The Megyn Kelly Show - Kamala Fundraises During Catastrophic Hurricane, and Caitlin Clark Derangement Syndrome, with Victor Davis Hanson and Crain & Co

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.080 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.420 My God, the news today. Absolute devastation all along the east coast of the United States,

00:00:21.740 the southeast coast in particular, as the fallout from Hurricane Helene comes into focus.

00:00:27.200 Why haven't we been seeing this everywhere? I have not been seeing this everywhere.

00:00:32.880 This is a massive, massive weather event in the United States that's absolutely devastated

00:00:38.960 thousands and thousands of Americans who are struggling and dying right now.

00:00:45.900 Americans in this region are just starting to think about rebuilding their lives, their homes,

00:00:53.740 their communities. And this story, given where it is across North Carolina, particularly hard hit,

00:01:00.320 Georgia, Florida, could also now have major political implications at just weeks away from

00:01:06.600 the presidential election. At least it's going to be more than this. At least 115 people have lost

00:01:13.740 their lives so far. They are still just beginning to go through the rubble that's been left behind.

00:01:18.420 And if you've seen the flooding, the massive flooding, homes, all you can see is the rooftops

00:01:24.040 on block after block in Western North Carolina. Hundreds of people remain unaccounted for at this

00:01:31.820 hour as a result of that catastrophic flooding and damage. Look at this. Look at this.

00:01:37.560 There's just nothing left. There's nothing left of some towns. This is in North Carolina.

00:01:44.720 President Biden spoke this morning about it from the White House saying he has activated FEMA and

00:01:49.160 the National Guard. He signed disaster declarations in Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina and

00:01:54.700 Georgia and more areas as well. He says he's going to visit the area as soon as possible. He spent the

00:02:01.200 weekend in Delaware at his beach house. But great. I'm glad that now that it's Monday and we're between

00:02:06.400 11 and four. He's actually taking it seriously. I'm sorry, but get off your beach and get to work.

00:02:16.460 OK. He says he wants to avoid being a distraction and therefore expects to be there later this week.

00:02:22.600 I'm just going to say it. I don't believe him. I don't believe he's worried about being a

00:02:26.060 distraction. That can be an issue with presidents. I believe he's tired. He didn't get off his ass until

00:02:32.020 late in this crisis. Then he finally was told it was an election year. So he did what any president

00:02:37.940 would do. But I don't believe he even has the wherewithal to want to travel or go down there.

00:02:44.580 Former President Trump is heading to Georgia this afternoon to be briefed on the damage.

00:02:50.000 Governor Brian Kemp, he flew over parts of Georgia on Monday, surveying the damage this morning and said

00:02:55.260 it was unprecedented what he was seeing, the amount of devastation so far inland and saying,

00:03:02.180 quote, it looks like a 250 mile wide tornado has hit. Wow. I agree with that. You see it with your own

00:03:10.920 eyes. His Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, is coming off a West Coast campaign swing

00:03:17.240 and traveling back to Washington, D.C. right now to be briefed by FEMA. According to Politico,

00:03:23.240 she will visit the region when the time is right. We've heard little from her on the matter other

00:03:28.120 than social media posts and a brief mention at her Las Vegas rally last night. Joining me now to

00:03:35.320 discuss it all, Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the book,

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00:04:51.440 BDH, welcome back to the show. This is so bad. It's absolutely bad. In this region, we have

00:05:00.060 thousands of homes and roads, including major highways and bridges washed away. Reading here

00:05:06.580 from Political Playbook, the AP and CNN collating their reporting. Millions remain without power,

00:05:12.800 water, or reliable communications. Property losses certainly to be counted in the tens of billions of

00:05:20.160 dollars. Some of the roads and bridges that FEMA needs to do its job are not there anymore.

00:05:25.580 Electricity could be out a week or longer. Emergency services stretched far too thin. Communications

00:05:32.680 infrastructure is in tatters. This has proven already to be among the deadliest U.S. hurricanes

00:05:39.460 in the last 50 years. The loss of life. Look at these pictures. The loss of life, home, community

00:05:47.100 is just, it's hard to wrap your arms around. Sorry, Deb, where is this? North Carolina where?

00:05:54.320 Biltmore. Biltmore Village, North Carolina. And all along Western North Carolina, this was not a

00:05:59.760 coastal thing. This is on the west coast of the state where it looks like this hurricane just sat

00:06:05.040 with a deluge of rain causing, yeah, as Brian Kemp said, what looked like a 250-mile-wide tornado that

00:06:13.760 hit in Georgia and then South Carolina and North Carolina. And we're still seeing people stranded

00:06:20.760 on rooftops. It has echoes of Katrina. Victor, what do you make of it?

00:06:26.600 Well, the media seems to be ignoring it. I don't want to say it's political, but it seems like it is.

00:06:32.280 I mean, it's much more like the coverage of East Palestine, Ohio and the railroad wreck and the

00:06:37.400 toxic cloud than it is the 2005 coverage of Katrina. And I remember when George Bush flew over Katrina,

00:06:44.980 he had just been reelected and he looked out the window and they took a picture of that and they said,

00:06:49.440 the headline said, Bush flies over. I mean, immediately when he landed, he went out there

00:06:54.840 and he waited around and he said some silly things. He put his arm around and said, Brownie,

00:06:59.920 great job, which it wasn't done. But the point I'm making is the media used that iconic moment of him

00:07:05.860 up in a jet with people struggling on the ground. And his administration never recovered that second

00:07:11.460 term. That was institutionalized, that he was supposedly callous. And yet, the media doesn't

00:07:21.300 seem to have the same interests as they did with Katrina. And again, that reminds me of the way

00:07:26.160 they just ignored the plight of the people in Ohio and East Palestine. And these things are really

00:07:31.420 important historically in an election. You remember when Chris Christie hugged Obama about the New Jersey

00:07:37.700 storm right before the 2000, everybody said, wow, Christie endorses Obama's FEMA treatment of the

00:07:44.720 storms in Jersey. So he's okay. And yet, the way that a president or a candidate reacts to these

00:07:53.680 disasters, that means a lot because it shows whether they're empathetic and competent. And I don't know

00:08:00.820 why. I think you're right about Biden. But I think Harris, for some reason, I don't know what it is.

00:08:07.780 She doesn't want to go down there and get waiters on. And she loves photo ops at the border. But you

00:08:13.420 would think that she would be down there consulting, etc, etc. I know that they took a photo op in a plane

00:08:20.060 where she's pictured riding on a pad with her ear pods or something as if she's in a control

00:08:30.200 command center up 40,000 feet up in the air. But it's not the same. And again, the media knows that

00:08:36.380 this could be damaging to her re-election. So they're not going to cover it, at least in the way

00:08:41.900 that they felt that it could be damaging to George Bush's second term. And they really, I mean, that

00:08:47.480 was a terrible thing, Katrina. But he was on 24-7 as insensitive, racist, terrible president,

00:08:54.240 just because he had initially flown over. And he never recovered from that. And the mayor just

00:08:58.300 lambasted him every... Nagan, I think his name was. Yeah, he ended up in prison. But Bush ended up

00:09:08.840 doing a pretty good job. And yet it was devastating for his presidency.

00:09:13.820 The initial response was so slow. You're right. He never recovered. It was a stain from which he

00:09:19.040 never recovered. This thing hit North Carolina on Friday, North Carolina on Friday. And the picture

00:09:25.780 started coming out on Saturday, which is absolutely devastating. Even worse yesterday. Last night,

00:09:33.160 last night, well into the devastation, the loss of life, men, women, children, pets, the entire

00:09:42.620 devastation and destruction of communities, Kamala Harris attended an L.A. fundraiser.

00:09:50.040 This tweet goes out from Matt Visor. Kamala Harris is at an L.A. fundraiser with Stevie Wonder,

00:09:58.120 Keegan-Michael Key, Sterling Brown, Demi Lovato, Jessica Alba, Lily Tomlin, Alanis Morissette,

00:10:05.580 and Holly Bailey performing menu, duck egg roll, goat cheese honey blueberry ball, beef Wellington,

00:10:15.620 lobster roll, lobster roll, and crab cakes. This was September 29th at 7.48 p.m.

00:10:26.420 The devastation was ongoing, Victor. How dare she?

00:10:32.140 I know. I don't think she's in touch. I mean, she went down to the border and people looked at that

00:10:38.800 she had a Tiffany's gold necklace, reportedly. It doesn't. And she was dressed up like she was in

00:10:44.820 command. But I think the problem is that they are so terrified that if she's in any impromptu

00:10:51.100 ad hoc moment, she can lose the election with a word salad of, I don't know, 30 seconds. And they

00:10:56.980 think that she's not well liked by the public. And that people have got this impression, I think

00:11:02.040 accurately, that she's artificial and canned. So if she were to go down there and put on waiters and

00:11:07.620 walk around as she did at the border, I think it would be sort of like an Ivy League president going

00:11:15.560 to the ones that have been fired, going to a synagogue and explain why they're there to help

00:11:21.440 stop anti-Semitism. It's counterproductive is what I'm trying to say. And the border photo op,

00:11:27.660 I didn't think helped. I think it hurt her. And I think if she were going to go there,

00:11:30.880 she would say something and it wouldn't be good. And they know that. And therefore,

00:11:35.760 they're going to keep her out of that. And when you force multiply that by a non-composment as

00:11:40.940 president, you have no one in control of the government that's on site. But that's not new.

00:11:46.640 They did the same thing during East Palestine with that toxic flume.

00:11:52.040 The town we were showing with the shards of wood is Chimney Rock, North Carolina. The reports are,

00:12:00.760 it's just gone. I don't know how large the town is, but the reports are, it's gone. The town is gone.

00:12:07.980 This is the picture. We keep seeing the video for the listening audience. It's just absolute

00:12:13.780 devastating. There's nothing. It's not even like a tornado where you can see clumps of houses

00:12:18.020 remaining. This looks like just shards of wood, almost like massive, large toothpicks flattened out.

00:12:26.580 And then every once in a while, you see what appears to be a little bit of a rooftop. There

00:12:33.020 are reports of grandmas and grandpas on top of roofs with grandchildren trying to get help from

00:12:41.260 overhead and dying. There's all sorts of absolutely devastating personal stories that are starting to

00:12:50.080 emerge from what's happening there. And the federal response to this, Victor, will be an issue. I've

00:12:57.880 lived through enough of these as an order to know. There's just no way it won't be, even with this

00:13:04.920 media, even understanding that we are five and a half, six weeks out from an election. Now they will

00:13:10.680 run cover for this administration. But if there is not an all hands on deck situation to try to help

00:13:17.900 these Americans suffering right now, this media, they love ratings more than they love anything.

00:13:23.600 And they will be forced to send the choppers out there and see the people waving for help,

00:13:28.160 as we've seen all over Elon Musk's ex this morning and yesterday.

00:13:33.120 Yeah. Yeah. But the problem, Megan, is the longer you wait, then the more artificial

00:13:37.860 the eventual appearance becomes. And we saw that at the border. It becomes counterproductive. As soon as

00:13:43.500 she left the border, everybody in the border patrol said, why wasn't she here before? She's only here

00:13:48.260 for an election. So it's been Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. She's got to get there today. And he does

00:13:54.160 too. If they don't, then it's they're either afraid or they're too lazy or they're not interested, or they

00:14:00.160 feel that people are not as important as others are, or whatever the reason is, they have to get there

00:14:05.840 immediately. Because when they do come, if under pressure, it looks like they were forced to go

00:14:10.500 because of mounting, as you say, media pressure. And then it's it's going to be too little too late,

00:14:16.660 and it's going to be counterproductive. And I think they're right at that critical moment where

00:14:21.880 they're debating right now. Is it too late to go down there? And will it look like that we're just

00:14:25.780 pandering? Or should we get down there as quickly as possible to show that we're in control and we're

00:14:30.300 going to stop the suffering? And that's how they look at everything. It's calculated, unfortunately.

