The Megyn Kelly Show - Kamala's Fox Debacle is Missed Opportunity, and Media Smears Voters and Baier as Sexist, with Ruthless Hosts

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.080 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.620 Total failure. She did not move the needle at all.

00:00:19.760 I'm sure you watched last night the Kamala Harris interview with Brett Baer on Fox News.

00:00:24.240 She had an opportunity to really explain to Fox News viewers how she could help them, and she didn't.

00:00:34.180 Instead, she just kept repeating her same few small ball plans for the economy,

00:00:40.600 which she has all but admitted are just a pipe dream unless the Democrats take complete control

00:00:46.780 of both houses of Congress. You saw she's been asked, what if there's a Republican House?

00:00:53.600 What if there's a Republican Senate? How are you going to pay for that?

00:00:56.180 And she told Stephanie Ruhle, well, we just have to. We just have to.

00:01:02.200 What? What if you don't? The question is, what if you don't?

00:01:05.800 And she did know better in addressing that massive problem to all of her plans last night.

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00:02:23.240 She spent the majority of her time bashing Trump. That's what obviously this was about for her.

00:02:28.340 She wanted to go on Fox News into the belly of the beast and just bashed Donald Trump. It was a one

00:02:34.140 long game of Trump the pinata with a bunch of attacks that, in many cases, were utterly baseless.

00:02:42.480 This, Madam Vice President, was the wrong strategy. You should have called me. You should have called

00:02:48.780 me. Because I worked at the place for 14, 13 years, and I know the Fox viewers very well.

00:02:55.660 And you do not win Fox viewers over by bashing Donald Trump. They love Trump, or they're at least

00:03:05.820 open-minded to Trump. You win them, if they're winnable at all, by showing them, the ones who

00:03:12.560 aren't huge Trump fans but are Republicans or have voted Republican or at least kind of Trump

00:03:19.220 open-minded. You show those people that you are a better option because you can help improve their

00:03:29.320 lives, that they can trust you, and that you aren't as radical as they have been hearing every day all

00:03:37.000 day on Fox News for a year. You didn't do any of that. None of it. Instead, what Kamala Harris did

00:03:45.880 was she took every opportunity to show the audience she, and really Joe Biden, are the chief

00:03:52.720 sufferers of Trump derangement syndrome. She lied over and over and over on her positions, on her

00:03:59.920 policies. She denied her own record. And the worst sin was, and we saw it over and over, she dodged

00:04:06.820 question after question after question after question after question, and then played the victim trying to

00:04:11.840 sound indignant when Brett tried to get her back on track. That was the biggest dynamic of the whole

00:04:17.280 interview. Time and time again, she failed to answer the questions. I mean, on big issues. Immigration,

00:04:25.460 whether we should use taxpayer dollars to fund trans surgeries for prisoners and illegals, which is

00:04:33.800 important but also is a stand-in for the overall issue of trans and the erasure of women. Finally,

00:04:41.800 Brett asked her about Biden's mental acuity. No, she failed to answer that one, too. Instead,

00:04:46.840 she filibustered. That was her go-to trick, either with non-responsive pablum, that was her number one

00:04:54.700 choice, or sometimes on another issue entirely. Just get out of bounds, talk about something totally

00:04:59.540 unrelated. And honestly, this is a politician's trick, and it's not unusual to see it. But in

00:05:04.560 response to everything, you're not addressing any substance? What are you doing there? You're

00:05:09.260 trying to win voters in a new forum. Why would you say nothing? The only thing of substance she said

00:05:15.380 was Trump sucks. And that's the wrong strategy when dealing with Fox viewers. Honestly, it was just

00:05:23.580 stupid. I don't get it. And then when Brett would try to redirect her back to the question asked,

00:05:28.720 she acted like he was rude. He's rude. A word her lapdog media sycophants keep repeating today.

00:05:35.320 Let me tell you something about it. To those of you morons who think that Brett was rude in trying

00:05:40.680 to get her to answer the question asked, it's not her air. It's Brett's air. It's Rupert's air.

00:05:46.860 But in that half an hour exchange, it is Brett Baer's air, not yours. You don't pay to keep the shop

00:05:55.460 open. You don't go out and deal with the advertisers. You don't hire the staff. You don't

00:05:59.860 work with the producers. You don't lay out the lineup. You don't hire the talent. It's his air.

00:06:05.340 His, not yours. You being there is a gift to you. Roger used to tell us, never thank anybody for being

00:06:12.340 on your show. He used to say, don't say thank you for being here. It should go the other way. Thank you

00:06:17.660 for having me. They should be thanking you. You're giving them a massive audience of several million

00:06:23.700 people. I don't know what the ratings will be for last night, but it'll be big.

00:06:27.680 It's your gift to them. And it's your job to control the air when you have a guest on to keep

00:06:33.340 it interesting for your audience, to keep the car driving straight ahead and to not let it veer too

00:06:38.140 far off the track. That's your obligation. Brett is employed because Fox believes accurately that he

00:06:45.000 will deduce what his audience wants to have asked and seen discussed. It is not up to her.

00:06:53.700 To come hijack the entire interview with empty talking points we've heard 10,000 times. He did

00:07:01.320 absolutely the right thing by redirecting her over and over to the question asked and on behalf of his

00:07:07.020 audience, pressing her for a real answer. He did nothing wrong. I thought he crushed it, which I posted on

00:07:16.320 Twitter last night. He did a great job. Now her little act today is being praised by the left as,

00:07:23.740 you know, she looked tough. She was tough, but this, this was not tough. This was not toughness we saw

00:07:30.160 from her. This was a candidate incapable of answering, answering hard questions over and over trying to

00:07:36.600 dodge. And when Brett was not distracted, then she would begin to whine that she wasn't being allowed

00:07:46.520 to answer. That's not tough. Tough is answering the hard questions, which let's face it. Virtually

00:07:54.800 every president, a candidate can do. Obama could do it. Romney could do it. McCain could do it.

00:08:01.600 Trump can do it when he wants to. When it's one of his favorite issues, he'll go right there. She blew

00:08:06.620 a big chance to define herself in a new way to say, I'll take the border. Yes, the border is a mess.

00:08:15.860 But look, Brett, I was vice president, not president. You know, I've seen what has happened

00:08:21.960 to people like Jocelyn, the young girl who was 12, who was murdered by an illegal she let in.

00:08:27.540 And I'm totally committed to stopping this. Having had this experience in the number two spot

00:08:32.700 has only made me more resolved. Should I be elevated to take care of this problem? And here

00:08:37.680 are the executive orders I will issue on day one to do it, irrespective of whether I can get Congress

00:08:42.800 to cooperate with me. That's not what she did. She just dodged. I'll show you the exchanges in a

00:08:48.120 second. Same thing on the economy. She should have said something substantive. Instead of her myopic

00:08:55.000 little twenty five thousand dollars for first time homebuyers, you know what a collection of

00:08:58.940 people that is not big, not big enough to just make it your platform. She should have said Trump

00:09:05.180 spent us into oblivion. He was like a drunken sailor. He wasn't exactly an economic purse clutcher.

00:09:11.000 Now that I might be in charge, I'll take a more reasonable approach and we'll fight the debt and

00:09:17.240 we'll fight inflation. And here's exactly how she can't. She doesn't know. She doesn't even

00:09:21.720 understand those three plans she's unveiled. She's been given some talking points, which she

00:09:25.820 repeats incessantly, and they're empty. She should have given some points that sounded

00:09:31.080 reasonable to Fox viewers, but she almost did it on the border. She admitted the border's broken,

00:09:36.700 but she took no responsibility. And then she tried to gaslight us into believing she's really

00:09:41.860 Stephen Miller, Trump's border guy with that fingers in the belt loops, the thumbs in the belt

00:09:47.300 loops. John Wayne, she came out last night with her little routine. I'm the only one who's

00:09:51.080 prosecuted transnational criminal, whatever. Uh, Biden's mental acuity. That was another one.

00:09:56.260 Thank God Brett asked about that. That was great. Thank God somebody finally did it. Good for him.

00:10:00.280 But frankly, it was downright embarrassing. She didn't have an answer on that. How does she not

00:10:05.640 have an answer on this? She just assumes no one's going to ask her. No one has. I'm like,

00:10:11.520 I'll give you an answer, Kamala. Okay. You should really listen to this show more because I could help

00:10:16.360 you. All right. You should have said something like Brett, what I saw was an older president

00:10:22.300 who had moments of forgetting his words sometimes or his train of thought, but was still entirely

00:10:27.840 capable. That's what my experience of was with him. And then came the debate. And as you know,

00:10:34.580 within weeks of that, he resolved not to run for a second term. That's what else can she say?

00:10:39.340 But what she said in the interview was Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:10:45.760 She was the TDS was like coming out of her ears. That's not responsive to what did you know? And

00:10:53.320 when did you know it? Which was really his question. So none of this is going to assuage even a single

00:10:58.160 viewer who watches Fox, who thinks you lied, you cooed, and you won't admit it.

00:11:05.580 All right. We're going to go through this more specifically. Let's start with immigration,

00:11:09.840 which is where Brett started. It was the right thing to do. It's her most vulnerable issue.

00:11:14.400 And here's a little montage of how he pressed her.

00:11:18.340 How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released

00:11:24.180 into the country over the last three and a half years?

00:11:27.540 Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion

00:11:33.020 that people want to rightly have. And you know what I'm going to talk about.

00:11:38.120 Yeah, but just a number. Do you think it's one million, three million?

00:11:41.680 Brett, let's just get to the point. Okay. The point is that we have a broken immigration system

00:11:47.720 that needs to be repaired.

00:11:49.660 So your Homeland Security Secretary said that 85% of apprehensions.

00:11:53.340 I'm not finished.

00:11:54.160 We have an immigration system.

00:11:55.160 It's a rough estimate of six million people have been released into the country. And let me

00:12:00.040 just finish. I'll get to the question. I promise you.

00:12:01.780 I was beginning to answer.

00:12:03.060 And when you came into office, your administration immediately reversed a number of Trump border

00:12:07.940 policies. Looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate Remain in Mexico at the

00:12:13.680 beginning of your administration?

00:12:16.040 The first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration

00:12:22.980 system.

00:12:23.440 Yes, ma'am. It was called the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021.

00:12:27.160 Exactly.

00:12:27.680 Good for him. It was essentially a pathway to citizenship.

00:12:30.840 May I finish responding, please?

00:12:33.840 But you have to let me finish, please.

00:12:35.900 You had the White House and the House and the Senate, and they didn't bring up that bill.

00:12:39.540 I'm in the middle of responding to the point you're raising.

00:12:41.680 Okay.

00:12:41.720 And I'd like to finish.

00:12:42.800 With false info.

00:12:45.380 We recognized from day one that to the point of this being your first question, it is a

00:12:52.000 priority for us as a nation and for the American people. And our focus has been on fixing a

00:12:59.420 problem.

