The Megyn Kelly Show - Karine Jean-Pierre Undermines Her Entire Book, Ghouls at ＂No Kings,＂ and Wind Farm Danger, with Stu Burguiere and Rep. Van Drew ｜ Ep. 1176

00:00:00.580 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.260 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.980 Okay, so it is Tuesday, October 21st, and Corrine Jean-Pierre is a black woman.

00:00:21.420 Just want you to know that. She's black. 1.00

00:00:23.760 Starting every interview she's giving to promote her big book by saying,

00:00:26.660 I'm black, I'm a black woman. I am never giving an interview again without saying,

00:00:31.800 I'm white, I just want to start this interview by noting I have white skin.

00:00:39.300 Think about it. She's such an absurd person. We know. We have eyes.

00:00:48.060 Like she got white hair and now she thinks we're confused.

00:00:51.820 We know you're black. It's fine. You get a gold star. All right? 0.97

00:00:57.260 Like, what is your point?

00:00:59.520 By the way, just because you're black doesn't make you the spokesperson for black people.

00:01:03.260 Because that seems to be how she's using it.

00:01:05.340 Like, I, as a black woman, now speak for black people.

00:01:08.920 No, you don't. You don't.

00:01:11.960 There's a lot going on today.

00:01:13.540 We're really looking forward to getting to the Corrine Jean-Pierre piece of it for you.

00:01:17.520 But we also have a great report that we have literally been working on for over a year.

00:01:24.760 We've got it boiled down to Justice Essentials.

00:01:26.900 And it's on the insane, radical environmental agenda that was approved under Joe Biden that

00:01:33.320 President Trump is pulling back, has decimated when it comes to those grotesque failures they call wind turbines.

00:01:41.600 Those things are going down and we have an investigative report we've been working on, a bit of a surprise.

00:01:48.420 And then Congressman Jeff Van Drew, who's been all over this stuff and who we have to thank for the end of these things.

00:01:55.200 He's going to join us at the end of the show.

00:01:57.160 So we're looking forward to that.

00:01:58.080 But first, we have found even more crazy moments from the No Kings rallies where the left once again shows how comfortable it is with violent rhetoric aimed at conservatives.

00:02:07.060 And then there's Corrine Jean-Pierre.

00:02:09.880 She's giving Kamala Harris a run for her money. 1.00

00:02:12.360 Doug and I, this morning, we were listening to AM Update, our morning podcast that we release on our podcast feed.

00:02:18.120 Thank you all for making it a hit.

00:02:21.340 Doug and I listened to it, even though I know it's on there.

00:02:23.460 It's fun for me to listen to it, too, with all the sound bites inserted because I don't get to hear all of those in advance.

00:02:27.540 I see them, like, transcribed on the script, but I haven't heard all of them necessarily when I tape it.

00:02:32.840 Anyway, we sit there with our coffee, which is how I picture you guys listening to it.

00:02:35.960 And we listened to it, like, before we started the day.

00:02:39.140 And he was listening to this Corrine Jean-Pierre sound bite that we ran on it this morning.

00:02:42.800 And he said, there should be some sort of a calculator.

00:02:45.520 Like, how many words in every sentence actually have meaning?

00:02:50.180 You know, like, what's your percentage?

00:02:51.420 And you should get rated as a public speaker for what your percentage is.

00:02:55.120 You know, it should be at least over 90 percent should have use, should be, have some utility, should be driving toward a point.

00:03:01.800 We both agreed Corrine Jean-Pierre is probably around the 10 percent level in every sentence.

00:03:06.100 Only about 10 percent of her words are necessary.

00:03:08.940 And then we had a debate about whether who would be lower on this scale, Corrine or Kamala.

00:03:13.340 And we both settled on Kamala, definitely.

00:03:15.680 But KJP giving her a run for the money for the worst book tour and worst promotion around it for the year. 0.81

00:03:22.660 I mean, perhaps beyond.

00:03:24.920 Since yesterday's show, our show, KJP has been on Colbert, Morning Joe and The View.

00:03:30.500 And you may not believe the lies coming out of her mouth.

00:03:35.460 I mean, truly, she's managed to stun even us.

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00:04:54.220 Stu, welcome back.

00:04:56.280 Thank you, Megan, and thank you for your bravery of hosting a white, straight, cis male on your show. 0.65

00:05:02.920 Just, I'm glad you started with that.

00:05:05.820 Just, let's all say our colors.

00:05:07.360 Stu?

00:05:08.020 Mm-hmm.

00:05:08.440 Mm-hmm.

00:05:09.080 My pronouns, I am a white male.

00:05:10.820 I have white skin.

00:05:11.920 My skin color is white.

00:05:13.180 Did you know I'm white?

00:05:15.620 Mine couldn't be whiter.

00:05:17.520 Super white. 0.73

00:05:18.560 And I like dudes.

00:05:20.540 Okay.

00:05:21.560 So, she won't be stopped.

00:05:24.160 And I have to say, I'm here for it.

00:05:26.660 I'm going to pick the dumbest comment that she's made yet.

00:05:30.440 But, um, it's actually a lie.

00:05:33.300 I can't find out which, I can't tell from the soundbite list which one it is.

00:05:36.560 Can you guys put out, roll the one, which is obviously the lie about which White House she's speaking for,

00:05:42.240 which was told on Morning Joe today.

00:05:44.560 Because let's keep in mind that the name of her book is Independent.

00:05:48.940 Give it to me again, Steve.

00:05:51.400 Independent.

00:05:51.880 And the sub, Inside a Broken White House.

00:05:58.240 Okay?

00:05:58.660 So, that's her title.

00:06:00.640 Inside, A Look Inside a Broken White House.

00:06:05.060 Watch this.

00:06:06.740 Right here in the subhead is a broken White House.

00:06:09.940 And if it's not questions about his health, what made it a broken White House?

00:06:13.640 So, the Broken White House is about this current moment.

00:06:15.880 It's like, talk about the story of my personal side of the story of what happened.

00:06:20.560 And what I saw as White House press secretary.

00:06:22.580 I think I can speak to it more in a different way, more personally even, than most people.

00:06:27.400 So, tell us what you saw day in and day out.

00:06:28.800 And so, the Broken White House is the White House that is currently in,

00:06:32.780 obviously has the administration, the Trump administration, and what I'm seeing.

00:06:36.260 Do you believe that?

00:06:40.420 She now wants us to believe that when she refers to a broken White House,

00:06:45.420 she's talking about the Trump White House, even though the subtitle of the book is

00:06:50.000 An Inside Look at It.

00:06:52.600 Since when is she inside the Trump White House? 0.85

00:06:55.880 This is an obvious lie to try to minimize the blowback she's getting from Team Blue

00:07:02.580 for her inane book in which she says she's leaving the Democrat Party

00:07:07.740 because she's so mad about what they did to poor Joe Biden.

00:07:12.640 So, now she's trying to distance herself from her written, printed criticisms of the Democrat Party

00:07:20.200 by saying what she's really arguing is this current White House is the broken one.

00:07:26.160 How she got inside, nobody knows, Stu.

00:07:29.520 Maybe she created a tunnel before she left and she climbed back in and saw all of these things from the inside.

00:07:35.900 We don't know.

00:07:36.460 We haven't read the book yet, Megan.

00:07:37.960 She's like the Louvre bank robbers, the Louvre robbers, right?

00:07:42.380 That's her ladder. 0.99

00:07:43.700 She broke in some window.

00:07:44.960 She's inside peering at Trump and Melania.

00:07:48.100 I don't think so.

00:07:49.100 She's not clever enough. 1.00

00:07:51.020 Apparently, that's what it is.

00:07:52.140 I don't know because she was not inside the White House under Donald Trump.

00:07:56.000 And, of course, you're right.

00:07:56.780 This is just another justification.

00:07:58.560 And, you know, it reminds us all of the Corinne Jean-Pierre experience, which is she was uniquely bad at her job. 0.89

00:08:09.300 Yeah, it is.

00:08:10.380 It was.

00:08:10.900 It was a very scary, terrifying ride.

00:08:13.540 She's uniquely bad at the job that she held, right? 1.00

00:08:16.300 Like, I don't know.

00:08:17.140 Maybe there's something in our society she could do well. 0.83

00:08:20.800 I can't identify what it would be, but there might be something that she could do.

00:08:26.960 As a spokesperson, she is legitimately horrible at this job. 1.00

00:08:32.360 I mean, you remember she was reading constantly every single note that she would say when she was speaking to the press anyway.

00:08:38.880 And to see this now where she doesn't have those talking points, she can't read out of her own book, I suppose, when she's on the air, she's sort of like she has to regress to just whatever thought pops into her head.

00:08:50.300 And as we've seen, there's not a lot of those.

00:08:53.140 There's not a lot to choose from.

00:08:54.740 It gets generated by that brain.

00:08:57.180 And so what she does, I think, is important to highlight what you hit at the beginning.

00:09:01.640 She winds up just identifying herself, right?

00:09:05.500 Like, when she can't speak to the actual truth, she just says, I'm black.

00:09:10.640 I'm LGBTQQIA2+.

00:09:13.560 Think of all the things, all the different ways that you can look at me and look at my behavior and identify.

00:09:19.380 I'm a woman.

00:09:20.040 It's all about how she identifies herself rather than the substance of what she's saying because there's almost never substance in what she's saying.

00:09:27.500 So it's like the sort of the comedy of force field, force field, you know, we're like, you can't touch me.

00:09:34.880 So she just starts out with the protective force field, black, black woman. 1.00

00:09:38.760 And then she drops in queer, which, I mean, what the hell is that anyway? 1.00

00:09:42.560 Queer is out. 0.93

00:09:43.380 It's out.

00:09:44.060 Even the kids are rejecting it now.

00:09:45.500 We just saw that study that like the young kids on college campuses have rejected queer.

00:09:49.480 Sorry.

00:09:50.180 You're going to have to go going to have to go back to making the cue just questioning, which also doesn't deserve its own letter.

00:09:55.560 It's really just LGB.

00:09:57.820 All right.

00:09:58.440 You're going to have to pick one.

00:09:59.700 Corrine seems like L for you for many reasons.

00:10:05.680 She's got to go with queer, queer, queer. 0.99

00:10:07.780 Here's just one example.

00:10:09.300 This is her on Morning Joe.

00:10:11.100 Another shot.

00:10:12.060 Three.

00:10:12.260 And for me, as a black woman, as a person who's also LGBTQ, I feel as if those communities that I am part of largely get taken for granted.

00:10:26.640 And I see that today in groups that are being thrown under the bus for a short term win.

00:10:34.360 And it is not the big tent party that I loved and enjoyed and was part of and fought for.

00:10:42.540 And so for me, I want to start a conversation with how do we fix this?

00:10:47.440 The system is indeed broken.

00:10:49.320 The two-party system is not functioning in the way where our democracy is being protected right now.

00:10:54.140 I feel as if the Democratic Party right now is too timid.

00:10:59.180 They're not speaking up.

00:11:00.900 We need to be, they need to have a strategy and be really clear about how they're moving forward in this moment.

00:11:07.640 No one knows what you are talking about.

00:11:11.600 Even your leftist comrades have no clue.

00:11:15.040 They want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

00:11:16.760 They want to agree with you.

00:11:18.380 No one knows what you are saying.

00:11:20.280 Stu, let me give you another one.

00:11:21.340 Similar messaging over here on The View.

00:11:24.480 Everyone's confused.

00:11:25.780 Here it is sought to be.

00:11:27.760 There were 7 million people that showed up at the No Kings rally.

00:11:30.560 It grew by millions from the first to the second to the third.

00:11:33.680 Where's the Democratic Party in doing the same and peaceful protesting?

00:11:37.860 Why are there not more lawsuits from the Democratic Party?

00:11:42.000 They need to take action on behalf of the American people, the people who are fearful.

00:11:46.980 And it's not throwing us under the bus.

00:11:48.620 It's not throwing black women under the bus. 1.00

00:11:49.860 It's not throwing LGBTQ community under the bus.

00:11:51.600 It's not throwing migrants and immigrants under the bus.

00:11:53.260 It's saying, no, you know what?

00:11:55.180 I just remembered.

00:11:56.600 We are a big tent party.

00:11:59.260 Right.

00:11:59.620 And it is about your moral compass in this moment, not about politics.

00:12:04.760 And you have to bring the country with you.

00:12:08.000 Oh, my God.

00:12:08.920 She's such an idiot. 1.00

00:12:10.600 Everybody keeps talking about 2026, 2020.

00:12:12.260 No, no, no.

00:12:12.560 We need to focus on right now.

00:12:14.260 Right now.

00:12:16.780 She's so dumb. 1.00

00:12:18.700 She's clearly auditioning for a role on The View.

00:12:21.320 She desperately wants it because, I mean, that is about her IQ class.

00:12:25.560 But and she accurately predicts she won't be getting hired anywhere else.

00:12:28.980 But she what do you mean?

00:12:31.340 Our part.

00:12:32.080 Can we just reroll the beginning of that?

00:12:34.140 Like, does she think the Republicans held the No Kings rally?

00:12:37.200 Let's just listen to the beginning of that one more time.

00:12:40.800 There were seven million people that showed up at the No Kings rally.

00:12:43.540 It grew by millions from the first to the second to the third.

00:12:46.680 Where's the Democratic Party in doing the same and peaceful protesting?

00:12:50.840 Why is there not?

00:12:51.820 What is she saying?

00:12:52.920 OK, that's it.

00:12:53.880 We heard enough.

00:12:55.240 Does she not know that was Democrats?

00:12:58.660 That's like what and then she keeps saying that they're throwing now is she just stuck

00:13:04.940 to they're throwing the trans community under the bus. 0.82

00:13:08.160 Well, I wouldn't understand that either because they're actually clinging on to the trans community 1.00

00:13:11.820 like their lives depend on it.

00:13:13.100 But there are some Dems, at least like Bill Maher, saying we've got to move on from boys

00:13:17.840 and girls sports.

00:13:18.440 This is not a good issue for us.

00:13:19.720 And it's morally wrong and stopped with the transing of children. 0.99

00:13:22.240 Um, what her argument is that they've thrown black women in particular under the bus. 1.00

00:13:29.180 Now, if you're making the case that they take black women in their vote for granted, 0.66

00:13:35.140 I'll give her that.

00:13:36.480 That's true.

00:13:37.540 But how exactly have they thrown them under the bus?

00:13:40.500 Like her big things seems to be I'm leaving because they're throwing minorities and LGBTQ 1.00

00:13:46.880 and women under the bus and also because they're not having enough no Kings rallies like the 1.00

00:13:55.600 Republicans do.

00:13:58.080 I that was a really good attempt at a translation.

00:14:02.520 I don't know if that's actually what she was going for.

00:14:05.580 It was it was bizarre.

00:14:07.400 I think my favorite part of the clip had to be the four people who clapped for her point,

00:14:11.840 which there's like no one of the there's not a warm embrace as every other person who's

00:14:17.260 on the left come that comes under the view, you know, whenever they say anything, they

00:14:21.340 all clap for people clap and it's just awkward and silent.

00:14:25.980 Her point doesn't make any sense, obviously, you know, and when she's talking about you mentioned

00:14:33.300 her wanting to get a role in the view, what a perfect place for her intellect to settle. 0.92

00:14:37.380 It is the perfect intellectual environment for Corinne Jean-Pierre, who never says anything

00:14:43.380 of value.

