Jews Targeted in ＂Day of Rage,＂ and the Money Behind Trans Movement, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Noah Rothman, and Jennifer Bilek
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Summary
A world on edge and America on alert as Hamas' call for a day of rage appears to be living up to its name. Here at home, authorities have increased police presence around Jewish schools and synagogues, the NYPD has ordered all officers to report to work today, and a suspected terror attack in northern France has already left one teacher dead, several others critically wounded. Meanwhile, another attack caught on video in which a man who works at the Israeli embassy was stabbed.
Transcript
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We like to walk that fine line between techno thriller
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Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Here at home, authorities have increased police presence
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The NYPD has ordered all officers to report to work today.
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In northern France, a suspected terror attack at a school has already left one teacher dead,
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several others critically wounded, stabbed, we are told.
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The suspect, a man in his early 20s and of Chechen origin, reportedly shouted,
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Those words to me are just associated with this kind of death and destruction.
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we're seeing reports that he is a former student at that school.
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His younger brother, coincidentally, has also been detained.
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5,000 miles away in Beijing, another attack caught on video.
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In it, you will see a man who works at the Israeli embassy being stabbed.
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A hate-filled man ready to plunge the knife in.
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It is unclear what transpired before this attack.
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We don't know much about the suspect, but reports suggest he was not Chinese.
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Elsewhere, we're seeing an absolute lack of regard for the innocent lives that have been destroyed.
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In London yesterday, women were caught on video,
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this is disgusting, tearing down posters of Israeli victims.
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Furious that anyone would dare to call attention to those who have been kidnapped by terrorists,
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and we know those who have been kidnapped, include women and young children.
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Back here in the U.S., on campus after campus, many young people are showing where their allegiance lies,
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The one chant hard to hear, but it's important to know what they said.
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It happened at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia.
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You want to be a we with the ones who are murdering babies.
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Wait until you submit your resume to my company or the company of any self-respecting lover of humanity.
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Not fighters, but terrorists to carry out this past Saturday's deadly attack.
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The hate being spewed on our college campuses proving too much to bear.
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And who could blame her for a Jewish girl at the University of Washington?
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Can I just, before we air this, just think about what's been happening on the college campuses where, I mean, for anything and everything you have these people saying, I feel dehumanized.
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This woman just had her people attacked in a massive terror attack in Israel where people who look like her, who share her faith, were brutally cut down at age 20, at age two.
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And she's got to look at people who are sympathizing with the murderers two feet from her on a college campus.
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I'm not saying that our free speech laws don't allow it.
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I don't, I don't know whether this is a funded, a publicly funded university or not, but my point is, this actually is a dehumanizing situation.
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This actually is a situation in which she might truly feel, quote, unsafe.
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This word that has been perpetuated on every college campus or the stupidest non-existent slights.
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But when it's an actual Jewish woman afraid at the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas people right next to her chanting things like from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, which means no more Israel.
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Watch this as she appears to beg a school administrator to intervene.
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We like to walk that fine line between techno thriller and romantic comedy.
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Joining me now is someone who knows all too well what radicalization can do.
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Ayaan Hirsi Ali, human rights activist and founder of the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Foundation.
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And for those who don't know Ayaan's background, she grew up in Somalia and underwent all sorts of difficult experiences which have been well documented and managed, though you found yourself surrounded by Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists, to get yourself out of that and find an entirely new life.
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And you've been a brave spokesperson against these kinds of atrocities ever since.
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So Ayaan, I haven't had the chance to talk to you since Saturday's events.
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And how are you reacting right now to what's unfolded?
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So I'm seeing everything that you described and more.
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And I'm looking at the different countries, of course, the United States, where we're seeing an entire generation that have been brainwashed to react against their own values, against their own country, against their own civilization.
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There was a call from Hamas and other radicals calling on all Muslims to take to the streets and to protest.
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And you don't see much of that in the Arab world today.
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So I think, you know, in a horrific context, we are seeing some progress there.
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And I remember, as we were reflecting on 9-11, and I was in Amsterdam at that time, there was this big question, how could this happen?
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And now you have different levels of complacency.
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So Israel momentarily forgot about the enemy that wants to wipe them off the map.
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And they were fighting amongst themselves about reforming their Supreme Court.
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You know, I wish that Israelis could behave like other democracies.
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I wish that they could have their internal disputes and forget that they have this external enemy that wants to exterminate them.
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But the price of distraction is what they're paying now.
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Even for us in America, 9-11, 2001, and in Europe, you know, 7-7, 2000, I believe that was five.
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And then a series of jihadi terrorist attacks in Europe.
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I find that Western nations are really complacent.
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We've gone back to forgetting about what happened.
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Every time we get a lull, you know, ISIS was taken down by the Trump administration.
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I think we lulled ourselves back into sleep, into thinking this jihadi monster is gone for good.
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We forget that there are two components to this.
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There is jihad, there is the violence, the terrorism.
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And we unleash our security and police forces, and sometimes, when necessary, our military forces on them.
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But what we truly forget is the DAO aspect of it.
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The exercises, the efforts to brainwash small children, teenagers, adults in universities and beyond.
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So when you look at our campuses and you see, you know, our kids, these are our kids in legacy universities, chanting on and cheering on an entity that just committed the most barbaric, most heinous attacks on babies, on grandmothers.
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Then you really have to ask yourself, all the governing boards, the presidents of these universities, what are we doing to our own kids?
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These kids who go to Columbia and Yale and Stanford and Harvard and on and on, these are the people who are going to be running our country.
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They are the ones who are coming to leadership positions, and that doesn't look promising.
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And aside from that, so look at what happened right now to Israel.
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They got momentarily distracted with internal issues, and the existential enemy came around and took advantage of that opportunity.
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We in America, we have Putin, we're assisting as much as we can, Ukraine, and there we have an enemy that sees an opportunity and an opening every time we engage and indulge in infighting.
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And he, Putin, and his administration, they divide us, and they know how to divide us, and they take advantage of dividing us, and so does China, and so does Iran that assisted Hamas in carrying out this attack.
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So we have enemies that are prepared, that are intent upon destroying us, and upon dividing us, and over and over again, we give them the opportunity to do just that.
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And I think, I mean, for a few, maybe two or three years after ISIS was defeated, I felt a sense of hope, hope for Arabs and Muslims that they had seen with their eyes what the so-called Islamic State was, not the utopia that they promised, but a place of gruesome brutality and cruelty,
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where they behead people, where they behead people, enslave, rape women, kill children, and then program those children with hatred.
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So everyone saw what the Islamic State was all about, right?
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And so for a while, I thought, okay, the Arab world, they have seen those, the youth of the Arab world, they know what it is and they don't like this.
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And then I thought, what about our Muslim minorities in America and in Europe?
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And no, they haven't, because the programming effort that is carried out by a movement like the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, and, you know, a panoply of radical Islamic networks that are active and feel themselves protected on American soil, on European soil.
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So they carry on programming using free speech when it suits them, freedom of speech, freedom of religion when it suits them, freedom of association when it suits them to program our kids and our populations with hatred.
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And when we speak out against that, they say speech is violence.
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And unfortunately for us, they've captured the hearts and minds of our own kids, non-Muslims, moderate Muslims, even Jewish kids.
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You know, last time I spoke to a friend of mine who is active in the, you know, fight against anti-Semitism space.
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And I was asking her, why is it that so many of my Jewish friends are not fighting, they're not standing up against against wokeism because wokeism, identity politics, it's many things, but it's especially anti-Semitic.
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And it is through these woke, you know, critical race theory, the whole gender politics, this intersectionality, that is used as a pathway to make hatred of Jews acceptable again.
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She said, you know what, I just think that Jewish people really, they just want to live and let others live.
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Unfortunately, Hamas and the radicals don't want to let them live.
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The shocking thing is, and, you know, you and I have talked many times over the years, including during the height of the ISIS atrocities, the country, we were unified against that.
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You know, maybe there were a few fringy, weird radicals in the United States who said, yeah, OK, they've got a point.
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I don't know who those were, but they didn't have any sort of a voice that was getting attention here.
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You know, at campus after campus, both at the university, you know, administrative level and at the student level, not to mention some of these, you know, the democratic socialists, open rallies in support of, it's got to be said, Hamas.
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It happened in some instances while the Hamas attacks were going on, while the terror attacks were going on.
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You've been warning for a long time about the open borders problem, in particular in Europe, and how the influx in some cases of radicalized Muslim men and others is changing the culture as we knew it in places like France and elsewhere and in our own home as well.
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But in particular, we talked all about this when I first launched the show because you just had a new book out about France.
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I thought of you this morning as we saw these Paris-France protests.
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What they're saying in French is we are all Palestinians, and they're saying it with fervor.
