's coming from, but I'm just completely done.

01:04:43.420 To be fair, there were reports with Adidas employees when he was working, obviously doing

01:04:50.600 Yeezy with Adidas, that he was praising Hitler and making those sorts of comments to stuff

01:04:56.620 there.

01:04:56.940 I didn't believe it because I didn't think that his message of love, of God, of Jesus,

01:05:03.840 you know, reigning against Hollywood and them sexualizing his children.

01:05:07.320 I didn't think the two aligned.

01:05:10.720 Clearly, he is in a completely different reality, a completely different planet.

01:05:15.880 I think with what he was saying, he forgets about proportionality.

01:05:20.320 Of course, bad people can do some good things.

01:05:24.180 But we're talking about people that were responsible for the deaths of millions of people,

01:05:29.200 for the rape of women, for the torture of children.

01:05:31.600 And there is no way that you can defend that level of evil.

01:05:37.320 And for Kanye to talk so much about God and Jesus, at this point, I feel as though it's

01:05:42.880 a cover for his own narcissism.

01:05:46.360 I think he's extremely self-interested.

01:05:48.340 And that was confounded by the fact that he was also defending Balenciaga, doing interviews,

01:05:55.860 still wearing Balenciaga, whilst at the same time waxing lyrical about the sexualization

01:06:01.460 of his children and the anti-God agenda in Hollywood.

01:06:04.920 But he doesn't make sense.

01:06:06.180 And I've just completely washed my hands of him right now, if I'm being honest.

01:06:09.720 It's so true.

01:06:10.560 And he wants to blame, not that we're going to get into each one of his claims, but he

01:06:13.680 wants to blame Jewish people for the sexualization of his children, of his wife, even, that Kim's

01:06:20.160 having sex with Pete Davidson by her fireplace, that the Jewish people, the Jewish media moguls

01:06:26.820 made her tweet that out.

01:06:28.660 Meanwhile, if you want to know who sexualized Kim Kardashian, you should look at Kim Kardashian.

01:06:32.560 You could look at her mother, Kris Jenner.

01:06:35.020 And by the way, Kanye or Ye, you can look at yourself.

01:06:37.420 You can look at yourself because I saw you tweet out when Kim Kardashian did that naked

01:06:42.560 photo spread for the whatever that magazine was we'd never heard of and said, I broke the

01:06:46.540 internet with her enormous naked bottom all greased up and her boobs all greased up and

01:06:53.480 without some champagne glass.

01:06:54.880 And he tweeted it out with all night long.

01:07:00.500 He had no problem with his wife being sexualized on the internet.

01:07:04.120 That's her bread and butter.

01:07:05.520 He was married to her for some 10 plus years.

01:07:07.520 So please spare me.

01:07:08.780 OK, and by the way, the kids, the only reason we know what the kids look like is because the

01:07:13.620 parents have allowed it for all their lives to the point where the kids are now trying

01:07:18.160 to hold up signs in front of their faces as Kim drags them to another fashion event.

01:07:21.940 Um, I don't know whether they want to be on camera or not, but they are thanks to the

01:07:25.900 parents.

01:07:26.720 Anyway, that's a separate issue.

01:07:28.740 But Ava, the, the, the attempt to draw moral equivalence between Adolf Hitler and Barack

01:07:36.220 Obama shows you how far gone this guy is.

01:07:40.060 Oh, it's absolutely insane.

01:07:42.060 I mean, this is reality stranger than fiction for sure.

01:07:45.420 And it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's also, it's disgusting, obviously, but it's such a

01:07:49.520 disappointment that once again, you know, you can never, we can never put our hope

01:07:53.380 clearly in anyone coming from Hollywood in general or the pop industry or the entertainment

01:07:57.900 industry.

01:07:58.560 Because I, I mean, when he did that interview with Tucker Carlson, there were some things

01:08:03.060 that he was saying, for example, about abortion that I thought was, you know, really profound

01:08:07.740 coming from someone from that industry.

01:08:09.140 And I was like, oh, this is great.

01:08:10.400 And Dominique, I heard you say like, oh, you know, we wanted to defend him, but this is

01:08:14.540 obviously where you just draw the line.

01:08:16.040 There's no coming back from this.

01:08:18.840 Well, that's why, I mean, and I love Tucker.

01:08:20.540 He's a good friend, but he doubt he should have included the anti-Semitic remarks in the

01:08:23.900 interview because that would have shown us, right?

01:08:27.460 Like it, you, it's almost a red flag, right?

01:08:29.760 It is not almost, it is a red flag for the audience at home, hearing him say all these

01:08:33.180 things that are like, you know, sweet nothings to conservatives.

01:08:38.020 But if he had put that stuff in there about his, because he made comments to Tucker too, about

01:08:42.080 that we're anti-Semitic, it would have been a red flag.

