The Megyn Kelly Show - February 27, 2026


Hillary Clinton Questioned in Epstein Probe, Elite Supreme Court Lawyer Convicted： AM Update 2⧸27


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00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Friday, February 27th, 2026. And this is your
00:00:08.360 AM update. I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or communication with him.
00:00:15.840 Hillary Clinton appears before the House Oversight Committee in its search for answers on Jeffrey
00:00:20.340 Epstein. New reporting claims current White House chief of staff Susie Wiles' phone call with her
00:00:26.540 lawyer was secretly recorded by the FBI. Attorney Will Chamberlain breaks it down. An elite
00:00:33.440 Supreme Court litigator convicted of tax evasion relating to his secret life as a high-stakes
00:00:40.620 poker player. Okay, how much have you had to drink today? I mean, I've been drinking beers.
00:00:44.780 A twist in the murder case against the man accused of killing hockey star Johnny Goudreau,
00:00:50.160 as the accused driver now claims he was not legally drunk at the time of the accident.
00:00:54.660 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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00:01:47.920 Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appearing behind closed doors before the House Oversight
00:01:55.140 Committee in a long-sought-after deposition tied to the panel's investigation into the DOJ's handling
00:02:01.360 of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Lawmakers traveling to Chappaqua, New York, the Clintons' hometown,
00:02:06.980 for two days of depositions, with former President Bill Clinton set to testify later today.
00:02:11.240 After months of delay and theatrics in response to their subpoenas, remember, every person has to
00:02:19.520 decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles,
00:02:25.440 and its people, no matter the consequences. For us, that time is now, just before they caved like an
00:02:33.680 overdone souffle. Now, both Clintons agreeing to sit for questioning. Both deny any wrongdoing related
00:02:40.220 to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Former President Bill Clinton, long known to have
00:02:44.920 associated with Epstein throughout the early 2000s, including multiple trips on Epstein's private jet
00:02:50.840 and a questionable picture involving Epstein's hot tub and a woman. Epstein's associate Ghislaine Maxwell
00:02:57.400 notably photographed at Chelsea Clinton's 2010 wedding after Epstein's conviction. Chairman James Comer
00:03:04.220 yesterday ahead of the deposition. It is a bipartisan investigation. The American people have a lot of
00:03:10.140 questions. To my knowledge, the Clintons haven't answered very many, if any, questions about their
00:03:16.120 knowledge or involvement with Epstein and Maxwell. Again, no one's accusing at this moment the Clintons
00:03:22.380 of any wrongdoing. They're going to have due process. But we have a lot of questions. And the purpose of the
00:03:27.840 whole investigation is to try to understand many things about Epstein. How did he accumulate so much
00:03:35.540 wealth? How was he able to surround himself with some of the most powerful men in the world? Was he an
00:03:42.420 asset for our government or any other government? These are the questions that we're going to ask
00:03:48.980 over the next two days. CNN reporting the Clintons and the committee members agreed to focus on five
00:03:54.160 areas. Alleged mismanagement of the DOJ's investigation into Epstein and Maxwell. The circumstances
00:04:00.420 and subsequent investigations of Epstein's 2019 death, ways the federal government could effectively
00:04:06.100 combat sex trafficking rings, how Epstein and Maxwell sought to curry favor to protect their
00:04:11.860 illegal activities, and potential violations of ethics rules related to elected officials.
00:04:17.100 In her opening statement, Secretary Clinton saying, quote, I do not recall ever encountering Mr.
00:04:21.860 Epstein. I never flew on his plane or visited his island, homes, or offices. I have nothing to add to
00:04:27.540 that. You have compelled me to testify fully aware that I have no knowledge that would assist your
00:04:32.100 investigation in order to distract attention from President Trump's actions and to cover them up
00:04:37.940 despite legitimate calls for answers. The biggest disruption of the day coming after a photo from
00:04:43.440 inside the closed door deposition leaked online. Podcast host Benny Johnson posting a photo taken by
00:04:49.540 Congresswoman Lauren Boebert showing Mrs. Clinton seated at the table in a blue suit. The proceedings
00:04:55.680 on hold for about 30 minutes after the image went viral before resuming as scheduled. After hours of
00:05:01.380 questioning, Secretary Clinton speaking to reporters after. Well, I have just finished testifying. I
00:05:08.420 answered every one of their questions as fully as I could based on what I knew. And what I knew is what I
00:05:19.180 said in my statement this morning. I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or
00:05:28.080 communication with him. I knew Ghislaine Maxwell casually as an acquaintance. But whatever they asked me, I did my
00:05:37.180 very best to respond. I don't know how many times I had to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein. I never went to his
00:05:45.980 island. I never went to his homes. I never went to his offices. So it's on the record numerous times.