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the signs read israel criminal and these people are defying in france you can't protest freely
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like you can here in the united states there's uh actually a crackdown on the protest but they
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came out anyway this is how important it was to them to make sure we knew they felt israel was a
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criminal and the cheers of jubilation jubilation in the wake of murdered children raped women
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day you know to 1200 dead israelis they're they're thrilled ayan how does it all relate
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well i think this is very well documented the fifth column in france the presence for many many years
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of these programming networks the dawa networks that brainwash all these people that you've seen
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many of them really born in france maybe even their parents were born in france so this is very very
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well documented and this is a conundrum for france but increasingly also for other european countries
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what do you do because you have freedom of religion and freedom of speech and all of these freedoms
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that these uh jihadist programmers they take advantage of these people learned to think and to chant what
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they're chanting not in egypt not uh in the middle east not in any islamic country but in france
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and it's well documented it's well known and we've known it now for decades um but i guess the french
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government and french society um talk about it they write about it they discuss it all the time
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it features in their politics but they don't seem to have found a way out of this conundrum
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and i don't think now and now in france five people are stabbed attacked and at least one man
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dead as a result of this his name uh per the son is dominique bernand a french literate literature
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teacher aged someplace in his 40s again reports of about five people being stabbed go ahead megan
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it's more frightening than just that you've seen now the crowds that you just showed me but there's
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another issue that nobody wants to talk about and there's the demographic crisis in france in italy in
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spain in britain all of these european countries the people who are chanting this are very young
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and they're numerous and they have more babies than everybody else and the french are growing old
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they're retiring they're not having children and i remember a muslim brotherhood prominent um you know
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inspirer of this yusuf al-qaradawi uh when they would carry out some of these terrorist attacks that
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they considered jihad yusuf al-qaradawi would say to them you know what you don't need to use you don't
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need to carry out terrorist attacks you the the most important strategy for you to follow
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is to bring in as many immigrants as possible and to have as many babies as possible
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and that is how you take over europe without firing a single shot and so you look at this
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phenomenon now and you just see over time uh if things go the way they're going and the french
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governments and society they do nothing about this this is just going to be a natural process
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of replacement um and displacement so i think the future right now um it's it's pretty grim for france
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i almost want to say grimmer for france than it is for israel but what happened in israel is a wake-up
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call i hope i hope it is yes we've had so many wake-up calls i don't know where to begin
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9-11 was the big bang and in between you saw all of those these people don't hide what they believe
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in they don't hide their agenda it's on the internet it's on social media it's everywhere
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they say it to us they want to destroy us and then we make excuses for them and i hope with this event
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we learn from it and we stop making excuses and we strategize about how to deal with this
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while we still can instead we're putting them in charge of media organizations and in college
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campuses as university professors in law schools as law school as the next generation of up-and-coming
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lawyers we've seen that this week too and that brings me to stanford uh where you are and at stanford
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an instructor a teaching assistant uh was just suspended that's it they didn't name him but we
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will for a little stunt he pulled uh the rabbi at the stanford jewish center came forward and outed
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this guy because the rabbi was told by three students that this instructor whose name is amir hassan
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login according to campus reform they're identifying him and this man got his class together in a
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required undergraduate course called civil liberal and global education told the jewish students to
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take their things stand in a corner and said this is what israel does to the palestinians uh and then
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asked how many people died in the holocaust when one student answered six million reporting here uh quoting
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from uh forward magazine the lecturer said colonizers killed more than six million israel is a colonizer
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stanford's response was to remove the instructor from teaching duties again it's a suspension
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they did not name him and they did not provide details of the incident their explanation was he addressed
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the middle east conflict in a manner that called out individual students in class based on their
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backgrounds and identities um that's not exactly the full problem stanford we stanford's turned into
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ground zero in a lot of these problems you know with the the ridiculous rape accusations and them
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buying into that and the blm stuff and the lgbtq and now this i mean they're other than the hoover
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institution i on they're on the wrong side of virtually all of these things because again it is this
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diversity equity and inclusion it's not about the core task the job of a university is to teach kids
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how to think not what to think but then this fringe i mean in you said in uh nine after 9-11
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uh we were all united except for this fringe and you know these these weirdos but now it's the fringe
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and the weirdos that run the show and they got themselves positions where they are in by invoking
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diversity equity and inclusion and then deploying this diversity equity and inclusion brigade of
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administrators and so now we are kowtowing to them we're actually scared of this guy
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um because of what he could unleash um because of what he could unleash administratively speaking at
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stanford i know i can vouch that for most students at stanford and faculty they don't agree with him
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they're horrified just like we are but we're all terrified of this diverse diversity equity and
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inclusion police that we have brought on as a matter of tolerance and i think there was a strategy
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a narrative that took hold in the 2000s and the 2010s that if only we include these various people
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identities minorities then things will be great and we'll we'll find ourselves in a utopia
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no no the fringe were a fringe for a reason because their ideas were outlandish and inhuman
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and tyrannical and they are on it's all power centered and all they want is to destroy us and our
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structures and our institutions they haven't changed their agenda we have to get wake up and end this
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complacency now still uh notwithstanding what we've seen this week you get people peppering the
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israeli israeli leaders with questions like how dare you how could you possibly cut off the food and
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the water supply into gaza gaza which is just committed a mass murder of the israeli citizens
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how could you and we saw an interesting exchange on this uh between it was the israeli president
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isaac herzog and a uk broadcaster channel 4 asking that question take a listen it's soundbite 6
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question is this if i may you seem to hold the people of gaza the civilians of gaza responsible for
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not removing hamas and therefore by implication that makes them legitimate targets no i didn't say
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that but i did not say that i want to make it clear i was asked something about separating civilians
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from hamas but with all the respect with all the respect if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen
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and you want to shoot it at me am i allowed to defend myself yes no one is denying these missiles
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are there these missiles are launched the button is pressed the missile comes out from the kitchen
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onto my children but right and yet israel's being asked to keep supplies going to those folks
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it's well documented it's well documented that hamas installs i mean and fights you know their sites for
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launching rockets are in people's kitchens and in people's neighborhoods among civilians you know why
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because hamas constantly again they don't hide their agenda they say over and over again you guys you
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love life we love death and that's what hamas is doing to palestinians to their own people
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putting rocket launching sites amongst themselves indoctrinating and programming their kids strapping
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bombs on palestinian kids and for this i don't i didn't see the guy who's asking the question but you
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know various branches of the united nations amnesty international which has been corrupted human rights
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watch which has been corrupted all of these organizations they need to see that if there is an
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organization that is using their own children palestinian children as weapons palestinian women
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palestinian the elderly people they're just using them as fodder you know as ammunition
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and for them for hamas it's only about their nihilistic utopia
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they they say constantly we want to destroy israel by any means and by any means they mean their own
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kids their own people that's exactly right i don't think you can make excuses for there's no way that
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you're glaring we're looking staring evil in the face this is what hamas is hamas is it's isis
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and i think the longer you you extend this the more lives it impacts the more human suffering it
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causes on both sides hamas needs to be taken out and i think the entire world every decent human
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being should stand behind the goal of taking out hamas completely and then i think peace and
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prosperity between the people of israel and the palestinians has a chance you know the a couple
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years ago i think it was 2016 um i can't remember which group it was they put they put this together
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they went and they interviewed palestinian children about how they feel about the israelis
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who want peace the israelis wanted to be left alone that's what they pulled out of gaza they said
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you it's your territory you guys go do with it what you will what you will elected hamas a terrorist
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group and and they started bombing israel hence the blockade hence israel saying all right fine
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that's what you want to do but still israel allowed hamas to come into israel work people from gaza to