01:08:44.300 Like, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, let's not, you know, throw our arms, our arms

01:08:48.360 around this guy.

01:08:49.140 There's something deeply problematic going on here, but it, you know, whatever.

01:08:53.460 Kanye has exposed himself repeatedly on show after show, after show, there was no suppressing

01:08:59.580 it.

01:08:59.840 There was no hiding it.

01:09:00.640 There was no getting it under control.

01:09:01.900 He clearly feels it very deeply.

01:09:04.160 And you raised an interesting point about the Balenciaga thing.

01:09:08.020 Dominique, what?

01:09:09.200 So he did defend them.

01:09:10.320 And meanwhile, this, this organization with that, that's paid him, that's paid his wife,

01:09:15.580 but they dumped him in the wake of his earlier anti-Semitic comments.

01:09:19.800 He's defending them despite the fact that they're actually pushing child pornography, child

01:09:26.860 pornographic like images in their latest ad campaign for which now they apologize.

01:09:32.760 But clearly they were the ones who approved it.

01:09:34.220 Yeah, clearly they were the ones that approved it.

01:09:37.260 Now, you know, there's media reports about a $25 million lawsuit for the production company.

01:09:45.220 I think it's called Group 6.

01:09:47.220 But at the end of the day, there are extremely senior figures at Balenciaga that would have

01:09:52.420 had to approve this campaign.

01:09:54.940 And, you know, you could perhaps deny culpability if it was just one incident, but there are several

01:10:02.260 repeated, you know, ongoing references to child abuse, child torture, child pornographic

01:10:09.960 material littered all throughout the campaign.

01:10:14.280 Balenciaga's main stylist, she's called Lota Vovoca.

01:10:18.000 She locked her Instagram page, but if you just have a quick clickety-click on her Instagram

01:10:23.100 page, you can find a host of disturbing, sick images, all featuring children, satanic ritual

01:10:32.940 abuse rituals, blood, teddy bears, which featured in the campaign, bunny rabbits also featured in

01:10:40.900 the campaign.

01:10:41.800 She was also pictured with Kanye West, actually.

01:10:43.720 Um, so it's obvious where these ideas came from.

01:10:47.960 So for them to just act like this was some, you know, attempt to defame them or make them

01:10:54.260 look bad by random photographers or production companies, I think is a complete fallacy.

01:11:00.000 Gladly, though, nobody's letting them get away with this.

01:11:03.400 Although I am noticing in the press, uh, nice stories aimed at making Kim Kardashian look like

01:11:10.140 she hasn't completely sold her soul to Balenciaga.

01:11:13.320 Um, we know that's the case, but there you go.

01:11:15.840 That's Hollywood.

01:11:16.740 When it comes to false accusations of racism, they'll scream and shout.

01:11:22.140 But when it comes to actual child pornographic material and references to child abuse, they'll

01:11:28.000 turn a blind eye and you'll have people even like Kanye West coming out and defending them

01:11:33.240 and still wearing their clothes after the controversy, um, has gone full blown and viral on social

01:11:38.600 media.

01:11:40.600 Yes.

01:11:41.600 The lawsuit that Balenciaga has filed against the, uh, the people who put together the one

01:11:46.160 ad campaign, they're not denying that the one is showing the little four-year-old girls

01:11:50.840 with the BDSM teddy bears and the cocktail glasses around them and all of the chains and

01:11:56.900 collars and all that.

01:11:58.240 They're not denying that they, that they're responsible for that.

01:12:00.560 It's one showing a purse, a handbag that I guess was both Adidas and Balenciaga made or

01:12:06.460 inspired.

01:12:07.080 And behind that purse is a child pornography, uh, decision from the U S Supreme court and

01:12:14.080 a book that features what, you know, it's not actual, but what appears to be castrated

01:12:20.680 toddlers covered in blood behind it.

01:12:23.800 Nice ad for your handbag.

01:12:25.740 So they're claiming, Oh, we didn't know in that one that that's what you did, but, but

01:12:30.640 the, um, my team was searching and found a vice article from 2016, um, that, that quotes

01:12:37.680 the creative director who's at issue here.

01:12:39.640 Demna is his last name.

01:12:40.980 And Lotta, the woman you mentioned, she hasn't been with him since 17, but she was with them

01:12:45.080 then he says, quote, someone wrote that Lotta, the stylist Gosha, the, who's the designer and

01:12:53.240 I grew up on child pornography and radiation from Chernobyl, which is why we're so fucked

01:12:59.720 up.

01:13:00.480 Demna laughs in this vice article.

01:13:02.720 I mean, it's, this was their thing.

