The Megyn Kelly Show - Hegseth vs. ＂Fat＂ Generals, and Coates' Hateful Lies About Charlie Kirk, with Stu Burguiere, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1160

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. So much to get to today.

00:00:16.620 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth this morning calling out fat generals and admirals.

00:00:23.740 Literally announcing new physical fitness standards for the military. I'm totally here for it.

00:00:30.000 Plus, you will not believe, well you will, you will actually, what Ta-Nehisi Coates said about Charlie Kirk.

00:00:37.040 It's so bad it actually got our pal Mark Halperin to drop a couple of F-bombs. You don't hear that every day.

00:00:43.300 We begin today with Stu Bergeer, host of Blaze TV's Stu Does America.

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00:01:54.760 Stu, welcome back. How are you doing?

00:01:56.680 I'm doing very well. Thank you so much, Megan. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

00:01:59.900 So, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth gathers all the generals and the admirals in Washington

00:02:07.240 and made really clear that we are in, it's the dawn of a new day, is basically what he said.

00:02:15.920 Here's an overview. We'll start with top three.

00:02:21.000 From this moment forward, the only mission of the newly restored Department of War is this.

00:02:26.980 Warfighting. Preparing for war and preparing to win. Unrelenting and uncompromising in that pursuit.

00:02:37.900 Not because we want war. No one here wants war. But it's because we love peace.

00:02:44.920 We love peace for our fellow citizens. They deserve peace. And they rightfully expect us to deliver it.

00:02:52.920 Right on. So, he, among other things, said, we are returning to, when it comes to combat roles,

00:03:03.200 the standards that were in place before when it comes to height and weight, and male, male standards.

00:03:10.760 And what he said was that, at my direction, each service will ensure that every requirement

00:03:15.260 for every combat military occupational specialty, for every designated combat arms position,

00:03:22.160 returns to the highest male standard only.

00:03:25.680 Because this job is life or death.

00:03:28.740 That's when he got to how fat everybody is.

00:03:31.280 We'll play that here.

00:03:33.040 I think it's, I think it's top four.

00:03:36.420 Frankly, it's tiring to look out at combat formations, or really any formation,

00:03:40.900 and see fat troops.

00:03:44.020 Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon,

00:03:48.840 and leading commands around the country and the world.

00:03:51.080 It's a bad look.

00:03:52.300 It is bad, and it's not who we are.

00:03:55.280 So, whether you're an airborne ranger or a chair-borne ranger,

00:03:58.980 a brand-new private or a four-star general,

00:04:01.560 you need to meet the height and weight standards and pass your PT test.

00:04:04.540 Simply put, if you do not meet the male-level physical standards for combat positions,

00:04:08.820 cannot pass a PT test, or don't want to shave and look professional,

00:04:13.200 it's time for a new position.

00:04:15.240 Or, a new profession.

00:04:18.540 Right on, Stu.

00:04:20.160 Get out.

00:04:21.100 If you're fat, you can do my job. 0.96

00:04:23.500 But you can't do that job.

00:04:25.060 You shouldn't be doing that job.

00:04:26.400 Physical fitness matters in the military.

00:04:28.120 It always has, anyway.

00:04:29.420 Only in the more recent years have we relaxed it to the point where anybody

00:04:32.520 who's morbidly obese and wants a steady paycheck can join the military.

00:04:36.520 He's talking about, for combat roles in particular,

00:04:39.460 the standards are going to go way up.

00:04:41.460 But for everybody, no more obese people roaming the halls of the Pentagon,

00:04:46.820 not the people who are supposed to be in command of our armed forces.

00:04:49.120 What do you make of it?

00:04:50.500 Well, the way that you said that felt a little personal to me, first of all, Megan.

00:04:55.160 You feel attacked?

00:04:56.320 Well, you know, here's the thing.

00:04:58.600 I shouldn't be in the military.

00:05:00.000 I am not in good enough shape to be in the military.

00:05:02.680 You don't want me leading your fighting.

00:05:04.500 I'm in fine shape, but I'm not strong enough.

00:05:07.840 I'm not strong enough.

00:05:08.960 I don't belong there.

00:05:10.060 No man should have his life in my scrawny arms hands.

00:05:14.700 This is the thing.

00:05:15.740 It's like these are supposed to be the most exceptional people in the world as a fighting

00:05:20.980 force, right?

00:05:21.720 And that's what we demand out of our military.

00:05:24.380 It's what we expect out of our military.

00:05:26.200 At least that's what Pete seems to expect out of our military.

00:05:29.780 And that's a good thing.

00:05:30.840 We should have these high standards.

00:05:32.360 They should be not gender specific standards.

00:05:35.900 They should be.

00:05:36.640 Are you strong enough?

00:05:37.960 Can you do these things?

00:05:39.840 You know, I was as Pete was going up on stage.

00:05:43.780 I was talking to my female producer whose in-depth commentary on his speech was he's hot. 0.98

00:05:49.300 And, you know, look, I don't know.

00:05:51.940 Maybe he is.

00:05:53.120 But, like, the guy's in good shape.

00:05:54.820 He's a good front-facing person for our military.

00:05:58.480 And I'm sure there are people in that room who are generals who are like, you know, maybe hitting the yodels a little bit too much.

00:06:04.480 That should change.

00:06:05.680 We should have a military that provides an image of the most elite fighting force in the world.

00:06:13.520 It shouldn't all be the fact that we have the most money and the most technology.

00:06:17.240 We should have the best people set to the highest standards.

00:06:19.820 And that's seemingly what Hexeth wants here.

00:06:22.640 Exactly right.

00:06:23.500 Look, you can go, as I always say to staff who work here, if you don't want to ever be called in on an evening or on a weekend or over a holiday for breaking news, go work at KeyBank.

00:06:34.280 It's a wonderful place.

00:06:35.540 You work 9 to 4, steady hours.

00:06:37.560 You don't really have weekends.

00:06:38.820 You never have to work a holiday.

00:06:40.020 You're good.

00:06:40.780 You've got to give the wonderful options for you.

00:06:42.420 But if you want to work in news, your life's going to be topsy-turvy at times.

00:06:45.900 And by the way, you're always expected to be looking at the news, morning, noon, evening, and night.

00:06:50.680 That's just the nature of our business.

00:06:52.160 If you don't have a Jones for that, like Pete said, find a different profession.

00:06:55.680 There's so many out there.

00:06:56.780 Go with God.

00:06:58.520 But if you want to serve in the American Armed Forces, you should have to be in shape.

00:07:05.280 There should be a bare minimum of fitness.

00:07:07.920 And Pete is living.

00:07:09.420 He's practicing what he preaches.

00:07:10.900 Now, this came as very unfortunate news for the women of The View.

00:07:17.860 You're shocked, I know, given the elite form that the women are in over on that set. 1.00

00:07:24.860 But I think everyone was asking themselves, what does Joy Behar think?

00:07:29.240 And I have the answer.

00:07:30.000 The newly renamed Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, spoke to U.S. military leaders from around the world to lay out his very retro vision for our armed forces.

00:07:41.000 Why is he obsessed with fat?

00:07:46.160 Yeah, and fitness.

00:07:47.660 Gee.

00:07:48.080 Fat, yeah, and fitness.

00:07:51.960 Add Sonny Hauston's too.

00:07:55.700 I mean, what do you mean why?

00:07:58.700 We're talking about a military here.

00:08:01.180 We're talking about a fighting force.

00:08:03.140 Like, this is quite – you're going to be intimidated by people that look like me.

00:08:07.560 That's the problem.

00:08:08.320 You don't want that in your military.

00:08:09.780 You want someone who's going to step up and provide that image.

00:08:13.540 And at the very least, you know, obviously the weight is what's going to make all the headlines here.

00:08:18.880 But really what that's about is discipline, right?

00:08:21.680 It's about having discipline and drive.

00:08:25.940 And those things are all achievable, at least for the vast majority of us, if we put in enough time.

00:08:31.260 I know there's been times in my life where – it's hard to believe – I was actually in halfway decent shape.

00:08:35.940 That was because at that time, I put in the effort.

00:08:38.660 I made sure I skipped dessert.

00:08:40.320 I made sure maybe I didn't order that second appetizer.

00:08:43.460 You know, that's supposed to be something that we're kind of putting out there, I think, as a military to say not only are we in shape, which is obviously vitally important when it comes to a fighting force, but also that we're disciplined, that we're doing everything that we can to put forward an attitude of discipline and something that is going to be the desire of the world.

00:09:01.520 I want people to look at us and, you know, you think about like the old Soviet military.

00:09:04.660 You know, just all fat generals and their guts are hanging out.

00:09:08.500 Like that's what I picture from every movie about that era.

00:09:12.400 That is not what we want to portray.

00:09:15.240 And I think bringing everybody in instead of doing it over a Zoom call is sort of like the difference between sending your kids to school and sending them to virtual COVID school, right?

00:09:25.940 It's easy to hear that speech over a computer while you're in Afghanistan somewhere and you're like, all right, when is this going to be over? 0.95

00:09:31.820 Having to make that trip across the world and to sit down there and have to listen to that in person.

00:09:38.180 This is a real priority.

00:09:39.680 This isn't just a joke.

00:09:40.800 It's not about just shaving your beard.

00:09:42.460 It's about a standard that we're trying to set.

00:09:44.600 And I think the message was actually received.

00:09:47.160 Yes.

00:09:47.600 Get your act together.

00:09:49.760 If not, key bank.

00:09:51.680 It's wonderful.

00:09:52.820 You get to sit all day.

00:09:54.420 You have set hours.

00:09:55.540 Nobody says a word about your physique.

00:09:58.840 And if they do, you probably have a civil lawsuit against them.

00:10:01.980 Different story in the military.

00:10:04.580 Here's one more from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.

00:10:08.380 Sot 5.

00:10:09.640 This administration has done a great deal from day one to remove the social justice, politically correct and toxic ideological garbage that had infected our department.

00:10:20.120 To rip out the politics. 0.87

00:10:24.640 No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses.

00:10:31.520 No more climate change worship.

00:10:33.620 No more division, distraction or gender delusions.

00:10:37.020 No more debris.

00:10:39.020 As I've said before and will say again, we are done with that shit.

00:10:44.260 Oh, my God.

00:10:46.100 I love him.

00:10:47.440 That's exactly what he's there for, Stu.

00:10:50.600 That's what Trump wanted him for.

00:10:53.240 That's what I wanted him for.

00:10:54.840 That, among other things.

00:10:55.960 But he's living it.

00:10:57.380 We're done with it.

00:10:58.140 All we care about is readiness, preparedness.

00:11:01.540 Stop focusing on the damn climate and white rage, which is what we had for four years under Joe Biden.

00:11:08.540 Mm-hmm.

00:11:09.980 Yeah.

00:11:10.380 This is the clip that I had sent to me from multiple friends that were in the military previously.

00:11:15.580 This is the one.

00:11:16.540 Because they are – this is what they wanted.

00:11:18.540 This is what they were cheering for while they were there.

00:11:20.720 We had a guy who works here, one of our producers who's in the military, who literally stood up and cheered when he said this.

00:11:26.500 Because we do have the best fighting force in the world, and they just want to be unleashed.

00:11:31.260 They want to be unleashed to be able to do the things that they signed up to do, to work for the freedom of the American people, to extend the vision of our founders into today.

00:11:41.640 And instead, we're worried about a 0.9-degree temperature rise over a century.

00:11:46.380 We're worried about whether gender issues are going to be respected, whether pronouns, the correct pronouns, are going to be used.

00:11:54.960 That's not what our military is for.

00:11:56.760 However, the only thing our military should care about is merit and winning.

00:12:01.980 Those are the things that they should care about.

00:12:03.740 And that is what we're trying to refocus, I guess, our country on.

00:12:08.000 I think Trump set that goal at the beginning.

00:12:10.320 People question Pete's initial pick when they selected him.

00:12:16.040 I heard – I remember talking to you about this at the time.

00:12:18.820 They derided him as, oh, he's just a Fox News host.

00:12:21.440 Well, I mean, I don't know.

00:12:23.200 That's, first of all, ridiculous.

00:12:24.440 He has a lot of military experience.

00:12:26.040 We talked about that at the time.

00:12:27.660 But the fact that he's able to communicate like this is a real positive for our military, for this vision.

00:12:34.640 It's not just about having, you know, checking the boxes on a piece of paper of what experience you have.

00:12:40.220 No, who did Lloyd Austin inspire?

00:12:43.520 No one.

00:12:44.660 Can you remember a single speech or comment he made in four years?

00:12:50.040 I'm sorry, but he was not inspirational.

00:12:51.700 There's Pete out there speaking face-to-face with these generals and these admirals and living it himself.

