The Megyn Kelly Show - March 13, 2026


ISIS-Linked Shooter Attacks ROTC Class, Pentagon Luxury Food “Scandal” Explained： AM Update 3⧸13

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missing retired Air Force general McCasland
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A former National Guardsman once convicted of providing support to ISIS, Iran threatens to shut down one of the world s most critical oil choke points as attacks on commercial ships mount and oil prices surge. Viral outrage over steak and lobster spending at the Pentagon. We ll get you the context critics leave out. A retired Air Force general tied to some of the Pentagon s most classified programs, including on UFOs, now missing for two weeks. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone.
00:00:34.280 I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party and the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up Show on SiriusXM Channel 111.
00:00:39.960 It's Friday, March 13, 2026.
00:00:42.600 This is your AM Update.
00:00:44.420 At approximately 10.43 this morning, the police department began receiving calls that there was an active shooter.
00:00:53.140 New details emerging about the suspect in the deadly shooting at Old Dominion University.
00:00:57.980 A former National Guardsman once convicted of providing support to ISIS.
00:01:03.300 Iran threatening to shut down one of the world's most critical oil choke points as attacks on commercial ships mount and oil prices surge.
00:01:13.260 They spent $15 million on steak in one month?
00:01:15.840 Who are you, Sterling Cooper Draper and Price?
00:01:17.940 Viral outrage over steak and lobster spending at the Pentagon.
00:01:22.380 We'll get you the context critics leave out.
00:01:25.300 A retired Air Force general tied to some of the Pentagon's most classified programs, including on UFOs, now missing for two weeks.
00:01:33.700 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:31.520 A shooting yesterday at Old Dominion University in Virginia, killing one and wounding three.
00:02:37.960 The gunman in the shooting, now identified as 36-year-old Mohamed Bailor Jallot,
00:02:42.800 a former Virginia Army National Guardsman, previously convicted of providing material support to ISIS.
00:02:49.860 Old Dominion Police Chief Garrett Shelton at a press conference yesterday describing the attack on the university.
00:02:55.680 At approximately 10.43 this morning, the ODU Police Department, as well as Norfolk Police Department,
00:03:03.340 began receiving calls through the 9-1-1 Center that there was an active shooter inside of Constant Hall,
00:03:11.560 located in Kauffman Mall area of Old Dominion University.
00:03:17.560 Constant Hall is a classroom academic facility, and we received information that there was someone,
00:03:24.140 that there were people being shot in one of the classrooms.
00:03:28.440 At approximately 10.47, the first officers arrived on scene and went to the room,
00:03:37.780 and by 10.50, it was determined that the subject that was the active assailant was deceased.
00:03:46.920 The New York Post reporting an ROTC student jumped into action, stabbing Jallot to death after the gunman shot the class instructor.
00:03:56.160 Two of the injured transported to the hospital where they are in stable condition.
00:04:00.560 A third, unidentified victim, also independently seeking medical treatment, and then released.
00:04:06.380 The U.S. Army Cadet Command, confirming two members of the ROTC program, were shot.
00:04:10.860 CBS News reporting Jallot walked into a classroom, asking if it was an ROTC class,
00:04:17.460 then opening fire after someone confirmed it was.
00:04:20.860 The outlet reporting the class instructor, a retired Army instructor, was fatally shot.
00:04:26.780 Classes canceled yesterday and today.
00:04:29.280 University President Brian Hemphill, sending a message to students,
00:04:32.520 Earlier today, Old Dominion University faced a tragedy on our main campus.
00:04:38.040 I am grateful for the swift response of our police officers and emergency personnel.
00:04:43.280 FBI Director Kash Patel, writing yesterday on X,
00:04:46.160 The shooter is now deceased thanks to a group of brave students who stepped in and subdued him,
00:04:52.520 actions that undoubtedly saved lives, along with the quick response of our law enforcement.
00:04:57.740 The FBI is now investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.
00:05:02.520 Jallot pleading guilty in 2016, meeting with someone he believed was helping coordinate a terror attack in the U.S.
00:05:09.500 and sending $500 to what he thought was an ISIS contact, but was really an undercover FBI agent.
00:05:16.420 A naturalized U.S. citizen from Sierra Leone, reportedly Jallot deciding not to re-enlist in the Guard
00:05:22.540 after listening to deceased al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki.
00:05:26.480 According to the DOJ at the time, Jallot praised the gunman who killed five U.S. service members in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
00:05:34.460 and expressed a desire to carry out an attack similar to the one at Fort Hood, which claimed 13 lives, wounding 32 more.
