The Megyn Kelly Show - Illegal Migrant Commits Terror Attack, and Left Turning on Each Other, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:11.880 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. Gosh,

00:00:16.200 there's a lot. There's a lot to go over. Is it every Monday? I don't know. It's this Monday,

00:00:21.660 there's a lot to go over, including this horrific story. It just keeps happening. This one out of

00:00:29.800 Colorado, elderly women and men, one, a Holocaust survivor, set on fire in an attempt to burn them

00:00:37.940 to death in a vile anti-Semitic terror attack. Have you checked in on your Jewish friends?

00:00:44.060 I can't imagine what it was like for them to go to synagogue this past weekend. I mean,

00:00:50.700 this keeps happening and it doesn't change the national conversation and it's not dominating

00:00:56.660 news coverage the way a mass shooting would, the way a single attack by a white person on a single

00:01:04.700 black person would. It's just kind of like, anyway, zero calls, in fact, for a national conversation

00:01:12.020 to take place in legacy media. They don't see the pattern. And let's face it, there are sympathies,

00:01:17.900 for some weird reason, are entirely with the Hamas defenders. It's not even the top story right now on

00:01:26.320 the New York Times website. What is there? I'm sorry. Was there another terror attack someplace that

00:01:30.360 I missed? Maybe I missed it. Was it the horrific gang violence with these six illegals who killed

00:01:39.940 a black woman? Is the New York Times leading? No, they don't give a shit about that either because

00:01:44.880 it's not white people who did it. But we'll get to it. In fact, in response to what happened in

00:01:53.000 Colorado, where they were openly trying to rally support for the hostages that are still in the

00:01:59.560 custody of Hamas, and the perpetrator was out there yelling, end Zionists, and death to these Jews,

00:02:08.480 we're supposed to wait to call it terror. He's out there, free, free Palestine, end Zionists,

00:02:14.260 and threatening the children openly. But, you know, it may have just been some sort of civil

00:02:19.140 disobedience. Maybe he didn't like his taxes. I don't remember him calling for that. I don't see

00:02:24.140 anything about taxes or anything other than the evil Zionists in what he was saying. So to me,

00:02:30.380 it seems pretty clear. And thank God to the Trump administration, it seems clear too.

00:02:35.000 We've had absolute moral clarity from Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, no matter how cowardly the locals

00:02:42.580 seem to be. And by the way, Jared Polis, while he didn't call it a terrorist attack,

00:02:47.280 called it an act of terror, which at least is closer. I'm not sure what's wrong with the local

00:02:52.640 cops. To top it all off, the suspect in this case, of course, Cherry on top of the Sunday

00:02:58.520 is here illegally. Of course he is. And he came here, wait for it, during the Biden administration.

00:03:06.740 Now you're starting to sense why the media is not in love with the story. It's got everything.

00:03:12.780 The attack happened yesterday around 3.30 p.m. in Boulder. Since November of 2023, this group of

00:03:19.080 mostly elderly residents, they've been holding a weekly gathering to show solidarity with the

00:03:25.280 Israeli hostages. And by the way, American hostages too, being held captive by Hamas in Gaza.

00:03:31.680 One witness telling MSNBC the suspect might have been posing as a gardener doing yard work before

00:03:38.460 he began his attack.

00:03:40.440 I saw him holding him and looking like he was about to throw it at people. And they looked exactly like

00:03:45.220 what I would think would be a Molotov cocktail. There's also a big tank behind him with like a

00:03:51.440 chemical sprayer. And he had initially an orange vest on. So I had the same impression that somebody

00:03:57.900 else had mentioned earlier that he was posing as someone who was like a gardener or something.

00:04:02.700 And he was lighting people on fire while spraying gasoline on them. Because that's what it, I mean,

00:04:07.860 gasoline is what it smelled like. I thought it initially was alcohol. But I, I assume it was

00:04:12.600 gasoline, which again, stinged the, the pants off of some of the elderly women and the shirt off of

00:04:21.020 women that I can't really, frankly, I can't imagine.

00:04:26.960 You can hear him overcome with emotion. According to the NBC affiliate in Denver, eight people ages 52

00:04:35.020 to 88 were injured, at least one seriously in the attack. 88, 88. By my calculation, that means the

00:04:44.640 person was born in the, what, like 1936, around there. Think about that. Think of what that person

00:04:51.480 has lived through. I mean, I told you that this, this, at least one, I don't know how many 88 year

00:04:57.820 olds there were, but at least one of them is a woman and a Holocaust refugee who fled from Europe to

00:05:03.720 escape the Nazis. Think of what that woman has seen in the course of her life. And now at nearly 90,

00:05:10.260 she's burned in America by a Jew hater, by an anti-Zionist. What, what are we coming to? How

00:05:23.340 does that happen on the streets of Boulder? Of course, one of our most liberal cities. I mean,

00:05:29.920 the guy not for nothing is like setting people on fire in front of a pride flag.

00:05:34.580 In this image here, you see one of the victims. Good Samaritans are surrounding her, trying to pour

00:05:42.140 water on her. Oh, her body next to it is what looks like an Israeli flag. In front of her, you see a

00:05:50.660 flyer with the face of a hostage and a U.S. flag lying on the ground. She was out there to remind people

00:05:58.040 that there are hostages who are suffering. And she was made to suffer herself. The eyewitness also

00:06:05.500 describing the injuries that the victims suffered. This is hard to listen to, but we must in order to

00:06:12.060 understand exactly what this man did. One man probably, if I had to guess, is probably in his

00:06:16.900 like 50s to 60s, uh, just kind of in shock and figuring out what he could do to make himself more

00:06:23.160 comfortable. I mean, his leg from ankle or foot to all the way up to his buttocks was melted.

00:06:30.720 His skin was melted basically off or shaved off his leg. Um, sorry. I've talked about this a bunch

00:06:38.720 in the last couple of hours and I'm not getting it choked up again as I did when I was there. Um,

00:06:44.440 and so there were, there were some deep cuts, uh, in, in a bunch of these people's legs, um,

00:06:49.440 probably an inch, inch in diameter with, you know, blood coming out of them. Uh, this other

00:06:55.560 woman had burns all over her hands, ankles, feet, uh, elbows, they looked stunned, confused.

00:07:00.940 This is just so wrong. The suspect was caught on camera. The video was widely shared on social

00:07:07.460 media. You almost couldn't believe your eyes and watching it. It was, I mean, I sent it to my team,

00:07:12.100 like, is this hit? This is, this happened? This guy, he's still out there, still threatening,

00:07:19.340 still holding what appear to be bottles that are about to become Molotov cocktails,

00:07:23.940 which is basically like a bottle of alcohol or gasoline with some sort of a starter inside of

00:07:28.640 it, like a, like a rag that will catch on fire. And then they light it. Um, I mean, honestly,

00:07:33.000 we just saw this in the Diddy case. There were testimony, there was testimony about how this

00:07:37.700 rapper Kid Cudi, uh, his Porsche was firebombed by a Molotov cocktail. And the fire chief was on

00:07:45.420 stand explaining exactly how it's done and how that one didn't go off to the extent it could have

00:07:50.500 because they used a silk rag instead of, you know, sort of your bargain basement rag and the

00:07:55.820 silk, I guess was less flammable, but it's disturbingly easy for anyone to make one. And

00:08:02.680 apparently this guy made many because when you're going to see him on this, this tape we're about

00:08:07.860 to play for you, he's already unleashed the carnage. This is after he's hurt the people.

00:08:12.780 And what you see here, he, he's threatening more. He's got more bottles that he could potentially

00:08:18.840 throw. And people seem to be coming, maybe they're just new passersby seem to be coming to grips with

00:08:23.200 the fact that this is a very dangerous man and he means business and he should not be approached.

00:08:28.320 He cannot be subdued and get anywhere within the, the, the reach of those bottles. And you could

00:08:34.800 be the next victim. He's shouting. It's hard to hear it's at points, but he is shouting, um,

00:08:40.740 how many people have you killed? And Zionists Palestine is free and they are killers. Watch

00:08:49.720 it. He's shirtless with jeans on. We can't do nothing. We can't. You're not here. You're

00:09:02.140 not here bro. You're not. People are taking video right now. He was wearing an orange suit with

00:09:10.280 like something on his back. He's spraying alcohol too. He's spraying alcohol, but with the

00:09:37.720 So here's what we know now about the suspect. His name is Mohammed Salaman. He's 45. He came

00:09:45.220 to the U.S. from Egypt in 2022 on a non-immigrant visa. He was supposed to leave the U.S. six

00:09:52.300 months later, but he never did. According to Fox's Bill Malusian, about one month after he

00:09:57.780 overstayed his visa, the Biden administration gave him a work authorization to remain in the

00:10:02.720 until March 2025. March came and went of this year, and he remained once again illegally in this

00:10:10.640 country. Stephen Miller, President Trump's deputy chief of staff, said it best on X, writing, quote,

00:10:16.780 no more hostile migration. Suicidal migration must be fully reversed. FBI Director Kash Patel wasted

00:10:25.620 no time calling it a terror attack on X because he has eyes and ears. And a few minutes later,

00:10:32.460 FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino followed up, also calling it terror. Colorado's Democratic

00:10:38.420 governor, again, as I mentioned, called it an act of terror. It's not a particularly controversial

00:10:45.640 thing to say, but Boulder's police chief, nearly three hours after the attack and after that video

00:10:53.460 emerged on social media, still wasn't sure whether we could call it terror and really wasn't sure what

00:11:00.920 the motive was. So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times. We are in contact with

00:11:06.600 them here. We are not calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's way too early to speculate

00:11:10.880 motive. I know there's a lot out there on social media, but I ask people just to give us a little

00:11:15.400 bit of patience while we work through a really complex scene. And of course, that was all some in

00:11:21.420 the national media needed in order to try to downplay this event. Listen to this person on CNN.

00:11:26.960 Her name is Juliette Kayyem. She's CNN's law enforcement analyst. They're using that term

00:11:34.160 very loosely. She worked for the Department of Homeland Security during the Obama administration.

00:11:39.640 It makes the FBI look so juvenile. Like, why are you getting ahead of the police chief who says,

00:11:48.300 I don't know what this is. It sounds maybe it is what we all think it is, but maybe it's not.

00:11:53.680 And he has no incentive to get it wrong. So we're going to take a step back, not be responsive to

00:12:03.060 tweets by two heads of the FBI who don't have a long history in local law enforcement. And we will

00:12:11.360 wait. You're an idiot. And hope it isn't what we all worry it is. And if it is, then there'll be an

00:12:16.820 investigation. But that was that's like nothing I'd ever seen before. And until we know that the

00:12:21.660 victims were members of that organ of the of the Jewish event, we don't have the nexus. And and I

00:12:29.580 will believe the Denver police chief that they do not have that nexus now. And if they do, I will be

00:12:34.920 the first one out here saying that that is a hate crime. But until we do, we all need to to not follow

00:12:42.140 the FBI's tweets. You're an idiot. You're you're a partisan hack idiot. It's juvenile to state what

00:12:51.840 everyone can easily see and hear for themselves. OK, it was death to to Zionists shouting they are

00:13:01.280 killers. How many children have you killed on and on death to Zionists? It seems pretty on the nose.

00:13:09.620 And let's see, did he target a meeting of the NAACP so that we're kind of confused on the motive?

00:13:17.800 No, he targeted a march that has been going on weekly now for years that is in support of the

00:13:25.460 Israeli and American hostages being held by Hamas. Seems kind of on the nose. I wouldn't call it

00:13:33.560 juvenile to respond with this was a terror attack. Joining me now, the EJs, Emily Jashinsky,

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00:14:52.980 Ladies, welcome back. This is just infuriating. She's so pompous in delivering, Eliana. I've never

00:15:02.320 seen anything so juvenile, and these two are idiots, so don't follow their lead. We should just trust the

00:15:08.480 local guy in Boulder. He's got something better up his sleeve. We're unable to understand what

00:15:15.620 death to Zionists mean from way over here in New York and Connecticut and D.C., where Dan and Cash are.

00:15:24.460 Well, it's amazing. I mean, just start with what is a terror attack? It is the targeting of civilians to

00:15:31.040 achieve political aims or to push a government in a particular political direction. And all of us,

00:15:38.500 like with Joe Biden's decline, could see very quickly after this event transpired on the Internet

00:15:46.240 videos of this man shouting his political motives, which were death to Zionists, free Palestine.

00:15:54.880 So it was very clear, as you were saying, that this was an act of terror, as the FBI described it. And I'm not

00:16:02.940 sure where the rule came from, that you need to trust the local authorities over the national

00:16:07.760 authorities. I don't know. It's a very simple rule. I wish you'd pay attention. It kicks in when the

00:16:15.080 victims are Jewish. And no, I think that's the end of my list. That's when it kicks in.

00:16:21.520 I mean, but I will say the press last night was pretty quick to pick up on the guys out there

00:16:30.160 chanting death to Zionists and, you know, kill all the Jews, basically. And and the media in reports

00:16:38.900 in The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal and elsewhere is saying the motive has yet to be

00:16:43.740 determined. Like, yeah, we may never know why the guy did this. I may never know. By the way,

00:16:49.200 a couple of weeks ago when that young couple was gunned down outside of the Jewish professionals

00:16:54.140 event shouted, free Palestine. And we got the same. You know, police are still trying to discover,

00:17:01.020 you know, what the guy's motive was. It's total mystery.

00:17:05.060 And we got the same after they firebombed the governor's mansion, Emily, in Pennsylvania,

00:17:10.420 a Jewish governor. And once again, the guy was shouting anti-Semitic things and saying he was

00:17:16.320 saying clearly he was firebombing the governor's mansion because he was upset about Josh Shapiro's

00:17:21.360 stance on Israel. Like the only when it comes to Israel and Jews is the media really confused.