00:14:44.080 There's nothing there of value.

00:14:45.840 Her point, you know, when she came out with the book title, The Independent Thing, there

00:14:50.060 is an inherent theoretical interest in that type of moment, right?

00:14:54.500 When we see we've even seen people on the right who didn't like it either for various

00:14:58.920 reasons, didn't like something that went on when they served in a previous administration.

00:15:02.120 I mean, one of the people on the view had this has that backstory, right?

00:15:05.580 The left loved it.

00:15:06.220 They ate it up.

00:15:07.040 Oh, my gosh.

00:15:07.520 She was in the Trump administration.

00:15:08.460 Now she's left the Trump administration. 1.00

00:15:10.460 She's come to some new realization about the world.

00:15:14.160 And that's, you know, at some point, you know, could theoretically be interesting to

00:15:18.260 someone.

00:15:18.480 If she was coming out and saying, gosh, we handled the Biden incoherence problem really

00:15:23.400 poorly and it was because of pressures here, there and everywhere, maybe somebody at least

00:15:27.580 on the right would be interested in what she's saying.

00:15:29.280 Her independence point seems to be part one.

00:15:33.980 They were too mean to Joe Biden.

00:15:36.140 Like the media was too critical of Joe Biden.

00:15:40.660 The party was too tough on him when they when they allowed this man to almost get this to

00:15:47.200 certainly get the nomination and almost be the candidate on the ballot for the presidency

00:15:52.460 when he was completely incoherent.

00:15:54.780 The last thing.

00:15:55.340 No, but her they did.

00:15:56.660 Right.

00:15:57.200 But of course, I know you're making your point there, but just to be clear to the for the

00:16:00.640 audience.

00:16:01.200 Yeah.

00:16:01.380 Her point is they were too mean to Joe Biden in notwithstanding how confident he was forcing

00:16:07.480 him off the ticket.

00:16:08.420 That's why she says she's leaving the Democrat Party, which makes no sense whatsoever, nor

00:16:16.000 to any of her other points.

00:16:17.460 She is also dishonestly defending the lack of mental acuity.

00:16:21.880 The soundbite we played on AM Update today had her actually scoffing at Tim Miller on his

00:16:28.680 leftist podcast.

00:16:30.760 Oh, we have it.

00:16:31.860 She's she's scoffing at the notion that Biden didn't speak to the press a lot and made no

00:16:39.220 sense when he did.

00:16:40.720 Look at this.

00:16:41.520 Stop five.

00:16:43.000 We did have legislative wins.

00:16:44.920 Sure.

00:16:45.220 And he didn't talk about him that well, though.

00:16:47.240 He couldn't talk about him.

00:16:48.160 He wasn't campaigning.

00:16:49.240 No, no, no.

00:16:49.580 Wait.

00:16:49.980 First of all, first of all, he did talk about them, whether it broke through or not.

00:16:54.920 He did.

00:16:56.040 Tim, he did talk about.

00:16:57.420 I mean, he talked way less to the press than Donald Trump does.

00:17:01.120 Way less.

00:17:01.620 And he wasn't out there at all.

00:17:03.260 He wasn't good off the cuff.

00:17:04.640 He wasn't doing press conferences.

00:17:06.140 Let's just be real.

00:17:07.080 Like, he didn't do the paid events.

00:17:08.960 Right on.

00:17:09.500 That's not true.

00:17:10.400 Tim, you're conflating all of it.

00:17:12.140 That's what you're doing.

00:17:12.660 You're a liar.

00:17:13.260 No, you're first you're telling me he didn't talk well about it.

00:17:15.640 Then you're telling me he didn't talk at all.

00:17:17.500 He didn't do either.

00:17:18.300 He didn't talk very often.

00:17:19.420 And when he did, it wasn't very good.

00:17:20.960 He sounded very good.

00:17:21.880 You weren't paying attention to what we were doing at the White House.

00:17:24.380 I paid attention.

00:17:25.300 I'm with you on the policies.

00:17:26.600 I'm talking about his performance.

00:17:28.280 The president spoke to the American people a couple times a week.

00:17:34.220 He traveled.

00:17:35.600 It's a lie.

00:17:35.880 And the domestic travel and talked directly to the American people.

00:17:40.280 He traveled.

00:17:41.200 Okay.

00:17:41.720 He traveled.

00:17:42.540 She's such a liar. 1.00

00:17:43.440 She's still, she actually wants us to accept her as, quote, an independent.

00:17:47.040 You know, like, she's left the party system. 0.63

00:17:48.860 Now she's going to be a hard truth teller, Stu.

00:17:50.900 She can't even admit that.

00:17:52.600 That she actually wants us to believe that he was out there speaking to the American public regularly, dealing with the press, dealing with the people directly.

00:18:01.520 And you can tell she's nervous and that she's lying because she won't shut up to let a friendly Tim Miller even make his points.

00:18:10.800 She just tries to talk over him and shame him with the, Tim, Tim, by the way, Kareem, jump here, back off of the camera.

00:18:18.600 All right.

00:18:19.320 If you're going to be in independent media, you're going to need to understand.

00:18:21.640 Do not be on top of the camera.

00:18:23.740 It's uncomfortable and awkward for everyone.

00:18:26.060 For the love of God.

00:18:27.920 So, in any event, her spinning, which she tried to do as, you know, every day as a White House spin master, continues.

00:18:36.480 She's the same paid liar she used to be, except without the money. 0.62

00:18:41.420 Yeah.

00:18:41.780 And she's just bad at it. 1.00

00:18:43.340 I mean, as you point out, yes, she's trying to over talk Tim Miller there. 0.69

00:18:47.900 But you could tell she's lying when she's talking, period.

00:18:51.440 This is all she does.

00:18:52.760 It's the only thing she knows how to do, and she's bad at it.

00:18:56.680 You know, you look at that whole situation.

00:18:59.260 Another one of her big independent moments, apparently, is she's upset at the way that Democrats were not pro-LGBTQQIA2 plus enough.

00:19:10.980 Like, I mean, there's a lot of ways you can look at the 2024 election.

00:19:15.040 You can come up with a lot of different criticisms.

00:19:17.020 A lot of pieces of analysis have been done on this.

00:19:20.040 It's really hard to come up to believe that the problem the Democrats had was that they didn't embrace transgendered people enough.

00:19:32.120 That's a bonkers thought.

00:19:34.840 Who would listen to her? 0.90

00:19:37.000 Who would listen to her? 0.90

00:19:38.400 The one on the left is going to be taking this absolute nitwits advice to heart.

00:19:43.720 They all know.

00:19:45.580 Kareem, I've got to tell you something.

00:19:47.440 I'm sorry.

00:19:48.060 No one on your side is going to say it to you.

00:19:49.840 I'm going to tell you the truth.

00:19:51.280 They all think you're an idiot.

00:19:54.000 That is why you were ignored repeatedly, every time.

00:19:58.500 That is why you feel so disempowered and like they are not prioritizing black women.

00:20:02.860 They actually do like black women within the Democratic Party. 0.98

00:20:05.860 You got to give them that.

00:20:07.260 Just not you.

00:20:08.580 Sorry.

00:20:09.420 Just not you.

00:20:10.340 You're too dumb.

00:20:11.900 Everyone knows the only reason you got that job is for the two things you keep mentioning about yourself.

00:20:16.980 I'm black and I'm queer.

00:20:18.640 That's it.

00:20:19.360 That's all you have to offer.

00:20:21.000 And now literally no one wants to take your advice or your thoughts on anything.

00:20:26.540 They gave you the courtesy of these interviews to promote your book because you're on Team Blue.

00:20:31.280 But no one can believe how inane all of your comments are.

00:20:35.200 You've either pissed off the Democratic Party or you've confused them.

00:20:39.560 You've definitely confused us.

00:20:41.820 Here is Kareem Jean-Pierre actually having the nerve to take a shot at Caroline Levitt,

00:20:47.620 who I think it's fair to say is the goat of press secretaries.

00:20:52.100 The nerve.

00:20:53.180 Watch here.

00:20:53.480 Because they don't seem to understand, this is the Trump White House, that they don't work for just one man.

00:21:02.480 Yeah.

00:21:02.740 They work for the American people.

00:21:04.920 It is about coming together, about a common good.

00:21:08.160 Yeah.

00:21:08.800 The White House press secretary is not about doing online trolling.

00:21:14.320 Right.

00:21:14.580 It is not.

00:21:15.320 It is an honor and a privilege to have that job and to speak on behalf of the most powerful person in the world.

00:21:24.320 And there is a level of respect for the freedom of the press.

00:21:28.300 Right.

00:21:28.780 Even if you disagree with them.

00:21:31.560 Yeah.

00:21:32.020 And that is what that whole back and forth, when you see in the press briefing room, is about.

00:21:38.320 It shows that we believe in democracy.

00:21:41.140 Yeah.

00:21:41.300 It shows the world, not just here, but the world, that the press is going to do what they need to do to hold us accountable.

00:21:49.040 And we're going to do what we need to do to communicate to the American people about what we're doing.

00:21:54.460 You had James Rosen ejected from the White House briefing room for eight months for asking one question about Joe Biden's mental acuity,

00:22:04.720 which was the political story of the decade.

00:22:07.860 And one reporter asked one question about it.

00:22:10.640 He was ejected for the better part of a year from ever asking another question again.

00:22:15.380 You coordinated with reporters by actually submitting questions in advance quite clearly to the White House.

00:22:21.600 We saw them written out and then funneled them to an enfeebled Joe Biden who then worked cosplaying with a reporter as though something real was happening.

00:22:31.600 You reportedly had meltdowns, Kareem, according to White House staffers speaking out to Politico and others about you.

00:22:37.540 When when when questions were asked that you hadn't been given in advance in any in advance in any interview.

00:22:44.400 That's how inept this person is.

00:22:46.860 And then stood the nerve to try to lecture Caroline Levitt on staying truthful from the White House podium.

00:22:56.940 Let me just take you for a little walk down memory lane.

00:23:01.000 And here's June 17th, 2024.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, we and I think you all have called this the cheap fakes video.

00:23:10.120 And that's exactly what they are.

00:23:11.780 They are cheap fakes video.

00:23:13.080 They are done in bad faith.

00:23:15.360 And and some of your news organization have have been very clear, have stressed that these right wing, the white wing critics of the president have a credibility problem because of the fact checkers have repeatedly caught them pushing misinformation, disinformation.

00:23:31.820 And so we see this and this is something coming from from your your part of the world, calling them cheap fakes and misinformation instead of talking about the president's performance in office.

00:23:43.900 And what I mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been able to do for the American people across the country.

00:23:49.320 We're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos, and it is, again, done in bad faith.

00:23:58.300 My head hurts.

00:24:00.020 Go ahead, Stu.

00:24:00.560 They all now will admit outside of current jump here, at least that those were lies that all of this stuff was happening.

00:24:10.960 We were right the entire time we were saying it and we were supposed to be the bad ones.

00:24:16.980 We were the evil conspiracy theorists.

00:24:18.540 We were the people who were going against the truth.

00:24:21.560 Now, she's most of the time there. 0.91

00:24:23.520 She was reading that response.

00:24:25.600 Honestly, for most of her time in office, there was no real reason to have a press secretary when we could have just we could have had Siri do it and just read the text to us every single day. 0.96

00:24:36.200 But like it really it's funny to look at this.

00:24:38.700 I know I'm not a big believer in conspiracy theories, Megan, but I will I will let you in.

00:24:43.600 And I do believe one conspiracy theory, which is I believe Corinne Jean-Pierre has that job specifically because she was hand chosen by Jen Psaki to make Jen Psaki look good.

00:24:56.520 I think she because you think about Jen Psaki right now, you think, you know, in comparison, she was actually pretty good.

00:25:05.460 That's how every time I bring this up, that's what people say.

00:25:07.700 Like, oh, yeah, she was all right.

00:25:08.860 No, she wasn't.

00:25:09.640 She wasn't good either.

00:25:10.620 But in comparison to Corinne Jean-Pierre, she was such a mastermind that I think she put this person in for not only, of course, the fact.

00:25:20.600 And I don't know if you're aware of this, Megan, that she's a black woman who's LGBTQ. 0.78

00:25:25.220 That's part of it.

00:25:26.320 But also, I think this was a long term plot by Jen Psaki to make Jen Psaki look good.

00:25:31.700 That's exactly it's exactly how, like, the first wife hopes the husband's second wife turns out to be a total shrew. 0.99

00:25:37.920 You know, like every woman wants that when she gets a divorce. 1.00

00:25:41.520 Like, I not me.

00:25:42.900 I'm friends with my ex-husband.

00:25:44.020 But yeah, that makes perfect sense.

00:25:46.900 She had to search the world around to find somebody dumber and more dishonest than she was. 0.99

00:25:53.080 And she stumbled onto this girl.

00:25:54.780 She was like, cha-ching, pay dirt. 1.00

00:25:57.380 There was more denials about Biden's mental acuity.

00:26:03.700 I can't.

00:26:04.180 I don't have any more appetite for it.

00:26:05.840 But then she decided on The View to rip on Trump's adding a ballroom to the White House. 0.99

00:26:13.900 Now, can I say something?

00:26:15.540 I'm kind of shocked there isn't a ballroom already in the White House.

00:26:18.380 I don't know the White House that well.

00:26:20.040 But aren't you kind of shocked there's not already a ballroom?

00:26:22.940 Like, there should be a ballroom.

00:26:24.660 Like, he's hosting dignitaries.

00:26:26.800 They can have dancing.

00:26:28.300 They can have something.

00:26:29.400 I don't know.

00:26:30.000 Like, if you have a ballroom, then you can have a very large gathering in the winter months inside

00:26:35.640 and have tons of press and open it up to more of the people.

00:26:39.560 You know, I'm thinking about just when we went for Charlie's Presidential Medal of Freedom,

00:26:42.840 which was a week ago today.

00:26:44.580 Yesterday, we had it in the Rose Garden, and we barely fit in the Rose Garden.

00:26:48.940 That was outside.

00:26:50.300 Inside the White House, it'd be great to have a very large room so you could have more people.

00:26:53.980 That's a plus.

00:26:54.760 That's something every president can use.

00:26:57.040 And that actually will, I think, be a boon to the people.

00:26:59.760 But Corrine Jean-Pierre is unhappy about it.

00:27:02.340 It's not costing the taxpayers one dime.

00:27:05.300 He got a bunch of private funding for it, which I think most taxpayers would say,

00:27:09.020 cool, in response to.

00:27:10.600 She thinks it's corrupt.

00:27:12.160 Here she is on that.

00:27:14.580 I feel like he's been president for 20 years.

00:27:17.720 No, no.

00:27:18.220 It's exhausting.

00:27:19.000 That's the point.

00:27:20.100 Come on.

00:27:20.760 That's the point.

00:27:24.020 You're completely different.

00:27:26.480 So what are your thoughts on the demolition?

00:27:29.620 So the people's house is basically being sold to the highest bidder.

00:27:38.160 Yeah.

00:27:38.580 It is corruption at its core.

00:27:40.520 And I heard someone say this when I was backstage.

00:27:44.200 It could not be.

00:27:46.020 There's no greater metaphor right now than what's happening right now in this country

00:27:51.780 than watching Donald Trump take a wrecking ball to the White House.

00:27:56.660 Yeah.