00:12:59.860 Well, and then to Brett's credit, he followed up with, you were in control. Like, you were in

00:13:08.460 control. Why didn't you do it? You know, he said Democrats voted against the belt and so on. So

00:13:13.500 they got into it on immigration and he didn't let her slide for one second. That was a thing of

00:13:18.440 beauty. I don't understand, like, these media writers out there may not know what it's like to

00:13:22.000 be a Republican or an independent or a right-leaning person and how frustrating it is to watch her get

00:13:27.080 away with her lies. It's a soothing balm to watch somebody actually confront her with the real

00:13:32.400 facts. Okay. Your stupid amnesty bill in 2021, which you purported to be a tough on the border

00:13:38.140 bill, was a joke from day one. It was your Democrat-controlled House that killed it and the

00:13:42.940 White House didn't push it. See Politico at the time you tried it. Stop trying to refer to that

00:13:47.960 like it was your day one priority. What you actually did on day one was issue a bunch of executive

00:13:52.380 orders that undid all of Trump's harder border policies, like remain in Mexico, like cracking

00:13:59.160 down on the number of asylum claims, like you reversed the building of the wall and sold off

00:14:04.380 the parts for cash. Like, that's what she did. And all she can do is lie now. She recently stumbled

00:14:13.760 upon the fact, oh, gee, we had a 2021 bill that was kind of amnesty with a couple of border

00:14:17.360 enforcement things. I'll just tout that. Like, it's real. It wasn't. The Dems killed it. And then

00:14:22.000 she goes right to her 2024 border effort that, oh, we had Republicans cooperating with us and Trump

00:14:29.180 killed it because he'd rather run on a problem than run on a solution. We've heard that a million

00:14:33.420 times, right? Like, that's all she's got. And as for the three and a half years between those two

00:14:36.980 points, she's got nothing. So he presses her in a great way by bringing up some of the families that

00:14:43.000 you guys have seen and heard from on this show, the victims of her policies and Biden's policies,

00:14:51.060 including the mother of little Jocelyn Nugare and her testimony before Congress about what

00:14:57.180 happened to her daughter. Watch. Jocelyn Nungare, Rachel Morin, Lakin Riley, they are young women

00:15:04.840 who were brutally assaulted and killed by some of the men who were released at the beginning of the

00:15:09.880 administration well before a negotiated bipartisan bill. This is a specific policy decision by your

00:15:16.780 administration to release these men into the country. So what I'm saying to you, do you owe

00:15:21.740 those families an apology? Let me just say, first of all, those are tragic cases. There's no question

00:15:29.720 about that. And I can't imagine the pain that the families of those victims have experienced

00:15:37.120 for a loss that should not have occurred. So that is true. It is also true that if a border security

00:15:48.200 had actually been passed nine months ago, it would be nine months that we would have had more border

00:15:55.220 agents at the border, more support for the folks who are working around the clock, trying to hold it

00:16:01.280 all together to ensure that no future harm would occur. So do you owe them an apology is what I'm

00:16:10.140 saying? I will tell you that I'm so sorry for her loss. I'm so sorry for her loss. Sincerely.

00:16:17.760 But let's talk about what is happening right now with an individual who does not want to participate

00:16:25.640 in solutions. Let's talk about that as well. In all fairness, I told you, I feel awful for what

00:16:34.040 she and her family have experienced. That is not the same as an apology. It's not, I feel bad.

00:16:43.120 I'm sorry for her loss is not, I'm sorry for being part of what caused it. That's what he was asking.

00:16:51.420 Of course she didn't answer that. I mean, of course, and I'll give her points for starting off

00:16:55.840 right by showing some empathy for the families. However, the pivot was right to the nine months

00:17:04.060 since that one stupid mirage of a border bill was tanked. That totally ignores what these parents,

00:17:13.260 these families have been testifying to, which is she opened the border. She and Joe Biden opened the

00:17:18.740 border and we had 10.4 million illegals come through and tens of thousands of them turned out

00:17:26.660 to be criminals of one sort or another. And young girls have been murdered, raped, murdered, tortured.

00:17:36.380 So have young men. And he named three of them. She took no responsibility. I'm telling you that

00:17:44.040 shit is not going to fly on Fox news channel with those viewers. Trust me. Immigration is one of

00:17:51.380 their biggest issues and her taking no responsibility, none whatsoever. And just trying to shove that fake

00:17:58.660 border bill down their throat. It's a fail. It's a fail. What are you doing there? How is any of that

00:18:03.460 any different from all that you've done in this race so far? Aren't you looking to rejigger things?

00:18:08.560 Aren't you looking to move the needle? That's not the way that's not going to do it. So once again,

00:18:15.260 she failed to own up to what she and her administration have done. Um, so she keeps

00:18:23.260 going to say, okay, you know, um, but they stay on immigration. He says, look, you, you kept saying

00:18:29.680 the border was secure during this time. When in your mind did it start becoming a crisis? And she goes on,

00:18:35.380 well, we've had a broken immigration system transcending even Donald Trump's administration.

00:18:39.340 Let's be honest about it. Okay. Now we're talking. Okay. Are you going to have your moment or you're

00:18:43.360 like, you know, it's bad. I admit it's bad. And we made it worse. Maybe you do that. And then you do

00:18:48.400 the pivot and here's how I'm going to improve it. Cause I was just VP, not Pete, not Pete. And then she

00:18:52.620 goes, I've been clear. She said that all night when she wasn't, I think we all are clear that it needs

00:18:58.960 to be fixed. And then she, she goes on to say, okay, we need more judges at the border. We need to

00:19:03.760 process these cases faster. And what she doesn't say is we need to stop them from coming in, in the

00:19:10.140 first, but it's not that we need to adjudicate their claims faster. Yes. That's a piece of it. We need

00:19:15.060 to stop them from coming across the border to begin with. That was the main thing Trump did. And she

00:19:21.800 doesn't speak to it because she doesn't plan to do that. She doesn't plan to do that. So that's what she

00:19:28.400 says. And to get those resources, you know, for the judges, cause she went to the border,

00:19:32.720 which she pointed out, she spent like a half an hour at the border. Now she wants us to believe

00:19:36.180 she's an expert. And now you have talked to these guys and they need more money for these resources.

00:19:40.600 The Congress is the only place that that's going to get that fixed. Right. But there is a ton you can

00:19:45.800 do via executive order that you refuse to do. In fact, you took executive actions the other way.

00:19:51.620 Just say, you'll do them. Just say, you'll do the executive actions that Trump did. Just say that

00:19:56.440 if you're really committed to shoring up the border, but she's not. So she tries to just say,

00:20:00.920 oh, well, they need more financial resources. And that can only come from Congress. My hands are

00:20:05.940 tied. My hands are tied. Brett, to his credit, again, fires back with, there were 90 plus executive

00:20:12.820 orders that were rescinded in the first days. Many of those were Trump border policies. And then he's

00:20:18.840 got to move on. He's already spent like four or five questions on immigration. I would have done the

00:20:21.620 same. But he pivots to you. You claim you talked to the border patrol. Well, their union just endorsed

00:20:28.340 Trump saying, quote, you've been a failure. Why do you think they said that? Now, I get what he was

00:20:34.200 doing there. I will say I would have. That's too open ended. It just gives her a platform. I would

00:20:39.220 have said, why did you rescind those orders? Why did you stop the wall? Why did you rescind remain?

00:20:43.940 Why? Why did you rescind remain in Mexico? Why did you open up the expansive

00:20:49.680 possibility of applying for asylum? Why? Sometimes the whys are the hardest questions.

00:20:57.880 Anyway, she went on to say, oh, they're frustrated. They want support, you know, blah, blah, blah. It

00:21:05.280 wasn't. Fine. Then he goes back and says, look, in 2019, when you ran, you said, I'll let the legal

00:21:13.960 illegals apply for driver's licenses and free tuition at universities and to be enrolled in

00:21:20.180 free health care. Do you still support those things? And here's how that went down.

00:21:24.840 There's a lot of people that look back at what you said at 2019, when you first ran for president,

00:21:28.820 and there have been changes and you've talked about some of them. When it comes to

00:21:32.620 immigration, you supported allowing immigrants in the country illegally to apply for driver's

00:21:38.020 license, to qualify for free tuition at universities, to be enrolled in free health care. Do you still

00:21:44.180 support those things? Listen, that was five years ago, and I'm very clear that I will follow the law.

00:21:49.680 I have made that statement over and over again. What does that mean?

00:21:51.740 And as vice president of the United States, that's exactly what I've done, not to mention before.

00:21:56.500 If that's the case, you chose a running mate, Tim Walz, governor of Minnesota,

00:22:01.020 who signed those very things into state law. So do you support that?

00:22:07.580 We are very clear, and I'm very clear, as is Tim Walz, that we must support and enforce federal law,

00:22:17.060 and that is exactly what we will do.

00:22:18.760 It's an infuriating dodge. Infuriating dodge. You ran for president promising to change federal law,

00:22:30.940 to allow illegals to apply for driver's licenses, to qualify for free tuition at universities,

00:22:36.540 to be enrolled in free health care. Do you still support those things?

00:22:39.860 This is one of my frustrations throughout. She pretended that the president has

00:22:44.660 absolutely nothing to do with the law. She needs that little schoolhouse rock,

00:22:50.320 just a bill, so she can figure out that when you're president, you actually are the one who

00:22:54.100 signs the bills into law, and who actually comes up with a lot of policy prescriptions that you then

00:23:00.100 work for and advocate for with Congress, which writes the bills. But they don't become law without a veto,

00:23:09.940 unless an override, I should say, unless you sign them. As the president, you need to sign the bills

00:23:15.260 for them to become the laws. Why? She's just some plebe. Well, I'll follow the law. No, no, no.

00:23:22.900 You're in a position to actually make law. You're in a position to make law. And you said you wanted

00:23:27.940 to make these laws. Do you still follow that or don't you? And she just kept dodging with that

00:23:33.020 stupid line. And it's an empty line meant to dodge her real policy prescriptions, because why would

00:23:39.560 she not just own it? What's the reason to not embrace those earlier policies? Because she still

00:23:45.120 holds them and they're very unpopular. So that's what she did. Brett zeroed in on one decriminalizing

00:23:53.100 border crossings. That was another thing you said in 2019. Do you still stand by that? And she said,

00:23:57.940 I don't, I don't believe in decriminalizing border crossings. And I've not done that as vice

00:24:03.000 president. Okay. She couldn't have done that as vice president, but okay. And I will not do that

00:24:07.560 as president. Great. So he's, he asked her, so that's an evolution that you've had. Great. Like,

00:24:11.760 let's talk about it. And here's where she goes. So annoying. Let's be very clear. I'm the only person

00:24:21.560 running for president who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations.

00:24:24.960 She won't discuss her evolution because there's been no evolution. What she's realized is she's

00:24:36.020 too far left and she can't say the shit she really believes. So she's got to pretend again,

00:24:40.200 that she's Stephen Miller now. And she just does it by saying, it's not, it's not something I'll do.

00:24:47.740 And he's like, explain the evolution. What did you see that made you change your mind on your stupid,

00:24:55.040 dangerous idea from 2019. And instead of actually explaining anything, she goes back to her John

00:25:00.000 Wayne routine about how tough she was when she was, um, uh, a prosecutor in a border state.

00:25:05.380 Um, okay. Brett switches to the trans issue. He talks about how Trump's running an ad in Pennsylvania

00:25:13.700 and elsewhere that hits her for supporting taxpayer funded sex change procedures, including operations

00:25:21.960 for prisoners, including violent felons, people on death row and illegals. And here again,

00:25:31.300 she comes up with her infuriating, I'll follow the law. Sat for, are you still in support of using

00:25:39.640 taxpayer dollars to help prison inmates or detained illegal aliens to transition to another gender?

00:25:45.680 I will follow the law. And it's a law that Donald Trump actually followed. Um, you're probably familiar

00:25:51.960 with now it's a public report that under Donald Trump's administration, these, uh, surgeries were

00:25:59.360 available to on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system. And I think frankly,

00:26:07.260 that ad from the Trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing, you know, stones when you're living

00:26:12.420 in a glass house. The Trump aides say that he never advocated for that prison policy and no gender

00:26:17.220 transition. Well, you know what, you gotta take responsibility for what happened in your

00:26:20.900 administration. Yeah, no surgeries happened in this pregnancy. It's in black and white. Would you still

00:26:25.200 advocate for using taxpayer dollars for gender reassignment? I will follow the law just as I,

00:26:30.380 I think Donald Trump would say he did. You would have a say as president. I, like I said, I think it's

00:26:35.900 really, he spent $20 million on those ads trying to create a sense of fear in the voters because he

00:26:42.560 actually has no plan in this election that is about focusing on the needs of the American people.

