The Megyn Kelly Show - Hegseth's Media Mic Drop on Iran Strikes, ＂Daddy＂ Trump, and Mamdani's White Guilt Win, with Ruthless Hosts

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:11.960 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.180 We begin today with reaction to a historic press briefing at the Pentagon this morning.

00:00:20.140 Wow, did this one deliver.

00:00:23.000 We haven't seen anything like this in a very long time.

00:00:25.420 Nothing's coming to mind in my history as a reporter.

00:00:28.720 Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Raisin Cain

00:00:34.300 delivering an update on President Trump's strikes on three Iranian nuclear sites over the weekend.

00:00:40.580 And it was fascinating.

00:00:42.920 Secretary Hegseth calling the bombings, quote, a resounding success

00:00:46.740 and said it was the most complex and secretive military operation in history.

00:00:51.920 And I don't know about that, like developing the atom bomb was pretty big.

00:00:55.560 It was complex and it was secretive.

00:00:56.920 But I take his point.

00:00:58.240 It was one of.

00:00:59.140 I think that's probably what he meant to say.

00:01:01.320 He said the bombings directly led to a ceasefire agreement.

00:01:04.380 True.

00:01:05.040 And an end to what the administration is calling the 12-day war between Israel and Iran.

00:01:09.720 And the defense secretary took the media in that room to task because the Pentagon media has been a failure,

00:01:16.820 a total and utter failure in reporting on this administration and in particular this mission for not playing it straight on this.

00:01:27.020 I mean, yes, it's the Trump administration, so they would love praise, but that's not the media's job.

00:01:32.780 But just play it straight.

00:01:35.600 You know, normally there's not an instinct or shouldn't be to shit all over the military heroes after they risk their lives.

00:01:43.580 That's that's really not been our thing since Vietnam.

00:01:46.300 And then we learned those lessons.

00:01:49.160 It is a strain of leftism.

00:01:51.940 They veered dangerously close to doing that when the Iraq war got launched.

00:01:56.580 But for some reason now, because Trump is the commander in chief, I guess it's fine to just not give any credit to the brave pilots who conducted this mission.

00:02:06.120 I mean, truly risked their lives to conduct to conduct this mission.

00:02:10.040 It's just more important to rip on Trump, you see.

00:02:13.520 And Hegseth knows that both as a former member of the military and as defense secretary and a key part of the Trump administration himself.

00:02:20.280 So he went after them for how they've covered Operation Midnight Hammer.

00:02:25.680 That's what they're calling this based on a selective leak from what we know was a preliminary low confidence intelligence assessment.

00:02:36.800 Let me just tell you something.

00:02:37.640 You know, Catherine Herridge, we worked together at Fox News for many years.

00:02:40.520 She was our intel reporter over there.

00:02:42.920 Then she went to CBS and did it for many years.

00:02:45.140 And this is what she said in a post today on preliminary assessments labeled low confidence.

00:02:53.900 In the hierarchy of intel reports, a preliminary assessment with low confidence would not carry much weight.

00:03:01.060 It's an early snapshot that concedes the picture will likely change as more intelligence is developed based on that.

00:03:07.740 So that's normally why the Pentagon would not release such a thing to the public.

00:03:12.200 But some asshole within the Pentagon working for the defense intelligence agency leaked it.

00:03:19.840 And who did this person go to?

00:03:22.200 They went to a reporter by the name of Natasha Bertrand, who is the person who has been the best stenographer for deep state type intel operatives.

00:03:35.580 This is the person who had the scoop on how 51 intelligence agents say the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.

00:03:45.340 She led the reporting on Russia, Russia, Russia gate info.

00:03:50.140 We'll have more on her later.

00:03:51.580 But my point is simply there's a reason that some Trump hater within the Pentagon went to a different Trump hater now working for CNN,

00:04:00.320 who's got a long history of Trump hating that has completely undermined any credibility this young woman hoped to have.

00:04:09.260 She's very young, but she keeps getting awards and Emmys because if you just say terrible things about Trump,

00:04:14.860 especially if you can put an intel source behind them, you'll win awards.

00:04:19.320 In any event, she's the one who got this whole thing started saying that the operation was a failure.

00:04:23.220 It was a fucking failure. Sorry.

00:04:26.220 And so now you it's now at the point where you've got the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the secretary of defense,

00:04:32.300 because the media ran with this, it snowballed going out there to say, just sit down.

00:04:38.600 OK, sit down.

00:04:40.860 And by the way, neither The New York Times nor CNN even noted that this preliminary assessment was of, quote,

00:04:47.360 low confidence in their initial reports on this.

00:04:50.180 We pointed this out in a.m. update. Neither one pointed out that the assessment was of low confidence.

00:04:57.320 Do you think that might be relevant? Could that be relevant?

00:05:00.220 You know, maybe the audience should be told that, you know, just just asking.

00:05:05.420 Here's Hexat this morning.

00:05:06.740 Because you and I mean, specifically you, the press, specifically you, the press corps, because you cheer against Trump so hard.

00:05:18.740 It's like in your DNA and in your blood to cheer against Trump because you want him not to be successful so bad.

00:05:25.240 You have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.

00:05:29.700 You have to hope maybe they weren't effective.

00:05:32.620 Maybe the way the Trump administration's representative isn't true.

00:05:35.480 So let's take half-truths, spun information, leaked information, and then spin it, spin it in every way we can to try to cause doubt

00:05:47.040 and manipulate the mind, the public mind over whether or not our brave pilots were successful.

00:05:54.280 Secretary Hexat then turned the press conference over to Chairman Cain, who revealed the extraordinary skill and true heroism of service members whose stories seldom reach the public.

00:06:10.620 It's so extraordinary to get a play-by-play like this.

00:06:14.340 He began by describing exactly how the military shot down those 14 missiles heading at them.

00:06:21.300 Iran fired them in the wake of our dropping the bombs on Iranian nuclear sites.

00:06:28.600 And this was Iran's retaliation, you'll recall, against American air bases, one went, I think, to Iraq, but in Qatar on Monday.

00:06:38.600 Roughly 44 American soldiers responsible for defending the entire base, to include CENTCOM's forward headquarters in the Middle East.

00:06:49.120 The oldest soldier was a 28-year-old captain.

00:06:53.780 The youngest was a 21-year-old private who'd been in the military for less than two years.

00:07:00.260 You, at that age, are the sole person responsible to defend this base.

00:07:05.980 These awesome humans, along with their Qatari brothers and sisters-in-arms, stood between a salvo of Iranian missiles and the safety of value deed.

00:07:15.860 They are the unsung heroes of the 21st century United States Army.

00:07:22.600 He described what it was like for them to be sitting there and understanding that they had 120 seconds to act to strike down these incoming missiles with our own Patriot missiles, which end them and protect us.

00:07:37.120 And how, you know, these young guys, this one guy, the 21-year-old guy, had been in the armed services for less than two years.

00:07:45.780 Think of it.

00:07:46.740 It's so great when they put that sort of human element onto these reports.

00:07:52.400 The general then explained just how much time and effort went into the bombing.

00:07:56.800 There were three nuclear sites that we bombed, but in particular, the one at Fordow.

00:08:01.300 And it was crazy.

00:08:02.780 That's the one that truly, it was like the Top Gun Maverick operation.

00:08:07.360 If you haven't seen Top Gun Maverick, you've got to download that movie tonight with your family.

00:08:11.300 Because it's all about how there was a nuclear site of a foreign government that we needed to hit, where they were enriching uranium.

00:08:17.040 It was going to be in this very skinny little valley that would be very difficult to get into and fly an F-16 into, or what looked like one of these B-2 bombers.

00:08:28.780 And you're going to have to reach Mach 10, and it was going to be impossible to maneuver, and it could only be done by a couple of planes.

00:08:35.560 They had to get in and get out, and they could get shot down, and one was going to sort of loosen the spigot on the site, and the other was going to drop the big bomb that was going to take it out.

00:08:42.980 I mean, it's like, it's got so many parallels, not perfect, but it's a lot of parallels.

00:08:47.080 So he explained much more about the strike on the nuclear facility at Fordow, that much like in the hunt for Osama bin Laden, where we'd been on this mission.

00:08:59.340 And we learned later that the CIA had been on this mission for years, for years after 9-11, to figure out everything they could about not just bin Laden, but everything related to bin Laden, everyone related to bin Laden, so they could figure out where he was.

00:09:15.740 They've been doing that on Fordow.

00:09:17.920 They knew where it was, but they knew everything.

00:09:21.860 They knew when the Iranians started it.

00:09:24.380 They watched them build it.

00:09:26.400 They had been on a mission for years to know everything that could be known about this place, and then they developed a plan long ago.

00:09:36.320 This has been in the works, just in case, to destroy it.

00:09:39.460 All right, General Cain revealing that one officer spent 15 years on this issue.

00:09:47.780 He said they started building it in 2009, and this guy has basically been in a basement for that entire time, and then they added a second guy to it.

00:09:55.660 So these two guys have spent the last 15 years on nothing other than Fordow.

00:10:00.720 And not only have they been studying everything there is to know about Fordow, but they realized we were going to need a new bomb to destroy Fordow, that we didn't have that in our existing arsenal.

00:10:14.440 And that is how those 30,000-pound bunker-busting bombs were born.

00:10:20.440 In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed on something going on in Iran.

00:10:33.020 For security purposes, I'm not going to share his name.

00:10:36.820 He was shown some photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked like a major construction project in the mountains of Iran.

00:10:44.560 He was tasked to study this facility, work with the intelligence community to understand it, and he was soon joined by an additional teammate.

00:10:54.000 For more than 15 years, this officer and his teammate lived and breathed this single target, Fordow, a critical element of Iran's covert nuclear weapons program.

00:11:06.500 And along the way, they realized we did not have a weapon that could adequately strike and kill this target.

00:11:13.860 So they began a journey to work with industry and other tacticians to develop the GBU-57.

00:11:20.940 They accomplished hundreds of test shots and dropped many full-scale weapons against extremely realistic targets for a single purpose.

00:11:32.200 Kill this target at the time and place of our nation's choosing.

00:11:37.020 And then, on a day in June of 2025, more than 15 years after they started their life's work, the phone rang and the President of the United States ordered the B-2 force that you've supported to go strike and kill this target.

00:11:52.540 Think of it.

00:11:53.540 Think of it.

00:11:54.320 Can you imagine that?

00:11:55.620 Can you imagine?

00:11:55.980 I'd love, I'd love to meet these two guys.

00:11:59.220 I understand perfectly well why we can't.

00:12:02.560 But wouldn't you love to meet these pilots and then these guys, these guys who are, they're like the CIA agent who found bin Laden.

00:12:09.520 They do all the preliminary work.

00:12:11.280 They know this site like the back of their hands.

00:12:13.100 I'm sure they worked every day to figure out exactly what it would take to destroy it.

00:12:18.300 And then once they built that bomb and understood, then got the call from President Trump that we're doing it.

00:12:26.740 Like, your site, Fordo, is now under my target.

00:12:33.420 We're doing it.

00:12:34.820 Then those guys have got to pray.

00:12:37.500 They've got to hope that the military guys who fly the B-2s do it perfectly, that nothing goes wrong, that the Iranians don't detect the flights on the way in.

00:12:47.740 I mean, think of it.

00:12:49.140 It's crazy how much had to go right for these guys, the amount of planning and professionalism.

00:12:53.780 General Cain next describing the stunning precision required to actually hit Fordo where it was most vulnerable, all of which they knew that this was not just like a bunch of guys like, oh, we got to go bomb this very small site.

00:13:08.080 They knew Fordo forward and backward, and they were very prepared to destroy it.

00:13:14.620 You can see these three holes depicted here as the main exhaust shaft with two additional ventilation shafts on either side.

00:13:25.660 The United States decided to strike these two ventilation shafts, as seen here on the main graphic, as the primary point of entry into the mission space.

00:13:35.900 In the days preceding the attack against Fordo, the Iranians attempted to cover the shafts with concrete to try to prevent an attack.

00:13:47.300 The planners had to account for this.

00:13:50.080 They accounted for everything.

00:13:52.180 The cap was forcibly removed by the first weapon, and the main shaft was uncovered.

00:13:58.800 Weapons two, three, four, five were tasked to enter the main shaft, move down into the complex at greater than 1,000 feet per second, and explode in the mission space.

00:14:15.700 Then he talked about there was a weapon six with a flex capability, which sounded a lot like the flex capacitor, and things got really exciting.

00:14:22.460 But, no, it's just incredible.

00:14:25.660 The four-star general showing exactly how these bombs work, debuting stunning footage of a test shot.

00:14:34.260 This isn't the actual bombing of the Iranian facility.

00:14:36.960 It's a test shot the military did of a GBU-57 bomb, just like the one that was used on Iran.

00:14:45.660 You're watching it right now.

00:14:47.040 For the listening audience, it's hard to explain.

00:14:48.720 You should just go watch it 14 minutes after the hour on our MK YouTube feed, but it's incredible, and you've got up-close footage of this thing sort of burrowing.

00:14:59.380 It looks like, to me, it looks like a space shuttle that we would launch upward normally, but we're launching it straight downward, burrowing into the ground, and then it explodes when it gets down there.

00:15:12.280 Yeah, okay.

00:15:13.040 So then there's a human element to every military operation.

00:15:17.180 General Cain knew that, and as I already pointed out, he spoke to some of that.

00:15:21.460 But he went on.

00:15:22.760 These pilots absolutely risked their lives to protect this country.