00:17:28.020 Like we got to slow roll this. Not sure what the motivation actually was. It's plain as the nose on

00:17:34.280 your face. Why do we need months of investigation when the person is saying, please believe me,

00:17:39.380 I'm upset about these, quote, Zionists. It's happened in cases of radical Islamists as well.

00:17:46.060 You suddenly get a pause from the media and there has to be a deep period of reflection before we know

00:17:50.640 what happens. And in this case, I mean, the video circulated immediately, immediately. And I

00:17:57.260 checked the timestamp of that CNN video that just rolled with the analyst. It was like 6 p.m. East

00:18:03.600 Coast time. Give me a break. The video had been everywhere. That was somebody who was blinded by

00:18:09.100 their deep hatred of Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, who's looking at any excuse to call them juvenile,

00:18:15.840 basically. And to be honest, I have a big question for the police chief, which is wired for the local

00:18:21.000 law enforcement, which is why in the hell is that man walking around without a shirt on, not being

00:18:28.080 first of all, you're not protecting people who are marching for the hostages. This is a politically

00:18:33.780 charged environment. They do it every week. Secondly, why is that guy not being arrested?

00:18:40.560 Why is there so much subdued? Yeah, there's I mean, I would say, you know, if there were able bodied

00:18:45.640 men in the crowd, why aren't they tackling him to the ground? But why is he walking around for such a

00:18:51.160 long period of time? Why are people in a politically charged atmosphere not being protected? And then why

00:18:56.380 for the federal government is a guy who is overstaying his visa being allowed to walk the streets like

00:19:02.920 this? And obviously, you know, you have to there's so many people that came into the country under the

00:19:08.140 Biden administration. It takes time to track people down and define people. But this is just I mean,

00:19:14.120 if you're a taxpayer in Boulder, my God, how infuriating. Yeah. I mean, look what they're

00:19:20.240 making the federal government go through to deport actual alleged killers and drug dealers and wife

00:19:28.380 beaters and traffickers. This guy who just overstayed the visa and hates Jews like he's going to be down

00:19:35.320 the list. We've got more terrible fish to fry before we get to this guy. But under Joe Biden,

00:19:43.220 they were all welcome. That's fine. Open. It's an open door policy. Welcome. Or his auto pen. One of

00:19:47.620 them really wanted all these terrible, terrible people in our country. And now they are. Here is

00:19:52.860 former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe reacting to the news the other day or yesterday. Watch.

00:20:01.120 This is the sort of thing that the FBI really can help out the local police department with providing

00:20:06.740 manpower, technology and resources to do that sort of work. That's what the FBI does. We don't step in

00:20:13.820 and take over and draw conclusions five minutes after the attack about what happened. We reach out to the

00:20:19.860 local authorities. We provide people and we offer assistance in any way that we can. The bureau is

00:20:25.860 there to help the first responders. Thank you so much to both of you. One thing we know for sure,

00:20:31.740 you know, certainly thinking about these victims and their families, a truly horrific thing that

00:20:37.660 has happened to them as we await. So no correction by the anchor. She doesn't care. She's totally fine

00:20:43.040 with what the panelist said. He was on with that Juliette Kayyem. The FBI has no role in in designating

00:20:50.740 something a terror attack, Eliana, that really they're just there in a supportive role and should

00:20:56.700 let the locals label something terror. That's terror. Well, to take a step back, you mentioned the these

00:21:06.120 two other attacks, Megan, starting in April with the firebombing of Governor Josh Shapiro's mansion in

00:21:13.020 Pennsylvania by an assailant who said that he did this to free Palestine. And then a couple of weeks

00:21:21.300 ago, the young couple gunned down in the middle of Washington, D.C. And then yesterday, this incident

00:21:27.300 in Boulder, Colorado, we do appear to have an epidemic of political violence linked to this particular

00:21:35.440 cause. And that would seem, given that it's happening, playing out across the country and

00:21:43.540 people are getting killed, maimed, hurt. This would seem to be a topic of particular interest for

00:21:51.940 federal authorities. This is a real issue now. Across the state lines. Yeah. Not only that, but it's

00:22:02.000 like you look back at, you know, Emily raises the issue of radical Islam. Well, when we saw

00:22:06.960 ISIS inspired attacks popping up across America and in various states, that wasn't just a local issue

00:22:15.260 for the folks down in Orlando to deal with, for example. Of course, the FBI was involved. They

00:22:20.300 need to know. I mean, Joe Biden's FBI that both of these two defended and one of whom was part of it

00:22:27.880 wanted to investigate fucking parents at school board meetings, Emily, for going over their time

00:22:35.240 when they had the microphones to object to some of the COVID lockdowns. That is not an exaggeration,

00:22:41.500 that it was literally one of the incidents that was cited by the FBI to justify its interference

00:22:47.420 in these school board meetings. So it's only now that we see a guy burning 88-year-olds saying

00:22:54.260 exactly why he did it, that they're saying, you know, a bit of caution. Let's just let the locals

00:22:59.080 take the lead. Well, and also, I mean, Andy McKay, but give me a break. The FBI was surveilling

00:23:05.720 parishes that were doing Latin mass, like within the last five years. And he's defended the FBI the

00:23:11.180 entire time. And also, they're not being, the FBI is not being asked to convict anybody of being a

00:23:19.380 terrorist, just to say that we are investigating terrorism. When you immediately have a video of

00:23:25.220 somebody explicitly saying this is political, there's absolutely nothing wrong with saying we are

00:23:30.500 investigating terrorism. This looks like terrorism. So to actually take issue with Kash Patel and Dan

00:23:37.960 Bongino for, like, going and saying that they're investigating somebody is plain as day. Like, I came out

00:23:44.280 there and said that. Do they have any indications that he was being forced to say that or that he said

00:23:48.120 that for some reason? Other than that, it's his sincerely held belief because he was shouting

00:23:52.120 it shirtless in the streets of Boulder while he was committing violence. I mean, it's just so stupid.

00:23:57.100 It's such a silly, silly thing to say on TV. It's just, they'll, the left-wing press will run,

00:24:02.740 they'll use that word terror if it's a white on black crime. They will. They'll be quick to inflame

00:24:08.400 all of the rhetoric around the crime and have absolutely no compunction about doing it. But when we

00:24:14.840 know it's staring us in the face, they won't say it. They won't do it. They won't call it a hate crime

00:24:20.140 unless those are the stats. Right now, I mean, I don't know why this isn't the lead on virtually

00:24:25.640 every paper in the country. This is a reading here from the New York Post published this morning.

00:24:31.780 The headline, six migrants charged in South Carolina mom's murder detailed their crime in eerie text

00:24:40.260 messages. Just the beginning. Six illegal immigrants. The headline says migrants. We're

00:24:46.220 talking about illegals. Six of them. Ages 13 through 21 have been charged in connection with

00:24:52.940 the South Carolina mother's quote, random murder earlier this month. And they allegedly texted each

00:24:59.300 other about the crime afterward. The Lancaster County Sheriff's office down there located the victim,

00:25:05.180 Larisha Shirell Thompson, 40 years old, deceased with a gunshot wound behind the wheel of her vehicle

00:25:12.080 in Lancaster, which is about an hour South of Charlotte, North Carolina. It happened on May 12th

00:25:17.700 that they announced the arrest of, I'm not even gonna try to say these names, but there was a 21 year

00:25:23.060 old, an 18 year old, a 17 year old, and three juveniles ages 13, 14, and 15 in connection with her

00:25:30.320 death. Here are three of them. They're illegals. They are here unlawfully committing crimes against

00:25:38.400 American mothers, including this 40 year old. Um, they said the, the six district deputy solicitor,

00:25:46.800 Melissa McGinnis, again, quoting here from the post, New York post said all six suspects charged

00:25:51.900 admitted to robbing a car during a May 14th hearing as first reported by the Rock Hill Herald

00:25:58.080 and text messages allegedly exchanged between them. After the murder, they use phrases mission fail.

00:26:04.360 And this is just the beginning. Uh, the text messages have been cited in open court and cite a

00:26:10.060 complete lack of remorse by the defendants said the attorney general, Charlie Condon. The evidence

00:26:15.620 indicates a premeditated plan after the murder was accomplished. There was no remorse whatsoever or any

00:26:22.980 regret expressed by any of them for murdering this innocent lady. So they killed her because I don't

00:26:31.440 know if they wanted her car or they wanted what was in her car. And then they realized that the car was

00:26:36.740 locked and seemed to be like, Oh shit, our plan went awry. Her car is locked. She's dead. And now we

00:26:43.940 can't get what we want. The depravity is shocking. I mean, it's shocking. That's six, not one, not two,

00:26:52.140 not six individuals will partake in this crime. And not one of them seems even remotely remorseful.

00:26:57.940 And I'm telling you, Emily, if those were six white American boys, same decedent, this story would be

00:27:07.860 everywhere. Hmm. Yeah, that's right. And, uh, the other part of this, that's just, it makes me crazy

00:27:15.480 is when the pro immigrant groups, libertarian and left wing will always regurgitate, and this is

00:27:22.520 disputed, but they will always regurgitate, uh, their research that, uh, migrants to the country

00:27:28.460 commit crimes at lower levels than the domestic population. I don't even want to get into whether

00:27:33.500 or not that things, whether or not that point is true. The, uh, only response to that is like,

00:27:38.180 let's, let's take you at your word for it. Immigration advocates, open borders advocates

00:27:42.420 say that is true. You are bringing in desperate people who are destitute, do not have a lot of

00:27:49.980 money and are trying to find new ways to have money, to buy all kinds of different things.

00:27:55.660 They need to survive, whether it's food or whether it's drugs, by the way. And of course,

00:27:59.580 every single act committed against an American citizen by somebody who is not supposed to be here

00:28:05.880 is too damn many. So it doesn't even met, like take you at your word for it. Why would we,

00:28:12.000 we have enough problems. Why do we need to deal with more problems caused by people who do not need

00:28:18.420 to be here, who are desperate and are looking for different ways to survive because they don't have

00:28:24.220 any money. I mean, it's just, and a lot of them are in debt to cartels. That's part of the last

00:28:28.700 five years of mass immigration explosion is a lot of people come here. Uh, they pay cartels or they

00:28:35.740 go into debt for cartels and then are forced to do all kinds of stuff to get that money back to pay

00:28:41.660 off their debt. So their relatives at home aren't killed so that something doesn't happen to them

00:28:44.880 domestically. Just such an insane, I mean, it's so maddening what that woman's family is going

00:28:50.020 through. She was on her way to a birthday party with the community is going through. I mean,

00:28:54.180 it's a disaster. She has two children, two kids, Eliana, and these are six illegals from Honduras

00:29:03.980 who were not only completely indifferent to the value of human life, but too fucking dumb to walk

00:29:10.940 around the rest of us, uh, on free and able to interact with us. They are accused of attempting to

00:29:16.980 enter her vehicle and then fleeing the scene upon realizing it was locked. That's why they were

00:29:23.620 texting omission fail. Okay. So a young woman is dead and bleeding out in front of us and what a

00:29:30.380 fail. We couldn't get her car after all, because I guess this is how the illegals roll in Honduras.

00:29:36.920 I wouldn't know. It's not a country to which I'd like to visit. Um, but they're running around

00:29:42.360 amongst us. And now the ringleader we find out is, um, was previously arrested just in 2023 for

00:29:50.060 domestic violence, which is another theme we see emerging around these illegals who do not have the

00:29:56.660 same standard of care when it comes to human life as your average American does. And yet we are spending

00:30:05.660 every day arguing about what kind of hearing we need to give them before we kick their asses out of

00:30:11.280 here. Can I just point out one similarity between this case and the Solomon case? Um, we don't know

00:30:24.420 all the facts of that case yet, but he's actually been charged with two counts of murder, even though

00:30:29.260 nobody died in Denver. And those two counts are now a mystery. So we may learn, uh, although we don't

00:30:36.640 know that he too had a prior law enforcement, uh, record and was let go. We just don't know. Um, but,

00:30:46.120 but that's what I'm seeing in reports, um, that say they also, the reports also don't know what that's

00:30:52.720 about. Um, but Megan, I think you're hitting on why illegal immigration and these deportations have been

00:31:00.840 such a potent issue for the president because Americans read about cases like this and it's not

00:31:08.140 in this case, it's not one assailant, but six who are here illegally. And the feeling is just outrage.