00:26:49.260 And then she goes on to say that this issue is really quite remote and his policy was no

00:26:57.760 different. All right. This is based on a New York times report yesterday that hit Donald Trump for

00:27:01.640 being very pro giving sex change operations to people in prison. Not true. When Trump took over

00:27:09.120 as president, if you read the New York times report, when he took over as president, he inherited

00:27:13.020 a policy for the prisons that Obama had put in place, allowing those procedures. And what did the

00:27:19.680 Trump administration do? They fought them. They fought the policy. The legal wrangling continued

00:27:25.240 throughout his term. And then Joe Biden won. And when Joe Biden won, he was all for it. And one of those

00:27:33.840 prisoners got the surgery, which the New York times is blaming on Trump, but they challenged this

00:27:39.400 procedure, both as a policy matter and as a legal matter. Trump was never in favor of this.

00:27:44.680 And if you think Donald Trump is going to get into office and do anything other than try to reverse

00:27:49.920 this policy, you're crazy. This is very much front of mind for Republicans right now. She knows it.

00:27:57.500 And that's why she's not answering. I'll just follow the law. I'll follow the law. Well,

00:28:02.900 are you going to work to revoke this policy or aren't you? We don't want to pay for the trannies

00:28:10.060 to have their penises chopped off after they've killed little kids. It's a thing for Democrats and

00:28:17.840 Republicans. And by the way, it's happening. She she dodged. I'll follow the law. I'll follow the

00:28:23.420 law. So the problem for her here again is she pushed to change the law when she was California

00:28:29.440 attorney general. She that's what Trump's ad is pointing out when she pushed when she was California

00:28:34.920 AG, she pushed to change the law. The law back then in California, even in liberal California,

00:28:39.500 did not allow taxpayer dollars to be used for this. So she bragged on camera when she was speaking to

00:28:44.140 this LGBTQ group a few years ago that she behind the scenes worked to change the policy that would

00:28:52.180 allow these transgender people to get these procedures on the taxpayer dime. She's proud of it.

00:28:58.800 Really, she was a couple of years ago. And that's what's in the Trump ad. She worked to do an end

00:29:05.560 around the policy. And we're going to release a special episode later today where you will hear

00:29:10.820 from a prosecutor tomorrow morning where you will hear from the prosecutor who put this guy in prison,

00:29:18.000 who murdered this beautiful young ish couple by luring them onto their own boat, a husband and wife

00:29:27.160 that they were trying to sell saying, I might be interested in buying it. He got them onto their

00:29:31.900 boat. He had the whole thing planned out. He had accomplices and he got them under duress to sign over

00:29:38.960 the deed to the boat right before he tied them to their own ship's anchor and threw them overboard,

00:29:47.140 threw them overboard where they drowned to death attached to the anchor of their own boat. That pig

00:29:55.520 had his sex change operation paid for by California taxpayers. Thanks to Kamala Harris.

00:30:05.880 These are facts. Listen to the episode tomorrow morning. It's a quick interview. And Matt Murphy,

00:30:12.900 the prosecutor on the case who has nothing against trans people, who's the lifelong California guy

00:30:19.200 will walk you through exactly what she did. Um, okay, I'll follow the law. That's what she wanted

00:30:27.640 to say. That's how she tried to get out of it. Um, and this is just a remote issue. Guess again,

00:30:34.640 we didn't hear anything about boys and girls sports. Um, maybe the next time she tries to go into a

00:30:42.120 difficult or more challenging forum that will get asked. Cause I'd love to hear what she says,

00:30:46.140 what she says on that. Uh, then Brett switches to the economy. Why do you think more people say

00:30:52.180 they trust Trump on the economy than they trust you? And now we get into the Kamala Harris wordiness.

00:30:58.460 I think that when you look at an analysis of our plans for what we would do as president of the

00:31:03.600 United States, it has been clear to those who study and understand how economic policy works

00:31:08.620 and moving forward. Because I do believe the American people are ready to turn the page

00:31:12.960 on the divisiveness and type of rhetoric that has come out of Donald Trump, TDS, TDS, TDS.

00:31:18.680 People are ready to chart a new way forward. And they want a president who has a plan for the future

00:31:23.920 and a plan that is sound and will strengthen our country. My plan for the economy does exactly that.

00:31:31.180 His plan would be again, to give tax cuts to billionaires and the biggest corporations in

00:31:35.760 our country and will blow up our deficit. What? Not responsive. Why? She can't do it. Think about

00:31:45.800 how Barack Obama would have answered this or Bill Clinton. They would have been honest. They would

00:31:50.080 have said people, maybe they would have said they tend to forget, you know, what the Trump economy

00:31:55.240 actually got us. It got us an additional seven and a half trillion dollars in debt. It got us into a

00:31:59.360 position where when COVID struck, we had nothing in reserve, whatever, however you want to spin it.

00:32:03.140 But she can't do that. She's got to do word salad extraordinaire until she finally remembers that

00:32:10.060 she's got a line about Trump's tax cuts to billionaires. And then she's like, stuck the

00:32:14.960 landing. Brett says, this is another thing Republicans have wanted to hear asked. You said,

00:32:23.420 turn the page. People are ready to turn the page. Madam vice president, you were asked on two different

00:32:28.240 shows last week. What if anything, would you do differently? Here's what you said. He runs clips.

00:32:33.600 Of her saying nothing. And so he says, so nothing comes to mind that you would do differently.

00:32:39.860 And she starts with, let me be clear. She just did this over. Let me be clear. And then you can

00:32:44.260 be assured what's going to follow is not clear at all. My presidency will not be a continuation of

00:32:49.280 Joe Biden's presidency. That's it. She's had a week plus. She said months, but she, you know,

00:32:54.680 since that question stumped her, she's had a week to come up with something good. My presidency will

00:32:59.860 not be a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency. Let's listen. So you're not Joe Biden, you're not

00:33:05.820 Donald Trump, but, but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently. Let me be very clear.

00:33:10.480 My presidency will not be a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency. And like every new president

00:33:17.060 that comes in to office, I will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences and

00:33:23.840 fresh and new ideas. I represent a new generation of leadership.

00:33:28.580 Literally what she is saying is I am not the same person as he is. I mean, what my presidency will not

00:33:34.440 be a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency. Yet we know, obviously we can see you're two different

00:33:39.160 human beings. This is not news. I will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences

00:33:45.080 and fresh and new ideas. What are they? The question is, how are they different from his?

00:33:51.900 What are the new ideas? Walk us through it. She won't do it. She can't do it. It will be a continuation

00:33:59.960 of the Joe Biden presidency because the answer she gave on the view last week was the real one.

00:34:05.240 Nothing comes to mind. Nothing at all. She's not running to do anything differently. So if you liked

00:34:11.700 your time under Joe Biden, if you thought the economy was good and the country was going in

00:34:15.340 the right direction, she's your gal. But she's speaking to Fox News viewers, trying to tell them

00:34:20.680 it's forget Biden. I know you didn't like him vote for me instead, because I represent a new

00:34:27.800 generation of leadership. I have not spent the majority of my career in Washington, D.C.

00:34:33.700 I invite ideas, whether it be from Republicans who are supporting me, et cetera. Okay. This is not

00:34:42.220 going to persuade the Fox News viewers who understand the Republicans supporting you are Adam Kinzinger

00:34:47.320 and Liz Cheney. You may not have noticed, but they've been excommunicated from the Republican Party.

00:34:52.540 This is. And by the way, not for nothing, but Trump has got a Kennedy who's ready to join his

00:34:58.500 cabinet. Trump has got Tulsi Gabbard, who ran for president on the Democratic ticket in 2020.

00:35:05.280 So this is not special about you. He says again to her, your campaign slogan is a new way forward.

00:35:14.360 It's time to turn the page. You've been vice president for three and a half years.

00:35:18.120 So what are you turning the page from? We have this. All right. I'm going to play it. But like,

00:35:26.960 this is one of like, this is one of the most frustrating parts. TDS. It's a TDS answer.

00:35:34.140 What are you turning page from? And she tries to say basically the last 10 years. So, okay. That brings

00:35:41.240 us back to 2014. Who was president again then? Who was president through 2017? It was Barack Obama.

00:35:49.760 So we got three years of the 10 with Barack Obama. We had the last three and a half years with Joe

00:35:57.660 Biden and Kamala Harris. So that's six of the past 10 years. And then you had four in there with Donald

00:36:02.520 Trump. So you got 60% of the last 10 years with Democrats in control, Democrats in the White House.

00:36:09.340 So he asked her, what are you turning the page on? Because you're currently in office.

00:36:17.240 And here's how she answered it.

00:36:19.620 More than 70% of people tell the country is on the wrong track. They say the country is on the wrong

00:36:25.160 track. If it's on the wrong track, that track follows three and a half years of you being vice

00:36:31.860 president and president Biden being president. That is what they're saying. 79% of them. Why are they

00:36:38.300 saying that? If you're turning the page, you've been in office for three and a half years.

00:36:43.260 And Donald Trump has been running for office.

00:36:46.660 But you've been the person holding the office.

00:36:48.600 Come on. You and I both know what I'm talking about.

00:36:51.300 She's stumped.

00:36:51.540 You and I both know what I'm talking about.

00:36:52.840 I actually don't. What are you talking about?

00:36:54.200 What I'm talking about is that over the last decade, people have become...

00:36:59.300 Come on. But listen, over the last decade, it is clear to me and certainly the Republicans who are

00:37:06.880 on stage with me, the former chief of staff to the president, Donald Trump, former defense

00:37:14.160 secretaries, national security advisor, and his vice president. One, that he is unfit to serve,

00:37:19.800 that he is unstable, that he is dangerous, and that people are exhausted.

00:37:27.500 Okay. So there you can see her. She's stumped. It was another Lester Holt. And I've never been to

00:37:35.280 Europe moment. Remember when he's like, you haven't been to the border. And I've never been to Europe.

00:37:40.300 That was what we just saw there. And you've been in office for three and a half years. And Donald Trump

00:37:46.380 has been running for office. Watch it again.

00:37:50.120 People are exhausted.

00:37:51.120 Tell the country is on the wrong track. They say the country is on the wrong track. If it's on the wrong track,

00:37:57.620 that track follows three and a half years of you being vice president and President Biden being president.

00:38:03.200 That is what they're saying, 79% of them. Why are they saying that? If you're turning the page,

00:38:09.700 you've been in office for three and a half years.

00:38:12.380 And Donald Trump has been running for office.

00:38:15.340 But you've been the person held in the office, Madam Vice President.

00:38:19.200 You and I both know what I'm talking about. You and I both know what I'm talking about.

00:38:22.160 I actually don't. What are you talking about?

00:38:23.440 What I'm talking about is that over the last decade.

00:38:26.040 You get it. Look at it. He's genuinely stumped. I mean, Brett's genuinely like,

00:38:29.580 what the fuck is going on right now? What do you say? No. What are you saying? What are you saying?

00:38:36.480 Her campaign forward is a new way forward. Her slogan, a new way forward.

00:38:40.840 What is the new way you're in office right now? She can't answer it. All she can say is Trump bad,

00:38:48.380 orange man, bad, divisive rhetoric. Then he comes back with why is half the country supporting him?

00:38:55.240 This is an election for president. Are they misguided? She doesn't take that bait,

00:38:58.980 which was a smart move on her part. Um, then she jumped, she jumps to, okay, I wouldn't say

00:39:04.720 they're stupid. No, I'm not going to say that, but he's been saying he would turn the American

00:39:11.700 military on the American people. This is a lie. She repeated it. And the Democrats are repeating

00:39:17.740 it everywhere. Go ahead and tune into MSNBC for 15 minutes. I dare you to get through 15 minutes

00:39:23.220 without this coming up. We did a fact check on this on, what was it? Tuesday morning at the top

00:39:27.700 of our show. And it's a lie. Trump was asked by Maria Bartiromo about Joe Biden's prediction of

00:39:35.420 chaos on election day and violence and asked him if he thinks that could happen. And Trump said there

00:39:42.500 won't be violence from Trump supporters, but how I would handle that is yeah, if necessary, we'd

00:39:48.420 unleash the national guard and possibly even the military. His response was, we're not going to let

00:39:52.660 that happen. We're not going to let riots in the streets, tear down America because people are

00:39:57.480 unhappy with the election results. That's what he was saying. They, that is what this is based on.