00:15:26.740 There was a time in which we wouldn't have had to be reminded of this by the Secretary of Defense, by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

00:15:33.920 There was a time in which we would have understood and inherently recognized and paid homage to the emotional strain that this type of mission creates on those who execute it and on their families.

00:15:46.180 We used to be quick to praise the heroes of our military, especially in effectively never-before-attempted missions like this one.

00:15:56.220 And General Cain took that on earlier today, too.

00:15:58.680 Watch.

00:15:58.900 When the crews went to work on Friday, they kissed their loved ones goodbye, not knowing when or if they'd be home.

00:16:07.920 Late on Saturday night, their families became aware of what was happening.

00:16:12.360 And on Sunday, when those jets returned from Whiteman, their families were there, flags flying and tears flowing.

00:16:21.160 I have chills literally talking about this.

00:16:23.820 The jets rejoined into a formation of four airplanes followed by a formation of three and came up overhead Whiteman, proudly in the traffic pattern, pitching out to land right over the base and landing to the incredible cheers of their families who sacrifice and serve right alongside their family members.

00:16:46.240 Like I said, there were a lot of flags and a lot of tears, one commander told me this is a moment in the lives of our families that they will never forget.

00:16:56.920 It's incredible.

00:16:58.040 I have chills just thinking about it.

00:17:01.100 General Cain is an F-16 pilot himself, by the way.

00:17:03.880 All I could think of when he was talking about it was this video that was circulating on X over the weekend.

00:17:09.400 I think this is Blue Angels down in Florida.

00:17:11.640 It's not these guys.

00:17:12.620 But the scene as he described it reminded me of this.

00:17:17.580 And I'll bet you those pilots saw something like this when they flew back home to Missouri.

00:17:24.560 God bless America.

00:17:26.480 And gentlemen, start your thinking.

00:17:32.260 It's Americans on their porch.

00:17:35.680 I think it's the Blue Angels flying overhead in a similar formation.

00:17:42.720 And of course, Thunderstruck playing in the background, which is one of the greatest songs ever made.

00:17:48.580 It's just so it's it's so impressive.

00:17:52.100 It's something to be honored.

00:17:53.640 I really don't care how you feel about the Iranian mission.

00:17:57.760 I mean, the mission to take out the Iranian nuclear sites.

00:18:00.320 As I made clear, I'm in favor of it, but I don't care.

00:18:03.480 You can support our military and the incredible feat they accomplished.

00:18:08.440 No matter how you feel.

00:18:10.280 So this is one of the things that.

00:18:12.880 Pete and General Cain were saying, like, could you just pause for two minutes?

00:18:17.500 Could you give us two days trying to process what happened, trying to get a handle on how it went?

00:18:24.240 General Cain said that that doesn't come from me.

00:18:26.660 You know what exactly we destroyed.

00:18:28.200 He said we don't great great our own homework.

00:18:30.120 But Pete saying just calm down and give us a beat and we will bring you the results just like we're doing this morning.

00:18:38.180 But instead, you need Natasha Bertrand to have a leak from some Trump hater of low confidence, not identified as such, reporting that it was a failure, that nothing was destroyed and that it's only been set back by a month or two.

00:18:56.920 It's not true that now we've had reports from the Israeli intelligence.

00:19:03.020 We've had reports from the IAEA.

00:19:05.600 The IAEA is out there saying the sites have been destroyed.

00:19:08.660 The director of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, said specifically not just the entrance.

00:19:14.860 This is one of the reports like maybe they just got the entrance to the Fordow facility, the exit.

00:19:20.940 He said, no, the centrifuges at Fordow, where they are doing the the enrichment of the uranium, are no longer operational.

00:19:31.460 I mean, what what more do you need to hear?

00:19:33.800 So the press, having been subjected to this appropriate lecture from these two, absolutely remained clueless and got absolutely nothing of what had just been communicated to them and instead thought this would be the moment to whine again to Secretary Hegseth about why he called the pilots boys when one of them was female.

00:19:58.560 Why not acknowledge the female pilots that also participated in this mission?

00:20:03.020 And the early messages that you sent out only congratulated the boys.

00:20:07.460 So something like our boys and bombers.

00:20:10.000 See, this is the kind of thing the press does.

00:20:11.580 Right. Of course, the chairman mentioned a female bomber pilot.

00:20:14.600 That's fantastic.

00:20:15.640 She's fantastic.

00:20:16.560 She's a hero.

00:20:17.220 I want more female bomber pilots.

00:20:18.680 I hope the men and women of our country sign up to do such brave and audacious things.

00:20:22.660 But when you spin it as because I say our boys and bombers is a common phrase, I'll keep saying things like that, whether they're men or women.

00:20:29.600 I'm very proud of that female pilot, just like I'm very proud of those male pilots.

00:20:33.920 And I don't care if it's a male or a female in that cockpit and the American people don't care.

00:20:38.900 But it's the obsession with race and gender in this department that's changed priorities.

00:20:45.200 We don't do that anymore.

00:20:46.080 We don't play your little games.

00:20:47.060 Right on.

00:20:49.500 Well handled like a boss.

00:20:52.880 Secretary Hegseth also lashing out at Fox News's Jennifer Griffin, who on Sunday posted on X about there being a female pilot.

00:21:02.180 It's an expression.

00:21:03.420 Our boys, I guarantee you, I was the only female lawyer in my Chicago law firm when I what kind of a moron would take offense to the generic reference of our boys.

00:21:15.080 We get it.

00:21:16.140 All right.

00:21:16.560 Only the most thin skin sensitive women would be like, oh, and I guarantee you the most thin skin sensitive women don't become B2 bomber pilots.

00:21:26.720 This is an absurdity.

00:21:27.900 But she was one of the ones to quickly call him out for using the term boys in the bombers.

00:21:34.700 And Hegseth and she had an exchange this morning.

00:21:38.400 Do you have certainty that all the highly enriched uranium was inside the Fordow Mountain or some of it because there were satellite photos that showed more than a dozen trucks there two days in advance?

00:21:50.800 Are you certain none of that highly enriched uranium was moved?

00:21:54.360 Of course, we're watching every single aspect.

00:21:56.160 But, Jennifer, you've been about the worst, the one who misrepresents the most intentionally what what the president says.

00:22:05.220 I'm familiar about the ventilations shafts on Saturday night.

00:22:09.480 And, in fact, I was the first to describe the B2 bombers, the refueling the entire mission with great accuracy.

00:22:17.800 So I take issue with that.

00:22:19.440 I appreciate you acknowledging that this is the first operate the most successful mission based on operational security that this department has done since you've been here.

00:22:28.760 I appreciate that.

00:22:29.480 So we're looking at all aspects of intelligence and making sure we have a sense of what was where.

00:22:34.840 I mean, I like Jennifer, but he's not wrong that she's had a definite and detectable bias against Donald Trump.

00:22:40.560 If you look at her reporting, that's just it's obvious.

00:22:44.280 Again, I really like her and I respect what she's been through as a reporter and a woman.

00:22:48.380 But I don't I see why he's angry.

00:22:51.040 And you heard her there defending her reporting here now to react to all of this.

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00:23:56.320 Guys, great to see you.

00:23:58.160 What a banger.

00:23:58.900 First 23 minutes.

00:24:00.000 How's it making you feel?

00:24:00.940 I love it.

00:24:03.580 You know, and what a great press conference.

00:24:05.340 And for those of us who grew up and revere America and love our country, believe in American

00:24:12.460 exceptionalism, believe that America is the greatest force for good that this world has

00:24:17.760 ever known, this feels like we've returned America to the leader of the free world.

00:24:24.900 Yeah.

00:24:25.060 Well, and I love the way Meghan compared it to the hunt for bin Laden.

00:24:29.060 Yeah.

00:24:29.200 Like, you know, there were people at the CIA that were on the bin Laden desk for their

00:24:32.820 entire career focused only on this thing.

00:24:35.280 And to think the United States of America had not just one, but two dudes or ladies.

00:24:40.160 I don't because we don't know.

00:24:41.860 I don't want to pull a hex head here.

00:24:43.300 Guys, but you never know.

00:24:44.240 Yeah.

00:24:44.700 Yeah.

00:24:45.540 Sitting in a basement somewhere studying for I mean, I have niche interests, but 15 years

00:24:50.600 on one facility on the other side of the globe.

00:24:53.360 That's a lot.

00:24:54.080 I think it's it's and it says a lot, right?

00:24:55.700 It's like who could ever question the resolve of the United States of America?

00:24:59.340 Do not screw with America.

00:25:01.020 We will have two dudes in a basement.

00:25:02.740 Study your facility for 15 years to kill you and their heroes.

00:25:07.340 And we will never know their names.

00:25:09.240 You're exactly right, Meghan.

00:25:11.080 But you said something about how you would like to meet them.

00:25:14.580 And I'm quite confident that when they heard that you launched a thousand conversations

00:25:19.920 among them and their buddies about how you said you want to meet them.

00:25:24.680 I would love to meet them even in private, even just to press the flesh and say thank you

00:25:30.220 and just show them that this country loves them and is proud of them, notwithstanding

00:25:34.480 what these moronic reporters would have them believe.

00:25:37.860 The New York Times wants people to feel, you know, on the subject of Jennifer Griffin, not

00:25:42.260 to beat up on her too much, but I'll just give you one example.

00:25:44.780 So right just today, today now she's reporting because, you know, Trump yesterday was like,

00:25:49.620 I'm not sure we need an agreement with Iran.

00:25:51.620 Like, I guess we could put something in writing that we're going to like inspect, but we blew

00:25:57.580 up their their nuclear facilities.

00:25:59.880 And Trump's kind of like and I guess maybe we'll just have to blow up more.

00:26:03.640 I don't feel like it's done.

00:26:05.100 He's like, it's destroyed.

00:26:07.080 So I guess we could put something in writing.

00:26:08.960 He says, I don't care if we have an agreement or not.

00:26:11.060 And then, of course, Jennifer Griffin comes out and says, actually, every U.S.

00:26:15.620 and Israeli expert who has studied the Iranian nuclear program tells me that without the

00:26:18.900 agreement and inspectors on the ground, the Iranian regime, which while definitely hurt,

00:26:24.380 survived the humilitating military strikes, humiliating military strikes on its key nuclear

00:26:29.140 sites and its ballistic metal infrastructure missile, will return to pursuing nuclear enrichment.

00:26:35.000 You can't bomb the knowledge.

00:26:36.840 There's no way to bomb Iran's nuclear ambitions.

00:26:39.840 The military is a tool to set the program back in order to then negotiate.

00:26:43.540 But, you know, I have to say, guys, it seems to me that our ability to know what was happening

00:26:49.840 at Fordow was pretty good.

00:26:53.820 And it seems to have largely come from our intel, the Israeli intel, satellite images, and probably

00:27:02.260 not exactly the IAEA inspections that Iran had to allow.

00:27:07.640 So, I mean, I'm sure it was a combo, but like my point is simply, we seem to have known

00:27:12.640 Fordow the way your GYN knows your ovaries.

00:27:17.560 And that's a good thing.

00:27:20.260 I don't quite know how to react to that.

00:27:24.760 I presume that you probably can be said.

00:27:27.500 It is like an ovary.

00:27:32.220 He says, you don't actually have the ability to lay hands on it every day, but you can check

00:27:36.520 it out and keep an eye on it and make sure it's general health is where you want it to

00:27:40.600 be.

00:27:42.500 OK, OK, that's a fair assessment.

00:27:47.160 Well, I don't want to continue the the the parallel here.

00:27:50.560 But look, if if you think about the way that the press has has just entered into this conversation

00:27:58.400 with casting doubt and using this low confidence intel assessment to basically suggest that

00:28:03.840 this mission was a failure, which is ridiculous.

00:28:06.960 It's also illogical in that the stated mission from Donald Trump over and over and over again

00:28:13.600 and then after over and over and over again was to render these nuclear sites inoperable.

00:28:19.880 That's what it was.

00:28:21.320 Now, unless you didn't pay attention to the news for the last 10 days, the Israeli Air

00:28:25.820 Force is basically doing an Oshkosh air show over Tehran.

00:28:29.300 It wasn't a lot of opportunity to just sort of like one shot and done.

00:28:34.740 I mean, if they if they didn't get the job done, does anybody really think that Donald

00:28:40.280 Trump, Pete Hegseth and our brave men and women in uniform wouldn't get that job done?

00:28:45.520 Or moreover, that somehow Natasha Bertrand has a better handle on whether or not they're enriching

00:28:52.140 uranium still than our United States military that mapped out, as you say, the ovaries of

00:28:57.860 the nuclear facility.

00:28:59.840 Oh, you know, I mean, that's that's just the logical piece of this that makes no sense.

00:29:05.760 Well, and here's the other thing, like the initial report was like, oh, they they collapsed

00:29:09.820 the entrance to Forto.

00:29:11.280 That's basically it.

00:29:12.620 Meanwhile, you hear General Kane talking about how we all the number of bombs we had, but

00:29:17.500 these like burrowing bombs that, again, just picture like a rocket that we watch launch

00:29:21.940 only facing down, going down into the earth.

00:29:24.660 And that the precision drops of each into each ventilation shaft that was on either side

00:29:32.380 of the centrifuges doing the enrichment.

00:29:35.500 And the reason was because you can get down in those ventilation shafts.

00:29:39.040 Here's this.

00:29:39.580 This is from the test video that they showed us.

00:29:42.660 This isn't the actual, but supposedly it looks like what it looked like.

00:29:45.440 So they go down into those two ventilation shafts on either end and then dropped off like

00:29:50.560 a thousand pounds, whatever.

00:29:52.320 These are 30, 30,000 pound bombs and caused a huge explosion in the presser.