00:05:43.180 Jallot sentenced to 11 years in prison in 2017, but released in December of 2024, before completing the full term.
00:05:51.160 The reason for his early release is unclear.
00:05:54.920 Also yesterday, an attacker driving a truck carrying explosives into a Michigan synagogue and preschool.
00:06:02.220 Security for Temple Israel, located in West Bloomfield Township, firing at the suspect as he breached the building, killing him.
00:06:10.300 Investigators later finding the body in the vehicle, badly burned.
00:06:14.420 Aerial footage showing a plume of smoke emanating from the roof.
00:06:18.000 One security guard taken to the hospital after being struck by the vehicle reports the Daily Mail.
00:06:24.280 He is expected to recover.
00:06:26.340 The New York Times reporting eight first responders requiring treatment at hospitals for unspecified injuries.
00:06:32.600 Fortunately, no students or staff were injured in the attack.
00:06:36.700 Also in the vehicle, authorities recovering a rifle and a, quote, large amount of explosives.
00:06:42.120 Fox News reporting the vehicle is registered to a naturalized U.S. citizen from Lebanon, living in Dearborn, Michigan, located about 30 miles away.
00:06:51.820 According to DropSite news reporter Ryan Grimm, the suspect identified as Eamon Ghazale.
00:06:57.980 Overnight Wednesday, Ghazale posting photos of his family members, including two young children, who were reportedly killed in an Israeli strike on Lebanon.
00:07:06.440 The incident is under investigation, authorities reportedly probing whether multiple assailants were involved.
00:07:14.460 The new supreme leader of Iran, Mostavah Khomeini, making his first public statement since being selected to succeed his father.
00:07:22.040 Khomeini vowing to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed, saying the move is necessary to, quote, pressure the enemy.
00:07:28.580 Khomeini also warning that all U.S. military bases in the region should be shut down as Iranian forces prepare possible attacks.
00:07:35.620 Those comments coming just a day after a spokesman for the Iranian military threatened to drive oil prices as high as $200 per barrel.
00:07:45.640 President Trump responding on Truth Social, writing, quote,
00:07:48.420 The United States is the largest oil producer in the world by far, so when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money.
00:07:55.860 But a far greater interest and importance to me as president is stopping an evil empire, Iran, from having nuclear weapons and destroying the Middle East. 0.99
00:08:04.640 And indeed, the world.
00:08:07.060 Oil prices closing yesterday just above $100 a barrel, rising 9.2 percent, the largest one-day jump since 2020, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:08:17.440 The Strait of Hormuz, the narrow shipping corridor connecting the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman, normally carrying roughly one-fifth of the world's oil supply.
00:08:26.980 Traffic now dramatically slowing since the start of Operation Epic Fury.
00:08:30.880 Reuters reporting at least 16 commercial ships have been struck since the conflict began, including two fuel tankers attacked Wednesday by Iranian vessels in Iraqi waters, leaving one crew member dead.
00:08:43.300 The Iranian Revolutionary Guard repeatedly warning it will target any ships attempting to pass through the strategic choke point.
00:08:50.580 President Trump previously saying U.S. Navy vessels could escort oil tankers through the strait if necessary, though there is no indication those escorts have begun.
00:09:01.060 At a Women's History Month event at the White House yesterday, President Trump briefly mentioning the operation.
00:09:06.380 The situation with Iran is moving along very rapidly.
00:09:11.640 It's doing very well.
00:09:13.760 Our military is unsurpassed.
00:09:15.340 There's never been anything like it.
00:09:16.620 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
00:09:18.520 And we're doing what has to be done.
00:09:20.220 Should have been done during a 47-year period.
00:09:23.560 Could have been done by a lot of different people.
00:09:25.340 They chose not to do it.
00:09:26.820 But they really are a nation of terror and hate. 0.86
00:09:30.760 And they're paying a big price right now.
00:09:33.200 Coming up, a viral outrage over steak and lobster at the Pentagon.
00:09:39.960 But the full story tells a very different tale.
00:09:42.780 And a retired Air Force general who once worked on some of the Pentagon's most secretive programs, now missing for two weeks.
00:09:50.200 The FBI joining the search.
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00:10:43.020 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth under a wave of criticism tied to what is framed as lavish spending at the Pentagon.
00:10:52.020 A new report from an external government watchdog finds that Pete Hegseth's Pentagon was already on a massive spending spree before the war began, dropping $15 million on steak and another $6.9 million on lobster tail.
00:11:06.620 They spent $15 million on steak in one month? Who are you, Sterling Cooper Draper and Price?
