Trump turns himself in to be formally arraigned on criminal charges brought by a Democrat who ran on the promise of him being an aggressive anti-Trumperer. There s a lot to dissect regarding the legal ramifications, the political fallout, and the onslaught of media coverage. Plus, we hear from Rick Grinnell, one of Trump s closest confidants, and he will be with the president tonight.
00:07:41.460He's been denied a speedy trial, a fair trial, a trial in the right venue.
00:07:46.360And the misdemeanor is the made up misdemeanor.
00:07:49.760Here's what the misdemeanor basically says.
00:07:51.600It says that when you pay hush money to hide an adulterous affair with a former porn star and you pay $130,000 to make sure your wife, your family, the voters, the business associates don't learn about it.
00:08:04.300You must immediately record that in your public corporate records.
00:08:08.700You must stay in your corporate records.
00:08:10.040I paid the money to keep it quiet, but now I'm telling you I paid the money to keep it quiet and it'll be on the Megyn Kelly show tomorrow.
00:08:17.940Has anybody ever truthfully described what a hush money payment was for?
00:08:22.940Has anybody in history ever been indicted for that?
00:08:25.680If you don't have that, you don't have anything because you can't get the felony without first getting the misdemeanor.
00:08:50.260But Alan is one of the most accomplished, if not the most accomplished appellate lawyers in America, especially when it comes to criminal law.
00:08:56.060And you're already looking ahead to the appeal because then it would go up on appeal to a more stable body of lawyers, judges who would have to take a look at this and ultimately potentially to the New York State Court of Appeals, which is our highest court, to take a look at whether these issues like statute of limitations, issues of law could have been decided and whether this ever should have gotten to a jury.
00:09:50.000If you're going to indict somebody who you've promised to get and who is a member of the other party and he's running against the head of your party, you better darn well have a strong case.
00:10:01.380This case is like Michael Cohen going in front of a grand jury and saying, I, with my own eyes, saw him rip the tag off a mattress in 2006.
00:10:13.280And it says clearly on the mattress tag, ripping off that tag is in violation of the law.
00:10:18.980But nobody ever gets prosecuted for that.
00:11:12.900One of the other things you've been railing about justfully, I think, is the possibility of a gag order in this case.
00:11:19.740And these guys yesterday thought it was potentially likely that perhaps they'd give Trump some some leeway to start.
00:11:27.380But that if he keeps going off, as he has been all day on Truth Social, that he might try to muzzle him.
00:11:33.980Now, he hasn't yet faced the judge at this at the time of this recording.
00:11:38.180But they were saying as soon as he gets in front of the judge, he will no longer be able to criticize the judge.
00:11:42.600He will no longer be able to criticize the prosecutor and could potentially be slapped with a gag order that stops him from talking about the case.
00:11:49.520You have strong thoughts on gagging Trump.
00:11:52.200Well, that would be a clear violation, not only of his First Amendment rights, but of yours and mine.
00:11:58.200Justice Marshall once said, wrote in an opinion that the First Amendment has two elements, one, the right of the speaker to speak, but just as important, the right of the listener to listen.
00:12:07.720So I would immediately put together a group of the best First Amendment lawyers on a voluntary pro bono basis, representing you and me and everybody else in America and take the case as far up as we can to the Supreme Court on the issue of the gag order.
00:12:23.900The gag order would so clearly be unconstitutional.
00:12:26.500Having a democratically appointed or elected judge tell a Republican candidate for president that he can't campaign for president and a judge telling anybody he can't criticize the judge.
00:12:39.180What could be a greater violation of the First Amendment than a judge telling a defendant that you can't criticize me?
00:12:47.620Can I tell both of my lawyers yesterday and I said what you're telling me that today, this morning, he can criticize the judge and the D.A.
00:12:54.920But after the arraignment tomorrow, he's not allowed to.
00:15:36.640OK, then secondly, there's a report by Paul Sperry in The New York Post.