00:12:57.660 Every day we see one of those fitness videos posted by Pete where he's training with the troops, with the rank and file, the war fighters, as he calls them, showing them, I'm not above anything.

00:13:07.980 I will do exactly what you do.

00:13:09.360 I won't ask you to do anything more than I ask of myself.

00:13:13.320 Now, the commander in chief is the one member of the military who does not need to be totally ship shape on his fitness.

00:13:21.680 I'm not sure the message goes up.

00:13:25.060 I think it only goes down.

00:13:26.700 But Trump is totally in line with what Pete is saying.

00:13:29.820 And here he was because he spoke after Pete in Satwan.

00:13:33.900 We're bringing back a focus on fitness, ability, character and strength.

00:13:38.760 And it's because the purposes of American military is not to protect anyone's feelings.

00:13:44.940 It's to protect our republic.

00:13:48.020 And it's the republic that we dearly love.

00:13:50.440 It's to protect our country.

00:13:52.640 We will not be politically correct when it comes to defending American freedom.

00:13:58.400 And we will be a fighting and winning machine.

00:14:01.300 We want to fight.

00:14:01.940 We want to win.

00:14:03.080 And we want to fight as little as possible.

00:14:04.840 You have to count on people like me to keep you out of wars because we don't want to go into war.

00:14:10.360 How many videos did we have during Biden of trans service members putting on their drag queen eyelashes, makeup and dresses like from their military uniform and asking us to celebrate that?

00:14:26.060 How many military recruiting videos did we have of like, my mom's a black lesbian and I'm a lesbian and I'm in the CIA or I'm now in some sort of, you know, intelligence service or military service?

00:14:37.200 That's they were all about the DEI during Joe Biden.

00:14:41.540 We didn't that which explains a lot about our withdrawal from Afghanistan and the way we were prioritizing our military.

00:14:47.320 This it's just this is huge.

00:14:49.260 It's the dawn of a new day.

00:14:50.380 He's only been in office for eight months.

00:14:52.200 He's been tearing these things down bit by bit.

00:14:54.700 And today was the official like, get off your ass.

00:14:58.240 We're not going to be lazy about this anymore.

00:15:00.400 I really mean it now.

00:15:02.660 Yeah.

00:15:03.240 Yeah.

00:15:03.540 I mean, as you were painting that picture, it reminded me of of the videos that you had mentioned with Pete Hegseth out there.

00:15:09.540 The other guy in a lot of those videos was RFK Jr., right?

00:15:11.980 Our health secretary also in his 70s, able to do these ridiculous things.

00:15:15.860 And we've gone to from a guy in jeans doing pull ups and push ups as the HHS secretary.

00:15:22.680 Before that, it was a guy in a we had guys in dresses and and and people who were not even certain of what gender they were telling us health advice.

00:15:32.400 Like, yes, the change that we had.

00:15:34.600 And I really think you highlighted a great part of of the Trump dynamic here, which is he is pretty, pretty much averse to to going to war.

00:15:45.420 Like he he is a guy who really wants to keep us out.

00:15:48.780 He's been bragging about ending seven wars.

00:15:50.880 He's made endless efforts in in both Israel and Russia to try to end those conflicts.

00:15:55.340 He really that really is his goal.

00:15:57.800 But it's it's that classic peace through strength combination where we have that military that's going to be so incredibly intimidating.

00:16:05.560 If you cross us, it's there.

00:16:07.740 We will use it if necessary.

00:16:09.460 But we're going to do what we can to avoid using it.

00:16:12.260 And that combination, I think, you know, people, you know, there's this conflict on the right about whether, you know, Reagan's time is gone.

00:16:19.160 But Reagan and Trump have similar messages there.

00:16:21.760 They both either one of them, I think, wanted war, but they did want to have that peace through strength combination.

00:16:27.940 And I think that's what Trump's trying to bring here.

00:16:30.500 And I believe this is the right way to do it.

00:16:32.300 Well, there was another surprising moment today when President Trump spoke in a rare, seldom seen moment.

00:16:40.640 He had some praise for Barack Obama.

00:16:44.580 Watch this.

00:16:46.120 So one thing with Obama, I had zero respect for him as a president, but he would bop down those stairs.

00:16:51.780 I've never seen that.

00:16:54.900 You go down the stairs, wouldn't hold on.

00:16:56.780 I said, it's great.

00:16:58.120 I don't want to do it.

00:16:58.860 I guess I could do it.

00:16:59.780 But eventually, bad things are going to happen.

00:17:03.200 And it only takes once.

00:17:05.200 But he did a lousy job as president.

00:17:10.080 But he bopped down those stairs still.

00:17:12.320 That's nice.

00:17:13.020 He found something positive to say.

00:17:15.480 That's nice.

00:17:16.220 First of all, the guy's just funny.

00:17:18.080 People are so caught up in calling him a fascist and everything.

00:17:22.660 It's constant.

00:17:23.560 But, like, when you step back and you just appreciate him as an entertainer, he's just a funny guy.

00:17:29.460 And I will say, you know, he's been very complimentary to Barack Obama.

00:17:33.900 I saw that line of presidential photos.

00:17:36.200 I know it was the auto pen for Joe Biden, but Barack got a very nice photo there.

00:17:39.740 So I don't know.

00:17:40.680 Maybe there's some bipartisan coming together on that front.

00:17:43.860 Well, in Trump's defense, that was the nicest photo of Joe Biden I've ever seen.

00:17:48.160 Yes.

00:17:48.480 The nicest and most accurate.

00:17:51.120 Looked better there than we've seen him in years.

00:17:53.660 For a listening audience not aware, it was the picture of the auto pen.

00:17:57.060 Okay.

00:17:57.640 Do we think this is funny?

00:17:59.000 Because it was clearly meant in humor.

00:18:01.080 But the president's critics are saying it's racist.

00:18:05.100 We're possibly going into a government shutdown tonight at midnight.

00:18:08.740 They almost always stave them off.

00:18:10.260 They get everybody all exercised.

00:18:11.720 And at the last minute, both sides decide it's not worth it.

00:18:14.180 We'll see whether this is yet another time like that.

00:18:16.900 So they had a meeting, Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader in the House, and Chuck Schumer,

00:18:21.620 Democratic leader in the Senate, with the White House.

00:18:24.140 And it didn't go very well because after it was over, one of the sticking points is Trump

00:18:29.480 says that they want, they're holding out for health care and payments for illegals that 0.55

00:18:34.220 he does not want to fund.

00:18:36.800 And so after they left, Trump posted an AI video of Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer in this AI

00:18:43.360 video for the listening audience, we're about to show Hakeem Jeffries is wearing a sombrero

00:18:47.740 and is like disguised as a Mexican.

00:18:50.600 And Schumer is saying stuff that he didn't actually say.

00:18:54.040 Here it is in Sot 7.

00:18:56.020 Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.

00:18:59.020 Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

00:19:00.900 We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. 1.00

00:19:04.400 Not even black people want to vote for us anymore. 0.95

00:19:06.980 Even Latinos hate us. 0.95

00:19:08.540 So we need new voters.

00:19:09.700 And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them 1.00

00:19:16.220 on our side so they can vote for us.

00:19:18.040 They can't even speak English.

00:19:19.680 So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at least

00:19:25.400 for a while until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.

00:19:28.900 Okay, so this is predictably causing a meltdown on the left.

00:19:36.580 Hakeem Jeffries went on last word with Lawrence O'Donnell last night.

00:19:41.220 They were both appalled.

00:19:42.620 Watch.

00:19:42.840 I'm not showing this video that Donald Trump put out about you and Chuck Schumer today.

00:19:49.420 This fake video.

00:19:50.360 People are going to see it.

00:19:51.300 They'll see it in other ways.

00:19:52.860 It's easy to find.

00:19:54.460 But it is absolutely disgusting in every way.

00:19:58.900 It is a lie.

00:20:00.240 It's the man you met with has now lied about what you said after that meeting.

00:20:05.940 Could you give us your reaction to that Trump posted video tonight?

00:20:11.580 It's a disgusting video and we're going to continue to make clear bigotry will get you

00:20:17.020 nowhere.

00:20:17.660 We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an

00:20:23.660 unprecedented Republican assault on all the things Medicaid, Medicare, the Affordable

00:20:29.980 Care Act.

00:20:30.680 Republicans are closing our hospitals, nursing homes and community based health clinics and

00:20:35.560 have effectively shut down medical research in the United States of America.

00:20:42.120 Eh, bigotry?

00:20:44.480 At the lower third reads, Trump posts racist AI video.

00:20:48.920 Disgusting bigotry.

00:20:50.680 They both agree.

00:20:51.540 So bigoted that MSNBC won't even show it.

00:20:55.840 And they are the most racist channel on television.

00:20:59.200 That's obviously Joy Reid's platform and the crazy guy who's, why am I forgetting the

00:21:05.540 nation's correspondent?

00:21:07.140 Who's the most racist man on television?

00:21:10.040 Ellie Mistal.

00:21:11.460 We could go down the list.

00:21:12.920 That lunatic Tiffany Cross, who was there in the morning. 0.99

00:21:16.140 They're all right.

00:21:17.140 That's the most racist channel on television.

00:21:19.860 Two races for them, Stu.

00:21:21.460 Shocking.

00:21:22.720 Yeah, that was shocking.

00:21:24.300 I can't believe.

00:21:25.040 And you played it, Megan.

00:21:26.080 I can't believe you.

00:21:27.420 Even when MSNBC.

00:21:28.620 Proceeding with abandon.

00:21:29.800 I saw CNN say the exact same thing.

00:21:32.220 Trump posts racist video.

00:21:33.400 And when I actually saw it first on CNN looking for some other ridiculous story, I'm sure.

00:21:39.180 And I was like, well, what is this?

00:21:41.180 You know, you click on it and it's, you know, he's wearing a Mexican. 0.59

00:21:44.320 He's wearing a sombrero and he's got a fake mustache.

00:21:46.760 Like that.

00:21:47.800 That is what we're supposed to be so shocked.

00:21:49.900 They won't.

00:21:50.440 That's so devastating to them.

00:21:52.100 They can't show you a sombrero photoshopped onto a congressman.

00:21:58.340 It's so ridiculous.

00:21:59.360 And I will say there are a couple of different versions of Democrats, right?

00:22:04.380 Democrats have every, you know, not every, but most successful actors, right?

00:22:10.380 They have most successful entertainers.

00:22:12.800 They have tons and tons of really high profile comedians who draw massive audiences.

00:22:18.700 That is one version of what the Democrats can present.

00:22:22.800 Then there's this version where they act like they're offended at an AI video.

00:22:28.220 And that's the one I hope they keep.

00:22:30.220 I want them to keep going down that road.

00:22:32.420 I want them to keep thinking that they're going to convince people to vote for them by harassing them and telling them they can't make jokes.

00:22:40.800 And go back.

00:22:41.480 Try all your woke stuff again.

00:22:43.140 We've seen how well that works for you.

00:22:44.980 Keep canceling people because they decided to have a laugh on a Tuesday afternoon.

00:22:50.700 That's a type of Democrat that I think most voters can't stand.

00:22:54.080 They don't want a Karen as their political parties.

00:22:59.140 And, like, I think if they keep going down that road, it's nothing but good for the country because people will see through that.

00:23:04.760 And I think that nonsense does not work anymore.

00:23:06.920 The video has 19 million views so far online from the White House account.

00:23:13.840 That's effective.

00:23:14.880 That's what you call effective.

00:23:16.240 It's very hard to get most people to look at, comment at, and replay a White House video on the government shutdown.

00:23:23.780 One of the most potentially boring stories ever for the reasons I stated earlier.

00:23:27.960 They always have this brinksmanship.

00:23:29.240 And then it almost, oh, 99% of the time, it does not result in a shutdown.

00:23:33.300 So it's like, all right, we've seen this film how many times before?

00:23:36.460 This did it.

00:23:37.660 This, and, like, literally, how is it racist?

00:23:40.700 What it's trying to say is that the Democrats want to benefit illegals from south of the border.

00:23:47.940 That's who they care about.

00:23:49.620 How is that untrue?

00:23:50.860 And how would you depict somebody south of the border in the most quick and visual way?

00:23:56.740 Yeah, a sombrero, that will do it.

00:23:58.800 With the big mustache, I knew exactly what country he was talking about, what region of the country.

00:24:03.440 And that's where most of these immigrants came from, who these Democrats are defending.

00:24:07.840 I mean, truly, like, how is it pejorative to Mexicans in general?

00:24:12.720 It just shows they'd rather be in our country, as evidenced by the fact that they flocked here by the millions and now refuse to leave.

00:24:19.020 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:21.260 The same way that if the Democrats were making a parody video and they wanted to talk about some Trump supporter, they'd throw him in a red hat and they'd have him swigging a beer.

