The Megyn Kelly Show - Hong's SHOCK Loss in Wisconsin, Minnesota in Play with Tafoya, and WNBA Coach WHINES, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1378

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00:00:55 welcome to the megan kelly show live on sirius xm channel 111 every weekday at noon east

00:01:03 hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show the story i want to start

00:01:13 with debbie murphy says we can't she she says we can't steve krakauer and debbie murphy

00:01:19 he's my executive producer she ep's news they say we have to start with the election results

00:01:24 So I guess I will, because I love my team. My team generally knows what's best.

00:01:30 But I just want you to know I have a different favorite story, and it's coming up right after we get through this.

00:01:38 We should tell you the actual news. There hasn't been that much news lately.

00:01:42 Today there is some news. The electoral results are in, and the Democrat Party's a little afraid to go too full socialist.

00:01:52 They expressed some consternation about going hardcore socialist in a couple of races, which was disappointing for Republicans who thought the truly nutcase candidates could be more easily defeated like that weird lady in Wisconsin who wanted to be governor and get rid of Thanksgiving.

00:02:11 Remember?

00:02:12 Oh, by the way, as I was coming to air,

00:02:14 remember her name is Francesca Hong.

00:02:15 She was talking about how her son,

00:02:19 I guess she's Korean and the son is Korean and half white.

00:02:23 And she was talking about how that son of hers, 0.56

00:02:26 her 10-year-old has allowed her to have a proximity to whiteness.

00:02:31 And, you know, I guess she's just been shocked 0.60

00:02:33 by the privilege associated with it.

00:02:34 She brought her son with her to vote yesterday.

00:02:37 He looks totally Korean.

00:02:38 He doesn't look white.

00:02:40 at all. So I don't know what she's talking about. I'm not sure. I'm not sure she did have the

00:02:47 proximity to whiteness experience among her many, many other problems. This woman's such a mess. 1.00

00:02:55 She was pulling allegedly 22, 30 points ahead. No, she lost. It was close, but she lost. She 1.00

00:03:03 lost to a more moderate guy, supposedly. But I mean, everyone's more moderate than this nutcase 0.97

00:03:08 Hong. Yes, she was taken down by the establishment backed Milwaukee County Executive David Crawley. 1.00

00:03:16 It was a stunning upset because everybody had her way up, including the betting markets,

00:03:20 up at least 18 points in the final five public polls. Now, some of the left are trying to blame

00:03:26 her loss on Bernie Sanders and AOC because they didn't endorse Hong. We're seeing some say,

00:03:31 what the hell is she tweeting about her stupid fertility treatments instead of endorsing someone 1.00

00:03:38 from the DSA whose politics are aligned with AOCs. They certainly have been in the same way 1.00

00:03:45 that these two supported Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan in the Democrat primary there for

00:03:50 Senate. But why didn't they? They didn't. She was a bridge too far. Now they're pissed at those two.

00:03:56 But I mean, can we really say it was AOC's fault? I think you come out against Thanksgiving.

00:04:03 is kind of over between you and the American people.

00:04:07 She also had problems with Christmas.

00:04:08 Who wants to elect such a curmudgeon, 0.96

00:04:12 stick-in-the-mud, killjoy, buzzkill to hire office? 0.93

00:04:18 Wisconsin is not California.

00:04:21 It's still a swing state.

00:04:23 So I just think the shock was that she was pulling ahead

00:04:27 for so long.

00:04:28 The shock is not that she lost.

00:04:31 And now this guy Crowley will face the Trump back candidate, Tom Tiffany, in November in the general.

00:04:37 His campaign saying, oh, there's not a dime's bit of difference between the two of them.

00:04:41 I mean, I see it's a good point.

00:04:43 There is a dime's worth, maybe not a quarter's worth.

00:04:47 But here to react to this and a lot more is Emily Jashinsky. 0.91

00:04:50 She's a Wisconsin native, people.

00:04:52 More proof that Wisconsin's not California. 0.99

00:04:55 California would never produce an Emily Jashinsky.

00:04:58 She's also a host of After Party on the MK Media Podcast Network.

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00:06:15 Emily, welcome back. So what was it? This Hong was up double digits. Again,

00:06:21 one of those polls had her up like 30 points. But then that Thanksgiving clip hit, which was

00:06:26 no bueno for her. I mean, everyone loves Thanksgiving. Only a true nutcase doesn't

00:06:31 like Thanksgiving. And then she injected more Thanksgiving into the narrative the day. Was it 0.97

00:06:37 yesterday, the day of the actual vote? Or yeah, it was the day of the actual vote. She started

00:06:42 talking about it again, trying to dial it back. But still, don't talk about Thanksgiving when

00:06:48 everybody's looking at you and knowing you had to talk about it because you said you wanted it

00:06:52 to be canceled. Here's what she said yesterday on election day. Is there any information about you

00:06:57 that you don't think the media has picked up on over the course of this campaign thus far?

00:07:03 Is there any information about yourself, your background that you think voters are

00:07:09 potentially missing out on? I've cooked many great Thanksgiving dinner.

00:07:18 And I'm not going to cancel things.

00:07:23 I wanted to be a sports journalist.

00:07:26 I was going to go to J school, but my path took me on a journey to become a chef and open my own restaurant.

00:07:35 And as an employer, I learned how important it is to make sure that we're respecting, honoring all workers.

00:07:42 And that as a small business owner, things are really rigged against our small businesses.

00:07:48 And I want to make sure that there's relief for small businesses, that we enshrine workers' rights, and that for many of my fellow single moms out there, just remember how powerful you are.

00:08:02 And I love turkey. I love mashed potatoes. I make a little gravy boat in the middle.

00:08:10 So what do you make of it?

00:08:12 She hates Valentine's Day, too. Valentine's Day, Christmas, these are capitalist constructs.

00:08:17 Yep. She had a Valentine's Day tweet, one that didn't get enough attention because I think the Daily Wire reported on it yesterday.

00:08:23 She had a, I'm sorry to say this, a menstruation themed dinner.

00:08:26 She hosted this back in like 2019 and was tweeting about it.

00:08:30 And this is part of what people don't understand, I think, about Wisconsin politics is how large Madison looms in Wisconsin politics.

00:08:36 And she just screams Madison.

00:08:38 Everybody in Wisconsin, whether they're a Democrat or Republican, has like a neighbor or a niece who like went to UW-Madison and came back after their first semester talking about hosting menstruation-themed dinners and canceling Thanksgiving.

00:08:53 And so it's just—

00:08:54 What is a menstruation-themed dinner? 0.97

00:08:56 What happens at one of these? 1.00

00:08:58 I could tell you—

00:08:59 Is there Bloody Marys?

00:09:00 No, Megan! 0.88

00:09:02 No, there was Korean blood sausage, apparently.

00:09:05 I'm so sorry to bring that information to the viewers.

00:09:08 When they sit around and talk about their periods?

00:09:10 I'd rather not think about it.

00:09:12 I guess I brought it up.

00:09:14 Emily, why are we having cocktails when we get together,

00:09:16 when we could be having this kind of fun?

00:09:17 Oh, my gosh.

00:09:19 Please don't make me do that.

00:09:22 That's going to be our next segment.

00:09:24 You got a makeover, and now we're going to dive deep

00:09:28 on menstruation together.

00:09:30 But see, this is the thing.

00:09:31 Wow.

00:09:31 But it just screams.

00:09:33 To Wisconsin people, it screams Madison.

00:09:35 It screams out of touch.

00:09:37 And whether it was an electability issue for Democratic voters who, as these posts started

00:09:43 coming up, she was going on CNN, totally unnecessary, going on CNN, Fox News to talk

00:09:48 about these things. You don't have to do that if you're running in a Democratic primary for

00:09:51 Wisconsin governor. And so is it possible that just made Democratic voters in the last week

00:09:57 of the campaign as she's doing all this national media actually start to shift? I mean, Crowley's

00:10:01 own campaign had her up 18 points within the last couple of weeks. So it wasn't just like

00:10:08 even his own internals were showing that. So she got trounced by Crowley in a lot of rural counties.

00:10:14 She didn't put up the numbers that she needed to put up in Dane County, where Madison is.

00:10:18 Milwaukee County was very close. Crowley's a Milwaukee County executive. And so I think part

00:10:23 of the problem is if you have a populist message, like this was the Zoran Mamdani revolution,

00:10:27 he's out there smiling constantly deflecting any conversation about culture war issues

00:10:33 he looks cheerful and that was not how francesca hong came across at all she came across as weird

00:10:41 and dour yeah oh yeah bitter uh yeah okay so the team sent me the the tweet uh i miss working in

00:10:50 a restaurant every day except on valentine's day she posted on valentine's day 2022 as if

00:10:56 If we weren't invisible enough to those who don't recognize the emotional and physical labor of service work, the worst of humanity comes out from folks celebrating one another on a day on another day.

00:11:10 Capitalism tells you how to show love.

00:11:12 It's true.

00:11:13 I don't recognize the emotional and physical labor of service work when I go out for Valentine's Day.

00:11:19 I will include a tip if the service is good.

00:11:21 Other than that, I'm not thinking about that person at all.

00:11:24 She's right.