00:27:56.860 It's kind of obvious.

00:27:57.500 OK, she's very upset about the White House.

00:28:01.880 Let me just tell you something, OK?

00:28:04.960 I read this on X earlier today.

00:28:07.980 Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing.

00:28:11.060 Taft made the executive office oval.

00:28:13.640 FDR added the entire East Wing and included an indoor pool for himself.

00:28:18.000 Truman gutted the entire White House.

00:28:19.740 Nixon added a bowling alley.

00:28:21.160 Obama added a basketball court.

00:28:22.500 And Trump is adding a ballroom.

00:28:24.580 Why is this?

00:28:25.860 Why are we having such a meltdown?

00:28:27.400 What is it?

00:28:27.900 I mean, like, where was the meltdown over the basketball court?

00:28:30.640 Why did we do we have a meltdown when Truman gutted the White House?

00:28:33.920 Like the whole thing?

00:28:35.140 Each president adds something.

00:28:37.980 No one's destroying the East Wing for it never to be rebuilt.

00:28:41.880 He's in construction.

00:28:43.780 He saw a need.

00:28:45.140 He found a way to fund it.

00:28:46.740 And now every president who ever lives there will have an additional space in which to hold events, Stu.

00:28:54.280 Yeah, you know, it's funny because the point of like, oh, I can't think of a better, you know, personification of what's going on than taking a wrecking ball to the White House.

00:29:04.100 First of all, I don't know who she heard it from backstage.

00:29:06.760 It's funny that she's now admitting that she doesn't even have her own thoughts.

00:29:10.440 It was on Scarborough this morning.

00:29:12.420 She heard it on Morning Joe and she refused to give attribution.

00:29:15.820 Yeah, every left wing person has tweeted something like this.

00:29:19.680 I've seen that picture on Twitter a hundred times already.

00:29:23.480 And like, but that's that's not where he's stopping.

00:29:26.360 Right.

00:29:26.720 In some ways, it actually kind of is a good microcosm of what Trump is doing right now.

00:29:31.740 He's actually making this bigger and better.

00:29:33.820 He's trying to grow it and making it bigger and better.

00:29:36.760 And you're right.

00:29:38.240 There's a massive use for a ballroom.

00:29:41.780 You know, you you're I was talking to Glenn Beck earlier today.

00:29:44.980 I'm in his studios here.

00:29:46.280 I know you're appearing with him in Fort Worth here in the coming days.

00:29:49.600 Yeah, this Saturday.

00:29:50.600 And you should get him.

00:29:51.140 Go buy your tickets at MeganKelley.com.

00:29:53.920 I already have mine, Megan.

00:29:55.060 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:29:56.100 I already have mine.

00:29:56.680 But you should get him to tell the story because he was with Trump in the White House and they're walking around.

00:30:01.780 He's showing him and he took Glenn on a tour of the White House and point map this entire thing out to him, the entire ballroom, where it was going, how he was going to use it.

00:30:10.240 It's fascinating.

00:30:11.460 And, you know, Donald Trump looks at this not because he likes things that are big and gold.

00:30:16.280 I'm sure he does like that, obviously, at some level.

00:30:19.020 But what he really likes about this type of stuff is he likes to project power.

00:30:24.180 Look at the way he's handling the people in the Middle East.

00:30:27.040 He's he's able to speak their language in a way that previous presidents have not.

00:30:32.660 And he's getting results with that.

00:30:34.760 When these people come to the White House, he wants to be able to project American power.

00:30:38.720 He knows how they see these things.

00:30:40.540 And he's trying to apply it here.

00:30:42.000 I think that is not just some, you know, Trumpian justification.

00:30:45.800 It is legitimately what he's trying to do.

00:30:49.040 And I think like, you know, look, basketball courts and bowling alleys.

00:30:52.000 Yeah, every president makes changes to the White House.

00:30:55.060 These are massive changes like you're going to notice it when you when you look at the back of the White House.

00:30:59.460 It is like a whole new White House is being built next to the old White House.

00:31:03.080 It is a major, major change, but it will be very useful for presidents in the future.

00:31:07.260 And we'll do something.

00:31:08.320 We'll communicate something to the rest of the world.

00:31:10.140 We're not in decline.

00:31:11.180 We're not in managed decline.

00:31:13.120 This is the golden age.

00:31:14.380 This is what he wants people to believe about America, not just Americans.

00:31:18.480 But the people that come over here that he has to have, you know, deal in diplomacy and negotiations with, it's all part of I do believe an actual strategy here.

00:31:27.800 But I think, honestly, like future presidents are going to find it quite useful as well.

00:31:31.360 Yes.

00:31:31.760 I guarantee you if we get a Democrat elected next time around, God forbid, that person is not going to undo it.

00:31:37.440 Even if they could get the private funding to undo it, they're not going to say, let's get rid of that terrible ballroom.

00:31:41.660 They're all going to love having it.

00:31:43.980 There's going to be concerts at the White House or be like balls at the White House.

00:31:47.780 It'll be fun.

00:31:48.700 It'll be something festive.

00:31:50.120 And sure enough, it'll be someplace to entertain foreign dignitaries who literally are lining up for photo ops with our current resident of the White House.

00:31:58.520 When Trump went over to the Middle East, they were waiting in like a red rope line to have their picture taken with a fellow leader, Donald Trump.

00:32:06.160 So, yes, he does want something grand at the White House to help show off American power and also just to entertain it.

00:32:13.400 I mean, this is his business.

00:32:14.880 You would not know that's all this was if you were just to watch, let's say, The View or Morning Joe.

00:32:19.840 Just take a look at Sot 33B, which happened before her comments there.

00:32:26.620 OK, OK.

00:32:30.080 That is not your building.

00:32:33.000 You don't own that building.

00:32:37.360 That would be like me going over to Trump Tower and and saying I'm going to build a disco.

00:32:47.000 You know, you know, they've wanted to just go in Trump Tower for hundreds of years.

00:32:53.260 So, I mean, come on.

00:32:55.080 This is fake laughter.

00:32:56.260 You don't own that building.

00:32:57.820 That is the people's building.

00:32:59.300 You don't own it.

00:33:01.240 Let's say it.

00:33:02.380 Let's say it.

00:33:03.280 You don't own it.

00:33:05.900 You cannot take it down.

00:33:08.920 You don't own it.

00:33:11.240 Take you behind to another town.

00:33:15.060 Very good.

00:33:15.620 Oh, my God.

00:33:19.420 How is that show still on the air?

00:33:21.540 Like, it's so fake.

00:33:23.960 The people doing fake laughs at that non-funny business, like actually pretending Whoopi is still a comedian who can make us laugh.

00:33:32.480 The bad singing.

00:33:33.700 It's not clever.

00:33:34.800 There's nothing clever about it.

00:33:36.380 Maybe KJP will get a job there.

00:33:38.800 It's just so dumb.

00:33:40.540 It's the dumbest programming on television.

00:33:43.320 And the freak out, right?

00:33:44.500 Like, you don't own it, right?

00:33:45.680 Okay.

00:33:46.320 Did Barack Obama own it when he added a basketball court?

00:33:48.660 Like, did whatever.

00:33:50.600 It didn't always have the bowling alley.

00:33:52.020 Like, these are additions that presidents wanted for their own enjoyment and for the enjoyment of, you know, future presidents.

00:33:57.800 Did you freak out then?

00:33:59.720 Like, okay.

00:34:00.660 So the facade of the White House is changing on one part of the building in the back, not the front, iconic front.

00:34:07.680 To add something that we can all use at zero cost to all of us, that he can just do no right.

00:34:15.700 That's the bottom line, Stu.

00:34:16.780 No matter what he does, it's wrong.

00:34:20.140 Totally true.

00:34:21.020 You're right.

00:34:21.560 And, you know, you kind of think about those other situations you're talking about.

00:34:24.820 The president has a real wide leeway to kind of do whatever he wants in the White House.

00:34:29.980 This is, you know, I would have thought there would be this big process and we'd have this vote or whatever.

00:34:34.920 That's not really what happens.

00:34:35.980 When the president's there, they get to alter it as they would like to, especially if they're not making American taxpayers pay for it.

00:34:42.680 But one of the differences between all of those things you described and what Donald Trump is doing is those other things were for the president, right?

00:34:52.440 Like, those other things were for, you know, you would play basketball.

00:34:56.060 I don't get to go play basketball on the basketball court.

00:34:58.200 I don't get to go bowling inside the White House.

00:35:00.600 Those are things that the president wanted.

00:35:02.080 And, you know, I don't necessarily begrudge them for having those things.

00:35:06.260 It's good that he has a place to get some exercise or whatever.

00:35:08.960 But, like, this is being done quite clearly for the country, quite clearly for the president to be able to have some operational availability to be able to have these large balls in a place that is right there and convenient to the president of the United States.

00:35:25.240 Who, by the way, whenever he has to go anywhere, it's a complete nightmare when it comes to security and everything else associated with it.

00:35:30.280 So, like, this is something that future presidents will be able to use, and it will hopefully be used to positive effect for the actual country.

00:35:38.340 I know Barack Obama's jump shot is important to the rest of the nation.

00:35:42.480 I'm sure the Roosevelt bowling average went up after he was in the White House.

00:35:48.140 Those things aren't really particularly important to me.

00:35:50.180 The fact that, like, you know, Donald Trump could be holding an event that might raise money for charity, that might have, you know, an effect toward an ongoing negotiation with a world leader.

00:36:03.240 Like, those things actually might benefit the country.

00:36:06.440 Maybe he wants to have some fun.

00:36:09.200 Maybe.

00:36:10.280 It's a big room for fun.

00:36:12.520 Everybody entertains in their own way.

00:36:14.380 But there is no place right now in the White House to have, like, a huge gathering.

00:36:18.940 There are certain rooms, I've been in many of them, but not all of them, on the first floor.

00:36:23.320 You always see them at the White House Christmas party.

00:36:26.320 And there has been dancing at the White House because I definitely saw, I remember the video of John Travolta and Lady Di, Princess Diana, back in the day, which I think was at the White House.

00:36:36.620 My point is simply that dancing at the White House is fun.

00:36:39.820 Why don't we have an appropriate space for it?

00:36:41.560 Why is this a bad piece of news?

00:36:43.340 This actually could be a lovely addition.

00:36:45.700 It's not like he's building a water park.

00:36:47.820 He's building something that makes sense for the space.

00:36:52.360 But I mentioned Scarborough, who is going off about it.

00:36:55.040 He ripped on it this morning saying, yeah, OK, he's destroying the White House.

00:36:59.820 And that's not all we heard from Joe Scarborough this morning.

00:37:03.960 He's very upset about the lawfare that President Trump's DOJ is unleashing on people like Comey and Tish James.

00:37:13.960 Take a listen to his very cautious, very prudent warning for us all here, Stu.

00:37:19.640 What I've been warning about, what I've been warning Republicans about, you know, because they love to say, oh, we're owning the libs.

00:37:26.860 No, you're taking a hammer to the 2027 and 2029 version of yourself, a ball-peen hammer, and you're hammering yourself in the forehead.

00:37:38.840 Like, the things they are doing now will be used against them by a progressive president or an independent megalomaniac who is a billionaire who becomes president of the United States.

00:37:53.200 They are setting precedents for an all-powerful president, which they're fine right now because it's their guy doing it.

00:38:01.680 But as you write in Axios, they're setting precedents that ripped to shreds the constitutional norms that they've gone around yelling about for 50 years.

00:38:16.200 You pick whatever they were once champions of that they've abandoned.

00:38:19.980 They're hurting themselves.

00:38:21.020 This will come back to haunt them.

00:38:24.460 Ah, this is very helpful to know, Stu.

00:38:28.860 God forbid this could happen to a Republican at the hands of an enraged Democrat-controlled DOJ.

00:38:37.340 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:38.640 I hadn't even thought of this possibility before.

00:38:41.440 You know, I mean, I hope you're—I'm glad to see you're not brushing off his important advice.

00:38:47.080 I think if this gets out of control, Megan, we could see a situation where they try to throw a presidential candidate in prison, that they tried to bankrupt him with legal actions.

00:39:00.300 I think they might even try to get him removed off of ballots across the country while he's running.

00:39:08.340 Thank God we have Joe Scarborough to warn us of such things.

00:39:12.160 Oh, we got to call Lindsey Halligan and Pam Bondi immediately to tell them to stop the madness.

00:39:18.440 This could happen to, like, even the president himself, even Donald Trump.

00:39:23.660 Donald Trump could be indicted on leaving office?

00:39:26.780 Just think of it, Stu.

00:39:27.820 They might even try to raid his house in this scenario, and I know it's outlandish.

00:39:33.360 It sounds crazy to you right now, but think of the precedent that they're setting.

00:39:38.900 It could lead to something just like this.

00:39:41.320 This is so crazy.

00:39:43.180 It's crazy that they're having these conversations like an alternate universe because what—you know, they don't like lawfare suddenly.

00:39:51.320 They're very against lawfare, but there is one thing that we definitely know about the Democratic Party and its representatives, and in particular about Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:40:01.500 Here's what it is.

00:40:05.040 And for me, as a Black woman, as a person who's also LGBTQ, I feel as if those communities that I am part of largely get taken for granted.

00:40:18.720 As a Black woman who has walked through the walls of the White House and been part of this party for a very long time, I believe, and this is my personal opinion, that we get forgotten and that by a large part the Democratic Party does not see us.

00:40:35.520 The op-ed that I put out was about my time as White House press secretary in the two and a half years that I served.

00:40:43.000 And who are you again?

00:40:43.620 The reason that I waited till the end is because I did not feel empowered or safe to talk about what was going on in my life while I was the White House press secretary.

00:40:53.520 And the reason why is I do feel that when you are a first in the role, whatever role, you are not given grace.

00:41:04.560 I am obviously acutely aware that my presence at this podium represents a few firsts.

00:41:12.220 I am a Black gay immigrant woman.

00:41:14.760 Oh, there we go.

00:41:15.380 Immigrant, too.

00:41:15.980 The first of all three of those to hold this position.

00:41:19.220 Great.

00:41:19.900 Okay.

00:41:20.220 Wonderful.

00:41:20.880 They're much more comfortable over that space.

00:41:24.160 Stu, I forgot.

00:41:25.480 Immigrant.

00:41:26.160 I'm not sure how that applies, but okay, let's throw it all in there.

00:41:29.040 I love that.

00:41:31.540 My favorite part of that particular moment, Megan, is the fact that she's describing herself as a Black gay immigrant woman.

00:41:39.480 And even then, she's reading it.

00:41:41.980 She's actually reading her own skin color from her notes.

00:41:47.140 Checks notes.

00:41:47.540 I swear.

00:41:48.800 White. 0.81

00:41:48.920 If you're listening on Sirius, I swear that's exactly visually what happened.

00:41:53.980 It's incredible.

00:41:54.860 It really is funny.

00:41:58.020 The race and even the sexuality. 0.61

00:42:00.600 Like, straight.

00:42:02.460 Straight.

00:42:03.060 Yes.

00:42:03.420 It's right here.

00:42:04.600 I got it.

00:42:05.320 White. 0.81

00:42:05.780 Straight.

00:42:06.360 In case you forgot which genitals you're attracted to. 0.90

00:42:09.240 Now she can always read it off a piece of paper and remind herself as if that's an important detail.