00:24:30.200 And they'd, you know, like, it's the same thing.

00:24:31.820 It's not, I wouldn't be offended by that.

00:24:34.060 We get it.

00:24:34.860 I understand it.

00:24:35.700 And, like, at the end of the day, what they're, what the parody there is not of Mexicans.

00:24:40.560 It's not even of illegal immigrants.

00:24:42.240 What the parody of, I think he's going for there, is to show how they are transparent in what they're trying to do.

00:24:49.780 They're constantly looking to play to whatever audience is in front of them, whatever thing they need to say at any given time.

00:24:57.540 They will play down to the audience.

00:25:00.060 They will, you know, try to, this is what they're doing with the illegal immigrant health care thing right now.

00:25:04.300 They're trying to buy racial minority voters. 0.97

00:25:07.900 They're trying to bring those people back to them.

00:25:09.520 They're trying to act as if the other side is racist.

00:25:12.360 They will say anything they have to say at any given moment when it benefits them.

00:25:17.900 That is the decision-making process for the left.

00:25:20.340 When they, you know, it's, you know, when it's, it's all about individual rights when it comes to abortion because it's the one time they care about individual rights.

00:25:27.760 They will say anything they need to say.

00:25:30.300 And in this situation, they don't have much they can go for here.

00:25:33.540 We've watched these shutdown politics over and over again.

00:25:35.880 As you point out, almost all the time it doesn't happen.

00:25:38.140 This time might be different just because the AOC left is there on Chuck Schumer's behind and may very well challenge him in the next election.

00:25:47.860 And because he got his hand slapped for breaking down and agreeing to it at the last minute the last time.

00:25:52.320 So Schumer's, he's now once bitten twice shy.

00:25:55.140 Exactly. He's terrified of AOC and everybody on the far left.

00:25:59.240 So he might very well go through with this, this time.

00:26:01.820 But we've seen how the media handles this every other time it goes on.

00:26:05.040 When a Republican is in the minority and there's a Democratic president, every single time we get the treatment that the party that's out of power is the one holding this up.

00:26:14.480 We should just go forward with a clean CR.

00:26:16.760 We should just keep spending at these, what I would say are completely ridiculous levels until eternity.

00:26:21.540 And the only thing that will stop that are these evil Republicans trying to take these poor government workers and throw them out on their butts so they can't feed their families.

00:26:30.020 Have you seen one federal worker profiled this week?

00:26:34.060 There's usually two weeks of buildup of this.

00:26:36.180 We get how these people won't be able to put their kids in daycare.

00:26:39.280 They won't be able to afford their rent.

00:26:41.940 We get that all the time.

00:26:42.740 We haven't seen one story, not one sad sob story of a worker that's going to be put out because of this, this one time.

00:26:50.220 And it's because they're trying to promote an agenda that's going to blame the Republicans this time.

00:26:55.260 I don't know if it's going to work.

00:26:56.480 They try it every single time.

00:26:57.880 I hope this stuff fails on the American people, but you never know.

00:27:00.980 Meanwhile, this, speaking of Barack Obama, this is also his fault.

00:27:04.940 His Obamacare law, which no one wanted.

00:27:08.820 He shoved it down our throats without majority support.

00:27:11.540 Elections have consequences is too expensive.

00:27:15.420 It jacked up people's premiums and their rates in large pockets of the electorate.

00:27:21.220 And in order to maintain some popularity for Democrats, they subsidized some folks, not everybody, because I hear from them in my email all the time about how their health care costs went up considerably after Obamacare.

00:27:34.240 But they subsidized some portion of those bills for people so that they wouldn't feel the full impact of Obamacare for the first 10 plus years.

00:27:42.880 And now they just keep kicking that can down the road and down the road.

00:27:45.900 And those subsidies are about to go away because they can't stay in place forever.

00:27:51.540 And the Democrats are crying foul.

00:27:53.740 Like, no, it has to.

00:27:54.680 Your law sucks.

00:27:56.500 It raised people's prices.

00:27:58.860 It raised prices pretty much across the board.

00:28:01.160 You've never wrestled with that fact.

00:28:02.840 But we're still pretending Obamacare was a success thanks to these artificial crutches around it.

00:28:09.740 It's the jig is up.

00:28:11.080 OK, sorry, but it's on you.

00:28:13.940 All right.

00:28:14.740 That's the shutdown.

00:28:15.820 Before we leave partisan politics, I've got to get back to Kamala Harris.

00:28:20.020 She said this on The View the other day, and we pointed out it was a lie.

00:28:23.900 But now she keeps, like, doubling and tripling down on it on her ridiculous book tour. 0.57

00:28:29.460 107 days or four days.

00:28:30.880 I would have done it if not for my short time frame.

00:28:33.280 And she goes to speak to her alumna friends at Howard University.

00:28:40.620 She's here with students in the bookstore, and she repeats this lie again.

00:28:46.220 Sot 19.

00:28:46.780 Closest election for president of the United States in the 21st century.

00:28:54.040 Wow, I know that's right.

00:28:55.540 But Howard Grant did that.

00:28:57.120 And Howard Grant did that.

00:29:02.120 Are they not very smart at Howard?

00:29:07.600 I'm sorry.

00:29:08.380 Like, what's wrong with the girls at Howard? 0.99

00:29:10.680 Can't they do math?

00:29:12.000 And Howard Grant did that with the finger.

00:29:15.600 It's a lie that you remember how she's like, my soror.

00:29:20.380 So maybe these were girls from her soror, just giving her like throwing her a bone. 0.99

00:29:25.220 But it's all lies.

00:29:26.620 And just for kicks, we decided to pull the actual close elections in the 21st century.

00:29:32.800 They did not include the Barack Obama elections.

00:29:36.200 We didn't go there.

00:29:37.120 But we did go to the closest ones.

00:29:38.980 OK, let me just tell you what happened in 2024.

00:29:41.640 The race that she's claiming was the closest ever.

00:29:44.920 Donald Trump beat her by 86 electoral college votes.

00:29:48.260 86.

00:29:49.260 In the 2016 election, where he beat Hillary, he only beat her by 70 electoral votes.

00:29:55.800 In the 2000 election, when George W. Bush beat Al Gore, he only beat him by five electoral votes.

00:30:01.760 So it is definitely not the closest election in the 21st century.

00:30:06.980 Well, maybe she's talking about the popular vote.

00:30:09.260 Let's look at that.

00:30:10.200 In the popular vote, in her contest against Donald Trump, she, the Democrat, lost.

00:30:16.380 She lost to Donald Trump by 2.3 million.

00:30:20.200 It was surplus GOP, 2.3 million.

00:30:24.600 What happened in that 2016 election?

00:30:27.960 Hillary Clinton beat the actual winner, Donald Trump, by 2.87 million.

00:30:34.040 And then in 2000, how many votes separated the two men?

00:30:39.340 Again, George W. Bush won.

00:30:40.760 But typically, the Democrat won the popular vote.

00:30:43.660 He won, Al Gore, by 542,000 votes.

00:30:47.540 But he lost the election because the electoral college is what matters.

00:30:50.360 No matter how you slice it, hers was not the closest election or loss in the 21st century.

00:30:58.200 Why does she keep saying that?

00:31:01.420 This is pretty easy to check, too.

00:31:03.560 It really is something that we can all look up.

00:31:05.500 We all experienced.

00:31:06.600 I mean, considering, I don't know if 2000 is technically the 21st century, if it's the last year of the 20th century, I can never remember that.

00:31:12.300 But, I mean, everybody remembers how close that was.

00:31:15.320 People forget how close the 2004 election was.

00:31:17.820 It was just one state, Ohio, that was really the difference there.

00:31:22.420 The 2016 election, Democrats won the popular vote, as you mentioned.

00:31:26.580 2020 is another one that was closer than 2024.

00:31:29.840 The only – really, if you look at the only elections that were more of a, quote-unquote, blowout than 2024 were the two Obama elections.

00:31:38.020 Those are the only two.

00:31:39.320 And, you know, it's – I sometimes get nervous about praising it that way because we were really close to having Kamala Harris as a president.

00:31:48.660 I mean, they needed to – you know, she needed to win three blue wall states.

00:31:51.760 It's the largest margin of those three states was only 1.9 percent.

00:31:56.220 So we have to make sure that we're – we take that seriously because if we stop working hard, if, you know, the people like the people at TPUSA that do all this hard work, without that hard work, that might have been a loss in that election, as crazy as it sounds.

00:32:09.900 But it was definitely not the closest.

00:32:11.780 I don't know why she keeps repeating this.

00:32:13.340 This is one of many, many lies throughout the book.

00:32:16.340 In the book, she claims that she came up with no taxes on tips.

00:32:21.480 What?

00:32:22.180 In the book, she claims that 340 transgendered people were murdered in the United States last year.

00:32:30.040 That number is not true.

00:32:31.480 She just Googled it and came up with the global number, which was incorrect.

00:32:35.120 And not to mention the overwhelming majority, over 80 percent, I believe, of the transgender people who have been murdered are murdered because they're sex workers. 1.00

00:32:44.540 A lot of times these – and Chad Felix Green has gone through each individual case and talked about this.

00:32:48.640 But we're talking about people who are showing up for a sexual encounter, portraying themselves as a woman, and then in the middle of the sexual encounter, the person who's paying them for sex finds out it's a male.

00:33:00.480 Well, that's not the way that we normally think of transgendered violence because of hatred.

00:33:06.440 That's a totally different situation.

00:33:07.640 You're playing with fire.

00:33:07.780 It's still wrong.

00:33:08.560 It's still wrong, of course.

00:33:10.380 But a totally different situation than it's being portrayed.

00:33:13.420 There's a lot of this stuff in her book.

00:33:15.320 She's, of course, delusional throughout it.

00:33:18.100 But she also just seems to not even be checking basic facts.

00:33:21.780 Well, I mean, at least she spat it out at that Howard event in a way that I could understand what she was saying so we can put the lie to it.

00:33:30.140 You know, I appreciate the clarity.

00:33:31.860 That's not what we've been getting from her.

00:33:33.540 Here's another little highlight for you when she sat down with Joy Reid, SOT20.

00:33:38.900 And you think this country is going to survive this regime?

00:33:42.720 Only if we fight for the country we love.

00:33:45.540 And listen, that's another piece of this, which is I really want to remind people of the light that is in each of us.

00:33:56.080 Even in these moments of darkness, especially in these moments of darkness, we have to remember that nobody gives us our light.

00:34:04.480 Oh, my Lord.

00:34:05.260 It's ours.

00:34:07.700 Deep.

00:34:08.220 So let's see it in ourselves.

00:34:09.740 Let's see it in each other.

00:34:11.020 It may be a little flicker right now because they're certainly trying to dim it.

00:34:14.520 But don't let them extinguish our light.

00:34:17.720 Right?

00:34:18.120 Stu, Stu, your mmm was exactly what I needed to hear at the right time.

00:34:26.880 Ah, no one extinguishes your light.

00:34:29.840 God, let me just get my pen.

00:34:32.340 Mmm.

00:34:33.060 It's amazing.

00:34:34.120 It really is.

00:34:34.900 I mean, how many of those did she have when she was vice president? 0.96

00:34:37.240 We did a whole series called Veep Thoughts, in which, if you remember the old Saturday Night Live sketch where they would do these deep thoughts.

00:34:44.080 That's what she would do.

00:34:44.960 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:34:45.240 She'd just kind of get out into this weird, she'd get out almost like on a plank, and she'd just keep talking and just think that she'd eventually be able to make it to the other side, to the next boat.

00:34:54.440 It just didn't happen.

00:34:55.460 Lots of falls into the ocean with that one.

00:34:57.640 I want to hear more.

00:34:58.960 You can't get enough of Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:35:00.760 Let's Sot 22.

00:35:01.840 I haven't even heard this one.

00:35:02.760 This is her TikTok posting about her visit to Howard.

00:35:07.240 Oh, it's Cal.

00:35:08.460 Are you from California?

00:35:09.200 I'm from Oakland, California.

00:35:10.340 Hey, girl. 0.99

00:35:10.620 Oh, come here.

00:35:12.300 Well, do you see how it turns out?

00:35:13.720 Uh-huh.

00:35:14.080 Huh?

00:35:14.560 Yes, you do.

00:35:15.380 Oh.

00:35:16.180 It's a moment in time in our country and the world where I hope everything that you are seeing tells you we need you.

00:35:25.980 We need you to lead.

00:35:28.140 We need you to be strong.

00:35:29.740 You are leaders right now.

00:35:31.440 You are born with me.

00:35:32.980 It's good to be at the bookstore, my friend.

00:35:35.780 Great.

00:35:36.320 Talk about it.