00:14:35.780 President Biden, President Trump said that Biden, who spent the weekend in Delaware, as I mentioned,

00:14:44.800 was, quote, sleeping on the beach instead of leading the recovery effort. And he blasted Kamala

00:14:50.500 Harris for fundraising in California and Nevada when she, quote, ought to be down in the area.

00:14:56.360 I mean, it's a fair point by by somebody who's running for office saying you were caught flat

00:15:02.160 footed. Where is the rescue personnel? What are you doing other than fundraising and sitting on the

00:15:08.160 beach? President Biden waited till this morning to speak, vowing that the feds will assist the

00:15:13.740 survivors, quote, for as long as it takes. And then he signed disaster declarations over the weekend.

00:15:22.640 Harris, she made calls to local leaders.

00:15:25.140 She prefaced her Las Vegas rally with a pledge of support and a call for solidarity.

00:15:33.300 I just this is so awful to me, Victor. It's not this is one of those situations in which

00:15:38.820 you do need the feds. You need FEMA. There's a reason that we all pay tax dollars that are used

00:15:44.980 for this organization. I mean, these are very competent governors, many of them who should be

00:15:50.120 able to do some of the work. But it is an all hands on deck situation where you still have

00:15:54.700 Americans at risk and the nerve to be out there eating her duck egg roll, goat cheese, honey,

00:16:02.680 blueberry ball, beef, Wellington, lobster roll and crab cakes as the people died will come back to

00:16:10.140 haunt her. It will. But I don't think she's ever done anything like this in her life. I think every

00:16:15.880 the one of the things that we've known discovered during this campaign is that when she says these

00:16:20.700 embarrassing things, whether it's, you know, illegal immigration is not a crime, no deportation,

00:16:27.780 she always is emphatic about it because she's always speaking to the left wing, sympathetic audience

00:16:32.960 and she grandstands or demagogues to them. But she's never a spoken in an environment or gone into

00:16:39.420 environment where she might be questioned or cross examined. And number two, she's that's not who she

00:16:46.960 is. She's not a pragmatic person with common sense. So if she were to go there, what would she ask?

00:16:52.160 She said, do you have enough? Do we have enough water? Do we have sewage working? Is there fuel for

00:16:56.880 you? What can I she's not going to ask this question because her entire life for despite what she says

00:17:03.020 about being middle class has been one of privilege, connections, influence, convenient left wing

00:17:08.840 boutique politics, abstraction over concrete issues? She's never dealt with any of that. So I think they've

00:17:16.000 thought, you know, she's so inept and she's never been with actual middle class people and in suffering and

00:17:22.540 she doesn't know anything about what they need or what they might need because she can't envision herself in that

00:17:28.900 same situation because she'll never she never was in it. She'll never be in it. And I think they know that. And that's

00:17:34.940 it's it's the same. We're going to run out the clock and take the hit of not appearing because appearing might be a

00:17:41.240 bigger hit. And that's how they calculate these. And I think they they they starting to regret the border visit, you

00:17:47.300 know, it was not very empathetic to people. She looked like she was stylish dressed up for the occasion. She looked like she

00:17:54.000 was going to be the executive going down there, but no one wanted her down there. And even the media was not

00:17:59.580 necessarily sympathetic because it was so obvious. And so I think they're in a doom loop, Megan. They're damned if

00:18:06.720 they do if she does and damned if they don't, which is a tragedy because they really do need a president

00:18:12.100 and a vice president down there to show everybody that they better start helping these people or there's going

00:18:18.980 to be ramifications. And they need all of these federal bureaucrats to know they're being watched

00:18:24.160 and audited by the highest echelons of government. And if you don't do that, it's kind of on autopilot.

00:18:29.560 And there's a sense of a lackadaisical attitude that will permeate the entire recovery effort.

00:18:35.880 The photo op of the border wall was infuriating. She went for 20 minutes and then she came out trying

00:18:42.820 to act like this is a top priority for her. The, um, the border patrol guys were promptly out there

00:18:50.380 ripping on her. Uh, I saw them on Fox news saying these two guys that she met with were management.

00:18:56.080 And even they were probably embarrassed that they had to be pulled into this, but they couldn't

00:19:00.000 exactly say no to the sitting vice president of the United States. She goes looking at the border

00:19:04.900 wall. Like she has a real interest in it. This, this border wall that she called a stupid use of money

00:19:11.560 saying, quote, I will block any funding for it. In 2017, she called the wall Trump's medieval vanity

00:19:18.920 project. She said the border wall in 2020, she said is a complete waste of money. Won't make us any

00:19:25.440 safer. And there she is looking at it like she admires its, its strength and its capabilities in

00:19:33.040 keeping illegals out of the country. This is the same woman who was quick to jump on the bandwagon to

00:19:38.400 accuse the border patrol agents falsely of whipping the Haitian migrants, something for which she's

00:19:44.680 never apologized. Mayorkas peddled that lie knowing it was a lie. He was told it was a lie before he

00:19:51.800 peddled it. He pushed it anyway, but worse than any of that, they're the reason we have all these

00:19:56.520 immigrants in the country right now, tens of millions of illegals and over a million so-called

00:20:03.940 illegal in places like Springfield, et cetera. And she really wants us to believe we should trust her

00:20:10.400 to enforce the border. Yeah. Her, her problem is that in the last 10 years and even especially as

00:20:18.080 vice, but she's commented on every aspect of illegal immigration. She said that you should not deport

00:20:24.040 anybody. She was like a teenager out at a rally in Los Angeles, no deportations, no deportations.

00:20:29.500 She's talked about catch and release that you've got to bring it back. She said that illegals,

00:20:37.360 crossing illegally in the country is not a, is not a criminal statute, a violation of a criminal

00:20:42.780 statute. She's talked about the 600 sanctuary cities. She's compared the border patrol of the Ku Klux Klan

00:20:49.780 in that case of the so-called whipping. So the wall, everything she's on record. So everybody knows

00:20:55.820 that she's not sincere. And on November 6th, the day after the election, if she loses and she's got

00:21:03.180 three more months as a lame duck vice president, she will revert right back to where she was 90 days

00:21:08.800 ago. And that is, you know, she's an open borders person. And if she wins, she will be, and she'll

00:21:15.180 think she has a four year tenure. She'll revert right back to where she was because this wasn't an

00:21:20.540 accident. I mean, it's, it's very hard to let in 10 to 12 million people. We have more people

00:21:26.380 percentage wise, 16% now than any time in American history, 60 million people were not born in the

00:21:32.380 United States. And so that's hard to do. And they, it just prompts the question, why did they do it?

00:21:38.280 And I think the, the answer is obvious that under the new 2020 rules of voting, when we went from 70%

00:21:46.160 and most States voting on election day to 30%, it was very hard to authenticate the genuine nature

00:21:52.040 of ballots. And they felt the more people you can bring in, there's, they're going to filter into

00:21:56.800 the system. Some are going to vote there. If they don't, there's still a constituency that needs

00:22:01.620 massive subsidies and health, education, housing, food, and they're going to reward us for generations

00:22:07.860 at the polls for being the party that welcomed them in and grew government, raised taxes and created

00:22:13.900 more of the welfare state. And that's what it's all about was all deliberate. They're incompetent.

00:22:18.600 I understand that, but this, everybody says they're incompetent. They didn't, they can't do it. They did

00:22:23.420 this intentionally and they're going to continue to do it intentionally. That's the thing, because now

00:22:28.300 there's this huge push by the Biden administration to legalize all of these illegals in the country and

00:22:36.580 fast track them to getting ID and being able to vote. And, you know, with between 10 and 20 million

00:22:43.720 of them in the country now, thanks to this administration, who knows what percentage of

00:22:49.200 them actually will get fast tracked. It does seem like many have been saying all along, like a total

00:22:55.960 election ploy. Like the whole thing is just an election ploy to make the United States a permanent

00:23:01.900 state of California forevermore, where you can never have Republican, a Republican win statewide

00:23:09.260 again or countrywide again. Well, Megan, you know, I'm in California and I'm on ground zero of all this

00:23:17.580 in Fresno County in the middle of the state. When I used to fly into Fresno air terminal after 11 and I

00:23:24.120 get delayed a lot, there was nobody in there, obviously a regional airport. When I go in there now,

00:23:29.720 if I come in at one o'clock or 12 on a late flight, it's the most busy period of the entire 24 hour

00:23:36.920 cycle. There's hundreds of people in the airport and we have nonstop flights from three Mexico cities

00:23:43.820 and of all places, Fresno and they're booked solid. And there's hundreds of people flying in every night

00:23:48.840 and we don't have a passport control in Fresno customs office. So I guess that they're either being

00:23:54.980 cleared in Mexico or they're regularly scheduled flights or something, but we've never had that

00:23:59.380 before. And so now people, the busiest time is two, three and four in the morning when we're just a

00:24:06.800 direct conduit from Mexico. And that's true of a lot of California and other places in the United States

00:24:11.540 and no one talks about it. But again, it gets back to the idea they have no confidence in their agenda.

00:24:17.280 Every issue does not pull 51%. So their attitude is, well, we either have to go into these 90 day

00:24:24.100 campaign cycles where we deny everything that we're doing. And most of these Senate races, the Democratic

00:24:29.780 candidate is doing exactly what Kamala Harris is. They're not talking about their record. They're going to,

00:24:35.480 they're moving from hard left to center, in some cases, center right, because the people don't want their

00:24:41.380 agenda. So they either have to fake it during election cycles with the help from the media to cover for them,

00:24:46.640 or they have to get constituencies, both long-term and short-term. Everybody knows what they're doing

00:24:52.860 there. And then what you just said, or what I just said, they have a deterrent effort that that would

00:24:59.740 be called racist or nativist or xenophobic. And so people don't, don't speak up about it because you

00:25:06.780 take a big hit when you do. That's right. That's, they've been saying this about Tucker, about many

00:25:11.220 people for a long time, the great replacement theory. Oh, that's what they do. Tucker was quoting

00:25:18.320 the left on their stated plans of bringing in all these immigrants to take over the voting rolls.

00:25:24.440 John Judas and Roy Texera wrote a book called The New Democratic Majority. It was a triumphalist book.

00:25:31.120 And you look at article after article, they take that, that common phrase, demography is destiny.

00:25:37.480 That is a left-wing slogan that we are bringing people in who are going to bring vigor and youth

00:25:44.820 and vitality to this old sort of ossified, calcified, European, American, has-been-spent

00:25:53.600 population. That's, that's what they talk about all the time. I hear it all the time in California

00:25:58.260 and they're open about it. So when Tucker started to address that, they said, well, you're part of the

00:26:04.220 great replacement theory, but the great replacement theory was their theory. And they had terms for it.

00:26:09.200 They didn't use replacement. They were a little bit clever. They called it demography is destiny,

00:26:13.500 our new democratic majority. We flipped California from the Reagan, Doug Masian, Pete Wilson,

00:26:20.040 Schwarzenegger era. No more 32 years of awful Republicans. It's blue forever. Colorado's blue

00:26:26.180 forever. New Mexico is now blue forever. We're going to flip Nevada. It's purple. It's almost blue.