00:42:14.840 I hope she at least wrote it, but yeah, who knows?

00:42:18.320 I find it fascinating, though, because it really is a microcosm of how the left thinks about you, right?

00:42:25.760 Like, I look at Corinne Jean-Pierre not as a member of the Black community or the LGBTQ community or the immigrant community.

00:42:35.140 Certainly not as a member of the Mensa community.

00:42:37.600 Or the Mensa community.

00:42:38.600 I think of her as a unique individual idiot. 0.99

00:42:42.560 She's not part.

00:42:45.140 It doesn't mean any of the groups she's associated with are idiots.

00:42:48.740 It's that she, in her own individual way, is a moron.

00:42:52.820 And that is what America's about.

00:42:54.680 We're supposed to see each other as individuals and judge them as individuals.

00:42:58.940 It's true.

00:42:59.500 Like, she would look at you as her opposite.

00:43:01.900 She would say, this is my opposite as a straight, white, cisgendered, American-born male.

00:43:09.480 And focus on the gulf that that must create between the two of you, how you could never understand her.

00:43:15.680 And clearly, she could never understand you.

00:43:17.220 Whereas, really, the only thing driving the two of you apart are IQ points and politics.

00:43:22.880 And she just wants to, like, it's her one way of feeling more powerful, right?

00:43:27.400 It's like, if you would just study harder and get smarter and do better, you wouldn't have to rely on those things that you keep mentioning.

00:43:34.260 You could just go out into this world and never, ever mention those things and be accepted and make it on your own and never have to wonder whether these are the things that are getting you ahead in life.

00:43:43.960 But because you continually rely on them as a crutch, you need them.

00:43:48.860 You can't operate without them.

00:43:50.380 And then you continue to humiliate yourself.

00:43:52.600 That's really what she's doing.

00:43:53.520 Yeah, it's sort of like the Wonder Woman invisible jet.

00:43:57.380 Like, she thinks she gets in the jet and turns invisible and she becomes invisible.

00:44:02.300 But in reality, you can still see her kind of floating through the sky.

00:44:06.220 And that's what it is.

00:44:07.100 Like, she uses that as a cloak, right?

00:44:08.860 Whenever she doesn't have anything to say, whenever she can't argue herself out of everything, she starts going into which letters she's associated in the alphabet with.

00:44:16.400 When in reality, everybody can see through that.

00:44:18.960 And she's particularly bad at hiding it. 0.98

00:44:20.980 She doesn't have a lot of thoughts that add up to anything.

00:44:25.380 And so she kind of always has to fall back on the same things.

00:44:28.960 And if you can kind of see people as not members of groups, and that's collectivism, right?

00:44:33.300 It's how—it's the same—it's different, but it's the same core as, let's say, racism or, you know, sexism.

00:44:40.700 When you see people as members of groups, you wind up with these broad generalizations and you don't treat people the way that you should.

00:44:49.580 You know, it's not a—I mean, the idea that the Democratic Party didn't think enough about these groups is just completely insane.

00:44:57.280 It's the exact opposite of reality.

00:45:00.220 It's the only group they care about.

00:45:01.880 Yeah, it's the only thing they ever talk about.

00:45:03.560 They're always wanting to have another conversation about gender or sexuality or skin color.

00:45:10.560 It's all they ever want to discuss because they're the rest of other ideas.

00:45:14.900 How do we get Kamala Harris? 0.99

00:45:16.820 How do we get Kareem Jean-Pierre?

00:45:18.600 We all know because Joe Biden told us explicitly why those people were chosen and what for.

00:45:23.500 No, her, like, pretending that her little invisibility cloak somehow shields us from seeing how stupid she is or from being able to see, like, the real Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:45:37.120 All I can think of is the line from the movie,

00:45:39.600 I'll find you.

00:45:41.520 Does anyone know where that movie's from?

00:45:43.080 Anyone?

00:45:43.440 Can you name that, Stu?

00:45:44.760 Oh, yeah, Steve Krakauer's got it.

00:45:47.160 What is it?

00:45:47.980 But I'd find you.

00:45:49.820 It's from Ilsa Fisher, Wedding Crashers.

00:45:54.380 Oh, gosh, yeah, gosh, classic, classic.

00:45:55.860 Yeah, Sasha Baron Cohen's wife and also an independent actress in her own right.

00:45:58.920 And by the way, the answer to yesterday's trivia, where my lines were from, was overboard the classic with Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell.

00:46:08.880 They couldn't be more adorable.

00:46:10.740 I have lines every day.

00:46:12.140 I'm a short, fat slut. 0.94

00:46:14.120 That was yesterday's.

00:46:15.240 And also, I can't do any of these vile things and I wouldn't want to.

00:46:18.960 That's Goldie. 1.00

00:46:19.980 So, anyway, there you go.

00:46:20.880 I gave it away from today.

00:46:22.000 Wedding Crashers was our trivia.

00:46:24.120 Steve Krakauer, speaking of whom, since he got the Wedding Crashers trivia correct, I'm going to play his favorite soundbite.

00:46:30.160 He insists we not move on from the mental acuity.

00:46:32.880 He insists that we play KJP on Stephen Colbert and he is the executive producer of this program.

00:46:38.520 So, I will do him this solid four.

00:46:40.420 I saw a guy who I had not seen backstage at the benefit that I did.

00:46:46.380 It seemed like a dramatically different person.

00:46:48.820 And at 81 years old, that's not entirely unexpected.

00:46:52.580 You can imagine why people got so worried.

00:46:55.020 No one is saying that he didn't age.

00:46:57.320 I'm talking about, was he, did he have the questions that I was getting, the mental acuity?

00:47:02.440 Was he able to govern?

00:47:04.640 And the man that I saw nearly every day was someone who was engaging, understood policy, and was always putting the American people first.

00:47:14.680 I don't think anybody questioned his heart or his policies.

00:47:17.000 But it takes more than that to be the president of the United States.

00:47:20.120 And in a moment of great pressure on stage, we saw someone shock us and worry us.

00:47:27.860 And nothing could assuage that worry.

00:47:30.480 So, I don't think it was necessarily a betrayal of Joe Biden as other people saying,

00:47:35.960 we don't think we were shown Joe Biden that you saw.

00:47:39.320 I saw every day a really ugly assault on someone who had 50-plus years of experience

00:47:47.720 and who, again, objectively had done a good job as president of the United States.

00:47:54.640 And it was heartbreaking to see that type of behavior.

00:47:58.840 What happened was the debate performance.

00:48:01.800 Everything is downstream of that.

00:48:04.440 And no one is saying that the debate performance wasn't shocking, wasn't a disappointment.

00:48:10.300 No one is saying that.

00:48:11.280 Disappointment is such a light term.

00:48:12.640 I use your words.

00:48:14.460 It was heroin.

00:48:14.960 I use your words.

00:48:16.080 Okay, look, listen, we're never going to agree on this.

00:48:18.480 We're not.

00:48:20.220 Oh, my God.

00:48:22.360 It's just lying liars who lie.

00:48:25.160 Lying.

00:48:25.960 That's what, they're both lying.

00:48:27.860 It was all about the debate, Stu.

00:48:29.780 No one knew when he saw him at a $25 million fundraiser in March,

00:48:33.880 which, last time I checked, is three months before June.

00:48:37.320 He had no idea.

00:48:39.000 There was no evidence of mental infirmity whatsoever.

00:48:43.420 And, of course, he's talking to the person who stood there at the White House press lectern saying,

00:48:48.100 cheap fakes, cheap fakes, cheap fakes, lies in which he participated.

00:48:52.360 But he's up there like, I had no idea how could you have let us down around the debate.

00:48:57.100 And she's sweeping large like, bad night, but just old.

00:49:00.860 These are all lies.

00:49:01.900 The Democrat Party is mean.

00:49:03.420 It's amazing, the amount of dishonesty.

00:49:06.180 Oh, my gosh.

00:49:07.100 And he's so, he had the lightest touch possible with her,

00:49:09.960 trying to convince her and tell her exactly what to say to make everything okay.

00:49:13.800 And she tries to blurt something out, which was the same line she was using back in the day.

00:49:17.780 And you hear the audience, there is legitimately exactly one person who claps for her answer.

00:49:23.320 I think Jill Biden was in the audience.

00:49:25.620 That's the only explanation to that moment.

00:49:28.500 But, gosh, just another terrible performance from someone who's made a career of it.

00:49:33.100 Is it any wonder, like, the Democrats are so misled?

00:49:37.880 Best Joe Biden ever.

00:49:40.360 And nothing, not a scintilla of mental acuity problems prior to the debate.

00:49:45.380 It was the debate.

00:49:46.320 No, there were none.

00:49:47.360 It's just a mean Democrat Party that got rid of a totally firm, albeit somewhat elderly. 0.51

00:49:52.980 These are all lies.

00:49:54.080 They're all lying to you nonstop.

00:49:56.960 And that's just on this one issue.

00:49:59.580 Imagine what else they're lying to you on.

00:50:02.120 All right, stand by, Stu, because there's a lot more to get to.

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00:51:42.840 Megan Kelly live in Texas with your favorite all-star guests, Donald Trump Jr.

00:51:48.060 There's a true seismic shift going on right now.

00:51:51.120 Watching the Democrats, it's amazing that they're so far out of touch.

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00:51:55.140 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:51:56.160 I'm going to be making a major announcement with her.

00:51:58.960 I'm making a major pivot point in my career.

00:52:01.500 Jesse Kelly.

00:52:02.160 They stand up and they tell people, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming.

00:52:06.460 And you have all these single women on anti-anxiety meds freaking out. 1.00

00:52:10.380 Oh my gosh, the world's going to end.

00:52:12.340 These people get lied to repeatedly and all they do, maybe it's a Democrat thing,

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00:52:37.560 The only time I ever see clips of Michelle Obama is when you force me to see them.

00:52:41.020 The way you're chewing makes me want to smack you upside the head.

00:52:45.000 I like watch that with my mouth agape.

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00:53:54.200 What happened last weekend is perfectly clear.

00:53:56.700 A disturbing new video was caught by conservative journalist Caitlin Bennett.

00:54:00.700 Caitlin is the host of the Liberty Hangout podcast, and she went to a No Kings protest

00:54:04.900 in Bradenton, Florida.

00:54:07.240 There she is, standing under a protest sign that shows President Trump's image with a

00:54:11.240 Hitler mustache on it. 0.83

00:54:13.600 An oldie but a goodie.

00:54:14.500 While there, Caitlin encountered an older woman who said she's glad Charlie Kirk is dead.

00:54:21.400 Whatever his name was.

00:54:24.640 Charlie Kirk, ma'am?

00:54:26.100 Yeah, him is horrible.

00:54:27.560 Horrible.

00:54:28.080 Charlie Kirk is horrible?

00:54:29.320 Yes, I'm glad he's not here.

00:54:31.300 You're glad he's dead?

00:54:32.820 Yes.

00:54:33.200 Why would you say something like that, ma'am?

00:54:35.840 Because he was horrible on the campuses, the college campuses.

00:54:39.700 Horrible person.

00:54:40.620 You know what?

00:54:40.960 I do the exact same thing.

00:54:42.600 Would you be glad if I would die?

00:54:44.660 Maybe.

00:54:45.780 I'd have to think about it.

00:54:47.340 What, if she would die?

00:54:48.480 I don't know.

00:54:49.280 Excuse me.

00:54:50.460 No, I don't know you, but I didn't know him either.

00:54:53.460 But he was not a good person.

00:54:55.100 He would go to college campuses.

00:54:57.340 And why do you think he got shot?

00:54:59.420 Because he wasn't a good person.

00:55:02.360 Oh.

00:55:03.860 I do the exact same thing that he does.

00:55:07.160 I believe, actually, I believe, and he is a moderate compared to me.

00:55:12.340 You would be happy if I got shot on a public college campus?

00:55:16.540 Okay, no, baby, no.

00:55:18.520 You have got to watch the things you say.

00:55:21.700 Because what you just did, that's disgusting.

00:55:25.420 Don't point my finger at her, ma'am. 0.99

00:55:27.960 You have got to watch the things you say.

00:55:31.420 That is awful, ma'am.

00:55:33.580 And I don't believe that you actually mean that.

00:55:36.840 I think your feelings are heightened right now.

00:55:39.680 I don't mean it, but he was a horrible person just now.

00:55:42.200 How was he a horrible person?

00:55:43.860 Because what he was doing to our students, what he was promoting, was horrible.

00:55:48.260 What was he promoting?

00:55:49.300 Right.

00:55:50.020 I'm done with you.

00:55:51.020 What was he promoting, ma'am?

00:55:53.020 You're done with her.

00:55:54.400 She's pointing her finger in your face. 1.00

00:55:56.080 Yes.

00:55:56.280 You're a horrible person yourself.

00:55:58.440 And point your finger in my face and coming to this peaceful, peaceful demonstration.

00:56:03.600 Where we want everyone dead.

00:56:04.860 And put it in my face.

00:56:05.660 Go down the road here.

00:56:06.800 I am utterly speechless right now.

00:56:10.800 This, let this be proof right now.

00:56:13.040 These people are not peaceful.

00:56:14.360 Just because they're not actually committing physical acts of violence right now, they would

00:56:18.660 celebrate if you died.

00:56:21.520 She's not wrong. 0.92

00:56:22.760 I think I would have been done with that woman when I heard the phrase, him is horrible.

00:56:26.840 Um, I think I need to find a new man on the street.

00:56:32.240 I just, if we can't even agree on basic English, it's a no.

00:56:38.100 So, um, Charlie was horrible and she's glad he's gone.

00:56:43.040 Then she looked this reporter in the eyes and said she'd be fine with her dying too.

00:56:46.460 Maybe.

00:56:46.860 She kind of waffled on it later.

00:56:49.040 Um, this woman knew nothing about Charlie Kirk.

00:56:51.620 That's obvious.

00:56:52.140 She just saw some out of context video of him on the internet or she read Nicole Hannah

00:56:55.600 Jones in the New York times.

00:56:56.720 And that was enough for her.

00:56:57.660 He needed to be eliminated.

00:56:59.140 She's fine with that.

00:57:00.300 And I, and the reporter's right.

00:57:01.720 That same woman and all those no Kings people out there, they'd be thrilled if any one of 1.00

00:57:05.720 us on the, on the right had what happened to Charlie happened to us.

00:57:09.860 I mean, it's a very disturbing fact.

00:57:11.460 I've just been coming to terms with over the past month.

00:57:14.520 I didn't know that.

00:57:15.720 I genuinely didn't know that.

00:57:17.520 Did not think the depravity was quite that deep.

00:57:19.700 Uh, this woman wasn't alone in her sentiments.

00:57:23.200 Here's a photo of a young man at a protest in Georgia.

00:57:25.640 He's wearing the same freedom t-shirt that Charlie was wearing when he was shot, but this

00:57:31.040 man put fake blood all over it.

00:57:33.900 If you look closely, he made a fake bullet hole in his neck too.

00:57:39.680 He's got fake blood all over his face and that metal he's wearing.

00:57:45.760 Yeah.

00:57:46.240 It reads, is it bozo metal of fascism?

00:57:53.060 We're also learning more about the video showing the woman yesterday that went completely viral

00:57:58.480 gesturing toward her neck as though she's shooting herself.

00:58:02.740 This went everywhere.

00:58:04.140 We had so much feedback on this video online.