00:11:11.340 If you had a damn Costco card, you could have got all that stuff cheaper if you were gonna do it. 0.98
00:11:17.360 They're just hearkening back to our founders. 0.99
00:11:19.820 As Paul Revere declared on his famous ride, one if by surf, two if by turf.
00:11:25.520 The outrage spreading quickly this week across Twitter, cable news, and late night television.
00:11:31.240 But the problem? A closer look at the reporting shows the story is far less sensational than it first appears.
00:11:37.580 It all began Monday with a post from the government watchdog group, Open the Books.
00:11:43.060 The Substack report headlined, quote,
00:11:45.100 Pentagon should focus on defense priorities, not lavish dinners, after historic $93.4 billion use-it-or-lose-it September.
00:11:54.220 Open the Books explaining, with September marking the end of the federal fiscal year,
00:11:58.220 the Department of War entering what budget analysts call a use-it-or-lose-it spending cycle.
00:12:04.140 Quote,
00:12:04.580 Defense officials typically enter the end of each fiscal year with at least one goal in mind,
00:12:10.180 spend the rest of the military's budget.
00:12:12.700 Otherwise, use-it-or-lose-it funding rules can force the Pentagon to forfeit unused money
00:12:17.760 and potentially see reduced funding the following year.
00:12:20.620 The investigation breaking down spending on food purchases, including $2 million on Alaskan king crab,
00:12:27.380 $15.1 million of ribeye steak, $1 million of salmon, $139,224 on donuts, and $124,000 on ice cream machines.
00:12:40.400 Stephen L. Miller of Versus Media tracing how a small Substack report quickly snowballed into a political scandal.
00:12:47.460 That little tidbit went viral over with the blue skis and then also on Twitter X and right into mainstream media,
00:12:55.140 largely pushed by the exact same bad disinformation actors that push all of these.
00:13:01.300 The first person that really pushed this was Molly Jongfast, Jameel Hill of The Atlantic.
00:13:09.140 But SNAP recipients are the real problem. 0.77
00:13:12.340 Maddie Hassan, hey Doge, pointing down to Molly Jongfast's post.
00:13:17.460 Rick Wilson of The Lincoln Project also ran with this in a repost.
00:13:21.560 Norman Ornstein, it's about the grift, it's always about the grift.
00:13:25.140 Gavin Newsom, press office.
00:13:27.280 Hey Nick, Shirley, any insight here?
00:13:29.400 Newsom's office then put out an AI meme of Hegseth sitting in a recliner surrounded by ribeyes and seafood.
00:13:35.460 Adam Kinzinger did the same.
00:13:37.820 Mediaite Pete Hegseth's defense department blew $22 million on steak and lobster in a single month.
00:13:43.340 Watchdog claims.
00:13:44.720 The chattering class having a field day. 1.00
00:13:47.940 Here's an example from CNN political commentator Paul Begala.
00:13:51.760 He has spent $15 million in one month for ribeye steak, $6.9 million for lobster tail, $225 million for furniture.
00:14:01.080 He spent more in the month of September than most countries on earth spend in their defense.
00:14:04.500 All for himself?
00:14:07.040 Lobster tails?
00:14:07.860 Do you believe-
00:14:08.260 While our troops are eating MREs?
00:14:09.760 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:14:10.180 Lobster tails?
00:14:10.920 Do you believe the Secretary of Defense is personally eating all the lobster?
00:14:14.440 Wait, he can't eat 60-
00:14:15.500 It's for the troops.
00:14:15.980 Oh, really?
00:14:16.900 The troops are getting lobster?
00:14:17.900 Frequently in theater, troops who are going to work in great meals.
00:14:21.240 You know that.
00:14:21.940 They're getting lobster.
00:14:22.980 You are so full of it.
00:14:23.940 Commentator Scott Jennings, the other voice in that clip, proving right.
00:14:30.640 Washington Examiner reporter Selena Zito adding some historical context to the debate, writing on X quote,
00:14:36.840 If you've never covered the military, or served, or if you don't have family or friends in the military, this would seem like a shocking story.
00:14:44.160 But it's not.
00:14:45.000 Not even remotely.
00:14:45.720 It is a common practice for our country to provide these special meals to our servicemen and women, a tradition that has existed for decades.
00:14:54.400 Zito resurfacing a 2009 report from a journalist embedded with U.S. troops in Afghanistan, writing, quote,
00:15:00.760 The lobsters and crab legs are shipped from the United States and driven down on a refrigerated truck from Bagram.
00:15:07.040 The report continuing, quote,
00:15:08.320 On seafood night, the crew serves up 400 of the tasty tails, 130 pounds of Alaskan king crab legs, and 135 pounds each of shrimp and scallops.