00:29:59.080 They talked about how the pilots talked about it was pitch dark and then it lit up like the

00:30:05.360 daytime, possibly because they hit a uranium centrifuge.

00:30:10.320 And now they want us to be believed like, oh, they basically knocked down a screen door

00:30:14.320 with them.

00:30:18.460 It's true.

00:30:19.240 Well, and back to Holmes's point on the whole common sense of this.

00:30:22.380 Do you think like if Donald Trump wasn't super confident that he got what he needed to out

00:30:27.120 of these strikes, do you think he would have been calling for a ceasefire?

00:30:29.440 Right.

00:30:29.660 And getting the Iranians and the Israelis to the table the next day?

00:30:32.700 It's the mission.

00:30:33.340 That was the point of the mission.

00:30:34.300 If it didn't succeed and they were basically doing whatever the heck they wanted over Tehran

00:30:39.640 for a calendar week, they were, of course, would have gotten the job done.

00:30:43.400 I mean, it's just, yes, it defies.

00:30:44.980 Even Trump said that Trump went in his thing about the agreement when he's like, I don't

00:30:47.800 think we need an agreement.

00:30:48.940 He says, you know, I told Marco, like, should we have an agreement?

00:30:53.340 He goes, because I think they'll do whatever we want them to do.

00:30:55.980 Like, right.

00:30:56.400 He's like, right now they're going to sign whatever the hell we want to resign.

00:30:59.900 So they don't see our B2 bombers again anytime soon.

00:31:04.200 Yeah.

00:31:04.880 Yeah.

00:31:05.380 I mean, look, fire up the ACDC, fire up Freebird.

00:31:09.540 We got America back on top of the world right now.

00:31:11.940 You see it, you know, Trump goes over to NATO and what a difference eight years makes,

00:31:17.900 right?

00:31:18.160 They're like making fun of him eight years ago.

00:31:20.760 Now they're like, oh, you wanted 2%.

00:31:21.960 How about 5?

00:31:22.620 How about 5% of our GDP?

00:31:24.440 What else do you need?

00:31:25.280 To me, that's the most stunning thing of seeing the press reaction, especially from people

00:31:29.120 like Natasha Bertrand, is we are so incredibly fortunate.

00:31:33.360 President Trump saw this window of opportunity where Israel had degraded so many of Iran's

00:31:39.080 proxies all around that region.

00:31:41.720 And America had already bombed the Houthis.

00:31:44.980 And so you have a window of opportunity for this problem, this thorn in our side, which

00:31:50.300 could eventually get to the point where Iran has a nuclear bomb and he has the foresight

00:31:54.900 and knows there's so much chatter out there online of like, oh, no, this is going to be

00:32:01.140 a forever war.

00:32:01.780 This is going to be 20 years of boots on the ground in Iran.

00:32:04.040 And he's willing to do the right thing.

00:32:06.760 Precision strike, which takes care of the problem.

00:32:09.880 Americans should be celebrating.

00:32:11.700 Wow.

00:32:12.300 Universally celebrating.

00:32:13.160 How lucky are we?

00:32:14.500 Yeah.

00:32:14.900 Yeah.

00:32:15.880 The only group of people trying to take America down a peg right now is the press.

00:32:20.380 I mean, Pete Hegseth had the temerity to say thank you to our boys in the air.

00:32:25.400 And they're like, wait a minute.

00:32:26.520 You didn't mention women.

00:32:27.900 You played this clip.

00:32:28.760 They asked him about it again today.

00:32:30.780 And it's an issue that I think deserves some examination.

00:32:34.040 You know, our good friend Josh Holmes pointed out earlier this week that if you look throughout

00:32:39.660 history, like it's Cyndi Lauper's famous song, Girls Just Want to Have a

00:32:43.140 Well, the truth of the matter is boys want to have fun, too.

00:32:46.700 So you need to go back through everything in history and even things out if you're going

00:32:51.680 to start doing it right now in America.

00:32:53.160 It's so true.

00:32:54.420 The nerve of Cyndi Lauper.

00:32:56.060 Who knew she was such a sexist pig?

00:32:57.880 Is it like it's this exclusionary language must stop?

00:33:04.560 And by the way, we looked it up.

00:33:06.180 The Washington Times is reporting that the woman who asked that totally inane question

00:33:12.180 was Associated Press reporter reporter Tara Copp, Tara C-O-P-P.

00:33:18.800 If so, she ought to be ashamed of herself.

00:33:22.060 If not, we'll correct it after we find out if we're wrong.

00:33:25.960 But I don't think we're wrong.

00:33:28.220 It tracks.

00:33:28.800 It's so bizarre.

00:33:30.280 The whole thing.

00:33:30.940 It's like you have this incredible mission, this absolute success.

00:33:35.600 Presidents from the from the 90s were talking about how you go about dealing with nuclear

00:33:42.080 ambitions in Iran.

00:33:43.020 We we end up with a successful strike and they're like, Mr. Secretary, were there trans

00:33:49.620 capabilities in B2s?

00:33:53.400 Like, we got to make sure that everyone feels comfortable and allowed to bomb.

00:33:58.140 It's a rock.

00:33:59.160 I mean, what in the hell?

00:34:02.020 That's exactly right.

00:34:03.420 Was there a non-binary bomber?

00:34:05.580 If so, I can't.

00:34:07.220 If not, I can't get behind this.

00:34:08.960 There's so much more to talk about here.

00:34:10.400 So I want to spend a minute on the media.

00:34:11.740 Laura Coates of CNN did like a whole hour earlier this week on how this was a failure.

00:34:17.900 Here's a sampling.

00:34:19.560 Just how effective were the American strikes on Iran's nuclear program?

00:34:24.840 Well, tonight, CNN is learning a preliminary intelligence assessment suggests they did not

00:34:29.660 destroy Iran's nuclear sites.

00:34:32.560 This early report is from the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency.

00:34:37.200 CNN has spoken with seven people briefed on it.

00:34:39.860 One source says that the strike set Iran back, quote, maybe a few months tops.

00:34:47.020 Two others tell us the country's stockpile of enriched uranium was also not destroyed.

00:34:52.320 Another says the centrifuges are largely intact.

00:34:55.280 Really, because the director of the IAEA is now on record saying the centrifuges are no longer operational.

00:35:04.980 The CIA and every other intelligence agency to look at this, including the Israelis, say it's been destroyed and it will take years for them to rebuild anything.

00:35:14.400 So, like, I look forward to their correction.

00:35:17.580 What's happening instead is you had Trump take aim in particular at CNN because they hired this dishonest Natasha Bertrand.

00:35:26.200 Bertrand, that's my opinion.

00:35:27.360 She's actually not just bad, dishonest.

00:35:29.860 They hired her and Trump says she should be fired.

00:35:33.180 I agree.

00:35:34.020 She shouldn't be hired.

00:35:34.780 The fact that she has a job at all after her disastrous fake news reporting for years at Politico and Business Insider and for the Atlantic is a miracle.

00:35:45.760 I mean, it's a travesty.

00:35:47.000 So he says she should be fired.

00:35:48.940 This is a ridiculous thing that she's out there still doing this to me.

00:35:51.480 And then you get, wait for it, Jake Tapper to swoop in and provide a lecture to the president on what the proper role of a journalist is.

00:36:02.980 I think we have it.

00:36:03.620 Let's watch.

00:36:04.540 Yes.

00:36:05.200 We don't know yet whether this administration is accurately portraying what happened in Iran or not.

00:36:12.540 We don't know.

00:36:14.280 That's the point of publishing what we know that the government learns once we learn it.

00:36:19.400 The lessons there, the news media needs to press for facts, even if it's uncomfortable, even if, as Americans and as humans, there is a personal instinct to rally around the flag.

00:36:31.500 Asking questions is literally our job.

00:36:34.500 Demanding facts and answers instead of just taking a president's word for it.

00:36:39.280 History has taught us that the most pro-service member action we can take is to ask questions of our leaders, especially in times of war.

00:36:52.380 That, for journalists, is the height of patriots.

00:36:56.420 He's still going.

00:36:57.720 He's still going.

00:36:58.560 My head hurts.

00:37:00.180 We have an obligation to ask questions of our presidents and not just take their word.

00:37:04.580 We know.

00:37:06.180 Yeah, we know.

00:37:07.220 We just spent four years covering for an invalid.

00:37:09.860 I wonder what was different about him.

00:37:11.340 Maybe it was because he's a Democrat.

00:37:13.240 I would say, Megan, though, it was nice to see that Jake has now regained control of his faculties after the beatdown that you administered during his book tour.

00:37:21.560 That was amazing.

00:37:21.900 My God.

00:37:22.740 That was incredible.

00:37:23.420 That's the only time I've ever felt really sorry for him ever in my life.

00:37:26.880 No, he deserved it.

00:37:27.940 He said he wanted a beatdown, so he said he was looking forward to the exchange, and then I think it went as we expected.

00:37:39.540 It was kind of you to oblige.

00:37:41.860 Okay, so they're all upset at CNN that their star reporter is now coming under fire.

00:37:48.680 Let me just give you a sample.

00:37:49.900 I know you guys know, but the audience, because no one's ever heard of this woman, Natasha Bertrand.

00:37:54.100 I can't even get her name straight.

00:37:55.520 She's very young.

00:37:56.560 She is fucking clueless.

00:37:58.640 Honestly, she has no idea how not to be used as a stenographer for intel forces that have an agenda.

00:38:07.100 These are the least trustworthy people on the planet.

00:38:12.760 Their leaks to you require the most scrutiny, doubt, and tire kicking of any leak you'll ever get.

00:38:20.940 But instead, her only test seems to have been, does this help or hurt Trump?

00:38:26.440 Hurt?

00:38:26.900 I'll go with it.

00:38:27.760 Let's do that.

00:38:28.760 There's just a sampling of her over the past couple of years.

00:38:31.500 But if you take, for example, the Steele dossier at kind of face value, or you take that as any kind of guide,

00:38:37.480 there was a lot of internal dissent within the Russian government about whether or not and to what extent

00:38:43.060 the Russians should interfere in the U.S. election and coordinate with Donald Trump.

00:38:48.120 Trump said, Russia, if you're listening, it almost seemed like a signal.

00:38:52.140 Intelligence experts have been telling me that it seemed like at that moment,

00:38:55.260 Trump was signaling to the Russians that it was okay for them to do that

00:38:58.320 and implicitly giving them his permission to do that.

00:39:02.700 That it makes it much more plausible that Trump did go to Russia

00:39:05.520 and he did have these kinds of sexual escapades with prostitutes.

00:39:08.720 I know Trump has been traveling to Moscow for quite some time,

00:39:12.200 and it just makes it all the more plausible that what the dossier says he did actually did occur.

00:39:16.980 What if Donald Trump actually knew beforehand that the Russians planned to do this

00:39:20.900 and was kind of giving them a signal to proceed?

00:39:23.300 Because former intelligence officials that I spoke to said that this might have been, in fact,

00:39:28.660 a signal to the Russians to give them kind of political cover in order to hack into Clinton's emails.

00:39:34.280 All right, Natasha, thanks so much.

00:39:35.520 You've covered this so closely and it shows.

00:39:38.380 Ah, yes.

00:39:40.000 First class reporting.

00:39:42.260 We could have been here all day with soundbites from her just like this.

00:39:46.280 You guys know Eric Wemple, right, at the Washington Post?

00:39:48.540 Oh, yeah.

00:39:49.180 He's a media critic and he's unsparing and he, to his credit, will be unsparing even of left-wing reporters.

00:39:56.740 And he went off on this woman in February of 2020.

00:40:02.820 I'm just going to give you a couple of samples, okay?

00:40:05.900 He started by recounting a hit that she was doing.

00:40:11.260 On MSNBC, because she used to be an MSNBC contributor.

00:40:15.640 Now she's over at CNN.

00:40:16.440 And he talks about how she went on Joy Reid's show and they turned to Natasha on whether Trump wanted Russian meddling or whether he just can't accept that foreign help is there.

00:40:29.740 Natasha responded, we don't have the reporting that suggests the president has told aides, for example, that he really wants Russia to interfere because he thinks that it's going to help him, right?

00:40:39.460 Eric Wemple goes on, no, we don't have that reporting, though there's no prohibition against fantasizing about it on national television.

00:40:48.580 Such is the theme of Bertrand's commentary during previous coverage of Russian interference, specifically the Steele dossier.

00:40:57.700 Bertrand helped or heaped credibility on the dossier, which was published in full by BuzzFeed in January 17, in repeated television appearances.

00:41:06.840 Her written work has appeared on Business Insider, The Atlantic, Politico, where she's now a national security correspondent.

00:41:12.320 She was at Politico before CNN, too.

00:41:14.380 Along the way, she bootstrapped her punditry into a contributor's role in MSNBC.

00:41:18.640 Her boosterism for these lies dates back years.

00:41:22.540 And he goes on about how she got the Paul Manafort story wrong.

00:41:26.420 She kept going on the air to play up every piece of the fake Russiagate reporting in the most uncharitable way towards Trump possible.

00:41:36.540 He says she her highlight reel features a great deal of thumb on the scale speculation regarding the dossier.

00:41:44.260 And if I read you all the highlights, we'd be here all day.

00:41:47.760 But let's just suffice it to say that she never saw a negative piece of information from the intel community about Trump.

00:41:54.020 She didn't like, and she's the one who printed, who broke the big news in Politico about the 51 intelligence agents who say the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.

00:42:08.660 This is the woman who just took a massive dump on those B2 pilots because she decided to run with nothing was destroyed except for the screen door.