00:11:24 I I'm not thinking about the person in the kitchen. I'm barely thinking about my waiter

00:11:29 as it should be. I don't need to go out and be thinking about the emotional and physical labor

00:11:35 of service workers when I'm out there. All I need to do is be polite to them and tip them if the

00:11:41 service is good. What kind of weird world is this? This is the world of like the cultural left and

00:11:46 everything has to be analyzed through this particular lens. And it's not relatable to

00:11:52 average Americans. And so while her data center messaging might be relatable to average Democrats

00:11:58 in the state of Wisconsin, and actually average voters in the state of Wisconsin, I mean,

00:12:01 she came very close and spent basically zero money on TV, like several hundred thousand dollars on

00:12:07 TV, and came very close to winning this election, even with all of those tweets. So it's not a total

00:12:13 loss for the DSA. I mean, it's definitely a setback because she's a real dyed-in-the-wool

00:12:19 DSA person like Mom Donnie, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but she came very close in a 0.91

00:12:24 race that she really had no business coming that close in. Either way, part of the problem is just

00:12:29 that is so, so profoundly unrelatable that even if people are mad about data centers and David

00:12:35 Crowley seems much more friendly to the data centers, they can't take you seriously. It's like

00:12:40 you and I have talked about this before. It's like why the trans issue is a litmus test. Even if it's 0.53

00:12:45 not the thing people are voting on. If they believe you're lying to them about thinking

00:12:49 boys can become girls and that they should be playing in women's sports, it makes your data

00:12:53 data center message, any populist taxation message, all of that way harder to sell. 0.71

00:12:59 And all these DSA are pro transing the children. I mean, it's pretty egregious. 0.99

00:13:03 In case I forget to mention it, a shout out, huge shout out to the Trump administration today,

00:13:08 which through Dr. Oz has now said that Medicaid services will no longer be paying

00:13:14 for any trans surgeries or trans procedures or trans meds for children in the United States. 0.88

00:13:21 It's a massive, massive victory. And as I also said, if there's a hospital that's

00:13:26 trying to perform these services, they're not going to get the Medicaid funding for it. So

00:13:32 this is like huge. And it's kind of what we need to be doing to crack down on illegals. Like 1.00

00:13:38 we need sweeping. We're doing E-Verify. You just can't get a job at a corporation unless

00:13:44 you are an actual citizen who can prove your citizenship, this is basically doing that to 0.99

00:13:49 trans procedures through Medicaid, and it's a great, great move. But you're right. The lunacy

00:13:55 is too much to swallow. Here's one on Halloween. I don't allow myself to work on Halloween weekend

00:14:01 or the day of, she wrote in 2019. I would actually ask every single person in costume to leave.

00:14:07 She sounds like a real joy. You, you in the Disney princess outfit, you're out.

00:14:14 Why aren't you worried about my emotional and physical well-being?

00:14:17 Where why?

00:14:18 Where's the question about the toll your presence here is taking on me?

00:14:22 I'm sure she would have handled the stress of the gubernatorial job just fine.

00:14:28 Speaking of the Wisconsin governor's race, and now they're up against this guy, Tiffany, who's on the Republican side. 0.60

00:14:35 Our old pal, Haley Stevens, who's been popping up on CNN now, the Miss the Michigander. 0.61

00:14:42 And I'm just going to talk to the Michigander is the way they need to be talked to.

00:14:47 She's not gone. 1.00

00:14:48 She's gone, but not forgotten from the race. 0.95

00:14:49 And she's not forgotten over on CNN, where now she's making regular appearances. 0.84

00:14:53 And here she is in SOT 12B.

00:14:55 Tiffany that he's running against.

00:14:57 I serve with him in the house and he's a nice guy, but he is kind of narrow.

00:15:03 all right and he's deeply conservative and his big priority is wolves he wants to hunt wolves

00:15:08 i'm not kidding he's talked to me about it many times on the house floor this is cool stuff it's

00:15:14 a good time to be a democrat can i just follow up on the wolves thing um what you said he wants

00:15:20 to hunt wolves like are you saying he's distracted by this priority or what's the what's what's going

00:15:24 on there talks about pamela i swear to you it is all this man talks about i listen i have been to

00:15:31 wisconsin many times you know i did a bunch of business there i mean he's just obsessed with

00:15:36 changing the gun laws or the hunting laws to hunt wolves it's all he talks about

00:15:42 that's it emily it's all he talks about fingers crossed cnn hires her i want that to happen so

00:15:50 badly because she will do this every single day it'll be such a gift to us by the way

00:15:54 wolves are a big deal in northern wisconsin tom tiffany was a dairy farmer haley stephen 1.00

00:16:01 sounds like she's trying to talk like a dairy farmer. You'll notice Tom Tiffany doesn't talk 1.00

00:16:06 like that, even though he's a real dairy farmer. But seriously, I don't know that he's talking

00:16:12 about wolves all the time. I've never heard him talk about wolves, but he should be talking about

00:16:15 wolves because he represents northern Wisconsin, where it's a big threat to people with animals

00:16:20 and the like. So I loved where she was going with that. She was cooking.

00:16:25 She really is like a caricature, you know, she's not like a real person. 0.65

00:16:30 She seems to me like a caricature, an SNL, truly.

00:16:33 I know we've done the Chris Farley bit, but she does seem like an SNL skit of an East

00:16:38 Coast version, a person's version of what a Midwesterner is like. 0.89

00:16:43 But there she is.

00:16:44 She's real.

00:16:44 It's come to life and it's there for us to behold on CNN.

00:16:48 All right.

00:16:49 So if you were conspiratorially minded, you might be asking yourself how all the polls

00:16:56 got it so wrong in Wisconsin about this nutcase leading the race for governor, and then suddenly

00:17:03 it all fell apart on the night of the vote, which, you know, she would have been a much 0.51

00:17:07 better candidate for Tom Tiffany to run against.

00:17:09 It's true. 0.99

00:17:10 She's I mean, she's crazy. 0.94

00:17:12 So the other guy is a normal lefty and Republicans do know how to defeat them. 0.94

00:17:16 But she's really out there. 0.99

00:17:19 and miserable. And I think would have been a much easier race for this Tiffany guy,

00:17:23 the Republican. So it does make you wonder what happened between the polling and the vote.

00:17:31 And the following is not going to help people who think maybe there was some tomfoolery

00:17:38 by the Democrat party to make sure their preferred candidate won because the USB sticks

00:17:47 with the voting data disappeared as the vote went on.

00:17:52 And here's NBC's Steve Kornacki reacting to that news as it came down.

00:17:58 So five, I guess the exact thing, yes, is if five of the USB sticks were missing results

00:18:04 from the election, so then they have to they have to go try to re-grab them.

00:18:10 Yeah, and they're all the folks behind the scenes are talking about this as well.

00:18:15 also we can also look it's unfortunate the folks behind the scenes here you're saying yes

00:18:21 are are how do i ask this artfully um

00:18:29 he he was stunned the point is he was literally speechless because it's just so

00:18:37 bass-ackwards but also it could lead you to wonder whether it's legit i mean milwaukee this

00:18:44 happens with Milwaukee time and again. And so it was interesting to see people on the left late

00:18:49 last night, the DSA left reacting as this played out in a similar fashion to how you saw some people

00:18:57 in MAGA reacting as this has played out before. And when you blame them, I know it's crazy. It's

00:19:04 actually crazy that this is the way that we run our elections. And we're all just supposed to not

00:19:09 ask questions because if you ask question, you're a conspiracy theorist. Yes. And did you see Jen

00:19:14 Psaki was just on MSNBC or MSNOW yesterday, lamenting how things have changed from when the

00:19:22 Democrat Party used to decide who the candidates would be. You know, big D Democrats, I mean,

00:19:28 just ask Bernie Sanders, just ask Tulsi Gabbard. That's why she got excommunicated from the 0.81

00:19:33 Democrat Party, because she saw what they did to Bernie Sanders. Tulsi was a rising star. She came

00:19:38 on the show very early on and told us all about it. She was a rising star within the Democrat

00:19:42 party. They were like, oh, she's a minority and she's a woman and she's whatever. She checks a 1.00

00:19:47 couple of the minority boxes and they were drafting her, you know, just sort of come up the

00:19:51 ranks of Democrat power and had her at the DNC. And next thing she knew, they were rigging the 0.91

00:19:58 2016 nomination contest for Hillary to keep Bernie out. And she spoke up about it. She thought it was

00:20:03 wrong. Well, ever since that point, her name was mud. And then you had Hillary Clinton calling her 0.99

00:20:09 a Russian agent and all this bullshit that followed. But it was over what Jen Psaki is now 1.00

00:20:14 openly admitting that the Democrat Party used to, in her estimation, make sure it's going to be this 0.94

00:20:22 candidate and not that candidate because they would control candidate quality and chances in

00:20:27 these contested elections. And there's a real question about whether they are still doing that,

00:20:32 but just through other means, like getting a bunch of homeless people to suddenly vote for

00:20:38 the woman nobody was polling for in California in the L.A. mayoral race, for one example,

00:20:44 or possibly in Wisconsin to get the more allegedly moderate guy who has a better chance against 1.00

00:20:51 Tiffany across the finish line despite an 18 point deficit to the nutcase. 1.00

00:20:56 Right. There's a last minute push to get the sitting lieutenant governor Mandela Barnes,

00:20:59 who they felt was underperforming out of the race and consolidate around two candidates,

00:21:04 similar to what we saw in Michigan. Mallory McBurrow had a lot of momentum,

00:21:08 And it was basically a three-way race between Haley Stevens, Mallory McMorrow, and Abdul El-Sayed.

00:21:12 And as Sayed started to look like he was climbing in the polls, McMorrow drops out, doesn't endorse.

00:21:17 But clearly that allowed the vote to consolidate behind Haley Stevens, I'm sorry,

00:21:24 so that you could have a closer race and have a better chance at making sure that El-Sayed does not win that election.