00:26:31.980 Same thing. We're looking at Arizona and Texas. The only irony about their whole project is

00:26:37.240 there's a lot of Mexican-American, especially males over 40 that have had it with them because

00:26:43.400 they're impacted and a lot of communities are. And if the, if the Hispanic or the Mexican-American

00:26:49.120 vote gets up to 45% or even higher, they'll close the border. And they're doing that with Cubans

00:26:55.640 already, as you know, if you're Cuban and you came here illegally, then you're treated a little

00:26:59.460 different than a Venezuelan or a Mexican national. Absolutely. Because they, they,

00:27:05.040 they know exactly what will happen. But meanwhile, this, that we do know something about the people

00:27:11.220 who are in this country. And we know that a very disturbingly high percentage of them

00:27:15.940 are criminals already are violent criminals in their country. Now, a couple of things about this

00:27:21.780 report that hit from ice. What happened was a U S representative, Tony Gonzalez, a Republican

00:27:27.020 asked the department of Homeland security. Of course, that's Mayorkas's department for data

00:27:33.540 on migrants who have criminal backgrounds. And finally, he got back a response from the ice

00:27:42.760 deputy director named Patrick, uh, Lechleitner. And that response from ice was jaw dropping

00:27:50.760 and made the rounds over the past few days in a way that really was alarming to many people

00:27:55.000 reporting that there were 600,000, 62,566. In other words, six, six, two comma five, six, six

00:28:04.100 non-citizens with criminal histories on the agency's non detained docket of those 435,000 are convicted

00:28:15.600 criminals. 13,000 have been convicted of homicide, almost 16,000 convicted of sexual assault,

00:28:24.640 another 226,000 have pending a current criminal charges against them. 1800 plus have pending

00:28:34.100 homicide charges. 4,200 plus have pending sexual assault charges. Uh, like Leitner, the guy from

00:28:42.900 ice blame some of these releases. Cause he people are all at large. They're at large. Most of these,

00:28:48.240 um, on sanctuary cities where they were nabbed, but ice placed a detainer on them saying to the local

00:28:54.900 cops, don't release them. You go, Oh great. They got pulled over. They, they got, you know,

00:28:58.640 accused of sexual assault. We want them to deport them. And cities like San Francisco or entire states

00:29:04.960 are sanctuary, uh, like Massachusetts say, no, we're not doing that. We're not going to detain them.

00:29:10.200 We're letting them go. So the, but then there was a follow-up over the weekend where DHS Mayorkas is

00:29:18.660 politicized group, which oversees ice comes in and says, the data is being misrepresented.

00:29:25.100 The data goes back decades. It includes individuals who entered the country over the past 40 years or

00:29:31.820 more. It also includes many. I don't know what that means. Four, five, how many who are under the

00:29:39.480 jurisdiction or currently incarcerated by the fed state or local law enforcement partners that

00:29:45.120 noticeably do not put any numbers on these because they don't want us to know what percentage came in

00:29:51.140 under Harris Biden. And that's the key. If they really feel that that figure does include people

00:29:59.160 that are incarcerated, it's much easier to get the data on the people that are in custody than people

00:30:03.380 that are not in custody. So all they had to do was release and say there were 12,000 convicted

00:30:08.540 murders, but don't worry. We have data that shows that they're in federal or state prison and they're

00:30:14.360 half of them. And even if that were not true, why, if they knew these people were here and they had

00:30:20.520 four years, does it really matter what administration they came under? Why wouldn't they go after them

00:30:25.840 and deport them? And they know that. And the thing is they're all insulated out here, you know,

00:30:33.080 in Los Angeles County and Fresno County, there've been reports over the last 10 years that almost half

00:30:38.460 of all traffic accidents, the perpetrator who caused the accident leaves the scene. And, you know,

00:30:44.820 I live out in the country. I've had four people in the last 15 years leave the scene of the

00:30:51.300 intoxicated, leave the road, plow into an orchard, tear out trees, vineyard, and leave the scene of the

00:30:59.500 accident. And then when you try to take a tractor and pull the car over, the highway patrolman says,

00:31:05.680 you cannot do that. We have to impound that. So, and no compensation, no, nothing, and no law

00:31:12.480 enforcement. And everybody knows that in this part. Anytime anybody goes, drives daily through rural

00:31:19.140 California, when you know there's this many people who are foreign nationals and here illegally and

00:31:24.540 don't know how to drive or follow the traffic laws, but more importantly, that if they were to get into

00:31:30.400 a accident, they would leave the scene of the accident rather than stay there. Everybody knows

00:31:37.240 that. So none of my family drive anywhere unless they have a full Ram Dodge truck, double seated,

00:31:45.980 you know, really huge truck, because that's what you do if you're driving. I drive once a week to the

00:31:51.780 coast. I go right across rural California for a hundred miles. And I can tell you in the last 15 years,

00:31:58.240 I've had about 15 people run the stop sign and every single situation, I've been in a very heavy

00:32:04.760 pickup and I've almost been killed about three times, but that's just the way of life in these

00:32:10.340 communities. And this is what's so frustrating. Mallorcas, Kamala Harris, they know that, but they

00:32:16.240 don't, they're shielded from it. Pelosi's shielded from it. They know that. And that's why people are so

00:32:22.820 angry about it because these Hispanic communities, Mexican American community, they deal with it every

00:32:27.900 day, every single day. And they're impacted. I go to the local health center in my community. It's 90%

00:32:35.600 Hispanic. And the local residents are just shocked because there's just lines out the door of people

00:32:42.280 who need healthcare that have never been to a doctor. And you can't get the type of services that

00:32:47.300 was promised to you that are you need because we're servicing nationwide 12, 13, who knows how many

00:32:54.660 people came in the last four years on top of 20 to 25 million that were here already. And so

00:33:01.800 it's Orwellian. And yet when I travel to Stanford University each week and I say to my colleagues

00:33:10.880 or people on campus, they get aghast. How dare you say that? I couldn't believe you said that.

00:33:16.840 And if you say, well, you know what you got, you're creating, you're importing massive poverty.

00:33:22.420 27% of the people in California do not pay their PG&E bill. And you know what that means?

00:33:27.420 The whole system is broke and people can't afford to turn on because they have to increase the rates

00:33:32.280 because you have a quarter of the population doesn't send in their bill. And then you see people

00:33:37.820 in my community, it's 115 in August and they're in Walmart. And what are they doing in Walmart?

00:33:42.520 The poor people are trying to get cool. They can't afford to turn on the air conditioning.

00:33:46.980 And you tell people that in San Francisco or Los Angeles or Palo Alto, and they think,

00:33:51.860 well, it's 70 degrees here. I don't know what you're talking about. And so that's, I'm not trying to

00:33:57.760 personalize. I'm just trying to suggest that the problem is this bi-coastal elite that implements

00:34:04.200 these procedures and protocols know exactly what they're doing. And it's all predicated on,

00:34:10.840 we have the Martha's Vineyard attitude. We care about these people very deeply in the abstract,

00:34:16.960 but if they get near me in the concrete, they're out of here. And that's their attitude.

00:34:21.760 I mean, that's why the nerve, that's why even the border patrol was angry after she went down there.

00:34:26.560 That's why they're furious.

00:34:27.360 Used them like props as if she cares at all about the border. We all know she doesn't. It's just,

00:34:34.180 it's amazing to me. I don't think that the Americans who are getting ready to vote for her,

00:34:37.540 like Stan McChrystal, Victor, actually think she's going to tighten the border, right?

00:34:44.660 Why is General McChrystal coming out and saying, we don't really care about policy. We only care

00:34:52.040 about personal character. Oh, we have it. Do we have it? Yes. Listen to him. Here he is. And then

00:34:58.480 I'll get your reaction. Stop 14.

00:34:59.700 Let's be sure. We don't elect a president based on policies. We shouldn't. We should elect them for

00:35:07.220 the character because we don't know what's going to come up. What we've seen from Kamala Harris

00:35:11.760 convinces me she has the strength. She has the values to deal with the uncertain crises.

00:35:18.780 Go ahead, Victor.

00:35:19.580 He knows that's not true. He was a very effective commander in Iraq. He was kind of in charge of a

00:35:26.500 hunter-killer team that helped find Saddam. So he's a very astute, sophisticated thinker. He knows that.

00:35:33.140 But Megan, he also has been very successful by running a lucrative leadership corporation where

00:35:40.280 retired officers with his very rich experience can advise CEOs about how they can better manage their

00:35:49.000 companies according to the principles that he learned in the military. And he's very influential.

00:35:53.500 He's very affluent now. And what I'm getting at, if you look at all of these 700 national security

00:36:00.640 experts who weighed in, saying the same thing that he did, or the 51 intelligence authorities that weighed

00:36:06.680 in in 2020, or the 100 former security analysts, they all have, I mean, I'm not saying they're all

00:36:14.020 compromised, but they understand that the cost of doing business and saying that you are against

00:36:19.680 the Progressive Project or Kamala Harris, and that you might just possibly vote for Donald Trump or

00:36:25.760 be favored, that's a career-ending, money-losing proposition. And they understand that. There's no

00:36:31.720 corporate board ships there. There's no revolving door lobbyist. You're not going to be on General

00:36:36.940 Dynamics or Lockheed as an advisor. It's just not going to happen.

00:36:41.400 And General McChrystal knows, just to be provocative, that if he were to come out and say,

00:36:46.800 you know, there's nothing in Kamala Harris's career that has ever showed leadership,

00:36:51.480 she can't even be truthful about her middle-class supposed upbringing or her McDonald's

00:36:57.720 employment that might be proof of earthiness or something. And I just don't think that she's

00:37:03.380 ever had any leadership ability demonstrated. He would be done for. No corporation would want to

00:37:09.400 hire him. If they did, they would be blacklisted. And they know that. And so I was really disappointed

00:37:17.440 to see that, given the service he did to the United States. But that's a whole other issue about our

00:37:23.660 generals that are retired. Because as you know, in 2020 and 21, and also as early as 18 and 19,

00:37:32.360 the statute of Uniform Code of Military Justice, statute 82 says that no retired general shall

00:37:39.620 disparage the commander in chief. But we had our most illustrious admirals and generals saying that

00:37:45.760 of Donald Trump, after the riots in Washington, D.C. during the George Floyd effort, when he raised the

00:37:52.720 issue of using federal troops in the way that, you know, a lot of presidents have, George H.W. Bush,

00:37:58.080 especially. And he did it. And all of a sudden, these generals came out and said, he's Hitler.

00:38:02.720 He's Mussolini. He's a liar. He can't tell the truth. And General McChrystal, I don't know if you

00:38:09.280 remember, and I'm just recalling this by memory, but when he started this company and he was advising

00:38:17.420 and he was in the echelons of power, he wrote an article for the Left Wing Atlantic magazine. He said the

00:38:23.080 following. I was brain, basically, I was brainwashed my entire life as a military man. I admired Robert

00:38:30.400 E. Lee. And then all of a sudden, I discovered, this was during the statute.

00:38:34.140 I heard you discussing this on your podcast. This was good. Sorry, keep going.

00:38:37.040 All of a sudden, I discovered that he was illiberal and he may have had slaves. You know what I did? I

00:38:42.500 took off that picture and I smashed it and I threw it in the dumpster. And he had to tell us the world

00:38:48.840 that. And that was, why did he have to tell the world that? And he's a very intelligent guy. He's

00:38:55.080 been, as I said, he's a very heroic figure, but I don't believe that his entire life, he didn't know

00:39:00.420 that Robert E. Lee owned slaves. And I don't think he came to that conclusion at about the time he

00:39:06.460 started being a consultant to corporate America at very high renumerative fees. So it's something

00:39:14.800 wrong. There's something wrong with the military right now. As we know, they're short soldiers are

00:39:18.960 short the right type of equipment. Their stockpiles are down. They've got woke DEI, their account. But

00:39:25.380 there's something wrong with our command. When they leave, they need to go, they don't need to weigh in.