00:05:54.160 Chairman Comer stating earlier in the day, the committee will release the video and the transcript
00:05:58.200 of the deposition following the standard review process between both parties. Meantime, more high
00:06:03.640 profile fallout tied to newly disclosed Epstein records. World Economic Forum President Borga Brenda
00:06:10.240 stepping down after documents showed he met Epstein for three business dinners in 2018 and 2019,
00:06:17.260 as well as exchanging texts and emails. Stateside, former Harvard President Larry Summers will officially
00:06:23.100 resign from his teaching role at the university at the end of the academic year. Records released in
00:06:28.940 November revealing a close personal relationship between Epstein and Summers, with Epstein at one point
00:06:34.540 referring to himself as the married Summers' wingman. Summers has been on leave from Harvard since
00:06:40.760 November, also stepping down from his role on the board of OpenAI late last year. New reporting from
00:06:48.620 Reuters revealing the FBI subpoenaed the phone records of FBI Director Cash Patel and White House Chief of
00:06:55.120 Staff Susie Wiles when they were private citizens and even secretly recorded a phone call between
00:07:01.180 Wiles and her lawyer. According to the report, the as-yet-unnamed attorney was aware of and consented
00:07:08.760 to the recording, but Wiles was unaware she was being taped, that attorney now reportedly disputing
00:07:15.160 that accusation. Director Patel telling Reuters that in 2022 and 2023, the FBI subpoenaed toll records
00:07:22.640 from their phone companies, which indicate when calls were placed and to whom, but not the content of
00:07:28.660 the calls themselves. The timing of the records makes it likely they were part of former special
00:07:33.400 counsel Jack Smith's investigation into President Trump's alleged mishandling of classified materials
00:07:39.160 at Mar-a-Lago. Patel also telling the outlet that investigators marked the files as prohibited,
00:07:45.420 making them difficult to locate in the bureau's computer system. Reuters reporting it remains unclear
00:07:50.920 why investigators sought the records, whether Patel or Wiles themselves were under investigation,
00:07:56.640 or who approved the subpoenas. At least 10 FBI employees dismissed following the discovery of
00:08:03.040 the subpoenas, according to the outlet. In a statement to Reuters, Patel writing, quote,
00:08:07.760 it is outrageous and deeply alarming that the previous FBI leadership secretly subpoenaed my own phone
00:08:14.080 records, along with those of now White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, using flimsy pretexts and
00:08:20.080 burying the entire process in prohibited case files designed to evade all oversight. We spoke with senior
00:08:26.800 counsel at the Article 3 project, Will Chamberlain, who says the Reuters report buried the most explosive
00:08:32.800 detail. Yeah, so there's a piece of reporting from the Reuters article where the story was all broken,
00:08:40.560 and it had this small tidbit buried 10 paragraphs down that mentioned that the FBI had recorded a phone
00:08:46.980 call between Susie Wiles and her lawyer, and that the lawyer had been aware that the phone call was
00:08:52.260 being recorded and consented to it, but Wiles herself was not aware. As a lawyer myself, that shocked me.
00:09:00.100 That's not something I would ever do as a lawyer to my client. It violates a number of different
00:09:06.100 rules of professional responsibility. And moreover, it potentially opens up criminal liability and civil
00:09:12.340 liability to both Wiles' lawyer and to the FBI agents involved. The lawyer in question now disputes
00:09:20.340 that he was aware the FBI was recording the call, telling Axios reporter Mark Caputo, quote,
00:09:26.340 if I ever pulled a stunt like that, I wouldn't and shouldn't have a license to practice law. I'm as
00:09:32.180 shocked as Susie. We asked Chamberlain what the legal implications could be if the Reuters reporting
00:09:37.700 is correct. Under 18 U.S.C. Section 2511, it's a federal crime to wrongly intercept or disclose
00:09:47.140 wire communications, and that's up to a five-year count. And even if there's a warrant, federal law
00:09:53.600 enforcement is under the obligation to try and minimize the collection of privileged information.
00:10:01.080 And here they did the opposite, and they actively sought it out, which is just unheard of.
00:10:04.740 So, you know, even if they have a warrant to tap Susie Wiles' phone or something like that,
00:10:10.860 actively trying to make a phone call happen between Wiles and her lawyer that she thinks
00:10:16.540 is privileged is not something that would be covered by such a warrant. And therefore,
00:10:20.940 it could easily be seen as a crime, as, you know, the wrongful use of a wiretap and subject
00:10:26.320 the FBI to criminal liability and also potentially a conspiracy claim, a conspiracy charge as well.
00:10:32.080 — Axios Caputo reports Wiles believes her attorney's denial, that he knew anything about
00:10:38.200 this, and thinks the Biden FBI may have lied about the incident. Chamberlain saying this reporting
00:10:44.140 raises more questions about the actions of the Biden FBI.
