The Megyn Kelly Show - Hollywood Secrets, GOP Push to Get Crockett to Run, and Keys to Longevity, with Andrew Klavan and Gary Brecka ｜ Ep. 1210

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00:01:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:01:15.500 Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett's decision to run for Senate may have been an elaborate plan 1.00

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00:01:26.780 And some legacy media outlets are reporting that this show was snubbed by the Golden Globes.

00:01:34.780 There was no snubbing.

00:01:36.240 Well, there was a snubbing, but it may have gone the other way.

00:01:39.120 We will set the record straight today.

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00:03:18.940 Andrew, welcome back.

00:03:21.420 Great to see you.

00:03:22.740 Thanks a lot, Megan.

00:03:23.400 It's good to see you.

00:03:24.680 You as well.

00:03:25.460 Okay.

00:03:26.100 So I want to talk about Hollywood for a minute and their weird, bizarre system of values or

00:03:33.900 lack thereof.

00:03:35.040 And I'm going to kick it off, why not, on this Golden Globes thing.

00:03:38.060 Because what happened with the Golden Globes was they added a category for best audible

00:03:44.200 podcast, you know, basically best podcast.

00:03:47.760 And they automatically put in the contention for the award, the top 25 podcasts.

00:03:55.540 And we were one of them.

00:03:57.680 Ben Shapiro was one of them.

00:03:59.000 Joe Rogan was one of them.

00:04:00.100 Tucker Carlson was one of them.

00:04:01.500 Candace is one of them.

00:04:02.380 And then it was brought to my attention by someone connected with this whole system that

00:04:10.840 if you want to actually be considered, you have to go talk to the Golden Globes people,

00:04:19.320 like some voters out there who will determine whether you actually get the nomination and

00:04:25.380 then, of course, whether you win.

00:04:27.280 So like you'd have to go out there and do a little dog and pony show, like choose me,

00:04:32.360 choose me, I want world peace and I look great in an evening gown kind of thing.

00:04:37.000 And of course, the whole thing was so bizarre because number one, I had zero interest in 1.00

00:04:43.400 their stupid awards. 0.99

00:04:45.480 I've made the point repeatedly on this show that I came up under the Roger Ailes era where 1.00

00:04:50.000 we at Fox were not even allowed to submit for any kind of an award.

00:04:54.460 And I'm talking about it like a respected award, like a Pulitzer, forget Golden Globe.

00:05:00.140 And he just didn't believe in the system because he knew it was run by leftists and that it

00:05:04.200 was for leftists and that it would be leftists making the decisions.

00:05:07.780 And either they would ignore you and not give it to you, or worse yet, they would actually

00:05:12.040 give it to you, which would mean you're making inroads with the left, which is bad, which

00:05:16.860 is a bad sign.

00:05:18.200 You're probably like, I feel like Marjorie Taylor Greene is going through that right now.

00:05:21.800 Her newfound acceptance on the left is not really a great thing.

00:05:26.600 It's her career on the right seems to have ended.

00:05:29.700 So anyway, we've never, I've literally never submitted for an award in any context and have

00:05:35.180 no desire to get one.

00:05:36.180 So there was obviously zero chance I was going to be doing the dog and pony show or doing

00:05:40.600 anything to get this Golden Globe.

00:05:43.280 And instead, what we had our producers do was withdraw our name from consideration.

00:05:49.240 So we, in order to like stay one of the ones who was considered, you had to just fill out

00:05:54.280 like your name and your show, your show name.

00:05:56.460 And I don't know, one other very basic identifying piece of information.

00:06:00.140 And we refused.

00:06:01.160 Uh, so it was no mystery to us that we would be not actually nominated because we told them

00:06:08.240 thanks, but no thanks.

00:06:09.760 Now all the headlines because they hate conservative media is snubbed, snubbed.

00:06:13.580 No, no.

00:06:14.840 We're literally one of the top podcasts in the country, but we're not interested in awards.

00:06:20.660 Um, now others on the list did it differently.

00:06:23.020 Our mutual friend, Ben was very open about the fact that he campaigned for it.

00:06:26.900 He wanted it.

00:06:27.520 He took out a billboard in Times Square.

00:06:28.960 He did the dog and pony show.

00:06:31.700 He wanted the Golden Globe.

00:06:33.180 He didn't get nominated.

00:06:34.880 He didn't even get the nomination.

00:06:36.880 Instead, they nominated.

00:06:38.140 And by the way, Joe Rogan, who blows all of us out of the water when it comes to ratings,

00:06:44.860 did not get the nomination.

00:06:46.800 Like, it's ridiculous that you would do this award and include Mel Robbins, who spends her 0.99

00:06:54.320 day spewing a bunch of bullshit you'd read in your fortune cookie. 0.98

00:06:58.960 And not Joe Rogan, who is the undisputed king of this medium. 0.98

00:07:05.920 On the first year, you're offering the Golden Globe for it.

00:07:09.040 So to me, all of this just speaks to the overall false god that Hollywood is for some people,

00:07:18.600 provides for some people, and how the whole thing is rigged.

00:07:23.540 It's not an honest system.

00:07:25.080 When you see somebody win an award at the Golden Globes now, this isn't just the best actor or the best picture.

00:07:33.300 This is someone who's prostrated themselves in front of these Hollywood weirdos whose opinion, I guess,

00:07:44.500 means something to someone, but not anyone I know.

00:07:48.120 And they try to parlay that into you believing this is quality.

00:07:52.540 And it explains some of the disconnect between what we see as movies and books and other things that we like,

00:07:59.040 and what the left, which controls those industries, the arts, tells us is good and valid and worth having

00:08:05.200 as a part of your media diet.

00:08:08.840 Now, you are as immersed in all of these worlds as anybody I know.

00:08:14.480 You've literally written some of the screenplays for the biggest movies we've had in America.

00:08:19.260 You're a very successful, prolific author.

00:08:22.960 So you write books.

00:08:23.980 You're also in the podcasting world.

00:08:25.980 Well, and there's probably other accomplishments beyond that, Andrew.

00:08:29.680 So you're the perfect person to ask about all of this.

00:08:33.120 Your thoughts.

00:08:34.300 Well, I totally agree with you in terms of values, but not necessarily in terms of effect.

00:08:40.860 When you say you weren't snubbed, you only had to leave your name in the running, and you would have been snubbed.

00:08:46.540 Certainly, there is no way that you were ever going to be nominated for a Golden Globe Award or any other award that I can think of offhand.

00:08:52.840 And back in the 2000s, I wrote a book called Empire of Lies, which took a very honest look at the clash between Islam and the West. 0.94

00:09:02.760 And when I put the last period on the manuscript, I walked – this is absolutely true – I walked into the bathroom, looked in the mirror, and I said,

00:09:11.180 can you live with the fact that you're never going to win another award?

00:09:14.480 Because I'm the recipient of multiple literary awards, the highest awards in my particular field.

00:09:19.880 I've won the Mystery Writers of America Award twice.

00:09:23.280 I've been nominated five times, I think, maybe six.

00:09:26.400 And I knew when I wrote this book that I was never, ever going to win an award again.

00:09:31.940 And I also knew that my reviews would turn.

00:09:35.560 I was a recipient of glowing reviews in hundreds of venues.

00:09:39.740 And after Empire of Lies came out, I got one review in a major venue, and it called me a right-wing lunatic. 0.86

00:09:45.440 I can't remember the exact words, but it was something like a right-wing lunatic.

00:09:48.300 So you're absolutely right.

00:09:50.260 Anybody who's looking at these things and thinking that they're fair or that they're going to maybe come around and like us,

00:09:56.420 you know, I don't know what Ben was thinking.

00:09:59.300 Maybe he just wanted the publicity of going after it.

00:10:02.400 But, you know, this is a problem on the right is that we talk about the New York Times and how dishonest it is,

00:10:08.940 but the New York Times comes along and offers to do an article about us.

00:10:11.780 Instead of telling them to pound sand, we agree to it, and then we get, you know, absolutely ripped to pieces by their passive-aggressive hostility.

00:10:19.780 Although I did an interview with the New York Times, and I did not get ripped to pieces, and it was very fruitful.

00:10:24.720 You know, she and I had some very challenging back and forths that I think exposed the times.

00:10:30.040 Not me, but the times.

00:10:32.140 Yeah, well, you're lucky if they quote you, and that does happen, too.

00:10:34.800 I agree with you.

00:10:36.160 However, the thing about awards, and the thing about the arts in general, and entertainment in general, is it's kind of like sex.

00:10:43.060 You know, you experience sex in the moment as fun, but over the long term, it's a very deep spiritual experience that's going to have an effect on your life

00:10:50.860 in a very rich in multiple ways according to how you do it.

00:10:54.800 So if you treat sex lightly your whole life, you're going to end up in a bad place, whereas if you treat it as part of commitment and love,

00:11:00.180 you're going to end up in a much better place.

00:11:01.560 And the same thing is true with the arts.

00:11:02.580 We experience the arts as fun, entertainment, but the way the arts affect us over time is going to have an effect on our society as a whole

00:11:10.860 and on some people's, especially young people's, souls, you know, as a whole.

00:11:16.500 And I think the problem with the right is we just haven't paid enough attention to this.

00:11:21.420 But we have no awards that we run until Trump took over the Kennedy Center and started to give Kennedy Center awards from the right.

00:11:28.280 We have none.

00:11:29.400 An author starting out is never going, if he's a conservative, is never going to get the kind of recognition that a left-wing artist is going to get.

00:11:40.180 Artists like Tom Stoppard, one of the greatest writers of my lifetime, just maybe the greatest writer of my lifetime,

00:11:46.460 was virtually canceled because of his non-attacks on Margaret Thatcher and ultimately gave an interview saying that he was kind of a socialist, really,

00:11:55.380 which I don't believe at all.

00:11:56.380 I think he was a Tory to the day he died.

00:11:58.520 And I think the same thing is true of Cormac McCarthy, who I know was a conservative but never said so because he was a guy who could easily have won a Nobel Prize for literature,

00:12:09.240 but never would have had he come out.

00:12:11.260 We have not built the parallel infrastructure to celebrate, appreciate, and study the arts that the left now dominate almost completely.

00:12:20.680 And the result, in the immediate sense, is not that big.

00:12:25.940 It's just like the effect of a one-night stand might not be that big in your life.

00:12:30.880 It's the long-term effect of having this incredibly powerful spiritual instrument, which is entertainment and the arts,

00:12:38.500 washing over us with left-wing garbage day after day after day.

00:12:42.780 The Golden Globe Award nominated that Leonardo DiCaprio movie, which basically, what was it called? 0.97

00:12:50.900 One thing after another, one battle after another, which is basically a celebration and romanticization of left-wing violence.

00:12:57.160 True, left-wing murderous violence.

00:13:00.760 And that got multiple awards.

00:13:03.440 We have nothing to compare or compete with that.

00:13:07.260 And the billionaires among us, who are not that many, but there are some, you know, don't do anything to fix that.

00:13:14.620 And it needs to be fixed.

00:13:16.760 I understand and admire you, Megan, for blowing awards off and saying these awards are worthless because they are worthless.

00:13:24.280 But they wouldn't be worthless if they actually judged people on their quality.

00:13:29.460 I mean, you do one of the best podcasts out there.

00:13:31.780 You know I'm not flattering you.

00:13:33.040 You know I think this.

00:13:35.160 And yet, you will never win an award.

00:13:37.840 And that's wrong.

00:13:38.860 And it ultimately takes from you something that is of value, which is the prestige of your peers and your colleagues.

00:13:46.200 And you are a tough person, so you understand that, just like I'm a tough person and I understood it when I gave it up.

00:13:52.700 But I realized that I was giving up something of value.

00:13:55.480 And I think that knowing that I will never win those prizes, that it's very difficult even for me to get on the lists that the New York Times sends around for its bestseller list, because that's a very rigged bestseller list.

00:14:08.060 It's very hard for me to get on those.

00:14:10.060 You know, those are things that do affect your career and do affect your prestige and do affect your pleasure at what you do and affect the audiences.

00:14:17.040 Because I'm somebody, I am a very good novelist, and my novels are very much appreciated by the people who read them.

00:14:27.880 But breaking out of that right-wing audience to spread these novels, which I think would be appreciated by a lot of people of good values, is very difficult.

00:14:38.780 It's very difficult to do.

00:14:39.840 So I've been really fortunate, you know, I'm one of these guys who has had this wonderful career in spite of my having a big mouth and saying what I have to say.

00:14:48.480 But it shouldn't be this way.

00:14:49.700 I guess that's what it comes down to.

00:14:51.600 It should be better than this.

00:14:52.880 And it would be better if we would participate more and fight back more.

00:14:57.040 Like, all I could think when they were talking about, you know, how I needed to go out there and sit with these people and try to razzle-dazzle them was, I would rather blow my brains out.

00:15:08.900 I don't have that in me.

00:15:13.060 I literally don't have that in me.

00:15:14.540 Nor do I have it in me to sit at one of their little tables around their movie stars on the big night and act like I care, like I wish for their good approval.

00:15:27.020 I don't.

00:15:28.360 It's too important to me to excoriate and mock them endlessly and ruthlessly, which they give me fodder to do every day. 0.97

00:15:36.080 Once you start getting sucked in by these losers, you lose your own ability to stay empowered and speak honestly about what they do, right? 0.97

00:15:47.980 Like, I cannot be—I can't be corrupted by them. 0.99

00:15:52.500 I won't be corrupted by them.

00:15:54.380 No two pieces of silver in the form of a golden globe is going to do it, make me compromise, like, my ideals.

00:16:03.480 And you see this all the time.

00:16:05.000 You know, you see—I don't mean to pick on Jake Tapper, but, like, that picture of him at one of those Hollywood lunches.

00:16:12.860 It was Jennifer Aniston and Jimmy Kimmel and I think—what's his name?

00:16:19.340 Bateman was there, Justin Bateman.

00:16:22.160 This is like—it's not a great idea.

00:16:24.680 It's really not.

00:16:25.660 We're supposed to keep an arm's length from them, from politicians.

00:16:29.980 I mean, think about, like, you know, Trump.