00:39:31.880 If they're going to weigh in, they have to be sober and judicious. They don't have to go

00:39:35.180 and make these outstanding claims. I mean, I like all of them. But when Admiral McRaven said that

00:39:41.820 Donald Trump should leave sooner the better when we have scheduled elections, come on. Or

00:39:48.540 General Hayden said at the border that Donald Trump, who inherited the so-called cages from Obama, said

00:39:54.700 he's doing the same thing they did in Auschwitz. This was from a four-star general. And it's really

00:40:02.420 disturbing. I don't think they understand what they're doing. And they get very, you know,

00:40:07.100 I work with a lot of people. He's undermining faith in the military, even though he's retired.

00:40:11.640 People understand that he's one of our most respected generals. It's like, okay, you get out

00:40:17.460 there. Maybe you just say, and he does, to me, he sounds like a Democrat when he talks. Because if

00:40:21.620 you read the longer transcript of what he said, he skirts around some of his issues like abortion.

00:40:27.340 And he phrases some of the issues in a way that suggested to me he's a Democrat. Fine,

00:40:31.820 you can be a Democrat. But to come out there and make your point, policies don't matter.

00:40:38.060 Policies just don't matter at all. Because he knows he can't, he can't look us in the face and

00:40:42.880 say the border is secure. You know, he's not going to defend the United States being a safer place now

00:40:49.400 after four years under Joe Biden versus the four years at the end of Trump. So he's just got to lie.

00:40:55.140 He's, it's, I know the term gets overused, but it's a gaslighting, you know, like just policy is

00:40:59.500 irrelevant. Don't you all, you have to look at his character. Well, if that's all we're looking at,

00:41:03.920 she still loses. I don't know anything about her, at least with Trump. I know what his

00:41:08.880 character flaws are, right? He's obviously somewhat narcissistic. He cannot let a grudge

00:41:14.160 go away. And that's, those are his main two. I'm sure there are others that are not just coming to

00:41:20.340 mind at the moment, but Kamala Harris, she remains a complete mystery. All I know about her is that she is

00:41:26.500 a far leftist raised by a Marxist who believes solely in equity, where we all need to wind up

00:41:33.460 in the same place, no matter how hard we worked between A and Z. So I, I don't believe him. So

00:41:40.760 he's lying to us. And the reasons you offer as a possibility make as much sense as any.

00:41:46.460 When some, when he says somebody, it's a character issue. When somebody tells us that is part of the

00:41:53.640 001% of the nation whose parents were both PhDs and just happened to be born in Oakland, but grew up

00:42:00.260 in Berkeley and then lived in one of the poscious neighborhoods in Montreal. And we're supposed to

00:42:06.600 believe that she was middle-class. She wasn't. Nothing about her was ever middle-class. She was,

00:42:11.560 she was among the elite. And he knows that. And she's deliberately being disingenuous. And he knows

00:42:17.180 that. And he knows that when she speaks, it's incoherent. And he knows that. And, you know,

00:42:24.640 if he says that characters matters, I mean, all of our presidents have had character problems,

00:42:30.200 if you go back to Bill Clinton or any of them. And so he, he, they all know that, but I can tell you

00:42:37.020 that, that where the power and the money is not anymore on, on the right. I mean, that, that old

00:42:44.580 fortunes of agriculture and mining and transportation and construction is just out. I mean, it's still

00:42:51.380 there. It's important oil and gas and all that, but the, the big global money, as you know, better

00:42:56.480 than I, Megan is in hedge funds, investment, insurance, media, uh, tech Silicon Valley, $9 trillion.

00:43:05.040 And I, and they have enormous, we saw that with Facebook and the old Twitter when all of a sudden,

00:43:11.480 all these FBI, James Baker, the chief counsel left his FBI job for, I don't know what it was,

00:43:17.720 200,000, maybe at most. And he ended up making $7 million in one year. And yet he was at ground

00:43:23.920 zero of the fusion between social media and the FBI to smother the laptop disinformation, uh, that

00:43:32.980 whole, that whole hoax that, that, uh, was exposed by the New York post. So that's what we're dealing

00:43:39.340 with. There's so much money and it's all on one side and the opportunities for people in the media,

00:43:45.660 but especially the military, when they retire, they can be rich beyond their wildest dreams,

00:43:50.900 but there is one rule. And that is, if you suggest that you're conservative and worse yet,

00:43:57.620 that you would favor a MAGA type of approach, you're not going to be a very good consultant to

00:44:03.440 just the corporate people are not going to hire you. And if they did want to hire you,

00:44:08.240 they wouldn't let, they wouldn't let anybody know. Yeah, exactly. Right. I'm trying to find

00:44:13.120 what he said, um, where he gets into, Oh, it was his New York times op-ed. Yeah. Although I have

00:44:19.400 opinions on high prof profile issues like abortion, gun safety, and that's an interesting way to phrase

00:44:26.600 the, you know, I mean, I think the true second amendment supporters would have stuck to second

00:44:30.760 amendment rights, gun safety and immigration. That's not why I made my decision. Political

00:44:36.300 narratives and policies matter, but they don't, but they didn't govern my choice. And then it goes

00:44:41.280 on to talk about how, you know, things can happen while you're the president. What really matters is,

00:44:46.160 you know, are you able to lead? Is she leading right now? Uh, general McChrystal, is she, is she

00:44:50.620 taking the helm right now as how many States are underwater and people are suffering? No, she's eating

00:44:57.680 duck, egg roll, lobster roll, crab cakes, and beef Wellington with Jessica Alba and Sterling Brown and

00:45:06.060 Demi Lovato, because that's, what's important to her to be popular with the cool kids out in LA. Um,

00:45:13.240 and he, and he knows that Megan. I mean, you remember that he had the stellar ascendant career

00:45:18.940 in Afghanistan. He had done so well in Iraq. Afghanistan was a mess. That was the Obama

00:45:24.520 administration told us that Iraq was the bad war. Afghanistan was a good war. And then the

00:45:29.580 Afghanistan went South. So they brought McChrystal over and thought he can work the same magic. And he

00:45:35.560 very naively let a Rolling Stone reporter, uh, reporter, left wing flack be embedded in his inner

00:45:43.040 staff. And that guy reported that when Joe Biden, his vice president called McChrystal, he said to a,

00:45:49.520 a, it's Joe bite me. Do you remember that? And all of a sudden people said he disparaged. And it was

00:45:55.860 very ironic because he disparaged in a public setting, the vice president of the United States. So they,

00:46:02.280 they removed him from command that was in, he was done for. He went back to Washington. Obama said, did you

00:46:08.620 say Joe bite me? And he, he admitted and they got rid of him, which is so ironic when he, during he

00:46:15.940 called Joe, I think I'm quoting from memory, but I know that he said that Donald Trump could not tell

00:46:20.760 the truth and he attacked him publicly in 2000. I think it was 2019 or 20. So he, he, he's been

00:46:29.820 traumatized by the left. He really has. They treated him very badly. He, he was taken in by a reporter.

00:46:35.940 He let the reporter listen to his innermost conversations. A reporter wrote a very damaging

00:46:41.380 article, which I thought was very unfair to him. Uh, I thought Obama really hurt our cause in

00:46:46.740 Afghanistan by, by depriving them of his talents. And I think he learned his lesson. Do not cross

00:46:52.920 the left under any circumstances. It's a career. It's a career. And in the New York times, he could

00:46:59.020 be a Republican who's a never Trumper. I mean, and has TDS. I don't know, but to say that policies are

00:47:03.580 irrelevant. Okay. Tell it to the girls who are going to get cut up. Uh, thanks to the policies of this

00:47:09.320 administration, tell it to the little girls who are going to have permanent brain damage from the

00:47:12.780 male volleyball players. We're going to slam them in the face. We'll get to Boise state,

00:47:16.620 which just said, we're not going to be on that list. We're not playing against a team that has a

00:47:20.880 male on it. Uh, policies do matter general. And honestly, I just refuse to believe you're too stupid

00:47:26.940 to know that you've just become a partisan hack, or you found a way to line your own pockets by saying

00:47:33.360 the quote, correct things. And, um, we see through you. It's somewhat infuriating. Victor,

00:47:39.080 I want to get to Kamala Harris and some of her latest word salad, because we get a little window

00:47:45.840 into who she actually is here and there every other day. Now she's doing these minor interviews

00:47:51.940 here or there, you know, she did the one with Stephanie rule. She was not good. She had done

00:47:56.840 the one with Dana, Dana bash, not good. And now she spoke with Jessica Alba, one of the stars I

00:48:04.320 mentioned, um, about the economy. And she spoke with these guys from the NBA on the, all the smoke

00:48:12.260 podcast. And, um, okay. See if you remember, see if what she said to the, all the smoke guys

00:48:18.760 brings up anything. If it reminds you of anything else she said in a recent interview, stop one.

00:48:24.540 But these are things about building what I call an opportunity economy, which is about

00:48:28.660 helping people, not just to get by, but to get ahead. Cause most people look here. Maybe you've

00:48:36.380 gathered this already. Here's where I come from. Most people have ambition. Oh God. They have

00:48:42.460 aspirations. They have dreams and they are willing to work hard. And if we give people the opportunity

00:48:50.840 to actually meet those goals, they jump for it every time, but not everybody starts out from the

00:48:58.400 same place in terms of having the opportunity to just get in there. Just so you don't have to work

00:49:04.460 for it. Sot too. Watch. A refresher. Having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions.

00:49:12.620 If you have, Stephanie rule, the dreams and the ambitions and the aspirations of what I believe

00:49:21.820 you do, what I know to be the spirit and character of the American people. We have ambition. We have

00:49:27.620 aspirations. We have dreams. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American

00:49:34.220 people. Ambition is a good thing. Yeah. Dream with ambition. Yeah. And we will applaud it.

00:49:40.340 I think ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has access to the

00:49:47.780 resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambitions. Dream with the ambition. It doesn't

00:49:53.820 matter what state you reside in. It doesn't matter if you live in the suburbs or if your home is in a

00:49:57.800 rural area. Bidenomics has had a negative effect on many aspects of our lives. Gas has gone up an insane

00:50:04.440 51%. Rent is up 22%. Groceries are up 22% higher than before Mr. Biden took office. Electricity is

00:50:12.680 up a whopping 32%. Some Americans are having to make tough choices now. Do they pay to fill up their gas

00:50:19.000 tanks to get to work or do they buy their kids new school supplies? Did they pay to heat and cooler

00:50:23.800 homes or do they buy groceries for their family? These are the very real problems Bidenomics has caused.

00:50:29.580 And that's why Club for Growth is fighting for pro-growth policies that can allow our economy

00:50:34.660 to flourish. Text GROW to 60967 to learn more. Again, that's GROW to 60967.

00:50:46.360 Dream with ambition now, Victor. Don't just dream. Dream with ambition and maybe an aspiration

00:50:54.200 and some work ethic. So Megan, why does she do this? That's my question. She does it every single

00:51:00.940 interview and she's not stupid. And she does, I kid around and maybe I've said she has a vocabulary

00:51:07.460 of 500 words, but I think they give her these prep books and she just is intellectually lazy. She

00:51:14.540 doesn't even read them. She doesn't even spend any time. And the idea is that I think I've been so

00:51:20.420 nurtured my entire life of being given things, whether it was from Willie Brown to start out or

00:51:26.000 the media, that the media will never cross me. And she's right. Because when you look at the

00:51:30.480 iteration from the first Philadelphia interview, she did, well, the debate, the moderators really

00:51:36.720 helped her in the debate. And then she did the Philadelphia and that was a softball. Then she

00:51:40.700 went to Dana Bash. She really offered multiple choice answers for her. Then she went to the Association

00:51:46.160 of Black Journalists. They were baffled. They thought, wow, she kind of left in the huff. We

00:51:51.000 did everything we could and she still failed. And then we went to Oprah and that was a disaster.