00:10:48.040 — I'm willing to take Susie Wiles' lawyer at his word because, as we discussed, the conduct
00:10:56.560 alleged here would be outrageous for any lawyer to engage in. That said, this opens up a whole
00:11:03.340 bunch of other questions. Who at the FBI would have lied about this? Are the people who briefed
00:11:09.800 Reuters being dishonest? Or perhaps was it the Biden FBI officials who filed the paperwork about this
00:11:17.880 phone call when it happened? Did they lie about the consent being given by Wiles' lawyer? So it's—so
00:11:25.180 I have a lot more questions than answers now, even as I think that the Wiles' lawyer was likely telling
00:11:31.020 the truth.
00:11:31.420 Coming up, one of the most respected members of the U.S. Supreme Court bar convicted after hiding
00:11:40.020 millions in income from a shadow career at high-stakes poker tables. The man charged in
00:11:45.900 connection with the death of hockey star Johnny Goudreau and his brother Matty, now claiming prosecutors
00:11:51.320 got the blood alcohol evidence wrong and pushing to dismiss the case.
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00:13:04.500 Revered Supreme Court litigator and SCOTUS blog co-founder Tom Goldstein convicted Wednesday of
00:13:13.300 felony federal tax evasion and related charges tied to his secret high-stakes poker activities.
00:13:20.680 Goldstein, widely known as one of the foremost Supreme Court litigators, a sober, serious, and
00:13:26.340 very well-respected advocate, arguing more than 40 cases before the high court. That is,
00:13:32.220 before he abruptly stepped away in 2023. According to his bio, quote, only three lawyers in the court's
00:13:38.780 modern history have argued more cases in private practice. He was counsel on more successful
00:13:44.020 petitions for certiorari, requests asking the justices to take up a case, than any other lawyer
00:13:50.120 in private practice. Outside the courtroom, Goldstein co-founding SCOTUS blog in 2002, a site which
00:13:56.580 quickly became essential reading for court watchers, earning national prominence for real-time analysis
00:14:02.140 Supreme Court decisions, including its pivotal role in clarifying the high court's ruling on the
00:14:07.980 Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, in 2012. Here, the moment when yours truly corrected the record
00:14:14.620 live on air after early confusion by others about the Obamacare decision.
00:14:19.740 Breaking news here on the Fox News channel, the individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional.
00:14:28.860 He says the individual mandate cannot be sustained under Congress's power to regulate commerce.
00:14:33.900 That means the mandate is gone.
00:14:35.920 Megan, you're seeing something now.
00:14:37.080 We're getting conflicting information.
00:14:38.700 We're getting conflicting information. If you follow SCOTUSblog.com, which covers the high court,
00:14:44.140 they say that despite what Shannon just read, that the individual mandate is surviving as a tax.
00:14:51.660 This is not confirmed by us yet. This is according to SCOTUSblog, which also has the opinion.
00:14:56.380 They're reporting that the individual mandate survives as a tax. So it may have been struck
00:15:02.460 down under the Commerce Clause power, but but spared under the taxing power. Everyone's still
00:15:08.220 trying to figure this out. It's very fluid right now. Behind that prestige and veneer of respectability,
00:15:14.300 we now know Goldstein was living a double life. A federal grand jury returning a 22-count indictment
00:15:20.620 against him in January 2025, stunning the legal world. A judge ultimately dismissing six of the
00:15:27.500 charges, leaving 16, including one count of tax evasion, eight counts of aiding and abetting in the
00:15:33.500 preparation of false and fraudulent tax returns, four counts of willful failure to pay taxes,
00:15:38.780 and three counts of making a false statement on a loan application. Prosecutors alleging that
00:15:43.900 between 2016 and 2023, while running an elite boutique law firm and regularly appearing before the most
00:15:51.180 prestigious court in the world, Goldstein was regularly playing in high-stakes poker games involving
00:15:57.660 millions of dollars and then not coming clean about those millions. According to the
00:16:03.180 indictment, he diverted legal fees owed to his firm into his own personal accounts, using that
00:16:09.740 money to cover his gambling debts, and allegedly used firm assets to pay off poker losses, disguising
00:16:15.900 those payments as legitimate legal expenses. Prosecutors further alleging he used his firm to pay
00:16:21.580 salaries and health insurance benefits to women with whom he had, quote, intimate personal relationships,
00:16:27.900 despite them performing little or no work for the firm, and despite the fact that he shared his law
00:16:34.220 practice with, um, his wife, not to mention other law partners. The indictment also claiming Goldstein
00:16:41.020 failed to report or significantly understated millions in gambling winnings, and for many years did not pay
00:16:47.100 taxes he acknowledged he owed, all while spending millions on personal expenses including gambling debts,
00:16:52.620 travel, vacation rentals, and more. Authorities also accusing Goldstein of submitting false mortgage
00:16:59.020 applications to two separate lending companies, namely failing to disclose his serious gambling debts.