00:15:40.240He's a very good reporter, very in-depth investigative reporter who says that Bragg, we know that
00:15:45.100he campaigned on all the times he sued Trump and so on.
00:15:47.820But Paul Sperry reports that, quote, before recently locking her account, Alvin Bragg's wife, Jamila Pontenbragg, even bragged on Twitter that her husband was going to nail Trump on some unspecified felonies.
00:19:42.700I'm going to a seder on Wednesday night without members of my family because they will not eat with me at a seder because I defended Donald Trump.
00:19:52.280And you openly say you're not a Trump voter like you.
00:19:55.800You've openly said many times you're not voting for Trump.
00:20:14.840He's the special prosecutor appointed to look into the Mar-a-Lago documents and whether Trump obstructed justice in withholding those documents and on a broader level, whether he committed some crime in connection with January 6th.
00:20:26.560That's what Jack Smith is investigating.
00:20:28.400This is based off of The Washington Post reporting yesterday that said, according to The Washington Post, Trump was a lot more involved in preventing documents from being turned over to the National Archives and to the DOJ.
00:20:41.420than we knew before, that Trump was telling others to mislead the government officials and that after the subpoena came in, Trump ignored multiple requests from the advisers to return the documents and actually went down there and looked himself and made sure documents were not turned over and so on and so forth.
00:20:59.560Now, what this Atlantic article argues is, number one, this is not like Joe Biden with his documents in the garage and in the university setting at the UPenn or Mike Pence having some documents.
00:21:11.880This is not like that because, number one, the documents Trump had are, quote, extremely sensitive, reportedly covering nuclear secrets and programs aimed at China and Iran.
00:21:21.080That may matter because it is tougher to declassify nuclear secrets, even if you're a president, according to what I read.
00:21:27.240Second, when the government asked Trump for the documents, he, unlike Biden and Pence, quoting here, refused to hand them over.
00:21:33.580This truculence is why the FBI ended up making the unannounced search.
00:21:37.060And then they talk about what he did even after the subpoena hit him.
00:21:42.700The Democrats are excited about this case and kind of like they're interested in brag, but they love Jack Smith and they love the Mar-a-Lago investigation.
00:22:13.380If Trump committed any crimes that anybody else would be prosecuted for, he should be prosecuted.
00:22:19.880He's not above, he's not below the law.
00:22:22.280The problem with the Mar-a-Lago case is Trump may claim, his lawyers haven't said it in court, but they may claim that all of this was declassified by Trump before he left office.
00:22:46.020After that comes Washington, D.C., which he'll win on because he used the words patriotically and peacefully, and that puts him within the First Amendment.
00:22:56.980The Atlanta-Georgia case, he'll win because he used the word on tape.
00:23:14.140And so I think the only defenses he has in Florida are, first, did he declassify?
00:23:20.140And second, he will make the argument that, although there may not be similarities between what Trump did and what Biden did and what Pence did,
00:23:29.240you can't indict one former president for classified material unless you go after the others as well.
00:24:44.740Hillary Clinton was walking around with a hat, basically saying what about ism?
00:24:49.180That's a legitimate argument, particularly when a man is running for president of the United States against politicians who are trying to prosecute him.
00:25:25.060The other is the Hillary Clinton test.
00:25:26.960If they didn't prosecute Hillary Clinton, they ruined her chances of becoming president.
00:25:31.860When Comey got up and made his ill-advised statement, but in his ill-advised statement, he said she was careless and reckless, but nobody else has been previously prosecuted for that.
00:25:50.100You have to have to compare some comparisons when you're going after the president and a future president.
00:25:56.700I know you've been raising that point, too, which is very good, which is not only is it the first time a former president's been indicted, but this is the presumptive nominee almost at this point.
00:26:06.900I mean, he's certainly the leading candidate for the next presidential race on the GOP side.
