The Megyn Kelly Show - Jews Targeted in ＂Day of Rage,＂ and the Money Behind Trans Movement, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Noah Rothman, and Jennifer Bilek

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00:00:02.800 Someone is trying to frame us.

00:00:05.160 Until our names are cleared.

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00:00:12.840 Espionage?

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00:00:30.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:32.580 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:41.640 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.340 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:44.840 A world on edge and America on alert.

00:00:47.900 As Hamas' call for a day of rage 0.91

00:00:50.220 appears to be living up to its name.

00:00:52.800 Here at home, authorities have increased police presence

00:00:55.020 around Jewish schools and synagogues.

00:00:57.340 The NYPD has ordered all officers to report to work today.

00:01:02.880 In northern France, a suspected terror attack at a school has already left one teacher dead,

00:01:09.060 several others critically wounded, stabbed, we are told.

00:01:13.560 The suspect, a man in his early 20s and of Chechen origin, reportedly shouted,

00:01:18.520 Allahu Akbar.

00:01:19.780 I don't even like to say those words.

00:01:21.740 Those words to me are just associated with this kind of death and destruction.

00:01:25.660 As he unleashed his deadly knife attack,

00:01:28.900 we're seeing reports that he is a former student at that school.

00:01:32.580 And years ago, staffer's voice concerned,

00:01:34.720 concerns that he had been radicalized.

00:01:36.580 His younger brother, coincidentally, has also been detained.

00:01:40.380 5,000 miles away in Beijing, another attack caught on video.

00:01:45.340 In it, you will see a man who works at the Israeli embassy being stabbed.

00:01:50.800 Blood was visible all over the sidewalk.

00:01:53.480 Just take a look at this.

00:01:54.420 A hate-filled man ready to plunge the knife in.

00:01:57.500 It is unclear what transpired before this attack.

00:02:00.620 The victim, amazingly, is in stable condition.

00:02:05.000 The suspect has been arrested.

00:02:06.340 We don't know much about the suspect, but reports suggest he was not Chinese.

00:02:10.520 Elsewhere, we're seeing an absolute lack of regard for the innocent lives that have been destroyed.

00:02:14.380 In London yesterday, women were caught on video, 0.60

00:02:17.200 this is disgusting, tearing down posters of Israeli victims.

00:02:22.960 Furious that anyone would dare to call attention to those who have been kidnapped by terrorists,

00:02:28.420 and we know those who have been kidnapped, include women and young children.

00:02:32.160 Watch this.

00:02:34.200 It's outrageous. 1.00

00:02:39.280 This is fucking outrageous. 1.00

00:02:41.520 What's outrageous? 1.00

00:02:42.820 You.

00:02:44.260 Why don't you do something for Palestine?

00:02:46.640 Why don't you do anything?

00:02:47.440 This is for Palestine.

00:02:48.420 Back here in the U.S., on campus after campus, many young people are showing where their allegiance lies,

00:02:59.800 and it's not with the Israelis.

00:03:01.660 There is only one solution!

00:03:03.420 There is only one solution!

00:03:05.300 There is only a revolution!

00:03:05.880 There is only a revolution!

00:03:07.380 It is even proper revolution for the team!

00:03:09.260 All of the smallest, we will be free!

00:03:10.460 Salido, we will be free!

00:03:11.220 Palestine will be free! 1.00

00:03:12.120 Fuck Israel, no problem. 1.00

00:03:14.120 Fuck Israel. 1.00

00:03:15.120 They got changed, we got hanged liars. 1.00

00:03:23.120 They got changed, we got hanged liars. 0.98

00:03:26.120 Glory to the resistance fighters.

00:03:29.120 Glory to the resistance fighters.

00:03:32.120 Palestine will be free.

00:03:34.120 Israel, Israel, you can't hide.

00:03:38.120 We turn you with genocide.

00:03:42.120 The one chant hard to hear, but it's important to know what they said.

00:03:48.120 It happened at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia.

00:03:51.120 They were saying they've got tanks.

00:03:53.120 We've, we've got hang gliders.

00:03:57.120 Glory to the resistance fighters.

00:03:59.120 So it's a we now.

00:04:01.120 You want to be a we with the ones who are murdering babies. 0.63

00:04:05.120 Okay.

00:04:06.120 Got it.

00:04:07.120 Noted.

00:04:08.120 Wait until you submit your resume to my company or the company of any self-respecting lover of humanity.

00:04:17.120 Hang gliders, of course, used by Hamas.

00:04:20.120 Not fighters, but terrorists to carry out this past Saturday's deadly attack.

00:04:26.120 The hate being spewed on our college campuses proving too much to bear.

00:04:30.120 And who could blame her for a Jewish girl at the University of Washington? 0.72

00:04:34.120 Can I just, before we air this, just think about what's been happening on the college campuses where, I mean, for anything and everything you have these people saying, I feel dehumanized.

00:04:47.120 I'm dehumanized by your Halloween costume.

00:04:50.120 This is what we hear.

00:04:51.120 People get fired.

00:04:53.120 The over the top reaction.

00:04:56.120 This woman just had her people attacked in a massive terror attack in Israel where people who look like her, who share her faith, were brutally cut down at age 20, at age two.

00:05:12.120 And she's got to look at people who are sympathizing with the murderers two feet from her on a college campus.

00:05:19.120 I'm not saying that our free speech laws don't allow it.

00:05:22.120 Okay.

00:05:23.120 I'm not saying that.

00:05:24.120 I don't, I don't know whether this is a funded, a publicly funded university or not, but my point is, this actually is a dehumanizing situation.

00:05:32.120 This actually is a situation in which she might truly feel, quote, unsafe. 0.89

00:05:37.120 This word that has been perpetuated on every college campus or the stupidest non-existent slights. 0.94

00:05:43.120 But when it's an actual Jewish woman afraid at the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas people right next to her chanting things like from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, which means no more Israel. 0.97

00:05:55.120 It's sorry.

00:05:56.120 Oh, well, you're good.

00:05:58.120 Watch this as she appears to beg a school administrator to intervene. 0.97

00:06:03.120 They want our people dead. 1.00

00:06:08.120 They want us killed. 1.00

00:06:10.120 They want us dead. 0.99

00:06:15.120 Please, Landon, please.

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00:06:22.120 Someone is trying to frame us.

00:06:24.120 Until our names are cleared.

00:06:26.120 We're fugitives from Interpol.

00:06:28.120 Like Bonnie and Clyde with better snacks.

00:06:31.120 Espionage.

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00:06:36.120 Better.

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00:06:50.120 Joining me now is someone who knows all too well what radicalization can do.

00:06:54.120 Ayaan Hirsi Ali, human rights activist and founder of the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Foundation.

00:07:00.120 And for those who don't know Ayaan's background, she grew up in Somalia and underwent all sorts of difficult experiences which have been well documented and managed, though you found yourself surrounded by Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists, to get yourself out of that and find an entirely new life.

00:07:21.120 And you've been a brave spokesperson against these kinds of atrocities ever since.

00:07:27.120 So Ayaan, I haven't had the chance to talk to you since Saturday's events.

00:07:30.120 What are you seeing?

00:07:32.120 And how are you reacting right now to what's unfolded?

00:07:36.120 So I'm seeing everything that you described and more.

00:07:41.120 And I'm looking at the different countries, of course, the United States, where we're seeing an entire generation that have been brainwashed to react against their own values, against their own country, against their own civilization.

00:07:56.120 And I'm seeing similar things in Europe.

00:08:01.120 I'm watching the Arab Gulf War today.

00:08:05.120 There was a call from Hamas and other radicals calling on all Muslims to take to the streets and to protest.

00:08:13.120 And you don't see much of that in the Arab world today.

00:08:18.120 So I think, you know, in a horrific context, we are seeing some progress there.

00:08:25.120 But I joined this debate right after 9-11.

00:08:30.120 And I remember, as we were reflecting on 9-11, and I was in Amsterdam at that time, there was this big question, how could this happen?

00:08:41.120 And we talked about complacency.

00:08:43.120 And now you have different levels of complacency.

00:08:46.120 So Israel momentarily forgot about the enemy that wants to wipe them off the map.

00:08:55.120 And they were fighting amongst themselves about reforming their Supreme Court.

00:09:00.120 You know, I wish that Israelis could behave like other democracies.

00:09:09.120 I wish that they could have their internal disputes and forget that they have this external enemy that wants to exterminate them.

00:09:17.120 But the price of distraction is what they're paying now.

00:09:21.120 Even for us in America, 9-11, 2001, and in Europe, you know, 7-7, 2000, I believe that was five.

00:09:33.120 And then a series of jihadi terrorist attacks in Europe.

00:09:41.120 I find that Western nations are really complacent.

00:09:44.120 We've gone back to forgetting about what happened.

00:09:47.120 Every time we get a lull, you know, ISIS was taken down by the Trump administration.

00:09:53.120 I think we lulled ourselves back into sleep, into thinking this jihadi monster is gone for good. 1.00

00:10:01.120 We forget that there are two components to this.

00:10:08.120 There is jihad, there is the violence, the terrorism.

00:10:11.120 And we unleash our security and police forces, and sometimes, when necessary, our military forces on them.

00:10:17.120 But what we truly forget is the DAO aspect of it.

00:10:21.120 The exercises, the efforts to brainwash small children, teenagers, adults in universities and beyond.

00:10:30.120 That's what we forget.

00:10:31.120 So when you look at our campuses and you see, you know, our kids, these are our kids in legacy universities, chanting on and cheering on an entity that just committed the most barbaric, most heinous attacks on babies, on grandmothers.

00:10:52.120 Then you really have to ask yourself, all the governing boards, the presidents of these universities, what are we doing to our own kids?

00:11:02.120 These kids who go to Columbia and Yale and Stanford and Harvard and on and on, these are the people who are going to be running our country.

00:11:10.120 I am in my 50s.

00:11:12.120 They are the next generation.

00:11:13.120 They are the ones who are coming to leadership positions, and that doesn't look promising.

00:11:17.120 And aside from that, so look at what happened right now to Israel.

00:11:22.120 They got momentarily distracted with internal issues, and the existential enemy came around and took advantage of that opportunity.

00:11:32.120 We in America, we have Putin, we're assisting as much as we can, Ukraine, and there we have an enemy that sees an opportunity and an opening every time we engage and indulge in infighting.

00:11:49.120 And he, Putin, and his administration, they divide us, and they know how to divide us, and they take advantage of dividing us, and so does China, and so does Iran that assisted Hamas in carrying out this attack.

00:12:08.120 So we have enemies that are prepared, that are intent upon destroying us, and upon dividing us, and over and over again, we give them the opportunity to do just that.

00:12:21.120 A house divided can't stand for long.

00:12:24.120 And I think, I mean, for a few, maybe two or three years after ISIS was defeated, I felt a sense of hope, hope for Arabs and Muslims that they had seen with their eyes what the so-called Islamic State was, not the utopia that they promised, but a place of gruesome brutality and cruelty, 0.91

00:12:49.120 where they behead people, where they behead people, enslave, rape women, kill children, and then program those children with hatred.

00:12:56.120 So everyone saw what the Islamic State was all about, right? 1.00

00:13:00.120 And so for a while, I thought, okay, the Arab world, they have seen those, the youth of the Arab world, they know what it is and they don't like this.

00:13:10.120 And then I thought, what about our Muslim minorities in America and in Europe?

00:13:15.120 They too must have seen surely what that is.

00:13:18.120 And no, they haven't, because the programming effort that is carried out by a movement like the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, and, you know, a panoply of radical Islamic networks that are active and feel themselves protected on American soil, on European soil.

00:13:40.120 So they carry on programming using free speech when it suits them, freedom of speech, freedom of religion when it suits them, freedom of association when it suits them to program our kids and our populations with hatred.

00:13:55.120 And when we speak out against that, they say speech is violence.

00:13:59.120 And unfortunately for us, they've captured the hearts and minds of our own kids, non-Muslims, moderate Muslims, even Jewish kids.

00:14:08.120 You know, last time I spoke to a friend of mine who is active in the, you know, fight against anti-Semitism space.

00:14:16.120 And I was asking her, why is it that so many of my Jewish friends are not fighting, they're not standing up against against wokeism because wokeism, identity politics, it's many things, but it's especially anti-Semitic. 0.62

00:14:31.120 And it is through these woke, you know, critical race theory, the whole gender politics, this intersectionality, that is used as a pathway to make hatred of Jews acceptable again.