00:40:04.800 Yes. He talks about the enemy within. And you, and you heard that. I mean, he was specifically in

00:40:09.320 one instance talking about people like Adam Schiff who have made it their entire business and career

00:40:14.120 to try to ruin Trump. But he talks about these radical leftists who he calls Marxist and so on.

00:40:18.880 And he was like, these are the enemy from within that's fine. That's normal political rhetoric.

00:40:21.940 Frankly, the Democrats say far worse. But the thing that makes this really controversial is to tie the

00:40:26.660 threat to unleash the national guard or the U S military unsaid people. That's what's pushing

00:40:32.340 people over the edge. And they're doing it totally falsely. It's a lie. He has not said that he said,

00:40:37.840 if there were riots in response to the election, that would be an appropriate response. And most of us

00:40:43.060 agree with him. That's what we wanted to see during BLM. Get the national guard out there. Stop letting

00:40:48.460 people get murdered by these loons. Don't let 2000 cops get hurt. Uh, we should have handled that more

00:40:55.240 aggressively under his presidency. And he's saying, I got the message and I won't allow that,

00:40:59.160 but they've turned it into the government's coming. The military is coming to your backyard barbecue.

00:41:04.280 If you voted for Kamala Harris, it's, it's just, it's a lie. And honestly, this is where like,

00:41:11.280 she gets so incredibly whiny. All right. So she, he says to her, she, she gets into her thing about,

00:41:21.220 he suggested he would turn the American military and the American people. And Brett takes a bit of

00:41:26.020 a weird turn here where he says, we had a town hall with Trump this afternoon. And we asked him

00:41:31.940 about this statement. And he tosses to a soundbite between Trump and Harris Faulkner,

00:41:38.920 where she asks him about the controversy and he plays Trump's defense of the controversy,

00:41:45.880 which is basically Trump being like, well, we have it. Okay. Let's watch.

00:41:51.020 If you listen to Donald Trump, if you watch any of his rallies,

00:41:54.000 he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and diminish the American people. He's the one who

00:42:01.180 talks about an enemy within, within an enemy within talking about the American people,

00:42:08.000 suggesting he would turn the American military on the American people.

00:42:12.920 We asked that question to the former president today, Harris Faulkner had a town hall and this is

00:42:19.200 how he responded. I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening,

00:42:24.000 I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing the threatening. They do phony investigations.

00:42:29.180 I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the greatest.

00:42:32.840 No, it's true. We've got to think of it. It's called weaponization of government. It's a terrible

00:42:37.180 thing. So, Brett, I'm sorry. And with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying

00:42:44.460 about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the American people. That's not

00:42:50.340 what you just showed. He was asked about that. No, no, no, that's not what you just showed in

00:42:54.160 all fairness and respect to you. I'm telling you that was the question that we asked him.

00:42:57.300 He didn't show that. And here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times. He has talked about

00:43:02.560 turning the American military on the American people. No, no. Again, so this is so annoying

00:43:09.840 because Brett did nothing wrong. He's trying to keep advancing the ball. We've been hearing them

00:43:16.540 playing these Trump soundbites for a week now. He's trying to say, I heard your accusation.

00:43:21.080 You made it repeatedly that he's making these threats. Well, we asked him what his defense

00:43:26.440 to these accusations is. He's trying to move the ball forward to make news. And here's what he said.

00:43:30.980 Would you like to respond to that? And she could easily have said, you know, whatever she wanted to

00:43:35.900 like, look, he's not sorry. He didn't walk it back. You know, he claimed in that clip he wasn't

00:43:41.320 threatening anybody, but go look at the tape. Right. Instead, she tried to accuse Brett of playing

00:43:46.340 like the wrong clip as if he had the wrong. No, Brett has seen the clips. Trust me. He's seen

00:43:51.340 the clips. He's trying to move the story forward. Now, I think probably a more clear way would have

00:43:58.400 been fine. This is what Trump said. First, here's what Trump said. I mean, honestly, you could have

00:44:04.100 just played what Trump said originally with the full context. It happened on Fox with Maria Bartiromo.

00:44:08.920 Just play it. Let the audience hear he was talking about riots on election day. He's not talking

00:44:13.860 about sending the military to go torture Kamala Harris voters and then say, aren't you taking

00:44:18.840 it out of context? That's that's what I would have done. But this is fine. This is another

00:44:24.020 approach. And she decided to get once again to feign indignance indignation over him allegedly

00:44:30.240 playing the wrong soundbite as if like Trump didn't say it. And that's what Brett was trying

00:44:34.400 to get at. That's not what at all he's trying to get you to respond to his defense. It's called

00:44:39.400 an opportunity for you, madam, to take a shot at Trump's defense. She wouldn't do it. She just

00:44:45.740 feigned indignation. And this is their favorite clip over on MS this morning. Oh, she'd hear

00:44:50.460 Mika presenting. Good for her. Brett Baer used to be a respected journalist. He's a hack. He

00:44:56.780 queued up the wrong. That's not what Trump said. You people are too stupid to live. This is so dumb.

00:45:02.420 You're so dumb. Either you're dumb or you're dishonest. I think probably both to be perfectly

00:45:08.560 honest. Anyway, fine. Uh, that's how that went. Then he tries to defend himself. She doubles down

00:45:17.780 on her nonsense about he's going to lock people up. He's going to send the American military against

00:45:22.420 them. That needed to be fact checked. Go ahead. Is it Steve Krakauer? Is it our Tuesday episode

00:45:26.820 where we did a fact check on this? It's at the top of the program. Yeah. Just click,

00:45:32.360 click that program. It's the first 10 minutes. You will understand exactly. And, um, then she's

00:45:37.980 back on her TDS. He's not stable. He's not stable. He's not stable. Uh, we should all be concerned.

00:45:44.180 And then he asks her the question about Biden's mental faculties. Listen here.

00:45:50.000 What's the significance of that? You call Donald Trump, um, he's misguided. You say now he's

00:45:58.240 unstable. He is unstable, but he's not well. You say he's mentally not stable. He's not stable.

00:46:04.020 Let me ask you this. You told many interviewers that Joe Biden was on his game that ran around

00:46:09.520 circles on his staff. When did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared

00:46:14.720 diminished? Joe Biden, I have watched in from the Oval Office to the Situation Room and he has the

00:46:25.440 judgment and the experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has done in making very important

00:46:32.020 decisions on behalf of the American people. Joe Biden is not on the ballot. I understand.

00:46:38.340 And Donald Trump, Donald Trump is. But you talked about it. And Donald Trump is. After George Clooney

00:46:42.720 said within a few minutes of talking to President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought this was not

00:46:47.460 the same Joe Biden that we saw on the debate stage. Donald Trump is on the ballot. I understand.

00:46:52.740 You met with him at least once a week for three and a half years. You didn't have any concerns?

00:46:59.020 I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump. She won't answer.

00:47:03.960 She can't. She knew. She knew. She knew for as long as everyone in that administration knew and

00:47:17.420 she covered it up. And when asked point blank, when did you know? She dodged. I mean, look at that

00:47:25.840 answer. I'm just looking at the transcript. He asked her, when did you first notice his mental

00:47:31.280 faculties appear diminished? She tried to just say Joe Biden's great. He has the judgment experience.

00:47:36.220 Brett, no concerns raised. Joe Biden's not on the ballot. That's the point. He's not on the ballot

00:47:43.100 because he had a mental collapse at a presidential debate. And then the state of his mental acuity

00:47:48.680 became a national security problem and a political problem for you guys. So when did you know? That's

00:47:54.440 the question. Joe Biden's not on the ballot. The next answer, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump.

00:47:59.720 Trump. George Clooney said within a few minutes he saw it. What about you? Donald Trump is on the

00:48:05.660 ballot. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I'm telling you, Fox viewers will be sitting there pulling

00:48:11.180 their hair out. You failed. You blew your opportunity. You blew your big moment to go

00:48:16.680 into the lion's den and show how tough you were because you couldn't answer the tough questions

00:48:19.580 because you were complicit and we know it. You met with him at least a week, at least once a week for

00:48:25.640 three and a half years, you didn't have any concerns, Donald Trump. And then another long

00:48:30.180 answer about Donald Trump. It ended with him asking about Iran and, you know, how this administration

00:48:39.280 has not acted like Iran is the number one threat. She resorted to her word salad. Well, I will tell you

00:48:46.940 most recently, whether it was April or October, and then several hours on each occasion that Iran posed a

00:48:53.540 threat to Israel. I was there most recently in the Situation Room, in the most recent attack,

00:48:59.600 working with the heads of our military and doing what America must always do to defend and to support

00:49:05.040 Israel in its requirement to defend itself and to give American support to be able to allow Israel

00:49:10.900 to have the resources to defend itself against attack, including from Iran and Iran's terrorist

00:49:17.140 proxies in the region. And that, and my commitment to that is unyielding and unwavering. You've said

00:49:24.140 nothing because you were in the Situation Room when things went down. That's all you've said.

00:49:29.600 How does that show you understand and have pushed policies that take into account Iran is the biggest

00:49:37.440 threat we're facing? It doesn't. It's just incredibly frustrating. She's incredibly empty.

00:49:43.280 She knows nothing about foreign policy. I mean, nothing, nothing. At least if you look at Donald

00:49:51.620 Trump over the years, he was coming up a businessman and so on. He talked about foreign policy all the

00:49:54.780 time. He's the one who made China a story and tariffs and trade. She knows nothing. When we come

00:50:02.260 back, our friends from Ruthless will be here to help us get further into this and the insane media reaction

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00:51:11.080 Joining me now, Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook, and the man known to his minions as

00:51:15.600 Comfortably Smug, the fellas from the Ruthless program. Go find them at youtube.com slash Ruthless

00:51:22.640 Podcast. Great to see you guys. Oh, look at your new fancy set. Oh, look at you're stepping it up in

00:51:28.600 the world. I like it. Yeah. We're brightening things up a little bit. We're like, we've got to

00:51:33.620 go on in Kelly. You got to look good for this sort of thing. Yeah. It's kind of chic. I like it. All

00:51:39.940 right. So what did you think of last night? Thank you for having us. We appreciate having your air

00:51:43.960 toned. You are welcome. It is an honor, I'm sure. All right. So what'd you think of last night?

00:51:54.140 Uh, let me start with like two observations before we get into the Kamala stuff. Cause I think all of

00:51:59.480 us have got thoughts on that. First of all, Brett Baer did an absolutely exceptional job. I mean,

00:52:05.260 this is, he's one of very few, remarkably few journalists, yourself included that when you get

00:52:11.360 into a situation where you're interviewing a public figure of some significance that they can actually

00:52:15.560 do their job in a way that journalism is supposed to be done. Um, I think he did an exceptional job.

00:52:20.780 Second of all, what I found so hilarious about the reaction to all of this is the Democrats acting

00:52:25.400 like she just stormed the beaches at Normandy because she answered what questions, you know,

00:52:30.520 it's like, no, no, no. Like that's the job that people are supposed to do who call themselves

00:52:35.100 journalists. And like Brett is an absolute blue chip journalist. Like this is what he does. He did

00:52:40.660 the same thing to Donald Trump, by the way, you know? So I listen, I understand that they don't watch

00:52:45.420 Fox so they don't know what actual journalism looks like on special report at six o'clock,

00:52:49.920 but that's what it is. Right. Or any, but or any channel, I guess it's not available, but they,

00:52:56.600 it's been so long. And by that, I mean, never that Kamala Harris has had a challenging interview

00:53:01.700 since she became the nominee. They don't even understand it when they see it. It's like the

00:53:05.280 dog with the, instead of being like, Oh, journalism, they're like, Oh, he's so I'll give you a sampling

00:53:13.540 guys. Um, here is a little bit of the media meltdown in response to that interview.