00:31:16.140 And, um, when Democrats come with the fact that, well, actually on average, illegal immigrants, uh,

00:31:24.220 commit less crime than the average citizen, that just doesn't resonate as a counter argument because

00:31:29.840 the feeling is that any single act committed shouldn't have been because these people shouldn't

00:31:36.260 have been in the country in the first place. And it's why names like Lake and Riley, um, become

00:31:41.300 famous from coast to coast in this country and why the, why the issue of immigration, um, has become

00:31:50.000 such a potent one for Donald Trump from 2016 through, you know, we're going on almost a decade,

00:31:56.980 six months. It'll be a decade because people are exactly right. So I, I have got to, I've got to

00:32:03.500 play for you, Chris Cuomo, who I'm sorry, he's trying to reinvent himself as like a more reasonable

00:32:09.160 alternative to what he used to be. He's the same. He's the same. He's just trying to build an audience

00:32:13.840 now with some occasional false moments of understanding the right wing. But this guy, I stood out there for

00:32:21.300 president Trump and endorsed him the night before the election in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And I

00:32:26.520 said, because Trump was getting hit because he said he would be a protector of women and the Chris

00:32:31.960 Cuomo's of the world, his side of the aisle jumped all over Trump saying he was being some, somehow

00:32:37.260 sexist in, in saying that and bringing up his past history with women when it comes to affairs and

00:32:44.760 alleged inappropriate exchanges sexually. Um, and I stood up there and said what I believed,

00:32:51.480 which was that he really would be a protector of women. And I mentioned Jocelyn Nungari, the little

00:32:56.640 girl down in Texas, 12 years old, who was sexually assaulted and murdered by illegals. And I, I mentioned

00:33:02.900 Lake and Riley. And I, I said among many other examples that these are reasons I believe president

00:33:08.300 Trump will protect young women. He won't allow the opening of the border and mass influx of

00:33:14.180 dangerous illegals who will kill and rape the most vulnerable among us. Our girls are young,

00:33:20.980 promising nursing students who only want to give back to communities like Lakin. And you know what

00:33:26.700 Chris Cuomo did that night? Not only did he not take the remarks, which went live on all the cable

00:33:31.420 channels. When I spoke at the Trump rally, he insisted news nation, not take the remarks. And then he

00:33:36.420 mocked the remarks. He mocked them. He mocked me. Oh, I need president Trump to protect me as though it was

00:33:43.140 something about me as opposed to a 12 year old little girl who is dead in Texas or a girl who

00:33:52.160 was 22 years old in Georgia, who was killed by an illegal, who we already nabbed in New York and

00:33:58.660 then released and then put on a federally taxpayer funded plane down to Georgia where he could kill

00:34:04.620 Lake and Riley. And so I'm sick of this guy's bullshit. So Chris Cuomo goes on the air Thursday

00:34:12.480 on his podcast, which literally nobody's listening to other than my producers and says this about

00:34:19.940 Lake and Riley and illegal immigration. Change how I feel about the parties. They are the problem.

00:34:25.920 They are the root of this binary battle to the bottom. The division is almost exclusively

00:34:33.260 manufactured. We are fighting over culture issues and controversies that are completely

00:34:39.340 made up. We divide this country over a single homicide of somebody. And it's absolutely wrong.

00:34:48.020 What happened to Lake and Riley is horrible. It's one too many. Anyway, you want to look at it,

00:34:52.460 but it is also an artificial issue. We have crime issues in this country.

00:35:01.560 Our homicide problem is not from illegal immigrants. Okay. Yeah, but there shouldn't be any. There

00:35:08.020 shouldn't be any of a lot of things that we haven't made a top priority. The division is manufactured.

00:35:14.940 Oh, go ahead, Emily, but he can screw off because it's absolutely not fake. If you look at the numbers

00:35:23.840 of people who cross into this country with criminal backgrounds that are not just, uh, people who have

00:35:30.040 crossed the crime of crossing the country illegally in return. If you look at people with histories of

00:35:34.240 violent crime who have gotten into this country, there is plenty to sustain significant concern for

00:35:41.200 that broader narrative that there are, uh, significant numbers of criminals who have entered

00:35:45.960 our border. And if you talked about the way, people who work in, in law enforcement, um, this it's,

00:35:51.520 it's sort of obvious, right. That the open borders have been exploited, uh, by people who wish to do

00:35:57.580 terror, people who wish to, uh, do great harm to the American people. So there's an argument,

00:36:03.360 right. That there are times that, uh, bad actors in the media will take an anecdote and blow it up

00:36:09.200 into a national story. One example is when you pull people, uh, in the past, when people have

00:36:14.040 been pulled and said, how many unarmed black men are killed by police every year because of the media

00:36:19.700 coverage, people will wildly overestimate the actual number. And so it's true that like media is

00:36:25.660 very, very powerful. Uh, but on average, by the way, on average is under 12, according to the

00:36:30.540 Washington post running tally of it, it's, it's 11, 12, maybe 15 at worst. And they include unarmed

00:36:35.920 people who are running down a police officer in a car, people who have a gun in the glove

00:36:41.740 compartment. You're, you're still considered unarmed by the Washington post numbers, but in

00:36:46.020 any event, it's a minuscule number of unarmed black men that are being shot by cops. Keep going.

00:36:51.260 Right. And no, and the argument he's making is that people are blowing up isolated anecdotes into

00:36:55.600 broader narratives. And in this case to say that these are isolated anecdotes, it's absolutely insane.

00:37:00.080 It's where you're actually, you can get that number spiraling out of control because it falsely,

00:37:04.940 uh, gives people a sense of security that they should not have, whether it's terrorism

00:37:09.660 or robbery. Uh, the thing that the thing that's driving me nuts about, I'll stay with you on this,

00:37:15.180 Emily. The thing that's driving me fucking nuts about this point is there is no policy that allows

00:37:22.840 cops to shoot unarmed black men. This is not something that's being encouraged or blessed

00:37:29.820 in any city in America, but there is a policy in multiple cities and States across America.

00:37:37.420 It's called sanctuary to allow illegals who commit additional crimes, not to be turned over to the

00:37:45.040 feds for deportation once they're in the crosshairs. And maybe that's what's happening, Eliana to this

00:37:50.560 guy, Solomon, whatever his name is out in Colorado. Maybe that's why the two murders just popped up

00:37:55.420 because maybe he was arrested for something else. And they didn't turn him over to the feds because

00:37:59.260 they found he was an illegal and didn't want to see him deported by the big, bad, evil Trump

00:38:03.500 administration. But the, this is what happened to Lincoln Riley. What happened to Jocelyn Nungari?

00:38:09.260 What's what happened out in Colorado? What happened to this poor woman here happened because of a policy

00:38:15.020 that the, that Joe Biden put in place and the Democrats universally wanted Emily,

00:38:21.420 which is to open the borders, irrespective of not knowing who the hell was coming in.

00:38:28.260 And defended repeatedly. And I think it gets even worse when you consider that, uh, Democrats,

00:38:33.640 part of them were so, some of them were just so cowardly and so reflexively anti-Trump that even

00:38:40.480 policies that you looked like Obama era, you know, when he was called by the left, the deporter in chief,

00:38:46.740 uh, even policies that looked like that, they had to be reflexively aggressively against and to say,

00:38:52.200 not only were these, you know, by their phrases cruel, but they were also necessarily rooted in

00:38:56.920 bigotry. That is the reason that Joe Biden came into office, thought he was reading the mood of the

00:39:02.220 electorate because it had been artificially, um, I guess, it had artificially been represented by the

00:39:07.580 media, which was completely out to lunch, uh, completely also in the same camp as many of those

00:39:12.280 Democrats were way too afraid to say anything that might make it look like they were agreeing with or

00:39:17.320 empowering, enabling Donald Trump. And it was that cowardice and stupidity and incompetence from the

00:39:23.260 media and Democrats. Democrats suddenly signed on to the Lake and Riley act after Donald Trump won the

00:39:29.180 election. I mean, it's just galling. They, they put, they put themselves in this situation. They put the

00:39:33.980 American people in this situation because they were too afraid the media too, by the way, to repeatedly

00:39:38.740 cover the story with the, the level of importance that it deserved. Here's Eliana to your point that

00:39:44.180 you just made. Um, I was on Bill Maher about three weeks before I did that thing with Trump. I was on

00:39:50.620 Bill Maher and we had a debate about illegal immigration and he raised the point you just raised

00:39:57.940 about, you know, well, you'll see, watch, here it is. Here's part of it. Look, you, you want to know

00:40:04.960 why I'm going to vote for him, notwithstanding what you said. And I'll give you a couple of good

00:40:08.620 reasons off the top of my head. Number one, what's happened with illegal immigration? I'm voting for

00:40:13.840 him because I don't want any more Lake and Riley's. I don't want any more Jocelyn Nungaros, the 12 year

00:40:19.380 old girl who was killed in Houston by two Venezuelan illegal immigrants who took her to a bridge and

00:40:25.100 murdered her and threw her over, over the bridge. And Americans have ever done that? That's not the

00:40:30.120 point. We have to take the Americans. We don't have to take it from Venezuelan illegals. That's it.

00:40:39.000 A hundred percent. Um, but can I just say, I think you guys are being a little unfair to Joe Biden,

00:40:43.880 blaming this on him. Um, not sure. He actually made the decision after reading the Tapper Thompson book.

00:40:51.160 And, uh, you know, so maybe we should, maybe, maybe we should say Ron Klain. Um, but anyway,

00:40:57.380 exactly. Dr. It might be, it might be Dr. Jill. We should really hold on the hook. Yeah. Uh, for

00:41:04.880 these, uh, for these open door immigration policies, but you know what they, Bill Maher or,

00:41:10.580 and Chris Cuomo and all of them, like keep on that argument, guys, keep, keep it up. Cause it is a

00:41:19.260 loser. Uh, the American people aren't buying it and they're outraged by all of this stuff. And by the

00:41:26.760 way, I mean, Boulder is a sanctuary city, so we don't know the full story of, uh, Muhammad Suleiman

00:41:32.180 when he got there, why he was there, but, um, they are reaping what they're sowing with this.

00:41:39.660 Yeah, exactly. Right. Let me read you, uh, Eliana, what just came in. Trump just sent out a truth

00:41:44.560 social about Boulder. Yesterday's horrific attack in Boulder, Colorado will not be tolerated in the

00:41:49.720 United States of America. He came in through Biden's ridiculous open border policy, which has hurt our

00:41:54.700 country so badly. He must go out under Trump policy. Acts of terrorism will be prosecuted to

00:42:00.680 the fullest extent of the law. This is yet another example of why we must keep our borders secure

00:42:05.420 and deport illegal anti-American radicals from our homeland. My heart goes out to the victims of this

00:42:12.000 terrible tragedy and the great people of Boulder, Colorado. It's, it's interesting. So Trump is coming

00:42:19.700 in and going out on the illegal immigration aspect of this. And that's obviously one of the main

00:42:25.820 things. Trump has also been amazing. I'm trying to crack down on anti-Semitism where it exists on

00:42:31.680 college campuses, which we haven't even talked to, but I mean, there hasn't been Joe Biden did nothing.

00:42:37.280 He did nothing to try to stop the harassment of Jews on college campuses. President Trump, who for

00:42:44.900 some reason American Jews still don't vote for him, they still vote Democrat, even though he's done

00:42:50.320 more than any sitting president for the Jewish people. But he's out there. He's been battling on

00:42:55.580 that front. He's been battling the illegal immigration front. And you tell me, Eliana, what's going to

00:43:00.320 happen now with these numbers? Because Trump was winning on illegal immigration, both yes, on November

00:43:04.680 4th, but for virtually every day thereafter, up until very recently, where the numbers started to wobble

00:43:10.440 a little, a little, only a little. But these kinds of cases are a stark reminder of the stakes,

00:43:18.140 the stakes that this debate is about the open border policies. Yes, but also the deportations.

00:43:26.580 Right. And let me say dreaded words, which are, let me just make one point before, before I get to

00:43:31.740 that, which is that there's a connection between what's happened on college campuses over the past,

00:43:36.860 you know, since October 7th, 2023. And these events in our cities, which is that for a year and a half,

00:43:44.620 we've seen lawlessness and chaos on our college campuses targeted at Jewish students, including

00:43:51.460 acts of violence, the storming of buildings, the breaking of windows, the breaking of laws,

00:43:57.760 without much consequence. We've had police presence on campuses required students arrested,

00:44:06.020 and then they're brought into court and they're let off. Virtually none of them have been sanctioned

00:44:12.020 in any meaningful way. And I think that sent a message to these political activists, in this case,

00:44:20.280 students, but also some adult outside activists, that they can target Jews and pro-Israel activists

00:44:27.980 and with impunity. And that message has clearly been received by outsiders who are now taking that

00:44:35.240 sort of behavior and targeting people. In the case of the D.C. couple, these people were just out of

00:44:41.980 college, 26 and 30 years old, and now older people. But we see a direct line of political violence

00:44:49.320 from our college campuses, more petty type violence, but extremely disruptive, where graduation ceremonies

00:44:56.800 and in Columbia's case, the end of the school year was canceled, to violence in American cities

00:45:06.220 targeting political figures and civilians. And that's because the message has been sent that you

00:45:11.920 will pay no consequences. And so I think it's incumbent now on the federal government to send the message

00:45:17.860 that they're going to enforce the laws and the perpetrators will pay consequences.

00:45:24.300 The sanctuary city thing is huge. Trump has been trying to press past it. Emily, he'll send Tom

00:45:32.860 Homan into any city. And Tom Homan has been saying, you want to be a so-called sanctuary for illegals?

00:45:38.140 That's just, it's going to make it harder for us, but it's not going to stop us. You know, it's going to

00:45:41.780 make it more painful for your entire community when we get there, because you're not going to cooperate.

00:45:45.680 It could get ugly. You know, you're not going to like what you're going to see. Well, they went

00:45:49.260 to Martha's Vineyard, Martha's Vineyard, where Ron DeSantis sent a busload of illegal immigrants,

00:45:54.800 and they said, oh, fine, fine, fine. And they shipped them out of there. And under, what,

00:45:59.080 48 hours? It was like 30 hours, something like that, that they got rid of them. And then you had

00:46:02.680 these woke leftist women coming out saying, we missed them. We're going to go visit them at the

00:46:08.380 detention facility to which they had them shipped. Oh, I'm sure. You're really sad.

00:46:13.120 Well, now they're doing the same song and dance as the residents there are really sad. They're super

00:46:17.820 sad and angry that ICE had the nerve to come into their community and arrest 40 illegals. Listen to

00:46:23.560 this, stop 25. I think it could be any of us next. Martha's Vineyard resident, Jane Catch,

00:46:30.060 held a sign yesterday at the Vineyard Haven terminal warning visitors. The island has a history of

00:46:36.060 supporting people who are different, supporting immigrants. Everyone in this country is entitled

00:46:43.400 to due process, whether they have paperwork or they don't.