00:42:20.700 And without telling the audience, it was low confidence.

00:42:24.020 So Natasha Bertrand has a very long and storied history of trafficking in just not only lies, but figments of her own imagination.

00:42:34.780 I think, you know, there were rumors that I heard from other journalists that the reason why she hops from publication to publication is because editors eventually get sick of having to deal with covering for what are out and out lies.

00:42:46.820 Sort of a tale of the Wrens issue.

00:42:48.660 Yeah. So she has to keep hopping around to publications.

00:42:51.940 And further, I've heard from Democrats that she's the easiest way to place anything you want and get it out there.

00:42:58.080 Of course.

00:42:58.620 She has built her career off of these TV hits where she basically says whatever any kind of like Looney Tune resistance, you know, wine mom wants to hear.

00:43:08.340 They want to be told you're not crazy, lady.

00:43:10.420 It's not, you know, you're a cat in your brain worms.

00:43:13.300 Actually, Trump is a Russian agent this whole time.

00:43:16.580 Believe me.

00:43:17.420 Now, let's feel the Chablis and have an afternoon.

00:43:20.160 Her entire career is based off of just feeding into that madness and telling insane people you're not the crazy one.

00:43:26.200 And she's gotten away with it for so long.

00:43:28.200 I cannot wait for it to finally catch up with her.

00:43:31.020 I mean, I have to ask, like, I, I don't know if they're lies.

00:43:33.720 I don't know what they are.

00:43:34.720 But how is she wrong so often and always in one direction?

00:43:38.860 You know, is she this naive?

00:43:40.880 Because when if you're going to cover this beat, you know, Intel, the Pentagon, I'm sorry, but like you need a Catherine Herridge.

00:43:48.020 You know, you need like a motherfucker who will like be all over you.

00:43:52.780 She won't believe a word you say.

00:43:54.440 She dislikes everyone.

00:43:55.600 Like, that's what you need.

00:43:57.340 It works.

00:43:58.000 It works.

00:43:59.460 You can't have this doe eyed, know nothing reporter who just gets used as tool, a stooge of these Intel agents who are far smarter than she is.

00:44:10.240 So I don't know if these are lies or just she's fine being used and made to look like a fool in every report.

00:44:18.920 She does smug.

00:44:19.760 I don't know.

00:44:21.040 Yeah, I don't I don't know if they're lies, Megan.

00:44:23.180 And I think what it is is to the it's wish casting, like whatever is the least charitable, you know, fact that the deep state can spin to her.

00:44:31.160 She's going to accept it at face value because she wants it to be true so badly.

00:44:35.080 The other thing that really comes to mind in all of this, you know, with reporters like that talking about how, oh, well, we didn't actually, you know, take out the nuclear sites like it's it's their their instinct to sort of root against Trump.

00:44:47.720 And it reminds me so much of those like early months of covid where you got this whole sort of strain of journalism that seemed like it was almost rooting for the virus.

00:44:55.660 Yeah.

00:44:56.020 You know, yes.

00:44:57.600 Yep.

00:44:58.060 Big inroads in Manhattan this afternoon.

00:45:00.720 No, it's true.

00:45:01.540 It's true.

00:45:02.120 But I think the Intel thing.

00:45:03.480 Look, this is a fairly recent phenomenon.

00:45:05.340 And it's in the era of Trump where we've sort of become more skeptical of what the deep state is producing.

00:45:12.100 And there's just cabal that's been it's not new.

00:45:15.400 But now we know about it.

00:45:16.500 That part is new of like the Brennans and the clappers and their acolytes that sort of live within this apparatus.

00:45:23.100 And people like Natasha Bertrand are their exclusive way out to just sort of undermine the larger mission of the country and the president and everything else.

00:45:32.860 But they do this very tricky thing.

00:45:34.580 And you could hear in the clips that you played of her doing just this, which is making an assertion that is like blindly insane, totally unsupported by facts.

00:45:45.380 And then she drops a comma and says, Intel officials say, yeah, right.

00:45:50.840 Intel official unidentified is likely one of these, you know, somebody who picks up Brennan's coffee in the morning.

00:45:58.360 But but that's the way that she can traffic the information to the American people.

00:46:02.700 This has been happening for decades.

00:46:04.560 It's only in the era of Trump that we've become aware of it.

00:46:07.680 And what you have is like in that example, Jake Tapper trying to spin this is like some glorious, noble effort at reporting by leaking a preliminary low confidence report, which she did not tell the audience was low confidence in her initial reporting.

00:46:27.100 Neither CNN nor The New York Times thought that would be relevant at all.

00:46:30.900 And I read you the Catherine Herridge explanation of how a normal schooled Pentagon or Intel reporter would receive such a leak.

00:46:41.000 They would be like, this is not worth the paper it's printed on.

00:46:43.980 It's it. That's. But what they do is when Pete Hegseth comes out and says, just stop.

00:46:49.540 That was low confidence and it was preliminary.

00:46:51.840 All their instincts are we're being lied to.

00:46:54.680 We're being spun. We're being spun as opposed to what if he's telling the truth?

00:46:59.300 What if, you know, when Tulsi Gabbard comes out, which she just did, too, and said it was that the facilities were destroyed, the CIA, John Radcliffe comes out and says, you know, I can't remember his phrase, but it was basically massive damage at all of them and devastating.

00:47:13.440 The IAEA guy saying, let's get more specific.

00:47:16.600 The centrifuges are no longer operational.

00:47:20.380 And he went on to describe the mass.

00:47:22.060 What if they're telling us the truth?

00:47:23.300 What if they're not all just engaged in a massive cover up operation, but our pilots actually did get it done?

00:47:30.440 How is it you can't even allow for that?

00:47:32.900 Right. And if you go back to the first clip you played, what was the one thing she was willing to take at face value?

00:47:40.180 The steel dossier.

00:47:41.460 I wasn't going to question that.

00:47:43.440 A lot of good reasons to believe that.

00:47:45.980 But it's not.

00:47:46.660 It's not just her.

00:47:48.480 You know, it's not just her.

00:47:49.580 There is an editorial process that falls apart when they don't include that this is a low confidence, a preliminary early report.

00:47:58.140 And also, by the way, the CIA says and also other intelligence sources say and the way that they frame it is that this is the fact.

00:48:07.060 And then here's a quote from Pete Hegseth, who worked at Fox News and therefore not credible.

00:48:12.720 And then here's more conjecture from blind sources that we're not even quoting.

00:48:17.040 We're just paraphrasing our interpretation of what it is they're claiming.

00:48:21.220 Well said.

00:48:21.940 And the Israelis feel pretty confident that these facilities were destroyed.

00:48:26.420 And like, I don't know, not for nothing.

00:48:28.140 But Mossad and the Israelis can put a missile into an apartment bedroom to kill a guy in Tehran.

00:48:34.620 I think they're pretty well sourced.

00:48:36.620 And not to mention, I mean, like they're the most under.

00:48:39.380 And Duncan, I don't think it's from the IAEA inspections that they knew where those guys were living and how to murder them.

00:48:46.000 Keep going.

00:48:47.140 And then the other side of it is like they're the most under threat.

00:48:50.420 Like they have all the incentive of the world to be like, I think maybe we did 50 percent of the job that you should go back in there.

00:48:55.240 But if they're confident in it, then we should be pretty confident.

00:48:57.960 That's why it's more pernicious than anything.

00:48:59.960 And that what they're assuming by saying this story is that basically Donald Trump is going to try to put our men and women in uniform in harm's way for something that didn't get done and then throw a bumper sticker and say it got done.

00:49:12.540 It's insane.

00:49:13.820 It is.

00:49:14.440 It literally doesn't make any sense.

00:49:16.540 Defies imagination.

00:49:18.200 And as Judge Judy says, if it doesn't make any sense, it isn't true.

00:49:22.540 Okay.

00:49:23.000 Stand by.

00:49:23.600 There's much more to discuss.

00:49:25.240 We've got to get over the bromance between Trump and the U.N. Secretary General.

00:49:29.920 It was unlike anything we've ever seen before.

00:49:31.520 NATO hates us.

00:49:33.520 NATO's.

00:49:34.580 Secretary General.

00:49:35.420 But NATO hates us.

00:49:36.880 And yet no longer.

00:49:38.040 Now we're BFFs.

00:49:38.880 It was an extraordinary turnabout.

00:49:40.040 We'll talk about it next.

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00:50:40.900 Here with me for the full show today, the hosts of The Ruthless Podcast, John Ashbrook, Michael Duncan,

00:50:46.840 Josh Holmes, and the man known to his minions as Comfortably Smug.

00:50:50.800 You can find all of their shows at RuthlessPodcast.com.

00:50:54.720 And speaking of shows, you guys are here.

00:50:57.820 You are my audience, in addition to my actual audience, for the world premiere of the following exclusive trailer.

00:51:07.980 You know, we've been doing, we've been getting into the parody business here on the MK Show.

00:51:13.260 We had some fun at Meghan Markle's expense, and we had some fun at the expense of the ladies from Blue Origin when we did our own Blonde Origin.

00:51:22.820 And our latest target, as you will see in this little trailer for tomorrow's bigger piece, is Michelle Obama.

00:51:32.880 A former first lady with her own podcast.

00:51:39.900 I'm Michelle Obama.

00:51:41.740 People line up for my advice.

00:51:45.260 No, not her.

00:51:47.560 This former first lady.

00:51:50.680 I'm Megan O.

00:51:52.100 People need to hear from me.

00:51:54.340 Many people don't understand.

00:51:56.100 Not much is covered in the White House.

00:51:57.980 It's expensive to live in the White House.

00:52:00.600 We made it through.

00:52:01.580 We got out alive.

00:52:02.840 But what happened to me?

00:52:03.940 What happened to me?

00:52:06.540 No one talks about this.

00:52:07.840 No, they don't.

00:52:09.180 With advice that will inspire.

00:52:11.660 Do you know what having children does to your life?

00:52:14.840 It ruins it.

00:52:16.120 They mess you up.

00:52:17.360 What is marriage?

00:52:18.360 It's about misery.

00:52:19.980 Folks think that this is harsh.

00:52:21.400 It's like you're going to have a bad decade.

00:52:23.220 We don't articulate our pain.

00:52:25.940 Yes.

00:52:26.300 Meet Megan O.

00:52:28.720 Friday on the Megan Kelly Show.

00:52:34.080 I think you're going to like it.

00:52:36.140 I love that stuff.

00:52:38.840 I love the deadpan.

00:52:40.420 We don't talk about that.

00:52:42.100 Nobody ever talks about that.

00:52:43.720 Maureen is my sister on the podcast.

00:52:46.780 She has her brother with her.

00:52:49.240 All he does is kiss her ass and get told how wrong he is on everything he says.

00:52:54.860 Anyway, we had so much fun doing this.

00:52:56.560 Because it's like basically we're doing the things that Saturday Night Live should do.

00:53:02.620 We're targeting the people who should be subjected to scorn and ridicule, but the left won't touch because they're too revered.

00:53:11.940 For some reason, Meghan Markle's in that category.

00:53:14.700 Michelle Obama, obviously.

00:53:16.760 The ladies of Blue Origin.

00:53:18.200 Everyone's too afraid of Jeff Bezos to touch the Lauren Sanchez thing.

00:53:22.900 It's like we've been having such a good time just saying what's obvious about that.

00:53:26.840 Michelle, she should change her name to Misery Obama.

00:53:29.820 That's really what I think of when I.

00:53:32.020 Misery Obama never has a positive word to say.

00:53:34.900 Never.

00:53:35.720 Never.

00:53:36.000 Not about children.

00:53:36.920 Not about family.

00:53:37.900 Certainly not about her husband.

00:53:39.540 By the way, before we leave this topic, here's her latest soundbite that made the rounds.

00:53:43.460 This happened on June 18th, but I was off.

00:53:45.480 Here it is, Sot 39.

00:53:46.720 You should have threw a boy in the mix.

00:53:49.860 I would.

00:53:50.320 I'm so glad I didn't have a boy.

00:53:51.780 Why didn't you have a third?

00:53:53.020 Oh, because he would have been a Barack Obama.

00:53:56.360 Oh, my.

00:53:57.180 We had a baby Barack.

00:53:58.740 It would have been amazing.

00:53:59.480 Oh, no.

00:54:00.400 I would have felt for him.

00:54:01.940 She just borrowed our boys.

00:54:03.560 Yes, I got a baby.

00:54:06.300 Wow.

00:54:07.040 Did you catch that?

00:54:08.460 She's glad she didn't have a boy because he would have been a Barack Obama, and that's

00:54:13.580 a hard pass for her.

00:54:15.120 This woman can't stand him.

00:54:16.840 Wait a minute.

00:54:17.660 Now I like her.

00:54:21.080 She prevented another Barack in the world.

00:54:24.900 The Iranian regime quakes.

00:54:26.800 We could have had another shot.

00:54:29.680 No, wait.

00:54:30.680 Speaking of Barack Obama, he decided to drop a post on X today, and I thought, OK, maybe

00:54:37.520 in the wake of the Pete Hegseth presser, he's going to say something like, no matter how

00:54:42.220 you feel about the Iranian strike, hats off to our, you know, boys in blue.

00:54:45.920 Our guys in the bombers.

00:54:48.780 He went a different way.

00:54:50.040 This is what it was.

00:54:51.780 I'm curious how you're thinking about this eulogy specifically in the moment and all the

00:54:56.300 tensions that you just brought out.

00:54:57.920 I didn't even want to talk.

00:54:59.020 I was so mad.

00:55:00.220 Part of the reason I think I ended up having anything to say at that moment was when I heard

00:55:07.380 some of the victims' families forgive the shooter.