01:13:04.820 They knew that people, it was so obvious it was being identified by people in the fashion

01:13:09.700 industry well prior to right now, it just got worse and worse and worse until the mainstream

01:13:16.660 people who don't pay attention to fashion and its images saw what they saw and said, Oh

01:13:20.980 my God, what have you done?

01:13:22.620 But they've been getting away with this for years, Ava.

01:13:26.680 Yeah, that's, I think that's the problem.

01:13:28.660 I mean, obviously this was highly intentional.

01:13:31.080 Like you said, the Supreme Court case, the tape where it said Baal with double A, the

01:13:36.980 reference to the demon who they sacrificed children to, you know, all of this.

01:13:42.960 I don't believe for a second that this slipped anyone's view, you know, this was all highly

01:13:47.860 intentional, but they went too far.

01:13:50.300 The people now saw it for what it is, but obviously these types of people, the two individuals

01:13:55.120 that we just mentioned, but in general, uh, Hollywood pop culture, a lot of pop stars

01:14:00.900 flirt with all sorts of satanic rituals and ideas.

01:14:05.400 So this one just crossed the line for too many people, you know, it was too out in the

01:14:09.700 open.

01:14:10.520 Uh, the devil wears Balenciaga, uh, is, is now a fact, you know, that's, that's something

01:14:15.640 that nobody can deny, but I think it's a good thing that for once, at least, I mean, Hollywood

01:14:20.720 is still very, very quiet, obviously.

01:14:22.400 Um, but that general, like in general, ordinary people now see what's going on here.

01:14:27.460 What type of sinister and sick people are behind this?

01:14:30.860 Because even if it's not graphic, you know, child pornography, it's obviously something

01:14:35.640 that glorifies it, or at least hints towards it and flirts with it and promotes it.

01:14:40.240 And if you don't stop there and say, no, we're not doing this in any way, shape or form,

01:14:48.140 then I don't think that we have a society that you can call a civilization.

01:14:52.820 You know, that's where you should draw the absolute line.

01:14:55.440 Yeah.

01:14:55.620 It's not hard to speak out against this and it's not how Kim Kardashian does not need

01:14:59.800 to reevaluate her relationship with Balenciaga.

01:15:03.300 There's nothing to reevaluate.

01:15:04.820 You have all the facts you need.

01:15:06.140 You just don't give a shit.

01:15:07.300 That's, that's the truth.

01:15:08.340 That's what's happened.

01:15:09.000 She wants the, she wants to be adorned in their dresses and she wants the money from

01:15:12.460 the deal.

01:15:12.900 And it doesn't matter how much money she already has or how many dresses she can afford

01:15:17.280 without them.

01:15:18.380 She, it's a vanity play for her.

01:15:20.020 And not to mention Nicole Kidman and Bella Hadid, who are featured in the ad, Nicole is

01:15:25.080 in the, in the latest ad campaign.

01:15:26.280 Hasn't said a word.

01:15:27.460 Where's her?

01:15:27.980 Where's, where's she?

01:15:29.300 Why hasn't she said anything?

01:15:30.320 Why does she get a pass?

01:15:31.160 She doesn't.

01:15:32.340 Um, all right, let's switch gears.

01:15:33.460 Cause I really want to talk about the Dutch farmers.

01:15:36.200 So we went there with our family for, uh, American Thanksgiving and, uh, we kind of did

01:15:40.820 our pre-celebration before we left.

01:15:42.080 And I was totally delighted by the Netherlands.

01:15:46.220 I, Holland was so beautiful.

01:15:47.660 We were in Amsterdam.

01:15:49.040 The people were absolutely warm, loving, kind.

01:15:53.380 Everybody spoke English.

01:15:54.320 So by the way, to American tourists, if you're thinking about going there, it's very easy.

01:15:57.460 Literally everybody speaks English.

01:15:58.940 Um, and it's just totally charming.

01:16:00.360 It's a city on canals and it's romantic and the food was great and everything.

01:16:04.720 But I was interested in the Dutch farmers and we went intentionally to a Dutch farm and our

01:16:10.380 purpose in going was we made cheese and did sort of the touristy thing.

01:16:15.020 Here's a picture of the farm we went to and you'll see some there.

01:16:17.800 I'm making my cheese.

01:16:19.180 Um, my kids were with me, my husband, we all made, it was delicious.

01:16:22.380 We made some Gouda and, um, we talked to the Dutch farmer about this crisis, about how the

01:16:28.080 government is shutting down thriving farms in the name of fighting climate change.

01:16:34.820 His farm was not one of them.

01:16:36.480 He was very thankful to tell us because they were not near one of the designated sites that

01:16:42.520 there's apparently certain sites around Holland where they're saying, if you're near this,

01:16:45.880 you're getting shut down first.

01:16:47.020 And so he wasn't yet on the list, but he could feel it coming.

01:16:50.020 And so, Ava, explain what's now happening and what the government's doing that has the

01:16:54.680 farmers taken to the streets to protest.