00:46:50.340 So they have a history of supporting the immigrants for like a good 24, 25 hours, Emily,

00:46:56.820 until they become kind of annoying and start marring the coastline and then they have to go.

00:47:01.160 Well, the thing is, Megan, they didn't have room. They did not have enough room. There's much more

00:47:06.660 room in New York City, here in Washington, D.C., you know, much less crowded places than Martha's

00:47:12.200 Vineyard. You know what? Listen, is she right about due process? Of course. But in these cases,

00:47:17.580 time after time, we see there's so much due process involved. Not all of them. There's some

00:47:22.300 cases where I've had an issue with the way that the Trump administration has handled them. But

00:47:25.160 in many of these cases, the migrants have been given an abundance of process over all of this.

00:47:32.560 And then in the case of like Lake and Raleigh, for example, you have somebody who ends up

00:47:35.740 reoffending. And, you know, sanctuary cities, sanctuary jurisdictions are the least humane places

00:47:41.040 in the country when it comes to immigration enforcement, because what you have is this desperate

00:47:46.900 and tragic sort of subsection of society, the shadow society, where people get they're incredibly

00:47:55.820 desperate. They are afraid, for example, to report cases of domestic abuse, which is something we've

00:48:01.720 seen come up in these high profile cases. And they live in fear. They live with uncertainty and

00:48:08.940 precarity in some cases for years and years, in some cases for decades, which if we're just sticking

00:48:14.280 on this from the perspective of the migrant communities is completely inhumane, even though

00:48:18.740 the most the people who say that they're the most humane in the world, like I think her name

00:48:22.460 was Jane in that clip, that's what they want to subject people to. But secondly, for the taxpaying

00:48:27.300 citizens that sustain the police forces, the law enforcement that then has to deal with this,

00:48:32.260 that have to deal with the taxpaying citizens who have to deal with the housing increase,

00:48:36.260 housing price increases, with all of the downstream, with paying for the social safety net,

00:48:41.380 with paying for the money that goes to the NGOs. I mean, it's inhumane across the board. And we've

00:48:46.820 been told for years to say that it's actually inhumane to oppose those policies. It's insane.

00:48:51.940 It's insane. And I think the lie has finally become apparent. Yeah, you're exactly right.

00:48:57.220 I think we do have time for sat 26. Let's play it. This is from 2022. Martha's Vineyard.

00:49:03.500 The difficult challenges are, we have, at some point in time, they have to move from here

00:49:12.620 to somewhere else, right? We cannot, we don't have the services to take care of 50 immigrants.

00:49:20.580 50. We certainly don't have housing. We're in a housing crisis as we are on this island.

00:49:25.120 And so we don't, we can't house everyone here that lives here and works here.

00:49:30.340 We don't have housing for 50 more people. But they need to stay, but just not, not here,

00:49:36.700 but they, they definitely need to stay. That's the, that's the bottom line, Emily.

00:49:41.540 Oh yeah. No, there's just not enough room. There's not enough room. Send them to Brooklyn

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00:50:58.200 this topic. I just want to hit a couple of other things. Uh, Jamie Dimon, uh, the head of, uh, JP

00:51:08.200 Morgan was out there, uh, over the past couple of days. It was Friday actually at the Reagan library

00:51:13.200 talking like a Republican. Listen here. We have to acknowledge the grievances that have put us in

00:51:19.580 this position to start with, uh, and they're real. Okay. Immigration. What the hell are we doing?

00:51:24.500 You know, uh, the, the 20, but the bomb 20% of our population, you know, their wages didn't go up

00:51:29.520 for 20 years. They're dying seven years younger. You know, when, when administrations, you know,

00:51:34.740 the Biden administration is giving all this money to EVs and cars and wasting a lot of money on green

00:51:39.860 stuff, which isn't going to work. Uh, and all that, do you think people in rural cities, do you think

00:51:44.840 people in inner cities thought they were getting anything? Do they, do they, do you think that

00:51:49.000 those people think that are the American government is fair and competent and that this was in their

00:51:52.960 best interest? Their schools don't work. They're not getting the skills they need. And you heard

00:51:56.440 that, uh, uh, just now. So we've got to acknowledge that I, and I also call it blue tape because,

00:52:02.340 you know, Republicans, you generally don't like red tape. You understand the devastation of it,

00:52:06.860 but you know, most Democrats, they love it. They want more of it and they want to make it so

00:52:11.140 confusing. You can't even meet the rules. So you get punished and fined afterwards.

00:52:14.620 Whoa, Eliana. Uh, he sounds like, um, who's that guy? Oh, Donald Trump. That's who he sounds like.

00:52:24.460 Come in. The water's warm, Jamie. Uh, you know, it's not, it's not the first time, uh, though,

00:52:31.060 uh, the, you recall, you may have covered, you probably covered it on your show, Megan,

00:52:36.240 when he talked about coming back to the office from COVID, um, and said, yes, seven, seven freaking

00:52:43.520 days a week, everybody needs to come back. Um, but frankly, I have to say, um, what he

00:52:50.580 sounded like in that clip was simply speaking common sense. And that's why I actually think

00:52:59.440 Trump's message resonated with so many people and the Democrats message of, I mean, they didn't really

00:53:06.280 have a message on immigration at all, um, is why they lost the election. And so many of their messages,

00:53:14.000 um, simply were out of touch with regular people. Um, I wouldn't say that what Jamie Dimon just said

00:53:20.820 was some, uh, you know, particularly Republican message that we need to have a sensible immigration

00:53:26.940 policy. Um, and that helped the bottom 20%. Yeah. Elect, he mentioned electric vehicles. Um,

00:53:35.380 the Biden administration used billions of dollars ported into EVs and then built five charging stations.

00:53:42.440 So nobody saw anything come of that money. But I think, look in their defense, they tried to solve

00:53:50.820 their feet on that by ruining Tesla. So you can't be so hard on them. They, they, they came up with a

00:53:56.640 solution to their own problem. They would just destroy their least favorite EV company. Um, totally

00:54:02.380 like people have voted with their feet on, on gas powered cars for now and seem to be fairly happy

00:54:08.980 with that. And using the, um, using the federal government to try and try and push them in a

00:54:15.680 different direction fecklessly because they spent the money on nothing, um, with the green new deal

00:54:21.820 wasn't particularly effective. So he's talking like basically a common sense business guy.

00:54:29.180 And that's actually the reason Republicans won, um, is what he said was sensible.

00:54:34.860 He's also keeping his DEI and ESG programs at JP Morgan, uh, quietly in the background,

00:54:40.280 which is also fairly amusing because I don't think he understands exactly how the, uh,

00:54:45.420 the trickle down effect of that goes to making some of these problems a lot worse, right?

00:54:50.880 His bank has been part of the problem. There is no question. I know plenty of people at all these

00:54:55.780 big banks and they talk to me, they won't say it in front of a microphone, but they all talk to me

00:55:00.520 and tell me exactly what's happening. And JP Morgan is part of the problem when it comes to DEI

00:55:04.880 and breaking the law, breaking the law. It's illegal to hire or fire somebody based on the color of their

00:55:12.500 skin. It can't be a factor. It can't be the factor. And if you think your company is doing

00:55:18.480 that, you should report them because it's illegal. You should sue them. Here is why that this,

00:55:26.300 all the issues we've been discussing and some outlined by Jamie Dimon there. Um, I think this

00:55:31.760 latest poll by CNN, which we highlighted on AM update today shows the following among all Americans,

00:55:39.200 the party that has strong leaders, only 16% of Americans say the Democrats have strong leaders,

00:55:48.200 16, 40% of Americans say the GOP has strong leaders. Uh, the party that gets things done

00:55:56.380 only 19% say it's the Democrats double that say it's the GOP among Democrats only just polling Democrats.

00:56:04.980 Now, how many of you would describe your own party as having strong leaders? 32% to Republicans. How

00:56:11.960 many of you would describe your party as having a strong leader? 82%. Think of that 82%. There is a

00:56:20.900 50 percentage point difference between the two parties on strong leaders. That means the Democrats

00:56:27.460 have no one, um, party that gets things done. Uh, let's see among Democrats at saying, does your

00:56:36.400 party get things done? If only 41% said, yes, my party gets things done. Republicans, almost 80%,

00:56:42.220 77% say our party gets shit done. We're, we're good. Uh, and independents seem unhappy with everybody.

00:56:48.660 Not surprisingly. So this is, this doesn't spell good news for team blue, Emily, and no one is

00:56:55.760 surprised to see this because they've been in complete disarray and just keep recirculating

00:56:59.820 clips of Jasmine Crockett. Yeah, that should do it. Uh, well, the one thing that Joe Biden and

00:57:07.340 Donald Trump and the Biden allies and the Trump allies agree on is actually that Joe Biden was able

00:57:12.460 to do a lot in a short span of time. He had some signature, he had some signature legislative

00:57:17.800 accomplishments that makes this even more of a disaster for Democrats. When you think about the

00:57:23.120 fact that they just passed several massive pieces of legislation, which I would argue contributed

00:57:28.580 significantly to inflation. Uh, but nevertheless, they are still very proud of that record. So they

00:57:34.040 passed these big bills. This is massive spending and industrial policy basically. And yet everyone's

00:57:40.980 looking around and saying they, the Republicans are the ones that get things done. I mean, that is

00:57:45.900 an incredible disaster for Democrats because even if I disagree with them, they definitely did shit

00:57:53.200 during the Biden administration. Just a whole lot of it was fairly destructive. So I can't like, I mean,

00:57:58.840 I don't understand how you, how you come out of those four years with these numbers. That's horrible.

00:58:03.760 To the point Eliana was making later, you know, I, maybe they're being too hard on Joe Biden because,

00:58:08.880 you know, like, I'm not sure he, he, his auto pen seemed to have been very strong. His wife seems

00:58:16.260 extremely strong, very unlikable, but very strong. Um, and I would say Joe Biden himself would take issue

00:58:22.400 with him not being counted as a strong leader. He was asked some questions at a Memorial Day event

00:58:28.940 in Delaware. First, uh, there was someone who asked a question of him that he didn't like,

00:58:36.680 but the woman he's about to respond to is not the reporter who asked the question he didn't like.

00:58:42.760 And yet he decided to berate, berate some female reporter on Friday. Watch.

00:58:50.140 I feel like everybody expects, sir. I've done it all because I'm loyal. I do it every damn year.

00:58:56.280 From the very beginning. I'll never forget when I came from it. That's why.

00:59:00.860 Okay. I don't, was he going to kiss her or was he yelling at her? The listening audience,

00:59:05.000 he kind of bends down to get to the level of this female and like re leans over right to her,

00:59:10.480 like the, where I am with a microphone, like right to her to make his point. And then in the second

00:59:15.980 soundbite ladies, he gets asked a generic question about his health and he threatens to beat up some

00:59:23.480 people. There's also been a lot of discussion recently about your mental, mental and physical

00:59:31.360 capabilities while you were in office. You can see that I'm mentally incompetent and I can't walk

00:59:36.800 and I can beat the hell out of both of them. But I think he means Taffer and Thompson. Not sure

00:59:44.620 that was his effort to prove to us, Eliana, that he's all there thoughts. Uh, I mean, it's amazing

00:59:51.880 that the response of team Biden to the allegations in the book, but also to his failures on the public

01:00:00.260 stage over the past four years are to continue putting him out there. I mean, they went on,

01:00:05.560 they put Biden on the view, uh, to pre, but the book where Dr. Jill had to finish his sentences. And

01:00:13.040 then he's out here. I don't know exactly where he was. And he said this, um, like this 82 year old

01:00:19.760 frail guy who was just diagnosed with stage four cancer is going to beat up a two younger men. I mean,

01:00:26.640 it's like pathetic. Granted, they are reporters. They're Friday. Is he, he did say in, um, this

01:00:34.240 interview that he feels good and quote, all the folks are very optimistic. The expectation is we're

01:00:39.600 going to be able to beat this regarding his cancer diagnosis. So that's good. I mean, nobody wants to

01:00:45.400 see him suffer, uh, with prostate cancer or certainly die before it's his time. So, um, good. Glad to hear

01:00:51.800 that. Not sure what else is happening there though. The man, he would have been our president now if we

01:00:57.680 had listened to the Democrats. Like if, if, if Trump didn't take him down in that debate and by take him

01:01:02.440 down, I mean, just being quiet and letting him speak. He could be our president now. I mean, it's

01:01:07.700 truly terrifying. Now I, I touched on, uh, facetiously the Biden administration trying to ruin

01:01:13.720 Elon. And certainly the Democrats have been trying to ruin Elon since he signed up for team Trump and

01:01:19.580 joined the Trump administration as head of Doge. And that's officially done. Now Doge is not done,

01:01:25.280 but Elon's, you know, full-time work as a special government employee is now over on schedule.

01:01:31.940 You only get 130 days. It can be renewed by the way. That's what they kept doing with Anita done

01:01:35.900 that. That's a way of getting around, having to give your financial statements. Cause when you work

01:01:40.660 for the feds, you have to give all your financials, but you can just keep renewing one of these special

01:01:44.540 government employee things and you never have to renew them. Anita. Anywho, he laughed and is going

01:01:49.980 back to his many, many companies. And here is how the folks over on MSNBC described his departure.

