The Megyn Kelly Show - April 30, 2026


Hegseth Battles Dems on Capitol Hill, Showdown at SCOTUS, Artemis II Crew at WH： AM Update 4⧸30


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Supreme Court weighing whether to end temporary protected status for hundreds of thousands of migrants. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth in a fiery hearing offering lawmakers their first opportunity to publicly question the secretary on the ongoing war with Iran. And a White House welcome for the Artemis II crew after their successful mission around the moon. All that and more coming up in a moment on your AM Update.

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00:00:25.040 It's Thursday, April 30th, 2026, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:29.220 Why would Congress permit review of the procedural aspect when really what everybody cares about much more is the substance?
00:00:36.920 The Supreme Court weighing whether the Trump administration can end temporary protected status for hundreds of thousands of migrants.
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00:00:48.400 So we know where any nuclear material might be.
00:00:51.140 time. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth in a fiery hill hearing offering lawmakers their first
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00:02:25.680 yesterday considering whether the Trump administration properly revoked temporary
00:02:30.480 protected status of Syrian and Haitian immigrants. Temporary protected status, or TPS, grants certain
00:02:37.220 foreign nationals the legal right to live and work in the U.S., avoiding deportation if their
00:02:42.800 home country faces war, natural disaster, or extreme circumstances. TPS issued for set periods
00:02:49.580 but can be renewed as it reaches expiration. If the government does not announce whether it will
00:02:54.840 extend or end a designation at least 60 days before it expires, the status is automatically
00:03:00.600 extended for an additional six months. Yesterday's arguments centering on the status of immigrants
00:03:05.940 from two countries, Syria and Haiti. Syrians originally granted TPS in 2012 under then-DHS
00:03:12.740 Secretary Janet Napolitano due to a, quote, brutal crackdown waged by dictator Bashar al-Assad.
00:03:19.700 The status continually renewed, providing about 6,000 Syrians with legal status in the U.S.
00:03:25.860 Haiti granted TPS in 2010 following a devastating earthquake that killed hundreds of thousands of
00:03:31.440 people and caused major damage throughout the country. That status, too, renewed regularly
00:03:36.880 in the years since. Approximately 350,000 Haitians in the U.S. are here under TPS.
00:03:44.520 Last year, former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem moving to end temporary protected status for
00:03:50.180 Haiti and Syria, arguing conditions in each country had improved and that continuing the
00:03:55.320 program was no longer in the national interest. Haitian nationals then filing suit in Washington,
00:04:00.860 D.C., while a group of Syrians challenged the move in New York. In both cases, federal judges
00:04:06.600 blocked the Trump administration from ending the protections, finding the decisions likely
00:04:11.360 violated federal administrative law. With appeals courts citing against the administration,
00:04:16.880 Trump's DOJ taking both cases to the Supreme Court. In yesterday's oral arguments, Solicitor
00:04:22.380 General John Sauer arguing for the government, Attorney Jeff Pippoly arguing for the Haitians,
00:04:27.860 and Alianti, a rule in Otham, arguing for the Syrians.
00:04:32.400 Sauer arguing the law shields the DHS secretary's TPS decisions from court review entirely,
00:04:38.260 including the steps leading up to them.
00:04:40.040 The provision thus bars judicial review of both the secretary's ultimate decision
00:04:44.620 whether to designate, extend, or terminate,
00:04:46.940 and of each antecedent step along the way to that determination.
00:04:51.180 Both challengers agreeing that federal law prevents courts
00:04:54.240 from second-guessing the merits of a TPS decision,
00:04:56.640 but they argue the administration failed to follow the required consultation process
00:05:01.060 before trying to end the program.
00:05:03.460 Conservative Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Amy Coney Barrett pressing that position.
00:05:09.260 Would you be kind enough to say what else is reviewable despite the jurisdiction stripping provision?
00:05:19.260 Because it seems pretty broad.
00:05:20.900 It says there is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General.
00:05:25.600 We have to say, look, determination is a very broad word.
00:05:30.760 It's used all the time in many different statutory provisions.
00:05:35.840 It's used all the time by this court.
00:05:38.000 If we apply ordinary meaning of that term here, I really don't understand how you can prevail.
00:05:45.400 I mean, if it's just kind of a box-checking exercise, I mean, why would Congress permit review of the procedural aspect
00:05:50.880 when really what everybody cares about much more is the substance?
00:05:55.180 The lawyer for the Haitians also arguing race was a driving factor in ending TPS for the country.
00:06:00.320 Liberal Justice Elena Kagan questioning how that component fits into this case.
00:06:04.740 You can argue that there was just like a across the board, we have to get rid of all these TPS and the statutory requirements weren't followed and all of that.
00:06:15.500 But the injection of this racial component into it, I guess I don't quite see how that operates when all of these programs went.
00:06:26.060 The lawyer pointing to statements from President Trump and former Secretary Noem and contrasting them with policies favoring white migrants, arguing that pattern shows the decision was driven by racial bias.
00:06:37.700 A decision is expected by early July. 0.97
00:06:39.900 We spoke with the Center for Immigration Studies fellow in law and policy, Andrew Arthur, who says this is a clear-cut case and the government is right.