00:51:58.640 And then we went to Stephanie Ruhle and that was a disaster. And what I'm trying to make the point is

00:52:02.700 each interviewer knew that the prior one had been criticized for doing T-ball interviews. And yet they

00:52:10.720 they tried to outdo the other one. In other words, they were saying to themselves,

00:52:14.360 that person debased themselves by being a propagandist and trying to help her and still

00:52:21.760 couldn't help her. And therefore, I'm going to be a greater propagandist and help her even more.

00:52:27.140 And I'll be famous for the one person that made her look good. And that was, it just got,

00:52:31.000 it increased and spiraled. But they all knew what they were doing and it didn't bother them.

00:52:35.440 So, and her reaction to all that is, I am just going to wing it. I'm not going to pick up a

00:52:41.260 prep book. I'm not going to look at policy. I don't give interviews. I don't do town halls. I

00:52:46.720 don't do press conference. I don't have to. So I don't even want to know the data about my economic

00:52:52.140 plan. I don't care. You know, a normal candidate, Megan would say, okay, I said I'm for wage and price

00:52:58.920 controls. Tell me the date that I'm going to start. And what I'm going to say when they say,

00:53:02.580 why don't you start now? What is the date? And how am I going to implement it? Is it going to be

00:53:06.600 nationwide? I'm going to turn it over to the States. And here's the possible questions I'm

00:53:11.300 going to get. And I'm going to, they don't do that with her. I think they just give up. And they say,

00:53:16.220 if you try to prep her with the details, she'd get angry because she doesn't want to do it. And

00:53:20.880 she doesn't need to. And they're right. She doesn't. Here's evidence of your theory. Okay. I've got a

00:53:26.060 point for you. Last week, this audience knows I was harping on her for the exchange with Stephanie

00:53:31.540 Rule in which Stephanie Rule said, and, and one of the things to help increase the housing has to

00:53:35.520 be dealing with the red tape. And Kamala Harris was like, yes, the red tape. We have to deal with

00:53:40.980 the red tape. Absolutely. By creating incentives, incentives in the federal government with the

00:53:45.840 state and the local and the community and incentives and holistically, it has to be holistic

00:53:51.340 around certain incentives, holistic. Oh, and transit, transit and holistic transit,

00:53:58.460 holistic incentives. And we laughed at this inanity. But then I went back and I found that it was her

00:54:05.180 economic speech prior to this interview where she raised the issue of too much red tape. So it was

00:54:10.420 total fair game by Stephanie Rule to bring up something she had, she had brought up herself.

00:54:15.720 And the only way she could explain it when then asked, could you explain what you just said

00:54:20.060 was to in passing in about the course of a thousand words to throw in the word transit.

00:54:24.900 So then we went back further after the show and we actually looked on the Biden Harris website right

00:54:32.820 now. And on the Biden Harris website, there is a proposal to try to stimulate more housing

00:54:39.100 development. And there is a piece around transit and it goes on for paragraphs and a studious,

00:54:46.240 caring, thoughtful candidate might have read that, committed it to memory, figured out how that

00:54:51.820 actually works and how it could help stimulate. But she is not that person. All she was able to do

00:54:57.420 was say holistically four times and squeeze in the word transit when she heard the words red tape.

00:55:05.000 She's not a thoughtful person. And I have to disagree with you, VDH. I do not think she's an

00:55:09.940 intelligent person. Well, I didn't say she's not. I didn't. What I meant was she's not, as Donald Trump

00:55:16.240 said, he said that, I thought that, I mean, that's counterproductive when he said she was

00:55:21.020 mentally impaired. That was, I think. He may not be the one to say it, but I have said it and I

00:55:27.720 believe it. Well, what I'm telling you is that when Bill Clinton prepared, they gave him prep books

00:55:38.220 and policy binders and he went through, he memorized them in like an hour. When Barack Obama did,

00:55:43.980 he could do it too. And they exist. And she hasn't cunning about her. She's cunning. She knows

00:55:52.100 how to do the photo ops, but it wouldn't take. So what she does is from reports is that when she

00:55:58.700 has these disastrous, she gets angry and she fires her staff. She blames her staff. But the whole point

00:56:04.800 I'm making is she doesn't want to read anything. She doesn't have to. She's never had to. She never

00:56:11.080 did as vice president. And when she does, remember the space thing, she had actors that little kids

00:56:16.760 that were actors. And she does that. She goes into a, she goes into a store to buy pretzels and it's

00:56:22.140 all been rehearsed. She has act. It's that's, it's kind of like an athlete that never lifts weights or

00:56:28.600 never runs. And they're flabby. It doesn't mean they didn't have some ability, but they don't have to

00:56:33.420 do anything. She's been coddled her entire life of privilege. And her idea is all I have to do is say,

00:56:40.580 I'm middle-class, I'm black, I'm a woman, and I'm left-wing. And I can raise a lot of money

00:56:47.620 and laugh and be personable and kind of flirt, bat my eyes, grin, whatever. And she's gotten by with

00:56:55.080 that. And that's why, remember, she was, I think we keep forgetting, she was Joe Biden's Spiro Agnew

00:57:03.840 insurance policy. It was almost like 48 hours before, before he quit. They said, he will never

00:57:10.140 quit. You cannot put her in there. We know her. They were leaking that. You remember that, you know

00:57:14.560 better than I do. They were leaking it to journalists like you, that she's totally lazy.

00:57:19.240 She's an app. She'll never be able to do it. And then all of a sudden she became Cicero or Socrates

00:57:25.560 and it doesn't work because she won't, she won't do, she won't. I do believe she has the ability to

00:57:32.180 memorize 10 talking points. I really do. Yeah. We saw that at the debate, but you're right on the

00:57:37.700 actress front because that's what I see as well. I see somebody who is acting the role of a presidential

00:57:43.480 candidate, acting what she thinks is the role of a vice president. And we see it over and over.

00:57:48.300 So that's why, that's why one of the things that's, that is so galling about the hopes and dreams and

00:57:53.840 optimism is how she acts through it each time. It'd be one thing if she said, look, I believe people are

00:58:02.500 losing hope and that they shouldn't because this should be a country of people who have aspirations

00:58:08.140 and ambitions and dreams. And that I could actually stomach that it's her affect around it. Her fake

00:58:15.800 affectation with the hands and the gestures and the attempt to look like she's just come up with this

00:58:24.340 deeply profound inspo for the kids. And I said this last week with Maureen Callahan last Friday,

00:58:31.740 two Fridays ago, where I was upset about her weird verbal tick of right, right. After she does one of

00:58:40.900 these fake profundities, she often tags on, you know, or right. And she did it again. And my team,

00:58:48.940 because they like to torture me and I like to torture you, VDH has cued it up. Here she is in

00:58:54.680 that talk with Jessica Alba, which actually has it all. Take a listen to SOT3. First of all,

00:59:01.340 Latina small businesses are the fastest growing in the country. Yes, they are. Right, right. Yes,

00:59:05.640 they are. But included in that is that we don't lack for people who have ambition and have aspirations

00:59:13.680 and dreams and an idea that is a great idea and work ethic. But not everybody has access to the

00:59:22.880 capital. So true. And I believe strongly that our small businesses are the backbone of America's

00:59:28.200 economy. So when we grow and strengthen small businesses, we all benefit. Okay. I can't. It's

00:59:37.480 too much. It worked with Willie Brown. It worked with the San Francisco donor class. It worked for

00:59:47.880 everybody. I've watched her for years. It worked. She goes down to Hollywood and she does the therapeutic

00:59:52.700 two minutes and they open their checkbooks and they think she's, she's not toxic. And who could

00:59:59.960 dislike that? And the only question we have, Megan, is that we're down to in the 30 days or 38. I don't

01:00:06.840 know how many today, 37. And can she do this for over a 90 day period? She can, she can do it. She

01:00:14.320 can wait just on this front before we hear, here she is because look, we pull a little montage.

01:00:18.480 This is part of her routine, the aspirations. And then I showed you the, but like the right thing

01:00:23.040 is a verbal tick. This she can do. I don't know if she can maintain like discipline, but she's done

01:00:27.460 it so far. Look at this top four. And this movement that we're in about, as I like to say,

01:00:33.920 seeing in the face of a stranger, a neighbor. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Just being able to, to know that

01:00:41.560 their hard work allows them to get ahead, right? The beauty of a democracy is each of us has the

01:00:48.640 power. Each of us has the power. That's right. That's right. To answer that question. That's

01:00:52.600 right. Everybody on the significance of the passage of time, right? Oh God. The significance

01:00:57.540 of the passage of time. So I felt a great responsibility. Mm-hmm. And, um, and the incredible

01:01:06.560 power of the people, right? And you know, I got some Madison cred, right?

01:01:14.760 That's a business in a teeny tiny business. It's a concept of a business, right?

01:01:20.900 I can't. So, so what if Oprah had said, uh, well, let's say, what if Stephanie Rule had said,

01:01:28.200 instead of you, you, did you flip burgers? What if she said, you know, this is kind of a

01:01:33.560 trivially issue, but it's become very important because it's a question of Rossi. Could you just

01:01:38.480 set the record straight and tell us now where you worked at McDonald's and what year you did?

01:01:44.480 Just tell us the McDonald's location, but she knew they were going to answer. Yeah. That would have

01:01:49.860 blown up the whole thing because she couldn't do it. And if Oprah had have just said, instead of yeah,

01:01:54.460 yeah, yeah. If she just said, when you say, uh, you're, you want to help people and you want to give

01:02:01.420 equity, what do you mean? How do you do it? Which program do you want? Do you want to do it through

01:02:05.880 HHS? Do you want to do it department of labor? What is the program? Can you just give us 10 detail?

01:02:11.940 And they know that she, she knows they're not going to ask that, but if they did,

01:02:15.400 and that's why she'll never, she'll never go down, uh, during, you know, the, the, the hurricane or

01:02:22.140 talk to somebody impromptu, or when she was talking to those border people, you really didn't get

01:02:27.100 a microphone in there. Cause they weren't going to ask her cause she can't do that. And they can't

01:02:32.920 do that because she's never had to do it. And, you know, I think we all have met people like that,

01:02:37.960 that are complete constructs. They're just empty zombies. I mean, they're just,

01:02:43.160 well, and it wouldn't be that bad if, if this were somebody who did have strong policies and we could

01:02:49.700 see on the books, okay, this is a serious person. Maybe she's not that charismatic. Maybe she thinks

01:02:55.200 she's more profound than she is, whatever. But this is all they're selling to us is this airbag.

01:03:01.560 And we're supposed to accept this as the thing, like McChrystal said, you know, this is the

01:03:07.440 character, the hopes and the ambitions and the work ethic and right. That's why we get so angry

01:03:13.520 about it because we're watching a train go over the cliff and you can't, you know, what's going to

01:03:17.780 happen. And you, you keep wondering if somebody is going to apply the brakes and say, this is a

01:03:22.580 fraud. She's insulting the collective intelligence, everything she said about Afghanistan. She was

01:03:29.340 the last, she bragged that she was the last person in on that decision. We, she said she wanted to ban

01:03:34.840 fracking, not just once, but emphatically 10 times. Don't believe her. Don't believe her on the border.