01:16:57.600 Right.

01:16:57.940 Well, I'm very happy to hear that you had a fun time in my country.

01:17:00.960 And I would say this, your description is right.

01:17:04.600 The Netherlands consists of a really nice people.

01:17:07.120 We have great people here, but we have a terrible government.

01:17:10.040 Our government consists of a bunch of, of liars and inhumane thieves.

01:17:13.920 So what they're doing actually now is on the basis of EU regulations surrounding nitrogen

01:17:19.200 emissions.

01:17:19.860 Our government is going to expropriate our farmers and they're actually going to expropriate

01:17:26.160 over 3000 farms in till 2030.

01:17:32.060 And so this is all under the guise, again, of this nitrogen crisis, which frankly is nothing

01:17:36.920 but a manufactured crisis.

01:17:38.400 It doesn't exist apart from on paper.

01:17:40.520 And all of these people, you know, the Dutch farming industry is a huge industry.

01:17:46.200 We are an incredibly tiny country, but we are the second largest exporter of agricultural

01:17:50.320 products after the United States.

01:17:52.900 I mean, that is something we are good at this stuff.

01:17:55.480 And a lot of farmers have been in this business, not just themselves, but their their ancestors

01:18:00.700 oftentimes for centuries on end.

01:18:02.780 And now suddenly we have a government that says, oh, there's climate change.

01:18:07.500 And by the way, you are going to have to give up your land, not to the market, you know,

01:18:12.000 not for you to keep it, but for you to give it to us.

01:18:15.040 So that should tell you everything that you need to know.

01:18:18.160 There is a hidden agenda behind this.

01:18:20.140 And it has two facets.

01:18:22.220 I would say the Dutch government needs more land because we have an ever growing population,

01:18:28.760 not because the Dutch people are having a ton of babies, but because we have open borders

01:18:33.480 and we have about a thousand migrants coming in every single week, 300,000 we have this

01:18:40.100 year coming in.

01:18:41.040 So we have a housing crisis.

01:18:42.800 New houses need to be built.

01:18:44.320 Where are you going to put those people?

01:18:45.960 Right.

01:18:46.280 Everything is completely full.

01:18:48.060 So they need new land.

01:18:49.700 That's one thing that they now want the farmers gone for.

01:18:52.660 Obviously, they're not saying that, but it is the truth.

01:18:55.260 And the second thing I think is that this is a general tendency that you see all throughout

01:19:00.040 the Western world.

01:19:00.840 There's an attack on farmers, I think, because farmers pose a threat to the globalist institutions

01:19:06.800 that want to push something like the Great Reset.

01:19:10.200 If you control the food supply, you control the people.

01:19:13.600 And farmers obviously stand in the way of that.

01:19:16.180 They are a very independent group that function self-sufficiently besides the government.

01:19:22.280 And you can't have that if you are trying to control people and their food supply.

01:19:26.100 So there is a very sinister agenda, once again, hiding behind this.

01:19:31.400 And the result is that we now have a government that thinks that once they say it, you are

01:19:37.800 just going to have to give up your property.

01:19:40.140 These are your rights that are being taken away.

01:19:42.860 In this case, the farmers' rights under the pretext of, again, a crisis that they can just

01:19:48.600 create out of thin air.

01:19:49.440 The farmer that we spoke to said that the farmers who are being targeted, some 3,000 of them,

01:19:56.440 are being offered 120% the value of their land.

01:20:00.680 And I don't know how they figure out the value, how they, you know, I'm going to guess that

01:20:04.480 they're getting lowballed on that assessment.

01:20:06.740 But how do they expect the farmers to live on an ongoing basis?

01:20:10.060 You get a one-time payout.

01:20:11.320 And then how do you continue paying your bills unless that's a massive number, like winning

01:20:16.580 the lottery, that you can just retire on from now to the, you know, it could be decades that

01:20:21.660 you're still around and alive and need to support yourself and your family.

01:20:24.740 So how do they expect the farmers to live on?

01:20:28.100 They don't give a rat's ass.

01:20:29.800 Excuse my French.

01:20:30.960 But really, our government doesn't care about the interest of its own people.

01:20:35.880 It caters to a different agenda.

01:20:37.640 It caters to the European Union.

01:20:39.220 It caters to, obviously, in this case, not democratically unelected people.

01:20:46.340 The people who are pushing this in those institutions, in the European Union, are people that nobody

01:20:50.680 ever voted for.

01:20:52.060 So whatever happens to those farmers is none of our government's concern, clearly.

01:20:56.000 Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing this.

01:20:57.720 They would be listening to the farmers, their pleas, and also to people in general who have

01:21:03.340 stood up against this and all of the protests and the international outrage that it has caused.