00:58:06.180 This woman's a pig. 1.00

00:58:07.140 She's a vile pig. 1.00

00:58:08.300 And, uh, we showed it to you yesterday.

00:58:09.900 What happened was a truck that had a Charlie Kirk, like banner and flag went by these no

00:58:16.360 Kings protesters.

00:58:17.100 And her response was to celebrate Charlie's murder by repeatedly pretending to shoot herself 0.96

00:58:22.600 in the neck and recoil.

00:58:24.460 There was some online reporting that this woman was a teacher for Chicago public schools.

00:58:28.400 As we went to air yesterday, it hadn't been confirmed, but it is true.

00:58:32.340 We contacted the school's principal, but she never had the balls to get back to us.

00:58:35.860 Fox news is now reporting that the principal did send a letter to staff and parents admitting

00:58:41.440 that this woman is an employee in an elementary school.

00:58:45.940 And her name is Lucy Martinez.

00:58:48.680 She teaches K through eight STEM classes at Nathan Hale elementary school in Chicago.

00:58:56.340 And it appears she's still employed, though she wants to celebrate the murder of young

00:59:03.860 Republicans.

00:59:05.140 She thinks it's fine if young people who are on the right half of the aisle get murdered,

00:59:11.300 get shot down in their prime.

00:59:13.460 The Chicago public schools sending a statement to Fox news that reads district follows a consistent

00:59:18.440 process.

00:59:19.200 When allegations of misconduct are reported, employees found to have violated board policy

00:59:24.700 are subject to disciplinary action, but they did not tell us whether this woman is considered

00:59:30.740 a case for disciplinary action.

00:59:33.100 It seems they have zero concern for any student who might have conservative leanings in Lucy

00:59:38.500 Martinez's classroom.

00:59:40.940 Otherwise, their statement would be clear.

00:59:43.260 Lucy Martinez has had her fat ass fired. 1.00

00:59:47.380 That's what needs to happen to Lucy. 0.97

00:59:49.120 Lucy, her fat ass needs to be fired, period. 1.00

00:59:54.380 She's a pig. 1.00

00:59:56.240 And I look forward to her termination, which I do believe will eventually happen.

01:00:01.560 I want her to get fired from that job. 1.00

01:00:03.300 I don't want her to get hurt because I'm not a crazed leftist and right wingers are not

01:00:08.740 doing that.

01:00:09.480 It's the left wingers doing that.

01:00:11.440 Our side uses the power of our arguments, which we have honed into being extremely sharp

01:00:16.220 because we've all grown up having to argue with leftists, never mind zero through college,

01:00:21.980 well beyond.

01:00:23.240 As we talk to half of our country, as we watch the media, as we go to a sports game, as we

01:00:30.100 go to a movie, we constantly have our arguments challenged and shat upon as dumb and worthless.

01:00:35.800 And therefore, we've had a lifetime of debate.

01:00:38.880 That's why we're not killing people.

01:00:40.540 Lucy, you seem to be okay with that kind of violence, and I'd love to see you explain

01:00:47.160 why.

01:00:47.960 I'd love to see, I'd love to hear the clips you've seen of Charlie that you think justify

01:00:52.620 taking a father away from two young children, two babies, never mind his beautiful, loving

01:01:00.160 wife.

01:01:01.100 Fuck you, you disgusting cretin. 1.00

01:01:04.380 Of course, the protesters wish death on President Trump.

01:01:07.420 Here's a protester with a sign that reads, let's go, blood clot, alluding to hoping the

01:01:12.680 president's well-known fast food habit does him in.

01:01:15.120 And here's a protester with a sign, I wish he hadn't turned his head.

01:01:19.900 Along those same lines, this next protester showed up to a protest proudly wearing a shirt

01:01:24.160 that read 86-47.

01:01:27.800 86-47, explain it to me.

01:01:30.160 I like the colors.

01:01:31.300 Kill the son of the bitch. 0.99

01:01:33.200 Kill who?

01:01:33.700 His 47th president.

01:01:35.100 But that's the problem with your guys' side.

01:01:37.300 You guys get so emotional, you feel you need to threaten people.

01:01:41.440 But don't worry, we're spreading love, and we're going to fix it.

01:01:44.400 Fuck you guys.

01:01:45.480 We appreciate you.

01:01:46.520 God bless.

01:01:47.800 We're spreading love, and we're going to fix it.

01:01:50.240 Fuck you guys.

01:01:51.040 Back with me now is Dubergheer, host of Stu Does America on Blaze TV.

01:01:54.400 I have to tell you, it's like, it's depressing to go through these, but I do feel the need

01:01:59.840 to out these people, you know?

01:02:01.600 But it, unlike virtually anything else in the news, like, I usually get kind of mad, and

01:02:07.800 I express my anger on the show, which is therapeutic for me, and that I feel better, that what we

01:02:12.100 did yesterday and what we did today is, like, it isn't working.

01:02:15.220 It's left me genuinely disturbed, you know?

01:02:18.560 Like, it's, I don't want to say I'm rattled, but I'm, like, close to rattled by how widespread

01:02:24.840 the desire for our deaths is.

01:02:30.680 Yeah.

01:02:31.420 It was really shocking going through all the clips and watching this from yesterday, because

01:02:35.800 you showed that one woman who got in an argument, and she kind of backed off of it, and she's

01:02:40.260 like, no, I don't really mean, you know, she's going back and forth.

01:02:42.740 And you could tell there's just visceral anger in her in that moment, and I saw a lot of

01:02:48.880 that when watching the No Kings protests.

01:02:52.800 But I think what shook me more was I also saw a lot of clips of people calmly and soberly

01:03:02.440 describing how they would want the president, Charlie Kirk, some random person on the street

01:03:09.900 who happens to be conservative, dead, as if it was part of their sort of, like, intellectual

01:03:14.920 analysis of the situation.

01:03:16.480 They are doing really bad things at campuses, and, you know, they're a problem.

01:03:21.460 Yeah.

01:03:22.540 Yeah, exactly.

01:03:24.360 This idea, I mean, Jay Jones is a great example, because his, it wasn't like, I can't stand

01:03:29.800 that person.

01:03:30.320 I wish he'd die.

01:03:31.060 Like, that's something you might say flippantly, and it's bad.

01:03:34.160 It's hyperbole.

01:03:35.120 It's hyperbole.

01:03:37.080 When you're talking about a philosophy, he had a well-explained philosophy in his second

01:03:41.560 set of conversations with a Republican, where he said, well, you know, they don't change their

01:03:47.120 political opinions on policy unless they feel personal pain.

01:03:51.580 And that is increasingly common.

01:03:54.080 I'm with you, Megan.

01:03:55.120 And I don't think I really understood this until the Charlie thing.

01:04:00.420 I mean, I certainly knew there were people out there that were terrible people that were

01:04:03.580 wishing harm on others.

01:04:04.920 But, like, to see the celebration of that, to see a guy who's out there doing, even as

01:04:10.600 people, like, on the left, like, as Recline admitted, you know, doing it the right way, doing

01:04:14.900 politics the right way, out there talking to people and trying to convince them and persuade

01:04:18.120 them of his viewpoint.

01:04:19.080 And to see him get gunned down, a young man with a wonderful family, have him get murdered

01:04:26.080 in front of thousands of people, and for the reaction to that to be not, you know, a joke

01:04:33.620 you might make about Abraham Lincoln, but, like, something in the moments after, joking,

01:04:39.580 celebrating, dressing up as...

01:04:43.120 Dressing up.

01:04:43.660 Putting a bullet hole.

01:04:46.020 Imagine going through the process of putting a bullet hole in your neck.

01:04:49.820 What kind of person would do that?

01:04:51.960 I know of no, no conservatives.

01:04:55.900 I know of none.

01:04:56.980 I don't think I've ever met a person in my entire life who would do something like that.

01:05:01.900 Now, I probably have after watching all those clips.

01:05:04.300 Maybe they're out there doing this on their weekend time at parades and gatherings.

01:05:08.000 But, like, I've never met a person in my entire life who would ever think of doing anything

01:05:13.840 like that.

01:05:14.660 That is beyond a terrible person.

01:05:18.060 That is a...

01:05:18.640 That's a mental problem.

01:05:20.380 You have a mental problem if you're doing something like that.

01:05:23.380 And, wow, apparently there's a lot of those people out there.

01:05:27.320 I hope it's not as widespread because I feel like when I have conversations with people on

01:05:31.220 the left, they're not like that.

01:05:32.180 I don't think that they're doing that.

01:05:35.000 It's the average person who's a Democrat.

01:05:37.120 But it was really widespread.

01:05:39.960 And I'm not seeing people call them out on their side about it.

01:05:43.360 It seems to be really widespread and common that, look, we, you know, you played one of

01:05:50.080 the clips, I think, there that was, it was the one where they said, you know, look, well,

01:05:53.520 Hitler, I'm glad Hitler was gone. 0.96

01:05:55.500 You know, Hitler died and I'm glad he's not around, right? 1.00

01:05:58.280 Like, when you equate, when you make those arguments and you equate those people to Hitler,

01:06:03.600 well, yeah, I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense in their weird world of looking at things.

01:06:07.520 The better way to look at this is to see people as actual people, fathers, they're not Hitler.

01:06:13.460 This isn't real.

01:06:14.500 All this stuff you've been fed is false.

01:06:16.620 And if you can't identify that, you're going to have a real problem getting through life

01:06:21.440 on a day-to-day basis and dealing with reality.

01:06:23.620 These people have lost contact with all reality.

01:06:27.100 And it's really disturbing as you walk around.

01:06:29.700 You wonder how many of these people you're walking by on a day-to-day basis.

01:06:33.460 I know.

01:06:34.100 Yeah, you do.

01:06:35.000 And like, I don't know, are they teaching our kids?

01:06:39.440 Are they operating on us?

01:06:41.960 You know, are they like, I just, I don't think you have to be fired from any job anywhere

01:06:47.800 if you're a hateful person.

01:06:49.100 But I do think if you're in a position of trust, like you have people's children all day,

01:06:53.840 some of whom may be Republican, you're done.

01:06:57.940 You need to be fired.

01:06:59.660 You've become a distraction inside the classroom thanks to your outside-the-classroom behavior.

01:07:05.320 I would never, never, Stu, let my children go sit in the classroom of somebody who had 0.99

01:07:10.760 behaved like Lucy Martinez.

01:07:13.240 Never.

01:07:14.480 I would make it my personal mission in life if my kid went to Nathan Hale to get this woman 1.00

01:07:20.040 fired.

01:07:20.380 I mean, I would stand out there with my, with my own placard saying Lucy Martinez called

01:07:25.000 mock Charlie Clark's murder.

01:07:27.280 She thinks murder is funny.

01:07:28.660 She thinks it's grand.

01:07:29.660 She teaches our Republican children.

01:07:31.080 Like I, I'm sorry.

01:07:33.020 Again, I don't want her to be physically harmed, but I definitely want her to lose her position 1.00

01:07:36.920 of trust over children because that's what she deserves.

01:07:39.980 Um, I don't, we're going to stay on it to see what the Chicago school actually does because

01:07:44.240 their statement thus far has only suggested they're worried about threatening,

01:07:49.760 emails she's gotten.

01:07:52.500 Like they're not worried about her at all.

01:07:54.980 They're worried about people sending, I guess, nasty emails to her, which you shouldn't do

01:08:01.340 not threaten Lucy, but definitely go March with a placard saying she should be fired.

01:08:06.060 That's totally fair games game.

01:08:07.960 She seems to love protests, by the way.

01:08:09.600 Why don't, why don't we do that?

01:08:11.300 Since she totally supports protests and seems to believe in quote consequence culture, which

01:08:16.800 means she should be fired. 1.00

01:08:20.480 It's important to highlight what you just did there, Megan, which was very easily dismissed

01:08:25.040 the idea of violence.

01:08:26.540 No interest in it whatsoever.

01:08:28.440 You know, this is very easy for us to do because we're human beings and we care about

01:08:32.060 other human beings.

01:08:32.860 Uh, you know, I, I remember back in the, uh, the Charlottesville situation years ago, there

01:08:37.640 was a guy who went to the Charlottesville rally, which by the way, it was a rally that

01:08:41.660 has nothing to do with anything that I believe.

01:08:44.080 I bet it was a, so they kept claiming it was this right wing rally.

01:08:47.280 I had nothing to do with what I believe.

01:08:48.940 Uh, but there was a guy there who expressed some like white supremacist type thoughts and

01:08:53.860 the left went through all the footage, found him eventually on a digitally on Facebook or

01:08:59.460 something like that and were able to get him fired from the hot dog stand he worked at.

01:09:04.300 He worked at a hot dog stand and was, they were able to get him fired from that.

01:09:08.520 And like, as you point out, like if she worked at a hot dog stand, I don't think I would have

01:09:12.820 all that much passion about whether, you know, I wouldn't, I would not be calling for her

01:09:16.660 to be fired.

01:09:17.620 No, but man, you know, Megan, it does seem to be teachers an awful lot.

01:09:22.920 It does seem to come back to this one profession really regularly when you're talking about

01:09:29.820 these psychotic views.

01:09:32.120 And I, you know, this is why I am really, you know, super pro school choice.

01:09:38.100 I think parents should have choices and they should not have to pay double in taxes plus

01:09:42.260 tuition to send their kid to a school that has some sanity to it.

01:09:45.700 I think it's a really, really important development that's happened since COVID and thank God it has.

01:09:49.820 But like, this is really common.

01:09:53.240 What about this job attracts the most, the strangest people out there that are saying these

01:10:00.400 violent things?

01:10:00.900 And I think it goes back to what you're talking about when it comes to arguing and kind of

01:10:05.820 honing your skills in a rhetorical sense.

01:10:08.460 You know, when you're talking to elementary schools, it's easy to win those arguments.

01:10:12.300 You know, it's, it's, if you want to implement your philosophy on a bunch of people who are vulnerable

01:10:16.760 to it, you know, going to elementary school is probably a good place to do it.

01:10:20.520 That is something that we really have to look out for as a civilization, because it's hard to

01:10:25.500 survive that if you poison children's brains with this nonsense for long enough.

01:10:30.140 It's so dark, so dark.

01:10:32.940 And listen, while Chicago may be heavily Democratic, Illinois still got Republicans in it.

01:10:36.720 And so I really hope that the teachers and or the parents, administrators who are at that

01:10:41.920 school, who at least have some empathy in their hearts for Republicans and what they're

01:10:46.680 going through now, the loss of Charlie and the fear for their own lives and the empathy

01:10:50.380 they feel for Charlie's widow and family, will speak up about this person and say, this is

01:10:55.180 about decency.

01:10:56.200 It's about human decency.

01:10:58.780 It's, it's not, it's not about free speech.

01:11:00.740 It's not about politics.

01:11:01.880 It's about being a human in the face of a national tragedy.

01:11:06.400 Okay.

01:11:06.900 I want to keep going.

01:11:08.100 The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has handed Trump a major victory when it comes to Portland

01:11:14.720 National Guard troops.

01:11:16.840 It's another show we covered on AM Update, which people should be listening to.

01:11:20.220 And it's amazing because the Ninth Circuit, I didn't actually realize how far to the middle

01:11:26.320 the Ninth Circuit has been pulled, Stu, because it used to be hard left.

01:11:31.940 You would know if any case went up to the Ninth Circuit, a Republican president would lose.