00:53:23.020 We witnessed a man who spent his life as a down the middle journalist seeming to throw it all away

00:53:28.160 for his audience of one interrupting the vice president awkwardly and unnecessarily.

00:53:33.420 I thought she handled it masterfully. I mean, he was rude. I think Brett Baer was rude. So was it a

00:53:39.580 home run? No. Did she need it to be a home run? Absolutely not. And I was quite repulsed by Brett

00:53:45.080 Baer. The attack mode from the beginning was, was quite stunning. Vice president Kamala Harris

00:53:51.060 kicks Brett Baer's ass. Extraordinary performance from the vice president and hostile territory.

00:53:58.920 And frankly, Brett Baer should leave, quit the job and go to a monastery and hope to atone.

00:54:08.640 Yeah, the lib media reaction is exactly what I was waiting for this morning after I saw it last

00:54:16.260 night. I mean, every morning when I get up, I like to say today is going to be an insane day.

00:54:20.420 And what I saw this morning out of the left wing media just did not disappoint.

00:54:25.880 Yeah, a huge missed opportunity. I mean, take it out of the partisan lens. And, you know,

00:54:31.940 Democrats for weeks have been telling, begging Kamala Harris's campaign to distance herself from

00:54:38.240 President Biden. And she refused to do that. And Brett Baer gave her numerous opportunities. He was

00:54:43.760 like, look, you know, 80 percent of this country thinks we're on the wrong track. Is there anything you

00:54:48.700 would have done differently in the last three and a half years? And she can't. He asked her,

00:54:53.040 OK, what's going to be different about your administration than Joe Biden? The best she

00:54:56.300 could do is, well, I will be a different person. It'll be a, you know, a different person will be

00:55:02.380 taking the generation of leadership. Unbelievable. And you're younger. You would think on Fox News,

00:55:09.880 if they had a strategy as a presidential campaign to make that pivot, to make distance between Joe

00:55:16.480 Biden and Kamala Harris, do it on Fox. You've got people willing to hear that message that are

00:55:22.140 independent, that are conservative leading. And like you had a huge opportunity. That's what I

00:55:26.160 is blowing my mind about this is it was a huge opportunity for Kamala Harris to finally make

00:55:30.580 that pivot. And she didn't. But she ain't got it. You know, I mean, that's the problem. She just

00:55:35.480 doesn't have another gear like this is for whatever you saw of Kamala Harris. And I think

00:55:39.300 it was an abject disaster for her, for all the reasons that you pointed out in your monologue

00:55:42.760 at the top. She doesn't have that's as good as you're going to get. Like it doesn't get any

00:55:49.600 better for her than that. And imagine you spent the last two weeks not being able to answer the

00:55:53.740 simple question of what you would do differently. And then you get a shot to redo it and you still

00:55:57.680 haven't come up with anything like sooner or later. You're just like, well, I guess

00:56:02.480 is all we got. So I will add this. I also thought she was whiny like that business about

00:56:13.960 against the American people. She's got to be aware she has a terrible voice as Maureen

00:56:20.000 Callahan describes it. It's vocal fry adjacent. It's too much. It's a, it's a lot. And there's

00:56:26.340 a clip online on Twitter where it has a split screen of her with like the angry scolding look

00:56:32.460 and Brett bear as follows. Well, the eyes closed and they were like, there isn't a man alive who

00:56:39.460 can't relate to this. She's a lot. And I, I teed up just a little sampling of what I am referring to

00:56:46.380 watch.

00:56:47.800 May I finish responding please? But you have to let me finish. I'm in the middle of responding to the

00:56:56.180 point you're raising. Okay. And I'd like to finish turning the page on rhetoric that people are

00:57:01.080 frankly exhausted of Brett. More than 70% of people. He's the one who talks about an enemy

00:57:06.020 within, within, an enemy within talking about the American people. That's not what you just

00:57:12.900 showed. He was asked about that specific. No, no, no. That's not what you just showed in all

00:57:16.380 fairness and respect to you. I'm telling you that was the question that we asked him.

00:57:19.340 You didn't show that. You say now he's unstable. He is unstable, Brett. This is a democracy.

00:57:26.120 And in a democracy, the president of the United States in the United States of America

00:57:31.500 should be willing to be able to handle criticism.

00:57:35.880 All right. No. My take on that guys is like that the young gals might be looking for like a girl

00:57:44.660 boss moment. She's already got them because they want abortions. This, she needs to get men. And you

00:57:50.800 tell me what, what man is out there. Like, I want to spend more time with that.

00:57:55.620 I mean, so I believe it was actually Roger Ailes who would point out that if you watch people on

00:58:03.400 mute, just for the body language, it's extremely telling of what's happening there. And I actually,

00:58:09.080 after I'd watched it, I muted it. It was much more enjoyable with her on mute, but

00:58:12.160 her body language, the last 30 seconds for me were just completely critical. She was back in her chair,

00:58:18.860 arms folded, just giving off as much hostility as physically possible a person can convey.

00:58:25.620 That whole interview, she basically came off as being someone who is angry, combative,

00:58:32.020 extremely unlikable. And I, she's not serving herself any favors with male voters, with female

00:58:38.600 voters, with any voting block, except for the left who has found themselves in a position where they

00:58:44.300 want to be gaslit, where they want to say, oh, she won the day. Yes. I am happy. She does not want

00:58:50.280 to answer any questions for me. Brett Baer, you know, it's sad that the state of being a great

00:58:55.600 journalist is asking questions that average American would want to know. At what point did

00:59:00.060 you notice Joe Biden had cognitive decline? One of the things that makes Brett so good at this,

00:59:04.380 at this gig is that he has this exudes his comfortability, right? And at one point she was

00:59:10.540 just trying to talk over him the whole time. And he's like, I think we're just talking over each

00:59:13.800 other. I apologize. Here's what I'm trying to ask. It's this, this disarming way as a viewer,

00:59:18.920 you watch it and you're like, oh, he's got total control of this situation. Meanwhile,

00:59:21.600 you look at her and it's like, it's just combative. Oh, all right. I've got to read

00:59:26.320 you this Holmes. So first of all, I do want to say it is, I'm going to read you this quote because

00:59:31.020 it's plays right off of what you're saying, but the opposite view, um, Brett revealed after the

00:59:36.420 interview that they got there late. They were supposed to take between five and five 30. His

00:59:40.560 show starts at six. And when you're doing what's called an as live, where you're doing an interview

00:59:44.500 that's pre-taped and you're just going to run it as was, you know, without edits, it does take some

00:59:49.800 time to ingest it into the system and to turn it. Like you can't, can't be doing that interview

00:59:54.680 up till five 58 and make air at six. Trust me, we've been in this position many times on many

01:00:00.760 shows I've done. And, uh, so it was important that it go from five to five 30 as she agreed to do.

01:00:06.100 He revealed after the fact, she didn't show up until five 15 and sat down fine. He was a pro.

01:00:11.920 He started taping it with her and that 25 minutes in instead of 30, her team was giving him the hard

01:00:18.080 rap. He said four of her staffers were behind her, like rap rap, which explains why he was like,

01:00:24.380 he even said it in the interview. Like I'm getting the hard rap here, which is so weird because it

01:00:29.960 must've been over the top because if you've got staffers telling you a hard rap is necessary,

01:00:34.600 but the candidate is speaking and going on, she's supposed to be the boss. Like she should be in

01:00:41.560 charge. If she wants it to go on, it's going to go on. I wouldn't be listening to the staffers.

01:00:45.480 So they were in a panic because they knew it wasn't going well. And they, they really tried

01:00:49.660 to F him, which by the way, did increase the time pressure on Brett. He knew he had to get

01:00:54.640 through these subjects and to stop the talking points and the non sequiturs. And he did a great

01:00:59.420 job of it. But here's what I want to read you. There's a lot of crazy media reaction, but this

01:01:03.420 guy stood out, stood out to me. He works for deadline. His name is Dominic Patton. And it's just

01:01:10.480 over the, over the top, having been roasted online by the MAGA base and anticipation of

01:01:15.580 softball questions, quote, real journalist, as the VP called him at one point, you're already

01:01:21.140 wrong, Dominic. She called him a serious journalist. So already you fucked up your facts. Um, Brett

01:01:26.680 barely let the VP get a word in during the opening part of the sit down as bear played largely to the

01:01:33.780 MAGA base and his core viewership. The veteran anchor appeared largely out of his depth challenged

01:01:41.080 on his questions and wanting to flex his own muscles bear ended up fumbling his line of questioning

01:01:48.100 and losing control of the interview to the well prepped VP as he got caught up in centering over

01:01:58.160 and over on culture war issues and Joe Biden's mental acuity.

01:02:04.080 Oh my God.

01:02:05.780 Well, Megan, you know, when I want analysis on depth, the first place I usually turn is deadline.

01:02:12.880 And I tell you how many opportunities I've had to like go to deadline and, and just doubt what is

01:02:20.500 really going on behind the scenes. You just, you, you, you don't know until you read deadline.

01:02:24.820 And one of the things that was interesting to me about the four staffers waving their hands in

01:02:29.600 the background is what subject they were covering when they did it. She was getting very weak on

01:02:34.320 Iran and they lost their mind. We can't let her keep talking about Iran because we have Iran

01:02:39.680 sympathists who are working for us. And so we can't mess that up.

01:02:43.040 They're watching Michigan poll numbers.

01:02:44.620 Good point.

01:02:45.900 Exactly.

01:02:46.500 That's a good point.

01:02:47.040 And complaining that Brett was interrupting her. Well, it, you know, you gotta make some

01:02:52.900 clarifying points during an answer in which like, they all start with, well, we really got to go

01:02:58.580 back to the signing of the treaty of Versailles before we talk about the border crisis. You know,

01:03:03.700 like she was clearly stalling for time because she didn't want to have to answer the question.

01:03:07.300 I mean, it was Brett who had to name check the bill she was referencing that would quote,

01:03:11.920 secure the border.

01:03:12.980 The U.S. Citizenship Act.

01:03:14.460 Right.

01:03:14.800 Which is an amnesty bill.

01:03:16.360 Like a border security bill.

01:03:17.540 And then she talks about, well, in the last nine months, we could have passed a bill that

01:03:21.340 would have strengthened all these things. And yes, he has to clarify, well, Lake, that doesn't

01:03:25.500 help Lake and Riley because the illegal immigrant that murdered her got in and, you know, 2022.

01:03:30.840 Yeah.

01:03:31.140 And it's like, that's the job of a journalist. I know that's uncomfortable for them that,

01:03:34.980 that she got asked real questions, but it's nice that finally.

01:03:37.760 Well, they don't know that. I mean, that's, that's the thing that's so blatantly obvious

01:03:40.760 about it. First of all, the fever swamp that the deadline guy lives in.

01:03:43.940 And you'd look at that and get the hell out as fast as possible. But, but like, they're

01:03:48.220 so unaccustomed to any sort of real pushing or questioning. I mean, look, this, this lady's

01:03:54.460 been the nominee of the democratic party since mid July. Nobody's ever asked her. I mean,

01:03:58.420 the fact that she's on stage in the first place is because of the mental decline, obviously

01:04:02.820 of her boss. Right. And that's why he got off the ticket and she's on it. That's not

01:04:06.580 an imperative question to be asked. That's the first time anybody's ever said, Hey, Connell,

01:04:10.640 did you ever notice that the guy couldn't complete a sentence? Right. Right.