01:21:07.540 You know, clearly, this government does not play by the rules.

01:21:12.600 They don't care about your rights.

01:21:14.180 They don't care about you.

01:21:15.220 They don't care if you starve.

01:21:17.040 I almost feel like that is the goal, if you see what they are doing in a time where there's

01:21:21.960 already a lot of issues with the food supply, with the supply chain in general.

01:21:27.400 Why on earth would you start attacking farmers in this time?

01:21:32.300 Right, right.

01:21:33.860 And literally, I mean, it's getting close to attacking.

01:21:37.980 The farmers got out there and protested.

01:21:40.600 You know what it takes to make a farmer go out and protest?

01:21:43.620 For the most part, they want nothing to do with this kind of public display.

01:21:46.680 You know, they tend to be more private people.

01:21:48.480 They farm their land.

01:21:49.860 They are in touch with nature and God in a way that a lot of people aren't.

01:21:54.000 But they're upset and they're out there and the protests are being disbanded.

01:21:57.900 They're not allowed.

01:21:58.720 Right.

01:21:58.880 They've got to move on.

01:21:59.660 They can't have their say.

01:22:01.420 I don't know.

01:22:02.020 It just kind of reminds me of when they crack down on the truckers in Canada.

01:22:05.020 It's like when you see truckers come out, look at this and try to make a point or you

01:22:10.380 see farmers come out and try to make a point.

01:22:11.720 Can't you can't they have their moment?

01:22:13.100 Like, let them say have their say their piece, Eva.

01:22:17.540 Yeah, well, no, even in the in the summer, they even shot at them and they shot at a 16 year

01:22:22.620 old boy that was there at the protest, actually driving away from the protest scene.

01:22:27.500 So, you know, the whole concept, again, our government does not respect fundamental rights,

01:22:34.400 does not respect property rights.

01:22:36.680 They don't care about these farmers whatsoever.

01:22:39.560 They just want the land.

01:22:40.840 So none of the rules that used to be in place are valid anymore.

01:22:45.860 Our government just does what it wants.

01:22:48.060 And so this this this this is not liberal democracy.

01:22:51.560 You know, they can say that.

01:22:53.180 But if you're only allowed to protest when the government says it's all right, then you

01:22:58.200 obviously don't have a right to protest.

01:22:59.840 And that's exactly what's going on here.

01:23:01.780 You know, you would expect this maybe in in China or in other far ends of the world, but

01:23:06.600 not in in Western liberal democracy.

01:23:09.060 But then again, I don't think that we can we can say that we have that anymore when this

01:23:13.160 is our reality.

01:23:14.740 Dominique, one of the reasons why we care so much about it, I mean, to be honest, is we

01:23:18.260 worry whether the Netherlands is the canary in the coal mine.

01:23:21.520 You know, it's like we worry this could happen in the United States.

01:23:23.800 We worry this could happen in the UK.

01:23:25.480 Like, is this just the first to go?

01:23:27.340 Because, you know, I mentioned there's nothing wrong with with Prince Harry.

01:23:31.120 I'm sorry, Prince William drawing attention to climate change.

01:23:33.820 That's that's a nonpartisan issue.

01:23:35.920 You know, yeah.

01:23:36.360 OK, we see climate change.

01:23:37.540 Very reasonable.

01:23:38.240 People are saying it's happening and there's steps we can all take that are reasonable.

01:23:41.680 Makes sense, you know, to try to address it.

01:23:44.320 And then there are the extremists who are like no more cows.

01:23:47.380 But everybody's a vegan.

01:23:49.520 Get rid of your SUV SUVs.

01:23:51.140 And like the California law that just said we can't have gas cars anymore.

01:23:55.760 We're going to all be driving electric vehicles in 13 states, follow California.

01:23:58.980 And I'm in one of them.

01:23:59.720 So I got to kiss my gas guzzling car goodbye, which I really love within the next few years.

01:24:05.260 But anyway, we worry this is the canary in the coal mine.

01:24:07.540 And I do wonder whether this is a preview of what's coming to to your country and our country.

01:24:13.460 But, you know, I'm more Western countries.

01:24:15.320 I mean, of course.

01:24:17.900 And I think what's important to say is that the situation that's going on in the Netherlands, you know, with the farmers that are fighting 3,000 of their farms being torn away from them by the Dutch government.

01:24:29.360 This is a precursor of what is to come, because it seems that these climate obsessives are very, very focused on our food supply at a time when our food supply is extremely insecure globally.

01:24:44.300 So why they'd be doing this now, which will be sure to make food price inflation worse, 100% is extremely peculiar.

01:24:53.840 But you mentioned Prince William.

01:24:55.760 My problem with Prince William and his climate virtue signaling is that these people that do seem soft and nice, you know, they're just concerned about the planet.