00:16:31.680 Yes, I endorse Trump.

00:16:33.460 And I—so I've seen Trump at a couple of events, and we're always very friendly.

00:16:36.480 But he is also at arm's length.

00:16:38.020 I don't go hang out with Trump.

00:16:39.300 I am not going to the White House.

00:16:41.600 And we're not chums.

00:16:43.340 And he knows that, too.

00:16:44.620 Like, there's a little friction between us, as it should be.

00:16:48.880 You know, like, it's fine to do, like, the occasional party, this, that, the—I'm not saying that there's anything inappropriate with that.

00:16:55.760 We do that no matter what president is in office.

00:16:58.000 But, like, making a politician or making Hollywood or people who are that out of touch your BFFs as a journalist is corrupting.

00:17:06.220 It is—it's corrosive.

00:17:08.180 And it really is undermining to the very job that you mean to do.

00:17:11.300 On the same front, it was just announced today that, I guess, Lauren Sanchez has bought the Met Gala.

00:17:20.600 More accurately, Lauren Sanchez Bezos has bought the Met Gala.

00:17:26.580 And they're putting on this thing—

00:17:28.440 See, I was going to do that.

00:17:29.380 I'm sorry.

00:17:29.780 She got there before me. 0.66

00:17:31.040 Yeah.

00:17:31.180 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:32.080 It's amazing what you do when you marry one of the richest men in the world.

00:17:35.160 And it was just announced today that Beyonce, Nicole Kidman, and I think Venus Williams are going to be the three co-chairs of the Met Gala this year.

00:17:47.980 Because they're all super relevant in our culture.

00:17:53.200 They're all super high fashion.

00:17:56.500 No, none of those things.

00:17:58.440 Beyonce's passed her prime.

00:18:00.400 Nicole Kidman, she's a great actress.

00:18:02.120 But what's she doing there?

00:18:02.940 She's not known for her style.

00:18:04.620 She's, like, known for her acting and her weird marriage to Tom Cruise. 0.99

00:18:07.880 She just got in a divorce from the second husband after him. 0.85

00:18:10.760 And Venus Williams. 0.89

00:18:12.400 Like, okay, she was a great tennis player back in the day.

00:18:15.280 But, like, Coco Gauff would be a lot more relevant today.

00:18:18.480 Or Sabalenka.

00:18:19.240 Or somebody who's, like, been playing over the past 10 years.

00:18:22.360 I realize that Venus and Serena tried to do a doubles thing. 0.99

00:18:25.100 But I'm just saying, this is not the height of cultural relevance anymore.

00:18:29.320 And what are they chairing?

00:18:32.020 They're chairing an event at which all those people who will be sitting in those Golden Globe chairs will parade themselves in $100,000 gowns to a dinner where the, you know, the plebs have to pay $40,000 a table to show up. 1.00

00:18:51.020 Or maybe it's $40,000 a seat.

00:18:52.820 It might be a ticket.

00:18:53.720 More than that for a full table.

00:18:55.560 Just so that they can rub elbows with this so-called elite.

00:18:59.140 I'm going somewhere with this.

00:19:01.520 This so-called elite.

00:19:03.300 And who are the elite?

00:19:05.320 Like, right, as I say, people who are largely irrelevant or past their prime who are hosting it.

00:19:10.420 And also on the guest list now.

00:19:12.200 Used to be different 10 years ago.

00:19:13.560 But also, I'm just going to give you an example of what that town looks like one day in the news.

00:19:22.040 All right?

00:19:22.560 Take a look at Ariana Grande right now of the music industry and now also an actress starring in Wicked.

00:19:30.760 Let's check in on how Ariana, who was raised on television on Nickelodeon, then parlayed that into singing, now is a Hollywood actress, is doing.

00:19:39.660 She is very clearly anorexic.

00:19:41.960 She, if she's 90 pounds, it's a lot. 1.00

00:19:46.520 She looks like you could snap her in two with, like, your fingers. 0.94

00:19:52.560 And she's having some sort of weird, I don't know what it is.

00:19:56.860 It, sexual, I don't know, relationship with a they-them, her co-star, Cynthia Erivo, who also looks dangerously thin. 0.99

00:20:04.440 Then we take a walk down the street, and there's Andy Dick, comedian, actor, this is sad, but it's in the news today, literally on the street, reportedly having OD'd.

00:20:17.400 Like, this is him, just this week in the news, I think it was yesterday, spotted after having overdosed like a homeless person on the streets.

00:20:27.820 Take a look at Kelly Osbourne, also reality TV star, daughter of Ozzy and Sharon.

00:20:36.760 I love Sharon.

00:20:37.600 But she is, to say waif thin would be, to grossly understate the matter, she is unrecognizable. 1.00

00:20:47.300 Obviously, she's on the shot or something, but you can't even recognize that it is Kelly Osbourne. 0.82

00:20:53.240 My whole point in saying all this, Andrew, is this industry is not to be admired.

00:20:58.620 It's certainly not to be emulated.

00:21:01.040 You shouldn't be spending your money to get a table with these people.

00:21:05.120 You should not aspire to have a child go into this industry, and you should never feel bad that this industry doesn't recognize you for your life accomplishments.

00:21:15.960 And I say that to you as Andrew Klavan and to the audience writ large.

00:21:19.700 Well, yeah, you know, of course this is true.

00:21:22.360 This has to do with a mistake about the arts that came about during the Romantic era.

00:21:27.680 I mean, it's quite a long time ago where the arts went from being a piece of work that was either good or bad on its own to being the production of this artist.

00:21:36.780 You know, I don't look at myself as the creator of things.

00:21:39.760 I look at myself as a guy who receives information and puts it out on the page.

00:21:45.360 I think most really good artists think of themselves as a conduit to their art, not as the creator of their art.

00:21:50.720 But at some point, we began to think that the artist himself was important and that he was the guy to be elevated.

00:21:57.560 I mean, I think all the time about people like Whitney Houston, one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen, with one of the most incredible voices I've ever heard, dead in a bathtub after being abused by her partner.

00:22:09.760 And then, you know, on drugs and all this, Philip Seymour Hoffman, probably the best actor of his generation, dying after injecting heroin to himself.

00:22:19.320 You know, so these are these are obviously broken people who have been given a great gift.

00:22:24.540 And that gift is that something comes through them that we all benefit from and admire.

00:22:28.940 And yet when you put that on them and you admire them, you're just making a fundamental category error.

00:22:35.060 You're just basically saying you're looking at the wrong thing.

00:22:37.420 You're admiring the wrong thing.

00:22:39.200 And and I never asked anybody to admire me.

00:22:43.220 I mean, that would be that would be a big mistake.

00:22:45.460 But I but yeah, you know, I think that the work I do is good.

00:22:50.000 You know, it's really good.

00:22:51.160 And I think that sometimes it would be nice to have the recognition that I think all artists want at some level.

00:22:58.020 You know, we I always I always used to explain to conservatives, artists really don't work for money.

00:23:02.360 They work for love.

00:23:03.300 And if they don't get that love, they basically just walk away a lot of times.

00:23:07.700 And that is a problem we have with conservatives and traditionalist artists.

00:23:12.140 So, look, you're 100 percent right.

00:23:14.340 There's an old George Cohen musical called I'd Rather Be Right Than Be President.

00:23:18.280 And I, too, like you, would rather say what I have to say and speak the words I I would say what I had to say if I sold one book.

00:23:26.360 You know, I mean, I would not I would never, ever change the things that I want to put down on paper.

00:23:30.400 And you can talk to the people who work with me.

00:23:32.400 I hope I'm a pleasant enough person in general life.

00:23:36.520 But when you try to make me say something that I don't agree with, I become incredibly prickly and unmovable.

00:23:42.240 And I, you know, I've gone through multiple editors and agents just making sure that I got to have the career that I wanted to have.

00:23:50.180 But again, I've been incredibly fortunate and durable.

00:23:53.900 And I just think about a lot of people, a lot of actors who have all the talent in the world or writers who have all the talent in the world, singers who have who have no chance because they they support Trump or because they believe in the Constitution or they believe that, you know, being white isn't a crime or whatever it is we're not supposed to believe in these days.

00:24:13.580 I was watching Sidney Sweeney, who had made the beautiful move of basically showing herself to be at least her family to be Republican and refusing to turn away from a jeans ad that she did, which was absurdly attacked as white supremacist. 0.98

00:24:32.040 That was nonsense.

00:24:32.820 It was blue jean supremacist.

00:24:35.180 And and recently she sort of backtracked.

00:24:37.140 Well, that why did that happen?

00:24:38.220 Because because her movie, we just had a debate on the show privately about whether that was her backtracking or bending the knee, which I maintained it was.

00:24:46.560 And my executive producer didn't feel as harshly about it.

00:24:50.000 But I was like, no, this is what she's changed the messaging.

00:24:53.120 They got to her Hollywood, her agents, her PR people, the casting directors, the money men, you know, like producers who actually could like control her presence in a film.

00:25:04.860 They got to her because her messaging sounds very different from, I think, when I have something to say about that, people will hear.

00:25:14.500 Now, I'll just play it, Andrew, and I'll let you take it.

00:25:16.400 But she she sounds different.

00:25:18.980 And do we have it, you guys, or is it just on it's written? 0.99

00:25:22.020 Oh, crap.

00:25:22.640 It's going to take me a while to find my team will send it to me because it is. 0.99

00:25:26.940 I agree with you.

00:25:27.600 It's alarmingly close to a genuflection to the left.

00:25:31.360 Keep going.

00:25:31.760 Well, well, look, she just was in two movies that tanked enormously and they got terrible reviews.

00:25:37.980 One of them, she played a sort of overweight boxer. 1.00

00:25:40.840 And I thought, look, nobody's going to the movies to see Sidney Sweeney be overweight.

00:25:44.640 We're going to see her be beautiful.

00:25:46.060 And, you know, that's just one of those things that actors have to live with.

00:25:48.940 You know, their body is their instrument.

00:25:51.460 Unlike unlike a writer who can write about anything he wants, you know, an actor has to be who he or she is.

00:25:58.020 And she's a beautiful woman.

00:25:59.060 And we want to see her be beautiful.

00:26:00.420 She's also an enormously talented actress.

00:26:03.000 She's a really talented actress.

00:26:04.700 And so her movies bomb. 0.50

00:26:06.320 And now she hasn't got the power that she had before.

00:26:08.500 She's not riding on top of the world as she was before.

00:26:10.980 And yes, you're absolutely I'm sure you're absolutely right.

00:26:14.260 She's got managers and agents and friends and family and, you know, colleagues saying, you know, just you don't have to say anything you don't want to say.

00:26:22.140 But just go out and say you're against hate. 1.00

00:26:23.760 And, you know, what a stupid thing. 1.00

00:26:25.520 You know, who's in favor of hate? 1.00

00:26:27.340 OK, but here it is. 0.98

00:26:28.420 Yeah, she said this is to People magazine, which, by the way, I don't know if people know this, but People magazine is woke and fucking annoying. 0.98

00:26:37.560 Do not deal with People magazine. 0.97

00:26:39.080 Do not buy People magazine.

00:26:41.100 Truly, they they hate conservatives.

00:26:42.920 And I know people who are over there.

00:26:44.580 They hate conservatives.

00:26:45.860 OK, she says this to People magazine.

00:26:49.600 Anyone who knows me knows that I'm always trying to bring people together.

00:26:53.460 I'm against hate and divisiveness.

00:26:56.860 In the past, my stance has been to never respond to negative or positive press.

00:27:01.600 But recently I have come to realize that my silence regarding this issue has only widened the divide, not closed it.

00:27:12.980 So I hope this new year brings more focus on what connects us instead of what divides us.

00:27:17.160 It's that part of but recently I have come to realize that my silence regarding this issue has only widened the divide, not closed it.

00:27:25.880 So to be clear, I'm against hate and divisiveness.

00:27:29.820 And I really think that's what she that's as close as she will get, I guess, to telegraphing.

00:27:35.520 I don't agree with the Republican crazies who backed me and I'm not a white supremacist.

00:27:41.780 And I don't like the the people taking my jeans ad as a comment on G-E-N-E-S any more so than I explicitly wanted them to in that ad. 0.99

00:27:52.800 She was better off with the first answer.

00:27:56.560 Yeah. But, you know, think about this, Megan.

00:27:58.060 I just I just want to put it in human perspective.

00:28:00.000 I mean, think about Chick-fil-A who came out against gay marriage and not in a vicious way.

00:28:05.280 Not I hate gay people, but I think marriage is between a man and a woman and stood and held to their guns and became because of that one of the biggest franchises, fast food franchises in the country, much bigger than they were before, despite the consistent attacks of the left.

00:28:21.460 But every time they went to open a restaurant, no matter where it was, when they went to open a branch of their franchise, no matter where it was, the left showed up and frequently caused enough trouble to have the municipality refuse them the space that they needed to open a restaurant.

00:28:36.980 And ultimately, they started to change their mind.

00:28:39.540 Ultimately, Sidney Sweeney lives off the love of the people.

00:28:43.380 The people learn about her movies through the reviews and through word of mouth.

00:28:47.680 The left has incredible energy and incredible dedication to making sure that word of mouth does not spread in her favor.

00:28:56.500 And she cracked, you know, let's guess. 0.97

00:28:58.940 So I'm guessing she cracked.

00:29:00.580 But, you know, but but look, I mean, I'm sorry.

00:29:03.940 Part of what she does depends on people wanting to see her in pretty dresses, wanting to see her show up. 1.00

00:29:09.480 I mean, the last time I talked to you, she had just shown up in a vaporous dress that you could see right through. 1.00

00:29:14.700 And you hated it.

00:29:15.440 Yeah, I did, but I like ladies. 1.00

00:29:18.440 I prefer ladies who are genteel. 1.00

00:29:20.640 But like, but still, you know, the thing is, the thing is, this is part of the profession that she's in, just like part of my profession is signing books or going out and chatting with people about my books.

00:29:31.020 You know, these are parts of the things that you do.

00:29:33.460 And the left is dedicated to destroying you.