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come into israel and work there there was a story in the new york times the daily podcast today with
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an israeli man talking about how his wife would regularly i think once a week go and pick up children
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from gaza and bring them to israeli hospitals so they could get uh diabetes treatments like dialysis
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once a week trying to help the children thinking you know what maybe we're on the road to peace
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and then we saw that soundbite from the hamas leader just yesterday saying we we fooled them all
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we we stayed quiet for two and a half years letting them think that we were actually going to go toward
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the peace process process but the whole time he's proud he's excited we worked toward this attack the
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entire time we were working toward it and was thrilled that they had managed to fool israel but on
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the subject of the children ian and what we discussed at the top of the hour too what how how are they
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raising their children the israelis want peace they are not raising their children to hate the
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palestinians at all and yet in palestine this is from 2016 i'll read for the watching audience on
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youtube you can see it for yourself a listening audience i'll read what the children are saying watch
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we have to make war to prove we are stronger than the jews people of palestine and they're ready to
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die for it i'm ready to stab the jew and drive a car over them i will fight
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you have to constantly stab them drive over them shoot them the jews and it goes on little one saying
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i can't wait to join isis and kill jews i mean these are babes these are single digit children
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and my heart breaks for them because they have been put in these so-called madrasas it's really
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programming centers and they've been programmed this way and they're not learning anything to
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learn how to live and flourish in this world they're not learning maths science language you know all the
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things that we care about that we think you know as a child this is what will help you if you want to
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build you know an economic spiritual you know political social life that's not what these kids are
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getting these kids are just being turned into destroyers by people who like to destroy and just
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for the sake of those children i think hamas should be destroyed and the reason is they will keep doing
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this to every generation and they will keep spreading this they've spread i lived in nairobi kenya i grew up
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a somali uh we had our own problems but when the muslim brotherhood came to our neighborhoods that's what
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they were teaching us you know we we were praying for the destruction of the jews none of us had ever
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seen a jew we we couldn't the first time i saw a jew i was disappointed because i saw a human being
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walking in antwerp in belgium and i thought oh that's a jew and it was like i don't know like a
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kid going to disneyland and expecting this horrific monster with ears and a nose and all the pictures that
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we used to see and it was just a man with his skin and i thought that's all i mean that's a jew but
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that's how the indoctrination how the programming works and this is they've done hamas the muslim
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brotherhood these radical islamists they've done this to generations of people just really poisoned
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and contaminated their brains and i feel fortunate that i don't think that way anymore and one of the
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reasons why i continue to speak out and to tell please don't be upset with those kids they're just
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kids they're trusting and the adults they trust they're the ones who are putting them in that position
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moreover i've spoken to arabs and palestinians and when the cameras are off there's no one watching
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they hate it they're over they're done with this
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it's they don't like it hamas has them hostage so this is really a message to the people who say they
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care about palestinians and arabs and muslims we really should get rid of organizations like hamas
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because as they say they love death so for those of us who love life we have to unite regardless of
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our backgrounds and our religions and we really need to get rid of them get them out
00:33:50.200
as you said always call out always call out yeah always call out their ideologies in our universities
00:33:58.440
in our corporations in our churches on our streets in our media i i don't think we should have any
00:34:03.540
more patience with this type of thing there's no more excuses to be made for it and this guy at
00:34:08.760
stanford ought to be fired along with all the other university professors who are speaking out
00:34:12.640
i think it's more than firing began i think it's more than i think we need to completely review this
00:34:17.760
issue this whole diversity equity thing has gone way too far and i think all of the universities
00:34:23.640
they need to get and have serious adult discussion about what the heck is this and how did we allow
00:34:30.180
it and we need to reform our universities fast yeah we talked yesterday about the the big donor at
00:34:38.240
upenn who was calling for exactly that saying this is the dei thing's gone too far we've all been
00:34:43.180
complicit the board of trustees the big donors it's all linked and it needs to be rolled back i want to
00:34:49.680
tell the audience uh the people behind that video was the center for near east policy research
00:34:53.860
they provided this material to congress as part of an investigation into schools and also ayan she's
00:34:59.960
written many books but the book i was referring to is called pray p-r-e-y immigration islam and the
00:35:06.940
erosion of women's rights so good to see you thank you for being with us ayan oh megan thank you so
00:35:12.720
much and thank you for the work you do i think this really needs to be heard thank you oh all the best
00:35:17.920
okay we're going to be right back with national reviews noah rothman don't go away
00:35:22.380
welcome back to the megan kelly show our next guest wrote this in his latest column about what we are
00:35:30.700
witnessing today quote the sentence you are about to read would be incomprehensible to the average
00:35:35.300
american just two decades ago 22 years after the september 11th attacks new york city's jewish
00:35:41.140
residents are keeping a low profile amid the unrest that is expected today the day of jihad
00:35:48.160
noah rothman of national review joins me now noah it's absolutely stunning it's deeply disturbing i've
00:35:55.160
been talking to my jewish friends in new york all week and they are getting similar warnings they uh my
00:36:03.560
one friend kept her daughter home from school today because she was so scared she was too afraid to go
00:36:07.960
into her her public school um when her other son got to a private school it's not a jewish school
00:36:14.500
it's you know there's a high jewish population in new york so there's a fair amount of jewish kids
00:36:18.240
there he they he arrived to uh armed security guards all over the place and guard dogs that's how he had
00:36:25.340
to enter his school today because of the quote day of jihad which has already taken lives in paris
00:36:30.680
in beijing and unfortunately i'm sure we're not done what do you put it in perspective for us
00:36:36.960
it's been profoundly hardening i will say to see some otherwise reliable progressive voices
00:36:48.220
um good liberals honest democrats watch the scales fall from their eyes as they see their compatriots
00:36:57.220
sympathize with the slaughter of israeli citizens the murder of senior citizens the immolation
00:37:06.820
of whole families people uh sheltering their children in their arms covered in the blood
00:37:13.240
of their children begging for the lives of their remaining young and i hope that it lasts
00:37:19.280
i don't suspect it will there is a impulse on the left which has been documented now by
00:37:27.480
um good democratic uh jews over the course of the last decade which imparts to their
00:37:33.540
co-partisans the kind of generosity of spirit they have that they see themselves and everyone else
00:37:40.060
they perceive themselves to be sophisticates to be capable of comprehending the nuance of the situation
00:37:45.380
to be beyond these uh manichaean notions of good and evil gauche but they're not and every time they
00:37:54.520
they convince themselves of this they are ultimately betrayed by the people who are supposedly on their side
00:38:01.140
because the real evil the profound evil is in us it is in the west it isn't it is in israel it is in
00:38:09.200
the jews this isn't about israel hasn't been about the borders of israel the status of jerusalem the
00:38:14.120
existence of the jewish state for a very long time it's the jews who are being targeted in western
00:38:18.780
european countries in new york city not about israel this was an attack on jews for being jews and there
00:38:25.760
are people who think that's appropriate that makes sense their lives are not as valuable as our own
00:38:30.980
a lot of democrats right now are confronting these sentiments and saying this is not me and i don't
00:38:35.080
i don't accept that i don't condone that but when the partisan boundary lines reform around this
00:38:40.160
contest around this conflict and it's the right that's on one side and the left that's on another
00:38:44.320
negative partisanship will kick back in and all these revelations of this week will again be
00:38:49.880
compartmentalized and subordinated to the need to rally around the team i hope it doesn't happen
00:38:55.220
but i hope it doesn't i suggest i think it will you i mean better than anybody we've talked about
00:39:01.380
your amazing book the new puritans many times and i've referenced it many times when you haven't been
00:39:07.400
here because i have yet to read something that did a better job of pointing out just the absurdity of
00:39:12.500
what upsets the woke cancel culturers who have taken over our college campuses i mean could you as the
00:39:19.000
man who literally wrote the book put in perspective like the minor grievances that these same people
00:39:24.600
who are now defending mass murder in israel managed to get themselves worked up into a lather over
00:39:30.980
about two minutes ago yes so uh that was a more satirical look at the social justice movement
00:39:38.820
my first book um was a much darker look at the social justice movement unjust and the social unjust
00:39:44.580
and the unmaking of america um and one of the features that are one of the intellectual fads that i
00:39:49.740
dissect in that book is this phenomenon of intersectionality intersectionality is sort of
00:39:54.580
useful useful useful thought experiment it compels you to see the world in a series of racialist
00:40:01.360
bigoted stereotypes in order to deconstruct those stereotypes ostensibly but the practical effect of
00:40:07.840
this ideology and marinating in it is to impart to you a worldview that is predicated on bigotries it makes
00:40:15.380
you see the world in a series of stereotypes to flatten individuals to make them into binaries and it's very
00:40:22.580
chauvinistic it views the world in a very um american sort of understanding of the world and in the american
00:40:30.360
understanding of stereotypes of bigotries jews are not an oppressed people they control the media
00:40:37.220
they are in high finance they are in the they occupy the commanding heights of entertainment
00:40:42.360
and of television um they're not oppressed they are the oppressors this is not a condition that exists
00:40:49.020
anywhere else in the planet earth save perhaps israel it's the it's testament to the united states and to
00:40:54.600
the promise that washington made george washington in 1790 in his address to the congregation of
00:41:00.020
rhode island that this country countenances no bigotry and it is home to the israelites as it is to
00:41:05.780
all the world's stateless peoples all its persecuted peoples all its oppressed peoples it is a testament to
00:41:11.020
this country where jews occupy the positions that they do in the united states but in an intersexual
00:41:15.720
point of view they're they have uh ill begotten gains on their hands which is illustrative of the
00:41:22.420
uh status that they that they occupy and it's it needs to be addressed they need to be cut down a peg
00:41:29.300
so on the ladder the hierarchical ladder of intersectionality jews are at the very very bottom
00:41:33.740
and it justifies the sorts of prejudices and it justifies the sort of violence it is it is in our
00:41:40.240
institutions as ayan said it is in our universities it is in um our boardrooms it is in politics in the
00:41:47.840
highest offices in washington dc uh and it is a noxious toxic philosophy that that it produces
00:41:54.540
this kind of bloodshed uh on a small on a smaller scale in the united states on a profoundly larger
00:41:59.520
scale in israel and elsewhere in the western world but it won't stop there if we don't stop it
00:42:04.100
i can't get over the fact that when we first launched this show we just had ayan on she was i think
00:42:09.700
episode nine she was one of the first um one of the other stories that we covered very early on
00:42:15.360
was what happened to brett weinstein at evergreen college in washington state where he got he lost
00:42:20.540
his job ultimately because the black students on campus wanted to do like a sick out for a day they
00:42:27.780
had been doing it where the black students didn't show up on a certain day of the year to sort of sort
00:42:32.000
of show people this is what life would be like without us it was voluntary on their part okay whatever
00:42:36.580