01:03:40.420 Don't believe her on crime. Don't believe her on any of these things. And yet it's all a massive fraud.

01:03:48.240 I mean, it's truly committed on us. And even if you look at what happens, they get Tim Walz and they

01:03:54.820 want us to believe he's this down home folksy guy. They get her husband, Doug Emhoff. And they want us

01:04:00.580 to believe that this man who cheated on his first wife and impregnated the nanny, they either aborted

01:04:07.440 the child or he abandoned the child. Neither one is good. But when he sits down with the Jen Psaki's of

01:04:14.500 the world on MSNBC, if you're going to go there, then go there into what kind of a man and husband

01:04:20.040 he is. You don't have to ask him what kind of a husband he is. You can, you can ask him something

01:04:23.960 else if you want, but if you're going to talk about what kind of a husband he is that you're

01:04:26.760 going to have to go there. Instead, this is what we got when he sat down with her over the weekend

01:04:30.740 and stopped 15. An interesting part of how people have talked about your role here is how your role

01:04:36.360 has reshaped the perception of masculinity. And I'm not sure you planned on that, but you are a

01:04:41.840 incredibly supportive spouse. Has that been an evolution for you? And do you think that's

01:04:46.060 part of the role you might play as first gentleman? It's funny. I've started to think

01:04:52.180 a lot about this. I've always been like this. My dad was like this. And to me, it's the right thing

01:04:58.160 to do, you know, support women. When we lift up women, we support women, whether it's pay equity,

01:05:04.840 child care, family leave, and all these issues that, you know, this post-Dobbs hellscape,

01:05:11.340 women should not be less than. There's a pop culture phrase, wife guy, which you've kind of

01:05:16.800 been known as. Are you familiar with this? I've heard about it. As called a wife guy,

01:05:20.760 a proud wife guy. How do you feel about that? Well, if I do something annoying to Kamala and she

01:05:25.920 gets upset, I'll just show her that article. A victor. Wow. A wife guy. That was the former press

01:05:32.620 secretary. I know it. I mean, they're trying, they put Donald Trump, basically, they're trying

01:05:37.360 to put him in jail, Alvin Bragg, because it all started with Stormy Daniels. And they use Stormy

01:05:42.620 Daniels everywhere. But if that was true, and you have a one-time tryst with a porno star, it's pretty

01:05:51.160 bad. But you're going to criminalize that and use that to embarrass him and criminalize. And this guy

01:05:57.700 brings in a woman into his own home and he's hired her. And it's a power imbalance, as the left always

01:06:05.840 warns us about. And then they're so strong about abortion, they're telling everybody to get abortion,

01:06:12.580 but they don't want to tell us whether she was forced to have an abortion or not. They should

01:06:17.360 be bragging about it according to their own doctor. You're a wife guy. If by that you mean

01:06:21.840 you like to bang the nanny when the wife's not looking, sure, you're a wife guy. I like to

01:06:27.280 support women. How do you support her? By aborting the child that you had outside of wedlock with the

01:06:32.500 nanny? Is that supportive? Was the baby a girl? Because that's not so supportive to that little

01:06:37.380 girl. It blew up at Arnold Schwarzenegger. As soon as he came out of office, it was kind of like in

01:06:43.600 California. His wife knew about it, but kept it quiet. As soon as they announced it, everything blew up

01:06:49.760 for him. Everybody thought he was a cad. He was a scoundrel. This woman was in his own house. He

01:06:57.220 used the own bed. He lied about it. He had an illegitimate child he never took. But then he

01:07:02.420 kind of manned up to it. He said, yes, I did this and I'm supporting them. And he kind of recovered a

01:07:08.720 little bit, but he hasn't told us anything. And they don't want to find out anything.

01:07:13.520 But Victor, think of the journalistic dereliction. You have Doug Emhoff. Maybe

01:07:19.500 you're going to ask him, what's her vision for X? What's her vision for Y? Okay, maybe you're just

01:07:24.080 going to use him as like a policy surrogate. But if you decide to go to the what kind of husband

01:07:30.460 Doug Emhoff is place, and then you're that fawning, you've humiliated yourself. I can't believe someone

01:07:40.900 didn't say, Jen, Jen, let's not go there. He banged the nanny and got her pregnant on the first wife.

01:07:47.800 There may or may not have been an abortion or an abandoned child. One of those two things did

01:07:52.420 happen, even according to him. Let's maybe not make him into the second coming. Okay. But this

01:07:59.940 is par for the course for Jen Psaki. We put together just a few examples of her very tough,

01:08:05.260 hard-hitting questions. Watch.

01:08:07.920 You've also been front and center in talking about abortion rights. Why do you think that's so

01:08:12.140 important? Do you think he's scared of debating her?

01:08:13.940 The other thing I have been thinking about a lot is how it must be for you when you see people

01:08:19.700 attacking your wife. What do you guys do when you have downtime? Now, she's a great cook,

01:08:24.600 loves to cook. You've said she's tried to teach you to cook. What can you cook now that she taught

01:08:30.340 you? And you also passed on advice to Gwen Walls. What did you pass along to her?

01:08:35.320 No one cares. Let me run me around back to what was in the first question.

01:08:40.140 You've redefined masculinity. This is such an insult to American men that they would tee this

01:08:47.660 guy up and say, this is the new definition of masculinity. I am insulted, Victor, to suggest

01:08:53.740 that a man who behaved like that, right, who behaved like that. And also that it's, what is

01:08:59.540 it? There is something wrong with a man being in a more traditional man role that's not only

01:09:06.460 supportive of the wife. Most men can be alphas and supportive of their wives.

01:09:10.700 But, I mean, there is another element of math. I was embedded twice in Iraq. And when I saw,

01:09:19.940 I was on a Blackhawk once, and I was sitting next to a guy, and we were flying at night.

01:09:24.200 And he was 18 years old from the Middle West. And he had a 50-color machine gun, and there was no

01:09:31.120 cover or anything. And I asked him when we landed, I said, you do this every day? He said, I do it

01:09:36.360 every day. I said, you get shot at all the time. I said, you have to avoid things. Yeah, people build

01:09:41.840 cell phone towers. They don't tell us. It's dangerous at night. That's an element of masculinity.

01:09:49.620 And, you know, I just put a roof on my home, and I looked up, and there's a guy named Jose,

01:09:55.140 and he had 45 pounds of shingles on his back. And he was tiptoeing across an old Victorian farmhouse,

01:10:03.540 35 feet above the ground, like he was a ballet dancer with all this weight when it was about 100.

01:10:09.340 That's masculine. And yet, we're supposed to tell us that everything that we've associated with

01:10:14.240 courage, and physicality, and muscularity, and danger, that's out the window. Because this is a

01:10:20.720 new type of masculine. If it's a new type of masculinity, then he would say, look, I screwed up.

01:10:27.560 I had an affair with my nanny, and it was bad, and I regret it. And I took the following measures,

01:10:33.520 to rectify it. And you can ask me anything you want, and that's masculinity. And he didn't do

01:10:39.620 that. And so what I get really upset is that, you know, what's masculinity is be a border patrol guy

01:10:47.160 and get no credit, and go down there every day, and you have no idea who you're going to encounter.

01:10:53.720 You don't know if they're a murderer, a rapist, a drug, you don't know if they've got a cartel hit

01:10:58.360 out on you. Yes. And they do it every day. And yet, we don't acknowledge that type of masculinity.

01:11:05.460 We shame them.

01:11:06.380 And we got this idea that, you know, we have a big problem when we have 60% of all VAs are given

01:11:12.580 to women. And there's been article after article about the so-called male is living at home. He's

01:11:19.560 prolonged marriage, dating, children, home buying into the 30s. He's just directionless. I think part of

01:11:26.440 it is that we have talked about the new masculinity and not the old masculine said, you know what,

01:11:32.420 you're 18 now, you're an adult, and you're going to have to go, someday you're going to get married

01:11:38.040 and support a family and buy a house and stay up late and take a second job. That is what a man is

01:11:43.740 supposed to do. And but we've so deprecated it and emasculated it. And so when I look at Walt's,

01:11:50.440 and he and Kamala's husband are supposed to be the new sign of masculinity, and we're all supposed

01:11:56.740 to vote for that. I think that's one of the reasons that a lot of people, especially the

01:12:00.940 Mexican American community, a lot of African American males, they don't buy that. And a lot

01:12:06.360 of working class whites don't buy that. They want to say there's a lot of men out there that get up

01:12:12.000 every day and do very dirty, hazardous jobs. And they don't get much compensation. They don't get

01:12:18.400 much recognition, but they are very masculine in the way they do it professionally. And they take

01:12:23.520 care of their families and friends. And, and so I really get this. I hate this elite condensation.

01:12:29.460 They're so condescending. Oh, yeah, we've kind of got a new masculinity. She taught me how to

01:12:34.380 and then they're hypocrites. They're hypocrites. You know, all men have I don't know anybody in my own

01:12:40.980 circle. I know a lot of people, none of us are perfect. But I don't know any man that said he was

01:12:45.520 masculine because he and then impregnated a woman who came in to take care of his children and the

01:12:50.960 inner, the inner sanctum of his own home and then tried to hide it, tried to hide it.

01:12:56.360 That's the new definition of masculinity. I don't want any part of it.

01:13:00.560 Yeah, same. All right. Two other things before I let you go. Tomorrow night is the vice presidential

01:13:07.900 debate. I, for one, cannot wait. I'm very excited to watch this. Right. It starts at 9 p.m. It's on CBS.

01:13:15.140 Although, is this one Steve Krakauer where we're going to be able to watch it everywhere? I imagine

01:13:19.940 it is. Yeah, you can watch it anywhere like they did with the presidential debates, which is good.

01:13:26.320 Here's the deal. CNN got an expectation setting dump from Team Walls. And that's exactly what this is.

01:13:36.460 The headline is, heading into the vice presidential debate, Tim Walls is fighting nerves. He's nervous,

01:13:42.720 you see, Victor. They spoke to, quote, close to a dozen top campaign staffers. So basically,

01:13:51.280 they sent the entire team to go talk to CNN about how Tim Walls is doing. And you see how he's doing

01:13:57.300 is he's constantly coming back to how worried he is about letting Kamala Harris down. He doesn't want

01:14:04.200 Harris to think she made the wrong choice. He fears he won't make his case as well as he needs to.

01:14:10.960 Um, his digs at Vance are a glimpse into his anxiety. He feels genuine contempt for and confusion

01:14:22.660 over what he views as Vance's abandonment of their common roots. You see, Vance abandoned their common

01:14:30.580 roots by getting himself into Yale Law School. And this is not to be forgiven. And he feels genuine

01:14:36.560 contempt for Vance for doing that and for flipping so many of his positions to fit Trump.

01:14:43.280 He, uh, the digs he takes at Vance by saying he didn't know many Midwesterners who went to Yale are

01:14:48.700 a glimpse into his anxiety that his opponent learned to be a sharp debater there at Yale. According to

01:14:58.100 those who knows, no walls, you see, he's attacking Vance's Midwestern roots and then progression to Yale

01:15:04.940 because he's anxious that he learned to be a sharp debater there. It's not because he's a mean, petty,

01:15:12.520 nasty, divisive person. Um, they go on to say his aides insist this isn't just about setting expectations.

01:15:21.600 He's just not a lawyer debater type. According to Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar, it's not like he

01:15:29.340 was dreaming of debates when he was in first grade. Neither was JD Vance. He was in a home being abused

01:15:37.320 physically and emotionally in sheer abject poverty, Amy. So I think you have him confused with chief

01:15:45.740 justice, John Roberts, who was born in the cradle with a little black robe on, but that's not JD Vance's

01:15:50.540 story. All of this is trying to set the stage for us to think that walls is in the fetal position.