00:29:36.980 I have a friend, wonderful guy, if you haven't had him on the show, you had, you should, Cyrus Nawassa, who is a rebel director who made a film called The Road to 9-11 that has never been released on DVD, despite the fact it was one of the most popular TV movies ever put out.

00:29:53.400 But it's never been released because it showed that Bill Clinton was partly responsible for not killing Osama bin Laden and therefore opened the path to 9-11.

00:30:02.220 And he didn't do it because he didn't have any political capital because he'd been banging.

00:30:06.280 Yes, so because it was put out by Disney, by ABC, they've basically banned it.

00:30:13.860 They've taken it off the air.

00:30:15.560 Recently, Cyrus made a hit movie called Sarah's Oil.

00:30:20.160 It's a lovely little film.

00:30:21.700 And the New York Times attacked it because it's about a little girl who inherits, a little black girl who inherits some land on which there's oil and her struggles to get the oils based on a true story.

00:30:31.200 Yeah, so and it's a lovely film and the New York Times attacked it because it glamorized fossil fuels and because the little girl had a white friend who was protecting her and that was their attack on it.

00:30:43.620 So, in other words, they can't stand the white savior. 0.86

00:30:46.260 The white savior is a trope that must be avoided at all terms.

00:30:49.840 But think of the small soul, small minded approach that says no work of art can have ideas in it that offend me.

00:30:57.960 That's essentially what they're saying.

00:30:59.020 I watch works of art that I think are quite good that actually have a left wing point of view, even though I disagree with their point of view.

00:31:04.420 I admire the artistry that's involved.

00:31:06.320 Sometimes I'll, you know, Sean Penn, the great actor.

00:31:09.280 I've never stopped saying what a great actor he is. 0.99

00:31:11.980 He's a lunatic. 1.00

00:31:12.660 He's a left wing lunatic. 1.00

00:31:14.060 But they're not going to do that. 0.98

00:31:15.420 We're going to do that, but they're not going to do it.

00:31:17.320 And all I'm saying to you is that, of course, you're right.

00:31:20.240 You're right morally.

00:31:21.160 Your values are right.

00:31:22.400 You have proven yourself willing to stand up to them.

00:31:25.260 I feel I have proven myself, look, my Hollywood career vanished because of my opinions.

00:31:30.480 And it was a seven-figure career some years.

00:31:33.480 And it just disappeared.

00:31:34.880 I thought my electricity had gone off.

00:31:37.140 My phone stopped ringing so fast.

00:31:39.540 So I have proved myself willing to stand up to them.

00:31:42.820 I'm just saying it should not be this way.

00:31:44.720 And it is this way because the right doesn't respond to their intensity because they understand

00:31:49.980 the long-term deep importance of the spiritual business of the arts and entertainment.

00:31:54.260 And we don't.

00:31:55.280 We think it's just a, you know, just a little thing that comes and goes, a bagatelle that

00:32:00.600 comes and goes.

00:32:01.540 And we don't really put the money, the effort, or the intensity into it that they do.

00:32:05.920 And because of that, there are a lot of right-wing artists who never make it because

00:32:10.260 they never get a chance.

00:32:11.160 Am I wrong?

00:32:11.180 But I think that Zachary Levi is in Sarah's Oil.

00:32:14.460 And he's great in it.

00:32:15.580 It's the best performance he's ever given.

00:32:17.060 He's terrific.

00:32:17.780 He's amazing.

00:32:18.340 But he was on the show just yesterday, literally 24 hours ago, saying he does feel that he has

00:32:23.880 been, quote, gray-listed.

00:32:25.560 I'm sure he has.

00:32:26.520 You can say full blacklisted, but gray-listed in Hollywood.

00:32:29.700 I mean, the guy was Shazam.

00:32:31.300 That's like a huge, huge role.

00:32:33.500 My kids are like, you had Zach Levi?

00:32:35.340 They're so excited about this.

00:32:37.440 But he's also a very serious, dramatic actor.

00:32:39.660 And he's such a nice guy, too.

00:32:43.140 He's such a sweetheart.

00:32:44.520 And he hasn't even—he's not even a conservative, Andrew.

00:32:47.600 Like, he probably have a lot of disagreements with you and me on the issues that we talk

00:32:51.660 about.

00:32:52.160 I'm sure.

00:32:52.220 Yeah.

00:32:52.660 He's genuinely a libertarian on, like, politics and government role.

00:32:58.200 And he's left and right on various issues.

00:33:01.820 Depends on the issue that you run by him.

00:33:03.620 He's Christian.

00:33:05.260 He is Maha, which, by the way, is in some ways more controversial than Maga, right?

00:33:11.820 Like, if you talk about vaccines with that, you know, certain group of the left, you will

00:33:18.020 be excommunicated, which is also ironic because Hollywood is land of the granola crunchy weirdos

00:33:23.660 who should be—at least some portion of which should be in Hollywood just by default, just

00:33:27.840 by the sheer numbers game.

00:33:29.540 And they should be open-minded to this, but they're not.

00:33:32.660 So he's—but to your point, he didn't come out, if you will, as any of those things until

00:33:38.080 after Shazam and he was famous.

00:33:41.360 So it can still be done to him and is being done to him.

00:33:44.700 But to your point, like, a young person who's got their Christianity, their conservatism,

00:33:51.000 their Maha affiliation on their sleeve early on, forget it.

00:33:56.380 It's not going to happen.

00:33:57.560 You say you like RFK Jr. and what he's doing with vaccines, right?

00:34:03.200 You're done.

00:34:04.920 Not only will there not be any awards, there will be no roles unless you get cast in something

00:34:09.940 being produced by the Daily Wire.

00:34:11.360 Like, literally.

00:34:12.740 Yep, yep.

00:34:13.380 And the whole system in L.A.

00:34:15.880 I know people who have said to a famous producer, you know, I want to pitch you an idea.

00:34:21.140 And the producer has said, well, I'm driving over to the Hillary Clinton fundraiser.

00:34:26.120 Why don't you come with me and you can pitch the idea?

00:34:28.820 You know, that—I'm never going to get that offer.

00:34:31.300 It's never going to happen to me.

00:34:32.820 No one's ever going to say that to me.

00:34:33.620 That could be so fun for you.

00:34:34.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:35.600 And I think the thing is, you know, people don't understand, you know,

00:34:39.320 you know, Ted Cruz once asked me, what's something you know that nobody else knows?

00:34:43.640 And I said, what I know is they don't care about money.

00:34:45.540 And this is the thing.

00:34:46.740 Everybody's always saying Hollywood is all about money.

00:34:48.740 They do not care about money.

00:34:50.180 They care about prestige.

00:34:51.100 They care about awards.

00:34:51.980 They care about getting the girl.

00:34:53.220 They care about all the things that artists go into their profession for.

00:34:56.840 And the studios care about money, but they'll always find the money.

00:35:00.480 They'll always find ways to make money.

00:35:02.200 So, you know, you go into a meeting in Hollywood, and the first 10 minutes are very likely to be, 1.00

00:35:08.400 you know, isn't Trump an idiot? 1.00

00:35:09.600 Isn't Trump a bad guy? 1.00

00:35:10.960 I hate this Trump. 0.75

00:35:11.900 And you are sitting there trying to get a job or trying to sell a piece of material,

00:35:15.620 and you have a choice whether you're going to say, well, yeah, or nod, or go blank-eyed,

00:35:21.540 or whatever you want to do, or whether you're going to say, you know,

00:35:23.300 actually, I'm on the other side, which is always what I said, which explains to you

00:35:27.380 where my Hollywood career went.

00:35:29.840 And yet, you know, to me, look, my whole business is words.

00:35:34.620 If my words don't mean exactly what I want them to mean, I'm nothing.

00:35:37.800 You know, that's the way I look at it.

00:35:39.180 I agree with you.

00:35:39.980 I totally agree with this, Andrew.

00:35:41.820 It's like, it's one thing, I've changed my position on many, many issues over time,

00:35:46.440 but I've never been insincere about how I feel, right?

00:35:52.620 I've never said I feel one way when I secretly feel the other, ever.

00:35:57.120 I really don't think I'm capable of it.

00:35:59.820 And I do feel like when you do that, that's selling your soul to the devil. 1.00

00:36:04.580 That's the type of shit that's with you on the deathbed if you do it. 0.99

00:36:08.280 Like, you really have to stay away from that. 1.00

00:36:11.140 Listen, I know a lot of guys who did this.

00:36:13.300 And, you know, my wife wishes, and my beloved wife wishes I would learn to keep my opinions to myself,

00:36:19.360 but I never have.

00:36:20.280 But I know a lot of guys, yeah, I know a lot of guys in Hollywood who made the opposite decision,

00:36:26.360 and you only had to look in their eyes, never mind their deathbed.

00:36:29.900 You only had to look in their eyes to know that you never wanted to be that guy.

00:36:34.240 You never wanted to live that way because the hollowness and the fear and the sense of lost

00:36:39.060 identity are as visible as anything, as visible as the computer in front of me.

00:36:44.360 You know, like, the thing is, that is your soul, you know, and that is your soul.

00:36:48.940 And again, with your soul, a lot of times, things that seem meaningless in the moment,

00:36:53.600 like a lie, pile up and ultimately rob you of who you are.

00:36:58.940 It's a lack of courage.

00:37:00.320 It's like the lie, it's not great to lie, but everybody does it.

00:37:05.220 The lie is told because of your cowardice.

00:37:08.080 Because of what you're afraid of.

00:37:09.040 The worst, like a white lie is something we call because you're doing it to spare somebody's feelings.

00:37:13.920 You know, you don't feel the need to hurt them unnecessarily by being totally honest about how you feel

00:37:17.500 about whether their butt looks big or they look good in that dress that they already have on

00:37:21.060 and don't have the ability to change. 0.99

00:37:23.500 But a cowardly lie, I mean, that really is something that will haunt you.

00:37:28.900 It reminds me of the movie Defending Your Life, right?

00:37:31.060 Where Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep wind up in purgatory.

00:37:33.780 And what determines whether you move on or not is like how many days of cowardice you had.

00:37:40.640 That's what they're looking back at.

00:37:41.660 Not really even being a bad person, but cowardice.

00:37:44.600 And he's got tons and she has like none.

00:37:47.500 She's literally rescuing people out of burning buildings as they look back at her days.

00:37:51.620 So she's clearly going to move on.

00:37:53.040 And Albert Brooks in typical fashion has, you know, 12, I think.

00:37:57.760 And it doesn't go well.

00:37:59.060 It's such a funny, clever movie.

00:38:00.740 But yeah, that would be the worst.

00:38:02.260 But wait, I do want to say something positive.

00:38:04.960 We saw another clip this week.

00:38:08.160 And listen, he's established and maybe not seeking a bunch of these big movie roles anymore.

00:38:13.960 But Kelsey Grammer has gotten, I think, bolder with his politics as he's gotten older.

00:38:20.340 And so has Mel Gibson.

00:38:21.800 But Mel Gibson's been canceled and has the freedom that comes from being canceled.

00:38:26.680 You know, I mean, it's great to see him ripping all of his thoughts politically.

00:38:29.840 But he had something traumatic happen to him.

00:38:33.100 He was very, very canceled.

00:38:35.560 Kelsey never was.

00:38:37.180 And he's just sort of grown into it, I think, with age.

00:38:39.820 He was caught on camera.

00:38:41.680 Was it this is credit to Nick Belasi?

00:38:45.920 And here's the exchange.

00:38:47.300 Watch here.

00:38:47.800 Sot 20.

00:38:48.260 Hey, Kelsey, can you tell us what you think about Trump's job performance so far in his first term or second term?

00:38:56.240 I think he's great.

00:38:59.600 What issues are you most concerned about that he's doing well on?

00:39:03.640 I think so.

00:39:04.160 Well, I think the economy is actually going really well.

00:39:08.540 I think so, too.

00:39:09.400 And we'll see what happens in the next year or so.

00:39:13.280 I mean, what I always love is when the Democrats start talking about affordability, you always know they're going to charge you twice as much.

00:39:20.120 And spend three times as much. 0.99

00:39:23.320 By the way, his first answer was, I think he's kicking ass. 0.98

00:39:26.320 The reporter stepped on him a bit, but that's what he said. 0.98

00:39:28.660 That's courageous, Andrew.

00:39:30.240 Yeah, John Voight, too.

00:39:32.300 I mean, you know, you can't stop these guys.

00:39:34.280 But again, yeah.

00:39:35.820 And the thing is, you know, these guys are older and I'm not knocking their courage.

00:39:41.760 You know, they've been pretty open about who they are for a long time.

00:39:45.420 But it's the young guys I worry about because I've seen some of the actors we're talking about right now.

00:39:52.020 I've seen them take young actors aside and say, keep it down if you want to keep your careers.

00:39:56.260 They know that when you're young.

00:39:57.600 Let me ask you a quick question about that.

00:39:58.900 Forgive me the interruption.

00:39:59.520 Why can't Schwarzenegger is obviously also a Republican.

00:40:02.940 He's not a Trump publican, but he's a Republican.

00:40:05.440 Why can't Sly Stallone and Schwarzenegger and Mel Gibson and some of these other guys get together and form their own production company?

00:40:15.580 Like, I know The Daily Wire makes some films that are more conservative, but I'm talking about like mega Hollywood connection people who have the juice, the connections and the dough to fund films.

00:40:26.800 They don't even have to be conservative films.

00:40:28.680 They just have to cast.

00:40:30.300 They have to uncancel the canceled conservative actors.

00:40:34.300 Just let them act in anything.

00:40:36.020 Yeah, it's tough because a lot of artists are not businessmen.

00:40:40.280 I mean, I'm not a businessman.

00:40:41.500 You know, I mean, I do a thing.

00:40:43.000 I'm a guy.

00:40:43.500 I'm a guy who does a thing and I do it.

00:40:45.320 You know, I dedicated my life to it.

00:40:47.380 I gave everything to it.

00:40:48.800 But I'm not somebody who could who could build a business.

00:40:51.300 I'm not somebody who could put that together.

00:40:52.720 And maybe that's true of some of these guys, too.