but then this one year they said no we're coming and we want everyone who's not black not to come
00:42:41.100
all the white people need to stay home and brett weinstein or then a professor there said i'm not
00:42:45.040
sure that's such i don't think you can sort of try to mandate to the whites that they not come to the
00:42:49.140
college education they're paying for that might be a bridge too far they stormed his office the office
00:42:54.720
of the dean i feel dehumanized this college is racist he's a racist how dare you how can you let
00:43:01.840
this happen and the university sided with them now you know head a little further east to
00:43:08.840
university of wisconsin and you see exactly the opposite you see i think that's where this girl
00:43:14.480
who we opened the show with was crying saying how can you allow this what do you you know look at this
00:43:19.500
these are people who are celebrating what hamas did it was washington okay it wasn't even that far
00:43:24.020
away all right washington same state um the girl's crying saying that they want my people dead
00:43:30.280
they want to kill us how can this be allowed i realize we allow protests in america but
00:43:34.920
you could much more closely see this young woman's point right and get behind her which no administration
00:43:41.360
is doing than you could those evergreen students and it's just been a 180 yeah and it's incumbent on us
00:43:48.420
to accept and allow this because we understand that that is an american value that the answer to the
00:43:56.500
ills of free speech is more free speech they don't see it that way they are not it's a misnomer
00:44:02.720
to call them liberals they are not liberals they're fundamentally illiberal they want to silence you
00:44:08.720
through coercive coercive mechanisms through threats intimidation that is an illiberal impulse
00:44:16.180
uh it is the height now of enlightened sophistication on the left to see the kind of
00:44:21.940
um racial segregation that you described just now as uh sophisticated as somehow it'll open your eyes
00:44:29.520
to the to the world around you um progress it's progress right it is it is antithetical to everything
00:44:35.180
we understand to be progress it is antithetical to every um every notion that undergirds the american
00:44:40.840
civic compact it is an assault on the civic compact it is a war on american ideology it is anti-american
00:44:47.960
we must regard it as such it is not just another flavor another intellectual fad that we're supposed
00:44:54.580
to tolerate and compartmentalize and integrate into the social fabric it is not it is an attack on the
00:45:01.140
fundaments of what hold this country together the college administrators who tolerate this sort of
00:45:07.080
thing have made a deal with the devil because it is it does not countenance them it does not countenance
00:45:12.100
their values it seeks to supplant them and replace them with something much darker and it's about time
00:45:17.700
as ian said that we need to open our eyes to the nature of this threat because it is a threat
00:45:21.760
all i can think is i never want to hear another college student or administration tell me someone
00:45:29.580
feels unsafe and therefore speech needs to be shut down so i never want to hear this again because
00:45:36.320
literally jewish americans jewish french citizens and so on might be unsafe today they actually might be
00:45:44.500
unsafe today you know we're having nyu unleash all of its cops on the city there's fbi warnings uh my
00:45:51.280
security team these guys at q verity who helped keep me safe just in case any lunatic you know you
00:45:56.200
get issues as a public figure they released um something to me today which i'll just i'll read to
00:46:01.240
you uh in part so that people can see it for them or hear it for themselves uh saying while there is
00:46:08.480
heightened security around places of worship there are potentially softer targets such as streets markets
00:46:12.620
coffee shops parking garages other areas where individuals are traveling to and from a place of
00:46:17.080
worship public transportation particularly subways and buses also particularly vulnerable today in
00:46:22.140
major cities they're saying given the uncertainty characterized above it would be wise to carefully
00:46:26.660
assess the need for travel and or activity outside your residence over the next 24 to 48 hours
00:46:31.500
this is not just for me this is for people in these major metropolitan areas in particular those with a
00:46:36.780
high palestinian population and or a high jewish population we've seen jewish kids taking off their
00:46:43.240
um you know their yarmulkes we've seen kids taking off their blazers that are identified with jewish school
00:46:49.180
as i said my friend's kids having to go through armed guards and security dogs like they actually are
00:46:55.240
potentially unsafe today and yet it's being scoffed off like this is what democracy looks like is
00:47:03.660
basically the answer and there are some who are uh more open with their sentiments and their
00:47:10.560
anti-semitism who believe that maybe jews should feel a little bit afraid today i mean if you've
00:47:15.520
supported what they call the occupation or what have you the barricades i don't even know the logic that
00:47:21.420
they use to justify the idea that's the slaughter of 1300 jews for being jews is somehow justified but
00:47:28.080
they do say that you know maybe the their fear should be shot through uh them that they should feel
00:47:33.220
unsafe um it is first of all an abrogation again of america's duty to its jewish citizens to say you
00:47:41.860
can be jews but you should be jews in the shadows you should be in hiding you should be afraid uh and it
00:47:48.140
is exactly what the terrorists are trying to commit here is trying to convince them that they are
00:47:54.760
something else that they don't belong um that is fundamentally what this country was founded to
00:48:01.520
combat in a lot of ways it hasn't always been perfect in that pursuit but it has been the
00:48:07.060
organizing principle and this is a ideological battle to get the united states to abandon its
00:48:13.660
self-conception its fundamental duty to its citizens its minority citizens new york city in particular has
00:48:19.620
been guilty of this which has seen a profound increase over the last five years of anti-semitic
00:48:24.000
incidents and its duty to its citizens have been abrogated and it's trying to make a little bit of good
00:48:29.000
here right this show of force this display of force the city's officials are not saying close down
00:48:33.460
your institutions your synagogues your businesses your schools but jews don't trust them they've lost
00:48:39.460
their trust because they've looked the other way as other constituents needs as other faddish
00:48:45.160
ideologies as other priorities became uh far more important than the safety and integrity of the city's
00:48:50.640
jewish population and then you have events like this and it all comes home to roost it demonstrates
00:48:56.300
that it is all the same conflict what happened over there is not utterly distinct from what happens
00:49:01.620
in morningside heights it is the same phenomenon it is the same conflict
00:49:06.200
and that is why you have so many people uh coming out in the middle of times square
00:49:12.680
in the middle of all these college campuses um in the middle of dearborn michigan
00:49:18.340
at the sydney opera house openly saying gas the jews and these horrific slogans openly they're like
00:49:26.720
hamas they're not embarrassed about it i mean at least the nazis tried to hide what they did
00:49:32.100
these people are doing it in the open posting videos of it and then being celebrated openly
00:49:37.120
noah stays with me stand by there's much much more to get to including more incredible ridiculous
00:49:44.180
back and forth on the murdered children in israel stay with us
00:49:49.360
welcome back to the megan kelly show back with me now noah rothman senior writer at national review
00:49:56.720
and author of the rise of the new puritans noah there's been a disturbing debate online
00:50:02.220
about the photos of the dead babies and about the claim that there are dead babies at all in israel
00:50:09.660
who have been murdered by hamas i mean excuse me this this has gotten so bad that bb netanyahu felt
00:50:16.500
the need to actually tweet out some photos of the dead infants something that israel historically never
00:50:22.880
does they tend to be very respectful of their dead so for him to do it was an extraordinary move
00:50:27.240
we've had the jerusalem post reporter we've had another reporter say directly that they saw with their
00:50:33.200
own eyes the murdered children including some decapitations uh some 40 babies now the reporter
00:50:39.820
who originally reported it after speaking with the idf soldiers is taking flack because they weren't all
00:50:45.460
technically babies some were two some may have been three years old i don't know about you but i
00:50:51.600
referred to my children as babies when they were that old as well grab the baby um it's insane that
00:50:57.280
we've now gone in some corners of the internet and even mainstream discussion there was an la times
00:51:02.160
reporter we talked about yesterday on the show who have become obsessed with this as though it's a
00:51:07.060
lie and therefore you can't believe anything about israel by the way it's not a lie babies were murdered
00:51:11.960
and even tim pool who has been a guest on this show who is extremely popular on the right and has an
00:51:18.500
extremely popular youtube show tweeted out yesterday retweeted this guy named jackson hinkle who's got
00:51:25.380
something like 580 000 followers on twitter and he's also a youtuber he retweeted him um suggesting
00:51:33.160
that these are all ai generated these photos that netanyahu and ben shapiro tweeted out of dead
00:51:38.720
burned mutilated babies that they're ai generated because they're pixelated over the baby's faces
00:51:44.240
where necessary um it's incredible that somebody would be that irresponsible and take that leap
00:51:50.940
um and actually if you look at what tim pool retweeted from this guy jackson hinkle it's as
00:51:57.780
follows holy shit the image that ben shapiro tried to pass off as a burned baby corpse was an ai
00:52:03.800
generated fake image exclamation point they said they had a photo of 40 beheaded babies but the
00:52:08.860
photo showed a single baby it was then revealed that the photo was an ai generated image but it didn't
00:52:13.340
matter because the lie about 40 beheaded babies has already been heard by enough people to justify a big
00:52:17.600
war this guy the same guy who tim was retweeting jackson hinkle had just tweeted out you're a
00:52:22.940
pathetic jew hater if you don't believe the ai generated fake image says ben shapiro we don't
00:52:28.460
have photo evidence of the 40 beheaded babies but we do have photo evidence of israel targeting
00:52:32.660
civilians in their utter leveling of gaza the u.s lied about iraq syria libya kuwait ukraine and so on
00:52:39.960
but you believe they're telling the truth about israel give me a brick this is what we're dealing with
00:52:44.140
this is very close to mainstream tim is he's not entirely mainstream but he's extremely popular
00:52:50.720
in the digital lane and he's retweeting this guy and i'm not gonna lie it's deeply disturbing to me
00:52:56.140
now today he updates it with oh huge thread the baby photo from israel appears to be real
00:53:02.780
it's crazy that this is the degree of warfare we're dealing with i i can't i can't it's illustrative
00:53:12.160
of a broader phenomenon that americans don't want to confront but must i'm familiar with this guy
00:53:18.680
this hinkle gentleman unfortunately because i spend a fair amount of time on the fringes of the internet
00:53:24.040
for the job that i'm in and his professional lane is amplifying and boosting the signal of
00:53:32.780
anti-american regimes anti-american actors uh people and institutions that are dedicated to
00:53:39.680
ending the peace and prosperity that we have enjoyed for so long that we hope to bequeath to
00:53:45.280
our children and what happened in gaza and what happened in israel in southern israel is not all
00:53:52.520
that distinct from what happens on the battlefields of ukraine the tactics that we've seen are very
00:53:58.340
familiar rape as a weapon of war summary execution of civilians ethnic cleansing and mass this is the
00:54:06.040
images that we are seeing of what the post-american world will look like our enemies are not disunited
00:54:13.240
they are not acting at cross purposes moscow accepts high-level meetings with hamas officials
00:54:19.480
because it supports their objective moscow and iran support each other's objectives in their in their regions
00:54:25.640
iran supplies moscow with weapons moscow supplies iran with diplomatic cover the objective is to embroil the
00:54:32.280
united states and conflicts that weaken it that hasten the post-american world china is supporting
00:54:37.580
all these conflicts china provides moscow with weapons components china supplies uh iran with 25
00:54:45.080
percent of its weapons it's major trading partner and it it um effectively a note negotiated a
00:54:50.900
rapprochement this year between saudi arabia and iran why in order to supplant american influence in the
00:54:58.960
region china would be very well served by a conflict that re-elevates that makes central again the
00:55:04.600
palestinian issue to the region's diplomacy it has been muted since the abraham accords if this war were
00:55:10.180
to make it once again central to how the sunni regimes navigate their environments it would suit
00:55:14.820
iran or suit china rather just fine all of these conflicts are connected and they are not observing all
00:55:23.380
these careful distinctions that americans here like to say they observe in order to justify the idea
00:55:28.660
that we can look at one over the other or we can compartmentalize them in some fashion
00:55:33.140
sunni and shiite militias sunni and shiite regimes are not at each other's throats when the enemy is
00:55:38.200
america china and iran have decades of problems going back to the to the 19th century with russia
00:55:45.400
all of that is subordinated to the need to supplant the united states all of these regimes are engaged in
00:55:52.160
one mission one goal which is to hasten the onset of a world that we do not want to see a hobbesian
00:55:59.260
world a deadly dangerous world and one in which the united states retreats behind its borders
00:56:03.760
we have to get sober and serious right now but we don't need to help that what's happening that's
00:56:08.480
fine you expect the russians to do something like this these are not russians these are very popular
00:56:13.460
online influencers doing russia's bidding doing our adversaries bidding doing obviously hamas's bidding
00:56:19.960
yeah there's sort of an edgelord vibe there right where they're just so edgy and they're so provocative
00:56:25.340
and on the fringes and willing to say the things that no other person is willing to say you know i
00:56:29.980
know person's willing to say them because it's crazy because it's absolutely insane it makes you
00:56:33.660
look like a ghoul and a lunatic but it's the sort of thing that it does attract a particular
00:56:38.520
a particular psychology that perceives themselves to be on the outside of polite society
00:56:43.600
and once you perceive yourself to be that alienated that removed from from the understood accepted