00:21:31 because this is exactly what they did in 2020. As Bernie started surging, once again, like he did

00:21:37 in 2016, you have the consolidation behind Biden because Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out of

00:21:44 the race. And so Psaki's frustration boiling over to the point where she actually made that public

00:21:49 and plain is really interesting, because I think they do feel like they're losing their grip. And

00:21:54 this is how Republicans felt in 2016. They could do nothing. None of their chicanery was working

00:21:59 to stop Trump. And they finally just had to give into it after trying to take him down at the 0.98

00:22:05 convention with this ham-fisted plot that still hasn't been made into the film that it should

00:22:09 have been, the comedy, I should say, the comedy film that it should have been made into. It didn't

00:22:13 work. And Democrats are experiencing that delayed because they had a much more centralized power

00:22:18 structure with superdelegates and the like at the DNC. Okay, let's move from Wisconsin over to

00:22:25 Minnesota. And, uh, in Minnesota, we have actually a very interesting contest now at the Senate

00:22:33 level. Um, it's like Amy Klobuchar is the sitting democratic Senator who's now trying to become

00:22:40 the governor because Tim Walz said he won't run for a third term because of all the Somali fraud

00:22:46 scandal. Okay. It's so confusing, but so he's not going to be governor anymore. So now Klobuchar 0.81

00:22:51 views this as a as a promotion because she would be an executive, the chief executive

00:22:55 of the state, as opposed to just one of two U.S. senators and vying for the seat of U.S. senator 0.99

00:23:01 will be the lieutenant governor, Penny Peggy Flanagan versus Michelle Tafoya, former sports 0.99

00:23:11 broadcaster who came on this show right after she left the sidelines. And I said to her then and

00:23:19 there, I certainly hope you're going to be running for office because she's just a badass. She's 1.00

00:23:23 smart. She's serious. She's sober. And she's a household name. And especially in Minnesota.

00:23:30 So she's gotten the Republican nomination and she's going to be squaring off against another 1.00

00:23:36 nutcase. Peggy Flanagan is seriously bizarre. She would want me to tell you she's indigenous. 1.00

00:23:46 and this is peggy flanagan in march of 2023 in a soundbite our viewers may remember about

00:23:53 trans and children sought eight because let's be clear this is life affirming and life saving

00:24:03 health care when our children tell us who they are it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to

00:24:14 believe them that's what it means to be a good parent oh my god i mean it's truly radical stuff

00:24:29 while she's wearing that protect trans children t-shirt with a knife like a cutting knife a blade

00:24:35 weapon on it okay peggy what are you trying to say i mean she like this this is actually very

00:24:41 interesting, given how AOC, who was being asked to defend Francesca Hong, made her comment about

00:24:46 how woke one was crazy. This is the type of thing that if AOC really believes, quote, woke one was

00:24:51 crazy, they would be against, right? If that's the reason they didn't want to endorse Francesca Hong,

00:24:57 Peggy Flanagan has leaned so hard into cultural left politics. Remember, because it was talked 0.99

00:25:04 about with Tim Walls, they were turning Minnesota into a sanctuary state for trans kids, which is

00:25:09 actually a really sinister plan and a really sinister policy. And so they were leaning. I mean, 0.63

00:25:16 this was something that they saw as in Minnesota, part of actually, it's interesting, because this

00:25:21 is what Francesca Hong was also kind of trying to prove that you can be cultural left and populist 0.99

00:25:26 left. And both will kind of lift you at the same time that you don't have to ditch cultural leftism

00:25:32 to be successful as a kind of in Minnesota, it's DFL, but as a populist Democrat. And I mean,

00:25:39 And Michelle Tafoya is going to put that to the test. It's structurally so hard for a Republican 0.93

00:25:43 to win in Minnesota. The time is more ripe than it has been in a long time in Minnesota for a

00:25:48 Republican to win. She's obviously, we had her on After Party right after she announced, 0.99

00:25:52 and she's obviously a good candidate because she's not hardcore in a way that'll turn off 1.00

00:25:59 some of the independent swing mom types in the Minneapolis suburbs who might be looking at Peggy 1.00

00:26:04 Flanagan in the dagger shirt and thinking, hell no, I can't get behind this woman. I'm not voting 1.00

00:26:11 for that. Like, it's going to be a real problem for them. Also, the Dem primary was over abolish

00:26:15 ICE. Like, that's what the Dem primary was basically coming down to. It was about, literally,

00:26:20 it was about Angie Craig supporting the Lakin-Riley Act. That's how she was distancing herself from

00:26:26 her moderate opponent. So in the general election, swing voters are really going to be up for grabs

00:26:31 for Michelle Tafoya. I think so, too. And they they underestimate her at their own peril because

00:26:37 she's extremely likable. She is a lifelong Minnesotan. She understands how they think and

00:26:42 what their values are. And she she has been making the pitch like I get it. This state has swung too

00:26:49 far to the radical left. And I I am not a Trump sycophant. She was out there. She didn't. She

00:26:56 kind of kept Trump at a distance. She didn't get the endorsement, I think, by design, you know,

00:26:59 intentionally and has said to the Minnesota voters, I'll stand up to Trump, which, you know,

00:27:06 Trump's core faithful may not like, but you have to understand she's got to play the long game here.

00:27:10 Like the Minnesota voters are not going to put somebody in office who's just a Trump rubber

00:27:14 stamp. You got to have somebody like Michelle Tafoya, who's like, I will be fiercely independent

00:27:19 looking out for you. That's the kind of Republican that could win in Minnesota. So it would be 0.99

00:27:24 genuinely exciting if she were to win. I'm I'm very much rooting for Michelle and really hope

00:27:29 they do the right thing there. Um, okay. So that's, I mean, overall, that's how things went

00:27:34 last night at the DSA is nutty. They continue to demonstrate their nuttiness. Um, the new tactic

00:27:40 is to tie El Sayed and everybody else to Hassan Piker, who's the most radical outspoken leftist

00:27:47 in America. I think it's fair to say at least one with a, with a platform, he's a true crazy 0.96

00:27:52 loon, like the stuff he's saying about how America deserved nine 11. And, uh, he wipes his ass with 1.00

00:27:57 the Constitution. I mean, we could be here all day, but we are starting as Republicans to play 0.99

00:28:02 the games that the Democrats play. Like, do you disavow? Disavow. Do it. Disavow. And so far,

00:28:09 like El Sayed, who campaigned with Hassan Piker, is saying, I'm not I'm not doing that. Like,

00:28:13 thanks, but no. But the heat is getting turned up so high around this Hassan Piker. It's kind 1.00

00:28:19 of interesting to me to see whether he'll be able to hold that line all the way up to election day,

00:28:25 because I don't know anything about Hassan Piker.

00:28:27 I've got to be honest. 0.60

00:28:28 I know he's Cenk Uyghur's nephew. 1.00

00:28:30 I know he says very crazy shit. 1.00

00:28:32 I know he kicked his dog on a live feed. 1.00

00:28:34 Allegedly buzzed the collar.

00:28:36 Zapping him. 0.72

00:28:37 He totally buzzed the dog.

00:28:38 I did watch that.

00:28:39 I completely believe he was shocking his dog

00:28:42 and just seems like a very unwell person to me.

00:28:45 I've got to be honest, but whatever.

00:28:46 What do I know?

00:28:49 But it is, I also don't love the game of like disavow.

00:28:54 It's just it's there's it's a turnoff to me when either side does it.

00:28:59 You know who also hates that?

00:29:00 I think increasingly as voters, they want to hear what you are going to do in office.

00:29:05 They are not interested in this.

00:29:07 And I get why politicians are tempted to do it and campaigns are tempted to do it.

00:29:12 But institutional trust is at record lows basically across the board in this country.

00:29:16 And so if you are acting like a gatekeeper, you are reminding people that they don't trust

00:29:21 the gatekeepers.

00:29:22 And so actually, I think it's a big turnoff for voters. I think it's now a major political mistake. I was at the, walking around the convention center at the 2024 Dem convention, and the young Dems flocking to Piker was crazy.

00:29:39 Like it was he was Justin Bieber at the convention, even as they were nominating Kamala Harris, someone who was like much more moderate and has been criticized really sharply by Hassan Piker.

00:29:50 That was years ago before he was as popular as he is right now.

00:29:54 So the disavowal thing, I think just it reeks of being like a politician as usual and a gatekeeper.

00:30:03 And that's lame to leftist behavior.

00:30:05 It's lame to people. 0.99

00:30:06 It's Francesca Hong behavior. 0.99

00:30:07 It is. It's like, OK, if Hassan Piker runs for office, he's going to get it both barrels.

00:30:13 You know, we're we'll go after him. We'll play every single soundbite. But like, I don't know.

00:30:19 Like Cenk Uygur was defending the association and whatever. I don't I don't know if I'm phrasing it right.

00:30:25 But he was on Piers Morgan the other day saying, well, why don't you ask some of these candidates why they associate with Benjamin Netanyahu, who, you know, millions of people believe has committed a genocide?

00:30:35 Why don't you ask that question? Why is it just this guy's incendiary comments from his microphone that are relevant? Like, you really could play this game forever, which is why I'm not interested. If Hassan Piker runs for office, he's in trouble.

00:30:48 And as a politician, people want to know what you think, right?

00:30:52 Like, do you think that America deserved 9-11?

00:30:55 If they haven't said that they think that or given anybody an indication to think that,

00:30:58 this kid's a Twitch streamer who's like entertaining people for clicks.

00:31:02 So if you have no reason to believe that they think that,

00:31:04 the game is convoluted and hard for voters to follow.

00:31:07 Especially if you're an older politician and you're looking to get younger people interested in you,

00:31:11 and then, you know, this is why you've associated with this guy

00:31:13 or you want him to be talking about you to his followers,

00:31:16 i can understand why you think it might make sense i think it's disgusting i think what he says and 0.95

00:31:21 he did say that shit about 9 11 and i but i don't believe him that he takes it back i think he meant 0.95

00:31:25 it um but whatever um it's it's going to be the democrats problem who associated with him okay 0.98

00:31:32 let's keep going um there is well my team would like you to see this soundbite from hassan piker

00:31:38 who tried to defend the thanksgiving lady as follows sought for guys the thanksgiving gate

00:31:44 is not as consequential as you think it is

00:31:46 please Thanksgiving gate does not

00:31:48 factor into the equation her 0.98

00:31:50 you know less than 1.00

00:31:52 less than fantastic debate

00:31:54 performance where there was not

00:31:56 a lot of antagonism no one was

00:31:58 attacking her she didn't like shine

00:32:00 in the election at a time when more and 0.91

00:32:02 more people are starting to pay close attention to the 0.53

00:32:04 races my mom made

00:32:06 me warm me some pasta 1.00

00:32:08 from the other night what a fucking 0.99

00:32:10 night this has been bro 0.98

00:32:11 So I don't have the fullest grasp of this.