01:04:13.940 The rest of the media can't do it because they were in on it. So this is the first person

01:04:18.120 she has sat with who wasn't in on it and therefore had no qualms about saying, yo, he's been in

01:04:25.420 decline for a long time and you've been vouching for him. Let me read you something on the interruptions.

01:04:30.980 I mean, this is first of all, David Plouffe, who's I think running her campaign tweeted out

01:04:35.560 right after it was over Kamala Harris strong. Now you tell me when you have to tell the people

01:04:40.220 she was strong. You don't, you don't really see Donald Trump's people tweeting out Donald Trump

01:04:46.100 strong. We know Kamala Harris strong handled an ambush Fox interview light years better than the,

01:04:54.440 the hash Donald Trump unstable made of the Fox pep rally disguised as a town hall.

01:05:00.040 So it was an ambush. According to him, Claire McCaskill, um, Brett bear was downright rude and

01:05:04.900 disrespectful. Uh, she's strong. She's strong. She, she, she tweeted Dan Pfeiffer was part of

01:05:11.920 that pod save America, right? Um, Brett bear likes to dress up as a journalist, but he is as committed

01:05:18.120 to the larger Fox news project as Hannity or Pirro. Here's this Harris, Harris handled that Fox news

01:05:24.960 interview with confidence and skill. Now try to imagine Donald Trump handling tough antagonistic

01:05:32.440 questions. You got to be kidding me. Yeah, no, it's crazy. Three months ago, they were all saying,

01:05:40.120 no, Joe Biden's a mental giant behind the scenes. Just trust us today. They're saying, oh, Kamala was

01:05:44.300 really strong. She killed it. Yeah. Well then, okay. People like Pluff and Pfeiffer are humiliating

01:05:50.500 themselves. They've already made so much money. Like the pod save guys got in trouble with their

01:05:54.720 employees going on strike because their houses are an architectural digest. Like you don't have

01:05:59.820 to humiliate yourself like this. You're already loaded. So smug, maybe we're being too hard.

01:06:04.780 Maybe they just really don't like interruptions like Claire McCaskill, all these MSNBC earth. Maybe

01:06:08.800 they really don't like interruptions as we heard on MSNBC. We heard on CNN. Oh wait, here's a little

01:06:15.080 montage to remind you. The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign.

01:06:22.420 There's no real evidence of that. Of course there is. It's all over the place. Leslie,

01:06:27.120 they spied on my campaign and they got caught. Can I say something? You know, this is 60 Minutes

01:06:32.400 and we can't put on things we can't verify. You won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.

01:06:37.800 We can't put on things we can't verify. Leslie, they spied on my campaign.

01:06:41.800 Well, we can't verify that. It's been totally verified.

01:06:43.640 You haven't asked about inflation. No, no, I'm sorry. Let's stick to this. I know,

01:06:48.780 I know. The American people want us to talk about how to make their lives better.

01:06:53.320 Why won't you say that? They don't want us to. Why won't you say that?

01:06:54.860 The unselect committee destroyed all the evidence. They say they did. I want to know about your

01:06:59.380 perspective, Mr. President. I want to ask about you now. They put out an announcement that.

01:07:02.380 I agree. You don't want to talk about policy. No, what I want to talk about. What I want to

01:07:07.000 talk about. Instead of about the fact. Senator, it was your distraction. Granted amnesty. You were

01:07:12.240 the one who started talking about eating dogs and cats. This is an attack on a political opponent.

01:07:18.040 I have another one where I have a hostile judge. Sir, if you don't mind, I'd love to. We have you

01:07:21.720 for a limited time, sir. I'd love to move on to different topics. No, excuse me. You're the one

01:07:24.660 that held me up to 35 minutes. You absolutely could re-engage folks into the American labor

01:07:31.900 market. This is- To work in construction? Of course you could. I mean, the unemployment rate

01:07:37.100 is 4.1%. But the unemployment rate, Lulu, this is important. But most people who don't work can't

01:07:42.380 work in the regular economy. Maybe they are okay, depending on who's across from the journalist

01:07:50.440 at issue. Yeah. I mean, partisanship's a hell of a drug. The problem is, is that, you know,

01:07:55.620 there aren't any Walter Cronkite's roaming around those mainstream corporate media outfits anymore.

01:08:00.400 I mean, they just don't have them. And they're so unaccustomed to any Democrat being pushed in the

01:08:06.480 same way that every single Republican is. And even on their own, like conservative networks,

01:08:11.660 like conservatives want answers to things. They don't like just want to see your face. I mean,

01:08:16.880 they want answers to things. Libs don't, but they just want power.

01:08:19.960 I would love to know what that woman considers the regular economy. I feel like that would be

01:08:24.520 really interesting. What is a regular economy?

01:08:29.600 The double standard is just so in your face. But I will say there was one line that Kamala Harris

01:08:36.000 delivered in that interview, which will come back to haunt her. I mean, I should say Trump tweeted

01:08:41.360 out the whole interview saying our latest campaign ad just dropped. But there was one line in particular,

01:08:48.260 we liked it so much, we made a button of it. Listen.

01:08:51.600 Gotta take responsibility for what happened in your administration.

01:08:55.880 There we go. Let's hear it again.

01:08:57.020 Gotta take responsibility for what happened in your administration.

01:09:00.780 What an amazing admission.

01:09:03.320 Right?

01:09:04.400 As she spends the rest of the 25 minutes discussing how she has absolutely no responsibility for the

01:09:09.360 administration that she serves in.

01:09:10.900 Right.

01:09:11.040 I mean, it's just a wild, we come back to those things. Like you mentioned on the view

01:09:15.980 when she says that she wouldn't do anything different than Biden or this clip. They're like

01:09:20.700 basic central tenets of this campaign that they have tried to work the entire messaging around

01:09:25.760 that she's new, that she's different. She'll do things different than Joe Biden, that this is a

01:09:30.140 change election and she is the change agent, whether it's generational or policy-wise or all those

01:09:34.440 things. And yet every single time that she's asked anything remotely touching those things,

01:09:39.860 she fucks it up. And it's like, dude, like, is somebody not have just one talking point? Is

01:09:45.800 there just one talking point over in the Kamala Harris campaign? We're like, every time you're

01:09:49.800 asked about something, say this.

01:09:51.880 She can't.

01:09:52.620 Oh, I mean, yes. The answer to that is yes. And we've heard it a thousand times. Here she was

01:09:56.880 with Charlemagne, the God, on his radio show yesterday, unleashing her very favorite one.

01:10:00.980 It's SOT 26. Knowing the entrepreneurship that we have in the community, the ambition,

01:10:09.240 the aspirations, the dreams. Not everybody has access to the Capitol, but we know in the

01:10:15.960 community we do not lack for ambition, aspirations, dreams, hard work ethic. My agenda is about tapping

01:10:22.760 into the ambitions and the aspirations, knowing that folks want to have an opportunity. There's a

01:10:30.960 Thank you.

01:10:31.360 Thank you. There was a couple of things that you said that people would say were talking points,

01:10:34.960 but it's really just your story, even though they are becoming your greatest hits.

01:10:38.400 Come on. Come on.

01:10:42.200 He's a pro. He tried to save her, you know?

01:10:45.300 Oh, many times. His questions were ridiculous. I actually can't believe what a bootlicking experience

01:10:55.280 it was. I would have expected a couple of tough ones. Um, why, why do you let him call you the

01:11:02.000 border czar? That wasn't your role. Why is it okay for him to say he will lock up his political

01:11:08.120 opponents, right? It's ridiculous. I mean, they all went like this. I will show you my favorite part of

01:11:13.680 that interview though, where she promises she's going to win and debuted a new accent. Take a listen.

01:11:19.640 But this is a margin of error race. It's tight. I'm going to win. I'm going to win. But it's tight.

01:11:29.640 And, you know, what is at stake is truly, uh, profound. I'm sorry, guys. Yet another one.

01:11:39.760 But like she gets in front of a largely black audience and they're, I'm going to win. I'm

01:11:44.920 going to win, girl. I mean, it's so obvious. It's so insulting. She gets away with it.

01:11:52.680 Of all the Democrat candidates to copy, she goes with Hillary Clinton being unlikable and creating

01:11:57.740 accent on the spot. Like that's not exactly the template for victory. Is that how you win black

01:12:03.600 men? You talk like that. Is that what she's doing? Like maybe we should try sending president

01:12:08.260 Obama to scold them. Maybe that'll make them think I'm less of a scold. Maybe she's just running boldly

01:12:13.740 on the platform of inauthenticity. Like that's, she's like, everybody tries to be authentic. Let

01:12:19.080 me do the exact. I'm going to see if her, but her reach out is so absurd to the black men.

01:12:24.560 This continues, right? Cause she, she thinks she can win if she can just boost those numbers

01:12:27.540 with the black men who are going more and more for Trump. And that requires going on Charlemagne's

01:12:32.140 show and talking like that. I'm going, I'm going, you tell it, girl. I hear that girl. Like, come on.

01:12:38.400 This is ridiculous. We hear you all the time. We, we know this is not how you talk. And, um, she

01:12:43.920 released her plan the other day. You saw where it's like, I know exactly what black men want.

01:12:47.580 I'm going to legalize weed. I put 1900 black people and others in jail for smoking weed or for

01:12:54.020 dealing weed out in California. But now I've seen the light. I'm going to legalize weed.

01:12:58.620 Does that appeal to you? Black men. That's what I think of you. And Van Jones, as if on cue comes in

01:13:05.120 when he sees her plan, which is like, we're going to study the diseases that affect black men. We're

01:13:10.500 going to create like special loans just for black men, which is illegal. That's not okay. You're not

01:13:15.680 allowed to do that in America under our constitution. She promptly reversed it and said, Oh, I mean,

01:13:19.780 for everyone, for everyone, which she did on Charlemagne because it's illegal to do it.

01:13:23.740 Anyway, he takes a look at her little list and look at his reaction.

01:13:29.420 Finally, Kamala Harris sent us a love letter. That was you. That might've been a policy document.

01:13:36.560 I read that as a love letter from Kamala Harris to black men who need some love,

01:13:43.380 black men who need some respect, black men who need some concern and some care and consideration.

01:13:49.100 You know, we, we need some mamala from Kamala and we got that.

01:13:56.940 How about jobs? How about a better income? How about a better shot at exactly what you want?

01:14:03.980 It's like, I, what I don't understand is her pandering is like, I've never seen anything like

01:14:11.100 it. And it's not just the accent. It's not just the made up lines. It's not just the endless string

01:14:16.880 of prepositional phrases. It's like saying what she thinks people want to hear. And it's,

01:14:21.960 they're just like, Hey, how, how about a better life for me and my family?

01:14:25.220 Yeah. No, I, it's condescending to a hundred percent. I mean, well, you start with the drug

01:14:29.700 legalization thing. Like, okay. All right. Well, that's certainly an assumption that you've made

01:14:34.400 Kamala Harris about our community. But then you have these like nickel and dime, $25,000,

01:14:39.420 whatever, $50,000, small business write-offs and all of these things. And then they're like,

01:14:45.140 none of which she'll get through with the divided government.