00:55:16.040 And I thought, all right, let's see if maybe this is a way America can hear me at this moment.

00:55:24.160 Go back to that day 10 years ago.

00:55:26.500 What I think binds it together, all these different strands, case upholding health care,

00:55:32.620 a case declaring same-sex marriage part of our constitutional protections, of mourning.

00:55:38.140 I think what pulls it all together is that no one person did any of that.

00:55:48.080 Okay.

00:55:48.760 So he's sitting around on a June Thursday thinking about himself and his glory days.

00:55:58.360 And to your point, Smug, I'm starting to warm up to Michelle Obama's POV.

00:56:02.420 I mean, like, what is he doing?

00:56:04.640 So that's really something, you know, a lot of people can try to be critical of President

00:56:11.860 George W. Bush, but he said numerous times that upon leaving the White House, he saw it

00:56:18.640 as not a respect that wasn't even given to him of leave with grace.

00:56:24.160 The job is someone else's now.

00:56:26.400 Yeah.

00:56:26.720 And like the kind of thing you do when you respect your country.

00:56:29.400 Yeah.

00:56:29.920 Yeah.

00:56:30.120 And then you've got, first off, Michelle Obama being like, you don't understand how

00:56:33.880 tough it was, you know, hats off to the production team, though, at the Megyn Kelly show.

00:56:40.060 I've seen some numbers and I think your production team actually may have doubled the total audience

00:56:45.140 of the Michelle Obama podcast.

00:56:47.980 Last time I saw they had like just the most atrocious numbers.

00:56:52.920 I mean, I guess that's why I thought it was just because everyone's done with the Obamas.

00:56:57.000 It doesn't want to hear about him.

00:56:57.860 But like, even if you were the kind of person who's like, I really care what Michelle Obama

00:57:02.480 thinks.

00:57:02.900 And then she's like, it was tough.

00:57:04.740 We barely survived living in the White House.

00:57:07.480 We got out alive.

00:57:08.920 I have a conspiracy theory on this, Megan.

00:57:12.100 And that is Michelle Obama is probably getting really tired of people being like, you should

00:57:17.200 run, like you should be a politician.

00:57:19.000 She's like, I'm going to disabuse you.

00:57:20.300 Yeah.

00:57:20.460 I'm going to make myself as unlikable as possible.

00:57:22.520 I'm going to show you how negative I am.

00:57:23.800 Yeah.

00:57:23.980 People stop asking.

00:57:24.920 Misery Obama does not want to run for office.

00:57:28.300 Misery just wants to sit and talk about how miserable she is.

00:57:30.980 And honestly, when you see the full parody tomorrow, you'll laugh.

00:57:33.680 Like I even I started bursting out laughing a couple of times because it seems impossible.

00:57:37.160 Like it seems like I'm being too mean.

00:57:39.060 But then we've interspliced the actual Michelle Obama saying these exact things.

00:57:43.540 It's like, we didn't have to make it up.

00:57:45.900 I'd like to see the outtakes of that whole thing, too, Megan.

00:57:49.560 That's a good idea, Holmes.

00:57:50.900 It's going to be great.

00:57:52.240 We may.

00:57:52.880 Let me try to put that together for you on request.

00:57:55.900 I will speak to the production team because the fellas have good ideas.

00:58:00.000 OK, so that's by the way, Bill Clinton, too.

00:58:02.440 He had time to tweet out about June 19th or Juneteenth.

00:58:07.320 He had time to tweet out about Zoran Mamdani, but not a word about our the military accomplishment

00:58:15.000 that they all said we needed to do, that they all said Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear

00:58:19.320 weapon.

00:58:19.600 And our boys went out there and made sure it didn't happen.

00:58:22.820 And because it was under Trump, they couldn't spare just a fucking tweet just to say, proud

00:58:28.360 to be an American.

00:58:29.420 Go Team USA or like congrats to our men and women in uniform for once again proving what

00:58:35.360 a true professional looks like.

00:58:36.640 You can absolutely find a way to to tip your hat to these guys or over whom you were commander

00:58:43.080 in chief for a time without endorsing the mission.

00:58:45.720 If you don't want to do that, you know, it's just no, it's more important to talk about

00:58:49.440 Zoran Mamdani or Juneteenth or in Obama's case himself.

00:58:54.820 And it's even deeper, like Jeb Bush tweeted out congratulations to President Trump for

00:58:59.800 stopping Iran's nuclear program.

00:59:01.320 And Trump tweets out, thanks for the shout out, Jeb Bush.

00:59:03.760 Like if you have a situation where President Trump like viciously destroys you and then you

00:59:10.060 can come out and be like bygones are bygones.

00:59:12.520 I celebrate America, you know, de-arming a terrible ally of ours and preventing Iran from

00:59:18.560 having a nuclear program.

00:59:20.480 I, you know, I've given this some thought though, on the Bill Clinton side of things.

00:59:24.660 And I, you know, I'm tired of Barack Obama.

00:59:27.180 I don't necessarily need to hear from the Clintons.

00:59:29.380 There is one media appearance that is absolutely essential that he makes at some point.

00:59:33.660 It's that Monica Lewinsky podcast.

00:59:35.680 I mean, can you imagine that would be an absolute barn burner?

00:59:43.220 Now, wait, I'm sorry.

00:59:44.420 I'm pausing because I'm just looking at this possible breaking news that's coming in.

00:59:49.660 The Times of Israel has a report.

00:59:51.280 It's sourced to one source.

00:59:54.220 So it's sourcing a local Israeli Hebrew daily newspaper.

01:00:00.760 So it's not the Times of Israel's original reporting.

01:00:03.040 So we'll see whether it's true, but I'll give you the headline.

01:00:06.240 It's that Netanyahu has agreed to end the Gaza war within two weeks after the U.S. strike

01:00:11.060 on the Iranian facilities.

01:00:12.920 And it also goes on to say, again, we don't have this confirmed, that the deal will include

01:00:19.200 the expansion of the Abraham Accords, according to a source familiar with the conversation.

01:00:23.900 That would be huge.

01:00:24.840 And actually also has a plan for what to do with Gaza.

01:00:28.980 This is according, again, they're citing this one outlet that we don't know.

01:00:32.900 We don't know.

01:00:34.520 I don't know.

01:00:35.400 Let's see.

01:00:35.720 What's this?

01:00:36.220 This is another thing coming in for this paper.

01:00:38.700 Gaza hostilities will conclude within two weeks.

01:00:41.300 Ending conditions.

01:00:42.480 Yeah, will encompass four Arab nations, including Egypt and the UAE, to administer the Gaza Strip,

01:00:48.860 replacing the murderous Hamas terrorist organization.

01:00:50.940 The remaining Hamas leadership will face exile to other countries while the hostages gain freedom.

01:00:55.560 If this is true, it's huge.

01:00:59.060 If this is true, I mean, there is no reason why President Trump doesn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.

01:01:04.560 No, it's true.

01:01:06.180 I mean, these are generational issues which have been conflicts that have gone unresolved

01:01:13.960 and caused so much loss of life and misery.

01:01:16.720 And if this is true, in six months, this guy, I mean, I'm flabbergasted.

01:01:24.940 I never thought in my lifetime I'd see this.

01:01:26.440 Yeah.

01:01:26.560 And if the Nobel Committee can't see it within themselves to give him that prize,

01:01:32.040 they need to just create a new one called the Trump Peace Prize.

01:01:35.100 This is peace in our time, possibly like we've never seen in our entire lives.

01:01:40.560 I got the chills.

01:01:43.060 Like I actually, but their hair is standing up in the back of my neck because like they've,

01:01:49.340 think of that, like getting the hostages back is number one, bringing the fighting to a close

01:01:55.280 officially between Israel and Hamas and expanding the Abraham Accords.

01:01:59.620 That's going to be very interesting.

01:02:00.740 Who's next?

01:02:01.240 Saudi would be huge.

01:02:02.760 And then possibly having the UAE and Egypt oversee Gaza Muslims, right?

01:02:10.440 Not, not the United States, not Israel, most importantly, but Muslims, you know,

01:02:17.520 who don't want the Palestinians coming to them, but could be responsible for keeping the peace

01:02:22.280 in that region.

01:02:23.120 My God, I mean, what a, what a massive undertaking again, huge grain of salt to the audience.

01:02:27.420 We do not know times of Israel is legit, but we do not know this other paper they're citing.

01:02:32.140 It's a Hebrew daily newspaper who's reporting this based on a phone call.

01:02:36.200 They're saying happened between Trump and Netanyahu.

01:02:39.680 So, wow.

01:02:41.000 God, I hope it's true.

01:02:42.340 That would be so wonderful for the world.

01:02:45.680 Well, we'll put a pin in it until if it's true, it's going to come out probably within

01:02:49.540 the next hour.

01:02:50.060 We can round back to it.

01:02:50.880 But no, I'm just letting you know that that's, that's what I was looking at.

01:02:53.700 I have to spend a minute on what happened at the Supreme court today, which did happen

01:02:56.820 and has been confirmed.

01:02:58.680 Another victory for sanity as the,

01:03:02.140 the, uh, the Supreme court rules that states can cut off Medicaid funding to planned parenthood

01:03:10.980 within their States.

01:03:12.780 What happened was the state of South Carolina did it.

01:03:15.640 You're already not supposed to be using taxpayer money, um, to on, on planned parenthood

01:03:20.820 on abortion.

01:03:22.420 But what happens in various States is planned parenthood says, Oh, well, Mary's coming here

01:03:28.300 for contraception, or they always say cancer screenings, even though they're really not

01:03:33.260 done at that.

01:03:33.760 All these planned parenthoods there, she's just coming here for cancer screening or her birth

01:03:37.700 control.

01:03:38.520 That's all.

01:03:39.620 But Mary's not going to have an abortion and she's not going to use her Medicaid money

01:03:42.980 for an abortion.

01:03:43.420 And that's how they get Medicaid funding for Mary's visit, but money's fungible.

01:03:48.700 And this, the Medicaid is a joint state and federal program.

01:03:53.040 So we are, we are funding abortions because our money is going to planned parenthood in

01:03:57.920 various States.

01:03:58.580 And there are millions of Americans who have a very, very deep problem with that.

01:04:03.600 Um, planned parenthood should get its own money from its own well-heeled, deep pocketed

01:04:11.140 leftist donors like Alex Soros now and his weird wife, Uma.

01:04:16.200 And that's where they should get their money.

01:04:17.900 Not from us, not from taxpayers who want nothing to do with abortion.

01:04:22.460 So the Supreme court has sided with the same people because what happened was Mary, who's not

01:04:27.820 really named Mary in this case, it's an individual who said, um, I'm going to sue you.

01:04:32.140 Her name was Julie Edwards saying, I want to keep going back to my South Carolina planned

01:04:36.960 parenthood for birth control.

01:04:38.280 And I want my Medicaid payments to pay for it.

01:04:41.460 And, uh, the, the, the governor had said, no, we're not allowing that for anybody, Julie,

01:04:46.960 sorry.

01:04:47.540 And the Supreme court just said, States actually do have that right because Medicaid has a

01:04:51.400 private right of action to enforce it.

01:04:53.020 Like you have a right to sort of get the doctor of your choosing.

01:04:55.160 And, um, the Supreme court said, no, this is one exception to that rule.

01:04:59.980 The States do not have to allow a private plaintiff to bring a lawsuit.

01:05:03.900 If a governor says no public funds for planned parenthood are happening in our state.

01:05:08.660 And that's, that's huge.

01:05:09.880 You guys, that's a big ruling.

01:05:11.980 It is really big.

01:05:12.720 It all stems from what they call the Mexico city policy, which is reinstated every time

01:05:17.120 there's a Republican president, which prohibits taxpayer, federal taxpayer dollars for going

01:05:21.800 to pay for abortion.

01:05:22.800 But as the left does with almost everything that they do, they try to figure out a way

01:05:27.760 for taxpayers to pay for their social agenda in one way or another.

01:05:32.400 This is a perfect example of how they've done that.

01:05:34.960 The idea that Medicaid dollars are going to planned parenthood.

01:05:40.120 I mean, we know what that outfit does.

01:05:41.860 And for decades, they've just couched under women's health, women's health.

01:05:47.240 This is a women's health clinic.

01:05:49.300 Now it's an abortion store.

01:05:51.120 That's, that's what it is.

01:05:52.480 And let's, let's be very clear about it, but that's a big court ruling.

01:05:56.340 Gosh, what a time to be alive and that we're having some sanity all across the board.

01:06:00.760 Tomorrow we're going to get, we expect, um, I think it's the last day of opinions.

01:06:03.960 We expect to get the ruling on whether these nationwide injunctions can keep getting handed down

01:06:08.100 by these district courts, which is the number one form of resistance 2.0 to stop the Trump

01:06:12.900 administration.

01:06:13.600 It's coming up in the context of a birthright citizenship, you know, which Trump has said

01:06:18.260 you can't have, he's interpreted the country constitution to say you're not a citizen just

01:06:23.660 because you're born here.

01:06:25.160 If you're born to somebody who doesn't have citizenship and, um, a judge blocked that

01:06:30.760 executive order and issued a nationwide injunction against enforcing it.

01:06:35.260 And so while this doesn't exactly get to the birthright citizenship, uh, issue, that's the

01:06:41.020 context in which the notion of a nationwide injunction is coming up.

01:06:44.000 So this is going to be a very interesting case on all fronts.

01:06:45.980 We'll have it covered for you tomorrow because it's, it'll come down at 10 a.m.

01:06:49.080 Okay.