00:17:06.300 Goldstein declining two plea deals ahead of the six-week trial beginning mid-January in Greenbelt,
00:17:11.500 Maryland. At trial, the Fed's saying Goldstein took in about 50 million bucks in poker winnings in 2016
00:17:17.340 alone, including 22 million won playing in Asia. Prosecutor Sean Beatty saying Goldstein's scheme
00:17:24.380 began unraveling when a fellow gambler who felt ripped off by Goldstein alerted the IRS. After two
00:17:31.580 days of deliberating, jurors finding Goldstein guilty on the majority of charges, acquitting him on four
00:17:37.260 counts tied to aiding and assisting in the preparation of false tax returns. According to the DOJ,
00:17:43.420 Goldstein now faces a maximum penalty of five years for tax evasion, three years for each count of
00:17:50.220 helping to prepare false tax returns, one year for each count of willful failure to pay taxes,
00:17:55.980 and 30 years for each count of making false statements to mortgage lenders. The sentencing date
00:18:01.900 not yet set. Goldstein is likely to appeal. Wonder if it'll go up before SCOTUS.
00:18:08.060 The murder case surrounding late hockey star Johnny Gaudreau and his brother Matthew hitting a critical
00:18:15.820 turn as the accused drunk driver claims he was not over the legal limit when he struck and killed the
00:18:22.060 brothers in 2024. Gaudreau, a beloved NHL forward and would-be Team USA Olympian, was 31 years old. He and
00:18:31.500 his brother, 29-year-old Matthew, riding bicycles single file along the shoulder of a road in Oldman's
00:18:38.300 Township, New Jersey, the night before their sister's wedding, when Sean Higgins allegedly slammed into
00:18:44.620 them with his vehicle. A driver ahead of Higgins telling police Higgins had been driving aggressively,
00:18:51.180 she and another vehicle slowing and moving left to safely pass the cyclists. Higgins then speeding up
00:18:57.900 and veering right straight into the brothers. Both men married fathers whose wives were pregnant at
00:19:04.460 the time, dying at the scene. Higgins pulling over about a quarter mile from the scene.
00:19:10.620 Hear body cam footage from the arrest. Where were you before Taco Bell?
00:19:14.860 Great. Uh, my house. Okay, how much have you had to drink today?
00:19:18.700 I mean, I've been drinking beers, but I haven't had one in like two hours. Okay.
00:19:23.340 So since the accident, like probably an hour or so.
00:19:26.460 Authorities initially reporting Higgins' blood alcohol level, or BAC, at .087. That's above the
00:19:34.460 legal limit of .08. But during a Tuesday hearing, Higgins' defense attorney arguing expert analysis
00:19:41.180 shows only Higgins' plasma was tested. Testing of his whole blood, the defense argues, puts his BAC at
00:19:48.780 .075 below the legal threshold. Higgins facing multiple charges, including two counts each of
00:19:56.220 reckless vehicular homicide, aggravated manslaughter, evidence tampering, and leaving the scene of a
00:20:02.140 fatal accident, carrying a potential sentence of up to 70 years if convicted. The defense seeking to
00:20:08.380 dismiss the case entirely, arguing the BAC discrepancy may have influenced the original grand
00:20:14.220 jury indictment, requesting that prosecutors present this case again. Prosecutors say they're reviewing
00:20:19.980 the new findings with their own experts, the judge saying if prosecutors accept the defense's BAC
00:20:25.340 claim, they can pursue a new indictment. Higgins sets a return to court April 14th when prosecutors
00:20:31.820 are expected to reveal whether they agree with the revised BAC analysis and provide an update on
00:20:37.820 possible plea negotiations. Even if they need a new indictment, they will almost certainly seek one.
00:20:44.380 Running down two bikers and allegedly leaving the scene isn't legal, even if the driver was not
00:20:50.140 legally drunk. Before his death, Goudreau was on track to represent Team USA at the Winter Olympics.
00:20:56.860 Following the American's gold medal victory over Canada, the Olympic team honoring his memory by carrying
00:21:02.940 his number 13 jersey onto the ice and including his young children in the championship celebration.
00:21:09.900 Goudreau's widow, Meredith, speaking to ABC about the emotional moment.
00:21:14.300 I was so thankful for that. I was really, really proud of them as a team. And then
00:21:21.100 I felt really proud of John because everything they did and that they continue to do is out of
00:21:27.260 respect and love for him. So I was just very, very proud and I'm very thankful to them for including
00:21:34.780 my kids in it and just honoring my husband the way they do. It's the classiest thing.
00:21:43.740 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show,
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