00:14:50.120 And my friend couldn't answer that question.

00:14:53.120 She said, you know what, I just think that Jewish people really, they just want to live and let others live.

00:15:00.120 Unfortunately, Hamas and the radicals don't want to let them live. 0.91

00:15:05.120 And that's what we're waking up to today.

00:15:07.120 The shocking thing is, and, you know, you and I have talked many times over the years, including during the height of the ISIS atrocities, the country, we were unified against that.

00:15:20.120 You know, maybe there were a few fringy, weird radicals in the United States who said, yeah, OK, they've got a point.

00:15:26.560 I don't know who those were, but they didn't have any sort of a voice that was getting attention here.

00:15:31.220 You know, at campus after campus, both at the university, you know, administrative level and at the student level, not to mention some of these, you know, the democratic socialists, open rallies in support of, it's got to be said, Hamas. 0.74

00:15:47.520 They may say Palestine.

00:15:49.860 There is no way they don't mean Hamas. 1.00

00:15:51.940 It happened in some instances while the Hamas attacks were going on, while the terror attacks were going on.

00:15:58.100 You've been warning for a long time about the open borders problem, in particular in Europe, and how the influx in some cases of radicalized Muslim men and others is changing the culture as we knew it in places like France and elsewhere and in our own home as well.

00:16:19.000 But in particular, we talked all about this when I first launched the show because you just had a new book out about France.

00:16:24.840 I thought of you this morning as we saw these Paris-France protests.

00:16:30.060 What they're saying in French is we are all Palestinians, and they're saying it with fervor.

00:16:35.760 Look at this soundbite, Sot 5.

00:16:37.180 We are all you...

00:16:50.400 the signs read israel criminal and these people are defying in france you can't protest freely

00:17:20.320 like you can here in the united states there's uh actually a crackdown on the protest but they

00:17:24.380 came out anyway this is how important it was to them to make sure we knew they felt israel was a 0.53

00:17:28.960 criminal and the cheers of jubilation jubilation in the wake of murdered children raped women

00:17:35.660 day you know to 1200 dead israelis they're they're thrilled ayan how does it all relate

00:17:40.600 well i think this is very well documented the fifth column in france the presence for many many years

00:17:50.080 of these programming networks the dawa networks that brainwash all these people that you've seen

00:17:55.160 many of them really born in france maybe even their parents were born in france so this is very very

00:18:02.260 well documented and this is a conundrum for france but increasingly also for other european countries

00:18:08.400 what do you do because you have freedom of religion and freedom of speech and all of these freedoms

00:18:14.300 that these uh jihadist programmers they take advantage of these people learned to think and to chant what 0.76

00:18:25.720 they're chanting not in egypt not uh in the middle east not in any islamic country but in france

00:18:33.880 and it's well documented it's well known and we've known it now for decades um but i guess the french

00:18:40.380 government and french society um talk about it they write about it they discuss it all the time

00:18:48.040 it features in their politics but they don't seem to have found a way out of this conundrum

00:18:53.640 and i don't think now and now in france five people are stabbed attacked and at least one man

00:19:00.120 dead as a result of this his name uh per the son is dominique bernand a french literate literature

00:19:07.480 teacher aged someplace in his 40s again reports of about five people being stabbed go ahead megan

00:19:14.700 it's more frightening than just that you've seen now the crowds that you just showed me but there's

00:19:20.360 another issue that nobody wants to talk about and there's the demographic crisis in france in italy in

00:19:26.740 spain in britain all of these european countries the people who are chanting this are very young

00:19:32.520 and they're numerous and they have more babies than everybody else and the french are growing old 1.00

00:19:39.380 they're retiring they're not having children and i remember a muslim brotherhood prominent um you know

00:19:47.160 inspirer of this yusuf al-qaradawi uh when they would carry out some of these terrorist attacks that

00:19:54.320 they considered jihad yusuf al-qaradawi would say to them you know what you don't need to use you don't

00:20:01.260 need to carry out terrorist attacks you the the most important strategy for you to follow 0.99

00:20:07.800 is to bring in as many immigrants as possible and to have as many babies as possible 1.00

00:20:12.600 and that is how you take over europe without firing a single shot and so you look at this

00:20:20.320 phenomenon now and you just see over time uh if things go the way they're going and the french 1.00

00:20:28.540 governments and society they do nothing about this this is just going to be a natural process

00:20:34.500 of replacement um and displacement so i think the future right now um it's it's pretty grim for france

00:20:45.980 i almost want to say grimmer for france than it is for israel but what happened in israel is a wake-up

00:20:52.360 call i hope i hope it is yes we've had so many wake-up calls i don't know where to begin

00:20:58.620 9-11 was the big bang and in between you saw all of those these people don't hide what they believe

00:21:05.960 in they don't hide their agenda it's on the internet it's on social media it's everywhere

00:21:11.140 they say it to us they want to destroy us and then we make excuses for them and i hope with this event

00:21:19.400 we learn from it and we stop making excuses and we strategize about how to deal with this

00:21:25.080 while we still can instead we're putting them in charge of media organizations and in college

00:21:32.500 campuses as university professors in law schools as law school as the next generation of up-and-coming

00:21:38.420 lawyers we've seen that this week too and that brings me to stanford uh where you are and at stanford

00:21:45.080 an instructor a teaching assistant uh was just suspended that's it they didn't name him but we

00:21:52.980 will for a little stunt he pulled uh the rabbi at the stanford jewish center came forward and outed

00:22:02.020 this guy because the rabbi was told by three students that this instructor whose name is amir hassan

00:22:08.940 login according to campus reform they're identifying him and this man got his class together in a

00:22:17.700 required undergraduate course called civil liberal and global education told the jewish students to

00:22:24.600 take their things stand in a corner and said this is what israel does to the palestinians uh and then 0.76

00:22:30.960 asked how many people died in the holocaust when one student answered six million reporting here uh quoting

00:22:37.600 from uh forward magazine the lecturer said colonizers killed more than six million israel is a colonizer

00:22:45.860 stanford's response was to remove the instructor from teaching duties again it's a suspension

00:22:52.500 they did not name him and they did not provide details of the incident their explanation was he addressed

00:23:01.680 the middle east conflict in a manner that called out individual students in class based on their

00:23:06.820 backgrounds and identities um that's not exactly the full problem stanford we stanford's turned into 0.66

00:23:16.220 ground zero in a lot of these problems you know with the the ridiculous rape accusations and them

00:23:22.060 buying into that and the blm stuff and the lgbtq and now this i mean they're other than the hoover

00:23:27.180 institution i on they're on the wrong side of virtually all of these things because again it is this

00:23:32.860 diversity equity and inclusion it's not about the core task the job of a university is to teach kids

00:23:43.960 how to think not what to think but then this fringe i mean in you said in uh nine after 9-11

00:23:52.560 uh we were all united except for this fringe and you know these these weirdos but now it's the fringe

00:24:00.000 and the weirdos that run the show and they got themselves positions where they are in by invoking

00:24:06.660 diversity equity and inclusion and then deploying this diversity equity and inclusion brigade of

00:24:14.660 administrators and so now we are kowtowing to them we're actually scared of this guy

00:24:22.740 um because of what he could unleash um because of what he could unleash administratively speaking at

00:24:28.800 stanford i know i can vouch that for most students at stanford and faculty they don't agree with him

00:24:35.400 they're horrified just like we are but we're all terrified of this diverse diversity equity and 1.00

00:24:42.240 inclusion police that we have brought on as a matter of tolerance and i think there was a strategy

00:24:48.640 a narrative that took hold in the 2000s and the 2010s that if only we include these various people

00:24:59.080 identities minorities then things will be great and we'll we'll find ourselves in a utopia 1.00

00:25:05.100 no no the fringe were a fringe for a reason because their ideas were outlandish and inhuman

00:25:13.480 and tyrannical and they are on it's all power centered and all they want is to destroy us and our

00:25:21.640 structures and our institutions they haven't changed their agenda we have to get wake up and end this

00:25:29.520 complacency now still uh notwithstanding what we've seen this week you get people peppering the

00:25:38.620 israeli israeli leaders with questions like how dare you how could you possibly cut off the food and

00:25:44.040 the water supply into gaza gaza which is just committed a mass murder of the israeli citizens

00:25:49.200 how could you and we saw an interesting exchange on this uh between it was the israeli president

00:25:56.320 isaac herzog and a uk broadcaster channel 4 asking that question take a listen it's soundbite 6

00:26:02.680 question is this if i may you seem to hold the people of gaza the civilians of gaza responsible for

00:26:10.080 not removing hamas and therefore by implication that makes them legitimate targets no i didn't say

00:26:17.460 that but i did not say that i want to make it clear i was asked something about separating civilians 0.99

00:26:23.900 from hamas but with all the respect with all the respect if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen 0.97

00:26:31.400 and you want to shoot it at me am i allowed to defend myself yes no one is denying these missiles 0.99

00:26:39.400 are there these missiles are launched the button is pressed the missile comes out from the kitchen

00:26:44.920 onto my children but right and yet israel's being asked to keep supplies going to those folks

00:26:53.260 it's well documented it's well documented that hamas installs i mean and fights you know their sites for

00:27:02.140 launching rockets are in people's kitchens and in people's neighborhoods among civilians you know why

00:27:08.540 because hamas constantly again they don't hide their agenda they say over and over again you guys you 0.74

00:27:14.780 love life we love death and that's what hamas is doing to palestinians to their own people 1.00

00:27:21.700 putting rocket launching sites amongst themselves indoctrinating and programming their kids strapping

00:27:28.260 bombs on palestinian kids and for this i don't i didn't see the guy who's asking the question but you

00:27:35.880 know various branches of the united nations amnesty international which has been corrupted human rights

00:27:41.020 watch which has been corrupted all of these organizations they need to see that if there is an

00:27:46.760 organization that is using their own children palestinian children as weapons palestinian women 0.96

00:27:54.260 palestinian the elderly people they're just using them as fodder you know as ammunition 1.00

00:28:01.880 and for them for hamas it's only about their nihilistic utopia 0.51

00:28:08.100 they they say constantly we want to destroy israel by any means and by any means they mean their own 0.64

00:28:16.780 kids their own people that's exactly right i don't think you can make excuses for there's no way that

00:28:23.920 you're glaring we're looking staring evil in the face this is what hamas is hamas is it's isis

00:28:31.700 and i think the longer you you extend this the more lives it impacts the more human suffering it

00:28:39.160 causes on both sides hamas needs to be taken out and i think the entire world every decent human

00:28:46.140 being should stand behind the goal of taking out hamas completely and then i think peace and 0.99

00:28:52.880 prosperity between the people of israel and the palestinians has a chance you know the a couple

00:29:00.500 years ago i think it was 2016 um i can't remember which group it was they put they put this together

00:29:05.660 they went and they interviewed palestinian children about how they feel about the israelis

00:29:10.740 who want peace the israelis wanted to be left alone that's what they pulled out of gaza they said

00:29:14.840 you it's your territory you guys go do with it what you will what you will elected hamas a terrorist 0.81

00:29:19.240 group and and they started bombing israel hence the blockade hence israel saying all right fine

00:29:23.880 that's what you want to do but still israel allowed hamas to come into israel work people from gaza to

00:29:28.880 come into israel and work there there was a story in the new york times the daily podcast today with

00:29:33.200 an israeli man talking about how his wife would regularly i think once a week go and pick up children

00:29:38.820 from gaza and bring them to israeli hospitals so they could get uh diabetes treatments like dialysis

00:29:45.980 once a week trying to help the children thinking you know what maybe we're on the road to peace

00:29:50.600 and then we saw that soundbite from the hamas leader just yesterday saying we we fooled them all

00:29:55.480 we we stayed quiet for two and a half years letting them think that we were actually going to go toward

00:30:00.140 the peace process process but the whole time he's proud he's excited we worked toward this attack the

00:30:05.740 entire time we were working toward it and was thrilled that they had managed to fool israel but on 1.00

00:30:10.840 the subject of the children ian and what we discussed at the top of the hour too what how how are they

00:30:15.440 raising their children the israelis want peace they are not raising their children to hate the

00:30:19.240 palestinians at all and yet in palestine this is from 2016 i'll read for the watching audience on

00:30:26.160 youtube you can see it for yourself a listening audience i'll read what the children are saying watch