01:01:59.320 Sot 29. He was, he didn't just leave. He's not, he's not just slipping out of Washington. He was chased

01:02:06.740 out of Washington by democracy, by people saying no, by people protesting so much around his cars

01:02:15.320 and dealerships that he lost billions and billions of dollars by people raising their voices, by people

01:02:21.180 filing lawsuits. Adnan Giridias, who's also an NYU professor and MSNBC contributor, chased out of

01:02:29.580 Washington by democracy. Emily. Oh, that is so funny. Um, actually Elon Musk was a huge part of

01:02:37.640 the democratic get out the vote effort in November. So I, I mean, that would have been a fun conversation

01:02:42.880 to have on MSNBC as well, but it's just funny. I mean, like there's actually some really interesting,

01:02:49.160 um, you have things that you can talk about when it comes to Elon Musk, but part of the, like the

01:02:55.360 Biden or I'm sorry, the Trump era, Trump 2.0 era attacks on the administration itself had just been

01:03:01.420 to flatten Elon Musk into a caricature. And I mean, they are celebrating now that they, they say

01:03:08.960 democracy when they just mean themselves. Like anytime they're talking about elites, they say

01:03:14.640 democracy, like it was chased out by democracy. It was the people. Yeah. So that there is a great

01:03:22.140 example of that, that my team queued up Eliana of Nicole Wallace, not content to have a failing show

01:03:28.020 on MSNBC has now launched what's sure to be a failing podcast. And her first big get was Rachel

01:03:35.280 Maddow. Okay. Her, her nightly pal for the past 10 years or what have you over at that network. And

01:03:42.700 would you take a listen to these two naval gazers talking about their role in society? Listen to this.

01:03:49.680 It's top 10. A friend sent me a meme the other day. It was like a Paddington meme. And it was the,

01:03:55.340 the caption was born to dilly dally forced to fight fascists.

01:04:03.400 The election was coming to an end and the stories that we cover became so real. And in my scary

01:04:11.300 moments, like you were my lifeline and the person that I've always called. And I feel now like we're

01:04:17.320 doing the actual work and I feel a little less scared. It's just kind of a reminder that like

01:04:23.760 we've been talking about and worrying about the edge of the cliff for so long. And so now we have

01:04:32.480 experienced what the edge of the cliff is like and what it's like to be in midair. And we are now

01:04:38.700 in the canyon on the other side of the cliff and we are seeing what life is like there.

01:04:42.960 In the middle of a fascist takeover, what happens is there's a fascist takeover and you have to keep

01:04:47.920 still doing the work. Then you are a person who's fighting an existing fascist authoritarian

01:04:53.560 government and not just warning about it.

01:04:57.600 Okay. Got it. Born, born to dilly dally, but forced to fight fascists. That's what they're up to.

01:05:07.320 I mean, it's too painful. Um, I mean, that's probably the best guests she, she may get. I

01:05:14.920 mean, the Rachel is the highest rated anchor on that network. And, uh, I have a feeling it's

01:05:19.820 downhill from here, but they sound, they seem to be in pretty good spirits for fighting a fascist

01:05:24.480 takeover. Maybe, maybe she can get Steve Schmidt and they can, since it's the show is called the

01:05:29.640 best people, they can talk about how they orchestrated a misogynistic takedown of Sarah Palin behind

01:05:36.440 the scenes of the McCain campaign. Since there is, this is a show about good people, virtuous people.

01:05:41.400 I think that would be a great point. Yeah. Oh, I like that. Or like the best people, maybe she'll

01:05:46.220 book Doug Emhoff, you know, her, her colleague at MSNBC interviewed and didn't see fit to raise the

01:05:52.860 allegation made by a woman who had dated him from, for a long time that he beat her. Um, you know,

01:05:59.520 he denied it, but would have been something some might've considered newsworthy. Is he,

01:06:03.040 is he one of the best people? I don't know. Um, maybe Kilmar. Talk to them too. I want to know

01:06:09.140 how to get paid. Like, I want to get paid like Rachel Maddow for fighting a fascist takeover

01:06:13.560 one night a week. It's a good time. Podcast appearance. And then you can go out and you can

01:06:18.700 rip your network to shreds. Yeah. Talking about how terrible they are when they cancel racist people

01:06:26.080 like Joy Reid. You can just lament how bad your network is while you're cashing their checks,

01:06:31.400 not actually doing anything to it. By the way, note to you guys, MSNBC's new primetime lineup,

01:06:37.320 because Rachel, you know, she, she couldn't do that five day a week thing. She couldn't fight the

01:06:41.280 fascism five days a week. It's a one day a week kind of job. You know, it's just like, it's so

01:06:45.160 exhausting. Just that one hour took so much out of her. So she, she couldn't, I'm sorry. She just

01:06:50.200 couldn't, you know, it's just like, just like the guys at Normandy. Some of them couldn't keep going

01:06:54.040 past the, like the actual beachhead. They couldn't go up the hill. That's her. Um, so now the

01:07:00.840 lineup has been adjusted and, um, Jen Psaki is in there and failing, failing miserably.

01:07:09.180 Their new primetime lineup debuted May 5th. And according to media, it is quote, failing to

01:07:14.520 connect. I agree with that term overall for may MSNBC dropped 41% in the demo, 34% in the total day

01:07:24.240 numbers compared to may of last year in total viewers. The network was down, hold on down

01:07:31.440 41% in the primetime demo. Oh, 34% in the daytime demo in total viewers. The network was down 33%

01:07:38.180 across all day and down a quarter, 24% in primetime. MSNBC's total daytime demo viewership sank to

01:07:45.700 49,000 on average people. That's slashies under 50,000 is slashies. Trust me. I was in cable news

01:07:56.520 for 17 years. What you get is slashies. When you read the ratings, when you're under 50,000,

01:08:02.440 they don't even give you the number on the, the Nielsen numbers. You just see slashies,

01:08:08.040 which you know, means you're a loser. If you could turn those two little lines in different directions

01:08:13.420 come up with loser. So they're down to an average across the daytime of 49,000 and just 73,000 in

01:08:22.820 the primetime. They're not even breaking a hundred thousand in the key demo in primetime. Let me just

01:08:31.440 give you an example. When Hemmer and I launched America's newsroom in 2007, we were getting about

01:08:38.260 1.3 million in the overall and about 300 plus thousand in the key demo. This is back 20 years

01:08:46.280 ago, right? 20 years ago, we were getting about 300,000 in the key demo at 9 AM. And now here they

01:08:52.740 are in primetime, not even breaking a hundred thousand in the primetime. My friends, her show

01:09:00.540 is not even breaking a million in total viewers at 9 PM. I was at 9 PM. Trust me. It's, it's a great

01:09:11.940 place to go for ratings. She can't even break a million. I that that's unbelievable. 973,000 total

01:09:18.780 viewers. She's averaging since launch, which is almost, which is 46% less than the average that the

01:09:28.240 people had been watching to see Maddow. So Maddow does, she's beloved by those leftists and Saki is

01:09:35.220 not. Saki's number is actually even down 20% from that absolute moron, Alex Wagner, who, as far as I

01:09:43.680 can tell, was literally only put there because she has a pleasant face. Um, 20% down from Alex Wagner's

01:09:49.820 average during the same period in 2024, uh, CNN primetime, but for what it's worth moving to networks

01:09:55.480 now, CNN primetime dropped 18% in total viewers, 21% in the total demo year over year, the CNN primetime

01:10:03.060 average, primetime average. Okay. Now when I was there, we were like 4 million, 5 million, whatever,

01:10:09.780 definitely 3 million. Um, they're, they're pulling those numbers now under Trump. CNN's primetime

01:10:16.400 average 426,000 viewers. Holy shit. That's terrible. People are definitely going to get

01:10:26.420 fired. They're going to get salary slashed. You cannot continue to exist with these numbers.

01:10:30.740 Eliana thoughts on whether it should. Well, it's interesting. You know, I was at Fox for a few

01:10:37.940 years starting in 2008 and I remember the talk. This, that was the beginning of the Obama administration

01:10:42.720 being that it's really great to be in the opposition. Um, now fast forward to 2024 Fox's

01:10:49.860 ratings are up anyway, though. They're not in the opposition and, um, what should be a boon for

01:10:57.220 MSNBC and CNN being the opposition and CNN, of course, experienced this in 2016. Um, their ratings are

01:11:04.700 in the toilet and Jen Psaki, by the way, was their big recruit out of the Biden white house. She was

01:11:10.940 supposed to be the primetime star and they got rid of Alex Wagner and it does look like their

01:11:17.280 programming experiment has been a complete and utter failure, um, in this regard. And I think

01:11:24.840 it's a combination of the cable news business, uh, collapsing because people just aren't watching

01:11:30.240 tele, you know, cable news anymore and just bad, uninteresting programming. Um, and it's hard to get

01:11:37.360 beyond that. Let me tell you, let me stay on CNN for one second, Emily, because CNN, Jake Tapper has

01:11:43.240 been on this book tour. He's everywhere. I mean, he's, he's gotten on every left wing, uh, show that

01:11:47.920 there is to get on because they're all interested in whitewashing their own complicity by pretending,

01:11:52.300 Oh, I learned about it in this Jake Tapper book. Oh, ever since I learned about in the book,

01:11:56.720 I was totally on the mental, the Biden mental acuity story because I was shocked, shocked to read

01:12:02.160 about it. And then I realized I needed a report on it. Oh, that's them. Okay. Um, Tapper's show

01:12:07.780 has been getting a ton of publicity and it has hit its lowest ratings in 10 years. It's lowest

01:12:17.020 rating since 2015 reports Fox's Brian flood, despite all the buzz around his book and his intense

01:12:24.060 publicity tour, his lowest rated month in a decade in may, he averaged 525,000 total viewers,

01:12:33.780 which is, I guess, slightly above average for CNN. And, um, he shed 25% of his audience from the same

01:12:42.780 period last year, Fox news, uh, in their, their same period in this time slot is getting 3.3 million

01:12:51.240 and he's getting 500,000 MSNBC was getting 1 million. And in the key demo, he's averaging

01:12:59.100 under 100,000 again, only 95,000, which tells me no one's buying this. He's not getting some surge

01:13:09.200 of like this reporters in on things he's in the know, you know, with all due respect to Jake,

01:13:14.700 like people are not buying it. That's exactly right. No. And I think that's really important

01:13:19.980 point. Actually, these are beyond embarrassing numbers. These are like, stop showing up at

01:13:24.260 cocktail party, uh, in Georgetown numbers, but they're actually, but nobody will. Right. Because

01:13:29.600 the only people that are still on that circuit are the people who have no humility. And I think

01:13:33.480 that's actually why, um, Tapper in order to sell this book has come out with this total faux humility.

01:13:40.940 Uh, and he keeps using that word. Yeah. Cause it's, I think, uh, uh, Glenn Greenwald said this

01:13:47.760 on Tucker show. Uh, he was like, it's, it's clearly coming from the crisis PR firm that just planted it

01:13:52.720 in his brain, uh, to use the word humility. And the reason is that is why CNN and MSNBC are currently

01:13:59.320 getting their butts kicked by like progressive YouTubers and progressive X users, whatever it is

01:14:05.220 that are just bringing in podcasters that are bringing in, uh, still behind the right on some of

01:14:09.620 this stuff, but bringing in more and more viewers, it's because they, so many people realize that

01:14:14.320 actually Rachel Maddow's coverage of Trump 1.0 and the law fair was bad. Like it has aged really,

01:14:20.040 really poorly. MSNBC, CNN, their coverage of COVID has aged really, really poorly. And it's just these,

01:14:26.300 uh, sort of hardened inner, uh, cultural progressive circle. It's just those people left,

01:14:31.760 uh, the people who are still like masking up, who are watching CNN and MSNBC and thinking

01:14:36.860 like, this is yes. Oh, it's so wonderful when Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace, uh, you know,

01:14:42.340 talk about fighting fascism, whatever it is. Uh, people realize that even these networks that they

01:14:49.180 were suddenly subscribing to and watching nightly, like a Stephen Colbert over and over again during

01:14:53.620 Trump 1.0, the coverage was bad. Uh, and so they have no humility about it. And now they're realizing

01:14:59.360 end of Biden, another good example. And now they're, they're realizing it and they're trying to

01:15:03.780 pretend that they have some authenticity and humility, but they actually have none.

01:15:07.360 And that's really unappealing to viewers who like, you know, left or right, you just want to feel

01:15:12.540 like you're getting decent information. You don't feel like you're being lied to. So people feel like

01:15:16.680 that with these guys. You don't feel like you're being made dumber as a result of watching the show.

01:15:20.720 I would submit to you, Eliana, that the reason MSNBC is struggling so mightily is many, many instances

01:15:28.820 just like this. Watch. He might misplace a word here and there, but you talk to him for hours at a

01:15:36.620 time. Is he slower? Does he move slower? Yeah, he's moved slower. Uh, is he stiffer? Yeah, he moves

01:15:43.160 stiffer. Does he have trouble walking sometimes? Yeah, so did FDR. I've said it for years now. He's

01:15:49.400 cogent, but I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think he's

01:15:57.860 better than he's ever been. Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth.

01:16:03.800 And ask you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically,

01:16:13.860 is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. And I've known him for years. We got it. We got it.