00:32:15 I hate my big chunk. 0.99

00:32:16 There are some irregularities in the stupid reporting process. 1.00

00:32:23 So he's got a lot going on. 1.00

00:32:27 What's there to disavow?

00:32:31 Sure, that's just as controversial as he gets.

00:32:33 Not not.

00:32:35 We could be here all day for playing controversial soundbites from him.

00:32:37 But yeah, he's eating pasta from his mom.

00:32:39 So relatable, relatable, Emily.

00:32:40 although it's been a long time since my mom's been cooking my meals gotta be honest well i

00:32:45 saw on instagram that i'm cooking my own now and starting small starting small fires in my home

00:32:52 did you see i saw it on instagram i immediately uh sent it to my boyfriend and i was like at least

00:32:58 i don't do this can i tell you what happened it was it was a nightmare so i don't know if

00:33:04 the audience is familiar but um i posted on my instagram there it is oh my team had it at the

00:33:09 ready. I didn't even tell them to. Um, that's the fire department inside my home. Three of them in

00:33:16 all, there were five here and the big truck and then the little trucks too. And, um, it all started

00:33:23 because I tried to cook a chicken cutlet, a breaded chicken cutlet, like in Panko. And you

00:33:29 have to put it in, I put it in a cast iron frying pan with oil, not, not a ton of oil, but it did

00:33:35 start to smoke and I had, it's the problem is it was an, it's a relatively new stove and the

00:33:41 little, like the smoke, the fan thing, it's supposed to go on automatically and it didn't go on. And I

00:33:48 think it's because I turned it off. I think it was annoying me and I turned it off. So then the smoke

00:33:55 got out of control. I guess I didn't really pay attention and the smoke alarms went off and they

00:34:00 went off everywhere, which makes sense because if you actually have a fire, you want to let everybody

00:34:04 in the house know that there's a fire, but everywhere they were going off and loud and

00:34:08 like it was, and some of them speak and say, fire, fire, fire, which there wasn't. And so

00:34:15 I'm running around it, like trying to get the smoke out to opening up the windows and opening

00:34:18 up the doors. And, um, the dogs are going crazy because it's so piercingly loud just as a human

00:34:24 ear, nevermind to a dog ear. So I let him out on the side lawn, which Strudwick is not allowed to

00:34:30 do because he's so such a menace and the pool is there. And that dog cannot be near that pool

00:34:36 because he will not just go in the pool that I can handle, but he loves to rub himself in the

00:34:42 dirt and then run all around the hardscape and the furniture that we have out there, 0.99

00:34:46 which is the pain in the ass to clean. Anyway, I had to do it. The dogs are out. The fire 0.99

00:34:53 department came. Oh, I mean, if, if there had been like a five alarm fire, this fireman would

00:34:58 not have been dressed any differently. They had every piece of gear on Emily, every single piece

00:35:02 at the, and they, they got to the door. I opened up the door and they clearly saw there was no

00:35:06 fire and they go, did you try to cook? They had a feeling. Yes. I thought we're running around

00:35:14 trying to override the system. We can't try to turn off the electricity, which we did. Then you

00:35:20 turn back on the electricity. The alarm started up again. Finally, we got in touch with the alarm

00:35:24 guy who showed me how to turn it off. And it finally went off and they left. We took pictures.

00:35:31 They let me sit in the fire truck. That was fun. Like you're in kindergarten. Come on, Megan.

00:35:36 You can take a ride. They're like, do you want to sit in the fire truck? I'm like, kind of.

00:35:39 So they let me and then we they wanted some selfies. So I gave him selfies and I want a

00:35:43 selfie with them. So they gave me one. And then then I go outside. Strudwick is the disaster I

00:35:50 knew he would be. The whole lawn, it was torn up. There was dirt everywhere. He had gotten into some

00:35:56 old food that my kids had left out there. He was rolling in the dirt in the flower bed, right out

00:36:01 of, out of the pool, wet and rolling in the dirt and then running all over the furniture. I'm like,

00:36:06 get inside, get back inside. So I get them back inside. And then I finally turned back to the

00:36:11 chicken. I had nine chicken breasts. I was going to make these to get the whole family through the

00:36:15 weekend. You know, I was like, you can have it for dinner on the go, or you can have it for lunch

00:36:19 if you need something we eat so badly when we're at the beach so i whatever so nine chicken breasts

00:36:25 and i had cut them in half so i had 18 i had two that were cooked two and i come back in to start

00:36:35 to see the mess and see what they're now all covered in flies from my open windows and my

00:36:43 open doors which i don't have any screens why don't i have any screens emily so then i they

00:36:48 all had to go in the garbage. I threw them all out and I went out to dinner. My husband was out

00:36:55 with doing this weird sports Olympics things with his friends, but I went out with some friends who

00:37:00 were like, come here. And they gave me a nice cocktail. We had a delicious dinner, but I was

00:37:05 like, cooking is not for me. I mean, it's not for me. I thought for sure you would actually started

00:37:11 a fire. So in a way that story is actually vindicating and redeeming. You did not start a

00:37:17 fire. This is the alarm system's fault that you didn't do anything wrong. Maybe you should have

00:37:23 remembered to turn the fan on, but you didn't start a fire. You were fine. Yes. It all boils

00:37:28 down to the new stove that insists on like going off automatically. And the reason I turn it down

00:37:34 is because you will boil an egg, which makes no smoke. And it will suddenly go turn on to like

00:37:41 number five and it's loud. You're like, oh my God, what's happening? And that level was needed

00:37:46 while I was doing the chicken, but I had already turned it down. And I guess once you turn it down,

00:37:51 it stays down. I don't, I don't understand my new stove. Um, I don't, there are, there are limits to

00:37:58 the short list of gifts that God gave me and not one is present inside the culinary arts. It's very

00:38:06 sad. I've tried so many times. My audience knows my only regret on my whole kitchen snafu was that

00:38:12 my dear mother-in-law was not alive to enjoy this because my kitchen follies were among her

00:38:19 favorite thing in life. And I would have loved to have had a laugh with her over it. Anyway. Okay.

00:38:23 So that's a long digression. That's not actually what I wanted to talk to you about next. I don't

00:38:27 even remember how we got there. I wanted to talk to you. I don't either. Um, this is a different

00:38:31 kind of five alarm fire in Massachusetts. They've now passed an abortion law allowing abortion all 1.00

00:38:39 the way up to birth, all the way through the ninth month, the 40th week of pregnancy and the

00:38:46 signing ceremony with this Maura Healy, the Democrat governor there, looks like they are

00:38:52 signing a bill to give children a lifetime supply of chocolate. Do we have the video?

00:38:58 Can we watch this? It's deeply disturbing. Here, watch.

00:39:09 oh my god all these women are so grateful to her for the chance to kill their own unborn child

00:39:19 up to birth let me just say something i'm like i don't talk about abortion a lot in this show i

00:39:23 just it's such a deeply personal issue and like i just i i try to avoid it i just think it raises

00:39:29 too much emotions and my old school journalist inside of me is like that's not something i

00:39:33 should be opining on. But the ninth month, you've got to be kidding me. This is barbaric. And just

00:39:42 as a reminder, OK, just as a reminder, here is what Kamala Harris has had to say when she was

00:39:51 running for president about the notion that Democrats want abortion all the way up to the 0.89

00:39:58 ninth month. Let's start with 15B. They say that allows Democrats to perform abortions up until, 0.96

00:40:04 you know, birth, which is ridiculous. Ridiculous. Here's 15C, Biden and Kamala Harris on this issue. 0.99

00:40:12 We are not for late term abortion, period, period, period. Nowhere in America is a woman 1.00

00:40:19 carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening. It's insulting

00:40:26 to the women of america and massachusetts is the 10th state they're all blue states 1.00

00:40:33 to allow this with the cheering female crowds all around this governor as she gives permission to 1.00

00:40:41 to murder a 40-week-old baby in uterus it's awful did you notice they were wearing pink it reminded 0.97

00:40:48 me many of them were clearly intentionally coordinating to wear pink which reminded me

00:40:52 of when Andrew Cuomo lit up the Empire State Building pink, I believe, after signing a similar

00:40:58 bill. If I'm remembering correctly, it was after signing a similar bill. And I went and read the

00:41:02 language of this Massachusetts bill this morning. And this is the logical extension of their

00:41:08 position on abortion. So it's no wonder that they're happy about it. What it does is totally 0.86

00:41:12 remove state limits on why someone could receive a late-term abortion, meaning it says it is

00:41:19 entirely up to the discretion of the patient and the physician. Now, the New Yorker and the Atlantic

00:41:25 have profiled a man who does late-term abortions. He specializes in late-term abortions in Colorado

00:41:31 in recent years. I think he's in the Denver area. He said the majority of the abortions that he does

00:41:35 are of healthy babies. There's a complete misconception because a lot of times, actually,

00:41:40 the Massachusetts law, interestingly enough, I went and read it this morning, one of the things

00:41:45 that they have in it was already that you could have a mental illness or a mental health reason

00:41:50 for wanting to get an abortion in the ninth month. And that is actually where a lot of people who

00:41:55 don't have legitimate health problems with carrying the baby to term, that's a clear loophole. And

00:42:01 that's the fact check that allows the corporate media and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden to say,

00:42:04 we're not for full, we're not for a late term abortion, because when you have the mental health

00:42:08 exemption in it, that can be abused wildly. And it is, frankly, we've seen it many times

00:42:13 or out. It's an exception that swallows the rule. Yep. Yep, exactly. So this is very dark and late

00:42:21 term abortion in this country is actually not even controversial. Virtually everyone's against

00:42:25 it. I mean, it's just only these loons would favor such a thing. And honestly, at that point

00:42:32 in your pregnancy, there are very few things that actually pose a threat to the life of the mother.