00:30:29.660 we have to make war to prove we are stronger than the jews people of palestine and they're ready to 1.00

00:30:43.600 die for it i'm ready to stab the jew and drive a car over them i will fight 1.00

00:30:52.600 you have to constantly stab them drive over them shoot them the jews and it goes on little one saying 1.00

00:31:03.040 i can't wait to join isis and kill jews i mean these are babes these are single digit children 1.00

00:31:09.300 and my heart breaks for them because they have been put in these so-called madrasas it's really 1.00

00:31:16.000 programming centers and they've been programmed this way and they're not learning anything to

00:31:24.000 learn how to live and flourish in this world they're not learning maths science language you know all the

00:31:31.980 things that we care about that we think you know as a child this is what will help you if you want to

00:31:36.860 build you know an economic spiritual you know political social life that's not what these kids are

00:31:45.580 getting these kids are just being turned into destroyers by people who like to destroy and just

00:31:52.000 for the sake of those children i think hamas should be destroyed and the reason is they will keep doing 0.99

00:31:58.680 this to every generation and they will keep spreading this they've spread i lived in nairobi kenya i grew up 0.96

00:32:06.340 a somali uh we had our own problems but when the muslim brotherhood came to our neighborhoods that's what 1.00

00:32:13.460 they were teaching us you know we we were praying for the destruction of the jews none of us had ever 1.00

00:32:18.800 seen a jew we we couldn't the first time i saw a jew i was disappointed because i saw a human being

00:32:24.460 walking in antwerp in belgium and i thought oh that's a jew and it was like i don't know like a

00:32:29.920 kid going to disneyland and expecting this horrific monster with ears and a nose and all the pictures that

00:32:35.440 we used to see and it was just a man with his skin and i thought that's all i mean that's a jew but

00:32:43.080 that's how the indoctrination how the programming works and this is they've done hamas the muslim 0.97

00:32:49.440 brotherhood these radical islamists they've done this to generations of people just really poisoned 1.00

00:32:54.760 and contaminated their brains and i feel fortunate that i don't think that way anymore and one of the

00:33:01.340 reasons why i continue to speak out and to tell please don't be upset with those kids they're just

00:33:06.960 kids they're trusting and the adults they trust they're the ones who are putting them in that position

00:33:12.300 moreover i've spoken to arabs and palestinians and when the cameras are off there's no one watching

00:33:18.520 they hate it they're over they're done with this

00:33:21.140 it's they don't like it hamas has them hostage so this is really a message to the people who say they

00:33:31.080 care about palestinians and arabs and muslims we really should get rid of organizations like hamas 1.00

00:33:37.560 because as they say they love death so for those of us who love life we have to unite regardless of 0.81

00:33:45.600 our backgrounds and our religions and we really need to get rid of them get them out 1.00

00:33:50.200 as you said always call out always call out yeah always call out their ideologies in our universities

00:33:58.440 in our corporations in our churches on our streets in our media i i don't think we should have any

00:34:03.540 more patience with this type of thing there's no more excuses to be made for it and this guy at

00:34:08.760 stanford ought to be fired along with all the other university professors who are speaking out

00:34:12.640 i think it's more than firing began i think it's more than i think we need to completely review this

00:34:17.760 issue this whole diversity equity thing has gone way too far and i think all of the universities

00:34:23.640 they need to get and have serious adult discussion about what the heck is this and how did we allow

00:34:30.180 it and we need to reform our universities fast yeah we talked yesterday about the the big donor at

00:34:38.240 upenn who was calling for exactly that saying this is the dei thing's gone too far we've all been

00:34:43.180 complicit the board of trustees the big donors it's all linked and it needs to be rolled back i want to

00:34:49.680 tell the audience uh the people behind that video was the center for near east policy research

00:34:53.860 they provided this material to congress as part of an investigation into schools and also ayan she's

00:34:59.960 written many books but the book i was referring to is called pray p-r-e-y immigration islam and the

00:35:06.940 erosion of women's rights so good to see you thank you for being with us ayan oh megan thank you so 1.00

00:35:12.720 much and thank you for the work you do i think this really needs to be heard thank you oh all the best

00:35:17.920 okay we're going to be right back with national reviews noah rothman don't go away

00:35:22.380 welcome back to the megan kelly show our next guest wrote this in his latest column about what we are

00:35:30.700 witnessing today quote the sentence you are about to read would be incomprehensible to the average

00:35:35.300 american just two decades ago 22 years after the september 11th attacks new york city's jewish

00:35:41.140 residents are keeping a low profile amid the unrest that is expected today the day of jihad

00:35:48.160 noah rothman of national review joins me now noah it's absolutely stunning it's deeply disturbing i've

00:35:55.160 been talking to my jewish friends in new york all week and they are getting similar warnings they uh my

00:36:03.560 one friend kept her daughter home from school today because she was so scared she was too afraid to go

00:36:07.960 into her her public school um when her other son got to a private school it's not a jewish school

00:36:14.500 it's you know there's a high jewish population in new york so there's a fair amount of jewish kids

00:36:18.240 there he they he arrived to uh armed security guards all over the place and guard dogs that's how he had

00:36:25.340 to enter his school today because of the quote day of jihad which has already taken lives in paris 0.95

00:36:30.680 in beijing and unfortunately i'm sure we're not done what do you put it in perspective for us

00:36:36.960 it's been profoundly hardening i will say to see some otherwise reliable progressive voices

00:36:48.220 um good liberals honest democrats watch the scales fall from their eyes as they see their compatriots

00:36:57.220 sympathize with the slaughter of israeli citizens the murder of senior citizens the immolation 0.90

00:37:06.820 of whole families people uh sheltering their children in their arms covered in the blood

00:37:13.240 of their children begging for the lives of their remaining young and i hope that it lasts

00:37:19.280 i don't suspect it will there is a impulse on the left which has been documented now by

00:37:27.480 um good democratic uh jews over the course of the last decade which imparts to their 0.91

00:37:33.540 co-partisans the kind of generosity of spirit they have that they see themselves and everyone else

00:37:40.060 they perceive themselves to be sophisticates to be capable of comprehending the nuance of the situation

00:37:45.380 to be beyond these uh manichaean notions of good and evil gauche but they're not and every time they

00:37:54.520 they convince themselves of this they are ultimately betrayed by the people who are supposedly on their side

00:38:01.140 because the real evil the profound evil is in us it is in the west it isn't it is in israel it is in

00:38:09.200 the jews this isn't about israel hasn't been about the borders of israel the status of jerusalem the

00:38:14.120 existence of the jewish state for a very long time it's the jews who are being targeted in western

00:38:18.780 european countries in new york city not about israel this was an attack on jews for being jews and there

00:38:25.760 are people who think that's appropriate that makes sense their lives are not as valuable as our own

00:38:30.980 a lot of democrats right now are confronting these sentiments and saying this is not me and i don't

00:38:35.080 i don't accept that i don't condone that but when the partisan boundary lines reform around this

00:38:40.160 contest around this conflict and it's the right that's on one side and the left that's on another

00:38:44.320 negative partisanship will kick back in and all these revelations of this week will again be

00:38:49.880 compartmentalized and subordinated to the need to rally around the team i hope it doesn't happen

00:38:55.220 but i hope it doesn't i suggest i think it will you i mean better than anybody we've talked about

00:39:01.380 your amazing book the new puritans many times and i've referenced it many times when you haven't been

00:39:07.400 here because i have yet to read something that did a better job of pointing out just the absurdity of

00:39:12.500 what upsets the woke cancel culturers who have taken over our college campuses i mean could you as the

00:39:19.000 man who literally wrote the book put in perspective like the minor grievances that these same people

00:39:24.600 who are now defending mass murder in israel managed to get themselves worked up into a lather over

00:39:30.980 about two minutes ago yes so uh that was a more satirical look at the social justice movement

00:39:38.820 my first book um was a much darker look at the social justice movement unjust and the social unjust

00:39:44.580 and the unmaking of america um and one of the features that are one of the intellectual fads that i

00:39:49.740 dissect in that book is this phenomenon of intersectionality intersectionality is sort of

00:39:54.580 useful useful useful thought experiment it compels you to see the world in a series of racialist

00:40:01.360 bigoted stereotypes in order to deconstruct those stereotypes ostensibly but the practical effect of

00:40:07.840 this ideology and marinating in it is to impart to you a worldview that is predicated on bigotries it makes

00:40:15.380 you see the world in a series of stereotypes to flatten individuals to make them into binaries and it's very

00:40:22.580 chauvinistic it views the world in a very um american sort of understanding of the world and in the american

00:40:30.360 understanding of stereotypes of bigotries jews are not an oppressed people they control the media

00:40:37.220 they are in high finance they are in the they occupy the commanding heights of entertainment

00:40:42.360 and of television um they're not oppressed they are the oppressors this is not a condition that exists

00:40:49.020 anywhere else in the planet earth save perhaps israel it's the it's testament to the united states and to 0.58

00:40:54.600 the promise that washington made george washington in 1790 in his address to the congregation of

00:41:00.020 rhode island that this country countenances no bigotry and it is home to the israelites as it is to

00:41:05.780 all the world's stateless peoples all its persecuted peoples all its oppressed peoples it is a testament to 1.00

00:41:11.020 this country where jews occupy the positions that they do in the united states but in an intersexual 0.81

00:41:15.720 point of view they're they have uh ill begotten gains on their hands which is illustrative of the

00:41:22.420 uh status that they that they occupy and it's it needs to be addressed they need to be cut down a peg 0.97

00:41:29.300 so on the ladder the hierarchical ladder of intersectionality jews are at the very very bottom 0.53

00:41:33.740 and it justifies the sorts of prejudices and it justifies the sort of violence it is it is in our

00:41:40.240 institutions as ayan said it is in our universities it is in um our boardrooms it is in politics in the

00:41:47.840 highest offices in washington dc uh and it is a noxious toxic philosophy that that it produces

00:41:54.540 this kind of bloodshed uh on a small on a smaller scale in the united states on a profoundly larger

00:41:59.520 scale in israel and elsewhere in the western world but it won't stop there if we don't stop it

00:42:04.100 i can't get over the fact that when we first launched this show we just had ayan on she was i think

00:42:09.700 episode nine she was one of the first um one of the other stories that we covered very early on

00:42:15.360 was what happened to brett weinstein at evergreen college in washington state where he got he lost

00:42:20.540 his job ultimately because the black students on campus wanted to do like a sick out for a day they 0.78

00:42:27.780 had been doing it where the black students didn't show up on a certain day of the year to sort of sort 0.96

00:42:32.000 of show people this is what life would be like without us it was voluntary on their part okay whatever 0.91

00:42:36.580 but then this one year they said no we're coming and we want everyone who's not black not to come 1.00

00:42:41.100 all the white people need to stay home and brett weinstein or then a professor there said i'm not 0.81

00:42:45.040 sure that's such i don't think you can sort of try to mandate to the whites that they not come to the 0.90

00:42:49.140 college education they're paying for that might be a bridge too far they stormed his office the office 0.95

00:42:54.720 of the dean i feel dehumanized this college is racist he's a racist how dare you how can you let 0.88

00:43:01.840 this happen and the university sided with them now you know head a little further east to 0.66

00:43:08.840 university of wisconsin and you see exactly the opposite you see i think that's where this girl

00:43:14.480 who we opened the show with was crying saying how can you allow this what do you you know look at this

00:43:19.500 these are people who are celebrating what hamas did it was washington okay it wasn't even that far

00:43:24.020 away all right washington same state um the girl's crying saying that they want my people dead

00:43:30.280 they want to kill us how can this be allowed i realize we allow protests in america but

00:43:34.920 you could much more closely see this young woman's point right and get behind her which no administration 0.92

00:43:41.360 is doing than you could those evergreen students and it's just been a 180 yeah and it's incumbent on us

00:43:48.420 to accept and allow this because we understand that that is an american value that the answer to the

00:43:56.500 ills of free speech is more free speech they don't see it that way they are not it's a misnomer

00:44:02.720 to call them liberals they are not liberals they're fundamentally illiberal they want to silence you

00:44:08.720 through coercive coercive mechanisms through threats intimidation that is an illiberal impulse

00:44:16.180 uh it is the height now of enlightened sophistication on the left to see the kind of

00:44:21.940 um racial segregation that you described just now as uh sophisticated as somehow it'll open your eyes

00:44:29.520 to the to the world around you um progress it's progress right it is it is antithetical to everything