01:15:56.140 So when he comes out tomorrow night swinging, we're going to be oohing and eyeing.

01:16:01.280 Uh, he's going to need it. Uh, I, I had apprehensions about Donald Trump because the first debate with

01:16:06.360 Biden, he was kind of a spectator when Biden kind of somebody threw water on Biden, like the

01:16:12.420 wizard of Oz, which, and he just melted as they watched. And, and by, I don't think Trump really

01:16:17.740 prompted that. And then I thought when Trump gets into the next debate, the moderators are going to

01:16:22.480 be biased and they're going to bait him and bait him and bait him on things he's very sensitive about.

01:16:26.660 And they did, even though he, I thought he did pretty well, but I had some reservations. I don't

01:16:31.260 have any reservations. I've talked to in my past. I don't know him well, but I've talked to him a few

01:16:36.060 times. I think that he is one of the most skilled conversationalists. And I don't know if you'd call

01:16:43.400 him a debater, but when he goes on and meets the media, he's very, very good. And Tim Waltz has

01:16:49.620 talked about Donald Trump being a coward and these people are cowards and they're not really, uh, good

01:16:55.580 people. He's going to have his water. I really do think because he's going to be on there and all of

01:17:00.900 the biased, uh, CBS moderators in the world are not going to be able to help him because he is a

01:17:07.140 buffoon and a blowhard. And I think, uh, if J.D. Vance performs like he usually does, I don't even

01:17:14.720 think it's performing. He's just, he's just somebody who's naturally very skilled and bright

01:17:19.860 and repartee. And I think they're terrified. And I think the moderators are going to be

01:17:25.080 shamelessly biased. I think Walsh is going to call him. He's going to quote everything that, uh,

01:17:31.140 J.D. had said about, uh, Trump when he opposed him in 2015 dash 16. I think he's going to call,

01:17:38.700 he's going to cat lady, this cat lady, that, and it's not going to have any effect at all. Megan,

01:17:44.120 it's not going to help. And they're saying that, um, that they're going, she's going to try to bring

01:17:48.620 up, they, Tim Walz may try to bring up a line that CNN reports Kamala Harris was preparing to use

01:17:55.820 when she was still in the veep role and thought she would have to debate to get Joe Biden,

01:18:00.880 reelected as president, uh, asking Vance, what promises he made to Trump so that the former

01:18:06.740 president president would not send an angry mob after him with a gallows like Mike Pence experienced

01:18:13.540 on January 6th. Interesting. I will say last time around before the presidential debate on, um, ABC,

01:18:19.760 they dropped a piece like this and they made promises like this, like line by line and they did

01:18:24.620 them. So J.D. Vance should read this piece because they actually did use the exact lines that they had,

01:18:30.180 you know, sort of fronted in the media. There's one, there's one interesting piece in here too,

01:18:35.480 just before I let you go, where they do reveal CNN does that the vice president staff, this is the

01:18:40.600 reason J.D., uh, Tim Walz was everywhere before he was chosen and has given no interviews, you know,

01:18:47.420 since then, other than the one he did with her, the vice president staff, meaning Kamala Harris's staff

01:18:51.800 does not want a contrast that would highlight how few unscripted events she's done.

01:18:58.260 Yeah. Well, it's, he's a force multiplier of her avoidance. He can't, and it's not just that she

01:19:04.060 doesn't want him to speak. He doesn't want to speak because he's not very good at it. He's blustering.

01:19:09.300 He's buffoonish. He's hyper kinetic. He doesn't come down well with people. He doesn't come across

01:19:15.180 well. And this could be far more important than most, most vice presidents of debates are

01:19:20.900 inconsequential. But when you have the top of the ticket who will not debate very, I mean, doesn't

01:19:26.480 only debate in a favorable for no conferences, no, uh, town halls, no unscripted rallies, nothing like

01:19:34.420 that. Then you turn attention to somebody because there's no Biden. Uh, the president is not there

01:19:40.700 anymore. The vice president is avoiding. So maybe the third guy, the future vice president might be

01:19:46.760 able to talk. So there's going to be a lot of attention that usually isn't a court of this

01:19:50.060 debate. And I think that, uh, they're, they're paranoid and they can call JD Vance everything

01:19:55.660 they want, but, uh, he's not just a, he is a very skilled Yale lawyer and he has a lot of experiences

01:20:03.000 in the military and finance, but ultimately he's very, he's naturally bright and well-spoken. He's a

01:20:08.780 wonderful writer. And, uh, I think they feel that this is something they'd whether or not do.

01:20:16.220 Mm-hmm. Oh, I can't wait. And I look forward to speaking with you and listening to you

01:20:19.900 thereafter. My friend, thank you so much for being on as always.

01:20:23.200 Thank you for having me.

01:20:25.560 Uh, okay. So we're going to take a break, but before we do, I want to tell you something. Um,

01:20:29.760 I didn't watch Saturday Night Live. I don't watch Saturday Night Live. And, um, but I did watch the

01:20:36.540 cold open, which was circulated online and it was, um, all over the place on, on X. And so I watched

01:20:43.480 the 13 minutes. And can I tell you for the first time in years, it was funny. They poked fun at

01:20:48.820 Kamala Harris and at Trump. Um, I actually don't know who they have doing Trump, but he wasn't funny

01:20:54.320 and he was, it wasn't a good Trump. I'm sorry. I mean, the Trump is so like, he's iconic. You can't

01:21:00.120 settle for less there. You got to get somebody who can just nail the Trump imitation. They didn't.

01:21:04.520 So that wasn't good, but the Kamala Harris was good by Maya Rudolph. And the best part was they

01:21:09.920 brought Dana Carvey out there to do Joe Biden and he nailed it. And the guy they had played Tim

01:21:16.980 Walls. I laughed out loud when they had him walk on stage as Tim Walls with all the weird jerky arm

01:21:23.240 movements. Watch this.

01:21:24.460 See, my campaign is like the Sabrina Carpenter song, Espresso. The lyrics are vague, but the vibe

01:21:32.560 slaps. Come on out here, Coach Walls.

01:21:40.340 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

01:21:43.780 I've heard what the right says about me just because I'm unapologetic about being a man

01:21:49.140 supporting his wife. Oh, he's a beta. A wife guy.

01:21:53.520 J.D. Vance. People are saying he was a bad pick and in many ways he was.

01:21:59.160 J.D., come on up.

01:22:01.600 Back to President Trump. Thank you.

01:22:07.420 Okay.

01:22:08.540 Well, folks, we still got work to do. No joke.

01:22:12.020 I'm being serious right now. Come on.

01:22:13.940 Guess what? And by the way, the fact of the matter is, the Ricky don't pay their fair share.

01:22:26.700 Hey there.

01:22:29.900 Is that nice?

01:22:31.100 Yeah, it's really good.

01:22:33.080 Okay.

01:22:34.760 Hi there. Okay.

01:22:35.920 How did I get back here?

01:22:37.580 Okay. That was actually well done. So kudos to them for making an effort.

01:22:42.200 Uh, maybe they're watching the numbers of Greg Gutfeld and actually getting scared over there

01:22:47.340 and understanding that comedy, truly great political comedy, uh, has no sacred cows and

01:22:53.940 will take shots at both sides. All right. We're going to come right back with the guys from the

01:22:59.020 Daily Wires Crane and Company to talk about what's happening in the WNBA with this one player

01:23:08.100 clearly launching an attack on Caitlin Clark, which now she denies. And the whole WNBA turning

01:23:15.620 on the reporter who deigned to ask about it. We got to talk about this. It's a great story. It's

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01:25:26.700 We're turning to the topic of Caitlin Clark, WNBA star and reportedly rookie of the year.

01:25:34.080 Joining me now, Blaine Crane, Jake Crane, and David Cohn. They're hosts of The Daily Wire's

01:25:38.320 sports show, Crane & Company. Guys, welcome back. Good to see you. So this is leaked. The WNBA

01:25:44.800 hasn't officially announced who the rookie of the year is, is my understanding, but it was nabbed.

01:25:51.320 I think of The Atlantic broke it. I'll correct myself if my team tells me I'm wrong. In any event,

01:25:55.860 she's obviously an incredible star. She's totally revitalized interest. Well, I mean,

01:26:01.520 vitalized interest in the WNBA in a way it never was before. And yet, since she's joined the league

01:26:08.320 she's been abused, she's been abused over and over again by these other players. And reportedly,

01:26:16.200 it's a race thing that, that many black women inside the WNBA are resentful that this white woman

01:26:23.460 came in and is getting all this attention. Nobody disputes that she's an amazing basketball player,

01:26:30.080 but still they seem resentful and angry toward her. And it's resulted in physical alterations on the

01:26:37.140 court that don't get called as fouls that the girls then deny were intentional. And Caitlin Clark

01:26:42.420 always takes the high road. She never, you know, points the finger, but it happened again where she

01:26:48.740 was playing, um, hold on. Cause you know, my audience knows, I don't know anything about sports.

01:26:53.500 I only know when it crosses into the news lane. Her team was playing the Connecticut Suns and the

01:26:59.220 player, uh, Dejane Carrington tried to get the ball from Caitlin. And at the end, Caitlin plays for the

01:27:07.320 Indiana fever at the end. It seems pretty obvious to me intentionally scratches Caitlin's eye with her

01:27:15.560 long fingernails. She denies it was intentional, but watch it. There it is. Hold on. So she goes for

01:27:21.260 the ball and then look, she points her hand down after the play, after the ball is past this player

01:27:28.000 from the sun. And it seems very clear. She bends her fingers into Caitlin's eyes. There it is. She

01:27:35.600 could pull her hand away. She didn't. She got in. Caitlin had a black eye and it was not called as a

01:27:43.500 foul. And then she was seen celebrating on the sideline and laughing with a teammate. Uh, all right.

01:27:49.140 So here's the other piece before I get to you guys, USA Today columnist, Christine Brennan,

01:27:53.760 who covers all sorts of sports, got a moment with this Connecticut Sun player, Dejane Carrington,

01:28:01.360 um, and asked her about it because that's what you do as a reporter. Watch this.

01:28:08.740 Dejane, um, did you, uh, when you went and, uh, kind of swatted at Caitlin, did you intend

01:28:15.900 to hit her in the eye? And if so, could you just, or if not, either way, could you talk

01:28:21.100 about what happened on that play? I just, I don't even know why I would intend to hit

01:28:26.260 anybody in the eye. That doesn't even make sense to me, but no, I didn't. I didn't know

01:28:30.100 I hit her actually. Um, I was trying to make a play on the ball and I guess I followed through

01:28:35.840 and I hit her. So obviously it's never intentional. That's not even like the type of player that I

01:28:39.980 am. Um, so yeah. Did you and Marina kind of laugh about it afterwards? It looked like

01:28:44.900 you, there was later on in the game, they caught you guys laughing about it.

01:28:48.360 No, I just told you, I didn't even know I hit her. So I can't laugh about something I

01:28:53.180 didn't know happened. Okay. Last thing I'm going to say is, um, all that was a lie. In

01:29:00.760 my opinion, Phil Houston, spy the lie guy would say all that. She had all the telltale signs

01:29:06.140 of lying. If you asked me, did you hit her intentionally? I'd say no, nope, I didn't. She

01:29:11.300 went right into convincing behavior. I didn't, I don't even know why I would intend to hit anybody

01:29:16.700 in the eye. That's what a bank robber says. A bank robber says, I'm an honest person. Why

01:29:21.840 would I ever rob a bank? I have money. I have a job. A truth teller says, no, I didn't rob the bank.