00:56:52.080
humanity to which we all are supposed to subscribe it gives you license to do a whole lot of things
00:56:57.920
it's all fun and games when you're talking into a camera for youtube but the person on the other end
00:57:02.960
of that camera maybe takes you seriously maybe doesn't think that this is all just fun and games and
00:57:07.780
we're just trying to be as provocative and fiery and really test the bounds of polite society maybe
00:57:13.420
they do something about it that's the sort of thing that these people do need to consider
00:57:17.500
if you're watching what what has gone on over the past six days or five days and you think ben
00:57:22.780
shapiro is the villain you're sick that's you've got a serious problem you need to do some serious
00:57:28.040
reassessing um i wanted to ask you on the piece of paper that i just crumpled up at the bottom
00:57:32.780
was a tweet from aoc uh my team had to resend me the tweet since i crumpled up my paper this is what
00:57:40.400
she tweeted and i want to ask you about it because i know you just dropped a piece about her on national
00:57:44.080
review she writes the level of misinformation speaking of this photos dispute the level of
00:57:49.240
misinformation in all directions at this moment is incredibly high especially on this platform
00:57:53.560
if you see a claim photo or video that triggers a strong emotional reaction take a moment to pause
00:57:59.880
and check for veracity or confirmation from multiple sources this is what she's she's basically
00:58:04.940
saying the horrific photos you've seen of the dead israelis be careful may not be true
00:58:13.140
she needs to take her own advice you were saying to ayan in the previous segment that there was this
00:58:20.080
hamas official who was saying on camera bragging about the degree to which manipulable
00:58:24.880
western sympathizers are so easy to fool and trick and gull into regurgitating her own narratives
00:58:31.380
taking credit for it they was talking about aoc she was talking precisely about her she's one of
00:58:37.580
these people who's out there saying israelis are putting civilians in harm's way no israelis are not
00:58:42.200
putting civilians in harm's way hamas is putting civilians in harm's way hamas is according to trey
00:58:47.080
yengst over at uh fox news doing all it can to barricade people into their homes and prevent them
00:58:52.780
from transiting into idf identified safety corridors to avoid being caught in the crossfire
00:58:58.880
the hamas is urging its citizens as they always do in these conflicts to surge the border and create
00:59:04.800
a human barricade against israeli invasion so that they will be the first to take fire
00:59:10.120
hamas puts weapons in hospitals and un-run schools and mosques hamas executes attacks from civilian
00:59:17.680
areas in order not to not to dissuade uh israeli retaliation but to maximize the potential for
00:59:24.260
collateral damage when they do and hamas has been tearing up civilian infrastructure destroying
00:59:29.420
greenhouses ripping up uh uh tubes and uh the sort of the water the transit networks in order to turn
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them into rockets to fire on civilian territories and draw responses this is what hamas does in order to
00:59:41.840
justify its own existence its compact says that it must be dedicated to the destruction of the jewish state and
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the murder of jews wherever they can be found and in order to maintain this fervor it cannot have
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commerce it cannot have economic growth it cannot have development in its in its territory because
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that would dissuade the public from their thirst for war they need a war-bound public eternally and
01:00:03.080
always in order to justify the regime that is why it needs to be liquidated that is why it cannot be
01:00:08.520
allowed to exist it executed an attack on civilization of which we are a part we were targets of that
01:00:14.560
attack whether american blood was shed or not and it was 25 americans were murdered or more and many
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americans are being held hostage with the threat that they will be executed on camera if this terrorist
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group's demands are unmet and they will go unmet this is our war too and you have to decide what side
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you're on that's right you've got people like i'm sorry to cite this cretin but you've got people like this
01:00:40.060
andrew tate who i mean what long checkered history he was like he's like a fighter who thinks he
01:00:47.260
understands military warfare and the laws of it because he's spent some time in the ring tweeting
01:00:52.220
out you have to negotiate you got to talk there's no harm in talking and i'll give you this response
01:00:56.740
not to him but just on this issue from our former president george w bush who had some thoughts on
01:01:01.560
whether we could just talk it out with these mass murderers it's sat nine
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in a democracy the people's voices matter and there's going to be a weariness you watch the
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world's going to be okay let's negotiate you know israel's got to negotiate they're not going to
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negotiate these people have explained played their cards they want to kill as many israelis as they can
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and negotiating with killers is not an option for the elected government of israel and so we're just
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going to have to remain steadfast but it's not going to take long for people that's gone on too
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long surely there's a way to settle this through negotiations both sides are guilty my view is one
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side is guilty and it's not israel but already from some corners on the right uh it's another forever
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war it's another forever i mean we're literally not even a week into it it's a forever war noah
01:01:56.020
the president's right um those who are calling for israel to stand down to negotiate to not engage
01:02:06.160
in its own self-defense are calling for victory for hamas they're saying that hamas has executed
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a successful terror attack it should get everything it wants and that will be get more bloodshed more
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violence not sure they they know that if they do know that the people who are advocating for that sort
01:02:23.360
of uh acquiescence and engagement um they don't seem to care uh it's very disheartening to hear
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that pusillanimous cowardice from some quarters but i don't think it is in good faith for most of
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these individuals uh i don't think that they have israel's best interests in heart i don't think
01:02:43.880
they cherish and covet the american geopolitical order uh that has given us the kind of peace and
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prosperity that no other human beings in the history of humanity have known to the degree that
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we know it for so long i don't think they're grateful for the world that they were bequeathed
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by their grandparents and parents who sacrificed everything to to give it to them i don't think
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they care i think they're selfish i think they're um narcissistic self-obsessed and in some extreme
01:03:11.060
cases sociopathic i don't think this is an ideology that we can negotiate with i don't think those who
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subscribe to it and those who sympathize with it are uh good faith actors i think they need to be
01:03:21.720
defeated defeated in the realm of ideas and defeated on the battlefield where they are militant
01:03:26.660
the sitting president gave an interview to 60 minutes which i assume will air on sunday
01:03:33.540
and um commented on the american hostages we don't yet have a number on i think the latest number of
01:03:39.780
americans killed was 22 or 25 forgive me um the number of hostages is 27 now has not yet been released
01:03:48.120
but there are some i'll get to one of the moms of one of them who's speaking out but the president
01:03:53.220
sat down with 60 and uh had this message i think they have to know that the president of the united
01:03:59.780
states of america cares deeply about what's happening deeply we have to communicate to the world this is
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critical this is not even human behavior it's it's pure barbarism and we're going to do everything
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on our power to get them home if we can find them that's his message and meantime noah just breaking
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israeli troops including infantry and armored forces have carried out local raids now in the gaza strip
01:04:25.060
said the israeli defense forces on friday they are searching for the hostages uh the israeli hostages
01:04:31.400
the american hostages whatever other hostages are there and i'll just leave you with this
01:04:36.260
there was a new york times piece by the mother of one american hostage hirsch goldberg poland
01:04:44.380
uh u.s citizen born in california was at the music festival and this is the audience may be familiar
01:04:51.400
with his story he sent his parents two short messages on saturday morning as the attack began the
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first one said i love you the second one only i'm sorry and they haven't heard from him since this is
01:05:02.680
one of our guys this is an american citizen um she wrote a longer piece my god it's awful noah
01:05:09.540
she writes hirsch our oldest child and only son he was camping with his best friend at an outdoor
01:05:16.380
music festival near israel's border with gaza when hamas terrace began firing we later found out hirsch
01:05:21.700
and his friends managed to escape by car but were forced to stop and take cover in a roadside bomb
01:05:26.120
shelter terrorists then attacked the shelter blowing off hirsch's arm from the elbow down by
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machine gun fire or a grenade or both according to witnesses he was then ordered into a pickup truck
01:05:37.960
i want things to go back to how they were before saturday morning before i saw hirsch's text messages
01:05:44.220
that alerted me he was in grave danger i love you and i'm sorry but here we are stuck in the awful
01:05:51.040
present if he is still alive how much longer can he survive his wounds are grievous i hope somewhere
01:05:58.580
someone somewhere is being kind to him caring for him attending to him every single person in gaza has
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a mother or had a mother at some point and i would say this then as a mother to other mothers if you see
01:06:14.300
hirsch please help him i think about it a lot i really think i would help your son if he was in
01:06:21.420
front of me injured near me it's too awful to imagine and i'm sure we've got our own navy seals
01:06:29.140
right next to these idf guys going in there trying to get our guys back but there is the matter of
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american lives involved in this too and the matter of how on earth do they save these 150 hostages
01:06:41.180
in light of how hamas is using them i i don't even know how to respond to that it is
01:06:48.480
absolutely gut-wrenching um i don't know either megan i don't suspect there are a lot of very good
01:06:57.800
options i think hamas has demonstrated uh insofar as it's possible to convince people who are willing
01:07:04.760
to be convinced that they want to kill these people and they want to make maximize the amount
01:07:10.960
of pain that we experience and it's not about demands it is about demonstrating the absolute
01:07:16.280
inhumanity of this organization as a means of deterring us as a means of scaring us it's pretty
01:07:22.160
effective um in 2014 the united states had gotten out of iraq two three years prior and they really
01:07:30.980
supported that they wanted to wash their hands of the middle east and then the islamic state poured
01:07:35.880
across iraq's borders and captured two americans james foley wright and stephen sotloff and beheaded
01:07:41.740
them on camera and overnight american opinion turned on a dime and said we need to go back in
01:07:49.380
the impetus for going back in was the siege of the yezidi population and that was the justification
01:07:56.500
that barack obama used to justify the reinvasion of iraq at the iraqi government's request but it
01:08:02.780
was going to happen whether that happened or not the american people wanted revenge
01:08:06.720
and it was justified and righteous and i wonder how americans will react 10 years later a new world
01:08:14.720
a different world but nevertheless one that still includes the united states that is proud of its
01:08:20.600
country that rejects the notion that it has to sit back and take it from these animals and if that
01:08:27.400
happens what will we do and how will we react and will we be contained i don't think we can be nor
01:08:35.600
should we be and you can expect all the usual suspects will come out and say well we have to
01:08:39.740
observe restraint and maybe they have a point look at our history we're not perfect and those people
01:08:47.280
will think that they have the moral high ground and act like it but it is barbarism it is a soft
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spoken barbarity and it needs to be treated with the contempt that it is that it deserves i pray for
01:09:01.520
these captives i hope we can find them i wish i had more hope for their fates than i do but we also
01:09:07.540
need to be thinking about the contingencies of what happens if and when i think they do what they want
01:09:12.040
to do and how far we plan to go to avenge them it's too awful to imagine i mean every parent out there
01:09:21.700
is thinking about that line i hope someone somewhere is being kind to him caring for him attending to him
01:09:28.880
there are real human victims involved in this behavior they should not be forgotten no all the
01:09:35.940
best to you you and your family thanks for coming on thank you megan we'll be right back
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welcome back to the megan kelly show now we turn to an important issue on the transgender madness
01:09:48.780
that is gripping our nation with an expert on the topic jennifer billick is an artist activist and
01:09:54.540
investigative reporter who is dedicated to following the money behind this whole movement my god she's
01:09:59.960
done amazing work her detailed reporting reveals that major financial players in america are influencing
01:10:06.600
almost every aspect of life to normalize this radical agenda not just here in america actually
01:10:13.860
but across the globe the globe her blog is called the 11th hour jennifer thank you so much for being