01:25:03.960 They seem to be aligning themselves with people that do believe in ripping 3,000 farms away from honest working people.

01:25:12.220 And that is the problem.

01:25:14.380 Climate change is being used, I believe, as a mirage to tear people's rights away.

01:25:20.340 And it's wrong.

01:25:21.500 They want to replace rolling hills, farms with, you know, wind turbines and solar panels.

01:25:28.680 They want to create some sort of dystopian hell.

01:25:31.720 And people have every right to speak out about it.

01:25:35.020 And I think that unless people start speaking out about this, it's going to be too late.

01:25:39.760 So the iron fist of tyranny is coming down hard and it's coming down fast and it's being done in the name of climate change.

01:25:47.320 I think we are repeatedly using crises to be able to cover up for a real agenda, which is control.

01:25:54.160 And like you said, every normal person, I think, can acknowledge that I think that the climate has changed as a result of human behavior.

01:26:03.060 I do not subscribe to the idea for one second that we're in some sort of crisis that means we have to tear land and livelihood away from people.

01:26:12.960 I think that very idea is dangerous. And I think organizations such as the European Union, which, thank God, the UK left, are perpetuating this dangerous idea and these dangerous authoritarian policies.

01:26:27.180 And they need to be stopped.

01:26:29.380 You know, I mentioned to my audience last week or earlier this week that one of the great things about about Holland is you go over there.

01:26:36.660 It is a it is a country that's underwater. Amsterdam is underwater. It's below sea level.

01:26:41.460 And Michael Schellenberger has done a lot of work on this thing. It's not great.

01:26:44.700 You know, we don't especially if you have oceanfront property, which I don't.

01:26:47.400 But if you do, you don't really want seawater to rise two feet.

01:26:51.200 We understand this is bad and, you know, this could cause a lot of life loss and food loss and so on.

01:26:55.780 However, he's been saying there is a modern day example of how we can make that work, even in the worst case scenario, the Greta Thunberg extremist example.

01:27:08.320 And all we need to do is look at the Dutch to see how they've done it.

01:27:11.620 The engineers over there have figured out a way to live, notwithstanding the fact that they are underwater.

01:27:16.740 Right. Yeah, there's this really fun saying. I don't know if you know it.

01:27:21.180 It goes, God created the Dutch and the Dutch created the Netherlands because we didn't just build amazing dikes to protect us from, well, being flooded because we are below sea level in most places in the country.

01:27:34.340 But we also created land from the sea.

01:27:37.380 So, yes, that's one of the things that we should be very proud of here in the Netherlands and our Dutch heritage.

01:27:42.360 And I do agree with you. There are obviously technological answers to all of these questions.

01:27:47.540 Same thing goes with the farmers. There are technological answers to lowering nitrogen emissions if you think that nitrogen emissions are a problem to begin with.

01:27:56.720 But the thing is, is that the answer with our elites never lies in those things.

01:28:02.420 They never allow those solutions to be presented.

01:28:06.180 Same thing with the farmers now.

01:28:07.520 The solution always lays in you giving up your rights, not them, but you.

01:28:14.440 So that is what happens every single time.

01:28:17.300 And the only difference I would say with tyranny in the past and tyranny now is that now they use pretty words to hide it and people fall for it.

01:28:26.940 So like Dominique just said, you know, climate change is being used as a vehicle to take people's right away.

01:28:32.620 We've seen the same thing with COVID.

01:28:34.040 We will see the same thing maybe with things like transhumanism in the future.

01:28:38.420 The moment that Western leaders create or talk about a crisis and say to people the moral thing to do is X, Y, Z, which always, by the way, is give up your rights, then people will do it.

01:28:52.340 And they've seen that they were very successful in that in the past two to three years.

01:28:57.520 You're so right.

01:28:58.120 And I know the farmers in the in the Netherlands are saying, what about aviation?

01:29:01.880 Why? Why aren't we talking about emissions?

01:29:04.580 Why is there no crackdown on them?

01:29:06.000 Why do we all have to give up our livelihoods?

01:29:07.580 But they don't.

01:29:08.520 It's just one example.

01:29:09.620 All right.

01:29:09.920 Let me stand you by.

01:29:10.620 We'll take a quick break.

01:29:11.720 Really enjoying the discussion.

01:29:12.720 Dominique and Ava, stay with us two minutes away for more with them.

01:29:15.880 I want to talk about activists, continue the discussion about activists because there was an incident.

01:29:24.140 It just made news today in which hold on.

01:29:27.020 I'm trying to pull it up.

01:29:27.800 It was a pro-life group that was meeting in like their annual banquet, that kind of thing.

01:29:34.000 And they help women who have unplanned pregnancies deal with them and find a way for child care and all that, all this stuff.