01:16:19.360 That's enough. That's the reason, Eliana, those examples Emily just gave and that like, you don't

01:16:25.380 survive that. You just you just don't. I don't know. I don't know, Megan. I think you're assuming

01:16:34.240 that that these people are capable of embarrassment and that their audiences expect honesty. Well,

01:16:41.660 then why are their numbers down? OK, just saying they got COVID wrong. Your time. Well, everyone's

01:16:48.340 saying they got everything wrong, but I don't actually I think there's not a lot of good news

01:16:53.880 for Democrats. No, but so I disagree. I disagree. I have been in the so-called opposition many years

01:17:01.600 on Fox. I was there for all of Obama. I was a news anchor at Fox News for the entirety of Barack Obama's

01:17:09.280 term. Those were some lean years editorially. He was beloved by much of the country. He had very

01:17:18.620 high approval ratings. Republicans didn't absolutely love him. And he did very controversial things that

01:17:23.080 drew eyeballs at times like Obamacare. But he was kind of boring a lot of the time. And yet Fox News

01:17:30.540 continued to stay number one because there's always something to talk about if they trust you

01:17:36.140 and you know how to do good television. And MSNBC has neither of those two things going for it. Go

01:17:43.000 ahead. Yeah, I think I think there's a lot to that. At the same time, I just I don't see any kind of

01:17:51.080 course correction coming here. I mean, this goes back to look, Scarborough is like the only thing that

01:17:58.400 network has going for it. Where where do they turn now? And and they've been wrong. This is not just

01:18:08.920 MSNBC. This is the New York Times, the mainstream media writ large. And it's why alternative outlets

01:18:14.540 are thriving. They've been wrong on covid. They were wrong on the big Russiagate story. And they didn't

01:18:21.300 cover at all Biden's decline. And so they were wrong on the three biggest stories of the past

01:18:29.900 five years, six years. And it is pretty hard to survive when you're supposed to be in the business

01:18:37.260 of giving people news. Yeah, like facts, actual facts. They were also wrong intentionally responses.

01:18:44.480 People are the people who most got things wrong are promoted. There's no penalty.

01:18:51.500 No, no, no. Rachel Maddow. You get 30 million dollars a year for lying to her audience. They

01:18:55.140 were also wrong about Elon Musk doing a Nazi salute. All of them in the left wing press went with that

01:19:03.780 MS like all of them, every single print publication. We pulled it. And that got so much attention when he

01:19:10.640 made that gesture at the Trump rally, which was his hand on his heart and then motioning outward.

01:19:16.580 And they all said, Nazi salute, Nazi salute. And then what happened on Saturday was this.

01:19:24.240 Cory Booker, beloved senator from New Jersey, went to the Dem convention there and gave his own Nazi

01:19:30.840 salute. Look at this. It's exactly what Elon Musk did. He puts his hand on his heart and gestures out

01:19:39.140 to the crowd. And no sane person thinks that Cory Booker actually did a Nazi salute.

01:19:45.060 We recognize it wasn't a Nazi salute and neither was Elon Musk's. Neither one did a Nazi salute.

01:19:52.820 But one suffered nonstop coverage in the press about their Nazi salute and one did not. I'll give you

01:20:01.640 guys a guess which one didn't get any of that nonsense rained down upon him. I'm trying to find this

01:20:07.080 in my thing. Okay, here it is. Now, we checked as of noon yesterday, there was no coverage of Cory

01:20:17.520 Booker's, quote, Nazi salute in the New York Times, in CNN, Washington Post, MSNBC, NPR, USA Today,

01:20:25.220 Reuters, Axios, Associated Press, Newsweek, or the Daily Beast. Those last two only referenced it to point

01:20:30.920 out that MAGA melts down over Cory Booker's, quote, Nazi salute. That's the Daily Beast.

01:20:38.220 And Newsweek, MAGA accuses Democratic Senator Cory Booker of doing Nazi salute. But let me just give

01:20:46.080 you a contrast. Those same publications I'm going to run through after Musk did literally the exact

01:20:52.140 same gesture. New York Times, it looked a lot like the salute used in Nazi Germany and fascist Italy,

01:21:01.460 CNN. Let's see. Aaron Burnett, our viewers are smart. They can take a look at that. But it certainly

01:21:07.840 was. It's not something you typically see in an American political rally. Let's put it that way.

01:21:13.240 Washington Post, Musk sparked controversy with a hand gesture resembling a Nazi salute. MSNBC,

01:21:18.460 Musk condemned for gesturing her gesture resembling a Nazi salute. NPR, to many observers,

01:21:23.580 Musk's arm movement appeared to be a Nazi salute. USA Today, Elon Musk's odd-looking salute sure looked

01:21:28.380 like a SIG Heil to me. Reuters, Musk's hand gesture while he spoke during a celebration of Trump

01:21:34.660 drew online comparisons to a Nazi salute. Axios, Musk and Tesla remain untouchable after Nazi salute

01:21:41.720 accusations. Associated Press, Musk's straight arm gesture embraced by right-wing extremists,

01:21:47.180 regardless of what he meant. By the way, AP's most recent article on Cory Booker,

01:21:53.300 it's all about how he expanded upon his historic Senate floor speech for his new book, Stand.

01:21:58.860 Nothing about the salute. Stand and salute. They forgot that part. Newsweek, I told you about Daily

01:22:03.920 Beef. Democrats, no tweets about Cory Booker from AOC, who immediately attacked Elon Musk back in

01:22:11.560 January, which I think we have, right? We have her. Let's listen to what AOC said about the exact same

01:22:20.660 gesture from Elon.

01:22:23.560 I don't care what Elon Musk is doing behind a presidential seal. In this country, we hate Nazis.

01:22:31.880 Kind of like a foundational defining thing that we beat the Confederates and we beat the Nazis.

01:22:40.180 And I don't know what side people may be on today, but I still am not rocking with anyone sympathetic

01:22:50.460 to Nazis. And I will do that until I am six feet in the ground. Like kind of foundational to me

01:22:59.640 as a human being. And so if you're cool and want to defend the Sigh-Hails and the Nazi salutes,

01:23:09.500 all the, all the, you know, whatever you want to do, that's on you. I'm on the opposite side of that.

01:23:15.820 I'm not with the Nazis. How about that?

01:23:19.840 Well, okay. Me neither. Let's do this, AOC. I got a live one for you. His name is Cory Booker

01:23:25.920 and he is ready to take it like a man. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. AOC has done it too.

01:23:32.680 Here she is. It's kind of a conflict of interest, ladies. I don't know who would like to take this

01:23:39.120 one. Well, can I just say, I wish these people brought the same passion and the same ferocity

01:23:45.900 to bear on the lunatic in Denver who's actually firebombing Jews trying to hold a vigil for

01:23:55.400 hostages and the lunatic who gunned down two young people outside of pro-Israel event.

01:24:04.780 But there, you know, they know exactly what was going through Elon's head when he held his arm up.

01:24:08.900 Right. But these other people, they, they can't figure out the motive. Like we can't get ahead

01:24:13.580 of that. So I wish, I wish they could figure it out. But the other people, I mean, it's a very good

01:24:19.680 point. They're all doing Nazi salutes. We will show the video. We've got Elizabeth Warren. We've

01:24:24.200 got Kamala Harris. We've got, um, like I said, AOC and others. So I, I guess I'm not sure how it

01:24:30.840 works. Like they, Elon's a Nazi, but Kamala's not a Nazi and Corey's not a Nazi. Um, I'm sure you and I

01:24:41.200 are Nazis. Like I, I, I, I'm not sure what the logic is here, Emily, but, um, can you believe

01:24:46.900 not one of these news agencies has tried to pull this trick with Cory Booker, not to mention Liz

01:24:53.820 Warren, AOC, et cetera? The thing that's interesting about the Booker video, and it's just so, it sounds

01:24:58.800 so silly to even be talking in granular detail about these videos, but they were like, that one is

01:25:03.080 basically apples to apples with the Musk salute. And at the time I disagreed with some of my friends on

01:25:08.720 this. I mean, for me, it was just like the volume of coverage was, I'm glad we just like look back on

01:25:13.960 some of it because it was such a frenzied news cycle, uh, predicated on this idea that Elon Musk

01:25:19.880 had just definitively shown his true colors as a Nazi on stage. And now the fascism was naked and open

01:25:27.340 and the bigotry was just in full public view. How could you possibly think anything other than that

01:25:33.780 Elon Musk was paying homage to the Nazis and the volume of the coverage, I just thought was

01:25:39.140 completely ridiculous. Like, again, I had people, friends who disagreed with me on whether or not

01:25:43.700 it was a Nazi salute. I thought it was like, obviously him just being weird. And I took a lot

01:25:48.520 of flack for it at the time, but you can look at so many different people doing these gestures over

01:25:53.480 time. And even if you think that maybe Elon Musk was like, just take that argument, say maybe he was

01:25:59.020 giving some secret sign to, uh, white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Really? You would think that on

01:26:06.560 stage, Elon Musk was actually giving, like, it doesn't make sense. Like the argument just never

01:26:12.000 made sense to justify. Like the thing about Pete Hegseth allegedly drinking scotch while giving one

01:26:16.840 of his, his first speech, you know, after he said he wouldn't let alcohol touches, but you know,

01:26:21.020 right here in front of everybody, bottoms up, keep going. Right, right. No, no. I just think that's

01:26:25.680 going to be like, look at this. I don't look at this. Somebody on Twitter put this together. Look

01:26:29.080 at them side by side. That is apples to apples. Like it's, you know, again, even if you think that

01:26:35.160 Elon Musk is a neo-Nazi, the idea that he's going out on stage and openly doing a Sieg Heil with the

01:26:42.280 president of the United States who has Jewish grandchildren, it just doesn't make any sense to

01:26:47.320 me, to me. So like this massive explosion of coverage where we had a frenzied multi-day news cycle

01:26:52.820 over Elon Musk openly, um, paying homage to the Nazis. It was just so, it was such a waste of time.

01:26:59.340 And they, the media research center did one of those, uh, analyses, Eliana, about what kind of

01:27:04.920 coverage Elon got and what kind of coverage Pete got. And it was both universally negative. I think

01:27:10.780 it was, it was actually 100% negative in the case of Pete and maybe 99 and Elon, my team will correct

01:27:17.120 me, but they were both above 97%. I mean, it was insanely negative for both. That's why Elon has

01:27:23.800 to be a Nazi. But Cory Booker has written a new book called stand. Wow. It's, it's parlaying off

01:27:29.400 of his historic filibuster where he never stood and stood up for the rest of us.

01:27:37.860 Yeah. Historic. I, you think 10 years from now or five years from now, two years from now,

01:27:42.700 six months from now, we're all going to remember, we're all going to remember the big history, making

01:27:46.980 history, making speech, um, that he, that he then used to fundraise off of and write a book off of.

01:27:55.660 And I can't wait to know what, um, how much this publisher gave him an advance for to write the book.

01:28:01.980 Um, it was all, it was all for history. Yeah, that's right. He's historic and that's all you need

01:28:08.220 to know. And by the way, Elon must be destroyed. Kia, Tesla, bomb a Tesla, but don't buy a Tesla.

01:28:14.420 That's the left today. But if they just study the syntax of young men, they could find a way back.

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01:29:22.400 Because I haven't tortured you enough with clips from Nicole Wallace and Rachel Maddow. Um, I decided

01:29:32.480 I saw it. And so you had to as well, the following clip from sex and the city, their latest sequel.

01:29:40.860 I don't know. Oh, I know what this is. Oh, no. Sorry, Jashinsky, but it's happening. It's happening

01:29:45.780 for the listening audience. We are about to see Miranda, the character played by Cynthia Nixon,

01:29:51.560 who is so annoying in bed with a virgin nun played by Rosie O'Donnell. I just threw up a little in my

01:30:02.380 mouth. Go ahead. Roll it. You are amazing. Oh, I have never experienced anything like that.

01:30:10.720 Ew. This is a nice way to wake up. Oh, you are really, really something.

01:30:16.300 Oh, my God. Yes. It felt so, I don't know, electric and yet still so natural. I never dreamed my

01:30:27.120 first time could be both those things. First time. Oh, my God. I'm so grossed out, Emily. I don't even

01:30:39.180 I you have to talk. I can't. You're grossed out, but you're not sorry.

01:30:45.760 For stuff. Why should I be the only one who suffers? You all have to suffer. We're in it

01:30:50.780 together. I guess I saw it trending and I was like, oh, I can't click on this. I can't. And you know

01:30:57.320 what? Actually, though, I think by watching it, it's just such an example of how bad the writing

01:31:03.900 is on that show. Like the writing on some of these shows, it's like they put it into like

01:31:10.200 progressive chat GPT and come up with just like the worst, the worst dialogue. It's so bad.

01:31:20.220 That's possible. Which would actually be if Cynthia Nixon is reading AI generated words,

01:31:25.280 that really betrays her progressive principles, I have to say, as a, you know, an advocate for the

01:31:32.620 downtrodden. You know what else? You know what else betrays them? Not disclosing when you're in bed

01:31:39.040 with somebody that you have herpes. It's important to disclose before you have sexual interludes that

01:31:46.400 you have the herpes virus. I'm sorry. Exhibit A. Here is Rosie O'Donnell bitching and moaning about

01:31:53.140 her favorite person, Donald Trump. I think this is before she moved. I don't I can't keep track of

01:31:57.380 where she's living in the world to avoid him. Watch. Well, hey, everybody, it's Friday all day,

01:32:03.420 as my Nana would say. And look what I have on my lip. Everybody's been saying you have herpes,

01:32:09.180 you have herpes all this time. And I never had a cold sore in my life. And now I have a cold sore.

01:32:15.080 And it makes me think that perhaps this weird pimple that had a tiny little head

01:32:19.480 was a cold sore too. And so I talked to my doctor today and I did a video telehealth.

01:32:26.700 And they said that it's not a cold sore. It's some reaction to the sun. So I don't know. I will let

01:32:35.240 you know tomorrow if I do, in fact, have herpes as some of the taunting from the MAGA people in the

01:32:42.360 last couple of couple of weeks. Hasn't it been fun, ladies and gentlemen, to be standing in direct

01:32:49.420 opposition to everything he is and represents? And always have been and always will be.

01:33:01.680 It's herpes. It's herpes. She came out later and told the world she has Donald Trump inflicted herpes

01:33:08.580 from stress. And I wonder, Eliana, whether really there was a legal obligation there for her to

01:33:14.400 disclose that to the character of Miranda. I have to say, she seems to be in a lot worse condition

01:33:24.380 than Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace in terms of fighting fascism or whatever. But I don't even

01:33:33.260 have a response to that. No, you can't. It's a stomach turn. See that. It's too upset.