00:42:38 I mean, I think Lila Rose would tell you at that point, whatever happens, you would just give birth

00:42:43 to the baby, they would do what they could to keep the baby alive. But the answer in that far

00:42:48 along in a pregnancy is not to kill the baby. It's to give birth to the baby, do what you can

00:42:53 to save the baby and save the mother as well. And that brings me to the saga of McKenna West,

00:42:59 whose story we broke here in the national media on Thursday. She is the surrogate mom from Alaska

00:43:07 who's pregnant with a baby who's due on September 2nd, a little boy she's calling Gabriel.

00:43:13 whose biological parents have hired her to be their surrogate. They're from California.

00:43:19 And baby Gabriel was diagnosed with a heart defect, a congenital heart defect at age 20 weeks.

00:43:26 And the parents told her to abort him. And she refused, even though the surrogacy contract says

00:43:32 they can dictate when to have an abortion. When the rubber met the road, she couldn't do it. 0.99

00:43:38 and she refused to abort him, and now he's almost due.

00:43:41 And they're in a massive legal battle

00:43:43 that is taking center stage in this country

00:43:45 about who's going to dictate care when he's born.

00:43:49 Because what he has is this heart condition

00:43:52 that if you get three surgeries,

00:43:54 one right after birth, one, I think, a year or two after,

00:43:57 and then one right after that, is very survivable.

00:43:59 You actually can survive and have a thriving life.

00:44:03 We showed video of a little boy who had it

00:44:05 on our show on Thursday.

00:44:07 And she's moved to Texas for now, where the law is very good on this issue.

00:44:13 And Ken Paxton, who is running for Senate down there for John Cornyn's old seat, he

00:44:21 stepped in because he's the attorney general and argued on McKenna's behalf and said,

00:44:25 this baby deserves a guardian ad litem, somebody to argue for the baby's rights himself.

00:44:29 And the family, the parents, the biological parents should be forced to provide life-saving

00:44:35 care once this infant is born because there was a question about whether those parents are prepared

00:44:39 to just provide palliative care like let him die comfortably or actually provide the surgery

00:44:46 that could save his life and now there's been a court ruling we were waiting for it yesterday

00:44:51 saying this child will be given life-saving treatment if he needs it upon birth but

00:44:56 recognizing the biological parents as the parents so it's not yet done we're still awaiting more

00:45:04 court rulings on this, Emily, but we are in a fierce fight here that's going to affect Ken

00:45:07 Paxton's probable Senate run. It's going to affect the right to life in this country,

00:45:12 and it's going absolutely to affect surrogacy in this country.

00:45:16 Absolutely it is. And this puts, again, to the test the idea that abortion is about,

00:45:22 totally about women's bodily autonomy. That is the left's position. That's exactly why you see

00:45:26 bills like the one in Massachusetts being signed so proudly. Because if you really do believe that,

00:45:32 if you believe that a woman's bodily autonomy is a right that is higher than the right to life,

00:45:39 then of course you have to defend this. You have to defend this vigorously and you have to defend

00:45:43 this proudly. But we know just the fact that we know this little baby has a congenital heart

00:45:48 defect tells us how developed he is. He has a beautiful little life that is already bringing

00:45:52 joy to the woman who is carrying him. He has equal dignity to you and me. And our government

00:45:57 doesn't recognize it depending on the state that you're in. So these cases, I mean, technology is

00:46:02 pushing the abortion question into a much more interesting place, I think, because it's starting

00:46:07 to challenge some of what we thought we knew about what happens in the body and how we develop as

00:46:13 human beings in utero. But people need to go back and watch your interview if they haven't, even

00:46:18 just focusing on some of the cases of people who have survived these congenital heart defects and

00:46:23 went on to to be beautiful living breathing humans just like you and me um it's hard to even talk

00:46:29 about but i hope people do confront the challenges of this case because it does put to test if you

00:46:33 really believe this is about a woman's bodily autonomy what you're saying is that's more

00:46:37 important than this little baby's life which is already in existence human and alive that's a

00:46:42 human life meets those two criteria as christopher hitchens said actually uh famously if if these

00:46:48 biological parents don't want him. Let let a parent or a family that does have him. You just

00:46:54 wanted him aborted. You just said you wanted him killed. Now he's not killed. He's going to be 1.00

00:47:00 born. Why don't just give him up? Just like McKenna said, her brother wants to adopt him.

00:47:05 Lila Rose was here, too. She's got lots of families who would adopt him. They'll they'll

00:47:08 help with the medical issues, all of that. You don't have to worry about the money.

00:47:12 Just just give him up. Stop. Stop with this, like to fight for custody for him, just so that

00:47:18 he could be allowed to die which is still on the table potentially the parents haven't said much

00:47:23 publicly at this point the biological um so we are continuing to follow this because we're the

00:47:28 baby's born the baby's due to be born on september 2nd and there's precious little time to make sure

00:47:33 this legal fight gets resolved the right that's basically all right and it should be treated as

00:47:37 such it's deeply disturbing i'm like and now we know this baby now it's a baby boy his name is

00:47:42 gabriel he has a mother right now carrying him to term and a court has stepped in to recognize his

00:47:48 rights, his right to life as he's about to be born. It just cannot be. And honestly,

00:47:55 it just is a political matter. These Democrats should not want it to be that these biological 1.00

00:48:00 parents are allowed to take him and just watch him die, watch him suffer and die.

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00:49:34 Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party and the MK Wrap-Up Show, is back with me. Okay,

00:49:43 so we have to properly address my favorite story of the day. Has to do with Canada,

00:49:49 the evil top hat, misbehaving yet again. They have their own Miss Universe pageant,

00:49:55 just to start at the beginning again. They have their own Miss Universe pageant,

00:49:59 and it didn't go well. It happened last week. Things went way off the rails. Okay. Here's

00:50:08 how it got started. They decided to have a national costume segment. Now you're playing

00:50:17 with fire. My friends up North, you're playing with fire, right? I can speak to this personally.

00:50:23 Yeah. Be careful. If you're a woke Canadian, you don't want a national costume segment.

00:50:29 And you certainly don't want one whose goal is, quote, a celebration of Canadian culture and heritage combined with creativity.

00:50:38 It's not going to go well.

00:50:41 Each delegate must showcase a unique costume, dress or outfit inspired by Canada's traditions, symbols and history.

00:50:49 Now, a gal who's in the pageant, two gals, one named Carissa Haverkamp and one named Jasleen Kelly, took it very seriously.

00:50:59 Carissa wore a feather headdress 0.99

00:51:02 and a red handprint painted on her face,

00:51:05 which is a symbol representing solidarity

00:51:07 with the missing and murdered

00:51:08 indigenous women's movement.

00:51:11 Okay, that's the one gal there.

00:51:13 The other gal, that's the one on the right 1.00

00:51:15 with the headdress. 1.00

00:51:16 The one on the left is Jasleen Kelly,

00:51:19 whose costume was the theme Arctic Beauty,

00:51:22 featuring an all-fur dress and boots

00:51:25 known as mucklucks.

00:51:26 And here's the real sin, Emily. 0.99

00:51:29 two braids, WTF. She had the nerve to wear braids and the BBC would like us to know, 0.82

00:51:36 and I quote, hair braiding can have deep cultural meaning for first nations people. Okay. So you're

00:51:41 offending people by wearing braids. Jasleen is an interior design student model and humanitarian

00:51:47 advocate. She hopes to one day become a globally recognized interior designer and humanitarian

00:51:52 leader, proving that success is most meaningful when it is used to uplift others. So she's going

00:51:57 to find you a home if you're homeless and then design it for you and make it I don't like I'm

00:52:04 not sure how you combine those two but that's she didn't get off to the right on the right foot

00:52:09 because the people who she wants to impress with her humanitarian commitments they're not going to 0.96

00:52:14 go for this jasmine let me tell you right now your braids your arctic beauty and your all fur dress

00:52:20 are a hard no but you don't have to take my word for it even though you should because I do have

00:52:25 experience in this department. Listen to previous Miss Universe winner out of Canada, Ashley

00:52:34 Calling Bull. And now the last name should tell you something about where this is going.

00:52:41 Calling Bull, which you could separate down to Calling Bull or Calling Bull, which is how she 1.00

00:52:49 sees it, um, had something to say about those outfits and those damn braids. She's a Plains 1.00

00:52:57 Cree woman from the Enoch Cree nation. And she was out there as a co-host of the event. She won

00:53:02 back in 2024. So she's standing next to this dude named Sonny Borelli, who's the national director

00:53:07 of Miss Universe Canada. And they're doing something else in the pageant. She's, she has

00:53:13 not been asked to come out there and comment on or judge the costume segment at all. They've moved

00:53:20 on. She actually is like a couple of days later and she's trying to help co-officiate, co-host

00:53:26 this pageant. She hijacks it to interject her opinions on the costume segment that happened 0.99

00:53:35 days earlier. Let me do it this way because she first decided to go on the radio, which no one

00:53:39 asked her to do and start bitching about the pageant she was co-hosting, letting everyone 1.00

00:53:44 know that Calling Bull had some real problems with the way shit was going down. 0.99

00:53:49 Here's the radio segment first. 0.99

00:53:51 I felt like I was educating them and giving them hell at the same time because I needed

00:53:57 them to understand how bad this was and how much it affects other people.

00:54:03 and i'm glad i got the message across but it was uh it was heavy on me it was really heavy on my

00:54:13 heart okay i i i me me me she was apparently for the costume segment not in the arena she saw it

00:54:21 online she was outraged she called into her own pageant to to educate them and also to give them 1.00

00:54:27 hell, you might say, call bull on what they had done. And so she felt she was so outraged. She

00:54:33 had to call into the local radio station to shit on the competition that she was the queen of. 1.00

00:54:37 I mean, 2024, your reign is over, but whatever. And then she's just supposed to do her duties. 1.00

00:54:43 And as you know, just like with the Oscars or the Grammys, airtime on the stage is precious.