01:29:42.000 Well, apparently this is upsetting to the pro-choice advocates who targeted them, who who got into the event stealthily and in the middle of this event at which they are trying to discuss and promote how do we take care of women with unplanned pregnancies who choose to have their babies, which any sane person should be able to find a way to support.

01:30:05.180 This is what the pro-choice advocates did.

01:30:08.920 Watch.

01:30:21.180 You don't care about pregnant people.

01:30:25.500 It's perfect.

01:30:25.960 Even at the end, it's not pregnant women.

01:30:27.800 The activists want you to know it's pregnant people.

01:30:29.800 It's not.

01:30:30.220 It's just whatever.

01:30:31.500 OK, so this goes on and on.

01:30:34.200 Right.

01:30:34.420 Like the extremists trying to target.

01:30:36.320 It's not even like I can see if you show up at like an anti-choice event or like a pro-life march where you're really trying to change rights for women in different fight.

01:30:47.360 Great.

01:30:47.720 Do it.

01:30:48.540 These people are trying to help women who find themselves in the position and actually just choose to have the baby.

01:30:53.980 That cannot be celebrated, has to be demonized and disrupted.

01:30:57.540 What do you make of it, Dominique?

01:30:58.360 Well, I think activists, if you can call them that, feel threatened.

01:31:03.640 And I find it ironic that these people are called pro-choice because really it's just the choice that I agree with.

01:31:12.680 And if you don't agree with that choice, which is to, you know, abort your child, then you're demonized and painted as some kind of monster.

01:31:21.340 The top and bottom of it is these people aren't necessarily trying to change anyone's life choices, but they're just trying to let women know that it's OK.

01:31:32.700 You know, you may not be ready for a baby.

01:31:34.540 You may not feel as though you're in a space to be able to have a baby, but I'm here to tell you that you don't have to kill your child.

01:31:40.940 You can have it and we can help you.

01:31:43.500 You know, anyone with half a brain cell can understand that that is a good thing.

01:31:48.440 Having a child is a good thing.

01:31:49.800 Keeping a child is a good thing.

01:31:51.020 And having support for that child is a good thing.

01:31:53.380 And I think these sorts of people generally just feel threatened and maybe a bit guilty about their own life choices.

01:32:00.940 And that's why they project them and their anger and their fear onto other people.

01:32:05.260 That's all that's all that I get from that.

01:32:08.240 It was called the Capitol Hill Pregnancy Center and it was their annual banquet.

01:32:12.900 But so the the pregnancy center in the same way we've seen now these pro-life family centers that help women get targeted, get firebombed over the past year.

01:32:24.360 Our attorney general doesn't want anything to do with it.

01:32:27.040 He's not going after most of these people.

01:32:29.340 It's just really distressing to me to see.

01:32:31.800 I understand if you want to go march against the pro-life march, you want to have your own big pro-choice march, which they do.

01:32:40.540 I get all that, but there is no reason to demonize or disrupt the people who are trying to help women who do find themselves pregnant and choose to have the baby.

01:32:49.600 It's absurd.

01:32:51.180 OK, let's switch to politics in the minute that we have left.

01:32:54.020 A couple of minutes down in Georgia.

01:32:55.620 We are going to have a runoff in the Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock case.

01:33:00.160 And I predicted going into this that if Senate control hung in the balance, which it doesn't.

01:33:05.900 But if it did, that we would see a line so long, it would look like the New York City Rockettes of women coming forward to say Herschel Walker, Herschel Walker.

01:33:13.620 He abused me.

01:33:14.700 He impregnated me.

01:33:15.780 He treated me badly.

01:33:16.980 Whatever.

01:33:17.400 Right.

01:33:17.580 They they are dying to take Herschel Walker down.

01:33:19.640 And his seat does matter, even though the Democrats already are going to control the Senate.

01:33:25.280 Sure enough, as if on cue, the Daily Beast released releases a new article, five new women coming forward with bad claims about Herschel Walker.

01:33:32.480 And they're bad.

01:33:33.380 They're bad.

01:33:33.880 They're not recent, but they're bad about how he threatened them.

01:33:37.020 He hurt them.

01:33:38.340 He took out a gun and, you know, wielded it in front of one.

01:33:41.800 And on it goes.

01:33:43.960 What nobody is talking about is the fact that yesterday Fox News broke a story about his opponent, Raphael Warnock, and his support of celebration of embrace of back in 1995 when he was a young pastor at his church.

01:33:59.360 Louis Farrakhan, Louis Farrakhan, who is speaking of anti-Semites, a rabid anti-Semite who can't stand Jewish people.

01:34:08.880 Who's referred to them as termites.

01:34:10.840 We could go down the list of his anti-Semitic comments.

01:34:14.060 So why is that OK?

01:34:16.880 And do you think any any voters down in Georgia?

01:34:20.180 You guys know what politics looks like, especially when the stakes are this high.