00:26:12.040That's what's made and being indicted by an opponent, a political opponent, somebody who's on the other side.
00:26:16.860So but here's my last question, you know, because as somebody who's, I mean, truly one of the most respected lawyers in America, how bad is that?
00:26:28.340There's a reason nobody's ever crossed these lines.
00:26:30.420And it's not that no other president or leading candidate for the nomination has ever come close to a legal line.
00:26:37.740That's not the reason this has never happened before.
00:26:39.860They have sicked so much firepower on Trump from the moment he got elected from the impeachments and Russia, Russia, Russia, and the number of lawsuits that have been brought against him.
00:26:51.160And then since he left office since January 6th, then all the special special counsel and local counsel and D.A.'s looking in.
00:26:57.260There's no question they'd find something and they would have done that on probably Barack Obama and certainly Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and so on.
00:27:05.340So I'm really worried about where this is going, and yet I can't say it would be foolish for the Republicans to do it, to respond in kind.
00:27:25.760He said any prosecutor can rummage through the hundreds of statute books and the thousands of regulations and find something to pick on somebody with, and that would be the end of the rule of law in America.
00:27:53.440Listen to Robert Jackson, a centrist conservative, a Democrat to be sure, but he warned about this day, and this is a day that I never thought in my 60 years of practicing law I would ever experience in America.
00:28:13.660I'm going to devote the rest of my life to defending the Constitution against my friends, fellow Democrats, liberals and leftists, because they are the ones today who are the new McCarthyites, who are posing the greatest danger to liberty, freedom and democracy.
00:28:55.220Up next, National Review's Charlie Cook, who's no Trump fan, but has got some serious problems with what's going down against him right now.
00:29:04.080Stand by for that, and later, Rick Grinnell.
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00:29:41.400Here with me now, Charles C.W. Cook, Senior Writer for National Review and host of the Charles C.W. Cook Podcast.
00:29:48.100Charles, we are awaiting the actual arraignment at this hour, but we expect it to be a 34-count indictment based on all the alleged falsifications of business records.
00:30:00.920We still believe at this hour that it stems from the Stormy Daniels Hush money that was paid by Michael Cohen.
00:30:07.560Trump has said before he didn't know about it, and Michael Cohen's word is going to be very important in this investigation.
00:30:14.480He's a convicted felon and not a reliable man.
00:30:18.580We've heard reports that they're going to have business documents that may support Michael Cohen's word,
00:30:22.820but the other star witness is a porn star who's been completely lionized by the media now.
00:30:27.380But so far as I can tell, Stormy Daniels' greatest accomplishment has been several movies whose names I cannot repeat in polite company.
00:30:33.760And this is a person who slept with a married man and then threatened to expose him right before a presidential election and then took a payoff to keep quiet about it.
00:30:44.440So she's the hero. Michael Cohen, convicted felon, is the hero.
00:30:48.080And Donald Trump is going to be the villain, both in Alvin Bragg's telling of this whole thing and in that of the media.
00:30:55.400So how do you how do you see what's going on today?
00:30:58.200Well, I think it's a profound mistake.
00:31:01.380I think it's a mistake specifically for Alvin Bragg to have brought this case.
00:31:07.300And I think it's a mistake more broadly for a prosecutor who belongs to and is backed by one of the two major parties in the country to have given in to pressure and sought this indictment.
00:31:23.640A great deal of the conversations that I have heard about this take place at this abstract level.
00:31:32.860Are you pro-Trump? Are you anti-Trump?
00:31:36.540Should Trump or any other former president or prospective president be above the law?
00:31:43.620But those aren't really the right questions to ask.
00:31:47.340The right question to ask is, is this a strong case?
00:31:51.180Would this case have been brought against anyone else?
00:31:54.700And I think that the answer is obviously no.
00:31:59.060I wouldn't say that if there was sufficient evidence that Donald Trump had committed a serious crime, that he should be let off because he was president.