00:40:54.560 You know, and Sylvester Stallone is a really interesting example because he won a Kennedy Award and some people were making fun of him because he was in a lot of, you know, Rambo 8 and, you know, Rocky 12 and all that stuff, which I heard him along the way.

00:41:10.380 I heard him on TV kind of complaining about that because the funny thing about Sylvester Stallone, he has that voice like he's a palooka. 0.96

00:41:16.820 You know, he sounds like he's not that bright, but he's, in fact, a very, very talented man.

00:41:21.740 And, you know, he made one of the classic American movies.

00:41:24.620 There are not that many people who can say that.

00:41:26.380 Rocky is a classic American movie.

00:41:28.060 And some of the other films that he's been in have been quite good.

00:41:31.080 And some of his performances have been excellent.

00:41:33.080 He deserved that award.

00:41:34.920 You know, he deserved it's funny.

00:41:36.080 He deserved that award, but he's not somebody who's popular with the elites, you know.

00:41:41.060 And I think all of these guys understand that that's the case.

00:41:46.300 And, you know, who knows?

00:41:47.880 I mean, maybe they're just artists, and artists are not always the best businessmen.

00:41:51.020 Most of us have agents.

00:41:52.340 Most of us have publishers.

00:41:53.920 Well, that's actually one of the challenges to news people getting into the podcast lane because most of us never had to run a business.

00:42:02.540 We were just, quote, talent.

00:42:03.900 And, again, I always laugh that that's the word that the talent used to describe itself.

00:42:07.960 We'll call ourselves the talent.

00:42:10.640 But they're used to just being talent, and they don't know how to run a business, so it's an obstacle.

00:42:15.680 Now, I do think all of this is relevant to what we should be rooting for on this purchase war for Warner Brothers.

00:42:24.520 Warner Brothers, one of the original and big five Hollywood movie studios, like, still cranking out films that we see in the theater, not direct to streaming, not direct to the little box in your living room, but, like, the theater experience.

00:42:39.240 And it makes me think of, like, Tom Cruise when Top Gun Maverick came out.

00:42:42.360 And he was like, I make movies for the big screen.

00:42:46.720 That's what I do.

00:42:47.880 I make big movies for the big theater.

00:42:51.580 That's my craft.

00:42:52.500 And I get it.

00:42:53.960 Like, there's almost like a, not in a negative way, but like a snobbishness toward, like, going direct to streaming for these big Hollywood stars who are used to audiences having the experience that you have in theater with the surround sound and the huge screen and your fellow Americans around you.

00:43:10.300 You know, some talking too loud, some laughing with you, some crying with you.

00:43:13.880 In any event.

00:43:14.480 So now we have a deal between Netflix and Warner Brothers.

00:43:19.520 Netflix has got more money than God, and they're acquiring Warner Brothers for $82.5 billion.

00:43:24.680 Warner Brothers agreed to sell to Netflix.

00:43:27.080 Netflix is terrible. 0.65

00:43:28.480 It's not to say I don't like some of its movies, and I do watch Netflix, but their ownership is disgusting. 0.94

00:43:33.680 They're far left, and they're destroying America.

00:43:36.260 I mean, just to take a quick walk down that lane, they're in the news today for some movie called Queen of Coal, and I do mean Queen.

00:43:47.780 Here's the soundbite from the trailer that we caught.

00:43:50.860 Watch.

00:43:51.980 If you say you're a woman now, then you'll have to do women's work. 1.00

00:43:57.160 And you know this company assigns different jobs to women. 1.00

00:44:03.200 It's not what they're doing to you.

00:44:06.260 No one can take away what you've earned, Kylie.

00:44:12.880 You earned it.

00:44:14.080 It's yours.

00:44:17.840 I'm a minor, Violet.

00:44:19.580 I'm minor.

00:44:24.740 Miss Carbone, inspired by the true story of Carlita and Rodriguez, I think it said.

00:44:32.360 Okay, so here's the story.

00:44:33.620 It's based on a true story of a trans woman, meaning a fake woman, who dreams of working the coal mines, but in a town steeped in superstition and patriarchy, Carlita, the real name is Carlos, must fight to earn her place underground.

00:44:50.120 And it stars Lux Pascal, a trans identifying man, which again means a man who's pretending to be a woman, who's the brother of an existing Hollywood star, Pedro Pascal. 0.87

00:45:01.280 And this is what they want to show us, and this is what they want to show us, how coal miners are a bunch of scumbags who didn't immediately accept a man pretending to be a woman underground in the coal mines.

00:45:13.520 That's what Netflix is devoting its time, money, and attention to. 0.93

00:45:21.680 Concerned Women for America, per the Daily Wire, just released a report on Monday finding 41% of children's content on Netflix contains LGBTQ themes.

00:45:32.940 41, nearly half, okay, so that's, and this is not a children's film, but I'm just talking about the children's films, almost half of them have LGBTQ, so that's Netflix.

00:45:44.040 So I'm not rooting for Netflix to amass more studios, more control over filmmaking or artistry whatsoever.

00:45:52.340 And on the other side, you have Paramount Skydance, which is trying to get Warner Brothers with a hostile takeover, with a much better bid that far exceeds $100 billion.

00:46:04.120 The shareholders will make more money, it could close in less time, it's more likely to get approval from the government,

00:46:09.300 because the Netflix deal would require the number one streamer, Netflix, combining with HBO Max, which is the number three streamer, I guess I'm told,

00:46:18.820 which could not, that could wind up in an antitrust problem that would lead to the disapproval of the merger.

00:46:23.160 But Paramount Skydance has no such issues.

00:46:25.880 But what I'm being told by the left-wing media is we're supposed to hate Paramount Skydance and its bid, Andrew,

00:46:32.720 because Jared Kushner is putting money into that deal, Qatar is putting money into that deal,

00:46:40.440 I think either Saudi Arabia or the UAE, one of those is putting some money into that deal.

00:46:44.040 And so because we've all been critical of some of those Middle Eastern countries over the years,

00:46:50.380 and because Kushner, of course, everyone has to hate him, even though he just reached peace in the Middle East for us,

00:46:55.460 we're supposed to object to that one, because we don't want Qatar controlling CNN, 0.66

00:47:02.020 which would be acquired as a Warner Brothers property, as part of the Paramount Skydance acquisition. 0.98

00:47:08.240 This is how fucked up our media is. 0.97

00:47:10.920 If Qatar ran CNN, it would be a more honest station than it is now. 0.99

00:47:15.640 So I'm not worried about that at all.

00:47:17.680 And yeah, Paramount's run by friends of Trump and people who are Trump sympathetic,

00:47:22.080 and that's why the left doesn't want him to do it.

00:47:24.140 I should say all those Arab countries and Kushner have all said they would have no governance role whatsoever

00:47:28.960 in the newly formed company.

00:47:30.880 No, of course not.

00:47:31.720 I just want to make money.

00:47:33.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.420 And Warner Brothers, look, is a very, very powerful acquisition because it is,

00:47:37.860 it has one of the greatest libraries.

00:47:39.860 I mean, maybe second only to Disney, you know, going back to Casablanca,

00:47:43.520 as well as the Batman franchise and the Harry Potter franchise, it has everything.

00:47:47.840 So, you know, Netflix would be already an enormous streaming powerhouse,

00:47:52.320 would become the one thing that it is not now, which is also have a studio from which

00:47:57.740 it can make a big time, big screen picture.

00:48:00.520 So it would be an enormous leap in power for Netflix.

00:48:04.700 And again, all I can say about this, I mean, is, and you're really right about Netflix,

00:48:10.140 by the way, the incredibly woke, you know, management.

00:48:14.040 They, they had a, a black lives matter during the George Floyd hoax. 0.89

00:48:19.780 They had a black lives matter section that I boycotted because I never wanted to press a button. 1.00

00:48:24.240 Yeah.

00:48:24.660 I never wanted to press a button to saying black, you know, black lives matter and supporting that

00:48:28.080 organization.

00:48:28.620 And as a result was missing some of my favorite actors who happened to be black.

00:48:32.640 And we're on that thing.

00:48:33.520 I just wasn't going to press something that said I supported black lives matter.

00:48:36.440 Cause I knew there were a communist organization.

00:48:38.460 So, so you're right.

00:48:40.480 This is a tremendous leap of power for a tremendously woke company.

00:48:43.780 And they could have gone with paramount, but they were friends, you know, their friendships

00:48:46.840 and relationships involved between the Warners and, and Netflix.

00:48:51.780 But again, all I can say to this is where are we, you know, I mean, why is it, why is it

00:48:57.480 that we have to fight to take over things that have been built?

00:49:01.480 I mean, most of these, most of these companies, not Netflix, but most of the old companies were

00:49:05.600 built by fairly conservative people.

00:49:07.260 They were built by businessmen who wanted to make money and to make money, they wanted

00:49:10.660 to please the audience.

00:49:12.240 I mean, the, the Jews who built, you know, uh, Hollywood were happy to make a film in 1.00

00:49:17.860 which Bing Crosby played a priest because they knew there were Catholics out there that

00:49:21.820 would pay money to go see the movie.

00:49:23.460 Great film.

00:49:24.040 Bells of St. Mary's.

00:49:24.700 Oh my God.

00:49:25.500 One of my faves.

00:49:26.680 The other one is the, what's, what's the one before that?

00:49:30.400 Bells of St. Mary's, the sequel, uh, Going My Way, Going My Way.

00:49:33.840 Oh, Going My Way.

00:49:34.780 Even, even a greater film.

00:49:36.760 My Fave is Christmas in Connecticut, 1947, Barbara Stanwyck.

00:49:39.680 Also great film.

00:49:40.500 Bing was not in it.

00:49:41.500 You know, that was, that was a business because they were businessmen.

00:49:44.540 They wanted to please the public, but in the same way that we put the artists before the

00:49:50.640 art, in the same way we admire the artists who don't deserve our admiration and ignore

00:49:54.600 the art, which sometimes does, uh, in the same way the, uh, Hollywood now wants to instruct

00:50:00.200 us as opposed to entertaining us.

00:50:02.160 And there's going to be a lot more of that coming out of, uh, out of Netflix.

00:50:05.180 And if they have that much power, the power of owning Warner brothers, they're just not

00:50:09.340 going to care whether conservatives like them or not, because they will find some way to

00:50:13.840 make money.

00:50:14.400 They will have so much power.

00:50:15.600 The only way to beat these guys is to compete with them.

00:50:17.940 You're right.

00:50:18.320 The daily wire is trying, but it is really hard.

00:50:20.980 Uh, it is really hard to do.

00:50:22.840 And I think it needs, it needs a bunch of people doing it.

00:50:26.000 Um, you can't bring out an occasional conservative movie because it's your odds of having a good

00:50:31.400 movie are small.

00:50:32.820 You got to do 50 movies to get one that's even decent.

00:50:36.900 And that's the thing that so far, you know, none of us has the power to do, but we should

00:50:41.200 be working toward it and maybe Paramount will do it.

00:50:43.160 Maybe Paramount is better off not getting tangled up in Netflix.

00:50:46.800 Maybe Netflix would swallow it.

00:50:48.380 Maybe this is actually a win for us.

00:50:49.860 It's very possible.

00:50:51.580 I know.

00:50:52.380 I mean, I'm definitely rooting for the Paramount side to win.

00:50:55.340 I don't want Netflix getting more powerful.

00:50:57.480 And I think when, you know, like Netflix, if they could get back to doing normal films

00:51:01.580 and normal shows, great.

00:51:02.660 But they, they've proven who they are politically and otherwise, and even behind the scenes,

00:51:06.460 like their founder, he's a terrible man.

00:51:08.980 Um, okay.

00:51:09.860 I'm going to take a quick pause.

00:51:10.800 I'm going to take an eye on Apple TV though, though.

00:51:12.660 They, they're, they're doing some good work.

00:51:14.620 Okay.

00:51:15.080 I will.

00:51:15.480 Um, stand by coming right back more with Andrew Klavan after this.

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00:52:48.940 Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show on The Daily Wire, is back with me now.

00:52:59.100 Andrew, Jasmine Crockett has announced that she's running for U.S. Senate.

00:53:05.000 She wants the seat currently held by Republican John Cornyn, who is running again, but is vulnerable.

00:53:10.860 And she wants to win the Democratic primary. 0.98

00:53:13.260 And today there's an extraordinary report out from NOTUS and N-O-T-U-S that has the following headline.

00:53:24.100 An AstroTurf recruitment process.

00:53:26.920 National Republicans propped up Jasmine Crockett to push her into a Senate run. 1.00

00:53:31.900 This is the backstory behind how they got her to believe she could win.

00:53:36.420 And when she announced she was running, Colin Allred, the other contender in the Dem primary,

00:53:43.860 immediately dropped out and said it was because she entered the race.

00:53:48.020 And Beto O'Rourke is out.

00:53:49.960 And it's basically hers for the taking.

00:53:52.340 There's one other guy she's running against, but he doesn't have the kind of name recognition she has.

00:53:56.560 This is on the Dem side.

00:53:57.940 She's going to get crushed in the general, which is why the Republicans did this.

00:54:02.600 But and now are bragging about it.

00:54:04.980 But here's the report.

00:54:07.640 Republicans' Senate campaign arm has actively worked behind the scenes to encourage Crockett to jump in,

00:54:14.140 believing that she will be the easiest opponent to beat.

00:54:17.180 Just a month ago, there was grave concern among Republicans about the Senate race,

00:54:21.340 where incumbent John Cornyn's running for re-election, Democrats were running two formidable candidates,

00:54:25.160 and Cornyn was caught in the middle of a bruising three-way primary.

00:54:28.660 The National Republican Senatorial Committee put out a poll in July with Crockett's name included

00:54:33.480 because she had not been included in any of the previous polling.

00:54:36.600 That poll showed her as the leading Dem in a hypothetical matchup. 0.99

00:54:41.740 It was exclusively leaked to the Daily Caller at the time, showing her with 35 percent, Colin Allred at 20,

00:54:48.000 Beto O'Rourke and Joaquin Castro at just 13.

00:54:51.060 The fact that she was included in that poll was no accident.

00:54:55.280 Those Republicans made sure she was.