01:14:47.500 But remember, I mean, look, the Biden administration actually tried to do this

01:14:51.580 with black farmers. It wasn't until the Supreme court stepped in and was like, Hey, by the way,

01:14:56.020 there is like a mountain of civil rights leaders that fought for the whole idea that we can't award

01:15:00.860 race-based consideration of tax dollars in this country. And like, I don't know, they sort of had

01:15:05.940 a pretty good point and they threw the whole thing out and she's like, no, we'll try that again. Oh,

01:15:09.600 wait, can't do that. Sorry. I mean, it's just, sorry. My plan is falling apart within days of

01:15:16.700 announcing, I mean, hours of announcing it. Um, I do want to get back just for a minute to the media

01:15:21.620 reaction to her interview last night, because we've been hearing more and more, um, the, her

01:15:28.600 supporters mentioned the woman thing. It wasn't just Barack Obama. We've been, I heard on the New York

01:15:32.740 Times, the daily podcast the other day, like more and more, they're trying to attribute whatever

01:15:36.140 problems she's having in the, in the polls to, you know, the country doesn't like women. Women

01:15:43.540 can't make it in America. And, uh, here was the most explicit version I heard from Anand, Anand

01:15:50.660 Jir Haradas. He's an NYU professor and an MSNBC contributor. And here was his reaction this morning

01:15:59.260 to the Fox news interview, but it was almost interruptionism last night. I was watching

01:16:05.100 this and it was like, this is, this is interruption as an art form interruption. And it felt like it's

01:16:10.280 hard to feel like interruption as a metaphor for, uh, uh, a rising new America, new generation of

01:16:16.880 leadership, a woman, a person of color in Kamala Harris trying to speak. And this kind of figure of

01:16:23.880 the old guard, uh, who was offended at the notion that her voice had a volume, right? That her vocal

01:16:30.300 chords made sound, uh, invited her on the show and then was very, very angry that he could hear her.

01:16:37.020 Um, and it just felt like a metaphor for a, a minority in this country that is angry at the notion

01:16:43.900 that a rising pluralist, more pluralist new America is speaking, is around, is here and a desire to

01:16:51.600 interrupt not just a person, but the future. Uh, and I actually don't think the future will be

01:16:55.840 interrupted. So this guy is a complete moron. And I think Americans are really fed up with this kind

01:17:06.420 of game where it really started during the Obama presidency, but saying everything is racism. This

01:17:13.780 is white supremacy. This is sexism. This is misogyny. We're no longer in a place where we have an

01:17:20.360 economy where we're allowed to have this kind of luxury of this made up garbage to be a concern for

01:17:25.400 Americans. We have Western North Carolina underwater. Americans are paying 8% on mortgages.

01:17:31.420 They don't want to hear a message that actually you're a racist and America is a terrible country

01:17:35.820 and they keep trying to play this. And it just, that strategy is not going to work anymore.

01:17:40.320 There's actual serious concerns for Americans. The border is wide open. Americans are getting murdered.

01:17:45.300 There's, there's houses, there's buildings being taken over by gangs from Venezuela.

01:17:49.340 And you have Martha rats who says, well, I mean, it's only a few buildings, JD that have been taken

01:17:54.660 over. And for these people to try to cover for an idiot, this is Kamala Harris is not only

01:18:01.720 unprepared to be dangerous to have such a moron in office unprepared for even meeting with Brett

01:18:07.060 bear, let alone run the country. And they're trying to play the racism card. Americans are fed up with

01:18:10.760 that. I don't know. Smug. I think a lot of, you know, Trump, Trump voters who might watch that

01:18:15.740 would be very compelled to believe what that character from the hunger games movie told me.

01:18:22.100 Honestly, I couldn't even listen to what he was saying. I was like, dude, pull your finger out

01:18:25.060 of the lights out. What is that hair? What the hell? That was a lot. Unbelievable. There was a lot

01:18:29.180 of hair going on there, but it's not just a nod. Um, I'll give you an example of what we've been

01:18:33.240 hearing in recent days is her poll numbers struggle in state after state. Watch.

01:18:37.780 You just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president. That's what being a man is?

01:18:46.180 Putting women down? That's not exciting. I think what weighs Kamala Harris down

01:18:53.080 are two things that are obvious that distinguishes her from, say, a Hillary Clinton or a Joe Biden or

01:18:59.520 even a Barack Obama. This is a woman of color. And he's asking people who are the most racist of

01:19:06.260 this country to support him. I'm on a Trump 47 bus. I'm a Latino. He has me on that bus.

01:19:12.480 That means you're okay with racism. It doesn't mean he's not racist.

01:19:15.820 We do have a fascist groundswell in parts of this country, mainly among white men, let's be clear,

01:19:22.560 but in small pockets among black and brown men too. This happens to be a global phenomenon

01:19:28.160 as women become more economically independent and seek positions of power.

01:19:32.780 But somehow it's a tight race comes down to race and comes down to gender. Like if Kamala was a rich

01:19:39.040 white man, the race probably wouldn't be as close. This country still has an uninvestigated race

01:19:43.880 problem that we are afraid to investigate. There's a reason why America has the same

01:19:48.520 number of female presidents as the Taliban. There's a certain type of person who thinks

01:19:55.180 that voting for a woman makes you less of a man. Comparing this country to the Taliban.

01:20:01.740 I mean, it's just it look time after time after time. It is the last leftist refuge of a losing

01:20:09.800 argument. Every time they get behind the eight ball, whether it's a policy argument or whether

01:20:14.400 it's a campaign argument or something, it's always racism and sexism. It has to be because certainly

01:20:19.440 our leftist ideas that have bankrupted more countries around this world over the last 50

01:20:24.500 years than anything else aren't the problem. Yeah. And certainly it can't be the problem that

01:20:28.360 we nominated an absolute idiot. I mean, there are millions of women in this country who have no

01:20:33.180 problem getting their point across. I live with four of them and I'm on TV. I don't understand why

01:20:40.300 they're like, oh, no, they're against women. No, we're against that one. You know, she's she's a

01:20:45.960 moron. Can you think think about how the other leaders around the world are talking? We've talked

01:20:51.240 about this on the show. They make fun of her amongst themselves. Our enemies are like, yeah,

01:20:55.720 I hope Kamala wins so that America steps down a notch and it gives us a competitive advantage.

01:21:00.540 But don't you think, fellas, and we talked a little bit about this this week on our show,

01:21:04.020 Megan, don't you think that when they go to this last refuge, when they get to the point where you're

01:21:08.820 all just a bunch of sexists or the argument that Barack Obama was making, isn't that basically

01:21:13.740 what has pushed men away to begin? I mean, exactly. That's the thing. It's like

01:21:18.000 what man in America wants to be nagged and guilted into accepting that they're the problem

01:21:24.240 like in all of this, like it's not what we all see in with our eyes every single day

01:21:28.760 that somehow like, oh, once again, look, we looked into it, looked at the evidence and you're the

01:21:33.600 problem. And it's like, I feel like the men of America are tired of that. Back to Smug's point,

01:21:37.860 there's real problems, the economy, North Carolina being underwater. And it's like, we're not going to

01:21:42.900 take this bullshit anymore. That's right. I really think that the average American,

01:21:48.060 they're smart. They may not be, you know, well-educated or quote book smart in all cases,

01:21:54.320 but that they have street smarts, they have instincts. And that's why they make good jurors.

01:21:59.480 And you, you know, I've, I've tried cases in front of juries before and you have a witness up there who

01:22:04.160 is like kind of slimy in like they're wiggling in response to the questions. It's a gift. You almost

01:22:11.460 don't, you don't need to nail them down as the questioner. You just need to ask the question,

01:22:16.500 maybe twice, possibly a third time, depending on how important it is just to show the jury.

01:22:22.040 He won't answer. You can, I don't have to club you over the head with it. You see it. I see it.

01:22:28.220 And that was the sin she committed last night. She wouldn't answer on the three and a half years

01:22:33.960 that she did nothing about the border. She wouldn't answer on the trans prisoners thing,

01:22:38.380 which should be a very easy answer for her. She wouldn't answer about Biden's mental acuity

01:22:44.180 and what she saw and what they saw was somebody who was wiggly and didn't want to be straight with

01:22:51.400 them that she did blow an opportunity both because she wouldn't take positions on issues that are

01:22:56.840 important. And because she telegraphed to them, I can't be trusted. I won't level with you.

01:23:02.040 So I'm really just a Democrat operative, you know, but I'm going to win. I'm going to win.

01:23:08.680 I think that's entirely right. I mean, we joke about this all the time. The American people are

01:23:12.500 often way, way, way ahead of not only where politicians are, but the media that are attempting

01:23:17.700 to report on them. You look at things like Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. I mean, the reason he

01:23:21.980 didn't take a nosedive in the polls when all that stuff came out is people were like, man, I knew the

01:23:26.400 minute that thing came up, what would happen? Like I got it. Right. Or like you look at like the

01:23:30.780 Stormy Daniels thing. People are just shocked and aghast that that whole trial where she's

01:23:35.020 testifying didn't hurt Donald Trump. People were like, dude, we got it. We already processed all

01:23:40.500 six years ago. You know what I mean? They know what's happening. They know when somebody is not

01:23:45.100 giving them a straight answer, which is precisely what she did in every question.

01:23:49.000 Right. It's one thing I've talked to the audience before about bridging away. They taught us this as

01:23:52.640 young lawyers, how to bridge when a judge asks you a question that's just terrible for your side.

01:23:57.480 Right. And you do have to do that sometimes. And politicians do it all the time. And Trump does

01:24:01.500 it. And I get it. But you cannot do that on the core issues of this election, like immigration and

01:24:08.140 why you didn't do anything about it. You know, and the trans thing has totally exploded in the last few

01:24:13.680 weeks of this. It's like becoming one of the top issues. And it's terrible for them. So she was just

01:24:20.240 as wiggly on that, even though it's very clear where she stands. And it just leaves you with this

01:24:24.500 feeling of like, I don't trust her. I know she's hiding something. That's not how people want to

01:24:29.700 feel or stand by. I'm going to take a break and come back. I've got to ask you what the latest

01:24:33.340 polls and what, where you guys think this race stands now less than three weeks from voting day.

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01:26:27.320 I realized that at this point in the game, it's dangerous to look at polls for anything.

01:26:31.880 The only one that matters is on November 5th, but I'm going to do it anyway. What the hell?

01:26:36.120 The latest are showing some weird things, guys. Marist has got Harris up nationally plus five

01:26:43.580 over Trump. Among independents, they've got Trump up 10 points over Harris, and that's up six points

01:26:53.380 for Trump since their last poll. So he gained six points with independents, but he's trailing her in

01:26:57.740 the overall by five. And then 1776 projects, Ryan Gerdusky tweeted out, if you're seeing this and

01:27:06.300 wondering how this can be, it's because the sample size was D plus seven. D plus seven puts her up five

01:27:14.060 points over him in the national. That's crazy. Who goes to the poll that has a seven percentage

01:27:20.340 point favor towards Democrats and who they ask? Same thing with this Fox poll that's getting

01:27:25.320 attention today. Has her, um, down two points in the overall to Trump, but then without providing

01:27:33.120 the cross tabs, they say, however, she's ahead by six points among voters from the seven battlegrounds.

01:27:41.820 What does that mean? It's up six points. He's so she's beating him by six points among voters in

01:27:49.560 a seven battlegrounds without providing any cross tabs or information. But if you dig like into the

01:27:55.100 last one, guess what the margin of error is on that poll? 6.5 percentage points. It's totally useless.

01:28:03.540 So what is this? This is garbage. Fox polling is usually better than this. This is disgusting.

01:28:07.320 This is like, it's a lie. So I don't know what to think. I'll give you just two more Quinnipiac

01:28:13.020 battleground polling. Just that just dropped shows Trump up seven in Georgia over her. Uh,

01:28:20.960 he had been up five and in North Carolina, which is a redder state shows her up two. Whereas in the

01:28:29.180 September 29th poll, he'd been up one. So a lot of people are saying online, these polls make no sense.

01:28:34.840 How can North Carolina be more blue than Georgia? What do you guys make of it?

01:28:41.380 Yeah. I mean, look, a couple of things off the top. First of all, national polling is absolute

01:28:44.840 garbage at this point because their universe is including a whole bunch of coastal people. Their

01:28:48.640 electoral votes have long been since counted. Right. So you got to throw out all your national

01:28:53.480 polls and look for these battleground things. Here's let me just say is a jumping off point.

01:28:58.580 And then we can talk about these specific things. Polling gets really jumpy in the month of October.