01:11:36.760 It was dominated by leftists, but no longer.

01:11:39.680 Now there are 16 Democrat appointed judges and 13 Republican appointed judges.

01:11:45.720 Trump had 10 seats to fill during 1.0 on the Ninth Circuit.

01:11:50.680 And so anyway, now it's almost even.

01:11:52.800 So if you're going to draw, you know, the way they do it is you draw a three judge panel

01:11:55.940 when your case goes up an appeal from one of the district courts in that region, which

01:11:59.040 is like Seattle, parts of California.

01:12:01.580 And so the odds are decent that you might get a fair panel, even if your name is Donald

01:12:05.820 Trump.

01:12:06.160 And that's what happened.

01:12:07.400 He got two Trump appointed judges and he got one Democrat appointed judge.

01:12:11.900 And the two Trump appointed judges found in his favor saying he does have the power

01:12:15.720 to send the National Guard in there to protect ICE troops, ICE troops as they are doing

01:12:19.620 their job.

01:12:20.400 And so it's back on his efforts to support ICE in doing their job to clean up Joe Biden's

01:12:27.280 mess.

01:12:28.260 Now, of course, first of all, the Democrats, sorry, the well, I repeat myself, but it is

01:12:32.720 Portland and the state of Oregon who are suing Trump and they are trying to stop it.

01:12:36.720 So they are now asking for a full an en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit to review, which

01:12:41.660 would be 10 judges.

01:12:43.000 It's not actually the full circuit, but the basically most of the circuit would sit and take

01:12:46.820 another crack at it.

01:12:47.620 That could, sorry, 11, that could happen, 11 judges, or they could deny that and it could

01:12:52.320 go up right up to SCOTUS where, you know, we'll see what the Supreme Court says about

01:12:55.920 this.

01:12:56.960 In any event, right now he's gotten a legal victory.

01:12:59.940 And the left that's telling us there's no there there in Portland.

01:13:03.160 It's fine.

01:13:03.860 We don't need additional law enforcement.

01:13:05.840 Everything's under control.

01:13:06.760 is really having to struggle to explain scenes like this one, which was captured by Nick Sorter

01:13:13.820 on scene in Portland last night.

01:13:16.980 We are looking for the listening audience at what looks like pure chaos.

01:13:20.900 It's smoke bombs everywhere.

01:13:22.420 You can see cops that have gas masks on helmets with night vision goggles and lights, lighted

01:13:31.400 helmets so they can see what the hell they're doing.

01:13:32.980 Trying to hold the line against the protesters.

01:13:35.840 I mean, it looks like something out of like Gaza. 0.88

01:13:39.040 I mean, I don't know what I'm seeing here, but I'm seeing chaos.

01:13:42.540 And look, that's the problem is that the Democrats create those scenes.

01:13:47.220 Then the Republicans, Trump tries to clean them up.

01:13:49.760 Then the Democrats say, there's no problem here.

01:13:51.600 Why are you sending the troops?

01:13:52.760 And they go out and they film like a quiet moment being like, there's nothing going on.

01:13:56.060 But God bless people like Nick Sorter who are going there to show us, this is why.

01:14:00.360 This is why.

01:14:01.200 There are bounties on ICE officers' heads.

01:14:03.100 They do this to the officers every night.

01:14:05.240 They protest the building.

01:14:06.440 You're not even safe when you're in there.

01:14:07.560 At some venues, as we know, down in Dallas, they're shooting at ICE officers, actually trying

01:14:11.400 to kill them.

01:14:12.500 So Trump needed this win, and so does the country.

01:14:14.780 Yeah, and we know one of the parts of the strategy is to be so violent to the reporters

01:14:20.860 that do go to cover it.

01:14:21.820 And we've seen Andy Ngo and beaten, you know, and have real physical consequences from this.

01:14:27.240 And it's happened to many of the people who have tried to cover these incidents.

01:14:30.720 It's funny, one of the central arguments made in defense of not sending the troops to

01:14:36.640 Portland was, well, there was an issue back in June, but now it's over.

01:14:41.120 And now, so it doesn't make any sense to send the people there to actually, you know, protect

01:14:48.380 these employees.

01:14:49.740 And then we see this, of course, last night, which is, it's just, you can't make it up.

01:14:56.100 First of all, I remember the Ninth Circuit being this leftist.

01:14:58.900 It used to be the joke that we would make.

01:15:00.440 Whenever we go to the Ninth Circuit, you'd know it was lost.

01:15:03.700 It was a lost cause every single time.

01:15:05.760 And that's a undersold part of Trump won that we should all appreciate.

01:15:10.720 You know, we all remember the Supreme Court changes that were vitally important, but what

01:15:15.840 he did in the lower levels of the courts really were massively important to the country.

01:15:21.900 It's also why we need eight years of J.D. 0.97

01:15:24.520 Vance on the back of this term, but keep going.

01:15:27.100 This would be, it would be very, very impressive what he would do in that eight years.

01:15:31.500 And the other thing about this too is at the end of the day, this isn't the court or the

01:15:36.360 president doing this.

01:15:37.700 This is Congress.

01:15:39.260 Congress gave the president this power.

01:15:42.020 And Congress does a lot of things when they give the power to the president.

01:15:45.720 I oftentimes disagree with what they do there.

01:15:48.480 I'm not a fan of, I'm not a big tariff guy.

01:15:51.060 I don't like the fact that they gave a lot of power to the president to do that, but they

01:15:54.580 did.

01:15:55.500 And it's Congress's role.

01:15:57.160 If they want to withdraw this power from the president, they could do that.

01:16:00.600 Now he has other pathways to doing some of these things anyway, but this was specifically

01:16:06.440 designed for a reason.

01:16:07.720 And it was given to the president at his discretion, largely to be able, his wide berth as to why

01:16:13.720 he believes the threat is there.

01:16:15.300 And, you know, the footage you show from last night is evidence of this.

01:16:20.900 If you have to go to a court and say, hey, well, we believe there's a current emergency

01:16:25.180 and they say, well, actually we think that emergency expired two weeks ago.

01:16:28.620 You're taking the power away from the president, which is where Congress put it.

01:16:31.980 Well, and the courts, by the way, in listening to that, because we heard the oral argument

01:16:35.460 before the Ninth Circuit, the courts were like, okay, so we're supposed to, as a court, overrule

01:16:40.620 the president who says, no, it's an ongoing danger.

01:16:43.500 It could flare back up at any point.

01:16:45.480 We're supposed to be the arbiters of that?

01:16:47.980 Right.

01:16:48.500 No, that's not what, that's not the power that they were given.

01:16:51.040 And also we found out that, yes, it can flare up.

01:16:53.920 It just flared up right after all of this happened.

01:16:56.640 It's flaring.

01:16:58.120 You know, I love this, this standard as well.

01:17:00.360 Like forget all the legal stuff and all the Congress and all that.

01:17:03.360 Think of yourself as an employee who works in that building.

01:17:06.600 What is your standard of safety?

01:17:08.600 Is your standard of safety?

01:17:09.700 Well, I have to wait until I get abused for a few weeks before they help me.

01:17:14.500 Do I get to get to my car tonight or is, do I have to wait and get things thrown at me

01:17:19.060 or maybe shot at me for multiple weeks before someone comes to my assistance?

01:17:24.560 Or somebody rams me with their car or blocks me in who's armed.

01:17:28.540 Like how, how far does it have to go?

01:17:30.280 Cause we've seen that in city after city and it's all at ICE agents.

01:17:35.180 It's like, I don't even really care that much what's happening outside of Portland,

01:17:37.880 but what's happening outside of Portland is bad as we just showed you.

01:17:40.300 But like they're allowed to take into consideration what is happening at Portland in places like Dallas,

01:17:44.980 where we've seen this kind of behavior.

01:17:47.200 And across the country, we're seeing ICE officers targeted.

01:17:51.020 Um, I think the basic argument that they're making in the ninth circuit, uh, in California, you know,

01:17:59.820 in all of these cases where they're, they're going in against Trump can be summed up by that lady giving the interview to the female reporter. 0.70

01:18:06.340 Him is horrible.

01:18:07.400 That's really what it is.

01:18:09.480 That's it.

01:18:10.360 They're not that smart.

01:18:12.140 They just have a serious case of TDS and there, it all boils down to him is horrible.

01:18:17.780 That's what we're seeing, Stu.

01:18:19.440 Yeah.

01:18:19.920 And for people so concerned with pronouns, you'd think they'd know it's not him is horrible.

01:18:24.320 That's not how the language works.

01:18:26.760 You're right.

01:18:27.700 All right, wait, I want to get to one other thing,

01:18:29.000 which is there are rumors that the government shutdown could end sometime this week.

01:18:33.900 Why is it ending?

01:18:35.520 I will show you Harry Enten over on CNN yesterday.

01:18:40.540 Sot 16.

01:18:42.240 We're talking 20 days into it in 2018 slash 2019.

01:18:46.460 Donald Trump's net approval rating was already falling.

01:18:49.220 The shutdown was eating into his popular sport.

01:18:51.580 It was down three points already at this particular point and would fall considerably more.

01:18:56.160 It was very much on the decline.

01:18:57.900 You come over to this side of the screen.

01:18:59.780 This shutdown hasn't eaten into Donald Trump's support at all.

01:19:02.580 His net approval rating.

01:19:03.900 Is actually up a point in terms of his popular support.

01:19:08.900 So the bottom line is this.

01:19:10.220 The first shutdown during Trump's first term, 2018, 2019, was hurting Donald Trump.

01:19:14.760 This one is not hurting him at all.

01:19:16.680 It comes down to the blame game, a game I loved to play when I was younger.

01:19:19.980 Blame Trump for the shutdown a great deal.

01:19:22.420 In 2018 slash 2019, 61% more than three in five Americans blame Trump a great deal for that particular shutdown.

01:19:29.660 You come over to this side of the screen.

01:19:31.340 Look at this.

01:19:31.940 It's a different world.

01:19:33.440 It's a different world.

01:19:34.460 48% of Americans blame Trump a great deal for this particular shutdown.

01:19:38.160 And there it is.

01:19:40.680 That is why they now believe this thing could end as early as this Friday because the Democrats are losing and the sombrero memes worked and the American public is blaming them, not Trump, for what we're going through here.

01:19:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it's I think there's a real argument to be made for that.

01:19:59.300 I'm a I like Harry Anton.

01:20:02.140 He's like the one guy on CNN.

01:20:03.500 I actually like I'm entertained by and he has, I think, pretty solid analysis.

01:20:06.760 He's not some big conservative or anything.

01:20:08.600 He's just a guy trying to actually give you the data.

01:20:10.720 And I like that.

01:20:11.920 They should try that approach on some of their other programming as well, as well as being entertaining.

01:20:16.340 They should try that as well.

01:20:18.300 But I it's interesting to think because I was thinking about this a little bit.

01:20:24.120 But we have a this health care situation they've been blathering on about.

01:20:29.080 And, of course, this is their own program.

01:20:32.200 Obamacare was theirs. 0.60

01:20:33.340 They passed it.

01:20:34.100 They said it was going to be the solutions.

01:20:35.480 They called it the Affordable Care Act.

01:20:37.440 And what we're talking about going back to in this long term shutdown debate is essentially Obamacare has passed.

01:20:44.080 Right.

01:20:44.300 They passed it and then they added on a bunch of covid subsidies on top of that.

01:20:48.080 Their complaint is we're not allowing the pandemic era stuff to continue.

01:20:53.280 OK, and as I as I think about this, we are a few a couple of weeks away from the deadline of when people are going to start to see these increases in prices.

01:21:04.700 Right.

01:21:05.060 They're going to see these bigger bills on their health care. 1.00

01:21:07.460 And I my my belief is and I'm sort of testing the strategy in my head.

01:21:12.660 But I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, Megan, because I think there's part of the Democrats that are OK waiting this out because they think they're going to get a more negative reaction when people start seeing those higher bills.

01:21:23.120 And I think they believe it's going to create pressure on Republicans to fold.

01:21:27.700 Now, I don't think Donald Trump is going to fold, but I do think there are people on the Republican side who are going to say, wait a minute, we can't go through this.

01:21:36.680 I'm worried about these polls going.

01:21:38.360 People are giving us negative attention.

01:21:39.580 We have to fold on all of this health care stuff.

01:21:42.280 I hope that's not the outcome to this.

01:21:45.160 And I do hope because I'm not seeing the same coverage of the shutdown that I've seen of every other one I've ever covered.

01:21:52.140 I'm not seeing all the sob stories.

01:21:53.780 I'm not seeing all the single moms who've lost access to some program. 0.70

01:21:57.160 I'm not seeing any of that stuff.

01:21:59.180 It feels like the Democrats.

01:22:00.940 Yeah, it's weird.

01:22:02.160 And I don't know if it's because my kind of assumption was Democrats obviously are the ones out of power.

01:22:09.020 Usually that's the side that gets blamed.

01:22:10.900 So maybe that's why the media is holding out.

01:22:13.080 I'm concerned they're kind of just holding their fire back for this to happen in about 10 days.

01:22:19.000 And if we get there, you know the Republicans, Megan, they'll fold kind of on anything if the attention hits them the wrong way.

01:22:27.420 No, don't do that.

01:22:28.800 So it's important that we hold the line here.

01:22:30.620 I think Trump will do it.

01:22:31.620 But I do think there is a risk of some of these more, you know, shaky Republicans dropping that line.

01:22:37.780 I think that's a very good theory.

01:22:40.280 And it reminds me, my audience doesn't think that I, they don't believe me that I read the emails.

01:22:44.840 But I do read the emails.

01:22:46.060 And one of the viewers emailed about this just this past week saying, I have the same concern that they're going to wait until the prices go up.

01:22:55.240 And then they're just going to say, oh, it's all a Republican problem.

01:22:58.680 Meanwhile, these are Democrat policies.

01:23:00.560 These were Democrat increases under Obamacare.

01:23:04.120 All of it is to be blamed on the Democrats.

01:23:07.020 And I don't know.

01:23:07.920 I mean, this White House is better than most at messaging.

01:23:10.780 So I think they probably will be able to message that.

01:23:13.720 But, you know, this White House also had the chance, at least in 1.0, to do something about Obamacare.

01:23:19.440 And it didn't.

01:23:21.400 So, you know, there's plenty of blame to go around.

01:23:24.720 We'll see.

01:23:25.400 I think cutting some sort of a deal is what's good for the country.

01:23:28.180 Because we can't have these government employees just remain not getting paid.

01:23:32.160 I mean, it's just, it's a morale killer.

01:23:33.620 We can't have, you know, some of these jobs actually do matter to us.

01:23:36.660 And look, if you're going to make people do the work, you've got to pay them.

01:23:38.780 So that's the way it works.

01:23:40.160 And we always wind up caving.

01:23:41.600 I mean, I think the longest one was like 30 days and change.

01:23:44.640 And so it's going to end before that.

01:23:46.740 Maybe it will be Friday.

01:23:48.120 I'll give you the last word.

01:23:49.980 I will just say, fundamentally, we have a government that does way too much.

01:23:54.880 And the fact that we can separate our government employees into essential and non-essential employees

01:23:59.600 should give us an indication that maybe we should run a government with only essential employees. 0.97

01:24:04.120 Maybe that's a better approach long term.

01:24:06.020 That's how we run the MK show.