00:54:50 Everything you say comes at the expense of something else they had in the rundown,

00:54:55 calling bull. If you had spent any time in television, you would know that she just she

00:55:01 went on this. Her hijacking went on. I couldn't believe how long it was. It's too long for me to

00:55:06 play the whole thing. We cut it down to one minute. Here is the one minute that we cut from

00:55:11 what was like a three minute speech she gave. Watch. I have the envelope and we're going to

00:55:16 call our top 20. Before we do that, Sonny, I wanted to acknowledge something. If we can turn

00:55:21 the music down just a little bit. So with Miss Universe Canada, me being the first Indigenous

00:55:28 First Nations Miss Universe Canada, that was such a huge honor. I wanted to acknowledge this. During

00:55:35 the national competition, the costume competition, there was cultural appropriation that was done

00:55:40 towards Indigenous peoples. And with Sonny, he took action by listening to me. I feel that it's

00:55:46 my responsibility to also give you an opportunity to say something to the indigenous community

00:55:52 because yes there was a statement but and i'm sorry it goes so far yes on behalf of all of us

00:55:58 at miss universe canada it was not our intent to offend anybody and if we did we take full

00:56:03 responsibility we will learn from it we will make it better we will make it right we love you we

00:56:08 love canada and that's why we're here yes and what i and hold on and and we're going to take

00:56:13 another step further i uh reached out uh to ashley we'd like to invite you to be the official

00:56:19 liaison to our costume competition moving forward we apologize again we love you now that we are

00:56:25 celebrating people's cultures let's celebrate who's making it into the top 20 right oh my god

00:56:32 she's good she is insufferable so how about that right all right now we're going to call the top 0.96

00:56:39 20 before we do that turn the music down by the way i love that they didn't they didn't they

00:56:45 clearly did not want her to interrupt this way it was cultural appropriation sunny you took action

00:56:51 but you need after listening to me but your statement wasn't good enough because this poor

00:56:56 guy sunny of course is with his man bun i don't feel bad they're apologizing since it happened i 0.95

00:57:02 don't feel bad no me neither um now the two girls had to had to issue statements have her camp i

00:57:08 acknowledge and recognize that my outfit for the national costume caused hurt and offense to people

00:57:12 in the indigenous community. I'm proud of my own great grandmother and her resilience and how much

00:57:16 she was there for my dad and desire to share that with Canada and the world. I appreciate what I've

00:57:19 learned from this experience. Blah, blah, blah. Self-flagellation. Then the other gal, Kaylee,

00:57:24 my intention was never to disrespect or misrepresent indigenous culture, but rather

00:57:27 to recognize and celebrate one of the first peoples of Canada. Everyone's sorry. Miss Universe Canada,

00:57:32 they apologized and thanked calling bull. We've recently received feedback regarding some of the

00:57:37 national costumes. We want to address this directly and sincerely. If any costume caused

00:57:41 offense, hurt, or misunderstanding, please know it was never our intention. This segment was

00:57:45 intended to celebrate creativity, heritage, and identity. However, we recognize that every design

00:57:49 requires deep care, respect, and continuous evaluation. A special thank you to our former

00:57:54 Miss Universe Canada, Ashley Collingville, for her guidance, advice, and assistance on how best

00:57:59 to address and resolve this. To ensure that this doesn't happen again, now we're going to have a

00:58:03 comprehensive costume guide the guide will establish clear guidelines and standards for

00:58:07 all future pageant cycles to ensure every presentation is thoughtful and respectful

00:58:12 and lo and behold ashley calling bull will run the costume segment from here 0.99

00:58:17 so you can wear what like i don't know little cat ears and a tail i'm like what are you going 1.00

00:58:26 to be able to get away with now because you come anywhere close to like a fucking braid 1.00

00:58:32 and you're out of there uh you know my favorite kind of meghan kelly show segment is a segment 0.99

00:58:40 in which meghan kelly cracks meghan kelly up i guess you're reading the details of the story

00:58:47 you were like losing it and it's funny because five years ago we would all have been expected

00:58:53 to treat this like a serious controversy because actually there would have been like boycotts

00:58:57 organized and the organization itself would have had to have pretended to care about this and like

00:59:03 yes they are pretending to care about whatever but it would have been yeah you could get fired

00:59:06 thank god nobody did thank god nobody did diana ross thank god that was exactly the universe

00:59:15 dodged a bullet and that this is the silver line now you you will be allowed to appear as a maple

00:59:22 belief only. That will be the new costume competition. It's so absurd. Like, and back

00:59:29 to the damn braid thing. I was just saying this. Remember, right. You heard this the other day 1.00

00:59:34 when we weren't allowed to put braids at all, because you were considered a racist. If you go

00:59:38 down to the Caribbean, all these women, the local women are like, Oh, can I braid your hair? And 1.00

00:59:43 like, they make $40 if you let them do it. No, if you say yes, and you put $40 in a black woman's 1.00

00:59:49 pocket down in the Bahamas to break your head. You're a racist for doing that. You help a black 1.00

00:59:53 woman out by giving her the 40 bucks to let her do something she's great at. Fuck you, racist. 1.00

00:59:58 That's how it is. And yet, like, so this girl's trying to honor. She's like featuring the 1.00

01:00:03 indigenous, you know, culture at the Miss Universe, like calling attention to it. God bless these 0.93

01:00:09 people. This is how the native dance and let's celebrate. No, you're a racist. You apologize.

01:00:15 The pageant will humiliate you.

01:00:17 The person who's humiliating you will be made the new boss of the whole costume segment. 0.80

01:00:23 It's the self-flagellation is stomach turning.

01:00:26 It genuinely creates acid in my stomach.

01:00:29 I mean, the implications of Ashley calling Bull's argument, which is just about herself.

01:00:35 She's using this as a virtue signal.

01:00:37 She's using this as a fashion statement. 1.00

01:00:39 Like she's using this as an ideological fashion statement.

01:00:42 You can tell, by the way, she keeps saying me.

01:00:43 But the implication is actually rather offensive to minorities, to indigenous folks in Canada, as Francesca Hong would say, because it makes them out to be perpetual victims who are so fragile and weak that they they are deeply offended by cultural appropriation.

01:01:02 It's hurtful to them because they saw people dress in indigenous costumes at a Miss Universe pageant.

01:01:09 They're not watching the Miss Universe pageant.

01:01:11 As opposed to an honor.

01:01:12 Yeah.

01:01:13 Every normal person, whatever their culture is, if you see somebody else celebrating it, 1.00

01:01:17 these girls weren't like shitting on native Canadians, I guess it is, indigenous at all. 0.54

01:01:22 They were like celebrating, saying this is a thing of beauty. 0.96

01:01:25 Let's celebrate them in a gorgeous way. 0.99

01:01:28 These are, you know, stunning model types up there.

01:01:30 No, everything's got to be offensive, right?

01:01:32 It's like, so, okay, the solution is we won't celebrate you at all. 0.99

01:01:38 We will never honor your culture. 1.00

01:01:41 We will never teach our children about the way that your people lived or have the day in school where they can go into a teepee and, you know, dress in sort of indigenous robes or no, hell no.

01:01:54 They'll all be called little racists.

01:01:56 We're just going to skip right over that. And your culture will get slowly but surely forgotten because there aren't enough of you to keep it going without some other peoples to then also discuss it and possibly wear it and celebrate it. Like there's just not enough of you. So let's just do the math. It's just it's so absurd. I can't believe we're still playing this game. Canada is so lost. Debbie, why do you live there? Why? Why?

01:02:26 You moved there and you won't come back. 1.00

01:02:28 You just kept having Canadian children. 1.00

01:02:31 Now you're stuck up there 0.97

01:02:32 with the Melody Wisehearts of the world.

01:02:34 Oh, the kids are Canadians.

01:02:35 Debbie. 0.73

01:02:36 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:02:37 She not only married a damn Canadian, 1.00

01:02:39 she gave birth to damn Canadians. 1.00

01:02:41 And now she's stuck up there. 1.00

01:02:43 Now she's talking about their national healthcare

01:02:45 and like how the system's working.

01:02:48 I don't even know what to do with her.

01:02:49 Okay, but I love her. 0.72

01:02:52 Equally outrageous behavior down here in our country 1.00

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01:05:48 on the braids discussion yesterday on the show we were talking about this

01:05:56 dijon a carrington who plays for the sky and she'd committed this obviously intentional file

01:06:02 foul against sophie cunningham and could have really hurt her like got her by the neck

01:06:07 it was disturbing to see she got the play the flagrant two foul which meant she got ejected 0.99

01:06:12 from the game and then she tweeted white privilege from her locker room and added the indiana fever

01:06:17 but she tagged the indiana fever on it and she did it right after this happened it was so clear 0.99

01:06:23 what happened then when she started to get a bunch of shit for like how dare she call white 0.98

01:06:27 privilege in the wnba what come on she was like i never said it was about the foul or the fever 1.00

01:06:34 like no you literally did cc the fever on your comment and then started a lecture us in her 0.99

01:06:41 little post saying as follows uh because she went to school at stanford for some of this bullshit 1.00

01:06:47 African-American studies. I actually went to school, one of the top universities, I might add, 0.96

01:06:52 to educate myself on this exact subject. I would never use that term as a rhetorical weapon,

01:06:58 knowing the historical and social way it holds without having the proper evidence to substantiate

01:07:03 it. And she said that it's on the last thing from ignorant or asinine when it comes to speaking on 0.96

01:07:09 white privilege. Do your research on that one. Okay. Now, let me tell you something about this 0.99

01:07:16 girl. So first of all, two points, Jason Whitlock. I got a lot of thoughts. Jason Whitlock

01:07:20 tweeted out a full screen, a picture of Dijoné when she graduated from Stanford. Here it is.