00:44:35.180 we understand to be progress it is antithetical to every um every notion that undergirds the american

00:44:40.840 civic compact it is an assault on the civic compact it is a war on american ideology it is anti-american

00:44:47.960 we must regard it as such it is not just another flavor another intellectual fad that we're supposed

00:44:54.580 to tolerate and compartmentalize and integrate into the social fabric it is not it is an attack on the

00:45:01.140 fundaments of what hold this country together the college administrators who tolerate this sort of

00:45:07.080 thing have made a deal with the devil because it is it does not countenance them it does not countenance

00:45:12.100 their values it seeks to supplant them and replace them with something much darker and it's about time

00:45:17.700 as ian said that we need to open our eyes to the nature of this threat because it is a threat

00:45:21.760 all i can think is i never want to hear another college student or administration tell me someone

00:45:29.580 feels unsafe and therefore speech needs to be shut down so i never want to hear this again because

00:45:36.320 literally jewish americans jewish french citizens and so on might be unsafe today they actually might be 0.75

00:45:44.500 unsafe today you know we're having nyu unleash all of its cops on the city there's fbi warnings uh my 0.82

00:45:51.280 security team these guys at q verity who helped keep me safe just in case any lunatic you know you

00:45:56.200 get issues as a public figure they released um something to me today which i'll just i'll read to

00:46:01.240 you uh in part so that people can see it for them or hear it for themselves uh saying while there is

00:46:08.480 heightened security around places of worship there are potentially softer targets such as streets markets

00:46:12.620 coffee shops parking garages other areas where individuals are traveling to and from a place of

00:46:17.080 worship public transportation particularly subways and buses also particularly vulnerable today in

00:46:22.140 major cities they're saying given the uncertainty characterized above it would be wise to carefully

00:46:26.660 assess the need for travel and or activity outside your residence over the next 24 to 48 hours

00:46:31.500 this is not just for me this is for people in these major metropolitan areas in particular those with a

00:46:36.780 high palestinian population and or a high jewish population we've seen jewish kids taking off their 1.00

00:46:43.240 um you know their yarmulkes we've seen kids taking off their blazers that are identified with jewish school

00:46:49.180 as i said my friend's kids having to go through armed guards and security dogs like they actually are

00:46:55.240 potentially unsafe today and yet it's being scoffed off like this is what democracy looks like is

00:47:03.660 basically the answer and there are some who are uh more open with their sentiments and their

00:47:10.560 anti-semitism who believe that maybe jews should feel a little bit afraid today i mean if you've

00:47:15.520 supported what they call the occupation or what have you the barricades i don't even know the logic that

00:47:21.420 they use to justify the idea that's the slaughter of 1300 jews for being jews is somehow justified but 0.54

00:47:28.080 they do say that you know maybe the their fear should be shot through uh them that they should feel

00:47:33.220 unsafe um it is first of all an abrogation again of america's duty to its jewish citizens to say you 0.86

00:47:41.860 can be jews but you should be jews in the shadows you should be in hiding you should be afraid uh and it 0.98

00:47:48.140 is exactly what the terrorists are trying to commit here is trying to convince them that they are

00:47:54.760 something else that they don't belong um that is fundamentally what this country was founded to

00:48:01.520 combat in a lot of ways it hasn't always been perfect in that pursuit but it has been the

00:48:07.060 organizing principle and this is a ideological battle to get the united states to abandon its

00:48:13.660 self-conception its fundamental duty to its citizens its minority citizens new york city in particular has

00:48:19.620 been guilty of this which has seen a profound increase over the last five years of anti-semitic

00:48:24.000 incidents and its duty to its citizens have been abrogated and it's trying to make a little bit of good

00:48:29.000 here right this show of force this display of force the city's officials are not saying close down

00:48:33.460 your institutions your synagogues your businesses your schools but jews don't trust them they've lost 1.00

00:48:39.460 their trust because they've looked the other way as other constituents needs as other faddish 0.74

00:48:45.160 ideologies as other priorities became uh far more important than the safety and integrity of the city's

00:48:50.640 jewish population and then you have events like this and it all comes home to roost it demonstrates 1.00

00:48:56.300 that it is all the same conflict what happened over there is not utterly distinct from what happens

00:49:01.620 in morningside heights it is the same phenomenon it is the same conflict

00:49:06.200 and that is why you have so many people uh coming out in the middle of times square

00:49:12.680 in the middle of all these college campuses um in the middle of dearborn michigan

00:49:18.340 at the sydney opera house openly saying gas the jews and these horrific slogans openly they're like

00:49:26.720 hamas they're not embarrassed about it i mean at least the nazis tried to hide what they did

00:49:32.100 these people are doing it in the open posting videos of it and then being celebrated openly 0.93

00:49:37.120 noah stays with me stand by there's much much more to get to including more incredible ridiculous

00:49:44.180 back and forth on the murdered children in israel stay with us

00:49:49.360 welcome back to the megan kelly show back with me now noah rothman senior writer at national review

00:49:56.720 and author of the rise of the new puritans noah there's been a disturbing debate online

00:50:02.220 about the photos of the dead babies and about the claim that there are dead babies at all in israel

00:50:09.660 who have been murdered by hamas i mean excuse me this this has gotten so bad that bb netanyahu felt

00:50:16.500 the need to actually tweet out some photos of the dead infants something that israel historically never

00:50:22.880 does they tend to be very respectful of their dead so for him to do it was an extraordinary move

00:50:27.240 we've had the jerusalem post reporter we've had another reporter say directly that they saw with their

00:50:33.200 own eyes the murdered children including some decapitations uh some 40 babies now the reporter

00:50:39.820 who originally reported it after speaking with the idf soldiers is taking flack because they weren't all

00:50:45.460 technically babies some were two some may have been three years old i don't know about you but i

00:50:51.600 referred to my children as babies when they were that old as well grab the baby um it's insane that

00:50:57.280 we've now gone in some corners of the internet and even mainstream discussion there was an la times

00:51:02.160 reporter we talked about yesterday on the show who have become obsessed with this as though it's a

00:51:07.060 lie and therefore you can't believe anything about israel by the way it's not a lie babies were murdered

00:51:11.960 and even tim pool who has been a guest on this show who is extremely popular on the right and has an

00:51:18.500 extremely popular youtube show tweeted out yesterday retweeted this guy named jackson hinkle who's got

00:51:25.380 something like 580 000 followers on twitter and he's also a youtuber he retweeted him um suggesting

00:51:33.160 that these are all ai generated these photos that netanyahu and ben shapiro tweeted out of dead

00:51:38.720 burned mutilated babies that they're ai generated because they're pixelated over the baby's faces

00:51:44.240 where necessary um it's incredible that somebody would be that irresponsible and take that leap

00:51:50.940 um and actually if you look at what tim pool retweeted from this guy jackson hinkle it's as 0.96

00:51:57.780 follows holy shit the image that ben shapiro tried to pass off as a burned baby corpse was an ai

00:52:03.800 generated fake image exclamation point they said they had a photo of 40 beheaded babies but the 0.97

00:52:08.860 photo showed a single baby it was then revealed that the photo was an ai generated image but it didn't

00:52:13.340 matter because the lie about 40 beheaded babies has already been heard by enough people to justify a big

00:52:17.600 war this guy the same guy who tim was retweeting jackson hinkle had just tweeted out you're a 0.97

00:52:22.940 pathetic jew hater if you don't believe the ai generated fake image says ben shapiro we don't 0.97

00:52:28.460 have photo evidence of the 40 beheaded babies but we do have photo evidence of israel targeting 0.99

00:52:32.660 civilians in their utter leveling of gaza the u.s lied about iraq syria libya kuwait ukraine and so on

00:52:39.960 but you believe they're telling the truth about israel give me a brick this is what we're dealing with 0.64

00:52:44.140 this is very close to mainstream tim is he's not entirely mainstream but he's extremely popular

00:52:50.720 in the digital lane and he's retweeting this guy and i'm not gonna lie it's deeply disturbing to me

00:52:56.140 now today he updates it with oh huge thread the baby photo from israel appears to be real

00:53:02.780 it's crazy that this is the degree of warfare we're dealing with i i can't i can't it's illustrative

00:53:12.160 of a broader phenomenon that americans don't want to confront but must i'm familiar with this guy

00:53:18.680 this hinkle gentleman unfortunately because i spend a fair amount of time on the fringes of the internet

00:53:24.040 for the job that i'm in and his professional lane is amplifying and boosting the signal of

00:53:32.780 anti-american regimes anti-american actors uh people and institutions that are dedicated to

00:53:39.680 ending the peace and prosperity that we have enjoyed for so long that we hope to bequeath to

00:53:45.280 our children and what happened in gaza and what happened in israel in southern israel is not all

00:53:52.520 that distinct from what happens on the battlefields of ukraine the tactics that we've seen are very

00:53:58.340 familiar rape as a weapon of war summary execution of civilians ethnic cleansing and mass this is the

00:54:06.040 images that we are seeing of what the post-american world will look like our enemies are not disunited

00:54:13.240 they are not acting at cross purposes moscow accepts high-level meetings with hamas officials

00:54:19.480 because it supports their objective moscow and iran support each other's objectives in their in their regions

00:54:25.640 iran supplies moscow with weapons moscow supplies iran with diplomatic cover the objective is to embroil the

00:54:32.280 united states and conflicts that weaken it that hasten the post-american world china is supporting

00:54:37.580 all these conflicts china provides moscow with weapons components china supplies uh iran with 25 0.87

00:54:45.080 percent of its weapons it's major trading partner and it it um effectively a note negotiated a

00:54:50.900 rapprochement this year between saudi arabia and iran why in order to supplant american influence in the

00:54:58.960 region china would be very well served by a conflict that re-elevates that makes central again the

00:55:04.600 palestinian issue to the region's diplomacy it has been muted since the abraham accords if this war were

00:55:10.180 to make it once again central to how the sunni regimes navigate their environments it would suit

00:55:14.820 iran or suit china rather just fine all of these conflicts are connected and they are not observing all

00:55:23.380 these careful distinctions that americans here like to say they observe in order to justify the idea

00:55:28.660 that we can look at one over the other or we can compartmentalize them in some fashion

00:55:33.140 sunni and shiite militias sunni and shiite regimes are not at each other's throats when the enemy is

00:55:38.200 america china and iran have decades of problems going back to the to the 19th century with russia

00:55:45.400 all of that is subordinated to the need to supplant the united states all of these regimes are engaged in

00:55:52.160 one mission one goal which is to hasten the onset of a world that we do not want to see a hobbesian 1.00

00:55:59.260 world a deadly dangerous world and one in which the united states retreats behind its borders 0.72

00:56:03.760 we have to get sober and serious right now but we don't need to help that what's happening that's

00:56:08.480 fine you expect the russians to do something like this these are not russians these are very popular

00:56:13.460 online influencers doing russia's bidding doing our adversaries bidding doing obviously hamas's bidding 0.58

00:56:19.960 yeah there's sort of an edgelord vibe there right where they're just so edgy and they're so provocative

00:56:25.340 and on the fringes and willing to say the things that no other person is willing to say you know i

00:56:29.980 know person's willing to say them because it's crazy because it's absolutely insane it makes you

00:56:33.660 look like a ghoul and a lunatic but it's the sort of thing that it does attract a particular

00:56:38.520 a particular psychology that perceives themselves to be on the outside of polite society 0.78

00:56:43.600 and once you perceive yourself to be that alienated that removed from from the understood accepted

00:56:52.080 humanity to which we all are supposed to subscribe it gives you license to do a whole lot of things

00:56:57.920 it's all fun and games when you're talking into a camera for youtube but the person on the other end

00:57:02.960 of that camera maybe takes you seriously maybe doesn't think that this is all just fun and games and

00:57:07.780 we're just trying to be as provocative and fiery and really test the bounds of polite society maybe

00:57:13.420 they do something about it that's the sort of thing that these people do need to consider

00:57:17.500 if you're watching what what has gone on over the past six days or five days and you think ben

00:57:22.780 shapiro is the villain you're sick that's you've got a serious problem you need to do some serious

00:57:28.040 reassessing um i wanted to ask you on the piece of paper that i just crumpled up at the bottom 0.89

00:57:32.780 was a tweet from aoc uh my team had to resend me the tweet since i crumpled up my paper this is what

00:57:40.400 she tweeted and i want to ask you about it because i know you just dropped a piece about her on national