00:32:08.040That would be ridiculous. That would create a bizarre incentive structure.
00:32:11.760But this case, which has specific facts and is circumscribed by specific laws, is weak.
00:32:22.100The predecessor to Alvin Bragg, Cy Vance, dropped this case because it was weak.
00:32:29.660In fact, the New York Times reported that the same people, the same office that has brought this case against Trump, considered for a while bringing a case against Stormy Daniels on the grounds that she was extorting Trump, which she did.
00:32:46.280Both sides actually did what they've been accused of here morally.
00:32:49.000Donald Trump did cheat on his wife with this porn star, and this porn star did extract money from Donald Trump to keep it quiet.
00:32:57.880The question is whether it is the sort of crime for which a normal person would be prosecuted and whether the case is likely to stand up in court.
00:35:22.780But it cannot be the case that this is now a factor in our politics that is only used in one direction.
00:35:33.220We've seen a great deal of that over the last 40 or 50 years, that only one party gets to use this law or that law or this tactic.
00:35:44.680And after a while, the other side rationally says, well, no way, which was, of course, why Arvin Bragg shouldn't have done this in the first instance.
00:35:54.720A good example against my instinct, against Alan Dershowitz's instinct, would be the special counsel law, which was only repealed, I believe, once Republicans had used it against Democrats in the late 1990s.
00:36:15.120That did demonstrate to both sides that there were flaws in that approach to federal law enforcement and led to a bipartisan effort to get rid of it.
00:36:29.600But, you know, we don't want to live through that, even if that would be the right course, even if the only point at which this will become obvious to everyone involved in our politics is for some sort of retaliation.
00:36:41.720And we're not going to enjoy living through that. And I really wish we hadn't started this process.
00:36:46.400I just, you know, it's like I. I remember when Trump first got elected, there was this Twitter account that I then followed that would document the norms he was breaching.
00:36:56.660You know, some of them actually were breached and some of them were made up.
00:36:59.660And you look at what these Democrats have done in terms of the norms, right, trying, trying to get rid of the filibuster in the Senate, trying to add extra states, right, trying talking openly about packing the Supreme Court with extra justices and disobeying Supreme Court rulings that they choose not to follow because they find them upsetting.
00:37:22.720You know, the Merrick Garland sicking the DOJ on parents who showed up to object to covid protocols or critical race theory and then leaking it to The New York Times, leaking, you know, private details about criminal investigations and so on to The New York Times while trying to maintain a moral high ground.
00:37:38.820These all these things that they that they've changed, all these norms that never should have been crossed, that have been crossed.
00:37:47.940And now this and now this. And I just think, you know, what look at what happened on the judicial filibuster.
00:37:54.040They're talking about the Senate filibuster. Now, the Democrats want to get rid of the Senate filibuster.
00:37:57.160But look what happened on the on the, you know, with respect to legislation.
00:38:01.100Well, look what happened with judges. The Democrats got rid of it under Harry Reid for for lower federal court judges.
00:38:05.840Judges. And you remember Mitch McConnell standing up there and saying, you will rue the day you did this because you will not always be in charge of this chamber.
00:38:14.100And it was exactly the right warning. That's exactly right. And sure enough, when the Republicans took control, they got rid of it for Supreme Court.
00:38:20.800And that's that's that's how Mitch McConnell got three justices under President Trump on there.
00:38:24.820Like it's the only thing the Democrats understand. Now, it hasn't led them to stand down.
00:38:30.580It's because it's gone even more escalatory to where they're not talking about getting rid of it on the Senate and legislation.
00:38:35.840But I don't see what's the answer for Mitch McConnell to have sat back and said, OK, I'll be the one.
00:38:40.680I'll be the adult in the room. You know, we're in kind of the same position right now.
00:38:45.800Well, you're speaking my language now, because as you said at the top of the segment, I am not a fan of Donald Trump's.