01:24:07.980 Yeah, exactly.

01:24:08.820 That's how every good, solid business runs itself, right?

01:24:11.900 You don't have thousands and thousands of employees that you're paying for things that aren't

01:24:15.740 essential.

01:24:16.480 That is bonkers to everybody who runs a business and everybody in the private sector.

01:24:21.040 If we adopted a little bit of that attitude, perhaps we wouldn't run into these problems

01:24:25.080 all the time.

01:24:26.160 You know, I learned how to do it at Fox.

01:24:28.800 And I will say they did it the right way, at least when I was there, which was only people

01:24:33.240 who are essential, but no one is indispensable.

01:24:36.520 No one.

01:24:36.840 And that's important to remember, too.

01:24:38.940 You know, it's like Fox News went on just fine without me, without Tucker, without Bill

01:24:42.380 O'Reilly.

01:24:43.080 You know, it'd be hard for the Megyn Kelly show to go on without Megyn Kelly. 1.00

01:24:47.160 But, you know, look, right now, Charlie's show is going on without him because people

01:24:51.120 are so drawn to his message and his team's doing a great job.

01:24:54.180 In any event, just remember that.

01:24:55.220 It's important to know in any job.

01:24:56.380 It's important to keep all of the essential staff.

01:24:58.400 But as essential as they may be, no one is irreplaceable.

01:25:02.100 Stu Bergeer, you're very close.

01:25:04.860 Very close.

01:25:05.900 We'd be very sad if you stopped coming on the MK Show.

01:25:08.380 Please never do that.

01:25:10.220 I will stay with you as long as you'll have me, Megan.

01:25:13.420 Awesome.

01:25:13.980 And we will see you in just a couple of days in Fort Worth.

01:25:17.200 Go buy your tickets, Fort Worth.

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01:25:20.560 And I can't wait to see you.

01:25:23.480 See you, Texas, this weekend.

01:25:24.900 We kick it off with you.

01:25:25.540 My wife is requiring me to ask you that she has to meet you at this show. 0.91

01:25:29.840 Of course.

01:25:31.000 Yes.

01:25:31.420 Okay.

01:25:32.060 All right.

01:25:32.440 We'll get this done.

01:25:33.080 I look forward to it.

01:25:33.420 This is exciting.

01:25:34.120 All right.

01:25:34.340 Thank you so much.

01:25:34.700 The better Bergeer.

01:25:35.880 I can't wait.

01:25:37.000 100% true.

01:25:39.380 All right.

01:25:39.920 See you Saturday.

01:25:41.200 Thank you.

01:25:42.360 All right.

01:25:42.840 Coming up, a deep dive on these horrible wind turbines.

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01:27:55.600 Now we have a special report for you that we at The Megan Kelly Show have been working on for quite some time.

01:28:00.740 It is a deep dive into the real impacts of clean, renewable energy that comes in the form of windmill farms.

01:28:08.400 It turns out these wind farms that the Biden administration pushed for are not only aesthetically ugly, but they're harming wildlife and they're toxic, especially whales along the coast of the United States, including in New Jersey, where my family and I spend our summers.

01:28:24.980 Since President Trump entered office for the second time, he's taken major action to stop these wind farms, but the fight is not over.

01:28:33.180 We've been working on this report with a special correspondent, Molly Moran.

01:28:38.940 She's a high school student from North Carolina, a sophomore who won the opportunity to work with us through a fundraiser I offered at a school here in Connecticut.

01:28:49.680 Somebody bought it for her, thinking that she might enjoy it and she's a fan of the show and she and I have gotten to know each other.

01:28:56.160 It's actually been a lot of fun working with her for these past several months.

01:28:59.840 She helped us research and help write a package for The Megan Kelly Show and brought us some answers. 0.93

01:29:06.620 And then she came on set, came up here to Connecticut and sat down with yours truly not long ago about what she learned.

01:29:13.700 Take a look here.

01:29:14.280 Another beached whale mystery.

01:29:17.760 The fourth whale death in our region since the start of the year.

01:29:21.080 Something is killing whales off the Atlantic coast.

01:29:24.500 The sight of whales washing up on our beaches is haunting enough, but now we can hear what may be driving them to their deaths.

01:29:31.980 Just listen to the underwater sounds captured in the documentary Thrown to the Wind.

01:29:37.700 Are you kidding me?

01:29:38.420 It sounds like they're, like it's only pile drives.

01:29:44.060 That's loud.

01:29:45.260 And it's 24 hours a day, so it's day and night.

01:29:48.220 For many environmentalists, that relentless high decibel sonar emitted by wind industry vessels is the smoking gun.

01:29:56.600 Proof they say that offshore wind farms are driving whales to their deaths.

01:30:00.720 I saw this captain post something, and he said, in his 20 to 25 years on the ocean, he's only seen one dead whale.

01:30:07.580 I think it was like two months ago, he saw three in the same day.

01:30:10.600 Three in the same day.

01:30:12.080 The North Atlantic right whale has been hit the hardest.

01:30:15.420 Only about 370 remain.

01:30:18.440 And in 2022, NOAA admitted the whales were suffering through an unusual mortality event worse than anyone first thought.

01:30:26.940 Thrown to the Wind exposed the memo's warnings about wind farms.

01:30:30.060 So when the turbines are spinning, it creates a turbulence on the back end of it.

01:30:34.460 The concern is that it's going to destroy the plankton, which is what the whales feed on.

01:30:39.840 Warnings from scientists that were ignored.

01:30:42.980 When the Biden administration announced sweeping protections for the Arctic Ocean to safeguard wildlife,

01:30:49.860 there wasn't even a mention of whales in the path of these wind farms.

01:30:53.660 The Megyn Kelly Show regular Michael Schellenberger executive produced the documentary.

01:30:57.980 What a scandal.

01:30:59.040 I mean, just appalling behavior by many, many people that knew better or should have known better.

01:31:08.820 It's impossible to look at these correlations and not imagine there's some connection.

01:31:12.880 So help me go.

01:31:14.040 Congratulations.

01:31:15.000 Then, a sea change in Washington.

01:31:18.080 They're ugly.

01:31:19.220 They don't work.

01:31:19.900 In January, President Trump kept the promise he made on the campaign trail, halting all new wind projects and moving to stop those already underway.

01:31:29.180 It's crazy.

01:31:30.500 They're dangerous.

01:31:31.380 You see what's happening up in the Massachusetts area with the whales, where they had two whales wash ashore in, I think, a 17-year period.

01:31:40.080 And now they had 14 this season.

01:31:43.640 The windmills are driving the whales crazy.

01:31:46.120 Just last month, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy announcing that $679 million in federal funding had been pulled from 12 offshore wind projects,

01:31:57.040 including the massive wind port at Paulsboro, a relief for locals who say the turbines would scar the horizon.

01:32:03.340 I'm pretty happy about it.

01:32:04.900 I live here year-round, and not something I wanted to look forward to when I go to the beach.

01:32:10.880 A victory for those fighting to preserve the beauty of the Jersey Shore and much of the Atlantic coast,

01:32:16.380 and for the endangered whales with no other choice but to make these waters their home.

01:32:22.640 All right, so our special correspondent for the day, Molly Moran, is with me.

01:32:26.340 You did all the research behind this piece for us.

01:32:29.060 It's so interesting, I mean, what's happening, that this is, like, truly disturbing.

01:32:32.240 What made you interested in this?

01:32:34.660 Well, the first time and only time I've ever seen a whale in person was on family vacation.

01:32:40.260 We went to Mexico a few years ago.

01:32:42.900 We saw this whale and a calf, and it kept, like, jumping in front, like, all playful and stuff.

01:32:48.980 And then, like, the mother was kind of, like, behind, like, huffing at it.

01:32:52.260 And it kind of reminded me of, like, my sister and, like, my mom and, like, how, like, similar mammals can be.

01:32:58.580 And it just was so interesting to me.

01:33:00.500 Totally.

01:33:01.080 I get it.

01:33:02.100 I've been only one whale watch in my life.

01:33:04.060 But it's, I mean, you really have a newfound appreciation for them when you see them up close, how big they are.

01:33:09.160 Of course, they're mammals.

01:33:10.300 They seem like, many of them, very loving.

01:33:13.340 Depends on the whale, I guess.

01:33:15.180 But this documentary by Schellenberger, Thrown to the Wind, like everything Schellenberger does, is really good.

01:33:21.840 What stood out to you the most in that whole thing?

01:33:24.160 The sound that the windmills are making is kind of like having a jackhammer outside your classroom.

01:33:28.480 So with humans, we can, like, switch locations.

01:33:31.080 We can communicate over text.

01:33:32.480 But with whales, they only use sound.

01:33:34.640 They completely rely on it.

01:33:36.480 So when, like, mothers and calves are communicating, they only use sound.

01:33:39.640 They can't communicate, cause them to get lost.

01:33:41.680 And it really impacts their population numbers, cause they get anxious and it can be, like, deadly.

01:33:47.900 That's so sad.

01:33:48.900 We actually have a clip from the Schellenberger documentary, Thrown to the Wind, on that.

01:33:53.340 Let's watch it.

01:33:53.820 The calf needs the mother for food.

01:33:56.600 The mother's trying to raise the calf.

01:33:58.580 So the mother will expend energy, try to find the calf, will raise the vocalization level, will look around for the calf, will swim to its last position. 0.99

01:34:07.720 All of these things have been documented.

01:34:09.880 But at some point, both the mother and the calf run out of energy.

01:34:14.580 At that point, if they're close enough to shore, maybe they beach and you find them.

01:34:19.700 If they're out here, they die and they sink.

01:34:23.080 Okay, so now what the audience does not know is that you and I have been working on this piece together for the better part of a year.

01:34:28.420 You've been doing tons of research and we wound up narrowing it down in the end to the whale issue.

01:34:32.780 But there's a lot of issues with these windmills.

01:34:35.360 Were you surprised?

01:34:36.520 Were you surprised when you found out, like, the number of things that people object to about them and the problems they're causing?

01:34:42.060 I think I was pretty surprised just cause it's causing more harm than good.

01:34:45.980 Cause it's, like, hurting the numbers of an already endangered species.

01:34:49.440 Like, the whales, they only have, like, 300 or so left of this certain population.

01:34:54.780 Yeah, we don't have them to spare.

01:34:56.140 So if Donald Trump called you up and said, I'm going to give you the magic wand for the day, Molly, what's the solution to this problem?

01:35:01.820 The whales are endangered.

01:35:03.040 The wind is not.

01:35:03.880 It is affecting the whales.

01:35:05.580 I mean, to note to what extent it would take, like, years of research.

01:35:08.580 I think for now we put a halt to using wind energy, at least in this area where it would affect whales.

01:35:15.240 Yeah, at least in the water where not only does it kill the whales, it ruins the views.

01:35:21.560 There's so many issues.

01:35:22.640 There's toxins in those blades, which are huge and really not easy to dispose of.

01:35:27.640 The list is very long.

01:35:28.860 This is actually very worthwhile.

01:35:30.780 And it's so funny because we started working on this before Trump got elected.

01:35:34.080 Yeah.

01:35:34.260 Right?

01:35:34.760 So it's like we knew this was going to be an issue, but we didn't know he was going to come in and solve it.

01:35:38.640 No, we didn't.

01:35:39.840 Sorry.

01:35:40.280 So you're from North Carolina.

01:35:42.320 Are you, have you done anything on the environment yet in school or no?

01:35:46.340 We've learned about some environmental science.

01:35:48.440 We had biology last year where we had, like, a small unit on learning about the environment.

01:35:53.480 And also all through eighth grade was environmental science.

01:35:56.900 Have they started telling you that we have to go solar and wind all the time and get rid of, yeah, oil and gas?

01:36:01.880 Yes.

01:36:02.220 Yeah.

01:36:02.620 Okay.

01:36:02.860 This is the problem with schools today.

01:36:04.260 If that comes back up, now you're going to be armed with better information.

01:36:07.440 Yes, I will.

01:36:08.340 Well, thank you.

01:36:09.120 So it's been a pleasure getting to know you and thank you for all your help with this.

01:36:12.340 Thank you.

01:36:13.040 Yeah.

01:36:13.380 If you have a desire for a career in journalism, you're off to a great start.

01:36:18.040 Thank you.

01:36:18.680 All the best, Molly.

01:36:19.420 Molly Moran, everybody.

01:36:21.500 Future star.

01:36:25.040 She did a great job. 0.95

01:36:26.860 That was great.

01:36:27.500 Great job, Molly Moran, everybody.

01:36:28.880 Can you believe sophomore in high school?

01:36:30.340 A lot of poise.

01:36:30.860 I want to dig in further on this with someone who is quite familiar with the dangers of windmill farms, and that is a hero to me, U.S. Representative Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey.

01:36:41.600 Representative Van Drew has held multiple hearings on the impact of offshore wind.

01:36:45.220 And he is a fierce warrior against this nonsense.

01:36:48.700 He worked to put an end to these future projects with President Trump.

01:36:52.660 Congressman, welcome to the show.

01:36:54.760 Oh, it's great to be with you, Megan.

01:36:56.160 Thanks for having me on.

01:36:57.940 It's a pleasure to meet you.

01:36:59.620 You have been like a dog with a bone trying to prevent this nonsense.

01:37:03.860 And you're winning.

01:37:05.340 It's so great to get a win.

01:37:07.240 And before we get to the winning, can you just, can you elaborate on some of the downsides of these massive wind farms?

01:37:15.500 Megan, there are so many.

01:37:16.880 You know, I've been around for a few years.

01:37:18.620 I was a state senator, state assemblyman.

01:37:20.960 I've seen a lot of projects.

01:37:23.040 I don't think I've ever seen one project that was so bad in so many ways.

01:37:28.260 And initially, many of us were open to it.

01:37:30.560 Oh, we thought of bucolic windmills.

01:37:32.600 These aren't windmills.

01:37:33.800 They're wind, industrial wind turbines.

01:37:37.280 They use lubricants that are dangerous in the water.

01:37:39.960 They are very expensive to run.

01:37:42.380 And your utility bills would go up.

01:37:44.300 Even those that advocate for them will say utility bills would go up.

01:37:48.180 And they've gone up enough already two or three times as much as they are already.

01:37:52.460 Bad for the fishermen. 0.60

01:37:53.600 That's how I got involved when I spoke to a lot of the fishing industry, much of which is in my district.

01:37:58.760 They knew what it was going to do.

01:38:00.520 They asked for help.

01:38:01.460 And, of course, we got involved.

01:38:03.320 They are bad for tourism.

01:38:05.420 They are bad for the environment, national security.

01:38:09.620 They are a danger to radar because they're 1,000 feet tall with red lights on top of it.

01:38:14.780 The list goes on and on.

01:38:16.260 And most of all, when we are energy rich and we can be independent and don't need to depend upon anybody, we should be exporting energy.

01:38:25.120 Rather than do that, this administration, as it always did with everything American, reduced it and was going to make us rely upon foreign companies to supply our energy.

01:38:36.920 That would be very expensive.

01:38:38.620 I could go on and on, Megan.

01:38:40.320 Unbelievable.

01:38:40.840 The left wants to paint itself as the pro-environment group.

01:38:44.960 But the truth is, these things are terrible for the environment.

01:38:49.080 The blades are like the span of an airplane from wing to wing.

01:38:54.540 They're huge, and they're on each one of these wind turbines.