00:35:38.120 Oh, my God.

00:35:38.580 She is the least inspirational figure ever, like literally in U.S. history.

00:35:44.500 I hope everything you are seeing right now tells you to lead.

00:35:51.380 What?

00:35:52.460 What?

00:35:53.140 And then the girl to Oakland, you see how it turns out?

00:35:56.620 She's from like this rich suburb up in Washington. 0.77

00:35:59.960 This is how Oakland turns out.

00:36:03.300 If you sleep with Willie Brown, you too could wind up a failed vice presidential candidate.

00:36:08.880 I mean, still, I'm sorry.

00:36:10.720 But like the production around her, you know, it's like the kids say, stop trying to make whatever happen.

00:36:17.360 Right?

00:36:17.540 That's like they're saying.

00:36:18.500 Yes.

00:36:18.800 When you're like trying too hard.

00:36:19.880 And it works so well when when deployed effectively.

00:36:24.420 Stop trying to make Kamala Harris is cool happen.

00:36:27.060 You tried.

00:36:27.920 You spent two billion dollars.

00:36:29.880 It failed.

00:36:30.640 It's still failing.

00:36:32.520 Yeah.

00:36:33.460 And they keep attempting it.

00:36:35.160 And I guess I ask you a question here, Megan, which is to what end?

00:36:40.080 What is the purpose of this?

00:36:42.020 Well, a lot of people are saying she's running.

00:36:43.820 A lot of people like smart political people online are saying all that all they're hearing here is telling them she's running for president again.

00:36:52.820 I just can't believe she thinks this is a good idea, though.

00:36:57.300 So her book title sort of hints to it like the book is filled with excuses as to the only reason she lost the election is because she only has one hundred and seven days to come to come to have everything come together.

00:37:09.020 Now, I I was there for this period.

00:37:11.640 I remember how it went.

00:37:12.760 I remember she actually got out to a lead about 30 days in.

00:37:16.180 She if I think the shorter period of time would have worked much, much better for her.

00:37:20.200 I was there when she picked Tim Walls as her vice presidential candidate in the most inexplicable decision in human history that was part of this this disaster.

00:37:31.720 And I just don't think that's where people are.

00:37:33.740 I mean, her her her answer on the Tim Walls thing was to say, well, I would have rather had Pete Buttigieg, but he was gay, which is strange. 1.00

00:37:43.560 Which it puts her as the only person I've ever heard in my entire life, Megan, to admit they didn't hire someone because they're gay.

00:37:51.380 I mean, I know that's probably happened as sadly, but it's like she actually the one person who's come out and said, yeah, that was technically illegal.

00:37:59.840 Yeah, I was being honest.

00:38:01.200 It's not lawful.

00:38:02.220 If you or I did not hire somebody because of their sexuality, we could get sued.

00:38:05.500 And yet she here she is blurting it out in her book to, I guess, pave the way for another run.

00:38:12.300 I don't think there's any desire for her to come back.

00:38:15.400 You know, that is funny.

00:38:16.540 After the Hillary Clinton loss, there was a lot of talk about her coming back in 2020.

00:38:20.360 Even, you know, some people were moving 2024.

00:38:23.260 Yeah, I know it hurts to think about it, but I never was worried about that one solely because I saw how much Democrats hated her.

00:38:32.620 They didn't see her as, oh, gosh, she she was a great candidate.

00:38:35.980 How did she lose?

00:38:36.980 They saw her as a person who said who blew an election against a guy they couldn't believe they couldn't beat.

00:38:42.880 That's how they saw her.

00:38:44.060 And they didn't have any desire to bring her back.

00:38:47.240 Kamala is sort of in that category, maybe not as extreme as is as Hillary. 1.00

00:38:51.500 I think there are some people on the left who really think that maybe if she had a full time for a campaign, it would have worked out better.

00:38:57.420 But we saw her try to run for her own campaign. 1.00

00:39:00.380 She had an incredible launch. 0.98

00:39:02.380 Do you remember that, Megan?

00:39:03.400 I mean, it was a yes, publicized.

00:39:05.300 She raised funds if she was a great fundraiser and she remained to be a great fundraiser to the end.

00:39:09.740 Obviously, billions of dollars they spent on that campaign.

00:39:12.800 But to what end?

00:39:14.220 It doesn't lead anywhere with her.

00:39:15.700 It's just throwing money into a vapid wilderness.

00:39:18.700 And I don't think the Democrats want to attempt that again.

00:39:21.980 Well, here she is tuning up her message about Donald Trump.

00:39:27.120 This is one of the things people are pointing to as alleged evidence that she's getting ready to run for president. 1.00

00:39:33.640 It's from the Congressional Black Caucus Phoenix Awards on Saturday.

00:39:39.040 It's out 21.

00:39:39.500 A time such as this demands that we win the missionaries and, of course, check the balances on the unchecked incompetence on the English president.

00:39:56.280 At a time such as this, it demands one thing for sure.

00:40:06.640 We must fight fire with fire.

00:40:11.000 What does that mean?

00:40:13.440 That's what we're doing, you moron.

00:40:15.500 That's why James Comey just got indicted.

00:40:18.040 Like, what is she even talking about?

00:40:20.380 Unhinged and incompetent.

00:40:22.440 That's where she's going to go?

00:40:23.520 This is why she should be the next nominee? 0.99

00:40:26.440 I mean, it does seem to be the Democratic preference for what they want, unhinged and insane.

00:40:32.780 But again, you come out of an area where we've been talking about political assassinations.

00:40:38.780 They keep talking about how we're the ones raising the temperature.

00:40:42.220 And then we get this fight fire with fire talk.

00:40:45.160 I don't think that's the cause for any of these problems per se.

00:40:48.960 But, like, it's fascinating to see them kind of stumble their way through it.

00:40:53.380 I don't think that message is going to, you know, to connect with people.

00:40:58.020 I think the Democrats are done with her.

00:41:00.520 Now, look, as someone who doesn't want her to win or any Democrat to win, I'd cheer her on.

00:41:06.760 I hope she goes.

00:41:07.720 Me too. I'm rooting for her.

00:41:09.140 It's her and Jasmine Crockett on the same ticket.

00:41:10.740 That's what I want.

00:41:11.380 Same.

00:41:11.580 I want Jasmine.

00:41:12.460 Yeah, that would be fantastic.

00:41:13.600 That's my ultimate choice.

00:41:15.900 I would love it.

00:41:16.560 Do it, please.

00:41:17.320 I mean, again, either we'd win or it would completely sink our country.

00:41:22.280 But we'd probably deserve it if we selected those.

00:41:24.240 But it would be fun.

00:41:25.340 It would be a good time for you and me.

00:41:27.160 Great content.

00:41:28.540 I'll say that as we careened into the ocean.

00:41:32.700 I mean, I can't wait.

00:41:34.180 I can't wait for Democratic primary season to start.

00:41:36.780 And it's kind of already starting.

00:41:38.160 You know, they're sort of popping up here and there.

00:41:40.060 They're doing their little turf wars.

00:41:42.080 I did think one interesting revelation in her book was on the day that Joe Biden told her he wasn't going to keep running and he was passing the baton to her.

00:41:49.320 She started phone calling all these top Democrats to get their endorsement and their support so that there wasn't any sort of a fracture within the party and a mini primary push.

00:41:59.000 And the one person who didn't pick up her call was Gavin Newsom, who just texted back hiking and then didn't ever call her back.

00:42:07.280 I love that detail.

00:42:09.300 I'm sorry, but like newfound respect for Gavin Newsom.

00:42:12.300 That was well done.

00:42:14.020 Yeah, that's the most likable moment I've ever seen from Gavin Newsom.

00:42:16.740 I'm not going to get sucked into it, but I actually like that.

00:42:20.720 Yeah, it's true.

00:42:22.140 She is such a bizarre person.

00:42:26.220 Like, you know, the one thing she's very, very good at and the entire reason outside of sleeping with Willie Brown, which led to her rise into the American political world, is she was really good at those backroom moments. 0.95

00:42:39.460 She's really good at harassing people to support her. 1.00

00:42:43.200 The backroom moments with Willie Brown, a little bit different.

00:42:45.200 I'm not sure how good she was there.

00:42:46.360 But but like, you know, she would she would have real challengers on the Democratic left and she would go all across the community.

00:42:54.160 She would harass them with phone calls. 0.98

00:42:55.780 She would get their money.

00:42:56.720 She would lock them in his fundraiser.

00:42:58.160 She would lock in their support.

00:42:59.820 She was really good at that.

00:43:00.760 And she was very good in that moment as Biden announced that to go and make those moves and lock everybody up.

00:43:08.760 I mean, you remember Barack Obama came out and said, I can't wait to see what process we'll come up with to find a nominee.

00:43:13.940 And she was very clearly saying, don't go down the Kamala road.

00:43:17.680 She was able to lock that up regardless and was able to kind of push herself into that position.

00:43:22.920 But once she gets into that position at every level, she's been terrible. 0.51

00:43:27.260 She's never been popular.

00:43:28.400 She's never been able to really win outside of hard left places where there is no challenger at all.

00:43:34.160 And I just don't think this is a road the Democrats want to go down again.

00:43:39.400 I do encourage it, though.

00:43:41.160 She had some crazy comment in the book about how she really wishes that she had responded to Trump's.

00:43:47.340 She's for they them.

00:43:48.920 I'm for you.

00:43:50.020 Add better.

00:43:51.460 And she wishes that she had come out and said.

00:43:55.100 I'm for we the people.

00:43:59.660 That would have solved it.

00:44:01.380 Like she really feels she came up with this line after the fact like that.

00:44:06.420 Maybe that's going to make her run again, you know, because she finally came up with the zinger, the Kamala Harris zinger she thought would have put her over the top. 1.00

00:44:13.780 OK, speaking of they them, I want to spend a minute on what's happening between J.K.

00:44:19.120 Rowling and Emma Watson.

00:44:20.960 We didn't get to this yesterday, but it's very good.

00:44:24.440 I'm loving every minute of it.

00:44:26.060 So, of course, J.K. Rowling is the billionaire genius behind the Harry Potter books and movies and plays and series and merch.

00:44:35.020 And J.K. Rowling was raised poor.

00:44:38.080 She came up with this book idea like in cafes while she was sitting there trying to think of a way to support herself and started writing this book that wound up becoming just a behemoth in international society.

00:44:49.920 And the kids who got cast as Hermione Granger in the case of Emma Watson, as Harry Potter in the case of Daniel Radcliffe and as the other the other one, the least known of the trio, became international superstars.

00:45:06.420 They got rich beyond their wildest dreams.

00:45:08.900 They became overnight stars, sensations.

00:45:11.840 Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe, at least, are still acting in many projects as a result of all of this.

00:45:18.800 And really, all they should ever say to J.K. Rowling is, thank you.

00:45:23.380 Thank you.

00:45:24.020 Thank you.

00:45:24.520 Thank you.

00:45:25.140 They were 10 or 11 when this all went down.

00:45:27.920 Well, now Emma Watson is, I think, 34.

00:45:32.200 She's she's a grown up.

00:45:33.360 And within the past five years, I think it was five years ago, she has started, and so is Daniel Radcliffe, turning publicly and attacking, turning on and attacking J.K. Rowling.

00:45:45.860 Why?

00:45:46.540 Because J.K. Rowling has been the stalwart in standing up for women's rights on the trans issue.

00:45:52.980 She's never wavered.

00:45:54.580 Unlike some of us, she wasn't drawn in early and, like, convinced that this is a matter of empathy.

00:45:58.840 She was like, no, from the beginning, which was very, very strong and brave.

00:46:05.120 She lost a lot.

00:46:06.820 They tried to rest her series away from her, her movie, her play.

00:46:10.400 But J.K. Rowling is really kind of a don't F with me kind of bad bitch in the best sense and has never backed down.

00:46:18.560 Well, now the culture's turning.

00:46:21.500 It's turning more toward J.K. Rowling's point of view and not Emma Watson, who mercilessly attacked her for the past few years.

00:46:30.800 No loyalty whatsoever.

00:46:32.500 And she gave an interview recently.

00:46:35.960 Emma did.

00:46:36.800 Hold on a second.

00:46:37.440 I've got it here.

00:46:39.820 OK.

00:46:41.020 First, let me show you the dig she made.

00:46:42.620 This is as 2022, as recently as she was doing it even before that.

00:46:46.640 But let me just show you what she's been sounding like before now.

00:46:49.360 Sot 31.

00:46:49.920 Sot 31.

00:46:51.500 I'm here for all of the witches.

00:46:55.660 Our industry is blessed with so many diverse voices exploring ideas of sexuality, race, religion and identity.

00:47:10.700 Different ways of being.