00:38:52.340And I've been as willing as anybody to call him out for his excesses and his breaking of norms.
00:38:57.880What drives me absolutely crazy, though, is the idea that if you do that, as I have, that you are supposed to remain blind to the many norm breaking activities in which the Democratic Party and its intellectual adherents have engaged in as well.
00:39:18.040I mean, again, I agree with Alan Dershowitz here, the willingness to violate constitutional provisions and constitutional norms that we have seen as the direct result of Donald Trump having been legitimately elected president has been absolutely astounding.
00:39:37.960The number of times I have heard people who are supposed to be liberals, who call themselves liberals, arguing that, say, to plead the fifth is a sign of guilt, which they would not have been caught dead saying in, say, 1990.
00:39:54.560The number of federal institutions that I have seen targeted over the last five or six years, the Electoral College, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the filibuster is nothing short of astonishing.
00:40:09.980And even with this president, the current president of the United States, Joe Biden, it is not an excuse.
00:40:19.040It is not exculpatory to say, but Donald Trump, if the president of the United States, as he has, repeatedly ignores Congress.
00:40:30.120Last year, the president of the United States issued an executive order to forgive student loans without Congress.
00:40:40.540This was a flagrant violation of separation of powers.
00:40:43.720And I assume and I hope it will be upheld as such at the Supreme Court.
00:40:47.300But Donald Trump does not enter into it.
00:40:50.300The year before, President Biden was told by the Supreme Court that Congress had to manage any eviction moratorium.
00:41:28.300But just you don't even have to go back that far.
00:41:30.640You know, take a look at the response to the BLM riots and the total pass that was given to those law breakers.
00:41:37.300In fact, cities like New York are now cutting those people checks to apologize for the law enforcement that did manage to take place during those riots.
00:41:47.120You know, you could go down sanctuary cities.
00:42:02.260They won't cooperate with federal law enforcement.
00:42:03.920So no one's going to look at them as this party that actually deeply cares about upholding the law.
00:42:11.220The only reason they suddenly care about upholding the law is because there's a man named Donald Trump who right now is crushing the polls on his way toward becoming the Republican nominee for the second time.
00:42:22.620And there's a faction of the Democratic Party that believes if we indict him, he won't be able to do it.
00:42:29.700And there's a faction of the Democratic Party that believes if we indict him, it'll make him more likely to be the opponent to Joe Biden and we can beat him more easily.
00:42:37.880The motivations are not entirely the same.
00:42:40.900But as Alan Dershowitz says, there is one thing they're unified on, and that is get Trump.
00:42:45.100Yeah, and I think it's important, the point you just made about lawbreaking and ignoring the law to this case.
00:42:57.000Alvin Bragg is quite famously the sort of prosecutor that lets all manner of crimes that I think most Americans would want to see harshly prosecuted go.
00:43:07.060Now, if we were talking here about someone who had come in and was an adherent of, you know, the broken windows theory and said, all of the laws on the books will be enforced.
00:43:17.620In all circumstances, I am going to go after alleged criminals.
00:43:37.060You know, I mean, I joked the other day that, ironically enough, if Donald Trump had actually shot someone on Fifth Avenue, his famous line from 2015,
00:43:47.740Alvin Bragg probably wouldn't have indicted him.
00:43:50.500Alvin Bragg does not seem particularly bothered by violent crime.
00:43:54.660He does not seem particularly bothered by serious crime.
00:43:59.540And yet he's brought this case, a case that was rejected by his predecessor, a case that is so weak that I've been reading about,
00:44:06.960about its weakness in the New York Times and listening to people talk about its weakness on NPR.
00:44:14.920And I think that does breed and should breed a certain contempt towards the law and towards the way that figures such as Alvin Bragg see it,
00:44:25.740which is as a means to single out certain people and make their lives pretty difficult.
00:44:34.820Alvin Bragg ran for his current position, promising to get Donald Trump.