01:33:39.980 Anybody wanted Donald Trump would never inflict herpes on Rosie O'Donnell. I think he's made that

01:33:44.440 very clear. Since Eliana refuses to play, Emily, I've got another sound. I didn't even know sex in

01:33:50.020 the city was back on the air. I saw it. It's happening. You have to react live to the herpes.

01:33:55.580 I'm sorry. And I was like, oh, you know what? The culture stuff. That's Emily's Ballywick anyway.

01:34:01.500 Here we go. Here we go. Here's another beauty. This is Rosie in another scene singing to Miranda.

01:34:10.700 Enjoy. Because I knew you. Because I knew you. I have been changed for good.

01:34:23.180 It's from Wicked. Go ahead. Some comedy, finally. Finally, Rosie O'Donnell is back

01:34:35.300 with comedy. You know, Megan, I haven't been watching this season. And I think that's

01:34:40.580 probably being validated right now as everyone watches these clips. But it's just the writing

01:34:46.340 on all of this stuff. It's so because it's actually this is going to be a weird connection,

01:34:50.860 but it's actually similar to the Nicole Wallace's and the Rachel Maddow's. It's just that

01:34:54.700 people have isolated themselves from criticism because of mental health. Like some of these

01:35:00.900 people in like super, super elite positions for mental health reasons, for ideology reasons,

01:35:06.040 they're convinced everybody who disagrees with them is a bigot. So they don't get feedback really

01:35:11.780 anymore from anyone other than people who like mostly agree with them and see the world the same

01:35:16.100 way. And it's really hurt stuff like sex in the city, just in the same way that it's actually hurt

01:35:21.660 news. It's like they've just and we've seen it a little bit start to change. Like when you hear

01:35:26.180 Jamie Dimon start to, you know, flirt with maybe mass immigration and open borders can have some

01:35:32.080 downstream consequences that are OK to talk about. But mostly these people aren't taking criticism

01:35:37.800 from people as they think everyone else is a big idiot. But I mean, what do you do when those

01:35:43.600 literally those are two of the biggest brand ambassadors for Team Blue? They are. I'm not just

01:35:49.880 saying that they are. I'm sorry if you're a Democrat, but you're stuck with them. I mean,

01:35:55.600 the one ran for governor of New York and continues to get out there and rail on the transit. She's got

01:35:59.880 like 40 kids, all of whom are trans and nine non-binary. I mean, I think that might be true for

01:36:04.680 both of them. I don't know. Rosie. Oh, she's unclear to me, but Cynthia Nixon for sure.

01:36:08.620 And Rosie is so outspoken. Imagine the horror in being a Democrat, like maybe a normal Democrat,

01:36:14.800 like an old, you know, blue dog Democrat, Eliana, and having one of the people most associated with

01:36:20.680 your brand out there pointing to some huge growth right underneath her nose saying it might be a pimple

01:36:27.340 or it's a herpy. And then delivering an update. It's a herpy. I have herpes. Look at my herpy

01:36:34.140 virus. It was caused by Donald Trump. And then asking us to picture her in bed with a vibrator

01:36:40.220 and Cynthia Nixon Nixon. And then they're like, why can't we get young men on Team Blue? What is it?

01:36:46.640 What is it about us that drives them away? Megan, don't interfere. Just let let the immigration

01:36:55.340 message continue as it is. Yeah. Let Rosie continue. Don't do anything to mess this up.

01:37:02.620 It's perfect. I think she's saying we need to stop calling attention to it. Just,

01:37:07.480 just to let, let the consumer enjoy. All right. Now, listen, I have one other topic that I have

01:37:12.700 got to get into with you guys. Can you stay just five extra minutes because we have to say goodbye to

01:37:16.980 SiriusXM, but this topic is so good. I want to tell the SiriusXMers what we're about to do.

01:37:20.580 You do have to tune into the last few minutes of the pod and or youtube.com. I'm not doing this

01:37:25.120 intentionally. We've had to go over a few days in the past couple of weeks. I generally try to

01:37:29.400 squeeze it into the time block on Sirius, but there's just so much news. All right. The topic

01:37:34.620 is Patti LuPone, who most people, they don't even know who she is, but she is the toast of Broadway.

01:37:42.400 And just ask her. This woman is seriously drunk on her own power and took some shots at some other

01:37:51.920 Broadway actors who happen to be, to include women of color. And all of Broadway is now bringing the

01:38:01.380 hammer down on this woman. I don't know. I don't think I have time to squeeze it in, but okay. I'll

01:38:08.100 give a little bit more background while I have, right. I have one more minute. Um, so Patti LuPone,

01:38:14.140 we've been showing the audience clips of her. I don't know why sometimes, you know, I really just

01:38:19.440 like, is it sadism or Mac masochism a little of both, right? I do it to myself, but I'm bringing

01:38:25.220 you down with me, but it's important to keep an eye on these so-called cultural icons. She's the one

01:38:29.680 we've been showing you who yelled at everybody on Broadway, pull up your effing mask because the

01:38:34.960 person had it on, but had it under their nose in the audience. And then, you know, chaos ensued as

01:38:42.320 the audience member shouted back, I pay your salary. And she's the one who attacked yours truly as a

01:38:48.160 non-journalist in her interview with George Clooney. Well, now she is in a shit ton of trouble of her own

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01:41:29.780 Put your mask over your nose. That's why you're in the theater. That is the rule. If you don't

01:41:37.740 want to follow the rule, get the fuck out. Who do you think you are if you do not respect

01:41:47.960 the people that are sitting around you?

01:41:50.120 Your salary.

01:41:51.020 You pay my salary a bullshit. Chris Harper pays my salary. Who do you think you are?

01:41:58.180 Give me a hug. Just put your mask over your nose.

01:42:05.180 She's such a charmer, that Patti LuPone. So that's an old clip. More recently, there was

01:42:11.120 this one when she went on The View. This is very recent. Take a listen to her message there.

01:42:17.080 I don't know what the difference between our Christian right and the Taliban is. I have no

01:42:21.840 idea what the difference is. You're not the only person who has said that.

01:42:24.980 I just don't know what the difference is. What's happening in this country right now in the name

01:42:30.540 of religion is so dangerous. Okay. I love the whoopee response. You're not the only one who

01:42:37.580 feels that way. I only know other people feel that way. There's no difference. Taliban and Christian

01:42:42.620 right. So Patti LuPone, and then as I mentioned, she was ripping on me too. So I don't like her.

01:42:47.280 I don't like her for all of these reasons. But this is so delicious. Okay, let's just dig in

01:42:52.460 because you're going to like this. It's so fun. It's so rare that these people get hoisted on

01:42:57.040 their own petards. But she's on her petard, ladies. Okay. Here's where things started to go

01:43:03.580 wrong for her. Okay. Last year, I don't know where we're getting. Tell me the sources that I'm reading

01:43:10.400 from so I don't completely copy this off of somebody without credit. Megan, it's okay. You can just say

01:43:15.620 other people have said that you're not the only one who said that you're just other people also

01:43:21.080 agree that last year, Patti LuPone show, the roommate shared a wall with a different show,

01:43:28.760 the Alicia Keys musical, which is called Hell's Kitchen. Okay. So their two shows shared a wall

01:43:35.620 and the actress who stars in the Alicia Keys musical is Keisha Lewis and Patti LuPone didn't

01:43:43.080 like sharing a wall with Keisha Lewis's show, Hell's Kitchen, because the sound from the Alicia

01:43:49.480 Keys musical would bleed through. And Patti LuPone, who really does fancy herself the queen of Broadway,

01:43:56.720 was unhappy that she had to listen to any of the musical notes. So she spoke with the head of the

01:44:02.280 other theater and asked him if he could fix the noise problem. After those efforts, which came this past

01:44:08.540 November, Keisha Lewis posted a video on Instagram. Do we have the thought? Let's just play it.

01:44:18.040 Here's what she posted.

01:44:19.240 These actions, in my opinion, are bullying. They're offensive. They're racially microaggressive.

01:44:25.940 They're rooted in privilege. And these actions also lack a sense of community and leadership

01:44:32.200 for someone as yourself who has been in the business as long as you have.

01:44:36.200 I want to explain what a microaggression is. These are subtle, unintentional comments or actions that

01:44:43.420 convey stereotypes, biases, or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. Examples include

01:44:50.560 calling a Black show loud in a way that dismisses it. Referring to a predominantly Black Broadway show as

01:44:58.540 loud can unintentionally reinforce harmful stereotypes. And it also feels dismissive of the artistry and

01:45:06.140 the voices that are being celebrated on stage. Ms. LuPone, I respectfully submit to you that you owe us an

01:45:12.160 apology, not flowers.

01:45:14.360 Don't! And flowers. Shots fired! This is so perfect, right? It's like the woke and the woker and

01:45:21.160 you're a racist. This is a microaggression to say a Black show is loud. Even though it's Alicia Keys and

01:45:28.080 it's a musical, I'm sure the piano and the singing is loud. It goes on the whole time. But so it does in

01:45:33.200 most musicals. In any event, shots fired, okay? So then Patti LuPone sits down for an interview with

01:45:42.800 the New Yorker. And she doesn't give two shits that anybody's attacking her because she's like,

01:45:47.920 I fucking hang out with George Clooney and The View. You bitches can go F, okay? So she says to the

01:45:53.900 New Yorker, I know you got to go soon, Eliana, so you can peace out when you got to go, but this is too

01:45:58.140 delicious. So you stay as long as you can. Um, she says when the New Yorker, uh, writer brought up

01:46:05.080 the incident. Oh my God, said LuPone. Here's the problem. She calls herself a veteran. Let's find

01:46:12.520 out how many Broadway shows Keisha Lewis has done because she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking

01:46:17.580 about. Okay. She, she then Googled, meaning Patti LuPone Googled Keisha Lewis quote. She's done

01:46:25.380 seven. I've done 31. Don't call yourself a vet bitch. She's an angry, angry lady. Okay. So she's

01:46:37.920 like asserting her power. Like I, I'm the queen of Broadway, Keisha suck it. Okay. So then this New

01:46:46.400 Yorker writer, who is the, that's the person by, by the way, who we got the information from

01:46:50.800 and the New York post, we got to, who's the writer. Cause this person is subversive. Michael

01:46:56.160 Shulman. I think I'm your fan. I'll have to research you more, but I love this piece. So

01:47:00.120 this guy is one subversive SOB. So he then writes, I mentioned that Audra McDonald, the Tony decorated

01:47:09.440 Broadway star had given the video by Keisha Lewis supportive emojis. I love this guy's all shit

01:47:17.880 stir. He's like, Oh, well another, another Broadway queen who's very well rewarded and Tony decorated.

01:47:24.400 She liked the video. Audra McDonald did. And Patti LuPone said exactly. And I thought you should know

01:47:33.300 better. That's typical of Audra. She's not a friend, hard D. She's not a friend. It's fun

01:47:42.020 playing her. The two singers had some long ago rift, LuPone said, but she didn't want to elaborate.

01:47:48.240 When I asked what she thought of Audra McDonald, the thumbs up lady, a current production of Gypsy,

01:47:55.020 she stared at me in silence for 15 seconds. Then she turned to the window and sighed,

01:48:02.960 what a beautiful day. I couldn't love this anymore. The drama for these like

01:48:12.060 just highfalutin Broadway bees. Okay. So here, here it comes, here it comes open letter signed by more

01:48:21.940 than 600 members of the Broadway community condemning Patti LuPone's comments about Keisha Lewis

01:48:29.580 and Audra McDonald. Now you've effed yourself over with not one, but two beautiful black Broadway broads

01:48:39.400 and you're in serious trouble, Patti LuPone. 600 people. The letter was addressed openly to the

01:48:46.300 theater community, as well as Tony producers, uh, the Broadway league and the American theater win.

01:48:52.940 Okay, here we go. All right. Okay. Goodbye. Eliana will miss you. Emily, you get the joy of staying

01:48:58.060 through to the end of this. I was going to say she did that on purpose. She's like, peace out. This is

01:49:03.040 too, but you get, you're the lucky one who gets to hear the end from the letter. This language is not

01:49:09.900 only degrading and misogynistic. It is a blatant act of racialized disrespect. It constitutes bullying.

01:49:18.240 It constitutes harassment. The letter reads, it is emblematic of the microaggressions and abuse that

01:49:23.780 people in this industry have endured for far too long, too often without consequence. Yes. Because

01:49:28.520 when you think of Broadway, you think about its microaggressions against black and minority people.

01:49:35.560 Isn't that really what Broadway has? That's the experience you get over there. The audience has

01:49:40.200 heard me say, went to see, um, Macbeth on Broadway a couple of years ago with Doug. Daniel Craig was

01:49:46.620 starring in it. We saw a guy in a wheelchair who came out to introduce the play. It was a majority

01:49:53.360 minority cast, even though it was, uh, 1500s Scotland. You were like almost no white people.

01:49:59.700 The King's son was played by a woman who had a blue Mohawk, but Broadway hates minorities really

01:50:06.900 is what they're saying. It's, it's the abuse and microaggressions. The people in this industry

01:50:11.620 have endured for far too long, too often without consequence quote to publicly attack a woman who

01:50:16.600 has contributed to this art form with such excellence, leadership and grace. And they don't

01:50:21.760 mean Patti LuPone. They, they mean the woman starring in hell's kitchen, Keisha Lewis, I think,

01:50:27.180 or maybe Audra McDonald unclear. Either one will work, but to attack her and to discredit the legacy

01:50:33.440 yeah. Of Audra McDonald. So they meant Keisha Lewis first and discrediting Audra's legacy.