01:29:27.960 No, all of this convincing behavior and not a no and denial. This is obviously a liar and I don't

01:29:35.740 know this person, but as an outsider, I can. Anyway, now you guys, the WNBA is on the offense

01:29:40.420 against the reporter saying she's racist, suggesting she's racist. She doesn't deserve

01:29:47.480 her credentials and that she was trying to fuel racist, homophobic because the, um, the girl who

01:29:55.760 did the hitting, the Connecticut state player, Dejanay is a lesbian, racist, homophobic, and

01:30:01.740 misogynistic vitriol on social media. Okay. Lay it on me, Blaine, Jake, and David. What

01:30:06.740 do you make of it? Well, first off, Megan, thanks for having us. I mean, there's, you

01:30:11.280 know, so much to unpack here, but really it comes down to, to one main thing to me. It

01:30:15.840 looked, that looked intentional, right? Typically when somebody does get hit in the face or you're

01:30:19.580 trying to block something, you don't put your fingers down like that. Your hand swipes and

01:30:23.660 maybe your hand makes contact with their, their face. We'd see this in basketball all the

01:30:27.740 time. It's intentional foul. Somebody tries to block somebody shooting the layup and they

01:30:31.080 hit him in the back of the head or on the face. Uh, and that ends up being a flagrant

01:30:34.480 one or flagrant two, depending on how they call it. But I don't have as much of a problem

01:30:39.820 as the, with the intentional act because we've been watching this all year in the WNBA. It's

01:30:45.080 the fact that the reporter is not allowed to ask that question just in general, even if

01:30:50.120 this was the first time, but after a series of events where we've watched all season long

01:30:54.980 and into the post season, Kaitlin Clark get abused and taken out. I mean, even during

01:30:59.900 timeouts, people are intentionally walking into her, bumping into her, doing things mid

01:31:04.880 play and after the play. And if you don't know Christine Brennan, so woke, I don't know

01:31:08.900 how she ever sleeps. So this isn't exactly somebody coming from the daily wire or Fox Fox news.

01:31:14.880 So the fact that they're attacking her just shows you the WNBA continues to drop the ball

01:31:19.580 in this whole issue. They got given the greatest gift of all time. This rivalry between Angel

01:31:24.840 Reese and Kaitlin Clark. And you use the word vitalize because you're right. You can't revitalize

01:31:29.640 something that was never vitalized, but the WNBA has totally failed. And whether it's not putting

01:31:34.420 on the Olympic team, not using her in promotions, being hesitant to put her at the forefront of the

01:31:39.400 league. I think the WNBA has missed a huge opportunity. And the only reason, Megan, that

01:31:44.140 we're talking about it and you're talking about the WNBA is because of Kaitlin Clark.

01:31:49.260 Exactly right. Just to put some meat on those bones, via Forbes. Okay. They have

01:31:54.740 the highest audience they've seen in 24 seasons and the WNBA games. Televised games with Kaitlin

01:32:00.420 Clark's Indiana Fever averaged 1.18 million viewers compared to 394,000 for all other games.

01:32:07.600 There were a record 22 games that averaged over a million viewers, 19 of which involved

01:32:11.700 Kaitlin. So, I mean, you'd think they'd be saying thank you. They're not saying thank you,

01:32:17.460 Blaine.

01:32:17.680 No, they're not, which is surprising to me. We have to really see what the WNBA organization

01:32:23.360 is about and who they are and what they want to do. To me, this is controlling free speech.

01:32:28.540 This is what it is. You can get up there, whether you're Kaitlin Clark or whoever you

01:32:31.720 want to be and pander to whatever they want you to say. But I promise you, it will never

01:32:35.860 be good enough. And one way to control culture, right, is it's through sports and controlling

01:32:41.260 speech. So they will push this and kick this down the road as long as they have to until they

01:32:46.940 can control what is said there from reporters, what is said on X from Twitter, from Elon Musk,

01:32:51.620 until they can control every little thing. This kind of reminds me of Eminem when he got

01:32:56.820 into the rap game, right? You can talk all you want. You can do this. But sooner or later,

01:33:01.420 you have to respect somebody's game. And the way Kaitlin Clark plays basketball has to be

01:33:06.820 respected. And sooner or later, the dam is going to break. And the WNBA, what matters more,

01:33:12.540 money or your feelings? Because we can look around the league and see the same thing.

01:33:16.500 Luka Doncic dominating the NBA. Say what you want, but they respect him. There's no

01:33:21.300 respect to Kaitlin Clark. And it is blowing my mind. And sooner or later, it's going to cost the

01:33:25.880 WNBA everything. David, the executive director for the WNBA Players Association, a woman named

01:33:32.860 Terry Carmichael Jackson, who is hardcore woke, very big into the racial justice stuff, puts out this

01:33:39.780 ridiculous statement. To unprofessional members of the media like Christine Brennan, you are not fooling

01:33:44.800 anyone. That so-called interview in the name of journalism was a blatant attempt to bait a

01:33:48.880 professional athlete into participating in a narrative that is false and designed to fuel

01:33:53.940 racist, homophobic, and misogynistic vitriol on social media. You cannot hide behind your tenure.

01:33:59.100 What? That doesn't make sense. Instead of demonstrating the cornerstones of journalism

01:34:03.280 ethics like integrity, objectivity, and a fundamental commitment to truth, you've chosen to be indecent

01:34:10.480 and downright insincere. She asked a question trying to get at the truth. You've abused your

01:34:16.240 privileges. You do not deserve the credentials issued to you. And you certainly are not entitled

01:34:20.180 to any interviews with members of this union or any other athlete in sport. Those credentials mean

01:34:24.640 you can ask anything, but they also mean you know the difference between what you should and should

01:34:29.680 not. We see you. USA Today Sports should explain why a reporter with clear bias and ulterior motives

01:34:37.600 was assigned to cover the league. USA Today, to its credit, standing behind its journalist,

01:34:43.240 Christine Brennan, who also is as woke as they come, an open Trump hater, and has shown her politics

01:34:49.200 many times. There's some deliciousness, I mean, David, in seeing her on the wrong end of the woke

01:34:55.080 stick. But that statement from the WNBA is absurd. Absolutely absurd, ludicrous even. And the line that

01:35:02.940 sticks out to me is to say to even ask that question is an example of racist and homophobic and

01:35:08.940 misogynistic language. Now, Megan Kelly, you tell me how asking that question is an example of

01:35:14.100 homophobia because I would love to know. But nothing we're talking about is new. We've been

01:35:18.340 watching this all summer long. I don't know how many different ways an organization needs to explain

01:35:23.660 to an individual that they are not welcome. First off, we saw Caitlin Clark not make the Olympic team.

01:35:28.900 And the reason given was, well, she's just not one of the best players in the WNBA yet. Okay,

01:35:33.280 fine. But then she makes the playoffs, lead the fever to their first playoff game in eight seasons.

01:35:38.520 And she's not even on the promotional material for that team. So the biggest cash cow in the WNBA

01:35:44.620 can't even make the WNBA's graphic to promote the team making the playoff. Now, one point I want to

01:35:50.500 make here, Megan, and I explained this to Dan Bongino, and I want to make sure to reiterate it here.

01:35:55.060 What we're talking about is not just Caitlin Clark being discriminated against because she is white.

01:36:00.680 That's one factor of this. But if Caitlin Clark were to embrace every factor of leftism, I mean,

01:36:06.800 if she had tattoo sleeves all over her arms, if she had purple dyed hair, if she were married to a

01:36:11.480 woman, if she were out campaigning for Kamala Harris, she would be accepted by the WNBA. But she's not

01:36:16.700 because I don't think this is a legitimate sports league. It appears to me to be like a political

01:36:20.800 organization masquerading as a sports league. Yes, that's how it sounds. More on the numbers.

01:36:26.040 Ad Age reports the number of WNBA advertisers increased by over 60% in 2024. Attendance 2024

01:36:35.880 attendance increased by nearly 50% from the year earlier. Indiana led with an average home

01:36:42.080 attendance of 17,000, a year over year increase of 319%. And so people are watching and interested in

01:36:50.100 in this league like never before. And yet Sonny Hostin, in an unusual moment of honesty, explained

01:36:56.500 why they still can't stand her within the WNBA. Here she was not long ago.

01:37:03.940 If Caitlin Clark is the vehicle that will bring this sport that I have loved so much and so long

01:37:11.980 to little five-year-old girls playing in Harlem, I say yes, bravo. I have no problem with that.

01:37:17.940 I do think that there is a thing called pretty privilege. There is a thing called white privilege.

01:37:24.180 There is a thing called tall privilege. And we have to acknowledge that. But I do think that she

01:37:30.260 is more relatable to more people because she's white, because she's attractive. And unfortunately,

01:37:36.540 there still is that stigma against the LGBTQ plus community. 70% of the WNBA is black.

01:37:44.180 A third of the players are in the LGBTQ plus community. I think that people have a problem

01:37:49.340 with basketball playing women that are lesbians. Who cares? They are great athletes.

01:37:57.180 You see, the people weren't going, Jake, because they were homophobic racists. That's why the other

01:38:04.860 girls resent Caitlin getting attention because she's not black or lesbian.

01:38:09.940 Sonny literally had a great point and should have just stopped. But you can't make that point

01:38:14.500 without having to back up something to make it seem like, well, you're not going all in on,

01:38:19.160 I'm all in on Caitlin Clark. You can't just say the truth and then stop. As far as Sonny,

01:38:25.140 for the most part, I think if you put her brain in a dog, it'd walk backwards. But that's a story

01:38:29.820 for another day. The part that I don't get is where they think this hate is coming from to the

01:38:36.120 LGBTQ community. Nobody cares about whether the players are gay or straight. The reason more people

01:38:42.160 are watching because it's a better product. We saw this in college basketball when you saw what Iowa

01:38:47.540 was doing and LSU and South Carolina and these great athletes. These women are great athletes.

01:38:52.840 Sonny was right about this point. So why not just embrace that they're great athletes and use that to fuel the

01:38:58.600 sport without calling, causing any division without calling anybody. Let me ask you,

01:39:03.320 because you guys are the sports guys. I like half the women's soccer team is gay. And I look at the

01:39:09.740 NFL and the NBA. Most of those guys are black and yet huge ratings, huge attention. It doesn't seem

01:39:17.100 to me like Americans can't stand lesbians or black people. Megan, I'm from Auburn, Alabama. It is a college

01:39:24.220 town. When you go to a game, it doesn't matter if you're black, blue, gay, straight, in love with

01:39:29.260 the toaster or whatever. When Auburn scores and somebody makes a great play, we high five each

01:39:34.460 other. We just make the play. See, that should be the beauty of sports. But you should not love your

01:39:40.020 toaster. That's got all sorts of other risks associated with it. No, no, obviously not. But I'm just saying it

01:39:43.580 doesn't matter. None of that matters. The ball doesn't care what skin color you are. A fastball

01:39:47.980 doesn't stop because there's a gay guy at the plate. Sports should be the place where you get

01:39:52.480 is based on merit. What you provide as a teammate and as a player on the field, that's how you should

01:39:57.360 be judged. Grow up, ladies. Grow up. Great to see you guys. Thank you so much.

01:40:05.080 Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:40:13.580 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - September 30, 2024

Kamala Fundraises During Catastrophic Hurricane, and Caitlin Clark Derangement Syndrome, with Victor Davis Hanson and Crain & Co ｜ Ep. 901

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