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here my apologies it's shorter than i would have liked it but as you know this the news out of the
01:10:24.760
middle east is just so devastating today but i i'm going to have you on again and we have a longer
01:10:29.460
conversation i've been dying to talk to you thank you so much i'm really really grateful to be here
01:10:35.700
i mean you you are a hero to me and to many others for actually doing the digging on this topic
01:10:42.000
that needed to be done it's not just i mean it's you you understand this movement what's behind it
01:10:47.300
better than anybody you also understand why it's become so financially lucrative and how it's being
01:10:51.060
funded so we're going to go there after we start a little bit on your background so how did you how did
01:10:56.800
you come to the issue of this transgender craze and you know what what made you interested in that
01:11:02.300
finances behind it um well i was in activist circles since occupy wall street uh life campaign
01:11:12.760
for women's rights and the uh the health of the environment uh since i'm in my 20s um but around the
01:11:20.060
time of occupy wall street uh there was a very very robust uh igniting of activism you know political
01:11:28.480
activism and that lasted for quite a while um but within this community uh there was this sort of
01:11:37.440
second mccarthyism developing where you couldn't talk about uh this particular issue and this particular
01:11:44.960
issue what most people call transgenderism i call the synthetic sex industry because i have
01:11:51.040
um researched the money behind this um and it is um a growth industry a growth business in um disembodiment
01:12:00.980
from sex reality and these new identities that are forming under the lgbt banner uh once you know a real
01:12:12.200
civil rights movement is now uh corporatized and it's been infiltrated it was infiltrated by the
01:12:19.840
medical industrial complex during the aids crisis um and they never left uh well the lgbt at this point
01:12:28.100
is um worth 3.17 billion dollars as a marketing constituency so that's an awful lot of uh marketing
01:12:36.060
and capital power um you know to cross market with other corporations so it's like one of the ways
01:12:42.180
that they get people on board with this ideology is to um you know basically you support our
01:12:48.960
community and our constituency our marketing base will support your business um but yeah basically
01:12:58.660
this is really has nothing to do with identity um corporations international finance houses
01:13:05.320
international law firms um silicon valley the medical industrial complex don't really care
01:13:12.980
about the identity issues of a miniscule part of the population um it's absolutely a ridiculous
01:13:20.080
uh concept to think so they care about money they care about money and they care about power this
01:13:27.380
makes me think of remember the scene in devil wears prada where um the anna wintour character played by
01:13:32.960
meryl streep looks at uh the young sort of ingenue uh played by it was uh i can't remember and hathaway
01:13:40.520
and she's like she's like do you really think you chose that sweater just out of your own tastes
01:13:45.200
and desires you chose that sweater and that's really surreal like green whatever it was because this team
01:13:51.060
of people people in here years ago decided you were going to like that color one year it was better
01:13:55.560
than the way i just said it but you're you're kind of saying it's the same thing absolutely i mean and
01:14:02.280
you know i mean if you just look at the figures i mean market research uh is an analysis uh you know
01:14:08.800
they do market analysis firm and they project the um synthetic sex surgeries will be in the billions by
01:14:17.640
2026 now there's another marketing research analyst firm that has projected the figure at 30.5 billion by
01:14:27.900
2028 they're both accredited by the better business bureau so who has the right statistics i don't know
01:14:35.980
but what we do know is that these uh the increase and the profiting off of these surgeries are being
01:14:42.380
driven by um government policies uh positive policies um and promotion that these sex surgeries
01:14:53.220
are available um yeah and people knowing about them and also the uh the clinics coming up to serve this
01:15:01.000
uh people that want to disown their sex for whatever reasons and there's many reasons many people would
01:15:06.320
choose that uh they might have had a trauma in their lives um you know leading to dysphoria about their
01:15:13.580
their sex reality um you know they might be homosexual and not want to deal with the homophobia in society
01:15:22.300
um you know uh there are adults men who have a fetish of autogynophilia its colloquial name is
01:15:30.760
transsexualism um and this really is the root of this issue um it sort of had a rebranding to
01:15:39.520
transgenderism because transsexual surgeries would be a very difficult sell to a young population
01:15:46.460
and this is really being targeted to um the youth because what they're doing under this banner of
01:15:55.800
gender identity um i think we really should throw out the word gender altogether and just use sex
01:16:02.120
uh because gender is really confusing can you expand on that because this confuses me too i mean this
01:16:07.640
confuses me because even as somebody who's been covering this more and more i've heard others
01:16:12.160
well some people say gender is just this argument well because let me just set it up because years ago i
01:16:17.420
had deborah so on the podcast who i love and she was she's uh got a phd in sexual fetishes and so on
01:16:23.760
and she was saying you know gender is the way you sort of express your your gender identity is the way
01:16:29.200
you express what you feel is your gender which may or may not be um the same as your sexual identity as
01:16:37.440
as you know your your sex your biological sex and i can see what i can see that point that some people
01:16:43.760
may feel more flamboyant and they may choose clothes like for a male that are just a little bit more
01:16:51.520
girly you know or vice versa why why do we say that there is no sort of gender identity why why is it
01:16:59.220
all about biological sex in your view um because if you look about what's happening in a culture i mean
01:17:05.900
if you listen to what everybody's saying you know gender identity there's a whole lot of stuff going on
01:17:11.200
underneath that umbrella right gender identity umbrella or transgender umbrella you have men with the
01:17:16.740
the uh the uh fetish of autogynephilia you have people with disorders of sexual development
01:17:23.220
intersex conditions you have kids that are uh rebelling against sexual stereotypes um you have
01:17:30.260
other young people embracing those sexual stereotypes and wanting the opposite sexual stereotypes um you have
01:17:37.300
feminine men uh appropriating the uh the word for feminine men in other cultures
01:17:43.560
uh and all of these things are supposed to be meaning transgenderism or gender identity so what
01:17:49.640
does any of that mean you know i mean words are supposed to communicate uh clarity to bring clarity
01:17:55.600
and communication but this word doesn't really do that um it obscures what's really happening which is
01:18:01.060
the deconstruction of sex uh linguistically socially medically uh legally um and just about every other way
01:18:11.040
um young people are actually having their healthy sex um medically assaulted for this ideology
01:18:19.360
um and you know we as a species are far more profitable as um as parts our sex reality we are are we are holy
01:18:30.880
sex we are whole beings our sex isn't separate from our our whole beingness um but to to create a division
01:18:38.320
like that the demarcation line to disappear that demarcation line between men and women deconstructs
01:18:44.640
our sexual dimorphism as a species male and female just so now we're being you're saying this term gender
01:18:50.920
identity is being used to take away the realities of biological what's happening exactly that's uh this is
01:18:59.760
why yeah yeah well we're you know i mean we're being uh we're being divided into penises vaginas breasts
01:19:07.440
uh ovaries uh ovaries wombs um gametes you know we're all being you know divided into parts and what
01:19:17.280
this is really is a is a transhumanist paradigm um whereas transhumanism and you know silicon valley
01:19:24.960
has been selling us transhumanism uh since the early 2000s and you know ai is coming uh hard and heavy at us
01:19:34.320
uh today uh today and um transhumanism projects that we will eventually become like sort of another
01:19:41.440
species all together um and this whole apparatus gender identity apparatus is really driving that
01:19:50.000
narrative um of sort of lifting yourself out of your your humanity and creating uh another species
01:19:58.240
and people they they uh we're calling people transgender but we're also setting up a sort of um
01:20:06.480
it's a corporate construct it's not real nobody transitions their sex so far no matter how much
01:20:12.240
surgery they have no matter how many drugs they take um and we're we're entering a phase where uh
01:20:20.400
uh you know genetic engineering and reproductive technologies are are poised really to um
01:20:29.200
you soup you serve the integrity of our of our wholeness um this is this is why i i don't use that
01:20:36.880
term i try to avoid the term transgender altogether i'll say it's a man posing as a woman it's a woman
01:20:42.320
posing as a man that's that's more clear and actually i think captures what's actually having somebody
01:20:47.040
pretending to be a member of the opposite sex that's really what's going on but wait let me
01:20:51.440
shift this really originated with money oh of course it was all male it wasn't a woman's thing at all
01:20:57.840
until you point out these other actors the medical industrial complex got involved and started
01:21:02.560
convincing 16 year old girls that they somehow weren't girls but i didn't realize until reading your
01:21:08.960
stuff that the there's a point like there are actually really well-funded trans people whose last
01:21:15.680
names you're going to know who have been behind this who are actively pushing it and not surprisingly
01:21:21.760
honestly it's just like rachel levine within the hhs department i really think that rachel levine is a
01:21:28.160
man posing as a woman and he wants your kid to do what he did he wants to feel validated by you and your
01:21:34.480
kid he doesn't care about the health consequences to your child and that's the same of this so-called
01:21:39.920
jennifer pritzker who is really not a jennifer take me to the pritzkers and their role in all of this
01:21:49.520
oh the pritzkers wow i mean i could just talk days upon days upon the pritzkers um uh the pritzkers are um
01:21:57.920
a very large family in america that made their uh bank on the hyatt hotel industry but have since um
01:22:05.600
gotten invested in the medical industrial complex and there's very many of them and they're worth like
01:22:10.320
29 billion and they've had a huge huge influence on driving this ideology through the culture
01:22:18.720
an ideology of disowning uh your sex reality um as progressive and cool and edgy for the youth
01:22:26.320
um they fund uh multiple um organizations throughout the culture the the military they fund
01:22:36.240
massive millions and millions and millions of dollars to uh cash strapped universities um in america
01:22:43.120
in canada in israel uh jennifer pritzker is a man uh who you already noted that in his 60s he uh decided
01:22:51.680
you know he was he was a woman suddenly poof um and he uh you know he made an announcement to his uh
01:23:00.080
colleagues that he was going to be a woman now he's going to present himself as a woman and he felt
01:23:04.960
like a woman as if a man could know what a woman feels like uh not convincingly
01:23:12.320
and he has this organization called the 20 foundation which is a philanthropic organization and he funds
01:23:18.320
um all the big kahunas of the uh the gender who are driving the gender industry like w path
01:23:25.520
um and the w path also you know here's another organization that are working to promote this
01:23:32.480
idea that people can be born in wrong bodies and the uh managing director over there uh sue o sullivan
01:23:40.160
with her sister co-founded veritas organization which is a medical um uh management company they do
01:23:47.360
uh forums and everything for you know everything medical including uh pharmaceutical industry
01:23:53.440
uh corporations that uh promote these and make these puberty blockers for for children
01:24:00.480
um and uh the uh business arm of 20 foundation um 20 enterprises partners with uh their as an asset
01:24:11.520
management company and they uh uh manage the assets of medical tech uh companies um yeah so and then
01:24:23.040
you have john striker who founded arkus foundation which is probably the most significant um lgbt organization
01:24:31.120
in the world here in america okay keep going arkus yes and um he's aired to a 19.3 billion
01:24:41.040
dollar medical corporation and he comes out of finance comes out of um asset management also
01:24:50.640
and um he funds his lgbt ngo through his medical corporation now it's medical supplies but they
01:24:58.720
also just got into the uh facial feminization surgery market oh lord um when i started writing
01:25:05.280
about them in 2018 they were like 13.5 billion was their you know uh annual revenue that's what they
01:25:11.760
were worth right we're talking billions of dollars here i mean the medical industrial compact complex
01:25:16.720
needs to be fed it's a beast it's like 13 trillion dollars huge the global medical industry it's like
01:25:22.480
one of the largest industries ever and it needs to be fed and it's feeding on these transgender surgeries
01:25:31.760
you know and uh medical manipulations um and people are getting caught up in this because of the
01:25:38.080
propaganda that's coming from the very same people that are uh going to be profiting from it
01:25:44.560
um and these this is moving into uh transhumanist surgeries uh like you could just look at elon musk
01:25:52.240
just came out with the neural link and it was just approved for implanting in humans
01:25:57.360
um and um the technological reproduction market is so advanced now um you know the things that
01:26:07.680
they're able to do with uh with genes and and dna manipulation and uh creating uh embryos from from
01:26:17.200
skin cells that you can grow in a dish um you know and the whole surrogacy market plays into this
01:26:24.640
like out of body wombs actual and out of body wombs and in body wombs they they're researching how
01:26:30.560
to implant wombs into men not only how to implant them into men in order for a male to give birth and
01:26:40.000
have that experience but to also leave this womb in the man so that he can menstruate and have that
01:26:48.960
experience as well i mean it's absolutely bonkers you know the research that they're doing but people
01:26:55.360
don't really connect this to the to the uh you know to what's going on here the gender industry
01:27:01.840
because they think it's a human rights movement because this is what's been promoted to them
01:27:06.080
i mean the the propaganda for this has been relentless since like 2014 when laverne cox showed
01:27:12.720
up on the cover of uh mark benioff's time magazine mark benioff is you know founder of salesforce computing