01:50:39.660 The most nominated and awarded performer in Tony award history. Not you, Patti is not simply a

01:50:45.540 personal offense. It is a public affront to the values of collaboration, equity, and mutual respect

01:50:51.240 that our theater community claims to uphold. We call on the American theater wing and the Broadway

01:50:58.520 league to take immediate action, not only in response to Patti LuPone's comments, but in

01:51:03.780 establishing a broader standard of accountability moving forward. So they want to have to deal with

01:51:10.100 these racists and misogynists running rampant on stage on Broadway. Emily, I mean, who knew

01:51:18.180 individuals, including Patti LuPone, who use their platform to publicly demean, harass, or disparage

01:51:25.760 fellow artists, particularly with racial, she said, loud, it's racial, gendered, she said, bitch,

01:51:36.640 or doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. Yeah. Both of those things, gendered or otherwise

01:51:41.780 violent language should not be welcomed at industry events. You're out of the cool crowd,

01:51:48.800 Patti LuPone. You won't be invited to the next LGBTQ pride event, including the Tony awards,

01:51:56.380 the fundraisers and the public programs. First, we lost the Kennedy center. And now

01:52:02.360 this. Does it actually say that in the letter? It actually says that? Not the Kennedy, not the

01:52:09.440 Kennedy. No, no, but before that, it really, no, it really says. Tony awards, fundraisers and public

01:52:14.220 programs. They want to shut it. They're going to kick Patti LuPone out of the Tony award. Yes. Yes.

01:52:19.800 It's civil war. It's civil war. I love it. I love it. I love it. There's, there's literally no one to

01:52:25.620 root for and everyone to loathe. It's so wonderful. You don't get these stories every day. As of Saturday,

01:52:30.940 the letter had almost 700 signatures. They're probably over 700. I don't even think they're

01:52:36.440 more than that on Broadway. Probably have a thousand people working on Broadway. And then

01:52:40.060 Saturday came, but by the way, speaking of the Kennedy center in that interview, uh, with the

01:52:47.080 New Yorker, the writer pointed out that she told me more than once, quote, the Trumpified Kennedy

01:52:51.740 center should, should get blown up. She wants it blown up. The Trumpified Kennedy center. So now on,

01:52:57.800 by the way, she got no blowback for that. No, no nasty letter, no open letter about her violent

01:53:02.940 language. No one gave two shits, but they're very upset. She said loud, but, but the lady's very

01:53:09.640 upset that she referred to a, a musical about Alicia Keys is loud because they share a wall

01:53:14.180 she can hear. Okay. So here of course was the forced apology, which is such a fun part of the act.

01:53:20.240 Okay. Here's the apology for as long as I've worked in the fucking theater. No, she doesn't.

01:53:26.960 It's just sounded like her in the theater. I've spoken my mind and never apologized.

01:53:31.980 That is changing today. I am deeply sorry for the words I used during the New Yorker interview,

01:53:37.400 particularly about Keisha Lewis, which were demeaning and disrespect disrespectful. Again,

01:53:43.760 this is what she said about her. She calls herself a veteran. Let's find out how many Broadway shows

01:53:47.460 she's done. She doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. She's on seven. I've done 31.

01:53:51.000 Don't call yourself a vet bitch. They were demeaning and disrespectful. I am devastated that

01:53:57.720 my behavior has offended others and has run counter to what we hold dear in the community. I hope to

01:54:02.420 have the chance to speak to Audra and Keisha personally to offer my sincere apologies. I made

01:54:06.940 a mistake. I take full responsibility for it. And I am committed to making this right.

01:54:14.060 Our entire theater community deserves better. That's it. That's story time with MK, courtesy of

01:54:22.820 this guy who wrote a banger of a New Yorker piece, the New York Post and Patti LuPone and her own very

01:54:28.140 weird Broadway communities overreactions to everything. Your thoughts on the whole thing?

01:54:35.200 Well, I have so many, Megan, but first of all, I feel like I just watched a one woman show,

01:54:39.600 which was you as Patti LuPone, channeling Patti LuPone, going back and forth in this bitter civil

01:54:47.240 war on Broadway. Now, it's just Patti LuPone has been a known sort of bully or the accusations of

01:54:56.620 her being a bully have circulated around Broadway for years. It's sort of baked into the lore and the

01:55:01.820 myth of Patti LuPone is that she's like this old school Broadway diva. And so the fact that it's

01:55:09.280 now being treated as like a social justice issue to take down Patti LuPone is really something

01:55:16.580 now suddenly 2025, everyone must take down Patti LuPone because she accused the Alicia Keys musical

01:55:23.400 of being too loud at one point. I mean, just also, this is I'm just going to keep pulling on the same

01:55:30.800 thread and make this connection between the awful Rosie O'Donnell herpes video, the Sex and the City

01:55:35.680 video, and the Rachel Maddow, Nicole Wallace podcast that we talked about on the show today,

01:55:40.980 Megan. It's like, these people don't have anyone to tell them stop, because they have exercised,

01:55:47.400 they've purged good faith critics who are still touching grass from their community. So they don't

01:55:54.680 have anyone to tell them how insane and ridiculous they sound. And it is making their work suffer.

01:56:00.640 It is turning them into not just like crazy, eccentric, interesting artists, but just like

01:56:06.500 fully sick, mentally ill people. Like they're still lecturing people about microaggressions

01:56:12.680 in the year of our Lord 2025. It just you, I think you couldn't write it because you would think at this

01:56:20.600 point, they would have had some like, humility and self reflection. But no, because they've purged

01:56:25.580 everyone who might be a good faith critic. And it's not good for them. It's not good for the

01:56:30.200 country. But at this point, we can kind of just let them have their sideshow, like their little

01:56:34.320 project with self-destructing. I mean, yeah, it's like they're all killing each other. So it's fine.

01:56:39.840 I don't care. We win either way. I don't care who wins this fight, but not for nothing. How insane

01:56:45.620 was that video by the star of the Alicia Keys musical attacking what Patti LuPone said, which was

01:56:53.640 your shows loud and we can hear it through the wall. I mean, that was Looney Tunes,

01:56:59.320 the microaggressions. Can we just watch that? Just can I just say it one more time? Just need

01:57:03.520 to see some of that one more time. This is Keisha Lewis on Instagram warning Patti LuPone about her

01:57:09.140 terrible language. Miss LuPone, these actions, in my opinion, are bullying. They're offensive.

01:57:16.940 They're racially microaggressive. They're rude. They're rooted in privilege. And these actions also

01:57:23.100 lack a sense of community and leadership for someone as yourself who has been in the business

01:57:27.940 as long as you have. I want to explain what a microaggression is. These are subtle, unintentional

01:57:34.600 comments or actions that convey stereotypes, biases, or negative assumptions about someone

01:57:40.780 based on their race. Examples include calling a Black show loud in a way that dismisses it.

01:57:48.340 Referring to a predominantly Black Broadway show as loud can unintentionally reinforce harmful

01:57:54.460 stereotypes. And it also feels dismissive of the artistry and the voices that are being celebrated on

01:58:01.000 stage. Miss LuPone, I respectfully submit to you that you owe us an apology. Not flowers.

01:58:09.180 I mean, isn't it a microaggression to tell someone to pull up their mask when they might have had a

01:58:14.200 medical reason for not wearing a mask? That sounds like a microaggression singling them out in the

01:58:18.360 audience. Good point. Here's the thing that I like my own analysis of this. Live by the sword,

01:58:25.500 die by the sword. You want to you want to make your career on Broadway and lecture everybody about

01:58:30.640 the masks and you have to follow rules. Well, you know what the rules on Broadway are. You are below

01:58:35.640 all people of color, way below. And you are way, way, way below anybody who's LGBTQ. I mean,

01:58:41.640 they're at the top of the food chain on Broadway and then come people of color. And then you're in

01:58:47.440 there, Patty, because you're a woman. So you're still you got something and you're old. So you got

01:58:50.840 those things going for you. There are no white men left on Broadway who are straight. So they don't

01:58:55.540 they're irrelevant, but she's living by the sword and she's going to die by the sword. So she

01:59:00.300 you want to act in this environment. I'm sorry. It's just a cold, hard reality. You're going to have to be

01:59:05.840 a member, a citizen of Woketopia. And you are going to have to play by those rules.

01:59:11.540 You are going to have to listen to your lectures from Keisha Lewis, and you're going to have to

01:59:18.320 genuflect as she says, the words microaggressions and understand that you cannot show, can't call a

01:59:24.380 show loud that is predominantly with a black cast. That's racist in the world that you've chosen

01:59:31.420 to live and operate in and from which you regularly judge others. So you are the one

01:59:38.400 who can F off Patty. I think I'm on the side of your insane antagonists because while they're wrong

01:59:47.880 and they're nutcases, these are the weird rules of your universe. And you've been just fine with them

01:59:54.240 up until now. These people are too talented to be this dumb, by the way, like it's just such a

02:00:00.900 stupid position at this point. Especially, it's also kind of how I feel about Rachel Maddow. Like

02:00:06.140 she's genuinely a talented person who's just gone like brain dead over the course of the last 10

02:00:12.800 years. And to see people not be able to even like do their work well because they have this awful like

02:00:20.300 mind virus is very sad. It is. It really is. It sucks. It sucks to watch, especially Broadway is one

02:00:28.400 American tradition. It's, it's like a very proud American tradition and I don't want it to

02:00:33.320 fizzle out because there's stupid civil war. And granted, I've been to a total of one Broadway show

02:00:39.460 and it was Hairspray in 2007. So I don't really have a stake in this, but they are talented people

02:00:45.980 and it sucks to watch this stuff happen, but that's what you get when you completely surrender to

02:00:51.720 these like lazy, reflexive arguments is you ultimately, uh, they're so circular and incoherent

02:00:58.340 that they will ultimately take you down with them. I will end it on a happy note. Not long ago,

02:01:04.180 the whole fam, all five of us went to Broadway. We keep trying, you know, we live close, so we go and

02:01:10.360 we can. And we saw, I don't remember seeing a show I enjoyed more. I did love back to the future,

02:01:16.040 but this show was spectacular. And my advice to everybody is run, don't walk to go see it.

02:01:25.140 It is called operation mincemeat and it is great. I mean, truly great. It's a musical. It's based on

02:01:35.660 the actual world war two operation mincemeat where this is, there's been a film made about it. I think

02:01:43.300 they, they recently redid it. Um, I feel like Colin Firth was in it. I didn't see the remake,

02:01:47.140 but I saw the 1948 version. And, um, that's because I married to Doug Brunt who lives for this crap.

02:01:52.400 And, uh, and, um, it's about a group of MI6 spies trying to come up with a way to fool

02:02:01.500 Hitler and, uh, the Nazis into believing that the allied forces were going to not invade Sicily,

02:02:10.480 that they, they were going to invade Italy, but to try to lead Hitler to believe it wouldn't be

02:02:16.420 Sicily that they would invade, that they would go to a different Island. And they had to come up with

02:02:21.060 a subterfuge, a plan that would fool him. And in a way that he would not know he had been fooled,

02:02:27.380 uh, into believing that the attack plans were focused on a different place.

02:02:31.820 And it's, it's all based on a true story. Uh, Ian Fleming is represented in there because he

02:02:36.840 worked for MI6, the guy who's the author of the, all the James Bond stories books and his

02:02:41.320 characters represented, but there's only five actors. I think it's, uh, two guys and three

02:02:45.740 gals, or maybe it's the verse three, three guys and two, two guys can't remember, but all five

02:02:49.620 play all the roles in the whole show. There are only these five actors. So they do the gender

02:02:55.460 bending thing, but not in a, not in a trans way in like an old school theater way where like

02:02:59.780 anybody can play anybody because you just want to get a great show on. And there is a man

02:03:04.880 who sings in this particular scene. He's playing, uh, like a widow, a widow to a man who died.

02:03:12.300 Uh, he sings a number called dear bill. Honestly, I like couldn't move after this number. I couldn't,

02:03:19.640 it was stunningly spectacular. It was stupendous. It was so gorgeous. It was emotional. It was

02:03:27.340 compelling. It was like, you just wanted to stand up and cheer for this guy who at first I was like,

02:03:31.500 he's kind of awkward. How did he get cast in a Broadway show? I wound up in love with him. I

02:03:35.360 mean, it's just like anything this guy is in, I would go to forgive me. Cause I don't have his

02:03:38.940 name in front of me. It was, it's been like six weeks since we went. Um, but go see operation

02:03:43.240 mincemeat. No, I'm not getting paid to say this more than likely the entire cast can't stand me.

02:03:47.560 I don't care. I loved it. And I really think everybody should go see it. So we end on a positive

02:03:52.080 note. There wasn't even a hint of wokeness, not even a hint, not a comment, nothing,

02:03:57.060 not like an off hand political jab at Trump or modern day culture, et cetera. It was all business

02:04:04.400 about world war two and this operation and just the frailty of humanity and the, the funny piccadillos

02:04:11.880 of people trying to make it in life. Just a lot, a lot to love. So anyway, Emily Jasinski,

02:04:17.540 you're a lot to love too. It's a pleasure to have you here whenever you come.

02:04:22.060 Megan, thank you so much for having me. It was a blast today, especially.

02:04:25.660 Awesome. All right. We'll do it again soon. And we're back tomorrow with Link Lauren and Stephen

02:04:30.960 A. Smith. We'll talk to him about how it went when Jake Tapper swung by the Stephen A. podcast.

02:04:35.800 It was a little contentious. We'll talk about it.

02:04:42.460 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

02:04:55.660 No BS, no視 on the other side.

02:05:03.960 Amen.

02:05:04.960 Thank you.

02:05:05.500 Alright.

02:05:05.800 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - June 02, 2025

Illegal Migrant Commits Terror Attack, and Left Turning on Each Other, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson ｜ Ep. 1084

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