00:57:44.080 review she writes the level of misinformation speaking of this photos dispute the level of

00:57:49.240 misinformation in all directions at this moment is incredibly high especially on this platform

00:57:53.560 if you see a claim photo or video that triggers a strong emotional reaction take a moment to pause

00:57:59.880 and check for veracity or confirmation from multiple sources this is what she's she's basically

00:58:04.940 saying the horrific photos you've seen of the dead israelis be careful may not be true

00:58:13.140 she needs to take her own advice you were saying to ayan in the previous segment that there was this 0.57

00:58:20.080 hamas official who was saying on camera bragging about the degree to which manipulable

00:58:24.880 western sympathizers are so easy to fool and trick and gull into regurgitating her own narratives 0.95

00:58:31.380 taking credit for it they was talking about aoc she was talking precisely about her she's one of

00:58:37.580 these people who's out there saying israelis are putting civilians in harm's way no israelis are not

00:58:42.200 putting civilians in harm's way hamas is putting civilians in harm's way hamas is according to trey

00:58:47.080 yengst over at uh fox news doing all it can to barricade people into their homes and prevent them

00:58:52.780 from transiting into idf identified safety corridors to avoid being caught in the crossfire

00:58:58.880 the hamas is urging its citizens as they always do in these conflicts to surge the border and create

00:59:04.800 a human barricade against israeli invasion so that they will be the first to take fire

00:59:10.120 hamas puts weapons in hospitals and un-run schools and mosques hamas executes attacks from civilian

00:59:17.680 areas in order not to not to dissuade uh israeli retaliation but to maximize the potential for

00:59:24.260 collateral damage when they do and hamas has been tearing up civilian infrastructure destroying 0.99

00:59:29.420 greenhouses ripping up uh uh tubes and uh the sort of the water the transit networks in order to turn

00:59:36.600 them into rockets to fire on civilian territories and draw responses this is what hamas does in order to

00:59:41.840 justify its own existence its compact says that it must be dedicated to the destruction of the jewish state and 1.00

00:59:47.500 the murder of jews wherever they can be found and in order to maintain this fervor it cannot have

00:59:52.700 commerce it cannot have economic growth it cannot have development in its in its territory because

00:59:57.860 that would dissuade the public from their thirst for war they need a war-bound public eternally and

01:00:03.080 always in order to justify the regime that is why it needs to be liquidated that is why it cannot be

01:00:08.520 allowed to exist it executed an attack on civilization of which we are a part we were targets of that

01:00:14.560 attack whether american blood was shed or not and it was 25 americans were murdered or more and many

01:00:20.140 americans are being held hostage with the threat that they will be executed on camera if this terrorist

01:00:25.040 group's demands are unmet and they will go unmet this is our war too and you have to decide what side 0.90

01:00:32.500 you're on that's right you've got people like i'm sorry to cite this cretin but you've got people like this 0.58

01:00:40.060 andrew tate who i mean what long checkered history he was like he's like a fighter who thinks he

01:00:47.260 understands military warfare and the laws of it because he's spent some time in the ring tweeting

01:00:52.220 out you have to negotiate you got to talk there's no harm in talking and i'll give you this response

01:00:56.740 not to him but just on this issue from our former president george w bush who had some thoughts on

01:01:01.560 whether we could just talk it out with these mass murderers it's sat nine

01:01:06.580 in a democracy the people's voices matter and there's going to be a weariness you watch the

01:01:15.080 world's going to be okay let's negotiate you know israel's got to negotiate they're not going to 0.96

01:01:20.280 negotiate these people have explained played their cards they want to kill as many israelis as they can

01:01:26.860 and negotiating with killers is not an option for the elected government of israel and so we're just

01:01:32.860 going to have to remain steadfast but it's not going to take long for people that's gone on too

01:01:37.000 long surely there's a way to settle this through negotiations both sides are guilty my view is one

01:01:43.100 side is guilty and it's not israel but already from some corners on the right uh it's another forever

01:01:51.200 war it's another forever i mean we're literally not even a week into it it's a forever war noah

01:01:56.020 the president's right um those who are calling for israel to stand down to negotiate to not engage

01:02:06.160 in its own self-defense are calling for victory for hamas they're saying that hamas has executed

01:02:12.800 a successful terror attack it should get everything it wants and that will be get more bloodshed more

01:02:18.280 violence not sure they they know that if they do know that the people who are advocating for that sort

01:02:23.360 of uh acquiescence and engagement um they don't seem to care uh it's very disheartening to hear

01:02:30.180 that pusillanimous cowardice from some quarters but i don't think it is in good faith for most of

01:02:38.720 these individuals uh i don't think that they have israel's best interests in heart i don't think 0.53

01:02:43.880 they cherish and covet the american geopolitical order uh that has given us the kind of peace and

01:02:49.680 prosperity that no other human beings in the history of humanity have known to the degree that

01:02:54.500 we know it for so long i don't think they're grateful for the world that they were bequeathed

01:02:59.280 by their grandparents and parents who sacrificed everything to to give it to them i don't think

01:03:04.380 they care i think they're selfish i think they're um narcissistic self-obsessed and in some extreme 0.69

01:03:11.060 cases sociopathic i don't think this is an ideology that we can negotiate with i don't think those who

01:03:16.660 subscribe to it and those who sympathize with it are uh good faith actors i think they need to be

01:03:21.720 defeated defeated in the realm of ideas and defeated on the battlefield where they are militant

01:03:26.660 the sitting president gave an interview to 60 minutes which i assume will air on sunday

01:03:33.540 and um commented on the american hostages we don't yet have a number on i think the latest number of

01:03:39.780 americans killed was 22 or 25 forgive me um the number of hostages is 27 now has not yet been released

01:03:48.120 but there are some i'll get to one of the moms of one of them who's speaking out but the president 0.60

01:03:53.220 sat down with 60 and uh had this message i think they have to know that the president of the united

01:03:59.780 states of america cares deeply about what's happening deeply we have to communicate to the world this is

01:04:06.480 critical this is not even human behavior it's it's pure barbarism and we're going to do everything

01:04:12.920 on our power to get them home if we can find them that's his message and meantime noah just breaking

01:04:19.060 israeli troops including infantry and armored forces have carried out local raids now in the gaza strip

01:04:25.060 said the israeli defense forces on friday they are searching for the hostages uh the israeli hostages

01:04:31.400 the american hostages whatever other hostages are there and i'll just leave you with this

01:04:36.260 there was a new york times piece by the mother of one american hostage hirsch goldberg poland

01:04:44.380 uh u.s citizen born in california was at the music festival and this is the audience may be familiar

01:04:51.400 with his story he sent his parents two short messages on saturday morning as the attack began the

01:04:57.320 first one said i love you the second one only i'm sorry and they haven't heard from him since this is

01:05:02.680 one of our guys this is an american citizen um she wrote a longer piece my god it's awful noah

01:05:09.540 she writes hirsch our oldest child and only son he was camping with his best friend at an outdoor

01:05:16.380 music festival near israel's border with gaza when hamas terrace began firing we later found out hirsch

01:05:21.700 and his friends managed to escape by car but were forced to stop and take cover in a roadside bomb

01:05:26.120 shelter terrorists then attacked the shelter blowing off hirsch's arm from the elbow down by

01:05:31.940 machine gun fire or a grenade or both according to witnesses he was then ordered into a pickup truck

01:05:37.960 i want things to go back to how they were before saturday morning before i saw hirsch's text messages

01:05:44.220 that alerted me he was in grave danger i love you and i'm sorry but here we are stuck in the awful

01:05:51.040 present if he is still alive how much longer can he survive his wounds are grievous i hope somewhere

01:05:58.580 someone somewhere is being kind to him caring for him attending to him every single person in gaza has

01:06:07.580 a mother or had a mother at some point and i would say this then as a mother to other mothers if you see

01:06:14.300 hirsch please help him i think about it a lot i really think i would help your son if he was in

01:06:21.420 front of me injured near me it's too awful to imagine and i'm sure we've got our own navy seals

01:06:29.140 right next to these idf guys going in there trying to get our guys back but there is the matter of

01:06:34.180 american lives involved in this too and the matter of how on earth do they save these 150 hostages

01:06:41.180 in light of how hamas is using them i i don't even know how to respond to that it is

01:06:48.480 absolutely gut-wrenching um i don't know either megan i don't suspect there are a lot of very good

01:06:57.800 options i think hamas has demonstrated uh insofar as it's possible to convince people who are willing

01:07:04.760 to be convinced that they want to kill these people and they want to make maximize the amount

01:07:10.960 of pain that we experience and it's not about demands it is about demonstrating the absolute

01:07:16.280 inhumanity of this organization as a means of deterring us as a means of scaring us it's pretty

01:07:22.160 effective um in 2014 the united states had gotten out of iraq two three years prior and they really

01:07:30.980 supported that they wanted to wash their hands of the middle east and then the islamic state poured 0.97

01:07:35.880 across iraq's borders and captured two americans james foley wright and stephen sotloff and beheaded

01:07:41.740 them on camera and overnight american opinion turned on a dime and said we need to go back in

01:07:49.380 the impetus for going back in was the siege of the yezidi population and that was the justification 1.00

01:07:56.500 that barack obama used to justify the reinvasion of iraq at the iraqi government's request but it

01:08:02.780 was going to happen whether that happened or not the american people wanted revenge

01:08:06.720 and it was justified and righteous and i wonder how americans will react 10 years later a new world

01:08:14.720 a different world but nevertheless one that still includes the united states that is proud of its

01:08:20.600 country that rejects the notion that it has to sit back and take it from these animals and if that

01:08:27.400 happens what will we do and how will we react and will we be contained i don't think we can be nor

01:08:35.600 should we be and you can expect all the usual suspects will come out and say well we have to

01:08:39.740 observe restraint and maybe they have a point look at our history we're not perfect and those people

01:08:47.280 will think that they have the moral high ground and act like it but it is barbarism it is a soft

01:08:53.440 spoken barbarity and it needs to be treated with the contempt that it is that it deserves i pray for

01:09:01.520 these captives i hope we can find them i wish i had more hope for their fates than i do but we also

01:09:07.540 need to be thinking about the contingencies of what happens if and when i think they do what they want

01:09:12.040 to do and how far we plan to go to avenge them it's too awful to imagine i mean every parent out there

01:09:21.700 is thinking about that line i hope someone somewhere is being kind to him caring for him attending to him

01:09:28.880 there are real human victims involved in this behavior they should not be forgotten no all the

01:09:35.940 best to you you and your family thanks for coming on thank you megan we'll be right back

01:09:40.360 welcome back to the megan kelly show now we turn to an important issue on the transgender madness 1.00

01:09:48.780 that is gripping our nation with an expert on the topic jennifer billick is an artist activist and

01:09:54.540 investigative reporter who is dedicated to following the money behind this whole movement my god she's 0.96

01:09:59.960 done amazing work her detailed reporting reveals that major financial players in america are influencing

01:10:06.600 almost every aspect of life to normalize this radical agenda not just here in america actually

01:10:13.860 but across the globe the globe her blog is called the 11th hour jennifer thank you so much for being

01:10:19.660 here my apologies it's shorter than i would have liked it but as you know this the news out of the

01:10:24.760 middle east is just so devastating today but i i'm going to have you on again and we have a longer

01:10:29.460 conversation i've been dying to talk to you thank you so much i'm really really grateful to be here

01:10:35.700 i mean you you are a hero to me and to many others for actually doing the digging on this topic

01:10:42.000 that needed to be done it's not just i mean it's you you understand this movement what's behind it

01:10:47.300 better than anybody you also understand why it's become so financially lucrative and how it's being

01:10:51.060 funded so we're going to go there after we start a little bit on your background so how did you how did

01:10:56.800 you come to the issue of this transgender craze and you know what what made you interested in that 0.99

01:11:02.300 finances behind it um well i was in activist circles since occupy wall street uh life campaign

01:11:12.760 for women's rights and the uh the health of the environment uh since i'm in my 20s um but around the

01:11:20.060 time of occupy wall street uh there was a very very robust uh igniting of activism you know political

01:11:28.480 activism and that lasted for quite a while um but within this community uh there was this sort of

01:11:37.440 second mccarthyism developing where you couldn't talk about uh this particular issue and this particular

01:11:44.960 issue what most people call transgenderism i call the synthetic sex industry because i have 0.92