01:06:49.540 Let's keep going.

01:06:50.200 Cause there's still a lot to get to.

01:06:51.940 We were on Iran.

01:06:53.220 Let's take the close pivot to, uh, NATO and related issues.

01:06:58.760 NATO of course is an organization that many North Atlantic countries have, uh, joined.

01:07:04.560 Originally to prevent aggression in the region by countries like Russia.

01:07:09.160 Um, now it's less clear what exactly we're all doing in this party, but it's very, very

01:07:13.580 important to the Europeans because we're, we seem to be the big brother who protects

01:07:17.940 everybody and they don't want big brother to leave.

01:07:20.060 They like big brother's muscles.

01:07:21.220 They like big brother strength.

01:07:22.740 And they really like his big military with the big B twos.

01:07:25.500 So they want us to get along with the big brother.

01:07:27.460 They want big brother to stay in the Alliance.

01:07:29.000 And Trump all along first term and second has kind of been saying, eh, I guess we will,

01:07:37.020 but like, we're kind of sick of you freeloading off of us.

01:07:40.020 Why don't you at least pay what you've already agreed to pay, which is the 2% of your GDP,

01:07:43.460 all of you countries instead of freeloading.

01:07:45.800 And he went over there and I pulled this for AM update today.

01:07:48.500 People should listen to that pod, but I pulled the New York times article from 2018 when he

01:07:53.120 went to NATO and it was so negative.

01:07:55.120 It was like, he has everyone rattled.

01:07:57.780 He's disrespectful.

01:07:58.940 He's doing things unconventionally.

01:08:00.840 Uh, you know, all the backbiting comments about Trump, both from the times reporters and

01:08:06.280 from other countries who are like, what is this effing thing that's come over here trying

01:08:11.120 to demand we pay to 2% for real and threatening to leave NATO if he, if, if we don't now flash

01:08:17.860 forward to, you know, all these years later, what five, six, seven years.

01:08:21.480 And NATO's like, let's do this.

01:08:24.000 And Trump gets them to pay 5% of GDP, or at least commit the major nations to commit to

01:08:29.820 doing that.

01:08:30.800 And does the time say like nailed it, Mr.

01:08:34.120 President, good for you.

01:08:35.060 You know what?

01:08:36.000 Your irascible nature actually wound up working on these people long-term.

01:08:40.060 No, they complained that they're not actually going to pay the 5%.

01:08:43.720 And why wasn't there more attention on Ukraine and the funding for that war?

01:08:49.640 You can't win.

01:08:50.880 He's at the point where like literally the secretary general of NATO is calling him daddy

01:08:54.860 and saying he deserves the praise.

01:08:56.860 Shut up.

01:08:57.660 And they're still like, no, he's failing.

01:09:00.120 He sucks.

01:09:00.980 Okay.

01:09:01.140 So let me give you the, um, sound bites.

01:09:03.040 Cause everybody wants to hear the NATO secretary general, Mark root it, uh, and his comments

01:09:08.220 about Trump daddy.

01:09:09.980 This is what set everything off where he referred to him as daddy.

01:09:12.940 I think that's 14.

01:09:15.880 They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard.

01:09:18.560 You know, they fight like hell.

01:09:19.860 You can't stop them.

01:09:20.880 Let them fight for about two, three minutes.

01:09:22.960 Then it's easier to stop them.

01:09:24.320 And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language.

01:09:26.800 He didn't say you're my daddy, but he said, daddy has to use strong language.

01:09:37.360 That's okay.

01:09:37.960 All right.

01:09:38.280 I'm fine.

01:09:38.780 I think it's fine.

01:09:40.000 Trump gets asked about it by the snarky reporter and says this inside 11.

01:09:45.060 Mark Ritter, the NATO chief who is, is your friend.

01:09:48.840 Um, he called you daddy earlier.

01:09:51.960 Um, do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?

01:09:56.780 No, he likes me.

01:09:57.560 I think he likes me.

01:09:58.660 If he doesn't, I'll let you know.

01:10:00.240 I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.

01:10:01.700 Okay.

01:10:02.160 No, he did.

01:10:03.080 He did it very affectionate.

01:10:04.260 He, daddy, you're my daddy.

01:10:10.560 One more, one more before I toss it to you.

01:10:13.420 Um, Mark Ritter got asked about it by maybe the same reporter.

01:10:17.260 She sounds terrible.

01:10:18.480 Take a listen.

01:10:20.060 The language that you have used when talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of

01:10:25.760 its flattery.

01:10:27.140 Um, today you called him daddy and you sent a text message to him that was gushing with

01:10:33.740 praise.

01:10:34.580 Is this the way that you feel that you have to act when doing business with the U S president

01:10:40.700 through flattery and praise?

01:10:43.140 Isn't it a bit demeaning and doesn't it make you look weak?

01:10:46.200 No, I don't think so.

01:10:48.200 I think it's a bit of a question of, uh, taste, uh, but I think he's a good friend.

01:10:52.420 Uh, and when he is, uh, doing stuff which is forcing us to, for example, when it comes

01:10:58.520 to, uh, making more investments, uh, I mean, would you ever think that this would be the

01:11:03.920 result of this summit, if he would not have been reelected president, do you really think

01:11:07.480 that, uh, seven or eight countries who said, yeah, somewhere in the 2030s, we might meet

01:11:12.240 the 2% we've now all decided in the last four or five months to get to 2%.

01:11:16.640 So doesn't he deserve some praise?

01:11:19.040 And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action, very targeted to

01:11:24.880 make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability.

01:11:30.680 I think he deserves all the praise.

01:11:34.000 Boom.

01:11:34.360 Such a good answer.

01:11:35.160 That's it right there.

01:11:36.060 Such a good answer.

01:11:36.840 Former prime minister of the Netherlands there, Mark Ruda.

01:11:39.260 Good for him.

01:11:39.840 Go ahead.

01:11:40.680 Yeah.

01:11:41.080 Uh, a couple observations.

01:11:43.080 Uh, the first is that was the same reporter.

01:11:45.900 Sort of into the daddy talk.

01:11:47.240 Yeah.

01:11:47.300 It's, uh, it's Deborah Haynes of Sky News.

01:11:50.420 Yeah.

01:11:50.880 She's got a thing with the daddy talk.

01:11:52.600 I don't know what's up with that.

01:11:53.620 You get two questions to ask the president of the United States.

01:11:56.100 The NATO secretary judge is like, tell me more about the daddy thing.

01:11:59.920 Let's talk more about that.

01:12:01.560 I don't know.

01:12:02.500 I'm not saying.

01:12:03.280 I'm just saying.

01:12:04.000 I'm going to send her a t-shirt.

01:12:04.340 They're already making t-shirts.

01:12:05.540 They're red and they have Trump's picture on it and they read daddy.

01:12:10.300 Second observation is this guy, uh, what an exceptional head of hair he has.

01:12:15.440 Yeah.

01:12:15.800 Right.

01:12:16.420 I mean, I'm, I will follow that man anywhere.

01:12:18.820 That is incredible.

01:12:19.980 Put it back up.

01:12:20.600 I didn't look at the hair.

01:12:21.620 Can we, we had to put it back up there.

01:12:22.700 You don't have to run the sound.

01:12:24.300 You'll have to.

01:12:24.860 It's S tier flow.

01:12:25.720 It really is.

01:12:27.160 It's like the kind of thing you would want leading your nation.

01:12:29.700 Yeah.

01:12:29.920 It makes Mitt Romney look like Mr.

01:12:31.560 Clean.

01:12:31.880 Roll the tape, please.

01:12:32.940 Producers.

01:12:33.520 Let's see.

01:12:34.440 Not her.

01:12:35.040 No, we're not.

01:12:36.000 Wait.

01:12:36.640 Mark Ruda.

01:12:37.920 Yeah.

01:12:38.640 Just a great head of hair.

01:12:40.220 Looks good.

01:12:41.020 More than happy to feel the daddy talk from that, uh, young Sky News reporter.

01:12:46.700 They're good looking people.

01:12:47.600 And I mean, the thing is, is that, you know, his job is to ensure that NATO is in a position

01:12:57.100 to accomplish what they need to get done.

01:12:59.760 And for a reporter to, again, use her time to try to make it.

01:13:03.920 Do you feel you need to be effusive in your flattery that he has to be like, let me present

01:13:09.220 the facts to you.

01:13:10.580 Did you not just see what happened in Iran?

01:13:13.120 Right.

01:13:13.600 And then he even says, like, if President Trump had not been reelected, do you think we'd be

01:13:18.820 in a place where all these countries have agreed to this funding?

01:13:21.020 But tell me more about the daddy talk.

01:13:23.340 It's unbelievable.

01:13:24.180 I will tell you.

01:13:25.000 And he said, he's like, look, there's a question of, like, taste.

01:13:28.380 I realize you're razzing me.

01:13:30.120 I was making a joke.

01:13:31.520 Like, he's basically like, calm down, Debra, right?

01:13:35.000 Yep.

01:13:35.260 Take a chill pill.

01:13:36.220 It was humor.

01:13:37.100 And he deserves my praise.

01:13:38.820 I mean, is it possible even our friends in Europe are starting to get that the way to

01:13:45.000 deal with these woke asshole reporters is to laugh at them?

01:13:49.460 Go ahead, Ashbrook.

01:13:49.920 It's exactly right.

01:13:51.220 It's one of the fringe benefits of Trump being who he is, that all of these other leaders

01:13:57.400 are like, wait a minute.

01:13:58.480 I don't have to just take it from this idiot.

01:14:00.560 I have common sense, too.

01:14:02.040 And I'm going to answer your question that is so stupid with normal common sense.

01:14:07.240 And you're going to look really dumb.

01:14:08.820 And Trump has shown everybody.

01:14:11.620 I mean, that's real leadership.

01:14:12.820 He's shown everybody around the world that you can do that and you can win.

01:14:17.160 And also, you know, I don't think what's been appreciated is the second and third order

01:14:21.960 effects and results of President Trump taking this decisive action.

01:14:25.680 We've already talked about how, you know, the Houthis and Hezbollah and the various groups

01:14:29.200 that Iran would lean on had been dismantled.

01:14:32.100 And President Trump used this window of opportunity to then get rid of the nuclear program.

01:14:36.280 Part of the reason Iran also didn't have is because Syria.

01:14:38.820 You see, like the allies in the region that they had are all one by one falling apart.

01:14:44.900 Russia no longer has any say in this region.

01:14:48.500 So so Europe's got to be in a happy position.

01:14:50.700 China now can't buy cheap oil from Iran.

01:14:54.420 You're seeing a situation where President Trump has been able to just slice through all

01:14:59.020 these geopolitical problems that we've had.

01:15:01.120 So I imagine Europeans are thrilled.

01:15:03.780 Well, it's restoring America to the leader of the free world.

01:15:06.060 Yeah, the Europeans are thrilled, but the left, I'm sure, is furious because four years of

01:15:10.820 Joe Biden, they all had to walk around and pretend that this guy was bringing America

01:15:14.480 back on the world stage, you know, like toting a colostomy bag around the Middle East, may

01:15:19.720 or may not have shit his britches over there when he met the pope or, you know, or he farted

01:15:24.960 in front of the queen or something like that.

01:15:26.700 I can't remember.

01:15:27.680 But but they must make them furious to see Donald Trump roll up eight years ago.

01:15:32.080 They were laughing at him, like you said, Holmes.

01:15:34.380 And now, you know, they're kissing the ring.

01:15:37.060 Yeah.

01:15:37.540 And now Mark Ruda, he was like doubling and tripling down.

01:15:40.380 Here's more.

01:15:41.700 He somebody tried to play the but he's so unpredictable.

01:15:45.880 You know, he's he's like irascible and he's he's unpredictable.

01:15:49.940 And here's what Mark Ruda said to that guy.

01:15:53.000 Stop 15.

01:15:54.600 He's a good friend.

01:15:55.340 I trust him.

01:15:57.040 He was totally right that that Europe and Canada were not basically providing to NATO

01:16:03.560 what we should provide.

01:16:04.540 Now we are correcting that.

01:16:05.600 We are equalizing.

01:16:06.480 I think it is a man of strength, but also a man of peace.

01:16:09.900 You've seen that basically now with Iran, the man of strength being able to command his

01:16:15.360 B2 bombers to go to into Iran to take out nuclear capability.

01:16:19.920 But also the man of peace, who is then immediately following up with making sure that Israel and

01:16:25.740 Iran will commit to a ceasefire.

01:16:27.440 And I think this is exactly what you want the American president to do, provide that

01:16:32.060 type of leadership.

01:16:32.720 And so I find him very predictable.

01:16:35.100 Because the question had been, you're dealing with a very unpredictable president or a friend

01:16:40.600 who's been all over the map on Article five in the past.

01:16:43.060 But how do you know?

01:16:43.860 How are you certain that the Trump you're dealing with right now is the same version of

01:16:46.620 Trump that you'll be dealing with for the rest of this term?

01:16:48.980 And he went on like the beginning was I've known him for almost 10 years.

01:16:52.080 He's a good friend.

01:16:52.880 I trust him.

01:16:53.800 He was totally right.

01:16:54.820 Europe and Canada were not providing to NATO what we should provide.

01:16:58.660 And then goes on to say what you just heard him say, like he is predictable and he's

01:17:04.180 a friend.

01:17:04.740 It's like this is we've never heard world leaders do this.

01:17:08.260 Like this guy seems genuinely inspired by Trump, his strength, his unwillingness to bend.

01:17:14.860 And I can only hope it becomes a little more contagious across the pond because they could

01:17:20.220 use they could use the backbone.