00:47:12.380 Our creative talents are brave enough to explore the past because they're eager to face the future.

00:47:22.100 OK.

00:47:24.260 J.K. Rowling says it was after that speech.

00:47:26.120 Yes, I agree with your scrunched up face that the backlash to J.K. exploded.

00:47:32.500 And then Emma Watson gives this interview to Jay Shetty on his podcast like this week or last week, a couple of days ago, and says the following.

00:47:41.600 Sot 32.

00:47:42.120 Recently, there's been so many conversations and comments directly from J.K. Rowling, whether it's her saying she'd never forgive you for your views or the fact that when she was asked what ruins the movies for her, she named yourself and some of your co-stars.

00:48:03.400 As in, how do you think about that?

00:48:05.420 I really don't believe that by having had that experience and holding the love and support and views that I have mean that I can't and don't treasure Jo.

00:48:26.340 There's just no world in which I could ever cancel her out.

00:48:32.980 I can love her.

00:48:33.800 Oh, my God.

00:48:34.200 I can know she loved me.

00:48:35.820 I can be grateful to her.

00:48:37.800 What she's done will never be taken away from me.

00:48:40.940 This is ridiculous.

00:48:42.960 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:48:44.160 If you like she she happily heaped scorn upon Jo for years. 1.00

00:48:51.200 We've only got a minute left in show before we have to take a break, but I really want to read this J.K. Rowling post on X.

00:49:01.220 So that's what I'm going to do.

00:49:02.500 I'm going to take a break and then I'm going to come back and I'm going to read this post, too.

00:49:05.540 That's what we'll do.

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00:51:47.460 Stu Bergeer, host of Blaze TV's Stu Does America, is back with me now.

00:51:52.620 So J.K. Rowling, after years of holding her tongue, years of just letting these brats run around attacking her, has finally shot back.

00:52:05.520 And it is scathing.

00:52:08.820 It is beautiful, and it is clearly written by someone who's made a billion dollars plus with her writing skills.

00:52:15.740 Okay.

00:52:16.800 First, she notices that she's seeing a lot of comment about those remarks we just played by Emma Watson.

00:52:21.620 She says,

00:52:23.020 I want to make a couple of points.

00:52:25.220 I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created.

00:52:30.420 Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology.

00:52:35.900 However, Emma and Dan, in particular, have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right,

00:52:44.980 nay, obligation, to critique me and my views in public.

00:52:48.560 Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

00:52:57.700 When you've known people since they were 10 years old, it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness.

00:53:02.960 For the past few years, I have repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically.

00:53:09.180 Ironically, I told producers I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

00:53:17.300 She speaks of that clip that we just watched.

00:53:20.960 The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's all-witches speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me.

00:53:27.840 But it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself.

00:53:32.980 This is the one in which Emma attacked J.K. in 2022.

00:53:36.980 Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence,

00:53:42.180 I'm so sorry for what you're going through.

00:53:44.400 She has my phone number.

00:53:45.880 This was back when the death, rape, and torture threats against me were at their peak, and I was constantly worried for my family's safety.

00:53:55.300 Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one-line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

00:54:06.340 Like other people who have never experienced adult life, uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life, she's ignorant of how ignorant she is.

00:54:18.700 She'll never need a homeless shelter.

00:54:20.780 She's never going to be placed on a mixed-sex public hospital ward. 0.74

00:54:24.700 I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood.

00:54:29.380 Her public bathroom is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door.

00:54:35.240 Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? 0.76

00:54:41.580 Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis center that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? 1.00

00:54:48.620 To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison.

00:54:54.640 I wasn't a multimillionaire at 14.

00:54:58.280 I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous.

00:55:02.920 I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges. 0.95

00:55:15.020 The greatest irony here is that had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me, a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was, I might never have been this honest.

00:55:35.320 Adults can't expect to cozy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love.

00:55:47.160 Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public, but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.

00:55:57.660 But, I mean, Mike, Mike, drop Stubergear.

00:56:03.100 She could not have said this more perfectly, better, more powerfully, or in a more damaging way for Emma Watson.

00:56:13.200 She deserved every bit of scorn.

00:56:16.360 Yeah, first of all, don't screw with one of the world's greatest writers when you get in one of these battles, because that, you can tell.

00:56:24.920 I mean, that was something that, that was not something she took a couple minutes on.

00:56:30.120 It felt like it was really something that had built up over, excuse me, several years, right?

00:56:34.580 She's dealing with something that is really heartfelt there, and you're right to say that it was, you know, perfect.

00:56:40.380 It was surgical in the way it was done.

00:56:43.600 It was cutting.

00:56:44.460 It was, it really was impressive in that way.

00:56:47.540 But also, you really sense, like, hurt, I think, there from her.

00:56:52.560 You know, I think, like, that...

00:56:54.240 Betrayal.

00:56:55.740 Betrayal, right?

00:56:56.420 Like, someone who you helped, you know, make an international superstar who, you know, was the, who gave birth to your creation, right?

00:57:04.780 And bringing it into film, and you have to sit there and watch her criticize you over and over again, both, you know, directly and tangentially over a long period of time.

00:57:15.720 And then for the, when the world sort of turns around to have this moment of, like, wow, I really love her, and I've always loved her, and I've always embraced her.

00:57:24.200 That's got to be hard to deal with, and it feels like it really hurt her at her core.

00:57:28.680 Understandably, I will say, the positive way maybe to look at this is that change is real, right?

00:57:36.840 You know, if she's sensing that, if Emma Watson, in her circles, is really sensing a change like that, maybe we've made more progress than we even understand.

00:57:47.580 And that is a really positive way to look at this.

00:57:51.260 But that doesn't, you know, heal a wound that seems really deep for J.K. Rowling.

00:57:55.860 My favorite line, I wasn't a multimillionaire at 14.

00:58:01.480 I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous.

00:58:06.380 Oh, my God.

00:58:08.260 It's so effective.

00:58:09.800 It's so good.

00:58:11.280 F this woman and her betrayal of J.K. Rowling.

00:58:14.780 When J.K. Rowling needed a friend.

00:58:16.820 When she could have used just silence.

00:58:19.200 If Emma Watson disagreed so mightily, and by the way, I don't believe she did.

00:58:23.640 I believe she went along with a woke mob, just like all these actors do.

00:58:27.720 There's no way she actually believes a man can become a woman.

00:58:30.200 It's scientifically proven he cannot.

00:58:32.680 And so even just her silence would have been something.

00:58:36.620 But she joined in.

00:58:38.920 She piled on.

00:58:40.340 So did Daniel Ratcliffe.

00:58:41.900 He should not escape this either.

00:58:43.940 He was just as disgusting to her.

00:58:45.840 And, you know, those those were the ones that burned as J.K. Rowling was dealing with death threats and having to amp up her security to protect her family.

00:58:55.940 Those are the ones she was thinking about because we wouldn't even know Emma Watson's name if it hadn't been for J.K. Rowling.

00:59:04.020 That's almost certainly true, right?

00:59:08.280 And, you know, one of the one of the parts of it that hit me when as you were reading it was when she stops herself and says, nay, obligation, right?

00:59:17.400 As an obligation for her to come out and talk negatively about J.K. Rowling.

00:59:22.420 That is how the society worked a couple of years ago.

00:59:26.440 Like the left and honestly, tons of people in the middle, some even on the right, felt the obligation to post the black box on Instagram, felt the obligation.

00:59:37.200 They had to speak out.

00:59:38.320 They had to take on this this unjust world that they had no part in, of course.

00:59:43.100 But everyone else seemed to have a major problem with when we're talking about, as you know, as you note, biological truths.

00:59:49.880 I am with you on this.

00:59:51.240 I don't believe any of these people believe the things they say on this topic.

00:59:55.340 I don't think that they're maybe there's a couple, but I think the overwhelming majority of them see it as some sort of box they need to check to be on the good side of the world.

01:00:07.140 But none of them in private moments believe it at all.

01:00:11.260 None of them believe you can magically change your gender with a series of words.

01:00:16.200 None of them could possibly believe that.

01:00:18.360 These are stories you tell your children about magic and princesses and princes.

01:00:22.780 I mean, we're talking about a person who wrote a book about a wizard.

01:00:26.400 That's the type of thing you need.

01:00:27.960 You need wizard-like powers to change your gender with a series of words and a magic wand. 0.95

01:00:33.360 Nobody believes this.

01:00:35.100 And the fact that we went through a period that is going to be looked upon in the past as one of the strangest periods in American history,

01:00:41.700 where all of a sudden we were all supposed to change our minds and wake up to this new truth when we all knew it was false.

01:00:51.120 That's the scariest part.

01:00:53.020 It wasn't like we had this awakening to this left-wing understanding.

01:00:57.260 All of these people knew it was false and all lied publicly to fit into some weird mold that came and went in about 20 months.

01:01:07.640 And that's a scary thing.

01:01:09.660 If that is a possibility, we're closer to the edges of civilization than we realize.

01:01:15.060 Honestly, like this, you must call out your dear friend out of obligation, or you're a bad person,

01:01:24.880 or you somehow endorse every thought they have, unless you publicly attack your friend,

01:01:32.600 you're responsible for all that person's thoughts and opinions, is absurd.

01:01:37.560 And I will just say, it goes on to this day.

01:01:41.120 And it's wrong.

01:01:42.220 It's deeply wrong.

01:01:43.520 And shame on Emma Watson for bowing to the mob. 1.00

01:01:47.160 Good for J.K. Rowling for calling her out.

01:01:49.780 I am clearly on the Rowling team.

01:01:51.920 I want to say, on the subject of the trans mania, there was an extraordinary incident.

01:01:59.260 Okay.

01:02:00.200 This happened.

01:02:01.240 Hold on a second.

01:02:02.140 I think it's in the main packet.

01:02:03.580 I want to make sure.

01:02:04.260 Yes.

01:02:04.700 Okay.

01:02:05.360 This came through my ex-feed the other day and caught my attention because I follow this woman, Beth Bourne.

01:02:11.660 And she had quite a moment.

01:02:13.420 She's the chair of the Yolo County chapter of Moms for Liberty in Davis, California.

01:02:18.960 And Yolo County is near Sacramento.

01:02:20.780 And she has been going in front of the Davis Unified School Board every month for the last three years to raise her concerns surrounding their locker room policies,

01:02:30.520 which let any student go to the locker room that they identify, of the gender they, quote, identify with.

01:02:36.500 Which means boys can go into the girls' rooms and sit and watch them undress with impunity.

01:02:42.960 It's welcome.

01:02:43.880 It's allowed.

01:02:44.760 If you object, you're a bigot.

01:02:46.440 And so Beth Bourne, who is not 12, she is 50, decided to do something about this.

01:02:52.240 And every month she's been going and going and going for three years, they aren't listening.

01:02:58.080 So she decided to take it to the next level.

01:03:02.820 And I'll walk people through what we're seeing here in SOT 34.

01:03:07.760 Right now, we require our students to undress for PE class.

01:03:13.880 So I'm just going to give you an idea what that looks like when I undress.

01:03:17.640 So right now, this school district is saying that depending on a child's transgender identity,

01:03:24.860 that they can pick which bathroom they want.

01:03:27.000 Right now, at this school district, we have children self-identifying into different bathrooms.

01:03:32.960 She's taking off her pants. 1.00

01:03:34.500 No, you cannot.

01:03:35.800 I have my bathing suit on.

01:03:37.380 Excuse me.

01:03:38.020 This is allowed.

01:03:39.640 We're going to recess.

01:03:41.420 I'm going to finish my comments.

01:03:42.940 You are violating my First Amendment right.

01:03:45.860 I am putting on my PE uniform.

01:03:48.320 You are disrupting.

01:03:49.760 You go, Beth.

01:03:51.420 Now they're back.

01:03:52.140 I will gavel it in recess and you'll be asked to leave.

01:03:55.780 May I ask what I did to disrupt the meeting?

01:03:57.000 Got her clothes back on.

01:03:58.620 You can start your public comment.

01:04:00.500 So right now.

01:04:02.000 She's taking the shirt off again.

01:04:04.860 I'm sorry, but this is a bathing suit top.

01:04:09.400 I love her so much.

01:04:12.160 This is so brilliant.

01:04:13.400 I'll give you one more, Stu.

01:04:14.740 Here she is speaking to the local news, CBS Sacramento, the next day.

01:04:20.340 I just thought I would show the school board what does it feel like to change into your PE clothing.

01:04:25.700 And I had a bathing suit on, so everything was covered as far as my body.

01:04:30.420 You know, if the adults don't feel comfortable watching someone, and I'm a 50-year-old woman, change into an outfit, how can they expect the girls to feel comfortable doing that?

01:04:41.460 So I just thought I made a really good point.