01:11:51.040 um researched the money behind this um and it is um a growth industry a growth business in um disembodiment

01:12:00.980 from sex reality and these new identities that are forming under the lgbt banner uh once you know a real 0.65

01:12:12.200 civil rights movement is now uh corporatized and it's been infiltrated it was infiltrated by the

01:12:19.840 medical industrial complex during the aids crisis um and they never left uh well the lgbt at this point

01:12:28.100 is um worth 3.17 billion dollars as a marketing constituency so that's an awful lot of uh marketing

01:12:36.060 and capital power um you know to cross market with other corporations so it's like one of the ways

01:12:42.180 that they get people on board with this ideology is to um you know basically you support our

01:12:48.960 community and our constituency our marketing base will support your business um but yeah basically

01:12:58.660 this is really has nothing to do with identity um corporations international finance houses

01:13:05.320 international law firms um silicon valley the medical industrial complex don't really care 0.93

01:13:12.980 about the identity issues of a miniscule part of the population um it's absolutely a ridiculous

01:13:20.080 uh concept to think so they care about money they care about money and they care about power this

01:13:27.380 makes me think of remember the scene in devil wears prada where um the anna wintour character played by

01:13:32.960 meryl streep looks at uh the young sort of ingenue uh played by it was uh i can't remember and hathaway

01:13:40.520 and she's like she's like do you really think you chose that sweater just out of your own tastes

01:13:45.200 and desires you chose that sweater and that's really surreal like green whatever it was because this team

01:13:51.060 of people people in here years ago decided you were going to like that color one year it was better

01:13:55.560 than the way i just said it but you're you're kind of saying it's the same thing absolutely i mean and

01:14:02.280 you know i mean if you just look at the figures i mean market research uh is an analysis uh you know

01:14:08.800 they do market analysis firm and they project the um synthetic sex surgeries will be in the billions by

01:14:17.640 2026 now there's another marketing research analyst firm that has projected the figure at 30.5 billion by

01:14:27.900 2028 they're both accredited by the better business bureau so who has the right statistics i don't know

01:14:35.980 but what we do know is that these uh the increase and the profiting off of these surgeries are being

01:14:42.380 driven by um government policies uh positive policies um and promotion that these sex surgeries

01:14:53.220 are available um yeah and people knowing about them and also the uh the clinics coming up to serve this

01:15:01.000 uh people that want to disown their sex for whatever reasons and there's many reasons many people would

01:15:06.320 choose that uh they might have had a trauma in their lives um you know leading to dysphoria about their

01:15:13.580 their sex reality um you know they might be homosexual and not want to deal with the homophobia in society

01:15:22.300 um you know uh there are adults men who have a fetish of autogynophilia its colloquial name is

01:15:30.760 transsexualism um and this really is the root of this issue um it sort of had a rebranding to

01:15:39.520 transgenderism because transsexual surgeries would be a very difficult sell to a young population

01:15:46.460 and this is really being targeted to um the youth because what they're doing under this banner of

01:15:55.800 gender identity um i think we really should throw out the word gender altogether and just use sex

01:16:02.120 uh because gender is really confusing can you expand on that because this confuses me too i mean this

01:16:07.640 confuses me because even as somebody who's been covering this more and more i've heard others

01:16:12.160 well some people say gender is just this argument well because let me just set it up because years ago i

01:16:17.420 had deborah so on the podcast who i love and she was she's uh got a phd in sexual fetishes and so on 0.99

01:16:23.760 and she was saying you know gender is the way you sort of express your your gender identity is the way

01:16:29.200 you express what you feel is your gender which may or may not be um the same as your sexual identity as

01:16:37.440 as you know your your sex your biological sex and i can see what i can see that point that some people

01:16:43.760 may feel more flamboyant and they may choose clothes like for a male that are just a little bit more

01:16:51.520 girly you know or vice versa why why do we say that there is no sort of gender identity why why is it 0.71

01:16:59.220 all about biological sex in your view um because if you look about what's happening in a culture i mean

01:17:05.900 if you listen to what everybody's saying you know gender identity there's a whole lot of stuff going on

01:17:11.200 underneath that umbrella right gender identity umbrella or transgender umbrella you have men with the

01:17:16.740 the uh the uh fetish of autogynephilia you have people with disorders of sexual development

01:17:23.220 intersex conditions you have kids that are uh rebelling against sexual stereotypes um you have

01:17:30.260 other young people embracing those sexual stereotypes and wanting the opposite sexual stereotypes um you have

01:17:37.300 feminine men uh appropriating the uh the word for feminine men in other cultures

01:17:43.560 uh and all of these things are supposed to be meaning transgenderism or gender identity so what

01:17:49.640 does any of that mean you know i mean words are supposed to communicate uh clarity to bring clarity

01:17:55.600 and communication but this word doesn't really do that um it obscures what's really happening which is

01:18:01.060 the deconstruction of sex uh linguistically socially medically uh legally um and just about every other way

01:18:11.040 um young people are actually having their healthy sex um medically assaulted for this ideology

01:18:19.360 um and you know we as a species are far more profitable as um as parts our sex reality we are are we are holy

01:18:30.880 sex we are whole beings our sex isn't separate from our our whole beingness um but to to create a division

01:18:38.320 like that the demarcation line to disappear that demarcation line between men and women deconstructs

01:18:44.640 our sexual dimorphism as a species male and female just so now we're being you're saying this term gender

01:18:50.920 identity is being used to take away the realities of biological what's happening exactly that's uh this is 0.99

01:18:59.760 why yeah yeah well we're you know i mean we're being uh we're being divided into penises vaginas breasts 1.00

01:19:07.440 uh ovaries uh ovaries wombs um gametes you know we're all being you know divided into parts and what 0.98

01:19:17.280 this is really is a is a transhumanist paradigm um whereas transhumanism and you know silicon valley

01:19:24.960 has been selling us transhumanism uh since the early 2000s and you know ai is coming uh hard and heavy at us

01:19:34.320 uh today uh today and um transhumanism projects that we will eventually become like sort of another

01:19:41.440 species all together um and this whole apparatus gender identity apparatus is really driving that

01:19:50.000 narrative um of sort of lifting yourself out of your your humanity and creating uh another species

01:19:58.240 and people they they uh we're calling people transgender but we're also setting up a sort of um

01:20:06.480 it's a corporate construct it's not real nobody transitions their sex so far no matter how much

01:20:12.240 surgery they have no matter how many drugs they take um and we're we're entering a phase where uh

01:20:20.400 uh you know genetic engineering and reproductive technologies are are poised really to um

01:20:29.200 you soup you serve the integrity of our of our wholeness um this is this is why i i don't use that

01:20:36.880 term i try to avoid the term transgender altogether i'll say it's a man posing as a woman it's a woman

01:20:42.320 posing as a man that's that's more clear and actually i think captures what's actually having somebody

01:20:47.040 pretending to be a member of the opposite sex that's really what's going on but wait let me 0.92

01:20:51.440 shift this really originated with money oh of course it was all male it wasn't a woman's thing at all

01:20:57.840 until you point out these other actors the medical industrial complex got involved and started

01:21:02.560 convincing 16 year old girls that they somehow weren't girls but i didn't realize until reading your

01:21:08.960 stuff that the there's a point like there are actually really well-funded trans people whose last

01:21:15.680 names you're going to know who have been behind this who are actively pushing it and not surprisingly

01:21:21.760 honestly it's just like rachel levine within the hhs department i really think that rachel levine is a 0.98

01:21:28.160 man posing as a woman and he wants your kid to do what he did he wants to feel validated by you and your

01:21:34.480 kid he doesn't care about the health consequences to your child and that's the same of this so-called

01:21:39.920 jennifer pritzker who is really not a jennifer take me to the pritzkers and their role in all of this

01:21:49.520 oh the pritzkers wow i mean i could just talk days upon days upon the pritzkers um uh the pritzkers are um

01:21:57.920 a very large family in america that made their uh bank on the hyatt hotel industry but have since um

01:22:05.600 gotten invested in the medical industrial complex and there's very many of them and they're worth like

01:22:10.320 29 billion and they've had a huge huge influence on driving this ideology through the culture

01:22:18.720 an ideology of disowning uh your sex reality um as progressive and cool and edgy for the youth

01:22:26.320 um they fund uh multiple um organizations throughout the culture the the military they fund

01:22:36.240 massive millions and millions and millions of dollars to uh cash strapped universities um in america

01:22:43.120 in canada in israel uh jennifer pritzker is a man uh who you already noted that in his 60s he uh decided

01:22:51.680 you know he was he was a woman suddenly poof um and he uh you know he made an announcement to his uh

01:23:00.080 colleagues that he was going to be a woman now he's going to present himself as a woman and he felt

01:23:04.960 like a woman as if a man could know what a woman feels like uh not convincingly

01:23:12.320 and he has this organization called the 20 foundation which is a philanthropic organization and he funds

01:23:18.320 um all the big kahunas of the uh the gender who are driving the gender industry like w path 1.00

01:23:25.520 um and the w path also you know here's another organization that are working to promote this

01:23:32.480 idea that people can be born in wrong bodies and the uh managing director over there uh sue o sullivan 0.75

01:23:40.160 with her sister co-founded veritas organization which is a medical um uh management company they do

01:23:47.360 uh forums and everything for you know everything medical including uh pharmaceutical industry

01:23:53.440 uh corporations that uh promote these and make these puberty blockers for for children

01:24:00.480 um and uh the uh business arm of 20 foundation um 20 enterprises partners with uh their as an asset

01:24:11.520 management company and they uh uh manage the assets of medical tech uh companies um yeah so and then

01:24:23.040 you have john striker who founded arkus foundation which is probably the most significant um lgbt organization

01:24:31.120 in the world here in america okay keep going arkus yes and um he's aired to a 19.3 billion

01:24:41.040 dollar medical corporation and he comes out of finance comes out of um asset management also

01:24:50.640 and um he funds his lgbt ngo through his medical corporation now it's medical supplies but they

01:24:58.720 also just got into the uh facial feminization surgery market oh lord um when i started writing

01:25:05.280 about them in 2018 they were like 13.5 billion was their you know uh annual revenue that's what they

01:25:11.760 were worth right we're talking billions of dollars here i mean the medical industrial compact complex

01:25:16.720 needs to be fed it's a beast it's like 13 trillion dollars huge the global medical industry it's like

01:25:22.480 one of the largest industries ever and it needs to be fed and it's feeding on these transgender surgeries 1.00

01:25:31.760 you know and uh medical manipulations um and people are getting caught up in this because of the

01:25:38.080 propaganda that's coming from the very same people that are uh going to be profiting from it

01:25:44.560 um and these this is moving into uh transhumanist surgeries uh like you could just look at elon musk

01:25:52.240 just came out with the neural link and it was just approved for implanting in humans

01:25:57.360 um and um the technological reproduction market is so advanced now um you know the things that

01:26:07.680 they're able to do with uh with genes and and dna manipulation and uh creating uh embryos from from

01:26:17.200 skin cells that you can grow in a dish um you know and the whole surrogacy market plays into this

01:26:24.640 like out of body wombs actual and out of body wombs and in body wombs they they're researching how

01:26:30.560 to implant wombs into men not only how to implant them into men in order for a male to give birth and 0.85

01:26:40.000 have that experience but to also leave this womb in the man so that he can menstruate and have that 0.98

01:26:48.960 experience as well i mean it's absolutely bonkers you know the research that they're doing but people

01:26:55.360 don't really connect this to the to the uh you know to what's going on here the gender industry 0.99

01:27:01.840 because they think it's a human rights movement because this is what's been promoted to them

01:27:06.080 i mean the the propaganda for this has been relentless since like 2014 when laverne cox showed

01:27:12.720 up on the cover of uh mark benioff's time magazine mark benioff is you know founder of salesforce computing

01:27:20.320 cloud uh cloud computing excuse me and um he's had myriad people on there who attempt to disown their

01:27:27.520 sex and promote that as a positive um you know lifestyle for humanity um he also has a uh invest in

01:27:38.640 gender clinics and also in medical reproduction uh technological you know reproduction as does jeff 0.99

01:27:47.920 bezos who has uh has invested 166 million dollars in a clinic in brooklyn that does these surgeries

01:27:56.960 on people's healthy reproductive organs and he also has a uh a um fertility platform on amazon

01:28:07.040 um his ex-wife um what's her name now mckenzie well let's just call her his ex-wife mckenzie 0.96