00:46:25.560I mean, it's I just think that even Trump's critics are going to understand there's something really fundamentally unfair about what's being done to him.
00:46:35.940I think, Charles, it's why they now the Trump campaign is now saying they've raised eight million dollars since charges were announced on Thursday, since they said they had an indictment, eight million.
00:46:48.540And they're having people, brand new donors, huge portion, I think 25 percent of those are from brand new donors who have never donated to Trump before.
00:46:55.480He's been in politics now how many years officially since 15 when he declared that this is stirring up sentiment, even from people who aren't naturally inclined to support this guy.
00:47:08.780Yeah, and that case bothers me as well, just because it seems that the enforcement of that law is selective.
00:47:17.440And I would counsel people against saying Donald Trump has been targeted by Alvin Bragg, therefore he should be the nominee.
00:47:26.100I mean, as a human being, I do understand the screw you instinct.
00:47:30.660But what Trump did in this case, although it's not criminal, is still morally reprehensible.
00:47:39.260Well, he denies it, but he also paid her off.
00:47:42.180And if you had said to any Republican in the late 1990s, you're more or less likely to vote for the guy who slept with a porn star while his wife was at home with their child, I think they would have said less.
00:47:55.700And I think they would have been right to say yes.
00:47:59.020So I think there's a logical jump to therefore we should have Trump.
00:48:04.240But people should be outraged by this decision, certainly.
00:48:06.680I want to talk to you about the politics of it, because the shift is noticeable.
00:48:12.300The ground is shifting beneath our feet by the second.
00:48:16.160And actually, Trump is also moving by the second.
00:50:22.080Downtown at the courthouse, he'll walk into that New York State Supreme Charles.
00:50:26.100And I practiced there many times, for many years, while I was a New York lawyer.
00:50:30.280And they have chiseled in the marble above the columns the following.
00:50:37.480It's actually sort of a messed up, but it's an attempt to quote George Washington.
00:50:41.080And it reads, the true administration of justice is the firmest pillar of good government.
00:50:46.900The actual George Washington quote was the due administration of justice.
00:50:51.460So they'll walk in and we'll see whether this is the true administration of justice, whether this really is a case that Alvin Bragg would have brought against anyone.
00:51:00.160A case he previously had rejected himself, whether Trump can get a fair trial in front of a Manhattan, not just New York City.
00:51:09.560This is the borough of Manhattan, which went 87 percent for Joe Biden, whether he can get a trial in Munster in front of a jury of his peers and whether the judge and the jurors ultimately who will sit for this case if asked.
00:51:22.000Can put aside partisan politics and the enormous pressures that come when you have anything to do with Donald Trump, when you come into his orbit at all to actually do the true administration of justice or whether that firmest pillar of good government has already taken a serious ding thanks to Alvin Bragg and is headed for many more.
00:51:57.760So, you know, to some extent, I'll give him a pass.
00:51:59.940But even last week, you know, they had started it.
00:52:02.780They see an opportunity to grow their failing ratings, CNN in particular.
00:52:06.120And we've put together just a slate, just a short montage, giving you a flavor of how the coverage went yesterday as he got in his plane and traveled.
01:27:44.760But we should have a media that calls out this phoniness, that calls out these fake arguments.
01:27:52.800And the reason why the Democrats keep, you know, making things worse, the reason why they keep going for even crazier ideas is because they are not being stopped by the media.
01:28:25.400I live in Los Angeles, California, where there are a lot of soccer moms who always vote for Democrats that are my friends.
01:28:34.340And it's something has happened with them.
01:28:36.620They're seeing, you know, their 401k go to a 201k.
01:28:40.220They're watching as their kids are literally having to call people different genders in school.
01:28:47.080They're watching as some of their I have a situation where I live in Manhattan Beach, where a young girl is literally contemplating having her breasts removed.
01:28:57.640Now, I think that her parents should be arrested.