01:04:44.680 Do you consider what you did last night disruptive?

01:04:47.900 You know, I don't think it was disruptive.

01:04:49.960 What was disruptive was them interrupting my three minutes of free speech.

01:04:55.180 That didn't stop the orderly flow of the meeting.

01:04:57.860 I didn't prevent the next person from giving their three minutes of comment.

01:05:02.900 Amazingly well done.

01:05:04.000 She got national attention for it.

01:05:06.080 So far, I don't think the board is budging because they're ideologues who are going to hold on to this myth that it's somehow bigoted to say little girls have to undress in front of boys and that it's perfectly fine.

01:05:17.740 But Beth can't go down to a bathing suit in front of these other grown adults. 0.98

01:05:22.060 But what a way to make her point.

01:05:25.280 Certainly made the point.

01:05:26.440 And I have to say, too, if you happen to be listening on SiriusXM, you have to know this one piece of color, which is the person who's on the board in the center is wearing an N95 mask because, of course, he is. 0.69

01:05:38.460 Yes, of course he is in 2025.

01:05:42.440 It's an incredible video.

01:05:44.000 And honestly, it makes a great point because she she didn't even get to the point where a young girl might be changing in the presence of other young boys.

01:05:54.240 She got to the point where she's in a bathing suit, which is what you see on a beach. 0.73

01:05:57.820 And even that they were so uncomfortable with, they couldn't even hear the words coming out of her mouth.

01:06:02.320 If it's inappropriate in that environment, quite obviously it's inappropriate around 12 year old boys.

01:06:09.380 Quite obviously it's inappropriate with 12 year old girls having to watch, have leering boys look at them in that way.

01:06:16.280 It's totally wrong.

01:06:18.300 It makes the point.

01:06:19.420 And this we've seen this over and over again, Megan.

01:06:21.560 How many times have we seen parents go and say, hey, I'm just going to read the book that you say is OK for my kids to read in class.

01:06:27.220 They start reading it and they shut it down.

01:06:29.300 They all take their N95 masks and go home.

01:06:32.360 It is so revealing about their position that, again, I don't even think they believe it.

01:06:37.460 I don't think they think that is right.

01:06:39.180 I don't think they think those books are OK for young kids.

01:06:41.840 But they're going along with this as if we're, you know, it's two plus two equals five all over again.

01:06:47.660 And it's a scary thing that people can be moved that way.

01:06:51.080 They were so uncomfortable and they're adults.

01:06:54.860 And she only stripped down to her modest bikini.

01:06:58.200 It wasn't even a teeny weeny bikini.

01:06:59.800 And they were so uncomfortable seeing her in that state of undress.

01:07:03.620 What's actually happening is you have young prepubescent girls or pubescent girls in their locker room and you have teenage boys coming in and taking it all off.

01:07:17.020 If we want to talk about what's actually happening.

01:07:19.700 It's girls at the height of the years in which you get embarrassed easily, especially about physical appearance, never mind nudity of your own, it trying to change into their bathing suits to go swimming in school like I used to do. 0.93

01:07:34.540 And they've got intact males coming into their locker rooms and taking it all off. 1.00

01:07:42.200 And because especially as you get a little older, let's say the teenage years and the college years, this is largely driven, this fetish by these men, by autogynephilia, which is where you get sexually aroused by dressing like a woman or being near other women, pretending you're one of them.

01:07:59.760 You can add an erection to this picture for these poor girls. 1.00

01:08:03.740 Deal with that, you disgusting school board perverts, your perverts.

01:08:09.000 Seriously, like there's something wrong with them that they want to encourage that.

01:08:13.240 But they can't take Beth Bourne stripping down to a modest two piece in the middle of their school board meeting. 0.99

01:08:18.620 Yeah, it is absolutely unbelievable.

01:08:23.440 And we've seen, you know, situations where sex offenders are getting into these situations.

01:08:29.200 Sex offenders are, you know, going down the roads that you're talking about and they are able to be in these rooms.

01:08:36.520 And and we we hear these reports that the haters are the ones that call it out.

01:08:42.280 The haters are the ones that get thrown out of the gym.

01:08:44.240 They lose their memberships.

01:08:45.300 They get tossed out of school.

01:08:47.120 The parents are the ones that pay these prices.

01:08:49.320 It's it's an it's an insane world.

01:08:52.580 And, you know, it's hard to believe that it still exists.

01:08:54.820 You know, I I said that when we were talking about Kamala Harris, that while it wasn't the closest election, it was too close for comfort.

01:09:01.060 And I do feel that occasionally when we talk about these topics, it feels like we have made progress.

01:09:05.880 I mentioned that maybe we've made more than we thought, but it's certainly not all the progress that we we've made.

01:09:11.320 This is still around is still alive in a lot of communities.

01:09:14.240 There are still a lot of places where, you know, a mom just trying to keep her daughter out of a locker room with a bunch of, you know, 12 year old boys.

01:09:24.520 That's still the weird position in a bunch of places inside the United States.

01:09:29.720 And we have to defeat that ideology because that, you know, we're putting kids at risk.

01:09:34.620 We're putting little girls at risk.

01:09:35.680 I've got a little girl.

01:09:36.580 You know, I this is not OK.

01:09:38.840 This has to be stopped and it has to be stopped right now.

01:09:41.920 Not for nothing, Stu.

01:09:42.920 But I was thinking as I watched Beth, the only thing that would be more effective than this would be if it were a man standing there who took it all off.

01:09:49.900 Because that's actually what our daughters are having to deal with. 1.00

01:09:52.300 I mean, it would be you'd get arrested for sure, but something for you to chew on before the next school board meeting in your town.

01:10:00.980 I'm going to say no, please at least keep something on in this scenario.

01:10:05.960 I hope it's not one of those European bikinis you're talking about. 1.00

01:10:08.920 That's that's what would really bring it home, taking it all off.

01:10:12.680 A man taking it all off.

01:10:14.600 You want to see those women run from that school board? 1.00

01:10:17.060 They run.

01:10:17.360 You would get arrested, but you would still be a hero.

01:10:20.640 OK, I want to finish with this tomorrow.

01:10:23.380 I'm going to take a deep dive into this coordinated series of attacks onto Charlie Kirk's legacy because it's really irritating me.

01:10:31.680 And while I don't feel like I need to be the standard bearer of who Charlie was, his team is doing a great job of this.

01:10:37.660 I've been right in the middle of all these fights.

01:10:39.840 And Charlie came on my show many times after some of these controversial comments and we would talk about them.

01:10:44.760 So I do have the receipts and I have had it up to here with these race hustlers like Ta-Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah-Jones out there posthumously trying to redefine who Charlie Kirk was.

01:10:58.860 They didn't know him at all, at all.

01:11:02.380 They need to keep their mouths shut rather than taking little bits of clips and trying to redefine him as some sort of a racist.

01:11:10.080 That's what they are, both of them.

01:11:12.040 So I'm going to do just one soundbite with you today and then I'll get into it in more detail tomorrow.

01:11:19.480 But Ta-Nehisi Coates went on with Ezra Klein of The New York Times and he had an issue with Ezra who had written a very nice piece after Charlie died complimenting and crediting Charlie for being willing to debate and to talk to the other side.

01:11:37.620 And Ezra said that he admired that.

01:11:39.120 So here it started, I'm going to play a couple soundbites actually, it started with Ta-Nehisi Coates trying to shame Ezra Klein for having done that in SOT 10.

01:11:47.460 One thing I wrote about in that piece that I do worry about is I worry we are already in a cycle of political violence, of mimetic violence.

01:11:56.520 I think about Pelosi, I think about Shapiro, I think about the near assassination on Trump.

01:12:00.640 I think about when after that happened, I thought about me, I thought about you, I thought about all kinds of people I know, right?

01:12:05.320 So I do think there's just something about when violence takes hold that you like that.

01:12:11.860 There's something about it that it begins to breach all lines.

01:12:15.480 Yeah.

01:12:15.980 So I guess that's part of my reaction to, you know, I think all of that is understandable, but I guess.

01:12:21.800 Was silence not an option?

01:12:24.380 Yeah.

01:12:24.580 Silence to me was not grieving people.

01:12:27.580 I like, I felt it wasn't important as someone who is liberal, as someone who has a voice that there are moments like that.

01:12:36.780 And there Ezra Klein was totally right.

01:12:39.440 And Ta-Nehisi Coates is disgusting.

01:12:41.860 And after Ezra Klein says, I, and he's not even talking about us still.

01:12:45.480 It's, it's us.

01:12:46.280 It's our people who are getting shot like Trump, like Corey Compatori, like the other two people who are at the Butler rally who got shot.

01:12:53.040 Charlie dead now at age 31.

01:12:57.320 It's our people who are getting shot and killed.

01:12:59.480 Okay.

01:12:59.760 It's actually not Ezra Klein.

01:13:01.260 I don't want anything to happen to him or any leftist, but like, let's be real about who's facing the risk right now.

01:13:06.580 But he's thinking about himself.

01:13:08.080 Okay.

01:13:08.520 We'll take what we can get.

01:13:09.640 He's thinking about Ta-Nehisi Coates getting shot.

01:13:12.040 That's obviously what he's saying.

01:13:13.240 So therefore he had to say something against political assassination.

01:13:16.940 I mean, I guess we'll take what we can get crumbs from the left, but even the crumbs are a problem for Coates.

01:13:21.880 But was silence not an option?

01:13:25.400 I mean, they don't care.

01:13:27.380 They don't care that we're getting killed.

01:13:29.720 You heard it right there.

01:13:31.180 Why would you say anything, anything at all, anything kind about this hateful man?

01:13:36.600 And I'll get to the specific comments on Charlie.

01:13:38.500 He's, he objected to the mild praise Ezra Klein offered in that article as a means of preserving life.

01:13:46.760 Very true.

01:13:50.880 And I cannot wait for your deep dive on this.

01:13:53.940 You know, I thought what Ezra Klein wrote after Charlie's death was great.

01:13:59.120 I thought it was awesome.

01:14:00.640 And it was very rare that I feel that way reading something from someone on the left.

01:14:05.720 I mean, it was, you know, again, you're right.

01:14:08.560 In some ways it's crumbs.

01:14:09.760 I mean, you kind of wish it was more from some of these people, but I thought it was important that it was noted from someone on the left that this guy tried to do politics the right way.

01:14:17.340 And I think the left has a real struggle on their hands because, you know, you have someone like Ezra Klein who's talked about this, you know, this abundance idea on the left, a way to kind of reform the left into a vision that maybe the middle of the country won't absolutely hate.

01:14:33.620 And when I look at that politically, I'm like, gosh, you know, there's something to that potentially.

01:14:37.200 Like, I'd be worried about that as a conservative who wants, you know, conservative ideas to win.

01:14:41.920 It's much more threatening than politically than what we see on the left from someone like Coates, like someone from like Ibram Kendi.

01:14:49.160 But what we see on the left over and over and over again is the incentives are all there for you to go farther and farther to vilify Charlie Kirk, to celebrate him, his death even.

01:14:59.100 And that is, I think, I don't think there's a chance that the quote unquote sane left can win that battle over on that side.

01:15:07.200 And that's a scary thing for our country.

01:15:09.260 I mean, I think it's probably easier to defeat in elections, but it's a scarier thing for our country.

01:15:13.640 And the more hopeless that side of the world becomes, we see it.

01:15:19.360 We see the results.

01:15:20.400 We saw it in Charlie's case.

01:15:22.860 We've seen it in cases like Minneapolis burning down cities through the George Floyd era.

01:15:30.840 We've seen a lot of political violence.

01:15:33.020 Even these left wing databases are starting to admit that now left wing political violence is more prominent than right wing.

01:15:39.740 And even the ones that are admitting that now, Stu, are removing from their calculations, which are acknowledging it's left wing violence these days.

01:15:46.680 They're removing from their calculations the BLM violence, the protests that we saw against Tesla trying to burn down Tesla dealerships.

01:15:54.560 So many of the left wing causes actually get eliminated.

01:15:57.120 And then things like the murder of Melissa Hortman, House Speaker in Minnesota, get blamed on the right wing, even though that guy was saying he did it under imaginary orders from Tim Walz for whom he worked at one point.

01:16:08.640 Okay, here he doubles down, and here's why he really wanted Ezra Klein to just remain silent.

01:16:16.760 Sod 11.

01:16:19.400 I don't take any joy in saying this, but we sometimes soothe ourselves by pointing out that love, acceptance, warmth, that these are powerful forces.

01:16:30.180 I believe they are.

01:16:31.420 I also believe hate is a powerful force.

01:16:33.780 I believe it's a powerful, powerful, unifying force.

01:16:36.600 Yes, and I think Charlie Kirk was a hate monger.