01:38:58.260 And on top of that, they're full of toxins, which we have no idea what to do with when these things break or are retired.

01:39:07.060 In Nantucket, some of them broke, got in the water.

01:39:09.880 They had to close the beaches down.

01:39:11.620 They're fiberglass.

01:39:12.880 They're not recyclable.

01:39:14.600 After 15 years, these things are done.

01:39:16.600 And you know what their answer is?

01:39:17.820 They're just going to cut them down towards the base, but they're going to leave the structure in there.

01:39:22.000 They don't even know what to do with the blades.

01:39:24.280 They're dangerous.

01:39:25.000 And we have in my office, one of the things when we had one of our hearings, we brought somebody in from Nantucket, and the display shows the shattered wind turbine blade.

01:39:34.500 And it says, do not touch because it's dangerous.

01:39:36.580 It'll get in your skin.

01:39:38.100 I mean, if you're putting that out in our beautiful, pristine ocean, a gift from God, and you're actually doing that, it is just unbelievable.

01:39:45.720 It is the height of hypocrisy.

01:39:48.480 And you know what it's about, Megan?

01:39:49.760 It was billions upon billions of dollars for rich companies to make even more money.

01:39:56.200 But it was so wrong for America.

01:39:59.140 Again, when we have the energy, better energy than this would ever produce, why in God's name would we do that?

01:40:05.560 Europe, they don't have the sources of energy.

01:40:07.860 They tried it, and it's not even working there.

01:40:09.880 But I get it a little tiny bit.

01:40:12.020 And by the way, the whales, they were what saved us.

01:40:15.540 I was a voice out in the wilderness in the very beginning, to be honest with you.

01:40:19.280 President Trump, who is more than just my president, he is also my friend.

01:40:23.000 I got to know him.

01:40:24.020 It's a whole different story how we got to know each other when seven years ago I changed parties and became a Republican.

01:40:29.820 I was always a conservative.

01:40:31.280 But we talked about this, and he said, Jeff, when I get in office, we're going to do something.

01:40:36.180 It was the first day with his executive orders that he did this and put a halt to it.

01:40:41.820 And I'm proud to say, Megan, some people don't know our office wrote a good piece of the executive order.

01:40:47.720 That is something I forever will be grateful and forever will be proud as well.

01:40:52.660 He gave you a huge shout out on Truth Social, giving you all the credit.

01:40:56.820 And you wound up helping not just New Jersey, because Joe Biden had laid the foundation for these monstrosities to start appearing all over the United States.

01:41:06.840 He had massive goals of spreading them across the United States.

01:41:11.380 Trump shut it all down.

01:41:13.820 Millions of acres.

01:41:14.940 We're not talking 100 acres, 1,000 acres.

01:41:17.660 They were designating millions of acres to be acceptable and approved for wind turbines.

01:41:23.600 We've already turned that around.

01:41:24.700 That's done.

01:41:25.540 That's been revoked.

01:41:26.500 Now we've got to revoke the permits, and we've got to revoke the leases.

01:41:30.740 And we're going to do it based upon the science that Doug Burgum is going to find the Secretary of Interior.

01:41:37.080 We've worked with them as well.

01:41:38.960 And once they dig in, and the more that people hear about it, you know, when this started, when I very first got involved, they were probably about 75 percent popular.

01:41:47.500 They're well under 50 now in the state of New Jersey.

01:41:50.700 And that's where the PR campaigns, they work. 0.79

01:41:53.400 Now, stand by.

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01:43:19.440 I think windmills are really disruptive.

01:43:25.600 When you talk about the environment, they kill the birds.

01:43:28.500 You want to see a bird cemetery?

01:43:30.040 Go under a windmill someday that hasn't been cleaned out with all the bird carcasses.

01:43:36.360 It's like massive amounts of birds.

01:43:38.480 Well, they're also a massive eyesore.

01:43:40.120 Off the coast of New Jersey, they want to build.

01:43:42.320 The people are going crazy not to build them.

01:43:45.840 But where you have them, the whales are washing up on shore.

01:43:48.740 So in 50 years, they had one whale come ashore.

01:43:52.240 Now they had like 18 come in the last year.

01:43:55.220 What is happening with the whales?

01:43:57.380 I've read about this.

01:43:58.280 Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy.

01:44:00.340 You know, it's a vibration because you have those.

01:44:02.220 You know, those things are 50-story buildings, some of them.

01:44:05.000 Right, and they're super sensitive to vibrations and sounds.

01:44:07.920 You know, the wind is rushing.

01:44:09.660 The things are blowing.

01:44:10.620 It's a vibration, and it makes noise.

01:44:13.540 You know what it is?

01:44:14.280 I want to be a whale psychiatrist.

01:44:16.080 It drives the whales freaking crazy.

01:44:20.680 President Trump was mocked for that by the left.

01:44:23.220 It was the interview he gave to Joe Rogan right before the last election.

01:44:26.180 But he was right.

01:44:27.560 And he's been fighting this battle along with our guest, Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, and finally winning.

01:44:33.640 It was amazing that on day one of his presidency, he signed this executive order.

01:44:37.980 Clearly, this was important to him.

01:44:39.360 And I'll tell you, just from where we go down in the Jersey Shore on the summers, the people really are very, very worked up over this.

01:44:49.440 Yes, because of the wildlife.

01:44:50.660 But also, it's not a small matter to think of the entire New Jersey coastline, which is a jewel on the East Coast.

01:44:59.020 It's absolutely stunning to have virtually the entire thing marred with these ugly monstrosities that are very, very close to shore.

01:45:10.320 They're so close, you cannot possibly miss them.

01:45:12.600 There won't be virtually any stretch of beach that isn't looking at these huge windmills turning and turning.

01:45:18.180 As you point out, I've been to Amsterdam that has the beautiful, cute, little, quaint windmills.

01:45:24.440 These are nothing of the sort.

01:45:25.700 You point out the size of these things.

01:45:27.500 They're up to 1.5 times the height of the Washington Monument.

01:45:33.880 The life expectancy, 20 to 25 years.

01:45:36.620 You're stuck looking at these awful things as they're killing birds and whales all around you.

01:45:42.000 Who the hell would want this?

01:45:44.600 It's crazy.

01:45:45.420 When they really understood it, nobody wanted it.

01:45:48.140 They were sold to build the goods.

01:45:50.000 One of the big companies that came in from Denmark, Orsted, came in, and they were giving everybody money.

01:45:55.480 We'll let you build this.

01:45:56.460 We'll do that.

01:45:57.100 Trying to give money to local governments.

01:45:59.380 But once people found out what was going on and how they weren't telling the truth, it changed the tune.

01:46:05.380 We had an acoustics expert that's a bona fide acoustics expert in one of the hearings that I held.

01:46:11.100 And it was great because I had members of Congress come to my district to hear what people were saying about these.

01:46:17.740 But this acoustics expert found that what the government was allowing was unbelievable.

01:46:24.420 They were exceeding all noise limits that would ever be allowed in the ocean.

01:46:28.900 But they didn't care because it was wind turbines.

01:46:31.420 My God, if that had been the oil or gas industry, they would have gone crazy.

01:46:35.340 And they should have.

01:46:36.200 It shouldn't be allowed.

01:46:37.400 And that was what was getting the whales.

01:46:39.200 It wasn't just an accident.

01:46:41.180 And by the way, the whales, when they did the autopsies, they said, we had autopsies done, and there's nothing there.

01:46:46.840 Nothing to worry about.

01:46:48.200 Guess who did the autopsies?

01:46:49.520 People that actually worked for the companies that were doing the windmills.

01:46:53.860 I mean, come on.

01:46:55.200 It was so disingenuous.

01:46:56.700 It was so hypocritical.

01:46:58.380 It was disgusting.

01:46:59.520 It's a bad chapter in American history.

01:47:01.900 And Megan, like you, I was truly, sincerely frightened for the Jersey Shore and for a beautiful, pristine coast, this amazing area we have.

01:47:11.780 And these people didn't care.

01:47:13.320 It was just about the money.

01:47:14.880 And by the way, your tax dollars, both at the federal level and at the state level in New Jersey, subsidized them to the tune of billions and billions of dollars.

01:47:25.280 And they still had a hard time making a go of it.

01:47:28.420 That's how inefficient they were.

01:47:30.280 That's the key.

01:47:31.580 No one wants this kind of energy.

01:47:33.460 It gets forced on them by Democrat elected politicians who then subsidize it and then force it on the communities.

01:47:39.980 So you're both paying for it and you're getting it against your will.

01:47:43.560 It's a bad combo.

01:47:44.660 But can you walk me through what happened in New Jersey?

01:47:47.100 Because we saw the executive order with Trump.

01:47:49.520 We all cheered.

01:47:50.560 But then it seemed like it was only going to apply to wind farms where the permitting process was still underway.

01:47:59.080 And we were worried in New Jersey because the permitting process we thought had already gone through.

01:48:04.540 It was like a late minute.

01:48:05.400 Joe Biden was like on his way out with his auto pen was like approved.

01:48:09.760 But somehow President Trump managed to stop it anyway.

01:48:12.940 How did that happen?

01:48:14.660 Well, all of it gets a review now.

01:48:18.020 So and some of this is in the courts and we have private folks selling to by the by the suing rather.

01:48:23.040 We also got over a million dollars in raised funds for private lawsuits to slow them down.

01:48:29.400 It's such an inefficient, bad industry that when time is their enemy, when you slow them down, they're bleeding money.

01:48:36.960 They're bleeding money and they want more.

01:48:38.300 And I didn't want to skip the one thing just to show you how bad they were.

01:48:42.060 In New Jersey, the democratically controlled legislature and the governor were going to give a subsidy back to the ratepayer because the rates would go up so much more due to these wind turbines to supposedly help them out a little bit.

01:48:57.680 Guess what happened?

01:48:59.000 They were so inefficient that they passed a special law to take the subsidy for the average ratepayer away and to give that to the companies as well.

01:49:08.700 And they did.

01:49:09.480 And the governor signed it.

01:49:10.540 You couldn't make this stuff up.

01:49:11.820 It was unbelievable.

01:49:12.680 So it's been all so terrible.

01:49:15.440 So now everything's on hold.

01:49:17.760 Now the Secretary of Interior, Doug Bergen, is going to look at all this, review it all.

01:49:24.040 And I think what I believe that and I speak to him on a regular basis just to learn what's going on, is that when they find out how bad they are, and I think they know, they're first going to revoke the permits.

01:49:36.320 Those will be revoked.

01:49:37.360 Once the permits are revoked, they then will ultimately revoke the leases.

01:49:42.280 Guess what?

01:49:42.780 We've got a great president for a certain number of years.

01:49:45.700 We've got to put a stake in the heart of this Dracula monstrosity of a project, and we've got to end it for good.

01:49:53.940 And that's what we're going to work on.

01:49:55.480 And the president is totally committed to it.

01:49:58.080 I'm doing everything that I can to help others are as well.

01:50:01.740 This is a big deal.

01:50:03.320 This really is about America.

01:50:05.020 You know, when you say from sea to shining sea, man, I want those seas to still shine and to still be beautiful.

01:50:12.200 Yeah, I mean, of all things to ruin, America has these amazing coastlines up and down the East Coast, up and down the West, and, you know, on some of the most beautiful ocean territory that there is.

01:50:25.160 And so why would you ruin them with this disgusting, toxic, killer form of energy that doesn't work and is too expensive?

01:50:34.160 It's crazy.

01:50:35.080 It's a leftist dream that comes at a very, very high cost.

01:50:38.700 So is it possible then, because if it stays in abeyance throughout the Trump administration, that's four years where they didn't make any progress.

01:50:48.100 And so what happened, like, as a practical matter, like, like you mentioned, the one that was trying to come to New Jersey, what was it?

01:50:55.700 Orstar.

01:50:56.640 Yeah.

01:50:57.220 Okay.

01:50:57.560 Orstar.

01:50:58.000 As a practical matter, could they wait that long?

01:51:01.940 Like, they can't possibly be in a business that is on during a Biden administration, off during the Trump administration, then back on during a Democratic administration.

01:51:12.880 Or do you think this is, these four years will effectively kill it?

01:51:16.960 I think it'll effectively kill it, especially if we revoke the permits and the leases, even without the, Megan, you make a wonderful point, and it's a good point, that literally they are, as I said before, bleeding money.

01:51:29.920 So for them to stay for years and expend all the money that they are, it just isn't worth it.

01:51:36.100 So pretty much, even if we didn't revoke the leases and permits, and I think that we will, they are going to be so far behind the eight ball financially, that it really, truly hurts them.

01:51:48.060 And thank God.

01:51:49.360 You know, I didn't even talk about the fishing industry much.

01:51:52.280 Off our coast, the East Coast, we have some of the greatest sustainable fisheries in the world.

01:51:57.780 And another way that the left was diminishing America, not only were we going to rely on other countries for energy, it would have diminished our fisheries a great deal.

01:52:09.260 We're going to rely on them for our food. 0.95

01:52:11.480 We already see the Chinese buying farms.

01:52:13.880 Now we're going to have to get all our fish and fish products from other countries because we were going to hurt our fish.

01:52:18.720 I mean, you couldn't make this stuff up.

01:52:20.740 It seems, it's so perverse, it's so weird, but it seems everything they do.

01:52:25.260 And I don't want to get into other subjects, but I really believe this.

01:52:28.480 The left, ultra left especially, seems to want to diminish America so that we are so much less than we were and so much less than we can be.

01:52:39.680 It's really hurtful.

01:52:41.240 So we've got to be tough.

01:52:42.620 We've got to fight hard and we've got to keep going at it with this and not give an inch.

01:52:47.540 This is a really, really bad in every level and in every way you could possibly think about it.

01:52:55.260 Well, listen, I thank you on behalf of my community and I'm sure many others across the United States for leading the way on this battle.

01:53:02.220 Too many people were not paying attention to it and there are so many downsides and no upsides.

01:53:07.580 It's such a clear, it's just obvious what the outcome should be.

01:53:10.860 So God bless you, Congressman.

01:53:12.160 Thanks for coming on.

01:53:13.140 All the best to you.

01:53:14.720 Right back to you, Megan.

01:53:16.000 Thank you for the work you're doing, bringing the truth to people.

01:53:18.920 We really appreciate you a lot.

01:53:20.360 You let us know if you need us at all.

01:53:22.420 We're here.

01:53:23.080 Thank you.

01:53:23.580 All the best, sir.

01:53:25.340 Wow.

01:53:25.840 Thank God for guys like him.

01:53:27.220 I mean, truly, it takes a lot of effort.

01:53:29.060 You've got to dig in.

01:53:29.900 You've got to become an expert matter in it.

01:53:31.720 You've got to fight the power.

01:53:33.740 When Joe Biden was in there, he wasn't able to make much progress, but he was fighting.

01:53:38.320 And then, like, the seas parted and the sky cleared up and President Trump was elected and made this a priority from day one.

01:53:47.080 This is yet another great thing about having Donald Trump as our 47th president.

01:53:51.940 Thank you for listening.

01:53:53.040 Thanks for watching.

01:53:53.840 And we will see you again tomorrow.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 21, 2025

Karine Jean-Pierre Undermines Her Entire Book, Ghouls at ＂No Kings,＂ and Wind Farm Danger, with Stu Burguiere and Rep. Van Drew ｜ Ep. 1176

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