00:54:58.060 Then they started circulating it and making sure that her name got into other surveys,

00:55:03.620 and she looked like she was, quote, surging in the primary.

00:55:09.840 The Republican Senatorial Committee then worked to amplify those polls and is taking credit for helping,

00:55:15.160 quote, orchestrate the pylon of those polling numbers to really drive the news cycle

00:55:19.080 and the narrative that Crockett was surging in Texas.

00:55:24.200 And then, sure enough, Jasmine Crockett responded by, not to this article, but to her polls,

00:55:28.700 by saying, the more I saw the poll results, I could not ignore the trends that were clear.

00:55:33.100 And now they say they are guilty, happily, of what they call an astroturf recruitment process

00:55:41.700 because they wanted the other more threatening Democrat candidates to drop out, which they now have,

00:55:51.140 and they have their very favorite opponent, Jasmine Crockett,

00:55:55.280 to stare down whoever winds up with a Republican nomination.

00:55:58.140 This is exactly what the Dems did to the Republicans in the primary process.

00:56:03.620 For the presidential race and other races that were happening, you know, like Senate races,

00:56:06.980 and even in the midterms before that.

00:56:09.480 So turnabout is fair play.

00:56:11.320 Absolutely.

00:56:11.980 It's perfectly good political practice.

00:56:14.120 Politics isn't beanbag.

00:56:15.700 You know, it's a tough game and people play it tough.

00:56:19.280 And as you say, the Democrats funded every chucklehead Republican they could find to throw them up there.

00:56:25.600 The only problem with it is it can backfire.

00:56:28.600 I don't think it is in this case.

00:56:29.820 I don't think she has a chance in Texas.

00:56:31.420 But still, it can backfire on you when you think somebody is so radical.

00:56:36.100 You remember, I'm sure, all those lefties when Trump came down the escalator and announced that he was running,

00:56:42.880 just saying, go ahead and run.

00:56:44.140 We want you to run.

00:56:45.060 Oh, my gosh, how wonderful. 0.99

00:56:46.160 It's going to be so much fun to watch you get destroyed.

00:56:48.660 You know, who's crying now?

00:56:49.880 And I think that that is a problem with this strategy.

00:56:53.160 But frankly, I'm glad the Republicans are this savvy and smart. 0.90

00:56:57.200 They're usually such buffoons when it comes to dealing with the political landscape.

00:57:01.800 And this is this actually gives me a little bit of hope that they know what they're doing. 0.79

00:57:05.440 I think in this case, they did the right thing.

00:57:07.860 Yeah.

00:57:08.340 Right.

00:57:08.620 So she first had her weird little campaign announcement yesterday with just her sort of staring into the distance and Trump insulting her.

00:57:16.640 I mean, I guess it does get attention.

00:57:18.020 So on that front, it's a win.

00:57:19.800 But he was just saying what a low IQ individual she was, which is really probably not great, something you don't want to reinforce.

00:57:25.480 Now she's out today with a rapper who appeared at a rally she was at trying to, like, rap about how great she is as she just sits there trying to look cool.

00:57:34.060 I don't know.

00:57:34.180 Do we have that, Steve?

00:57:36.080 Yes, we do.

00:57:36.740 Stand by.

00:57:37.200 Here it is.

00:58:05.440 All right.

00:58:06.000 I had enough of that.

00:58:06.640 You get the flavor.

00:58:08.640 She's sitting there trying to look like badass and just like doing her nails. 1.00

00:58:12.880 If I knew you were going to play that stuff, I wouldn't have come, Megan.

00:58:15.420 I'm sorry.

00:58:15.960 I know.

00:58:16.360 I'm sorry.

00:58:17.140 You've got nothing to deserve this.

00:58:18.720 Nothing.

00:58:19.060 I really, I just want to say.

00:58:21.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:58:22.180 But, you know, Congress to me has become this weird collection of crazy women. 1.00

00:58:27.320 I mean, is that just me? 0.98

00:58:28.380 I don't want to be too sexist. 0.96

00:58:30.760 But it just seems like every crazy woman in politics is in Congress, is in the House of Representatives. 1.00

00:58:35.580 There's a lot of crazy in there. 0.97

00:58:36.840 I feel for Mike Johnson.

00:58:38.720 I think he's doing such a great job and he's organizing, you know, he's wrangling these cats.

00:58:47.000 And I just see these women go off in these weird, weird ways. 1.00

00:58:50.760 Jasmine Crockett, I mean, you're right.

00:58:54.660 Trump should be a little bit more polite, I think, in his dealings.

00:58:57.740 It always blows back on him.

00:58:59.200 You know, people love the fact that he's so frank and he comes out.

00:59:02.120 But whenever he starts insulting people, it always blows back on him.

00:59:05.020 It's really a mistake.

00:59:06.300 But he's right.

00:59:07.760 I mean, there's no question that he's right. 0.99

00:59:09.380 The woman is, she's a fake. 1.00

00:59:12.220 You know, she puts on different accents for different people. 1.00

00:59:15.340 She's, and she's just a dimwit, you know, she's just a dimwit. 1.00

00:59:19.300 And I did like her crying sentimentally because she loves Texas so much when she announced her candidacy. 0.99

00:59:28.380 It also was one of the saddest little gatherings of people meant to sort of, you know, be enthusiastic and encouraging.

00:59:36.820 So I think the Republicans have guessed right on this one, that she was the one to back.

00:59:41.240 And I think it's going to be a disaster for them.

00:59:43.600 But, you know, again, this is one of those techniques that you always admire it when it works.

00:59:48.900 But it can go bad on you.

00:59:51.640 Yes, I agree with you.

00:59:53.180 I don't think there's a lot of danger of that in Texas.

00:59:55.520 But to your point about the loons, especially the female loons in Congress, there's a representative, Haley Stevens. 1.00

01:00:04.180 She's from Michigan's 11th district.

01:00:06.920 And she just tweeted out, today, the 10th?

01:00:09.900 Today, she tweeted out, today, I formally introduced articles of impeachment against Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has turned his back on science and the safety of the American people.

01:00:20.960 Michiganders cannot take another day of this chaos.

01:00:23.920 And here is Haley Stevens during COVID, just in case you're wondering who the hell this woman is. 0.99

01:00:32.280 Watch this.

01:00:34.380 I yield the gentlelady 30 additional seconds. 0.95

01:00:37.400 The gentlewoman is recognized for an additional 30 seconds.

01:00:40.660 The cause of their servitude, sharing in the profession with those who have not come before you. 0.97

01:00:45.680 Similar times of trying medical needs.

01:00:47.780 She's wearing gloves.

01:00:48.480 Wars and flus pass. 0.81

01:00:49.900 You will see darkness.

01:00:51.340 You will be pushed.

01:00:52.740 And our society needs you to stand together at this time.

01:00:56.760 Our country loves you.

01:00:58.200 To our doctors and our nurses, I wear these lace lace.

01:01:00.820 The gentlelady's time has expired. 0.54

01:01:02.600 Do you want to tell every American do not need the brain?

01:01:03.280 The gentleman from Maryland is wrecking his reserves.

01:01:08.040 She's having herself a normal one.

01:01:11.600 It's like, who are these people?

01:01:13.160 And how did they get elected?

01:01:14.420 You know, I remember Rush Limbaugh when saying that he wasn't afraid for America because Barack Obama was reelected.

01:01:21.860 He was afraid for America because people would reelect him.

01:01:24.060 He was afraid of the fact that the people would fall for that.

01:01:27.880 And, you know, I feel this way about these people.

01:01:30.620 Who votes for them? 0.84

01:01:31.660 Who votes for them? 0.84

01:01:32.360 I see all this, all this stuff online.

01:01:35.160 Michiganders.

01:01:35.480 They're the same people who voted for Alyssa Slotkin.

01:01:38.380 You've let us all down.

01:01:40.060 Just want you to know that.

01:01:40.940 All right.

01:01:41.140 No, I'm done.

01:01:42.180 Let's check in on Ilhan Omar.

01:01:44.660 Trump had a rally yesterday in Pennsylvania, and I'm just going to set it up.

01:01:48.960 Here's here's what Trump had to say about Ilhan Omar yesterday.

01:01:52.860 It's at 17.

01:01:56.280 I love this Ilhan Omar, whatever the hell it is, with a little tune.

01:02:01.480 It's a little turban. 1.00

01:02:03.700 I love her.

01:02:04.740 She comes in. 1.00

01:02:05.660 There's nothing but bitch. 1.00

01:02:07.220 She comes from a country where, I mean, it's considered about the worst country in the world. 1.00

01:02:13.300 They police themselves.

01:02:14.500 They kill each other all the time.

01:02:16.360 I love her.

01:02:17.200 She comes to our country, and she's always complaining about, the Constitution allows me to do this. 0.90

01:02:24.700 We ought to get her the hell out. 1.00

01:02:26.400 She married her brother in order to get in, right? 0.98

01:02:29.960 She married her brother.

01:02:31.020 Can you imagine if Donald Trump married her sister beautiful?

01:02:39.900 She's a beautiful person.

01:02:41.380 She should get the hell out. 1.00

01:02:42.420 Throw the hell out. 1.00

01:02:43.240 She does nothing but complain. 0.99

01:02:45.080 The guy is the funniest president since Lincoln.

01:02:58.040 He may be funnier than Lincoln.

01:02:59.140 He is a really funny person.

01:03:00.140 Kicking off his affordability tour, trying to message to people and get them more enthusiastic about what he's done so far.

01:03:06.780 But this is so funny, Andrew.

01:03:08.880 And, like, no quarter for Ilhan Omar, who is one of his chief antagonists.

01:03:13.560 And what a lucky break that's been for Trump.

01:03:16.460 Now, let's check in on Ilhan Omar and see what she's in the news for.

01:03:21.420 Well, it happens to be comments she made just last year, 2024, where, let's see.

01:03:28.660 Okay, hold on.

01:03:30.440 She was in a rant to her fellow Somalis.

01:03:36.880 Okay?

01:03:37.100 Um, Ambassador Rhoda J. Elmi, the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs for Somaliland, a region along the Gulf of Aden that broke away from Somalia in 1991,

01:03:49.280 shared a clip of comments Omar made in Minneapolis over this weekend in 2024 with a translation that Omar has since disputed.

01:03:58.760 But according to this Elmi, whose translation is consistent with quotations in, um, a resolution that's now taking aim at Ilhan Omar, Omar said the U.S. government, quote,

01:04:10.100 will only do what Somalians in the U.S. tell them to do. 0.99

01:04:14.940 We have now put an English voiceover on the soundbite, um, right?

01:04:21.040 Do we have that, Deb?

01:04:21.780 And, uh, this is, we're following the translation from this Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs for Somaliland, Ambassador Rhoda Elmi.

01:04:32.600 Take a listen.

01:04:33.360 A listen.

01:04:35.000 My answer to Somalians was that the U.S. government will only do what Somalians in the U.S. tell them to do. 0.51

01:04:41.280 They will do what we want and nothing else.

01:04:43.860 They must follow our orders, and that is how we will safeguard the interest of Somalia.

01:04:47.740 We Somalians must have that confidence in ourselves that we call for the shots in the U.S.

01:04:52.960 We live in the U.S., pay taxes in the U.S., and have a real voice.

01:04:57.480 U.S. is a country where one of your daughters is in Congress to represent your interest. 1.00

01:05:01.900 As long as I am in the U.S. Congress, Somalia will never be in danger.

01:05:05.780 Its waters will not be stolen by Ethiopia or others.

01:05:09.340 The U.S. would not dare to support anyone against Somalia to steal our land or oceans.

01:05:14.660 Sleep in comfort.

01:05:15.440 Knowing I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system.

01:05:22.660 So, Elon Musk is calling this treason.

01:05:26.660 It's pretty on the nose.

01:05:28.460 I mean, we're having a robust debate in this country these days about whether it's acceptable to have loyalty to another country before the United States as an American citizen.

01:05:37.960 We don't do it in the context of Somalia that much, but I think someone needs to check in on Ilhan Omar and her loyalties.

01:05:47.580 Yeah, well, definitely.

01:05:48.740 I can just see the American troops being dispatched to the border of Ethiopia to protect the water rights of Somalia.

01:05:54.700 I don't think that's going to happen somehow.

01:05:57.400 She tells him what to do.

01:05:58.260 Yeah, that's right.

01:05:59.480 She's in charge.

01:06:00.360 You know, Trump is absolutely right about her.

01:06:03.380 I believe, I can't prove it, but I believe she came into the country illegally and committed a crime in marrying her brother. 0.55

01:06:11.800 I think she is as disloyal a person and as ungrateful a person as I have ever seen.

01:06:19.080 You know, all of these guys strike me as incredibly ungrateful.

01:06:23.600 This country gives people everything.

01:06:25.700 It gives you everything you need to succeed.

01:06:28.060 It gives you, you know, all kinds of gifts that we shower on people that are taking.

01:06:32.640 The money, the tax money comes from other people who worked to earn it that is now being taken away from them and given to you.

01:06:39.360 And he's right.

01:06:40.760 Trump is right about this.

01:06:41.760 He's 100 percent right. 0.99

01:06:42.760 All they do is bitch and moan. 1.00

01:06:44.400 All they do is complain. 0.99

01:06:45.960 And I mean, and I feel this way, you know, I will say it.

01:06:49.480 I feel this way about the American blacks who think that they should be given some kind of, you know, repayment for slavery, a state that they were never, ever in. 0.96

01:06:59.980 Or Jasmine Crockett thinks that they should get, they should not pay taxes. 0.99

01:07:03.480 I know they should not pay taxes because they were, not because they were held slaves,

01:07:07.700 because someone with their same skin color was held slaves.

01:07:11.220 And I mean, I just think like.

01:07:12.620 With whom they have probably zero genetic link or descendancy at all.

01:07:16.560 None, you know.

01:07:17.140 And I just think, you know, God, you know, gratitude is good for you.

01:07:21.080 It's like, nevermind, nevermind the country which has earned their gratitude, but it's good for you.