01:29:00.100I think anybody who is allowing a minor, someone who's under 18, who, by the way, has to have a card to go to an R rated movie.
01:29:09.220But we're going to give them hormone blockers and we're going to let them change their body like that when they can't even get a tattoo.
01:29:16.180But now they're going to have their breasts removed.
01:29:23.160And that is because the Democratic Party is allowed to go crazier and crazier by the media.
01:29:29.220And I think that it's a tipping point.
01:29:31.120I think a lot of independents are watching this and saying, I didn't like the mean tweets, but gosh, he had a lot of common sense and the world was better and my 401k was better and we wouldn't have had these wars.
01:29:43.720And then I want to ask you about what's happening in Trump fundraising and donors and some of the Jason Miller information he put out.
01:29:49.640There was a great piece on National Review.
01:29:52.240Dan McLaughlin authored it and it reads when a Democratic president was above the law.
01:29:57.320He goes into what happened during Bill Clinton's impeachment and points out that these same senators and lawmakers who are now saying we're a country of laws.
01:30:06.280Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer and others are all the same people who back when Bill Clinton lied under oath in connection with that whole Monica Lewinsky scandal defended him.
01:30:17.200There was no question he lied under oath and they were told these same people were saying he should not be prosecuted.
01:30:38.840By the way, I did look up some of the Stormy Daniels star of Happy Endings and Summer Hummer.
01:30:43.620That, too, has its roots in sex, but we're hearing a very different message.
01:30:50.060OK, let's talk about fundraising, because it sounds like this has been a boon to Trump 2024.
01:30:55.420Jason Miller says they've raised another one point one million just today, eight million since the indictment and counting, and then points out over 25 percent of the donations.
01:31:05.120This is an Axios over 25 percent of the donations came from first time donors, quote, this is to Jason.
01:31:13.740There's a whole new group of Trump supporters who are angered by what they see as a political persecution.
01:31:19.000The campaign tells Axios 16000 plus volunteers signed up on his Web site in just 24 hours.
01:31:25.940So talk to us about what you're seeing in Trump land in terms of new, new enthusiasm, new MAGA volunteers and so on.
01:31:33.260Look, what we're seeing is that that people are outraged at losing their country and having the ruling party do these things to the opposition leader.
01:31:44.020And so you've got a lot of first and second generation Americans who are getting off the sidelines.
01:31:48.820I think you've got a lot of just normal working people who have seen the death of common sense from the left.
01:31:55.920And they're realizing that it doesn't matter who's president from or who's the nominee from the right.
01:32:07.180They see what's happening to their kids.
01:32:08.880They see what's happening to our schools.
01:32:10.420They know that the death of common sense is real.
01:32:14.400And so they decided that that guy who is trying to change Washington and who is literally the enemy of Washington, D.C., they think he's the one to do it.
01:32:26.700They see him fighting, getting every accusation and still standing and not backing down.
01:33:10.660And I know that is a statement that he's made publicly, but he believes it and he sees that he is the guy that they're coming after, but that he represents a whole bunch of other people.
01:33:21.560I think the onus is now going to be on us here at the Trump campaign to be able to articulate what that means.
01:33:33.680And I do believe that this indictment has fundamentally shifted not only America, but even what we are going to see and say on the Trump campaign.
01:34:25.660Trump will be formally arrested and arraigned shortly.
01:34:28.900The former president of the United States, the leading candidate right now to take on the sitting president of the United States in the next presidential election.
01:34:36.740We are likely to see we will see the exact charges against him in that 34 count indictment and learn much more about where Alvin Bragg plans to go with this.
01:34:46.340And then we will learn about Trump's response expected to make some remarks after the proceeding.
01:34:50.300And then, of course, tonight, a more robust response from Mar-a-Lago, where he will return to, to which he will return after the indictment and the arraignment conclude.
01:35:00.360We will have full coverage of all of this for you tomorrow.
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