01:29:03.860 You have every media organization in the country that is pulling all of these things. You've got

01:29:08.620 every campaign statewide. You've got the presidentials, you have the super PAC supporting

01:29:13.320 said campaigns, and then you have these like independent, uh, pollsters out there doing it.

01:29:17.900 So your average sample that you need to get, you know, what is reflective of a universe of actual

01:29:23.180 voters is penetrated like 17 different times in any given week. And how many people do you know,

01:29:30.200 Megan that spend Friday night, 35 minutes talking to a random pollster about all their thoughts and

01:29:36.320 dreams as it, as it pertains to the electorate. There's really a small number of people that will

01:29:40.860 actually do that. So when you have that kind of inundation, it makes it increasingly difficult

01:29:45.780 to actually get good numbers out of it. And that's why you see October stuff start jumping around. I

01:29:50.980 mean, in the industry, the way that I prefer to do it, if you're trying to make a decision in terms of

01:29:55.920 messaging or something else is something we call tracking, which basically leaves it open where

01:30:00.700 you're, you're constantly pulling each and every night because it averages out your three or five

01:30:05.760 day role. So if you get a real bad night or real good night, you can see everything kind of averaged

01:30:10.320 out over the middle. Now, of course, media organizations don't do that. It's incredibly expensive to do,

01:30:15.160 but therefore it really doesn't give you an accurate sense of where polls are.

01:30:20.000 I'll tell you this. I don't know what the polls are telling us, but it does look like both sides

01:30:26.540 this year are taking to early voting. Like the numbers look big, at least down in Georgia,

01:30:32.680 they had record breaking early voting. And I realized that the Democrats think this is better

01:30:37.920 for them because it is record breaking. But I'm just not so sure because Trump recently switched to

01:30:44.860 recently, frankly, switched from only vote on election day to urging his supporters to do it

01:30:51.080 early, do the mail-in voting, do the early voting. And I've heard Charlie Kirk of Turning Point say the

01:30:56.780 same. It's got Georgia and Arizona in particular, get out, get out and vote early and that they like

01:31:03.360 what they're seeing so far. So I'm not sure what to believe, but I do think this election is a little

01:31:08.040 unlike the last two where Republicans are less skeptical of the mail-in voting. What do you guys think?

01:31:13.140 Well, historically, Republicans have been able to win in the early vote.

01:31:18.500 Pre-Trump era, it was like our thing. Yeah.

01:31:21.340 And I really hope that we make the significant push. I remember four years ago when we had to

01:31:26.600 deal with that heartbreak, people were like, listen, we're going to use all the tactics that

01:31:30.520 Democrats did of early voting, of ballot harvesting, everything. Now's our time to follow through on

01:31:35.920 that. How bad it felt losing that election. We need to make them feel, the Democrats, when we use

01:31:41.940 that same tactic. We need to swamp the vote. Right now, today is the first day of early voting in

01:31:47.100 North Carolina. Every single person there needs to go cast your vote for Trump. You don't know

01:31:51.120 what's going to happen election day. You saw natural disasters can come through. It could snow. You

01:31:55.340 don't know what's going to happen on election day. Get that vote in. The secretary of state shows you

01:31:59.900 online that your vote has been counted. There can be no excuse to lose this election to Kamala Harris.

01:32:05.760 We need to get those votes in for Trump now. Get them in the bag.

01:32:08.540 And there is some good news for Republicans out of the early vote. I mean, there was a data point

01:32:13.880 out of Pennsylvania yesterday that showed the Democrats are turning out at 900,000 votes fewer

01:32:19.840 than it turned out at this point in the 2020 race. So maybe Democrats aren't as enthusiastic about

01:32:26.400 Kamala as they had hoped their electorate. And 2020 is going to be your high watermark for the

01:32:32.420 disparity between Democrats and Republicans with absentee by mail and early vote. So any little

01:32:38.520 improvement by Republicans in all of these battleground states is going to make a massive

01:32:42.180 difference on election day. And remember, 2020 was decided by 40,000 votes over seven states.

01:32:47.760 I mean, you're talking about slim, slim markets.

01:32:50.140 Yeah. I mean, look, Megan, it really is the difference between winning and losing here. I mean,

01:32:53.980 what Duncan just said, 40,000 votes over seven states. The difference between losing an election

01:32:59.980 and an electoral landslide is less than 100,000 votes. It's less than 100,000. And so if you think

01:33:06.740 about sort of making a plan to vote and Republicans, I think are, it seems like they're doing a good job

01:33:13.860 of trying to emphasize that, but banking those votes early, getting them in and then repressing,

01:33:18.820 trying to figure out where the field of persuadable voters are, both set. It saves the campaign

01:33:23.940 in an incredible amount of resources. But two, it just, the certainty involved is so much better.

01:33:31.700 We don't have to deal with natural disasters or anything that could happen on election day that

01:33:36.120 you can't get to the polls. But that's such a good point. That's why people like Charlie

01:33:40.360 want the voters, and because he's helping with this get out the vote effort, the want voters in

01:33:45.320 Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona to get out early because once they know that they've banked that

01:33:50.720 person's vote, they can move on to targeting people who might be fence sitting, you know,

01:33:56.140 who they've called on once or twice, but are low propensity voters who they, they got to put all

01:34:01.300 their resources. Charlie Kirk's going to personally show up at your house and ask you to come vote for

01:34:06.000 Donald Trump with him. But it does help them like consider it's not just like, Oh, do it just in case.

01:34:11.460 It's like, no, do it because it will help the people who are on the ground stumping for Trump,

01:34:16.400 trying to get voters out there know where to concentrate their efforts. That's a very good

01:34:20.700 point. Can I ask you this? So where, how do you like the odds here? You know, less than three

01:34:26.780 weeks to go. I, what's going to happen? What do you think? I'd, I'd rather be Trump than Kamala.

01:34:33.660 Obviously a lot of this depends on what we just discussed, but if you look at where things have

01:34:37.920 settled out and over the last 10 days, you look at some trend lines in places like Michigan and

01:34:42.200 Wisconsin in particular, Trump's got multiple pathways to win provided he wins Georgia and North

01:34:48.220 Carolina. If he wins Pennsylvania, this thing's over it's done. Right. But he doesn't need to

01:34:52.880 win Pennsylvania. You could also win Wisconsin and Arizona and it's two 72. So, I mean, there's,

01:34:57.760 there's a bunch of different pathways for him. There are zero pathways for her without Pennsylvania.

01:35:03.440 She's got to have it. It is neck and neck. You heard the numbers from the early vote. I mean,

01:35:08.580 I like to have options. I like if I'm a campaign at this stage, I like to have options and it doesn't

01:35:13.420 feel like she's got a lot. Yeah. And I'll tell you, Megan, there is another number that really

01:35:17.540 sticks out to me. It's the one that Brett quoted last night. 80% of the people in this country think

01:35:22.720 that we're on the wrong track and that is bad news for the party who's been in power for 12 of the

01:35:27.800 last 16 years. They've, they've, they've made every single bad thing that's happened for us. And I think

01:35:33.320 people just want change. And what Trump did, he led with authority. He was strong and our economy

01:35:39.700 was pretty good when he was in charge. Yeah. And I said it on ruthless on, on the last episode,

01:35:45.340 but like outside of the polling, polling obviously informs what we think is happening in a campaign.

01:35:49.940 But the other thing that informs our opinion is what the campaigns are doing. Yeah. And Kamala Harris,

01:35:55.080 you know, going to Fox news, swinging wild, trying anything she can to squeeze out extra votes

01:36:01.140 tells you they're desperate, that they know that they're behind with no central messaging either.

01:36:05.260 Right today, black men day, right. You would never take that risk knowing your candidate is

01:36:09.600 Kamala Harris and put her on Fox news unless you knew it was desperation. Hail Mary time.

01:36:13.760 Yeah. You should have a central thesis that you're pushing across the finish line. Totally. At this

01:36:18.400 point, everybody should know exactly what it is that you're saying before you say it when you're

01:36:21.880 within 20 days of an election. Right. Hers is every day is something new. And I think that is new.

01:36:27.280 Yeah. Like a brand new policy that she's unveiling for black men only. It's like, what?

01:36:31.920 This is all new. Where, where was this?

01:36:34.320 I mean, that's just that like we are now just a couple of weeks from election day. You're closing

01:36:41.680 the deal. You're not pitching it. She's like, uh, this is my policy proposal for this. And I'm going

01:36:46.740 to hand this group a million dollars. Wait, that's illegal. Uh, I guess it's for everyone.

01:36:51.260 She like, you see what Donald Trump is doing out at these rallies. He's saying now's the time to vote.

01:36:57.560 He's closing the deal. Kamala is trying to figure out what she's offering.

01:37:02.160 And that's the other thing he's defending his policies. And well, that his appearance with

01:37:07.200 the Bloomberg guy the other day was amazing. I'm just going to show the audience a little bit.

01:37:12.100 We put a little montage. It's my favorite sound of the week. Watch.

01:37:16.120 You are running out enormous debt. What is the wall street journal now? I'm meeting with them

01:37:20.280 tomorrow. What is the wall street journal that they've been wrong about everything? So have you,

01:37:23.660 by the way, you've been wrong. You're trying to turn this. You're trying to turn this. You've been

01:37:28.180 wrong. No, you're trying to turn. You're trying to turn this into debate. There's a, there are

01:37:32.300 business people. There are business people. You want to keep Jerome Powell as chair of the Federal

01:37:36.660 Reserve. His term as chair runs on to May, 2026. Would you seek to remove, remove or demote him?

01:37:44.620 Look, I think it's the greatest job in government. You show up to the office once a month and you say,

01:37:51.940 let's see, flip a coin. And everybody talks about you like you're a god. Oh, what will he do?

01:37:58.800 Gavin Newsom, he's the governor of California. He signed Newsom, I call him.

01:38:05.460 But do you, do you think? No, he corrected me. He corrected me. I said, that's the first time I've

01:38:09.680 been corrected. There are CEOs out here. If they said those sort of things about a rival CEO,

01:38:14.140 they'd be, they'd be sacked. Do you think it's fine? I know, but they don't have to survive like me.

01:38:17.320 They don't have to go through what I have to go through.

01:38:21.680 So right. I loved his last answer.

01:38:25.760 Like that audience, that's the Economic Club of Chicago, like the gentleman mentioned,

01:38:29.660 these are CEOs and business leaders in the audience and they are cheering for Trump.

01:38:33.400 Yeah. He got a standing O.

01:38:35.340 And also like you go into-

01:38:36.620 Totally confident and facile with the facts, you guys, unlike his opponent.

01:38:41.080 Exactly. That's a, that's a point I was going to make. I mean, these,

01:38:43.440 this is a crew that is not predispositioned to like what it is that he's selling from a populist

01:38:48.180 economic agenda. And he did it. He went into the, that, that's what the belly of the beast looks

01:38:53.240 like. It's certainly not sitting across the table from a journalist. It was amazing to hear him say,

01:38:57.900 but they don't have to go through what I do. Exactly right. He's got to fight. And if he has

01:39:02.800 to fight dirty, then so be it. That's what they do with him. A pleasure, gentlemen. Great to see you.

01:39:08.520 Always awesome. You're doing great. Thank you, Maggie.

01:39:10.460 Ah, thanks guys. Uh, okay. So to be continued, we're going to be back tomorrow and we saved

01:39:17.360 Doug Emhoff's latest media appearance for our guest. Then it's Maureen Callahan. She's going

01:39:24.240 to have thoughts. She's been writing about it. There's so much news right now. Thank you for

01:39:29.360 trusting us and we'll do it all over again tomorrow. See you then.

01:39:35.040 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 17, 2024

Kamala's Fox Debacle is Missed Opportunity, and Media Smears Voters and Baier as Sexist, with Ruthless Hosts ｜ Ep. 919

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