01:28:17.600 phillips right yeah is it mckenzie phillips anyway let's just call it bezos i don't know is mckenzie

01:28:24.560 phillips the girl from that tv show we used to watch mckenzie scott yeah mckenzie scott there you go 0.96

01:28:31.920 thank you i knew you'd find it um you know she's giving millions and millions and millions of dollars

01:28:38.400 to the lgbt which is really not you know it's not the lgb of yore at all we have no grass really just

01:28:46.960 the t activists it's really now just really just the t and the q and the amount of promotion of this

01:28:54.560 and the fact that you can't critique it i mean goes a long way to tell you that you know this is

01:29:01.360 uh you know you're messing with profits that's why they don't want you to talk about this so let me

01:29:06.320 add to this so just today it's not just uh the amount of profit right but in the way they want

01:29:10.960 you to talk about it but just today there was news that the biden administration is now mandating

01:29:16.400 trying to mandate that it that all employers refer to their trans employees by their preferred

01:29:24.240 pronouns that it will yeah by definition constitute workplace harassment if you don't go along if

01:29:31.280 employees who are co-employees with a trans person don't say though now this is going mark my word this

01:29:38.960 is going to be struck down this is unconstitutional the government cannot mandate speech this isn't canada

01:29:45.280 sorry joe biden it's still the united states of america i can't wait until alliance defending

01:29:50.960 freedom gets its hand on its hands on this it's going away it's going away but he's trying and making

01:29:57.920 us say the pronouns making us say the names making us speak the way they want us to speak and not say

01:30:04.320 the things they don't want us to say is all part of it well biden is just really carrying out the um

01:30:10.960 the agenda of uh obama who was really bought and paid for by the pritzker family i mean penny pritzker

01:30:17.760 who's the cousin of jennifer pritzker um really put him in the white house he was really you know

01:30:23.840 it was he was nobody really until you know she found him and dusted him off and really introduced

01:30:30.080 him to all the wealthy funders that got him into the white house and then he became our trans president

01:30:35.440 you know putting through all these policies and and uh you know bills to support synthetic sex

01:30:42.480 identities what is jennifer pritzker's relation to jb pritzker the governor of illinois oh that's his um

01:30:50.880 that's his cousin jb is his cousin and jb just passed a um a bill in uh chicago illinois uh i think

01:31:02.160 it was last year it was past 2022 i think um for grade schools and well all schools there um to

01:31:13.200 to bring in this health education that um teaches transgenderism or gender ideology or synthetic sex

01:31:22.720 identities as as a choice for you and your life for children um and it was brought in it was sort of a

01:31:31.200 test case it's like if you if parents go along with this you have to have all of the health

01:31:36.080 education that we're promoting and if you don't want if you don't want it then you can't have any

01:31:42.160 health education at all now they decided they didn't want it which was you know thank god you

01:31:48.560 know but this is being pushed at every single angle of society um and there almost seems like there's

01:31:56.240 no way out because all the corporations are on board you know the esg the environmental social

01:32:01.600 governing um yep uh issue you know those uh those are and diversity equity inclusion um those are

01:32:11.200 policies pushed down from the top of society like blackrock who also have an investment in the in the

01:32:17.280 gender industry and the synthetic sex industry like why you know how many trillions of dollars in assets 0.99

01:32:23.840 and they care about the the identity issues of a minuscule part of the population i don't think so

01:32:30.880 they want to make money but these you know children yes this is being targeted to the youth because

01:32:38.240 they want the youth to dissociate from biology from their biological reality this is the transhumanist paradigm 0.71

01:32:46.160 you know uh getting them to think of themselves not as whole integral human beings but as parts for

01:32:55.040 the market that you can sort of like they're lego people you know we're we're indoctrinating children

01:33:02.080 to think that they're lego people that you because and this is because reproduction is poised to be usurped

01:33:10.240 by the technology industry so then you don't really need male and female and you don't need um

01:33:17.520 sexuality for bonding for intimacy it's really just a sort of a kink fest you know what i mean

01:33:23.920 yeah we're all these weird automatons just walking around genderless organless nothing special about us 0.88

01:33:31.680 whatsoever we we can grow babies in the womb we can have our belly buttons chopped out we can have our 1.00

01:33:40.240 genitals chopped out we can just look like these cyborgs and i guess this is what's going to make 0.97

01:33:46.800 us happy and better this is i mean like no one cares is really the thing the pritzkers don't give 0.99

01:33:52.080 a damn about happiness and black rock doesn't care about happiness they just care about money and power 0.88

01:33:58.960 this is power this is power they think they're building god with technology 0.99

01:34:06.080 at a time when you know um religion is really absent from a lot of people's lives

01:34:13.520 and becoming more absent this is sort of filling a vacuum for people this this this technology um and

01:34:20.240 this belief in in all-powerful technology that will take us out of our our actual humanity and um

01:34:29.360 you know maybe make gods out of all of us well you know what it is jennifer i mean it's like i've 0.99

01:34:34.320 started to realize i am a pretty happy person i'm not like you know an idiot running around skipping 0.71

01:34:43.040 and throwing daisies at people but i am in news so i'm somewhat cynical but um i think these people 0.75

01:34:50.080 like there are a lot of deeply unhappy people out there and they would love to escape to another body

01:34:55.360 they would love to escape to another self and then to see everyone around them escape to another

01:35:00.080 self so that everybody's level of happiness goes down there there actually are people who think like

01:35:04.160 that see that as a quote solution to their problem and we're allowing ourselves to be influenced by these

01:35:10.720 people let me back up with you one one step because you wrote something that i thought was really

01:35:15.440 interesting you've said that the population the true population of transgender individuals

01:35:21.280 is zero so i want to talk to you about this because i i was always told by people i trusted and i was

01:35:28.480 read that there there is a very very very small subset of the population that has genuine gender dysphoria

01:35:37.120 basically from birth you know they know by the time they're three years old i don't feel like i'm in

01:35:42.960 the right body i really feel like i'm a member of the opposite sex and those people are not people who

01:35:48.320 at age 16 suddenly say yeah i'm trans when really they're just socially awkward there are people who

01:35:53.760 their earliest memories are a feeling i'm in the wrong body and we've accepted those people as genuinely

01:36:00.720 gender dysphoric they say they're transgender and then they go and they have all the operations so

01:36:05.920 what explain that claim that there there really are no that the transgender population is zero

01:36:14.720 well you know i don't doubt that some people you know from a young age have

01:36:23.600 complicated or even negative feelings about their sex body um there's a condition called identity body

01:36:32.960 identity integrity disorder where people feel like one of their limbs does not belong to them it's

01:36:39.280 usually a lower extremity um like a leg or a foot um and they feel so insistent on this that they've

01:36:48.400 actually taken it upon themselves to try and cut it off um so far we haven't made a habit of cutting off

01:36:55.280 limbs of these people right um and we haven't um celebrated this as an identity we don't have any

01:37:05.920 modeling agencies for them we don't have any makeup lines for them we don't put them on the cover of

01:37:10.720 magazines or put them in tv shows um as positive lifestyle representation um because it's considered a

01:37:19.680 disorder disorder but disordered thinking now and in terms of children that have this uh you know this

01:37:28.080 sense that you know uh they don't like their bodies um this is a very very minuscule part of the population

01:37:38.800 um and it's it's being used as is intersex conditions um and other issues uh to further along this

01:37:48.480 narrative that sex is a spectrum you know and um you know it's a horrible thing that children are 0.93

01:37:58.640 being used in this way but um they have to they have to have the transgender child in order to substantiate

01:38:10.400 the uh transsexual male and his fixation on owning womanhood because you can't sell that to the public 1.00

01:38:20.560 as a positive um so you have to have the transgender child and the transgender child is a legal construct

01:38:29.040 as is the transgender adult it's a legal construct um in 2000

01:38:35.680 i don't even remember the year but you know in the span of a few years in mid 2000s

01:38:45.920 you had uh george soros open society foundation made a legal guide for uh creating basically manifesting

01:38:55.760 the transgender child and arcus foundation also funded um another um guide for sort of bringing legal

01:39:04.720 structure to this uh to children um and who was who was the other one uh denton's law firm um

01:39:15.760 helped create and which is like one of the largest law firms in the world uh international law firms in

01:39:21.600 the world um did pro bono work to create legal structure for transgender children

01:39:26.800 um if if the medical industrial complex you know 50 years ago had heard about children you know wanting

01:39:35.680 to uh disown their sex i'm sure that they would have been manipulating them a whole lot sooner 0.99

01:39:41.680 uh this is this is a legal construct it's not real so transgenderism is just not real it doesn't mean

01:39:49.840 anything it's an umbrella term that brings in all of these different issues and it's incoherent which is why

01:39:55.920 they don't want anybody to talk about it because if you start talking about it it just breaks apart

01:40:01.120 and so their response to well let's discuss this is no debate no debate our reality is not up for debate

01:40:07.280 you know but in fact your reality is not reality at all reality is the natural world that's that's

01:40:13.280 about as real as you can get you know what goes up expand on what you said about uh this is part of

01:40:19.120 like this is rooted in men's desire to own womanhood women well transvestic fetishism i mean it started

01:40:25.920 out as um men that wanted to dress as women for a sexual compulsion um it wasn't very popular and it

01:40:34.880 wasn't accepted in society certainly they had to do this in private and so they did and they made groups

01:40:41.920 groups and eventually one of these groups um started uh in the uk and this man named martin rothblatt

01:40:53.200 joined he's an american entrepreneur lawyer who's owned a um a pharmaceutical corporation he's written

01:41:02.400 about the on-ramp of transgenderism to transhumanism he's written about the future of technological uh

01:41:09.760 usurpation of um uh human reproduction you know taking it to the tech sector he's made a robot of

01:41:18.800 his wife and thinks he's instilling her consciousness in in the robot um and he got together with these 0.52

01:41:26.240 other transvestic and transvestite uh transvestic and transsexual lawyers in the uk um and created

01:41:35.280 legal structure to make the transgender person the transsexual person to give it legal weight

01:41:42.720 um now these are just people that want to disown their sex you know for whatever reasons they want

01:41:49.280 i mean this group wanted to disown it for because they have this compulsion and this compulsion fetishes

01:41:56.080 usually escalate they don't usually stay in one spot you know i have this fetish and this is the

01:42:00.960 fetish that's how it usually escalates and this industry is also this transsexual industry um has 0.97

01:42:07.840 also been driven by the porn industry because porn objectifies women sexually and the industry of porn 0.92

01:42:16.640 brought you know women's sexual objectification into the home and this happened at a time when the first 0.94

01:42:25.360 man had the first transsexual surgery in the united states i don't know if he had the surgery here but

01:42:31.760 he was american and he did i think he had it somewhere else he came back um christine jordanson and he was

01:42:37.680 celebrated you know in the culture for this and so these uh two incidents happened within a year of each

01:42:44.160 other the uh you know this surgery the first surgery in america to be like popularized and then

01:42:51.200 this the industry of the porn industry you know magazines being delivered right to your home so

01:42:56.400 you don't have to go to some seedy little you know back room in a store uh you know to watch porn

01:43:03.360 to see porn right you could just invite it into your home now this becomes uh a billion billion dollar

01:43:10.800 industry and the porn needs to escalate in order for men to continue to be aroused by it so the old porn

01:43:20.080 you know 1970s porn gets pushed down into the culture and you know like megan the stallion you

01:43:27.760 know you can watch her ride around and do sexual antics and stuff on it on a music stage so that's 1.00

01:43:34.080 like you know that's the old point it's pushed down to the culture and now you know the actual porn is

01:43:41.280 just becomes more and more degrading and debasing and humiliating for women and young boys can now watch 0.98

01:43:47.680 this on the flip of a phone just type in porn and what comes up is horribly you know degrading images 0.97

01:43:54.480 of women being penetrated into multiple uh orifices and being called vile vile names um yeah and so

01:44:03.200 this this uh trajectory of both of these things and the culture is just escalating and escalating

01:44:10.160 and so men seeking to own womanhood this fetish is also escalating and with the advancement of

01:44:16.320 medical technologies to make more and more realistic uh synthetic simulacrums of women um 0.72

01:44:26.320 they haven't been able to perfect you know the the simulation of male characteristics um oh my god

01:44:34.240 just take a look at pritzker guy that was good lord you're perfecting it keep working on it jennifer