01:16:40.620 Oh, my God.

01:16:40.980 You know, I really need to say this over and over again.

01:16:43.620 I have a politic that rejects violence, that rejects political violence.

01:16:47.240 I take no joy in the killing of anyone, no matter what they said.

01:16:52.780 But if you ask me what the truth of his life was, you know, the truth of his public life, I would have to tell you it's hate.

01:17:01.380 I would tell you, I'd have to tell you it is the usage of hate and the harnessing of hate towards political ends.

01:17:07.260 I got a question for you, Ta-Nehisi.

01:17:10.320 Was silence an option?

01:17:12.360 Maybe silence was a better option for you as his family is still grieving him and he's barely in the ground.

01:17:17.740 Maybe now would be a time for you to shut the fuck up and stop talking about somebody you didn't know at all in hateful terms and driving up the hate meter on right wing thinking, which is what Charlie was guilty of.

01:17:30.340 As many of us are still making public appearances and trying to live.

01:17:34.000 OK, maybe that's something you could think about in the future.

01:17:37.960 I can't say it better than Mark Halpern said it when he reacted on After Party with Emily Jashinsky.

01:17:42.860 Here he is.

01:17:43.580 Sat 13.

01:17:44.980 That guy was not speaking on teleprompter.

01:17:47.320 He was speaking off the top of his head.

01:17:49.740 So maybe he regrets saying what he said, but fuck him.

01:17:54.080 Because this man was not a hater.

01:17:57.440 Just not just manifestly not.

01:17:59.180 And there's so much evidence on the public record.

01:18:01.320 You didn't have to know him personally to know that he wasn't a disagree with him.

01:18:05.960 He said Charlie said some things I didn't disagree with.

01:18:08.440 He said some things I didn't particularly fancy, but he was not a hater.

01:18:13.320 And and and he's got a widow and two young kids and so many friends who loved him.

01:18:19.540 And this guy's on the National Town Square talking bullshit about someone he didn't know.

01:18:24.980 This is what's wrong with the desire for people to make money and get a claim off of saying false negative things about people they don't know.

01:18:38.320 It's a real fundamental problem.

01:18:39.660 It's existed throughout human history.

01:18:41.520 But now in the digital age, you can do it and you can you can reach millions of people.

01:18:45.760 So fuck him.

01:18:48.900 Perfectly put your thoughts on it, Stu.

01:18:50.520 You know, we have a choice.

01:18:56.580 We can be Coates.

01:18:59.040 We can be Ibram Kendi.

01:19:01.680 We can be Jasmine Crockett.

01:19:04.380 You know, there's that choice.

01:19:06.140 The other path, I think, is Erica Kirk.

01:19:08.040 You know, we all watched her up there in an incredible moment and a moment that was just like the biggest billboard for Christianity that I think I've seen in quite some time saying, like, this is who we are.

01:19:22.180 You're told all the time that we're the haters.

01:19:24.160 You're told all the time that we can't stand you because of the color of your skin or or whatever choices you're making.

01:19:30.180 When in reality, we're the people that are going to say we forgive you when you murder our family members like I it's impossibly hard to hit the Erica Kirk standard, which I'm sure she would point out is short of the Jesus standard.

01:19:46.660 But certainly that's the way I want to aim.

01:19:48.820 That's what I mean.

01:19:49.440 I I want to be Erica when I grow up.

01:19:51.720 I don't know that I can ever achieve it.

01:19:53.100 But but I when I think about who they are and the hate that they bring to the table over and over and over and over again, I'm I'm reminded of the strength that she had in that moment.

01:20:02.820 And man, I just I pray for the strength that I could actually come close to replicating it.

01:20:10.720 Ezra Klein tried to lower the temperature, tried to get a dialogue going across the aisle like Charlie did.

01:20:19.140 And Ta-Nehisi Coates swooped in and crapped all over it. 1.00

01:20:24.600 And while he gave words to I abhor political violence, he was encouraging it by doing what he did.

01:20:32.300 His actions, his actual thoughts on don't reach out across the aisle.

01:20:37.520 Don't openly mourn.

01:20:39.060 Don't praise someone like Charlie Kirk only amps up the hate against Charlie and others who agree with Charlie who are still around.

01:20:47.660 It was an absolutely disgusting, cynical decision on his part.

01:20:53.860 And as Mark points out, he did it intentionally in the public square to change the dialogue around Charlie and around the thoughts that Charlie had that have become mainstream that he finds so abhorrent.

01:21:05.960 So I don't believe him that he abhors political violence.

01:21:09.160 I don't believe him one bit or he wouldn't have shamed Ezra Klein for doing one small but noble thing to try to stop it.

01:21:16.280 Okay, I do have a lot more thoughts on this.

01:21:19.060 I'm going to offer them in a more linear way tomorrow because I just refuse to let the character assassination of Charlie happen.

01:21:27.700 They attack him when he's not here to attack them back, though if he were, he would absolutely eviscerate both of them, Ta-Nehisi Coates and Nicole Hannah-Jones, with ease.

01:21:37.260 So I'll do my best to pick up the mantle tomorrow.

01:21:40.240 Stu, thank you.

01:21:41.920 I'll be listening.

01:21:42.500 I can't wait.

01:21:43.620 All right.

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01:25:18.420 So what has Bad Bunny said about America in the past?

01:25:21.360 I'll give you one guess.

01:25:23.040 Joining me now, Britt Mayer, founder of Rooted Wings and host of The Britt Mayer Show,

01:25:27.300 and Will Witt, author of Do Not Comply and CEO of Pure Basics Collective.

01:25:32.820 It's Britt and Witt.

01:25:34.220 Welcome back to the show.

01:25:35.160 To you both, great to see you.

01:25:37.140 Okay, let's kick it off with this Bad Bunny because he gets selected to play in this and

01:25:42.140 released a statement.

01:25:43.660 What I'm feeling goes beyond myself.

01:25:45.020 It's for those who came before me and ran countless yards so I could come in and score

01:25:49.220 a touchdown.

01:25:49.860 This is for my people, my culture, in our history.

01:25:53.420 But what he said recently when asked about this, the question,

01:26:01.000 you said you wouldn't be giving any concerts in the United States.

01:26:04.680 Was this out of concern about the mass deportations of Latinos?

01:26:08.740 Man, honestly, yes.

01:26:10.760 There was the issue of, like, fucking ice could be outside my concert, and it's something that

01:26:17.280 we were talking about and very concerned about.

01:26:20.020 So I'll just do one date in the United States.

01:26:23.660 Oh, he's going to deign to grace us with his presence at the Super Bowl, Britt.

01:26:29.360 Okay, I'm going to be the first to admit, I'd heard of Bad Bunny.

01:26:34.760 I didn't know who this guy was.

01:26:36.320 So I'm like, who is Bad Bunny?

01:26:38.420 I mean, I know I'm old, but I'm not that there's Bad Bunny for those who are just listening.

01:26:43.380 In a dress with some weird white boots that are manly, and he's got hair on his legs,

01:26:48.220 but he's got this big white dress, and he's got glitter on his eyes.

01:26:51.440 I mean, it's a situation.

01:26:53.640 So clearly, he's not my cup of tea.

01:26:55.620 But then I got to thinking, whose cup of tea is he?

01:26:58.920 And so, okay, this is what I found out going down the rabbit hole on this guy.

01:27:02.880 I had no idea that Barack Obama's best friend, Jay-Z, he actually runs the Super Bowl selection

01:27:08.760 process through his company, Rock Nation.

01:27:11.220 And so as soon as I heard that, it was like, aha, okay, it makes sense.

01:27:15.320 They're just trying to shove woke ideology down America's throat in the platform of the

01:27:21.560 Super Bowl.

01:27:22.080 It makes sense.

01:27:22.520 It's not because of who Bad Bunny is.

01:27:24.180 It's because they want us woke.

01:27:26.820 And that's really what it is, courtesy of Jay-Z and Obama.

01:27:30.200 Yeah.

01:27:30.620 I mean, who are we going to have next year?

01:27:32.260 P. Diddy?

01:27:32.980 I look forward to Sean Diddy Combs in his comeback tour.

01:27:36.440 I mean, that's Jay-Z's other best friend.

01:27:39.300 So you tell me whether this is an active middle finger to all of MAGA and the right wing by putting

01:27:47.460 this guy who likes to dress in women's dresses and who hates the United States so much he

01:27:53.000 won't come here because he's worried about ice raiding his concert as our Super Bowl entertainment.

01:27:58.940 I think it's more than a middle finger just to MAGA and conservatives in this country.

01:28:03.720 I think it's a middle finger to what America is all about.

01:28:06.480 I don't watch football myself, but I remember watching the Super Bowl last year and seeing

01:28:10.920 Kendrick Lamar perform.

01:28:12.440 And I remember thinking if my grandparents were still alive, what would they think about

01:28:16.680 watching this?

01:28:17.820 Can't you put people on who actually represent true American values, who have songs that everyone

01:28:23.480 can dance to?

01:28:24.200 But it's like TikTok slop and these people coming on with these songs that are vulgar and

01:28:29.120 completely out there.

01:28:30.200 And so to me, it seems more not even just against MAGA, but more of a breakdown against American

01:28:34.980 culture.

01:28:35.400 Like if you listen to this guy's songs, I'm telling you, these aren't the songs that you

01:28:38.720 want to be showing your children and things like that.

01:28:40.660 And it in no way represents what I think what the Super Bowl is supposed to represent, which

01:28:44.820 is people coming together, enjoying a night where they can get with their family, their

01:28:48.200 friends, and not have to be paraded around with this garbage that they play. 0.98

01:28:52.380 I wonder whether this is what we're going to get subjected to.

01:28:55.760 Here's Sat 38, where he's performing in drag.

01:29:10.320 This is him, by the way, this very unattractive female looking thing. 1.00

01:29:13.980 Okay, Britt, if that shows up at the Super Bowl, literally the fans are going to get up

01:29:26.040 and walk out.

01:29:27.860 I, okay, I hadn't seen that.

01:29:29.720 So this is just a whole new level of it is woke puke. 0.52

01:29:33.620 That's all it is.

01:29:34.400 It's, it's a regurgitation of all the woke ideology in the flamboyant colors and the obnoxious

01:29:40.420 sounds.

01:29:40.960 It's not English. 0.91

01:29:42.120 And then what in the world?

01:29:43.700 So is he, is he trans?

01:29:45.860 What, what is this guy?

01:29:46.840 I'm completely, okay.

01:29:48.220 I'm, I'm so.

01:29:48.760 He describes himself as sexually fluid.

01:29:51.300 I mean, I don't want to hear bad bunny and fluid in the same sentence after seeing that

01:29:55.720 video.

01:29:56.660 How about we do Forrest Frank for the Super Bowl?

01:29:58.700 Can we, can we submit a petition?

01:30:01.320 Forrest Frank, I would happily bring my kids to see that guy.

01:30:04.780 Not, not a chance.

01:30:06.040 Every parent should turn off as soon as that thing come, whatever that is, comes on.

01:30:10.960 Boycott it.

01:30:11.480 That is, that is so disturbing and gross.

01:30:14.440 I would take Roseanne singing the national anthem again over this guy.

01:30:19.240 Anything.

01:30:19.980 Oh yeah.

01:30:20.200 Literally anything.

01:30:22.120 Okay.

01:30:22.680 Same.

01:30:22.960 Speaking of leftist propaganda that finds its way into our children's lives, because that's

01:30:29.760 the problem with the Super Bowl, Whit, is that little kids watch it, you know?

01:30:33.460 It's, and like every year they put something in the Super Bowl that's inappropriate, whether

01:30:36.520 it's Janet Jackson's boob or J-Lo showing us her vag and Shakira same, like why, I remember

01:30:43.500 my little guy was six when that happened, six.

01:30:45.640 Why is he seeing vag as he's trying to watch a football game with his family and we think

01:30:50.660 it's, you know, family entertainment.

01:30:52.160 Now he's got to see this, this nightmare and the women's dress. 1.00

01:30:54.940 I don't know what that is.

01:30:55.940 And that takes me to Netflix, which has got what's, what it's billing as a kid's show

01:31:01.900 dear, I'm sorry, dead end paranormal park.

01:31:06.300 Now my youngest is 12 and now at the point where he can do some surfing on Netflix and

01:31:11.660 I don't worry too much.

01:31:12.600 You know, I do keep one eye on it.

01:31:14.200 I'm not an idiot, but I'm just saying you, you start to loosen the reins as they get a

01:31:18.000 little older.

01:31:18.600 And I don't know that I would have marked dead end paranormal park as something I needed

01:31:23.280 to pay too close attention to, but I'll show you why you do because here's season

01:31:28.600 one, episode two, South 36.