01:07:26.160 You know, when you wake up in the morning and you're thankful that you're here and you're thankful that, you know,

01:07:29.840 there are a lot of places you could be born, like Somalia, where you wouldn't have anything like the chances that you have here.

01:07:36.600 The life here is good.

01:07:37.640 The chances here are good.

01:07:38.760 Just a little bit of gratitude would make their lives better.

01:07:41.220 It would make Minnesota better.

01:07:42.620 I mean, Trump is absolutely right about this. 1.00

01:07:44.700 And when Trump attacked them and he said, oh, some of these people are garbage, they were saying, well, this white supremacist. 1.00

01:07:49.680 Look, there's no white supremacy in America. 1.00

01:07:51.760 You know, take a hike.

01:07:52.860 Take a hike.

01:07:53.640 This is the least bigoted country, you know, I have ever been in.

01:07:57.060 And I lived overseas for seven years.

01:07:59.080 I spent most of the 90s overseas.

01:08:00.920 This is the least bigoted country on the planet.

01:08:04.840 And the complaining and the victimizing, you know, this, oh, what a victim you are.

01:08:09.000 It's just, it's not, it's not good for you.

01:08:10.780 It's not good for your people, whoever you see your people to be. 1.00

01:08:14.140 It's not good for the country.

01:08:15.340 And it, you know, if it weren't for the fact that our media is so bloody corrupt, you know, nobody, nobody would take it seriously.

01:08:23.300 I mean, everybody wants to be a victim.

01:08:24.820 People get online to be a victim in this country.

01:08:27.060 The one country where you're probably not a victim, where you're just blessed.

01:08:30.860 If you are here, you won the lottery.

01:08:32.920 You won the lottery of life.

01:08:34.280 And you should be thankful every day and work hard to improve your life and the country around you.

01:08:39.040 Trump is 100% right on this.

01:08:41.140 And yeah, he says it in the roughest possible terms.

01:08:43.160 And he's hilarious.

01:08:44.600 But it's just all true.

01:08:46.440 Everything he says about this is true. 0.99

01:08:48.300 If all you do is bitch and moan and complain, get out. 1.00

01:08:51.440 There's a plane leaving every hour. 1.00

01:08:52.560 I mean, a note to Ilhan Omar and all the other Somalis here in America.

01:08:57.360 You know where they love Somalians?

01:09:00.200 In Somalia.

01:09:01.740 Yeah.

01:09:02.000 Off you go.

01:09:03.180 You're going to have no problem with bigotry, racism, this alleged racism that is us.

01:09:08.280 They love Somalians over there.

01:09:10.360 You're going to be surrounded by them.

01:09:12.020 I think you're going to be very happy.

01:09:13.800 Take care and Godspeed.

01:09:15.700 Andrew Klavan, a pleasure, my friend.

01:09:17.800 I got to run.

01:09:18.220 Always great to see you, Megan.

01:09:19.060 Thanks a lot.

01:09:19.480 All right, to be continued.

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01:12:22.220 He has millions of followers on social media and a hit podcast.

01:12:26.080 And UFC CEO Dana White credits Brecka for transforming his life.

01:12:32.300 After a blood test estimated, Dana White only had 10 years to live.

01:12:36.660 You can see on the screen the changes in his physique, look at that, that White posted on

01:12:41.560 Instagram, and here he is on Brecka's podcast.

01:12:44.720 Watch.

01:12:44.940 My life is exactly the same now as it was, you know, a year and a half ago before I met

01:12:52.240 you, except for the fact that I feel incredible every day.

01:12:56.100 I'm way more productive.

01:12:58.500 You know, when you said, give me 10 weeks, by the time I was in 10, 11, 12 weeks, whatever

01:13:03.540 it was, I started to feel like I was in my 30s again.

01:13:06.460 And no bullshit, I feel like I'm in my 20s now.

01:13:09.900 I swear to God, I do. 0.91

01:13:11.000 You know, I quit drinking in January, so now I don't drink.

01:13:15.560 I'm doing the superhuman protocol.

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01:13:31.780 can be turned around.

01:13:33.120 You just need guidance and you need to know how to do it.

01:13:38.000 Yeah.

01:13:38.280 And you're the guy.

01:13:40.380 Great.

01:13:40.820 Let's do this thing.

01:13:42.260 Gary Brecka is my guest now.

01:13:44.680 Tell me everything, Gary.

01:13:46.140 Welcome.

01:13:46.700 Yeah, tell me everything.

01:13:49.500 Yeah, what a great journey I had with Dana White, man.

01:13:52.080 He's been an incredible part of my journey.

01:13:54.500 That was going over two years ago, and he hasn't gone back.

01:13:57.840 You know, he's still off all of his pharmaceuticals, off all his cardiovascular medication, off his

01:14:01.940 medication for tinnitus.

01:14:03.240 He's, yeah, he's still not on a sleep, you know, back on a sleep pat machine.

01:14:06.420 He was on a CPAP machine at night.

01:14:08.580 So he is a drug and free of all of those devices.

01:14:12.880 So where do you begin?

01:14:14.840 Because I read your eight tips, like the general, we can go through them, but like they make

01:14:20.160 a lot of sense.

01:14:21.160 You know, the sleep, make sure it's regular, make sure it's regimented, lower the temperature

01:14:25.100 to 68 degrees.

01:14:26.100 I got that.

01:14:26.720 Like, that's a good one.

01:14:28.220 Walk, eat whole foods, only stuff your great grandmother would eat.

01:14:31.800 I love all that, but like, what, is there something special in the formula that takes you from

01:14:36.860 on the CPAP machine and all these drugs to like Dana White?

01:14:40.500 I feel like I'm in my 20s.

01:14:42.260 Yeah, I'll tell you exactly what's on that.

01:14:43.840 So, I mean, we need to start with the basics, right?

01:14:46.100 I mean, we know this from Blue Zone studies.

01:14:47.740 We know this from the big data that if you don't master your sleep, if you don't eat a

01:14:52.780 whole food diet, which is a diet absent of processed food, and if you don't make exercise

01:14:57.000 non-negotiable, basically nothing else matters.

01:14:59.260 We can't really sleep our way around a poor diet, and we can't exercise our way around

01:15:04.700 not sleeping.

01:15:06.140 And again, we know this from big data, from Blue Zone studies.

01:15:09.780 There's no continuity between diets, meaning if you look at the areas of the world where

01:15:14.640 people are living the longest, healthiest, happiest lives, it's not because of the carnivore

01:15:19.020 diet or the keto diet or paleo or pescatarian or vegan or vegetarian.

01:15:22.780 It's because they are eating no processed food, and all of us can do that.

01:15:27.120 All of us can switch to a whole food diet.

01:15:29.260 The other non-negotiable is bringing your attention to your sleep.

01:15:33.180 You know, a few years ago, I actually decided that I would schedule all of my meetings and

01:15:36.940 travel around sleep and exercise, and I can't tell you what a demonstrative change in my life

01:15:42.080 that that made.

01:15:43.060 So that's one of the things that I incorporate into, you know, clients of mine, into their

01:15:46.580 schedule.

01:15:46.980 I really try to fix their sleep.

01:15:48.640 And then finally, you know, making mobility non-negotiable.

01:15:51.400 We know that sitting is the new smoking.

01:15:53.340 I mean, sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all-cause mortality, and this is entirely

01:15:58.940 fixable.

01:16:00.040 And so if you were to draw your attention to three things, I would say whole food diet,

01:16:03.960 master your sleep, and make mobility non-negotiable.

01:16:06.600 And a lot of people don't focus on those three things, and then they want the magic pill.

01:16:10.800 Is it NAD IVs?

01:16:11.880 Is it nicotinibiriboside?

01:16:13.140 Is it ashwagandha, St. John's work, CoQ10?

01:16:15.820 You know, is it any of these magic supplements?

01:16:17.860 And it's not.

01:16:18.760 It's those three basics.

01:16:20.520 And then after that, you know, I truly believe that if you really want to embark on a sincere

01:16:25.100 health journey, you need to supplement for deficiency, not the sake of supplementing.

01:16:30.740 You know, the worst thing you can do is get on Google and start Googling around about what

01:16:33.760 is a good supplement.

01:16:34.760 And this is where most people get lost, because you can make an argument for just about anything.

01:16:38.580 So the question is, what does your body need?

01:16:41.060 And we believe this in plant physiology.

01:16:43.600 So if you were to take a leaf, let's say, that was rotting in a palm tree, and you

01:16:47.800 called a true arborist, like a true botanist out to look at that leaf, they wouldn't even

01:16:52.320 touch the leaf.

01:16:53.360 You know, they would core test the soil, and they would say, you know what, Megan, there's

01:16:56.280 no nitrogen in this soil.

01:16:57.720 And they would add nitrogen to the soil, and the leaf would heal.

01:17:00.700 Well, human beings are no different.

01:17:02.400 When you deprive the human body of certain raw materials, and by raw materials, I'm talking

01:17:07.320 about vitamins, minerals, amino acids, basic nutrients, you get the expression of disease.

01:17:13.920 You know, there's so many of your listeners right now that go to bed tired, but as their

01:17:20.460 environment quiets, their mind wakes up, and they start to ruminate.

01:17:24.300 So they lay there in bed, and their mind awake, but their body tired, and they ruminate on

01:17:27.960 things for minutes or hours, and it robs them of deep sleep.

01:17:31.100 And this is very easy to fix.

01:17:32.560 The same thing with, you know, nagging issues like attention deficit disorders, which is not

01:17:37.540 really an attention deficit at all.

01:17:39.420 It's an attention overload disorder.

01:17:41.020 It's too many windows opening in our mind at the same time.

01:17:44.380 And most of us think that we need to fix this by adding amphetamines to our system to race

01:17:49.020 the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind, things like Vyvanse, Ritalin,

01:17:53.220 Adderall.

01:17:53.820 But the truth is, we can supplement to quiet the mind.

01:17:56.840 You know, and, you know, there are gut issues.

01:17:58.940 You know, the vast majority of my clients would have gut issues, you know, diarrhea, constipation,

01:18:04.040 irritability, cramping, bloating.

01:18:05.940 And they couldn't relate it to what they had last eaten because they overlook the pace

01:18:11.200 of the gut.

01:18:12.260 They look at food allergies and food sensitivities, but they don't know that certain nutrient

01:18:16.320 deficiencies.

01:18:17.420 So, for example, a deficiency in something called methylfolate, which is very easy to

01:18:22.500 get over the counter. 0.99

01:18:23.320 It's a really inexpensive supplement.

01:18:25.640 And they can fix gut motility issues and they can restore the pace of their gut to normal.

01:18:31.220 So now they don't eat the same thing on Monday and they're fine and they eat the exact same

01:18:35.500 thing on Wednesday and then end up blowing up like a tick.

01:18:38.440 And so very often what happens in the human body is we deprive it of certain raw materials.

01:18:44.900 Vitamin D3 is probably the most clinically deficient nutrient in the vast majority of human beings.

01:18:50.820 And if you look at what happens when you just deprive the body of vitamin D3, colocalciferol,

01:18:56.280 the only vitamin, by the way, that human beings can make on our own, you don't need to eat,

01:19:00.300 you don't need to supplement, you don't need to drink, all you need to do is expose your

01:19:04.020 skin to sunlight, your body will make it with the cholesterol in your bloodstream.

01:19:07.600 This nutrient is so important for human function that when it's deficient, we get the expression

01:19:12.800 of disease.

01:19:13.780 If you look at the data on COVID, for example, the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID

01:19:18.120 was a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3, not immunosuppressants, not obesity, not type 2

01:19:24.380 diabetes, it was a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.

01:19:28.540 And so very often what I'll do is I'll have clients of mine once in their lifetime do a

01:19:34.380 test called a genetic methylation test.

01:19:38.280 What this test does, it's a cheek swab, you swab your cheek, send it into a lab, and what 0.64

01:19:43.040 this test will tell you is what nutrients, what raw material can your body convert into

01:19:49.260 the usable form, and what can it not, and you supplement for that deficiency.

01:19:54.900 If you want to see magic really happen in human beings, you give their body the raw material

01:19:59.500 it needs to do its job.

01:20:01.660 Now where can you get one of these tests?

01:20:03.320 Only from Gary Brekka, or do you get it online?

01:20:05.340 No, there are lots of places that do...

01:20:07.380 Who will analyze it for you?

01:20:07.680 Yeah, there are lots of places that do genetic methylation tests.

01:20:10.900 I mean, I have a genetic methylation test, but I'm not here to sell my test.

01:20:14.180 You want to get a genetic methylation test.

01:20:16.760 The reason why I say methylation is because if you get a full genome sequence, you're going

01:20:21.440 to get paralysis of analysis.

01:20:23.040 You're going to see that you have olive skin and green eyes and detached earlobes, and you

01:20:27.320 can see the distance on your index fingers, and none of that matters, not in terms of what

01:20:32.340 you supplement with.

01:20:33.220 But genes of methylation are genes that take raw materials and convert them into the usable

01:20:39.320 form.

01:20:40.180 So for example, we pull crude oil out of the ground, but you can't put crude oil into your

01:20:44.160 gas tank.

01:20:45.100 And the reason why you can't is because the car doesn't understand that fuel source.

01:20:49.220 But if you take crude oil and you refine it into gasoline, now the car can run.

01:20:54.640 Well, human beings are no different.

01:20:56.120 We take vitamins, minerals, amino acids, proteins, carbohydrates, nutrients of all kind.

01:21:00.940 We put them into the body, and then the body converts these into the form it can use.

01:21:06.280 If you can't make this conversion, you have a deficiency, and it is this deficiency that

01:21:12.520 leads to the expression of these diseases.

01:21:15.400 You know, the human genome is specifically designed to not pass on disease.

01:21:20.220 But if you went to your doctor and you had high blood pressure, and they did all kinds of

01:21:25.040 cardiac exams.

01:21:25.800 You know, they did an EKG and an EEG and a die contrast study and a cardiac catheterization

01:21:30.240 and heart sounds and lung sounds.

01:21:31.880 And they couldn't find anything wrong with your heart.