01:44:42.080 so um yeah so this this is really a technological medical advancement of um of a fetish into an

01:44:55.200 industry of body dissociation and when you take it to its zenith to transhumanism it's actually owning

01:45:04.000 women's reproductive capacities through technology through medical technology

01:45:08.480 oh my god so until women are erased and this is and this is why the boundary between males and 0.99

01:45:15.440 and you know women are being assimilated into males you know in the culture now like by the erase 0.78

01:45:21.520 racing of their of their uh safe spaces you know they don't want any um

01:45:30.560 um you know demarcation line between males and females they you know the whole sports issue

01:45:40.480 is just i mean it's complete and total insanity on its face but um

01:45:49.760 it it it um it it's it's almost like planting a flag after you've colonized the territory

01:45:56.320 like they're colonizing your biology you know yeah your rights your rights but you know they're

01:46:02.320 colonizing your biology this is what's happening here you know your rights are just like planting the

01:46:08.160 flag you know that's like that comes later so who's i mean we we talked about the pritzkers 0.68

01:46:15.680 we talked about john striker who are the other big pushers of this like the big financiers

01:46:23.760 oh tim gill is another one tim gill is another one he has he's very very quiet tim gill um on this front

01:46:31.520 um he's uh he has the second most largest probably most powerful uh lgbt organization in um in the world

01:46:41.280 world um and uh it's called the guild foundation and he uh he works hand in hand with john striker

01:46:49.360 to do the same thing he's a philanthropist he's a billionaire he's poured billions of you know his

01:46:54.480 own money into this issue um first it was gay marriage they turned the the whole state of the 0.99

01:47:00.560 and i say they because striker's sister john striker's sister pat striker worked with um

01:47:07.040 um tim gill in colorado to turn the state from red to blue now i actually did um another interview

01:47:18.320 and i i made an error in that i said that they turned into a red state but it's a blue state now

01:47:23.200 it's democratic it's blue now and they did this with piles and piles of money and threat

01:47:30.800 um and so they are also and he comes out of quark press so he comes out of technology

01:47:35.760 you know so this is like this is you know silicon valley in bed with the medical industrial complex

01:47:44.480 and it's fused and fueled by you know the finance you know big finance black rock and uh ernst and

01:47:51.840 young and other you know uh well how asset management corporations how do we have total surrender by

01:47:59.840 the american psychological association the american psychiatric association the american

01:48:05.600 academy of pediatricians how did this how did all these people get them to just completely bend the knee

01:48:14.320 well threat basically financial threat if you do not go along with this ideology you're going to be

01:48:23.600 ostracized you're going to be socially ostracized uh you might you might lose your job

01:48:28.640 and people with families you know don't want to rock the boat um and further um it's just been a

01:48:41.120 constant indoctrination we are so tied to our technology already i mean the idea of transhumanism is not

01:48:49.920 really that far from what we're living now we've been so dissociated from our natural environment and

01:48:56.480 to spend so much time on technologies um with technologies we probably touch machines more

01:49:02.560 than we touch the people in our lives um and we're always on here and where this this information has

01:49:08.960 been coming over the same tech that's driving it you know that's creating it you know that it's creating

01:49:14.800 the surgeries they're there it's the same tech where this information is being indoctrinated into the

01:49:20.240 public it's more like an indoctrination um you know um process it's more like indoctrination than it is

01:49:29.440 about convincing people because it's happening so much and it's tied to the lgb civil rights movement

01:49:37.680 which has already been um accepted mostly accepted in western cultures advanced western cultures

01:49:44.000 you know gay people can you know have jobs and live in the society and be happy and comfortable

01:49:51.280 and you know um so this is tied to this human rights movement and so nobody's really thinking

01:49:58.320 about it because this is the information that they get and the other sources of information are

01:50:03.120 virtually cut off censored so they're not getting that information they only get the drumbeat trans rights 0.57

01:50:10.000 or human rights trans rights and human rights trans rights and human rights right and especially young

01:50:15.360 people you know they're they're impressionable they're young they're full of you know youthful

01:50:22.720 zeal and rebellion and they're looking for themselves they're looking to find themselves and um

01:50:31.040 you know you have mostly two-parent households where both parents are out of the house

01:50:35.840 you know for for large periods of time kids are stuck in nursery schools or you know pre-k schools

01:50:43.280 and they're not getting the attention and they're also on their tech you know i've seen babies in the

01:50:48.720 store you know the mother gives them a phone or a tablet you know to keep them quiet and young kids

01:50:55.120 they're on their games and they're on their technologies now and the parents um even when they get together

01:51:00.960 the kids you know your friend comes over to your house they're like they're all on their tech

01:51:05.360 right and your parents doesn't really know like what are the conversations you're having on there

01:51:10.320 it's private whereas you used to have your kids used to have conversations with each other

01:51:15.280 out in the open and you could you know you could overhear them even you weren't like really listening

01:51:19.600 to them so you had a sense of like well how are their minds developing what were they watching what

01:51:23.840 was influencing them but now it's like it's a total you know it's a total freak fest because there's all

01:51:30.000 these influencers on their social media especially like on tick tock and tick tock is platformed with

01:51:36.960 um is um melded with planned parenthood which is like the largest uh dispenser of puberty blockers

01:51:44.080 in the united states can i ask you a question they're all partnered up i've been wrestling with this um

01:51:52.320 understanding that a lot of the youth who get attracted to this

01:51:54.720 they're not really having any genuine gender dysphoria they're just looking for some way to

01:52:01.040 rebel or express themselves or feel like they're special or they belong but still given that it's 0.96

01:52:07.920 become a social contagion certainly for girls and i think for boys too at this point yes would would

01:52:14.160 you what would you say to parents out there if a child comes home you know 14 15 years old saying

01:52:20.800 oh this is my new best friend you know jenna but it's really john and you know it was john six months

01:52:29.920 ago like without being disparaging to any one individual i have to say i'd have qualms and i

01:52:38.720 like i just don't know how healthy it would be at this point given this social contagious contagion

01:52:43.760 factor to have your kids spending a bunch of time and i i know it sounds cruel like don't hang out with

01:52:49.520 a transgender person but i see this person as very confused i really wouldn't want my kid hanging 0.99

01:52:53.520 around with a cutter either you know like that's that person's having some serious mental struggles

01:52:59.440 and i think you you can probably my mother always used to say life is too short to surround

01:53:04.000 yourself with unhealthy people it does matter so what i i don't mean to sound matters heartless

01:53:09.600 but what's your take on it um well it's hard to get away with you know away from at this point

01:53:18.880 because you know so many children are adopting these identities so what you have to do what's

01:53:23.920 absolutely imperative is that you talk to your children about what's happening they need to know

01:53:29.040 about corporate influence they need to know about what's happening here exactly um you know that some

01:53:36.160 people have a disorder of their thinking and it's you know it's unkind to be unkind to them

01:53:44.320 but it's not real none of this gender blah blah blah is real and they have to understand this they

01:53:51.280 have to know this i have a relative who has a daughter when she was four you know she has four

01:53:56.560 brothers and she came to um my relative and she said you know uh i wanted i want to be a boy i'm a boy

01:54:04.800 and she's you know this person said no you're not and you're never going to be you can do whatever

01:54:09.760 you want that a boy can do you can cut your hair you can wear whatever you want you can say whatever 0.56

01:54:13.920 you want you can be engaged in whatever activities you want don't care up to you but you're not a boy

01:54:20.480 and you're never going to be a boy and that was it that was the end of it it's perfect that's what

01:54:26.240 we used to call parenting exactly

01:54:35.200 it's not so hard you can still do it this happens you have to get them off tech you have to get them

01:54:40.560 away from tech get them into the natural world get them engaged in other things learn a language

01:54:46.640 take music classes you know be surrounded with other healthy children that are embodied and enjoying

01:54:52.800 their bodies you know gymnastics you know sports so that they can feel their bodies at this point

01:54:59.120 you know they're so involved in tech that this technology is so real for them you know that

01:55:04.080 the identities that they're forming there are so real you know that you have to divorce them from this

01:55:10.160 technology and how about the capture you know is there any as somebody who's immersed herself

01:55:17.920 professionally and studying the amount of dollars put towards this agenda how it's been pushed on us

01:55:23.200 through the medical industrial complex through the tech con complex is there any way out of this like

01:55:31.120 do we emerge like for example i feel like we're starting to emerge from the black lives matter 0.99

01:55:36.480 race essentialism madness well it's not done but we're in a better place than we were in 2020 that's for 0.99

01:55:42.080 sure but now i'm starting to feel like my god is there no way out of this because you've got all

01:55:47.600 these billionaires george soros and the pritzkers and you know john striker and etc how do we extract

01:55:55.840 their tentacles from our lives and is there any restoring normalcy well i mean i don't really know

01:56:06.880 the answer to that i don't know where this is going but resisting my own enslavement is um and the

01:56:13.200 enslavement of the children in my life uh is of paramount importance to me and it's exhilarating

01:56:21.840 to call out the truth in a sea of lies it's absolutely exhilarating so it is exhilarating

01:56:30.400 so i think that we need to do that and need to look at it like that and activism is a love story and

01:56:35.440 everybody really needs to become an activist at this point you don't have a choice you have to become an

01:56:39.120 activist you have to organize against this you can't just leave it to the activists or leave

01:56:43.840 it to somebody else you know you have to organize in your own communities um and you know there's a

01:56:50.720 lot a lot of pushback now and it hasn't happened what are we what are we organizing for can you help

01:56:56.720 me like to the to the moms and dads listening to this right now we're like okay i'm in what exactly do

01:57:02.240 they need to do well they need to go to their school boards and say i want this this you know we i

01:57:07.840 want this out of my my kids schools right i don't want this here you have to organize with other

01:57:14.320 parents to go in there and make sure it's not happening you know you have to file lawsuits

01:57:20.320 against these people that are trying to indoctrinate your children wherever it's happening

01:57:25.760 um doctors are now being sued by by people who have had these um surgeries young people who are now

01:57:33.600 you know in regret mode after they've woken up and they're you know and films are being made about

01:57:38.880 these people you know and about well that's what i feel like i've been in several films now

01:57:43.920 i think joey bright was the first person who mentioned you and mentioned the medical industrial

01:57:48.080 complex aspect of this to me and she of course made a great film that we profiled on the show uh

01:57:53.200 my team's gonna remind me of the names escaping me but i give her credit in any event yes so keep going

01:57:58.560 uh yeah so you know you have to use your skills whatever they are you know whatever they are you

01:58:06.960 can be funny i mean there's a guy there's several guys on youtube that are funny and they make fun they

01:58:13.920 make fun of this issue and there are other people that make songs about it there's a there's a guy on

01:58:18.640 youtube um and uh twitter that makes uh rap music about this that is really really good um you know if you're

01:58:27.040 funny be funny if you're if you make music you know make music if you're you know if you're good

01:58:32.720 at organizing organize people um you have to work to your strengths but you have to become active and

01:58:38.560 mobile to you know to resist this um good advice and whatever happens the um the name of joey's

01:58:47.360 film and she came on and profiled and she changed the name but anyway right now it's affirmation

01:58:51.680 generation i watched it i couldn't remember it either it's very it's very reasonable and it's

01:58:58.160 well worth your time and it's very exposing of a lot of you know what we're talking about and beyond

01:59:03.360 i'm actually in that generation joey yeah that was the first introduction i had to you and then on

01:59:08.640 twitter as well i mean you're just a wealth of information and like so many fearless women who are 0.99

01:59:13.680 doing what you're doing um like invaluable to those of us who can't devote as much time

01:59:19.680 thank you jennifer all for all the work you do thanks for being so accommodating of us and our

01:59:23.520 scheduling and i i really my pleasure my pleasure and you're so brave to be just like you know

01:59:29.040 putting this out there i really really appreciate it oh no it's it's all you my friend and people if

01:59:34.800 you want to find more about jennifer now it's the 11th our blog.com is it 11th like one one th or is it

01:59:42.080 11th yes spelled out it's numerical one one okay okay so the 11th one one th our blog.com um you're

01:59:53.120 not going to find anybody better than this on on this topic it's so nice to meet you in person to be

01:59:57.440 continued thank you all right and all the best to our audience please do stay safe this weekend

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 13, 2023

Jews Targeted in ＂Day of Rage,＂ and the Money Behind Trans Movement, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Noah Rothman, and Jennifer Bilek

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