00:06:49.300 What this comes down to is this is a temporary protection. The word temporary appears 42 different times in the statute. And yet, immigrants advocates have managed to turn it into a quasi-permanent form of protection by challenging every determination that the Trump administration has made attempting to end temporary protected status regardless of the country. 0.97
00:07:17.180 You know, this is a pretty straightforward statute. Congress plainly intended that there
00:07:23.420 wouldn't be any judicial review. And unfortunately, it's reflective of the highly politicized times
00:07:29.580 in which we live. The district court judges think that they have the ability, let alone the
00:07:36.060 obligation to interpose themselves in political decisions that Congress has placed outside of
00:07:42.760 their jurisdiction. As for the Haitian plaintiff's claims that race factored into the decision,
00:07:47.860 Arthur points out a flaw in that argument. They're going back to statements that President
00:07:52.440 Trump has made in the past, denigrating statements about Haiti generally, in order to say that
00:07:59.360 improper racial animus has weighed into this decision. But the argument basically goes as
00:08:05.580 follows. One, the president has said that, you know, Haiti is a bad place. TPS is based upon
00:08:12.000 the idea that Haiti is temporarily a bad place. And therefore, it almost defeats their argument
00:08:19.640 to bring up the fact that the president has talked about issues in Haiti. So, you know,
00:08:26.980 it may almost be too cute by half to make the argument. But in the public sphere,
00:08:32.440 it's probably the most compelling argument that they could make. I just don't think it's a valid
00:08:37.040 one. On The Bigger Picture, Arthur predicts the justices will side with the Trump administration,
00:08:41.520 using this case to send a broader message to the lower courts about their role.
00:08:46.180 One of the issues that the Roberts court has contended with as long as Donald Trump has been
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00:09:04.960 the inferior courts, the district and the circuit courts, that when Congress says there is no
00:09:11.240 review or that certain things aren't reviewable or aren't reviewable at the district court level,
00:09:17.300 that Congress means what it says so that the Supreme Court doesn't have to continually return
00:09:23.560 to the issue to tell inferior courts that they don't have jurisdiction or that they've gone too
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00:11:21.840 Secretary of War, Pete Heigse, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisin
00:11:26.640 Cain and Acting Pentagon Comptroller Jules Hurst appearing in front of the House Armed
00:11:31.300 Services Committee yesterday on the Pentagon's 2027 budget request. The hearing presenting the
00:11:36.900 first opportunity for lawmakers to publicly question the officials since the beginning
00:11:41.060 of Operation Epic Fury in Iran. Hurst testifying that the estimated cost of the war with Iran so
00:11:46.940 far is $25 billion, with most expenditures covering munitions, maintenance, and equipment
00:11:53.280 replacements. The Pentagon requesting a budget of $1.45 trillion for the fiscal year 2027,
00:12:01.000 the largest ever request from the department. In his opening statement, Chairman Mike Rogers,
00:12:06.180 Republican from Alabama, warning America is not keeping pace with its adversaries.
00:12:11.040 All of our adversaries are spending more of their GDP on defense than we are. Meanwhile,
00:12:17.160 our defense spending as a percentage of GDP has been steadily falling since World War II.
00:12:23.280 Our defense industrial base, long the envy of the world, has atrophied significantly.
00:12:29.320 We're no longer capable of manufacturing for our warfighters at scale or speed.
00:12:35.240 Just look at shipbuilding.
00:12:37.180 China builds 47 percent of the world's ships.
00:12:41.440 The U.S. builds one-tenth of one percent.
00:12:45.340 Our global munition stockpiles are low, and we lack the capacity to rapidly restock magazine depth.
00:12:52.380 Many of our defense supply chains are reliant on the very adversaries we seek to deter.
00:12:57.460 Much of the hearing focusing on U.S. military action against Iran.
00:13:01.160 Democrats and Secretary Hegseth clashing often on the financial toll, domestic impact, and end goals of the mission.
00:13:07.980 Secretary Hegseth blasting critics in Congress.
00:13:11.020 President Trump, unlike other presidents, has had the courage to ensure Iran never gets a nuclear weapon, and he's ironclad in that.
00:13:19.460 We have the best negotiator in the world driving that deal.
00:13:23.080 The biggest challenge, the biggest adversary we face at this point are the reckless, feckless, and defeatist words of congressional Democrats and some Republicans.
00:13:35.660 Two months in, I remind you, two months in to a conflict.
00:13:40.360 Lest I remind you, and my generation understands, how long we were in Iraq, how long we were in Afghanistan, how long we were in Vietnam.
00:13:48.320 Two months in, on an existential fight for the safety of the American people, Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb.
00:13:55.940 We are proud of this undertaking.
00:13:58.180 Ranking member of the committee, Adam Smith, Democrat from Washington, and the secretary in a heated exchange.
00:14:04.740 You have to stare down this kind of enemy who's hellbent on getting a nuclear weapon and get them to a point where they're at the table giving it up in a way that they never have it.