01:31:34.420 It's not the park.

01:31:36.280 It's, it's me.

01:31:39.140 I'm trans, Norma.

01:31:40.660 And everyone at school knows and everyone at home knows and being here, it's like a whole

01:31:46.400 new place.

01:31:47.560 I can just be Barney and I can choose if and when I tell people I've never been happier.

01:31:52.540 And that's saying something when I spent a day chased by terrifying zombie mascots.

01:31:57.600 Puxley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology.

01:32:02.280 So I think I got to give living here a shot.

01:32:04.920 Don't you?

01:32:05.880 You don't need my permission.

01:32:07.480 I just wouldn't want Courtney as a roommate.

01:32:10.380 We'll be the best of friends.

01:32:14.520 Unbelievable.

01:32:15.160 This is a cartoon for those listening at home.

01:32:16.820 Um, and, and of course in here, well, you've got, um, I've never been happier, never been

01:32:22.460 happier.

01:32:23.200 Sure.

01:32:23.720 Like continuing the lie about transing a child. 0.98

01:32:27.240 Yeah.

01:32:27.700 Let's let the suicide rates speak for themselves.

01:32:29.740 It's 70% for these people who go and have these surgeries.

01:32:32.440 I mean, to say that these people are happier is a laughable at best.

01:32:36.280 So I think when you're seeing this, what you're really seeing is conditioning by the leftist

01:32:40.460 media, by politics in general, by the sports that you were just talking about, putting these

01:32:44.700 things in at the NFL or something like that.

01:32:46.560 It is complete conditioning.

01:32:47.720 And you're making these young kids impressionable and saying, oh, well, this is okay.

01:32:51.240 I can be this.

01:32:52.020 This is cool.

01:32:52.480 This is on my TV.

01:32:53.340 This is on the YouTube that I watch.

01:32:55.480 And so now I want to be this.

01:32:56.660 And they go and tell their parents and the parents, which is honestly, most of this falls

01:33:00.400 back on them are not going and saying, listen, you're not, you're not a boy.

01:33:04.480 You're, you were born a girl, right?

01:33:05.980 They're not going and saying that they're affirming what they're going and saying and

01:33:09.400 not actually telling them that they're being lied to by the propagandizing media.

01:33:13.680 The parents have to take a much bigger stand against these kinds of things when this is

01:33:17.240 going on, because if they don't, they're just going to keep getting away with it because

01:33:20.140 the kids don't know any better.

01:33:21.580 They're watching this and just think, oh, it's cool.

01:33:23.340 It's everywhere.

01:33:24.000 It's everywhere.

01:33:24.560 So you've got the Superbowl doing this to us.

01:33:26.040 You've got Netflix doing this in a children's show.

01:33:27.920 That's a cartoon.

01:33:29.180 And then just the other night, Law and Order, Law and Order SVU had an episode that was ripping

01:33:38.060 on ice, trying to make ice look like a bunch of dirty bastards there. 0.95

01:33:42.660 The premise of the episode, I'm trying to get it straight in my head, but it was basically

01:33:46.540 that an illegal immigrant was the only witness to a rape and he didn't want to show up in 0.91

01:33:54.280 court to testify because the evil ice was going to arrest him and deport him.

01:34:01.000 So Olivia Benson, played by Mariska Hargaday, couldn't make her case because her eyewitness 0.99

01:34:08.000 was an illegal and the big bad ice was going to take him away and made him reluctant to testify.

01:34:12.820 Here's a scene sought 42.

01:34:18.960 Blasco, arrest him.

01:34:20.960 What?

01:34:21.600 Now.

01:34:23.740 Arrest him now.

01:34:25.240 Mr. Ruiz, you're under arrest.

01:34:26.920 Captain Benson, you're here fearing with the federal operation.

01:34:29.340 No, no, no, she's not.

01:34:30.580 Jorge Ruiz is a material witness and he's in the custody of the NYPD.

01:34:33.700 Do you really want to help a rapist go free?

01:34:36.180 He's ours, okay?

01:34:37.380 Take him to holding.

01:34:38.160 Once he provides his testimony, no, no, we'll release him.

01:34:45.200 This you?

01:34:47.240 He's holding up her card.

01:34:49.320 You have been obstructing this operation from the beginning.

01:34:53.360 That is a federal charge.

01:34:55.520 Put your hands behind your back.

01:34:57.260 Oh, no.

01:35:02.900 Captain.

01:35:03.800 It's okay.

01:35:04.520 Stand down, Kurt.

01:35:06.180 Stand down.

01:35:06.880 Handing over her firearm.

01:35:14.380 Everyone's looking disgusted at the ICE agent.

01:35:18.260 The propaganda, Britt.

01:35:20.180 In the face of ICE, getting, like, literally shot at just days ago.

01:35:24.720 Yes, that's what I was going to say was, didn't this episode air right after the ICE facility was targeted?

01:35:31.180 Yes.

01:35:31.540 I just want to know if anyone's still falling for this.

01:35:35.760 I mean, I'm sure there's, like, the subset, right?

01:35:37.300 The minority, the typical actors who are going to fall for whatever is spoon-fed.

01:35:41.060 But the average American who knows now that ICE has been going in and making America safer, cleaning our streets so that we don't have more of the situations that have horrified us over the last few weeks with all of these stories.

01:35:56.220 We have illegal aliens who are here illegally bringing harm to American citizens. 1.00

01:36:03.440 So, for smart thinkers, for the average American, I just wonder if this even passes the test anymore.

01:36:09.680 Or if average Americans are seeing this and just seeing it for what it is.

01:36:12.920 It's just shell propaganda.

01:36:14.700 You can create a story to fit any narrative.

01:36:17.600 I don't think that the average person sees that and thinks, oh, man, they really hit the nail on the head.

01:36:23.100 I'm moved.

01:36:24.000 Like, this really shifts my perspective on ICE.

01:36:26.580 And shame on all those actors. 0.95

01:36:28.080 Shame on all those actors for propagating that. 0.76

01:36:30.060 By the way, Mariska Hargaday likes to bill herself as, like, some woman's activist because she plays an SVU cop in a TV show. 0.70

01:36:39.120 Where is she standing up for the Lake and Riley? 0.99

01:36:41.340 Why isn't she standing up for Jocelyn Nangare, who was raped by a bunch of illegals and then thrown over a bridge at age 12? 0.73

01:36:48.900 I don't think that's going to make it into a Law & Order SVU episode, Will.

01:36:54.460 Yeah, if they really wanted to be accurate.

01:36:56.100 They should have made the cartel or the illegal aliens the people who they should be going after. 1.00

01:36:59.680 But they're never going to do that.

01:37:00.920 And I just love this pandering where they make the liberal woman just seem like such the upstanding person and the white ICE guy is just so evil and terrible.

01:37:11.120 They always do this, where they make it so that they seem like they're so much smarter than us.

01:37:15.300 They're so much better than us.

01:37:17.120 They have so much more courage than us with everything that they do.

01:37:21.160 And to be honest, I'm sick of it.

01:37:22.480 Because you watch really anything on TV or in the movies nowadays, I don't watch TV or movies now, because they say the white guy like me is the bad guy every single time.

01:37:32.260 And I'm tired of watching things where it says I'm the bad guy every single time.

01:37:36.060 I don't want that.

01:37:36.800 I want heroism.

01:37:37.800 I want courage from people, no matter what you look like or who you are, versus just painting us out to be the villain every time.

01:37:44.040 And I think most guys my age are just like, I'm turning all this off.

01:37:47.960 I'm sick of this shit.

01:37:48.700 I mean, it's just awful.

01:37:49.560 It's another reason why Charlie's murder has so affected young men, because they've been told over and over that they're demons, that they're responsible for all of society's ills.

01:38:01.080 And here was a young white man standing up to the mob saying, you don't have to believe that stuff.

01:38:06.320 God loves you just as you are.

01:38:07.960 All of us, even people he didn't want to support in their choices, like trans people, he would say, God loves you.

01:38:14.040 You can have a better life than this, rather than having these surgeries and so on.

01:38:17.360 And what happened?

01:38:18.200 He got shot down.

01:38:19.900 And now they're watching.

01:38:20.600 So a hero to them got killed in front of their very eyes, and they're watching the left celebrate it.

01:38:25.400 It's just all part of the same abuse that we are dumping on our young boys.

01:38:30.480 It's deeply wrong.

01:38:31.980 All right.

01:38:32.160 I have to end it on a more, a lighter note, because we just have to.

01:38:36.620 We have to lighten the mood.

01:38:37.580 And that brings me to Rosie O'Donnell, who I save for you, Britt. 0.96

01:38:40.360 I save Rosie O'Donnell for you.

01:38:41.700 Oh, thank you.

01:38:42.060 I was hoping.

01:38:43.580 Thank you.

01:38:44.380 She went on the really inaptly named Nicole Wallace's The Best People podcast and have had a revelation about her conversation with her therapist.

01:38:56.280 When people say, I changed my mind, we have to say, welcome back to reality.

01:39:05.840 Let's all be Americans together, right?

01:39:09.440 Because what's happening is not only happening to Democrats, it's happening to everyone.

01:39:15.860 And when the Medicaid cuts go in, old people are going to start to die, to die. 0.99

01:39:23.820 What he's done yet hasn't even hit us yet.

01:39:27.900 And if he's not stopped now, we have lost our country.

01:39:32.100 And I don't know, Nicole, how it is that some people cannot see it.

01:39:40.060 My therapist said, why are you so upset?

01:39:43.540 And I said to her, why are you not?

01:39:46.100 Yeah.

01:39:48.140 Yeah, I have that conversation, too, because the gaslighting that I think you're alluding to, if you're a thoughtful, informed person, you do stop and say, well, maybe it is me.

01:40:01.420 It is you.

01:40:02.780 The therapist should have given it to her straight, Britt.

01:40:05.980 She didn't need to pay for the therapy because they just figured it out together right there in real time for us all to see.

01:40:11.300 No, I think it's rich that Rosie O'Donnell is in exile. 0.91

01:40:15.660 I think she's in Ireland because she's protesting Trump.

01:40:18.420 But then she still really wants to do commentary on Trump.

01:40:22.960 It's like she can't quit him.

01:40:24.140 It's like the boyfriend you break up with, but then you keep talking about him and obsessing over him and you're going on podcasts to talk about him.

01:40:30.940 It's like just either you're over him and you're in Ireland happily or just come back here.

01:40:35.520 You know, like fight for what you want here.

01:40:37.640 I think that it's rich that she left and she still can't leave Trump.

01:40:42.320 It makes me laugh.

01:40:43.600 I've got to play this last bite of her TikTok, Sot30C. 0.98

01:40:50.800 Oh, God, she's mouthing. 0.99

01:40:55.100 Hot stepper.

01:40:59.680 Oh, no.

01:41:00.380 Oh, Will, I don't know.

01:41:10.360 You're young and you're hip.

01:41:12.000 Does this change your opinion of Rosie O'Donnell at all?

01:41:14.760 I'm a fan now.

01:41:15.800 I'm a huge fan now.

01:41:16.900 After watching that, I'm going to go follow her and I think I'll be doing everything that she does.

01:41:21.060 I'm going to go talk to my therapist and ask why they're not so angry.

01:41:24.640 They should be a lot angrier.

01:41:25.920 A lot angrier.

01:41:26.040 You guys put her on the Super Bowl. 0.95

01:41:27.580 She should go on the Super Bowl tour. 0.99

01:41:29.320 I mean, Britt, as a former beauty queen, like a little foundation, maybe like, you know,

01:41:36.160 just a little something, a little something, I guess, you know, just a little, a few touches.

01:41:41.540 I and I won't charge as much as her therapist.

01:41:43.540 Come on, Rosie. 0.99

01:41:44.280 You and I can just a little talk it out.

01:41:45.980 I think it can make her a lot happier when you did.

01:41:48.580 I was impressed with her lip sync. 0.60

01:41:50.420 The lip sync was impressive. 0.98

01:41:51.700 I, you know, I liked it.

01:41:53.920 OK.

01:41:54.460 All right.

01:41:55.020 So we left it on a positive note.

01:41:57.240 Will has found his new role model and we will get back to you on how that goes.

01:42:01.400 Great to see you both.

01:42:02.420 Britt Mayer, Will Witt.

01:42:03.700 Till the next time.

01:42:05.100 Thank you.

01:42:06.300 All right.

01:42:06.600 We're back tomorrow with Glenn Greenwald.

01:42:08.120 See you then.

01:42:10.740 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

01:42:12.580 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - September 30, 2025

Hegseth vs. ＂Fat＂ Generals, and Coates' Hateful Lies About Charlie Kirk, with Stu Burguiere, Britt Mayer, and Will Witt ｜ Ep. 1160

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