01:27:20.320
cloud uh cloud computing excuse me and um he's had myriad people on there who attempt to disown their
01:27:27.520
sex and promote that as a positive um you know lifestyle for humanity um he also has a uh invest in
01:27:38.640
gender clinics and also in medical reproduction uh technological you know reproduction as does jeff
01:27:47.920
bezos who has uh has invested 166 million dollars in a clinic in brooklyn that does these surgeries
01:27:56.960
on people's healthy reproductive organs and he also has a uh a um fertility platform on amazon
01:28:07.040
um his ex-wife um what's her name now mckenzie well let's just call her his ex-wife mckenzie
01:28:17.600
phillips right yeah is it mckenzie phillips anyway let's just call it bezos i don't know is mckenzie
01:28:24.560
phillips the girl from that tv show we used to watch mckenzie scott yeah mckenzie scott there you go
01:28:31.920
thank you i knew you'd find it um you know she's giving millions and millions and millions of dollars
01:28:38.400
to the lgbt which is really not you know it's not the lgb of yore at all we have no grass really just
01:28:46.960
the t activists it's really now just really just the t and the q and the amount of promotion of this
01:28:54.560
and the fact that you can't critique it i mean goes a long way to tell you that you know this is
01:29:01.360
uh you know you're messing with profits that's why they don't want you to talk about this so let me
01:29:06.320
add to this so just today it's not just uh the amount of profit right but in the way they want
01:29:10.960
you to talk about it but just today there was news that the biden administration is now mandating
01:29:16.400
trying to mandate that it that all employers refer to their trans employees by their preferred
01:29:24.240
pronouns that it will yeah by definition constitute workplace harassment if you don't go along if
01:29:31.280
employees who are co-employees with a trans person don't say though now this is going mark my word this
01:29:38.960
is going to be struck down this is unconstitutional the government cannot mandate speech this isn't canada
01:29:45.280
sorry joe biden it's still the united states of america i can't wait until alliance defending
01:29:50.960
freedom gets its hand on its hands on this it's going away it's going away but he's trying and making
01:29:57.920
us say the pronouns making us say the names making us speak the way they want us to speak and not say
01:30:04.320
the things they don't want us to say is all part of it well biden is just really carrying out the um
01:30:10.960
the agenda of uh obama who was really bought and paid for by the pritzker family i mean penny pritzker
01:30:17.760
who's the cousin of jennifer pritzker um really put him in the white house he was really you know
01:30:23.840
it was he was nobody really until you know she found him and dusted him off and really introduced
01:30:30.080
him to all the wealthy funders that got him into the white house and then he became our trans president
01:30:35.440
you know putting through all these policies and and uh you know bills to support synthetic sex
01:30:42.480
identities what is jennifer pritzker's relation to jb pritzker the governor of illinois oh that's his um
01:30:50.880
that's his cousin jb is his cousin and jb just passed a um a bill in uh chicago illinois uh i think
01:31:02.160
it was last year it was past 2022 i think um for grade schools and well all schools there um to
01:31:13.200
to bring in this health education that um teaches transgenderism or gender ideology or synthetic sex
01:31:22.720
identities as as a choice for you and your life for children um and it was brought in it was sort of a
01:31:31.200
test case it's like if you if parents go along with this you have to have all of the health
01:31:36.080
education that we're promoting and if you don't want if you don't want it then you can't have any
01:31:42.160
health education at all now they decided they didn't want it which was you know thank god you
01:31:48.560
know but this is being pushed at every single angle of society um and there almost seems like there's
01:31:56.240
no way out because all the corporations are on board you know the esg the environmental social
01:32:01.600
governing um yep uh issue you know those uh those are and diversity equity inclusion um those are
01:32:11.200
policies pushed down from the top of society like blackrock who also have an investment in the in the
01:32:17.280
gender industry and the synthetic sex industry like why you know how many trillions of dollars in assets
01:32:23.840
and they care about the the identity issues of a minuscule part of the population i don't think so
01:32:30.880
they want to make money but these you know children yes this is being targeted to the youth because
01:32:38.240
they want the youth to dissociate from biology from their biological reality this is the transhumanist paradigm
01:32:46.160
you know uh getting them to think of themselves not as whole integral human beings but as parts for
01:32:55.040
the market that you can sort of like they're lego people you know we're we're indoctrinating children
01:33:02.080
to think that they're lego people that you because and this is because reproduction is poised to be usurped
01:33:10.240
by the technology industry so then you don't really need male and female and you don't need um
01:33:17.520
sexuality for bonding for intimacy it's really just a sort of a kink fest you know what i mean
01:33:23.920
yeah we're all these weird automatons just walking around genderless organless nothing special about us
01:33:31.680
whatsoever we we can grow babies in the womb we can have our belly buttons chopped out we can have our
01:33:40.240
genitals chopped out we can just look like these cyborgs and i guess this is what's going to make
01:33:46.800
us happy and better this is i mean like no one cares is really the thing the pritzkers don't give
01:33:52.080
a damn about happiness and black rock doesn't care about happiness they just care about money and power
01:33:58.960
this is power this is power they think they're building god with technology
01:34:06.080
at a time when you know um religion is really absent from a lot of people's lives
01:34:13.520
and becoming more absent this is sort of filling a vacuum for people this this this technology um and
01:34:20.240
this belief in in all-powerful technology that will take us out of our our actual humanity and um
01:34:29.360
you know maybe make gods out of all of us well you know what it is jennifer i mean it's like i've
01:34:34.320
started to realize i am a pretty happy person i'm not like you know an idiot running around skipping
01:34:43.040
and throwing daisies at people but i am in news so i'm somewhat cynical but um i think these people
01:34:50.080
like there are a lot of deeply unhappy people out there and they would love to escape to another body
01:34:55.360
they would love to escape to another self and then to see everyone around them escape to another
01:35:00.080
self so that everybody's level of happiness goes down there there actually are people who think like
01:35:04.160
that see that as a quote solution to their problem and we're allowing ourselves to be influenced by these
01:35:10.720
people let me back up with you one one step because you wrote something that i thought was really
01:35:15.440
interesting you've said that the population the true population of transgender individuals
01:35:21.280
is zero so i want to talk to you about this because i i was always told by people i trusted and i was
01:35:28.480
read that there there is a very very very small subset of the population that has genuine gender dysphoria
01:35:37.120
basically from birth you know they know by the time they're three years old i don't feel like i'm in
01:35:42.960
the right body i really feel like i'm a member of the opposite sex and those people are not people who
01:35:48.320
at age 16 suddenly say yeah i'm trans when really they're just socially awkward there are people who
01:35:53.760
their earliest memories are a feeling i'm in the wrong body and we've accepted those people as genuinely
01:36:00.720
gender dysphoric they say they're transgender and then they go and they have all the operations so
01:36:05.920
what explain that claim that there there really are no that the transgender population is zero
01:36:14.720
well you know i don't doubt that some people you know from a young age have
01:36:23.600
complicated or even negative feelings about their sex body um there's a condition called identity body
01:36:32.960
identity integrity disorder where people feel like one of their limbs does not belong to them it's
01:36:39.280
usually a lower extremity um like a leg or a foot um and they feel so insistent on this that they've
01:36:48.400
actually taken it upon themselves to try and cut it off um so far we haven't made a habit of cutting off
01:36:55.280
limbs of these people right um and we haven't um celebrated this as an identity we don't have any
01:37:05.920
modeling agencies for them we don't have any makeup lines for them we don't put them on the cover of
01:37:10.720
magazines or put them in tv shows um as positive lifestyle representation um because it's considered a
01:37:19.680
disorder disorder but disordered thinking now and in terms of children that have this uh you know this
01:37:28.080
sense that you know uh they don't like their bodies um this is a very very minuscule part of the population
01:37:38.800
um and it's it's being used as is intersex conditions um and other issues uh to further along this
01:37:48.480
narrative that sex is a spectrum you know and um you know it's a horrible thing that children are
01:37:58.640
being used in this way but um they have to they have to have the transgender child in order to substantiate
01:38:10.400
the uh transsexual male and his fixation on owning womanhood because you can't sell that to the public
01:38:20.560
as a positive um so you have to have the transgender child and the transgender child is a legal construct
01:38:29.040
as is the transgender adult it's a legal construct um in 2000
01:38:35.680
i don't even remember the year but you know in the span of a few years in mid 2000s
01:38:45.920
you had uh george soros open society foundation made a legal guide for uh creating basically manifesting
01:38:55.760
the transgender child and arcus foundation also funded um another um guide for sort of bringing legal
01:39:04.720
structure to this uh to children um and who was who was the other one uh denton's law firm um
01:39:15.760
helped create and which is like one of the largest law firms in the world uh international law firms in
01:39:21.600
the world um did pro bono work to create legal structure for transgender children
01:39:26.800
um if if the medical industrial complex you know 50 years ago had heard about children you know wanting
01:39:35.680
to uh disown their sex i'm sure that they would have been manipulating them a whole lot sooner
01:39:41.680
uh this is this is a legal construct it's not real so transgenderism is just not real it doesn't mean
01:39:49.840
anything it's an umbrella term that brings in all of these different issues and it's incoherent which is why
01:39:55.920
they don't want anybody to talk about it because if you start talking about it it just breaks apart
01:40:01.120
and so their response to well let's discuss this is no debate no debate our reality is not up for debate
01:40:07.280
you know but in fact your reality is not reality at all reality is the natural world that's that's
01:40:13.280
about as real as you can get you know what goes up expand on what you said about uh this is part of
01:40:19.120
like this is rooted in men's desire to own womanhood women well transvestic fetishism i mean it started
01:40:25.920
out as um men that wanted to dress as women for a sexual compulsion um it wasn't very popular and it
01:40:34.880
wasn't accepted in society certainly they had to do this in private and so they did and they made groups
01:40:41.920
groups and eventually one of these groups um started uh in the uk and this man named martin rothblatt
01:40:53.200
joined he's an american entrepreneur lawyer who's owned a um a pharmaceutical corporation he's written
01:41:02.400
about the on-ramp of transgenderism to transhumanism he's written about the future of technological uh
01:41:09.760
usurpation of um uh human reproduction you know taking it to the tech sector he's made a robot of
01:41:18.800
his wife and thinks he's instilling her consciousness in in the robot um and he got together with these
01:41:26.240
other transvestic and transvestite uh transvestic and transsexual lawyers in the uk um and created
01:41:35.280
legal structure to make the transgender person the transsexual person to give it legal weight
01:41:42.720
um now these are just people that want to disown their sex you know for whatever reasons they want
01:41:49.280
i mean this group wanted to disown it for because they have this compulsion and this compulsion fetishes
01:41:56.080
usually escalate they don't usually stay in one spot you know i have this fetish and this is the
01:42:00.960
fetish that's how it usually escalates and this industry is also this transsexual industry um has
01:42:07.840
also been driven by the porn industry because porn objectifies women sexually and the industry of porn
01:42:16.640
brought you know women's sexual objectification into the home and this happened at a time when the first
01:42:25.360
man had the first transsexual surgery in the united states i don't know if he had the surgery here but
01:42:31.760
he was american and he did i think he had it somewhere else he came back um christine jordanson and he was
01:42:37.680
celebrated you know in the culture for this and so these uh two incidents happened within a year of each
01:42:44.160
other the uh you know this surgery the first surgery in america to be like popularized and then
01:42:51.200
this the industry of the porn industry you know magazines being delivered right to your home so
01:42:56.400
you don't have to go to some seedy little you know back room in a store uh you know to watch porn
01:43:03.360
to see porn right you could just invite it into your home now this becomes uh a billion billion dollar
01:43:10.800
industry and the porn needs to escalate in order for men to continue to be aroused by it so the old porn
01:43:20.080
you know 1970s porn gets pushed down into the culture and you know like megan the stallion you
01:43:27.760
know you can watch her ride around and do sexual antics and stuff on it on a music stage so that's
01:43:34.080
like you know that's the old point it's pushed down to the culture and now you know the actual porn is
01:43:41.280
just becomes more and more degrading and debasing and humiliating for women and young boys can now watch
01:43:47.680
this on the flip of a phone just type in porn and what comes up is horribly you know degrading images
01:43:54.480
of women being penetrated into multiple uh orifices and being called vile vile names um yeah and so
01:44:03.200
this this uh trajectory of both of these things and the culture is just escalating and escalating
01:44:10.160
and so men seeking to own womanhood this fetish is also escalating and with the advancement of
01:44:16.320
medical technologies to make more and more realistic uh synthetic simulacrums of women um
01:44:26.320
they haven't been able to perfect you know the the simulation of male characteristics um oh my god
01:44:34.240
just take a look at pritzker guy that was good lord you're perfecting it keep working on it jennifer
01:44:42.080
so um yeah so this this is really a technological medical advancement of um of a fetish into an
01:44:55.200