01:21:33.860 The next thing they'll do is they'll look at your family history and they'll say, oh

01:21:37.320 my gosh, Megan, your mom's brother and your dad's brother both had high blood pressure.

01:21:43.140 You have familial hypertension or genetically inherited hypertension.

01:21:47.500 And you go, oh, I guess I just lost the genetic lottery, so now I need to make medication for

01:21:52.540 the rest of my life.

01:21:53.300 And that's patently false.

01:21:54.880 You know, there aren't genes for a lot of these conditions.

01:21:57.220 So they're not passed on the genome.

01:21:59.940 They run in families, but they are not genetic.

01:22:04.160 What we pass from generation to generation very often is not disease.

01:22:08.820 We pass the inability for the body to refine a raw material, which causes a deficiency,

01:22:16.260 which leads to that disease.

01:22:18.140 So very specifically in Dana White's case, he had an impaired ability at a gene mutation

01:22:23.000 called MTHFR.

01:22:25.540 I won't tell you what the nickname is for that gene.

01:22:27.820 Right.

01:22:28.420 Got it.

01:22:29.060 Right.

01:22:29.740 It stands for methylene tetrahydrofolate reductase, just so you know.

01:22:33.420 Not what it looks like.

01:22:34.720 But this gene mutation, 46% of the population has it.

01:22:37.860 So 46% of your listeners have it right now.

01:22:40.560 And what this gene mutation does is it impairs the ability for the body or blocks the ability

01:22:46.500 for the body to convert folic acid into the form the body can use called folinic acid or

01:22:52.700 methylfolate.

01:22:53.540 And that doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize that folic acid is the most prevalent

01:22:58.020 nutrient in the human diet.

01:22:59.560 We spray it on all of our grains, potatoes, or sorry, grains, pasta, flour, rice, cereals are

01:23:06.820 all sprayed with this chemical called folic acid.

01:23:10.160 And I say chemical because we make it in a laboratory.

01:23:12.680 Most people think that folic acid occurs naturally in nature.

01:23:15.720 It doesn't.

01:23:16.320 You can't find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth.

01:23:19.300 We make it in a laboratory.

01:23:21.240 Folate occurs naturally in nature.

01:23:23.520 But we fortify or enrich foods.

01:23:25.960 So if you see a label on a food package that says fortified or enriched, that means it's

01:23:31.240 been sprayed with the chemical folic acid.

01:23:33.600 Well, 46% of the population can't break this compound down.

01:23:37.640 And if you can't break this compound down, it rises.

01:23:41.280 And if you can't convert it into the usable form, methylfolate, you have a deficiency.

01:23:46.500 So what are the consequences of that deficiency?

01:23:48.740 Well, the first consequence is impaired gut motility.

01:23:51.580 You get gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping, and you start down

01:23:56.660 the road of food allergy testing, food sensitivity testing, gut microbiome testing, and nothing

01:24:00.900 works because you haven't addressed the pace of the gut.

01:24:04.140 It also impairs the ability for us to take an amino acid called tryptophan and convert it

01:24:10.940 into the neurotransmitter serotonin.

01:24:14.140 And again, this might not sound like a big deal, but serotonin is the main driver of mood,

01:24:18.960 the main driver of behavior.

01:24:20.240 This is why I've never once in my entire lifetime met a sufferer of anxiety that did not also

01:24:27.300 have gut issues.

01:24:28.660 The two go hand in hand.

01:24:30.360 You don't have anxiety and have good gut motility.

01:24:33.080 You don't have anxiety and not suffer from irritable gut issues.

01:24:36.600 Full stop.

01:24:37.440 And any of your listeners that have anxiety will also go, wow, that's actually true.

01:24:41.200 So why do these two connect it?

01:24:42.760 Because they're connected to the same nutrient deficiency.

01:24:45.060 So when you put this raw material back in the human body, you reduce or eliminate the

01:24:51.300 expression of disease.

01:24:52.700 In fact, if you're suffering from anxiety right now, just ask yourself these three questions.

01:24:57.620 Number one, have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime?

01:25:00.880 The vast majority of people will say yes.

01:25:02.880 The reason why they say yes is because it's related to this gene mutation.

01:25:05.660 Can you point to the specific trigger that causes it?

01:25:09.780 The vast majority of people will say no.

01:25:11.840 You know, I don't need to walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony and be afraid of heights

01:25:15.680 to feel anxiety.

01:25:16.560 I don't need to be claustrophobic and step on a crowded elevator to feel anxiety.

01:25:19.840 I can be sitting at dinner with my family on an otherwise innocuous night and I can just,

01:25:24.720 you know, all of a sudden just be kind of overwhelmed with anxiety.

01:25:27.840 My heart can start racing.

01:25:29.120 You know, I can start feeling the presence of a fear, even though there's no presence of a

01:25:33.400 fear. And the last question is, if you've tried anti-anxiety medications, did they work?

01:25:38.780 And they'll say no.

01:25:39.700 They made me feel like a zombie.

01:25:41.200 So I had two choices, feel anxiety or feel like a zombie.

01:25:43.880 This is your indication that this is a nutrient deficiency.

01:25:47.540 And this genetic methylation test will spot the gene that's responsible and you can supplement

01:25:53.680 for its deficiency.

01:25:55.360 So in Dana's case, he had an impaired ability to break down an amino acid called homocysteine.

01:26:02.380 And when you have high blood pressure and they find nothing wrong with your heart,

01:26:07.180 very often it is this amino acid called homocysteine.

01:26:11.320 When it rises in the bloodstream and it's sort of cruising by the inside lining of your arteries,

01:26:16.740 it will irritate your artery.

01:26:18.940 And if you irritate an artery, it will clamp down.

01:26:22.940 And if you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, the pressure goes up.

01:26:27.940 So if I wanted to drive your blood pressure up right now, Megan, I would just put compression

01:26:31.640 gear on your legs.

01:26:33.100 If I put compression stocking on both of your legs, your blood pressure would skyrocket.

01:26:37.540 Nothing wrong with your heart.

01:26:39.160 They put those on me after I gave birth to my children.

01:26:43.060 Exactly. Not to raise your blood pressure.

01:26:44.260 I don't know how in the hospital they make you wear those things.

01:26:46.600 Yeah. And your blood pressure went up.

01:26:48.400 And if they had taken your blood pressure before and after, they'd go, oh my gosh,

01:26:51.220 you have hypertension.

01:26:51.760 But you don't. You just have vascular compression, right?

01:26:56.160 I mean, we have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in our body.

01:26:59.640 It does not take much arterial narrowing to drive pressure up.

01:27:03.260 And the other fascinating fact about our circulation is that only 30% of our circulation

01:27:07.820 is done by our heart.

01:27:09.480 Most people think our heart circulates all the blood in our body.

01:27:12.120 It doesn't.

01:27:13.020 It circulates 30% of the blood in your body.

01:27:15.580 So the question is, how does the other 70% circulate?

01:27:18.840 It's venules and capillaries, and it's circulated by an activity called vasomotor.

01:27:24.340 So think of a snake swallowing a mouse, right?

01:27:26.960 We don't put a garden hose in the snake's mouth and push the mouse along.

01:27:31.140 We actually have a muscular transaction.

01:27:33.900 You know, it's a muscular contraction that pushes the mouse along.

01:27:37.160 This is similar to how 70% of our circulation works.

01:27:40.340 And if you impair that circulation, your pressure rises.

01:27:45.620 And that runs in families, not a gene for hypertension.

01:27:50.060 Wow.

01:27:50.500 And we can go on and on.

01:27:51.420 We can talk about thyroid, type 2 diabetes, drug and alcohol addiction.

01:27:54.340 But it all starts with that test, which will show you where you're deficient in terms of

01:27:58.980 your genes.

01:28:00.380 And some of these genetic deficiencies can be made up with just like over-the-counter supplements?

01:28:06.160 Over-the-counter supplements.

01:28:07.600 Simple supplementation that your body's deficient in.

01:28:09.740 And, you know, back to the plant example, if you didn't find the nitrogen missing in

01:28:14.020 the soil, nothing else would have mattered.

01:28:16.520 So people try to supplement around this deficiency.

01:28:19.160 They go, well, my aunt takes NAD, which is great.

01:28:21.900 And so is ashwagandha.

01:28:23.040 And so is St. John's wort.

01:28:23.980 And so is CoQ10.

01:28:24.920 And so is resveratrol.

01:28:25.920 And so are all of these supplements.

01:28:28.020 Each of them has a role.

01:28:29.480 The question is, what does your body need?

01:28:32.080 And if you don't have data, you're just guessing.

01:28:34.040 And this is why some people find a magic bullet with a certain supplement and some people have

01:28:38.640 no effect at all.

01:28:40.000 Yes, that makes perfect sense.

01:28:42.500 Yeah.

01:28:42.940 Once you know what to supplement with, I'm telling you, magic happens in human beings.

01:28:47.480 You know, the vast majority of people-

01:28:48.960 Does it matter?

01:28:49.280 It does matter, right, where you get the supplements from?

01:28:51.700 Because, I mean, you can go on Amazon and just order this stuff from anywhere.

01:28:54.140 You don't know who's making it.

01:28:55.700 Yeah, this is true.

01:28:56.960 You know, sadly, the supplement industry is kind of like the wild, wild west.

01:29:00.640 If you go to my website, theultimatehuman.com, I'll tell you a lot of the supplements that

01:29:05.220 I endorse.

01:29:06.500 You know, I'm not here to sell my supplements.

01:29:08.020 That's good.

01:29:08.420 No, but that's helpful.

01:29:09.040 It's not even mine.

01:29:10.300 But I like to direct people to places where they can trust supplement labels and supplement

01:29:14.760 manufacturers.

01:29:15.580 I want to jump back to something you said earlier because this is important and I don't have

01:29:19.480 you forever.

01:29:20.140 I wish I did.

01:29:21.560 Yeah.

01:29:21.700 D3, I know one of your recommendations is get out there first thing in the morning

01:29:26.160 and walk for 30 minutes, in response to which I thought, he does not live where I live.

01:29:31.140 You've got to be a Californian, right?

01:29:33.100 Or you're Arizona or Southwest.

01:29:34.660 I'm in Miami, so-

01:29:36.560 Yeah, okay.

01:29:37.180 Because nobody in the Northeast or the Midwest talks like this.

01:29:40.140 We all know that's an impossibility. 0.69

01:29:42.480 Only the insane people are doing that.

01:29:44.280 It's dangerous.

01:29:45.340 It's dark.

01:29:46.040 It's highly unpleasant.

01:29:47.020 And there really is no sun at that hour.

01:29:49.120 It's highly unpleasant.

01:29:49.720 Anyway, yeah, it's like there's nothing good about it.

01:29:52.180 So for those of us who are in the Four Seasons areas of the country, how do we get our vitamin

01:29:58.080 D?

01:29:59.000 It's not going to happen at six in the morning where there is no sun and it's like five

01:30:02.440 degrees out, but I accept that it's important.

01:30:05.400 And so A, can you get it done in 30 minutes in a cold weather environment, considering that

01:30:10.960 you have to wear like a lot of clothes to be out there?

01:30:13.600 And B, does it matter what time of day you do it?

01:30:15.900 So I would be supplementing with, in one of those colder climates with 5,000 IUs of vitamin

01:30:22.420 D3.

01:30:23.060 It's called colocalciferol, vitamin D3, and make sure that it contains something called

01:30:27.920 K2.

01:30:28.660 Because vitamin D3 is such a magic nutrient in the human body.

01:30:31.940 It acts like a hormone sometimes.

01:30:33.520 It acts like a vitamin sometimes.

01:30:35.300 It's a calcium transport molecule.

01:30:37.460 And if you want the calcium to deposit into the bone and not into the arterial wall, you

01:30:42.180 add vitamin K2.

01:30:43.140 So most good manufacturers, you can tell a really good vitamin D3 by the fact that it

01:30:48.560 is compounded with something called K2.

01:30:50.720 That is a really good manufacturer.

01:30:52.400 You want to take 5,000 IUs of vitamin D3 daily, very safe, to raise your vitamin D3 level.

01:30:58.340 There is correlated risks, even causal risks, between low vitamin D3 and increased incidence

01:31:03.280 of breast cancer in women.

01:31:04.780 There are plenty of clinical trials on this.

01:31:06.800 So it's one of the easiest things to supplement with, and it's one of the most game-changing

01:31:10.580 nutrients you can put in the human body.

01:31:12.100 You know, I got asked on a podcast the other day, what is the single most important nutrient

01:31:16.280 in the human body?

01:31:17.300 And it's really hard to pinpoint one.

01:31:19.320 But if you think about the fact that vitamin D3 is the only nutrient that human beings make

01:31:24.500 on our own, it's the only vitamin we make on our own.

01:31:26.880 So if I was to test your blood right now, or the blood of any of your listeners, there'd

01:31:30.360 be hundreds of vitamins in their bloodstream.

01:31:32.220 You're only capable of making one.

01:31:34.280 So when God made us, he made us with the ability to make a single vitamin.

01:31:37.720 So how important do you think that is to human function?

01:31:40.800 So we make it from sunlight and cholesterol.

01:31:43.100 You don't need to eat.

01:31:43.840 You don't need to drink.

01:31:44.620 You don't need to supplement.

01:31:45.700 If you expose your skin to sunlight and have cholesterol in your bloodstream, your body

01:31:49.360 will make vitamin D3.

01:31:50.840 What's really fascinating about it is about 85% of the world is clinically deficient in

01:31:56.020 vitamin D3.

01:31:57.000 And it's very easy to supplement with.

01:31:59.260 Wow.

01:32:00.380 I'm thinking about my friends in Scandinavia who, right, this time of year have like three

01:32:03.840 hours of sunlight and are desperately in need of this.

01:32:07.620 And I think if memory serves, they told me when I was over there, the government will

01:32:10.840 provide that vitamin for you free of charge.

01:32:13.920 There's an indication of how important it is, right?

01:32:16.280 Because they know that's going to keep people out of the healthcare system.

01:32:18.640 We've developed all kinds of fallacies around this.

01:32:21.040 Have you ever heard of going out and catching a cold in the winter?

01:32:24.080 Yeah, right.