01:07:28 And Dijoné now. And honestly, like, this is what got me talking about the braids. It's like,

01:07:34 look at her on the right. She's got hair that's whiter than mine, straighter than mine,

01:07:38 super long. It goes down to her butt now. And, but so she can wear this, which is obviously 0.98

01:07:44 white girl hair, but I can't wear a braid or I'm a racist, like, or in Canada, a feather.

01:07:50 No, you can't do it, but this is fine. She's allowed to culturally appropriate from, from me,

01:07:56 but I can't culturally appropriate from her because it only works one way in becoming a racist, 1.00

01:08:01 which is bullshit. But his point was more about, look at, look at how she looks now. Can you put 0.98

01:08:05 that back up there? Like she appears to have done something like to give herself filler face, 0.67

01:08:11 Like the super puffed out cheekbones, the like overly arched eyebrows, the like overly lined lips and like the tood, you know, with like the facial expression and the bright blonde hair, as opposed to the stunningly gorgeous person she was in the picture from Stanford, where she's just looks like a normal, gorgeous gal.

01:08:35 And Jason Whitlock, he's amazing. He posted on X quote, look at what the WNBA stole from us.

01:08:44 The young lady on the left is the dream of every black father and every black son. The woman on 0.98

01:08:50 the right is feminism's creation and a nightmare. DeJanae Carrington in both pictures, one in 0.85

01:08:57 college, the other in the WNBA. Right on. I totally agree with him. And it's also the place that she

01:09:04 started to talk like she talked in that post she sounded like a normal person in her videos from 0.98

01:09:10 Stanford and get this attitude right it was the WNBA that did this to her not Stanford which is 1.00

01:09:16 why you shouldn't send your daughter there this league corrupts you in a very sick and unhealthy 0.62

01:09:22 way and then one final point Emily her privilege claim okay this woman her dad was in the NFL

01:09:32 No, apparently was like really good. Standout safety in the NFL who played in two, not one, but two Super Bowls during his eight year professional career.

01:09:43 Her mother, Vicki, was a star track athlete. She attended Horizon Christian Academy, a private K through 12 school in San Diego.

01:09:52 It closed in 2018, but her tuition there averaged between eight and eleven thousand dollars a year, a year.

01:10:01 And this was back, you know, quite a few years ago when she was in grade school.

01:10:06 Modern day estimates would put that around $17,000 for kindergarten, up to $20,000 a

01:10:11 year for high school.

01:10:12 She became a highly touted prospect who played for elite programs.

01:10:15 She attended Stanford University and finished up her college career at Baylor.

01:10:19 I don't know about you, but I did not go to a fancy private school that cost 20 grand

01:10:25 a year or have both of my parents in the home since my dad died when I was 15.

01:10:31 both of them earning, both of them with enormous privilege, thanks to their incredible God-given

01:10:36 talents in the athletic field, one who was a double NFL Super Bowl player. How dare she

01:10:44 try to play the white privilege card? Actually, having two parents in your home is more predictive 0.78

01:10:52 as a privilege of getting good grades than is money. So that in and of itself, which sets her

01:10:59 apart from a lot, unfortunately, of Black kids in this country and white kids, too. But that,

01:11:04 of course, sets herself up. That sets her apart. And I think all of this just shows how shallow 0.80

01:11:09 the identity politics really are, because to your point about how it's only appropriation

01:11:14 when it's a white person appropriating minority culture, they would, if they were here, say,

01:11:20 yeah, absolutely. It's actually baked into the texts about intersectionality and cultural

01:11:25 appropriation that came out of academia in the 1980s and the 1990s particularly, they say you

01:11:32 can only commit cultural appropriation if you are from the race in power. But all of this shows,

01:11:37 even as we were just talking about having money, having two parents, it is not skin deep. And to

01:11:44 act like all of this is skin deep is racist in and of itself. It makes zero sense. And I'm so glad

01:11:51 that more and more people don't feel like

01:11:53 they have to take this stuff seriously 0.99

01:11:54 because it is utterly farcical and dumb 0.99

01:11:57 and makes no sense. 0.99

01:11:59 It is hilarious, but it makes no sense.

01:12:02 I'm very tempted to show up on the air tomorrow

01:12:05 with Jason Arday hair and see how that goes over.

01:12:09 Don't do that.

01:12:11 The dreads down to my knees.

01:12:14 I wonder how that'd go over.

01:12:15 Why could she have my hair, but I can't have her hair? 1.00

01:12:18 Honestly, it's like, it's such bullshit. 0.99

01:12:20 Meanwhile, I couldn't care less what color she dyes her hair or whether she straights. 0.99

01:12:23 Great, if that's what you think looks good, you do you. 0.88

01:12:26 I honestly don't care. 1.00

01:12:27 It's only this woke, scold type on the left that's ripping on the girls who wear the braids 1.00

01:12:33 and tweeting out white privilege that would chastise somebody for wearing a braid 1.00

01:12:39 or something that she considers just for black people. 0.88

01:12:42 It's just outrageous. 0.80

01:12:43 And now, while we're on the subject of the WNBA,

01:12:46 um the coach of the fever this stephanie white her first instinct was not to have sophie 1.00

01:12:53 cunningham's back and say holy shit this dijon a character almost you know broke her neck it was 1.00

01:13:00 to say nay she's gonna get in there she's gonna defend that basket she's not just gonna let you 0.94

01:13:05 run in there and do a layup and i don't think this was intentional you know it's with the hard 0.98

01:13:10 foul. Okay. Whatever. But like, I, this wasn't intentional. Like, what are you saying? Yeah.

01:13:15 It obviously was everybody else on earth disagrees with you. And why don't you have the back of your

01:13:21 player, Stephanie? This woman, Stephanie is very bizarre. Whenever she talks to me, 1.00

01:13:26 she sounds like she's trying to like sound like a tough guy or like, like a man. I think this is

01:13:31 what the WNBA does to you. You lose all feminine femininity. And you think that like to be cool 1.00

01:13:35 or an authority figure. You have to act like a man or like a foul-mouthed person. Now, I come by

01:13:42 my foul mouth authentically. It's authentic. You're Irish. Okay. And I practiced law for 10

01:13:49 years. That's really where it happened. But anyway, you can see she's using it to like sound

01:13:55 tough in the following clip. And she's now pissed. They were going to their next game 0.99

01:14:01 and she held a presser before the game all about herself she went on i i never do soundbikes more

01:14:09 than a minute i told the team to make an exception here because i want you to hear it all and then

01:14:14 we're going to analyze it like the zapruder film watch no i'm going to start today um you know this

01:14:21 isn't necessarily for those people that are in this room um this is more for an online community

01:14:27 that's trying to create narratives that simply don't exist,

01:14:33 trying to create a fabrication or distortion of who I am, of what I'm about.

01:14:39 Our players' success, our players' health and wellness,

01:14:42 our players' safety is always a top priority for me.

01:14:44 One of the things I pride myself on is my relationships with players.

01:14:48 For those who have anything to say about the play in the last game,

01:14:52 I didn't see the play in real time.

01:14:53 I went straight to a press conference.

01:14:55 I thought the play got called right.

01:14:56 Thankfully, Sophie's okay.

01:14:58 Was it egregious?

01:15:00 Absolutely.

01:15:01 When you have a chance to watch that over and over and over on replay,

01:15:05 you can see that.

01:15:06 I didn't have that in real time.

01:15:10 Were there any suggestions?

01:15:11 I take personally any suggestions that I don't 100% always have my players back.

01:15:18 I ride with them 10 toes down all the time, all the time.

01:15:22 They know that.

01:15:23 it's a shame that we can't have an opportunity to talk about what great basketball they're playing

01:15:29 because they are playing playing okay the reality is with me i will always lead with love

01:15:39 i will always lead with grace i will always lead with humility and i will always lead with

01:15:47 integrity doesn't mean i'll always get it right i'm also human the hate the fear-mongering the

01:15:55 divisiveness the stuff that's trying to hijack our league will not win okay it won't win

01:16:04 we are united we are connected we will not be divided

01:16:11 every day these women put their on the line every day when they go low we go high love will win

01:16:23 grace will win humility will win and kindness will win i stand by them 0.98

01:16:31 i will always stand by them everybody else can go to hell 0.94

01:16:34 who does she think she is 1.00

01:16:42 i've got you bravo well done stephanie love and kindness go to fucking hell 1.00

01:16:52 oh we lost the plot does he come back 1.00

01:16:58 come back i but when they go low we go i go to hell oh wait with stephanie no you're doing it 0.59

01:17:05 wrong we gotta talk sister this is not the way this this gal is entertaining okay so let's go 0.99

01:17:14 over it i i'm gonna start i'm i'm me me the whole thing well but no no she's leading with 1.00

01:17:21 humility megan so it's not all about her true then she's got her dropping her g's

01:17:27 trying they're trying to create narratives she's got a little the she's got a little of the uh

01:17:32 what's her name hayley stevens in her just just a tad then she goes uh who narratives about who i

01:17:39 am and what i'm about actually none of us gives two shits about that whatsoever we just saw that 0.61

01:17:44 you didn't have your players back and thought it was terrible like no one really cares who you are 0.52

01:17:48 or what you're about actually um okay i i did not see the play in real time this is her defense for

01:17:54 why she didn't have Sophie's back. Perhaps you shouldn't have commented on it then. Perhaps you

01:17:59 should have said, I didn't see it. And therefore I will reserve judgment on what nay was trying to 0.98

01:18:06 do, trying and what she wasn't till, you know, you've seen it because that would be the responsible 0.99

01:18:12 thing to do. Um, I, I take personally any suggestion that I don't have my players back.

01:18:18 Okay. We don't care about you. No one cares if you're offended or what you're taking personally.