industry of body dissociation and when you take it to its zenith to transhumanism it's actually owning
01:45:04.000
women's reproductive capacities through technology through medical technology
01:45:08.480
oh my god so until women are erased and this is and this is why the boundary between males and
01:45:15.440
and you know women are being assimilated into males you know in the culture now like by the erase
01:45:21.520
racing of their of their uh safe spaces you know they don't want any um
01:45:30.560
um you know demarcation line between males and females they you know the whole sports issue
01:45:40.480
is just i mean it's complete and total insanity on its face but um
01:45:49.760
it it it um it it's it's almost like planting a flag after you've colonized the territory
01:45:56.320
like they're colonizing your biology you know yeah your rights your rights but you know they're
01:46:02.320
colonizing your biology this is what's happening here you know your rights are just like planting the
01:46:08.160
flag you know that's like that comes later so who's i mean we we talked about the pritzkers
01:46:15.680
we talked about john striker who are the other big pushers of this like the big financiers
01:46:23.760
oh tim gill is another one tim gill is another one he has he's very very quiet tim gill um on this front
01:46:31.520
um he's uh he has the second most largest probably most powerful uh lgbt organization in um in the world
01:46:41.280
world um and uh it's called the guild foundation and he uh he works hand in hand with john striker
01:46:49.360
to do the same thing he's a philanthropist he's a billionaire he's poured billions of you know his
01:46:54.480
own money into this issue um first it was gay marriage they turned the the whole state of the
01:47:00.560
and i say they because striker's sister john striker's sister pat striker worked with um
01:47:07.040
um tim gill in colorado to turn the state from red to blue now i actually did um another interview
01:47:18.320
and i i made an error in that i said that they turned into a red state but it's a blue state now
01:47:23.200
it's democratic it's blue now and they did this with piles and piles of money and threat
01:47:30.800
um and so they are also and he comes out of quark press so he comes out of technology
01:47:35.760
you know so this is like this is you know silicon valley in bed with the medical industrial complex
01:47:44.480
and it's fused and fueled by you know the finance you know big finance black rock and uh ernst and
01:47:51.840
young and other you know uh well how asset management corporations how do we have total surrender by
01:47:59.840
the american psychological association the american psychiatric association the american
01:48:05.600
academy of pediatricians how did this how did all these people get them to just completely bend the knee
01:48:14.320
well threat basically financial threat if you do not go along with this ideology you're going to be
01:48:23.600
ostracized you're going to be socially ostracized uh you might you might lose your job
01:48:28.640
and people with families you know don't want to rock the boat um and further um it's just been a
01:48:41.120
constant indoctrination we are so tied to our technology already i mean the idea of transhumanism is not
01:48:49.920
really that far from what we're living now we've been so dissociated from our natural environment and
01:48:56.480
to spend so much time on technologies um with technologies we probably touch machines more
01:49:02.560
than we touch the people in our lives um and we're always on here and where this this information has
01:49:08.960
been coming over the same tech that's driving it you know that's creating it you know that it's creating
01:49:14.800
the surgeries they're there it's the same tech where this information is being indoctrinated into the
01:49:20.240
public it's more like an indoctrination um you know um process it's more like indoctrination than it is
01:49:29.440
about convincing people because it's happening so much and it's tied to the lgb civil rights movement
01:49:37.680
which has already been um accepted mostly accepted in western cultures advanced western cultures
01:49:44.000
you know gay people can you know have jobs and live in the society and be happy and comfortable
01:49:51.280
and you know um so this is tied to this human rights movement and so nobody's really thinking
01:49:58.320
about it because this is the information that they get and the other sources of information are
01:50:03.120
virtually cut off censored so they're not getting that information they only get the drumbeat trans rights
01:50:10.000
or human rights trans rights and human rights trans rights and human rights right and especially young
01:50:15.360
people you know they're they're impressionable they're young they're full of you know youthful
01:50:22.720
zeal and rebellion and they're looking for themselves they're looking to find themselves and um
01:50:31.040
you know you have mostly two-parent households where both parents are out of the house
01:50:35.840
you know for for large periods of time kids are stuck in nursery schools or you know pre-k schools
01:50:43.280
and they're not getting the attention and they're also on their tech you know i've seen babies in the
01:50:48.720
store you know the mother gives them a phone or a tablet you know to keep them quiet and young kids
01:50:55.120
they're on their games and they're on their technologies now and the parents um even when they get together
01:51:00.960
the kids you know your friend comes over to your house they're like they're all on their tech
01:51:05.360
right and your parents doesn't really know like what are the conversations you're having on there
01:51:10.320
it's private whereas you used to have your kids used to have conversations with each other
01:51:15.280
out in the open and you could you know you could overhear them even you weren't like really listening
01:51:19.600
to them so you had a sense of like well how are their minds developing what were they watching what
01:51:23.840
was influencing them but now it's like it's a total you know it's a total freak fest because there's all
01:51:30.000
these influencers on their social media especially like on tick tock and tick tock is platformed with
01:51:36.960
um is um melded with planned parenthood which is like the largest uh dispenser of puberty blockers
01:51:44.080
in the united states can i ask you a question they're all partnered up i've been wrestling with this um
01:51:52.320
understanding that a lot of the youth who get attracted to this
01:51:54.720
they're not really having any genuine gender dysphoria they're just looking for some way to
01:52:01.040
rebel or express themselves or feel like they're special or they belong but still given that it's
01:52:07.920
become a social contagion certainly for girls and i think for boys too at this point yes would would
01:52:14.160
you what would you say to parents out there if a child comes home you know 14 15 years old saying
01:52:20.800
oh this is my new best friend you know jenna but it's really john and you know it was john six months
01:52:29.920
ago like without being disparaging to any one individual i have to say i'd have qualms and i
01:52:38.720
like i just don't know how healthy it would be at this point given this social contagious contagion
01:52:43.760
factor to have your kids spending a bunch of time and i i know it sounds cruel like don't hang out with
01:52:49.520
a transgender person but i see this person as very confused i really wouldn't want my kid hanging
01:52:53.520
around with a cutter either you know like that's that person's having some serious mental struggles
01:52:59.440
and i think you you can probably my mother always used to say life is too short to surround
01:53:04.000
yourself with unhealthy people it does matter so what i i don't mean to sound matters heartless
01:53:09.600
but what's your take on it um well it's hard to get away with you know away from at this point
01:53:18.880
because you know so many children are adopting these identities so what you have to do what's
01:53:23.920
absolutely imperative is that you talk to your children about what's happening they need to know
01:53:29.040
about corporate influence they need to know about what's happening here exactly um you know that some
01:53:36.160
people have a disorder of their thinking and it's you know it's unkind to be unkind to them
01:53:44.320
but it's not real none of this gender blah blah blah is real and they have to understand this they
01:53:51.280
have to know this i have a relative who has a daughter when she was four you know she has four
01:53:56.560
brothers and she came to um my relative and she said you know uh i wanted i want to be a boy i'm a boy
01:54:04.800
and she's you know this person said no you're not and you're never going to be you can do whatever
01:54:09.760
you want that a boy can do you can cut your hair you can wear whatever you want you can say whatever
01:54:13.920
you want you can be engaged in whatever activities you want don't care up to you but you're not a boy
01:54:20.480
and you're never going to be a boy and that was it that was the end of it it's perfect that's what
01:54:35.200
it's not so hard you can still do it this happens you have to get them off tech you have to get them
01:54:40.560
away from tech get them into the natural world get them engaged in other things learn a language
01:54:46.640
take music classes you know be surrounded with other healthy children that are embodied and enjoying
01:54:52.800
their bodies you know gymnastics you know sports so that they can feel their bodies at this point
01:54:59.120
you know they're so involved in tech that this technology is so real for them you know that
01:55:04.080
the identities that they're forming there are so real you know that you have to divorce them from this
01:55:10.160
technology and how about the capture you know is there any as somebody who's immersed herself
01:55:17.920
professionally and studying the amount of dollars put towards this agenda how it's been pushed on us
01:55:23.200
through the medical industrial complex through the tech con complex is there any way out of this like
01:55:31.120
do we emerge like for example i feel like we're starting to emerge from the black lives matter
01:55:36.480
race essentialism madness well it's not done but we're in a better place than we were in 2020 that's for
01:55:42.080
sure but now i'm starting to feel like my god is there no way out of this because you've got all
01:55:47.600
these billionaires george soros and the pritzkers and you know john striker and etc how do we extract
01:55:55.840
their tentacles from our lives and is there any restoring normalcy well i mean i don't really know
01:56:06.880
the answer to that i don't know where this is going but resisting my own enslavement is um and the
01:56:13.200
enslavement of the children in my life uh is of paramount importance to me and it's exhilarating
01:56:21.840
to call out the truth in a sea of lies it's absolutely exhilarating so it is exhilarating
01:56:30.400
so i think that we need to do that and need to look at it like that and activism is a love story and
01:56:35.440
everybody really needs to become an activist at this point you don't have a choice you have to become an
01:56:39.120
activist you have to organize against this you can't just leave it to the activists or leave
01:56:43.840
it to somebody else you know you have to organize in your own communities um and you know there's a
01:56:50.720
lot a lot of pushback now and it hasn't happened what are we what are we organizing for can you help
01:56:56.720
me like to the to the moms and dads listening to this right now we're like okay i'm in what exactly do
01:57:02.240
they need to do well they need to go to their school boards and say i want this this you know we i
01:57:07.840
want this out of my my kids schools right i don't want this here you have to organize with other
01:57:14.320
parents to go in there and make sure it's not happening you know you have to file lawsuits
01:57:20.320
against these people that are trying to indoctrinate your children wherever it's happening
01:57:25.760
um doctors are now being sued by by people who have had these um surgeries young people who are now
01:57:33.600
you know in regret mode after they've woken up and they're you know and films are being made about
01:57:38.880
these people you know and about well that's what i feel like i've been in several films now
01:57:43.920
i think joey bright was the first person who mentioned you and mentioned the medical industrial
01:57:48.080
complex aspect of this to me and she of course made a great film that we profiled on the show uh
01:57:53.200
my team's gonna remind me of the names escaping me but i give her credit in any event yes so keep going
01:57:58.560
uh yeah so you know you have to use your skills whatever they are you know whatever they are you
01:58:06.960
can be funny i mean there's a guy there's several guys on youtube that are funny and they make fun they
01:58:13.920
make fun of this issue and there are other people that make songs about it there's a there's a guy on
01:58:18.640
youtube um and uh twitter that makes uh rap music about this that is really really good um you know if you're
01:58:27.040
funny be funny if you're if you make music you know make music if you're you know if you're good
01:58:32.720
at organizing organize people um you have to work to your strengths but you have to become active and
01:58:38.560
mobile to you know to resist this um good advice and whatever happens the um the name of joey's
01:58:47.360
film and she came on and profiled and she changed the name but anyway right now it's affirmation
01:58:51.680
generation i watched it i couldn't remember it either it's very it's very reasonable and it's
01:58:58.160
well worth your time and it's very exposing of a lot of you know what we're talking about and beyond
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i'm actually in that generation joey yeah that was the first introduction i had to you and then on
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twitter as well i mean you're just a wealth of information and like so many fearless women who are
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doing what you're doing um like invaluable to those of us who can't devote as much time
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thank you jennifer all for all the work you do thanks for being so accommodating of us and our
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scheduling and i i really my pleasure my pleasure and you're so brave to be just like you know
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putting this out there i really really appreciate it oh no it's it's all you my friend and people if
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you want to find more about jennifer now it's the 11th our blog.com is it 11th like one one th or is it
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11th yes spelled out it's numerical one one okay okay so the 11th one one th our blog.com um you're
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not going to find anybody better than this on on this topic it's so nice to meet you in person to be
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continued thank you all right and all the best to our audience please do stay safe this weekend
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take precautions you just never know and um now's a good time to stay vigilant and you know as we used
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to say if you see something say something we'll see you monday thanks for listening to the megan