00:15:19.460 Zito pointing to a real clear investigations report from September 2024,
00:15:23.940 Under the Biden administration, finding, quote,
00:15:26.760 The military spent $103.7 million on meat, fish, and poultry, including $16.6 million on ribeye steak,
00:15:34.840 and 147 orders of lobster tail for $6.1 million.
00:15:39.840 Despite many commentators treating the story as an easy political slam dunk,
00:15:44.240 Even some of Hegseth's critics stepping in to correct the narrative.
00:15:48.740 Activist and veteran Charlotte Clymer, writing on X, quote,
00:15:51.780 The people angry over the Pentagon buying millions of dollars worth of steak and lobster are worried about the wrong thing.
00:15:57.880 You assume it's for Hegseth and the other officials in the Pentagon.
00:16:00.580 That is incorrect.
00:16:01.720 Steak and lobster are often served to troops on the eve of a deployment or before a particularly hazardous mission.
00:16:08.020 As for the troops themselves, they appear to be enjoying the tradition just fine,
00:16:12.900 as demonstrated in one of the many TikToks capturing military mess halls.
00:16:17.300 But this defect has steak and lobster. 0.81
00:16:21.760 How's it steak and lobster?
00:16:23.180 About right. 0.91
00:16:23.800 Damn near decent. 0.70
00:16:24.860 How's it? 0.97
00:16:25.500 I'm ready for war.
00:16:27.960 We're going to war. 0.85
00:16:29.160 The FBI assisting in the search for a missing retired Air Force general who once ran a research lab
00:16:37.380 at a military base rumored to hold classified UFO material.
00:16:41.840 Retired Air Force Major General William Neal McCasland, 68 years old,
00:16:46.600 last seen two weeks ago at his home in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
00:16:50.540 According to the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office,
00:16:53.140 McCasland leaving his house on foot around 11 a.m. on February 27th.
00:16:57.660 And he has not been seen since.
00:17:00.040 The Sheriff's Office telling CNN that McCasland's cell phone was left behind at the residence.
00:17:05.460 Authorities using a silver alert the following day,
00:17:08.540 noting McCasland has an unspecified medical condition, increasing urgency in the search.
00:17:13.740 Investigators expanding the search across the neighborhood,
00:17:16.500 reaching out to hundreds of residents and contacting more than 600 homeowners.
00:17:21.400 Last week, the Sheriff's Office releasing a statement reading,
00:17:24.180 It is unlike Neal to be out of touch from his family and friends for this length of time.
00:17:29.740 During his decades in the Air Force, McCasland holding a series of senior roles.
00:17:34.380 According to his bio, McCasland working on a number of advanced defense and space programs,
00:17:40.140 including leading the space-based laser project,
00:17:43.280 serving as vice commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center,
00:17:46.580 and later directing special programs at the Pentagon.
00:17:49.460 McCasland also serving as commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory
00:17:53.840 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio,
00:17:57.020 a facility that has long-fueled speculation about Roswell-related debris,
00:18:01.420 though the military denies those claims.
00:18:03.800 In retirement, McCasland at one point working as a key advisor
00:18:07.220 to Blink-182 co-founder Tom DeLong on UFO disclosure-related projects,
00:18:12.940 according to Newsweek.
00:18:14.080 Former Defense Department intelligence officer and UAP investigator Luis Elizondo telling CNN
00:18:20.560 he hopes the case is not one involving a former senior officer being targeted,
00:18:26.260 adding,
00:18:26.600 Whether or not his disappearance had anything to do
00:18:29.480 with any legacy involvement he may have had in UAP research,
00:18:33.340 I prefer to allow law enforcement the necessary time to do their work before speculating.
00:18:38.360 McCasland's wife, Susan McCasland-Wilkerson,
00:18:40.760 addressing online rumors in a Facebook post,
00:18:42.800 writing that while her husband once had access to classified programs during his Air Force career,
00:18:48.380 he retired nearly 13 years ago,
00:18:50.420 and it's unlikely anyone would target him for outdated secrets.
00:18:54.340 Investigators say they have not uncovered evidence of foul play so far,
00:18:58.180 but stress that all possible scenarios remain under review.
00:19:02.140 McCasland is described as 5'11 with white hair and blue eyes,
00:19:06.280 the sheriff's department asking anyone with information,
00:19:08.720 or surveillance footage from the area to contact investigators
00:19:12.700 through the evidence submission portal at burncosdnm.evidence.com.
00:19:22.220 That'll do it for your AM update.
00:19:24.100 I'm Annalie Drashinsky, host of After Party.
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