01:17:21.760 OK, I got it.

01:17:23.220 I got to spend a moment on Carrie Lake.

01:17:24.900 I can't believe what I saw yesterday.

01:17:26.960 Did you see it?

01:17:27.560 Oh, oh, sorry.

01:17:28.520 Steve really wants us to play the White House's response to the daddy thing.

01:17:32.840 I'm less enamored with it.

01:17:34.440 But OK, we'll play it.

01:17:35.340 Here it is.

01:17:35.660 Sot 16.

01:17:36.900 Steve likes the daddy song.

01:17:40.020 Yeah.

01:17:40.460 The White House put this out.

01:17:48.900 OK, we get it.

01:17:49.760 It's strong.

01:17:51.300 They're leaning in.

01:17:52.440 It's cute.

01:17:52.940 The White House has a sense of humor, which we appreciate.

01:17:55.100 OK, but I got to get to Carrie Lake.

01:17:57.000 So Carrie Lake is working for the president.

01:18:01.240 Hold on.

01:18:01.560 I got to get my papers here.

01:18:02.980 OK, she's working for the president right now as a senior advisor at the U.S.

01:18:08.240 Agency for Global Media.

01:18:10.140 And she's doing she's dogeifying it, which Trump instructed her to do.

01:18:15.980 She announced last week that this group was eliminating four hundred fourteen hundred

01:18:19.760 positions, which is an 85 percent cut of the personnel for March.

01:18:24.380 And that's when Trump signed an executive order gutting the agency does not think this is

01:18:28.340 an important agency.

01:18:29.460 They oversee Voice of America, which, you know, has like radio reporting throughout the world

01:18:35.080 and funds several other independent broadcast outlets stationed around the globe.

01:18:39.860 During the hearing, she was talking about how one of the reasons they're getting rid of

01:18:43.900 all these people is because it's staffed with people who hate America.

01:18:48.300 Yeah.

01:18:48.500 This is clearly Trump's conclusion, too.

01:18:50.620 Yeah.

01:18:51.220 And exactly.

01:18:51.720 So she went in there to, you know.

01:18:55.900 What's the way to basically take a sledgehammer to them, chainsaw to them, and now they're

01:19:02.240 having hearings on Capitol Hill talking about whether this is a good idea.

01:19:05.680 And one of the persons who cross examined her was Arizona.

01:19:10.420 That's where she's from.

01:19:11.540 Democratic Representative Greg Stanton.

01:19:14.640 Now, he started off.

01:19:16.800 I don't know.

01:19:17.000 Is this in our soundbite?

01:19:17.800 Because he started off going for her.

01:19:21.080 Greg Stanton sounds like a prick.

01:19:23.380 I'm going to be honest.

01:19:24.860 I'll just give you a little bit more than what you're going to hear in the soundbite.

01:19:27.900 He said she's eroding America's soft power around the globe.

01:19:31.400 Your job is to tell the people of the world the truth about America, which I guess he doesn't

01:19:35.580 think Carrie Lake will tell.

01:19:37.940 Then challenged her on her election losses in Arizona and her refusal to accept them.

01:19:43.040 You lost fair and square.

01:19:45.000 He said she lost due to her own toxic politics.

01:19:48.240 You're an adjudicated liar and two-time political loser.

01:19:52.200 He said people around the world can't trust this agency if she's lied about her own election

01:19:56.700 outcomes.

01:19:57.480 He sarcastically asked her to run for Arizona governor again.

01:20:01.980 So just so you know, that's what led up to her giving him an elbow of her own right in

01:20:09.040 the face.

01:20:09.820 And just watch you are an adjudicated liar and a two-time political loser in Arizona.

01:20:18.880 You lost for governor in 2022 to Katie Hobbs.

01:20:22.220 You lost even worse to Ruben Gallego for Senate in 2024.

01:20:27.320 Well, Arizona has another election for governor next year.

01:20:31.220 We do us all a favor and run it back and run for governor again.

01:20:37.060 I yield.

01:20:37.340 Can I respond to some of that?

01:20:40.400 Because that was a complete insanity.

01:20:43.160 I wish I could yield back the last five minutes of my life.

01:20:46.240 But you weren't here.

01:20:47.100 You came in late.

01:20:48.240 And we're talking about USAGM today, the agency for global media, and how they can put

01:20:53.800 out absolute abject lies.

01:20:55.720 And we can't control any.

01:20:57.000 We have no say over what the editorial content is.

01:21:00.040 And I would hope that you would not be okay with that.

01:21:03.100 They could literally put out a lie about anybody here.

01:21:05.980 And I know you've been the victim of that.

01:21:08.000 I know you've been the victim.

01:21:09.200 I remember the stories about you where they said you had a gay lover.

01:21:14.820 And those were going out all over.

01:21:16.460 Mr. Chair.

01:21:16.920 Those kind of lies could be broadcast today on VOA.

01:21:20.620 And you couldn't pick up the phone, Representative Stanton, and call them and say, hey, you're

01:21:25.180 putting out lies about me.

01:21:26.480 And how would you like it if those lies were put on Voice of America right now?

01:21:29.920 Ruling on the chair, on the member, she was responding.

01:21:34.180 And I thought rather complimentary that, in fact, those were untrue.

01:21:37.940 And she was defending that.

01:21:39.320 That's what he says.

01:21:40.040 I'll leave it as that.

01:21:41.540 Republican Daryl Issa.

01:21:42.880 You guys.

01:21:43.980 That's awesome.

01:21:44.860 Come on.

01:21:45.260 So good.

01:21:46.140 So good.

01:21:46.860 It's perfect.

01:21:48.160 What a mic drop.

01:21:49.680 She's quick on her feet.

01:21:51.320 I mean, she obviously is very talented.

01:21:53.800 And she has not lost any of that.

01:21:55.440 Her ability to answer and dodge and weave and take it right back to him is something to

01:22:01.940 behold.

01:22:02.660 And that was.

01:22:03.220 Truly.

01:22:04.480 It was a thing of beauty because she kept it.

01:22:07.860 She's stone cold.

01:22:09.380 She kept it professional.

01:22:10.580 She managed to work the insult into like a substantive response.

01:22:16.200 And the reply says, like, I thought it was complimentary.

01:22:18.400 She said it was untrue.

01:22:18.960 She straight up calls it calls a guy a homo in the middle of a congratulatory hearing.

01:22:23.940 And then it's like, but it's untrue, right?

01:22:25.540 I mean, you said it's untrue.

01:22:26.960 So maybe you could respond.

01:22:28.520 It would be so wrong.

01:22:29.400 Oh, if you couldn't correct it, it would be so wrong.

01:22:32.360 Right.

01:22:32.620 And it would be a shame to keep talking about this.

01:22:35.020 A lover rumor, which we all acknowledge should not be true.

01:22:38.420 Again, the gay lover rumor.

01:22:41.300 Is that on the record?

01:22:42.360 Official record.

01:22:43.040 OK, yeah.

01:22:44.260 Yeah.

01:22:44.780 I guess the other thing I really loved about it, Megan, like back to the whole common sense

01:22:49.700 thing.

01:22:51.460 Voice of America.

01:22:52.900 Well, maybe if you work there, you shouldn't hate America.

01:22:55.440 Yeah.

01:22:55.660 Like, is it's really that complicated?

01:22:57.900 Also, it's just so antiquated.

01:22:59.840 I mean, this is the thing with Doge.

01:23:01.380 And as it applies now to Voice of America and everything else, like it was built in a

01:23:05.800 time where radio was like the only way that you could get anything ever.

01:23:09.660 And you couldn't certainly get anything overseas.

01:23:11.480 Like, are you aware of the Internet, folks?

01:23:13.600 Right.

01:23:14.200 Like, why are we paying any money for this antiquated organization?

01:23:18.460 I got to give you one more.

01:23:20.160 Like she's remember her on the campaign trail, how effective she was, like the biased media

01:23:24.380 would get in her face.

01:23:25.260 And she's of the media.

01:23:26.600 You know, she was an anchor in Arizona for 25 years, I think.

01:23:29.860 And she was just so effective at slicing and dicing.

01:23:32.980 And she's still got it.

01:23:34.220 So here's Pramaya Jayapal, part of the squad, trying to come for her on her election denialism.

01:23:39.900 And she she was ready.

01:23:41.760 Watch.

01:23:42.940 I wanted to start just by confirming, do you support democracy or authoritarianism?

01:23:49.720 That's pretty obvious.

01:23:51.180 I support freedom and democracy.

01:23:53.200 Democracy.

01:23:54.060 Great.

01:23:54.320 Would you agree that accepting the results of a fair and free election are critical to

01:23:59.880 a functioning democracy?

01:24:01.420 Would you agree that standing up and cheering for a cancer survivor would have been a nice

01:24:06.320 thing to do?

01:24:06.920 Ms. Lake, this is my time.

01:24:08.440 OK.

01:24:08.900 Would you accept that accepting the results of a free and fair election are critical to

01:24:15.280 a functioning democracy?

01:24:16.320 It's a yes or no question.

01:24:17.520 Do you think it's essential for democracy to have a free and fair election?

01:24:21.340 We need free and fair elections.

01:24:22.600 Free and fair elections.

01:24:23.240 Great.

01:24:23.560 Thank you.

01:24:25.180 She's holding up a picture of of little Daniel, the guy who went who was made the honorary

01:24:31.840 secret service kid.

01:24:32.880 Would you agree that you should have stood for this cancer survivor?

01:24:36.280 You cretin.

01:24:37.580 I love that.

01:24:38.380 She brought the photo with her.

01:24:39.880 She has visual aids.

01:24:41.880 Oh, DJ Daniel is prepared, man.

01:24:44.940 Right.

01:24:45.260 It's just so nice.

01:24:46.500 You know how it is when you're a Republican or you're right of center.

01:24:49.180 You never get to see that.

01:24:51.020 You only get to see the leftist beat up on our people.

01:24:53.900 And usually they try to go high road.

01:24:56.160 It's just like in the era of Trump.

01:24:57.820 We're done with that.

01:24:59.020 It's wonderful.

01:25:00.340 It is wonderful.

01:25:00.800 It is wonderful.

01:25:02.040 It's nice to see.

01:25:03.040 Plus, the content is just extraordinary.

01:25:05.620 What a time to be doing shows.

01:25:07.440 Right.

01:25:08.260 Yes.

01:25:08.940 Wait, while we're doing it, why don't I give you this gift, too?

01:25:12.100 Because wait, do we have?

01:25:13.420 Yeah.

01:25:13.700 Brandon Gill.

01:25:14.460 Is he not our favorite?

01:25:15.560 Oh, the best.

01:25:16.960 So good.

01:25:17.720 Right.

01:25:18.340 Who doesn't love Brandon Gill?

01:25:19.420 Well, he was at it again.

01:25:20.620 Might as well spend a minute on him before we go to break.

01:25:22.240 He had Dr. Sean Harper there, who is a DEI lover.

01:25:27.420 And he was talking about how every every organization needs to have like representation in the same

01:25:32.500 proportion as the race or even fat people exist in America.

01:25:37.340 Like, literally, he was saying that, like, I mean, OK, so what is it?

01:25:41.520 The military need to have like 75 percent fat people because isn't the country like 75 percent

01:25:45.900 obese, whatever.

01:25:47.280 So that's this guy's hats come from a long line of them.

01:25:51.640 I'm allowed.

01:25:53.740 Again, my mom does not appreciate when I say that.

01:25:56.820 So Brandon Gill gets Dr. Sean Harper in front of him.

01:26:03.440 And here's a bit of that in SOC 27.

01:26:06.460 Which race do you think should be preferred?

01:26:10.400 I do not think that a single race should be preferred.

01:26:13.320 You just you just said that you believe that race should be considered in employer hiring

01:26:17.100 practices.

01:26:18.260 I don't know.

01:26:18.540 There's going to be a transcript of this hearing.

01:26:20.620 I didn't say that in that way.

01:26:22.960 OK, why don't you explain what you believe?

01:26:24.660 What I said and what I believe is that the demographic composition of workplaces, which

01:26:32.380 are our nation's military and so on, our Congress ought to reflect the diversity of the United

01:26:38.700 States of America.

01:26:39.680 The racial demographic composition, racial demographic.

01:26:41.640 Is that what you're saying?

01:26:42.780 Racial, gender.

01:26:44.420 OK, so race should be a factor in employer hiring practices.

01:26:49.680 Yet that's what you're saying, is it not?

01:26:51.280 Organizations ought to attempt to match the diversity of their.

01:26:55.680 You're hopping around the question.

01:26:56.840 No, I am answering quite straightforwardly as a matter of fact.

01:26:59.740 Who gets to determine which races are preferred?

01:27:04.460 I don't.

01:27:05.460 I already told you I don't have a single racial group.

01:27:08.720 You just told me that you believe that the demographic, the racial demographic makeup

01:27:12.280 should be taken into account in hiring practices.

01:27:14.860 And it should be reflected in all levels of companies and other organizations.

01:27:20.260 OK.

01:27:21.280 But who gets to decide?

01:27:22.720 He's got him.

01:27:23.800 Right?

01:27:26.300 I mean, the greatest part about all of this is just watching just the full compilation

01:27:30.380 that we've discussed is just dismantling this leftist argument that has never been challenged

01:27:35.720 in any serious way by media, by punditry, by lawmakers themselves.

01:27:40.440 And now you get to see it almost every day and their entire fallacy, everything that they

01:27:46.020 believe, all of these policies that they've foisted upon the American people just fall

01:27:51.820 like rocks.

01:27:53.220 Yeah.