01:32:24.580 That's a complete fallacy.

01:32:25.760 My mom used to say to me all the time, don't go outside without a jacket, you'll catch a cold.

01:32:29.240 There's no such thing as catching a cold.

01:32:31.180 The reason why people get sick more often in cold weather is because when it's cold,

01:32:35.660 we layer up.

01:32:36.620 And when we layer up, we get less sun.

01:32:38.840 When we get less sun, our vitamin D3 drops.

01:32:41.560 And when our vitamin D3 drops, our immune system is compromised.

01:32:44.980 So our immune system is compromised by the cold weather.

01:32:48.380 It is actually less risky to go outside during cold weather than it is to go outside in Miami

01:32:52.960 because there's a lot more pathogens at 85 degrees than there are at 15 degrees.

01:32:57.480 You know, there's not a lot of bacteria lying around on your frozen car window, but there's

01:33:02.420 a lot of bacteria lying on handrails.

01:33:04.020 Well, can you do, like if you live in a cold environment, like let's say you go skiing,

01:33:07.340 you know, these days you're covered head to toe while you ski.

01:33:09.420 There's not a single inch of skin that shows.

01:33:11.800 But then let's say you sit outside for lunch because it's warm enough that you can do that.

01:33:16.620 Can you sit there in the sun for half an hour, just your face showing, get the vitamin

01:33:19.860 D you need?

01:33:21.160 Yeah, your face and your hands, sometimes your arms.

01:33:23.020 I mean, you know, some of these ski resorts, if there's not a lot of wind blowing and you're

01:33:27.120 at high altitude, the UV index is high.

01:33:29.220 You can actually just take your jacket off and expose your arms and your skin to sunlight

01:33:33.060 for a few minutes, maybe 15, 18 minutes.

01:33:35.280 That's enough to start generating some vitamin D3.

01:33:37.800 But in those cases, just supplement with vitamin D3.

01:33:40.300 Supplement with cold calcium for all.

01:33:41.540 Okay, there's no downside.

01:33:42.720 All right, let's talk about exercise because that, you know, tougher for some than for others.

01:33:48.940 What, like, what's the core?

01:33:50.820 What's the basics?

01:33:51.620 What do we need to do?

01:33:52.360 So the core is this.

01:33:52.940 Look, I think that the most overlooked exercise in all of humanity is walking.

01:33:57.340 You know, walking is specifically designed to move our lymphatic system.

01:34:00.940 And the reason why exercise is so tied to a reduction in all-cause mortality is that it's

01:34:06.260 not just about mobility.

01:34:07.600 It's about detoxification.

01:34:09.380 So we have a lymphatic system in our body.

01:34:11.380 You know, our lymph nodes that swell when we get a sore throat.

01:34:13.840 Well, these are all throughout our body.

01:34:15.280 And it's the waste elimination side of our system.

01:34:19.260 And there's no pressure in this system.

01:34:21.320 The heart is not pumping lymphatic fluid.

01:34:23.540 What circulates lymphatic fluid is muscular contraction.

01:34:26.720 And walking is specifically designed to move lymphatic fluid.

01:34:30.760 So if you looked at Blue Zone, for example, why were the two non-negotiables, sense of community

01:34:35.780 and purpose and mobility into later in life?

01:34:38.780 Because those people were regularly detoxifying themselves.

01:34:42.700 So I say walking is good.

01:34:45.880 Walking outside is better.

01:34:47.760 Walking outside with a weighted vest is best.

01:34:50.540 So if you only have 20 minutes or 30 minutes in the morning and you can walk on a treadmill,

01:34:54.960 that's great.

01:34:55.800 If you can actually get outside, that's even better.

01:34:58.600 And if you can get outside and zip on a weighted vest, I use one called an ion vest, and you

01:35:03.780 can zip on a weighted vest, you will compress the amount of time and you'll get more for less.

01:35:08.820 What does the weighted vest do?

01:35:11.060 So the weighted vest adds weight to the body and it usually distributes it the same way

01:35:15.120 that you would gain weight.

01:35:16.280 But what it does is it puts more strain on your muscles.

01:35:18.720 It increases your heart rate and improves your metabolism.

01:35:21.480 The compression helps with your circulation.

01:35:23.800 So in that same 20 or 30-minute period, you're getting about 40% to 50% more out of that same

01:35:29.900 effort than you would if you weren't walking without weight.

01:35:32.480 When you tell the body that you're gaining weight, it elevates your metabolism to peel

01:35:37.360 that weight off.

01:35:38.400 So people that are concerned about weight loss, if you start exercising with a weighted vest,

01:35:42.640 you'll get a whole lot more out of that timeframe of exercise than if you did it non-weighted.

01:35:47.240 It's probably good for your old lady bones too, right? 0.92

01:35:49.860 Like for women who are worried about osteoporosis. 0.73

01:35:51.080 Oh, it's great for your bones.

01:35:52.660 Yeah.

01:35:52.860 Can we talk about osteoporosis for a minute?

01:35:54.800 Yeah.

01:35:55.120 Because so many people think that osteoporosis is related to deficiency in calcium.

01:35:58.840 And that's just not true.

01:36:00.360 You know, most people think that our bones are calcium.

01:36:02.420 That's also not true.

01:36:03.680 Our bones are calcium combined with something called phosphorus.

01:36:07.460 These two form something called hydroxyapatite.

01:36:10.580 So our bones are hydroxyapatite.

01:36:13.040 In order for calcium and phosphorus to bind and form hydroxyapatite, you need 12 minerals.

01:36:19.940 And if you're missing any one of these 12 minerals, your bones don't harden.

01:36:23.860 And this is why if you go to assisted care living facilities all over the world, you'll find

01:36:27.700 elderly men and women that have osteopenia or osteoporosis, and they've been on calcium

01:36:32.180 supplements for 20 years.

01:36:33.820 Calcium is not the answer.

01:36:35.440 Minerals are the answer.

01:36:36.980 You know, every morning that I wake up, I take a mineral salt.

01:36:39.680 It's a cheap mineral salt.

01:36:40.820 You can use any mineral salt you want.

01:36:42.400 I use one called Baja Gold.

01:36:44.120 And I add this mineral salt to my drinking water because it has all 91 trace minerals.

01:36:48.840 So in the morning, if you hydrate, you add a mineral salt.

01:36:51.560 You put like a teaspoon in there?

01:36:52.160 I put about a half a teaspoon of this Baja Gold mineral salt.

01:36:56.780 And what will happen is that only 75% of that crystal is sodium.

01:37:00.220 The rest of it is all minerals like molybdenum, manganese, boron, zinc, copper, iodine, all

01:37:05.400 of these minerals that come from, should come from our soil, but unfortunately our soil is

01:37:10.000 depleted.

01:37:10.720 So you add a mineral salt to your drinking water.

01:37:12.660 I also add a hydrogen tablet and an amino acid.

01:37:16.000 And then you just whack that back.

01:37:17.480 So you hydrate and mineralize first thing in the morning.

01:37:20.720 And then if you apply a load, your bones will strengthen.

01:37:24.180 Calcium and phosphorus will form hydroxyapatite and you'll strengthen your bones.

01:37:28.360 If you just take calcium supplements, very likely that calcium will end up in the arterial

01:37:33.400 wall, not in your bones.

01:37:35.300 And then if you exercise and add a load, this is what calls the bone to want to harden, to

01:37:40.800 ossify.

01:37:41.740 And so weighted exercise is one of the best things that you can do to extend your health

01:37:46.660 span and extend your lifespan.

01:37:48.540 No, it makes sense too.

01:37:49.240 Because if you think about these blue zone communities, like in Japan, they're not going 1.00

01:37:52.900 on the Stairmaster or the treadmill.

01:37:56.020 They're walking.

01:37:57.080 They're gardening.

01:37:57.800 They're fishing.

01:37:58.100 They're not counting calories.

01:37:58.960 They don't know what a macro is.

01:38:00.880 You know, they're not weighing their food.

01:38:02.620 They're not worrying about whether they're carnivore or paleo or vegan or vegetarian.

01:38:06.300 Same thing in Italy.

01:38:07.660 There are no gyms in Italy.

01:38:09.240 Good luck finding a gym.

01:38:10.440 They don't exist.

01:38:11.280 That's not how they live.

01:38:12.020 In fact, in Sardinia, where they had hypercentenarianism, the life expectancy was directly related to

01:38:19.060 the grade of the slope they walked up.

01:38:21.400 So you've got elderly men and women walking up 20-degree slopes, 10 blocks to go to church,

01:38:25.860 four blocks over to the market, and six blocks back home on the regular.

01:38:30.120 There aren't elevators.

01:38:31.180 By the way, there aren't assisted care living facilities in these zones.

01:38:34.300 Assisted care living is mom and dad move back in with the kids until the day that they

01:38:37.900 die.

01:38:38.200 And why is that so important?

01:38:39.880 Because community, connection, and sense of purpose truly feed our cellular biology.

01:38:46.780 And we are one of the most disconnected societies in modern history.

01:38:51.080 We think that connection comes through social media or our digital media, and it doesn't.

01:38:55.840 Connection comes from true connection with other human beings.

01:38:58.600 In fact, there's something called broken heart syndrome.

01:39:00.740 We've all experienced this in our families, either a relative or grandparent that's been

01:39:05.440 married 40, 50 years, maybe 60 years.

01:39:08.100 When one spouse passes, how quickly does the other spouse go?

01:39:12.180 And nothing's happened to them, but this is the first time that they've been put in

01:39:16.160 isolation.

01:39:17.060 We knew in the mortality space that if you wanted to cut a human being's life expectancy

01:39:21.640 in half, and I mean in half, at any age, you put them in isolation.

01:39:26.120 And so when you've been married for 30 or 40 or 50 years and a spouse passes away, it's

01:39:30.720 the immediate isolation that causes the detrimental effect.

01:39:34.500 And we are, as a society, becoming increasingly more isolated because connection doesn't come

01:39:39.880 through social media.

01:39:41.080 It doesn't come through our digital devices.

01:39:43.100 It comes from real community and connection with other human beings.

01:39:46.680 This is why I preach about faith being medicine.

01:39:50.800 Community is medicine.

01:39:52.360 Connection is medicine.

01:39:54.020 So prayer actually has a medicinal benefit.

01:39:57.320 So does community, family, connection.

01:39:59.260 And as we get more disconnected, our cellular biology bathes in a toxic soup of inflammation.

01:40:05.840 And so, you know, by getting back to the basics, this is where we really can extend life.

01:40:11.600 I love all of this.

01:40:13.060 I have to ask you a quick question.

01:40:14.520 We only have two minutes left.

01:40:15.720 Can we eat bread or can't we?

01:40:19.060 I prefer sourdough bread.

01:40:20.660 Here's the thing about bread.

01:40:21.560 So really quick.

01:40:22.320 So tell me the trick.

01:40:23.540 Can I have like a slice of sourdough bread here and there?

01:40:26.060 Yes.

01:40:26.420 Oh, sourdough, all you want with all the butter you want, by the way.

01:40:30.580 We need to stop blaming the butter for what the bread did.

01:40:34.420 Great.

01:40:35.200 Just a fortified or enriched bread.

01:40:37.340 No.

01:40:38.120 Sourdough, absolutely yes.

01:40:40.680 That's great news as a best thing I heard the whole hour.

01:40:42.340 That was probably worth the whole show right there.

01:40:43.720 Can we just not end this but call it TB Continued because there's so much more.

01:40:49.860 You're such a wealth of information.

01:40:51.560 This is why everybody loves you.

01:40:52.800 This is why everybody said, when is Gary coming on?

01:40:55.560 Thank you.

01:40:55.980 I'd love to be back on.

01:40:57.100 I'd love to, you know, I'd love to cover any of these topics.

01:41:00.140 Awesome.

01:41:00.680 This is so helpful.

01:41:01.600 And is there a book?

01:41:02.520 Do you have a book?

01:41:03.540 Is this written down or we just go to your website, The Ultimate Human?

01:41:06.860 I did write a book.

01:41:08.520 It'll be published in the first quarter of next year on genetic methylation, by the way.

01:41:12.580 Good.

01:41:12.840 But you can go to theultimatehuman.com.

01:41:15.440 I have a VIP group there where I do private Q&As.

01:41:17.960 You can ask me anything.

01:41:19.040 I have a Gary AI that you can download.

01:41:21.120 You can feed it labs.

01:41:22.160 You can feed it genetic testing.

01:41:23.620 You can ask it questions about supplements.

01:41:26.460 That's great.

01:41:27.540 Ask it questions about diet.

01:41:28.800 It'll write a diet plan for you if you want.

01:41:32.100 We are all doing all of that.

01:41:33.580 We're about to crash your website.

01:41:34.640 And please put us on your book tour when that book comes out next year.

01:41:38.380 We'd love to host you.

01:41:39.440 But let's not wait that long.

01:41:40.460 Gary Brecka, thank you.

01:41:41.800 Thank you so much for all of your expertise.

01:41:44.860 You're welcome, Megan.

01:41:45.820 Can't wait to be back on.

01:41:47.720 Ah, likewise.

01:41:48.840 Wow, that was so interesting.

01:41:50.680 There was so much good news in there, you guys.

01:41:52.640 Like high blood pressure, how many people are dealing with that?

01:41:55.240 And the thing about the calcium, I'm taking calcium.

01:41:57.760 I didn't know that.

01:41:58.440 I definitely don't want it going to my arteries.

01:42:00.860 But all of us have like more traditional doctors, right?

01:42:03.520 So nobody thinks about this kind of thing.

01:42:05.780 I'm ready to reevaluate everything.

01:42:08.120 I'll see you over on TheUltimateHuman.com.

01:42:10.780 Thank you guys for tuning in today.

01:42:12.640 Tomorrow we've got our friends from Real Clear Politics and special appearance by Doug Brunt.

01:42:17.380 We'll see you then.

01:42:20.900 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

01:42:22.860 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - December 10, 2025

Hollywood Secrets, GOP Push to Get Crockett to Run, and Keys to Longevity, with Andrew Klavan and Gary Brecka ｜ Ep. 1210

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