01:18:24 man this is a fucking playing they're exactly fucking playing okay tough guy all right we got 0.99

01:18:32 it and and it's a shame we can't talk about that that they're now why is it that we're not just 0.99

01:18:37 talking about the plan emily because you try to refresh my memory if you could you know i think

01:18:44 it is the just abject violence being committed against a couple of the white players

01:18:49 the war and this actually is what drives me easier yes wmba thing than anything else is

01:18:57 they're doing the classic move of when someone punches you and you punch back and the ref

01:19:02 throws the flag at the person who punched back that's what they're doing they started this 1.00

01:19:07 bullshit caitlin clark was popular because she was shooting wild three-pointers she was making 0.99

01:19:10 three-point records in her rookie year over and over again she was popular because she was making 0.98

01:19:14 the game more exciting they're the ones that racialized it they're the ones that put boys

01:19:18 in girls sports everyone else is just responding right exactly right and it's like your play so

01:19:26 i'm sorry but it was a player in your league who tweeted out white privilege um we're i'm pretty

01:19:33 sure we're allowed to comment on that i you then defended that player who tried to break your

01:19:40 player's neck from the look of it so we have thoughts are we not allowed to have thoughts 0.90

01:19:45 stephanie um is that the kind of plan fucking plan that we're not allowed to comment on um this 1.00

01:19:52 gal's not ready for prime time that's what's clear and the best was just the the icing on the cake 0.97

01:19:56 like we will leave with love and grace and integrity hate and fear-mongering will not win

01:20:02 when they go low we go high fuck off there's an amazing how the hell there's an amazing episode 0.99

01:20:10 of the office where they're coaching dwight to give a speech at like a paper distributing 0.99

01:20:15 convention and they show him like fascist speeches and he's up there giving this really boring speech

01:20:22 and he's like pounding the podium and it's really contrived that's exactly what she just did to the

01:20:27 the table pound it was like what are you trying to audition for like a movie that's hysterical

01:20:34 it's a very good idea i you know i've never watched the office

01:20:37 i know don't admit that in public you'd like it you gotta start from i know i need to

01:20:45 there are so many cultural references to it that i've seen clips of course but like i've

01:20:49 never seen the whole series and it's on my bucket list okay last but not least we have got to talk

01:20:55 about mckenna okay there is big news in the case stand by hold on a second uh i don't want to

01:21:04 ad lib it. Where is it? Here it is, right? Is this? No, also, where did it come? Under producers here.

01:21:12 Okay, yeah, I just don't want to screw it up. McKenna West, the surrogate who has been pregnant 0.99

01:21:18 with baby Gabriel and in a fight with his birth parents, his biological parents over whether he

01:21:25 could be aborted, which she refused to do, and whether he would be entitled to life-saving care

01:21:31 upon birth, his due date September 2nd, has just given birth. Gabriel is here. He was born three

01:21:39 weeks early in a Texas hospital. This happened just as we were on the air last hour. According

01:21:45 to McKenna's lawyer, Lincoln Wilson, who was on the program last Thursday, reading you the news,

01:21:51 McKenna gave birth today in Texas. She was not able to hold or see the baby due to the temporary

01:21:56 restraining order the Texas court entered yesterday. It is believed that the biological

01:22:00 parents are present and that due to another order of the Texas court, baby Gabriel will soon be

01:22:07 receiving the life-saving surgery that McKenna has fought so hard for. He also shares that baby

01:22:13 Gabriel would not need the surgery within an hour, more like within a few days, but what he definitely

01:22:19 did need was to get on medication that stabilizes him and keeps his heart open to allow the surgery

01:22:25 to take place. Thankfully, yesterday's order ensures that he will get that care and is getting

01:22:32 that care. He also now has his own guardian appointed to look out for his interests,

01:22:36 a guardian ad litem, which is big. That person's job is to look out for not the birth mother, 0.91

01:22:41 not the biological parents, but Gabriel only and will fight only for the baby. Thank God.

01:22:48 So we don't know whether the biological parents are there because she went three weeks early

01:22:54 And it's possible they weren't there. But it's very sad that McKenna wasn't able to hold the baby. It's very sad for the baby that he wasn't able to be on his mother's chest and have that skin to skin contact. It's extremely comforting for babies, for newborns. That seems cruel to me, seems cruel to the baby. And I wonder what the story is with these biological parents, Emily.

01:23:19 That is amazing that the order was yesterday and she went into labor three weeks early and had to, I mean, thank God, thank God truly that she went to Texas. The order came down yesterday. Yes. We pray for the doctors that are working on a little on a little baby because that can't be easy either.

01:23:36 i know no it's so true thank god she hooked up with alliance defending freedom i'm telling you

01:23:43 if you want if you're looking for somebody to donate to alliance defending freedom 100 honestly

01:23:48 they do the lord's work like literally they're doing the lord's work there and uh this is one

01:23:54 of their cases and this is this guy used to be with adf and he is representing her and i'm i'm

01:24:00 sure he told her you need to leave alaska and get down to texas where the law is much better

01:24:05 for the unborn and she did and she did it soon she did it early you know because babies do come

01:24:11 early they come three weeks early all the time and uh lo and behold she was here thursday and

01:24:16 look what look what happens within you know less than a week that's a miracle she gave birth

01:24:20 she thanks to her thanks to mckenna that baby had his legal rights represented and protected

01:24:27 by the texas courts and to his credit ken paxton the current ag of texas stepped in

01:24:33 and argued on behalf of McKenna as well,

01:24:35 which I'm sure made a difference and good for him

01:24:38 because it's one thing to say you're pro-life

01:24:40 and it's quite another to actually get in there

01:24:41 and start swinging when it matters,

01:24:44 when it's just one life. 1.00

01:24:46 You know, like that's one thing about Christians, 0.81

01:24:48 about most pro-life Republicans

01:24:51 and pro-life Democrats too, for that matter,

01:24:53 is just one life.

01:24:55 They will fight for.

01:24:56 Each one matters so much.

01:24:58 What a beautiful thing to stand for, you know?

01:25:01 Now this birth mother, McKenna, the surrogate mom, no matter what happens, will always be able to look at this child and say, I fought for you.

01:25:12 I saved you.

01:25:14 She has saved him thus far.

01:25:17 And let's just hope and pray that he's able to be saved now that he's here.

01:25:21 And it's forcing so many important legal questions, which you've covered exceptionally well, that because of how quickly surrogacy technology evolved,

01:25:30 I think a lot of people didn't necessarily even think like there was just an episode actually of Keeping Up with the Kardashians where this came up where Khloe had twins and in a surrogate.

01:25:40 And they were wondering, well, could the surrogate, if they don't want to have twins, abort?

01:25:44 And they clearly just hadn't really thought that through, that these were their babies and another human being and there would be legal repercussions.

01:25:51 And so cases like these do force us to confront the legal, philosophical, deep questions.

01:25:57 And it's about time we do.

01:25:59 It's pastime that we do.

01:26:01 I'm sorry.

01:26:03 You may be the biological parents, but you bring a third person into the relationship

01:26:08 of giving birth to your child, and that person's going to have strong opinions on something

01:26:14 like abortion, no matter what she's signed.

01:26:18 That's just the truth.

01:26:20 If you don't want to have to deal with those issues, have your own baby or adopt.

01:26:25 But if you want to do it this way with a surrogate, that other person's going to have a say.

01:26:31 That's really what this case showed us.

01:26:33 You can't force her to get an abortion. 0.57

01:26:36 You can't. 1.00

01:26:37 They tried.

01:26:38 It failed.

01:26:40 You can't.

01:26:41 She actually does have a say by God, by right, you know, and she saved this baby's life.

01:26:48 And if he's able to be saved and to have a thriving childhood, I pray God that's the

01:26:53 case he will have her to thank for it and um i you know i just wonder emily i like what if the

01:27:01 parents the birth parents they get him the life-saving care because now there's a national

01:27:06 spotlight on them and there's a guardian ad litem insisting on it do they raise this child now

01:27:11 do they do they look at this child and say we didn't want you as soon as we found out there

01:27:18 was something wrong with you we tried to have you killed we went to court to insist on our right to

01:27:24 be able to do it but we lost and then you came into the world and we figured uh he's here and

01:27:31 this is my own opinion this is my own judgment of how how their role in this is unfolded but

01:27:37 what do they how do they handle that it's rare that i'm looking at a glass as being half full

01:27:42 as opposed to half empty but there may be a real glass hole half full scenario here where

01:27:46 they have a living, breathing baby that was born of them and see the error of their ways and are

01:27:53 able to make a cause out of it and publicly talk about how they got this wrong and how they're

01:28:00 very grateful for this beautiful living baby made in God's image. And they can take that message to

01:28:06 the public. I hope and pray that's what happens given their conduct so far. I doubt that's what's

01:28:10 going to happen. But obviously having a living, breathing baby that you can hold changes you.

01:28:17 And that could be enormously persuasive. It really could be. And maybe that'll be the case.

01:28:22 And they will be amazing surrogates for this message that many people need to hear.

01:28:27 Maybe I shouldn't be optimistic about that, but there is a real opportunity if that's what

01:28:31 happens for this little baby to change hearts. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to have to change his heart

01:28:39 in order to live. And he may be changing a lot of other hearts along the way with his journey

01:28:45 and his story, we hope of survival and wellness. God bless McKenna. I'm sure she's going through

01:28:51 it. This has got to be very emotional for her because she's saved him and yet she can't hold

01:28:56 him. She can't help him. She can't comfort him. And we don't know what's happening with the birth

01:29:02 parents. We will find out and we will bring you the update tomorrow. Emily, thanks for everything

01:29:08 you do for us here at the MK Media Company

01:29:12 and on the air, both at SiriusXM and otherwise.

01:29:15 We love you so much.

01:29:16 You're the best.

01:29:17 Lots of love, Megan.

01:29:17 Thank you.

01:29:18 We're back tomorrow with Maureen Callahan.

01:29:21 We'll see you all day. 0.62

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The Megyn Kelly Show - August 12, 2026

Hong's SHOCK Loss in Wisconsin, Minnesota in Play with Tafoya, and WNBA Coach WHINES, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1378

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