01:27:53.460 We're going to end racism by doing a little bit of racism.

01:27:55.860 We have to.

01:27:56.460 It's important to do some racism while we're doing eliminating the racism.

01:27:59.800 Uh, OK.

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01:31:36.220 Okay, Mondami, he's won the Socialist for the Democratic nomination,

01:31:43.520 looking pretty good for winning the entire mayoral race.

01:31:46.540 However, two interesting things.

01:31:49.140 It appears that Cuomo is now out entirely.

01:31:51.860 He's not going to run as an independent.

01:31:53.760 And now there's growing pressure on Curtis Sliwa,

01:31:57.660 the Republican guardian angel, to drop out

01:32:00.400 because even though we love Curtis and it would be so nice

01:32:04.280 if a Republican could be the mayor, it's not going to happen.

01:32:07.060 He has no chance.

01:32:08.280 So there's pressure on him to get out

01:32:10.360 so that the city can coalesce behind Eric Adams,

01:32:16.580 who is the last best choice of stopping Mondami right now.

01:32:22.920 His relaunch at his campaign offices

01:32:25.520 has people lining up around the block in New York.

01:32:29.920 I mean, he's gotten a second life here.

01:32:34.100 What's going to happen?

01:32:35.280 And how did this happen?

01:32:36.480 The funniest take I saw on the internet about all of this was,

01:32:41.400 you know, we've all been concerned about the Islamic extremist reaction

01:32:46.080 and, you know, potential consequence to America

01:32:48.860 as a result of the Iranian bombing it.

01:32:51.020 We just didn't know it would come so quickly

01:32:52.600 in the form of a Democratic primary news study.

01:32:56.900 Yeah, this is a bad news deal,

01:32:59.200 but it's indicative of where the Democratic Party is.

01:33:02.660 Their energy is all behind not just somebody

01:33:05.800 who's totally unqualified to run a city like that,

01:33:08.040 but somebody whose ideas are so antithetical

01:33:10.540 to America in and of itself

01:33:13.500 and so off the left-hand side of the map.

01:33:16.300 But it's like they're killing themselves.

01:33:20.580 And I love it.

01:33:22.140 It's terrific.

01:33:23.120 So here's the thing is,

01:33:23.900 if you look at the breakdown of where he won,

01:33:26.460 Mondani won in New York City,

01:33:28.560 upper middle class and wealthy people

01:33:30.680 came out in droves to vote for him.

01:33:31.880 Yeah, look at his margins in Bed-Stuy and Bushwick.

01:33:34.760 Yeah.

01:33:35.000 You know, so like poor voters.

01:33:37.240 The blacks, the Hispanics and the working class

01:33:40.320 all went for Cuomo.

01:33:41.900 They did not vote for this guy.

01:33:43.440 It was the white college-educated graduate degree holders

01:33:47.520 across Manhattan and Brooklyn.

01:33:50.260 So this deranged kind of white guilt,

01:33:52.800 which has just gripped the progressive movement

01:33:55.340 of thinking that, well, white people are evil.

01:33:58.620 Capitalism is evil,

01:33:59.760 even though I have a place in the Upper East Side.

01:34:02.320 Capitalism is a horrible system.

01:34:03.980 Doesn't work for people,

01:34:04.920 even though, you know, from Park Ave,

01:34:06.820 I go shopping on Madison every day.

01:34:08.680 It's a wonderful system for me.

01:34:09.820 But I think we need a communist.

01:34:12.540 They get what they deserve.

01:34:13.980 They're going to get what they deserve.

01:34:15.640 I, you know, for so many folks,

01:34:17.760 Megan, yourself included,

01:34:18.600 who no longer live in New York,

01:34:19.980 don't have a place in there.

01:34:21.300 You see what they've done.

01:34:22.320 It just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.

01:34:24.200 They really whittled down the old talent pool of candidates, right?

01:34:27.480 I mean, we was basically down to a choice

01:34:29.200 between a guy who killed your grandmother

01:34:30.780 and a socialist psychopath.

01:34:34.060 Or, you know, or the current guy,

01:34:35.940 which is like no bucket of fruit either.

01:34:37.760 I know.

01:34:38.640 It reminds me of, back in the day,

01:34:40.980 CNN, I'm going to screw this up,

01:34:42.620 but CNN launched a competitor to The Five.

01:34:45.460 Roger had come up with The Five,

01:34:47.180 and as he likes to say,

01:34:48.280 people thought that, liked to say,

01:34:50.920 people thought he named it that

01:34:52.180 because it had five hosts,

01:34:53.640 but he says, I named it that

01:34:54.960 because that's about how long it took me to think it up.

01:34:57.520 That he'd have five hosts on at five,

01:35:00.020 hosting a news program,

01:35:00.960 and it's hugely successful.

01:35:03.300 I think it's still the number one show on cable news.

01:35:05.480 And CNN decided to try to do the same thing,

01:35:08.860 and they came up with,

01:35:10.080 they have no original ideas.

01:35:11.840 So they came up with their own group

01:35:13.300 that was going to go like across from this group.

01:35:15.620 And if memory serves,

01:35:16.900 it was like Van Jones and Essie Cup.

01:35:23.060 And I can't remember who the others were,

01:35:24.900 but I remember Roger's like, my God.

01:35:26.960 He's like, they've got an atheist.

01:35:28.760 They've got a communist.

01:35:29.980 They've got like a Marxist.

01:35:31.180 I can't remember the other one.

01:35:31.960 And he's like, so far, I'm rooting for the communist.

01:35:36.100 Anyway, it's kind of the situation New Yorkers are in,

01:35:39.680 in looking at these candidates.

01:35:41.880 Like, I think I want the corrupt one

01:35:43.900 who just takes money from Egypt, allegedly.

01:35:46.540 Yeah, I mean, like, you look at New York City,

01:35:48.460 like, you know, how America looks at a place

01:35:50.500 like Syria during the Civil War.

01:35:52.260 It's like, we need to fund

01:35:53.200 the moderate New Yorkers on the ground.

01:35:58.020 Right.

01:35:58.640 I know, it's true.

01:35:59.620 It's like, well,

01:36:01.040 I was talking to somebody about Syria the other day,

01:36:03.300 and it's like, you know,

01:36:04.920 it was taken over by Al-Qaeda,

01:36:06.660 but they don't seem that Al-Qaeda-y.

01:36:08.620 So, you know, fingers crossed.

01:36:11.660 This is, these are not good positions to be in.

01:36:14.320 So, you tell me,

01:36:16.120 because, like, there's a debate playing out

01:36:17.720 about whether this guy Mandami

01:36:18.900 is a reflection of, like,

01:36:20.920 too much illegal immigration

01:36:22.060 and no, people don't assimilate

01:36:23.840 and they bring their values

01:36:25.480 and then the white working,

01:36:27.580 the white upper class

01:36:28.560 that has the white guilt,

01:36:29.680 you know, buying into all those messages

01:36:31.420 and this coalition is born.

01:36:33.140 And then there's another line of thinking

01:36:35.880 that's more something you might hear

01:36:38.240 from a Steve Bannon, you know,

01:36:39.440 which is, like,

01:36:40.400 it's the left's populist uprising.

01:36:42.680 These young people can't buy homes

01:36:44.780 and they can't get a decent job

01:36:47.060 and they can't make it

01:36:48.760 without both the mom and the dad working

01:36:50.660 and they just, they want a revolution.

01:36:52.480 They want to burn shit down

01:36:53.680 and the socialist message

01:36:54.840 of just taxing the billionaires

01:36:56.280 is extremely attractive.

01:36:58.660 And so, and by the way,

01:37:00.080 those people have never lived

01:37:01.320 during the New York of the 1970s

01:37:03.260 or late 80s,

01:37:03.920 so they've totally forgotten

01:37:04.900 what these leftist policies actually lead to.

01:37:07.560 So, what do you think?

01:37:08.220 I think, I think that the second thing

01:37:11.480 that you mentioned,

01:37:12.140 I think there's some validity to that.

01:37:13.900 There are people who don't see any path

01:37:15.860 to buy their own home out there

01:37:17.540 off the left-hand side,

01:37:19.040 but you don't need to put your hopes

01:37:21.660 in a guy that's going to take away your guns

01:37:23.780 and control the food flow into Manhattan.

01:37:27.080 Everything that he is talking about

01:37:29.240 is going to turn Manhattan into Gaza

01:37:31.900 and they're going to start shooting rockets

01:37:34.000 from Flatiron into Williamsburg.

01:37:36.460 This guy is absolutely insane

01:37:39.580 and he is not the only leftist out there.

01:37:42.740 There has to be somebody else

01:37:44.240 who is literally not going to get rid of the cops,

01:37:47.620 not get, like, everything he's talking about,

01:37:50.160 that doesn't put somebody in a home.

01:37:53.220 Yeah.

01:37:53.520 It's also indicative of this larger lack of leadership

01:37:56.380 within the Democratic Party

01:37:57.680 in and of itself, right?

01:37:59.080 I mean, both political parties

01:38:00.400 from time to time have been captured

01:38:02.140 by this, like, super radical,

01:38:03.780 totally inconsistent with where the center

01:38:06.360 of the country is type movement.

01:38:07.940 It's full of energy for a variety of different reasons,

01:38:11.240 but always there's somebody that provides

01:38:13.460 some leadership to try to, like, recapitalize that

01:38:15.860 and make sure that, no, these are good policies.

01:38:18.800 Like, you don't need a clinically insane person

01:38:21.080 to lead you down the road

01:38:22.700 in order to have, you know,

01:38:24.060 what it is that you're all really looking for.

01:38:25.940 I think Donald Trump's done a lot of that

01:38:27.220 within the Republican Party.

01:38:28.360 But if you look around at, like, Chuck Schumer

01:38:30.200 in the home state here, Chuck Schumer

01:38:31.860 and Hakeem Jeffries,

01:38:33.300 they're the first ones who are just dodging all of this,

01:38:36.300 right?

01:38:36.880 A real leader would sit there and be like,

01:38:38.680 look, we're not going to get rid of the NYPD,

01:38:41.360 which is what this guy is campaigning on.

01:38:43.960 Clearly, that's not something that Democrats believe in,

01:38:46.660 except he can't say it, and he won't say it,

01:38:48.940 which is how this has grown within the Democratic Party.

01:38:52.320 Yeah, so one thing I would add.

01:38:53.740 Bill Clinton is congratulating him.

01:38:54.760 That's another thing Bill Clinton weighed in on

01:38:56.880 rather than our troops' victory

01:38:58.640 and seems to be all in on this guy.

01:39:02.720 Notwithstanding what we just said,

01:39:03.820 Bill Clinton doesn't want the prisons open

01:39:05.400 and the cops gone.

01:39:06.580 Go ahead, Duncan.

01:39:07.900 Well, and neither do the lower-income

01:39:11.840 and middle-income voters of New York.

01:39:14.860 Like, if there was this really,

01:39:16.440 this left-wing populism idea that is so popular,

01:39:19.940 you would think the New Yorkers

01:39:21.220 who are struggling the most would have voted for it.

01:39:23.040 Yeah, that's right.

01:39:23.300 But they didn't.

01:39:23.840 They voted for Cuomo, right?

01:39:25.540 It was the affluent, the wealthy,

01:39:27.440 over $100,000 a year who were voting for this guy.

01:39:30.180 So I think it's more just the luxury beliefs of people

01:39:32.960 who, like, don't actually have to worry about,

01:39:35.200 well, you abolish prisons, you know,

01:39:36.840 you're going to let all the criminals out in the street.

01:39:38.200 But, you know, I live 100 floors up,

01:39:40.180 so it doesn't matter to me.

01:39:41.160 This has become the base of the Democratic Party.

01:39:43.460 Yep.

01:39:44.960 Doorman building, security,

01:39:47.500 possibly an iron fence around my doorman building.

01:39:50.480 They can't get to me.

01:39:51.480 And on the Upper East Side,

01:39:53.020 where my children go to private school,

01:39:54.460 we'll have no problems no matter what I vote for.

01:39:56.760 That's why you get nutcases like Cynthia Nixon.

01:39:58.100 That's my thing is I hope Zoran can mobilize his supporters

01:40:01.000 to actually storm the doorman building.

01:40:02.980 That's what it's going to take.

01:40:05.220 Yeah, that is what it's going to take.

01:40:06.820 Well, that's, a lot of people are saying that,

01:40:08.500 like, let's let them see

01:40:11.000 what the natural consequences of this decision are.

01:40:14.420 Let's not save them from 1970s New York.

01:40:16.560 Let's watch them experience it.

01:40:18.040 It's sad to me.

01:40:18.860 I mean, we moved right outside of New York,

01:40:21.340 and it's like, I still love New York,

01:40:23.140 and we go into New York,

01:40:24.700 and I want my kids to be able to go there

01:40:26.580 and your kids to be able to go there

01:40:27.800 and watch a Broadway show

01:40:28.820 and not worry about getting shot in the face.

01:40:30.900 It's just, it's, this is a dark moment

01:40:33.520 for the city and the country,

01:40:35.160 and I, for the Democrat Party,

01:40:36.980 I don't, I don't know what their future looks like.

01:40:39.100 In any event, not a dark moment for the fellas,

01:40:41.680 because we always have things to talk about.

01:40:43.900 It's great to see you guys.

01:40:45.380 Great to see you, Megan.

01:40:46.060 Thank you so much.

01:40:46.700 Thanks for having us.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 26, 2025

Hegseth's Media Mic Drop on Iran Strikes, ＂Daddy＂ Trump, and Mamdani's White Guilt Win, with Ruthless Hosts ｜ Ep. 1096

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