00:14:14.160 so they haven't broken yet okay we haven't gotten there yet for all of the well their nuclear
00:14:19.360 facilities have been obliterated underground they're buried and watching them 24 7 so we
00:14:25.180 know where any nuclear material reclaiming my time we're watching a second here we had to start this
00:14:31.640 war you just said 60 days ago because the nuclear weapon was an imminent threat now you're saying
00:14:39.720 that it was completely obliterated. They had not given up their nuclear ambitions and they had a
00:14:44.540 conventional shield of thousands. So Operation Midnight Hammer accomplished nothing of substance.
00:14:49.840 It left us at exactly the same place we were before. So much so. Their facilities were bombed
00:14:55.520 and obliterated. Their ambitions continued. Democrat Congressman John Garamendi of California
00:15:02.200 accusing the secretary of lying about the war. Secretary Heseth, you have been lying to the
00:15:07.820 American public about this war from day one, and so has the president. You have misled the public
00:15:14.480 about why we are at war. You've misled the public about the progress of the war. The strategy has
00:15:21.880 been an astounding incompetence. The president has got himself in America stuck in the quagmire
00:15:28.520 of another war in the Middle East. When I said reckless, feckless, and defeatist of congressional
00:15:33.580 Democrats at the beginning. That came after watching you say the same thing on CNN this
00:15:38.420 morning, a quagmire. Don't say I support the troops on one hand and then a two-month mission
00:15:43.420 is a quagmire. That's a false equivalence. Who are you cheering for here? Who are you pulling for?
00:15:48.880 I know the American people support that mission despite your loose talk and words like quagmire.
00:15:56.560 Polling consistently shows declining support for the war. According to a survey from Reuters
00:16:01.500 released Tuesday, just 34% of Americans approve of the U.S. conflict with Iran, down from 38%
00:16:08.460 in mid-March. The hearing comes hours after President Trump posted an AI image to Truth
00:16:14.820 Social featuring a version of himself wearing sunglasses, carrying a machine gun, walking away
00:16:20.020 from explosions in the background. Text on the image reading, quote, no more Mr. Nice Guy. Mr.
00:16:25.640 Trump writing, quote, Iran can't get their act together. They don't know how to sign a non-nuclear
00:16:30.300 deal. They better get smart soon. On Sunday, Axios reporting the Iranians presenting the U.S. with a 0.51
00:16:36.100 new plan to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and postpone nuclear talks until a later date.
00:16:41.540 Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday rejecting the idea on its face, telling Fox News Iran's
00:16:47.020 nuclear program is, quote, the reason why we're in this in the first place. That fundamental issue
00:16:51.480 still has to be confronted. That still remains the core issue here. From the Oval Office yesterday,
00:16:56.760 President Trump saying talks are continuing via phone.
00:17:00.360 They make a call or I have my people make a call and you know the answer. I always like face to face.
00:17:08.240 You know, I consider it better. But when you have to fly 18 hours every time you want to have a
00:17:13.040 meeting and you know what the meeting is all about and you know they're going to give you a piece of
00:17:19.060 paper that you don't like before you even leave. It's ridiculous. They've come a long way. The 0.96
00:17:24.700 question is whether or not they're going to go far enough. So at this moment, there will never
00:17:29.760 be a deal unless they agree that there will be no nuclear weapons. President Trump welcoming the
00:17:37.520 Artemis II crew to the White House yesterday following their successful mission around the
00:17:41.580 moon and back, landing safely in the Pacific Ocean earlier this month. President Trump congratulating
00:17:46.860 astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and Jeremy Hansen. It takes people like
00:17:52.680 this to make our country great and again i've never seen anything everybody i knew they wanted
00:17:59.200 to see the launch and they especially wanted to see a successful landing and we're very proud of
00:18:05.200 these people they have unbelievable courage unbelievable a lot of other things too by the
00:18:10.180 way to get in there you have to be very smart you have to do a lot of things physically good
00:18:14.640 so i would have had no trouble making it and physically very very good uh maybe a little bit
00:18:20.400 of a problem. I don't know, I'm sure. We'll have to try it sometime. Is a president allowed to go
00:18:25.020 up in one of these missions? We can get working on that. We have no problem, right? We'll launch
00:18:29.740 more rockets. We'll have to try it. Congratulations very much. On a separate but possibly related
00:18:36.780 point, one reporter asking about a timeline on the release of more information about UFOs.
00:18:42.700 Well, I think we're going to be releasing as much as we can in the near future. For some reason,
00:18:49.280 and i guess it's just a reason it's been in the minds of people for a long time
00:18:54.340 and that is such they want to find out about the ufos and uh anything having to do with ufo
00:19:01.160 or related material and we're going to be releasing a lot of things from that we have
00:19:05.700 and i think something's going to be very interesting to people i've i've interviewed
00:19:09.840 people my first term primarily but i interviewed some pilots uh very solid people and they said
00:19:17.340 They saw things that you wouldn't believe, so you're going to be reading about it.
00:19:21.500 Disclosure day incoming.
00:19:25.800 That'll do it for your AM update.
00:19:27.580 I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party.
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