01:34:25.500 Do you think anybody other than Fox News is going to report this, Ava?

01:34:30.560 I'm sorry, I have to say that I don't know exactly who this person is, but what I can tell from what you're telling me is that there's bias always.

01:34:37.760 You know, when it comes to sexual violence or what what even constitutes, I guess, a sexual transgression, depending on who the perpetrator is and what political field they're in.

01:34:48.000 So, I mean, you know, that's that's something that I think is almost universal in the Western world.

01:34:52.800 If it's someone on the right that is is accused of having done something transgressive, then it will be it will be in the media every day.

01:35:00.980 If it is someone on the left, then they're going to be silent.

01:35:03.320 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's 100 percent what's going to happen.

01:35:07.440 And I mean, listen, I guess it was 1995, but his comments were really well known.

01:35:12.220 They'd already actually I think they'd been made within the past year.

01:35:14.560 Dominique Farrakhan's comments about Jewish people and Warnock embraced him and had the church and celebrated him in a way that this would be all over the media.

01:35:24.060 If Warnock had an R after his name instead of a D.

01:35:28.740 Oh, completely. I think when it comes to those on the left and those that dabble in that sort of, you know, black supremacist identitarianism,

01:35:40.060 I think for the mainstream media and for the left, those are the sorts of views that are acceptable.

01:35:46.300 They're palatable because they're wrapped up in this idea of perpetual black victimhood.

01:35:51.940 But when it comes to someone like Herschel Walker, you know, those allegations, those claims may indeed be true.

01:35:58.780 But I think what you're trying to get out here is fairness and proportionality.

01:36:03.000 Why is it that one person can support someone that may or may not be reprehensible, but the other side gets a free pass?

01:36:12.260 And it's all about character assassination for them, especially when it comes to any sort of Republican.

01:36:19.480 So I suppose we'll just have to see.

01:36:21.480 But this story just keeps on being told again and again in our country, in my country and yours, unfortunately.

01:36:28.000 Now, speaking of politicians who have sketchy histories, Justin Trudeau, I think, Ava, you were tweeting about this.

01:36:35.300 Justin Trudeau is now doing some revisionist history, trying to claim he never attacked people who don't want to get the covid vaccine by calling them names.

01:36:44.740 So we you did a little truth bomb on him saying, you know, we've got the receipts.

01:36:49.040 Here is the claim.

01:36:50.160 And then butted to what he said.

01:36:51.940 We did a voiceover because the the original insults are in French.

01:36:55.440 Watch.

01:36:56.000 A number of people have testified in this inquiry, referencing your widely published comments and calling the unvaccinated racists and misogynists.

01:37:07.280 And we have heard testimony in this inquiry about how some of your officials wanted to label protesters as terrorists.

01:37:14.800 Would you agree with me that one of the most important roles of a prime minister is to unite Canadians and not divide them by engaging in name calling?

01:37:22.080 I did not call people who are unvaccinated names, but there are also some people who are strongly opposed to vaccinations that are extremists who don't believe in science, who are often misogynistic and often racist, too.

01:37:41.640 That's amazing. That's amazing.

01:37:42.640 That's amazing. That's amazing, Ava.

01:37:44.700 I mean, I'm just I was so baffled by the fact that this man has the audacity to just sit there knowing full well that there's literal footage of him saying these things.

01:37:57.600 And then still under oath, say, no, no, no, I didn't.

01:38:01.760 I didn't say those things about the unvaccinated.

01:38:04.400 It's like, are you serious?

01:38:06.620 But, you know, like it's it's it's funny.

01:38:08.660 We're laughing about it.

01:38:09.600 But it's it's it's a horrible thing that these people feel like they're so infallible that they can just lie on their oath, you know, even though we all have seen the footage, we all know we all have the receipts.

01:38:20.780 So it shows you something about their mindset.

01:38:23.060 It shows you that they think that they're infallible because they are never truly held accountable for the things that they do, because Trudeau did much worse than just called not that they don't name.

01:38:32.540 It's not that they don't misstep.

01:38:33.840 It's that they don't get held to account for it.

01:38:35.640 All right.

01:38:35.820 Got to go up against the break.

01:38:36.980 Dominique Ava, such a pleasure.

01:38:38.460 Thank you so much.

01:38:39.380 I hope you come back and we will be back next week.

01:38:42.840 Have a great, great weekend.

01:38:44.860 And I have got some fun things planned that I'm going to tell you about on Monday.

01:38:47.600 I think you're going to get a kick out of it.

01:38:49.100 Have a great one.

01:38:52.000 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - December 02, 2022

Harry and Meghan Target Kate, and Ye's Meltdown, with Dan Wootton, Dominique Samuels and Eva Vlaardingerbroek ｜ Ep. 446

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